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Post# 24000-11/10/2002-10:20 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Bendix 36 Million? (from the book)
MESSAGE: Oh yeah - it was only $179.50!
(2190.62 in 2002)
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Post# 24001-11/10/2002-10:21 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 Classic Miele
MESSAGE: This is beautiful Louis - Miele certainly made a long lasting machine!
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Post# 24002-11/10/2002-10:23 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: KITCHENAID KDS-15 & KDS-18
MESSAGE: Thanks for the watchful eye out there - you never know when that dream machine is going to come along.
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Post# 24003-11/10/2002-10:31 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: New to group
MESSAGE: Hi and welcome - we have members all over the midwest, Ohio, Minnesota, Nebraska. I'll bet with some hunting in the Chicago area, you'll find some fantastic appliances. Lots of old homes with basements - are there Estate or Tag sales in your area?
Enjoy the club! Greg
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Post# 24004-11/10/2002-11:07 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Bendix 36 Million?
MESSAGE: Brent, aside from the fact that these machines didn't wassh all that well, here's a bit of trivia that I think I remember. These machines did last for a long time. GE kinda did a smear/fear marketing campaign in the late 50s telling people their front loaders were gonna break and flood everything/everywhere. Out of that campaign, a lot of people got rid of their Bendix machines for top loaders and were probably junked/scrapped.
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Post# 24005-11/10/2002-11:12 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Dryer on Ebay ((Hello Atlanta members or Steve 1-18!!!!!!))
MESSAGE: Y'all can't let this gem get loose can ya, Steve don't ya need another Whirlpool dryer? HQOTS???!!!???
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Post# 24006-11/10/2002-12:25 ||| chicapplis (chicago area)
SUBJECT: shipping costs
MESSAGE: has anyone had an experience with shipping a washer accross the country. Does UPS or FED-EX do that. and what about cost. I could understand a dishwasher or dryer but what about a washer with its loose innards. I mean unless you have an original shipping brace from the manufacturer how do you make sure it wouldn't damage the machine.
Thanks, Oh I was driving to pick up an 1978 almond kenmore dryer I bought and found a ,what I am estimating to be a, 1983 Imperial Kitchenaid Dishwasher just sitting at the curb, AND with the 1970's style wood insert front. Its like getting 3 for 1. :o}} I'm elated. (lol)
Steve,
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Post# 24007-11/10/2002-12:57 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: shipping costs (Welcome!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Steve, Welcome to the club!! You are going to enjoy this group a lot.
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Post# 24008-11/10/2002-13:03 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Dryer on Ebay (Whirlpool convertible-door dryer)
MESSAGE: There is one of these in John Lefever's warehouse. It opened down, but I couldn't get it to work sideways.
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Post# 24009-11/10/2002-13:37 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 Classic Miele (Thanks for the link Louis!)
MESSAGE: That is a cool looking machine. It looks like it is in great shape!
Was that a temp. display on the top of the machine by the dispenser?
That would be a cool machine to have.
Brent
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Post# 24010-11/10/2002-13:39 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Bendix 36 Million? (That makes more sense. Kinda.)
MESSAGE: Greg,
After I posted the post, I read it again, and it made the sense to me that you pointed out.
I agree about statistics back then. You could almost print anything and get away with whatever you wanted it seems.
Car ads were even worse.
Brent
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Post# 24011-11/10/2002-14:01 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: WHIRLPOOL GAS DRYER "2-SPEED, 5 TEMP?"
MESSAGE: Hello,
That is an interesting Whirlpool dryer that is on eBay.
I was wondering if that was a misprint, or is there a such thing as a 2-speed dryer?
If it is correct, what did it mean? I get the 5 temp part.
Brent
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Post# 24012-11/10/2002-14:53 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: 70's Frig. Up & Down Agitator Machine
MESSAGE: Strange, nothing!!.. Most of us are pining away for that machine. You are one lucky person!!
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Post# 24013-11/10/2002-15:12 ||| mulls (Johnson City,Tn)
SUBJECT: Gibson
MESSAGE: This ad from Tri Cities Tennessee Trading Post.I hope it is of interest to someone."1947 Gibson electric stove,3 elements,one deep well,storage drawer beside oven,white with chrome handles,very good condition,asking $200.276-645-0533".This sounds like a killer for someone doing a kitchen.
Tom
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Post# 24014-11/10/2002-15:15 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 Classic Miele (Thanks for the link Louis!)
MESSAGE: Yes, it indeed looks in great shape, there was only a broken relay inside the machine according to the text. The only thing I see on top is the plug (the white round thing behind the dispenser). It would be indeed a nice machine to have, but overhere hardly anyone has 380/400 Volts at home. Besides that these first frontloaders were extremely heavy, it must be around 150kg (around 330lbs).
Louis
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Post# 24015-11/10/2002-15:35 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: New to group (welcome)
MESSAGE: Welcome !! :) ......
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Post# 24016-11/10/2002-15:38 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: shipping costs (KA DW)
MESSAGE: I love the Kitchen Aid DW's Steve, but only the pre, I believe 1986 ones, the ones that were still "made by Hobart" as they usually say on the front...........congrads on your find.....
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Post# 24017-11/10/2002-16:21 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: WHIRLPOOL GAS DRYER "2-SPEED, 5 TEMP?" (Whirlpool dryer speeds)
MESSAGE: Two situations come into play:
1. Two drying speeds -- as in how fast moisture is removed from the clothing. The speeds were generally referred to as "Super" and "Gentle." Super was 'regular' speed, Gentle was slower. Changing the speed involved physically shifting the belt on a two-speed blower pulley (smaller and larger diameter sections) -- and may also have involved reducing the heat output by way of a two-stage heating element or gas burner. This is likely what "2-speed" means in that eBay ad. The speed control was a rotary dial on the panel, with "Super" sometimes indicated by a neon light.
2. Two or three tumble tumble speeds. I think three speeds was the initial offering, I don't know in what year. Then it was reduced to two speeds, then the feature was dropped completely. This involved a cone-shaped motor pulley, and physically shifting the drum belt along it for slower or faster tumble speeds. The speed control was a two- or three-position lever on the far right side of the control panel.
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Post# 24018-11/10/2002-18:19 ||| chicapplis (chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: shipping costs (KA DW)
MESSAGE: Thanks. At some point, in the 90's, whirlpool, which I'm not sure when they bought the KithenAid label, "canceled" the good dishwashers and stuck that name on their chincey (did I spell that right) Whirlpools, I mean come on !! It had to be the appliance crime of the decade. ugh.
A friend of mine remodeled his kitchen in about 1995 and put in a Superba. When the thing was running I thought there was something wrong with it. It was sooo quiet, I was resold on something I had high esteem for already. Then he built a house in 1999 and we went shopping, for both of us. He bought another Superba in Almond and I bought the cheapest model, also in almond. It was a disappointment. That stainless steel tub just seems so dark and I don't think it helps to quiet the machine. They also stole the quad wash arm I'm sure to make it "look" like a Kitchenaid. We returned them and bought him a Kenmore made by Whirlpool, with a plastic tub, It was slightly quieter but he returned that as well. Then a salesperson showed us Frigidaire one of their computer controled models. We both bought the same model. They are so quiet and versatile-you can wash just one rack instead of both. And the front is all one piece. They clean really well too. Sorry KitchenAid, Really.
Please, let us all bow our heads for a moment of silence.
... ... Fortunately, I feel I am amongst those who will understand my concerns.
May positive thoughts be with us
Steve
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Post# 24019-11/10/2002-18:21 ||| chicapplis (chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: shipping costs (KA DW)
MESSAGE: what was the difference between pre and post 1986 KitchenAids.
Steve
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Post# 24020-11/10/2002-18:46 ||| chicapplis (chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: WHIRLPOOL GAS DRYER "2-SPEED, 5 TEMP?" (I've seen one)
MESSAGE: My Aunt had one, it was white, and had one of those consoles that was larger on the far left third. I think it had a flourescent section in the console as well. I remember it had a 2 speed switch, but I didn't know what it did. Also, the lint filter was short, maybe 12" long and if you pulled it out when the machine was running the machine would blow exhaust all over the top.
Steve
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Post# 24021-11/10/2002-20:12 ||| Joshie (Arizona)
SUBJECT: New Maytag Atlantis
MESSAGE: Hi. Has anyone seen the brand new Maytag Atlantis? Just saw one on Saturday. Switches are now rotary with somewhat of a 'retro' look! And the medallion is very art deco! Joshie
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Post# 24022-11/10/2002-20:23 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: shipping costs (KA DWpre'86)
MESSAGE: pre 1986 were made by HOBART, not Whirlpool
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Post# 24023-11/10/2002-20:25 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: Whirlpool top removal lint filters
MESSAGE: I have never liked the placement of Whirlpool made dryers lint filters, always musses up the top of the machine..........
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Post# 24024-11/10/2002-21:28 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool top removal lint filters
MESSAGE: Greg, some of the more recent upper end Sears dryers have gone to having the lint filter inside the front door, and the drum/door is also mounted higher up within the cabinet, making it a more convenient machine to use all around. If they have done this to any of the Whirlpool-branded units, I have not seen them. I kind of wish they would offer that two way door again, it would be the best of both worlds. I have always liked the drop down door, but the new large capacity machines are so deep, I can see where a shorter person or person with shorter arms might have difficulty.
Whirlpool bought the KitchenAid brand in 1986, however they continued manufacturing the dishwashers in the Hobart style until about 1996. They were great machines, but I kind of wonder even if they had lasted past '96, if they would have survived this current stainless steel talltub craze.
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Post# 24025-11/10/2002-21:52 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New to group
MESSAGE: Welcome Steve. A great profile. Finally, other than JasonL, another guy who likes harvest gold & Coffee appliances as well as the unique Sand and Pewter colors from the 80s. I think you'll enjoy all of us here.
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Post# 24026-11/10/2002-21:54 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New Maytag Atlantis
MESSAGE: Joshie, a sad day in applianceville. Maytag was the last of the machines with "push buttons". I'd rather have some buttons to push than just knobs to grab all the time.
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Post# 24027-11/10/2002-22:05 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool top removal lint filters
MESSAGE: Scott, Whirlpool does offer the inside lint filter in its upper end dryers too. As far as post Whirlpool acquisition KA dishwashers, John LeFever says that the last of the "Hobart" style included the Whirlpool designed "Power-Clean_ mechanism and John says it was the beset-cleaning KA dishwasher made. I imagine this cleaning system survived in the KD24 & KD25 SS interior series, but I don't know that for sure. I personally believe the old "Hobart" style racks held more than today's style racks too.
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Post# 24028-11/10/2002-22:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool top removal lint filters
MESSAGE: I had one of the first WP-pump Kitchen Aid dishwasher in my condo before we bought this house. That was the best dishwasher I'd ever owned it was quiet, fast and the most solily built dishwasher on the market when I bought it in 1995. My only regret is not replacing with a $128 Hotpoint and bringing that KA to the new house.
Another appliance regret! On the bright side, I was hunting for a place in the basement for my newly aquired KDS-17 to find a home.
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Post# 24029-11/10/2002-22:37 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool top removal lint filters
MESSAGE: ...and I loved the enclosed upper wash arm too! The 1996 model I had was just fantastic. So quiet, well made, and easy to load.
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Post# 24030-11/10/2002-22:39 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool top removal lint filters
MESSAGE: ..oh and the hidden heating element!
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Post# 24031-11/10/2002-22:44 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: shipping costs (KA DWpre'86)
MESSAGE: My 1992 Superba still has the "classic" KA control panel. Four-way lower arm, flow-through drying (although at reduced wattage), circular water heating element in the sump area. Lower rack has plates on the left side instead of the center, full-width silver basket on the front. Upper rack is the classic tilt kind with adjustable tines, but with upper wash arm. Alas, no Constant Rinse. :-/
Oh, and the motor does reverse.
It never occurred to me when I bought it that it isn't a true Hobart, but I suppose it's not.
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Post# 24032-11/11/2002-00:47 ||| chicapplis (chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: New Maytag Atlantis (speaking of buttons...)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the Welcome, Appnut and everyone else.
I was wondering does anyone remember on the Beverly Hillbillies they had a Maytag washer and dryer in the backhall from the kitchen. I think they were pink (or whatever the proper name for that color was). Anyway, they didn't have a knob, they just had buttons, of which, I assume was somekind of auto advancing mechanical timer. I don't think I have ever seen that on any other brand and I wonder how reliable they were and what the years were that they made them. Did they make them into the 70's, for example.
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Post# 24033-11/11/2002-01:41 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: New Maytag Atlantis (speaking of buttons...)
MESSAGE: Yup, always got a thrill when that pair was in a scene. I think Maytag did carry the pushbutton models into the 1970s, one of the experts around here can provide details/corrections.
KitchenAid had a pushbutton rapid-advance timer as well, in the 1980s. KA's first two washer offerings were a fully-electronic model, and the pushbutton mechanical-timer model.
