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Post# 24000-11/10/2002-10:20 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Bendix 36 Million? (from the book)
MESSAGE: Oh yeah - it was only $179.50!
(2190.62 in 2002)
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Post# 24001-11/10/2002-10:21 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 Classic Miele
MESSAGE: This is beautiful Louis - Miele certainly made a long lasting machine!
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Post# 24002-11/10/2002-10:23 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: KITCHENAID KDS-15 & KDS-18
MESSAGE: Thanks for the watchful eye out there - you never know when that dream machine is going to come along.
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Post# 24003-11/10/2002-10:31 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: New to group
MESSAGE: Hi and welcome - we have members all over the midwest, Ohio, Minnesota, Nebraska. I'll bet with some hunting in the Chicago area, you'll find some fantastic appliances. Lots of old homes with basements - are there Estate or Tag sales in your area?
Enjoy the club! Greg
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Post# 24004-11/10/2002-11:07 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Bendix 36 Million?
MESSAGE: Brent, aside from the fact that these machines didn't wassh all that well, here's a bit of trivia that I think I remember. These machines did last for a long time. GE kinda did a smear/fear marketing campaign in the late 50s telling people their front loaders were gonna break and flood everything/everywhere. Out of that campaign, a lot of people got rid of their Bendix machines for top loaders and were probably junked/scrapped.
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Post# 24005-11/10/2002-11:12 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Dryer on Ebay ((Hello Atlanta members or Steve 1-18!!!!!!))
MESSAGE: Y'all can't let this gem get loose can ya, Steve don't ya need another Whirlpool dryer? HQOTS???!!!???
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Post# 24006-11/10/2002-12:25 ||| chicapplis (chicago area)
SUBJECT: shipping costs
MESSAGE: has anyone had an experience with shipping a washer accross the country. Does UPS or FED-EX do that. and what about cost. I could understand a dishwasher or dryer but what about a washer with its loose innards. I mean unless you have an original shipping brace from the manufacturer how do you make sure it wouldn't damage the machine.
Thanks, Oh I was driving to pick up an 1978 almond kenmore dryer I bought and found a ,what I am estimating to be a, 1983 Imperial Kitchenaid Dishwasher just sitting at the curb, AND with the 1970's style wood insert front. Its like getting 3 for 1. :o}} I'm elated. (lol)
Steve,
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Post# 24007-11/10/2002-12:57 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: shipping costs (Welcome!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Steve, Welcome to the club!! You are going to enjoy this group a lot.
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Post# 24008-11/10/2002-13:03 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Dryer on Ebay (Whirlpool convertible-door dryer)
MESSAGE: There is one of these in John Lefever's warehouse. It opened down, but I couldn't get it to work sideways.
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Post# 24009-11/10/2002-13:37 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 Classic Miele (Thanks for the link Louis!)
MESSAGE: That is a cool looking machine. It looks like it is in great shape!
Was that a temp. display on the top of the machine by the dispenser?
That would be a cool machine to have.
Brent
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Post# 24010-11/10/2002-13:39 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Bendix 36 Million? (That makes more sense. Kinda.)
MESSAGE: Greg,
After I posted the post, I read it again, and it made the sense to me that you pointed out.
I agree about statistics back then. You could almost print anything and get away with whatever you wanted it seems.
Car ads were even worse.
Brent
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Post# 24011-11/10/2002-14:01 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: WHIRLPOOL GAS DRYER "2-SPEED, 5 TEMP?"
MESSAGE: Hello,
That is an interesting Whirlpool dryer that is on eBay.
I was wondering if that was a misprint, or is there a such thing as a 2-speed dryer?
If it is correct, what did it mean? I get the 5 temp part.
Brent
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Post# 24012-11/10/2002-14:53 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: 70's Frig. Up & Down Agitator Machine
MESSAGE: Strange, nothing!!.. Most of us are pining away for that machine. You are one lucky person!!
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Post# 24013-11/10/2002-15:12 ||| mulls (Johnson City,Tn)
SUBJECT: Gibson
MESSAGE: This ad from Tri Cities Tennessee Trading Post.I hope it is of interest to someone."1947 Gibson electric stove,3 elements,one deep well,storage drawer beside oven,white with chrome handles,very good condition,asking $200.276-645-0533".This sounds like a killer for someone doing a kitchen.
Tom
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Post# 24014-11/10/2002-15:15 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 Classic Miele (Thanks for the link Louis!)
MESSAGE: Yes, it indeed looks in great shape, there was only a broken relay inside the machine according to the text. The only thing I see on top is the plug (the white round thing behind the dispenser). It would be indeed a nice machine to have, but overhere hardly anyone has 380/400 Volts at home. Besides that these first frontloaders were extremely heavy, it must be around 150kg (around 330lbs).
Louis
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Post# 24015-11/10/2002-15:35 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: New to group (welcome)
MESSAGE: Welcome !! :) ......
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Post# 24016-11/10/2002-15:38 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: shipping costs (KA DW)
MESSAGE: I love the Kitchen Aid DW's Steve, but only the pre, I believe 1986 ones, the ones that were still "made by Hobart" as they usually say on the front...........congrads on your find.....
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Post# 24017-11/10/2002-16:21 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: WHIRLPOOL GAS DRYER "2-SPEED, 5 TEMP?" (Whirlpool dryer speeds)
MESSAGE: Two situations come into play:
1. Two drying speeds -- as in how fast moisture is removed from the clothing. The speeds were generally referred to as "Super" and "Gentle." Super was 'regular' speed, Gentle was slower. Changing the speed involved physically shifting the belt on a two-speed blower pulley (smaller and larger diameter sections) -- and may also have involved reducing the heat output by way of a two-stage heating element or gas burner. This is likely what "2-speed" means in that eBay ad. The speed control was a rotary dial on the panel, with "Super" sometimes indicated by a neon light.
2. Two or three tumble tumble speeds. I think three speeds was the initial offering, I don't know in what year. Then it was reduced to two speeds, then the feature was dropped completely. This involved a cone-shaped motor pulley, and physically shifting the drum belt along it for slower or faster tumble speeds. The speed control was a two- or three-position lever on the far right side of the control panel.
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Post# 24018-11/10/2002-18:19 ||| chicapplis (chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: shipping costs (KA DW)
MESSAGE: Thanks. At some point, in the 90's, whirlpool, which I'm not sure when they bought the KithenAid label, "canceled" the good dishwashers and stuck that name on their chincey (did I spell that right) Whirlpools, I mean come on !! It had to be the appliance crime of the decade. ugh.
A friend of mine remodeled his kitchen in about 1995 and put in a Superba. When the thing was running I thought there was something wrong with it. It was sooo quiet, I was resold on something I had high esteem for already. Then he built a house in 1999 and we went shopping, for both of us. He bought another Superba in Almond and I bought the cheapest model, also in almond. It was a disappointment. That stainless steel tub just seems so dark and I don't think it helps to quiet the machine. They also stole the quad wash arm I'm sure to make it "look" like a Kitchenaid. We returned them and bought him a Kenmore made by Whirlpool, with a plastic tub, It was slightly quieter but he returned that as well. Then a salesperson showed us Frigidaire one of their computer controled models. We both bought the same model. They are so quiet and versatile-you can wash just one rack instead of both. And the front is all one piece. They clean really well too. Sorry KitchenAid, Really.
Please, let us all bow our heads for a moment of silence.
... ... Fortunately, I feel I am amongst those who will understand my concerns.
May positive thoughts be with us
Steve
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Post# 24019-11/10/2002-18:21 ||| chicapplis (chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: shipping costs (KA DW)
MESSAGE: what was the difference between pre and post 1986 KitchenAids.
Steve
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Post# 24020-11/10/2002-18:46 ||| chicapplis (chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: WHIRLPOOL GAS DRYER "2-SPEED, 5 TEMP?" (I've seen one)
MESSAGE: My Aunt had one, it was white, and had one of those consoles that was larger on the far left third. I think it had a flourescent section in the console as well. I remember it had a 2 speed switch, but I didn't know what it did. Also, the lint filter was short, maybe 12" long and if you pulled it out when the machine was running the machine would blow exhaust all over the top.
Steve
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Post# 24021-11/10/2002-20:12 ||| Joshie (Arizona)
SUBJECT: New Maytag Atlantis
MESSAGE: Hi. Has anyone seen the brand new Maytag Atlantis? Just saw one on Saturday. Switches are now rotary with somewhat of a 'retro' look! And the medallion is very art deco! Joshie
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Post# 24022-11/10/2002-20:23 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: shipping costs (KA DWpre'86)
MESSAGE: pre 1986 were made by HOBART, not Whirlpool
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Post# 24023-11/10/2002-20:25 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: Whirlpool top removal lint filters
MESSAGE: I have never liked the placement of Whirlpool made dryers lint filters, always musses up the top of the machine..........
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Post# 24024-11/10/2002-21:28 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool top removal lint filters
MESSAGE: Greg, some of the more recent upper end Sears dryers have gone to having the lint filter inside the front door, and the drum/door is also mounted higher up within the cabinet, making it a more convenient machine to use all around. If they have done this to any of the Whirlpool-branded units, I have not seen them. I kind of wish they would offer that two way door again, it would be the best of both worlds. I have always liked the drop down door, but the new large capacity machines are so deep, I can see where a shorter person or person with shorter arms might have difficulty.
Whirlpool bought the KitchenAid brand in 1986, however they continued manufacturing the dishwashers in the Hobart style until about 1996. They were great machines, but I kind of wonder even if they had lasted past '96, if they would have survived this current stainless steel talltub craze.
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Post# 24025-11/10/2002-21:52 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New to group
MESSAGE: Welcome Steve. A great profile. Finally, other than JasonL, another guy who likes harvest gold & Coffee appliances as well as the unique Sand and Pewter colors from the 80s. I think you'll enjoy all of us here.
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Post# 24026-11/10/2002-21:54 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New Maytag Atlantis
MESSAGE: Joshie, a sad day in applianceville. Maytag was the last of the machines with "push buttons". I'd rather have some buttons to push than just knobs to grab all the time.
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Post# 24027-11/10/2002-22:05 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool top removal lint filters
MESSAGE: Scott, Whirlpool does offer the inside lint filter in its upper end dryers too. As far as post Whirlpool acquisition KA dishwashers, John LeFever says that the last of the "Hobart" style included the Whirlpool designed "Power-Clean_ mechanism and John says it was the beset-cleaning KA dishwasher made. I imagine this cleaning system survived in the KD24 & KD25 SS interior series, but I don't know that for sure. I personally believe the old "Hobart" style racks held more than today's style racks too.
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Post# 24028-11/10/2002-22:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool top removal lint filters
MESSAGE: I had one of the first WP-pump Kitchen Aid dishwasher in my condo before we bought this house. That was the best dishwasher I'd ever owned it was quiet, fast and the most solily built dishwasher on the market when I bought it in 1995. My only regret is not replacing with a $128 Hotpoint and bringing that KA to the new house.
Another appliance regret! On the bright side, I was hunting for a place in the basement for my newly aquired KDS-17 to find a home.
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Post# 24029-11/10/2002-22:37 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool top removal lint filters
MESSAGE: ...and I loved the enclosed upper wash arm too! The 1996 model I had was just fantastic. So quiet, well made, and easy to load.
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Post# 24030-11/10/2002-22:39 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool top removal lint filters
MESSAGE: ..oh and the hidden heating element!
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Post# 24031-11/10/2002-22:44 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: shipping costs (KA DWpre'86)
MESSAGE: My 1992 Superba still has the "classic" KA control panel. Four-way lower arm, flow-through drying (although at reduced wattage), circular water heating element in the sump area. Lower rack has plates on the left side instead of the center, full-width silver basket on the front. Upper rack is the classic tilt kind with adjustable tines, but with upper wash arm. Alas, no Constant Rinse. :-/
Oh, and the motor does reverse.
It never occurred to me when I bought it that it isn't a true Hobart, but I suppose it's not.
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Post# 24032-11/11/2002-00:47 ||| chicapplis (chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: New Maytag Atlantis (speaking of buttons...)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the Welcome, Appnut and everyone else.
I was wondering does anyone remember on the Beverly Hillbillies they had a Maytag washer and dryer in the backhall from the kitchen. I think they were pink (or whatever the proper name for that color was). Anyway, they didn't have a knob, they just had buttons, of which, I assume was somekind of auto advancing mechanical timer. I don't think I have ever seen that on any other brand and I wonder how reliable they were and what the years were that they made them. Did they make them into the 70's, for example.
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Post# 24033-11/11/2002-01:41 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: New Maytag Atlantis (speaking of buttons...)
MESSAGE: Yup, always got a thrill when that pair was in a scene. I think Maytag did carry the pushbutton models into the 1970s, one of the experts around here can provide details/corrections.
KitchenAid had a pushbutton rapid-advance timer as well, in the 1980s. KA's first two washer offerings were a fully-electronic model, and the pushbutton mechanical-timer model.
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Post# 24034-11/11/2002-06:58 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: WHIRLPOOL IMPERIAL 2 SPEED 5 TEMP DRYER
MESSAGE: I own one. Mine is pink and has a window in it. It's a 1963, and I use it regularly. I completely rebuilt the thing about 6 years ago, including new belts, new seals, new blower and rear drum bearings, new light bulbs, etc. I have many photo's of the machine, but I'm sure most of you are already tired of seeing them. Anyone who would like to see any part of the machine, just ask and I'll be glad to take the photo of that part just for you.
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Post# 24035-11/11/2002-07:15 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: PUSHBUTTON MAYTAG A 906 Washing Machine
MESSAGE: Yes. Granny enjoyed a top of the line pair of Maytags, with all pushbutton controls. The washer used the button to make the selections, and used electro-mechanical means to accomplish this. In other words, there were NOT electronics, but there were switches and motors and timers behind the control panel, and the thing was more like a juke box (of the same period)than a computer controlled device such as we have become accostomed to today.
I owned a lovely sunshine yellow 1967 Maytag A906, which I lovingly rebuilt and sold to our own Lightedcontrols man, Mark Hardman-Buseman, years ago, the same time that I sold him my FRIGIDAIRE WCI59 turquoise porcelain washer & dryer pair. It was a happy day for both of us, and the beginning of what has turned out to be a swell friendship, and I do mean that sincerely.
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Post# 24036-11/11/2002-08:27 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: PUSHBUTTON MAYTAG A 906 Washing Machine (Granny's Maytags)
MESSAGE: In the first season of "Beverly Hillbillies' when the show was in black & white, Granny's Maytags did not match. One of the pair, I think it was the washer, had a rotary dial on the back panel which looked suspiciously like an early Maytag coin-op machine. It wasn't until season 2 or 3 that this machine was replaced with the one that matched the model with the long time-line looking control.
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Post# 24037-11/11/2002-09:28 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New Maytag Atlantis (speaking of buttons...)
MESSAGE: Greg (Gansky) has a set of these machines, I think he said from 1967. His have the newer control panel that came out around then, whereas Granny's had the previous style control panel I believe.
They are neat machines with the rapid advance timer and beautifully backlit control panels, and with the dryer, you just pop in the clothes, hit a button and they dry gently and come out beautifully. The only slight disadvantage in the "real world" with the washer would be that there are only two water levels, and certain cycles only let you use full fill. Other than that, they work great and are of course very convenient to use.
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Post# 24038-11/11/2002-10:07 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Bendix dryer temp limits
MESSAGE: Any one have the temperature limits for the thermostats in the dryer heating element box and the hi-limit thermostat in the blower housing? 1952 Bendix dryer doesn't seem to want to cut the heat...
-ph
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Post# 24039-11/11/2002-10:19 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: shipping costs (Craters & Freighters)
MESSAGE: Welcome!
Several of us have used Crater & Freighters to ship machines. If they have an office in your area, they will come to your home, pack it up very securely, and ship to the destination. It can be quite expensive, but it's all relative to the machine being sent/rec'd. Mail Box Etc will also do packing and shipping, but you have to bring it to them. The machines that I have rec'd have not been cross-braced or bolted and arrived just fine.
-ph
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Post# 24040-11/11/2002-10:22 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: 70's Frig. Up & Down Agitator Machine
MESSAGE: $50-$100. There are still many of these Frigidaire 1-18 around, altho' parts are getting scarce. Check the top right of the control panel and let us know what model number you have. I may be in Syracuse over either Thanksgiving or Christmas...
-ph
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Post# 24041-11/11/2002-10:24 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: "Blue" commercial
MESSAGE: GE monitor top refrigerator in the first sceen (1940's).
Stove with round oven window in the second (1950's?).
KA dishwasher in the 70's sceen.
-ph
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Post# 24042-11/11/2002-10:26 ||| chicapplis (chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: New Maytag Atlantis (TV trivia)
MESSAGE: Wow, I am sooo impressed. You guys are so knowledgable. I thought I was the only one who noticed these tv details. I am obviously in good company.
So Ok, heres some TV trivia:
1. On the Bradybunch, what brand washer/dryer did they have and what color was it?
2. Did the Golden Girls have a dishwasher and if so what brand was it?
3. On Dallas what brand refrigerator did Southfork have, what type of frig was it, and what was unusual about the situation?
4. I don't know if anyone remembers a show called Don't eat the daisies. I hardly remember it myself, but I do remember the type of washer they had. Do you remember what brand it was, what color it was and where it was located in the house?
and finally
5. In the first couple of seasons of KnotsLanding what brand vacuum cleaner did Karan and Sid have, and what style was it?
To all knowledgable contestants the 6th E-mailer to get at least one correct answer right wins 1000 Applianceville dollars. The 8th E-mailer to get all the answers correct wins the GRAND PRIZE -a TRIP, yes thats right a trip to Sams club to buy me a bottle of Downy April Fresh scent and some sugar cookies.(lol)
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Post# 24043-11/11/2002-10:26 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Dryer on Ebay (Hello Atlanta members)
MESSAGE: I sho' don't need me another dryer up in this here trailer!
-ph
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Post# 24044-11/11/2002-10:28 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: WHIRLPOOL GAS DRYER "2-SPEED, 5 TEMP?" (2 FAN speeds)
MESSAGE: There's a pulley on the fan to slow down the air flow. This dryer does not tumble at different speeds.
-ph
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Post# 24045-11/11/2002-10:29 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: WHIRLPOOL GAS DRYER "2-SPEED, 5 TEMP?" (Whirlpool dryer speeds)
MESSAGE: Yeah, what Glenn says!
-ph
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Post# 24046-11/11/2002-10:33 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool top removal lint filters
MESSAGE: One of the charms of owning a WP/KM dryer is cleaning the lint filter, then blowing or brushing off the lint on the dryer top with your hands! It's kinda like having to load a Frigidaire in quadrants; just one of those things you have to do!
-ph
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Post# 24047-11/11/2002-12:01 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: PUSHBUTTON MAYTAG A 906 Washing Machine (and Jukeboxes)
MESSAGE: Didn't Seeburg (jukebox maker) design some of the electromechanical parts for those pushbutton machines like the 906 and the 59 Lady Kenmore? I thought I saw that somewhere.
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Post# 24048-11/11/2002-12:22 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: New to group (Welcome )
MESSAGE: Welcome to this Great club
Peter
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Post# 24049-11/11/2002-13:47 ||| todde (longbeach, IN)
SUBJECT: RE: New Maytag Atlantis (TV trivia)
MESSAGE: 1. Very easy, avocado whirlpol set, who can forget Bobby washing his suit or Alice and Carol's wash off with Best detergent, wait was the other detergent in the wash-off?
2. It was a GE and I hope she had NBC replace the fire hazard of a machine.
3. I will have to say sub-zero side by side and they had 2 of them?
4. Ah, Mrs. Nash had a set of harvest gold Maytags with the lighted console in the basement. They were located by their monster of a furnace and Martha the maid had to be shown how to operate the washer.
5. A hoover upright.
Here's the real BONUS question Hazel was on for 5 seasons and went through 5 sets of appliances (that maid sure was hard on them) some were the same brand the following season but the color was changed. Can you do the appliances or at least color's in order from season one thru five?
Super Bonus?
On the late 60's movie Yours, Mine, and Ours with Lucille Ball and Henry Fonda what type of washer did she have and what was unusual about her laundry set-up. Also what detergent did she buy by the cart full?
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Post# 24050-11/11/2002-14:39 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: WHIRLPOOL GAS DRYER "2-SPEED, 5 TEMP?" (Whirlpool dryer speeds)
MESSAGE: If you click the link you will see my 1967 Turquaz(HAHA) Mark XII.
The two speed on this year actuated a baffle in the lint duct that restricted air flow and also switched the heating element to the low wattage side only. They did away with the true speed selector because of too many problems.
LINK: http://www.classicappliances.com/MUSEUM/Whirlpool/Museum-Whirlpool.htm
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Post# 24051-11/11/2002-14:46 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: My Toys
MESSAGE: How y'all durrin? I gots me one of them warshers that has that up-n-down type thang in the middle. I be likin it a lot, but it don't have a Wig cycle so I still can't warsh all my wigs in it. If I do they all get tangle together and it be a mess.
So if you want to see them click the link and then click on Favorite Things. That will brang you to some piktures of some of the stuffs I haves up in this hea trailor.
(I really don't think I need any more coffee today. Elevenseventytwo cups are enough)
LINK: http://bellsouthpwp.net/d/u/dumontj/
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Post# 24052-11/11/2002-17:05 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: New Maytag Atlantis (TV trivia)
MESSAGE: Well, I will take a shot at the bonuses:
1) I think Hazel started with a Bendix Duomatic, then went to the top loading Philco Bendix matched set. Later on when she went to work for the other Mr. Baxter - Mr Steve (Ray Fulmer) and Missy #2 (Lynn Borden) they went for the push button Maytags. I cannot do the colors because we had black and white TV when I was growing up.
2) In the movie Yours, Mine and Ours, Lucille Ball had turquoise Maytags in her basement. What made it unusual was that she had a few washers and a few dryers (at least 2 of each. But with 18 kids and a few in cloth diapers combined with the small capacity of Maytags, she needed all she could get. And speaking of All, that would have been the detergent that filled her shopping cart. Yes, jumbo size boxes of Active All. I particularly liked the laundry chute going down to the basement. Did you note though in the scene where she is actually doing laundry, she is pouring "Fluffy All" (from the red box) into the machine??
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Post# 24053-11/11/2002-17:07 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix dryer temp limits
MESSAGE: Hi Peter - check on the thermostats themselves - there should be a number stamped on it like 139, 155, 190. This is the cutoff temp of the thermostat. I think the operating temp for this dryer is like 150-155.
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Post# 24054-11/11/2002-17:10 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: Whirlpool Direct Drive (1 speed motor -> 2 speed?)
MESSAGE: Hi all,
Took in a nice direct drive washer but i found out the gentle speed wasn't workin, replaced the timer, still didn't work and then i noticed somebody swapped motors on me, the motor doesn't have a plugin for the orange wire thats hot when the machines supposed to be in slow mode, so my question is, is there anyway to make a one speed motor a two speed or do i have to just get a new motor, god i hate it when i put more into a machine than its worth!!
~Steven
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Post# 24055-11/11/2002-17:18 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: WHIRLPOOL GAS DRYER "2-SPEED, 5 TEMP?" (2 FAN speeds)
MESSAGE: The gas model operates at 30,000 BTU in "super" speed selection and 20,000 BTU in "gentle." In electric models, the heater runs at 5600 watts on super and 4600 on gentle. The fan still ran at the same speed in this model (although other models were different) but airflow was lowered in the gentle selection by a damper above the blower inside the exhaust air duct.
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Post# 24056-11/11/2002-17:21 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: WHIRLPOOL GAS DRYER "2-SPEED, 5 TEMP?" (Whirlpool dryer speeds)
MESSAGE: Some 1972 Whirlpool dryers had a "three speed" selector which used a shifter fork assembly to resposition the drive belt on a tapered pulley. Delicate or Small load setting was 44 rpm, Medium setting was 49 rpm and Heavy Load setting was 55 rpms.
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Post# 24057-11/11/2002-17:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool top removal lint filters
MESSAGE: One benefit of the large/super capacity machines with the top-mounted lint filter is that these have a 29" cabinet where the newer, front-mounted filters are in a 27" cabinet. The larger cabinet has a larger drum diameter which might help slightly with larger items and wrinkling. If you pull the filter out while the dryer is running, much of the lint will get sucked back into the air duct. This won't work on older style models that blow through the filter.
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Post# 24058-11/11/2002-17:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: My Toys
MESSAGE: Hi Jason - you might want to invest in some natural hair wigs, those poly ones never last!
Your pictures are great!
Greg
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Post# 24059-11/11/2002-17:32 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: Classic Movies and Classic Appliances......
MESSAGE: To Everyone:
As everyone may know by now, as much as I have a love for classic appliances and so forth, my true love remains high fidelity audio and home theater. And as such, then I have a couple interesting questions I would like to ask any of you.
(01). Recently, I have bought the James Bond "007" Series on DVD (which consists of the following movies...... "Dr. No -- 1962", "Goldfinger -- 1964", "The Man With The Golden Gun -- 1974", "The Spy Who Loved Me -- 1977", "License To Kill -- 1989", "Goldeneye -- 1995", and "You Only Live Twice -- 1997"), and I have already viewed "Dr No" and "Goldfinger". Now, when I looked at the first two movies in my "007" DVD set, I did not recall seeing any classic appliances in those movies. But now, I have previewed "The Man With The Golden Gun" about two days ago or so, and in that movie, I believe there were appliances being shown in a segment of it. What I saw were two "high-end" built-in ovens (well...... I thought they were considered "high-end" at the time) flanking a fancy "high-end" kitchen. I may have saw a "stainless steel" refrigerator as well (and if that was the case, then gee...... I didn't know that stainless steel was in vogue in the early 1970's). But now, I am sure of this. What I saw in the adjoining room during the same sequence in the film was a Westinghouse Tumble Action Washer and Matching Dryer (which I knew they were in fact making in the 1970's..... afterwards....... I have put my DVD Player on pause, zoomed it up to about the second level, and then ran the scene at "one-half" speed going either forwards or backwards in order to get a good view of what that machine really looked like without "Tattoo" of "Fantasy Island" standing in the way all of the time). And what I want to know now from any of you is, did any of you consider the Westinghouse Washer a good washer back in the 1970s????
(02). And if a movie is supposed to be of "high-end", "high-tech" aspirations like the "Bond" movies always tend to be, then why didn't they use Mieles instead of Westinghouses (not that I have anything against Westinghouse)???
(03). I believe if these washers were still being manufactured today, then I believe they would retail for anywhere from $600.00 to about $950.00 (depending on model and features). How much did these washers retailed for back in the 1970's??? If I could recall correctly, the one that the late Pearl Bailey was advertising has retailed for about $450.00 to about $550.00 or so (and I think this was in 1977, I believe).
(04). And lastly, if any of you have seen any classic movies (not shows like Beverly Hillbillies, I Love Lucy, Bewitched, and the Brady Bunch, and so forth. I already know about those shows) at all that has anything in them that resembles classic appliances as well???
I am going to stop now....... but I eagerly await responses that may come my way later on.
Later and Regards to All:
--Charles--
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Post# 24060-11/11/2002-17:36 ||| todde (longbeach, IN)
SUBJECT: RE: New Maytag Atlantis (TV trivia)
MESSAGE: Good job Angus! Hazel's color scheme was the following. I'm sure on the washer brands as you stated, not quite certain on the other appliance brands, though.
Season 1, appliances were a sunny yellow, the fridge and stove looked like from late 50's sort of I love Lucy.
Season 2, Mr. B bought her brand new appliances in turquoise including the matching Bendix set. The fridge was a bottom mount freezer. I'd guess probably Frigidaire, as was the range.
Season 3, For some reason the appliances were all the same type only the color of them changed to coppertone, with no mention.
Season 4, In episode #110 the storyline centered around Hazel trying to get Mr. B to remodel. The fridge was still a bottom mount, but the stove was now counter top, with a wall oven. The dishwasher had one large rotary dial. Maybe at this time the appliances could have been Hotpoint. The color was now sort of a yellow, not a bright one as in season one but not a harvest gold, maybe just gold. Was that a color at the time?
Season 5, She goes to work for his brother in an entirely different house and her appliances in that house are coppertone, with the wonderful Maytag push buttons, and a top mount fridge.
As for Lucy and the All detergent, If I remember correctly All was always a big sponser of Here's Lucy.
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Post# 24061-11/11/2002-17:52 ||| chicapplis (chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: My Toys (awesom collection)
MESSAGE: Wow, your collection is like a dream come true. excellent set up too. And that Kenmore black computer controlled. I had that set once for a short period of time. paid like $599 for the washer and $499 for the electric dryer. They were black and I thought is was so sleek with that 3/8" chrome tape around the top edge. Unfortunately was too neive to appreciate what I had and sold them. I didn't know that 86' was the last year for the belt drive. Thanks for that tidbit. The dispensall was so cool. It fit flush and would handle anything. Especially with the new liguid detergent insert, if that was what you preferred to use. I want get a set like the one you have with the dispensall but with the mechanical timer. Excellent. Excellent. I don't travel alot but for this kind of stuff I will.
Sigh. (catch my breath)
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Post# 24062-11/11/2002-18:47 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: My Toys (TRAILOR TRAYSH (joking, of course))
MESSAGE: You makin funna me city boy? My Friggy-More can beat up that there Pulserator you got in yer garage along with that Sissy Jap bike you ridin' on. My Harley eats them things for breakfast.
BTW, Cool 1-18 and awesome bike. Ride on!
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Post# 24063-11/11/2002-18:48 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Movies and Classic Appliances...... ( Attn: ChaskellJr2 - WIDESCREEN HIGH DEFINITION & vintage front loaders)
MESSAGE: ChaskellJr2 - Did you make it to the recent appliance convention? I'm in Arlington, easy to find near 395 and Glebe road, and feature several vintage appliances as well as 16:9 HDTV with Direct TV and DVD, naturally...However, your email is not correct any longer in the profiles of this site, as I have tried to reach via email already. Contrary to what many here may think, I do not bight, unless asked, and enjoy spending time with friends.
My email is robert.wirth2@verizon.net
BEST WISHES.
BOB
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Post# 24064-11/11/2002-18:49 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Movies and Classic Appliances...... (Cost of Living then and now)
MESSAGE: Hi Charles - the link is to a cost of living calculator, it's fun to plug in some of the prices of the now-vintage appliance costs and see the result in today's dollars. The technology really hasn't changed all that much over the years (they just add less water now) but the comparative cost has come way down. The 1978 Montgomery Wards tumble action washers retailed for an average of $450. (in harvest gold, of course) In today's dollars it would be $1200.
LINK: http://www.aier.org/cgi-bin/colcalculator.cgi
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Post# 24065-11/11/2002-19:47 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: WHIRLPOOL GAS DRYER "2-SPEED, 5 TEMP?" (Very Interesting Greg about the BTU's)
MESSAGE: Greg,
That is so interesting. Gee, 30,000 BTU's? That is lot's of heat.
Do you know how it was able to kick down to a lower btu in the "second speed"? I am just by guessing that it used the pin in the gas output like the combos? I think that John talked about how the pin would push out as the temp of the inside of the drum become hotter, causing the burner to have less of a flame. I am very interested on how this was done.
Thanks for all of your knowledge.
Brent
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Post# 24066-11/11/2002-20:28 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: JASONL'S VIDEO - FULL LENGTH VERSION - NOW AVAILABLE HERE!
MESSAGE: Now available for your downloading and viewing delight, The Fabulous JasonL's Convention Video - Full length version, featuring extended scenes and never before seen footage.
20 megs in size. Works fine with broadband, but may require a full download before playing with dialup connections.
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/convention.wmv
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Post# 24067-11/11/2002-20:37 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: WHIRLPOOL GAS DRYER "2-SPEED, 5 TEMP?" (Very Interesting Greg about the BTU's)
MESSAGE: It was a needle/pin orifice controlled by a solenoid. When set for heavy-high the solenoid would be energized and pull a pin allowing 30,000 BTU of gas to flow through. This is quite a nice dryer actually - fully featured and fabulous color - I don't think you should let this one slip away!
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Post# 24068-11/11/2002-20:54 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: JASONL'S VIDEO - FULL LENGTH VERSION - NOW AVAILABLE HERE!
MESSAGE: Amazing - you did a wonderful job! Thanks for all the hard work!
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Post# 24069-11/11/2002-20:58 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: JASONL'S VIDEO - FULL LENGTH VERSION - NOW AVAILABLE HERE!
MESSAGE: What a great video!!! Makes me sad that I missed all of the fun ... BUT, I do look forward to being there next year with all of you guys. This video combined my two favorites ... vintage washers and men! Jason, you are a master when it comes to the videos and computers. Thanks for sharing!!!!!\
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Post# 24070-11/11/2002-21:04 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: My Toys (Beautiful 1-18)
MESSAGE: HQOTS nice pair of 1-18's! The washer looks like its humming along!
jet
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Post# 24071-11/11/2002-21:05 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix dryer temp limits (My GE Combo...)
MESSAGE: My Combo reads 275 degrees!!! That is way hot! And it gets that hot ask gregm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post# 24072-11/11/2002-21:25 ||| chicapplis (chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: JASONL'S VIDEO - FULL LENGTH VERSION - NOW AVAILABLE HERE! (how do I get tickets to the next one)
MESSAGE: Wow, kudos on your production. Sign me up for next time.
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Post# 24073-11/11/2002-21:32 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: JASONL'S VIDEO - FULL LENGTH VERSION - NOW AVAILABLE HERE! (AMAZING!)
MESSAGE: I HAVE NEVER SEEN SUCH COOL FOOTAGE OF WASHING MACHINES IN MY LIFE! I HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO EXPLAIN THE ANGLES AND WHAT CYCLES I WANT TO SEE, BUT GUESSED RIGHT IN THE MONEY!
Best Washes
-Jamie-
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Post# 24074-11/11/2002-21:37 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: JASONL'S VIDEO - FULL LENGTH VERSION - NOW AVAILABLE HERE!
MESSAGE: Todd, if you want to do another "Land Of Rust" wash-in, I'll bring the video and you can watch on the big screen. It's awesome.
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Post# 24075-11/11/2002-21:37 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: My Toys
MESSAGE: Jason, I love the new house. The pictures are terrific. However, can we see what the rest of the kitchen looks like too??? (And any other appliances you might have stached somewhere else?)
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Post# 24076-11/11/2002-21:41 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix dryer temp limits (My GE Combo...)
MESSAGE: Does your combo have the "drip dry" setting? I always found this amusing!
Even at 275, how long does it take to dry a load in the combo? Does the automatic cycle work well?
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Post# 24077-11/11/2002-21:41 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix dryer temp limits (My GE Combo...YUP!)
MESSAGE: it gets hot, hot, hot........ :) ........
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Post# 24078-11/11/2002-21:42 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix dryer temp limits (My GE Combo...auto works)
MESSAGE: I thought the auto setting worked well, takes an hour + to dry the average load, obviously Jon will know better.
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Post# 24079-11/11/2002-21:52 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New Maytag Atlantis (speaking of buttons...)
MESSAGE: Steve, the 1959 LK top load washer had an all-button rapid advance type of timer scenario too. Then there was the Hotpoint Touch Command washer & dryer with the same arrangement. This set had lights that glowed when it was wash, rinse, spin cyclews for washer & drying and cool down for the dryer. Westinghouse front loader in 1958 or 1959 had all-button system too. Plus what Glenn said about the 1980s KA Superba Selectra Washer & Dryer. Off the top of my head, I can't think of any other machines that had a rapid advance type of timer arrangement, but there may be others.
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Post# 24080-11/11/2002-21:55 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: PUSHBUTTON MAYTAG A 906 Washing Machine (Granny's Maytags)
MESSAGE: Les, contrary to what you might think, those were a "matched" set of Maytags. The electronic controlled sensor dryer back then had the "dummy" dial with 4-pushbuttons and earlier versions, may have still been used on the set though, had the rotary dial with both timed settings & the auto dry settings. I don't believe until the new control panel arrangement in either 1966 or 1967, when the 906 arived, did they have a dryer with all-buttons that was the cosmetically matched panel to the washer.
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Post# 24081-11/11/2002-22:00 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: POD 11/11/2002 Westinghouse Laundromat
MESSAGE: Just goes to show ya, doing laundry is child's play!!!!
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Post# 24082-11/11/2002-22:00 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: New Maytag Atlantis (speaking of buttons...)
MESSAGE: 1979 Frigidaire 1-18
The Holy Grail of 1-18's!!!!
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Post# 24083-11/11/2002-22:06 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: PUSHBUTTON MAYTAG A 906 Washing Machine (Granny's Maytags)
MESSAGE: There was an all button dryer to match the button washer in like 1964-65. It was only around a short time before the panel design change in the '06 models in '67.
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Post# 24084-11/11/2002-22:08 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: JASONL'S VIDEO - FULL LENGTH VERSION - NOW AVAILABLE HERE! (FULL LENGTH VERSION)
MESSAGE: This is a real great video
Thanks much for a more detailed version
Peter
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Post# 24085-11/11/2002-22:14 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: JASONL'S VIDEO - FULL LENGTH VERSION - NOW AVAILABLE HERE!
MESSAGE: Jason, We do need to get together for another wash-in. We just moved to the new house 2 months ago and I still have to do some plumbing work to get the other machine (Frigidaire) hooked back up. Have to work in Houston for a couple of weekends (in order to renew my nursing license in Texas), but will call you soon to set up a date. My parents are even on the lookout for "vintage" machines at their weekend garage sales and flea markets.
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Post# 24086-11/11/2002-22:48 ||| chicapplis (chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: New Maytag Atlantis (1-18 ?)
MESSAGE: I have seen this alot. What is 1-18 refer to . I am not real familiar with fridgidaire washers other than that they had an up and down agitator.
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Post# 24087-11/11/2002-23:26 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: New Maytag Atlantis (1-18 ?)
MESSAGE: The "1-18" designation refers to the machine's ability to handle loads ranging from 1 pound to 18 pounds.
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Post# 24088-11/11/2002-23:35 ||| Dick_S. (Palm Springs vicinity)
SUBJECT: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18
MESSAGE: I should have it running within the next couple of weeks. I'm real excited,
guys,
as this is my first Frigidaire, and I've wanted one for years. And thanks to
Applicanceville.com, a couple of months I was recharged and encouraged to
start my search. Can't believe my luck in that I found one so quickly and
subsequently also all the parts it needed.
LINK: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~stmpstrt55/washer.htm
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Post# 24089-11/12/2002-00:36 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18
MESSAGE: Dick S, I think it's outstanding that one's dream is able to be accomplished so quickly. I'm glad this sight was an impetus to your search and support thereof. You and the machine are a handome couple!!! Just remember in your excitement and for your safety, to collect dirty laundry out of the hamper and not throw yourself in with clothes on too. I know it's difficult to contain oneself when around a Frigidaire pulsating away, but we must restrain ourselves for safety sake (although I have placed my hand at the bottom of a tub while the machine is agitating away (near the nergy ring) and no a hurt finger whatsoever). Love that live water action!!!!!.
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Post# 24090-11/12/2002-00:39 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New Maytag Atlantis (1-18 ?)
MESSAGE: Steve (chicapplis) see Dick S's subsequent post & link of photos of his beautiful poppy red Frigidaire 1-18 washer. This was the last of GM Frigidaire's machines. The 1-18 was Frigidaire's only non-solid-tub washer. It had the largest capacity of any frigidaire waasher and offered multiple water level setting as opposed to two for prior solid-tub machines.
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Post# 24091-11/12/2002-03:28 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: JASONL'S VIDEO - FULL LENGTH VERSION - NOW AVAILABLE HERE!
MESSAGE: Cooooooooolll video!!!
Thank you Jason!
Louis
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Post# 24092-11/12/2002-06:56 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: Machines arriving tomorrow from Canada
MESSAGE: It took nearly two weeks from Canada to sunny southern California but my machines arrive tomorrow....1947 Bendix white round front loader and Maytag wringer washer...I have been saving up dirty laundry...cant wait to get them here and washing away....will post pictures eventually....also waiting for Westinghouse slant front but that hasnt even left Georgia for its new home in southern California.....shipping process takes a while I guess
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Post# 24093-11/12/2002-07:07 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: POD Speed Wash
MESSAGE: Are those Frigidaire washers?
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Post# 24094-11/12/2002-07:14 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18 (congrads)
MESSAGE: Dick, what a great find, I love the color........it washes better if you don't overload it, like any machine really, good luck with it and have fun :-)
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Post# 24095-11/12/2002-07:23 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18
MESSAGE: Great pictures - looks like a lot of work, but it will be worth it to have this washer like new again! Best of luck and thanks for sharing your fun pictures.
Greg
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Post# 24096-11/12/2002-07:24 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Machines arriving tomorrow from Canada
MESSAGE: I know how you feel - the waiting is nearly unbearable. Good luck with your new machines!
Greg
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Post# 24097-11/12/2002-07:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Speed Wash (Speed Queen)
MESSAGE: Speed Queen - around 1954 or so. I have a 1954 Speed Queen washer and dryer in my collection so I recognized that emblem on front!
Fantastic POD!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Collection+Photos&.src=ph&.dnm=South+Room+4.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Collection%2bPhotos%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 24098-11/12/2002-08:01 ||| Frigilux (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: Gansky: Speed Queen!
MESSAGE: Nice SQ set, Gansky! Did the pump/motor run during the fill portion of the cycle, as did later SQ's?
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Post# 24099-11/12/2002-08:51 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18 ('79 Frigidaire 1-18 )
MESSAGE: This is a Beauty
Best of Luck with it
Peter
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Post# 24100-11/12/2002-09:06 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18 (78 or earlier)
MESSAGE: Looks like you have a wonderful 78 model (79 models had a water level graphic). I have several of these consoles, so if your's does not clean up, I can send you one.
-ph
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Post# 24101-11/12/2002-09:36 ||| chicapplis (chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18
MESSAGE: I'm excited for you, It looks like its in pretty good shape.
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Post# 24102-11/12/2002-09:42 ||| chicapplis (chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: New Maytag Atlantis (1-18 ?)
MESSAGE: Its cool,
Poppy Red, I think I've only seen that color on Frigidaires, were they the only ones to offer that color?
I had an neighbor who had a mid 70s harvest gold frigidair set that they swore by.
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Post# 24103-11/12/2002-10:10 ||| chicapplis (chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Speed Wash (Speed Queen clean)
MESSAGE: what a layout. Everything is so clean, level, straight, and tastefully painted. A sign of a hard dutiful worker. I am only a week and half into collecting (again). And thats the way to present. I mean it should be, we work hard to save our machines from who knows what fate. We need to pamper out babies.
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Post# 24104-11/12/2002-10:30 ||| chicapplis (chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Movies and Classic Appliances...... (They only washer I can remember from like the 40's)
MESSAGE: was the Dumsteads, I think, husband and wife, child or 2 with dog. lived in a cape cod house. I forget their names. His was Dagwood, I think. Anyway a sales man called on them for a semi-automatic ringer washer which he had set up in the kitchen but not bolted down. And he said he could show it washing but not spinning. Then some distraction happened and the saleman was annoying her and she turned the knob to spin and it made quite a mess. I remember the long hoses run from the kitchen sink.
I don't know if that was a movie or a series. I remember watching it once as a child. Interesting, I don't remember much else about it, but I remember the washer. I must be one of those like, washing machine fanatics, or something. You think. HMMMM..
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Post# 24105-11/12/2002-11:02 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: GE and Downy survive GA tornado
MESSAGE: What a spin cycle!
LINK: http://www.accessatlanta.com/ajc/metro/photos/gastorm/image12.html
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Post# 24106-11/12/2002-11:21 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: JASONL'S VIDEO - FULL LENGTH VERSION - NOW AVAILABLE HERE!
MESSAGE: Yay!!! Great job!
-ph
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Post# 24107-11/12/2002-11:23 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: My Toys (Ms SQL don't know no trailer)
MESSAGE: Now that's just ignunt. Y'all got too much humidity up under yo wigs. Go take a nerve pill befo you go ahollerin'...
-ph
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Post# 24108-11/12/2002-11:40 ||| todde (longbeach, IN)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Movies and Classic Appliances...... (They only washer I can remember from like the 40's)
MESSAGE: They were the Bumsteds, and the movie was Blondie. The subtitle was Dagwood asks for a Raise.
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Post# 24109-11/12/2002-11:47 ||| todde (longbeach, IN)
SUBJECT: RE: GE and Downy survive GA tornado (Tornado and Soap Products)
MESSAGE: I remember when I was a youngster, and a tornado hit near by and really damaged a local market. The owner's were very good friends of my parents and they gave them truckloads of cleaning supplies from the damaged market. I understand because of the possibility of glass being in products the insurance company makes the store dispose of everything. Well, we had box after box of detergent. I remember how fun it was to have such a variety. I wish I had some of those boxes now.
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Post# 24110-11/12/2002-11:47 ||| cleanteamofny (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: JASONL'S VIDEO - FULL LENGTH VERSION - NOW AVAILABLE HERE!
MESSAGE: This is so beautiful!
Awesome job Imperialbob!!!!!!
CleanteamofNY
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Post# 24111-11/12/2002-12:07 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: CONVENTION VIDEO PART II
MESSAGE: JASON,
THANKS FOR ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK ON THE VIDEO! IT WAS AMAZING! MADE ME MISS ALL OF YOU GUYS SO MUCH!
BOB, THANKS ALSO!
BRENT
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Post# 24112-11/12/2002-12:08 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18 (pulsator cap search goes on and on and on . . .)
MESSAGE: Love that Poppy Red GM Frigidaire color. Good luck with the machine. May you find other machines you're looking for as well!
Wherever you found all the parts that you needed, by chance would they have the grey or black pulsator caps for the old 50's Unimatics? Please let me know the name of the company, I'd like to contact them to see if they might have the part, or know where I might find it.
P.S. Peter, I assume you didn't find it. Did you look everywhere you had intended to? Thanks anyway!
Eternally searching,
Ken
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Post# 24113-11/12/2002-12:33 ||| Flewbug (Greensboro, NC)
SUBJECT: Truly Vintage whirlpool dishwasher
MESSAGE: A friend has asked me to sell this for her and I'm not sure where to begin. This is a Whirlpool dishwasher with a metal label stating Hershey-Sexton mfg. co. patented July 28, 1914. Its in very good condition and seems to be complete. It has a grey metal tub with a long lever that works the blade inside. There is a removable dishrack inside. Can anyone enlighten me on this?
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Post# 24114-11/12/2002-15:17 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: GE and Downy survive GA tornado
MESSAGE: LOL, looks like the reporter is missing the "laundry gene" -- that's an open dryer door, not a washer!
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Post# 24115-11/12/2002-18:48 ||| JEtcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE and Downy survive GA tornado
MESSAGE: I'll say what a spin cycle, and they don't look that wrinkled!!
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Post# 24116-11/12/2002-19:04 ||| zzzzz (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: New Maytag Atlantis (1-18 ?)
MESSAGE: If I'm not mistaken, the 1947-49 Frigidaire washers were non-solid-tub, as well.
Of course, I've seen a "1-18" with a conventional oscillating agitator, a late-1970's-style console and cabinet, and a GM-style window in a Westinghouse-style lid . This was one of the early-1980s WCI "Westinghouseidaires." Impostor!
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Post# 24117-11/12/2002-19:21 ||| jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: Rare! Frigidaire Script
MESSAGE: Get a load of this script! I have never seen it but I'll bet Robert has a MINT! copy up in his bellfrey!!!
jet
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2070472904
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Post# 24118-11/12/2002-19:23 ||| Pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18 (78 or earlier)
MESSAGE: I believe I have a '79 Frigidaire I-18 becuase it does have the water level graphic, GM logo and Jetclean agitator. It works great, so it is well worth Dick's efforts to restore his. Mine is also poppy. Any clue as to what the entire model number is? It is at my vacation home and I am not there now but want to order a new belt for it.
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Post# 24119-11/12/2002-20:59 ||| Pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT: I-18, What's a "non-solid" tub?
MESSAGE: I have a 1978 or 9? Poppy Frigidare Jetwash up and down and I don't know if it is a non-solid tub or solid tub, or what the difference is, as I am a neophite in the washerphile collector pool of experts.
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Post# 24120-11/12/2002-21:12 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: New Maytag Atlantis (1-18 ?)
MESSAGE: Hi Z,
I never remember the WCI Frigidaire ever having a window lid.
But actually when it all began in January 1981 all the appliance stores I went to had very few of those dreadful things on display. I remember 1 salesperson having a heated discussion on the phone with a WCI rep. The rep told him he was supposed to tell people that their new Tri Action washer washed just as well as the Jet Action 1/18 did. The sales person said he would do no such thing and indicated it was garbage and they already had a Westinghouse TL - so what the hell did they need this garbage for
Peter
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Post# 24121-11/12/2002-21:14 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18 (78 or earlier)
MESSAGE: My Aunt had a 1974 Poppy 1/18 matching washer and dryer
(my favorate washer of all time)
Peter
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Post# 24122-11/12/2002-21:36 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: I-18, What's a "non-solid" tub?
MESSAGE: Welcome - that's why we're all here, to share and learn. We talked about a FAQ page at one time, but haven't gotten that done yet.
A solid tub (or solid basket) washer is one that has only holes around the top of the tub. It is filled with water for washing and the water is literally spun out of the tub and splashes into a much larger,stationary outer tub where it is drained away. This design allows for "overflow" washing and rinsing which is simply overfilling the tub during agitation until water is flowing out of the drain holes at the top, carrying away dirt and scum with it.
A perforated basket washer (or non-solid) is a simply a clothes basket with holes inside of a slightly larger tub. The entire unit is submerged in water and water is drained out through the holes and the bottom of the tub either with a neutral draining period or a "spin drain" when the clothes basket is revolving while draining.
Some washer tubs are confusing, they may look like perforated basket washers, but in fact are solid tub machines with perforated liners that are bolted to the actual solid tub. 1949-57'ish Maytag AMP style and '47-48 Frigidaire washers are two examples of this type. The link is to a picture of the early Frigidaire tub
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/multimatic850/vwp?.dir=/Very+First+Frigidaire+Washer+1947&.src=ph&.dnm=Fills+Between+the+Tubs.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/multimatic850/lst%3f%26.dir=/Very%2bFirst%2bFrigidaire%2bWasher%2b1947%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 24123-11/12/2002-21:37 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: 1/18 Dream Machine!
MESSAGE: I am sweating right now, someone has just offered me a free working order poppy 1/18! I don't know what to do! There is one catch, they want a front-loader in exchange, but all that I have got is a Kenmore Portable. What do I do? How do I convince my mom? Help! A dream machine is on the line here!
