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WP/KM DD Question

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Post# 91714-10/32/2005-01:12 ||| knitwits1975 (Seattle, Wa)

I'm in no position where I can purchase this and go get it, but I'm curious about this particular machine. Is this one of the first Direct WP/KM Washers, and is this one that did not have the neutral drain? I always thought Kenmores moved the timers to the sides after the DD design commenced. It's not of much importance, I was just curious because I remember My Mother in 1986 looking at a machine like this for our condominium in Littleton, Colorado before ultimately deciding on a Hotpoint like the one pictured below, and I'd love to have it. It would have been a great machine, but then again, So was the Hotpoint, and I'd like to have it back too.

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Post# 91715-10/32/2005-01:13 ||| knitwits1975 (Seattle, Wa)

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Post# 91716-10/32/2005-01:18 ||| knitwits1975 (Seattle, Wa)

Hotpoint, brings back old memories. We bought it and it's mating dryer on halloween of 1986 and they were good machines. In the spring of 1994, my mom sold them to one of the high school teachers and her husband just before I graduated because we had a brand new Kenmore set where we had just moved to.


Post# 91727-11/1/2005-06:04 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)

That Kenmore is one of the first DD. The outer tub protector is a dead ringer and I do consider that model a classic since it has the original black panel controls before they made the changes to the timer to the left side.

Keep it if you can!

Post# 91907-11/2/2005-07:43 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)

Anybody bidding on this?
I may want it since I'm not too far from Pa.

Post# 91909-11/2/2005-07:46 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)

I would think that quite likely is a spin-drain model Kenmore. One of the first DD machines...

Post# 92028-11/3/2005-01:03 ||| knitwits1975 (Seattle, Wa)

2 Bids on it, a total of $8.99, and looks to be in great condition. Go for it! I hope you get it and give it a great home. I saw a similar one not too far from where I live, but it is in pretty rough shape.

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Post# 92140-11/3/2005-20:28 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)

I messed up, I didn't bid ontime.
There will be another one with my name on it!

Larry

Post# 98258-12/13/2005-19:26 ||| Maytagman806s (Brighton, MI)

Old Kenmore DD

One of the dead giveaways that this is a spin-drain unit, is the balance ring on the top of the wash basket is "perforated". This was a 16# capacity machine. All neutral drain machines had a solid balance ring and were either 16# or 20# capacity. The change to the neutral drain transmission enabled Whirlpool to produce the 20# capacity machine without the problems associated with the early spin-drain machines. As many of the Whirlpool and Kenmore DD machines that I have serviced, I have seen very few of these still left in service. The 2 biggest reasons were 1) the spin clutches failed after about 5 years if you routinely overloaded the machine and the drive coupling didn't break, or 2) the nylon spin gear in the transmission would shatter in about 3 pieces and destroy the transmission if you managed to turn the timer while the machine was running. Simple logic would tell you that with declutching timer knobs(you cant turn them with the machine running) this can't be done. Well I'm here to say it can. Thats why I still have business.