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Post# 24034-11/11/2002-06:58 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: WHIRLPOOL IMPERIAL 2 SPEED 5 TEMP DRYER
MESSAGE: I own one. Mine is pink and has a window in it. It's a 1963, and I use it regularly. I completely rebuilt the thing about 6 years ago, including new belts, new seals, new blower and rear drum bearings, new light bulbs, etc. I have many photo's of the machine, but I'm sure most of you are already tired of seeing them. Anyone who would like to see any part of the machine, just ask and I'll be glad to take the photo of that part just for you.
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Post# 24035-11/11/2002-07:15 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: PUSHBUTTON MAYTAG A 906 Washing Machine
MESSAGE: Yes. Granny enjoyed a top of the line pair of Maytags, with all pushbutton controls. The washer used the button to make the selections, and used electro-mechanical means to accomplish this. In other words, there were NOT electronics, but there were switches and motors and timers behind the control panel, and the thing was more like a juke box (of the same period)than a computer controlled device such as we have become accostomed to today.
I owned a lovely sunshine yellow 1967 Maytag A906, which I lovingly rebuilt and sold to our own Lightedcontrols man, Mark Hardman-Buseman, years ago, the same time that I sold him my FRIGIDAIRE WCI59 turquoise porcelain washer & dryer pair. It was a happy day for both of us, and the beginning of what has turned out to be a swell friendship, and I do mean that sincerely.
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Post# 24036-11/11/2002-08:27 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: PUSHBUTTON MAYTAG A 906 Washing Machine (Granny's Maytags)
MESSAGE: In the first season of "Beverly Hillbillies' when the show was in black & white, Granny's Maytags did not match. One of the pair, I think it was the washer, had a rotary dial on the back panel which looked suspiciously like an early Maytag coin-op machine. It wasn't until season 2 or 3 that this machine was replaced with the one that matched the model with the long time-line looking control.
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Post# 24037-11/11/2002-09:28 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New Maytag Atlantis (speaking of buttons...)
MESSAGE: Greg (Gansky) has a set of these machines, I think he said from 1967. His have the newer control panel that came out around then, whereas Granny's had the previous style control panel I believe.
They are neat machines with the rapid advance timer and beautifully backlit control panels, and with the dryer, you just pop in the clothes, hit a button and they dry gently and come out beautifully. The only slight disadvantage in the "real world" with the washer would be that there are only two water levels, and certain cycles only let you use full fill. Other than that, they work great and are of course very convenient to use.
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Post# 24038-11/11/2002-10:07 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Bendix dryer temp limits
MESSAGE: Any one have the temperature limits for the thermostats in the dryer heating element box and the hi-limit thermostat in the blower housing? 1952 Bendix dryer doesn't seem to want to cut the heat...
-ph
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Post# 24039-11/11/2002-10:19 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: shipping costs (Craters & Freighters)
MESSAGE: Welcome!
Several of us have used Crater & Freighters to ship machines. If they have an office in your area, they will come to your home, pack it up very securely, and ship to the destination. It can be quite expensive, but it's all relative to the machine being sent/rec'd. Mail Box Etc will also do packing and shipping, but you have to bring it to them. The machines that I have rec'd have not been cross-braced or bolted and arrived just fine.
-ph
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Post# 24040-11/11/2002-10:22 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: 70's Frig. Up & Down Agitator Machine
MESSAGE: $50-$100. There are still many of these Frigidaire 1-18 around, altho' parts are getting scarce. Check the top right of the control panel and let us know what model number you have. I may be in Syracuse over either Thanksgiving or Christmas...
-ph
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Post# 24041-11/11/2002-10:24 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: "Blue" commercial
MESSAGE: GE monitor top refrigerator in the first sceen (1940's).
Stove with round oven window in the second (1950's?).
KA dishwasher in the 70's sceen.
-ph
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Post# 24042-11/11/2002-10:26 ||| chicapplis (chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: New Maytag Atlantis (TV trivia)
MESSAGE: Wow, I am sooo impressed. You guys are so knowledgable. I thought I was the only one who noticed these tv details. I am obviously in good company.
So Ok, heres some TV trivia:
1. On the Bradybunch, what brand washer/dryer did they have and what color was it?
2. Did the Golden Girls have a dishwasher and if so what brand was it?
3. On Dallas what brand refrigerator did Southfork have, what type of frig was it, and what was unusual about the situation?
4. I don't know if anyone remembers a show called Don't eat the daisies. I hardly remember it myself, but I do remember the type of washer they had. Do you remember what brand it was, what color it was and where it was located in the house?
and finally
5. In the first couple of seasons of KnotsLanding what brand vacuum cleaner did Karan and Sid have, and what style was it?
To all knowledgable contestants the 6th E-mailer to get at least one correct answer right wins 1000 Applianceville dollars. The 8th E-mailer to get all the answers correct wins the GRAND PRIZE -a TRIP, yes thats right a trip to Sams club to buy me a bottle of Downy April Fresh scent and some sugar cookies.(lol)
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Post# 24043-11/11/2002-10:26 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Dryer on Ebay (Hello Atlanta members)
MESSAGE: I sho' don't need me another dryer up in this here trailer!
-ph
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Post# 24044-11/11/2002-10:28 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: WHIRLPOOL GAS DRYER "2-SPEED, 5 TEMP?" (2 FAN speeds)
MESSAGE: There's a pulley on the fan to slow down the air flow. This dryer does not tumble at different speeds.
-ph
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Post# 24045-11/11/2002-10:29 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: WHIRLPOOL GAS DRYER "2-SPEED, 5 TEMP?" (Whirlpool dryer speeds)
MESSAGE: Yeah, what Glenn says!
-ph
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Post# 24046-11/11/2002-10:33 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool top removal lint filters
MESSAGE: One of the charms of owning a WP/KM dryer is cleaning the lint filter, then blowing or brushing off the lint on the dryer top with your hands! It's kinda like having to load a Frigidaire in quadrants; just one of those things you have to do!
-ph
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Post# 24047-11/11/2002-12:01 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: PUSHBUTTON MAYTAG A 906 Washing Machine (and Jukeboxes)
MESSAGE: Didn't Seeburg (jukebox maker) design some of the electromechanical parts for those pushbutton machines like the 906 and the 59 Lady Kenmore? I thought I saw that somewhere.
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Post# 24048-11/11/2002-12:22 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: New to group (Welcome )
MESSAGE: Welcome to this Great club
Peter
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Post# 24049-11/11/2002-13:47 ||| todde (longbeach, IN)
SUBJECT: RE: New Maytag Atlantis (TV trivia)
MESSAGE: 1. Very easy, avocado whirlpol set, who can forget Bobby washing his suit or Alice and Carol's wash off with Best detergent, wait was the other detergent in the wash-off?
2. It was a GE and I hope she had NBC replace the fire hazard of a machine.
3. I will have to say sub-zero side by side and they had 2 of them?
4. Ah, Mrs. Nash had a set of harvest gold Maytags with the lighted console in the basement. They were located by their monster of a furnace and Martha the maid had to be shown how to operate the washer.
5. A hoover upright.
Here's the real BONUS question Hazel was on for 5 seasons and went through 5 sets of appliances (that maid sure was hard on them) some were the same brand the following season but the color was changed. Can you do the appliances or at least color's in order from season one thru five?
Super Bonus?
On the late 60's movie Yours, Mine, and Ours with Lucille Ball and Henry Fonda what type of washer did she have and what was unusual about her laundry set-up. Also what detergent did she buy by the cart full?
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Post# 24050-11/11/2002-14:39 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: WHIRLPOOL GAS DRYER "2-SPEED, 5 TEMP?" (Whirlpool dryer speeds)
MESSAGE: If you click the link you will see my 1967 Turquaz(HAHA) Mark XII.
The two speed on this year actuated a baffle in the lint duct that restricted air flow and also switched the heating element to the low wattage side only. They did away with the true speed selector because of too many problems.
LINK: http://www.classicappliances.com/MUSEUM/Whirlpool/Museum-Whirlpool.htm
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Post# 24051-11/11/2002-14:46 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: My Toys
MESSAGE: How y'all durrin? I gots me one of them warshers that has that up-n-down type thang in the middle. I be likin it a lot, but it don't have a Wig cycle so I still can't warsh all my wigs in it. If I do they all get tangle together and it be a mess.
So if you want to see them click the link and then click on Favorite Things. That will brang you to some piktures of some of the stuffs I haves up in this hea trailor.
(I really don't think I need any more coffee today. Elevenseventytwo cups are enough)
LINK: http://bellsouthpwp.net/d/u/dumontj/
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Post# 24052-11/11/2002-17:05 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: New Maytag Atlantis (TV trivia)
MESSAGE: Well, I will take a shot at the bonuses:
1) I think Hazel started with a Bendix Duomatic, then went to the top loading Philco Bendix matched set. Later on when she went to work for the other Mr. Baxter - Mr Steve (Ray Fulmer) and Missy #2 (Lynn Borden) they went for the push button Maytags. I cannot do the colors because we had black and white TV when I was growing up.
2) In the movie Yours, Mine and Ours, Lucille Ball had turquoise Maytags in her basement. What made it unusual was that she had a few washers and a few dryers (at least 2 of each. But with 18 kids and a few in cloth diapers combined with the small capacity of Maytags, she needed all she could get. And speaking of All, that would have been the detergent that filled her shopping cart. Yes, jumbo size boxes of Active All. I particularly liked the laundry chute going down to the basement. Did you note though in the scene where she is actually doing laundry, she is pouring "Fluffy All" (from the red box) into the machine??
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Post# 24053-11/11/2002-17:07 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix dryer temp limits
MESSAGE: Hi Peter - check on the thermostats themselves - there should be a number stamped on it like 139, 155, 190. This is the cutoff temp of the thermostat. I think the operating temp for this dryer is like 150-155.
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Post# 24054-11/11/2002-17:10 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: Whirlpool Direct Drive (1 speed motor -> 2 speed?)
MESSAGE: Hi all,
Took in a nice direct drive washer but i found out the gentle speed wasn't workin, replaced the timer, still didn't work and then i noticed somebody swapped motors on me, the motor doesn't have a plugin for the orange wire thats hot when the machines supposed to be in slow mode, so my question is, is there anyway to make a one speed motor a two speed or do i have to just get a new motor, god i hate it when i put more into a machine than its worth!!
~Steven
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Post# 24055-11/11/2002-17:18 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: WHIRLPOOL GAS DRYER "2-SPEED, 5 TEMP?" (2 FAN speeds)
MESSAGE: The gas model operates at 30,000 BTU in "super" speed selection and 20,000 BTU in "gentle." In electric models, the heater runs at 5600 watts on super and 4600 on gentle. The fan still ran at the same speed in this model (although other models were different) but airflow was lowered in the gentle selection by a damper above the blower inside the exhaust air duct.
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Post# 24056-11/11/2002-17:21 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: WHIRLPOOL GAS DRYER "2-SPEED, 5 TEMP?" (Whirlpool dryer speeds)
MESSAGE: Some 1972 Whirlpool dryers had a "three speed" selector which used a shifter fork assembly to resposition the drive belt on a tapered pulley. Delicate or Small load setting was 44 rpm, Medium setting was 49 rpm and Heavy Load setting was 55 rpms.
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Post# 24057-11/11/2002-17:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool top removal lint filters
MESSAGE: One benefit of the large/super capacity machines with the top-mounted lint filter is that these have a 29" cabinet where the newer, front-mounted filters are in a 27" cabinet. The larger cabinet has a larger drum diameter which might help slightly with larger items and wrinkling. If you pull the filter out while the dryer is running, much of the lint will get sucked back into the air duct. This won't work on older style models that blow through the filter.
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Post# 24058-11/11/2002-17:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: My Toys
MESSAGE: Hi Jason - you might want to invest in some natural hair wigs, those poly ones never last!
Your pictures are great!
Greg
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Post# 24059-11/11/2002-17:32 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: Classic Movies and Classic Appliances......
MESSAGE: To Everyone:
As everyone may know by now, as much as I have a love for classic appliances and so forth, my true love remains high fidelity audio and home theater. And as such, then I have a couple interesting questions I would like to ask any of you.
(01). Recently, I have bought the James Bond "007" Series on DVD (which consists of the following movies...... "Dr. No -- 1962", "Goldfinger -- 1964", "The Man With The Golden Gun -- 1974", "The Spy Who Loved Me -- 1977", "License To Kill -- 1989", "Goldeneye -- 1995", and "You Only Live Twice -- 1997"), and I have already viewed "Dr No" and "Goldfinger". Now, when I looked at the first two movies in my "007" DVD set, I did not recall seeing any classic appliances in those movies. But now, I have previewed "The Man With The Golden Gun" about two days ago or so, and in that movie, I believe there were appliances being shown in a segment of it. What I saw were two "high-end" built-in ovens (well...... I thought they were considered "high-end" at the time) flanking a fancy "high-end" kitchen. I may have saw a "stainless steel" refrigerator as well (and if that was the case, then gee...... I didn't know that stainless steel was in vogue in the early 1970's). But now, I am sure of this. What I saw in the adjoining room during the same sequence in the film was a Westinghouse Tumble Action Washer and Matching Dryer (which I knew they were in fact making in the 1970's..... afterwards....... I have put my DVD Player on pause, zoomed it up to about the second level, and then ran the scene at "one-half" speed going either forwards or backwards in order to get a good view of what that machine really looked like without "Tattoo" of "Fantasy Island" standing in the way all of the time). And what I want to know now from any of you is, did any of you consider the Westinghouse Washer a good washer back in the 1970s????
