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Post# 22001-9/12/2002-16:27 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Question about ABC-O-Matic wash action (Kelvinator, Kelvinator...)
MESSAGE: Hi and welcome! Have you checked out the vintage commercials link on the homepage? There's a great commercial for Kelvinator washers - lots of singing!
Greg
LINK: http://www.classicappliances.com/vintage_audio.htm
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Post# 22000-9/12/2002-16:27 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Question about ABC-O-Matic wash action (Kelvinator, Kelvinator...)
MESSAGE: Hi and welcome! Have you checked out the vintage commercials link on the homepage? There's a great commercial for Kelvinator washers - lots of singing!
Greg
LINK: http://www.classicappliances.com/vintage_audio.htm
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Post# 22002-9/12/2002-17:20 ||| eugene (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: Re: ABC-like wash action
MESSAGE: Thanks for the quick replies, guys! The washer was definitely a Kelvinator. I don't recall if it had a window or not. I just remember peeking in and seeing the entire agitator moving around the tub, rather than simply oscillating. This is a great site. My new home!
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Post# 22003-9/12/2002-17:23 ||| eugene (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: Philco Wash Action
MESSAGE: OK, I'm the new guy here, so I'm going to be asking questions which may be very obvious to the rest of you, but... I saw someone's pix of an early '60's Philco washer. I didn't see agitator blades. How does it create its obviously vigorous wash action?
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Post# 22004-9/12/2002-17:52 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco Wash Action (Philco video)
MESSAGE: Philco mechanism running without tub
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Post# 22006-9/13/2002-17:01 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Were Up (I Think)
MESSAGE: Unfortunately the server's full hard drive has also erased our Classified Ads section completely. I don't have a backup of the recent ads, but I will get that system working again later.
One great advantage of the sandbox is we can still communicate even when Applianceville "proper" is down.
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Post# 22007-9/13/2002-17:05 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Were Up (I Think) (IF YOU CANNOT LOG IN)
MESSAGE: I see quite a few password files that got corrupted. If you cannot login email me (unimatic1140@yahoo.com) with your password and I will fix them.
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Post# 22008-9/13/2002-19:36 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: Robert! Thanks for all your hard work!
MESSAGE: Robert,
That sounded like a task for you to get this up and running again.
Just wanted to say a BIG THANKS for all the hard work that you put into this after you got home!
I feel lost when I can't see everyone's chats!
Have a great weekend!
Brent
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Post# 22009-9/13/2002-21:59 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Todays POD (Kenmore ad copy)
MESSAGE: Did anyone notice that the copy stated the dryer had a full-width load-a-door while the actual picture showed the smaller plug-door style?
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Post# 22010-9/13/2002-22:44 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: YAY
MESSAGE: A big Yay for your work Robert. Take a look at this billboard sign in Vancouver, it says it all. Hope the link works.
Another post to follow about a special finished project.
Eddy
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/ms_gyrator4/vwp?.dir=/51+GE+automatic+washer&.src=ph&.dnm=a+billboard+sign+in+Van.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/ms_gyrator4/lst%3f%26.dir=/51%2bGE%2bautomatic%2bwasher%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 22011-9/13/2002-22:54 ||| Eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: 1951 GE
MESSAGE: Well, I can't believe it, but I've finally finished restoring the 51 GE washer. I uploaded the pictures to a new yahoo photo album. It's not the premium service, so I apologize for the small files. I am working on a narrative of what this machine needed, which is too much to list right now. The book is due out later. I actually did two loads in it today. It's way fun.
Eddy
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/ms_gyrator4/lst?.dir=/51+GE+automatic+washer&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/
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Post# 22012-9/13/2002-23:35 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: 1951 GE (And a Yay for you too!)
MESSAGE: Great pics! Congrats on the restore!
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Post# 22013-9/13/2002-00:20 ||| Mrcoffee (Flint, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Maytag portable fixed
MESSAGE: Well, I got a 4L-520 lawn mower belt from the local hardware store. It was a bit wide, but did not come off after a couple loads.
So, I suppose I'll put the back panel on and see if it lasts....
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Post# 22014-9/13/2002-00:23 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1951 GE
MESSAGE: This is just wonderful Ms Gyrator, I mean uh, Eddy! ;-) You did a beautiful job with the restoration, and what a lovely reward you now have to enjoy! Congratulations!
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Post# 22015-9/14/2002-07:25 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: 1951 GE (Great!)
MESSAGE: Eddy,
This is great - Best Of Luck
Peter
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Post# 22016-9/14/2002-08:54 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: JACKPOT!!!
MESSAGE: Well Friday the 13th has always been a lucky day for me fortunately. On the side of the road I found a Norge time line dryer free (not sure of the year), but in very good condition, could definately use repainting but the controls look good. I have no idea if it works or not. Secondly I stopped in at an appliance dealer whom I know a little more personally and he sent me to a friend of his who gave me a 1959 Whirlpool Washer, a Kemore? wringer washer (year?), and a 1945 GE frig. All in excellent condition. So once again I will rent a cargo van and pick them up next SAT. I will get pics and more details ASAP. I am so excited! YAY! Have a nice weekend everyone!!
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Post# 22017-9/14/2002-08:59 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: 1951 GE (Congrads......)
MESSAGE: very nice Eddy !!.........
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Post# 22018-9/14/2002-09:55 ||| jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: JACKPOT!!!
MESSAGE: Greg that is good news! I am so happy for you, yes indeed, I feel an appliance convention at in your area. Enjoy! Don
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Post# 22019-9/14/2002-10:52 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: 1951 GE
MESSAGE: Eddy, awesome to say the least. Outstanding work. I'm impressed. And thanks for the progress pics.
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Post# 22020-9/14/2002-10:55 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: JACKPOT!!!
MESSAGE: Greg, you collection is just growing by leaps and bounds. You're well on your way bud. And I look forward to pics after next weekend's pickup!!!!!
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Post# 22021-9/14/2002-11:01 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT: Classic Dreaming
MESSAGE: I had the most wonderful dream last night. I don't know why, but I dreamed about an old house I used to rent in Berkeley. Somehow I wound up living there again, but this time the former owner had populated the basement with a wide variety of vintage appliances. But not your usual fare. For example, there was a combination vintage refrigerator/clothes washer! This had a wash action that incorporated plastic briquettes (kind of like those fake plastic ice cubes, but sized and shaped like charcoal)! LOL! There was even an old Frigidaire washer, but since this was a dream it didn't have a pulsator, it was more like a *gasp* Calypso wash action. Go figure ;-) There were many other white enameled vintage appliances in this basement, but their exact description now eludes me.
Naturally, I awoke feeling a loss at having to leave this fantasy world, but perhaps it was some sort of compensation for having missed two classic appliance conventions in a row.
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Post# 22022-9/14/2002-11:40 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: JACKPOT!!!
MESSAGE: This is wonderful Greg! And here I had completely forgotten it was Friday the 13th, til you mentioned it!
Will look forward to seeing pictures of your finds. My great aunt had an (RCA) Whirlpool from right about then, and I'm interested to see if it's anything like hers. If so, it will be the only other one I have seen!
Hope the Norge dryer works too! Enjoy!
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Post# 22023-9/14/2002-12:49 ||| Eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: 1951 GE (tranny)
MESSAGE: Thanks everyone, nice that I can share this with you all. Even though the pictures are small Bob, I know you saw Robert's machine close up and mine is exactly the same model. The most difficult part of the restore was the tranny rebuild. It had frozen up because of sitting with alot of water inside. Fortunately, some parts were still available through Larry at Modern and Robert actually had the hub and bottom seals it needed. A big thanks to him, or this tranny would have never come back to life.
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Post# 22024-9/14/2002-12:54 ||| Smokeyjoe (COLUMBUS,OH)
SUBJECT: NEED HELP
MESSAGE: LOOKING FOR INFO ON ICECREAM FREEZER MANUFACTURED BY GENERAL MOTORS FOR FRIGIDAIRE MODLE # ICL-4S
NO IDEA ON DATE MANUFACTURED
ANY INFO IS GREATLY APPRECIATED
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Post# 22025-9/14/2002-15:39 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: JACKPOT!!!
MESSAGE: Congratualtions Greg! Sounds like your collection is growing pretty fast! Looking forward to seeing some pictures.
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Post# 22026-9/14/2002-15:40 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: YAY
MESSAGE: YAY is right, thanks Eddy.
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Post# 22027-9/14/2002-15:46 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1951 GE (What a Wonderful Washer!)
MESSAGE: Wow Eddy, that was a great restore job! I'm so glad I had some parts for your new GE tucked away in my parts closet. Was it difficult to figure out which wires to tie the electric pump wires into, so it would only run during spin?
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Post# 22028-9/14/2002-16:45 ||| Eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: 1951 GE (wiring the pump)
MESSAGE: Thanks Robert, you were a huge help and inspiration for me !!
What I did with the pump was hook up the white neutral wire to the incoming neutral. Then, I carefully exposed a bit of each wire leading to the motor by peeling back some of the rubber insulating covers that protect the connectors. I took the black wire from the pump, set the machine to spin, then touched each wire to see if it energized the pump. Both the red and blue wires ran the pump (the other 2 wires are simply neutral and ground). Now, after bypassing the pressure switch, I tested it on agitate which reverses the motor. Sure enough, touching the blue wire ran the pump but touching the red wire did not. Yay, we found the wire we needed ! I tapped into this line, made sure everything was insulated correctly, and voila the pump only comes on during the spin.
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Post# 22029-9/14/2002-20:43 ||| Bendixman (New York)
SUBJECT: 1943-44 Bendix Deluxe Washer
MESSAGE: Just recently made my 1st purchase of a 1943-44 Bendix washer. The booklet it came with gives suggestions for care of YOUR BENDIX AUTOMATIC during WARTIME. It is in perfect looking condition and operating condition except for 2 items. The timer works when advanced maually and the water switch made by Dole mfg does not shut off when the machine is full and the float reaches it's full capacity. Can anyone help tell me where I can locate either a repair manual for this machine or where I might be able to buy parts. Thanks,
Bruce
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Post# 22030-9/14/2002-21:46 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1943-44 Bendix Deluxe Washer (Another Bendix!)
MESSAGE: Hi Bruce, congratulations on your new vintage washer. That is a wonderful machine. I do have a repair manual for it, if there is a certain section you need scanned just let me know.
As for the timer, the timer motor has died. This is the most common problem in vintage washing machines. You can get a rebuilt timer for the machine at Midwest Timer Service in Benton Harbor Michigan. As for the water valve you might have to replace it with a generic one, but check with Midwest Timer Service because they used to sell rebuilt water valves too. I don't have their phone number at home, but I do have it at work which I can get on monday for you.
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Post# 22031-9/14/2002-22:20 ||| Bendixman (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: 1943-44 Bendix Deluxe Washer (1943-44 Bendix)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the offer of the repair manual. I don't know what could go wrong with the machine but at least I will be able to repair it. Just let me know the cost of reproducing the manual it's no problem. Also thanks for the name of the parts place. I would appreciate it if you could find the number or atleast an address so that I can find it through the internet. Just one more thing I think the pictures of all of your machines are GREAT. I got such joy about seeing the past and also knowing others are out there who have the same interests. Would love to come to one of your conventions.
Bruce
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Post# 22032-9/14/2002-22:20 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: 1943-44 Bendix Deluxe Washer (Bendix!)
MESSAGE: Hi Bruce
Welcome to the club. Best of Luck getting the Bendix working.
Bendix was always one of my favorate washers.
I also live in New York - nice to have another New York member.
Peter
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Post# 22033-9/14/2002-22:25 ||| zzzuni (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1943-44 Bendix Deluxe Washer (1943-44 Bendix)
MESSAGE: Hi Bruce, thanks for your kind word about my collection, its so much fun to have. You just missed that last convention but the next will be in a year or so.
I will email you the # of Midwest Timer Service although I'm sure another member will have the number posted before I get back to the office on Monday. MTS isn't on the internet as far as I can tell.
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Post# 22034-9/14/2002-22:31 ||| zzzuni (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1943-44 Bendix Deluxe Washer (zzzuni)
MESSAGE: By the way everyone ZZZUNI is the login name I'm going to use when I programming the server for coding and testing. I forgot to log back in as Unimatic1140 on that last post, so if you see ZZZUNI its just little old me.
Also over the course of the next few weeks you might see some test posts popping in. I will try to delete them when I'm through so you also might find post #'s that are missing. I'm writing some new code to add new features that I've been thinking about for a while. More to come on that later.
Remember, after the server crash on Friday if you are getting a message saying that your password is incorrect I need to restore your password file. Email me with your user name and whatever new password you would like to use.
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Post# 22035-9/14/2002-22:35 ||| zzzuni (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
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Post# 22036-9/14/2002-23:13 ||| zzzuni (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: The Following Is A Test
MESSAGE: This is a test of comments to be posted. Please disregard this message.
Also over the course of the next few weeks you might see some test posts popping in. I will try to delete them when I'm through so you also might find post #'s that are missing. I'm writing some new code to add new features that I've been thinking about for a while. More to come on that later.
Remember, after the server crash on Friday if you are getting a message saying that your password is incorrect I need to restore your password file. Email me with your user name and whatever new password you would like to use.
LINK: http://www.frigidaire.com
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Post# 22037-9/14/2002-23:14 ||| zzzuni (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: The Following Is A Test
MESSAGE: This is a test of comments to be posted. Please disregard this message.
Also over the course of the next few weeks you might see some test posts popping in. I will try to delete them when I'm through so you also might find post #'s that are missing. I'm writing some new code to add new features that I've been thinking about for a while. More to come on that later.
Remember, after the server crash on Friday if you are getting a message saying that your password is incorrect I need to restore your password file. Email me with your user name and whatever new password you would like to use.
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Post# 22038-9/14/2002-00:13 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1943-44 Bendix Deluxe Washer
MESSAGE: Welcome Bendixman! Enjoy your new Bendix, and I hope all will be well once you are able to take care of those things. This must be an especially rare one, as I am betting they did not make a great deal of machines during the war. Have a great weekend!
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Post# 22039-9/15/2002-03:46 ||| Mooney6au (Sydney, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: 1951 GE (terrific restoration)
MESSAGE: Eddy,
Thanks for sharing what must have been a lot of patient work. I envy you guys who can do this work. Just out of interst what is the agitator stroke and rate and how fast does it spin?
Well done.
Greg
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Post# 22040-9/15/2002-07:08 ||| westie2 (arkansas)
SUBJECT: POD
MESSAGE: I too have always liked old washers anykind. But the picture today have never seen a round Frigidaire WOW. Back in the late 40's through the 50's we had a cousin that had an appliance shop sold washers, dryers, radios, tv's. Made a deal with my mother and all my aunts and grandmothers to pick out an automatic he would install and if they demostrated and sold at least 3 was free to them. I can remember all sorts of washers at different aunts. Ours was a Westinghouse front load lots of memories of watching it tumble and spin.
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Post# 22041-9/15/2002-08:05 ||| Bendixman (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: 1943-44 Bendix Deluxe Washer (1943-44 Bendix)
MESSAGE: Peter,
Thanks for the warm welcome. Where in NY do you live. I am on L.I. Also check out ebay. There is a Bendix standard somewhere between 1938-45 the seller wants $1,000 for it and it is located up in Monticello the Catskills.What machines do you have??
Bruce
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Post# 22042-9/15/2002-08:27 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: Thanks everyone.....
MESSAGE: A big part of the personal excitement when you find some of these wonderful old appliances is being able to share that excitement with others who share and appreciate the same interest. Thanks for your comments. I look forward to sharing pics soon........-GregM
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Post# 22043-9/15/2002-08:36 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (round Frigidaire washer)
MESSAGE: The reason you never saw this very cool round Frigidaire washer is it was made by GM-Holden-Frigidaire in Australia. The semi-automatic was never produced in North America. One of our Down-Under members has this beauty in his collection. Check this out...
LINK: http://uk.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gizmo_au63/lst?.dir=/Frigidaire+WM11&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/
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Post# 22044-9/15/2002-08:40 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1943-44 Bendix Deluxe Washer (1943-44 Bendix)
MESSAGE: Hmmm, another interesting auction to watch. I just email'd the seller to let him know that the model he has is the postwar version, 1947-1952. The machine looks like its in pretty good shape.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2054247581
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Post# 22045-9/15/2002-09:18 ||| Bendixman (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: 1943-44 Bendix Deluxe Washer (1943-44 Bendix)
MESSAGE: Liked the Bendix??? But what about the price??? Emailed the seller the other day because he had a manual up for auction and I thought he also might know where I could get replacement parts, but he didn't. For us NY'ers usually upstate NY in the older communities can you find vintage appliances.
Bruce
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Post# 22046-9/15/2002-10:16 ||| westie (Siloam Springs, Arkansas)
SUBJECT: RE: 1943-44 Bendix Deluxe Washer (1947 to 1952 Bendix)
MESSAGE: This is like the first one of aunts had had lots of problems and in 1956 she got a Norge.
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Post# 22047-9/15/2002-10:39 ||| Bendixman (New York)
SUBJECT: Thor Automagic
MESSAGE: Wondering if there are still Thor Automagics still out there and working. My mom had one of there too and I don't know what happened to it. She mainly used it to do dishes.
Bruce
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Post# 22048-9/15/2002-11:44 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: 1951 GE
MESSAGE: Hi Eddy
Fantastic! That baby is a beauty and you did a great job on her. Congratulations!
Rich
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Post# 22049-9/15/2002-12:01 ||| Rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Thor Automagic (Thor Automagic)
MESSAGE: Hi Bruce. I am originally from Bayside, Queens, where I too grew up with a Thor Automagic. My Mom only used it for washing clothes. I currently live in Palm Springs, California and own a boring 5 year old Maytag. I am thinking about making room in my garage for a few vintage machines that I could connect and use for washing clothes. Of course, a Thor is on my wish list of vintage machines I would like to acquire.
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Post# 22050-9/15/2002-15:22 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: Preway 180 Gas Dishwasher
MESSAGE: Courtesy of SteveD!
LINK: http://users.wcnet.net/dadoes/preway180.jpg
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Post# 22051-9/15/2002-17:01 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: 1951 GE
MESSAGE: Thanks Rich, it was worth the work. Have you ever come across a magazine ad for this model?
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Post# 22052-9/15/2002-17:08 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: 1951 GE (terrific restoration)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg, I don't have exact numbers here, but agitation appears to be around 52 strokes per min at 160 degrees. The spin speed is a bit faster than most belt drive GE's, approaching 700 rpm. This is due to the 2 pulley system they used and the fact that the spin pulley has a smaller diameter than ones that were produced later.
Glenn has a great clip of Robert's 51 GE in action, mine operates identically.
LINK: http://users.wcnet.net/dadoes/minne/Friday/Video/063_Topless%20GE%20Action.MPG
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Post# 22053-9/15/2002-17:11 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: 1951 GE (And a Yay for you too!)
MESSAGE: Thanks Glenn, I wish I could do some video magic like you. I enjoyed all those clips again from last year's convention.
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Post# 22054-9/15/2002-18:09 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: POD
MESSAGE: What a cool washer! I've never seen one like it. Can anyone give details. How it filled, drained etc. Very neat. Really love this site
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Post# 22055-9/15/2002-20:14 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: 1943-44 Bendix Deluxe Washer (New York!)
MESSAGE: Hi Bruce - I live in Westchester Co - I am not a collector but I have a Equator combo - I live in a coop. Lets chat some time. We had a Great convention last month in Maryland - I am sorry you didnt join before the convention - oh well next time
my email is Peteski50@aol.com
Send me yours if it's ok
Thanks,
Peter
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Post# 22056-9/15/2002-20:22 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Thor Automagic (Thor Automagic )
MESSAGE: That is such a interesting looking machine
I would love to see one work
Peter
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Post# 22057-9/15/2002-20:27 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Preway 180 Gas Dishwasher (Preway )
MESSAGE: Glenn
Thanks again for the cd - this looks like the same DW on the beverly hillbillies and John L had one of these babies in his shed - at least he did 2 years ago.
Peter
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Post# 22058-9/15/2002-20:40 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Thanks everyone.....
MESSAGE: Well, Greg - congrats are the order of the day. Particularly thrilling is the Norge Time Line dryer. I certainly hope it works for you.
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Post# 22059-9/15/2002-21:14 ||| Bendixman (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: 1943-44 Bendix Deluxe Washer (1943-44 Bendix)
MESSAGE: Pete,
Would be great to hear from you. My email address is:
Popshot51bwc@netscape.net. It would be real nice to talk to others who enjoy vintage appliances. You mentioned that you have an equator on your coop. I have a Bendix (thats what the tag says) Purchased it about 4 years ago for my parents who moved into a coop in Brooklyn and really couldn't have a washer. I removed their dishwasher (that they really didn't use) and put in this washer/dryer combo that requires no venting it has a condenser. My mom passed away almost 3 years ago and my dad sold the coop and moved in with my sister and I became the owner of another washer. I really haven't used it much because it holds only about 8-9 lbs. but it does work great. Just have to get used to the dry cycle and the clothes comming out a little steamy.
Get back to me when you can and lets chat.
Bruce
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Post# 22060-9/16/2002-08:37 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: 1950 Blackstone Washer Ad
MESSAGE: Hello all,
Here is a link to a 1950 Blackstone Washer Ad on Ebay.
Look at the Dryer. It is like the one that was at John's Warehouse. The washer looks older than that one we saw though.
Man...I wish I could get that booklet in the ad about "THE TRUTH ABOUT WASHERS AND DRYERS!" I bet that it was an eye-opener.
Brent
LINK: http://cgi.aol.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=713594553
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Post# 22061-9/16/2002-09:28 ||| Rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Thor Automagic (Thor Automagic)
MESSAGE: Hi Peter. I am originally from Bayside, Queens where I grew up but now live in Palm Springs, California. My Mom had a Thor Automagic and that is where I got my start on washing machines. When I was little, my Mom knew that one way to keep me quiet and occupied was to do a load of laundry in the Thor. We never used it as a dishwasher nor did we have the dishwasher tub. If a dishwasher tub came with the machine when my parents purchased it, I never saw it. First, my mom would connect water hose to the kitchen sink. The drain hose was always at the edge of the kitchen sink. By turning on the kitchen faucet, you regulated the temperature of the water going into the machine. After the tub began to fill, my mom would throw in some Tide powder and turn on the agitator to mix it up for a moment. Then the agitator was turned off and the clothes were then placed inside the tub as the water was filling up the tub. Then the water was turned off and the crank was turned to "agitate". After 10 or 15 minutes, my mom would turn the crank to off, then to spin. After a few minutes, the crank was turned to off and the faucet turned on so that the rinse water could enter the tub. When the tub was full of water, the crank was turned to agitate but the water was kept on and running into the tub for an overflow rinse. Then the water was turned off and the crank turned again to spin for 5 minutes or so, and the load was done.
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Post# 22062-9/16/2002-09:32 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Frigidaire Semi-Automatic)
MESSAGE: That was an Australian semi-automatic washer. Since it's a semi-automatic its filled manually by turning on the faucet. It drains like most other solid tub washers by spinning the water over the top of the tub, into the outer tub where it's pumped out.
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Post# 22063-9/16/2002-09:34 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1943-44 Bendix Deluxe Washer (1-800-253-7260)
MESSAGE: Hi Bruce, the phone number for Midwest Timer Service is 1-800-253-7260.
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Post# 22064-9/16/2002-09:41 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1950 Blackstone Washer Ad (Blackstone Models)
MESSAGE: Very fun Ad! Brent that Blackstone Automatic is Model 150. It was brand new in 1950 and the dryer is the match to the dryer you saw at the museum. Actually I found that drier in an alley in St. Paul and it eventually made its way to Washington. Its fun to play musical appliances!
The First Blackstone automatic was the Model #50, it was test marketed in '41 before the war, after the war the model #50A came out which was very similar to the Model #50. In 1950 they introduced the Model #150. Then in 53 came the Model #250 and in 1955 came the Model #350, the model that you saw at the museum.
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Post# 22065-9/16/2002-10:20 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Turquoise Maytag dryer in CA
MESSAGE: Another beauty in California...
-ph
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2054628824
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Post# 22066-9/16/2002-13:31 ||| Bendixman (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: 1943-44 Bendix Deluxe Washer (1943-44 Bendix)
MESSAGE: Robert, Thanks for the telephone #, i'm going to start the legwork and get the timer repaired.
Best, Bruce
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Post# 22067-9/16/2002-14:01 ||| dalangdon (Seattle, WA)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire Flair Rotisserie
MESSAGE: Hey Everybody,
In my ongoing effort to have the perfect flair, I am now trying to find out information about the rotisserie attchment. The owner's manual is frustratingly vague about this - it says it's available "at extra charge for installation" (duh) Does anyone out there know about the rotisserie, and how it worked? did it have to be hard wired?, or was it an add-on?
Thanks!
dan
LINK: http://www.danlangdon.com/flair.htm
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Post# 22068-9/16/2002-14:14 ||| dalangdon (Seattle, WA)
SUBJECT: Superba Dishwasher
MESSAGE: Almost forgot - found a lovely beige-ish KitchenAid "Superba" dishwasher over the weekend. It features all push-button control, (divided into "Daily" and "Party" categories) Works like a charm, but there's no way to not use the heater on the dryer cycle, which I'm sure will soon be reflected on the electric bills ;-)
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Post# 22069-9/16/2002-15:45 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Flair Rotisserie
MESSAGE: Dan, I have always thought of you as having the perfect Flair. (Oh sorry, you were talking about your range). ;-)
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Post# 22070-9/16/2002-15:46 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Superba Dishwasher
MESSAGE: ...but you will have dry dishes! ;-)
I think the model you're talking about was made in the late 60s and early 70s. Does a great job, but I think it uses about 15 gallons per cycle, whereas today's machines typically use 6-8.
Great for your vintage pad though! :)
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Post# 22071-9/16/2002-16:28 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Superba Dishwasher
MESSAGE: I always use heated dry. Water heating takes more electric than heated dry. Of course, you may have gas water heating.
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Post# 22072-9/16/2002-18:32 ||| dalangdon (Seattle, WA)
SUBJECT: RE: Superba Dishwasher (water use)
MESSAGE: This thing, if I were to use the "daily" setting, would use billions of gallons of water. But I prefer to use the "party" setting, as it uses 1/3 of the water and still gets everything clean. Plus, it allows me to say that everyday at my house is a party ;-)
While it technically does not fit into my Eve of the Kennedy Assassination decor, it LOOKS like something out of 1962, so I think I'll let it slide.
If the dryer heater drives me to the poor house, I'll just figure a way to unhook it and go with the fan.
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Post# 22073-9/16/2002-19:23 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Jimmy Visits Omaha
MESSAGE: Jimmy (filterflo) came to Omaha Thursday evening to pick up his machines from our South Dakota farm trip back in May and brought some fun stuff he found for Don (Jetaction) and I in Ohio. We had a busy and fun filled weekend which started with unloading a 1964 Kenmore Visi-Matic wringer washer. We had to free the motor switch and then started washing. What fun that wringer is, I have never used one before so it was quite and experience. I don't think I will be doing all my washing with this machine, but it is great for washing really dirty and hard to handle items as the tub is absolutely huge and holds a ton of washing. In trade for a Kelvinator washer I found in Iowa, Jimmy brought me a wonderful Frigidaire WV-65 he found in a trash pile while driving down the street back home. He litterally took it out of the pick-up guy's hands and rescued it from the krusher. Since he already has a 55 set of his own, he brought it to trade for something he's wanted for a long time - the Kelvinator washer. Jimmy spent most of Friday working on his 56 Philco washer and dryer set and was able to get them both running - I came home from work Friday to find the 56 Philco washer agitating with water even! There's still a long way to go, but at least it does run! Saturday, we hit the estate sales and actually were lucky to find a few things we were excited about. I found two Oster "beehive" blenders that I combined into one good one and a few other miscellaneous things. Jimmy runs estate sales back home and was shell-shocked at the prices here. Saturday night we had dinner and a wash-in with a few of my friends. Sunday we headed for the Early, Iowa store where I'd found my 55 Imperial Filtrator and the Kelvinator washers. The store owner had done a little cleaning of the warehouse and we were able to get the Kelvinators we wanted and Jimmy also got a Maytag A3MP washer to match his Maytag condenser dryer back home. We had such a wonderful time and lots of laughs while working on machines and moving what seemed an endless stream of washers and dryers. Jimmy has been working on vintage cars and trucks for years so I also picked up a few good restoration tips to use on washers and learned a lot. We spent lots of time in the garage working and had beautiful weather every day - what a great appliance weekend!! Thank you again Jimmy for everything and the great time - it was a pleasure having you here and I hope we can get together soon in Ohio!
Hope everyone's weekend was great - it sounds like there were some good finds! Here are some pictures, enjoy!!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst?.dir=/Jimmy%27s+Omaha+Visit+Sept+2002&.src=ph&.view=t
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Post# 22074-9/16/2002-19:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1950 Blackstone Washer Ad (Blackstone Models)
MESSAGE: Jimmy found a beautiful ad from 1940 in an antique store along the way for the very first model Blackstone, which may not have even been released yet. I wish I'd scanned it before he took it home!
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Post# 22075-9/16/2002-20:09 ||| Jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Jimmy Visits Omaha
MESSAGE: Wow what fun you guys had! Sounds like a great weekend, and I am excited to get my washer from Omaha. Thanks to Jimmy for hauling it a bit closer to me. The wringer looks fun, I have a Maytag wringer, and maybe it is time to fire it up. It is really quick, but you sure do work hard at laundry!
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Post# 22076-9/16/2002-20:30 ||| Imperial70 (Mass)
SUBJECT: Imperial 70 Washer
MESSAGE: I bought a Whirlpool Imperial 70 Washer in 1986. That was the best washer I ever owned. The Super Surgilator(tm) agitator was great with big loads (especially with the Superwash cycle) and it was great with "dry clean only" because of the design of the bottom of the agitator gently rocked clothes on the Knit Gentle cycle. No wrinkling, my clothes lasted forever.
The machine would have too. But someone put a large sleeping bag in the washer, stripped the agitator shaft and we couldn't get the stripped plastic out of the splines on the shaft.
(Sorry for the run on sentences but I get emotional over that)
In any event I have a 97 kenmore that does an alright wash but it eats everything. Can't do delicates in it (even though it is two speeds). The high speed wash causes the lights in the house to pulsate too!
What I would do if I could find that Imperial 70 washer again.
I would have put a new shaft had I known...
pc
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Post# 22077-9/16/2002-20:31 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Jimmy Visits Omaha (Jimmy Visits Omaha )
MESSAGE: wow - this is great 2 Kelvi's and a 1/18 - this was a real hot weekend for you guys. Enjoy.
Peter
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Post# 22078-9/16/2002-21:21 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Jimmy Visits Omaha (What fun!!)
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg for sharing all the fun you and Jimmy had this past weekend. The pictures were great. Jimmy it looks like you are sure going to be busy. Greg I love that Kenmore Wringer, just like the one that my grandma had, but alas I was never aloud to use it. Terry
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Post# 22079-9/16/2002-21:24 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Jimmy Visits Omaha (great photos !!)
MESSAGE: glad you guys had such a great time :) .............
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Post# 22080-9/16/2002-21:38 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1950 Blackstone Washer Ad (I need the truth!)
MESSAGE: Oh Brent!! I need the Truth about automagic washers!! I bet that book could explain alot!!
We must keep our eyes out for it on ebay.
Come on up and try out my Blackstone it purrrrs along great!
jon
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Post# 22081-9/16/2002-21:41 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Jimmy Visits Omaha (Nice Wash In!!)
MESSAGE: Wow what a nice wash in you guys had!! I can't believe Jimmy got any appliance working right off the farm! That is some kind of record! I wonder if a '56 Philco is more or less flappy than a 1960 model? Would it turn the clothes over more or less?? Anybody in applianceville have any experience with them??
Jetcone
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Post# 22082-9/16/2002-21:55 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: 1970's Hotpoint on ebay
MESSAGE: Hey you 70's nuts there is a stored Hotpoint in Harvest Gold on ebay. It looks to be in good cond.\
Heres the link:
Cheers Jetcone
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2054513685
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Post# 22083-9/16/2002-22:10 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: 1951 GE (tranny)
MESSAGE: Thank you Eddy for your thoughtfulness concerning my sight. I'm truely touched. Bob
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Post# 22084-9/16/2002-22:17 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: 1943-44 Bendix Deluxe Washer
MESSAGE: Welcome Bruce. And I'm proud that you saved such avaluable piece of Bendix history. Bob
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Post# 22085-9/16/2002-22:19 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD
MESSAGE: Welcome westie2 to the club. An Arkansas citizen, we may just have to adopt you into the Texas contingent.
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Post# 22086-9/16/2002-22:32 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Preway 180 Gas Dishwasher
MESSAGE: Yup, that looks like one similar to the Hillbillies set kitchen.
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Post# 22087-9/16/2002-22:40 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Thor Automagic (Thor Automagic)
MESSAGE: Ross, thanks for posting your childhood memories of your mom doing laundry for you to keep you occupied.
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Post# 22088-9/16/2002-22:45 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Jimmy Visits Omaha (No Flapping!)
MESSAGE: There is no flapping in a '56, it's more of tug, pull and drag action by the agitator. The flapper didn't come about until 1959.
The '66 Philco/Ford washer was the last design of the "Blades of Water" so when he gets that up and washing it will be interesting to see how it compares with the earlier versions. (I think there were three flapper designs...still one more to go) The '60 Philco-Bendix Miss America I brought from the farm is the same design as Robert's '59.
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Post# 22089-9/16/2002-22:48 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1951 GE
MESSAGE: This took my breath away - thank you for the pictures Eddy! You did a wonderful job on this washer, it looks absolutely beautiful!
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Post# 22090-9/16/2002-22:48 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Superba Dishwasher
MESSAGE: Dan, my parents former neighbor still uses this dishwasher to this day in her kitchen. She's ALWAYS pushed cancel/drain after the end of the rinse cycle to stop the dry cycle. Another suggestion is to use the light soil cycle (under the party section) that shortens the dry cycle by 5 minutes. And one final suggesetion. push the plate warm button, which is only about 13 minutes of dry time.
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Post# 22091-9/16/2002-22:54 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Superba Dishwasher
MESSAGE: Beginning with the 18 series the heater wattage was lowered from 1100 to 800, a savings of .03 per cycle at .10 per kwh during the 22 minute dry cycle. If you can obtain the part, you could also save $$ that way.
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Post# 22092-9/16/2002-22:56 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Turquoise Maytag dryer in CA (turquoise lost....)
MESSAGE: This is the exact dryer that I had, but my light bulb worked ;-) If I weren't so tired, I would lift my leg and kick myself (again) for getting rid of this Maytag set!
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Post# 22093-9/16/2002-22:57 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Superba Dishwasher
MESSAGE: I have on a few occasions run the dry cycle (full or partial) a second time, if there is a lot of plastic in the load.
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Post# 22094-9/16/2002-22:59 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Preway 180 Gas Dishwasher
MESSAGE: Thanks Glenn - it was interesting to see this - I wonder how the washing performance was with those arms on the side of the tank like that, seems like it would limit loading somewhat.
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Post# 22095-9/16/2002-23:02 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Thanks everyone..... (GregM's finds)
MESSAGE: Can't wait to see pictures of your new (and previous) appliance finds congrats on the new ones!
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Post# 22096-9/16/2002-23:03 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag portable fixed
MESSAGE: The orginal part (belt) is still available through Maytag, did you have trouble locating it? I had to order mine through Sunberg Parts, but it was still available a year ago.
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Post# 22097-9/16/2002-23:06 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Preway 180 Gas Dishwasher
MESSAGE: It's hard to see in the scan, but glasses appear to be loaded like in a Frigidaire spray-tube, but turned the other direction, so they face toward the outside. The rack description makes reference to "3 hook-on side racks."
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Post# 22098-9/16/2002-23:27 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Jimmy Visits Omaha
MESSAGE: It looks like y'all had a lot of fun.
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Post# 22099-9/16/2002-23:30 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Jimmy Visits Omaha (Wow!)
MESSAGE: Thanks for posting the pictures, Greg, and glad you guys had such a fun weekend. Cool wringer washer. I love those Roto-Swirls they put in wringer machines with the high vanes. I didn't realize Jimmy had a 55 Frigidaire Imperial set (gasp)!!! They are gorgeous!! My favorite laundry pair of all time!! Jimmy....did you just get them recently? How do they run? You are amazing... getting those machines working so quickly! I like a guy who can handle tools!
Rich
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Post# 22100-9/16/2002-23:43 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Jimmy Visits Omaha (Wow!)
MESSAGE: Just call him Jimmy the toolman Taylor LOL
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Post# 22101-9/16/2002-23:55 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Free to good home - Sunny Yellow 1960 WP Dryer
MESSAGE: Something has to go with the recent arrivals so I must give up the Whirlpool dryer. It is a 1960 Imperial model and is in exceptional condition as found (cleaned and oiled) at an estate sale two years ago. The fan/bearing assembly needs some work as it is rather loud.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Collection+Photos&.src=ph&.dnm=RCA+WP+Dryer+1960.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Collection%2bPhotos%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 22102-9/16/2002-00:02 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: There's more in Iowa to be had!
MESSAGE: There are still more treasures to be had in the Iowa store/warehouse if anyone is interested. I posted some pictures from my first trip there in May so you can see what is there (sans Kelvinators) - some neat things are still there. There is a Frigidaire rollermatic Custom Deluxe washer, several Frigidaire dryers including a 1955 Filtrator, lots of Maytags with lighted panels circa early 60's and some earlier washers including a 1955 Maytag (amp style) and others. There are many Hoover and Maytag portables, plus some still new in the boxes.
You can contact the owner if you are interested in anything - Dick Sanders, Sanders Hardware in Early Iowa 712-273-5281.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst?.dir=/June+2002+Iowa+Hunting&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/
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Post# 22103-9/17/2002-06:16 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: There's more in Iowa to be had! (What? No Maytag Combos?)
MESSAGE: It looks like you guys had so much fun! Man, you also worked your tails off!
I think that it is wild that out off all of the stuff that this guy has in Iowa, that he did not have any Combo W/D's! (of any kind) That is something to be said about how rare they are becoming. I figured that with all of the Maytag stuff that he had, he would have had at least 1 Maytag Combo! He looked like he really liked Maytag stuff.
I love looking at those pictures. Also the new pictures of Jimmy determined to get that stuff up and running! He looked very happy in the pictures!
Thanks Greg and Jimmy!
Looks like your collection is starting to grow! hehe
Brent
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Post# 22104-9/17/2002-06:33 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Preway 180 Gas Dishwasher (Did NORGE ever sell this version with NORGE on front instead of Preway?)
MESSAGE: Hello all,
The reason that I am asking this is because one of my childhood friends had a dishwasher that sounds just like this Preway. The difference is that it had NORGE on the front in big letters. I remember it loaded the glasses kinda sideways, and you had to get them in just right of they would fall on the sides. It had spray arms on the left and right. I also remember that it was gas water heating for the wash and like 2 of the rinses. I waited to post this because I wanted to get in touch with him and ask. And he confirmed that yes it was a gas dishwasher as I remembered. He said that his dad replaced it in the early 80's because the burner rusted out, and the tub was leaking.
Am I dreaming? I remember that this thing was loud! They would run it about 3 times a day because there was 6 kids. I would go over after each meal and "help" them load the dishwasher, and ask them if I could go ahead and run it. That seems to be so funny now thinking back. I am sure that they thought this is great that this kid comes over and helps with the chores. I would say that I would do it so that my friend could get "his" chores done, and come out and play. I would help several people in my neighborhood do "chores" so that I could use either washers or dryers or etc... I can remember my mom getting really mad because one of the mothers told her that I always help her around the house. I did not understand why she was so upset, since I would also do my chores around our house.
Brent
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Post# 22105-9/17/2002-07:17 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Preway 180 Gas Dishwasher (Did NORGE ever sell this version with NORGE on front instead of Preway?)
MESSAGE: Brent, I'm so glad to know someone else was so "helpful" with the neighborhood chores of laundry and dishes just so one could play with all the neat stuff people had LOL. But I also helped around our house too. But yes, my Mom complained too, but it was because I was spending too much time at neighbors' houses.
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Post# 22106-9/17/2002-07:40 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: There's more in Iowa to be had! (What? No Maytag Combos?)
MESSAGE: The store owner has been in business since 1959 and has heard of the Maytag combo, but never seen one. They were probably more popular in the cities rather than rural areas, thus all the wringers!
My collection is overflowing! I'm still stunned by the 1955 set in the garage and hope to get it moved downstairs in the next couple of days - they are so beautiful! I need to rebuild the water valve and make some room for it in the "Frigidaire Gallery." Wanna buy a Calypso? Hee hee!
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Post# 22107-9/17/2002-07:43 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Preway 180 Gas Dishwasher (Did NORGE ever sell this version with NORGE on front instead of Preway?)
MESSAGE: Me too! I would help a neighbor with her washing in her Hoover washer and dryer as I loved playing with that cute washer. I would imagine they thought it was still percieved as "women's work" thus not appropriate for a young boy to be doing when he should be out obtaining football injuries!
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Post# 22108-9/17/2002-07:58 ||| Brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: There's more in Iowa to be had! (1955 Set. Did I understand your story correctly?)
MESSAGE: Greg,
That is an amazing set! Did Jimmy actually find this in the trash?! Or did I understand your post wrong?
That is amazing!
Can't wait to see it in your Gallery! They are beautiful!
Some guys have all the luck!
Brent
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Post# 22109-9/17/2002-08:01 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: Omaha Trip,
MESSAGE: Hi All Back from Omaha, waking up after a goods night sleep (I drove all the way back from Omaha to Akron Ohio in one day!) And now, waiting for my in my driveway is a van load of appliances! Thanks so much to Greg Nunn for being such a good host. We sure had a blast. The 1956 Philco set that I got is an agitator washer, I think of Dexter design. I got it working at Gregs, but it needs rubber parts and lots of cosmetics (maybe I should contact Richard Hudnut or Max Factor!) Im SO eager to work on my Kelvinator set. We got Gregs to work while in his garage (bad timer, Greg had another one and replaced it and the washer worked! Good pump and all)
I will take some pics today as I work on them, and hopefully show some progress.
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Post# 22110-9/17/2002-08:40 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: RE: There's more in Iowa to be had! (1955 Set. Did I understand your story correctly?)
MESSAGE: Brett, Yes I got the washer out of the trash in Barberton Ohio. ITs a VERY interesting story: I moved to a new house in April, new location, that Im not very familiar with yet. I had to make a run to the bank, so I jumped in my 1957 Rambler. I got lost on the way, and took a couple of wrong turns, and low and behold in the trash, at 9am, was a 1955 UNIMATIC! I flipped. But there is no way it would fit in my Rambler. I stopped and went up to the house and knocked, but no one answered. So, with the wheels turning in my head, I jumped back in the Rambler and sped home, about 10 min away, grabbed my appliance dolly and thru it in my van and raced back. Just as I was rounding the corner to the house, the trash truck was there and the guys had their hands on the washer, getting ready to pick it up and throw it in the truck!!!!! I started honking the horn and waving my hands (they really thought I was nuts) and got their attention.......and ran out of the van and told them I wanted the washer. They, or course were more than happy not to have to pick it up. So.......just as all this was happening the owner of the house came out....and I thought, OH OH, shes going to give me a hard time......BUT intstead, she was glad I was taking it. It saved her $15.00 pick up fee from the city. She went in and got her son, and he helped me load it.
I was on cloud nine to have gotten it and now you have.......The Rest Of the Story!!! Ha
PS Greg will give it a good home, and its now part of a matched set (you know how I love those sets), in Omaha.
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Post# 22111-9/17/2002-08:46 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1951 GE (Where on earth??)
MESSAGE: Hey Eddy NICE JOB!! She looks great. Aren't those tubs heavy!!
Where on earth did you find a new boot for that one?? and the drive block where did that turn up? On GE's that is always the stumbling "block" for me. Those drive blocks stick on the shaft and break. Can't wait to see it in person someday soon!
cheers from the east coast
jetcone
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Post# 22112-9/17/2002-08:46 ||| Brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: There's more in Iowa to be had! (What Timing!)
MESSAGE: Jimmy,
Just to think that if you did not get lost on your way to the bank.
Or if it would have been just 10 mins later.
That is the best example of "meant to be" that I have heard in a long time.
Brent
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Post# 22113-9/17/2002-08:49 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: There's more in Iowa to be had! (Cool story!)
MESSAGE: I love it when the poor machine is snapped right from the claws of the Krusher at the final moment. It seems to me alot of our machines appear that way to us, at the very last moment!
jet
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Post# 22114-9/17/2002-08:50 ||| Bendixman (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: 1943-44 Bendix Deluxe Washer (1943-44 Bendix)
MESSAGE: Bob,
Thanks for the warm welcome. Always loved the Bendix. It was on par with growing up with TV. Loved when it oversuds it looked like a volcano erupting. Got many smacks from my mom because I added additional soap (Duz) when no one was looking to bring the suds out of the soap chute and the little door would fly open.
Again thanks for the welcome.
Bruce
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Post# 22115-9/17/2002-09:59 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1970's Hotpoint on ebay
MESSAGE: It's just a GE under the hood...
-ph
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Post# 22116-9/17/2002-10:02 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Jimmy Visits Omaha
MESSAGE: Great pics from a great weekend! Where did the 55 Filtrator come from? I know Jimmiy was bringing the 55 Unimatic, but can't remember who had/brought the dryer? Can't wait to see the Philco Glamour washer up and running!
-ph
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Post# 22117-9/17/2002-10:20 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: Thanks to all of you
MESSAGE: I must say thanks to all that post here every day I log in sincerly enjoy the messages and how much fun it is to see other get so excited also Thank all of you for sharing pictures and video ... The Video's production oftens brings a tear to ny eye. Thanks for making my life fun again
I would be glad to host a southern wash in near charleston SC
Philippe
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Post# 22118-9/17/2002-13:52 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: I'm new
MESSAGE: hey guys. i can'tell u how thrilled and somewhat surprised i am to find this wonderful site. i thought i was about the only guy who was into vintage appliances. my favs are top & front loading automatic washers from latw 40's to early 60's. i also enjoy some window unit air conditoners from the same period.
i formerly had a 1955 GE filter-flo and a 1962 Lady Kenmore. I releuctantly parted with both a few years ago during a move because if no storage space. The GE had a transmission problem (no longer would spin). The Kenmore I passed on to a friend who is still enjoying it. It's fully operational. My dream is to acquire the space to begin a serious collection. but in the meantime it's nice to have discovered this site to read about the member's collections. And i LOVE the photos of everyone's machines. Please keep them coming. My earliest washer memory is of my mom's ABC-O-Matic. I also vividly recall an Aunt's Frigidaie (I think it was a 56 with the all-grey pulsator), and my next-door-neighbor's 1949 Maytag automatic with the red agitator and float. My favorites have always been the kenmore's from the 50's because of their multi-colored control dials and the famous wash-in-wear cycle with the cool-down function.
Thanks for having me!
Les
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Post# 22119-9/17/2002-13:55 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm new
MESSAGE: Greetings, Les, and welcome!
There are so many wonderful things to see and learn here, I'm sure you'll have a fabulous time.
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Post# 22120-9/17/2002-14:08 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm new (The washer museum videos)
MESSAGE: I'm having so much fun watching the videos at the museum section. They've brought back so many memories. I've especially enjoed the Norge time-line videos and the ABC-O-Matic videos. It's like being right there at the machines themselves. can'r wait till more videos are added.
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Post# 22121-9/17/2002-14:26 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Jimmy Visits Omaha (The Washies)
MESSAGE: How fun, great pictures you guys. Those Kelvinators look like there in great shape. Congratulations Jimmy on your first orbial agitation washer! If we held Applianceville award ceremonies, like "The Washies" the ABC-O-Matic's and Kelvinators would win "the most dramatic wash cycle" award hands-down.
Thanks for the pictures Greg!
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Post# 22122-9/17/2002-14:31 ||| Lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: GE filter flo
MESSAGE: I used to have a 1955 GE filter-flo that once belonged to my great aunt. It had a 10 pound capacity black tub (with white specs) and black three-finned straight vane agitator (activator as it was officially called) with an aqua colored top where the filter pan fit over. The control dial illuminated. Two cycles (normal and "short"). The dial had the matching aqua background with black letters for the normal cycle and red for the short cycle. The rubber trim surrounding the filter-flo spout was also aqua as was the trim on the back panel. There were three white controls on the left hand side of the panel. One for wash temp, one for rinse and one for water lever. This had no official setting. Once the washer reached the desired water lever you pushed down on the control and it started the agitator (unless of course you were doing a full load).
My question is, just before I finally donated the machine away, it no longer would go into a spin yet it still washed perfectly. The GE repairman said the transmission was bad and that GE no longer made parts since by this time the machine was at least 30 years old and GE had compeltely redesigned their drive trains by then. Could is have been fixed and what specifically within the transmission (clutch perhaps?) caused it to be too weak to spin?
One curious thing about the machine's operation. During the first spin on both the normal & short cycles the machine would cut off for a moment then resume spiinig again. What year did GE discontinue this and replace this "spin pause" with the cold water spray?
How I regret giving that machine away.
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Post# 22123-9/17/2002-14:38 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: There's more in Iowa to be had! (Saved In the Nick of Time)
MESSAGE: Yay, those kind of "Saved in the Nick of Time" appliance stories are very heartwarming.
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Post# 22124-9/17/2002-14:41 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm new (Welcome)
MESSAGE: Hi Les, welcome to our club, I'm so glad you found us. I bet, like the rest of us, you used to think you were "the only one"!
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Post# 22125-9/17/2002-14:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: GE filter flo (Suds-Kill Cycle)
MESSAGE: Well Les, it depends on what was wrong exactly with the GE tranny or clutch itself. Most likely the Clutch spring in the bottom of the tranny had broken. That can certainly be fixed, but you would have to find the right part, which now that you know us would have been a heck of a lot easier.
As for the pause during spin, this was called the "Suds-Kill Cycle". It was used on GE's until 1961 when they came out with the new perforated spin-basket design. My early 1951 GE as well as Eddy's GE does a suds kill and a spray rinse, by the mid 50's they stopped the spray rinse.
