Seems like it's been a while so I'll start one. Not my best work but not bad for a quiet Sunday evening.

I fried some chicken last night and my fryer comes apart and all goes in the dishwasher.

Chach - what kind of fryer is that? How much will it hold? That looks pretty big.

It holds about one of those really big jars of oil. I'm at work at the moment so I can't look at the bottle to give you the size.

It's a great fryer because it holds about 4 large pieces of chicken at one time. These are the pieces with the drumstick and thigh connected. I can't think of what they are called. LOL I fry those for 16-18 minutes. The smaller pieces like wings and drumsticks go for around 10-12 minutes. It's pretty quick. It's great for frying catfish also because the big fillets fit in their nicely.

The whole thing comes apart and all goes in the dishwasher except the heating element. You can see the basket in the top rack and the lid in the lower rack. When I bought this one they were just coming out. There are many choices available these days. I think this one is about 1500 Watts and recovers quickly between batches.

Looks like a BobLoad® to me, but it's not official until the great man gives it his blessing.

What kind of dishwasher?

Only 1500 watts of heating?!?!
How much oil does it hold? It seems so little heating to me, expecially after I got used to your 5000+ watts dryer! Lol
My (smallish) DeLonghi fryer holds only 2,2 litres of oil (diameter of 25 cm) and has a 2400 watt heater and I find that very slow in recovering!

Anyway... It seems a genuine BobLoad to me too! A shame that I unloaded my machine just before reading this! I'll post something tomorrow if I'll fill it up well (I's just 2 of us home now)

I'll have to look when I get home.

It's a Boschmore. It's Kenmore Elite made by Bosch. It's a great machine. Cleans like crazy and is very quiet.

I'm glad you added "thread" to the end of your title. Otherwise I'm sure you'd be hearing from a lot of interested parties, myself included, about something entirely different.

I suspect that once the Bobster sees your pix you'll get his blessing. I love being able to cram as much as I can into my dishwasher, and the satisfaction of seeing all of it come out sparkling clean. Nice job!

I just love the threads. Oh yeah, Ralph you most assuredly receive the BobLoad certification.

OK you guys, I need some good modern dishwasher load pics. A friend of mine is having to replace her KDI21 or KDI22 and I want to give her some examples of modern machine loads--she's as skilfull at loading her dishwasher as I am, but she rinses everything off :-(

Who is that curly haired sweetie in the first snapshot?



Lawrence/Maytagbear

One question---

Who is that curly haired sweetie in the first snapshot?

That is Joli. She is the lamp of my life (don't tell my husband I said that LOL)! Thanks for asking.

You're welcome. Joli is a cutie for sure!!

And Ralph, you started this at a perfect time. with Turkey Day next week and everyone beginning to do food prparation we gonna have some BobLoads for sure!!!

Just about ready to start my Bosch. Perhaps I can win an honorable mention. Of course very carefully loaded.

Top Rack of the Kitchen Aid

The bottom Rack.

Here are a couple for your friend.

And the Top Rack. I sure wish I could figure out how to get multiple photos in one post. How do you do that?

Miele dishwasher

bottom rack

upper

silverware rack

I selected the Intensive program with Soak option...forgive the fingerprints...

Nice loads! I love saying that!

I agree. Nice loads!! I would have bought the Miele or possibly Asko but I was afraid of service here in Arkeensaw. I went with the Boschmore because of my own experience with Bosch and I figured I could get serivce through Sears if I needed it.

I love the look of your machine and really like the flexibility. How do you like it?

My best friend has an Asko and he really loves it.

I do love my Miele. As far as service goes...Miele handles it with factory service. when my Miele washer arrived DOA...Miele sent a guy up from Massachusetts and he had the Miele van and the part I needed to get the washer up and running. Granted the washer shouldnt have needed a new motor right off the bat but he had a replacement motor ready and so far I have not had any trouble with the washer. Miele service is awesome...they were on time and the guy was very professional. He walked me thru what he was doing and I was impressed by the fact he knew what he was doing. Ever call for service and the guy has no clue??He told me that if I ever need service with any Miele product to call Miele and they will set it up and service it. they prefer that customers do that and not let anyone else work on it...they are not trained as a Miele tech would be.
Back to the dishwasher...I love its flexibility and even though the racks seem to be a tad shorter than an American dishwasher..I can put alot in it and it will all wash clean. The dishwasher is almost silent when its running. The only way to hear it run is if i put my ear to the door latch. I can hear the top arm spraying. This machine uses alternating arms meaning the top and bottom run for 30 seconds then the Middle arm for 30 seconds at a time. When it switches there is a click in the control and then it will change the action ...hard to describe until you hear it. I love it.

I'm wondering, do BobLoads only apply for dishwashers? or can they also apply to washers & dryers?

Anything you "load" is a candidate for a BobLoad!

A few Bosch loads from the time when our main DW was broken and we had to use the Bosch as a backup.

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That looks pretty nice, I think

I didn't realize you could get that much in a countertop dishwasher. That is impressive!

