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Post# 26000-1/23/2003-05:34 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: West Coast trip Yeilds a Frigidaire SkinnyMini (Taking the washer to church)
MESSAGE: Well, why not??? They have bake sales and rummage sales, so why not fund raising wash in's???

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Post# 26001-1/23/2003-06:00 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: 40 year old GE Combo for Sale (Maytag Combo)
MESSAGE: I saw a Maytag Combo Back in the mid 70's I a thrift shop in Colorado Springs, CO and believe it or not, it had a window in the door.

Steve1-18

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Post# 26002-1/23/2003-06:53 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: 40 year old GE Combo for Sale (Maytag Combo)
MESSAGE: Steve, I remember you talking about that one.
That was so rare that you saw that one! Man, if you would have only been collecting back then! I wonder if someone bought it, or if it was trashed?
Or, I wonder if the thrift store still has it. :)
Brent

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Post# 26003-1/23/2003-07:18 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: West Coast trip Yeilds a Frigidaire SkinnyMini (Taking the washer to church)
MESSAGE: "... and after service we will have a wash-in in the fellowship hall. There's coffee and donuts"

Whiter than snow, whiter than snow....

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Post# 26004-1/23/2003-07:21 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer
MESSAGE: Hi Filekar1, goood to hear from you again.

I have seen a slightly similar machine to this one here in Australia. It would have been a private import as it was labelled in German and had a European-style power plug. It was a Constructa washer-dryer. I don't think Constructa have ever been sold here.
At the time I used to work night shift, and if a hard-garbage collection was happening somewhere between work and home I would often cruise past the junk at between 1am and 3am looking for interesting machines. I tried to lift the Constructa into the back of my car, a station wagon, but it was exceptionally heavy and appeared too big anyway, and I didn't want to make a noise. I removed a few spare parts from it including the motor, which was a very unusual design, manufactured by Siemens. The motor had an integral 10-to-1 reduction gearbox and a centrifugal clutch. The motor was 2-speed. When the motor turned at low speed (1400rpm) the reduction gear was engaged, so that the pulley turned at 140 rpm. the drum pulley was almost three times the size, giving a drum speed of 50rpm, which is WASH cycle. When the fast speed of the motor is energized (2800rpm) the centrifugal clutch engages so that the gearbox is bypassed and output pulley speed is the same as motor speed, 2800 rpm. The belt/pulley sizes mean it spins at about 1000 rpm. This 20:1 ratio was very unusual for a machine with no electronic motor speed control, and must have given an impressive spin. (1000 rpm with a very large diameter drum, in a machine of 1970's (?) vintage.) I have seen early Asko-Asea washers with exactly the same Siemens motor/gearbox.

Filekar1 or Louis, what can you tell us about the history of Constructa washers? they look very heavy-duty, were they domestic or commercial use machines??
Thanks
Chris.


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Post# 26005-1/23/2003-07:28 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: West Coast trip Yeilds a Frigidaire SkinnyMini (Taking the washer to church)
MESSAGE: "Cast your sins upon the waters of the Maytag, Kenmore and Frigidaire and be clean!"

Sounds like a lot of fun Steve, best of luck!

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Post# 26006-1/23/2003-07:34 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: 40 year old GE Combo for Sale (Is this one of the first GE Combo's?)
MESSAGE: Brent I think it is very early by the dials. John has one and it has a transmission,it is not a 3 belt machine like all the later models I have.
I am betting this is a tranny machine as well. I was in contact with the current owner Denise to see if she could get that machine too a Craters and Freighters near her but she has no way to do that and CnF charges a fortune to go pick things up! So its out of my price range. Good thing Jimmy happens to be out there, it would be a real shame for that to go to the "KRUSHR"
Jet

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Post# 26007-1/23/2003-08:33 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: 40 year old GE Combo for Sale (Is this one of the first GE Combo's?)
MESSAGE: Hey Jon,

What about the GE combo in your kitchen? Is that a later model too?

Louis

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Post# 26008-1/23/2003-08:39 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer
MESSAGE: Actually I don't know much about Constructa. I only know they used to produce very good domestic machines. The one on eBay is already a Siemens product (1971) according to the Constructa collector I contacted, so it's not a collectible for him. That also means I think that it's not a "Kochautomat", but I will have to ask him about that.

Louis

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Post# 26009-1/23/2003-12:21 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: 40 year old GE Combo for Sale (Is this one of the first GE Combo's?)
MESSAGE: Hes got a 40 year old dishwasher too, hes close to me so I'm askin him how much his reserve is for the items. If its reasonable I'll take them both and book em up for applianceville to enjoy =)

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Post# 26010-1/23/2003-12:35 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: NORGE front loader info.
MESSAGE: Hello All,
I Was surfing on ebay and noticed this ad for a Norge front loader. Was this a licensed design from another manufacturer or a Norge original design?
-Alex
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2302342822&category=20714

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Post# 26011-1/23/2003-12:38 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: NORGE front loader info.
MESSAGE: Norge original -- their first automatic washer. It didn't last long and was quickly replaced with the beloved top loading, agitator Timeline. There is a poor review of it in the Consumer Reports articles on our webpage.

-ph

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Post# 26012-1/23/2003-16:41 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: RE: 40 year old GE Combo for Sale (Is this one of the first GE Combo's?)
MESSAGE: In response to Notafixer from SanDiego, FYI Im on vacation in S Cal so I already bid on both the GE combo and dishwasher.....just so you know a club member is trying to save these already.........FilterFlo

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Post# 26013-1/23/2003-16:58 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: 40 year old GE Combo for Sale (Is this one of the first GE Combo's?)
MESSAGE: Go for it Notafixer they are in your area after all! I can't wait to see them! They look in excellent shape!

jetcone

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Post# 26014-1/23/2003-18:57 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: Top Load Dishwasher
MESSAGE: Years ago an Aunt gave me a top loader. 2.5x3.5' apx. ,glass top & a spiral deflector to assure full wash coverage. VERY OLD. I wish I still had it. (gave it away Too young to know better) I do not remember the make. I live in Canada if that makes any difference. Any info on anything that sounds famular would be great. PS Stainless Steel inside & the upper rack was small & slid back & forth to accomidate access to the lower rack. Michael mikepaquette@hotmail.com

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Post# 26015-1/23/2003-19:51 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: 40 year old GE Combo for Sale (Is this one of the first GE Combo's?)
MESSAGE: ok jimmy, as long as there not going to the dump im happy =a)

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Post# 26016-1/23/2003-19:53 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: FilterFlo
MESSAGE: Hello,

If your going to be in San Diego could i meet up with you for lunch or something and see what your bringing home in that van of yours =)

~Steven

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Post# 26017-1/23/2003-20:00 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: West Coast trip Yeilds a Frigidaire SkinnyMini (Taking the washer to church)
MESSAGE: You too can have your sins washed away in the wash-in. Whiter than snow!!!

Or, baptize you laundry in the Frigidaire while you're being baptized too LOL

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Post# 26018-1/23/2003-20:01 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: 40 year old GE Combo for Sale (Is this one of the first GE Combo's?)
MESSAGE: The appliance gods have smiled on us with Jimmy being out there!!!

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Post# 26019-1/23/2003-20:06 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: West Coast trip Yeilds a Frigidaire SkinnyMini (Taking the washer to church)
MESSAGE: Though my garments be dirty, they shall be whiter than snow.

Speaking of white: time to throw some whiteys in Sir Frigemore

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Post# 26020-1/23/2003-21:07 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Top Load Dishwasher
MESSAGE: Hi, welcome! Did your dishwasher look anything like the one in this Ebay ad? They may have been called something other than "James" in Canada. Our club founder owns one of these machines. I'm sure he has pictures posted but I just don't know where. Scott
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3201900977&category=13596

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Post# 26021-1/23/2003-21:29 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: No Spivulators HERE!!!
MESSAGE: Okay People lets try this again!

Here are two new albums of the restoration of the GE Combo and one of the first loads thru it.
The titles are "GE combo restoration" and "GE Combo"
The object is to enjoy and illuminate.

Jetcone


LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/jetcone/lst?.dir=/&.src=ph&.view=t

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Post# 26022-1/23/2003-22:06 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!! (JON YOU ARE THE MAN!)
MESSAGE: Jon,
Thanks so much for the pictures. I remember thinking when I saw that machine a Jeff's during the convention how cool it was and how good of shape it was in. Little did I know that it needed so much work!
You did such a great job! I am so proud that that machine will be running for so much longer with your hard work!
Now, where did you get the new an improved parts? Did GE still have these parts? Or did you have someone manufacture them?
Also wondering what was the total running time from start to finish of washing and drying for such a load. That looked like a big load. And I love that water action!
You are very lucky and talented Jon! Good for you!
What is needing to be done with your other GE combo?
Also, Did GE make this version in a gas combo? Or was the Condenser the only version for drying. I am sure that you know.
Thanks for answering all of my questions.
So So Cool!
Thanks again!
Brent

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Post# 26023-1/23/2003-22:49 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Flair Electric Range Repair Help
MESSAGE: Why not try www.antiqueapplinaces.com. They might be able to help you. They have a pic of a 1962 Frigidaire Flair on their website that they restored on commission for a client. Here's a link to the pic:

http://www.antiqueappliances.com/stoves/1962FrigidaireFlair.htm
LINK: http://www.antiqueappliances.com/stoves/1962FrigidaireFlair.htm

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Post# 26024-1/24/2003-02:23 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!! (Great job!!!!)
MESSAGE: Congratulations Jon on the restauration of this baby! Do you have two combo's hooked up now? You can take in lots of laundry now! And warm towels and warm jeans in the morning, isn't that wonderful? Next time I visit you I'll bring an extra cabin trunk full of laundry!

Louis

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Post# 26025-1/24/2003-05:37 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Top Load Dishwasher (top load dishwasher)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the reply. From what I can see in the ad, it just might be it. Thanks for the good beggining. Who is the founder I would not mind having a peek at that collection. Thanks again Michael

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Post# 26026-1/24/2003-06:36 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!! (Thanks Jon)
MESSAGE: Just finished looking at the pictures Jon. They were great! Thanks for sharing with us. It looks like you had a lot to fix on this one. The GE combo is one beautiful machine that I hope to see in action for myself one day. What is the drying time like for an average load?

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Post# 26027-1/24/2003-06:47 ||| cycla-fabric (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!! (Great GE Combo Job Jon!!)
MESSAGE: You did a wonderful job of getting that machine up and running again. The pictures were great too. I have the same questions as Brent has, were the parts available from ge or what. But you did a great job!!!

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Post# 26028-1/24/2003-07:23 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!!
MESSAGE: Jon - great pics of the GE combo, the new parts are so pretty! Is this still a six vane tub as in the older models?

Illumination and enjoyment appreciated!!

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Post# 26029-1/24/2003-07:24 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Top Load Dishwasher (top load dishwasher - archives)
MESSAGE: Hi Mike- you can do a search in the archives of the club postings for the James dishwasher pictures and check out the memeber links for more pictures of other appliance collections.

Enjoy!

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Post# 26030-1/24/2003-08:37 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!! (TO No Spivulators HERE!!! )
MESSAGE: Jon
I love the GE combo
Peter

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Post# 26031-1/24/2003-08:44 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!! (Had to make the parts)
MESSAGE: Hi Brent, Cyclafabric & Terry & Louis:
The parts are no longer available even as NOS. So I had to improvise. I found that the Frigdaire 1-18 tub seal just about fit the GE bronze face seal currently on the Combo. I knew the part that held it the "Seal Hub" had to be made up from scratch since as you can see mine was disintegrated. It had to fit the back plate of the combo yet hold the slightly larger Frigidaire seal agianst the bronze face and NOT allow the clothes basket to hit the front wall of the outer tub. With some careful measuring I took the dimensions to my friend Jacob who is a machinest by trade. He cut the new Seal Hub out of solid aluminum. Then we had it anodized black to prevent corrosion. Once I knew it fit it was just a matter of cleaning out the years of scum and lint in the tub, lubing up everything and reassembly. I also added my own little improvement. I put in vibration isolators between the motor and the base plate. That machine generates alot of sound due to the shape of the baseplate and cavity under the drum.
Now this machine is very quite compared to the other white machine I got from Jeff this summer.
Also it runs through its cycle faster. The wash is 8-10 minutes and the whole cycle in the White Combo usually runs 2 -2 1/2 hours BUT in the restored combo it runs 1 1/2 to 2 hours.
I believe both heating elements are working in both combos but I think gettting the chunks of compacted lint out of the Avocado combo has really shortend the drying time for it.
Anybody have any thoughts on why the times might be so different?
Glad you liked the pic, if anybody has to restore another one like this I have the dimensions on file and you can take them to your local machine shop and get a hub made,I also stocked up on Frigidaire seals if anybody needs them.
Have a great weekend all!
jet

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Post# 26032-1/24/2003-08:47 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!! (TO No Spivulators HERE!!! )
MESSAGE: Hi Pete:
Thank you, you will have to hitch a ride up with John next time try them out in person!
How is your Combo running these days?
jet

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Post# 26033-1/24/2003-09:50 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (More information on Constructa)
MESSAGE: I got some more information about the Constructa brand from the German collector. Constructa was taken over by Siemens in 1967 but continued to manufacture the real boil wash machines (Kochautomat) until the mid 70's. So the machine on eBay is a machine that really boils the laundry if you choose that cycle. He also told me that Bauknecht (the manufacturer of the Hettie and the Duet) also made boiling machines in the past. That was new to me.