(02). And if a movie is supposed to be of "high-end", "high-tech" aspirations like the "Bond" movies always tend to be, then why didn't they use Mieles instead of Westinghouses (not that I have anything against Westinghouse)???
(03). I believe if these washers were still being manufactured today, then I believe they would retail for anywhere from $600.00 to about $950.00 (depending on model and features). How much did these washers retailed for back in the 1970's??? If I could recall correctly, the one that the late Pearl Bailey was advertising has retailed for about $450.00 to about $550.00 or so (and I think this was in 1977, I believe).
(04). And lastly, if any of you have seen any classic movies (not shows like Beverly Hillbillies, I Love Lucy, Bewitched, and the Brady Bunch, and so forth. I already know about those shows) at all that has anything in them that resembles classic appliances as well???
I am going to stop now....... but I eagerly await responses that may come my way later on.
Later and Regards to All:
--Charles--
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Post# 24060-11/11/2002-17:36 ||| todde (longbeach, IN)
SUBJECT: RE: New Maytag Atlantis (TV trivia)
MESSAGE: Good job Angus! Hazel's color scheme was the following. I'm sure on the washer brands as you stated, not quite certain on the other appliance brands, though.
Season 1, appliances were a sunny yellow, the fridge and stove looked like from late 50's sort of I love Lucy.
Season 2, Mr. B bought her brand new appliances in turquoise including the matching Bendix set. The fridge was a bottom mount freezer. I'd guess probably Frigidaire, as was the range.
Season 3, For some reason the appliances were all the same type only the color of them changed to coppertone, with no mention.
Season 4, In episode #110 the storyline centered around Hazel trying to get Mr. B to remodel. The fridge was still a bottom mount, but the stove was now counter top, with a wall oven. The dishwasher had one large rotary dial. Maybe at this time the appliances could have been Hotpoint. The color was now sort of a yellow, not a bright one as in season one but not a harvest gold, maybe just gold. Was that a color at the time?
Season 5, She goes to work for his brother in an entirely different house and her appliances in that house are coppertone, with the wonderful Maytag push buttons, and a top mount fridge.
As for Lucy and the All detergent, If I remember correctly All was always a big sponser of Here's Lucy.
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Post# 24061-11/11/2002-17:52 ||| chicapplis (chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: My Toys (awesom collection)
MESSAGE: Wow, your collection is like a dream come true. excellent set up too. And that Kenmore black computer controlled. I had that set once for a short period of time. paid like $599 for the washer and $499 for the electric dryer. They were black and I thought is was so sleek with that 3/8" chrome tape around the top edge. Unfortunately was too neive to appreciate what I had and sold them. I didn't know that 86' was the last year for the belt drive. Thanks for that tidbit. The dispensall was so cool. It fit flush and would handle anything. Especially with the new liguid detergent insert, if that was what you preferred to use. I want get a set like the one you have with the dispensall but with the mechanical timer. Excellent. Excellent. I don't travel alot but for this kind of stuff I will.
Sigh. (catch my breath)
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Post# 24062-11/11/2002-18:47 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: My Toys (TRAILOR TRAYSH (joking, of course))
MESSAGE: You makin funna me city boy? My Friggy-More can beat up that there Pulserator you got in yer garage along with that Sissy Jap bike you ridin' on. My Harley eats them things for breakfast.
BTW, Cool 1-18 and awesome bike. Ride on!
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Post# 24063-11/11/2002-18:48 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Movies and Classic Appliances...... ( Attn: ChaskellJr2 - WIDESCREEN HIGH DEFINITION & vintage front loaders)
MESSAGE: ChaskellJr2 - Did you make it to the recent appliance convention? I'm in Arlington, easy to find near 395 and Glebe road, and feature several vintage appliances as well as 16:9 HDTV with Direct TV and DVD, naturally...However, your email is not correct any longer in the profiles of this site, as I have tried to reach via email already. Contrary to what many here may think, I do not bight, unless asked, and enjoy spending time with friends.
My email is robert.wirth2@verizon.net
BEST WISHES.
BOB
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Post# 24064-11/11/2002-18:49 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Movies and Classic Appliances...... (Cost of Living then and now)
MESSAGE: Hi Charles - the link is to a cost of living calculator, it's fun to plug in some of the prices of the now-vintage appliance costs and see the result in today's dollars. The technology really hasn't changed all that much over the years (they just add less water now) but the comparative cost has come way down. The 1978 Montgomery Wards tumble action washers retailed for an average of $450. (in harvest gold, of course) In today's dollars it would be $1200.
LINK: http://www.aier.org/cgi-bin/colcalculator.cgi
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Post# 24065-11/11/2002-19:47 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: WHIRLPOOL GAS DRYER "2-SPEED, 5 TEMP?" (Very Interesting Greg about the BTU's)
MESSAGE: Greg,
That is so interesting. Gee, 30,000 BTU's? That is lot's of heat.
Do you know how it was able to kick down to a lower btu in the "second speed"? I am just by guessing that it used the pin in the gas output like the combos? I think that John talked about how the pin would push out as the temp of the inside of the drum become hotter, causing the burner to have less of a flame. I am very interested on how this was done.
Thanks for all of your knowledge.
Brent
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Post# 24066-11/11/2002-20:28 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: JASONL'S VIDEO - FULL LENGTH VERSION - NOW AVAILABLE HERE!
MESSAGE: Now available for your downloading and viewing delight, The Fabulous JasonL's Convention Video - Full length version, featuring extended scenes and never before seen footage.
20 megs in size. Works fine with broadband, but may require a full download before playing with dialup connections.
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/convention.wmv
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Post# 24067-11/11/2002-20:37 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: WHIRLPOOL GAS DRYER "2-SPEED, 5 TEMP?" (Very Interesting Greg about the BTU's)
MESSAGE: It was a needle/pin orifice controlled by a solenoid. When set for heavy-high the solenoid would be energized and pull a pin allowing 30,000 BTU of gas to flow through. This is quite a nice dryer actually - fully featured and fabulous color - I don't think you should let this one slip away!
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Post# 24068-11/11/2002-20:54 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: JASONL'S VIDEO - FULL LENGTH VERSION - NOW AVAILABLE HERE!
MESSAGE: Amazing - you did a wonderful job! Thanks for all the hard work!
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Post# 24069-11/11/2002-20:58 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: JASONL'S VIDEO - FULL LENGTH VERSION - NOW AVAILABLE HERE!
MESSAGE: What a great video!!! Makes me sad that I missed all of the fun ... BUT, I do look forward to being there next year with all of you guys. This video combined my two favorites ... vintage washers and men! Jason, you are a master when it comes to the videos and computers. Thanks for sharing!!!!!\
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Post# 24070-11/11/2002-21:04 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: My Toys (Beautiful 1-18)
MESSAGE: HQOTS nice pair of 1-18's! The washer looks like its humming along!
jet
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Post# 24071-11/11/2002-21:05 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix dryer temp limits (My GE Combo...)
MESSAGE: My Combo reads 275 degrees!!! That is way hot! And it gets that hot ask gregm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post# 24072-11/11/2002-21:25 ||| chicapplis (chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: JASONL'S VIDEO - FULL LENGTH VERSION - NOW AVAILABLE HERE! (how do I get tickets to the next one)
MESSAGE: Wow, kudos on your production. Sign me up for next time.
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Post# 24073-11/11/2002-21:32 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: JASONL'S VIDEO - FULL LENGTH VERSION - NOW AVAILABLE HERE! (AMAZING!)
MESSAGE: I HAVE NEVER SEEN SUCH COOL FOOTAGE OF WASHING MACHINES IN MY LIFE! I HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO EXPLAIN THE ANGLES AND WHAT CYCLES I WANT TO SEE, BUT GUESSED RIGHT IN THE MONEY!
Best Washes
-Jamie-
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Post# 24074-11/11/2002-21:37 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: JASONL'S VIDEO - FULL LENGTH VERSION - NOW AVAILABLE HERE!
MESSAGE: Todd, if you want to do another "Land Of Rust" wash-in, I'll bring the video and you can watch on the big screen. It's awesome.
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Post# 24075-11/11/2002-21:37 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: My Toys
MESSAGE: Jason, I love the new house. The pictures are terrific. However, can we see what the rest of the kitchen looks like too??? (And any other appliances you might have stached somewhere else?)
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Post# 24076-11/11/2002-21:41 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix dryer temp limits (My GE Combo...)
MESSAGE: Does your combo have the "drip dry" setting? I always found this amusing!
Even at 275, how long does it take to dry a load in the combo? Does the automatic cycle work well?
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Post# 24077-11/11/2002-21:41 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix dryer temp limits (My GE Combo...YUP!)
MESSAGE: it gets hot, hot, hot........ :) ........
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Post# 24078-11/11/2002-21:42 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix dryer temp limits (My GE Combo...auto works)
MESSAGE: I thought the auto setting worked well, takes an hour + to dry the average load, obviously Jon will know better.
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Post# 24079-11/11/2002-21:52 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New Maytag Atlantis (speaking of buttons...)
MESSAGE: Steve, the 1959 LK top load washer had an all-button rapid advance type of timer scenario too. Then there was the Hotpoint Touch Command washer & dryer with the same arrangement. This set had lights that glowed when it was wash, rinse, spin cyclews for washer & drying and cool down for the dryer. Westinghouse front loader in 1958 or 1959 had all-button system too. Plus what Glenn said about the 1980s KA Superba Selectra Washer & Dryer. Off the top of my head, I can't think of any other machines that had a rapid advance type of timer arrangement, but there may be others.
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Post# 24080-11/11/2002-21:55 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: PUSHBUTTON MAYTAG A 906 Washing Machine (Granny's Maytags)
MESSAGE: Les, contrary to what you might think, those were a "matched" set of Maytags. The electronic controlled sensor dryer back then had the "dummy" dial with 4-pushbuttons and earlier versions, may have still been used on the set though, had the rotary dial with both timed settings & the auto dry settings. I don't believe until the new control panel arrangement in either 1966 or 1967, when the 906 arived, did they have a dryer with all-buttons that was the cosmetically matched panel to the washer.
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Post# 24081-11/11/2002-22:00 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: POD 11/11/2002 Westinghouse Laundromat
MESSAGE: Just goes to show ya, doing laundry is child's play!!!!
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Post# 24082-11/11/2002-22:00 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: New Maytag Atlantis (speaking of buttons...)
MESSAGE: 1979 Frigidaire 1-18
The Holy Grail of 1-18's!!!!
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Post# 24083-11/11/2002-22:06 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: PUSHBUTTON MAYTAG A 906 Washing Machine (Granny's Maytags)
MESSAGE: There was an all button dryer to match the button washer in like 1964-65. It was only around a short time before the panel design change in the '06 models in '67.
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Post# 24084-11/11/2002-22:08 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: JASONL'S VIDEO - FULL LENGTH VERSION - NOW AVAILABLE HERE! (FULL LENGTH VERSION)
MESSAGE: This is a real great video
Thanks much for a more detailed version
Peter
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Post# 24085-11/11/2002-22:14 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: JASONL'S VIDEO - FULL LENGTH VERSION - NOW AVAILABLE HERE!
MESSAGE: Jason, We do need to get together for another wash-in. We just moved to the new house 2 months ago and I still have to do some plumbing work to get the other machine (Frigidaire) hooked back up. Have to work in Houston for a couple of weekends (in order to renew my nursing license in Texas), but will call you soon to set up a date. My parents are even on the lookout for "vintage" machines at their weekend garage sales and flea markets.
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Post# 24086-11/11/2002-22:48 ||| chicapplis (chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: New Maytag Atlantis (1-18 ?)
MESSAGE: I have seen this alot. What is 1-18 refer to . I am not real familiar with fridgidaire washers other than that they had an up and down agitator.
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Post# 24087-11/11/2002-23:26 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: New Maytag Atlantis (1-18 ?)
MESSAGE: The "1-18" designation refers to the machine's ability to handle loads ranging from 1 pound to 18 pounds.
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Post# 24088-11/11/2002-23:35 ||| Dick_S. (Palm Springs vicinity)
SUBJECT: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18
MESSAGE: I should have it running within the next couple of weeks. I'm real excited,
guys,
as this is my first Frigidaire, and I've wanted one for years. And thanks to
Applicanceville.com, a couple of months I was recharged and encouraged to
start my search. Can't believe my luck in that I found one so quickly and
subsequently also all the parts it needed.