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Post# 24124-11/12/2002-22:42 ||| Chopper (Michigan City, Indiana)
SUBJECT: 1948 Dormeyer Power Chef Model 4000 stand mixer
MESSAGE: Hello everyone! My wife and I recently won an old mixer at a farm auction. It seems to work great, except that it's missing it's bowl and beaters. Does anyone have any ideas as to where these items may be found?
Best regards,
The Hamann's
my wife Eve's first starter website link below:
LINK: http://www.evescustomcrafts.com
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Post# 24125-11/12/2002-22:57 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: Cool Hoover on Ebay
MESSAGE: Hi Everyone I have been busy so I havent posated for a while but I really enjoyed watching Jasons convention video. Thanx!
Anyway check outt his really cool Hoover on Ebay. I would definately buy it if it was available in Australia.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2071214895
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Post# 24126-11/12/2002-23:47 ||| Pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: 1/18 Dream Machine! (My Poppy I-I8)
MESSAGE: I would let it go for maybe a Maytag Neptune front loader.
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Post# 24127-11/12/2002-23:49 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Speed Wash (Speed Queen)
MESSAGE: Greg, I figured that was a SQ washer--given I've seen pics of your washer and knew that tyhat emblem on the front didn't match the WO65 emblems.
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Post# 24128-11/12/2002-23:53 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New Maytag Atlantis (1-18 ?)
MESSAGE: Yes Stefgve, Frigidaire only offered Poppy. It never caught on with the other manufacturers.
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Post# 24129-11/12/2002-23:55 ||| Pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18 (78 or earlier)
MESSAGE: I am not sure what year I inherited, but it is Poppy Red, with all of the features and the multilple water level switch with the graphic that shows the level as compared to the Jet Cone Agitator.
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Post# 24130-11/12/2002-23:59 ||| Pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: 1/18 Dream Machine! (Who said Free?)
MESSAGE: It was "I would consider a trade" Nothing is free, but nice people can negotiate. Perhaps a used front loading Maytag?
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Post# 24131-11/13/2002-00:07 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New Maytag Atlantis (1-18 ?)
MESSAGE: zzzz, the 47-49 Frigidaires with the perforated tubs were actually still a solid tub, as were the Maytag AP washers with the perf tubs.
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Post# 24132-11/13/2002-04:22 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: 1948 Dormeyer Power Chef Model 4000 stand mixer (WACEM)
MESSAGE: Hi,
There is a group especially for mixers called Wacem (We Actually Collect Electric Mixers). Follow the link and you will get there.
Louis
LINK: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WACEM/
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Post# 24133-11/13/2002-04:58 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: Todays POD Speed Queen
MESSAGE: Definately Quality Speed Queen!!!
Chick aint half bad either! Much better than that scary looking Frigidaire Queen (who really reminds my of our scary primary school librarian) , Speed Queen for me!
Arrrooohhh indeed!!
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Post# 24134-11/13/2002-05:02 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: New Maytag Atlantis
MESSAGE: Hi Joshie!
I am so sad that Maytag has dropped push buttons from their line up. Now everyone has either knobs or electronic touch controls and all of them looking the same.
Fortunately in Aus we still will have the push buttons Atlantis for a while I wonder when the new one will make it to our shores, Was there any other changes other than the dails?
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Post# 24135-11/13/2002-06:10 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: CONVENTION VIDEO PART II
MESSAGE: That video was absolutely awesome, Jason. Makes me even sorrier that I was not able to attend the convention this year.
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Post# 24136-11/13/2002-06:38 ||| Dick_S. (Palm Springs vicinity)
SUBJECT: RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18 (78 or earlier)
MESSAGE: ph-
Thanks for the info and the offer. I can't wait to give it a good cleaning and polishing and run my first load!
Dick
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Post# 24137-11/13/2002-06:40 ||| Dick_S. (Palm Springs vicinity)
SUBJECT: RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18
MESSAGE: I believe it is also and can't wait to truck it home.
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Post# 24138-11/13/2002-06:48 ||| Dick_S. (Palm Springs vicinity)
SUBJECT: RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18 (pulsator cap search goes on and on and on . . .)
MESSAGE: Ken,
It took me three days to track down this certain individual who came up with the parts for my 118. I asked him about your pulsator cap. He didn't have one. I am sincere when I say that I will keep looking for you.
Dick
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Post# 24139-11/13/2002-07:02 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: SPEED QUEEN PIC-OF-THE-DAY
MESSAGE: That is such a great ad! And what a beauty! (washer)Anyone know what year / year's these were made?
There are several mats here in Atlanta that still have this machine running! They must have been very well built! I am sure that the owners have really made a profit off of them!
When I was home in Louisiana several months ago, I stopped by a Speed Queen laundry center that I remembered from my childhood. I was so shocked when I walked in, and all of the Speed Queen machines that I remembered from my childhood was still there, and up and running! They had about 15 of the front loaders in the POD. And about 20 of the solid basket SQ top loaders. They had two of the SQ Dry Cleaning machines. The owner was there and we talked about his mat. He said that his Dry Cleaning machines never worked correct, and he stopped them in the 60's because he was afraid that someone would get hurt by them! He did not have the heart to get rid of them because he said he loved the novelty of the machines. He loved his SQ's, and said that he would do anything that he could to keep them up and running! It was so nice to hear someone say that! There were about 5 of the top loaders running, and two of the front loaders running while I was there. It was such a cool sound. Somewhat loud, but pleasing all the same!
Of course I gave him my number, and said that if he ever decided to get rid of the machines, or close the shop, (he was about 70 in age) to give me a call. He was very happy that I did give him my number, and could not believe that there was a club for vintage machines.
He did not know what the internet was!
Brent
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Post# 24140-11/13/2002-07:06 ||| Dick_S. (Palm Springs vicinity)
SUBJECT: RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18 (78 or earlier)
MESSAGE: I'll jot down that info next time I visit the 118 and post it for you. Dick
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Post# 24141-11/13/2002-07:19 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: SPEED QUEEN PIC-OF-THE-DAY (WHERE????)
MESSAGE: Dude, where is this laundromat? I'll have to go check it out. The laundromat that I grew up around still has the same Milnor front loader from when I was a kid. Just as fun to watch today.
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Post# 24142-11/13/2002-07:30 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: SPEED QUEEN PIC-OF-THE-DAY (WHERE????)
MESSAGE: Hello Jason,
Morgan City
Brent
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Post# 24143-11/13/2002-09:28 ||| Frigilux (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: Brent Visits Vintage Laundromat
MESSAGE: Brent---what a great story! I can't believe those machines are still running. I wonder if the owner would be surprised if people from the web group started showing up to take video/pics?
Mostly, though, I love it that there are people who don't know about the internet. That is too cool.
Question: I've never seen a Frigidaire coin-op with an agitator cover. Did they not use one or were they all lost over time? Was the Jet Action diminished by the water shooting out the top of the open agitator, rather than being forced out the side openings into the submerged clothes?
And where is our beloved Uni lately? Has he gone undercover? Come to think of it, has anyone ever seen Uni Robert and Gansky in a room at the same time?! ;)
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Post# 24144-11/13/2002-09:39 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18 (78 or earlier)
MESSAGE: WC-6G probably. There are so many WC-6's around. The real gems are the WIA's, the WCI's and the ever ellusive WEG.
-ph
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Post# 24145-11/13/2002-09:42 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18 (1-18 belts)
MESSAGE: Changing the belt is a pretty major ordeal on 1-18's. If it is not slipping and you get good agitation and spinning, I'd order the new belt and just keep it on hand.
-ph
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Post# 24146-11/13/2002-09:46 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: SPEED QUEEN PIC-OF-THE-DAY (Super 20's)
MESSAGE: The only thing about these Super20's is that there are only 2 lifting vanes on the tub. Because the tub is stainless, the clothes just slide on the tub until a vane comes along and turns the load over. Give a whole new meaning to "lift and fall". It also has a pause and redistribute routine during the last spin.
Store owners love these machines and really do anything to keep them going.
-ph
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Post# 24147-11/13/2002-09:47 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Brent Visits Vintage Laundromat
MESSAGE: nt
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/vwp?.dir=/2002+Convention+and+Holidays&.dnm=Washerboys.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 24148-11/13/2002-09:52 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Brent Visits Vintage Laundromat
MESSAGE: Hi Frigilux. No I haven't gone undercover and yes I have seen both Greg and myself in the same room at the same time :).
I have recieved a big promotion at work, but its going to keep me very busy for the next few months, so I wont have much time for the club during the day. I have to learn a whole new computer programming language and at the same time I'm part of a big system reconfig team. In the evenings I've been so tired that I don't feel like being on the computer.
I'm still around and do look occassionally, just taking a bit of a needed break while I'm concentrating hard on something else for a bit.
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Post# 24149-11/13/2002-09:53 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: SPEED QUEEN PIC-OF-THE-DAY
MESSAGE: Brent,
What a cool story about the laundromat in Louisiana. We should save that one. Overhere in Europe laundromats seem to come back again. In Germany there is even a kind of pub where you can do your laundry. What would a laundromat have to cost at the moment? And can you make a living out of one?
Louis
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Post# 24150-11/13/2002-12:22 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: SPEED QUEEN PIC-OF-THE-DAY
MESSAGE: Brent-Aucoin:
I have also checked out the Speed Queen F/L Commercial Washer that is featured in today's POD. And while I don't know EXACTLY the years these were made, I do know that their are several laundromats around here in the Washington, D. C. area in which these machines are still in use. So then, in my estimation, I guess this machine is anywhere from 20-25 years old. I don't know that for certain though. Maybe we need to ask some of these "coin" laundry experts right here in "Classic Appliances", eh????
But in whatever case, the lady in the picture isn't bad looking either. Damn..... maybe I just met my new wife (hehehehehehehehehe!!!!!!!). What do any of you think????
--Charles--
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Post# 24151-11/13/2002-12:22 ||| Frigilux (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: Uni Surfaces/Foraloysius
MESSAGE: Uni--- good luck with your promotion and computer language. We Minnesota boys have to look for one another---easy to get lost here in the winter! :)
Foraloysius--- I was unable to open the link on your last message. :(
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Post# 24152-11/13/2002-12:24 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: SPEED QUEEN PIC-OF-THE-DAY (WHERE????)
MESSAGE: What's the name of the place? How do I get to it? I wanna check these machines out. Thanks.
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Post# 24153-11/13/2002-13:18 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Uni Surfaces/Foraloysius
MESSAGE: Yahoo was acting up again, try again later.
Louis
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Post# 24154-11/13/2002-13:56 ||| Frigilux (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: Washerboys Picture
MESSAGE: Foraloysius--- I tried again and was able to access your link with the Washerboys picture. Great! Who is in the picture? Is this a picture that proves both Uni and Gansky have been in a room at the same time? I have not had the pleasure of attending a convention, so I don't know who everyone is.
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Post# 24155-11/13/2002-14:40 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Washerboys Picture
MESSAGE: From left to right:
Appnut
Unimatic1140
Golittlesport
Scott55405
Gansky1
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Post# 24156-11/13/2002-14:49 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Washerboys Picture
MESSAGE: From left to right: Bob (Appnut), Robert (Unimatic1140), Rich (Golittlesport), Scott (Scott55405) and Greg (Gansky1).
Is there a picture from you somewhere online?
Hope to meet you at the next convention!
Louis
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Post# 24157-11/13/2002-14:58 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Washerboys Picture
MESSAGE: I was on the phone while writing my message, it took me a while to post....
BTW, meet Glenn (Dadoes) doing a typical convention thing: Putting an arm in a washer.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/vwp?.dir=/2002+Convention+and+Holidays&.dnm=Club+habit.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 24158-11/13/2002-20:00 ||| zzzzz (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: New Maytag Atlantis (Not-so-perforated tub...)
MESSAGE: Appnut--Thanks for the insight. I saw the picture linked from post #24122, so I guess looks can be deceiving, like the bogus 1-18 I talked about earlier.
Z.
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Post# 24159-11/13/2002-20:28 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT: WO-65 Update/Advice
MESSAGE: Greg, Robert or anyone else with Unimatic experience:
I've got the new washtub installed in the basement, and the Frigidaire WO-65 washer hooked up and running, sans the agitator cap (gotta get that comment in again). Just a few questions, before I move it to its permanent spot; when the machine agitates or spins there is a tinny clatter that comes and goes. Is that the motor switch still in need of cleaning? Also noticed when I was cleaning the old oil film and dirt under the machine was the fact that the motor fan has about half an inch of free play when you try to move it around by hand before it catches and moves the tub. Is that normal? The tinny sound seems to be coming from the lower part of the motor. I thought it might be a loose fan assembly shaking around, but I'm not sure. Is that fan part alone able to be tightened up without removing it? Any comments appreciated.
Ken
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Post# 24160-11/13/2002-21:36 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Washerboys Picture (Thanks a bunch!!!)
MESSAGE: A big thank-you hug to both Jason and Bob for the convention video. You did a great job!! Sure brings back lots of good memories!! Thanks again.
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Post# 24161-11/13/2002-21:39 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Brent Visits Vintage Laundromat (congratulations!!)
MESSAGE: Congratulations Robert on the promotion!! I am very happy for you!!
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Post# 24162-11/13/2002-21:47 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: WO-65 Update/Advice
MESSAGE: Hi Ken - It sounds like your motor fan is loose on the motor shaft. The fan is held tight on the motor shaft by the pump impeller shaft. The only way to tighten this is to remove the cross-brace from the bottom of the cabinet, remove the pump cover and tighten the pump impeller screw. This was the (initial) problem with my WO-65. Robert and I fixed this when he was here back in January - here's a picture of the bottom of the pump.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Frigidaire+1950+WO65+%26+TR60+Filtrator&.dnm=Pump+Screw+Repair.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 24163-11/13/2002-21:50 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Washerboys Picture
MESSAGE: Howdy! 
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Post# 24164-11/13/2002-22:00 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Brent Visits Vintage Laundromat
MESSAGE: Don't work too hard, and don't forget to check for messages from the recycler!
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Post# 24165-11/13/2002-22:03 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: SPEED QUEEN PIC-OF-THE-DAY
MESSAGE: There is a laundromat in the next town over that still has three of these machines still in operation...........
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Post# 24166-11/13/2002-22:15 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: WO-65 Update/Advice
MESSAGE: Exactly right Greg. But Ken be sure to remove that pump impeller screw and put a small amount of blue Loctite (available at any hardware store) on the screw threads. Let it dry overnight before running the machine so the vibration wont loosen it.
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Post# 24167-11/13/2002-22:16 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Truly Vintage whirlpool dishwasher (pics?)
MESSAGE: sounds very interesting, are you able to post any pics of the interior and/or exterior??
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Post# 24168-11/13/2002-22:20 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: I was an inch...
MESSAGE: I was an inch from getting my 1/18 dream machine... Then someone stole it out from under me... I feel horrible...:-(
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Post# 24169-11/13/2002-22:35 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: WO-65 Update/Advice
MESSAGE: and then...;-) you'll need a new pump gasket as well, Ken. I remember my first gasket making attempt! We used rolled cork and used the pump cover for a template. Don't worry if you have to cut a few "practice" ones before getting it right! Be sure to clean off all traces of the old gasket before re-installing the cover and new gasket. If you are lucky, you'll have some new gaskets in your parts stash.
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Post# 24170-11/13/2002-23:09 ||| Jjosh (Phoenix, AZ)
SUBJECT: RE: New Maytag Atlantis (Newest Atlantis)
MESSAGE: Hi too Arrrooohhh, Yes, I just saw the newest release of the latest Maytag Atlantis t/l washer. It really does look beautiful, I must say. The vertically placed mechanical series pushbuttons unfortunately have been eliminated. I also like the 'old style' push button models becomming more and more rare these days. However, the new Atlantis has utilized a very unique type of rotary switch. It remindes me more or less of a 'lever' style rotary switch...somewhat retro or art deco looking. The switches are elongated and metallic in color. The medallion on the lid has also changed to appear more 'retro' (horizontally elongated medallion). The console now takes on a somewhat curved shape...very similiar the the latest Frigidaire t/l's. Finally, it appears that the agitator has undergone some very moderate configuration changes. The flex-fins now sport a ridge design which matches the ridge design of the f/l Neptune's drum vanes. Also the 'micro-vanes' between the flex-fins now appear to have a 'stepped' appearance. Other than these cosmetic changes, Im not sure, if any, mechanical changes have been made. Please post if there is more info. available....
Jjosh
LINK: http://
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Post# 24171-11/13/2002-23:10 ||| Jjosh (Phoenix, AZ)
SUBJECT: Sorry about the Link
MESSAGE: Im new, so I dont know how to post a link. I did'nt mean to place the 'link' site in my message!
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Post# 24172-11/14/2002-00:01 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: The Kenmore Agitator (Is that a Thin Twin?!)
MESSAGE: Hi Pulsator,
Yep thats a thin twin, i'd have to move that little monster over to the outlet to run it so i took some pictures of it as it is and i also took a picture of a 24 inch washer washing which is the same as the thin twin except the thin twins tub isn't as deep. The 24 incher is under my washers and the thin twins in its own album. Enjoy!
~Steven
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/washerstuff
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Post# 24173-11/14/2002-00:09 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Brent Visits Vintage Laundromat
MESSAGE: Wow!!! I knew I was in the presence of esteemed company, but I didn't know THAT esteemed.
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Post# 24174-11/14/2002-07:05 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Brent Visits Vintage Laundromat (Uni and Gansky in 1 room...)
MESSAGE: Remember the old story about how there are only a couple of people who know the true formula for Coca-cola, and they are never allowed in the one room together, in case some something should happen to them and the knowledge they share would be lost...
Maybe with their intimate knowledge of the darkest innermost secrets of the Unimatic mechanism, for posterity we may have to introduce the same rule for Uni and Gansky... ;)
Best Wishes
Chris
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Post# 24175-11/14/2002-07:18 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Brent Visits Vintage Laundromat (Uni and Gansky in 1 room...)
MESSAGE: Oh no - not me! Robert and Jon Charles maybe, I'm just beginning my unimatic career experience!
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Post# 24176-11/14/2002-11:10 ||| Gwleong (California)
SUBJECT: Vintage Admiral Refrigerator
MESSAGE:
I have an old Admiral refrigerator that I want to get rid of but I was told there might be some interest in the unit. It was bought new by my parents in the mid 50's and has been plugged in and running pretty much continuously since then. Believe it or not, it still works as new!! It is cosmetically perfect for it's age, slight crack in the plastic interior, but still hold the temperature fine.
The exterior has not been dented or scratched.
I really hate to part with it but I need the space. It's truly a nice looking piece....like an old car...white with lots of chrome trim. I can get the model number if necessary. This is a single door unit with an 'internal' freezer door.
Please let me know if anyone is interested.
Thanks!
Gary
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Post# 24177-11/14/2002-13:56 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Admiral Refrigerator
MESSAGE: Hi Gary,
I wish I was closer, I would love to check it out, but I am in MAss. Have you thought of putting it on ebay? or there are a couple websites that may be able to help you out, one being...
www.antiqueappliances.com
they restore stoves and frigs and are always looking for used.
or ... www.theoldapplianceclub.com ....
they are always looking for old, used appliances, and/or you could place a for sale ad in either one.........., but if you want to sell it, taking some pics and putting it out on ebay might be the best way in my opinion, good luck.........
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Post# 24178-11/14/2002-16:34 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: WO-65 Update/Advice (follow-up)
MESSAGE: Greg/Robert:
Thanks for your response. May I conclude that there should be NO free play in the fan before it turns the tub?
Hope to get the repair this weekend. Is it unlikely that part of the fan blade/assembly is worn out and not tightenable? What's the collective experience with this repair? I suppose I'll find out when I open it.
P.S. I carefully removed the pulsator/agitator to check the bellows before running the machine again. It looks great. Either it was a very high quality rubber that's lasted fifty years (unlikely), or it has at some point been replaced. Incredibly, there are no cuts, cracks or signs of age on it.
Also, to Robert: Good luck with your new position or promotion!
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Post# 24179-11/14/2002-23:09 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: WO-65 Update/Advice (follow-up)
MESSAGE: Hi Ken - You could have a worn out fan blade, but more likely, the pump screw just needs to be tightened. Try this first, there should be little or no up and down wobble in the fan blade if it's being held tight by the pump shaft. I ended up taking mine apart several times for various reasons and need to once again to replace the pump seal now, just as soon as I find one!
Good luck, we should be around this weekend so call if you need anything - it's a relatively simple part of the unimatic so it should go well.
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Post# 24180-11/14/2002-23:10 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: I was an inch...
MESSAGE: Don't worry Jamie - your 1-18 day will come.
;-)
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Post# 24181-11/15/2002-06:40 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: GREAT AUNT KENMORE'S UPPER SPIN BEARING
MESSAGE: It started with a cricket leg, actually. My '53 Kenmore started spewing water sidewards, out between the top and the side of the cabinet. Fortunately, I was right there when it happened so I stopped filling and removed the top of the washer to find a cricket leg laying on the screen between the stream of water and the washtub,,,,and this leg was the perfect diverter for the water - I was sure I had blown a hose to the fill flume - but, sure enough, cricket leg.
Yesterday, after two loads of laundry, I removed the agitator (so it will dry, and to wipe clean the spin tube, like my Grandmother taught me to do) and I noticed a rather high ambient temperature near the spanner nut area...so this morning I have taken the old girl apart for upper bearing lubrication....there will be pictures if anyone is interested in seeing inside a 50 year old kenmore....I did have this apart about 12 years ago, so it came apart like a sweetheart this time....There's nothing like a good, deep internal lubrication to get your day started off right.
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Post# 24182-11/15/2002-07:21 ||| Rickpro (Ransomville NY)
SUBJECT: GE Electric Stove
MESSAGE: We have a Vintage 1946? GE elecrtic stove that has CLOROX surface elements that need replaced they are 7-1/2" across and 5 -3/4" IF ANYONE CAN HELP PLEASE CONTACT ME. thank you.
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Post# 24183-11/15/2002-08:25 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Electric Stove
MESSAGE: Chromalox?
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Post# 24184-11/15/2002-09:10 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Electric Stove (chromalox oracles)
MESSAGE: I wonder if the gas oracles need replacing too...just kidding, of course...
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Post# 24185-11/15/2002-11:27 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Electric Stove (chromalox oracles COROX ELEMENTS - details..)
MESSAGE: I think the guy means to say COROX, of course, and many of you fellows who strip electric ranges likely have just what they need on the shelf....
Is the burner a two or a three wire element, and is it controlled by pushbuttons, rotary type infinite switch, or perhaps the 5 or 7 position heat switch...Also need to know if it's a 6 or an 8 inch burner....I'll bet John LeFever has one..most certainly he does....is there anyone more likely to have one than John?
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Post# 24186-11/15/2002-11:31 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Electric Stove
MESSAGE: it might be "calrod"
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Post# 24187-11/15/2002-14:46 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Electric Stove (calrod or corox)
MESSAGE: True, it would have to be a Westinghouse range to be a Corox burner, unless someone put westinghouse elements into a Ge Range, which would have had Calrod burners.....
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Post# 24188-11/15/2002-15:23 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: NEARLY ALL BACK TOGETHER NOW
MESSAGE: Inner tub is all back in now, but I'm gonna let a little rustoleum dry a spell while I go to the gym...I've taken about 50 pictures...everything's looking swell for the old girl to be running later tonight...
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Post# 24189-11/15/2002-15:37 ||| Kittynoir (Austin TX)
SUBJECT: Any Kenmore gas stove renovators in Texas??
MESSAGE: Hi I just joined
We have a 1940's or 1950's Kenmore gas stove that we would dearly love to find someone to fix up
we live in Austin
great looking group!
thanks!
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Post# 24190-11/15/2002-16:05 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: NEARLY ALL BACK TOGETHER NOW
MESSAGE: A-n-t-i-c-i-p-a-t-i-o-n
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Post# 24191-11/15/2002-17:24 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Electric Stove
MESSAGE: Rickpro, there is a large appliance parts distributor in Buffalo across from the main post office on William Street. I'll bet they would be able to help you. The name of the concern is "Appliance Parts Distributors" or APD. You probably would want to take the failed elements with you, so they can be matched.
Have fun....Leslie
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Post# 24192-11/15/2002-18:02 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: Balanced load
MESSAGE: Yeah, yeah, I know my question is about a new machine, but I know someone out there has got the answer.
I watched my Equator 3600cee balance ?, distribute? load before a spin and realized it does it differently each time depending on load. How does it know when load is at optimum balance point? Did the vintage units do this also?
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Post# 24193-11/15/2002-18:09 ||| Jille (los angeles)
SUBJECT: Pink GE Stove
MESSAGE: My grandmother bought a condo which has a really cool
pale pink GE stove. We have heard that the GE stove in
this color was only available in Miami, FL. (which is
where she is living.) Does anyone have any info?
Thanks! :)
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Post# 24194-11/15/2002-19:52 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: WO-65 Update/Advice (final follow-up )
MESSAGE: Greg, the reason I was trying to reclarify the status of the possibly loose fan to you, is that there is little or NO UP and DOWN wobble in the fan blade. As I said there is about a half of inch of free play in the blade (BACK AND FORTH) before it catches and turns the tub. It still sounds clattery like loose metal nonetheless. When you turn the fan, it's something like free play backpedaling in a multi-speed bicycle before the gear catches and turns the wheel. Is THAT OK? I don't want to start to take it apart for the wrong reason. Final question on this subject for now, I promise. If I get into the repair on Sunday and have more questions, I'll give you a call.
P.S. Other than the cork gasket, will other parts be reusable, I hope. I'll remove them very carefully. Also I noticed you had your machine face-front down. Any advantage to that? I was still going to tip it opposite the timer to avoid oil spillage, but I suppose your way will be OK too.
Anyway, back to the initial point in this post. Based on only the back and forth loose motion in the fan, should I still go ahead and take it apart? What do you think?
Ken
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Post# 24195-11/15/2002-21:27 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: GEARBOX DATED 11 15 54 - TODAY'S DATE 48 YEARS AGO!!
MESSAGE: On the 48th birthday of the gearbox, the machine gets a good lube job...The appliance Gods had something to do with that one, you can be sure.
O.K. guys. Long loading page. Lots of photos.
Enjoy.
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/KENMORE/INDEX.htm
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Post# 24196-11/15/2002-22:06 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Pink Maytag dryer for sale!
MESSAGE: " It is from the late 60's and we used to use it for a while." States the seller of this beauty. I f you can fork over $200.00, your all set!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2072351298
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Post# 24197-11/15/2002-22:24 ||| pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT: I-18 Frigidaire Jetcone
MESSAGE: Does the model number WCDT mean anything? It is on the back of my machine. I have tried to enter it into parts catalogs and the Frigidaire Support site to get an owners manual and I have come up empty. I did get postive response for WC-6G, which is close to looking like my model, but not quite. Mine is poppy red, with no lid window and has more options for wash/rinse temps and soak cycle than the WC-6G. Any rhyme or reason as to how Frigidaire put out model numbers?
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Post# 24198-11/15/2002-22:26 ||| pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: I was an inch...
MESSAGE: It isn't sold yet, just alot of inquires and a bid for $450.00.
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Post# 24199-11/15/2002-22:42 ||| steved (Albany, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: I-18 Frigidaire Jetcone (WCDT model)
MESSAGE: Hi, the WCDT model is prolly from 1971 or 72. W = washer, CD = Custom Deluxe and T = model year. I think they also had a WCD3T, as a followup model. The 3 was an indication of some change in the warranty terms, or such. It was the most popular model of its series, with speed, water temp and infinite water level choices. Im sure it wont come up on the Frigidaire support site cause of its age.... SteveD
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Post# 24200-11/15/2002-22:45 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: GEARBOX DATED 11 15 54 - TODAY'S DATE 48 YEARS AGO!! (Great Job Bob!!)
MESSAGE: Thanks for all the neat pictures Bob. This was a very interesting project. Hope you will post some pictures when you have her all put back together.
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Post# 24201-11/15/2002-22:50 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: GEARBOX DATED 11 15 54 - TODAY'S DATE 48 YEARS AGO!! (Buggy appliances)
MESSAGE: Well now I've heard it all, the first real bug in a computer program was indeed a real bug in a transistor, now a bug in an appliances is indeed a bug =) Great work bob that machine looks great under her hood. Its so amazing that the underneath of my 75 whirlpool is so similar to that machine, they must have made a fortune on that design and here frigidaire changed their designs alot to make their machine continually better (err up to a point when wci took em)
anyway enough yackin gotta get crackin.
~Steven
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Post# 24202-11/15/2002-23:48 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: GEARBOX DATED 11 15 54 - TODAY'S DATE 48 YEARS AGO!! (11 15 54 )
MESSAGE: After 48 years - this is Great
Best of Luck
Peter
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Post# 24203-11/15/2002-23:48 ||| chopper (Michigan City, Indiana)
SUBJECT: RE: 1948 Dormeyer Power Chef Model 4000 stand mixer (WACEM)
MESSAGE: Hey Louis! I've been there done that too! thanks!
LINK: http://www.evescustomcrafts.com
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Post# 24204-11/16/2002-00:47 ||| pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: I-18 Frigidaire Jetcone (WCDT model)
MESSAGE: Steve, thanks for the info. I just want an owners manual for this machine, and you are right, the parts deparments don't recognize it. I will try WCD3t, though. I love the machine, but it is too huge capacity for my septic tank at my summer home, and would like to trade or sell so I can get a front-loader. So far, I have been offered $450, buyer pays shipping. Well, it is in immaculate shape. I almost hate to part with it. Maybe I will trade it out with my Maytag A-107 in the city?
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Post# 24205-11/16/2002-01:44 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Balanced load
MESSAGE: On the Appliances Forum there is a thread (RE: Combo Washer / Dryers - Part 7) where issues about combos are discussed. One of the most active members (Tom) of that forum has an Equator himself. I'm sure he will be glad to help you out with your question. Click on the link and you will be taken to the Appliances Forum.
Louis
LINK: http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/appl/
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Post# 24206-11/16/2002-01:52 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: GEARBOX DATED 11 15 54 - TODAY'S DATE 48 YEARS AGO!!
MESSAGE: Wonderful job Bob. I'm impressed that you did this even without busted knockles or blood loss. Hope to see some pictures of her when she's all back together again.
Take care,
Louis
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Post# 24207-11/16/2002-08:05 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: GEARBOX DATED 11 15 54 - TODAY'S DATE 48 YEARS AGO!! (Thanks Bob!)
MESSAGE: Bob,
Great job with the photo's! You make it look so simple and fun.
Same request, can you post some pictures of her together?
Also, you mentioned that this machine was for your Grand Mother? Did she have the dryer also?
Thanks Bob!
Brent
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Post# 24208-11/16/2002-08:51 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GEARBOX DATED 11 15 54 - TODAY'S DATE 48 YEARS AGO!!
MESSAGE: What a beautiful washer Bob- it is truly in remarkable condition for it's age too! This was my grandmother's first automatic washer and dryer, she had the washer for only five years and then bought a Maytag. I'm not exactly sure why, perhaps it was just a simple cricket leg problem!
Beautiful work and thanks for the pictures!
Greg
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Post# 24209-11/16/2002-08:57 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: Great Aunt Kenmore thanks you all! (well, most of you)
MESSAGE: This morning Great Aunt kenmore tells me she feels just like an internet celebrity, and she wishes me to thank you all for your interest.
As far as shots of the old girl all back together, well, that IS all back together , except for the top, which really doesn't bear any electrical functions, and is just a dust cover, really , for what you see there underneath....This week I'll be painting the floor, so I'm leaving the top off a minute so I can move the old girl more easily around the room myself...
O.K. men.. Keep those machines running properly, and be sure to fix 'em up right away when they're not.. Sitting idle is one of the worst things for a vintage washer....they dry up and get stuck.....it's better to use your machines lightly, but regularly, to maintain their operation.
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Post# 24210-11/16/2002-08:58 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: WO-65 Update/Advice (final follow-up )
MESSAGE: Hi Ken -
There shouldn't be any play in that fan - the pump screw needs to be tighted to stop the noise.
We had the machine lying on it's front because we were changing the oil at the same time so don't worry about that right now, just tip it on it's left side (from the front) to keep the vent tube from leaking oil.
Greg
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Post# 24211-11/16/2002-09:09 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Pink GE Stove
MESSAGE: "Petal Pink" was GE's version of the color popularized in part by the color of a dress worn by Mamie Eisenhower to Ike's swearing in as the 34th President of the US in January, 1953. Pink, turquoise and bright yellow were very popular throughout the 1950's and early 1960's and were available nationwide from most appliance manufacturers.
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Post# 24212-11/16/2002-11:03 ||| chicapplis (illinois)
SUBJECT: Maytag help
MESSAGE: What a busy week collecting. Amongst the items found was a mdl #A606 Maytag washer which doesn't seem to have leaked any oil but does not seem to spin very fast. The motor seems alright It functions in either speed. Could the belt be slipping?
Was this made around 1970?
Is there some way of determining year of manufacture from the model # tags on Maytag?
Also I found a mdl #GA512 from I assume the early 1980's since the control panel is flat. Its Harvest gold, what a find. In good condition but when I leaned it on its side to slide it into my vehicle and bring home it was discovered that it has leaked oil in a major way. Not just from below. That is like my only complaint about Maytag-when they leak, they make a mess. At least GE and Whirlpool when they leak there is a good chance it will be contained or spun out onto the side walls. I have never taken apart a Maytag transmission. And there is a warning label about being spring loaded. How difficult is it to repair a maytag transmission?
I was wondering when Maytag changed from the bi-angle control panel of the late 60's and early 70's to the flat panel.
Among other dated periodicals a GE Freezer manual was found dating to 1948, at least it reads "Rev. 3-48". The manual tells how to prepare and cook with your new GE chest freezer. There is a picture of a old GE freezer on the front, in B&W, with small elves or children or something running around with food items to put in the appliance. Inside there are pictures of "classic", as the term may be used, GE appliances in use as well as other 1940's fashions and techniques. The book doesn't really serve me, but I thought it might be of interest to someone here. Let me know.
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Post# 24213-11/16/2002-11:41 ||| appliguy (Vienna Va.)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag help (Maytag control panels)
MESSAGE: If I understand your descriptions properly, Maytag went from the bi angle control panel with the cycle dial in the middle to the flat panel with the cycle dial at the right in 1981. The Bi angle panel first made its debut in 1967. Harvest gold was offered as late as the mid 1980's (circa 1984) by alot of manufactures so I do believe your assesment of the GA512 would be correct
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Post# 24214-11/16/2002-11:46 ||| joeekaitis (Rialto, California, USA)
SUBJECT: Saturday, November 17, 2002 Picture of the Day
MESSAGE: Yeah! Yeah! More pictures of women who do their laundry in white go-go dresses and patent-leather heels!! :)
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Post# 24215-11/16/2002-12:38 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Saturday, November 17, 2002 Picture of the Day
MESSAGE: I don't know about that as a possibility. I think she might have been the ONLY one who did laundry like that.........
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Post# 24216-11/16/2002-18:54 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Saturday, November 17, 2002 Picture of the Day
MESSAGE: I don't know, but mayhbe being a go-go dancer and the heels helped knock out the dirt in the laundry quicker!!!! Or helped you dance through laundry day much faster.
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Post# 24217-11/16/2002-20:25 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Saturday, November 17, 2002 Picture of the Day
MESSAGE: She sure is goovy, man. But what's with that kitchen placement? She must not have had any dorothies handy to design in a nice laundry closet. Poor thing!
Or is that her upscale laundry room, complete with sink and cabinets for hand washables? Too bad she couldn't afford a matching dryer! She may have spent all her extra cash on shoes!
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Post# 24218-11/16/2002-20:43 ||| chicapplis (illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Saturday, November 17, 2002 Picture of the Day
MESSAGE: i like it, Its very 70's. love the laminate countertop.
What I didn't get was the pic from a couple of days ago where a woman was standing behind a commercial washer with a Williamsburg chandelier hanging from the right upper frame. Was this in her dining room in Connecticut or what. And who were they selling too?
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Post# 24219-11/17/2002-07:11 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: GREAT AUNT KENMORE'S UPPER SPIN BEARING (cricket leg)
MESSAGE: HI IMPERIALBOB,
How big was the cricket leg? The ones we get here would barely be able to make any difference to the flow. How big are crickets where you are???
I loved the photos. The solid transmission pulley - is that normal on newer models in the USA? The sixties and seventies ones made here in Aus had a cast aluminium pulley with (I think) five spokes. I am wondering if that is an old/new difference, or an Aus/USA difference?
That's a lovely old machine you have there, you must be very proud of it.
Best Wishes
Chris
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Post# 24220-11/17/2002-07:31 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Balanced load
MESSAGE: Hi Comboboy.
I can't help with specific info on your Equator, but there are two main ways that microprocessor controlled machines detect balanced/imbalanced loads - 1. Pendulum switch. A pendulum is mounted on the outer drum assembly. If when starting to spin the pendulum swings enough to trigger a microswitch next to it, the processor interprests this as unbalanced and tries again to distribute the load. 2. Motor monitoring. The motor is given a short burst of power, after which the processor monitors the behaviour of the motor as it coasts to rest again (either with an external tacho coil, or monitoring back-EMF pulses from the motor's own windings). If the motor turns in uneven bursts, and quickly stops, it is unbalanced. > machine tries to redistribute. If the motor coasts evenly and slows down at a moderate rate, it is balanced and continues into spin.
Most older front loaders have no unbalance detection. They rely on the ability of their suspension to absorb any unbalance. Some are much better than others at this. Some only had two speeds (tumble and spin) so relied on the tumble speed to distribute the load, which can be a bit erratic. Others had a specific "distribute" speed, about 100 rpm, which was better at throwing clothes evenly around the drum.
The Hoover Keymatic of the 1960's had only two speeds, but unusually did have an out of balance shut off - a lever inside connected to the main on-off switch protruded near the drum, so if the drum got off balance, the machine would turn off - you would actually see the red rocker switch flick over to "off" by itself. Re-starting was a matter of pressing the rocker back to on, and the motor would have to accelerate from rest to full spin speed with no distribute phase the second time, which put a huge strain on the motor. Fortunately Keymatics were cable suspended, and had a vey forgiving suspension, so only rarely got out of balance.
Chris.
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Post# 24221-11/17/2002-08:44 ||| cleanteamofny (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: Maytag (POD)
MESSAGE: The Maytag laundry girl looks so much like Reese Witherspoon.
She is legally blonde and always in fashion!
LINK: http://www.mgm.com/legallyblonde/
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Post# 24222-11/17/2002-09:01 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: ANOTHER BUG IN THE WORKS!~
MESSAGE: Cold water failed to close completely on Great Aunt Kenmore and caused a lazy stream to trickle over the side of the tub and wet the floor....good thing I still had the top off and was right there when it started happening.....Turned out to be another ugly bug, this time INSIDE the water inlet valve, between the black rubber diaphram and the sealing lips of the valve....I'll post photos later, as well as a reinactment of the cricket leg water diversion....
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Post# 24223-11/17/2002-09:20 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag (POD)
MESSAGE: Avocado green 'Tags, a fine 70s chick in a laundromat:
YEAH BABY!!!!
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Post# 24224-11/17/2002-09:23 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: ANOTHER BUG IN THE WORKS!~ (poor girl)
MESSAGE: Well, good thing you fixed her. Those early Kenmores are so interesting. They look so "primitive" compared to the later model belt drive Kenmores. The filler and the water level ball is different, but very cool.
Do those early machines make that cool "Grrrrind-click-clunk" like the later models?
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Post# 24225-11/17/2002-10:00 ||| chicapplis (illinois)
SUBJECT: blue mid 60s lady kenmore
MESSAGE: I don't know if anyone is interested but I saw a 60s blue Lady Kenmore dryer at a dealer that was in quite good condition. I know that he has had it for over a year. Its in the Milwaukee, WI area. E me if your interested I can give more details.
Love the Pic of Day. God Avacodo, I have yet to find Avacodo anything other than tupperware. love Vintage 70s'(& 80's)
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Post# 24226-11/17/2002-10:26 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: blue mid 60s lady kenmore (WOOHOO)
MESSAGE: Now you're talkin'. 60s and 70s design is my favorite also. I love gold and copper but avocado rules. I know lots of people hate avocado but I think it's just gr00vy baby.
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Post# 24227-11/17/2002-12:24 ||| chicapplis (illinois)
SUBJECT: watch what you say about crickets !
MESSAGE: I have pet tree frogs that live in my ficus trees(in a terrarium) and they eat live crickets (or crickis, as I call them) Although they are food, each batch has its own unique characteristic. They are family- for a while. Besides, I don't think I have ever seen a crick leg in an appli. i have seen elephant ear parts though. oy, what a mess that can make when it gets into a condenser fan.
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Post# 24228-11/17/2002-12:29 ||| chicapplis (illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: blue mid 60s lady kenmore (WOOHOO)
MESSAGE: yeh, but U live in Loisiana, Are you going to drive up here to get it. It snowed here last night, first this season. I could buy it and ship it. Do you want a picture?
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Post# 24229-11/17/2002-12:40 ||| chicapplis (illinois)
SUBJECT: This excitement is for everyone.
MESSAGE: I got today a batch of 80's vacuums electrolux, & kenmmore. Only 9 canisters, but 26 powerheads. For a petty amount. Dream situation a guy looking to liquidate or sell his business, and of course move to Arizona. Nice guy though. We went into his wharehouse in back and there sits all these machines. Canisters but mainly uprights. I'm only interested in canisters. Now I know that everyone in here has interests and is pursuing different "vintages"-styles, ages, colors, manufactures, and so forth. But the joy of finding that seemingly illusive ideal is universal, it just gives you this tickle from just below your heart, you know. So I share that joyess feeling with everyone, that you too will find that what makes you happy.
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Post# 24230-11/17/2002-19:08 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: BUGS!
MESSAGE: Here's a couple of photos showing the beetle bug that crawled into the water inlet valve of Great Aunt Kenmore...as well as an excellent example of open dating on appliance parts, and even a re-inactment of the cricket leg on the inlet screen scenario......
for your enjoyment.
PEACE.
BOB
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/VALVE/INDEX.htm
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Post# 24231-11/17/2002-19:51 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag (POD)
MESSAGE: THAT was the EXACT wasaher & color I had in my freshman dorm's laundry area in fall, 1973, at UT Austin. New dorm, it opened late 1969 or 1970.
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Post# 24232-11/17/2002-20:24 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: BUGS!
MESSAGE: Bob, ya'll seem to grow big ole crickets up there! I'd be afraid something with a leg like that could carry the cats away!
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Post# 24233-11/17/2002-22:34 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: blue mid 60s lady kenmore (WOOHOO)
MESSAGE: Jason, I don't remember if you ever said, but was your Mom's Kenmore 800 avacado?
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Post# 24234-11/18/2002-06:50 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: blue mid 60s lady kenmore (WOOHOO)
MESSAGE: No. It was white. But I'd take a Kenmore 800 in any color.
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Post# 24235-11/18/2002-06:52 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: POD - my grandma's dryer
MESSAGE: My grandma had the dryer in the POD until about 1978 when she got a lady Kenmore dryer. The dryer had rotary controls but it's electronic. It's not a "timer" it's more like a selector. The dryer is still running today. I wish that 60s Kenmore 70 series washer was still there.
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Post# 24236-11/18/2002-07:47 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - my grandma's dryer (SELECTOR, NOT A DIAL)
MESSAGE: The Gas dryer I use for the bulk of my drying is one of those Electronic models with the dial...It's my newest 'vintage' machine, at only 35 years of age, it still features spark ignition (as opposed to glow ignitors) and has a full console light as well as interior light, and hamper door. Dryness is determined by counting the number of times static discharges against an electronic sensor pad, located on the rear bulkhead of the dryer. In other words, this dryer thinks for itself, and eliminates all guesswork regarding length of drying time. This dryer also features soft heat, which means the actual size of the flame will change depending upon the demands of the heat load....towards the end of the drying process, the flame will actually reduce in size and power so as not to overdry permanent press items.....
This is no Norge Timeline dryer, that's for sure.
Also, the trick to changing the lint filter on a whirlpool/kenmore type dryer is to do it with the machine RUNNING ...this causes a strong down draft near the filter opening which can be used to 'vacuum' the lint away from the top by gently influencing the lint towards the opening by blowing...with your lips...then replace the filter, close the door, and there's no lint anywhere.
In a GE or a westinghouse dryer, the lint screen is in the door opening, and even when the filter is removed(where possible), some lint always remains in the door opening, right where you drag your clean clothes across removing them...sure to pick up the lint.
I much prefer the top mounted lint screen. There is never lint build up in the door opening.
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/CONTROL/INDEX.htm
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Post# 24237-11/18/2002-08:11 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - my grandma's dryer (SELECTOR, NOT A DIAL)
MESSAGE: Bob,
Interesting dryer setup. I have never seen the "static discharge" sensor system before. Do you feel it is better/worse than the "moisture" sensors more typical today? Would using dryer sheets (softner), or any softner, effect the sensor? Would there be any chance of damage from loose change or other metallic stuff bouncing off sensor?
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Post# 24238-11/18/2002-08:31 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - my grandma's dryer (STATIC SENSOR)
MESSAGE: The moisture sensors of more modern work exactly the same way.....not by feeling moisture, per say, but by feeling the number of times static discharges against a sensor....
Oh my goodness, it's againt the law to use dryer sheets, so I wouldn't think of using them in my dryer, but I did grow up using them in a 68 Lady Kenmore dryer (avacado), and they did not seem to affect the dryer's operation at all. Mom still has that dryer...Mom's 75 and the dryer is NEARLY half that.....
The problem with dryer sheets is that they deposit a sticky substance all over the inside of the dryer, which eventually builds up on the lint screen ( in a nearly imperceptible manner) and slows down the air flow...the same stickyness causes lint to build up inside the vent more quickly.
Liquid fabric softener is the way to go, as you also get the added benefit of superior rinsing. It also does a better job of 'lubricating' the fabric, which decreases wear & tear, and will never cause a problem with the dryer.
Of course, this is only my Opinion, based on learning gathered in the service field from thousands of house wives' experience, not just my own.
BOB
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Post# 24239-11/18/2002-08:34 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: dryer sheets
MESSAGE: Use of dryer sheets also quickly accelerates rusting inside dryers already missing the drum coating...
Mr. Garrison says...
'Dryer sheets are bad, mmmkay?'
BOB
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Post# 24240-11/18/2002-08:38 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag help (GE oil)
MESSAGE: I can attest that some GE's will weep oil slowly, much like a Kenmore will sometimes, but when the main oil seal blows on a GE, it is worse than the Exxon Valdes spill. Seems like gallons of that stuff is stored in that tranny and it goes everywhere, stains everything, and take a loooooong time to clean up!
-ph
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Post# 24241-11/18/2002-08:45 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: BUGS!
MESSAGE: You got to love those Camelback crickets! I have a crawlspace under the house with hurds of them in there. The ones that make it up into the house become cat toys, and then cat snacks, and I often find only the large legs lying at different places throughout the house. YUKKY!!!
-ph
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Post# 24242-11/18/2002-09:36 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - my grandma's dryer (SELECTOR, NOT A DIAL)
MESSAGE: Bob, I had the same model dryer you have. I finally used it for parts and still have the control panel if you want it.
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Post# 24243-11/18/2002-10:29 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - my grandma's dryer
MESSAGE: An aunt of mine had the top-loading version of this Westy. I never cared very much for top-loading Westys.
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Post# 24244-11/18/2002-11:34 ||| gwleong (California)
SUBJECT: Appliance Reviews
MESSAGE: Just wondering if anyone knows of a 'consumer reports'-like source for reading comparison tests on high end, commercial appliances. (i.e. Viking, Sub Zero, etc.)
Thanks.
Gary
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Post# 24245-11/18/2002-11:44 ||| Bendixman (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: dryer sheets (Dryer Sheets)
MESSAGE: Bob, I agree with you on the use of dryer sheets. I do laundry and lots of it. Over the years I have tried the dryer sheets and found that they coat the fabric and not really get into the fabric to soften them. I found that using the sheets made me itch but using liquid softener it's just fine and softens through & through. Back in 1974/75 I was using the Cling Free spray and it damaged the finish on my Whirlpool dryer. It caused it to pit and eventually rust. I ended up having to replace the drum, what a mess and unnecessary expense.
Bruce
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Post# 24246-11/18/2002-12:15 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - my grandma's dryer (Kenmore dryers)
MESSAGE: I hear ya! I have a GE dryer with the front mounted lint screen. I would love to find a 1970 Lady kenmore or Kenmore 800 dryer.
I know that spark sound well. The last time I heard the Kenmore gas dryer sound was only 2 years ago right before our 600(?) dryer almost caught on fire. I'll never forget those sounds.
You push the button and it goes:
"hummm (motor running) TICKTICKTICKTICKTICKTICKTICK CLICK! hummmmmm ... squeek squeek (the plastic rollers squeeked) hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... "
The fire goes out for a while to cool off and then when the fire came back on it was TICKTICKTICKTICKTICKTICKTICK CLICK! all over again.
The new Frigidaire my mom and dad has sounds so wimpy and cheap, it's like adding insult to injury.
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Post# 24247-11/18/2002-12:44 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - my grandma's dryer (POD Westinghouse Laundromat Pair/SELECTOR, NOT A DIAL (Number #2 Kenmore Dryer -- 1968))
MESSAGE: Imperial Bob:
I agree wholeheartedly when it comes to removing the lint from a GE or a Westinghouse dryer. My father has a late 1960's GE (Commercial) Dryer paired up with a late 1980's/early 1990's Kenmore D/D T/L Washer, and to think that everytime I visit home and have to do the laundry, I always have to check the lint filter first and if there is any lint left into the filter, I always clean the filter first thing before taking the clothes out of the washer and loading them into the dryer. Now, if he just had a Kenmore dryer, then that wouldn't even be an issue at all. The Westinghouse dryer that my aunt (which is his sister) had from 1970 until about 1984 was designed the same way. The lint filter was located in up front in front of the dryer instead of on the top, which was the way our Kenmore dryers were designed.
Jason:
I hear you!!!!! The Kenmore dryer that "Imperial Bob" has right now is one of my dream machines as well (check my profile....... there, you will see a long and extensive list as to what kind of vintage machines I would own if I had the space to put them..... and believe, it would be a lot of them). Only the Lady Kenmores from 1966-67, 1978, and 1989-99 would top it.
And one last question to anyone who is here at "classic appliances":
That Westinghouse pair that is featured on today's "POD", what year is that pair??? Right now, I am thinking 1963 to 1965. What do any of you think??
--Charles--
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Post# 24248-11/18/2002-15:41 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: ATTN: Jetcone
MESSAGE: You mailbox is giving "account is temporarily over quota" errors. Time to use that delete cycle...
