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Post# 20000-7/17/2002-18:24 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire WM11 (Pulsator Envy!)
MESSAGE: Hi Chris
What a great find you have, see what you mean about the seven sided pulsator, does it spin the water out or manual drain???
Wouldnt like to be near that pipe if it spins the water out fast...
Mike
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Post# 20001-7/17/2002-18:31 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A genuine Hoover Twin Tub portable on E-Bay! (hoover spinner twin tub)
MESSAGE: ah, so this is our twintub Keith! Welcome Keith!
Scott.
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Post# 20002-7/17/2002-18:32 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Less Than 2 Hours Left
MESSAGE: Who will be the proud new owner of the 58 Filtrator?
No bids yet...1 hr 45 min left
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2038333205&r=0&t=0&showTutorial=0&ed=0&indexURL=0&rd=1
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Post# 20003-7/17/2002-18:36 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: what on earth is this? (Now, they make Crock-Pots)
MESSAGE: Interesting history lesson - and a cool little washer also. I've never bought one of these because you couldn't watch the action unless the lower portion was some sort of clear container - no fun to watch it just sit there and hum....
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Post# 20004-7/17/2002-18:38 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Less Than 2 Hours Left
MESSAGE: oh dear, I hope someone bids on that nice dryer! Bob, why don't you buy it, so you'll have a matching dryer when you get your washer? :)
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Post# 20005-7/17/2002-19:09 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A genuine Hoover Twin Tub portable on E-Bay! (Welcome)
MESSAGE: Hi Keith, welcome to Applianceville. Its always so much fun to hear from other collectors! The Keymatic sounds really cool, if you get a chance to post some pictures we would love to see it sometime.
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Post# 20006-7/17/2002-19:58 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Less Than 2 Hours Left
MESSAGE: Scott, that $300 bid, plus shipping means I either come to the convention or I buy a Filtrator dryer. Hmm. Which do you think I'd decide?
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Post# 20007-7/17/2002-20:05 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Less Than 2 Hours Left
MESSAGE: Well, we certainly don't want you to miss the convention! I do so wish *somebody* will buy it though, or that it will be put up for bid again. I can't stand the thought of it being hauled away. The last vintage Frigidaire dryer (a pink one from about 65 or so) did quite well as I recall; in fact someone in the club may have even gotten that one?
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Post# 20008-7/17/2002-20:05 ||| Gregm (Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire Pulsator Washers
MESSAGE: Anyone have any clue how I can find/obtain/purchase/get an old Frigidaire washing machine with the "pulsator" washing action??
Any assistance, or if anyone has or knows of someone who has these item/s for sale and could let me know, I would greatly appreciate it !! Thank you :)
gregm978@aol.com
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Post# 20009-7/17/2002-20:37 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: Appliance Convention Room Rate
MESSAGE: Made my reservation for the convention tonight. I was asked by the clerk if I belonged to AAA, which I do, and was told I was given a discount. The price quoted for a single room, non smoking, was $89.10 plus tax. How does this rate compare with other attendees? Jimmy
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Post# 20010-7/17/2002-20:43 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Appliance Convention Room Rate
MESSAGE: I think mine was $79 two of the nights, and $84 the last night. I think there is a discount for booking online (I did mine through Expedia at the same time I bought the airplane ticket).
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Post# 20011-7/17/2002-20:46 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Appliance Convention Room Rate
MESSAGE: My rate, booked online was $69/night for all nights (plus tax)
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Post# 20012-7/17/2002-20:59 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Correct Convention count? (Added names)
MESSAGE: Consider it done!
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Post# 20013-7/17/2002-21:19 ||| jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Control Tower PULSAMATIC Found Today!! (Wow! Nice find!! July is Pulsamatic Month)
MESSAGE: Uni: NIce find on the pulsamatic! We must designate July as Pulsamatic month! Gizmo got one, you got one and I shipped one to you in July last year!!
July is Pulsamatic Month people!!
See you all at Johns!!!! Missed you all , I have been dug in learning how to take 3D pictures my new hobby. Now I am ready to take 3D of the convention ---------soooooooo dress nice everybody!!
See you in 3D!
Jon and AL
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Post# 20014-7/17/2002-21:21 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: Appliance Convention NEW ROOM RATE
MESSAGE: Thanks for the info guys, I cancelled my phone reservation @ $89.10/night, and made an online reservation at $69.00/night for the first night and $67.00/night for the second and third nights. Thats quite a savings! I urge attendees to make their reservations online. The savings is almost one night free! Jimmy
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Post# 20015-7/17/2002-21:22 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Pulsator Washers (The Hunt Is On...)
MESSAGE: Hi and welcome to the club! You certainly have come to the right place, we all want Frigidaire Pulsator washers!!
Most of the Frigidaires that some of us have in our collections have been found at estate sales, thrift stores, recycling companies that take old appliances, used appliance stores, etc. Searching takes time, dilligence and patience, but as we have seen with some of our members in the last few weeks, the machines we want are out there waiting to be found. I really wish there was a place to go and pick them out like new shoes, but unfortunately, it's not that easy, but it's also part of the fun of collecting too.
Best of luck in your searching and again, welcome to the club!
Greg
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Post# 20016-7/17/2002-21:50 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Correct Convention count? (Sounds good!)
MESSAGE: Sounds good it looks done!
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Post# 20017-7/17/2002-21:54 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Pulsator Washers (What kind?)
MESSAGE: Which kind of Pulsator washer do you want?
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Post# 20018-7/17/2002-21:56 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Directions for the Convention.
MESSAGE: When do we get directions for the Convention?
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Post# 20019-7/17/2002-22:23 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Appliance Convention Room Rate (same here!!)
MESSAGE: Mine was the same Greg, or I should say about the same, $69.30 plus tax for all three nights plus tax. The only condition is that you cannot cancel. Scott, you might want to check into this and save a few dollars. Terry
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Post# 20020-7/17/2002-22:26 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Control Tower PULSAMATIC Found Today!! (Wow! Nice find!! July is Pulsamatic Month)
MESSAGE: Jon, greatly relieved to see you. 3D in DC/BLT, sounds like alphabet soup to me. Darn, I was gonna wear rags. Oh. Give Al a big hug & pat for me (can see his tail waggin' now)!!
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Post# 20021-7/17/2002-22:29 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Control Tower PULSAMATIC Found Today!! (Wow! Nice find!! July is Pulsamatic Month)
MESSAGE: And of course, we'll have to keep monitoring that pulse throughout the month. Live water action for ever!!!!
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Post# 20022-7/17/2002-22:42 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Appliance Convention Room Rate (same here!!)
MESSAGE: to what website did you guys go to to get this rate? Thanks!
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Post# 20023-7/17/2002-23:24 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Directions for the Convention.
MESSAGE: We will all meet up Saturday morning at the hotel and everyone will get directions to everything.
Jamie, I have been in contact with your Mom and she has all the details and knows where to go. You don't need to worry, just enjoy.
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Post# 20024-7/17/2002-23:27 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Washer Question.
MESSAGE: Did the Abc-O-Matic way of washing mold into the Kelvinator way?
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Post# 20025-7/18/2002-05:22 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Appliance Convention Room Rate (room rate)
MESSAGE: Scott, I went to www.holiday-inn.com Hope you can make a change and get the lower price. Terry
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Post# 20026-7/18/2002-06:59 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Washer Question. (You are correct)
MESSAGE: Hi Jamie, yes your are absolutely correct! The ABC-O-Matic washer was made by the Altorfer Brothers Company of Peoria, IL and was introduced sometime in 1949. The ABC-O-Matic washer was a big seller in the early 1950's as Consumer Reports rated them #1. Nash-Kelvinator made refrigerators, ranges and wringer washers but needed to market an automatic washer. So they contacted ABC and asked them to make an automatic for Kelvinator, using the same ABC-O-Matic design but placing a Kelvinator Badge on the machine.
Have you been able to watch video of the ABC-O-Matic in action?
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Post# 20027-7/18/2002-07:00 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire WM11 (Pulsator Envy!)
MESSAGE: Hi Mike.
Yes, it's funny how we expect things to have even numbers of sides - I noticed the shape, thought, hmm, is it six or eight sides? - counted them, seven! Had to check again!
It spins the water out, but the pump out isn't spectacularly fast - there is enough space in the outer drum to hold a full load of water, so it can get out of the inner tub quickly and then pump out into the sink at its leisure. You can even close the outlet hose (it has a spring loaded ball to block oulet) to retain the water inside the outer drum. (suds saver)
Chris.
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Post# 20028-7/18/2002-07:04 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire WM11 (Weak Pumps)
MESSAGE: YUP, Unimatics and Pulsamatics and early Multimatics had very weak pumps, because there were no was need to rush the draining process. When the 12lb tub was introduced in 1963, GM increased the size and power of their pump.
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Post# 20029-7/18/2002-07:33 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire WM11 (multimatic)
MESSAGE: Hi Robert.
Sorry to do this to you again, but...
I've more or less got my head around Unimatics and Pulsamatics, but what is the difference between a
Pulsamatic and a Multimatic? Did the Multi replace the Pulsa, or was the Multi used on more deluxe versions at the same time?
I assume the Multimatic was to give a higher spin speed (?), how fast was it?
Thanks
Chris.
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Post# 20030-7/18/2002-07:58 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Electric Drain Pumps in Modern Dishwashers for the James
MESSAGE: Hi Robert.
can you replace the seal in the James DW with an oil seal? I haven't the faintest idea what the James seal looks like, but I have replaced the seal in many small washing machine pumps with an oil seal available from any bearing specialist. You either go in with the old seal, or if it's too wrecked, just the inside and outside diameters and the thickness of the seal. I even got a seal for the main drum bearing in a Keymatic this way. (the Keymatic seal was unusually thin, it took some chasing but I did find one) In the rare rare case you actually get a choice of single or double lip seals, go for the double lip. You can put a smear of water-tolerant grease in between the two seal lips.
Good luck with it.
Chris.
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Post# 20031-7/18/2002-08:13 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: Peter770 - What about Frigidare from eBay?
MESSAGE: Hey,
Did you ever get your Frigidare from you eBay win?
Brent
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Post# 20032-7/18/2002-08:19 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Control Tower PULSAMATIC Found Today!! (ATC before ATC?)
MESSAGE: The Hoover Keymatic (slope front) had a crude type of ATC - it used the heater's thermostat. It had three temperatures, 100, 140 and 185 degrees F. If the incoming water exceeded the programme's temperature, it would drop back from hot to warm (hot+cold) fill, or warm to cold fill. If it was below temperature, it would boost it with the heater.
Chris.
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Post# 20033-7/18/2002-08:21 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Washer Question. (Another Kelvinator Question)
MESSAGE: Hello all,
Out of all of the machines that I hope to find one day, I had a dream that I found a Kelvinator W/D set at an estate sale. The dream was so real that it took about 5 minutes after I woke up to get out of the fog of not finding this. (yet)
Here is the question. How long did Kelvinator machines have the wash action like the ABC? Or, what was the last year that this type of action was used in the Kelvinator? Between the Frigidare and Kelvinator and ABC, I have to say that those machines get me going more so than any other top loader. Never seen one live though. Thanks to all of the wonderfull videos and pictures that all of you have posted, I have been able to experence it somewhat.
Thanks
Brent
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Post# 20034-7/18/2002-09:38 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Peter770 - What about Frigidare from eBay?
MESSAGE: Awaiting patiently (barely)...
-ph
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Post# 20035-7/18/2002-09:42 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire WM11 (multimatic)
MESSAGE: The single speed Unimatics and Pulsamatics were replaced in the 1959 model line with the Multimatic. The Multimatic is basically a modified Pulsamatic that brought the pulsating back down to 330 ppm with a 1 3/4" pulse (220 ppm on slow). I'll let another expert quote the spin speed.
-ph
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Post# 20036-7/18/2002-11:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire WM11 (multimatic)
MESSAGE: Hi Chris,
Here is the timeline and speeds for all Frigidaire Mechanisms made in the US and Canada:
Home Models:
1947-1958 Unimatic 330ppm – 1140rpm
1955-1958 Pulsamatic 630ppm – 630rpm
1959-1962 Multimatic 330ppm or 220 ppm & 850rpm and 330rpm
1963-1964 Multimatic 330ppm or 220 ppm & 850rpm and 330rpm
1965-1969 Rollermatic 330ppm or 220 ppm & 1010rpm, 6?0 and 330rpm
1970-1979 Rollermatic (1/18) 360ppm or ??? ppm & 710rpm and ???rpm
Coin-Op Models:
1959-1964 Unimatic 330ppm – 1140rpm
1965-1969 Super-Duty 330ppm –1010 rpm
1970-1976 Rollermatic ???
Can you guys with Tech-Talks handy fill in the question marks? I’m doing this from memory.
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Post# 20037-7/18/2002-11:08 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Electric Drain Pumps in Modern Dishwashers for the James
MESSAGE: Hi Chris, no the seal is a simple rubber bladder the clings tightly to the sides of the pump impeller rotor shaft. Unfortunately the cling has weakened over the years and has loosened its grip, allowing water to run down the shaft and out of the pump. Without a new bladder type seal there is no saving this baby, time for a new pump.
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Post# 20038-7/18/2002-12:01 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: 7/18/2002 P-o-t-D
MESSAGE: Love it, a perfect view of that machine.
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Post# 20039-7/18/2002-12:12 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: 7/18/2002 P-o-t-D (35 minutes of joy)
MESSAGE: 2 kids watching and enjoying a belt-drive whirlpool washer in action.
If that doesn't brighten your day, nothing will.
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Post# 20040-7/18/2002-12:17 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Washer Question. (I got something right for once!)
MESSAGE: Yesssss! I got it right! I have been able to see the ABC-O-Matic in action on the ABC-O-Matic Wing.
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Post# 20041-7/18/2002-12:23 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: I am confused.
MESSAGE: What is the difference between Pulsamatic, Multimatic, Unimatic, and Super Duty
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Post# 20042-7/18/2002-12:51 ||| herr-miele (UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire WM11 (multimatic)
MESSAGE: Hi
I would recommend your interesting article about Frigidaire autos to Chris and Jamie, it is post #90 in the archive section - click archives at the top of the message page than select 0-1999, let it load a while and scroll down, post #90 is easy to spot, it is long.
A question for Robert about the article - you say Frigidaire produced a TL drycleaner using the unimatic mechanism, how did this work? Wouldn't fume leakage be a major problem or did the lid seal really well? I guess clothes had to be transferred to a separate dry tumbler after the clean cycle.
Richtoo
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Post# 20043-7/18/2002-13:41 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: what on earth is this? (I Agree.)
MESSAGE: It is no fun just to sit and watch it hum. My Uncle hates it when I watch a washing machine run. My Aunts washer Scares me to death when it changes cycles. It would make this earth shaking bang! I always ran with my hands over my ears. She had and still has a Montgomery Wards washer.
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Post# 20044-7/18/2002-14:15 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: I am confused.
MESSAGE: The actual mechanism (or transmission) is different mechanically to transmit power from the motor to the agitator/spin basket.
I'm sure someone can post links to the diagrams of each that are out there in someone's photo files...
-ph
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Post# 20045-7/18/2002-14:40 ||| frigemore (Chicago IL area)
SUBJECT: POD ?? Anyone know what model year it is??
MESSAGE: What a beauty. I never saw this model before, usually im not a big vintage Whirlpool fan.
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Post# 20046-7/18/2002-14:53 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: PeterH770 a question for you.
MESSAGE: Can you send me a full video of the washer you call WIA On High water setting normal cycle to agitatorjamie@aol.com. That is my favorite washing machine of all time.
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Post# 20047-7/18/2002-14:59 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire WM11 (Good memory!)
MESSAGE: For the 65-69 Rollermatics, the speed varied depending on what model you had;
4 Speed combination machines: 330 or 220 ppm, 300, 450 & 1010 rpm On machines with a "Special" cycle, spin was 675 rpm
2 Speed combination machines: 330 & 220 ppm, 710 & 465 rpm
1970-79 Rollermatic 2 speed machines 1-18: 360 & 240 ppm, 630/650 & 420/435 rpm
70-79 Three Speed machines: 360 & 240 & 180 ppm, 630/650 & 420/435 rpm
I don't find any mention of 710 rpm spin for the 1-18's, could that have been a commercial model with that speed?
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Post# 20048-7/18/2002-15:11 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD ?? Anyone know what model year it is??
MESSAGE: 1957 I believe. They also made a 24" version of the Imperial model (top of the line) that was called the "New Yorker." Isn't that fun? 57 was also the first year of the Whirlpool combo.
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Post# 20049-7/18/2002-15:31 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Correct Convention count?
MESSAGE: I will be going also, I will be there on Wednesday if anyone is coming early.
I am flying so I will be getting a shuttle from the airport .
Thanks for the info.
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Post# 20050-7/18/2002-15:51 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: WCIK Set
MESSAGE:
If someone could help me with finding a pump for a 66' CIK machine I would appreciate it. This was the same set my mom had when I was a child so I had to have it.
Maybe someone could give me an alternative until I find a new pump.
I found out that I could use a Frigidaire F/L pump although I am not sure I want to spend alot of money. Any ideas on how much an F/L pump might go for?
I will have pics at the Convention of them and my other prizes.
Cheers
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Post# 20051-7/18/2002-17:10 ||| gregm (Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Pulsator Washers (Frigidaire Pulsator (what kind?))
MESSAGE: Hi, thanks for your response, uummmm, I don't know what kind, hahahaha, I didn't know there were different kinds. As long as it has a pulsator agitator that goes up and down. Can you educate me on the different kinds? Thanks so much !! Greg :)
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Post# 20052-7/18/2002-17:14 ||| gregm (Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Pulsator Washers (The Hunt Is On...)
MESSAGE: Its nice to know I am certainly not the only old appliance buff out there. Thanks for the response and tips.
Sincerely, Greg
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Post# 20053-7/18/2002-17:28 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: PeterH770 a question for you.
MESSAGE: No I can't. I don't have a video camera to film it, and the WIA has been moved aside so that I can test and work on the 1972 Lady Kenmore for JasonL. Sorry!
-ph
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Post# 20054-7/18/2002-18:21 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: 7/18/2002 P-o-t-D (35 minutes of joy)
MESSAGE: Oh yeah............ A very nice view of a 1957 Whirlpool Imperial T/L.
Looks like us Whirlpool/Kenmore fans have seen our share of beauties over the years too, haven't we???
Again........ a 1957 Belt-Drive TOL Whirlpool Imperial in action. With a woman and two kids watching. A great sight for the eyes.
To me, the only one that can top that one would be to see a 1957 All Porcelain Lady Kenmore doing the same thing in action.
--Charles--
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Post# 20055-7/18/2002-18:23 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: 7/18/2002 P-o-t-D (To Jason.....)
MESSAGE: So, you got a 1972 Lady Kenmore???? If so, when did you get this beaut???? And how much work will she need before she is fully restored??
--Charles--
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Post# 20056-7/18/2002-18:31 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire WM11 (memory "
refresh"
)
MESSAGE: What was the point of offering the "Pulsamatic" mech in a Control tower model. Was this a lesser featured machine, with the "Unimatic" being the top-of-the line? I'm just a little bewildered about the overlap in mechanisms & models in the late 50's.
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Post# 20057-7/18/2002-18:36 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: PeterH770 a question for you.
MESSAGE: Jamie, making videos is very difficult process that takes a lot of time. But I don't know if you've seen these yet, these are videos of my WCI-58 Frigidaire washer. While it's not a 1/18, it is a Unimatic, I'm sure you find them fun. Click on the link below...
LINK: http://www.classicappliances.com/WCI-58.htm
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Post# 20058-7/18/2002-18:38 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire WM11 (memory )
MESSAGE: Hi Leslie, yes the Unimatics were the top of the line machines and the Pulsamatics were the middle and bottom of the line machines from 1955 thru 1958. In 1959 both were discontinued when the Multimatic was introduced.
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Post# 20059-7/18/2002-18:40 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Pulsator Washers (History of Frigidaire Washers)
MESSAGE: I think its time to post this story again for the new comers to read:
Hi everyone, I was recently asked what is the difference between the Unimatic and the other Frigidaire washers and I wanted to give an explanation for those who might not know.
The Unimatic transmission was designed and built by a Frigidaire engineer named Kenneth O'Sissen back in the late 1930's. Kenneth, who was hired by Frigidaire after working at Bendix where he invented the incrementing timer for their bolt-down washer and Kenneth’s basic timer design is still used today in some washers and dishwashers. His Unimatic, (Uni. meaning one and Matic short for automatic) consisted of a pulsator crankshaft & spin cage/brake assembly type transmission located on the top, a motor mounted in the middle and a water pump mounted underneath the motor. It was one complete direct drive unit without any clutches, drive belts or pulleys. The motor ran at 1140rpm, the gearing ratio in the pulsator part of the mechanism made the agitator go up and down in a 1 7/8” stroke at 330 pulses per minute. Since there was no gearing in the spin section of the mechanism, the tub spun at the same rate as the motor -- 1140rpm, which made for incredibly dry clothes. Because of the war effort it wasn’t until 1947 that Frigidaire introduced this mechanism in its very first washer, model WJ-60. Unimatic washers for domestic use were continued to be produced through 1958.
In 1955 Frigidaire engineers experimented with a belt-drive mechanism and introduced the Pulsa-Matic mechanism on its lower end washer model WV-35. The Pulsa-Matic agitated up and down at a very rapid 630ppm and also spun the tub at 630rpm, which was the slowest spinning full-size washer GM Frigidaire ever produced. Because of the rapid agitation with the Pulsa-Matic, Frigidaire shortened the length of the stroke of the agitation from 1 7/8" to 3/4". This change in agitation stroke and pulse rate did reduce the rate of turnover of the clothes which made for less tangling, but did not clean anywhere near as well as the Unimatic’s agitation. For this reason the Pulsa-Matic only lasted 4 years as they continued to market it in '56, '57 and '58. These models (WV-35, WS-56, WD-56, WS-57, WD-57, WS-58, WD-58 and WDP-58) are now some of the rarest of the Frigidaire washers and I only know of one collector that has one of these Pulsa-Matic washers.
The only major design of the Unimatic washers outside of the normal yearly changes in the cabinet and control panels was the introduction of the 3-Ring Agitator in 1956, with a neoprene rubber, gray colored cap, lint-chaser ring and circulator ring. The same colors were used in ’57 and a bleach cup was added. In ’58 Frigidaire’s advertising firm suggested that they color the rings (sort of like they did in the ’57 magazine ad’s), so the cap became turquoise, the lint chaser ring became yellow and the circulator became a coral color.
In 1959 Frigidaire introduced their first coin-operated washer (model WCOZ). The WCOZ used the Unimatic tranny and coin-op Unimatics were produced until 1964. Starting in 1965 Frigidaire introduced other coin-op machines with various mechanisms and continued to make them until the mid 70’s. About 1962 Frigidaire introduce their top-loading Dry-Cleaner, it too used the Unimatic mechanism and I'm not sure how long it was produced for (anyone out there know????).
For the new 1959 domestic washer line Frigidaire discontinued the Unimatic (for home use) and completely discontinued the Pulsa-Matic. They now introduced the Multi-Matic which was nothing more than a very advanced version of the Pulsa-Matic. It consisted of two drive belts (one for agitate and one for spin), a new two speed motor and a special clutch to shift drive power between the two belts. This arrangement produced Frigidaire's first multi-speed washer, allowing for 330ppm for normal wash speed or a 220ppm delicate speed as well as a 850rpm high spin speed and a 330rpm delicate spin speed. Because of the slower 330ppm Frigidaire was now able to return the agitator stroke back to a full 1.25" just like the old Unimatic. For the 1963 line Frigidaire introduced it's new 12lb capacity tub, but unfortunately for both the 1963 and 1964 line Frigidaire cheapened the clutch design of the Multi-Matic which dropped the high spin speed from 850 all the way down to 710.
In 1965 (actually it was the end of the year 1964) Frigidaire introduced the Roller-Matic mechanism. This was now a belt-less mechanism again with rollers of different sizes to drive the transmission. They also brought back the high speed spin of 1010rpm (not quite as fast as the 1140 of the Unimatic, but still very impressive). The Imperial and Custom Imperial washers had this 1010 “Rapidry spin” as well as a 650 mid level spin and a 330 low speed spin. Agitation speeds remained at 330 normal or 220 delicate speeds. In '65 they also introduced the "Deep Action Agitator" which was also referred to as "Jet-Action". They had been experimenting with this 3-cone agitator since 1962 when they stated placing it in their coin-op machines, but for some reason waited until '65 to introduce it into the domestic line.
The 1970 line brought some very big changes. They introduced the new 1-18 washer with big 18lb perforated tub and the Jet-Cone agitator. The normal agitation speed was brought up from 330ppm to 360ppm and the spin speed was lowered from 1010 to about 660. They day's of the high speed spin were now over, even though its 660 was still the fastest spin available through the 1970's.
Of course in 1980 GM sold off Frigidaire it will never be the same :( . For a few years they kept the same general look of the cabinet and control panel of the 1-18 but inside was a 1970's design Westinghouse Top-Loading washer, one of the worst top-loader washer designs ever. It was a very dark-day in applianceville. The first time I saw this new Frigidaire after catching my breath, I nearly cried. I don’t need to describe to anyone out there in applianceville what WCI is producing now as a top-loader.
If anyone has any additions to add this piece of history, that would be really great!
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Post# 20060-7/18/2002-18:47 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire WM11 (Hello Chuck)
MESSAGE: Hi Rich,
I'm sorry but I don't know much about the Frigidaire Rapid-Drycleaner as it was called. I have never seen one in person, nor have I even seen a picture or Tech-Talk manual of one. I only know this through other collectors who have seen this machine before in person. I do know it had a window lid and the dryer was sort of mount on top of it off to the side. I think our member named "Laundromat" might be able to give us more information about the Frigidaire Rapid-Drycleaner, Chuck are you out there in Applianceland?
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Post# 20061-7/18/2002-20:18 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: 7/18/2002 P-o-t-D (POD!)
MESSAGE: I love it - Jon has this same washer in the Museum so we can all see it during the convention. But I think he said it needs fixing.
Peter
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Post# 20062-7/18/2002-20:21 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: POD ?? Anyone know what model year it is?? (POD!)
MESSAGE: The Whirlpool in the POD is a 1955 model
Peter
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Post# 20063-7/18/2002-20:23 ||| laundromat (florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire WM11 (FRIGIDAIRE RAPIDRYCLEANER)
MESSAGE: Hi Uni.The Rapidrycleaner as it was called was a Unimatic with an interesting tub that was mostly solid but also had a type of filter/screanto recirculate the fluid and filter it out.the washer(always in turquoise)was at the base of the unit and the dryer was mounted above directly to the left wall of the unit.All the ones I saw were set up with 2 washers and 2 dryers.I believe they came that way because in the back of them,the complex machinery that filtered and cooled the fluids was centered to make changing the filters easy.So the waqshers were next to each other side by side with a locking lid that had a round window on it and to eather side about a foot above the top of the washers were the condenser dryers that would do no more than evaporate the fluid back to the tank and freshen the horrible fume smell the clothes had coming out of the washer.Both the washer and dryer had key locks to open and were not to be used unatended.It was rare to find a place that had an attendant friendly enough to let me come back and watch but as determend as I was and able to use my innocent ,sad,face to convince the attendants(mostly women)I wouldn't try to touch anything and I promised I'd "run along" after the final spin ended and take my "Varoom" bike with me,they'd give in and I would be at my best behavior sure not to ruin my welcome.It was quite a whirl and if the fumes didn't gag me or get me high,I'd stay for a few more cycles.The cost?$2/8 lb dry load.the machine took 8 quarters.the wash was 12 minutes,the spin was 6 minutes and the dry cycle averaged 20 minutes.sometimes,the atendant would reset the dry for another 10 minutes if the load was full or the fabric was heavy like wool or tweed.
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Post# 20064-7/18/2002-20:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: WCIK Set
MESSAGE: Hi Bruce -
What parts of the orginal machine's pump do you need?
You could use a separate electric pump - a newer style GE washer pump will work, it will need to be jumped into the motor wiring so that it runs whenever the motor is running.
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Post# 20065-7/18/2002-20:39 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD ?? Anyone know what model year it is?? (1956)
MESSAGE: I looked it up in the Whirlpool books and we were both wrong! It's a 1956.
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Post# 20066-7/18/2002-20:39 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Correct Convention count?
MESSAGE: Bruce, YAY, another new member I'll get to meet that I've chatted with.
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Post# 20067-7/18/2002-20:45 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD ?? Anyone know what model year it is?? (1956)
MESSAGE: That's right, because I think 1957 saw the introduction of the waterfall filter and notice this machine doesn't have the filter.
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Post# 20068-7/18/2002-20:47 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire WM11 (later multimatic spin speeds?)
MESSAGE: Robert, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't GM drop the top spin speed of Multimatics from 850 rpms to 700 something in either the 1961 or 1962 year model? I vaguely remember you mentioning something about that at one time and I also vaguely remember the raction internally that I'd only want a 1959 or 1960 multimatic because later models had a slower spin speed of < 850 rpm.
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Post# 20069-7/18/2002-21:05 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: POD ?? Anyone know what model year it is?? (POD!)
MESSAGE: I did see it in a 1954 magazine ad and it was being introduced for 1955 and I had saw it on Ebay a few times as a 1955
Peter
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Post# 20070-7/18/2002-21:32 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: POD ?? Anyone know what model year it is?? (POD!)
MESSAGE: I just picked this off ebay
I hope this attachment works
It's the same washer as POD
Peter
LINK: http://cgi.aol.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2039331599
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Post# 20071-7/18/2002-21:34 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: POD ?? Anyone know what model year it is?? (POD!)
MESSAGE: I just picked this off ebay
I hope this attachment works
It's the same washer as POD
Peter
LINK: http://cgi.aol.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2039331599
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Post# 20072-7/18/2002-21:48 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: POD ?? Anyone know what model year it is?? (1957 Whirlpool )
MESSAGE: Sorry for the double post
I will try to post the 1957
LINK: http://cgi.aol.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2122527679
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Post# 20073-7/18/2002-22:31 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD ?? Anyone know what model year it is?? (1957 Whirlpool )
MESSAGE: So the POD machine is a 56, different from both ebay ads. Beautiful designs one and all.
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Post# 20074-7/18/2002-01:35 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD ?? Anyone know what model year it is?? (1957 Whirlpool )
MESSAGE: See, I was right. 1957 was the year the waterfall filter came out. in 1958, we saw the advent of the wash'n'wear cycle.
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Post# 20075-7/19/2002-05:36 ||| gregm (Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Pulsator Washers (History of Frigidaire Washers)
MESSAGE: Thanks alot for the history lesson, it was indeed very interesting to me, how did you ever find this stuff out? Oh, and I couldn't agree more that when GM sold or stopped making Frigidaire, well, so much for that brand name and its reputation. To bad they wouldn't make a comeback.
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Post# 20076-7/19/2002-06:47 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: POD Gizmo's washer
MESSAGE: That's a cool semi-auto washer. Must be fun to play with even if you have to fill the water manually.
Does the pump constantly run on those machine? So you could run water into it and do an overflow rinse? That would be awesome.
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Post# 20077-7/19/2002-07:39 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Gizmo's washer
MESSAGE: Hi Jason.
Yes, it is fun. I did my first load of washing in it today.
It does pump continuously, so I did do an overflow rinse.
Here's my sequence of events:
Fill the washer with hot water. (my hot water isn't that hot)
Add detergent and agitate a bit to dissolve. Whoa! Suds galore!
Add a load of whites. Wash about five minutes. Leave to soak ten minutes. Wash a couple more minutes, then turn on cold tap to overflow rinse a couple of minutes.
Close suds save ball over hose outlet.
spin water out into machine's outer tub. Remove spun clothes.
place hose outlet into washer opening, remove ball from hose outlet, set knob to pulsate. Water is returned to wash tub, as pulsator is going, it splashes water everywhere! This washer was made in the days of a "wash house" out in the back yard, with a bare concrete floor and obviously water on the floor wasn't a concern.
Add a load of coloured clothes for second wash. Wash as for whites, then suds save again.
Return water again, add a tiny bit more detergent. Wash a load of dirty muddy building clothes.
Spin out load allowing water to empty into sink.
Repeat the whole exercise for rinsing, including an overflow rinse for each load. I cut back to two loads for the rinsing, which wasn't a good idea. The wash action was much slower, and I ended up with lots of lint on the clothes.
Results: Lots and lots of fun. Very vigorous wash action. Very quiet machine when washing, just a motor hum and splashing from the wash tub.
On spin, machine accelerates very fast to high speed. You can really hear the water hitting the outer tub. Even after some minutes spinning, you can hear more water spraying onto the outer tub. As the outer tub is the cabinet of the machine, you can hear it all happening. When the spin stops and the tub coasts to a rest, the last sound is a squawk from the spin brake for a second or two. It is the same sound my mother's old Frigidaire auto made, I had completely forgotten about that sound.
The spin was nothing special, the clothe seemed dry enough but the basket full of washing was very heavy. I spun hte whole three loads out in the Fisher and Paykel (they fitted into one load) and it extracted an extra 1.8 litres of water(!) after one minute at 1000rpm.
Chris.
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Post# 20078-7/19/2002-07:49 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Pulsator Washers (History of Frigidaire Washers)
MESSAGE: Hi Robert, that is fascinating.
Could either you or another clever person please post a picture or diagram of the multimatic transmission layout? I'd like to see how the two belt system works.
Does anybody in Applianceville own a Multimatic?
Thanks.
Chris.
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Post# 20079-7/19/2002-08:17 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: 7/18/2002 P-o-t-D (To Jason, From Peter)
MESSAGE: I have the 72 LK. Jason is going to come get her soon. I have a new leveling leg on order, so that should be fixed by departure time. She also needs a new dispenser top and the timer needs a touch of work, but she is in wonderful shape with a fairly new transmission and pump.
-ph
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/lst?.dir=/1972+Lady+Kenmore&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/
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Post# 20080-7/19/2002-09:32 ||| calypso bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Pulsator Washers (History of Frigidaire Washers)
MESSAGE: I have a 60' Custom Deluxe Multi-matic. I have had it since Feb. this year. It runs beutifully and is extremely quiet for a Frigidaire. It is a 1 speed agitate with 2 spin speeds depending on cycle chosen. I have not had to do anything to it yet except I just got a new console with the light and the suround peices from my friend John who was parting out the same exact machine.
I would post a pic but I am not sure how to do that yet.
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Post# 20081-7/19/2002-09:39 ||| calypso bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: WCIK Set
MESSAGE: Hi Greg,
I believe I need the whole unit for this machine.
I thought maybe if it would work I would take the pump off my 68' Rapidry and wait for another to surface at some point that way I could use the machine.
Thanks.
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Post# 20082-7/19/2002-09:42 ||| calypso bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire WM11 (later multimatic spin speeds?)
MESSAGE: I was told that the spin speed on my 60' Custom Deluxe is about 710 rpm maybe a little higher ?
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Post# 20083-7/19/2002-10:24 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire WM11 (FRIGIDAIRE RAPIDRYCLEANER)
MESSAGE: Thanks Chuck, I knew you would know :)
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Post# 20084-7/19/2002-10:25 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire WM11 (later multimatic spin speeds?)
MESSAGE: Oh you're right Bob, I made a mistake the line that say:
1963-1964 Multimatic 330ppm or 220 ppm & 850rpm and 330rpm
should read:
1963-1964 Multimatic 330ppm or 220 ppm & 710rpm and 330rpm,
Also the lower end machine in the Multimatic lines from 1959-1964 all spun at 710rpm. Only the Imperial and Custom Imperials spun at 850rpm.
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Post# 20085-7/19/2002-10:27 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD ?? Anyone know what model year it is?? (1957 Whirlpool )
MESSAGE: Yes, yesterday's POD was definately a 1956 model. Whirlpool only made that particular style for one year. Sure was a neat looking machine.
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Post# 20086-7/19/2002-10:28 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Pulsator Washers (History of Frigidaire Washers)
MESSAGE: how did you ever find this stuff out
Oh years and years of reading about this stuff, I retain some of the information, some of it gets blurry, but it all comes back from time to time.
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Post# 20087-7/19/2002-10:31 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Gizmo's washer
MESSAGE: Wow Chris, that's a lot of work for a few loads of laundry. I have the same rubber ball on the end of the drain hoses of my '58 Frigidaire's but I have never saved the wash water.
Hey here is an idea, if you could get a hold of a 1957 or 1958 pulsamatic timer (you can easily get them at MTS) and a water valve you could mount the timer and valve in hidden in the back of the machine and easily turn it into an automatic washer.
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Post# 20088-7/19/2002-14:19 ||| gregm (Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Pulsator Washers (1960 Multi-matic from Boston)
MESSAGE: Hi - "Calypso Bruce" would LOVE to see a pic of your washer, even better would love to see it in person if you ever entertain that idea. I live just outside of Worcester. Regards.......Greg
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Post# 20089-7/19/2002-14:23 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Correct Convention count? (internet bookings)
MESSAGE: I booked all the flights for my holiday and made reservations for a room in the College Park hotel YAY! Besides going to the convention I'm going to see a LOT of the US. It's going to be great again! So looking forward to seeing you all!
Louis
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Post# 20090-7/19/2002-14:23 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: 7/18/2002 P-o-t-D (To Jason, From Peter)
MESSAGE: Does the timer advance or does it just need a "nudge" when I push it in at the start of cycle? If so, that's just fine with me. That could be bent contacts or something.
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Post# 20091-7/19/2002-14:28 ||| GregM (Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: "Appliance Graveyards"
MESSAGE: I am a recently new member of applianceville and have downloaded and enjoyed some of the old video commercials. One of them (not a commercial) is of a few guys checking out old abandon appliances on approx. 8 acres of land in I believe So. Dakota. Now, this was five years ago, Does this place still exist?? Are there places like that in New England? I heard that alot of old appliances were dumped somewhere in St. Albains, VT? Any assistance is appreciated, best regards :)
GregM from MAss
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Post# 20092-7/19/2002-14:54 ||| GregM (Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: A funny Frigidaire story
MESSAGE: My mom like I am sure many had a '55 or '56 Frigidaire washer in the kitchen and no dryer. It was placed in a cutout next to the kitchen sink where it would drain. Well, if a load was slightly unbalanced the thing would literally "vibrate/walk across the kitchen floor". She even had it bolted through the kitchen floor to a 2 by 4 in the basement and it still worked loose. It was later put and used in the basement. That wonderful machine worked almost daily for 13 yrs before my mom replaced it with a 1969 Maytag (which lasted 22 yrs). My mom took such meticulous care of her appliances never, ever using abrasive cleaners or setting anything on them that would scratch, nick or puck them. God, I wish we had kept them, I am sure the only thing they needed were parts because the exteriors were mint. At least I have the first Hotpoint seafoam green kitchen stove they bought in 1956. Literally looks brand new and works perfectly (except the clock is sounding a bit noisy??). Thanks for reading..............
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Post# 20093-7/19/2002-15:19 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: "Appliance Graveyards"
MESSAGE: Greetings, GregM, and welcome. It's great to see the enthusiasm of a new member.
It is my understanding that much of the Aberdeen SD appliance farm was cleaned up and sent to the dreaded krusher within the last year. A couple guys made a trip there recently and pulled out the very last of the "good" vintage items that were left.
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Post# 20094-7/19/2002-15:45 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Correct Convention count? (internet bookings)
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, let's do correspond soon, as we'll be interested to hear of your various state visit plans!
QEOM
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Post# 20095-7/19/2002-21:29 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Correct Convention count? (internet bookings)
MESSAGE: Me too Luigi. Can't wait to see ya!!!!
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Post# 20096-7/19/2002-00:36 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Gizmo's washer
MESSAGE: Hi Robert.
That's a clever idea, but I don't think I'll bother. I don't mind all the fussing around, if I'm in a hurry I'll just use the Asko. I probably won't wait till there's three loads though.
Ther control knob on top isn't connected directly to the switch - the switch is down underneath, there is a rod which connects the knob on top to the switch underneath. It can only rotate about 90 degrees total, so it couldn't do a full rotation as an automatic timer would need. In the photo called "old label" you can see where the rod connects through the side into the switch in the base.
Chris.
LINK: http://uk.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gizmo_au63/vwp?.dir=/Frigidaire+WM11&.src=ph&.dnm=old+label.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//uk.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gizmo_au63/lst%3f%26.dir=/Frigidaire%2bWM11%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 20097-7/20/2002-10:08 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: POD 7/20/2002 Norge 14
MESSAGE: OK, I'm thoroughly ocnfused. This "looks" almost exactly like my 12/64 Norge 15, but my machine had the rear mounted filter pan. This has an agitator mounted filter--was this burp-up or a "filter-flo" type of arrangement. When was this machine on the market. I think my machine came a bit later.
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Post# 20098-7/20/2002-10:14 ||| GregM (Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: "Appliance Graveyards" (Appliance Graveyard gone :()
MESSAGE: "OUCH" that hurts, what a shame......thanks for the update and feedback, I appreciate it !! -G
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Post# 20099-7/20/2002-10:27 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 7/20/2002 Norge 14
MESSAGE: Hey Bob, I think it was a "filter flo" type of arrangement. If you look at the picture, you can see the recirculating water. Aunt Josie had this machine and I remember it was around 1962-63 when she got it. I must confess though that I never saw it operate. If there was one relative who was very vocal about how she viewed my interest as "unnatural" it was her. So that machine was "off limits" as far as my mother was concerned. The payoff for me was that the machine lasted a very short time (less than 5 years) and was constantly broken. Poetic justice!!!
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Post# 20100-7/20/2002-10:36 ||| GregM (Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: old TOP-loading dishwashers
MESSAGE: Any hints or suggestions at finding these?? regards, Greg
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Post# 20101-7/20/2002-11:02 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: old TOP-loading dishwashers ('OLD' TOP LOADING DISHWASHERS)
MESSAGE: There's a '61 Mobile Maid here as well as a '59 Westinghouse roll out top loading dishwasher in yellow here in my collection, in case either of these machines would be your dream machine, they could possibly have your name on 'em.
Also, Yesterday, John Lefever, Tom Stiyer and I took out an all original, cadet blue 1955 GE electric kitchen, complete with wall hung refrigerator, under counter combo, and roll out diswasher! Here's a couple of photo's. Sorry, none of the wall hung refrig...
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/55COMBO/INDEX.htm
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Post# 20102-7/20/2002-11:45 ||| frigemore (Chicago IL area)
SUBJECT: Jason more Convention Information
MESSAGE: As you know I will be there on Saturday only. I may have someone with me from Ca. from the chatroom. Ross
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Post# 20103-7/20/2002-11:51 ||| jgp57 (dearborn michigan)
SUBJECT: hello
MESSAGE: hello to everyone.jgp57
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Post# 20104-7/20/2002-12:01 ||| GregM (Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: old TOP-loading dishwashers (thanks)
MESSAGE: Bob, I sent you an e-mail, I am interested and I appreciate your reply!! , thanks for the link showing the pics of the ' 55 GE kitchen, which has aroused my curiousity as well; Is that fixable?? Best regards, Greg
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Post# 20105-7/20/2002-12:53 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Sounds strange.
MESSAGE: What is a "Burp-up" Filter? Is it when the water comes through the top of the agitator, like the Norge in the Norge wing?
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Post# 20106-7/20/2002-14:05 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: old TOP-loading dishwashers ('OLD' TOP LOADING DISHWASHERS)
MESSAGE: What an awesome kitchen! Under the grime there is a real classic complete kitchen! What is the destination? Does it go to the museum?
Louis
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Post# 20107-7/20/2002-14:31 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: 1955 GE Kitchen in D.C.
MESSAGE: Hi Bob and thanks for posting the pictures of the kitchen removal. John had told me about this right after they got the call on it. What a neat color - and an interesting find. 1955 was the first year of the GE combo washer-dryer so that will also be a fun machine to get running again. I'm surprised that that the whole kitchen is still intact - usually you see the dishwasher replaced by now.
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Post# 20108-7/20/2002-14:36 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Sounds strange.
MESSAGE: Exactly right - the Norge washers used a pumping mechanism in the agitator to draw water in from the bottom in one direction and pumped it out into the filter in the other direction of the agitator stroke. For a brief time in the 60's, they used a constant recirculated stream as in the POD, but then went back to the pumping, or "burp-up" agitator again and kept that style through the rest of their production lines until the 1980's when they were bought by Maytag. Hotpoint also used a burp-up filter in their mid to late 60's and early 70's machines as well. They are very fun to watch, but as with most lint filters, only marginally effective at removing much lint.
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Post# 20109-7/20/2002-15:20 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: old TOP-loading dishwashers ('OLD' TOP LOADING DISHWASHERS)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the pictures! Tom was telling me about this GE set.
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Post# 20110-7/20/2002-15:20 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: hello
MESSAGE: Hi jgp57! Long time no see, how are you??
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Post# 20111-7/20/2002-18:11 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: old TOP-loading dishwashers (55 GE KITCHEN IN CADET BLUE)
MESSAGE: You bet it's fixable, but only by Experts such as John and Tom. If you asked just about any ordinary appliance repair shop, 99 &44/100 % of them would tell you of course it's not fixable and to throw it away immediately. So, of course, in life it's all who you know. I expect in time the 55 GE Cadet Blue kitchen will be completely restored both cosmetically and functionally. And, YES, it's going to John Lefever's Beltsville Appliance Museum & warehouse so you all will be able to have a look for youselves in about a months time.
BEST REGARDS.
BOB
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/55COMBO/INDEX.htm
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Post# 20112-7/20/2002-18:21 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: old TOP-loading dishwashers (All in 1 kitchen!)
MESSAGE: Bob this is a real great 1 piece unit. Is this going to the museum?
Peter
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Post# 20113-7/20/2002-18:36 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: old TOP-loading dishwashers (Finding Old Machines)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg, we get asked that question alot about how does on go about finding vintage washers, dryers and dishwashers.
Vintage automatic washing machines as well as dishwashers are extremely rare in the 21st century. While I have found over 40 of them, its taken me over seven years to do this and I’m constantly looking. I spend at least 4 to 6 hours every week searching for these vintage machines and then countless more hours searching for parts and restoring these wonderful rare machines. There is no place in the world that we have found that sells these machines in restored condition, and even finding places that sells these machines as-is, is a one-in-a-million shot.
Since you live in near Boston, your chances of finding some vintage automatics are relatively high. Over the past six years I have found that the best locations to find truly vintage machines are older mid-sized cities and suburbs with basements. Back in the 50’s and 60’s when families purchased a new automatic washer to replace an older, original model, many times the stores did not remove the old machine for free, with delivery of a new machine. So many thrifty people opted to just push the old machine to a corner of the basement, then 40 years later I find them at the estate sales.
Here’s what I would suggest to you:
1. Make up some cards saying you are a collector of vintage automatic washers and go around to all the mom-and-pop appliance retail and service places you can find give them this card. Explain to them what you are doing, and that it’s a hobby. You’ll have to tell them that you’ll give them $100 or so for any vintage automatic washer they find for you, because if you don’t give them a good reason to look, they won’t. Believe me they wont. You’ll need to concentrate your efforts in the older cities and suburbs, and don’t bother with the newer suburban towns that are further out.
2. Next find all the local appliance-recyclers in your general area and do the same thing. The recylers are by far the best places to find vintage machines.
3. Go to the estate sales every Saturday. They should be listed in your local newspapers classified section. Estate sales are not the same as garage sales and they are usually listed separately, the main difference is at Estate Sales, the entire house is opened up and most everything is for sale.
4. Finally you need a little bit of luck. One last thought though, you have to be prepared to do the mechanical work yourself, because no one will do this for you anywhere. Most service people have no knowledge of how to work on appliances this old and do not have any desire to learn, for any price. But one thing to remember, is that servicing these machines isn’t very hard, all you need is the proper instructions and you be shocked at how easy it is to do this. We’ll be able to help you along the way, you’ve come to the right place.
Good luck on in your search.
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Post# 20114-7/20/2002-18:37 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: old TOP-loading dishwashers ('OLD' TOP LOADING DISHWASHERS)
MESSAGE: Greg Find Bob! That blue GE combo looks wonderful as well as the roll out dishwasher.
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Post# 20115-7/20/2002-19:47 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 7/20/2002 Norge 14
MESSAGE: Well Anthony, I wonder what Aunt Josie thinks about you today, still "unnatural"? Well, our Norge didn't last all that long either. From 12/64 to January of 1969 or 1970, when the Kenmore 800 arrived in February. Now, I "helped" that machine's demise somewhat. In that span of time, it was also out of hte house for 3-4 weeks for a major repair too, but I don't remember what was wrong.
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Post# 20116-7/20/2002-19:55 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: old TOP-loading dishwashers ('OLD' TOP LOADING DISHWASHERS)
MESSAGE: Bob, incredible find. Would have loved to have seen the inside of the DW. And better pics of w/d controls. Hopefully I'll see this when I'm in Beltsville. Glad Tom is doing well. I miss him a lot. And the Fab 4 are STILL FAB. Loved the music. Outstanding choice.
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Post# 20117-7/20/2002-19:58 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Sounds strange.
MESSAGE: You are correct in you guess again Jamie. I'm proud of you!!! That's what a burp-up filter from the Norge family was.
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Post# 20118-7/20/2002-20:13 ||| GregM (Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: old TOP-loading dishwashers ('OLD' TOP LOADING DISHWASHERS)
MESSAGE: Its for me to cherish and polish and showoff and create a fabulous 50's kitchen someday.
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Post# 20119-7/20/2002-20:32 ||| GregM (Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: old TOP-loading dishwashers (Finding Old Machines)
MESSAGE: You have given me new hope !!! :) Thanks very much for the helpful advice. I very much appreciate it and look forward to sharing pics, etc. of my future findings. Best regards -G
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Post# 20120-7/20/2002-21:53 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Fun Day with Don
MESSAGE: I had the pleasure of meeting a local member, Don (Jetaction) today. We had a very nice day doing a little laundry and estate saleing. Don found a couple nifty vintage small appliances, and I a vintage box of LaFrance Bluing. Nothing too unusual in the appliance arena; a Maytag wringer and a t/l KitchenAid portable dishwasher were as close as we came to that, but as always it was fun.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/happyhotpoint/vwp?.dir=/House&.src=ph&.dnm=Don+(Jet+Action).jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/happyhotpoint/lst%3f%26.dir=/House%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 20121-7/20/2002-22:12 ||| GregM (Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Fun Day with Don (Hi Scott)
MESSAGE: Hi Scott, Hey can you give me more details on the t/l Kitchen Aid dishwasher you said you saw with Don, was it yesterday?? Thanks alot :) GregM
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Post# 20122-7/20/2002-22:20 ||| GregM (Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: Convention
MESSAGE: Tell me more!! What is it? Where? When? Who coordinates, if anyone? Is it to late to attend? Thanks, -G
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Post# 20123-7/20/2002-22:39 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: old TOP-loading dishwashers (neat kitchen)
MESSAGE: Thanks for sharing the neat pictures and music Bob. That is some kitchen set up. How much do you think a set like that would have cost back then? Did this unit come apart any place, if not it must have been hard to move.