LINK: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~stmpstrt55/washer.htm
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Post# 24089-11/12/2002-00:36 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18
MESSAGE: Dick S, I think it's outstanding that one's dream is able to be accomplished so quickly. I'm glad this sight was an impetus to your search and support thereof. You and the machine are a handome couple!!! Just remember in your excitement and for your safety, to collect dirty laundry out of the hamper and not throw yourself in with clothes on too. I know it's difficult to contain oneself when around a Frigidaire pulsating away, but we must restrain ourselves for safety sake (although I have placed my hand at the bottom of a tub while the machine is agitating away (near the nergy ring) and no a hurt finger whatsoever). Love that live water action!!!!!.
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Post# 24090-11/12/2002-00:39 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New Maytag Atlantis (1-18 ?)
MESSAGE: Steve (chicapplis) see Dick S's subsequent post & link of photos of his beautiful poppy red Frigidaire 1-18 washer. This was the last of GM Frigidaire's machines. The 1-18 was Frigidaire's only non-solid-tub washer. It had the largest capacity of any frigidaire waasher and offered multiple water level setting as opposed to two for prior solid-tub machines.
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Post# 24091-11/12/2002-03:28 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: JASONL'S VIDEO - FULL LENGTH VERSION - NOW AVAILABLE HERE!
MESSAGE: Cooooooooolll video!!!
Thank you Jason!
Louis
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Post# 24092-11/12/2002-06:56 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: Machines arriving tomorrow from Canada
MESSAGE: It took nearly two weeks from Canada to sunny southern California but my machines arrive tomorrow....1947 Bendix white round front loader and Maytag wringer washer...I have been saving up dirty laundry...cant wait to get them here and washing away....will post pictures eventually....also waiting for Westinghouse slant front but that hasnt even left Georgia for its new home in southern California.....shipping process takes a while I guess
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Post# 24093-11/12/2002-07:07 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: POD Speed Wash
MESSAGE: Are those Frigidaire washers?
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Post# 24094-11/12/2002-07:14 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18 (congrads)
MESSAGE: Dick, what a great find, I love the color........it washes better if you don't overload it, like any machine really, good luck with it and have fun :-)
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Post# 24095-11/12/2002-07:23 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18
MESSAGE: Great pictures - looks like a lot of work, but it will be worth it to have this washer like new again! Best of luck and thanks for sharing your fun pictures.
Greg
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Post# 24096-11/12/2002-07:24 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Machines arriving tomorrow from Canada
MESSAGE: I know how you feel - the waiting is nearly unbearable. Good luck with your new machines!
Greg
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Post# 24097-11/12/2002-07:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Speed Wash (Speed Queen)
MESSAGE: Speed Queen - around 1954 or so. I have a 1954 Speed Queen washer and dryer in my collection so I recognized that emblem on front!
Fantastic POD!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Collection+Photos&.src=ph&.dnm=South+Room+4.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Collection%2bPhotos%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 24098-11/12/2002-08:01 ||| Frigilux (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: Gansky: Speed Queen!
MESSAGE: Nice SQ set, Gansky! Did the pump/motor run during the fill portion of the cycle, as did later SQ's?
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Post# 24099-11/12/2002-08:51 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18 ('79 Frigidaire 1-18 )
MESSAGE: This is a Beauty
Best of Luck with it
Peter
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Post# 24100-11/12/2002-09:06 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18 (78 or earlier)
MESSAGE: Looks like you have a wonderful 78 model (79 models had a water level graphic). I have several of these consoles, so if your's does not clean up, I can send you one.
-ph
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Post# 24101-11/12/2002-09:36 ||| chicapplis (chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18
MESSAGE: I'm excited for you, It looks like its in pretty good shape.
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Post# 24102-11/12/2002-09:42 ||| chicapplis (chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: New Maytag Atlantis (1-18 ?)
MESSAGE: Its cool,
Poppy Red, I think I've only seen that color on Frigidaires, were they the only ones to offer that color?
I had an neighbor who had a mid 70s harvest gold frigidair set that they swore by.
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Post# 24103-11/12/2002-10:10 ||| chicapplis (chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Speed Wash (Speed Queen clean)
MESSAGE: what a layout. Everything is so clean, level, straight, and tastefully painted. A sign of a hard dutiful worker. I am only a week and half into collecting (again). And thats the way to present. I mean it should be, we work hard to save our machines from who knows what fate. We need to pamper out babies.
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Post# 24104-11/12/2002-10:30 ||| chicapplis (chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Movies and Classic Appliances...... (They only washer I can remember from like the 40's)
MESSAGE: was the Dumsteads, I think, husband and wife, child or 2 with dog. lived in a cape cod house. I forget their names. His was Dagwood, I think. Anyway a sales man called on them for a semi-automatic ringer washer which he had set up in the kitchen but not bolted down. And he said he could show it washing but not spinning. Then some distraction happened and the saleman was annoying her and she turned the knob to spin and it made quite a mess. I remember the long hoses run from the kitchen sink.
I don't know if that was a movie or a series. I remember watching it once as a child. Interesting, I don't remember much else about it, but I remember the washer. I must be one of those like, washing machine fanatics, or something. You think. HMMMM..
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Post# 24105-11/12/2002-11:02 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: GE and Downy survive GA tornado
MESSAGE: What a spin cycle!
LINK: http://www.accessatlanta.com/ajc/metro/photos/gastorm/image12.html
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Post# 24106-11/12/2002-11:21 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: JASONL'S VIDEO - FULL LENGTH VERSION - NOW AVAILABLE HERE!
MESSAGE: Yay!!! Great job!
-ph
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Post# 24107-11/12/2002-11:23 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: My Toys (Ms SQL don't know no trailer)
MESSAGE: Now that's just ignunt. Y'all got too much humidity up under yo wigs. Go take a nerve pill befo you go ahollerin'...
-ph
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Post# 24108-11/12/2002-11:40 ||| todde (longbeach, IN)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Movies and Classic Appliances...... (They only washer I can remember from like the 40's)
MESSAGE: They were the Bumsteds, and the movie was Blondie. The subtitle was Dagwood asks for a Raise.
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Post# 24109-11/12/2002-11:47 ||| todde (longbeach, IN)
SUBJECT: RE: GE and Downy survive GA tornado (Tornado and Soap Products)
MESSAGE: I remember when I was a youngster, and a tornado hit near by and really damaged a local market. The owner's were very good friends of my parents and they gave them truckloads of cleaning supplies from the damaged market. I understand because of the possibility of glass being in products the insurance company makes the store dispose of everything. Well, we had box after box of detergent. I remember how fun it was to have such a variety. I wish I had some of those boxes now.
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Post# 24110-11/12/2002-11:47 ||| cleanteamofny (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: JASONL'S VIDEO - FULL LENGTH VERSION - NOW AVAILABLE HERE!
MESSAGE: This is so beautiful!
Awesome job Imperialbob!!!!!!
CleanteamofNY
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Post# 24111-11/12/2002-12:07 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: CONVENTION VIDEO PART II
MESSAGE: JASON,
THANKS FOR ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK ON THE VIDEO! IT WAS AMAZING! MADE ME MISS ALL OF YOU GUYS SO MUCH!
BOB, THANKS ALSO!
BRENT
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Post# 24112-11/12/2002-12:08 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18 (pulsator cap search goes on and on and on . . .)
MESSAGE: Love that Poppy Red GM Frigidaire color. Good luck with the machine. May you find other machines you're looking for as well!
Wherever you found all the parts that you needed, by chance would they have the grey or black pulsator caps for the old 50's Unimatics? Please let me know the name of the company, I'd like to contact them to see if they might have the part, or know where I might find it.
P.S. Peter, I assume you didn't find it. Did you look everywhere you had intended to? Thanks anyway!
Eternally searching,
Ken
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Post# 24113-11/12/2002-12:33 ||| Flewbug (Greensboro, NC)
SUBJECT: Truly Vintage whirlpool dishwasher
MESSAGE: A friend has asked me to sell this for her and I'm not sure where to begin. This is a Whirlpool dishwasher with a metal label stating Hershey-Sexton mfg. co. patented July 28, 1914. Its in very good condition and seems to be complete. It has a grey metal tub with a long lever that works the blade inside. There is a removable dishrack inside. Can anyone enlighten me on this?
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Post# 24114-11/12/2002-15:17 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: GE and Downy survive GA tornado
MESSAGE: LOL, looks like the reporter is missing the "laundry gene" -- that's an open dryer door, not a washer!
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Post# 24115-11/12/2002-18:48 ||| JEtcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE and Downy survive GA tornado
MESSAGE: I'll say what a spin cycle, and they don't look that wrinkled!!
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Post# 24116-11/12/2002-19:04 ||| zzzzz (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: New Maytag Atlantis (1-18 ?)
MESSAGE: If I'm not mistaken, the 1947-49 Frigidaire washers were non-solid-tub, as well.
Of course, I've seen a "1-18" with a conventional oscillating agitator, a late-1970's-style console and cabinet, and a GM-style window in a Westinghouse-style lid . This was one of the early-1980s WCI "Westinghouseidaires." Impostor!
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Post# 24117-11/12/2002-19:21 ||| jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: Rare! Frigidaire Script
MESSAGE: Get a load of this script! I have never seen it but I'll bet Robert has a MINT! copy up in his bellfrey!!!
jet
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2070472904
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Post# 24118-11/12/2002-19:23 ||| Pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18 (78 or earlier)
MESSAGE: I believe I have a '79 Frigidaire I-18 becuase it does have the water level graphic, GM logo and Jetclean agitator. It works great, so it is well worth Dick's efforts to restore his. Mine is also poppy. Any clue as to what the entire model number is? It is at my vacation home and I am not there now but want to order a new belt for it.
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Post# 24119-11/12/2002-20:59 ||| Pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT: I-18, What's a "non-solid" tub?
MESSAGE: I have a 1978 or 9? Poppy Frigidare Jetwash up and down and I don't know if it is a non-solid tub or solid tub, or what the difference is, as I am a neophite in the washerphile collector pool of experts.
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Post# 24120-11/12/2002-21:12 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: New Maytag Atlantis (1-18 ?)
MESSAGE: Hi Z,
I never remember the WCI Frigidaire ever having a window lid.
But actually when it all began in January 1981 all the appliance stores I went to had very few of those dreadful things on display. I remember 1 salesperson having a heated discussion on the phone with a WCI rep. The rep told him he was supposed to tell people that their new Tri Action washer washed just as well as the Jet Action 1/18 did. The sales person said he would do no such thing and indicated it was garbage and they already had a Westinghouse TL - so what the hell did they need this garbage for
Peter
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Post# 24121-11/12/2002-21:14 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18 (78 or earlier)
MESSAGE: My Aunt had a 1974 Poppy 1/18 matching washer and dryer
(my favorate washer of all time)
Peter
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Post# 24122-11/12/2002-21:36 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: I-18, What's a "non-solid" tub?
MESSAGE: Welcome - that's why we're all here, to share and learn. We talked about a FAQ page at one time, but haven't gotten that done yet.
A solid tub (or solid basket) washer is one that has only holes around the top of the tub. It is filled with water for washing and the water is literally spun out of the tub and splashes into a much larger,stationary outer tub where it is drained away. This design allows for "overflow" washing and rinsing which is simply overfilling the tub during agitation until water is flowing out of the drain holes at the top, carrying away dirt and scum with it.
A perforated basket washer (or non-solid) is a simply a clothes basket with holes inside of a slightly larger tub. The entire unit is submerged in water and water is drained out through the holes and the bottom of the tub either with a neutral draining period or a "spin drain" when the clothes basket is revolving while draining.
Some washer tubs are confusing, they may look like perforated basket washers, but in fact are solid tub machines with perforated liners that are bolted to the actual solid tub. 1949-57'ish Maytag AMP style and '47-48 Frigidaire washers are two examples of this type. The link is to a picture of the early Frigidaire tub
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/multimatic850/vwp?.dir=/Very+First+Frigidaire+Washer+1947&.src=ph&.dnm=Fills+Between+the+Tubs.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/multimatic850/lst%3f%26.dir=/Very%2bFirst%2bFrigidaire%2bWasher%2b1947%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 24123-11/12/2002-21:37 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: 1/18 Dream Machine!
MESSAGE: I am sweating right now, someone has just offered me a free working order poppy 1/18! I don't know what to do! There is one catch, they want a front-loader in exchange, but all that I have got is a Kenmore Portable. What do I do? How do I convince my mom? Help! A dream machine is on the line here!
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Post# 24124-11/12/2002-22:42 ||| Chopper (Michigan City, Indiana)
SUBJECT: 1948 Dormeyer Power Chef Model 4000 stand mixer
MESSAGE: Hello everyone! My wife and I recently won an old mixer at a farm auction. It seems to work great, except that it's missing it's bowl and beaters. Does anyone have any ideas as to where these items may be found?
Best regards,
The Hamann's
my wife Eve's first starter website link below:
LINK: http://www.evescustomcrafts.com
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Post# 24125-11/12/2002-22:57 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: Cool Hoover on Ebay
MESSAGE: Hi Everyone I have been busy so I havent posated for a while but I really enjoyed watching Jasons convention video. Thanx!
Anyway check outt his really cool Hoover on Ebay. I would definately buy it if it was available in Australia.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2071214895
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Post# 24126-11/12/2002-23:47 ||| Pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: 1/18 Dream Machine! (My Poppy I-I8)
MESSAGE: I would let it go for maybe a Maytag Neptune front loader.