Louis

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Post# 26034-1/24/2003-10:36 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!! (Just Fluff)
MESSAGE: Hi John

Glad to see another machine revived for another wash outing, what size load to it wash???

Is the dryer a condensor or vented??

From speaking to a lot of service engineers, the combo machines became more of a pain when the water levels where reduced for energy efficiency, with less water to splash about in the top of the drum the lint used to stick especially in the dimples and not too smooth areas around enamel etc....the later designed machines of UK and European models had SS drums and SS/metal outer drums with fancy rinse injectors to spray the surface of the drum and wash away the lint before it dried.

If the lint was allowed to build up it just acted like a sponge soaking up more moisture and taking longer to dry etc.Over a few years you then get much longer dry times..

Mike

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Post# 26035-1/24/2003-10:37 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (More information on Constructa)
MESSAGE: Hi Louis

Looks an interesting machine especially with the drop down door etc...was this a similar machine to the Merker with the guy on top???

Mike

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Post# 26036-1/24/2003-12:09 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (More information on Constructa)
MESSAGE: No Mike, the Merker is a whole different machine (the link goes to the Merker picture). It is an all push button machine though. I don't know when Merker was purchased by Siemens, or perhaps it was even founded by Siemens. Actually I don't know much about Merker since it's a brand that is exclusively made for the Swiss market.

Louis
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/vwp?.dir=/More+washers&.dnm=wasmesiene.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t

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Post# 26037-1/24/2003-18:32 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!! (Just Fluff)
MESSAGE: Hi Mike!!

You have cofirmed what I thought that the lint build up makes the drying longer.
The GE is rated at 6 pounds (~3Kg) in the literature but I load the thing up to atleast 12 pounds.
It has a real good wash action as there are 6 blades on the drum not 3 so it looks like Niagara Falls inside when on wash.
I will try to grab a video of that this weekend.
Would love to come visit you , they are offering $350 RT right now to London!!!!!!!!
Cheers
jon

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Post# 26038-1/24/2003-18:37 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (Cool Machinen~~)
MESSAGE: Hey Louis who made Constructa??

jetcone

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Post# 26039-1/24/2003-18:37 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (Cool Machinen~~)
MESSAGE: Hey Louis who made Constructa??

jetcone

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Post# 26040-1/24/2003-18:40 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (kochautomat??)
MESSAGE: Louis please translate for me I have not been studying my German of late

jet

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Post# 26041-1/24/2003-18:42 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: NORGE front loader info. (The first 18#)
MESSAGE: I believe it was the first 18 pounder on the domestic market.
Anybody concur with that?


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Post# 26042-1/24/2003-18:45 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!! (6 big vanes)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg:
Yes it has 6 big vanes so when in wash it looks like Niagara Falls!!! And the tub is MINT! There isn't a scratch in it!
It really cleans well, yet I say that about all my machines!!!
I will try and capture a video this weekend for the club.
jet


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Post# 26043-1/24/2003-18:47 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!! (Just Fluff Condensor)
MESSAGE: Hi Mike the dryer is a condensor so there is no external venting YAY!
jet

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Post# 26044-1/24/2003-18:48 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (More information on Constructa)
MESSAGE: I lOVE THAT GUY ON TOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jet8cone

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Post# 26045-1/24/2003-20:23 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!! (6 big vanes)
MESSAGE: Videos! I love Videos! They are the next best thing to being there!

THANK YOU!

Best Washes!
-Jamie-

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Post# 26046-1/24/2003-20:24 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!! (Spivulator?)
MESSAGE: What is a Spivulator?

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Post# 26047-1/24/2003-20:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!! (Piece By Piece washing)
MESSAGE: I'll bet that wash action is a sight to see in person!

GE called it "piece by piece" action - the six vaned, 26" (4 cubic foot) drum "gently flexes, dips and tumbles clothes" and reduces unecessary wear...

The lint buildup causes slightly longer drying times in a Filtrator too. Are the voltage ratings the same on both models? They also came in a 208v model which was sometimes preferred in apartment construction, etc. Just a thought...

Beautiful machine and fantastic job Jon!



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Post# 26048-1/24/2003-20:55 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Mini Wash-In Anyone?
MESSAGE: I am going to be in Columbia, Missouri on Monday March, 31 in the late evening and I am leaving early on the morning of Friday April, 4. Does anybody have free time down there? I would absolutely love to have the experience on the Vintage Washer World! My mom said that it was okay to do so if anyone had freetime, it was close by, and if they were okay with it. Thanks a bunch!

Best Washes!
-Jamie-

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Post# 26049-1/24/2003-23:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Mini Wash-In Anyone?
MESSAGE: Omaha, NE is probably too far away from Columbia, MO for a stop here, but you're getting closer! I did lots of vintage appliance hunting in that area a couple of years ago. Came across a few junkyards, but none with appliances.

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Post# 26050-1/25/2003-00:41 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!!
MESSAGE: Jon, can't add anything here on top of all the other accolades. Just wanted to say thank you for such loving terrific care of restoring another combo and this beautiful machine. I hope to see/hear it run some day. Bob P. S., although I couldn't read all the print, it looks like poor Al got blamed for the wash load. Poor guy, and he probably wasn't down there in the basement to see the cleaning of his "handiwork".

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Post# 26051-1/25/2003-00:42 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: NORGE front loader info. (The first 18#)
MESSAGE: Yes I concur that and it didn't spin either!!!

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Post# 26052-1/25/2003-00:44 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (More information on Constructa)
MESSAGE: Yes, that guy on top was INCREDIBLE/EDIBLE/DELECTABLE!!!

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Post# 26053-1/25/2003-03:30 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (kochautomat)
MESSAGE: Jon,

Until 1967 Constructa was an independent manufacturer. Then they were taken over by Siemens. A "Kochautomat" is a Boiling Automatic. So the one on eBay was manufactured while Constructa was already taken over (1971) but still was a machine that did a real boil wash. According to the collector Constructa made boiling machines because detergents weren't as good as nowadays when Constructa launched the concept.

Louis

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Post# 26054-1/25/2003-03:33 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (More information on Constructa)
MESSAGE: No wonder some people bring up that machine over and over again ;-)

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Post# 26055-1/25/2003-08:18 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: Some one needs this great set ... LOOK Westinghouse laundry pair
MESSAGE: As always I was running thru the ebay world and saw this I wish I had the money but hey one day my machine will show but I know how these would really make a collector happy. you don't find these often enough
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2503429351&category=12

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Post# 26056-1/25/2003-09:02 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (kochautomat)
MESSAGE: Hi Louis - So this washer was truly a 212 degree boil wash and not 180-190 degrees as some are today? That would definitely give white whites!

On the gentle cycle could you cook pasta? Just kidding...

- Greg

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Post# 26057-1/25/2003-09:04 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (More information on Constructa)
MESSAGE: I have that picture in my photo screensaver program - see all the time!


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Post# 26058-1/25/2003-09:10 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (boiling wash)
MESSAGE: Boiling (212 degrees F) is too hot for elastic. I washed underwear @ 90 degrees C and the elastic was shot. They sure were white, though!

Steve1-18

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Post# 26059-1/25/2003-09:47 ||| filekar1 (italy)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (boiling wash with Constructa )
MESSAGE: This was the first automatic machine made by constructa, bolted down with cicle control on the left and temperature control on the right.
The photo is very small and anyone can't see that on the left side of this machine there were ON-OFF switch and I think a no spin switch.
these machines were very interesting because before the prewash cicle they had a cicle, known in italian "bagnatura".
this cicle was used to soak the laundry tor dissolve better the detergent in the next prewash cicle. My gandmother had a bolted down Constructa since 1962 she used this machine until 1995/'96 I don't remember very well It's looks like this machine in your photo, Foraloysius. My mother have a Constructa too, it's Constructa CV 530, but we bought in 1982, it's a Siemens machine and it work very well now!!!
Greetings from Italy
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/vwp?.dir=/My+favourite+appliances&.dnm=First+Constructa+washer.jpg&.src=ph&.view=l&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/lst%3f%26.dir=/My%2bfavourite%2bappliances%26.src=ph%26.view=l

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Post# 26060-1/25/2003-09:49 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Some one needs this great set ... LOOK Westinghouse laundry pair
MESSAGE: OMK! A matched set of Westy's! They look like someone took very good care of them. It's almost too good to be true. This is one of the few times that I wished that I lived in a house instead of an apartment. :-( I would bid of them if I could. I hope someone in the club is able to give them the good home that they deserve.

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Post# 26061-1/25/2003-10:17 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Some one needs this great set ... LOOK Westinghouse laundry pair
MESSAGE: Amazing!! They look to be in good shape too. There were a couple of ads in the classifieds looking for slant front Westys...


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Post# 26062-1/25/2003-10:42 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (kochautomat)
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, how did the Constructa's boiling differ from the machines that do boilwashes today?

QEOM

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Post# 26063-1/25/2003-10:46 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (kochautomat)
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, I think I see, now that I've read ahead. The new machines don't get quite as hot.

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Post# 26064-1/25/2003-11:58 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: NORGE front loader info. (The first 18#)
MESSAGE: No spin at all or just a slow spin?

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Post# 26065-1/25/2003-13:44 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: NORGE front loader info. (The first 18#)
MESSAGE: From comments I remember from Tom Turbo, they didn't spin at all, just tumbled.

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Post# 26066-1/25/2003-14:29 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Some one needs this great set ... LOOK Westinghouse laundry pair
MESSAGE: Well, I have family there in the area that I really need to go visit, so I can use the excuse of picking up these guys when I go! I have bid on them...

-ph

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Post# 26067-1/25/2003-14:30 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (More information on Constructa)
MESSAGE: And when you look at that pic on a really, really good monitor, you can see things that you never noticed before!

-ph

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Post# 26068-1/25/2003-15:48 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (More information on Constructa)
MESSAGE: Yup, I see it too! His shoe laces need washing.



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Post# 26069-1/25/2003-16:39 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (kochautomat)
MESSAGE: Greg,

Yes, these washers did a true 212 boil wash. I remember seeing the Constructa from our neighbours bubbling their whites. That machine had a timer and pushbuttons, for several cycles including temperature. I mean that the temperature was integrated in the cyclebuttons. There was no delicate boil wash available, just a regular cycle.

Boiling pasta in a Constructa is not a good idea I think, a Kochautomat sounds more like Bubble and Squeak to me.

Louis

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Post# 26070-1/25/2003-19:02 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: GE Combo and Dishwasher
MESSAGE: Yeah Won the ebay auctions. I LOVE the combo. Wish me well picking them up, getting them home and fixing them! PS> thats the same dishwasher I am currently building into my new kitchen~

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Post# 26071-1/25/2003-19:23 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!! (Spivulator?)
MESSAGE: A play on words Jamie,just a play on words.
I will try to catch video of the GE combo tomorrow with my limited video camera.If sucessful you'l see the 6 big vanes in action!
jet

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Post# 26072-1/25/2003-19:26 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!! (Piece By Piece washing)
MESSAGE: Wow! Greg thanks for the original lingo! I love commercial lingo on these machines.
My machine is rated at 208 to 250?? I see this all the time and wonder. When normal house v is 220 or 110.
Thank you Greg. You must come out soon to play!
jon

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Post# 26073-1/25/2003-19:31 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (kochautomat)
MESSAGE: Thank you Louis! I sent the link to my friend Ingrid who grew up in Germany. She said it was a solid machine but very small capacity.
And that the blurb said it was owned by a little old woman--who probably just did her undies in it, hence low use!
cheers jon

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Post# 26074-1/25/2003-19:32 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (kochautomat-Lumpy Pasta)
MESSAGE: No al dente in that machine!