-ph
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Post# 24249-11/18/2002-20:22 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Pump Repair Repercussions?
MESSAGE: Greg,
You were right about tightening up the center pump screw. After letting it sit for a while with WD-40 on it, I was able to back it up, remove and clean it. As Robert suggested, I applied Blue Lock-Tight (sp?) and securely replaced it. It certainly didn’t want to tighten up much more than the way I found it, but I got it as secure as I could. The machine sat overnight to let the screw/glue dry. I tried it this afternoon and it’s much quieter. And as you said, there is now not any free-play in the fan. Hopefully it will stay that way. The do-it-yourself cork template worked fine, and there is no leak from the bottom plate. However, did one problem lead to another? First I found a bit of water on the pump end, leaking from the tub drain hose that leads from the outer tub to the pump. Understandable after shaking around that old rubber hose. By the way, have you had to replace any of your interior hoses? I cut off a bit of the edge of old hose, cleaned it off, and reinstalled it pushed up a bit further with a new clamp. That now seems to be OK. After thoroughly drying it off, I ran it again, and now if looks like there might be a bit of water sitting on top of the base of the pump. I’m hoping it’s water that was flung off the fan or water remaining from draining the old hose, but I’m not sure. Please tell me it’s unlikely I’ve loosened up some seal now that will have to be replaced. I hope I'm just worrying too much. I just want to close up the back access opening on the washer and place it in its permanent spot, where it will stay! What sort of leak do you have in your machine? Thanks for all your help.
Ken
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Post# 24250-11/18/2002-21:00 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - my grandma's dryer (POD - Westinghouse Pair)
MESSAGE: You are about right on the dates of the POD pair. I have the service manual for both of these, but they are not dated anywhere. I have an ad for the top-loading washers from 1964 and these are from the same model year. I'm not sure when Westy went from slant-front machines to this straight front style, but it was also very close to this time as well. Tom told us at the convention that Westinghouse "caught hell" for this side swinging washer door from customers that had grown attached to the drop-down shelf and the loss of the Weigh-to-Save scale. This model dryer had a standard timed cycle with two temperature selections. The next model up from this one had the cycling-thermostat auto-dry feature that Westy had been using from the beginning of their dryer production in the 1940's.
The link is to a small picture in the wanted/reward section of the top-loading washer of the same vintage. I want one of these!
LINK: http://www.classicappliances.com/WANTED/WANTED%20WESTINGHOUSE/Westinghouse-Wanted.jpg
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Post# 24251-11/18/2002-21:09 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Pump Repair Repercussions?
MESSAGE: Congratulations - so far! It sounds like you had good success with your repair endeavors Sunday. Once everything is dry down there, run the washer again through another cycle and check the top of the pump again for water. I have a steady trickle of water from the top of the pump in my WO-65 - I had the same symptom in the '55 and it needed a new pump seal.
I know how you feel about getting it back together and installed, but unfortunately, old washers are a labor of love sometimes and they need more "nursing" for a while to get them running just right. Keep up the good work, it sounds like you are doing very well with it!
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Post# 24252-11/18/2002-22:31 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: '53whirlpoolwasher with new paint
MESSAGE: sorry for the delays on getting these photos out here, thanks for your patience, hope you like :) ......
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gregm978/vwp?.dir=/More+apps&.src=ph&.dnm=WhirlpoolWasher%2753.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gregm978/lst%3f%26.dir=/More%2bapps%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 24253-11/18/2002-22:34 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: latest AC find
MESSAGE: model #, and serial unreadable, anybody know what year??, it works great and is in very good shape, 6,000 BTU's....
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gregm978/vwp?.dir=/More+apps&.dnm=FeddersAC.jpg&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gregm978/vwp%3f.dir=/More%2bapps%26.dnm=WhirlpoolWasher%252753-2.jpg%26.src=ph
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Post# 24254-11/19/2002-01:16 ||| dalangdon (Seattle, WA)
SUBJECT: Today's POD
MESSAGE: WOW! Love today's pic! That's my kind of Washer/Dryer.... AND it's approved for a Medallion Home!
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Post# 24255-11/19/2002-06:14 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: '53whirlpoolwasher with new paint (What a Collection!)
MESSAGE: Greg,
Thanks for the pictures!
Your machines look great!
Brent
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Post# 24256-11/19/2002-06:19 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: latest AC find (Early 80's)
MESSAGE: Greg,
I had this same model air-conditioner when I was in college. I bought it for a room that I rented in a home. It was a great air-conditioner. I bought it from a store that had never sold it, and it was in the box. They gave me a really good deal on it. The one that I had looked just like yours. It was made in 1982. I remember that date on the box.
Brent
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Post# 24257-11/19/2002-06:21 ||| cleanteamofny (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: Whirlpool Electronic Control Machines
MESSAGE: These are a beauty!
These machines came out about a year right behind Sears 1st Electronic control washer/dryer which HQOT's has in his collection.
http://bellsouthpwp.net/d/u/dumontj/limited.html
Nice pair for the price and also there is a pink maytag gas dryer on sale.....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2072351298
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2073058337
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Post# 24258-11/19/2002-06:53 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD (and I got to play with one)
MESSAGE: There's a GE washer like that in white in John's museum. I plugged it in and made it spin. I have video of it.
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Post# 24259-11/19/2002-07:21 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Pump Repair Repercussions? (update)
MESSAGE: Greg,
I ran the machine this morning. My hose fix worked. The pump looked dry, but it looks like there's a slow drip about an inch away from the pump onto the outer tub drain hose from directly above it. It's definitely coming from somewhere in the outer tub. I felt above it onto the trans. but felt nothing wet. I'm hoping it's not a leak due to tub seal strain. The Unimatic trans. was in fact supported by two Jetcones when I was working on it, as you suggested to avoid any strain damage. I'll check it further after work today.
Ken
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Post# 24260-11/19/2002-07:35 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: '53whirlpoolwasher with new paint
MESSAGE: Wow - that is a beauty! Congrats on getting it done!
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Post# 24261-11/19/2002-08:40 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD (and I got to play with one)
MESSAGE: Beautiful GE set. The timer control looks like it has alot of blank space on it with no desgination for spin & rinse. The aqua topped agitator (activator in GE lingo) is the same as the one on my old 55. Love the pink!
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Post# 24262-11/19/2002-08:47 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: POD
MESSAGE: Love it! Very close to Mom's set. Her's had more option switches on both w/d. But they were the same Pink.
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Post# 24263-11/19/2002-09:49 ||| JoeEkaitis (Rialto, California, USA)
SUBJECT: Tuesday, Sept 19 Picture of the Day
MESSAGE: Yeah! Yeah! More Pepto-Bismol Pink appliances!
(Did GE have some kind of special deal with the makers of Pepto-Bismol?) :)
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Post# 24264-11/19/2002-11:26 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Tuesday, Sept 19 Picture of the Day (in the pink)
MESSAGE: I think GE had Petal Pink.
Maytag was Mayfair Pink, wasn't it?
-ph
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Post# 24265-11/19/2002-11:26 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Tuesday, Sept 19 Picture of the Day
MESSAGE: Three cheers for GE pink and Maytag sunny yellow!
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Post# 24266-11/19/2002-11:49 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: POD
MESSAGE: It does give new meaning to the phrase "Pretty in Pink"!
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Post# 24267-11/19/2002-11:50 ||| joeekaitis (Rialto, California, USA)
SUBJECT: RCA Whirlpool Zero Gravity Food Preparation System
MESSAGE: (as seen in "2001: A Space Odyssey")
Since it bore the RCA Whirlpool trademark, would that make it a classic appliance?
Just wondering. :)
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Post# 24268-11/19/2002-13:02 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: PINK GAS MAYTAG SRYER ON EBAY!
MESSAGE: Hi Everyone!
Just noticed a pink gas Maytag dryer on ebay. Here's the address: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2072351298 If you like gas dryers, this is surely a great one to match that pink washer! Mark
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Post# 24269-11/19/2002-13:06 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: EASY WRINGER WASHER ON EBAY!
MESSAGE: Hi Everyone!
Just found an EASY WRINGER washer on ebay and thought you all might want to take a look! Mark http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2072277924
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Post# 24270-11/19/2002-15:59 ||| JOESPLACE (col,oh)
SUBJECT: gansky1
MESSAGE: HELLO
IM NOT SURE WHERE TO START. I WORK AT A APPLIANCE RECYCLE CENTER & ALOT OF GREAT CLASSIC APPPLIANCES COME THROUGH THERE .
IM NOT SURE WHAT TO LOOK FOR .JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING IS OLD DOESNT MAKE IT VALUABLE. IM NOT REAL SURE HOW TO READ THE DATES .I HAVE BROUGHT SEVERAL UNITS HOME & HAVE SOLD 1 . ANYWAY ANY & ALL HELP WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED
THANKS JOE
Y.GROVE@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Post# 24271-11/19/2002-16:09 ||| JOESPLACE (col,oh)
SUBJECT: WESTINGHOUSE FRIG J-6-40
MESSAGE: ANYONE IN OH. INTERSETED IN A WESTINGHOUSE FRIG MODLE # J-6-40 SER # WA941970 NEEDS SHELVES LET ME KNOW PRIOR TO FRI MORN UNIT IS AT WORK IF INTERESTED ILL BRING HOME -THANKS JOE
Y.GROVE@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Post# 24272-11/19/2002-17:09 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - my grandma's dryer (POD - Westinghouse Pair)
MESSAGE: Gansky1:
Okay..... so I was right head on about the model year of these Westys being from the early 1960's then.
I think that Westinghouse did catch some hell during that time just because they decided to go with the "swing door" arrangement instead of sticking to the "drop down door" and do away with the "weigh-to-save" scale as well. And besides, I have always thought that the doors on those machines have looked funny and downright ugly anyway. But then after that, it looked like Westinghouse listened for a while after that. Because they seem to have brought those back in the 1970's. Back then, not only did the front loaders go back to the "drop door" arrangement, but they also brought back the "weigh-to-save" feature as well. I think that the "weigh-to-save" feature was featured on the front loaders and on the TOL top loaders as well.
Now that I have elaborated on the features that one would typically find on a Westinghouse washer, I would like to take another minute to ask this question as well.
(01). What does a Westinghouse front loader tend to do when they break down and malfunction??? And how often??
(02). What part(s) of a Westinghouse front loader typically fail that causes the washer to break down and malfunction??? How often does this happen???? And what kind of signs or signals I should/would watch out for????
The reason I am asking these two questions because back in 1974, when I was living in Columbia, South Carolina as a child, I did see a front loading Westinghouse washer (with the swing door on it) sitting outside on a carport for a long time for the trash people to pick it up??? After a while, it was finally hauled away. The washer that I am decribing is also from that era, and is of that vintage.
This question is being asked to everyone here at "classic appliances".
Thanks.....
--Charles--
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Post# 24273-11/19/2002-18:19 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: gansky1 (I have a request!)
MESSAGE: Do you think that you could look for any G.M. Frigidaire Pulsator washer? I woud love one! I live in Ann Arbor, MI
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Post# 24274-11/19/2002-18:32 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: WESTHINGHOUSE BREAKDOWNS
MESSAGE: In the service field, I changed quite a few water pumps on those machines....
also, hauled plenty of coinage out of the sump - coins get in between the outer and inner tubs and do damage to the tumbling veins by breaking off the ears that hold them to the tub, jamming against the two tubs during spin - this makes a banging, popping kind of sound during spin...
Also changed out plenty of door boots, and did plenty of rear pulley lubrication, especially on the helical spring and the roller bearings in the potato pulley (tumble pulley). Of course it's normal for the belts (especially the spin belt ) to need changing occasionally, and the spin change pulley goes bad pretty regularly, often enough that most service companies carry the split pulley on the service trucks...
How's that for starters.....
Of course, they are subject to the same water inlet woes that other washers get...stuck valve, failure to stop the water from flowing into the machine.
Very seldom do westinghouse motors, or timers ever go bad. It's also rare for the rear bearing to go bad, although it's not too difficult to change out if it's caught in time. When the rear bearing begins to go bad, the machine will sound like a freight train when it goes into spin (loud loud loud).
What type of breakdown are you looking forward to having, ChaskellJr2? I'm right here in the next city over ready to help you get the thing back together, if you need help.....
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Post# 24275-11/19/2002-18:42 ||| dalangdon (Seattle, WA)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire Cyclamatics
MESSAGE: Hey Everybody,
There's a Frigidaire Cyclamatic on eBay. I've never seen one of those, and couldn't find anything on Google. Anybody have any pics of these (the eBay offer didn't have any pics)
Thanks!
d
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Post# 24276-11/19/2002-19:46 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Cyclamatics
MESSAGE: Sad to say that the only Frigidaire Cycla-Matic I ever saw was a refrigerator. There is one of those on ebay now - I believe it is a 1953 model.....
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Post# 24277-11/19/2002-20:03 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Cyclamatics
MESSAGE: Yes, "Cycla-matic" has to do only with refrigerators, I believe. I think it has something to do with automatic defrosting of the refrigerator section (you still have to defrost the freezer). (I've never grasped this concept; were there refrigerators at one time where both the refrigerator and freezer had to be manually defrosted?)
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Post# 24278-11/19/2002-20:29 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: ATTN: Jetcone (Thanks Peter!!!)
MESSAGE: Yes I guess I messed upmy settings and clogged the system! All the decks are clear now let em rip!!
jet
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Post# 24279-11/19/2002-20:32 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Pump Repair Repercussions? (next repair)
MESSAGE: Greg,
I tried running the machine again tonight. The pump seems to be completely dry, however water is still slowly dripping from above. This only happens during the water spin-out. Using a flashlight and mirror to see where the leak came from, I saw it was dripping from just one of the eight or so of the major screw threads above. Can I access the area on the other side of the outer tub if I remove the top of the washer? Or am I looking for more trouble with seals if I take it off? Anything to be especially careful about when removing the top? Obviously the two screw on the front surface of the top come off. The only other connection seems to be the rear two screw bolts. Right?? Just lift it off? I figured if I could reach the screw that was leaking from above, I could apply some silicone sealer or something similar.
Advice again would be appreciated.
Ken
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Post# 24280-11/19/2002-20:53 ||| JGP57 (dearborn michigan)
SUBJECT: WOOHOO
MESSAGE: I LOVE TO SAY WOOHOO.HOW ARE ALL OF YOU GUYS IN APPLIANCE VILLE?MANY GREAT POD LOVE ANY THING IN PINK. JGP57
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Post# 24281-11/19/2002-21:30 ||| Pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: gansky1 (I have a request!)
MESSAGE: I have a poppy red GM Frigidare in excellent condition, both visually and working wise, circa 1976? I think, it is a WC-DT, has the graphic water level dial, as well as the dial for 4 wash/rinse temps, dial for normal wash/normal spin and gentle wash/gentle spin, and the main dial with Soak cycle, Regular+santize,and Permanent Press. I must tell, you this machine is in excellent shape, with very little use, so it won't go cheap, or for parts.
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Post# 24282-11/19/2002-22:06 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: gansky1 (I have a request!)
MESSAGE: Pturo, are you *really* sure you want to give up this machine, rather than, perhaps, moving it to your main home as you suggested recently? This is a real gem! You could take the BOL Maytag to your 2nd home, and just swap?
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Post# 24283-11/19/2002-23:39 ||| chicapplis (illinois)
SUBJECT: GE filterflo
MESSAGE: I've heard alot about ge filter flo washers from the 50s or 60s. was there something different about them compared to those in the 70s and after? I noticed in some pics that the spout was in the center back as apposed to off to the right. When did they start with filter flo.
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Post# 24284-11/19/2002-23:44 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Pump Repair Repercussions? (update)
MESSAGE: Ken, good luck on this. I've kept up with the sage, of course. I know you'll get to the source eventually!!!! Bob
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Post# 24285-11/19/2002-23:48 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: '53whirlpoolwasher with new paint
MESSAGE: Great job Greg!!!!! Bob
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Post# 24286-11/19/2002-23:56 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: WOOHOO
MESSAGE: JGP57, glad to see ya. You haven't posted much. Hope all is well. Bob
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Post# 24287-11/20/2002-00:01 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: GE filterflo
MESSAGE: Steve, I believe the Filter-Flo started in 1955, if not, then 1956 models. The early filter-flo machihnes were solid-tub machines and the filtering system only worked with a full wash load/high water level. When GE came out with the perforated tub design in 1960 theat changed the function and the filter-flo system worked at all water levels. A neighbor had one of the first perforated tub machiness in either 1960 or 1961 and the filetr spout was still on the back. But about 1962 or 63, the spout was changed to the more right back side.
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Post# 24288-11/20/2002-00:01 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: GE filterflo
MESSAGE: Steve, I believe the Filter-Flo started in 1955, if not, then 1956 models. The early filter-flo machihnes were solid-tub machines and the filtering system only worked with a full wash load/high water level. When GE came out with the perforated tub design in 1960 theat changed the function and the filter-flo system worked at all water levels. A neighbor had one of the first perforated tub machiness in either 1960 or 1961 and the filetr spout was still on the back. But about 1962 or 63, the spout was changed to the more right back side.
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Post# 24289-11/20/2002-06:03 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: gansky1 (I have a request!)
MESSAGE: Am I losing my mind or haven't we been down this road before? As I remember the last installment of this ongoing story, first there was the possibility of trading a used Maytag Neptune for this machine, then I heard that someone offered $450. for this machine. I assumed that by now "someone" had already snapped this up. But now it appears that it is still available. So I feel like I am missing part of the story.
I suppose now is a good time for me to throw my $.02 into the ring. Is it for sale, or up for bid? If for sale, then what is the actual price? "It won't go for cheap" isn't really informative - but seems to indicate that the machine is really up for bid. And I should hope that no one in their right mind would get this machine just to cannibalize it for parts. It's bad enough that some of us who would love one of these machines in working order will probably never have one since it appears that only a few can afford to get into bidding wars. Ripping a working machine up for parts would be criminal!!!!
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Post# 24290-11/20/2002-06:06 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: gansky1 (I have a request!)
MESSAGE: I forgot that moving the Maytag was also an option. See, I guess I am missing parts of the saga.......
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Post# 24291-11/20/2002-07:08 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Tuesday, Sept 19 Picture of the Day (in the pink)
MESSAGE: GE was Petal Pink
Frigidaire was Mayfair Pink
Maytag just called it 'Pink' from what I can find
Hotpoint was Coral Pink
Bendix had Pastel Pink
Kelvinator was Bermuda Pink
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Post# 24292-11/20/2002-07:13 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: gansky1
MESSAGE: Hi Joe -
Any GM Frigidaire laundry would be of interest, but any old (50's - 60's) washers & dryers of many brands might have takers. Some to look for would be the list in the Wanted/Reward section as well as most any machines from the more rare brands like Bendix & Philco/Bendix, Kelvinator, ABC-o-Matic, etc.
Thank you for keeping your eyes peeled for us - we do appreciate your efforts!!
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Post# 24293-11/20/2002-07:17 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Tuesday, Sept 19 Picture of the Day (Pink Floyd)
MESSAGE: What was the Kenmore pink called?
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Post# 24294-11/20/2002-07:19 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: WESTHINGHOUSE BREAKDOWNS
MESSAGE: On the older 2 belt Westy washers, the speed changer was a bit of a trouble spot as well - in addition to the normal problems, water valves, etc. that are common on all washers. The older dryers were driven by friction wheels that wear out.
Westinghouse was one of few companies that I've seen that had specific service info for repairing their timers, I have several books for different "eras" of Westy timer servicing. Most other brands just called for replacement of bad timers rather than servicing them.
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Post# 24295-11/20/2002-07:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Cyclamatics
MESSAGE: Right - the Cycla-Matic was only refrigerators and it was a scheme to keep frost from building up on the secondary evaporator in the refrigerator section. The "defrost cycle" was really little more than a higher (36F) temp setting on the thermostat and began with the 1952 models. The refrigerator would not cycle on again until the interior temp of the refrigerator section reached 36 degrees ensuring that all the frost had melted from the evaporator coils. Even with the higher refrigerator temp of 36, the temp in the freezer would remain constant. Some of the Imperial models had a bi-metal switch connected to the interior light circuit that would turn on the compressor system if the door were left open for any period of time to ensure the temp in the freezer section would not get too high.
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Post# 24296-11/20/2002-07:31 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Tuesday, Sept 19 Picture of the Day (Pink Floyd)
MESSAGE: The best of all the names!
Candy Pink!!
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Post# 24297-11/20/2002-07:40 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Pump Repair Repercussions? (next repair)
MESSAGE: You might be able to stop the leak from below with silicone, but this will only prolong and probably worsen the problem over time. If the water is getting that far now, it will still probably seep under the top of the mechanism support and possibly cause corrosion and rust of the structure of the cabinet around the support.
Removing the top is somewhat involved, you first have to remove the timer/controls from the panel and remove the water-fill hose. Once you get that done, you can remove the top and try to seal the leaky screw top from above. When replacing the top, use 'closed cell' foam on top of the (cleaned) rubber edge seal to ensure a good water seal between the cabinet sides and top.
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Post# 24298-11/20/2002-07:42 ||| Frigilux (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: What Do You Call A Pink Kenmore?
MESSAGE: I believe pink Kenmores were called Candy Pink.
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Post# 24299-11/20/2002-07:44 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GE filterflo
MESSAGE: I think the filter flo was around 1955 or 56. Until 1961, GE washers were solid basket machines (no holes) and used a system of overflow and a sediment hole in the bottom to get the recirculation for the filter flo. In 1961, GE introduced their perforated basket washers and shortly after that, moved the filter spout to the familiar 1 o'clock postion.
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Post# 24300-11/20/2002-07:56 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: HOW ABOUT WESTINGHOUSE PINK - CONFECTION COLORS
MESSAGE: Westinghouse had what they called 'confection colors' which all had food in their names....
Westinghouse called it 'FROSTING PINK', the color of my space mate washer,
as in to frost a cake, pink....
Yellow was called 'LEMON YELLOW', as is my roll out dishwasher ('59 Westinghouse roll-out)
there was 'NOUGAT GRAY', and 'SUGAR WHITE',
and the color of my space mate dryer 'MINT AQUA' green, and there was an even darker blue color called 'WINTERGREEN'.
Doesn't that make you hungry? Well have an AVOCADO (oh, that came later).
BOB
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/hipster.JPG
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Post# 24301-11/20/2002-08:29 ||| Radiobill1966 (Indianapolis, IN)
SUBJECT: RE: HOW ABOUT WESTINGHOUSE PINK - CONFECTION COLORS (Transistor set)
MESSAGE: Okay, you've got my curiosity piqued--just saw your link and I gotta know what brand and model transistor set you have slung on your shoulder.
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Post# 24302-11/20/2002-08:37 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: HOW ABOUT WESTINGHOUSE PINK - CONFECTION COLORS (Transistor set 2-TRACK PLAYTAPE HIPSTER)
MESSAGE: Good eye! That's a 1966-67 Playtape Hipster 2-track loop tape player and AM radio....designed to provide freedom for music lovers....
I definately am also into vintage electronics, and especially anything ever designed to re-create music....
THANKS FOR NOTICING!
BOB
That's also my old '53 Whirlpool to the left of the photo, not particularly looking like she needed new paint.....
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Post# 24303-11/20/2002-08:40 ||| Radiobill1966 (Indianapolis, IN)
SUBJECT: RE: HOW ABOUT WESTINGHOUSE PINK - CONFECTION COLORS (Paint)
MESSAGE: On the subject of paint--what do you guys normally use to repaint? Acrylic urethane (basecoat/clearcoat as used on cars), acrylic enamel, spray bomb?
Bill
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Post# 24304-11/20/2002-09:00 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE filterflo
MESSAGE: Coin-op GE's were built backward to allow front servicing. So the water spout for the Filter-Flo is at 7 o'clock.
-ph
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Post# 24305-11/20/2002-09:15 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: HOW ABOUT WESTINGHOUSE PINK - CONFECTION COLORS (Paint)
MESSAGE: Paint is really very subjective. It's only important, really , to keep the steel from rusting. That's what it's actually there for....Secondly, it's nice if it looks well, too...
Paint is one of those things which IS NOT Permanent. It can always be re-painted, regardless. In fact, we should all hope to live so long as to see our machines need 2 0r 3 paint jobs .....Paint can be rolled on, brushed on, sprayed on, or sponged on... it really doesn't matter... No matter what you do, you cannot please all the people all the time....
Just make sure the paint job you have PLEASES YOU, and don't worry a thing about what other people think. I prefer to use APPLIANCE EPOXY paint, in a spray can, or at the very least, a RUSTOLEUM paint.
I like my machines to be fully covered, and to photograph well, which doesn't nescessarily mean they have factory grade paint jobs on them....but they usually look pretty from any distance...as do humans...the closer you get, the more pores and folicles you'll see which may not be as attractive, but so it goes....We cannot all have porcelain skin.....But the paint is only the face 'makeup' on the old girls, and can always be redone if you don't like the results..
I, personally, try not to get paint on places where it shouldn't be, however, like the tops of the appliance feet (legs). They were NEVER painted, and look really QUEER in a photo when they are....Details like this do make a difference.
Of course, that's only my OPINION, anyway.
BOB
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Post# 24306-11/20/2002-10:25 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Tuesday, Sept 19 Picture of the Day (Pink Floyd)
MESSAGE: I believe it was called "Harmony House Candy Pink". I think Harmony House was a name they had for their paints, and I think all this stuff was supposed to blend with similar paint colors you could get.
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Post# 24307-11/20/2002-10:34 ||| chicapplis (illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: HOW ABOUT WESTINGHOUSE PINK - CONFECTION COLORS (speaking of colors)
MESSAGE: I am under the impression that there was an equivalent to Almond in the 60s but it was called something other. And that there has been sometype of off-white all through the 70s. I had a frigidaire refrigerator once supposedly from the early 70s,according to Frigidaire-1972. But they weren't sure. They said it could also have been from 1988, which by its design could not have been.
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Post# 24308-11/20/2002-11:19 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: GE filterflo (GE Filterflo)
MESSAGE: It was 55. I had that machine. There is a pic of a matching 55 dryer at "Pumper"'s Phoenix appliance graveyard link. Click on Image 027.
The washer had a black solid tub with white specs, black straight-vane agitator with an aqua top where the filter pan fit and a lighted dial with two cycles - "normal" in black letters and "short" in red letters.
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Post# 24309-11/20/2002-12:02 ||| korpben2000 (warren,pa)
SUBJECT: Battle of the Washing machines
MESSAGE: I think that Maytag made a great washer and got clothes clean as well.but nothing is better than a kelvinator
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Post# 24310-11/20/2002-12:40 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Tuesday, Sept 19 Picture of the Day (Candy Pink)
MESSAGE: That's because Kenmores are such sweet machines.
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Post# 24311-11/20/2002-12:45 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Battle of the Washing machines (Frigidaire?)
MESSAGE: Kelvy and Frigidaire (GM made) are both fun machines. I'd say the Frig rinsed and cleaned a little better but the Kelvy was even more gentle and cleaned just as well. Maybe some of us who have both machines can do a comparison?
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Post# 24312-11/20/2002-14:33 ||| spiralator60 (Los Angeles, California)
SUBJECT: Picture of the Day - Tide
MESSAGE: It's great to see the old detergent ads, as they seemed to say more about what the product actually did, compared to today's ads. Does any one know what sample product Philco put into its front-loading machines? Dash first comes to mind, as does All.
Darryl
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Post# 24313-11/20/2002-18:37 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: What Do You Call A Pink Kenmore?
MESSAGE: Yes, it was indeed Candy Pink. My mother always got a big kick out of the fact that she went for a color with that name in 1958.....
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Post# 24314-11/20/2002-18:39 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: GE filterflo
MESSAGE: So that explains the unusual position of the filter flo spout.....
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Post# 24315-11/20/2002-19:02 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: What Do You Call A Pink Kenmore?
MESSAGE: Did she have a pink Sears washer? LK? Why did I think you had a Philco, but maybe I was thinking of someone else, LOL.
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Post# 24316-11/20/2002-19:10 ||| chicapplis (illinois)
SUBJECT: blue 60s lady kenmore
MESSAGE: shopping today and saw that mid 60s med blue Lady Kenmore dryer 800, its in good condition considering the age. Also saw one of those white GE 50s rounded edge single door refrigerators. The drawers were metal. Would be happy to help anyone interested in aquiring them.
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Post# 24317-11/20/2002-19:31 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: blue 60s lady kenmore (Kenmore)
MESSAGE: Please make sure Jason knows about the LK 800 as he has been lusting after a set of these! Mark
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Post# 24318-11/20/2002-19:51 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Battle of the Washing machines
MESSAGE: Everybody has their favorites! I remember my Grandmother (in the early 60's) cussing her Frigidaire because it tangled clothes so badly. I also remember her re-washing sheets and dress shirts because they would tangle up and not come real clean in sections. My other Grandmother had a maytag that she never complained about even once! I liked the Frigidaire better since you could see the action. The Maytag had those blasted mercury switches and no matter how fast I raised the lid, I couldn't see a thing. I always liked Maytag better than anything else because they were so easy to repair, compaired to the Frigidaire, and belt drive Kenmore/Whirlpool machines. My Aunt Jane had a Kelvinator. When she went to replace it in the 80's and they were no longer making the centric action agitator, I suggested she buy a Maytag. The Maytag lasted almost a week in her house. She raised such hell, the dealer was happy and relieved to take it back, and bring her old Kelvinator back that had been somehow magically repaired! When she died several years ago, I went looking for that washer but my cousins said that she couldn't get it repaired the last time it needed it and traded it in on a Frigidaire 1-18. I don't know if the Frigidaire was used or new as it was history too by the time I checked into it. It was still in the basement, and stupidly I didn't grab it. Gone now. She was using a 21 pound Norge with the matching dryer that had to be repaired at least once a year according to her kids. I still like the solid tub washers of any make though, since all the wash action is kept in the tub! Clothes just seem to come cleaner. Mark
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Post# 24319-11/20/2002-20:17 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: 1952 Whirlpool dryer, starting at 50 cents!
MESSAGE: A working 1952 Whirlpool dryer! Wow! It is was running well ( I am sure someone could fix it and give it a new paint job!)and is starting at 50 cents! You gotta see this! It is located in Minneapolis!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2073885322&category=20714
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Post# 24320-11/20/2002-20:25 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: 1952 Whirlpool dryer, starting at 50 cents! (I hope that someone gets it! Greg X2, Robert, Scott?)
MESSAGE: Jamie,
Thanks for that link! That is a very nice dryer!
Greg, (either of you) why don't you get it! You both do so well with restoring and painting appliances!
It is a gem!
I will not suprise me if it goes for over a grand!
Brent
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Post# 24321-11/20/2002-20:27 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Battle of the Washing machines (Great Story Mark!)
MESSAGE: I loved your story about your Grandmother. Shame that you could not save her machines.
I love how her Kelvinator was "fixed" just one week later. I wonder if they told her that it could not be fixed, and she had to replace it! Sounds like she was a smart ole dame, and was better at their game!
Thanks for sharing.
Brent
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Post# 24322-11/20/2002-20:59 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: '53whirlpoolwasher with new paint (thanks)
MESSAGE: thank you BOB !!!
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Post# 24323-11/20/2002-21:22 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: GE filterflo
MESSAGE: Wow Peter, I NEVER saw a GE coin-op until the late 60s. Far out,m 7 o'clock!!!
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Post# 24324-11/20/2002-21:50 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: HOW ABOUT WESTINGHOUSE PINK - CONFECTION COLORS (speaking of colors)
MESSAGE: I think you are right about the almond of the 60's. I seem to remember it being called doeskin and it was a little darker than the almond we know today.
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Post# 24325-11/20/2002-21:57 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: HOW ABOUT WESTINGHOUSE PINK - CONFECTION COLORS (speaking of colors)
MESSAGE: Yes, and Frigidaire had their version of it, which I believe they called "Honey Beige". I don't know if doeskin was Whirlpool or GE's name, but both of them had a version of it.
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Post# 24326-11/20/2002-21:58 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Battle of the Washing machines (Battle of the Washing machines)
MESSAGE: Hi Mark,
This is a great story - I wish we could repair all those great washers - I hope you are doing well
Peter
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Post# 24327-11/20/2002-22:40 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Great video Jason!
MESSAGE: Jason, I finally viewed the second video after having saved it several days ago. It is another wonderful piece of work! We are very fortunate to have this living memory of the convention! Scott
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Post# 24328-11/20/2002-22:40 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: HOW ABOUT WESTINGHOUSE PINK - CONFECTION COLORS (speaking of colors)
MESSAGE: Then there was "Toast" in the '80s, and let's not forget "Platinum."
I saw the new Whirlpools at Sears a few days ago, in some sort of gray. What's the official name of that color?
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Post# 24329-11/20/2002-22:42 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Great video Jason!
MESSAGE: Yay!
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Post# 24330-11/21/2002-00:34 ||| korpben2000 (warren,pa)
SUBJECT: Washer Comparison
MESSAGE: Yes Kelvinator are cool washers and get clothes really clean,so do Maytags and many others.But i like all of them no matter what like GE,Whirlpool,etc.
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Post# 24331-11/21/2002-02:03 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: Wig wag not moving?!!
MESSAGE: Hiya,
I sold one of my dd machines tonight and the lady was chucking a mid 80's belt driven whirlpool, got it home plugged it in and all it can do is drain, looked at the wigwag, but then i noticed the thing doesn't move when the machine is on, I did get it to spin by engaging the cam gear but alas i guess the tranny is toast, anyone know where i can get a gearcase for el cheapo or how hard it is to openup/fix this one?
~S
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Post# 24332-11/21/2002-05:38 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: What Do You Call A Pink Kenmore?
MESSAGE: Yes, she had a pink Lady Kenmore - I am guessing it was dated around 1959. Growing up I had two friends who had Philco washers in their houses. One had a 1961 Miss America and the other had the 1967 Custom Imperial.
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Post# 24333-11/21/2002-05:45 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Battle of the Washing machines
MESSAGE: Great story, Mark - and how lucky for Aunt Jane that the dealer still had the Kelvinator when she went back for it. Just out of curiosity, why did she hate the Maytag so? I suspect it had something to do with washing ability, no??
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Post# 24334-11/21/2002-06:22 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: 1952 Whirlpool dryer, starting at 50 cents!
MESSAGE: Robert, you should buy this since it's in your area and then you would have the matching dryer to your 52 washer.
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Post# 24335-11/21/2002-06:44 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: Appliances in their New Home
MESSAGE: Hi All, Cleaned out my storage unit and brought the rest of my keepers to my new house. One of the washers that has a key place in my shop is my 1959 Dexter Automatic w/ Programmed Formula PushButtons.....sent pics of it to Greg Nunn to post in the club. Let me know what you think! I LOVE this washer........
Scrapped out several old machines I had been keeping for parts, there just was no room for them. It always breaks your heart a little to see them go,.........
Sold my 1-18 Frigidaire set in Avocado to Todd from New Orleans. At least they are staying in the club. That made room for my 1955 Unimatic set. Out with the new and in with the old!
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Post# 24336-11/21/2002-06:52 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Appliances in their New Home (Sounds like you are having fun!)
MESSAGE: Jimmy,
Sounds like you are having a great time!
Can't wait to see the pictures that you sent to Greg.
Best of luck with your move.
Brent
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Post# 24337-11/21/2002-06:54 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD (Lesto, where did it go?)
MESSAGE: The aqua topped agitator (activator in GE lingo) is the same as the one on my old 55. Love the pink!
Les,
Do you still have this machine?
If not, what did you do with it?
Brent
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Post# 24338-11/21/2002-07:15 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Appliances in their New Home (WOOHOO!!!)
MESSAGE: Avocado 1-18s in the Land of Rust! The 2nd Land Of Rust wash-in will happen soon thereafter.
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Post# 24339-11/21/2002-08:51 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD (Lesto, where did it go?)
MESSAGE: I wish I still had it but alas I don't. When my Mom was getting ready to sell her house and move to a smaller condo several years ago she sold alot of stuff at a garage sale and donated other items to some Goodwill type place. The 55 GE was one of the items she got rid of before she moved. The tranny was bad. It would no longer spin. Of course, if this great club had been around I would have found a place to store it and gotten him up and running again. She also got rid of a mid or late 1940's Ironrite machine and a vintage 1952 Deering window unit air conditioner - both of which still worked. I was heartbroken.
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Post# 24340-11/21/2002-09:22 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Battle of the Washing machines
MESSAGE: She said she loaded it and set it to wash. Went back a few minutes later and there were no suds, and the detergent was still at the top of the load and nothing seemed to be moving at all. She NEVER took my advice on washers again!
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Post# 24341-11/21/2002-09:51 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT: POD...early 60's?
MESSAGE: When did Norge stop making laundry equipment? Where they bought out by another company? Seems like I can vaguely remember hearing the name as a kid(born 4-17-62) I haven't seen much interest in them here after the early 60's. Did the product performance decline as the eighties aproached like so many?
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Post# 24342-11/21/2002-10:12 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT: RE: Appliances in their New Home (Will there be a link posted?)
MESSAGE: I'd love to see the photos of the Dexter. will they be posted somewhere here on the site or in a Yahoo briefcase?
Thanks!
Duane
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Post# 24343-11/21/2002-10:33 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD...early 60's?
MESSAGE: See post 23483. Maytag now owns the Norge name. The same basic design lives on in the current Maytag line.
-ph
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Post# 24344-11/21/2002-10:58 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Battle of the Washing machines
MESSAGE: Reminds me of a comment from an appliance dealer years ago. He told me that the older Maytags lasted forever because they didn't do much of anything. Even Consumer Reports mentioned in a long ago issue on washing machine ratings that Maytag once again topped the ratings - - not because of superior performance, but because they lacked some of the shortcomings of more "vigorously operating" brands.........
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Post# 24345-11/21/2002-11:39 ||| Frigilux (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: Kelvinator vs. Maytag
MESSAGE: lightedcontrols--- (re: your Grandmother's washers) I would imagine after the super-cala-splash-o-rama which was the Kelvinator back in the day, her Maytag seemed almost catatonic by comparison!
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Post# 24346-11/21/2002-12:12 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: Old Engineers and Archives
MESSAGE: I am full of (ideas) today! I was thinking about Peter's explaination of why the filter flow outlet was in the front on commercial units and was reminded of my question about why GE didn't fix the two speed, shift while running, problem and I had a flash. Has anyone approached manufactures to see if they would let us look at old proto type plans,etc? They may be able to supply names of engineers who are still alive that might share some interesting info.
I sit on the Historical Preservation Commission here in beautiful Monticello and we have had some luck getting info on old house,etc., just by asking.
I would be happy to help in this if someone can tell me where to start. Since the web site does include a museum we may have some luck.
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Post# 24347-11/21/2002-12:14 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Battle of the Washing machines
MESSAGE: Maytag was the simplest of designs. Just a motor, 2 belts, a pump and the trans. I guess any simpler would be a Kelvinator.
My 2 top dream machines go from the complex to the most simple
1) 1970 Kenmore 800 set
2) Any Kelvinator with centric agitation and a window lid
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Post# 24348-11/21/2002-13:08 ||| nmaineman36 (Portland Maine)
SUBJECT: New to me washer
MESSAGE: Hey there guys its been awhile but I am alive and still reading posts here. I just got a Maytag A613 washer and now that makes 3 washers for me. I ended up retiring the GM Frigidaire because the agitate arm is acting up and I am going have to replace the arm. There is a parts place in Portland that has the part so thats not an issue yet. I was told though that Electrolux is phasing out all GM parts and they are going to be tough to get a hold of.
Has anyone used the new Electrasol Gel Pacs? They are interesting to use but dont handle them with wet hands ..the outer skin disolves instantly when it hits water. They wash dishes very well. One pac is like using one tablet.
Surf detergent is going to be phased out in January and Unilever is going to marry Surf and All together and its just going to be All. They are focusing alot on the brand andgetting rid of brands that not performing like they should.
Getting back to the new baby for me I do like it alot. I had used an A510 growing up but somehow I didnt know how to use the washer right. This washer does very well and it does have quite a bit of power moving the load . I love the long arc and the slower agitation speed. My other Maytag with the orbital transmission doesnt come close to the clean I get with this one. What is nice is that I can put the agitators that I do have like the Load Sensor and the PowerFlex 12 in this washer.
Mike
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Post# 24349-11/21/2002-15:26 ||| chicapplis (illinois)
SUBJECT: combo washers
MESSAGE: I remember reading a book from the 50s quite a while ago that showed a front loading machine, by GE I think, that would both wash and dry. If I am not mistaken SzaSza Gabor(did I spell right) had a pink one on Green Acres, (as well as a mobil maid dishwasher which I find interesting since I believe they had a had pump for their kitchen sink), but thats another issue. I've heard talk of "combos" is this what you mean. And what ever happened to those machines. I mean what a good idea. Spacesaving, time saving, energy and water saving. If figure for commercial purposes it is better to have to sell 2 machines in stead of 1. Was that it. or was there something defective with the design and when did they stop making them.
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Post# 24350-11/21/2002-16:12 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Jimmy's (filterflo) Dexter Washer Pics are Here!!
MESSAGE: Here are the pictures that I uploaded to a Yahoo album for Jimmy of his beautiful Dexter washer.
Enjoy!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gefilterflo/lst?.dir=/Dexter+Washer&.src=ph&.view=t
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Post# 24351-11/21/2002-16:15 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Jimmy's (filterflo) Dexter Washer Pics are Here!! (Questions for Jimmy...)
MESSAGE: Do you know what year this washer is Jimmy? It looks very similar in style to the 1959 Philco that Robert has in his collection. Is this a solid basket with a perforated liner?
What a rare treasure - thanks for sharing the pictures with us!
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Post# 24352-11/21/2002-16:16 ||| deeptub (Carbondale, IL)
SUBJECT: RE: New to me washer (maytag orbital transmission)
MESSAGE: First of all, I'm glad I found this site--what a cool group!
Second, Surf...I remember when it came out (I was in Jr. High, I think...) I remember thinking, "Oh my god, it's a Tide knock-off. How much more obvious could it be? What's next? Rave? Hooray!?"
Anyway.
Third, does anyone know when Maytag came out with the orbital transmission? Was there overlap between it and the previous trans? The A612 we got when I was in high school (1989) had an orbital trans. I remember taking the front off before it was even moved in from the garage and thinking, "'Ello, whot's this?" There were lots of Maytags in the family, some quite old, and they all had the same EVERYTHING inside. Seemed pretty risque...Maytag coming up with something mechanically new. I remember wondering how it would hold up. I also remember thinking the short stroke was pretty funny to watch. Mom never said anything about it not cleaning as well as the A608 we left behind. Of course, she and dad are pretty suburban, so what goes into it is probably not that dirty to begin with. I also remember that mom was tickled that it would at least FILL with the lid open. And 13 years later, that washer and the matching DG512 dryer are still going and have never been repaired.
Anyway, thanks to all for this great discussion group!
Tom
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Post# 24353-11/21/2002-16:18 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: One of the last
MESSAGE: Westy's on eBay...
-ph
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2074104614
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Post# 24354-11/21/2002-16:19 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Battle of the Washing machines
MESSAGE: I heard someone say here once that if Maytag added a heater to their washers, they would make wonderful, self-stirring slow cookers that would never bruise a carrot!
Have you tried the Maytag 50hz pulley on the motor? It makes the agitation (and spin) much more effective - I wouldn't have a Maytag without it!
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Post# 24355-11/21/2002-16:22 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Jimmy's (filterflo) Dexter Washer Pics are Here!!
MESSAGE: Holy cow! What a beauty!
-ph
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Post# 24356-11/21/2002-16:24 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Old Engineers and Archives
MESSAGE: You might have some luck with manufacturers that still exist today, but unfortunately, many of the old brands are long gone now and it's doubtful much of the old design documentation was saved. As a ray of hope though, Jon (jetcone) contacted the Altorfer Bros. about the ABC-O-Matic washers and actually got to talk to the owner personally and even got a prototype, hand built washer from them!
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Post# 24357-11/21/2002-17:53 ||| deeptub (Carbondale, IL)
SUBJECT: RE: Battle of the Washing machines
MESSAGE: I am intrigued! I'll bet on an orbital trans. machine, the agitatior's "oscilation" would be more like "vibration". 50 Hz pulleys for everyone on my xmas list! thanks for the tip.
T.
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Post# 24358-11/21/2002-18:07 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: New to me washer
MESSAGE: Mike - glad to see you are alive and well. We have missed your posts. Interesting about the Lever plans to scrap the Surf brand. I actually like Surf - at least the one with bleaching action and the Spring Burst(powder and tabs). To me the Spring Burst smells a bit like the older detergents before everyone went crazy with artificial fruit, mountain streams and breezes and other such nonsense. Curious though - exactly how are they going to marry the Surf and All brands? The problem is that they are not willing to spend any money on advertising. I see plenty of All and Wisk advertisements but none for Surf. Just like Colgate - their products are not popular - but I haven't seen a commercial or a print ad for Fab or Ajax in 15 years. So how does a company expect to sell detergent? Word of mouth??
I haven't yet seen the Electrasol gel tabs yet, but I will give them a try. I really like the tablets though. In principle, they sound like something from the 60's - anyone remember Action Chlorine Bleach in the dissolvable packets? I think even Lestoil had one that was non chlorine - Lestare I believe it was called. Anyway - take care and keep posting Mike!!
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Post# 24359-11/21/2002-18:15 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: New to me washer (maytag orbital transmission)
MESSAGE: Actually, the Surf that is on the market today was RE introduced in 1985. Originally, Surf was on the market through 1973. Then it disappeared along with so many brands when all those environmental people went berserk with the phosphate issue. So I was surprised to see it advertised in 1985. I remember it so well . I was working in San Antonio, Texas and going to work one morning I passed a supermarket that advertised its specials on large posterboards in the window. I saw that and thought about it all day. I kept thinking that it was my imagination and I was back in the 60's. Well, before I came back home to Connecticut for the weekend I bought several boxes and brought them home. Several months later, Surf was finally available in the Northeast. Sad that a great brand is disappearing TWICE in our lives........
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Post# 24360-11/21/2002-18:20 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Jimmy's (filterflo) Dexter Washer Pics are Here!!
MESSAGE: Well, Jimmy, that is a beautiful machine. Wherever did you find it? Was it in that condition when you found it? Makes you wonder how long Philco manufactured washers for Dexter. And since we are on the Philco topic - have you worked on your South Dakota Philco finds yet? At this rate you will be able to host your own wash in!! Best of luck with that Dexter. Do you think we will be seeing any action shots or videos anytime soon????
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Post# 24361-11/21/2002-18:43 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Jimmy's (filterflo) Dexter Washer Pics are Here!! (Jimmy's (filterflo) Dexter Washer )
MESSAGE: Jimmy this is a real nice Dexter - I didn't realize they made a TL - Best of luck with it
Peter
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Post# 24362-11/21/2002-19:00 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT: RE: Jimmy's (filterflo) Dexter Washer Pics are Here!! (Jimmy's (filterflo) Dexter Washer )
MESSAGE: Wow, that really is one great washer. It combines all the best design features of the late 50's, early 60's. Are the controls identical on the Philco and Dexter of that year? Wasn't Philco owned by Ford, just as GM owned Frigidaire?
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Post# 24363-11/21/2002-20:12 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: New to me washer (Frigidaire parts)
MESSAGE: Hi Mike,
Good to hear from you again.
If you've kept up with the posts you might know I've been trying to find a replacement pulsator cap for my 1952 Frigidaire WO-65 washer. Could you please e-mail me the name and phone number of the parts store you are getting the agitate arm from? I've called part supply stores around the country looking for older Frigidaire parts, but no luck so far. If they can't help, maybe they can refer me to another store.
Also, what every happened with your Electrolux connection/friend? Have you heard any more about them bringing out an updated energy-efficient pulsator type washer?
Please e-mail me ASAP with the phone number at (kennywhy@att.net)
Thanks very much,
Ken
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Post# 24364-11/21/2002-20:27 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: My Dexter Automatic
MESSAGE: Hi All, As far as I can tell, the Dexter is a 1959 model. Its mechanically the same as the toploading Philco Automagic of the same era, EXCEPT for the controls. Dexter called its pushbuttons the "Fabric Formula Selectors" !!!!! I love it!
I found it in a basement of an old house in Wooster Ohio, but I had to take a Dexter Twin Tub and a 1955 Tappan Holiday range as part of the deal. As you can probably imagine, when I saw the top loading Dexter Automatic ANYTHING would have been worth it to obtain this gem. Thanks to Greg for posting my pics...........
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Post# 24365-11/21/2002-21:05 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: My Dexter Automatic (So Cool!)
MESSAGE: Jimmy,
That is a great looking machine. How much work did you have to do to it? Or was it actually ready to do a load? It is in such great shape!
Let us know what your thoughts are on it cleaning ability? I would love to know more.
Also, there is a switch on it that say's "water saver?" What did that do?
You have a wonderfull collection there!
When are you going to get your Lady Kenmore Combo?
Brent
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Post# 24366-11/21/2002-21:11 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Appliances in their New Home
MESSAGE: Jimmy, I'm thrilled you're finally moving into the new house. Hope the move with all your great stuff goes well. (Need someone to drive a car or two LOL?)
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Post# 24367-11/21/2002-21:14 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: RE: My Dexter Automatic (So Cool!)
MESSAGE: Brent, Thanks for the encouraging words on the Dexter. Its not a working machine yet, but it will be my winter project. I got a new rubber seal and bellows for it and the motor and timer seem to be OK.
I have not had time to pick up the Kenmore Combo yet from John L. I might do that in a couple of weeks, weather permitting.
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Post# 24368-11/21/2002-21:19 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New to me washer
MESSAGE: Mikey!!!, terrific post and congrats on the "ne" maytag. I'm glad you're preserving the Frigidaire. I remember what you went through to get it. And thanks for all the other "tidbits" of info. BB
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Post# 24369-11/21/2002-21:29 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Jimmy's (filterflo) Dexter Washer Pics are Here!!
MESSAGE: Jimmy, I particularly love the "formula Selector" In some ways, it reminds me in a way of Frigidaire's 1959 Imperial Washer, of which there was the control panel at the warehouse.
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Post# 24370-11/21/2002-21:37 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: My Dexter Automatic (Do you have several Laundry Rooms like some of the lucky gentlemen here?)
MESSAGE: Jimmy,
Sounds like a fun Winter project!
So, We have seen the "pretty machines all in a row" in your garage, but I am sure that you have another room where you will have your other machines running? (I know you have much more than what was pictured) I am so amazed at how you guys are able to have all of these machines up and running, at the same time if you want. Amazing!
Robert, Bob W, Greg, Mark, John, Jeff, Steve 1-18, and those of you I missed make me so envious of how you make this happen! Very encouraging on the rest of us "lay persons", if you will.