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Post# 22126-9/17/2002-15:00 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Unimatic and Filtrator Goes to Hollywood
MESSAGE: Sony pictures is picking up my WO-65/TR-60 Frigidaire washer and dryer pair, we've made all the arrangements for a two month rental. They are going to pick and return the machines directly to me.
The set is going to appear in the movie "Mona Lisa Smile", I can't wait to see my babies on the big screen! YAY.
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Post# 22127-9/17/2002-15:01 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Unimatic and Filtrator Goes to Hollywood (Oh I Forgot)
MESSAGE: This is the set...
LINK: http://www.classicappliances.com/TEMP/Frigidaire-set.jpg
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Post# 22128-9/17/2002-15:25 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Unimatic and Filtrator Goes to Hollywood (Frig in movie)
MESSAGE: That's excited your babies are going to be Hollywood stars. But I hope you told them to handle them with the utmost care or else you'd hunt them down and kill them!
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Post# 22129-9/17/2002-15:38 ||| EasyWhirldry (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: There's more in Iowa to be had! (Really!)
MESSAGE: Are there any extra kelvinator orbital agitator washers? I gotta get one!
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Post# 22130-9/17/2002-16:11 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: There's more in Iowa to be had!
MESSAGE: Greg do you think he may have old parts there or just machines? I wonder if he has any Hoover twinny parts there.
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Post# 22131-9/17/2002-16:27 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm new
MESSAGE: Welcome and enjoy! Sounds like you got to see all sorts of interesting machines in your childhood! Nice to be able to see so many of our old friends again today!
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Post# 22132-9/17/2002-16:33 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Unimatic and Filtrator Goes to Hollywood (where credit is due)
MESSAGE: I hope you have it in the agreement that you get named in the film credits -- "Classic GM Frigidaire Washer and Dryer courtesy of Mr. Robert U. Seger". I'll even stay to the very end of the movie to watch your name roll by!
-ph
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Post# 22133-9/17/2002-16:45 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Unimatic and Filtrator Goes to Hollywood (50's Frigidaires)
MESSAGE: Speaking of, I hope the museum will soon have some videos to download of 50's Frigies - especially the three-ringed multi-colored agitator models. I remember vividly my aunt's 56 (I think) with the all-grey agitator. Especially the infamous suds cakes and how all the clothes came out tied together. LOL. That's one of my favorite photos from unimatics pics.
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Post# 22134-9/17/2002-17:15 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Unimatic and Filtrator Goes to Hollywood
MESSAGE: Congrats, but also ewwwwww. Don't get me started on Sony Pictures . . .
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Post# 22135-9/17/2002-17:19 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1970's Hotpoint on ebay (Peter...)
MESSAGE: You will be slapped! Quickly too!
TO each their own, we may have a hotpointy in the crowd!
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Post# 22136-9/17/2002-17:40 ||| shawn (Waterford Ct)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm new
MESSAGE: Welcome Lesto, Hope you have as much fun as I do reading all the messages each day. Never knew there were so many people that liked old washer's Shawn.
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Post# 22137-9/17/2002-17:47 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: There's more in Iowa to be had! (55 Unimatic)
MESSAGE: Jimmy....you get an extra jewel in your crown for saving that 55 Unimatic! Yay! And congrats, Greg, you lucky son of a gun!
Rich
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Post# 22138-9/17/2002-18:10 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Jimmy Visits Omaha (Kelvy temp settings)
MESSAGE: What does "M+C" mean?
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Post# 22139-9/17/2002-18:23 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: Magtag, et al
MESSAGE: I was remembering my favorite washer of old and my Grandmother's Maytag TL popped up. I would really like to know what the large red button and "flapper" were used for on the lid. The color matched the agitator. I was to young to figure out how to trick the lid switch and could never figure out what those dohickies were for. Can someone help out with this?
Also, I've got a Maytag Model SG1000 with "Computer Touch Control" complete with manuals to sell Any interest?
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Post# 22140-9/17/2002-18:32 ||| EasyWhirldry (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Thank you Jetcone!
MESSAGE: I love these cool vintage and new manuals! Thank you so much!
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Post# 22141-9/17/2002-18:42 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Unimatic and Filtrator Goes to Hollywood (50's Frigidaires)
MESSAGE: Well this should keep you busy for a while....
LINK: http://www.classicappliances.com/WCI-58.htm
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Post# 22142-9/17/2002-18:47 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Jimmy Visits Omaha
MESSAGE: I got the 55 Filtrator from the same Iowa store we picked up the Kelvinators and the A3MP from this weekend. The filtrator was found and rescued from the "rubble" the first trip I made there. Other than a new cord and a coat of Jubiliee, it's in nearly perfect condition!
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Post# 22143-9/17/2002-18:49 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm new
MESSAGE: A big ABC-o-matic welcome to you! Glad you are enjoying the club and the pics and videos too - we are constantly adding more so stay tuned!
You should get in touch with the other Atlanta/Georgia memebers and plan a wash-in, Peter and Steve 1-18 have some wonderful machines.
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Post# 22144-9/17/2002-18:53 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Unimatic and Filtrator Goes to Hollywood
MESSAGE: Super cool - I'll have to tell all my friends to watch for your washer and dryer in the movie, they'll think I'm nuts, but then again, I am!!
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Post# 22145-9/17/2002-18:54 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: There's more in Iowa to be had! (Really!)
MESSAGE: Nope, sorry Jamie, all the Kelvinators are gone now. They will fortunately be preserved forever though!
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Post# 22146-9/17/2002-18:54 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Preway 180 Gas Dishwasher (Did NORGE ever sell this version with NORGE on front instead of Preway?)
MESSAGE: Yeah, probably right, but at least I had a reason for not playing sports. Besides, all my parents friends & neighbors let me "play" with anything I fancied. That's how I got my exposure to Frigidaire dishwashers & laundry plus everything else. And, they all loved it because I could analyze what was wrong with their stuff & aid them in buying new stuff when needbe.
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Post# 22147-9/17/2002-18:55 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: There's more in Iowa to be had!
MESSAGE: All of the Hoover washers in those pictures, I was told, had bad pumps in them. They can't get the parts anymore, so I guess they will be there forever...like everything else there!
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Post# 22148-9/17/2002-18:56 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: 1950's Kenmores
MESSAGE: Does anyone know if there are any links to photos of control dials and agitators for Kenmore top loaders from the 50's? This was the period I loved for Kenmores when the various cycles on the timer controls were usually painted different colors (ie yellow for normal, blue or orange-depending on the model- for wash n wear, aqua for delicate). Just curious. I remember four models in particular. One had letters to represent the different cycles ("A" was normal cycle with hot was, "B" warm wash... "C" was pre-wash cycle... "D" was warm wash perm press cycle, "E" cold... "F" was for the delicate cycle-all different colors of course). Thanks. Les
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Post# 22149-9/17/2002-18:59 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: There's more in Iowa to be had!
MESSAGE: Interesting...I wonder what it is with those machines and pumps. The UK guys have had the same issues. One of them did write and gave me a good lead. He recognized the machine you gave me and what it is comparable to in a UK model, so my next step is to get in touch with "Spares R Us". (I love that name, LOL). Scott
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Post# 22150-9/17/2002-18:59 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Jimmy Visits Omaha (M + C ??)
MESSAGE: Jimmy and I were going crazy trying to figure that out this weekend. My 1960 panel also has that designation. M + C is the wash-n-wear cycle and has a long, cold overflow period at the end of the wash cycle. It really does cool the water down quite a bit, starting with warm. There is no thermostatic valve in these machines that would give a "medium" temperature so it is still a mystery. Does anyone have a manual for Kelvinator washers from the 60's - SteveD??
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Post# 22151-9/17/2002-19:00 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Thank you Jetcone! (You're more than welcome!)
MESSAGE: Enjoy them,it was a pleasure meeting you at the convention!
I hope you and your Mom can come to Boston sometime for another wash-In!
Cheers
Jetcone
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Post# 22152-9/17/2002-19:00 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: There's more in Iowa to be had! (1955 Set. Did I understand your story correctly?)
MESSAGE: Jimmy, what an incredible story!!!. Greg, I think the washer should be nicknamed Ramblin' Rose.
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Post# 22153-9/17/2002-19:01 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Magtag, et al
MESSAGE: The large button (black in later machines) was the water level switch - when the cap of the agitator rose with the water level in the tub, it would push that switch and the agitation would begin. That is why it would stop and begin filling again when the lid was lifted during agitation. The flapper is the trip level for the off-balance switch. When the tub was off balance in spin, the agitator would hit that level and stop the machine.
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Post# 22154-9/17/2002-19:01 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: There's more in Iowa to be had! (1955 Set. Did I understand your story correctly?)
MESSAGE: No w I REALLY have Frigidaire envey.
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Post# 22155-9/17/2002-19:02 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Unimatic and Filtrator Goes to Hollywood (Playing vidoes)
MESSAGE: At home I'm on a MAC, not windows. Is it possible to play the videos of your Frigidaire on my Mac? And if so can you tell me how? I'm not exactly what you'd call a computer whiz. Thanks.
Les
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Post# 22156-9/17/2002-19:02 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Thank you Jetcone!
MESSAGE: What did you get?? Inquiring minds want to know ;-)
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Post# 22157-9/17/2002-19:04 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: There's more in Iowa to be had!
MESSAGE: Good luck Scott. I hope you can get that part - it would be a shame to lose that machine for lack of a pump! I wonder if we could retro-fit a newer style Hoover pump on that machine...
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Post# 22158-9/17/2002-19:04 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: 1943-44 Bendix Deluxe Washer (1943-44 Bendix)
MESSAGE: Bruce, yes, there's at least one other club member that got accussed of oversudsing their bendix more tha once I'm sure. (and it isn't me). Even cost him a trip to the beach once. As for me, I was 18 months old and would open the door while it was washing and let all the water out/down the driveway--much to my mom's chagrin and embarrassment.
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Post# 22159-9/17/2002-19:06 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: There's more in Iowa to be had!
MESSAGE: From the sounds of things in UK, I'm thinking we should be in good shape, I'll keep you posted! The pump seemed familiar to Andrew, the person who is helping me.
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Post# 22160-9/17/2002-19:07 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Thanks to all of you
MESSAGE: Phiulippe, what, and we didn't know-??? When steve 1-18, Rhinnie, & I were driving to Maryland, we may have been "in the neighborhood'~!~
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Post# 22161-9/17/2002-19:07 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Magtag, et al (Lever - not level)
MESSAGE: Sorry, that should have been lever (twice) in that post - hope I didn't confuse you!
But the AMP, as with all washers worked best when it was level!
;-)
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Post# 22162-9/17/2002-19:09 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm new
MESSAGE: Les, no thanks needed. We're glad u r here. Wow, another Atlanta member--hmmm. And y'all have basements there!!!!
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Post# 22163-9/17/2002-19:40 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Unimatic and Filtrator Goes to Hollywood (Playing vidoes)
MESSAGE: Les can view them on a Mac but you cannot view them in Quicktime. You need to download the latest version of the Microsoft Media Player. You can get it at microsoft.com.
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Post# 22164-9/17/2002-19:44 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: I'm Going To Bring Down Applianceville Temporarily
MESSAGE: Hi Everyone around 9:00pm Central Time, 4:00am Amsterdam Time and 12:00 Noon Sydney/Melbourne Time I'm going to bring down Applianceville for a couple of hours to start testing some new posting features I am coding for the club. I will bring it back up as soon as possible.
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Post# 22165-9/17/2002-19:50 ||| Bendixman (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: 1943-44 Bendix Deluxe Washer (1943-44 Bendix)
MESSAGE: I'm glad to hear that there were other children out there who had the same curiosity as I had. Keep in touch it's good to talk.
Bruce
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Post# 22166-9/17/2002-20:36 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm Going To Bring Down Applianceville Temporarily (Chat Room -- open for a few hours tonight)
MESSAGE: I've opened the chat room for a while while Robert has App'ville down.
Chat Room
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Post# 22167-9/17/2002-20:41 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm Going To Bring Down Applianceville Temporarily (Chat Room!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Glenn - I went in the chat room and no one was their
Anyway can we bookmark it & keep it going?
Peter
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Post# 22168-9/17/2002-22:04 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Building A Better Applianceville
MESSAGE: Back on May 21, 2001 when Applianceville was a mere one day old, Glenn (Dadoes) asked the following question in Post #92: "What is the possibility for having a "preview post" function, for purposes of proofreading and editing before final submission?"
Well it only took a year and a half before I got around to writing it, but now, in my first major revision to Applianceville, I have added a Preview System to our Post A New Message and Reply To This Post functions. Check it out, go ahead a press Post A New Message or Reply To This Post (from inside a message) and play with the new system. After you type your initial message press when done PUSH to Preview and check out how your message might look. Make some changes, press preview again, and when you are satisfied press Post this to Applianceville.
The nice thing about this is you can test your links before you post them as well as see the results of any HTML code you might have added to your post!
Now I did quite a bit of testing, but I can't catch everything and just like when we first went live with Applianceville there are going to be some bugs. If you do find a bug please post a message about it so I can research it and fix it.
I also fixed an annoying thing about adding a link to your post. Now you do not have to type in http:// in your link anymore, the system will automatically insert this if its not already there. Some users like to just type in www.theirlink.com and in the old system it wouldn't work without typing http://www.theirlink.com, but now it should.
Hopefully this wasn't too confusing. Let me know what you think of the instructions I've placed into the Preview System, if they are confusing or you think the wording should be changed to make it easier to use, please lets discuss.
Enjoy everyone!---Lots more changes to come this fall!
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Post# 22169-9/17/2002-22:22 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: 1943-44 Bendix Deluxe Washer (1943-44 Bendix)
MESSAGE: I will do that Bruce, look forward to it. Wash on front loaders & Frigidaires!!!!!
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Post# 22170-9/17/2002-22:37 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm new (WELCOME LES!)
MESSAGE: Hi, great group here and very helpful and knowledgable. Hope you enjoy........ I also like the old window A/C's too, My mom gave my brother a 1965 Carrier 8,700 BTU's window unit; white steel cabinet with white and gray interior, thing worked fantastic, weighed a ton and my brother left it in the window of the building he USE TO rent............uuggggghhhh, its gone......
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Post# 22171-9/17/2002-22:39 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: More to be had in IOWA
MESSAGE: what i would not do for a Frigidaire and Kelvinator washer.... run with that.............(ahhahahah)
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Post# 22172-9/17/2002-22:40 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: Hard, Old Rubber Parts.....Possible Remedy
MESSAGE: Hi All, Been working on my new Golden Touch Kelvinators. The boot under the agitator was hard and crunchy from age. Tried a trick I use on car restoration: Soak the rubber parts in BRAKE FLUID. It adds a certain amount of resiliency back to old rubber, and since a car brake system is made up of many rubber parts, actually conditions rubber and preserves it. It seemed to do the trick on the Kelvinator parts. I put the boot back on, its much softer now and seemed to work fine. Pics to follow soon of its Splash Dance........
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Post# 22173-9/17/2002-22:40 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: 1958 Filtrator needs new door gasket
MESSAGE: anyone know how I can go about getting this? thanks :)
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Post# 22174-9/17/2002-22:42 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Unimatic and Filtrator Goes to Hollywood (Playing vidoes)
MESSAGE: Thanks! I'll check on the download. In the meantime, I'll play your Frigidaire videos tomorrow morning on the office computer which is a PC. You should have seen the look on my co-workers faces today when they walked in and saw me glued to the screen watching the ABC-O-Matic splashing away and the 1956 Norge Timeline doing it's famous overflo rinse!
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Post# 22175-9/17/2002-22:44 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Hard, Old Rubber Parts.....Possible Remedy (cool, anxious to see pics.......)
MESSAGE: that does sound like a great idea, maybe that will work on the bushings on my compressor on my Norge refrigerator.......(P.S. - what a nightmare that app has been - uuggghhh)
-GregM
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Post# 22176-9/17/2002-22:48 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hard, Old Rubber Parts.....Possible Remedy (Golden Touch Washer/Golden Touch Agitation)
MESSAGE: Jimmy, does this machine you just got say "Golden Touch Washer" or some such thing on the panel? A lot of folks don't know they were ever called that, but I think that was because Kelvinator kept changing the name of their wash action (i.e. Golden Touch, Energetic, Eccentric, etc.)
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Post# 22177-9/17/2002-22:48 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm new (WELCOME LES!)
MESSAGE: My dumb cousin gave away a 1956 Westinghouse window unit (pistachio green front cover with a dark green outer frame) that was in perfect working order without even asking me if I wanted it. I was furious! It weighed about two tons! And my parents sold our 1952 Deering casment window unit for 50 dollars at a garage sale while I was away at school. I was heartbroken when I got home and it was gone. The compressor on that baby purred like a kitten.
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Post# 22178-9/17/2002-22:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm new (Twin Conditioner)
MESSAGE: I would love to find a Frigidaire Twin Conditioner, and window AC with two compressors!
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Post# 22179-9/17/2002-22:52 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hard, Old Rubber Parts.....Possible Remedy (WOW)
MESSAGE: Thanks Jimmy, I never knew that, I'm going to have to give that a try.
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Post# 22180-9/17/2002-22:53 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Hard, Old Rubber Parts.....Possible Remedy (Golden Touch Washer/Golden Touch Agitation)
MESSAGE: Scott, yes, "Golden Touch" is visible on the console in one of the pics!
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Post# 22181-9/17/2002-22:57 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire safety switch
MESSAGE: One distinct feature I remember about my Aunt's Frigidaire (I think it was a 56) was the safety switch which was placed on the back panel to the left of the main control timer. As long as the switch was NOT depressed the washer would run but if you opened the lid and let it rest against the back panel it would press the button and stop the machine. I've always thought this was the oddest safet switch ever. Of course I loved it because it made it easy to observe the washer in operation without having to press in a safety switch. All I had to do was hold the lid open to keep it from resting against the panel. Does anyone know what year Frigidaire first introduced this feature and how long it was used?
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Post# 22182-9/17/2002-23:03 ||| bendix5 (oregon)
SUBJECT: RE: 1943-44 Bendix Deluxe Washer (1943-44 Bendix)
MESSAGE: It is nice to see another Bendix man on the posts. They were wonderful machines along with just about every other vintage machine with lots of sounds and chrome and lights. Too bad todays machines aren't that beautiful. I remember adding extra detergent to my moms bendix to get a over suds situation. Got in big trouble a couple of times, because my mom always poured a glass of water down the chute after the detergent to keep it clean. She knew if someone added extra. She was smart though. Just put in some sta-puff and the suds went away. Nice meeting you!
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Post# 22183-9/17/2002-23:04 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1958 Filtrator needs new door gasket
MESSAGE: sending me your address....I have several
Is this the round door gasket or the gasket around the rectangular door flange on the cabinet (black rubber channel type around the porcelain frame
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Post# 22184-9/17/2002-23:05 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: More to be had in IOWA
MESSAGE: There is still a Frigidaire washer - the custom deluxe in white up there
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Post# 22185-9/17/2002-23:33 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Kelvinators Work !!
MESSAGE: Jimmy sent me some pictures of his Kelvinator washer tonight and I took some of mine after it was up and running so I posted them for everyone to see the new babies up and running.
This machine's cycle is a bit different than the 1960 one I restored from the farm. The rinse cycle starts agitation at about 1/2 to 3/4 full and continues to fill. The stationary overflow comes after this (makes more sense really, after the clothes have been circulated for a couple of minutes to float away the soap scum more thoroughly) and then comes the splash away rinse. The 1960 model did the overflow and splash away first, then agitation for 2 minutes, then agitated overflow. Just like Kelvinator, always changing something. Too bad they didn't make it.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Kelvinator+Kelvinator&.src=ph&.dnm=Jimmy%27s+Kelvinator+1.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Kelvinator%2bKelvinator%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 22186-9/17/2002-23:34 ||| Toddbc (British Columbia)
SUBJECT: GE WRINGER WASHER DECALS
MESSAGE: i am trying to find GE wringer washer decals from the 50's or 60's, anyone out there know of any?
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Post# 22187-9/17/2002-23:49 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Hard, Old Rubber Parts.....Possible Remedy (Golden Touch Washer/Golden Touch Agitation)
MESSAGE: I just received an ABC-o-matic catalog in the mail today that refers to the wash action as "Centra Flex" agitation!
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Post# 22188-9/17/2002-00:12 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hard, Old Rubber Parts.....Possible Remedy (Golden Touch Washer/Golden Touch Agitation)
MESSAGE: yet another one I had not heard!
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Post# 22189-9/18/2002-05:12 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: More to be had in IOWA (Frigidaire washer)
MESSAGE: Is it a solid tub Jetcone? If not,what kind of Pulsator? I might want it.
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Post# 22190-9/18/2002-06:57 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Hard, Old Rubber Parts.....Possible Remedy (WOW)
MESSAGE: Yes, Jimmy - that sounds like a very practical solution to a tough problem. Curious though - is that brake fluid tough to clean off the rubber parts? Just asking since the brake fluid may be a good solution for those brittle rubber parts on the Philco washers - parts that are right in the tub and in direct contact with the clothes.
BTW, can't wait for pics of the 60's Philco pair - up and running!
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Post# 22191-9/18/2002-07:06 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinators Work !!
MESSAGE: You know Greg, I have always wondered if so many of the older brands didn't make it as a result of their being acquired by White Consolidated. That seemed to be the kiss of death for Hamilton, Gibson, Kelvinator and Westinghouse. I guess when you start giving these appliances away on game shows that is another danger sign. I never saw Frigidaires or old GE's on Let's Make A Deal!!
Another thing I noticed recently. While at a local appliance parts store, there were some WCI parts packaged in plastic with the various brand names on them (Gibson, Tappan, Kelvinator). But it also included Philco. I haven't seen a Philco anything since 1972. I didn't know WCI even acquired the Philco name, let alone produce anything with the Philco name!
Of course this is the same parts store that is selling a replacement "jet flow" bed of nails filter for $40.00...........
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Post# 22192-9/18/2002-07:07 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinators Work !! (Fantastic!)
MESSAGE: Greg,
That machine is beautiful!
Gee...
Thanks for the pictures!
Brent
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Post# 22193-9/18/2002-07:23 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: RE: Hard, Old Rubber Parts.....Possible Remedy (WOW)
MESSAGE: The brake fluid is not hard at all to wash off the rubber parts.......and it is a MUST to get it all off if silicone sealer is going to be used. I did a soak of about 3 hrs for the Kelvinator boot. If it was really bad, I think an overnight soak would be more helpful.
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Post# 22194-9/18/2002-07:35 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinators Work !!
MESSAGE: For a variety of reasons like rising production, labor, freight costs, etc. many of the smaller appliance companies couldn't compete with the larger, more diversified manufacturers in a changing economy. American Motors sold off the Kelvinator division to keep their auto plants running for a while longer, GM shed Frigidaire when the energy crunch took it's toll on the economy. I can't imagine how hard it must be today for a company like Staber to begin manufacturing a new product in an industry literally controlled by three giant manufacturers.
I too have noticed the Philco name on several parts from Electrolux, but have yet to see an appliance branded Philco.
Don't pay $40 for a filter - that's insane!
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Post# 22195-9/18/2002-07:45 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: (but ..............)
MESSAGE: its the shipping that kills me, plus is it worth it?? I mean, I heard the guy was rather, well, how can I be polite about this,??? ................ $100.00 for the machine not even knowing if it works or not plus shipping or I rent a vehicle and drive out there?? I should probably hang in there for something closer........ I have yet to go to an estate sale around here, but don't seem to be able to find any yet.......
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Post# 22196-9/18/2002-07:50 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinators Work !! (why didnt they make it?)
MESSAGE: do you know why? was there some inherent flaw? was it the competition?
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Post# 22197-9/18/2002-07:54 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinators Work !! (Philco - FORD)
MESSAGE: I think Philco was taken over by FORD motor co. in the late sixties where as I remember my folks purchased all three new kitchen appliances with the Philco name and the traditional FORD logo right next to it. I don't think FORD had them for long, but not sure.
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Post# 22198-9/18/2002-07:56 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: nevermind why they didnt make it
MESSAGE: i just read post 22194, thanks
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Post# 22199-9/18/2002-07:59 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Magtag, et al (Lever - not level)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the info! That washer had the controls mounted flat on the front corners of the top. You refered to an (a) AMP maytag, what does that mean?
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Post# 22200-9/18/2002-08:30 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinators Work !! (Philco - FORD)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg,
Ford Motor Co. bought out nearly bankrupt Philco (Philadelphia Battery Co.) in the early 60's, mainly to acquire Philco's defense contracts, therefore enabling Ford to enter the space program, as Ford Aerospace. Ford revitalized the company, with new washer and refrigerator designs, and also continued and expanded Philco-Ford electronics (color TV, radios) They made washers up to the very late 60's, and continued with TV's and refrigs till sometime into the 70's. Its a grey area as to why Ford and GM both dumped their appliance business. They certainly were profitable for them. Most likely, one of the reasons for their demise was anti-trust worries from the US govt, as the Co's were getting so big, they were worried that the govt would step in the break them into small divisions..........The oil problems of the 70's and GM's diminishing profits seemed to put a stop to all that talk.
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Post# 22201-9/18/2002-08:34 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: Philco-Ford Trivia
MESSAGE: Triva for you Philco fans: Spanky McFarland, from the Little Rascals (OurGang comedies) was the Philco-Ford sales rep for the state of Texas in the 60's! He probably sold lots of Flex-A-Wash's.
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Post# 22202-9/18/2002-08:34 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1970's Hotpoint on ebay (let's go!)
MESSAGE: Oh, come and get me!
I'm all about Hotpoint -- a solid tub, Silhouette burp-up agitator Hotpoint with a 2 foot tall console! I didn't want anyone to get too excited over that eBay offering. Even when they switched to the GE-under-the-hood, there were/are still prettier HP's out there.
-ph
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Post# 22203-9/18/2002-08:54 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1970's Hotpoint on ebay (nice rewrite)
MESSAGE: Nice posting rewrite Robert! Seems to work very smoothly! We all appreciate your work on this site!
-ph
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Post# 22204-9/18/2002-08:56 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire safety switch
MESSAGE: '47-'49 models: Plunger style lid switch under the lid,
'50-'52 models: No lid switch what so ever,
'53-'56 models: Lid had to rest against plunger on control panel
'57-'59 models: Hidden lid switch underneath washer top
'60-'69 models: Button style lid switch under lid
'70-'79 models: Plunger style lid switch on lid hindge
Pulsamatic models never had any lid switch what so ever. YAY. They probably figured 630rpm spin wasn't as dangerous as 1140rpm spin.
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Post# 22205-9/18/2002-09:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1943-44 Bendix Deluxe Washer (Keeping the Detergent Chute Clean)
MESSAGE: I also pour a glass of hot water down the detergent chute to keep the chute clean on my little Bendix and Duomatic.!
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Post# 22206-9/18/2002-09:07 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire safety switch (1956 Imperial Frigidaire washer)
MESSAGE: Was this the washer? The safety switch is in the center of the load size knob...
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/lst?.dir=/57+Frigidaire+Imperial&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/
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Post# 22207-9/18/2002-09:08 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinators Work !! (That's amazing!)
MESSAGE: Actually, I'm not that surprised. I was shocked to find that once I cleaned all the dirt out of the Kelvinator that I brought home from the farm, it worked without any repairs to the belts, drive unit or timer! I couldn't fix the slow drip out of the pump shaft seal, so I replaced it with a modern electric GE washer pump, but otherwise it worked like a charm!
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Post# 22208-9/18/2002-09:12 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinators Work !! (Game Show Give-a-ways)
MESSAGE: I guess when you start giving these appliances away on game shows that is another danger sign. I never saw Frigidaires or old GE's on Let's Make A Deal!!
You know Anthony that is a very interesting observation, I had never thought of that before, but it really makes sense.
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Post# 22209-9/18/2002-09:20 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1970's Hotpoint on ebay (possible bug?)
MESSAGE: Thanks Peter, I'm glad you like it. I love programming, its sort of like my grandmother doing the New York Times crossword puzzle (and as she used to boast "in Ink"!). For me, programming is one of my favorite mind bender games.
Anyway, I think there might be a bug. It has only showed up once so far, on post 22195 from GregM. I believe he is replying to Greg's post 22184, but it didn't repeat the subject or text of Greg's intial post. GregM, do you remember anything strange happening when you made this post?
Lets keep a watch out for any RE:'s that don't have a subject next to them.
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Post# 22210-9/18/2002-09:20 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire safety switch (1956 Imperial Frigidaire washer)
MESSAGE: That's the same washer my aunt had except her agitator was grey instead of brown. But the color of the porcelin tub and the control dials are identical. Thanks!
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Post# 22211-9/18/2002-09:35 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1970's Hotpoint on ebay (possible bug?)
MESSAGE: Yeah, I just read his post and couldn't figure out what he was talking about since there was no subject line and the replied-to post wasn't below his post. I was thinking, "That crazy GregM, always talkin' up out of his head!", but then you pointed out the error, and I recanted my thoughts. This is a good kind of crazy to be! YAY!
-ph
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Post# 22212-9/19/2002-12:10 ||| zzzuni (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Testing the system
MESSAGE: Please ignore this post2
LINK: http://www.maytag.com
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Post# 22213-9/19/2002-12:17 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: YAY, Applianceville is Up and Running in it's New Home
MESSAGE: Hi everyone. We made a migration over to a brand new "state of the art" web-server. I've been told that this server will run much cleaner and give us less problems that on the older server we were hosted on.
There are some users that need to have their passwords fixed from last weeks crash. I'm a bit backed up so if you emailed me already about your password not working, I should have that done by tonight.
Thanks everyone for your patience.
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Post# 22214-9/19/2002-12:57 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: Unfortunate demise of GM Frigidaire appliances
MESSAGE: With regard to previous discussion on this matter.....here are some more ideas to consider. It's said that General Motors management in the late 1960's; began growing concerned that the Frigidaire appliance division was not contributing it's fair share. The United Auto Workers employment contract that covered the appliance factory workers, insured similar pay and benefits as the auto plants. The auto business generated much greater income. The story continues, that from that point GM began contemplating exiting the appliance business. Well, there is a Whirlpool twist to this. By the mid 1970's, a proposition was made to merge Frigidaire appliances with Whirlpool. For one reason or another (FTC issues etc.) the co-mingling never got off the ground. Eventually WCI came around and the rest is history.
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Post# 22215-9/19/2002-12:59 ||| FridgeSpace (UK)
SUBJECT: late 50s Kelvinator fridge free to good home (UK)
MESSAGE: Hello
I'm a PhD student doing research on fridges for a kind of cultural history of the domestic refrigerator - but more about that in a separate post.
For now, this is a quick call to see if anyone in/near London, UK, might be interested in a late 50s Kelvinator which will otherwise go for scrap. Though it's not currently working, it was in full working order up until about a month ago (with just a gasket replaced in 1973). It's around 6 cu ft, white, with a pale pink interior. The owner looked into donating it to the Science Museum collection and though they were quite interested in the end they weren't able to take it. She needs to get rid of it as soon as possible and has arranged for the local Council to dispose of it in the next few days unless anyone is able to take it off her hands. It was bought in 1959, as part of a discontinued line from, she thinks, a c1956 model.
Any interest, let me know ... quickly!
Thanks
Helen
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Post# 22216-9/19/2002-13:20 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Unfortunate demise of GM Frigidaire appliances
MESSAGE: Hi Leslie
Very interesting! One has to wonder whether or not Whirlpool would have continued the Frigidaire up and down agitator. Just think of the possibilities that may have been...
Rich
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Post# 22217-9/19/2002-13:53 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Unfortunate demise of GM Frigidaire appliances (Unfortunate demise of GM Frigidaire )
MESSAGE: It's to bad that Whirlpool didn't get it.
Everyone can see how much Whirlpool did for KitchenAid
It would have probably been a dream come true to have a Jetaction Whirlpool!
Peter
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Post# 22218-9/19/2002-13:54 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: YAY, Applianceville is Up and Running in it's New Home (Applianceville is Up and Running)
MESSAGE: Thank You Robert for all your efforts
Peter
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Post# 22219-9/19/2002-13:55 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: YAY, Applianceville is Up and Running in it's New Home (Applianceville is Up and Running)
MESSAGE: Thank You Robert for all your efforts
Peter
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Post# 22220-9/19/2002-14:36 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Unfortunate demise of GM Frigidaire appliances
MESSAGE: Whoa! So that means there would've been Pulsating Kenmores too.
"Grind-click-thump thump thump thump thump thump thump thump thump thump thump thump "
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Post# 22221-9/19/2002-15:24 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Unfortunate demise of GM Frigidaire appliances (History Lesson)
MESSAGE: Hi Leslie, that's a great piece of history. I can only imagine what a morphed Frigidaire/Whirlpool washer would look like. Hmmmmm.
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Post# 22222-9/19/2002-15:27 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Unfortunate demise of GM Frigidaire appliances (Fun with Sounds)
MESSAGE: You know Jason, it would be fun to record both a Kenmore "Grind-Click" and a Frigidaire "thump thump thump thump thump thump thump thump thump thump thump thump" and combine the sounds in a sound editor to get a idea of what a morphed Frigidare/Whirlpool washer might sound like. :)
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Post# 22223-9/19/2002-16:08 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Unimatic and Filtrator Goes to Hollywood (50's Frigidaires)
MESSAGE: Thanks so much for the great videos. Nothing beats a Frigidaire soap cloud and spin-off! Do you happen to have a close-up pic of the main control knob I could view?
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Post# 22224-9/19/2002-16:56 ||| COMBOBOY (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Unfortunate demise of GM Frigidaire appliances (History Lesson)
MESSAGE: I was recalling the days of the auto/appliance giants and I can remember most of what happened with Frid/GM, Ford/Philco,Nash/Kel, but what ever happened to the Chrysler/Airtemp situation? Did AT ever make any home stuff other than a/c units?
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Post# 22225-9/19/2002-17:17 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Unfortunate demise of GM Frigidaire appliances (Frigpool)
MESSAGE: When I took sophomore economics in high school, WCI was one of my companies that chose to track through the school year. (I wonder why - Maytag and Sears were my other two choices!) This would have been probably 1980-81, shortly after the merger with Frigidaire. As I recall, WCI's earnings performance was quite good for the period I tracked them. I wish I'd saved the written report and documentation I'd gathered.
Since WCI did not aquire the Frigidaire design and production lines and only had to order new labels for their current line (which Whirlpool probably would have done also) they didn't have to absorb the cost of running additional factories. Mergers are extremely expensive and are an enormous drain on personnel to staff and manage the aquired company. With only a brand name aquisition, the costs would have been much lower and more readily profitable for a company like WCI.
I wonder what the actual terms of the sale were, it would be interesting to know what WCI paid for what they got.
Thanks for the history lesson Leslie!
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Post# 22226-9/19/2002-17:45 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: Picture time
MESSAGE: Because I was very busy lately I didn't have time to put the pictures of the convention and of the rest of the holiday on the net, but finally here they are. It started all with a few days with friends in Holland and it all ends in Bristol VA. Three weeks I enjoyed thoroughly. Three weeks of meeting wonderful people and lots of beautiful washers. What do you need more to have a perfect holiday!
Louis
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/lst?&.dir=/2002+Convention+and+Holidays&.src=ph&.view=t
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Post# 22227-9/19/2002-17:56 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Unfortunate demise of GM Frigidaire appliances (Lady Jetcone)
MESSAGE: ...just a thought on what one may have found at Sears, had this, rather than the other, merger, taken place! Hopefully Whirlpool would not have maken the same mistakes as WCI did. :-)
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Post# 22228-9/19/2002-18:09 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Unfortunate demise of GM Frigidaire appliances (Frigpool)
MESSAGE: I just wish I knew where the rights and patents are floating around, or if it would just be a public domain thing by now.
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Post# 22229-9/19/2002-18:21 ||| Meliatx (houston, tx)
SUBJECT: button hole part kenmore model 54 sewing machine
MESSAGE: I have a dear old sewing machine. It is a wonderful Kenmore model 54. But I lost the button hole guide in a move from MS to TX. Any suggestions on old parts for sewing machines. I just had a baby and all her clothes so far have elastic or ties :)
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Post# 22230-9/19/2002-18:57 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: button hole part kenmore model 54 sewing machine
MESSAGE: You might try Ebay...I often see Kenmore sewing machine parts on there, and things having to do with buttonholes. I'm not familiar with your model, but it might be worth a look to see if they have something you can use! Scott
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Post# 22231-9/19/2002-18:59 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Unfortunate demise of GM Frigidaire appliances (WCI )
MESSAGE: The biggest mistake WCI made when purchasing Frigidaire was that they didn't get the factories. All they realy purchaced was the name Frigidaire. For 2 years 1979 & 1980 they paid GM to make the products for them. The cost was just to high. If they had at least kept the washers and the refrigation end they would have done well with Frigidaire. Their mistake was trying to fool everyone and say the products were just as good. The actual change over was actually January 1981. After that Frigidaire stock fell drastically and their business went to Maytag and Whirlpool. After WCI realized they made a mistake they wanted GM to start making the products again and general motors had shutdown everything and wouldn't start it backup. WCI had all the patents and everything was all on paper. The cost would have been to outragous to start from scratch, plus WCI didn't have skill. (So that ended the real Frigidaire) - For a long time I thought they would bring the stuff back - but never happened.
Whirlpool probably would have done it differently to start with
Peter
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Post# 22232-9/19/2002-19:02 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture time (Picture time )
MESSAGE: Louis
The pictures are Great
Peter
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Post# 22233-9/19/2002-19:30 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture time
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, we thoroughly enjoyed the photos of all the facets of your state visit. Did you purchase that lovely chandelier for one of the state dining rooms?
Many times as we have seen the television program, we had no idea "Cheers" was a real-life place.
QEOM
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Post# 22234-9/19/2002-21:38 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: button hole part kenmore model 54 sewing machine
MESSAGE: Hi - I'm not sure who made your machine for Sears/Kenmore, but you might try the link below to the parts store online. If you don't find what you are looking for in their database, you can email them with what you need and they should be able to help you. Good luck!
Congrats on the baby too!!
LINK: http://sewing-machine-parts-store.com/
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Post# 22235-9/19/2002-21:50 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture time
MESSAGE: Great pictures! I'm glad you had such a wonderful time, it looks like you were able to see some beautiful places this trip too! When you come to the midwest for a convention, you'll see corn and cattle as far as the eye can see...how exciting!!!
Thanks for sharing your pics! Greg
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Post# 22236-9/19/2002-21:55 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Unfortunate demise of GM Frigidaire appliances (Fun with Pictures)
MESSAGE: So you'd think a Frigidaire Kenmore would look like this?
I made this a few months ago.
LINK: http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/kenmore800/vwp?.dir=/pictures/weird+stuff&.dnm=Frigidaire+RS.jpg&.src=bc&.view=l&.done=http%3a//briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/kenmore800/lst%3f%26.dir=/pictures/weird%2bstuff%26.src=bc%26.view=l
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Post# 22237-9/19/2002-21:55 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Unfortunate demise of GM Frigidaire appliances (Frigemore?)
MESSAGE: Well, I guess I fulfilled that prophecy because I own a Kenmore made by Frigidaire. Sir Frigemore!
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Post# 22238-9/19/2002-22:07 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture time (OMG)
MESSAGE: Now I'm getting all misty again
Those Kenmores were the ones that was in the laundromat that my mom worked for way back in the 70s. I grew up with those machines and the Milnor front-loaders. Those machines are the reason I'm here today.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/vwp?.dir=/2002+Convention+and+Holidays&.dnm=Kenmore+control+panel.jpg&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/vwp%3f.dir=/2002%2bConvention%2band%2bHolidays%26.dnm=Super%2bRotoswirl.jpg%26.src=ph
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Post# 22239-9/19/2002-22:21 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: More to be had in IOWA
MESSAGE: Greg, Many of us want a Frigidaire. We're all waiting in line, so join us in the line. LOL
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Post# 22240-9/19/2002-22:48 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinators Work !! (Philco - FORD)
MESSAGE: Greg - If I am not mistaken, Ford owned Philco for a good few years - at least from the early 60's and probably before. However, the Ford part of name was not incorporated into the Philco logo until the last few years Philco appliances were sold. I know that Philco laundry completely disappeared around 1972, but am not sure about the other appliances. Probably around the mid 1970's since I recall a 1974 Consumer Reports that rated Philco refrigerators.......
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Post# 22241-9/19/2002-22:49 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco-Ford Trivia
MESSAGE: OK, Jimmy, I'll bite - HOW did you know that?????
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Post# 22242-9/19/2002-22:52 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: 1970's Hotpoint on ebay (let's go!)
MESSAGE: Just for yuks, I will recall Hotpoint's actual name for that "burp-up" filter. It was called the "fountain filter" - I guess because it could resembel a fountain and a it has a bit more sales appeal than "burp up" (LOL)
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Post# 22243-9/19/2002-22:59 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinators Work !! (Game Show Give-a-ways)
MESSAGE: Robert - that was just one of those thoughts that flew through my head one day when we were talking about some old game shows and someone mentioned that they always seemed to be giving away Gibson appliances, and then quoted the announcer saying "Gibson ....... one of the White Consolidated Industries". That was when the little gears in my head began to turn..
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Post# 22244-9/19/2002-23:02 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: YAY, Applianceville is Up and Running in it's New Home (Applianceville is Up and Running)
MESSAGE: I second that - once again Robert your time and efforts make all the difference.....
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Post# 22245-9/19/2002-23:02 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Unfortunate demise of GM Frigidaire appliances
MESSAGE: I had the same thought too. But alas, immediately thought, Naaah. Probably still have my shredmore today.
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Post# 22246-9/19/2002-23:04 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: YAY, Applianceville is Up and Running in it's New Home (Applianceville is Up and Running)
MESSAGE: Yes Robert, a heart-felt thank you.
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Post# 22247-9/19/2002-23:32 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco-Ford Trivia
MESSAGE: How did I know Spanky McFarland worked for Philco-Ford?
He came to Akron in the late 80's, and made a guest appearance/lecture at a film festival of the Little Rascals films. During his talk, he mentioned that the only stable job he ever had after leaving film work was for Philco-Ford when he lived in Texas. He was their sales rep for the whole state, and did that until they went out of business. From that point on, he made his living from doing lectures and guest appearances at film fests, and marketing his name with the Little Rascals. It was a wonderful evening, he died not long after that, and I was fortunate to have seen him in person, and also got his autograph. What a great guy he was.....and into Philcos too!
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Post# 22248-9/19/2002-23:39 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Unfortunate demise of GM Frigidaire appliances (Fun with Sounds)
MESSAGE: Well, I have to say, that at times, when I do a small load on regular agitation (doesn't happen anymore these days) and hear the rapid splashing and the ka-thunk as it kicks into agitation, it reminds me of a GM Frigidaire and combine that with the Whirlpool sound. Even on full water level now, the fast strokes hitting the end of each stroke mechanically is reminiscent of the thumpa ...... That's what attracted me to this washer, the rollover was so reminiscent of a Frigidaire--who knew what lurked down at the base of the skirt though!!!
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Post# 22249-9/19/2002-23:55 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Washers from all different countries!
MESSAGE: I found this and it is kinda cool in case anyone is interested. On th left side look under products to see the different kinds of washers.
LINK: http://www.worldwashingmachines.com/
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Post# 22250-9/19/2002-00:21 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture time
MESSAGE: Luigi, thanks for taking such great pics. I particularly liked seeing pics of the MA wash in and Jon's house. Yes, Al does look like a happy dog for sure. Bubba
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Post# 22251-9/19/2002-01:22 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Unfortunate demise of GM Frigidaire appliances (Fun with Pictures (that is fun!))
MESSAGE: I always thought the Roto-Swirl was "full figured" but look at how large it is in a 12lb tub - it probably wouldn't fit in a 9 lb tub at all!
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Post# 22252-9/19/2002-01:27 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: More to be had in IOWA (What line?)
MESSAGE: Or, simply avoid the line and call the man in Iowa - there are lots of Frigidaires there! Several early 60's air-flow dryers, a 55 Filtrator (there were two, I have one) a mid 60's Custom Deluxe washer in white, a 68 Crown washer in white and don't forget about the Blackstone/Hoover dryer just for fun!
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Post# 22253-9/19/2002-01:32 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinators Work !! (Game Show Give-a-ways)
MESSAGE: I remember lots of Speed Queen pairs on the Price is Right in the 70's. Lots of WCI Gibson and some Amana, microwave ovens were popping up quite often too.
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Post# 22254-9/19/2002-01:44 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Unfortunate demise of GM Frigidaire appliances (Fun with Sounds)
MESSAGE: But can it crush ice? A top loading daquri machine!
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Post# 22255-9/20/2002-02:16 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinators Work !! (Game Show Give-a-ways)
MESSAGE: I seem to recall a lot of Speed Queen sets being given away on game shows.
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Post# 22256-9/20/2002-07:55 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: I can sign back on, thanks robert!
MESSAGE: thanks, have a good weekend everyone :) ......
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Post# 22257-9/20/2002-07:58 ||| MrCoffee (Flint, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Is this discrimination?
MESSAGE: I noticed that there are some problems with the videos on the web page. I especially noticed the requirement for Windows Media Player.
Sorry, but I do not use Windows. Nor will I ever. I am a Linux and OS-X user. It is my hope that the videos can be converted into a more open format, such as mov or mpg.
Not only would Windows users still be able to view the files, those files could also be viewed by the rest of us who use other (and we believe more superior) operating systems.
Thank you for your consideration.
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Post# 22258-9/20/2002-08:22 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinators Work !! (Game Show Give-a-ways)
MESSAGE: Now that you mention that Rich, I do remember seeing occasional Speed Queens as prizes, and there might even have been one or two Maytag sets over the years. I think that WCI stuff was the norm on most shows though. Remember those announcers: "Speed Queen..... a McGraw Edison division"..... and "Maytag - the dependability people"...
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Post# 22259-9/20/2002-09:04 ||| cycla-fabric (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture time (Great Pictures!!!)
MESSAGE: Louis,
You took some great pictures on your vacation. I hoped you enjoyed yourself. And it was great to meet you at the convention too!!!!
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Post# 22260-9/20/2002-09:16 ||| cycla-fabric (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: Philco Ford Demise
MESSAGE: I pretty much remember that too. I know I had a Philco Ford room A/C that lasted 29 years before it finally bit the dust. I should have repaired it since I think it was the capacitor that went on it. I bought it in 1971 and worked great. But I have a newspaper article when Ford sold Philco to WCI, and I will try to find it. But I do remember the small article stating that WCI will keep Philco a separate unit and will expand its lineup. But that never happened as we all can see. I will look for it and post it.
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Post# 22261-9/20/2002-10:28 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Unfortunate demise of GM Frigidaire appliances (Fun with Pictures (that is fun!))
MESSAGE: It's not an accurate rendering. It wasn't a very good editing job, just something I threw together. But you're right, the RS is way too big for the Unimatic tub.
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Post# 22262-9/20/2002-10:56 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: Kenmore multi-cycles
MESSAGE: Can any of you Kenmore experts tell we what year Sears rolled out the first top loader with both a normal & delicate cycle and also when the wash n wear (later permanent press) cycle was introduced? I remember my friend's Mom had a Kenmore from mid 50's I think that had the normal cycle in yellow and the delicate in aqua. The lettering was stationary on the control panel and the pointer was on the rotating timer knob which was gold and quite small in diameter. The first model with wash n wear was very similar except it also had this third cycle in orange letters. In the center of the rotating timer knob were the words "2 speed". Also, instead of the word "spin" it said "Damp Dry" on normal and "D. Dry" on the delicate & wash n wear.
Les
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Post# 22263-9/20/2002-12:19 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture time
MESSAGE: What fun pictures Louis, thank you.
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Post# 22264-9/20/2002-12:23 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Unfortunate demise of GM Frigidaire appliances (Fun with Pictures)
MESSAGE: Oh Dear, now that scared me.
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Post# 22265-9/20/2002-12:40 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinators Work !! (Queen For A Day)
MESSAGE: The game show "Queen for a Day" always used to give away Speed Queens.
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Post# 22266-9/20/2002-12:41 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Unfortunate demise of GM Frigidaire appliances (Fun with Pictures)
MESSAGE: How about a Frigidaire three-ring agitator inside a Kenmore tub? Can you imagine that thing bopping up and down around Kenmore's old horseshoe shaped ring? What a sight THAT would make!
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Post# 22267-9/20/2002-12:50 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Is this discrimination?
MESSAGE: To be honest Tom the reason I use the WMV format is because the Windows Media Format takes up a whole lot less disk space than the MPEG, about a third to be exact. Server space is expensive and in order to have as many vidoes as possible I need to watch the file sizes.
If you are a MAC OS-X user, then simply go to the microsoft web site and download Windows Media Player for MAC and you can view these video files. They might even have a Linux version of the Windows Media Player, that I cannot say for sure.
I could code the files into Quick Time MOV files, but that format creates slightly larger files than WMV and all the windows users would need to download Quick Time, just like the MAC Users need to download Windows Media Player, and sorry but there are a lot more windows users than Mac Users using this site. In the reports I get, they should Windows Usage at 95% and Mac usage at about 5%, so WMV it is! Of course things can change quickly in the technology world, so who knows that next year will bring.
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Post# 22268-9/20/2002-12:57 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture time
MESSAGE: Your Majesty,
We left the chandelier at Expo's since we lack a state dining room. We only have a dinner set in the kitchen.
Cheers is only real on the outside, the inside is totally different on the inside. It's much smaller and it's more of a restaurant than a bar.
QLOTOC
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Post# 22269-9/20/2002-13:01 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture time
MESSAGE: Greg,
I had indeed a wonderful time in the US again, not only at the convention, but also with Jon (he was a wonderful host) and down south too. So it's corn and cattle where you live? I guess with some nice sunsets that could make beautiful pictures.
Louis
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Post# 22270-9/20/2002-13:05 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture time (OMG)
MESSAGE: Jason,
I found it quite strange to find those Kenmores in the laundryroom since the hotel was only 3 years old I believe. Do you know how old these washers and dryers could be? I loved the roll over from the Super Surgilator and although I only used warm water and a small amount of Tide things became really clean.
Are these dryers automatic or do they have cycles with preset times?
Louis
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Post# 22271-9/20/2002-13:07 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinators Work !! (Game Show Give-a-ways)
MESSAGE: That makes me think that I have never seen a Miele on a game show overhere!