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Post# 26075-1/25/2003-19:38 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Some one needs this great set ... LOOK Westinghouse laundry pair (Greg is bidding)
MESSAGE: Gregm is going to bid them and get them. Can't wait to see them in person! I wonder if that Westy has the 6 vane tub????
jet

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Post# 26076-1/25/2003-22:32 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire 1-18 set
MESSAGE: Did you guys notice that someone is selling a Frigidaire 1-18 set? Its in Maryland and the pictures look mighty good!!! It's a 1978, I believe. If I hadn't just got my set, I'd jump on it. Any takers????

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Post# 26077-1/25/2003-22:34 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire 1-18 set
MESSAGE: I guess I forgot to mention that it's on Ebay. Sorry, they say the mind is the first thing to go ... what were we talking about?

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Post# 26078-1/26/2003-00:01 ||| may63 (Saint Paul, MN)
SUBJECT: 1958 Frigidaire Washer Ad
MESSAGE: I thought this was pretty cool so thought I'd share.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2302911498&category=20714

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Post# 26079-1/26/2003-00:10 ||| may63 (Saint Paul, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire 1-18 set
MESSAGE: They looked to have been well cared for! Here's the link.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2304256787&category=20714

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Post# 26080-1/26/2003-00:12 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Combo and Dishwasher
MESSAGE: Hooray!! YAY!!! JIMMY!!!!!! I loved the noise of impeller dishwashers

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Post# 26081-1/26/2003-00:16 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!! (Spivulator?)
MESSAGE: Jon, I hope I can download it too. (dial-up you know). Anyway, i hope your limited video action camera will catch all the piece by piece action and not in vane.

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Post# 26082-1/26/2003-00:18 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (kochautomat-Lumpy Pasta)
MESSAGE: Jon, you're supposed to prevent al from putting dente in the machines.

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Post# 26083-1/26/2003-00:22 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: 1958 Frigidaire Washer Ad
MESSAGE: And unimatic has this washer in his basement collection in Minnie. It's my favorite!!!!

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Post# 26084-1/26/2003-00:30 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire 1-18 set
MESSAGE: This looks like the same models that Steve 1-18 picked up in Virginia (the poppy set) during last August's convention. The dryer particularly with no auto dry cycle, all timed-dry. Washer looks the same too.

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Post# 26085-1/26/2003-01:38 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!! (Voltage)
MESSAGE: 208 is used in comercial buildings. If you have a 208v element and run it on 220 the output will be greater.

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Post# 26086-1/26/2003-02:57 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (kochautomat)
MESSAGE: LOL! Who would have thought we would be discussing the undies of an old German widow on this site! The machine served her probably well over thirty years.

As a matter of fact this is just a standard European capacity machine, 4.5kg or so (10lbs) which was quite normal for that time. I guess your friend Ingrid must have gotten used to the US size machines. What kind of washer does she have?

Louis

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Post# 26087-1/26/2003-02:59 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Some one needs this great set ... LOOK Westinghouse laundry pair (Greg is bidding)
MESSAGE: I'm sure you will give us a full report on this including big screen Technicolor pictures....

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Post# 26088-1/26/2003-03:56 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Some one needs this great set ... LOOK Westinghouse laundry pair (Greg is bidding)
MESSAGE: Good news! Let's keep our fingers crossed. Can't wait to hear a report and to, hopefully, see some pics.

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Post# 26089-1/26/2003-04:00 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire 1-18 set
MESSAGE: I can't believe this. First a Westy slant front pair and now a Frigidare 1-18! Hopefully someone in the club will be able to give them the good home that they deserve. Those are among my favorite machines. I usually don't mind living in an apartment, but if this keeps up I may have to start looking for a house.

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Post# 26090-1/26/2003-04:09 ||| filekar1 (italy)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (kochautomat)
MESSAGE: Hallo Foraloysius, do you have some old Constructa washer Owners manual or catalogue? I'm very interesting to this kind of washer. Can you help me, please? Or your friend collector of old Constructa can help me, please? Thanks!!!!

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Post# 26091-1/26/2003-05:33 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (kochautomat)
MESSAGE: I'm sorry, but I don't have anything on Constructa appliances. Perhaps I'm going to visit the Constructa collector sometime, we'll see what comes out of that.

Louis

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Post# 26092-1/26/2003-07:10 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: 1958 Frigidaire Washer Ad
MESSAGE: I agree. The 58 is by far my favorite Frigidaire. Great chrome trim on the cabinet, terrificly styled lighted control panel and that wonderful multi-colored 3-ring agitator.

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Post# 26093-1/26/2003-08:12 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire 1-18 set
MESSAGE: Well, I have a slight problem also. I have been out of work for a while, so my collecting is at a standstill. First, I can't really afford to bid, though I would love to, especially on the 1-18 set. A few machines in poppy red have gotten by me for that reason. Also, in order to properly house a collection, I need to reconfigure some area of my house. Until another position comes along, it all is on hold!! Drat the luck!

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Post# 26094-1/26/2003-11:52 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: Bauknecht washing machines brochure 1964/65 including "Kochautomat"
MESSAGE: Name it coincidence, but today a Belgian guy read my ad on a dutch site about collecting washer brochures. He scanned this Bauknecht brochure and sent the scans to me. Much to my surprise the machines that did a real boil wash (212F) are in this brochure. I have never seen these washers for real, I guess Bauknecht wasn't very popular in the area where I lived.

The commercial machines look much like the Constructa machines from that time, there might have been a connection, but that's just a guess. The residential machines have the controls on the rear like my mother's Bosch from 1966 had. Some of the Bauknecht residential models were bolt down machines, I didn't know that in the 60's bolt down machines were still made.

Louis
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/lst?.dir=/1964-1965+Bauknecht+brochure&.view=t

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Post# 26095-1/26/2003-18:39 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Kenmore Visamatic! In Pink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MESSAGE: Wow in pink! Perfect Condition! Have fun!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2304486430&category=20714

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Post# 26096-1/26/2003-19:20 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Visamatic! In Pink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Nice machine)
MESSAGE: Only if the bidding price started at $50.00.
Otherwise it is in mint condition just like my Easy wringer washer that I've just picked up over the weekend!!!

Now I like to know if that Kenmore prego agitator(Roto-Swirl) would fit inside my Easy?

LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1400&item=749327260&rd=1

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Post# 26097-1/26/2003-21:21 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!! (Spivulator?)
MESSAGE: SOmeone is gonna be slappped in Vane!!


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Post# 26098-1/26/2003-21:22 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (kochautomat-Lumpy Pasta)
MESSAGE: slapped BY a vane I'd say!!!!!

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Post# 26099-1/26/2003-21:23 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!! (Voltage)
MESSAGE: Thanks HQots! It has been a long time mystery for me! I guess 208 lends itself to 3 phase better?
jet

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Post# 26100-1/26/2003-21:26 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (kochautomat)
MESSAGE: I "convinced" Her to by a Neptune. She loves it. I gave her some of the Persil that Paolo gave me and the smell took her right back to Germany. I bet each of us has some smell in detergent like that although I can't quite place what mine is off the top of my head.
jet

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Post# 26101-1/26/2003-21:29 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire 1-18 set
MESSAGE: Angus here's to you finding work soon it must be very frustrating!!
jet

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Post# 26102-1/26/2003-21:34 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Bauknecht washing machines brochure 1964/65 including "Kochautomat" (model line up)
MESSAGE: OOOHH I love the model line up! Louis are those brochures in Dutch? Am I begining to see the differnce between Dutch and German?? Or am I hallucinating??
jet

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Post# 26103-1/26/2003-21:36 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Visamatic! In Pink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Cool Pic! with the OO!!)
MESSAGE: Cool pic, one doesn't often get to see the Original Owner OO with their machine!!!
jetcone

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Post# 26104-1/26/2003-23:00 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Visamatic! In Pink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MESSAGE: Someone must have this!! I'll bet if you picked it up from her house, she'd show you that cool 50's basement and cook you dinner too! This would be a neat addition to someone's collection for sure, the pink is to die for!

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Post# 26105-1/26/2003-23:02 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Visamatic! In Pink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Nice machine)
MESSAGE: You won't need the Kenmore agitator, you have a Spiralator in yours - just as much fun. What a beauty that machine is as well, congrats on your new Easy! I have a lot of fun with my wringer washer, but remember to play safe around that wringer!

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Post# 26106-1/26/2003-23:10 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Bauknecht washing machines brochure 1964/65 including "Kochautomat"
MESSAGE: Those are very cool looking machines - and bolt down too, how strange. Were these about the same size as the other European machines of their era? Wish I could read the brochure!!

Thanks Louis - Greg

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Post# 26107-1/26/2003-23:22 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Weekend Finds with Flair
MESSAGE: A very busy weekend, working 7 days/week again, but I did manage to have some neat finds this weekend. At our one and only sale, I found a couple of neat vacuum coffee pots, one of which is going to Tomturbo in D.C. (see pics) I saw them yesterday and went back today for them. The Sunbeam is a model "C" from 1933! I got a peek at the Flair range a friend has saved for me. It appears to be a 1960 40" model, but the control panel glass is broken, great for parts though. Tomorrow night I am going to look at a couple of washers and a dryer in a friend's rental house, upon description, it sounds like a Norge set (more harvest gold!) and another white washer "that is even older." We'll see...

Hope everyone's weekend was grand!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/New+pics&.dnm=Dsc00239.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t

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Post# 26108-1/27/2003-02:08 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Bauknecht washing machines brochure 1964/65 including "Kochautomat" (Dutch and German)
MESSAGE: Spot-on! You deserve the full ten points! This brochure is in Dutch, meant for the Belgian market. I love the line up too!

Louis

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Post# 26109-1/27/2003-02:12 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Visamatic! In Pink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Cool Pic! with the OO!!)
MESSAGE: She must have a thing for washers too, having a back up machine and now getting taken her picture with it now.

Louis

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Post# 26110-1/27/2003-02:27 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Bauknecht washing machines brochure 1964/65 including "Kochautomat" (Some technical information)
MESSAGE: Greg,

They were indeed the same size as other European machines from that time. This however was before the European standard size, the width of those machines was 5 centimetres (2 inches) more than modern European machines.

BTW, not all the models are bolt down machines and not all of them do a real boil wash. The models are:

WA481K: bolt down - 212 boil wash
WA501K: freestanding - 212 boil wash
WA581K: bolt down - 212 boil wash - bigger capacity and small load option
WA480: bolt down - no 212 boil wash
WA500: freestanding - no 212 boil wash

So the K stands probably for "Kochautomat".

All models can be connected to single phase 220 V, three phase 220V and three phase 380V except for the WA581K that doesn't connect to single phase 220V.

Louis

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Post# 26111-1/27/2003-06:51 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Weekend Finds with Flair (My toaster)
MESSAGE: I want that toaster. That's a Sunbeam automatic toaster. You put the bread in and it lowers automatically.

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Post# 26112-1/27/2003-06:52 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Visamatic! In Pink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Cool Pic! with the OO!!)
MESSAGE: I wonder what her automatic washer was?

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Post# 26113-1/27/2003-09:53 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Visamatic! In Pink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Easy wringer)
MESSAGE: Hey Larry,

On the model/serial plate on your Easy wringer, was it made in Syracuse, NY? Since it has the fatter Spiralator, I guess this might be a later model.

-ph

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Post# 26114-1/27/2003-12:24 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Visamatic! In Pink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MESSAGE: When I do get a wringer washer for a collection, I hope it will be a pink one! Robert and I have seen a few of these around town in the past.

Have you put out a wash with your Visi-matic lately, Greg? :)

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Post# 26115-1/27/2003-12:28 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Weekend Finds with Flair
MESSAGE: How wonderful Greg! Tom will really appreciate that Coffeemaster! Keep us posted about those washers/dryer!

