Archived Messages From Applianceville at www.classicappliances.com
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Post# 1-5/20/2001-16:44 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Welcome to Applianceville
MESSAGE: With this post I officially kick off the test phase of Applianceville.
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Post# 2-5/20/2001-17:20 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome to Applianceville (What's a Drift?)
MESSAGE: When you select Reply to Post button, there is this optional input box called Subject Drift. This is a simple way of adding a small amount of text to the subject without actually changing the subject. It can be used when we're going off the subject slightly, so members can quickly locate posts they are interested in.
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Post# 3-5/20/2001-17:22 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: How to post links
MESSAGE: I've include another option input box at the bottom of the Post Message and Reply to Message screens. Its called URL Link to Share. If you would like to include a link, copy and paste the address in this special input box and not only will your link be added, but the work [LINK] will be added to the Pink Table of Contents Page so members will quickly be able to find posts with links elsewhere.
LINK: http://www.maytag.com
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Post# 4-5/20/2001-19:28 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Hello Applianceville
MESSAGE: Please Log-In and Sign up. Then post and reply to as many message as you can so we can see if this thing really works!
Thanks for you help everyone.
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Post# 5-5/20/2001-19:57 ||| Eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: new website
MESSAGE: I love it Robert! Hi all, hope to see you all here in Applianceville. Lots of love from
Speed Queen Eddy
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Post# 6-5/20/2001-20:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: new website
MESSAGE: Hi Eddy, welcome to Applianceville 2. Thanks for signing up and helping with the first round of testing.
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Post# 7-5/20/2001-20:33 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: New web site
MESSAGE: I be here too y'all
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Post# 8-5/20/2001-20:33 ||| Peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome to Applianceville (Great Web Site )
MESSAGE: Robert this is real great
Thank You
Peter
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Post# 9-5/20/2001-20:36 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New web site
MESSAGE: Hi Appnut, welcome, thanks for helping test. Let me know if anything funny happens. This is just the beginning, we can grow and shape this web site as a collective group in which ever way we want.
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Post# 10-5/20/2001-20:36 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome to Applianceville (thanks)
MESSAGE: Thanks Peter, I'm glad you're here!
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Post# 11-5/20/2001-20:40 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: A suggestion
MESSAGE: Robert, I may be daft, but I don't neccessarily like having to click on each post. Any thought on having a next and/or previous post buttons?
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Post# 12-5/20/2001-20:44 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A suggestion
MESSAGE: I can certainly figure out a way to add that feature Appnut. I will put it on the to do list. Any suggestions like that is much appreciated.
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Post# 13-5/20/2001-20:59 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: I've Just added the 1960's Speed Queen Logo
MESSAGE: The 1960's Speed Queen Logo is now available for background wallpaper. To change your wallpaper, make sure your logged-in and select Edit My Profile from the Applianceville menu.
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Post# 14-5/20/2001-21:15 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: I've Just added the 1960's Speed Queen Logo
MESSAGE: I love the new website.ITS BEAUTIFUL!
jetcone
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Post# 15-5/20/2001-21:19 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: I've Just added the 1960's Speed Queen Logo (Hi Jon)
MESSAGE: Welcome to the new web site. Thanks for all your help during the initial tests.
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Post# 16-5/20/2001-21:20 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: I've Just added the 1960's Speed Queen Logo (Hi Jon)
MESSAGE: It has been sooo much fun testing the new site. Uni has done an outstanding job here.!!
jet
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Post# 17-5/20/2001-21:22 ||| Eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: I've Just added the 1960's Speed Queen Logo (thanks)
MESSAGE: Thank you Robert for including my FAVORITE wallpaper!
Eddy
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Post# 18-5/20/2001-21:23 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: I've Just added the 1960's Speed Queen Logo (thanks)
MESSAGE: Eddy don't you just love this!
Jet
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Post# 19-5/20/2001-21:26 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: Anybody ever see this 20# Westy F?L?
MESSAGE: Has anyone ever seen this machine? What kind of tub does it have?
jon
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Post# 20-5/20/2001-21:27 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Anybody ever see this 20# Westy F?L? (where is this???)
MESSAGE: You mean the washer in the picture of the day Jon?
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Post# 21-5/20/2001-21:28 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Anybody ever see this 20# Westy F?L? (where is this???)
MESSAGE: Yes Robert the picture of the day today has a odd looking Westinghouse F/L that I have never ever seen before!
jon
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Post# 22-5/20/2001-21:29 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Anybody ever see this 20# Westy F?L? (where is this???)
MESSAGE: When you press POST does it autoamtically refresh your screen?
jon
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Post# 23-5/20/2001-21:29 ||| Kc4ab (limaburg ky)
SUBJECT: I LIKE IT
MESSAGE: Nice i realy like it. I hope scott dont find me.
jeff
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Post# 24-5/20/2001-21:30 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: I LIKE IT
MESSAGE: Welcome to the new site Kc4ab, glad you found us!
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Post# 25-5/20/2001-21:30 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: I LIKE IT
MESSAGE: Kc4ab welcome to the new version of WASH_IN!
jetcone
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Post# 26-5/20/2001-21:43 ||| Eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: I've Just added the 1960's Speed Queen Logo (hi Jon)
MESSAGE: Yes, I LOVE this new website. Isn't it great? Are you planning any trips out to B.C. in the near future?
Eddy
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Post# 27-5/20/2001-21:47 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: More Wallpaper Added
MESSAGE: I've just added the RCA Whirlpool logo from 1960!
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Post# 28-5/20/2001-21:49 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: I've Just added the 1960's Speed Queen Logo (B.C)
MESSAGE: Hi Eddy! MY favorite cousins from Van. are coming out to Boston to visit me right after the convention so it won;t be this year but I am planning a trip in the next couple of years.
I would like to play with your Beatty!
Jon
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Post# 29-5/20/2001-21:49 ||| Kc4ab (limaburg ky)
SUBJECT: RE: More Wallpaper Added
MESSAGE: are you going to have your pin on for the FRIG. pride day parade ??
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Post# 30-5/20/2001-21:54 ||| Kc4ab (limaburg ky)
SUBJECT: RE: I LIKE IT
MESSAGE: Thanks i like it
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Post# 31-5/20/2001-21:55 ||| Eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: I've Just added the 1960's Speed Queen Logo (B.C)
MESSAGE: Maybe I'll be out your way then first! Whenever you're out this way, be SURE to let me know so we can hook up. You can play all you want with my Beatty's ;-) automatic and manual.
Eddy
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Post# 32-5/20/2001-21:58 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: I've Just added the 1960's Speed Queen Logo (B.C)
MESSAGE: Eddy c'mon down anytime to Boston.
jon
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Post# 33-5/20/2001-21:58 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: I've Just added the 1960's Speed Queen Logo (B.C)
MESSAGE: Are we refreshing?
jon
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Post# 34-5/20/2001-22:00 ||| Kc4ab (limaburg ky)
SUBJECT: RE: I've Just added the 1960's Speed Queen Logo (B.C)
MESSAGE: Yes this is a refhing change
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Post# 35-5/20/2001-22:24 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: More Wallpaper Added (Kenmore Logo)
MESSAGE: Now I just added the famous 1957 Kenmore logo to the wallpaper choices. This logo was used from '57 well into the 1960's.
Again to change your wallpaper after you have initially signed-up simply make sure you're logged in and select Edit My Profile.
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Post# 36-5/20/2001-22:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Now for the lovers of the Laundromat
MESSAGE: We have the 1950's Westinghouse Logo loaded!
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Post# 37-5/20/2001-24:28 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Now for the lovers of the Laundromat
MESSAGE: I love the wallpaper - very cool. When are you going to put up the Friederich, Fedders, Airtemp, Carrier, Philco logos for my room air conditioner collection?? Hee hee!
Thanks for all the hard work - this site is certainly a credit to your hard work - congratulations on getting it up and running so well!
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Post# 38-5/20/2001-24:29 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Now for the lovers of the Laundromat
MESSAGE: Where's the wallpaper? I can't see it on my screen....
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Post# 39-5/20/2001-24:30 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Now for the lovers of the Laundromat
MESSAGE: Well, the Frigidaire logo works
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Post# 40-5/20/2001-24:30 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Now for the lovers of the Laundromat
MESSAGE: Westinghouse logo isn't coming up....
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Post# 41-5/21/2001-06:25 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Now for the lovers of the Laundromat (strange?)
MESSAGE: I see the westinghouse logo just fine, do you guys?
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Post# 42-5/21/2001-06:30 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Now for the lovers of the Laundromat (opps)
MESSAGE: there I'm set to westinghouse, it should show the westinghouse logo now?
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Post# 43-5/21/2001-06:31 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Now for the lovers of the Laundromat (Westinghouse seems to work fine)
MESSAGE: Do you guys see the westinghouse logo?
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Post# 44-5/21/2001-06:37 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: I won the Apex Manual on Ebay!
MESSAGE: It turned out to be $37.00 bucks, but its worth it. I will scan it and place some of the best pictures in the owners manual library! Here's a picture of the cover...
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1430518674
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Post# 45-5/21/2001-07:29 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Miele question for Louis?
MESSAGE: Hey Louis, was the vintage Miele logo the same as the modern logo, or have they made changes over time? Let me know so I can scan both logos. Thanks.
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Post# 46-5/21/2001-07:30 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Now for the lovers of the Laundromat (Westinghouse seems to work fine)
MESSAGE: No logo shows up here - could be Netscape?
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Post# 47-5/21/2001-07:32 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Now for the lovers of the Laundromat (other logos?)
MESSAGE: Do the Kenmore, Whirlpool and other logos show up from earlier posts?
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Post# 48-5/21/2001-07:32 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: I won the Apex Manual on Ebay! (Repair Manual on Ebay now!)
MESSAGE: Did you see it? I put a bid in - feel free to take over if it goes above my bid.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1432106856&r=0&t=0&showTutorial=0&ed=991090022&indexURL=0&rd=1
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Post# 49-5/21/2001-07:44 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Now for the lovers of the Laundromat (thanks )
MESSAGE: It seems like the logos work fine in Internet Explorer but Netscape doesn't want to show the RCA Whirlpool and Westinghouse logos, all the others seem to show up fine in Netscape though. I'll check out those logos files tonight, it could have been a blip in the transfering to the server.
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Post# 50-5/21/2001-07:54 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Now for the lovers of the Laundromat (hey it works!)
MESSAGE: when I hit the PREV button in the pink list above, Netscape clears and when I go back to the posts the Westinghouse and Whirlpool logos should up (the Whirlpool logo is view in post #27).
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Post# 51-5/21/2001-08:36 ||| Peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: wallpaper
MESSAGE: I want to see if it works
I may change it
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Post# 52-5/21/2001-08:41 ||| Peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: wallpaper (try this one)
MESSAGE: I want to see different ones
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Post# 53-5/21/2001-08:49 ||| Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: I got in!
MESSAGE: Robert it works here. Thanks. Tom
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Post# 54-5/21/2001-09:14 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: I got in! (Hi)
MESSAGE: Hi Tom, welcome to Applianceville 2. Did you check out the Consumer Reports button. Soon I want to have every washer, dryer and dishwasher report loaded and ready to be read at any time!
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Post# 55-5/21/2001-09:15 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: wallpaper (try this one)
MESSAGE: looks like the wallpaper works just fine for you Peteski, thanks! Did you see the Hotpoint and Whirlpool Wallpaper on your last two posts?
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Post# 56-5/21/2001-09:53 ||| Peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: wallpaper (wallpaper )
MESSAGE: I saw Hotpoint but not Whirlpool
I may go with Frigidaire cause it's my fav
Thanks Peter
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Post# 57-5/21/2001-10:36 ||| Foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome to Applianceville
MESSAGE: Hi all (and especially Robert ofcourse). I'm very thrilled about this new website. I hope to meet you all often here. Louis
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Post# 58-5/21/2001-10:47 ||| Foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Miele question for Louis?
MESSAGE: No Robert, the Miele logo has always been the same one. And I bet it will stay the same for many years to come. Louis
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Post# 59-5/21/2001-10:59 ||| Foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: A suggestion (and another one)
MESSAGE: I would like a forward and previous button too, very convenient. I have another one, I like it that my name was not beginning with a Capital, actually it's forAloysius but that looks so silly. The names in the message part all begin automaticcaly with a capital, do you all want it that way? Perhaps it could be made possible to control that through the prodile? Or am I fussing about something small? Louis
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Post# 60-5/21/2001-11:06 ||| Foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: Wonderful!!!!!!!!
MESSAGE: I have visited the libaries that are already up. I was really impressed. You did a wonderful job Robert, the styling is wonderful and works really well. And everything is so very simple to use. Louis
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Post# 61-5/21/2001-11:32 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Checking Site on AOL
MESSAGE: Seems to work fine - was able to get all the features. Have a good day all!
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Post# 62-5/21/2001-11:45 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A suggestion (Vote for Capital Case)
MESSAGE: Thanks Louis, I can certainly have the system display our names in all lowercase, its probably not worth the extra server processing time to analyze each persons upper or lower case request, so lets just decide on what we want, ALL UPPDERCASE, all lowercase or First Letter Upper Case.
Vote for what you would like to see:
-ALL UPPDERCASE
-all lowercase
-First Letter Upper Case.
I vote First Letter Upper Case, but it really doesn't matter to me.
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Post# 63-5/21/2001-11:49 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Wonderful!!!!!!!!
MESSAGE: Thanks Louis, this will be so nice to have all of our scans and pictures organized in one easy place to find them. Yahoo Photos was good for a start, but we need a real Library! Most of us have lots to contribue so will figure out some standards such as 100dpi and the such for the scans and we will fill the libraries with goodies!
This is really the start of a new, more powerful information era for us Appliancevillians or Appliancevillers or what ever we call ourselves.
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Post# 64-5/21/2001-11:50 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Checking Site on AOL (YAY)
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg, does the wallpaper show up on AOL? Also was the standard AOL browser Netscape? Does anyone else use AOL out there in Applianceville?
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Post# 65-5/21/2001-11:54 ||| Foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: A suggestion (Vote for Capital Case)
MESSAGE: all lowercase, but you guessed that already.
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Post# 66-5/21/2001-11:54 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Miele question for Louis?
MESSAGE: Thanks for the info on the Miele logo Louis, I will scan that tonight and add it to the list of wallpapers, let me know if there are other non-American Logos that should go up. I'll do the Inglis logo too for our Canadian members. Hopefully they will show up without much trouble.
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Post# 67-5/21/2001-11:58 ||| Foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Wonderful!!!!!!!! (Appliancevillers)
MESSAGE: I'm looking forward to this new information era. All these things make it very easy for me to get even more acquainted with the American appliances.
BTW, I like Appliancevillers (versus Appliancekillers!!)
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Post# 68-5/21/2001-12:11 ||| Rapidry1000 (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: testing the new site
MESSAGE: Hi Robert
I just set up my profile and twice it did not pick up my name and birthdate and the questions asked beyond the number of items held by me.
Help
Your work is absolutely unbelievable. Thank you for devoting so much time and effort.
Many thanks
Rapidry1000
James
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Post# 69-5/21/2001-12:15 ||| Peterh770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: A suggestion (Vote for Capital Case)
MESSAGE: Doesn't matter to me, as I probably cannot do PeterH770!
Is this a great site or WHAT!!!
-ph
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Post# 70-5/21/2001-12:20 ||| Peterh770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Search
MESSAGE: It appears that the search function in the Archive is inop...?
-ph
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Post# 71-5/21/2001-12:22 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: testing the new site (Looks OK to me??)
MESSAGE: Hi James, when I select the Profiles button and select your name (Rapidry1000) it appears that all the information you typed is in there correctly, including birthdate. Can you take a look, go into the profiles button and click on your name, then hit the Reload or Refresh button on you browser, see if that makes any difference. Keep us posted, thanks so much for your help in testing.
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Post# 72-5/21/2001-12:25 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Search (works for me)
MESSAGE: Hi Peter, go into the Archive Button, select posts 0-2000, wait a second for it to load. Next RIGHT CLICK on the white page on the right side of the screen to select the white text page (not the yellow index). Hold down the Control Key and press F. Type in Speed Queen and see if it takes you to Eddy's message! It just worked fine for me in both IE and Netscape, but let me know. Are you using Internet Explorer or Netscape or another kind of browser?
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Post# 73-5/21/2001-12:32 ||| Foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Search (works for me)
MESSAGE: Works for me too. It's not only very handy for finding messages, but also for catching up after a holiday or so. Well done, Robert!
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Post# 74-5/21/2001-12:33 ||| Rapidry1000 (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: RE: testing the new site (Thanks Robert)
MESSAGE:
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Post# 75-5/21/2001-12:34 ||| Peterh770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: What goes where?
MESSAGE: Has any discussion started about which club website is for what? Are we continuing Yahoo and here simultaneously?
Will there be a "courtesy rules" page for appropriate conduct here?
-ph
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Post# 76-5/21/2001-12:35 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: What goes where? (oops a BUG)
MESSAGE: Peter and everyone else don't end your post with a dash and your initials. I see this is a bug that I will need to fix.
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Post# 77-5/21/2001-12:36 ||| Peterh770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Search (duh me)
MESSAGE: Yes it works. I just didn't select the first group of archive posts, thinking since that group is highlighted, it was selected already. It was a Monday moment...
-ph
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Post# 78-5/21/2001-12:37 ||| Peterh770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Search (dashes)
MESSAGE: Looks like this last post didn't bug out, unless Robert The Web Wizzard fixed it already!
dash ph
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Post# 79-5/21/2001-12:38 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: What goes where? (were in test mode)
MESSAGE: Before we make any decisions about where to post, lets give it a few days of testing to find any bugs and how important they are to be fixed before "Going Live". As for Yahoo Classic Appliances I know there was some resistance to stop using Yahoo, so I no reason why we cant use both. We do have more control and powerful features here, but I'm not positive that they all work properly yet. This is my first attempt at programming in HTML, Perl and Javascript.
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Post# 80-5/21/2001-12:39 ||| Foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Search (duh me)
MESSAGE: What wondered me more is why you already wanted to search the archives, I hope your memory isn't that bad. Age and Nutrasweet?
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Post# 81-5/21/2001-12:42 ||| Peterh770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Search (duh me)
MESSAGE: More like a senior moment or too much peroxide!
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Post# 82-5/21/2001-12:42 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Search (uses for Archives)
MESSAGE: When I was writing the code for the archive I realized that this will be a powerful feature after you been away for a few days. We can read all the messages in the archive and then write down the message numbers you want reply to, then go out and make your replies. What used to take almost an hour, can now be done in less than 10 minutes!
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Post# 83-5/21/2001-12:44 ||| Foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: What goes where? (rules)
MESSAGE: I would suggest that at least there is a link to a few courtesy rules overhere. One of them might be that this is a gay friendly site.
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Post# 84-5/21/2001-12:46 ||| Foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Search (duh me)
MESSAGE: The fun already starts even before the site is officially opened. That is what I like about our club.
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Post# 85-5/21/2001-12:49 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Its Perl Baily...
MESSAGE: Did everyone see Perl in today's picture of the day? This picture was taken from a magazine in a dentist's office waiting room, that I ripped out when I was probably 15 or 16 years old, back in '78 or '79! I just loved the site of the Westinghouse Front Loader running as I had never seen one of those machines in action up to that point.
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Post# 86-5/21/2001-12:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: What goes where? (rules schmules)
MESSAGE: I don't think we need rules, unless you guys think its necessary? We're a pretty behaived group as it is, with minor exceptions.
This sure seems faster than Yahoo, doesn't it?
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Post# 87-5/21/2001-14:16 ||| Peterh770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Its Perl Baily...
MESSAGE: I loved those ads, always so full of camp as only Pearl could do. This washer was my machine of choice for a very long time. Only the Firestone tire dealer sold Westies, and I never could get good looks at them, as I would be the only pre-teen appliance shopper in the store!
I forwarded the pic link to some friends of mine here at work, and of course they all want to know if I dress like that when I wash...
-ph
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Post# 88-5/21/2001-14:19 ||| Peterh770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: What goes where? (made to be broken)
MESSAGE: This site FLIES compared to Yahoo.
I just thought that a code of conduct might be helpful. I guess our mission statement on the main page pretty much sums it up...
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Post# 89-5/21/2001-14:33 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: What goes where? (whatever you guys want)
MESSAGE: If you guys feel we do need a code of conduct, please write it up and if we all agree I'll post it. I just want everyone to remember that this is our site, not mine. I really want to make this a community for us, very special--appliance loving people. We deserve a special place, we have so much to share. And I just know that once we advertise on the search engines, we're going to find others like us and help them come out of the washer closet too!
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Post# 90-5/21/2001-14:34 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Look what I just found
MESSAGE: Look what I just found on my hard drive, dated September 9, 2000. This time I can fit it all in one message! Remember this:
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Hi everyone, I was recently asked what is the difference between the Unimatic and the other Frigidaire washers and I wanted to give an explanation for those who might not know.
The Unimatic transmission was designed and built by a Frigidaire engineer named Kenneth O'Sissen back in the late 1930's. Kenneth, who was hired by Frigidaire after working at Bendix where he invented the incrementing timer for their bolt-down washer and Kenneth’s basic timer design is still used today in some washers and dishwashers. His Unimatic, (Uni. meaning one and Matic short for automatic) consisted of a pulsator crankshaft & spin cage/brake assembly type transmission located on the top, a motor mounted in the middle and a water pump mounted underneath the motor. It was one complete direct drive unit without any clutches, drive belts or pulleys. The motor ran at 1140rpm, the gearing ratio in the pulsator part of the mechanism made the agitator go up and down in a 1 7/8” stroke at 330 pulses per minute. Since there was no gearing in the spin section of the mechanism, the tub spun at the same rate as the motor -- 1140rpm, which made for incredibly dry clothes. Because of the war effort it wasn’t until 1947 that Frigidaire introduced this mechanism in its very first washer, model WJ-60. Unimatic washers for domestic use were continued to be produced through 1958.
In 1955 Frigidaire engineers experimented with a belt-drive mechanism and introduced the Pulsa-Matic mechanism on its lower end washer model WV-35. The Pulsa-Matic agitated up and down at a very rapid 630ppm and also spun the tub at 630rpm, which was the slowest spinning full-size washer GM Frigidaire ever produced. Because of the rapid agitation with the Pulsa-Matic, Frigidaire shortened the length of the stroke of the agitation from 1 7/8" to 3/4". This change in agitation stroke and pulse rate did reduce the rate of turnover of the clothes which made for less tangling, but did not clean anywhere near as well as the Unimatic’s agitation. For this reason the Pulsa-Matic only lasted 4 years as they continued to market it in '56, '57 and '58. These models (WV-35, WS-56, WD-56, WS-57, WD-57, WS-58, WD-58 and WDP-58) are now some of the rarest of the Frigidaire washers and I only know of one collector that has one of these Pulsa-Matic washers.
The only major design of the Unimatic washers outside of the normal yearly changes in the cabinet and control panels was the introduction of the 3-Ring Agitator in 1956, with a neoprene rubber, gray colored cap, lint-chaser ring and circulator ring. The same colors were used in ’57 and a bleach cup was added. In ’58 Frigidaire’s advertising firm suggested that they color the rings (sort of like they did in the ’57 magazine ad’s), so the cap became turquoise, the lint chaser ring became yellow and the circulator became a coral color.
In 1959 Frigidaire introduced their first coin-operated washer (model WCOZ). The WCOZ used the Unimatic tranny and coin-op Unimatics were produced until 1964. Starting in 1965 Frigidaire introduced other coin-op machines with various mechanisms and continued to make them until the mid 70’s. About 1962 Frigidaire introduce their top-loading Dry-Cleaner, it too used the Unimatic mechanism and I'm not sure how long it was produced for (anyone out there know????).
For the new 1959 domestic washer line Frigidaire discontinued the Unimatic (for home use) and completely discontinued the Pulsa-Matic. They now introduced the Multi-Matic which was nothing more than a very advanced version of the Pulsa-Matic. It consisted of two drive belts (one for agitate and one for spin), a new two speed motor and a special clutch to shift drive power between the two belts. This arrangement produced Frigidaire's first multi-speed washer, allowing for 330ppm for normal wash speed or a 220ppm delicate speed as well as a 850rpm high spin speed and a 330rpm delicate spin speed. Because of the slower 330ppm Frigidaire was now able to return the agitator stroke back to a full 1.25" just like the old Unimatic. For the 1963 line Frigidaire introduced it's new 12lb capacity tub, but unfortunately for both the 1963 and 1964 line Frigidaire cheapened the clutch design of the Multi-Matic which dropped the high spin speed from 850 all the way down to 710.
In 1965 (actually it was the end of the year 1964) Frigidaire introduced the Roller-Matic mechanism. This was now a belt-less mechanism again with rollers of different sizes to drive the transmission. They also brought back the high speed spin of 1010rpm (not quite as fast as the 1140 of the Unimatic, but still very impressive). The Imperial and Custom Imperial washers had this 1010 “Rapidry spin” as well as a 650 mid level spin and a 330 low speed spin. Agitation speeds remained at 330 normal or 220 delicate speeds. In '65 they also introduced the "Deep Action Agitator" which was also referred to as "Jet-Action". They had been experimenting with this 3-cone agitator since 1962 when they stated placing it in their coin-op machines, but for some reason waited until '65 to introduce it into the domestic line.
The 1970 line brought some very big changes. They introduced the new 1-18 washer with big 18lb perforated tub and the Jet-Cone agitator. The normal agitation speed was brought up from 330ppm to 360ppm and the spin speed was lowered from 1010 to about 660. They day's of the high speed spin were now over, even though its 660 was still the fastest spin available through the 1970's.
Of course in 1980 GM sold off Frigidaire it will never be the same :( . For a few years they kept the same general look of the cabinet and control panel of the 1-18 but inside was a 1970's design Westinghouse Top-Loading washer, one of the worst top-loader washer designs ever. It was a very dark-day in applianceville. The first time I saw this new Frigidaire after catching my breath, I nearly cried. I don’t need to describe to anyone out there in applianceville what WCI is producing now as a top-loader.
If anyone has any additions to add this piece of history, that would be really great!
*****
Post# 91-5/21/2001-14:37 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I just found (hmmmm)
MESSAGE: this does seem a bit buggy, I wonder if it has something to do with the quote character. I'll have to do a bit of research yet, we'll get these bugs out.
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Post# 92-5/21/2001-17:00 ||| Dadoes (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: First Post
MESSAGE: Quite a spiffy piece of work, Uni! It was acting a little flaky for a short while, especially in Netscape, but things seem to have cleared up now.
I do have a few comments and suggestions . . .
1. On the discussion area, where you have the pink section showing the message topics, and the white section for the text of the messages, it would be helpful to have a larger, more visible frame line between them to facilitate resizing the two frame sections.
2. As Louis suggested, a "next" and "back" link when perusing posts would be helpful, but the Archive section also works well for that.
3. Can you add Fisher & Paykel wallpaper? I know that's not exactly vintage, but . . .
4. I LOVE the picture-of-the-day feature!
5. Will club members have their own photo album areas for posting pictures?
6. What is the possibility for having a "preview post" function, for purposes of proofreading and editing before final submission?
7. How much server space is available for our domain?
8. You might consider using hyphens or underscores in the .htm filenames, instead of spaces. Current versions of IE and Netscape generally replace the spaces with "%20", but, as I've heard, some browsers have trouble with spaces in filenames. It's also a little disconcerting to see the Address or Location field in the browser report the page as http://www.classicappliances.com/NEW%20DISCUSS/DISPLAY%20PAGES/POST%20A%20NEW%20MESSAGE%20PAGE.htm. 8-)
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Post# 93-5/21/2001-17:01 ||| Dadoes (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: First Post
MESSAGE: Quite a spiffy piece of work, Uni! It was acting a little flaky for a short while, especially in Netscape, but things seem to have cleared up now.
I do have a few comments and suggestions.
1. On the discussion area, where you have the pink section showing the message topics, and the white section for the text of the messages, it would be helpful to have a larger, more visible frame line between them to facilitate resizing the two frame sections.
2. As Louis suggested, a next and back link when perusing posts would be helpful, but the Archive section also works well for that.
3. Can you add Fisher & Paykel wallpaper? I know that's not exactly vintage, but . . .
4. I LOVE the picture-of-the-day feature!
5. Will club members have their own photo album areas for posting pictures?
6. What is the possibility for having a preview post function, for purposes of proofreading and editing before final submission?
7. How much server space is available for our domain?
8. You might consider using hyphens or underscores in the .htm filenames, instead of spaces. Current versions of IE and Netscape generally replace the spaces with %20, but, as I've heard, some browsers have trouble with spaces in filenames. It's also a little disconcerting to see the Address or Location field in the browser report the page as http://www.classicappliances.com/NEW%20DISCUSS/DISPLAY%20PAGES/POST%20A%20NEW%20MESSAGE%20PAGE.htm. 8-)
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Post# 94-5/21/2001-17:06 ||| Dadoes (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: First Post
MESSAGE: When I posted the first post, everything before point number 3 didn't appear. I used my browser's back button to get back to the composition screen, and removed some quotation marks, as well changing a sentence that ended with an ellipsis (space-dot-space-dot-space-dot) to just a period. Posted it again, and now it's OK.
But I don't think the ellipsis was the problem, because I just noticed there is also one on point number 3 about the Fisher & Paykel wallpaper. Could have been the quotation marks.
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Post# 95-5/21/2001-17:48 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Its Perl Baily...
MESSAGE: I just loved it when Pearly sold those westy. Was it dahlin or honey she used a lot?
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Post# 96-5/21/2001-18:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: First Post
MESSAGE: Thanks Dadeos, I will work on some of your requests tonight. Keep checking back. This evening. You're right about the quote marks are making Perl chock. I think I have a fix though and will give it a try.
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Post# 97-5/21/2001-18:04 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: QUOTATION MARKS-DO NOT USE
MESSAGE: Hey guys, for the time being don't use any quotation marks, its making the program skip a beat. I'm researching a fix now, I might a solution.
Thanks, all you guys posting stuff really helps uncover the bugs so we can get this thing up and running!
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Post# 98-5/21/2001-18:05 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Its Perl Baily...
MESSAGE: I don't remember Perl selling Westinghouse washers Appnut, did she do this for quite a while?
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Post# 99-5/21/2001-18:16 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Ignore-Test
MESSAGE: The following message is a test without any quotes
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Post# 100-5/21/2001-18:17 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Ignore Test2
MESSAGE: The following message contains "
quotation"
marks.
This is another test, please ignore this message guys!
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Post# 101-5/21/2001-18:21 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Ignore Test2 (another test)
MESSAGE: This message also contains "
quotation"
marks.
This is only a test:
Hi everyone, I was recently asked what is the difference between the Unimatic and the other Frigidaire washers and I wanted to give an explanation for those who might not know.
The Unimatic transmission was designed and built by a Frigidaire engineer named Kenneth O'Sissen back in the late 1930's. Kenneth, who was hired by Frigidaire after working at Bendix where he invented the incrementing timer for their bolt-down washer and Kenneth’s basic timer design is still used today in some washers and dishwashers. His Unimatic, (Uni. meaning one and Matic short for automatic) consisted of a pulsator crankshaft & spin cage/brake assembly type transmission located on the top, a motor mounted in the middle and a water pump mounted underneath the motor. It was one complete direct drive unit without any clutches, drive belts or pulleys. The motor ran at 1140rpm, the gearing ratio in the pulsator part of the mechanism made the agitator go up and down in a 1 7/8” stroke at 330 pulses per minute. Since there was no gearing in the spin section of the mechanism, the tub spun at the same rate as the motor -- 1140rpm, which made for incredibly dry clothes. Because of the war effort it wasn’t until 1947 that Frigidaire introduced this mechanism in its very first washer, model WJ-60. Unimatic washers for domestic use were continued to be produced through 1958.
In 1955 Frigidaire engineers experimented with a belt-drive mechanism and introduced the Pulsa-Matic mechanism on its lower end washer model WV-35. The Pulsa-Matic agitated up and down at a very rapid 630ppm and also spun the tub at 630rpm, which was the slowest spinning full-size washer GM Frigidaire ever produced. Because of the rapid agitation with the Pulsa-Matic, Frigidaire shortened the length of the stroke of the agitation from 1 7/8"
to 3/4"
. This change in agitation stroke and pulse rate did reduce the rate of turnover of the clothes which made for less tangling, but did not clean anywhere near as well as the Unimatic’s agitation. For this reason the Pulsa-Matic only lasted 4 years as they continued to market it in '56, '57 and '58. These models (WV-35, WS-56, WD-56, WS-57, WD-57, WS-58, WD-58 and WDP-58) are now some of the rarest of the Frigidaire washers and I only know of one collector that has one of these Pulsa-Matic washers.
The only major design of the Unimatic washers outside of the normal yearly changes in the cabinet and control panels was the introduction of the 3-Ring Agitator in 1956, with a neoprene rubber, gray colored cap, lint-chaser ring and circulator ring. The same colors were used in ’57 and a bleach cup was added. In ’58 Frigidaire’s advertising firm suggested that they color the rings (sort of like they did in the ’57 magazine ad’s), so the cap became turquoise, the lint chaser ring became yellow and the circulator became a coral color.
In 1959 Frigidaire introduced their first coin-operated washer (model WCOZ). The WCOZ used the Unimatic tranny and coin-op Unimatics were produced until 1964. Starting in 1965 Frigidaire introduced other coin-op machines with various mechanisms and continued to make them until the mid 70’s. About 1962 Frigidaire introduce their top-loading Dry-Cleaner, it too used the Unimatic mechanism and I'm not sure how long it was produced for (anyone out there know????).
For the new 1959 domestic washer line Frigidaire discontinued the Unimatic (for home use) and completely discontinued the Pulsa-Matic. They now introduced the Multi-Matic which was nothing more than a very advanced version of the Pulsa-Matic. It consisted of two drive belts (one for agitate and one for spin), a new two speed motor and a special clutch to shift drive power between the two belts. This arrangement produced Frigidaire's first multi-speed washer, allowing for 330ppm for normal wash speed or a 220ppm delicate speed as well as a 850rpm high spin speed and a 330rpm delicate spin speed. Because of the slower 330ppm Frigidaire was now able to return the agitator stroke back to a full 1.25"
just like the old Unimatic. For the 1963 line Frigidaire introduced it's new 12lb capacity tub, but unfortunately for both the 1963 and 1964 line Frigidaire cheapened the clutch design of the Multi-Matic which dropped the high spin speed from 850 all the way down to 710.
In 1965 (actually it was the end of the year 1964) Frigidaire introduced the Roller-Matic mechanism. This was now a belt-less mechanism again with rollers of different sizes to drive the transmission. They also brought back the high speed spin of 1010rpm (not quite as fast as the 1140 of the Unimatic, but still very impressive). The Imperial and Custom Imperial washers had this 1010 “Rapidry spin” as well as a 650 mid level spin and a 330 low speed spin. Agitation speeds remained at 330 normal or 220 delicate speeds. In '65 they also introduced the "
Deep Action Agitator"
which was also referred to as "
Jet-Action"
. They had been experimenting with this 3-cone agitator since 1962 when they stated placing it in their coin-op machines, but for some reason waited until '65 to introduce it into the domestic line.
The 1970 line brought some very big changes. They introduced the new 1-18 washer with big 18lb perforated tub and the Jet-Cone agitator. The normal agitation speed was brought up from 330ppm to 360ppm and the spin speed was lowered from 1010 to about 660. They day's of the high speed spin were now over, even though its 660 was still the fastest spin available through the 1970's.
Of course in 1980 GM sold off Frigidaire it will never be the same :( . For a few years they kept the same general look of the cabinet and control panel of the 1-18 but inside was a 1970's design Westinghouse Top-Loading washer, one of the worst top-loader washer designs ever. It was a very dark-day in applianceville. The first time I saw this new Frigidaire after catching my breath, I nearly cried. I don’t need to describe to anyone out there in applianceville what WCI is producing now as a top-loader.
If anyone has any additions to add this piece of history, that would be really great!
*****
Post# 102-5/21/2001-18:21 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Final Test
MESSAGE: Hi everyone, I was recently asked what is the difference between the Unimatic and the other Frigidaire washers and I wanted to give an explanation for those who might not know.
The Unimatic transmission was designed and built by a Frigidaire engineer named Kenneth O'Sissen back in the late 1930's. Kenneth, who was hired by Frigidaire after working at Bendix where he invented the incrementing timer for their bolt-down washer and Kenneth’s basic timer design is still used today in some washers and dishwashers. His Unimatic, (Uni. meaning one and Matic short for automatic) consisted of a pulsator crankshaft & spin cage/brake assembly type transmission located on the top, a motor mounted in the middle and a water pump mounted underneath the motor. It was one complete direct drive unit without any clutches, drive belts or pulleys. The motor ran at 1140rpm, the gearing ratio in the pulsator part of the mechanism made the agitator go up and down in a 1 7/8” stroke at 330 pulses per minute. Since there was no gearing in the spin section of the mechanism, the tub spun at the same rate as the motor -- 1140rpm, which made for incredibly dry clothes. Because of the war effort it wasn’t until 1947 that Frigidaire introduced this mechanism in its very first washer, model WJ-60. Unimatic washers for domestic use were continued to be produced through 1958.
In 1955 Frigidaire engineers experimented with a belt-drive mechanism and introduced the Pulsa-Matic mechanism on its lower end washer model WV-35. The Pulsa-Matic agitated up and down at a very rapid 630ppm and also spun the tub at 630rpm, which was the slowest spinning full-size washer GM Frigidaire ever produced. Because of the rapid agitation with the Pulsa-Matic, Frigidaire shortened the length of the stroke of the agitation from 1 7/8"
to 3/4"
. This change in agitation stroke and pulse rate did reduce the rate of turnover of the clothes which made for less tangling, but did not clean anywhere near as well as the Unimatic’s agitation. For this reason the Pulsa-Matic only lasted 4 years as they continued to market it in '56, '57 and '58. These models (WV-35, WS-56, WD-56, WS-57, WD-57, WS-58, WD-58 and WDP-58) are now some of the rarest of the Frigidaire washers and I only know of one collector that has one of these Pulsa-Matic washers.
The only major design of the Unimatic washers outside of the normal yearly changes in the cabinet and control panels was the introduction of the 3-Ring Agitator in 1956, with a neoprene rubber, gray colored cap, lint-chaser ring and circulator ring. The same colors were used in ’57 and a bleach cup was added. In ’58 Frigidaire’s advertising firm suggested that they color the rings (sort of like they did in the ’57 magazine ad’s), so the cap became turquoise, the lint chaser ring became yellow and the circulator became a coral color.
In 1959 Frigidaire introduced their first coin-operated washer (model WCOZ). The WCOZ used the Unimatic tranny and coin-op Unimatics were produced until 1964. Starting in 1965 Frigidaire introduced other coin-op machines with various mechanisms and continued to make them until the mid 70’s. About 1962 Frigidaire introduce their top-loading Dry-Cleaner, it too used the Unimatic mechanism and I'm not sure how long it was produced for (anyone out there know????).
For the new 1959 domestic washer line Frigidaire discontinued the Unimatic (for home use) and completely discontinued the Pulsa-Matic. They now introduced the Multi-Matic which was nothing more than a very advanced version of the Pulsa-Matic. It consisted of two drive belts (one for agitate and one for spin), a new two speed motor and a special clutch to shift drive power between the two belts. This arrangement produced Frigidaire's first multi-speed washer, allowing for 330ppm for normal wash speed or a 220ppm delicate speed as well as a 850rpm high spin speed and a 330rpm delicate spin speed. Because of the slower 330ppm Frigidaire was now able to return the agitator stroke back to a full 1.25"
just like the old Unimatic. For the 1963 line Frigidaire introduced it's new 12lb capacity tub, but unfortunately for both the 1963 and 1964 line Frigidaire cheapened the clutch design of the Multi-Matic which dropped the high spin speed from 850 all the way down to 710.
In 1965 (actually it was the end of the year 1964) Frigidaire introduced the Roller-Matic mechanism. This was now a belt-less mechanism again with rollers of different sizes to drive the transmission. They also brought back the high speed spin of 1010rpm (not quite as fast as the 1140 of the Unimatic, but still very impressive). The Imperial and Custom Imperial washers had this 1010 “Rapidry spin” as well as a 650 mid level spin and a 330 low speed spin. Agitation speeds remained at 330 normal or 220 delicate speeds. In '65 they also introduced the "
Deep Action Agitator"
which was also referred to as "
Jet-Action"
. They had been experimenting with this 3-cone agitator since 1962 when they stated placing it in their coin-op machines, but for some reason waited until '65 to introduce it into the domestic line.
The 1970 line brought some very big changes. They introduced the new 1-18 washer with big 18lb perforated tub and the Jet-Cone agitator. The normal agitation speed was brought up from 330ppm to 360ppm and the spin speed was lowered from 1010 to about 660. They day's of the high speed spin were now over, even though its 660 was still the fastest spin available through the 1970's.
Of course in 1980 GM sold off Frigidaire it will never be the same :( . For a few years they kept the same general look of the cabinet and control panel of the 1-18 but inside was a 1970's design Westinghouse Top-Loading washer, one of the worst top-loader washer designs ever. It was a very dark-day in applianceville. The first time I saw this new Frigidaire after catching my breath, I nearly cried. I don’t need to describe to anyone out there in applianceville what WCI is producing now as a top-loader.
If anyone has any additions to add this piece of history, that would be really great!
*****
Post# 103-5/21/2001-18:24 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: YAY for 1010 page and RPM's
MESSAGE: Page number 1010 (just like the Rapidry 1000 spin speed) told me how to convert those "
quotes"
to their hexadecimal values so the system wont choke on "
quote"
marks anymore. You guys can resume using "
's. Thanks for the help, this is great!
*****
Post# 104-5/21/2001-18:28 ||| UNimATic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Lets see if this works
MESSAGE: How does my name look?
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Post# 105-5/21/2001-18:32 ||| uniMATIC1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: LOUIS, this was for you
MESSAGE: I just changed the code so your login name will appear in the pink index as well as in the white message in same the same capital case that you typed it to log-in.
In other words, when you hit login type your username in all upper case if you want it to show in all upper case or any other case you like, it will show up exactly as you type it in!
YAY, everyone gets to have their name shown exactly as they want without any extra if-then code on the server!
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Post# 106-5/21/2001-19:03 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: And for my next trick
MESSAGE: The F&P wallpaper should appear just for you Dadoes!
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Post# 107-5/21/2001-19:19 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Now I'm Miele Fan
MESSAGE: Miele Logo added to the choices, as well as F&P. Any other logo requests, I have a lot more coming?
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Post# 108-5/21/2001-19:48 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: First Post (thank you)
MESSAGE: Hi Dadoes, thanks for all those great suggestions. Here are my responses to each one...
#1. I tried adding a visiable frame line between the frames, and this works great for us at 800x600 and above, but there are quite a few of us at 640x480 screen resolution and it took up quite a lot of screen real estate. I can still add them if we think is necessary though, just want to be thoughtful of those who have smaller screens. Let me know.
#2. NEXT and PREV post buttons I will look into coding this during the long holiday weekend coming up. This is going to take a lot of coding and I want to get the other small bugs out first before I start adding major code.
#3. DONE, you can change your wallpaper by going into the Edit My Profile button.
#4. Thanks, I have 24 pictures loaded, but I'm going to upload more tonight. The system generates a random number every day to pick a new picture.
#5. Eventually it would be nice to figure out a way that everyone can post their own pictures. But for now lets all continue using Yahoo Photos. For stuff being added to the libraries anyone who wants to add something can scan it at 100dpi and email to me and I will add it for now.
#6. I will look into a preview feature, I don't think this is going to be as hard to write or as server-tasking as the PREV and NEXT buttons, so I will try and do that this week.
#7. Hispeed (our server company) says we have unlimited server space, but I don't believe that. I bet its around 500mb or so.
#8. I change the files names of the pages but our users really wont need to know the exact name, they just want a button to click to do all the work.
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Post# 109-5/21/2001-20:27 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Checking Site on AOL (YAY)
MESSAGE: Yes, the wallpaper was there too - I was only using AOL's internet feature (through the AOL shell) not Netscape, although I'm sure they are pretty closely related.
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Post# 110-5/21/2001-20:28 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Checking Site on AOL (YAY)
MESSAGE: Oops, forgot to mention one thing I noticed. I was only on the site for few minutes, but when I posted the message orginally, I couldn't see it in the message list right away, even with the re-load a couple of times.
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Post# 111-5/21/2001-20:37 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Reply to Screen Suggestion
MESSAGE: Would it be possible to have a "
View Replies to this Message Key"
that would pull up a list of message postings that were a reply to an orginal post. Yahoo has a feature like this and it could be a handy tool if we are researching a topic from the archives. The keyword search would work for this too, but the View Replies would be nice for more specific on topics. Not something vital that we'd need right away, but down the road would be nice to have - just a little more powerful edge?
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Post# 112-5/21/2001-20:39 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Its Perl Baily... (On TV too!)
MESSAGE: Do you remember her on the TV commercials? There were a number of them (including the shot in the pic of the day) where she was halking Westy wares. Gotta love Pearl!
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Post# 113-5/21/2001-20:52 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Its Perl Baily... (Pics )
MESSAGE: Is this going to change every day?
Peter
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Post# 114-5/21/2001-20:54 ||| Peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Its Perl Baily... (change logo)
MESSAGE: I thought I would try another
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Post# 115-5/21/2001-20:56 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Its Perl Baily... (hi peter)
MESSAGE: change back to Whirlpool if you don't mind. I think I just figured out the logo problem with netscape.
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Post# 116-5/21/2001-20:57 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Its Perl Baily... (Yup)
MESSAGE: The picture of the day only lasts 24 hours, it automatically changes at 3am your time.
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Post# 117-5/21/2001-20:59 ||| Peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Its Perl Baily... (changed )
MESSAGE: Ok Robert
I changed back to Whirlpool
Peter
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Post# 118-5/21/2001-21:03 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Its Perl Baily... (its working)
MESSAGE: yay, hopefully all new message will show the wallpaper properly. Netscape didn't like my file names.
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Post# 119-5/21/2001-21:10 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Its Perl Baily... (thanks)
MESSAGE: Thanks for your help Pete. By the way, I just got off the phone with John and he says your going down there to DC for a visit. Should be fun, I can't wait to see the museum in person.
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Post# 120-5/21/2001-21:18 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Its Perl Baily...
MESSAGE: Yes, Uni, Pearl was the tv spokesman for Westinghouse for a number of years, before & after the WCI debaucle. I only remember her selling the front load washers too.
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Post# 121-5/21/2001-21:27 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Its Perl Baily...
MESSAGE: thanks appnut I never saw any of her commercials, otherwise I would have remember them. Just this little magazine ad.
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Post# 122-5/21/2001-21:29 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: A new logo suggestion
MESSAGE: Uni, can ya dig up a Hamilton logo. I think we should pay homage & respect to the pioneer of the dryer and such a rugged, long-lasting machine. Heck, I may change posting wall paper every day just to be fun.
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Post# 123-5/21/2001-21:33 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Its Perl Baily...
MESSAGE: Oh that's okay "
dahlin"
. Pearl used to have her ads quite a bit on the Merve Griffin Show, some soaps, and other afternoon shows like Griffin's that my mom would have on the tv when i got home from school. Jane Wyatt, from Father Knows Best, used to do ads for Kenmore. I remember a mag ad she did for the LK w/d you had in your basement, until recently; the piano keyboard LK in avocado; as well as a LK roto-rack ad entitled "
The best cleaning lady in town."