Louis
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Post# 22272-9/20/2002-13:12 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinators Work !! (Queen For A Day)
MESSAGE: Now that makes sense!!!
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Post# 22273-9/20/2002-13:30 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: Crazy
MESSAGE: After I got back home I caught up with all the messages posted here. Believe me, that was quite a job after being three weeks from home. I saw all the pictures of the new appliances people found, responding to all those messages was too much, but there were some real beauties there! In the meantime I thought I was really crazy catching up like that. It was just that I had always read all the messages. Not only here but also on the Yahoo club. And the members from the beginnning will remember that it all started with a group that Jeff Lefever started. So I started counting....
The first group shows only 4 messages (I posted there on Thursday July 29th 1999), but the Yahoo club was a great succes, we posted there (and it's still going on as a Yahoo group, Classicappliances2) 19555 messages. After that we moved to this new website (Thanks again Robert) and message 22272 was the last one I read. So that makes a total of 41831 messages I have read in just over three years! I didn't even count the messages in the Applianceville-Sandbox, nor the many mails I exchanged with other people about appliances. Am I crazy? YES! Crazy about appliances!!
Louis
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Post# 22274-9/20/2002-13:48 ||| westie2 (arkansas)
SUBJECT: RE: Is this discrimination? (WMV format)
MESSAGE: I talked to our IS manager that uses linux and he says to try Real Time player for the WMV.
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Post# 22275-9/20/2002-13:48 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Is this discrimination?
MESSAGE: I just installed the mac-friendly version of windows media player and now all the videos at this site play great on my G4. I'm defintiely a MAC OS boy. Don't like PC's. Never have... probably never will.
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Post# 22276-9/20/2002-13:57 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture time (OMG)
MESSAGE: Those Kenmores are 1974 models. This was their UGLY year before they went to the black-face models. Still they were belt-driven models and had RotoSwirls. And you better believe it, a RotoSwirl will move lots of clothes. Hence, my favorite agitator.
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Post# 22277-9/20/2002-14:49 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture time (OMG)
MESSAGE: My least favorite Kenmore agitator is that crazy "double action" one they're using now and have been since they went to direct drive. It's terrible on clothes. Tears buttons off shirts, rips garnments to shreds, tangles things up even worse than the old Frigidaires. At least the Frigidaires are fun to watch and make great bubble cakes. I'm with you, Jason. Give me an old RotoSwirl belt-driven over that direct-drive corkscrew thing Kenmore uses now anyday!
My favorite Kenmores are still the 50's and 60's models. Although the 72 Lady Kenmore with the white adjustable agitator is quite nice.
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Post# 22278-9/20/2002-15:48 ||| jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore multi-cycles
MESSAGE: It seems funny to me how the colors and letters changed over the years. On my 59 it goes as follows:
A-B (grey blue) Whites
C-D (yellow) colored
E-F (dark pink) Wash-n-Wear
G-F (mint green) delicates
J-K (orange) Cold Water/Washable Woolens
On the 65 LK (The one I am waiting for!) They don't use colors, and the letters correspond to different cycles with different wash temps and speeds.
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Post# 22279-9/20/2002-16:23 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: Pic O Day: sudsblock
MESSAGE: The cabinet-model Bendix looks to have sudsblock. ;-)
(I know...the photographer was probably trying to prevent flash glare.)
I remember once, and only once, that my mom tried Blue Cheer in her Westy Laundromat. The suds rose all the way up and covered the whole window like that. It was Dash after that!
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Post# 22280-9/20/2002-16:50 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore multi-cycles (Kenmore cycle colors)
MESSAGE: You are so right about how they changed over the years. Besides the two I mentioned earlier, I remember a neighbor's model that had pale yellow for normal, pink for wash n wear, mint green for delicates and blue for pre-wash. This machine had the letters & numbers written in raised silver characters on the rotating dial and the pointer was stationary. The background behind the characters was painted the various colors depending on the cycle. Other models replaced the wash n wear pink for an orangie color. Another model I recall had a control dial almost identical to the 58 Frigidaire on this site's homepage with the pointer rotating and the lettering painted on the backpanel. In those days the Kenmore control panels were always exciting.
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Post# 22281-9/20/2002-16:53 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic O Day: sudsblock
MESSAGE: My Mom was a Tide user and their formula in the 60's and 70's made tons of suds. Sometimes it was all her late 50's Hotpoint (with the long-necked agitator) could do to spin through those suds. Thank heavens for Hotpoint's deep, overflow rinse! That was of course when a Hotpoint had it's own individuality and wasn't just a GE under the hood.
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Post# 22282-9/20/2002-17:06 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic O Day: sudsblock (no Hotpoint suds here...)
MESSAGE: I have trouble getting even a thin layer of suds with my long-neck Hotpoint washer, even in softened water. Only when I start the agitation with a little water and detergent before adding the clothes do I get suds in that machine. Did your mother do this too? My grandmother always added the clothes after the washer was full and the detergent dissolved thoroughly into the water - wringer style!
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Post# 22283-9/20/2002-17:40 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic O Day: sudsblock (no Hotpoint suds here...)
MESSAGE: My Mom always started the water first and added the clothes as the tub was filling. Then she'd dump a bunch of Tide right under the water spout. I think that's what did it. The force of the water hitting directly on the soap powder. Results: Lots of suds.
And we're not even going to talk about what my Aunt's 56 Frigidaire could do with a scoop of Tide! :O
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Post# 22284-9/20/2002-18:00 ||| Bsmntfullosuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture time (OMG)
MESSAGE: I got rid of the avocado Kenmore gas dryer that came with my house. Similar control panel shape lower trim strip and plastic endcaps, but with woodgrain & gold appearance. Had moisture sensor, didn't work though. Wonder how old it was?
Noisy, took forver to heat, drum paint worn away, so attached a Phiilips bit and 3/8" socket adapter to my drills and disassembled it for easy carry up the basement steps. Tore it down to an empty cabinet, and found $5.00 in change, chips for free bar drinks, a gold necklace, and lots of combustible lint packed in nooks and crannies.
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Post# 22285-9/20/2002-20:07 ||| Comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore multi-cycles (Kenmore "
lettered"
dial)
MESSAGE: I seem to remember that the timer knob would stop on the correct setting that corresponded to the button pushed, is that correct? I'm thinking of our 70's Lady Kenmore.
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Post# 22286-9/20/2002-20:26 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore multi-cycles (Kenmore )
MESSAGE: Some of the upper line models had that feature, and others you simply turned the dial to the correct letter and pushed it in, it didn't stop by itself.
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Post# 22287-9/20/2002-22:14 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Is that the Pulitzer committee calling??
MESSAGE: In this months issue of The Old Road Home (for all types of appliance collectors) our very own Rober Seger has written an article about Frigidaire washers complete with pictures and illustrations. The article gives a brief history of Frigidaire washer designs from 1947-1979 and even touts our little club here too!
Congrats on being published again Robert - way to go!!
For those of you who don't subscribe, this link will take you to the quarterly magazine's home page - it really is a very interesting magazine.
LINK: http://www.antiquestoves.com/toac/about.htm
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Post# 22288-9/20/2002-22:33 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinators Work !! (Game Show Give-a-ways)
MESSAGE: Occassionally Maytag laudry & dishwashers too on Let's Make a Deal. And don't forget the Newlywed Game. Lotsa WCI stuff there
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Post# 22289-9/20/2002-22:43 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture time (OMG)
MESSAGE: Les, know you know why I call my 86 DD LK the Shredmore.
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Post# 22290-9/20/2002-22:46 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic O Day: sudsblock
MESSAGE: Does that mean your mom had the wash day Blues and Cheerfully Dashed off to the store to buy the new-fangled detergent again?
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Post# 22291-9/20/2002-22:48 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore multi-cycles (Kenmore cycle colors)
MESSAGE: Les, that last washer you mentioned that was similar to the WCI58, my cousins had that dryer (a Model 70) from about 64-66 model years I believe. Had forgotten about that dryer until you mentioned it.
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Post# 22292-9/20/2002-22:51 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic O Day: sudsblock (no Hotpoint suds here...)
MESSAGE: My mom always started water, added soap, and then clothes. Me, I added clothes, started washer, but NEVER put detergent under water source. Simply for the reason of lowering the suds profussion. I still do this to this day to aid in rinsing in the Shredmore (you know, the one that doesn't have a spray rinse between the wash & rinse cycles and room only for one spray rinse after the deep rinse) LOL.
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Post# 22293-9/20/2002-22:53 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic O Day: sudsblock (no Hotpoint suds here...)
MESSAGE: Ooops, I meant to say I add soap, then clothes, and then start washer today. This is so detergent is on bottom of tub and is dissolving better while the load is washed on gentle. Gentle and detergent on top of load do not "mix" LOL.
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Post# 22294-9/20/2002-21:37 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Is that the Pulitzer committee calling??
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg, it was fun to write and I thought Jack at The Old Road Home Designed the layout very well. He wants to do an article on the Farm next, so maybe all of us boyz who have been to the farm can contribute their experiences and write up a story!
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Post# 22295-9/20/2002-22:57 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Is that the Pulitzer committee calling??
MESSAGE: That would be a lot of fun - keep us posted!
Congrats again - great article...
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Post# 22296-9/20/2002-23:43 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic O Day: sudsblock
MESSAGE: hahaha...u r so funny Bob
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Post# 22297-9/21/2002-01:46 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture time (OMG)
MESSAGE: I too love that agitator, I had fun watching the clothes move around. Do you know anything about these commercial dryers? I had the impression there was not an automatic dryer but the cycles had preset times.
Louis
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Post# 22298-9/21/2002-06:17 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: POD very cool!!
MESSAGE: boy they changed the whole look of the controls between 58 and 59............
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Post# 22299-9/21/2002-08:02 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Unfortunate demise of GM Frigidaire appliances (History Lesson)
MESSAGE: One possible scenario...
The two lines continued parallel for a few years. Then Whirlpool developed the Direct Drive line, and the Frigidaire technology was combined with the Whirlpool DD technology to create a washer which twisted your clothes into ropes before shredding them...
Chris.
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Post# 22300-9/21/2002-08:24 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Washers from all different countries!
MESSAGE: Hi Jamie.
Thanks for posting that, it was great.
I have saved it as a favourite.
Chris.
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Post# 22301-9/21/2002-11:40 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture time (OMG)
MESSAGE: I think those are timed cycles. Those were the 5.7 (I think) capacity dryers of the day.
The Rotoswirl is to Kenmore like the 3-ring is to Frigidaire. It's the best of its kind.
Nothing BORING about them at all.
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Post# 22302-9/21/2002-12:01 ||| Zzzzz (San Diego)
SUBJECT: The trojan horse 1-18
MESSAGE: I've been lurking around this site since day 1, but an experience today goaded me to register so I could vent...
Like a number of you on this site, I am in the hunt for a GM-built Frigidaire washer, primarily as a shop-rag washer but also as a collector's item. It's not an exhaustive search...no bidding a grand and change on eBay for a classic 1965 unit or driving to a neighboring state to scour a boneyard, just occasionally hitting garage and estate sales to see what turns up.
Well, I pulled up to one garage sale this morning and espied a coppertone 1-18 pair in the garage. $90.00/pair. Top-of-the-line, with a window lid. YES! But, on closer inspection of the washer, major letdown...something did not look right through the window. Upon opening the lid, my fears were confirmed...that's a conventional oscillating agitator where the pulsator should be. Funny, the console advertises a "1-18" and it looks the part, but the missing GM logo in the brand emblem pretty much tells the story. (For the record, the dryer was a GM built unit.) Needless to say, I passed on it.
Sorry, but I didn't bring a digital camera along, or I would have taken pictures of this early WCI-era travesty.
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Post# 22303-9/21/2002-15:30 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The trojan horse 1-18
MESSAGE: Hi, welcome to the club. That piece of crap (in plain English) that you saw was one of the earlier Westinghouse models. What infuriated many of us at that time was how they made it look just like the regular Frigidaire washers in every way til you opened the lid. They even had the little water level diagram on front, just like the GM ones did. I'm a little surprised they were still producing machines in Coppertone that late.
Sorry for your disappointment, and hopefully in time you'll come across just what you want! Scott
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Post# 22304-9/21/2002-15:41 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: The trojan horse 1-18 (Fake 1/18)
MESSAGE: Welcome to the Club,
I don't ever remember WCI having a window on any of these tragic washers? The looks were so much alike.
Peter
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Post# 22305-9/21/2002-16:26 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Unfortunate demise of GM Frigidaire appliances (History Lesson)
MESSAGE: Sredding them? how did a kenmore do that? What agitator?
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Post# 22306-9/21/2002-17:44 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: The trojan horse 1-18
MESSAGE: OUCH!!! What a letdown that must have been!! Impostors!! Poseurs!! How dare they!! And every time I hear a story like that - it's like the first time all over again!
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Post# 22307-9/21/2002-18:19 ||| appliguy (Vienna Va.)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinators Work !! (Philco short For Philidelphia Storage Battery Co.)
MESSAGE: Philco actually started out in the early 1900's as the maker of storage batteries, hence the name. In the 1920's they started making battereis for farm radio's which then lead to Philco eventually making their own radio's and then appliances. Here is a link to a page that sells a modern version of the Philco Predicta Tv and it also happens to explain how the Predicta Tv put Philco into Ford's waiting hands in 1962.
LINK: http://www.uptownaudio.com/predicta.htm
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Post# 22308-9/21/2002-18:23 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Fun day at the sales today, and how fabulous that it was the first day in nearly four months that I could wear a sweatshirt, YAY for autumn!
A
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Post# 22309-9/21/2002-18:27 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Fun day at the estate sales today, and how fabulous that it was cool enought that I could wear a sweatshrit, the first time in nearly four months, YAY I love autumn!
Anyway, we so some fun things, nothing really that vintage in the washer department, but there was a early 1970's Gibson washer which is a rare treat, as well as one of the last Westinghouse-style top loaders...
This picture is one long picture of pictures (1.09mb), so those who don't have broadband give it a minute or two to completely load...
LINK: http://www.classicappliances.com/TEMP/Sales-9-21-02.jpg
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Post# 22310-9/21/2002-19:27 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday (1970s Gibson)
MESSAGE: Was it for sale? The control panel is very much like a Philco!
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Post# 22311-9/21/2002-20:32 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Mystery Solved! When I was in Omaha last week, Greg had two lintfilter/fabric softener dispenser pans that neither of us could identify. From your estate sales pics, low and behold, there it is, sitting on the lid of the Gibson washer..........He gave me one of them, now all we need is the washer that fits underneath it...........
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Post# 22312-9/21/2002-20:49 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: Estate Sales In Connecticut
MESSAGE: Well, this weekend saw nothing promising here in Lower Fairfield County estate sales. What was particularly disappointing was that at at least 4 of them, I was faced with the usual junk infested tag sale. I guess people are figuring that calling it an estate sale draws more people. And at those same 4, you couldn't even get into the house.
At the others, nothing special. Some 80's Maytags and Whirlpools but nothing even remotely close to vintage. Not even a decent box of detergent.
However in one house I could see the kitchen - - very promising with a copper brown Hotpoint 40 inch electric range and an avocado GE side by side, as well as some old orange Bold Detergent measuring cups (given away with the free samples from 1965). However, the basement and kitchen were sealed off like Fort Knox and nothing there was for sale -so I wonder what the laundry equipment looked like. Since the house is still for sale, I will have to check it out when there is a public open house.........there is more than one way to skin the cat.
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Post# 22313-9/21/2002-21:05 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: ANOTHER --
HOTPOINT --
QUALITY --
APPLIANCE
From the scrap of Hotpoint box...
Cool sights today, but nothing to bring home. I noticed the NFS (not for sale) tag on the washer, probably will get left in the house and then krushed by the new owners. It would be fun to play with, but only for a couple of loads as I'm sure this Gibson lives up to the reputation of it's Franklin cousins!
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Post# 22314-9/21/2002-21:08 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Robert, thanks for the pics from the sales. And I particularly appreciate the close-up of the Gibson's control panel and the Whirlpool too. Could someone please explain to me was that a vintage Westy fridge or Freezer. Ya oknow, the one with the door open and the 3 big bins. Also, personally, I think Glady is a dead wringer for the best pic of the day. She's doing her job, growing like a weed. And so cute!!! Give her hugs and treats for me & Beau.
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Post# 22315-9/21/2002-21:08 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Franklin filter/dispenser)
MESSAGE: How fun to see that - we figured it was probably a Franklin machine and there it is!
Our sales weren't that great, but we have a couple more to hit tomorrow. It was beautiful weather here too so we spent the day outside and a good portion in the garage getting the 55 Frigidaires ready to move down. They are going to be stunning under the glow of the romantic mood lighting I've installed! Pics to follow soon!
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Post# 22316-9/21/2002-21:10 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sales In Connecticut
MESSAGE: Go Anthony after that cat!!!!
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Post# 22317-9/21/2002-21:12 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Franklin filter/dispenser)
MESSAGE: romantic mood lighting and pulsating ..... You're definitely washed up for sure.
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Post# 22318-9/21/2002-21:23 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: POD very cool!!
MESSAGE: That 59 Frigidaire control panel looked a bit Kenmore-influenced to me. I like it a lot, it just reminds me of a Kenmore.
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Post# 22319-9/21/2002-21:27 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Jimmy's Maytag A3MP & Kelvinator Pictures
MESSAGE: Jimmy sent me pictures of his new Maytag washer and Kelvinator set - what beautiful machines they are.
He also sent one of a very fun dishwasher we've all seen and stared at in the stores, but never owned...
I posted these photos to his photo album:
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gefilterflo/vwp?.dir=/New+Arrivals&.src=ph&.dnm=Kelvinator+Set+Ready+to+Wash.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gefilterflo/lst%3f%26.dir=/New%2bArrivals%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 22320-9/21/2002-21:39 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Estate Sale)
MESSAGE: Robert - what Great finds for 1 day
Peter
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Post# 22321-9/21/2002-21:41 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Jimmy's Maytag A3MP & Kelvinator Pictures (Kelvinator Set!!)
MESSAGE: That is extremly rare to get a set like that
AWSOME
Best Of Luck!
Peter
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Post# 22322-9/21/2002-21:41 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Thanks for posting the pictures, Robert. They were fun. That Gibson is rare...I have never seen one. I've seen many "Frigidaires" with that tub and agitator however. Who'd have thought? It's cool how many folks in the midwest would keep their wringer washer after they got an automatic.
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Post# 22323-9/21/2002-21:43 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: 55 Filtrator Choked by Lint
MESSAGE: I took the top of the 1955 Frigidaire Filtra-Matic dryer today to give it a 'quick' cleaning. It turned into nearly a whole day project, but I got it done and all back together and it works beautifully.
When I found this dryer in the Early, Iowa store, I was thrilled to find the factory cleaning brush inside the drum. I thought at the time, "the brush looks nearly new." Turns out that brush was so nice because it got very little use, have a look!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Frigidaire&.src=ph&.dnm=Filtrator+Lint+Trap.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Frigidaire%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 22324-9/21/2002-21:51 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Those pictures were so cool.
Thanks Uni! Just loved the Westinghouse. They were nice washers and the agitator in that Gibson was so cool!
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Post# 22325-9/21/2002-21:53 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Washers from all different countries!
MESSAGE: What particularly appealed to you?
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Post# 22326-9/21/2002-22:45 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Jimmy's Maytag A3MP & Kelvinator Pictures
MESSAGE: Well, the pics look wonderful. I wish I could have that demo dishwasher. But, Max & Kirk are gonna let me have their Maytag belt-drive dishwasher when they get rid of it and get something more modern. My first "collectable" appliance.
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Post# 22327-9/21/2002-23:32 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: POD very cool!!
MESSAGE: Rich, I thought the same thing when I first saw that '59 Frigidaire timer dial -- looked like a Kenmore!
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Post# 22328-9/22/2002-01:26 ||| cleanteamofny (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: JACKPOT!!!
MESSAGE: Wow, I like the looks of this new updated site!
Friday the 13 was a gem for you and for me GregM!
Would you believe that I found my mothers 1972 portable Kenmore, 3 cycles, 1 water level, 2 speed washer in the trash that same day right before I went on vacation?
What a pre-vacation present!
The only difference of my mom's old washer was the color!
She had avocado and my new find is in white......
Oh what great joy to hear that timer go click, click, click, pop when turning and starting the timer as well as the water being extracted onto the metal inner basket making that shhhh sound!
I will have photos of it to post later on today!
Congrats on your find!
Larry
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Post# 22329-9/22/2002-07:53 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Washers from all different countries!
MESSAGE: There were lots of washers I have never heard of.
A front loader from Turkey was called an Arcelik.
Say that the Australian way and you'll know why I almost fell off my chair laughing.
As it's not vintage related we'd better go no further or move to the sandbox.
Chris.
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Post# 22330-9/22/2002-10:48 ||| cleanteamofny (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: What is the make?
MESSAGE: I was checking out Ebay this morning and came across this.....
Is this an Westy or an Frigidaire?
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2056098756
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Post# 22331-9/22/2002-10:58 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday (I live in the WRONG state!)
MESSAGE: Of course, the Kenmore dryer. What can I say? It's the 70 series but beautiful. My mom's dryer had the small door but hers was a 600.
My great-grandmother had a Marquette washer with the very same Franklin mechanism. Boy did that Gibson bring back memories!
We never have estate sales here in New Orleans. There actually was one. My mom went to it AND SHE NEVER TOLD ME!!! GRRRRR!!!!! Welcome to the land of rust!
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Post# 22332-9/22/2002-10:59 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: What is the make? (Frigihouse? Westidaire?)
MESSAGE: It's a WCI machine. It doesn't pulsate :-(
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Post# 22333-9/22/2002-11:32 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD very cool!!
MESSAGE: Well, I guess I'm a bit dunce & vision challenged. I actually got to play with a WI59 for several years, so similar to the WCI59, and I never saw the resemblence of any Kenmore at all. So, I'm very intimate with this particular control panel design. Please 'splain what y'all are seein'.
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Post# 22334-9/22/2002-12:50 ||| appliguy (Vienna Va.)
SUBJECT: RE: What is the make?
MESSAGE: That pair is a Frigidaire pair and is only a 20 minute drive from where I live. To bad it is not a true 1-18 set
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Post# 22335-9/22/2002-14:11 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Jimmy's Maytag A3MP & Kelvinator Pictures
MESSAGE: I noticed that the timer knob on the Maytag you found is identical to the 1949 model except on this one the numbers for the wash time are in red rather than the 49's grey and the top of the control knobs appear to be silver instead of all-white. What year is this one and is the agitator red like the 49 or black? Also, I'd love to see a close-up photo of the timer on the Kenmore you found.
Les
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Post# 22336-9/22/2002-18:23 ||| JoeEkaitis (Rialto, California, USA)
SUBJECT: What's Old is New Dept. (Sunday, Sept. 22, 2002 POD)
MESSAGE: Hmmm. . .Launderall with Top-Fil-Dor, Re-Verso-Rol wash action and Roto-Drier action.
Yeah, we can do that. :)
LINK: http://www.staber.com/
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Post# 22337-9/22/2002-18:41 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: RE: Jimmy's Maytag A3MP & Kelvinator Pictures
MESSAGE: The last patent date on the back of my Maytag is 1953, so I think that dates the machine to that year. The top of the dial is acutally copper colored, but appeared silver in the photo. The agitator in it is red. I will take pics of the matching condenser dryer I have, as soon as I dig it out of my back garage.
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Post# 22338-9/22/2002-18:44 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: What is the make?
MESSAGE: Those, I am sorry to say, are Westinghouse. :-(
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Post# 22339-9/22/2002-18:46 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD very cool!!
MESSAGE: I'll defer to the others on the 59, but I actually see more Sears resemblance in the 58. The square timer dial with the pointer and colored trim reminds me very much of a certain Sears model from about that time or perhaps a bit later. Only difference was on the Sears, the water temp and level controls were one on each side of the timer, rather than both to the left.
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Post# 22340-9/22/2002-18:48 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: What is the make?
MESSAGE: Definitely WCI...you can tell by the dryer door. From the lid on the washer it looks like the Franklin-style, rather than the Westinghouse. It probably has the same agitator as we saw in the Gibson washer from Robert's estate sale pictures.
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Post# 22341-9/22/2002-18:48 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Jimmy's Maytag A3MP & Kelvinator Pictures
MESSAGE: What is an A3MP? How is it different from an AMP? I thought it was a typo at first but I have seen it too many times now in recent posts.
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Post# 22342-9/22/2002-18:59 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: What is the make?
MESSAGE: Maybe, but I think the agitators on the WCI built Frigidaires had straight vanes at the bottom, with a sort of modified Roto-Swirl look from the middle to the top. I remember a Consumer Reports that showed the different agitators in the WCI built machines and Gibson/Kelvinator had straight vanes top to bottom while Westinghouse had protruding straight vanes in the middle of the agitator while Frigidaire had the agitator as I described.
In fact my best friend's parents moved from New Port Richey Florida to neighboring Bayonet Point in 1985 and the new house had a similar Frigidaire pair. Very unimpressive to watch and if I am not mistaken, they lasted less than 4 years.
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Post# 22343-9/22/2002-19:32 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: RE: Jimmy's Maytag A3MP & Kelvinator Pictures
MESSAGE: The model number stamped on the plate of my Maytag is A3MP. Any Maytag experts out there know the differences in the line up? I thought maybe the 3 denoted 1953.......which is the last date on the patent decal on the back of the washer......
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Post# 22344-9/22/2002-21:25 ||| steved (Albany, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: What is the make? (I know.......)
MESSAGE: Hey, this is a WCI Frigidaire set, as I have the same set, purchased new in Nov 1990. Its a newer version than the Gibson, when WCI switched from the old Franklin (Gibson) style, with the access panel on front to the newer removable front panel style......now, dont all start throwing tomatoes........ :-) SteveD
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Post# 22345-9/22/2002-22:03 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: What is the make?
MESSAGE: Hi Anthony
WCI has had more agitators than any other manufacturer, I think. Especially on their Frigidaire line. It seemed they had a different agitator in them every year. I remember the agitator you are talking about...but they did have Gibson "innards" in the Frigidaires for quite a few years after the Westinghouse "innards," but before that roto-toped straight vane appeared. The cabinet and lid on that picture look Gibson to me. I think the roto-topped straight vane was in a machine where the lid opened back. I could very well be wrong, however. Those machines were hard to keep up with and I never really paid them that much attention. It was like WCI just couldn't quite get it right and was trying a multitude of agitators. If they could have kept that tub still, they may have gotten some decent washing action out of one of them.
Rich
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Post# 22346-9/22/2002-22:06 ||| Joesplace (col,oh)
SUBJECT: G.M. FRIGIDAIRE ICECREAM REACH IN FREEZER
MESSAGE: WANTED ANY INFO ON A REACH IN FROM TOP MANUFACTURED BY GENERAL MOTORS FOR FRIGIDAIRE MODLE #ICL-4S
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Post# 22347-9/22/2002-22:26 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: What is the make?
MESSAGE: Hi back at you Rich - and you are right. I somehow managed to forget the famous WCI moving tub and that agitator I described may well have been on a rear opening Frigidaire. They were awfully tough to keep up with.
I always thought of WCI as the "May Company" of washer manufacturers - different names but inside all the same and none of it great (sorry if I offend anyone with that comment). MAy Company has stores all over the US doing business under a variety of names - Filene's (Northeast), Kaufmann's (Pittsburgh area and upstate N.Y.) Strawbridge's (Philadelphia), Hecht's (Washington DC area and parts of the Southeast), Famous Barr (St. Louis area), LS Ayres (Cincinnati and Indianapolis area), Foley's (Southwest) and well, you get the idea. Inside the layouts, merchandise, shopping bags and even the smell is the same. Pretty frightening if you ask me. No room for individuality there!!
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Post# 22348-9/22/2002-22:27 ||| zzzzz (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: What is the make?
MESSAGE: The impostor, so-called "1-18" I mentioned in post #22302 also had the same lid style as the Gibson, but with a window in the style of the real Jet-Coned 1-18s.
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Post# 22349-9/22/2002-22:50 ||| bendix5 (oregon)
SUBJECT: RE: What is the make? (Franklin)
MESSAGE: Since I don't know much about Westinghouse Top loaders when you talk about Franklin are you talking about a certain type of transmission or was it a manufacturer outside WW that made the machines. Dan
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Post# 22350-9/22/2002-23:38 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: G.M. FRIGIDAIRE ICECREAM REACH IN FREEZER (L )
MESSAGE: "L" LINE ICE CREAM CABINETS:
IC - INDICATES ICE CREAM CABINETS
L - INDICATES THE MODEL YEAR (1950-52)
4 - INDICATES THE NUMBER OF ICE CREAM CANS IT CAN HOLD
S - INDICATES SINGLE ROW
I love the gold dress!
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Post# 22351-9/23/2002-00:37 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: 1956 Kenmore Freezer in Classifieds
MESSAGE: Check out the ad for the 1956 Kenmore freezer "Super Wall" in the classified section - it's very cool. The top design is similar in style to the same era Kenmore washers and dryers. Just like the washer in the Post A New Message screen - how fun is that?!
Here is the link to the pictures of the freezer.
LINK: http://www.agora-group.com/freezer/
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Post# 22352-9/23/2002-09:03 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday (1970s Gibson)
MESSAGE: Hi Glenn, no that Gibson wasn't for sale, it was being sold with the house, but I have had situtations like that before and I've usually been able to talk the new owner into letting me buy the machine. Thankfully, 99% of the time the new owner doesn't want a washer so old.
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Post# 22353-9/23/2002-09:05 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Oh I bet you're right Greg, it was the word "ANOTHER". Thanks for solving that mystery, too bad the appliance that came in that box wasn't still around.
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Post# 22354-9/23/2002-09:06 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: That refrigerator was very odd Bob, those weren't bins, but simply doors to two refrigerator sections and one freezer section.
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Post# 22355-9/23/2002-09:09 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 55 Filtrator Choked by Lint
MESSAGE: Yup, the first thing to do when you bring home a new filtrator is clean out all the lint in the unreachable areas of the outer drum. It really speeds up drying time and gets that old "grandma house" smell out of the dryer.
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Post# 22356-9/23/2002-09:15 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Jimmy's Maytag A3MP & Kelvinator Pictures
MESSAGE: I don't know about the year, but that could be correct Jimmy. The AMP didn't have the water level switch in the lid, the A2MP and A3MP did have the water level in the switch and the A3MP also had some other changes. The A4MP was made throughout the mid 50's as Maytag's lower price machine and it had a timed fill!
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Post# 22357-9/23/2002-09:22 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: What is the make? (Franklin)
MESSAGE: Hi Dan, Franklin Manufacturing made washer parts for different companies starting in the late 50's, such as Admiral, Marquette, Gibson, Kelvinator (in the 70's) etc, etc. Today's WCI-Frigidaire top loaders use almost the same transmission, the design has changed very little over the years. Franklin's were always budget brands and had no brake and the tub indexed. Instead of redesigning the tranny with a brake when new safety laws were introduced, they simply used a cheap lid lock.
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Post# 22358-9/23/2002-09:27 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Jimmy's Maytag A3MP & Kelvinator Pictures
MESSAGE: That answers the question I had. I guess I thought a Maytag was either an AMP or it wasn't. I thought "AMP" referred only to the mechanism, which I believe it does, but it was also used as part of the model no, of which there were apparently several over the years.
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Post# 22359-9/23/2002-10:15 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Jimmy's Maytag A3MP & Kelvinator Pictures (Maytag agitators and timers)
MESSAGE: What year did Maytag stop installing the float in the center of the agitator? The first models I remember were also the earliest machines I've seen that had the control knobs on a back panel rather than on the top front corners on either side of the lid. One model had a small dark green timer with white letters and the other had a larger knob which illuminated - dark background with white letters except for the '4' & '2' wash times which were in red letters. Both machines had black agitators with a silver cap and the word Maytag engraved into it. There was one model with the smaller dark green timer that had the very thin black agitator like the one used in Maytag's wringer washers.
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Post# 22360-9/23/2002-17:01 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: What is the make? (Kaufman's)
MESSAGE: Hi Anthony
I never realized that "Robinson's-May" (as they call it here in CA) was the same store as Kaufman's. I lived in Pittsburgh as a kid and remember than store. Learn something new everyday!
Rich
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Post# 22361-9/23/2002-18:03 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: What is the make? (Franklin)
MESSAGE: The only time I ever saw a Franklin run was at my great-grandma's. It was the 70s. A Marquette washer. I never watched it because the machine wouldn't even fill with water if I lifted the lid. It was still cool to look inside and the innards are the same as that Gibson washer. I would've tried to buy the machine just finally watch it run.
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Post# 22362-9/23/2002-18:32 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Was that the same house as the Hotpoint range?
Wow, what people don't save!
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Post# 22363-9/23/2002-18:35 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: My aunt had one that was all freezer (upright) with the separate bins like that - I believe it was a Crosley.
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Post# 22364-9/23/2002-18:38 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 55 Filtrator Choked by Lint
MESSAGE: I washed everything out and then let it run with no clothes to test it - grandma's aroma should be baked away by now!
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Post# 22365-9/23/2002-19:02 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: 55 Filtrator Choked by Lint
MESSAGE: Hopefully, the ozone lamp will sanitize the machine and make everything sunshine fresh...so Grandma's aroma will not be on the Gansky family laundry! ;-)
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Post# 22366-9/23/2002-19:35 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Was that the same house as the Hotpoint range?
Hi Greg, good guess, but no it was not.
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Post# 22367-9/23/2002-20:44 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: Philco Top loader
MESSAGE: I saw a very rare 56 or 57 Philco top loader in gansky's photo album (unrestored). This is one of the few brands from that time period I've never had the opportunity to see in operation. The tub and agitator remind me alot of a Speed Queen. Have you had any luck restoring this baby yet? Just curious.
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Post# 22368-9/23/2002-20:47 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: What is the make? (Kaufman's)
MESSAGE: Hey Rich - seems like May Company owns everything these days. They buy up troubled chains (Associated Dry Goods - which owned Lord and Taylor, Goldwater's, Hahne's, Robinson's, Powers Dry Goods and others)or certain high performing stores in desirable markets from financially strapped parent companies (Filene's and Foley's from Federated Dept. Stores).
I used to spend a lot of time in L.A. and remember when Robinson's was truly a "carriage trade" "A- list" store. But then I also remember the beautiful I. Magnin store on Wilshire Boulevard that was destroyed in the riots 10 years ago......
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Post# 22369-9/23/2002-20:51 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: POD
MESSAGE: Am I the only one who has had trouble seeing the P.O.D. for the past few days? Seems as if I can only view it 50% of the time...
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Post# 22370-9/23/2002-21:15 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD
MESSAGE: It seems to be acting peculiar. It changes itself not at 2 am central time, but sporadically.
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Post# 22371-9/23/2002-21:58 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: House brands
MESSAGE: Does anyone remember these two "house brands"? "Wizard" which was sold by Western Auto and "AMC" which was sold by Federated Department Stores such as Atlanta based Rich's. These two brands seem to have dissapeared in the early 70's. I don't recall any specifics about the AMC line but the Wizard washers were sort of a cross between a late 50's/early 60's Hotpoint, a Speed Queen and an Easy. Do any of you guys know who manufactured these machines? One Wizard model I remember had a Hotpoint tub and a four-vane agitator very similar to the one on the 56 Norge Timeline machine. It also agitated and spinned like a Hotpoint.
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Post# 22372-9/23/2002-22:10 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: Helical drive Maytag
MESSAGE: What exactly is a helical drive? Is it a different transmission than the one used on the 49-53? Also, this machine in gansky's photos is the only Maytag I've ever seen with a timed fill cycle indicated on the control knob.
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Post# 22373-9/23/2002-22:11 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: House brands (You're a Wizard, Harry....)
MESSAGE: We had a window AC made by Wizard and also a chest freezer. I remember they had washers and dryers too. Probably Franklin transmission. My aunt had a Wizard washing machine at her house in the country. Again, if I lifted the lid, machine stops. It made a loud clanking sound as it washed.
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Post# 22374-9/23/2002-22:16 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: House brands (Wizard and Catalina)
MESSAGE: Western Auto and/or White's Home and Auto.
One of my father's aunts had a brother worked for Western Auto, she had a Wizard washer and dryer.
Several families in my hometown had Catalina sets.
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Post# 22375-9/23/2002-22:18 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 55 Filtrator Choked by Lint
MESSAGE: Actually, the ozone bulb was smashed to bits! There is a replacement installed and ready to sanitize when it's put into service.
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Post# 22376-9/23/2002-22:19 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Then it must have been a washer or condenser dryer!!
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Post# 22377-9/23/2002-22:20 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: House brands (Wizard and Catalina)
MESSAGE: I always thought that the Wizard washer was made by Norge. Is that correct?
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Post# 22378-9/23/2002-22:21 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco Top loader
MESSAGE: Jimmy (filterflo) took this machine home with him last weekend. He was able to get it running, but it still needs a lot of work - all new rubber parts and probably some suspension work. At the speed Jimmy has been getting his new treasures running, it shouldn't be too long and we'll be seeing pictures of that 56 Philco doing it's first washload!
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Post# 22379-9/23/2002-22:36 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: House brands (Brand List)
MESSAGE: Franklin machines were sold under the brand names of Barton, Coronado, Dexter, Interprovincial, Marquette, One Minute, Phillips, Unico, Wizard, Zenith, Whitehouse, White, Firestone, Fedders, CO-OP, Capri, Constellation, Bradford, Ambassador, and AMC. Quite a large family of inbred cousins!
Earlier models of Barton, Zenith and Marquette were produced by Apex. (bouncing basket)
According to my 1960 Marcone parts books, Franklin Mfg. Company was formerly Beam Mfg. Company so the relationship to early models of Easy, Hotpoint and others was right on.
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Post# 22380-9/23/2002-22:37 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: House brands (You're a Wizard, Harry....)
MESSAGE: The Wizard my neighbor had did not have a safety switch. It operated on all cycles with the lid open. Also, it spinned in a counter-clockwise direction just like the Hotpoints and GE's whereas the Norge machines always spinned clockwise. It did have a timed fill on it like both Norge & Hotpoint.
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Post# 22381-9/23/2002-22:40 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: House brands (Brand List)
MESSAGE: Wow. That's amazing. Thanks for the info. The main thing I remember about that particular Wizard is how similar it was to my Mom's Hotpoint. Now I know why since they were cousins in the Franklin family.
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Post# 22382-9/23/2002-22:41 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: JACKPOT!!! (thanks Larry)
MESSAGE: I look forward to seeing your photos........
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Post# 22383-9/23/2002-22:42 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco Top loader
MESSAGE: Good luck with the 56 Philco, Jimmy. I can't wait to hear more about it and see some pics. This will be something new for me.
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Post# 22384-9/23/2002-22:46 ||| GregM (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: Dishwasher lovers
MESSAGE: Picked up a 1970? top-loading Whirlpool Dishwasher today about a two miles from my folks house and she even delivered it there for me in her truck. It has had very little use and is in near showroom condition. It is nothing fancy but I am glad to have it. Pictures to come soon.............
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Post# 22385-9/23/2002-22:49 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: PeterH770's 55 Kenmore
MESSAGE: Peter, I see in your profile you have a 55 Kenmore. Is it similar to the 53 I saw in some other photos? Any pics of it? Especially the agitator and main control knob. BTW, thanks again for showing me the pics of your 56 Frigidaire. I spent many a Saturday morning watching my Aunt's 56 make bubble cakes. Glad to see there's a fellow Atlantan here too. :)
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Post# 22386-9/24/2002-07:47 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Helical drive Maytag
MESSAGE: The Maytag "Helical Drive" washer was introduced in about 1957 and was simply a reversing motor drive system for their perforated tub washers, a completly different design than the earlier AMP styles. The Helical drive is still in production now, although not for much longer it looks like.
When running one direction, the drive pulley would turn the agitate shaft to the transmission creating agitation, when the motor reversed, the drive pulley/hub would ride up a screw (helix) engaging the spin shaft causing the entire mechanism and tub to spin. The AMP/solid tub earlier style used a spring and key on the spin shaft controlled by a solenoid to activate spin. The helical drive machines would pause between agitate and spin to allow the motor to reverse direction, the AMP activated a solenoid and spinning started immediately with the motor still running.
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Post# 22387-9/24/2002-07:52 ||| jaxcubb (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Dishwasher lovers
MESSAGE: That is too cool ! I would love to find a Lady Kenmore top load D/W with the top roto-rack (like the one we had when I was a child). Congrats!
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Post# 22388-9/24/2002-07:53 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: House brands (Brand List - Hotpoint Washers)
MESSAGE: The very first Hotpoint was mostly a Beam produced machine that had two motors, one for spin and one for agitate. It's interesting to see the evolution of the Hotpoint machines from the early Beam machine to the Coaxial (direct drive) tranny machines used in later years.
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Post# 22389-9/24/2002-07:56 ||| jaxcubb (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: Marquette Washer
MESSAGE: Did any of the Marquette washers ever use the same system as ABC/Kelvinator? I remember when I was a child that some friends of ours had a 60's era Marquette, and it had a fat agitator with only 3 or 4 straight fins. The agitator also had holes in it. I never saw this machine work, but it kinda looks like the Kelvinator's. Was I imagining this?
Mike
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Post# 22390-9/24/2002-08:17 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: What is the make? (Franklin)
MESSAGE: Hi Uni.
Were all Westinghouse Top Loaders based on the Franklin transmission?
There was a Westinghouse Top Loader assembled in Australia in the seventies (and possibly late sixties?) which had a spiral agitator in grey, perforated tub which turned one way whilst agitating (indexed?) , and on later versions had a lid lock.
From memory only top line model was sold, with two speed motor, infinite water level, four wash temps and lid lock.
I repaired one once, the spin bearing was gone, a mongrel of a job to replace, I had to remove the transmission and empty out the oil XXXtra messy) to replace a bearing (bush) and seal in the top of the transmission casing. The outer transmission casing was stationary, the transmission rotated inside it when spinning.
Does this sound like the Franklin design?
Thanks
Chris.
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Post# 22391-9/24/2002-08:22 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: More photos.........
MESSAGE: more to come........
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gregm978/lst?.view=t&.dir=/More+apps
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Post# 22392-9/24/2002-08:23 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Dishwasher lovers (thanks)
MESSAGE: I will try to get more pics on here soon...........thanks for your comments.................-gregm
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Post# 22393-9/24/2002-08:29 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: POD 600 times a minute?
MESSAGE: What year is this? How did that agitator work? back and forth? I would love to see one in action and a better look at the agitator itself to see its shape and design..........very, very cool looking machines..............
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Post# 22394-9/24/2002-09:00 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Helical drive Maytag
MESSAGE: Thanks for the info! I remember my next door neighbor's 49 AMP going directly into spin without pausing. I'm still surprised at seeing the timed fill cycle on the control knob of that early Helical.
You say Maytag probably won't use the Helical drive much longer. Have you heard what they are replacing it with? Perhaps reintroducing the AMP?
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Post# 22395-9/24/2002-09:10 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: House brands (Brand List - Hotpoint Washers)
MESSAGE: We had two Hotpoints during my childhood. One was a mid 50's model with the black long neck agitator (red cap on top). The control knob sat almost flat on the right side of the back panel and there was a flurorecent lamp that illuminated the back panel. The second one was about a 64 model with the black 3-finned swirl agitator that also acted as a lint filter much like the Norge agitator. I much prefered these Hotpoints to the later models when they simply became stripped down GE's. Even thougn Hotpoint was a subsidiary of GE they still had their own identity. Why did GE suddenly turn Hotpoints into little clones in the 70's?
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Post# 22396-9/24/2002-09:11 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: House brands (Brand List - Hotpoint Washers)
MESSAGE: One more thing. The 50's and 60's Hotpoints had great overflo rinses too.
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Post# 22397-9/24/2002-09:22 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: House brands (Brand List - Hotpoint Washers)
MESSAGE: I grew up with 2 Hotpoint washers
My mothers 1st one was a 54 or 55 that had the removeable lid
Their is a pic in the most wanted appliances
Peter
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Post# 22398-9/24/2002-09:57 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: House brands (Brand List - Hotpoint Washers)
MESSAGE: The model we had is in these pics. It's the white model to the left of the dark grey machine. It's also the first of the ones in these photos where the lid is hinged on the left instead of the back. There is some red trim on the back panel as well. Does anyone know what year this model is? I'm guessing around a 57.
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Post# 22399-9/24/2002-10:03 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: What is the make? (Westy and Franklin were Different)
MESSAGE: Hi Chris,
No I believe Westinghouse Top Loader tranny was similar in operation, but not the same design as the Franklin transmission. Blackstone also used a similar tranny, in the 1970's, to the Frainklin, but again it was a different design.
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Post# 22400-9/24/2002-10:11 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: More photos.........
MESSAGE: Wonderful pictures Greg, looks like your acquiring quite a nice collection. Congrats on the new Whirlpool dishwasher too!
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Post# 22401-9/24/2002-10:17 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 600 times a minute? (No Trapping or Slapping)
MESSAGE: This is the Top-of-the-Line 1959 Philco Automagic. And remember with a Philco there's no "Trapping or Slapping". Sorry Jetcone, no slapping here :).
Here is a video of just the agitator running without the tub...
LINK: http://216.88.255.195/PhilcoAutoMagicWithoutTub.mpg
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Post# 22402-9/24/2002-11:19 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: More photos.........
MESSAGE: Thank you Greg for sharing the pictures, you have some very nice pieces and how clairvoyant to put you in front of the dishwasher in 1967! I'm sure it will help you find even more treasures.
Louis
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Post# 22403-9/24/2002-11:40 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: More photos......... (More photos)
MESSAGE: What Great Photos!
Peter
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Post# 22404-9/24/2002-12:18 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: House brands (Brand List - Hotpoint Washers)
MESSAGE: That Hotpoint is a 55 same yr as mine only you had the TOL model
Peter
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Post# 22405-9/24/2002-13:14 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT: RE: More photos......... (Pictures won't load!! Darn!!!)
MESSAGE: Unfortunately, the photos wouldn't open for me; just that annoying little red "X" at the top of each blank photo space. I see that others have accessed them. I'm looking forward to seeing your collection.
Thanks! Duane
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Post# 22406-9/24/2002-13:19 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT: RE: More photos......... (Spoke Too Soon...)
MESSAGE: Now the pictures come up. Cool! Great stove, washers and fridges.
Duane
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Post# 22407-9/24/2002-14:47 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: More photos.........
MESSAGE: Thanks for posting your pictures, Greg. You have a whole vintage kitchen going!!
Rich
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Post# 22408-9/24/2002-16:03 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: House brands (Brand List - Hotpoint Washers)
MESSAGE: It's funny that my Mom had a 55 Hotpoint because my great aunt also had a 55 GE filterflo which we used for many years after my parents sold our house and we moved into my great aunt's after her death. That 55 GE was still going strong during my high school years and it was already five years old when I was born. It finally got to where it wouldn't hardly spin anymore so my parents replaced it with a Westinghouse which I hated. That mid 70's top-loading Westy gave us nothing but problems and died an early death after an eight year life filled with numerous visits from the repairman. Finally, in 1983, they bought a Maytag which is now owned by a friend of mine and still going strong.
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Post# 22409-9/24/2002-16:12 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Unfortunate demise of GM Frigidaire appliances (History Lesson)
MESSAGE: REALLY, how did it shred? Them what agitator?
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Post# 22410-9/24/2002-16:29 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Downy Commercial question.
MESSAGE: In the downy commercial with the Maytag washer, On the inside what does that agiator look like? I don't think that looks like a Maytag agitator at all. To me it looks like a Norge but I am not sure. Does anyone on know the answer to any of these questions? I am certainly confused. Thanks in advance!
Best Washes
-Jamie-
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Post# 22411-9/24/2002-16:49 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: House brands (Brand List - Hotpoint Washers)
MESSAGE: At that time the Hotpoint designs and the GE designs were completly different. Even though the Hotpoints were nice washers - they were not made to last. I think we had ours until 61.
I like many types of washers - but my favorate will always be GM Frigidaire.
Peter
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Post# 22412-9/24/2002-16:49 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Unfortunate demise of GM Frigidaire appliances (History Lesson)
MESSAGE: Jamie, some people unfortunately have had issues with excess fabric wear using direct drive, fast agitation machines with dual agitators. Hence they have been dubbed "Shredmore", "Ripmore" and various other things.
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Post# 22413-9/24/2002-17:13 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: House brands (Brand List - Hotpoint Washers)
MESSAGE: Our 55 Hotpoint lasted till about 63 then we got another Hotpoint which we used till we moved to the house with the 55 GE. Like the 55 GE, the 55 Hotpoint eventually stopped working on the spin cycle.
I like both the GM Frigidaires and the 50's and 60's Kenmores the best. They have always been the most fun.
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Post# 22414-9/24/2002-17:18 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Unfortunate demise of GM Frigidaire appliances (History Lesson)
MESSAGE: Right you are, Scott. When my Kenmore 70 series direct drive dual-action (circa 1987 or 88) had a motor lock-up two years ago I was delighted to rid myself of it's unsightly pressence. I replaced it with a Kenmore frontloader which so far I'm very pleased with. And my cat likes it too. He watches the clothes tumble thru the glass window - that is when I'm not blocking his view watching it myself.
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Post# 22415-9/24/2002-17:27 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Unfortunate demise of GM Frigidaire appliances (History Lesson)
MESSAGE: I am heartened to know that someone else's cat is facinated with FL washer! Just to annoy the old one, Zeus, I will wash a light load with one red or bright item. Makes him crazy! I really like the low speed spins, who knew a cat could rotate his head that fast?
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Post# 22416-9/24/2002-17:36 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 600 times a minute? (No Trapping or Slapping( questions ))
MESSAGE: Thanks Robert for your comments on my pics and I love the concept of the Philco agitator, reminds me a bit of the ABC or Kelvinator. Did it wash well? Was it a noisy machine? Did it circulate the clothes from top to bottom? Thanks for sharing the video :) ............
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Post# 22417-9/24/2002-17:37 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: More photos......... (thanks)
MESSAGE: thanks for your comments Louis :), I sure hope to get one of those Kitchen Aid portable top-loading dishwashers someday....