Yes, it takes a little getting used to but once you get it right you can fill it up and it'll clean everything in under an hour.

I have read here that the Bosch machines of current style are smaller than most others. I even went to Lowes to check and their racks seem smaller. I wonder why the person mentioned is replcaing her KitchenAid.. she wont find anything around to compare with it, and hopefully is not trying to be energy wise and pound foolish. She can load it up and everything would be cleaned and sanitized in well less than two hours! Maybe we can convince her to fix or keep it!

I'm kind of a DW fanatic, basically I like what I like. We've had the range of DWs over the years, my favorites are never mentioned here, GE. I returned 3 DWs last year till I got one I liked, a MOL GE.

Anyway, to get to my point, I find the Boschs to be OK, but a lot on the small side. I'm flipping a house and put a Bosch in, and it has 1/4 less space inside than my latest GE TT DW, plus they are a tad narrower too. It's an OK machine but I would never buy one for myself. It's quite an upscale house I'm doing and Bosch has a lot of cache, plus it was a scratch and dent deal at Lowes for $249. Couldn't pass it up.

and I am surprised to hear some of you think the Bosch holds that much less than other dishwashers. I have been a Kitchen Aid guy for many years but once they sold I think all of the good things about KA dishwashers went with the sale.

I am in my third house with a Bosch and really love them. I really don't think the smaller size affects how much I can get in one of those loads. I have tons of pictures to share if anyone is interested.

I really am sold on Bosch. The quality of the dishwasher was the reason I picked Bosch when it was time for a new Washer and Dryer. That was 5 years ago and I couldn't be happier with them.

All right, where is everyone else!!! Gee it's holiday time and lots of cooking!!

Happy Thanksgiving to all Americans! I'm sure there will be A LOT of dishes and cookwear to wash after dinner and that could make for a lot of BobLoads. Please be sure to post them.

My four year old Bosch is about 1 inch less deep than the Elux Frigidaire POS it replaced. I understand this is because standard European kitchen counters are a bit less deep than standard American counters. The bottom rack is more square than rectangular, as a result. But it doesn't seem to limit the capacity in any significant way. Plus, it cleans so much better than the Frigidaire. And, since the top rack can be removed completely and replaced with a spray head, the Bosch can fit very tall items that simply wouldn't fit in the Frigidaire. Also, I think the incorporation of the water heater into the sump area leads to a bit more vertical room in the Bosch, and its hidden location means that plastic items can be placed on the bottom rack without fear of getting melted by an exposed heating element.

I would buy another Bosch DW.

Here is a clean light Bob load of bake ware from my Kenmore Elite w/ Smart Wash.

Do you have more pics of the machine?

Sure. Here is one.

Malcolm, how old is your dishwasher? I've never seen the front of Elite racks dip down. My bottom rack is level across and my top rack, it goes up in a hill rather than down in a valley so to speak. And mine was bought last May.

It is about three years old. It cleans well but is probably one of the worst constructed machines on the market. If you look on the left, just under the top rack, you'll see a little white goop. I had to caulk the door seal in place as it would either pull out when the door was opened or slip just enough to leak.

This is the last Sears appliance I will ever own.

Wish I had bought the Bosch instead!

MRB

Here is a close up of the caulk mess.

It always gets me that Whirlpool machines are able to do any washing with all their jets but two facing inward on the lower spray arm.

Well since whirlmores are starting to show up at the end of this thread i like to share thanksgiving pics with the group.Now some peaple dont like the new design i like them, that wash arm design has been around since i beleve i saw in the early 80's and has gone threw different pump designs Malcome i agree with the arm hole design, but it really cleans well i got my friends a GU2600XTP model and it's very quit a little motor hum compared to bosch & miele and other european machines.I used the pots & pans cycle with a high temp score&sani rinse last night a really dirty load i hope bob approves i need his stamp hi bob! like to meet you someday. The machine has a sheer clean wash system & sensor wash system it really works when the fisrt pre rinse started the machine addded more water twice and drain some of the water out as it was still washing pretty cool, i hope everybody had a nice holiday here are some pics Darren k

I was starving did not eat all day!

NIce table and food

Whirlpool GU2600XTP

Washing dishes at jhon & cals part 2

The famous wash arm

Bottom very greasy and a lot of batter

top the same nasty

CLEAN. IT TOOK 1HR 46 MIN

TOP PRETTY GOOD.

Darren, oh yes sir you get a BobLoad most definitely!! I would ghave loved to see what that skillet/fry pan that's in the front looked like inside. I'm surprised it got clean being right behind that cassarole dish. I have the Kenmore Elite version of this machine. The little bit of water draining off and adding more water during the prewash is what it's supposed to do. It's part of the Automatic Filter Purge feature (AFP). As soil collects and the sensors sense the restriction on water flow and pressure on pump, the drain motor turns on and removes soiled water in the collection chamber for 5 seconds and water is added for 10 seconds. It will do this up to 4 times during the prewash. If there is food soil still being cleaned off during the main wash, the machine will purge like that up to 3 more times (yes folks, mine has been so nasty and dirty of a load a couple of times it has done that since I've had the machine since last May). It does surprise me how well it does clean. Again, you get bobLoad status. I look forward to meeting you too sometime. Glad you got to spend the holiday with John & Cal, they're great guys!!