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Post# 124-5/21/2001-21:34 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Reply to Screen Suggestion
MESSAGE: Thats a great idea Greg, I'll add that to the to-do list for the future enhancements. Your westinghouse wallpaper should now be fixed for all new messages you post in Netscape. Thanks for helping double check AOL.
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Post# 125-5/21/2001-21:47 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: And for my next trick
MESSAGE: YeeeHawww! I gots wallpaper!!
(testing it with this post)
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Post# 126-5/21/2001-21:48 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: And for my next trick
MESSAGE: And my nick case is correct-a-mundo!!!
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Post# 127-5/21/2001-22:00 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Two New Logos added
MESSAGE: One for Scott, one for Appnut!
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Post# 128-5/21/2001-22:07 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion (logos logos everywhere)
MESSAGE: Two nights of Anne Frank, I need to talk appliances!
Norge logo with the squares around the letters.
That wonderful Bendix script.
Is the Kenmore one the one with the '60 K?
The Speed Queen logo with the queen with the perfectly horizontal hair, like on Greg's 54's?
Not to mention the different Frigidaire crowns. How about a background with the spiffy woman in long gloves and crown "
doing the sheer look"
?
Isn't there a Kelvinator and/or ABC logo?
Robert: for the logos, do you get them from digital pics you take or from literature scans?
Oh God, Monica Kaufmann has white hair! That woman has more hair styles than Dolly Parton has wigs! She's a news anchor here...
I won a Frigidaire '56 tech talk on ebay tonight.
11pm and I'm pooped! You guys have a wonderful night! Catch you in the morning...
Robert: your doing great!
-ph
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Post# 129-5/21/2001-22:10 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion (bug)
MESSAGE: The program also does not like "
greater than"
and "
less than"
signs. My last post started with Whew! in the pointed brackets and that emotional sigh is missing altogether...
-ph
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Post# 130-5/21/2001-22:14 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion (OY)
MESSAGE: One at a time please boys! Don't worry I have logos for everything. In time everybody requests will be furnished.
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Post# 131-5/21/2001-22:15 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion (bug)
MESSAGE: Thanks Peter I have to do the same to those greater than and less than signs that I did with the quotes. I knew having everyone test would turn up the bugs quickly. Thanks you guys.
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Post# 132-5/21/2001-22:16 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion (Explorer script error)
MESSAGE: I got the internet Explorer script error pop-up at work, but I figure that was just my work PC with the network connection. I just got it here on my laptop using AOL. Does anyone know if there is there an internet setting I need to check?
-ph
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Post# 133-5/21/2001-22:19 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion (slow down, sweetie!)
MESSAGE: Robert... Sweetie... Slow down! I don't want them all in yesterday! I was just asking how you got them into your 'puter... Don't you be up all night doing this computer hokus-pokus... Sleep is a good thing, amongst other things horizontal...
'nite all!!!
-ph
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Post# 134-5/21/2001-22:21 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion
MESSAGE: Thank you Mr. Uni, you gentleman and scholar you!!!
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Post# 135-5/21/2001-22:31 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion (my pleasure)
MESSAGE: After all this I should be able to go out and get a job as a web designer.
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Post# 136-5/21/2001-22:33 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion (slow down, sweetie!)
MESSAGE: Oh, I forgot, this isn't work? Actually I'm having so much fun doing all this I really don't mind. Its really good experience for me anyway.
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Post# 137-5/21/2001-22:37 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion (Explorer script error)
MESSAGE: Peter try it again first thing in the morning and see if this error was still coming up. We'll try to troubleshoot it then.
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Post# 138-5/21/2001-22:55 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Well since I can't read the posts on Yahoo
MESSAGE: I'm being sent back to message 40 again. Hopefully I can see Todd's new sink in the morning. Nite guys.
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By the way, the first person to see the new picture of the day gets a special message telling them they are the first viewer. If you're first please let us know that you did get the message.
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Post# 139-5/21/2001-24:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Its Perl Baily... (Kenmore Print Ads)
MESSAGE: I have a number of ads for Sears appliances with lots of notable people. All of them have the same foundation - " (name of famous person) could afford any washer, dryer, refrigerator, sewing machine, etc. - but they chose Kenmore." The Jane Wyatt LK ad is great - an all glass laundry room and the avocado set - true 70's!
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Post# 140-5/21/2001-24:39 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Its Perl Baily... (Kenmore Print Ads)
MESSAGE: That sounds wonderful! Let's get 'em scanned and on the site!
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Post# 141-5/21/2001-24:39 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Profiles Section - Member's Links
MESSAGE: Hi - how about a "favorite link" field in the profiles section? Several spaces would be nice for those of us that have a number of yahoo identities or sites that pictures are posted on, or better yet, we talked once about some kind of "link bank" for links to other fun sites, but could we have the same for each user/member for their individual sites indexed by user name, this would keep things organized for everyone. No hurry, I'll check back tomorrow - just kidding! Have a good night all.
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Post# 142-5/21/2001-24:42 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion (Logo gone again...)
MESSAGE: Westy logo is still gone for me tonight.......I changed to Miele to see if that one works for me.
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Post# 143-5/21/2001-24:42 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion (miele worked OK)
MESSAGE:
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Post# 144-5/21/2001-00:16 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: Picture of the Day suggestion
MESSAGE: The browser back button works of course, but how's about a link for "home" on it?
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Post# 145-5/22/2001-04:08 ||| EDDY1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Well since I can't read the posts on Yahoo (first to see the pic of the day)
MESSAGE: Good morning all. Well, I guess I was the first to see the new pic of the day! I did get the message telling me that indeed I was the first. The website has been working great for me so far. Nice to see everyone here.
Eddy
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Post# 146-5/22/2001-05:29 ||| Scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT: New web site
MESSAGE: Robert you did a fabulous job with this web site! I'm jelous because I never would have been able to do anything like this. I't really looks good. Thank you!
SD
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Post# 147-5/22/2001-05:54 ||| Foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: LOUIS, this was for you
MESSAGE: Robert, you are the greatest!!!! And thanks for the Miele logo, from now on I will be posting on a Miele background, YAY!
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Post# 148-5/22/2001-06:41 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion (Logo gone again...)
MESSAGE: Morning Greg, change your wallpaper back to westy, it should work now. I made a fix last night, but you need to reset your profile.
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Post# 149-5/22/2001-06:54 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the Day suggestion (You wish is my command)
MESSAGE: DONE
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Post# 150-5/22/2001-06:54 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Well since I can't read the posts on Yahoo (first to see the pic of the day)
MESSAGE: Thanks Eddy, glad to know that does work! I'm never up early enough.
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Post# 151-5/22/2001-06:57 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New web site
MESSAGE: Thanks Scott, welcome to Applianceville 2
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Post# 152-5/22/2001-07:03 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: 19 Members & Counting
MESSAGE: 19 Members have signed up and added profiles, YAY. We're growing already.
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Post# 153-5/22/2001-07:40 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Driest Spin In Town!
MESSAGE: Some of you guys might remember this postcard, it was the very first picture I posted to share with the "new club".
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/unimatic1140/vwp?.dir=/Frigidaire&.dnm=Driest+Spin+In+Town!.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 154-5/22/2001-08:16 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion (happening at work)
MESSAGE: I go into my profile, change my wallpaper to Hotpoint, click to update, and...
An error has occurred in the scirpt on this page.
line: 11
char: 1
error: object expected
code: 0
Do you want to continue running the script on this page? y/n
-ph
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Post# 155-5/22/2001-08:22 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Driest Spin In Town!
MESSAGE: Back then, they would install all these washer, then install one 50# dryer for about every 4 washers! So it's always more impressive to show lots and lots of washers and kinda ignore the dryers. Boy, I'd love to find 6 coin-op Frigidaires to replace my GE's.
-ph
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Post# 156-5/22/2001-08:31 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: POTD 5/22
MESSAGE: Those Westy coin-op were in every laundry room at the University of Rochester in 1981. They were replaced with Maytags in 1983. The ones in the basement of my dorm were significantly older than the ones in the rooftop laundry, and the old ones washed and spun significantly faster than the newer ones, such that the indexing tub didn't seem to hinder washing too badly. Love the way they took the side-opening lid, put a hinge on the back and put the little chrome handle on the front. The only purpose for the lid switch was to sense that the lid was down, so when the washer went into spin, the lid lock solenoid was activated. You could fake it out with a pencil, then leave the lid up for spin observation. I think the old SQ coin-ops did the same.
-ph
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Post# 157-5/22/2001-08:47 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion (error)
MESSAGE: Peter are you only getting this when you press "update change to my profile button"? And did this happen at home or just on your work computer? What browser and version are you running at work? Any details will be helpful, has anyone else seen this error message? Even though you received this error it looks like its still working fine because you were able to change your wallpaper, but I would still like to figure out the cause of the error message.
Thanks Peter
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Post# 158-5/22/2001-08:49 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Driest Spin In Town! (dream machine)
MESSAGE: I would love to find a 1959 WCOZ Frigidaire coin op Unimatic, with a round window lid, that would be a dream machine.
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Post# 159-5/22/2001-08:52 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD 5/22 (spin speed?)
MESSAGE: Peter I don't think those Top-Loading Coin-Op Westinghouse machines spun any faster than the domestic models did, they were pretty slow at 550 rpm or so. I remember the laundry rooms in my Grandparents Condo after they moved to Fort Lauderdale in 1974 had 5 coin-op Whirlpools and just 1 of those Westy coin-op top loaders. I thought it was a neat machine.
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Post# 160-5/22/2001-09:20 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion (error)
MESSAGE: Yes, just when I update my profile. I'm running Internet Explorer 4.72 here at work. At home, it's AOL v5. The updates seem to take, and since it is happening in 2 different places with different PC setups, it's more of a Windows thing rather than anything with the website...
-ph
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Post# 161-5/22/2001-09:26 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD 5/22 (spin speed?)
MESSAGE: Not the dorm basement machines. If the new machines upstairs were washing at about 60 spm, the basement machines were at 70-80. Kinda like comparing a Maytag wash speed to a GE. They were much more vigorous and brisk. I'd assume the spin was faster. I couldn't tell by dryer time, as those Westy dryers were really bad, and each one dried differently.
-ph
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Post# 162-5/22/2001-09:28 ||| ()
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion (DaDoes)
MESSAGE: Maybe DaDoes can help with this one?
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Post# 163-5/22/2001-09:31 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD 5/22 (coin vs. domestic)
MESSAGE: Oh, I didn't mean that there was a difference between the coin and home models. I meant that the difference was between older and newer models. The basement machines had the plastic covered wire clothes guards, gray agitators with very deep cuts between the vanes and the barrel/skirt. The newer machines had light blue agitators with shallower cuts, plastic clothes guard. Seems to me the hole pattern in the tub was different too. The older machines made that curved-agitator-sucking sound as they washed; the newer machines just hummed along.
-ph
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Post# 164-5/22/2001-09:31 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion (who ARE you?)
MESSAGE: That post has no author... We have a ghost already!
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Post# 165-5/22/2001-11:05 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: LOUIS, this was for you (Just a test)
MESSAGE: I'm home again, I saw a few things at work. Now a post as a little test.
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Post# 166-5/22/2001-11:06 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD 5/22 (Lid Lock Defeaters Anonymous -LLDA)
MESSAGE: Peter I used to take a pencil and jamb it into the Speed Queens at the Laundromat too! The speed queens used to make so much noise when they were filling up. AS if they were pumping the water from deep in the ground!
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Post# 167-5/22/2001-12:43 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion (DaDoes)
MESSAGE: It's definitely related to IE 4.xx. I have two computers at the office running IE4, and I get the script error on both when updating my profile, although the changes do appear to take effect. I don't get the script error on IE5/5.5 or Netscape 4.75. I've seen other sites that trigger script errors as well with IE4.
Just my opinion, but seems like the best solution would be for PeterH to upgrade his IE to insure compatibility with the latest script coding on all the sites he may visit. It's easy to do. Go to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com and click on the "Product Updates" link -- NOT on the rather prominent link for IE 5.5. Scroll through the list of available updates, and get your choice of either IE 5.02 or IE 5.5. Be sure to also get all the Critical Updates, and look in the Recommended Updates section for the Microsoft Virtual Machine. Some of the items must be a single download, then you reboot and go back to get more, until you have everything you need. Beware that a browser upgrade will likely be a very large download -- it may start with a small "installer" that is only a few hundred KB, but then that will download the rest of the update, possibly as much as 17 MB.
LINK: http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
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Post# 168-5/22/2001-12:45 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion (DaDoes)
MESSAGE: Forgot to mention . . . stay away from the IE6 Beta.
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Post# 169-5/22/2001-12:52 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: LOUIS, this was for you (everything OK Louis?)
MESSAGE: Is everything working OK for you?
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Post# 170-5/22/2001-12:54 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD 5/22 (SQ Lid Locks)
MESSAGE: I used to do the same thing with the Speed Queen coin ops. I noticed that once the locking bar came across the lid switch lever, it automatically would hold down the lid switch level and it would spin with the lid open.
Talk about a bug that was never fixed!
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Post# 171-5/22/2001-12:55 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion (DaDoes)
MESSAGE: Thanks Dadoes, I'll look at line 11 of the code, but wont worry too much about it.
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Post# 172-5/22/2001-13:23 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: LOUIS, this was for you (everything OK Louis?)
MESSAGE: Robert, everything works like a charm, I'm enjoying this thoroughly.
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Post# 173-5/22/2001-14:00 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Driest Spin In Town! (window lid)
MESSAGE: Wow - I thought those were Hamilton machines with that window lid! (tee hee)
What a dream that would be - guess it was really the driest spin the country at that point.
Great postcard - thanks.
Now let's see if the Westy logo works....
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Post# 174-5/22/2001-14:08 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: YaPOO isn't working at all now....
MESSAGE: I tried to get into the club (and other Yapoo sites) this AM early, but it wasn't working - couldn't even get the home page up for several minutes. When I clicked on posts, it took me to mssg. 40 everytime. This site was certainly timely - I wouldn't be able to get my "Appliance Fix" without it! I should be in the garage working on some anyway.....
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Post# 175-5/22/2001-15:08 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Driest Spin In Town! (HEY)
MESSAGE: Excuse me, but isn't it still the driest spin in town, what up with this "was really the driest spin the country at that point!" Mister!
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Post# 176-5/22/2001-15:10 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: YaPOO isn't working at all now.... (Yahoo Pictures)
MESSAGE: Yahoo Photos is also acting funny, at least we can say we've always been able to get into the new Applianceville. A missing logo here and there, an error message on occassion, but at least the posts all pop up within a second or two after posting them and we've never been sent back to message 40 here, YAY.
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Post# 177-5/22/2001-16:37 ||| Scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Hi Everybody!
MESSAGE: Wow! There are a lot of messages over here already, everyone is having a good time! Robert, you have outdone yourself as usual, thank you for all your hard work. I really like the way the posting and reading system works. Glad to see we can edit our profiles as I'm sure I'll think of things I want to add or change!
I've really been enjoying the picture of the day feature too.
Scott
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Post# 178-5/22/2001-16:38 ||| Scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Background
MESSAGE: Oops I had forgotten to select a background!
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Post# 179-5/22/2001-16:42 ||| Peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire background
MESSAGE: I thought I would try being JetAction is my favorate
Peter
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Post# 180-5/22/2001-18:31 ||| Scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Steve D--
MESSAGE: What is a 1968 Frigidaire "High Fashion" washer? This sounds intriguing! Scott
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Post# 181-5/22/2001-18:48 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi Everybody! (Hey You)
MESSAGE: Hi Scott, welcome to the Club, we've been anxiously wait for you to arrive. I purposely scanned the F and Crown logo for you last night cause I knew it would be your favorite! Enjoy.
We’re still in test mode, but things are running so much better than I expected that I think we can soon consider "going live".
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Post# 182-5/22/2001-18:57 ||| Scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi Everybody! (Hey You)
MESSAGE: Thanks! I saw your post earlier where you talked about scanning the later Frigidaire logo and I was so pleased! I'm glad things are running smoothly, we're on our way! S
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Post# 183-5/22/2001-19:27 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi Everybody! (THIS IS A TEST)
MESSAGE: THIS IS ONLY A TEST, PLEASE IGNORE, I'M TRYING TO FIND THE CAUSE OF TODAY'S GHOST POST.
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Post# 184-5/22/2001-19:32 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi Everybody! (TESTS COMPLETED)
MESSAGE: THANKS FOR YOUR PATIENCE GUYS.
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Post# 185-5/22/2001-20:31 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: Thanks Robert!!
MESSAGE: Just wanted to thank you again Robert! This new site is wonderful!!
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Post# 186-5/22/2001-20:37 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Thanks Robert!! (YAY)
MESSAGE: Hi Jason, welcome to the club!
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Post# 187-5/22/2001-20:38 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Driest Spin In Town! (HEY)
MESSAGE: I was speaking only of the period in which that postcard was made - you would be correct though, still is the driest spin, but there aren't any Unimatic equipped laundromats around now!
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Post# 188-5/22/2001-20:40 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: YaPOO isn't working at all now.... (Server is lightening fast!!)
MESSAGE: I love the speed and reliability with this site versus yahoo - it's like a slice of heaven!
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Post# 189-5/22/2001-20:49 ||| kc4ab (limaburg ky)
SUBJECT: RE: New web site
MESSAGE: dam he found me
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Post# 190-5/22/2001-20:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Driest Spin In Town! (HEY)
MESSAGE: True, true, Greg, sad but true.
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Post# 191-5/22/2001-22:01 ||| EDDY1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: Unimatic's range pic
MESSAGE: Hi Robert, I remember you posted a picture of your range in one of your photo albums. I can't seem to find it. Could you tell me which yahoo photo album it's in? I have a friend over who is into vintage electric and gas ranges and I wanted to show him. Thanks,
Eddy
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Post# 192-5/22/2001-22:07 ||| Scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Unimatic's range pic
MESSAGE: Hi Eddy! Here you go, in case Uni doesn't get back to see this! Thank you for your email, sorry I've taken so long to get back to you we'll talk later or soon! Scott :)
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/unimatic1140/vwp?.dir=/Frigidaire&.src=ph&.dnm=Frigidaire+1954+30+Range.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/unimatic1140/lst%3f%26.dir=/Frigidaire%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 193-5/22/2001-22:15 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Unimatic's range pic (thanks)
MESSAGE: Thanks for your help Scott, looks like you uncovered another minor bug to be fixed too.
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Post# 194-5/22/2001-22:24 ||| EDDY1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Unimatic's range pic (thanks)
MESSAGE: Boy that was fast! Thanks guys ;-) drop me an email anytime, Scott!
Eddy
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Post# 195-5/22/2001-22:33 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight
MESSAGE: And she's not happy about it one bit. This golden piece of art came from our wonderful trip to Rockford this last weekend.
Of course what you're about to see is temporary, but we can drag it out again during the convention.
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/miscbrands00/lst?&.dir=/quick+share&.src=ph&.view=t&.last=1
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Post# 196-5/22/2001-22:35 ||| Scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight
MESSAGE: LOL, so your jeans have been "spanked" clean. ;-) Was there tangling at the end of the load?
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Post# 197-5/22/2001-22:42 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Unimatic's range pic
MESSAGE: Hi Eddy, I know Scott already replied to your message, but it had a bug because the link was printed in the wrong spot. I just put in a fix and want to see this takes care of it.
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/unimatic1140/vwp?.dir=/Frigidaire&.src=ph&.dnm=Frigidaire+1954+30+Range.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/unimatic1140/lst%3f%26.dir=/Frigidaire%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 198-5/22/2001-22:42 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Unimatic's range pic (WoooHoo)
MESSAGE: It's fixed, another bug bites the dust!
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Post# 199-5/22/2001-22:44 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight (Caught)
MESSAGE: No the jeans weren't tangled, but one of the legs did get caught under one of those flex vanes as I was taking the clothes out of the washer. I was really stuck and I had to reach down and loosen the poor thing.
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Post# 200-5/22/2001-22:45 ||| Scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight (Caught)
MESSAGE: I wondered about that, with no bottom part of the agitator, if things would get caught down there under the post by the "workings".
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Post# 201-5/22/2001-23:04 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight
MESSAGE: Robert, I had a sneeky suspicion you would do this and had been praying you wouldn't I'm glad she didn't like it. But I gotta admit, I never got to see one of these agitators in action, so I'll have to allow myself the experience why conventioning. Somebody get me the smelling salts. I feel faint.
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Post# 202-5/22/2001-23:06 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Unimatic's range pic (WoooHoo)
MESSAGE: Just call you the Orkin man of applianceville!!!
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Post# 203-5/22/2001-23:08 ||| Austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: Just got all signed in. This is great!
MESSAGE: Hi Guys,
Just got all hooked up to "Applianceville." Nice job Robert, This just works so well. Thanks so much agian. Now to go hunt around the site some more.
Todd
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Post# 204-5/22/2001-23:11 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Just got all signed in. This is great! (Welcome Todd)
MESSAGE: Hi Todd, welcome to the club!
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Post# 205-5/22/2001-23:11 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight
MESSAGE: Yes, I immediately recognize the detergent cup cap in pic 5 that's supposed to go on top of the agitator. However, I think it looks more period appropriate on a black scrubber cap, personally.
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Post# 206-5/22/2001-23:54 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight (Caught)
MESSAGE: Question: Why only four pairs for a full load (high water level)? Seems like it should comfortably hold more than that. Four pairs is a medium load in my F&P, and I can get eight pairs in for a full load.
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Post# 207-5/22/2001-23:57 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight
MESSAGE: I recall my one of my aunts had a 1960's Kenmore Series 70 (or maybe was Series 60) with the fat bakelite Rotoswirl, and it had the detergent cup / scrubber cap. Another aunt who had a LK runner-up from the 1970's had the scrubber cap, but I never recall the detergent cup being on it -- it must have gotten lost early in the machine's life. Then when the scrubber got all sticky and grungy, they pulled it off and had only the plastic under-cap.
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Post# 208-5/22/2001-23:59 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Words in parens in subject lines
MESSAGE: What are these words that appear in parens in the subject lines, like "caught" and "woohoo"...where are they coming from?
I just got home from work and came on, and when I went to post this message, I got the cute error message! I won't give it away so everyone can enjoy the fun the first time they get it!
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Post# 209-5/22/2001-00:00 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: oh and...
MESSAGE: what is the difference between "subject" and "subject drift" and does that have to do with the words in parens?
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Post# 210-5/22/2001-00:05 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight (Caught)
MESSAGE: Glen, this is a 9 or 10 pound washer capacity.
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Post# 211-5/22/2001-00:20 ||| Austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: What are the plans for the Yahoo club site?
MESSAGE: Hey Robert,
Are there any plans for the future of the Yahoo club. Will we eventually just abandon it? This seems so much more suited to "our" needs.
Todd
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Post# 212-5/23/2001-04:11 ||| Arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight
MESSAGE: Sorry Uni but that is an UGLY agitator. The Ladys black spriral is just so stylish and elegant. HEy its a shame no one makes those spirals anymore, they always seemed to wash sho well.
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Post# 213-5/23/2001-06:47 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight (Caught)
MESSAGE: Hi Dadoes, with most of my machines 4 jeans is the limit before the turnover stops. With a Frigidaire 3-Ring or 2-Ring Agitator, I can get five to turn over, but usually I just wash four pairs at a time even in the Frigidare. Washing five pairs of jeans in a Frigidaire is hard on the rubber pulsator.
Whirlpool and Kenmore standard capacity machines claimed to have a 14lb capacity, but I don't really believe that.
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Post# 214-5/23/2001-06:50 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Words in parens in subject lines (I'm drifting)
MESSAGE: That's the subject drift Scott. The reason I wrote this into the program was becase so many times when we are posting messages we don't take the time to start a new message when the subject starts to "DRIFT" off of the original subject title. The subject drift box is an optional field to let members add a word or two to the orginal subject line to help make the pink index list a little bit clearer.
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Post# 215-5/23/2001-06:52 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Words in parens in subject lines
MESSAGE: Yes and this "error message" I wrote last night and it isn't a bug YAY. Lets see how many people find it today.
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Post# 216-5/23/2001-06:54 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: What are the plans for the Yahoo club site?
MESSAGE: That's sort of up to everyone in the club to decided Todd. I was a great start for our first 20,000 messages, but we needed something more powerful. I will post in both places until we stop using one or the other.
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Post# 217-5/23/2001-06:56 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight
MESSAGE: Hi Arrrooohhh, welcome to the club, nice to see you here. Is there a particular logo you would like to have scanned for your background wallpaper? If you have an Australian logo you would like, scan and email it to me, I will make turn it into a very light shade of gray and add it to the list of wallpaper choices.
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Post# 218-5/23/2001-07:07 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight
MESSAGE: I was wondering when you would try that agitator. Was the lint filter full when the load was done? I'm surprised to see a measuring cup/cap-top that isn't broken, all the ones I remember from years ago were either broken and long trashed or just plain gone.
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Post# 219-5/23/2001-07:11 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Decisions, Decisons
MESSAGE: OK, we'll the test is going better than I ever imagined. While there will be many enhancements and new features added (and probably a few more bug corrections) to our new club over time, I think its safe to start "officially posting to the club".
Do you guys want to keep our first 200 some messages, or should I delete them tonight and we start fresh at message #1? I'll let you guys decided.
Also I could use a hand in writing the "help" section for Applianceville. Any volunteers? I just need a block text written that explains how to sign-up, login, post new and replied messages, etc. Any help would be appreciated, and this would help make the creation of Applianceville an Applianceville-wide effort.
Let's discuss...
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Post# 220-5/23/2001-07:13 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight (K detergent cups)
MESSAGE: Those cups are still available! You can order them through Sears FSP parts, at least they were available about 6 ago when I purchased a few of them for a wopping $2.95. Later I'll try and get the part # for everyone. The gold scrubber cap was also still available then.
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Post# 221-5/23/2001-07:21 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Decisions, Decisons
MESSAGE: I vote to keep the first 200 messages, but still have an "Official Startup" whenever you are ready. As far as the help section, I vote for Scott! He's a very articulate and accurate typist and would be able to create a great welcome/sign-up guide. Sorry if you don't want the job, Scott - just a natural choice for this!
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Post# 222-5/23/2001-07:22 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight (K detergent cups)
MESSAGE:
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Post# 223-5/23/2001-07:39 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Decisions, Decisons (GO Scott)
MESSAGE: I agree Greg, Scott would be a great choice! Scott no pressure here of course, but feel like writing a help page for using applinceville?
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Post# 224-5/23/2001-07:40 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight (oops)
MESSAGE: Hmmmmm, looks like I also need to write a subroutine to prevent accidental blank posts.
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Post# 225-5/23/2001-07:49 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: What are the plans for the Yahoo club site?
MESSAGE: Unless I've missed something here, Yapoo has the instant messaging (chatting) feature we don't have here.
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Post# 226-5/23/2001-07:54 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion (can't upgrade)
MESSAGE: Can't upgrade here at work until the desktop people "certify" a new version. Sux...
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Post# 227-5/23/2001-07:58 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Driest Spin In Town! (HEY)
MESSAGE: There could be, Greg... Give me time.. :)
-ph
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Post# 228-5/23/2001-08:00 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Unimatic's range pic (link placement)
MESSAGE: Robert: should the link that Scott posted go into the message he replied to?
0ph
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Post# 229-5/23/2001-08:03 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Unimatic's range pic (link placement)
MESSAGE: There you go... You gotta read all posts before you post, or you just trip up all over yourself...
-ph
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Post# 230-5/23/2001-08:08 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight (oh dear)
MESSAGE: The first pics look like an octopus -- or is that a hexopus? But then, after the machine is full, it a very erotic image arrising from the dark water. I'm surprised that housewives everywhere didn't just LOVE this agitator. LOLOLOL
-ph
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Post# 231-5/23/2001-08:11 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight (blank posting)
MESSAGE: Just thought I'd try that - it's happened a couple of times on yahoo and I'd rather have an error message than post a blank mssg.
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Post# 232-5/23/2001-08:11 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Words in parens in subject lines (no login)
MESSAGE: That is WAY cute!!!
-ph
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Post# 233-5/23/2001-08:11 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: New "bug"
MESSAGE: When replying to a previous message, the previous message isn't being quoted in a box below when the reply is posted.
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Post# 234-5/23/2001-08:44 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Libraries and collections
MESSAGE: When will some of the new features be up and running, specifically the collection photo albums? Just curious, as I bought a digital camera last night, and Yahoo seems to be having picture album issues today!
-ph
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Post# 235-5/23/2001-08:45 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Libraries and collections (Westinghouse?)
MESSAGE: Did I pick this wallpaper? I must have had a Perl moment...
-ph
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Post# 236-5/23/2001-08:47 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Libraries and collections (GE)
MESSAGE: in honor of my 6 toploaders at the 'mat... Besides, I don't think anyone tried this one yet.
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Post# 237-5/23/2001-08:50 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Profile screen enhancement
MESSAGE: Not a must-have, but a nice-to-have: A small window to the right of the walpaper popup, such that when you click on a wallpaper choice, you can see the logo you are selecting before saving.
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Post# 238-5/23/2001-08:52 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: What are the plans for the Yahoo club site? (Instant messaging)
MESSAGE: Hi Bob, good point, but can you explain to me how Yahoo Instant messaging works? My only experience with it is this:
About a year ago, I tried turning on instant messaging. That same evening I was uploading pictures to share with you guys when Chad pop in with an instant message asking me "Uni How Do I take apart my new ABC-O-Matic to lubricate it." What that did was to kill my upload and I had trouble getting logged back on after that. I immediately turned Yahoo Messaging off and never turned it back on.
I thought you log into instant messenger and you can instant message anyone else that is logged in to instant messenger? Why couldn't you continue to use that system? Maybe I don't understand it that well.
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Post# 239-5/23/2001-08:55 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight (oh my)
MESSAGE: Naughty boy you! LOL
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Post# 240-5/23/2001-08:57 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Libraries and collections (patience, patience)
MESSAGE: Since we have Yahoo Photos, lets continue to use that for the time being. I going to need to learn more programming on how to write code so everyone can upload stuff to our server. But for now, lets just keep posing our picts to Yahoo, that usually works well.
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Post# 241-5/23/2001-08:58 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: What are the plans for the Yahoo club site?
MESSAGE: So log onto Yahoo's chat program and then come here. I don't thik it's that hard to do and Yahoo works with any web page. Heck, you don't even need a web page up to use Yahoo Chat.
QOTS
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Post# 242-5/23/2001-08:59 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Profile screen enhancement (keeping track)
MESSAGE: We all have such great ideas, that I'm having trouble keeping track of them. I will add a button for suggested enhancements this weekend, that way we can all keep ideas for the site in once place.
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Post# 243-5/23/2001-09:00 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (are you sure)
MESSAGE: Hi Bob, I don't see any sign of this bug, can you post an example of a RE: that isn't showing its the previous text?
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Post# 244-5/23/2001-09:04 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Libraries and collections (YAY)
MESSAGE: Oh, I forgot to say congrats Peter on you new digital camera! YAY will get to see more of your collection now! What kind of Camera did you end up getting?
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Post# 245-5/23/2001-09:25 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Libraries and collections (camera info)
MESSAGE: Sony DSC-S50... An open box special at Micro Center, $407.00... Serial cable missing, so they thru in the memory stick diskette reader thingy, saying it's better than the serial connection. And I can do some short movies with it, so it'll be fun!
Any recommendations for memory stick size? I think this came with a 4mb stick...
-ph
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Post# 246-5/23/2001-09:29 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Libraries and collections (64MB)
MESSAGE: Get the 64MB disk Peter, otherwise you'll be sorry when you run out of space too soon. The 64MB holds 168 pictures at 1024x768 resolution.
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Post# 247-5/23/2001-09:58 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi Everybody!
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, we find it really wonderful to see you here now too. We hope that we will meet you here for many years to come.
QLOTOC
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Post# 248-5/23/2001-10:22 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: Question for Robert
MESSAGE: When I'm reading messages at Yahoo I can easily see what message I have read last, because the links that I have clicked stay red for two weeks (in my case ofcourse, depending on the settings of the browser). That system doesn't seem to work here on this site. Are there others with the same problem? If so, would it be possible to make this site display the reading history? It would be a great help. Louis
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Post# 249-5/23/2001-10:37 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: Hello all of you out there in Appliance-land
MESSAGE: Hey guys! This website is great! I feel like I've moved into a new home. Thanks again Robert for building it!
Rich
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Post# 250-5/23/2001-10:38 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Libraries and collections (camera info)
MESSAGE: Hi Peter,
I have a 4mg thingy in my cam and it works pretty good IF you pull the picts off it often. Mine is set on Standard Resoultion and Better pic quality. With those setting I can get 40 picts to the 4mb card. The card reader is much better and faster than the serial cable connection. I bought one a while ago and love it. If I were you I would watch the prices on the cards and do some serious searching for the best prices. Mostof the time you will find the best price online. I have seen then differ by more that 30 dollars for the same card at different stores.
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Post# 251-5/23/2001-10:49 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Libraries and collections (camera info)
MESSAGE: Jason, Which model camera do you have?
-ph
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Post# 252-5/23/2001-10:50 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: What are the plans for the Yahoo club site? (Instant messaging)
MESSAGE: Robert, sorry for the unfortunate combination of events. I guess another bad hanging chad. Anyway, my system has a missing file that doesn't allow me to download & install full IM. So, I simply click on the person's name on the club I wanna chat with. That particular version is an "abbreviated" (not proper term). I'll have to try another avenue I have in my head as an idea.
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Post# 253-5/23/2001-10:53 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (are you sure)
MESSAGE: Robert, I'll reply to this one. Even my just recent post about Yahoo IM didn't show the reply history & I'm not seeing anybody elses either. The feature was working on Tuesday for me.
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Post# 254-5/23/2001-10:54 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight
MESSAGE: Hey Robert...what fun...I knew this was coming when I saw that Rotoflex in Greg's pictures. Thanks for sharing. We'll definitely have to play "change the agitator" during the convention in whatever machines it is possible. I can't believe there are over 250 posts already...I gotta catch up!
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Post# 255-5/23/2001-10:55 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Question for Robert
MESSAGE: Luigi, I initially had the same concern. Just hit your reload button and it will then show the posts you've read with the "red" color--just like mine does/did.
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Post# 256-5/23/2001-10:58 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (are you sure)
MESSAGE: Robert, it's happening on machine at home & at work. I'm not seeing anybody else's reply history below their reply either. Using Netscape 4.5 & 4.7.
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Post# 257-5/23/2001-11:01 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (are you sure)
MESSAGE: I changed wallpaper--let's see what happens
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Post# 258-5/23/2001-11:02 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (are you sure)
MESSAGE: Oops, having a brunette moment. The "box" is showing up for composing the reply. So, I guess it is working properly. I thought the reply would show up in the actual posted reply. Sorry for the anxt.
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Post# 259-5/23/2001-11:04 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (are you sure)
MESSAGE: But I have to add, when one is reading others' posts, it's hard to determine what post number they're replying to. Am I missing something here then?
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Post# 260-5/23/2001-11:13 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Thats very strange Bob)
MESSAGE: Are you using the vertical scroll bars Bob to scroll down to the bottom of those white reply messages? All the replies have the original message posted in a box below, there all there when I look at it on my screen. BUT, I seem to remember you said you were using 640x480 resoultion. So I changed my monitor over to that resolution and what I found was you have to scroll down in the white area to see the box with the original message text posted in it? At 640x480 it doesn't all fit on one screen. Can this be what's happening Bob? I don't think anything is wrong with the program, since it appears to be working fine. Let me know ASAP, thanks Bob.
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Post# 261-5/23/2001-11:17 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Question for Robert
MESSAGE: Hi Louis, that whole red-message when already red thing has me a bit stumped, it does work when you hit reload, but sometimes they turn back to blue for no apperent reason. I'm researching how that whole system works so I can make them STAY RED like there suppose to.
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Post# 262-5/23/2001-11:19 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight
MESSAGE: Hi Rich, welcome to Applianceville 2. Glad your here!
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Post# 263-5/23/2001-11:43 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Thats very strange Bob)
MESSAGE: Yes Robert, I'm seeing the original post in a box when composing the reply to that specific post. so, that's fine. I just wish that in the actual posts, I'd see something to the effect "message #260, reply to message #241". Incidentally, I'm using 800 X 600 16-bit resolution. Thanks.
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Post# 264-5/23/2001-12:02 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Question for Robert
MESSAGE: That's not really the problem. The problem I have is when I get home from work and want to read all the new messages, they all are blue, including the ones I already have seen.
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Post# 265-5/23/2001-12:07 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Question for Robert
MESSAGE: We will consider giving you a Knighthood when you solve this problem.
QLOTOC
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Post# 266-5/23/2001-12:17 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Can't Be?????)
MESSAGE: BOB once again, I'm not talking about the green message composition screen, I'm talking about the actual WHITE posted reply message with the logos in it. At the VERY BOTTOM (use the scroll bars in the white zone if necessary) is a box with not only the message number but the whole text.
Look at this screen shot of what I'm seeing on 6 different computers. Does everyone else get this reply box at the very bottom of their white reply messages?
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/miscbrands00/vwp?.dir=/quick+share&.dnm=A+Shot+of+My+Screen+-1024x768.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 267-5/23/2001-12:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Reply message view - )
MESSAGE: Maybe I'm mistaken - this is all so new still, but wasn't the orginal message (or a couple of lines) shown in a box at the bottom of the screen when you are just READING posts (not posting a reply to a message, just reading one already on the system) I could be wrong about it appearing in the "read-only" box, but if that's too much work to build, then a button that simply says "this message is in reply to message #xxx by (user name)" that we could use to flip back to the orginal message if needed.
I think the shaded (red) message numbers on yahoo was not only in conjunction with your browser's settings, but also that the message list refreshed each time you went to it or read another posting. The screen reloads each time you move within the message system so you would have the shading of the message numbers each time. Perhaps our system could automatically refresh the top message list each time a move is made to either read, reply or post a message. I think it does do this when you reply or post a message as you are in a different screen anyway and then go back to message list when finished. A couple of times when reading messages, there were more messages posted while I was reading and unless you hit refresh once in a while, you don't get those new ones on the list.
Are you overwhelmed yet Robert? You're doing fantastic - we don't want the whole world in one day, take two days!
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Post# 268-5/23/2001-12:28 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Can't Be?????)
MESSAGE: It's not on mine - I thought I'd seen that before - I'm not crazy!
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Post# 269-5/23/2001-12:31 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Netscape $%&#&@)
MESSAGE: Netscape (the browser from hell) must be at it again. Everything works fine in IE5, I have had not ounce of trouble with IE5. Netscape on the other hand has been very difficult to work with. Tonight I will see what the heck is up with Netscape again and get it to work again, maybe Netscape doesn't like the box around the text, but it worked before??????
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Post# 270-5/23/2001-12:35 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Netscape $%&#&@)
MESSAGE: It is only Netscape - confounded browser!
BTW: I got buzzed - too cute for words!
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Post# 271-5/23/2001-12:39 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Pic of the Day - Bendix Duomatic
MESSAGE: One wonders why the entire family of five is sleeping in the same bed. I'll bet that Duomatic noise scared the crap out of the kids and they ran to their parent's bed!
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Post# 272-5/23/2001-12:50 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Can't Be?????)
MESSAGE: Robert, the answer is no, I'm not seeing what you displayed at your link. All I'm seeing is the reply, with no box underneath it. I even switched to 1024 X 768. Sorry to be such a pain.
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Post# 273-5/23/2001-12:59 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Can't Be?????)
MESSAGE: Robert, well Netscape strikes again. I'm at work. Using 4.5. Now, when I bring up IE 3.02, it's all there, just as it should be. Hmmm.
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Post# 274-5/23/2001-12:59 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Can't Be?????)
MESSAGE: I see all the original messages, including the # in the white screen. Louis
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Post# 275-5/23/2001-13:05 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Netscape $%&#&@)
MESSAGE: Robert, you're right, I just tested reading the messages on Netscape 4.7 and the original messages didn't appear in the white screen. IE5 works fine.
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Post# 276-5/23/2001-14:13 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Libraries and collections (64MB)
MESSAGE: I have the 4 MB that came with the camera, a 16 MB stick, and a 64 MB stick. I ordered the 64 MB on-line from www.provantage.com.
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Post# 277-5/23/2001-14:21 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - Bendix Duomatic
MESSAGE: That is a very strange Bendix ad isn't it? I wonder what the Madison Avenue Advertising executives were thinking when they created that ad?
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Post# 278-5/23/2001-14:27 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Can't Be?????)
MESSAGE: Thanks Bob, ok now I realize what we're dealing with. If you go back into the old posts in Netscape, does the white box and reply text appear before post #192? Another words does the reply boxes stop showing up after post 192? It might have to do with the fix that I put in last night to correct the link showing in the wrong spot on replies. Let me know what you find out. Thanks for your help.
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Post# 279-5/23/2001-14:33 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (no appology necessary)
MESSAGE: No need to appologize Bob, I so appreciate you help and we all need to work together to get applianceville running just the way we like it. The only thing I do ask is that when you guys are describing problems, to be as wordy and specific as possible. There is no such thing as too much information when describing the issues, the more information I get the quicker I might be able to figure out the problem. Thanks guys!
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Post# 280-5/23/2001-14:56 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Can't Be?????)
MESSAGE: The following posts do NOT show the original "boxed" message in Netscape 4.75 --
177 through 180
185
191
195
197 through 199
And I didn't check any further.
176 does show it
181 through 184 do.
186 through 190 do.
192 through 194 do.
196 does.
I thought perhaps it was posts that have links that didn't quote the original message, but those aren't the only ones.
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Post# 281-5/23/2001-14:57 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Can't Be?????)
MESSAGE: And Post #280 itself doesn't, and Post #281 (this one) probably won't either.
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Post# 282-5/23/2001-14:58 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Can't Be?????)
MESSAGE: Robert, I went back, I can see the "stuff" for #190 & prior, but after #190 post, I can't. Bob
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Post# 283-5/23/2001-15:09 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi Everybody!
MESSAGE: Thank you, Your Majesty, 'tis wonderful to see you here too, and I'm sure we will be meeting here for years to come! This posting system works so smoothly and nicely, we just really enjoy it.
QEOM
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Post# 284-5/23/2001-15:10 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Question for Robert
MESSAGE: That would be something to consider if it is possible....I was just reading posts and hadn't logged in, went to reply got the "message" and when I got back in, all the messages had turned to unread status, and fortunately I had remembered I'd left off with Louis' post.
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Post# 285-5/23/2001-15:11 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (OY)
MESSAGE: Careful Dadoes because posts #177-180, 185, 191, 195 are all NEW posts, so there would not be any replies to show. Post#197 and Post#199 should have the reply box, so it does sound like the fix I put in last night at message 192 screwed up Netscape reply boxes. In the words of my grandmother, OY. I bet this might be an easy fix, but I can't do it till I get home, since I don't have Netscape here at work to test it.
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Post# 286-5/23/2001-15:13 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi Everybody! (Yahoo Messenger)
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, we just installed Yahoo messenger (now offline) and received a message from you. We hope you do not mind that we added you to our friendslist and we hope to meet you soon.
Yours sincerely,
QLOTOC
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Post# 287-5/23/2001-15:13 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Libraries and collections (camera info)
MESSAGE: That is a good suggestion Jason....don't go to Best Buy and spend $140 for the memory stick, that is ridiculous. You can usually get them on Ebay and etc. for much less. I don't remember what I paid but it was well under $100 on Ebay.
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Post# 288-5/23/2001-15:16 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Keeping track of which messages you've read
MESSAGE: Hi, I just replied to a message, then afterward it took me to the "top of the list" (not where I had left off reading). So I hit "back" twice and got back to seeing where I was. I wonder if this maybe would have worked also when I was prompted to log in.
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Post# 289-5/23/2001-15:16 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Question for Robert
MESSAGE: Thanks Bob for that suggestion! We all have to help each other learn!
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Post# 290-5/23/2001-15:19 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Can't Be?????)
MESSAGE: Yes Robert, I have been getting that info. on the bottom of each screen. If I didn't mention before, thanks for the explanation on the "parens" thing!
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Post# 291-5/23/2001-15:24 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Netscape $%&#&@)
MESSAGE: For the IE uninitiated: IE = GM Frigidaire Washer
Netscape = beating your clothes on a rock in the river.
I used to get so frustrated that certain things wouldn't even open, refresh, show up or do whatever. I switched about 3 years ago, never looked back, and never again had an ounce of trouble.
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Post# 292-5/23/2001-15:28 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi Everybody! (Yahoo Messenger)
MESSAGE: Absolutely! I am always happy to chat with anyone out there that might like to! Just to let everyone know that it doesn't work here at work, so that only applies to my "at home" hours.
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Post# 293-5/23/2001-15:31 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Decisions, Decisons (GO Scott)
MESSAGE: Yes Robert, I would be happy to "help" out by writing a "help" page. Why don't you email me or something with an outline of topics you'd like to see covered, and I'll start "plugging away"! Isn't it nice to be able to post during the day, LOL. Hopefully your computer office won't catch on to this site!
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Post# 294-5/23/2001-15:42 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Netscape $%&#&@)
MESSAGE: Damn it, I got buzzed again. It is very cute though!!!! Can we have the off balance sound too?? Oh Robert, sweet Robert.....How about putting something in if you can that will automaticaly log us in like with Yahoo and some other sites? I suppose I could remember(really means not be so lazy) to log in everytime I come to the site but it is so much easier just to click the link and be logged in. Oh, and would it be too much trouble to try and make the main message page update by itself? When I am done reading all the posts I have to go back and refresh the page to see new posts.
BTW, I'm not having any problems with IE5.5.
Louis, I think I know what your problem is. This is what happens to me, maybe it's the same with you. When I read the posts without logging in I can see the ones I have already read BUT if I log in all of the one I have read are now marked as unread. So I figure if I log in first than read the posts it should all be marked correctly and stay that way for future log ons.
Jason
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Post# 295-5/23/2001-15:51 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Netscape $%&#&@)
MESSAGE: Hi sweetie, I have not found it necessary to re-login every time I leave and return to the site. So far, the only time I have had to do so is when I go from work to home and vice versa. I wonder if it is set up to last for a certain period of time, like Yahoo?
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Post# 296-5/23/2001-16:17 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (OY)
MESSAGE: Well, hell's bells. That's what I get for doing too many things at once, and not paying proper attention to any of them.
But anyway, at least we have confirmed there is another insect involved.
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Post# 297-5/23/2001-16:43 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: Yeah laundry done for all you combo owners!
MESSAGE: We dual machine types still have to get up and transfer the wash into the dryer.
-dual-machining in boston
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Post# 298-5/23/2001-16:45 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - Bendix Duomatic (Bendix Duo)
MESSAGE: They are playing on the "ALL" detergent line as well as the "Bendix".."all" the familys' wash is done in All while they "all" sleep.
Sillyboyz!
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Post# 299-5/23/2001-17:13 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Yeah laundry done for all you combo owners!
MESSAGE: I thought you had a combo Jon - who has the Easy combo?
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Post# 300-5/23/2001-17:35 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - Bendix Duomatic (Bendix Duo)
MESSAGE: Well, you know what they say---all's well that ends well.