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Post# 22418-9/24/2002-17:40 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: More photos......... (More photos (glad you enjoyed))
MESSAGE: thanks Pete...
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Post# 22419-9/24/2002-18:33 ||| cleanteamofny (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: The pride and joy of a Kenmore.......
MESSAGE: Ok, I've just uploaded a few pics from my basement!
I still have to learn how to use this digital camera for clearer pictures and I hope all of you like these 1970's classics!
More to follow when I get a chance!
LINK: http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/lr9711/lst?.dir=/Vintage+appliances+found+in+NY/My+new+collection&.order=&.view=l&.src=bc&.done=http%3a//briefcase.yahoo.com/
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Post# 22420-9/24/2002-18:49 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: More photos.........
MESSAGE: Wow - what neat things you've found, I love them all, but the pink GE fridge is to die for!
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Post# 22421-9/24/2002-18:59 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: House brands (Brand List - Hotpoint Washers)
MESSAGE: GE started using their dryers in the Hotpoint line sometime in the early 70's, the washers followed in about 1974. I'm sure the reason was the same for the demise of the Hotpoint desings as it was for all the others, cost. Why have two factories, labor, suppliers and vendors, engineering and design staff, service training and publications, on and on, when you can make the Hotpoint a GE clone far cheaper. It's sad sometimes, but the reality in a free market economy.
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Post# 22422-9/24/2002-19:39 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: The pride and joy of a Kenmore.......
MESSAGE: Very neat find - I always liked the KM and WP portables from this era.
Thanks for the pictures!
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Post# 22423-9/24/2002-20:56 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 600 times a minute? (No Trapping or Slapping( questions ))
MESSAGE: Hi - Greg. Those Philco washers were pretty remarkable for the time. Aside from being very nicely styled and glamorous, they were remarkably quiet machines. Robert has the Automagic as you know and I never heard that exact model operating. But later versions of the Philco washer - the Miss America line from the early 60's were pretty much the same machine. One of my neighbors had one and it just hummed along with an occasional splashing noise . Even spin was quiet - just a slightly higher hum. No big clanks and bangs.
As far as the agitation goes, I guess the best way to explain it is that the agitator purpose was to move the water through the clothes by creating fast moving currents, rather than move the clothes through the water. The clothes did actually move a bit but were not swished back and forth or rolled over . This was supposedly much gentler treatment for the clothes and was actually very effective. If you have seen the "Calypso" wash motion featured on the Whirlpools and Sears machines, the rotating wash plate resembles that type of cleaning action.
Another of my neighbors had that exact Automagic dryer pictuerd in the ad and it was very impressive. Great control panel (had to be 8 inches high), window door and great sound. What more could you ask??
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Post# 22424-9/24/2002-21:49 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Dishwasher lovers
MESSAGE: Congrats gret. I loved those old WP top loaders. Had a buddy in college, which meant it was new at the time, who lived at home while he went to college. His parents lived in a neat old house and it had all WP appliances. I always had to peak in that dishwasher everytime I went over there. Was so cool. Can't wait to see pics.
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Post# 22425-9/24/2002-22:04 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: More photos.........
MESSAGE: Greg, thanks for the pics. I love the 61 GE. The 48 hotpoint range is awesome. Interesting variation on the common fridge arrangement for the norge (particularly the freezer). You wwere such a cutie in 1967!!! Is that a KA toploading DW is spy right there???
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Post# 22426-9/24/2002-22:06 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Downy Commercial question. (See-Thru Wringer Washers)
MESSAGE: Hi Jamie, you are a very observant young man to catch the fact that the agitator shown in the Downy commercial is definitely not a Maytag agitator. No one really knows what that is, but here is what I think it might be. In the 1940's Maytag had made a see-thru wringer washer like the one I have in my collection to be used as demo machines in appliance stores. Then in the mid and late 1950's Kenmore had taken one of their round wringer washers and turned that into a see-thru washer for demonstrations in the Sears stores. I believe the washer that was used to film the underwater action could very well have been one of these see-thru Kenmore wringer washers.
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Post# 22427-9/24/2002-22:09 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 600 times a minute? (No Trapping or Slapping( questions ))
MESSAGE: Did it wash well? Unfortuantely not.
Was it a nosiy machine? No, but the snubber on my machine is very noisy at the moment, and I need to go back in there and fix that issue on the '59, otherwise it works perfectly, if you can stand the noise during spin.
Did it circulate the clothes from top to bottom? Sort of, but very slowly.
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Post# 22428-9/24/2002-22:10 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The pride and joy of a Kenmore.......
MESSAGE: Thanks Larry, wonderful Photos, when you get a chance can we see the Norge you found last year?
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Post# 22429-9/24/2002-22:13 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: I Have A Real Treat For Everyone!!
MESSAGE: A big thanks goes out to Applianceville member Bendixman Bruce who was kind enough to send me three video tapes full of vintage detergent commercials. THANKS BRUCE!!!! Over the course of the next couple of weeks I will digitize some of the best of these commercials and add them to our video library.
Tonight I added two commercials for AD Detergent. You'll find them in the video library under the "Vintage Soap, Detergent and Additive Television Commercials" Section. The first commercial features three 1955 or 1956 Bendix Front Loaders with the flip down Tip-Top Laundry Guide and Front-Row Controls! The second commercial is a wonderful example of mid 1950's advertising animation. Both are simply fabulous, and with a hint of organ music at the end you know that these commercials most likely came from a daytime soap opera or game show on one of the three major television networks then.
Thanks you so much again Bruce! Stay tuned everyone, more to come.
LINK: http://www.classicappliances.com/vintage_video.htm
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Post# 22430-9/24/2002-22:16 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Unfortunate demise of GM Frigidaire appliances (History Lesson)
MESSAGE: Lesto, a motor lock-up? How'd that happen? You lucky dawg you. My 1986 series 90 LK direct drive is still going strong. And still ripping occassionally, although I do most loads on Knit/Delicate. Smart cat!!! Lyves to watch the washer. Glad to know there's another guy here watching the laundry channel on their front loader LOL.
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Post# 22431-9/24/2002-22:21 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Kaiser Water Powered Dishwasher found in Seattle
MESSAGE: If anyone is interested in a very RARE, very post war, dishwasher...
It was suggested to me that I contact you about a dishwasher that is located in a home my son just purchased. It is a 1946/47 Kaiser Dishwasher - still mounted in the counter.
We are wondering if there would be anybody interested in this appliance (or entire counter). From what we can tell this dishwasher was probably water powered and seems to be intact - but really don't have any idea how to use it - or if it would run or not.
We felt it was so unique that we would not want to simply throw it in the trash.
The house also has a Coldspot Refrigerator that is in working condition - actually my son is using it. Don't think it is quite as old or that unique.
If you think there is somebody who would want to pay something for this dishwasher please let me know approx. value, if any and I will run an ad for it. If not, let us know if there would be some museum or historian who would be interested in it. I hate to see this item trashed as it is so very unique (at least to me).
Thanks for your help.
Karen Anderson
CONTACT KAREN AT: bicycles@mindspring.com
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Post# 22432-9/24/2002-22:24 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: The pride and joy of a Kenmore.......
MESSAGE: Larry, I love the pics. Thanks for taking pics of the portable's cycle dial. Also, the big Kenmore was that control panel's design successor to the Kenmore 800 we had from 1970 or 1971. That mahcine you have there was pretty terrific too. It had the 4 minute drain period though. My best friend from high-school's mom replaced her early 1960s alphabet kenmore with that machine.
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Post# 22433-9/24/2002-22:45 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: I Have A Real Treat For Everyone!! (wonderful videos and pictures)
MESSAGE: Thanks to Uni and Bruce for sharing and posting the videos, and to Greg and Larry for the pictures! I have enjoyed them all immensely.
Larry, the first townhome we looked at before moving and didn't get had a matched pair like the harvest gold washer in your picture, only in white, in showroom condition. I lament not getting that townhome mainly because of their presence!
Greg, LOVE the GE pink bottom freezer fridge, and all your other goodies too! Can't wait to see your latest dishwasher! Is it the one with the control panel on the back, like a washing machine? Enjoy!
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Post# 22434-9/25/2002-01:22 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Kaiser Water Powered Dishwasher found in Seattle
MESSAGE: Do we have any pictures of this dishwasher? Sounds interesting, but I see pre-rinsing in the new owner's future ;-)
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Post# 22435-9/25/2002-01:23 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: I Have A Real Treat For Everyone!!
MESSAGE: Thanks for the new commercials - they are great! I love the '56 Bendix washers - what fun it would be to have three in a row all sloshing away!
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Post# 22436-9/25/2002-06:51 ||| Bendixman (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: I Have A Real Treat For Everyone!! (Video Tapes)
MESSAGE: Robert, Glad you got the tapes I hope everyone enjoys them as much as I do. There is a Bendix Duomatic commercial for Clorox that the machine has a dispenser that holds 2 weeks worth of Clorox. Pretty neat. Also does anyone remember Blue Dot Duz detergent??? I do and have a box but you don't find many around. Again everyone enjoy the video commercials.
Bruce aka Bendixman
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Post# 22437-9/25/2002-07:21 ||| Gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: The pride and joy of a Kenmore....... (thanks for sharing pics :) ...)
MESSAGE: my grandmother had a washer just like that...........
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Post# 22438-9/25/2002-07:21 ||| cycla-fabric (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: The pride and joy of a Kenmore....... (Great Kenmore Machines)
MESSAGE: What great pictures of the Kenmores, they look great and they are favorites of mine. My mom has and still uses the matching dryer to your Kenmore with the roto swirl, and it is in great shape. She bought it in 1972 with only one repair so far, but a great machine. Good luck with the machines they look great!!!!
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Post# 22439-9/25/2002-07:23 ||| Gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 600 times a minute? (No Trapping or Slapping( questions )-thanks!)
MESSAGE: thanks for the info, sounds pretty cool, probably not to many of those around............
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Post# 22440-9/25/2002-07:27 ||| Gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: More photos......... (yes its a KA)
MESSAGE: that is one of my dream machines to find a top-loading Kitchen Aid dishwasher like my mom had in the photo. I am not sure what year it is?? late fifties or early sixties......It was shortly after that photo thought she bought avocado green Philco FORD appliances for the kitchen in 1969. :( ......
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Post# 22441-9/25/2002-07:32 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: I Have A Real Treat For Everyone!! (do you take requests?)
MESSAGE: If you have any Tide or Downy commercials from the mid-to-late 70s I'd like to see it.
Of course, if you have the Calgon commercial (with the GE) please upload!
Thanks.
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Post# 22442-9/25/2002-07:35 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: The pride and joy of a Kenmore....... (YAY!)
MESSAGE: I'm sure all they need is a good cleaning and a few repairs and they'll be good as new.
You have the portable I really want. With the standard tub and the str8 vane agitator. Of course, Rotoswirl must go in the machine.
That 24" Kenmore at the convention was fun. I think I have video of both the RotoSwirl and the straight vane going.
The RS of course churns the clothes good and fast. Nothing boring about it. The str8 vane just moves them around a little.
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Post# 22443-9/25/2002-07:37 ||| Gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: I Have A Real Treat For Everyone!! (thank you Bruce and Robert)
MESSAGE: thanks for the videos..........
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Post# 22444-9/25/2002-08:37 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Unfortunate demise of GM Frigidaire appliances (History Lesson)
MESSAGE: It was just after the final rinse. The machine was about to start draining when the motor locked up and the smell of burning bearings filled the air. Naturally I had a load of heavy bath towels in it and you can guess how much fun it was wringing those out. But it was worth it to get rid of a machine I hated so much. The front loader is super!
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Post# 22445-9/25/2002-09:34 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: I Have A Real Treat For Everyone!! (do you take requests?)
MESSAGE: Sorry Jason, but I do not have any commercials from that late, most of the stuff I have ranges from the late fourties through the sixties. I would love to find the mid to late 1970's 1-18 Frigidaire commercial, if anyone knows where to find this commercial on 16mm film or on VHS/DVD/CD-R please let me know.
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Post# 22446-9/25/2002-10:11 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: PeterH770's 55 Kenmore
MESSAGE: Hey Les,
No, I only have the '55 Kenmore. Any reference in the albums about a 53 was a typo! The machine is in pieces; I'm awaiting for my prayers to be answered for 36 hour days and 9 day weeks!
There's a few of us in the ATL area. Next time we attempt to get together, we'll drop you a line. The next time we get together will be at my laundromat to use the new, HUGE Wascomats I got!
-ph
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Post# 22447-9/25/2002-10:37 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Downy Commercial question. (Mystery agitator guess)
MESSAGE: My guess was that it was an early high-vane Speed Queen agitator, becuase of the angle of the high vanes and the cap...
-ph
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Post# 22448-9/25/2002-10:40 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: The pride and joy of a Kenmore.......
MESSAGE: Check your model number on the Harvest Gold washer. I think it will be a 1972.
-ph
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Post# 22449-9/25/2002-13:04 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: PeterH770's 55 Kenmore
MESSAGE: The 53 and 55 were very similar weren't they? I think they just changed the background color of the timer a little bit. I hope you get the 55 up and running in the near future. I'd love to see it.
I'd love to join you Atlanta guys for your next wash-in. Maybe I can locate the owner's manual to our old 55 GE filterflo by then. If so, I'll bring it along. I think I still have it in a box up in my attic.
Les
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Post# 22450-9/25/2002-15:17 ||| cleanteamofny (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: The pride and joy of a Kenmore.......
MESSAGE: I will do it A.S.A.P.
Thanks everyone!
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Post# 22451-9/25/2002-15:19 ||| cleanteamofny (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: More photos......... (yes its a KA)
MESSAGE: Was this photo of the KA a POD or it is in someone photo album?
I didn't get to see it.... :-((
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Post# 22452-9/25/2002-15:31 ||| cleanteamofny (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: The pride and joy of a Kenmore....... (YAY!)
MESSAGE: After all these years, I didn't know the Roto Swirl had more power than the straight vane.
Wow, I can't wait to check it out!
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Post# 22453-9/25/2002-15:36 ||| cleanteamofny (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: More photos.........
MESSAGE: Greg,
Did you get that Easy Spin dryer from Ebay two or three weeks ago?
And how well does it roll the clothes over?
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Post# 22454-9/25/2002-17:01 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: I Have A Real Treat For Everyone!! (do you take requests?)
MESSAGE: I have done some searching here, I have a friend who produces the news for one of our local stations. He said they have nothing that old left anymore so I called the other two stations and they don't have them either. One day we'll find it!
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Post# 22455-9/25/2002-18:24 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: Mid 70's gold Lady Kenmore
MESSAGE: There is a gold Lady Kenmore washer,albeit in less than great shape, for sale at the thrift store on Green St. in Conyers, GA. It seems to be all there. Someone has pulled the dispenser bezels off but they are in tub right next to RotoSwirl. Looks like matching dryer in behind building but I don't think it's worth trying to save. Hope this helps someone in Atlanta
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Post# 22456-9/25/2002-18:44 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: More photos......... (yes its a KA(here is the photo))
MESSAGE: its just little old me at the age of three, with my sister and one of my dream machines that my mom use to have.....
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gregm978/vwp?.dir=/More+apps&.src=ph&.dnm=me+in+1967.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gregm978/lst%3f%26.dir=/More%2bapps%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 22457-9/25/2002-18:47 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: More photos......... (not on ebay)
MESSAGE: No, I bought it from Mike Arnold in Troy, NY. It works great and does turn the clothes over somewhat, it has a nice rugged yet gentle agitator action.......I didn't even know there was an EASY washer on ebay..........
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Post# 22458-9/25/2002-18:49 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: Did BENDIX on ebay ever sell??
MESSAGE: I havent really payed attention but did that bendix front loader from the late thirties or early forties ever sell , if I remember correctly the entry bid was around $1,000 smackaroos..........
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Post# 22459-9/25/2002-18:53 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: I Have A Real Treat For Everyone!!
MESSAGE: It reminded me of the Bendix self-serve laundry in Buffalo NY we would do our wash in when visiting my uncle. This would have been early 60's.
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Post# 22460-9/25/2002-18:55 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: the Norge agitating noise sounds familiar...
MESSAGE: That agitating noise is what my babysitters 1981 Maytag sounds like! Is it because Maytag bought Norge eventually? What did a Maytag sound like before they bought Norge?
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Post# 22461-9/25/2002-19:06 ||| cleanteamofny (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: More photos......... (not on ebay)
MESSAGE: Yes, it was on out west and it was sold for $5.00 to the lone soul winner....
I wish I could afford the shipping charges or else I would have taken it home!
Oh well, there maybe another one washing about on Ebay soon!
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Post# 22462-9/25/2002-19:23 ||| cleanteamofny (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: The pride and joy of a Kenmore....... ((Norge photos))
MESSAGE: I've added just three pictures of the solid basket Norge two cycle washer.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/lr9711/vwp?.dir=/Vintage+appliances+found+in+NY/My+new+collection&.dnm=Norge+2+cycles.jpg&.src=ph&.view=l&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/lr9711/lst%3f%26.dir=/Vintage%2bappliances%2bfound%2bin%2bNY/My%2bnew%2bcollection%26.src=ph%26.view=l
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Post# 22463-9/25/2002-20:03 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: EASY washers for sale in MAss
MESSAGE: the following three items are at the attached link and under the "hobbies/collectibles/antiques" section; but to make it easier i just listed them here below:
1)EASY COPPER BOWL WASHING MACH R-93297. Patent in the US March 26, 1912. Great cond. $1000/bo; (New Bedford) 508-996-4044 (cc)m
2)1934 EASY SPIN DRY WASHING MACH. Working cond w/orig papers. $400; Call Betty. (Boylston) 508-869-2965 m
3)1940 EASY SPIN DRY WASHING MACH. Working cond. $275; Call Betty. (Boylston) 508-869-2965 m
LINK: http://www.thewantad.com/default.asp
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Post# 22464-9/25/2002-20:11 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: I have a Pump Assembly for NORGE
MESSAGE: Would this help anyone? maybe I should put it on ebay? Its in the original box and says "Pump assembly for Norge 34-5088 replaces 34-2283.....
-gregm, i can be reached at gregm978@aol.com also........
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Post# 22465-9/25/2002-21:06 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: The pride and joy of a Kenmore....... ((Norge photos))
MESSAGE: Larry, great pics. And as usual, I'm partial to the control panel shots. You DO have your work cut out for ya.
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Post# 22466-9/25/2002-22:14 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: The pride and joy of a Kenmore....... ((Norge photos))
MESSAGE: That's a very cool washer - do you know what year that is?
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Post# 22467-9/26/2002-11:06 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: The pride and joy of a Kenmore....... ((Norge photos))
MESSAGE: I was going to ask the same question. I know of one model that had the cycle letters and numbers written on the dial and the pointer was stationary. Three cycles. Normal and soak in black letters, short cycle in red. It had the Norge lint filter agitator and solid tub. Two speed motor. I think it came a little later after the 56 timeline model. Probably around 59 or 60. I believe the agitator was almost like the lint filter one in the video at the museum except this model had a three vane agitator instead of four.
Les
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Post# 22468-9/26/2002-11:24 ||| Davy1063 (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: 24" Synchro-Swing Mechanism
MESSAGE: What exactly is it?
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Post# 22469-9/26/2002-12:30 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: 24" Synchro-Swing Mechanism
MESSAGE: Hey Dave,
It's the mechanism in the 24" Frigidaire washer that used the one piece Agi-tub to clean the clothes. The mechanism worked like a string wrapped around a pencil. The pulleys would pull the string back and forth, turning the Agi-tub back and forth for washing. Spinning was done with a classic Frigidaire roller assembly. Have a look at the link below for pics of the one I'm working on.
-ph
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/lst?.dir=/Skinny+Mini&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/
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Post# 22470-9/26/2002-13:24 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: Pic of day
MESSAGE: I love the picture of the day. That Westinghouse pair is a real beauty.
Speaking of pics, isn't the Kenmore shown here on the "post message" page the same 57 Lady Kenmore that was recently restored by one of you guys?
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Post# 22471-9/26/2002-13:28 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: Norge photos
MESSAGE: I forgot to mention in my earlier desription of the Norge one of my neighbors had that this 3-cycle model did not have a timed fill on the control knob like most Norges did. The normal cycle washed up to 8 minutes and to start the machine you turned the knob to the "8". On the short cycle you started it on the 'h' of the word 'wash'. The speed was controled on a separate knob next to the water temperature control. You could choose 4 selections:
Nornal wash and spin, normal wash w/ slow spin, slow wash with normal spin and slow wash & spin. Does this model ring a bell with any of you Norge experts?
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Post# 22472-9/26/2002-16:32 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of day (The Westinghouse Computer Laundry Pair.......)
MESSAGE: Lesto:
I think I have to agree. That Westinghouse pair sure did look like a cutting edge pair for its time.
--Charles--
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Post# 22473-9/26/2002-16:44 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: the Norge agitating noise sounds familiar... (Really!)
MESSAGE: Really! I want to know! I am confused!
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Post# 22474-9/26/2002-18:17 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: the Norge agitating noise sounds familiar... (Really!)
MESSAGE: Hi Jamie - If your babysitter has an '81 Maytag, that is what the orginal Maytag sounded like. In the later 80's, Maytag changed the design of their transmission to the faster, shorter stroke that they are still using now in the "real" Maytag machines. The Atlantis and Performa (plastic tub) machines are Norge designs.
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Post# 22475-9/26/2002-19:43 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: the Norge agitating noise sounds familiar... (Really!)
MESSAGE: While I'm not a big Maytag fan, I like the sound. It's alot quieter than the Norge machine. My mom has the "short-stroke" transmission with the original turquiose agitator. It moves clothes ok but not really great. It spins at a leisurely 550rpm and takes FOR EVER to dry in a FrigiWCI dryer (I did NOT choose it when she bought it).
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Post# 22476-9/26/2002-20:05 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: the Norge agitating noise sounds familiar... (Really! (hope you stayed dry!))
MESSAGE: A little off topic, but I hope you weather hurrican Isadora ok, Jason. I bet there will be plenty of muddy laundry to do, preferably in a machine that can handle sand!
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Post# 22477-9/26/2002-21:13 ||| davy1063 (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: 24" Synchro-Swing Mechanism
MESSAGE: OK, now I understand. Thanks Pete!
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Post# 22478-9/26/2002-21:16 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Unfortunate demise of GM Frigidaire appliances (History Lesson)
MESSAGE: My cat Monty occasionally watches the Asko if I leave the door down. My other cat Millie loves warm places and warms her bottom over the flue of our lpg fridge. (it has a tube at the back over the burner, which she holds her tail over to warm up on cold days). This morning she made an important discovery - when the Frigidaire is washing, the aluminium lid is comfortably warm to curl up on. The machine running didn't seem to bother her, she looked like a very happy girl.
Chris.
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Post# 22479-9/26/2002-21:19 ||| davy1063 (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: A Challenge...
MESSAGE: to create a screensaver similar to the ebay video of the '65 rollermatic wash cycle (or any other brand). It would definitely be a coversation piece.
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Post# 22480-9/26/2002-21:57 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Unfortunate demise of GM Frigidaire appliances (History Lesson)
MESSAGE: My cats sometimes like to rest in front of the fridge, because of the warm air that blows out of the bottom from the condenser. They did this with the '78 GE side by side. One had a terminal illness so I put a little carpeting there for him so he'd be more comfortable in his last days. I replaced the GE with a modern Whirlpool but it still puts out some warmpth that the other cat appreciates. It's a little bigger but uses 1/3 of the electricity the vintage fridge used.
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Post# 22481-9/26/2002-22:25 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: the Norge agitating noise sounds familiar... (Really! (hope you stayed dry!))
MESSAGE: Well, the Land Of Rust got some flooding but not at my house. My main worry was the wind. I didn't stay in the trailer during the storm because I thought it would've been alot worse. Fortunately it weakened as it hit land. It was cool having the day off though. Sir Frigemore and Little Lady are high'n'dry.
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Post# 22482-9/26/2002-22:33 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Unfortunate demise of GM Frigidaire appliances (cats)
MESSAGE: Cats LOVE appliances. My mom's cat loved the 1967 Kenmore dryer because of the heat and I guess the constant hum. If the washer was running she'd sleep on it too. Sound and vibration didn't scare her at all. Cats must think appliance noises are soothing (like us humans).
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Post# 22483-9/26/2002-22:37 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of day (The Westinghouse Computer Laundry Pair.......)
MESSAGE: Like a front load version of the 59 Lady K all pushbutton. Now that is one sweet machine. Push button convenience mixed with Kenmore magic.
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Post# 22484-9/26/2002-22:39 ||| Cleanupwoman (Norway,Maine USA)
SUBJECT: Norge Wringer Washer
MESSAGE: I was wondering if anyone out there could help me with some pricing info. I am interested in purchasing a Norge Wringer Washer, white & aqua color from (best guess?)the late 50's or early 60's.It appears to be in fairly good shape. The asking price is $250...I want to make an offer on this machine but $250 seems a bit pricey to me. Am I off base here?
Thanks for any insight you folks can give me.
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Post# 22485-9/26/2002-22:41 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of day (The Westinghouse Computer Laundry Pair.......)
MESSAGE: I'm glad I finally got to see a great pic and ad for this washer. Loved the panel detail. Would love to see a comparable dryer ad. The closest I'd gotten to this machine before was the cake Cliff made for the convention.
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Post# 22486-9/26/2002-22:42 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Unfortunate demise of GM Frigidaire appliances (cats)
MESSAGE: I am going to post my opinions on cats and appliances in the sandbox.
I am sure you can all guess what they already are...
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Post# 22487-9/26/2002-22:45 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: the Norge agitating noise sounds familiar... (Really! (hope you stayed dry!))
MESSAGE: Jason, Im'm so greatly relieved. You've been in my thoughts all day. I was hoping you'd not stay in the trailer.
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Post# 22488-9/26/2002-22:45 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: A Challenge...
MESSAGE: I agree! I've tried to find a screen saver program that will run video files, it would be great to hear(and watch) some vintage washing videos and commercials playing while the computer is idle.
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Post# 22489-9/26/2002-22:46 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of day (The Westinghouse Computer Laundry Pair.......(Push Buttons))
MESSAGE: That Westy is one Handsome machine.
I love all push buttons models. Its a shame that so many manufactures are not using buttons anymore, in favour of all knobs. I even hear that the atlantish is now going to have knobs. That Atlantis is a beautiful mahine and now they are going to spoil it.
My Favourote Simpson machines are the all button programmed models from the late 60's and the rocker switches from the seventies.
BTW what is with this woman on the reply screen? She reminds me of my old school headmistress and she scares me!
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Post# 22490-9/26/2002-23:04 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of day (The Westinghouse Computer Laundry Pair.......(Push Buttons))
MESSAGE: That's the Frigidaire Queen!
A friend once told me that you can always spot a hair stylist in a crowd - they will be the only one in gold shoes!
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Post# 22491-9/26/2002-23:27 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Household Wonders On The History Channel
MESSAGE: Tomorrow night (Friday) is the History Channel's episode of "Modern Marvels" entitled "Household Wonders" with video and history of household appliances. 10PM eastern time.
I saw a clip of the Mother Takes a Holiday film from Whirlpool - there will be laundry!!
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Post# 22492-9/27/2002-06:33 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of day (The Westinghouse Computer Laundry Pair.......(Push Buttons))
MESSAGE: I sure agree with you guys. The POD Westinghouse set is just plain beautiful. Anyone have any idea of what year they might have been. Unusual color too. Terry
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Post# 22493-9/27/2002-07:31 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of day (The Westinghouse Computer Laundry Pair.......(Push Buttons))
MESSAGE: And here's the owner's manual!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=716762911
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Post# 22494-9/27/2002-08:49 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Wringer Washer
MESSAGE: Most wringer washers I see at estate sales are priced between $25 and $50.
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Post# 22495-9/27/2002-08:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of day (The Westinghouse Computer Laundry Pair.......(Push Buttons))
MESSAGE: Why she's the Frigidaire Queen Arrrooohh! Note the shape of the crown.
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Post# 22496-9/27/2002-08:54 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Household Wonders On The History Channel
MESSAGE: Hmmm, that sound like Fun, I'll have to record it. I will be very interesting to see how accurate it really is, most historical write-ups I see about washing machines are way off. The problem is no one really knows who invented the earliest of the wringer machines.
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Post# 22497-9/27/2002-08:54 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of day (1959)
MESSAGE: 1959 Terry.
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Post# 22498-9/27/2002-09:58 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: Computer Controlled Maytag Stack up for grabs!
MESSAGE: I have become so enamoured with my new Equator that I have decided to let someone else enjoy the wonders of my "Computer Command" Maytags. Stack unit, almond, natural gas. No knobs!! Just touch pads and LED's, complete with count down timer and status indicator. Lighted wash tub! This really should go to a good home. It's in Monticello, GA and I will let it go for a very reasonable price. Anybody interested?
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Post# 22499-9/27/2002-11:08 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire/Electrolux news of the day
MESSAGE: 9/26/02, Chicago Tribune: "Electrolux hopes its name can go into homes again". It may end up being one of the smartest extensions of a brand, or go down as one of the biggest stumbles in marketing history. Either way, appliance marketing executives will be paying close attention to the North American division of Electrolux over the next several months. The swedish appliance company, whose name conjures up images of door-to-door vacuum cleaner salesmen, is in the early stages of rebranding itself in the U.S. And the company that owns such nameplates as Frigidaire and Eureka is so confident in consumers' fondness for the brand that it plans to launch a new line of higher-end refrigerators this time next year under the Electrolux name. Ironically, becasue of its deal to buy back its own trademark in North America two years ago, it can't launch a floor-care line for at least two years. Nevertheless, Electrolux is bullish about the return of its brand name in the U.S. and it has big plans to get that word out to consumers, both on its current Frigidaire line as well as on lines of products using its own name. Electrolux by the end of the year will add its name to Frigidaire's Professional Series of appliances. By next April all Frigidaire products will also carry the Electrolux name. And then by next year it plans to roll out a new line of high-end appliances that will only carry the Electrolux name.
The company will pit itself against some of the biggest names in the industry, including Maytag corp. In essense, the company will be competing against itself, though it claims the Electrolux line will be targeted at a high-end segment that isn't currently covered by Frigidaire. The company is betting that the name which hasn't been used on products in the U.S. in years, still stands for quality in the consumers mind. "We feel we can enhance our brands through the Electrolux name" said Tony Evans, corporate communication for Electrolux in the Americas. "The research we have done shows a good level of awareness". But this remains a risky bet. Consumers, who have more choices and greater access to information on products than in the past, are more picky these days. No doubt the company is relying heavily on consumer nostalgia as it sets off to launch new products in a highly competitive segment. Electrolux said it plans to spend aggresively to market to consumers behind both the Electrolux dual branding with Frigidaire and the solo Electrolux brand, though it wouldn't say how much. The company is also talking to ad agencies about the new brand. In the meantime, it hasn't ruled out getting back into the floor-care business when it can two years from now, though right now it has its hands full trying to get into America's kitchens.
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Post# 22500-9/27/2002-11:20 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Kaiser Water Powered Dishwasher found in Seattle (Pictures of the Kaiser)
MESSAGE: The owner of the Kaiser dishwasher has sent pictures for everyone to see.
Now that's what you call a built in dishwasher...
LINK: http://www.classicappliances.com/TEMP/Kaiser-DW.jpg
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Post# 22501-9/27/2002-11:21 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire/Electrolux news of the day
MESSAGE: YAY, I certain hope this means that the Frigidaire name will eventually be retired once and for all.
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Post# 22502-9/27/2002-11:41 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Kaiser Water Powered Dishwasher found in Seattle (Pictures of the Kaiser)
MESSAGE: I once saw this dishwasher in a magazing years ago.
Does it work by just turning on the water?
Peter
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Post# 22503-9/27/2002-12:23 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: Kaiser DW
MESSAGE: Very cool. Does anyone know what the knobs are for? (fill and drain?) I wonder what kind of soap it used. Did the jets move in any way?
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Post# 22504-9/27/2002-13:14 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kaiser Water Powered Dishwasher found in Seattle (Pictures of the Kaiser)
MESSAGE: Robert,
Nice pics. You might like to know that often when you post such links to pics in your temp directory, my Internet Explorer will show these in thumbnail sizes. To view the full size pics, I either have to download them to disk and open in a graphics viewer, or view them with Netscape Navigator. I don't know if this is peculiar to my iteration of IE. I'm running version 6.0.26.
Cheers.
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Post# 22505-9/27/2002-13:15 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kaiser Water Powered Dishwasher found in Seattle (Pictures of the Kaiser)
MESSAGE: It looks like a real water waster, if it's "water powered".
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Post# 22506-9/27/2002-13:52 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: 59 WHIRLPOOL Imperial washer [no power :( ] , but NORGE dryer works, yay !
MESSAGE: Last night I went to the folks house to move some of my latest finds into place on the other side of the basement. In the process of cleaning the washer, touching up pucked marks and further polishing I plugged her in. "NOTHING", nadda, zip, no juice. AND to top it off the timer dial is stuck frozen I cannot push or pull or turn it at all and I am afraid to force it. The fluorescent light did not come on either. It does need a new cord so I may start there. But darn, she looks pretty :). The NORGE time line dryer I found on the side of the road supposedly fell over and dropped on its back so I was forewarned. Well I plugged it in last night and it worked great. Love the way the timer dial lights up. BUT I am not sure the purpose of the regular incandescent bulb on in the back behind the drum?? In fact, I dried some lightweight perm. press items in there and it took about 30 minutes and ran smooth and very quiet. It is a model # AE 620. Does anyone know WHAT YEAR it is?? Does that mean its a 1962?? Timer works great and is 100% accurate. Porcelain top cleaned up sweet, but sides need repainting bad which is what I am on my way to do now, then take pics. Thanks for reading and have a nice weekend everyone ........... - GREGM
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Post# 22507-9/27/2002-14:43 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Kaiser Water Powered Dishwasher found in Seattle (Pictures of the Kaiser)
MESSAGE: Rich that is IE6 naughty auto resize feature. There should be a set of buttons that pop up in the upper left hand corner of the picture. One of those buttons turns off auto resize so you can see the picture at its correct size. I went into Tools...Internet Options...Advanced TAB and turned off Autoresize as I do not like to see the pictures smaller than they were meant to be.
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Post# 22508-9/27/2002-14:43 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kaiser Water Powered Dishwasher found in Seattle (Pictures of the Kaiser)
MESSAGE: EEEEE!!! I'd be afraid a monster would pop out of it and get me!
-ph
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Post# 22509-9/27/2002-14:44 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire/Electrolux news of the day
MESSAGE: Hmmm... And the reincarnation possibilites also...
-ph
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Post# 22510-9/27/2002-14:49 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: 59 WHIRLPOOL Imperial washer [no power :( ] , but NORGE dryer works, yay !
MESSAGE: I hope you get some juice going to Mr. Imperial. I'd love to see some pics anyway. especially close-ups of the control dial and agitator. Congradulations on success with the Norge dryer. :)
Les
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Post# 22511-9/27/2002-15:03 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire/Electrolux news of the day (possibilites)
MESSAGE: Just don't get your hopes up
Peter
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Post# 22512-9/27/2002-15:49 ||| cleanteamofny (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Kaiser Water Powered Dishwasher found in Seattle (Pictures of the Kaiser)
MESSAGE: Rich,
I'm not sure what OS you are running, but you may want to download "image resizer" to view it with IE. This will inlarge the thumbnail photo to standard size, even though it's for Windows XP, it probably could be used with Windows 98SE. Give it a try and see what happens.
LINK: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/downloads/powertoys.asp
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Post# 22513-9/27/2002-16:01 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: 59 WHIRLPOOL Imperial washer [no power :( ] , but NORGE dryer works, yay ! (thanks les...)
MESSAGE: thanks, I am sure at some point , I will get it up and running, but in the meantime, I will take pics , close-ups too, and get them out here.......I am grateful that the NORGE dryer is problem free, I will keep my fingers crossed that, that will last....
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Post# 22514-9/27/2002-17:08 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Kaiser Water Powered Dishwasher found in Seattle (Pictures of the Kaiser)
MESSAGE: Interesting machine - do we know what year this is from? Great use of wasted or little used space in the kitchen but I wonder how (or if) it cleans dishes - might turn out to be a dish rinser, but still a very cool find!
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Post# 22515-9/27/2002-18:11 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire/Electrolux news of the day ("
Don't they make vacuums?"
)
MESSAGE: Does make one think, brand recognition by both names will be very high - incredible, really. I hope they have some plans to actually produce a quality product, not just a WCI-Frigidaire in stainless steel skin and a shiny new nametag. ;-)
This certainly will be interesting to watch, the globe gets smaller every day! I have read that Haier has plans to grab their piece of the American appliance market too, will there only be two American appliance manufacturers left soon?
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Post# 22516-9/27/2002-18:55 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kaiser Water Powered Dishwasher found in Seattle (Pictures of the Kaiser)
MESSAGE: Ah, thanks Mister Wizard. I'll give that a try!
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Post# 22517-9/27/2002-19:04 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire/Electrolux news of the day
MESSAGE: The way I read the press release, the low to mid end appliances will carry both the Frigidaire and Electrolux names, and only the high end appliances will carry the Electrolux name. Electrolux may be reluctant to phase out the Frigidaire name, prefering to keep it on the low end stuff.
Or maybe they could change their name to some combination of the two...
Let's see...
Electroflux? Flectodaire? Frigidelux? Fluxodaire?
The possibilities seem endless!
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Post# 22518-9/27/2002-21:01 ||| laundromat (florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire/Electrolux news of the day (frigidaire electrolux news of the day)
MESSAGE: "Would you like to buy a vowel?????
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Post# 22521-9/27/2002-22:00 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire/Electrolux news of the day (Frigidaire/Electrolux )
MESSAGE: Hi Greg,
I am hoping they phase out the TL's and improve on thr FL by adding a heater and maybe even making a Combo.
Peter
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Post# 22522-9/27/2002-22:29 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: Estate Sale Friday
MESSAGE: Well, 5 estate sales today here in my area and there were the usual late 80's/early 90's Maytags. However, in one house there was a Bendix dryer, which looks like it was very gently used. No rust at all and the drum is smooth and shiny. Even the light inside the door still goes on when you open it up. Couldn't find a model number though. It had a square cabinet with the name "Bendix" in the middle (and Bendix Home Appliances in smaller letters right underneath) with a single dial control on the left front - the control was simply a 60 minute timer - no air fluff or anything like that.
Interesting I couldn't find a lint filter either. But on the back of the dryer attached to the exhaust was a small, perforated black metal box. Apparently the exhaust flows through this box which traps the lint and you lift the lid of the box to clean it out. Now would this have been an original part of the dryer? It does sort of look like it is from the 50's - especially since it says on it "Clean after each washday".
As usual I was sternly informed that the appliances were not for sale and were part of the real estate transaction. So before I try to convince the new owners to sell it, I pose the question to you folks - should I try for it? What would be a fair offer? Thanks in advance for the advice............
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Post# 22523-9/27/2002-22:37 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Friday
MESSAGE: What is it with Americans and Washing machines being part of the real estate transaction? I have never heard of that happening anywhere else. When we move or buy a house in Australia we take the washing machine with us. A stove would obviously be something you dont take with you but appliances are the householders own responsibilty.
Besides I would want my own choice of appliances when moving house.
Could someone please enlighten me?
BTW that Frigidaire queen is so freeky.
Couldnt we have one of those lovely Hotpoint Ladies instead?
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Post# 22524-9/27/2002-22:59 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire/Electrolux news of the day
MESSAGE: Leslie, thanks for the information. I wonder if they'll offer a high-end front loader with supplemental heater to compete with the HE3t/Duet HT and Maytag Neppies.
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Post# 22525-9/27/2002-23:14 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire/Electrolux news of the day
MESSAGE: That would be nice, especially if they threw in a pulsator just for show.
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Post# 22526-9/27/2002-23:18 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: I Guess People Like Us Are Getting Cool
MESSAGE: If a Fridge Has Run For Years, Collectors May Be Chasing It ---
To Vintage-Appliance Buffs, Depression-Era GE Model Is So Cool That It's Hot
By Rachel Emma Silverman
09/20/2002
The Wall Street Journal, Front Page A1
(Copyright (c) 2002, Dow Jones & Company, Inc.)
When John Morgan is thirsty for a soda, he reaches into a gadget that looks like a bowlegged cupboard with a salad spinner perched on top. Mr. Morgan, a 40-year-old bakery-goods sales representative from Fargo, N.D., owns two of the squat white steel appliances. To him and a growing
number of collectors nationwide, these GE Monitor Top fridges, from the 1920s and 1930s, are the epitome of cool.
"I think they are artwork. They're beautiful," says Mr. Morgan, who prowls
junk shops, estate sales and auctions for vintage refrigerators, and
repairs
and sells them on the side.
Looks are just part of the appeal. With their thickly insulated steel
doors,
instead of plastic ones, vintage fridges typically are quieter and more
durable than their modern successors. And, because they're often
smaller and
lack energy-guzzling features, they can be cheaper to run.
Ray Folsom, 73, says the old appliances transport him back to his
childhood,
when electric refrigeration was a glamorous new technology. Mr. Folsom,
a
retired movie stuntman who grew up in the Los Angeles area, remembers
when
his family had an icebox. Later, when they got a refrigerator, he says,
"I
thought it was the neatest thing." Today, Mr. Folsom, a part-time
dealer,
owns about 20 vintage fridges, which he restores.
Others are looking to add a touch of authenticity to the kitchens of
their
period houses. In February, Valerie Lowich, 47, started posting ads on
the
Web and distributing fliers locally in her search for a two- or
three-door
Monitor Top for her 1935 home in Milaca, Minn. "No one would sell," she
says. "I was getting a little depressed."
Ms. Lowich finally found a two-door model for about $1,400, including
shipping, in Tulsa, Okla. It should arrive this week. "It is the
refrigerator of my dreams," she says.
Many of those who can't resist old Monitor Tops, colorful 1950s
Frigidaires
or even the boxy harvest gold or avocado refrigerators popular in the
'60s
and '70s have found each other through the Old Appliance Club. The
club,
founded in 1994 in Ventura, Calif., brings together vintage-appliance
users,
restoration experts and parts suppliers. The club says its ranks have
increased 25% in the past year to about 5,500 members, many of them
also
interested in such gadgets as old Magic Chef or Chambers stoves.
Dealer showrooms and repair shops have sprung up to cater to those who
long
to return to a simpler, predefroster era. John Jowers, owner of
AntiqueAppliances.com, in Clayton, Ga., says he is booked 20 months in
advance for vintage-appliance refurbishment jobs. This time last year,
he
says, he was booked only five months in advance.
Many dealers say the Monitor Tops, manufactured by General Electric Co.
from
1927 to 1937, are the most sought-after old refrigerators. They
estimate
that demand for the machines, one of the appliance industry's earliest
and
biggest mass-produced hits, has more than doubled over the past few
years,
and prices have increased accordingly.
Five years ago, a fully refurbished single-door Monitor Top, with its
distinctive top-mounted cylindrical motor, could go for about $1,250,
says
Mike Arnold, owner of Twentieth Century Appliance Restorations, in Troy
N.Y.
Now, it can fetch about $2,500. Rare three-door models, fully restored,
can
command $10,000 or more.
During the decade they were made, GE sold well over a million Monitor
Tops,
aided by an advertising campaign that extolled their reliability in
preserving food. The Monitor Top, GE's ads said, "Makes It Safe to Be
Hungry."
Old-appliance buffs estimate that thousands of the machines are still
in
use. That's because they were built to last. Each part, from the
tiniest
screw to its thick steel casing, was designed to work for at least 25
years,
according to an internal GE engineering document. The average modern
refrigerator has a lifespan of between five and 19 years, depending on
the
model, according to a recent survey provided by the Association of Home
Appliance Manufacturers, a Washington-based trade group.
"We get calls and notes from consumers all the time, from customers who
still have the refrigerators their parents had, and they just want us
to
know it is still around and kicking," says Kim Freeman, a spokeswoman
for
GE's Consumer Products unit. GE no longer services or makes parts for
the
Monitor Top.
Anne and Gary Graves, both 40 and commercial photographers, have eight
Monitor Tops, which they keep in their 18th-century stone house in
Raubsville, Pa. But their parents are "aghast that we have these old
refrigerators," says Mr. Graves.
"I can't imagine defrosting a refrigerator again. I can't imagine not
having
a marvelous freezer section with an icemaker. I like all the modern
conveniences," says Ms. Graves' mother, Betsy Callahan.
Many vintage-appliance aficionados also snap up fridge-related ads,
signs or
promotional merchandise. Peter Mintun, a 52-year-old cabaret singer who
lives in New York, treasures an old GE songbook, which he thinks was
published around 1928. The book's refrigerator-themed tunes were set to
popular songs of the day, like this one, to the tune of "Baby Face."
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Post# 22527-9/27/2002-23:28 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire/Electrolux news of the day
MESSAGE: Rich, my heart is pulsating at the thought. But as peteski says, don't count on it.
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Post# 22528-9/27/2002-23:28 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Friday
MESSAGE: Hi Anthony, was this the Bendix Dryer you found today?
LINK: http://classicappliances.com/TEMP/bendixdryer.jpg
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Post# 22529-9/27/2002-23:38 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: 1968 Frigidaire washer water valve
MESSAGE: Posted on Appliance forum, "clueles about washer repair". I informed the individual to come here. Hopefully they will.
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Post# 22530-9/27/2002-23:53 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Household Wonders On The History Channel
MESSAGE: Well darn. Missed it again., That's what I get for being very depressed and in bed at 9:00 p.m. my local time.
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Post# 22531-9/28/2002-02:15 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Friday
MESSAGE: It depends on the situation arrroohhh and how the contract is written. I think in the case of these homes where the person has passed on, it's simply done that way for convenience sake. Some folks just don't want the hassle of moving large appliances, or want something new and different at their new destination.
Of course, if you have things like builtin cooktops, ovens, dishwashers, etc, those always stay with the house, but the other items there is more flexibility.
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Post# 22532-9/28/2002-02:24 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: I Guess People Like Us Are Getting Cool
MESSAGE: What an interesting story. It seems that kitchen appliances are a bit ahead of the curve from laundry appliances where vintage interest is concerned, but judging just by how our club has grown, I'm quite sure us laundry-philes will continue gaining ground!
Like the woman's mother, I would not likely contend with a manual defrost freezer to have a vintage refrigerator (I would just get a vintage frost free model!) and I might do without a self cleaning oven to have a Flair, but that would be about the only instance in which I would. One nice thing about the automatic laundry side of things, is one doesn't have to give up their modern conveniences to use and enjoy the vintage machines; they are as we know usually at least as good and often better than anything available today.
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Post# 22533-9/28/2002-04:00 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: No interest in washers at all
MESSAGE: I guess these people don't bother about what kind of washer they have.
Louis
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2057802906
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Post# 22534-9/28/2002-05:59 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Is this a UK classic?
MESSAGE: I rec'd an email from someone at "blueyonder.co.uk":
I have a Philco Ecotronic Softline washing machine (inoperative - needs new grey internal door seal). Would this be of interest to you?
Email if interested and I'll forward you this email to respond to!
-ph
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Post# 22535-9/28/2002-06:20 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Friday
MESSAGE: Yes, Robert, that was the one at today's sale. Electric, not gas, of course. So, what do you think??
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Post# 22536-9/28/2002-06:25 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Friday
MESSAGE: Robert - would you tell me approximately what year this machine is from and whether you think that little exhaust mounted lint trap is an original feature? On the one in your picture, I see regular exhaust tubing - so is there no lint trap on these machines? Thanks.
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Post# 22537-9/28/2002-07:20 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Estate saleing in the Land of Rust
MESSAGE: That's right, all 4 of them. At least better than none. In the ad, one of the sales has a "50s oven". Not sure what it is but I will take pics if there's any vintage.
OK, everybody chant so the spell will work:
Kenmore 800, Kenmore 800, Kenmore 800, Kenmore 800...
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Post# 22538-9/28/2002-08:56 ||| Rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: Another Appliance Graveyard
MESSAGE: I live in Southern California and went to "Appliance Recycling Factory" in Riverside, California. Appliances left outdoors full of dust and dirt. Some brand new models and some old. Many were partially dismantled. There were areas just full of parts such as agitators. The only machines maintained and kept indoors for resale were current models. Many appliances outdoors had "trash" written on them. I did manage to find a Frigedaire Jet Cone washer in bronze outdoors but I am sure it was not in working order. I also found some vintage wringer washers and also easy washers with spin dryer but they were dirty, full of cobwebs, and not in working order. Another appliance graveyard.
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Post# 22539-9/28/2002-21:38 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate saleing in the Land of Rust (A GREAT day for vintage Hi-Fi (Bob Wirth LOOK))
MESSAGE: No appliances except for a picture of a vintage Roper stove, but the 70s buffs like me should rejoice! I snatched up a top o' the line Zenith stereo from about 1979. This thing has more buttons than a 9 year old can drool over. The amp and radio works but the mechanical stuff doesn't... yet. Also, some really cool and rare 70s records. Originals in mint condition! Now time to find that Seeburg 222! I also picked up a new in the box Bentley Super 8 camera & projector set. NOW I can convert more vintage footage of ME to Digital 8. Cool huh? Super 8 to Digital 8. The prize of the day is a 1960s Akai Reel-to-reel/8 track deck. I plugged it in, turned the switch and Nat King Cole started singing "Unforgettable". As far as vintage audio goes. THIS IS one of my dream machines. YAY! I can't believe it! Unforgettable!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/kenmore800/lst?.dir=/pictures/estate+sales+09282002&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/
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Post# 22540-9/28/2002-22:04 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Friday
MESSAGE: Well Anthony, that dryer seems to show up all over the place. I've seen two of them, Greg has one, Peter has one. It must have been a big seller and it seems to have lasted. Its a nice dryer, I like mine, but its not a that rare.
