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Post# 26000-1/23/2003-05:34 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: West Coast trip Yeilds a Frigidaire SkinnyMini (Taking the washer to church)
MESSAGE: Well, why not??? They have bake sales and rummage sales, so why not fund raising wash in's???

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Post# 26001-1/23/2003-06:00 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: 40 year old GE Combo for Sale (Maytag Combo)
MESSAGE: I saw a Maytag Combo Back in the mid 70's I a thrift shop in Colorado Springs, CO and believe it or not, it had a window in the door.

Steve1-18

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Post# 26002-1/23/2003-06:53 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: 40 year old GE Combo for Sale (Maytag Combo)
MESSAGE: Steve, I remember you talking about that one.
That was so rare that you saw that one! Man, if you would have only been collecting back then! I wonder if someone bought it, or if it was trashed?
Or, I wonder if the thrift store still has it. :)
Brent

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Post# 26003-1/23/2003-07:18 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: West Coast trip Yeilds a Frigidaire SkinnyMini (Taking the washer to church)
MESSAGE: "... and after service we will have a wash-in in the fellowship hall. There's coffee and donuts"

Whiter than snow, whiter than snow....

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Post# 26004-1/23/2003-07:21 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer
MESSAGE: Hi Filekar1, goood to hear from you again.

I have seen a slightly similar machine to this one here in Australia. It would have been a private import as it was labelled in German and had a European-style power plug. It was a Constructa washer-dryer. I don't think Constructa have ever been sold here.
At the time I used to work night shift, and if a hard-garbage collection was happening somewhere between work and home I would often cruise past the junk at between 1am and 3am looking for interesting machines. I tried to lift the Constructa into the back of my car, a station wagon, but it was exceptionally heavy and appeared too big anyway, and I didn't want to make a noise. I removed a few spare parts from it including the motor, which was a very unusual design, manufactured by Siemens. The motor had an integral 10-to-1 reduction gearbox and a centrifugal clutch. The motor was 2-speed. When the motor turned at low speed (1400rpm) the reduction gear was engaged, so that the pulley turned at 140 rpm. the drum pulley was almost three times the size, giving a drum speed of 50rpm, which is WASH cycle. When the fast speed of the motor is energized (2800rpm) the centrifugal clutch engages so that the gearbox is bypassed and output pulley speed is the same as motor speed, 2800 rpm. The belt/pulley sizes mean it spins at about 1000 rpm. This 20:1 ratio was very unusual for a machine with no electronic motor speed control, and must have given an impressive spin. (1000 rpm with a very large diameter drum, in a machine of 1970's (?) vintage.) I have seen early Asko-Asea washers with exactly the same Siemens motor/gearbox.

Filekar1 or Louis, what can you tell us about the history of Constructa washers? they look very heavy-duty, were they domestic or commercial use machines??
Thanks
Chris.


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Post# 26005-1/23/2003-07:28 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: West Coast trip Yeilds a Frigidaire SkinnyMini (Taking the washer to church)
MESSAGE: "Cast your sins upon the waters of the Maytag, Kenmore and Frigidaire and be clean!"

Sounds like a lot of fun Steve, best of luck!

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Post# 26006-1/23/2003-07:34 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: 40 year old GE Combo for Sale (Is this one of the first GE Combo's?)
MESSAGE: Brent I think it is very early by the dials. John has one and it has a transmission,it is not a 3 belt machine like all the later models I have.
I am betting this is a tranny machine as well. I was in contact with the current owner Denise to see if she could get that machine too a Craters and Freighters near her but she has no way to do that and CnF charges a fortune to go pick things up! So its out of my price range. Good thing Jimmy happens to be out there, it would be a real shame for that to go to the "KRUSHR"
Jet

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Post# 26007-1/23/2003-08:33 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: 40 year old GE Combo for Sale (Is this one of the first GE Combo's?)
MESSAGE: Hey Jon,

What about the GE combo in your kitchen? Is that a later model too?

Louis

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Post# 26008-1/23/2003-08:39 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer
MESSAGE: Actually I don't know much about Constructa. I only know they used to produce very good domestic machines. The one on eBay is already a Siemens product (1971) according to the Constructa collector I contacted, so it's not a collectible for him. That also means I think that it's not a "Kochautomat", but I will have to ask him about that.

Louis

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Post# 26009-1/23/2003-12:21 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: 40 year old GE Combo for Sale (Is this one of the first GE Combo's?)
MESSAGE: Hes got a 40 year old dishwasher too, hes close to me so I'm askin him how much his reserve is for the items. If its reasonable I'll take them both and book em up for applianceville to enjoy =)

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Post# 26010-1/23/2003-12:35 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: NORGE front loader info.
MESSAGE: Hello All,
I Was surfing on ebay and noticed this ad for a Norge front loader. Was this a licensed design from another manufacturer or a Norge original design?
-Alex
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2302342822&category=20714

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Post# 26011-1/23/2003-12:38 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: NORGE front loader info.
MESSAGE: Norge original -- their first automatic washer. It didn't last long and was quickly replaced with the beloved top loading, agitator Timeline. There is a poor review of it in the Consumer Reports articles on our webpage.

-ph

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Post# 26012-1/23/2003-16:41 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: RE: 40 year old GE Combo for Sale (Is this one of the first GE Combo's?)
MESSAGE: In response to Notafixer from SanDiego, FYI Im on vacation in S Cal so I already bid on both the GE combo and dishwasher.....just so you know a club member is trying to save these already.........FilterFlo

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Post# 26013-1/23/2003-16:58 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: 40 year old GE Combo for Sale (Is this one of the first GE Combo's?)
MESSAGE: Go for it Notafixer they are in your area after all! I can't wait to see them! They look in excellent shape!

jetcone

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Post# 26014-1/23/2003-18:57 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: Top Load Dishwasher
MESSAGE: Years ago an Aunt gave me a top loader. 2.5x3.5' apx. ,glass top & a spiral deflector to assure full wash coverage. VERY OLD. I wish I still had it. (gave it away Too young to know better) I do not remember the make. I live in Canada if that makes any difference. Any info on anything that sounds famular would be great. PS Stainless Steel inside & the upper rack was small & slid back & forth to accomidate access to the lower rack. Michael mikepaquette@hotmail.com

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Post# 26015-1/23/2003-19:51 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: 40 year old GE Combo for Sale (Is this one of the first GE Combo's?)
MESSAGE: ok jimmy, as long as there not going to the dump im happy =a)

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Post# 26016-1/23/2003-19:53 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: FilterFlo
MESSAGE: Hello,

If your going to be in San Diego could i meet up with you for lunch or something and see what your bringing home in that van of yours =)

~Steven

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Post# 26017-1/23/2003-20:00 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: West Coast trip Yeilds a Frigidaire SkinnyMini (Taking the washer to church)
MESSAGE: You too can have your sins washed away in the wash-in. Whiter than snow!!!

Or, baptize you laundry in the Frigidaire while you're being baptized too LOL

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Post# 26018-1/23/2003-20:01 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: 40 year old GE Combo for Sale (Is this one of the first GE Combo's?)
MESSAGE: The appliance gods have smiled on us with Jimmy being out there!!!

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Post# 26019-1/23/2003-20:06 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: West Coast trip Yeilds a Frigidaire SkinnyMini (Taking the washer to church)
MESSAGE: Though my garments be dirty, they shall be whiter than snow.

Speaking of white: time to throw some whiteys in Sir Frigemore

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Post# 26020-1/23/2003-21:07 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Top Load Dishwasher
MESSAGE: Hi, welcome! Did your dishwasher look anything like the one in this Ebay ad? They may have been called something other than "James" in Canada. Our club founder owns one of these machines. I'm sure he has pictures posted but I just don't know where. Scott
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3201900977&category=13596

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Post# 26021-1/23/2003-21:29 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: No Spivulators HERE!!!
MESSAGE: Okay People lets try this again!

Here are two new albums of the restoration of the GE Combo and one of the first loads thru it.
The titles are "GE combo restoration" and "GE Combo"
The object is to enjoy and illuminate.

Jetcone


LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/jetcone/lst?.dir=/&.src=ph&.view=t

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Post# 26022-1/23/2003-22:06 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!! (JON YOU ARE THE MAN!)
MESSAGE: Jon,
Thanks so much for the pictures. I remember thinking when I saw that machine a Jeff's during the convention how cool it was and how good of shape it was in. Little did I know that it needed so much work!
You did such a great job! I am so proud that that machine will be running for so much longer with your hard work!
Now, where did you get the new an improved parts? Did GE still have these parts? Or did you have someone manufacture them?
Also wondering what was the total running time from start to finish of washing and drying for such a load. That looked like a big load. And I love that water action!
You are very lucky and talented Jon! Good for you!
What is needing to be done with your other GE combo?
Also, Did GE make this version in a gas combo? Or was the Condenser the only version for drying. I am sure that you know.
Thanks for answering all of my questions.
So So Cool!
Thanks again!
Brent

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Post# 26023-1/23/2003-22:49 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Flair Electric Range Repair Help
MESSAGE: Why not try www.antiqueapplinaces.com. They might be able to help you. They have a pic of a 1962 Frigidaire Flair on their website that they restored on commission for a client. Here's a link to the pic:

http://www.antiqueappliances.com/stoves/1962FrigidaireFlair.htm
LINK: http://www.antiqueappliances.com/stoves/1962FrigidaireFlair.htm

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Post# 26024-1/24/2003-02:23 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!! (Great job!!!!)
MESSAGE: Congratulations Jon on the restauration of this baby! Do you have two combo's hooked up now? You can take in lots of laundry now! And warm towels and warm jeans in the morning, isn't that wonderful? Next time I visit you I'll bring an extra cabin trunk full of laundry!