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Post# 301-5/23/2001-17:38 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Netscape $%&#&@)
MESSAGE: Well, here are a few observations I've made. With IE, when I hit refresh, the "read" links return to the "unread" state. Also, if I exit a browser, I have to re-login when I come back to the site, even if it's 3 minutes later. With Netscape, by "read" links stay "read".
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Post# 302-5/23/2001-17:43 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Yeah laundry done for all you combo owners!
MESSAGE: It's John Eichenger who has the Easy Combo, he lives over in West St. Paul Bendixboy 56.
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Post# 303-5/23/2001-17:47 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Can't Be?????)
MESSAGE: thanks Scott!- Give me a few minutes guys, I'm fixing the bug!
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Post# 304-5/23/2001-18:12 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - Bendix Duomatic
MESSAGE: I could be a subliminal ad for Orthonovum as well!
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Post# 305-5/23/2001-18:13 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - Bendix Duomatic
MESSAGE: IT not I - hee hee!
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Post# 306-5/23/2001-18:14 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Libraries and collections (camera info)
MESSAGE: Hi Peter,
My brother has the dsc s30. Got it for $300 on line. Including the 64mg card. It's super and the 64mg card is a great way to go. I don't know that I'd spend the extra on the dsc s50, unless you want to take advantage of the movie mod. Check prices on Cnet.com and ebay.
Todd
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Post# 307-5/23/2001-18:19 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Ding Dong the Bug is Dead
MESSAGE: Hey guys, one html tag in placed in the wrong spot made Netscape choke on those reply boxes. I fixed the code and edited over 100 messages.
Most people will not have to bother with the following instructions: If your still not seeing the reply boxes you will have to clear your Netscape memory by selecting FILE...PREFERENCES...Click on the + next to the ADVANCED outline bar and select CACHE. On the Right side of the frame click the CLEAR MEMORY BUTTON and the CLEAR CACHE BUTTON.
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Post# 308-5/23/2001-18:25 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Ding Dong the Bug is Dead (A Bug Story)
MESSAGE: In one of my many technical manuals that I've been reading to create this website, there was the interesting story about how we came to call computer glitches bugs:
In 1945, Grace Hopper (she probably was washing in a wringer washer the poor dear) was a programmer working at Harvard University on the Mark II, one of the first large-scale computers. One day, a system that had been working suddenly stopped. She researched the problem and was able to find the cause--a moth inside the computer. She pasted the "bug" inside the system logbook, and computer problems have been called "bugs" ever since!
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Post# 309-5/23/2001-18:27 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Libraries and collections (camera info)
MESSAGE: Hi Peter,
I have the Kodak DC215. Not a bad little toy and the price was just right!
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Post# 310-5/23/2001-18:28 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Ding Dong the Bug is Dead (A Bug Story)
MESSAGE: Robert, per your instructions, it's working here.
Thanks.
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Post# 311-5/23/2001-18:30 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Decisions, Decisons (GO Scott)
MESSAGE: Hi Scott, all we need is some simple text for how to use Applianceville. Such as how to sign up, how to log on, how to read the posts and how to use the pink index pages. Thanks for your help.
We can place the help button on the initial white page where the three bullets show up now when you first arrive in Applianceville.
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Post# 312-5/23/2001-18:33 ||| Whirlpool (San Diego)
SUBJECT: Wow this is totally awesome
MESSAGE: Very nice job Robert. Love the colors...
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Post# 313-5/23/2001-18:38 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Netscape $%?&@)
MESSAGE: We'll that's a very interesting thing Jason. For one thing, I cannot for the life of me get the browser to save members password once you leave applianceville. I haven't given up yet, I'll get it, if it kills me, but it's going to take some more research.
As for the Refreshment, on all my computers it DOES automatically when you post a new post or reply to a new post as well as when you hit the next button in the pink index, all the new posts show up. But for Jetcone, his computer does not automatically refresh, so I have a feeling the problem is two fold. First I have not quite figured out how to make the program automatically refresh on everyones computer, second I believe there are internal settings in your browser that effect this type of automatic refresh. Play with them a little bit Jason and tell me what you come up with. If your an IE user, I would upgrade to IE5.5, it seems to automatically refresh in IE5.5.
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Post# 314-5/23/2001-18:42 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Wow this is totally awesome
MESSAGE: We'll hi Steven, welcome to the Club!
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Post# 315-5/23/2001-18:43 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Half Baked Laundry Ideas
MESSAGE: Check out this cute site I stumbled upon - some very "laundry challenged" people out there in cyber-land!
LINK: http://www.halfbakery.com/category/Home:%20Laundry
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Post# 316-5/23/2001-18:50 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Decisions, Decisons (GO Scott)
MESSAGE: k. :)
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Post# 317-5/23/2001-19:09 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Decisions, Decisons (GO Scott)
MESSAGE: thanks Scott!
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Post# 318-5/23/2001-20:09 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Netscape $%&#&@)
MESSAGE: Jason, first thing I do is to log in, but next time I log in, I can't see which message I have seen last. I also noticed that sometimes messages are marked red, that I haven't read yet. It's when I press the Previous button. Last message I read was 274. When I reloaded I came above 300. Number 300 was red and when I pressed Previous also 299 was red. Louis
LINK: and there's more
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Post# 319-5/23/2001-20:11 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Half Baked Laundry Ideas
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg for the link, very amusing. BTW, there are toploading dryers in Europe.
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Post# 320-5/23/2001-21:03 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: Voompah! Voompah!
MESSAGE: LOVE THAT LIVE WATER ACTION!!!
Jetcone
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Post# 321-5/23/2001-21:10 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Netscape $%?&@)
MESSAGE: Hi Robert,
I'll check different settings but I already have IE5.5 with all the updates and service packs. Who knows......
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Post# 322-5/23/2001-21:13 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Netscape $%&#&@)
MESSAGE: That is strange Louis. For the most part it works for me. I just have to remember to hit refresh everytime I post or reply to a post so I can see that it has gone up there.
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Post# 323-5/23/2001-21:15 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Netscape $%&#&@)
MESSAGE: Now I think I have lost it. When I posted post #321 it did not refresh on it's own. I had to hit refresh. Now that I just replied to your post #322 it refreshed all by itself. Strange. I think there may be a gremlin in here.
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Post# 324-5/23/2001-21:16 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Voompah! Voompah! (Refresh the Home Page Everyone!)
MESSAGE: There's a new surprise waiting for you...
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Post# 325-5/23/2001-21:16 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Netscape $%&#&@)
MESSAGE: Ok, I have not lost it!! It just did it again. Time to find the gremlin!
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Post# 326-5/23/2001-21:17 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Voompah! Voompah! (Refresh the Home Page Everyone!)
MESSAGE: I love it Robert!!!! That is just wonderful!!!
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Post# 327-5/23/2001-21:18 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (refreshing)
MESSAGE: now i am trying to reply and see if this refreshes my screen---here goes jet
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Post# 328-5/23/2001-21:22 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Yeah laundry done for all you combo owners! (Greg...)
MESSAGE: Greg: I have two busted combos that neither John or Uni will fix so here i sit with dirty laundry in the morning......
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Post# 329-5/23/2001-21:43 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Voompah! Voompah! (Refresh the Home Page Everyone!)
MESSAGE: OH MY!! I was wondering what was taking so long to load (I'm on a 56K dial-up ... a brief pause, for fill I suppose, and then the pulsation beings. Wonderful!
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Post# 330-5/23/2001-21:44 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Voompah! Voompah! (Refresh the Home Page Everyone!)
MESSAGE: geeze, keyboard malfunction.
"and then the pulsation BEGINS."
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Post# 331-5/23/2001-22:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Yeah laundry done for all you combo owners! (Greg...)
MESSAGE: What kind are they?
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Post# 332-5/23/2001-22:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Voompah! Voompah! (Refresh the Home Page Everyone!)
MESSAGE: How cool - you have such a head for knowing this computer stuff!
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Post# 333-5/23/2001-23:16 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Voompah! Voompah! (Refresh the Home Page Everyone!)
MESSAGE: Oh.....I love this site!
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Post# 334-5/23/2001-23:21 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: 54 Speed Queen Restoration Begins
MESSAGE: I spent some time tonight on the '54 Speed Queen washer as I can't wait to see it running again. As you may have guessed, after 25 years of sitting on the showroom floor unused, it needs a bit of work. I took a couple of pics of the problems I've started work on for you guys to see. I also scanned a page from the SQ shop service manual for a better view of the motor & fluid drive/clutch assembly.
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/surgilator/lst?&.dir=/1954+Speed+Queen+A12+Restoration&.src=ph&.view=t&.last=1
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Post# 335-5/23/2001-23:39 ||| Austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: 54 Speed Queen Restoration Begins
MESSAGE: Way to go Greg! She looks very good underneath. Nice and clean. If you find burned contacts in the time, you can polish them nicely with 400grit wet and dry sand paper. I like the fluid drive system. Very cool.
Todd
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Post# 336-5/23/2001-00:33 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 54 Speed Queen Restoration Begins
MESSAGE: Wow...whatever problems you come across, the machine looks remarkably good underneath for a machine its age. Thanks for sharing the beginning of your progress with us!
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Post# 337-5/23/2001-01:13 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: 54 Speed Queen Restoration Begins
MESSAGE: You're right, Scott. It's in the most pristine shape I've ever seen. Aren't the pictures fun? Thanks Greg and I hope she's up and running soon.
Eddy
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Post# 338-5/24/2001-02:29 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Netscape $%&#&@)
MESSAGE: Jason, that's very strange too, most of the time I see the new posts without hitting the refresh button.
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Post# 339-5/24/2001-06:47 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 54 Speed Queen Restoration Begins (COOL!)
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg, wonderful pictures. We're all looking forward to the SQ's first premier wash load! The new pump looks great and you can easily get a brand new timer for the machine at Midwest Timer Service in Benton Harbor, MI. Did you take a test cord and place the leads on the spin solenoid and plug the test cord in? If the solenoid is OK, it should engage right into spin.
Even though Ray has said when the machines had been dropped off, at his store, over 25 years ago that they were working fine and I would bet that they were at that time. But a washer sitting around for 25 years is like a car sitting idle for many years. Usually a few components stop working from just lack of use over that time.
We're hungry for more restoration pics, keep 'em coming. Thanks again Greg.
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Post# 340-5/24/2001-07:05 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Question for Robert (viewing previously read msgs in red)
MESSAGE: Where, please, is this button and when do I mash it? Tom
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Post# 341-5/24/2001-07:10 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Question for Robert (Reload Button)
MESSAGE: Morning Tom, I think you said you were running in Netscape. The refresh button that they are referring to is called "Reload", its the thrid button from the left underneath the FILE...EDIT...VIEW...etc, menu bar at the top of your screen.
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Post# 342-5/24/2001-07:15 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - Bendix Duomatic (Bendix Duomatic)
MESSAGE: Greg, I figured that the family went to bed after it went into dry. By the way, were you kidding about having a collection of window AC units (post 37)? We have some and there are still one or two that I am looking for. Tom
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Post# 343-5/24/2001-07:22 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - Bendix Duomatic (Bendix Duomatic)
MESSAGE: Yes, I was playing around with the log-in/profile features about a month ago when Robert first brought the site online and entered all the window air info for fun. I remember some that I've seen over the years and a Philco that we used to have when I was little - some very neat machines out there. What do you have and what are looking for. I occasionally see some at sales, etc. but don't know much about them.
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Post# 344-5/24/2001-08:11 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Question for Robert (reload overload)
MESSAGE: Thank you, Robert. Tom
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Post# 345-5/24/2001-08:26 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - Bendix Duomatic (window ac units)
MESSAGE: Greg, John has a couple of the old Sears auto dehumidify units. I am looking for the old style GEs that were tall and not so deep (dated someone like that once) and in the mid-late 50s WH made a really neat unit that was shaped like the GE. Neighbors of ours had three of them. They used flat fan blades that looked like lawn mower blades, both for the evaporator and the condenser. The inside grill on the WH was a beige egg crate design with 4 square louvers in a line, one large dial in the lower left and the small thermostat knob below that. The outside grill had like 6 sections of louvers, some of which were angled opposite to their neighbors. I have one of the GEs, the cheapest one fan speed model, but am looking for one of the more deluxe ones with the pretty grill. Tom
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Post# 346-5/24/2001-08:31 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: Maytag rubber ring part #
MESSAGE: I think Jason or someone mentioned something about this to me, but I found the part no. for the rubber ring that goes at the base of the stainless steel lint filters. The part is MAY211667. I paid a whopping $1.52 for each of them 3 years ago. I think Jason said it made the turquoise plastic filters work better too. Tom
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Post# 347-5/24/2001-08:43 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: 54 Speed Queen Restoration Begins (PIX!!)
MESSAGE: Yes Greg MORE pix I am dying to see the tub and agitator!!!
Jet.
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Post# 348-5/24/2001-08:49 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Yeah laundry done for all you combo owners! (Combo Types)
MESSAGE: Greg I have a 1970 Lady Kenmore in Root Beer that John & I have been working on for 10 YEARS to try and get going again. And John gave me a 1967 GE Combo that works but is VERY LOUD. I have installed it in my new kitchen but am going to rebuild it this summer. Steve118 gave me one of those Chinese machines but another friend came up from COnnecticut and was swooning over it so I had to let him have it.
Jon
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Post# 349-5/24/2001-08:54 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: Now I get it where the Bendix is!
MESSAGE: I was looking at that ad and wondering where the heck they were all sleeping-------a room in the basement perhaps??? And WHY? But those combos were always advertised in the bathroom and that is a tile floor it is on. So its in the bathroom on the second floor. Tom is right WHO could sleep through one of those cycles, like the old dishwashers SWOOSH SWOOSH! We used to run our GE D/W right after dinner so we could watch our prime time shows without that ROARING in the background!
jon
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Post# 350-5/24/2001-09:18 ||| Estate-sale-gar (Golden Valley, MN)
SUBJECT: Back from the Dead - remember me, guys?
MESSAGE: It's been a while since Rob Seger and I've gone to sales on Saturday but I'll there this weekend...I'm glad that all of you like the Saturday pics! Rob, Scott and I have alot of fun posing for the pics! You should see the pictures that are edited out! I've heard so much about you guys from Rob...hopefully, I'll get to meet you all sometime! Rob...this site is IMPRESSIVE!
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Post# 351-5/24/2001-09:22 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag rubber ring part #
MESSAGE: Yes it does make the turquoise filters work much better. Another thing I did was to wrap the bottom of the filter with black tape covering up the little slits in the plastic and it also makes for a tighter seal so all the water passing thru actually gets filtered.
Jason
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Post# 352-5/24/2001-09:25 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Back from the Dead - remember me, guys? (Hi Gary)
MESSAGE: Welcome to the club, lets think Apex's and Redwing Dishes for the upcoming sales on Saturday!
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Post# 353-5/24/2001-09:43 ||| Estate-sale-gar (Golden Valley, MN)
SUBJECT:
MESSAGE:
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Post# 354-5/24/2001-10:46 ||| Estate-sale-gar (Golden Valley, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: Back from the Dead - remember me, guys? (Hi Gary)
MESSAGE: Sorry for the blank message....I've got fat fingers.
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Post# 355-5/24/2001-10:50 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Question for Robert (viewing previously read msgs in red)
MESSAGE: Tom, it's on my netscape navigaton toolbar. It says "reload". It's the same as "refresh" for Explorer
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Post# 356-5/24/2001-10:59 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Back from the Dead - remember me, guys?
MESSAGE: Gary, I'm glad you're with us. Welcome. And BTW, you'll get to meet about 15 of us in August when we come for the convention. And yes, your Saleing presence, or lack thereof, has been noted. Hope all is well with y'all.
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Post# 357-5/24/2001-11:13 ||| RobGwisdala (Troy Ohio 45373)
SUBJECT: Rotoflex agitator in 18lb capacity machines.
MESSAGE: Hello Everyone.
I just saw the pictures of the Rotoflex agitator in Robert's 1957 Lady Kenmore 14lb capacity machine.
Those pictures were fantastic! The Rotoflex agitator looks like it has a lot of cleaning power!
Could somebody try out the Rotoflex agitator in their 18lb capacity washer? I want to see what would happen in a "large capacity" washer.
Thank you.
Rob
ps= Robert, Thank you for building this website. I am enjoying it very much!
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Post# 358-5/24/2001-11:22 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Rotoflex agitator in 18lb capacity machines. (large capacity machines)
MESSAGE: Hi Rob, welcome to the club, your very welcome. I don't have any large capacity Kenmore machines in my collection, so I cannot try out your suggestion. Come to think of it I don't have any large capacity machines, except for my 12lb Frigidaire Coin-Op, but with the Deep-Action agitator in it you really can't consider that large capacity without putting in a 3-ring agitator.
You could definately consider the Whirlpool Combo a large capacity machine, but only for washing.
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Post# 359-5/24/2001-11:58 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - Bendix Duomatic (window ac units)
MESSAGE: Tom, do you have those things called "Evaporative Coolers" in Georgia? How are they different from an air conditioner? They seem to have them all over Arizona. Scott
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Post# 360-5/24/2001-12:09 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Wisk Tablets/Cascade
MESSAGE: Greg had given me a sample package of Wisk detergent tablets, and I tried one yesterday in a white load of clothes (at his guidance I used 1 tablet in my vintage standard capacity machine, and one seems to be just right for this size machine). It did a great job! Can't beat it for easy; I have a feeling these will be popular amongst the laundromat crowd...
Can someone tell what the difference is between Cascade "Clean (Clear?) Rinse Formula, and Cascade Complete, and why one might choose one over the other? My friend bought a box of the former, attached to which was a sample of the latter, which he gave to me. Last time I bought d/w detergent, there was only one kind. Scott
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Post# 361-5/24/2001-12:32 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Wisk Tablets/Cascade
MESSAGE: Hi Scott
I got a free sample of those Wisk tablets a long time ago and almost threw them out because I thought they were high-sudsing. Someone on the club said they were low-sudsing, so I tried them and liked the results. I picked up a box of 60 on sale for $3.99 this past weekend. They remind me of the Salvo tablets my mom used in her Laundromat for so many years. I just use one in my front-loader also.
Speaking of Wisk...I remember that original Wisk formula (liquid) that came out (late 50's I think) was VERY high sudsing. My grandmother tried it once in her 55 Frig Imperial, and that combined with the fact that she had a water-softening system, produced so many suds that they were coming through the opening in the lid handle. So much for ring around the collar.
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Post# 362-5/24/2001-12:45 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Rotoflex agitator in 18lb capacity machines.
MESSAGE: Hi Rob,
I have one coming down to me from John. Unfortunatly it would not fit into my suitcase so as soon as I get it I will put it in the machine and take some picts for everyone to see.
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Post# 363-5/24/2001-12:55 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - Bendix Duomatic (window ac units)
MESSAGE: Hi Scott,
When I live in Santa Fe I had one in both my houses. It is a big metal box with a water pump, 4 media pads that are actually hog hair filters, a large blower and tubes with jets on them.
What happens is the pump pumps the water up through the tubes to the top of the cabinet and down through the filter pads. The suction from the fan causes air to be pulled through the wet pads causing high evaporation cooling the air. It really is a very simple machine. Even on the hotest day, in a house with minimal insulation I was able to keep the house at 72 degrees.
You can either have the unit hooked up to a water valve for automatic filling of the water as it evaporates or you can fill it manualy. I converted mine from manual fill to automatic. I just could not see climbing on the roof in my house dress to fill the sump on the cooler.
After a few months you need replace or clean the pads because they get dusty and mineral build up from the water. I also put a special tablet in mine to keep the water from going bad and smelling the house up.
Jason
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Post# 364-5/24/2001-13:03 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Back from the Dead - remember me, guys?
MESSAGE: Welcome Gary - sorry to have missed you on Saleing Saturday several weeks ago when I was up there. Have you found any more lovely couches?
Hope to see you next time - Greg
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Post# 365-5/24/2001-13:09 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - Bendix Duomatic (window ac units)
MESSAGE: When I lived in Arizona, there was one of these in my father's winter home. I got there in August and it was HOT! I revved this cooler up once and didn't know that you need to leave a few windows open. Being in the desert, it cools off at night quite a bit and when I woke in the morning, the walls, windows, furniture - everything was wet with condensation from the cooler. That was only time I tried it - after that it was air conditioning for me!
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Post# 366-5/24/2001-13:11 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 54 Speed Queen Restoration Begins (PIX!!)
MESSAGE: I did post a pic that was sent to me by the guy who had them of the tub and agitator.
http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/surgilator/vwp?.dir=/May+2001++-++A+Speed+Queen+Story&.src=ph&.dnm=Inside+54+SQ+washer.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/surgilator/lst%3f%26.dir=/May%2b2001%2b%2b-%2b%2bA%2bSpeed%2bQueen%2bStory%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 367-5/24/2001-13:12 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 54 Speed Queen Restoration Begins (Here are the pix!)
MESSAGE: Links obviously have to be in the link box! Let's try again...
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/surgilator/vwp?.dir=/May+2001++-++A+Speed+Queen+Story&.src=ph&.dnm=Inside+54+SQ+washer.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/surgilator/lst%3f%26.dir=/May%2b2001%2b%2b-%2b%2bA%2bSpeed%2bQueen%2bStory%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 368-5/24/2001-13:15 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Back from the Dead - remember me, guys?
MESSAGE: Hi Gary, welcome to the club. Were you ever a member of the Yoohoo club or are you our first really new member? I guess we will be seeing you during the washer convention? Louis
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Post# 369-5/24/2001-13:37 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Wisk Tablets/Cascade
MESSAGE: Hi Rich, that's interesting to hear that they work well in the Frig. f/l. I got just a little foam on top of the water. I was very pleased with it and would use it again!
Funny how that Wisk was the only liquid all those years and now there are so many of them! I don't think we ever used it, but I always liked the commercials, LOL.
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Post# 370-5/24/2001-13:40 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - Bendix Duomatic (window ac units)
MESSAGE: Thanks for that explanation, Jason! Sounds like a pretty good deal, esp. in areas where one needs cooling so much of the time. Are they more cost/energy efficient than using a regular central a/c? I noticed most people had them on their roofs, and some sitting in the back yard like the central air thingys.
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Post# 371-5/24/2001-13:43 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - Bendix Duomatic (window ac units)
MESSAGE: It's actually a little more energy efficent because you don't have a compressor. But as was said before , you do have to leave a window open a few inches. You can even get a thermostst for it so that it turns on and off by itself.
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Post# 372-5/24/2001-13:43 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Back from the Dead - remember me, guys?
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, we explained to Gary long ago that your state visit would necessitate a personal greeting to you by him. We shall be here to see that he carries forth this mandatory request by the queen of his land.
QEOM
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Post# 373-5/24/2001-14:10 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Back from the Dead - remember me, guys?
MESSAGE: I think we alkl want a greeting by Gary, if not the case, I wannabe included in the greeting too.
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Post# 374-5/24/2001-14:49 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Rotoflex agitator in 18lb capacity machines. (= PentaSwirl/Vane)
MESSAGE: It probably washes no better or worse than the PentaSwirl or PentaVane agitators for the belt-drive Kenmores...
-ph
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Post# 375-5/24/2001-14:52 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - Bendix Duomatic (swamp coolers)
MESSAGE: Aren't these also known as Swamp Coolers? I have been kinda eyeing them for my 'mat. With all the dryers, having AC in a 'mat is kinda silly, especially since they are talking about electric rates increasing this summer. Grainger has several "portable" models in their catalog.
-ph
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Post# 376-5/24/2001-14:53 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Wisk Tablets/Cascade (Wisk)
MESSAGE: Wisk tablets will disolve in the FL dispenser while Tide does not. Either way, I council my customers to put tablets in the washer with the clothes, so there is no doubt where all the detergent ends up.
-ph
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Post# 377-5/24/2001-15:13 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: All you gotta do is ask!
MESSAGE: I just got off the phone with the biggest appliance recycler in the area. He finally decided to meet with me face-to-face to hear what I'm looking for! His company picks up all the used appliances from delivery services from Sears, Home Depot, Lowes, and a few other major retailers, moving about 2,000 pieces a week! This only adds to the fun of the hunt!
-ph
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Post# 378-5/24/2001-15:16 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - Bendix Duomatic (swamp coolers)
MESSAGE: Yuppers. They are not to be used where humidity control is a problem, because as mentioned in a previous post, they ADD humidity, unlike a "regular" air conditioner which removes it.
Evaporative coolers save on electricity because they only have the small fan motor and water pump running, and not a kilowatt-chugging compressor.
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Post# 379-5/24/2001-15:18 ||| estate-sale-gar (Golden Valley, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: Back from the Dead - remember me, guys?
MESSAGE: All of this pressure...what do I wear to a Washer Convention? Rob...what kind of washer and dryer to I have? Suddenly, I feel a tad bit intimidated. Yes Louis...I am new to the club. Rob called me today and showed me how to register.
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Post# 380-5/24/2001-15:25 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - Bendix Duomatic (swamp coolers)
MESSAGE: That makes sense then...it's hot there but typically very dry, very unlike Minnesota and a few other places I've heard or can think of....
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Post# 381-5/24/2001-15:27 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Back from the Dead - remember me, guys?
MESSAGE: Gary, you have a 1979 Montgomery Ward (Norge) set. Your usual estate sale attire you'll find will do you nicely for appliance conventions, greeting royalty, and the like. I'm very glad you have joined the club. My gosh, I haven't seen you in eons!
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Post# 382-5/24/2001-15:28 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Back from the Dead - remember me, guys?
MESSAGE: Gary, you have a 1979 Montgomery Ward (Norge) set. Your usual estate sale attire you'll find will do you nicely for appliance conventions, greeting royalty, and the like. I'm very glad you have joined the club. My gosh, I haven't seen you in eons!
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Post# 383-5/24/2001-15:35 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Back from the Dead - remember me, guys?
MESSAGE: Scott, I remembered Gary had the Monkey Wards burp-ups. Remember, I said I wanted to see them too?
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Post# 384-5/24/2001-15:36 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Wisk Tablets/Cascade
MESSAGE: Scott, Mike in Maine has used the Wisk tabs and loves them. I've not used them yet. As for the Cascade, the Complete is super for very heavy soiled stuff. I find it did a bit better on my sat-for-days oatmeal bowls than the electrasol powder. For what it's worth, CR's comments on the two formulas, had the Complete have better food redeposit results than the Clean Rinse formula. Also, they determined etching was less of an issue with the Complete version. FWIW.
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Post# 385-5/24/2001-15:39 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Wisk Tablets/Cascade
MESSAGE: Thanks Bob! I'm guessing this "Clean Rinse" is something akin to what was once simply called "Cascade" then? I will have to try the sample my friend gave me sometime and see how I like it. Scott
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Post# 386-5/24/2001-15:57 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: All you gotta do is ask! (WOW)
MESSAGE: Peter, this could be a really good lead!! When I look into my crystal ball I see a Unimatic in your future. My recycler has found me at least 11 or so of my best machines, including the '49 and '55 Frigidaire's, my '52 Filtrator and my fabulous new westy set.
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Post# 387-5/24/2001-16:10 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Back from the Dead - remember me, guys?
MESSAGE: Gary, I don't think there is any dresscode, but I bet at a washer convention there are going to be a few t-shirts and sweat shirts with appliance brand names on them.
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Post# 388-5/24/2001-17:40 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: 30" Frigidaire Flaire in High Springs Florida on ebay
MESSAGE: Hey Jason, a 30" single-oven Flaire on ebay. Initial bid $300. Looks in great shape. Even has rotis stuff. White.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1238371161
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Post# 389-5/24/2001-19:56 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: All you gotta do is ask! (Santa is coming!)
MESSAGE: Start making your list - when you have your fill, we'll post our lists too!
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Post# 390-5/24/2001-20:06 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: 386, 387 and 388-bug?
MESSAGE: Have these three messages disappeared from anyone else's screen? They still appear in the archives.
I have a good start on writing our help section, I should finish up between now and the weekend!
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Post# 391-5/24/2001-20:26 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 386, 387 and 388-bug?
MESSAGE: Ah, they're back now!
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Post# 392-5/24/2001-20:33 ||| RobGwisdala (Troy Ohio 45373)
SUBJECT: 1976-1995 Kenmore Logo.
MESSAGE: Hi Robert,
Could you post the 1976-1995 Kenmore logo for the personal wallpaper background?
Thank you.
Rob
ps= I want to use the 1976-1995 logo for my wallpaper.
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Post# 393-5/24/2001-20:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1976-1995 Kenmore Logo.
MESSAGE: Rob, I can't find any picture of that logo to scan, maybe if someone out there in Applianceville has it they can scan it and post it to their Yahoo Photo Album. I can capture it off of there and make it into wallpaper for you.
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Post# 394-5/24/2001-22:36 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1976-1995 Kenmore Logo. (Surprise)
MESSAGE: Actually Rob, after doing some looking, I found the 1980's Kenmore logo on a service manual. It's now all set-up in the system and ready for you. I would demonstrate it myself, but I just couldn't bring myself to do it! LOL
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Post# 395-5/24/2001-23:20 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: 1976-1995 Kenmore Logo. (Surprise)
MESSAGE: Well, Robert, I'll give it a go. Just for the fun of it.
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Post# 396-5/24/2001-23:22 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: 1976-1995 Kenmore Logo. (Surprise)
MESSAGE: But, I think I like the super rotoswirl better.
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Post# 397-5/25/2001-02:10 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: Hey Robert, How's the radar range working?
MESSAGE: I was wondering if you put your Amana into service and how you liked it?
Todd
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Post# 398-5/25/2001-06:39 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Question for Robert (reload/refresh)
MESSAGE: Thanks, Bob.
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Post# 399-5/25/2001-06:47 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hey Robert, How's the radar range working?
MESSAGE: Hi Todd, yes the day I brought my Amana Radar Range home I took my 1000 watt Kenmore and put it in the Attic. I was a bit concerned that the 700 watt Amana would be a lot slower and the performance would not be up to par of the 1000 watt machine, but I was wrong. I'm very happy with the Amana. It's only slightly slower and and certainly look much nicer in my vintage kitchen. As a matter of fact I found a new glass tray for it last Saturday in Rockford which was perfect because the one that came with it was chipped.
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Post# 400-5/25/2001-06:50 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: The Dependability People Made a Mistake!
MESSAGE: Anyone notice the glaring error in today's picture of the day? I never noticed this until this morning when I re-read the text of that scan.
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Post# 401-5/25/2001-06:55 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: Getting the hang off this
MESSAGE: Slowly getting used to this. And you guys are all going so fast I cant keep up with you. Doesnt help that when I am usually on line you are usually in bed!!!
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Post# 402-5/25/2001-07:01 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Getting the hang off this (Morning and Evening)
MESSAGE: Hi arrrooohhh, as you can see its just a few minutes before 7am in the middle of the United States. Out of curiosity what time is it over in Sydney right now?
You seem to be getting around the site just fine, do you have any questions on how to use Applianceville or Classicappliances.com?
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Post# 403-5/25/2001-07:03 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - Bendix Duomatic (Swamp coolers)
MESSAGE: Scott, swamp coolers only work in areas of very low humidity. They are pretty useless here except in agricultural applications. They are great for keeping green houses cooler than the outside air and very moist during the warmer months. While mechanical air conditioning uses either a compressor or an adsorption system to move heat from one side of the system to another, the evaporative cooler relies on hot dry air evaporating water from a moist medium in the large outside part. The evaporation process causes the air to give up heat because you are changing water from a liquid to a vapor and that is a change of state that absorbs heat. The heat is used to transfer moisture from the wet medium to the air. The cooler air then has more humidity than the dry outside air. It is just like in a dryer: the temperature of the load stays relatively low while there is moisture to be evaporated except, of course, in some supercharged dryers where the heat source is so great that the temperature in the chamber is high from the beginning. Once the load becomes dry, the temperature soars. This is what makes time temp auto dry controls work. At first the heater needs to be on all the time to evaporate water and while the heater is operating the timer does not move. As the load gets drier, less and less heat is called for the timer runs more because the heater is off more until finally the timer shuts everything off. While you were out there, did you go to restuarants or clubs that had the micro mist cooling systems in the outdoor area? Tom
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Post# 404-5/25/2001-07:11 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight (Thanks Uni)
MESSAGE: Hi Uni, no need to go to too much trouble. One of my all time fave washers are hoover - till email ruined them( The company that is, the washers are not bad!) So a hoover logo would do nicely thanx!
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Post# 405-5/25/2001-07:13 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: Hoover VS Dyson vacuum cleaners
MESSAGE: I was reading a Choice test today on Vacuums. The Hoover self propelled Windtunnel came first. The Dyson came last. Dyson now outsells Hoover. A Triumph of marketing over substance hey??? Anyway for years vacuums have been known as "Hoovers" are we going to hear of them in the future as "Dysons"? I sincerely hope not!
BTW the suction performance scores were
Hoover 75%
Dyson 27%
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Post# 406-5/25/2001-07:18 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: Picture of the day
MESSAGE: Is there going to be an archive of the Picture of the day?
I would love to print them all but I dont get to log on everyday.
Website is looking good!
I tried to search "Classic Appliances" and "washing Machines" on Altavista and Yahoo but didnt get this link? When and how does that all work?
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Post# 407-5/25/2001-07:24 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: The Dependability People Made a Mistake!
MESSAGE: Could it be the "Gyratator Rinse"? Actually, that is correct. All through the Maytag wringer washer parts manual the agitators are called Gyratators in all of the parts listings - kind of a strange name, but I've seen it in old ads too.
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Post# 408-5/25/2001-07:24 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Wisk Tablets/Cascade (Wisk tablets)
MESSAGE: Rich, I took some Wisk tablets on the FL trip since I would not have all of my laundering aids and thought it would be a good test. I used two in a standard cap WP TL and the peppermint press stuff came out great with no pretreating. I had purchased this on sale and with a coupon; otherwise, at first glance, they look pretty expensive like all the rest of the HE detergents. But,if you read the outside label of the powdered Tide HE carefully, the number of loads is based on filling the scoop to only the very first line, way down hear the bottom of the measure for medium size moderately soiled loads so a 47 load box is just that. The thing that can make the Wisk tablets a good bargain in FLs is that I get double the number of washes advertized on the box because I am only using one tablet so a 30 load box becomes 60, not that the box tells you to do this. That might not work for larger, more heavily soiled loads that many families would have. For traveling laundry queens, though, the tablets are very convenient to carry and offer great results. Talk about old Wisk and suds, or even the current liquid and suds, back in the 60s a friend of ours with a LK combo tried Wisk on her husband's shirt collars. She almost had a white out in her kitchen. Tom
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Post# 409-5/25/2001-07:28 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the day
MESSAGE: I tried to find this site on a search engine the other day by entering "classic appliances" and got this site info and link, but when I tried to use the link, I got to a heavy metal music site - a grave error! I think I was in about.com and using their search features.
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Post# 410-5/25/2001-07:29 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the day
MESSAGE: I have never liked about.com much. I might try meta crawler and google.
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Post# 411-5/25/2001-07:33 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the day (new search)
MESSAGE: Metacrawler took me strait to GE.com!!! Classic appliances? I dont really think so.
Google came up with the yahoo club
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Post# 412-5/25/2001-07:36 ||| Wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: New member
MESSAGE: Hey guys my name is Philippe... this is just unbeliveable I stumbled upon yall when I was cruising Ebay for washers and meet Jetcone. I was one of the bidders on the Apex Manuel that I belive Uni won.
I have always loved watching diffrent agitation washing machines so when it comes to a favorite its difficult.
Profile is posted.
Would someone be so kind as to send me the details of the convention in August I tried to search for 3 days thru all the posts and now asking for help
Happy washing
wrining wet
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Post# 413-5/25/2001-07:41 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Wisk Tablets/Cascade (Old Wisk, I remember when it was in cans)
MESSAGE: The ring around the collar commercials were dropped after the Women's Liberation folks tore into that ad. (Ring around the collar was not the wife's fault. Tell the husbands to wash their necks). Of course those were the days when so many men used oil based hair stuff, the greasy kids' stuff like Brylcream, which had better uses. Does anyone remember "Butch Wax?" Topical application did not have systemic effects in my case.
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Post# 414-5/25/2001-07:47 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New member (Welcome)
MESSAGE: Hi Philippe, welcome to our wonderful club.
Its always so much fun to meet another appliance/washer person! The convention is going to be held here in Minneapolis-St. Paul. The dates are Aug 17-18-19. I will be able to dig up all the details for you later but just to give you a head start here is the hotel information where everyone will be staying. Most of the activities will be held at my house (in the basement of course, except for when we're washing dishes!)
Holiday Inn - Minneapolis/Airport #2
5401 Green Valley Drive (Exit 7B off of I-494)
Bloomington MN 55437
You must say your are with the Classic Appliance Club group. Group rate is $79+tax/night
Reservation *must* be made directly with the hotel:
(952) 831-8000
Reservations must be made by August 1st. The special rate and room availability cannot be guaranteed after 8/1/2001.
Free airport shuttle. Free Mall shuttle. Indoor pool and fitness area.
If you have any problems, please try contacting me first. My contact at the hotel is Dana Johnson, Sales Rep.
Note: As I type this right now, I'm looking in the reservation system and the block has not appeared. You might want to wait until Monday to give them time to get it into the system. There are a few smoking rooms in the block, along with a few rooms available a few days before the weekend and after the weekend. If you have any special requirements or are staying longer than the 3 day weekend, be sure to call soon so your requests can be accommodated.
-ph
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Post# 415-5/25/2001-07:53 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: The Dependability People Made a Mistake!
MESSAGE: Looks like a picture was left out and things got out of synch.
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Post# 416-5/25/2001-07:58 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: New member
MESSAGE: Welcome to the club. Is yours a life time obsession? Don't be embarrassed if it is. Tom
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Post# 417-5/25/2001-08:02 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: The Dependability People Made a Mistake!
MESSAGE: I was only looking at the text - not the pictures in relation to the text - duh! How funny - to be leary of your new automatic and wanting more information about how it works and then to get this! Bring back my wringer!
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Post# 418-5/25/2001-08:04 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: New member
MESSAGE: Welcome! The yahoo club is full of information, but would take forever to wade through all those posts - were you able to get to everyone's pictures?
Welcome again and enjoy - Greg
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Post# 419-5/25/2001-08:09 ||| Wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: New member (Lifetime obsession )
MESSAGE: Yes it is and I have been called a very strange person and one analysit said I probably had this condition called asperge syndrome (viewing repetitive motions)
I am free now to wash and play as I wish LOL
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Post# 420-5/25/2001-09:17 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: The Dependability People Made a Mistake!
MESSAGE: Picts or captions, however you want to look at it in #'s 4 and 5 are backwards.
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Post# 421-5/25/2001-09:19 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: Robert.....something is strange here.....
MESSAGE: Before I was not having any problem with the links changing colors as i would view them. Now every time I refresh the page they all go to the new post color.
More gremlins??
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Post# 422-5/25/2001-09:23 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: Miss Lady K is ill again......
MESSAGE: I got buzzed again last night and Carl was wondering what that means so I fired up the Lady K and shook the tub all over but didn't get any buzzing sound. How strange and very depressing. Pulled her out from the wall and removed the OOB switch and it was melted!!! I guess I will have to hunt one down today. Life would not be the same without the awful sound of the buzzer.
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Post# 423-5/25/2001-09:35 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Robert.....something is strange here.....
MESSAGE: Hi Jason, I was experimenting with changing the program code to see if I can get those darn links to stay red once they have changed to red. No luck so far, but I will restore the code back to the way it was over the weekend.
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Post# 424-5/25/2001-09:36 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Miss Lady K is ill again...... (melted???)
MESSAGE: Jason, what do you mean by the Off Balance Buzzer switch was melted? That sounds like it could be something more serious in the electrical system.
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Post# 425-5/25/2001-09:38 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Robert.....something is strange here.....
MESSAGE: Of course this is not happening to me which only makes all of this even more challenging. When I hit reload, they stay red, the only time they all change back to blue is when I forget to log-in.
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Post# 426-5/25/2001-09:42 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: Robert.....something is strange here..... (sometimes there are just gremlins in the server )
MESSAGE: I was a chef for 25 years and now do distance educational design. My experience has been you can drive yourself nuts trying to get it perfect LOL
you just have to drive the evil demons out of the system
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Post# 427-5/25/2001-09:46 ||| RobGwisdala (Troy Ohio 45373)
SUBJECT: Robert's 1957 Lady Kenmore.
MESSAGE: Hi Robert,
Are you going to convert your 1957 Lady Kenmore to a "large capacity" washer?
18# capacity washers let you handle big and bulky loads with ease.
Rob
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Post# 428-5/25/2001-09:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Robert's 1957 Lady Kenmore. (NEVER-EVER)
MESSAGE: Never, ever. Here's why Rob. Some machines are more important than others to keep in their original state. This is the very 1st Lady Kenmore, taking her and converting her to something more modern would completely ruin her. I have no need for a large capacity machine since I have 18 hooked up, I can get more wash in just two Unimatics than any one modern large capacity machine. For the big stuff, like comforters, I can use the Whirlpool Combo with it's HUGE drum.
I converted my 1959 Sunny Yellow Maytag, because its not anything special like the '57 Lady.
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Post# 429-5/25/2001-10:08 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: New Wallpapers
MESSAGE: Thanks for the great new wallpapers, Robert!!! I'll withhold my wallpaper suggestions for a while... What great fun this all is!
-ph
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Post# 430-5/25/2001-10:19 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: If I had Uni's set up
MESSAGE: If I had uni's set up I would never leave the house hell I thought I was in heaven with the easy spinner the maytag gyrator and the 1-18 frigidaire all going at once
Philippe
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Post# 431-5/25/2001-10:21 ||| Hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Miss Lady K is ill again...... (melted???)
MESSAGE: Yup. She melted. Right where the red wire connects to the switch. Now I know what that burning smell was. I think what happened is the red wire grounded out againt the cabinet causing the switch to melt. I'll run by the store and pick up a new one on my way to Home Depot.
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Post# 432-5/25/2001-10:24 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New Wallpapers (why withold)
MESSAGE: Speak now or forever hold your piece Peter (at least for a little bit). I'm going to put more work into this thing this coming weekend, but after that I need to get onto restoring the 1952 Whirlpool. I want to have that machine running for the convention, then I need to put down a new basement floor. So the web site will get less of my attention during those MAJOR projects.
By the way, if those with scanners want something for a logo, scan it and email it to me at webmaster@classicappliances.com.
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Post# 433-5/25/2001-11:44 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New member (have my hotel reservaitons)
MESSAGE: Just done did do mine. I'm staying through Mon. morning. Robert, I thought the Frigidaire portable was in the basement--being able to watch the "forbidden" cycle LOL.
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Post# 434-5/25/2001-11:45 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: New member (Lifetime obsession )
MESSAGE: Wringing wet, we have had discussions about what we call ass burger's syndrome and even thought of financing our museum as a treatment and research center for this. My shrink told my parents that if I had been a real male, I would have been interested in automobiles and engines instead of appliances. Well, f*** you very much Dr.
Glad to have you on board. This is every bit as wonderful an experience as the first time in my life I found other people who are like I am. Be sure to look at pictures of our collections on the Yahoo site. I think you are going to have lots of fun here. Tom
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Post# 435-5/25/2001-11:55 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Miss Lady K is ill again......
MESSAGE: Hon, did that thing melt down when you demonstrated it for me over the phone? Do you think that our unbalanced condition as well as your jerking the tub to trip the switch overloaded the circuitry? Sort of like when Martha Mitchell was calling from the china fixture? (unloading while unloading) Not that you are old enough to remember that. Ask Susan about her. That ought to be good for a healthy diatribe. TT
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Post# 436-5/25/2001-11:56 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: New member (Lifetime obsession )
MESSAGE: Tom, Does that mean I am only half real male? I can sling a wrench and fix a vehicle just as good as any 'real male', maybe even better. LOL
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Post# 437-5/25/2001-12:05 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Miss Lady K is ill again......
MESSAGE: I don't think our unbalanced condition had anything to do with it. If it did I am sure my switch would have tripped long before the washers melted and you would have heard my buzzing for miles.
Remember I kept smelling that hot/overheating stench about 2 months ago? I guess it was the switch. It had been acting up for about a week. Since I changed the motor pulley to the larger size it really gets going and if the load is not balanced just right the machine goes everywhere. A few times it sounded like a 10 car pile-up and I wondered why the buzzer didn't go off. Now I know.
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Post# 438-5/25/2001-12:25 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: New member
MESSAGE: Philippe, welcome to the club. It's nice to have a new member again.
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Post# 439-5/25/2001-12:28 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Robert.....something is strange here.....
MESSAGE: And also when you have a look at a profile and then go back to the messages. All blue again.
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Post# 440-5/25/2001-12:35 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Robert.....something is strange here.....
MESSAGE: At least sometimes.....
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Post# 441-5/25/2001-12:49 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New member (have my hotel reservaitons)
MESSAGE: Yes appnut, you're right, the Frigidaire D&M see-thru lid dishwasher is in the basement. Geeees, can't slip anything by you guys can I?
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Post# 442-5/25/2001-12:56 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Robert.....something is strange here.....
MESSAGE: That's all part of the same issue Louis. It seems to be related to the fact that blue frame (with menu choices) on top and the pink frame (with the message indexes) are not talking to each other. Once you click on anything in the upper blue frame it forgets what you just click on in the pink frame. More work to come on this issue, but we'll live with it for now, since its not really a "show stopper".
For those who want to try, experiement with hitting refresh before you click on anything in the blue frame, if you've selected messages in the Pink frame.
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Post# 443-5/25/2001-13:04 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: How Does the Picture of the Day Work?
MESSAGE: I was asked by a few members what happens if they miss the picture of the day, is it gone forever? Yes and no is my answer to that question.
Let me explain how I created this feature to work:
There will be about 150 pictures loaded in the system for the picture of the day (42 are uploaded as of last night), each picture is assigned a it's very own number from 1 to 150.
At 2am Central Time the system "spins it's roulette wheel and picks a number from 1 to 150. What ever number the roulette ball lands in becomes the new picture of the day. The reason I call it a roulette wheel is because this number is truly random, any number can come up at any time. Eventually we will see pictures come up again, but as chance has it, it probably wont be for a while.
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Post# 444-5/25/2001-13:57 ||| jaxcubb (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: New member (RE: New member (Lifetime obsession ))
MESSAGE: Yeah, my parents thought I was alittle weird being interested in how appliances work. When I was a toddler, my mom would hold me up over our Kenmore washer, so I could watch the agitator go back and forth. I was always facinated with our neighbors top loading Kenmore dishwasher with the roto-rack. (That is, until we got one, and it turned out to be one of my chores to clear the dinner dishes 'grin').
I think it's cool to meet other people, who like me, share the same interests!
Mike
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Post# 445-5/25/2001-14:19 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Help with the search engines
MESSAGE: In order to submit our site to the search engines I need ideas from you guys about how to answer the following two questions:
1st
Keywords that will cause the site to be hit. You can use the same keyword or key-phrase up to 7 times to mark its relevance (e.g., washing machine we would put seven times, refrigerator maybe twice, etc.)
Note: Keywords Must-- (words or phrases separated by commas)
Maximum 1,000 characters (not 1000 words, but 1000 characters!), do not repeat any keyword or key-phrase more than 7 times.
2nd
Description: (no HTML tags please)
A paragraph of less than 200 characters that describes our site. Be sure to include unique key words and phrases in here too.