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Post# 20124-7/20/2002-22:49 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: old TOP-loading dishwashers (Awesome unit)
MESSAGE: I bet that is quality heavy gauge stainless across that entire top, not like what they put out today. Very cool, am anxious to see it "cleaned up"
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Post# 20125-7/20/2002-23:01 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: 57 GE Dryer Makes A Comeback
MESSAGE: Last week, I spend a few hours restoring the 1957 GE dryer I found through a friend of mine a few months ago. Aside from a bad element and a lint-clogged fan, vacuuming and a thorough scrub down, there was very little work to be done on this dryer and it's now happily tumbling again. I've been using it in the garage for the last five days and am thrilled with it's performance, 25-30 minutes is the most I've needed for many loads that have been spun properly. The outside temp here has been over 95F everyday, so that helps performance a bit too. This GE is a very well built machine, nothing like it available today for sure. The only thing I don't care for is the nylon lint filter bag, it's messy and difficult to clean but other than that, I'm sold on GE dryers for 1957!
I should have put a dryer in the garage years ago! Here are a few pics of the GE.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/General+Electric&.src=ph&.dnm=1957+GE+Dryer.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/General%2bElectric%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 20126-7/20/2002-23:16 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention
MESSAGE: This year's convention is being held in Washington D.C. August 16-18. Most of us going are flying into Baltimore (BWI) airport and staying at the Holiday Inn, in College Park, MD. If you book online with Holiday Inn, you might still be able to get a better rate than by phone. You should email Jason at surgilator_68@yahoo.com to get your name in, transportation plans, etc.
There were several posts here, but I don't have their numbers. These can give you a better idea of the weekend activities and other information - does anyone know these??
LINK: surgilator_68@yahoo.com
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Post# 20127-7/20/2002-23:21 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention (Hotel Link)
MESSAGE: Here is a link to the College Park, MD Holiday Inn.
LINK: http://www.sixcontinentshotels.com/holiday-inn?_franchisee=WASCB
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Post# 20128-7/21/2002-02:39 ||| MrCoffee (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: RE: old TOP-loading dishwashers ('OLD' TOP LOADING DISHWASHERS)
MESSAGE: Actually, I would not mind having one of those myself!
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Post# 20129-7/21/2002-07:38 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Swimwear anyone?
MESSAGE: Go swimming in the tide for a good cause...
-ph
LINK: http://www.tide.com/specialoffers/
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Post# 20130-7/21/2002-07:42 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: 7/18/2002 P-o-t-D (just a nudge)
MESSAGE: It's just a nudge. When it starts filling, I just push the timer to the next mark (12 minutes on the Normal cycle is more than plenty wash time for me in a Kenmore) and the machine takes right off.
-ph
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Post# 20131-7/21/2002-07:50 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: 57 GE Dryer Makes A Comeback
MESSAGE: Very cool dryer, love the pink control dial.
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Post# 20132-7/21/2002-08:00 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: 57 GE Dryer Makes A Comeback (a keeper?)
MESSAGE: SO of the 2 sunny yellow dryers, this one is the keeper? I've always thought GE made excellent dryers. The two I had were outstanding.
-ph
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Post# 20133-7/21/2002-08:09 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention (Hotel Link)
MESSAGE: Thanks!!
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Post# 20134-7/21/2002-08:12 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Swimwear anyone?
MESSAGE: thats cool, hey I would wear swimwear that said "BOLD" (grin)
Somebody else must remember this detergent.
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Post# 20135-7/21/2002-08:14 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 7/20/2002 Norge 14
MESSAGE: Of course she still thinks of it as unnatural for a lot of reasons....
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Post# 20136-7/21/2002-08:21 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: 57 GE Dryer Makes A Comeback (a keeper?)
MESSAGE: What a great machine!!! You know, in terms of overall value, I always thought GE made a great appliance - that is of course the OLD GE..... I cannot wait to get my 1961 GE dryer out of storage. And now I am sorry that I let that late 1970's "moose" GE dryer with the enormous drum and door get away. But it was just too big. So now I will hold out for the 1970's avocado Versatronic with panel lamp I saw at an open house. Damn these space limitations!!!!
Kind of makes up for the turquoise Frigidaire filtrator that I wouldn't spend $300 for on ebay..........
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Post# 20137-7/21/2002-09:23 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 57 GE Dryer Makes A Comeback (No more dryers!)
MESSAGE: Well, I can't keep all of these dryers. The Whirlpool needs new bearings, but is otherwise in a little better condition cosmetically than the GE. I really must make a descision before fall and winter come along - I have to get the garage cleaned out to get the van in! Maybe I should have a garage sale for the club, I have several machines that need homes...
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Post# 20138-7/21/2002-09:29 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 57 GE Dryer Makes A Comeback (a keeper?)
MESSAGE: That turquoise Filtrator is in the classified section of the our site now. I emailed the seller and he said there was someone who came to look at it, so hopefully it will go to a good home that will love it.
I saw one of those Versatronic dryers (in white) at a sale this last Spring, beautiful styling.
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Post# 20139-7/21/2002-10:45 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: 7/18/2002 P-o-t-D (sounds good!)
MESSAGE: Sounds like a winner to me. I'm a button pusher. I will switch cycles in mid-run just to watch it go slow speed, start a PP cooldown, etc. Of course most of the times I just let 'her go, sit back, eat my pizza and enjoy the 35 minutes of heaven.
I'll try to come and get it soon. :-)
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Post# 20140-7/21/2002-11:20 ||| frigemore (Chicago IL area)
SUBJECT: !957 GE Pair , Yes beautiful indeed
MESSAGE: I have never seen this model GE for 1957. The Pair I grew up with is exactly like Roberts in the Museum. They are beautiful indeed. GE and Frigidaire made some of the most beautiful appliances in the 50s and 60s. I have very fond memories of that pair Chrome gleaming and purring away in our basement. I do remember the washer as being somewhat service prone however, We must have had service there at least once a year fixing something on that washer. The Dryer was much less problematic. The pair was bought for my mother by my Grandmother as a gift just after I was borne. Shortly after they were delivered she passed away so the story goes. We had that set until we moved 14 years later.
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Post# 20141-7/21/2002-16:41 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Fun Day with Don (Hi Scott)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg, actually I messed up, it was a frontloading machine, but it was a portable by design (not a convertible). It had a handle in front and wood top, and the traditional KitchenAid door latch with the controls at the rear (like a washer). The racks were pretty much the traditional KitchenAid f/l style as well. I think I remember seeing these in stores in the early 70s or so. Scott
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Post# 20142-7/21/2002-22:25 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention (Greg, it's not too late, please come)
MESSAGE: Greg, Magic Clean was in the same boat just a year ago. He discovered the site 3 weeks before the convention and managed to attend with the rest of us!!!! Your presence would be most welcome.
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Post# 20143-7/22/2002-07:05 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: POD - The collector's Filter-Flo
MESSAGE: From the summer of love comes this beautiful GE washer. Now this is one of the finest examples of a GE washer I've seen yet, only second to the "timeline" model of the early 60s.
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Post# 20144-7/22/2002-09:35 ||| Rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: Old Washers and Dishwashers
MESSAGE: I just found this link. My name is Ross Roberts. I grew up with a Thor semi-automatic washing machine in the house. Since I was a little boy, I always like to watch washing machines working and also do laundry. I like in Palm Springs, California and would like to hear from other people with the same interest. I was also fascinated by dishwashers. My email address is.....nycaross@aol.com
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Post# 20145-7/22/2002-10:24 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Old Washers and Dishwashers (Welcome Rossroberts!)
MESSAGE: Hi Rossroberts, a big welcome to our club, we're glad you found us :).
99% of this club is made up with people who also enjoy a good wash cycle now and then. Out of sheer curiosity, I usually ask new members how they found us? Oh GregM I forgot to ask you that same question too, how did you guys find us on the net?
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Post# 20146-7/22/2002-11:39 ||| Noras (Rochester NY)
SUBJECT: Automatic Calrod
MESSAGE: Hello,
I recently bought a home built in the 1950's. In the basement is a General Electric pink electric stove which I believe is original to the house. It is in pristine condition and I'ld like to find out its value but don't know where to look. I have the model number but I can't seem to find an indication of what year it was built. I treasure my "Pink Cadillac". Can anyone direct me to a site or phone number that may help me with an appraisal? Thank you. Nora
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Post# 20147-7/22/2002-14:49 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Old Washers and Dishwashers (welcome)
MESSAGE: Hi Ross and welcome to the club. Check out the links to pictures and videos on the club - there's some very neat things to see.
I have only ever seen a Thor "Automagic" washer once, it was on display in a museum and of course, not running. Did your family have the dishwasher insert for yours? The link is to a photo album of some pictures that I took of the Thor washer last spring.
Enjoy the club - Greg
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/threeringagitator/vwp?.dir=/Scott%27s+Visit+to+Nebraska&.src=ph&.dnm=Finally+get+to+touch+a+Thor!.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/threeringagitator/lst%3f%26.dir=/Scott%2527s%2bVisit%2bto%2bNebraska%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 20148-7/22/2002-14:56 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Automatic Calrod
MESSAGE: Hi Nora -
We might be able to pinpoint the year of manufacture (by the model number) of your stove, but don't really have enough experience with ranges to even guess it's value for you. The attached link might be of help getting an estimate of value.
Are you using this range in your kitchen now or "preserving" it for posterity? There were many beautiful ranges in the 1950's and General Electric was at the peak of their creativity.
LINK: http://www.antiquestoves.com/
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Post# 20149-7/22/2002-18:12 ||| Rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Old Washers and Dishwashers (old washers and dishwashers)
MESSAGE: hi there.....in answer to your question as to how i found this link, i just decided to surf the net by entering "old washing machines" and i eventually came on to this link. it is wonderful and i am enjoying it very much.
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Post# 20150-7/22/2002-18:17 ||| Rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Old Washers and Dishwashers (Thor semi automatic washer)
MESSAGE: hi greg....yes, that is it!!!....that is the exact same crank handle that was on the thor semi automatic washer i grew up with...we did not have the dishwasher insert but i will tell you that the settings were for "wash", "spin", and "dishwasher"....with the washing machine, if you turned it on to dishwasher, the agitator would agitate while at the same time, the tub would spin....
are there any gatherings at displays of all these old washers?...i only have a condo here in southern california....but when i had a house in new york city, i had a big basement and could have collected appliances had i known it was possible....
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Post# 20151-7/22/2002-19:21 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Old Washers and Dishwashers (greetings)
MESSAGE: Hello Ross
Welcome to the club from another So Cal member! I am in Orange County. I'm in the same boat as you..."if ONLY I had a basement." But there are a few vintage machines that I would remodel my laundry room to fit in. I have a few albums of vintage advertisements and will post the link in case you or any of the other new memebers would like to browse through them. Hope you enjoy the club.
Rich
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/golittlesport
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Post# 20152-7/22/2002-20:17 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - The collector's Filter-Flo
MESSAGE: And I love that deep, dark coppertone color too!!!!
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Post# 20153-7/22/2002-20:18 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Old Washers and Dishwashers
MESSAGE: Welcome Ross. Glad to have another washer fanatic among us. There are a few other california members of the club too.
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Post# 20154-7/22/2002-20:20 ||| bendix5 (oregon)
SUBJECT: RE: Old Washers and Dishwashers
MESSAGE: Hi Ross, It is nice to see another from the west coast. You are in good hands here. These people are great!!!! I have learned so much from them all. Check out the member links and all of the photos. You will be surprised at the wonderful laundry machines owned in this club alone. Have fun!
Dan
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Post# 20155-7/22/2002-21:05 ||| bendix5 (oregon)
SUBJECT: RE: Old Washers and Dishwashers (vintage advertisments)
MESSAGE: Thanks so much for sharing those ad with us. I enjoyed them. I had not seen them before. I grew up in Whittier, CA where there were lots of Bendix, Westinghouse and Kenmores around to sneak a peek at. I think taking the sneak and looking without getting caught was part of the fun. I guess they all thought I was weird. I oversuds my aunts Bendix one time and she knew it was one of us kids because she always poured a glass of water down the soap chute to clean it. Of course she just poured in some StaPuff and the suds went away but we all got into trouble because of that prank.
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Post# 20156-7/22/2002-21:11 ||| rapidry1000 (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: RE: Old Washers and Dishwashers (California greetings from the SF Bay Area)
MESSAGE: Hi Ross
Welcome to the club. I'm one of two members from the SF Bay Area. You will learn alot and enjoying every minute.
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Post# 20157-7/22/2002-21:15 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention (Thank you)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the warm welcome. I am planning on coming down and am very excited, trying to make arrangements to stay with a friend right now and if I do not find this feasable then I will book my stay at the Holiday Inn this weekend.
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Post# 20158-7/22/2002-21:18 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Old Washers and Dishwashers
MESSAGE: Hey Ross, welcome, I have very much enjoyed this website since my brief beginning only a couple months ago. People have been very friendly and helpful with questions, etc.
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Post# 20159-7/22/2002-21:24 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Old Washers and Dishwashers (finding you)
MESSAGE: Robert, I just a new PC a few months ago and have been without a computer for at least 3 or 4 years. What got the ball rolling for me was my mom giving me her 1956 Hotpoint Stove and the floodgates opened to my desire to collect and restore. I said to myself the internet will somehow connect me with someone who shares my profound interest in vintage appliances. So i typed in to search for "antique appliances" and found you guys and am so thrilled. Plus I realize now that I am not the only one. :) .
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Post# 20160-7/22/2002-22:13 ||| Rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Old Washers and Dishwashers (old washers and dishwashers)
MESSAGE: hi rich....good to know that there are other members here in southern california....if you ever come to palm springs, my phone is 760 328 1154...and i would enjoy seeing your machines...just spoke to neighbor where i grew up.....she had early 1950's maytag automatic with red agitator....please keep in touch....ross
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Post# 20161-7/22/2002-22:14 ||| Rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Old Washers and Dishwashers
MESSAGE: hi appnut...it is great to have found this site...ross
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Post# 20162-7/22/2002-22:17 ||| Rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Old Washers and Dishwashers
MESSAGE: hi dan...nice to meet you too....i always used fabric softener to kill excess suds in front loaders....when i was a kid, rather than play with other kids, i would rather hang over a washer and watch it at work...i loved hanging out in laundromats....i have 5 year old maytag washer and dryer....please keep in touch...ross
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Post# 20163-7/22/2002-22:18 ||| Rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Old Washers and Dishwashers (California greetings from the SF Bay Area)
MESSAGE: hi there....and if you ever come to palm springs, please feel free to call me.....ross
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Post# 20164-7/22/2002-22:19 ||| Rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Old Washers and Dishwashers (California greetings from the SF Bay Area)
MESSAGE: hi there....and if you ever come to palm springs, please feel free to call me.....we can share laundry room experiences...760 328 1154.....ross
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Post# 20165-7/22/2002-22:24 ||| Rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Old Washers and Dishwashers (finding you)
MESSAGE: hi greg...back in worcester, i am sure you have a nice big basement to collect appliances....back in new york city, i had a big basement in my house....but i moved to palm springs california 5 years ago and basements are unheard of in southern california...living in a condo, i am lucky to fit in my full size maytag washer and dryer in a corner of the garage...i own 4 small residential buildings....the first two came with coin operated laundry rooms and shortly after purchasing the buildings, i bought coin operated kenmores...the 3rd building i bought has no laundry facilities but tenants have key to laundry room in building i own 2 doors away....the 4th building i bought this past february.....it took 3 months to get building permit but laundry room constructed and this time, i purchased new coin operated maytags...my tenants are thrilled...
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Post# 20166-7/22/2002-22:26 ||| Rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Old Washers and Dishwashers (finding you)
MESSAGE: in response to you, yes, it is good to know that there are other people out there with the same interest in old washers...i also remember going to sears when i was a kid....they would always have one machine connected for demonstrations.....i would enjoy watching the demonstrations....ross
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Post# 20167-7/22/2002-22:28 ||| Rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: museum and conventions
MESSAGE: i would also like to know if there are any museums where one can see old washers, dishwashers, dryers, and other appliances and also if they are just displays or if they actually work....does this group ever get together to share stories??
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Post# 20168-7/22/2002-22:49 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - The collector's Filter-Flo
MESSAGE: Actually, the coppertone seems to fit that washer. I wouldn't think it would be as beautiful in avocado. I know that sounds weird coming from me because I'm an avocado fan but I'd say Lady Kenmore's look the best in avocado. A coppertone Lady K wouldn't do anything for me though. A certain GOLD one will look just grand in my little collectionn ;-)
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Post# 20169-7/22/2002-23:16 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: museum and conventions (convention coming up soon!)
MESSAGE: Hi -
We had a convention of members last year in Minneapolis at Robert Seger's. It was a wonderful time and we were all grateful for the opportunity to meet one another and spend time in our very own "washer mecca" in Robert's basement!
This year we are meeting again, August 16-18 in Washington D.C. There will be events at several collector's homes and a warehouse/museum. Most of us are flying into BWI (Baltimore) airport and staying at the College Park, MD Holiday Inn. If you look back to post #20126 & 20127, there are links to the hotel and an email link to the person who will need to know if you are coming, and when, transportation arrangements, etc. You are more than welcome to join us - the more the better! There will be quite a few vintage machines that we'll get to see hooked up and running and lots and lots in the warehouse as well to see.
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Post# 20170-7/22/2002-23:19 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - The collector's Filter-Flo
MESSAGE: I've seen Lady K's in coppertone and they are very cool. You are building quite a collection Jason, soon you'll need more room! Are you still planning on picking up your newest machine this weekend?
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Post# 20171-7/22/2002-23:52 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - The collector's Filter-Flo
MESSAGE: For some strange reason, a Lady Kenmore in coppertone doesn't seem as appropriate as a model one ore two steps down. Maybe that's because I associate coppertone Kenmores with neighbors who had a 70 or 700 series.
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Post# 20172-7/23/2002-05:35 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - The collector's Filter-Flo
MESSAGE: Jason - I have seen a Versatronic dryer in avocado and it was actually really pretty. I normally am not an avocado fan, but it does work with the GE laundry - I hope you get to see one in person soon. I think you might be swayed!!!!
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Post# 20173-7/23/2002-08:01 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - The collector's Filter-Flo
MESSAGE: Yes, 700s, 800s, etc look great in Copper but the "Queen" of them all should be a beautiful Avocado or gold.
I'm still planning on picking up the gold Lady K.
The collection is growing and it will soon outgrow this little trailer house.
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Post# 20174-7/23/2002-12:19 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - The collector's Filter-Flo
MESSAGE: Jason:
I agree wholeheartily. The 1967 GE that I saw yesterday was one of the best GEs I've seen yet. The only other GEs that I like just as much (if not more) are the "Timeline" model that you've mentioned, and the "Americana Dispensall" model from the 1970's. Other than that, for some odd reason, I haven't been able to get into GEs the same way I would get into a Kenmore, a Whirlpool, a Frigidaire, or a Westinghouse F/L (which is today's POD by the way). Oh by the way, the one that's in today's POD was made the same year I was born.
Some of us have all the luck (LOL).
--Charles--
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Post# 20175-7/23/2002-12:25 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - The collector's Filter-Flo
MESSAGE: Gansky1:
I've seen an early 1970's Lady Kenmore sitting out in an alley just a few years ago. And if I could recall correctly, that one was coppertone too. But all in all, coppertone Lady K's are okay. But to me, I prefer my Lady K's in avacado too. Especially the 1969-71 models. Otherwise, I'll take my Lady K's in white.
--Charles--
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Post# 20176-7/23/2002-14:59 ||| Jetaction (Minnepolis)
SUBJECT: 1953 Tappan Doughboy Stove
MESSAGE: I am in the process of restoring a wonderful old Tappan gas stove. I am wondering if any of you in the Minnesota area have any expertise in old gas stoves, as I am almost done with the detail work, and have some questions about the burner and some other parts that I am not sure about. Thanks, Don
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Post# 20177-7/23/2002-16:04 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1953 Tappan Doughboy Stove
MESSAGE: Hi Don, sorry I've only worked on a few ranges and they have been electric. I have a wonderful 30" 1954 Frigidaire electric range in my kitchen.
Your Tappen sounds wonderful, where did you find it? Personally I prefer electric ranges, but it would be really cool to find a Western Holly porthole range.
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Post# 20178-7/23/2002-17:54 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1953 Tappan Doughboy Stove (burner & valve experts)
MESSAGE: The people you need to contact are the experts at JES Enterprises. They have some great "how-to" books on restoring old gas ranges and can even be a good source for parts if you need them. I've heard good things about their Valve Cream to help with sticky, hard to turn valves.
LINK: www.antiquestoves.com
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Post# 20179-7/23/2002-17:55 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1953 Tappan Doughboy Stove (burner & valve experts)
MESSAGE: oops, bad link in the last post - try this one
LINK: http://www.antiquestoves.com
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Post# 20180-7/23/2002-17:57 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: 1958 Frigidaire Turquoise Dryer
MESSAGE: I bought it (the one on ebay) !!! YAY!!! My first vintage appliance purchase, I am so excited, I feel like a little kid.
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Post# 20181-7/23/2002-18:06 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1958 Frigidaire Turquoise Dryer
MESSAGE: oh, how wonderful! So glad it is going to get a home! I wrote to the seller after the auction ended and suggested he place it in the classified section of our club. I told him it was much too nice a piece to recycle or whatever. Enjoy!
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Post# 20182-7/23/2002-18:06 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1958 Frigidaire Turquoise Dryer (Isn't it fun?)
MESSAGE: Isn't it fun bringing home your first vintage machine? I remember how happy I was when I brought the little Kenmore into the house. It was late at night but I wanted to see her run. It's a thrill and a half to start up an old washer (or dryer) and hear it run and go through its cycle.
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Post# 20183-7/23/2002-19:24 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: New member says thanks for the warm welcome :) .
MESSAGE: ..........I did post my purchase on the board earlier. I will keep you posted and thanks again for sharing my excitement. I am, being from New England, I hate to say, surprised at how friendly and helpful alot of people have been out here. It seems like people will go out of their way to say, Hello, welcome, congrads and help is here if you need it. Robert from Minneapolis has already given me the history of Frigidaire and how to go about finding these classic appliances. His basement collection is my dream ! Maybe being from New England has nothing to do with it, but anyways I appreciate everyones help and sharing my enthusiasm has indeed heightened it. I will post this last paragraph out on the board as well.
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Post# 20184-7/23/2002-19:39 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: 1958 Frigidaire Turquoise Dryer (thanks)
MESSAGE: Thank you Scott!! I know others can relate when i say I am elated about this and (laughing at myself) I am not sure why. I totally love the look and style of most 40's through 60's things, I always have, especially anything mechanical. I also have a few clocks that are pretty unusual from the turn of the century up to some early, art deco electric clocks that I restored and refinished the wood case. I also collect, old radios, coffeepots, toasters, blenders, mixers, lamps, some furniture, etc. I am in the very early stages of all this but looking forward to growing this hobby and sharing with others who are into it too. My dream house will have everything 50's ish from literally "head-to-toe" with maybe some 40's or 60's thrown in. I also want but DO NOT have yet a vintage console TV and vintage console stereo. I have nothing to play my old 45's on (hahahaha). Some might be grateful for that.
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Post# 20185-7/23/2002-19:41 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: 1958 Frigidaire Turquoise Dryer (Isn't it fun?)
MESSAGE: ITs a blast man !!! my last two postings "..183 and ..184" sum it all up for me bud........
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Post# 20186-7/23/2002-20:45 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: 1958 Frigidaire Turquoise Dryer
MESSAGE: HOO-RAY!!! One Greg says no more dryers and another Greg stars with a dryer. And what a machine it is. Greg I'm relieved that the Filtrator is going to stay in the club and be saved.
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Post# 20187-7/23/2002-21:02 ||| Jetaction (Minnepolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1953 Tappan Doughboy Stove (More Tappan Information)
MESSAGE: I actually have two of these stoves, using the best of both to make one. One came from a shop in Mpls, the other off ebay. It is such a fun old stove, 40 inches with storage drawers including a crisper drawer with humidity control, storage for lids and pans, lighted burners, several other lights, and "Tel-U-Set"! That is basically a time bake feature, but the owners manual sings its praises by telling us that by using it, us housewives will have more time for bridge and church meetings. Gotta love those old owners manuals. Scott55405 and I both agreed that we would like more time for those things!!! I will try to post a link with a pic of the same stove, restored. scroll down to see pic of stove. Thanks.
LINK: http://www.monitortop.com/Inventory/Catalog/Stoves/1953Tappan/1953Tappan.html
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Post# 20188-7/23/2002-21:22 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: 1953 Tappan Doughboy Stove (Nice Pictures)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the link to the stoves! Those were very nice looking ranges.
Best of luck with your finds!
Brent
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Post# 20189-7/23/2002-21:46 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1953 Tappan Doughboy Stove (I can still smell the gumbo!)
MESSAGE: WOW, does that bring back memories of eating gumbo at my grandma's house in the country! And not to mention the homemade bread that used to come out of there. What a trip down memory lane.
Those are the only stoves that do anything for me. Probably because I grew up around a few of them.
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Post# 20190-7/23/2002-21:57 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Introducing...
MESSAGE: the latest addition to the collection...
-ph
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/vwp?.dir=/57+Frigidaire+Imperial&.src=ph&.dnm=56FDintro.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/lst%3f%26.dir=/57%2bFrigidaire%2bImperial%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 20191-7/23/2002-22:00 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: 1958 Frigidaire Turquoise Dryer
MESSAGE: thanks (big smile)
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Post# 20192-7/23/2002-22:04 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1958 Frigidaire Turquoise Dryer
MESSAGE: Greg, that's just wonderful, congratulations!! Did you try it out yet, how is it running? That certainly is a beautiful dryer.
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Post# 20193-7/23/2002-22:07 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Introducing...
MESSAGE: Peter, that is awesome, what a cool looking machine, love the control colors (copper?) and the lighted dial, thing looks mint, congrads..........,where did you find it? .......man I CANNOT wait to find my first Frigidaire pulsator washer, last time I saw one in person I was four and the first time I saw pictures of one was here when I joined a couple months ago at age 36.
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Post# 20194-7/23/2002-22:10 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Introducing...
MESSAGE: This is just wonderful Peter, congratulations on this wonderful acquisition! I have always loved that design. The 56 and 58 are my favorite of the Unimatic models. Do you know any of the machine's history? I venture a guess that it must have been unused for a while; it does not appear to have 46 years of constant use under its belt (oh wait, it doesn't have a belt!) You know what I mean! In all events, enjoy!!!! Scott
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Post# 20195-7/23/2002-22:11 ||| bendix5 (oregon)
SUBJECT: RE: Introducing...
MESSAGE: Peter that is a beautiful machine. I like the lighted dial.
Beautiful backsplash with lots of chrome. The name plate on the front. That is when manufacturers were proud to display their names and you could recognize their logos.
Enjoy!!!!
Dan
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Post# 20196-7/23/2002-22:11 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Skinny Mini pics
MESSAGE: I'll post a narrative tomorrow on how it works, but have a look...
-ph
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/vwp?.dir=/Skinny+Mini&.src=ph&.dnm=SMarrival.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/lst%3f%26.dir=/Skinny%2bMini%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 20197-7/23/2002-22:12 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Introducing... (Welcome to the Unimatic Circle Peter)
MESSAGE: Oh my goodness, and it works no less! That machine is MINT Peter, its just beautiful. '56 certainly was a great year. Congratulations and welcome to the world of Unimatic Washing, were drying is done in all of 20 minutes, and your sheets can be dry in around six minutes! Not to mention the fact the wash cycle is done in 28 minutes, no need for stops and starts, it just goes!
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Post# 20198-7/23/2002-22:13 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: 1958 Frigidaire Turquoise Dryer
MESSAGE: Haven't tried it, my brother-in-law has a class 2 truck here, we are going to go pick it up in a couple weeks, I mailed a deposit on it, my first, YAY !!!! I can;t share this excitement with to many people or even some of my friends, they laugh at me (in a good way - haha). They just don't get it and/or can't relate. So I try to compare with something they love like motorcycles. Then we sorta bond, hahaha. I feel very lucky to have found it. Going to store it in my mom's basement, little does she know that I am going to ask her to store one of many, but not to many. Who knows, hehehe
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Post# 20199-7/23/2002-22:19 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1958 Frigidaire Turquoise Dryer
MESSAGE: I'm glad it was saved by someone who will love it! Congrats on the beginning of your collection!
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Post# 20200-7/23/2002-22:20 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1953 Tappan Doughboy Stove (More Tappan Information)
MESSAGE: That really is a beautiful range - well worth the time and effort you've put into it.
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Post# 20201-7/23/2002-22:22 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Introducing...
MESSAGE: What a beautiful machine that is - and it works too!! Congrats Peter - you will never go back to slow spinning again!
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Post# 20202-7/23/2002-22:23 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: 56 Answers
MESSAGE: From what I understand, the machine was given to the mother of the seller in 1956 when they moved off the farm and into the sprawling metropolis of Ann Arbor, MI. She tried it, thought it wasted way too much water, and promptly went back to the wringer. The seller used the machine on and off, such as when he was home from college on break, and when he went to visit. The seller now lives in WI, the machine was in his parents home which is now occupied by his brother, who is quite ill. They wanted to get rid of the machine, but it was in such good shape they offered it on eBay.
The machine runs wonderfully, but needs new bellows as the tub leaks. It agitates and spins very smoothly and quietly. The agitator is in good shape, slightly discolored with age. The Circulator ring is loose, so you can see it is low on the agitator column. The tub is perfect -- no chips that I can find. There is just a tad of rust on the inside lid and a bit around the top of the tub. It is just beautiful underneath, no oil leak, no signs of water leaks.
The console is PINK, with silver and white harlequin. The logo on the front of the machine is also pink. The button in the middle of the load selector knob is a safety switch -- when you open the lid, it presses the button in and the machine shuts off. The motor reset button has been relocated (by hand, it appears) to the back of the machine for some reason. The timer light came right on when I first started the washer, but the timer indicator is off by one increment it seems.
More to come!!!
-ph
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Post# 20203-7/23/2002-22:24 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Skinny Mini pics (Syncro-Swingin')
MESSAGE: This is a very interesting mechanism - I can't wait to hear your review of the washing and spinning action.
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Post# 20204-7/23/2002-22:30 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Skinny Mini pics
MESSAGE: Interesting...even this design has at least one roller!
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Post# 20205-7/23/2002-22:30 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Skinny Mini pics (Syncro-Swingin')
MESSAGE: After I got it (properly) remounted on the base, I turned the idler pully by hand to see the agitation. This machine oscilates back and forth for about 220-250 degrees! According to the spec, it does so at 68-72 opm, going faster on the return stroke due to the way the mechanism is, so it has to be more dramatic that people have given it credit.
The idler pulley is rusty because it is cast iron. You can see a pic or two how the belt is slightly twisting. And there is no changing any belt until the belt tention spring is released, and that is going to be a BEAR!
This week's project will be redoing the connection so that it runs on 110 -- enuf for the washer to run!
-ph
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Post# 20206-7/23/2002-22:37 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 56 Answers
MESSAGE: ...if only that dear lady knew how much water *today's* washers use, she'd be mortified! Yet another example of how that generation's undying devotion to the wringer washer has benefitted collectors generations later! Robert could confirm that it is rare a week passes that a person goes to sales and doesn't find at least one home with a wringer washer and/or one in which an automatic has never been installed.
By the way, my circulator ring is loose too, but it does not in any way affect the quality of the laundry produced.
This is just so great...I am so excited for you I could just bust!
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Post# 20207-7/23/2002-22:43 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1958 Frigidaire Turquoise Dryer
MESSAGE: Congrats on landing that dryer! And welcome to the club!
-ph
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Post# 20208-7/23/2002-22:47 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1958 Frigidaire Turquoise Dryer
MESSAGE: Greg, I came out of the washer closet to my boyfriend about a month ago, thinking it was time he knew what he was dealing with (LOL). It went very well and he has been very interested in and supportive of the whole thing. This weekend, we are going to visit the other Greg, and Al will have his first experience with an in-home vintage washateria/laundry studio. This way, when he buys a house and I promptly commandeer his basement and most of his garage with appliances and vacuums, he'll be emotionally prepared and know what to expect. ;-) Pictures to follow!
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Post# 20209-7/23/2002-22:54 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1953 Tappan Doughboy Stove (More Tappan Information)
MESSAGE: Amen to that! Bridge Club, Maj, club luncheons, bring 'em on! ;-)
This sounds like an even more interesting range than I even imagined it to be. Crisper drawer and everything?! Can't wait to see it. Does it have a rather high backguard? I'm just trying to picture if I have seen such a range before.
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Post# 20210-7/23/2002-22:56 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: But what am I currently using?
MESSAGE: A pic or 2 for JasonL...
-ph
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/vwp?.dir=/Yahoo!+Photo+Album&.src=ph&.dnm=LKand118DCI.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/lst%3f%26.dir=/Yahoo!%2bPhoto%2bAlbum%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 20211-7/23/2002-23:00 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: But what am I currently using?
MESSAGE: What fun! I have to ask a question, having never personally used one of those wonderful Lady Kenmore button washers...are some of the buttons for things like cold water, second rinse, etc? I notice that there are about 3 of them pushed in at once...what year is this particular unit?
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Post# 20212-7/23/2002-23:11 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: But what am I currently using? (washer specs)
MESSAGE: 1972...
Top row: Automatic Pre-Wash or Sani-Rinse/Cottons White/Permanent Press White/Kntted Fabrics/Cold Wash/Cold Rinse/Optional Second Rinse
Bottom row: Automatic Pre-Soak/Cottons Colored/Permanent Press Colored/Delicates-Washable Woolens/Spin Only/Custom Care/Selective Dialing-Cancel
When the pic was taken, I just did a Cottons Colored load with cold rinse and optional second rinse...
-ph
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Post# 20213-7/23/2002-23:38 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: But what am I currently using? (Thirsty Lady!)
MESSAGE: and a second rinse for a whopping total of 57 gallons of water!
You'll love the new unimatic, at only 28 gallons per load, your water bill should be cut in half!
;-)
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Post# 20214-7/23/2002-23:38 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Introducing... (beautiful)
MESSAGE: Wow Peter...she is a beauty! Congratulations and many happy Unimatic washes!
Rich
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Post# 20215-7/23/2002-23:57 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: But what am I currently using?
MESSAGE: That gold Lady is way rad looking. And I never knew there were Frigidaire 118's with lighted consoles. How has the Quiet Pak insulation held up?
You ever want to have a wash-in there in Hotlanta, count me in. It would be well worth the 2-hour drive to see that Vari-Flex swish a load or two.
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Post# 20216-7/24/2002-02:30 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: Congratulations and Questions.
MESSAGE: Congratulations to Uni, Peter and Gizmo for their "new" Frigidaires. They look great!
A Question though, on Peters 56 and Unis 57 Pulsamatic, what is the small load switch for? Did the machine have two water levels? If so what did it do for overflow rinse?
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Post# 20217-7/24/2002-02:31 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: Hey Foraloyisius
MESSAGE: We are having an interesting chat in the sandbox, join in and give us your opinion.
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Post# 20218-7/24/2002-02:34 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Introducing...
MESSAGE: Peter, I'm glad it finally arrived. Glad I have now seen a 56. That makes a complete series for me 1954-1960.
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Post# 20219-7/24/2002-02:46 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: But what am I currently using? (Thirsty Lady!)
MESSAGE: Wow, and my 86 LK uses a total of 65 gallons when the 2nd rinse is used. 44 without second rinse.
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Post# 20220-7/24/2002-02:51 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Congratulations and Questions.
MESSAGE: arrroooaaah, the small load setting on Unimatics was achieved by increasing the speed of the timer motor and shortening the who wash cycle process. The shorter fill time resulted in the small load water level. It still did achieve an overflow rinse during the wash and rinse phases. A frustrating downside to all this, when I was a kid, aws that the smaller load still spun out on a full tub of water and many a time, tripped the off balance button and stopped the machine.
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Post# 20221-7/24/2002-03:58 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: But what am I currently using?
MESSAGE: You better go see it now because she's coming to New Orleans soon. Maybe next weekend.
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Post# 20222-7/24/2002-04:03 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: But what am I currently using? (Thirsty Lady!)
MESSAGE: But you have a bigger tub in yours. The 72 Lady is a 12# and yours is 14-16#?
Speaking of 2nd rinse, you don't need it if you use Arm & Hammer. This stuff rinses out clean. I almost had a suds vulcano in my little Lady (not on purpose, I was washing a rug) and when it rinsed, it was clear. Also, I had almost an oversuds in the front loader (A&H likes to suds sometimes) and with extra rinse, the final tumble was nice and clean.
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Post# 20223-7/24/2002-04:05 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1953 Tappan Doughboy Stove (More Tappan Information)
MESSAGE: I remember this r
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Post# 20224-7/24/2002-04:12 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1953 Tappan Doughboy Stove (Grandma's stove)
MESSAGE: I remember this range even though I was a little kid. It had a high splashback with a lighted console. I do remember the drawers in the side doors but I didn't know what they were for. It must've been a common stove because I had a few other relatives that had this one. I remember the oven controls in the right side door. Of course, the fondest memory was like I said watching and smelling the homemade bread bake and watching my grandmother cook on it.
As far as a "dream stove" I guess this would be it, even though I don't have a 40" cutout in my kitchen. Was there ever a 30" version?
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Post# 20225-7/24/2002-04:14 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: Peter's SkinnyMini Frigidaire
MESSAGE: Peter, so glad to see you got your machines home safe and sound! Seeing the SkinnyMini brought back the memories of getting it off the appliance farm......what fun that was! Curious to know what you find wrong with the machine, if anything. It looked like it was in such good shape when we took it apart...........Now I am so eager to make the trip to Greg's to pick up my Philcos.........Jimmy
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Post# 20226-7/24/2002-08:20 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: 1958 Frigidaire Turquoise Dryer
MESSAGE: Congratulations, Greg, you have a fine machine. I guess you were the one who went to look at it after me that evening......
Unfortunately, I have no basement and I am not sure that a dryer exhausting into my main level living area would have been the wisest thing.
It looks beautiful though. And it obviously works - the only possible problem the previous owner mentioned to me was that the top of the machine would get uncomfortably hot during the drying cycle.
Hated to let that one go, but it was a thrill to see it anyway. I do wonder though, what washer was in that house before the owner bought it. HE has told me that nothing had changed in that house since the 50's. The best part is that there had been a big estate sale there just before he bought it 18 months ago. If I knew then what I know now.............
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Post# 20227-7/24/2002-08:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1958 Frigidaire Turquoise Dryer
MESSAGE: That dryer has an operating temperature (on High heat) of 200-210 F. The heating elements are in the top left corner of the machine (facing front of machine) so the top of the dryer will get warm after running for a while. If the thermostats are working properly, and running with a full load, the top of the dryer won't feel as hot, but it still gets pretty warm, this is normal. When I restored my 59 Filtrator (same design as this 58) I replaced the top insulation with nearly twice the R-value of what was there, but it still gets warm while running. Just the nature of the beast....
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Post# 20228-7/24/2002-08:31 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Skinny Mini pics
MESSAGE: Hi Peter
That Frigidaire of yours is gorgeous! Where did you find it??
The skinny mini, can you give us any idea how it works? It looks like a complicated mechanism. It appears not to have a "transmission", is that right?
The name Skinny Mini is still used in Australia, but it is a laundry trough (sink) only 45cm wide instead of the usual 60cm wide. It was never a washer over here.
Good luck with your new toys.
Chris.
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Post# 20229-7/24/2002-08:31 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Skinny Mini pics
MESSAGE: Hi Peter
That Frigidaire of yours is gorgeous! Where did you find it??
The skinny mini, can you give us any idea how it works? It looks like a complicated mechanism. It appears not to have a "transmission", is that right?
The name Skinny Mini is still used in Australia, but it is a laundry trough (sink) only 45cm wide instead of the usual 60cm wide. It was never a washer over here.
Good luck with your new toys.
Chris.
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Post# 20230-7/24/2002-08:47 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Introducing... (WOW!)
MESSAGE: Peter,
I had no idea that your new Frigidare would be in such good shape! That is amazing! Can't wait to see and watch it work!
I know that you will be a good parent for it!
Thanks for the pictures!
Brent
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Post# 20231-7/24/2002-09:39 ||| Jetaction (Minnepolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1953 Tappan Doughboy Stove (Tappan Doughboy)
MESSAGE: I don't believe it ever was made at 30 inches. It came with a set of doughboy salt and pepper shakers, which I have as well. They are the same mascot that appears under the burner covers. This also was my Grandma's stove, as I remember the excitement of watching those red burner knobs glow when you turned the burners on. Not much has changed!
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Post# 20232-7/24/2002-09:46 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: But what am I currently using? (Thirsty Lady!)
MESSAGE: Towels get a second rinse. My heavy towels just "aren't right" without an extra flush. Also, if I have to boost the detergent with either bleach or ammonnia (NEVER BOTH AT THE SAME TIME!), I do an extra rinse.
And my home water bill is low, as I do most washing at the 'mat...
The Atlanta area has soft water as it is. A&H detergent is mostly washing soda and baking soda. I don't use it because of calcium build up and I don't like the way it smells.
-ph
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Post# 20233-7/24/2002-09:52 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Peter's SkinnyMini Frigidaire
MESSAGE: The only things that I'm dubious about are the 1) rusty idler and 2) the pump. The pump on these babies is integrated into the outer tub. You have to remove the Agi-tub to get to it. The Agi-Tub sets on a tub support-driver and is secure to the support by the cap on the top of the agitator. I can get the cap off, but I can't break the tub off the support. So the pump is in limbo and will take running the machine with water to see what's what. Leslie has suggested putting some antifreeze in the outer tub to lubricate the pump and seal, so I may try that first. The rusty idler is just plain ugly and may cause extra wear on the belts, which are questionable as is. But to change the belts, you have to compress the tension spring which is super, SUPER strong. I hope to have the SM connected for 110 by the end of the week to give it test run and see what happens...
-ph
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Post# 20234-7/24/2002-10:07 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Skinny Mini pics (How it works)
MESSAGE: You have to look at the pictures to see what I'm talking about, but here it goes.
You see that the motor driver is connected by dual belts to the rusty idler pulley, which then is conneced by another pair of belts to the drive pulley. On the drive pully is the drive arm. As the pulley turns, the drive arm moves back and forth. If you've seen old locomotives, you see how the wheels turn which drives the piston (or visa versa). It's the same idea -- turning circular motion into reversing linear motion.
On the drive arm is a cable set. The cable set winds from one arm end around the agitate drum to the other end. Remember how one of the ways to start a fire at camp was to wind string around a stick, then pull the string back and forth to turn the stick on another stick to create friction and heat? Same principle -- the drive arm moves back and forth, and the cable set turns the agitate drum one way then the next. According to the specs, because of this arrangement, the tub turns faster on the return stroke, so the OPM speed is 68-72.
For spinning, the motor reverses. Turning the driver in the opposite direction pulls the spin roller in contact with the driver and the spin wheel. As this happens, the spin wheel disengages the agitate clutch and spins the tub. The agitate cable/drum arrangement is still doing it's thing, but because the clutch is disengaged, it has no effect. Just the opposite is true during agitation -- while the spin roller is in contact with the motor driver and the spin wheel, the clutch is pulled down so the spin turning is disengaged and the tub agitates.
-ph
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Post# 20235-7/24/2002-12:59 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: 1958 Frigidaire Turquoise Dryer
MESSAGE: Hi Greg
I remember that my mom would never set our 55 Frigidaire filtrator on high. It was set on medium and was never moved from that spot in the 15 years she used it. She told me that the salesman or service man had told her to keep it on medium, that high got too hot. Of course, one also had to keep the lint out of the interior of the machine with the spiffy lint brush. It sure did make our basement warm and smell good. With six kids, that thing was always running, except in the summer when clothes were hung outside.
Rich
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Post# 20236-7/24/2002-14:29 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1953 Tappan Doughboy Stove (... before we get to Grandma's place)
MESSAGE: I don't remember the knobs lighting up on my my grandma's but maybe the lights were burned out. The oven had a light and she would leave it on so I could look at the bread baking.
Beautiful stove nonetheless and I'm sure there are still some Doughboys out there still cookin'.
My grandma also had a 1950 Frigidaire refrigerator which is one of my dream fridges. I have a picture of it from 1977 right before she died.
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Post# 20237-7/24/2002-14:53 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Some questions for Unimatic1140.
MESSAGE: When your WCI-58 starts Pulsating why does it start to spin first a little bit? Does the Pulsator help brake for the spin by Pulsating? Also does any washers agitator, Pulsator, or whatever have strain during the spin? Does it expand some?
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Post# 20238-7/24/2002-14:57 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: NEWSFLASH - Here We Go Again!!!
MESSAGE: Some of the older Applianceville members will remember Estate Sale Gary, who quite frequently goes estate saleing with me on Saturdays. The other day Gary tells me this story…
"Last Monday, I showed up for my 6:30am Spinning Class (exercise bikes). My friend Heidi set up next to me. She is a very nice mother of two. Her husband works for Minnegasco servicing air conditioners. I struck up a conversation about how sweltering hot it had been and how ugly Heidi's husband's job probably was. She agreed that he'd been spending a lot of time out in the mid-90 degree heat. YUK. She also shared with me that she'd had been spending time at her mother's house and who had been taking her laundry to a laundromat. Apparently, the drum in her mother’s gas dryer drum had suddenly stopped turning. I commented that her husband should just fix it or refer someone from Minnegasco. Heidi said that they had been there but Minnegasco had major reservations about fixing something that was almost 40 years old.
That comment peaked my interest. I asked her what kind of washer/dryer set her mom had. She said that the machines were by Frigidaire and they were turquoise colored!!! Her mom bought them in 1966 from the now defunct Donaldson department store warehouse. Up until the belt broke on the dryer, she had been using them for her laundry. She described her mother as being very meticulous and that they were in wonderful shape. It was a shame that it was time for them to be hauled away for trash. I gave her my phone number and told her that I had a friend that might be interested in them. A few hours later, Heidi called me at work to let me know that she had spoken with her mother. They were purchased in 1966 but were old stock left over from 1964. She even had all of the original manuals and all the paperwork."
So Gary tells me this story and hands me Heidi’s mom’s phone number, I called and left a message. She’s just called me back and says that she has decided to buy a new washer and dryer, her new set is being delivered on Friday and will sell me her old turquoise Frigidaire set. Turns out that the Frigidaire set has been humming along all this time and its only ten blocks away from my house! She said the washer works perfectly and she has been using it faithfully since they day they were installed in ’66.
What’s most interesting here is the fact that she bought them in ’66 yet the sales people told her they were from the 1964 line. I find it odd that Donaldson's (a major department store then) would have held onto inventory from two years prior. So I suspect that it might be a turquoise 1965 roller-matic washer and matching gas dryer. But we will see, I’ll be going over there at 8:15 tonight to unhook the machines and get them ready for moving on Thursday evening. I will let everyone know the second I get home from her house tonight.
Maybe Bob needs to bake a cake for Estate Sale Gary!
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Post# 20239-7/24/2002-15:15 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Some questions for Unimatic1140.
MESSAGE: Hi Jamie, let me see if I can answer your questions.
When your WCI-58 starts Pulsating why does it start to spin first a little bit?
Because during the spin cycle the agitator mechanism and spin mechanism lock together by tightening down a big spring. In order to release the agitator mechanism so it’s free from the spinning mechanism, the big spring needs to unwind. The little clockwise turn is simply that big spring unwinding. Once the big spring is completely unwound and the agitation mechanism is unlocked its starts pulsating.
Does the Pulsator help brake for the spin by Pulsating?
Nope no help there. The Unimatic transmission has two modes, either agitation/brake mode or spin mode. As soon as the spin cycle is over the transmission is immediately put back into agitation/brake mode. Since the tub is still turning and its connected directly to the motor, the tub acts as a driving force which continues to turn the motor shaft. Since the transmission is now in agitation mode and the motor shaft is being turned for a moment by the tub, this drives the agitator up and down for about 20 seconds until the tub comes to a complete stop.
Also does any washers agitator, Pulsator, or whatever have strain during the spin? Does it expand some?
All washer strain a bit when spin first starts. But motors are prepared to take this strain. Most washer motors have a big capacitor on the motor. A capacitor simply is a device that saves up a bit of extra electricity like a battery. When the motor first starts the capacitor discharges its extra electricity into the motor giving the motor a BIG extra push, this helps the motor get going and up to full speed as quickly as possible.
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Post# 20240-7/24/2002-15:15 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: NEWSFLASH - Here We Go Again!!!
MESSAGE: What a *wonderful* story this is, that these machines have been in use all these years (doesn't surprise me with a Frigidaire) and that they are being saved for posterity! Donaldson's was of course a big Frigidaire dealer in those days.
You might be interested to know that my roommate (then, and again now) bought a brand new belt-drive Whirlpool washer/dryer set at Dayton's warehouse, in early 1989...3 years after they had been discontinued, so stuff does sometimes sit in those warehouses for a while. It was a standard capacity machine with a waterfall filter, so who knows how long that may have been around.
Donaldson's warehouse was on Hiawatha Avenue, somewhere along where those grain elevators and so forth are.
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Post# 20241-7/24/2002-15:20 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: 1958 Frigidaire Turquoise Dryer (Thanks Pete!!)
MESSAGE: thank you :)
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Post# 20242-7/24/2002-15:25 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: 1958 Frigidaire Turquoise Dryer (Scott, (lol))
MESSAGE: Well, my other half already knows what an old appliance nutcase I am. Its all I talk about since I found applianceville, and he has a three car garage and a barn, so he should be scared, LOL. ......There seems to be a "theme" in applianceville, if you cetch my drift, LOL. My mom says its something in the drinking water.
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Post# 20243-7/24/2002-15:27 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Some questions for Unimatic1140. (Awesome!)
MESSAGE: That is really cool! Thanks for answering!
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Post# 20244-7/24/2002-15:29 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Introducing...
MESSAGE: Congratulations Peter, that washer really looks good. This particular model was the first GM Frigidaire that I saw pictures of. It was a pink set and I found it really spectacular. And I didn't even know what the inside looked like or what a Unimatic was. Enjoy it!
Louis
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Post# 20245-7/24/2002-15:30 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: 1958 Frigidaire Turquoise Dryer ((reply-angus))
MESSAGE: Thanks alot, I am very happy about it, my first vintage appliance purchase, i think i may be spending a little more than i should but "live and learn". I am still thrilled.