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Post# 24127-11/12/2002-23:49 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Speed Wash (Speed Queen)
MESSAGE: Greg, I figured that was a SQ washer--given I've seen pics of your washer and knew that tyhat emblem on the front didn't match the WO65 emblems.
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Post# 24128-11/12/2002-23:53 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New Maytag Atlantis (1-18 ?)
MESSAGE: Yes Stefgve, Frigidaire only offered Poppy. It never caught on with the other manufacturers.
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Post# 24129-11/12/2002-23:55 ||| Pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18 (78 or earlier)
MESSAGE: I am not sure what year I inherited, but it is Poppy Red, with all of the features and the multilple water level switch with the graphic that shows the level as compared to the Jet Cone Agitator.
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Post# 24130-11/12/2002-23:59 ||| Pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: 1/18 Dream Machine! (Who said Free?)
MESSAGE: It was "I would consider a trade" Nothing is free, but nice people can negotiate. Perhaps a used front loading Maytag?
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Post# 24131-11/13/2002-00:07 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New Maytag Atlantis (1-18 ?)
MESSAGE: zzzz, the 47-49 Frigidaires with the perforated tubs were actually still a solid tub, as were the Maytag AP washers with the perf tubs.
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Post# 24132-11/13/2002-04:22 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: 1948 Dormeyer Power Chef Model 4000 stand mixer (WACEM)
MESSAGE: Hi,
There is a group especially for mixers called Wacem (We Actually Collect Electric Mixers). Follow the link and you will get there.
Louis
LINK: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WACEM/
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Post# 24133-11/13/2002-04:58 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: Todays POD Speed Queen
MESSAGE: Definately Quality Speed Queen!!!
Chick aint half bad either! Much better than that scary looking Frigidaire Queen (who really reminds my of our scary primary school librarian) , Speed Queen for me!
Arrrooohhh indeed!!
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Post# 24134-11/13/2002-05:02 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: New Maytag Atlantis
MESSAGE: Hi Joshie!
I am so sad that Maytag has dropped push buttons from their line up. Now everyone has either knobs or electronic touch controls and all of them looking the same.
Fortunately in Aus we still will have the push buttons Atlantis for a while I wonder when the new one will make it to our shores, Was there any other changes other than the dails?
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Post# 24135-11/13/2002-06:10 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: CONVENTION VIDEO PART II
MESSAGE: That video was absolutely awesome, Jason. Makes me even sorrier that I was not able to attend the convention this year.
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Post# 24136-11/13/2002-06:38 ||| Dick_S. (Palm Springs vicinity)
SUBJECT: RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18 (78 or earlier)
MESSAGE: ph-
Thanks for the info and the offer. I can't wait to give it a good cleaning and polishing and run my first load!
Dick
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Post# 24137-11/13/2002-06:40 ||| Dick_S. (Palm Springs vicinity)
SUBJECT: RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18
MESSAGE: I believe it is also and can't wait to truck it home.
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Post# 24138-11/13/2002-06:48 ||| Dick_S. (Palm Springs vicinity)
SUBJECT: RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18 (pulsator cap search goes on and on and on . . .)
MESSAGE: Ken,
It took me three days to track down this certain individual who came up with the parts for my 118. I asked him about your pulsator cap. He didn't have one. I am sincere when I say that I will keep looking for you.
Dick
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Post# 24139-11/13/2002-07:02 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: SPEED QUEEN PIC-OF-THE-DAY
MESSAGE: That is such a great ad! And what a beauty! (washer)Anyone know what year / year's these were made?
There are several mats here in Atlanta that still have this machine running! They must have been very well built! I am sure that the owners have really made a profit off of them!
When I was home in Louisiana several months ago, I stopped by a Speed Queen laundry center that I remembered from my childhood. I was so shocked when I walked in, and all of the Speed Queen machines that I remembered from my childhood was still there, and up and running! They had about 15 of the front loaders in the POD. And about 20 of the solid basket SQ top loaders. They had two of the SQ Dry Cleaning machines. The owner was there and we talked about his mat. He said that his Dry Cleaning machines never worked correct, and he stopped them in the 60's because he was afraid that someone would get hurt by them! He did not have the heart to get rid of them because he said he loved the novelty of the machines. He loved his SQ's, and said that he would do anything that he could to keep them up and running! It was so nice to hear someone say that! There were about 5 of the top loaders running, and two of the front loaders running while I was there. It was such a cool sound. Somewhat loud, but pleasing all the same!
Of course I gave him my number, and said that if he ever decided to get rid of the machines, or close the shop, (he was about 70 in age) to give me a call. He was very happy that I did give him my number, and could not believe that there was a club for vintage machines.
He did not know what the internet was!
Brent
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Post# 24140-11/13/2002-07:06 ||| Dick_S. (Palm Springs vicinity)
SUBJECT: RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18 (78 or earlier)
MESSAGE: I'll jot down that info next time I visit the 118 and post it for you. Dick
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Post# 24141-11/13/2002-07:19 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: SPEED QUEEN PIC-OF-THE-DAY (WHERE????)
MESSAGE: Dude, where is this laundromat? I'll have to go check it out. The laundromat that I grew up around still has the same Milnor front loader from when I was a kid. Just as fun to watch today.
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Post# 24142-11/13/2002-07:30 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: SPEED QUEEN PIC-OF-THE-DAY (WHERE????)
MESSAGE: Hello Jason,
Morgan City
Brent
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Post# 24143-11/13/2002-09:28 ||| Frigilux (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: Brent Visits Vintage Laundromat
MESSAGE: Brent---what a great story! I can't believe those machines are still running. I wonder if the owner would be surprised if people from the web group started showing up to take video/pics?
Mostly, though, I love it that there are people who don't know about the internet. That is too cool.
Question: I've never seen a Frigidaire coin-op with an agitator cover. Did they not use one or were they all lost over time? Was the Jet Action diminished by the water shooting out the top of the open agitator, rather than being forced out the side openings into the submerged clothes?
And where is our beloved Uni lately? Has he gone undercover? Come to think of it, has anyone ever seen Uni Robert and Gansky in a room at the same time?! ;)
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Post# 24144-11/13/2002-09:39 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18 (78 or earlier)
MESSAGE: WC-6G probably. There are so many WC-6's around. The real gems are the WIA's, the WCI's and the ever ellusive WEG.
-ph
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Post# 24145-11/13/2002-09:42 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18 (1-18 belts)
MESSAGE: Changing the belt is a pretty major ordeal on 1-18's. If it is not slipping and you get good agitation and spinning, I'd order the new belt and just keep it on hand.
-ph
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Post# 24146-11/13/2002-09:46 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: SPEED QUEEN PIC-OF-THE-DAY (Super 20's)
MESSAGE: The only thing about these Super20's is that there are only 2 lifting vanes on the tub. Because the tub is stainless, the clothes just slide on the tub until a vane comes along and turns the load over. Give a whole new meaning to "lift and fall". It also has a pause and redistribute routine during the last spin.
Store owners love these machines and really do anything to keep them going.
-ph
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Post# 24147-11/13/2002-09:47 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Brent Visits Vintage Laundromat
MESSAGE: nt
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/vwp?.dir=/2002+Convention+and+Holidays&.dnm=Washerboys.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 24148-11/13/2002-09:52 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Brent Visits Vintage Laundromat
MESSAGE: Hi Frigilux. No I haven't gone undercover and yes I have seen both Greg and myself in the same room at the same time :).
I have recieved a big promotion at work, but its going to keep me very busy for the next few months, so I wont have much time for the club during the day. I have to learn a whole new computer programming language and at the same time I'm part of a big system reconfig team. In the evenings I've been so tired that I don't feel like being on the computer.
I'm still around and do look occassionally, just taking a bit of a needed break while I'm concentrating hard on something else for a bit.
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Post# 24149-11/13/2002-09:53 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: SPEED QUEEN PIC-OF-THE-DAY
MESSAGE: Brent,
What a cool story about the laundromat in Louisiana. We should save that one. Overhere in Europe laundromats seem to come back again. In Germany there is even a kind of pub where you can do your laundry. What would a laundromat have to cost at the moment? And can you make a living out of one?
Louis
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Post# 24150-11/13/2002-12:22 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: SPEED QUEEN PIC-OF-THE-DAY
MESSAGE: Brent-Aucoin:
I have also checked out the Speed Queen F/L Commercial Washer that is featured in today's POD. And while I don't know EXACTLY the years these were made, I do know that their are several laundromats around here in the Washington, D. C. area in which these machines are still in use. So then, in my estimation, I guess this machine is anywhere from 20-25 years old. I don't know that for certain though. Maybe we need to ask some of these "coin" laundry experts right here in "Classic Appliances", eh????
But in whatever case, the lady in the picture isn't bad looking either. Damn..... maybe I just met my new wife (hehehehehehehehehe!!!!!!!). What do any of you think????
--Charles--
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Post# 24151-11/13/2002-12:22 ||| Frigilux (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: Uni Surfaces/Foraloysius
MESSAGE: Uni--- good luck with your promotion and computer language. We Minnesota boys have to look for one another---easy to get lost here in the winter! :)
Foraloysius--- I was unable to open the link on your last message. :(
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Post# 24152-11/13/2002-12:24 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: SPEED QUEEN PIC-OF-THE-DAY (WHERE????)
MESSAGE: What's the name of the place? How do I get to it? I wanna check these machines out. Thanks.
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Post# 24153-11/13/2002-13:18 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Uni Surfaces/Foraloysius
MESSAGE: Yahoo was acting up again, try again later.
Louis
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Post# 24154-11/13/2002-13:56 ||| Frigilux (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: Washerboys Picture
MESSAGE: Foraloysius--- I tried again and was able to access your link with the Washerboys picture. Great! Who is in the picture? Is this a picture that proves both Uni and Gansky have been in a room at the same time? I have not had the pleasure of attending a convention, so I don't know who everyone is.
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Post# 24155-11/13/2002-14:40 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Washerboys Picture
MESSAGE: From left to right:
Appnut
Unimatic1140
Golittlesport
Scott55405
Gansky1
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Post# 24156-11/13/2002-14:49 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Washerboys Picture
MESSAGE: From left to right: Bob (Appnut), Robert (Unimatic1140), Rich (Golittlesport), Scott (Scott55405) and Greg (Gansky1).
Is there a picture from you somewhere online?
Hope to meet you at the next convention!
Louis
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Post# 24157-11/13/2002-14:58 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Washerboys Picture
MESSAGE: I was on the phone while writing my message, it took me a while to post....
BTW, meet Glenn (Dadoes) doing a typical convention thing: Putting an arm in a washer.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/vwp?.dir=/2002+Convention+and+Holidays&.dnm=Club+habit.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 24158-11/13/2002-20:00 ||| zzzzz (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: New Maytag Atlantis (Not-so-perforated tub...)
MESSAGE: Appnut--Thanks for the insight. I saw the picture linked from post #24122, so I guess looks can be deceiving, like the bogus 1-18 I talked about earlier.
Z.
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Post# 24159-11/13/2002-20:28 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT: WO-65 Update/Advice
MESSAGE: Greg, Robert or anyone else with Unimatic experience:
I've got the new washtub installed in the basement, and the Frigidaire WO-65 washer hooked up and running, sans the agitator cap (gotta get that comment in again). Just a few questions, before I move it to its permanent spot; when the machine agitates or spins there is a tinny clatter that comes and goes. Is that the motor switch still in need of cleaning? Also noticed when I was cleaning the old oil film and dirt under the machine was the fact that the motor fan has about half an inch of free play when you try to move it around by hand before it catches and moves the tub. Is that normal? The tinny sound seems to be coming from the lower part of the motor. I thought it might be a loose fan assembly shaking around, but I'm not sure. Is that fan part alone able to be tightened up without removing it? Any comments appreciated.
Ken
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Post# 24160-11/13/2002-21:36 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Washerboys Picture (Thanks a bunch!!!)
MESSAGE: A big thank-you hug to both Jason and Bob for the convention video. You did a great job!! Sure brings back lots of good memories!! Thanks again.
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Post# 24161-11/13/2002-21:39 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Brent Visits Vintage Laundromat (congratulations!!)
MESSAGE: Congratulations Robert on the promotion!! I am very happy for you!!
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Post# 24162-11/13/2002-21:47 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: WO-65 Update/Advice
MESSAGE: Hi Ken - It sounds like your motor fan is loose on the motor shaft. The fan is held tight on the motor shaft by the pump impeller shaft. The only way to tighten this is to remove the cross-brace from the bottom of the cabinet, remove the pump cover and tighten the pump impeller screw. This was the (initial) problem with my WO-65. Robert and I fixed this when he was here back in January - here's a picture of the bottom of the pump.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Frigidaire+1950+WO65+%26+TR60+Filtrator&.dnm=Pump+Screw+Repair.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 24163-11/13/2002-21:50 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Washerboys Picture
MESSAGE: Howdy! 
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Post# 24164-11/13/2002-22:00 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Brent Visits Vintage Laundromat
MESSAGE: Don't work too hard, and don't forget to check for messages from the recycler!