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Post# 22541-9/28/2002-22:05 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Friday
MESSAGE: Its a 1951 model, and yes mine did have the lint filter box, but I removed it as I prefer a self-cleaning lint filter :)
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Post# 22542-9/28/2002-22:07 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate saleing in the Land of Rust (A GREAT day for vintage Hi-Fi (Bob Wirth LOOK))
MESSAGE: Hi Jason, I am really happy for you!! You found some neat treasures today. You have a bunch of new toys to play with. Have fun. Terry
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Post# 22543-9/28/2002-22:08 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate saleing in the Land of Rust (A GREAT day for vintage Hi-Fi (Bob Wirth LOOK))
MESSAGE: Well a big congrats Jason! How fun is that when you find some really cool things, and thanks for posting the pictures, I hope you keep doing that. I have some pictures from today sales too, which I will post later on or tomorrow, but there was nothing grand at any of the sales we went to today.
Good luck with restoration of the Zenith!!
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Post# 22544-9/29/2002-01:43 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Estate sale saturday reveals true treasure!
MESSAGE: After weeks of bringing home little or nothing from the sales, I finally found something truly rare and vintage - a real find. I stood and looked at it for a few minutes, pinching myself that I wasn't dreaming... Once I blow the dust off, it will have a prominent place in my collection!
Have a look!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/New+pics&.src=ph&.dnm=My+Vintage+Find+for+the+day!.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/New%2bpics%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 22545-9/29/2002-02:07 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: No interest in washers at all
MESSAGE: I dont get it?
Is it because they are selling it so quickly? Or are the selling it because the machne has a small ding or is it because its a common Kenmore?
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Post# 22546-9/29/2002-03:52 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate saleing in the Land of Rust (A GREAT day for vintage Hi-Fi (Bob Wirth LOOK))
MESSAGE: Congratulations Jason, I love the Akai deck, it's a beauty.
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Post# 22547-9/29/2002-03:55 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate sale saturday reveals true treasure!
MESSAGE: Greg,
I guess the fabric softener prevents the lint filter from spitting out the lint as we saw happen last year at Robert's?
Louis
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Post# 22548-9/29/2002-03:57 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: No interest in washers at all
MESSAGE: Aha!! They discovered their own mistake! The title of the ad was: GE washer and dryer 80 series.
Louis
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Post# 22549-9/29/2002-06:39 ||| mrcoffee (Flint, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Is this discrimination? (Under consideration, portable Maytag.)
MESSAGE: I'll download the Mac version of the Windows Media Player when I get the chance. Hopefully, it'll work. Info appreciated.
On the Maytag portable. Believe it or not, it's still going with that lawn mower belt! So, I may just go ahead and re-attach the back after a good cleaning.
I never realized how much them things splash though! Glad I'm running it on my tiled floor in the bathroom.
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Post# 22550-9/29/2002-09:12 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: JImmy's Maytag AMP washer and dryer together at last!
MESSAGE: Jimmy sent me some photos of his Maytag AMP washer and condensor dryer that he's reunited in his driveway. They look beautiful together, Jimmy and the cars are stunning!
Let's throw in some washing and drive downtown for shopping and a bite of lunch! Oh, the freedom of automatic washing and drying, what would we do without them!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gefilterflo/vwp?.dir=/New+Arrivals&.src=ph&.dnm=Maytags+And+Cars.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gefilterflo/lst%3f%26.dir=/New%2bArrivals%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 22551-9/29/2002-09:19 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate saleing in the Land of Rust (A GREAT day for vintage Hi-Fi (Bob Wirth LOOK))
MESSAGE: You made some very cool finds yesterday - thanks for the doing the pictures for us! My sister lived in Algiers Point while at Tulane, it's a wonderful area. That was a cool range, Roper also made a 6 burner version of that, 4 burners along the back and two on each side in front leaving a large open work space front and center. I always thought that was good planning of the worktop for a range. Congrats on finding one of your dream machines - where do the 8 tracks go?
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Post# 22552-9/29/2002-09:45 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: Parts Finds..........and Thx to Greg N
MESSAGE: Hey Greg, thanks for posting the pix of my Maytags. They are now safe and sound in their new spot in my garage showroom. Spent the day yesterday with John LeFever and Bob S. We went parts hunting and made some fantastic finds........I got lots of GE, Philco, Kenmore stuff, and even a Westinghouse transmission for my 1941 washer. Will have to give you a call and tell you about it. Im going back to the parts house sometime this week. Will take pics this time when we are there...........
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Post# 22553-9/29/2002-10:10 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: JImmy's Maytag AMP washer and dryer together at last!
MESSAGE: Congradulations, Jimmy! They are real beauties. When you have time, how about a close-up of the tubs and control knobs? What year are they? Between a 49 and 53?
I wish you lived here in Atlanta. I'd so love to see them in person.
Les
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Post# 22554-9/29/2002-12:25 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: JImmy's Maytag AMP washer and dryer together at last! (Beautiful Jimmy)
MESSAGE: Hi Jimmy, My that Maytag set is beautiful. It is really neat when you can have a matching set. Some great looking cars in your pictures too. Thanks for sharing and thanks for posting Greg. I like you idea of shopping and lunch!!LOL Terry
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Post# 22555-9/29/2002-12:25 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: JImmy's Maytag AMP washer and dryer together at last! (JImmy's Maytag AMP washer and dryer together )
MESSAGE: Jimmy
Best of Luck with the pair
Greg thanks for posting
Peter
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Post# 22556-9/29/2002-13:44 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: JImmy's Maytag AMP washer and dryer together at last! (Wonderful Jimmy!)
MESSAGE: Well this is wonderful! I never knew Maytag made condensor dryers. When did the switch over to the other kind?
How fantastic to have the complete set. Keep this up, and maybe one day we'll be having a convention in Ohio!
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Post# 22557-9/29/2002-13:45 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate saleing in the Land of Rust (A GREAT day for vintage Hi-Fi (Bob Wirth LOOK))
MESSAGE: That's really fun Jason! Thanks for the pictures. I remember all those things very well.
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Post# 22558-9/29/2002-18:11 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate sale saturday reveals true treasure!
MESSAGE: Congratulations GREG!!!!!
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Post# 22559-9/29/2002-18:40 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: JImmy's Maytag AMP washer and dryer together at last!
MESSAGE: Jimmy!!!! Awesome as usual. I can't believe I'm writing this, but, ... I may have a conflict if I'mm ever at your house. I may have to forego laundry for the cars (now don't everyone pass out!!!)
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Post# 22560-9/29/2002-18:43 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: JImmy's Maytag AMP washer and dryer together at last!
MESSAGE: Greg, don't forget the obligatory hat & gloves for that trip downtown.
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Post# 22561-9/29/2002-19:29 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: Condenser Maytag and A3MP
MESSAGE: Glad you liked the Maytag set. I have Gregg to thank for talking me into getting the Maytag washer. I had the condenser dryer for about a year (it was a horror picking it up, story to follow in the next post). Im so glad I got them now, as they are an unusual set. I think this was about the last year for the condenser dryer (1953?/1954). It works great, but does use a lot of water. Glad you liked the cars Appnut. When I get bored with the washers, I just get out one of the cars to play with. I dont think I will ever be done, not working on something to fix!
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Post# 22562-9/29/2002-19:40 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: Picking up the Maytag Condenser Dryer
MESSAGE: I got a call out of the blue from some lady, saying she had an old stove and old dryer for sale, did I want them? I went out to look and low and behold it was the Maytag condenser dryer, and also a Maytag Dutch oven. Both were almost mint. I paid her $50.00 apiece but told her I would need to bring a STRONG friend over the next night to help me get them out of the basement. We went over the next night and worked and worked, tugged and pushed, and pulled and finally got the dryer out of the basement. The walls had been built around the laundry room with no foresite for new things coming in OR old things going out. After taking about 1.5 hrs to get the dryer out, we realized there was NO WAY the huge Maytag Dutch Oven would ever make it out in one piece. I sadly told the lady we would have pass on getting it and would need a refund on the $50.00 I had paid her. In one of the worst cases of human nature I had experienced in a long time, she absolutely refused to give me my money back. I was absolutely livid! After all we had worked for, and how it was not our fault, she would not budge. Not dont get me wrong, I was glad to have the condenser dryer, even for the $100.00 I paid her, but can you imagine anyone being that nasty? It took a while for the memory of that to go away whenever I looked at the dryer!
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Post# 22563-9/29/2002-19:56 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate saleing in the Land of Rust (A GREAT day for vintage Hi-Fi (Bob Wirth LOOK))
MESSAGE: There's a slot on the side of the machine for the 8 tracks. I haven't tried the 8 track yet because I don't want to ruin any of my tapes. I need to take it apart and make sure all heads/belts are clean. While playing some of the reels, I heard the sound wobbling so I'm sure it's due a cleaning/belts/head realignment. I might just take it to a pro audio shop and let them do their wizardry. This is a finely tuned audio device and should be serviced by a professional.
It might get some actual use as I'm also playing drums in a band and a tape recorder can come in handy. Yeah I know I can go digital, but you can get some cool sounding stuff with analog equipment.
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Post# 22564-9/29/2002-19:57 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: James Dishwasher
MESSAGE: On the gardenweb.com's appliance forum, there's a link entitled "What were THEY smoking? Dept.". In that thread, is a ghuy who posts about his memories of his family's James dishwasher and gave quite detailed information on how it worked and some inner workings. He and his dad kept it running until the 70s. What started the threatd? The James dishwasher model that fit winin the gas range.
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Post# 22565-9/29/2002-21:23 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Picking up the Maytag Condenser Dryer (thats ridiculous.....)
MESSAGE: I can't believe it Jimmy, she probably figured she will never get rid of it now, but thats just "wrong", that is disturbing to hear.............. she obviously has ZERO scruples........hope the dryer was worth it.........
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Post# 22566-9/29/2002-21:26 ||| Rick_auricchio (Cambria, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: James Dishwasher
MESSAGE: I'm the guy.
As a result of that discussion on THS, I drew sketches from memory. Seeing photos was really fun.
CleanTeam's James looks exactly like the one my parents had from the early 50s till the late 70s. It had no heater and no "sterilize" cycle like Robert's.
I'd completely forgotten about the removable glassware rack.
My dad made many repairs to the unit over the years; as I became a teenager I began working alongside him. I think a bearing died, and that was the end of the James. By then, I'd been married a couple of years and out of the house.
Robert, the pump on my parents' James was a simple mechanical one. Its pulley, like that on CleanTeam's, sat idle in the middle of the v-belt loop; when a solenoid yanked the pump to one side, its pulley mated with the belt.
Regarding loading, I think we just put plates of varying sizes in the bottom rack.
The link below is to my page of sketches; I just made them today, and tonight I've found this forum. Talk about coincidences this month!
If you've got questions, email me at rick@cfcl.com. I could even ask my parents for further info about the James. Now 81 and 82, they probably remember it well.
LINK: http://www.cfcl.com/rick/james/james.html
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Post# 22567-9/29/2002-21:28 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Condenser Maytag and A3MP (Maytag dryer)
MESSAGE: Hi Jimmy, You really earned that dryer I would say. I think Maytag might have made a condenser dryer after yours. My aunt had one but I am not sure when she got it. I am thinking around 1956-58. It was almost like yours except it had a back console. It was a great dryer and she used it till she moved in 1975 to Florida and sold it with the house. You are so right it does use a lot of water but she often would place the hose in the washer when she was drying a load and it would just about fill the tub. As I remember the water was always very clean and clear. Hope you will take some pictures when you have it moved into its new home. Sure a beautiful set! Terry
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Post# 22568-9/29/2002-21:28 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: roughly sixteen hours to paint the Norge (what year?)
MESSAGE: spent most of Friday late afternoon/evening sanding and first coat and Saturday sanding again and second coat, top is porcelain and that cleaned up sweet. Pics coming soon, like a real goofball I forgot to take pics of it before painting - DER!! - oh well... Painted the "kick panel", if you will, on both my Whirlpool washers black as well.
The Norge Time Line Dryer is an AE 620, does anyone know WHAT YEAR that model was made?
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Post# 22569-9/29/2002-21:30 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: GE dw model GSD940D-03 (year 1982) question on fill time?
MESSAGE: My folks GE dw does not fill enough and they have adequate pressure. Is there anything I can do to INCREASE the "fill time" ?? - thanks..........-gregm
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Post# 22570-9/29/2002-21:35 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: RE: Picking up the Maytag Condenser Dryer (thats ridiculous.....)
MESSAGE: Believe me Greg, I dont often tell someone off, but I sure did let fly to that lady. I hope she has to pay someone a fortune to get it out of the house. She deserves it. I went out the door of her house muttering expletives--deleted! XXXX##&@($(#((!:Q?!?Q?>W
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Post# 22571-9/29/2002-21:48 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Picking up the Maytag Condenser Dryer (thats ridiculous.....is that legal?)
MESSAGE: good, I am glad you told her off....do i even ask what her reaction was?, her reasoning?, if any, behind keeping the $$?? I mean if you had not payed until getting there then you would have declined and not paid.....right? The more I think about this I don't think she can do this Jimmy, she can't keep your money like that......did you have any witnesses?? I don't now how it is legal for her to sell something that cannot be removed from her house. God, it bugs me and it didn't even happen to me. I can only imagine how livid you were/are.....
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Post# 22572-9/29/2002-21:58 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: RE: Picking up the Maytag Condenser Dryer (thats ridiculous.....is that legal?)
MESSAGE: Greg, is most certainly was not legal. Im sure I could have done a small claim against her. But there is such a thing as bad Karma, and that Maytag Dutch Oven will haunt her Im sure. It was just not worth my time and trouble to pursue it. She will get what she has coming, one way or another. XX##@@&^!&&$$t@!!!! dame!
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Post# 22573-9/29/2002-21:58 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE dw model GSD940D-03 (year 1982) question on fill time?
MESSAGE: Check out the screen in the fill solenoid. Could be clogged up. That was the problem with my old GE and 67 Kenmore roto-rack DW's.
Steve 1-18
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Post# 22574-9/29/2002-22:11 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: Condenser dryers
MESSAGE: How does a condenser dryer work? Sorry to ask such an elementary question but I'm fairly new to the group and haven't any background on the inner workings of older dryers. I always paid more attention to the washers.
Les
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Post# 22575-9/29/2002-22:15 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: Westinghouse FL Question
MESSAGE: I have been having a ball with my Spacemates. A friend of mine has a newer set and asked me to do a little maintenance on it.
When I moved his (bought in 1991) out from the wall and took the cover off the back, I just about had heart failure! It was not at all like mine on the inside. No potatoe (sp??) pully, no solenoids, and a separate drain pump. It was more like my fridgemore FL. What a shock! I like my spacemates lots better.
I have a few questions about maintenance. Are there any bearings that need to be greased in this washer?
It needs a new boot, too. I would like to remove the front panel of the washer (like I did on my spacemate) but I can't figure out how to remove the timer knob. On my spacemate, turning the knob backwards unscrewed it. On this one, turning the knob it just turns and clicks. Any ideas out there?
My friend actually taught me how to retrieve coins from the pump protector.
Any maintenance recommended on the dryer other than vacuuming out all the lint?
After checking out his machine, I must say his was built cheaper and had a lot more rust for only being about 11 years old.
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Post# 22576-9/29/2002-22:50 ||| Jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse FL Question (For Steve 1-18)
MESSAGE: Hi Steve, I am not having any luck reaching you, even with the other email address you sent me. I would love to chat, but will have to try a different approach, any ideas? Don
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Post# 22577-9/29/2002-22:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate sale saturday reveals true treasure!
MESSAGE: Yay, nice find Greg! I didn't realize SQ made a filter/softener combo unit. I assume the washer was long gone?
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Post# 22578-9/29/2002-22:52 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: JImmy's Maytag AMP washer and dryer together at last!
MESSAGE: Very cool pictures Jimmy, eventually I really want to get a vintage car to go with my AMP too!
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Post# 22579-9/29/2002-22:58 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: James Dishwasher
MESSAGE: Wow great sketches Rich, your memory is very good. I'll have to post some more pictures of my James soon. Very fun dishwasher with the window lid and all.
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Post# 22580-9/29/2002-23:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: As you can see by these few lame pictures, there wasn't much to see in the vintage laundry department at the sales this weekend. But there was a very woodgrainy Kenmore set and one of the last belt-drive GE's, using Hotpoint's double decker agitator.
LINK: http://www.classicappliances.com/TEMP/Sales-9-29-02.jpg
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Post# 22581-9/29/2002-23:02 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: GE dw model GSD940D-03 (year 1982) question on fill time?
MESSAGE: Excuse me Steve, but you forgot to mention that I was the one who discovered the inadequiate fills on both of those dishwashers as well as your friends' GE dishwasher (about the same age as Greg's parents') that wasn't washing well. Greg it's a common problem after so many years. I had to have my solenoid replaced so that it would add plenty of water to wash like it had previously. (I was manually adding more water when I could hear the pump not fully charged after each fill). That was when the machine was 11 years old--now 4 years later. I live an area that has very hard water. Also, Greg, not every fill is the same time length. On many models, I've noticed the second fill isn't as full as the first or 3rd fill. And if there are 3 rinses after the main wash, that first rinse isn't a full fill either.
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Post# 22582-9/29/2002-23:06 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: The WD-57 Frigidaire Pulsamatic is Installed
MESSAGE: I took some pictures of his first offical wash in his new location...
LINK: http://www.classicappliances.com/TEMP/WD-57.jpg
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Post# 22583-9/29/2002-23:24 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The WD-57 Frigidaire Pulsamatic is Installed
MESSAGE: very nice! And you demonstrated proper unloading of the machine in the last picture!
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Post# 22584-9/29/2002-23:25 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: The WD-57 Frigidaire Pulsamatic is Installed
MESSAGE: Robert, he is most definitely a handsome machine!!! And right next to the coin-op superduty. But, BTW, where's the 1955 Pulsamatic residing now?
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Post# 22585-9/30/2002-06:04 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Picking up the Maytag Condenser Dryer (thats ridiculous.....is that legal?)
MESSAGE: Good point Greg. While I am not sure it is worth it for the amount of money involved, there must be some legal remedy - like small claims court or something like that. If she were a business, you could always call your local TV station Jimmy and talk to one of the "consumer reporters" and get them to embarrass her publicly on TV like they do here in N.Y.
I am always amazed at the lack of integrity I seein people. Very disappointing! At least the dryer was a find.
BTW Greg, how did you sand the dryer? Any special methods? Did you take it down to the metal or did you just rough up the surface a bit? What did you use for paint? Appliance epoxy or regular Rust-o-leum? Can't wait for pic of the Time Line!!
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Post# 22586-9/30/2002-07:42 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: she obviously has ZERO scruples
MESSAGE: How do you think I feel now that someone came into my studio, taken one of my Babies, claims to have repainted it, and now won't speak to me any longer, or even show photos of the paint, or even photos of the machine, back together in one piece? I'm really sore about that. This is suppose to be a club where we SHARE our experiences. Someone here absolutely wore out the AOL IM trying to get me to sell him a dishwasher, never mentioned a washer sale at all until the day of the convention (which put me under a lot of pressure), and now, I'm not allowed to know the time of day about the machine any longer. If I had a moment to think about it, I should have NEVER sold Old Lady Whirlpool, because she meant WAY more to me than perhaps you fellows can know, and represented 10 years of my lifes work, and pride & joy. Now it's gone and all I have to show for it is sore feelings. I can assure you fellows, I will not sell my appliances to strangers EVER AGAIN, and DO NO THINK THIS IS FUNNY. If I can't concern myself with how the paint job's going on what was once my washer for over 10 years, then I do not think it's at all fun to associate with these types of folk. NOW, I'm THE BAD GUY after all these years of collecting and restoring.
WHO CARES about HOW A DISCARDED, FALLEN DOWN OLD NORGE DRYER LOOKS? I WANNA SEE MY BABY WITH HER NEW FACE PAINT ON!
WHEN ARE WE GONNA SEE OLD LADY WHIRLPOOL WASHER WITH HER NEW PAINT ON, GREGM? Is she standing, top off, pieces about the room in boxes, half naked in your Mother's basment?
I, personally, have no respect for an appliance collector who's only 'skill' is to pick them up and repaint them, then not even show the finished paint. The guy doesn't even own or know how to use a multimeter. He's not qualified to own anything more complicated than a light bulb.
I'm really, really mad about this, guys, and I suggest you all protect yourselves from allowing this to happen to you by not selling any machine you really care about, especially to someone you do not know. I will NEVER do it again. I care much more about my machines than I do for strangers coming into my life, practically stealing my machines then making me out to be the asshole. END OF CONVERSATION (that's just what he said to me about it, like I'm a 5 year old and he's my Dad)
You know what, I don't think so.
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Post# 22587-9/30/2002-07:46 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate sale saturday reveals true treasure!
MESSAGE: Do you want it? I had never seen one of these combo filter/dispenser units either, I haven't looked in the parts books to see if it's listed under a certain model but I'm curious to know - it might have been an option too. The washer was long gone and replaced with a 24" KM DD.
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Post# 22588-9/30/2002-07:54 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Condenser dryers
MESSAGE: There were several methods of drying clothes this way. Most condenser dryers used cold water to condense the moisture removed from the clothes by the heating units. In the maytag, there was an outer drum that had a "sheet" of cold water running along the middle of one side to the bottom of the unit where it was collected and pumped away. In others, hot, moist air was circulated through a tube that had a cold water spray to condense the moisture. Frigidaire dryers used cool, moving air over rows of small tubes to condense the moisture. The warm moist air is naturally drawn to a cooler surface and condenses. Usually, these dryers were slower (sometimes considerably) than traditional air-flow dryers and were also usually much hotter to "boil" off the water in the clothes. The Frigidaire had a normal operating temp of 209 degrees. The picture of the day yesterday - Hotpoint dryer was a condenser dryer that used cool water sprayed into a collection pan below the drum.
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Post# 22589-9/30/2002-07:57 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Picking up the Maytag Condenser Dryer (thats ridiculous.....is that legal?)
MESSAGE: I'm sure Jimmy could go on and on about the peculiar behavior of the general public at his estate sales, the sad part is that these people think they are "entitled" to something for nothing and there is no changing them.
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Post# 22590-9/30/2002-07:59 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GE dw model GSD940D-03 (year 1982) question on fill time?
MESSAGE: One of my friends has a early 90's Kenmore dishwasher that short-fills so badly that it takes almost 3 seconds before the pump gets enough water to pump a surge - it sounds like it's dying. I've mentioned this problem but it has fallen on deaf ears. She washes everthing in the sink before it goes into the machine and "everything is clean" when it comes out of the dishwasher. It's been running this way for 5 years now...
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Post# 22591-9/30/2002-08:12 ||| cycla-fabric (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Parts Finds..........and Thx to Greg N (Great Maytags Jimmy!!!!)
MESSAGE: What great finds you have there Jimmy!!! They look great and its nice that you have a matched set. I guess with the condenser dryer you can use the leftover water to fill the washer as a cold water suds savers version. Enjoy them, and I love the cars too they look great too
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Post# 22592-9/30/2002-09:33 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: GE dw model GSD940D-03 (year 1982) question on fill time? (thanks, but.....)
MESSAGE: thanks Steve, I will check that out, but this has always been a problem............
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Post# 22593-9/30/2002-09:35 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate sale saturday reveals true treasure! (congrads on your find Greg)
MESSAGE: cool !!!
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Post# 22594-9/30/2002-09:38 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: GE dw model GSD940D-03 (year 1982) question on fill time? (thanks)
MESSAGE: thanks for the feedback, bob...........
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Post# 22595-9/30/2002-09:49 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Condenser dryers
MESSAGE: Thanks for the info. So does that mean condenser dryers had to be hooked up to a cold water line just like the washer or did it use the water drawn from the wet clothes? I see they had a drain hose. Looks like alot more plumbing was needed for one of these dryes. I can see why they no longer use this method. Inefficiency (longer drying time) and requiring more instalation.
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Post# 22596-9/30/2002-09:54 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: she obviously has ZERO scruples (gimme a break)
MESSAGE: BOB, I am not about nor do I need to defend myself here, whereas you decided to bring your agenda into the club. I am sure people realize there are two sides to a story........
FYI, I followed your advice on painting the bottom black like you BOLDLY suggested. I will be glad to show photos when I GET A CHANCE. I never disagreed with you, I just didn't like your temper or the way you came across. I am moving on now, I hope you can too.....take care......
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Post# 22597-9/30/2002-09:56 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: The WD-57 Frigidaire Pulsamatic is Installed (thnx for sharing pics)
MESSAGE: looks great Robert !!!
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Post# 22598-9/30/2002-10:07 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Picking up the Maytag Condenser Dryer (thats ridiculous.....is that legal?(i agree))
MESSAGE: I agree Angus !!
As far as the dryer goes I sanded it down with coarser paper and working my way down to finer paper. Where there was rust I had to sand down to bare metal. Whereas I could not spray it in my folks basement. I rolled on Rustoleum gloss white with a foam roller (two coats), sanding in between. It actually came out great and surprisingly smooth. I wanted to avoid the "orange peel" effect as much as possible. Thanks for asking
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Post# 22599-9/30/2002-10:20 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: GIMME A BREAK - FEELINGS
MESSAGE: I think the real issue here is that a mans feelings have been hurt (mine), and that even though I've expressed that as well as I can, I'm suppose to just 'move on' without any resolution to the problem?
Doesn't anyone know how to say 'sorry' anymore?
I, for one, refuse to be bullied around by some giant alpha male type .
I'll move on but it will be with a big scar on my heart.
I'm sorry I ever mentioned it. Reality is a bitch. Sorry about that too.
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Post# 22600-9/30/2002-10:22 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: POD great colors !!
MESSAGE: is that an ad from the fifties in LIFE magazine??
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Post# 22601-9/30/2002-10:28 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: GIMME A BREAK - FEELINGS (sorry, OK?)
MESSAGE: BOB, lets just move on, no hard feelings, I am taking very good care of your machine and showing it the respect that you would appreciate and will try to get pics out here as soon as I can, OK? Have a good day............
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Post# 22602-9/30/2002-10:48 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: GIMME A BREAK - FEELINGS (sorry, OK?)
MESSAGE: O.K.
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Post# 22603-9/30/2002-11:27 ||| Rick_auricchio (Cambria, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: James Dishwasher
MESSAGE: I was surprised, Robert, at how well my sketch matched reality! I was unsure about where the timer-drive eccentric went, and put it to the left of the main shaft. Sure 'nuff, that's where it is.
Your James appears to be a fancier one than the one I grew up with: yours has more rounded corners, the heater and sani option, and the badge is gold and centered on one panel. I recall a simpler, silver-colored badge in an upper corner of one of the larger sides.
In any event, it's a pretty remarkable piece of machinery. No electronics at all; of course, they only had germanium diodes back then: virtually none of the then-new transistors in consumer gear, no silicon diodes, and perhaps selenium rectifiers. None of these components would be of much use in a dishwasher without some way to implement the controller anyway.
If you've had the impeller housing apart, you'll see another eccentric, reducing the impeller speed to drive the deflector ribbon. I was always amazed that they were able to run this at such a high speed! These parts are inside the flat pan that attaches the impeller assembly to the interior of the drum. When you reassemble the impeller to the tub, you have to ensure there's no water leak: that area is almost certainly well-lubricated, and I doubt there's much of a seal to the pulley end of things.
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Post# 22604-9/30/2002-11:54 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: POD great colors !!
MESSAGE: The daily pics get better and better. I love the GE layouts. What odd locations for the air conditioner. Not to mention putting the washer-dryer combo under the built-in oven!
I like the layout of the blue kitchen better and love that 58 filter-flo pair.
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Post# 22605-9/30/2002-12:17 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD great colors !!
MESSAGE: And check out the music system on the bottom right corner! I'm sure that's a GE turntable.
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Post# 22606-9/30/2002-13:43 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD great colors !!
MESSAGE: With the combo washer-dryer under the oven, the dryer heat can help pre-heat the oven for dinner ;-) Those dryers get very, very hot - another condenser for ya!
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Post# 22607-9/30/2002-14:04 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: POD great colors !!
MESSAGE: Not only that, but if you spill something on your clothes while baking something in the oven you can just take off the soiled garment and toss it right in the washer without having to leave your dinner unattended. LOL.
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Post# 22608-9/30/2002-14:11 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD great colors !! (Dinner and a Show!)
MESSAGE: And a little pre-dinner show for the speechless dinner guests!
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Post# 22609-9/30/2002-15:29 ||| eugene (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: Two Questions
MESSAGE: Question 1: Did Modern Maid (or whatever that brand was called) once sell a combination dishwasher/range? I seem to recall seeing one at the local gas company showroom. It looked like one of those tall, old-school 2-oven ranges, except the bottom was a dishwasher instead of an oven. Which parent company produced it? G.E. perhaps? They had some funky ideas back in the day.
Question 2: Did Frigidaire (or maybe it was another brand) make countertop burner whichs folded down from the wall onto the counter? I seem to recall seeing something like that when I was a kid.
And Gansky1, if you're a giant alpha male-type, I want your phone number!! :)
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Post# 22610-9/30/2002-15:52 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Two Questions (Two Questions )
MESSAGE: Hi Eugene
The modern maid did produce a DW / Range like that
The DW was a D&M style
I am not sure about the 2nd ? however I seem to remember Hotpoint made something like a fold down range from the wall
maybe Frigidaire did also?
Peter
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Post# 22611-9/30/2002-15:53 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Two Questions
MESSAGE: Modern Maid did carry the animal you are talking about - dishwasher below the range, I think it was also available in other brand names too. The dishwasher was made by D&M, the stove/oven section might have been a Hardwick? I've seen gas and electric models of these. My father had one in gas at a winter home in Scottsdale, dishwasher never worked and peed water on the floor.
Frigidaire did make these flip-up burner units, very smart looking.
I think you have me confused with GregM - his number is....just kidding! ;-)
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Post# 22612-9/30/2002-15:57 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Hands of the agitators!
MESSAGE: When I was in first grade we went on the computers a lot. When they wanted our attention they would say "Hands off the keyboards!" I think they should make a vintage washer class. Then they would say "Hands off the agitators!" That would be fun!!!
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Post# 22613-9/30/2002-16:03 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Two Questions (Diswasher/range combo)
MESSAGE: Speed Queen was another.
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Post# 22614-9/30/2002-16:10 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Two Questions (Diswasher/range combo)
MESSAGE: Hi Glenn
I hope you are doing well
Speed Queen as I remember had a dishwasher in the 70's and it was definatly a D&M.
Peter
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Post# 22615-9/30/2002-17:29 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Two Questions (Diswasher/range combo)
MESSAGE: I forgot about Speed Queen dishwashers - they did have the range-d/w combo too! Does anyone have any pictures of the SQ dishwashers? I have never even seen service info from SQ on these....
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Post# 22616-9/30/2002-17:47 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Discarding Clothes - By Accident
MESSAGE: We have laughed a few times here about people getting rid of appliances with clothes in them - 'how could they do that??'
Well, it's easier than you might think! Take a look -
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/New+pics&.src=ph&.dnm=Ready+to+roll.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/New%2bpics%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 22617-9/30/2002-18:03 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Discarding Clothes - By Accident
MESSAGE: where are those items off to? I had thought you were keeping both of those items.
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Post# 22618-9/30/2002-18:23 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: What washer is that?
MESSAGE: To the right of the abc-o-matic what washer is that? I do believe that is has a glass on top of it.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/thesheerlook/vwp?.dir=/Convention+2001+Photos&.src=ph&.dnm=They+are+all+so+beautiful..jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/thesheerlook/lst%3f%26.dir=/Convention%2b2001%2bPhotos%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 22619-9/30/2002-18:33 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: What washer is that?
MESSAGE: Jamie, that is a 1951 GE toploader. The controls are on front, and it has a removable lid, porcelain tub and aluminum agitator. It is a very neat machine!
If you go to the GE wing of the museum, you can find out more about it and see more pictures.
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Post# 22620-9/30/2002-18:38 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: What washer is that?
MESSAGE: Cool, thank you very much!
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Post# 22621-9/30/2002-18:46 ||| eugene (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: Two Questions/Hands Off The Agitators
MESSAGE: Thanks to everyone who confirmed my recall of the range/dw combination. Would anyone have pics/sales lit for the Frigidaire fold-down burners?
On an old topic: I wish the Frigidaire brand would have been retired when GM bailed. The Westy years were bleak, indeed, except for the fact Frigidaire got a front-loading washer. I have a brand-spankin' new Frigidaire front-loader, and outside the fact it's styled like a bar of soap, it's a good machine. Increasing the spin RPM's was a good move. I just replaced a first generation Frigi/Electrolux and the changes are noticeable. Of course, I realize my poor Frigi will always have to play Nova to the Hettie's Corvette...sniff!
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Post# 22622-9/30/2002-19:16 ||| rick_auricchio (Cambria, CA)
SUBJECT: Modern Maid/McGraw Edison built-in toaster?
MESSAGE: I have one of these; it mounts in a wall or the side of a cabinet and pulls out. It's a four-slice KBH-101 unit (though the label says KBT-100) and it works.
Unfortunately, I can't find a source for spare parts, so it won't get moved to my new kitchen.
If there's any interest in this amusing little jewel, I will be removing it from service about the first of the year.
Pictures are at http://www.cfcl.com/rick/pix/toast1.jpg (thru toast4.jpg)
LINK: http://www.cfcl.com/rick/pix/toast1.jpg
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Post# 22623-9/30/2002-19:32 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Modern Maid/McGraw Edison built-in toaster?
MESSAGE: That is so cool! I"ve not seen anything like that before. If it is a McGraw Edison product, you may want to see if any parts are available under the Toastmaster name. They too were part of McGraw Edison. Their toasters were excellent.
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Post# 22624-9/30/2002-19:38 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Modern Maid/McGraw Edison built-in toaster? (COOL :) ...)
MESSAGE: Rick that is very, very cool..............I have NEVER seen anything like that.........
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Post# 22625-9/30/2002-21:04 ||| ()
SUBJECT: RE: Modern Maid/McGraw Edison built-in toaster?
MESSAGE: Some friends of my mothers got one of these as part of his bonus from work one Christmas, I thought it was the neatest thing I'd ever seen - how fun that yours is still around. Does it work now? The one I saw was not a Modern Maid, but I can't remember what it was - something like Broan or Nutone, but I don't remember for sure. Thanks for the pictures!
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Post# 22626-9/30/2002-21:10 ||| ()
SUBJECT: RE: Discarding Clothes - By Accident (No room, no room, no room...)
MESSAGE: Those items are off to the krusher. I opened up that Hoover washer and evidently the pump had been leaking a long, long time and it was possibly stored outside for a while. The inside of the cabinet was completely rusted. There were very few parts I was able to scavenge from it. I've seen nicer ones at sales and the like, so another nicer one is right around the corner. The GE dryer is gone too, I decided to have a look at that 1960 Whirlpool dryer (also sunny yellow) and discovered that the only reason it made so much noise is that the drum pulley was loose and wobbling on the drum shaft. I tightened it up and it works beautifully. I had no takers when I offered the WP dryer so I didn't figure I would for the BOL GE either. I saved the controls and control panel just in case though....
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Post# 22627-9/30/2002-21:33 ||| rick_auricchio (Cambria, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Modern Maid/McGraw Edison built-in toaster? (--and Nutone Food Center too)
MESSAGE: Yes, it works!
Amazingly, there was a broken one in our previous house. It was tiled into the backsplash, which was rotten. Luckily, I just slid the microwave over and hid it.
That house also had the built-in Nutone Food Center, but nary an attachment. This house, surprisingly, has an operating Nutone and all of its attachments. Matter of fact, I even have the special molded slide-out shelves. The shelves are molded with form-fit "holes" for all the attachments.
The Nutone Food Center will also be discarded about the first of the year when the old kitchen gets demolished. Again, if someone wants it...
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Post# 22628-9/30/2002-21:35 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: The Frigidaire 'Gallery' is Open!
MESSAGE: I took some pictures tonight of the laundry rooms after I moved the 55 Filtrator in next to her mate. I've been working on some new lighting in both rooms and will post some fun shots of that later - it's very romantic! These are the new pictures of the laundry rooms.
LINK: http://edit.photos.yahoo.com/edit/gansky1/fupload_parent?.dir=/Collection+Photos&.src=ph&.action=upload&.view=t&.vty=p&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Collection%2bPhotos%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 22629-9/30/2002-21:48 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Lighting is everything!
MESSAGE: I installed lighting under the shelves in the Frigidaire room and some in the south room above the Maytags too, what a difference good lighing or "staging" makes!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Frigidaire&.src=ph&.dnm=WO65.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Frigidaire%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 22630-9/30/2002-22:07 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: James Dishwasher
MESSAGE: Hi Rick, yes a vintage dishwasher with a selenium rectifier would be quite an interesting contraption, I just wouldn't want to be around if the poor thing let go with age and filled the room with poisonous gas, phew. Of course part of the dw restoration then would be replacing the selenium rectifier(s) with a modern diode and dropping resistor, thankfully we only have to do that in vintage TV restoration. :)
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Post# 22631-9/30/2002-22:09 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Discarding Clothes - By Accident (Ooopsie)
MESSAGE: OOOpsie, good thing you took one last look inside Greg.
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Post# 22632-9/30/2002-22:11 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: What washer is that? ('51 GE)
MESSAGE: Hi Jamie, that's my 1951 GE, just like the one Eddy restored recently...
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/unimatic1140/vwp?.dir=/General+Electric&.src=ph&.dnm=1951+GE.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/unimatic1140/lst%3f%26.dir=/General%2bElectric%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 22633-9/30/2002-22:13 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Lighting is everything!
MESSAGE: Heavenly!
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Post# 22634-9/30/2002-22:14 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Lighting is everything!
MESSAGE: Greg, what a "glamourous" effect. Looks great.
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Post# 22635-9/30/2002-22:16 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: The WD-57 Frigidaire Pulsamatic is Installed
MESSAGE: What fun! Pretty neat the way you carefully loaded the sweatshirt. That pulsator looks brand new...
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Post# 22636-9/30/2002-22:17 ||| Bendix5 (oregon)
SUBJECT: RE: Lighting is everything!
MESSAGE: Greg, You have a great laundry set up and the Frigidaire machines in your collection are wonderful pieces. The lighting is great. What did you use. I would like that in our Kitchen. Thank you all for the wonderful jobs you do with your restoration work. It is a pleasure every day to get up and see what is new at Applianceville. Dano
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Post# 22637-9/30/2002-22:20 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Lighting is everything!
MESSAGE: WOW, Greg, the Frigidaire Gallery looks beautiful, brought a tear to my eye. I can't wait to come down and see it in person!
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Post# 22638-9/30/2002-22:36 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Lighting is everything! (sweet !!)
MESSAGE: photos look awesome greg, what beautiful machines, your lucky to have them and they look mint, good for you ............
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Post# 22639-9/30/2002-22:37 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: The Frigidaire 'Gallery' is Open! (error message?)
MESSAGE: with regard to responding to this post I got an error message when trying to go to your link??
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Post# 22640-9/30/2002-23:58 ||| Ironrite (Las Vegas NV)
SUBJECT: RE: Two Questions (Flip Down Frigidaire Burners)
MESSAGE: When I lived in Missouri, the house I was renting had the kitchen redone sometime in the late 50's or early 60's. It had a rather nasty GE American range. BUT...it did have a wonderful Frigidaire stainless steel built in wall oven with, I believe, they're called "dutch doors." The oven had a small lip that flipped up over the two doors. It reminded me of the same design as hardtop design cars of the time, with the small lip that would flip up over the window glass in the doors to seal out wind and rain. Who knows what the weather might be inside your kitchen!
Now, this same house also had two Frigidaire flip down warming burners. Both stainless steel and I could actually use them for cooking. They heated very well and worked much better than the stove did! The burners were built into the wall and when lowered would rest on the countertop.
And too, I just bought a new Frigidaire Gallery set this past January. Other than a couple of small delivery glitches, I've had very good luck with my set, hope you enjoy yours as well!
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Post# 22641-10/1/2002-00:08 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Modern Maid/McGraw Edison built-in toaster? (--and Nutone Food Center too)
MESSAGE: hmmmm...are you sure you want a new kitchen? I think I like the sounds of your old one better! LOL
How large/bulky is the power unit for the Nutone Center?
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Post# 22642-10/1/2002-00:10 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Discarding Clothes - By Accident (No room, no room, no room...)
MESSAGE: are you going to forego having a garage dryer for now, or hook up a different one?
What is *up* with these Hoover washers and pumps? LOL The UK folks have the same issues.
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Post# 22643-10/1/2002-00:18 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The Frigidaire 'Gallery' is Open!
MESSAGE: That took me to some silly access denied message. This, I'm betting, is what you really wanted us to see. It looks great, although you moved everything about again. Certainly you will never grow tired of the arrangement of the laundry rooms! :)
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Frigidaire+1950+WO65+%26+TR60+Filtrator&.src=ph&.dnm=WO65+In+his+new+home.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Frigidaire%2b1950%2bWO65%2b%2526%2bTR60%2bFiltrator%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 22644-10/1/2002-00:23 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Lighting is everything!
MESSAGE: Those lights look wonderful! Except now, everything is in a different place again! (!) I must have been looking at some older pictures before, when I got that weird error message.
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Post# 22645-10/1/2002-00:48 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: GE dw model GSD940D-03 (year 1982) question on fill time?
MESSAGE: Greg, doesn't surprise me, given you're in the land of hot & cold running rocks. Clogged fopr sure.
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Post# 22646-10/1/2002-01:17 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Lighting is everything!
MESSAGE: Greg, it looks like a sophisticated appliance showroom!!!
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Post# 22647-10/1/2002-07:12 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Lighting is everything!
MESSAGE: Thanks for the nice comments everyone - makes the work worthwhile when you can share it with people who appreciate it! Digital pictures are usually very flattering and believe me, there are still some final touches that need to be done, but it's very exciting to get at least the one room looking nice. Thanks again - Greg
Here's a better link to the Frigidaire lighting, I'm not sure why I ended up with a link to add photos to this album, but this is the correct one now.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Frigidaire&.src=ph&.dnm=WO65.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Frigidaire%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 22648-10/1/2002-07:13 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: The Frigidaire 'Gallery' is Open!
MESSAGE: This is the link to the photo of the WO65 when he was moved into service - an exciting day for sure, but it gets better!
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Post# 22649-10/1/2002-07:14 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: The WD-57 Frigidaire Pulsamatic is Installed
MESSAGE: Isn't that cute - I loved the Kelvi shirt getting ready to be washed in Frigidaire!
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Post# 22650-10/1/2002-07:16 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Discarding Clothes - By Accident (Ooopsie)
MESSAGE: While I was working out in the garage, I kept thinking of other things that needed to be done. One of those things on my list was change the bedding - that was what reminded me of the white sheets, my favorite. I got to thinking about where they were and looked up at the van and just started to laugh!
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Post# 22651-10/1/2002-07:18 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Two Questions (Flip Down Frigidaire Burners)
MESSAGE: I saw one of these burner sets at a sale once. They had remodeled their kitchen in the late 70's and had kept one of these to compliment their 2 burner/grill Jenn-Air unit. A rather strange set up to say the least, but they were very cool looking. My mother was with us that day and was more amazed at my excitement over the burners!
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Post# 22652-10/1/2002-07:23 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Discarding Clothes - By Accident (No room, no room, no room...)
MESSAGE: It's confusing around here - sometimes I forget what I'm using until I get out to the garage and see it myself! I'm using the 1960 yellow Whirlpool dryer now. It is a TOL model, has an auto-dry cycle (which works quite well) and of course, a panel light and the all important ozone bulb which the GE didn't have. Got to have that extra sanitizing for the family wash - hee hee.
I'm under the impression that Hoover never made a reliable pump as all the machines in that Iowa store I saw all needed new pumps as I was told. I think the later ones with the pinch-type valve in the 70's were better, but they were very small pumps that were being asked to do a lot of work.
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Post# 22653-10/1/2002-08:25 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Discarding Clothes - By Accident (No room, no room, no room...)
MESSAGE: Well that's good. I"m glad you got the RCA dryer working better. :)
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Post# 22654-10/1/2002-08:34 ||| Montanaoverland (montana)
SUBJECT: kitchen queen 1962 vintage sink mounted appliance
MESSAGE: i have a 1962 sink mounted appliance that was featured in a new product line show in cal. back in 1962 and was used on the dick vandyke tv series on their sink. i found the complete unit with all the attachments that would allow me to make most anything from ice cream to bread dough and then some.since then i have not been able to find an other, nor am i able to deterime if it is of any value? would like someone to help? thank you.
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Post# 22655-10/1/2002-09:03 ||| rick_auricchio (Cambria, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Modern Maid/McGraw Edison built-in toaster? (--and Nutone Food Center too)
MESSAGE: The power unit for the Nutone is about 5x12x7. It extends about 5" below the counter. The 12" dimension is front-to-back, i.e. from the edge of the counter toward the backsplash. It has a hardwire connector.
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Post# 22656-10/1/2002-11:19 ||| eugene (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: New Frigidaire Gallery Set
MESSAGE: Gansky---did you say you purchased new Frigi Gallery appliances? I bought a house in July and went with an all-Frigidaire lineup. I went for the top-of-the-line stainless convection electric and gas ranges, the stainless dishwasher (love the half-load option for top or bottom rack), a big honkin' stainless fridge and the top-console front-load washer and a mid-line dryer. It's a shame they don't make a stainless interior available for the dishwasher line, but it looks great on the outside! I think the electric range is the most stylish of the lot and will be collector-worthy someday. I like the little digital readout windows for each burner. I lucked out in the kitchen; there was a connection for both electric and gas ranges. I removed a cabinet and went for two ranges, which was worth the loss of some storage space. Best of all, I got all the appliances for a shade under $4G, which just can't be beaten. Nor can the $275 in rebate checks from Frigi.
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Post# 22657-10/1/2002-12:34 ||| Eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Lighting is everything!
MESSAGE: Very cool pictures Greg. I love lighted appliances too.
That's a real neat SQ filter/fabric softener dispenser you found. I've never seen one like it before. Let us know how well it works.
Eddy
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Post# 22658-10/1/2002-13:44 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Lighting is everything!
MESSAGE: Hey Greg, really wonderful pictures, very professional and very stylish, shivers down the spine kind of pictures. I think I told you before I used many of your pictures for my desktop. Well, these pictures are desktop material again!!
Thanks for sharing them, I hope to visit your laundryroom sometime.
Louis
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Post# 22659-10/2/2002-14:25 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The WD-57 Frigidaire Pulsamatic is Installed
MESSAGE: Hi Bob, the '55 Pulsamatic is going where the '51 Zenith Front-Loading TV is now, as I'm getting ready to start restoration on that monster.
The '55 Pulsamtic is now making a strange noise and I'm taking it out of service until I get a chance to work on it sometime during the winter.
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Post# 22660-10/2/2002-16:42 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: Hurricane Lili
MESSAGE: I know this is off-topic, but not everybody reads the Sandbox regularly.
It seems that JasonL and TCox6912 are gonna get hit by Hurricane Lili.
Everyone, please keep them in your thoughts and prayers.
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Post# 22661-10/2/2002-17:02 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: kitchen queen 1962 vintage sink mounted appliance
MESSAGE: Can you post pictures of this appliance somewhere?
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Post# 22662-10/2/2002-17:05 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: New Frigidaire Gallery Set
MESSAGE: Oh no - I was just using a play on words for one my laundry rooms that is full of vintage GM Frigidaire washers and dryers! I have a Frigidaire range, a 1958 40" beauty in charcoal gray. The newest Frigidaire (by name only) that I have is a dehumidifier that I purchased new in 1998, the loudest appliance I have ever heard!
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Post# 22663-10/2/2002-17:06 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Hurricane Lili (Be safe!)
MESSAGE: Please be careful! I really don't you two to get hurt!
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Post# 22664-10/2/2002-17:08 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Lighting is everything!
MESSAGE: You can visit anytime! Maybe I'll have to host everyone here sometime for one of those "C" word events ;-)
I'm glad you enjoyed the pictures, I had fun taking them, such beautiful subject matter makes it even more fun. I was snapping away and when I went to edit them and post them, I'd taken over 50 pictures! I still have a photo of my WO65 throwing the water on my desktop, I think it's time for a change too!
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Post# 22665-10/2/2002-17:13 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Lighting is everything! (vintage photography)
MESSAGE: You are getting to be quite the expert with that camera. :-)
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Post# 22666-10/2/2002-17:24 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Dear Uni...
MESSAGE: Uni in your Norge Timeline, did you change the agitator when you took video with the burp-up agitator? What does this agitator look like I could not get a clear image of it. My mom wants to know what it looks like because she says that it moves the clothes better than she has ever seen. Could I please have a picture to keep and treasure?
Best Washes
-Jamie-
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Post# 22667-10/2/2002-19:08 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Dear Uni... (of course)
MESSAGE: Dear Pulsator, yes I did change the agitator in the Norge and of course you can have a picture to keep and treasure :)...
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/miscbrands00/lst?.dir=/Norge+Burp-a-lator&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/
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Post# 22668-10/2/2002-21:18 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Hurricane Lili
MESSAGE: Glenn, I hope these guys have gotten out of town. The forecast is very ominous right now. This seems a lot like Andrew; small but very ferocious nonetheless. You are right, the residents of Louisiana need our thoughts & prayers. Hopefully, we'll hear from Jason & TCox soon.
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Post# 22669-10/2/2002-21:22 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Hurricane Lili
MESSAGE: Thanks, guys. I have put my prized 65 Frigidaire Rapidry up on blocks just in case we flood. I live 6 blocks away from Lake Pontchartrain, and we are prepared for a fierce one. My home has withstood many hurricanes, but I am worried about Jason's trailer ... please keep him in your thoughts and prayers. I am glad to be a part of such a wonderful group of folks.
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Post# 22670-10/2/2002-21:30 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: The WD-57 Frigidaire Pulsamatic is Installed
MESSAGE: Robert, I'm greatly relieved that all Pulsamatics are accounted for. You know how I feel about that '55 Pulsamatic (so did everyone else within a 2-story ear-shot). I look forward to seeing the'57 one in action some day. Hopefully then, I'll be able to do a side-x-side comparison. I wish you well in tracking down the source of the strange noise. I'll start sending positive thoughts that it's something very minor. And thanks for pulling it out of service until then!!!! And please remember to give both Pulsamatics hugs for me. (Boy am I addicted to Frigidaires & front loaders or WHAT!!!)