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Post# 20246-7/24/2002-15:32 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: 1958 Frigidaire Turquoise Dryer ((replc insul))
MESSAGE: replacing the insulation is a good idea, hope this is not a stupid question but would it get so hot that it could start a fire? melt the wiring? or damage the controls? (god help me, i sound like my mother)
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Post# 20247-7/24/2002-15:36 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: 1958 Frigidaire Turquoise Dryer ((med sttng, lint brush?))
MESSAGE: Thanks for the tip Rich, I gather bright colors might fade in that kind of heat too, (lol). What did you mean by spiffy lint brush? Am I suppose to brush out the inside with something after using it?? -Regards, Greg
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Post# 20248-7/24/2002-15:40 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: NEWSFLASH - Here We Go Again!!!
MESSAGE: Bob, thats AWESOME, what are the odds? congrads...........
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Post# 20249-7/24/2002-15:41 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1958 Frigidaire Turquoise Dryer (Scott, (lol))
MESSAGE: hehehehehehe
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Post# 20250-7/24/2002-15:45 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1958 Frigidaire Turquoise Dryer ((med sttng, lint brush?))
MESSAGE: Greg, the Filtrator dryers came with a sort of bottle brush type thing, used to clean all those little tubes in the drawer you pull out underneath, the catches the lint and water.
These are really amazing machines, but I've always had difficulty picturing a petite 98 pound housewife working with that heavy drawer. But, where there's a will, there's a way!
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Post# 20251-7/24/2002-15:52 ||| Gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: Learning to fix vintage appliances
MESSAGE: Obviously to the best of my knowledge there is no school, course, etc. on this. I appreciate that I can inquire here, however, I would like to educate myself and not sure how to go about it or where to begin. I have thought of taking classes on appliance repair but that would apply to today's appliances. BUT, would that give me an advantageous edge to fixing old??
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Post# 20252-7/24/2002-15:59 ||| Gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: 1958 Frigidaire Turquoise Dryer ((med sttng, lint brush?))
MESSAGE: That machine is a kick-butt heavy mutha, LOL, its OK, I am a big-strappin guy, I can handle it, lol. I could probably get one of those brushes at "Wal-mart"?? So did the drawer get vacuumed free of lint after using every time?? I assume it will dry better if all those tubes are nice and clean and clear?? thanks...
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Post# 20253-7/24/2002-16:05 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: Picture of the day 7/24/02
MESSAGE: Did anyone see this?? What I wouldn't do for a combo TOP-loading dishwasher and sink right next to it from the late 40's !!!
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Post# 20254-7/24/2002-16:09 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1958 Frigidaire Turquoise Dryer ((med sttng, lint brush?))
MESSAGE: There's a tray underneath all the tubes that collects all the water that you can take out and dump, or, and Robert or Greg or someone might know how to do this I *believe* you can somehow rig it to drain right down the drain, but don't quote me on that. I think one of them told me that once. You could probably get a similar brush at Walmart, and I don't see why you couldn't vacuum the lint part of it.
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Post# 20255-7/24/2002-16:11 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the day 7/24/02
MESSAGE: I meant to comment on that earlier; it was fun to see that unit! There is also a round dishwasher unit GE made, that is not automatic; i.e., you have to monitor the cycle, fill and drain and etc (I think). I had thought that was from around that period, but perhaps that one was even older.
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Post# 20256-7/24/2002-16:47 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: 1958 Frigidaire Turquoise Dryer ((med sttng, lint brush?))
MESSAGE: Hi Greg and Scott
Besides the tubes in the filtrator, these dryers accumulated quite a bit of lint inside the cabinet. This is because they have a perforated drum open to the inside of the outer cabinet. Once in a while you have to clean out the inside of the cabinet. I remember ours getting lint all the up to around the ozone lamp in the upper left corner, above the heating elements (the elements were covered and somewhat protected from the lint.) That is why that silly brush has such a long handle on it. I was telling Greg Gansky about this brush that came with my mom's dryer, and just a few weeks later he found one...or one came with a vintage dryer, or something. Anyway, I'm sure he has a picture of this cleaning brush that was issued with Frigidaire Filtrator dryers and will post it.
Rich
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Post# 20257-7/24/2002-16:49 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: 1958 Frigidaire Turquoise Dryer ((med sttng, lint brush?))
MESSAGE: Yes, Scott, you can indeed have them drain by themselves. At the back of the tray is a little plug that can be popped out and a hose inserted and directed to a floor drain. My grandparents had their Filtrator dryer installed in this manner.
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Post# 20258-7/24/2002-18:38 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Pulsator Washers (Frigidaire Pulsator (what kind?))
MESSAGE: Well I don't know much either, I am only 12 years old. I know kinds. There is Pulsamtic, Multimatic, Unimatic, and Super Duty. They all have Pulsators though.
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Post# 20259-7/24/2002-18:49 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1958 Frigidaire Turquoise Dryer ((replc insul))
MESSAGE: There are four safeguards for controlling the temperature and operation of the dryer, the first as I mentioned is the "operating" thermostat that is connected to the knob on the control panel. High heat cut-off is 200-210 degrees, when it reaches this temp, the thermostat switch cuts the power to the heater circuit until the temperature goes down and reactivates the heaters. There is also a safety thermostat in the back of the dryer. If the operating thermostat should fail, the safety thermostat will cut the heaters off at 239 F. The third and fourth safety features are connected to one another. The power to the motor runs through a switch that will open if the drum belt should break, thus not allowing the motor to start, and inside the motor is a speed switch that closes the circuit to the heating element power. If the motor doesn't start, or come up to full operating speed, the heaters will get no power, preventing heating with no tumbling and/or fan operation.
I replaced the insulation in my 59 Filtrator because this was one that I pulled off the South Dakota appliance burial ground. Since it had been sitting outside for many years, all the insulation had been wet and was full of dirt, etc. Newer insulating technologies have come along since 1959 which allowed me to nearly double the insulating qualities (R-value) when I replaced it. This should make the dryer more efficient as less heat will escape the cabinet through the sides and top.
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Post# 20260-7/24/2002-18:54 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1958 Frigidaire Turquoise Dryer ((med sttng, lint brush?))
MESSAGE: Yes! Here is the picture of the brush that came inside my 1955 Filtrator.
A refrigerator coil cleaning brush would work nicely too.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/June+2002+Iowa+Hunting&.src=ph&.dnm=Dsc00280.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/June%2b2002%2bIowa%2bHunting%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 20261-7/24/2002-18:57 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Pulsator Washers (Frigidaire Pulsator (what kind?))
MESSAGE: Don't forget Rollermatic, made from 1965 through 1979 (with some variation)
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Post# 20262-7/24/2002-20:37 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: But what am I currently using? (Thirsty Lady!)
MESSAGE: Jason, the 72 LK was rated at 14 pounds. The water volume per pound is what I'm looking at. And you know that I do lots of stuff on gentle because of the shred-more potential.
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Post# 20263-7/24/2002-20:47 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: NEWSFLASH - Here We Go Again!!!
MESSAGE: Robert, another one of "those" stories again. I'm very thankful Gary was in the right place at the right time. And although he's taken, Gary is so cute, I'd love to bake him a cake. Anytime. This is definitely worth celebrating. GARY TERRIFIC DETECTIVE JOB. Go dude!!!
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Post# 20264-7/24/2002-20:53 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: 1958 Frigidaire Turquoise Dryer (Scott, (lol))
MESSAGE: Greg, we've had the discussion about this "theme" many times. HE HE HE.
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Post# 20265-7/24/2002-21:22 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: 1958 Frigidaire Turquoise Dryer (SD grvyrd gone-any othrs?)
MESSAGE: I wrote a couple weeks ago and someone had informed me that the South Dakota appliance graveyard had been leveled and that all the old machines were crushed and/or destroyed :(
There must be another place like this somewhere ???
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Post# 20266-7/24/2002-21:25 ||| Jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1958 Frigidaire Turquoise Dryer (what?)
MESSAGE: They leveled the rest of it?? OMG!
All those poor Kenmores that never found a home!
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Post# 20267-7/24/2002-21:31 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: My current machines, blah-blah-blah
MESSAGE: A boring GE washer model # WWA8808MALWH, not sure what year it is, I am guessing late 80's or early 90's?? Very noisy.
A cooler but still not the most attractive Whirlpool dryer model # LTE6700A1. I think this is a 1967 model, very basic bottom of the line, got to love the avocado green. Works great, except takes longer to dry than I think it should, thermostat seems to work OK, you can hear the subtle click and see the orange color of the heating element come off and on through the vents in the back. I think its been serviced before, has some repairman's sticker on it.
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Post# 20268-7/24/2002-21:33 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: 1958 Frigidaire Turquoise Dryer ((med sttng, lint brush?))
MESSAGE: thanks :) .
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Post# 20269-7/24/2002-21:37 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: 1958 Frigidaire Turquoise Dryer (what?)
MESSAGE: I know, I know, but I have only been a member for two months, wish I had been able to go to SD, I would have given a Kenmore a home. Thats why I say there has got to be a similar place out there. I heard of something in St. Albains, VT, i will research and let everyone know.
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Post# 20270-7/24/2002-21:56 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1958 Frigidaire Turquoise Dryer (SD grvyrd gone-any othrs?)
MESSAGE: Well, the SD appliance farm is still there, but most of the really old stuff is gone. The appliances left out there are mostly all 60's and 70's vintage now. Here are some of the pictures I took on my first trip there in May.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst?.dir=/2002+Aberdeen+Appliance+Burial+Ground&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/
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Post# 20271-7/24/2002-22:28 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: 1958 Frigidaire Turquoise Dryer (what?)
MESSAGE: I think GregM is referring to my response to his question about SD. I didn't say *everything* was gone, just the really old vintage/classic stuff, as per Gansky1's report.
Also see his response just below.
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Post# 20272-7/24/2002-22:42 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: NEWSFLASH - Here We Go Again!!!
MESSAGE: Well I checked out the Turquoise Frigidaire set tonight. We're going to bring them home tomorrow. I'll eventually be looking for good collector homes for these beautiful machines. They are just in beautiful shape, the dryer is a '64 Deluxe and the washer is a '65 Custom Deluxe Rollermatic with a Jet-Cone Deep Action Agitator. The washer works perfectly and all the dryer needs is a new belt.
LINK: http://www.classicappliances.com/TEMP/Turq.jpg
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Post# 20273-7/24/2002-22:46 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: NEWSFLASH - Here We Go Again!!!
MESSAGE: That's just fantastic! Too fun that they are both in such great shape, and that they have been in regular use all these years.
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Post# 20274-7/24/2002-22:50 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: NEWSFLASH - Here We Go Again!!!
MESSAGE: Robert - again I am amazed at the good fortune. The appliance gods must be blessing Minneapolis!!!. What beautiful condition those machines are in. And how great that they have been in use all of this time..........
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Post# 20275-7/24/2002-23:21 ||| bendix5 (oregon)
SUBJECT: RE: NEWSFLASH - Here We Go Again!!!
MESSAGE: Oh, what a neat find and a neat story to go along with it. I wonder how many other great things people will find this summer. It seems like most of the great stuff is hidden in the basements of Minnesota. Enjoy!
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Post# 20276-7/24/2002-01:00 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: NEWSFLASH - Here We Go Again!!!
MESSAGE: That's b-cause it so cold there, everything is well preserved LOL
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Post# 20277-7/25/2002-02:46 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: NEWSFLASH - Here We Go Again!!!
MESSAGE: Ohhh!
I wonder how much it would cost to ship that washer to Australia...
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Post# 20278-7/25/2002-06:37 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: NEWSFLASH - Here We Go Again!!!
MESSAGE: I would LOVE to own those machines, especially the washer. I wonder if it would match my '58 Filtrator dryer i just bought? Actually appears to be a different shade of turquoise. What a find !! Yea, and the gods are watching over you, to luck out like that. Congrads :) .
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Post# 20279-7/25/2002-06:46 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Skinny Mini pics (How it works)
MESSAGE: Thanks Peter,
that is an excellent word-picture you painted there. I think I understand it now. It isn't as complicated as it first looks in the photo.
Chris
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Post# 20280-7/25/2002-07:06 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: NEWSFLASH - Here We Go Again!!!
MESSAGE: I was wondering the same thing...
Maybe we should go halves, Arrrooohhh, but we'd have to site it in Albury to avoid custody disputes!
It looks rather like Aussie built Frigidaires of the same vintage, but I doubt they came in anything but white, and the rollermatic mechanism was never used here (I think...)
Chris.
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Post# 20281-7/25/2002-07:09 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: NEWSFLASH - Here We Go Again!!!
MESSAGE: Hi Robert
What a find!
This has been a great month for the club, hasn't it?
As you can imagine we are all waiting and holding our breath to see pics of the inside of the washer...
Chris.
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Post# 20282-7/25/2002-08:14 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: NEWSFLASH - Here We Go Again!!!
MESSAGE: That is a fabulous color, and in such remarkable condition too. What kind of washer and dryer is she replacing them with?
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Post# 20283-7/25/2002-08:39 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: NEWSFLASH - Here We Go Again!!! (Frigidaire!)
MESSAGE: Robert this is a GREAT find
Best of Luck
Peter
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Post# 20284-7/25/2002-09:04 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: NEWSFLASH - Here We Go Again!!!
MESSAGE: She's replacing them with a new Maytag top loader and matching dryer, she said she had heard through friends that the Whirlpool Top Loaders were very hard on clothes, "even bath towels"!
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Post# 20285-7/25/2002-09:23 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: NEWSFLASH - Here We Go Again!!!
MESSAGE: So sad... replacing these beauties because some repair dude was too lazy to check for a belt...
-ph
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Post# 20286-7/25/2002-09:35 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: NEWSFLASH - Here We Go Again!!!
MESSAGE: ...I can tell you've not been here in the last 6 weeks or so, Bob. ;-)
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Post# 20287-7/25/2002-09:38 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: NEWSFLASH - Here We Go Again!!!
MESSAGE: Yes, but if Gary had not had this happenstance conversation with his exercise friend; well, I don't even want to *think* of what may have happened then...
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Post# 20288-7/25/2002-12:49 ||| calypso bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention (Thank you)
MESSAGE: Greg,
My name is Bruce, I live in Dorchester, Ma.. It is nice to know someone else around here. If you would like to we could Email and possibly show you my classics.
My Email is brucesavery@hotmail.com.
Welcome to the club.
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Post# 20289-7/25/2002-12:56 ||| calypso bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: 1958 Frigidaire Turquoise Dryer
MESSAGE: Congrats on the dryer. It's nice to know that it did not go to the crusher. Best of luck with it
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Post# 20290-7/25/2002-13:30 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: NEWSFLASH - Here We Go Again!!!
MESSAGE: I want them, I want them, I want them!!!!!
OOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHH NNNOOOOOOOOO, I'm living too far away!!!!!
Luigi
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Post# 20291-7/25/2002-13:39 ||| calypso bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: NEWSFLASH - Here We Go Again!!!
MESSAGE: Robert, did the Custom Deluxe have the 710 rpm spin?. If I remember only the Imperial and Custom Imperial had the rapidry spin. I am still learning about these machines.
Beautifull color
Thanks
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Post# 20292-7/25/2002-13:45 ||| calypso bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: Restoration /Consoles
MESSAGE: I just got my 66' CIK set the other day. I just put a new pump on it and is running beutifully. I have a question about the console.
Does anyone know how to restore the chrome-colored strips with the lettering behind the console as well as the black lettering under the buttons. What about the dispenser lid that has pitted somewhat over the years.
These machines are in such good shape that I want to bring them to showroom if possible.
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks to all.
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Post# 20293-7/25/2002-14:25 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: NEWSFLASH - Here We Go Again!!!
MESSAGE: '63 dryer... The baby brother to my '63 DIA... "The Flowing Heat Dryer"... '64 was the first year of the tall consoles that lasted to the end of the DD Rollermatic line, and the last year of the Multimatic mechanism... Sharp, sharp machines! I know someone here will adopt them quick!
-ph
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Post# 20294-7/25/2002-14:44 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: NEWSFLASH - Here We Go Again!!!
MESSAGE: Robert, congratulations on this "slam-dunk"! Is that a gas dryer?
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Post# 20295-7/25/2002-14:48 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: NEWSFLASH - Here We Go Again!!!
MESSAGE: After so many years with the pulsator, she'll probably be shocked at the wear from any agitator washer!
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Post# 20296-7/25/2002-16:20 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: NEWSFLASH - Here We Go Again!!! (Bruce)
MESSAGE: Well Bruce:
I can answer that one for you. I think that the Frigidaire Custom Deluxe had a "RapidDry" spin as well as the Imperials and the Custom Imperials did. Because if I could recall correctly, my "late" great uncle had a more deluxe version of this machine, and I know for certain that his had the "RapidDry" spin. His had four dials on the control console, and the one that I saw today that Uni has pictured has three dials on it. His was coppertone too. Nonetheless, they were wonderful machines.
A Frigidaire looks beautiful in Turquoise.
--Charles--
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Post# 20297-7/25/2002-18:31 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: NEWSFLASH - Here We Go Again!!!
MESSAGE: Neat!
I thought the '65 Rollermatics came with plunger/rubber type of agitators, not Jet-cones. Was this an exception, or a retrofit upgrade of some sort? Or did they make Jetcones in '65?
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Post# 20298-7/25/2002-18:32 ||| BsmntFullOSuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: Laundromat a good business opportunity?
MESSAGE: Laundromat seem a good business for a appliance fanatic or what? I worked as an attendant for a high school job summer job, not bad job and no catastrophic machine failures or major problems.
Could write off your appliance collecting hobby as a business expense! Use extra space or adjacent storefront to store, or display and sell classic appliiances?
What's the oldest washers and dryers still economical for reliable coin-op service? Something that you can get parts for, energy efficient, and that you wouldn't cry if it got vandalized, beaten or shot in an unattended laundry.
Digital video monitoring systems and hidden cameras have dropped in price in last few years. Could watch your business from comfort of home. Any laundromats with coin-op Internet terminals?
Probably a pain in the ass with refunds, damage claims, utility bills, but maybe a better deal than busting your ass for the next Worldcom?
These articles seemed well written, links from
http://www.coinlaundry.org/file.html
"Coin laundries are unique small businesses in that they have no inventory or receivables, and no traditional employees. A minority of coin laundries employ attendants."
"Coin laundries range in market value from $50,000 to $1,000,000, and can generate cash flow between $15,000 and $200,000 per year."
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Post# 20299-7/25/2002-18:35 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: NEWSFLASH - Here We Go Again!!!
MESSAGE: The "Jetcone" (Deep Action Agitator) made its first appearance in 1964. Actually "Deep Action Agitator" is the correct term for the pre 1-18 models; 1-18 is when the name was actually "Jet Cone". In 1963, there was a modified form of the 3 ring agitator where it actually begins to look a bit more like a jet cone.
By the way, I have always been of the opinion that the resemblance of the deep action agitator to an Apollo space capsule was no mere coincidence.
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Post# 20300-7/25/2002-18:36 ||| BsmntFullOSuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: Laundromat a recession-proof business?
MESSAGE: This sounds like a good pitch to sell your stocks and buy a laundromat:
"Clean clothes, like food and shelter, are considered a necessity of life-- and coin laundries provide a basic health service for millions of Americans. While coin-ops are found in virtually all neighborhoods across the country, stores seem to perform exceptionally well in predominately renter-occupied, densely-populated areas. These areas are increasing in number with each year throughout the country. The intense population growth, coupled with the expansion of rental housing has increased the customer base for coin laundries.
Coin laundries thrive in periods of both growth and recession. During periods of recession, when home ownership decreases, the self service laundry market expands as more people are unable to afford to repair, replace, or purchase new washers and dryers, or as they move to apartment housing with inadequate or nonexistent laundry facilities. The market size grows proportionately to the increase in population. Revenues of a coin laundry rarely vary from month to month. The public will always need this basic health service...people always need to wash clothes!"
LINK: http://www.coinlaundry.org/industry_overview.html
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Post# 20301-7/25/2002-18:47 ||| BsmntFullOSuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: Used coin-op front-loader good for home use?
MESSAGE: Had to go to laundromat yesterday to wash a comforter. They had Wascomat front loaders like just about every other laundromat in the area for the last 20-25 years. Wonder what these sell for used, if a good alternative to new front-loader? Any classic front loaders still in coin-op use?
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Post# 20302-7/25/2002-18:56 ||| BsmntFullOSuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: More advice on laundromat business
MESSAGE: "Whenever you consider a laundromat purchase, open the door on each front‑loader and each dryer, reach in and try to rattle the cylinder. If you can rattle it, it needs bearings‑ an expensive and difficult repair‑ especially for washing machines, due to the water‑tight seals."
this true for home machines too?
LINK: http://laundromatadvisor.com/
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Post# 20303-7/25/2002-19:06 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: ROBERT, ROBERT, ROBERT, GARY, GARY, GARY!
MESSAGE: THAT IS SO NICE! I LOVE THOSE MACHINES! I BET THAT THIS NICE WOMAN WAS SO HAPPY THAT YOU HAD A INTEREST IN HER BELOVED MACHINES! I AM ALSO SURE THAT SHE WAS SO HAPPY THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE LOVED, AND USED, AND FIXED NO MATTER WHAT THE PROBLEMS THAT WOULD ARISE! THIS IS WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT!
THIS WAS MEANT TO BE!
THANKS SO MUCH FOR SHARING ROBERT AND GARY!
BRENT
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Post# 20304-7/25/2002-19:37 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: ROBERT, ROBERT, ROBERT, GARY, GARY, GARY! (What was the visit like?)
MESSAGE: Robert,
If I am being nosey, just say so.
I was wondering however what the visit was like? I bet that she was shocked at how someone was interested in her old machines. I would have loved to have been there. Just to talk about much life was washed in those machines, and hear what her stories were.
What a neat experence. I love the fact that everyone here shares such cool life experences. Wonderful!
Thanks
Brent
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Post# 20305-7/25/2002-20:08 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: NEWSFLASH - Here We Go Again!!!
MESSAGE: My 65 Rapidry has the deep action agitator, but I remember that our neighbor had a Frigidaire with a blue agitator that was somewhat different. Perhaps it was the one you are talking about. Anyone got a picture.
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Post# 20306-7/25/2002-20:34 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: NEWSFLASH - Here We Go Again!!!
MESSAGE: Hi Bruce, no in '65, the custom deluxe models only had the 710rpm spin, this is machine is not a rapidry. Of course even at 710 rpm it was still faster than any other washer brand until recently.
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Post# 20307-7/25/2002-20:36 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Restoration /Consoles
MESSAGE: Try Simichrome for the chrome, it the lettering is inset, I usually fill the entire area with paint, and then very carefully swipe the top of the button with my finger to wipe away the excess.
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Post# 20308-7/25/2002-20:37 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: NEWSFLASH - Here We Go Again!!!
MESSAGE: Nope, this is a '64 model year dryer as the BOL models used nearly the same styling as the '63.
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Post# 20309-7/25/2002-20:38 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: NEWSFLASH - Here We Go Again!!!
MESSAGE: Hi Leslie, yes this is a gas dryer.
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Post# 20310-7/25/2002-20:39 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: NEWSFLASH - Here We Go Again!!!
MESSAGE: The 1965 line was the first year that came with Deep Action Agitator.
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Post# 20311-7/25/2002-20:44 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: ROBERT, ROBERT, ROBERT, GARY, GARY, GARY! (What was the visit like?)
MESSAGE: Yes today when we were there picking up the washer and dryer today I asked here about the repair history of the set. Both only had one repair, the dryer about 20 years ago when the pilot light had trouble staying lit and the washer had only one repair when the timer motor stopped about 15 years ago. Talk about a combination of quality and taking good care of your machines. She said she was worried about this new modern stuff, she heard that she should expect a repair after only 3 years.
I also asked her about what was in the house before the Frigidaire set came. She said when they moved in 1963 the house came with an 20 year old Easy Spindryer washer. She said "I washed a lot of diapers in that Easy, then hung them to dry in the back yard". She is such a nice lady and it was very fun talking to her.
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Post# 20312-7/25/2002-20:47 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: The Turquoise Set is Home
MESSAGE: Well the set is safely tucked away in the garage now. Out on the driveway I took the washer for a test run and it works just perfectly! Check out this and don't forget to scroll all the way down to the bottom of this picture as its a long one...
I know someone out there is going to be very happy with this beautiful washer, and possibly the dryer too...
LINK: http://www.classicappliances.com/TEMP/TurqInside.jpg
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Post# 20313-7/25/2002-21:03 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: The Turquoise Set is Home (Set Home!!)
MESSAGE: Robert - This is what is called a real Exciting find
All Jetaction and ready to GOOOOOOOOOOO!!
Peter
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Post# 20314-7/25/2002-21:35 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: The Turquoise Set is Home
MESSAGE: A penny in the lid switch and she's off and running! You are right, for someone who has never had a Frigidaire, they will love this machine! I was absolutely head over heels in love with that '68 rollermatic I found, it was my first solid tub Frigidaire and I thought I'd found the "gold" key to happiness. ;-)
I'll bet your garage is looks a lot like mine now, will we both be scraping car windows come winter?
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Post# 20315-7/25/2002-21:42 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: The Turquoise Set is Home (Congratulations!!!!!)
MESSAGE: Congratulations Robert and everyone who have found some real treasures the past few weeks. July has been a good month!! Thanks so much for sharing the pictures and the story on its history Robert. Terry
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Post# 20316-7/25/2002-21:54 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention (Thank you)
MESSAGE: thanks Bruce, I just sent you an email, thanks for the welcome and would love to see your collection sometime.
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Post# 20317-7/25/2002-22:00 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Restoration /Consoles
MESSAGE: Bruce, there is a place in RI, I can find out where, that does chromium plating and/or chromium re-plating, is that what you mean? I know there is a place you can have surfaces re-porcelainized, as well. You may have to ship it out to have that done, not sure, I don't know how comfortable you would feel doing that...........there has to be a place in New England that does this, everything here is older than dirt, hahaha...........and there are restoration places everywhere.
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Post# 20318-7/25/2002-22:08 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: NEWSFLASH - Here We Go Again!!!
MESSAGE: What is the difference between "deep-action" and "jetcone"?
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Post# 20319-7/25/2002-22:11 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: The Turquoise Set is Home
MESSAGE: Nevermind, I can see the difference in the photos between "jet cone" and "deep action", i understand now
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Post# 20320-7/25/2002-22:17 ||| Rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: Thor Is Making a Duomatic!!!!
MESSAGE: I found a web page....www.specializedappliances.com.....
they show a duomatic made by Thor...what do you guys think??.....i havent seen a combination washer/dryer since the 1960's
LINK: http://www.specializedappliances.com
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Post# 20321-7/25/2002-22:22 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: The Turquoise Set is Home (very interested)
MESSAGE: Robert, I am totally interested if your seriously looking to put the washer up for adoption, please consider me in your list of I assume many wanting it. Thanks, -G
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Post# 20322-7/25/2002-22:27 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Thor Is Making a Duomatic!!!!
MESSAGE: The "drying system" seems to be similar to the 1958 Frigidaire Filtrator dryer I just bought. Very interesting. I always wondered why a washer and dryer all in one never lasted or took off. I always assume it was you can't mix water and electricity so to speak, obviously during the drying portion.
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Post# 20323-7/25/2002-22:42 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: 50's vintage Kitchen Aid I looked at today
MESSAGE: I looked at a I think mid-50's stainless steel front built-in Kitchen Aid dishwasher in CT this AM. The couple FIRMLY wants $250. for it based on that is what it sold for new. I offered $200. and no more which I thought was generous. He asked for $225. and I still stayed firm at $200. He said he would talk it over with his fiance and let me know in a few days by email. What do you guys think? I am so new and rather nieve to all this, I tried to follow my gut feeling. I tried it and the motor definately runs and seems to run relatively smooth and quiet but the hot water to it was shut off so I couldnt get it to fill. The only spray arm in the bottom is rusted and does not turn freely. The racks are in fair condition and the porcelain interior is fair to poor. Some rust, I think it should be reporcelainized if possible. The exterior is pretty cool and in very good condition, a good cleaning and polishing of the stainless steel and it will look almost new. Those old Kitchen Aid dishwashers made by Hobart were built very well. Who makes Kitchen Aid today? Is it Whirlpool?
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Post# 20324-7/25/2002-23:13 ||| bendix5 (oregon)
SUBJECT: RE: Thor Is Making a Duomatic!!!!
MESSAGE: This is very interesting to see Thor back in the US.
Bendix-Thor is popular in Australia. A good find. Since I like combo machines I will check them out.
LINK: http://www.bendixaust.com.au/
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Post# 20325-7/25/2002-23:23 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: The Turquoise Set is Home
MESSAGE: Oh Robert, that brings back such great childhoood memories!!!!!!!
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Post# 20326-7/25/2002-23:41 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Thor Is Making a Duomatic!!!!
MESSAGE: This is another machine produced in China.
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Post# 20327-7/25/2002-00:40 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 50's vintage Kitchen Aid I looked at today
MESSAGE: Do you know the model number?
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Post# 20328-7/25/2002-01:43 ||| mooney6au (Sydney, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Thor Is Making a Duomatic!!!! (Thor Duomatic in Australia)
MESSAGE: Thor have sold the Duomatic in Australia for some years. I have two friends who have one. One of them loves it and the other hates it. The big negative is that you can only wash and dry a small load of about 2.5 kg and with the wash tub being small relative to a dryer the clothes come out quite creased. If you just do a wash they hold about 6kg but to dry it you have to do it in batches. Meile do make a combination washer/dryer but I guess it has the same drawbacks.
Greg
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Post# 20329-7/25/2002-01:45 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Thor Is Making a Duomatic!!!!
MESSAGE: Hi! Bendix is a very popular brand in Australia but not very reliable. Thor came last and Bendix third last. GE came second last.
Plus at 1500 big ones one is better considereding a Bosch or an Asko for the same price. Or if one is on a tighter budget Whirlpool and LG make good front loaders for around the $1000 mark.
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Post# 20330-7/25/2002-01:47 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Thor Is Making a Duomatic!!!!
MESSAGE: Combos seem to be quite common in Europe.
Check out the range on sale at Comet.
LINK: http://www.comet.co.uk/cometbrowse/
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Post# 20331-7/26/2002-07:08 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: POD - Kenmore 70 series
MESSAGE: And how many of those washers have you seen in your life? HUNDREDS! Still, it's a Kenmore and I bet there's a gold RotoSwirl under the hood.
I remember when I was a kid, my parents took to me visit some people that they knew from a few years back. We were sitting outside talking and all of a sudden I heard a "Grind-click" come from the garage. It was calling out to me. I quickly looked up and said "What was that?" knowing exactly what that was. "Just the washer" the lady said. I was just getting ready to jump up to go see it when my mom gave me the "evil eye" (like all moms do). Fortunately, on our way out, we walked past the garage and I saw it: Today's POD!
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Post# 20332-7/26/2002-07:36 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: The Turquoise Set is Home
MESSAGE: Hi Robert
That agitator is the same one on my parents Frigidaire from the late sixties (69???) How late was it used in the USA?
Thanks
Chris
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Post# 20333-7/26/2002-07:45 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: The Turquoise Set is Home
MESSAGE: I can't, where can I see a pic of a "jet cone"?
Chris
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Post# 20334-7/26/2002-08:02 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: The Turquoise Set is Home (Jet Cone Pic)
MESSAGE: Here is a picture of the Jet Cone agitators that Peter removed from a few machines earlier in the month. The Jet Cone is much taller than the "Deep Action" agitator - due to the larger, deeper wash tub on the 1970-79 1-18 large capacity washers
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/vwp?.dir=/47+Bendix+Deluxe&.src=ph&.dnm=Pretty+little+maids+in+a+row.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/lst%3f%26.dir=/47%2bBendix%2bDeluxe%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 20335-7/26/2002-08:19 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat a good business opportunity? (off to the sandbox)
MESSAGE: What a great topic for the Applianceville sandbox!
LINK: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Applianceville-Sandbox/
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Post# 20336-7/26/2002-08:20 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat a recession-proof business?
MESSAGE: Only if you are ready for some hard work... Sandbox...
-ph
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Post# 20337-7/26/2002-08:22 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Used coin-op front-loader good for home use?
MESSAGE: You can still find 'mats with the Philco-Bendix design Dexter machines around. Other than that, there are still some Big-Boys and old Milnors about. Toploaders, only Maytag and GE have stood the test of time. If you are super lucky, you may find solid tub Speed Queens.
No, used coin-op equipment is generally not good for home use.
Sandbox...
-ph
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Post# 20338-7/26/2002-08:28 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: ROBERT, ROBERT, ROBERT, GARY, GARY, GARY! (the TRUTH behind home visits)
MESSAGE: Brent just LOVES to go with me and talk with the owners of the machines we are retrieving. He just a natural, people just open up to him and he learns so much more about them, while I'm just interested in getting the machine the hell out of there. Last time we went to get a machine, I got the machine, while Brent got phone numbers, email addresses, tips on the best places to go in town, invite to dinner, and an offer to father the next child (that part would be difficult, since the offer came from the guy).
;)
-ph
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Post# 20339-7/26/2002-08:32 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: The Turquoise Set is Home (Jet Cone Pic)
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg.
Does the Jet Cone have a rubber pulsator underneath, or is it all plastic?
Thanks
Chris.
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Post# 20340-7/26/2002-08:38 ||| Rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Thor Is Making a Duomatic!!!! (Thor Duomatic)
MESSAGE: hi greg....yes, i also wondered why the duomatics of the 1960's were not continued...ross
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Post# 20341-7/26/2002-08:40 ||| Rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: RE: 50's vintage Kitchen Aid I looked at today (KitchenAid/Whirlpool)
MESSAGE: hi greg.....since around 1986, kitchenaid has been manufactured by whirlpool.....and now whirlpool also makes roper...i was told that roper is downscale whirlpool whereas kenmore is a high end whirlpool......ross
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Post# 20342-7/26/2002-08:41 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 50's vintage Kitchen Aid I looked at today
MESSAGE: All depends on what it is Greg. If its a KD-10 it would definately be worth it, KD-12 possibly but it should be in good shape and very restorable then.
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Post# 20343-7/26/2002-08:42 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore 70 series
MESSAGE: Yes and how many of these do we still see at the sales, still. LOTS.
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Post# 20344-7/26/2002-08:44 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The Turquoise Set is Home
MESSAGE: The Deep Action was used from 1965-1969. I heard they experimented with that same agitator in a few 1-18s, but that didn't last very long.
In coin-op machines the Deep Action was first introduced late in 1962 as an experiment.
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Post# 20345-7/26/2002-08:46 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: LC-2 belt help needed
MESSAGE: Very late last night, I couldn't restrain myself, so with my bag of goodies from Home Depot, I got the Skinny Mini connected up. The washer unit is outside the cabinet so I can check everything out. I got the connections set up, gave the timer a turn, and -- nothing. Double checked and triple checked everything -- still nothing. Then I realized the lid was up on the cabinet, so the lid switch was activated. DOH!!! Closed the lid and tried again. The machine roared to life, agitubbing like there was no tomorrow! After about 30 seconds, a belt broke and the motor stopped. There is hope!
If anyone has a Laudry Center parts book, I need the part numbers -- and hopefully the generic belt size (like 2L210) -- for both drive belts and intermediate belts. And if any Frigidaire experts out there know a good way to substitute tool 14411 tension spring compresser with something else, please let me know! Gratzi!
-ph
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Post# 20346-7/26/2002-09:00 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: ROBERT, ROBERT, ROBERT, GARY, GARY, GARY! (Hum?)
MESSAGE: I did not notice.
: )
Brent
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Post# 20347-7/26/2002-09:04 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: LC-2 belt help needed (Fox Appliance Store)
MESSAGE: Peter,
Do you ever call Fox Appliance store for parts? They are quite large, and the last time that I was there and I commented on how many belts they had, they told me that the major stock of belts they had were for very old machines.
They may have them. Or be able to look them up for you.
They are located in Chamblee.
Brent
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Post# 20348-7/26/2002-09:36 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore 70 series
MESSAGE: Yes. The harvest is ripe. The Kenmores are in season.
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Post# 20349-7/26/2002-10:37 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: Ktch Aid Dshw - "I bought it!" (How do I ......?)
MESSAGE: Thanks to those who acknowledged and gave me feedback. Robert, I will find out if its a KD-10 or 12. Its a pretty cool looking machine. I hate to see it trashed. I feel I may be spending a little to much (not sure) but they met my offer of $200. so I will be picking that up soon, HOW AM I GOING TO DISCONNECT THE PLUMBING AND ELECTRICAL? IS IT DIFFICULT? IS THERE ANYTHING I SHOULD BE CAREFUL OF?
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Post# 20350-7/26/2002-11:53 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: The Turquoise Set is Home
MESSAGE: Hi Robert
What a beautiful set...the washer gods sure have been smiling upon you recently. It is heart warming to see such older machines in such mint condition as this one and also Peter's 56. It must be really exciting to walk down those basement steps in anticipation of what you are going to find. Now...as long as you are on a winning streak here, please go out and find a 55 Imperial...haha!! :-)
Rich
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Post# 20351-7/26/2002-12:33 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore 70 series (Jason and Unimatic.....)
MESSAGE: I know I have seen a quite a few of them here in Washington, D. C. back in the day myself. That was a popular washer here in D. C. In fact, our 1967 Model 600 looked just like the 1971 Model 70 that is today's POD. Only difference being our Model 600 had a black "Straight Vane" agitator, and the metal waterfall filter. But it also had bleach and fabric softener dispensers and an off-balance switch/buzzer. But boy, what a washer it was. But still, I liked my great aunt's 1966 Lady K a lot better.
And nonetheless, IT STILL A KENMORE!!!!!! And don't you ever doubt it. :)
Oh, and Jason..... when are you going to take delivery of that 1972 Lady Kenmore that PeterH is finishing up for you??? I'm dying to know if that "Quiet Pak" construction has made the 1972 LK into a quiet washer. And, by the way, she's gorgeous. She just looks radiant in gold. Especially with that panel lighted up.
--Charles--
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Post# 20352-7/26/2002-13:00 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: KtchAid Dshw, nevermind, I declined..........
MESSAGE: I decided not to buy it. I am being to impulsive and as neat as this machine appears, I want to hold out for something cooler, especially whereas I will be attending the convention in a couple weeks. The bummer is its probably going to get junked.
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Post# 20353-7/26/2002-13:16 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: WOW!
MESSAGE: Jetcone, Can you send me some pictures of your easy spirilator washer i love that agitator!
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Post# 20354-7/26/2002-14:40 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: KtchAid Dshw, nevermind, I declined..........
MESSAGE: Don't worry Greg, there will be plenty of dishwashers down the road to get excited about, and priced more along the lines of $25-50, where they should be!
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Post# 20355-7/26/2002-15:41 ||| surgilator (North Hykeham, UK)
SUBJECT: Phot album updated
MESSAGE: Hey all,
I know this hasn't really got anything to do with CLASSIC appliances, but I'm just posting to say that I've uploaded my photo albums and have added scans from my Hotpoint manuals, and also a few product brochures; so far I've loaded 1995 and 2002 AEG brochures, the 2002 Maytag brochure, the 2002 Asko brochure and the Miele honeycomb flyer.
Hope you enjoy reading all this stuff; at the moment I'm uploading all the AEG brochures from 1995 onwards.
See ya
Jon
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/surgilatoruk
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Post# 20356-7/26/2002-15:42 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Restoration /Consoles
MESSAGE: Thanks Robert,
Where do you get Simichrome?. Hardware store?. Crafts shop?.
Thanks again
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Post# 20357-7/26/2002-15:55 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: ROBERT, ROBERT, ROBERT, GARY, GARY, GARY! (the TRUTH behind home visits)
MESSAGE: LOLOLOL
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Post# 20358-7/26/2002-16:02 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: The Turquoise Set is Home (Jet Cone Pic)
MESSAGE: These agitators had a rubber activator ring at the very bottom which created most of the rollover action in the machine . If you look at a 3 ring agitator in pre-65' machines you can see the ring clearly, but on the later designs it was covered somewhat by the hard plstic rings above it.
I hope I explained ok.
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Post# 20359-7/26/2002-18:19 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Restoration /Consoles
MESSAGE: Yes, you can also find it at antique stores too. It's expensive, but it works great.
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Post# 20360-7/26/2002-19:17 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Used coin-op front-loader good for home use?
MESSAGE: I'm no expert on this, but I believe those Wascomats have several drawbacks for home use:
1) Age/wear. If they are 20-25 years old, they are on their last legs. Laundromat machines get almost continuous use so they will wear out accordingly.
2) Bolt down. They don't have internal suspensions, so they need to be bolted down to a concrete floor.
3) Drainage. If they don't have a drain pump, they will need a drain at or below floor level.
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Post# 20361-7/26/2002-21:26 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: The Turquoise Set is Home
MESSAGE: Or a WCI58 and DCI58. Turqoise or Sunny Yellow will do.
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Post# 20362-7/26/2002-21:31 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: ROBERT, ROBERT, ROBERT, GARY, GARY, GARY! (the TRUTH behind home visits)
MESSAGE: Brent, you wild man you. Can't wait to meet ya.
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Post# 20363-7/26/2002-22:04 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: KtchAid Dshw, nevermind, I declined.......... (thnx)
MESSAGE: Thanks, that does make me feel better.
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Post# 20364-7/26/2002-22:32 ||| steved (Albany, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: KtchAid Dshw, nevermind, I declined.......... (hew fellow northerner)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg,Im in Albany NY, not too far away from Worcester. I know this since going back & gorth to Holy Cross for the last 4 yrs.....enjoy the club!!!! SteveD
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Post# 20365-7/26/2002-00:17 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore 70 series (Quiet Pak)
MESSAGE: I used to see a new 1970 Lady in action. It was so quiet you had to be right up on it to tell for sure it was in operation. Even the famous whine was muted to almost nonexistence.
What I myself have been wondering is if the sound deadening material has held up over the years - I am hoping the Quiet Pak Plus on my 1997 KM washer and dryer will keep them both whisper quiet for decades to come.
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Post# 20366-7/26/2002-00:19 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore 70 series (Sears Sale Catalogs)
MESSAGE: I used to *love* when those catalogs came in the mail -- what fun to see the appliances that were on sale!
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Post# 20367-7/26/2002-00:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: LC-2 belt help needed
MESSAGE: Your lid-up story reminds me of that brown Speed Queen I had for a short time (the perpetually suds-locked coppertone model.) I brought it home and having been told it wasn't pumping water properly, was not surprised to find that diagnosis to be true. I painstakingly drained the outer tub, changed the pump and it still wouldn't drain. After an hour, I finally looked behind the washer and saw the drain hose was kinked/pinched closed the whole time! Double DOH!!
Your belt-set part numbers are:
Tub Drive belt set - 634913 Agitate drive belt set - 634914
I don't know if the Frigidaire part numbers will do much good, you might have to take the old ones into a hardware or automotive store to have them matched with new ones. I've done this many times with all brands.
The link is to a picture of a spring compressor at a tool store online. I found lots of spring tools (expanders and compressors) by doing a search on Google.com. I'm not sure what exactly you need, but I would think you should be able to find something that will work.
LINK: http://www.handsontools.com/store/show_product/?product_id=23886
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Post# 20368-7/27/2002-03:32 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore 70 series (Quiet Pak)
MESSAGE: Well, PeterH has my future LK running in his laundry room. Is the Quiet Pak still there?
My mom's Kenmore 800 didn't have quiet pak as it was pretty loud.
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Post# 20369-7/27/2002-08:22 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: WM11 interior
MESSAGE: Here are some more pix of the inside of the Frigidaire WM11
Chris
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Post# 20370-7/27/2002-08:24 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: WM11 interior (this one has a link...)
MESSAGE: Sorry, I do that all the time, don't I...
LINK: http://uk.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gizmo_au63/vwp?.dir=/Frigidaire+WM11&.src=ph&.dnm=agitator+before+repair.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//uk.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gizmo_au63/lst%3f%26.dir=/Frigidaire%2bWM11%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 20371-7/27/2002-08:28 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: WM11 interior (this one has a link...)
MESSAGE: That looks fun! So does that agitator pulsate twice as fast as the regular Frigidaire?
Being a manual control washer, you could just let it pulsate for a long time for a heavily soiled load.
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Post# 20372-7/27/2002-08:35 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore 70 series (Portable Lady K)
MESSAGE: I don't know if my portable has quiet pak or not. It's a belt drive Kenmore but it doesn't whine. It hums loud though. The plastic outer tub resonates the hum through the whole machine. If you listen REALLY close when it's finished pumping the water and the air is rushing through the pump ("whhooosssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhh"), You can hear a very small hint of a whine but that's about it.
I seem to remember seeing a 1974ish ugly Kenmore (I really hate to say that but they were) that must've had the Quiet Pak because all I could hear was a slight hum and water splashing. I was tempted to lift the lid but once again my mom's evil eye came my way (witch).
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Post# 20373-7/27/2002-09:11 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: WM11 interior (this one has a link...)
MESSAGE: Hi Jason.
I'm not really familiar with other Frigidaires, but Uni mentioned that Pulsamatics have only a 3/4 inch stroke and others have a longer (1-1/2 inch?) stroke. Mine definitely has a 3/4 inch stroke, and it does seem to pulsate really fast, I couldn't imagine it plunging away any faster. With about the right size load, you can really notice the clothes moving in little individual surges. Or I should say pulses. Yes, being manual control I could leave it pulsating away all day, till the batteries go flat... Actually it washes very well, I don't need to leave anything washing for long. And some of my building clothes get seriously dirty. The spin is pretty poor, though. I spin everything again in the Asko or the F&P. The Frigidaire is the most fun, but if I want clothes to dry quickly, they need a better spin.
Chris.
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Post# 20374-7/27/2002-09:24 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: WM11 interior (batteries?)
MESSAGE: The machine runs on DC? Or is it you run your house off of batteries and a DC/AC converter? Just curious. Just about all of the washing machines here in the states are 110vAC.
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Post# 20375-7/27/2002-11:31 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore 70 series (Sears Sale Catalogs)
MESSAGE: Yeah, I miss those old days. My grandparents got the Spring and Fall general catalogs, and the Christmas Wish Book. The arrival of those, plus the periodic sale catalogs you mentioned was quite an event for me.
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Post# 20376-7/27/2002-12:04 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore 70 series (Portable Lady K)
MESSAGE: Yeah, my 1991 direct-drive portable did the same thing. Quite loud.
I remember seeing literature around '72, maybe in a Sears catalog, that described the sound deadening material, but I cant recall. I dont remember it being the same stuff used nowadays, the thin rubbery material covered with a layer of conventional fiberglass that modern-day dishwashers use. The last time I was inside the cabinet of my KM, I believe I saw a heavy-grade fiberglass, very thick.
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Post# 20377-7/27/2002-12:12 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore 70 series (Toys & Washers)
MESSAGE: I remember my grandparent's collection of Sears Spring, Fall, sale, and Wish Books. And the best were the sale books. I don't have any vintage ones but the one I have matches my frontloader so that is definitely POD material 20 years from now. Today's Sears catalog is non-existant and there's a small wish book that still comes out.
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Post# 20378-7/27/2002-14:11 ||| dalangdon (Seattle, WA)
SUBJECT: Fabulous Westinghouse Set!
MESSAGE: Hey Everybody,
The man and I were out estate sailing and found a really amazing Westinghouse washer and dryer set. they are both front loaders with glass windows. The washing machine says "laundromatte" on the window and the dryer says "clothes dryer" on the window (and is only 110volt). They are almost like the ones in the video here on the site with Lucy, Desi, etc, but the windows are round instead of angled. The most amazing this is that they both work!
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Post# 20379-7/27/2002-17:55 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore 70 series (Sears Sale Catalogs)
MESSAGE: Overhere twice a year the "Wehkamp" catalogue came out. It was a very thick full color catalogue and I always layed on the floor with it to study the washers in it. My grandmother really understood my hobby and always told me when the new catalogue was there.
Louis
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Post# 20380-7/27/2002-21:17 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore 70 series (Sears Sale Catalogs)
MESSAGE: Me too, but I'd generallly just look at the washer, dryer, & dishwasher pages (and a part of the men's section LOL)
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Post# 20381-7/27/2002-21:18 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Fabulous Westinghouse Set!
MESSAGE: Dan, nice to cya postin' here. Have missed you. So, is this pair gonna be westing at your house???
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Post# 20382-7/27/2002-00:17 ||| dalangdon (Seattle, WA)
SUBJECT: RE: Fabulous Westinghouse Set!
MESSAGE: It's nice to be back - I've actually acquired quite a few things recently - besides the w/d, I've also got a 1950-something Coldspot chest freezer and a Frigidaire Flair Range. We've been experiencing a lot of movement in the neighborhood as the older folks cash in on their houses and the new yuppies discard their old appliances. The Flair was on a curb, for God's sake!
He needs the Westies more than I do, but I admit I'm considering giving him my new W/D just for the campiness of them, but I think saner minds will prevail. For one thing, I think the washer is missing a soap dispensor or something, and the dryer has about 4.5 million lint traps (ok, it has at least two) and doesn't seem to want to vent anywhere. And I'm a little squeamish about a dryer with a two prong plug that runs on 110 volts.
But then again, if it was good enough for Lucy and Ethel........
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Post# 20383-7/28/2002-11:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: WM11 interior (this one has a link...)
MESSAGE: You got that right Chris, the Pulsamatic was GM Frigidaire's slowest spinning full size washer. Only 630rpm. When I wash in the Pulsamatic I usually spin things out in the Unimatic before drying.
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Post# 20384-7/28/2002-11:04 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Fabulous Westinghouse Set!
MESSAGE: Hey congrats on the fun find Dan! What is the model # of the washer?
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Post# 20385-7/28/2002-11:05 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Fabulous Westinghouse Set!
MESSAGE: The soap dispenser isn't missing on your westy Dan, it never had one. You simply pour the detergent on top of the washload right before starting the machine.
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Post# 20386-7/28/2002-11:08 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Yesterday's sales
MESSAGE: There were a lot of fun estate sales around here too yesterday. I saw a washer brand I had never heard of before called Ambasador. Its simply a TL Westy design of the 60's, but it was neat to see. In another house there was the matching dryer to my Norge Time Washer!
Here is one big long picture of those machines, scroll all the way down to see everything...
LINK: http://www.classicappliances.com/TEMP/Sales-7-27-02.jpg
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Post# 20387-7/28/2002-11:50 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Fabulous Westinghouse Set!
MESSAGE: Very cool find - how was the door boot on the washer? Any idea what year these machines were?
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Post# 20388-7/28/2002-11:51 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Yesterday's sales
MESSAGE: Did you buy the boxes of ALL detergent next to the washer? They didn't look real vintage, but they were still the old formula - a favorite scent too!