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Post# 26116-1/27/2003-12:31 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Visamatic! In Pink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Cool Pic! with the OO!!)
MESSAGE: I bet she had a big family and used it to keep things moving along. I thought it was a fun touch that they took her picture with the machine. It is really a gem. They used to sell translucent fitted covers for washing machines, I'm wondering if that's what she used to cover it. The basement floor is really pretty too!

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Post# 26117-1/27/2003-12:32 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Visamatic! In Pink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Cool Pic! with the OO!!)
MESSAGE: good question Jason!....a Pink Lady, perhaps! :)

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Post# 26118-1/27/2003-13:05 ||| may63 (Saint Paul, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: Weekend Finds with Flair (My toaster)
MESSAGE: I want it too. My Grandma had one. Great toaster. Major tempation though for little grandchildren to walk by and push the trip wire down! Not a good thing to do when the toaster cozy is in place though...I can still smell the burnt plastic...

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Post# 26119-1/27/2003-14:28 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Australia Day Jan 26/27
MESSAGE: Happy Australia Day to our club members down under!

-pg

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Post# 26120-1/27/2003-15:45 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Visamatic! In Pink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Easy wringer)
MESSAGE: Peter, I will have to check and see. The people that sold the machine said it was made back in 1939 and it's in mint condition. Extreamly clean from top to bottom. The motor and transmission looks like it just came from the factory and it only needs a new drain hose....
Wow what a great buy!

But one question?
Does this machine suppose to have a lint filter under the lid or such an attachment like the Kenmore Visamatic?

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Post# 26121-1/27/2003-18:33 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Weekend Finds with Flair (nice pics)
MESSAGE: nice Greg !! I have that same toaster, it goes down automatically, slowly, just by putting the bread in it. Very cool looking coffee pot too..........

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Post# 26122-1/27/2003-18:45 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire 1-18 set
MESSAGE: Thanks - I could use a break! But you know how it is - you go through years getting "fat, dumb and happy" thinking that you are set. Then fate steps in and reminds you about balance...

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Post# 26123-1/27/2003-22:48 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: GE Combo & Roll Out Dishwasher
MESSAGE: Picked up my ebay wins today in Fullerton Calif. The Combo washer and dishwasher are just stunning and in almost perfect condition. It was a surprise to find them in GE's Sunburst Yellow color. The sellers were very kind and charming, just wonderful people. They also offered the GE 4 burner range top with tandem pushbuttons! Will send some pics in soon.......Jimmy

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Post# 26124-1/28/2003-03:30 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Australia Day Jan 26/27
MESSAGE: Thanks Peter. You are on the ball.
We went to a Council function for the day (Hubby is a Councillor), not the sort of thing we'd usually go to but actually it was a good day. The usual tedious speeches; some music (good singers but over-amplified); a great comic who impersonated several Aussie politicians of recent past; citizenship ceremony for some migrants; community service awards for some local good folk; followed by a free BARBEQUE!!!
Afterwards a friend took us out to see "My Big Greek Wedding" in the tiny local "cinema" which is really the Mechanics Institute hall, converted for the school holidays. It was a hoot!
Good on you for remembering.
Chris.


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Post# 26125-1/28/2003-04:43 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: More Bauknecht brochure pictures
MESSAGE: My new Belgian friend sent me some more pictures. It appeared there were actually two brochures, a red one and a blue one. I added the new scans to the album. There was also an extra red page showing an H-axis twintub. The blue brochure shows clearly a picture of the control panel of the Boiling washer with the three controls.

One other thing that drew my attention is that there is no information about spinspeeds. I assume these machines spin between 600 - 800 rpm, but that's just a guess.

Louis
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/lst?.dir=/1964-1965+Bauknecht+brochure&.view=t

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Post# 26126-1/28/2003-04:47 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: American classic kitchen question
MESSAGE: Pol from Belgium has a question about a kitchen. This kitchen (see link for a picture, the store is in my neighbourhood) is sold overhere as an American Classic, but to be honest I have never seen one in the US yet. Is there anybody who knows a little more about these kitchens? Name, manufacturer, website etc? He would love to know more about it since he recently purchased one of these.

Louis
LINK: http://www.indigo-design.nl/kitchen.asp

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Post# 26127-1/28/2003-04:58 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: Sam toploading H-axs washers
MESSAGE: Besides the Bauknecht pictures I also got a few scans from a Sam brochure, a manufacturer of mainly H-axis toploading semi-automatics. I think Sam was an independent manufacturer that was later purchased by Thomson Brandt.

Louis
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/lst?.dir=/Sam&.view=t

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Post# 26128-1/28/2003-07:05 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: American classic kitchen question
MESSAGE: I don't know the manufacturer but it looks like a 1950s kitchen except for the new dishwasher. It's beautiful

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Post# 26129-1/28/2003-07:32 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire Jetcone Set
MESSAGE: Just as my birthday approached last week, I got a call from California Appliance Recycling Factory in Riverside, Ca. that they just got in a Frigidaire jetcone washer and dryer set in mint condition. I did the one hour drive there from Palm Springs and bought the set. They are to be delivered this week. I can't wait to do my first load in the jetcone. I do not know how to post pictures but will try. All that will be left to complete my small collection will be to find a Thor Automagic top loader spinner washer.

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Post# 26130-1/28/2003-07:36 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: American classic kitchen question (Set Your Heart on a Crosley!)
MESSAGE: It looks to me like an Avco design with the slanted drawer fronts. Avco owned Bendix and Crosley appliances and also made kitchen cabinets. I scanned a copy of a brochure that I have from 1954, probably a little earlier than the kitchen you linked to, you'll notice chrome pulls on the drawers in the ad that are missing on the pictured kitchen. Avco home appliances (Crosley & Bendix) were sold in 1956, but I don't know what happened to the cabinet division then. There is also a '54 Crosley washer and dryer ad in that same photo album.
LINK: http://edit.photos.yahoo.com/edit/gansky1/fupload_parent?.dir=/Ads+Articles+Brochures&.src=ph&.action=upload&.view=t&.vty=p&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Ads%2bArticles%2bBrochures%26.src=ph%26.view=t

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Post# 26131-1/28/2003-07:41 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Visamatic! In Pink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MESSAGE: I haven't used the wringer for a few weeks, it is a lot of fun and very fast if you use an automatic to rinse and final spin!


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Post# 26132-1/28/2003-07:42 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Weekend Finds with Flair (My toaster)
MESSAGE: I found this toaster at a sale a few years back, I see them all the time though. My grandmother had one for many years just like mine, I always thought it made the best toast. You can still find nice ones on ebay too.

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Post# 26133-1/28/2003-07:44 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Combo & Roll Out Dishwasher
MESSAGE: Yay! I was wondering if they were "in color" as the pictures in the auction hinted to. Sunny yellow - what a fun surprise! Can't wait to see more - they looked like they were in very nice shape.

Drive safe Jimmy - Greg

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Post# 26134-1/28/2003-07:45 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Jetcone Set
MESSAGE: Sounds like you found a 70's 1-18 set? Congrats and hopefully they won't need much work to get you washing! You've certainly aquired some neat things this last year - now for the Thor!

Do you have any way to post pictures of your beauties?

Good luck - Greg

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Post# 26135-1/28/2003-09:38 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: American classic kitchen question (Set Your Heart on a Crosley!)
MESSAGE: Greg,

I can't view the brochure, I get "Acces denied", I guess you have the album set to private still?

This kitchen is still sold overhere, it's especially for people into fifties stuff. BTW, did I mention the doors on the cabinets are metal?

Louis

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Post# 26136-1/28/2003-09:48 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Jetcone Set
MESSAGE: wow, Ross, congrads, what great finds !!, I hope to see pics, best of luck with them.............-gregm

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Post# 26137-1/28/2003-14:27 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Jetcone Set
MESSAGE: Wow Ross, what a lucky find!!! Hope you will be washing soon. Are they a particular color or white? Whatever they are, best of luck with them!! So nice when a mint condition set is available. You know, those things were built so well that if in mint condition you should have years more service. Not like today's stuff......

Congratulations!

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Post# 26138-1/28/2003-17:21 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: American classic kitchen question (Set Your Heart on a Crosley!)
MESSAGE: I'm not sure what happened - I tried the link and got the "upload photos" page - anyway, try this link. The Crosley cabinets would have been all metal too. Avco made cabinets, Frigidaire had a line of cabinets as well as GE, Hotpoint, etc.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Ads+Articles+Brochures&.dnm=Crosley+Kitchens.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t

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Post# 26139-1/28/2003-17:48 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Jetcone Set
MESSAGE: Happy belated birthday! I hope it was a good one. Congrats on the new Frigidaires. What a wonderful addition to your collection. I hope that you get many years of enjoyment out of them. Those machines were built to last. BTW, how did you make out with that slant front Westy? Your last report was that it had to be sent off for repairs upon arrival.

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Post# 26140-1/28/2003-19:44 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: American classic kitchen question (Set Your Heart on a Crosley!)
MESSAGE: Hey guys, my parents had a kitchen full of these back in the mid to late 60's. I remember my mom could not wait to get rid of them! My dad and brother pulled them off of the walls and me and my mom scraped up the black & white checker patterned asphalt floor tiles. (Blasphemy!) Think I was 7 or 8 at the time. Anyway, they were known as Youngstown-American steel kitchens. The doors were very heavy and unfortunately the hinges would wear. As did the door closure hardware. The less used and in good shape cabinets were reused and relocated to the basement workbench area.

Friends of my parents had a GE kitchen cabinets in turquoise with Pink GE appliances put in their new home in 1960. Waaay cool. Only the dishwasher has been replaced. Whirlpool Corp., also had steel cabinets called "Wonder-life"....in the 50's & early 60's. You can catch a glimpse of them in several scenes of the Doris Day--Rock Hudson movie "Pillow Talk". They're in Doris' NY apt.

There were literally thousands of post WWII houses built in developments in the Buffalo NY area that had these Youngstown- American kitchens. Surely there are plenty still there. Most notable is community known as Green-Acres in Tonawanda......virtually every California ranch there had them. Fun memories....take care..



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Post# 26141-1/28/2003-20:28 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (kochautomat--childhood detergent smells)
MESSAGE: Well, I'm back. The internet virus upset my access to several sites. Anyway Jon, I can't believe that you couldn't come up with a smell from your childhood, I can't imagine that would deter a gent such as you. Like I've posted b4, my earliest was Rinso Blue.

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Post# 26142-1/28/2003-20:30 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire 1-18 set
MESSAGE: Anthony, I always try to send you positive thoughts and well-wishes for a fruitful employment endeavor. I'm rootin' in your corner.

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Post# 26143-1/28/2003-20:38 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Weekend Finds with Flair
MESSAGE: Greg, what finds!! And what a contradiction, the picture of the vintage vac coffee pots and the Asko's control panel!!!

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Post# 26144-1/28/2003-20:42 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire 1-18 set
MESSAGE: Anthony, I had the same feeling after 20 years. And then out of work for over 18 months.

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Post# 26145-1/28/2003-20:44 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Combo & Roll Out Dishwasher
MESSAGE: WOW Jimmy!!!! I'm bursing with excitement. I guess the wall oven was long gone!!!! Are tandem push buttons the wall-mounted panel? If not, what is that?

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Post# 26146-1/28/2003-20:49 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Jetcone Set
MESSAGE: Wow Ross, I'm drooling!!!

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Post# 26147-1/28/2003-21:07 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: American classic kitchen question (Set Your Heart on a Crosley!)
MESSAGE: Greetings, L.P.!  

Hmmmm.  I need to go find "Pillow Talk" - never have seen it.

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Post# 26148-1/28/2003-22:05 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: American classic kitchen question (Set Your Heart on a Crosley!)
MESSAGE: Leslie, it's great to seeyou--have missed having you around much. Per Pillow Talk, wasn't Selma Diamond Doris' NY apt. maid? One of my favorite movies, Rock was in it, so I didn't pay much attention to much of anything else. Although I do remember another one of their movies together, the suburban kitchen had a spray-tube 1964 or 1965 Frigidaire dishwasher in yellow.

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Post# 26149-1/28/2003-22:18 ||| Soharra (Huntsville, Alabama)
SUBJECT: Buying on eBay
MESSAGE: Has anyone out there had any success in buying washers and dishwashers on eBay? Specifically, crating and shipping! Seems like most of the great stuff I have seen is 500+ miles away!