Louis

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Post# 26025-1/24/2003-05:37 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Top Load Dishwasher (top load dishwasher)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the reply. From what I can see in the ad, it just might be it. Thanks for the good beggining. Who is the founder I would not mind having a peek at that collection. Thanks again Michael

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Post# 26026-1/24/2003-06:36 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!! (Thanks Jon)
MESSAGE: Just finished looking at the pictures Jon. They were great! Thanks for sharing with us. It looks like you had a lot to fix on this one. The GE combo is one beautiful machine that I hope to see in action for myself one day. What is the drying time like for an average load?

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Post# 26027-1/24/2003-06:47 ||| cycla-fabric (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!! (Great GE Combo Job Jon!!)
MESSAGE: You did a wonderful job of getting that machine up and running again. The pictures were great too. I have the same questions as Brent has, were the parts available from ge or what. But you did a great job!!!

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Post# 26028-1/24/2003-07:23 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!!
MESSAGE: Jon - great pics of the GE combo, the new parts are so pretty! Is this still a six vane tub as in the older models?

Illumination and enjoyment appreciated!!

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Post# 26029-1/24/2003-07:24 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Top Load Dishwasher (top load dishwasher - archives)
MESSAGE: Hi Mike- you can do a search in the archives of the club postings for the James dishwasher pictures and check out the memeber links for more pictures of other appliance collections.

Enjoy!

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Post# 26030-1/24/2003-08:37 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!! (TO No Spivulators HERE!!! )
MESSAGE: Jon
I love the GE combo
Peter

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Post# 26031-1/24/2003-08:44 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!! (Had to make the parts)
MESSAGE: Hi Brent, Cyclafabric & Terry & Louis:
The parts are no longer available even as NOS. So I had to improvise. I found that the Frigdaire 1-18 tub seal just about fit the GE bronze face seal currently on the Combo. I knew the part that held it the "Seal Hub" had to be made up from scratch since as you can see mine was disintegrated. It had to fit the back plate of the combo yet hold the slightly larger Frigidaire seal agianst the bronze face and NOT allow the clothes basket to hit the front wall of the outer tub. With some careful measuring I took the dimensions to my friend Jacob who is a machinest by trade. He cut the new Seal Hub out of solid aluminum. Then we had it anodized black to prevent corrosion. Once I knew it fit it was just a matter of cleaning out the years of scum and lint in the tub, lubing up everything and reassembly. I also added my own little improvement. I put in vibration isolators between the motor and the base plate. That machine generates alot of sound due to the shape of the baseplate and cavity under the drum.
Now this machine is very quite compared to the other white machine I got from Jeff this summer.
Also it runs through its cycle faster. The wash is 8-10 minutes and the whole cycle in the White Combo usually runs 2 -2 1/2 hours BUT in the restored combo it runs 1 1/2 to 2 hours.
I believe both heating elements are working in both combos but I think gettting the chunks of compacted lint out of the Avocado combo has really shortend the drying time for it.
Anybody have any thoughts on why the times might be so different?
Glad you liked the pic, if anybody has to restore another one like this I have the dimensions on file and you can take them to your local machine shop and get a hub made,I also stocked up on Frigidaire seals if anybody needs them.
Have a great weekend all!
jet

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Post# 26032-1/24/2003-08:47 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!! (TO No Spivulators HERE!!! )
MESSAGE: Hi Pete:
Thank you, you will have to hitch a ride up with John next time try them out in person!
How is your Combo running these days?
jet

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Post# 26033-1/24/2003-09:50 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (More information on Constructa)
MESSAGE: I got some more information about the Constructa brand from the German collector. Constructa was taken over by Siemens in 1967 but continued to manufacture the real boil wash machines (Kochautomat) until the mid 70's. So the machine on eBay is a machine that really boils the laundry if you choose that cycle. He also told me that Bauknecht (the manufacturer of the Hettie and the Duet) also made boiling machines in the past. That was new to me.

Louis

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Post# 26034-1/24/2003-10:36 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!! (Just Fluff)
MESSAGE: Hi John

Glad to see another machine revived for another wash outing, what size load to it wash???

Is the dryer a condensor or vented??

From speaking to a lot of service engineers, the combo machines became more of a pain when the water levels where reduced for energy efficiency, with less water to splash about in the top of the drum the lint used to stick especially in the dimples and not too smooth areas around enamel etc....the later designed machines of UK and European models had SS drums and SS/metal outer drums with fancy rinse injectors to spray the surface of the drum and wash away the lint before it dried.

If the lint was allowed to build up it just acted like a sponge soaking up more moisture and taking longer to dry etc.Over a few years you then get much longer dry times..

Mike

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Post# 26035-1/24/2003-10:37 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (More information on Constructa)
MESSAGE: Hi Louis

Looks an interesting machine especially with the drop down door etc...was this a similar machine to the Merker with the guy on top???

Mike

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Post# 26036-1/24/2003-12:09 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (More information on Constructa)
MESSAGE: No Mike, the Merker is a whole different machine (the link goes to the Merker picture). It is an all push button machine though. I don't know when Merker was purchased by Siemens, or perhaps it was even founded by Siemens. Actually I don't know much about Merker since it's a brand that is exclusively made for the Swiss market.

Louis
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/vwp?.dir=/More+washers&.dnm=wasmesiene.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t

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Post# 26037-1/24/2003-18:32 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!! (Just Fluff)
MESSAGE: Hi Mike!!

You have cofirmed what I thought that the lint build up makes the drying longer.
The GE is rated at 6 pounds (~3Kg) in the literature but I load the thing up to atleast 12 pounds.
It has a real good wash action as there are 6 blades on the drum not 3 so it looks like Niagara Falls inside when on wash.
I will try to grab a video of that this weekend.
Would love to come visit you , they are offering $350 RT right now to London!!!!!!!!
Cheers
jon

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Post# 26038-1/24/2003-18:37 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (Cool Machinen~~)
MESSAGE: Hey Louis who made Constructa??

jetcone

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Post# 26039-1/24/2003-18:37 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (Cool Machinen~~)
MESSAGE: Hey Louis who made Constructa??

jetcone

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Post# 26040-1/24/2003-18:40 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (kochautomat??)
MESSAGE: Louis please translate for me I have not been studying my German of late

jet

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Post# 26041-1/24/2003-18:42 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: NORGE front loader info. (The first 18#)
MESSAGE: I believe it was the first 18 pounder on the domestic market.
Anybody concur with that?


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Post# 26042-1/24/2003-18:45 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!! (6 big vanes)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg:
Yes it has 6 big vanes so when in wash it looks like Niagara Falls!!! And the tub is MINT! There isn't a scratch in it!
It really cleans well, yet I say that about all my machines!!!
I will try and capture a video this weekend for the club.
jet


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Post# 26043-1/24/2003-18:47 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!! (Just Fluff Condensor)
MESSAGE: Hi Mike the dryer is a condensor so there is no external venting YAY!
jet

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Post# 26044-1/24/2003-18:48 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (More information on Constructa)
MESSAGE: I lOVE THAT GUY ON TOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jet8cone

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Post# 26045-1/24/2003-20:23 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!! (6 big vanes)
MESSAGE: Videos! I love Videos! They are the next best thing to being there!

THANK YOU!

Best Washes!
-Jamie-

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Post# 26046-1/24/2003-20:24 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!! (Spivulator?)
MESSAGE: What is a Spivulator?

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Post# 26047-1/24/2003-20:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!! (Piece By Piece washing)
MESSAGE: I'll bet that wash action is a sight to see in person!

GE called it "piece by piece" action - the six vaned, 26" (4 cubic foot) drum "gently flexes, dips and tumbles clothes" and reduces unecessary wear...

The lint buildup causes slightly longer drying times in a Filtrator too. Are the voltage ratings the same on both models? They also came in a 208v model which was sometimes preferred in apartment construction, etc. Just a thought...

Beautiful machine and fantastic job Jon!



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Post# 26048-1/24/2003-20:55 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Mini Wash-In Anyone?
MESSAGE: I am going to be in Columbia, Missouri on Monday March, 31 in the late evening and I am leaving early on the morning of Friday April, 4. Does anybody have free time down there? I would absolutely love to have the experience on the Vintage Washer World! My mom said that it was okay to do so if anyone had freetime, it was close by, and if they were okay with it. Thanks a bunch!

Best Washes!
-Jamie-

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Post# 26049-1/24/2003-23:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Mini Wash-In Anyone?
MESSAGE: Omaha, NE is probably too far away from Columbia, MO for a stop here, but you're getting closer! I did lots of vintage appliance hunting in that area a couple of years ago. Came across a few junkyards, but none with appliances.