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Post# 24165-11/13/2002-22:03 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: SPEED QUEEN PIC-OF-THE-DAY
MESSAGE: There is a laundromat in the next town over that still has three of these machines still in operation...........
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Post# 24166-11/13/2002-22:15 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: WO-65 Update/Advice
MESSAGE: Exactly right Greg. But Ken be sure to remove that pump impeller screw and put a small amount of blue Loctite (available at any hardware store) on the screw threads. Let it dry overnight before running the machine so the vibration wont loosen it.
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Post# 24167-11/13/2002-22:16 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Truly Vintage whirlpool dishwasher (pics?)
MESSAGE: sounds very interesting, are you able to post any pics of the interior and/or exterior??
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Post# 24168-11/13/2002-22:20 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: I was an inch...
MESSAGE: I was an inch from getting my 1/18 dream machine... Then someone stole it out from under me... I feel horrible...:-(
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Post# 24169-11/13/2002-22:35 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: WO-65 Update/Advice
MESSAGE: and then...;-) you'll need a new pump gasket as well, Ken. I remember my first gasket making attempt! We used rolled cork and used the pump cover for a template. Don't worry if you have to cut a few "practice" ones before getting it right! Be sure to clean off all traces of the old gasket before re-installing the cover and new gasket. If you are lucky, you'll have some new gaskets in your parts stash.
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Post# 24170-11/13/2002-23:09 ||| Jjosh (Phoenix, AZ)
SUBJECT: RE: New Maytag Atlantis (Newest Atlantis)
MESSAGE: Hi too Arrrooohhh, Yes, I just saw the newest release of the latest Maytag Atlantis t/l washer. It really does look beautiful, I must say. The vertically placed mechanical series pushbuttons unfortunately have been eliminated. I also like the 'old style' push button models becomming more and more rare these days. However, the new Atlantis has utilized a very unique type of rotary switch. It remindes me more or less of a 'lever' style rotary switch...somewhat retro or art deco looking. The switches are elongated and metallic in color. The medallion on the lid has also changed to appear more 'retro' (horizontally elongated medallion). The console now takes on a somewhat curved shape...very similiar the the latest Frigidaire t/l's. Finally, it appears that the agitator has undergone some very moderate configuration changes. The flex-fins now sport a ridge design which matches the ridge design of the f/l Neptune's drum vanes. Also the 'micro-vanes' between the flex-fins now appear to have a 'stepped' appearance. Other than these cosmetic changes, Im not sure, if any, mechanical changes have been made. Please post if there is more info. available....
Jjosh
LINK: http://
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Post# 24171-11/13/2002-23:10 ||| Jjosh (Phoenix, AZ)
SUBJECT: Sorry about the Link
MESSAGE: Im new, so I dont know how to post a link. I did'nt mean to place the 'link' site in my message!
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Post# 24172-11/14/2002-00:01 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: The Kenmore Agitator (Is that a Thin Twin?!)
MESSAGE: Hi Pulsator,
Yep thats a thin twin, i'd have to move that little monster over to the outlet to run it so i took some pictures of it as it is and i also took a picture of a 24 inch washer washing which is the same as the thin twin except the thin twins tub isn't as deep. The 24 incher is under my washers and the thin twins in its own album. Enjoy!
~Steven
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/washerstuff
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Post# 24173-11/14/2002-00:09 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Brent Visits Vintage Laundromat
MESSAGE: Wow!!! I knew I was in the presence of esteemed company, but I didn't know THAT esteemed.
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Post# 24174-11/14/2002-07:05 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Brent Visits Vintage Laundromat (Uni and Gansky in 1 room...)
MESSAGE: Remember the old story about how there are only a couple of people who know the true formula for Coca-cola, and they are never allowed in the one room together, in case some something should happen to them and the knowledge they share would be lost...
Maybe with their intimate knowledge of the darkest innermost secrets of the Unimatic mechanism, for posterity we may have to introduce the same rule for Uni and Gansky... ;)
Best Wishes
Chris
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Post# 24175-11/14/2002-07:18 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Brent Visits Vintage Laundromat (Uni and Gansky in 1 room...)
MESSAGE: Oh no - not me! Robert and Jon Charles maybe, I'm just beginning my unimatic career experience!
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Post# 24176-11/14/2002-11:10 ||| Gwleong (California)
SUBJECT: Vintage Admiral Refrigerator
MESSAGE:
I have an old Admiral refrigerator that I want to get rid of but I was told there might be some interest in the unit. It was bought new by my parents in the mid 50's and has been plugged in and running pretty much continuously since then. Believe it or not, it still works as new!! It is cosmetically perfect for it's age, slight crack in the plastic interior, but still hold the temperature fine.
The exterior has not been dented or scratched.
I really hate to part with it but I need the space. It's truly a nice looking piece....like an old car...white with lots of chrome trim. I can get the model number if necessary. This is a single door unit with an 'internal' freezer door.
Please let me know if anyone is interested.
Thanks!
Gary
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Post# 24177-11/14/2002-13:56 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Admiral Refrigerator
MESSAGE: Hi Gary,
I wish I was closer, I would love to check it out, but I am in MAss. Have you thought of putting it on ebay? or there are a couple websites that may be able to help you out, one being...
www.antiqueappliances.com
they restore stoves and frigs and are always looking for used.
or ... www.theoldapplianceclub.com ....
they are always looking for old, used appliances, and/or you could place a for sale ad in either one.........., but if you want to sell it, taking some pics and putting it out on ebay might be the best way in my opinion, good luck.........
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Post# 24178-11/14/2002-16:34 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: WO-65 Update/Advice (follow-up)
MESSAGE: Greg/Robert:
Thanks for your response. May I conclude that there should be NO free play in the fan before it turns the tub?
Hope to get the repair this weekend. Is it unlikely that part of the fan blade/assembly is worn out and not tightenable? What's the collective experience with this repair? I suppose I'll find out when I open it.
P.S. I carefully removed the pulsator/agitator to check the bellows before running the machine again. It looks great. Either it was a very high quality rubber that's lasted fifty years (unlikely), or it has at some point been replaced. Incredibly, there are no cuts, cracks or signs of age on it.
Also, to Robert: Good luck with your new position or promotion!
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Post# 24179-11/14/2002-23:09 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: WO-65 Update/Advice (follow-up)
MESSAGE: Hi Ken - You could have a worn out fan blade, but more likely, the pump screw just needs to be tightened. Try this first, there should be little or no up and down wobble in the fan blade if it's being held tight by the pump shaft. I ended up taking mine apart several times for various reasons and need to once again to replace the pump seal now, just as soon as I find one!
Good luck, we should be around this weekend so call if you need anything - it's a relatively simple part of the unimatic so it should go well.
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Post# 24180-11/14/2002-23:10 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: I was an inch...
MESSAGE: Don't worry Jamie - your 1-18 day will come.
;-)
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Post# 24181-11/15/2002-06:40 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: GREAT AUNT KENMORE'S UPPER SPIN BEARING
MESSAGE: It started with a cricket leg, actually. My '53 Kenmore started spewing water sidewards, out between the top and the side of the cabinet. Fortunately, I was right there when it happened so I stopped filling and removed the top of the washer to find a cricket leg laying on the screen between the stream of water and the washtub,,,,and this leg was the perfect diverter for the water - I was sure I had blown a hose to the fill flume - but, sure enough, cricket leg.
Yesterday, after two loads of laundry, I removed the agitator (so it will dry, and to wipe clean the spin tube, like my Grandmother taught me to do) and I noticed a rather high ambient temperature near the spanner nut area...so this morning I have taken the old girl apart for upper bearing lubrication....there will be pictures if anyone is interested in seeing inside a 50 year old kenmore....I did have this apart about 12 years ago, so it came apart like a sweetheart this time....There's nothing like a good, deep internal lubrication to get your day started off right.
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Post# 24182-11/15/2002-07:21 ||| Rickpro (Ransomville NY)
SUBJECT: GE Electric Stove
MESSAGE: We have a Vintage 1946? GE elecrtic stove that has CLOROX surface elements that need replaced they are 7-1/2" across and 5 -3/4" IF ANYONE CAN HELP PLEASE CONTACT ME. thank you.
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Post# 24183-11/15/2002-08:25 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Electric Stove
MESSAGE: Chromalox?
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Post# 24184-11/15/2002-09:10 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Electric Stove (chromalox oracles)
MESSAGE: I wonder if the gas oracles need replacing too...just kidding, of course...
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Post# 24185-11/15/2002-11:27 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Electric Stove (chromalox oracles COROX ELEMENTS - details..)
MESSAGE: I think the guy means to say COROX, of course, and many of you fellows who strip electric ranges likely have just what they need on the shelf....
Is the burner a two or a three wire element, and is it controlled by pushbuttons, rotary type infinite switch, or perhaps the 5 or 7 position heat switch...Also need to know if it's a 6 or an 8 inch burner....I'll bet John LeFever has one..most certainly he does....is there anyone more likely to have one than John?
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Post# 24186-11/15/2002-11:31 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Electric Stove
MESSAGE: it might be "calrod"
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Post# 24187-11/15/2002-14:46 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Electric Stove (calrod or corox)
MESSAGE: True, it would have to be a Westinghouse range to be a Corox burner, unless someone put westinghouse elements into a Ge Range, which would have had Calrod burners.....
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Post# 24188-11/15/2002-15:23 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: NEARLY ALL BACK TOGETHER NOW
MESSAGE: Inner tub is all back in now, but I'm gonna let a little rustoleum dry a spell while I go to the gym...I've taken about 50 pictures...everything's looking swell for the old girl to be running later tonight...
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Post# 24189-11/15/2002-15:37 ||| Kittynoir (Austin TX)
SUBJECT: Any Kenmore gas stove renovators in Texas??
MESSAGE: Hi I just joined
We have a 1940's or 1950's Kenmore gas stove that we would dearly love to find someone to fix up
we live in Austin
great looking group!
thanks!
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Post# 24190-11/15/2002-16:05 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: NEARLY ALL BACK TOGETHER NOW
MESSAGE: A-n-t-i-c-i-p-a-t-i-o-n
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Post# 24191-11/15/2002-17:24 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Electric Stove
MESSAGE: Rickpro, there is a large appliance parts distributor in Buffalo across from the main post office on William Street. I'll bet they would be able to help you. The name of the concern is "Appliance Parts Distributors" or APD. You probably would want to take the failed elements with you, so they can be matched.
Have fun....Leslie
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Post# 24192-11/15/2002-18:02 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: Balanced load
MESSAGE: Yeah, yeah, I know my question is about a new machine, but I know someone out there has got the answer.
I watched my Equator 3600cee balance ?, distribute? load before a spin and realized it does it differently each time depending on load. How does it know when load is at optimum balance point? Did the vintage units do this also?
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Post# 24193-11/15/2002-18:09 ||| Jille (los angeles)
SUBJECT: Pink GE Stove
MESSAGE: My grandmother bought a condo which has a really cool
pale pink GE stove. We have heard that the GE stove in
this color was only available in Miami, FL. (which is
where she is living.) Does anyone have any info?
Thanks! :)
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Post# 24194-11/15/2002-19:52 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: WO-65 Update/Advice (final follow-up )
MESSAGE: Greg, the reason I was trying to reclarify the status of the possibly loose fan to you, is that there is little or NO UP and DOWN wobble in the fan blade. As I said there is about a half of inch of free play in the blade (BACK AND FORTH) before it catches and turns the tub. It still sounds clattery like loose metal nonetheless. When you turn the fan, it's something like free play backpedaling in a multi-speed bicycle before the gear catches and turns the wheel. Is THAT OK? I don't want to start to take it apart for the wrong reason. Final question on this subject for now, I promise. If I get into the repair on Sunday and have more questions, I'll give you a call.
P.S. Other than the cork gasket, will other parts be reusable, I hope. I'll remove them very carefully. Also I noticed you had your machine face-front down. Any advantage to that? I was still going to tip it opposite the timer to avoid oil spillage, but I suppose your way will be OK too.
Anyway, back to the initial point in this post. Based on only the back and forth loose motion in the fan, should I still go ahead and take it apart? What do you think?
Ken
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Post# 24195-11/15/2002-21:27 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: GEARBOX DATED 11 15 54 - TODAY'S DATE 48 YEARS AGO!!
MESSAGE: On the 48th birthday of the gearbox, the machine gets a good lube job...The appliance Gods had something to do with that one, you can be sure.
O.K. guys. Long loading page. Lots of photos.
Enjoy.
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/KENMORE/INDEX.htm
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Post# 24196-11/15/2002-22:06 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Pink Maytag dryer for sale!
MESSAGE: " It is from the late 60's and we used to use it for a while." States the seller of this beauty. I f you can fork over $200.00, your all set!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2072351298
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Post# 24197-11/15/2002-22:24 ||| pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT: I-18 Frigidaire Jetcone
MESSAGE: Does the model number WCDT mean anything? It is on the back of my machine. I have tried to enter it into parts catalogs and the Frigidaire Support site to get an owners manual and I have come up empty. I did get postive response for WC-6G, which is close to looking like my model, but not quite. Mine is poppy red, with no lid window and has more options for wash/rinse temps and soak cycle than the WC-6G. Any rhyme or reason as to how Frigidaire put out model numbers?