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Post# 20389-7/28/2002-14:11 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Yesterday's sales
MESSAGE: Yeah right, the boxes of All. But what about that dryer???? A matching Norge set, wouldn't that be great?
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Post# 20390-7/28/2002-14:23 ||| Activator (Tulsa, OK)
SUBJECT: Kelvinator agitators
MESSAGE: Years ago, I had a sky blue Leonard/Kelvinator agitator as a conversation piece. I'd love to get another one, even if I can't get the whole machine (!) Any ideas?
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Post# 20391-7/28/2002-14:30 ||| liveforartman (Tulsa, OK)
SUBJECT: Boy, do I feel dumb!
MESSAGE: I just realized that I have joined Applianceville TWICE, once as liveforartman, and again as activator (my agitator's name, as it happens.) Can anyone explain to me how to "unjoin" ONE of those names? After all, how many screen names does an appliance lover need??? Thanks...
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Post# 20392-7/28/2002-14:32 ||| liveforartman (Tulsa, OK)
SUBJECT: wallpaper
MESSAGE: By the way...is there any way to use this wallpaper on my PC monitor? It would make a nice contrast to the pink 1959 Chrysler Imperial pictured there now. Yep...I like old cars, too, and the busier the dashboard, the better.
Thanks....
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Post# 20393-7/28/2002-15:03 ||| jetaction (Minnepolis)
SUBJECT: Found one of my dream machines!
MESSAGE: I joined a month ago, and had to decide what my dream finds would be. For me it was the 65 L-Kenmore set. Found out Jason had the exact set, and he sent me pics to help me identify. Yesterday at an estate sale in Anoka, I found the exact dryer. It is in beautiful shape, with everything working on it. Stairs became an issue for the homeowner so it hasn't been used in many years. The vent was rerouted to the kitchen to use he new stackable set. For some reason it was hardwired to the box, which was easy to unhook. Since the vents had been open for years there was a huge amount of lint and dust where it was disconnected, as well as two dead chipmunks-half decomposed-Yuk! The machine has the air freshener bottle, but I would need a gallon to combat that smell. The good news is that they just lived in the u-shaped vent. I have washed and scrubbed the opening, and it is almost all gone. I am so excited, and look forward to finding the matching washer.
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Post# 20394-7/28/2002-16:31 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Yesterday's sales (Oh Robert, THANK YOU!!!)
MESSAGE: Robert, I've missed your sale pics. I know it was a lot of work and you felt under-appreciated, but it wa always the highlight of my weekend. That norge dryer was incredibly gorgeous. Brought back memories of our's, not of the luxury line, but still so similar. Reminded me of my mom's rule, NEVER set the line beyond 45 minutes. If load couldn't be dried by that time, it got draped around the family room until dry. Rule held fast up through the 64 norge pair, the added kenmore 800, and the late 70s GE pair. Mom did not start using Auto Dry until her 1995 Maytag Electronic control dryer and me finally pervailing on her thrify nature of drying clothes on auto-dry was far less expensive than guessing time.
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Post# 20395-7/28/2002-16:40 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Found one of my dream machines!
MESSAGE: Congratulations DON!!!! Yay
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Post# 20396-7/28/2002-16:45 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Boy, do I feel dumb!
MESSAGE: Mark, welcome to the club. I'd love to hear if you have any vintage cars also. CAn email me (in my profile) if you want to. Bob
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Post# 20397-7/28/2002-16:51 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Yesterday's sales (Oh Robert, THANK YOU!!!)
MESSAGE: In fact Robert6, I'm so excited about seeing pics again, I may have to bake you & neal a cake (how'd ja do, how'd ja do, how''d ja do!!!).
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Post# 20398-7/28/2002-18:06 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: RE: Found one of my dream machines!
MESSAGE: Congrats on your find Don. So excitied for you. I think I might have owners manuals for your machines, I will sort thru all my stuff and let you know. Jimmy
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Post# 20399-7/28/2002-18:07 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: RE: wallpaper (Old Appliances, Old Cars,)
MESSAGE: I have vintage cars also Mark, to go along with my appliances. Are you are car fan too? Jimmy
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Post# 20400-7/28/2002-18:56 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: LC-2 belt help needed (Thanks!)
MESSAGE: Thanks, Greg! You are a peach.
-ph
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Post# 20401-7/28/2002-18:58 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore 70 series (Quiet Pak)
MESSAGE: Momma didn't tell me about no Quiet Pak, so was it really around in 1972? I can say that the belt is smooth, rather than cogged, and that makes a big difference. There is no insulation in the cabinet.
-ph
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Post# 20402-7/28/2002-19:14 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: It's always something
MESSAGE: Yesterday, Steve and Rhinnie came by for lunch and appliance work. He picked up the new bellows for the Unimatic, and we got them installed. Went to test it and it still leaked!!! Then, adding insult to injury, the torque spring died!!! So close yet so far on both the Laundry Center and the Unimatic...
-ph
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Post# 20403-7/28/2002-19:15 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Yesterday's sales
MESSAGE: I would not have been able to bypass the Timeline dryer. I hope you did get 4 new boxes of classic formula ALL for the collection...
-ph
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Post# 20404-7/28/2002-19:34 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Yesterday's sales
MESSAGE: Robert, what great photos!! Interesting looking machine, that Ambassador. I had never heard of it either until recently while thumbing through an old womens' magazine and this machine was featured in an ad for Tide. BTW, were the boxes of "All" detergent for sale??
That Norge dryer was incredible. A matching Time Line set would be perfect!!! Did you get anything??
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Post# 20405-7/28/2002-19:38 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Found one of my dream machines!
MESSAGE: Congratulations on the find - it is always wonderful when one of us finds our dream machines. I also remember the air freshener from our '69 Lady Kenmore dryer - kind of a bubble gum fragrance in the bottle, but it really didn't do much of anything.........
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Post# 20406-7/28/2002-23:52 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: Found one of my dream machines!
MESSAGE: So, what color is it? White, copper, or turquoise? What shape was the air freshener bottle in? I have heard of other club members finding old Kenmore dryers where the contents of the bottle had gone rancid, creating quite a stink.
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Post# 20407-7/28/2002-23:58 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Yesterday's sales
MESSAGE: Robert, the "Ambassador" brand was a Donaldson's house brand. I guess this was the week to see or find vintage washers from Donaldson's!
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Post# 20408-7/29/2002-07:00 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Yesterday's sales
MESSAGE: No I didn't buy the boxes of all, if the boxes have a UPC symbol, as those did I generally pass.
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Post# 20409-7/29/2002-07:03 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Boy, do I feel dumb!
MESSAGE: Only I can delete screen names Liveforatman, so just use the one you want and eventually I will get around to deleting unused names. It's a bit of a task, so I plan on doing it only once a year or so.
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Post# 20410-7/29/2002-07:04 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: wallpaper
MESSAGE: To save any picture you see here to your local hard drive, simply bring the mouse right over the center of the picture or object and right click and select "Save Picture As".
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Post# 20411-7/29/2002-07:07 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Found one of my dream machines! (How Wonderful!)
MESSAGE: How wonderful Don, what a great find! I know I seen that washer around before, so I'm sure in time we will find another for you. Is there a particular reasons for the 65 Lady Kenmore set being on your dream find list?
By the way, how did you move the dryer up the stairs, do you have an appliance dolly?
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Post# 20412-7/29/2002-07:09 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Yesterday's sales
MESSAGE: Hi Louis, no I let the Norge dryer go. Since I'm max-out space wise now I must pick and choose carefully. Anything new that comes in, something already down in the basement has to go. And while it would be great to have the matched set, there is just no room for another dryer.
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Post# 20413-7/29/2002-07:12 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: It's always something
MESSAGE: Oh well, its probably best to give that mechanism a restore first before using it anyway. It's really not that hard to do. The timing of the breaking of the toque spring is odd, it could be that it had already been broken.
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Post# 20414-7/29/2002-07:14 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Yesterday's sales
MESSAGE: Yes the All was marked $2 a piece and I let both the All and the dryer go. Otherwise we'll need a shovel to get into my basement, LOL. :)
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Post# 20415-7/29/2002-07:14 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Yesterday's sales
MESSAGE: Ah that makes sense, thank's Scott. I'm surprised I haven't seen more Abamassador Appliances then.
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Post# 20416-7/29/2002-07:57 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Found one of my dream machines!
MESSAGE: The chipmunks will make for good story telling when you show off your new find to visitors. Keep searching, I'm sure you'll find the matching washer, hopefully as quickly as you found the dryer!
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Post# 20417-7/29/2002-08:00 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore 70 series (Quiet Pak)
MESSAGE: I had a warranty service call on a new KM dryer I had for a short time once and he just laughed when I asked about the Quiet Pak insulation. He thought it was just sales fluff.
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Post# 20418-7/29/2002-08:02 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: It's always something
MESSAGE: But you have them both - that's still a huge step ahead of just wishing for them! I'm sure you'll have them restored and running in no time at all now....
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Post# 20419-7/29/2002-08:05 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Yesterday's sales
MESSAGE: Ah, so that explains my garage!
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Post# 20420-7/29/2002-08:17 ||| Jetaction (Minnepolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Found one of my dream machines! (65 Lady Kenmore Dryer)
MESSAGE: Thanks for all posts about my 65 Lady Kenmore dryer! The dryer is white, and I have set these as my dream machines as the washer was one our neighbors had when I was small. They never had the dryer. Being fascinated by buttons, lights and dials, this was washer heaven! (compared to our wringer with one knob and a lever)The four girls that lived next door came to my surprise 40th birthday last September and participated in "roasting" me. They told how I used to love to do laundry, and would come over and wash their clothes. At about 10 years old I pointed out that the agitator cap was really a measuring cup for soap-not even their Mom knew it came off! The air freshener bottle looks as though it is brand new. They don't make this anymore do they? It has some fragerence left in it, and it has not gone bad, but I can take or leave the smell of it. What could a person use-essential oils? You see lots of lavendar scented products for ironing these days-maybe that would be nice. I used a two wheel dolly to move the dryer, I found that at a sale one too. Yes indeed the chipmunks will make for good storytelling. My good friend Linda (the farmgirl) actually took them out of the air vents, while I went and asked if I had to pay extra for the critters. I have to admit I am glad she did the dirty deed, and am taking her to dinner this week as a thank you!
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Post# 20421-7/29/2002-08:55 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: WM11 interior (batteries?)
MESSAGE: Hi Jason.
My house is solar powered, so we have a 24 volt DC battery bank, an an inverter which converts the DC to 240v AC, the normal household voltage on this bit of the planet.
The inverter is about at its limit starting the Frigidaire, but once started it runs fine. On cloudy days I would tend to run the back-up generator at the same time as the Frigidaire to preserve the charge in the batteries. I do the same with the Asko, the F&P uses so little power I don't have to worry.
Chris.
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Post# 20422-7/29/2002-09:07 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Yesterday's sales (TL Westy)
MESSAGE: Hi Robert.
Those TL westy machines were sold here too, manufactured by Email in Australia. (Still badged as a Westinghouse)
Are they any good? Are they the same as the ones that displaced "Proper Frigidaires" after the take-over?
I did up a similar machine to that one a few years ago, it just needed a new spin bearing and seal which was an unnecessarily hard and messy job, from memory I had to drain the transmission and pull it apart. It now washes horse blankets for my brother-in-law, who is a racehorse trainer.
Chris
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Post# 20423-7/29/2002-09:21 ||| activator (Tulsa, OK)
SUBJECT: RE: wallpaper (Old Cars, Old Appliances)
MESSAGE: Absolutely! I love busy, over-stimulating dashboards, esp. the 1959 Pontiac and Buick w/monocle PNDLR indicator. Also quite partial to huge tail fins. In high school I applied cardboard "fins" spray painted to match my 1966 LTD. People talked...
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Post# 20424-7/29/2002-09:29 ||| activator (Tulsa, OK)
SUBJECT: RE: Boy, do I feel dumb! (Dual Identity Thing)
MESSAGE: OK, that's good...seems that an agitator name is much more appropriate than just my email screen nic, so activator I shall be. Incidentally, it is a great joy (and somewhat of a relief) to find that I am not so alone in being fascinated with washing machines. Would I ever love to attend a convention! Sounds like hog heaven. Thanks for creating/maintaining this unique community! - Mark
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Post# 20425-7/29/2002-10:48 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Yesterday's sales
MESSAGE: Oh, well Robert. I do understand the space constraints, but how sad that the Norge dryer was not possible. Any individual 50's Norge is so rare that the idea of a matched set in great condition seems like fate....................
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Post# 20426-7/29/2002-11:05 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Fabulous Westinghouse Set!
MESSAGE: What a great find, good for you, I love hearing these kind of stories.
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Post# 20427-7/29/2002-11:11 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Yesterday's sales
MESSAGE: Awesome Robert !! Those machines are wicked (new england expression) cool. I love the controls on the dryer and I never heard of Ambassador either. I am heading to Vermont for the rest of the week and hope to do some "estate sailing". I was looking in the "Boston Globe" and saw nothing?? Maybe I was looking in the wrong area.
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Post# 20428-7/29/2002-11:12 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Found one of my dream machines!
MESSAGE: Congratulations !!
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Post# 20429-7/29/2002-11:24 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: 50's Westinghouse Frig (my 2nd find, but I have questions)
MESSAGE: A friend of mine just bought a house in MAss and is giving to me a 1950's Westinghouse Refrigerator. I don't know exactly what year but its model DA-84. It appears most of you out here are primarily washer and dryer fans, but for those of you who like the other appliances just as much and can give me any feedback, that would be great. The woman who bought it paid $300 for it new. It seems to work fine BUT, the door handle gets "stuck" so that you can't open it on the first try. I am going to have to take that apart and find out why. The chrome piece above the toe plate is pretty banged up. Can this be "restored/replaced?" And the shine is gone on the finish? Any recommmendations? polishing compound?
Thank you, GregM
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Post# 20430-7/29/2002-11:34 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Yesterday's sales
MESSAGE: That's really sad, you might never come across a matching dryer again. Wouldn't it be able to store it in the attic?
Louis
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Post# 20431-7/29/2002-12:45 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Found one of my dream machines!
MESSAGE: This is wonderful Don, congratulations! As for the chipmunk, I would have handled it in the same manner as did you. Everyone needs a "Linda" in their life, for those kinds of purposes! ;-)
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Post# 20432-7/29/2002-12:50 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: Constructa "kochautomat"
MESSAGE: There is a Constructa kochautomat for sale on the German eBay site. This is the exact model our neighbours had. It can do real boilwashes. When washing whites it stopped at a certain moment and you could see the bubbles coming to the surface. It was one of the coolest washers I have ever seen. In the picture the details of the timer (on the left) are not really visible, but every increment is specified so you can always see exactly what the machine is doing. The pushbuttons are for the cycle selection. BTW, this machine is really heavy and it runs on 400 Volts. I'm very glad I at last found a picture of this machine.
Louis
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1753291630
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Post# 20433-7/29/2002-13:01 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore 70 series (Sears Sale Catalogs)
MESSAGE: ...especially when it was the annual home appliance event...in those instances the upper-end machines were always pictured for sale!
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Post# 20434-7/29/2002-13:04 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore 70 series (Quiet Pak)
MESSAGE: I can tell a difference between Quiet Pak and non-Quiet Pak, but it is more noticeable to me on the older machines than on the direct drive. Now they have Quiet Pak I, II and III. This one we have now has Quiet Pak I and is very quiet, and I had Quiet Pak III before but this doesn't seem any louder than that.
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Post# 20435-7/29/2002-13:05 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: WM11 interior (this one has a link...)
MESSAGE: What a wonderful machine, and what a great job you did repairing the top of the agitator!
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Post# 20436-7/29/2002-13:14 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore 70 series (Quiet Pak)
MESSAGE: The original Quiet Pak is notihng more than a smaller V belt, rubber mounted motor pulley and rubber motor mounts.
In the dryers and d/d washers the QP is sounds dampening rubber patches. The same ones that are used for sound insulation on automoblies. The washers also use a sound absorbing pad at the bottom of the machine.
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Post# 20437-7/29/2002-13:35 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore 70 series (Quiet Pak)
MESSAGE: Thanks Jason for that explanation! I am getting excited to finally meet you!
S
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Post# 20438-7/29/2002-15:12 ||| Frigemore (Chicago IL area)
SUBJECT: RE: It's always something
MESSAGE: Oh My, What a shame...
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Post# 20439-7/29/2002-16:21 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: It's always something (that s**ks)
MESSAGE: sorry to hear, well I am sure once you get it up and running it will be trouble free for a long time :) .
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Post# 20440-7/29/2002-16:21 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore 70 series (Quiet Pak)
MESSAGE: Rhonda Ram goes into the Dr's this week for some normal maintenance so she will be ready for the trip.
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Post# 20441-7/29/2002-17:09 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore 70 series (To Jasonl and PeterH.....)
MESSAGE: Yes, "Quiet Pak" was around in 1972. It had to be. Because in my F/W 1969 Sears Catalog, both the 1969 Lady Kenmore (the one with the colored keyboard console) and the #2 Model both had it. But to qualify that even further, the 1969 Lady Kenmore WAS the first one ever with "Quiet Pak" construction. What Sears claimed at the time was that it was "the quietest Lady Kenmore ever built". What they claimed they did was redo the suspension and use smoother belts and rubber pulleys to make it as quiet a machine as possible. They say that the machine is so quiet, you won't even hear it agitating. And spin noise has been reduced to a murmur.
Man, what a claim that was.
--Charles--
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Post# 20442-7/29/2002-19:34 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore 70 series (To Jasonl and PeterH.....)
MESSAGE: If you want to get that technical they also used rubber insulated centerpost bearings, but found that it was a failure and went back to the standard design.
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Post# 20443-7/29/2002-20:44 ||| ironrite (Las Vegas NV)
SUBJECT: RE: wallpaper (Cars and Appliance Site Pics)
MESSAGE: This is an interesting site for some very good scans of cars and appliances. Also some of just some great vintage ads. They do have some of the scans available as wallpaper. I'm also a car nut too, so I have a pic of the '56 Lincoln on my MAC desktop.
One of their scans shows a very odd attachment for a late 50's Lady Kenmore "hairdryer" attachment!
LINK: http://www.ephemeranow.com/
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Post# 20444-7/29/2002-20:48 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Boy, do I feel dumb! (Dual Identity Thing)
MESSAGE: Mark, as we say here then, "Y'all come!!!" to the convention.
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Post# 20445-7/29/2002-20:51 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: 50's Westinghouse Frig (my 2nd find, but I have questions)
MESSAGE: Greg, that's a "cool" find. OK, a-west me for my puns.
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Post# 20446-7/29/2002-20:52 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: wallpaper (Cars and Appliance Site Pics)
MESSAGE: I love that site! Here is a nice one of Tippi, and a GE range! :)
LINK: http://www.ephemeranow.com/life/life071.htm
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Post# 20447-7/29/2002-20:54 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore 70 series (Quiet Pak)
MESSAGE: Great, can't wait to meet bothyou & Rhonda, preferably in that order.
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Post# 20448-7/29/2002-21:56 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: wallpaper (I must have one!)
MESSAGE: Westinghouse, Easy, GE, Kitchen Aid, Frigidaire......so many neat ads with incredible artwork, many I have never seen before.
The 57 Lady Kenmore hair dryer attachment is a hoot!
Sniff, sniff.... "Mabel, you smell like laundry!"
Thanks for the link to this site, it was fun!
LINK: http://www.ephemeranow.com/life/life048.htm
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Post# 20449-7/29/2002-22:07 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Scott's Visit to Omaha
MESSAGE: This weekend Scott came down for a visit and some washer play. It's been over a year since Scott was here and much has changed in the collection so we had fun playing with a lot of the new machines. We hit a few estate sales and a couple of antique stores on Saturday and then Scott's new friend stopped in on his way back to St. Paul from Denver and got a crash course in vintage laundry Saturday night at our mini wash-in. Sunday we tried to squeeze a Hoover twin-tub washer in Scott's and Al's car, but it just wouldn't fit so all Scott could take home now was the pump he'll need to find for it and I'll bring the rest of the washer up to Minneapolis in September. We had a fun weekend and it was very nice to meet Al, a very friendly and nice person. Thanks again for a nice weekend Scott, it was fun having you and Al!
Apparently, I only took one picture all weekend, but Scott was snapping a few so I'm sure he'll have more to post.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/New+pics&.src=ph&.dnm=Scott+and+Al.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/New%2bpics%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 20450-7/29/2002-22:51 ||| Sdavenp1 (Edmonton, Canada)
SUBJECT: Help in determining the age of a refrigerator
MESSAGE:
Hi..hoping someone can help me. I was recently given a deepfreeze refrigerator and was told it's from the 1950's but would like to confirm. Does anyone know of any online sites/resource that can help?
I have the make, model and serial number (Deepfreeze/Motor Products Corp, F10 T2, 115866).
thanks in advance,
Stewart Davenport.
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Post# 20451-7/29/2002-00:50 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Scott's Visit to Omaha (Thank you Greg! (More Pictures))
MESSAGE: Greg, Allen and I had an absolutely wonderful time visiting you this weekend. Thank you as always for being such a wonderful and gracious host. It was wonderful to see you and Skyler and everyone again, and fun to see how your wonderful collection has evolved, and to enjoy the machines! I will look forward to the Hoover making the trip up in September, and hopefully my UK pals will be able to hook me up with the proper parts!
I got to see a Calypso machine in action for the first time, a machine I was actually more impressed with than I ever thought I would be. It's fun to observe, and it damp dries quite well (now why can't they make the regular Sears machines spin at 850??) The Kelvinator is just great, as are our old friends the Frigidaires! The Speed Queen pair will just take your breath away, it is so beautiful.
You will also see in the pictures a neat promotional scale put out by the Norge company, and an interesting story is we decided to weigh a load of clothes we placed in the W0-65, which apparently holds 9 pounds. The random load Greg placed in the machine weighed exactly 9 pounds!
Al is very supportive of and has shown a lot of interest in my hobby. He was raised in a wringer washer/no dryer household and has really only used coin-ops in his adult life, so a lot of this is all very new and I think he enjoys learning and he appreciates and was fascinated by the beautiful vintage machines. He is a bit perplexed by the twin tub Hoover and doesn't really get how it works or why it has two sections, so I'm looking forward to demonstrating it. He enjoys perusing literature, and I found him a couple of times scoping out some of the many appliance books and repair manuals Greg keeps on shelves in the guest room. I did his laundry for him for the very first time in the 1-18, and he was very impressed with the immaculately clean stack of clothes I gave him, folded of course with military precision. ;-)
Greg's beautiful sunny yellow GE dryer does a great job of high speed drying in the garage, and what a great way to keep the house cool in summer, and the garage warmer in winter! We also dried a load in the Speed Queen and a couple in one of my favorite dryers, the pushbutton Maytag. It's just so easy, and everything comes out perfect, every time.
Enjoy the pictures and thanks again Greg for a wonderful weekend!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/happyhotpoint/lst?.dir=/Omaha+July+2002&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/
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Post# 20452-7/30/2002-06:22 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Scott's Visit to Omaha (Thank you Greg! (More Pictures))
MESSAGE: What fab pictures Scott!! Looks like you had a grand time with lots of "good clean fun"...... Greg, your machines are truly beautiful - especially love the Kelvinator. It came out first rate.
I recently saw that Norge scale for auction on ebay. I don't remember how much, but I thought it most unusual.
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Post# 20453-7/30/2002-06:25 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: Today's POD
MESSAGE: Great POD - I was especially surprised to see that the Norges came in pink, yellow and mint green as well as white. I mean, any Norge Time Line is rare. Can you imagine how our appliance world would shake if someone could unearth one of those or a Philco Miss America in color (I believe those came in pink, turquoise and copper brown)??
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Post# 20454-7/30/2002-06:27 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: wallpaper (Old car nut here too!!)
MESSAGE: Hey Jimmy,
Just wanted to say "hi" and that I am a old car buff too. There is a big antique car show in Stowe, VT the 8th, 9th and 10th of Aug. I believe. I will be there. -GregM
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Post# 20455-7/30/2002-06:30 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: 50's Westinghouse Frig (my 2nd find, but I have questions) (thanks!)
MESSAGE: Thanks and very funny........
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Post# 20456-7/30/2002-06:51 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD (ummmmmmmm, What?)
MESSAGE: What is a Philco Miss America? What does it look like?
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Post# 20457-7/30/2002-07:15 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: POD - Suds saver
MESSAGE: How does an "automatic" suds saver work, like in today's POD Norge? Does the machine have an internal tub that holds the suds water? How does it know to drain the rinse water and keep the suds water? Thanks.
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Post# 20458-7/30/2002-07:38 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: Car Fans and Appliance Fans
MESSAGE: Glad to hear so many guys like cars as well as appliances in this group! I have several old cars as well as appliances, They are my Life! When you guys get a chance, check out this link. Its the car club I belong to, and have met so many wonderful other friends thru........
LINK: www.lambdacarclub.net
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Post# 20459-7/30/2002-07:44 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Car Fans and Appliance Fans
MESSAGE: I love old cars. I had a 64 VW Beetle and it was fun to fix and drive. I learned how to rebuild the engine and work on the brakes. My next "toy" will be a motorcycle. A Suzuki Volusia 800 (I like that model number).
Kenmore HE3t Harley-Davison Edition
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Post# 20460-7/30/2002-07:46 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: wallpaper (very cool!!)
MESSAGE: love those old ads.........
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Post# 20461-7/30/2002-07:53 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Scott's Visit to Omaha (Thank you Greg! (More Pictures))
MESSAGE: You (and Al) are most welcome! It was a pleasure having you both and I'm glad you had a great time.
I'm also glad that you took more pictures - I can't believe I only took one!
Good luck with the parts for the Hoover, I will try to post a couple of pictures of the washer so everyone can see what you are working on finding parts for.
G
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Post# 20462-7/30/2002-07:57 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: Car Club Link......
MESSAGE: Sorry the link didnt work. Try this:
www.lambdacarclub.net
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Post# 20463-7/30/2002-07:58 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD
MESSAGE: That is one of my favorite ads - very colorful, and of course the subject is outstanding!
Any of the pastel colors seem to be rather rare, but a Timeline in mint green would certainly make a splash!
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Post# 20464-7/30/2002-08:02 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD (Philco Miss America)
MESSAGE: This was a model of Philco (Philco-Bendix) washer and dryer in the early 60's. You can see a picture of one in the Wanted-Reward section of the club. This washer was like Robert's Philco Automagic top-loading washer, it had the flapping disc agitator. I brought a 1960 Miss America washer back from the SD farm last month, but the panel was broken and sun faded so I won't have the "Miss America" on a better panel I took from another machine. I may have to make a decal so it won't be completely lost!
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Post# 20465-7/30/2002-08:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Car Fans and Appliance Fans
MESSAGE: Thanks for the link Jimmy - there are some beautiful cars in the club, but I didn't see any of yours in the gallery! I may have to come out there and spend the weekend taking pictures of cars and appliances to start your photo album!
Give me a call soon - Greg
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Post# 20466-7/30/2002-08:29 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Car Club Link......
MESSAGE: My son is a car buff and has a collection of ads from the 50's and 60's going that I have taken from magazines as I'm pulling appliance & detergent ads from them. His favorites are the Beetle and Caddy ads.
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Post# 20467-7/30/2002-09:12 ||| cycla-fabric (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Suds saver (Suds Saver Operation)
MESSAGE: Jason,
That’s an easy one, a suds saver device was an option on some washing machines if not all at one time or another. It was usually a switch that the user either pushed or slid to save the wash water for the second load of laundry. When in the save position the wash water would be pumped out of the machine and into the wash tub (of at least 20 gallons with the drain closed to save the water). There the water would sit and supposedly the dirt from that load would settle down to the bottom of the tub (it was recommended that you would do a lightly soiled load of laundry as your first load and save the real dirty stuff for the last load). Then when the second wash load was to be started there was a position on the dial marked SUDS, and you would start the machine here. What would happen is that the machine would start to agitate as the wash water from the stored tub would be pumped back into the machine (leaving about 2” of dirty water in the wash tub) and the user would then add half the amount of detergent to this load to re-activate the suds. If the proper fill level was not reached fresh water would enter the machine to fill the tub to the proper level. Then the user would add the laundry to the tub and the machine would complete the cycle. Oh by the way machines that had the suds return system usually required a two drains or wash tubs as these machines came with two separate drain hoses. The reason being is that the rinse water had its own drain hose, and that water was not saved. Hoped this helped you out. Sears offered this option on a lot of the machines it sold.
Cycla
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Post# 20468-7/30/2002-09:58 ||| Activator (Tulsa, OK)
SUBJECT: Conventions
MESSAGE: When do the conventions happen, and how is the group informed? I'd sure like to attend one. Is there any literature on them? I'd like to start working on my S.O. right away....Thanks!
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Post# 20469-7/30/2002-10:57 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Ejector tubes
MESSAGE: I've been wondering about this, and the Norge POD brought this back up... How exactly do the ejector tubes work? It looks like they are supposed to suck the sediment into them from under the agitator, but then why does the other end face into the overflow holes at the top of the tub (unless water is supposed to go from the top back down under the agitator to force the sediment to the tub wall where spinning would carry it out with the drain)?
-ph
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Post# 20470-7/30/2002-11:07 ||| Activator (Tulsa, OK)
SUBJECT: RE: Boy, do I feel dumb! (My Vintage Vehicles - A Tragic Story )
MESSAGE: When I first began driving in 1975, I had a 1962 Tempest station wagon, a gift from my uncle. It got about 5 1/2 - 6 MPG and used a quart of oil every 75 miles. This, one may recall, was in the midst of very high gasoline prices, during what came to be known as "The Energy Crisis". Incidentally, I received this car minus its hood, and replaced it with one from a salvage yard. It clashed.
In 1979, I purchased my one genuinely wonderful vintage vehicle: a 1948 Chevrolet Fleetmaster. It was jet black and looked like something Humphrey Bogart would drive in The Big Sleep. I LOVED that car. It got about 14 MPG and was quite conservative in oil usage. But the transmission would hang up between second and third, and I kept having to evacuate the vehicle and raise the hood (no easy task, it weighed 200# it seemed)and manually release the jam. Sadly, I had to sell the car less than a year later.
My next and final vintage experience was in 1994. A friend sold me a 1963 Rambler sedan (I REALLY needed a car, but seriously...) It was beige and had been in a flood, I believe. At any rate, it ran, got poor gas mileage, and was a real conversation piece. It had vacuum wipers which simply stopped when you accelerated. Made expressway driving in the rain MOST entertaining. And the steering wheel was enormous! I still have the horn ring that says POWER STEERING. (I sold the rest of the car for parts.)
Now I drive a really boring, 3-cylinder Geo Metro in Humiliation Red. How the mighty have fallen!
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Post# 20471-7/30/2002-11:35 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: wallpaper (GE Combo)
MESSAGE: Browsing those adds is really interesting. I saw the 1956 Unimatic and here's the blue GE combo we saw in the kitchen that was pulled out of a house recently.
Louis
LINK: http://www.ephemeranow.com/life/life046.htm
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Post# 20472-7/30/2002-11:47 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Scott's Visit to Omaha (Thank you Greg! (More Pictures))
MESSAGE: Your Majesty,
Looks like you had a wonderful visit to Omaha. We however missed a picture of the Hoover you have mentioned.
Is your friend Allen coming to the convention too?
We will mail you soon,
QLOTOC
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Post# 20473-7/30/2002-13:48 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Scott's Visit to Omaha (Thank you Greg! (More Pictures))
MESSAGE: Thanks for the pictures, Greg and Scott. Glad you guys had such a good time. I'm looking forward to seeing you both in a few weeks.
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Post# 20474-7/30/2002-13:58 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Ejector tubes
MESSAGE: Hi Peter!
When the wash tub starts to spin, centrifical force causes a vacuum in that little tube and it sucks up water and debris from under the agitator and "ejects" it out the other end of the tube into the outer basket. The tube traveled up the outside of the tub, above the water level. I don't know how effective they were, but they were better than nothing in combatting sand and heavy soil in a solid tub machine.
Here's a relatively easy solution: shake out sandy play and work clothes before loading machine. Unless you add a cup of sand along with the detergent, like Westinghouse always did. ha!
Looking forward to seeing you soon, Peter, and hearing tales of your beautiful 56 Imperial.
Rich
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Post# 20475-7/30/2002-14:28 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Ejector tubes
MESSAGE: Good explanation Rich, I don't think most of them were very effective at all. The nature of sand and grit (especially an extraordinary amount of it as in the Westy sand test) makes it a very difficult element for any washer to deal with. Front loading machines might do a better job of removing sand, but I always have thought CR's expectations were nothing short of a miracle in this area. Very few machines earned even a satisfactory rating, and most of those were later in the perforated basket era. The sediment ejector tubes probably helped to a certain degree, and then only with small amounts of sand, but every machine I've had with one was completely clogged and useless. I've had probably an entire sandbox come home in my son's clothes and shoes in the last 5 years and nothing can take the place of a good shaking-out before washing.
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Post# 20476-7/30/2002-15:27 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Scott's Visit to Omaha (Thank you Greg! (More Pictures))
MESSAGE: Thank you, Your Majesty, we had a wonderful time! I did not snap a picture of the Hoover, but I will post a link to a couple that Greg has taken previously, if I can ever get access to it (Yahoo is fighting me).
We are going to run the whole convention scenario by Al, and see if would like to come and if he can get time off to come. It would be a wonderful opportunity for him to meet so many of our friends!
QEOM
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Post# 20477-7/30/2002-15:37 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Scott's Visit to Omaha (Thank you Greg! (More Pictures))
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, here are the pictures we were speaking of. The pic the link connects to, and the next.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/wshrboy/vwp?.dir=/Thrifting+Finds+Fall-Winter+2001&.src=ph&.dnm=Hoover+Spinner+Washer+%236681.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/wshrboy/lst%3f%26.dir=/Thrifting%2bFinds%2bFall-Winter%2b2001%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 20478-7/30/2002-16:50 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD (i have the "
mint green"
stove)
MESSAGE: I have the mint green hotpoint stove, I don't think I could handle the excitement of acquiring a mint green washer too. I would have to put it in the kitchen, hahaha.
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Post# 20479-7/30/2002-16:56 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Conventions (in 3 weeks !!)
MESSAGE: I believe you could still go to this years convention just outside of DC in just three weeks, Aug. 16-18th. I am still trying to get details as well on an itinerary. Let me know what info you need and I will try to provide or I am sure others out here will post a response as well.
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Post# 20480-7/30/2002-17:03 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: Convention itinerary? order of events? help?
MESSAGE: I still need a phone, contact, or something to tell me who, what, where, when, and how this convention is suppose to proceed. I will be staying with friends in DC and I know that its from Friday, August 16 thru Sunday, August 18th, right?
Well where and when does everyone meet on Friday? I am driving down so should I be somewhere by a certain time on Friday or should I come down Thurs night because things start early on Friday? Once I head down I will have no access to email and will have just my cell phone with me. I don't know anyone out here either except for some email correspondence since I became a member a couple months ago. Thanks..........
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Post# 20481-7/30/2002-17:27 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention itinerary? order of events? help?
MESSAGE: I've emailed Jason D. - the contact person for the convention details - for the post number of the itinerary of the weekends events so we can get that info out to the new members that might wish to come to the convention. In the meantime, if you are planning to go to the convention and have not emailed Jason Dumont, you should do that now.
surgilator_68@yahoo.com
LINK: surgilator_68@yahoo.com
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Post# 20482-7/30/2002-20:36 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Scott's Visit to Omaha (Thank you Greg! (More Pictures))
MESSAGE: Thank you Your Majesty for the pictures, we hope you will experience great joy with using this machine!
QLOTOC
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Post# 20483-7/30/2002-20:44 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Scott's Visit to Omaha (Thank you Greg! (More Pictures))
MESSAGE: Thank you, Your Majesty! Thank goodness for our UK and Australian friends having had these machines on the market longer to improve my chances for parts!
QEOM
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Post# 20484-7/30/2002-20:57 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD
MESSAGE: A splash indeed, especially with the "needle point rinse".....ouch..........
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Post# 20485-7/30/2002-21:23 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention itinerary? order of events? help? (Convention Plans)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg and all. I printed off a copy the the convention plans and just checked. Go to posting # 18662 and I think this will give you guys some of the details you are wanting. Greg it looks like you guys had a great time this past weekend. My your collection looks wonderful and sure has expanded. Hope this information helps. Looking forward to seeing you in about two weeks. Terry
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Post# 20486-7/30/2002-21:31 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention itinerary? order of events? help? (Convention Plans)
MESSAGE: A double thank you Terry! The basement is getting to the point I'm going to have to make some choices when new things already in the garage are finished - too bad you don't have space for a collection of your own!
I will post the schedule of events again in a new message so that everyone going can see it again - I should have written down the post numbers!
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Post# 20487-7/30/2002-23:13 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention itinerary? order of events? help? (waiting to here from Jason D.)
MESSAGE: I already emailed Jason, he said he would get back to me, I guess I just have to wait. At least if I know what time to be at Jeff L's house and his address and phone I should be good. Thanks, G
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Post# 20488-7/30/2002-23:47 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention itinerary? order of events? help? (I guess we meet at the Holiday Inn 8/16@4PM???)
MESSAGE: If I understand posting # 18662 correctly?? It says "picnic @ Jeff and Cal's 4PM, we will meet at the hotel, so are we meeting at 4 or does the picnic start at 4?" Can someone clarify? thanks alot !!
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Post# 20489-7/30/2002-23:59 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Convention Schedule Plans
MESSAGE: I talked to John Lefever in D.C. tonight and he filled me in on some of the plans for the quickly approaching appliance convention.
Friday evening we'll organize at the hotel and head over to Jeff & Cal's house (about a mile from the hotel) for the kickoff party at about 7 PM. There will be time for greeting old friends and meeting new, food and drink and a test of "unusual agitator knowlege" game that sounds like a lot of fun.
Saturday will be appliance playtime at the museum (again, within a mile of the hotel) for the appliance fans starting mid-morning. Around 4pm there will be dinner and more partying at the museum which will take us through the evening and into the night. John plans to have approximately 30 appliances that are duplicates of some in the museum and others he would like to put up for sale, so this will be a chance to start that collection you've all been longing for.
Sunday morning about 9-10 AM, John will be having brunch at his home, and more appliance play time with the collections at his home.
Sunday afternoon from about 3PM on will be a party at Bob Wirth's home to enjoy his collection of appliances and antique phonographs (as he's posted here before) that should take us partying into the night for the final event of the convention.
The Saturday and Sunday events are flexible for everyone, so if you wish to take off and do some sightseeing around the city, you are free to do so without fear that you will be missing anything - you are welcome to come to the evening events Saturday and Sunday anytime you wish so you should feel free to take in the sights and enjoy the partying when you are finished.
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Post# 20490-7/30/2002-00:00 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention itinerary? order of events? help? (waiting to here from Jason D.)
MESSAGE: John did say that maps and directions for each event will be prepared so there won't be any "lost souls." We should be seeing those within the next week or so.
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Post# 20491-7/30/2002-01:22 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention itinerary? order of events? help? (waiting to here from Jason D.)
MESSAGE: Amnesia
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Post# 20492-7/31/2002-06:51 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: POD Viking washer
MESSAGE: It's a cross between a GE and a Hotpoint. And check out the green formica and paneling. GROO-VAY!
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Post# 20493-7/31/2002-07:05 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: E Bay WCD3T Set
MESSAGE: Just thought I would let all know that there is a Frigidaire set in POPPY? on Ebay Item #2042899203 in Virginia.They will not ship and washer only needs a timer according to seller. I believe this is from 73' year although I am not sure.
Cheers
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Post# 20494-7/31/2002-07:07 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: E Bay WCD3T Set
MESSAGE: Washer is free also.
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Post# 20495-7/31/2002-07:39 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: E Bay WCD3T Set
MESSAGE: That's a beautiful set! Someone in the club needs to rescue them. $100 for a timer on a poppy red 1-18 is nothing. If I lived anywhere near there I would get it.
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Post# 20496-7/31/2002-07:43 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Convention questions
MESSAGE: I'm going to get my plane ticket and hotel reservation today for the convention. The best deal I can get is arrive Friday morning around 11:15 and leave Sunday night around 7:00.
Is anybody gonna be there at the hotel that early Friday morning?
How far does Bob Wirth live from BWI airport and will I be able to get a ride back to the airport?
Thanks for all the help. I CAN'T WAIT to play with the old washers and shoot lots and lots of video.
tcox isn't going this year so he wants me to make lots of video of all the machines.
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Post# 20497-7/31/2002-07:44 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Convention questions pt. II
MESSAGE: What machines are going to be running there?
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Post# 20498-7/31/2002-10:16 ||| cycla-fabric (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: Some Interesting Ads found here!!
MESSAGE: Stumbled upon this site with some vintage pictures and article that I thought others would like to see.
LINK: http://www.coolstock.com/articles/washday1.html
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Post# 20499-7/31/2002-10:40 ||| tumbleaction (Las Vegas, NV)
SUBJECT: Eaton's washer
MESSAGE: Wow...where did you get that ad for the Viking washer? Eaton's (a Canadian Dept. store for you non-Canucks)used G.E. designs for a long time. I'm not sure if the chain is still in the appliance biz in Canada.
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Post# 20500-7/31/2002-11:02 ||| Jetaction (Minnepolis)
SUBJECT: Another dream machine! How to get that 1-18 poppy dryer....
MESSAGE: July has been my lucky month! First I found the 65 Lady Kenmore dryer, and in August I will be getting a poppy 1-18 washer from my just appointed new best friend Jimmy. He sent me pics, but I am not sure how to post them. Need to find bleach cup, fab softener dispenser, and owners manual, but those are just frosting! Now I see a poppy matching dryer on ebay in Virginia. I would love to bid, but don't think a road trip is in store at this time since they won't ship. Dang! All that is left on my wish list is the 65 Lady Kenmore washer, and I will have my collection complete. At least at this time, I have a feeling that my wish list could be added to! The discovery of classic appliances could lead to a basement remodel, or even a bigger house. I think there should be a disclaimer on the home page!! LOL
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Post# 20501-7/31/2002-12:17 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: E Bay WCD3T Set
MESSAGE: What a wonderful looking set. Definitely worth saving!
Louis
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Post# 20502-7/31/2002-12:24 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention questions
MESSAGE: I arrive on Thursday. There is a shuttle between the airport and the hotel. Since I will have a long journey behind me I don't think I will rise early....
Great you're coming!
Louis
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Post# 20503-7/31/2002-17:44 ||| mrcoffee (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: RE: E Bay WCD3T Set (My bid is in...)
MESSAGE: Well, I can't go to Virginia, but if I can get somebody to grab it for me who is going to the convention, then I shall gladly have both. I sent that seller a message, telling him to NOT EVEN THINK about putting the washer out on the curb, beings that it is such a valuable collector's item. I am very certain that I'll get outbid for that item!
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Post# 20504-7/31/2002-17:55 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: E Bay WCD3T Set (My bid is in...)
MESSAGE: Wow - who do you have lined up to bring this set back for you? It certainly is beautiful - good luck!
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Post# 20505-7/31/2002-18:00 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Another dream machine! How to get that 1-18 poppy dryer....
MESSAGE: Fantastic! Glad to hear you are adopting that 1-18 Jimmy found a while back, they are fun washers. Does it have a window lid?
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Post# 20506-7/31/2002-20:08 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention questions
MESSAGE: Jason, I thrilled you're gonna make it.
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Post# 20507-7/31/2002-22:37 ||| jetaction (Minnepolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Another dream machine! How to get that 1-18 poppy dryer....
MESSAGE: Yes it does have the lid. Bed of nails lint filter-I have never had one of those before. Years ago I had the other type and liked that very much. How does this compare? As I mentioned, I need a bleach cup, and Fab Softener dispenser, and possible cap, as Jimmy mentioned it fits loosely, but that is secondary to finding the machine!
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Post# 20508-7/31/2002-01:37 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Another dream machine! How to get that 1-18 poppy dryer....
MESSAGE: Don, I think that Crater and Freighter shipping place folks here have used go right to the house, pack up the item and take it. Perhaps if you arranged this and the other guy didn't have to do anything but have it hauled out, he might go for it? Just a thought. Scott
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Post# 20509-8/1/2002-08:41 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Eaton's washer
MESSAGE: I got that 1974 Eaton's-Viking catalog in the mail back in 1974 when I wrote every appliance manufacturer listed in a consumer reports article. They gave the mailing address back then. I was 11 years old and asked for information on their washing machines.
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Post# 20510-8/1/2002-08:44 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: E Bay WCD3T Set (My bid is in...)
MESSAGE: Well that's now an interesting idea, who do you have lined up to pick up and bring this washer and dryer back to Minnesota for you? You might just win the auction.
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Post# 20511-8/1/2002-08:46 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Another dream machine! How to get that 1-18 poppy dryer....
MESSAGE: I have used Crater and Freighters many times and have been quite happy with their services. But what I don't know is if they will schlepp it up out the basement. Whenever I have them pick a machine up for shipping, I leave it out in front of the garage all ready to go.
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Post# 20512-8/1/2002-14:09 ||| appliguy (Vienna Va.)
SUBJECT: RE: E Bay WCD3T Set (well Moses on a Pony...............)
MESSAGE: Well Moses on a Pony if this isn't the guy who came into the Reston Best Buy where I work and bought a new washer and dryer from me to replace this dryer and its matching washer. I remember that when I found out that he had this set I originally thought of Tom and John as well as Imperial Bob and the other collecter here in the D.C. area (I think his name is Charles) but none of them were interested and it was only a week left before Salvation Army came to pick both of them up. Iremeber I even got him info for replacing the timer in the washer but his landlord that owned them said it was to expensive. Well I guess my hard sell vintage Frigidaire pitch at least got him to save the dryer...well thats better than nothing.
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Post# 20513-8/1/2002-14:20 ||| appliguy (Vienna Va.)
SUBJECT: RE: E Bay WCD3T Set (correction........)
MESSAGE: He ended up buying the washer elsewhere......I do not want to take credit for something I didn't do ( modesty prevails) LOL
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Post# 20514-8/1/2002-15:09 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: wow that is small!
MESSAGE: What does the inside of the Easy Whirldry (On the shelf) Look like? Can you post some pics?
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/happyhotpoint/vwp?.dir=/Omaha+July+2002&.src=ph&.dnm=Calypso+Westy+DCI-59.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/happyhotpoint/lst%3f%26.dir=/Omaha%2bJuly%2b2002%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 20515-8/1/2002-16:03 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Convention here I come!
MESSAGE: Just got my plane and hotel reservations today!
This is going to be FUN, even if there aren't any roller coasters on this trip.
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Post# 20516-8/1/2002-17:02 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: Classic Servis Twinny Found in UK!!!!!
MESSAGE: Hi All
Looking forward to seeing you all at the convention , not long now...arrive in on Thursday and leave Monday....cant wait....
Saw an advert for the "Servis Holy Grail" in loot magazine, in excitement dashed there hoping it was to be a Servis All-Fabric MK41 Top Loader, the first for any collector, but not to be....But.....
Turned out to be my mums first twinny, this was on my list as well, what a marvelous surprise and delight especially after the last few months.....
This is a MK11 Model 30 made in 1961,has a spin-rinse facility, you can fill the spin can up and spin-rinse in it, also has on the washdeck holes for fill tub, suds return, spin lid release & spin rinse filler.
The symbols on the controls make me laugh, a whirling spinner and a fiery heater symbol along with the hose emptying etc...
Take a look and see what you think, I now have the MK1 and now MK11 and the last model of the MK111.
LINK: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/twintubemporium/vwp?.dir=/Mikes+Laundry&.src=gr&.dnm=Mums+First.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/twintubemporium/lst%3f%26.dir=/Mikes%2bLaundry%26.src=gr%26.view=t
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Post# 20517-8/1/2002-17:09 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Servis Twinny Found in UK!!!!! (Uh-Oh!)
MESSAGE: Uh-Oh. The link doesn't work. I can't see!
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Post# 20518-8/1/2002-18:11 ||| herr-miele (UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Servis Twinny Found in UK!!!!! (Uh-Oh!)
MESSAGE: Jamie,
You need to join the twin tub emporium group to see the pic. Try the link below and then select join the group link in the upper right corner and choose a joining option. The link in Mike's post should then work.
Richtoo
LINK: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/twintubemporium/
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Post# 20519-8/1/2002-20:24 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Servis Twinny Found in UK!!!!!
MESSAGE: Mikey, congratulations. You are the "1". A real servic master. I hope this model will bring you some extra comfort. See you soon. I can't wait until I do. Cheers & hugs.
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Post# 20520-8/1/2002-20:29 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention here I come!
MESSAGE: Jason terrific. And BTW, you won't need the excitement of coasters--the washers will more than suffice!!!
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Post# 20521-8/1/2002-20:39 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention here I come!
MESSAGE: 3 days of peace, love, and washing machines.
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Post# 20522-8/1/2002-21:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Servis Twinny Found in UK!!!!!
MESSAGE: Hi Mike -
Your Servis collection is looking very sharp! This certainly is a beautiful machine you've just found, exceptionally nice condition too. Is the spinner basket perforated? It was hard to tell in the pictures. I had not seen pictures of the Hotpoint Supermatic, that is a neat machine too. The agitator reminds me of the 30's Maytag wringer washer agitator design. Thanks for sharing your new find with us - see you soon!
Greg
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Post# 20523-8/1/2002-21:35 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Another dream machine! How to get that 1-18 poppy dryer....
MESSAGE: The filters are a toss-up, the pan type filter is easier to clean, but seems to get clogged quickly and overflow, rendering it useless. The bed of nails is OK, but a little more difficult to clean. Don't lose too much sleep over the fabric softener dispenser, the one I have dribbles the softener out all through the wash, which is fine if you are using vintage Rain Barrel wash cycle softener, but a waste otherwise. There is another type of dispenser with a deeper, cone shaped cup that might be better.
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Post# 20524-8/1/2002-22:53 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Servis Twinny Found in UK!!!!!
MESSAGE: Hi Mike, that is a very cool find! Wow your new MK1 looks like it's in very good shape. Also the pictures of the Hotpoint twin tub were very cool too. The Servis looks like the spinner is a solid basket just like quite a few 1930's twin tubs were here.
Looking forward to seeing you again at the convention.
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Post# 20525-8/1/2002-22:56 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Another dream machine! How to get that 1-18 poppy dryer....
MESSAGE: Unfortunately every Frigidaire fabric softener dispenser I have seen has suffered from the "dribble out" syndrome. Thank goodness the cycle is so much fun to watch so that I'm always there when its time to put in the fabric softener the old fashioned way. :)
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Post# 20526-8/2/2002-03:08 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: Warm Water Washing
MESSAGE: After years of advertisements and such else telling the Australian public to wash in cold water Omo advertisments are now telling people that they will get better results with warm water.