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Post# 26050-1/25/2003-00:41 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!!
MESSAGE: Jon, can't add anything here on top of all the other accolades. Just wanted to say thank you for such loving terrific care of restoring another combo and this beautiful machine. I hope to see/hear it run some day. Bob P. S., although I couldn't read all the print, it looks like poor Al got blamed for the wash load. Poor guy, and he probably wasn't down there in the basement to see the cleaning of his "handiwork".

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Post# 26051-1/25/2003-00:42 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: NORGE front loader info. (The first 18#)
MESSAGE: Yes I concur that and it didn't spin either!!!

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Post# 26052-1/25/2003-00:44 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (More information on Constructa)
MESSAGE: Yes, that guy on top was INCREDIBLE/EDIBLE/DELECTABLE!!!

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Post# 26053-1/25/2003-03:30 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (kochautomat)
MESSAGE: Jon,

Until 1967 Constructa was an independent manufacturer. Then they were taken over by Siemens. A "Kochautomat" is a Boiling Automatic. So the one on eBay was manufactured while Constructa was already taken over (1971) but still was a machine that did a real boil wash. According to the collector Constructa made boiling machines because detergents weren't as good as nowadays when Constructa launched the concept.

Louis

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Post# 26054-1/25/2003-03:33 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (More information on Constructa)
MESSAGE: No wonder some people bring up that machine over and over again ;-)

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Post# 26055-1/25/2003-08:18 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: Some one needs this great set ... LOOK Westinghouse laundry pair
MESSAGE: As always I was running thru the ebay world and saw this I wish I had the money but hey one day my machine will show but I know how these would really make a collector happy. you don't find these often enough
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2503429351&category=12

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Post# 26056-1/25/2003-09:02 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (kochautomat)
MESSAGE: Hi Louis - So this washer was truly a 212 degree boil wash and not 180-190 degrees as some are today? That would definitely give white whites!

On the gentle cycle could you cook pasta? Just kidding...

- Greg

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Post# 26057-1/25/2003-09:04 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (More information on Constructa)
MESSAGE: I have that picture in my photo screensaver program - see all the time!


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Post# 26058-1/25/2003-09:10 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (boiling wash)
MESSAGE: Boiling (212 degrees F) is too hot for elastic. I washed underwear @ 90 degrees C and the elastic was shot. They sure were white, though!

Steve1-18

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Post# 26059-1/25/2003-09:47 ||| filekar1 (italy)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (boiling wash with Constructa )
MESSAGE: This was the first automatic machine made by constructa, bolted down with cicle control on the left and temperature control on the right.
The photo is very small and anyone can't see that on the left side of this machine there were ON-OFF switch and I think a no spin switch.
these machines were very interesting because before the prewash cicle they had a cicle, known in italian "bagnatura".
this cicle was used to soak the laundry tor dissolve better the detergent in the next prewash cicle. My gandmother had a bolted down Constructa since 1962 she used this machine until 1995/'96 I don't remember very well It's looks like this machine in your photo, Foraloysius. My mother have a Constructa too, it's Constructa CV 530, but we bought in 1982, it's a Siemens machine and it work very well now!!!
Greetings from Italy
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/vwp?.dir=/My+favourite+appliances&.dnm=First+Constructa+washer.jpg&.src=ph&.view=l&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/lst%3f%26.dir=/My%2bfavourite%2bappliances%26.src=ph%26.view=l

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Post# 26060-1/25/2003-09:49 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Some one needs this great set ... LOOK Westinghouse laundry pair
MESSAGE: OMK! A matched set of Westy's! They look like someone took very good care of them. It's almost too good to be true. This is one of the few times that I wished that I lived in a house instead of an apartment. :-( I would bid of them if I could. I hope someone in the club is able to give them the good home that they deserve.

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Post# 26061-1/25/2003-10:17 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Some one needs this great set ... LOOK Westinghouse laundry pair
MESSAGE: Amazing!! They look to be in good shape too. There were a couple of ads in the classifieds looking for slant front Westys...


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Post# 26062-1/25/2003-10:42 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (kochautomat)
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, how did the Constructa's boiling differ from the machines that do boilwashes today?

QEOM

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Post# 26063-1/25/2003-10:46 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (kochautomat)
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, I think I see, now that I've read ahead. The new machines don't get quite as hot.

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Post# 26064-1/25/2003-11:58 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: NORGE front loader info. (The first 18#)
MESSAGE: No spin at all or just a slow spin?

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Post# 26065-1/25/2003-13:44 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: NORGE front loader info. (The first 18#)
MESSAGE: From comments I remember from Tom Turbo, they didn't spin at all, just tumbled.

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Post# 26066-1/25/2003-14:29 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Some one needs this great set ... LOOK Westinghouse laundry pair
MESSAGE: Well, I have family there in the area that I really need to go visit, so I can use the excuse of picking up these guys when I go! I have bid on them...

-ph

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Post# 26067-1/25/2003-14:30 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (More information on Constructa)
MESSAGE: And when you look at that pic on a really, really good monitor, you can see things that you never noticed before!

-ph

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Post# 26068-1/25/2003-15:48 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (More information on Constructa)
MESSAGE: Yup, I see it too! His shoe laces need washing.



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Post# 26069-1/25/2003-16:39 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (kochautomat)
MESSAGE: Greg,

Yes, these washers did a true 212 boil wash. I remember seeing the Constructa from our neighbours bubbling their whites. That machine had a timer and pushbuttons, for several cycles including temperature. I mean that the temperature was integrated in the cyclebuttons. There was no delicate boil wash available, just a regular cycle.

Boiling pasta in a Constructa is not a good idea I think, a Kochautomat sounds more like Bubble and Squeak to me.

Louis

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Post# 26070-1/25/2003-19:02 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: GE Combo and Dishwasher
MESSAGE: Yeah Won the ebay auctions. I LOVE the combo. Wish me well picking them up, getting them home and fixing them! PS> thats the same dishwasher I am currently building into my new kitchen~

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Post# 26071-1/25/2003-19:23 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!! (Spivulator?)
MESSAGE: A play on words Jamie,just a play on words.
I will try to catch video of the GE combo tomorrow with my limited video camera.If sucessful you'l see the 6 big vanes in action!
jet

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Post# 26072-1/25/2003-19:26 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!! (Piece By Piece washing)
MESSAGE: Wow! Greg thanks for the original lingo! I love commercial lingo on these machines.
My machine is rated at 208 to 250?? I see this all the time and wonder. When normal house v is 220 or 110.
Thank you Greg. You must come out soon to play!
jon

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Post# 26073-1/25/2003-19:31 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (kochautomat)
MESSAGE: Thank you Louis! I sent the link to my friend Ingrid who grew up in Germany. She said it was a solid machine but very small capacity.
And that the blurb said it was owned by a little old woman--who probably just did her undies in it, hence low use!
cheers jon

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Post# 26074-1/25/2003-19:32 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (kochautomat-Lumpy Pasta)
MESSAGE: No al dente in that machine!

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Post# 26075-1/25/2003-19:38 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Some one needs this great set ... LOOK Westinghouse laundry pair (Greg is bidding)
MESSAGE: Gregm is going to bid them and get them. Can't wait to see them in person! I wonder if that Westy has the 6 vane tub????
jet

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Post# 26076-1/25/2003-22:32 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire 1-18 set
MESSAGE: Did you guys notice that someone is selling a Frigidaire 1-18 set? Its in Maryland and the pictures look mighty good!!! It's a 1978, I believe. If I hadn't just got my set, I'd jump on it. Any takers????

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Post# 26077-1/25/2003-22:34 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire 1-18 set
MESSAGE: I guess I forgot to mention that it's on Ebay. Sorry, they say the mind is the first thing to go ... what were we talking about?

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Post# 26078-1/26/2003-00:01 ||| may63 (Saint Paul, MN)
SUBJECT: 1958 Frigidaire Washer Ad
MESSAGE: I thought this was pretty cool so thought I'd share.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2302911498&category=20714

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Post# 26079-1/26/2003-00:10 ||| may63 (Saint Paul, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire 1-18 set
MESSAGE: They looked to have been well cared for! Here's the link.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2304256787&category=20714

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Post# 26080-1/26/2003-00:12 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Combo and Dishwasher
MESSAGE: Hooray!! YAY!!! JIMMY!!!!!! I loved the noise of impeller dishwashers

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Post# 26081-1/26/2003-00:16 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!! (Spivulator?)
MESSAGE: Jon, I hope I can download it too. (dial-up you know). Anyway, i hope your limited video action camera will catch all the piece by piece action and not in vane.

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Post# 26082-1/26/2003-00:18 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (kochautomat-Lumpy Pasta)
MESSAGE: Jon, you're supposed to prevent al from putting dente in the machines.

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Post# 26083-1/26/2003-00:22 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: 1958 Frigidaire Washer Ad
MESSAGE: And unimatic has this washer in his basement collection in Minnie. It's my favorite!!!!

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Post# 26084-1/26/2003-00:30 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire 1-18 set
MESSAGE: This looks like the same models that Steve 1-18 picked up in Virginia (the poppy set) during last August's convention. The dryer particularly with no auto dry cycle, all timed-dry. Washer looks the same too.