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Post# 22671-10/2/2002-21:34 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Hurricane Lili
MESSAGE: I'd emailed Jason within the last two weeks the last time a tropical depression had hit near NO. Jason told me he'd gone insland, had no thoughts whatsoever of staying in the trailer, which I was greatly relieved of. I'm sure he's taking the same precautions now. And I hope Todd & his partner are doing the same.
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Post# 22672-10/2/2002-21:39 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Hurricane Lili (Todd)
MESSAGE: See my previous post. Y'all are in my thoughts & prayers. I lived through Hurricane Carla so I remember. I'm glad for this reason alone I no longer live in Houston. (And for anyone's curiousity, Hurricane Carla was responsible for the extensive coverage that yielded Dan Rather to a national level and a national career). Other than the constant wind & rain, my other memories are having no electricity, washing dishes wishout the Waste King in a clorox solution & having dry ice in the 1948 Norge deep freezer.
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Post# 22673-10/2/2002-22:03 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: The WD-57 Frigidaire Pulsamatic is Installed (Preliminary Diagnosis?)
MESSAGE: Have you made a guess as to what the noise might be? It's during agitation you hear the noise?
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Post# 22674-10/3/2002-07:13 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The WD-57 Frigidaire Pulsamatic is Installed (Preliminary Diagnosis?)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg, the noise is only happening during agitation. It's a banging type of noise, like something is loose. I suspect it's external to transmission, possibly the cross-brace.
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Post# 22675-10/3/2002-07:57 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT: Which Washed Better?
MESSAGE: I've watched the Betty Furness "cup o' sand" video; is it REALLY true? Did Westinghouse make front loaders all through the 60's? When or why did they stop? In your opinions, did the front loaders or the top loaders of the 50's work better? Some of you guys would have the chance to compare; some of you(lucky guys!!) even have both types on hand. What about the newer front loaders? Do they perform well?
A house I rented a few years ago had a front loading, late 70's -early 80's White- Westinghouse washer and matching dryer. It seems like it did a pretty good job of cleaning my clothes. The fact that it used less water helped keep the septic system clear. I saw that washer about a month ago; it is getting rather rusty around the rubber door seal. The house is now being used for weekly summer rentals; I'm sure that the tenants don't take time to wipe up any remaining moisture.
That brings up another question: When one of you does discover a "dream machine" that has some rust, how do you repair it? Do you use some sort of auto body filler for rusted through spots?
Thanks guys(and gals?!?), I'd appreciate your input. I really enjoy the posts and photos. The 50's appliances certainly had more flair than many of the later ones.
Duane
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Post# 22676-10/3/2002-08:14 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Hurricane Lili (Hi and Dry)
MESSAGE: Lili is right now striking land about 180 mi west of New Orleans. We got some 50mph winds last night and we'll get more of the same today, but not hurricane strength. My trailer is bolted down so it would have to be a strong wind to blow it over.
We're doing ok over here.
BTW, I washed in my mom's Maytag last night. One thing I got to say. Next time I'm inside that machine changing a belt or whatever, that @#$@%@! lid switch is getting hacked. I'm tired of having to stick my finger behind the lid to watch it run. And another thing. I miss the old Kenmore dryer. That new Frigidaire dryer ain't worth the plastic it's made from.
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Post# 22677-10/3/2002-08:16 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Hurricane Lili (65 Frig)
MESSAGE: You know, there's always a welcome spot in my trailer for the precious 65 if you need it to be stored HEHEHE :-D
Boy that would be fun. Pulsating and 1000rpm. A little 12lb hurricane!
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Post# 22678-10/3/2002-08:31 ||| eugene (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: Those #@$%! New Frigi Dryers/Hurricanes
MESSAGE: jasonl-- glad to hear you're bolted down, and I'm in full agreement about the safety lid switches on Maytag machines. I've always felt lid switches are the laundry industry's version of the helmet law, ha-ha. I've had two Frigi/Electrolux dryers and have not liked either one. Why the GE/Whirlpool axis can have a 7 cu. ft. drum while the Frigi's can only muster a shirt-wrinkling 5.5 cu. ft. or whatever, is beyond me. The gas dryer that came with my 1st generation FrigiLux front loader used to scorch clothes if the load was large. My new electric hasn't had that problem, but both drums pick up dye readily. I haven't been able to dry black jeans in either of the dryers without spending time with a sponge and a bottle of 409 to remove a layer of black from the drum.
Good luck through the storm! Hang on tight.
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Post# 22679-10/3/2002-09:01 ||| Ironrite (Las Vegas NV)
SUBJECT: RE: Those #@$%! New Frigi Dryers/Hurricanes (Since it's new...)
MESSAGE: I also have that same set of Frigidaire W/D. I have a couple of questions on your dryer as well. I'll ask them in the Sandbox.
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Post# 22680-10/3/2002-09:25 ||| eugene (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: Frigi-Lux Dryers
MESSAGE: Ironrite-- I keep reading about the Sandbox, but don't know where it is. Can someone help me out on this point?
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Post# 22681-10/3/2002-10:16 ||| Ironrite (Las Vegas NV)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigi-Lux Dryers (Link to Sandbox)
MESSAGE: This is where new(er) appliances or off-topic discussions are going on. It's through Yahoo and they have pretty good instructions on how to log in and join the group.
Just click on the link below and it should take you there. In that group, I'm Cougarmike...Ironrite was already taken!!
LINK: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Applianceville-Sandbox/
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Post# 22682-10/3/2002-11:01 ||| shawn (Waterford Ct)
SUBJECT: Westinghouse laundromats
MESSAGE: In the early to mid 60's there was a laundry in town that had coin-op Westinghouse front loader's. They were rather small and colored a light blue with a metal door and glass window.The tub was tilted on an angle for easy loading. This was the only laundry I ever saw these machines in. Does anyone remember these washers? ( I loved when someone would come in and pour a huge amount of soap in it, and suds would come flowing out all over the laundry.
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Post# 22683-10/3/2002-12:30 ||| cycla-fabric (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse laundromats (Blue Westinghouse Laundromat)
MESSAGE: Hi Shawn,
Yes I remember those models too, and you are correct in the description. Jeff or John, I am not sure which one, but they are club members and one of them has one of those very machines in his collection. I remember seeing that machine at the convention this past summer. It’s a machine that had to be bolted down I think, with a small tub, yet I remember it only cost a quarter to do a load of laundry in it.
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Post# 22684-10/3/2002-12:37 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: Hello All!
MESSAGE: Hello everyone!
I am back and dry in Atlanta from a 2.5 week stay with family in New Orleans. Decided to come back because it was time, and I did not want to go through another tropical storm! The first one was enough, and this one was going to be much worse!
Just wanted to say that I caught up on all of the post, and wanted to thank everyone that posted pictures of the wonderful finds that you all have aquired! I am so amazed, and happy that these machines were saved!
Hope that everyone is doing well!
Just wanted to say hello!
Brent
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Post# 22685-10/3/2002-13:17 ||| eugene (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: Westinghouse Laundromats
MESSAGE: Shawn-- We had the same machines at my small hometown laundromat. The water inlet was located right above the door on the outside of the machine. Water sprayed into a hole above the door that led to the tub. (This was the same hole you'd pour the Downy into when the final rinse fill started.) You could put your finger up against the inlet tube and spray water all over the place! Not that I ever did anything like that, of course. ;) I recall these machines cost a quarter to operate and had the slowest spin speed I've ever seen. In the 1970's, I saw similar machines but without external access to the water inlet, which spoiled fun for kids at laundromats all over the country, no doubt.
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Post# 22686-10/3/2002-17:44 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Which Washed Better?
MESSAGE: Is it really true? I'm sure it was somewhat true, but remember, it was advertising so the results were probably somewhat (or a whole bunch) exaggerated. For sand and grit, a front loader will usually perform better - but in my '49 Westinghouse, I don't normally add sand, let alone a whole bucket full! A solid basket top loader could never handle the amount of sand poured into them on the commercial, even if the producers had made sure each machine had adequate water pressure to operate properly. In the sand test, the Westinghouse seemingly does quite well, but it wasn't an exceptional washer overall. For the vinatage machines, the top-loaders win the prize for overall washability hands down.
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Post# 22687-10/3/2002-17:50 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Hello All!
MESSAGE: Welcome back - I wondered if you were still in NO for the weather, glad to hear everyone is OK.
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Post# 22688-10/3/2002-20:52 ||| JOESPLACE (col,oh)
SUBJECT:
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Post# 22689-10/3/2002-21:21 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT: RE: Which Washed Better?
MESSAGE: Thanks! Is that why one doesn't hear much of 60's Westinghouse front loaders? Anyone else have an opinion?
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Post# 22690-10/3/2002-21:22 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT: RE: Which Washed Better?
MESSAGE: Thanks! Is that why one doesn't hear much of 60's Westinghouse front loaders? Anyone else have an opinion?
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Post# 22691-10/3/2002-22:46 ||| joeekaitis (Rialto, California, USA)
SUBJECT: RE: Which Washed Better? (Possibly, it was their retort to Consumer Reports)
MESSAGE: Product tests of the Westinghouse Laundromat front-loaders by Consumer Reports usually rated them as much worse than average in removing fine sand, which was added in a measured amount to all of the machines they tested.
Perhaps the TV spot was their way of trying to prove Consumer Reports wrong.
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Post# 22692-10/3/2002-23:53 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse laundromats (Blue Westinghouse Laundromat)
MESSAGE: It's Jeff & Cal who have this machine in the collection. Saw it the first nite of our get togethers.
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Post# 22693-10/4/2002-07:52 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Which Washed Better? (Possibly, it was their retort to Consumer Reports)
MESSAGE: In 1954, CU reported the Laundromat handled large amounts of sand relatively well, but overall washing ability was below average and tangled clothes excessively. Not only were they trying to play up the sand disposal ability, but probably dispell issues of tangling and washing ability with the sparkling white clothes coming out of the machine.
You can read all of the Consumer's Reports articles and Consumer's Research Bulletin aritcles on this site - they are very interesting!
LINK: http://www.classicappliances.com/RATE%20PAGES/LIST-INDEX.htm
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Post# 22694-10/4/2002-07:54 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse laundromats (Blue Westinghouse Laundromat)
MESSAGE: Didn't anybody take a picture of this washer at Jeff & Cal's? I don't have one in my album, but I'm sure someone does.
I think Jeff nearly has this machine running again, but needs the clamping band that joins the front and back halves of the outer tub together to finish it.
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Post# 22695-10/4/2002-08:04 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse laundromats (Was Jeff's a coin-op or a home version?)
MESSAGE: That was such a nice looking machine!
Was that a home version? Or a Coin-Op machine? I don't remember. I wonder if the wash would be any different from the set that Robert has. It kinda looks like the insides are the same from cut away photo's that I have seen somewhere.
I do remember somone posting a picture of that Jeff's machine. I just don't remember who it was.
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Post# 22696-10/4/2002-08:12 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: tilt out washer?!
MESSAGE: Does anyone know what the washer in picture on http://doityourself.com/appliance/washing.htm
is? Interesting design!
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Post# 22697-10/4/2002-08:42 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: tilt out washer?! (1984 Speed Queen)
MESSAGE: Check out this link to Gansky's site.
Brent
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Ads+Articles+Brochures&.src=ph&.dnm=1984+Speed+Queen+Stacked.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Ads%2bArticles%2bBrochures%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 22698-10/4/2002-08:53 ||| pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: tilt out washer?!
MESSAGE: It is truely a forbidden cycle.
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Post# 22699-10/4/2002-11:42 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Hurricane Lili (Hi and Dry)
MESSAGE: Good to hear you weathered the storm so well. I figured when I heard that it had lost strength that you'd be ok, but it's good to have confirmation.
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Post# 22700-10/4/2002-14:43 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse laundromats (Was Jeff's a coin-op or a home version?)
MESSAGE: Jeff's was a coin-op machine. There was also a version of this washer sold for home use as well - dubbed the "Streamliner" isn't that cute? These were both bolt-down machines and therefore spun at 350-370 rpm. The familiar slant front Westys that I, Robert and several others have are the suspension models as were seen in the Sand Test commercial.
Here's a picture of the bolt-down machine:
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Ads+Articles+Brochures&.src=ph&.dnm=Laundromat+Streamliner+RL1.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Ads%2bArticles%2bBrochures%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 22701-10/4/2002-14:46 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: tilt out washer?!
MESSAGE: And all but forbidden servicing too! What a nightmare these must be.
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Post# 22702-10/4/2002-14:53 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: tilt out washer?! (tilt out floor washer?)
MESSAGE: I would like to think that the washer locked in upright in use, or oi,what a mess it would make, like you never saw before!
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Post# 22703-10/4/2002-17:56 ||| eugene (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: Westy Streamliner
MESSAGE: Thanks for the pic of the Streamliner----and for confirming my memory that it had a very s-l-o-w spin speed. And it's even the one you can cause to spray water all over the room!
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Post# 22704-10/4/2002-19:28 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse laundromats (Interesting information for me!)
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg for that information. I did not know until you said so that the version that all of you have had a suspension. I thought that they were all bolt down.
Did they actually have shocks? Or was the suspended by springs at the top?
I would love to see one of these in action. I did not know that you had one Greg. So you have a washer / dryer set?
Brent
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Post# 22705-10/4/2002-20:40 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse laundromats (Interesting information for me!)
MESSAGE: There are springs and snubbers at the top and snubbers on the sides and bottom of the 'suspended assembly' which is the tub, motor, speed changer, and pump. There are two shockingly heavy cast iron counter weights bolted to the top of the tub to keep it all in balance.
I do have a 1949 washer & dryer set, although I think the speed changer is going out in it, making some terrible noises. I might try changing the oil if I can find out what kind of oil to use. I might even have another speed changer around here somewhere that I could try.
Here are some pictures of the washer restoration and the set together. They really are beautiful, even if they weren't the top performing machines in their day - the washer still scores very high on the "drama-meter!"
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/thesheerlook/lst?.dir=/Westinghouse+Laundromat+L5+Restoration&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/thesheerlook/lst%3f%26.dir=/Westinghouse%2bLaundromat%2bL5%2bRestoration%26.src=ph%26.view=t&.view=t
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Post# 22706-10/4/2002-20:53 ||| Jenmg (Grand Rapids, MI)
SUBJECT: Gas Stoves - Universal (Cribben & Sexton)
MESSAGE: Anyone out there indulge in anything other than washers?
I have a Universal stove from late 40s/early 50s, double-oven, double-broiler, 6 burners. I need another burner grate and stove & oven knobs. Anyone have them or know where I can get them (I know I can get repro stove knobs at antique gas stoves)?
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Post# 22707-10/4/2002-21:19 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse laundromats (Interesting information for me!)
MESSAGE: Greg
I love the Westy
Peter
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Post# 22708-10/4/2002-23:51 ||| variflexpghpa (Pittsburgh, PA)
SUBJECT: RE: tilt out washer?!
MESSAGE: hey I am a real novice compared to you washer pros.. but I had the unique experience of owning one of SpeedQueen nightmares. I was in a condo I owned. Yes.. when the washer died with a full tub of water... the fun began
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Post# 22709-10/5/2002-00:02 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse laundromats (Blue Westinghouse Laundromat)
MESSAGE: I remember there's a pic with the machine in the background, but I don't recall one specifically devoted to this machine. However Glenn still hasn't posted his pics yet.
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Post# 22710-10/5/2002-06:13 ||| Bill-mo (Brookline Station, MO)
SUBJECT: New Member
MESSAGE: Hi Everyone,
My name is Bill and I am near Springfield, MO. Have enjoyed vintage washers/dryers/dishwashers for all of my life. Don't have a collection like the other members, but enjoy viewing the pics/movies that have been offered here. Got tired of lurking around on the website and thought I would introduce myself.
Saw this on eBay this morning, thought I would share it with everyone. Thought that some of you would be interested in a 1950 ABC-O-Matic Washing Machine GuideBook.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=720979661
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Post# 22711-10/5/2002-07:41 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: New Member (Welcome to the club Bill!)
MESSAGE: Hello Bill,
I went to college for awhile in Springfield. That was quite awhile back, and I am sure that things have changed there.
I have heard several people say that Mo. was a state where Frigidaire was very popular. I also remember many Frigidaire washers and dryers in the dorms where I lived the first semester. Do venture out to used appliance places and find this to be true? Or at estate sales?
You could be a point of contact for us if you can find vintage Frigidaire washers and dryers, and such. I am sure that we would make it worth your while.
Again Welcome!
Brent
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Post# 22712-10/5/2002-09:08 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: New Member (Welcome to the club Bill!)
MESSAGE: Hi and welcome to the club!
If you have any interest in collecting vintage appliances, you are in a prime locale to have some great success. I talked to an appliance repair shop there in Springfield once that told me in that area used be a very big GM Frigidaire distributor. With your proximity to St. Louis, Lake of the Ozarks and so many resort towns, you should have good luck! My parents lived in Mountain Home, AR and there was an appliance store there that has a turquoise Maytag washer and dryer and as you probably know, there are junkyards scattered all over!
Best of luck and welcome again!
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Post# 22713-10/5/2002-09:49 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New Member
MESSAGE: Well hi Bill, welcome to the club, glad you found us and joined in!
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Post# 22714-10/5/2002-10:05 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New Member ((Welcome to the club Bill))
MESSAGE: Welcome Bill. Glad to know there's another guy out there who has been a lifelong crazy about washers, dryers, and dishwashers. And someone from Missouri, prime Frigidaire country!!!
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Post# 22715-10/5/2002-14:47 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: New Member
MESSAGE: Welcome, Bill. I've only joined a few weeks ago myself. This is a dream site come true for me. Like you, I've been a washer fan ever since I was a little boy. Didn't realize there were so many others like me out there. The photos and links here are terrific and the other members are always helpful in answering my endless questions. Of course I'm extremely jealous of some of these guys collections. I wish I had a basement so I could collect a few machines myself. My second favorite vintage appliances are window unit air conditioners especially from the 50's and 60's. Those are the decades I think washers were the most fun and interesting too.
Les
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Post# 22716-10/5/2002-14:59 ||| cleanteamofny (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: New Member (Welcome to Applianceville)
MESSAGE: I like to welcome you with an open lid and great agitational hand shake that you will find this club enjoyable and fastinating!
Welcome to the group!
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Post# 22717-10/5/2002-15:13 ||| Bill-MO (Brookline Station, MO)
SUBJECT: Thank You to Everyone
MESSAGE: My thanks to everyone that has welcomed me to the club. Thought I would also give some childhood background as to my favourite machines. My grandmother (on my father's side) had a Maytag with the water switch in the lid and the clutch that made the awful sound. My grandma (on my mother's side) had the Bendix Economat until lightning hit it and had to have it replaced back in the 70's. Neighbors growing up had a Frigidaire that I would make every excuse in the world to go over and play with their machine. My mom started out with GE (still liked the Mini-Basket system, wish they had never done away with it), then got a Kelvinator with the pop-up unbalancer with the window in the lid, then got Maytag which she still uses. Keep telling Mom that she needs an FL, but she argues that you can't open the machine once it's running (not wise to argue with Mom). I wish I knew the model numbers for reference points.
So far, as to the pics and videos on the various sites, I have compiled at least 3 maybe 4 cd's which I have burned the pics/videos onto. I figure that way I can watch them anytime I want and can share them with Mom too.
Also growing up, I grew up in Neosho MO, there was a GE distributor that had a large assortment of appliances in the back of the building. My father would take me there once in a while to get a washer to bring home and take apart. I should have known back then that I should have gotten into washer/dryer repair, but I didn't. Now, I regret it! :-(
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Post# 22718-10/5/2002-15:59 ||| shawn (Waterford Ct)
SUBJECT: RE: New Member
MESSAGE: Welcome Bill, Hope you enjoy this website. I find it better than T,V.
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Post# 22719-10/5/2002-16:21 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: New Member (Welcome!)
MESSAGE: Hi Bill,
Welcome to a realy Great Club
Peter
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Post# 22720-10/5/2002-17:09 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: New Member (Welcome!)
MESSAGE: Bill, I too am a relative new comer. The other members not only have been welcoming, but don't seem to snicker at my pedantic questions! I love the POD have joined the sandbox and feel very comfortable now that I have decided to come out (of the laundry room!).
Good luck hope you'll enjoy it.
Tom
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Post# 22721-10/5/2002-19:20 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Thank You to Everyone
MESSAGE: Bill-Mo, thanks for giving us some background on ya. I'd look at your profile and there wasn't anything there. Too bad ya didn't get into the repair business, a couple of our members have tha as their livlihood. Thanks again for the background, I was gonna post and ask you what got you fascinated in the first place. BTW, what about dishwashers, you mentioned those too.
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Post# 22722-10/5/2002-21:28 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: New Member
MESSAGE: Watching my Kenmore front loader with the glass window onthe door is far better than most T.V. shows. Someone needs to tell Maytag that they need to add a glass window to their frontloading neptune machines.
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Post# 22723-10/5/2002-22:18 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Maytag Circa Dryer Found!
MESSAGE: I found a maytag circa dryer on ebay. If anybody is in a wanting mood...
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2059942619
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Post# 22724-10/5/2002-23:56 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Onwers Manual of the Month
MESSAGE: Hello out there in Applianceville, if you look on the home page, there is a new feature called "Owners Manual of the Month". As long as I can keep up and the scanner doesn't break, there will be a new owners manual every month to read and enjoy. Check it out from the home page.
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Post# 22725-10/6/2002-08:16 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: RE: Onwers Manual of the Month
MESSAGE: Robert, What a great idea. The guys and I love to read the manuals, as they are so informative on how an appliance is really supposed to work. Thanks for the wonderful idea!
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Post# 22726-10/6/2002-09:24 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Onwers Manual of the Month (omom)
MESSAGE: What a great idea. I have been known to order owners manuals before appliance purchase just to see how the unit is really going to work. Don't have much to offer but I will keep my eyes open for old manuals for you.
Tom
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Post# 22727-10/6/2002-09:31 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Onwers Manual of the Month (Home Service!)
MESSAGE: Thanks Robert- this is a great idea!
I love the "Suggestions for Home Servicing" - I wonder how many people actually did that on a regular basis...
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Post# 22728-10/6/2002-10:24 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: New Member (i agree)
MESSAGE: lesto, i could not agree more ... ... ...
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Post# 22729-10/6/2002-10:25 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: New Member (welcome)
MESSAGE: Welcome Bill, enjoy !!
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Post# 22730-10/6/2002-12:09 ||| todde (longbeach, IN)
SUBJECT: Tide's Vintage Packaging
MESSAGE: I was at Wal-Mart yesterday and noticed that on the large powdered Tide (80 uses) that it was a vintage box. The more faded out color packaging with Tide the wash day miracle logo. It was really sharp looking, and of course ended up in my cart!
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Post# 22731-10/6/2002-14:36 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: New Member (i agree)
MESSAGE: I just sent an e-mail to Maytag about the neptune washer door. I said that it should be "optional to have a window door." Maybe they will fall for it.
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Post# 22732-10/6/2002-17:12 ||| junior (fairmont)
SUBJECT: favorite antique range
MESSAGE: I have an old favorite range that was my great grandmothers.
can any one tell me anything about it and if it is worth anything
Thank You
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Post# 22733-10/6/2002-17:19 ||| joesplace (col,oh)
SUBJECT: perfection stove
MESSAGE: LOOKING 4 INFO ON A PERFECTION STOV -MODLE #1052
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Post# 22734-10/6/2002-17:27 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: perfection stove (Stove Info)
MESSAGE: To get the best and most reliable information on antique/vintage stoves, try www.antiquestoves.com.
LINK: http://www.antiquestoves.com
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Post# 22735-10/6/2002-17:28 ||| joesplace (col,oh)
SUBJECT: WORKING @ APPLIANCE RECYCLE CENTER
MESSAGE: HELLO
IM WORKING AT A APPLIANCE RECYCLE CENTER @HAVE ACESS /AQUIRED /ALOT OF ANTIQUE APPLIANCES =HOW EVER I DONT KNOW WHO TO CONTACT OR WHAT 2 DO W/ THEMIM SURE THERES ALOT OF COLLECTORS BUT HOW DO I CONTACT THEM OR WHO= ANY & ALL HELP GREATLY APPRECIATED
E-MAIL=Y.GROVE@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Post# 22736-10/6/2002-18:18 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: GM Frigidaire Questions
MESSAGE: When did the good old days of GM Frigidaire stop? Why did it stop?
P.S. This is for a school paper I am writing.
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Post# 22737-10/6/2002-18:19 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: WORKING @ APPLIANCE RECYCLE CENTER (What kinds?)
MESSAGE: Do they have any GM Frigidaire 1/18 washers? I would love one.
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Post# 22738-10/6/2002-18:22 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New Member (i agree)
MESSAGE: Yes Gregm and Lesto, I couldn't agree more. But I've argued with Maytag until I'm blue in the face. The answer is a repeated no, will never be under consideration.
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Post# 22739-10/6/2002-18:39 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: New pics added
MESSAGE: I have added pics of my WP portable DW to my photo albums, and there is also a new album for the new washers I got last week at my laundromat. Enjoy!
-ph
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/vwp?.dir=/WP+DW&.src=ph&.dnm=WP+portable+with+Benita.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/lst%3f%26.dir=/WP%2bDW%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 22740-10/6/2002-19:04 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: RE: New pics added
MESSAGE: Hi Peter, I like the dishwasher, but LOVE the cat! Im a big animal lover here too. Whats the cats name? WhilryPoo? Ha
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Post# 22741-10/6/2002-19:28 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Onwers Manual of the Month (Onwers Manual of the Month)
MESSAGE: Robert,
This is real Great
Thanks,
Peter
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Post# 22742-10/6/2002-19:44 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: New pics added (New pics)
MESSAGE: Hi Pete
Real cool DW - does the upper spray get in the way of loading and unloading? Is this a 60's model?
Peter
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Post# 22743-10/6/2002-19:46 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire 1-18 “Query”
MESSAGE: Hi everybody. It’s been a while.
Found and purchased a 1978 1-18 (WCIG) at a suburban Detroit Salvation Army store a couple of weeks ago. It look like it can be restored to almost new looking status after the body is refinished. The porcelain top looks like new after almost twenty-five years. The spin cycle seemed fine at the store, but I haven’t yet run it with water to check out the agitation. I’ve taken it apart since getting it home, and I’m trying to decide whether to take it to a professional for painting. I don’t think a spray can paint job would do it justice. Any advice on refinishing? Bump/collision shop perhaps?
Also, on a related subject just a week or so later I found a 1977 WC6 at another appliance store and bought it thinking it would at least be good for parts. The belt was missing and when turning the tub there was a bit of a squeal when turning it in either direction. I bought it anyway. Does this mean there is a main part or bearing worn out? Or is it irrelevant and a reflection of the missing belt? Any thoughts? I’ll get a new belt, put it all back together and see what happens.
Does anyone have a copy from the repair manual for belt replacement or the agitate arm adjustment procedure? I'm assuming they will both at least need that done. I had a copy from my gold 1-18 pair, but can’t seem to find it.
Help or advice would be appreciated.
Ken
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Post# 22744-10/6/2002-22:26 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Madam, did you ever think of drinking the rinse water from your washing machine?
MESSAGE: Two new commercials added from Bendixman-Bruce's collection tonight in our video library. One for Dash and one for Wisk, see how long it takes you to figure out the brand of that wonderful vintage agitating top loader in the Wisk commercial.
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Post# 22745-10/6/2002-23:04 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: WORKING @ APPLIANCE RECYCLE CENTER
MESSAGE: Joe
Check out the classified ad sections on this club's home page. They will give you an idea of some of the things folks are searching for, as well as some of the things being offered for sale.
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Post# 22746-10/6/2002-23:25 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Thank You to Everyone
MESSAGE: welcome to the club Bill!!
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Post# 22747-10/6/2002-23:45 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New pics added
MESSAGE: Peter. That's a great dishwasher. What are the cycle buttons?
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Post# 22748-10/7/2002-00:05 ||| laundromat (florida)
SUBJECT: RE: GM Frigidaire Questions ("
black friday"
)
MESSAGE: On April 1st,1979,General Motors slammed the car door on Frigidaire.They kept the factories on Taylor street in Dayton,Ohio and Sold the name and copyrights to White Consolidated Industries for a Fraction of an amount they were worth.WCI consisted of White Westinghouse,Gibson,Kelvinator,Hamilton,Franklin,Eureka,Philco and Vista.Of all the brands out back then,they(WCI) were the least dependable and had so many problems that for the next 17 years,Frigidaire went from a well known and liked household name to a verry much hated word on the appliance sales floor where the name "FRIGI-SCARE"was used for years as well as "WESTINGLOUSE","Jipson"and "KELVINLATER".Even now,their products aren't that keen on dependability but they have improved since being bought out by Electrolux of Sweeden(not affiliated with Electrolux vaccuum cleaner company of America)who own abought 85% of the appliance brands in Europe and Asia.
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Post# 22749-10/7/2002-00:49 ||| Bill-MO (Brookline Station, MO)
SUBJECT: RE: Madam, did you ever think of drinking the rinse water from your washing machine?
MESSAGE: When I d/led the above stated commercial video, I kept getting the 10 Foot Tall Washer Dash commercial. Has anyone else had this problem?
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Post# 22750-10/7/2002-04:05 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: Kleenmaid (Speed Queen) question
MESSAGE: Hi all.
I need some advice about dismantling a Kleenmaid washing machine, which is made by Speed Queen. It is a modern unit so I will take this to the sandbox. Anyone with knowledge about Speed Queen washers of about ten years age, could you please take a look.
Thanks
Chris
LINK: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Applianceville-Sandbox/message/555
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Post# 22751-10/7/2002-07:07 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Madam, did you ever think of drinking the rinse water from your washing machine?
MESSAGE: Ooops, all fixed.
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Post# 22752-10/7/2002-08:02 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire 1-18 “Query”
MESSAGE: Hi Ken,
I'll make a couple of copies for you today and put them in with your parts info I still (!) need to mail out to you. There are some parts that are subject to wear and might need replacement in the agitate arm, just like mine...
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Post# 22753-10/7/2002-08:04 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Madam, did you ever think of drinking the rinse water from your washing machine?
MESSAGE: Absolutely wonderful - thanks for posting those great additions to our library and thanks again Bendixman for submitting those great commercials!
Oh, that washer in the Wisk commercial has been a POD a few times - how fun to see it running, Jimmy (filterflow) will like that a whole bunch too!
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Post# 22754-10/7/2002-08:06 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Kleenmaid (Speed Queen) question
MESSAGE: I'll check my book later today when I get home from work - I should have what you need.
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Post# 22755-10/7/2002-08:07 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: New pics added
MESSAGE: Thanks for the pics - the DW looks like a lot of fun - what year is that?
The 'mat looks great with all the new machines - and the banners too. There were no pics of the GE top loaders?
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Post# 22756-10/7/2002-08:58 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: New pics added
MESSAGE: That is Benita the Terror. She's always in the middle of whatever I am doing. She's only 1.5 years old, so she terrorizes the other 4 cats in the house who are 10+ years old now (Sylvia, Luke, Boscoe and Babs).
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Post# 22757-10/7/2002-08:59 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: New pics added (New pics)
MESSAGE: I don't have any idea of the age. The upper arm really doesn't get in the way, providing that I put it in the right position. Loading with the rolling upper racks is much more a pain!
-ph
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Post# 22758-10/7/2002-09:54 ||| eugene (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: Mislabeled Controls on Frigi Dryer
MESSAGE: A question, gentlemen: My Frigidaire dryer's main control is mislabeled. The cycles are labeled Whites and Colors (something I've never quite understood; what was wrong with Regular and Permanent Press?!). Anyway, the cycle with the Press Saver feature is labeled WHITES, and the regular auto-control cycle is labeled COLORS. Obviously wrong. I went to the local Frigidaire dealer and looked at other dryers. All those were labeled correctly.
My question: Will this increase its value as a collector's item----in about 25 years, of course? Is this the sort of thing you guys look for?
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Post# 22759-10/7/2002-10:39 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: New pics added (cycles)
MESSAGE: The buttons are:
A - Normal Cycle
B - Rinse Hold
C - Pots Pans
D - Rinse Dry
E - China Crystal
F - Short Cycle
The cycle knob has the following indicators
rinse - ABCD
wash
rinse - EF
wash
rinse
rinse
dry
I wish Yahoo let y'all see the pics in full size...
-ph
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Post# 22760-10/7/2002-11:11 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: New pics added (Full-size pics on Yahoo)
MESSAGE: Yahoo will allow viewing pics full-size if the album owner pays subscribes to their premium storage service.
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Post# 22761-10/7/2002-11:37 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Onwers Manual of the Month
MESSAGE: Robert,
What a bright idea! I love reading manuals and I bet a lot of other members do too. Great that you have chosen the Blackstone to be the first one.
Many thanks,
Louis
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Post# 22762-10/7/2002-11:46 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: New pics added
MESSAGE: Hey Peter,
Congratulations on the new washers at the laundromat! I guess you can say now that the washers are even bigger?
The Whirlpool dishwasher is really cute. I love the decoration on the top, seems that Benita likes it too.
Louis
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Post# 22763-10/7/2002-11:54 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: New pics added (MUCH bigger!)
MESSAGE: I removed 4 35# washers. I added 5 30# washers, 2 40# washers and 2 55# washers. All I need now is a 75# washer and a couple extractors! Bigger washers means more oversudsing too!
-ph
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Post# 22764-10/7/2002-12:27 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Madam, did you ever think of drinking the rinse water from your washing machine? (What is it?)
MESSAGE: Greg, are you implying that the washer is a GE filter flo? If so, they must have removed the filter. It sure has an odd control panel, with buttons and levers and dials. I can't quite make out the logo, but it's something long. My first guess was Kelvinator, but it could also be General Electric, cause it looks like there's a crossed T near the end of the logo.
Of course, I don't know of any washer that came with a microscope inside it.
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Post# 22765-10/7/2002-12:47 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New pics added
MESSAGE: Very nice pictures Peter! Those are good dishwashers. On second look I see it is an "RCA Whirlpool" (as opposed to just plain Whirlpool) so it was made in 1967 or earlier, my guess would probably be mid 60s, and maybe Leslie will know.
I enjoyed the pictures of the laundromat. I especially like those blue triple load machines, they remind of vintage laundromats! That is a shame about your television set.
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Post# 22766-10/7/2002-12:54 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Madam, did you ever think of drinking the rinse water from your washing machine? (Wisk washer)
MESSAGE: If I am not mistaken, it is a Philco.
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Post# 22767-10/7/2002-12:59 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: New pics added (cycles(mine has no buttons))
MESSAGE: Peter, I think yours maybe a year or two older than the one I just acquired. Mine however has no buttons and just a knob in the back center (like yours) that has two cycles for super and short wash.........I think mine is a 1970. -gregm
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Post# 22768-10/7/2002-15:22 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Madam, did you ever think of drinking the rinse water from your washing machine? (Wisk washer)
MESSAGE: I concur... That styling!
-ph
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Post# 22769-10/7/2002-15:26 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: New pics added (mid-to-late 60's)
MESSAGE: I kinda thought it was a 1960's model. It runs great with the new timer, altho' the first rinse after the main wash seems to be an increment short. It goes straight into draining after filling. The machine is pretty loud, but most of it is the whiny motor -- like it needs a new bearing in there. There's a touch of rust around the dispenser triggers on the outside of the tub, but other than that, it is a clean machine!
-ph
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Post# 22770-10/7/2002-15:28 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: New pics added (super TEAL)
MESSAGE: The colors don't translate well on different monitors, but the triples are teal, a very strong teal! The thing about getting the machines in different colors is that I can tell people what color machine to use, rather than a "use the 55 pounder". Telling customers to aim for certain colors is much simpler to understand.
-ph
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Post# 22771-10/7/2002-16:18 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New pics added (super TEAL)
MESSAGE: that's a great idea!
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Post# 22772-10/7/2002-18:57 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Lot of 250 Maytag dryers!
MESSAGE: I know this is kind of off topic but you don't see this everyday. 250 80's Maytag dryers. (I would have posted in the sandbox but it won't let me get a membership.)
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2059119144
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Post# 22773-10/7/2002-19:02 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Madam, did you ever think of drinking the rinse water from your washing machine? (What is it?)
MESSAGE: The microscope was an option...
Tbe washer isn't a GE, or a Kelvinator.
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Post# 22774-10/7/2002-19:05 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Madam, did you ever think of drinking the rinse water from your washing machine? (Wisk washer)
MESSAGE: Ding Ding Ding!
Top of the line, Philco agitator washer 1956/57
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Post# 22775-10/7/2002-19:09 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Lot of 250 Maytag dryers!
MESSAGE: How odd. They all look like nearly the same model - bottom of the regular line for it's day and some of the "match-all" models too (with the black, gray & red on panel) just for fun. It will be interesting to see if they get a bid for these - they must have come out of an apartment complex.
Yahoo must not have let you join a group unless you are of legal age?
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Post# 22776-10/7/2002-20:31 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Lot of 250 Maytag dryers! (Gansky1 you should get them!)
MESSAGE: Thanks Jamie for the post. That is wild!
Greg I know that you don't have room for them in your garage, but what about your back yard?
Brent
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Post# 22777-10/7/2002-21:10 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Lot of 250 Maytag dryers! (Gansky1 you should get them!)
MESSAGE: He has a very nice, LARGE multi-level backyard, Brent! They would probably fit quite handily! What conversation pieces these would make! ;-)
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Post# 22778-10/7/2002-21:55 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Lot of 250 Maytag dryers! (Gansky1 you should get them!)
MESSAGE: "Dryerhenge".....
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Post# 22779-10/7/2002-22:00 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Lot of 250 Maytag dryers! (Gansky1 you should get them!)
MESSAGE: Conversation for the entire city!
Film at 11.....
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Post# 22780-10/7/2002-22:06 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Lot of 250 Maytag dryers! (Gansky1 you should get them!)
MESSAGE: Nebraska already has one 'henge' - an exact replica of Stonehenge in England, but created in a field in western Nebraska from vintage American cars.
I could do this with dryers, and 250 of them would be a good start!
LINK: http://www.carhenge.com/
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Post# 22781-10/7/2002-22:54 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Lot of 250 Maytag dryers! (Gansky1 you should get them!)
MESSAGE: ...or you could build a walkway across the freeway and charge admission for the display! ;-)
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Post# 22782-10/8/2002-00:22 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Lot of 250 Maytag dryers!
MESSAGE: And the video is interesting - even back in the 80's Maytag dryers were noisy!
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Post# 22783-10/8/2002-00:23 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Madam, did you ever think of drinking the rinse water from your washing machine? (What is it?)
MESSAGE: An option, like flourescent video lighting?
;-0
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Post# 22784-10/8/2002-00:42 ||| JoeEkaitis (Rialto, California, USA)
SUBJECT: No, it's not back on the market. . .
MESSAGE: . . .but I DID send an Email to Redox, the company that brought back Oxydol and BIZ, to consider the possibility. :)
LINK: http://writersbbs.com/members/joeekaitis/tabs.jpg
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Post# 22785-10/8/2002-01:01 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New pics added (cycles)
MESSAGE: Thanks Peter!!!
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Post# 22786-10/8/2002-06:39 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Onwers Manual of the Month (Very Cool! Thanks Robert! Questions about washer.)
MESSAGE: I just got around to reading the Blackstone Manual on the Manual of the Month section. I thought that it was so interesting!
I have two questions. While reading, I noticed that the machine only became "automatic" after the first fill. Was the version that Jon and John have the same? Or was the first fill automatic on the latter version?
That is such a cool looking machine.
Why did Blackstone pull out of the washer market? I know that Consumer Reports liked the washers that they offered.
Brent
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Post# 22787-10/8/2002-07:07 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Onwers Manual of the Month (Very Cool! Thanks Robert! Questions about washer.)
MESSAGE: Hi Brent, I'm not sure about your first question, but I seem to remember that you had to fill the wash tub manually for the first fill on all their models until the big redesign of the late 50's. Blackstone was in the washer market until the mid 70's.
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Post# 22788-10/8/2002-07:48 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Onwers Manual of the Month (Was first fill Manual to dissolve wash soaps?)
MESSAGE: That answers my questions. Thanks!
Was there a reason for the manual first fill? I was thinking it was because of the soaps back then needing to disolve, and get "heaping suds" before adding clothing.
My mom still waited for her "automatic" to fill and add detergent before she would put in her clothes because of the first soaps that she used in the 50's needed this, and even suggested it in the directions. She laughed and said that she finally quit doing that about 2 years ago, having a hard time letting go of that habit. We used to argue about her method of washing when I was a teenager.
It was fun when I was home last month and my mom and I would talk about washers. She could remember so much about automatics when they first came out, and who had what type of machine, what type of wash action each brand had, etc. It was very funny when I would go in her laundry room to wash my clothes this past trip, and she would follow me to "See what I was doing." Brought back memories, and feelings. No arguments this time. I guess I am growing up!
Brent
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Post# 22789-10/8/2002-09:27 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: GE POD
MESSAGE: I have the dryer to today's POD! I have seen other dryers from that model line here in the States, but have never seen one like mine with the GE logo on the front. Beautiful machine!
-ph
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Post# 22790-10/8/2002-10:52 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: New pics added (MUCH bigger!)
MESSAGE: Peter, I need to come check out your laundromat some Saturday afternoon. I love oversudsing!
Les
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Post# 22791-10/8/2002-10:56 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: GE POD (Canadian GE)
MESSAGE: Great POD. I'd love to see a close-up of the controls and the inside. I think this Canadian model is more beautiful then the U.S. GE's from that era.
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Post# 22792-10/8/2002-15:42 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: GE POD
MESSAGE: It looks a lot like the washer our neighbours had. When I saw your dryer it looked familiar to me. Now I see this picture, I'm sure they must have had the matching washer to your dryer. It still puzzles me though how that washer came to the Netherlands.
Louis
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Post# 22793-10/8/2002-18:25 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: GE POD (Coin Laundry Questions.....)
MESSAGE: PeterH770:
I just checked out the the photo album with pictures of your laundromat in it.
Question #1:
Do you use front loaders exclusively??? Or do you have some top loaders hooked up in your laundromat as well????
Question #2:
The front loaders I did see in those pictures........ who makes them???? I don't believe I have seen them before. Those don't happen to be Wascomats, are they???? And are those the "new" washers you or Louis is referring to???
Question #3:
Those aren't ADC dryers that you are using too, are they??? The reason I am asking about those dryers in particular is because those look like the same dryers that have been recently installed in my neighborhood laundromat about a year ago.
--Charles--
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Post# 22794-10/8/2002-19:05 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Westy Washer Buy it for $49.00!
MESSAGE: I found this on ebay and if anyone wants to buy it, it is yours!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2060742238
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Post# 22795-10/8/2002-19:08 ||| shawn (Waterford Ct)
SUBJECT: Coin-op Laundry's
MESSAGE: Does anyone know about what year the frist self service laundry went into service? and who made the first coin-op automatic washer? Thank's
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Post# 22796-10/8/2002-20:57 ||| Rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: Beginning My Collection
MESSAGE: Hi there. I live in a condo and was only able to make space in my garage on one wall for 4 maybe 5 washers. I have plastered and painted the area. Before the week is over, the electrician will install outlets and additional lighting and plumber will intstall plumbing lines. I was able to locate a 1947 Bendix front loader and a 1950's Maytag wringer washer. They should arrive here in two weeks. I cant wait to start doing laundry in my "new" machines.
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Post# 22797-10/8/2002-21:00 ||| Rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire Jet Cone
MESSAGE: I was able to locate a Frigidaire Jet Cone at appliance graveyard here in southern California but it was outside, full of dirt and sand and missing parts. The cabinet is a reddish brown. I will call and find out if they can make it work as I do not know how to fix these machines.
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Post# 22798-10/8/2002-21:55 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Jet Cone
MESSAGE: That is great that you were able to arrange some space to have a collection! Enjoy your new machines! It is amazing how many of those Bendix machines there seem to be floating about...they must have sold quite well.
Scott
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Post# 22799-10/8/2002-22:13 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Onwers Manual of the Month (Was first fill Manual to dissolve wash soaps?)
MESSAGE: Brent, I used to argue with my mom about her method of washing when I was a teenager too.
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Post# 22800-10/8/2002-22:48 ||| joesplace (col,oh)
SUBJECT: appl. recycle CNTR
MESSAGE: any one in OH. INTERESTED IN A LADY KENMORE WASHER HEAVY DUTY
MODLE # 110 72893110 SER # 081310816
MAY TAG MODLE # GA208 SER # 38045
& OR LET ME KNOW WHAT 2 KEEP EYE OUT FOR
W/ IN REASON
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Post# 22801-10/9/2002-08:38 ||| Bendixman (New York)
SUBJECT: Picture of the day.
MESSAGE: Does anyone know what year the Kenmore in the picture of the day came out?? My mother had this machine and I do remember that it had an ultra violet light inside that was on during the whole cycle to kill those nasty germs and I also remember that it had a signal ending bell which rang 12 or 13 times (strange things to remember). I also remember that this machine didn't last too long, the gears got stripped because when it didn't want to spin and Sears was called to repair it they told my mom that she did too much laundry (5 kids & 3 adults). The only thing that lasted was the Bendix.
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Post# 22802-10/9/2002-08:40 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the day.
MESSAGE: It looks the the 57 Lady Kenmore that one of you guys recently restored. Was the cyclafabric model similar to the early "Lady's"? The timer control knob looks exactly like the one on the 57 lady.
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Post# 22803-10/9/2002-08:43 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the day. (Picture of the day)
MESSAGE: Hi Bruce,
I think this is a 56 or 57
they first started making the lid open to the left in 56
Peter
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Post# 22804-10/9/2002-09:07 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE POD (Coin Laundry Answers...)
MESSAGE: 1) There are 6 GE toploaders in the last row of the store. I didn't get a pic of them; I was too excited about the new washers! I myself use the frontloaders exclusively for my own wash and for drop-off service. The only time I use the toploaders is to do an "enzyme soak" for customers who, shall we say, have poor hygiene habits.
2) All my frontloaders are Wascomat. The Generation 5 models have square doors. These are all my doubleloaders. The brand new Generation 6 machines have round doors.
3) For many years, Wascomat sold ADC dryers with the "WascoDry" label on them. The stacked dryers are model 530's, an ADC dryer made to Wascomat specs -- radial air flow thru the perforated drum, 105,000 BTU and 550 cfm per pocket. The single WDG-50 dryers burn twice as much gas and suck twice as much air! Wascomat started making their own dryers early last year, so ADC stopped making the 530's, but they can be special ordered if wanted.
-ph
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Post# 22805-10/9/2002-09:08 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the day. (Picture of the day)
MESSAGE: It's a 1957 model, Pete Kenmore started the left opening lid with the '57 models as well as other major changes too from that year. Lesto, it sounds like you mom had the unfortunate experience of a lazy or inexperienced repairman.
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Post# 22806-10/9/2002-09:09 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Coin-op Laundry's
MESSAGE: The first coin-op was probably opened in the very late 1940's, and was probably outfitted with Bendix machines. I believe that in the first self-serves, you paid an attendant to start the machines for you.
-ph
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Post# 22807-10/9/2002-10:30 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Coin-op Laundry's (from another message board)
MESSAGE: I take no credit for this info... I copied it from the message board at Coinwash.com
J.F. Cantrell opened the first "washateria" on April 18, 1934 in Fort Worth, Texas. It had only 4 machines.
However, Bendix Appliances invented the automatic washing machine in 1937. (So what were those 4 machines -- wringer washers?) [ PLEASE NOTE: I POSTED A CORRECTION THAT BENDIX INVENTED THE AUTOMATIC WASHER IN 1932. -ph]
Early laundries were open specific hours, and since they did not necessarily feature coin-operated machines, there was always an attendant on duty. Some even required that you make and appointment!
The word "Laundromat" was registered as a trademark by Westinghouse Electric, a subsidiary of White Consolidated Industries on Oct. 1, 1947. Westinghouse listed the word as first being used in commerce on Oct. 26, 1940, and renewed the trademark in 1988. (So if you have the word "Laundromat" in your signage, BEWARE!!!!!!!!)
The first unattended, 24-hour self-service laundry in the U.S. was opened by Nelson Pruett in 1949 on North Loop in Austin, Texas approximately where the present day "Room Service" is located (as of April 18, 1997).
According to the March 1950 issue of "Nation's Business", there were an estimated 4,000 self-serve laundries nation wide at that time.
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Post# 22808-10/9/2002-12:27 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the day. (To Bendixman........)
MESSAGE: Coming from a Kenmore fan such as myself, I will have to back "Uni" when it comes to describing today's POD.
The Kenmore that you see in today's POD is a 1957 model. From 1957 right up until today, the Kenmores have always positioned their lids to open toward the left. The 1969 Lady Kenmore and the 1969 Kenmore Model 900 (which was the model that was under the Lady Kenmore that year, and like the 1969 Lady Kenmore, the Model 900 was too a push button model) also had lids that can be reversed and be made to open toward the right like the Philcos used to do. But all in all, from 1957 on to today, Kenmores have always opened toward the left. Only today's Kenmore Elites open toward the back the same way the pre 1957 Kenmores used to do.
And about that Sears repairman who told your mother that she did too much laundry??? It seem to me that he was kind of lazy too, or he didn't know what the hell he was doing???? A lot of Kenmores that were made during that era tended to last 25 years or more. And I know most of the ones that were in my family lasted at least that long (as I should know..... since I came from a Kenmore family). So, it may be possible that your mother's machine may have been a lemon as well. It happens sometimes.
--Charles--
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Post# 22809-10/9/2002-12:53 ||| eugene (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: Picture of The Day/Kenmores
MESSAGE: What year did Kenmore start using the large, colored, toggle-like pushbuttons for automatic cycle selection? I had the privilege of finding an UNUSED (yes, unused) 1959 Lady Kenmore with said buttons. It also had a reservoir for softener in the console and a self-cleaning lint filter which made a 'marbles-in-a-jar' sound as soon as draining began. Did the '58's have a cycle dial or the pushbuttons?
My parents had a 1960 Model 80 with the same pushbuttons, without the softener reservoir or self-cleaning filter.
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Post# 22810-10/9/2002-13:12 ||| Bill-MO (Brookline Station, MO)
SUBJECT: Hotpoints & Kenmores
MESSAGE: When did Kenmore start using the Vari-Flex agitator and then stop using them? I thought they were a great idea, don't remember if they were the lift-off kind like the Hotpoint/JC Penney's were.