For my opinions on the Omo care line lady ( really any washer lovers dream girl ) see the sandbox...
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Post# 20527-8/2/2002-03:20 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Servis Twinny Found in UK!!!!!
MESSAGE: Those Servis pictures were womderful Mike! Thank you for posting them
My Nan had a Wilkins Servis Twin Tub very similar to the Mark11 in your alubm but the controls were push button not knobs. Other than that the lids, cabinet shape were all like my nans and what memories the wash tub picture bought back.
Ahh wash days with my nan...
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Post# 20528-8/2/2002-10:29 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Another dream machine! How to get that 1-18 poppy dryer....
MESSAGE: All my 1-18 caps fit loosely unless you have the bleach cup. The cup has a spring on the bottom that holds it securely against the agitator cap and keeps the cap tight. Congrats on your new baby!
-ph
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Post# 20529-8/2/2002-11:36 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Servis Twinny Found in UK!!!!!
MESSAGE: Congratulations on this wonderful machine. It looks like new. Very nice features too.
Looking forward to seeing you too.
Louis
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Post# 20530-8/2/2002-13:56 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: What do I do?
MESSAGE: Me and my mom are getting on the plane to go to D.C. around 5:00-5:30! What do we do then? My mom does not know waht to do at all! HELP!
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Post# 20531-8/2/2002-15:37 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: What do I do?
MESSAGE: Jamie, I gave your mom all the info she needs and contact phone numbers. The both of you will be just fine.
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Post# 20532-8/2/2002-16:06 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: 2 full laundry baskets
MESSAGE: It's Friday, I have 2 full laundry baskets, a new box of Arm & Hammer, the pizza's on its way and the The Beatles White Album is about to start spinning on the Dual 604. Life is good.
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Post# 20533-8/2/2002-16:48 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: 2 full laundry baskets
MESSAGE: Bliss.
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Post# 20534-8/2/2002-17:30 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Servis Twinny Found in UK!!!!!
MESSAGE: Hi Bob
At this rate I might be in line for the complete Servis twinny line up, three out of eight for starters isnt bad!!!
Mike
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Post# 20535-8/2/2002-17:38 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Servis Twinny Found in UK!!!!!
MESSAGE: Hi Greg
Both machines are in exceptionally good nick for 42+years old, was really surprised and they work perfectly just purr along as Scott found out during his wash-in.
The spinner is solid with vane channels at the top, so its possible to do an overflow rinse and let the water float the soap over the top into the outer drum.
The Hotpoint isnt mine its on display at the local repair shop, Keith (Keymatic) has one of these, it is the first Hotpoint twinny made and it comes complete with a bright red filter flow spout and tray.
Good to see your collection expanding, looking for your warehouse soon I take it!!! see you soon
Mike
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Post# 20536-8/2/2002-17:41 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Servis Twinny Found in UK!!!!!
MESSAGE: Hi Arrrooohhh
These are great machines to use, mum used ours for 3 to 4 times a week for 22 years and was still working when we got our first Servis 308 front loader late seventies.
Just found a pic will scan later....
How many push buttons did the Wilkins machine have
Mike
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Post# 20537-8/2/2002-17:45 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Servis Twinny Found in UK!!!!!
MESSAGE: Hi Louis
Got the use of a digi vid camera so hope to capture them on film for showing here...
Saw the latest Norfrost twinny made by Velo, very basic machine and lots of plastic for £460 quid, the older machines are so heavy with all the enamel cabinets/tubs and gearboxes etc..
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Post# 20538-8/2/2002-18:37 ||| tucker (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: E Bay WCD3T Set (sears)
MESSAGE: looks like he went to sears or got a used kenmore, you can see the new washer in the backround pic of the dryer...thats a pretty cool story dude.
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Post# 20539-8/2/2002-20:48 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: 2 full laundry baskets
MESSAGE: Yes Jason, life is good with that much laundry. I did 10 loads last Sunday and will have 2 more to do this Sunday. BTW, you should think about buying some Rain Fresh Fab to go with the Fab Four.
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Post# 20540-8/2/2002-20:51 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Servis Twinny Found in UK!!!!!
MESSAGE: Mikey, no it isn't!!! Search on and on to complete the whole line. Then you''ll be doing laundry Servis with a smile.
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Post# 20541-8/2/2002-22:35 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: E Bay WCD3T Set (Lets Talk Ifs.)
MESSAGE: Are you going to the Convention? If so and nobody wants the washer I would love the Pulsator from that beauty!
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Post# 20542-8/3/2002-19:57 ||| mrcoffee (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: RE: E Bay WCD3T Set (Shipping that set)
MESSAGE: Well, actually, I sent an e-mail to the seller and he stated that he'll ship if the buyer will arrange to have the machine picked up by a freighter such as Craters and Freighters. So, it's up for grabs. Pulsator: Are you listening?
And, yes, I did manage to bid on the item, hoping that there'll be a way for me to afford to have it shipped out to Minnesota. Wish me the best of luck, right?
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Post# 20543-8/3/2002-22:01 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: WI-57 Control Tower Is Back
MESSAGE: About 2 months ago, I removed the chrome pieces from the top and took them in to be stripped and re-chromed. I picked them up this week and re-installed them, and a new timer, today. It turned out absolutely beautiful and I'm thrilled to have the washer back up and running again. To show off the newly restored chrome even better, I painted the walls around the machines in the North laundry room charcoal gray. It worked beautifully, they really show much better now than against the white walls I had before.
Here's some pics!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst?&.dir=/Frigidaire+WI+57&.src=ph&.view=t
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Post# 20544-8/3/2002-22:07 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: wow that is small! (Easy Whirldry Washer)
MESSAGE: Hi Jamie - I took some pictures of the Easy Whirldry counter top washer from 1947 today. Enjoy!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Easy+Whirldry+Washer&.src=ph&.dnm=Easy+Whirldry+Washer+1947.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Easy%2bWhirldry%2bWasher%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 20545-8/3/2002-22:23 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: WI-57 Control Tower Is Back
MESSAGE: Greg,
Your laundry room and machines are great!
Do you ever lock yourself in there for the whole weekend?
I would every once and awhile.
Thanks for the photo's
Brent
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Post# 20546-8/3/2002-22:59 ||| jgp57 (dearborn michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: WI-57 Control Tower Is Back (laundry)
MESSAGE: you have a wonderful laundry room thank you for the photos.jgp57
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Post# 20547-8/3/2002-23:11 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: WI-57 Control Tower Is Back (Beautiful Job)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg, Boy the Frigidaire Control Tower turned out beautiful!! The new chrome really sets it off. Your laundry room looks great. The charcoal grey color is just perfect. Would never have thought of that color but it sure does look great. It is very clear that you have put in a lot of hard work and it shows. You should be very proud. Thanks for sharing. Terry
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Post# 20548-8/3/2002-23:40 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: wow that is small! (I have an idea!, maybe...)
MESSAGE: Do you tihnk it is possible if you could take that to the Convention? If I could I would give Billions to have one of those.
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Post# 20549-8/3/2002-23:49 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: wow that is small! (FUN!)
MESSAGE: I bet those are fun to play with. Looks like you could only wash 3 towels in it. So this is an "agitub" machine. The whole tub goes back and forth. I always thought this was a solid tub machine, not perforated. I'd love to see videos of this washing and spinning.
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Post# 20550-8/3/2002-00:16 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: wow that is small! (Great idea!)
MESSAGE: Can you post movies of all cycles?
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Post# 20551-8/3/2002-00:45 ||| Jetaction (Minnepolis)
SUBJECT: RE: WI-57 Control Tower Is Back
MESSAGE: The room and the machine looks great! Yesterday I picked up some parts I had re-chromed for the Tappan stove I am working on. Worked quite a bit on the stove today, putting them back on, and that also looks great. It is amazing what effect that has on the machines! Looking to hook up with Jimmy in a couple weeks, either in Des Moines or Omaha to get the 1-18.
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Post# 20552-8/3/2002-01:19 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: wow that is small! (I have an idea!, maybe...)
MESSAGE: This one needs a belt - I've tried several and none of them worked, kept slipping off or were too tight. I saw one of these running years ago in a thrift store, but have never washed in one - yet.
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Post# 20553-8/3/2002-01:22 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: WI-57 Control Tower Is Back
MESSAGE: As much as I love this room, I have two laundry rooms so it would be too hard to choose just one. My son and I spent most of the day downstairs, 98 degrees outside and 70 down there!
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Post# 20554-8/3/2002-01:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: WI-57 Control Tower Is Back (Beautiful Job)
MESSAGE: Thanks Terry & J - I really was impressed how the color makes the room much more bold and vibrant, now I need to choose a color to do the same thing in the South room too. Until I find a pink set of pushbutton Maytags, I'll have to put the color on the walls!
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Post# 20555-8/3/2002-01:28 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: wow that is small! (Easy Whirldry Washer)
MESSAGE: I enjoyed them too Gansky!
How does that little machine work?
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Post# 20556-8/3/2002-01:30 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: 2 full laundry baskets
MESSAGE: I am so glad for you Jason.
Simple pleasures are the best.
Me I am so stressed out of late but a new Whirlpool Front Loader would make me feel a little better. It wouldnt solve my problems but at least my clothes would last a bit longer...
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Post# 20557-8/3/2002-01:39 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: WI-57 Control Tower Is Back
MESSAGE: It would be fun to have you come to Omaha, hopefully it works out. The chrome I had done didn't come out completely perfect, there was some pretty bad pitting in a couple of spots on the washer deck, and the top of the panel of the 59 Filtrator came out so-so, but very shiny so it will pass. The plating shop I went to had lots of pictures on the wall of cars they had done chrome and metal work for, I half-seriously mentioned I would send them pictures of the washer and the shop owner said he would really like to see how all these "strange shaped" pieces fit together on top of a washing machine, so I just might send them one for the wall!
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Post# 20558-8/3/2002-01:48 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: WI-57 Control Tower Is Back
MESSAGE: It looks great!
And of course when you get sick of it you can put it in a box and ship it to Australia for me!
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Post# 20559-8/4/2002-03:39 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: WI-57 Control Tower Is Back
MESSAGE: Wow Greg, what a classy laundryroom. Really awesome pictures.
Louis
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Post# 20560-8/4/2002-08:38 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: wow that is small! (Pooh!)
MESSAGE: Darn! That stinks! Oh well.
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Post# 20561-8/4/2002-08:43 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Do you know where I might find an Easy Whirldry?
MESSAGE: Where would I might find an Easy Whirldry? Does anyone know of a good place to look?
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Post# 20562-8/4/2002-08:47 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Servis Twinny Found in UK!!!!!
MESSAGE: Hi Arrrooohhh,
I have an owners manual for a push button Wilkins Servis twin which may be the same as your Nan's.
I only have the book, not the washer unfortunately.
Here is a link...
Chris.
LINK: http://uk.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gizmo_au63/lst?.dir=/wilkins+twin+booklet&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//uk.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gizmo_au63/vwp%3f.dir=/wilkins%2btwin%2bbooklet%26.dnm=Rinso%2bAd%2bWS%2btwin.jpg%26.src=ph&.view=t
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Post# 20563-8/4/2002-08:59 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: 2 full laundry baskets
MESSAGE: Hi arrrooohhh,
Sorry to hear you're stressed out.
Why not grab a Trading Post (or Sydney equivalent) and find yourself a fun second hand older front loader. Lots more fun than a new Whirlpool FL and heaps less money. In fact you could buy LOTS of old washers for the cost of a new FL...
Imagine how much fun THAT would be?
Best Wishes
Chris
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Post# 20564-8/4/2002-12:14 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Servis Twinny Found in UK!!!!!
MESSAGE: Beautiful machine, Mike...and how cool to find the exact one your mum had. Gary and I are looking forward to seeing you in a week or so!
Cheers!
Rich
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Post# 20565-8/4/2002-12:26 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: E Bay WCD3T Set (Yes, But I Don't Understand.)
MESSAGE: Are you sayng I could have the washer? I would really love to have it. The only trick is getting my parents to let me have it. It is my only dream machine. Any ideas? Please Help!
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Post# 20566-8/4/2002-12:30 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: WI-57 Control Tower Is Back
MESSAGE: Hi Greg!
Your laundry studio looks great! Excellent choice of colors...you were right...it really highlights the white appliances with chrome trim. When we see you at the convention, you'll have to get with Gary and discuss some stage lighting as the icing on the cake for this room! Looking forward to seeing you soon!
Rich
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Post# 20567-8/4/2002-12:33 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: WI-57 Control Tower Is Back (Beautiful Job)
MESSAGE: Pink and grey are a very smart color combination!
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Post# 20568-8/4/2002-12:37 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: WI-57 Control Tower Is Back (Beautiful Job)
MESSAGE: pink and grey IS a very smart color combination...haha...
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Post# 20569-8/4/2002-15:57 ||| lkanon (Israel)
SUBJECT: GE Filter-Flo Washing Machine (1957)
MESSAGE: I would like any info regarding this machine that my Mom
used to have when I was a kid. Owner's or service manuals
would be very much appreciated. Thanks alot.
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Post# 20570-8/4/2002-16:19 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: WI-57 Control Tower Is Back (Tower)
MESSAGE: Greg
I love the control tower washer
It looks Great right in the corner it stands in
Peter
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Post# 20571-8/4/2002-17:41 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: WI-57 Control Tower Is Back
MESSAGE: Greg the Chrome on your Imperial is just brilliant! I have never had anything rechromed yet, but I think it might be time. Oh and I love the Frigidaire Charcoal gary walls. I can't wait to come and visit again soon.
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Post# 20572-8/4/2002-17:42 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: WI-57 Control Tower Is Back
MESSAGE: Don, who do you use here in the Twin Cities for rechroming? Is it very expensive?
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Post# 20573-8/4/2002-17:46 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: I might be a bit distant
MESSAGE: Hey everyone, I might not have much time for the club for the next few weeks as Eddy is coming for a visit on Friday (YAY, can't wait to meet you Eddy) and for the other reason I will post that in the sandbox...
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Post# 20574-8/4/2002-18:13 ||| tucker (San Diego)
SUBJECT: Visits
MESSAGE: Hi all,
I'm going to be traveling across the country this month and I was wondering if anyone lived near my route so that i could stop by and see some wonderful vintage appliances. I won't be a pest but I would really love to stop in and visit for a bit and admire your wonderful collections. I'll be travelling from San Diego, California to Birmingham Alabama and I'll be dropping off a friend in Norman Oklahoma, anyone want a visitor =0) off the beaten path is ok too =)
Thanks,
~Steven
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Post# 20575-8/4/2002-18:31 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Question for mr.coffee.
MESSAGE: What is your ebay name?
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Post# 20576-8/4/2002-19:03 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: WI-57 Control Tower Is Back (looks great!!!!)
MESSAGE: Greg, they look great, love the photos !!! Nothing like new chrome....
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Post# 20577-8/4/2002-19:13 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: Ebay WCD3T (I decided not to bid)
MESSAGE: Love the color big time, never ever seen that color before. Looks like some others out there really want it more than me and its not my dream machine so I am not going to bid. (not that anyone really cares, hahaha). Besides I have been on a roll lately. Hope whomever really wants it, gets it and hope they get the pair. Can't imagine splitting up a pair like that, in that color. Would love to see that color in person. Best wishes, -G
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Post# 20578-8/4/2002-19:17 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: Guess what !!??
MESSAGE: Well I bought a 1947 Easy Spindrier Washing Machine. In great shape and works great, picking up soon. YAY !!!
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Post# 20579-8/4/2002-19:19 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: Estate Sales !! ??
MESSAGE: Am I an idiot? Nevermind , don't answer that............
Howcome I cannot find any listings in any papers for "estate sales"?? I only find yard sales advertised. Can anyone help? -GregM
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Post# 20580-8/4/2002-19:31 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: WI-57 Control Tower Is Back
MESSAGE: Greg, it's show-room perfect. Are you sure we're not back in 1957?
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Post# 20581-8/4/2002-19:34 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: WI-57 Control Tower Is Back
MESSAGE: Gee, it was hotter there than here!!!!
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Post# 20582-8/4/2002-19:38 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: WI-57 Control Tower Is Back (Beautiful Job)
MESSAGE: I know. Just like the bathroom in the house across the sreet from us when growing up--the smart color of 1961. This was the house with the Westy Kitchen and the eventual charcoal Hotpoint touch command dryer and the Westly L110.
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Post# 20583-8/4/2002-19:52 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: WI-57 Control Tower Is Back
MESSAGE: Thanks Rich - my lighting choices thus far have been simply floro shop lights which are, to say the least, not very flattering to the machines (or the user!) and I've long wanted to change my arrangement for a more effective and pleasing light. Tell Gary I look forward to talking to him - the term "stage lighting" is very exciting!
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Post# 20584-8/4/2002-20:03 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Visits
MESSAGE: When are you traveling?
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Post# 20585-8/4/2002-20:06 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: WI-57 Control Tower Is Back (Beautiful Job)
MESSAGE: Some friends of mine have a bathroom done in light dove gray with turquoise accents, I've always thought the room needed a 56 Westy stack set in turquoise to complete the look.
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Post# 20586-8/4/2002-20:06 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Hurry bid mrcoffee!
MESSAGE: Hurry bid! Or are you Gargui01? Please don't miss I really need the washer!
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Post# 20587-8/4/2002-20:09 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Guess what !!??
MESSAGE: I had one of those - one of my first finds. Mine was in terrible shape and wasn't worth restoring. I really wanted to play with that machine, and I've still never used a wringer washer - ever! Have fun with your new toy, have you ever used one?
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Post# 20588-8/4/2002-20:11 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sales !! ??
MESSAGE: Have you checked for "tag sales" or the auction section? There is one estate sale company here that only advertises in the local classified weekly paper - found at grocery stores, etc. I never think to check that one here, so I've probably missed a bunch of good stuff!
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Post# 20589-8/4/2002-20:16 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: MAN I AM MAD!
MESSAGE: My mom said I can't get the washer. I am actually crying as I am writing this. I can't believe this is happening!
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Post# 20590-8/4/2002-20:19 ||| jetaction (Minnepolis)
SUBJECT: RE: WI-57 Control Tower Is Back (re-chroming)
MESSAGE: I use Shaughnessy Plating in Northeast. I brought in 5 pieces about a month ago and picked them up Friday. Four burner drip pans and the backsplash of the 53 Tappan stove I am working on. The drip pans were pretty rusted with some pitting, and the backsplash, although not rusted,was in rough shape. The pieces are pristine-so beautiful! My bill was $250.00. Their number is 612-781-2978.
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Post# 20591-8/4/2002-20:29 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: MAN I AM MAD!
MESSAGE: We had no space for an appliance collection when I was your age, and I would never have been allowed to have one even if we did! I would have absolutely loved to go to an appliance convention though, you are very fortunate that your mom is bringing you to D.C. You will get to see and play with machines you've never even heard of before!
There are lots of 1-18 Frigidaires around, you will have one sooner or later. Perhaps if you concentrate your searching closer to home, one will turn up that won't require a huge shipping expense.
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Post# 20592-8/4/2002-20:34 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: MAN I AM MAD! (It's not the shipping costs.)
MESSAGE: It is not the shipping costs. It is the fact that she "thinks" that we have enough washers. Both of mine are in storage thanks to her. The washer we have is like six years old and is about ready to actually fall face flat on the floor!
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Post# 20593-8/4/2002-20:46 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: MAN I AM MAD! (It won't be long...)
MESSAGE: One day in the near future you too will be an Adult, and you will be able to have all of the washers that you want!
For now .... enjoy what you can have.
My mom would have laughed her head off at me if I would have asked to go to a convention for vintage machines when I was your age!
You have a really cool mom. Don't push your luck. Go kiss her goodnight.
Brent
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Post# 20594-8/4/2002-21:07 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: gh
MESSAGE: j
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Post# 20595-8/4/2002-21:17 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: MAN I AM MAD! (there will be more.......)
MESSAGE: Hey Bud, there are alot of people out here who love old appliances and there will be alot more people to come, including yourself who will love old appliances too. Your chance of owning and having the appliance you want will happen. You have alot to look forward to already. I just started to pursue this at age 36 and I have missed out on alot of time because I didn't know these appliances still existed until I found this website. Hang in there....
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Post# 20596-8/4/2002-21:22 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Guess what !!?? (not a wringer)
MESSAGE: Hey Greg :) There are actually two tubs. A big round one with an agitator and a smaller spin tub next to it. The wash tub is good size too, I want to say its maybe somewhere close to 4.0 cubic feet?? Its in great shape and very quiet. I am thrilled.
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Post# 20597-8/4/2002-21:26 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sales !! ?? (define "
tag"
)
MESSAGE: Can you define "tag" sales?? Heard the expression before but I am not sure what you mean?? So far I have seen one auction listed but are estate sales and auctions related/similar? I understand what they are respectively unless they are going to auction off an estate's contents?? - GregM
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Post# 20598-8/4/2002-21:29 ||| Jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: MAN I AM MAD!
MESSAGE: Dude, when I was your age, we had a 1970 Kenmore 800 washer. It was the washer I grew up with and it's my #1 dream machine. I had no idea that these old machines were still around until I found this club. You're very lucky to find us. Don't worry about not getting the washer. There's alot of 1-18s out there. Shipping that thing would've costed alot of money too. I'm sure there are some closer to you.
There's also lots and lots of old Kenmores still going. Have you ever watched a belt-drive Kenmore run? It's awesome! I can prove that because I own a 1977 portable Kenmore. It's a small washer but it's just as fun as the big ones.
In two weeks, you're going to see lots of old machines from the 50s,60s, and 70s. Machines from when your mom was a kid.
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Post# 20599-8/4/2002-21:34 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Guess what !!?? (not a wringer)
MESSAGE: Does your Easy spinner have the rinsing cone in the center of the spin basket? It was probably the same as mine, I think the later 50's ones didn't have this "automatic" rinsing feature.
Someday I'd like to find another Easy spinner washer and a wringer (I'm holding out for one in pink!) to play with. Until then, it's automatic all the way!
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Post# 20600-8/4/2002-21:48 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Guess what !!?? (not a wringer)
MESSAGE: I don't think it has the "rinse" in the spinner, I guess it is capable of draining into another tub and pulling that same water back in. A "suds-saver" thing.
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Post# 20601-8/4/2002-22:30 ||| mrcoffee (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: RE: Question for mr.coffee.
MESSAGE: Generally, I use mrcoffee73. As for the Frigidaire, I stated that you can bid on the auction, and then have the seller arrange for shipment if you win it. Well, it's too late to worry about that now, because Steve 1-18 has it.
Again, I will reiterate that these machines are very expensive to buy, and to ship as well. Not to mention, there is at least $120.00 to put into the timer. Actually, I am very surprised that the machine isn't already selling at over $300.00.
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Post# 20602-8/4/2002-22:34 ||| mrcoffee (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: RE: Hurry bid mrcoffee!
MESSAGE: Pulsator: Again, if you want the machine, you have to spend the money. I can't bid any higher because I can't afford it. Good luck though.
Also, if I did win the auction and arranged for shipment, the machine would go to me and not anybody else. A valuable collector's item is never meant to be given away with out a price.
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Post# 20603-8/4/2002-22:46 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sales !! ??
MESSAGE: No, Greg you are not an idiot. I am in Fairfield, CT and there are really very few true estate sales. All you can do is check your local and regional newspapers classified sections and look carefully. I would think, though that the Boston area would have a few every week. Yard and tag sales I have found to be a bit of a waste of time. And it is incredibly rare that you would have appliances at a tag sale.
Also there is a weekly publication here called the Bargain News which lists everything possible in the world to sell. So I always check the appliances section every week. No successes yet, but you never know.....
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Post# 20604-8/4/2002-22:49 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: MAN I AM MAD! (It won't be long...)
MESSAGE: Well said, Brent. Your day will come, Jamie but you just need a little patience - I know it's hard. Greg was right - there are a lot of 1-18's out there and living in the midwest, that is prime Frigidaire territory..............
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Post# 20605-8/4/2002-23:32 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Question for mr.coffee.
MESSAGE: I've had three 1-18 washers in the last 3 years, one was $75, one $35 and another was $20. They weren't all perfect, minor troubles really. Value, like beauty, is in the eye of beholder - or in this case, collector!
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Post# 20606-8/4/2002-23:35 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sales !! ??
MESSAGE: We don't have tag sales here, mostly these are advertised as estate sales. Sometimes they are in the Home Furnishings section of the classifieds, a few get scattered in the garage sale sections, but you must be wary of those ads. Many times they are people selling off the last of grandma's old tupperware and mis-matched dishes in their driveway. I don't consider those "estate" sales, a true estate sale is the contents of the entire house (and sometimes the house too.)
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Post# 20607-8/4/2002-00:19 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: WI-57 Control Tower Is Back
MESSAGE: I think by now Gary has enough sensitivity to vintage washers that his stage lighting would not upstage the display pieces. But again, we wouldn't wanna wash out the subjects either.
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Post# 20608-8/4/2002-01:20 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: MAN I AM MAD! (It's not the shipping costs.)
MESSAGE: Your six-year-old washer is ready to fall apart?? That's not old at all. What kind is it, a GE, LOL!! My parents' first two washers lasted 15 years (1962 Whirlpool) and 18 years (1976 Whirlpool), and the 1991 KitchenAid I had is still going strong at my grandmother's house.
I know how you feel about the 1-18. I'd LOVE to have a 1-18, and a Kelvinator and a Philco, but I don't have any place to keep them. Maybe some day.
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Post# 20609-8/4/2002-01:53 ||| mrcoffee (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: RE: Question for mr.coffee.
MESSAGE: Well, you might have only paid $75.00 for your Frigidaire. However, that winning bidder paid over $200.00 for the one one E-Bay. And that one had a bad timer. Go and figure the shipping costs too.
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Post# 20610-8/5/2002-02:58 ||| lkanon (USA)
SUBJECT: GE Filter-Flo Washing Machine from 1957
MESSAGE: Hi there Unimatic1140!
I understand that you have one of these washing machines
and it runs great. Can you give me the model no. and
any other info? My mom had one of these when I was a
kid and I always can remember how it worked.
Thanks alot.
Louis
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Post# 20611-8/5/2002-02:59 ||| lkanon (USA)
SUBJECT: Message for Unimatic1140
MESSAGE: Hi there Unimatic1140!
I understand that you have one of these washing machines
and it runs great. Can you give me the model no. and
any other info? My mom had one of these when I was a
kid and I always can remember how it worked.
Thanks alot.
Louis
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Post# 20612-8/5/2002-02:59 ||| lkanon (USA)
SUBJECT: Message for Unimatic1140
MESSAGE: Hi there Unimatic1140!
I understand that you have one of these washing machines
and it runs great. Can you give me the model no. and
any other info? My mom had one of these when I was a
kid and I always can remember how it worked.
Thanks alot.
Louis
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Post# 20613-8/5/2002-03:51 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: YAY!
MESSAGE: YAY! I WON THE POPPY SET!
Film at 11
Steve 1-18
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Post# 20614-8/5/2002-05:37 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sales !! ?? (thanks for the feedback)
MESSAGE: thank you :) ......
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Post# 20615-8/5/2002-05:40 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: YAY! (Congrads!)
MESSAGE: Congrads Steve, as I mentioned in an earlier posting, I have never seen that color before, good for you........
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Post# 20616-8/5/2002-05:57 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: MAN I AM MAD! (It's not the shipping costs.)
MESSAGE: Hi Jamie.
Try not to be too upset. Your Mom is really great to take you to the convention, 99 out of 100 Moms would not do this for you so you are very lucky already.
When you get to the convention you will see all kind of washers, some weird and wonderful ones and probably a 1-18 or two. Don't forget to take some photos for when you go back home. And you will get to meet some other folks who share your interest.
At twelve you are really a bit young to be fixing up electrical appliances, it can be quite dangerous you know! But you can sure start reading up on how machines work, how electricity behaves and how to fix machines so that when you are old enough you will know exactly what to do.
I believe you said you had an agitator collection (?), what agitators do you have already? Agitators are a cool thing to collect, and you can also collect advertisements and owners manuals, which take up a lot less space than whole washers, and can't give you an electric shock!
Best Wishes
Chris
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Post# 20617-8/5/2002-07:19 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: MAN I AM MAD! (It's not the shipping costs.)
MESSAGE: Beleive it or not it is a Maytag.
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Post# 20618-8/5/2002-07:57 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Question for mr.coffee.
MESSAGE: Yes, and none of mine were Poppy color, which I've never seen except on the South Dakota farm.
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Post# 20619-8/5/2002-08:00 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: YAY!
MESSAGE: Good for you Steve! Have fun with it - you have just about every color now!
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Post# 20620-8/5/2002-09:00 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Double YAY!!
MESSAGE: And he also picked up the last 2 Unimatic torque spings at one appliance part outlet this morning!
-ph
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Post# 20621-8/5/2002-09:35 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Filter-Flo Washing Machine from 1957
MESSAGE: Hi Louis, I will have to look and see when I am home what model # it is. I know it ends in 950.
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Post# 20622-8/5/2002-09:35 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: YAY!
MESSAGE: Congrats Steve, it looks like they are both in great shape on the outside.
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Post# 20623-8/5/2002-09:37 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Double YAY!!
MESSAGE: So I guess that means soon Unimatics will be pulsating away in Dixie once again, YAY!
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Post# 20624-8/5/2002-10:43 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Do you know where I might find an Easy Whirldry? (eBay)
MESSAGE: There's one currently on eBay...
-ph
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2128249180
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Post# 20625-8/5/2002-12:02 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: convention hotel
MESSAGE: I don't know if the hotel still looks like this, but I found this on eBay... This design was known as the U2...
-ph
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2126559694
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Post# 20626-8/5/2002-12:08 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: YAY!
MESSAGE: Steve, congratulations, that is really wonderful. In the future I must come over and do a load in it. Is there a second laundryroom coming up? A special 1-18 one and one for the other washers?
Louis
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Post# 20627-8/5/2002-12:15 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: MAN I AM MAD! (Maytag)
MESSAGE: Hi Jamie,
Which model Maytag is that?
Louis
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Post# 20628-8/5/2002-12:18 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Filter-Flo Washing Machine from 1957
MESSAGE: Hi there Louis,
Welcome to the club, it's nice to see another Louis here!
Louis
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Post# 20629-8/5/2002-12:20 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: MAN I AM MAD! (It's not the shipping costs.)
MESSAGE: New belts and she'll be good as new.
Best thing to do is your mom can call the Maytag Repairman (LOL). When he comes over and fixes the machine, watch what he does. Ask questions about how it works, etc. That's what I used to do.
They usually needs belts and hoses every 10 years. My mom's Maytag is 11 years old. It has new hoses, but it needs belts.
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Post# 20630-8/5/2002-12:24 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Do you know where I might find an Easy Whirldry? (does it spin?)
MESSAGE: I thought those things could spin too? All I saw was the on/off switch.
Looks like a really fun machine.
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Post# 20631-8/5/2002-12:29 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: POD -- 08/05/02....... Speed Queen Washer....
MESSAGE: Question to anyone who cares to answer it.
What year is that Speed Queen washer that is featured in today's POD???? That certainly looked like a TOL model for the year it was introduced.
What a beautiful machine. Only the 1960 model that matches Eddy's 1960 Speed Queen dryer looks better.
--Charles--
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Post# 20632-8/5/2002-13:10 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: convention hotel
MESSAGE: What a fabulous looking mid century Holiday Inn! Unfortunately, I don't think it looks like this anymore, the picture in Expedia shows a much larger building.
A friend of mine sent me a postcard depicting the "Cissell Compact" (turquoise) commercial dryer, designed for motels. It holds 25 pounds dry weight and dries "a pound a minute". Its 28 X 30 basket "assures thorough "fluff" drying to towels and spreads, and for guests' "drip dry" clothing. :-)
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/happyhotpoint/vwp?.dir=/My+Photos&.src=ph&.dnm=Cissell+Compact+Dryer.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/happyhotpoint/lst%3f%26.dir=/My%2bPhotos%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 20633-8/5/2002-13:30 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: YAY! (YAY! yeah yeah)
MESSAGE: Yes, congrats to Steve.
One can never own too many Frigidaire 1-18 machines.
Steve and I are going to have a hair pulling, scratching and kicking fight when I see him in D.C.
Just kidding!
Regards to all.
Ken
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Post# 20634-8/5/2002-13:32 ||| Rjcallahan (Columbia, MO)
SUBJECT: Bendix Automatic Home Laundry and Dryer
MESSAGE: We recently moved into a house built in the early 1940s. In the basement we found a Bendix Automatic Home Laundry and a Bendix Automatic Dryer. We have removed these, but we think that collectors or others might have some interest in them. We are interested in knowing what they are worth, and whether or not anybody here would be interested in acquiring them.
The washing machine is a round-ish front-loader. According to information on the back of it, it is a Model S.
The dryer is a Model E-804. A round plaque in the upper right front corder says "Quick Dry."
Please respond here or email pholk@well.com with any information you might have about these appliances -- pointers to other online information would be helpful, too.
Thank you,
Richard Callahan
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Post# 20635-8/5/2002-15:33 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Easy Whirldry
MESSAGE: I managed to make my parents let me bid n it.
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Post# 20636-8/5/2002-15:48 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: POD -- 08/05/02....... Speed Queen Washer....
MESSAGE: Hi Charles, just looking at some SQ manuals, it appears to be the model A78F (the only model above this was A78WF...with suds saver). A guess would be 1966. It is a beauty, isn't it?
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Post# 20637-8/5/2002-15:55 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD -- 08/05/02....... Speed Queen Washer.... (But the model)
MESSAGE: That Speed Queen washer sure is a beauty. But, the poor woman modeling the washer sure does look like she is thinking "hurry up mister and take the picture already, I've really gotta to pee!" LOL
:)
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Post# 20638-8/5/2002-16:24 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: POD -- 08/05/02....... Speed Queen Washer....
MESSAGE: Yep....... it's a beauty alright.... Does that model have a lighted console??? It appears to look like it does.
Also, from the way that the timer looks in the console, that look like that may be the year that my great grandma's dryer must of came out as well. My great grandma not only had a 1975-76 Speed Queen washer, but she also had a Speed Queen dryer. But I think that hers was a more basic model than the one that might have matched the washer that is shown here. So, I guess that her Speed Queen dryer was a 1966 model too. That is, if that is a 1966 washer like you saying it is.
--Charles--
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Post# 20639-8/5/2002-16:25 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: POD -- 08/05/02....... Speed Queen Washer.... (But the model)
MESSAGE: Unimatic:
Yep, it does look like she's kind of in a hurry, doesn't it (ROTFLMAO)???????
--Charles--
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Post# 20640-8/5/2002-17:21 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: To Whom Ever Has A Easy Whirldry
MESSAGE: Does it spin or fill or drain? What does the timer or on/off switch look like? Well thanks in advance!
Best Washes
-James-
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Post# 20641-8/5/2002-18:02 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Double YAY!!
MESSAGE: Wow - that was quick! Hopefully you'll have those up and running very soon!
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Post# 20642-8/5/2002-18:12 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD -- 08/05/02....... Speed Queen Washer....
MESSAGE: From the model A78F brochure:
"Clothes are requiring more and more sorting. The average size load in the average family is not calling for a bigger and bigger tub. In fact, the opposite is true. The Speed Queen tub has the ideal capacity to handle the widest range of loads created by modern home laundering conditions."
That poor woman is just confused, she probably doesn't even know what this machine is for...
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Post# 20643-8/5/2002-18:26 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD -- 08/05/02....... Speed Queen Washer.... (Fun mid-60s washer stories)
MESSAGE: While waiting for Al to get off work last night, I watched an episode of "Gidget". Gidget's older married sister, whom Gidget visited, had just gotten a brand new 1965 Frigidaire Custom Imperial washer in turquoise! She also obtained from her mother in law a large stack of trading stamp books so "she could get a dryer."
Oddly, the lid was standing up like a Sears machine, and the sister was reading the operating instructions, which I could see were for an RCA Whirlpool dryer (LOL). She started the machine and you could see it pulsating (they must have been using sound effects; it sounded NOTHING like a Frigidaire!) afterwhich she discovered the cat licking the frosting off a cake she just baked. She shooed the cat and it went toward the washer and accidentally bounced off the pulsating jetcone and went scampering to the corner.
She couldn't figure out how to turn off the machine because it was "automatic", so her husband began pulling it out to unplug it. He pulled it very gingerly, but of course this being tv, he loosened one of the fill hoses in the process as his wife had warned him he would, and it did one of those out of control fire hose deals, soaking everyone in the kitchen, and then the camera went to a great close up of the kitty, soaked and looking very unhappy, on the kitchen floor.
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Post# 20644-8/5/2002-18:28 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD -- 08/05/02....... Speed Queen Washer....
MESSAGE: This was very similar to the SQ my aunt had, hers was probably a few years later than this - possibly a reversing motor baby in the early 70's.
The '66 would have still had the "giant solenoids" as they were billed, big bang and off she spins!
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Post# 20645-8/5/2002-18:34 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: To Whom Ever Has A Easy Whirldry
MESSAGE: This is a manual washer. There is a hose that has a spout that fits over the faucet to fill it, and then for water changes, it doubles as the drain hose when you lay it into the sink or bucket. The wash/spin basket is on a shaft from the transmission underneath, in the lower position, the basket will agitate back and forth. For spin, there is a release button on the top of the basket shaft which allows you pull it up off of the agitate gear and onto the spin shaft, you restart the machine and it 'whirls' the water out of the clothes. Consumer reports all but spit on this machine, too small, spin was completely ineffective (hand wringing removed more water) and washability was poor at best. Another case of Consumer Reports hating a machine that is just too cute to pass up! Despite their bashing, lots of these units were sold between 1946 and 1949.
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Post# 20646-8/5/2002-18:39 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: To Whom Ever Has A Easy Whirldry
MESSAGE: Greg, is the Whirldry electric, or manual?
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Post# 20647-8/5/2002-18:53 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: To Whom Ever Has A Easy Whirldry (Question for good ol' Gansky1)
MESSAGE: Where is the the button on the shaft? What is the RPM of this cutey?
Best Washes
-James-
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Post# 20648-8/5/2002-19:22 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: To Whom Ever Has A Easy Whirldry
MESSAGE: It's electric, there is a motor and tranny under the tub.
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Post# 20649-8/5/2002-19:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: To Whom Ever Has A Easy Whirldry (Question for good ol' Gansky1)
MESSAGE: The button is right at the top of the shaft, on the side.
I'm not sure what the RPM is during spin - not fast for sure. Since this little guy has no suspension or springs to absorb the forces of spinning, and is not bolted to the counter, I would guess the rpm is pretty low.
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Post# 20650-8/5/2002-19:42 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: YAY!
MESSAGE: Well, this means we're goin' to Maryland in the van. And guess what LUCKY person gets to sit in the back with THEM on the way back to Georgia. I'll be "Poppy"ing my button fur sure all the way home. Cuddling with the Frigiedaires!!!!!!
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Post# 20651-8/5/2002-19:43 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: YAY! (Congratulations)
MESSAGE: Oh & BTW, Steve, Congrats!!! big time. I'll at least get to play with the brown 1/18 pair and fantasize they're poppy red while I'm there.
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Post# 20652-8/5/2002-19:44 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: YAY! (Congrads!)
MESSAGE: Greg, it's a very rich, unique, and sexy color.
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Post# 20653-8/5/2002-19:46 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: MAN I AM MAD! (The Maytag)
MESSAGE: Jamie, is this a Dependable Care Maytag or a Performa Maytag. There IS a difference.
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Post# 20654-8/5/2002-19:49 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Double YAY!!
MESSAGE: Pardon my ignorance, but can't some expert fabricate a reproduction?
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Post# 20655-8/5/2002-19:51 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: MAN I AM MAD! (The Maytag)
MESSAGE: It is a Dependable Care Maytag. Just curious, What is the difference?
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Post# 20656-8/5/2002-19:51 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: MAN I AM MAD! (The Maytag)
MESSAGE: It's probably a Performa (Norge descent) Maytag. Those don't last as long? My mom has a Dependable Care and it runs like a charm even though it needs belts.
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Post# 20657-8/5/2002-19:53 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: To Whom Ever Has A Easy Whirldry (Question for good ol' Gansky1)
MESSAGE: Ummmmmmm... Sorry if I am being annoying. But, there is still a cloud as thick and hard as a Diamond in front of me.
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Post# 20658-8/5/2002-19:56 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: YAY! (YAY! yeah yeah)
MESSAGE: FIGHT!! FIGHT!!!! FIGHT!!! Is it the Carrington women or the Ewing women that will be in persona?
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Post# 20659-8/5/2002-19:57 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: To Whom Ever Has A Easy Whirldry (Sorry But, Part 2)
MESSAGE: Do you raise it a little or something?
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Post# 20660-8/5/2002-19:58 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: To Whom Ever Has A Easy Whirldry (Sorry But, Part 2)
MESSAGE: I am terribly confused.
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Post# 20661-8/5/2002-19:59 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD -- 08/05/02....... Speed Queen Washer....
MESSAGE: See, I knew the King of sorting wasn't crazy. I alwaays ended up with smaller loads than fit into the machine. Hence, me today, saving laundry for a month or more.
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Post# 20662-8/5/2002-20:03 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: MAN I AM MAD! (The Maytag)
MESSAGE: The Dependable Care Maytag has the porcelain tub, is based on the tried and true old-fashioned Maytag automatic washers that held up well. The Performa model is based on a Norge design, has a plastic tub, and is known to have transmission problems.
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Post# 20663-8/5/2002-20:10 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: MAN I AM MAD! (The Maytag)
MESSAGE: Oh, Duh! I should of realized why they didn't shine at the store!
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Post# 20664-8/5/2002-21:54 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: YAY! (Double YAY!!)
MESSAGE: Congratulations Steve on the Poppy set. I remember seeing a set of these at Marshall Fields when they first came out and I thought they were beautiful!! I know that you will give them a great home. Sure looking forward to seeing you and Rhinne again!! Terry
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Post# 20665-8/5/2002-22:40 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: YAY! (Double YAY!!)
MESSAGE: How fun to learn Terry that Field's was a Frigidaire dealer. That was long prior to their connection with the Dayton-Hudson-Target Corporation. Dayton's (today known as Marshall Fields, will always be Dayton's to us old timers) ;-) carried Whirlpool, GE, Admiral, Westinghouse, KitchenAid (who really only had dishwashers and mixers then), AMC and Hardwick gas ranges.
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Post# 20666-8/5/2002-23:59 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: To Whom Ever Has A Easy Whirldry (Sorry But, Part 2)
MESSAGE: That's exactly right, you pull the wash basket up into the spin position, restart the motor (just an on-off switch for the motor) and your clothes are whirled dry in no time!
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Post# 20667-8/5/2002-00:40 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: POD -- 08/05/02....... Speed Queen Washer....
MESSAGE: I can tell you the year exactly - 1969.
This is the self same washer I spoke of in Post #19462: "Mom's First Washing Machine". We had the matching dryer, but Mother did not buy the machine in the POD because the only one in stock was avocado, and wouldnt have matched the dryer, which was white, and the only one in stock. Instead, we had to settle for the next model down.
For those of you who guessed correctly, the washer does have the banging solenoids for sure. The motor kept running all through the cycle, even during fill, something I thought was unusual for a top loader. Instead of a lint filter, you had an overflow rinse at the end of both the wash and rinse cycles - the overflow of water carried away the lint...no filter to clean. Then, with no pause in action whatsoever, the solenoids would bang, and the tub would commence spinning. The solid steel tub was not perforated, so again, centrifugal force would hoist the water over the top of the inner tub, although there was also an opening under the agitator to help things along. Durable Press cooldown (McGraw Edison used that term, rather than the more common Permanent Press) consisted of nothing more than keeping the water for the overflow rinse running during the first spin cycle, thereby spraying the clothes with cold water rather than soaking them; the valve shut off mere seconds before the brake engaged for the rinse portion; just long enough to wring out the excess water and get the tub up to nominal speed.
Being as mad about gadgets as I was, if I happened to be close by the machine when doing a load on Durable Press, I would make my own elaborate cycle, moving the speed selector to Gentle as the first overflow rinse started, leaving it there for the first spin, moving it back to Brisk for the rinse cycle, letting the final rinse begin at Brisk, then moving it back to Gentle late in the final spin. I used the Durable Press cycle for delicates, as well, selecting a Gentle speed for the entire cycle.
That tub brake, I didnt like at all. You think belt-driven Kenmores, Whirlpools and Maytags of the day were poor at braking? Our SQ could take as long as 20 to 25 seconds to come to a complete stop, an eternity compared to, say, a GE. Thanks to Raytheon, for putting in a brake with more muscle and more grab. At least it was not a loud brake. It made a sound similar to striking a match when it first engaged, then you would hear the sound of something smooth rubbing against the steel tub.
There was a Soak cycle, which was really SQ's rendition of a prewash. You had a brief agitation interval, and no overflow rinse; it would immediately bang into spin, after which it shut off. But, on the TOL model you see in the POD, I *believe* the 4th knob to the left was some kind of defeater that worked with the Soak cycle, switching off the machine after agitation so that it did not drain and leaving the machine in that state until the defeater was moved back to Off, making it a true Soak cycle. Could one of you who said you have manuals from that time check that out to see if I am even close? Post a reply to set me straight if Im wrong.
The console on the dryer had only a few things different from the washer pictured in the POD. You cant tell from the b/w photo, but the brown band is simulated wood grain. It had only one knob to the left, a Fabric Selector with 5 temperature settings. It had the little switch you see to the far right of the big timer dial; this switch when pressed and held down, lit up the fluorescent work lamp. On the dryer, there was a similar switch just to the left of the timer dial - the safety start switch. Although this was the TOL dryer, it had no electronic sensor that I can recall, although it *DID* have a 3-position automatic cycle, and it had no end-of-cycle signal, although the timer made a harsh buzzing noise when engaged, and clicked loudly when it reached the Off position - I guess that had to suffice...Also, it had no extended cooldown to prevent wrinkles from setting in. When it was done, it was done.
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Post# 20668-8/5/2002-01:02 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: POD -- 08/05/02....... Speed Queen Washer....
MESSAGE: One of my aunts had a SQ of similar vintage. The temp and speed controls were arranged around the timer, rather than horizontally across the panel. The timer was backlit (incandescent). I don't recall a soak cycle, only Normal and Durable Press.
I loved that machine, so different from our Whirlpool. The powerful thrumming sound of the motor throughout the entire cycle was very distinctive, as were the solonoids.
It had a agitator-mounted softener dispenser that they didn't use. I always put it on whenever we visited, and my uncle would pull it back off, grousing that "We don't use this." Then they eventually hid it away somewhere. :-(
Being time-filled, it only had load-size selections for wash, and rinse always filled completely. I thought that was rather wasteful, and I recall my aunt said she had called the dealer to question about that (she had grown up with a Whirlpool).
I liked switching the speeds during the cycle -- Brisk and Gentle, Fast and Slow -- to see the difference.
Such a fun machine.
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Post# 20669-8/5/2002-01:13 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD -- 08/05/02....... Speed Queen Washer....
MESSAGE: There would have been no tub brake on the A77 & A78, Speed Queen did not have tub brakes until the reversing-motor (DAxxxx) series machines beginning in 1970. 1969 was the end of the solenoid shifting, "A" line of washers. The controls were for agitation and spin speed, wash and rinse temps, and the light switch on the right side of the timer. In the TOL model for 1970 there was a soak timer that could be set to soak for up to 24 hours. There were two other models of this TOL 'A' series, the water-saver and a low pressure fill, controlled by overfilling with water tripping a pressure switch in the outer tub, with a pushbutton to the left of the timer for water level override.
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Post# 20670-8/6/2002-02:42 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Easy Whirldry
MESSAGE: Hi James.
"I managed to MAKE my parents let me bid on it."
How did you "MAKE" them do that? Was it blackmail, torture or just a good old-fashioned face-on-the-floor tantrum?? :)
Good luck with your bid, James. I hope you win the auction.
It looks like a very fun machine.
Chris.
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Post# 20671-8/6/2002-04:59 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Double YAY!! (Torque Spring)
MESSAGE: I thought the same thing (great minds, huh?) but when I took one out of the box, I must say, I've never seen anything quite like it. Will have to post a picture.
Steve (1-18)
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Post# 20672-8/6/2002-07:54 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: POD -- 08/05/02....... Speed Queen Washer.... (DADoES)
MESSAGE: The arrangement of temp and speed controls around the timer dial sounds similar to the washer we had, except ours had no lighted dial or work lamp.
As to the fabric softener dispenser, Mother used it most, and was most careful about removing it when unloading or when she didnt need it. Strangely enough, when washing bleach safe items, she would put bleach in the thing. I used it not as much, and my sister never used it, although she would keep it in place when doing a load.
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Post# 20673-8/6/2002-08:03 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: POD -- 08/05/02....... Speed Queen Washer.... (gansky1)
MESSAGE: So the reversible motor came into play as early as 1970...I had originally guessed about 1975. I based that on an episode of "Eight is Enough" where the family hires a genius college student studying some kind of difficult math or science discipline as either a housekeeper or a nanny. The running joke is that he is TOO smart and approaches everything too logically, including doing laundry. Anyway, he is fascinated by the safety lid switch on the Bradfords' '73-'75 SQ, which stops all action when the lid is lifted. That show was the first time I saw a Speed Queen operate like that and I didnt witness that kind of action again until we moved into an apartment that had a spanking new 1983 Raytheon-built model.
Did the new sound you hear on Raytheon models also get introduced back in the 70s when the reversible motor came in?
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Post# 20674-8/6/2002-08:09 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD -- 08/05/02....... Speed Queen Washer.... (DADoES)
MESSAGE: Have you ever seen the lint filter attachment that went over the agitator? They are fun to watch, but during the overflow wash & rinse periods, most of the lint is flushed out!
I think it would be dangerous to use the softener dispenser for bleach, dribbling out on the bottom of the load after the first spin might cause some bleach damage.
dadoes posted a short video of the Speed Queen filter after last year's convention in Minneapolis, here's a link:
LINK: http://users.wcnet.net/dadoes/minne/fridaynight.htm
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Post# 20675-8/6/2002-08:32 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD -- 08/05/02....... Speed Queen Washer.... (gansky1)
MESSAGE: I used to watch that show all the time and I missed the best episode!
I'm not sure what the mechanical changes of the Raytheon machines were, what year did Raytheon take over? I have service stuff all the way into the 80's, I can check. The reversing motor machines I've had had a very smooth tub brake that was pretty quiet. Of the perforated basket machines I've seen, the tub brake was faster yet and had a more distinct sound too.
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Post# 20676-8/6/2002-14:12 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: POD -- 08/05/02....... Speed Queen Washer....
MESSAGE: Yes Eddy, it's a real beauty. I would love to play with one sometime.