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Post# 26085-1/26/2003-01:38 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!! (Voltage)
MESSAGE: 208 is used in comercial buildings. If you have a 208v element and run it on 220 the output will be greater.

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Post# 26086-1/26/2003-02:57 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (kochautomat)
MESSAGE: LOL! Who would have thought we would be discussing the undies of an old German widow on this site! The machine served her probably well over thirty years.

As a matter of fact this is just a standard European capacity machine, 4.5kg or so (10lbs) which was quite normal for that time. I guess your friend Ingrid must have gotten used to the US size machines. What kind of washer does she have?

Louis

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Post# 26087-1/26/2003-02:59 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Some one needs this great set ... LOOK Westinghouse laundry pair (Greg is bidding)
MESSAGE: I'm sure you will give us a full report on this including big screen Technicolor pictures....

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Post# 26088-1/26/2003-03:56 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Some one needs this great set ... LOOK Westinghouse laundry pair (Greg is bidding)
MESSAGE: Good news! Let's keep our fingers crossed. Can't wait to hear a report and to, hopefully, see some pics.

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Post# 26089-1/26/2003-04:00 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire 1-18 set
MESSAGE: I can't believe this. First a Westy slant front pair and now a Frigidare 1-18! Hopefully someone in the club will be able to give them the good home that they deserve. Those are among my favorite machines. I usually don't mind living in an apartment, but if this keeps up I may have to start looking for a house.

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Post# 26090-1/26/2003-04:09 ||| filekar1 (italy)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (kochautomat)
MESSAGE: Hallo Foraloysius, do you have some old Constructa washer Owners manual or catalogue? I'm very interesting to this kind of washer. Can you help me, please? Or your friend collector of old Constructa can help me, please? Thanks!!!!

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Post# 26091-1/26/2003-05:33 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (kochautomat)
MESSAGE: I'm sorry, but I don't have anything on Constructa appliances. Perhaps I'm going to visit the Constructa collector sometime, we'll see what comes out of that.

Louis

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Post# 26092-1/26/2003-07:10 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: 1958 Frigidaire Washer Ad
MESSAGE: I agree. The 58 is by far my favorite Frigidaire. Great chrome trim on the cabinet, terrificly styled lighted control panel and that wonderful multi-colored 3-ring agitator.

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Post# 26093-1/26/2003-08:12 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire 1-18 set
MESSAGE: Well, I have a slight problem also. I have been out of work for a while, so my collecting is at a standstill. First, I can't really afford to bid, though I would love to, especially on the 1-18 set. A few machines in poppy red have gotten by me for that reason. Also, in order to properly house a collection, I need to reconfigure some area of my house. Until another position comes along, it all is on hold!! Drat the luck!

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Post# 26094-1/26/2003-11:52 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: Bauknecht washing machines brochure 1964/65 including "Kochautomat"
MESSAGE: Name it coincidence, but today a Belgian guy read my ad on a dutch site about collecting washer brochures. He scanned this Bauknecht brochure and sent the scans to me. Much to my surprise the machines that did a real boil wash (212F) are in this brochure. I have never seen these washers for real, I guess Bauknecht wasn't very popular in the area where I lived.

The commercial machines look much like the Constructa machines from that time, there might have been a connection, but that's just a guess. The residential machines have the controls on the rear like my mother's Bosch from 1966 had. Some of the Bauknecht residential models were bolt down machines, I didn't know that in the 60's bolt down machines were still made.

Louis
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/lst?.dir=/1964-1965+Bauknecht+brochure&.view=t

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Post# 26095-1/26/2003-18:39 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Kenmore Visamatic! In Pink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MESSAGE: Wow in pink! Perfect Condition! Have fun!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2304486430&category=20714

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Post# 26096-1/26/2003-19:20 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Visamatic! In Pink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Nice machine)
MESSAGE: Only if the bidding price started at $50.00.
Otherwise it is in mint condition just like my Easy wringer washer that I've just picked up over the weekend!!!

Now I like to know if that Kenmore prego agitator(Roto-Swirl) would fit inside my Easy?

LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1400&item=749327260&rd=1

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Post# 26097-1/26/2003-21:21 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!! (Spivulator?)
MESSAGE: SOmeone is gonna be slappped in Vane!!


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Post# 26098-1/26/2003-21:22 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (kochautomat-Lumpy Pasta)
MESSAGE: slapped BY a vane I'd say!!!!!

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Post# 26099-1/26/2003-21:23 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: No Spivulators HERE!!! (Voltage)
MESSAGE: Thanks HQots! It has been a long time mystery for me! I guess 208 lends itself to 3 phase better?
jet

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Post# 26100-1/26/2003-21:26 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (kochautomat)
MESSAGE: I "convinced" Her to by a Neptune. She loves it. I gave her some of the Persil that Paolo gave me and the smell took her right back to Germany. I bet each of us has some smell in detergent like that although I can't quite place what mine is off the top of my head.
jet

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Post# 26101-1/26/2003-21:29 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire 1-18 set
MESSAGE: Angus here's to you finding work soon it must be very frustrating!!
jet

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Post# 26102-1/26/2003-21:34 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Bauknecht washing machines brochure 1964/65 including "Kochautomat" (model line up)
MESSAGE: OOOHH I love the model line up! Louis are those brochures in Dutch? Am I begining to see the differnce between Dutch and German?? Or am I hallucinating??
jet

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Post# 26103-1/26/2003-21:36 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Visamatic! In Pink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Cool Pic! with the OO!!)
MESSAGE: Cool pic, one doesn't often get to see the Original Owner OO with their machine!!!
jetcone

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Post# 26104-1/26/2003-23:00 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Visamatic! In Pink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MESSAGE: Someone must have this!! I'll bet if you picked it up from her house, she'd show you that cool 50's basement and cook you dinner too! This would be a neat addition to someone's collection for sure, the pink is to die for!

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Post# 26105-1/26/2003-23:02 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Visamatic! In Pink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Nice machine)
MESSAGE: You won't need the Kenmore agitator, you have a Spiralator in yours - just as much fun. What a beauty that machine is as well, congrats on your new Easy! I have a lot of fun with my wringer washer, but remember to play safe around that wringer!

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Post# 26106-1/26/2003-23:10 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Bauknecht washing machines brochure 1964/65 including "Kochautomat"
MESSAGE: Those are very cool looking machines - and bolt down too, how strange. Were these about the same size as the other European machines of their era? Wish I could read the brochure!!

Thanks Louis - Greg

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Post# 26107-1/26/2003-23:22 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Weekend Finds with Flair
MESSAGE: A very busy weekend, working 7 days/week again, but I did manage to have some neat finds this weekend. At our one and only sale, I found a couple of neat vacuum coffee pots, one of which is going to Tomturbo in D.C. (see pics) I saw them yesterday and went back today for them. The Sunbeam is a model "C" from 1933! I got a peek at the Flair range a friend has saved for me. It appears to be a 1960 40" model, but the control panel glass is broken, great for parts though. Tomorrow night I am going to look at a couple of washers and a dryer in a friend's rental house, upon description, it sounds like a Norge set (more harvest gold!) and another white washer "that is even older." We'll see...

Hope everyone's weekend was grand!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/New+pics&.dnm=Dsc00239.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t

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Post# 26108-1/27/2003-02:08 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Bauknecht washing machines brochure 1964/65 including "Kochautomat" (Dutch and German)
MESSAGE: Spot-on! You deserve the full ten points! This brochure is in Dutch, meant for the Belgian market. I love the line up too!

Louis

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Post# 26109-1/27/2003-02:12 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Visamatic! In Pink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Cool Pic! with the OO!!)
MESSAGE: She must have a thing for washers too, having a back up machine and now getting taken her picture with it now.

Louis

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Post# 26110-1/27/2003-02:27 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Bauknecht washing machines brochure 1964/65 including "Kochautomat" (Some technical information)
MESSAGE: Greg,

They were indeed the same size as other European machines from that time. This however was before the European standard size, the width of those machines was 5 centimetres (2 inches) more than modern European machines.

BTW, not all the models are bolt down machines and not all of them do a real boil wash. The models are:

WA481K: bolt down - 212 boil wash
WA501K: freestanding - 212 boil wash
WA581K: bolt down - 212 boil wash - bigger capacity and small load option
WA480: bolt down - no 212 boil wash
WA500: freestanding - no 212 boil wash

So the K stands probably for "Kochautomat".

All models can be connected to single phase 220 V, three phase 220V and three phase 380V except for the WA581K that doesn't connect to single phase 220V.

Louis

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Post# 26111-1/27/2003-06:51 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Weekend Finds with Flair (My toaster)
MESSAGE: I want that toaster. That's a Sunbeam automatic toaster. You put the bread in and it lowers automatically.

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Post# 26112-1/27/2003-06:52 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Visamatic! In Pink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Cool Pic! with the OO!!)
MESSAGE: I wonder what her automatic washer was?

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Post# 26113-1/27/2003-09:53 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Visamatic! In Pink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Easy wringer)
MESSAGE: Hey Larry,

On the model/serial plate on your Easy wringer, was it made in Syracuse, NY? Since it has the fatter Spiralator, I guess this might be a later model.