We'll there you have it guys, put on your thinking caps and lets see what we can come up with as a collective group.
Thanks for everyone's assistance.
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Post# 446-5/25/2001-14:53 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: New member
MESSAGE: Welcome Phillipe! We don't talk much about Assbergers Syndrome here. We just enjoy the company and the machines!
-ph
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Post# 447-5/25/2001-14:55 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New member (RE: New member (Lifetime obsession ))
MESSAGE: My story began when my step-grandmother held me up to see her 1950's Whirlpool. I was a toddler, circa 1965 I figure it was. Something "clicked," and here I am.
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Post# 448-5/25/2001-14:55 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Robert.....something is strange here..... (red? what red?)
MESSAGE: On my PC, unread posts are in blue, and change to green after they are read. The poster's name is in red.
Or is this a play on colors and verb tenses (red, read, read)?
-ph
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Post# 449-5/25/2001-14:58 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: New Wallpapers (poor, overworked webmaster!)
MESSAGE: Webmaster! I like that! The images going thru my brain!
I was going to ask for the Jet Action agitator logo from the 65-69 Rollermatic control panel...
-ph
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Post# 450-5/25/2001-15:02 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: New member (how can that be?)
MESSAGE: Louis... "a new member again"??? If you're having him again, how can he be new? LOL!
-ph
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Post# 451-5/25/2001-15:08 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Help with the search engines
MESSAGE: Hi Robert,
For our key words/phrases, I would say the use of "Vintage" and "Antique" along with "Appliances," "Washers," "Washing Machine," "Dryer," "Refrigerator," "Dishwasher," etc. I remember when I was looking for any sites over a year ago, there was nothing, all I got was the site for the "Old Appliance Club" (which is about as useless as spats on a hog). If Brooklyn Robert hadn't clued me in, I would have never found the yahoo site.
For our statement, why not use your paragraph from the home page?
Todd
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Post# 452-5/25/2001-15:10 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: Is it possible to set up a cookie so it remembers you're logged in?
MESSAGE: Robert,
Would it possible to set up the log-in screen so you have the option to be remembered the next time you log on to the site? Like the way the Yahoo! site was set up?
Todd
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Post# 453-5/25/2001-15:11 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: '72 Kenmore set
MESSAGE: ooohhhhh Jasooooon!!!
New today is a '72 Kenmore set. Kind neat, as it has a rectangular window in the control panel that the dial is underneat, so you can watch the timer increment thru the window. The timer knob is to the right of the window, and the options are on the left. This is a wash-by-alphabet machine. Gold Vari-Flex with wings, detergent dispenser on the right top of the machine, dual bleach and softener dispenser under the lid. Full console florescent light. Options include the cold water selector, soak only/soak and wash, and 2nd rinse. Has some console wear around the cycle knob. Matching dryer, drum shows extensive use. I'll probably take the tops and control panels, unless someone wants both machines.
Also today was a keyboard Kenmore with color-coded keys. Very badly worn, so that's a goner...
-ph
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Post# 454-5/25/2001-15:15 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Special Delivery
MESSAGE: Robert,
Have you rec'd the special delivery from Boston yet? What's the status of that transfer?
-ph
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Post# 455-5/25/2001-15:27 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: How Does the Picture of the Day Work?
MESSAGE: Well, for those of us traveling almost all day Friday of the convention, we'll have to cath the POTD when you arrive at your house Robert.
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Post# 456-5/25/2001-15:33 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Robert.....something is strange here..... (red? what red?)
MESSAGE: Peter, it has something to do with your settings--pertaining to read & unread links.
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Post# 457-5/25/2001-15:35 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Is it possible to set up a cookie so it remembers you're logged in?
MESSAGE: Todd, if it's an impossiblity, then I guess that's the way the cookie crumbles.
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Post# 458-5/25/2001-15:48 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: How Does the Picture of the Day Work?
MESSAGE: There is a way to get all the POTDs, but I'll never tell because that would ruin everybody's an-ti-ci-pation in seeing what comes up new each day.
(I'm so bad . . . )
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Post# 459-5/25/2001-16:04 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: How Does the Picture of the Day Work?
MESSAGE: HA! Not after this upcoming weekends' code changes and security update as per conversation with technical support on that little matter-- you silly hacker you LOL.
Besides that ruins all the fun and ancticipation.
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Post# 460-5/25/2001-16:05 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Is it possible to set up a cookie so it remembers you're logged in?
MESSAGE: Todd See post #313. I cannot for the life of me get the system to keep the cookie once you leave Applianceville, I've spent hours trying. Any help with this would be appreciated.
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Post# 461-5/25/2001-16:06 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Is it possible to set up a cookie so it remembers you're logged in?
MESSAGE: HA! LOL.....you're killin' me! :)
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Post# 462-5/25/2001-16:07 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Special Delivery (Pulsamatic Trade)
MESSAGE: I'm going to prepare the '49 for transfer this weekend, Jon said he was going to do the same next week.
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Post# 463-5/25/2001-16:11 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (I'm confused)
MESSAGE: Uumm, Peter? Did you bring this set home? I'm confuse, is it something you saw or are you washing in it as we speak?
Did your new camera arrive yet, we all eagerly awaiting your pictures Peter!
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Post# 464-5/25/2001-16:14 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: New member (how can that be?)
MESSAGE: I think I'll wear my sharpest stilettos to the convention.....
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Post# 465-5/25/2001-16:26 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - Bendix Duomatic (Swamp coolers)
MESSAGE: Hi Tom, thanks for that explanation. It hence make sense tht they are so popular in hot but dry Arizona. No, I didn't experience one of those micro mist devices, but when I was there in early March it really would not have been necessary. Next time I go down it will be hotter so maybe I'll experience it then! Have a good weekend, Scott
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Post# 466-5/25/2001-16:39 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set
MESSAGE: I know exactly the machine you're speaking of Peter, that is one of my favorite Sears machines.
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Post# 467-5/25/2001-16:41 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Is it possible to set up a cookie so it remembers you're logged in?
MESSAGE: I'm not sure if I'm special or what, but I have not had this issue with losing my login, either at home or at work.
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Post# 468-5/25/2001-17:45 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set
MESSAGE: Hi Peter,
If you really don't want the machines I would love the set!!!
That is only if you are willing to part with them. I'm sure I can find room here somewhere. Lets see, we really don't need a dining room......
All joking aside Peter, I would love the set.
Jason
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Post# 469-5/25/2001-17:50 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Is it possible to set up a cookie so it remembers you're logged in?
MESSAGE: Thats because you are the QEOM!! I am only the HQOTS. I guess that might have something to do with it.
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Post# 470-5/25/2001-17:54 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Miss Lady K is ill again...... (Were buzzing again!!)
MESSAGE: It took me three hours but I got an OOB switch!! Now I'm happy! This one is the new design with the terminals on one side. The other one was original with a terminal on each side and when the baseplate would hit the switch it would also make contact with the red wire causing a short.
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Post# 471-5/25/2001-18:01 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Is it possible to set up a cookie so it remembers you're logged in?
MESSAGE: ...guess so! LOLOLOL
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Post# 472-5/25/2001-18:20 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Is it possible to set up a cookie so it remembers you're logged in? (wait a minute)
MESSAGE: wait a minute??? Don't you get buzzed Scott if you try to post a message without logging in when you first launch your browser and come into applianceville. If not then how come you were the first to see the new buzzer cartoon?
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Post# 473-5/25/2001-18:27 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Is it possible to set up a cookie so it remembers you're logged in? (wait a minute)
MESSAGE: Robert, that was because I had not logged in at all yet for that day. When that happens, I do indeed get buzzed, and sometimes will get buzzed after a period of several hours or more or something, but I do not have to re-log in every time I leave and return to the site as some folks are reporting.
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Post# 474-5/25/2001-18:35 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Is it possible to set up a cookie so it remembers you're logged in? (that's what I thought)
MESSAGE: Right Scott, but the guys are referring to having your log-in remembered forever so you never have to log in on your own computer.
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Post# 475-5/25/2001-20:11 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Is it possible to set up a cookie so it remembers you're logged in? (that's what I thought)
MESSAGE: Thats right. I think there is a cookie monster in the program somewhere that is eating all of our cookies.
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Post# 476-5/25/2001-20:29 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Miss Lady K is ill again...... (Were buzzing again!!)
MESSAGE: Jason, I'm so glad you got "switched". Now you'll never be OOB again, although I'm sure some people have made some comments through the years LOL.
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Post# 477-5/25/2001-20:32 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Is it possible to set up a cookie so it remembers you're logged in? (that's what I thought)
MESSAGE: Well, Robert, you need to put a Flair in your html coding so that we'll have plenty of cookies to go around.
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Post# 478-5/25/2001-20:33 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Is it possible to set up a cookie so it remembers you're logged in? (that's what I thought)
MESSAGE: And don't forget to take a brak and have a cup of java.
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Post# 479-5/25/2001-21:04 ||| kc4ab (limaburg ky)
SUBJECT: i forget what i was going to say?
MESSAGE: hi.after looking at the profiles i think i am the oldest member
now i know scottdamit calls me OLD MAN all the time.
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Post# 480-5/25/2001-21:10 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: i forget what i was going to say?
MESSAGE: Congratulations Jeff, but don't get too used to it because the way the membership roster is growing, you might not hold that title for long!
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Post# 481-5/25/2001-21:18 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Brand New Features
MESSAGE: OK I have three brand new features to the web site to tell you guys about:
#1, as per Greg's (Gansky1) and a few others request, starting with Post #473 a clickable link will now be added to the box that shows you the reply'd to message, so you can follow a message thread back to its very beginning without having to find the Post # in the Pink Index list. Since this is a new feature, posts before 472 will not be able to have these installed. But look on the bright side, when we're at Post #22,000 we'll be able to look back and see the evolution of Applianceville.
#2 In the Profile Secion, the list has now been given numbers so it's easy to see how many members we currently have.
#3 Also added from a request from Greg (I think)-- You can now add your favorite internet link to your profile. To update it, click on Edit-My-Profile, the fields are located at the bottom of the purple edit-profile page.
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Post# 482-5/25/2001-21:37 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: i forget what i was going to say?
MESSAGE: Jeff, I think there's a guy in las vegas, from the yahoo site, that's your age or there abouts. No, you're not old. I like to ponder the fact of all the stuff you've seen over the last 30 plus years with appliances. Hell, with so many in their 30s, I feel old at 47.
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Post# 483-5/25/2001-21:40 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Brand New Features
MESSAGE: hoorey!!! you can now click on the old post number as a link and look back & keep looking back, I'm assuming.
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Post# 484-5/25/2001-21:50 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: Another logo suggestion
MESSAGE: Robert, am I having old-timers moments, but wasn't there (I think I remember seeing on a 1964 or 1965 Kenmore 500, a Sears Kenmore Logo that had Sears in a fancy/wierd font in the midst of a black circle???
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Post# 485-5/25/2001-21:53 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Another logo suggestion (Another question)
MESSAGE: When was the period that Maytag had that funky M (in a circle) kinda like the M in Motorola, that was a "badge" on the fron of their washers? How that logo, if it's period appropriate too?
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Post# 486-5/25/2001-01:29 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Brand New Features
MESSAGE: All great improvements - amazing how much goes into one web site.
Eternal thanks and praise for our Webmaster!!
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Post# 487-5/26/2001-03:05 ||| forAloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Brand New Features
MESSAGE: Wonderful new features Robert, this is getting better and better. Louis
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Post# 488-5/26/2001-09:31 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT: RE: Hoover VS Dyson vacuum cleaners
MESSAGE: I love my Hoover windtunnel! I didnt know Dyson even made vacuumes.
SD
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Post# 489-5/26/2001-09:49 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT: Welcome
MESSAGE: Welcome to the club Phillipe
SD
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Post# 490-5/26/2001-09:49 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (let me set your mind at ease)
MESSAGE: No, the '72 set is across town. I have a 62 KM dryer and the '78(?) LK dryer for Steve, and the '63 LK set. This '72 set is something new that I haven't gotten yet (I'm still debating whether to get it or not).
The camera is charging up, I just read the user's manual, and the software is loaded. Let's see how good I get at this...
-ph
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Post# 491-5/26/2001-09:52 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (Not the big window)
MESSAGE: Scott,
This is not like the dryer that you MSP guys saw at an estate sale a month or two ago. If it was, I probably wouldn't be having anxiety over taking them home or not! This one is a bit more "Kenmoresque" - neat looking well within the KM tradition. Anyone have the 72 catalog with posting abilities?
-ph
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Post# 492-5/26/2001-09:54 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (a set for HQOTS)
MESSAGE: Jason,
Then you got them. I hope to have pics of them sometime today and will post them to Yahoo today or tomorrow...
-ph
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Post# 493-5/26/2001-10:01 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Pearl is back!?!?
MESSAGE: WH Pearl is back... I hope the random pic program isn't like a Sony carousel CD player that always seems to play the same songs when in random mode...
-ph
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Post# 494-5/26/2001-10:08 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Pearl is back!?!?
MESSAGE: Perhaps code should be added to prevent a POTD from repeating until they have all been seen.
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Post# 495-5/26/2001-10:24 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (a set for HQOTS)
MESSAGE: Thank you Peter!!!!!!!!!!
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Post# 496-5/26/2001-14:01 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (Not the big window)
MESSAGE: Peter, is this the styling of the '72s' control panels?
LINK: http://ib.yimg.com/b/de3b51ee/h/0/b32594a2/North+Side+House+Kenmore+Dryer.jpg
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Post# 497-5/26/2001-14:08 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (Not the big window)
MESSAGE: Anyway, this was the one I was talking about. I think I like this style because the timer arrangement reminds me of my great aunt Harriet's RCA Whirlpool.
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Post# 498-5/26/2001-18:36 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (Access forbidden from external hosts.)
MESSAGE: That's the message I get from your link - was this in Yahoo photos?
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Post# 499-5/26/2001-18:51 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (Access forbidden from external hosts.)
MESSAGE: yes...drive me nuts when it does that. It will work if you try a few times, or copy the link out of the dead window and put it in another one. When I first put it in I was working fine.
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Post# 500-5/26/2001-19:02 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (Access forbidden from external hosts.)
MESSAGE: It did work - it tried it in explorer and netscape and got the same thing several times. Once I opened a new window, it worked the second re-load.
I love that KM style - a friend of our family had a set like this that they took out of a rental property. He was fixing something on the washer and was testing it in the garage, another fond washer memory from childhood.
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Post# 501-5/26/2001-19:32 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Pearl is back!?!? (It’s a coincidence)
MESSAGE: I checked out the Picture of the Day program and it ran just fine, although I completely re-wrote it last night so it wont show off the secret web location of all the pictures. Looks like the roulette ball landed in Perl’s house again. The best way to prevent this is for me to add a lot more pictures, only 55 are up so far. Now that they are in, shall we say, a secret place, I will upload another 100 or so!
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Post# 502-5/26/2001-19:33 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Pearl is back!?!? (maybe)
MESSAGE: but its not a high priority.
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Post# 503-5/26/2001-19:48 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (Access still forbidden)
MESSAGE: IIIII'mmmmm still gett access denied.
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Post# 504-5/26/2001-19:52 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (Access still forbidden)
MESSAGE: Did you try the trick of copying the link into another window? I don't know why this happens, but it worked for Greg and me. when I first posted this link it was working fine. I've had this happen before when I've tried to show pictures to friends, they get restricted area and this n that even though they're public albums.
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Post# 505-5/26/2001-19:54 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (Access still forbidden)
MESSAGE: Let's see if this one works any better.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/multimatic850?e&.intl=us&.flabel=fld19&.from=d&.pindex=8&start=1&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/multimatic850%3fd%26.flabel=fld19%26.intl=us%26.src=ph
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Post# 506-5/26/2001-20:07 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (I think what happened is...)
MESSAGE: I think when I posted the picture the first time, I clicked on it and there was just the picture, and I took that link. It probably doesn't accept that one since it isn't part of the album or have the advertising. The new one takes you to the location in the album where the pic resides, then you can look at it, click on it, navigate the rest of the album, or whatever.
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Post# 507-5/26/2001-20:24 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (Access still forbidden)
MESSAGE: Yes, I saw the coppertone dryer. Is this what I'm supposed to see, not a Sear catalogue ad? K. Oh, & BTW, thank you. We mustn't forget our manners here.
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Post# 508-5/26/2001-20:27 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (Access still forbidden)
MESSAGE: Yes, that's what you're supposed to see. I want to find out from Peter if this is the style of washer and dryer he found, and you're welcome! :)
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Post# 509-5/26/2001-21:04 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (Access still forbidden)
MESSAGE: Scott, if you're still there, why don't you get on Messenger?
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Post# 510-5/26/2001-21:59 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (close, but no cupcake)
MESSAGE: Good evening all... I got the pics in the laptop, but it's 11pm and I've got to get some sleep...
The window is on the left, the knob on the right... But the (good) link you posted is the one that I referred to when I said it's kinda like the one you saw.
OK, I just talked my self into trying to post the pic... Back in a few...
-ph
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Post# 511-5/26/2001-22:03 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (close, but no cupcake)
MESSAGE: Great! I still know which one you mean then. The one you're talking about is slightly later than the one in the link picture.
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Post# 512-5/26/2001-22:16 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (let's see if this works)
MESSAGE: Pictures for everyone!
-ph
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/peterh770
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Post# 513-5/26/2001-22:24 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (let's see if this works)
MESSAGE: Thanks Peter!!! I'll be there tomorrow. Ok, maybe not tomorrow....Hows next month?
What kind of shape are tops and cabinets in? Any chips or major rust?
Jason
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Post# 514-5/26/2001-22:24 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (let's try this link too)
MESSAGE: just to see if you get there quicker...
Good night, all...
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/vwp?.dir=/Yahoo!+Photo+Album&.src=ph&.dnm=72+Kenmore+washer.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/lst%3f%26.dir=/Yahoo!%2bPhoto%2bAlbum%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 515-5/26/2001-22:27 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (condition)
MESSAGE: Jason... I hope your monitor is better than my laptop... If it is, you can see the wear in the design around the knobs and along the bottom of the console. Do you want the whole machine or just the console?
-ph
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Post# 516-5/26/2001-22:28 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (condition 2)
MESSAGE: The cabinets are pretty good, the side of course show some wear where they were rubbing against something. Seems to me the tops are in the famously good Kenmore condition.
-ph
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Post# 517-5/26/2001-22:32 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (wings)
MESSAGE: can you see also the little extension wings on the top of the main Vari-Flex vanes? Seems to me that the white VF agitators don't have those extra wings...
-ph
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Post# 518-5/26/2001-22:32 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (condition)
MESSAGE: Hi Peter,
I would love to have the entire machines. Do you know if there is anytihng wrong with them? Not that it really matters any because you know they will be reworked and brought back to the way they should be amd put back into use.
Jason
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Post# 519-5/26/2001-22:34 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (wings)
MESSAGE: Your right. The white ones do not have the wings. How come??
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Post# 520-5/26/2001-22:35 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (they be yours)
MESSAGE: I'll get them both and they be yours... I got to the store too late and they had already closed, and I don't think they are open Sunday or Monday... Today was a terrible appliance hunting day...
You planing on a GA trip? Let me know early so I can plan...
-ph
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Post# 521-5/26/2001-22:37 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (flightless Kenmores)
MESSAGE: Maybe they were added in later productions? The VF is bulky enough, it should have given great washing action without them. I bet Tom knows...
-ph
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Post# 522-5/26/2001-22:37 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (they be yours)
MESSAGE: Those are great machines, and I knew they were the ones I thought once you told me they weren't the ones like the coppertone one I showed. That is one of, if not the last, of the "automatic alphabet" machines, and I love the styling!
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Post# 523-5/26/2001-23:04 ||| Eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (U.S. Kenmore vs Canadian)
MESSAGE: Hi Peter, I was wondering about the Kenmore's in the U.S. Did Sears ever use any other manufacturer other than WP? Canadian Kenmore's were generally made by Inglis (WP design) but even included some GE's and even some WCI units. Regardless, I never saw a flex vane in any of our older KM's.
Eddy
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Post# 524-5/26/2001-23:12 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (U.S. Kenmore vs Canadian)
MESSAGE: Eddy, as long as I can remember, strictly Whirlpool here in the states.
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Post# 525-5/26/2001-23:23 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (they be yours)
MESSAGE: Yup! I have been planning a trip up there for a while. Just did not know when. It will probablly only be a weekend trip maybe coming in on a Friday. Most likely the middle of next month if that is ok with you.
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Post# 526-5/26/2001-00:03 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (let's try this link too)
MESSAGE: Very cool, Peter. I remember that Kenmore design.
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Post# 527-5/26/2001-01:02 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (let's see if this works)
MESSAGE: Peter, thanks for the pictures, quite a pro already. I hadn't seen such a set before, are they rare? The timer almost looks like a radio. BTW, I like the house. So many trees around it, WOW. Louis
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Post# 528-5/27/2001-04:29 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: POTD
MESSAGE: There appears to be a bug in the new code.
I got the message about being the first person to see the new selection for the day, but the image was broken. The image properties said it was -1 bytes and of very small dimensions (20-something x 20-something pixels).
When I went back and forward for the 2nd viewing of the POTD, the proper image appeared.
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Post# 529-5/27/2001-08:20 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (thanks Peter)
MESSAGE: Congrats on your first Pictures, the Kenmore is really cool. And your house is really cute! Can't wait to see more.
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Post# 530-5/27/2001-08:22 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD (not bug, but)
MESSAGE: Might be a blip in the 2am file copy on the server. When I looked at the file it seemed corrupted, so I canged the picture of the day to a new picture, this one seems fine. I'll keep a close watch on it to make sure this new code for the POTD is working properly.
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Post# 531-5/27/2001-08:32 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD (model year?)
MESSAGE: Robert: What's the model year on that Hotpoint set?
-ph
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Post# 532-5/27/2001-08:40 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (U.S. Kenmore vs Canadian)
MESSAGE: Eddy!
We all know about "Frigmore" FL's, but the standard washers with the console have always been Whirlpool. The slimline stacked combo unit they used to sell were WP, but I think have switched to WCI. The fullsize stacked combo has always been WCI. They also have a little rollaround portable that I remember seeing "Made in France" on, but now show made somewhere else. It has a little 3 vane Maytag style agitator and the suspension allows you to really move the tub around super easy. And of course, there is the Kenamore'...
Does anyone know about KM dryers? Some have the in/out thru the back classic WP airflow, but some have the thru the drum (axial) airflow. They look kinda Amana-ish or Maytag Performa/Nortagish to me, but are probably WP nonetheless...
-ph
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Post# 533-5/27/2001-08:43 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (GA pick-up)
MESSAGE: That will work. We'll coordinate with Steve. My entrepreneurial endevors keep me kinda bound here at the 'mat, so I'll need his help to keep you busy! Not to mention that you must see his 1-18 farm! I think he has 43 of them now! LOL!!!
-ph
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Post# 534-5/27/2001-08:52 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (KM rarities)
MESSAGE: Louis,
Nearly all KM's are rare just because their style varied so much from model to model from year to year. Let's say that if KM had a tower top design, there'd be only one model of it and all the other models that year would be different. The thing about Atlanta it seems like I find alot of the upper end to TOL models. The frequency with which they appear around here make me think that the '79 Frigidaire WCI push button machine is right around the corner!
-ph
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Post# 535-5/27/2001-08:53 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD (not bug, but)
MESSAGE: 1957
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Post# 536-5/27/2001-08:54 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (the house)
MESSAGE: Thanks, Robert, but my house is a train wreck!!! Having 11 washers and 5 dryers around isn't helping matters either! I need 36 hour days with 8 days a week...
-ph
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Post# 537-5/27/2001-08:55 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: We'll of course being a holiday weekend, there were only 3 sales, and only one of them had anything to photograph. But there was a 1968 Kenmore washer and dryer set, at this sale, that a few of you guys would just die for!
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/estatesale3/lst?.dir=/Estate+Sale+Saturday+May+25+2001&.view=t
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Post# 538-5/27/2001-08:55 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (the house)
MESSAGE: Tell me about it!
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Post# 539-5/27/2001-09:06 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (see what I mean about KM?)
MESSAGE: Robert,
Thanks for the pics. That washer and dryer were about mint, weren't they? Neat, neat machines!
I wonder if these were before or after the Model 70's I grew up with. We bought them in 1968, but maybe they were the model year before or after?
-ph
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Post# 540-5/27/2001-09:12 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (abuse case?)
MESSAGE: This model had suds-saver?
Rinses in warm usually?
The home owner runs the PP cycle on low water level? OUCH!!!
-ph
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Post# 541-5/27/2001-09:18 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (let's see if this works)
MESSAGE: Great job Peter! I love both the sets - would you or someone bring the Vari-Flex agitator to the convention so we can try it? I've tried most of the other KM agitators except that one. It's a beautiful set for your collection Jason!
I didn't realize you had a matchine TOL 1-18 set, Peter, they are beautiful too. I have a bunch of parts for those dryers if you ever need anything I'll check the inventory!
Your house is great too - amidst all those trees - very peaceful looking. Hope your weekend hunting is going well, enjoy that new camera!
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Post# 542-5/27/2001-09:27 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (the house)
MESSAGE: I still can't park in the garage!
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Post# 543-5/27/2001-09:32 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: bringing back the memories
MESSAGE: The Kenmores Set you have displayed peter is one that I use to use at a nursing home worked for years. the WCI 1-18 makes me long for the one I used to have. I went out yesterday hunting in charleston area and only found a a lady kenmore wringer with the visamatic rollers .. and it has the same agitator as the kenmore set I beilive.
I am looking for flights to MI for the convention and will have to get some drugs from my doctor so I don't have a seizure when I see uni's collection
Philippe
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Post# 544-5/27/2001-09:55 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (home stuff)
MESSAGE: Thanks, Greg! I think maybe Scott or Robert could stir up a VF for us at convention, or maybe Tom or Jason could pre-ship one up to Robert by then!
The DCIE is intact, but it needs a new lint screen guard as the one in there is badly warped and would probably suck socks, hankies and thongs into the lint screen. The WCI is missing the outer cabinet. That was the one thrown from the truck. If you look closely, you'll see some of the dents along the top of the console. I have the top and the innards of that machine, and will probably transplant them into/onto the white WC-6G cabinet. Maybe tomorrow!
In my carport are the CI set, the 63 LK set, 3 WC-6's, 1 WCD, '54 GE, '79 LK, mid-70's GE. My car fits in only half way!
-ph
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Post# 545-5/27/2001-09:57 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: bringing back the memories
MESSAGE: Phil... Don't go to MI!!! Go to MN!!!
-ph
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Post# 546-5/27/2001-10:10 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (home stuff)
MESSAGE: I have the screen itself, but not the guard - with your luck, you'll have one in no time. Don't use this until you get it replaced - you'll need those thongs for Saturday nights and of course, the hankies to wave at church on Sunday mornings!!
It's a beautiful day here and I've got the line full of sheets. I'm off to paint in the new laundry room - I have all the stuff I need, except more hours in the day! Enjoy the weekend!
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Post# 547-5/27/2001-10:38 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Robert, I'm dead for that Kenmore set. A buddy from college, his mom had the washer--she abused it constantly--overloaded way to much all the time. By 1974 when I was around, the agitator was having difficulty staing engaged all the time. She'd have to go monkey with the machine. Yes, the owner committed a cardinal sin--PP on low, but I used to do the same thing wheen I had the chance, loved having the cool down fill & drain twice or more during those two minutes!!! The dryer impressed me, first time I'd ever seen a Kenmore more Whirlpoolish--both a PP & Normal auto cycle. I'd always seen just one auto/all-fabric cycle. Yes peter, I believe on auto, rinses were warm for both the Normal & Delicate cycles. Only pp had cold as the default rinse. I can't remember if that dryer was fabric master or electronic sensored dry.
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Post# 548-5/27/2001-10:39 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Robert, I'm dead for that Kenmore set. A buddy from college, his mom had the washer--she abused it constantly--overloaded way to much all the time. By 1974 when I was around, the agitator was having difficulty staing engaged all the time. She'd have to go monkey with the machine. Yes, the owner committed a cardinal sin--PP on low, but I used to do the same thing wheen I had the chance, loved having the cool down fill & drain twice or more during those two minutes!!! The dryer impressed me, first time I'd ever seen a Kenmore more Whirlpoolish--both a PP & Normal auto cycle. I'd always seen just one auto/all-fabric cycle. Yes peter, I believe on auto, rinses were warm for both the Normal & Delicate cycles. Only pp had cold as the default rinse. I can't remember if that dryer was fabric master or electronic sensored dry.
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Post# 549-5/27/2001-10:41 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: And nother cardinal sin was putting the range & fridge right next to each other-but that was quite common back then. The range looked familiar, but I couldn't place the brand. Wash the shelf above actually a warming shelf too? I wonder what "modern" dishwassher was there replacing the original coppertone one. Probably a kenmore.
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Post# 550-5/27/2001-11:25 ||| forAloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (see what I mean about KM?)
MESSAGE: It looks like the control panel of the washer is higher than the one of the dryer. Is that so? There are indeed many Kenmore models. This set is another model I haven't come across browsing all the US from behind my desk. I wonder what the trip to the convention will bring.
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Post# 551-5/27/2001-11:31 ||| forAloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (abuse case?)
MESSAGE: I'm not sure, but I think the timer is in the colored cottons section. Ofcourse if there has been a crowd of appliance viewers the timer has probably been reset a few times. When I had a second look at the set I saw that the controls of the dryer are different from the controls of the washer. Is this a matching set?
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Post# 552-5/27/2001-11:36 ||| forAloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: bringing back the memories (seizure)
MESSAGE: Philippe, I think we should ask Uni to have some tranquillizers and smelling salt at hand for the light cases and an ambulance for a possible crisis. Louis
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Post# 553-5/27/2001-12:52 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (see what I mean about KM?)
MESSAGE: Luigi, yes this is a matched stet. Yes, I noticed the higher wash control panel enclosure box than the dryer. And no, the washer control dial (cycle dial) is in an "off" position. It's just finished a Permanent Press cycle.
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Post# 554-5/27/2001-13:00 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (abuse case?)
MESSAGE: Louis, you're seeing an optical illusion. I imagine the "pointer" for the dial has faded over time. It's probably obscurred by the blue of the off section. You're seeing one of the "wings" of the knob handle appearing as if it's pointing. That entire dial rotated (including the clear plastic portion) and had a little line you lined up the letters with, underneath it. As far as you not thinking they matched, it was common to have symmetrical balancing of matched sets. Almost like mirrored images. Like on 1959 & some other Frigidaire years, the cycle timer on the washer was on the right hand side & on the dryer, it was on the left hand side. I'll have to look for a matched set magazine advertisement in our pictures & post a link for you. It also happened a lot with Kenmores & a lot for Whirlpools. I think control panels were aesthetically designed for most installations to have washer on left & dryer on right.
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Post# 555-5/27/2001-13:09 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (abuse case?)
MESSAGE: Louis, I just looked at a Frigidaire ad on ebay. It's for 1962 appliances. There's a very fuzzy pic of the Custom Imperial washer set, pink, in the background. The washer cycle area is on the right, the dryer's is on the left. I know that on the 1957 control tower models, the washer timer box was on the right, the dryers box was on the left--almost 100% sure of that, from using my friends 1957 dryer. Being left handed, I'd remember that. Their dryer was across the laundry room from their 1959 Imperial washer. In other words, the washer & dryer faced each other. A sink was on the right side of their washer.
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Post# 556-5/27/2001-13:53 ||| forAloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (abuse case?)
MESSAGE: Bob, I had a look again and saw indeed that the pointer has faded, you just see a little red left. But there is still my point about the dryer having different knob handles than the washer. I was wondering if the dryer was perhaps purchased a few months (or perhaps a year) later.
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Post# 557-5/27/2001-14:10 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (really mint)
MESSAGE: That 1968 Kenmore pair was in pristine condition.
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Post# 558-5/27/2001-14:12 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: bringing back the memories
MESSAGE: Great Phillip, but just make sure you look for a flight to MN and not MI, otherwise you're going to be very dissapointed!
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Post# 559-5/27/2001-14:14 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (abuse case?)
MESSAGE: One of my grandmother's elderly friends had a Kenmore washer with a similar control panel design. I never did get a good look at it, so it could have been that washer, or the specific match to that dryer, if there was one.
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Post# 560-5/27/2001-14:15 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: bringing back the memories (Nerve medicine)
MESSAGE: I you all remember to pack your nerve medicine, we'll all be just fine.
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Post# 561-5/27/2001-14:19 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (matching set?)
MESSAGE: This isn't a matched set - the control panels and knobs are different. I have the 68 catlog with the washer and the dryer to match it had exactly the same style panel and knobs as the washer. I don't know for sure what year that dryer is as I don't have 69 thru 73 catalogs, but it must be newer than the washer.
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Post# 562-5/27/2001-14:22 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (matching set?)
MESSAGE: I had scanned the 68 washer and dryer a long time ago - here's the link. First page is dryer and second is the washer.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1?e&.intl=us&.flabel=fld3&.from=d&.pindex=1&start=1&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1%3fd%26.flabel=fld3%26.intl=us%26.src=ph
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Post# 563-5/27/2001-14:56 ||| forAloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: bringing back the memories (Nerve medicine)
MESSAGE: So that's an extra suitcase with dirty laundry and a trunk with medication. My my, if this goes on, I'd better make a reservation for an entire plane LOL.
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Post# 564-5/27/2001-15:05 ||| forAloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (matching set?)
MESSAGE: Thank you Greg for posting the link. I know I can fuss a lot about matching sets, but I felt that the washer and the dryer didn't match. I remember the pictures, especially because of the happy M/M Kenmore couple. Louis
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Post# 565-5/27/2001-16:52 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (matching set?)
MESSAGE: I always loved this control panel style. It's interesting that the dryer didn't match, wonder what beautiful washer and dryer preceded that set. Tom has talked about the clamshell panel Frigidaire, but I've yet to see one - even a close up picture would be enough to see how it opened and the controls. I like the flip down woodgrain cover on the 70's LK's too - so very sleek looking!
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Post# 566-5/27/2001-17:21 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (2 in 1 weekend)
MESSAGE: Steve 1-18 just blew thru town and we had lunch. He's on his way home from a camping trip, and while on the road, he found an appliance graveyard. He showed me the pics in his camera, and guess what? He found the exact same KM washer in coppertone that Robert found in MSP! Wild! I'll await for him to post the pics...
-ph
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Post# 567-5/27/2001-17:27 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (washer on the left ALWAYS)
MESSAGE: Because of the possibility of the washer being hinged to open to the left side, the dryer should ALWAYS be installed on to the right of the washer! My brother-in-law had it reversed in the house he was building and I made him change it. While his Amana washer opened straight back, his dryer was hinged to open from left to right. Better to have him build the house correctly than have to change the dryer door! LOL
-ph
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Post# 568-5/27/2001-18:13 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Excuse me for not observing the "finer points" of the pair. Geez, if they were mine, I'm not sure I could deal with them not being matched. But in vintage mode observation, I could go gaga over this pair. Scream Kenmore style to me, just like Peter's other new set he showed. There's also a slight hue of color difference between the two. but ya know what, I bet the owner was thrilled that they matched close enough to "pass".
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Post# 569-5/27/2001-19:05 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (matching set?)
MESSAGE: I took a picture of the clamshell Frigidaire washer while I was in MD. It is in with the rest of the picts. Picts 30-33.
LINK: http://web.tampabay.rr.com/jasonspages/museum.html
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Post# 570-5/27/2001-20:41 ||| kc4ab (limaburg ky)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (dryer door)
MESSAGE: most new dryers have doors that can be reversed to hing left or right.neptune washers and dryer doors can be hinged on both sides
JEFF
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Post# 571-5/27/2001-20:50 ||| Austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: Check out the new Kitchen Aid logo...cool!
MESSAGE: Hey, look at this. Thanks Robert! (How do you like me know Appnut? LOL)
Todd
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Post# 572-5/27/2001-21:59 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Check out the new Kitchen Aid logo...cool!
MESSAGE: My pleasure Todd, thanks for sending me scan of the KA logo.
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Post# 573-5/27/2001-22:23 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Launderall Service Manual
MESSAGE: Jetcone had turned part of a Launderall Service Manual into a PDF viewing file. The file is saved in the Service Manual Library. This file can only be read in Adobe Acrobat reader. For those who have Adobe Acrobat Reader already installed on their machine (many come with this installed), this should come up right away when you click on it. If you don't have Acrobat, you can get it for free at the link below. Let me know how you guys make out with this cause its an experiment. The manual and text is best read (clearest) at 100%, not the 160% that it opens in.
LINK: http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep.html
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Post# 574-5/27/2001-22:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: New Links Section
MESSAGE: Looks very cool and works great! You are the master! I like the new graphics for the Links and Applianceville too.
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Post# 575-5/27/2001-22:27 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: A New Function - Links
MESSAGE: As promised the Links button is now installed on the home page. You can add links of interesting web sites to visit, just like we did in Yahoo. I have the system set up to sort by the user name who entered the link. But the Perl language can only sort A-Z then lowercase a-z in that order. So if you want your link to be sorted properly in the list, type your user name in the Add Links Page with the First Letter in Upper Case (or all UPPER CASE but not all lowercase).
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Post# 576-5/27/2001-22:28 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New Links Section (Thanks Greg)
MESSAGE: We were typing a similar note at the same time! Must have been reading each-others minds. I've spent the evening putting Tom's '58 Unimatic Tranny back together, I should have it completed this evening.
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Post# 577-5/27/2001-22:29 ||| steved (Albany NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Steve D-- (Frigidaire High Fashion Washer)
MESSAGE: Hey, Scott.....the High Fashion Washer had eye-level controls, with a storage cabinet in-between, a la Flair range style. I have seen the matching dryer, but never the washer. The washer also had infinite speeds. SteveD
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Post# 578-5/27/2001-22:38 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: Return from Maryland
MESSAGE: I just got home about a hour ago. I had a great time with John and Tom - I also enjoyed spending 2 days in the museum studying and cleaning up some machines also doing some inventories. It would be nice if a few people can get involved in setting up. It would be realy be setup fast. But their is lots to do. I am almost at the end of my 2nd roll of film - I will try to complete it tomorrow & see if I can put the stuff on cd or disk. I will have to check our new web site - I forgot I need to check both now for postings. Hope to be in touch with you guys soon.
Peter
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Post# 579-5/27/2001-22:39 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: That was the most adorable little house, and such a wonderful Kenmore set!
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Post# 580-5/27/2001-22:44 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (abuse case?)
MESSAGE: Peter, what does the water level have to do with the permanent press cycle? Don't Sears machines do some kind of filling and pumping out ritual during the pp cycle? I wonder what year they started saying "permanent press" instead of "wash n wear".
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Post# 581-5/27/2001-22:50 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: ...and I bet you'll be happy to explain to me Bob why this is a cardinal sin...
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Post# 582-5/27/2001-22:51 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Bob, the range was a Wards, I think made by Tappan, and there was no dishwasher.
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Post# 583-5/27/2001-22:52 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (see what I mean about KM?)
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, this particular washer and dryer are not an exactly matched set, but they look similar enough that they look matching from afar and I'm thinking the homemaker did buy them at the same time. QEOM
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Post# 584-5/27/2001-22:54 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (abuse case?)
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, this is what you have heard me referring to as an "automatic alphabet" washer. You match the fabric being washed to the code letter on the little chart, and set the washer to that letter on the timer dial, and the washer preselects the temperatures, wash time, speed and etc. The homemaker can choose a cold wash or rinse however using that extra switch.
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Post# 585-5/27/2001-22:57 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (see what I mean about KM?)
MESSAGE: Look again Bob, the dryer's control panel is actuall slightly different, but I"m betting she bought them together. We saw the dryer in coppertone that had a control panel identical to this washers a few months ago. Scott
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Post# 586-5/27/2001-22:59 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (abuse case?)
MESSAGE: Robert verified the washer as being a 68, I wish I had checked the dryer to see if it too was a 68, but if not, it's not far off.
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Post# 587-5/27/2001-23:02 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (matching set?)
MESSAGE: I could be wrong, but since the washer and dryer match and it has the single, also Sears suds tub, I bet she had a wringer washer prior to this set.
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Post# 588-5/27/2001-23:07 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: F&P factory
MESSAGE: This is from a home show on Australian television. They made a visit to the Fisher and paykel factory in Auckland. Thought thims might interest a few, particulary DaDOEs (sorry if i got your name wrong)
LINK: http://lifestyle.ninemsn.com.au/ourhouse/factsheets/db/gizmosandgadgets/01/132.asp
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Post# 589-5/27/2001-23:07 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Steve D-- (Frigidaire High Fashion Washer)
MESSAGE: Oh how interesting....that washer might be quite rare however as I remember Tom saying they had an infinite speed Frigidaire and it was troublesome.
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Post# 590-5/27/2001-23:09 ||| Arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: Not much
MESSAGE: Just wanted to see what a super surgilator looks like!
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Post# 591-5/27/2001-23:14 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (Pics)
MESSAGE: I took pictures of a lot of the same appliances. But if I am able to post mine will be somewhat different. Everyone should visit and we can have all different perspectives.
Peter
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Post# 592-5/27/2001-23:21 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (Pics)
MESSAGE: I hope you got one of the clamshell closed. My cam ate the one I took.
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Post# 593-5/27/2001-23:41 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (closed clamshell)
MESSAGE: Oh no! That's what I wanted to see too! Oh well, may just have to drop in and see it myself.
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Post# 594-5/27/2001-23:52 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD (not bug, but)
MESSAGE: I saw a dryer very similar to this at the thrift store the other day - an airflow model so it was only mildly interesting.
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Post# 595-5/27/2001-00:03 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: F&P factory
MESSAGE: arrrooohhh,
Thanks for the link, it was interesting. I wonder if they'll market the Intuitive in the States?
If it helps you to remember, my nickname is an acronym for "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" (and thus the capitalization of the significant words), the story by Philip K. Dick upon which the movie "Blade Runner" was based.
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Post# 596-5/27/2001-00:35 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Steve D-- (Here's a picture - 1969 model WXP)
MESSAGE: I found the washer you are talking about in the Tech Talk manual for 1969. The WXP had a lighted control panel as well as a work light over the washer top, window lid, dispensers for liquid detergent and fabric softener. The magnetic coil clutch provided infinite agitation and spin speeds with a range of 220 strokes per minute to 330 SPM for agitation and spin speeds of 300-1010 RPM. Self leveling rear legs were added to this model as it tips the scales at 283 pounds!
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/threeringagitator/vwp?.dir=/1979+Frigidaire+Washer+Line&.dnm=1969+WXP.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 597-5/27/2001-00:40 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Steve D-- (Here's a picture - 1969 model WXP)
MESSAGE: Oops, the strokes per minute should be 80 SPM to 330.
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/threeringagitator/vwp?.dir=/1979+Frigidaire+Washer+Line&.dnm=1969+WXP.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 598-5/27/2001-01:47 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Steve D-- (Rinse Lamp)
MESSAGE: Notice how they talk about the "Rinse Lamp", and I quote:
"The WXN Model Incorporates a lint-away rinse lamp in the console to indicate to the user when over-flow rinsing is occurring. This is the same lamp and mounting as is incorporated on the WCIN model."
Even though I think the Rinse-Lamp is super cool, I can't imagine what they were thinking when they put this feature in, it’s unbelievable.
I can see it now, at the Kravits' house, across the street from Samantha and Darrin's house:
Gladys: "Abner, my rinse-lamp just came on"
Abner: "First its flying dogs, disappearing shrubs and old ladies sitting on rooftops, NOW its "Rinse-Lamps", Gladys come take your medicine." LOLOL
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Post# 599-5/28/2001-07:24 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Scott, this is a reply to message #580 also. Scott, if I remember correctly, the owner manual specifically stated on our 1970 Model 800 to not have the water leve set below medium when using PP, but was optimum for always high water level setting. Yes, there were a series of fills & pump outs. But when lowest setting was used, there was not a large variance bgetween that lowest setting & when it drained enough to trip the reset function of the water level. On Kenmores, the machine simultaneously agitated at slow speed as it was filling during cool down--Whirlpools I played with just filled, no simultaneous agitation. At lowest setting, depending upon temp of wash water, these short spurts of fill & drain didn't add enough water to cool the water down to a tepid state, or even cold. And as it wwent through this series of events, sometimes, when the timer advanced to the 2 minutes of agitate, the water level may be "caught" right above the point of auto water level reset. This was an 8 minute series. 2 minutes of drain & begin to fill. After those two minutes, if it was still filling, agitation would cease & it would continue filling until water level setting satisfied. Once done, then it would agitate again for 2 minutes. then another 2 minute segment of drain & begin to fill. Then finally another 2 minute segment of completing fill & agitation. This was all done on slow speed. The rhythem of this patten was optimally designed for full water level only. In our house, if a less than medium, all the way down to low setting, this rhythem of events could result in the 2-minute agitation phase not neccessarily performing at the set satisfied water level setting. This was always amusing to me, watching stuff agitate at at less than desired setting. But, since at slow speed, I don't think any fabric damage was done. To me, it was kinda cool. During the first year or two of machine ownership, my mom would set every cycle for warm/warm combination. PP didn't have a "cool-down" then. Cause, it would do this process with warm water & that would also disrup the rhythem of how it was designed. Rapid water fill with warm & start to drain as timer advanced to the 2-minute agitation. Later, as it became vogue to use cold rinse to save energy in the mid-70s, mom generally used the warm/cold setting then.
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Post# 600-5/28/2001-09:05 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Steve D-- (Silly Washer Lights)
MESSAGE: Don't you love it? The green '70's Speed Queen has a "Flotation Rinse" light too - what a hoot! WP/KM had a "Filtering light" for a number of years as well. Maytag had an operating light that didn't shut off until you pushed in the dial at the end of the cycle - when you went back down to switch the wash a couple days later, the light would remind you that you have mildewed clothes waiting. Monkey Wards had an operating light on their TOL (Norge) washer - as if you couldn't hear it.
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Post# 601-5/28/2001-09:37 ||| Chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: Bug Detected!!!!!
MESSAGE: Hello Everyone??
Although I have been enjoying this site ever since it has been installed, this is my first message being posted on since its inception. But anyway, the latest bug I have detected was when I was looking at "Uni's" latest estate photos, when I have decided to go back, I was directed to a "restricted area" and I was told to click back to photos. I thought that when you click on the "back" button on your browser, it was supposed to take you back to the previous screen.
But other than that, I am enjoying the new site so far. Keep up the good work, Uni.
--Charles--
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Post# 602-5/28/2001-10:06 ||| Chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (1968 Kenmore Washer/Dryer Set)
MESSAGE: Uni:
"We'll of course being a holiday weekend, there were only 3 sales, and only one of them had anything to photograph. But there was a 1968 Kenmore washer and dryer set, at this sale, that a few of you guys would just die for!"
My Response:
Yes Uni, you are right. I think I would be one of those guys. That is a magnificent set in Avacodo. But if this is a matching set, then why is the dryer's console lower than that of the washer?? Also, I have noticed that the dryer's console has a "thin" backguard on top of its console and the washer does not. Just noticing the discrepency as I was observing the photos.
--Charles--
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Post# 603-5/28/2001-10:56 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: Steve D-- (maybe they were for the deaf?)