Thanks for sharing!
Brent
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Post# 24371-11/21/2002-22:24 ||| jerseymike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: Washer Memories
MESSAGE: This is a great site. I found it a couple of weeks ago. This is my first post. I grew up in a 44 unit apartment building. Everyone had a washing machine in their kitchen and a clothesline that ran either to a 5 story clothesline pole or to a neighbor's window. (I often admired the guys who had to climb that pole to replace a line.) My mom had two lines one to the pole (we lived on the second floor) and one to our next door neighbor's window. My mom had a Maytag. Circa 1962. Most of our neighbors also had Maytags of similar vintage. It was the washer of choice in our building. You could count the exceptions on one hand. One neighbor had a GE. Another had a Norge "Time Line". (I was always fascinated by that one.) And another had a Fridgidaire Pulsator. (I was REALLY fascinated by that one. I spent a lot of time in their kitchen.) It was a very early model. It had no grounding plug and no safety switch. It continued to pulsate and spin when the lid was open.
I had an aunt who lived in a house in the suburbs. She also had a Fridgidaire Pulsator. I'm guessing that it was from the mid to late fifties. It was in her basement so I didn't get to see it operate that often. :-(. It had a matching dryer. She was the first person that I remember having a dryer. My mother and her other sisters used to bad mouth it. The clothes don't smell as nice. They shrink. etc., etc.
I had another aunt who also lived in the suburbs. She had a Bendix washer/dryer combo. She didn't allow us into the basement, so I never did get to see it operate. As a matter of fact, I didn't know that it existed until the day of her funeral. My uncle sent me downstairs to get some ice. I was gone so long that another aunt came to look for me.
My grandmother (a couple from us in another apartment building) had a portable "Monitor" washing machine. It was very small. It was on wheels. It had a single tub and its agitator was an impeller on the back wall. It filled with a single hose that connected to a faucet and had to be held over the machine. It had a manual wringer. It didn't have a grounding plug. It had two switches. One for "wash" and one for "pump" which was used to drain the machine. She had two laundry tubs next to her kitchen sink and she used them two rinse the wash. She had to climb out of the window (and onto her fire escape) to hang the wash on the line.
My other grandmother lived in a house. She had two wringer washers. A Maytag that was from the late 1940's or early 1950's. She also had an Easy. That one was even older. She used that to rinse the wash.
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Post# 24372-11/21/2002-22:43 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: My Dexter Automatic
MESSAGE: 'Fabric Formulas' is great - such pomp and circumstance for a washer!
I would have hauled away most anything to get this washer too, it's a true gem. Would you take a few photos of the work you do on it? It will be fun to see the awakening of this sleeping beauty.
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Post# 24373-11/21/2002-22:48 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: My Dexter Automatic (Do you have several Laundry Rooms like some of the lucky gentlemen here?)
MESSAGE: You can have them! One of our members that lives right there in Atlanta (how lucky is that!) just might be needing some off-site storage...
I'll take the slap PH ;-)
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Post# 24374-11/22/2002-02:06 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: The Dexter and the rest of my collection
MESSAGE: My garage/workshop is rather large, and some of the other machines I have dont all show up in the pics with the Dexter. I have 7 washer and dryer sets (I LOVE matching sets) in the garage for a total of 14 items, and also have a Maytag demo dishwasher, Philco wringer washer, GE wall mount refrigerator, Frigidaire 40" Flair range (that one is waiting for my kitchen to be finished). THEN in my back garage are some of my refrigerators (Leonard FOODARAMA, GE Americana, etc). THEN in my storage shed are my 1956 Philco set from the farm, 1955 GE Stratoliner Range, 1940 Bendix, a couple of 50's dishwashers and frig's........ THEN in my house, I have my 1959 GE bottom freezer frig and 1952 GE drawer type dishwasher, Easy spinner, JAMES dishwasher, Frost Queen freezer, and I use a modern Whirlpool washer & dryer (all electronic controls).
THEN in my parents garage,,,,,oh my the list goes on and on. Talk about compulsive excessive.......But we all love our appliances.......Just like children or pets, we love them all a lot, but each one in different ways.........
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Post# 24375-11/22/2002-06:07 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Jimmy's (filterflo) Dexter Washer Pics are Here!!
MESSAGE: After having just watched the new Harry Potter movie, the "Formula Selector" sounds like you're making some kind of magic washing potion.
Automagic?
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Post# 24376-11/22/2002-06:53 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: POD Norge Coin-ops
MESSAGE: I'm wondering if this washer is from the same time frame as that Norge front loader at Jeff's house in MD.
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Post# 24377-11/22/2002-08:01 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Washer Memories (Nice memories Mike!)
MESSAGE: I have to say I see it time and time again! Your tale of your Aunt having that Bendix and you never being allowed to see it because she wouldn't allow you into the basement is very familiar to me! SO many of my neighbors would let me in the basement but would get weird when I tried to look in their machine ,lift the lid etc! In the 60's it was like you were looking inside them! I find it peculiar when just upstairs they were always telling you to help your self to the Refigerator or change the channel on their TV! TV's cost a whale of alot more than dryers or washers back then and not eveyone had one! I can't tell you how many times I was yelled at STAY AWAY FROM THAT MACHINE! Did they really think we were going to let it yank our arms off in spin???
Maybe it was the fact that alot of our parents generation grew up with wringers and it is carry over from their parents warnings about laundry?? Wringers are dangerous, alot of people have war stories to tell using wringers. I don't know but it seems to be a cultural thing not a thinking thing.
jon
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Post# 24378-11/22/2002-08:28 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: Washer Memories (MONITOR WASHER)
MESSAGE: I own a Monitor Washer! In fact, I've owned two, through the years....Now that you mention it.....I'm sure that when I was working for ALCO, about 9 years ago, I sent one out to Minneapolis to someone's collection (gary wible?) and when it got there, the pump was stuck (with carpet lint) and whoever it was I sent it out to, NEVER PAID ME FOR IT. That was my first big appliance rip off, ever. If any of you minnesota guys know anything about that washer, do what you can to get whoever has it to either get in touch with me and give the machine back, or at least pay me for it (nearly 10 years later).
I had invested quite a bit of myself into that machine, including paying 50 bucks for it dead.....
had it all running, then got totally ripped off about it.
I'm beginning to think that's the MO of this club. Let's see who can rip the other guy off the biggest, and most often.
Anyway....I have another running one now, but as you can see, I also feature a very long memory.
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Post# 24379-11/22/2002-08:29 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Washer Memories (Nice memories Mike!)
MESSAGE: I'm glad I wasn't the only kid who got yelled at for looking at a washer. This one neighbor had a Kenmore, I think the first model that had the wash n wear cycle and the grey scrub brush top on the agitator, in their garage. Everytime I would just look at it they would scream at me.
I guess, in a way this club is our revenge on people like my neighbor and all our relatives who wouldn't allow us near their machines.
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Post# 24380-11/22/2002-08:45 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Washer Memories (I think you are right Jon.)
MESSAGE: I think that you are right on track about their fears that were instilled into them from generations of wringer washer accidents, and the horror stories of hair getting caught, and arms, and boobies, etc. (I think that one of the Consumer Reports on the club has clippings from newspapers that show this stuff. Even one woman that was killed when she was scalped by her wringer!
When I think back, I get paranoid. My grandparents and aunts used to encourage me to pull up the chair and watch the thing. Wonder what they had in mind.
Brent
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Post# 24381-11/22/2002-08:54 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Washer Memories (Neighbors and Machines!)
MESSAGE: I loved visiting the neighbors and doing their laundry and dishes so that I could play with the different machines in the hood. The women always thought it was so cute. I hated when they would run into my mom and me in a store, and they would say, "Brent is so sweet, he always helps me with my washing and cleaning". It would send chills down my spine because I knew that my mom would be pissed about this! I never did stop though. The one thing that I can remember that the women I would help would always say after I would put in the clothes into the machine, "Come sit with me until it is done", not understanding that the whole reason I was doing this was to watch the machine. Not because I got a kick from child labor! I also would always say when it was time to fold and pick up the clothes, "I think I hear my mom calling me". I never, and still don't get into that part of doing laundry.
Man, I should have charged them back then! Hindsite!
Brent
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Post# 24382-11/22/2002-09:07 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: My Dexter Automatic (Do you have STORAGE SPACE like of the lucky gentlemen here?)
MESSAGE: You do not speak with forked tongue! Take my washing machines, please!
-ph
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Post# 24383-11/22/2002-09:13 ||| deeptub (Carbondale, IL)
SUBJECT: RE: Washer Memories (Nice memories Mike!)
MESSAGE: My maternal grandmother was a worrier...she could spot distaster in an empty room. We didn't even go in her basement. "There's nothing down there that would interest you." I didn't get to play with her Maytags until after she was dead and we were cleaning the house to sell it. Likewise, she always turned her window air conditioner off when she left the house (It could burn the house down!"). My mom and I were discussing the logic one day--I said, "Would she turn off her refrigerator or heat when she leaves the house?" And mom said, "She would if she got one whiff of danger so humor her and don't try rationalizing with her." My paternal grandmother, on the other hand, wasn't about to pass up help with laundry and was more than happy to set up a stepladder and discuss laundry chemicals.
Good times.
T.
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Post# 24384-11/22/2002-09:31 ||| dalangdon (Seattle, WA)
SUBJECT: RE: Washer Memories (Nice memories Mike! (paranoid parents))
MESSAGE: My mom never let us go near the washer or dryer either - AND she was weird about the refrigerator because a cousin of hers had cut her hand on a refrigerator latch, got blood poisoning and had to have her hand cut off or something. She also never let us hold onto the handrails on escalators because she heard they can catch kids hands and shred them (which, as a child, was a wonderfully gorey image ;-)
Reading this, I realize I've made her sound like a paranoid freak, which she wasn't. She was just something of a technophobe. Plus, she used to read "Reader's Digest" which, as you might recall, seemed to specialize in appliance/child horror stories. We used to tease her about it but she felt she had the ultimate justification the time George McGovern (our cat, not the presidential candidate) was in the dryer when she started it up. She heard him bouncing around and meowing and let him out right away, but he was never quite the same after that.....
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Post# 24385-11/22/2002-10:39 ||| deeptub (Carbondale, IL)
SUBJECT: RE: Washer Memories (Refrigerator Issues)
MESSAGE: And THAT reminds me that my worrier grandmother also had Refrigerator Issues. The last refrigerator she owned (1973 Whirlpool with IceMagic icemaker) had magnetic door seals (MillionMagnet seals, to be precise). So I would close it gently, like a normal person. But she'd say, "That isn't shut right!" And I'd say, "Yes it is. The doors close magnetically." And she'd say, "Oh, ok." But the next time she was near it she'd open it and slam that door so hard it would rock back and forth on its rollers. Ah, god love her.
T.
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Post# 24386-11/22/2002-13:25 ||| Jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The Dexter and the rest of my collection
MESSAGE: Hmmmmm.....Is anybody still wondering where the next convention will be held???????? Hee Hee, Don
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Post# 24387-11/22/2002-13:25 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Washer Memories (Nice memories Mike!)
MESSAGE: Although no one has said so, I am sure part of the adult yelling at us about playing with washers was the old "boys don't DO things like that". Remember they were of a different generation, so they couldn't understand that. My father, my uncles and most of my aunts were very vocal about my "fascination with womens' work". So I guess I embarassed my folks to death, but it didn't stop me at all. I always figured, I am as normal as the next guy. Besides, none of them ever were ever complimentary about my high school baseball career - man's work to be sure (although I must admit I had the whitest uniform on the team and my favorite part of the game was getting my uniform spotless and sparkling).
Funny though, even today, my sister misses no opportunity to inform me of how "emabarassing and unnnatural" my hobby is to her. I simply refuse to listen and wonder why she has so much free time to worry about my hobbies..............
Ha!! Revenge indeed.....
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Post# 24388-11/22/2002-13:52 ||| Frigilux (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents
MESSAGE: Welcome to the site/club/best-damn-thing-since-sliced-bread! Discovering this site was almost as much fun for me as finding new family members.
After reading all your sad stories of not being able to watch/play with/use the family washer, I'm almost afraid to tell you that my Dad bought me a step-stool when I was a little kid so I could lord over our '60 Kenmore Model 80. My Mom would put the clothes and detergent in the washer and let me set the water level and push the cycle buttons. I can still remember every rhythm and sound that machine made...
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Post# 24389-11/22/2002-13:57 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: THE OLD ROAD HOME!
MESSAGE: Hi Everyone! Just finished reading Robert Seger's article on Frigidaire washing machines in THE OLD ROAD HOME. For those of you that don't know, The Old Road Home is The Old Appliance Club magazine. His article is in Volume VIII Issue #3 the Summer Quarter 2002. (yes, as you can see, I'm quite behind in my mail!) Robert starts at the very begining of the Frigidaire washer, and gives very informative information (with pictures!) on it's history before the war, and up until the brand was sold to White Consolidated. Surely an article to read over and over. THANKS ROBERT! Mark
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Post# 24390-11/22/2002-15:35 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Washer Memories (Washer Memories )
MESSAGE: Mike Welcome to a real great club
I am a New York member
Peter
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Post# 24391-11/22/2002-15:41 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: THE OLD ROAD HOME! (THE OLD ROAD HOME)
MESSAGE: That was a real great article - I enjoyed reading it.
Peter
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Post# 24392-11/22/2002-15:56 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents
MESSAGE: A foot stool? I can top that. One Christmas when I was a little boy I insisted on Santa Claus bringing me this toy Frigidaire washer with a three-ring pulsator just like the one on the 58 Imperial model. My father was adamant that his only son was not going to play with "a girlie toy like some damn sissy". But my great aunt, who always let me go in her basement and watch her 55 GE washing, bought it for me anyway. It was my favorite toy. If you turned the crank one way the pulsator would move up and down and when you reversed the crank the tub would spin.
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Post# 24393-11/22/2002-16:24 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents
MESSAGE: Lesto,
You just sent chills thru me. I had one of those washers. I had totally forgotten about it! Thanks for the memory.
Tom
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Post# 24394-11/22/2002-16:31 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents
MESSAGE: Well! When I was a little boy, my parents gave me a Wolverine washer for one Christmas, to embarass me. It was beautiful. Had like a timer control that when turned one way, it would wash, and when turned the other way, it would spin. AND it had a clear plastic lid that I could watch all the action through! I started taking in all the dolly laundry in the neighborhood to their dismay. Barbies really get their clothes dirty! I even put up a little clothesline and hung everything out to dry.....such the little homemaker was I! By the way, I still have that washer in my laundry room. I remember using Prell shampoo to wash the doll clothes since it made LOTS of suds! Mark
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Post# 24395-11/22/2002-17:11 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (Wolverine washer)
MESSAGE: Can we have pics? :-)
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Post# 24396-11/22/2002-17:35 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: THE OLD ROAD HOME!
MESSAGE: Mark - is that a magazine that is available only through membership in The Old Appliance Club? I have never seen it anywhere.
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Post# 24397-11/22/2002-17:51 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (Childhood Washing)
MESSAGE: I had a toy washer and dryer when I was four - the picture of me playing with them is the link. I remember my grandfather saying to me things like "did you finish your women's work?" and the like, but I pretty much ignored all of that. When my grandmother bought a new Maytag washer in 1975, she had my grandfather put plumbing in their unfinished basement to install the old 57 Maytag down there. It was like a dream come true for me at age 9 - I spent hours down there washing in that old washer. All of the scatter rugs, cleaning rags, even greasy rags from the garage would be placed in my care. In reality they were probably indulging my strange fascination which kept me happy, but at the same time keeping it hidden in the basement!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/My+Appliance+Life...&.src=ph&.dnm=First+washer+dryer+-+age+4.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/My%2bAppliance%2bLife...%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 24398-11/22/2002-18:40 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: washing a "queen"
MESSAGE: Any Equator owners tried washing a queen comforter in a 3600CEE? I realize it won't dry, but will it wash?
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Post# 24399-11/22/2002-19:10 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Washer Memories (I think you are right Jon.)
MESSAGE: Brent:
Sorry to hear your grandparents were so "friendly" with you!!!
As they say " It all comes out in the wash!"
jon
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Post# 24400-11/22/2002-19:11 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Washer Memories (Neighbors and Machines!)
MESSAGE: What they charge here in Boston is 50 to 70 cents a pound cleaned and folded!
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Post# 24401-11/22/2002-19:24 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Washer Memories (Nice memories Mike!)
MESSAGE: Wow did that ever trigger memories--"Theres nothing down there that would interest you!" Oh YEAH???? If I had a dime for everytime I heard that I could afford a time machine fly back to ohio 1955 and buy an APEX and beat Robert to the punch!!!!
jet
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Post# 24402-11/22/2002-19:27 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Washer Memories (Nice memories Mike! (paranoid parents))
MESSAGE: Dan! I've got to tell my step mom that story!! cats in the dryer sounds like a cat stevens song!!
jet
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Post# 24403-11/22/2002-19:45 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Washer Memories (Nice memories Mike!)
MESSAGE: I think your sister has washer evny! Or whitest whites envy!
jetcone
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Post# 24404-11/22/2002-19:53 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (Same here!)
MESSAGE: Figilux:
My mom set up a real wooden soap box for me to peer into our 1956 GE with the beautiful Copper Backsplash!
She would leave me down there for hours and hours and was happy to let me do all the laundry!
On Saturdays I would make it upstairs at 11:30 to see "Rocky Jones Space Ranger" then a quick lunch and back downstairs. My friends would come for me every Sat to play and Mom would just send them down to the basement to get me.
That's is why I was always so confused as to why other people guarded their basement sooooooooooooooo jealously!
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Post# 24405-11/22/2002-19:55 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (wished I'd had one of those!)
MESSAGE: WOw they actually made a toy Frigidaire?? I have never seen one. Was it green on the outside?
jet
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Post# 24406-11/22/2002-20:06 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (Childhood Washing)
MESSAGE: Wow Greg that reminds me of my earliest memories! My parents got their new 1956 GE when we were still living in an apartment and so the machine was hooked up in the kitchen right beside the stove.
Being almost two and as always very tall for my age-- At dinner time Mom wanted to keep an eye on me and an eye on cooking so she would hoist me up on the counter and start a load with that new Copper pan filter flo washer. That would keep me busy and in sight all through the cooking of dinner!
I remember at 3 like it was yesterday when we moved into our house and I saw the washer go down the stairs to the basement I ran to my mother and was crushed that it wouldn't be put in the kitchen!! WOW That was an old memory! I also remember the horrible pea green wall to wall carpet and the cocoa walls! That lasted about a week after we got there!
This is fun! THese threads are really shaking up the brain cells!
jet
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Post# 24407-11/22/2002-20:13 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (Childhood Washing)
MESSAGE: What a cute pic of you. You look alot like me at that age. My older sister has a pic of me standing ona foot stool watching my Mom's 1955 top-of-the-line Hotpoint washer.
And I love the blue Maytag set. Are they a 57? Do you have any photos of the agitator and control dial?
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Post# 24408-11/22/2002-20:16 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (wished I'd had one of those!)
MESSAGE: Mine was pink.
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Post# 24409-11/22/2002-20:18 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (Childhood Washing)
MESSAGE: My aunt's 55 GE had a copper filter flo pan too.
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Post# 24410-11/22/2002-21:34 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (Childhood Washing)
MESSAGE: What a wonderfull memory!
Brent
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Post# 24411-11/22/2002-21:36 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (What?)
MESSAGE: What happend to your Washer Lesto?
Brent
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Post# 24412-11/22/2002-21:38 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (Childhood Washing)
MESSAGE: Greg,
You were so cute!
Do you remember when you turned your back and your father put your little washer and dryer in the garbage? LOL
Brent
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Post# 24413-11/22/2002-21:43 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: GE "Spot Scrubber" washer worth fixing?
MESSAGE: My Buddy has a 80's vintage GE "Spot Scrubber" clothes washer in sandy beige that just suddenly stopped working. Won't do anything when you push in the dial. We tried switching the water hoses, filling it with water from a gargen hose and nothing happens.
Acts as if it's not pulgged in, even though we verified power was available at the outlets we tried. My question is, would this machine be worth reparing? Is there an internal fuseable link that could have been tripped? Or posibly a short in the cord? Or does this sound like a bumm timer?
Washer highlights include: "mini basket" setting (though we don;t know where it is) on the water level switch. The water temperature buttons are chrome and to the left, an extra rinse switch is also present next to the cycle slector. Chrome and black theme for the back splash. "Hexagonal" like lid and the water discharges into the filter-flo insert from the NE side of the washtub rim. Bulk trash pickup is next week.
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Post# 24414-11/22/2002-21:45 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (Childhood Washing)
MESSAGE: I have a sneaking suspicion that's what happened to my toy Frigidaire. :(
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Post# 24415-11/22/2002-21:46 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: GE "Spot Scrubber" washer worth fixing?
MESSAGE: Sounds like the timer has shorted out to me.
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Post# 24416-11/22/2002-22:06 ||| Jeaniet (michigan)
SUBJECT: Norge Time-Line Dryers...
MESSAGE: In the last 24hrs I have developed a new appreciation
for the antique I Norge time-line dryer I have in my
basement. Unfortunately it is because the heating
element died - everything else in good condition. I
moved into my grandmother's house last May and have
been using the dryer regularly. I had no idea how old
it was until I started grilling my Dad after every
appliance I contacted couldn't even find the model in
their database (AE620D - yall were talking about it
about a month ago...). So 1954 is what my Dad and I
came up with too. I need to find a replacement -
line-drying my clothes is not an option - but it
pains me to part with this great machine! Any ideas
where to find a new heating element or a good home for
my vintage machine?
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Post# 24417-11/22/2002-22:54 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (Childhood Washing)
MESSAGE: Greg, I had the SAME toy set, with a stove and dishwasher and sink/cabinet as well.
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Post# 24418-11/22/2002-23:32 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (RE: Welcome Jerseymike)
MESSAGE: WOW!!! Thanks for the WARM welcome everyone! :-) It's nice to have found a home!
My childhood experiences mirrored everyone elses. My family alternately tolerated/tried to discourage my "fascination" with washers, clotheslines and dryers. (I heard "That's for sissies" more times than I care to remember." Fortunately, they usually let me do my thing.) I was also fascinated by those GE electric stoves with the pushbutton controls. (The aunt who had the Frigidaire Pulsator in her basement had one of those. :-)) But that's another thread. My "fascination" came in handy when I got to high school. Mom started to work part time and I used help out by doing the wash. I had long ago put my fascination on the back burner so to speak, but it was nice to able to do laundry without having to worry what anyone else thought.
I always wanted a toy washer. I never had the nerve to ask for one. I once got yelled at for playing with one in the toy department in a local discount department store. It was pink and the tub spun when you turned a crank. I was doing just that when a salewoman started to holler. Do you remember those "Suzy Homemaker" toy appliances from the late 60's? They had a washer that worked (at least in the commercials) and I used to hope that someone would get one for my younger sister. Unfortunately, she never got one. :-(
This is fun! Thanks again for the warm welcome and for indulging my walk down memory lane! :-)
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Post# 24419-11/22/2002-23:38 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (RE: Welcome Jerseymike)
MESSAGE: Yes, my sisters (LOL) had a Suzy Homemaker washer. Unimatic has one still in the box, don't think he has ever taken it out. Somebody else around here also has one, but I don't recall who it is.
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Post# 24420-11/23/2002-01:08 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Time-Line Dryers...
MESSAGE: The heating element in this dryer was a coil-type element that could probably be re-strung with a new coil. If you take the old element out and take it to an appliance parts store or repair shop, someone there could probably help you get a new coil for it.
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Post# 24421-11/23/2002-01:17 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GE "Spot Scrubber" washer worth fixing?
MESSAGE: I believe the Spotscrubber washer was introduced in 1987 - Bob/appnut might know for sure. It sounds like you have a bad timer, but you could check with an electrical tester to make sure power it getting to the timer before you replace it. You should be able to find a new or re-built timer from Midwest Timer Service 1-800-253-7260, you'll just need the part number for the timer. Good luck!
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Post# 24422-11/23/2002-02:08 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicagp area)
SUBJECT: RE: GE "Spot Scrubber" washer worth fixing?
MESSAGE: actually I believe it was 85 because my parents had "spotscrubber" washer bought new for their new house in 85. I had to read that twice because GE called their Dishwashers "potscrubber" dishwashers
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Post# 24423-11/23/2002-06:00 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (RE: Welcome Jerseymike)
MESSAGE: I had a Suzy Homemaker washer too but it wasn't nearly as much fun as the toy Frigidaire. I'm sure I embarrased my parents to death.
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Post# 24424-11/23/2002-06:59 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: Norge Picture - of - the - Day
MESSAGE: What a great looking pair!
I just wanted to ask who are providing the ads, and thank the persons that are providing the ads. (I think I remember Robert saying during the convention that someone was scanning some for him.) They are in such amazing wonderful shape! What a great collection!
Thanks for sharing.
Brent
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Post# 24425-11/23/2002-07:03 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Picture - of - the - Day
MESSAGE: I agree, Brent. Does anyone know how long Norge made the Timeline machines? I believe 1954 was when they were introduced and had the blue trim on the control panel like the pair in the POD. And I know Robert's 56 has a gold trimmed panel.
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Post# 24426-11/23/2002-08:05 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Picture - of - the - Day
MESSAGE: Well, Brent, I cannot take the credit for scanning, but I had sent Robert today's Norge ad (which incidentally features GregM's dryer), yesterday's Norge 15/Tide ad, and Thursday's Tide/Philco Miss America ad. Funny how they all appeared consecutively... These were ads from magazines I found at estate sales. I guess since estate sales around here don't turn up any vintage washers, I will have to settle for related magazine ads. (LOL)
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Post# 24427-11/23/2002-08:08 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Picture - of - the - Day
MESSAGE: Robert would probably know this better than I , but here goes. I think Norge introduced the Timeline in 1951 or 1952, and continued until around 1958. That's when they introduced the "dispensomat". In fact I think the last year of the timelines was 1958 -but the control panel changed to a larger one in 1957.
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Post# 24428-11/23/2002-08:47 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: GE "Spot Scrubber" washer worth fixing?
MESSAGE: Thanks for the info guys!. From what my buddy was telling me, it was running strong until this happened. I'm not a fan of GE washers, but since my new Frigidaire front loader won't be delivered until Dec 10th, I might repair this to get me by.
-Alex
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Post# 24429-11/23/2002-09:14 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Washer Memories (I already wrote it.)
MESSAGE: I already wrote a parody of Cat's in The Cradle a long time ago called Cat's in The Dryer. I'll have to search through the archives and repost it.
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Post# 24430-11/23/2002-09:37 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: washing a "queen" (washing a "
queen"
)
MESSAGE: I have washed a full sized comforter and it would take a Queen
It would never be able to dry it
Peter
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Post# 24431-11/23/2002-12:48 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: THE OLD ROAD HOME!
MESSAGE: Hi angus! This is the "newsletter/magazine that THE OLD APPLIANCE CLUB sends out every quarter. This magazine is heavy on the stoves and fridges but also includes old vaccums, mixers, toasters, etc. Very interesting club. They can be reached at http://www.theoldapplianceclub.com and I'm sure would be glad to tell you how you can subscribe. Mark
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Post# 24432-11/23/2002-12:57 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Time-Line Dryers...
MESSAGE: The heating shroud can be restrung with heating coils from several different companies. I usually use Maytag but it doesn't really matter. I don't know the wattage on the norge, but 4500w and 5200w are available. If you're not sure, use the lesser wattage coils. Be careful when restringing that you measure the old burned out coils, and pull the new string out about 3 inches shorter..then start to restring the heater shroud. You do NOT want to stretch the coils "as you go", or the string will be very uneven and tend to overheat in spots and burn out prematurely. You might also want to change out the thermostats. FSP has variable temp thermostats that will most likely fit your needs. Take an old one with you so you're sure to get the right diameter for the application. Once this is done, excepting the belts, you'll have a "like new" beautiful timeline dryer.....and PLEASE! Don't forget to replace the light bulb in the control panel! Mark
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Post# 24433-11/23/2002-12:59 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Time-Line Dryers...
MESSAGE: The heating shroud can be restrung with heating coils from several different companies. I usually use Maytag but it doesn't really matter. I don't know the wattage on the norge, but 4500w and 5200w are commonly available. If you're not sure, use the lesser wattage coils. Be careful when restringing that you measure the old burned out coils, and pull the new string out about 3 inches shorter..then start to restring the heater shroud. You do NOT want to stretch the coils "as you go", or the string will be very uneven and tend to overheat in spots and burn out prematurely. You might also want to change out the thermostats. FSP has variable temp thermostats that will most likely fit your needs. Take an old one with you so you're sure to get the right diameter for the application. Once this is done, excepting the belts, you'll have a "like new" beautiful timeline dryer.....and PLEASE! Don't forget to replace the light bulb in the control panel if it's burned out! Mark
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Post# 24434-11/23/2002-13:03 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (Wolverine washer)
MESSAGE: I have yet to figure out how to get pics on this site! If you will email me with specific instructions, I will try...but remember... these new fangled computers I just don't understand. So far, I can get email, scan a picture, and find porn. This is a far as I've gotten. Soooooo your help IS appreciated! Mark my email is : bigrrfan@aol.com
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Post# 24435-11/23/2002-13:34 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (Wolverine washer)
MESSAGE: I'm soo jealous of those of you who were lucky enough to have had a toy washing machine. Like I said, I never did get up the nerve to ask for one. I just did a quick google search for "toy washing machines" and came up the "Wash-o-Matic". It sounds interesting to say the least.
LINK: http://work.colum.edu/~matma/museum/washomatic.shtml
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Post# 24436-11/23/2002-15:04 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: GE "Spot Scrubber" washer worth fixing?
MESSAGE: Don't shortchange the older GE washers, Alex. They were really well built machines. Sure there were things that could have been better like handling unbalanced loads, but for the most part, they washed well, handled lint well, and spun reasonably well. And they did tend to oversuds, but then when you measure that against the drama of the constantly recirculating Filter Flo, it was a small price to pay. I must say that I really do miss my minibasket - not only was it fun to watch, but it actually worked very well. In fact the only real negative Consumer Reports could muster up was that their design was "dated and not as competitive as other brands". I suspect that this was right about the time that all other manufacturers went for the ratcheting screw agitators and mega tubs, so GE was not considered as progressive. I personally had no problem with that design - and would have preferred that they keep it instead of sacrificing reliability for the "new improved GE design" with plastic tubs and a useful life of under 5 years......
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Post# 24437-11/23/2002-15:11 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: Surf or All
MESSAGE: As a follow up to Mike's message the other day about Lever Bros plans to eliminate Surf, what they are doing is interesting. According to Lever Bros. Consumer Relations Dept, they are actually marrying both brands into the All name. So, it this is true, the existing All products will remain intact and available, and all the products previously labelled as Surf (powder, liquid and tablets) will be the same formulation, but will be labelled as All. Sounds kind of confusing to me. But at least I will not have to go out and buy cases of Surf powder and tablets - well, I might if I want to have the Surf name. Like I said the other day, this is the second time the Surf brand name has gone away. I wonder if it will reappear yet again someday............
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Post# 24438-11/23/2002-15:22 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf or All
MESSAGE: The "new" graphics on Surf packaging have the ALL logo. "with ALL stain lifters" or some such...
-ph
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Post# 24439-11/23/2002-15:33 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Atomic Warehouse in PA
MESSAGE: Browsing ebay, I found this auction that the seller had included pictures of his store. It looks like a real fun place to spend an afternoon! Scroll down to the bottom of the page for the store pics.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=736120435
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Post# 24440-11/23/2002-15:34 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: GE "Spot Scrubber" washer worth fixing?
MESSAGE: I am still saddened about the demise of the Filter Flo washers. They have their bugaboos like any brand as you say, but there are a lot of good things about them and you could do a lot worse for a washer.
I remember reading that comment in CR and have often wondered if that somehow precipitated the new and improved fiasco that are the GE toploaders of today.
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Post# 24441-11/23/2002-15:35 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Atomic Warehouse in PA
MESSAGE: That would be a fun store to see, and what a beautiful radio!
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Post# 24442-11/23/2002-16:26 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents
MESSAGE: Yeah, I'm a bit sad that I was consistently shooed away from our old circa approx '50 Bendix washer in the basement. I was actually frightened of it, especially when it oversudsed and Mom would get in a panic. I suppose I was warned never to touch it, and I gave it wide berth. Things sure changed when we became a single-parent family in a washerless flat in the city, and I was handed a few coins, my own laundry, and pointed in the direction of the nearest laundromat. I wish I had snuck some time with the Bendix when it was possible.
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Post# 24443-11/23/2002-16:33 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf or All
MESSAGE: I don't quite understand how SURF could be re-labeled as ALL since ALL is a low sudser and Surf gives a fair amount of suds...that's why I like it....and it cleans well! Mark
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Post# 24444-11/23/2002-18:02 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (Wolverine washer)
MESSAGE: wait, you can find porn?
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Post# 24445-11/23/2002-18:04 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE "Spot Scrubber" washer worth fixing?
MESSAGE: angus,
I concur the minibasket was pretty handy. It was perfect for a quick wash of a sweater,ect.
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Post# 24446-11/23/2002-19:27 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: GE "Spot Scrubber" washer worth fixing?
MESSAGE: I guess my distaste for GE washers is a direct result of using a newer model with that awefull screw-type agitator.
I was used to using an older Norge designed Maytag model with the huge tub that stayed pretty much in the center, when I went to use my mom's newer GE, the tub was all over the place while I was arranging the clothes to be washed. I asked her if there was any problem with it and she stated it had always done that. I was not impressed.
I actually thought the filter-flo models were pretty cool! I don't have a problem with anything old, as long as it works and looks good. But I've come to the conclusion I am a Speed Queen/Frigidaire/Kelvinator man.
-Alex
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Post# 24447-11/23/2002-19:54 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: GE "Spot Scrubber" washer worth fixing?
MESSAGE: While I am not that fond of the GE washer, I always liked the swirl agitation system and thought it washed real well. For this reason, I'm keeping one of the "newer" models with the mini basket in my collection. I would love to find one of the GE Americana washers with the lighted controls to match the dryer I have in white! Anybody out there got one? Mark
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Post# 24448-11/23/2002-20:54 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf or All
MESSAGE: Peter, have you seen this already? I was told this wouldn't start until January 2003, but perhaps it was test marketed in your area......
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Post# 24449-11/23/2002-21:00 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf or All
MESSAGE: Actually Mark - All has not really been considered a true low sudser for a long time - certainly not since the days of "bleach, borax and brighteners". I am not sure if liquid All ever was a low suds product, but it sure isn't now. My experience with the current various flavors and forms of All would suggest that it is a "regular suds" product. Of course the only true way to tell for sure is to load up an old GE filter flo, add some All and let it go. If the entire top of the machine is not awash in suds within several minutes, you might have a "controlled suds product" on your hands. (LOL)
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Post# 24450-11/23/2002-21:05 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: GE "Spot Scrubber" washer worth fixing?
MESSAGE: Fair enough Alex. Not everything appeals the same way to everyone. I still think the GE is worth repairing though. Those things were built like tanks and if it's in good cosmetic shape also it would be a shame to let it go.
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Post# 24451-11/23/2002-21:18 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: GE "Spot Scrubber" washer worth fixing? (GE Filter Flow Models)
MESSAGE: I remember seeing ads for GE Filter Flows (I'm guessing in the early '80's) that had a four compartment dispenser -- for detergent, bleach and fabric softener -- that was built into the lid. If I remember correctly, the forth compartment was for adding detergent to the prewash or presoak cycle. That's got to be one of the most unusual locations/designs for a dispenser! (How could you add a forgotten item to the wash once you filled the dispensers?) Did anyone ever own one of these model or at least get to see of them in operatation?
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Post# 24452-11/23/2002-21:38 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (Childhood Washing)
MESSAGE: I Do! It was a pink battery operated model with one big control dial up front in the middle and a clear lid!
AND He was and still is a cutie!!!
jet
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Post# 24453-11/23/2002-21:38 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf or All
MESSAGE: I get a good head of suds in the 57 unimatic with new powdered All. I looked at the box when starting some whites a little while ago and there was no mention of lower suds or controlled sudsing, etc. I love to watch 90% of the bubble cake float away in the overflow wash! What a washer!
Bubble cakes are fun now and then, but I like to watch the clothes moving through the water more than a big pile of suds. Bring back orginal All and Dash!! (with phosphates)
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Post# 24454-11/23/2002-21:42 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (RE: Welcome Jerseymike)
MESSAGE: There is alot that Uni hasn't taken out of the box yet!!!!
Yeowooo I can't believe I just said that
signed--
waiting to be slapped in boston
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Post# 24455-11/23/2002-21:44 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GE "Spot Scrubber" washer worth fixing?
MESSAGE: I want one too! I grew up with a near BOL GE washer and dryer and have never seen a mini-basket in action. A neighbor of ours had one, but I was shooed away from the washer many a time. I would love to find a TOL model to play with now. They were very 'thirsty' washers, but I could install it next to a Westinghouse top-loader and start my own marina!
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Post# 24456-11/23/2002-21:44 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (Wolverine washer)
MESSAGE: Excuse me, but there are 12 year olds reading posts here.
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Post# 24457-11/23/2002-21:45 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Washer Memories (I already wrote it.)
MESSAGE: Yeah Jason I must have missed that one send us the link.
jet
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Post# 24458-11/23/2002-21:54 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf or All (Bubble Cakes????)
MESSAGE: I like that! I can make those in my '57 tee hee
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Post# 24459-11/23/2002-22:40 ||| Tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: My Christmas Present
MESSAGE: Thanks to Jimmy (Filter-Flo), my Christmas present will be in the form of an Avocado Frigidaire 1-18 set. They told me it will take about 14 days to get to me ... the waiting is always the hardest part! Jason, start saving up that laundry, it's almost time for more up & down wash action!!!
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Post# 24460-11/23/2002-22:51 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: GE "Spot Scrubber" washer worth fixing?
MESSAGE: I guess I could drag this washer back over to my place for a little labatomy. I am going to need something to wash my clothes in while I count the days til my new Frigidaire arrives. (Damn, I think I just sounded like a little housewife!)
-Alex
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Post# 24461-11/23/2002-22:56 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: My Christmas Present (YEAH!)
MESSAGE: And in my favorite color. I can't wait for the next Land Of Rust washin. Well, if I find my Holy Grail (1970 Kenmore 800 set), the 3rd Land of Rust washin will be at my house.
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Post# 24462-11/23/2002-23:01 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Washer Memories (Here it is)
MESSAGE: To the tune of Cat's In The Cradle by Harry Chapin
(No, I"m not going to do this to Wizard)
I washed my clothes just the other day
Put them in the dryer in usual way.
I closed the door and I turned the knob
And let the thing alone and do it's only job
but it was thumpin' and a bumpin'
and that's when I knew
That Fluffy's in there too, yeah
You know he's in there tooo....
Well the cat's in the dryer in the Frigidaire
tumbling around with my underwear
Is he gonna make it I don't know when
I know I'll have a dead cat then, yeah
you know I'll have a dead cat then.
The Frigmore arrived just the other day
1000 rpm's just blew me away
but now it's time to put 'em in the old Frigidaire
and put the clean clothes in alot of hot air
Then the old familiar noise and that's when I knew
That I didn't wash my shoes, no
Oh no, what did I do
Well the cat's in the dryer in the Frigidaire
tumbling around with my underwear
Is he gonna make it I don't know when
I know I'll have a dead cat then, yeah
you know I'll have a dead cat then.
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Post# 24463-11/23/2002-23:21 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: On the subject of the older GE Models
MESSAGE: Happy weekend all!
I have a question about he older agitator in the GE models.
While watching the vintage commercials that we have on the club, I noticed that the Easy Automatic had a agitator that looked similar to the design of the older GE models. Was it very close in design? It appeared to have the same type of wash motion.
My mom had GE washers for years. I do agree that they washed well. I love that "thump" of the water as it agitates. Brought back memories at Peter's Mat hearing his coin-op GE's.
My mom never had good luck with these machines concerning dependability, they seemed to break down with trannie problems under 5 years. Throwing grease on the laundry, that never seemed to come out of the clothes that were washing. I would say that my mom used it every day, but it was always several small loads. She finally gave up on them, and started with the first models of the electronic control Kenmore's, getting the newer models whenever they came out. She was so upset about the GE's throwing grease/oil from the transmission, that she never would let the Kenmore's die, with a fear that it would do the same thing as her GE's. I had no problem with this because she would give to me the older electronic models when she replaced them with the new model. I just wish that I would have kept them.
I am getting wiser the older I get!
Brent
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Post# 24464-11/23/2002-23:47 ||| Sseth (Phoenix, AZ)
SUBJECT: RE: GE "Spot Scrubber" washer worth fixing? (GE Filter Flow Models)
MESSAGE: JerseyMike:
We had the GE TOL Americana in harvest gold in the late 70's. You are describing the 'Dispensall' system. It was a strange system, indeed. Our model used a resevior for holding the chlorine bleach within the Dispensall Lid system. However, the later models allowed you to add the chlorine bleach into the Dispensall and would route it immediately to a port in the Left front, under the lid (a typical 'direct' bleach dispenser). While the system worked fairly well it had two main glitches: As it used recirculating wash/rinse water containing lint to flush through the compartments, the system would get clogged up with gunk and malfunction. Secondly, and probably related to the lint, the siphon drains to the bleach and softener dispensers would also clog up and leave pools of water in the Dispensall. This would cause a drippy wet spillage mess if you tried to open the filled lid. Quirks aside, it was truely an awsome, noisy, thirsty machine filled with great wash action ...I remember the General fondly!
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Post# 24465-11/23/2002-23:47 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: On the subject of the older GE Models
MESSAGE: The Spiralator was Easy and Hotpoint. GE had a straight vane agitator back in the 50s but they did design a spiraled Roto-Swirl wannabe agitator in the 60s. I remember my grandmother's 60s GE and the sounds. The GE sound that brings back memories for me is the "click-clack" of the mini-basket in agitation.
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Post# 24466-11/24/2002-00:01 ||| Sseth (Phoenix, AZ)
SUBJECT: Newest 'portable' 2.0 tub capacity washers
MESSAGE: Hi all:
I have a question that perhaps some of you experts may know the answer to. I am considering purchasing either a Kenmore, Whirlpool or GE 'compact' apartment sized top loading washer. I noticed that the Kenmore and Whirlpool unit are similiar to eachother, yet neither model resembles the 'traditional' Whirlpool design (Direct Drive, Dual Action Agitation). And, the GE has electronic touch pads with a stainless steel tub. Clearly, these are not 'traditional' GE characteristics. Does anyone know exactly who manufactures these newest units for Whirlpool/Kenmore and GE. Perhaps because they are so uncommon, the perspective companies 'hire out' to another manufacturer to produce these 'toy' sized washers. Any ideas?
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Post# 24467-11/24/2002-01:05 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: Washer Memories (Here it is)
MESSAGE: Nice Dittey..
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Post# 24468-11/24/2002-01:26 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: Newest 'portable' 2.0 tub capacity washers
MESSAGE: The compacts the last time I looked, 3 years ago, do not have transmissions. In order to make the agitator operate they rely on a computer to split second reverse the motor contunuously. The motor is attached directly to the agitator. The "problems" with this are that it makes an annoying sound when agitating. Start/Stop/Start/Stop,... Also if the washer is plugged into a circuit that your lights are on, the lights are constantly "bouncing"-up,down,up, down,... In responce to the motor constantly starting and drawing electricity.
I certainly hope this isn't the future for Whirlpool washers. I don't think it is a good design. I don't why they changed from the previous model, which worked great. It truly was a miniture of the current direct drive Whirlpools and Kenmores and actually was produced long before the current standard capacity direct drive models.
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Post# 24469-11/24/2002-01:57 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (In the box)
MESSAGE: And putten some things back into the box! Now we know why Gladys was in that Coca Cola box!
Too far away to be slapped!
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Post# 24470-11/24/2002-05:47 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: My Christmas Present
MESSAGE: Congratulations are certainly in order on that one. Sounds like your New Orleans Christmas will be lots of "good clean fun". Enjoy those machines! Perhaps one of these days, someone in the club will extend themselves and help me find one of those machines.............
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Post# 24471-11/24/2002-07:42 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Newest 'portable' 2.0 tub capacity washers
MESSAGE: This style of washer sounds like the style that has almost completely taken over here in Australia (for top loaders at least). The sound is indeed irritating and the flickering of lights must be a double nuisance in USA, on our 240volts it's generally not so noticeable, but on my solar power system it was very obvious, and wasteful of power as each change of direction takes another surge of power to get the motor up to speed again. They are generally very lightly constructed and don't have all that long a life. The originals of that design were Japanese and that is quite likely to be where the USA brand versions are sourced, or from Korea. The Australian companies Simpson and Hoover have made this type of washer since the mid eighties. They generally do a very good wash, much better than conventional agitator motion due to the very long stroke (often a full 360 degrees or more) but seem made to a price. The strong wash action suits the Aussie preference (not me) for washing everything in cold water.
The agitator isn't actually directly connected to the agitator, though it does look that way. In fact there is a small planetary gearbox in there, like the ones used in cordless drills but scaled up a bit. Some even have plastic gears. It is usually 5-to-1, 7-to-1 or 9-to-1 reduction. So for example in a 7-to-1, the agitator turns at one-seventh of spin speed. The Hoover Premier used a 7-to-1.
Pray that it is not the future of top load washers in USA. You may in future be looking back fondly at current GE and Frigidaire TL's for their ruggedness and reliability. (!!)
Chris.
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Post# 24472-11/24/2002-07:50 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Newest 'portable' 2.0 tub capacity washers
MESSAGE: I have a belt drive 1977 Lady Kenmore portable washer. It has a dreadfully small capacity but it is a belt drive Kenmore and it makes all the cool sounds like a full sized Kenmore.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/kenmore800/lst?.dir=/pictures/Lady+Kenmore+portable&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/kenmore800/vwp%3f.dir=/pictures/Lady%2bKenmore%2bportable%26.dnm=thenetwork.jpg%26.src=ph&.view=t
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Post# 24473-11/24/2002-07:57 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: GE "Spot Scrubber" washer worth fixing? (GE Filter Flow Models)
MESSAGE: Sseth:
Thanks for getting back to me. I often wondered how that system worked. Quirks aside, it sounds like it was a great machine.
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Post# 24474-11/24/2002-07:59 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Washer Memories (Here it is)
MESSAGE: Wow! Great song. Thanks for sharing. :-)
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Post# 24475-11/24/2002-08:29 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE "Spot Scrubber" washer worth fixing? (GE Filter Flow Models)
MESSAGE: The problem with the Dispensall is you couldn't open the lid to watch it run. I have a problem with any washer that won't let see what it's doing, like Maytag.
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Post# 24476-11/24/2002-08:32 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Atomic Warehouse in PA
MESSAGE: That store is on my way to one of my yearly roller coaster trips. Next year when I go to Knoebels Amusement Park in PA, I'm going to stop in and take some pics.
Those old bikes are COOL! I saw a BMW in there and I wonder what the others are. Hopefully, they're British bikes as well. Harleys are cool but Brit bikes rock!
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Post# 24477-11/24/2002-08:40 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: POD - Californ-y is the place ya' oughtta be....
MESSAGE: So they loaded it up the truck and they moved to Beverly... hills that is...
Push button Maytags, movie stars.
"JEDDDDD!!! How do ya suppose I run this new fangled warshin' ma-sheen?!"
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Post# 24478-11/24/2002-08:51 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Californ-y is the place ya' oughtta be.... (Push Button Maytags (11/24/02 -- Picture of the Day) )
MESSAGE: LOL. I also thought of the Beverly Hillbillies when I saw that picture! :-) A friend of my mother actually had the 1970's version of the push button Maytag. It had a matching push button dryer. I remember her once telling mom that she didn't like the dryer because you couldn't adjust the settings from what they were programed to do.
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Post# 24479-11/24/2002-09:17 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (Wolverine washer)
MESSAGE: hi jersey mike...i am originally from bayside, new york....live in palm springs, CA for 5 years now....when i was a kid, my parents gave me a toy battery operated washing machine...i would was little pink ribbons off candy boxes in it...the put them on steam riser pipe in the bathroom in the wintertime and they would dry right away.....i remember the machine was light blue with tiny light blue agitator....my parents also gave me a toy dishwasher...i guess they are now both in "toy heaven"....ross roberts in palm springs, CA
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Post# 24480-11/24/2002-09:20 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf or All (all detergent)
MESSAGE: hi there....i noticed that too....it no longer says "controlled suds"...i like all anyway as a nice break from tide....i have used all in the 1947 bendix front loader i just got but have to be careful not to use too much otherwise suds all the way up the window....i looked in supermarket yesterday....not one detergent claims to be "low suds"....and with all the new front loaders that are coming back these days i am surprised...
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Post# 24481-11/24/2002-09:25 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (chilldhood memories)
MESSAGE: hi there....my parents gave up on me early...my mom knew that she could keep me quiet if she did a wash in our thor and i was parked in front of it with my head hanging over the tub watching the wash action...my dad once offered neighborhood kid a quarter to get me out the laundry room and play ball....but it didnt work....ross roberts in palm springs, CA
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Post# 24482-11/24/2002-09:28 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Newest 'portable' 2.0 tub capacity washers
MESSAGE: I think those newer portable GE's are sourced from Haier. If it's the one with the clear, bifold lid.
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Post# 24483-11/24/2002-10:05 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Newest 'portable' 2.0 tub capacity washers (Haier "
Calypso"
?)
MESSAGE: Here's a link. The older model used to have a smoked plexiglass lid, looks like this year they went to blue and molded in a grab handle. When I read the specs it sounded like a mini "calypso" washer.
Here's what Haier is saying;
"Haier Hand-Wash System - The top-load Hand Wash System is designed without a central agitator, which increases the machines clothes capacity and gently cleans your delicate washables. The specially designed pulsator at the bottom of the unit creates a cascading motion that gently lifts and bounces clothes through a continuous waterfall. This unique washing motion created by the pulsator allows the laundering of delicate washables that previously required costly and time consuming professional or hand washing."
-Alex
LINK: http://www.haieramerica.com/products.php?pid=64
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Post# 24484-11/24/2002-10:17 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf or All (all detergent)
MESSAGE: I agree, low sudsing detergents are hard to find and that's important for those of use who use front loaders. Too much suds can have a negative impact on a front loader's washing performance. (The laundry room in my apartment building has coin operated Neptunes. Their windowless doors make it impossible to monitor suds levels.) They've created those "HE" detergents for front loaders, but not everyone can use the most widely available versions.