Thanks bob that pan got clean it had gravey in it every dish and pot had enough room for water circulation, thinks for the info on the APF system i talk about them at work all the time. I forgot about the seconds when the water comes in and how long it purges, the system works very well some of the members don't like them maybe because of cycle time. i'm waiting for the Whirlpool corp to come out with a new mind blowing wash system they still can improve that very top spray system somtimes with hollow glasses some sedament still remains maybe a larger sprayarm how knows? Well i got the bob stamp and that is cool lol .There is a miele pro diswasher in super,(thread 14407) and the some store pics where i work it's really powerful machine see what u think about it. talk to you soon Darren k

Darren, When will Whirlpool come out with a mind blowing wash system you ask?
Well they had their chance but blew it when they stopped making the old style Kitchenaidsand decided to make clones out of all the machines they built.

If you look at any of the machines out there by most manufacturers, not only WP,KM and KA, you will almost always see the wash arm being hung under the upper rack and totally unprotected! I mean that there is no "CHINA GUARD" like the old Kitchenaids to prevent anything from hitting or being hit by the uppper washarm. Unless you dropped something thru the top rack, that arm would always spin and clean the dishware in the upper rack. I have a DU950 as a spare in my garage and it is very easy to block the arm from spinning. Even the tall tubs suffer the same defect. Not to mention they are pumping water to that arm through noting bigger than a 3/4" tube most of the time.How much water really gets out of those arms?

Now I realize they are all trying to make greater use of the top rack but there can be alot of improvement if all the manufacturers would revisit that older design.. Maybe better yet, go way back to Maytag's Idea with the big plates going on top and glasses on the bottom. Then it would be nearly impossible to prevent the washarms from turning.
Kitchen Aid was really the first machine that had the soil chambers in the washarm support and then WP and Maytag followed suit as well as did most of the other manufacturers. That system they had from the 21 thru 22 series cleaned better than anything out there and still didnt take 2 hours to finish.

And how many stories do we hear about the older machines doing a fantastic job on the dishes and did it from prerinse to dry in under an hour!

You can talk 'til you are blue in the face about energy efficiency but there is no savings if a machine runs for 2 hours heating water and then leaving water on the dishes if not food soil or you have to run it twice to clean the dishes.

Want a Mind blowing wash system? Easy.. put back a decent pump of at least 1/2 horsepower and design some decent washarms to deliver water throughout the tank that arent restricted by anything in the lower rack.

Everything you stated is true.

Bring back the old KA style and wash rinse and dry in under an hour with WATER!

I want to see a loaded 3 rack Maytag. In that machine, the dishes are ALMOST on the top!

In the defense of some modern machines, I still think Maytag and GE machines could be considered [hurricanes in boxes] if not, at least severe thunderstorms.
Whirlpool's current machines sound like they perform as potently as a spring shower. Frigidaire's are even worse! Barely a light drizzle.
I have a Frigidaire machine in my apartment with the 5 level Precision wash system. It's OK...it does wash all the dishes. Try to get it to scrub pots and pans? no way. At least they make up for their weak pump by alternating the spray action from top to bottom. I think Whirlpool severely needs to do that if they're not going to fill their tubs high enough to allow full press.

I think Maytags have the highest press wash pumps out there today. Look at their 1/3HP pancake motors and their pump impellers are the same as what were used in old KitchenAids (the ones that look like pool pump impellers).
Hell, Maytag must be putting alot of water through if it can handle 4 wash arms.

I agree with what Steve is saying. Their is nothing wrong with newer technology except when it goes several steps backwards. Their is nothing that will ever be made like the older KitchenAid machines. Machines that run 2 plus hours is a big step backwards. I like my GE talltub probably better than most out their but I miss my power clean whirlpool that I should have never given up. And the sad part their is really not a lack of water in this society and a machine that runs such a long time is wasting more energy. Why can't we design these machines??
Peter

I'm very happy with our 1 year old Siemens. Its lower spray arm shoots the water right through to the ceiling even if there are dishes in the bottom rack - was very impressed when I saw this.

Alex

...was, to my thinking, created because the modern biological detergents required a longer time for their components to act: particularly the oxygen bleaches.

My parents' first dishwasher was a Zanussi, which washed a load at 65degrees C, in about 70minutes. The crockery came out okay with the standard chlorine-based detergents.

However, when the biological formulations first appeared, we noticed that there was a distinct build up of tea stains in the cups, over a period of months.

Switching to the chlorine detergents, removed the stains within a couple of washes.

Even today with the longer cycles, I still find that chlorine detergents bleach better, but the biological detergents are better for starchy deposits.

Is it possible for detergents to be biological, but employ a chlorine bleach?