I've bought/sold vacuum cleaners and other small, easy to ship appliances and 6-set dining room chairs, but nothing weighing over 80-pounds.

Just curious if I'm wasting my time bidding on something that will be a major $$ or challenge to deliver!

Thanks for your helpful insight!

Shawn

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Post# 26150-1/29/2003-02:45 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: American classic kitchen question (Set Your Heart on a Crosley!)
MESSAGE: Thank you Greg, great picture, but this isn't exactly the same one, or did they have several models?

Louis

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Post# 26151-1/29/2003-04:09 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (kochautomat--childhood detergent smells)
MESSAGE: I am sure we all have those. I had several early ones - Cheer and Fab (in the gold foil "moisture proof" box)were two big ones as well as Dash, Silver Dust and Oxydol. And occasionally, Instant Fels.............

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Post# 26152-1/29/2003-04:15 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: American classic kitchen question (Set Your Heart on a Crosley!)
MESSAGE: It was on one of the cable channels not more than a week ago! I remember seeing it with my parents in the movies. Of course in those days, Saturday nights meant dinner at the Chinese restaurant in downtown Brooklyn and then a movie at the RKO Albee - which was like a miniature Radio City Music Hall. THEN, if were flush, it was ice cream sodas at Junior's. And finally a walk down Fulton Street with window shopping at Martin's, Abraham and Straus, Namm's and Loeser Brothers.

If I remember correctly, Pillow Talk was reviewed as a typical Day and Hudson "gay romp". Hmmm.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,

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Post# 26153-1/29/2003-07:02 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Buying on eBay (buying on ebay)
MESSAGE: hi shawn....i live in palm springs, california and i purchased westinghouse front loader from someone in savannah, ga for $300.00....i arranged with local freight company to ship machine here from start to finish....picking machine up in the person's house in savannah to delivering it to my home in palm springs.....cost $785.00....yes, the shipping cost more....and the machine that i was told was in working condition was dead when it arrived here....still in repair shop...it has been completely rewired, new solenoid, new bearings and gaskets....dont know what total cost will be....so if you wish to purchase machine many miles away, shipping may cost more than the machine....and you wont know the condition until it arrives at your house.....

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Post# 26154-1/29/2003-07:04 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Jetcone Set (frigidaire jetcome set)
MESSAGE: hi greg....i do not know how to post pictures to yahoo...still awaiting arrival of machines but will take pictures with my digital camera... and can send email....yes, i am still waiting for thor....wonder if i will ever find one....

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Post# 26155-1/29/2003-07:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: American classic kitchen question (Set Your Heart on a Crosley!)
MESSAGE: I suspect the picture is an early version of this similar design (with the chrome drawer pulls) from 1954. I remember a neighbor of my grandparents that had the same cabinets without those, but with the slanted drawers as pictured.

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Post# 26156-1/29/2003-07:31 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Buying on eBay (buying on ebay - appliance shipping)
MESSAGE: Craters and Freighters Inc. does a wonderful job for a reasonable price. If there is a branch in the area of the appliance to be shipped, they will pick up, pack and crate it and ship it to you. There is a branch-search function on their website.
LINK: http://www.cratersandfreighters.com/

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Post# 26157-1/29/2003-07:34 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Jetcone Set (frigidaire jetcome set)
MESSAGE: Yahoo photos is very simple to use, just register with Yahoo and then upload photos from files on your computer just like attaching them to emails.

Good luck - Greg

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Post# 26158-1/29/2003-13:08 ||| soharra (Huntsville, Alabama)
SUBJECT: RE: Buying on eBay (buying on ebay - appliance shipping)
MESSAGE: Thanks much! Now, if I can only find that Mobile Maid!

Shawn

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Post# 26159-1/29/2003-13:09 ||| soharra (Huntsville, Alabama)
SUBJECT: RE: Buying on eBay (buying on ebay)
MESSAGE: Ross,

Thanks for your advice!

Shawn

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Post# 26160-1/29/2003-14:17 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Speaking of eBay
MESSAGE: 1956 Maytag dryer in Philadelphia being offered on eBay...

-ph
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2305019221&category=20714

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Post# 26161-1/29/2003-15:42 ||| soharra (Huntsville, Alabama)
SUBJECT: Does Anyone Know Who Junk Yard Guy Is?
MESSAGE: I was out bid by $1.00 for a 1950's GE Undercounter Topload. Does anyone know this guy?

Shawn

LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?viewitem&item=3202036641&ssPageName=ADME:X:ON:US:2

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Post# 26162-1/29/2003-15:43 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay
MESSAGE: Wow!

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Post# 26163-1/29/2003-16:34 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Does Anyone Know Who Junk Yard Guy Is? (Filter-Flo)
MESSAGE: Isn't that the dishwasher that goes with the combo that Jimmy "FilterFlo" won? I bet JunkYardGuy is his aol name...

-ph

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Post# 26164-1/29/2003-16:50 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (WOULD SOMEBODY BID PLEASE!!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Everyone! Would someone PLEASE bid on this dryer??? It's such a classic and would be a shame for someone in the club to not get it. I would love to bid but HAVE NO MORE ROOM!!! Mark

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Post# 26165-1/29/2003-16:53 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Does Anyone Know Who Junk Yard Guy Is?
MESSAGE: If you want to win something on ebay, you have to put in a bid that is the absolute highest you'll pay for the item, because if you don't, someone will wait until THE LAST MINUTE of the bidding process and win the bid sometimes by fifty cents! It can be a real heartbreaker. Mark

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Post# 26166-1/29/2003-17:39 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (WOULD SOMEBODY BID PLEASE!!!)
MESSAGE: Wow! That dryer is as old a me. (It looks likes it in much better shape too! ;-)) I too hope that someone in the club gets it. This is another time when I wish that I lived in a house instead of an apartment. Sigh!

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Post# 26167-1/29/2003-17:50 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Does Anyone Know Who Junk Yard Guy Is? (Filter-Flo)
MESSAGE: Yup, that's Jimmy. He posted a message about winning the auction for the combo washer/dryer and the matching dishwasher in sunny yellow.

Check out this service especially for this type of situation - AuctionSniper.com will post your bid in the very last seconds of the auction so that you won't miss out. You can still be outbid, but your chances are better as close to the end of the auction as possible. I've won several things this way - it's great!
LINK: http://www.auctionsniper.com/

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Post# 26168-1/29/2003-17:52 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay
MESSAGE: That is lovely, saw one of these (gas) at an estate sale a month or so ago. The matching washer is in the warehouse/store in Iowa I found last summer.

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Post# 26169-1/29/2003-21:07 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: RE: Does Anyone Know Who Junk Yard Guy Is? (Filter-Flo)
MESSAGE: Yes Soharra, Im Filter Flo on this club, and use the name Junkyardguy on ebay. I won the auction, but go back and check the bid history. You will see that it was you that first outbid me, as I was the first bidder. And remember, whether you use acutionsnipe or not, its the HIGHEST bidder that wins. The Westinghouse slant front pair on ebay right now its going to be an interesting auction; We never used to bid against each other on auctions, guess thats a thing of the past..........

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Post# 26170-1/29/2003-21:23 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Does Anyone Know Who Junk Yard Guy Is? (Filter-Flo (bidding against))
MESSAGE: For what its worth, I do not have a problem with any club member bidding against me. If someone is willing to spend more than me, so be it. I hope whomever gets these machines will take care of them, enjoy them, and maybe share them with other club members to an extent that is comfortable enough for them.

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Post# 26171-1/29/2003-21:35 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Does Anyone Know Who Junk Yard Guy Is? (Are you home yet? Or on the way?)
MESSAGE: Jimmy,
I looked up what you won these machines for and I could not believe the deal that you got on them! That is wonderful! I wonder if the only reason the combo did not go for big bucks was because of it lacking a window. I know that last pink GE combo that was on Ebay went for over a grand. I don't think we ever heard anything else about that one. Didn't a club member buy it?
Well, you are lucky, and I am happy you got them.
I was wondering if you got any history on the machines while you were there? I wonder when was the last time they were ran.
Well, I am happy for you.
I hope that you have a safe trip home if you are not home already.
Take some pictures!
Brent

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Post# 26172-1/29/2003-21:39 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Does Anyone Know Who Junk Yard Guy Is? (You are such a nice Gentleman!)
MESSAGE: Greg you are so nice!
Although I love that pair, I can't think about shucking out that much money, then paying shipping on top of that. I am sure shipping would be over $1,500 for the two.
Can JIMMY pick them up on his way home? :) Where are they. I need to look at the eBay ad again.
Happy bidding to all!
Brent

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Post# 26173-1/29/2003-21:41 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (Hou much did they want for it?)
MESSAGE: Greg,
Sounds like you have been working like crazy!
Why did you pass up that gas Maytag? Were they asking too much?
I know that you have been looking for a gas dryer.
Do tell....
Get some rest!
Brent

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Post# 26174-1/29/2003-21:49 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Bauknecht washing machines brochure 1964/65 including "Kochautomat" (Some technical information (Thanks for posting))
MESSAGE: Louis,
I loved the brochures! Those were very good looking machines.
Do you ever see any of these models that have made it this far? Were the commercial machines very popular in the Laundry Mats? Do you ever see the old ones still running?
I love the looks of the fronts, and the controls look very ahead of it's time from the other machines that I have seen in your brochure collection.
Thanks again!
Brent

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Post# 26175-1/29/2003-22:26 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Buying on eBay (buying on ebay - appliance shipping MOBILE MAID)
MESSAGE: Shawn:
check this link out.
Jetcone


LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2304024637&category=20715

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Post# 26176-1/29/2003-22:44 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (1956 Maytag dryer)
MESSAGE: There's a gas dryer just like htis for sale at my local former Maytag dealer that now specializes in refurbed appliances.

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Post# 26177-1/29/2003-22:50 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Does Anyone Know Who Junk Yard Guy Is? (Are you home yet? Or on the way?)
MESSAGE: Jimmy, I echo what Brent said. Huggs, Bob

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Post# 26178-1/29/2003-22:54 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (1956 Maytag dryer)
MESSAGE: Realllllyyyy . . . hmmmmmm . . . and you have all that space in the garage . . .

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Post# 26179-1/29/2003-23:43 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (Hou much did they want for it?)
MESSAGE: Hi Brent--

I'm home in the evenings, but still seem to keep myself busy around here too, wish it was warmer so I could work in the garage.

The Maytag dryer I saw was marked $10 and was $5 on Sunday, but it was more than likely "trapped" in the remodeled basement of the house. I didn't feel like messing with it for a dryer I really didn't want anyway. The Maytag Master washer (wringer) was there as well for $25 (12.50) I want a BIG capacity gas dryer with a hot burner to use out in the garage - like my GE in gas or that 68 Whirlpool on ebay a while back with the paneling on the door. All in due time...

Hope you are well - Greg

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Post# 26180-1/30/2003-01:43 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: RE: Does Anyone Know Who Junk Yard Guy Is? (You are such a nice Gentleman!)
MESSAGE: Hi Brent, thanks for the kind words. I found out a little of the history of the GE Combo and dishwaser: The ebay people I bought them from were very charming people. They purchased the house from the original owner, the house having been built in 1955. It was an original All Electric Gold Medallion Home with a complete GE kitchen in it, including the wall refrigerator. The refrigerator has been replaced by the time they bought the house, but all the rest of the kitchen was still intact. They said that this house had been the model house for the development, and that Ronald Reagan had actually been present for the open houses and showings. That makes senses logically, since he was the spokesman for GE during that time period. The items I got had the original owners manuals with them, but had not been used in a long time. The seals do look very dry, as is typical. The had the wall oven and pushbutton cooktop and offered them to me free if I wanted them, I did take the cooktop, but did not have room for the wall oven. Its still there if anyone wants it. I can put you in touch with the owner if need be......Im currently in LA until Sunday, and them am going to Orange Cty to visit Rich (GOLittleSport) from the club. Met Ross Roberts and Rich from Palm Springs last week and we had a nice dinner together. Driving back thru Phoenix to pick up the Frigidaire SkinnyMini that i bought there, then back on the road home for Ohio. Will be home about the middle of Feb.....Miss you all, and certainly enjoy the club and posting while Im far away from home........Jimmy

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Post# 26181-1/30/2003-02:30 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Bauknecht washing machines brochure 1964/65 including "Kochautomat" (Some technical information (Thanks for posting))
MESSAGE: Hi Brent,

I never saw those machines around when I was young and I never saw them later. I guess they never made it to this part of the country. Besides that I think that they weren't very popular, I guess they were pretty expensive. Also Constructa was leader in the boiling market. When I was young I knew at least three households that had one.