-ph

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Post# 26114-1/27/2003-12:24 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Visamatic! In Pink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MESSAGE: When I do get a wringer washer for a collection, I hope it will be a pink one! Robert and I have seen a few of these around town in the past.

Have you put out a wash with your Visi-matic lately, Greg? :)

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Post# 26115-1/27/2003-12:28 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Weekend Finds with Flair
MESSAGE: How wonderful Greg! Tom will really appreciate that Coffeemaster! Keep us posted about those washers/dryer!

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Post# 26116-1/27/2003-12:31 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Visamatic! In Pink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Cool Pic! with the OO!!)
MESSAGE: I bet she had a big family and used it to keep things moving along. I thought it was a fun touch that they took her picture with the machine. It is really a gem. They used to sell translucent fitted covers for washing machines, I'm wondering if that's what she used to cover it. The basement floor is really pretty too!

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Post# 26117-1/27/2003-12:32 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Visamatic! In Pink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Cool Pic! with the OO!!)
MESSAGE: good question Jason!....a Pink Lady, perhaps! :)

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Post# 26118-1/27/2003-13:05 ||| may63 (Saint Paul, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: Weekend Finds with Flair (My toaster)
MESSAGE: I want it too. My Grandma had one. Great toaster. Major tempation though for little grandchildren to walk by and push the trip wire down! Not a good thing to do when the toaster cozy is in place though...I can still smell the burnt plastic...

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Post# 26119-1/27/2003-14:28 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Australia Day Jan 26/27
MESSAGE: Happy Australia Day to our club members down under!

-pg

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Post# 26120-1/27/2003-15:45 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Visamatic! In Pink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Easy wringer)
MESSAGE: Peter, I will have to check and see. The people that sold the machine said it was made back in 1939 and it's in mint condition. Extreamly clean from top to bottom. The motor and transmission looks like it just came from the factory and it only needs a new drain hose....
Wow what a great buy!

But one question?
Does this machine suppose to have a lint filter under the lid or such an attachment like the Kenmore Visamatic?

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Post# 26121-1/27/2003-18:33 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Weekend Finds with Flair (nice pics)
MESSAGE: nice Greg !! I have that same toaster, it goes down automatically, slowly, just by putting the bread in it. Very cool looking coffee pot too..........

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Post# 26122-1/27/2003-18:45 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire 1-18 set
MESSAGE: Thanks - I could use a break! But you know how it is - you go through years getting "fat, dumb and happy" thinking that you are set. Then fate steps in and reminds you about balance...

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Post# 26123-1/27/2003-22:48 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: GE Combo & Roll Out Dishwasher
MESSAGE: Picked up my ebay wins today in Fullerton Calif. The Combo washer and dishwasher are just stunning and in almost perfect condition. It was a surprise to find them in GE's Sunburst Yellow color. The sellers were very kind and charming, just wonderful people. They also offered the GE 4 burner range top with tandem pushbuttons! Will send some pics in soon.......Jimmy

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Post# 26124-1/28/2003-03:30 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Australia Day Jan 26/27
MESSAGE: Thanks Peter. You are on the ball.
We went to a Council function for the day (Hubby is a Councillor), not the sort of thing we'd usually go to but actually it was a good day. The usual tedious speeches; some music (good singers but over-amplified); a great comic who impersonated several Aussie politicians of recent past; citizenship ceremony for some migrants; community service awards for some local good folk; followed by a free BARBEQUE!!!
Afterwards a friend took us out to see "My Big Greek Wedding" in the tiny local "cinema" which is really the Mechanics Institute hall, converted for the school holidays. It was a hoot!
Good on you for remembering.
Chris.


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Post# 26125-1/28/2003-04:43 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: More Bauknecht brochure pictures
MESSAGE: My new Belgian friend sent me some more pictures. It appeared there were actually two brochures, a red one and a blue one. I added the new scans to the album. There was also an extra red page showing an H-axis twintub. The blue brochure shows clearly a picture of the control panel of the Boiling washer with the three controls.

One other thing that drew my attention is that there is no information about spinspeeds. I assume these machines spin between 600 - 800 rpm, but that's just a guess.

Louis
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/lst?.dir=/1964-1965+Bauknecht+brochure&.view=t

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Post# 26126-1/28/2003-04:47 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: American classic kitchen question
MESSAGE: Pol from Belgium has a question about a kitchen. This kitchen (see link for a picture, the store is in my neighbourhood) is sold overhere as an American Classic, but to be honest I have never seen one in the US yet. Is there anybody who knows a little more about these kitchens? Name, manufacturer, website etc? He would love to know more about it since he recently purchased one of these.

Louis
LINK: http://www.indigo-design.nl/kitchen.asp

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Post# 26127-1/28/2003-04:58 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: Sam toploading H-axs washers
MESSAGE: Besides the Bauknecht pictures I also got a few scans from a Sam brochure, a manufacturer of mainly H-axis toploading semi-automatics. I think Sam was an independent manufacturer that was later purchased by Thomson Brandt.

Louis
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/lst?.dir=/Sam&.view=t

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Post# 26128-1/28/2003-07:05 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: American classic kitchen question
MESSAGE: I don't know the manufacturer but it looks like a 1950s kitchen except for the new dishwasher. It's beautiful

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Post# 26129-1/28/2003-07:32 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire Jetcone Set
MESSAGE: Just as my birthday approached last week, I got a call from California Appliance Recycling Factory in Riverside, Ca. that they just got in a Frigidaire jetcone washer and dryer set in mint condition. I did the one hour drive there from Palm Springs and bought the set. They are to be delivered this week. I can't wait to do my first load in the jetcone. I do not know how to post pictures but will try. All that will be left to complete my small collection will be to find a Thor Automagic top loader spinner washer.

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Post# 26130-1/28/2003-07:36 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: American classic kitchen question (Set Your Heart on a Crosley!)
MESSAGE: It looks to me like an Avco design with the slanted drawer fronts. Avco owned Bendix and Crosley appliances and also made kitchen cabinets. I scanned a copy of a brochure that I have from 1954, probably a little earlier than the kitchen you linked to, you'll notice chrome pulls on the drawers in the ad that are missing on the pictured kitchen. Avco home appliances (Crosley & Bendix) were sold in 1956, but I don't know what happened to the cabinet division then. There is also a '54 Crosley washer and dryer ad in that same photo album.
LINK: http://edit.photos.yahoo.com/edit/gansky1/fupload_parent?.dir=/Ads+Articles+Brochures&.src=ph&.action=upload&.view=t&.vty=p&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Ads%2bArticles%2bBrochures%26.src=ph%26.view=t

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Post# 26131-1/28/2003-07:41 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Visamatic! In Pink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MESSAGE: I haven't used the wringer for a few weeks, it is a lot of fun and very fast if you use an automatic to rinse and final spin!


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Post# 26132-1/28/2003-07:42 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Weekend Finds with Flair (My toaster)
MESSAGE: I found this toaster at a sale a few years back, I see them all the time though. My grandmother had one for many years just like mine, I always thought it made the best toast. You can still find nice ones on ebay too.

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Post# 26133-1/28/2003-07:44 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Combo & Roll Out Dishwasher
MESSAGE: Yay! I was wondering if they were "in color" as the pictures in the auction hinted to. Sunny yellow - what a fun surprise! Can't wait to see more - they looked like they were in very nice shape.

Drive safe Jimmy - Greg

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Post# 26134-1/28/2003-07:45 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Jetcone Set
MESSAGE: Sounds like you found a 70's 1-18 set? Congrats and hopefully they won't need much work to get you washing! You've certainly aquired some neat things this last year - now for the Thor!

Do you have any way to post pictures of your beauties?

Good luck - Greg

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Post# 26135-1/28/2003-09:38 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: American classic kitchen question (Set Your Heart on a Crosley!)
MESSAGE: Greg,

I can't view the brochure, I get "Acces denied", I guess you have the album set to private still?

This kitchen is still sold overhere, it's especially for people into fifties stuff. BTW, did I mention the doors on the cabinets are metal?

Louis

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Post# 26136-1/28/2003-09:48 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Jetcone Set
MESSAGE: wow, Ross, congrads, what great finds !!, I hope to see pics, best of luck with them.............-gregm

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Post# 26137-1/28/2003-14:27 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Jetcone Set
MESSAGE: Wow Ross, what a lucky find!!! Hope you will be washing soon. Are they a particular color or white? Whatever they are, best of luck with them!! So nice when a mint condition set is available. You know, those things were built so well that if in mint condition you should have years more service. Not like today's stuff......

Congratulations!

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Post# 26138-1/28/2003-17:21 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: American classic kitchen question (Set Your Heart on a Crosley!)
MESSAGE: I'm not sure what happened - I tried the link and got the "upload photos" page - anyway, try this link. The Crosley cabinets would have been all metal too. Avco made cabinets, Frigidaire had a line of cabinets as well as GE, Hotpoint, etc.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Ads+Articles+Brochures&.dnm=Crosley+Kitchens.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t

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Post# 26139-1/28/2003-17:48 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Jetcone Set
MESSAGE: Happy belated birthday! I hope it was a good one. Congrats on the new Frigidaires. What a wonderful addition to your collection. I hope that you get many years of enjoyment out of them. Those machines were built to last. BTW, how did you make out with that slant front Westy? Your last report was that it had to be sent off for repairs upon arrival.