Also, didn't Hotpoint make a Mini-Basket system similar to the GE one? I remember seeing advertisement pics for one, but had never seen one in real life. If anyone has a pic of the Hotpoint version, I would sure appreciate it.
Bill
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Post# 22811-10/9/2002-13:16 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the day. (Picture of the day)
MESSAGE: That wasn't my Mom who had the 57 Kenmore with the bad transmission. That was Bendixman. My Mom had 55 TOL Hotpoint.
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Post# 22812-10/9/2002-15:07 ||| eugene (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: Kenmores/Yet Another Westy Question
MESSAGE: We had a 1960 Kenmore set when I was a kid which were handed down to me in 1983. I used them for another 4 or 5 years before the transmission finally went ka-blooey. They were absolute workhorses. Granted, they saw the repairman a few times, but overall I'd have to give them high marks for endurance.
We seem to be full of questions today! I have another one to add to the list: When did Westinghouse start selling top loaders? I notice the vintage Consumer Reports articles only ever speak of the Westy front-loaders. I recall seeing a Westy top loader in 1965 or '66 at a friend's house. It seemed to have a fast agitation speed, ala GE.
By the way, thanks to all of you fonts of information who take the time to answer these questions!
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Post# 22813-10/9/2002-15:44 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Beginning My Collection
MESSAGE: Hi Ross
Congratulations on the start of your new collection! I live in Orange County and know what a challenge it is to collect large things like major appliances in these parts since we don't have basements. I hope you can take some pictures to share. I would consider doing the same thing with our garage, except we have too many cars right now to give up the space.
Rich
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Post# 22814-10/9/2002-16:09 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: SPEAKING OF KENMORES!
MESSAGE: Greetings everyone! I'm back! Had a funny thing happen in West Virginia. Called Sears to come check my He3t's because the washer was dispensing bleach in the first rinse after it had drained and spun out the wash water! The dryer wasn't drying like I thought it should either. When the repairman arrived, it was the first set of this kind he had ever seen (even though he said he had seen them in pictures) and had absolutely NO idea of what to do with, or to them! After 4 and a half hours of sitting and watching it wash, and a pot of coffee, he called the God of Kenmores, in who knows where and we found out it was supposed to dispense the bleach in the 1st rinse. (This seems just so strange to me) He also had absolutely no explanation why the dryer wasn't drying properly except the old "not installed propperly" excuse. I then relayed to him that the Sears delivery/installers (for $55) had installed both machines. Finally he left, and I unhooked both machines and found crumpled cardboard in the dryer vent opening comming out of the machine. I should have watched these guys much more carefully but had lots going on the day when the machines arrived. I put my 59 Frigidaire back in it's place with a 1974 GE Americana Electronic Dryer. Finally, clean, dry clothes again.
I have been grabbing lots of the Lady Kenmore washers and dryers with the hoods that close over the control panels. When raised, the flourescent light comes on, and lights up the controls. The washer's have the pentaswirl agitators and and laundry aid dispensors and the Dryers are the full electronic models. They are all restored mechanically. I don't collect Kenmores but hated for them to go to the crusher when they really are wonderful machines for those that collect these. If anyone is interested, I would love to get rid of a few of these so I can make room for a few more Maytags that I DO collect. I can send pictures, just ask. It's great to be back! And again, "HELLO" to everyone!
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Post# 22815-10/9/2002-16:20 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: appl. recycle CNTR
MESSAGE: Hi! Would love to get any of the of the washers & dryers with lighted controls, or any solid tub washers and dryers. I can get them shipped to me without a problem. Thanks! Mark
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Post# 22816-10/9/2002-16:36 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: SPEAKING OF KENMORES!
MESSAGE: I bought a new KENMORE front loader in October of 2000 and like you, freaked out when I discovered the machine dispenses liquid bleach in the first rinse rather then during the wash cycle. I think this is a very poor design and when I want to bleach my "tighty whities" out I've started adding the Clorax to the detergent dispenser about halfway through the wash cycle. That way the liquid bleach pours right into the tub full of soapy wash water. Who wants bleach in their rinse water? I certainly don't.
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Post# 22817-10/9/2002-16:41 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of The Day/Kenmores (About Vintage Kenmores, Eugene......)
MESSAGE: How are you doing, Eugene!!!!
I take it that with all the questions about vintage Kenmores and so forth, I take it that you are a Kenmore fan just like I am. So, I will attempt to answer all of your questions as accurately as I possibly can. I have the Sears catalogs to the years (with exception of maybe a 1959, like the one you are talking about..... but I do have a 1960 Sears catalog, and it does have the same Lady Kenmore washer like the one you are talking about) you are talking about. So now, with that said then, here goes.
(01). The first Lady Kenmore to have a push button control panel was introduced in 1959 (the last one being 1975, and that one would be the model that has a concealed control panel (with them making the first one of that style in 1969)).
(02). The 1958 Lady Kenmore used dials instead of push buttons, as did the 1957 model (which was the VERY first ever Lady Kenmore) that has preceeded it (I do have a 1958 Sears catalog to confirm this).
(03). Along with the 1960 Lady Kenmore that I told you about (in which both the 1959 and 1960 were identically the same machine, except the 1960 model had detergent, bleach and fabric softener dispensers. There is a 1959 model pictured here on this website somewhere, and if I could recall correctly, I don't remember seeing a detergent dispenser sitting on the the top of the 1959 Lady Kenmore beside the lid, in which there was one on the 1960 model. But then again, maybe the 1959 model did have the bleach and fabric softener dispensers...... who knows), the Model 80 that you have mentioned is also in that same catalog, as it was the #2 model under the Lady Kenmore that year (the Sears S/S 1960 Catalog). So, I am familiar with that model as well.
--Charles--
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Post# 22818-10/9/2002-16:41 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: GE POD (Coin Laundry Answers...)
MESSAGE: What year are your top loading GE's? Are they recent models or vintage ones with the filter flo pans? There used to be a laundromat near our house that had aqua coin-op GE's with the filter flo function. Also, what part of Atlanta is your laundry?
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Post# 22819-10/9/2002-16:44 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: SPEAKING OF KENMORES! (HE3(t) bleach)
MESSAGE: Yes, the HE3(t), and probably the Duet(HT) as well, dispense bleach into the first rinse. Chlorine bleach is supposed to be delayed until the last few minutes into the wash so as to not counteract detergent enzymes. I suppose since front-loaders dispense by flushing water through the dispenser compartments, the engineers decided to have bleach go into the first rinse instead of adding more water to the wash. With multiple rinses in a front-loader, is there any more bleach odor remaining than there is with a top-loader that only rinses once? -- just wondering.
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Post# 22820-10/9/2002-16:54 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoints & Kenmores
MESSAGE: Well Bill-MO:
The first time Kenmore started using the "Vari-Flex" agitator in their washers was 1966. It was used first in the 1966 Kenmore Model 900 (which was the #2 model under the 1966 Lady Kenmore, and was push button model just like the 1966 Lady Kenmore. In fact, they had exactly the same control panel, except that the Model 900 was a two speed model, and the Lady was a three speed model). Strangely enough, the 1966 Lady Kenmore was still using the skirtless "Roto-Flex" that year, and to me, it looked like that the "Vari-Flex" was the better agitator. The "Vari-Flex" has finally started appearing in the "Femininely Engineered" 1968 Lady Kenmore, and then they stopped using it in 1974 and switched over to the "Penta-Swirl" agitator. It did not lift off like the Hotpoint/JC Penny versions did.
I think that about sums that one up, doesn't Bill???
--Charles--
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Post# 22821-10/9/2002-17:20 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Coin-op Laundry's (from another message board)
MESSAGE: Oops - the first Bendix automatic washer was 1937, not 1932.
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Post# 22822-10/9/2002-17:22 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoints & Kenmores
MESSAGE: Hotpoint did have a "mini basket" type of attachment to use for "dual tub" washing - a small load in the basket and another in the regular washtub below it. I don't think I have a picture, but perhaps someone has a print ad for them somewhere.
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Post# 22823-10/9/2002-17:24 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: SPEAKING OF KENMORES! (Nope)
MESSAGE: I can't smell any bleach when I run it through my Frigemore. It bleaches on the first rinse and then drains and spins. The next 3 rinses take care of the smell and the suds.
I love WiskHE!
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Post# 22824-10/9/2002-17:28 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmores/Yet Another Westy Question (Westy Top Load Washer)
MESSAGE: Westinghouse introduced a top loading washer in late 1963 or early 1964.
I have a 1966 CR report on washers, the Westinghouse top-loader used a whopping 57 gallons of water for a normal cycle. It was rated 'better than most' for washability, had color coded markings on the tub wall for water level settings (a good idea!) and a pesky lid lock that CR seemed to like for safety reasons.
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Post# 22825-10/9/2002-17:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: SPEAKING OF KENMORES! (HE3(t) bleach)
MESSAGE: The HE3t has water heating elements that could be damaged by chlorine bleach.
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Post# 22826-10/9/2002-17:45 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoints & Kenmores
MESSAGE: That was interesting to learn. I had no idea the variflex went back that far. I had thought it was more a 70s thing. So then, none of the big button Lady Ks had the Roto Swirl, I'm guessing. Jon L's Lady K has a Whirlpool Surgilator in it, so I am not sure what that originally had.
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Post# 22827-10/9/2002-17:46 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmores/Yet Another Westy Question (Westy Top Load Washer)
MESSAGE: Wow, 57 gallons! And that, I'm guessing, was more of a standard capacity machine.
I didn't realize that lid lock went back that far.
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Post# 22828-10/9/2002-18:03 ||| JOESPLACE (col,oh)
SUBJECT: RECYCLE CNTR.
MESSAGE: ANY ONE IN OH INTERESTED IN THE FOLLOWIN IF SOLET ME KNOW BEFORE FRI MORN PRFECTION STOVE GOOD WORKING COND W/ MANUAL MODLE #1052 MANUFACTURED CLEVLAND OH
G.M.FRIGIDAIRE CUSTOM IMPERIAL STOVE VERY GOOD WORKING COND MODLE # RCI635VN SER # 63C34783 STOVE TOP SLIDES BACK INTO ITS OWN SHELF OVEN OPENS STRAIT UP
MAY TAG WASHEER MODLE # GA208 SER # 38052 CG GOOD COND
LADYKENOREWASHER HEAVY DUTY DUEL RINSE CONTROL TRIPLE DISP. VRY GOOD COND
FRIGIDAIRE ICECREAM FREEZER MODLE # ICL-4S GOOD WORKING COND
G.E.FRIG MODLE #LM11NB1 SER# ZM603092 USED A VERY SHORT TIME AFEW MONTHS & PUT AWAY NO CRACKS IN LINER NOSCRATCHS/DENTS ON EVAP SHOW ROOM COND NO SURFACE RUST
I WILL LIST THINGS AT SHOP THAT SOME ONE MAY WANT BUT ICAN ONLY GET AFEW A WEEK -THEN IONLY HAVE 1 TO 2 DAYS TO GET THEM OUT OF THERE NO UNABLE TO GET PICKS
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Post# 22829-10/9/2002-18:08 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoints & Kenmores
MESSAGE: Scott:
Then more than likely, John's early 1970's Lady Kenmore originally had a "Vari-Flex" agitator inside of it before he finally took it out and replaced it with a "Whirlpool Surgilator". I'm more than willing to bet that was what was inside of his (meaning John's) Lady K before he changed agitators.
Ask him the next time you see him (or when he writes...... one of the two).
As far as I can remember, only the 1957 through 1964 Lady Kenmores had "Roto-Swril" agitators. The 1965 through 1967 Lady Kenmores (and the 1966 and 1967 Lady Kenmores would be one of the "big button" machines you are talking about) had "Roto-Flex" (skirtless) agitators. And the 1968 through 1973 Lady Kenmores had the "Vari-Flex" agitator. They finally done away with the "Vari-Flex" at the end of 1973 and switched over to a "Penta-Swril" agitator in 1974 and introduced it in the 1974 and 1975 Lady Kenmores (the last of the "big button" models) in what I saw was a cost cutting move.
And all of this is before they finally introduced the "Dual-Action" agitator in 1976, and then equipped the 1976 Lady Kenmore with it.
--Charles--
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Post# 22830-10/9/2002-18:38 ||| TrainGuy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: Help With Installation of New Spin Shaft Nut & Seal Assembly
MESSAGE: Hey Guys,
I finally have a few free hours to put my WO-65 back together. The old nut and seal assembly was completely deteriorated. I have a brand new #5876864 kit. The problem I am having is with step #5 in the instructions. It says to place the new brass ring #5436233 on top of the seal with the STEPPED FACE DOWN. Then I am to put the bushing in the ring. By doing it this way though, the bushing sits slightly ABOVE the ring. If I turn the ring over, the bushing fits snugly into the ring. I know I should follow the directions, but engineers are notorious for throwing instructions out the window! I know you guys are the rebuild experts. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Rich
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Post# 22831-10/9/2002-19:47 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: SPEAKING OF KENMORES!
MESSAGE: what in the world could they have been thinking??? Mark
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Post# 22832-10/9/2002-19:48 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: SPEAKING OF KENMORES! (HE3(t) bleach)
MESSAGE: the bleach smell is VERY strong and the clothes don't come out that white. Mark
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Post# 22833-10/9/2002-19:53 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmores/Yet Another Westy Question (Westy Top Load Washer)
MESSAGE: My grandmother had one of these, and it was a GREAT washer! Lasted until the mid 80's when the clutch went out. I would love to have one now....it even had a toggle switch that when turned on, had a red indicator light, and offered an extra spray rinse in the final spin! Also had a swirl agitator that was a lot of fun to watch on a small or medium load. Threw clothes AND water up almost to the top of the lid!!! Mark
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Post# 22834-10/9/2002-19:54 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: SPEAKING OF KENMORES! (HE3(t) bleach)
MESSAGE: They need to redesign the heating elements then, because dishwashers have heating elememts on when washing and Cascade has LOTS of chlorine in it....or certain ones do anyway. Mark
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Post# 22835-10/9/2002-19:56 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmores/Yet Another Westy Question (Westy Top Load Washer)
MESSAGE: It only locked durring the spin portion, of course at a very young age I had jimmied it to work with the lid open. This washer was rated at about 12 pounds but held as much as the 18 pound Norges. Lots of capacity. Mark
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Post# 22836-10/9/2002-20:25 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: SPEAKING OF KENMORES! (HE3(t) bleach)
MESSAGE: Hi Mark,
I hope you are doing well. Yes I cannot understand why bleach is added in the 1st rinse. My sister has the GE FL for almost 3 years. It's the same as Fridgmore where bleach is added in 1st rinse. She complained her whites werent staying white. So now she starts wash and after it is washing a few minuntes open drawer and adds bleach with water to flush it. She is now happy with the way the whites come out. I do not understand why these machines aren't designed to add bleach later in wash cycle. The last 5 minutes would be sufficent.
Peter
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Post# 22837-10/9/2002-20:46 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmores/Yet Another Westy Question (Westy Top Load Washer)
MESSAGE: Hi Mark, welcome back!
That sounds so cool- this is one of the machines that I would love to find. I've never even seen an older Westy top loader running, I'll bet they are fun to watch.
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Post# 22838-10/9/2002-23:03 ||| JoeEkaitis (Rialto, California, USA)
SUBJECT: A Westy pair for your kitchen table? :)
MESSAGE: If you happen to have $45. . . :)
LINK: http://pages.tias.com/6804/PictPage/1920874026.html
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Post# 22839-10/10/2002-07:16 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: Today's POD--Kenmore 800
MESSAGE: Jason, doesn't it just make your heart go "pitter patter, pitter patter"- thump thump thump, pound pound pound!!!
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Post# 22840-10/10/2002-07:34 ||| eugene (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: Kenmores/Westys
MESSAGE: Gansky-- One of my favorite features of the site is the section with Consumer Reports tests of washers. What are the chances you can get your '66 (...it was a very good year....) CR washer report onto the site?
Uni? (Gratutitous begging and pleading inserted here...)
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Post# 22841-10/10/2002-07:44 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD--Kenmore 800
MESSAGE: .... whirrwhirrwhirrwhirrwhirr grrrrrrind-click-clunk-zzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZ....
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Post# 22842-10/10/2002-07:46 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD--Kenmore 800 (Kenmore)
MESSAGE: If I ate pizza while watching an old Kenmore would you call it a "Whine and cheese" party?
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Post# 22843-10/10/2002-08:41 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: more photos
MESSAGE: I have uploaded some more photos of the Frigidaire WM11 in action.
I recently saw a round shouldered Frigidaire (Australian) fridge at the recycler, unfortunately I didn't have my camera that day. It had a gold coloured badge in the centre of the door, saying "Frigidaire, exclusively by General Motors".
The rear of the fridge said "Made in Australia by General Motors - Holdens". Ther was no sign of a Frigidaire crest so I assume it was even older than my washer. It was in fairly rough condition.
Chris
LINK: http://uk.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gizmo_au63/vwp?.dir=/Frigidaire+WM11&.src=ph&.dnm=hot+wash.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//uk.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gizmo_au63/lst%3f%26.dir=/Frigidaire%2bWM11%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 22844-10/10/2002-08:49 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: Whirlpool Semi Auto
MESSAGE: On another visit to the recycler about a month ago I found this Whirlpool semi auto. It was in quite good clean condition, small amount of rust.
It has a fifteen minute clockwork timer, plus a set of buttons to select the action. There is no fill control - when you turn on the taps, it fills. If you forget to turn them off, it floods. These are still common appearances at the recycler - it appears they never wear out, but people get sick of using them and throw them out. I didn't adopt this one, I just photographed it there, it is probably scrapped by now.
Note if you can under the Whirlpool logo, the words "by Malleys". Malleys were the Australian company that made Whirlpool washers and other appliances, and sold them under the Malleys brand too. They eventually got swallowed by Email who in turn got swallowed by Electrolux.
Chris.
LINK: http://uk.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gizmo_au63/lst?.dir=/WP+semi+Auto&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//uk.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gizmo_au63/lst%3f%26.dir=/Frigidaire%2bWM11%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 22845-10/10/2002-08:49 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE POD (Coin-op GE's)
MESSAGE: My GE's are 1994, some of the last 'old style' machines with Filter-Flo pans. There are alot of GE laundries in the ATL area. My 'mat is in Woodstock.
-ph
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Post# 22846-10/10/2002-08:50 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: more pics
MESSAGE: I have added a few more pics to the current album, they are mixed in there in alphabetical order, the four new items added are a Kenmore Wringer Washer, Norge Time Line Dryer (not sure what year, maybe 1962?), Whirlpool Imperial Washer '59 and a Whirpool top-load DW '70............hope you like.........
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gregm978/lst?.dir=/More+apps/
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Post# 22847-10/10/2002-08:51 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: SPEAKING OF KENMORES! (HE3(t) bleach)
MESSAGE: My little Kenamore' frontloader from 1984 dispenses bleach into the first rinse. Mom's/Steve 1-18's Quietlines dispense into the first rinse also. It's the Euro way!
-ph
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Post# 22848-10/10/2002-08:55 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Coin-op Laundry's (from another message board)
MESSAGE: 1937 for wide spread home use, right? I have the Bendix ad on my wall here that claims 1932. And wasn't the Gyromatic a pre-war model?
-ph
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Post# 22849-10/10/2002-08:57 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: F&P Gentle Annie
MESSAGE: Her is my cat Monty, who is obsessed with water, checking out the F&P Gentle Annie washer being filled. (Water pressure is low, so I was using a hose to fill it).
If you want to, feel free to go back a step to "photo albums", then check out "cats and people" for more cat pix and a cat and husband pic. Lucky the black kitten (Millie's brother)is no longer with us, Millie is now 4 and step brother Monty now 3.
Chris.
LINK: http://uk.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gizmo_au63/lst?.dir=/cats+and+people&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//uk.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gizmo_au63/lst%3f%26.dir=/Frigidaire%2bWM11%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 22850-10/10/2002-09:01 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: RECYCLE CNTR.
MESSAGE: Thanks Joe, keep please us posted with vintage automatic washers and dishwashers that come in.
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Post# 22851-10/10/2002-09:18 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Semi Auto
MESSAGE: Wow, thanks for the great pictures Chris. I'm glad to see your Pulsamatic is purrrrring away. And that Whirlpool, very cool, its so neat to see something that looks familair but is very different at the same time. I noticed that down there they still used the 4 row of holes at the bottom of tub much later than here in the US, Canadian Inglis machines were also made with the four rows, much later into the 60's.
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Post# 22852-10/10/2002-09:25 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Coin-op Laundry's (from another message board)
MESSAGE: The Gyromatic came out in the late 40's Peter, that was Bendix' first non-bolt down washer. I've seen those 1932 claims from Bendix too, but if you look at the patents they were not awared until around 1935 or 1936. The machine was not marketed until 1937, but they were probably placed in test homes in 1932. The Unimatic was in test homes in 1941, but it was not sold until '47. I suspect Bendix was stretching the truth a bit here.
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Post# 22853-10/10/2002-09:27 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: F&P Gentle Annie
MESSAGE: Hi Chris, those are wonderful pictures, thanks for sharing! Nice picture of Stephen, but no picture of you?
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Post# 22854-10/10/2002-09:47 ||| eugene (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: '59 Kenmores/Westys
MESSAGE: Chasjr2--Thanks for the info on the Kenmores! No, the '59 Lady K. didn't have a detergent dispenser. I used to have a '59 Sears catalog----I found it under the cushion of an old couch in our Cub Scouts center when I was in 4th or 5th grade! Unfortunately, I lost track of it once I went to college.
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Post# 22855-10/10/2002-09:52 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: more pics (Much Older Than You Think!)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the pictures Greg. Your Norge Timeline dryer is much older than you realize. You've got yourself one of the very first Norge timeline dryers, congrats, probably around 1954.
Beautiful '56 Whirlpool too!
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Post# 22856-10/10/2002-09:55 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Semi Auto
MESSAGE: Hi Robert,
What is the alternative to 4 rows of holes in a Whirlpool?
Do the Inglises have a left-hinged lid? (as do all Aussie belt drive Whirlpools) Sorry, I forgot to take a photo of the lid open.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Aussie Whirlpools were taken from Inglis, rather than direct from Whirlpool in US. Just supposition, but it was a common arrangement with cars for example, with Pontiac Parisienne and Laurentian being assembled in Aus (RHD)and Ford sourcing some models for local assembly from Canada in the 1950's. Possibly a British Commonwealth thing???
Chris.
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Post# 22857-10/10/2002-10:14 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Semi Auto
MESSAGE: Hi Chris, four rows went down to two rows in about '60 or '61, in the US, in both Whirlpool and Kenmore washer spin-baskets. Inglis lids were always hinged towards the back, just like US Whirlpools.
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Post# 22858-10/10/2002-10:18 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: Kenmore question for Unimatic
MESSAGE: In the 57 Lady which you so beautifully restored I was wondering exactly what the "suds" switch on the control panel was for? I also noticed on the main control there is a "suds" position prior to "fill" on the normal cycle? What were these for and was the one on the timer intended to interact with the separate suds switch?
Does this machine have a timed fill or does the timer remain stationary until the agitation starts like the later Kenmores did? Just curious because later models didn't have the word "fill" on the cycle panel. Also, how ling is the wash time on the 57 Lady? Most Kenmores after this model washed up to 14 minutes on the normal cycle but on the 53 model that Peter has the dial washes up to 20 minutes.
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Post# 22859-10/10/2002-10:23 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: Peter's 53 Kenmore
MESSAGE: I love the pics of this machine at your link. Seems like the only change Kenmore made to the 53 thru 55's is the background color of the timer. Yours has a bluish color and I've seen a similar model with a copper color although I think the copper one had a separate "custom fabric" cycle rather than just one long cycle like your 53.
My question is, on these machines does the timer move to the next position every 2 minutes like the later Kenmores or does it advance at 60 second intervals since there are painted notches for each minute?
Can you tell I'm a 50's and 60's Kenmore fan?
Les
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Post# 22860-10/10/2002-10:45 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore question for Unimatic
MESSAGE: The suds switch was redirect the draining of the wash water into the suds water storage sink if you had a double sink. Then when you stated the next wash you turned the wash dial to "SUDS" to pump the dirty wash water left over from the last load back into the wash tub.
The Max time of wash on the '57 Lady Kenmore is 15 minutes. The LK is a pressure fill machine, not timed, but if you set the wash time to 9 minutes or less, it does not fill at all and goes right into dry agitation. The Fill marking was meant to show where on the dial the washer would fill first. This was a left over feature from earlier models without a water level selector to allow you to advance the dial and start agitation at a lower water level for small loads.
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Post# 22861-10/10/2002-10:47 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Peter's 53 Kenmore (Every 60 seconds)
MESSAGE: Every 60 seconds the dial incremented, they didn't implement the 120 second escapement until sometime in the 60's.
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Post# 22862-10/10/2002-11:14 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore question for Unimatic
MESSAGE: Thanks! Why on earth would anyone want to re-use dirty wash water for another load? YUK!
If you don't mind another 2 or 3 pesky questions, what are the times for the drain, spin & rinse cycles on your 57 Lady? The Kenmores I'm familiar with drained for 2, sprayed & spinned for 2 minutes, rinse-agitated for 2 and the final spin was for 6 minutes with another spin-spray for the first 2 of the 6. Is the max wash time on the custom fabric cycle 6 minutes? I assume the final spin is for 4. Is this cycle working on your restored Lady?
Lastly, what year did Kenmore first introduce the wash n wear/permanent press cycle with the cool down function?
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Post# 22863-10/10/2002-12:10 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: more photos (very cool pics)
MESSAGE: very cool machine Chris, what year is it?? thanks for sharing the pics, good luck with it......... - gregm
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Post# 22864-10/10/2002-12:15 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: more pics (Much Older Than You Think! really?)
MESSAGE: wow, cool, so you think the dryer is a '54 huh? awesome!, its a model # AE620 and you think the Washer is a '56?? I was told its a '59.........glad you liked them :) ....
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Post# 22865-10/10/2002-12:17 ||| eugene (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: Suds Savers
MESSAGE: Lesto-- We had a 1960 Kenmore Model 80 w/ the suds saver feature when I was growing up. My mom would always re-use the wash water for at least one additional load. The dirt/sediment/yukky stuff would settle to the bottom of the sink and not get pulled back into the washer in subsequent loads. You wouldn't re-use water from a load of diapers or anything like that, so it wasn't as gross as it might seem.
The biggest problem was during the suds return; the machine agitated at high speed while water came back into the tub, causing a lot of splashing. The splashing water would hit the tub light causing it to pop, sending glass shards into the machine. A serviceman eventually installed a foil shield around the bulb.
The machine also had another quirk: When the unbalanced switch activated the buzzer and stopped the machine, it sometimes would not go back into normal operating mode. You'd move the Cycle Hold switch back to ON and the buzzer would sound again. You'd have to flip the switch on and off a bunch of times before the motor would kick in and start the spin cycle again.
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Post# 22866-10/10/2002-12:38 ||| eugene (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: GM-era Frigidaire Suds Savers
MESSAGE: In the Consumer Reports articles there are several mentions of the 'inconvenient' suds savers on some Frigidaire models. What made them more incovenient than the type on Maytags or the Whirlpool family? And why didn't they need an outside sink/tub to be used?
gizmo-- thanks for the Aussie appliance pics! Is that a Filter-Flo style lint filter on the Whirlpool semi-auto?
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Post# 22867-10/10/2002-12:51 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: more pics
MESSAGE: I LOVE THAT TIME-LINE dryer! That was the first dryer that I ever bought. When I was in Junior High School (about 1966), I decided it was time to buy a dryer, since I was the one doing the family laundry and was tired of hanging clothes out in the hot Florida sun. I babysat and saved up $50 and called an appliance company out of the yellow pages to see what kind of used dryer they could give me for fifty bucks! I bought it sight unseen! When it arrived, I was very disappointed. Here was this old dryer that looked like it had really been put through the wringer so to speak...and it smelled funny. I also discovered that it wasn't ventable! There was this square hole in the back and a drop down lower panel in the front for the lint screen access. How in the world would I get it vented to the outside??? I couldn't dream of putting all this hot humid air in the garage since after all, we lived in Florida, and it was already hot and humid in the garage! Dad was afraid to hook it up, so I took it appart and rewired it, and cleaned it up real good. It had a screw type thing in the lower left corner that you could screw all the way up, and it would lift the drum off the belt so the drum didn't rotate and you could dry tennis shoes, sweaters, etc....of course, no rack was included. I also remember there was a huge fan in the back of the drum that forced the air into the drum instead of pulling the heated air through the drum as dryers do nowadays. It dried clothes very unevenly and most of the lint ended up not on the screen but all over the garage! I discovered if I dried two loads at once, it dried much more thoroughly and evenly. I did finally rig up a vent system also that worked pretty well. Around late 68 or 69, I bought a new Frigidaire set that had cabinet like shelves for detergent storage and the Jet Cone agitation system in a lovely avocado green! I really was in heaven then! Mark
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Post# 22868-10/10/2002-13:04 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore question for Unimatic
MESSAGE: Normal Cycle:
Fill (Variable)
Wash 10 to 15 minutes
Drain 2
Spin 1 No Spray
Spin 2/with 4 spray rinses
Rinse Fill (Variable)
Rinse Agitation 2
Drain 2
Spin 6
Bell (during the last increment of spin)
I'm not sure about the modern fabric cycle times exactly.
I think the '59 Kenmore was the first year with cool-down and '58 for Whirlpool, but I'm not positive.
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Post# 22869-10/10/2002-13:05 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: more pics (Much Older Than You Think! really?)
MESSAGE: No, its a '56.
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Post# 22870-10/10/2002-13:25 ||| Fotar (NM)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire
MESSAGE: I just came across this web site and thought I would share some information with the group. I sold Frigidaire appliances in Sacramento CA in 1960. We were getting a lot of the 40's and 50's washers in trade. When they were originally sold, there was a stick-on label about 6" square or so on the top surface. On it was written something like "This is a genuine all-porcelain surface. It will not scratch, mar, stain or otherwise show any wear." I think that not only the top surface was porcelain but the entire outer shell. Every now and then we would get one in trade which still had the original sticker in place. When you peeled off the sticker, the porcelain under it was like brand new, but the rest of the top was usually scratched all to hell. Nevertheless we refurbished them and sold them for $129.95 - in 1960 dollars, probably the equivalent of close to $1000 today. That was still only about 1/2 the price of a new one and people were happy to get them. I think we sold about 150 of them before we ran out.
Bob
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Post# 22871-10/10/2002-13:26 ||| eugene (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: '59 Lady Kenmore revisited
MESSAGE: Uni--I think you're right, the '59 Kemores were the first with the fill-drain-fill-drain-fill-drain Wash 'n' Wear cool-down.
PeterH-- just found your pic of the '59 Lady K. Makes me nostalgic for the one I used to have. A '59 w/d pair were sitting behind a local appliance store to be recylced. The washer had never been used, although the dryer had been. I asked the appliance dealer about them; he said they were found in a storage shed on a farm a young couple had purchased. I don't know why the washer had never been used. Perhaps it was the old scenario of someone who didn't 'trust' automatic washers and continued to use their old wringer washer instead of the new-fangled one. It was like finding something in a time capsule. The unused hoses and plastic-bagged instruction manual were still inside the tub. I used it for about 2 years and it was a joy to watch. Lit up like a spaceship, she was.....
I liked how the console light could be operated even when the washer was off. I used the lights on the washer and dryer to light the laundry nook.
While I'm here, what brand is the turquoise washer/dryer pair in the background of this page? The dryer door is partially open and both the w & d have a grill on the front at the bottom.
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Post# 22872-10/10/2002-13:31 ||| eugene (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: ad hoc welcome wagon
MESSAGE: Welcome Fotar! Thanks for sharing your Frigidaire sales story. This is a great site; I just discovered it a month ago, myself. Be sure to check out all the vintage videos and member links. There are many great pics. Unimatic1140, in particular, has quite a vintage Frigidaire collection.
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Post# 22873-10/10/2002-13:52 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: GM-era Frigidaire Suds Savers
MESSAGE: One of the Frigidaire experts will post more complete and detailed info (and corrections), I'm sure . . .
There was a spring-loaded ball attached to the drain hose, and the ball was positioned over the end of the hose to block the water from coming out. During the first spin, the water would not be pumped out, but held in the outer tub. The first load was removed from the machine, the ball removed from the hose, and the drain hose removed from the standpipe and aimed into the washer. Start the washer running, probably at a marked position on the timer so that it wouldn't fill, and the water would be pumped back into the tub via the drain hose. Add the next load of laundry to be washed, put the drain hose back in the standpipe, and don't have the ball on the drain hose this time (unless you wanted to save the water again for another load).
The 2nd load can run through the complete cycle for rinse and final spin. Then the 1st load is put back in for rinsing and final spin.
You can see the ball on the drain hose in several pictures that Gizmo posted of his WM-11.
LINK: http://uk.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gizmo_au63/vwp?.dir=/Frigidaire+WM11&.dnm=washing.jpg&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//uk.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gizmo_au63/vwp%3f.dir=/Frigidaire%2bWM11%26.dnm=hot%2bwash.jpg%26.src=ph
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Post# 22874-10/10/2002-14:04 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: '59 Lady Kenmore revisited ('59 Frigidaire pair background)
MESSAGE: The background wallpaper that you and I have selected is a 1959 Frigidaire Custom Imperial Multimatic washer and Filtrator condensing dryer. The Multimatic transmission allowed Frigidaire to have more than one wash and spin speed. The Filtrator dryer used room air to condense moisture from the clothes.
-ph
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Post# 22875-10/10/2002-14:33 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: SPEAKING OF KENMORES! (HE3(t) bleach)
MESSAGE: I think your Kenmore was an adjusted version of an Italian washer. The real Euro way is not using bleach. Actually Euro washers don't have bleach dispensers at all.
Louis
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Post# 22876-10/10/2002-15:00 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore question for Unimatic
MESSAGE: Thanks for the info. I've really enjoyed your pics of the 57 Lady. I hope you guys don't mind my annoying questions.
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Post# 22877-10/10/2002-15:03 ||| eugene (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigi Suds Savers/Ongoing Memory Loss
MESSAGE: DADoES-- Wow, that IS incovenient, isn't it? But if you really needed to conserve water and didn't have room for an extra sink/tub, it was a viable alternative. Amazing all that water could be held in the outer tub. Thanks for answering!
PeterH-- (sheepishly) I totally forgot we could choose our wallpaper and that I chose a Frigi. I can't believe I didn't recognize the control panel. I'M SLIPPING!! MIDDLE AGE IS RUINING ME!! (And I'm sure the excesses involved with growing up in the '70's have done me no good, either, ha-ha.)
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Post# 22878-10/10/2002-15:16 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: more photos
MESSAGE: Great pictures - that is such a fun machine to play with, and you gotta love that overflow rinsing!
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Post# 22879-10/10/2002-15:19 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Semi Auto
MESSAGE: This is a very neat machine - that filter pan inside is very rare here in the states. I would imagine people would tire of using these semi-auto machines, too much attention needed for the job unless you have only a few loads to do.
Thanks again for the pics- it's fun to see the different things - and that filter!! What a cool sight that is!
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Post# 22880-10/10/2002-15:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: more pics
MESSAGE: It's picture day!! Thanks for these pictures too - you have some beautiful machines.
I think your Whirlpool washer is earlier than 59, possibly 56 or 57. It really is in beautiful shape!
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Post# 22881-10/10/2002-15:37 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Coin-op Laundry's (from another message board)
MESSAGE: Bendix Gyromatic was 1948. They seemed to strech the truth a lot. The control dials used the word 'Dry'!
I wonder if the "test homes" were updated every time there was a model change - what a treat that would be, especially in the 40's & 50's! Maytag used a whole town in Kansas for Neptune testing. I think the subject homes got to keep their machines - I wonder how many gave them back. There was no data on that...
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Post# 22882-10/10/2002-15:41 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Suds Savers
MESSAGE: Eugene that, I believe, is why the later Sears suds model washers agitate at slow speed during the suds return phase. I believe the later models also advanced directly into the wash cycle after pumping the suds back in.
Lesto, back in the 50s and 60s and into the 70s, the suds savers were actually a fairly popular feature, I think because folks were used to using wringer washers, where often you use the wash water more than once. I'm thinking water usage was probably a sticking point as far as getting those thrifty mid century homemakers into automatics.
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Post# 22883-10/10/2002-15:54 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Semi Auto (Whirlpool filter pans)
MESSAGE: The owner's manual for our 1962 Whirlpool LJA-3200 also covered a couple more "budget-minded" models and referenced an agitator-mounted filter pan. I was a bit upset when I found the manual and we had no filter pan, but then I figured out that our model wasn't supposed to have the filter pan (it had the MagicMix filter).
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Post# 22884-10/10/2002-15:55 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigi Suds Savers/Ongoing Memory Loss
MESSAGE: Suds savers were very popular in rural areas as well. Older septic systems and well pumps could not handle the volume of water an automatic washer used. A friend of mine grew up on a farm in the 60's and they ran the washer drain out into the corn field for this reason.
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Post# 22885-10/10/2002-16:36 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: more pics (thnx)
MESSAGE: thanks Mark, I enjoyed reading your posting. I too love the dryer and love the way the paint came out on it, Its the first appliance I have ever painted and I was a little nervous. But I got some advice from the experts and did what they said and it came out great. I found it on the side of the road with a free sign on it and it works perfectly. It dried a sizeable perm. press load in about 30 minutes. I love the way the timer lights up too.
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Post# 22886-10/10/2002-16:37 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: more pics (its a '56)
MESSAGE: Robert informed me it was a '56 and that the dryer is probably a '54. I am even more psyched now..........
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Post# 22887-10/10/2002-18:02 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: more photos
MESSAGE: Hi Chris
Great to see pics of your finds and the shots of the FriGi in action, looks a real neat machine....the semi auto Whirlpool looks rather neat and with filter flow as well, looking for an early red & gold filter pan for my top loader...
See what you mean about the Simpson Delta looking like the Gentle Annie..
Question: did the Wilkins Servis machines come in colours or just white
Cheers, Mike
p.s. love the cats but the schnitzels would think its play time..sorry...
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Post# 22888-10/10/2002-18:10 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: more pics
MESSAGE: Hi Greg
Glad to see you`re enjoying your collection and getting stuck into the renovations etc...Love the 59 Whirlpool Custom Imperial, beauty of a machine...
Does the Easy twinny have an outlet pipe at the back for the spinner, I remember seing an old one in a mag that looked like it had a flap at the side which drained into a sink...
Lucky hunting..
Mike
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Post# 22889-10/10/2002-18:19 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: ad hoc welcome wagon (Hi Too...)
MESSAGE: Hi also to Fotar and Eugene and all other new members from this side of the water...great to see your enthusiasm on finding the club....
My favorite machine from being here and having used it in Roberts basement has to be ...."The 57 Lady Kenmore"...thats The Lady that did it for me!!!!
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 22890-10/10/2002-19:14 ||| joesplace (col,oh)
SUBJECT: LOOKING FOR COLLECTORS
MESSAGE: LOOKING FOR ELECTRIC RANGE COLLECTORS
HAVE COME ACROSS TWO VERY OLD VERY GOOD COND ELEC RANGES PRFECTION ELEC STOVE EXLENT WORKING COND MODLE # 1052 S SRER # 031032 MANF. CLEV. OH. -W/ MANUALS COPYRIGHT1947
G. M. FRIGIDAIRE CUSTOM IMPERIAL EXLENT WORKING COND MODLE # RCI635VN SER# 63C34783
BOTH IN EXELENT COND VERY LITTLE {IF ANY} RESTORATION NEEDED
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Post# 22891-10/10/2002-19:30 ||| Bendixman (New York)
SUBJECT: Spin-X
MESSAGE: Just thought i;d let everyone know about a great appliance that every laundryroom should have, it's called a Spin-X. I've owned one for about 3 years. It's an old time extractor that you would have found in laundromats of long ago. It spins at 3300rpm's. It removes so much water from the laundry that some of it is ready for ironing and the best part is it cuts down on the time the clothes spend in the dryer. If most of you have an electric dryer you know how expensive it can be running it a number of hours each week. It holds about 9 lbs of wet laundry and takes about 3 minutes, (it's timed). Towels which usually take 1 hour to dry are done on about 35-40 minutes depending on the size load you are drying. It's a great little machine. The website is www.Spin-X.com. Take a look at it and lets hear some feedback.
Bruce
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Post# 22892-10/10/2002-19:40 ||| mooney6au (Sydney, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Semi Auto (cat pics)
MESSAGE: Hi Chris,
We haven't spoken for a while. I remember seeing the Whirlpool semi when it was around. There were other models as well that were semi - auto. Simpson had a range too.
I loved the pics of Monty helping with the washing. I have a cat called Monty and he is also interested in washing. When I get time this weekend I will post a pic of him curiously watching the Miele in its throws.
regards,
Greg
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Post# 22893-10/10/2002-20:06 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: more pics
MESSAGE: Hey Greg - great new pics. I especially love the Whirlpool washer - you were so lucky to get that. Of course I liked the Norge a lot also - I still have a fantasy of having a Norge Timeline Washer. By the way - I would date your dryer as earlier than 1962 - - probably around 1954. I have a magazine ad from 1954 featuring the matching Norge washer and dryer ("the Norge Laundry Maids") and I am sure that was the dryer from the ad. By 1957 Norge had gone to a full width drop down multi position door and a different control panel shape. Considering its age the dryer seems to be in remarkably good condition.......
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Post# 22894-10/10/2002-21:49 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Spin-X
MESSAGE: I've always wanted to see one of those in action. At the convention, at Jeff's house, there was a huge (Bock?) spin dryer that would blow your mind. It goes 1777 rpm but it's very wide and it will wring a whole lot of water from a load that was spun in a Whirlpool Duet. I wish they would make a little bigger Spin-X that would hold like 14lbs. And they should also make one with a clear top where you can watch it spin. Being able to watch is most of the fun.
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Post# 22895-10/10/2002-21:52 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: GM-era Frigidaire Suds Savers
MESSAGE: If you have 2 washing machines, you can save suds really easy. When one drains, just let it dump into the 2nd washing machine.
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Post# 22896-10/10/2002-23:31 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD--Kenmore 800 (Kenmore)
MESSAGE: Jason, you've been hanging around me too long. The puns are rubbing off.
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Post# 22897-10/10/2002-23:35 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: more pics (thnx)
MESSAGE: thanks Mike, I will have to check on the easy, i do not think it has a separate drain on the spin basket, glad you liked the pics..........
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Post# 22898-10/10/2002-23:37 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: LOOKING FOR COLLECTORS (thanks for your postings Joe)
MESSAGE: keep the postings coming Joe, I am sure I speak for many that we are grateful for your giving us an opportunity to obtain an old appliance before it may get destroyed.............thanks again !! -gregm
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Post# 22899-10/10/2002-23:44 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: more pics (thnx Angus)
MESSAGE: the washer is a '56 and yes in amazingly good original condition. the dryer had alot of rust on the cabinet and it took a good two coats of paint along with two coarse and two fine sandings in between, but it all paid off and it came out great. The porcelain top cleaned up remarkably well with very little scratches. The porcelain back then was of remarkable quality I think. I cleaned every last detail on the control panel. I found the dryer on the side of the road and I was told it had been dropped on its back, I had my fingers crossed when I plugged her in and started her up. It ran beautifully. The washer needs some work and is not working at all right now. Needs a new cord and I think a new timer. I hope to work on it over the next month. Thanks for your response.........
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Post# 22900-10/10/2002-23:48 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: more pics
MESSAGE: Greg, thanks for hte pics again. That's the first Norge Timeline dryer in electric I've ever seen. The drum stayed the same form 1954 through 1965, although capacity enlarged. I love the WP dishwasher. Fascinating, dual wash levels even for a custom. And it's nice to see that 59 Imperial washer NOT in pink.
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Post# 22901-10/11/2002-00:36 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: more pics (thnx appnut)
MESSAGE: Hey Bob, glad you liked the pics, what do you mean nice to see the washer not in pink?? Have you seen alot of those washers in pink??
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Post# 22902-10/11/2002-08:32 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: more photos (very cool pics)
MESSAGE: Hi GregM
The date is a bit of a mystery, there is a date code "08D", at a guess a 1958?
There is a Frigidaire crest on it, so Robert tells me that makes it 57 or later. (?)
Best Wishes
Chris
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Post# 22903-10/11/2002-08:33 ||| Rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Spin-X (Spin-X)
MESSAGE: yes, jason, i agree that there should be a window to watch the action...that was why i immediately was turned off to maytag neptune washer...a front loader without a window....i wish they would make a full size dishwasher with a glass door...
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Post# 22904-10/11/2002-08:36 ||| Rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: My "Laundromat"
MESSAGE: As I am awaiting arrival of 1947 Bendix front loader and 1950 Maytag wringer washer, plumber completed installation of hot and cold water lines and drain lines for up to 5 machines....electrician comes today to install electric outlets and lighting. On completion of his work, the plumber looked in my garage and called it......Ross' Laundromat.....
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Post# 22905-10/11/2002-08:45 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: GM-era Frigidaire Suds Savers
MESSAGE: Hi Eugene.
My round Frigidaire can suds save, and I regularly use it that way. I am on tank water, if I didn't save the suds I couldn't use the top loader at all. I do a load of whites first (hot water, ususally very lightly soiled) then re-use for darker, more heavily soiled work clothes.
The Frigidaire suds save is simple and works well, with one exception - the pulsator works when returning the soapy water, which splashes madly. The hose hanging into the washing machine prevents putting the lid on properly, so I have to put the lid on and use a towel to prevent splashes getting out from under the lid.
The pump out hose has a spring loaded rubber ball to block the water from being pumped out. If you set the ball to block, then when the machine spins out, the water is trapped in the outer drum. When you wish to return the soapy water, hand the hose outlet into the washer, release the hose blocker, replace the lid, set the control to pulsate, and drape a towel around the lid opening.
I don't really know what a filter flo style lint filer is... this one (on the semi auto WP) has a series of spiral ramps around the edge which protrude down into the water. As the agitator does its thing, little bits of water are shot up into the filter area. Barely worth the inconvenience if you ask me, they somewhat block the opening which makes for tricky loading/unloading.
Chris
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Post# 22906-10/11/2002-08:57 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: more photos
MESSAGE: Hi Mike.
The earlier Wilkins Servis washers were white only as far as I know, but by the psychedelic seventies they had a range of colours. I have had a Mk3 WS twin tub myself in green, (died of rust) and have seen other colours too. (brown, can't remember what else)
Monty loves dogs, if the schnitzels gave him any bother it would be four razor blades down the nose as many times as it took to teach them who is boss. (having said that, two very nasty dogs have moved in next door, so Monty and Millie are now confined inside or in their outdoor run. They used to get a free run every now and then.)
Best Wishes
Chris
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Post# 22907-10/11/2002-09:04 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Semi Auto (cat pics)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg,
I was wondering where you had got to.
Those semi auto's had one thing in their favour, they are good for washing the floor when you get distracted. The Whirlpool ones (like the one in the photo) with heater had a pressure switch (water level sensor)anyway (so you couldn't turn on the heater with no water) so the cost of not at least having a controlled fill would have only been the cost of an inlet valve. I thought once of modifying one so that the pressure switch controlled the water inlet (forget the heater), so that you coudn't flood it. Never got around to it...
Is your Monty a lunatic too?
Chris.
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Post# 22908-10/11/2002-09:16 ||| eugene (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: Semi-auto Whirlpool/Cats & Washers
MESSAGE: Gizmo-- A Filter-Flo filter was used on General Electric washers in the US for years. It looks like the one on the Whirlpool, but water is pumped into it, rather than water spurting into it from around the agitator.
I had a called The Swede who used to love watching my front-loader in action. She'd sit and watch the clothes go around until the spin cycle, at which point she'd lose interest and go take a nap.
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Post# 22909-10/11/2002-09:21 ||| eugene (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: RE: Windowless Neptunes/See-thru dishwashers
MESSAGE: Jasonl & Rossroberts-- I'm in full agreement about the lack of a window on the Neptune. I've owned several brands of washers over the years but never a Maytag. If the Neptune had a window, I'd get one in a heartbeat.
When I was a kid, there was a demonstration dishwasher at the local Sears store which had a clear plexiglass door so you could watch the action. I wanted SO BADLY for my folks to buy it, not understanding it was only a demo. I remember crying and stomping my feet because they wouldn't bring it home. (Hey, I was only about 5, OK?!)
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Post# 22910-10/11/2002-09:23 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: F&P Gentle Annie
MESSAGE: Here I am...
Chris.
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Post# 22911-10/11/2002-09:24 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: F&P Gentle Annie
MESSAGE: Sorry, here's the missing link...
LINK: http://uk.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gizmo_au63/lst?.dir=/cats+and+people&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//uk.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gizmo_au63/lst%3f%26.dir=/cats%2band%2bpeople%26.src=ph%26.view=t&.view=t
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Post# 22912-10/11/2002-10:04 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: GE POD
MESSAGE: Love today's pic of the 57 Filter Flo. It reminds me of the 55 we use to have. This 57 washer is the first GE I remember seeing with the timer control on the left side. Our old 55 had the same agitator except the top of it as well as the trim on the control panel and the background of the illuminated timer were aqua instead of pink. And thr back panel sat flushed flat instead of being raised like on this 57 and the 58 one of you guy's have in your collection.
I wish these ad photos came with close-up views of the main control knob. I've always enjoyed getting detailed views of how the cycles are displayed on a washer's timer.
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Post# 22913-10/11/2002-11:42 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: F&P Gentle Annie (nice )
MESSAGE: enjoyed looking at the pics Chris..........-gregm
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Post# 22914-10/11/2002-11:46 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Windowless Neptunes/See-thru dishwashers
MESSAGE: Hi Boys! There's a VERY good reason that Maytag didn't put a window in their frontloaders.....there's very little going on in there. They are probably the worst washing front loader on the market today. Put in a large comforter and start the machine. Wait 8 minutes or so. Pull the power cord, and take a look at the comforter......still not even wet in the center! Maytag does a lot of PR on how these machines get stains out, etc....but really just a lot of hooey. And, lets not even discuss their sorry excuses for water pumps in those machines!....and I AM a Maytag fan! Mark
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Post# 22915-10/11/2002-12:09 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Windowless Neptunes/See-thru dishwashers
MESSAGE: My question to Maytag is...