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Post# 24198-11/15/2002-22:26 ||| pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: I was an inch...
MESSAGE: It isn't sold yet, just alot of inquires and a bid for $450.00.
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Post# 24199-11/15/2002-22:42 ||| steved (Albany, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: I-18 Frigidaire Jetcone (WCDT model)
MESSAGE: Hi, the WCDT model is prolly from 1971 or 72. W = washer, CD = Custom Deluxe and T = model year. I think they also had a WCD3T, as a followup model. The 3 was an indication of some change in the warranty terms, or such. It was the most popular model of its series, with speed, water temp and infinite water level choices. Im sure it wont come up on the Frigidaire support site cause of its age.... SteveD
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Post# 24200-11/15/2002-22:45 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: GEARBOX DATED 11 15 54 - TODAY'S DATE 48 YEARS AGO!! (Great Job Bob!!)
MESSAGE: Thanks for all the neat pictures Bob. This was a very interesting project. Hope you will post some pictures when you have her all put back together.
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Post# 24201-11/15/2002-22:50 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: GEARBOX DATED 11 15 54 - TODAY'S DATE 48 YEARS AGO!! (Buggy appliances)
MESSAGE: Well now I've heard it all, the first real bug in a computer program was indeed a real bug in a transistor, now a bug in an appliances is indeed a bug =) Great work bob that machine looks great under her hood. Its so amazing that the underneath of my 75 whirlpool is so similar to that machine, they must have made a fortune on that design and here frigidaire changed their designs alot to make their machine continually better (err up to a point when wci took em)
anyway enough yackin gotta get crackin.
~Steven
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Post# 24202-11/15/2002-23:48 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: GEARBOX DATED 11 15 54 - TODAY'S DATE 48 YEARS AGO!! (11 15 54 )
MESSAGE: After 48 years - this is Great
Best of Luck
Peter
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Post# 24203-11/15/2002-23:48 ||| chopper (Michigan City, Indiana)
SUBJECT: RE: 1948 Dormeyer Power Chef Model 4000 stand mixer (WACEM)
MESSAGE: Hey Louis! I've been there done that too! thanks!
LINK: http://www.evescustomcrafts.com
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Post# 24204-11/16/2002-00:47 ||| pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: I-18 Frigidaire Jetcone (WCDT model)
MESSAGE: Steve, thanks for the info. I just want an owners manual for this machine, and you are right, the parts deparments don't recognize it. I will try WCD3t, though. I love the machine, but it is too huge capacity for my septic tank at my summer home, and would like to trade or sell so I can get a front-loader. So far, I have been offered $450, buyer pays shipping. Well, it is in immaculate shape. I almost hate to part with it. Maybe I will trade it out with my Maytag A-107 in the city?
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Post# 24205-11/16/2002-01:44 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Balanced load
MESSAGE: On the Appliances Forum there is a thread (RE: Combo Washer / Dryers - Part 7) where issues about combos are discussed. One of the most active members (Tom) of that forum has an Equator himself. I'm sure he will be glad to help you out with your question. Click on the link and you will be taken to the Appliances Forum.
Louis
LINK: http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/appl/
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Post# 24206-11/16/2002-01:52 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: GEARBOX DATED 11 15 54 - TODAY'S DATE 48 YEARS AGO!!
MESSAGE: Wonderful job Bob. I'm impressed that you did this even without busted knockles or blood loss. Hope to see some pictures of her when she's all back together again.
Take care,
Louis
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Post# 24207-11/16/2002-08:05 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: GEARBOX DATED 11 15 54 - TODAY'S DATE 48 YEARS AGO!! (Thanks Bob!)
MESSAGE: Bob,
Great job with the photo's! You make it look so simple and fun.
Same request, can you post some pictures of her together?
Also, you mentioned that this machine was for your Grand Mother? Did she have the dryer also?
Thanks Bob!
Brent
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Post# 24208-11/16/2002-08:51 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GEARBOX DATED 11 15 54 - TODAY'S DATE 48 YEARS AGO!!
MESSAGE: What a beautiful washer Bob- it is truly in remarkable condition for it's age too! This was my grandmother's first automatic washer and dryer, she had the washer for only five years and then bought a Maytag. I'm not exactly sure why, perhaps it was just a simple cricket leg problem!
Beautiful work and thanks for the pictures!
Greg
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Post# 24209-11/16/2002-08:57 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: Great Aunt Kenmore thanks you all! (well, most of you)
MESSAGE: This morning Great Aunt kenmore tells me she feels just like an internet celebrity, and she wishes me to thank you all for your interest.
As far as shots of the old girl all back together, well, that IS all back together , except for the top, which really doesn't bear any electrical functions, and is just a dust cover, really , for what you see there underneath....This week I'll be painting the floor, so I'm leaving the top off a minute so I can move the old girl more easily around the room myself...
O.K. men.. Keep those machines running properly, and be sure to fix 'em up right away when they're not.. Sitting idle is one of the worst things for a vintage washer....they dry up and get stuck.....it's better to use your machines lightly, but regularly, to maintain their operation.
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Post# 24210-11/16/2002-08:58 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: WO-65 Update/Advice (final follow-up )
MESSAGE: Hi Ken -
There shouldn't be any play in that fan - the pump screw needs to be tighted to stop the noise.
We had the machine lying on it's front because we were changing the oil at the same time so don't worry about that right now, just tip it on it's left side (from the front) to keep the vent tube from leaking oil.
Greg
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Post# 24211-11/16/2002-09:09 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Pink GE Stove
MESSAGE: "Petal Pink" was GE's version of the color popularized in part by the color of a dress worn by Mamie Eisenhower to Ike's swearing in as the 34th President of the US in January, 1953. Pink, turquoise and bright yellow were very popular throughout the 1950's and early 1960's and were available nationwide from most appliance manufacturers.
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Post# 24212-11/16/2002-11:03 ||| chicapplis (illinois)
SUBJECT: Maytag help
MESSAGE: What a busy week collecting. Amongst the items found was a mdl #A606 Maytag washer which doesn't seem to have leaked any oil but does not seem to spin very fast. The motor seems alright It functions in either speed. Could the belt be slipping?
Was this made around 1970?
Is there some way of determining year of manufacture from the model # tags on Maytag?
Also I found a mdl #GA512 from I assume the early 1980's since the control panel is flat. Its Harvest gold, what a find. In good condition but when I leaned it on its side to slide it into my vehicle and bring home it was discovered that it has leaked oil in a major way. Not just from below. That is like my only complaint about Maytag-when they leak, they make a mess. At least GE and Whirlpool when they leak there is a good chance it will be contained or spun out onto the side walls. I have never taken apart a Maytag transmission. And there is a warning label about being spring loaded. How difficult is it to repair a maytag transmission?
I was wondering when Maytag changed from the bi-angle control panel of the late 60's and early 70's to the flat panel.
Among other dated periodicals a GE Freezer manual was found dating to 1948, at least it reads "Rev. 3-48". The manual tells how to prepare and cook with your new GE chest freezer. There is a picture of a old GE freezer on the front, in B&W, with small elves or children or something running around with food items to put in the appliance. Inside there are pictures of "classic", as the term may be used, GE appliances in use as well as other 1940's fashions and techniques. The book doesn't really serve me, but I thought it might be of interest to someone here. Let me know.
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Post# 24213-11/16/2002-11:41 ||| appliguy (Vienna Va.)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag help (Maytag control panels)
MESSAGE: If I understand your descriptions properly, Maytag went from the bi angle control panel with the cycle dial in the middle to the flat panel with the cycle dial at the right in 1981. The Bi angle panel first made its debut in 1967. Harvest gold was offered as late as the mid 1980's (circa 1984) by alot of manufactures so I do believe your assesment of the GA512 would be correct
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Post# 24214-11/16/2002-11:46 ||| joeekaitis (Rialto, California, USA)
SUBJECT: Saturday, November 17, 2002 Picture of the Day
MESSAGE: Yeah! Yeah! More pictures of women who do their laundry in white go-go dresses and patent-leather heels!! :)
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Post# 24215-11/16/2002-12:38 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Saturday, November 17, 2002 Picture of the Day
MESSAGE: I don't know about that as a possibility. I think she might have been the ONLY one who did laundry like that.........
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Post# 24216-11/16/2002-18:54 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Saturday, November 17, 2002 Picture of the Day
MESSAGE: I don't know, but mayhbe being a go-go dancer and the heels helped knock out the dirt in the laundry quicker!!!! Or helped you dance through laundry day much faster.
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Post# 24217-11/16/2002-20:25 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Saturday, November 17, 2002 Picture of the Day
MESSAGE: She sure is goovy, man. But what's with that kitchen placement? She must not have had any dorothies handy to design in a nice laundry closet. Poor thing!
Or is that her upscale laundry room, complete with sink and cabinets for hand washables? Too bad she couldn't afford a matching dryer! She may have spent all her extra cash on shoes!
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Post# 24218-11/16/2002-20:43 ||| chicapplis (illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Saturday, November 17, 2002 Picture of the Day
MESSAGE: i like it, Its very 70's. love the laminate countertop.
What I didn't get was the pic from a couple of days ago where a woman was standing behind a commercial washer with a Williamsburg chandelier hanging from the right upper frame. Was this in her dining room in Connecticut or what. And who were they selling too?
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Post# 24219-11/17/2002-07:11 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: GREAT AUNT KENMORE'S UPPER SPIN BEARING (cricket leg)
MESSAGE: HI IMPERIALBOB,
How big was the cricket leg? The ones we get here would barely be able to make any difference to the flow. How big are crickets where you are???
I loved the photos. The solid transmission pulley - is that normal on newer models in the USA? The sixties and seventies ones made here in Aus had a cast aluminium pulley with (I think) five spokes. I am wondering if that is an old/new difference, or an Aus/USA difference?
That's a lovely old machine you have there, you must be very proud of it.
Best Wishes
Chris
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Post# 24220-11/17/2002-07:31 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Balanced load
MESSAGE: Hi Comboboy.
I can't help with specific info on your Equator, but there are two main ways that microprocessor controlled machines detect balanced/imbalanced loads - 1. Pendulum switch. A pendulum is mounted on the outer drum assembly. If when starting to spin the pendulum swings enough to trigger a microswitch next to it, the processor interprests this as unbalanced and tries again to distribute the load. 2. Motor monitoring. The motor is given a short burst of power, after which the processor monitors the behaviour of the motor as it coasts to rest again (either with an external tacho coil, or monitoring back-EMF pulses from the motor's own windings). If the motor turns in uneven bursts, and quickly stops, it is unbalanced. > machine tries to redistribute. If the motor coasts evenly and slows down at a moderate rate, it is balanced and continues into spin.
Most older front loaders have no unbalance detection. They rely on the ability of their suspension to absorb any unbalance. Some are much better than others at this. Some only had two speeds (tumble and spin) so relied on the tumble speed to distribute the load, which can be a bit erratic. Others had a specific "distribute" speed, about 100 rpm, which was better at throwing clothes evenly around the drum.
The Hoover Keymatic of the 1960's had only two speeds, but unusually did have an out of balance shut off - a lever inside connected to the main on-off switch protruded near the drum, so if the drum got off balance, the machine would turn off - you would actually see the red rocker switch flick over to "off" by itself. Re-starting was a matter of pressing the rocker back to on, and the motor would have to accelerate from rest to full spin speed with no distribute phase the second time, which put a huge strain on the motor. Fortunately Keymatics were cable suspended, and had a vey forgiving suspension, so only rarely got out of balance.
Chris.
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Post# 24221-11/17/2002-08:44 ||| cleanteamofny (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: Maytag (POD)
MESSAGE: The Maytag laundry girl looks so much like Reese Witherspoon.
She is legally blonde and always in fashion!
LINK: http://www.mgm.com/legallyblonde/
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Post# 24222-11/17/2002-09:01 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: ANOTHER BUG IN THE WORKS!~
MESSAGE: Cold water failed to close completely on Great Aunt Kenmore and caused a lazy stream to trickle over the side of the tub and wet the floor....good thing I still had the top off and was right there when it started happening.....Turned out to be another ugly bug, this time INSIDE the water inlet valve, between the black rubber diaphram and the sealing lips of the valve....I'll post photos later, as well as a reinactment of the cricket leg water diversion....
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Post# 24223-11/17/2002-09:20 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag (POD)
MESSAGE: Avocado green 'Tags, a fine 70s chick in a laundromat:
YEAH BABY!!!!
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Post# 24224-11/17/2002-09:23 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: ANOTHER BUG IN THE WORKS!~ (poor girl)
MESSAGE: Well, good thing you fixed her. Those early Kenmores are so interesting. They look so "primitive" compared to the later model belt drive Kenmores. The filler and the water level ball is different, but very cool.
Do those early machines make that cool "Grrrrind-click-clunk" like the later models?