MESSAGE: who know sometimes with the lights they have always amused me even the KM letting you know the filter was working
PB
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Post# 604-5/28/2001-11:02 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Launderall Service Manual
MESSAGE: My Acrobat reader starts when I hit the file, but isn't able to read it. Does anyone else have the same problem? Louis
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Post# 605-5/28/2001-11:06 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (adorable house)
MESSAGE: Your Majesty,
Is that the kind of house you are looking for as a new dwelling? We found the house very cute too adn could easily imagine you living in such a house.
QLOTOC
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Post# 606-5/28/2001-11:09 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (abuse case?)
MESSAGE: Your Majesty,
In Europe we have frontloaders with one dial where also the temperature is selected through the timer. We call that a monodial system. It's mostly found on the cheaper machines.
QLOTOC
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Post# 607-5/28/2001-11:16 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: F&P factory
MESSAGE: Blade Runner, wasn't Rutger Hauer in that movie?
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Post# 608-5/28/2001-11:20 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: F&P factory
MESSAGE: Rutger may have been, but the "star" was Harrison Ford.
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Post# 609-5/28/2001-11:25 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Steve D-- (Silly Washer Lights)
MESSAGE: All washers I had until now had/has/have an operating light that doesn't shut off until you turn the washer off. Is that unusual on US washers?
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Post# 610-5/28/2001-11:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Launderall Service Manual
MESSAGE: Very Cool! In time, we'll be able to share everything with one another so everyone can follow along with pictures and service info in the restoration projects. Will there be more of the Launderall manual coming?
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Post# 611-5/28/2001-11:52 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Launderall Service Manual
MESSAGE: Louis, the link is directly to the .pdf file. Instead of left-clicking on it to open it, try right-clicking on it and select "Save Link As" (or whatever the choice is) to save the .pdf file to your hard drive. Then you can peruse it off-line whenever you want, and Acrobat Reader will open in a window unto itself instead of as a "plug-in" window inside your browser.
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Post# 612-5/28/2001-11:54 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: F&P factory
MESSAGE: Harrison Ford, Sean Young, Daryl Hannah, Rutger Hauer, Joanna Cassidy, Brion James, Edward James Olmos, M. Emmet Walsh, William Sanderson -- lots of wonderful character actors. And that fabulous Vangelis music!
LINK: http://us.imdb.com/Title?0083658
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Post# 613-5/28/2001-12:25 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Steve D-- (Here's a picture - 1969 model WXP)
MESSAGE: VERY cool! I will have to read that page! I have never seen that machine before.
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Post# 614-5/28/2001-12:27 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Steve D-- (Rinse Lamp)
MESSAGE: Well remember Greg, the Sears/RCA feature of a filter "lamp"...I suppose its kind of the same thing, marginally helpful perhaps for folks in the habit of start the washer and are able to resist looking inside, LOL
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Post# 615-5/28/2001-12:27 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Steve D-- (Silly Washer Lights)
MESSAGE: Usually, only TOL models had lights - now and then you would see a small indicator light on a washer or dryer, but the majority of models sold here had no lights at all. Some of the very first washers had "on/operating" lights like Robert's ABC, GE, etc. Recent models of Maytag Intellidry dryers had a Moisture Monitor - two blinking lights that indicated it was sensing moisture in the clothes. The less often the top light blinked, the dryer the clothes were getting. This was a fun novelty the first couple of loads, then you pretty much ignore it and take the clothes out when the buzzer sounded.
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Post# 616-5/28/2001-12:27 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Steve D-- (Silly Washer Lights)
MESSAGE: Usually, only TOL models had lights - now and then you would see a small indicator light on a washer or dryer, but the majority of models sold here had no lights at all. Some of the very first washers had "on/operating" lights like Robert's ABC, GE, etc. Recent models of Maytag Intellidry dryers had a Moisture Monitor - two blinking lights that indicated it was sensing moisture in the clothes. The less often the top light blinked, the dryer the clothes were getting. This was a fun novelty the first couple of loads, then you pretty much ignore it and take the clothes out when the buzzer sounded.
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Post# 617-5/28/2001-12:28 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Its Perl Baily... (It's Pearl Bailey... (Kenmore Print Ads))
MESSAGE: Greg:
Tell me precisely, what Kenmore machines were in these magazine ads that Pearl has appeared in?? Were these Lady Kenmores?? If so, were they posted to this site?? I haven't seen them yet. The only Pearl Bailey commercial (both on TV and in magazines) I ever seen was the one that had the Westinghouse (then, it became "White-Westinghouse") F/L washer and the matching dryer in it. As I recall correctly, the Westinghouse ad started appearing around 1976 or 1977.
--Charles--
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Post# 618-5/28/2001-12:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Its Perl Baily... (It's Pearl Bailey... (Kenmore Print Ads))
MESSAGE: I've never seen her in anything but Westinghouse advertising. The Lady Kenmore ad was with Jane Wyatt.
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Post# 619-5/28/2001-12:31 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: WOW! That is quite a process...it's interesting though, you mention "warm/warm"...Im surpised the pp cycle did not override this to use a cold rinse. I think washers today (and probably the automatic alphabet models then) would do that.
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Post# 620-5/28/2001-12:36 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Picture of the Day - Frigidaire with a lid lock!
MESSAGE: I have the WCI service manual for this machine if anyone finds one of these treasures! Ad doesn't mention that indexing tub at all - wonder why?
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Post# 621-5/28/2001-12:37 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (adorable house)
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, we would love nothing greater than a dwelling such as that, and we would take as impeccable care of it as this homemaker did. It is possible in time with a little luck and planning that such a dwelling might be possible
QEOM
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Post# 622-5/28/2001-12:42 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (abuse case?)
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, we personally find this a very convenient arrangement, but we can only surmise that since most of the later model American washers have gone to separate controls for all these functions that are set manually by the homemaker, that this is the preferred process for many. There are only a very few upper end washers left that employ the more automated process.
QEOM
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Post# 623-5/28/2001-12:56 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Bug Detected!!!!! (that's Yahoo)
MESSAGE: Hi Charles, nice to see you here. That is a problem with Yahoo Pictures, it used to happen to me in the old club too.
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Post# 624-5/28/2001-12:58 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (1968 Kenmore Washer/Dryer Set)
MESSAGE: I said "washer and dryer set" not "matching set", those two machines were not a perfect match.
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Post# 625-5/28/2001-12:59 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Launderall Service Manual (more, more)
MESSAGE: Hello Jet, we're waiting for the rest of the manual, get scanning Mr! LOL.
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Post# 626-5/28/2001-13:03 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the Day - Frigidaire with a lid lock! (I was wondering)
MESSAGE: I was wondering if that picture of the day would fool any of you guys thinking it was a GM 1/18 washer. Actually this is THE VERY FIRST WCI Washer, a 1980 model. I picked up that brochure that very first day I saw a new WCI-Frigidarie. I picked up two brochures, one to save, the other to use to wipe my tears away LOL.
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Post# 627-5/28/2001-13:12 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Launderall Service Manual (problem solved)
MESSAGE: I solved the problem, just had to upgrade the ancient computer with a newer Acrobat Reader. I still had the 2.0 version.
The Launderall is absolutely one of my favourites. Actually the toploading H-axis washers are my favourite type of washers, but I couldn't select that one in my profile (Robert??). Again I have to say that I'm still amazed the European brands haven't brought this type of washer to the US yet. I guess a lot of Americans would like the convenience of these washers. Only drama seekers will not like this type very much, because there is no view possible on things happening in the tub.
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Post# 628-5/28/2001-13:19 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: F&P factory
MESSAGE: Glenn, Rutger Hauer is a dutch actor who used to live quite near Groningen (where I live) when he still lived in Holland. Besides acting in many dutch movies he also had the main part in a dutch TV series about a young knight called Floris. It was one of my favourite TV series. Louis
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Post# 629-5/28/2001-13:24 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (adorable house)
MESSAGE: Your Majesty,
We would be happy to see you purchase such dwelling and would be very happy to pay you a state visit. We too are looking for a new place to live, but it's probably going to be a rental place since the prices of the houses went through the roof in our country.
QLOTOC
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Post# 630-5/28/2001-13:26 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (abuse case?)
MESSAGE: But such TOL washers, Your Majesty, don't have the timer type of controls, but electronic cycle selectors. Our Miele has such a control.
QLOTOC
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Post# 631-5/28/2001-13:29 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the Day - Frigidaire with a lid lock! (I was wondering)
MESSAGE: For me as an 'outsider' the dryer door is always the giveaway.
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Post# 632-5/28/2001-13:44 ||| Chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: Editing My Profile....
MESSAGE: Hello Uni:
How are you doing again?? I have posted my profile on this site. How come my information isn't showing up??
--Charles--
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Post# 633-5/28/2001-13:46 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (abuse case?)
MESSAGE: Scott, yes back in the days of alphabet washing from Kenmore, stuff was controlled in the timer. But today, I can think of only BOL washers from WCI, Whirlpool, & Kenmore, I even thinkg GE, that have water temps programmed into the timer. I personally don't like these type of arrangements, only long wash cycles have Hot shorter times end up with warm & cold. Very confining. I prefer flexibility of selecting my own time & temps. Even the current BOL Frigidaire FLer model 425 has temps only controlled in timer/cycle time. Louis, Electronic paneled washers here now (Neptune, Calypso, Amana TOL, GE Wizzards) have fabric pads that automatically set to a default temp (usually warm with cold rinse) and have a set speed combination. Slightly different, but same principal, in the washer glory days of cottons white (colorfast), cottons colored (non-colorfast) cycles.
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Post# 634-5/28/2001-13:51 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Editing My Profile....
MESSAGE: Charles, I see it just fine. Nice to have the information reinforced that I'd gathered about your history throughout our postings on the other club site.
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Post# 635-5/28/2001-13:55 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (abuse case?)
MESSAGE: Actually Bob, I was referring to the washer with a electronic dial, not the fully electronic ones. The Miele has the Novotronic dial and there is also a GE model with a dial that is not a timer. Luigi
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Post# 636-5/28/2001-13:57 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Editing My Profile.... (Editing My Profile....)
MESSAGE: Then where's it at, Appnut?? I don't see it.
--Charles--
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Post# 637-5/28/2001-14:09 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Editing My Profile.... (Editing My Profile....)
MESSAGE: Did you hit refresh/reload charles? It's there, you just need to use your browser properly.
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Post# 638-5/28/2001-14:12 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Editing My Profile.... (Missing Profile)
MESSAGE: Hey Charles, I am having the same problem. Part of mine has disappeared. It was there last night and gone today. Terry
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Post# 639-5/28/2001-14:19 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Editing My Profile.... (Missing Profile)
MESSAGE: That's strange Terry, we'll have to keep a close watch and see if we can figure out if anything is wrong. Charles profile seems fine, I've been updating my profile slowly but surely, and the new info I've added is always there. I keep a watch on your profile. You might want to type up your profile text in a word processor and save the file so you can cut and paste the text easily back in if it dissapears again.
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Post# 640-5/28/2001-15:06 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (adorable house)
MESSAGE: Unfortunately, Your Majesty, the same has happened to our homes here. That is where the "luck" and "planning" will have to come in. We do hope you will pay us a state visit at any time however regardless of the outcome of this endeavor.
QEOM
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Post# 641-5/28/2001-16:13 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Editing My Profile.... (Editing My Profile....)
MESSAGE: Unimatic:
Yes, I sure did hit my "Reload" button. My "updated" profile still isn't showing up. How come you and "Appnut" can see it but I can't??
--Charles--
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Post# 642-5/28/2001-16:30 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Editing My Profile.... (Editing My Profile....)
MESSAGE: Are you clicking on your name or on top of your browser on Profiles?
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Post# 643-5/28/2001-16:43 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Editing My Profile.... (Editing My Profile....)
MESSAGE: Unimatic (Appnut and Louis):
Now it's there. I see it now. Thanks..
--Charles--
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Post# 644-5/28/2001-17:21 ||| Syndets2000 (Nanjemoy, Md)
SUBJECT: Hi Everyone ! !
MESSAGE: Hi everyone, I just joined- LOVE the pictures, & stuff !
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Post# 645-5/28/2001-18:08 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi Everyone ! !
MESSAGE: Welcome aboard, glad to hear from you again.
Todd
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Post# 646-5/28/2001-18:30 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi Everyone ! !
MESSAGE: Robert, glad you have re-connected with us here at our new address. We have definitely moved on up.
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Post# 647-5/28/2001-19:12 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi Everyone ! ! (Hi Robert!)
MESSAGE: Hi Robert, welcome to the new club! Hope things are well out there in Westinghouse-Laundromatland.
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Post# 648-5/28/2001-19:23 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the Day - Frigidaire with a lid lock! (Pic Of The Day )
MESSAGE: I noticed right away especially when they spoke about the lid lock. By the way those horrible things did not come out until 1981. Everyone keeps saying 1980 but it wasen't until January 1981 when the first started to be distributed to the stores. I remember because I had spoke to 2 sales people from 2 different sources in Oct 1980 that said WCI was going to make improvments to it's designs and they would be rolled out the first of the new year (1981). I personally thought all this wonderful things were going to happen. Even the appliance people were shocked. No body ever thought something like this would happen.
Peter
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Post# 649-5/28/2001-19:23 ||| Austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: Site changes are great!
MESSAGE: I like the new additions to the site Robert, Thanks!
Todd
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Post# 650-5/28/2001-19:30 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Steve D-- (1969 Tall Model )
MESSAGE: I like this tall model - I wish they had made them for the 1/18's.
Peter
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Post# 651-5/28/2001-19:54 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: Trip to Maryland Part 2
MESSAGE: I also wanted to let everyone know aside from spending time at the museum I spent all Saturday afternoon with Tom doing Laundry in his washers. We used the Unimatic & I have to tell you all Tom is the best spray rinser in the whole world. In his Maytag 102 he found awhile ago with the time fill he washed a load of real dirty rags. It was a interesting washer, but it realy didn't clean the dirty rags. Next he put these white rags in his Creda & set the temp for 200 degrees - The cycle took close to 2 hours. But boy did those rags come out clean. The Euro design is definatly designed to realy clean without bleach. We also did a load of sheets in a late 60's rapid dry. Real cool to watch. Plus he rinsed 2 loads in the Miele. Real interesting afternoon. I put in my pictures to be developed today & should be ready by the end of the week - I am getting them on CD also. So I will do the best I can to post. Happy wash day everyone.
Peter
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Post# 652-5/28/2001-19:58 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the Day - Frigidaire with a lid lock! (you're right)
MESSAGE: Thanks Peter, you're right about 1981, now that it think about it was in October of '81 that I saw them and pick up that brochure.
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Post# 653-5/28/2001-19:58 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Site changes are great!
MESSAGE: Thanks Todd, more to come.
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Post# 654-5/28/2001-20:49 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Tom's Unimatics
MESSAGE: We'll Tom's 1958 Unimatic transmission is back together and runs beautifully. We have lots of oil pressure and its very quite, that mechanism now is in very good shape again. As for the earlier 1952 model, its almost done, but I unfortunately I need one more part. Tom please see the second picture in the link below(be sure to select full size) for more info.
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/miscbrands00/lst?&.dir=/Tom+Unimatics&.src=ph&.view=t&.last=1
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Post# 655-5/28/2001-20:58 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator
MESSAGE: We'll of all things to be behind on, I was very behind on the laundry. After spending some time out in the beautiful weather today, it was time to go to the basement and do some work down there including WASH. I pulled the Norge Burp-a-lator agitator out of the attic cause I haven't used it in a few years. Here's a real treat for you guys, especially for those who have never seen a pump-up filter agitator before...
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/miscbrands00/lst?&.dir=/Norge+Burp-a-lator&.src=ph&.view=t&.last=1
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Post# 656-5/28/2001-21:12 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the Day - Frigidaire with a lid lock! (you're right)
MESSAGE: I wonder then why they were already appearing in the 1979 tech talk. They must have continued selling the 1979 1-18s into 1980.
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Post# 657-5/28/2001-21:22 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom's Unimatics
MESSAGE: Robert, Is it possible to use an easy out to remove the broken screw or even drill it out and rethread it or use a helicoil?
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Post# 658-5/28/2001-21:24 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the Day - Frigidaire with a lid lock! (Frigidaire Tech Talk )
MESSAGE: Yes Scott - they did sell the 1/18 until early 1981. Are you sure in the tech talk it was the WCI washer. When I think back to the late part of 1980 and their was talk of changes comming nobody seemed to know about what was about to happen until after the fact. Thats one of the reasons the looks were the the same. And their claim to fame after the fact in mid 1981 was that they washed just as well as the GM models did. I remember 1 salesman said he had a arguement with a wci rep saying he was supposed to tell people that these new monsters were just as good as the 1/18. The guy told me he would do no such thing. Actually most people at that time felt they already had Westinghouse TL & what did they need to sell this for. Also frigidaire stock went way down & all of it's business went to maytag & whirlpool.
Peter
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Post# 659-5/28/2001-21:26 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (Norge)
MESSAGE: Robert,
I realy love this Norge.
Peter
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Post# 660-5/28/2001-21:34 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (Really neat Robert)
MESSAGE: Hi Robert, that Burp-a-lator is the coolest!! Never knew that Norge had anything like that. When did it come out. Hope we can see this in action at the convention. Terry
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Post# 661-5/28/2001-21:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom's Unimatics (maybe, but)
MESSAGE: Hi Jason, this one is very touchy. First off all the screw was really bonded in there, one of the worse I've ever seen. So an "easy out" wouldn't work. You could try to drill it out and re-tap it, but you need to use a screw that's one size up and the Unimatic pump screw is a very particular part because of the way it fits into the pump impeller. As for a helicoil, I've never heard of that what it is?
Of course, if we didn't have a backup, I could figure out something, but its best to use standard parts and procedures if they are available.
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Post# 662-5/28/2001-21:53 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (Really neat Robert)
MESSAGE: Thanks Terry, of course we'll see it in action at the convention, Seeing-it-in-Action is what this convention is going to be all about! I believe the Filter-Agitator came out around 1960.
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Post# 663-5/28/2001-21:54 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: FOUND: A graveyard in rural Georgia
MESSAGE: It was one of those, "STOP THE CAR, RICH-ARD!" monents (Hyasant Bouquet persona). Needless to say, Rhinnie and I were about an hour checknig it out. Will definitely be returning. Only about an hour from home, too.
Had very little juice left in my battery, but here is a sample of the place.
http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/svb14_1953?d&.flabel=fld12&.intl=us&.src=ph&start=1
Hope the link works.
Steve1-18
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Post# 664-5/28/2001-21:54 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: Link to the grave yard
MESSAGE: ooops!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/svb14_1953?d&.flabel=fld12&.intl=us&.src=ph&start=1
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Post# 665-5/28/2001-22:03 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the Day - Frigidaire with a lid lock! (Frigidaire Tech Talk )
MESSAGE: Peter, maybe Greg will post it sometime. You're right: I'm sure of those people who did buy that Westinghouse-Frigidaire krap, very few if any of them had owned a GM Frigidaire product. The vast majority of those folks as you noted moved on to other brands after this travesty. Scott
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Post# 666-5/28/2001-22:06 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Link to the grave yard
MESSAGE: Fabulous! I saw that later 40" Frigidaire range, and that Coppertone Sears washer is probably the same very nice one we saw in avacado yesterday! It will be interesting to hear what you find when you return again! Is it the back end of a store type thing, or ? Scott
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Post# 667-5/28/2001-22:37 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: FOUND: A graveyard in rural Georgia (Ingredients for a dream come true!!)
MESSAGE: How fun! Looks like it will be a few trips for you to the graveyard hauling home treasures! How many more machines do you have room for? I guess that's a silly question! I hope some dreams come true in that field - great find, congrats!
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Post# 668-5/28/2001-22:51 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: FOUND: A graveyard in rural Georgia (wow)
MESSAGE: Very Cool Steve, thanks for the pictures. It brings back memories of the SD farm.
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Post# 669-5/28/2001-22:55 ||| Chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: Okay, about my profile again.....
MESSAGE: I have since corrected a spelling error, and added some new information to my profile, how do I get my profile to show the new information as well??
--Charles--
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Post# 670-5/28/2001-23:07 ||| Chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Okay, about my profile again..... (Nevermind.......)
MESSAGE: It's there now. All I got to do is click on the "Reload" button on my browser about 2 or 3 times, and then the information finally shows up.
Thanks.......
--Charles--
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Post# 671-5/28/2001-23:32 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom's Unimatics (maybe, but)
MESSAGE: Hi Robert, A Helicoil is an insert made out of strong steel that use to repair threads. What you do is drill out the bolt or screw with the same size drill bit as the screw. Then you thread the hole the tap that comes with the helicoil kit. Add a few drops of Locktite red (nonremoveable) and install the Helicoil with the installer tool. Then you reassemble everytihng useing the same size screw as original. In fact it is even stronger than original because of the design of the coil. It almost works like a double locknut because you have the threads you already tapped in for the helicoil and then you have the threads of the helicoil itself. The screw or bolt threads into the coil putting preasure on the coil in turn putting preasure on the tapped threads. With the locktite it will never fail. You can pick up a kit at your auto parts store.
I have used this many, many times to repair damaged threads in an engine block for the head bolts and in the heads for the rocker arm studs. So far they have all been able to keep on holding for 6+ years even torqued to over 100 foot pounds.
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Post# 672-5/28/2001-00:26 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (Thanks again Uni!)
MESSAGE: That was the best thing I have seen in ages. I really enjoyed that. Those norge agitators remind me od old simpson agitators, with those little "ears" up the top of the shaft.
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Post# 673-5/29/2001-02:52 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom's Unimatics (maybe, but)
MESSAGE: Hqots, that's an excellent idea. Robert, the Helicoil system is easy and bullet proof. I too have used them on engine blocks for cylinder head bolts. The Helicoil is actually a hi-tensil spring. The outside of the spring fits the new threads that you tap, the inside fits your original bolt/screw. When you buy the Helicoil kit, it will specify what drill bit to drill with. I like to buy a bit and just keep it with the kit, that way it's always fresh (and I can find it). You can also "stack" the Helicoils in a hole that needs really deep threads, by putting more than one coil in. They take about 10min. to install, including drilling. You select the kit based on the dia. and thread pitch of your bolt/screw.
When you drill, drill at a slow speed and use some kind of lube as you apply medium pressure. A new titanium bit, at a slow/med speed, with some spray lube will cut right through that old screw. You may be able to increase your drill bit size a step at a time until you have the old screw drilled almost to its threads. Then try your easy out on that. If it doesn't work, your just a step away from having drilled large enough to use the Helicoil.
Todd
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Post# 674-5/29/2001-04:41 ||| Chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: Signing In
MESSAGE: Hi Everyone,
Congratulations on the fantastic Web Site, very topical & colourful and a whirl (or should that be swirl) to use.
Hope you are all checking your hoses ready for the convention!!!
You`ve given us Brits on the other side of the water a kick into tracking our own appliance history etc and logging it on the web. About six of us at the moment, will give you a link when we get more info.
Keep up the good work and chat.
Cheers for now, Mike
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Post# 675-5/29/2001-06:06 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: Signing In (Nice to see internationals)
MESSAGE: I lived in Germany for two years and spent most of my time looking at washing machine there i was very impressed with the diffrent types but never got to see any in action till I got my own front loader. Its nice that we have an international flair amounst us (excuse the spelling )
Welcome to the appliance ville
Philippe
AKA riverstud
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Post# 676-5/29/2001-06:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom's Unimatics (maybe, but)
MESSAGE: We'll thanks Jason, that sounds very interesting! Even if Tom sends a new rotor or new motor, I will keep the old Rotor and experiment with a helicoil kit. I'll let you know how it goes.
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Post# 677-5/29/2001-06:54 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom's Unimatics (very interesting)
MESSAGE: I've drilled out screws many-a-times. But I've never heard of this helicoil. I love titanium drill bits, they make the work so much easier. I give this all a try and take some pictures as I doing it.
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Post# 678-5/29/2001-06:56 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Signing In
MESSAGE: We'll hi Mike! Welcome to the club, please tell those other 6 British members about this site, we would love to hear from them as well.
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Post# 679-5/29/2001-07:04 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Signing In (Servis Logo)
MESSAGE: Sounds like you're a big Servis fan Mike, if you have a vintage Servis logo scan it and email it to me and I will turn it into wallpaper for you. Or if you know of a internet web address with the Service logo, I can capture it right off of there?
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Post# 680-5/29/2001-09:37 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: POTD Hotpoint DW
MESSAGE: Okay, I must confess, I'm assuming it's an impeller dishwasher. However, I've never seen an impeller with such a "flexible" racking arrangement for the bottom rack. Turbo, or anyone else that would know, how did it have the second "deck" of water source if this was impeller. I see that saucer tower thing in the bottom rack, but I'm clueless and want to be enlightened. After all, isn't that what it's all about here too--educating us on our deficiencies of vintage appliances? And BTW, I hope these POTDs are inclines as to what we'll see completely in brochures area.
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Post# 681-5/29/2001-09:50 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: 1962 KM dryer working
MESSAGE: Saturday and Sunday were beautiful days and I spent them at the 'mat. Monday was to be my day off to work on appliances, and it rains all day! Because my work would be outside in the carport, I opted instead to clean house. But I did get the '62 KM dryer going...
I replaced the door switch, and with a squeal the machine started right up and runs fine. However, the lights are still flakey, sometimes on, sometimes off. The dryer also seems to have some pretty wild temperature swings. Anyone have good ideas for monitoring and adjusting temp swings? Lastly, there must have been some kind of gasket around the lint screen which is either missing or is worn out, because I'm getting a heck of a lot hot, humid air output thru the top of the dryer.
The house sounds like it's ready to take off with the 1-18 pounding away and the dryer roaring. No wonder why laundries were in basements or out in the garage!
Pics will be posted the next time I use the laptop to get online...
-ph
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Post# 682-5/29/2001-10:29 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Miss Lady K is ill again...... (10 car pile up)
MESSAGE: Jason, A ten car pile up would be quite a dramatic event in that end of your house. Tom
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Post# 683-5/29/2001-10:36 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: New member (RE: New member (Lifetime obsession ))
MESSAGE: Where bouts in the Atlanta area do you live? I grew up in the Decatur/Avondale area. Tom
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Post# 684-5/29/2001-10:42 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set
MESSAGE: Peter, and the control panel is a heavy piece of diecast metal that is chrome around the outer edges and black on some inside surfaces (forget exactly where)? Friends had a set. Tom
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Post# 685-5/29/2001-10:43 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: How Does the Picture of the Day Work?
MESSAGE: is this catch or something involving drainage via tubes? Tom
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Post# 686-5/29/2001-10:49 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (washer drama)
MESSAGE: Robert, there is an A+ for washer drama. I sure want to have a look at the Norge on the washer convention. Louis
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Post# 687-5/29/2001-10:52 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: i forget what i was going to say?
MESSAGE: Besides Jeff, look at all that the youngsters missed that we got to touch and even play with. Tom
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Post# 688-5/29/2001-10:54 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Another logo suggestion (Another question)
MESSAGE: That M in a circle in on the front of my 61 or 62 Highlander 102. I think it was supposed to look modren (not a typo)or something. Tom
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Post# 689-5/29/2001-10:58 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: FOUND: A graveyard in rural Georgia (Hyacinth)
MESSAGE: Sweety dahlink, the woman's name is Hyacinth and not... All the sisters have flower names and I think she would very appaled reading her name spelled in the wrong way. And furthermore I don't think that she would have such a moment at an appliance graveyard. Such a place would be more suitable for Onslow. I think I already hear Daisy shouting "STOP THE CAR, ONSLOW". Probably Rose in the back wondering if the dishy vicar would be around.
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Post# 690-5/29/2001-12:04 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Link to the grave yard
MESSAGE: These appliance graveyards are really something. You don't see them overhere, appliances are dismantled as soon as possible. There is a place nearby where I sometimes look over the fence, but there is not a lot to see. Last year a new system was introduced. You pay a removal tax when you buy a new appliance. In return for that appliance dealers have to take old appliances back. In the past they sometimes refused to take old appliances back, but they have to now. No more old washers on the street for the hunters. Steve, thank you for the pictures.
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Post# 691-5/29/2001-12:21 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Signing In (Hoover Keymatic picture)
MESSAGE: Hi Mike, I saw in your profile that one of your dream machines is the Hoover Keymatic. I have been considering buying such a machine, but I didn't buy it in the end because I didn't have a decent place to put it. I got a scan of the front page of the manual sent though and thought you might like the picture. Perhaps you have already seen it, it was already in my picture album. Louis
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius?e&.intl=us&.flabel=fld1&.from=d&.pindex=12&start=1&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius%3fd%26.flabel=fld1%26.intl=us%26.src=ph
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Post# 692-5/29/2001-12:49 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD Hotpoint DW (Hotpoint's 1st)
MESSAGE: Nope Bob, this is Hotpoints very first dishwasher with a spray arm, sans impeller.
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Post# 693-5/29/2001-13:05 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD Hotpoint DW (Hotpoint's 1st)
MESSAGE: Thanks Robert. Got me all excited, my new piece of info I've learned for the day.
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Post# 694-5/29/2001-13:22 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 KM dryer working
MESSAGE: Sounds like you need a new thermostat peter, that would probably correct temp swing problem. Those disk type thermostats are readily available and they are cheap. As for the seal around the filter, try some closed cell foam.
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Post# 695-5/29/2001-13:28 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD Hotpoint DW (Hotpoint's 1st)
MESSAGE: Did this machine have an over the top spray that came out of one corner and sprayed across a rippled pattern in the top of the DW to scatter the spray? I recently saw this in an old HP machine. Looked kinda ineffective to me...
-ph
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Post# 696-5/29/2001-13:28 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Steve D-- (Rinse Lamp)
MESSAGE: The Lint Away Rinse light made as much sense as Kenmore's Filtering light. Tom
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Post# 697-5/29/2001-14:18 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD Hotpoint DW (Hotpoint's 1st)
MESSAGE: Peter, my first apt. in college had a 60s HP dishwasher with that corner spray. To my knowledge and observation (I tripped the lock lever so it ran with the door open), I thought it only "worked" during the fill part of each phase. If it actually had water pumping through it while it was "washing" it sure did a piss-poor job. Always had rice collected in the tops of mugs & indentions of glass tops. From one ad I saw, I thought this corner "sprayer's" purpose was to start rinsing the dishes before the pump started. It was a joke from my experience. The machine was about 6 years old, at most, when I had it in the residence.
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Post# 698-5/29/2001-15:57 ||| jaxcubb (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: New member (RE: New member )
MESSAGE: Tom, I live in the Woodstock area, not too far from PeterH770's laundromat :-)
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Post# 699-5/29/2001-17:58 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: New member (RE: New member )
MESSAGE: Welcome to the club, were you a member of the Yahoo club before? Hope you enjoy this site as much as I do. Louis
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Post# 700-5/29/2001-19:15 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Favorite/Personal Quote in Profile
MESSAGE: Would it be difficult to add a favorite/personal quote into the profile section? That was kind of fun in the yahoo system - at some point in the future, maybe a personal photo would be fun too.
No hurry, just suggestions.
"Cleanliness...so essential to family well being, so easily achieved with a Blackstone."
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Post# 701-5/29/2001-19:45 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator
MESSAGE: Robert, how similar is this version of burp-up to the one that was used in later norges--was the same process used to get the water to the top or another process?
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Post# 702-5/29/2001-20:05 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: How Does the Picture of the Day Work?
MESSAGE: I meant to say, we'll have to catch the picture of the day at your house once we arrive. And believe me, it's gonna take me the better part of the day to get there.
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Post# 703-5/29/2001-20:08 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (washer drama)
MESSAGE: Robert, I hope we get to see both agitators in action. I loved the gasping the pump made during the wash cycles on the coin op timelines I used to see from age 4 until age 9 at neighborhood laudries.
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Post# 704-5/29/2001-20:38 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (cool burps)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the great pictures, Robert. My aunt had a burp-up Norge from the early 60's...same agitator and the small solid tub. Her filter was aqua. I loved to watch that thing wash, the burp-up action was so cool and the sound it made was fun too. Add the overflow rinse and you have great water drama.
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Post# 705-5/29/2001-20:57 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: How Does the Picture of the Day Work?
MESSAGE: It's worth the travel and associated hassle that comes with it - this is our very own jihad! (sp?) You will remember this weekend like your first washer memory!
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Post# 706-5/29/2001-20:58 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: AKKKKK Internet not working!!!
MESSAGE: What an awful day today was. My poor Roadrunner got ran over and it still is not working. Someone cut a big cable and they are still fixing it. So now I am here with AOL and the free trial. This is just awful. Kinda like washing in a WCI. Oh well I hope it will be back on tomorrow.
Night guys.
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Post# 707-5/29/2001-21:04 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 KM dryer working (Thermostats and seals)
MESSAGE: That depends if you were running the dryer with no clothes or with clothes. The thermostats on an empty dryer will top off at about 150-155, the low heat thermostats top off at 140-150. The only way to really check the stat s to have a wet load in the dryer. Even a 5 degree swing is not that bad.
Every time I get a Kenpool dryer I take it all apart and clean everything. I also make new seals for the blower housing and air intake. You would not believe the difference in how fast it dries the clothes.
Jason
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Post# 708-5/29/2001-21:44 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 KM dryer working
MESSAGE: My 1960 WP dryer blows air around the lint filter and out the top filter door. I've thought of the closed cell foam, but since the filter must be removed and replaced, it is subjected it to constant back and forth friction (oh my!) The foam may not last for long mounted around the top of the filter in place of, or in conjunction with the existing worn felt seal. You could put the foam strips inside the filter sleeve, but the same wearing issues are present there too. The orginal felt seal is sandwiched between the handle plate and the filter pan and riveted into place.
I've come to the conclusion that a nice "day of the week" dishtowel folded and placed over the lint filter door solves the problem - and is pretty too!
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Post# 709-5/29/2001-21:45 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: How Does the Picture of the Day Work?
MESSAGE: I know it Greg and it's gonna be worth every sacrifice I'm having to make to do it. I'm just afraid in the excitement of the day, I may miss the POTD, which I love the surprises. It's a new way for me to become more enlightened & knowledgeable.
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Post# 710-5/29/2001-22:17 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Good Morning Down Under
MESSAGE: Hello Arrrooohhh, this wallpaper is made especially for you!
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Post# 711-5/29/2001-22:46 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (not positive)
MESSAGE: I'm not positive about the mechanics between the early Norge Filter-Agitators and the ones from the 70's Appnut, but they both sure did pump up a lot of water.
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Post# 712-5/29/2001-23:30 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 KM dryer working (lint screen seal)
MESSAGE: Greg, automotive/furniture upholstry supply stores have all kinds of cool felts and jutes in different thicknesses that would work just great. You could "dig" your old remaining felt out from its sandwhich mount, cut a rectanglular ring of the new felt, and push it back into place. If you really wanted to go crazy, you could go buy a cheapo rivet gun, drill out the rivets and do it that way.
Todd
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Post# 713-5/29/2001-23:37 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 KM dryer working (lint screen seal)
MESSAGE: The automotive felt is a great idea - will have to remember that. Someday, when I've nothing else to do....
I picked up some filters of this style from the parts shop I go to, so may have to play with some of those first. The one that's in the machine is in beautiful shape, except the felt seals.
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Post# 714-5/29/2001-00:00 ||| Arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Good Morning Down Under (Hooray!!)
MESSAGE: Thanx heaps Uni! You are a true legend!
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Post# 715-5/29/2001-00:06 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: More washers on the Web
MESSAGE: I found this link tonight looking for more info on the Canadian brand Beatty. Interesting article on the history of laundry and evolution to today's equipment. Of particular interest was the "spin cycle" section.
LINK: http://www.science-tech.nmstc.ca/english/collection/washing_machines.cfm
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Post# 716-5/29/2001-01:35 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the Day - Frigidaire with a lid lock! (Indexing tub)
MESSAGE: Hey guys. On Austrlian westinghouses, the indexing tub WAS promoted as a feature. It was called the "Double Wash Action"
I know beacuse those words with two arched arrows pointting the opposite direction were featured prominently on the control panel. My Aunty had one and I must admit, It was one of my favourote machines to watch.
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Post# 717-5/29/2001-01:37 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: I cant see any of my postings
MESSAGE: I posted three messages but I dont see them on the screen. Is that meant to be? Has anyone read them?
Thanx for your help.
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Post# 718-5/30/2001-02:16 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Signing In (keyplates)
MESSAGE: Louis
Thanks for showing us the pic, I think the keymatic was so ahead of its time in 1961, the first time I saw one was at a local convent, (no wasnt on the turn ha! ha!). Our school was run by local nuns and the Headmistress introduced a saturday morning garden club, pupils would attend and they got the hard work done for free and you learned about plants.
The garden store was next to the laundry and thats when I first saw one in action. From that point on was I the best gardener ever!!Every opportunity to was used to visit the store for a change of tools.
The Brit guys are busy trying to track one down at the moment and any literature. The bets are on to find out the following info on it:
Did the machine have two motors one for drum and one for wash paddle?? or a gearbox thingy?
What spin speed was it?? we thought about 740rpm as it was a few years later that Hoover made a marketing feature of the 800 rpm machines.
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 719-5/30/2001-02:17 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: More washers on the Web
MESSAGE: Greg, thank you for the link, that was quite interesting. I guess they forgot about the Frigidaire in the spin section. Louis
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Post# 720-5/30/2001-02:18 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: More washers on the Web
MESSAGE: That was pretty gool Ganski, but did you find anything on Beatty???
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Post# 721-5/30/2001-02:20 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: I cant see any of my postings
MESSAGE: Hitting the refresh button might help.
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Post# 722-5/30/2001-02:25 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Signing In (Big favour to ask you)
MESSAGE: Louis that is so cool! I love Keymatics and I have found some old pictures of the Keymatic,(which I will post ASAP) as well as a consumer magazine report from the sixites in which the Keymatic came equal first. I want to look for one of these machines one day when i get my own space.
Is it asking too much for you to scan the other pages from the manual????? Please??? Pretty Please????
If you do I will be eternally grateful for your kind deed.
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Post# 723-5/30/2001-02:25 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Signing In (keyplates)
MESSAGE: Mike, I'm sorry to disappoint you, the owners were frugal with the information, believe it or not, they didn't know a thing about it. Actually I was surprised they sent me the picture. So I can't tell you anything about two motors or a tranny and nothing about the spinspeed. Although I have been interested in washers all my life, I didn't know about the Hoover Keymatic. I don't think the Keymatic was sold that much overhere in the Netherlands. Perhaps a few were imported or perhaps this one came from a family that moved from the UK to here. Just guessing though. Louis
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Post# 724-5/30/2001-02:27 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (Your wash load?)
MESSAGE: I notice you wash a lot of flaneelette! Sorry for being nosy like that. Just be glad you dont live in Sydney as flannelette has very negative connontations.
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Post# 725-5/30/2001-02:30 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Signing In (Big favour to ask you)
MESSAGE: Well Harry Hoover, I'm sorry to disappoint you, the manual was scanned by the owners and they only sent me the frontpage by e-mail, so I have only the frontpage. I'm also sorry to tell you that I don't have their e-mail address anymore, so I can't ask them for the rest. Louis
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Post# 726-5/30/2001-02:40 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: Welcome
MESSAGE: I just saw Jeff 'Adelphi' signed up for this club and wanted to say welcome to him.
Jeff, I remember searching the mailinglists (now Yahoo groups) on appliances and found yours. It never got further than three members (it still exists!). You had the wonderful idea to start a club at Yahoo and it was the basis for a wonderful group of people that shares their interest and love for appliances. If I hadn't found your mailinglist then I might never have found the club. I just wanted to thank you here Jeff and hope you enjoy this site. Louis
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Post# 727-5/30/2001-02:43 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: Kelvinator song
MESSAGE: A wonderful new section Robert, the Vintage Appliance Audio section. I love the Kelvinator song. I guess it's too long to serve as a commercial? Was it on a promotion record?
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Post# 728-5/30/2001-03:20 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: More washers on the Web (Beatty's)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg, in 1874 the Beatty bros. (George and Matthew) formed a company in Fergus, Ont Canada that produced mainly farm equipment. By the 1930's, they expanded to produce over 600 items, including wringer washers. In 1969, shareholders amalgamated the Beatty co. with General Steel Wares, thus GSW Ltd. was formed. They contined to produce both wringer washers, automatic washers and dryers well into the late 70's or early '80's. A friend of mine has a late 40's Beatty wringer, and I have a '78 model as well as a 1958 pair of Beatty automatics. Here's a link to see the Beatty wringers.
Eddy
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/eddy1210/lst?&.dir=/Beatty+wringers&.src=ph&.view=t&.last=1
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Post# 729-5/30/2001-03:29 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Hoover VS Dyson vacuum cleaners
MESSAGE: Do you have Dysons in the States?
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Post# 730-5/30/2001-05:01 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT: RE: Hoover VS Dyson vacuum cleaners
MESSAGE: There are no Dysons in the states that im aware of. I'd never heard of them till someone in the club began talking about them.
SD
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Post# 731-5/30/2001-06:56 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (flaneelette??)
MESSAGE: Hi Arrrooohhh, what's flaneelette? I took another look at that picture and the only thing washed that was flannel was those pajama bottoms. It's way to warm here now to wear anything real flannel. What the connotation of flannelette in Sydney?
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Post# 732-5/30/2001-06:58 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome
MESSAGE: Welcome to the club Jeff. Does everyone realize that Jeff is John's brother, the John that lives across the street from Tomturbo.
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Post# 733-5/30/2001-07:00 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinator song
MESSAGE: Yes, that's exactly what it was on. I bought the record on ebay. The other side has a message for salesmen, which is just a scream. I will digitize that later on in the week.
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Post# 734-5/30/2001-07:05 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: More washers on the Web (Wrong Again)
MESSAGE: All my life I've seen information on the history of the washing machine, in print, in various forms and most of the time, its completely wrong! Here is just another example.
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Post# 735-5/30/2001-07:17 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the Day - Frigidaire with a lid lock! (Indexing tub)
MESSAGE: Many of the members of this club have a seething hatred of those Franklin design machines. Their reliability is terrible and although I haven't worked on one, I've heard many bad things from repair people. It would be fun to play with a vintage top loader of this style, but the new machines produced by White Consolidated Ind./Frigidaire/Electrolux in the States are mostly just junk.
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Post# 736-5/30/2001-07:23 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: More washers on the Web
MESSAGE: Not really. I was looking (usually in vain) to find out who made their automatics for them. It sounds like Beatty Brothers Company offered a wide range of products for the home and farm, but I was unable to nail down those appliances. It appears to me from looking at pictures of Eddy's Beatty washer that they are of Beam design. Mechanically, they bear striking resemblances to the first Hotpoints, Easy, among others that were produced (probably to spec.) by Beam. I also don't know much about the Beam company itself - would probably help to start there. Doing some work on the 1954 Speed Queen and studying repair manuals for SQ, early Hotpoint and Easy has sparked this interest. If anyone has more info, I'd appreciate some enlightenment! Thanks - Greg
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Post# 737-5/30/2001-07:27 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: More washers on the Web (Beatty's)
MESSAGE: I was studying your pictures of the Beatty (and that beautiful wringer washer) last night when I stopped working on my many projects for the evening. I was looking to see whose design that was - looks like the early Beam designs - or an adaptation of it.
Those machines are beautiful Eddy - what treasures!
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Post# 738-5/30/2001-07:28 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: More washers on the Web (Wrong Again)
MESSAGE: The author of the article holds a Masters degree - obviously not in "Research!"
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Post# 739-5/30/2001-07:34 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinator song
MESSAGE: You can hear the "WHOOSHES!"
I love it! Thanks Robert -
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Post# 740-5/30/2001-07:38 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 KM dryer working (Thermostats and seals)
MESSAGE: Speed is not a problem. Sheets were dry in two shakes of a lamb's tail, and most everything else in about 40 minutes. But while the clothes are wet/damp, they don't get hot, but when they dry, boy they could ignite. I really noticed it with my dress khakis. I had the temp set to Delicate, and when I went to check them at the 15 minute mark, they were scorching hot! Even after dialing the heat back to Air, they were still quite warm after the cycle was over...
-ph
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Post# 741-5/30/2001-07:46 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 KM dryer working
MESSAGE: Greg,
LOL! I'm using a tablecloth that I keep meaning to iron on top of the filter door! Actually, this dryer and the 1-18 next to it double as my "kitty watering" area - the place I give my 2 kidney failure cats their fluids and meds, so there's a thick, soft blanket on top of the dryer also.
-ph
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Post# 742-5/30/2001-07:47 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: More washers on the Web
MESSAGE: Are you sure about that Beam resemblance of the Beatty Greg? I think Beatty might have designed and produced their own machine. The pump is looks different as well as the transmission.
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Post# 743-5/30/2001-08:00 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator
MESSAGE: WOW! Robert, the way you can catch those splash shots you could have a great career working with the talent at Bel Ami, only the stroke is less predictable. I remember the salesman demonstrating that filter with pieces of Kleenex tissue that he threw into the washer. Norge was rated as one of the best cleaning machines by CU in 58 and was included with the Frigidaires in their follow-up report in 59 of the best cleaners one year later. Tom
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Post# 744-5/30/2001-08:06 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom's Unimatics (maybe, but)
MESSAGE: Never let it be said that Jason did not know how to put the screws to anything. Tom
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Post# 745-5/30/2001-08:09 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: More washers on the Web (Beatty-Beam)
MESSAGE: That pump is similar (with the clip/thumbscrew closure) to pics I have of the Easy, SQ & Hotpoint, but the transmission is different and there is no fluid drive clutch. Maybe Eddy can shed some light on this... I was interested after we talked about this machine in Rockford, but am unable to find any info. Do you have any early Beam info?
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Post# 746-5/30/2001-08:23 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD Hotpoint DW
MESSAGE: Bob, with this machine HP dws came in two styles, but the same motor. On top of the motor shaft there was either the impeller in the cheaper machines or a pump about the size of a bowl that fit in the same place. The pump was run at a slower speed (1400 or 1700 rpm) than a regular pump like in a KA which went at 3400 rpm. The wash arm was black plastic with wide slots since the "filter" was only the small holes on the underside of this sort of saucer-size pump. As for the orange sprayer, its water feed coupled much the same as the later towers in HP and WP dws to get the water from the center of the spray arm. I have a later model of this, but have yet to find the DW with the orange water disk. Tom
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Post# 747-5/30/2001-08:26 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator
MESSAGE: Yeah, but look at the size of the agitator compared to the size of the tub! It's no wonder Norge got good ratings, as clothes didn't stand a chance in there! I bet the only saving grace is that the vanes were rounded and so maybe a bit less harsh with less sharp edges. Putting jeans in the Norge would certainly be a harder wrestling match than the jeans in the Maytag AMP (Robert's short video).
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Post# 748-5/30/2001-08:27 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 KM dryer working
MESSAGE: Peter, because the old design dryer blew air through the filter instead of sucking it through like the newer design, the gasket at the top was important. Originally it was felt and wore out. You can still get a new filter. It is about $20 dealer cost. If you are good with tools, you can get the top part of the filter apart sometimes and glue new felt there and screw the thing back together. Tom
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Post# 749-5/30/2001-08:32 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD Hotpoint DW (Hotpoint's 1st)
MESSAGE: Peter, that was the way it filled. The corner spray replaced the round disk in the top center of the tank that had vanes on it and spun the water out across the racks. Tom
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Post# 750-5/30/2001-08:36 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the Day - Frigidaire with a lid lock! (Frigidaire with a lid lock)
MESSAGE: I think it would have been fine if it just kept to Westinghouse TL but the fact that WCI made it Frigidaire also is whats sux.