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Post# 26140-1/28/2003-19:44 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: American classic kitchen question (Set Your Heart on a Crosley!)
MESSAGE: Hey guys, my parents had a kitchen full of these back in the mid to late 60's. I remember my mom could not wait to get rid of them! My dad and brother pulled them off of the walls and me and my mom scraped up the black & white checker patterned asphalt floor tiles. (Blasphemy!) Think I was 7 or 8 at the time. Anyway, they were known as Youngstown-American steel kitchens. The doors were very heavy and unfortunately the hinges would wear. As did the door closure hardware. The less used and in good shape cabinets were reused and relocated to the basement workbench area.

Friends of my parents had a GE kitchen cabinets in turquoise with Pink GE appliances put in their new home in 1960. Waaay cool. Only the dishwasher has been replaced. Whirlpool Corp., also had steel cabinets called "Wonder-life"....in the 50's & early 60's. You can catch a glimpse of them in several scenes of the Doris Day--Rock Hudson movie "Pillow Talk". They're in Doris' NY apt.

There were literally thousands of post WWII houses built in developments in the Buffalo NY area that had these Youngstown- American kitchens. Surely there are plenty still there. Most notable is community known as Green-Acres in Tonawanda......virtually every California ranch there had them. Fun memories....take care..



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Post# 26141-1/28/2003-20:28 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (kochautomat--childhood detergent smells)
MESSAGE: Well, I'm back. The internet virus upset my access to several sites. Anyway Jon, I can't believe that you couldn't come up with a smell from your childhood, I can't imagine that would deter a gent such as you. Like I've posted b4, my earliest was Rinso Blue.

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Post# 26142-1/28/2003-20:30 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire 1-18 set
MESSAGE: Anthony, I always try to send you positive thoughts and well-wishes for a fruitful employment endeavor. I'm rootin' in your corner.

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Post# 26143-1/28/2003-20:38 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Weekend Finds with Flair
MESSAGE: Greg, what finds!! And what a contradiction, the picture of the vintage vac coffee pots and the Asko's control panel!!!

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Post# 26144-1/28/2003-20:42 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire 1-18 set
MESSAGE: Anthony, I had the same feeling after 20 years. And then out of work for over 18 months.

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Post# 26145-1/28/2003-20:44 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Combo & Roll Out Dishwasher
MESSAGE: WOW Jimmy!!!! I'm bursing with excitement. I guess the wall oven was long gone!!!! Are tandem push buttons the wall-mounted panel? If not, what is that?

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Post# 26146-1/28/2003-20:49 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Jetcone Set
MESSAGE: Wow Ross, I'm drooling!!!

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Post# 26147-1/28/2003-21:07 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: American classic kitchen question (Set Your Heart on a Crosley!)
MESSAGE: Greetings, L.P.!  

Hmmmm.  I need to go find "Pillow Talk" - never have seen it.

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Post# 26148-1/28/2003-22:05 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: American classic kitchen question (Set Your Heart on a Crosley!)
MESSAGE: Leslie, it's great to seeyou--have missed having you around much. Per Pillow Talk, wasn't Selma Diamond Doris' NY apt. maid? One of my favorite movies, Rock was in it, so I didn't pay much attention to much of anything else. Although I do remember another one of their movies together, the suburban kitchen had a spray-tube 1964 or 1965 Frigidaire dishwasher in yellow.

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Post# 26149-1/28/2003-22:18 ||| Soharra (Huntsville, Alabama)
SUBJECT: Buying on eBay
MESSAGE: Has anyone out there had any success in buying washers and dishwashers on eBay? Specifically, crating and shipping! Seems like most of the great stuff I have seen is 500+ miles away!

I've bought/sold vacuum cleaners and other small, easy to ship appliances and 6-set dining room chairs, but nothing weighing over 80-pounds.

Just curious if I'm wasting my time bidding on something that will be a major $$ or challenge to deliver!

Thanks for your helpful insight!

Shawn

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Post# 26150-1/29/2003-02:45 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: American classic kitchen question (Set Your Heart on a Crosley!)
MESSAGE: Thank you Greg, great picture, but this isn't exactly the same one, or did they have several models?

Louis

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Post# 26151-1/29/2003-04:09 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer (kochautomat--childhood detergent smells)
MESSAGE: I am sure we all have those. I had several early ones - Cheer and Fab (in the gold foil "moisture proof" box)were two big ones as well as Dash, Silver Dust and Oxydol. And occasionally, Instant Fels.............

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Post# 26152-1/29/2003-04:15 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: American classic kitchen question (Set Your Heart on a Crosley!)
MESSAGE: It was on one of the cable channels not more than a week ago! I remember seeing it with my parents in the movies. Of course in those days, Saturday nights meant dinner at the Chinese restaurant in downtown Brooklyn and then a movie at the RKO Albee - which was like a miniature Radio City Music Hall. THEN, if were flush, it was ice cream sodas at Junior's. And finally a walk down Fulton Street with window shopping at Martin's, Abraham and Straus, Namm's and Loeser Brothers.

If I remember correctly, Pillow Talk was reviewed as a typical Day and Hudson "gay romp". Hmmm.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,

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Post# 26153-1/29/2003-07:02 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Buying on eBay (buying on ebay)
MESSAGE: hi shawn....i live in palm springs, california and i purchased westinghouse front loader from someone in savannah, ga for $300.00....i arranged with local freight company to ship machine here from start to finish....picking machine up in the person's house in savannah to delivering it to my home in palm springs.....cost $785.00....yes, the shipping cost more....and the machine that i was told was in working condition was dead when it arrived here....still in repair shop...it has been completely rewired, new solenoid, new bearings and gaskets....dont know what total cost will be....so if you wish to purchase machine many miles away, shipping may cost more than the machine....and you wont know the condition until it arrives at your house.....

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Post# 26154-1/29/2003-07:04 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Jetcone Set (frigidaire jetcome set)
MESSAGE: hi greg....i do not know how to post pictures to yahoo...still awaiting arrival of machines but will take pictures with my digital camera... and can send email....yes, i am still waiting for thor....wonder if i will ever find one....

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Post# 26155-1/29/2003-07:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: American classic kitchen question (Set Your Heart on a Crosley!)
MESSAGE: I suspect the picture is an early version of this similar design (with the chrome drawer pulls) from 1954. I remember a neighbor of my grandparents that had the same cabinets without those, but with the slanted drawers as pictured.

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Post# 26156-1/29/2003-07:31 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Buying on eBay (buying on ebay - appliance shipping)
MESSAGE: Craters and Freighters Inc. does a wonderful job for a reasonable price. If there is a branch in the area of the appliance to be shipped, they will pick up, pack and crate it and ship it to you. There is a branch-search function on their website.
LINK: http://www.cratersandfreighters.com/

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Post# 26157-1/29/2003-07:34 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Jetcone Set (frigidaire jetcome set)
MESSAGE: Yahoo photos is very simple to use, just register with Yahoo and then upload photos from files on your computer just like attaching them to emails.

Good luck - Greg

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Post# 26158-1/29/2003-13:08 ||| soharra (Huntsville, Alabama)
SUBJECT: RE: Buying on eBay (buying on ebay - appliance shipping)
MESSAGE: Thanks much! Now, if I can only find that Mobile Maid!

Shawn

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Post# 26159-1/29/2003-13:09 ||| soharra (Huntsville, Alabama)
SUBJECT: RE: Buying on eBay (buying on ebay)
MESSAGE: Ross,

Thanks for your advice!

Shawn

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Post# 26160-1/29/2003-14:17 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Speaking of eBay
MESSAGE: 1956 Maytag dryer in Philadelphia being offered on eBay...

-ph
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2305019221&category=20714

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Post# 26161-1/29/2003-15:42 ||| soharra (Huntsville, Alabama)
SUBJECT: Does Anyone Know Who Junk Yard Guy Is?
MESSAGE: I was out bid by $1.00 for a 1950's GE Undercounter Topload. Does anyone know this guy?

Shawn

LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?viewitem&item=3202036641&ssPageName=ADME:X:ON:US:2

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Post# 26162-1/29/2003-15:43 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay
MESSAGE: Wow!

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Post# 26163-1/29/2003-16:34 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Does Anyone Know Who Junk Yard Guy Is? (Filter-Flo)
MESSAGE: Isn't that the dishwasher that goes with the combo that Jimmy "FilterFlo" won? I bet JunkYardGuy is his aol name...