I have very sensitive skin and have to use the "free" version of most laundry products, including detergent, fabric softener, dryer sheets, etc. The problem is immediate, I know that I'm in trouble if I experience a burning sensation when I fold laundry (and sometimes when I transfer wet laundry to the dryer). Both Wisk and Tide come in HE versions. I recently had a problem with Wish HE. I've been lucky so far, with Tide HE, but I dread the prospect of a "new and improved" version. I've had problems with the "new and improved" versions of other laundry products in the past.
I sent e-mails to both Tide and Wisk asking about "Free and Clear" HE version. There response was the market share of both products was too small to justify multiple HE versions. By doing a google search for "Free and Clear High Efficiency Detergents", I was able to find a "Free" version of a detergent called Persil. It's made in Europe and is very expensive -- $22, including shipping, for an 18 load bag of powdered detergent. OUCH! I ordered it once. I was happy with the way it washed, but I can't afford to order it on a regular basis.
LINK: http://www.totalvac.com/store/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=totalvac&Product_Code=Persilsensitive&Category_Code=persil
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Post# 24485-11/24/2002-10:39 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (Wolverine washer)
MESSAGE: Hi Ross,
I know Bayside. Bell Blvd. has become the place to see and be seen among my Long Island cousins' Generation Xer kids. I'm also jealous of you toy washer and dishwasher. Wish I had one or both while growing up.
JerseyMike
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Post# 24486-11/24/2002-10:46 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: Newest 'portable' 2.0 tub capacity washers (so lucky)
MESSAGE: I always thought those washers were so cute, being a miniature of the large ones. And look you even have the add on temperature switch with dual inlet valve off the back. This tells me yours was originally made just as a portable with the slide in hose and possibly a spring loaded cord rewind. your so lucky. And it looks like it is in such good shape.
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Post# 24487-11/24/2002-11:12 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Newest 'portable' 2.0 tub capacity washers (Check this out)
MESSAGE: Surfing Haier's website, find "Your Ideal Product". Crank up the stereo and listen to the cool music.
LINK: http://www.haieramerica.com/ideal_product.php
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Post# 24488-11/24/2002-11:13 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Newest 'portable' 2.0 tub capacity washers (so lucky)
MESSAGE: Thanks. I got it at the first "Land Of Rust" Wash-in from Tcox619. It was at a house he was selling in a storage shed. I brought it home and plugged it in and it worked. In fact, I just washed some towels in it today.
FUN!
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Post# 24489-11/24/2002-12:14 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Newest 'portable' 2.0 tub capacity washers
MESSAGE: That seems very much like the design of my Fisher & Paykel (a full-size top-loader), but there is no dimming-of-the-lights involved and the sound isn't annoying to me at all.
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Post# 24490-11/24/2002-13:19 ||| westie2 (arkansas)
SUBJECT: Best Washer Help
MESSAGE: 1996 Kenmore 80 is almost dead. Have had repairman out 8 times in the 6 years we have had it. It is spining during drain down and leaking water. Is it worth having it fixed again. If we purchase a new washer what is the best. Wife thinks she doesn't want a F/L due to bad back and bending. We had a 1984 TOL Hotpont with the small agitator under the big one. Got dropped off moving van in 96 so company replaced it with one we have. We still cry for it as was such a good machine.
Charles
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Post# 24491-11/24/2002-13:45 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: GE "Spot Scrubber" washer worth fixing? (GE Filter Flow Models)
MESSAGE: So, the Filter Flo water went through the dispenser first, then down through the pan? I can see where that would have clogged up. I had a Sears with those water siphon dispensers and they work good, but you have to keep them clean. The machine's current owner did have the dispenser replaced at one point, and was told it was common they need replacing.
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Post# 24492-11/24/2002-13:50 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: Any belt driven whirlpool smarties out there?
MESSAGE: Heya guys,
I must be a complete idiot, i took apart a whirlpool washer that needed a transmission, well i swapped out the tranny but now the thing is stuck in spin during agitate and drain and obviously spin, its definetely not the wigwag i can see it doing its thing pulling the spin tube down but it seems the spin tube is locked in spin. did i miss something putting the thing back together or do i need to do something to make the spin tube work properly? HELLLLPP =)
~Steven
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Post# 24493-11/24/2002-14:05 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Any belt driven whirlpool smarties out there?
MESSAGE: The belt is too tight.
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Post# 24494-11/24/2002-14:19 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: Any belt driven whirlpool smarties out there?
MESSAGE: It might be as simple as reversing the colored wires on the "wig/wag"- the part with 3 wires coming into it on the transmission that engages and at different times.
Also it could be that one of the wires is broke. I had this happen once. one little wire broke(from the movement) and the whole machine seemed defective.
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Post# 24495-11/24/2002-16:53 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: Belt Drive Whirlpool problem
MESSAGE: Having replaced and installed hundreds of Whirlpool trannys, you most likely have the following problem: There is a plastic/fibre bearing that the flywheel/spin pully rides on. There is a keyway in this bearing and a silver metal ball bearing about half the size of a marble that fits in the bearing keyway. This ball bearing is what determines the clearance of the spin pully on top of the tranny. I know from vast experience fixing these machines that the bearing falls out very easily and rolls away unnoticed by the repair person. It is absolutely necessary that the bearing be present. Check to see if you lost it............
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Post# 24496-11/24/2002-18:30 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: Any belt driven whirlpool smarties out there? (thanks everyone =))
MESSAGE: I'll go downstairs and try the suggestions!
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Post# 24497-11/24/2002-18:34 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Newest 'portable' 2.0 tub capacity washers (F&P vs Generic washers)
MESSAGE: Hi DADoES,
You are right, the wash action is similar but it is achieved differently. The F&P uses the brilliant Smart Drive motor, where the motor speed is dictated by the speed of pulses sent to it by the microcontroller. The F&P has virtually no start up surge so that's why there is no dimming of the lights. The difference between spin speed and agitate speed is dictated by the motor speed only. On the Generic washers like Hitachi, Hoover and Simpson, and now Samsung, Daewoo, LG and Haier and their OEM clones, a conventional induction motor is used to drive through a reduction gear for agitate (or "pulsate" for an impeller style washer) and for spin the gearbox locks up to give direct drive. The induction motor and the planetary gearbox both have characteristic noises which are to my ear at least much more irritating than the rhythmic whirr of the F&P on wash, though they are generally quieter on spin. (but not as fast). The clones also have a solenoid operated brake release on spin, which at least on the Aussie ones is so loud that they now come with a note inside "when spin cycle begins a loud noise indicates normal functioning of the brake release. This noise is not a fault." And your F&P will still be going long after the clones are all at the tip.
Best Wishes
Chris
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Post# 24498-11/24/2002-19:00 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: Belt Drive Whirlpool problem
MESSAGE: Hello,
I think its the little bearing, i noticed that the white plastic part doesn't turn along with the shaft when the machine agitates and on the old transmission it does because the little ball holds it in place so it turns with the agitator. Ugh, i was so proud of myself for doing a complete rebuild on it and now i have to take the entire thing apart again!! But thanks FilterFlo I think you hit the nail on the head, err i mean the bearing in the groove =)
I'll take pics...
~Steven
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Post# 24499-11/24/2002-19:44 ||| pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Best Washer Help (Best Washer)
MESSAGE: In my opinion, the best top load washer out there for quality/price ratio is the Maytag extra large capacity. Some of them are called Atlantis, some have stainless steel baskets, some white enamel, some plastic, and blah blah. You will pay close to $450-500 for a Maytag(not a Performa by Maytag,steer clear) Maytags are the easiest washers to fix by the common person,and parts are readily available.
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Post# 24500-11/24/2002-20:44 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: Belt Drive Whirlpool problem (bad spin tube or too much greace)
MESSAGE: Hello,
THe little ball is in its rightful place filterflo, i did put alot of zoom oil on the spin tube do you think its just sliding on the brake or is my spin tube busted?
Thanks
~Lost in belt drive land.
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Post# 24501-11/24/2002-20:56 ||| eagerbeaver (Toronto, Canada)
SUBJECT: Help! My one eyed frog needs Viagra!
MESSAGE: Gosh, did I say Viagra? I meant NIAGARA! Hi, sorry I haven't stopped by for umpteen months and it would serve me right if you all ignore me. Pretty please, could someone tell us how to get the "waterfall" (recirculating thing that pours the water back into the top of the tub through the lint filter) rescuscitated on our 50's Kenmore? After ages of having them sit in the garage, we broke down and paid a guy to come in and overhaul our "one eyed frogs" so I can install them in my main laundry room. I'd actually given up on the idea and ordered a pair of Duets, which were the first new machines to come along in ages that really made me do a double take. But on reconsideration I couldn't live with the thought of all that complexity & plastic! We had a tough time finding anybody willing to work on our old machines, finally found this one old codger and he meant well I'm sure, but buggered it all up. He actually managed to find a brand new outer tub and one of those swaying things that hangs on long rods, that the tub sits on, both of which had rust starting up. The machine runs great and should last for another 50 years now from the looks of the innards, but he disconnected the waterfall and the suds saver in the process- didn't think they were essential to the repair. Hubby & I have been looking at it, (we've only ever worked on old cars before) and are theorizing that the a.w.o.l. recirculating hose might hook up to an outlet that sticks straight down from the pump, then back up into a big hole in the side of the tub, currently plugged. There's another outlet on the side of the pump, which is the only one hooked up now, that connects by a longer hose to the back of the lint trap but nothing's coming out any more- it used to be such a fat, gorgeous stream, it was one of my favourite things when we were playing around with the machine with the garden hose last summer. The service guy acted puzzled but I bet he knew darn well it wouldn't work. I let him talk me into deliberately removing the suds saver, saying it was "just an old gimmick". How could I be so dumb?! I don't care about the money we spent on the repairman, I just want to take it all apart agin and re-install the missing bits! Would it be possible to safely plug off the suds saver at the outlet for now, in case I ever want to use it in future? If anyone could advise us, or email if it's too long for the forum, I'd be grateful to the end of my washdays! Alternatively, if any of you have a service (not user's, I have one of those) manual for this kind of machine you wouldn't mind sharing, I'd be grateful for a photocopy at whatever price you need- I'm so in love with these old clunkers and have had NO luck finding any other sets, of ANY brand, around here in ANY condition. Thanks!!!
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Post# 24502-11/24/2002-21:15 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Best Washer Help
MESSAGE: Hi - Your question about the best modern washer to purchase would best be answered at the Appliances Forum. Our focus here is vintage or classic appliances and we try to keep our server and bandwidth expenses as economical as possible so it is important to us to stay on the vintage or classic appliance topics only. You will be overwhelmed with the amount of good information available in the other forum, I've linked you to it below. I read threads all the time there, some of the tests the members conduct are quite scientific and interesting to read.
Good luck in your search!
Greg
LINK: http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/appl/
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Post# 24503-11/24/2002-22:20 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: Anybody Seen Far from Heaven?
MESSAGE: Was wondering what if any appliances make their appearance. I am a huge Sirk fan; might make the movie a Thanksgiving Day outing (when the hell else do I have time to see a movie?)
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Post# 24504-11/24/2002-22:39 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf or All (all detergent)
MESSAGE: Hi Jersey Mike, Check out Sears, they have an HE detergent that is labeled as free and it is low sudsing. I have great luck with their regular HE detergent. Hope this helps. Terry
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Post# 24505-11/24/2002-23:13 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf or All (all detergent)
MESSAGE: Hi Terry. Thanks! I'll swing past Sears on my way home from work tomorrow. I knew that there was a reason why I didn't get around to doing laundry today. Thanks again. Mike
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Post# 24506-11/24/2002-23:28 ||| Ironrite (Las Vegas NV)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf or All (Sensitive Skin)
MESSAGE: You might want to look for Ecos. It's a natural soap type liquid detergent. I get mine at Trader Joes, but I've seen it in natural food markets. I think it's about $10.00 for a 64 load bottle. I use though, about 1/2 a capful. It works very well in my Frigidaire F/L and keeps a low suds level. Of course our water here in Las Vegas is hard as rocks.
It also claims to have a built in fabric softener. I've used it without a softener and it does seem to control wrinkles and static cling.
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Post# 24507-11/25/2002-00:16 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf or All (Sensitive Skin)
MESSAGE: Thanks, Ironrite. I've seen it at Trader Joes. I've hesitated to try it, because I've literally been burned by other laundry products. I can't even begin to tell you how many times I've had rewash multiple loads of laundry (one advantage of not having my own machine is that I can do a weeks worth of laundry at once. :-)) because of a reaction to a laundry product. The way I figure it, I haven't got anything to lose. (Keep your fingers crossed. :-)) I'll pick up a bottle the next time I'm at Trader Joes. Thanks again. Mike
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Post# 24508-11/25/2002-05:43 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf or All (all detergent)
MESSAGE: Hi, Ross. If you are looking for a low suds detergent, try any of the following: Tide HE(powder or liquid), Wisk HE (liquid), Wisk, Surf or Purex tablets(but NOT Tide tablets), any of the Fab powders, or Fresh Start. Some supermarkets will carry all of these brands, or at least some of them.
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Post# 24509-11/25/2002-05:52 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Best Washer Help (Best Washer)
MESSAGE: Well, I understand that the current Maytag "Performa" line includes two distinct models. One is the original Performa which I guess is the old Tragic Chef design, and now the original reliable Maytag design (called Dependable Care) has been consolidated into the Performa lineup. I believe this is the true Maytag design and can be identified as the model numbers begin with LAT, while the Tragic Chef descendants' model numbers begin with PAV. So it may be worth looking at the current Performa line, but only certain model numbers. unfortunately, the LAT series washers have slightly smaller tubs -but certainly adequate enough and they have fewer bells and whistles than the Atlantis
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Post# 24510-11/25/2002-07:21 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Anybody Seen Far from Heaven?
MESSAGE: I saw it and I'm a big Douglas Sirk fan myself. While watching the film I was keeping a watchful eye open for some good 50's appliances since the story is set in 1957 but alas no washers or dryers. Must have been one of thosehouseholds with the laundry equipment kept in the basement out of sight. I did enjoy seeing the 1956 Buick Special two-tone station wagon Julianne Moore drove. My mom had a 56 Buick Roadmaster 4-door sedan just like it.
I did get a nice view of a Kelvinator electric stove and matching refrigerator in an old Cary Grant movie called "Monkey Business" the other evening. Ginger Rogers was cooking and the camera zoomed in very close to the Kelvinator name on the control panel of the stove.
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Post# 24511-11/25/2002-14:14 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf or All (all detergent)
MESSAGE: I don't use TIDE or any P&G product, since they test it in the eyes of animals, according to PETA. Mark
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Post# 24512-11/25/2002-14:30 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Best Washer Help
MESSAGE: Hi Charles! Check to see that the washer isn't spinning durring the agitation as well. If it is, the brake needs to be relined....it could also be the wig-wag solenoid or a wire leading to.... As far as the leaking, grab hold of the top of the agitator and move it back and forth. If there is any play from side to side, then the bearing needs to be replaced as this will cause it to leak....look up under the machine and see if the water is leaking from the central parts above the transmission...check these things and let us know! Mark
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Post# 24513-11/25/2002-14:50 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Best Washer Help
MESSAGE: Charles, If you do replace the washer, you might want to go to an appliance store that sells used rebuilt washers. There's still some good ones out there. I personally would much rather have a 10 year old Maytag, or really any brand, than a new one. The new ones are built so cheaply with a pretty hefty price tag. While Maytag is a favorite of mine, I really wouldn't reccommend a new one, as the newer ones don't seem to hold up that well. A friend of mine has a two year old Maytag that is already rusting!....and I know of no brand that is really any better. Speed Queen/Amana has transmission troubles. Maytag has had lots of leaky transmission troubles lately.....not to mention putting plastic parts where they don't belong. GE is a nightmare from any standpoint. The Fisher Paykel seem to have controller problems as well as leaky tub seals....and their dryer is nothing more than a glorrified GE! Whirlpools are not too bad but are real water hogs, if water is a problem in your area. I know of no other top loader that's even worth mentioning....except the calypso...people that have them either love them or hate them....the Sear's tech said that they have replaced lots of water pumps in those machines....so it's anybody's guess! Mark
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Post# 24514-11/25/2002-15:10 ||| thegreatfixer (Israel)
SUBJECT: old westinghouse w/contacter
MESSAGE: hi there i have an old westinghouse dryer w/a contacter and three heating elements i need detailed info on rewireing it for differant current someone with info please email me thegreatfixer@yahoo.com
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Post# 24515-11/25/2002-15:27 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Best Washer Help
MESSAGE: Excellent suggestions. When I was in college one of our coin-op Kenmores developed a bad brake and caused the tub to spin during agitation. My old 55 GE had the same problem and so did my aunt's 56 Frigidaire.
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Post# 24516-11/25/2002-15:29 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Best Washer Help
MESSAGE: The new GE's are frightful they are so cheaply built and unreliable. It's a crime what that company has done to what was once a really fine machine.
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Post# 24517-11/25/2002-17:47 ||| TrainGuy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: Help! My one eyed frog needs Viagra! (Welcome Back!)
MESSAGE: Hi Kathy,
Glad to see you're still with us. Sorry I can't help you out with Kenmore questions. But there are a lot of Kenmore experts in Applianceville.
I'll be coming to Toronto Thursday and will check out the usual appliance stores. The people are not too receptive to me bugging them. They always tell me the same thing - that there is a local lady who they save the oldies for. I still look anyway. Best of luck with your '57 washer repairs.
Rich
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Post# 24518-11/25/2002-19:00 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Help! My one eyed frog needs Viagra!
MESSAGE: The expert that you want to talk to on this one is Bob Wirth. Mark
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Post# 24519-11/25/2002-20:40 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: A present for cleanteam
MESSAGE: Remember the kenmore with the agitator you liked? Well i sold that lady a dryer today and asked if i could swap agitators (came across a dual action kenmore and yanked out the agi) you still want it? So I have it at home if you want it...
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Post# 24520-11/25/2002-20:42 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: Porcelin tubs
MESSAGE: Hello all,
Is it possible to make a tub thats got the white porcelin flecks all white? Is that powder coating or porcelin or ? any thoughts on doing that =)
Oh and incidentally the whirlpools fine now, i forgot to put onthe little washer that goes on the plunger for the spin side of the wigwag, works great now! Thanks for all the help =)
~S
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Post# 24521-11/25/2002-20:45 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: Best Washer Help (??)
MESSAGE: uh guys wouldn't 96 indicate its a direct drive machine?
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Post# 24522-11/25/2002-21:11 ||| westie2 (arkansas)
SUBJECT: RE: Best Washer Help
MESSAGE: Checked the agitator and wasn't loose. It does not spin during wash just on drain down and only on the Ultra Wash perm press and regular was are ok as is the second rinse option spin. I have to wait until weekend to look inside the machine for the slow leak. Still has warrenty so will call service man again. WE do have the washer in a floor pan as it has flooded 3 times in the past put this pan in when we built this house in 2000. The are well worth the 20.00 we spent at Lowes recomend this for anyone with inside utility.
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Post# 24523-11/25/2002-22:09 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Best Washer Help (??)
MESSAGE: Sounds like something too new for this site...
-ph
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Post# 24524-11/25/2002-23:12 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: Anybody Seen Far from Heaven? (A Beautiful Mind)
MESSAGE: Well, Im disappointed, but still plan to see the movie. Will have to check out "Monkey Business". I finally got around to renting "A Beautiful Mind" 2 weeks ago; the dishwasher in the kitchen was a nice surprise.
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Post# 24525-11/26/2002-02:34 ||| eagerbeaver (Toronto, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Help! My one eyed frog needs Viagra! ('55 or '57 Kenmore)
MESSAGE: Gee thanks Rich, I don't deserve old faithful appliance pals like you! You seem to get to T.O. a lot so, is it just me, or is this burg a washer/dryer DESERT? Yeah right, "we save the oldies for a local lady"- I haven't heard a peep out of any of them in all this time!
I do have a lot of Kenmore questions now so I hope some of the experts hereabouts will take pity on me- or at least my old washer- but there are other dilemmas that are probably generic. Here are a couple off the top of my head:
1. Back when it still had the original outer drum, we tried the washer on spin without any water in it, just to see if the cycle worked. It did, and not only that, but when the air passed between the basket and the drum it made this funny whistling or humming sound, sort of like that singing sword in Bugs Bunny. Now with the new drum, it's dead silent. Does that mean we've lost spin speed or g-forces or something? Now that I understand a bit more about what makes a good washer due to having researched those Duets, I assume losing spin speed would be DEADLY on an already pokey old thing like this!
2. If the above is true, could it be because of the new drum? If so, is it possible to save an old drum that's generally solid but has a few small bad spots, e.g. with bondo or goop or something?
3 If it's not the drum, could it be the tranny? I forgot to say, the repair guy replaced that too, the old one might have been working and did seem to be doing its thing so far as we could tell back in summer, but there were a lot of old oil spatters inside the cabinet, which could have been from a previous tranny but he didn't want to take any chances & ordered a new one. Is there any advantage, in general, to keeping an original tranny even if you might have to rebuild it, rather than replace it with a new one? I only ask this because one time in a pinch we replaced the transmission in one of our diesel Rabbits with one from a gas model, and it took all the pep (relatively speaking) out of it.
3. What are the chances of complete neophytes getting a plastic control panel off in one piece, to touch up the paint in behind?
Well, lots more where those came from, but I better shut up now before I wear out my welcome. Oh, and the bad news is, we haven't even started on the dryer yet, because the service guy couldn't figure out how to wire on a plug & is currently looking for another 2-pulley dinosaur as a sample! Arrrgh! Thanks again! Kathy
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Post# 24526-11/26/2002-02:38 ||| eagerbeaver (Toronto, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Help! My one eyed frog needs Viagra! (Kenmore expertise)
MESSAGE: Thanks Mark. Is Bob Wirth a member here, and if so, what is his Applianceville ID? I sure wouldn't mind his email address! Thanks again, Kathy
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Post# 24527-11/26/2002-02:41 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: Hey Check this out! Only 10 years old ;)
MESSAGE: Some one is selling their belt drive whirlpool on ebay.
They claim it is about 10 years old!!!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2075692636&category=20714
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Post# 24528-11/26/2002-04:31 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Hey Check this out! Only 10 years old ;)
MESSAGE: Gee, it looks like it is from the early 60's - so it certainly is "at least 10 years old". But the agitator looks like they replaced the old one with the wavy vaned Surgilator......
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Post# 24529-11/26/2002-06:47 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Hey Check this out! Only 10 years old ;) (If I lived in Pennsylvania)
MESSAGE: I would bid on it in a heartbeat. It's in beautiful shape for being early 60s. I'd have to hunt for an original black/chrome top agitator though. That generic white Surgilator must go.
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Post# 24530-11/26/2002-09:19 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: MY OLD KENMORES - for Terry & others interested
MESSAGE: Here's a shot showing my Kenmores all back together.
Notice the sharp contrast between the black rubber foot pads and the pink floor. This is no accident. Dryers did not feature rubber foot pads, originally, however, I am going to add them for the sake for visual uniformity. They also help make the machines operate more quietly, by insulating them from the resonant cement floor.
Speaking of quiet, these machines operate in a nearly silent fashion, and are two of the quietest machines in the collection. Try that with your Frigidaire 1-18.
I , personally, wouldn't have one of those thrashing machines in my house (any longer ) as I have owned a number of them through the years, and I know what I'm talking about. Unimatics or multi matics are fine, but those 1-18 are all about how hard they can thrash, until they eventually thrash themselves right to pieces.
To each, his own.
BOB
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/MY%20OLD%20KENMORES.JPG
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Post# 24531-11/26/2002-09:42 ||| Tsirsv (Charleston, wv)
SUBJECT: RE: Modern Maid/McGraw Edison built-in toaster? (--and Nutone Food Center too)
MESSAGE: I am interested in the Nu Tone food center.
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Post# 24532-11/26/2002-09:47 ||| Tsirsv (Charleston, wv)
SUBJECT: RE: Modern Maid/McGraw Edison built-in toaster? (--and Nutone Food Center too)
MESSAGE: I am interested in the Nu Tone Food Center
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Post# 24533-11/26/2002-10:16 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Modern Maid/McGraw Edison built-in toaster? (--and Nutone Food Center too)
MESSAGE: I have one of the last ones built in my kitchen. It was installed in 1989 under the Iron Away brand. It has NOT been a very good toaster. Been repaired 3 times and it gets little use. The man that does the repairs has told me that parts are no longer available for these toasters and of course he goes on and on about how cheaply made they were. Mark
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Post# 24534-11/26/2002-10:49 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Best Washer Help
MESSAGE: 1996, not 1976
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Post# 24535-11/26/2002-10:51 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Hey Check this out! Only 10 years old ;)
MESSAGE: That is a late 60's early 70's machine. The early ones said RCA Whirlpool, had the black bakelite agitator and the clear magic mix brush.
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Post# 24536-11/26/2002-11:11 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: Hey Check this out! Only 10 years old ;) (OLDER WHIRLPOOL on ebay (at least 30 yrs old))
MESSAGE: I agree with Hqots. This washer is late 60's or early 70's, and the white agitator is most likely the original to the machine.
By the way, I've got one of those clear center, chrome trimmed brush type filters, for the RCA Whirlpool washer, in good condition, in case anyone needs it.
BOB
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/FILTER.JPG
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Post# 24537-11/26/2002-12:58 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: Free amana radarange and norge burp filters?
MESSAGE: I know you guys like these and i found one outside a thrift store and thought someone here would want it. =)
Also i got a monkey wards machine that spits water when it washes just like uni's norge does, is it the same under workings?? Can anyone give me a lead on why it doesn't spin but the motor runs and pumps?
Oh and i took a picture of the agitator i took out for cleanteam if he still wants it. All the pics are in the link below...
Thanks for always bein so helpful!
~Steven
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/washerstuff/vwp?.dir=/my+washers&.src=ph&.dnm=Washers+041.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/washerstuff/lst%3f%26.dir=/my%2bwashers%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 24538-11/26/2002-13:23 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: Free amana radarange and norge burp filters? (not spinning)
MESSAGE: Take the front off your washer (by removing the two 5/16 nuts ) and you'll see a big solenoid near the bottom of the mechanism - that's the brake solenoid. If anything is wrong with this, it won't let loose the brake and allow the machine to spin. Check to see that both wires are attached, and that the solenoid itself still has continuity. Also check and see that it throws freely, and indeed, does disengage the brake pawl.
Take a picture, while you're at it, and that'll help anyone else here to try and diagnose your issues. Of course, the lid switch on the machine must also be in good working order, because this washer will not spin if it thinks the lid is 'open'.
Best of luck.
BOB
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Post# 24539-11/26/2002-15:18 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: Free amana radarange and norge burp filters? (not spinning)
MESSAGE: hiya bob,
Yeah i see the big solonoid, it doesn't have power but when i pull it back it does spin, tracked it up to the lid switch and wired the 2 wires together, no joy. I'm thinking its the timer, plus when you start the machine it never fills, just progresses right to dry agitation so more evidence to support a bad timer? Hope apc doesn't gouge me for a part =)
Thanks Much,
Snorges are pretty cool under the hood. Looks like an orbital tranny maytag to me. Bet that brake makes a racket when i stops the basket!
~Steven
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Post# 24540-11/26/2002-15:22 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hey Check this out! Only 10 years old ;)
MESSAGE: That's too funny, aaarrroohhh! You of course may not be familiar, but this washer is more like 30-35 years old. A nice one it is though! Scott
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Post# 24541-11/26/2002-16:21 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Free amana radarange and norge burp filters? (not spinning)
MESSAGE: Steve, it could be the water level switch (pressure switch) that is faulty. I don't think that machine will release the brake (energize the brake solenoid) until the tub is nearly drained.....sort of a partial neutral-drain. Your comment that the machine agitates when empty is the key here.....it should not do this......I'm thinking the contacts that energize the main motor and timer advancement are welded/stuck. If you can find the wiring diagram, it'll tell you which contacts to check with you ohm-meter. Good luck!
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Post# 24542-11/26/2002-17:00 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: MY OLD KENMORES - for Terry & others interested
MESSAGE: Bob,
Very nice~!
-Alex
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Post# 24543-11/26/2002-17:07 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: Free amana radarange and norge burp filters? (not spinning WATER LEVEL SWITCH)
MESSAGE: Yup. Sounds like you have a bad water level switch to me, too, at this point.
Do let us know how you make out with it. Sounds like you've elimated most of the possibilities now. Go at the water level switch and see what you can find. Take the clear pressure tube off it and try blowing with your lips onto the fitting...you should hear a little clicking sound when the pressure is equal to that of a full tub of water, and when you stop blowing, you should hear another click when the switch returns to the normal position, as with no water present. It is usually the center terminal which is common, and the switch goes between the center and either of the two outside terminals. check the wiring diagram.
BOB
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Post# 24544-11/26/2002-17:09 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: MY OLD KENMORES - for Terry & others interested (THANK YOU)
MESSAGE: Thank you, Alex, for the compliment.
I just LOVE my Kenmores. They're sweet.
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Post# 24545-11/26/2002-19:36 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: early 60s GE wash/dry
MESSAGE: Anyone need a matching white GE filter-flo washer and dryer from the late 50s or early 60s?
They are both in fairly good condition. The washer has the "traditional" clipped corner lid. They are similiar to the picture in the "rewards" section of the site under GE, 3rd picture from the left. The tub is black perforated with black agitator. It has the smallest mini basket I have ever seen along with the filter-flo pan. The buttons are white piano key type that you push down(as apposed to in). It includes selections for speeds, temperatures, water level, and sudsaver. The matching dryer is called a "compensating dryer" ? but it matches. Let me know if interested. They are in the Milwaukee, Wisconsin area.
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Post# 24546-11/26/2002-19:56 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Free amana radarange and norge burp filters? (OMG!)
MESSAGE: My Aunt has that same washer w/ matching dryer! The dryer squeaks but that is fine to me. That has been a dream since I was little! That was the only Montgomery Wards washer I ever saw! It was always scary to me. It was loud when changing cycles. An earpeircing clang was heard, I will always duck and cover when that machine is running! It is so cool! The control board always looked "angry" to me. I have always been dying to have a machine like that. Hint Hint ;-)
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/washerstuff/vwp?.dir=/my+washers&.src=ph&.dnm=Washers+029.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/washerstuff/lst%3f%26.dir=/my%2bwashers%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 24547-11/26/2002-19:57 ||| cleanteamofny (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: A present for cleanteam
MESSAGE: Yes, yes, yes!
I will E-mail you!
Thanks,
Larry
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Post# 24548-11/26/2002-20:28 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: MY OLD KENMORES - for Terry & others interested
MESSAGE: Beautiful machines! Handsome man, too.
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Post# 24549-11/26/2002-21:17 ||| Sward4 (Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Modern Maid/McGraw Edison built-in toaster? (--and Nutone Food Center too)
MESSAGE: If you still have the attachments for your Nutone
Food Center Model 250 and will be disposing of them.
I would be interested in purchasing them. Please
send me a list of what attachments you have and the
asking price.
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Post# 24550-11/26/2002-22:14 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Free amana radarange and norge burp filters? (Radar Range)
MESSAGE: Does the Radarrange work and how much would it cost to ship it to New Orleans, LA?
If the shipping isn't bad and it works, I'll take it. That's one of my dream machines.
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Post# 24551-11/26/2002-22:18 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Free amana radarange and norge burp filters?
MESSAGE: That's funny.
I was just at my friend's house watching his tired old Magic Chef washer (which has the same insides, EXACT same agitator). The agitation sounds almost like Uni's Norge. It goes uuUUUuuuUUUuuuUUUUuuuUUUUuuuhhhhh....
Unfortunately, the old washer's leaking water and the rust is eating her alive. Washers down here in New Orleans die a slow and painful death.
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Post# 24552-11/26/2002-22:20 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: MY OLD KENMORES - for Terry & others interested (THANK YOU)
MESSAGE: Kenmores are so Kool!
Nothing like the Kenmore whine at the end of a long, stressful day.
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Post# 24553-11/26/2002-23:57 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: Free amana radarange and norge burp filters? (not spinning WATER LEVEL SWITCH)
MESSAGE: You guys were right on the money! Its the water switch!! I gave it a wap with the hammer and it started filling and spinning too!! Now all i need is a pressure switch, i can't believe how spotless this machine is under the hood, that spin solonoid sure is noisy, wap clank at agiation and the end of spin =) Thank you so much guys!!!
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Post# 24554-11/26/2002-23:58 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: Free amana radarange and norge burp filters? (Radar Range)
MESSAGE: I have no idea if it works but there aren't any missing parts. i just saw it and thought someone here would like it. I can call and ask about the shipping but man that thing is a heavy little monster!!
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Post# 24555-11/27/2002-00:07 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: Free amana radarange and norge burp filters? (OMG!)
MESSAGE: heh heh, if you want it come get it, its just going up for sale soon as i get that pressure switch.
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Post# 24556-11/27/2002-07:12 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: MY OLD KENMORES - for Terry & others interested
MESSAGE: Beautiful machines Bob - and I love the floor color too!
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Post# 24557-11/27/2002-07:15 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Hey Check this out! Only 10 years old ;)
MESSAGE: Yup, this was a lower end model, about the same vintage as that 1968 gas dry that was on ebay a week or so ago. My WP washer was very similar to this one.
LINK: http://www.classicappliances.com/MUSEUM/Whirlpool/Gregs-Gansky%201967%20Whirlpool%20Washer/Gansky1-1967-WP-Automatic.jpg
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Post# 24558-11/27/2002-08:49 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: 1956 Wisk commercial
MESSAGE: Could it be a Philco? Or maybe a speed queen? Perhaps a Simpson?
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Post# 24559-11/27/2002-09:11 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: Thanksgiving holiday
MESSAGE: Best wishes for a bountiful holiday. Leslie
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Post# 24560-11/27/2002-09:41 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Free amana radarange and norge burp filters? (not spinning WATER LEVEL SWITCH)
MESSAGE: Glad you have him up and running. My oldest sister had a Norge which was basically the same machine as yours and I remember how god-awful noisy the tranny was in it. When it would change from agitate to fast drain and spin it sounded like the guts were falling out of it. It also had one of the deepest tubs on any washer I've ever seen.
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Post# 24561-11/27/2002-09:42 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Thanksgiving holiday
MESSAGE: Same here. I hope everyone has a safe and festive Thanksgiving holiday.
Les
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Post# 24562-11/27/2002-11:37 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RUBBER TUB DISASTER!
MESSAGE: Jesus! Running 4 washers today, and my little Bendix Dialmatic decided to pee the floor.....bigtime...and it's coming from the wash tub....
Oh Jesus!
So, prepare for a long series of photos, showing the disassembly and reassembly of a Bendix Rubber tub washer.
This is the first time it's peed the floor for me in nearly 20 years I've been using it, so, I guess it's time.
I'll get right on this....
BOB
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Post# 24563-11/27/2002-12:01 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: early 60s GE wash/dry
MESSAGE: Sounds like great machines. Do they have lighted control panels? If so, I'm interested! Mark
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Post# 24564-11/27/2002-12:06 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: RUBBER TUB DISASTER!
MESSAGE: Bob, my condolences! But it made me think about how water temperature, particularly in the winter would effect the pliablity of the rubber. I am guessing that a cold rinse following a hot wash would really stress the tub, does this make sense? And if this is a factor, would using a "dressing" on the outside of the tub help prolong it's life?
Tom
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Post# 24565-11/27/2002-12:31 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RUBBER TUB LEAK
MESSAGE: O.K. I have it all out...only one bolt broke....darn it...that slows me down getting it back together...
The leak occurred between the aluminum tub mounting flange and the tub itself...fortunately, a good cleaning, and silicone application on these lips will be all that's required...of course, I'll have to get the broken bolt out too, darn it...After gym...later today...But here's some photos to get you started.
Fortunately, the rubber tub, itself, is just fine. Whew.
BOB
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/RUBBER/INDEX.htm
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Post# 24566-11/27/2002-13:02 ||| westie2 (arkansas)
SUBJECT: RE: RUBBER TUB LEAK
MESSAGE: Your machines looks just like the washer one of my grandmothers had. Does this one fill from a hose attached to sink. Hers was a semi-automatic as I have fond memories of adding the water for wash and rinse. Worked great for her as she lived in the country and water was hauled in by truck.
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Post# 24567-11/27/2002-16:10 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: RUBBER TUB LEAK (SEMI-AUTOMATIC)
MESSAGE: Yes. Exactly. This is the semi-automatic model, and is filled through the lid, with a hose. I generally use the water discharged from another washer for filling and rinsing.
This model is called the Dialamatic.
O.K. Just home from the gym...gotta get back to work on the little Bendix...busted bolt to remove...and lots of cleaning...I'll send more photos later.
BOB
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Post# 24568-11/27/2002-16:35 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1956 Wisk commercial
MESSAGE: Almost...
It's a Maytag.
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Post# 24569-11/27/2002-19:45 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: ALERT!
MESSAGE: Mom is on the virge of saying yes to a Mytag Wringer! Model E2L! I love the agitator in this one! It is in minneapolis, we are thinking about picking it up on Christmas break! It works and everything! All it needs is a new paint job and yessss! A perfect wringer to display in my room! P.S. I will be staying a couple of days if anything!
Best Washes
-Jamie-
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Post# 24570-11/27/2002-21:08 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: Happy Thanksgiving
MESSAGE: Leaving for sunny (and hopefully warmer) Florida in the morning.
Taking the trailer down. Hoping to come back with some treasures. Wish me luck!
Steve 1-18
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Post# 24571-11/27/2002-21:21 ||| jgp57 (dearborn michigan)
SUBJECT: thanksgiving
MESSAGE: HAPPY THANKSGIVING GUYS, GREAT POD TODAY.JGP57
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Post# 24572-11/27/2002-21:26 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: HAPPY THANKSGIVING ALL
MESSAGE: Too tired to complete the reassembly tonight. It'll be Friday before I get my rubber tubbed buddy back together, but I do have an interesting discovery about why it leaked...
Improperly formed mounting flange.
More details (and photos) on Friday.
Hugs to you all, and PEACE.
BOB
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Post# 24573-11/27/2002-21:52 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: Happy Thanksgiving!!
MESSAGE: I want to wish everyone a very Happy Thanksgiving
I hope you all enjoy the holiday and look foward to a lot of chat and washing.
Jetaction
Peter
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Post# 24574-11/27/2002-22:06 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Thanksgiving holiday (Happy Thanksgiving Applianceville)
MESSAGE: Happy Thanksgiving Applianceville! Hope everyone has a wonderful Turkey day tomorrow!
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Post# 24575-11/27/2002-22:06 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: ALERT!
MESSAGE: Wow, that sounds like fun Jamie and since you'll be staying here in Minneapolis you'll have to come and see my collection.
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Post# 24576-11/27/2002-23:14 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Thanksgiving holiday (Happy Thanksgiving Applianceville)
MESSAGE: Wishing everyone in Applianceville a happy and safe Thanksgiving!! Terry
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Post# 24577-11/27/2002-23:26 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: ALERT!
MESSAGE: YAY!
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Post# 24578-11/28/2002-00:28 ||| dalangdon (Seattle, WA)
SUBJECT: Happy Thanksgiving from the Flair and I
MESSAGE: The Flair and I are busy preparing for the big day, but we wanted to wish you all a Happy Thanksgiving.
LINK: http://www.danlangdon.com
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Post# 24579-11/28/2002-01:06 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: Happy Thanksgiving
MESSAGE: To each and everyone of you wonderful guys here. Y'all are like family to me. Haven't been around much, have had other things on my mind recently. Hark, I hear thrmostats clicking, burner coils heating up, dishwasher running, and washer running to clean the table linens.
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Post# 24580-11/28/2002-06:07 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy Thanksgiving (GOBBLE GOBBLE)
MESSAGE: The thanksgiving turkey will be cooking in a classic appliance. A 1965 Tappan gas wall oven.
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Post# 24581-11/28/2002-06:39 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy Thanksgiving from the Flair and I (gold medallion )
MESSAGE: Hi dalangdon,
I loved the pic, especially the "gold medallion".
You might be surprised to know that they had that promotion here in the state of Victoria, Australia in the late 1970's.
The medallion even looked similar, with the silhouette of three people and the words "living better electrically". There were still some of these signs on poles not far from my parents' house a few years ago, I am visiting them next week so I will see if they are still there. The words "total electric home" on the US medallion in the pic were "all-electric home" here in Aus.
The Authority was at that time state owned, the State Electricity Commission of Victoria. (SECV) The SEC had a scheme where if your house was set up to use large amounts of electricity (they didn't put it so blatantly) you would have a gold medallion installed on your house near the front door, and you got a hefty discount on your electricity bill. You had to have electric hot water, electric home heating (storage heaters), a minimum of five power points in the kitchen, two in the laundry, three in the lounge, one in the bathroom and one in each bedroom. My parents investigated getting it but they had oil heating so didn't qualify.
We lived in a newly developing area and many new homes in the area proudly had their gold medallions on the wall. Of course in a short while the promotion was stopped, the discount was dropped and the poor suckers had huge increases in their bills!! (not that we didn't with oil heating in the late seventies!)
I will look around when I visit, see if any gold medallions are still to be seen.
Chris.
PS.The stove looks like the Simpson Fabulous 400 which was sold here.
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Post# 24582-11/28/2002-06:51 ||| Dick_S. (Palm Springs vicinity)
SUBJECT: RE: Free amana radarange and norge burp filters? (not spinning WATER LEVEL SWITCH)
MESSAGE: That's so funny as my oldest sister also had one of those Norges, (I believe 18 or 20 pounders) back in the early '80s. It was coppertone color. I remember on my visits to her in San Jose, I would do all her washing while she was at work and would stress over whether or not the machine would get thru each load without breaking down because of the noise and constant racket it made! It was the noisiest machine I've ever come across. AND, I also agree that it had the largest tub I think I've ever seen in a washer. She married just before Sears went to their awful direct drive machines (around '84 or '85) and still has one of the last years belt driven Sears W/D sets Sears made. She loves it but still overloads it in my estimation. AND I tell her so everytime we're together and I watch her do a load. She's already had new clutches put in. I also have a '78 Kenmore with a dual action and big tub which I love.
I might be having problems getting my Frigidaire 1-18 home safe and sound. The repairman says he can't break the hub away from the outer tub and is getting real frustrated over it. He's even drilled a hole in it and inserted a screw but still can't dislodge it. I'm starting to get concerned I might not ever see it do a load of 501's. I want that machine so bad I can almost taste it. Anyone have a suggestion I can pass on to him?
I wish each and everyone of you great guys a wonderful and bountiful Thanksgiving and holdiay season.
Dick
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Post# 24583-11/28/2002-07:06 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Thanksgiving holiday (Happy Thanksgiving Applianceville)
MESSAGE: Same here from chilly Connecticut. As we assemble at our respective tables today I know we will all remember how fortunate we are. And although this past year saw the loss of a job, a mother and a very dear friend and neighbor of many years, there is still much to appreciate and we will still gather as we have always done. A bit sadder perhaps for our losses, but still luckier than so many who have nowhere to go or anyone to share with. And to replace those senior members who have left us, a brand new set of twins to fuss over and provide endless laundry for our entertainment.
Now if I could only find a 1-18 in poppy or that Norge Timeline.......
Best Wishes to all of you.
Anthony
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Post# 24584-11/28/2002-08:30 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: Dick S: Stuck 1-18 Frigidaire Hub
MESSAGE: Hi Dick,
The hub can be very HARD to remove. I have the Frigidaire Tech Master that shows and tells how to do it. If you want a copy of it, email me your address, or I could fax it to you if needed. Jimmy
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Post# 24585-11/28/2002-08:57 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Happy Thanksgiving
MESSAGE: to all in Applianceville! I am off to Wisconsin for today and tomorrow. See you all soon!
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Post# 24586-11/28/2002-09:15 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Thanksgiving holiday (Happy Thanksgiving Applianceville)
MESSAGE: Very well put Anthony, I am sure we can all relate in one way or another........Happy Thanksgiving everyone !! -gregm
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Post# 24587-11/28/2002-09:31 ||| JoeEkaitis (Rialto, California, USA)
SUBJECT: Oodles and oodles of classic appliances
MESSAGE: Just got a satellite dish and the programming package that includes Game Show Network.
Vintage "Let's Make A Deal" and other shows ara a virtual video museum of 1960s and later chrome-dripping appliance beauties.
Definitely worth tuning in. :)
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Post# 24588-11/28/2002-10:56 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: For Being Thankful...
MESSAGE: Best wishes to everyone for a fun filled and safe Thanksgiving Day.
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Post# 24589-11/28/2002-11:44 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Happy Thanksgiving Applianceville and Members!
MESSAGE: Happy Thanksgiving to you all! Better start settin the table with a special for my Easy Whirldry and a lot of special places for my 12 agitators! HAPPY THANKSGIVING EVERYONE!
Best Washes! and eats :-)
-Jamie-
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Post# 24590-11/28/2002-11:51 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy Thanksgiving Applianceville and Members! (Happy Thanksgiving Everyone)
MESSAGE: Best wishes for a happy and safe holiday. Full of good food, family and friends. I've got a cranberry-apple pie in the oven. When it's done, I'm off to my folks. Enjoy!
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Post# 24591-11/28/2002-11:53 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: Today's Pic of the Day (Kelvinator top loader with window)
MESSAGE: Check out that windowed lid! I wish more top loaders came with one. Talk about a great way to check out the action.
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Post# 24592-11/28/2002-15:07 ||| cleanteamofny (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Oodles and oodles of classic appliances
MESSAGE: Oh...., I love that station and I wish they never took of the *Gong Show!*
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Post# 24593-11/28/2002-15:47 ||| cleanteamofny (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Oodles and oodles of classic appliances
MESSAGE: I just got in from work, and I wanted to say, *took off!*
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Post# 24594-11/28/2002-15:52 ||| cleanteamofny (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: Happy Thanksgiving!
MESSAGE: I like to wish everyone in Applianceville a Happy Thanksgiving and a safe holiday season!
CleanteamofNY
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Post# 24595-11/28/2002-16:44 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: From my appliances to yours may you all have a Happy Thanksgiving !
MESSAGE: Happy Thanksgiving !
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Post# 24596-11/28/2002-22:06 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's Pic of the Day (Kelvinator top loader with window)
MESSAGE: wouldn't it be cool if we found the little de franks and tell them were still enjoying their little ad and that we see their baby pictures?
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Post# 24597-11/28/2002-23:56 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: THANKS TO ALL FOR THE HOLIDAY WISHES!
MESSAGE: Thanks to all of you for you wishes! I had a great Thanksgiving! I hope all of you had the same!
Brent
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Post# 24598-11/28/2002-23:57 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy Thanksgiving from the Flair and I (Great Photo!)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the picture!
You looked like you were have a great time with your Frigidare range!
Brent
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Post# 24599-11/29/2002-07:59 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: PODfriday29th
MESSAGE: Is this American Motors Corp?? Anyone know anything about this machine?? Looks like it was built pretty well.......anyone have one in their collection??
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Post# 24600-11/29/2002-08:03 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: PODfriday29th
MESSAGE: Yeah, that's confusing. American Motors made the Kelvinator washers but I think this washer ain't a Kelvy. This looks more like a Speed Queen or Franklin washer than a Kelvinator.
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Post# 24601-11/29/2002-09:34 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy Thanksgiving from the Flair and I (Great Photo!)
MESSAGE: She has that "Frigidaire Glow" that comes standard with the Flair!
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Post# 24602-11/29/2002-09:40 ||| Dick_S. (Palm Springs vicinity)
SUBJECT: RE: Dick S: Stuck 1-18 Frigidaire Hub (Stuck 1-18 hub`)
MESSAGE: Jimmy-
A million thanks for coming to the rescue! My email address is stmpstrt55@earthlink.net. As soon as I receive it from you I'll get it to the repairman. I really appreciate this Jimmy.
Dick
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Post# 24603-11/29/2002-09:43 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: PODfriday29th
MESSAGE: This washer was made by Easy - Spiralator agitator and the "Velva-Power" direct drive transmission are the clues. AMC was a store brand, no relation to American Motors.
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Post# 24604-11/29/2002-10:14 ||| westie2 (arkansas)
SUBJECT: RE: PODfriday29th
MESSAGE: I remember the AMC stores they were like the super centers we see today. My folks shopped there. I believe it was a membership store. They sold everything from food to appliances. The store they shopped at was in Oklahoma City.
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Post# 24605-11/29/2002-10:36 ||| jgp57 (dearborn michigan)
SUBJECT: flair& I
MESSAGE: delightful photo i and several freinds laughed so hard. thanx jgp57
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Post# 24606-11/29/2002-13:31 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Kenmore Vismatic!
MESSAGE: It works, Perfect cond. according to the seller
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=926249355&category=20714
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Post# 24607-11/29/2002-15:35 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: Overflow rinse
MESSAGE: I enjoyed the pod and it got me wondering why overflow rinsing fell out of favor. Was it due to the amount of water it used or did it really not work as well as current spray rinses. btw the pod really helped understand how solid tub units worked.
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Post# 24608-11/29/2002-19:37 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: AMC washer
MESSAGE: The AMC on a washer stood for Associated Merchandising Corp, which was a distributor of appliances to local store brands. By that I mean they supplied off branded appliances to independent department stores such as Macys, Kauffmans, Oneils (in Ohio), Hudson's in Michigan, JCPenny's, and the like. It made it possible for big department stores to have a "house brand" along with the other major names in appliances. Gansky is correct that the POD was made by Easy. In Ohio we even had AMC televison sets. I see them around still every now and then............
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Post# 24609-11/29/2002-21:09 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Overflow rinse (Interested in this also.)
MESSAGE: I think that this is a great question.
In my own thoughts I don't think that the overflow rinse used more water, due to the little water that was used to fill only one tub.
Why did they stop the solid tub / overflowing type washing?
What company was the last to use this type of solid tub wash action? Was it Speed Queen?
I don't know if this was ever covered in topic here on the club.
Thanks
Brent
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Post# 24610-11/29/2002-23:52 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Best Washer Help
MESSAGE: Westie2, it is my ujnderstanding that as these direct drive thransmissions get weaker, they begin to not do a neutral drain and start spinning as they drain., My 1986 Lady Kenmore usually does this on the very irst wash cycle or two, then after that, for the rest of the wash loads for the day, it works properly.
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Post# 24611-11/30/2002-00:09 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Overflow rinse (Interested in this also.)
MESSAGE: Brent I believe Speed Queen was the last to use this technology (ending in about 1980) and I belive it has something to do with this type of system not being compatible with large capacity tubs (maybe because of the size the outer tub would need to be vis a vis cabinet size?)