Peter
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Post# 751-5/30/2001-08:45 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: More washers on the Web
MESSAGE: Greg, they kinda didn't get it right with that bit about motor speed, did they? All it took was a tranny with an agitate shaft and a spin shaft. Shifting of the tub from the agitate shaft to the spin position via a pedal was shown on washers in the US in the late 30s. Granted the spin speed was not great and got things about as far from dripping as a wringer, but it was not motor speed that was the factor. Incidentally, that is not me in spin rinse/flapper mode. Tom
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Post# 752-5/30/2001-08:50 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (Your wash load?)
MESSAGE: You must give us all the dirt on flannel. Tom
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Post# 753-5/30/2001-08:55 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 KM dryer working (Thermostats and seals)
MESSAGE: Peter, it could be that the operating thermostat is not working at all and the dryer is cycling on the high limit thermostat. tom
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Post# 754-5/30/2001-09:01 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator
MESSAGE: Thanks Tom, it wasn't easy to catch those "splash shots" actually Tom. I must have taken 60 pictures and only a few them out the way I wanted. The problem is when you press the shutter button on the camera there is a slightly delay before the picture is taken, so I just had to keep snapping until I got one right in the middle of the "burp"!
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Post# 755-5/30/2001-09:43 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (lid logo?)
MESSAGE: Robert: does it say "safety spin" on the Norge lid? Is that a reference to a fast tub brake?
-ph
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Post# 756-5/30/2001-10:35 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator
MESSAGE: I'm glad we voted the Norge into the next video shoot!
-ph
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Post# 757-5/30/2001-11:12 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (lid logo?)
MESSAGE: Peter, it refers to the lid switch which prevents spinning when the lid is opened. Tom
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Post# 758-5/30/2001-11:37 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinator song
MESSAGE: That's great! Can't wait to hear the other side. I've got a Westy record I'll have to play now. That section of the site should be alot of fun. Time to get my dryer's music box working.
Todd
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Post# 759-5/30/2001-11:40 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator
MESSAGE: Ya Robert great job on the action shots. I know that's hard to do with the Sony's. My brother and I were trying to take some the other day and had to anticipate that delay. It seems like that kind of wash action would really do a good job cleaning.
Todd
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Post# 760-5/30/2001-11:57 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator
MESSAGE: That's the way most photographers do it.
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Post# 761-5/30/2001-12:42 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (lid logo?)
MESSAGE: Hi Peter, it does say saftey spin on the huge chrome lid handle, the tub-break stops the tub pretty fast, after the KER-KLUNK that is.
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Post# 762-5/30/2001-12:44 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinator song
MESSAGE: I have the Westinghouse Laundromat Record too Tood. Its on my list of "audio" to be digitized. That record came inside each and every brand new slant front westinghouse! It tells the user how to user their brand new Westinghouse Laundromat.
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Post# 763-5/30/2001-12:46 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (1954 CU Rating)
MESSAGE: The 1954 Consumer Reports rated the Norge Time-Line washer #1 because of its great cleaning ability. That article is another thing on the huge list of stuff I have to post to the club.
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Post# 764-5/30/2001-15:06 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hoover VS Dyson vacuum cleaners
MESSAGE: At this time we don't have Dysons, although there is talk about their soon to be sold under the "Fantom" name here in the states. To me, a Dyson looks just like a (past) Fantom, but according to the experts they are nothing a like, the Dyson being the far superior of the two. However, some patents are expiring or some such thing, and the newer models of "Fantoms" are apparently going to be more like a Dyson.
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Post# 765-5/30/2001-15:14 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (lid logo?)
MESSAGE: Which, I might add, was a $20 option on the Norge washer in the 1950s. Naturally, whoever purchased Robert's Norge originally wasted their $20 since this option has been retired from operation, LOL.
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Post# 766-5/30/2001-15:15 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (lid logo?)
MESSAGE: Robert, I didn't remember that your Norge had a tub brake. Not sure why I'm not remembering the sound. I thought maybe that didn't come til later, but I guess I remembered wrong!
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Post# 767-5/30/2001-15:48 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (KER-KLUNK)
MESSAGE: Oh no, the early Norges had an immediate KER-KLUNK sounding braking action. On the 18lb perforated machines they changed the design to allow the tub to coast to a stop without de-energizing the brake solenoid, so their was no KER-KLUNK at the end of spin unless of course you opened the lid during spin or during coast, then there was even a louder KER-KLUNK.
After a two minute period the timer would advance one increment and the brake solenoid was then de-energized, allowing the brake to engage, but with the tub stationary by this point, it was a much quieter klunk sound.
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Post# 768-5/30/2001-19:15 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Servis logo is now in Service!
MESSAGE: Thank you Mike of Chester for scanning and sending me the vintage Servis logo. I'm assuming the Servis company is from Great Britian, but I'm not positive about that? Could you tells us when this logo is from? Thanks again for the scan.
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Post# 769-5/30/2001-21:15 ||| Whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: Hello Everybody!
MESSAGE: Ok! I made it this far so I guess I did everything correctly! (lol)
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Post# 770-5/30/2001-22:18 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: More washers on the Web
MESSAGE: Hey Greg
Thanks for posting that link. Very interesting reading and some cool pictures, but also some inaccurate information...especially in the "spin cycle" section. The poor woman must have been on the moon throughout the fifties, when some of the most efficiently-spinning top loaders were produced.
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Post# 771-5/30/2001-22:22 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Hello Everybody!
MESSAGE: Hey Robert,
Glad you made it. How's everything?
Todd
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Post# 772-5/30/2001-22:27 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 KM dryer working
MESSAGE: And I've been told that was NLA - guess you can't always believe the first person you ask!
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Post# 773-5/30/2001-22:29 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinator song
MESSAGE: I loaded and loved side two also - I'm sold on Kelvinator for 1959, I can't wait till it gets here!
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Post# 774-5/30/2001-22:29 ||| Austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (say it isn't so...blasfemy!)
MESSAGE: Rated #1? Even above the "Laundry Twins?" Argh! How could anything wash better than a Westy Front Loader from the '50's?
Westy's are so good, they don't even need an agitator. Just some paddles, that great splashing in and out of the water, and most important, the firm, but gentle twisting & tangling action. : )
Todd
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Post# 775-5/30/2001-22:32 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: More washers on the Web
MESSAGE: I also find it interesting how many manufacturers claim to be the first in this technology or that. The spin cycle section cracked me up! Higher spin speed requires a two speed motor - her masters wasn't in engineering for sure!
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Post# 776-5/30/2001-22:35 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Hello Everybody!
MESSAGE: Hi Todd;
I'm fine and I hope you are doing well also!
Robert
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Post# 777-5/30/2001-22:35 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Hello Everybody!
MESSAGE: Welcome to our new home on the web - glad you found us again!
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Post# 778-5/30/2001-22:47 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hello Everybody! (Hi Robert!)
MESSAGE: Welcome to Applianceville. I'm so glad you've arrived too! Now its like we have most of our family all back together again, plus new additions!
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Post# 779-5/30/2001-22:48 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Hello Everybody!
MESSAGE: Yes; Thanks to Uni!
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Post# 780-5/30/2001-22:49 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (say it isn't so...blasfemy!)
MESSAGE: True Todd, we know that, but CU had other things on their mind, don't even get me started on their ratings with Frigidare. Wait till I post more of the Consumer Reports stuff, you won't believe some of their findings in the 40's and 50's.
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Post# 781-5/30/2001-22:51 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Hello Everybody! (Hi Robert!)
MESSAGE: Yes Robert,
I even got to use my favorite screen name! (lol)
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Post# 782-5/30/2001-22:57 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (flaneelette??)
MESSAGE: Well maybe everything looks like flannel when being sloshed around by the norge! The shirt pattens look like flannel, but maybe things are different in the states. Your westie type wears flannel, not that I am in a postion to be judgemental, being a near westie myself!!!
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Post# 783-5/30/2001-23:00 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (All Cotton Shirts)
MESSAGE: Hi Arrrooohhh, being a "westie" myself (both a westerner and a Westinghouse lover) I wear very little flannel. Those shirt actually have a flannel pattern look to them, but they are all 100% cotton.
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Post# 784-5/30/2001-23:39 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hello Everybody!
MESSAGE: We're so glad you're here Robert ! :)
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Post# 785-5/30/2001-23:42 ||| Whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Hello Everybody!
MESSAGE: Hi Scott;
I'm here!
Robert
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Post# 786-5/30/2001-23:59 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (flannelette . . . did I miss something?)
MESSAGE: So what exactly is the deal about flannel / flannelette being objectionable in some way?
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Post# 787-5/30/2001-01:51 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (Im almost sorry I started this.)
MESSAGE: we have been having this on going thing about "westies" with some friends on the email about this. When I logged onto this site, I carried the joke a little too far.
This is what a westy is stereotyped to be...
westie, also westy. Someone from Sydney's western suburbs, often used derogatorily to mean uneducated and/or uncultured. Also someone who acts like a westie. The jokes goes that the are usually called Sharon or Darren, wear tight bycycle shorts (for Shazza) and flanelette (for Dazza) They drive old Holdens or Fords and drink lots of beer. What annoys me is that people really DO get judgemental if they find out you are from the western suburbs.But there are degrees of it. To tell someone you are from Parramatta is okay. But to tell them you are from Bankstown is like saying you have leprosy! ANd if you are from Blacktown... The stereotype is alos very untrue.
Anyway the link below might be of interest to you.
A little bit of Sydney Sociology for you!
LINK: http://www.csmonitor.com/atcsmonitor/specials/oly2000/stories/sd1.html
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Post# 788-5/30/2001-01:52 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (Im almost sorry I started this.)
MESSAGE: flannelette is VERY comfortable by the way.
Not that I wear any. Just sleep on it on my sheets.
Great lint producer too.
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Post# 789-5/31/2001-06:35 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 KM dryer working
MESSAGE: Greg, there are several styles of this filter, but the one that fits my coppertone KM soft heat match-all with the short aluminum vertical panel across the back and the deep dish timer knob under the cover is still available. I am not sure that all of them are still available, but at least this one is. My parts guys said that they can take a while to get because WP waits until they have a sufficient number of requests before making another batch of them, but there were still available when I ordered mine. I also found one in a dryer where the owner had taken a piece of wood, cut to the proper size, glued the felt to it and put the whole thing back together with a little chrome handle and screws. It works fine in mine. Tom
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Post# 790-5/31/2001-06:37 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (say it isn't so...blasfemy!)
MESSAGE: Todd, be careful that your tongue does not poke a hole through your cheek. Tom
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Post# 791-5/31/2001-06:42 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: More washers on the Web
MESSAGE: Like when Maytag talked like they were inventing the H axis washer with the Neptune. They had an H axis cabinet washer back in the 30s themselves, but they probably did not check their archives. The also had the combo in the 60s. Dumb clucks. Tom
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Post# 792-5/31/2001-06:45 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Hello Everybody! (Hi Robert!)
MESSAGE: As in: Star of Stage, Screen and Television? Welcome back home. Tom
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Post# 793-5/31/2001-06:50 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (Sheets)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the link Arrrooohhh, Sydney looks very pretty. I want to visit Australia sometime. Here I thought you meant "westie" being a "westerner". By the way I love flannel sheets in the winter, jersey cotton sheets in the spring and fall and soft cool cotton sheets in the summer. The flannel sheets come out of the Frigidaire Filtrator consdener dryer, softer than anything you could ever imagine.
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Post# 794-5/31/2001-06:56 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinator song (3 Questions on side two)
MESSAGE: I found the three questions salesmen were told to give women to ask the other dealers about non-Kelvinator washers very interesting. Today, people are way too sophisticated, if a salesperson gave me three questions to asked another dealer I would look at the salesperson like he was nuts, but back then I bet many-a-woman would actually ask those questions.
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Post# 795-5/31/2001-07:00 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Servis logo is now in Service! ("
Servis Gene"
)
MESSAGE: Robert
Many thanks for installing the logo,Yep you are correct, Servis Domestic Appliance company produced their first machine in 1929 and marketed themselves as "The First All-Electric All-British Washing Machine".
They where totally British Design and Manufacture until 1991 when it was re-formed using the "Servis" identity only, cheap Italian products now. A sad demise of a Great British Tradition.
The scanned logo is from 1948 having not changed much from 1929 and until 1990 only the font style differed.
You would love some of the marketing campaigns over the years, I`m sure the marketing dept was full of Aunty Dots Boys!!!
Such as:
"How to get your man, for you, from Servis"
"He`ll give you a lifetime of service"
and of course the famous "Servis Gene" this hunk was splashed all over massive billboards in the 80`s , look for yourselves, he features in the current box office smash " Billy Elliot" with Jamie Bell & Julie Walters.
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 796-5/31/2001-07:07 ||| Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: wall paper
MESSAGE: Worthy Webmaster and Wizzard of Washing, I have a slight discrepancy with the date of the Frigidaire logos. You extend the old crown through 57, which is when the Sheer Look came in and the logo became streamlined and VERY high fashion, much like so many of us (wish we could be). Tom
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Post# 797-5/31/2001-07:09 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Servis logo is now in Service! (Servis Ads)
MESSAGE: Your very welcome Mike. It would be great to see some vintage Servis ads sometime. If you get a chance please scan some, especially ones from the 50's, and share them with the club!
Louis, did you ever post a Servis ad at one point? I can't find any in your Photo album, but I know this brand sounds very familiar from somewhere.
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Post# 798-5/31/2001-07:09 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: More washers on the Web (Maytag neptune)
MESSAGE: Really the tilted drum I thought Westy's were the ones first at a degree angle besides Degrees in my estimation are as follows
BS Bullshiters award
MB Master Bullshitter
PhD Pilled higher and deeper
We could put that women to shame and all get a Phd in Washing machine Philosophy and social impacts with our collective minds
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Post# 799-5/31/2001-07:09 ||| Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (Sheets)
MESSAGE: Robert, if you ever make the trip be sure to take the harbor bridge walk. Several friends have and loved it. Tom
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Post# 800-5/31/2001-07:11 ||| Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinator song (3 Questions on side two)
MESSAGE: But Robert, when was the last time you bought a NEW washer as opposed to finding a new washer. Tom
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Post# 801-5/31/2001-07:12 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: wall paper (The Royal Crown)
MESSAGE: Hi Tom, they started using the Sheer-Look Crown in the middle of producing the '57 Line. Then they put the Sheer-Look crown in a box over an F in '61. My Control Tower washer has the old 1947-1957 F flat crown, and Control Tower dryer has the Sheer Look crown!
So isn't this correct?
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Post# 802-5/31/2001-07:14 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinator song (found that intresting also )
MESSAGE: Frigidaire AD in the early 60's were no belts no gears no pulleys ... must have had lots of break downs back then I guess or bad gear ratio's .. but compared to todays machines they were built to last a little longer
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Post# 803-5/31/2001-07:15 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinator song (3 Questions on side two)
MESSAGE: Back then, nearly every machine was very different from it's competitor. Now we have 3 or 4 major brands that complete the washing and drying process virtually the same way. No more agitators with rings and wings, just a great big "screw" for the buying public!
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Post# 804-5/31/2001-07:15 ||| Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: More washers on the Web (Maytag neptune)
MESSAGE: There might be more than one or two who when fully dressed up could put any woman to shame, and some of us who no matter how we are dressed are just a crying shame. Tom
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Post# 805-5/31/2001-07:18 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinator song (Big Screws)
MESSAGE: You had me rolling on the floor laughing thanks for starting my day that way
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Post# 806-5/31/2001-07:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 KM dryer working (filter)
MESSAGE: I thought about taking the filter out and plugging the hole with something similar. I like the Bendix with no filter and since it's a very short run to the outside, the lint can just blow away. Of course, the way it's been raining here, lint would just float away. I sent out a dove to bring back an olive branch yesterday, but it's not back yet.
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Post# 807-5/31/2001-07:27 ||| Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: wall paper (The Royal Crown)
MESSAGE: Well, I only associated the old logo with the rounded appliances, but I am not an expert on this and the 57 pair in the collection have the newer F. So because of the box around the F and stuff, the years 57.5 through 59 are cast out wailing in the wilderness? I guess I will have to go home and take a closer look at my 58 babies with their intermediate F. I still consider the old logo to be more pre 57 than 57, but I will hold that inside and not make an issue of it. Tom
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Post# 808-5/31/2001-07:29 ||| Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinator song (3 Questions on side two)
MESSAGE: Greg, are you referring to the auger top agitators, or are you getting better servicing from your appliance dealers than I am? Tom
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Post# 809-5/31/2001-07:34 ||| Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 KM dryer working (filter)
MESSAGE: Greg, what I meant was that the owner had put the wooden top on the lint filter so that it sealed again as well as caught lint. It sorta modernizes the dryer to have a touch of wood grain on it, doncha think? Tom
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Post# 810-5/31/2001-07:59 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 KM dryer working (filter)
MESSAGE: Yeah, I knew the wood was on the filter, but I was going to use the wood to make a plug and forget about the filter - it's kind of fun having a "lint trail" coming out from the house. The wood grain touch would bring the dryer's look right up to 1970!
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Post# 811-5/31/2001-08:06 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinator song (Dealer Servicing - An Important Part of the Sale!)
MESSAGE: I used to know someone at the Mart with whom I got a number of great "deals," but he's no longer there and I've started "finding" all my new appliances anyway.
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Post# 812-5/31/2001-09:55 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 KM dryer working (filter)
MESSAGE: I don't have a filter in any of my dryers. It makes a big mess outside and most of the time I have to take the garden hose to get the dried lint off the sidewalk. But it is easier than cleaning the filter every time.
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Post# 813-5/31/2001-10:59 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (Im almost sorry I started this.)
MESSAGE: Well arrrohhh, not always for the same reasons you mention here, but in America there's a lot of that city vs. suburbs and vice versa going on as well. Guess it's a universal thing!
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Post# 814-5/31/2001-11:21 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinator song (3 Questions on side two)
MESSAGE: It's a very cute record and I enjoyed it very much. Probably not surprising to you I have a much different perception of it but I won't belabor the point, LOL. This would have been the first year I believe there were only Kelvinators and no ABC-o-Matics.
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Post# 815-5/31/2001-11:40 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Hello Everybody!
MESSAGE: Nice to have you here!
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Post# 816-5/31/2001-11:42 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinator song
MESSAGE: It's really wonderful. It reminds me of a record my grandfather had that promoted the Miele 505.
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Post# 817-5/31/2001-11:53 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Servis logo is now in Service! (Servis Ads)
MESSAGE: Robert, I never posted a Servis ad. I was unfamiliar with this brand until I came across the new Italian ones on a UK retail site. I mentioned Siltal a few times in connection to the Italian Kenmore frontloader Peter has. But I have no ads from either one of them. Louis
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Post# 818-5/31/2001-12:01 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 KM dryer working (filter)
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, we think you are very glad not owning a condenser dryer that blows the air right back into the house!
BTW ever considered putting one of your old nylons around the vent? Put only the first part around it and you have a bag that catches all the lint. Don't know about fire risks though.
QLOTOC
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Post# 819-5/31/2001-12:04 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (Im almost sorry I started this.)
MESSAGE: It sure is a universal thing, same thing can be said about the Netherlands. No flannelettes in my wardrobe!!
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Post# 820-5/31/2001-12:52 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: Inglis POTD
MESSAGE: Very cool! The "bodies" are clearly Whirlpool, but the control panel design is different and interesting. What model year is this? Looks like early- to mid-1970's.
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Post# 821-5/31/2001-12:53 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Maytag Club Chat Web Site
MESSAGE: Now this is an interesting Chat site (NOT), let's hope that our club never gets to be like this...
LINK: http://www.maytagclub.com/
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Post# 822-5/31/2001-12:54 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Inglis POTD
MESSAGE: I'd say about '74, that was my first big year as a kid for writing away to the appliance companies for brochures and information.
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Post# 823-5/31/2001-12:56 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Club Chat Web Site (I Forgot to mention)
MESSAGE: I forgot to mention to click on the "Maytag Club Chat" link!
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Post# 824-5/31/2001-13:34 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Hello Everybody!
MESSAGE: Robert: I'm GLAD you joined us HERE!
-ph
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Post# 825-5/31/2001-13:42 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Club Chat Web Site (one track club)
MESSAGE: That's what happens when you have a one track club with little to no moderation. Big !!! I wonder if the people who post on the club ever get responses? I wonder if because it is a brand name club, they are under some corporate scrutiny? I wonder if those club members turn their nose up at an AMP or a 102?
I'll stick to the automatics, thank you very much...
-ph
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Post# 826-5/31/2001-13:44 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Club Chat Web Site (BUG)
MESSAGE: Robert: the greater than and less than pointy bracket signs aren't working again. In my last post there's supposed to be the word "yawn" between the Big and the !!!
-ph
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Post# 827-5/31/2001-13:47 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Thanks for the wallpaper
MESSAGE: I can go to a wallpaper store and go thru books and books and not find a single thing I like. But here in this club, I can't decide on one! And they are so easy to change! Thanks so much, Mr. Web Man!!!
-ph
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Post# 828-5/31/2001-15:04 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 KM dryer working (filter)
MESSAGE: My first place "on my own" was a townhouse and my laundry room was underneath someone's living room. My old Speed Queen dryer blew a lot of lint into her little flower bed outside and she decided to put a knee high hose on the outside of my vent. When the dryer stopped in mid cycle, I went around to check out the vent, I found the knee high hanging there crammed with lint. I had no idea how long it was there, but we had a few words about overheating, lint back-up and possibly a fire under her living room and she decided the linty flower bed was the lesser of the evils.
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Post# 829-5/31/2001-15:10 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Club Chat Web Site
MESSAGE: Why don't we have theme music?
Did you see the post: "I hate your momma....." No replys to that one!
Thanks for the link - just shows what a great job you have done. I did notice you didn't add a link to this club - probably a good idea not to!
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Post# 830-5/31/2001-15:11 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Club Chat Web Site
MESSAGE: Well, the chatting is rather dry and the site itself is of course not nearly as fun as ours, but the cartoon section is kind of cute and there are some interesting Maytag facts in there. Kind of a one-track thing only being Maytag-oriented though, LOL.
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Post# 831-5/31/2001-15:12 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Thanks for the wallpaper
MESSAGE: Isnt that the truth? The wallpaper stores have so much it's just way too overwhelming for me.
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Post# 832-5/31/2001-15:19 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire Agitator Sprinklers
MESSAGE: There is a dutch auction of 5 of these on Ebay if anyone is interested in the 3 ring agitator clothes sprinklers. I wonder where s/he got 5 all at once?
Scott
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1150855976
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Post# 833-5/31/2001-15:31 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Agitator Sprinklers
MESSAGE: Just what I need - more crap to dust, but I put a bid in!
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Post# 834-5/31/2001-15:35 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Agitator Sprinklers
MESSAGE: Where did she get all five? Maybe from Mae in Creston, IA! I guess not, if she did get them from Mae, there'd be a $500 reserve!!
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Post# 835-5/31/2001-15:56 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Agitator Sprinklers
MESSAGE: Good! I know you enjoyed seeing mine. Hope you will win one for your nice collections!
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Post# 836-5/31/2001-15:58 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Agitator Sprinklers
MESSAGE: That's a good point. I asked Robert the other day what he thought of the person at the appliance store in Illionois vs. Mae. To be brief, he basically said there was no comparison at all, that he liked the Illinois person.
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Post# 837-5/31/2001-16:28 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Agitator Sprinklers
MESSAGE: Ray was very, very nice and glad to have all his things going to loving homes. I plan on working more on that SQ washer tonight, but am making steady progress on the new laundry room. I'm snapping pics as I go along to show the progression of this collector's illness!
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Post# 838-5/31/2001-16:39 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Club Chat Web Site (I thought I was ate up??)
MESSAGE: Please I hope we keep a very open appliance variance and intrest.
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Post# 839-5/31/2001-16:39 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Club Chat Web Site (BUG)
MESSAGE: Thanks peter, I've known that for a while, its on the list of things to fix. Its because HTML code uses those signs to open and close code commands. For now use something else, I'll get around to fixing that over the weekend.
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Post# 840-5/31/2001-16:40 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Thanks for the wallpaper
MESSAGE: My Pleasure, its all soooo much fun to do!
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Post# 841-5/31/2001-16:41 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Club Chat Web Site (my sentiments exactly)
MESSAGE: first time I meet them which was about a year ago very shall I say "pure" thanks peter you had me laughing
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Post# 842-5/31/2001-16:45 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Club Chat Web Site (Met them???)
MESSAGE: Hey Philippe, what did you mean by "met them"? Did you go to a Maytag Collectors Club Convention?
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Post# 843-5/31/2001-16:47 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Agitator Sprinklers (So did I that is great ... )
MESSAGE: I probably would have never found that ... Thanks so much
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Post# 844-5/31/2001-16:48 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Club Chat Web Site (no just in chat )
MESSAGE: Hey I use to work for Amway corp actually for the owners if that would have been an Amway convention and that still makes my skin crawl
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Post# 845-5/31/2001-16:49 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Agitator Sprinklers (ROFLMAO)
MESSAGE: you are just too funny small community huh ?
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Post# 846-5/31/2001-17:11 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Club Chat Web Site (I thought I was ate up??)
MESSAGE: We have always had a reputation of doing just that! It is so interesting to learn about what others like, and I am just continually learning new things about various appliances, how they operate and etc.!
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Post# 847-5/31/2001-17:11 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Club Chat Web Site (I thought I was ate up??)
MESSAGE: We have always had a reputation of doing just that! It is so interesting to learn about what others like, and I am just continually learning new things about various appliances, how they operate and etc.!
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Post# 848-5/31/2001-17:20 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 KM dryer working (filter)
MESSAGE: I would never do that Your Highness. You see, we removed the filters because we were tired of cleaning the filters. The length of the exhaust is less then a foot so there is not really a chance of anything clogging. I may however put a nylon on the dryer outside as it is blowing lint into the water collection pond and clogging up the pump I use to drain the pond into the flower beds. It is not fun reaching down into the yucky wash water to pull loads of lint and other junk out of the pump. Royalty should never have to do such a thing and I can not the help to do those things for me either.
QOTS
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Post# 849-5/31/2001-17:31 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Agitator Sprinklers (ROFLMAO)
MESSAGE: I was a small town, but this woman that Robert, Scott and I went to see was the wife of a long-time Frigidaire sales and service company. We got some good things, but I wanted to buy all the old service manuals, but she wanted $500 a set for them. I told her to take them to the landfill for that amount of money!
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Post# 850-5/31/2001-17:54 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Inglis POTD (timer discrepancy)
MESSAGE: Look at the timer on the dryer, and then at the one on the inset at the bottom. They are turned about 90° clockwise. Timed Drying is at the right side on the dryer, and at the bottom on the inset.
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Post# 851-5/31/2001-18:56 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Inglis POTD (timer discrepancy)
MESSAGE: The whole dial turns around on the timer shaft - only the indicator line is on the panel. In the top picture it looks like it's in the off position of the timed cycle, the bottom in the off position of the Regular auto-dry cycle. American models had little orange or red clips that were snapped onto the edge of the dial to mark your favorite settings. (Remember these Scott?)
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Post# 852-5/31/2001-20:12 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT: August "Convention"
MESSAGE: Hi all.
Could someone out there in "Applianceville" give me a brief repeat rundown of details for the getogether in August. A post number reference from the information on the Yahoo club site would do. Sorry, but I've yet to make my reservations. I will do it as soon as I get the phone number again.
I need the meeting dates in August, and the motel name and phone number please!
Thanks,
Ken
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Post# 853-5/31/2001-20:34 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Hello Everybody!
MESSAGE: Hi Peter;
Yes; I'm here! I like your Kenmore Wallpaper!
Robert
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Post# 854-5/31/2001-20:35 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Hello Everybody!
MESSAGE: Hi Louis;
Thank You!
Robert
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Post# 855-5/31/2001-20:38 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Hello Everybody! (Hi Robert!)
MESSAGE: Hi Tom;
Glad to be here!
Robert
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Post# 856-5/31/2001-20:44 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: display pics
MESSAGE: hi everyone - I got my pictures back on cd from my Maryland trip. I loaded them to my hard drive and able to display with viewpro software. When I try to create a link for the club to see them - ? I don't know how to create a URL & also name the link - someone please suggest.
Thanks
Peter
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Post# 857-5/31/2001-20:58 ||| Dan o (Ontario, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: display pics
MESSAGE: You will not be able to link to them on your computer from the Web unless you're running Web server software on your computer at home. It will also be difficult if you don't have a static (or semi-static in the case of cable) Internet connection.
If you can upload them to a server on the Web, then you'll be able to link to them.
Dan O.
BTW. Nice site here!!
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Post# 858-5/31/2001-21:06 ||| Dan o (Ontario, Canada)
SUBJECT: Forum Index (uni)
MESSAGE: Robert,
Is it possible to set up the forum index in a threaded style to ease the following of a single message? That's one of the reasons I don't frequent the Yahoo! forum much because I find it's a pain to navigate a single message from start to finish.
Just thought I'd ask.
Very nice site!
Dan O.
LINK: http://www.classicappliances.com/
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Post# 859-5/31/2001-21:23 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: display pics (Pics continued )
MESSAGE: Well it looks like I am going to have more trouble than I thought because when I tried to open pics from hard drive pc freezes - so looks like I am out of luck for now - but I will continue to investigate
Peter
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Post# 860-5/31/2001-21:27 ||| nmaineman36 (Portland Maine)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire washer belt change
MESSAGE: Well hello everyone. Love the new club. Greg the most unimaginable thing happened last night....the belt on my washer broke during a load of towels. I went and got a new belt for 8 bucks and started talking the hoses off the pump and I can tell you that the clamps and the pump ports are not exactly user friendly. And so I could not get to the clamps as easy as I wanted to so i decided like an idiot to take the suspension springs out and twist the wash system to me so i could remove the clamps. I finally got the clamps off the ports of the pump and the hoses. The belt slipped on the pulleys fine and I tightened the belt as in the tech talk manual. Thats all fine...ran my happy ass to Home Depot and bought new screw on clamps so if I have to change this again and I hope the hell not it would be easier.
Now I am havinga bitch of a time with the springs especially the left one.I cant get it in the hole and I tried everything I could think of to get it in there. So I think I going to go to Home Depot again and get a couple of heavy duty hooks and screw those in to replace the closed eye hooks thats there now.
I thought that it would be a 20 minute job but nooooooo!
Mike
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Post# 861-5/31/2001-22:03 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire washer belt change
MESSAGE: Welcome Mike! I was wondering where you were, now I know!
Congratulations on your first repair - now you know why we LOVE our machines! Can't help not loving them when you chase all over for parts and supplies, spend hours dis-assembling, fixing, re-assembling, dis-assembling, fixing what you messed up, re-assembling and through all of this, you end up falling deeper in love with a harvest gold appliance that 99% of the world would have sent to the Krusher and replaced with a brand spankin' new poly tub machine! Welcome to the collector's circle!
BTW: The manual says that when you re-assemble (after centering adjustments are made) these springs, you need to put a drop of blue Loctite on top of the nut. Now take your happy ass back to Home Depot and get some of that!! Enjoy your machine!
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Post# 862-5/31/2001-22:12 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: August "Convention" (414)
MESSAGE: Post 414 here in Applianceville has this information Ken.
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Post# 863-5/31/2001-22:13 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: display pics
MESSAGE: You need to upload your picts to Yahoo Photos Peter.
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Post# 864-5/31/2001-22:15 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Forum Index (uni)
MESSAGE: Hi Dan welcome. While we prefer the more conversational style posting, you can certain achieve the threaded style by using the Applianceville archives. Simply go into the archives and search for the Subject Name of the thread you want to read.
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Post# 865-5/31/2001-22:15 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire washer belt change
MESSAGE: Hey Mike, nice to see you here. There is no such thing as a 20 minute job with these washers!
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Post# 866-5/31/2001-22:18 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Thank You Scott!
MESSAGE: For typing up instructions to use Applianceville. You will all see them you when first come into the club.
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Post# 867-5/31/2001-22:22 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire washer belt change
MESSAGE: I'm thinking about the using hooks instead of eye bolts for those springs..... I'm wondering if you can test this with an off balance load before running a load through it. Watch the tub spring hooks - wouldn't want it to unhook during a full load and have that tub of water slamming around.
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Post# 868-5/31/2001-22:29 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Thank You Scott!
MESSAGE: Very nice work guys!
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Post# 869-5/31/2001-22:30 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Inglis POTD (goofy in the head)
MESSAGE: Oh, geeze. I knew that. It just didn't strike me that way at first, because the dial doesn't look transparent for the pointer to show through, which apparently it isn't. The inset picture would, of course, be turned to better show the auto cycles, since that's what it is touting.
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Post# 870-5/31/2001-22:30 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Thank You Scott!
MESSAGE: YAY. You're very welcome. I'm glad I was able to do a little something to help!
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Post# 871-5/31/2001-00:13 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: ...So Easily Acheived With a Blackstone.
MESSAGE: Just had to see this wallpaper!
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Post# 872-5/31/2001-01:44 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Club Chat Web Site (what a dull site)
MESSAGE: Tha cartoons sure were a laugh, NOT!
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Post# 873-5/31/2001-01:52 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Club Chat Web Site (I thought I was ate up??)
MESSAGE: I agree. This site and the yahoo site have discovered so many things I never knew about before.
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Post# 874-6/1/2001-07:00 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Club Chat Web Site (but there is some good info)
MESSAGE: They do have a page with some good vintage part finding information, here is a copy of the most important info from it.
BTW, I've used the Parts Hotline and on occassion I have success:
Parts Hotline
PO. Box 677391, Orlando, FL. 32867
Ph. 407-658-0730
Fax 407-658-0064
Specializing in locating obsolete OEM parts through a servicing network of dealers throughout the U.S.
Macy's Stove Works
5515 Almeda Road, Houston, TX. 77004
Ph. 713.-521-0934
Fax 713-521-0889
Specializing in NLA range parts and restorations of older appliances.
H.T Smith: 588 South Cooper Street, Memphis, TN. 38104
Ph. 901-274-7589
Fax 901-272-3909
Specializing in rebuilding range thermostats and pilot valves. They do not stock parts.
A-1 Stove Hospital: 118 East Florence Avenue, Los Angeles, CA. 90003
Ph. 213-581-8251
Fax 213-751-2330
Specializing in range restoration and the stocking of obsolete parts.
Dixie Precision: 830 9th Street South, Jacksonville Beach, FL. 32250
Ph. 904-241-8136
Fax 904-246-1199
Specializing in rebuilding range thermostats.
J.E.S. Jack Santoro: p.o. box 65, Ventura, CA. 93002
Ph. 805-643-3552
Specializing in old parts for all old appliances, washers and dryers.
Mid West Timer Service, Inc P.O. Box 126, Benton Harbor, MI 49023
800-253-7260 Or visit there web site http://www.m-t-s.com/
Specializing in new, remanufactured, and repaired timers.
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Post# 875-6/1/2001-08:52 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Forum Index (uni)
MESSAGE: Dan,
You can follow the "thread" of the posts by clicking on blue link in the post at the bottom of the screen, just like in Yahoo. Your message should be under this one on this screen in a box. The post number should be in blue. Click on that, and you can work your way backword. I don't know if Robert has a "view all responses to this post" like Yahoo on his plate, as we've given him soooooo many ideas to work on!
-ph
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Post# 876-6/1/2001-08:58 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Recycle guy comes thru...
MESSAGE: Got a call from the appliance recycling guy yesterday. He has 2 stoves for me to look at. I thanked him and reminded him that I'm laundry and not really cooking, but I'll come by for a look. Then he says "I just got a 1953 Kenmore washer, but I wasn't going to keep it because I know you want Frigidaire." So after getting Jason's 1972 washer out of the car last night, I'm going today to see the stoves and this washer that I don't want! Look for pics tomorrow when I'm on my laptop...
-ph
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Post# 877-6/1/2001-09:01 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: ...So Easily Acheived With a Blackstone. (really now, who was first?)
MESSAGE: The earliest dates that I've seen for an automatic washer were the 1938 ads for Bendix, and I know that 1947 after the War was the big time for the introduction of automatic washers, but who really had the first one out? For the international experts out there who know for their area, we can keep it catagorized by country/continent...
WHAT WAS THE FIRST START-TO-FINISH AUTOMATIC WASHER?
-ph
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Post# 878-6/1/2001-09:32 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Bendix POTD
MESSAGE: Those cube P-B/Dexter machines are a dime a dozen down here! Lots of older 'mats have them. Does anyone here have any memories of them? We had a 'mat on the north end of my home town with them. There was a little pull lever under the coin slide to bypass the prewash. You'd have to start the washer, then pull the lever. I never seemed to see it work right, but then the laundry was never that busy.
-ph
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Post# 879-6/1/2001-10:53 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix POTD
MESSAGE: The Philco Bendix in the picture dates from 1957 if you do the math like I did, but I probably did it wrong, just like on the SATs. They are like the machines in the coin laundry we started using for the throw rugs after getting the 58 LK, except that those were not the Double Load machines although you could find lots of what would later be called double wides using them. The ones we used had the lights for soak, wash, rinse and small off-white knurled knobs with a red line on them for temperature and it seems that there were two, one for wash and one for soak/rinse, but maybe not. They were replaced with AWFUL coin-op Maytags very much like my poor A102. Tom
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Post# 880-6/1/2001-11:12 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 KM dryer working (filter)
MESSAGE: Oooh, I get the picture, it's indeed not a very Royal task to put your just manicured hands into the pond. Yukkie.
QLOTOC
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Post# 881-6/1/2001-11:19 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Thank You Scott!
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, thank you for typing the instructions. If we didn't know you were Royalty we would think you have many years of experience in wordprocessing and saying things in good language.
QLOTOC
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Post# 882-6/1/2001-11:20 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Recycle guy comes thru...
MESSAGE: Peter wouldn't a 1953 Kenmore be cool for your collection???
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Post# 883-6/1/2001-11:24 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: ...So Easily Acheived With a Blackstone. (really now, who was first?)
MESSAGE: In the US, Bendix introduced their Automatic Washer for home use in 1938. I question that POTD claim about 1932 for commercial use, because the timer patents happend about 1936. They might have used some sort of manually operated front loader, that you manually shifted from fill to wash to drain to spin.
It would really be interesting to find out the real truth, once I post all the CU reports from 1940 you guys will clearly see the history that is laid out in these report.
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Post# 884-6/1/2001-11:26 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix POTD
MESSAGE: I found two of those commercial Bendix machines a few years ago with the pull lever bypass switch. I gave them to Bendixboy 1956 and he restored them by taking the best parts of both and making one really good machine. At some point I will get over to his house and take pictures of his really cool stuff.
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Post# 885-6/1/2001-13:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Recycle guy comes thru...
MESSAGE: I would think so too! I think you should have this Peter!
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Post# 886-6/1/2001-13:32 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix POTD (Hard or Soft?)
MESSAGE: Were these bolt down (hard-mount) machines?
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Post# 887-6/1/2001-15:05 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Thank You Scott!
MESSAGE: Thank You, Your Majesty! We apologize for our tardiness in answering your most recent correspondence, but we shall strive so to do over the weekend.
QEOM
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Post# 888-6/1/2001-17:09 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Recycle guy comes thru...
MESSAGE: But I do have it now!
-ph
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/vwp?.dir=/Yahoo!+Photo+Album&.src=ph&.dnm=%2753+Kenmore.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/lst%3f%26.dir=/Yahoo!%2bPhoto%2bAlbum%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 889-6/1/2001-17:10 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix POTD (probably soft)
MESSAGE: These were probably soft mount, as they were basically the home washer with a coin slide...
-ph
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Post# 890-6/1/2001-17:12 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: stoves everywhere
MESSAGE: Not only did Billybob's have that beautiful Frigidaire and Kenmore stoves for me, but I had 2 messages on my answering machine from people with old stoves that don't want to throw them out and want them to go to a good home! Where in heavens name are these things coming from? I'm laundry, not cooking! Is someone above trying to tell me something?
-ph
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Post# 891-6/1/2001-17:17 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: more of today's finds
MESSAGE: Steve 1-18: I found 2 more '66 LK dryers today, both were gas, one white and the other avocado green. The sensors are in the drum, 3 of them, long rectangular sensors between the lifting fins.
Jason: I found another window-dial KM dryer, this one coppertone, in slightly better shape than the white one here. I think one trip up here will not be enuf!!! Can you come up this weekend? (just kidding!)
I didn't get pics of these (damn 4mb memroy stick), but if you didn't page forward in the link I posted, please go back and do so to see some more stuff (like the magnificent Frigidare range!)
-ph
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Post# 892-6/1/2001-17:21 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: ...So Easily Acheived With a Blackstone. (really now, who was first?)
MESSAGE: Yeah, but the text says "self service 'drop-off'" which is kinda mutually exclusive. So maybe a semi-automatic version was available in the traditional laundries where orders were dropped off in '32, but then coin-op true self-serv was later, maybe in '38.
Either way, the standard model that is pictured, is that an earlier model or later model than the standards that Greg, Buick and I have?
-ph
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Post# 893-6/1/2001-17:24 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere
MESSAGE: There are a billion old stoves out there - you get half and I get half! That's all the calls I get too! I had a call the other day from the community playhouse wanting a 30" gas range from the 50's, I told her to check the thrift stores and I believe she found one there.
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Post# 894-6/1/2001-17:39 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (Very nice KM! )
MESSAGE: That '53 Kenmore is beautiful - what a beauty she will be restored to "catalog showroom new." Congratulations!
I think you may want to hold out for an even MORE magnificent Frigidaire range - this one is very cool, but if you wait for a bit, you will get one in yellow, pink or turquoise that really will make your heart flutter. In the meantime, you can upgrade to a 50 amp circuit, and convert that carport into a laundry room! I spent three hours today running two 30 amp lines for dryers into the new laundry room. What a pain - but it will be worth it.
What a terrific connection you've made with BillyBob!
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Post# 895-6/1/2001-18:04 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the Day - Frigidaire with a lid lock! (original "
westinghouse"
top loaders...not WCI)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg
Reading Aarroouugh's post about the Westy tops reminded me that the original Westinghouse top loaders were fun to watch. The original design had a black plastic swirl vane agitator with a big "W" on the top. When the water level was set at a little below maximum, there was a lot of water drama with the sloshing sound of the agitator, the recirculating lint filter and the indexing ribbed tub. It actually had a decent wash action with that agitator. Those machines also had a spin-drain, although the RPM's weren't impressive...about as fast as a belt drive WP/KM. The tranny may have been cheap, but it was entertaining. CR even rated those early top loaders (mid 60's) pretty highly (if that's worth anything).
I think when WCI took over Westinghouse things got worse and worse and cheaper and cheaper until you end up with the WCI brands of disposable top loaders one finds today.
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Post# 896-6/1/2001-18:12 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (Very nice KM! )
MESSAGE: Greg,
If I added a 50 amp circuit for the stove, then there would only be 10 amps left for the rest of the house! Not to mention the fuses popping! No, I'll have to wait until I get the electrical service upgraded and the house rewired. And that probably won't be until I get the house replumbed. sigh! The joys of owning an old house...
-ph
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Post# 897-6/1/2001-18:31 ||| nmaineman36 (Portland Maine)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire washer belt change
MESSAGE: Oh nice well I didnt put the Locktite on it but I will get some this weekend. I figured out that I had to take the top off the washer and I tilted the mechanism enough that I was able to hook the springs back in. Phew! what I struggled with for over 3 hours last night took me 5 mins this afternoon. I remembered what my Maytag manual said to do when rehooking the springs and I figured why not it should work for the Frigidaire and it did. The belt to the washer is different from the original...more of a cog type than flat.
Now the washer runs like a charm and spins much faster than before. I had to run to Portland to get the belt because the dealer in Saco said to me that I should replace the washer since there was no belts available. Yeah right! But a new agitator for the washer I found out can cost 50 bucks or more. OUCH!! So now I am very sore all over ..my arms hurt and my hands and so do my legs and my butt. I can say that if I have to work on it again it wont be soon.
Mike
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Post# 898-6/1/2001-18:32 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Agitator Sprinklers
MESSAGE: Thanks for the link, Scott...I put a bid in too. I've tried to get one of these before and they always sell sky-high. Good luck to us all.
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Post# 899-6/1/2001-19:04 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Recycle guy comes thru...
MESSAGE: Hi Peter
That is a cute Kenmore...I've never seen one like that with only one selection dial on the left. All the models I've seen have two dials or push buttons. Is the selector for water temp or water level? Does it have the Roto-Swirl agitator? Enjoyed all of your pictures. You have a very beautiful, lush home.
Rich
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Post# 900-6/1/2001-19:06 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Recycle guy comes thru... (YAY YAY YAY)
MESSAGE: WOW, way to go Peter!!! The '53 Kenmore is BEAUTIFUL, I'm talking to Jetcone on the phone right now and we both green with envy over your new vintage find. How about some interior shots of the Kenmore Please???
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Post# 901-6/1/2001-19:06 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Recycle guy comes thru...
MESSAGE: COnfgratualions onyour find! I love recyclers! Uni and I are talking right now on the phone while I type this! We love that machine!
Jetcone!! Can;t to meet you at the convention!
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Post# 902-6/1/2001-19:07 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix POTD (probably soft)
MESSAGE: No, all Bendix coin-op machines are bolt-down machines.
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Post# 903-6/1/2001-19:12 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: ...So Easily Acheived With a Blackstone. (its the first)
MESSAGE: That picture is showing the very first Bendix Home Automatic Washer from 1938. John Lefever has one in John & Tom's pictures.
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/tomturbomatic/vwp?.dir=/3+-+Collection+at+John%27s+Maryland+House&.dnm=Very+First+1938+Bendix.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 904-6/1/2001-19:23 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: ...So Easily Acheived With a Blackstone. (1938 Bendix)
MESSAGE: I spoke with Kennth O. Sisson who was working with Mr. Chamberlin & Mr. Basset on the development of the Bendix Machine. And He told me that the first attempts on development were happening around 1935 when Mr.C & Mr.B approached Bendix with the idea of making a home laundry washer.
Uni and I are questioning that whole statement about the machine existing in 1932, which you can see on the picture of the day till midnight!
Jet
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Post# 905-6/1/2001-19:32 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (KER-KLUNK)
MESSAGE: Robert, our 1964 DispensoMat also had coasting. It was one minute timer increment after the first & second spins. I would imagine this sequence was standard operating proceedure for all Norge perforated washers, the 15, 16, and 18 pound varieties.
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Post# 906-6/1/2001-19:37 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Hello Everybody!
MESSAGE: Welcome back Brooklyn Robert and the few others that signed up since my last viewing of posts on the 29th. Have not had much time do perusee the postings. But I'm catching up.