Louis
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Post# 20677-8/6/2002-14:18 ||| lkanon (USA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Filter-Flo Washing Machine from 1957 (Message for Foraloysius (Louis))
MESSAGE: Hello there Louis,
Same here. Nice to hear that there is
another Louis out there and in Holland!
Are you an American?
This club seems to be a favourite for all
ages and sexes, right?
Regards,
Louis
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Post# 20678-8/6/2002-14:33 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: POD -- 08/05/02....... Speed Queen Washer.... (DADoES)
MESSAGE: Really funny to see my laundry being done again after a year. I loved how the lint was balled together in that filter. And then suddenly the ball of lint disappeared. I guess that was a self cleaning lint filter "avant la lettre".
Louis
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Post# 20679-8/6/2002-14:36 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Filter-Flo Washing Machine from 1957 (Message for Foraloysius (Louis))
MESSAGE: Hi Louis,
No, I'm not an American, I was born in the Netherlands, but I do have a thing for the US.
Yes, this club is for all ages and sexes, but some groups are a little more present than others LOL.
Louis
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Post# 20680-8/6/2002-14:40 ||| lkanon (USA)
SUBJECT: Message for Foraloysius (Louis)
MESSAGE: Louis,
What do you mean by LOL?
Louis
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Post# 20681-8/6/2002-14:56 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Message for Foraloysius (Louis)
MESSAGE: LOL means Laugh Out Loud. (AOL Thing)
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Post# 20682-8/6/2002-15:03 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Message for Foraloysius (Louis)
MESSAGE: LOL means Laughing Out Loud
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Post# 20683-8/6/2002-15:21 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD -- 08/05/02....... Speed Queen Washer....
MESSAGE: Do the reversing motor machines still fill with the motor running, or did they perhaps continue the solenoid style longer in commercial machines? I remember some Speed Queen coinops that were made after 1970 that most definitely filled with the motor running.
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Post# 20684-8/6/2002-18:58 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Question for Uni.
MESSAGE: Are any new wings to be opened soon? If yes, What are They? I hope Frigidaire with movies on all of the washers!
Best Washes
-James-
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Post# 20685-8/6/2002-20:10 ||| TrainGuy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: DI-57 Restoration Question
MESSAGE: I know I will probably never find the temperature selector knob or the motor assembly for this dryer. However, to continue the restoration of the appearance, I need some advice. The two bottom chrome trim pieces and the chrome filtrator faceplate have like a silver paint on the louvers. When I try to clean these pieces, the paint starts to come off. What did you guys do with the same chrome kickplate on the WI-57 washers you have?
I haven't sent the porcelain pieces to have them redone yet. I hope to find the matching washer someday and will have the dryer reporcelained in the matching color. He claims he can exactly match the Mayfair Pink color. I have seen a completely restored stove and he does an exceptional job.
Sorry I won't be able to attend the convention to personally meet anyone. Hope you all have a great time!
Thanks,
Rich
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Post# 20686-8/6/2002-21:00 ||| BsmntFullOSuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: Spin speeds
MESSAGE: Any modifications to increase the spin speed? Gear replacements possible? Any catastrophic failure mode could result from overspeed?
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Post# 20687-8/6/2002-21:07 ||| BsmntFullOSuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: Spin speeds (Spin Speeds)
MESSAGE: Have a BOL 1993-94 Kenmore, if that's modifiable.
Any washer drivetrains that lend themselves to high performance mods better than others?
Crank it up 'til the tub shoots out the top of the cabinet!
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Post# 20688-8/6/2002-21:32 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: POD -- 08/05/02....... Speed Queen Washer.... (What was purpose?)
MESSAGE: Hello everyone!
Was there a purpose for the motors running the entire time? Did it do something while it was running and the washer was filling?
I would love to hear one change cycles. The videos of the one washing from Dadoes are cool. Was there a video of it changing gears into spin? Want to make sure that I did not miss any.
Night.
Brent
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Post# 20689-8/6/2002-22:25 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD -- 08/05/02....... Speed Queen Washer....
MESSAGE: Gadgetmad, I did the same thing with commercial SQ washers when in college when washing PP or DP. People in the laundry rooms thought I was mad, but I did not care. I got the type of action I wasnted. In fact, I'd shif to gentle during the first overflow rinse. On commercial SQs, the spin speed was alway fast, noot a slow option at all. Just simply gentle or brisk agitation.
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Post# 20690-8/6/2002-22:35 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: DI-57 Restoration Question
MESSAGE: Rich, I too am sorry you won't be with us. I look forward to the day when we will meet in person. And BTW, I'm sure lots and lots of photos will be taken a posted so you can live the convention through the photographer's lense vicariously.
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Post# 20691-8/6/2002-00:29 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: POD -- 08/05/02....... Speed Queen Washer.... (bleach in the dispenser)
MESSAGE: Mother didnt know what the ^(*# she wuz doin'
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Post# 20692-8/6/2002-00:31 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: POD -- 08/05/02....... Speed Queen Washer.... (reversing motor)
MESSAGE: The motor shuts off during fill, and there is the usual pause before spin.
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Post# 20693-8/6/2002-00:34 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: POD -- 08/05/02....... Speed Queen Washer.... (to brent aucoin)
MESSAGE: yeah, much more interesting stuff than the reversible models which are pretty crapping boring.
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Post# 20694-8/7/2002-07:52 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: DI-57 Restoration Question
MESSAGE: Hi Rich -
Sorry you won't be at the convention, was looking forward to meeting you - next year we won't take no for an answer!
I believe the bottom of the WI-57 washer is molded/formed aluminum and has no paint on it. Could yours have been painted by the previous owner for some reason?
Don't give up on the motor and other parts you need - I know you can get a motor/fan on the SD farm from a 58 Filtrator still out there.
Take care - Greg
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Post# 20695-8/7/2002-07:57 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Spin speeds (Spin Speeds)
MESSAGE: With several machines, there are different sized pulleys that can be installed to make the machines run faster. I did this with my Maytag A906, the 50 cycle motor pulley (stocked for overseas use) will make the washer agitate and spin faster which is a great improvement in the performance. I believe there is also a smaller pulley for the Kenmore, if you are coming to the convention, ask John Lefever as I think he's modified a KM this way. The older Speed Queen washers had a smaller spin pulley on the commercial machines that a couple of us have been looking for to raise the spin speed.
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Post# 20696-8/7/2002-08:03 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD -- 08/05/02....... Speed Queen Washer.... (What was purpose?)
MESSAGE: Hi Brent -
The motor ran while the machine was filling so the pump would carry away any water that spilled over the top of the tub and into the outer tub. In the reversing motor machines, if the motor was running, it was either agitating or spinning so there was no "neutral" as in the solenoid shifting machines.
My 54 Speed Queen starts to fill and after two minutes the motor starts for the balance of the fill period before starting the wash agitation. In the rinse, it does the same thing although there is a 3 minute overflow before agitation begins.
Have a good day - Greg
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Post# 20697-8/7/2002-08:03 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD -- 08/05/02....... Speed Queen Washer.... (bleach in the dispenser)
MESSAGE: Well, that explains it then! ;-)
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Post# 20698-8/7/2002-08:07 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: DI-57 Restoration Question
MESSAGE: And lots of video will be taken by me with my Digital Sony.
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Post# 20699-8/7/2002-09:31 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: POD -- 08/05/02....... Speed Queen Washer.... (What was purpose?)
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg,
That sounds like smart "overflow" rinse. I can just picture the the clothes stuck to the side of the tub while it is filling for the rinse, "overflowing" what was lint, etc. floating in the tub to the outer tub with the pump pumping it down the drain. Sounds interesting.
Brent
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Post# 20700-8/7/2002-09:43 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Question for Uni.
MESSAGE: Hi Jamie, I do want to open the Frigidaire wing soon, but its going to be mostly pictures at first because movies are very time consuming to do. Especially now with a new puppy in the house, there is not much time for movie making. But someday we will have lots of videos to see.
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Post# 20701-8/7/2002-09:44 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: DI-57 Restoration Question
MESSAGE: Hi Rich, the panels on both my WI-57 and DI-57 washer and dryer are made out of alumnium and are not painted.
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Post# 20702-8/7/2002-10:51 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Spin speeds (no hope for DD)
MESSAGE: 93-94? Chances are this is a direct drive machine. I think you are stuck with the performance you have...
-ph
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Post# 20703-8/7/2002-12:26 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: DI-57 Restoration Question
MESSAGE: Goody!! because I don't have enough MemorySticks for my camera to do video clips on top of all the still shots that will be required.
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Post# 20704-8/7/2002-16:07 ||| lkanon (USA)
SUBJECT: Message for Unimatic1140
MESSAGE: Hi again,
Have the model no. for the GE Filter-Flo washing machine
from 1958? Do you still have a picture of the original
manual it came with?
Thanks, Louis
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Post# 20705-8/7/2002-16:47 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Convention soon! need help
MESSAGE: I'm going to be arriving pretty early Friday 11:15am. Is there gonna be someone there or at John's house close to the hotel when I get there? I'm guessing the shuttle takes about 30-45mins so I'd be there around 12noon.
Also, my plane Sunday night leaves at 7:00. Will I have enough time to see Bob Wirth's house? Will someone be so kind as to give me a ride back to the BWI or at least the hotel so I can shuttle to the airport?
Thanks for all your help. I can't wait to finally meet you all!
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Post# 20706-8/7/2002-19:32 ||| nmaineman36 (Portland Maine)
SUBJECT: RE: POD -- 08/05/02....... Speed Queen Washer.... (What was purpose?)
MESSAGE: I can remember the Speed Queens my mom had..the first one was a solenoid type. It would fill and the motor didnt start until the timer moved from fill to wash. Then from wash right into spin and not miss a beat. My parents had that washer for 10 years and it was still running when they got rid of it. The pump was leaking and my dad didnt realize all he had to do was get a gasket for it. It came with the lint filter and that was cool hearing the sloshing noise during agitate. Ours the lint always stayed in the pan even though the water from the overflow would flood it. I do miss that overflow feature because there wasnt any residue left on the clothes. And the first Speed Queen was very good at ejecting the sand from the bottom.
The 2nd SpeedQueen was bought in 76 and it lasted a whole 6 years. This washer was a lemon to begin with. First the motor died after 5 months. Replaced that and then a year later the ejector tube came off the tub. Had to replace the Tub. Then the Boot between the outer tub and the moving support for the inner tub cracked and water was all over the place. replaced that and then the pump seals wore out. Replaced that and then a year later the trnasmission cracked in half. Got rid of the washer. So much green ooze came out. I was washing for 7 people at the time and it got a work out. The tub was smooth as glass when it got thrown out.Amazing how stainless steel gets smother with use.
Mike
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Post# 20707-8/7/2002-20:15 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: POD -- 08/05/02....... Speed Queen Washer.... (So much for a new machine?)
MESSAGE: Darn,
I am sure that your dad had said several times "so much for a new machine." Did you old Speedy get traded in? Or was it sent to the crusher?
Brent
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Post# 20708-8/7/2002-20:18 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: Where is everyone?
MESSAGE: Is everyone getting ready for the convention?
I am so excited!
Are all of you doing your wash now, or waiting till you get heaps of laundry piles for next week to wash before you leave for the convention? Or...Are you waiting to bring it to the convention to have fun in all of these wonderfull machines that we will be seeing.
Can't wait to meet everyone!
Brent
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Post# 20709-8/7/2002-20:23 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Where is everyone?
MESSAGE: Brent, my suitcase is already packed with dirty laundry--which you'll see Sat. Poor clothes, they'll probably get washed & rewashed again. LOL
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Post# 20710-8/7/2002-20:28 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: DI-57 Restoration Question
MESSAGE: I'm even bringing a sing-use camera or two to take pics (dont' everyone fall out on the floor).
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Post# 20711-8/7/2002-20:50 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: DI-57 Restoration Question (Sing-Use?)
MESSAGE: What is a Sing-Use Camera?
Brent
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Post# 20712-8/7/2002-20:51 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Where is everyone?
MESSAGE: I hope that they don't mistake your luggage as a Litter-Bomb or something on the plane trip!
Brent
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Post# 20713-8/7/2002-21:50 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: DI-57 Restoration Question (Sing-Use?)
MESSAGE: single-use, disposable camera -- has film pre-loaded, take the shots, send in the whole thing for developing/prints.
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Post# 20714-8/7/2002-22:05 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: DI-57 Restoration Question (Sing-Use?)
MESSAGE: I could order some Super8mm film and bring my 1970 Bell & Howell Super8 camera and make it look really CLASSIC!
From super8 to Digital8
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Post# 20715-8/7/2002-22:17 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: DI-57 Restoration Question (Really? (Do I sound like Rose?))
MESSAGE: Do they really still make super 8 film?
I think that would be so cool.
Brent
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Post# 20716-8/7/2002-22:17 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: DI-57 Restoration Question (Sing-Use?)
MESSAGE: Oh!
Brent
I should have gotten that.
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Post# 20717-8/7/2002-22:25 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: DI-57 Restoration Question (Sing-Use?)
MESSAGE: A typo. I meant to type single-use camera (disposeable).
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Post# 20718-8/7/2002-22:27 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Where is everyone?
MESSAGE: I hope my luggage doesn't get lost. It has most of my summer casual wardrobe. Someone will be in for a surprise. But, they can wash all the stuff and have some nice clothes LOL. There are lots of bears in Atlanta, I'm sure someone would appreciate my clothes. LOL
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Post# 20719-8/7/2002-22:31 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Where is everyone? (Bears?)
MESSAGE: Correct me if I am wrong.
All of your clothes have Bears on them?
I am a little confused.
Brent
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Post# 20720-8/7/2002-22:56 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Where is everyone? (Bears?)
MESSAGE: Brent, I will send you an email explaining.
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Post# 20721-8/7/2002-23:31 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: DI-57 Restoration Question (Rich, I have a question.........)
MESSAGE: Do you mind telling me who does or will do reporcelainizing for you? Hope my terminology and spelling is correct.......
Thank you - GregM
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Post# 20722-8/7/2002-23:40 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: POD -- 08/05/02....... Speed Queen Washer.... ((reputation?))
MESSAGE: Hi Mike, I remember growing up and my mom always saying that speed queen were trouble machines.......she must have heard a couple bad things from a couple friends............ I guess the one your folks had before the "lemon" was decent........
GregM (nice to see someone else out here from NE)
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Post# 20723-8/7/2002-23:44 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Where is everyone? (Sing and take a pikcha)
MESSAGE: I won't be "singing" when I use my camera. Don't anyone make fun of my Boston accent eithaaaa...........
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Post# 20724-8/7/2002-00:07 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Where is everyone? (I won't!)
MESSAGE: I hope to pick up some of your Boston Accent! I hope to live in Boston one day!
I love it!
Brent
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Post# 20725-8/7/2002-00:49 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: POD -- 08/05/02....... Speed Queen Washer.... (rinse fill)
MESSAGE: Kewl action! Kinda sorta like the family SQ and others of its ilk Ive seen, which during the rinse phase started agitating while it was still filling. Water inlet continued for about a minute or so into the rinse. Boy, all that wasted water...Im sure environmentalists did *not* own Speed Queens.
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Post# 20726-8/7/2002-01:46 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Where is everyone? (Sing and take a pikcha)
MESSAGE: Greg, I won;'t be mmaking fun of your Boston accent. In fact, I fid it quite aluring. Besides, it will remind me of when I was a kid and the family down the street were from Boston. They had a WI57 Frigidaire too.
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Post# 20727-8/8/2002-09:01 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention soon! need help ( convention FUN news)
MESSAGE: I'll be ready and willing to have folks anytime of day ALL DAY Sunday. Hope to see many of you then. There'll even be appliances folks are taking home with them from here, so, If that's not exciting, I don't know what is. Click the link below to see a photo of the dryer Jon Charles is taking home with him...*(hint - the slant front machine). Walls and ceiling being painted as you read this message..(got lots o' drop cloths)..also note the 1956 Califone Director Strobselector hi-fi & public address system atop the 61 GE Mobile maid dishwasher, which is also about to go home with another lucky applianceville resident...
http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/HANKYPANKY/INDEX.htm
BOB
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/HANKYPANKY/INDEX.htm
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Post# 20728-8/8/2002-09:12 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: DI-57 Restoration Question (PHOTO CD SOUVENIRS)
MESSAGE: What an excellent idea I just had....If I can get my self together (and I usually can) I'd like to make a photo CD Souvenir for anyone who'd like to have one (of photo's taken the day of the convention). Digitally preserving these appliance images is vital to making the memorys last into the coming centuries, and verifies that our fantasies are indeed know to have sometimes been realities.
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Post# 20729-8/8/2002-09:43 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Soap Box Collectors
MESSAGE: Lever is on the move again...
Y'all better get to the store and stock up on Wisk. They changed their look again, I think they lightened up the pine scent of the powders, and there are fewer scoopfuls per box. The scent in the liquids have also changed (for the better, except for the HE), and there is a new sports scent.
ALL has now introduced 2 flavors of fabric softener and dryer sheets, along with an Oxiclean knock off.
-ph
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Post# 20730-8/8/2002-14:38 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: Kenmore on Ebay
MESSAGE: There's an Sears Kenmore 1970 washer with an Super Roto Swirl agitator on sale on Ebay. It's ok, but not the TOL....
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2044395773
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Post# 20731-8/8/2002-15:17 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD -- 08/05/02....... Speed Queen Washer.... (rinse fill)
MESSAGE: Actually, the Speed Queens were never really big water hogs. The normal cycle used only 33 gallons of water total, much better than GE of the same time which used 44, Maytag 39 and a whopping 57 gallons for a Westinghouse top-loader. During the energy cruch of the 70's, Speed Queen lowered the water usage by trimming time from the overflow phases.
Now, the 1954 Speed Queen I have does use a bit more water (43 gallons for 8lb load) with the long stationary overflow at the beginning of the rinse and the spin-spray rinses in each spin cycle. With the advancements made in detergents, this extra water wasn't required to flush away the soap scum as it was in the early automatic years when soap dominated the market.
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Post# 20732-8/8/2002-15:20 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention soon! need help ( convention FUN news)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the update on the plans and for opening your home to all of us. It sounds like a great time you have planned for us - I'm looking forward to seeing some of the machines and toys you have too!
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Post# 20733-8/8/2002-15:24 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore on Ebay
MESSAGE: I had this washer many years ago during my "summer of washers" when I bought my first townhouse/condo. I bought it from an appliance shop, now long gone, for $35 and repaired the missing spin shifter pin with a bent nail (worked perfectly) and used the washer for several months until I was on to the next brand. I always like the knobs on this vintage of machines, the push to start was something I'd never had before and I was thrilled to finally have my own Kenmore, and then was thrilled to have my own Wards/Norge a few months later and then, and then.....
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Post# 20734-8/8/2002-16:07 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore on Ebay
MESSAGE: Hi Greg and everyone,
Nice washer, looks in great shape !!, Hope it finds a nice home......
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Post# 20735-8/8/2002-17:28 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore on Ebay (Missing something?)
MESSAGE: Has anyone noticed anything missing off this washer?
She in great shape from what I could see, but there is one thing missing!
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Post# 20736-8/8/2002-17:31 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore on Ebay (:-()
MESSAGE: It's an angel of a washer but unfortunately I live too far away. Anyway, PeterH I'm sorry I can't make this weekend either :-(. If you can hold on to that Lady K a little longer I will come to get it. Thanks.
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Post# 20737-8/8/2002-17:32 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention soon! need help (Spike Jones)
MESSAGE: Yeah, and I can't wait to hear that Spike Jones "Dinner Music" record. He's the man.
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Post# 20738-8/8/2002-19:07 ||| TrainGuy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: DI-57 Restoration Question (The Porcelain Guy)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg,
The guy's name who does this and some info about his operation are on his web site in the link below. He quoted me $28.00 per square foot. That's why I decided to hold off until I get a matching washer.
Also I found out about the painted trim panels. They are chrome and weigh about 6 pounds each. Frigidaire painted the louvers silver so that when you stood at a distance, the bottom of the dryer appeared to mirror the washer. Kinda neat!
Rich
LINK: http://www.customceramic.com
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Post# 20739-8/8/2002-19:09 ||| TrainGuy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore on Ebay (Hey Jason ....)
MESSAGE: Jason,
I'm probably less than half an hour from this dryer. If you want it, I can store it for you.
Rich
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Post# 20740-8/8/2002-20:20 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: Kenmore On Ebay is MISSING..................
MESSAGE: The agitator cap! And probably it had the scrubber on it too!
Jimmy
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Post# 20741-8/8/2002-21:07 ||| spinme (florida)
SUBJECT: kenmore seris 90 1988
MESSAGE: I need to obtain a 1988 owner/installation manual for a 1988 Kenmore seris 90 washer. does anyone know where I can get one with out having the model number. Please contact me at mineolaw@aol.com
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Post# 20742-8/8/2002-21:13 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Soap Box Collectors
MESSAGE: Peter, I noticed the same thing only this week at my local market chain. The Wisk boxes have definitely been lightened up, but the only one I have seen so far is the Wisk with Bleach. I think the liquids have also been adjusted for fewer uses per bottle. Haven't seen the "All" products yet, though.
I did notice P&G is doing the same thing. Beginning with liquid Cheer (which I know is one of your faves (LOL), what was once the 100 ounce bottle is now 80 ounces and 2.5 quarts. Looks like we are going backward to when the liquids came in 2 quart containers. Of course the price has not dropped, though. Haven't seen this yet with other P&G liquids, but it is probably coming.....
I also noticed that Tide HE powder has shrunk from 47 uses to 31 uses, but the price has dropped some from $12.99 to $7.99.
I wonder what's next..............
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Post# 20743-8/8/2002-21:23 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: DI-57 Restoration Question (Great idea Bob)
MESSAGE: The Photo CD would be a great idea Bob, I would love to have one. Can't wait to see your neat collection and looking forward to meeting you. Terry
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Post# 20744-8/8/2002-21:41 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Soap Box Collectors
MESSAGE: Peter, the old boxes of Wisk were being gradually "wisked" off the shelves here and replaced with the new onces. I did notice less contents per box too. I've gone back to RF Fab for ordinatry laundry and will continue to use Wisk with bleach for those loads needing that. Also saw the new All FS for the first time last weekened, but it was only availble in the "refill" carton so I didn't get to "smell" it.
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Post# 20745-8/8/2002-21:47 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore on Ebay
MESSAGE: Thanks for the notice. The FS dispenser on top of agitator is missing. This is almost identical to the machine I had "selected" but that machine had variable water levels & 5 temp combos and a bleach dispenser. Otherwise control panel & such was identical. BUT, my mom preferred the fancier Model 800 so we got it instead.
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Post# 20746-8/8/2002-22:02 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention soon! need help ( convention FUN news)
MESSAGE: Bob, can't wait. I hope Jon doesn't pack up that slant front dryer b4 I can get to reaally eyeball since the matching L1120 lived across the street from me when I was a kid. Ideally, I wish I could dry a load in there b4 it gets carted off to Boston. And yes, the CD photo idea is terrific. Thanks. And, looking forward to meeting our other "Bob".
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Post# 20747-8/8/2002-22:04 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore On Ebay is MISSING..................
MESSAGE: Jimmy, those rubber prickly scrubber caps were not offerd on the gold rotoswirl agitatorss that I ever saw. Those ceased with the black bakelite agitators. What is missing is the agitator cap that did have some slights ribbs in it and had the Kenmore logo spamped on top of it.
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Post# 20748-8/8/2002-22:15 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore On Ebay is MISSING.................. (Kenmore Scrubber Caps)
MESSAGE: If I am not mistaken, my aunt's Kenmore 800 (with three speeds and alphabet timer and fluorescent light, but no keyboard) had a gold Rotoswirl *and* a scrubber cap. The scrubber got all grungy and disintegrated, so they took it off, leaving the white semi-translucent screw-on cap beneath. I think this machine was 1969-ish.
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Post# 20749-8/8/2002-23:00 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore On Ebay is MISSING.................. (Kenmore Scrubber Caps)
MESSAGE: I've seen the gold scrubber caps too - I may even have one packed away somewhere here, Jimmy, Peter and I took several of these scrubber caps from the farm, as well as the detergent cups that went on top too.
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Post# 20750-8/8/2002-23:05 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore On Ebay is MISSING.................. (Kenmore Scrubber Caps)
MESSAGE: I don't remember seeing a Kenmore 800 with an alphabet timer. The one I had didn't have it. It just had the 3 knobs, 2 switches and the gold rotoswirl.
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Post# 20751-8/8/2002-23:29 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore On Ebay is MISSING.................. (Kenmore Scrubber Caps)
MESSAGE: Left side of the console had a legend for the alphabet positions. Looked like buttons, but wasn't.
Right side had the timer and a rotary speed control (low/low, auto, ex-low/low).
Infinite water level was a horizontal lever at the bottom edge of the console, kinda toward the left side.
A water temp option lever was about mid-position along the bottom edge of the console -- auto, cold rinse, cold wash/rinse.
Maybe it wasn't designated an 800.
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Post# 20752-8/8/2002-00:40 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore On Ebay is MISSING.................. (gansky1)
MESSAGE: Any of those scrubber caps from the early-mid 1960s, and would you be willing to part with one?
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Post# 20753-8/8/2002-00:45 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore On Ebay is MISSING.................. (Kenmore Scrubber Caps)
MESSAGE: I had forgotten that model had a fluorescent work lamp. I do remember one on the '73 model (or was that '74?)
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Post# 20754-8/8/2002-00:46 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore On Ebay is MISSING.................. (Good guess guy!)
MESSAGE: The fabric softener dispenser is missing!
I'm not sure if it was a fixed mounted or removable, but I'm quite sure it was a fix mounted.
By looking in Sears parts department, it's listed in four sections: the stud, seal, cup rinse dispenser and the cover rinse dispenser.
I wished they sell the dispenser as a whole unit instead of seperate units. It would come out cheaper for us!
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Post# 20755-8/8/2002-00:49 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore on Ebay (You are the winner!)
MESSAGE: You got it!
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Post# 20756-8/8/2002-01:54 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore On Ebay is MISSING.................. (1968 Kenmore 800)
MESSAGE: Jason, here's a close match to my aunt's machine. The catalog description for this one says it has a RotoFlex instead of a RotoSwirl, otherwise they virtually identical.
LINK: http://users.wcnet.net/dadoes/1968_kenmore.jpg
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Post# 20757-8/9/2002-06:30 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: GET MORE FROM YOUR KENMORE
MESSAGE: Surely, some of you fellows have seen this square cardboard record which came with your new Kenmore machine. Does anyone know for sure the correct vintage of this record? I'm guessing 1954 to possibly '62 or so, but it would be nice to know for sure , don't you agree? Click the link to view the record surface with your eyes, and be sure to download the audio by clicking on the record itself so you can listen to what it looks like with your ears. Remember, this is a laminated cardboard record that's nearly 50 years old. It was a bit of a challenge to transcribe.
ENJOY.
IMPERIALBOB WIRTH
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/KENMORE/INDEX.htm
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Post# 20758-8/9/2002-06:46 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: DI-57 Restoration Question (PHOTO CD SOUVENIRS)
MESSAGE: Indeed. I was looking for someone to say GREAT IDEA and so, Now that you have, it's a done deal FOR SURE! I'll pack the disk up full with some other things too because 700 megs would be a lot of pictures, and as you'll find out, I'm very much into vintage music as well.
Did you all know I'm a working musician, playing in a backup band for a female impersonator...YES! Ester Goldberg & the Viagraz.. and I"m one of the original Viagraz...Click the link. I'm the trombone player & my Sweetie is the Drummer!
Looking forward to meeting you too, TERRY , and ALL of you really. I Love You, ALL.
BEST WISHES.
IMPERIALBOB WIRTH
LINK: http://www.estergoldberg.com/big-show/eg-0003b.htm
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Post# 20759-8/9/2002-07:05 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: Great Aunt Kenmore, Grandpa Kenmore and Old lady Bendix
MESSAGE: Great Aunt Kenmore, sister to Old Lady Whirlpool with her partner Grandpa Kenmore, and there's Old Lady Bendix to the right. Don'tcha just wanna hug 'em?
BOB
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/SMILE/INDEX.htm
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Post# 20760-8/9/2002-07:06 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: GET MORE FROM YOUR KENMORE (WHOA!!!!!!)
MESSAGE: That's a different version than the one I have. I have that same record but on mine, she doesn't sing as long. She only sings "This is the way we do our clothes..... Kenmore's wonderful action" and then she goes into the talking bit. Hmmm.... so there were different versions of this tune, maybe yours is older.
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Post# 20761-8/9/2002-07:12 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention soon! need help (Jon's SLANT FRONT....)
MESSAGE: I'm sure we'll turn the old machine on and off a couple of times to hear that great bell sound it makes, but there'll be no actual drying this time....door gasket issues prevent proper sealing and I prevent massive dust leaking into my studio here by not allowing such foolishness....(he he he)
I'm bucking for a new pair of Kenmore Elites, if the truth were known...or perhaps the whirlpool..but you know the ones I mean....man sized....big windows....
LINK: http://duet.whirlpool.com/
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Post# 20762-8/9/2002-07:15 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: GET MORE FROM YOUR KENMORE (DIFFERENT VERSIONS? of the square kenmore Lp)
MESSAGE: Far out! I wonder how many different versions we can determine were available?
Please bring your record with you to the convergence and let me transcribe it? Please? That'd be swell.
BOB
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Post# 20763-8/9/2002-07:52 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GET MORE FROM YOUR KENMORE (Go Jean, Go Jean....)
MESSAGE: I have one of these records also, came with a model 6461 Kenmore washer manual set.
You gotta love Jean Shaw....
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Post# 20764-8/9/2002-07:56 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Great Aunt Kenmore, Grandpa Kenmore and Old lady Bendix
MESSAGE: My grandmother had that Kenmore set - her first automatics. She got rid of the washer in 1957, but had the dryer until we sold their house in 1987. Can't wait to see them - what beautiful machines!
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Post# 20765-8/9/2002-08:05 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore On Ebay is MISSING.................. (1968 Kenmore 800)
MESSAGE: The one pictured is a 68. Sears had lots of machines that were never pictured in the catalog, special deals, limited editions, etc. that were intended for retail stores, catalog stores, rather than shipped from a catalog distribution center. Many times these machines were full of TOL features at a mid-line price point. I've seen a couple of these at my Launderall dealers over the last couple of years.
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Post# 20766-8/9/2002-08:07 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore On Ebay is MISSING.................. (gansky1)
MESSAGE: Golly, I don't even know where to start looking - remind me after the convetion and I'll see what's out there. The problem with the ones on the farm is that they were so dried out, most of them are just for "pretty" now.
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Post# 20767-8/9/2002-08:13 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: GET MORE FROM YOUR KENMORE (mp3)
MESSAGE: I already have it transcribed to mp3 format. Believe it or not, I set it on my Dual 604 turntable, taped the edged down, and the Ortofon OM-5e did a great job at tracking. I'll try to upload it to my web host today so you can listen to it. My copy has more scratches on it.
One can only imagine what beautiful Kenmore machine this record came with.
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Post# 20768-8/9/2002-08:26 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore on Ebay (:-()
MESSAGE: Not a problem. She has developed a blockage and I need to give her a high colonic (she mysteriously stopped draining), so that will give me time to work on her.
-ph
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Post# 20769-8/9/2002-08:29 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Soap Box Collectors
MESSAGE: Look very closely at the boxes. It is very subtle between the bleach, regular and free. They are setting themselves up for lots of confusion.
-ph
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Post# 20770-8/9/2002-08:34 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore on Ebay (OUCH!)
MESSAGE: :-(
That sounds painful. Maybe she's getting impatient because I haven't rescued her yet.
Be gentle with her.
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Post# 20771-8/9/2002-09:37 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: DI-57 Restoration Question (Great idea Bob)
MESSAGE: The Photo CD would indeed be cool. If you make them, sign me up for one too!
Louis
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Post# 20772-8/9/2002-13:11 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: One more week!
MESSAGE: Can you believe it? It's almost that time!
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Post# 20773-8/9/2002-14:40 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: One more week!
MESSAGE: yay! Can't wait to see old friends and meet new friends!
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Post# 20774-8/9/2002-15:20 ||| calypso bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: One more week!
MESSAGE: I can't wait either. Anyone going on Thursday?. I will be arriving on Wednesday to help John L. with last minute prep work. See you all there
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Post# 20775-8/9/2002-16:00 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Last Minute, But Can I Bring...
MESSAGE: One Week! I bet it is going to seem like a year though! Well, down to buisness. Can I bring a 9 inch tall washer that just got delivered from ebay? I think you guys will like it a lot. It is a Litte Countertop Frontloader! It works but it still has one little bug. The motor is a tad weak. And I bet you will never guess who made it! Lets see if you can guess what company...
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Post# 20776-8/9/2002-16:00 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Last Minute, But Can I Bring...
MESSAGE: One Week! I bet it is going to seem like a year though! Well, down to buisness. Can I bring a 9 inch tall washer that just got delivered from ebay? I think you guys will like it a lot. It is a Litte Countertop Frontloader! It works but it still has one little bug. The motor is a tad weak. And I bet you will never guess who made it! Lets see if you can guess what company...
Best Washes
-Jamie-
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Post# 20777-8/9/2002-16:11 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Last Minute, But Can I Bring...
MESSAGE: Tide?
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Post# 20778-8/9/2002-16:56 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Last Minute, But Can I Bring... (OH MY GOSH!)
MESSAGE: How did you know?! Did I give too many hints? Oh well, yes that is right.
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Post# 20779-8/9/2002-16:56 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Last Minute, But Can I Bring... (OH MY GOSH!)
MESSAGE: How did you know?! Did I give too many hints? Oh well, yes that is right.
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Post# 20780-8/9/2002-17:02 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Great Aunt Kenmore, Grandpa Kenmore and Old lady Bendix
MESSAGE: What does the inside of the beautiful washers look like?
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Post# 20781-8/9/2002-19:26 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: One more week!
MESSAGE: I'll be there Friday around 12:00 and if John's house is close to the hotel, I can meet yall for an early start.
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Post# 20782-8/9/2002-19:33 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Great Aunt Kenmore, Grandpa Kenmore and Old lady Bendix (Cool!)
MESSAGE: And that cool little record player too! So do you play your records when you wash? Pretty cool listening to music while watching the washers run.
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Post# 20783-8/9/2002-19:43 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: The beautiful Kenmores
MESSAGE: Tonight is my usual wash-in. The towels are drying, the clothes are tumbling in Sir Frigemore and the Little Lady is of course washing the sheets. I was just sitting there on the stool watching her wash the clothes with the small 3 vane agitator and just thinking: If it hadn't been for me taking her in, she'd right now be on the way to the Krusher and another classic appliance GONE forever! The Krusher doesn't care if she works or not, not even what kind of sound the wigwag makes. When Krusher's hungry, he eats precious little Kenmores like her for lunch. No more 35 minutes of joy, no more whine, not more grind-click-clunk. Just twisted metal after Krusher's horrible bite :-( . I'd hate to think of any of my washers having that kind of fate. Not even that Whirlpool I used to have, who is ripping away at my cousin's house. Yes, I visited him and he's doing just fine.
Be kind to your Kenmores people.
By this time next week we'll be having the big wash-in.
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Post# 20784-8/9/2002-20:48 ||| Jeff_Adelphi (Adelphi Maryland)
SUBJECT: Convention Opener in Adelphi
MESSAGE: It's Friday night here in Adelphi, and this time next week we'll be getting together with Jeff's front loaders, food and drinks through the evening --starting around 6. Top loaders not forgoten, though, with John's collecion of agitators -- there'll be a chance to see how many you know. Name tags, maps to other locations, all that. (Bring last year's name tag if you have it, and can remember, for this year's sticker --and, dirty laundry always welcome.)
Jeff and Cal's house: 11104 Cherry Hill Road --you'll know when you see it. On the left, one mile around the corner at the Home Depot across I-95 from the Holiday Inn. Or, a half-mile over the hill from the Fairfield Inn, Cherry Hill Road is the second light at the Shell Station. If you get lost, 301-937-3251.
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Post# 20785-8/9/2002-21:27 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Great Aunt Kenmore, Grandpa Kenmore and Old lady Bendix
MESSAGE: Bob, I may just hug every one of them. Just like I did with all the machine's in Uni's basement. (Nobody knew this because, since I missed the Friday nite gathering last year and Robert was upstairs taking a nap and leaving me to play in the basement Saturday afternoon and do my laundry), I hugged every machine.
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Post# 20786-8/9/2002-21:30 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention soon! need help (Jon's SLANT FRONT....)
MESSAGE: I fully understand, but ring my chimes anyway. I'll probably get a-wested for all the excitement of hearing those chimes one more time. And yes, I know the man-size machines you're referring to. Good luck. But, won't dare mention the H word (hettie) LOL.
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Post# 20787-8/9/2002-21:58 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention Opener in Adelphi
MESSAGE: Well, I NEVER got a name tag for last year. Greg forgot it. So ..... Please????? YES, more front loaders (and aren't some of them combos???, I seem to remember that discussion at brunch with Cal.
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Post# 20788-8/9/2002-21:59 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention Opener in Adelphi
MESSAGE: Instead, I think I'll bring last year's t-shirt.
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Post# 20789-8/10/2002-06:26 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: Saturday's POD
MESSAGE: If you look closely at the bottom picture, I believe the chart is resting on a Maytag combo machine.
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Post# 20790-8/10/2002-08:34 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Saturday's POD
MESSAGE: It looks like a front loader, and of course, no window. Or did it have a window?
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Post# 20791-8/10/2002-09:11 ||| BsmntFullOSuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: The beautiful Kenmores
MESSAGE: Perhaps someone should start an washer / dryer recycling business. That would save some Kenmores from the crusher. Can machines be reconditioned and sold to the general public with warranty, for a price that competes with new?
Of course along with all the 10-20 year old machines, such a business would acquire quite a few classics too. Storage space, parts, chrome re-plating and porcelain coating should cost less in quantity, and parts counters might spend more time researching long out-of-production parts for a high-volume business customer than for a DIY'er restoring one or two washers.
Old storefront appliance stores with the original signs might be able to be rented cheap in some areas. I wonder if any landlords would be willing to rent for free just so the building is not vacant. For example there is a storefront in center city Allentown, PA with neon Fridigaire letters on brushed stainless steel background over the storefront. Think it was vacant last time I looked, but the facade looks really nice and might even be worth saving should the building be demolished.
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Post# 20792-8/10/2002-09:25 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention Opener in Adelphi (T-SHIRTS!!!)
MESSAGE: You guys have T-Shirts?! Does everyone get on? What is on them? Do my mom and I get on each?
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Post# 20793-8/10/2002-10:01 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Saturday's POD
MESSAGE: Ah, a Maytag combo.... I've talked to sales and repair places that remember them, but most have only ever seen one, if any in all these years. One of the biggest problems in finding one of these gems is that Maytag had a program to pull all the combos sold from customer's homes and replace them with standard washers and dryers of the customer's choice. Yes, they must have been really bad! Westinghouse did the same thing with their combos for up to ten years after they were purchased. If service was required, they pulled the combo and replaced them with a brand new Westinghouse washer and dryer. Makes it even more of a challenge to find them now!
Here are a couple of scans of the Maytag combo & features from the brochure.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Ads+Articles+Brochures&.src=ph&.dnm=Maytag+Combo.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Ads%2bArticles%2bBrochures%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 20794-8/10/2002-10:37 ||| calypso bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: One more week!
MESSAGE: John's house is about 3/4 mile from hotel I believe. The last time I was there it seemed to me that anyone could probably walk there but I think John mentioned something to me about picking people up and such.
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Post# 20795-8/10/2002-10:42 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Saturday's POD
MESSAGE: But Lisa Douglas had one! I recall and episode where Arnold Ziffel (the pig) loved sitting and watching the machine like it was a TV. Maytag should have remembered how important a window is to many people and animals. (Our cat loves watching the washing machine!)
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Post# 20796-8/10/2002-13:43 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Saturday's POD
MESSAGE: I couldn't agree more, a window is a must for a front-loader. There's something almost sinister about locking your clothes inside of a drum with no way to see what's going on inside, goes against everything we love about laundry for sure! Maybe Maytag will re-design their machine now that the Hettie and Duet sales are tromping all over the Neppy. Skyler and I saw a Neptune washer behind the appliance store we frequent today, one of the first models along with an electronic Lady Kenmore and a 62 Maytag TOL dryer. Another instance I should have had my camera!
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Post# 20797-8/10/2002-17:50 ||| bendix5 (oregon)
SUBJECT: RE: Saturday's POD
MESSAGE: I wrote to Maytag and got a negative answer from them. I will pass this along.
Dear Customer,
Thank you for visiting the Maytag Home Page. We appreciate your interest in the "next generation" product line.
At this time, we have not been given any information about a design change to add a window to the Neptune.
Thank you for taking the time to bring this matter to our attention. You are a valued customer and we look forward to assisting you further.
Sincerely,
Jennifer
Maytag Neptune Customer Service
888-462-9824 (Mon.- Fri. 8:00 a.m.- 8:00 p.m., Eastern Time)
(Saturday 8:00 a.m.- 5:00 p.m., Eastern Time)
Received Date: 8/4/02
Completion Date: 8/5/02
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Post# 20798-8/10/2002-20:01 ||| bendix5 (oregon)
SUBJECT: RE: Saturday's POD
MESSAGE: I have always thought the Neptune Machines would be beautiful if they had large windows in both the washer and dryer framed in chrome they would be the Cadillac of the washers. With the slanted wash tub, and its ease to get laundry in and out I would think like Greg that it would be a
good selling point. Some friends of ours bought one when they first came out and low suds detergents were hard to find. Half of the time she would go to unload and the machine would be full of suds. Which means clothing isn't all that clean because cloth just floats thru the suds and doesn't tumble when there is an oversudsing situation. That is one of the reason women lost interest in the early Bendix and Westinghouse FL machines. Before Dash and All clothes didn't get as clean in a FL as a wringer washer or top load automatic, because you couldn't put in the usual 1 to 1 1/2 cups of detergent or soap they used in the 40's and 50's. And if you didn't use enough, dirt redeposited back into the laundry and grease didn't wash out at all. Two tablespoons of Tide would oversuds a front loader in those days. My aunt and mother both used non sudsing ammonia on the dirty kid and husband work clothes along with alittle detergent. It works great just don't use bleach with it. Just about the time All and Dash hit the market most people were trading front loaders in on top load washers with matching dryers that had a lot of bells and whistles. Especially Kenmore. They had the lights and knobs and buttons people were interested in. The Duets and Hetties are beautiful machines and I am thinking hard on figuring out a way to aquire a set of them. I now have Frigidaire FL washer and dryer. They do a great job too. Dano
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Post# 20799-8/11/2002-07:26 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: General Electric POD
MESSAGE: One really has to admire the simple elegence of these beatuful applainces. What a nice matching set this would make.
Can anyone tell me more about the early GE Automatics?
Uni will groan but I would love to see a vid of one in action!!!
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Post# 20800-8/11/2002-08:27 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: LOOK!
MESSAGE: Any one see this add on ebay?
I am sure there would be someone interested!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2130096625
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Post# 20801-8/11/2002-16:25 ||| rapidry1000 (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: 1965 Frigidaire Custom Deluxe Washer for Sale
MESSAGE: Craigslist.com in San Francisco has a 1965 Frigidaire Custom Deluxe washer for sale. The machine is located in San Leandro
(Sudsmaster's town). Ad mentions that it has been seldom used. There is a photo. The machine looks in good shape except where the body meets the top of the machine is scratched and is rusting. The seller is asking $85.00 The seller's name is Wilson and the phone number is 510-278-4609 if anybody is interested.
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Post# 20802-8/11/2002-19:47 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1965 Frigidaire Custom Deluxe Washer for Sale
MESSAGE: Cool find - not a rapidry, but still fun to see. I'll bet the tub leans to the back and left....
Rich, here's your rollermatic!!
LINK: http://www.craigslist.org/sfo/eby/bar/5130837.html
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Post# 20803-8/11/2002-20:07 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: DI-57 Restoration Question (Thanks!)
MESSAGE: Thank you Rich for the info.... :) ..GregM
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Post# 20804-8/11/2002-20:09 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: Antique Vintage Soap found
MESSAGE: I was pretty psyched to find an original box of Rinso and Oxydol in very good shape unopened at an antique dealer in Vermont over the weekend.
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Post# 20805-8/11/2002-20:26 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Saturday's POD (What if we ALL write to Maytag?)
MESSAGE: What if a flood of emails poors into Maytag about having them add windows to their front-loading machines??
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Post# 20806-8/11/2002-21:00 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Saturday's POD (What if we ALL write to Maytag?)
MESSAGE: Maytag has always been "anti-viewing" starting with their first automatics. Lift the lid, the machine stops. Other makers like GE, Kenmore, Whirlpool let you at least watch the wash cycle and the lid switch is easy enough to fix; just jab a pencil in there and it works. Where does Maytag put the switch? It's in the back of the lid so it's a pain to push the switch. Even worse, the newer Maytags have some kind of fuse that blows if you try to press the lid switch while the lid is up. The Neptune came out and surprisingly, no window. $1,000 and I can't watch it.
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Post# 20807-8/11/2002-21:59 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Saturday's POD (Clothes pin...)
MESSAGE: On the rear lid switch machines, you can use half of a wooden spring-type clothespin to press the switch button in while the lid is open. I didn't jump the switch on my A906 because then the tub light wouldn't work properly. Clothespin works like a charm.
I think Robert told me that trick - he has such a head for knowing!
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Post# 20808-8/11/2002-22:21 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Saturday's POD (Clothes pin...)
MESSAGE: What I did to "Trick" our Maytag was as Gansky1 said "Use a one half of a clothes pin." But I also know that a little thin piece of leather with the clothes pin will make it stay real well. It works, believe me.
Best washes,
-Jamie-
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Post# 20809-8/11/2002-22:24 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Yes!
MESSAGE: I won the Easy Whirldry on ebay! This is one of the happiest days of my life!
Best Washes,
-Jamie-
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Post# 20810-8/11/2002-22:27 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: WCI-59 Tub Tales
MESSAGE: I've spoken with several people about restoring the tub from the WCI59 I brought back from the farm in May. The guy I spoke with at a local metal working & sandblasting shop told me to bring in the tub and he should be able to get it ready for re-coating. I removed the tub from the machine today, (only three hits of the wrench to free the tub nut!) cleaned out the metal shaving filling of the balance ring and removed the spin hub from the actual tub. I'll take it in tomorrow to have the porcelain sandblasted and the metal cleaned. The process we talked about was first sandblasting, then cleaning and prep & repair, then I will fill the balance ring with concrete and take it back to have it coated with an epoxy primer, plastic resin epoxy coating and finally a urethane top coat that is cured with heat to make it as hard as porcelain. For a piece this size, the cost won't be too prohibitive and since I have no other tub, really my only option. The epoxy coatings come in a choice of color so let's keep our fingers crossed they have pink! Wish me & my tub good luck!
Here's some "before pics" of the tub.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/New+pics&.src=ph&.dnm=WCI-59+Started.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/New%2bpics%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 20811-8/11/2002-22:40 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Saturday's POD (that's good to know)
MESSAGE: Now I can go to my mom's house and enjoy her Maytag without having to hold my finger behind the lid.
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Post# 20812-8/11/2002-00:45 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Saturday's POD (that's good to know)
MESSAGE: How did she end up with a Maytag, after having had a Sears? How long did she have the Sears?
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Post# 20813-8/11/2002-00:45 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: WCI-59 Tub Tales
MESSAGE: That's wonderful! Hope all works out well, color and otherwise! :)
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Post# 20814-8/11/2002-00:47 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1965 Frigidaire Custom Deluxe Washer for Sale
MESSAGE: Would you want to go get that machine, to replace that 1963 one that you unfortunately had to give up?
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Post# 20815-8/11/2002-00:53 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Saturday's POD
MESSAGE: I guess I'm just another arnold ziffle, well, maybe but wrong "animal" LOL.
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Post# 20816-8/11/2002-00:57 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1965 Frigidaire Custom Deluxe Washer for Sale
MESSAGE: It's almost the same one as Robert got (the turquoise one). He ran it for us in the garage last night, what fun! It runs and looks great.
For those who may not know, Eddy came to visit from Canada over this weekend and he, Robert and I spent the day together estate saleing and later, we had dinner and did lots of laundry! Miss Jetcone (Karen), David and Neal joined us in the evening! It was great fun and wonderful to meet Eddy. He is just as fun and nice as I knew he would be.
And Gladys...oh my goodness what a sweetie! :)
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Post# 20817-8/12/2002-02:28 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: 1965 Frigidaire Custom Deluxe Washer for Sale (Eddy in MD?)
MESSAGE: Will he be at the gathering?
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Post# 20818-8/12/2002-06:59 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Saturday's POD (that's good to know)
MESSAGE: 1970-1983 Sears Kenmore 800
1983-1991 Whirlpool belt drive (don't know the model#)
1991-present Maytag
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Post# 20819-8/12/2002-07:02 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: ROLL CALL: Applianceville Convention
MESSAGE: OK, so who all is going. Add you name to the list
1. Jason LeBouef
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Post# 20820-8/12/2002-07:10 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: ROLL CALL: Applianceville Convention
MESSAGE: 2. Jamie and Cheryl Jeffery
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Post# 20821-8/12/2002-07:57 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: ROLL CALL: Applianceville Convention
MESSAGE: Steve Bisso and Rhinnie Koenig
(are you printing name tags
or is this for the movie credits [I want to thank all the little people.....??)
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Post# 20822-8/12/2002-08:08 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Convention Maps & Directions
MESSAGE: Here are the addresses for the convention events. Jason D and I checked out Yahoo maps and MapQuest.com and found them both to be very simple, clear and easy to follow. Other than the Sunday party at Imperialbob's, the other locations are all within 1-2.5 miles of the hotel. Maps and directions will be available for Bob Wirth's party.
The Holiday Inn: 10000 Baltimore Avenue, College Park, MD 20740
Friday Night: Jeff & Cal's address is 11104 Cherry Hill Road, Adlephi, MD 20783 (approx 2.5 miles from hotel)
Saturday: John's Museum address is 101F Bacon Drive, Beltsville, MD 20705 (approx 1 mile from hotel)
Sunday AM Brunch at John Lefever's: 4416 Tonquil Street, Beltsville, MD 20705 (approx 1.25 miles from hotel)
LINK: http://www.mapquest.com/directions/
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Post# 20823-8/12/2002-08:11 ||| geodon2000 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: ROLL CALL: Applianceville Convention
MESSAGE: George Donaldson and Jeff Leftwich...
leaving tomorrow for Rehoboth Beach...
see you on Friday with wet, sandy clothes ready to wash...