WHY?
No window on their frontloader. You gotta stick your finger in the back of the lid to watch the toploader and their new ones will blow a fuse if you try that. What's so wrong about watching a washing machine. What's so "unsafe" about it. I grew up with a Kenmore and I watched it the whole cycle (lid halfway up for spin). I knew better than to stick my hand in a spinning washer. Well, I used to duct tape the lid switch on my grandma's for full lid-up viewing. My little Lady has had her Lidswitchectomy and she runs great lid up. But Maytag? No way dude. You can NOT watch :-( unless you perform surgery.
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Post# 22916-10/11/2002-12:17 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: A new friend is coming over
MESSAGE: A new little friend is coming to stay with me. His name is Wizard and he says "meow"... I'm getting him tonight and there will be pictures. Just in time for a Friday wash-in! :-)
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Post# 22917-10/11/2002-12:21 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: F&P Gentle Annie
MESSAGE: How's about some pics of Gentle Annie herself?
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Post# 22918-10/11/2002-12:21 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Windowless Neptunes/See-thru dishwashers
MESSAGE: The new Maytag top loaders blow fuses if you push the safety switch with your finger? Are you serious? HEAVENS!
I never understood why Maytag felt it necessary even back in the 50's and 60's, to design their washers so you couldn't watch the in action. That's the one thing I always hated about them and I always thought, apart from that, that they were neat machines. When I was a little boy, The main thing I liked about my Mom's 55 Hotpoint and the 55 GE I inherited from my Great Aunt was the fact that they had no safety switch and I could watch all the cycles easily. And the Kenmores were no trouble because you could easily depress the lid switch during the spin cycle or tape it down with good strong duct tape.
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Post# 22919-10/11/2002-12:51 ||| geoff (Connecticut)
SUBJECT: RE: A new friend is coming over
MESSAGE: AWWWWW, Jason, I love cats!!! What a cute name, Please do post pictures as well as some more of your usual Friday Night Wash-Ins :) Congrats!!!!
Geoff
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Post# 22920-10/11/2002-13:49 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: SPEAKING OF KENMORES! (HE3(t) bleach)
MESSAGE: Hi Louis
Thats right non of the British machines had bleach dispensers in fact most only had one compartment for the powder until the late seventies when Hoover added the pre-wash and Fabric conditioner in their "Matchbox E" series of machines....
Hows you`re Miele 400 washer doing, do you use it regularly???
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 22921-10/11/2002-14:01 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Suds Savers (The UK Way!!!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Scott
Good points about the "Suds Savers"....when I think about all the wringer washers and twinnys the Brits had until recently, late 70`s/80`s, and the way we used the machines, nobody I ever knew would ditch the washwater every time you changed the clothes....most people would start with v.hot water for whites and then work through colourfast towels, then lights then darks etc, occasionally adding more powder when needed and perhaps a topup of warm water towards the end ....
I used to see many a line of perfectly washed clean clothes more often out of a wringer or twinny than out of the first autos....
I bet if you gave a TOL Miele/AEG/MaytAsko to a school leaver and asked them to wash a load in it and pitched any one of us with a new clean cement mixer/hot water/soap powder we could match em if not beat em hands down for results...LOL
Its like Rich says, no machines perfect but you get to know the way a machine works and you work with it...What do you say!!!
Happy Washing
Mike
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Post# 22922-10/11/2002-14:04 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Semi Auto (Whirlpool filter pans)
MESSAGE: Hi Glen
Whats a "MagicMix" Filter and how does it work etc????
Cheers,
Mike
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Post# 22923-10/11/2002-14:17 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: What Washer Is This...????
MESSAGE: Hi All
Over the water we`re busy watching the second series of "Six Feet Under"...massive hit over here...in the Fischers house what is the washer set, looks to me like the Maytag AMP 57 that Greg (Gansky)has in his collection....
Happy viewing
Mike
p.s.Robert love "The Lady" pic on the posting page!!!!
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Post# 22924-10/11/2002-14:23 ||| eugene (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: Those @#!!%&! Safety Lid Switches
MESSAGE: Face it guys; we live in an era where "DO NOT TAKE INTERNALLY" has to be written on shampoo bottles, so I can see where an appliance manufacturer would be expected to provide a safety switch during a high speed spin. But deactivating the fill and agitation portions of a cycle seems completely unnecessary.
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Post# 22925-10/11/2002-14:23 ||| eugene (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: Those @#!!%&! Safety Lid Switches
MESSAGE: Face it guys; we live in an era where "DO NOT TAKE INTERNALLY" has to be written on shampoo bottles, so I can see where an appliance manufacturer would be expected to provide a safety switch during a high speed spin. But deactivating the fill and agitation portions of a cycle seems completely unnecessary.
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Post# 22926-10/11/2002-14:43 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: What Washer Is This...???? (Whirlpool MagicMix "
waterfall"
Filter)
MESSAGE: Hiya, Mike!
Here are some pics from one of Greg's (Gansky) photo albums.
MagicMix filter The recirculation hose is clogged with hard-water build-up in this shot.
Recirculation Now the hose is cleared and there is water flowing.
The original design had water continuing to flow through when the machine switched to neutral drain, until the level dropped and it slowed to a trickle then finally stopped. As I recall, a design change on the pump in later years stopped the flow immediately when drain started.
The cap of the filter has a plastic-fiber brush attached to the underside, which snags the lint as the water flows through. The term MagicMix comes from using the filter as a powdered detergent dispenser -- which didn't always work so well -- there's not much room for a cup or more of powdered detergent in the reservoir along with putting the brush filter cap back on.
Our machine had a chrome filter cap with a window!
Still later, Whirlpool did away with the brush filter and reservoir on the top right corner and switched to a pull-out cartridge positioned between the top and tub ring, also at the right corner. Kenmore always used cartridges for their waterfall filters.
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Post# 22927-10/11/2002-14:44 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: What Washer Is This...???? (Whirlpool MagicMix )
MESSAGE: Actually, "MagicMix Dispenser Filter" was the official name at one point.
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Post# 22928-10/11/2002-14:48 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: What Washer Is This...????
MESSAGE: Six Feet Under is a runaway hit over here too - never miss it! They have two sets of "806" Maytags (this x06 style was made from about 1967 through the late 70's) in the house, one upstairs in the residence and one set downstairs in the workroom of the funeral home. In one of the first episodes, the mother was using the dryer in the workroom as the upstairs dryer was in need of servicing. The sets in the show are later versions of what I have, no distinct changes in the washers, but Maytag had a larger dryer with a 'bulkhead' stationary back drum and up-front lint filter. You can spot these style dryers by the larger, rectangular door. The earlier dryers had a smaller, square door and were known as "Halo of Heat" designs.
The AMP I have here now is a little similar in appearance to the later models with the timer dial in the center and the lighted glass panels.
Here is a picture of my 906 Maytags, same basic styling as the show's machines, but mine are the all pushbutton models. The 57 AMP is in the same album, but it's soon going to a new home - Steve 1-18 is picking up this washer for his collection here on Monday!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Maytag&.src=ph&.dnm=Maytag+Washer+A906.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Maytag%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 22929-10/11/2002-14:53 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Those @#!!%&! Safety Lid Switches (Clothespin trick ---)
MESSAGE: You can bypass the lid switch on the older '06 style Maytag washers, and the newer Maytag made washers with 1/2 of a wooden spring-type closepin. Open the lid, wedge the stick in between the lid and the switch button with the indented side of the pin to the lid and voila! you have lid-up viewing with no surgery!
I use this all the time with my 906 Maytag - the lid switch is connected to the off-balance switch and the tub light, so I left it all orginal in mine.
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Post# 22930-10/11/2002-16:03 ||| earthling177 (Boston, MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Those @#!!%&! Safety Lid Switches
MESSAGE: Sorry, Eugene, but I have to disagree at least partially.
If one is to believe the rhetoric of "safe operation" for a washer, the hot water fill can cause scalding. Even after it filled, the hot water with strong chemicals (particularly chlorine bleach) can cause harm, even when little kids don't put their limbs into the washer -- just a splash of the wash solution can cause harm to young eyes, for example.
That said, we did not have lid switches in Brazil until the early 80's or so. All top loaders would just run the entire cycle with the lids up. The only machines with lid switches (but no lid locks) were front loaders, and those had disappeared from the market by the late 60's.
Parents would teach the kids to either stay away from the washers or how to use them properly. I remember kids (including me) being fascinated by the spray rinse, for example, since an early age -- and no, the majority of those kids don't even like laundry, much less watching their machines now that they've grown up. (I believe, altho I can be wrong, that mothers would take advantage of their kids fascination with the process to get free help, at least that's what happened with the families I knew...)
Reports of serious accidents with washers *only* started appearing *after* lid switches and lid locks became common. Apparently parents would just think "Oh, what the heck, we don't have to pay attention to the kids or the washer, it has a safety switch!" and bam!, that's when the kids would find out how to bypass the "safety" switch and get hurt.
Safety is important, and I am by no means saying we shouldn't have it, but the other extreme (when parents are completely careless) is bad too. Also, they could *easily* make it even safer just by having a window on the lid, most kids would happily watch thru the window without opening the lid. Maybe we can start lobbying the congress for such a law and then Maytag Neptune will have to have a window by law... ;-P
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Post# 22931-10/11/2002-16:10 ||| earthling177 (Boston, MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Windowless Neptunes/See-thru dishwashers
MESSAGE: Yes, we had reports of people who owned the Maytag Atlantis here in the forum saying that there are two switches and if the lid is up but the other switch is on, a fuse blows. Sad. The only way to watch the cycle, we were told, without major surgery was to open the top of the machine, so the switches were all thinking the lid, and thus the machine, was closed.
Another irritating "feature" we saw recently during the convention was that the WP Calypso washer has the computer check that the lid was opened then closed before turning on the washer -- great so people won't run two cycles with the same load inadvertently, but hard to circumvent. The host of that event had attached an external switch so we could watch the cycle with the lid open.
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Post# 22932-10/11/2002-18:03 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Meet Wizard!
MESSAGE: Here he is. He's a little baby kitten 5wks old. He saw the Frigemore in action and loved it! Here's a pic cute pics.
LINK: http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/kenmore800/lst?&.dir=/pictures/wizard&.src=bc&.view=t&.begin=1&.order=&.done=http%3a//briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/kenmore800/lst%3f%26.dir=/pictures/wizard%26.src=bc%26.view=t
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Post# 22933-10/11/2002-18:40 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Meet Wizard! (I already adore him!)
MESSAGE: Wizard is so cute! I actualy fell out of my chair and smacked the back of my head on the side of my bed! Only because he is so cute!
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Post# 22934-10/11/2002-18:42 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: What Washer Is This...???? (Maytag all button! WOW!)
MESSAGE: What does the inside of this beauty look like? I would love to know!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Maytag&.src=ph&.dnm=Maytag+Washer+A906.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Maytag%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 22935-10/11/2002-18:48 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Meet Wizard!
MESSAGE: Hey Jason
What a cute kitten. Love those big blue eyes. Our cat loves to watch the front loader too. As soon as he hears me in the laundry room loading the machine, he runs in and jumps up on the clothes hamper, which gives him a direct level view into the washer.
Rich
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Post# 22936-10/11/2002-19:13 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Meet Wizard!
MESSAGE: What a nice little kitty. Thanks for sharing your pictures!
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Post# 22937-10/11/2002-19:32 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: more pics (thnx appnut)
MESSAGE: Greg, I seem to see lots of ads on Ebay for a bit later Whirlpool washer in Pink. Personally, I don't really like pink appliances. I know, I'm the renegade of the club LOL.
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Post# 22938-10/11/2002-19:41 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: F&P Gentle Annie
MESSAGE: Chris thanks for all thepics. It's finally hnice to see you, Stephen, and the cats and stuff. Nice to put faces with names. Chris, you remind me a bit of actor Rod Taylor.
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Post# 22939-10/11/2002-19:42 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: GE POD
MESSAGE: YAY Lesto, another timer cycle enthusiast here!!!!
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Post# 22940-10/11/2002-19:53 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Meet Wizard!
MESSAGE: CONGRATULATIONS!!!! JASON!!! he is a cutie. Glad he liked Sir Fridgemore.
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Post# 22941-10/11/2002-20:05 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: more pics (Go Pink!!)
MESSAGE: Oh, come on Bob - you know deep down inside, somewhere hiding, is a little bit of affection for pink! Don't be afraid, it's OK to like pink!
;-)
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Post# 22942-10/11/2002-20:08 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Meet Wizard! (Congrats on the new Kitty!)
MESSAGE: Jason,
Thanks for sharing your new kitten through your pictures. I love kittens! My two are now very grown up. One is 17.5 years, and the other is 3 years. They have brought so much happiness to my life. They are really best friends, that are always there for you! Truly gifts!
Did you already have a cat, or is this a first?
Brent
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Post# 22943-10/11/2002-21:15 ||| joesplace (col,oh)
SUBJECT: RECYCLE CENTER
MESSAGE: ANY ONE IN OHIO INTERESTED IN A RCA WHIRLPOOL DRYER MODLE #W6018210W SER #M503077 EXELENT COND LITTLE IF ANY RESTORATION NEEDED
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Post# 22944-10/11/2002-22:35 ||| geoff (Connecticut)
SUBJECT: RE: Meet Wizard!
MESSAGE: AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW, Jason, He's ADORABLE!!!!!!!!, I have such a weakness for cats. Best wishes!!! You gotta love those adorable blue eyes :)
Regards, Geoff
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Post# 22945-10/11/2002-22:49 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Windowless Neptunes/See-thru dishwashers
MESSAGE: My guess is that Maytag, as one of the first manufacturers of top loading washers, probably got sued by someone who was injured by opening the lid of a washer in action. So their lawyers and their insurance company have insisted upon extra measures to prevent such occurances. So I wouldn't blame Maytag as much as I would fault our careless and overly litigious society.
I can see no safety advantage, however, to a windowless front loader, except perhaps that the glass window on front loaders that have heaters can get hot enough to burn those who touch them. This has not however prevented euro mfgs from producing windowed front loaders. The HE3t gets hotter than the Neptune and solves the problem with a double window.
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Post# 22946-10/11/2002-23:06 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Meet Wizard! (thanks)
MESSAGE: It's amazing. I put him on top of a box and he is so small he can stand in the window of the Frigemore and watch it run. He loves when it fills with water. I thought he would be afraid of the noise and the vibration when it spins but it didn't bother him. In fact, he was laying on my lap almost asleep when the Frigemore was going up to full speed (loudest).
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Post# 22947-10/11/2002-23:07 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Meet Wizard! (Congrats on the new Kitty!)
MESSAGE: My first cat is about 18 years old and living at my parents house. She's getting really really sick now and I think will die soon :-( . So maybe getting a new kitty will the replacement. I hate to see the old one die but I don't like to see her really sick like that.
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Post# 22948-10/11/2002-23:45 ||| joesplace (col,oh)
SUBJECT: RCA WHIRLPOOL DRYER
MESSAGE: RCA WHIRLPOOL DRYER MODLE#W6018210W SER#M503077
ANY ONE INTERESTED -
GERAT COND VERY WELL TAKEN CRE OF LITTLE USE
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Post# 22949-10/12/2002-00:00 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Did you have any good news today?
MESSAGE: My neighbor across the street walked over today and asked me this question, for which I had no answer, and told me that he pulled a very old washer and dryer out of a lady's house today that he thought I might like. We walked over to his truck and there what he found was a 50's square tub Maytag wringer washer and a DDGK Frigidaire dryer - in sunny yellow. We pulled the dryer off and waved goodbye to the wringer. The dryer is gas, 1966 Deluxe model. He told me that it was running fine when he pulled it out. I plugged it in and ran it for a few minutes (no gas in the garage) and it did run smoothly. If anyone is interested, let me know or I'll pull a few parts from it and send it away as I don't have need or room for it.
It is very pretty - I seemed to have moved from harvest gold to sunny yellow now, this is the third dryer I've found in this color - maybe the tide is turning and pink is on the way!!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/New+pics&.src=ph&.dnm=DDGK+Dryer+in+sunny+yellow.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/New%2bpics%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 22950-10/12/2002-00:02 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: RCA WHIRLPOOL DRYER
MESSAGE: Was it similar to this dryer - but white?
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Collection+Photos&.src=ph&.dnm=RCA+WP+Dryer+1960.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Collection%2bPhotos%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 22951-10/12/2002-03:41 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: SPEAKING OF KENMORES! (HE3(t) bleach)
MESSAGE: Hello Mike,
I can remember my grandmother's first Zanussi that didn't have a soap dispenser at all. The instruction was to put the detergent on the laundry halfway loading. My mother's Bosch from 1966 had a small cup that you put in the prewash dispenser after it had filled for the prewash. The cup was used for fabric softener.
My Miele (BTW it's a W715) is doing fine. It's the washer I use most although my small AEG toploader is used quite often too. I'm addicted to the dance it performs while spinning.
How is your collection? You must have quite a laundryroom by now!
Louis
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Post# 22952-10/12/2002-06:36 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Did you have any good news today?
MESSAGE: I have to agree with you Greg - - that sunny yellow is a great color. Anything in that color would be a find! While I do love the turquoise and pink - as well as poppy and avocado - that yellow is nice and subtle.
I recently found a 1-18 dryer in harvest gold at a Real Estate open house. Of course it was in an incredibly dark basement so I couldn't tell if it was just filthy or worse - so for the next open house, I will go with my trusty flashlight. Actually, it was so dark I couldn't tell if it was gold or avocado...........
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Post# 22953-10/12/2002-06:37 ||| imperial70 (Mass)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoints & Kenmores (Changing Agitators?)
MESSAGE: I'm a little new to this whole appliance enthusiast hobby.
I acutally have a 1997 Kenmore 70 series with the Dual Action Agitator. The blades at the bottom are a horrow story on anthing delicate. I had thought of changing out the agitator with a Super Surgilator from a 1980's Whirlpool. I had one of those and it worked much gentler on clothes. Is it possible to put the older Super Surgilator in place of the dual action in my kenmore?
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Post# 22954-10/12/2002-06:45 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: Disappointing Estate Sales
MESSAGE: Well, folks, the past few weeekends have offered nothing in the local estate sales. First of all there are far fewer as the weather gets toward fall, but the selection of appliances is so disappointing. With the exception of a 1951 Bendix dryer (which was not for sale) every single house has had either a recent model Maytag, Whirlpool or WCI Frigidaire (top loading of course) set
The only even remotely promising things I found were a very early 1960's Frigidaire dryer - probably one of the first solid drum models - paired with an early 1980's GE filter flo washer. I did offer to buy those, but the homeowner insisted that these were being sold with the house. I thought the GE would be a great extra washer - since I miss my mini basket in the worst way and my Amana was down for several weeks while a part was on order. Both were in mint condition too. Well, at least they said they would consider my offer and let me know.... we will see.
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Post# 22955-10/12/2002-06:55 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoints & Kenmores (Changing Agitators?)
MESSAGE: The agitator wouldn't fit in the newer washer. Also, the agitation on the belt drive washers were slower and had a longer stroke. The new washer has a fast short stroke. So even if you could put the surgilator on the new washer, it would still be murder on your clothes. Want gentle action and a fast spin? Get a Frigemore :-) . Those are the best.
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Post# 22956-10/12/2002-07:35 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: more pics (Go Pink!!)
MESSAGE: I agree. Three cheers for pink! That 57 GE filter-flo pair in pink on yesterday's POD was beautiful! Even the control and agitator top were pink.
Speaking of washing, it's time for me to get the first load going in my front-loader. My cat Sylvester is already sitting impatiently in front of the glass window. He likes to watch as much as I do. ;-)
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Post# 22957-10/12/2002-07:40 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Did you have any good news today?
MESSAGE: I've never been very fond of the late 60's and early 70's colors: Harvest gold, coppertone, avacado. I've always prefered the earlier colors: pink, sunny yellow, turquoise.
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Post# 22958-10/12/2002-07:57 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: F&P Gentle Annie
MESSAGE: Hi DADoES,
Annie lives with my mother now, Mum got the upgrade when I got my hands on a Smart Drive. I have a dead ECS Autowasher in the garage which is essentially the same machine as the Gentle Annie, just an option or two less and no cutsie name, I can post a photo of that sooner or later. Next visit to the parents I will get a photo of Annie herself. I wish I had the technology to post the sounds of a Gentle Annie, it is a bit weird. The agitator moves in an arc similar to a "normal" top load washer, about 180 degrees or less, and at about the same strokes per minute, and without the tiny pause between strokes that the Smart Drive does, so the motor has to reverse direction really fast, it almost bounces from one direction to the other. The motor makes a strange droning sound when agitating, and a whine when spinning. If anything I think the GA is better quality construction than the Smart Drive, to me it reflects Fisher and Paykel's origins and involvement in medical equipment. The electronic motor control unit lives in its own metal box in the base of the cabinet and the circuit contains some oddball FET's or transistors, (which have blown in my dead unit) and there appears to be no equivalent available anywhere (I have done global searches on the net) so it may be permanently deceased.
Chris.
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Post# 22959-10/12/2002-07:58 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: Norge Timeline question
MESSAGE: How do you set the timer on the Timeline washer? Does the knob rotate or does it slide from left to right along with the indicator pointer? I was curious as how you brought the pointer back to the start of the cycle once it reached the "off" position. It seems like sliding it from right to left would be like turning a rotary timer the wrong way and would strip the notches on the timer.
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Post# 22960-10/12/2002-08:15 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Meet Wizard!
MESSAGE: Hi Jason
Wizard is gorgeous. I have a particular weakness for black cats.
I have read before (and believe it myself) that coat colour and personality are genetically linked in cats. (to a degree)
Black cats are often big softies, rather timid and inclined to avoid strangers and potential threats. They need their owner to provide a secure environment free from perceived threats so that they feel safe and secure before they can relax. They like constancy and routine, don't like change. Do that and you will have a happy cat.
Best of luck with him.
Chris.
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Post# 22961-10/12/2002-10:12 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Did you have any good news today?
MESSAGE: ooooooooooooooooohhh, I wish this was an electric one! Would love to have it if it were :~( PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, don't take it apart for parts and junk the rest. While not a top of the line, it's still pretty rare and 5 or 10 years down the line, you'll kick yourself if you do junk it. Someone in the club would surely want such a great find as this. Mark
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Post# 22962-10/12/2002-10:39 ||| eugene (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: Coronado/Speed Queen Question
MESSAGE: Was there ever a manufacturing connection between the Coronado and Speed Queen brands? A friend's early 1960's-era Coronado's motor (pump too?) ran during fill, as with the SQ. I recall it being quite a racket, actually.
jasonl---congrats on the handsome new addition to the family! Who plays guitar? Do you have a band?
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Post# 22963-10/12/2002-10:43 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Did you have any good news today?
MESSAGE: Hi Mark -
You could take the cabinet and combine it with an electric model guts and have an electric dryer. The only real drawback to this dryer is that I don't think the top is porcelain. It's in good condition, and I haven't looked at it too closely, but I think it's just painted. The valve and burner assemblies in these dryers are at the top of the drum on each side of the cabinet and if the top isn't porcelain, the heat and combustion gasses from the burner would not be kind to the underside of that painted top. I'll pop the top today and have a look - it may be a goner already!
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Post# 22964-10/12/2002-10:49 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Coronado/Speed Queen Question
MESSAGE: In the early 50's, many of the components of the Coronado and Speed Queen machines were made by Beam (later Franklin) but moving into the 60's, the machines would have been much different from one another internally, although still both solid basket washers. Coronado was an entirely a Franklin machine while the Speed Queen kept their same basic design up until the early 70's. I would imagine the pump running during fill on both machines would have been coincidental, plus the Speed Queen machines usually ran very quietly when properly adjusted.
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Post# 22965-10/12/2002-13:47 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Did you have any good news today?
MESSAGE: Greg, I have a very sneaky suspicion that that sunny yellow dryer may be leaving with Steve 1/18. It's a match, although not in color, to a washer he has that needs some work on it.
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Post# 22966-10/12/2002-13:53 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: more pics (Go Pink!!)
MESSAGE: I love it. Sylvester knows when its wash day already. What a CAT!!!! Wish I was there with you to sit & watch the washer.
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Post# 22967-10/12/2002-14:06 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: more pics (Go Pink!!)
MESSAGE: I wish you were, too. That's the only thing I don't like about this great group. We're all spread out across the country which makes it quite difficult to have wash-ins together.
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Post# 22968-10/12/2002-16:00 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: more pics (Wash-ins)
MESSAGE: Hey Les,
Don't despair, there are some wonderful members living quite near you, so I'm sure you will be able to attend a wash-in sometime. I already came twice from Europe to join a convention and I can say that it was worth traveling that far. And I'm sure I will come over to the US more often and hope to meet you then.
Louis
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Post# 22969-10/12/2002-17:43 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: more pics (Wash-ins)
MESSAGE: That would be great, Louis!
Les
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Post# 22970-10/12/2002-18:40 ||| Imperial70 (Mass)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoints & Kenmores (Changing Agitators?)
MESSAGE: I figured that the stroke was different because the spiral screw moves in short fast bursts. And the impeller at the bottom might as well be part of a blender. You could mix some mean marguerita's in that thing.
I have considered the GE/Frigidare/Kenmore front loader. It reminds me of the Westy front loader that my mom had under the counter when I was a kid.
I have also been looking at the Staber Industries washer. Very simple design. I'm just afraid of them going out of business. They have a custom motor controller board that could need replacing and if they aren't around to support it ....
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Post# 22971-10/12/2002-19:02 ||| mooney6au (Sydney, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Semi Auto (cat pics)
MESSAGE: Hi Chris,
Been a bit preoccupied with relationship problems - husband recently announced he needs to leave the relationship on a journey of self discovery. I respect this but it still hurts.
Monty and his friend Nestor are both Australian Mists and fabulous natured cats (based on burmese, abyssinian and tabbie). They both take an interest in washing but I've only got the pic of Monty.
I've never seen a Gentle Annie myself so I look forward to the pics.
Greg
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/mooney6au2000/vwp?.dir=/Choice+magazine+1964&.src=ph&.dnm=montywashing.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/mooney6au2000/lst%3f%26.dir=/Choice%2bmagazine%2b1964%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 22972-10/13/2002-04:48 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: 1955 AEG Lavalux
MESSAGE: There are still a few twintubs with pulsators on the mainland of Europe. Although they were sold quite a lot in the UK, they disappeared from the market on the mainland as soon as the tumblewasher was brought out. Here's a wonderful AEG twintub from 1955 that looks like new.
Louis
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2060892037
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Post# 22973-10/13/2002-05:14 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: What Washer Is This...???? (Whirlpool MagicMix )
MESSAGE: Hi Glen
Thanks for the link and explaination, I get it now....when was the filter bag finished with as on "The 57 Lady Kenmore" & Whirly range???
Our machines where never big on advertising feature names like MagicMix Filters, Do-All Dials and Roto-Swirl agis...does make it much more interesting...
Mike
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Post# 22974-10/13/2002-05:22 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: What Washer Is This...????
MESSAGE: Hi Greg
Love the look of these washers, so simple yet very elegant, why are you passing this one on to Steve, do you have two???
I take it the Halo-of-Heat is the name given because of the circular heating element, or is it something completly different???
The Laundry Studio is looking great with the new colour really sets the washers off, look forward to seeing them in person one day!!!
Cheers, Mike
p.s. We are on the second series of Six Feet Under through digital, what are you watching??
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Post# 22975-10/13/2002-05:24 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Meet Wizard! (Very Cute!!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Jason
One very cute kitten, glad to see Wizard`s getting used to the washers etc, enjoy!!!!
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 22976-10/13/2002-05:28 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: more pics (thnx appnut(Pretty In Pink))
MESSAGE: Hi Bob
Never a renegade more like a "Pink Panther"
"Ouch!!!!I feel a Big Slap coming across the water...LOL
I think you should invest in a match pot and try it out, you never know!!!
With pinkness
Mike
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Post# 22977-10/13/2002-08:49 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Semi Auto (cat pics)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg.
Sorry to hear about the relationship woes.
I got a nasty shock when hubby number 1 announced it was over just past our first anniversary. I didn't see it coming at all, it knocked me for six. I swore off relationships, decided they were all too much bother, single was the life for me! Shortly afterwards I met someone, fell in deep again, sixteen years later we're still entwined (though we have had our moments...)
I hope you get your happily ever after, too.
Best Wishes
Chris
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Post# 22978-10/13/2002-09:22 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Semi Auto (cat pics)
MESSAGE: Same thing happened to me. Hubby number one decided just a few days before our first anniversary that he needed to go "find himself". About two years later I met hubby number two. We've been together now for eleven and a half years and last I heard, hubby number one hasn't found himself yet. LOL.
Now if I could only get the current hubby interested in vintage washers but I'm afraid he didn't get the "agitator gene". :sigh:
Whenever there is a particularly exciting POD like the pink 57 GE's from the other day, I always drag him over to the computer for a look see. But he just says "that's very nice, dear", rolls his eyes and goes back to whatever he was doing. Oh well. He just doesn't know the fun he's missing. He teases me when I tell him how I used to watch all my relatives and neighbors washers when I was a kid and he also doesn't understand why I like to sit and watch our frontloader washing. At least our cat "get's it".
Les
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Post# 22979-10/13/2002-09:51 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: What Washer Is This...????
MESSAGE: Hi Mike-
I don't have two of this Maytag design, I just have so little room in the laundry rooms and have to make some difficult choices about what I can keep around here. That AMP Maytag was found by Jon Charles at a trash dump and has made the rounds through the club so it's fitting that it should be passed on to another member now. Steve will enjoy it, I'm sure.
The Halo-of-Heat was a circular element in the front of the drum around the opening with the exhaust fan at the back of the drum drawing air over the elements and through the clothes load.
Glad you like the color of the Frigidaire Room - I plan on doing some more painting in the other room this winter to spruce that up as well. It would all get done a lot faster if I win the lotto, I should check my ticket from last night!
We will be starting the third season of Six this winter sometime - did you notice the dishwasher changed in the kitchen from the first to the second season? It was a Kitchen Aid 17 series in the first season and it changed to a D&M machine in the second.
Take care- Greg
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Post# 22980-10/13/2002-10:15 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Semi Auto (cat pics)
MESSAGE: Greg - loved the pic of Monty - - very adorable! Sorry for your relationship woes also. No matter what the reason, it hurts - went through it myself not long ago. After 13 years, mine left me for someone else he had been seeing for 8 months. A horror story to be sure, and sometimes it still hurts, but you manage to move forward. Just don't expect too much from yourself and don't let others tell you how you should feel and how long it should take you to feel better
A peice of advice that I wish I had followed myself - if he decides to come back, ask yourself "What, if anything has changed"? If the answer is "Nothing", then be very cautious. I wasn't and within 7 months of our reconciliation, I was dumped again. I wish you the best.....
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Post# 22981-10/13/2002-10:46 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1955 AEG Lavalux
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, that is a very Royal twintub washer indeed! Thank you for sharing the link.
QEOM
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Post# 22982-10/13/2002-13:21 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Semi Auto (cat pics)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg, Must be something in the detergent, because my husband of a year and a half just announced that he also would "like some time to himself" and just closed on a condo. Stupid me thought everything was going great. I have been helping him move so that he is out of here as quickly as possible. Yes it hurts. I've done a lot of washing this week to keep my mind preoccupied and it helps. You might want to try the same "washing clothes" and "washer/dryer restoration" therapy that I am using as it really DOES help take your mind off things. Good luck. Mark
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Post# 22983-10/13/2002-14:13 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: Relationship Woe's
MESSAGE: No offence, but can we talk about relationship problems and unrelated topics to the club in the sandbox?
Brent
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Post# 22984-10/13/2002-14:29 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: 1955 AEG Lavalux
MESSAGE: I like it!
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Post# 22985-10/13/2002-14:34 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: What Washer Is This...???? (Whirlpool MagicMix )
MESSAGE: Do you mean the filter-bag for dryers? Honestly, I don't know. Our 1964 Whirlpool dryer had a top-mounted filter screen. Greg's 1960 Sunny Yellow dryer does as well, so it was either 1960 or earlier.
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Post# 22986-10/13/2002-14:53 ||| tucker (San Diego)
SUBJECT: Big thanks to Tom Turbo and John
MESSAGE: Just wanted to say thanks for the enjoyable visit to the museum and the late night drive by which yielded that late 60's key board kenmore washer =) Thanks guys, finially got to see and get pictures of vintage appliances =)
John how did you find that site with the trucks dump off old appliances, you could practically resell half of those, i would love to find a place like that out here. Do you know how i could go about finding a place like that out here?
Thanks again you guys are great!
~Steven in California
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Post# 22987-10/13/2002-16:32 ||| SHAWN (Waterford Ct)
SUBJECT: Drain Pump's
MESSAGE: How did the drain pump's work on the old front loader's of the 60's ( Westinghouse-Bendix- Easy, was the drain powered by the motor that turned the tub?
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Post# 22988-10/13/2002-18:24 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: Meeting with New Friends..........
MESSAGE: Hi all, just a short note from Hershey PA. Am away for the car swap meet, Doug and Bill (Cycla-Fabric) from Jersey drove down on Sat to spend a few hours hunting car parts. We still managed to talk a bit about appliances. Going junkyarding tomorrow in upper PA. Wish me LUCK! There are often vintage washers and dryers among the cars. Maybe an APEX?
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Post# 22989-10/13/2002-21:01 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: more pics (thnx appnut(love any colors!))
MESSAGE: Bob, if you see any colored apps, let me know !! (hehe), I probably will not go for it because of shipping costs, but man oh man, i LOVE any colored appliance except for avocado green. I grew up with that, it wasn't pretty,............
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Post# 22990-10/13/2002-21:07 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: RECYCLE CENTER (what year?)
MESSAGE: thanks as always for keeping us abreast on available old apps. I think I speak for many in here. What year is the RCA dryer?? thanks....................-gregm
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Post# 22991-10/13/2002-21:09 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Semi Auto (cat pics)
MESSAGE: Hi Mark. I agree with you on that one - - after my ex went to find himself (along with his new boyfriend), I probably broke a new washing record. I did more laundry than I ever thought possible. If I could have fit the dining room table in the washer, I probably would have washed that too. And it DID help (but you never really do forget)!! There was something very soothing about the whole laundry process and perhaps I felt like I was washing the ex out of my life as part of the bargain.........
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Post# 22992-10/13/2002-21:11 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Did you have any good news today? (nice color!!)
MESSAGE: thats a really nice color Greg ! I think much nicer than the seventies harvest gold..........
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Post# 22993-10/13/2002-21:12 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: RCA WHIRLPOOL DRYER (u still have this?)
MESSAGE: Did you get rid of this dryer?
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Post# 22994-10/13/2002-21:15 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Disappointing Estate Sales (hi !!)
MESSAGE: you got to love it when they say " oh no, sorry, those will be sold with the house, (the new owners will probably buy new and trashem).........
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Post# 22995-10/13/2002-21:19 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: 1955 AEG Lavalux (cool ! )
MESSAGE: Louis that is very cool, how much in American?
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Post# 22996-10/13/2002-21:19 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Did you have any good news today? (nice color!!)
MESSAGE: That is a color that I have never really seen in person and I wonder if some of that is regional. While I am fond of the pink and turquoise, the yellow is really a favorite. I tend to think that here in the Northeast or at least in the New York area, colors were really rare.
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Post# 22997-10/13/2002-21:30 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Disappointing Estate Sales (hi !!)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg, that is where phase 2 of my plan comes into play. I will then follow the real estate transactions and contact the new owners directly. Sad that we have to go through all that extra work, but I guess it is worth it. And I can't imagine that young families with kids will want those appliances.
I suppose that some people simply cannot understand the interest.......
On a different note, how are you enjoying the Filtrator? I went to look at it the same night you came to CT in that dreadful rain and I thought of hanging around to meet you, but I thought the homeowner probably wouldn't appreciate that. Just out of curiosity, what did you think of him? Perhaps that is a question that is best answered in the sandbox........
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Post# 22998-10/13/2002-22:33 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: RCA WHIRLPOOL DRYER (u still have this?)
MESSAGE: I still have the WP dryer, it's a 1960 Imperial, electric. I spent some time on it last week and have been using it in the garage now. It needs new belts, but it runs very well. I love the lighted panel...
If I find a gas dryer for the garage, I will probably look for a home for this Whirlpool.
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Post# 22999-10/13/2002-22:41 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Disappointing Estate Sales (Sales...)
MESSAGE: Only once in a while do I see washers and dryers at sales that aren't for sale, and when they are marked NFS, it's something I wouldn't be interested in anyway - too new. It's very rare that people leave a washer and dryer (or refrigerator) in a house they are selling here, usually only built-in appliances and the stove/range. Some clients of mine moved recently and I was shocked when they sold their house with their 6 month old fridge, but it was a Frigidaire ;-)
Sales here this weekend were OK, but I did find a turquoise Sunbeam Mixmaster, and won the bid (they were asking $75 but I got it for 1/2) and will pick it up tomorrow. Not much in the appliance sights, an early 70's Speed Queen dryer with a pretty stainless steel drum, but that's about it.
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Post# 23000-10/13/2002-22:47 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Drain Pump's
MESSAGE: Bendix pumps were attached directly to the motor and operated with a solenoid valve that opened to drain the water. Westinghouse used a pump that was driven by a friction wheel, a solenoid was used to pull the pump drive wheel into contact with the motor. Easy combos used a belt driven pump.
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Post# 23001-10/13/2002-22:53 ||| cleanteamofny (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: Whirlpool Agitators
MESSAGE: I'm a little perplexed with Whirlpools agitators?
On the belt drive machines, did Whirlpool use the same agitators in the 24" models as well as the 29"?
And also, what other colors did they come in beside black and white?
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Post# 23002-10/14/2002-00:10 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Agitators
MESSAGE: Corrections and additional info welcome . . .
Whirlpool used a straight vane agitator for a short while wayyy back at the beginning. It came in black bakelite, and a mottled red/black.
Then they switched to the familiar Surgilator, which was in black bakelite and white poly, and possibly a very light bluish tinge? I don't recall ever seeing a red Surgilator.
The first 18-pounder used a super-sized Surgilator in black bakelite. The very large lower fins caused trouble with the tranny and possibly with the agitator itself breaking, so they quickly reduced the size.
A minor design change was made on the Surgilator over time, to increase the size of the lower fins slightly so they extended just a bit over the skirt. This was white poly.
Compact 24" and 29" models used the same Surgilator design, possibly different sizes to fit the basket appropriately.
In the late 1970s or early 1980s, the 18-pound machines were fitted with the Double-Duty Surgilator, which had wings around the edge of the skirt, for better clothes movement and water action at the very bottom of the basket, and the fins running up the barrel were a bit more curved.
The direct-drive Design2000 in the early 1980s used a modified Double-Duty Surgilator, with four vanes instead of three.
This morphed over time into the cork-screw Dual-Action.
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Post# 23003-10/14/2002-01:59 ||| Bill-MO (Brookline Station, MO)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Agitators
MESSAGE: Was the mottled red/black agitator the one they used in the 2-part movie "Mother Takes A Holiday"?
Off-Topic here...reading the relationship woes of members is better reading than the current daytime soap opera episodes that the networks are running. My last bf couldn't understand my fascination with washing machines, makes a much better ex if I say so myself. Could start a separate string of messages relating to relationships, any suggestions on what the name would be?
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Post# 23004-10/14/2002-02:12 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Agitators (Red)
MESSAGE: Yup, that's it.
I have both parts of "Mother Takes a Holiday" in the higher quality mpeg4 format (Part 1 is 40 MB and Part 2 is 46 MB). The video is great, but there's no sound. Anybody else have that problem?
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Post# 23005-10/14/2002-03:23 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Semi Auto (cat pics)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg
Good to hear from you, Monty looks well in control of the washing, I got confused and thought Chris`s pic was the gentle Annie....still looking for the Keymatic and no sign of the Servis MK41 but we live in hope.....
Not sure you`ve seen the latest twinny pics...I`ll post the link...
Cheers, Mike
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/chestermikeuk/lst?.dir=/TwinTubs&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/
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Post# 23006-10/14/2002-03:27 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: 1955 AEG Lavalux (Must Have!!!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Louis
What a beauty, you`ve got to get this one....rent your old apartment for your washer studio....
this looks great all those levers and switches, like driving a tank on washday....and knowing AEG it will have been built like one as well...
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Post# 23007-10/14/2002-04:17 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: What Washer Is This...????
MESSAGE: Hi Greg
Was the Halo-Of Heat considered a good design, and is it still used in use today???
The Servis dryers used this method, Sucking instead of blowing and their heating elements where always a lot lower wattage than say Hotpoint & Hoover...because the wind power was higher...they marketed this the same as a "Good Line Drying Day" lots of wind and not necessarily a lot of sun needed.
Thinking about it it must have been a good because in the early 90`s Servis made dryers and washers for Hitachi using the same principles when they where breaking into the White Goods arena...
Mike
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Post# 23008-10/14/2002-06:40 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Agitators
MESSAGE: How about "EX and the City"??
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Post# 23009-10/14/2002-06:43 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: 1955 AEG Lavalux (cool ! )
MESSAGE: Since the value of the Dollar and the Euro are almost the same at the moment the highest bid is $25.- right now.
Louis
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Post# 23010-10/14/2002-06:45 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: 1955 AEG Lavalux (Must Have!!!!)
MESSAGE: Unfortunately the apartment downstairs is occupied and I don't have that much space left. Besides that it's quite far away from where I live. I have just a tiny spot left for a Philips toploader, the Lavalux is too big for that.
Louis
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Post# 23011-10/14/2002-06:48 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: What Washer Is This...????
MESSAGE: IMHO, the Halo of Heat design was more of a pain than it was worth. I knew a few people that had them and they seemed to be slow dryers - so I don't know if the fan was less powerful than others. I hated that lint screen at the back of the drum. You had bend down and into the dryer and remove a plastic cover to get at it. I suspect that people got tired of that very quickly. That was about as easy to work with as the idea of hiding the lint screen behind a small door that was behind the bottom access panel on the Philco Bendix dryers. The Halo of Heat design is no longer used and mercifully, Maytag has moved the lint filters to the front of the drum and widened the door opening considerably, although I do not remember when.
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Post# 23012-10/14/2002-07:07 ||| cleanteamofny (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Agitators (Fascinating)
MESSAGE: The reason why I've asked this question, I've ran across an Whirlpool washer without the control panel and inside there was a light tint blue agitator and white colored fabric softener dispenser that was still in the machine which I have never seen before!
This agitator was for a super capacity machine because of the tub size and I've removed them (tug-tug-pull because of rust) to bring them home!
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As for their updated Double Duty Surgilator,the wings on the skirt was placed in the wrong area IMO because, the power of the water current was off the edge of the blade and Whirlpool should have center the added wings on the blade area for faster upsweep of the water current!
Also, I believe that the Surgilator turns the clothes over just as fast as the Dual Action, even if the water lever is 1" above the Surgilator's blade!
This is one very powerful agitator in the belt drive machine and the new design Surgilator for the D/D was the worst of them all.
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Post# 23013-10/14/2002-07:57 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: What Washer Is This...???? (Halo-Of-Heat)
MESSAGE: You pretty much pegged the design pretty well, I use mine constantly and it does work fine but is better with larger loads than with small loads. The moisture sensing system on the fins is quite good and other than heavy seams on jeans, everything comes out perfectly dry. The other problem with the halo design was the possibility of coin or other small objects working their way into the element ring around the door opening and shorting out the electric element. To replace the element or felt seal, the enitre cabinet had to be removed to access them - quite a pain. Maytag changed the design sometime in the mid-70's and although there were more user friendly improvements made, gone were the porcelain drums, the heavy steel drum support, etc. Plusses and minuses...
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Post# 23014-10/14/2002-07:59 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1955 AEG Lavalux (Must Have!!!!)
MESSAGE: Is the spare room full now?? ;-)
Someone should save that machine - it is pretty!
I guess it falls to you Mike!
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Post# 23015-10/14/2002-08:06 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: POD
MESSAGE: what year?
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Post# 23016-10/14/2002-08:15 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Agitators (new "
soap opera"
name)
MESSAGE: "As the wash turns", "days of our suds", "another cycle", "the young and the vintage", "all my laundry", "one spin to watch", "guiding ??"............(ok, i'm done, i know , i know, pretty lame, hehehe)
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Post# 23017-10/14/2002-08:16 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Agitators (Red(sound broken up))
MESSAGE: the sound cannot keep up with the video or actually, sorry, its the other way around..........
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Post# 23018-10/14/2002-08:19 ||| gregm (Worcester, Massachusetts)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Agitators (OR....)
MESSAGE: "Dirty Laundry" ........ (hehehe)
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Post# 23019-10/14/2002-08:43 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: MTM
MESSAGE: Speaking of the Beverly Hillbillies, does anyone know if the kitchen in Rob and Laura Petries (sp) had a dishwasher? Laura seemed to have upscale appliances, but I don't recall dishwasher or w/d(?)
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Post# 23020-10/14/2002-08:57 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Meet Wizard!
MESSAGE: Aww very cute kitten Jason, best of luck with Wizard.
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Post# 23021-10/14/2002-09:11 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Timeline question
MESSAGE: On my Norge Timeline washer you turn the knob clockwise 1/4 of a turn to release the lock and then you slide the knob to the point in the cycle you want, then you turn the knob back counterclockwise to start the washer.
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Post# 23022-10/14/2002-09:56 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (is it American?)
MESSAGE: ....and is it an American machine? That is the first time I've ever seen that. I did not know Thor ever offered a fully automatic machine. Do we know why it is called a "healing Thor"?
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Post# 23023-10/14/2002-10:57 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: MTM
MESSAGE: I don't think Laura Petrie ever had a dishwasher since there would have been no room in the kitchen for one - and she always seemed to be doing dishes by hand anyway. But then so did June Cleaver, Donna Stone, Alice Mitchell, Lucy Ricardo, Edith Bunker and Natalie Lane.
The only van Dyke episode where I even remember a hint of a washer is the one where they are remembering the birth of Richie while they were living in a different house. There was an appliance opposite the back door which you could only see in profile. Since it had a pile of clothes on it I assumed it to be a washer - but couldn't tell what kind. Maybe a Hotpoint which would have been proper since Mary started her career as the singing and dancing appliance elf "Happy Hotpoint"...........
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Post# 23024-10/14/2002-10:59 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (is it American?)
MESSAGE: I am guessing not American since they refer to the company as Healing Thor LTD. That usually is a British designation - - of course I could be wrong........
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Post# 23025-10/14/2002-11:12 ||| joeekaitis (Rialto, California, USA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (I'm guessing Australia or New Zealand)
MESSAGE: Aren't both of those nations separated into states, too?
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Post# 23026-10/14/2002-11:19 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire Electric Door Fridge in New Jersey
MESSAGE: If anyone is interested, there is a bottom freezer Frigidaire with the electric door (like the one in Jon's basement) for sale on Ebay.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2061784795
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Post# 23027-10/14/2002-11:24 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: What Washer Is This...????
MESSAGE: Hi Mike!
I use a halo of heat dryer quite a bit. I did change the limit thermostats for the machine to dry a little cooler than Maytag intended. Seems towels come out fluffier when dried with less heat for a little longer. I have lots of the model 806's and of course, they are all Halo of Heat. I changed the limit thermos from 160 to 140. And now that FSP offers the varriable temp thermostats, I even have a few of the dryers at 130. The thinking of the time was the dryer should be very hot so as to "iron" the clothes while in the dryer. This thinking, while great for polyesters and knits, was terrible for cottons and blends that wrinkled excessively. I don't really notice that much difference in the drying time when drying a little cooler either. (A load of towels in about 45 minutes) One problem with the HOH dryer is when drying large articles like a rug or a single sheet, it seemed to stick to the lint screen in the back of the drum because of the fan suction, and even scortch sometimes. With the heat reduced, I've never had this happen. They really are my favorite dryer design and I think that's why there's still lots of them around....and the electronic drying part of the system is very dependable and the dryer dries quite consistantly within the load. No damp spots! Mark
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Post# 23028-10/14/2002-11:51 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: 1955 AEG Lavalux (Must Have!!!!)
MESSAGE: LOL, no the spare room is not full yet, but the main reason is that there isn't a bed in it yet!
Since there is already a bid on it it's fortunately not going to the krusher.
Louis
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Post# 23029-10/14/2002-11:53 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: What Washer Is This...????
MESSAGE: I really like Greg's all button Maytag Halo of Heat dryer. You just push the button and everything comes out done perfectly!
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Post# 23030-10/14/2002-12:00 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: POD
MESSAGE: 1960
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Post# 23031-10/14/2002-12:46 ||| steved (Albany, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: MTM (I think.....)
MESSAGE: The Petries only had a dishwasher in the very first epsiodes, it was a Westinghouse top-load built in (like Greg Nunn's). I dont think that they showed it more than once or twice, before the apparently all gas kitchen came into use. SteveD
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Post# 23032-10/14/2002-14:55 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: Info On Westinghouse, Firgidaire, Electrolux etc...
MESSAGE: I have read here where some of you guys were interested in these companies and have dug up the info for you....AND....here it is! Hope you enjoy the reading. Mark
Westinghouse Household Appliances was sold to White Consolidated Industries in 1974.
In 1986, AB Electrolux, the world's top appliance maker, acquired White Consolidated Inc., with brands such as Frigidaire, Gibson, Tappan, Kelvinator, and White Westinghouse. Products included air conditioners, freezers, ovens, microwaves, refrigerators, washers, and dryers.Its Americold division made compressors for its own appliances as well as for other manufacturers. Frigidaire Home Products also included Poulan (chainsaws, blowers) and Weed Eater (lawn and garden equipment).The White Consolidated name was dropped in 2000.
White Consolidated Industries
18013-T Cleveland Pkwy., Suite 100
P.O. Box 35920
Cleveland, OH 44111-1601
Tel: 216-898-1800
Electrolux
www.electrolux.com
www.electrolux-usa.com
1-800-243-9078
email: customerservice@elux.com
The new Frigidaire Home Products was formed January 1, 1997 by uniting three sister companies in the White Consolidated Industries/AB Electrolux family -- American Yard Products, Frigidaire Company and Poulan/Weed