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Post# 907-6/1/2001-19:55 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Signing In (Keymatic Tale)
MESSAGE: Hi Mike, this is Jetcone over the pond in Boston. I have a Keymatic tale for you. I was visiting a friend in London who had spent the year assisting a woman actress there in 1976. She had a huge old house on the Isle of Wight left to her by her MP husband. We went down for the weekend, it was March. They had a stream running across the property in which cressies grew that I picked for salad. We had to do some sheets for the bedding since we were opening up the house after winter. The washer was in the kitchen. At first glance I thought it was a Bendix because it was square and had a glass door. I loaded up the machine and tried to turn it on but couldn;t find the timer dial. I searched and searched, finally I had to intrude on my friend who was deep into getting dinner ready for a party that night in the house. [We were to serve and cook for our keep.] She said it was a red flat key ontop of a shelf.I went back to the machine and above on the shelf was a red square key--heavy thing! Embossed on each edge was a cycle name. I inserted the key into a flat slot on the upper right and bingo the machine took off. I'll bet that machine is still sitting there. But it didn't look at all like the machine Louis posted up with the slant front. It looked like a very old flat front Bendix with a glass door. I never looked inside to see if there was a counter rotating disk in back, I just thought it was a regular tumbler. Uni is ready to kill me.
Hope you find one soon so we can see it again!
Welcome to applianceville!
Jon/Jetcone
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Post# 908-6/1/2001-20:35 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the Day - Frigidaire with a lid lock! (original )
MESSAGE: I got some repair publications from our trip to Rockford that were for some of the 60's Westy top loads. They are very neat looking machines and it would be fun to play with one - I love the ramp agitators. Robert got one of the blue ones that has the smaller "delicate" agitator underneath when we were in Rockford - I'll bet they do move some water around.
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Post# 909-6/1/2001-20:38 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: ...So Easily Acheived With a Blackstone. (1938 Bendix)
MESSAGE: Even in some other vintage advertising, Bendix says it was 1937 when they took the first machine to county fairs and such to promote the idea. People probably thought they were "talking out of their hats" when that hawker extolled the virtues of automatic washers!
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Post# 910-6/1/2001-21:38 ||| steved (Albany NY)
SUBJECT: Philco washer
MESSAGE: Hi everyone, I saw an ad for a "Philco Washer & Maytag Dryer - both work fine $75.00". They are located in Philmont, NY, on the CT-NY border. Maybe it's an Automagic? I am not interested, but maybe someone out there is. The phone # is 518-672-5232, from the "WantAd Digest"......SteveD
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Post# 911-6/1/2001-21:51 ||| nmaineman36 (Portland Maine)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer
MESSAGE: Oh gawd I didnt need to know that!!!! Now I am getting my gears turning and wondering if I should get the washer and dryer. Oh man I would love to have a Philco washer ..very rare and hard to find. I dont need another washer I am telling myself but the other part of me says yeah why not! I feel like you know in a Tom and Jerry cartoon where Jerry has the devil on one side and the angel on the other telling him what he should do. The devil says sure why not..drive on down there and get it. The angel says no Mikey you dont need the washer and dryer because you already have 2 of each. What am I gonna do!
Mike
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Post# 912-6/1/2001-21:58 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer
MESSAGE: Mike are there basements in Maine? :-) Scott
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Post# 913-6/1/2001-22:00 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Recycle guy comes thru...
MESSAGE: Hey Rich,
I thought Robert had one like this, or maybe it's his slimline 24" one. It has one cycle with a 20 minute wash. The little selector is for the water temps -- hot, medium, warm. It has a RotoSwirl with a blue/white speckled tub. It's by far the heaviest machine I've handled! The agitator does not turn, and there is a fair amount of rust around the bottom of the cabinet. It'll be a challenge!
-ph
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Post# 914-6/1/2001-22:02 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Recycle guy comes thru... (YAY YAY YAY)
MESSAGE: Not a problem, Robert. Now that I have room on my little 4mg memory stick, I'll take more pics tomorrow during my off hours!
-ph
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Post# 915-6/1/2001-22:06 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer (Let Me Help)
MESSAGE: Hi Mike, I know this must be a tough decision for you. After all, I've only seen one Philco flap-o-matic washer in my life and I drove back 12 hours round-trip the next weekend to go back and pick it up after deciding what-to-do-what-to-do??? Of course you might find another Philco sometime, someplace in the not-too-distant future, just like the time I won the million dollar lotto two weeks in a row! LOL
Here maybe this link might help...
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/philcobendix/vwp?.dir=/Philco+Automagic+Action+Shots&.dnm=Low+water+wash.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 916-6/1/2001-22:07 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: ...So Easily Acheived With a Blackstone. (1938 Bendix)
MESSAGE: I kinda always thought Bendix was first, but then Blackstone and our good friends at Servis claim to be the first. Maybe Blackstone was the first top load automatic? Let's get the facts straight!
Maybe we should have a FAQ page for the major questions and answers. Oh Robert!!!! Another one for your list...
-ph
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Post# 917-6/1/2001-22:08 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer
MESSAGE: If indeed it is an Automagic, there is no question - you must have it... If it's a regular agitator washer, but still a Philco, you should still have it even if you don't intend on keeping it - would be fun to play with. Do you have a garage?
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Post# 918-6/1/2001-22:13 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer (what are you going to DO?!?!?!?)
MESSAGE: Mike,
What do you mean, "what are you going to do?" Are you daft, man!!! We'll all tell you what you are going to do, young man! You're going to get your happy butt in your truck/van and GO GET IT!!!! It's a Philco!!! go mike go mike go mike go mike goooooooo!!!!!!!!!
-ph
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Post# 919-6/1/2001-22:13 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer (Let Me Help)
MESSAGE: (sigh) This is one of the coolest washers - Mike you must go pick up that Philco - the Maytag dryer probably isn't a "collector's item," you can sell that or Krush it. If it's like the one in the Pic of the Day button photo, you must have that too!
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Post# 920-6/1/2001-22:19 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer (uh oh)
MESSAGE: What a horrible thought I just had. In one of my boxes of parts that I got off eBay, there's a WCI bag with all the WCI brand on it. Philco is one of them. What if this machine is a WCI Philco? I'd have to kill someone. Mike, you better call before you go...
-ph
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Post# 921-6/1/2001-22:25 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Recycle guy comes thru... (Baby Kenmore)
MESSAGE: No Peter, my '53 Kenmore is the 24" model. Don't worry about the agitator not turning, it could just be in gear. You can get all the parts you need for this machine, so its a cinch to rebuild. As a matter of fact, on Monday, I'm going to start rebuilding my 1952 Whirlpool and I will take extensive pictures of the restoration. This will be my last major restoration before the convention. But the '52 Whirlpool will be almost identical to '53 Kenmore. These machines are about as vintage as they come, underneath there are many difference, even compared to the '57 Lady. Here is a shot of my '53 Baby Kenmore, you can see its very different...
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/unimatic1140/vwp?.dir=/Kenmore&.dnm=1953+Kenmore+-+1st+24+Washer.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 922-6/1/2001-22:26 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer (uh oh)
MESSAGE: I don't think Philco ever made a WCI/Franklyn top loader. Does anyone else ever remember seeing one???
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Post# 923-6/1/2001-22:27 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer (uh oh)
MESSAGE: A WCI Philco???? Shameful
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Post# 924-6/1/2001-22:37 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer (uh oh)
MESSAGE: I think the Philco laundry appliances went away when Ford Motor Co. still owned Philco. Perhaps Westinghouse made Philco other things but not laundry appliances? Still, wouldn't hurt to check before one drives any distance...
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Post# 925-6/1/2001-22:50 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer (uh oh)
MESSAGE: True, true, but then so is a Westinghouse Frigidaire or a Westinghouse Kelvinator, and that didn't seem to stop them. :-(
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Post# 926-6/1/2001-23:11 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Recycle guy comes thru... (KM bolt down)
MESSAGE: Robert,
What's the status of you KM bolt down. Those old pics of it disassembled make me think you have it running by now, but I don't remember hearing...
-ph
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Post# 927-6/1/2001-00:17 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Recycle guy comes thru... (KM bolt down)
MESSAGE: The centerpost was in such bad shape that its up in the attic for parts in case I find another one.
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Post# 928-6/1/2001-00:37 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer ((go for it))
MESSAGE: Mikey
I'll play devil's advocate here...go for the automagic, if that's what it is. Who knows when you'll find another, especially one that runs. It could be a Philco front loader too... At least check it out and report back to us.
Rich
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Post# 929-6/1/2001-00:44 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: ...So Easily Acheived With a Blackstone. (1938 Bendix)
MESSAGE: That's a great idea, Peter. We need a fact sheet of the history of the automatic washer. Let's see...Bendix was the first automatic, Westinghouse had the first "soft mount" machine with a suspension system, Blackstone was the first agitator washer, now who had the first lint filter? GE? The first two speed? (There were two-speed wringer washers before there were even automatics.)
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Post# 930-6/1/2001-00:57 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer ((Westy Kelvinator???))
MESSAGE: Hi Scott
I've never seen a Westy Kelvinator. I know that WCI made the Westy inside/Frigidaire outside abomination, but all the WCI Kelvinators I've ever seen have the Franklyn stlye innards and agitator. Do you remember after a few years of having Westinghouse-style insides, WCI turned our Frigidaires with Franklyn-style insides? They really dragged "Frigidaire" through the mud! Eventually, WCI inbred all it's brands until we have the mutants of today.
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Post# 931-6/1/2001-00:59 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Thank You Scott!
MESSAGE: Your Majesty,
Like ever we are looking forward to your correspondence.
QLOTOC
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Post# 932-6/1/2001-01:07 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Recycle guy comes thru...
MESSAGE: A real fifties washer you found there Peter, very nice. I see now what the room problem is.
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Post# 933-6/1/2001-01:09 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere
MESSAGE: I don't want to sound like my mother, but are you eating properly every day?
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Post# 934-6/1/2001-01:26 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere
MESSAGE: Bear in mind, Your Majesty, that the Queen Mum has only your best interests in mind!
We are happy to report we have duly completed and sent our latest correspondence to you, including some new family pictures!
QEOM
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Post# 935-6/2/2001-02:28 ||| Miss jet cone (HOPKINS ,MN)
SUBJECT: the new web site
MESSAGE:
Hello to all. I just wanted to say hi and say that
I love the new site. you guy did a excelent job !!
Miss jet cone
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Post# 936-6/2/2001-03:29 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer (Philco-Snatched!!!!)
MESSAGE: Miker if you don't go get it I will! Hows that for motivation?
Jetcone
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Post# 937-6/2/2001-05:57 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Recycle guy comes thru...
MESSAGE: Great pictures, Peter! Those Kenmores (72's) are great. So is the '53. Guess the car has been displaced!
Steve 1-18
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Post# 938-6/2/2001-05:59 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: more of today's finds
MESSAGE: OOOOOOOOH. Am I going to have to make a trip out, today?
Will call you later.
Steve
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Post# 939-6/2/2001-09:39 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: the new web site
MESSAGE: Hi Miss Jet Cone! Welcome to the club, we look forward to hearing from you.
Todd
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Post# 940-6/2/2001-09:52 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Recycle guy comes thru...
MESSAGE: That's a beauty Peter! Nice score.
Todd
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Post# 941-6/2/2001-13:12 ||| Miss jet cone (Hopkins ,MN)
SUBJECT: RE: the new web site
MESSAGE:
thanks todd
I am a silent member .I run out thing to say
but I like to read every one's appliance info
but if any one would like to talk to me about
washer I will try to be of help
thanks miss jet cone
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Post# 942-6/2/2001-13:18 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Recycle guy comes thru... (1953 Kenmore Washer....)
MESSAGE: Wow PeterH770:
That's a nice find there. To be as old as it is, that 1953 Kenmore looks like it is in fine shape. That looks like the same one "Uni" has, doesn't it??
Oh, by the way, is that a 1960's GE "Commercial" Dryer that you have in your photo?? There is "presently" a GE dryer at my parent's SC home that looks similar to the one that's in your photo. As far as I know, it is still hooked up and is still in service.
--Charles--
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Post# 943-6/2/2001-13:29 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer (uh oh)
MESSAGE: Actually "Uni"
I don't think that WCI has ever started making washing machines for Philco. I believe Philco was LONG gone before WCI even started getting onto the scene. I have to back Scott on this one. Philco was phased out before WCI was out, and definitely before they started acquiring companies like Frigidiare, Gibson, Kelvinator and Westinghouse.
--Charles--
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Post# 944-6/2/2001-13:32 ||| Appliguy (Vienna Va.)
SUBJECT: Does anyone have a picture of a 1971 Kenmore 800 Automatic washer
MESSAGE: The first washer I recall my mom having was a Kenmore 800 automatic from the early 70's when it broke down and was repalced in december of 1983 I remember my mom & dad saying that getting 12 years out of the machine wass not a bad record seeing how my mom used it about 5 days a week. My mom later told me that she bought that machine to replace the one she had when she got married 2 years after they bought our summer home in 1969. She said they decided to take the 1963 kenmore 70 up to the lake and buy a new one for home since the 1963 model 70 would only be used during the summer ( that machine lasted until 1989 when my folks did the same thing again, this time repalcing the1983 Whirlpool Supreme, which replaced the 800., with a direct drive Kenmore 80). Before then mom had no washer at the lake and she didn't get a dryer up there until 1975. Anyway I was wondering if anyone could tell me what a 1970, 71, or 72 Kenmore 800 looked like because I have very fond memories of the one my mom had. PAT COFFEY
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Post# 945-6/2/2001-13:34 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer (uh oh)
MESSAGE: Uni:
Also, as an addend here. The thought of EVEN a "WCI/Philco" washer ever existing?? Well, that would be downright disgraceful.
Before that would happen, I'm glad that Ford phased them out when they had the chance to.
By the way, that was what my "late" great grandmother's Philco was. It was a "Ford"/Philco.
--Charles--
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Post# 946-6/2/2001-14:07 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Does anyone have a picture of a 1971 Kenmore 800 Automatic washer
MESSAGE: Appliguy:
I have a picture of a 1971 Kenmore Model 800 in my 1971 Sears Catalog. But unfortunately though, I don't have a "working" scanner right now, so I cannot scan a picture for you to see it. So, will you settle for a description??
The description of the Model 800 is as follows:
(01). It was the #3 Kenmore in the 1971 line (one behind the #2 Kenmore (which was a "push-button/dial stop" model)).
(02). It had three dials (with one larger cycle timer dial) and two more lever switches under the two smaller dials, and all the controls were at the right end of the console. The first smaller dial selected water level, and the other one at the right of the cycle timer selected the water temperature. The first lever switch selected a 2nd rinse, and the other lever switch was a soak selector.
(03). It had a detergent dispenser on the cabinet.
(04). It also had dispensers for bleach and fabric softener.
(05). It had a "full-width fluoresent" lighted console.
(06). And it had a Super Roto Swirl Agitator and a OBB.
It was a 2 Speed/6 Cycle washer.
Does that quite sums things up, Appliguy??
--Charles--
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Post# 947-6/2/2001-14:54 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Does anyone have a picture of a 1971 Kenmore 800 Automatic washer
MESSAGE: We got 15 years out of the 1962 Whirlpool. It raised three kids and handled a husband who ran a service station / tire store. The 1976 Whirlpool that replaced it went for 18 years.
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Post# 948-6/2/2001-15:46 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer
MESSAGE: Mikey, you're gonna take that, tired achy from working on the Frigidaire happy ....body of yours and put it in a truck and drive on over there and get ol Phil.
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Post# 949-6/2/2001-16:19 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Does anyone have a picture of a 1971 Kenmore 800 Automatic washer
MESSAGE: DADoES:
But then again, how many times per week did your 1961 and 1976 Whirlpools get used?? That may have a bearing on how long a machine can hold up as well. I don't know how many times per week our 1967 Kenmore Model 600 was used prior to me moving into my apartment years ago, but I do know that after I moved in, I was using it about twice a week. It was manufactured (and purchased) in 1967, and it lasted until 1990 (which was then replaced by the current 1990 D-D/D-A-A Kenmore). I would like to see if our 1990 Kenmore will hold up that long.
--Charles--
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Post# 950-6/2/2001-16:31 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Does anyone have a picture of a 1971 Kenmore 800 Automatic washer
MESSAGE: I would imagine the 1962 Whirlpool was used for at least three loads every three to four days. Remember, this was before disposable diapers (I guess it was, I don't know when disposables came on the market), so three kids worth of cloth diapers went through it. The 1976 was an 18-pounder, so there may have been a bit more time between washdays, but the number of loads per session was about the same.
If I remember correctly, the 1962 went through three overhauls -- there would have been only two, but the service shop somehow neglected to change one of the bearings on one of the jobs or something like that, so that one didn't last long. The 1976 never had any bearings replaced -- it still had the long spin tube, before they went to the short one that put the bearings under water. The timer was replaced once, and a couple belts, maybe a wigwag and a pump.
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Post# 951-6/2/2001-17:16 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Janney, Semple, Hill & Co. 1956 Appliance Line
MESSAGE: Today in the mail, I received a catalog from 1956 for Major Appliances. I was interested to see what brands they handled as I'd not seen any commonly known brands (for laundry) in the seller's listing. I was assured by the seller that there were automatic washers and dryers in the catalog - and there were!
Janney, Semple, Hill & Co.
22 South Second Street
Minneapolis 1, Minn.
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/surgilator/lst?&.dir=/Janney+Semple+Hill+%26+Co.&.src=ph&.view=t&.last=1
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Post# 952-6/2/2001-18:00 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer (uh oh)
MESSAGE: Actually "Charles"
Sometimes it wise to ask others in Applianceville if anyone has ever seen a particular machine before making concrete conclusions. While I was almost positive that WCI never made a "Philco" washer of WCI style, on occassion certain brands are marketed only in one area of the country. So just in case, its important to ask everyone if by chance they might remember seeing a WCI-Philco.
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Post# 953-6/2/2001-18:02 ||| nmaineman36 (Portland Maine)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer
MESSAGE: I decided that what I have now is enough. I do have a basement and thats where the others are. I need to enjoy the toys I have now before I go on a washer spree. I finally figured out what I did wrong yesterday with the Frigidaire and it took me 10 mins to get the washer back together and running. What a difference a new belt makes. I have already replaced the filter and the belt...my next thing is the agitator. I have a couple of new dings in it from the old filter falling out. I wasnt happy to see them but I may get a new one or cut the dings out and sand them smooth like I did before.But at 50 bucks or more I may just be a cuttin and a sandin! The washer now has plenty of power ..more than before. seems like the old belt would slip and not drive the system like it should. So now it really washes well and the extraction is great. I am loving this washer.
Mike
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Post# 954-6/2/2001-18:03 ||| nmaineman36 (Portland Maine)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer
MESSAGE: I decided that what I have now is enough. I do have a basement and thats where the others are. I need to enjoy the toys I have now before I go on a washer spree. I finally figured out what I did wrong yesterday with the Frigidaire and it took me 10 mins to get the washer back together and running. What a difference a new belt makes. I have already replaced the filter and the belt...my next thing is the agitator. I have a couple of new dings in it from the old filter falling out. I wasnt happy to see them but I may get a new one or cut the dings out and sand them smooth like I did before.But at 50 bucks or more I may just be a cuttin and a sandin! The washer now has plenty of power ..more than before. seems like the old belt would slip and not drive the system like it should. So now it really washes well and the extraction is great. I am loving this washer.
Mike
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Post# 955-6/2/2001-18:04 ||| nmaineman36 (Portland Maine)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer
MESSAGE: I cant believe I double posted that..sorry guys
Mike
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Post# 956-6/2/2001-18:10 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Does anyone have a picture of a 1971 Kenmore 800 Automatic washer (1970 800 Kenmore)
MESSAGE: Hi Pat, weclome to the new club. Nice to see you here. I have the Spring/Summer '70 Sears catalog. I scanned the page with the "800" and "700" models on it for you. See the link below.
This brings me to another sugject Applianceville. My big web project this weekend is going to be upgrading the Libraries and making them easier for me to install new scans. I would like to have every Sears catalog washer and dishwasher page scanned and placed in our Library from the first Automatic in the Spring/Summer 1950 book through the belt-drive years. I have the following Sears catalogs:
SS 1950
FW 1952
SS 1956
FW 1959
SS 1961
SS 1963
FW 1964
SS 1965
FW 1969
SS 1970
FW 1972
FW 1975
FW 1979
FW 1986
For those who have a scanner and other catalogs, if you could donate your time to the library and scan the washer and dishwashers pages, your donation will be much appreciated. Consistency is important, lets all scan as clearly and straight as possible, with your scanner set at 100dpi. Just email them to me at Webmaster@classicappliances.com. It will be so much fun someday to have every issue in our library!
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/miscbrands00/vwp?.dir=/quick+share&.dnm=2.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 957-6/2/2001-18:14 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Janney, Semple, Hill & Co. 1956 Appliance Line (Beam Stirkes Again)
MESSAGE: Hey Greg, great scans. I did see a Marquette Dryer at a sale once. The washers are obviously Beam machines and the dryer at the end is a Hamilton. Gotta love that Surgamatic washing action and bowl shaped tub. I love how that dryer comparision chart only compares the BOL machine on some brand to their own, talk about false advertising. Thanks for the scan.
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Post# 958-6/2/2001-19:07 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Does anyone have a picture of a 1971 Kenmore 800 Automatic washer (1970 800 Kenmore)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the scan of the 1970 Kenmores. Granny had that "700" model in avocado, leading into the Whirlpool Design 2000.
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Post# 959-6/2/2001-19:10 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Does anyone have a picture of a 1971 Kenmore 800 Automatic washer (1970 800 Kenmore)
MESSAGE: Well Uni:
So do I (.. :-)):
I can help you up to 1986. But I have to get my scanner working first. The Sears Catalogs that I have that have the "Belt-Drive" washers in them are as follows:
S/S 1957
F/W 1958
S/S 1960
S/S 1961
F/W 1963
F/W 1966
F/W 1967
S/S 1968
F/W 1968
F/W 1969
S/S 1971
S/S 1975
F/W 1976
F/W 1981
F/W 1984
F/W 1985
And that's it as far as the catalogs with "Belt-Drive" Kenmore washers are concerned. I noticed in your list, that you have a 1986 S/S catalog listed. I guess that was the one with the last "Belt-Drives" in it, right?? I have a F/W 1986 Catalog and mines has the first "Direct-Drives" advertised in it. Some time in the near future, I've got to get my scanner up and running. But actually, I am leaning toward getting a "step-up" HP scanner right now. I am leaning toward a model in the 4300 series. But unfortunately, the money is not in the budget for one right now. But if I can help out after I attain one, I'll be more than happy to do so.
--Charles--
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Post# 960-6/2/2001-19:13 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Janney, Semple, Hill & Co. 1956 Appliance Line (Beam Stirkes Again)
MESSAGE: Uni:
I also think the Marquette machines were "Beam" made machines. That was the same conclusion I just drawn. They look too much like Speed Queens for me not to.
--Charles--
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Post# 961-6/2/2001-20:16 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Does anyone have a picture of a 1971 Kenmore 800 Automatic washer (1970 800 Kenmore)
MESSAGE: I had the dryer that is shown on the bottom right.
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Post# 962-6/2/2001-20:19 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Does anyone have a picture of a 1971 Kenmore 800 Automatic washer (My washer)
MESSAGE: If the washer on the top right has a second rinse switch that is the same machine I grew up with. It was replaced with the first direct drive that died an awful death. I don't know how that could have happened. HAHHAAHA
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Post# 963-6/2/2001-20:21 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Does anyone have a picture of a 1971 Kenmore 800 Automatic washer (Sears catalog)
MESSAGE: I have the 83 book. I'll get working on the scans this weekend.
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Post# 964-6/2/2001-21:08 ||| Scottishsweeper (Edinburgh, Scotland)
SUBJECT: SERVIS SUPERTWIN
MESSAGE: Does anyone have a picture of the above machine as sold in the States under the Speed Queen brand? I think this machine is the Rolls Royce equivalent of twin tubs sold in the UK.
Kev.
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Post# 965-6/2/2001-21:36 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Janney, Semple, Hill & Co. 1956 Appliance Line
MESSAGE: Greg, Marquette was a Minneapolis company known primarily for their freezers and refrigerators. I did know that they offered laundry equipment at one time, and the machines appear to be of Beam derivation.
I have a feeling the Sun-Aire dryer is a Hamilton.
Scott
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Post# 966-6/2/2001-21:48 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Janney, Semple, Hill & Co. 1956 Appliance Line (I want Vacuum Fluffing!)
MESSAGE: Greg how does Vacuum Fluffing work exactly?
Jon
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Post# 967-6/2/2001-21:55 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Janney, Semple, Hill & Co. 1956 Appliance Line (I want Vacuum Fluffing!)
MESSAGE: Drying clothes is a process that involves tumbling the wet clothes while warm, dry air is moved over the load inside the tumbling chamber. This process, as opposed to stationary line drying, moves and flexes the fibers of the fabrics being dried creating a more full, or "fluffy" feel to the fabric.
How's that?
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Post# 968-6/2/2001-22:19 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Janney, Semple, Hill & Co. 1956 Appliance Line (Vacuum Drying)
MESSAGE: I love it Greg! Now I'll go watch my other dryers too! I shipped your subtop on Wednesday did you see it yet?
Jetcone
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Post# 969-6/2/2001-22:19 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: Another Lady
MESSAGE: Got home from Atanta about 2 hours ago with a gas 67 Lady Kenmore (that matches the electric one I got from Peter H last Sunday and the washer I got a couple of months before).
Peter H posted that there were 2 gas LK's. Well, by the time we got to Abby's, number 2 was buried, upside down in the recycle bin (Booooo Hooooo). Oh well, I got one.
When I got home I plugged it in out in the driveway with the door open. No interior light came on. It was then I noticed that there was no door switch visible. I popped the top off and it appears the switch is there, just the part that protrudes out is broken off. I managed to wedge a screwdriver up into the hole and I could hear the switch click. With the screwdriver in place, I plugged it back in and pushed the start button. It whirred to life. I then pressed the heat button and guess what? It has a spark ignition and it works, too. Well, that was all for tonight. I unplugged the LK and came in. Looking forward to cleaning her up tomorrow.
Will post pictures soon.
Steve 1-18
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Post# 970-6/2/2001-22:21 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: MIke Philco??
MESSAGE: Mike you have definetly decided not to go get that Philco?
Are you sure? The club needs one ya know. Let me know for sure before I go and call them.
Jet
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Post# 971-6/2/2001-22:27 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: FOUND...1968 Frigidaire with Rapid Dry
MESSAGE: I was over to Grays today and sneeked in back to see what was there and there she was the RapidDry I have been looking for.
I dragged her home and as soon as the Bendix is done I'll dig into her. She looks in good shape, no cone hop! Very good sign for a Jet-Action rollermatic machine!!!
THey also had a Norge Timeline Dryer , which I think was a Hamilton in disguise. I have no more room for dryers but I really liked the lines on it!
Jet
LINK: http://www.graysonline.com/
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Post# 972-6/2/2001-22:28 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: MIke Philco??
MESSAGE: I think you can gas up the truck and call them, Jon...
-ph
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Post# 973-6/2/2001-22:29 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer (uh oh)
MESSAGE: Steve 1-18 has seen a WCI Philco, and here is the pick of the very modern Elux Frigidare parts that say it's for Philco too...
-ph
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/vwp?.dir=/Yahoo!+Photo+Album&.src=ph&.dnm=WCI+Philco.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/lst%3f%26.dir=/Yahoo!%2bPhoto%2bAlbum%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 974-6/2/2001-22:32 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: FOUND...1968 Frigidaire with Rapid Dry (Poo on that link!!!)
MESSAGE: I thought the link was for a pic of these machines! Oh poo!! Jon, you're such a tease!
-ph
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Post# 975-6/2/2001-22:33 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Janney, Semple, Hill & Co. 1956 Appliance Line (Sub-top)
MESSAGE: Haven't seen it yet - should be here monday - Thanks!
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Post# 976-6/2/2001-22:54 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: FOUND...1968 Frigidaire with Rapid Dry (Poo on that link!!!)
MESSAGE: I second that!
Steve 1-18
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Post# 977-6/2/2001-23:01 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: SERVIS SUPERTWIN
MESSAGE: I've seen Servis spindry machines here in Canada before, sometimes marketed under the Simplicity label. Don't have any pictures for you though ;-(
Eddy
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Post# 978-6/2/2001-01:58 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer (uh oh)
MESSAGE: I too have never seen a WCI laundry product with the name Philco on it. I believe that when Ford sold off this branch, the Philco and Bendix name were sold to an Italian firm that manufactures machines under several names including Bendix, Thor, etc. that are possibly marketed in different countries (Thor and Bendix info if found on the web is from Australia.) I don't know what relation these names have to Electrolux and WCI now, unless there is some electronics line?
I posted a link to the Philco site that uses the same logo as on the parts bag - there must be a relationship, but not marketed in the US? Louis, can you remember the discussion we had a couple of months ago about aquisitions of Italian appliance manufacturers and Electrolux?
LINK: http://www.philco.it/first/Default.htm
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Post# 979-6/2/2001-01:59 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: SERVIS SUPERTWIN (Speed Queen Supertwin)
MESSAGE: Hello Scottishsweeper and welcome to the club. I found and scanned this 1974 Speed Queen Supertwin brochure. I belive this is the machine you are referring to. Did Servis produce this machine for Speed Queen?
Check out the link below...
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/miscbrands00/lst?.dir=/quick+share+2&.src=ph
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Post# 980-6/3/2001-02:02 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Janney, Semple, Hill & Co. 1956 Appliance Line
MESSAGE: I think someone in our family had a Marquette chest freezer - that's all I've ever seen of them before. The catalog covers their territory by state and counties, Thurston and Cuming counties are listed, so that would all fit! (yes, Cuming - we have a street in Omaha named Cuming and the intersection of 69th and Cuming is always cause for a snicker!)
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Post# 981-6/3/2001-02:03 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer (Plastic or Rubber?)
MESSAGE: Hmmmm, we'll you better call anyway Jon and ask her what does that agitator look like? Ask her if there is any rubber on the agitator?
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Post# 982-6/3/2001-02:16 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: SERVIS SUPERTWIN (Speed Queen Supertwin)
MESSAGE: But the SQ transmission, agitator w/210 deg. stroke are in this version. Could there be a relationship here too?
What did you find saleing today? Skyler and I went to three sales and have a couple more to hit tomorrow - found only an old Lux (Robertshaw works) kitchen timer that I needed desperately as my clock stopped completely on the RCI-58! Hope you guys had a good time!
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Post# 983-6/3/2001-02:20 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: SERVIS SUPERTWIN (Speed Queen Supertwin)
MESSAGE: That's very true, I didn't think about that. I wonder if these Supertwins are somehow related between the US and UK?
Pictures of the estate sales will be posted in the morning.
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Post# 984-6/3/2001-02:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: FOUND...1968 Frigidaire with Rapid Dry
MESSAGE: (Sigh).... Spinning over 630rpm in a Frigidaire - what a dream that would be!
Did you get the boot problem solved with the Gyramatic? Can't wait to see pics of that up and running like new. Restoration should have been a breeze since it was in MINT condition!
Nasty little trick with that link there, mister!
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Post# 985-6/3/2001-02:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: SERVIS SUPERTWIN (Speed Queen Supertwin)
MESSAGE: But it is morning!
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Post# 986-6/3/2001-02:45 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Janney, Semple, Hill & Co. 1956 Appliance Line
MESSAGE: Greg, thanks for the scans, really wonderful!! It's almost spooky how much interesting materials this club has.
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Post# 987-6/3/2001-03:22 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer (uh oh)
MESSAGE: Yes Greg, I remember. I went back to the Electrolux site and looked again at the brands they own. Philco isn't among them. Here they are (I don't think the latest purchases are mentioned:
AEG, Allwyn, Arthur Martin Electrolux, Corberó, Electrolux, Elektro Helios, Eureka, Faure, Flymo, Frigidaire, Frigidaire Gallery, Husqvarna, Juno, Kelvinator, Maxclean, McCulloch, Menalux, Partner, Poulan, Rex, Rosenlew, Samus, Tappan, Therma, Tornado, Volta, Voss, WeedEater, White-Westinghouse, Zanker, Zanussi, Zanussi-Samus, Zoppas
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Post# 988-6/3/2001-03:47 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: SERVIS SUPERTWIN (Speed Queen Supertwin)
MESSAGE: I don't believe it!!!! That is a 70's ánd 80's Zanussi dryer!!! I'll search for the brochure and scan the picture.
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Post# 989-6/3/2001-04:45 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: SERVIS SUPERTWIN (Zanussi picture)
MESSAGE: I scanned a page from the 1982 Zanussi brochure. These models are quite similar to the Servis/Speed Queen dryer. At the bottom of the page the BOL model control panel is shown. The text says that it has a door that is smaller (2/3). I remember that the 70's models look even more like the Servis/Speed Queen dryer. If I ever come across one I'll have to make a picture!!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius?e&.intl=us&.flabel=fld1&.from=d&.pindex=23&start=9999&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius%3fd%26.flabel=fld1%26.intl=us%26.src=ph
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Post# 990-6/3/2001-04:57 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: Electrolux art
MESSAGE: While I was minding some club business at the Electrolux site, I came across an interesting link that shows what artists can do with appliance parts. I guess there is not only a second life for some appliances, but eprhaps even a third. I wonder who gets inspiration from these pictures...
LINK: http://www.sthlms-reprografen.se/electrolux/EX-ECO.html
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Post# 991-6/3/2001-08:59 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: FOUND...1968 Frigidaire with Rapid Dry (I don't believe it)
MESSAGE: You can't believe what Jon did to fix his new Bendix Gyramatics' door boot! This new tactict holds promise for other vintage front loading machines too. Stay tuned, I'll let Jon explain.
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Post# 992-6/3/2001-09:00 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: SERVIS SUPERTWIN (Zanussi Supertwin Dryer)
MESSAGE: Cool picture Louis, but is this really the same dryer?
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Post# 993-6/3/2001-09:03 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Electrolux art (This gives me ideas)
MESSAGE: I love the fish-coffee table and the dishwasher sprinkler. Hmmmm, this give me some ideas. Now all I need is some time.
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Post# 994-6/3/2001-10:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Here’s this weeks episode of the cybershow. For those who may be new to the club, every Saturday many of us search the Estate/House sales in our respective cities for vintage appliances and take pictures of the experience and the machines found. Here are the pictures from yesterday. It was a big Whirlpool day and before I forgot to mention it to everyone, I found an Apex...
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/estatesale3/lst?&.dir=/Estate+Sale+Saturday+June+2+2001&.src=ph&.begin=9999&.view=t&.order=&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/estatesale3/lst%3f%26.dir=/Estate%2bSale%2bSaturday%2bJune%2b2%2b2001%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 995-6/3/2001-10:14 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Congrats on your Apex! I know several people that have coin-op Maytags in their homes - rebuilt ones from the Maytag distributorship/coin laundry biz.
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Post# 996-6/3/2001-10:16 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: GE Dryers with Antibacterial Option - ????
MESSAGE: I was reading the ads today and this GE dryer (TOL) caught my eye. It has an antibacterial option, I checked the web side and there is no explanation of this, nor in any press releases either. Anyone know what this is?
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Post# 997-6/3/2001-10:28 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (Lucky you )
MESSAGE: I thought you found another apex washer I was gonna hate you before even getting to meet you (laughing) I went hunting yesterday and did not find a thing going back out this afternoon.
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Post# 998-6/3/2001-10:29 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Dryers with Antibacterial Option - ???? (not a clue but sounds like)
MESSAGE: sounds like the ultaviolet bulbs they use to put in dryers ... but then again its speculation
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Post# 999-6/3/2001-10:34 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Dryers with Antibacterial Option - ???? (not a clue but sounds like)
MESSAGE: That's the first thought that crossed my mind, but wasn't the mercury outlawed or some such thing? I was hoping to have a better explanation from the website, but this is GE we're talking about here. They have a speed dry option too, maybe it's a higher temperature cycle?
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Post# 1000-6/3/2001-10:38 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Dryers with Antibacterial Option - ???? (GE brings good things to life )
MESSAGE: that pharse always make me laugh ... not many of the company washing sites have much useful information for people like us too many think its a chore to do laundry
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Post# 1001-6/3/2001-10:47 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: milestone of 1000 posts
MESSAGE: Congratulations to all of us. Applainceville is just pulsing alone. Just goes to show us all we're still awash with ideas and encounters. We won't wash out will we!!!
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Post# 1002-6/3/2001-10:49 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: milestone of 1000 posts (really thought I might win a prize )
MESSAGE: does not take long with all the coverstation going on and the many hunts throught the world going on for appliances
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Post# 1003-6/3/2001-11:17 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Dryers with Antibacterial Option - ???? (not a clue but sounds like)
MESSAGE: Greg, was this on their Wizzard mnodel? See if you can download the use & care book & other related material that might indicate explanation of cycles. Last time I checked, about 5 or 6 months ago, there was nothing to download then.
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Post# 1004-6/3/2001-11:25 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: That KDS15 was the exact model that was in the kitchen of the special summer day camp I went to from 1966-1970. That's the one where the maid loaded the gbottom rack almost like it was a 1950 Hotpoint impeller, everything was in a circular pattern, but facing toward the center. It used to drive me crazy. It was all I could do to go in there & reload the thing.
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Post# 1005-6/3/2001-11:36 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Uni:
From what I have gotten from this week's journey, I guess if I was there and I had to leave away with something, I guess I would've left away with that 29-Inch Whirlpool washer with the wood grain on its control console (although, that 24-Inch model has generated some interest from me as well). Other than that, I guess there wasn't anything to write home about this week. And to think that I thought that you have FINALLY found your Apex. When I read your post before clicking onto the link, I was thinking that "WOW!!!!! Uni has FINALLY found his Apex "Bouncing Basket" washer". I didn't think that you was going to lead us on and then in the end, I was going to end up seeing a vacuum cleaner. The next time I see an Apex posted in your post, that had better be a washing machine and not a vacuum cleaner, okay (LOL)???
On a much sadder note though, I also checked out THAT "new generation" Frigidaire, and to think now, what has that once proud brand has become and been reduced to. Certainly, that wasn't one of the Frigidaires we grew up with. And definitely, that certainly wasn't my great uncle's "Custom Imperial 3 Speed, Rapidry Spin" mid 1960's Frigidaire. After seeing the Frigidaire in your photo, all I can do is cry and act as if I was mourning the death of a valuable member of the family. To see what the Frigidaire brand once stood for, and then to see this, I have to say that was a travesty. What a shame, GM.
--Charles--
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Post# 1006-6/3/2001-11:38 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Dryers with Antibacterial Option - ???? (not a clue but sounds like)
MESSAGE: Hi Bob- did you get my email? I did download the owners/use manual and there was no further expl. of the anti-bact. option - just to mash the button to kill 99.9% blah, blah. But nothing on how it works. It was on the Wizard dryer, on sale this week for $604!
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Post# 1007-6/3/2001-11:52 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Uni:
Now, in the next to last house that featured the "coin-ops" in it. Was that an actual house?? Or was that a rental cottage that looked like a house?? I hope that was a rental cottage. Because to put a pair of coin operated machines inside of a "mainstream" American residence has to be a concept that I haven't heard of before, and is virtually unthinkable. That's a concept I don't think I can adapt to.
But that GE coin operated washer is one am definitely familiar to. We still have several of those installed in our neighborhood laundromat around the corner from my apartment. They have been in service since 1989, and they are still going strong. However, a few of them were removed to make way for the Wascomat "Double Loader Plus" Juniors. So now, there are about six GE's left, and this is from a "mat" that originally had about 15 of them. Thank god that the GE's that are still in service are the older belt-driven models. There is a "mat" in the vacinity of my area that has the newer GE's installed in them, and they ain't worth shit.
--Charles--
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Post# 1008-6/3/2001-12:06 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Electrolux art
MESSAGE: Nice to see those parts being used in such a creative way. I have a few too many agitators on my back porch at the moment! Maybe I should put them to better use. BTW Louis, do you own an agitator of any sort?
Eddy
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Post# 1009-6/3/2001-12:18 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: SERVIS SUPERTWIN (Zanussi Supertwin Dryer)
MESSAGE: Yes Robert, I'm positive about it. The picture I posted is of a more modern model, but the 70's models are exactly the same. BTW, the cheapest model has the door that covers only 2/3 of the front and looks more like the Servis dryer. But if I ever come across one, I'll do an attempt to get a picture of it. You'd be surprised. Louis
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Post# 1010-6/3/2001-12:32 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: You're indeed a naughty brat, getting such a modern Frigidaire to spin. You're not supposed to touch these things! Congratulations on the Apex, I bet the bouncing basket is coming. Have you thought about putting an ad in the newspaper like you did for the Frigidaires?
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Post# 1011-6/3/2001-12:34 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Dryers with Antibacterial Option - ????
MESSAGE: Since it's a GE, isn't it just a dryer with a bad thermostat? When it toasts the clothes, I bet the bacteria have gone LOL.
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Post# 1012-6/3/2001-12:43 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Electrolux art
MESSAGE: Hi Eddy, although I have seen agitators when I was young in wringer washers, I haven't seen one in a while. Last one I saw was of the Miele wringerwasher (without wringer though) the wife of my landlord had. Unfortunately I was too late when she got rid of it. And to answer your question, no I don't have an agitator. Makes a nice pedestal or a foot for an ashtray (I don't smoke). Louis
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Post# 1013-6/3/2001-13:56 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Electrolux art
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, we find the appliance art quite pleasing!
QEOM
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Post# 1014-6/3/2001-14:12 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: THE GREATEST HISTORY LESSON EVER TOLD
MESSAGE: Back when I was in college I spent many a evenings in the library, of course I was suppose to be studying my homework, but guess what I really was doing? I was reading and photocopying all the washer information I could get my hands on.
How many times have we found articles on the history of the washing machine and found them to be totally inaccurate? The only way to get accurate history on the washing machine is to read articles created at the time that those washers were new. During the 30’s, 40’s and 50’s the two main consumer-rating publications were Consumer Reports and Consumer Research Bulletin. These two magazines were in big competition for readers. If you take the time to actually read these articles (and there is a lot of reading here) you will learn the real history of the Automatic Washer, presented in a fascinating and somewhat opionated way. I was riveted to these articles when I first came across them. One thing to remember, these ratings are somewhat subjective to the individuals’ tastes who wrote these articles and the ratings should never be taking and the end-all answer to how a machine really performed. Especially when you see that CU rated a machine very highly and then right after CRB turned around and rated the exact same machine very poorly and vice-versa! But they do tell a great story of what was going on before and after the war with the American washing machine buying public.
More articles will be loaded soon, but for now, this will start you on the road to the greatest story every told! If you go right now to the Consumer Rating Library on the home page of our web site you will find hours worth of reading on the long history of the automatic washing.
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Post# 1015-6/3/2001-16:44 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: THE GREATEST HISTORY LESSON EVER TOLD (Terrific!!)
MESSAGE: Robert, thanks to you I had a wonderful night reading!! With a big bowl of chocolate icecream I browsed through all the tests and really enjoyed all the washer tests. I have so many thoughts that I can't write them all down here. The Frigidaires are ofcourse wonderful machines, but who am I telling. I still have a weak spot for the Launderall and ofcourse the ABC/Kelvinator washers are also among my favourites. Thanks for sharing these tests with us. Louis
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Post# 1016-6/3/2001-21:01 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: THE GREATEST HISTORY LESSON EVER TOLD (Stunned Silence)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the incredible work you've done - you've given everyone so much to read, posting has stopped for the day!
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Post# 1017-6/3/2001-21:05 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Dryers with Antibacterial Option - ???? (not a clue but sounds like)
MESSAGE: Greg, I sent you an email to the address in your A-ville profile. I didn't receive one from you.
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Post# 1018-6/3/2001-21:13 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: Lady "K" dryer update
MESSAGE: Sunda, May 27th, Rhinnie and I went to Atlanta to pick up the electric Lady K mate to the piano key washer. Then late Friday, I read that Peter H has found not 1 but 2 gas versions, so once again, we hit the road.
Today, Sunday, I spent most of the day working on the gas dryer and in the 'studio.' I swapped the tops, as the gas machine wasn't in as good shape as the electric's.
I ran more gas line and added another connection for "Lady K." Several trips to Lowes to get black pipe, fittings, valves, flex line AND.... they have 26" lamps! YAY!!!!!
Go the dryer "fired up" tonight. It is one hot dryer! Will wash some rags tomorrow and the Lady will have her first load in her new home.
Will do the pictures one day this week.
Steve 1-18
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Post# 1019-6/3/2001-23:27 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Dryers with Antibacterial Option - ???? (not a clue but sounds like)
MESSAGE: I sent it again - checked in my Netscape mail (in process of changing to I.E., IE won't take the address book info from Ntscp) and your address was right and the one I got from you today was the same. I re-sent it again - we'll see what happens.
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Post# 1020-6/3/2001-23:36 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: THE GREATEST HISTORY LESSON EVER TOLD (Stunned Silence)
MESSAGE: Reading bits here and there through the day, I'm only up to May '48 and loving it all! Such great resource possibilities this library will be (and is!) When some young High School sophomore boy writes a report on appliances for his economics/marketing class, we'll be here for him. Wish this was there for me when I did it! Thanks so much Robert, this is great!
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Post# 1021-6/4/2001-07:09 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: THE GREATEST HISTORY LESSON EVER TOLD (Stunned Silence)
MESSAGE: Glad your enjoying this, I love the stories of how long waiting lists had formed to get an automatic. And how CU and CR both said that the automatic didn't clean anywhere near as well as the conventional machines, but women didn't care, they wanted that automatic. Notice that in the May 1940 report, on page 3 where it rated the little bolt-down Bendix they said and I quote "Rinsing Action Extremely effective". YUK! I think that machine rinses terribly, the worst I've ever seen actually. But, it probably rinsed better than dipping the clothes in a sink full of water that was used over and over again, is what they mean. Our standards have definately gone up.
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Post# 1022-6/4/2001-07:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: THE GREATEST HISTORY LESSON EVER TOLD (Stunned Silence)
MESSAGE: The "dewatering cycle" cracks me up! There was mention in one of the early reports of a coal fired water heater - imagine that horror! It was impressive how Frigidaire moved up in the ratings, but was qualified all through the years as being the best in most areas, but only downgraded for the tangling which may have been an operator problem anyway.
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Post# 1023-6/4/2001-07:54 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: THE GREATEST HISTORY LESSON EVER TOLD (First Beam Machine)
MESSAGE: yes, the april '48 report was not very nice was it? Notice who else was in this same report, the very first Beam made machine, the AMC-Coronado. I would LOVE to find that first, glass-lid Beam machine!
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Post# 1024-6/4/2001-08:09 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix POTD (Hard or Soft?)
MESSAGE: Greg, begging Peter's pardon, but they were bolt down. I'd be willing to bet my hard mount on this because I asked a friend of mine, Mr. Underwood who was the Philco-Bendix serviceman who sold me my Duomatic and who also had a couple of coin laundries about getting one of those machines and he said it had to be bolted down. The double load machine had a tub the size of the original Duomatic and there was not room inside the cabinet for it to do a lot of jumping around. There was no suspension system because it was cheaper to build to build them that way. Tom
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Post# 1025-6/4/2001-08:16 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: THE GREATEST HISTORY LESSON EVER TOLD (I was up all night)
MESSAGE: Thanks so much for posting the CU reports ... Yes DEwatering gave me a chuckle... coal fired waterheaters but it also gave us a glimse into the need for america to have possesions to have an identity.. the long waiting list for automatic washers. It is funny how some of thier stories changed as the years passed thanks again for the great histroy lesson
Philippe
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Post# 1026-6/4/2001-08:25 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (Very nice KM! )
MESSAGE: Unless you are going to run all the elements wide open on HIGH at once with the oven on, you don't need a 50 amp breaker for the range. I have run many of them off 30 amp dryer circuits. When the oven is baking, it draws 3750 watts when it cycles on, well below the 6000 you are allowed on a 30 amp breaker. Since it is a single oven range you should not have any problems. Lots of the houses in our old neighborhood had 60 amp service panels but allowed for an electric range. If you also wanted an electric dryer and/or air conditioners you had to heavy up, unless you did like our neighbor and had an electric dryer and two 220 volt ac units on the 60 amp service. You just ran the dryer when only one ac was on. Tom
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Post# 1027-6/4/2001-08:26 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Recycle guy comes thru... (70's GE dryer)
MESSAGE: Hey Chas,
The dryer is a mid 70's "clothes conditioner", as GE called their dryers. It needs new bearings. It came with the house, and works great otherwise. In my limited dryer experience, I have always found GE to be a great dryer.