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Post# 20824-8/12/2002-08:23 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: ROLL CALL: Applianceville Convention
MESSAGE: Brent Aucoin
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Post# 20825-8/12/2002-08:57 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: 1965 Frigidaire Custom Deluxe Washer for Sale
MESSAGE: Sounds like y'all had a great time yesterday. Glad Eddy finally got to meet some of us. And I'm thrilled to hear Karen and David are doing fine. Have missed seeing Karen around. Super about Gladys, I knew she'd be a cutie.
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Post# 20826-8/12/2002-08:57 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: 1965 Frigidaire Custom Deluxe Washer for Sale
MESSAGE: Sounds like y'all had a great time yesterday. Glad Eddy finally got to meet some of us. And I'm thrilled to hear Karen and David are doing fine. Have missed seeing Karen around. Super about Gladys, I knew she'd be a cutie.
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Post# 20827-8/12/2002-09:00 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: ROLL CALL: Applianceville Convention
MESSAGE: Bob (appnut) Amerman--coming with Steve & Rhinnie
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Post# 20828-8/12/2002-09:08 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: ROLL CALL: Applianceville Convention (LATE ARRIVAL (Old Lady Bendix))
MESSAGE: I'll be there Friday night too, via subway and Bicycle, thank you, so add my name BOB WIRTH to the list of attendees. Saturday's booked for me, but you'll see me again Sunday anytime you're ready after John Lefever's brunchie munchie.
Surprise! My old Bendix washer will be joining us for the 'convergence'. Click below for a sneak preview.
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/BENDIX/INDEX.htm
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Post# 20829-8/12/2002-09:27 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: MAP TO THIRD LEG OF 'CONVERGENCE'
MESSAGE: You say CONVENTION, and I say CONVERGENCE..but let's not call any of it OFF! Don't miss a minute!
Here's a map to the 'third leg' of the three day tour that is The 2nd Annual Imperial Appliance Convergence!
This same page link below can be found by scrolling down the Bendix Welcome Hug page and clicking the active link below the photo.
BEST WISHES.
IMPERIAL BOB WIRTH
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/BENDIX/INDEX2.htm
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Post# 20830-8/12/2002-09:32 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: ROLL CALL: Applianceville Convention (Roll Call!)
MESSAGE: Peteski50 - Peter Sternlieb
Arriving Thursday P.M.
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Post# 20831-8/12/2002-09:33 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: WCI-59 Tub Tales
MESSAGE: Hi Greg, this is very exciting. Jon Charles and I have been wanting to have this done for a while. Is the place that is going to do the re-porcelaining in Omaha? How come you have to fill the balance ring with concrete before they fire it, wouldn't that cause the concrete to expand in the balance ring causing more problems? This is very interesting, cant wait to see what happens.
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Post# 20832-8/12/2002-09:37 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1965 Frigidaire Custom Deluxe Washer for Sale
MESSAGE: Yes we had so much fun this weekend, it was great to finally meet Eddy and see Scott and Karen and David. Over the course of the weekend we ran every machine in the basement!
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Post# 20833-8/12/2002-09:38 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: ROLL CALL: Applianceville Convention
MESSAGE: I'll be there and I will be staying with my Mom who lives about 20 minutes around the Beltway from John's house.
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Post# 20834-8/12/2002-09:43 ||| jetaction (Minnepolis)
SUBJECT: RE: ROLL CALL: Applianceville Convention
MESSAGE: Don Shier (Jetaction)
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Post# 20835-8/12/2002-10:11 ||| cycla-fabric (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: Roll Call
MESSAGE: Doug (Cycla-Fabric) and Bill will be there mid day on Friday, and looking forward to meeting the rest of the gang!!
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Post# 20836-8/12/2002-10:14 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: ROLL CALL: Applianceville Convention
MESSAGE: Louis Feenstra, arriving on Thursday evening (hopefully!)
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Post# 20837-8/12/2002-10:15 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: ROLL CALL: Applianceville Convention
MESSAGE: Bob, enjoy the trip, Steven and Rhinnie were wonderful hosts to me last year!
Louis
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Post# 20838-8/12/2002-10:25 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: ROLL CALL: Applianceville Convention
MESSAGE: Bruce Savery
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Post# 20839-8/12/2002-10:31 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention Maps & Directions (& Phone Numbers)
MESSAGE: Jeff and Cal 301-937-3251
John and Cliff 301-937-2364
Museum 240-355-5290
Holiday Inn 301-345-6700
As Greg said, it will be easier for everyone if you use Yahoo or Mapquest to get the directions to the various locations. It is very easy to get where you are going, so don't be afraid of getting lost.
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Post# 20840-8/12/2002-10:35 ||| rapidry1000 (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: RE: 1965 Frigidaire Custom Deluxe Washer for Sale (1965 Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Scott
I would like to find another unimatic (my mother's first washer) or a later model with the rapidry 1000 spin.
I was across the street last week at my mom's and the neighbors were disposing a 1960 30" Frigidaire Deluxe electric range that was obviously being junked due to careless tenants.
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Post# 20841-8/12/2002-10:36 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1965 Frigidaire Custom Deluxe Washer for Sale (Eddy in MD?)
MESSAGE: Very unfortunately, no. His employer has a rather archaic system of scheduling time off and he wasn't able to make arrangements. Hopefully another year he will be able to work it out!
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Post# 20842-8/12/2002-10:42 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1965 Frigidaire Custom Deluxe Washer for Sale (1965 Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: what a shame...
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Post# 20843-8/12/2002-11:18 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: 1965 Frigidaire Custom Deluxe Washer for Sale (Eddy in MD?)
MESSAGE: No unfortunately not this year ;-( Like Scott said, I have a rather archaic form of holiday choices which must be made each fall for the following year.
But I had a WONDERFUL time in Minneapolis meeting Robert, Scott, Karen and her husband John. I finally got to experience what you all did last year. Robert's collection is just amazing, I was riveted to each machine. It was the first time I saw a unimatic "live" and it certainly lived up to it's reputation! Thank you again, Robert for that pleasure.
Eddy
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Post# 20844-8/12/2002-11:53 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: ROLL CALL: Applianceville Convention
MESSAGE: GregM and Aaron attending, picking up rental vehicle at 8AM this Friday and immediately heading on highway from North Central MAss, so I will probably arrive at the Holiday Inn between 4:30 and 5PM? We are staying with friends on Capitol Hill but don't feel we have time to go there and then drive back out to meet everyone at the Holiday Inn. So we are going to drive straight to the Holiday Inn. Is everyone meeting there at that time? I have directions, itinerary's and phone #'s....(thank you). My first convention, I am very excited and look forward to meeting everyone. -GregM
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Post# 20845-8/12/2002-13:02 ||| Jetaction (Minnepolis)
SUBJECT: Update on Aberdeen Appliance Yard
MESSAGE: I got back this morning from the appliance yard in Aberdeen. The wife who lives there now was very hesitant to let me stroll around back there alone due to their liability. She nearly insisted someone go with me to look things over, but I convinced them to let me go on my own. My hunch is that there will come a time soon when they won't let people browse. If you this summer, wear long pants, as the weeds were up to my waist at times. Not knowing any better, I wore shorts! Big mistake as there are very prickly things a growing in them there parts!! Also, she told me that 1/2 of the machines are gone, and the rest is to go at sometime. I did find a bleach cup and new filter for the 1-18 that is coming soon! I also found some misc other parts. I was hoping to find a 65 pushbutton LK, but no such luch. The search goes on......
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Post# 20846-8/12/2002-14:11 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: RE: ROLL CALL: Applianceville Convention
MESSAGE: Jimmy Scichilone, from Ohio (FilterFlo)
I will be arriving on Thurday at the Holiday in about noon. driving in..........
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Post# 20847-8/12/2002-14:19 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Update on Aberdeen Appliance Yard
MESSAGE: Wow, Don I didn't know you were heading to the farm this weekend. We always wore long sleeves and long pants even with August temperatures near 90 because of the long grass. Sorry you didn't find much there. Unforuntately there is a lot more than 1/2 of the place gone, I would say about 2/3rd's has been removed and crushed. :) I was very lucky to have found the place when it was nearly untouched.
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Post# 20848-8/12/2002-15:58 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: Estate saleing in Minny
MESSAGE: I had the chance to go Estate Saleing with Robert, Scott and Gary while I was in Minneapolis. Here are a few pictures of what we came across, we all found a few things to buy. Unfortunately, I didn't get pictures of Scott's vacuum and toaster he found or Gary's beautiful painting. I have opened a new yahoo photos account under a pseudonym, so don't let that fool you!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/ms_gyrator4/lst?.dir=/August+10+Estate+Saleing+in+Minny&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/
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Post# 20849-8/12/2002-16:11 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Update on Aberdeen Appliance Yard (Is it worth a trip/visit?)
MESSAGE: Do you or does anyone think it is worth venturing out there for anything special?? -GregM
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Post# 20850-8/12/2002-16:20 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate saleing in Minny (nice photos!!)
MESSAGE: Hey cool photos, I like # 4 out of 11, I know you guys are not into the wringers, but I would not mind having one if it was "mint". Thanks for sharing. I still see nothing in the papers for estate sales, I can't be looking in the right place. They must be going on in the Boston area.........
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Post# 20851-8/12/2002-16:41 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: Georgia wash-in(s)
MESSAGE: Gathered at Geodon's house Saturday evening after I arrived from airport. Prsent were Steve 1/18, Rhinnie, Brent Aucion, Geodon, and myself. (PeterH arrived for dinner after closing down the 'mat). I did my laundry in the Fridgemore, one load with 22 pieces (slacks, t-shirts, shorts, polo shirts--this load alone would have required two loads on gentle in my shredmore) and a much smaller load of darks. First load geodon said was probably the largest load ever done in his machine (a Bob load fur sure) (but still room for fist at top of machine). Today, had wash-in at Steve's. He'd collected laundry for 2 weeks (pics of piles will be posted later--I sorted). 3 loads of towels in rapid dry; 2 loads of clothes in the 1/18, 1 load in the BD Lady Kenmore (load of PP sheets due to anemic spin and agitation); a small load in a DD LK; 2 loads of whites in the AEG; and a load in the QuietLine combo (that's still drying). All laundry is folded. Frigidaires and front loaders are the best & gentlest (sorry JasonL). This washer boy had fun but is tired. Can you imagine, saving laundry for two weeks and having your company do it for you???
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Post# 20852-8/12/2002-17:12 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: 1965 Frigidaire Custom Deluxe Washer for Sale (Unimatic live)
MESSAGE: We just did the "sea-worthy" test on the WO-65. I didn't get to put my hand near the energy ring last year when a unimatic was running. TODAY I DID. Incredible!!! WE also "sea worthy" tested teh WCD65. (all this and laundry too).
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Post# 20853-8/12/2002-17:19 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate saleing in Minny
MESSAGE: Eddy, THANK YOU for the picture taken of the control panel just for moi.
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Post# 20854-8/12/2002-17:22 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Georgia wash-in(s)
MESSAGE: Bob, I am thrilled to hear you are having a good time in Georgia. Thank you for your very informative description, the only burning question remaining is, did you have an uneventful plane trip?? ;-)
In the AEG, did you do boilwashes?
Does George still like his new dishwasher? He and I and Jetaction will have to powwow about these during the convention.
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Post# 20855-8/12/2002-17:31 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Georgia wash-in(s)
MESSAGE: Scott, I "only" got delayed at Dallas Airport for 1.5 hours due to rain (again!!). Had trauma surges when I passed by TGIF's (where I had dinner waiting for my plane to Minnie last year--which of course was diverted to Omaha). No boilwashes in AEG (underwear/elastic in one load, done at around 160 degrees) and the 2nd load of white sheets wasa done at about 140 degrees. All sparkling clean without bleach. (and things were filthy).
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Post# 20856-8/12/2002-17:31 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Georgia wash-in(s)
MESSAGE: Yes, Geodon loves his new dishwasher. It washes & DRIES.
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Post# 20857-8/12/2002-17:37 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: POD, anyone ever have a "magic minute"?
MESSAGE: Did that actually work? I would think not, if anything I would think it would strain the motor??? Cool looking machines though..........
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Post# 20858-8/12/2002-17:41 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: Antique Car Show
MESSAGE: I just got back from Vermont this weekend and attended the annual antique car show in Stowe, VT. There were close to 1,000 antique automobiles there and I fell completely in love with about fifty of them. If you ever get the opportunity, you should try to go. It was amazing. Of course the perfect weather helped too. It seems the forties and fifties were definately the decades for making beautiful, stylish cars and appliances. Will those days ever come back? ..........
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Post# 20859-8/12/2002-17:42 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Georgia wash-in(s)
MESSAGE: I'll be curious to see if he has noticed, as have Jetaction Don and I, that these Maytag machines have extradordinarily long cycles. Other than that, I like mine pretty well as does Don I believe. He noticed it first, then yesterday when I had a family gathering, I used mine of course numerous times and this being the first time I really paid attention to it, noticed the cycle length.
It does good work though, and has forced fan drying, and I like the racks. The upper rack in a way reminds me of the post-spraytube GM Frigidaires of which of course I am very familiar, with all those little steps and levels.
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Post# 20860-8/12/2002-17:43 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Georgia wash-in(s)
MESSAGE: oh dear, I'm sorry to hear that but certainly happier it was at least shorter this time! Glad you got good results in your loads! :) See you soon!!
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Post# 20861-8/12/2002-19:19 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Georgia wash-in(s)
MESSAGE: WhooHooo!! Sounds like quite an overwhelming bunch of pleasure!
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Post# 20862-8/12/2002-19:27 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate saleing in Minny (ME TOO)
MESSAGE: And also for me. I love to see the control panels. Even a 70s Kenmore looks good to me.
I need a belt-drive fix bad.
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Post# 20863-8/12/2002-19:28 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD, anyone ever have a "magic minute"?
MESSAGE: Robert (Unimatic1140) has an ABC-O-Matic washer (same mechanism) and it works well. The water fills for a minute then the agitator oscilates (you have to see it in action). It doesn't strain the motor and it's actually very gentle.
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Post# 20864-8/12/2002-19:30 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Antique Car Show (any motorcycles?)
MESSAGE: Any bikes there? If so, any Honda PC800s. That's a GREAT motorcycle that I want to own but don't have the money :-(
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Post# 20865-8/12/2002-19:31 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Georgia wash-in(s) (It was!)
MESSAGE: We had so much fun!
Besides doing laundry, we laughed so much!
Can't imangine when we all get together this week!
Brent
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Post# 20866-8/12/2002-19:33 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Georgia wash-in(s)
MESSAGE: Well, I can't agree more that Frig's and FL's are more gentler. The Kenmore is more sentimental value than performance. I'm always rootin' for the underdog.
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Post# 20867-8/12/2002-19:44 ||| jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: Room at the INN
MESSAGE: Hi Everyone, I just cancelled my room at the H Inn today so there is an extra room for you stragglers! I will be staying with my cousin and some friends since the hotel does not take doggies! Thank heavens for friends!!!!
Will see you all Friday and am looking forward to meeting all the new attendees!
Cheeers Jetcone!!
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Post# 20868-8/12/2002-19:58 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate saleing in Minny (ME TOO)
MESSAGE: Jason, I meant to ask you how come that second belt driven Whirlpool lasted only 7 years (or did your mom move and leave it behind).
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Post# 20869-8/12/2002-20:07 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: Jasonl, will you be by Central Grocery?
MESSAGE: Get me a Muffalata sandwich! Don't know if I spelled it right. Been away so long!!!
Brent
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Post# 20870-8/12/2002-20:13 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Antique Car Show (any motorcycles?)
MESSAGE: Hi Jason, there were just a few motorcycles and I mean maybe about twenty or so. They were all spectators of the car show I believe. Didn't see any Hondas at all to speak of. Alot of Harley's and a few BMW's. I didn't pay particular attention either whereas I am not into the motorcycles as much as I am the cars. I actually only saw about half the cars there anyways, this event was huge.
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Post# 20871-8/12/2002-20:19 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: ROLL CALL: Applianceville Convention (We'll Be There!)
MESSAGE: Jim Rodgers and Ken Yourist will be there. We plan to arrive late Friday afternoon.
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Post# 20872-8/12/2002-20:21 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Jasonl, will you be by Central Grocery? (Yeah you right!)
MESSAGE: That's the ultimate Muffulata at Central Grocery. OH YEAH DAWLIN' (New Orleans talk there)
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Post# 20873-8/12/2002-20:26 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Antique Car Show (any motorcycles?)
MESSAGE: Why are Harley riders so mean? Because while their fixing their Harley on Saturday morning, the Japanese bikes are already riding.
What's the difference between a dog and a Harley? They both love to ride in the back of a truck.
oops... "I shouldn't have said that...."
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Post# 20874-8/12/2002-20:41 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD, anyone ever have a "magic minute"?
MESSAGE: Greg, yes it did work. Got to see it at last year's convention with the ACB-O-Matic at Robert's. Jetcone can attest to the effectiveness of the machines too. He has several in his collection.
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Post# 20875-8/12/2002-20:43 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Antique Car Show
MESSAGE: Between design and engineering and marketing & Madison Avenue, this was the time that these elements combined were in their hey-day, also to some extent, the 60s too.
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Post# 20876-8/12/2002-20:48 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Georgia wash-in(s)
MESSAGE: Scott, some friends of mine have an MDB3000 or MDB4000 Maytag and I've been @ their house many times when they've run the machine on Normal Wash with the temp boost option. Very long cycles betwen the two water heat phases. I just got throughsitting and watching Steve's Kenmore Elite (pre-tall-tub version) and it did a 42 minute cycle on water miser (plus 30 minutes for drying-no heat though) as well as an 8 minute heating delay in the main wash phase and a 5 minute heat delay in the final rinse. So, that's about 55 minutes of spray time, my GE's Light Wash with heating is 51-53 minutes as a comparison.
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Post# 20877-8/12/2002-20:53 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Room at the INN ((Al is coming ~~~???))
MESSAGE: Does this mean I'll get to meet Al??? YAY!!!!!! Hmm, I may have to buy some doggie treats!!!!!
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Post# 20878-8/12/2002-21:21 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
MESSAGE: How many people total are there coming to the Convention?
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Post# 20879-8/12/2002-21:30 ||| jetaction (Minnepolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Update on Aberdeen Appliance Yard (Is it worth a trip/visit?)
MESSAGE: I had certain pieces I was looking for, and found most of them. They were filters, bleach cups, etc. So much of what is left is bunched together and arranged so you can't get at it without crawling over machine after machine. I chose not to do that because so much of it is rusted, and I didn't want to fall through anything! I am glad I went, but it is dangerous. The grass is so high that you can't see where you are walking, there were holes and old parts under the grass that I stepped on which twisted my ankle a few times, but I did not get hurt. Scared a few rats here and there as well. What is it with me and rodents lately? First the chipmunks, now the rats. I am glad I went.
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Post# 20880-8/12/2002-21:43 ||| jetaction (Minnepolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Georgia wash-in(s) (Maytag dishwashwer cycles)
MESSAGE: I bought my Maytag dishwasher last summer. Love the machine, but the cycles go forever. These are with heat dry, but WITHOUT WATER HEAT! Light wash-85 min, Normal wash 97-min, Heavy wash-2 hours, Auto Clean-90min. I went back to the dealer after I found this out, and he looked this up and said they have the longest cycles of any brand. My old Kenmore used to do a light wash in 43 min. The only thing I could figure out is that they use less water, so they wash longer. My partner has a Kenmore, (GE) and that also has long cycles.
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Post# 20881-8/12/2002-21:47 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: ROLL CALL: Applianceville Convention (Roll Call)
MESSAGE: Terry Lattz I will be arriving at the airport around 9:30 am on Friday morning. Anyone interesting in trying to navigate the shuttle together? I was also wondering what time everyone was planning to meet up at the hotel to go to Jeff and Cal's? Thanks for the help.
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Post# 20882-8/12/2002-21:57 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Georgia wash-in(s) (Maytag dishwashwer cycles)
MESSAGE: Hi Don, I was mentioning in an earlier post that I was busy in the kitchen a lot yesterday and was paying more attention to mine than usual, and realized how much longer it takes than the Sears. Other than cycle length which I guess doesn't really matter all that much to me since I'm not usually waiting around for it, I like this one pretty well too.
Looking forward to seeing you this weekend! :)
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Post# 20883-8/12/2002-22:51 ||| BsmntFullOSuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire built-in oven w/double doors
MESSAGE: Was out jogging and came across something curbside....
Frigidaire built-in range, instead of the usual single door than swings down, double side-hinged doors! No window.
Looked like late 50s early 60s. Stainless steel front, well constructed chassis.
Had just enough time to shower after running and get to work so didn't pick it up. Should I kick myself in the ass for passing up something worth saving? If it was a Control Tower washer/dryer, may have been a bit late for work, but don't need a built-in range.
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Post# 20884-8/12/2002-22:52 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: ROLL CALL: Applianceville Convention (Roll Call)
MESSAGE: Hiya, Terry!
I'm arriving right about mid-afternoon on Friday. Scott says he's about an hour earlier, so we are planning on catching a shuttle together. You probably won't want to wait around that long. 8-)
As I recall, the festivities @ Jeff & Cal's start at about 6 p.m. I have no idea yet how I'm getting there (or anywhere else throughout the weekend), but I assume somebody with a vehicle will have a seat available. ;-)
Looking forward to seeing you again!
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Post# 20885-8/12/2002-23:32 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: ROLL CALL: Applianceville Convention (Roll Call)
MESSAGE: I'm sure since most of us will be at the hotel, we'll be gathering at about 5 or 5:30 p.m. Glenn, you can sit on my lap if ya want LOL.
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Post# 20886-8/12/2002-01:15 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate saleing in Minny
MESSAGE: Hi Eddy - Glad to hear you had a great time in Minneapolis this last weekend - I knew you would!
Your estate saleing looked interesting. Both of the Maytag wringers you posted were quite old - from the late 40's or early 50's. Not too exciting, but they looked to be in great condition for their age.
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Post# 20887-8/12/2002-01:19 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD, anyone ever have a "magic minute"?
MESSAGE: Hi Greg -
The magic minute works well, it's good head start on washing with a more concentrated detergent/soap solution to "scrub" out stains. There is no real strain on the motor, it's actually quite neat to watch the machine take under a full load with only a half tub of water.
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Post# 20888-8/12/2002-01:22 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Update on Aberdeen Appliance Yard
MESSAGE: Shorts? Oh no! Glad to hear the ticks weren't bad - that could have been a real disaster. We never saw any rats the times we were there, but the grass wasn't as high either. Sorry to hear there was no Kenmore out there for you, but since you saw firsthand what condition some of the machines are in, you will save yourself several months of work! Keep up the search - Greg
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Post# 20889-8/12/2002-01:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Update on Aberdeen Appliance Yard (Farm & Sales)
MESSAGE: Depends on what you want - there are still hundreds of machines out there, but they are mostly from the 60's & 70's. Fairly common stuff we see from time to time still at thrift stores and sales.
Have you tried looking in other papers for the sales - grocery stores and the like often have classified ad papers published weekly. There are couple of sale companies here that only advertise in these because of the cost in our daily newspaper.
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Post# 20890-8/12/2002-01:27 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Update on Aberdeen Appliance Yard (Farm & Sales)
MESSAGE: Here is a link to the pictures that I took of my first trip to the farm back in May, to give you an idea of what's out there.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst?.dir=/2002+Aberdeen+Appliance+Burial+Ground&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/
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Post# 20891-8/13/2002-06:52 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: ROLL CALL: Applianceville Convention (Thanks Glenn)
MESSAGE: Hi Glenn, Thanks for the information. Yes I think it would be a long wait around the airport as I think Scott said he got in around 2pm. I will just go ahead to the hotel and will meet up with you guys there. I too do not know how I will be getting around this weekend but hopefully we can work something out with some of you guys. Looking forward to seeing everyone!! Only three more days!! YAY
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Post# 20892-8/13/2002-07:11 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Update on Aberdeen Appliance Yard (Is it worth a trip/visit?)
MESSAGE: Are you guys that we might get a chance to go out there during the Convention? I would have the time of my life! I might be able to find a 1/18!
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Post# 20893-8/13/2002-07:16 ||| parunner58 (Easton, PA)
SUBJECT: RE: Georgia wash-in(s) (Maytag cycle times)
MESSAGE: Hi I am new to adding comments to this forum. I was reading the many post of cycle times and I aggree that the Maytag times are long. I have one of the New Frigidaire Gallery Dishwashers that you can wash just one rack at a time. The Normal cycle for mine is 84 minutes and the Pots and Pans or Heavy wash is well over 100 minutes. I asked the service man why and he said that Frigidaire uses a low pressure spray with extra hot water. This is the way they kept the noise level down. I can atest to this. Thid dishwasher replaced out Kitchen Aid Superba that lasted only 12 years, which I think was not very long considering my aunt had one that was over 25 years old and still washing well. The kitchen Aid was quite noisy compared to the Frigidaire. You have to really strain your ear to hear it running. It cleans much better than the Kitchen Aid. The single rack opetion is great for us because when the kids are away at school we use the single rack and can wash the dishes every other day instead of waiting longer. The short wash is what is used for the single rack cycles. The lower rack cycle takes about 64 minutes and the upper rack is 67. The two rack short wash is 74 minutes. I really enjoy reading the messages and looking at the pictures and links in the forum. My favorite appliances are dishwashers and vacuum cleaners. I would love to retore one day an impeller type GE or Frigidaire dishwasher
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Post# 20894-8/13/2002-07:48 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Update on Aberdeen Appliance Yard (Is it worth a trip/visit?)
MESSAGE: The Aberdeen appliance yard (aka Sacred Appliance Burial Ground) is in Aberdeen, South Dakota. With our full schedule this weekend, there won't be time to make a trip to the midwest too! ;-)
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Post# 20895-8/13/2002-08:08 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: 21" Washer and Dryer in Northern CA
MESSAGE: Here is the 21" compact washer and dryer that we talked about a while back - made by Norge for Montgomery Wards back in the 70's. I've always wanted to see one of these running.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2045927949
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Post# 20896-8/13/2002-09:08 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: 21" Washer and Dryer in Northern CA
MESSAGE: That was neat to see again!
My great grandmother had a set of those that my father bought for her. Her vision was too bad to use her wringer washer anymore. She was upset because my dad got rid of her wringer, and bought these. I taught her how to use them, but she did not feel like it was cleaning her clothes because she could not see it washing, and she did not like the whole "automatic" concept.
She actually would only wash her clothes in them when I did it for her, and she would be complaining the whole time.
When I was not around, she did her wash day by day, cleaning the clothes and towels for that day, and would do it on a wash board.
I would say that these machines were used about 20 times max. When she passed away, my dad gave them to a thrift store.
That seems like 100 years ago to me now.
Brent
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Post# 20897-8/13/2002-09:15 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: 21" Washer and Dryer in Northern CA
MESSAGE: My sister had the dryer in a condo she bought in Foster City, CA in the early 70s. She had the asher that was more "TOL", had push-button cycles.
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Post# 20898-8/13/2002-10:53 ||| tucker (San Diego)
SUBJECT: POD
MESSAGE: Boy does this remind me of how i used to watch my grandmothers whirlpool. Wonder if moms telling the boy not to put those jeans in with the laundry in hot?
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Post# 20899-8/13/2002-11:26 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Bendix Duomatic Found in Southern California
MESSAGE: Hi All,
I just received this email. I believe the machine he is referring can be seen at the oldewash web site:
http://216.160.174.6/oldewash_docs/oldewash/images/283.jpg. Even though it says its a 1955 model, its actually a 1957 model. Anyway, I think this could be of great interest to some of you guys out west, you should contact the seller right away...
Good Morning,
My name is Robert Cornett and I own what I believe is a 1955 Bendix combination washer/ dryer. I say I believe it is a 1955 because I am unsure of the year but found a picture of what looked to be the exact machine at a website: oldewash@aol.com.
I inherited this machine about 10 years ago with an old home I
purchased here in Southern California. The seller of the home was the original owner of the machine and still used the machine at the time I inherited it to wash heavy items.
The machine is in remarkably good condition for its age and is
currently in my garage in Torrance, California. I am interested in selling it to make room for my car.
Please let me know if you are interested.
Thankyou,
Robert Cornett
email: cornero2@voughtaircraft.com
phone: 310-539-8092
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Post# 20900-8/13/2002-13:19 ||| lkanon (USA)
SUBJECT: RE: Message for Unimatic1140 (For Unimatic1140)
MESSAGE: Hi,
Have you found the model # for the GE Filter-Flo washer
from 1958?
Thanks,
Louis
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Post# 20901-8/13/2002-14:30 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: POD's during the convention
MESSAGE: Someone should save the POD's while we are all at the convention so that we don't miss any. But then again we may have access to a computer anyway. See ya at the comvention.
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Post# 20902-8/13/2002-14:31 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: 21" Washer and Dryer in Northern CA (For Gansky1.)
MESSAGE: I have a picture of the inside on that washer. But I don't know how to post it. The seller sent it to me.
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Post# 20903-8/13/2002-14:50 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: 21" Washer and Dryer in Northern CA (For Gansky1.)
MESSAGE: Hi Jamie, you could open a yahoo account, it's free. Then, you can create and name a photo album. You then can upload the pictures from your computer and then we can all see them. I'll put the link here for you.
Eddy
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/
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Post# 20904-8/13/2002-15:29 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Georgia wash-in(s) (Maytag cycle times)
MESSAGE: Welcome to the club and thanks for your interesting comments! Who'd have "thunk" that a post-GM Frigidaire would outclean a KA Superba. They are also, of course, less expensive than a KA Superba. It would be fun to have a vintage dishwasher! A couple of the club members I can think of have some very nice examples of these.
Do drop a line (my email is in the profiles) sometime if you'd like as I also collect vacuums and would be interested to hear about your favorites!
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Post# 20905-8/13/2002-16:08 ||| spiralator60 (Los Angeles, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix Duomatic Found in Southern California (Bendix Inquiry)
MESSAGE: Hi Robert,
Thanks for letting us out west know about this. Torrance is less than ten minutes away from where I live. I spoke with the seller, who told me that this machine is a gas model, and is still in good working order. Based on our conversation, it sounds interesting, so we agreed that I would take a look at the machine this Saturday.
If anyone else is interested in the Duomatic, please feel free to contact the seller, as I have not made any committment other than to look at the machine. He said that he was using the price listed in the WANTED section as a guide, so $300 is what he is asking. This does not seem unreasonable to me, considering what I paid for my current washer and dryer set, but what do you and other club members think?
Darryl
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Post# 20906-8/13/2002-16:08 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: ROLL CALL: Applianceville Convention (Thanks Glenn)
MESSAGE: Guys, the excitement is building!!!! My flight arrives @ BWI around 5:30 p.m. Friday. I'm getting a car & you're more than welcome for a ride. See ya! Leslie
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Post# 20907-8/13/2002-17:46 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix Duomatic Found in Southern California (Bendix Inquiry)
MESSAGE: Cool! I'm glad you are going to look at it. As far as the price goes, that will be up to you and what you are willing to pay for the machine. Check a few things when you see it, the door boot should be soft and in good shape, ask if the gas burner valves work (if the seller knows,) look inside the access panel at the bottom front for evidence of water leakage and rust around the outer tub. If it all looks good and the outside physical condition is good, it probably is worth the asking price.
Good luck and keep us posted!
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Post# 20908-8/13/2002-17:49 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 21" Washer and Dryer in Northern CA (For Gansky1.)
MESSAGE: Did the agitator have the filter and dispenser on it? They used the same burp-up filter on these as they did the full size models. The filter and dispenser were so large in that little tub that it nearly blocked the whole view inside.
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Post# 20909-8/13/2002-18:11 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: ROLL CALL: Applianceville Convention (Thanks Glenn)
MESSAGE: Hey, Leslie!
Looking forward to seeing ya!
I was looking last night at the pics I have of John Lefever's collection . . fun, fun fun!
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Post# 20910-8/13/2002-18:17 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Update on Aberdeen Appliance Yard (thanks)
MESSAGE: thanks for the feedback "jetaction"
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Post# 20911-8/13/2002-18:20 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: ROLL CALL: Applianceville Convention (65 Lady K)
MESSAGE: The 65 Lady K is MINE ALL MINE! hehe. This is going to be fun
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Post# 20912-8/13/2002-18:23 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Update on Aberdeen Appliance Yard (thnkx 4 the feedback :) ....)
MESSAGE: thanks Greg, that info is helpful.....look forward to meeting you and everyone else Friday night..........-GregM
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Post# 20913-8/13/2002-18:29 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Update on Aberdeen Appliance Yard (HEY??)
MESSAGE: thanks Greg for the pics, I actually saw those before. Well, I guess I should not rent a van and drive out there this fall for a couple days as much as I would love to, there are a couple machines that I would love to get but I think at this point I should stick to pursuing other ventures out here. Besides it would be very costly to rent, drive, etc. -GregM
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Post# 20914-8/13/2002-18:34 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: Appliance dealers little help if any!!
MESSAGE: Well I cannot tell you how many appliance dealers I have hit in the last couple months and they all say the same thing, "OH gheez, you will never find anything pre-1960 anymore, probably not pre-1970 either!!". I have offered $100.00 in writing for any pre-1960 washer/dryer in good condition working or not and they don't take me seriously I swear. Some have even copped quite the attitude towards me. A few and I mean very few were quite nice and looked at me, like when a dog tilts its head, when I told them I collect vintage appliances.(hahaha) Robert warned me about this...........
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Post# 20915-8/13/2002-18:36 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Update on Aberdeen Appliance Yard (don't think so)
MESSAGE: Hey Bud,
I don't think we can visit the Aberdeen Farm during the convention whereas it is in South Dakota and the convention is in Maryland. If we could, I would sure go........
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Post# 20916-8/13/2002-18:41 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Georgia wash-in(s) (HI parunner, DW lover here too)
MESSAGE: Hi "parunner" , I too love the old dishwashers and it seems the old , vintage DW, W&D are very hard to find indeed. I think back on several opportunities when other family members of mine bought homes and found these vintage appliances and tossed them. I try not to think about that. I am always on the look for these classics and hope to collect and restore as many as my mother's basement will allow, (hahaha) -GregM
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Post# 20917-8/13/2002-18:45 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: 21" Washer and Dryer in Northern CA (For Gansky1.)
MESSAGE: Yes, it sure did! Pretty soon I will show you it. My dad is going to help get a yahoo account.(I am still too young.)
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Post# 20918-8/13/2002-18:46 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix Duomatic Found in Southern California (question?)
MESSAGE: Did this both wash and dry all in one machine? very cool looking .........
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Post# 20919-8/13/2002-19:49 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix Duomatic Found in Southern California (question?)
MESSAGE: Yes - a combination washer/dryer all in one. I have a 1953 Bendix Duomatic that works like a dream. Bendix introduced this newfangled machine to the market in 1953. Being a full 36" wide, the inside drum was 27" in diameter which produced superb washing results and allowed plenty of room for the clothes to tumble freely while drying. The Duomatic could wash and dry a full 9lb load of clothes in approximately 1hr 15 mins. The only drawback of these machines was that you could only have one load running at a time, where as with separate machines, you could have both running and cut some time from your washday. The idea had limited acceptance with housewives who mostly did all their washing on one day and they became more of a specialty product rather than the laundry revolution that Bendix had "bet the farm" on and eventually they, along with the pesky rubber tubs of the Economat, brought them to the point of selling the appliance division (Avco) to Philco in 1957-58.
Here are the pictures of mine -
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Bendix&.src=ph&.dnm=From+Detroit+to+My+Basement.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Bendix%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 20920-8/13/2002-20:01 ||| frigemore (Chicago IL area)
SUBJECT: Jason HQOTS Where is My Map????
MESSAGE: Please Jason I really need a Map from Regan Airport to the Wherehouse!!!! Or I will have to spank you when I get there...Your Choice!!
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Post# 20921-8/13/2002-20:28 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix Duomatic Found in Southern California (Wonderful)
MESSAGE: How often do you use your machine? Is yours gas or electric?
I love these machines. I really love the 59? Philco that Robert has?
What is your thoughts on it's washing and drying?
Thanks for sharing your pictures!
Brent
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Post# 20922-8/13/2002-21:27 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Interior for Gnasky1
MESSAGE: Here is the interior for the Montgomery wards washer.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/pulsator88/lst?.dir=/Ebay+Stuff/Montgomery+Wards&.src=ph&.view=
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Post# 20923-8/13/2002-21:29 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix Duomatic Found in Southern California (very interesting)
MESSAGE: very cool reading that info Greg, I think its so cool that you know all that stuff.........-GregM
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Post# 20924-8/13/2002-21:36 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Message for Unimatic1140 (For Unimatic1140)
MESSAGE: WA-950R
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Post# 20925-8/13/2002-21:38 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix Duomatic Found in Southern California (Bendix Inquiry)
MESSAGE: Hi Daryl,
I think $300 is a fair price if as Greg says the machine is truly working and there are no leaks. Alot of parts (including the boot and pump) are still available from Dexter for that machine.
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Post# 20926-8/13/2002-21:42 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Appliance dealers little help if any!!
MESSAGE: Don't get me started on that again. I wish we could put a spell on ever appliance dealer and recycler to call us every time something cool came in. Of course half the fun is the challenge!
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Post# 20927-8/13/2002-21:57 ||| bendix5 (oregon)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix Duomatic Found in Southern California (question?)
MESSAGE: Oh what a wonderful machine that was. The one my mom had was like the one this Mr. Cornet is selling. I think the price is great. Also it is good to know Robert Unimatic, that Dexter still carries parts for these machines. I will put that down in my little book so I can remember. Would enjoy the get together this year but no time off work right now. Have a great time and Gansky have you ever taped your combo with sound changing from tumble to spin to high spin. That would be awsome. That 53 you have is beautiful. My mother and aunts (five girls) all had duomatics and they all still hung most of the laundry out for years. My mom hung most wash into the 1970's. I think she finally got her new set around 1976 or so and gave up the Philco Bendix. So, she had it about 18 years.
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Post# 20928-8/13/2002-22:31 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: ROLL CALL: Applianceville Convention (Thanks Leslie)
MESSAGE: Hi Leslie, Thanks so much for the offer, I really appreciate it. Looking forward to seeing you again!!Terry
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Post# 20929-8/13/2002-22:55 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: 21" Washer and Dryer in Northern CA (For Gansky1.)
MESSAGE: Yes, my sister's had the burp-up and fs dispenser in that tiny little tub.
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Post# 20930-8/13/2002-22:57 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: ROLL CALL: Applianceville Convention (Thanks Glenn)
MESSAGE: I wonder if John L has the Duet HT still around, at museum or his basement.
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Post# 20931-8/13/2002-23:06 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Appliance dealers little help if any!!
MESSAGE: I'll let Steve 1-18 tell everyone about the former Frigidaire dealer he talked with tody in the Augusta area. He acutally said he loved the Unimatics.
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Post# 20932-8/13/2002-23:36 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Interior for Gnasky1 (Oops)
MESSAGE: Can't get into the album - you need to go in and change the access to "Public" for everyone to see the picture.
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Post# 20933-8/13/2002-23:48 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix Duomatic Found in Southern California (Wonderful)
MESSAGE: Hi Brent -
My Duo is electric and has a "Magic Heater" to maintain the hot wash water during the wash cycle, a feature the gas model does not have. The advantage of the gas dryer over the electric models is that the electric has a condenser to remove the moisture from the circulated air during drying, the gas model is a traditional air-flow with an outside vent. It uses 1/2 gallon of cold water per minute which is adds up too fast to be used very often, just seems too wasteful although the drying is soft and wonderful feeling, even with no fabric softener. The washer is great, with that large drum, the clothes drop nearly 27" into the wash solution creating lots of slapping and sloshing which does a great job. It spins at 500 rpm (in that large diam. drum) after the wash and both deep rinses which aids rinsing a great deal.
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Post# 20934-8/13/2002-23:56 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Message for Unimatic1140 (For Unimatic1140)
MESSAGE: :-)
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Post# 20935-8/13/2002-00:03 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix Duomatic Found in Southern California (question?)
MESSAGE: When I win the lottery (or someone close to me does ;-) I'll buy a digital video camera - the true sounds and "feel" of a machine running in person is so much different though.
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Post# 20936-8/13/2002-00:05 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix Duomatic Found in Southern California (Duomatic drying)
MESSAGE: 1/2 gallon per minute while drying?? YIKES!
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Post# 20937-8/13/2002-00:07 ||| jetaction (Minnepolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Appliance dealers little help if any!!
MESSAGE: Let's see... when searching for parts and or machines, I have been told that I "have been out in the sun too long," "I am crazy," and "I will never find anything that old, as all that crap goes to the crusher as soon as it comes in." These are the most recent comments, I am always challenged when I approach this subject, but I keep the search going!
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Post# 20938-8/13/2002-00:39 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Jason HQOTS Where is My Map????
MESSAGE: As was stated in posts 20822 and 20834, it is easier to use Yahoo and mapquest for the directions. The address and phone numbers are in postes 20822 and 20834.
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Post# 20939-8/13/2002-01:20 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: Georgia wash-in(s)
MESSAGE: Aw great! Finally, after all my begging, there was an Atlanta wash-in, and I missed it! Would have driven over there lickety split to see a load done in the Golden Lady...
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Post# 20940-8/13/2002-01:25 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: ROLL CALL: Applianceville Convention (65 Lady K)
MESSAGE: Could I talk ya into doing a load of delicates? Always wanted to see the extra slo agitation in action...
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Post# 20941-8/13/2002-01:33 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: ROLL CALL: Applianceville Convention
MESSAGE: Arriving Thursday p.m. around 1, alone. I am staying with family in D.C. near Silver Spring (will have a full day alone Friday with my Sister's new Frigidaire Precision Wash - bout time!) and commuting over each day.
Will see all at the hotel Friday evening.
Appnut, if youre ever in Hotlanta again, lemme know ahead of time so's I can drive over. Im only 2 hours away.
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Post# 20942-8/14/2002-02:39 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Georgia wash-in(s)
MESSAGE: Gadget, the only washing in Atlanta was done in a Fridgemore. The vintage machines were here in Augusta.
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Post# 20943-8/14/2002-02:40 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: ROLL CALL: Applianceville Convention (65 Lady K)
MESSAGE: All right, who's bringing their see-thru nighties and silk blouses???. Any other unmentionables LOL (I"ve been hanging around Steve 1/18 too long already this week).
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Post# 20944-8/14/2002-02:42 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: ROLL CALL: Applianceville Convention
MESSAGE: Gadget, I'm sure we cna discuss when I'll be coming to Georgia again. I"m loved here so I'll need to return for the warm fuzzies and washes.
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Post# 20945-8/14/2002-06:04 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix Duomatic Found in Southern California (Thanks Greg!)
MESSAGE: Greg,
Thanks for talking about your Bendix. Sounds so cool! Will we see a working one at the convention?
It had to take a bit to sink in for me, and I had to get a tape measure out, 27" tub? That is huge!! That is larger than any domestic front loader's exterior cabinet, much less the wash tub.
I can't wait to see one in action.
You are so lucky to have one!
See you soon!
Brent
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Post# 20946-8/14/2002-07:08 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Interior for Gnasky1
MESSAGE: Oops, sorry about. Try this.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/pulsator88/rlst?.dir=/&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/pulsator88/lst%3f%26.dir=/Ebay%2bStuff/Easy%2bWhirldry%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 20947-8/14/2002-07:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Interior for Gnasky1
MESSAGE: Excellent - doesn't that agitator seem huge for the size of that tub? I've always wondered what the wash action of that machine was like. Norge/Mont. Wards also had a small portable model of this machine. Here's a page from the '78 Wards catalog I posted some time ago.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Bendix&.src=ph&.dnm=From+Detroit+to+My+Basement.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Bendix%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 20948-8/14/2002-07:31 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix Duomatic Found in Southern California (Duomatic drying)
MESSAGE: Yikes is right! I've pulled the drain hose over into the Hotpoint tub right next to the Duo to re-use the water for another wash load. The water coming out of the Duo is a lukewarm to cool, perfect for a dark load. A regular drying cycle more than fills the Hotpoint's tub. Re-using that clean, warm water makes it less decadent to use that dryer.
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Post# 20949-8/14/2002-07:31 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Appliance dealers little help if any!!
MESSAGE: "Oh. Those up-and-down Frigidaires? They suck. I used to just throw them to the curb. You can't fix them. Why the **** do you want one?" That's what the gruff sounding local used app dealer said. Then I tell him I collect washers and he just walks away shaking his head and muttering something under his breath.
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Post# 20950-8/14/2002-07:35 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Interior for Gnasky1 (Small washers are cool!)
MESSAGE: That's a fun looking washer. I bet it doesn't rollover all that great.
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Post# 20951-8/14/2002-07:37 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Appliance dealers little help if any!!
MESSAGE: The appliance store I go to started business selling Launderall washers in 1947. The owner shakes his head at me too so I just throw something like "Frigidaire gets clothes so clean, so quickly, so gently, entirely without harmful rubbing" and he snaps back "maybe no rubbing, just roping!" He's a great guy with a fascination for refrigeration so I think he understands my hobby a little. They rarely have ever called me on a machine they've found, but I think that's mostly because they just don't get the really old stuff anymore.
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Post# 20952-8/14/2002-07:44 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: POD - What year??
MESSAGE: Awesome looking appliances, love the rounded front on the washer, that looks very early fifties??
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Post# 20953-8/14/2002-07:55 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Appliance dealers little help if any!! (I knew I was not alone)
MESSAGE: well, obviously everyone shares my frustration on that subject matter, thanks to all for the feedback..........-GregM, I am ruling out the appliance dealers, they won't even tell me where the "junk yards" are..........
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Post# 20954-8/14/2002-08:08 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - What year?? (1944)
MESSAGE: This was a Hotpoint kitchen brochure from 1944 and this washer and dryer were probably just concept illustrations and never produced for the consumer market. Aren't they cool looking??
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Post# 20955-8/14/2002-08:59 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix Duomatic Found in Southern California (29"
Drum)
MESSAGE: The 1957-1960 Whirlpool and Kenmore Combo's had a 29" drum!
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Post# 20956-8/14/2002-10:24 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix Duomatic Found in Southern California (Incredible!)
MESSAGE: Robert that is incredible! I have never even seen a combo machine of any brand in person from this era. Although I knew that the cabinets were large, I did not know that the drums were so big. The opening was so small, that I figured that the drum was small also.
Will be able to play with one at the convention?
Brent
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Post# 20957-8/14/2002-10:43 ||| JoeEkaitis (Rialto, California, USA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - What year?? (I'd have guessed 1939 or 1940)
MESSAGE: They have that streamlined 1939 World's Fair look. :)
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Post# 20958-8/14/2002-12:53 ||| lkanon (USA)
SUBJECT: For Unimatic1140 (Robert)
MESSAGE: Hi Robert,
Thanks so much for the model # for GE Filter-Flo Washer.
I think I can see an advertisment over the washer in
your photo gallery. Can you e-mail it to me (maybe you
scanned it or something like that)? My e-mail is:
lkanon113@yahoo.com
I would very much appreciate it. My Mom's in a nursing
home and she would love to see it.
Best regards,
Thanks again.
Louis
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Post# 20959-8/14/2002-13:10 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - What year?? (1944)
MESSAGE: Yes, that is very cool, and you answered the questions I had about it in your post! I wondered if perhaps it was something conceptual from just before the war, but actually it was toward the end.
One of the estate sale houses we went to this weekend was sort of "50s rambler" in appearance outside (that style; it was larger than a typical rambler, if a bit oddly laid out, and it did have a second story that sort of "popped up" through the roof in the middle). Anyway, there were real estate description sheets, and it had been built in 1939. When you got inside there was still a lot of "art deco" influences; it wasn't as plain as the ones actually built in the 50s. So my thinking is, those concepts and designs were appearing in magazines and such before the war, and this rather forward-thinking for its time house got built just under the wire.
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Post# 20960-8/14/2002-13:11 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix Duomatic Found in Southern California (29)
MESSAGE: Next time I'm by a Duomatic or Whirlpool, I'll have to stick my head in there and look again. I knew they were large but I guess I'd forgotten or never realized how large! Certainly explains the oversize cabinets!
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Post# 20961-8/14/2002-14:01 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: For Unimatic1140 (Robert)
MESSAGE: Hi Louis,
I don't know what picture your referring to, but if you can find it, you can capture it by right clicking and selecting "Save Picture As".
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Post# 20962-8/14/2002-15:37 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix Duomatic Found in Southern California (29)
MESSAGE: 29" drum spinning at 200 rpm!
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Post# 20963-8/14/2002-15:42 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix Duomatic Found in Southern California (29)
MESSAGE: I wonder why, of the early combos, Bendix was the only one with a faster spin speed. GE and WP/KM combos at about 200-215 rpm, Westinghouse at 181 rpm - compared with Bendix at 505.
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Post# 20964-8/14/2002-16:12 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - What year?? (1944)
MESSAGE: That sounds like a neat house you saw, we have several areas here with homes of that vintage. I have a few issues of House Beautiful from the late 30's and early 40's that I may not have shown you when you were here. They are full of "concept" designs for homes with art deco and what were then 'contemporary' plans and ideas for building new homes. By the end of the thirties, the country was starting to climb out of the depression and things were looking up again as America's industrial and agricultural machines were sputtering back to life. There is a very interesting article on laundry and utility rooms in one of the mags, I should scan it sometime for everyone. It talks about the electric washer and ironer becoming more common in the home and things to consider when planning a cheerful and efficient space to process the family's laundry.
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Post# 20965-8/14/2002-19:32 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix Duomatic Found in Southern California (29)
MESSAGE: Bendix had the patent on the suspension system so they were the only ones with a suspension so they could go 505rpm. KM/WP and GE had no springs whatsoever so they could only do 200rpm and still they dance across the floor.
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Post# 20966-8/14/2002-19:41 ||| bendix5 (oregon)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix Duomatic Found in Southern California (spin speeds )
MESSAGE: I would imagine the spin speed was higher because of a better suspension system. Bendix was far superior with springs and shocks and most FL machines today still use that method. The kenmore or whirlpool if I remember had some sort of a sway action and then if it went off balance at all air was let out of the transmission and it took it back to a tumble and then started to spin again and would do that over and over until it achieved a well balanced load to get up to high speed. Transmissions were fairly simular if my memory is correct. I have only seen one Westinghouse combo ever and never a GE so I don't know how their systems went. Dano
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Post# 20967-8/14/2002-19:45 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix Duomatic Found in Southern California (29)
MESSAGE: They all had suspension systems, none of them were bolt-down machines which is the only other option. Westinghouse had a suspension system in their automatic washer which pre-dated even the Bendix combo by at least ten years. The only thing Bendix had the patent on was combination washer-dryer concept - the other manufacturers had to pay Bendix to make combos, but that has no relation to the suspension systems at all.