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Post# 24612-11/30/2002-01:15 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Best Washer Help
MESSAGE: The appliance gods may get mad about this but........
the neutral drain cam in the tranny wears out and needs to be replaced. The entire tranny does not need replacing. As for the leak, you will have to look for it. The outer tub may be cracked, the fill valve may be leaking, the centerpost seal may be bad, a hose may be leaking. If it's the outer tub, they do have a 10 year warranty on that part, but you pay labor.
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Post# 24613-11/30/2002-07:52 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: TODAY'S POD
MESSAGE: Some of you might remember seeing today's POD dryer at my house, only in Pink. It's cool to see the pair, in whatever color we're gonna call that....is today's pod turquoise?
See the link below....and what machine is that next to Pinky? Oh My God, It's Old Lady Whirlpool (looking so much like she needed a paint job)
This shot was taken earlier this year, well before the convention...
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/PINKY.JPG
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Post# 24614-11/30/2002-10:59 ||| SHAWN (Waterford Ct)
SUBJECT: RE: TODAY'S POD
MESSAGE: That dryer looks brand new, never knew Whirlpool made glass windows in dryer's.
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Post# 24615-11/30/2002-13:16 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: TODAY'S POD (Whirlpool dryers with windows)
MESSAGE: The home ec room at my high school had a Whirlpool washer and dryer with a window. (I was only in the room once; guys weren't allowed to take home ec until my senior year and my schedule had already been set in stone before I found out.) If the door was open, you could see laundry tumbling if you were in that part of the building while changing classes. (Guess who once got in trouble for coming late in class because he went out of his way (and up and down three flights of stairs) just to see if they were using the dryer?)
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Post# 24616-11/30/2002-14:08 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: TODAY'S POD
MESSAGE: Umm.. Is that a bullet hole in the window? LOL, At least it looks like it.
I didn't get to see your laundry room at the convention
:-( . The magic bus came to take me away before I had the chance. Cool dryer.
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Post# 24617-11/30/2002-14:11 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Overflow rinse
MESSAGE: I think the solid tub machines used less water; the inner basket vs. the entire machine filling with water.
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Post# 24618-11/30/2002-14:14 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: TODAY'S POD
MESSAGE: It's the Lady Kenmore wannabe. You had to lift the lid and see which program you want to choose and press the corresponding number on the control panel. On the Kenmores, the programs were labelled on the buttons making them much easier to read.
Still I'd take one of those RCA Whirlpools in a heartbeat.
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Post# 24619-11/30/2002-14:58 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: BULLET HOLE!
MESSAGE: That does look like someone shot my dryer! But no, thankfully, it isn't. It's more of a belly button in the glass itself, which, when photographed, appears to be a bullet hole!
The dryer IS in sweet shape, though, and it does feature a porcelain top, so, will never need repainting...The cabinet, however, is only painted, but still in nice shape.
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Post# 24620-11/30/2002-16:14 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: TODAY'S POD
MESSAGE: Since Manufacturer's have a tendancy to keep around older designs and update them, why didn't they at least keep the nicer ones around like these Whirlpools?
Obviously, someone in the decision making deparment is missing the "special" gene we all seem to have.
-Alex
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Post# 24621-11/30/2002-16:15 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: BULLET HOLE!
MESSAGE: Bob,
Again, nice piece!
-Alex
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Post# 24622-11/30/2002-18:48 ||| jgp57 (dearborn michigan)
SUBJECT: pod
MESSAGE: what a handsome pair why cant we have this type of glamour in our appliances today. they stand there so stately and proud.thank you for this photo. jgp57
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Post# 24623-12/1/2002-01:08 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: TODAY'S POD (Whirlpool dryers with windows)
MESSAGE: what years did Whirlpool dryers have windows. 1962-64 sound about right?
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Post# 24624-12/1/2002-08:12 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: PODjustlikemine
MESSAGE: I am very fortunate to have come across and acquired this machine and it is in mint condition.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gregm978/vwp?.dir=/More+apps&.src=ph&.dnm=Whirlpool+Imperial+Washer+1959.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gregm978/lst%3f%26.dir=/More%2bapps%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 24625-12/1/2002-09:31 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: owner's manual of the month
MESSAGE: The new owner's manual is posted and it floors me that they suggest no more than 6 or 7 pounds of laundry for the Speed Queen. I didn't realize how small those tubs really were! They held about the same as Jason's portable Kenmore.
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Post# 24626-12/1/2002-10:29 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Kenmore control board questions
MESSAGE: I recently got a 70 series kenmore control board and I have some qustions about it.
1. In the temperature control it has "Automatic" as one of the temps...What does that mean, do?
2. On the timer, If you push it in and turn it will do that clickety click thing, but why does it do the same when it is already pulled out?
Thanks in advance!
Best Washes!
-Jamie-
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Post# 24627-12/1/2002-10:46 ||| jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore control board questions (Kenmore control board)
MESSAGE: Hi Jamie,
The "Automatic" setting for the water temp chooses the wash and rinse temps for you, depending on where you set the timer. Usually, there is "White" "Colors" "Knit" and so on printed next to the minutes of wash time. These words correspond to the water temps, so if you set the water temp knob on "automatic" and the timer to "White" you will get hot water. "Colors" would give you warm water, and so on. The timer knob clicks both pulled in and pushed out because that was before they made them so they couldn't be advanced by accident when in gear, usually by bumping them or something like that. Have fun! Don
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Post# 24628-12/1/2002-10:53 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore control board questions
MESSAGE: Jamie,
when you place the water temperature on automatic, it will fill the machine to the type of load you've selected on the wash cycle.
Note:
When using the normal cycle at the 14 minuet mark, you will see Whites next to it and it will fill with hot water with a cold rinse.
At the 10 minuet mark it should have Colors and that will fill with warm water with a cold rinse.
These are factory recommended wash temperature and time to guide consumers to wash without fading and shrinking of most fabrics. But you can over ride this feature by selecting the water temperature of your choice!
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Post# 24629-12/1/2002-12:35 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT: Vintage Electric Stove controls
MESSAGE: I have a mid-60's Frigidaire electric slide in range. I don't use it too much, but last night I discovered that the low settings for the two front burners don't work right. Anything under "medium low" is off - cold. The burners are flat ribbon.
I believe all the connections underneath are good, but I will recheck them. Could it also be a problem with the control circuitry under the knobs? Is there something special to look for? Do the low settings typically "wear out" on older units?
The elements seem to be fine, otherwise, and heat fully on high settings, so I don't think it's a defective element.
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Post# 24630-12/1/2002-15:07 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Electric Stove controls (Similar problem...)
MESSAGE: I've had a similar problem with a 1969 Frigidaire Custom Imperial 40" range. The cooktop is fine; it is the oven that fails to heat properly. I've already replaced the element; it worked the first time I tried the oven after replacing it. Now I can't seem to get the stove above 275F or so. The smaller, non-self-cleaning oven works fine. Could it be the thermostat? I love the stove; I'm glad that my partner didn't let the Home Depot folks talk him into replacing it when he remodeled the kitchen. Any ideas? It would be nice to have both ovens operational- it is a well built, heavy unit. Sorry if this off the washer topic- don't know of any other helpful, friendly place for advice. The typical attitude seems to be to get rid of the old and buy new.
Thanks!
Duane
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Post# 24631-12/1/2002-16:07 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: PODjustlikemine
MESSAGE: I have seen this machine firsthand at Greg's when I was picking up my wringer and dropping a few things off.
She is a beauty!!! I cannot believe that the gold on the control panel is still in mint condition as well as the rest. It is a keeper for sure.
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Post# 24632-12/1/2002-16:10 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Electric Stove controls
MESSAGE: I have a 60' Double oven Flair that I have not been able to hook up yet but is in wonderfull shape. Let me know if I should be looking for specific problem areas.
Thanks
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Post# 24633-12/1/2002-16:28 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: range repair advice
MESSAGE: I just love the old Frigidaire Flair range, or any classic range really, and have worked on many in my time as a service man. If your surface element is a two wire only element and works on high but does not work below medium, you have a bad infinate switch, which is usually not a big problem to replace. With the flair, it is more challenging than some, due to the complexity of the panel assembly.
If your oven won't heat and you're sure BOTH heating elements are good (bake and broil must both be good for some ranges to work properly), you need a thermostat.
I believe this to be correct advice, but I'd sure like to hear that someone closer to electric ranges than I am today, also thinks it's right, too. Filterflo, does that sound right to you?
Many Frigidaire ranges used Speed Heat, and Heat Minder burners on the front, which are two different animals, altogether..
I don't think the heat minder control is any longer available, and the speed heat switch is now converted to an ordinary 120 volt infinite switch, I do believe, and so, no longer delivers the original surge of 240 to put the speed into the speed heat burner, but so it goes. At least it can be made to deliver heat, at all settings.
BEST OF LUCK
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Post# 24634-12/1/2002-16:53 ||| BsmntFullOSuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: BULLET HOLE!
MESSAGE: Kitchenaid dishwasher gets lots of bullet holes in this link. A Whirlpool dryer also comes into the line of fire.
LINK: http://www.singsingsing.com/has4.html
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Post# 24635-12/1/2002-18:58 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: :-(
MESSAGE: No wringer. :-(
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Post# 24636-12/1/2002-19:06 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: :-( (: - ()
MESSAGE: Mr. Garrison says wringers are bad mmmmkay. Stick with machines that spin (or squeeze) the clothes dry...you won't regret it.....lifting wet clothes up and putting them through the wringer is ENTIRELY too much like WORK. Wringers are BAD, Mkay?
They CAN be fun to look at, but I don't think anyone would actually say they're FUN to use...
Cheer Up,
Santa Clause is comin' to town.....
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Post# 24637-12/1/2002-19:18 ||| zzzzz (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: BULLET HOLE! (The dishwasher...)
MESSAGE: The home I grew up in had the same model of KitchenAid dishwasher (a KDS-14P, if I recall correctly) that got Swiss-cheesed by that group. Sad to see such a workhorse in its day suffer such a murderous fate...
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Post# 24638-12/1/2002-19:29 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Electric Stove controls
MESSAGE: Sometimes when an element goes out, only half the element will heat, the other half is burned out. That's not the case with this burner, as it gets to full heat ok.
I suppose it's something in the control, and that I'll have to disassemble the front control panel in order to diagnose it.
When I first moved in, this element was burnt out, but lo and behold there was a complete new old stock replacement sitting in a box in the garage. I hardly ever use the stove, and never noticed the simmer problem until last night, when I put a pot of soup stock I was making on it overnight to simmer so it wouldn't stink up the house. In the morning, the pot was cold...
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Post# 24639-12/1/2002-19:29 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: :-( (: - ()
MESSAGE: Thanks I feel better now. I think that it was Mr.Macky that says Mkay. :-)
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Post# 24640-12/1/2002-19:30 ||| Supersport_us (MidSouth)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire Follies
MESSAGE: I first visited this website last evening and was surprised to find that a clip from the Frigidaire Follies is used in the opening of the NBC program "American Dream".
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Post# 24641-12/1/2002-19:37 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: :-( (: - ()
MESSAGE: I would get an automatic except my mom thinks that they are like twice the size of an wringer, If only I could find and automatic that was small, like the ones GE used to make! That would be fun!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/brooklynrobert/vwp?.dir=/My+Collection!&.src=ph&.dnm=STRUCT~1.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/brooklynrobert/lst%3f%26.dir=/My%2bCollection!%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 24642-12/1/2002-21:29 ||| BsmntFullOSuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: Sears Kenmore / Galaxy low end washer - how old a design?
MESSAGE: The back panel molding looks like something out of the '70s. How long ago were these designed? Is it a Whirlpool?
Have one of these, a low-end Kenmore from 1994, with wash temp and perm press selector. The current low end Sears washer looks the same, but only has the Galaxy brand name, and the only control is a timer.
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Post# 24643-12/1/2002-22:03 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: :-( (: - ()
MESSAGE: You're right! One of those little pulsator disc japanese GE portables would be swell for you. Those spun great too. I serviced many a one of those in the day...mainly removing lint out of the electric water pump, which was kinda whimpy, but I mainly liked the little washer. I wonder where they all went? Wouldn't mind having one of those myself, if for nothing other than the good extraction capabilities...and indeed it does take up only a tiny foot print in the room...
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Post# 24644-12/1/2002-22:19 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: TODAY'S POD (Whirlpool dryers with windows)
MESSAGE: I have a very tattered copy of the Sept. 1966 edition of Consumer Reports. It's in very bad shape. It's not much long for this world, unfortunately! :-( They reported on both washers and dryers. A footnote, to the table that accompanied the ratings for the dryers, notes that the check-rated RCA Whirlpool Models LPE 992 (electric version) and LPI 992-1 (gas version) has a window in their doors.
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Post# 24645-12/1/2002-22:58 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: TODAY'S POD (Consumer Reports)
MESSAGE: DUDE!
You might need to get that book copied...be a shame to lose a jewel like that. My 1976 and 1971 Buy Guides got lost when the family moved to a new house, but my 1972 is holding up fairly well, yellowed pages and all. I like how the lab guys went into detail to describe mechanical action of the washers they tested. The modern-day Consumers Union does a lot better job with automobile testing and reporting than they did back in the day, though - glad to see that.
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Post# 24646-12/1/2002-23:14 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: Sears Kenmore / Galaxy low end washer - how old a design?
MESSAGE: If Im picturing the model youre talking about, it's a design that Ive seen since the mid to late 70s, when it had a more glorious beginning with separate wash/rinse temp controls and 3 water levels instead of two. Here's a testimony to the durability of Whirlmores: when I was in junior high, neighbor friends of mine had a matching Avocado set of this same model. A tornado flattened their house, but when the washer was hooked up at the apartment they relocated to, it ran like it had the day before the twister. The cabinet on the matching dryer, alas, was too badly bashed up to be of use.
In addition to being called Kenmore and Galaxy, it has also at times been badged with the same Capri label found on Sears' low budget appliances.
Did you notice that since about 1986, there has never been another extra capacity version of that design?
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Post# 24647-12/1/2002-23:18 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore control board questions
MESSAGE: Jamie, if this control board belonged to a direct drive kenmore model 70, then the automatic did something a bit different. Hot water was the wash temp on the heavy soil setting. Then at normal soil setting it switched to warm rinse, as was that on the light soil setting (corresponding wash times were 14, 10, and 6 minutes respectively. This was for the Normal/Cotton Sturdy cycle. For Permanent Press, heavy had hot water. Normal and light soil were warm washes. Respective wash times were 10, 8, & 6 minutes. On the knits/delicates, wash temps was warm. Respective wash times were 8 and 6 minutes. All automatic rinses were cold for all cycles. On the presoak cycle, the wash temp was warm as waws prewash cycle. For older belt drive kenmores like Don wsa talking about, 14 minutes had whites by it and a hot wash. Colors was 10 minutes and warm wash. (On normal cycle/cotton sturdy). On permanent press, whites was 10 minutes at hot water. Colors was 6 minutes at warm. Knits &* delicates were the same, warm washes with 8 or 6 minutes. All auto cycle rinse temps were cold like stated before. Hope this helps. Bob. And beset wishes to you & your mom.
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Post# 24648-12/1/2002-23:30 ||| dalangdon (Seattle, WA)
SUBJECT: RE: range repair advice (Flair repair)
MESSAGE: I can speak from sorry experience that once a heatminder unit goes, it's indeed gone, although a fix can sometimes be as easy as popping the little center piece off and seeing if there is gunk on the sensor. Never underestimate the power of gunk ;-)
Bob, I wish there were repair people out here in the northwest with your attitude. Most of the time I end up getting either laughed at or lectured about how I should just buy new instead of trying to fix stuff. A person with knowledge of, and interest in, vintage appliances could do well in Seattle where our municipal utility (Seattle City Light) marketed electric appliances aggresively from the 30's until the 70's. They had a big glamourous showroom downtown and everything. They also used to have an appliance repair service that was quite reasonable and very accomodating, but they got rid of that a few years back. Nowadays, it's anything goes.
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Post# 24649-12/1/2002-23:53 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: BULLET HOLE!
MESSAGE: Whats with the appliance violence. I think someone or some group has some unresolved issues to deal with.
That was just sick. Shooting a harvest gold Whirlpool dryer. get help.
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Post# 24650-12/2/2002-00:25 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: POD Westinghouse Laundromat Twins
MESSAGE: Ah, such sweet memories. That's the same model as the 1964 Westinghouse twins my grandfather had. I can smell the powdered All and the Niagra spray starch now. His pair was white. He bought compact, stackable units because what was supposed to be a full sized laundry closet on the blueprint when the house was built turned out to be not wide enough for a full sized washer and dryer to sit side by side.
Extremely quiet machine for an American washer, even if it was a front loader. Well, as long as it was washing or rinsing. Drain and spin were both very loud. Both the washer and the dryer made a curious popping or clicking sound when the motor in either was shut off (end of cycle, opening a door, or whatever). It sounded like a toy windup clock or bubble gum being popped.
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Post# 24651-12/2/2002-01:12 ||| pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: :-( (: - ( 1959or 60 RCA Whirlpool Imperial washer or dryer)
MESSAGE: When I was little, I vaugely remember this RCA Whirlpool washer with a light up dashboard and those white pointy dials for hot, warm,medium, cold. My mom loved the dryer because it had alot of temerature control...I think it was Hot,Med, Warm,Cool. Anyways, this was a kick ass washer and dryer in our family,but was replaced later by Maytags,Whirlpools were very tricky appliances in those days. Can you find any picures of an RCA Whirlpool Washer/Dryer crica 1958-61?
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Post# 24652-12/2/2002-02:03 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: BULLET HOLE!
MESSAGE: This site is about restoring appliances, not about destroying them. You have posted this link here before and I think that one time was just enough
Louis
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Post# 24653-12/2/2002-10:01 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: BULLET HOLE! (issues)
MESSAGE: Oh there are some issues here alright, LOL, Some postings from some members I don't even read.
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Post# 24654-12/2/2002-11:10 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore control board questions (clickity clack)
MESSAGE: Sounds you've got a console to a belt driver Jamie, the reason it goes clickity clack when its pulled out is just the nature of the beast, the newer models make it so the dial turns freely (not changing the cycles) when pulled out, the old designs don't so your actually able to advance the timer when the machine is on. Thats just how the old gal works. Does your console look like this one?
Who knows maybe you'll run across the bottom part of the machine and you'll just be able to stick the console on it =)
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/brooklynrobert/vwp?.dir=/My+Collection!&.dnm=mom+kenmore1.jpg&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/brooklynrobert/vwp%3f.dir=/My%2bCollection!%26.dnm=THROWI~1.jpg%26.src=ph
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Post# 24655-12/2/2002-12:11 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT: RE: range repair advice
MESSAGE: Bob,
Thanks for the advice. This 1969 40" white Frigidaire C. I. does indeed have Speed heat and Heat Minder- both work. I'll have to try the broiler in the larger self-cleaning oven and see if that works. We've just been using the smaller oven on that stove. Even though I love to bake, I don't bake huge quantities unless going to or hosting a dinner party. Even then, the smaller oven on the stove has been fine. If REALLY in a pinch, I could use the 1953 light green Frigidaire 30" in the basement laundry room. Still, it'd would be nice to make that stove in the kitchen FULLY functional. Does anyone know when the Flair was discontinued? Looking at the 1969 manual, it looks like this stove was the TOL for that year.
I've followed your links when posted to some rather cool things. I share your interest in old cars, particularly, late 50's, early 60's Imperials and Lincolns. Gotta brave the snow and hit the gym. E-mail me at Wireman2222@hotmail.com
Thanks!
Duane
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Post# 24656-12/2/2002-15:40 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT:
MESSAGE:
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Post# 24657-12/2/2002-18:50 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT: RE:
MESSAGE: I concur absolutely.
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Post# 24658-12/2/2002-21:05 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE:
MESSAGE: What is it?
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Post# 24659-12/2/2002-22:08 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: (speechless)
MESSAGE: Maybe he's just seen a Kenmore 800 and now he's lost for words.
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Post# 24660-12/2/2002-23:22 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE:
MESSAGE: And I am unanimous in that.
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Post# 24661-12/2/2002-23:30 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: (did u move jason?)
MESSAGE: I thought u were in florida??
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Post# 24662-12/2/2002-23:36 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: (Ken 800)
MESSAGE: Well Jason......
John and Cliff came down to vist and brought me lots of goodies. And while they were here I brought John to my secret 9 acre appliance farm. Lots of vintage stoves, gas and electric. Nothing too exciting in the laundry line, EXCEPT a Kenmore 800 set in white and..2 sets of black electronic DD Kenmores which are coming home tomorrow. Supposedly all 4 work. I have yet to find the Black 29in LE dryer for my Black 86 LE Washer though. AAAAKKKKKKK I need a nerve pill.
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Post# 24663-12/2/2002-23:43 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Overflow rinse
MESSAGE: Now what I'va trying to say befo all my words got lost in up in there somewhere iz this............
From the 1965 Tech Talk manual which has been highly disputed by several.....
WCI-65 holds 12 pounds laundry and uses 41.25 gals water, normal cycle, no options.
And from the '79 Tech Talk....
1-18 holds 18# of laundry and uses 49.5 gallons of water.
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PRE-1980 Kenmore SUPER capacity...53 Gallons water
Post 1980 18# tub 43 gallons water.
Y'all do the math, I don't have my glasses on.
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Post# 24664-12/2/2002-23:44 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: (did u move jason?)
MESSAGE: I was there, but my broom carried me to Georgia.
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Post# 24665-12/3/2002-00:33 ||| eheschong (glendale, CA)
SUBJECT: re:ModernMaid/McGraw Edison built in toaster? (..and Nutone Food Center too)
MESSAGE: I bought a house with a Nutone model #221 built in Food Center but none of the appliances or attachments. Do you still have these avaiable? From the look of the other appliances, I seem to have a 50's era kitchen. Thanks for any help. eheschong@earthlink.net
LINK: http://eheschong@earthlink.net
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Post# 24666-12/3/2002-01:04 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: Overflow rinse (thanks jason)
MESSAGE: Hmmph, that comment bout the pre 80 post 80 kenmore, now that would that explain why the tub in my 75 whirlpool didn't fit into my 85 whirlpool. I had to take all the bits off the 75 (tub, basket, tranny, spin tube, and all the suspension) to get it to fit.
Whats slightly embarassing is at first i tried using the suspension from the 85 and all the other parts from the 75, but the drain hole in the tub didn't line up with the drain hole in the suspension, then i swapped out that big bottom thing and left the 3 little arms from the 85, wrong again! Couldn't get the console back on, put on the 3 arms from the 75 and its happy as a clam. THe arms on the 75 were longer, go figure! Kind of reminds me of that one song my grandpa called one piece at a time where a guy steals parts from cadillac over the years and gets one funky car =)
I left the same agitator, (super surg with wings (sounds like a tampon) ) and i'll be darned if that thing doesn't fill right up to the agitator cap on extra large =) Talk about your time consuming lessons! Crikey!
~Steven
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Post# 24667-12/3/2002-01:21 ||| eheschong (glendale, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Modern Maid/McGraw Edison built-in toaster? (--and Nutone Food Center too)
MESSAGE: I am looking for all the accessories for my Nutone Food Center.Do you have any available to sell? Thanks, Liz eheschong@earthlink.net
LINK: http://eheschong@earthlink.net
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Post# 24668-12/3/2002-05:52 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Overflow rinse (Lbs/Gal)
MESSAGE: I did the math. Here's what I came up with.
Machine.........LBS......gals......lbs/gal
WCI-65..........12......41.25.....0.290909091
"1-18"..........18......49.50.....0.363636364
Pre 1980 KM.....12......53.00.....0.226415094
Post 1980 KM....18......43.00.....0.418604651*
Post 1980 KM....16......43.00.....0.372093023
That is going on several assumptions:
1. The Pre 1980 KM capacity was 12 lb.
2. The Post 1890 KM capacity was 18 lb.
(that's stretching it!)
3. The water consumption on the pref. tubs would
not include water absorbed by the load of
laundry.
Looks like the thirstest machine was the Pre 1980 KM.
The most efficient was the Post 1980 KM.
*I doubt a post 1980 KM could handle an 18 lb load
where the 1-18 could. By conservately dropping the
load size on the post 1980 KM to 16 lb, the Gal/Lb
goes from 0.418604651 to 0.372093023
It's like comparing one cell phone company's rates
to another. Virtually impossible; apples & oranges.
Steve 1-18
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Post# 24669-12/3/2002-07:17 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: (OMG!!!!!!!!!!)
MESSAGE: DUDE! When you get them, can you send pics?
You're getting my dream machine!
PUH-LEEZE send pics when you do. LOL
Now I need a nerve pill.
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Post# 24670-12/3/2002-07:18 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: (Nimbus 2001)
MESSAGE: Now now, we can't have muggles seeing you flying on that thing. The Mistry of Magic would not be happy.
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Post# 24671-12/3/2002-07:28 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Overflow rinse (Lbs/Gal)
MESSAGE: Apples to oranges is right - impossible to compare washers based on lbs per gallon of water as different washers would handle the exact same load differently. We've talked before about using a sample load in different machines to test performance. An 18 lb. would choke most washers, probably even those machines rated for that much. While many manufacturers touted the number of pounds their washers could handle, others disputed this method and even in their owner's manuals recommended loading clothes loosely, not packed, until the tub was full for best performance. Even in the older, smaller vintage machines, this rule of thumb works best. Scott and I weighed a load going into my WO-65 at exactly nine pounds and the machine handled it perfectly, but nine pounds of jeans would have seriously overloaded it.
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Post# 24672-12/3/2002-09:07 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: Modern Maid/McGraw Edison built-in toaster? (--and Nutone Food Center too)
MESSAGE: I know someone who has one they don't use. My parents used to sell these. I can ask if they can still get parts. what do you need?
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Post# 24673-12/3/2002-09:25 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Overflow rinse (Lbs/Gal)
MESSAGE: Getting clothes wet is alot different than getting them clean. Apples to lambchops, more like...
-ph
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Post# 24674-12/3/2002-09:27 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Overflow rinse (Lbs/Gal)
MESSAGE: I'm not sure the weight is a good capacity measure. I expiremented with weight vs volumes of clothes. Your point of washing jeans is well put. I weighed a "regular" load of clothes when I got my Equator 3600. The load weighed 8.5# but was clearly large in volume. I wonder if the new sizing of wash capacity in volume is a better idea. 3.0ft^ vs 18# etc.?
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Post# 24675-12/3/2002-10:10 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Overflow rinse (Lbs/Gal)
MESSAGE: Post 80 Kenmore was the SUPER capacity tub, not the 12lb tub.
In 80 they made the SUPER capacity tub smaller, brought it down to 18 pounds.
They did have the 12 pound tub and that machine used 38 gallons of water.
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Post# 24676-12/3/2002-10:22 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: (OMG!!!!!!!!!!)
MESSAGE: Jason, I am not getting the 800 set. My days of restoring belt drives are over. (ok maybe 2 more) I have the ones I want and if anyone wants a belt drive restored I will gladly do it, for the right price.
But I will send you picts of the electronic ones and place them on the web page.
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Post# 24677-12/3/2002-10:29 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Overflow rinse
MESSAGE: And here we go.........
No one willing to get off their ass to do anything to find out what is right, other than guess, but everyone can jump, shout, scream and hollar when they think something is wrong.
Yes, the type of load you are washing is a great factor in the outcome of how much water is used and how clean the load gets. But being that no one has come up with anything other than hot air, these are the numbers from the books. Right or wrong, here they are.
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Post# 24678-12/3/2002-11:03 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: (OMG!!!!!!!!!!)
MESSAGE: Jason, if you want the 800 set I will take a closer look at them and if they are in reasonable shape I'll get them for you, but you will have to pick them up.....soon
I'm running out of room......
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Post# 24679-12/3/2002-11:04 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: (OMG!!!!!!!!!!)
MESSAGE: I wonder which 2...
-ph
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Post# 24680-12/3/2002-11:10 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Overflow rinse (there's a place for us...)
MESSAGE: Fact is, a LARGE load in my 72 LK is a MEDIUM in a 1-18. And 2 pairs of jeans will choke almost any machine except frontloaders.
It's about the MACHINES, not about the LOADS. Capacity fights, load makeup, and fabric-characteristics-when-wet discussions can go to the sandbox.
-ph
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Post# 24681-12/3/2002-11:14 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Overflow rinse (Lbs/Gal)
MESSAGE: I agree; I think it is more volume than weight. But what is the computed volume of a washtub up to the water level and with an agitator? Now there's some tough math! Pass me my glasses...
-ph
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Post# 24682-12/3/2002-12:19 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Overflow rinse (there's a place for us...)
MESSAGE: The sandbox???? But this is about vintage machines..........
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Post# 24683-12/3/2002-12:20 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: (OMG!!!!!!!!!!)
MESSAGE: One is gold and one is yellow.......
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Post# 24684-12/3/2002-13:33 ||| Frigilux (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: The Trouble With Speed Queens
MESSAGE: Hi gang--- Is anyone else having problems downloading the Manual Of The Month? It seems to download and pages 1 and 2 come up, but then I get an 'Internal Error' message and the other 13 pages are blank.
I have no problems downloading the other two manuals. I use an iMac. Can anyone among our group of brainiacs suggest anything?
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Post# 24685-12/3/2002-13:50 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Overflow rinse (there's a place for us...)
MESSAGE: TWO pairs of jeans will choke? Hmmm. Do you maybe mean 20 pairs??
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Post# 24686-12/3/2002-13:55 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Overflow rinse (there's a place for us...)
MESSAGE: Well Glenn, (LOL) I guess that is subjective, depending on what machine one might be talking about. ;-)
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Post# 24687-12/3/2002-13:56 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The Trouble With Speed Queens
MESSAGE: I'm glad you mentioned since I hadn't realized a new manual had been posted, and a nifty one it is! I got right into it with no wait (though I have a cable modem which might give me somewhat of an edge). That notwithstanding, maybe you just caught it at a bad time, and if you try again it will work. Keep us posted!
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Post# 24688-12/3/2002-14:52 ||| Frigilux (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: RE: The Trouble With Speed Queens
MESSAGE: Scott--tried downloading the SQ manual again; same thing happened. I don't understand why the other two download without a problem. I have a T1 line, so that shouldn't be the trouble. Think I'll go have a good, long sulk!
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Post# 24689-12/3/2002-15:36 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: GOOD LUCK AT THE MACHINE SHOP
MESSAGE: Just now I returned from the machine shop with my Bendix gear box..between the cab ride both ways and the actual job itself, it cost 55 bucks, but now all the threads on my old gear box are like new and reassembly will be a breeze, later tonight when I return from working out - to which I'm running late now...
I have the most excellent photo of the old guy that re-tapped and recovered the busted bolt for me....he must have been at least 75 years old himself....I'll post that later...
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Post# 24690-12/3/2002-18:13 ||| shawn (Waterford Ct)
SUBJECT: P.O.D
MESSAGE: I think this was the best washer ever!!!
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Post# 24691-12/3/2002-19:01 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: HORROR OF THE HOLE
MESSAGE: Doesn't matter how nicely your clamping ring bolts down if your tub has a hole in it....which mine now does, at a seam, sadly...
Anyone have experience with mending rubber seams.....i'm leaning towards a super glue job with a silicone finish, unless anyone has a better idea.
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Post# 24692-12/3/2002-19:22 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: HOLE IN ONE..
MESSAGE: Woe is me.
Whoever is sticking pins in the voo doo dolls of my machines, kindly stop it now, please.
I'm thinking, super glue in the crack, and a bicycle tire patch to hold it shut, which I just happen to have here...
we'll see how that goes....later..
ho ho hole.
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/HOLE/INDEX.htm
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Post# 24693-12/3/2002-19:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: HORROR OF THE HOLE
MESSAGE: OH NO!!!! Is the hole/split on a seam that will be moving during extraction or near the bottom edge you posted a picture of? Would a bicycle tube repair patch work?
Not to worry, I'm sure a solution will present itself.
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Post# 24694-12/3/2002-19:48 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: HORROR OF THE HOLE
MESSAGE: Bob, what about a real vulcanizing repair? Usually large truck stops have the equipment to fix the inner tubes of truck tires. Might take some searching but I would think it would really hold.
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Post# 24695-12/3/2002-20:07 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: VULCANIZING
MESSAGE: I have a propatch bicycle accessory that came with my Trek bicycle which features vulcanizing solution and patches...
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Post# 24696-12/3/2002-20:37 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: HOLE IN ONE.. (solution)
MESSAGE: how about melting it back together.
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Post# 24697-12/3/2002-21:05 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: VULCANIZED..
MESSAGE: O.K. Vulcanized. Three dot patches in a row along the seam on the outside of the tub (where water pressure will press the tub again the patch against the metal tub holder) and one patch on the inside of the tub, directly over top of the quarter inch crack in the seam....
Now, Judging Amy (in high definition) and then, a water test.
BOB
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Post# 24698-12/3/2002-22:13 ||| jgp57 (dearborn michigan)
SUBJECT: me
MESSAGE: i think all of you guys should buy be a gift.i just know i would be pleased with each and every one.thank you ever so much love to you all mr greed.
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Post# 24699-12/3/2002-22:37 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Sing along with Maytag
MESSAGE: Anyone out there have a turntable? :)
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=926971837
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Post# 24700-12/3/2002-22:59 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: P.O.D
MESSAGE: they are quite stately aren't they, wonder what all those buttons do?!
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Post# 24701-12/3/2002-23:02 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: Sing along with Maytag (SING ALONG WITH MAYTAG)
MESSAGE: I'll be glad to get the bidding started....
Bendix is working brillliantly, again. thanks to the vulcanization suggestion earlier, which saved the night for me...thanks so much for that idea...so fortunate for me I happened to have the kit on hand...
photos forth coming.
BOB
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Post# 24702-12/3/2002-23:23 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: P.O.D
MESSAGE: On the washer, from left to right --
First bank = wash/rinse temperatures
Hot/Warm
Hot/Cold
Warm/Warm
Warm/Cold
Cold/Cold
Second bank = agitate and spin speeds (set independent of the timer/cycle)
High agitation
Medium agitation
Low agitation
High spin
Low spin
Self-clean filter light
Infinite water level, probably with "hand washable" position at extreme left.
On the dryer --
Temperatures (also incorporates push-to-start)
High
Medium
Low
Extra-low?
Air
Small knob is for drying speed.
I'm sure someone will post corrections if necessary.
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Post# 24703-12/3/2002-23:34 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: (Ken 800)
MESSAGE: Jason, HOORAYYY!!! CAN'T WAIT TO SEE PICS.
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Post# 24704-12/3/2002-23:51 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Overflow rinse (there's a place for us...)
MESSAGE: Ahem, well, 4 pairs of jeans will fit nicely in the Shredmore, I wouldn't add any additional pairs. And I sheepishly admit the jeans are sized 42 x 30. Any more, and I doubt I would get descent roll over.
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Post# 24705-12/3/2002-23:54 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: P.O.D
MESSAGE: Shawn, I agree, that was THE whirlpool washer model set to own back then. Only feature I desired was an optional 2nd rinse.
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Post# 24706-12/4/2002-00:08 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: POD 1955 Frigidaire Pulsamatic
MESSAGE: Ahh yes, memories of the 2001 Minneapolis convention. the most astounding washer to me there. My favorite shaped pulsator and what live water action. Thanks to Jetcone & Unimatic for providing those wonderful memories that will last a lifetime.
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Post# 24707-12/4/2002-00:10 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: P.O.D
MESSAGE: I think it was less typical to have this type of layout at that time on an upper end machine, rather than programs that set everything. The "everything separate" layout seems to be common on later machines of many brands as well; I wonder if market research showed that people prefer this, or if it is less expensive to manufacture (or both).
I'm surprised this particular unit did not have a 2nd rinse for all its feature-richness. That must have gained popularity just a bit later.
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Post# 24708-12/4/2002-00:13 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: (Ken 800 (Bob was yours an 800 too?))
MESSAGE: Bob, was your family's Sears from around that era, also an 800 model? I forget was it 1970 or 71. I know Jason was 1970.
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Post# 24709-12/4/2002-00:17 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: BENDIX IS BRILLIANT, ONCE AGAIN
MESSAGE: Let's hear it for the Vulcans.
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/VULCANIZED/INDEX.htm
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Post# 24710-12/4/2002-00:36 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Sing along with Maytag (SING ALONG WITH MAYTAG)
MESSAGE: That was a silly question on my part, how could I have forgotten all your wonderful musical equipment! I am glad you have your Bendix toploader's tub in good shape again.
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Post# 24711-12/4/2002-00:41 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: (Ken 800 (Bob was yours an 800 too?))
MESSAGE: Yes, it was bought February 1970 or February 1971.
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Post# 24712-12/4/2002-00:47 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: Sing along with Maytag (SWISS TURNTABLE)
MESSAGE: Thank you, Scott. I suppose I should thank Spock, too, right, 'cause he was a vulcan...The Bendix thanks you too.
My sweet old Thorens turntable says He's looking forward to playing the Maytag Lp, so we'll see...
Here's a link to a real player song I transferred from an Lp recently with the Thorens.... from an original 1958 RCA New Orthophonic High Fidelity Lp of the Guckenheimer Sour Krauts -- Music for Non-thinkers..
if it will not play for you, update your free real player at real.com . You'll be glad you did.
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/JAGER-MARSCH.rm
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Post# 24713-12/4/2002-07:18 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: (grind-click-clunk... BANG!!!!)
MESSAGE: Bob, remember what happens when the timer reaches 4 minutes on a Kenmore 800? BAAAANNNGG!!!! The solenoid for the bleach dispensor activates, managing to make my 8 year old self jump out of my skin. Even when I knew it was coming, it was a surprise...
Of course, I remember the off-balance switch. It got disabled during the life of the 800.
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Post# 24714-12/4/2002-08:08 ||| radiobill1966 (Indianapolis, IN)
SUBJECT: RE: BENDIX IS BRILLIANT, ONCE AGAIN (Rubber tub?)
MESSAGE: Just curious--what was Bendix's reasoning for a rubber tub, anyway?
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Post# 24715-12/4/2002-08:39 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: WHY A RUBBER TUB, AND SUCTION PUMP
MESSAGE: Good question. Here's my thinking on why they did it...spinning washers at that time needed to be bolted down to the floor due to the lack of internal suspension...the Bendix rubber tub machine does not 'spin' and therefore does not need to be bolted down to the floor....a radical approach, I agree, but that's the only reason I can figure for it. Perhaps someone knows another reason?
All I know is, for 19 years now I've never given mine the first button or zipper - only socks, blankets, sheets, towels and like that are allowed to go in mine...I'm not taking any chances on a foreign object popping my tub...
so my tub split on a seam of natures doing...Fortunately, it was repairable.
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Post# 24716-12/4/2002-10:15 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: BENDIX IS BRILLIANT, ONCE AGAIN
MESSAGE: Awesome pics Bob!
Glad to see the Bendix is back in action!!!!!!!
-Alex
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Post# 24717-12/4/2002-10:16 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: WHY A RUBBER TUB, AND SUCTION PUMP
MESSAGE: Bob, glad to hear patch worked. I am facinated by this machine! Can you relate the dampness of compressed clothes vs the same done in a like vintage washer that spun? Judging by the pix I guessing that the lid had to be down to create seal? Any chance you could record the sounds it makes and post the file? Did it only keep vacuum while pump was running? I guess my question is, if the power failed at the right time would it hold your clothes hostage?
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Post# 24718-12/4/2002-10:47 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: WHY A RUBBER TUB, AND SUCTION PUMP (HOW DRY I AM)
MESSAGE: I'd have to say the extraction properties are similar to that of the Bendix front loading automatic home laundry.....not great by modern standards...about equal to what you might be able to do with a wringer...not dripping wet, but still rather heavy with moisture...
I'm thinking a spin-x or some other extractor is in my not too distant future...although when my Whirlpool duet gets here this coming spring, it'll spin fast enough...
As for a power failure ever causing a 'lockout', - no chance - the bendix control is quite mechanical, and by manually advancing the knob, the operator can open the vacuum break device...which does result in a big swishy sucking sound, indeed...I'll try to make some sound oriented videos soon...
Thanks for your interest....
BOB
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Post# 24719-12/4/2002-14:25 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: WHY A RUBBER TUB, AND SUCTION PUMP
MESSAGE: We discussed this topic too at the 2001 convention standing around Robert's Bendix rubber tub machine. Main opinion was that it was indeed for people weren't able to accommodate a spinning washer, especially people living in small apartments with wooden floors.
Is this machine 19 years in your posession? You must be very attached to it. I can understand what you went through discovering there was a whole in the tub. Glad you were able to repair!
Louis
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Post# 24720-12/4/2002-14:28 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: WHY A RUBBER TUB, AND SUCTION PUMP (HOW DRY I AM)
MESSAGE: Whirlpool Duets? Oh you heathen!! LOL. Your basement will never be the same again! But seriously, the washer is made by Bauknecht in Germany. They are widely known for their high repair rates. But then again, I guess you will be better able to repair it than the Whirlpool technicians.
Louis
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Post# 24721-12/4/2002-15:09 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: WHY A RUBBER TUB, AND SUCTION PUMP (hettie repairs?)
MESSAGE: Your kidding those things break? WOnder what the sears man is gonna say when he sees 30 washer and dryers in my garage. Glad i got the 5 year warrantee!
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Post# 24722-12/4/2002-15:29 ||| spiralator60 (Los Angeles, California)
SUBJECT: RE: WHY A RUBBER TUB, AND SUCTION PUMP (HOW DRY I AM)
MESSAGE: Hi Bob,
Thanks for the pictures! I am finding out what you meant about the water extraction of Bendix machines with my Duomatic. I have a couple of questions. 1. What is the cleaning action of this Bendix like? From the picture of you holding the Purex tablets, it looks like fabrics are constantly underwater during agitation. Is this correct? 2. Does the rubber tub affect clothes turnover during agitation?
Darryl
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Post# 24723-12/4/2002-16:48 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: WHY A RUBBER TUB, AND SUCTION PUMP (hettie repairs?)
MESSAGE: No, I'm not kidding about Bauknecht. I know several people who swear that they will never buy any Bauknecht product ever again, including my brother and sister in law. Their Bauknecht washer had several repairs in the first year. After the warranty was over the repairman had to come over a few times more. Their latest repair was going to cost around $400.- on a machine that had cost $800.-. So this machine was dumped being 6 years old. And I can tell you a lot more stories.
Since this is about modern appliances, if you want to discuss this further, let's do that in the Sandbox. The link will bring you there.
Louis
LINK: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Applianceville-Sandbox/
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Post# 24724-12/4/2002-17:08 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RUBBER TUB WASH ACTION
MESSAGE: Truthfully, the wash action of the bendix is much like that of a wringer washer - in fact, exactly like that of a wringer washer - one of bendix reasons for making this machine, it has come to my attention, is because it uses a simple wringer washer transmission, which does not have to spin the basket of the machine, and is inexpensive to manufacture - thus making the rubber tub machines CHEAP to own.
I prefer to keep the load constantly under the water in just about any machine I use, and that's a matter of loading. The Bendix fills within an inch of the top of the agitator with one drain of my Kenmore washer, and this is how I fill the Bendix - with the discharge from Great Aunt Kenmore.
Indeed, I have been the owner of this brilliant Bendix machine for nearly 20 years...since 1984...
Can you post some photos of your machine, Spiralator?
I'd really like to know how many of the machines still exist in running order...
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Post# 24725-12/4/2002-17:26 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: POD - Pulsamatic
MESSAGE: Is this a Pulsamatic washer? The ad says it has a "rapidry" but I thought those spun at 600rpm like a typical top loader.
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Post# 24726-12/4/2002-18:31 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Pulsamatic
MESSAGE: Yes, Jason you are correct on both counts: it is a Pulsamatic, and yes it spins at 630. For whatever reason, Frigidaire always prefaced their spin speed with "Rapidry", regardless of the RPM. We think of a rapidry as the 1140 or 1010 spinning machines, but if you've ever looked at literature for 1-18s, it will say "Rapidry 640" (or whatever the speed is, it's somewhere in there).
I suppose they could argue that even that is faster than a lot of machines, the Sears with its 550ish spin, as one example.
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Post# 24727-12/4/2002-19:24 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: GOD TOLD ME
MESSAGE: It is true that in apartments that banned washers because of the vibration and the elaborate installations some automatics had to have, the Econ-o-mat and the Dial-a-matic were dreams come true. And back then, when everyone was used to the wetness of clothes coming out of a wringer, it was believed, and is true to a certain extent, that the action of the sunlight on the water molecules helped bleach them by breaking some of the oxygen-hydrogen bonds and liberating oxygen which bleached like with oxyclean!
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Post# 24728-12/4/2002-20:02 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RepairClinic.Com
MESSAGE: Anyone ever hear of a website called repairclinic.com? I saw it featured on my local area (Hartford, CT) morning news and I thought it looked interesting. Of course, with the ever dreamy "Wally Cleaverish" Logan Byrnes (son of Ed "77 Sunset Strip" Byrnes)as the 5 -7AM anchor, who could concentrate???
Anyway, I thought I would give them a try since the Amana washer is acting up again with that rubbing noise at full spin speed. Only now it is combined with a loud ticking during agitation and it slows noticeably during the spin spray rinse. Their conclusion was pretty interesting, but being a sworn non mechanic - I have no idea if it's correct or not.
Yes, I know this is probably better for the sandbox, but I can't seem to get in today, and I wanted to mention this before I forgot......
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Post# 24729-12/4/2002-20:21 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: RepairClinic.Com (SQ NOISES)
MESSAGE: Still sounds like a nail between the tubs to me...perhaps under one edge of the agitator...could be accountable for both noises....
Have you removed the agitator and visually inspected the tub, using a strong light, and by rubbing your hand over every inch of the surface?
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Post# 24730-12/4/2002-21:01 ||| spiralator60 (Los Angeles, California)
SUBJECT: RE: RUBBER TUB WASH ACTION (I Promise, I Will!)
MESSAGE: Thanks, Bob. It probably won't be until during the holidays that I will be able to post any photos, as work has kept me unexpectedly busy the past few months. Just wanted to let you and everyone else know.
Darryl
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Post# 24731-12/4/2002-21:42 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: (grind-click-clunk... BANG!!!!)
MESSAGE: Well, I didn't jump out of my skin, but sometimes it still caught me by surprise when it droned for an extra long time opening up. Same way with the FS dispenser sometimes. As for the OOB, our switch got "rust challenged" due to me doing a few too many non-neutral drains. Toward the end of its tennure at our house, before it moved on to a friend's house, it would sometimes stick in the buzzer position, even after pulling and pushing in the timer to "reset". Solution, bang on the side of the machine.
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Post# 24732-12/4/2002-21:45 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: All these appliances!!!!
MESSAGE: Hello everyone
I have updated the web site to include the following:
Where do day comes from???
1989 Kenmore Limited Edition
and if you click on Favorite Things you will see 2 picts of the windowed 2002 Kitchen Aid Superba Dryer
LINK: http://bellsouthpwp.net/d/u/dumontj/
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Post# 24733-12/4/2002-21:52 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Washer Memories (OMG! My neighbor had a Fridgidaire just like today's POD!)
MESSAGE: As I mentioned in my original post, I was really fascinataed by this machine. It had no safety switch so you got to see it fill, pulsate and spin if the lid was open. I was very good friends with their son so I was able to spend a lot of time in their kitchen. I was probably one of the few kids on the block who lived for rainy summer days. (There was a coin operated laundry around the corner. On rainy days there used to be a line for the dryers!)
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Post# 24734-12/4/2002-22:04 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: All these appliances!!!!
MESSAGE: Hi Sweetie, I did not know KA was still offering the window door dryer. That's great! I just wish Whirlpool would put a window on a 27" dryer, so I could buy the door as a part and put it on the Sears. Enjoyed your new pictures, looks like your new place is quite nice!
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Post# 24735-12/4/2002-22:15 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: (Smack my 800 up)
MESSAGE: Ah yes, the good ol' SMACK! in the side when it won't spin. When our Kenmore 800 was dying, I too had to give her a good slap in the side to get her to spin. Hey, if Fonzie can do it, so can I.
"whiiiiiiiiiiiiiine-SMACK!-grind-click-clunk-zzzzzzz........" Rapidry 550 WOOHOO!
Sadly, she stopped responding to any slaps, pleading, begging, temper tantrums, etc... If my mom would've had it repaired, it would've been a stuck wigwag but what does she do. Send my best friend to the Krusher and buys a BOL Whirlpool. YUCK! Sure, it had a surgilator and a handy book rack on the back of the washer. I learned to accept it but I could not mistake its quiet and sweet operation for that whiny old Kenmore 800 of days gone by. She could've at least kept the Roto Swirl :-(
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Post# 24736-12/4/2002-22:33 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: WHY A RUBBER TUB, AND SUCTION PUMP (hettie repairs?)
MESSAGE: notafixer, I gotta ask, why 30 washer & dryers in your garage? All HE3? Are you taking in laundry???
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Post# 24737-12/4/2002-22:44 ||| geoff (Connecticut)
SUBJECT: RE: RepairClinic.Com
MESSAGE: Sorry for responding to this here and not in the sandbox. I don't even know the link to the sandbox. I use RepairClinic.com RELIGIOUSLY!!! Their prices are excellent. The part you need is shipped within a week, even with ground shipping. I have been using it for over a year now. Their customer service is EXCELLENT. I once had to call there to inquire about a part and they were VERY friendly, and quickly got me an answer..Actually, on the vintage side of the coin, I have looked through RepairClinic for older parts, which surprisingly, they do have plenty of..They have many old parts for my Whirlpool, as well as old parts for Maytag.As far as Frigidaire, I was looking for a part for one of my friends for His 60's Rapidry, and they have VERY little but they do have some. So I must advertise. If you need a part for vintage or modern, go the RepairClinic first, they may just have what you are looking for and relatively cheap as well :) :) :)
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Post# 24738-12/5/2002-00:16 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: WHY A RUBBER TUB, AND SUCTION PUMP (garage full)
MESSAGE: neh just a bunch us used appliances from the auction house, all top loaders, right now most of em are maytags and about 4 dd kenmores. INteresting i think i have maytags first short stroke machine, it looks like the regular maytag but its only one speed, same blue fin agi, but half the agitation stroke. There is a gentle cycle but all that does is intermittent fast agitation. Unbelievable!
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Post# 24739-12/5/2002-05:22 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: RepairClinic.Com (SQ NOISES)
MESSAGE: Hey, Bob. Actually, back in September when the local Maytag expert was here to "repair" the machine, he had the entire machine apart, so even if there was a nail, it would have come out when the agitator was removed. But then again, nothing would surprise me........
I still think part of the problem is that while a washer is a washer, most repair people cannot figure out an Amana because they have seen so few of them. I am just frustrated because three different repair people came to three different conclusions and now repairclinic.com makes four. Geez, you would think this is a fancy European sports car of something.....