-ph

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Post# 26164-1/29/2003-16:50 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (WOULD SOMEBODY BID PLEASE!!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Everyone! Would someone PLEASE bid on this dryer??? It's such a classic and would be a shame for someone in the club to not get it. I would love to bid but HAVE NO MORE ROOM!!! Mark

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Post# 26165-1/29/2003-16:53 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Does Anyone Know Who Junk Yard Guy Is?
MESSAGE: If you want to win something on ebay, you have to put in a bid that is the absolute highest you'll pay for the item, because if you don't, someone will wait until THE LAST MINUTE of the bidding process and win the bid sometimes by fifty cents! It can be a real heartbreaker. Mark

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Post# 26166-1/29/2003-17:39 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (WOULD SOMEBODY BID PLEASE!!!)
MESSAGE: Wow! That dryer is as old a me. (It looks likes it in much better shape too! ;-)) I too hope that someone in the club gets it. This is another time when I wish that I lived in a house instead of an apartment. Sigh!

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Post# 26167-1/29/2003-17:50 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Does Anyone Know Who Junk Yard Guy Is? (Filter-Flo)
MESSAGE: Yup, that's Jimmy. He posted a message about winning the auction for the combo washer/dryer and the matching dishwasher in sunny yellow.

Check out this service especially for this type of situation - AuctionSniper.com will post your bid in the very last seconds of the auction so that you won't miss out. You can still be outbid, but your chances are better as close to the end of the auction as possible. I've won several things this way - it's great!
LINK: http://www.auctionsniper.com/

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Post# 26168-1/29/2003-17:52 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay
MESSAGE: That is lovely, saw one of these (gas) at an estate sale a month or so ago. The matching washer is in the warehouse/store in Iowa I found last summer.

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Post# 26169-1/29/2003-21:07 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: RE: Does Anyone Know Who Junk Yard Guy Is? (Filter-Flo)
MESSAGE: Yes Soharra, Im Filter Flo on this club, and use the name Junkyardguy on ebay. I won the auction, but go back and check the bid history. You will see that it was you that first outbid me, as I was the first bidder. And remember, whether you use acutionsnipe or not, its the HIGHEST bidder that wins. The Westinghouse slant front pair on ebay right now its going to be an interesting auction; We never used to bid against each other on auctions, guess thats a thing of the past..........

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Post# 26170-1/29/2003-21:23 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Does Anyone Know Who Junk Yard Guy Is? (Filter-Flo (bidding against))
MESSAGE: For what its worth, I do not have a problem with any club member bidding against me. If someone is willing to spend more than me, so be it. I hope whomever gets these machines will take care of them, enjoy them, and maybe share them with other club members to an extent that is comfortable enough for them.

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Post# 26171-1/29/2003-21:35 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Does Anyone Know Who Junk Yard Guy Is? (Are you home yet? Or on the way?)
MESSAGE: Jimmy,
I looked up what you won these machines for and I could not believe the deal that you got on them! That is wonderful! I wonder if the only reason the combo did not go for big bucks was because of it lacking a window. I know that last pink GE combo that was on Ebay went for over a grand. I don't think we ever heard anything else about that one. Didn't a club member buy it?
Well, you are lucky, and I am happy you got them.
I was wondering if you got any history on the machines while you were there? I wonder when was the last time they were ran.
Well, I am happy for you.
I hope that you have a safe trip home if you are not home already.
Take some pictures!
Brent

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Post# 26172-1/29/2003-21:39 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Does Anyone Know Who Junk Yard Guy Is? (You are such a nice Gentleman!)
MESSAGE: Greg you are so nice!
Although I love that pair, I can't think about shucking out that much money, then paying shipping on top of that. I am sure shipping would be over $1,500 for the two.
Can JIMMY pick them up on his way home? :) Where are they. I need to look at the eBay ad again.
Happy bidding to all!
Brent

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Post# 26173-1/29/2003-21:41 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (Hou much did they want for it?)
MESSAGE: Greg,
Sounds like you have been working like crazy!
Why did you pass up that gas Maytag? Were they asking too much?
I know that you have been looking for a gas dryer.
Do tell....
Get some rest!
Brent

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Post# 26174-1/29/2003-21:49 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Bauknecht washing machines brochure 1964/65 including "Kochautomat" (Some technical information (Thanks for posting))
MESSAGE: Louis,
I loved the brochures! Those were very good looking machines.
Do you ever see any of these models that have made it this far? Were the commercial machines very popular in the Laundry Mats? Do you ever see the old ones still running?
I love the looks of the fronts, and the controls look very ahead of it's time from the other machines that I have seen in your brochure collection.
Thanks again!
Brent

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Post# 26175-1/29/2003-22:26 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Buying on eBay (buying on ebay - appliance shipping MOBILE MAID)
MESSAGE: Shawn:
check this link out.
Jetcone


LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2304024637&category=20715

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Post# 26176-1/29/2003-22:44 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (1956 Maytag dryer)
MESSAGE: There's a gas dryer just like htis for sale at my local former Maytag dealer that now specializes in refurbed appliances.

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Post# 26177-1/29/2003-22:50 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Does Anyone Know Who Junk Yard Guy Is? (Are you home yet? Or on the way?)
MESSAGE: Jimmy, I echo what Brent said. Huggs, Bob

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Post# 26178-1/29/2003-22:54 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (1956 Maytag dryer)
MESSAGE: Realllllyyyy . . . hmmmmmm . . . and you have all that space in the garage . . .

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Post# 26179-1/29/2003-23:43 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (Hou much did they want for it?)
MESSAGE: Hi Brent--

I'm home in the evenings, but still seem to keep myself busy around here too, wish it was warmer so I could work in the garage.

The Maytag dryer I saw was marked $10 and was $5 on Sunday, but it was more than likely "trapped" in the remodeled basement of the house. I didn't feel like messing with it for a dryer I really didn't want anyway. The Maytag Master washer (wringer) was there as well for $25 (12.50) I want a BIG capacity gas dryer with a hot burner to use out in the garage - like my GE in gas or that 68 Whirlpool on ebay a while back with the paneling on the door. All in due time...

Hope you are well - Greg

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Post# 26180-1/30/2003-01:43 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: RE: Does Anyone Know Who Junk Yard Guy Is? (You are such a nice Gentleman!)
MESSAGE: Hi Brent, thanks for the kind words. I found out a little of the history of the GE Combo and dishwaser: The ebay people I bought them from were very charming people. They purchased the house from the original owner, the house having been built in 1955. It was an original All Electric Gold Medallion Home with a complete GE kitchen in it, including the wall refrigerator. The refrigerator has been replaced by the time they bought the house, but all the rest of the kitchen was still intact. They said that this house had been the model house for the development, and that Ronald Reagan had actually been present for the open houses and showings. That makes senses logically, since he was the spokesman for GE during that time period. The items I got had the original owners manuals with them, but had not been used in a long time. The seals do look very dry, as is typical. The had the wall oven and pushbutton cooktop and offered them to me free if I wanted them, I did take the cooktop, but did not have room for the wall oven. Its still there if anyone wants it. I can put you in touch with the owner if need be......Im currently in LA until Sunday, and them am going to Orange Cty to visit Rich (GOLittleSport) from the club. Met Ross Roberts and Rich from Palm Springs last week and we had a nice dinner together. Driving back thru Phoenix to pick up the Frigidaire SkinnyMini that i bought there, then back on the road home for Ohio. Will be home about the middle of Feb.....Miss you all, and certainly enjoy the club and posting while Im far away from home........Jimmy

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Post# 26181-1/30/2003-02:30 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Bauknecht washing machines brochure 1964/65 including "Kochautomat" (Some technical information (Thanks for posting))
MESSAGE: Hi Brent,

I never saw those machines around when I was young and I never saw them later. I guess they never made it to this part of the country. Besides that I think that they weren't very popular, I guess they were pretty expensive. Also Constructa was leader in the boiling market. When I was young I knew at least three households that had one.

In the Netherlands almost all laundromats had Miele machines, I can't remember seeing other machines being used, but I'm sure there were others. Later Electrolux became popular and took over quite a part of the market. Laundromats disappeared almost in the eighties when almost everybody had it's own washer, but there are some new ones now. In this town with 170,000 people there are now 5 laundromats.

The controls were actually not that different from other machines from that time. Most of them had a timer, a temperature control and some sort of cycle selection. Miele had toggle switches for cycle selection, Bosch and Bauknecht had a third rotary control. Some TOL machines had a single knob like modern Mieles have.

Louis

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Post# 26182-1/30/2003-05:57 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Does Anyone Know Who Junk Yard Guy Is? (Filter-Flo)
MESSAGE: So many things have changed recently, Jimmy. It's almost impossible to avoid bidding against someone else in the club these days. Perhaps that was the original intention, but the club has grown so much in the past year and the supply of vintage appliances appears to be shrinking. So it seems that the natural end is something like this.

Another principle of the original club that seems to be only a memory was to try and avoid having washers selling for very high prices. At the time, the concern was that once used appliance dealers figured out that people wanted these washers, prices would skyrocket - creating a hugely inflated "market price". Yet, you will remember that when Robert (Unimatic) sold his turquoise Frigidaire some months ago, the bidding war on e-bay drove the price over $1,000. I am sure I still don't understand why it was OK for us to drive prices up ourselves on e-bay, but objected to a used appliance store charging an incredible price...

I am not sure if club members bidding against each other on e-bay is such a good idea either. It can lead to bad feelings especially when you have a few people with deep pockets that can and will outbid those of more modest means on any auction. In effect then, these are the people setting the pricing structure at a high level. But I am equally as unsure exactly what the right answer is either........