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Post# 20968-8/14/2002-20:46 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: John Lefever's collection
MESSAGE: Does anyone know if John still has the Duet HT he bought after the training session? Or was it only Turbo?
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Post# 20969-8/14/2002-21:31 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: (1967 or 68?) Maytag Washer
MESSAGE: I stopped by a good friend of mines today after taking a client to lunch and told him I was attending a vintage appliance convention this weekend, how much I love the old appliances and that I am trying to find, collect and restore them. He thought this was pretty cool and proceeded to tell me about a Maytag in his basement that came with his house that he is still using. Of course I said yes when he offered to show it to me. Well wouldn't you know it is EXACTLY, and I mean completely identical to the one my folks bought when I was about three or four and had for 23 years to follow. So here before my eyes was the machine I grew up with. He said it doesn't spin as fast as he thinks it should and that when you push the timer off, it doesn't grab and turn the timer dial. You have to sort of use your finger tips and push the timer along yourself to the beginning of the cycle you want and then pull to start. Otherwise it looks and works great. He said he plans on buying a new washer soon and that I can have this one. I am psyched for sentimental reasons. It is a rather plain, unfancy machine, but it is in "mint" condition in and out. I would have died and gone to heaven if he had the Frigidaire that came before the Maytag. My question is does anyone know what year the Maytag Model # A606 was made?
This just builds my excitement even more for this weekend !!
Thanks for reading, --GregM
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Post# 20970-8/14/2002-21:34 ||| mrcoffee (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: Dumb, stupid appliance dealers
MESSAGE: Well, for one, I have never worked up the nerve to tell used appliance dealers that their 5 year old Maytags and Kenmores are junk, and that I would be very stupid to buy one. However, I am about ready to the next time someone tells me that the GM Frigidaires aren't worth getting.
What jerks. Them and the stupid morons who work the salvege yards too.
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Post# 20971-8/14/2002-22:07 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix Duomatic Found in Southern California (29)
MESSAGE: Because from what I have read Bendix had pretty much tied up the patents on a combo with a suspension system and any one else who used a similar system would have to pay huge royalty payments to Bendix.
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Post# 20972-8/14/2002-22:08 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: (1967 or 68?) Maytag Washer
MESSAGE: I *think* the "06" series of washers came out around 1966, and extended perhaps into 1970 or the early 70s until the almost identical "07" series debuted. It is a common thing at estate sales here to see Maytags of this vintage and occasionally even older to be seen still hooked up and in service. I think we saw 2 or 3 of them this past weekend. Perhaps a rebuilt timer would solve that issue with the timer?
So, your Mom had a Frigidaire prior to this Maytag?? Which one? I wonder why she did not choose another Frigidaire to replace it?
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Post# 20973-8/15/2002-04:48 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: (1967 or 68?) Maytag Washer (reply to Scott)
MESSAGE: Hi Scott,
My mom loved her Frigidaire and I know she bought it in the fifties, it kills me to know that she didn't replace it with another one or that she didn't push it aside in the basement when she bought the Maytag. She always felt it was rough on the clothes but that it sure did clean them and spun them almost dry. I guess the Frigidaire had some problems (she doesn't remember what they were)and the repairman talked her into getting a Maytag telling her it would be gentler on clothes (having two speeds) and would be trouble free for years and it certainly was for the twenty three years she had it, not once did it need a service call, in fact when I look back on it, the trans/agitation was slowing especially when first starting up and the spin speed was slowing down, thats it. What causes the spin speed to slow with age??
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Post# 20974-8/15/2002-04:59 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: POD-GE
MESSAGE: Hasn't GE made their washers with the transmission/agitation speed and degree of turn in each direction along with spin speed the SAME since the sixties up to today? When a GE starts to spin you can hear these subtle/little clicks that to me almost sound like "shifts" as the spin speed builds to full and I always thought the degree of turn in agitation was shorter but faster in the older GE models in the 70's. The new GE washers today seem poorly built? Rather thin metal cabinet that does not seem to sturdy and talk about no style on some models. Don't get me started on the way they make things today vs yesterday. We charge more and get less, and that is suppose to be progress.
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Post# 20975-8/15/2002-06:06 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: The week so far
MESSAGE: As Appnut said, I have been having a semi exciting week. The reason I say semi is because I am dealing with the 'summer flu.' Went to the doctor, yesterday, and fortunately, I will live.
We had a great time Saturday. I picked up my new (used) Expedition that I bought on e-bay. Picked up Bob at the airport and WISKed him ALL the way to George's. As he said, he did a few loads in George's FL. We had a late dinner and carried on for hours. What a spread George put out for us.
We left Atlanta after 11 pm and continued laughing and farting all the way home (so much for the "new car" smell!)
Arrived in Grovetown about 1:30 am. Gave Bob the 2 cents tour and told him he would have to wait until later to tour the studio (I was pooped).
Sunday morning, we had breakfast and went to church. Bob got to meet lots of our church friends. They were excited to meet another washer boy, too. I am out to all my friends about my washer fetish and it pays. I've got spotters in two states!
On the way back home from church, I took Bob by a few of my appliance hunting grounds. There weren't any 'keepers' in the trash, today. I don't remember if we did any wash on Sunday, but later (around 4 pm) we went to a friends place to celebrate Rhinnie's birhtday.
Monday was wash day. I swept out the driveway and brought out all the wash. Bob settled in and started sorting and washing. (I got a few complaints from neighbors that they couldn't take showers because there wasn't any water pressure in the neighborhood -- just kidding!)
While Bob washed, dried, fluffed and folded, I moved machines about the greenhouse and carport. My 67 frigidare dryer was hooked up and did not work. Will have to check the circuits on that one.
I rolled out the 65 Custom Deluxe (that needed a starting capacitor) and hooked it up. The capacitor I found and tried, didn't have enough oooph to get it spinning, but with a little help from my hand, I got it spinning. We filled it with water and it had no leaks.
Next, I brought over the 1950 Unimatic. Bob got to witness the first time it was filled with water since arriving in Georgia. It too, was 'seaworthy.' I spun out the water (by hand as it does not spin, yet) and dryed it out.
By this time it was late in the afternoon. Time for a shower and supper. I had a headache and thought it was from being out in the sun and heat most of the day.
By Tuesday morning (3 am) I had chills. I had a health fair commitment and had all the equipment in my vehicle, so at 6 am I headed off. By 8 am I as feeling pretty good and thought the worst was over. ON my way home from the health fair, I stopped at Fox Appliance Parts and met Dick Fox. He was a real Unimatic fan. I got the bellow clip removed tools, and the correct starting capacitor for the 65 Custom Deluxe. I also got some advice about things to look at when I have the transmission of the Unimatic. He told me he is going to check the warehouse later this week because he's pretty sure he has the tub wrench I need. He was so excited about my hobby and very enthusiastic, too. I asked him to see if he had any 57 unimatics in the warehouse. We talked about the Launderall's. He had worked on those, too. The ABC-O- Matics, he said were also used to wash golf balls. And, did you know, the Unimatics were used by restaurants to wash, toss, and dry salads.
Tuesday afternoon, I was feeling a little rundown, again, so I took a nap. By 6 pm, I was hungry, so the three of us went out to eat and did a little shopping. I started feeling yucky, again, so I went to bed when we got home. I decided If I still felt bad in the morning, I would phone the doctor.
Wednesday morning, I was running a temp, so went in to see the doctor. I was diagnosed with the summer flu, and told to get plenty of rest, drink lots of fluids, yada, yada, yada.....
It's Thursday morning and I'm feeling petty good (so far). The plan is to take it easy, today, and pack the car for tomorrow's trip.
See you in DC!
Steve 1-18
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Post# 20976-8/15/2002-07:32 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Have a Safe Trip Everyone
MESSAGE: I'm off to the airport for the flight to Washington. Just wanted to wish everyone a safe trip and looking forward to seeing everyone tomorrow night. YAY our second annual convention!
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Post# 20977-8/15/2002-07:52 ||| parunner58 (Easton, PA)
SUBJECT: RE: Georgia wash-in(s) (Hi GregM)
MESSAGE: Greg,
I'm not sure with out looking at a map where in MA Worchester is but my 2 aunts are living in my grandmothers house in Springfield MA in the basement is a nice Bendix washer/dryer that is waiting to be brought back to life. It has been sitting there idle for years. Iremember goingthere in the late 60's and my mom using it. They never used the dryer part only the washer. I look forward to hear from you, my email is in my profile
Mike
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Post# 20978-8/15/2002-08:17 ||| Jeff_adelphi (Adelphi Maryland)
SUBJECT: RE: John Lefever's collection (Duet HT)
MESSAGE: I don't think John has his Duet Hooked up and running yet. I also got one from the training meeting and mine will be running Friday for all to see. I need a lot of dirty laundry to keep it happy. Looking foward to seeing everyone! Jeff
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Post# 20979-8/15/2002-09:17 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Georgia wash-in(s) (reply to Mike)
MESSAGE: Mike, thanks so much for the posting, I sent you an email and am DEFINATELY interested. Worcester (pronounced "Wistaahhh" with a heavy MAss accent-hahahaha) is about an hour and 15 minutes east of Springfield. Whereas I work "on the road" and that is my territory I am out that way all the time. Take care....-GregM
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Post# 20980-8/15/2002-10:00 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: John Lefever's collection (your house)
MESSAGE: Hi Jeff!
I'm trying to get a map to your house and I have 5 options. I have your zip as 20783. The Map site has you in Beltsville and in College Park? Which one do I use?
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Post# 20981-8/15/2002-10:10 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: John Lefever's collection (your house)
MESSAGE: He is actually in Adelphi.
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Post# 20982-8/15/2002-14:59 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: Most of us meeting at Holiday INN, 5ish? right?
MESSAGE: I am driving directly from MAss to the hotel, aren't most of us meeting there in the lobby? around 5ish? I guess I should just look for a group of people with dirty clothes? (ahahaha), whereas I do not know anyone; your feedback tonight before I leave in the AM is greatly appreciated. Look forward to meeting everyone and safe travels. - GREGM
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Post# 20983-8/15/2002-15:27 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Most of us meeting at Holiday INN, 5ish? right? (the hotel)
MESSAGE: Hi !
I will hope to see you there, but by the time I get in and get the rental car it might be a little after 5. My plane gets in at 4.
Mark Harman-Buseman
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Post# 20984-8/15/2002-15:30 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD-GE
MESSAGE: Greg, sadly the GE machines were completely redesigned in 1995 or so, and those made today are just horrendous and have nothing at all in common with their predecessors, least of all quality.
A few years before this happened, Consumer Reports called GE's machines and wash system "dated" (heaven forbid; they were belt driven and did not have a corkscrew agitator). I have sometimes wondered if this contributed to this awful demise.
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Post# 20985-8/15/2002-15:32 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Most of us meeting at Holiday INN, 5ish? right? (the hotel)
MESSAGE: Hello Mark Harman-Buseman, welcome to the club. Though I don't think I have seen you here before, I'm glad you are coming to the convention and know you will enjoy meeting everyone and will have a great time. Have you gotten together previously with some of the members in your general region? See you over the weekend!
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Post# 20986-8/15/2002-15:34 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: (1967 or 68?) Maytag Washer (reply to Scott)
MESSAGE: Greg, I am not surprised from what I have heard, that a repairman would have given her this information. Far as the machine being rough on clothes, perhaps she was having roping and tangling not knowing about the different method of loading to help prevent this. Too bad though, the machine didn't stay in the basement!
I have never been a big fan of Maytag, though in their day they were built with integrity and quality materials, unlike so much of what is made today. Does your mom have another Maytag now?
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Post# 20987-8/15/2002-15:53 ||| Lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Most of us meeting at Holiday INN, 5ish? right? (the hotel)
MESSAGE: Hi!
I was at the get-together a few years back and really had a great time. Can't wait to see everyone again tomorrow!
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Post# 20988-8/15/2002-15:54 ||| Lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: (1967 or 68?) Maytag Washer (reply to Scott)
MESSAGE: Hi Scott!
Sounds like it just needed new belts. Had they ever been replaced?
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Post# 20989-8/15/2002-16:14 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Have a Safe Trip Everyone (WOOHOO!)
MESSAGE: It's here at last!!!!!!!!
I'm getting in at 11:15am so if anyone is there to meet me that early, let me know.
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Post# 20990-8/15/2002-17:02 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: (1967 or 68?) Maytag Washer (reply to Scott)
MESSAGE: Hi, actually it is Greg M that had the Maytag. Belts are always one thing to consider, but I have heard that the Maytag transmissions are susceptible to becoming sluggish over time, esp. in colder weather, so that may have played into this situation too.
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Post# 20991-8/15/2002-20:07 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Anyone there early?
MESSAGE: Who will be there tomorrow at around 12:00noon when I get there? Anyone I can call to meet me there at the hotel? Thanks for any help.
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Post# 20992-8/15/2002-21:12 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Anyone there early? (I'll be there!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Jason, My plane gets in at 9:05 in the morning so I will be at the hotel. Give me a call Jason and anyone else there and we can at least get to know one another. Everyone have a safe trip!! Looking forward to seeing you all!!! Terry Lattz
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Post# 20993-8/15/2002-23:17 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: John Lefever's collection (Duet HT)
MESSAGE: Jeff, I have some stains form cooking and eating that I will bring with me on Friday night to laundry in the Duet. Thanks for the update. Looking forward to comparing it to a Fridgemore. Bob
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Post# 20994-8/15/2002-00:25 ||| frigemore (Chicago IL area)
SUBJECT: RE: John Lefever's collection (Duet HT)
MESSAGE: Oh come on Bob, We all know thery are not "food" stains...
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Post# 20995-8/16/2002-14:35 ||| parunner58 (Easton, PA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD-GE (Sadly to say I own one of the New GE washers)
MESSAGE: To Greg and Scott, I sadly own one of the new GE washers. My mom had a GE when we lived in Fort Knox when my dad was in the army there back in 1960. The army put GE's in all the base housing. The next whaser my mom bought was to replace the Apex wringer washer they had when they lived in Germany before the moved to Kentucky. We moved to Philadelphia in 1960 and they bought a Kenmore model 60 automatic, they had a lot of problems with the pump being eaten by the Tide my mom used. SHe then bought a GE with the Dispensal in it. I thought that was the neatest thing at the time. I know she had that for at least 15 years and has another GE now. When we bought our house in 1984 We bought a GE and Paid $469 for it and 7 years ago had to replace it with a new one. When we searched the internet and we picked the model we wanted the guy at the appliance store told us that they just redesigned all the washers, something not done in many years. THis was the same year that the Neptune and frontloaders were just becoming popular again. Well I bought one and surprisingly it was the same price as the one we had bought 13 years earlier. It was much quieter and held alot more but in 4 years all the rubber mounting brackets that held the tub assembly steady all broke and had to be replaced. after that it is no longer very quiet. compared to our Whirlpool dryer and the old washer the new one seems like it is made of tinfoil not steel. I think if anything happens to the dryer I am going to suggest getting a new pair with a front loading washer. At first it would have been a Neptune but I have read a few bad things about them. NOw I will have to investigate which i would get. Have a good convention and have fun Mike
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Post# 20996-8/16/2002-15:37 ||| lkanon (USA)
SUBJECT: Re: Convention
MESSAGE: Wish you all the very best during the convention.
I truly wish that I could be there!
Best regards,
Louis
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Post# 20997-8/16/2002-15:47 ||| lkanon (USA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD-GE (Re: Front loader)
MESSAGE: It's true that new washers are not made like they used too!
I just bought a White-Westinghouse 22lb washer and Dryer
and I also think these appliances are not very strong.
They scratch easy enough.
If you want a front loader, I suggest: Miele (German made).
My Mom and I had a Miele front loader for many years with
NO problems. I sold my Mom's Miele to my sister-in-law
and she loves it. It was bought in 1983 and has NEVER had
any breakdowns! Can you belive that? I wanted a top loader
and that's why I changed machines.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Louis
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Post# 20998-8/16/2002-19:12 ||| Frigemore (Chicago IL area)
SUBJECT: Happy I am with my Modern GE Dryer...
MESSAGE: I could not have made a better choice. Its the fastest drying gas dryer I have ever owned. I have had no problem with the modern GE art all.
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Post# 20999-8/17/2002-10:08 ||| westie (Siloam Springs, Arkansas)
SUBJECT: RE: (1967 or 68?) Maytag Washer (Maytag slow at startup and spin)
MESSAGE: My parents had a 1963 TOL maytag set and the washer after about 6 years would be slow at startup and spining. My dad replaced belts but didn't help. Cold weather was worse as they were in a cold utility room and would take acouple of loads to warm up. Dad called the Maytag repairman and he said maytag had changed the transmisson grease to a lighter type. He changed it out (I was at school) and washer worked great. Late 70's the dryer (gas) burnt a load of clothes and they replaced it with a new set and gave the old washer to my brother and his wife it is still washing for them. The 70's set mothers uses nearly everyday it was one of the first larger tub machines.
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Post# 21000-8/17/2002-10:12 ||| westie (Siloam Springs, Arkansas)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy I am with my Modern GE Dryer... (GE dryer)
MESSAGE: My wufe and I too are happy with our GE dryer (electric) we purchased last year after our 15 year old Kenmore started going out. We were never impressed with the drying time it had the soft heat then started hot then went down. The GE is fast goes nearly load to load with our washer which we like. Our son and his wife after seeing ours bought one andit dries twice as fast as their old one. No complaints yet.
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Post# 21001-8/17/2002-11:39 ||| Timothy (connecticut)
SUBJECT: magic clean filter on 1969 whirlpool.
MESSAGE: does anybody know what kind of self-cleaning filter Whirlpool used on there machines? I have not found one that did as good of a job as the one on my 1969 Whirlpool.
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Post# 21002-8/17/2002-13:05 ||| nmaineman36 (Portland Maine)
SUBJECT: RE: POD-GE
MESSAGE: Hey there Greg....The old GE washers used to agitate with a 155 degree arc at 100 strokes per min or spm. Still 155 is long and yet fast at 100spm. I have had a GE washer of the old design that lasted a miserable 6 years before the outer tub developed a hole at the pump bracket mount. It didnt hold much wash and the spiral agitator didnt wash all that great. I had the one that had the Handwash Agitator and the self cleaning filter ring that was like Hotpoints. And that washer was loud. The ticking noise you hear is the clutch dogs seating against the wall of the clutch that drives the belt. A GE clutch has too many parts as far as the 2 speed clutch. The one speed is simple. In many ways the clutch protects the motor from start up strain and allows the use of a one speed motor. Maytag uses a carriage that slides the motor to the front for wash for positive torque and to the center for spin for limited torque until the pump can remove all the water then it will tighten up against the belt for full spin at 618 rpms.
I have to agree that the new GE washers are crap and having one myself I wouldnt buy it again. The new GE washers still use a clutch but a very simple one and they use a 2 speed motor or variable speed motor. They move at 155 spm with a 90 degree arc and 640 rpms on high spin. The tub moves back and forth during wash since there is no way to stop the wash transmission torque from be transmitted to the suspension. When a GE washer fills the whole mechanism actually sinks with the weight of the water. During pump out and spin it rises. I have seen alot and I mean alot of young GE washers less than 5 years old being dumped because of problems and the same goes for Whirlpool. I guess in our throw away society they can make stuff cheap knowing it will not last 15 years like previous designs.
I did notice that your in Worcester and not far from me at all. Maybe we can get together sometime.
Mike
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Post# 21003-8/17/2002-15:22 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: Hoping eveyone is having a good time at the convention!
MESSAGE: I wish I could be there, but thing has been going down hill for me on this end!
So I must wish everyone a safe trip and happy washing all weekend long!
Take care and do a load for me!
Larry
CleanteamofNY
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Post# 21004-8/18/2002-05:23 ||| lkanon (Israel)
SUBJECT: Picture of the day
MESSAGE: Hi,
Can you please post an advertisment for the GE-Filter-Flo
Washing Machine from 1958 Model WA950R?
It would be great seeing it as the picture of the day!
Thanks,
Louis
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Post# 21005-8/18/2002-07:31 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: POD-GE
MESSAGE: Hey Mike - how are things going up in Maine?? I too had one of the new plastic GE's and it only lasted 2.5 years before it literally died. In fact GE actually bought it back from me. Before that I had one of the last filter flo models made somewhere around 1994. That one only went for 3 years - GE replaced it for me free in 1997 with the new plastic one. What was particularly sad was that before THAT, we had a filter flo from 1980 that was almost indestructible - seems like GE began to cut corners and cheapen the products even before they changed the design. Every used appliance store in my area is loaded with late (under 5 year old) GE/Hotpoint washers and of course the late model Whirlpools.
That said, I still miss my mini - basket. Even though Consumer Reports did not think it was that energy efficient, it was great for that one black shirt that needed to be washed alone or those few pairs of wool socks...
On a different note since Greg is not that far from you and only 2 hours from me, perhaps we should have a New England get together........
Regards, Anthony
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Post# 21006-8/18/2002-07:32 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Hoping eveyone is having a good time at the convention!
MESSAGE: Hey Larry - I couldn't go either - a few personal and financial issues here are keeping me hopping - hope things right themselves for you really soon.......
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Post# 21007-8/18/2002-19:04 ||| frigemore (Chicago IL area)
SUBJECT: OH MY!! What happened to everyone???
MESSAGE: You don't think they all fell into a Jet Cone and got pounded senseless or worse??? Or... Did Bob have a party in his room and serve that left over KoolAid from a Jim Jones Party??
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Post# 21008-8/18/2002-20:09 ||| nmaineman36 (Portland Maine)
SUBJECT: RE: POD-GE
MESSAGE: hey there Angus, That would be a great idea having people here in New England meet. I am going to Omaha the last week of September for a week there to see friends and such. And I am going to be in Albany this coming weekend..so I do get around.
Mike
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Post# 21009-8/18/2002-22:57 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT: Have a safe trip home
MESSAGE: To all those who attended the convention and are headed home: have a safe and pleasant trip.
Looking forward to all the stories and photos.
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Post# 21010-8/19/2002-10:03 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: Appliance Convention:A Washday Miracle Come True!
MESSAGE: Home safe and sound from my first appliance convention. To say that is was a blast would be an understatement! So many people to thank for all their hard work and dedication to this group. So thanks to you all with a special thanks to John LeFever for opening up his house, shop, and collection to us guys. With a thanks also to him for my new Kenmore Washer/Dryer Combo that I purchased! What a thrill to finally own one! Also, to all the new club members that I met: Thanks for your wonderful friendship/ We will all be together in this club for a long long time! PS The Kelvinator with the X-Centric wash action was the star of the convention, or so it seemed!.........It sure got LOTS of onlookers and attention..........Jimmy
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Post# 21011-8/19/2002-12:36 ||| geodon2000 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Appliance Convention:A Washday Miracle Come True!
MESSAGE: i wholeheartedly agree...
many thanks to jeff, john, and imperialbob for their hospitality, and for allowing us to invade their homes and warehouses, to play with their toys...
jeff and i had a wonderful time seeing/meeting you all...
and three cheers to jamie's mom...what a lucky kid...
geodon
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Post# 21012-8/19/2002-13:19 ||| JoeEkaitis (Rialto, California, USA)
SUBJECT: August 19, 2002 Picture of the Day (Dash® advertisement)
MESSAGE: When Consumer Reports publishes their tests of laundry detergents, they point out that what looks like healthy competition for your detergent dollar (given the staggering number of brands on the shelf) is really a major battle between Proctor & Gamble and Lever, with a few minor contenders scurrying for what's left of the market. There's even deliberate competition within the ranks of P&G and Lever.
The vintage Dash ad Picture of the Day shows that even back then, Proctor & Gamble was confecting a competition between two of its own brands: Tide, whose ads claimed that mountains of suds were the ONLY way to get clothes clean, even in an automatic washer; and low-sudsing Dash, touting the freedom of motion afforded by an absence of suds.
Have things changed that much since then? Well, regular Tide STILL churns up mountains of suds, so P&G brought forth minimal-sudsing Tide HE for high-efficiency washers.
Gee, guys, why didn't you just call it Dash? :)
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Post# 21013-8/19/2002-17:54 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Appliance Convention:A Washday Miracle Come True! (FANTASTIC TIME!!!!!)
MESSAGE: Add my name to that list as well!! A big round of applause goes out to everyone who made the convention such a success. We sure did have a great time. Special thanks go out to Jeff and Cal for the great get-together they had for us Friday evening at their home, for John and Cliff for the fantastic party at the museum, you guys should have seen how neat that place looked with the special lighting effects they had, to John L and Cliff for the delicious brunch and playtime at their home on Sunday morning and to Imperial Bob for a wonderful and fun ending to it all. The convention just couldn't have gotten any better. Seeing everyones collection and all of the neat stuff at the museum was like reliving the best parts of childhood over again. We are all truly blessed to be part of this group! I am sure that this was an event that Jamie or any of us for that matter will ever forget. Thanks again guys for everything.
Terry
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Post# 21014-8/19/2002-18:20 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: Appliance Convention:A Washday Miracle Come True! (PHOTO CD SOUVENIRS)
MESSAGE: A DAY LATE - BUT STILL FREE!!
There are 20 copies ready to be mailed out of the souvenir CD rom I had intended to have ready for you by the end of the third leg, but, alas, I was too busy moving appliances up the basement stairs to be clicking at the computer manufacturing the discs. A few short hours this morning of steady clicking, however, did the trick.
ANYONE who was here at the third leg of the convergence, PLEASE email me at robert.wirth2@verizon.net and let me know your snail mail address so I can send you a copy of this CD-rom. It contains PHOTOS, MUSIC, and VIDEOS both of my own personal collection, as well as YEARS worth of internet downloading. I'm sure you'll find it amusing and informative for DECADES TO COME.
BEST WISHES & I LOVE YOU ALL!
IMPERIAL BOB WIRTH
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/ONAROLL/INDEX.htm
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Post# 21015-8/19/2002-18:55 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Appliance Convention:A Washday Miracle Come True! (FANTASTIC TIME!!!!!)
MESSAGE: Yes! It was a fabulous time! John and Cliff, Jeff and Cal, and Bob Wirth are wonderful hosts. (And of course Robert Stokes, who a few of us got to visit Sunday evening.)
Several machines held special significance for me -- the Kelvinator and Speed Queen that were running at John's warehouse; the old Kenmore (sorry, I forget the year) at Bob Wirth's, which is the first machine my grandmother had; and the 1964 Whirlpool Mark XII at John's warehouse.
I got to visit with people I met at the Minne convention, and also meet some new people. I saw a Duet, a Calypso, a 1-18, a Kenmore combo, and a Haier run -- all for the first time. I'll be sorting out all the memories for weeks to come!
Don -- hope you got that 1965 LK console home OK. I saw you carrying it through BWI while I was waiting to board at my gate. 8-)
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Post# 21016-8/19/2002-19:10 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: Appliance Convention:A Washday Miracle Come True! (jeff &cal, john & cliff, bob & ........)
MESSAGE: If not for my partner Steve Collins, there'd have been no weenies on the rotisserie at all.....he was the grill master & co host of the third leg of the tour. So while we're practicing the good names, it goes,
JEFF & CAL, JOHN & CLIFF, and BOB & STEVE.
THANKS AGAIN.
I'm so glad we had this time together,,,,,,,,just to have a laugh or sing a song.....
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/CARRYOLA/INDEX.HTM
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Post# 21017-8/19/2002-23:09 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Appliance Convention:A Washday Miracle Come True! (Good Time Had By All)
MESSAGE: The entire DC branch of the SRVAA is to be commended on the fine job they did for the troups!!! A big Unimatic YAY to them!!! And it was so great to see everyone again! One really big happy family!
-ph
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Post# 21018-8/19/2002-23:17 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Home again, home again
MESSAGE: Well, it was indeed another wonderful appliance convention, and once again it just flew right on by. I think it's safe to say though that everyone had a wonderful time, and once again our multiple hosts were just second to none. Thank you to John and Cliff, Jeff and Cal, and Bob and Steve (and anyone I'm forgetting or who worked behind the scenes that I didn't know about) for their wonderful hospitality, welcoming us into their homes and warehouses, letting us have fun, serving wonderful food and for making us feel right at home!
It was wonderful to see all my old friends, including some I had not seen since last convention, and there were so many more new people to meet this year, both from the club as well as local friends of the hosts; it was really a delightful weekend in every way.
Very happy to see everyone reporting in as they return home, here's hoping everyone has had, is having, or will have a safe return! I'll be in touch with everyone by and by! It's always strange being back the first day after an event like this, kind of like coming home from camp after a week and having been with all your friends. It is very cool and unhumid in Minnesota right at the moment and my roommate tells me it was downright chilly over the weekend, so I am happy to leave the 90s for my friends in Maryland and Virginia, LOL
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Post# 21019-8/19/2002-23:38 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Appliance Convention:A Washday Miracle Come True!
MESSAGE: Convention #2 under my belt. Tbanks to Cal & Jeff, John and Cliff, and Bob and Steve for opening their houses and collections to us to play with. I FINALLY got to see a Duet run. And to relive the 1965 Kenmore LK combo again from my childhood (when I went home for the last time b4 my parents moved out this may, I TOOK A PHOTO OF THE DOOR THAT ENTERED THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR RIGHT BY THAT WASHER TO "ENSHRINE" THAT MEMORY FOR ME). The food was fantastic that we were bestowed with by our hosts. And three cheers and a slute to Jamie, our youngest member and one of our most enthusiastic. Watching you Jamie was a treat and a charge of enthjsuasm again for me. And for Cheryl, a big YAY for such a kewl lady. You are awesome to be so understanding and supportive of Jamie. I'll be leving Georgia to head back to Texas and will post again. Bob
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Post# 21020-8/19/2002-00:34 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: Attention Please -- Bum CD-R Discs
MESSAGE: If anyone to whom I gave a CD comes up with a blank disc (I've been advised of one case thus far), please contact me at the e-mail address in my App'ville profile and I'll send a replacement.
I only brought 10 discs, didn't have time to do more. If anyone who didn't get a disc wants one (it's just some amateur video clips of the boring ol' F&P, LOL, and some other material from the club archives that everyone has probably already seen), let me know as well.
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Post# 21021-8/19/2002-00:41 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: Fun! Fun! Fun!
MESSAGE: Wanted to say that Peter and I made it back safe to Atlanta!
I had a great time. As with everyone else's postings, I want to personally thank again Cal & Jeff, John & Cliff, and Bob & Steve for your wonderful giving and sharing and your never seeming to be too tired for more questions, and party favors. It was so nice and educational.
It was also so nice to put faces and wonderful personalties together, with club screen names.
When I came back home, I loved on my animals for a good bit, and then called my parents to let them know that I made it home okay. My mom was really interested in the trip because she has been an antique dealer for about 40 years, and has made friends all of the world from her dealings. She told me that I was so lucky to find a club with my interest, and was actually able to meet everyone in person. She has been keeping in touch with about 45 persons for about 30 years by mail and now email, and has only met in person about 5 of them over that 40 year time span. After we ended the call, I thought about how cool it would be for us to keep this going, and watching it grow, and one day getting together and talking about when I first bought my HE3T 30 years ago, and how I had crushed 3 years later. (That was for Unimatic :) (I will keep it running!)
I feel that I have made some wonderful friends!
I had a very special time! I really needed this trip in my life at this point, and I feel really positive personally because of it!
Thanks to everyone!
Brent
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Post# 21022-8/19/2002-01:47 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: Appliance Convention:A Washday Miracle Come True!
MESSAGE: The time really flew by each day as we gathered. I could have watched the Kelvinator at the museum and the Calypso at John's and the Gibsonaire at Jeff's and the Laundromat at Bob's wash load after load and never got bored. I relived some wonderful memories watching the SQ go through its paces (Jason - hope the video came out well) and encountering some other throwbacks to my childhood at the museum. It was also nice to see up close and personal appliances that I had seen only in public library microfiches of old magazine ads.
After the shakiness of last spring and with some other things Ive observed on Applianceville, I really didnt know what to expect meeting everybody in person. I resolved that if everyone was a bastard, I didnt care - I was there for the machines. But everyone to a man and woman (and child, Jamie!) was warm and personable.
A big huge thanks to John, Jeff, and Bob, and all their helpers for all the hard work, all the eats, and for making for me 3 days I wont soon forget.
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Post# 21023-8/20/2002-07:58 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Fun! Fun! Fun! (Keep getting better year after year!)
MESSAGE: We will have to keep this going and going, everyone had such a great time! I'm still laughing and am very grateful for the fun and good memories that we all shared. A big thank you to our hosts for the weekend and to everyone that was there - it wouldn't have been the same without all of our friends, old and new.
Best wishes to everyone for a safe trip home and a prosperous coming year until our next convention. I heard several groups talking of mini wash-in gatherings around the country through the coming months by new friends who met this last weekend, I'm so glad we have such a great bunch of people who have been able to meet and become closer. Let's keep it going every year!
Greg
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Post# 21024-8/20/2002-08:00 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD-GE (mini wash-in for Omaha?)
MESSAGE: Mike - I hope you have a washer-play stop in mind for your Omaha trip here, it would be fun to meet you! Drop me an email and let me know your plans so we can find some time in your schedule.
Greg
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Post# 21025-8/20/2002-08:31 ||| jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: Great Summit!!! MASS MINI WASH IN INFO
MESSAGE: Hi Everyone:
Aloysius and I had a wonderful time meeting everyone and washing it up at Jeff& Cals'! Two very gracious hosts I will add!!
We had a nice drive back with Louis and he has presented me with a bag of "DIXAN" detergent with BLUE crystals! I am headed to the basement right now!
Thank you to John, Tom, Jeff&Cal, Cary&Rick for moving all those machines , and Cliff and his WONDERFUL POT STICKERS and welcoming spirit!!! AND last but very fondly Michael-it was great to see you there!! Send me that nasty picture!!!
See you all online soon!
Cheers Jon & AL
GregM & Earthling117 and CalypsoBruce -- Lets have the mini MASS Wash-In this week??, how does Wednesday/Thursday look?? Send me an email when you can!
Jon/Jetcone
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Post# 21026-8/20/2002-09:51 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: Home Safe and Sound
MESSAGE: Steve, Rhinnie and Bob (and the Poppies) checking in. All home safe and sound. Taking bob to the airport today (If I can drag him out of the 'studio.'
Steve 1-18
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Post# 21027-8/20/2002-09:53 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Attention Please -- Bum CD-R Discs (Bad CD)
MESSAGE: My cd didn't have appliance pictures, but I'll keep it just the same!!!!!!
Just kidding.
Steve 1-18
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Post# 21028-8/20/2002-11:07 ||| Jetaction (Minnepolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Appliance Convention:A Washday Miracle Come True! (FANTASTIC TIME!!!!!)
MESSAGE: I made it home safe and sound, even with a washer console as a carry on! I was a bit concerned about trying to carry on something with all those wires and a timer, but security was not concerned, as long as I didn't have tools. What a wonderful weekend it was. Thanks to all of you who were so generous with your time and hospitality!
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Post# 21029-8/20/2002-13:05 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Fun! Fun! Fun!
MESSAGE: I don't know what to say except thanks to our hosts and the people behid the scenes for making my fist convention a blast. I had so much fun and enjoyed meeting all the members who attended. So many laughs and good fun and all the toys we got to play with. I will not soon forget this time. I am sure the next one will be even better.
Cheers to all,
Bruce
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Post# 21030-8/20/2002-13:39 ||| geodon2000 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Fun! Fun! Fun! (spelling faux pas?...)
MESSAGE: fist convention????...
and all i saw was laundry...
was a pleasure meeting you bruce...
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Post# 21031-8/20/2002-14:26 ||| Mdpoke (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: Hosting the SRVAA Washington 2002
MESSAGE: Just a word...
Being my 1st convention and also new to the appliance game, I would like to take this opportunity to say thank you to all who attended. I had a fantastic weekend. What a joy helping John, Jeff, Cal, Bob & Steve host such great people. This weekend exceeded all expectations on my part. So once again thank you for making me (an appliance novice) feel so welcomed in your organization. I look forward to many lasting friendships with all of you.
Always,
Cliff
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Post# 21032-8/20/2002-15:21 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Great Summit!!! MASS MINI WASH IN INFO
MESSAGE: ...as opposed to when Robert comes to visit you, when I assume you have a Mass-"Minne" wash-in. ;-) It was great to see you again Jon, and to meet Al! Scott
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Post# 21033-8/20/2002-15:23 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Fun! Fun! Fun!
MESSAGE: Glad you had fun Bruce! It was fun meeting you and I look forward to seeing you again in future.
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Post# 21034-8/20/2002-16:00 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: BEST TIME OF MY LIFE!!!
MESSAGE: That was awesome! I have never had more fun! Walt Disney World isn't as fun! Thank you to the hosts and the members for welcoming me and my mom into this great big family!
Well this is embarising. But, someone wanted my address to send me manuals well here it is!
3229 Diuble Rd
Ann Arbor, Michigan
48103
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Post# 21035-8/20/2002-16:01 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: How Fun Was That!!!
MESSAGE: I'm home safe and sound now too, Gladys, our little puppy is about three times the size than when I left on Thursday! It was so wonderful to see everyone again and meet many new members too! A big huge large-capacity thanks and hugs goes out to Jeff and Cal, John and Cliff, Bob and Steve and everyone else involved who put in many hours in preparation for this most wonderful event. It's so fun to be part of such a wonderful group of people, and a group that I would have never thought could be possible just 10 years ago. To quote my mother "I still can't believe there are others like you". YAY, thankfully there are, and there are lots of us!
I'm still in convention mode so its time to rev up the machines and do some laundry!
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Post# 21036-8/20/2002-16:05 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Appliance Convention:A Washday Miracle Come True! (jeff &cal, john & cliff, bob & ........)
MESSAGE: Very fun videos BOB! You have the coolest house and what fun things you have, appliances and other antiques too! Thanks again for hosting Sunday was just incredible!
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Post# 21037-8/20/2002-16:11 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: BEST TIME OF MY LIFE!!! (It was me!)
MESSAGE: Hi Jaime:
I was the one sending you manuals. It was nice meeting you and your Mom! That Sunday, at Jeff & Cals was terrific getting to know you and Sheryl.
I will go dig and see what I can find and will let you know when I send them so you can keep an eye on the mail!
Cheers :)
Jetcone & Aloysius
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Post# 21038-8/20/2002-17:01 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: BEST TIME OF MY LIFE!!! (It was me!)
MESSAGE: Thank you so much! I am sorry that I forgot your name. It is hard to get to know 50 people in 3 days. Also my moms name is Cheryl.
Best Washes
-Jamie-
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Post# 21039-8/20/2002-17:16 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: great time...thanks
MESSAGE: Gary and I made it home safe and sound today. What a blast! It was so good to see old friends and meet so many new ones. Thank you Jeff & Cal, John & Cliff, and Bob & Steve for opening your homes to us. And thank you Tom Turbo, for moving some of your machines over to John's warehouse for us to enjoy. Thanks everyone for some great memories and a fun time.
Rich
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Post# 21040-8/20/2002-17:57 ||| earthling177 (Boston, MA)
SUBJECT: RE: How Fun Was That!!!
MESSAGE: Hi!
We're back home safe and sound too...
How fun was that? Well, let's just say that Dave had to drag me back home kicking and screaming... :-)
A huge thanks to everyone involved in the entire thing, organizing, preparing, arranging, cleaning, collecting etc. The homes were just unbelievably cool, the food was fantastic and the collections are out of this world. The only complaint I had is how short it was (which is understandable) and that I didn't have more time to talk to people more, there's no way to catch up on everything with everyone.
Well, that's not exactly true, I had one more "complaint" in that it would have been so cool to finally meet the people who unfortunately could not make it this time. Y'all were missed, I hope we can meet next time!
Thanks again!
-- Paulo.
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Post# 21041-8/20/2002-18:11 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: 2 days after
MESSAGE: 2 days after the convention and I can still hear those washers running!
This was a real eye-opener for me. Finally I get to meet a whole group of people who love washing machines (AND RECORD PLAYERS!) as much as I do. Well, I'm compiling all the video for DVD mastering. Of course, a silly music video will be made of the convention along with a good 2 hours of machines and good friends.
Thanks Robert and the other hosts (Jeff, John, etc...) for hosting such a great time.
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Post# 21042-8/20/2002-18:29 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Attention Please -- Bum CD-R Discs
MESSAGE: My disc wasn't blank - lots of cool stuff on it. Thank you again for the work, what a great resource this is. I'm shopping for a CD burner soon!
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Post# 21043-8/20/2002-18:31 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 2 days after
MESSAGE:
Thanks in advance to you too Jason - let us know if you'd like us to pay for your materials and shipping, it would be a pleasure!
It was great meeting you at the convention - there's more to come in the future, maybe we can combine one with some roller coasters!
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Post# 21044-8/20/2002-18:31 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: BEST TIME OF MY LIFE!!!
MESSAGE: Hi, Pulsator!
I'm sorry I didn't get to visit with you and your mom very much. There's always so much going on with various little groups going off to do different things that it's impossible to get in a good visit with everyone.
Your mom is a very special lady for bringing you to the convention. And she seemed quite interested in all of it, too!
When I was about your age, maybe a little younger, I had one of those self-help service manuals from Sears. I somehow convinced my mom to order it for me. It got lost (or worn out!) years ago. I also had some sales literature from GE, KitchenAid, and Whirlpool (also some Whirlpool service literature). I wish I still had it. You be sure and take good care of all the materials you collect from now on, so you don't end up being sorry that you lost something or threw it away!
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Post# 21045-8/20/2002-18:33 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: BEST TIME OF MY LIFE!!!
MESSAGE: Jamie, it was so fun meeting you and your mother at the convention and I'm so glad that you enjoyed the machines, I knew you would! There is so much to learn about these gems, you will be a pro by the next convention!
Give our best to your mom and thank her again for us for bringing you!
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Post# 21046-8/20/2002-18:38 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Attention Please -- Bum CD-R Discs (Bad CD)
MESSAGE: Oh my! I do believe I've just received a slapppppp from somewhere in GA. 8-)
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Post# 21047-8/20/2002-18:43 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: Convention - THANKS !!!
MESSAGE: Many thanks to the profound hospitality bestowed by the hosts and to everyone who put this together. Aaron and I had a great time and enjoyed meeting everyone. (I think I had just a bit better time than Aaron-haha). It is nice to now be able to read/place postings and associate names and faces. I can't begin to tell you how excited I was to unload my new purchases into my parents basement last night. I feel very fortunate to have found this club and to have met others who are into this as much as me.
Best regards, GregM
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Post# 21048-8/20/2002-18:50 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: Meeting new people
MESSAGE: My apologies to those whom I did not and/or take the time to try and meet. I was like a little kid and selfishly caught up in my own little world. (and trying not to ignore my other half to much whereas he was extremely supportive in hanging out by himself quite a bit while we were there). I do hope everyone enjoyed this as much as I did. To those whom I did meet and correspond with, it was indeed a pleasure. To those whom I did not meet, I hope to say "hello" to in the future.
Best regards, GregM
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Post# 21049-8/20/2002-18:54 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: BEST TIME OF MY LIFE!!! (VERY IMPORTANT!)
MESSAGE: When I was about 10 years old, my uncle took apart the 1970 Lady Kenmore. My cousin got the agitator and I got the control panel. I kept it a few years and then threw it away :-( . I wish I still had that panel. I bet the timer would've worked and everything. Never throw stuff from your childhood away. Never throw away anything appliance related. I have a few toys and stuff from my childhood and I cherish those things with my life. I have the Sears sale catalog from where I got my frontloader. It's vintage now it is a part of my collection. 20 years from now I'll be 51 years old and I'll be able to look at that sale catalog and remember the day the Frigemore came home. Hopefully, I'll still have the Frigemore because I will keep it running as long as there are parts available.
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Post# 21050-8/20/2002-19:14 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: BEST TIME OF MY LIFE!!! (VERY IMPORTANT!)
MESSAGE: Jason, that is very good advice to pass on to younger people. I think we all have had hold of things in our lives we'd give anything to have again, and of course we sometimes wind up paying a fortune to have them again, if we can find them at all.
It was great meeting you at the convention, and I'm so glad you had a good time. I will look forward to your DVD and as Greg said too, I will be happy to contribute for your time, material and effort. Scott
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Post# 21051-8/20/2002-19:24 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Meeting new people
MESSAGE: Greg, I'm glad you gentlemen had a good time, and you enjoy those collection pieces you acquired, they are, needless to say, some very nice ones indeed! Are these your first vintage machines?
Your first appliance convention is a very busy and overwhelming time, getting to meet and talk with all the people you know only by words on a screen up to then, trying to catch up with as many as you can while also busily trying to see and experiment with all the different machines, and so many at that! It definitely does put one in a "kid in a candy store" state of mind!
Whilst I was one of the folks who did not have an opportunity to visit with you and Aaron, we have had a nice time interacting on the club, and now I have faces in my mind! We'll catch up on the next go-round!
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Post# 21052-8/20/2002-19:42 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Meeting new people (Sounds like a wonderful collection!)
MESSAGE: I just went to your profile, and see you have a collection of all sorts of wonderful things! That's great! I see you already went in and typed in the Whirlpool washer! ;-) Is your Easy washer a spindrier?
Tip of the Day (to all): It is sometimes easy to forget about the other sections of the club in addition to the posting section. They are a fount of information and visual delight!
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Post# 21053-8/20/2002-19:53 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: GregM's Collection
MESSAGE: The 1953 Whirlpool is new? Did you get that in MD?
I must confess that I didn't pay any attention to the bids on John's sale items. Let's have a report on who bought what, or acquired or traded this or that.
As I recall, Jetcone brought the two Stabers to Jeff in exchange for the GE combos.
GregM got a GE Mobile Maid from Imperial Bob.
Jetaction got a 1965 LK console from Syndets2000.
Pulsator got a 1-18 jetcone from ?
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Post# 21054-8/20/2002-20:02 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: GregM's Collection
MESSAGE: Unfortunately I didn't walk away with a 1959 Lady Kenmore :-(
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Post# 21055-8/20/2002-20:13 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: GregM's Collection (OLD LADY WHIRLPOOL)
MESSAGE: GregM's new 1953 Whirlpool is my Old Lady Whirlpool. I'm not sure how you missed seeing us carry the old girl up the stairs. That washer is a heavy one.
Boy am I tired now behind all of this.
Nighty night all.
BOB
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Post# 21056-8/20/2002-20:19 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: GregM's Collection (OLD LADY WHIRLPOOL)
MESSAGE: Bob, Glenn was one of the folks who went on to Bob Stokes' house, which was before the appliance moving began. The parade of appliances coming up from the basement was quite something! Sleep well!
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Post# 21057-8/20/2002-20:25 ||| nmaineman36 (Portland Maine)
SUBJECT: RE: POD-GE (mini wash-in for Omaha?)
MESSAGE: Hey there Greg...that would be great to do a wash in. I am going to be driving to Omaha on 9/19 and coming back here 9/26 so we can meet and go appliance stalking at the Mart..I miss that place and the wash in..I think its gonna take 2 days to get there and the reason I am driving is to get the rest of my stuff and ship alot of it from my ex's. Should be alot of fun and I am looking forward to it.
Mike
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Post# 21058-8/20/2002-20:50 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: I'm Home
MESSAGE: Hi Guys,
I just got home a short time ago - I wanted to say these past few days have been so great - I enjoyed meeting all of you. I hope we all stay in touch. I wish we could do it all over again. If any of you guys will be in New York please let me know - I would like to hookup.
Many Blessings to all
Jetaction
Peter
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Post# 21059-8/20/2002-20:55 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm Home
MESSAGE: It was a pleasure meeting you as well Peter, glad you made it home safe! :)
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Post# 21060-8/20/2002-21:27 ||| jeff_adelphi (Adelphi Maryland)
SUBJECT: Thanks to all
MESSAGE: Thanks To everyone for taking the time and expenses of coming to Maryland. It's certainly all the great folks who make an event, and our pleasure to provide the place. Appreciate all the kind words, we had a blast too.
If your ever in the area let us know, we would love a mini wash-in too.
Jeff and Cal
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Post# 21061-8/20/2002-21:28 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: I AM HOME!!!!
MESSAGE: Got home safe & sound, well maybe not sound though. Had a great time. Steve unloaded and connected the poppy pair. WAsher does need some tweaking. I got to christen the dryer with its first Applianceville load. We did 4 loads of wash, one in the Kenmore 900, one in the 1/18, and 2 in the RapidDry. Now off tomorrow to get my pics developed!!!
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Post# 21062-8/20/2002-21:31 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: GregM's Collection (OLD LADY WHIRLPOOL)
MESSAGE: Well, geeze, sheesh, and dammnit! See what I mean about missing stuff when little groups go off on their own treasure hunts?! I did see the Mobile Maid carted up, though.
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Post# 21063-8/20/2002-21:41 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: GregM's Collection (OLD LADY WHIRLPOOL)
MESSAGE: Greg got the Whirlpool washer, and Jon Charles that Westinghouse dryer. So, Bob's basement is a bit emptier now than when we got there that afternoon!
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Post# 21064-8/20/2002-21:58 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Meeting new people (thanks Scott)
MESSAGE: thanks for saying that Scott :)
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Post# 21065-8/20/2002-22:01 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Meeting new people (it is !!)
MESSAGE: The Easy washer is a spindrier and I am picking it up in NY this weekend, uggghhh, more driving, I drive an average of 800+ miles a week for my job and now another 350 Saturday to pick up this washer. But I shall not complain, it could be alot worse............... :)
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Post# 21066-8/20/2002-22:04 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: GregM's Collection
MESSAGE: Hi Glenn,
I got the washer at Bob's as well. I feel very confident about it after seeing it work and knowing the history somewhat of what has been done to it vs. some of the other items that were up for bid. I wanted to come home with one dishwasher and one washer so I am very lucky and very grateful.
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Post# 21067-8/20/2002-22:39 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GregM's Collection (OLD LADY WHIRLPOOL)
MESSAGE: I 'traded' Jon Charles a new (dry) shirt for a fabulous filter for my Kelvinator washer and Tom Turbo gave me a deepwell kettle for my 58 Range (woohoo!) I played with both last night and they both work perfectly, except there's still no lint in the filter after the cycle, Jon.....
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Post# 21068-8/20/2002-22:42 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD-GE (mini wash-in for Omaha?)
MESSAGE: Excellent! We'll work out the details as we get closer. I was craving a stop at the 'Mart' last week, just had to have a walk around - I can't believe how much new refrigerators cost, I must be in some sort of time warp - when did plastic become a rare, valuable commodity?
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Post# 21069-8/20/2002-22:48 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GregM's Collection (Just Add Water....)
MESSAGE: I was so close to making an offer on that yellow Westy dishwasher/drawer, it was so pretty.
You really snagged some b