In the Netherlands almost all laundromats had Miele machines, I can't remember seeing other machines being used, but I'm sure there were others. Later Electrolux became popular and took over quite a part of the market. Laundromats disappeared almost in the eighties when almost everybody had it's own washer, but there are some new ones now. In this town with 170,000 people there are now 5 laundromats.

The controls were actually not that different from other machines from that time. Most of them had a timer, a temperature control and some sort of cycle selection. Miele had toggle switches for cycle selection, Bosch and Bauknecht had a third rotary control. Some TOL machines had a single knob like modern Mieles have.

Louis

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Post# 26182-1/30/2003-05:57 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Does Anyone Know Who Junk Yard Guy Is? (Filter-Flo)
MESSAGE: So many things have changed recently, Jimmy. It's almost impossible to avoid bidding against someone else in the club these days. Perhaps that was the original intention, but the club has grown so much in the past year and the supply of vintage appliances appears to be shrinking. So it seems that the natural end is something like this.

Another principle of the original club that seems to be only a memory was to try and avoid having washers selling for very high prices. At the time, the concern was that once used appliance dealers figured out that people wanted these washers, prices would skyrocket - creating a hugely inflated "market price". Yet, you will remember that when Robert (Unimatic) sold his turquoise Frigidaire some months ago, the bidding war on e-bay drove the price over $1,000. I am sure I still don't understand why it was OK for us to drive prices up ourselves on e-bay, but objected to a used appliance store charging an incredible price...

I am not sure if club members bidding against each other on e-bay is such a good idea either. It can lead to bad feelings especially when you have a few people with deep pockets that can and will outbid those of more modest means on any auction. In effect then, these are the people setting the pricing structure at a high level. But I am equally as unsure exactly what the right answer is either........

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Post# 26183-1/30/2003-06:35 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Does Anyone Know Who Junk Yard Guy Is? (Jimmy you sound like you are having a blast!)
MESSAGE: Jimmy,
Thanks for that interesting information about you new aquired GE Combo, dishwasher and range top. The history of the house alone was amazing.
I am glad that you are having such a great time on your trip. Actually envious.
Have a safe trip back home, and take pictures of your new toys for all of us.
Brent

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Post# 26184-1/30/2003-06:42 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (Trapped!)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg,
Funny how people remodel and rebuild never thinking that they will need to get something out or in at some point of their lives.
I bet that you will find an Americana gas GE soon. I just feel it. So, I guess that you are using your electric Americana as your BIG dryer? Has your opionion stayed the same about it?
And about that Whirpool Gas dryer that was on eBay... Didn't a club member get that one? I never heard anything about it.
You do have a gas dryer hooked up don't you?
Brent

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Post# 26185-1/30/2003-07:22 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire Tech Talk 1958
MESSAGE: For anyone interested in the Frigidaire washers of 1958, here's a must have. This manual has an excellent section on repairing and rebuilding the unimatic mechanism (1947-58) and looks to be in very nice condition.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=20713&item=2305409289

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Post# 26186-1/30/2003-07:24 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: POD
MESSAGE: Far be it from me to criticise Norge, but I believe I would have rethought the idea of the "NORGE RIPPLETTE" wash system. I'm not sure I would want to trust my cashmere to something with that name!

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Post# 26187-1/30/2003-07:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Does Anyone Know Who Junk Yard Guy Is? (You are such a nice Gentleman!)
MESSAGE: Very interesting story on the appliances - I'll bet that was a beautiful kitchen.

If this was installed in 1955, this washer is probably the one Jetcone mentioned with a transmission instead of the later, three belt design- the very first GE combo. Quite a find and the dishwasher too! Congrats again and have a safe trip!

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Post# 26188-1/30/2003-07:39 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (Trapped!)
MESSAGE: I looked around that basement and saw the sharp turns and steep steps going up and knew then I wouldn't be the owner of that dryer. I wasn't interested in that one much anyway as I already have the 54 Speed Queen dryer in gas hooked up, but it's a smaller capacity that can't handle big loads from the Maytag or GE very well.

I do like the GE dryer although it does have it's drawbacks. It is electric and therefore much less efficient than gas and then there is the lint/airflow issue that gets annoying. Consumer Reports didn't care for the huge door as you couldn't have a basket in front of the door and open or close it without moving the basket. I thought this was a little silly at first, but it turns out that it is a little annoying, especially since there is limited room where I have it installed - too much crap in my garage, I know, but still a valid complaint. I do love the huge opening and the capacity is wonderful and of course, it is beautiful - even in gold!

I'm not sure who ended up getting the WP on ebay - too far to ship a dryer

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Post# 26189-1/30/2003-09:18 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: POD
MESSAGE: I agree with you about the riplette name. But the POD is fantastic. One of the best we've ever had. I'd love to see one of these fine 56's in pink, green or yellow too. I'm glad Robert had this machine in his collection and in the cyber museum for us to enjoy.

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Post# 26190-1/30/2003-09:28 ||| julimccrary (texas)
SUBJECT: youngstown kitchen cabinet
MESSAGE: I have a Youngstown kitchen cabinet from 1940s-1950s which had a dishwasher to the right of the sink. The appliance has been "gutted". I want info on possibility of restoration. I have never seen one before and know nothing about them but cabinet and sink are in excellent condition.

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Post# 26191-1/30/2003-14:21 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (Trapped!)
MESSAGE: That Whirlpool dryer was brought by Surgilator_68.

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Post# 26192-1/30/2003-15:09 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (Trapped!)
MESSAGE: That was bought for the museum and is now in Maryland.

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Post# 26193-1/30/2003-19:30 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (Whirlpool at the Museum from Georgia!)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the update Jason.
That is a great place for it!
Did you hear if they hooked it up and tried it out?
I was going to bid on it, but was out of town at the time.
Brent

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Post# 26194-1/30/2003-21:08 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (1956 Maytag dryer)
MESSAGE: You sound just like Steve 1-18 Glenn. Remember though, I live in an all-electric house. No gas.

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Post# 26195-1/30/2003-21:36 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (1956 Maytag dryer)
MESSAGE: Well . . . you don't necessarily have to run it, just give it a nice home!

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Post# 26196-1/30/2003-23:07 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (1956 Maytag dryer)
MESSAGE: It would drive me crazy not being able to use it. After all, why have a vintage appliance if one can't use it?

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Post# 26197-1/30/2003-23:34 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (1956 Maytag dryer)
MESSAGE: You could plug it in and use it for fluffing pillows... or better yet, have your shop convert it to propane and buy your fuel at the market!

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Post# 26198-1/30/2003-23:36 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: youngstown kitchen cabinet
MESSAGE: How "gutted" is the dishwasher?

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Post# 26199-1/31/2003-00:38 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (1956 Maytag dryer)
MESSAGE: Why not convert it to electric?

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Post# 26200-1/31/2003-06:06 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (1956 Maytag dryer)
MESSAGE: Are we sure it is gas to begin with? I always thought any Maytag dryer with that little door at the bottom was a gas model, but one of those pics shows that door open and it doesn't look like any kind of pilot light assembly I have seen before. I almost thought it was a condenser dryer because it looked as if it was a little drawer that pulled out. Of course I didn't have my glasses on when I looked at the picture so it was a bit fuzzy.......

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Post# 26201-1/31/2003-07:35 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (1956 Maytag dryer (It is Electric))
MESSAGE: The Maytag on Ebay is electric.
Gansky was talking about seeing the Gas model at an estate sale.
Postings were blurred. Not your eyes.
Brent

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Post# 26202-1/31/2003-07:52 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (1956 Maytag dryer Swap)
MESSAGE: Brent, that is a cute dryer on ebay! I love the styling. I would love to have it but it always comes down to choosing between space for that "next" washer find or having another dryer. That seems to be the choice we face in this hobby.
What I think should happen is Uni converts to ALL dryers and I take his washers and convert to ALL washers,then that way ALL the appliances get saved. Then I ship the clean wet clothes out to Minnie to get dried. And Robert can ship them back folded.
wahttya say robert????????
jet

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Post# 26203-1/31/2003-08:57 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (1956 Maytag dryer I think you have something there!)
MESSAGE: Jon,
You are so funny.
What is your next project that you will be working on as far as your machines go? Have you been using your GE Combo around the clock?
Wanted to ask you if you have ever worked on the Launderall machine that you have. Do you know what it needs? Tell us a little about it. I think it is so cool that you have one.
Thanks Jon!
Brent

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Post# 26204-1/31/2003-11:38 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: More on American Kitchens
MESSAGE: Some days ago I posted a question about a kitchen. Well, I put my snowboots on and went to the shop that sells them. They gave me a copy of a brochure, I scanned only the frontpage since that was the only one they had copied in color. I also put some other pictures, that I eventually found, in my Yahoo album.

This kitchen was designed by Raymond Loewy (1893 - 1986), who was also the designer of the Greyhound bus, the Shell logo, the Lucky Strike package and also designed for Studebaker and NASA. This kitchen was introduced in the US in 1956 and in the Netherlands in 1959, where it was produced too. The Dutch manufacturer went broke in 1970. It looks very similar to the Crosley kitchen Greg posted a picture of(thanks again!), only this one doesn't have the handles on the drawers. So fat chance this kitchen was sold in the US by Crosley, but I haven't found anything about that. Confusing to me was the fact that this kitchen was named in the Netherlands different than in the US. Originally this kitchen was named "Look", but in the Netherlands they were sold under the name "American Kitchens".

Overhere in the Netherlands there are two dealers for them now that buy old kitchens and restore them. I have never seen them as a kid, but as the guy from the shop said:"How many houses do you see from the inside anyway?" (Not enough!) According to this guy there are enough left to keep them selling for a while.

Louis
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/lst?.dir=/American+kitchens&.view=t

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Post# 26205-1/31/2003-12:29 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: More on American Kitchens
MESSAGE: They are simply beautiful!

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Post# 26206-1/31/2003-17:09 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: More on American Kitchens
MESSAGE: Thanks for the update - your research is interesting, perhaps someone will know the US manufacturer of these cabinets. I found this site a while ago about evolution of the kitchen and housewife over the years, it has another picture of the "Look" kitchen by Raymond Loewy & Assoc. under Dreaming the Postwar Kitchen. There are also interesting pages on the history of electricity in the kitchen, cooking utensils, etc.
LINK: http://uwadmnweb.uwyo.edu/AMS/WebCt_Mall/myweb/consumergoods/consumerism_and_kitchen_goods.htm

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Post# 26207-1/31/2003-18:13 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: Today's POD (1/31/03)
MESSAGE: I had to laugh when I read the text that accompanied the Hotpoint ad in today's POD. It brags about the fact that the washer could "handle tiny 2-lb loads without special attachments". Hotpoint is a division of GE. The model's hair style, the 16-lb claimed capacity for the washer, the removable teflon coated oven panels, and design of the fridge, that are also part of the ad, suggests that Hotpoint ran this ad in the around the same time that GE was running ads that bragged about its "mini-basket" for very small loads. LOL! Talk about two divisions of the same company not knowing what each was doing when it came to advertising!

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Post# 26208-1/31/2003-18:41 ||| soharra (Huntsville, Alabama)
SUBJECT: RE: Does Anyone Know Who Junk Yard Guy Is? (Filter-Flo)
MESSAGE: Filter-Flo:

Thanks for the reply. I'll now recognize you on eBay. Hope you enjoy the machine! Let me know how it works! I am still on the lookout for a similar model (prefer the portable, but would take the undercounter...but either must have the impeller-style wash system {not the spray-arm system}).

All's fair that end's fair....I was out of the house during the last hours of the bid. I would have had to pay crating/shipping costs anyway!

Good Luck!