Oh well, time to go get ready for the snow.
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Post# 24740-12/5/2002-05:25 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: (Smack my 800 up)
MESSAGE: Another trick - the one my mother used was to lift the lid slightly and let it drop - then the machine would move along.
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Post# 24741-12/5/2002-05:29 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: RepairClinic.Com (SQ NOISES)
MESSAGE: I forgot to tell you the conclusion. The "reapir guru" wrote back that it sounds like a "bad main tub seal leak that is damaging the main tub bearing along with a bad drive belt". Now if I could only translate that into English..........
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Post# 24742-12/5/2002-07:13 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: BENDIX IS BRILLIANT, ONCE AGAIN
MESSAGE: Excellent repair job - glad it worked so well for you, I can imagine how happy you were to have it all mended and running again! Thanks for all the pictures too!
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Post# 24743-12/5/2002-07:15 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: All these appliances!!!!
MESSAGE: Wow Jason - you have plenty to keep you busy now, will you keep all of these when they are done? Congrats on your finds!
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Post# 24744-12/5/2002-08:48 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: SOMEONE BLEW MY LIGHT OUT, indeed
MESSAGE: Someone needs to punch your CANCEL/DRAIN button on that website.
Creating a link to a page that takes you to a place where you get insulted is IGNUNT... mmmmkay....
What kind of adolescent humor is that? Not funny, I assure you. I certainly look forward to meeting you in person some day, my friend. I've been buddies with some of the folks on this list since you were 5 years old.....I WILL be around, and you'll recognize my face from the lovely photos.....
Do not waste folks time with dead end links that make fun of the reader.....totally ignunt.
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Post# 24745-12/5/2002-09:45 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: All these appliances!!!!
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg. The Dishwashers will be sold,except Peter's Frigidaire Spray Tube. The 1-18's that are now in working order go back to Peter and the rest are staying.
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Post# 24746-12/5/2002-09:46 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: SOMEONE BLEW MY LIGHT OUT, indeed
MESSAGE: I'm so glad you liked the site Bob.
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Post# 24747-12/5/2002-10:06 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: RUBBER TUB WASH ACTION (poltegeist washing)
MESSAGE: Yes, having the clothes levitating out over the water gives TERRIBLE washing results!
-ph
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Post# 24748-12/5/2002-11:56 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: SOMEONE BLEW MY LIGHT OUT, indeed (confused)
MESSAGE: umm... What web page are your talking about?
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Post# 24749-12/5/2002-13:07 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: SOMEONE BLEW MY LIGHT OUT, indeed (confused)
MESSAGE: I do believe that he refers to the pidgin english copy on this here webpage by HQOTS. Maybe it be ignunt, it may be Miss Shirley Q. Liquor honey, but it don't be offensive, so y'all chill or take it to the sandbox. We gots some old washing machines to talk about!
-ph
LINK: http://bellsouthpwp.net/d/u/dumontj/appliances.html
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Post# 24750-12/5/2002-13:44 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: A little non-classic advice please =)
MESSAGE: Hi all,
I fixed up a mid 70's kenmore electric dryer and replaced the start switch with the same year and somewhat same model GAS kenmore, im quite afraid to plug the thing in. Do i have good reason to be or are the switches the same for both gas and electric models (current stepped down to 110 on the 220 models) sorry i don't mean to post this here, but i should ask the real pros otherwise i might not ever post here again if ya know what i mean (bzzzzzt, ahhhhhhhhhhhh, splat) by the way could i really kill myself if something was amiss and i plugged er in?
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Post# 24751-12/5/2002-14:46 ||| Ragnar67 (minnesota)
SUBJECT: maytag gas range
MESSAGE: I am trying to find out how old my maytage Dutch oven gas range modle M 6140 GA is And if ther are any web sights out ther
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Post# 24752-12/5/2002-15:33 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: A little non-classic advice please =)
MESSAGE: Didn't the advice that you got on That Home Site work? I thought we were a hobby/fun site, not an appliance repair business site...
-ph
LINK: http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/appl/msg1217172527931.html?2
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Post# 24753-12/5/2002-15:58 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT: RE: A little non-classic advice please =) (I thought that 70's WERE cosidered "
classic"
here?!)
MESSAGE: It seems that I've seen many other posts about 70's and 80's washers and dryers here with no complaints. Who determines just what IS classic. This is a great resource for folks; I do realize that there are bandwidth/storage restrictions. It is great that you can provide links to helpful repair sites- isn't that one of the purposes here? In the good ol' USA, anything more than a few years old is considered ancient; it makes it difficult to find info. Please continue to point folks in the right direction!
Thanks!
Duane
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Post# 24754-12/5/2002-16:08 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Philco Wringer
MESSAGE: Have fun!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2078641539&category=20714
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Post# 24755-12/5/2002-17:38 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: A little non-classic advice please =)
MESSAGE: yeah peter i sure did, i just wanted to check with you guys, man you can can be brutal, whats wrong with you people! People getting mad about websites i mean god! I'll just go fry my brains out thanks for the advice!
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Post# 24756-12/5/2002-18:13 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: A little non-classic advice please =) (Sorry Peter)
MESSAGE: Sorry peter,
I shouldn't have lashed out like that, i was just wanting a little coaching from people that i look up to. But on a side note and i promise not to ever bring this up again here, I think some of the more "classic" members here need to realize that to someone in their 20's a childhood machine IS an 85 belt driven whirlpool, and i don't think its cool that we get blasted for appreciating machines that bring back fond memories to us ya know?
Ok so I ask questions about newer machines because I'm trying to be a young John Lefelter but being miffed at peoples personalities (jason vs bob) and posts like mine i just don't see why we need to waste time and emotion getting all riled up against eachother, i mean we all have a common interest here.
Ok im done, I'll get back on my soap box in another two years =)
Thanks for listening!
~Steven
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Post# 24757-12/5/2002-18:29 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: As Jackie DeShannon would sing
MESSAGE: What this website needs now is love sweet love
It's the only thing that there's just too little of.
This is heartbreaking. The only group of people that love old appliances. The only site for it and some of the people within this community fight amongst themselves. What about those poor souls out there who were once like yourselves thought they were the ONLY ONES that liked appliances. Then when they find this website, they see these people arguing or snapping at someone. It was just serve to scare them away. Had I found this message board in the state it is today, I would've felt betrayed by the only group of people I know that share the same interests as me.
I'm not against anyone here and I sure hope no one's against me here. I just miss the classic Classic Appliances where everyone talked about old machines and had fun. I learned alot about my obsession and made some really good friends in those days. Bring'em back.
Sorry for the rant but I just had to say what I was feeling.
NOW.... as PeterH suggested. Old washing machines.
Although this is debateable. I own a 1977 Lady Kenmore portable washer. They don't make'em like that anymore so I consider her a classic. Maybe not vintage or very desirable, just unique and cool, and it's a belt drive Kenmore, just the way I like it.
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Post# 24758-12/5/2002-20:07 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: MONITOR WRINGER
MESSAGE: I'm working on the little Monitor wringer washer tonight...I have it all in pieces, and have had the motor open and lubed earlier this evening. All rubber is in the revitalization process currently (coated with WD-40) and the pulsator plate has been removed for cleaning and greasing of the drive shaft bearings...it's all going along swimingly, and I expect the little fellow to be up and doing laundry tomorrow.
Jamie - this is the only little washer at my house we didn't get to run at the convention - and wait until you see the model emblem - it's a young man, running very fast, in big pants....
photos tomorrow.
HAPPY HAPPY HO HO HO
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Post# 24759-12/5/2002-20:23 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: MONITOR WRINGER (COOL)
MESSAGE: Oh I wish I had the chance to see your laundry room. Sheesh. Oh well, maybe next time.
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Post# 24760-12/5/2002-20:31 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: MONITOR WRINGER (young man running through Sears)
MESSAGE: Hey, I resemble that!
Sears store in New Orleans East, 1977. A raving 6 year old breaks free from his mother's grip and begins to run at full speed. He's not running to the toys, nor the stereos. He's headed full steam ahead for the appliance section and he's aiming for that new Lady Kenmore with the dual-action agitator. He stops just short of running into the washing machine. He flips open the lid and there it is! His jaw drops in awe as he sees the newest thing in appliance technology (apparently he hasn't seen the Frigidaire yet), and he exclaims with a voice loud enough to catch the attention of all the people including his mother (who know exactly where her son is), "THIS IS THE WASHER OF THE FUTURE!". Ironically, that prophecy came true even for the Frigidaires.
Dramatic, ain't I?
And that's how that young man running in big pants got on your Monitor washer.
HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY
:-)
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Post# 24761-12/5/2002-20:34 ||| Activator (Tulsa, OK)
SUBJECT: General Hello
MESSAGE: Hello everybody! It's been ages since I posted, and a lot has happened...there's a long, wordy updated "bio" in my profile. I'd like any leads anyone has on gas cooktops, preferably in an "intense" color like pink or aqua/turquoise. It's been a difficult autumn and I need to treat myself...all the best to each of you for a Happy Holiday Season, free of oversudsing and unbalanced spin cycles....:)
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Post# 24762-12/5/2002-21:19 ||| davy1063 (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco Wringer
MESSAGE: Jamie, that washer is about 25 minutes from my house. Want me to pick it up for ya (lol)
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Post# 24763-12/6/2002-00:14 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: MONITOR WRINGER (young man running through Sears)
MESSAGE: Whoa, that was me walking past the washer section in 77 at 10 yr. old. I was totally inthralled with the portable kennys, and thought it was made just for little people. I remember looking at the back at the hoses.
They used to have a couple of machines that were "live" demos. I remember hearing a harvest gold full size going filling and then agitating. Ah the good old day. I don't think they do that anymore. Frankly, you'd be lucky to find a sales person who could remember that.
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Post# 24764-12/6/2002-00:15 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: All these appliances!!!!
MESSAGE: Thank You Scott. KA does not offer the window door anymore. I ordered all the parts to make the door. Next is trying to figure out how to put a window in the 27in dryer. This should be interesting.
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Post# 24765-12/6/2002-00:20 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: A little non-classic advice please =) (Sorry Peter)
MESSAGE: Steven, right on, because you are the next generation that will restore classic appliances from the 70s & 80s. I don't feel you were out of line at all. Bob
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Post# 24766-12/6/2002-00:23 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: As Jackie DeShannon would sing
MESSAGE: Well stated Jason!!!
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Post# 24767-12/6/2002-00:56 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: A little non-classic advice please =) (Sorry Peter)
MESSAGE: I rather agree. Words like "Classic" or "Vintage" are quite ambiguous, especially in todays usage. I am amazed how often you see the word vintage on E-bay - used as if it refers to something from like a time before 1960 and is of something valuable. In fact it is a quantitative word rather than qualitative. You must specify when using it. In my opinion, the mere abuse of the word automatically discounts the value of the object attempting to be discribed, or at least the person doing the describing.
As far as the group here, we are a small group but its so unique, and the site so well put together. And yes we all have different interests, but to be unappreciative of others interests reflects negatively on the unapprecative person and their interests. i know I will never have the knowledge of how to rebuild a Bendix or ABC of any age. Or the interest for that matter. Thanks to this groups, however, I have learned more about them. I appreciate that there are others that, like myself, also enjoy appliances and what they represent to them. If I ever ran accross a machine that was older than what I look for I would let everyone in the room know of its availabiliy.
I have to go put my clothes in the dryer, See-ya
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Post# 24768-12/6/2002-02:09 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: MONITOR WRINGER (am I a little people?)
MESSAGE: 1977 Lady Kenmore portable with the "converter" to make it a permanant installation. Holds 6 bath towels, 3 pairs of pants and shirts, or a double-size set of sheets (and that's full). Spins at 850 rpm. You should see it go! In fact, you will soon.
LINK: http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/kenmore800/lst?&.dir=/pictures/Lady+Kenmore+portable&.src=bc&.view=t&.begin=1&.order=&.done=http%3a//briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/kenmore800/lst%3f%26.dir=/pictures/Lady%2bKenmore%2bportable%26.src=bc%26.view=t
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Post# 24769-12/6/2002-02:18 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: As Jackie DeShannon would sing (thank you)
MESSAGE: My relationship with Classic Apps was starting to hang by a thread again so I had to say something. I have no plans on leaving.
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Post# 24770-12/6/2002-02:23 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: The Royal Family of Home Laundry Equipment
MESSAGE: Just finished reading the 1953 Speed Queen Manual (Some new Ikea closets kept me busy). This is one of my favourite machines. And Greg (gansky) has a set (albeit a 1954 I believe). A thing of beauty..! I love the Art Deco styling of this machine. Thank you Robert for the OM of the month. What a wonderful addition to this site. And Greg, I hope to see them sometime!
Louis
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Collection+Photos&.dnm=South+Room+4.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 24771-12/6/2002-02:38 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: The Royal Family of Home Laundry Equipment (1954 Speed Queen)
MESSAGE: Does that model also have the solenoid like the 60s models (like the one at the convention). I have lots of video of that one with all the noises. The pump going "slurrrrp... slurrrp.... slurrrrp." and the solenoid going "THUMP!"
FUN!
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Post# 24772-12/6/2002-02:39 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: TCOX where are you?!
MESSAGE: Did ya get'em yet? I got two almost full laundry baskets waiting to be Jet Cleaned.
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Post# 24773-12/6/2002-05:29 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: MONITOR WRINGER (young man running through Sears)
MESSAGE: No, that was me in Sears or just about any other department store that sold appliances in 1962, 1963, etc.....
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Post# 24774-12/6/2002-07:07 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: The Royal Family of Home Laundry Equipment
MESSAGE: You will see them!! They are truly beautiful machines, but I think you will be horrified at how much water the washer uses for such a small load - it even shocked Robert if that gives you any idea!
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Post# 24775-12/6/2002-07:11 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: The Royal Family of Home Laundry Equipment (1954 Speed Queen)
MESSAGE: The '54 is nearly identical mechanically to the early 60's model at John's - solenoids the size of your fist, snapping at the changing of the cycles!
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Post# 24776-12/6/2002-07:18 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: TCOX where are you?!
MESSAGE: Jason, I am impatiently awaiting the arrival of the 1-18 set. They were picked up 10 days ago by Craters & Freighters, so I expect to see them around Tues or Wed of next week. Spending this weekend running a 220 line for the dryer. I, too, am poised and ready to wash ... will call you when I get them so you can experience alittle "jet action". You'll be avocado with envy.
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Post# 24777-12/6/2002-07:56 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: TCOX where are you?!
MESSAGE: Awesome! I can't wait to see and use the machines.
Another Land Of Rust washin coming soon.
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Post# 24778-12/6/2002-08:05 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: POD
MESSAGE: I never heard of Hamilton, are they made under another name?? Is this another "AMC" type brand?? Are these from the mid or late sixties?
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Post# 24779-12/6/2002-09:44 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (POD)
MESSAGE: It's a Norge
Peter
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Post# 24780-12/6/2002-09:45 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (POD)
MESSAGE: It's a Norge
Peter
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Post# 24781-12/6/2002-09:48 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (POD)
MESSAGE: I was gonna guess Beam/Hotpoint/Whatever? It looks like a solid tub. I guess those are one of the really rare machines.
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Post# 24782-12/6/2002-10:34 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: Classic Appliances Jr.com
MESSAGE: Maybe its time to make a classicappliancesjr.com so that the classic guys can have their space and us youngsters can have ours? I'd be willing to maintain it.
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Post# 24783-12/6/2002-10:38 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: A little non-classic advice please =) (so true)
MESSAGE: Amen, and I really think we owe Robert Seger alot for putting this site together. Where is that boy anyway?
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Post# 24784-12/6/2002-10:40 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: MONITOR WRINGER (the little lady)
MESSAGE: Say jason you mean the portable spins faster than the regular sized ones? Thats so cool!
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Post# 24785-12/6/2002-11:13 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com (OLD FLATUIENCE)
MESSAGE: A special group for the young people? Now I really feel like an old fart.
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Post# 24786-12/6/2002-11:41 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: All these appliances!!!!
MESSAGE: You're welcome Jason! I always enjoy browsing your site. If you ever do figure out a window scenario for the 27 in dryer, do let me know! :-)
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Post# 24787-12/6/2002-11:52 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: As Jackie DeShannon would sing (thank you)
MESSAGE: Jason, I'm glad you said what you felt, and I am glad you are staying. You contribute so much to this club and interject such a sense of fun and wonder into everything you do, your presence here (and of all our diverse members!) is truly a wonderful thing. We each inidividually are what help to make this a great club.
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Post# 24788-12/6/2002-11:57 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The Royal Family of Home Laundry Equipment
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, this Speed Queen pair is truly a royal site to behold. The beauty, quality and craftsmanship is really something to see. Greg did tell us what the pair would cost in today's dollars; we forget the figure, but it was quite high.
It was fun to see the closely corresponding manual, and we too have thoroughly enjoyed this recent additional feature of the club.
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Post# 24789-12/6/2002-12:03 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: MONITOR WRINGER (young man running through Sears)
MESSAGE: and me, probably any one of us! My favorite part was always the live demonstration washers and dishwashers, esp. the roto-rack Sears d/w.
Wards was fun too; they always kept the TOL washer running, and a see-through dishwasher, and they did things like having flashing colored light bulbs plugged into the range outlets (back when ranges had outlets!). And of course, the little colored streamers showing air blowing out of the air conditioners. In the vacuum department, a vacuum was used to make a stuffed seal appear to be balancing a beach ball on his nose. Does anyone else remember that one? :)
Oh! And remember the refrigerators and freezers would often have plastic toy food in them!
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Post# 24790-12/6/2002-12:04 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: OLD AGE
MESSAGE: I agree, we should have a group for folks who wish to live to be old, and know that today, they're young, like myself, at 40 - at 40, I still feel YOUNG, Considering one of my goals is to live to be 120 years old....
Some young folks today (say, up to 25 or so) think, THAT'S ALL THERE IS, and have no RESPECT for older folks, and may well think that 40 is old.....Oh My Gootness...
I'm a HUGE Shirley Q fan for WELL over a year now, and all I can say is, at least her brand of ignunce is funny. The kind of ignunce we see here at our site, which is now appearing to be a 'young people need to be separated from the old people' thing is TOTALLY IGNUNT.
Now get over it, and have some damn respect for your elders. Do you know that Santa is coming to town - You don't want to be on the naughty list when he does, do you...
Can't we all just get along here????
Now - who wants to see photos of my exerent cool monitor wringer? There's no age limit, or height requirement for viewing....all someone here has to do is ax me to see it, as if interested.....I shall then generate lovely photos....in the moment...
My point, and I sometimes do have one, is that young people today need to broaden their minds more than they think they do, and realize that folks are living older and older in this day and age.....I know a guy (with a new whirlpool duet) who's 41 and just had his first child....and in my mind...that's more like how it should be, as opposed to Shirley Q. Liquor, and her 19 chirrens....mmmkay?
Now - who wants to see a load turning over as if in a front loader, but in a SQUARE tub, and activated by a pulsator plate? It's cool, and makes some exerent slurping sounds too...
ANYONE could own a machine like this...I purchased it at auction, for 20 bucks, ugly, and dead. It's late 40's to early fifties (at the latest), and was a simple, and fun rebuild. As I say anyone COULD do it - there's no age limit - but you have to be really special to actually DO IT.
By the way - it's not the age - it's the condition, that counts.
; - )
PEACE & LOVE
BOB
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Post# 24791-12/6/2002-12:05 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: TCOX where are you?!
MESSAGE: Jason, will you be doing any laundry this evening to "Tide" you over 'til the washin? Have you thought about your music selections? :)
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Post# 24792-12/6/2002-12:12 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD
MESSAGE: Greg, Hamilton started out as a clothes dryer company in the 40s, and continued on to the mid 70s. They left the washer production to Norge, though toward the very end that may have changed to Franklin or some such thing. To my knowledge they never expanded their line beyond laundry equipment.
They were advertised a lot in the 1950s, and I think many were purchased to accompany wringer washers, then kept when the person switched to automatic. I have only once ever seen a Hamilton washer at a sale.
It's possible you may have seen one or more of the dryers over time and never even realized it. If you ever recall a dryer with a smallish rectangular window in the door, that was a Hamilton. Early models had no control panel and the dials on the front, later ones looked like a more modern dryer like the one in the POD, but they always had a window.
You still see quite a few of them at our estate sales today, still hooked up and running. They are extremely quiet, and do a very nice job of drying.
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Post# 24793-12/6/2002-12:15 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com
MESSAGE: Well Steven I of course can't speak for the entire group singlehandedly, but personally I prefer the all in one concept. I like having friends of all ages and types. Everyone has a unique and interesting perspective to offer.
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Post# 24794-12/6/2002-12:41 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com (Tempest in a teapot?)
MESSAGE: Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I though notafixer was thinking of appliance age, rather than collector age. Anyway, I thought anything 1978 or earlier was OK for this place. And who hasn't needed some help with a rebuild or repair from time to time? Tempest in a teapot?
Let's not let the occasional overbearing/overcontrolling post throw cold water on the enjoyment. Sometimes people momentarily step over the line into the area of too much control, as well as too much freedom, and that's what makes the world such an amusing place.
We might want to consider a sliding window for what to consider "classic", or "vintage" or "antique" or whatever term one wants to use to describe appliances suitable for discussion here. Maybe anything 24 years or more old? That would make 1978 and earlier ok this year. Next year, anything 1979 or earlier. And so on and so forth. And let's not be too rigid, after all, as Jason says, we all love our old appliances and a few years either way isn't going to be the end of the world.
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Post# 24795-12/6/2002-12:47 ||| Chrisfa1 (Northridge, CA)
SUBJECT: 1936 GE Refrigerator Problem
MESSAGE: Hello!
I bought an old GE Flat Top that was built in about 1936. Some guy had been storing it in his garage for many years. But, he had not been running it. I bought it from him for 15 bucks.
Anyway, I brought it home and put a new power cord on it and replaced the other decaying wires. Turned it on and it runs.
But, how long should it take to get to optimum temperature inside? It's got "cool" in there. And the refrigerant tubes and freezer compartment got really cold and frosty. But, then, a few hours later, it wasn't so frosty. And it seems to run non-stop all day. IS this normal?
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Post# 24796-12/6/2002-12:58 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com (Tempest in a teapot?)
MESSAGE: yep i was thinking appliance age, sorry should have been more specific, i do love each and everyones contribution but i don't want to get busted for talking about whats classic to me or for asking for help. Maybe we can add another applianceville discussion group for *newer* appliances?
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Post# 24797-12/6/2002-12:58 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: MONITOR WRINGER (the little lady)
MESSAGE: OH yes it does! It sounds just like a big Kenmore. The wigwag goes "GRRRRRIND-CLICK-CLUNK" and that little tub hauls. It gets the clothes dryer than a regular 550 rpm Kenmore. The early portables had the same 12lb tub as the big Kenmores and those ran at 550.
Truth be known, I'd rather that because it had more capacity. I can always spin the clothes out in my new Kenmore front loader.
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Post# 24798-12/6/2002-13:00 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com (Nahhh)
MESSAGE: Let's keep it on the same website. I think that any machine that isn't in production anymore should be considered "classic". For instance, a 20 year old can say he grew up with a 1982 GE Filter Flo. Yes, it's the 80s but GE doesn't make'em anymore. Therefore: "classic". I would say "Vintage" would be like a Frigidaire Unimatic. An uncommon washer at best. Of course I consider a Kenmore 800 as "vintage" but only because of sentimental reason.
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Post# 24799-12/6/2002-13:02 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: MONITOR WRINGER (young man running through Sears)
MESSAGE: I caught the very tail end of those days. I remember seeing the DAA in action. I remember BEGGING my mom to get a DAA, a dishwasher with the window, and a portable Kenmore. I must have been blind because those were the Kenmore 800 days. I guess I didn't know what I had until it was gone.
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Post# 24800-12/6/2002-13:07 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: OLD AGE (Bring it on!)
MESSAGE: Let's see that Monitor washer in action.
Bob, as one of the members here. I look up to you. You have the coolest stuff. Well, so does Robert Seeger and some other collectors, don't get me wrong. But you also collect vintage electronics and RECORD PLAYERS! I admire that! The difference between my vintage hi-fi and your vintage hi-fi is that your stuff works LOL> Well. my stuff kinda works but I need to get off my butt and start restoring those things.
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Post# 24801-12/6/2002-13:11 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: TCOX where are you?!
MESSAGE: Hmmm... Actually, my washing machine days has been changed to Sunday because I usually go to band practice. I play drums. But today, since I'm home sick with the flu, I think a good ol' fashioned wash-in with pizza is in order.
The playlist is a huge Winamp playlist called "Kenmore 800 - The Soundtrack". Features such pop celebrities as Tom Jones, Dionne Warwick, Sonny & Cher, The Turtles, The Byrds... Lots of Burt Bacharach songs to name a few.
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Post# 24802-12/6/2002-13:16 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com (Nahhh)
MESSAGE: It's funny when a person stops to think Jason...I realize that none of the washer companies are using their original tried and true designs anymore, with the possible exception of Maytag using Norge, but even that isn't called Norge and doesn't look anything like the Norge we remember. (Do the Maytag Norges have the same loud noises, neutral drain and wide arc of the older machines?)
It's amazing the machines that I grew up knowing as your typical everyday machine (the Filterflo, Frigidaire, Maytag, Sears etc) that no longer exist in the form we're accustomed. Or, for that matter, that those typical everyday machines are now upwards of a quarter century old and aren't that typical anymore, and someone my age will think "I *can't possibly* be that old!!" and then you realize just how quickly time marches on, underscoring the importance of enjoying every day one is given, and keeping alive the memory of those old "friends".
Then I think of Jamie, who has lived his *entire life* in a post jet action, post belt drive, post helical drive, post colored appliance world, and his favorite machine is one that ceased production more than a decade before his birth, and has interest in wringer washers, which were already very rare even when I was growing up. Diversity is truly a wonderful thing!
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Post# 24803-12/6/2002-13:20 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: MONITOR WRINGER (young man running through Sears)
MESSAGE: I know what you mean there! Thankfully, so many of us have been able to find a piece of those memories again, and with the longevity of Sears washers and the quality materials they used then, I just know your 800 is right around the corner!
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Post# 24804-12/6/2002-13:22 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: TCOX where are you?!
MESSAGE: Well the washin and music part sounds great, but I'm sorry to hear you're feeling ill. Hope you'll be better soon! I had it last week.
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Post# 24805-12/6/2002-13:46 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com (Norgetag)
MESSAGE: The new Norgetags don't make the same noise as the classic Norge. It just hums but it has a long agitation stroke. It also spin drains. If I buy a new top loader, that's what I would get.
My friend's dying Magic Chef is more of the classic Norge. When it agitates it goes "uuUUUuuuUUUUuuuUUUUUuuuuUUUUuu...." like Robert's Norge. This one also spin-drains. So at least a classic sound is there. Unfortunately the Land Of Rust is taking its toll on that poor machine. I need to go videotape it before it's too late.
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Post# 24806-12/6/2002-13:47 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com (Nahhh)
MESSAGE: I remember seeing the DD Kenmores when they first came out in the 80s. I remember saying "Well, that's it. The classics are gone. I'll never get my old Kenmore 800 back."
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Post# 24807-12/6/2002-13:59 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com (Nahhh)
MESSAGE: Well, with so many folks having Sears machines from the 50s / 60s in their collections, I will continue to hold out every hope for you to have your 800, even though you can't buy anything like it new in a store. Sears kind of lost me even before the direct drives, because that last batch of generic belt drives they made when the DAA came out just didn't do it for me. They're fine machines, yes, and the DAA was interesting and different, but compared to what had been, they're just very generic in appearance. One exception is the other Jason's belt driven black electronic pushbutton machine.
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Post# 24808-12/6/2002-13:59 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (POD)
MESSAGE: Hi Pete
Although Norge made the first Hamilton washers and did so for many years, I believe this POD model is not a Norge, but actually a Blackstone-built machine. The later models of Hamilton were not Norge machines.
Rich
Interesting note: Hamilton was a dryer manufacturing company and never built their own washing machines. The Hamilton gas dryer was very well known and respected. Hamilton also manufacture dryers for washing machine manufacturers. In fact, the first Frigidaire dryers were Hamilton-built.
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Post# 24809-12/6/2002-14:02 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com (Nahhh)
MESSAGE: It was funny because when I saw them at first, I didn't realize they had changed the transmission, I thought they had just changed the control panel style and a few other things (I noticed the tub was deeper and narrower, things like that). I didn't know til I got one home and turned it on and thought "what is up with this!"
To be fair, having owned 3 DD machines at various times I have to say I've never had any of the problems with the DD that some folks here have, but still, of course, it's just not quite the same.
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Post# 24810-12/6/2002-14:26 ||| JoeEkaitis (Rialto, California, USA)
SUBJECT: How expensive were those Hamiltons?! (12/06/02 POD)
MESSAGE: That poor couple with the new baby spent so much on their Hamilton washer and dryer, all they could afford is a living room with the furniture painted on the walls.
Pretty expensive laundry pair, eh? :)
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Post# 24811-12/6/2002-14:35 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com (Sandbox/Hamper)
MESSAGE: There's already a child forum of this one, called the Applianceville Sandbox or Hamper. It's over on Yahoo, and all sorts of stuff are discussed there, within reason.
LINK: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Applianceville-Sandbox/
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Post# 24812-12/6/2002-15:38 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: MONITOR WRINGER (young man running through Sears)
MESSAGE: Yes, the seal! Loved it! When they weren't looking you could run your hand thru the air stream and make the ball go up and down. Sometimes if they used one of those multi colored blow up beach balls the air flow would catch the seams and make the ball spin.
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Post# 24813-12/6/2002-15:50 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: When is new old enough
MESSAGE: I've been thinking about the discussion of "those of us who have had time to ripen" vs "those who are just starting to bloom" and it hit me. As long as there are companies that make such unique and totally useless items as the new Betty Crocker Ferris Wheeler Cooker, there will always be things to take apart and put back together. (I know, this is not a washer). But really wouldn't all of us like to take apart one of those Japanese "bubble" washer just to see how the heck it worked? Really Love this site!
Tom
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Post# 24814-12/6/2002-16:15 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com
MESSAGE: No, I don't think so. I think it's important that every generation is represented here so that knowledge and enthousiasm can be passed on to younger generations (as if we are old). Besides that I think a little respect for eachother's preferences in classic or vintage appliances is in place here. We all have our own reasons for liking a certain washer or other appliance, often feeded by the memories of our childhood. Let's keep that in mind.
This site is a home for many people that have thought for years to be the only one to have a thing for appliances. Therefor we should stick together and not divide into several groups.
Louis
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Post# 24815-12/6/2002-16:32 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: MONITOR WRINGER (AC streamers)
MESSAGE: I remember the streamers tied to the AC and it was on. I remember on one of my birthdays, my mom tied some balloons and strings to the Wizard window AC and they would flutter in the wind. I thought that was cool as heck. It looked like we were at Sears, or Western Auto to be exact.
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Post# 24816-12/6/2002-16:34 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (POD - It's A Blackstone)
MESSAGE: You are right Rich - this is a Blackstone made washer.
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Post# 24817-12/6/2002-17:06 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (POD - It's A Blackstone)
MESSAGE: That's interesting! When did they start having them, rather than Norge?
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Post# 24818-12/6/2002-17:07 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: MONITOR WRINGER (AC streamers)
MESSAGE: Fun! Speaking of air conditioners, you often speak of how things rust in your area. Is that because of excess humidity, or because of the salt getting in the air from the ocean? I would think the air conditioners would help with the humidity part.
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Post# 24819-12/6/2002-17:46 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: MONITOR WRINGER (The Land Of Rust)
MESSAGE: New Orleans is plagued with high humidity most of the year. Over here, the washing machine and dryer are in the garage or in the older houses in some back room. The stoves and fridges survive but the washers that are kept in the garage or in the laundry room get alot of the heat and humidity. And that's why they rust. Also, when they're discarded and put in a junkyard they're eaten to bits by the rust.
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Post# 24820-12/6/2002-18:26 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: MONITOR WRINGER (AC streamers)
MESSAGE: We had the same problem in FL. Growing up our house faced the Gulf and the back was on Boca Ciega Bay. I remember that FL Power at one time offered a device that you could connect to w/d and central ac's that was supposed to act as a sacrifical anode and save them. We even moved the central a/c condenser into the garage and suspended it from the rafters (what a monster! early 50's a/c's were not small!) but nothing helped. Alum windows, condensor coils w/d all were eaten alive long before their prime.
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Post# 24821-12/6/2002-19:14 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: MONITOR VIDEO (FOR YOUR VIDEO MONITOR)
MESSAGE: --SEE - the little 'powerhouse' Monitor washer in action...
--- HEAR - soundtrack by Spike Jones, POWERHOUSE..
---- MARVEL - at the delightfully horrible camera work..
----- REMEMBER - you saw it here, first!
PEACE & JOY
BOB
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/MONITOR/INDEX.htm
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Post# 24822-12/6/2002-19:34 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: MONITOR VIDEO (FOR YOUR VIDEO MONITOR) (ROCKS!)
MESSAGE: Dude, that was completely cool.
I didn't know Spike Jones did that song. I know it's on the Bugs Bunny cartoons. What's the name of that song anyway? Powerhouse? I had a cassette tape of the best of Spike Jones that I completely wore out. Now I have to get it on CD.
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Post# 24823-12/6/2002-19:35 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: OUCH! MONITOR NEARLY BROKE MY ARM!
MESSAGE: OW OW OW...OW OW....LIKE A DUMMY - I was reaching into the monitor with it running, to remove clothes from the rinse water for manual wringing and BAM - BAM Jammed my left index finger into the spining pulsator disc which threw my arm forward and hit my forearm against the stainless steel lip of the tub...OW OW OW..OW OW.. THAT'S gonna be a bruise...
I'm O.K. though...wiser for the experience....do not try this at home yourself....OW OW OW...definately no safety devices on this machine....not for use by children under 40....ow ow ow....
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Post# 24824-12/6/2002-19:38 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: SPIKE JONES
MESSAGE: I'm a HUGE Spike Jones collector as well, and have most of his recorded output. I didn't know he did this, either, but I found it at Kazaa....sure enough sounds like late Spike Jones to me...from his Visual Sound Stereo period...
Thanks man. I can share all the Spike I've got with you via the internet now....ain't life grand?
ow ow ow..
BOB
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Post# 24825-12/6/2002-20:04 ||| zzzzz (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: MONITOR VIDEO (FOR YOUR VIDEO MONITOR) (Powerhouse originally a Raymond Scott recording
Powerhouse"
originally performed by Raymond Scott)
MESSAGE: Actually, "Powerhouse" was written and originally performed by Raymond Scott, recorded in 1937. Carl Stalling, musical director for the treasure trove of vintage Warner Brothers Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies cartoons, was so enamored of Raymond Scott's themes that he adapted them to cartoon-soundtrack duty, with Scott's blessing, of course. Raymond Scott performances also made their way onto a handful of second-season Ren and Stimpy episodes.
The link below leads to the Amazon.com listing for a Raymond Scott compilation released in 1992. It's a highly-recommended disc (I have one), with excellent liner notes to boot.
BTW, the Spike Lee adaptation seems to work as the Monitor Washer Theme.
LINK: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00001R3H7/qid=1039225603/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/002-0163789-7653630
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Post# 24826-12/6/2002-20:29 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: SPIKE LEE?
MESSAGE: No. Spike JONES, man. Musical Comedian - not kung-fu fighter.
Anyway...Powerhouse has ALWAYS been stuck in my musical brain as a PROFOUND work of music, exactly right for viewing mechanical events occuring in the home or work place...
I began knowing this at about the age of 4 or 5....and someday hope to be in a musical group that is good enough to perform this number....I'm a tromboner, you know...oh, yes, I am.
ow ow ow
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Post# 24827-12/6/2002-20:45 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: MONITOR VIDEO (FOR YOUR VIDEO MONITOR) (Ren & Stimpy)
MESSAGE: The best cartoon ever!
YOU EEEEDIOT!!!
On their cartoon, "Jiminy Lummox", there's a scene with a washing machine. Stimpy is washing Ren's collection of used celebrity underwear.
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Post# 24828-12/6/2002-21:21 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: POWERHOUSE - RAYMOND SCOTT
MESSAGE: Thanks for turning me on to the song writer's name, and to that exellent link, zzzzzz..
went straight to my kazaa and, sure enough, someone's sharing the entire album...in time, I should have it....3 selections came in this evening, already, and you're right...they're fabulous...each one is a different cycle, in a different machine...can't wait to own an original 78...to be played on the 1930 Philco 296...which is a powerhouse, indeed.
ow ow.
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Post# 24829-12/6/2002-21:27 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: POD
MESSAGE: Yes, Hamilton was a Franklin machinethrough the 60's and ultimately a White Consolidated product, though the 50's models were made by Norge.
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Post# 24830-12/6/2002-22:45 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RINSE YOUR MONITOR
MESSAGE: Here's another video....
photos to follow
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/MONITOR/INDEX2.htm
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Post# 24831-12/6/2002-23:22 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: RINSE YOUR MONITOR
MESSAGE: Excellent videos! Does this washer use an impeller, similar to a Hoover?
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Post# 24832-12/6/2002-23:29 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: FINAL FOTOS OF THE MONITOR
MESSAGE: O.K. that satisfies my urge to do manual laundry again for quite a while...I must say, my nails haven't looked this white and clean in some time...oxyclean...probably should wear rubber gloves next time...wonder if I can still get Pink ones...
Hope you can enjoy these photos...Sorry about life for you folks with dialup connections...
PEACE OW.
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/MONITOR/INDEX3.htm
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Post# 24833-12/6/2002-23:35 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: RINSE YOUR MONITOR (impeller - aerator - wobble plate - etc.)
MESSAGE: Yes. Very similar to the Hoover. On the back at the bottom of the monitor wringer it reads...aerator model aerw-4, so I guess perhaps this type of impeller is called an aerator..I call it a lint generating sun of a gun...never saw so much lint, lay so heavily, that it drained and cracked into a fractal type pattern, like lightning...see the final foto link, last shot..it's lint....
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Post# 24834-12/6/2002-23:55 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: As Jackie DeShannon would sing (thank you)
MESSAGE: Jason, I'm glad you're not leaving. I can't imagine this site without you.
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Post# 24835-12/7/2002-00:01 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: The Royal Family of Home Laundry Equipment
MESSAGE: Luigi, don't we ALL hope to see them SOMEDAY!!!
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Post# 24836-12/7/2002-00:04 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: FINAL FOTOS OF THE MONITOR
MESSAGE: Great pictures, and there of course is the little Hoover-like impeller!
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Post# 24837-12/7/2002-00:05 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: RINSE YOUR MONITOR (impeller - aerator - wobble plate - etc.)
MESSAGE: Wow...I was wondering about that last photo, having looked at it before reading this post!
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Post# 24838-12/7/2002-00:12 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: MONITOR WRINGER (am I a little people?)
MESSAGE: Jason, I got the matching Lady Dryer about a week ago (although she is harvest gold, so i don't know if that counts as matching, but control panel is the same). Shes in very good condition considering the age. It is sitting in my kitchen as well for lack of room, but I must admit I never thought of her as "resting" LOL. Or perhaps shes justing taking a nap. i like her though, I think it would be in my top 5 favs at this point.
What kind of erks me is that about 3 years ago i found a basic portable on the curb, that would match this, in Harvest gold from the same line, same panel, although not a Lady. I think it had only 1 cycle. And it worked so smooth and in good condition, but I got rid of it. I wasn't "officially" collecting then yes, i was in Washer denial, but no more.
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Post# 24839-12/7/2002-00:12 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: MONITOR WRINGER (young man running through Sears (Joni Mitchell))
MESSAGE: Don't it always seem to go, that you don't know what you've got 'till it's gone. Take belt drive, give us a direct drive Shredmore (oh la la)
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Post# 24840-12/7/2002-00:12 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: MONITOR WRINGER (am I a little people?)
MESSAGE: Jason, I got the matching Lady Dryer about a week ago (although she is harvest gold, so i don't know if that counts as matching, but control panel is the same). Shes in very good condition considering the age. It is sitting in my kitchen as well for lack of room, but I must admit I never thought of her as "resting" LOL. Or perhaps shes justing taking a nap. i like her though, I think it would be in my top 5 favs at this point.
What kind of erks me is that about 3 years ago i found a basic portable on the curb, that would match this, in Harvest gold from the same line, same panel, although not a Lady. I think it had only 1 cycle. And it worked so smooth and in good condition, but I got rid of it. I wasn't "officially" collecting then yes, i was in Washer denial, but no more.
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Post# 24841-12/7/2002-00:14 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: The Royal Family of Home Laundry Equipment
MESSAGE: Oh my, I'm water logged already. Can we recycle the water and drain it into another washer???
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Post# 24842-12/7/2002-00:16 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: TCOX where are you?!
MESSAGE: Just don't forget to add some Rustoleium!!!
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Post# 24843-12/7/2002-00:19 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Hamilton)
MESSAGE: Greg, Hamilton was one of THE mainstay tank-built dryers of the 1950s. Had a window in the door. Robert showed a few during hs Saturday estate sale finds throught the history of the club. They were fine machines.
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Post# 24844-12/7/2002-00:22 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: The Royal Family of Home Laundry Equipment
MESSAGE: Wow fresh out of the box, just delivered, brand new. look at those babies shine.
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Post# 24845-12/7/2002-00:29 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: MONITOR WRINGER (young man running through Sears)
MESSAGE: I remember the dishwashers, I think even into the early 80s they had that. I think Maytag still has a display like that.
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Post# 24846-12/7/2002-00:34 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com
MESSAGE: I agree.
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Post# 24847-12/7/2002-00:39 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com (Tempest in a teapot?)
MESSAGE: maybe classic should be anything that isn't made anymore. Like Ge filter Flo that was changed I think in 1993. Or whirlpool/kenmore belt drive washers.
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Post# 24848-12/7/2002-00:43 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com (Tempest in a teapot?)
MESSAGE: Remember, as Jetcone pointed out at the 2001 Minnie convention, our predecessors here collected wringer washers. Many in this group started the "automatic" collection phasse. The youhnger people here will be restoring the washers from the 70s & 80s.
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Post# 24849-12/7/2002-00:44 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com (Tempest in a teapot?)
MESSAGE: Remember, as Jetcone pointed out at the 2001 Minnie convention, our predecessors here collected wringer washers. Many in this group started the "automatic" collection phasse. The youhnger people here will be restoring the washers from the 70s & 80s.
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Post# 24850-12/7/2002-01:06 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: MONITOR VIDEO (FOR YOUR VIDEO MONITOR)
MESSAGE: wow a square tub. Nice video. I wish i could do that. Is there an agitator in there or does that rely on a pump to move the water and clothes?
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Post# 24851-12/7/2002-01:11 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com (Tempest in a teapot?)
MESSAGE: And some of will be restoring Neptunes, HE3t's, and Frigmores in the 2010's ;-)
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Post# 24852-12/7/2002-01:44 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: FINAL FOTOS OF THE MONITOR
MESSAGE: Cool videos with cool music too. What a great job you did restoring this one. Once in a while doing manual laundry is fun, isn't it. Ofcourse not too often.
BTW, thank you for the nails tip, now where is that Oxyclean Jon Jetcone sent me....
Louis
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Post# 24853-12/7/2002-03:09 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: POWERHOUSE - RAYMOND SCOTT (Spike Jones question Bob)
MESSAGE: Sorry for going off topic.
There's a Spike Jones song that I'm looking for. It's all instrumental so I can't sing any lyrics.
It sounds like a ragtime song with a rhythm banjo and there's a trombone with a wah mute that goes something like "Doo-wah Doo-wah". It wasn't on my cassette but I've heard it on Dr. Demento a few times before. There's also a solo with the cowbell xylophone somewhere. If you know what I'm talking about can you share it to me on Kazaa? Also the Raymond Scott stuff?
Thanks.
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Post# 24854-12/7/2002-03:13 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: RINSE YOUR MONITOR (Hilarious!)
MESSAGE: Oh I need to DL that song because I have an idea for a washer video.
Mechanical music. I love it. It's like Paul McCartney's "Silly Love Songs" with the pile driver going with the beat. That's creativity!
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Post# 24855-12/7/2002-03:18 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: MONITOR WRINGER (am I a little people?)
MESSAGE: That's why I like belt drive Kenmores. They don't stop! Well, they do but they're easily fixed and last a long time. Most of the machines on the floor of the museum were Kenmore/Whirlpool and most of them worked in they're unrestored shape.
The direct drive Kenmores also last a long time, mainly because there's nothing to them. A motor, pump, and transmission all right there in one easy to take apart mechanism. I was amazed when I first took my old Whirlpool apart (when I finally figured it out).
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Post# 24856-12/7/2002-03:19 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: TCOX where are you?!
MESSAGE: I'm sure Todd will keep those babies cool and dry inside the house. I am concerned about the Rapidry as that's out in the shed (I think). There's always room at my air conditioned trailer for that Rapidry ;-)
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Post# 24857-12/7/2002-03:21 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com (Tempest in a teapot?)
MESSAGE: I'm keeping my Frigmore so I can say "I bought it new" 20 years from now.
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Post# 24858-12/7/2002-03:25 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: POD - Whirlpool Foot Washer
MESSAGE: This is the infamous Whirlpool that my aunt had where I stuck my foot in. Of course, my cousin Dana ratted on me and I wasn't allowed to watch the washer anymore that day.
Jason: "But Aunt Lou, I can't watch the agitator"
Aunt Lou: "NO SIR! WE DO NOT PUT OUR FEET IN THE WASHING MACHINE"
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Post# 24859-12/7/2002-07:58 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: FINAL FOTOS OF THE MONITOR
MESSAGE: Hi Imperialbob,
that's a snazzy little washer.
That stainless steel pulsator/aerator/impeller... I have only seen one washer with that before, it was a very early Hoover single tub. Most Hoovers I have seen had a bakelite impeller. (including the Keymatic)
So was the Hoover or the Monitor first with that style of washer, with the impeller in the side of the wash tub?
Chris
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Post# 24860-12/7/2002-16:49 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: I guess I'm the only one home.
MESSAGE: I should be at my friend's house playing my drums but I'm still stuck at home getting over this nasty cold.
At least, this morning, I had Koffee and Kenmores. Nothing like that first sip of coffee while watching the clothes tumble.
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Post# 24861-12/7/2002-17:52 ||| devildaddy (Troy NY)
SUBJECT: HE3t reliability
MESSAGE: Been a long time since I've looked at the board here. A friend is seriously considering purchasing an HE3t laundry pair as they're stackable and would perfectly fit his laundry room. Last time I knew, reliability of the washer was suspect. Can anyone give me an idea of the current reliability of these machines?
---Charlie
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Post# 24862-12/7/2002-21:00 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com (Tempest in a teapot?)
MESSAGE: In that case, don't forget to give the outside of the cabinet a thorough detailing on a regular basis: automotive style cleaner, then polish, followed by wax. You can omit the cleaner if the surface is already in good shape. I like Meguiar's #7 polish followed by #26 yellow wax. This will feed the paint and make it silky smooth.
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Post# 24863-12/7/2002-21:01 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com (Tempest in a teapot?)
MESSAGE: Oh no, then WCI would be a classic (not made anymore, Electrolux is deep-sixing the WCI nameplate). Hehehehe...
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Post# 24864-12/7/2002-23:33 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: HE3t reliability
MESSAGE: Hi, its nice to see you! The link below will take you to the THS Appliance Forum, where the HE3/Duet machines have been under discussion for some time. Maybe there will be some good or interesting information there! They allow 100 posts per thread, and they appear to be up to part 38! I went back a few and the beginning of each thread seems to have a link at the beginning to the thread previous, though some may have scrolled off. Good luck!
LINK: http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/appl/msg1207024019260.html?28
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Post# 24865-12/8/2002-00:45 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com (Tempest in a teapot?)
MESSAGE: Right on Jason!!!!!
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Post# 24866-12/8/2002-00:52 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: HE3t reliability
MESSAGE: Charlie, per Scott's reply and the link. You can also do a goggle search on the same topic and resssurrect some of hte older threads taht have dropped off. I think reliability has improved somewhat, but it's still largely boils down to Sears having proper delivery and installation, which is a crap shoot at best. Maybe you & Mike can tackle that job, as meticulous is Mike is. And yes, it's very very good to hear from you. Keep us posted as to your friend's decision. A few members here have them. They got the optional extended warranty. Also, ask Mike to reply to my emails if/when he can. I know he's been busy, but I miss keepin up with him. Also look forward to the day when I can meet both of y'all. Thanks. Bob
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Post# 24867-12/8/2002-12:16 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: What makes a classic?
MESSAGE: When considering a "classic", do we look for the styling, the mechanics or a combination of both?
For me, it's more the styling. That said, I'd cut off in the late 70's, after which the looks of the machines got so homongenized. There may be a classic WP/KM dd machine some day, but if you have one, you pretty much "have them all" since the exterior remained the same throughout the models for many years. Kinda like a Maytag -- they didn't change the styling for years and years, nor did they change their mechanics. So if you have one of these machines, you don't really need another (my apologies to Mr. Mark Lightedcontrols). On the other hand, when you had manufactures/marketers like Kenmore who made every model look different, while maybe the mechanics were the same, having all those different looks and agitators is quite another story. Or Frigidaire, who changed their look every year (until about 1966) would be another collectable for their visual effect. Yeah, 20 years from now maybe a Frigemore might be classic, but it won't have near the appeal as pre-homongenized, pre-cost cutting, earlier machines.
As always, JMHO...
-ph
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Post# 24868-12/8/2002-18:50 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: kenmore/whirlpool dryer
MESSAGE: Does anyone know when they started making Whirlpool and Kenmore dryers with the in the super-capacity?
Now there is a dryer that, someone correct if wrong, is still made basicly the same as it was starting in the 60s sometime.
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Post# 24869-12/8/2002-20:10 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: kenmore/whirlpool dryer
MESSAGE: '66-67 is when they went from the perforated bulkhead design to the solid design, which was also the same time they made the super capacity.
Then there was the really big Kenmore dryer which was made in the early 70's.
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Post# 24870-12/8/2002-21:21 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: kenmore/whirlpool dryer
MESSAGE: I saw one of those! It had a matching control panel to a Kenmore 700 washer. That's a really huge dryer. I would love to get one of those.
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Post# 24871-12/9/2002-04:36 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: What makes a classic?
MESSAGE: Well that is very true styling flair is not what it used to be but what got us into washers in the first place?
For me it was the exxcitement of watching clothes moving through the water, when your 4 years old you dont care what the machine looks like compared to other models or the mechanics but you remember the machine you grew up with.