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Post# 24225-11/17/2002-10:00 ||| chicapplis (illinois)
SUBJECT: blue mid 60s lady kenmore
MESSAGE: I don't know if anyone is interested but I saw a 60s blue Lady Kenmore dryer at a dealer that was in quite good condition. I know that he has had it for over a year. Its in the Milwaukee, WI area. E me if your interested I can give more details.
Love the Pic of Day. God Avacodo, I have yet to find Avacodo anything other than tupperware. love Vintage 70s'(& 80's)
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Post# 24226-11/17/2002-10:26 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: blue mid 60s lady kenmore (WOOHOO)
MESSAGE: Now you're talkin'. 60s and 70s design is my favorite also. I love gold and copper but avocado rules. I know lots of people hate avocado but I think it's just gr00vy baby.
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Post# 24227-11/17/2002-12:24 ||| chicapplis (illinois)
SUBJECT: watch what you say about crickets !
MESSAGE: I have pet tree frogs that live in my ficus trees(in a terrarium) and they eat live crickets (or crickis, as I call them) Although they are food, each batch has its own unique characteristic. They are family- for a while. Besides, I don't think I have ever seen a crick leg in an appli. i have seen elephant ear parts though. oy, what a mess that can make when it gets into a condenser fan.
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Post# 24228-11/17/2002-12:29 ||| chicapplis (illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: blue mid 60s lady kenmore (WOOHOO)
MESSAGE: yeh, but U live in Loisiana, Are you going to drive up here to get it. It snowed here last night, first this season. I could buy it and ship it. Do you want a picture?
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Post# 24229-11/17/2002-12:40 ||| chicapplis (illinois)
SUBJECT: This excitement is for everyone.
MESSAGE: I got today a batch of 80's vacuums electrolux, & kenmmore. Only 9 canisters, but 26 powerheads. For a petty amount. Dream situation a guy looking to liquidate or sell his business, and of course move to Arizona. Nice guy though. We went into his wharehouse in back and there sits all these machines. Canisters but mainly uprights. I'm only interested in canisters. Now I know that everyone in here has interests and is pursuing different "vintages"-styles, ages, colors, manufactures, and so forth. But the joy of finding that seemingly illusive ideal is universal, it just gives you this tickle from just below your heart, you know. So I share that joyess feeling with everyone, that you too will find that what makes you happy.
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Post# 24230-11/17/2002-19:08 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: BUGS!
MESSAGE: Here's a couple of photos showing the beetle bug that crawled into the water inlet valve of Great Aunt Kenmore...as well as an excellent example of open dating on appliance parts, and even a re-inactment of the cricket leg on the inlet screen scenario......
for your enjoyment.
PEACE.
BOB
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/VALVE/INDEX.htm
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Post# 24231-11/17/2002-19:51 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag (POD)
MESSAGE: THAT was the EXACT wasaher & color I had in my freshman dorm's laundry area in fall, 1973, at UT Austin. New dorm, it opened late 1969 or 1970.
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Post# 24232-11/17/2002-20:24 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: BUGS!
MESSAGE: Bob, ya'll seem to grow big ole crickets up there! I'd be afraid something with a leg like that could carry the cats away!
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Post# 24233-11/17/2002-22:34 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: blue mid 60s lady kenmore (WOOHOO)
MESSAGE: Jason, I don't remember if you ever said, but was your Mom's Kenmore 800 avacado?
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Post# 24234-11/18/2002-06:50 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: blue mid 60s lady kenmore (WOOHOO)
MESSAGE: No. It was white. But I'd take a Kenmore 800 in any color.
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Post# 24235-11/18/2002-06:52 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: POD - my grandma's dryer
MESSAGE: My grandma had the dryer in the POD until about 1978 when she got a lady Kenmore dryer. The dryer had rotary controls but it's electronic. It's not a "timer" it's more like a selector. The dryer is still running today. I wish that 60s Kenmore 70 series washer was still there.
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Post# 24236-11/18/2002-07:47 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - my grandma's dryer (SELECTOR, NOT A DIAL)
MESSAGE: The Gas dryer I use for the bulk of my drying is one of those Electronic models with the dial...It's my newest 'vintage' machine, at only 35 years of age, it still features spark ignition (as opposed to glow ignitors) and has a full console light as well as interior light, and hamper door. Dryness is determined by counting the number of times static discharges against an electronic sensor pad, located on the rear bulkhead of the dryer. In other words, this dryer thinks for itself, and eliminates all guesswork regarding length of drying time. This dryer also features soft heat, which means the actual size of the flame will change depending upon the demands of the heat load....towards the end of the drying process, the flame will actually reduce in size and power so as not to overdry permanent press items.....
This is no Norge Timeline dryer, that's for sure.
Also, the trick to changing the lint filter on a whirlpool/kenmore type dryer is to do it with the machine RUNNING ...this causes a strong down draft near the filter opening which can be used to 'vacuum' the lint away from the top by gently influencing the lint towards the opening by blowing...with your lips...then replace the filter, close the door, and there's no lint anywhere.
In a GE or a westinghouse dryer, the lint screen is in the door opening, and even when the filter is removed(where possible), some lint always remains in the door opening, right where you drag your clean clothes across removing them...sure to pick up the lint.
I much prefer the top mounted lint screen. There is never lint build up in the door opening.
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/CONTROL/INDEX.htm
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Post# 24237-11/18/2002-08:11 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - my grandma's dryer (SELECTOR, NOT A DIAL)
MESSAGE: Bob,
Interesting dryer setup. I have never seen the "static discharge" sensor system before. Do you feel it is better/worse than the "moisture" sensors more typical today? Would using dryer sheets (softner), or any softner, effect the sensor? Would there be any chance of damage from loose change or other metallic stuff bouncing off sensor?
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Post# 24238-11/18/2002-08:31 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - my grandma's dryer (STATIC SENSOR)
MESSAGE: The moisture sensors of more modern work exactly the same way.....not by feeling moisture, per say, but by feeling the number of times static discharges against a sensor....
Oh my goodness, it's againt the law to use dryer sheets, so I wouldn't think of using them in my dryer, but I did grow up using them in a 68 Lady Kenmore dryer (avacado), and they did not seem to affect the dryer's operation at all. Mom still has that dryer...Mom's 75 and the dryer is NEARLY half that.....
The problem with dryer sheets is that they deposit a sticky substance all over the inside of the dryer, which eventually builds up on the lint screen ( in a nearly imperceptible manner) and slows down the air flow...the same stickyness causes lint to build up inside the vent more quickly.
Liquid fabric softener is the way to go, as you also get the added benefit of superior rinsing. It also does a better job of 'lubricating' the fabric, which decreases wear & tear, and will never cause a problem with the dryer.
Of course, this is only my Opinion, based on learning gathered in the service field from thousands of house wives' experience, not just my own.
BOB
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Post# 24239-11/18/2002-08:34 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: dryer sheets
MESSAGE: Use of dryer sheets also quickly accelerates rusting inside dryers already missing the drum coating...
Mr. Garrison says...
'Dryer sheets are bad, mmmkay?'
BOB
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Post# 24240-11/18/2002-08:38 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag help (GE oil)
MESSAGE: I can attest that some GE's will weep oil slowly, much like a Kenmore will sometimes, but when the main oil seal blows on a GE, it is worse than the Exxon Valdes spill. Seems like gallons of that stuff is stored in that tranny and it goes everywhere, stains everything, and take a loooooong time to clean up!
-ph
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Post# 24241-11/18/2002-08:45 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: BUGS!
MESSAGE: You got to love those Camelback crickets! I have a crawlspace under the house with hurds of them in there. The ones that make it up into the house become cat toys, and then cat snacks, and I often find only the large legs lying at different places throughout the house. YUKKY!!!
-ph
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Post# 24242-11/18/2002-09:36 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - my grandma's dryer (SELECTOR, NOT A DIAL)
MESSAGE: Bob, I had the same model dryer you have. I finally used it for parts and still have the control panel if you want it.
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Post# 24243-11/18/2002-10:29 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - my grandma's dryer
MESSAGE: An aunt of mine had the top-loading version of this Westy. I never cared very much for top-loading Westys.
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Post# 24244-11/18/2002-11:34 ||| gwleong (California)
SUBJECT: Appliance Reviews
MESSAGE: Just wondering if anyone knows of a 'consumer reports'-like source for reading comparison tests on high end, commercial appliances. (i.e. Viking, Sub Zero, etc.)
Thanks.
Gary
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Post# 24245-11/18/2002-11:44 ||| Bendixman (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: dryer sheets (Dryer Sheets)
MESSAGE: Bob, I agree with you on the use of dryer sheets. I do laundry and lots of it. Over the years I have tried the dryer sheets and found that they coat the fabric and not really get into the fabric to soften them. I found that using the sheets made me itch but using liquid softener it's just fine and softens through & through. Back in 1974/75 I was using the Cling Free spray and it damaged the finish on my Whirlpool dryer. It caused it to pit and eventually rust. I ended up having to replace the drum, what a mess and unnecessary expense.
Bruce
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Post# 24246-11/18/2002-12:15 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - my grandma's dryer (Kenmore dryers)
MESSAGE: I hear ya! I have a GE dryer with the front mounted lint screen. I would love to find a 1970 Lady kenmore or Kenmore 800 dryer.
I know that spark sound well. The last time I heard the Kenmore gas dryer sound was only 2 years ago right before our 600(?) dryer almost caught on fire. I'll never forget those sounds.
You push the button and it goes:
"hummm (motor running) TICKTICKTICKTICKTICKTICKTICK CLICK! hummmmmm ... squeek squeek (the plastic rollers squeeked) hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... "
The fire goes out for a while to cool off and then when the fire came back on it was TICKTICKTICKTICKTICKTICKTICK CLICK! all over again.
The new Frigidaire my mom and dad has sounds so wimpy and cheap, it's like adding insult to injury.
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Post# 24247-11/18/2002-12:44 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - my grandma's dryer (POD Westinghouse Laundromat Pair/SELECTOR, NOT A DIAL (Number #2 Kenmore Dryer -- 1968))
MESSAGE: Imperial Bob:
I agree wholeheartedly when it comes to removing the lint from a GE or a Westinghouse dryer. My father has a late 1960's GE (Commercial) Dryer paired up with a late 1980's/early 1990's Kenmore D/D T/L Washer, and to think that everytime I visit home and have to do the laundry, I always have to check the lint filter first and if there is any lint left into the filter, I always clean the filter first thing before taking the clothes out of the washer and loading them into the dryer. Now, if he just had a Kenmore dryer, then that wouldn't even be an issue at all. The Westinghouse dryer that my aunt (which is his sister) had from 1970 until about 1984 was designed the same way. The lint filter was located in up front in front of the dryer instead of on the top, which was the way our Kenmore dryers were designed.
Jason:
I hear you!!!!! The Kenmore dryer that "Imperial Bob" has right now is one of my dream machines as well (check my profile....... there, you will see a long and extensive list as to what kind of vintage machines I would own if I had the space to put them..... and believe, it would be a lot of them). Only the Lady Kenmores from 1966-67, 1978, and 1989-99 would top it.
And one last question to anyone who is here at "classic appliances":
That Westinghouse pair that is featured on today's "POD", what year is that pair??? Right now, I am thinking 1963 to 1965. What do any of you think??
--Charles--
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Post# 24248-11/18/2002-15:41 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: ATTN: Jetcone
MESSAGE: You mailbox is giving "account is temporarily over quota" errors. Time to use that delete cycle...
-ph
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Post# 24249-11/18/2002-20:22 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Pump Repair Repercussions?
MESSAGE: Greg,
You were right about tightening up the center pump screw. After letting it sit for a while with WD-40 on it, I was able to back it up, remove and clean it. As Robert suggested, I applied Blue Lock-Tight (sp?) and securely replaced it. It certainly didn’t want to tighten up much more than the way I found it, but I got it as secure as I could. The machine sat overnight to let the screw/glue dry. I tried it this afternoon and it’s much quieter. And as you said, there is now not any free-play in the fan. Hopefully it will stay that way. The do-it-yourself cork template worked fine, and there is no leak from the bottom plate. However, did one problem lead to another? First I found a bit of water on the pump end, leaking from the tub drain hose that leads from the outer tub to the pump. Understandable after shaking around that old rubber hose. By the way, have you had to replace any of your interior hoses? I cut off a bit of the edge of old hose, cleaned it off, and reinstalled it pushed up a bit further with a new clamp. That now seems to be OK. After thoroughly drying it off, I ran it again, and now if looks like there might be a bit of water sitting on top of the base of the pump. I’m hoping it’s water that was flung off the fan or water remaining from draining the old hose, but I’m not sure. Please tell me it’s unlikely I’ve loosened up some seal now that will have to be replaced. I hope I'm just worrying too much. I just want to close up the back access opening on the washer and place it in its permanent spot, where it will stay! What sort of leak do you have in your machine? Thanks for all your help.
Ken
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Post# 24250-11/18/2002-21:00 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - my grandma's dryer (POD - Westinghouse Pair)
MESSAGE: You are about right on the dates of the POD pair. I have the service manual for both of these