-ph
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Post# 1028-6/4/2001-08:48 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: ...So Easily Acheived With a Blackstone. (its the first)
MESSAGE: Robert, I guess you never got out to the shed in John's back yard to see the really old Bendix with the cycles printed in silver on black squares and little pointer knobs for the cycle indicator and water temps. The porthole door opens down, I think, but it is a square cabinet. Tom
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Post# 1029-6/4/2001-08:52 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer
MESSAGE: Mikey, Don't fight the feeling. Tom
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Post# 1030-6/4/2001-08:54 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: ...So Easily Acheived With a Blackstone. (Deluxe)
MESSAGE: That's the Deluxe Cabinet version of the original '38 Bendix. It came out about '39 or '40.
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Post# 1031-6/4/2001-08:57 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer (uh oh)
MESSAGE: There are lots of Philco washers made in Italy also. Tom
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Post# 1032-6/4/2001-09:06 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (silly question)
MESSAGE: Hmm, running a dryer when it's hot enough to turn your AC on, means that it's also hot enough outside to hang your clothes on. Is that common? No wonder everybody complains about high energy prices. Louis
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Post# 1033-6/4/2001-09:25 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer (uh oh)
MESSAGE: Somehow PHILCO by Ford never had the same cachet as FRIGIDAIRE made only by Genral Motors. TT
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Post# 1034-6/4/2001-09:49 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Janney, Semple, Hill & Co. 1956 Appliance Line
MESSAGE: Greg, Loved it, especially all the ???????? after vibration free operation; thanks for sharing. I think they were wrong about the Hamilton not having closed door broiling, I mean illumination. Those lights are on when it is running. They would have been on in all the models with germicidal lamps, but without windows, I guess you lose points when the illumination can't be seen. TT
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Post# 1035-6/4/2001-09:54 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer (uh oh)
MESSAGE: Robert, you mean like the Bendix Economat washer we have in almond that is a dead ringer, you should pardon the expression, for a 70s Westinghouse front loader? WH or WCI had the rights to the name although Dexter had the manufacturing rights for the actual tumbler machines for the commercial market. TT
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Post# 1036-6/4/2001-09:58 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Janney, Semple, Hill & Co. 1956 Appliance Line (Beam Stirkes Again)
MESSAGE: The bulging front on the TOL Marquette looks really Hotpointy also. TT
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Post# 1037-6/4/2001-10:01 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Janney, Semple, Hill & Co. 1956 Appliance Line (I want Vacuum Fluffing!)
MESSAGE: Vacuum fluffing is what you are doing to your hair while the coffeemaster is brewing, multi-tasking. TT
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Post# 1038-6/4/2001-10:11 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (silly question)
MESSAGE: Louis, clothes lines are very rare now in the USA. When I first bought my house it had an old line in the backyard that hadn't been used in years, so I took it down. You see a few yards with clothes lines around yet, but its even more rare to see any clothes actually hanging on those lines. When I do see clothes hanging they always look so wrinkled.
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Post# 1039-6/4/2001-10:12 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Janney, Semple, Hill & Co. 1956 Appliance Line (I want Vacuum Fluffing!)
MESSAGE: Actually, Greg, certain manutacturers made a lot of vacuum drying as opposed to dryers like Norge that blew the air through the machine. Do you remember when "Freeze Dried" coffee first hit the market, no you are too young, well they made such a production of evaporating the water from the freshly brewed coffee in a vacuum. The vacuum dryer manufacturers said that their dryers were more efficient because as we all know at lower air pressure water boils at lower temperatures. They claimed that the vacuum drying lowered the air pressure in the drying chamber so that the evaporation increased because the moisture "boiled off" as it were to a greater degree than it would in a blower type dryer with the same heat input. To really be significant, the pressure would have to be much lower than was achieved by the blower, so much so that the cabinet would have probably partially collapsed from the difference in pressure to say nothing of how much air it would have drawn out of the house to achieve this. TT
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Post# 1040-6/4/2001-10:16 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: FOUND...1968 Frigidaire with Rapid Dry
MESSAGE: John there was nothing similar about the Norge and Hamilton dryer designs unless you have stumbled on some missing link. The washers were a different story. Did you mean washer? TT
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Post# 1041-6/4/2001-10:22 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer (uh oh)
MESSAGE: I wonder if the VOSS brand that Electrolux owns is related to VOSS wringer washers so famous for their small square ads in the back of Better Hams and Giblets in the late 40s through the 50s? TT
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Post# 1042-6/4/2001-10:23 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: FOUND...1968 Frigidaire with Rapid Dry (TimeLine Dryer-HAmilton??)
MESSAGE: Hi Tom! I'll check the Norge Dryer again to see but my friend BOB at Grays said that He thought it was a Hamilton and when I opened the door there was that "sunRay" lamp on the upper rim of the door opening so I assumed it was a Hamilton.
The Rapidry 1000 turns out to be in MINT shape even the bearings are fine so I just cleaned it up and installed it and already it has done its virgin load!!
Cheers Jet
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Post# 1043-6/4/2001-10:25 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (You have to understand)
MESSAGE: Louis
There are many housing development that prohibit Clothslines since they devalue the property with laundry exposed. California is the worse on those home owner covenants
Of course in South Carolina it is the norm to place your appliances on the front porch for all to see along with our seniel relatives
Philippe
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Post# 1044-6/4/2001-10:26 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Janney, Semple, Hill & Co. 1956 Appliance Line (FLuffs-R-Us)
MESSAGE: I'll fluff you all over your Maytag Rinse cycle!
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Post# 1045-6/4/2001-10:30 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Janney, Semple, Hill & Co. 1956 Appliance Line (to fluff or not to fluff)
MESSAGE: Just to let you all know...
In my family, the term "to fluff" is a verb meaning "to pass wind", as in "EEEEEWWWWWWW!!! Who fluffed!!!"
I just can't seem to use the term in regards to laundry...
-ph
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Post# 1046-6/4/2001-10:31 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Dryers with Antibacterial Option - ????
MESSAGE: Greg, it's a high temp cycle that after the clothes are dry lets the temp go to 180 or something. It's also called overdrying. It's not hard to get some dryers that hot with dry clothes. It probably cycles on the hi limit thermostat. The catch is that while heat does kill bacteria, if a bacterium dries out while still alive, it encysts, and dry heat does not have much effect on it. That is why autoclaves use steam under pressure to kill microbes. Some GE dryers had a round orange light that lit up to indicate "Sanitizing." It probably would be good for eggs from mites and lice. Tom
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Post# 1047-6/4/2001-10:34 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Dryers with Antibacterial Option - ???? (not a clue but sounds like)
MESSAGE: Greg, they introduced the Sanitize thing in the 60s. Tom
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Post# 1048-6/4/2001-10:45 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (silly question)
MESSAGE: Louis, I know this is going to shock you, but there are neighborhoods, whole communities even, over here that ban the hanging of wash outside to dry. You cannot put up a clothes line. A friend even got complalints when she put things on a folding wood rack on her screen porch. I will be the first to admit such insanity is out of bounds, but yes, we do use our dryers year-round over here.
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Post# 1049-6/4/2001-10:49 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (silly question)
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, drying one's clothes on a clothesline in America has become all but a lost art in America amongst folks under the age of 50; something which we have never really understood. It is free, very fast on the right days, and smells great! We fully intend to engage in this practice when we have a "yard", just as the Queen Mum and Princesses continue to. There are people who argue that additional ironing of articles is needed using this method, but I have not found that to be the case; quite the contrary. These are generally the same people unable to recognize the aesthetic value of a well-pressed garment, another often dying art in our realm.
QEOM
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Post# 1050-6/4/2001-10:55 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Janney, Semple, Hill & Co. 1956 Appliance Line (I want Vacuum Fluffing!)
MESSAGE: I remember Gibson used to say their dryers had the "vacu-dry" system. They often appeared on The Price is Right and other venues such as this. Perhaps this is something similar. Does anyone know if Gibson was an independent company in its pre-Westinghouse days, and if they or someone else manufactured their laundry products?
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Post# 1051-6/4/2001-10:56 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: FOUND...1968 Frigidaire with Rapid Dry (TimeLine Dryer-HAmilton??)
MESSAGE: Hi Jet! I love the '68 machines! Looking forward to seeing pictures of your new find! S
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Post# 1052-6/4/2001-10:59 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Dryers with Antibacterial Option - ???? (not a clue but sounds like)
MESSAGE: What is all this talk about Wizard dryers lately? I thought Western Auto had discontinued private labeling and was selling brand name appliances now?
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Post# 1053-6/4/2001-11:00 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: FOUND...1968 Frigidaire with Rapid Dry (TimeLine Dryer-HAmilton??)
MESSAGE: Jon, deluxe Norge dryers had a lamp above the door as well as the linkage to the Stop 'n Dry lever up there, but Norge had the solid drum with the three great big air openings at the back of each baffle and blew the air back to front. Hamilton used the perforated drum and moved the heat in a more vertical path with the "Carrier Current" moving mostly through the base of the drying chamber. Tom
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Post# 1054-6/4/2001-11:00 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (silly question)
MESSAGE: And I thought there were less rules in the US. Hmmm, I don't think the dutch would settle for such rules, most housewifes still like to hang out the laundry (including me LOL). I think I will have to make a few pictures on a bright day.
Next question: If you use your dryer on a hot day, does anyone use an air only cycle or do you just as well let the dryer heat up?
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Post# 1055-6/4/2001-11:10 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Janney, Semple, Hill & Co. 1956 Appliance Line (to fluff or not to fluff)
MESSAGE: And in my Miele manuals, they use the term laundry fluff to mean lint. Texize introduced a fabric softener in the early 60s called Laundry Fluff (I think) to compete with Staley's Sta Puf. It did not smell as good as Sta Puf, but it was cheaper. TT
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Post# 1056-6/4/2001-11:16 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Janney, Semple, Hill & Co. 1956 Appliance Line (FLuffs-R-Us)
MESSAGE: Jon, you are such the romantic one.
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Post# 1057-6/4/2001-11:19 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: elevator operators
MESSAGE: I have much more sympathy for the elevator operators of my childhood after trying to zip down or up to just the right posting in these long columns. I seem to have to bump up or down once or twice before coming to a stop at the correct number. TT
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Post# 1058-6/4/2001-11:21 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (Air Dry on Hot Days)
MESSAGE: I would take forever to dry most clothes on air-dry Louis, even on hot days.
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Post# 1059-6/4/2001-11:27 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: elevator operators (Use the back arrow!)
MESSAGE: Right after replying to a post Tom, hit your back arrow button a few times and it should take you back to the spot in the pink index where you left off, as opposed to trying to manually find the last message your read.
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Post# 1060-6/4/2001-11:34 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (silly question)
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, in America the generation of children that is now roughly our age were about the last to be raised in homes where domestic arts were given priority. Around 1970 or 1975, these practices slowly began to be abandoned, and as a result today we have suburbs full of people who can't keep a house, iron a shirt, bake a decent cake or give a dinner party to save their bloody lives. Such persons, who were the subject of negative gossip in the Queen Mum's generation, are so common now that no one even flinches, and in fact it has gotten so out of hand that some dare to look down upon those who do have these skills.
We are now seeing the learned behavior of persons raised in these later generations being manifested in things such as these covenants being discussed here, and all sorts of other ugly things we'd rather not think about. While we don't doubt that these later children were loved, we find the lack of domestic standards today quite appalling.
QEOM
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Post# 1061-6/4/2001-11:34 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Hotpoint Microwave
MESSAGE: Did everyone notice that the Picture of the Day shows one of the very first microwave ovens ever produced, it's from 1957!
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Post# 1062-6/4/2001-11:43 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: elevator operators
MESSAGE: Thank you for that nice thought, Tom. Almost as much fun as seeing the appliances, vacuums and all the wonderful things one would see in the department stores was the fun and warmth of riding the attended elevators. Some of them were the same as the elevators of today (full center closing doors) only non-automatic, but my particular favorites were those that had only a gate for an inner door where you could see the floor to floor movement. Some even had windowed outer doors, and you could see out onto the floor and people waiting before the doors even opened.
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Post# 1063-6/4/2001-11:44 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: elevator operators (Use the back arrow!)
MESSAGE: Another trick I discovered is if you are going to reply and get buzzed and have to re log in, you go back to the top of the list. Hit back until you get back past the buzzer screen, and you can get back to the message you were going to reply to.
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Post# 1064-6/4/2001-11:47 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Microwave
MESSAGE: YAY. I guessed right! The Hotpoint has a very similar appearance to the Kelvinator microwave oven Greg and I saw at Pioneer Village, and the grid on the window was another hint.
I didn't know until I visited Pioneer Village that there were microwaves in the 50s. I did not see one the first time until in a Sears or Wards catalog probably in the mid 70s.
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Post# 1065-6/4/2001-11:59 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (Air Dry on Hot Days)
MESSAGE: I guess that was the silly question ;-)
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Post# 1066-6/4/2001-12:01 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (silly question)
MESSAGE: Thank you Your Majesty for your comments, I think Hyacinth also would be appalled if she heard that.
QLOTOC
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Post# 1067-6/4/2001-12:16 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (silly question)
MESSAGE: not to mention Sheridan! :)
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Post# 1068-6/4/2001-12:18 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Dryers with Antibacterial Option - ???? (Frigidaire washer "
sanitize"
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MESSAGE: Hi Tom
I've seen a setting on later model GM Frigidaire washers that is for sanitizing. Do you know if what that is about? Does it do anything special, like a hot rinse or something? Thanks.
Rich
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Post# 1069-6/4/2001-12:18 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: elevator operators (Use the back arrow!)
MESSAGE: Robert, thanks for the hint, but where I have the trouble, and it is just my clumsiness, is in the window of messages to be viewed, you have to use the up arrow to get to the next batch and I sometimes overshoot, like old thermostatic burner and surface unit controls and some talent in art films, and have to adjust it so that I don't miss an unread one at the bottom of the list while trying for the optimum number of unread messages in the pink area. No biggie, but I just thought of the adjustments the operators made to get the cab to just the right place to open as I watched the little darker gray elevator cabs move in the lighter gray shafts. TT
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Post# 1070-6/4/2001-12:21 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Microwave
MESSAGE: Did you know that the early ones were water cooled and would stop working when the cooling system needed water added to the radiator? John had just such a service call. TT
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Post# 1071-6/4/2001-12:31 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Microwave
MESSAGE: Wow. The things one learns here are quite amazing. No wonder those early micros were so large.
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Post# 1072-6/4/2001-12:33 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: elevator operators
MESSAGE: And the lady sat on the wooden fold down stool and had that pointer in her hand that she held out across the doors before she closed the folding gate. I think one of the reasons for the windows was to make it easier to align the two sets of doors. They were really neat pieces of equipment. I never got to inspect that control that they used as closely as I would have liked, but it was a pretty neat skill they had to bring that thing to a smooth stop with only a minor adjustment or two before opening the doors. The buildings on Capitol Hill used to have elevator operators and that Representative Wayne Hayes (who got into all that trouble with the secretary who could barely answer the phone) was so mean that he took the stools away from the elevator ladies and they had to spend their entire shift on their feet. Not many people felt anything but joy when he crash landed without the benefit of a soft controlled arrival at the floor of his choice in that scandal. Tom
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Post# 1073-6/4/2001-12:36 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Microwave
MESSAGE: Really! So he encounters ovens such as this still in service? How fun.
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Post# 1074-6/4/2001-12:37 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (silly question)
MESSAGE: I second that and I am unanimous about this emotion.
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Post# 1075-6/4/2001-12:39 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Microwave (Water Cooled?)
MESSAGE: Wow, I didn't know that Tom. How did the user fill the water tank or receptical?
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Post# 1076-6/4/2001-12:43 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (Air Dry on Hot Days)
MESSAGE: Louis, not a stupid thought if you were using the dryer outside on a hot day. Before we got the gas run outside for the dryers, I used a full size Whirlpool electric dryer outside on 115 volts, which gave it about 1400 watts of heat. On hot summer afternoons, it would dry a load of permanent press, spun at 1140 in about 35 minutes. So while it was not air fluff, it was pretty close to it, but you would have to have the dryer outside and have the cabinet of the dryer exposed to the sun to take advantage of the heat. Now if you had a dryer in an attic that got very hot, you might be able to dry without heat during the summer, but you would have to make sure it was vented to the outside so that the mositure did not stay in the attic to slow the drying. While I do not generally use the outside dryers in bitter cold, the very low humidity in cold weather makes for very fast drying inspite of the cold temperature. TT
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Post# 1077-6/4/2001-12:48 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Dryers with Antibacterial Option - ???? (Frigidaire washer )
MESSAGE: Rich, that kinda came about at the same time as cold water washing and was a way to sanitize the machine. You set the water level to minimum, used cold water, I think, added a cup of bleach and let 'er rip from the sanitize setting (final rinse on regular cycle). Supposedly it sanitized the machine for the next load, but I wondered how with the slow spinout it would get the upper part of the basket, unless you used normal agitate speed and it just splashed so badly that it threw water up there. TT
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Post# 1078-6/4/2001-12:49 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Microwave
MESSAGE: they were all 220 volt also.
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Post# 1079-6/4/2001-12:50 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Microwave
MESSAGE: It was a long time ago in a house in a wealthy part of town, but it was there then. This was before kitchen remodeling became the favorite parlor game of the nation.
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Post# 1080-6/4/2001-12:53 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Microwave (Water Cooled?)
MESSAGE: John said that there was a little slide out drawer, clearly visible in early Amana wall oven styles that you used to add water. They soon found that water cooling of the magnetron was not necessary, paving the way for $49 units from the third world. TT
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Post# 1081-6/4/2001-14:36 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Signing In (1961 Model versus 1970`s)
MESSAGE: Hi Jon
You`ve really got to catch up quick here, been away for the weekend and what happens, hundreds of posts to catch up on that will teach me!!
The machine that Louis posted was the first Keymatic model made in 1961, and was produced until the seventies when Hoover invented the new "Matchbox" style, square box , glass door, S/Steel door trim, the one you used, and the style we know today.
If I remember rightly the red keyplate was for cottons/nylons, heavy wash options, whilst the white keyplate was for woollens/delicates,rinse/spin etc.
I kinda always thought that this type of machine operation would stay around forever, with every new fabric produced all you had to do was make a new keplate. Who needs "PC Update, Pah!!
What did you think of little old IOW, I assume it was the West Cowes area, I think Louis and Scott would be right at home there, visiting The Queen Mum, in Queen Victoria`s residence, taking afternoon tea.
Cheers for now, Mike
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Post# 1082-6/4/2001-16:21 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: THE GREATEST HISTORY LESSON EVER TOLD (Revising Dream Machine List Now!)
MESSAGE: I think I need to do some revising of my dream list - maybe just add a few! That AMC would be sweet as well as an ABC-O-Matic, and Apex or Universal automatic and a few others. Dream and dream.....
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Post# 1083-6/4/2001-16:27 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix POTD (Hard or Soft?)
MESSAGE: I love the size of the cylinder on the Duomatic for use as just a washer, but the suspension can't always take that much. Usually about 1/2 - 2/3 full of dry clothes is about all I force it to tolerate - wouldn't want to need any shock absorbers anytime soon either. If I use the drying cycle after washing, I have to be careful about how much I load into it and what types of fabrics they are.
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Post# 1084-6/4/2001-16:50 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (silly question)
MESSAGE: Fresh air and vintage Downy - no other fragrance like it. Try your sheets once and you'll be hooked. My t-shirt was dried outside Saturday and still smelled fresh this morning. Reminds me of my grandma's house too - there's a lot of "charm" and drama in the whole process too.
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Post# 1085-6/4/2001-16:54 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (silly question)
MESSAGE: Right on, sister! Besides, how are your neighbors supposed to see that you have the whitest wash on the block if your clothes are down the basement in the dryer, for heavens sake! ;-)
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Post# 1086-6/4/2001-16:57 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Dryers with Antibacterial Option - ???? (not a clue but sounds like)
MESSAGE: I have never heard of this before - I always assumed it was a germicidal lamp on older dryers. Guess you could just use the timed cycle on any dryer and get the same, pointless, results.
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Post# 1087-6/4/2001-17:03 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (Clothes Lines)
MESSAGE: Silly rules aren't they - usually, around here are only "covenants" of the neighborhood or development put into place many years ago. The covenants for my neighborhood prohibited residency to all but caucasians. Discriminatory covenants were made unlawful in the early 60's, but I'll bet the neighbors would be crabby if I lined the driveway with old washers for the summer!
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Post# 1088-6/4/2001-17:10 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Norge Laundromat
MESSAGE: Another interesting eBay sale...
-ph
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1149083243
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Post# 1089-6/4/2001-17:10 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (Clothes Lines)
MESSAGE: Wow, I didn't think they had stuff like that in the north, and in a "later model" neighborhood like yours to boot...
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Post# 1090-6/4/2001-17:16 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Easy Spindrier
MESSAGE: I notice in someone's profile they mention a 1965 Easy Spindrier. I did not realize these were still being manufactured in 1965. Does anyone know when they last were produced (in America)?
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Post# 1091-6/4/2001-18:14 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Signing In (Inquiring minds must know!)
MESSAGE: Hi Mike, The following question is not meant to sound naughty, but... So to operate the Keymatic, you take this Key or Keyplate and insert it into the timer slot on the Washer to start it? Did the machine slowly but surely suck the thing into the timer assembly in set increments, or did it run like a clock motor and slowly pull it in? Could you push the key in further than just at the start position, lets say if you just wanted a rinse and spin? Or am I picturing this operation totally wrong?
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Post# 1092-6/4/2001-19:33 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: A little help with the Lady
MESSAGE: I can't seem to figure out the significance of the settings on the Lady Kenmore dryer. Any clues or help will be appreciated.
There are three buttons: start, air and heat (I could figure that out). The control knob has numbers from 1 to 8. 1 & 2 being the dryest settings, 3 through 6 are normal, and 7 & 8 are damp.
I dried a load of towels and rags (that were washed in the econoline front loader -- so they weren't super extracted). I used the setting number 6. The dryer ran for approx 30 minutes. The maximum exhaust temperature was 145 degrees and the dryer shut off at 100 degrees. All except a heavy floor mat were dry.
Also, if I use the 'air' setting, do the numbers have any significance?
I guess this model came out before the 30+ minute air cycle to keep wrinkles from setting in.
A little side note, I do notice that the Downey enhancer does help eliminating wrinkling if the clothes sit in the dryer after it shuts off.
Steve 1-18
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Post# 1093-6/4/2001-19:49 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: A little help with the Lady
MESSAGE: The numbers are just the dryness level. On most other dryers you have the auto setting with a mark noting the 'normal' setting. However yours has the numbers, just as John's does. I believe his was set at 5 and each time I used it everythig was dry, but not over cooked. The exhaust temp seems right on target. The numbers do not mean anything on the air setting. You should have a timed cycle on there too. It would be on the bottom half of the knob. You can use that for air only or if you don't want to use the auto dry cycle.
QOTS
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Post# 1094-6/4/2001-20:46 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (Clothes Lines)
MESSAGE: In Canada, things seem much more European. If you look down the back lane behind my house, you'd see that everyone with the exception of 1 house has a clothes line. This is common in almost every neighborhood here. And they are used. On any nice day, you'll see lines and lines of people's clean drying laundry in the backyard! I am actually shocked that this could be banned as unsightly!
Eddy
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Post# 1095-6/4/2001-21:02 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Signing In (Keymatic & IOW)
MESSAGE: Hi Mike:
I was charmed by the IOW. It reminded me of what Cape Cod is to Boston. A place for London folk to get away and a community with a long history with the Sea. I remember comparing real estate values and being shocked at the prices there.
So the Keymatic I used was a 1970's model!! Wow there must be some of them still around, I'd love to get my hands on one. It was a cool machine. Robert here asked me if it had that counter rotating disk in the back of the basket but to be honest I never actually looked inside since I thought it was constructed like any old tubmler.
Now that the Dyson machine has been out for awhile what if any has been the reaction to its cleaning ability? Have you seen any press on it lately? Have you seen any machines in the stores? I wrote for literature but they did not respond to my request.
Are you coming over for the Wash-In in August?
Cheers Jon
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Post# 1096-6/4/2001-21:08 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Laundromat (Nice Norges!)
MESSAGE: Peter There was a dry cleaners near my childhood home that had these machines for dry cleaning. They were turquoise. I always loved the swoopy doors! So Jetsons!!!
JEt
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Post# 1097-6/4/2001-21:32 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Laundromat (Nice Norges!)
MESSAGE: Hi Jet! Are you from Boston originally? Scott
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Post# 1098-6/4/2001-21:37 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: A little help with the Lady
MESSAGE: Steve1-18:
Actually, it did. The Lady Kenmore Dryer that you have came out in 1966 (if that's the correct one you are discribing...... a lever switch on the bottom most part of the console, three push-buttons in the middle of the console and a dryness control knob at the right of the console). The first "Wrinkle-Guard" model didn't come out until 1969 (and that would be the one with the "flip down" woodgrain looking cover).
--Charles--
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Post# 1099-6/4/2001-21:38 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Laundromat (Nice Norges!)
MESSAGE: I agree with you, Scott. Those are some nice looking Norges.
--Charles--
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Post# 1100-6/4/2001-21:42 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Laundromat (Nice Norges!)
MESSAGE: Scott, I was born here and grew up in Upper New York State. So I have alittle NY in me and alittle NE too!
IT was there that I saw the Norges.
jet
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Post# 1101-6/5/2001-02:51 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Signing In (Naughty `but` Nice)
MESSAGE: Hi Robert, Oh for a Keyplate!!! The Keyplate was a rigid piece of plastic four inches square,(size never mattered then)on each side was a number of ridges cut out which corresponded to a precise washing programme, with the keyplate turned over you had up to eight possible programmes on each plate.
The ridges in the plate then aligned with rods inside the machine connected to the programmer, still trying to find out what type of timer etc.
The Keyplates had the seven main HLCC laundry programmes, Home Laundry Care Codes)set by the British Textile Council of the time, these gave a precise programme of wash agitation, time/temp & rinse/spin,(never had a Holy Grail experience over here). Extra programmes where for pre-wash, Rinse/Spin or spin only etc.
Now then, instructions for use:
1. Take the Keplate firmly in hand and determine mode of operation.
2.Align Keyplate with recognised slot and place in outer rim.
3.Once aligned use enough pressure to slide in until resistance is felt.
4. Sit back,relax& enjoy.....(whilst machine does the wash)
There!!! easy peasy!!!
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 1102-6/5/2001-03:45 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: Clash of the Titans..........
MESSAGE: Jon, glad you enjoyed the IOW, great place to rest & relax...especially the yacht club.
The new model Keymatic that you used did have just the s/steel drum with tumbler action, as we are used to today. The first version, 1961 and in Louis`s pics, was a very different machine, sloping drum with a drop down door that you could use as a shelf. The drum was made of vitreous enamel (bluey/black speckled colour) and was mounted on a rigid steel chasis.At the back of the drum was a "Hoover-Active Wash Paddle" as used in hoover single and twin-tubs, which provided extra agitation for the wash if required. There was a switch on the fascia to switch the paddle on/off.I`ll keep up the search, there`s gotta be one somewhere???
Now to the Dyson, yep all the big stores have them and now the machines are set up to show you the actual wash action, and have a running video showing design, production & testing. They use red and white towels to show the cross-over wash action which is very impressive, I really feel passionate about James Dyson and his company, British Designer and Entrapaneur, puts his money where his mouth is, and is prepared to take on the mighty giants to show that a better product can be designed,produced& marketed.
For me personally, love the design and technology but £1000 for a coloured box of plastic does not do it for me, if it was all cool metal then yes, rather spend that kindda dosh on Miele/Asko Asea. Looks a great machine as well, there has been a lot of PR about the wash performance and results, most independant test results saying not much to choose on wash performance over Bosch/AEG/Miele etc, where you do gain is time and load capacity.
But....Watch This Space.... Titan is coming..... Any Day Now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cheers, Mike
p.s. I have full colour brochures, if you want to send address to my e-mail(chestermike@yahoo.co.uk) and I`ll post one on.I cant make this years Wash-In due to committments, but if anything changes...
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Post# 1103-6/5/2001-06:02 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: trouble
MESSAGE: When I signed on, none of the read messages from yesterday have changed color to show that they have been read. I had an incident with this yesterday after posting a reply also. What am I doing wrong? I have reloaded so often that the NRA is sending me membership applications. Has there been a change in the use and care instructions? veys mir
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Post# 1104-6/5/2001-06:09 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix POTD (Hard or Soft?)
MESSAGE: Greg, one of the few good things CU had to say about the combos in general was that because of the larger drum they tended to wash better than the regular tumbler washers of the time. The Duomatic, however, rated near the top of even the agitator washers, just under the WP, as I remember, when tested so it is a very good washer. I am sure that after almost 50 years the shocks are weakened to varying degrees in all of our Duomatics. Half to two thirds full was a regular load as recommended by the manufacturer. Tom
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Post# 1105-6/5/2001-06:11 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (silly question)
MESSAGE: Who's home to notice and with the air pollution how long will they stay white? dryer devotee
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Post# 1106-6/5/2001-06:18 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (Charleston had covenants )
MESSAGE: charleston had covenants not only for cloths lines but also for blacks and Jews ... I still hang stuff out and that is one of the main reasons why I am in the swamp lands and country side of SC
Philippe
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Post# 1107-6/5/2001-06:19 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: A little help with the Lady
MESSAGE: Jason, Steve's is before the time option. We found one of these in beautiful shape except for some minor things like a broken belt so we fixed it up and I used it a while. It worked great unless you put too large a load in it and things sorta settled against the sensors as the load dried which could give uneven results. We sold it in the used appliance booth John keeps in Boonsborough. TT
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Post# 1108-6/5/2001-06:24 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Laundromat (Nice Norges!)
MESSAGE: I would like to find one of the door glass pieces for the Norge combo/drycleaner at a flea market like I did for the Duomatic. It would make a neat salad bowl or ice bucket. TT
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Post# 1109-6/5/2001-06:29 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Laundromat (We to had a Norge laundry )
MESSAGE: I grew up in Manchester N.H and would ride my bike all over town to diffrent laundromats. when the Norge Village opened up with Dry Clean machines it was the talk of the town
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Post# 1110-6/5/2001-06:40 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (Charleston had covenants )
MESSAGE: I lived in Greenbelt, MD, which was a planned community built during the Roosevelt adminsitration. The population quotas were originally set to mirror the percentage of Protestants, Jews and Catholics in the area, which put the town light years ahead of many neighborhoods, but no matter what religion you were, the clothes had to be off the lines by 4 PM. I don't think that applied anymore when I lived there, but there were still lots of rules for the co-op. The houses were equipped originally with a two bowl porcelain kitchen sink with one really deep side for laundry and a sliding cover that formed a drainboard over the unused bowl. I have a copy of part of a film shown at the General Motors Futurama at the 1939 World's Fair and it briefly shows a lady doing wash in an Easy Spindryer at her Greenbelch home. TT
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Post# 1111-6/5/2001-06:58 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Signing In (Naughty `but` Nice)
MESSAGE: Thanks Mike, it would be really interesting to see one of these early Keymatics.
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Post# 1112-6/5/2001-06:59 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (I wish)
MESSAGE: I wish I had know you guys a few years ago I might have found parts for my easy spinner ... I really miss that thing...
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Post# 1113-6/5/2001-06:59 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: trouble
MESSAGE: I don't think its you Tom. The program still does some unexplained things. When that happens to me I just look for my last post and I know I left off right around there.
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Post# 1114-6/5/2001-07:22 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: trouble
MESSAGE: You can also use the History function to check where you left off. Hold down the control (Ctrl) key and push the letter H. A box will come up with all the sites you visited and you can select the last message viewed from that list.
Or, you can always post a message right before signing off, then just look for your last posting for where you left off. This is an easy way to find your place and, you will have had "the last word!"
Have a great day all.......
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Post# 1115-6/5/2001-07:40 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: trouble
MESSAGE: Thanks, Robert, That's what I do also, but sometimes there are situations that I want to verify are not caused by problems here. TT
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Post# 1116-6/5/2001-07:44 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: trouble
MESSAGE: Thanks, Greg, for the history lesson. I am printing it for future reference. TT
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Post# 1117-6/5/2001-07:58 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: Maytag to acquire Amana
MESSAGE: Press release went out this morning.
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Post# 1118-6/5/2001-08:32 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: trouble
MESSAGE: It has been doing that to me too Tom. But for some reason if I click on a few posts the little man that changes the color of the posts wakes up and the ones I have looked at change color.
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Post# 1119-6/5/2001-08:35 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: A little help with the Lady
MESSAGE: WHOOPS
Guess it would have helped if I looked for the year or remembered what year the machine was.
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Post# 1120-6/5/2001-08:40 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: DCI-58
MESSAGE: Robert,
I remember seeing alot of DCI-58's in the Sacred Graveyard pics, but you have a '59 in the basement? Why don't you have a matching set?
-ph
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Post# 1121-6/5/2001-08:42 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag to acquire Amana
MESSAGE: Guys,
Did we ever figure out who makes Amana's washers since Raytheon sold Amana off to Goodman and Alliance Commercial Laundry Systems? If Alliance actually makes the washer, the present design will probably endure...
-ph
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Post# 1122-6/5/2001-08:45 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Signing In (Hoover Keyplate)
MESSAGE: Sounds like the key pushed in on switches, kinda like pressing the buttons on a Maytag machine, and a timer automatically turned to the correct program...
-ph
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Post# 1123-6/5/2001-08:53 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: trouble (cool function)
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg, now that I've arrived at the Rock Pile, I just tried that CTRL+H History function and it works great. I never knew about that before.
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Post# 1124-6/5/2001-08:55 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag to acquire Amana
MESSAGE: That leaves Maytag, Whirlpool, GE and WCI left. Who's next on the chopping block??? Look at all the different brands in the 1954 CU report and look at us now, its just a shame.
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Post# 1125-6/5/2001-08:58 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Wasco Extract-o-matic in CT
MESSAGE: There's a guy on the Wascomat coin owners BBS that is trying to sell a Wascomat Extract-o-matic model P10. He's in Conneticut. The P10 is a really cute machine, softmount, 300+ G's extraction. I don't know how much one would go for, but you New England boys might want to try for it before he takes it to the Krusher.
-ph
LINK: http://www.wascomat.com
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Post# 1126-6/5/2001-08:59 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: DCI-58 (Frigidaire WCI-58 & DCI-58)
MESSAGE: Very good question Peter. Here's the deal, the link below shows what we found at the farm. The washer came home to Minneapolis and Jetcone took the dryer home to Boston. This was when I was still living with my ex-partner in his house and I was trying to be somewhat conservative on space. Now that I have more room, Jon is talking about send the DCI-58 back to Minnie so we can re-unite the set.
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/unimatic1140/vwp?.dir=/Z_Sacred+Junkyard&.dnm=My+WCI-58+pre-restoration.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 1127-6/5/2001-09:00 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Signing In (Hoover Keyplate)
MESSAGE: I think the key was more than that Peter. It sounds like the key acted as the cams for the timer.
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Post# 1128-6/5/2001-09:00 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag to acquire Amana
MESSAGE: Well, we could incorporate, snatch the undervalued brands from the current list of manufacturers and revitalize the laundry industry. I bet we could get Norge, Kelvinator and Westinghouse from Maytag and Elux fairly inexpensively...
-ph
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Post# 1129-6/5/2001-09:09 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag to acquire Amana
MESSAGE: And Robert, remember, the comment about each brand had a differentiator as its approach to the wash process, that was one of the competitive differences among the brands. Like you said, it's now ho-hum. But, I'd sure like to get those huge SS dryer drums in Maytag's line. So small to support both Atlantis & Neppies.
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Post# 1130-6/5/2001-09:31 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag to acquire Amana
MESSAGE: This kinda brings things to closure. Waaaaay back when, Maytag bought their freezers from Amana. Now they are buying Amana. I wonder if their refrigerators will get better. TT
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Post# 1131-6/5/2001-09:32 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: trouble
MESSAGE: Jason, mine don't change color unti I have posted a response and reloaded. tom
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Post# 1132-6/5/2001-09:59 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag to acquire Amana
MESSAGE: It's really like what happened in the car industry even before WWII. If you want a real shock, look through old Electrical Dealer and Appliance Manufacturer magazines from the 30s and see how many different brands of appliances there were and how close we were to many automatic washers just before the war. Blackstone showed one that would have gone into production if the US had not entered the war. A lot of these small operations closed for defense contracts during WWII and never came back to making appliances. Either that or when things began to need UL certification they decided it was easier to close than to make safe appliances. It is funny though how some companies can see ahead and others not. In the World's Fair film, Westinghouse had a big exhibit with ELECTRO a huge metal robot with all of these gears and motors that moved various parts of him, telling about progress and th ehome of tomorrow. WH had bought Conover's dishwasher manufacturing and had a pretty respectable drop door dishwasher, but their idea of a modern laundry is about as far off the beam as you would want for an appliance company. They showed this bulky sort of counter, like kitchen islands of today, with three tubs with agitators in them in a triangle around a spinner, all flush with the counter. You washed in one, spun out, then rinsed in the second, spun and rinsed in the third and spun again. It looked more like a commercial installation than a home, sort of like those what is the name, Wash a Mats(?) that had the two tubs with the Maytag agitators, later WP Surgilators and the extractor in between. But with Bendix having an automatic and Blackstone working on theirs I wonder why WH did not show something more sophisticated than a spindry washer. TT
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Post# 1133-6/5/2001-11:50 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: DCI-58 (Frigidaire WCI-58 & DCI-58)
MESSAGE: Does this mean we have to look out for a WCI-59 to match your dryer?
-ph
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Post# 1134-6/5/2001-12:14 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: DCI-58 (I have one)
MESSAGE: I have a WCI-59 in the attic. I just like the '59 dryer because its turquoise and its an air-flow model. Frigidaire Air-Flow dryers dry faster, at a much cooler temp than the Filtrators, but the clothes come out almost as soft as they do from a Filtrator. Kenmore and Whirlpool dryers have such a high airflow that the clothes come out with such a harsh feeling to them, at least as compared to a Frigidaire dryer. You'll have to try it at the convention.
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Post# 1135-6/5/2001-12:19 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: 54 Consumer Reports
MESSAGE: Hey Robert
Thanks for posting those consumer articles...ab fab reading! I have a question for you. Do you know how fast the Apex spun the clothes? The 54 Consumer Reports tests of washing machines stated the Frigidaire extracted the most water from clothes, leaving .57 percent. The second highest was the Apex at .72 percent.
The discussion of the models says nothing...just about every machine was rated "average" on water extraction, with Frigidaire being the favorable exception and Speed Queen and Bendix Economat being the negative exceptions. They don't list RPMs or even percent of moisture left in clothes. It seemed funny because in the narrative, CR goes on about choosing a washer with better extraction because it will save gas, electricty, and run time in a dryer, and your back when lugging heavy wet wash to the yard if you hang-dry. Then they provide practically no differentiation between the machines when it comes to extraction.
It made me curious about the Apex and its RPMs. Didn't the Norges spin above-average RPMs back then also?
Rich
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Post# 1136-6/5/2001-12:55 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Applianceville Statistics
MESSAGE: If your like me and like statistics, you’ll enjoy these two charts I created about our cyber-appliance activity. We’re definitely a busy group, with lots to talk about. See these two picture-charts at the link below…
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/miscbrands00/vwp?.dir=/Applianceville+Stats&.src=ph&.dnm=Number+of+Posts+we+do.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/miscbrands00/lst%3f%26.dir=/Applianceville%2bStats%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 1137-6/5/2001-12:57 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 54 Consumer Reports (Apex RPM's)
MESSAGE: The Apex spun at about 680rpm, the Norge about 625rpm. BUT the Apex had a really wide bouncing-basket tub which made for stronger G-forces!
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Post# 1138-6/5/2001-13:30 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Applianceville Statistics
MESSAGE: Oh dear! I guess we created a ghost town over at Yahoo! Whatever will become of it?
-ph
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Post# 1139-6/5/2001-13:36 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Applianceville Statistics
MESSAGE: Yes we did but this place feels more like home and is much better than Yahoo.
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Post# 1140-6/5/2001-13:38 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: Off Balance
MESSAGE: I know I'm off balance, but why oh why do I keep getting reminded? LOL
Robert, is there any way you can load the OOB buzzer noise into the page so when we do get buzzed we can hear it?
QOTS
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Post# 1141-6/5/2001-13:41 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: 57 on Home Page
MESSAGE: Robert, the 57 Frigidaire is pulsating with the timer in the OFF position. TT
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Post# 1142-6/5/2001-14:06 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Applianceville Statistics
MESSAGE: I for one have not missed Yapoo's antics. I simply look at the site to see who is on Messenger.
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Post# 1143-6/5/2001-15:42 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Off Balance (Yes, But)
MESSAGE: I thought it would be fun to record the buzzer sound on my '57 Lady Kenmore and have it automatically sound when you get the "you haven't logged in page". BUT those of us who work in offices might not want to annouce to the entire office that our wash-load went unbalanced, so to speak, so I decided not to do that. I was however thinking it would be fun to add washer sounds to the "Appliance Audio Page", so I can add the buzzer there.
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Post# 1144-6/5/2001-15:42 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 57 on Home Page (Oh for god sakes)
MESSAGE: Yes, the timer is shot.
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Post# 1145-6/5/2001-15:46 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Applianceville Statistics (more useless information)
MESSAGE: Since I posted the CU reports, here is a list of the most popular and unpopular reports...
Issue Number of Request for article*
May-37 25
Feb-59 19
Mar-40 17
Feb-46 15
May-48 15
Jul-46 14
Aug-58 14
May-46 13
Sep-49 13
Apr-48 12
Mar-47 12
Jun-48 12
Feb-48 12
Jul-48 11
Jul-50 11
Feb-54 10
Oct-46 10
Jan-48 10
Mar-54 10
Oct-47 9
Nov-52 9
Oct-55 9
Jan-57 8
Feb-47 8
Nov-53 7
Dec-52 (dw) 6
Nov-50 6
*This is the total number of requests divided number of pages in each article
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Post# 1146-6/5/2001-15:53 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: 57 on Home Page
MESSAGE: That might be, but Robert gets many kudos for making the pulsator pulse 1 7/8's of an inch to the scale of the pic!
-ph
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Post# 1147-6/5/2001-15:55 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Off Balance (Yes, But)
MESSAGE: Great idea to ad an off balance buzzer to the Audio page. I never heard one, so if you do I will finally get my maiden buzz!
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Post# 1148-6/5/2001-16:08 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: Calypso dry-cleaner?
MESSAGE: I found this on the web...interesting. Seems Whirlpool is claiming the Calypso machine can handle most dry cleaning jobs...even suits. Hmmm...
http://www.kwtv.com/investigators/consumer/CW2601.htm
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Post# 1149-6/5/2001-16:13 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Calypso dry-cleaner? (oops!)
MESSAGE: why didn't my link work??
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Post# 1150-6/5/2001-16:19 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: Oh...duh...I see
MESSAGE: OK...I see the URL link to share box now...
Hey let's get one of these inflatable washers and fill it with foam in Robert's backyard during the convention!!!! What frolicing fun that would be!
LINK: http://www.funtimehire.co.uk/washing.html
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Post# 1151-6/5/2001-16:21 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Calypso dry-cleaner? (here's the Calypso link)
MESSAGE: Here is the link to that newstory on the Calypso washing clothes that could previously only go to a drycleaner..
LINK: http://www.kwtv.com/investigators/consumer/CW2601.htm
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Post# 1152-6/5/2001-16:53 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: Classicappliances e-mail not working
MESSAGE: Robert, I tried to send the sears scans to the addy and it keeps getting returned. It says it has a permanent fatal error. Should I send them your personal addy?
Jason
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Post# 1153-6/5/2001-17:16 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: trouble (cool function)
MESSAGE: Next to the back button in Internet Explorer, there is a small down arrow button - if you click on that, it will show a window with your last 9 or 10 pages viewed and can click on the one you want to return to.
In Netscape, you can click and hold on the back button and the same list (only longer I think) will come up and you can move down (with the button held down on the mouse) and move to the page you want.
Ctrl-H is also a nice feature for deleting pages you don't want anyone to see you've looked at - if you were on someone else's computer, etc.
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Post# 1154-6/5/2001-17:28 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Off Balance (Appliance audio)
MESSAGE: You can replace some of the short sound bytes with Windows alerts, etc. My machine played the audio of the 55 Frigidaire going into spin at every start up. The buzzer would be fun for "critical error" alerts, we could record the high speed spin start up of the Bendix washers, on and on.
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Post# 1155-6/5/2001-17:43 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Off Balance (Appliance audio)
MESSAGE: Already did that. I just need to find more washer sounds to replace the default sounds
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Post# 1156-6/5/2001-18:47 ||| appliguy (Vienna Va.)
SUBJECT: RE: Does anyone have a picture of a 1971 Kenmore 800 Automatic washer (re 1971 Kenmore 800 thanks Charles & Uni)
MESSAGE: Charles,
Your description of the 1971 Kenmore 800 washer sounds just like what I remember my moms machine being like. The only thing I don't remember on hers was the fabric softner dispenser. My mom has used Bounce in the dryer for probably about 40 years. In fact my moms 800 looked very similar to LK with the pull down panel but it didn't have one. My favorite part was watching the detergent being swept into the machine from the dispenser at the start of the wash cycle. I do remember that My moms 800 had a gold roto swirl agitator with the word kenmore printed on the top. Uni thanks for the scan but neither of those machines were the one I am looking for. I would give anything to meet you. You are such a knowledgeable guy. I f you ever come to visit Tom & John here in Maryland give me a call as I live not to far from them over in Northern Va. My number is 703-938-4908. I am hoping that maybe I can get to the washer convention and meet all you wonderful club members. Only time will tell. Anyways thanks again to everyone who answered my post PAT COFFEY
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Post# 1157-6/5/2001-19:06 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Oh...duh...I see
MESSAGE: (gasp!!) That looks like so much fun - our own version of "Studs and Suds!"
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Post# 1158-6/5/2001-20:13 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: 57 on Home Page
MESSAGE: What a hoot, Tom? I had to go look for myself. (LOL)
Steve 1-18
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Post# 1159-6/5/2001-20:15 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Off Balance (Other sounds)
MESSAGE: How about "How Dry I Am?"
Steve 1-18
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Post# 1160-6/5/2001-21:14 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Classicappliances e-mail not working
MESSAGE: Thats strange Jason, the there is a 5mb limit on attachments on email though this server. Yahoo limit is 3mb. How big are the files? Are you