Shawn

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Post# 26209-1/31/2003-19:59 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Georgia wash-in(s) (HI parunner, DW lover here too)
MESSAGE: hey im into dishwashers also. looking for a top loader or unique front loader. Building a breakfast bar & hope to get a old vintage machine to add to it. Anything you could send me info or pic's would be greatly appreciated. Michael mikepaquette@hotmail.com

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Post# 26210-1/31/2003-20:23 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (1956 Maytag dryer Swap)
MESSAGE: Jon, I think the plan has potential, but I perceive it's fraught with wrinkles. Although, you might end up with the short end of the stick given it's more expensive to ship damp clothes than dry ones. And there's the issue of the combos. Do they classify as a washer or a dryer? Let's see, Robert has 2 combos, how many do you have? I can't remember, I think three is what I'm taking a stab at, but there may be one or two more that I am unaware of in your collection. There's also another issue that you might get short-changed with (now I'm just trying to be objective here and thinking of both sides here). You know I love you and Uni both dearly so I can say this without offense (and ahem, I have room to talk LOL) --It would still be more expensive for you. I mean, your laundry volume would probably still be more than the combination of Robert & Neal's together simply because neither you nor I are slight in any way. Yes, I've even thought about sending my voluminous amounts of laundry to Robert's, Steve's, Greg's, or your house (& flying to the locale for this maxi-wash-in), just so ALL my wash can be done in classic washers and treated with so much respect than my Shredmore. But the expense every two months would still be unBEARable for me. So, I think in the interst of fairness to both parties & collections concerned, maybe respective washers & dryers should stay in their current homes. I do have one suggestion though, MAKE YOUR BASEMENTS LARGER. Start digging new tunnels and spaces toward your neighbors' basements!!! (Well, I'll say it already, I can feel the slap from one of those six vanes coming. If I weather those slaps, does that make it a weather vane?)

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Post# 26211-1/31/2003-20:28 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD (1/31/03)
MESSAGE: Mike, I disagree. I thinnk both divisions knew what each was doing. It waas simply market positioning of the respective product/feature mix that uniquely set each other apart at the time. I mean, look at P&G with Tide & cheer back then. Both were excellent products, just pitched to different audiences or consumer segments--much like GE & Hotpoint.

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Post# 26212-1/31/2003-20:32 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: congratulations Greg M
MESSAGE: Congratulations are in order ... the bidding has closed and it looks like GregM just got himself a beautiful Westinghouse Laundromat set. I expect to see pics soon!!! Great buy for such a nice set. Enjoy!!!

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Post# 26213-2/1/2003-00:58 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: congratulations Greg M
MESSAGE: GregM, really happy for ya and proud of ya for winnin'!!! At this rate, I sense a wash-in convention at your house some day too!!!

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Post# 26214-2/1/2003-04:52 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (1956 Maytag dryer Swap)
MESSAGE: Let's do that with other things too. For example with pets. One gets all the dogs....

Too far away for a slap!!!!

Louis

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Post# 26215-2/1/2003-08:29 ||| julimccrary (texas)
SUBJECT: RE: youngstown kitchen cabinet
MESSAGE: There is nothing mechanical underneath the cabinet.When you look inside from the top all you see is the tub with a hole down through the center to the ground beneath. It does still have the cover with a glass window in the center.

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Post# 26216-2/1/2003-08:39 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: 50's 30" GE DW
MESSAGE: At another site there was a reference made to a GE DW from the 50's that was top load, built in and 30" wide. It is claimed that it had a motorized tub that worked "like a garage door opener" to slide in and out. We had a 1954 Sunny Yellow slide out GE, but I don't remember anything like what they discribed. Can anyone offer any info? (think how much fun you could have with a remote controlled slide out drawer!!!)

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Post# 26217-2/1/2003-08:55 ||| filekar1 (italy)
SUBJECT: RE: More Bauknecht brochure pictures
MESSAGE: Hi foraloysius is very interesting this old Bauknecht brochure.
I suppose that Constructa and Bauknecht was the same brandt because my grandmother Constructa was like B. commercial but it was only a 5 kg washer, bolted down.
I remember another thing; because it was a kockautomat it had two drain hose one to drain water and one to drain condensed steam when boiling the withes. In Brochure there is a photo called "using it as a portable" and B had two hoses in the sink. These were the two hoses that had C. too, or it was a suds return sistem?
My aunt had a washer that have an automatic suds return it was an INDESIT washer, built in Italy in the middle of the '60, a front loader with an inside suds return sistem known as "vasca di recupero" and it looked like B in this photo. BYE

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Post# 26218-2/1/2003-11:04 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (1956 Maytag dryer Swap)
MESSAGE: GASP!

How many vanes does a Roto-Flex agitator have - we'll mount it on the end of a motor shaft and turn it into a slapping machine!

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Post# 26219-2/1/2003-11:25 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: Wash-In / workshop
MESSAGE: Hi All!,

On my way over to Jon Charles house for some washer fun. Let's hope we don't have to call the Fire Dept. to get rid of all the SUDS! HAHAHA.

Hopefully we will get some pics to post.

Cheers

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Post# 26220-2/1/2003-12:00 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD (1/31/03)
MESSAGE: Good point!

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Post# 26221-2/1/2003-13:58 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: POD 2/1/2003
MESSAGE: Love those old Sears ads and catalog clips!

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Post# 26222-2/1/2003-14:39 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Maytag tops!
MESSAGE: I just got a set of Maytag tops!This meaning the Control board and the lid to the washer, every thing still on its hinges,blah blah blah. But, They are a Matching set from the seventies! I love the way the control board looks, with the dial in the center, it is sooooo dreamy!The washer top is in mint condition, no dents, no scratches, and no cracks! The dryer has some cracking at the corners of the conrol board, and it has some scratches, but they are both beautiful!

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Post# 26223-2/1/2003-19:08 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag tops!
MESSAGE: That's great Jamie! Enjoy them!

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Post# 26224-2/1/2003-20:46 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag tops! (Maytag tops)
MESSAGE: Hi Jamie,
I want to wish you best of luck and enjoy the set.
Peter

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Post# 26225-2/1/2003-21:09 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag tops!
MESSAGE: Very nice!

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Post# 26226-2/1/2003-21:17 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: congratulations Greg M (thnx)
MESSAGE: thank you tcox...............I hope to drive out and pick them up next weekend or latter half of this week. Pics will follow..........

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Post# 26227-2/1/2003-21:18 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: congratulations Greg M (thnx)
MESSAGE: thanks Bob, I am very lucky/fortunate ............

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Post# 26228-2/1/2003-21:21 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Wash-In / workshop (great time)
MESSAGE: We had a great time, Bruce I hope your able to get some photos out here at some point. I know your very busy now, but I just wanted to say how much I loved the photos of your collection. I am sure the club will enjoy them just as much. Great to see you today...

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Post# 26229-2/1/2003-21:38 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: Kenmore Suspension
MESSAGE: Today I was in the basement de-greasing my 24" Kenmore. :-))
This machine is greasy and grimy from the inside-out...

As we all know, a washer in a kitchen catches more grease than the stove. :-((
So I must use more Simple Green to get the rest of the job done! But what I seen in this machine is hair, hair and more greasy hair all on the interior cabinet and parts! More on the machine less in the tub, I wonder why?

This machine works fine and not much needs to be done on this machine but to replace the water inlet valve, bed of nails lint filter, possible suspension balls and a much needed paint job. Also I like to place sound reducing noise on the cabinet to dampen the humming.

Here's my question, the basket leans toward the right; off center. If the balls on the suspension are worn, could it cause the basket to be pulled to the right?

I've added this link even though it may be spinning, its balanced: make note on the position of the basket it's off center as you can see!

Please let me know what to do,

Larry
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/lr9711/vwp?.dir=/Vintage+appliances+found+in+NY/My+new+collection/Kenmore+Agitator&.dnm=Portable+Kenmore+1.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t

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Post# 26230-2/2/2003-01:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Another Westy on Ebay
MESSAGE: Well what do you know, here's another Westinghouse washer!

Model LH-4
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2505327810&category=12

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Post# 26231-2/2/2003-11:27 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Suspension
MESSAGE: Hadn't seen all those pics before, nice!

Regarding the off-center -- is it maybe the tub ring that's a little off-kilter, and not the suspension? I've seen that happen before, but not really in that way -- mostly I've seen tub rings turned a little clockwise or c-clockwise such that the opening in the ring doesn't quite align with the machine's top.

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Post# 26232-2/2/2003-12:41 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Suspension (Link is messed up)
MESSAGE: Give me time to reset the link, changing and rearranging folders caused the link to go out of balanced, sorry!

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Post# 26233-2/2/2003-13:25 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Wash-In / workshop (great time)
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg. I had a great time also. It seems that every time we get together at Jon's the time just flys by. Before I knew it it was 9 pm. Thanks for the many laughs and conversation. Let me know what's up with the Westies.

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Post# 26234-2/2/2003-16:01 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Wash-In / workshop (great time)
MESSAGE: I can just imagine you had a wonderful time. I wish I could have been there!!

Louis

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Post# 26235-2/2/2003-18:03 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: Today's POD 2/2/03 (Kelvinator)
MESSAGE: I have a question. IN the ad copy, it states the washer had timed softener & bleach dispensers. With a solid tub, how did this work. I'm familiar with the WCI65 and similar models with the dispenser in the panel that was timed for liquid detergent and softener, but how did Kelvinator accomplish this?? I hope someone can shed some light on this for me. Also this is the first time I've noticed the buttons on top of the panel, very cool, kinda like a year or two of the LK, although a short guy like me and nearsighted at age 12, this would have been another horrible washer for me to try & use.

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Post# 26236-2/2/2003-18:11 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Wash-In / workshop (great time (pics))
MESSAGE: Greg, I couldn't agree more. Pics of Bruce's collection PUHLEEZE!!! And more of your pics of your additions to your collection too Greg. AND BTW!!!, did anyone manage to take pics of THE wash-in/workshop????? I guess I must email Al and see about the pics he took, after all, he's such an extraordinatory dog.

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Post# 26237-2/2/2003-19:48 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Wash-In / workshop (great time (pics))
MESSAGE: Bob- AL definetly has pictures of Sat Mass Wash In! I will wake him up and get him to post ASAP! He is such a lazy dog!
jet

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Post# 26238-2/2/2003-21:21 ||| steved (Albany, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: 50's 30" GE DW (the " Empress" )
MESSAGE: Yes, Comboboy, I remember this dishwasher, it was the "Empress" model... a 30" version, I think only made for a year or 2 (59, 60). Since I worked for an dealer in Schenectady, NY, the home of GE, many of the developments were built with all GE appliances. This 30" model was very popular with a particular builder, as I remember many homes in his development having it - I had to install new dishwashers with two 3" filler strips on each side, I think they were available from GE at the time..(72-75). The motorized drawer opener was a bomb, cause it was mounted on the base of the unit, under the tub, where water could leak and screw up the drive chain - but it was a neat idea, something sorely missing from most present-day appliance lines.... SteveD

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Post# 26239-2/2/2003-22:51 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD 2/2/03 (Kelvinator)
MESSAGE: The dispensers are on the top of the panel, buttons below the timer dial - 10 on the TOL model. The dispensers were similar in function to the WCI-65 - wells that released contents with a solenoid valve.

If you look very, very closely, you can see the off balance button on the top right side is popped up in the picture indicating an off-balance load!

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Post# 26240-2/3/2003-00:38 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Suspension (Link is messed up)
MESSAGE: All is good so far and take note of the distance between the basket and side walls.....
The basket is about inches 2 1/2 inches from the right-side wall and the left is close to 3 1/2 inches from the left-side wall. The basket is not centered. And here is another photo with the top down.