And as each new generation comes along the machines htey are fond of are going to be different. For me when ChesterMike found that Simpson washer in the UK so far away from its home that was exciting for me because those were the washers that I grew up with and IMHO I think they were quite pleasantly styled as well as exciting to watch.
And while the vintage machines like in Roberts basement or Ganskys garage are truly beautiful machines lets be honest that there arent that many more to be found out there, which makes them all the more valuable.
BUT as long as washing machines are manufactured there is going to be someone out htere fascinated by these marvels of technology no matter how pedestrian we may find them and they are going to be special to someone. Its not a classic if no one is interested.
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Post# 24872-12/9/2002-04:53 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com (Just what really are the goal post and what field should we be playing in?)
MESSAGE: Hello again. i get so confused here.
I was somewhat hestiant to join this club at first having very little knowledge of truly vintage (as opposed to classic see my other post) washing machines but I am so glad I have joined because i have learned so much. I also thought that being with people who like me have grown up thinking they were the only one who liked washing machines that my stories and experiences with washing machines would be understood and apprieciated regardless of hte age of machine or whether or not you were farmiliar with the manufacterers or the models.
SO why are we constantly squabling over whether we are talking about a new machine or not. Notafixer could of asked his question on THS but he probably posted here beacuse, like me, he values the opinions and experience of the members here more than that on THS.
While the sandbox is a good idea, i cant help but feel disappointed when I have to post about a new appliances that has captured my interest there when I regard you more as friends than the aquaintances over in that home site. I would imagine that the members here would be more excited. If I wanted to know what model machine I should by yes that is better handled in THS but if I wanted to mention a new feature or styling then here is is where I would expect to find an appriecative audience.
I cant help but get the feeling that some feel that they are the true appliance enthusiasts while the rest of us are jsut kicking around in the sandbox.
Oh and I also remember that a while ago we had a number of posts regarding a cat of all things yet we are so quick to be banished to the sandbox when asking a legitamite appliance question.
We should count ourselves lucky that the few problems we have had with trolls have been handled rather quickly so do we really need to be persecuting our own kind?
Sorry this is such a long essay.
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Post# 24873-12/9/2002-05:35 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com (Just what really are the goal post and what field should we be playing in?)
MESSAGE: Well, on that note, I have to wonder if that is part of the reason that so many of the original members no longer post here or participate in any way. I don't know what made me scroll through the profiles the other day, but I was struck by the number of people who were so active last year but are nowhere to be found this year. And if I recall correctly, there were many more spirited and interesting discussions then. And sometimes they weren't centered on only "vintage" appliances. We sometimes discussed more recent machines, detergent developments and other matters. But nothing was "beat to death" and we always successfully returned (without having to be severely policed) to the core topic. Of course there was that one big blow up last winter over some ridiculous comments made and I think that affected things. While it supposedly "blew over", it was never really dealt with or resolved and there was a significant rift caused. And after that the focus shifted toward policing the topics and quite frankly things became less spontaneous and less fun.
Also, I think individual alliances have been formed within the remaining group and there is less of a group or teamwork feeling. It seems that there are small subgroups of people who share information, appliance leads etc... with each other because they are now friends so things have become more exclusive in what was once a very inclusive group.
With all that, do I have any answers? No, I do not. Perhaps this is all part of an evolutionary process and is unavoidable. But I do miss the camrederie and information sharing that was once enjoyed. As always this is just my opinion and is not presented as objective fact.
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Post# 24874-12/9/2002-06:27 ||| hotpoint (pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: 1957 hotpoint double walloven
MESSAGE: I am looking for an owners manual and a "roast right" thermometer for a 1957 Hotpoint double walloven.
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Post# 24875-12/9/2002-09:10 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Appliance Farm video
MESSAGE: I was watching the appliances farm video and at the very end you guys were talking about a Norgeilator? What is that?
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Post# 24876-12/9/2002-09:44 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: individual alliances/MEAN PEOPLE/LAUGHING AT LIFE
MESSAGE: Not only are there too many INDIVIDUAL ALLIANCES, but there are entirely too many MEAN PEOPLE , who are just plain nasty, and never appologize or have anything helpful or interesting to say....I know I can sometimes appear to be mean, but at least I try to appologize and have something FUN to say every once in a while..
I've been totally BANNED IN BOSTON from this group. Trust me, I'm not here because I love people...it's because I love appliances. Having an appliance you LOVE removed from your collection by a mean person who never speaks to you again, is like haveing a child abducted that you never get to see (except in a quick photo) . This was one of the WORST experiences in my collecting history, when this happened to me, last year, as a result of this site. However, I'll get over it, and will continue to post about my old machines as interesting stories develop.
Also, if I can be of any assistance to any of you just by sharing knowledge,, I'll be glad to do that too.
We gotta just take the good with the bad, folks. Nobody, no site, and no club, is perfect.
Lets focus on what's good about our club and just let the rest exist in silence.
For those of you in possession of the souvenir disc I produced for folks at the convention, please open the music section of the disc, look under RUTH ETTING and play LAUGHING AT LIFE, as a theme for this post. Ask yourself, how can Bob Wirth be such a bad guy, and still love all this old Ruth Etting music? For those who don't have 'the disc', click on the link below. Made this transfer myself on my 1962 Thorens turnbable (td124), here in my Imperial Laundry Studio.. from an original 1930 Columbia Viva-tonal 78...in so so shape.
LAUGHING AT LIFE.
BOB
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/LIFE.rm
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Post# 24877-12/9/2002-10:48 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: individual alliances/MEAN PEOPLE/LAUGHING AT LIFE
MESSAGE: Bob! Love the Ruth Etting! Nothing like a 78 played on a tube record player!
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Post# 24878-12/9/2002-11:02 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: individual alliances/MEAN PEOPLE/LAUGHING AT LIFE (LAUGHING AT LIFE)
MESSAGE: Thanks, Mark. I knew I could count on you, not only to appreciate the song, but to SAY SO.
Start now, and Cheer UP...the skys will clear up....
You'll lose all your blues...
Laughing at Life...
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Post# 24879-12/9/2002-11:14 ||| BsmntFullOSuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: What makes a classic?
MESSAGE: My test for "What makes a classic":
If a machine needs repairs in excess of it's value do you:
a) Disassemble, repair to original or better-than-original operation, clean all internal and external parts, lovingly retouch any chipped paint, polish or rechrome all the chrome parts. Or try and find a good home for the machine where it will be taken care of.
b) Drag it out to the curb, where it will be picked up and crushed for scrap metal. Or take the machine to the woods and shoot it full of holes as shown on http://www.singsingsing.com/has.html
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Post# 24880-12/9/2002-11:28 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: individual alliances/MEAN PEOPLE/LAUGHING AT LIFE
MESSAGE: Bob,
"don't mind the rain drops, wait till the rain stops, there you'll find the sun laughing at life"
Thanks!, I got a lift out of that today!
It been a very dark month for me personally, glad to see my mood can be lifted.
-Alex
(laughing at life here in Fort Lauderdale)
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Post# 24881-12/9/2002-11:43 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: individual alliances/MEAN PEOPLE/LAUGHING AT LIFE (LIFTING SPIRITS)
MESSAGE: Excellent, Alex.
So glad you were able to achieve the desired effect, by playing the Ruth Etting,and having it lift your spirits...She'd be so pleased....as am I.
Your (sometimes difficult) Pal in the laundry room,
BOB
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Post# 24882-12/9/2002-12:03 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: 1952 Kenmore T.V. sighting
MESSAGE: I was watching an old episode of "The F.B.I." because an actor-friend of mine, David Macklin, was in it and there is a scene where David is in his mom's basement and there, in full view, was a 1952 Kenmore washer. The episode was filmed in 1966 so this machine already had some years on it. I was hoping the acress playing his Mom would walk over to it and do a load but no such luck.
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Post# 24883-12/9/2002-12:49 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: WHAT IS THE YEAR OF THE POD
MESSAGE: I'm really not the GE expert...but I'm betting today's POD is a '67.
Can anyone here let me know for sure what year it is?
Sure is a beauty of a machine...Isn't that the one with the variable speed electronically controlled clutch (that never worked right)? Also, notice how 'time line' like the timer display appears.....Pretty neat. Is anyone in our club actually 'running' this machine in their collection, today?
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Post# 24884-12/9/2002-13:55 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: WHAT IS THE YEAR OF THE POD
MESSAGE: Bob, the very first time I saw an ad for a machine of this design, it was from a 1964 magazine. For whatever reason, this control panel style was very short-lived, though that doesn't necessarily mean it did not exist in 1967 on a certain model or models. I know I have seen ads dated 1966 which already depict the familiar style with the rocker switches (pushbuttons on the dryers) banked at the left, that lasted into the 1980s in several modified forms. I am not sure if the pictured machine had an electromagnetic clutch, but I always thought it was a neat design. I've only ever seen one in person in John's warehouse, but it was not connected.
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Post# 24885-12/9/2002-13:58 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: WHAT IS THE YEAR OF THE POD
MESSAGE: Looking again, this may be a 1965 model. I see it is a V-14, whereas I know the 1964 ad I saw it said V-12.
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Post# 24886-12/9/2002-14:59 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: WHAT IS THE YEAR OF THE POD
MESSAGE: Alas, I passed one up in my early days in the club! But there is a used appliance store owner in Decatur that has a matching set in coppertone.
-ph
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Post# 24887-12/9/2002-15:08 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: WHAT IS THE YEAR OF THE POD
MESSAGE: ...which was the color I first saw it in an ad. Coppertone seems to suit this particular set very well.
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Post# 24888-12/9/2002-15:09 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: WHAT IS THE YEAR OF THE POD
MESSAGE: What I don't understand in today's POD, it that white thing her laundry basket or the V14 wash tub?
-Alex
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Post# 24889-12/9/2002-15:11 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: WHAT IS THE YEAR OF THE POD
MESSAGE: That is the mini-basket, which is outside the washer in that picture. I kind of like they way they did this particular ad, with the reflection in front of the washer.
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Post# 24890-12/9/2002-15:11 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: Bob's Bouncy Music
MESSAGE: Bob,
I had never heard Ruth before although I'm a fan of music of the period. What a great song! I hope I managed to save it. Absolutely Tre Fab! Maybe, you could be persuaded to list some other choices in the sand box so as to not upset anyone. Thanks again,
Tom
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Post# 24891-12/9/2002-15:51 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: WHAT IS THE YEAR OF THE POD
MESSAGE: PH, Are you going to grab this set??? What beautiful machines! I've never actually seen one of these and don't know how I missed it at the convention! Mark
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Post# 24892-12/9/2002-16:36 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: GE FILTERFLO POD
MESSAGE: I had that exact washer, and it dates from the mid 60's. It was actually a late 64 model, and was carried over to late 1966. Even though GE marketed it as a 4 SPEED machine, it actually had the same two speed clutch as the other washers. GE did not come out with the variable clutch until about 1967-68. They did make a THREE speed clutch also on a few machines, at about the same time period: 1968 or so. GE never made a 4 SPEED clutch. The 4 SPEEDS refers to the combination of speeds the washer could be programmed for: fast wash/fast spin; fast wash/slow spin; slow wash/slow spin; slow wash/fast spin.
The buttons pre- selected the water temp and speed of wash/rinse/spin cycle, and the RED dots corresponded to the cycle button the operator selected, so you knew where to turn the dial to. All in all it was/is a fabulous design, one of my personal GE favorites! JIMMY
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Post# 24893-12/9/2002-17:04 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Bob's Bouncy Music
MESSAGE: Bob's CD get's played over and over, I love the music and have also become addicted to "Radio Dismuke" on live365.com which plays period music all the time. If I were more ambitious with my free time, I would pipe the music down to the laundry rooms to enjoy while washing in my vintage machines!
Thanks again for the CD Bob, love it!!
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Post# 24894-12/9/2002-17:07 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GE FILTERFLO POD
MESSAGE: Thanks for the info Jimmy - I love this washer and would be thrilled to find a set of these someday. (not that I have room for another set!)
Some neighbors of ours had the next model down from this one - lighted panel, fully featured, mini-basket - which I never saw being used and of course, those wonderful GE sounds... Makes me want a GE washer for the collection even more!
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Post# 24895-12/9/2002-17:21 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: Who makes it???
MESSAGE: I like to know if any of you guys have Directv?
On the Food Network there is an somewhat up to date art deco kitchen with classic appliances in use, could you tell me what type of fridge and stove that is being used on the *30 Minuet meal* show.
Thanks....
Cleanteam
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Post# 24896-12/9/2002-17:25 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Who makes it???
MESSAGE: If I think of it I will try and catch it, and see. I watch programs on that channel sometimes. I checked the website but there are no pictures of the set.
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Post# 24897-12/9/2002-17:35 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Appliance Farm video
MESSAGE: Hi Jamie- I think what Jon Charles was talking about in the video was a Kelvinator washer that was made by Norge with the burp-up filter. Norge made machines for Kelvinator briefly in the late 60's after American Motors sold the Kelvinator brand. Norge-Kelvinators were short lived, then WCI/Franklin machines were sold as Kelvinator from then on. We saw one of these Norge machines on the farm this year and I posted a picture of it. You can barely make out the Kelvinator name on the panel, but the Norge design is very apparent inside.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/2002+Aberdeen+Appliance+Burial+Ground&.src=ph&.dnm=Dsc00015.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/2002%2bAberdeen%2bAppliance%2bBurial%2bGround%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 24898-12/9/2002-17:36 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Who makes it??? (30 Minutes Appliances)
MESSAGE: Isn't that fridge and stove cool? I don't know for sure, but I'm willing to be that the fridge is produced by the Northstar Division of Elmira Stove Works. They make really cool reproductions. Click on the Northstar logo on their home page. For a mere $2,800 plus options for things like an ice maker you can order one in Robins Egg Blue. If lived in a house, instead of an apartment, I'd seriously consider getting one.
http://www.elmirastoveworks.com/
LINK: http://www.elmirastoveworks.com/
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Post# 24899-12/9/2002-17:44 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Who makes it??? (Here's a better link)
MESSAGE: Here a direct link to the Northstar Division's home page.
LINK: http://67.69.15.106/1950.html
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Post# 24900-12/9/2002-18:01 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Who makes it??? (Here's a better link)
MESSAGE: I have seen those before and think they are so cool. Definitely something I would consider. People spend $5,000 on a SubZero, so no reason why we can't, on something we like! :)
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Post# 24901-12/9/2002-19:24 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Norge washer for sale, white
MESSAGE: Have fun!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2080125972&category=20714
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Post# 24902-12/9/2002-19:25 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: 1/18 Dryer for sale, poppy
MESSAGE: Have Fun!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2080128376&category=20714
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Post# 24903-12/9/2002-20:13 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: 1/18 Dryer for sale, poppy
MESSAGE: Careful, sport. Look at that door. Look familiar??? That gives the machine away for what it really is - - a WCI Frigidaire!
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Post# 24904-12/9/2002-20:14 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: 1/18 Dryer for sale, poppy
MESSAGE: Also, the description lists the color as almond. So much for poppy!!
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Post# 24905-12/9/2002-20:21 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: 1/18 Dryer for sale, poppy (Dryer for sale)
MESSAGE: Sorry Jamie - this is no 1/18 poppy - it even said it was manufactured in 92 - Anything made after 1980 was no GM Frigidaire. My Aunt had a real poppy 1974 1/18 set - what a beautiful pair.
Peter
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Post# 24906-12/9/2002-20:24 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: 1/18 Dryer for sale, poppy
MESSAGE: Oops! Sorry, I need to read more carefully!
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Post# 24907-12/9/2002-20:25 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: 1/18 Dryer for sale, poppy
MESSAGE: Oops! Sorry, I need to read more carefully!
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Post# 24908-12/9/2002-20:25 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: 1/18 Dryer for sale, poppy (Dryer for sale)
MESSAGE: Oops! Sorry, I need to read more carefully!
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Post# 24909-12/9/2002-20:39 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1/18 Dryer for sale, poppy (Dryer for sale)
MESSAGE: Well Jamie, you can only imagine the first time we walked into a store in the 80s seeing a Frigidaire washer with that style control panel, and expecting to open the lid and find the customary jetcone....STILL gives me the shivers...
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Post# 24910-12/9/2002-21:07 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: 1/18 Dryer for sale, poppy (Dryer for sale)
MESSAGE: I still remember the horrible January, 1981 day I went to a appliance store - and saw those Dreadful creatures. And shortly before that it was said changes and improvments were to be made to the Frigidaire designs. (Some improvements)
I also remember sales people telling me they were supposed to be telling customers they washed just as well as the 1/18. What a scam!!
I still wonder to this day what it could have been like now if things had been different.
Peter
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Post# 24911-12/9/2002-21:59 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: WHAT IS THE YEAR OF THE POD
MESSAGE: Duh, Mark, I missed it too. Can't even remotely place it.
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Post# 24912-12/10/2002-00:11 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: 1/18 Dryer for sale, poppy (Dryer for sale)
MESSAGE: for all you loyal 1-18 lovers I wish I had the only frigidaire washer (and 2 matching dryers)I have ever come accross, for you. It was in 1993, I am estimating the machines were 1972-73 with the upswept backsplash. (i know they made them in the 60s only the timer was in the upswept part instead on the actual control panel back then) Got them as part of an allotment. All white. I remember connecting the water level wires together to get it to agitate or whatever its called and it worked. but I was liquidating and i think they went, well I can't even say it. =o( Wish I had them for you guys, I know several of you would give them a good home. And I swear if I come accross any like that again I will let you all know. About a 2 weeks ago I came accross a dryer similiar to the one in the Ebay ad. But from the sounds of it. Those just don't fit the bill.
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Post# 24913-12/10/2002-00:53 ||| geoff (Connecticut)
SUBJECT: Super Roto Swirl
MESSAGE: I was going to post this a while ago when we were having the password trouble, but never got around to it. For those of you that have never roamed about RepairClinic.com. They do carry certain classic parts. So for those of you pining away for a Super Roto Swirl. By all means, get out your credit cards!!! Although I do think that $60.90 is a little much, but that's just my opinion. After all you are getting a brand new Roto Swirl. Enjoy!!!!
Regards,
Geoff
LINK: http://www.repairclinic.com/0081.asp?RccPartID=2583
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Post# 24914-12/10/2002-00:56 ||| geoff (Connecticut)
SUBJECT: And yet another find!!
MESSAGE: All for just $58.75, you TOO can own an 18-pound Super Surgilator!!!
You know who
LINK: http://www.repairclinic.com/0081.asp?RccPartID=2813
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Post# 24915-12/10/2002-04:49 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: 1/18 Dryer for sale, poppy (Dryer for sale)
MESSAGE: So true...... I still remember the shiver and the rage I felt when I realized we had been duped!!!
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Post# 24916-12/10/2002-07:03 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Super Roto Swirl (WOW)
MESSAGE: I didn't think they'd still make those. I wonder if you can get a RS in gold just like the old days.
I guess it's expensive like getting parts for an antique car.
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Post# 24917-12/10/2002-11:53 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: WHAT IS THE YEAR OF THE POD
MESSAGE: The white washer I let go, and I still kick myself about. The coppertone set is not for sale. The store owner has moved them into some mysterious warehouse somewhere. :(
-ph
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Post# 24918-12/10/2002-11:54 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Dreaming of a 1-18 weekend
MESSAGE: I'm going crazy here. The 1-18 set is on its way to Todd and I can't wait to see them. I'm savin' up laundry, hopefully we'll have a wash-in soon.
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Post# 24919-12/10/2002-15:33 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: WHAT IS THE YEAR OF THE POD
MESSAGE: Peter, Perhaps if you talked to him and stressed the importance of those machines and how you could give them a great loving home, he could be convinced to part with them. Remind him that old appliances that just sit around tend to rust, corrode, and fall appart! Or..........I could send Vito to break his bones until he reveals where they are!!! LOL!!! Mark
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Post# 24920-12/10/2002-16:10 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: ATTN: ImperialBob
MESSAGE: Bob,
Is your email address correct in your profile? Email I send is getting kicked back.
-ph
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Post# 24921-12/10/2002-17:56 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: ATTN: ImperialBob (CORRECT EMAIL ADDRESS)
MESSAGE: Hiya, Peter. Yes, my email is correctly listed in the profiles...just now I clicked on it and sent myself a test message....and it worked....
that makes me wonder what could be wrong?
It's robert.wirth2@verizon.net
Hope you are able to get it to work...I have broadband service, and I never let my mailbox get full, so I can't imagine why it won't work....
GOOD LUCK AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS
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Post# 24922-12/10/2002-18:43 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: WHAT IS THE YEAR OF THE POD
MESSAGE: Could you just send Vito???
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Post# 24923-12/10/2002-19:58 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT: RE: individual alliances/MEAN PEOPLE/LAUGHING AT LIFE
MESSAGE: Loved the recording! I sure that she influenced a couple of my Faves: Sarah Vaughn & Ella Fitzgerald. I was away for the weekend ,so just caught up with the posts. Yeah, the larger a group becomes, the more interests diverge. People DO (and will always!) form smaller social groups. It is not always meant as a slight- just folks with similar interests(and backgrounds, sometimes attractiveness, socioeconomic status, etc.)tend to congregate. Most people tend to be most comfortable with folks they PERCIEVE to be similar to them. That said, there is no need for rudeness here. Perception plays a HUGE part in all of this; what one may find humorous, another will find offensive. My experience is that if people apologized more frequently, we'd have a more healthy society. Okay, back to vintage machines!
Duane
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Post# 24924-12/10/2002-20:34 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Westinghouse dryer
MESSAGE: Have fun! It is WESTINGHOUSE, right? Not the newer cheap kind?
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2080467729&category=20714
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Post# 24925-12/10/2002-21:00 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse dryer (OLDER WESTINGHOUSE)
MESSAGE: Yup. That's a very cool vintage gas dryer alright....someone here needs that....The D shaped door opening and the two really large diameter thermostats visible to the right of the opening let you know right away, this is vintage.
I'm guessing '67 to 70 or so....anyone know for sure?
John Lefever would know...
ANYWAY. NEAT MACHINE! GOOD EYE, JAMIE!
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Post# 24926-12/10/2002-21:29 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse dryer (OLDER WESTINGHOUSE)
MESSAGE: Don't make me blush! :-) But, thanks for the compliment. :-)
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Post# 24927-12/10/2002-22:33 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse dryer (OLDER WESTINGHOUSE)
MESSAGE: Kewl! Interesting arrangement with the thermostats in the air-flow at the door opening.
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Post# 24928-12/11/2002-08:43 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: THAT OLDER WESTINGHOUSE GAS DRYER
MESSAGE: That machine is SO similar to the POD of a few days ago, which was the '64 Westinghouse stack pair, I'm thinking it could be a '65 to '69 or so....
I'll call John Lefever up and ask him what he thinks....
leaning more towards '65 to 69 now than my original estimate of 67 to 70, but it's in there somewhere....
Anyone gonna bid on it?
BOB
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Post# 24929-12/11/2002-09:48 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: THAT OLDER WESTINGHOUSE GAS DRYER (ASKED JOHN LEFEVER)
MESSAGE: Yup. He's thinking, like I, '67, which was the first year for Avocado (for westinghouse), and likely no later than '70.
So there you go. Anyone with a better guess, or more accurate information....Please step forward and reveal yourself.
John ALSO mentioned that some gas dryers from that period used STANDING PILOTS, which are far less desireable than electric ignition, because the standing pilot produces an acidic by product which totally rusts out the dryer, from the inside out!
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Post# 24930-12/11/2002-18:08 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Hamilton Question
MESSAGE: Did Hamilton ever make a washer to make this a set?
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/unimatic1140/vwp?.dir=/Hamilton&.src=ph&.dnm=Hamilton+Dryer.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/unimatic1140/lst%3f%26.dir=/Hamilton%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 24931-12/11/2002-20:41 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Hey Robert...
MESSAGE: Do you think I could have a picture up close of the Control Tower a top your awesome Unimatic? That is my most wanted machine!
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Post# 24932-12/11/2002-20:41 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Where is everybody?
MESSAGE: I feel so alone. :-(
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Post# 24933-12/11/2002-21:06 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Where is everybody? ((I'm here Jamie!) :-))
MESSAGE: It has been pretty quiet around here the last day or so! Hope you are having a good week!
I too am excited to hear the answer to your Hamilton question. I am not sure if that particular dryer went with a washer or if they were made before they started offering washers. I think many people bought the dryer in that picture to go with wringer washers, then kept it when they switched to automatic.
Usually though, when I have seen ads for Hamilton washer and dryer pairs, both the washer and dryer have rear controls, unlike this one, which has front controls. I'm not sure when they switched, or when they last made the front control ones. There are a couple of different versions of the front control ones, but they are not too different from one another.
Frigidaire, on the other hand, offered a dryer very similar to this, made by Hamilton, to go with the earliest of their automatic washers. In about 1950 or 1951, around the same time the W0-65 washer came out, they started to make their own dryers.
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Post# 24934-12/11/2002-21:21 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Where is everybody?
MESSAGE: Jamie, I feel the same sway. It's been very quiet here the last few days. But I'm here. Bob
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Post# 24935-12/11/2002-21:37 ||| jimmyb (Phoenix, AZ)
SUBJECT: RE: Where is everybody? (Hello)
MESSAGE: Greetings from Phoenix, just found this site and became a member!
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Post# 24936-12/11/2002-21:38 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Where is everybody? (Hello)
MESSAGE: Hello Jimmy, welcome! My parents live in AZ in the winter, and I visit there usually 2-3 times per year. Are there any special brands or types of appliances you enjoy?
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Post# 24937-12/11/2002-21:47 ||| jimmyb (Phoenix, AZ)
SUBJECT: RE: Where is everybody? (Hello)
MESSAGE: Would have to say that I like/enjoy Maytags from the 60's, actually like any washers/dryers from that time with lighted controls.
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Post# 24938-12/11/2002-22:00 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Where is everybody? (Hello)
MESSAGE: You would love Gansky's 1967 all pushbutton Maytag set! :)
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Post# 24939-12/11/2002-22:08 ||| jimmyb (Phoenix, AZ)
SUBJECT: RE: Where is everybody? (Hello)
MESSAGE: Just went to his profile and saw the pictures. I would have to say that is my dream set.
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Post# 24940-12/11/2002-22:14 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Hey Robert... (Here's one)
MESSAGE: Hi Jamie -
A new favorite, and a fine one at that!
I have a picture of a 57 Control Tower panel that Jon Charles sent me to possibly use as a printing guide for my broken lens that I had to "laminate" with plastic to hold it together. These glass panels breaking was a common repair for this model, but I've not found any "new-old-stock" of them so I may have to have some screen printed.
If you click on the picture, you will get the larger than life version...
BTW, did you see there is a 1-18 for sale in Detroit advertised in the classified section now?
Cheers - Greg
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Frigidaire+WI+57&.src=ph&.dnm=conttrol+tower+lens.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Frigidaire%2bWI%2b57%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 24941-12/11/2002-22:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Hamilton Question
MESSAGE: This appears to be a late 40's model dryer and Hamilton didn't have a washer until the early 50's which was sourced from Norge. Frigidaire introduced an electric dryer, made by Hamilton and very similar to this design, in 1947 as a companion piece to their new automatic washer.
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Post# 24942-12/12/2002-08:26 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: TODAY'S POD
MESSAGE: These machines are obviously Hotpoint, but the ad doesn't say so...are we to think , perhaps, these are from PENNY'S?
Interesting that the ad doesn't really say WHAT KIND of machines these are....anyone know for sure?
It is safe to say that today's POD shows one pair of 'golden oldies'.....and here, I'll say it....geez, they're UGLY! Neat ad, but I'm betting these are no ones 'dream machines'. More of a nightmare, really...
Now, Don't anyone get upset...I'm just kiddin' around. I'm sure they're lovely in the eyes of the right beholder..
BOB
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Post# 24943-12/12/2002-08:29 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: READING THE FINE PRINT
MESSAGE: I'm thinking that EATON VIKING is the main clue. I've never heard these words before. Can anyone here enlighten me?
I'll guess today's pair are 1969 Penny's machines....DEFINATELY never saw those before....
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Post# 24944-12/12/2002-08:55 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: READING THE FINE PRINT
MESSAGE: I thought Viking was Canadian???
Chris.
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Post# 24945-12/12/2002-09:05 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: New photos
MESSAGE: Here is a link to photos I took a few weeks ago of a Frigidaire Master washing machine I saw at the recyclers. I couldn't take it home so for posterity I at least took some photos of it. It had the installation date written on a tag on the back, from memory it was in 1965. It had a Pulsamatic transmission, single speed motor, only one control (timer) with water temp (cold or warm only) selected by different starting positions on the timer. The white button on the left of the control panel is the motor overload reset button.
Also for anyone interested, go back to another album, "Hoover Floorcare", to look at a sales brochure for Hoover floorcare products. The last page (P12) has photos of a Hoovermatic twin tub, Hoover Keymatic washer, Hoover iron and other stuff. I found this leaflet inside a box of attachments to suit a Hoover Convertible vacuum cleaner. The attachments look almost unused. I got the lot including the original cardboard box for $5 from a junk shop in Colac.
Chris
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Post# 24946-12/12/2002-09:07 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: New photos (will I ever get it right?)
MESSAGE: Sorry, I dunnit again. Here's the link...
Chris
LINK: http://uk.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gizmo_au63/lst?.dir=/Frigidaire+Master&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//uk.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gizmo_au63/lst%3f%26.dir=/Hoover%2bFloorcare%2bbrochure%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 24947-12/12/2002-09:22 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: READING THE FINE PRINT (GE under the hood)
MESSAGE: I think it is GE under the hood, since there is a mini-basket. Look at the controls: there's the GE timer knob with Hotpoint option selector knobs. This POD has been up before and Eddy confirmed the Canadian roots.
-ph
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Post# 24948-12/12/2002-09:24 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: New photos (Aussie Pulsamatic)
MESSAGE: Holy cow! What a neat machine, with the badge on the front. Funny there is no hot wash setting on a 1965 machine. Could you at least get parts for your Pulsamatic from this washer before it went to the Krusher?
-ph
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Post# 24949-12/12/2002-09:48 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: New photos (Aussie Pulsamatic)
MESSAGE: Unfortunately no. I asked if I could get parts from it, they said no, I would have to take the whole machine. It was only $15 but had rust in the inner washtub, and the rubber pulsator was no better than the one on mine. I would have liked to get the bakelite agitator, but it was not to be.
This was at a pretty prolific recycling centre and I'm hopeful something even better will turn up, such as a higher level model in better condition. We Aussies (at least older ones) seem content to hold on to our older appliances for longer, so although it is a sixties model, I don't think it is THAT rare. I would expect to find others within twelve months for example.
Our local council is soon to have its first EVER kerbside hard garbage pickup. (things move S-L-O-W-L-Y here in the sticks) So with a bit of luck it will be ripe for harvesting. I expect it to happen in the next three months or so.
Didn't US Frigi's have the badge on the front? My mother's late sixties Frigidaire had it (in beige and chrome), and many other washers here had them, including Hoover. I never thought of it as anything special.
Best Wishes
Chris.
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Post# 24950-12/12/2002-09:59 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: New photos (Hoover brochure)
MESSAGE: Hey Chris,
Thank you for the pictures of the Frigidaire. But I love the Hoover brochure too! I have the Automatic Scrubber Polisher. I had to have that one because I remembered it so well from my youth. And I could have had the Keymatic, but that's a whole different story.
Louis
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Post# 24951-12/12/2002-10:01 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: VIKING
MESSAGE: Checked with my neice, who lives in Canada now (her husband is Canadian) and, indeed, Viking is Canadian.
Also learned from her, today, that TOUQUE is the name for a knitted hat (pronounces TEWK), SO, in case you've ever heard the 12 days of Christmas by Bob & Doug MacKenzie....now you know what a touque is! Let's all throw our touques into the Viking and give it a go, shall we, Eh?
BOB
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Post# 24952-12/12/2002-10:41 ||| dalangdon (Seattle, WA)
SUBJECT: RE: TODAY'S POD (color evolution)
MESSAGE: I have to agree with Bob about these machines. Harvest Gold was never a fave with me. My best friends have an entire HG kitchen that they are crazy about, however, so it's all in the eye of the beholder.
I think the whole evolution of color in appliances is interesting. The 50's colors (Sunny Yellow, Turquoiuse, etc) seem so happy and optimimistic. Those gave way to the Harvest Golds and Avacado's of the 60's, which seems a little less playful, to the subdued Almonds of the 80's, and now we have the clinical stainless steel and slate grey.
They're all nice colors, and my thumbnail sketch doesn't do justice to their evolution, but I think it could be an interesting thing to study. What's most ironic is that we had the widest choice of the brightest colors during what is commonly thought of as one of the most uptight decades.
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Post# 24953-12/12/2002-11:37 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: Pentavane or pentaswirl on ebay
MESSAGE: Hello,
I never heard back from cleanteamofny on that kenmore agitator he wanted, so i put it on ebay if anyone wants it =)
Also theres that old radarange nobody claimed. If noone bids on it anyone here can have either item for free just pay for the shipping =)
Thanks,
~Steven
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=20714&item=2081166086&rd=1
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Post# 24954-12/12/2002-12:15 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: VIKING
MESSAGE: That's funny. In Dutch we know the word "toque" which is actually a beret or biretta. So I'll throw mine in as well.
Louis
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Post# 24955-12/12/2002-17:04 ||| SHAWN (Waterford Ct)
SUBJECT: RE: TODAY'S POD
MESSAGE: I was wondering what brand these were myself.
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Post# 24956-12/12/2002-17:11 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: READING THE FINE PRINT
MESSAGE: They are GE. But they are not the ugliest. I have had a couple of JCPenny sets aroung the same time and they were the the ugliest. Not the colors of course but the console looks so bland. To see a GE with with round knobs and not their neat white switches just seemed so inappropriate. And that side swing door attached with 2 standard hardware hinges, well, it was just so simple. Please. The door doesn't even stop anywhere while being opened like a sideswing Kenmore would. you have to open the door all the way flat. Simple. They do lack a certain GE refinement one comes to expect.
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Post# 24957-12/12/2002-17:28 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: New photos (will I ever get it right?( nice album))
MESSAGE: Nice album but I was wondering do your cats launder well.
Ah- would that be gentle cycle.
I have heard there is a new catnip scented Tide to help lure those hard to launder kitties on laundry day.
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Post# 24958-12/12/2002-18:01 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: POD/ ugly pennys
MESSAGE: When I moved into my first apt. I had to have a new w/d. The only credit card I had was at Penny's. I of course, blindly rushed out and bought the ugliest (ok, at the time, I was young and stupid) set of almond (a stupid color, it can't decide if it's white or brown!) units they had. The washer had the double ag. and the dryer had the exhust sensing termination. I had them delivered and the delivery guy went to plug in the dryer and in his terms: "it went to ground". All I know is that he ended up on his butt. The socket was blown off the wall and the circuit breaker was smoking. That unfortunetly, was the most interesting thing that ever happened with the set. I sold them when I moved to New Orleans. They just didn't have any interest.
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Post# 24959-12/12/2002-19:04 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: New photos (Hoover brochure)
MESSAGE: Hi Louis
My mother had a Hoover scrubber polisher too. (the "automatic" one.) And we always had Hoover upright vacs, first a Convertible like the one in the brochure, later a "Starlight", then a "Turbopower Lark". (Later the family changed allegiances, as when I was at Uni I got a part time job selling Electrolux vacs. I wasn't ruthless enough, sold only three in a month including one to my sister, so I gave it up. Mum still has the Electrolux vac that my sister bought.)
In the brochure, I particularly loved the box at the bottom of each page with the technical details of each model (volts, amps, size etc). It has the heading "For The Man Of The House."
On the back page of the leaflet there is one photo of a woman in white lying in bed holding a Hoover appliance, I can't see what it is... is it a hand held fan? is it an electric blanket control? Does it BUZZZZZ? (oh! oh! oh!)
Chris.
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Post# 24960-12/12/2002-19:16 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: the ads for sale post doesn't give you the preview button
MESSAGE: the preview button for the post an ad thing isn't there just wanted to let someone know who to contact to fix it
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Post# 24961-12/12/2002-19:38 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: hoover brouchure
MESSAGE: There's something I'm not understanding...and that is....where is the link for the hoover brochure....I'm not getting it....duh...can someone create the link again...please?
Thanks.
Peas.
BOB
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Post# 24962-12/12/2002-19:42 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: gizmo's link
MESSAGE: link
LINK: http://uk.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gizmo_au63/lst?.dir=/&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//uk.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gizmo_au63/lst%3f%26.dir=/Hoover%2bFloorcare%2bbrochure%26.src=ph%26.view=t&.view=t
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Post# 24963-12/12/2002-21:10 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: hoover brouchure (I have that!)
MESSAGE: I have the hoover cleaner on the right!
LINK: http://uk.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gizmo_au63/vwp?.dir=/Hoover+Floorcare+brochure&.src=ph&.dnm=HFCP8P9.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//uk.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gizmo_au63/lst%3f%26.dir=/Hoover%2bFloorcare%2bbrochure%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 24964-12/12/2002-21:11 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: gizmo's link
MESSAGE: Thanks. Got it, that time.
What cute pussy cats they are...
BOB
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Post# 24965-12/12/2002-21:45 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: POD/ ugly pennys (What an odd ad )
MESSAGE: What an odd ad. I had to read it several times before spotted the words "Eaton VIKING" (the all caps Viking is exactly how it appears in the ad). The words appear at the end of the description of both the washer and dryer. Right above the price and model number. I spotted them on the dryer's description first. Once I spotted them I was able to make out the "Viking" name over the dials to the left of the dryer's console. I couldn't make out the name on the washer. Eaton's was (is?) a Canadian department store chain. Viking is a Canadian appliance brand. I suppose that this particular set of Vikings was made for sale by Eaton's. (Kind of sort of Kenmore, but with the Viking name.)
I agree with the posts that speculated that these were made by Hotpoint. The left hinged washer lid and the smooth rotory control knobs practically give it away. Hotpoints were made by GE, so I suppose that they were made by Hotpoint/GE for Viking. The mini-basket is interesting. I don't ever remember seeing that feature on a Hotpoint. I thought that that mini-baskets were exclusive to GE.
The 18 pound capacity claim for the washer dates this pair from the mid-to-late-seventies/early-eighties if I remember my capacity claim history correctly.
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Post# 24966-12/12/2002-21:47 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: gizmo's link
MESSAGE: Wizard better not get in my washing machine or I'll probably turn it on.
Wizard is THE MEANEST cat I've ever seen. What a psycho! I sure hope this is just because he is a kitten and he'll outgrow it.
Well, I'm just about going crazy waiting to see if tcox got his Frigidaires or not. I'm about to start clawing furniture myself.
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Post# 24967-12/12/2002-22:57 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Where is everybody? (Hello)
MESSAGE: Jimmyb welcome welcome welcome!!!!
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Post# 24968-12/13/2002-06:49 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: POD Norge Scot 12?
MESSAGE: What the heck is that? Is this a solid tub machine? 12lb capacity?
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Post# 24969-12/13/2002-08:12 ||| mulls (Johnson City,Tn)
SUBJECT: POD NORGE
MESSAGE: This machine claims to save an average of about 10 gallons of hot water per load,based on 365 loads per year!Did it have some different kind of washing action allowing it to use less water and detergent?
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Post# 24970-12/13/2002-10:22 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Norge Scot 12?
MESSAGE: Jason (and hopefully others will chime in) but my guess is this was one of the last solid tub standard capacity machines before they came out with the perforated 14s, 15s, and etc. Maybe around 1962-63?
That ad is from Minneapolis, that's what our gas company used to be called. I never realized they carried Norge.
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Post# 24971-12/13/2002-10:56 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD NORGE
MESSAGE: It was a solid tub machine. Only the inner tub filled with water instead the whole thing like the perforated tub machines of today.
GEE
Kinda makes you wonder if with all this Energy Star stuff why don't they go back to solid tubs. That would save LOTS of water.
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Post# 24972-12/13/2002-12:00 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: POD NORGE (MY 2 Cents worth!)
MESSAGE: Hi Boys! I have learned over the past few years that ANY appliance with an energy star rating is a good reason to steer clear of it. KitchenAid now makes dishwashers that don't wash worth a squat...BUT...they have their energy star! The front loaders.......well ......let's not even go there. Three hours to wash a load of towels! Really. Appliance manufacturers need to go back to the old solid tub designs and delete the overflow rinses. With today's detergents, and overflow rinse just isn't necessary. Appliance manufacturers, ARE YOU LISTENING??? Mark
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Post# 24973-12/13/2002-12:16 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: POD NORGE (MY 2 Cents worth!)
MESSAGE: So how is Norge pronounced?
Is it like "George" or "Fiord"?
Nice looking machine though!
-Alex
(Fort Lauderdale, FL)
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Post# 24974-12/13/2002-12:30 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: POD NORGE (MY 2 Cents worth!)
MESSAGE: I guess if we want to see a top-loader after 2007 that is not "Calypso" like, then maybe they need to design an outter tub that is in closer relationship to the inner tub, thus saving water or a solid tub like this Norge.
If history repeats itself, we could see all top loaders adopt the "bouncing washplate" method, when the Whirlpool/Kenmore patent expires, just like what happened with the Dual Action Agitator. A dark day in laundry history in my opinion.
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Post# 24975-12/13/2002-12:48 ||| jimmyb (Phoenix, AZ)
SUBJECT: RE: Where is everybody? (Hello)
MESSAGE: Why thank you! I love the site and look forward to meeting some new people!
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Post# 24976-12/13/2002-12:50 ||| BsmntFullOSuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: TODAY'S POD (color and price evolution)
MESSAGE: Maybe color evolution followed pricing evolution. Top loader washing machine prices havent changed all that much since the 1950s. To keep this price constant with inflation, the cost of building a machine had to have been cut A LOT. Cutting the weight of the machine also cuts shipping, handling, and delivery costs. Maybe color selections, sculptured chrome control panels, stainless tubs, tub lights, all the things that differentiate a classic from a disposable consumer appliance, cost more than what todays buyers will pay extra for.
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Post# 24977-12/13/2002-16:07 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD NORGE (MY 2 Cents worth!)
MESSAGE: Only problem with solid-tubs is the capacity. You could probably get a 14lb load into a solid tub machine but compared to the water guzzlers of today (Maytag Atlantis, etc.) with their huge capacities, it probably wouldn't work. I think it could be done but then the manufacturers would have to get creative and that would be too hard and expensive. Let's make plastic parts that hold lots of water so it can break within the next 5 years. That's what they're thinking.
The Frigemores have a decent 45 minute wash cycle and it's tolerable as that matches a typical cycle in the dryer. All the fancy ones that take 3 hours... BLEH!
Still... I'll take the small capacity and fun-to-watch action of a (belt-drive) Kenmore, Kelvinator or Frigidaire anytime, especially Kelvinator.
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Post# 24978-12/13/2002-16:08 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD NORGE (Rhymes with "
George"
)
MESSAGE: My dad used to pronounce it "Norg" with the 'g' sound instead of the 'j' sound but I figured it was more like "George" than "borg"
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Post# 24979-12/13/2002-16:13 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Norge Scot 12?
MESSAGE: This is a tough call on this washer, hard to tell exactly without more information. All the service lit. I have from Norge is for older, solid tub machines which I don't believe this is. Although this is only an illustration and not a true photograph, the width of the cabinet and the left opening lid would lead me to think it's not a solid tub washer. Also the model number is very close to one tested by Consumer Reports in 1966 which used only 32 gallons of water total versus the top-rated GE at 44 gals which could account for the savings claims. The puzzling part of this is the "Scot 12" wording, does this mean 12 pounds or is it just a marketing title like the "Mark" series of Whirlpool? Norge introduced their 14lb, perforated basket washer in 1964 but still carried the 10 pound, solid tub washer at least until 1965. I can find no mention of a 12lb washer, perhaps someone with more Norge literature can clear all of this up.
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Post# 24980-12/13/2002-16:24 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Norge Scot 12?
MESSAGE: This could have been a marketing ploy for Norge, in that this machine had an infinite water level control unlike the two or three water levels offered by other manufacturers.....like Frigidaire or Kelvinator. This one looks like it was not a solid tub model. Mark
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Post# 24981-12/13/2002-16:46 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Norge Scot 12? (Norge Scot 12? )
MESSAGE: I don't think this POD was a solid tub Norge
In 1964 I think they moved away from the solid tubs
Also the lid opens to the side. The early Norges before 1964 with solid tubs opened to the back.
Peter
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Post# 24982-12/13/2002-17:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD NORGE (MY 2 Cents worth!)
MESSAGE: The Frigidaire Unimatic with overflow wash and rinse uses only 28 gallons of water for a 9lb load - and in only 28 minutes.
So clean, so quickly, so gently - entirely without harmful rubbing!!
See your Frigidaire dealer today!
;-)
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Post# 24983-12/13/2002-19:04 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: EL-CHEAP-O PINK FABRIC SOFTENER
MESSAGE: Since I'm doin' that Frosting Pink thing up real big in my Imperial Laundry Studio at this time, I decided to buy some of that el-cheap-o store brand PINK fabric softener....it's lovely to look at, and goes with my current theme...I'm just wondering what you fellow think about it..if anything..
I must tell you, normally I prefer Downy FREE, as I have experienced sensitivity of the skin, especially when using some of the highly scented Downy, such as tropical bouquet (P.U.)...
My question is...do you think I'll have any skin sensitivity issues using the cheap pink stuff? Also, in you guy's experience, does the cheap pink stuff work O.K. for controlling static and making the clothes feel nice? I remember years ago (nearly 20) using the pink stuff regularly in my '63 Lady Kenmores (once I owned all three Ladies from that year - washer - dryer - and COMBO)...
Anyway...got 5 washers going right now (everyone except Mr. Monitor) and am using the pink stuff for the first time in years...
Anyone else here use the cheap pink fabric softener?
All my machines say HI to everyone here...
PEACE!
BOB
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Post# 24984-12/13/2002-19:34 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: POD NORGE (MY 2 Cents worth!)
MESSAGE: There is a real difference between a 1985 GE with its fixed outer tub with room for alot of tub rotation and a whirlpool/kenmore with its outer tub less than an inch from the inner tub. I never realized that until I had a older GE operating with the entire top up. You could put bricks between the tubs back then.
Ah the good old days though. No matter how poorly designed, how impractical, how inefficient, or ugly each of our machines might be, we all have a special place in our lives for these machines.
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Post# 24985-12/13/2002-19:45 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: TODAY'S POD (color and price evolution)
MESSAGE: Remember cel phones when they came out in the early 80s how big they were and difficult they were to use. Now they truly are disposible. Even dishwashers, now they are just a plastic box with motor you can get at Sears for $125. I'm waiting for refrigerators shipped in flat panels( shelves, sides, doors) --you put together. It would be great though, so easy to move.
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Post# 24986-12/13/2002-20:39 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Norge Scot 12?
MESSAGE: Okay my two cents worth. This is a perforated tub machine. It's very VERY similar timer dial to the one Norge I got running Sat. at the warehouse during the convention. (Remember the timer dial was badly bent on the stem). Rich, Jason, & Scott were there. I got it to spin and found the "suds return" area on the timer and y'all got to see it agitate and the tub brake lock into place for agitate. As for the Scot 12, I believe this was a similarly positioned machine to Maytag's Highlander product, value priced. A marketing endeavor.
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Post# 24987-12/13/2002-20:58 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: KEEP FINGERS CROSSED..
MESSAGE: All is going beautifully, so I'm ready to do the first big white load with oxyclean in the Dialmatic (rubber tub bendix washer) again for the first time since it leaked...hopefully, I won't have bad news...if I could 0nly get my computer over closer to the machine,,,I could get the cam over there....is there such a thing as a USB extension cord?..
PEACE
BOB
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Post# 24988-12/13/2002-22:42 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: SWOOSH!
MESSAGE: SEE- Angel spinning atop Frank Sinatra on the 1956 Califone
HEAR - BENDIX DIALMATIC end of extract cycle sound... extract cycle partially abbreviated for video timing, resulting in more heavily moisture laden clothing than usual..but I was able to lift the entire load off the agitator with a single pull!... ENJOY.
HO HO HO
BOB
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/SWOOSH/INDEX.htm
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Post# 24989-12/13/2002-23:01 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: DID I SAY WHITE?
MESSAGE: That's actually grey workout sweatpants & shirts...not white, , in case you notice in the video, they don't appear white....
HO
BOB
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Post# 24990-12/14/2002-07:29 ||| westie2 (arkansas)
SUBJECT: RE: SWOOSH!
MESSAGE: I haven't heard that sound in almost 40 years since my grandparents moved to town and left the old Bendix on the farm. Grandmother use to wash everything like a wringer and hand wring out each wash load then would rinse and extract. Great memories. She use to let all of us grankids fill the washer with the hose attached to kitchen sink. Glad you got it patched and working.
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Post# 24991-12/14/2002-08:08 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT: RE: SWOOSH!
MESSAGE: Nothing like a little Frank and SWOOSH to ring in the holidays!
Duane
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Post# 24992-12/14/2002-08:26 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: SWOOSH!
MESSAGE: Dear Bob,
Loved it! I think you wasted your talents lo, this many years on appliance repair! Just great. I have not forgotten about your generous email offer, I will get back to you soon. Please continue the good work!
Tom
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Post# 24993-12/14/2002-08:27 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: RE: EL-CHEAP-O PINK FABRIC SOFTENER (pink fabric softener)
MESSAGE: hi bob....years ago, sta puf was the original pink fabric softener...i find the current fabric softeners are thick and leave buildup in softener dispenser in my maytag...i am back to using the store brand pink stuff and it doesnt have a buildup....ross
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Post# 24994-12/14/2002-08:28 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: SWOOSH!
MESSAGE: Very well said.
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Post# 24995-12/14/2002-08:31 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: Overload POD
MESSAGE: Today's POD was interesting. The washer seems to have an overload reset button. A lot of the vintage units had one. Why? I understand it was a motor protection, but todays models don't seem to need one. Was the problem, the fact that the little lady crammed too much in the unit, or just a factor of state of engineering of the period?
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Post# 24996-12/14/2002-08:32 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: Overload POD
MESSAGE: Today's POD was interesting. The washer seems to have an overload reset button. A lot of the vintage units had one. Why? I understand it was a motor protection, but todays models don't seem to need one. Was the problem, the fact that the little lady crammed too much in the unit, or just a factor of state of engineering of the period?
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Post# 24997-12/14/2002-10:47 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: EL-CHEAP-O PINK FABRIC SOFTENER
MESSAGE: Hi Bob,
I too was forced to switch to the "free" versions of most laundry products because of problems with my skin. Since I have problems with just about every product -- the current version of Tide HE being one of the few exceptions --, I suspect that you'll have problems with the cheap pink stuff too. I don't know for sure. I ha