LINK: http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/lr9711/vwp?.dir=/My+new+collection&.dnm=She+needs+more+de-greasing.jpg&.src=bc&.view=l&.done=http%3a//briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/lr9711/lst%3f%26.dir=/My%2bnew%2bcollection%26.src=bc%26.view=l

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Post# 26241-2/3/2003-05:44 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: vintage dishwashers
MESSAGE: I am looking for a vintage dishwasher. Not sure what I want yet,still think it might be a top loader but ?? If any one has info or pictures to share of dishwashers that are for sale Please send info to mikepaquette@sympatico (new email address) This one will not fill up @ can accept much larger files than hotmail Thanks for your time . Michael

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Post# 26242-2/3/2003-05:52 ||| Mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: Vintage Dishwashers proper email add.
MESSAGE: I am looking for a vintage dishwasher, not sure what kind yet but still slide towards a top loader. If anyone has any info or pic's that you would care to share of machines that might be for sale I would appreciate it. Michael mikepaquette@sympatico.ca

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Post# 26243-2/3/2003-06:39 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: 50's 30" GE DW (Schenectady??)
MESSAGE: Steved:
What dealer in Schenectady did you work for?? And who was that builder that used them?
Jon

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Post# 26244-2/3/2003-12:04 ||| steved (Albany, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: 50's 30" GE DW (Schenectady??)
MESSAGE: Hi Jon, I worked for Roy LaMontagne on State St from 1972 to 1975. I mostly did dishwasher and built-ins installations for Roy, as well as some special installations (washers in the kitchens, water heaters, gas lines....). I think the builder was DelZotto, in Harmon Estates, off Route 50 in Burnt Hills......SteveD

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Post# 26245-2/3/2003-17:54 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: 1910 CENTRAL VAC (OR THE REMAINS OF SAME)
MESSAGE: Check out the section called "Steam Boiler Replacement Pictorial" this HVAC company found a house that had a central vac system circa 1910!
LINK: http://www.appelheat.com/jobs/jobs.html

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Post# 26246-2/3/2003-19:36 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: 1910 CENTRAL VAC (OR THE REMAINS OF SAME) (Very interesting website.)
MESSAGE: That was very interesting.
I love heating devices.
I can't get over the shape of some of the pictures that they posted. Shows how some houses catch fire.
FLAMES ROLLING OUT? I WONDER IF THAT IS NORMAL?
The central vac thing was very interesting.
Brent

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Post# 26247-2/3/2003-19:49 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1910 CENTRAL VAC (OR THE REMAINS OF SAME) (Very interesting website.)
MESSAGE: A few years ago I looked at a house in Avondale Estates that had one of the Octopus Gravity Furnaces. The realestate agent was quick to point out why I would be smart to change it. She could not understand that I wanted to keep it. It was the best part of the house!!

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Post# 26248-2/3/2003-22:43 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Living Better Electrically With GE
MESSAGE: I've been playing with the 1974 GE Dispensall washer I found at a sale a while ago and posted some pics of it in action. In the pictures you can see how the air-controlled valve controls the direction of the Filter-Flo stream. When the Dispensall unit is in place under the lid, the water streams are directed into either the detergent or fabric softener dispensers flushing their contents into the tub.
LINK: http://edit.photos.yahoo.com/edit/gansky1/fupload_parent?.dir=/General+Electric&.src=ph&.action=upload&.view=t&.vty=p&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/General%2bElectric%26.src=ph%26.view=t

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Post# 26249-2/3/2003-22:49 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1910 CENTRAL VAC (OR THE REMAINS OF SAME)
MESSAGE: This is very cool - what a marvel that must have been in 1918 to have an electric central vacuum system.

The pictures of the heating systems are interesting too, I had friends with an oil fired gravity furnace in their duplex rental. What a waste of fuel!

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Post# 26250-2/3/2003-23:19 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (1956 Maytag dryer)
MESSAGE: Gas dryers -- including Maytags -- that had standing pilot lights had a door on lower front of the dryer so you could gain access to the pilot. I'm guessing that the "drawer" is actually the lint filter.

Philco, Norge, and Norge-made (Montgomery) Ward's Signiture dryers had lint filters that were located near the floor. The Sept. 1966 issue of Consumer Reports objected to this location, calling it "inconvenient". The Sept. 1969 issue of Consumer Reports offered the following comment below a pic of the bottom rated Philco: "Philco's filter, close to the floor and masked by a panel may tempt you to neglect your filter-cleaning chores."

In the late 70's, one of my aunts was given a Norge Time Line dryer from the estate of a neighbor. She used it for several months, before I told her about the filter. This was the first dryer she ever owned (at the time she was still using a Maytag wringer washer) and she didn't know that there was a filter or that she had to clean it. She wasn't given the instruction booklet. The filter was easy to miss, both because its location near the floor and because you had to lower a panel to gain access to it. I'm convinced that the fact that the filter wasn't cleaned (until I came along) contributed to its untimely demise shortly thereafter. :-( (BTW, this machine HAD to be the noisiest dryer I've ever heard -- even after the filter was cleaned. It was in the basement and you could hear it no matter where you were in my aunt's house.)


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Post# 26251-2/3/2003-23:22 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Dishwashers proper email add. (Ebay is a goldmine!)
MESSAGE: Here is a beautiful early GE top loading dishwasher in Mass. Someone should save this!!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2306117949&category=20715

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Post# 26252-2/4/2003-02:17 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Living Better Electrically With GE
MESSAGE: Suds-return system, LOL!!

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Post# 26253-2/4/2003-05:59 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Living Better Electrically With GE (Looked Like Fun!)
MESSAGE: Greg,
Looked like you very having a stress relieving time there with your GE. It was so cool to see how the water was diverted for each of the dispensers that were in the lid. I wondered how it worked, and know with your teaching us, I know. Thanks
Why in the world did they throw out the dispenser part? It is so obvious that they took good care of the machine. I wonder what was the deal?
I loved the "suds return". When my mom had GE Washers, I always remembered that little hole in the agitator when it was filling for the rinse, and usually it did have suds coming out.
Have you done any type of test to see the washing ability of that straight agitator? I am sure that you have other GE agitator's somewhere there. Have you put one of them on?
Thanks for the pictures.
Brent

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Post# 26254-2/4/2003-06:06 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Dishwashers proper email add. (Ebay is a goldmine! )
MESSAGE: That is such a cool dishwasher!
Any guess of the exact year?
I remember seeing one like this in a "Post" magazine. It was also showing the cabinets. Seemed like they were all made by GE. "GE Kitchens" or something like that. I remember also that they had the square electric hot water tank also built into the kitchen. It was hard to tell the dishwasher from the hot water tank. Then I thought the front handle on the dishwasher would give it away. Also the way the cabinet tops were shaped, it looked like a seamless top from the actual cabinet top, to the dishwasher top to the hot water tank top. I was going to buy the magazine, but he wanted $15. Nah.
Anyway, I think the Post magazine was like 1946 or something.
Thanks for the link.
Brent

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Post# 26255-2/4/2003-06:21 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (1956 Maytag dryer(noisy Norge))
MESSAGE: Hi Mike,

I found my '54 Norge Time Line Dryer on the side of the road, amazingly, it works great, and is ironically very, very quiet. Maybe the lack of cleaning the filter contributed to the noise you heard on yours. Do you still have it ? Take care... -GregM

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Post# 26256-2/4/2003-08:42 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Living Better Electrically With GE (Pictures)
MESSAGE: Greg,

I can't view the pictures. It looks like your link was to edit. It will not allow me to see them.

Steve1-18

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Post# 26257-2/4/2003-09:13 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Where is he?
MESSAGE: Where is Unimatic1140? I haven't heard from him in a while.

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Post# 26258-2/4/2003-09:31 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Living Better Electrically With GE (Pictures)
MESSAGE: Ditto!!! And the funny thing is that the gold bar across the top says ERREUR. Greg, are you using Canadian Yahoo?

-ph

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Post# 26259-2/4/2003-10:18 ||| Jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Ironrite #95
MESSAGE: In one of my hurried moments, I closed the lid to the Ironrite incorrectly and broke the lamp shade. Do anyone of you have an extra sitting around that I could buy from you? It is model #95, I believe the only one with the lamp. Let me know! Thanks, Don

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Post# 26260-2/4/2003-11:34 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Living Better Electrically With GE (Pictures)
MESSAGE: It worked for me.

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Post# 26261-2/4/2003-12:30 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (1956 Maytag dryer(noisy Norge))
MESSAGE: Greg,
Congrats on the curb-side treasure!!
I am also a fan of Norge laundry appliances. The extra noise is worth the speedier drying time due to the oversized blower. I have had good luck with 2 newer versions of this dryer and have even put off buying a newer Whirlpool Duet because of it. the only thing I wish I could change was perhaps adding a stainless steel interior like on the Amana's.
-Alex

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Post# 26262-2/4/2003-12:32 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: indexing wash tub an old idea?
MESSAGE: Did any of the older washer designs incoporate an indexing wash tub like a new Frigidaire I bought for my mom?
-Alex

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Post# 26263-2/4/2003-16:53 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Living Better Electrically With GE (Pictures)
MESSAGE: Yahoo was acting very strange last night, it took forever to upload and then I couldn't find them for a while. Anyway - here's the correct link now:
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/General+Electric&.src=ph&.dnm=GE+Dispensall+Clean+and+Ready.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/General%2bElectric%26.src=ph%26.view=t

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Post# 26264-2/4/2003-16:54 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Living Better Electrically With GE (Pictures)
MESSAGE: I got that several times trying to upload the pics last night!

ITEMNOTFOUND in huge red letters too...

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Post# 26265-2/4/2003-17:37 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (1956 Maytag dryer(noisy Norge))
MESSAGE: Hi Greg,

Unfortunately, the Norge was my aunt's. She lives near Pittsburgh or about 5 hours or so from where I live in New Jersey. I don't get to visit as often as I like and it disappeared between visits. :-( (It happened when she decided to replace her Maytag wringer with a Kenmore automatic in the late 70's.) I would have given just about any thing to be able to save it. I'm glad that you were able to save the one you found. :-) Congrats. What a wonderful find! Those Time Lines (both washers and dryers) are among my all time favorite machines!

Take care,

Mike



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Post# 26266-2/4/2003-18:30 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Living Better Electrically With GE (Pictures)
MESSAGE: I thought I was having problem after I changed my briefcase folders on Yahoo. Thank goodness it's not only me.

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Post# 26267-2/4/2003-18:50 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Living Better Electrically With GE (Pictures)
MESSAGE: WOW!!! That is a beautiful set! I always wondered how that dispensall system worked. When do we get the video???Mark

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Post# 26268-2/4/2003-19:46 ||| Mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: Dishwashers Vintage
MESSAGE: I was looking for something out of the ordinary, but this motorized built in drawer sounds wild. Hmmm I thought a KitchenAid split top rack, top loader was the best. Hmmmm So much info , Just can not imagine what Im about to learn , Thanks Guys Michael

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Post# 26269-2/4/2003-20:44 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (1956 Maytag dryer(noisy Norge))
MESSAGE: thanks Alex, I feel very lucky to have come across this great vintage machine and even luckier that the darn thing works perfectly............

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Post# 26270-2/4/2003-20:46 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (1956 Maytag dryer(noisy Norge)thnx)
MESSAGE: thanks Mike ! .... I love the old Time Line Machines myself, I would love to find the matching washer, but who knows, that may be a tough call, whereas the machine is fifty years old...thanks for your comments............best regards, gregm

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Post# 26271-2/4/2003-21:49 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Living Better Electrically With GE (Pictures)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the new link Greg, I tried the other one this morning and wasn't able to get in either. This one worked fine. Boy I love the looks of that GE, the lighted console is beautiful. Somewhere we just have to find the missing part for that dispenseal system. A beautiful set with that matching dryer even if it is gold!! Terry

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Post# 26272-2/4/2003-23:45 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Living Better Electrically With GE (Pictures)
MESSAGE: Greg, Wow THAT diverter. I wouldn't believe it unles I saw it.

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Post# 26273-2/5/2003-02:40 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Living Better Electrically With GE (Pictures)
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg for those pictures, it looks a real fun machine to play with. I had another look at the pictures you took before too. I wondered why they used a toggle switch for the wash temperature and a control for the extra rinse. I have seen that more often on GE machines and wondered why they did arrange the control panel that way. It doesn't seem very logical to me. The wash temperature and the water level are the controls you would use most anyway, isn't it? And they had to make a toggle switch with three positions for this arrangement. Anyone any idea why they did it this way?

Louis

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Post# 26274-2/5/2003-05:34 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (1956 Maytag dryer(noisy Norge)thnx)
MESSAGE: I must say Greg that that was such a great find - any of the Norge time line machines are so rare. You know, I only remember seeing two of them in my life. I too would give anything for one of the washers - probably my favorite of all. Even better was the fact that it was in good cosmetic shape and worked. That is one to preserve!! Question on the dryer, though. Was that dryer considered to have an oversize fan for faster, lower temp drying?? Does it do the "4 way drying"? And I seem to remember a neighbor's Norge dryer that had a narrower exhaust than the traditional size we know today - was that my imagination?