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Post# 26183-1/30/2003-06:35 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Does Anyone Know Who Junk Yard Guy Is? (Jimmy you sound like you are having a blast!)
MESSAGE: Jimmy,
Thanks for that interesting information about you new aquired GE Combo, dishwasher and range top. The history of the house alone was amazing.
I am glad that you are having such a great time on your trip. Actually envious.
Have a safe trip back home, and take pictures of your new toys for all of us.
Brent

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Post# 26184-1/30/2003-06:42 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (Trapped!)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg,
Funny how people remodel and rebuild never thinking that they will need to get something out or in at some point of their lives.
I bet that you will find an Americana gas GE soon. I just feel it. So, I guess that you are using your electric Americana as your BIG dryer? Has your opionion stayed the same about it?
And about that Whirpool Gas dryer that was on eBay... Didn't a club member get that one? I never heard anything about it.
You do have a gas dryer hooked up don't you?
Brent

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Post# 26185-1/30/2003-07:22 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire Tech Talk 1958
MESSAGE: For anyone interested in the Frigidaire washers of 1958, here's a must have. This manual has an excellent section on repairing and rebuilding the unimatic mechanism (1947-58) and looks to be in very nice condition.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=20713&item=2305409289

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Post# 26186-1/30/2003-07:24 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: POD
MESSAGE: Far be it from me to criticise Norge, but I believe I would have rethought the idea of the "NORGE RIPPLETTE" wash system. I'm not sure I would want to trust my cashmere to something with that name!

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Post# 26187-1/30/2003-07:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Does Anyone Know Who Junk Yard Guy Is? (You are such a nice Gentleman!)
MESSAGE: Very interesting story on the appliances - I'll bet that was a beautiful kitchen.

If this was installed in 1955, this washer is probably the one Jetcone mentioned with a transmission instead of the later, three belt design- the very first GE combo. Quite a find and the dishwasher too! Congrats again and have a safe trip!

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Post# 26188-1/30/2003-07:39 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (Trapped!)
MESSAGE: I looked around that basement and saw the sharp turns and steep steps going up and knew then I wouldn't be the owner of that dryer. I wasn't interested in that one much anyway as I already have the 54 Speed Queen dryer in gas hooked up, but it's a smaller capacity that can't handle big loads from the Maytag or GE very well.

I do like the GE dryer although it does have it's drawbacks. It is electric and therefore much less efficient than gas and then there is the lint/airflow issue that gets annoying. Consumer Reports didn't care for the huge door as you couldn't have a basket in front of the door and open or close it without moving the basket. I thought this was a little silly at first, but it turns out that it is a little annoying, especially since there is limited room where I have it installed - too much crap in my garage, I know, but still a valid complaint. I do love the huge opening and the capacity is wonderful and of course, it is beautiful - even in gold!

I'm not sure who ended up getting the WP on ebay - too far to ship a dryer

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Post# 26189-1/30/2003-09:18 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: POD
MESSAGE: I agree with you about the riplette name. But the POD is fantastic. One of the best we've ever had. I'd love to see one of these fine 56's in pink, green or yellow too. I'm glad Robert had this machine in his collection and in the cyber museum for us to enjoy.

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Post# 26190-1/30/2003-09:28 ||| julimccrary (texas)
SUBJECT: youngstown kitchen cabinet
MESSAGE: I have a Youngstown kitchen cabinet from 1940s-1950s which had a dishwasher to the right of the sink. The appliance has been "gutted". I want info on possibility of restoration. I have never seen one before and know nothing about them but cabinet and sink are in excellent condition.

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Post# 26191-1/30/2003-14:21 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (Trapped!)
MESSAGE: That Whirlpool dryer was brought by Surgilator_68.

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Post# 26192-1/30/2003-15:09 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (Trapped!)
MESSAGE: That was bought for the museum and is now in Maryland.

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Post# 26193-1/30/2003-19:30 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (Whirlpool at the Museum from Georgia!)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the update Jason.
That is a great place for it!
Did you hear if they hooked it up and tried it out?
I was going to bid on it, but was out of town at the time.
Brent

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Post# 26194-1/30/2003-21:08 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (1956 Maytag dryer)
MESSAGE: You sound just like Steve 1-18 Glenn. Remember though, I live in an all-electric house. No gas.

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Post# 26195-1/30/2003-21:36 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (1956 Maytag dryer)
MESSAGE: Well . . . you don't necessarily have to run it, just give it a nice home!

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Post# 26196-1/30/2003-23:07 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (1956 Maytag dryer)
MESSAGE: It would drive me crazy not being able to use it. After all, why have a vintage appliance if one can't use it?

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Post# 26197-1/30/2003-23:34 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (1956 Maytag dryer)
MESSAGE: You could plug it in and use it for fluffing pillows... or better yet, have your shop convert it to propane and buy your fuel at the market!

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Post# 26198-1/30/2003-23:36 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: youngstown kitchen cabinet
MESSAGE: How "gutted" is the dishwasher?

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Post# 26199-1/31/2003-00:38 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (1956 Maytag dryer)
MESSAGE: Why not convert it to electric?

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Post# 26200-1/31/2003-06:06 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (1956 Maytag dryer)
MESSAGE: Are we sure it is gas to begin with? I always thought any Maytag dryer with that little door at the bottom was a gas model, but one of those pics shows that door open and it doesn't look like any kind of pilot light assembly I have seen before. I almost thought it was a condenser dryer because it looked as if it was a little drawer that pulled out. Of course I didn't have my glasses on when I looked at the picture so it was a bit fuzzy.......

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Post# 26201-1/31/2003-07:35 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (1956 Maytag dryer (It is Electric))
MESSAGE: The Maytag on Ebay is electric.
Gansky was talking about seeing the Gas model at an estate sale.
Postings were blurred. Not your eyes.
Brent

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Post# 26202-1/31/2003-07:52 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (1956 Maytag dryer Swap)
MESSAGE: Brent, that is a cute dryer on ebay! I love the styling. I would love to have it but it always comes down to choosing between space for that "next" washer find or having another dryer. That seems to be the choice we face in this hobby.
What I think should happen is Uni converts to ALL dryers and I take his washers and convert to ALL washers,then that way ALL the appliances get saved. Then I ship the clean wet clothes out to Minnie to get dried. And Robert can ship them back folded.
wahttya say robert????????
jet

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Post# 26203-1/31/2003-08:57 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (1956 Maytag dryer I think you have something there!)
MESSAGE: Jon,
You are so funny.
What is your next project that you will be working on as far as your machines go? Have you been using your GE Combo around the clock?
Wanted to ask you if you have ever worked on the Launderall machine that you have. Do you know what it needs? Tell us a little about it. I think it is so cool that you have one.
Thanks Jon!
Brent

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Post# 26204-1/31/2003-11:38 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: More on American Kitchens
MESSAGE: Some days ago I posted a question about a kitchen. Well, I put my snowboots on and went to the shop that sells them. They gave me a copy of a brochure, I scanned only the frontpage since that was the only one they had copied in color. I also put some other pictures, that I eventually found, in my Yahoo album.

This kitchen was designed by Raymond Loewy (1893 - 1986), who was also the designer of the Greyhound bus, the Shell logo, the Lucky Strike package and also designed for Studebaker and NASA. This kitchen was introduced in the US in 1956 and in the Netherlands in 1959, where it was produced too. The Dutch manufacturer went broke in 1970. It looks very similar to the Crosley kitchen Greg posted a picture of(thanks again!), only this one doesn't have the handles on the drawers. So fat chance this kitchen was sold in the US by Crosley, but I haven't found anything about that. Confusing to me was the fact that this kitchen was named in the Netherlands different than in the US. Originally this kitchen was named "Look", but in the Netherlands they were sold under the name "American Kitchens".

Overhere in the Netherlands there are two dealers for them now that buy old kitchens and restore them. I have never seen them as a kid, but as the guy from the shop said:"How many houses do you see from the inside anyway?" (Not enough!) According to this guy there are enough left to keep them selling for a while.

Louis
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/lst?.dir=/American+kitchens&.view=t

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Post# 26205-1/31/2003-12:29 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: More on American Kitchens
MESSAGE: They are simply beautiful!

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Post# 26206-1/31/2003-17:09 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: More on American Kitchens
MESSAGE: Thanks for the update - your research is interesting, perhaps someone will know the US manufacturer of these cabinets. I found this site a while ago about evolution of the kitchen and housewife over the years, it has another picture of the "Look" kitchen by Raymond Loewy & Assoc. under Dreaming the Postwar Kitchen. There are also interesting pages on the history of electricity in the kitchen, cooking utensils, etc.
LINK: http://uwadmnweb.uwyo.edu/AMS/WebCt_Mall/myweb/consumergoods/consumerism_and_kitchen_goods.htm

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Post# 26207-1/31/2003-18:13 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: Today's POD (1/31/03)
MESSAGE: I had to laugh when I read the text that accompanied the Hotpoint ad in today's POD. It brags about the fact that the washer could "handle tiny 2-lb loads without special attachments". Hotpoint is a division of GE. The model's hair style, the 16-lb claimed capacity for the washer, the removable teflon coated oven panels, and design of the fridge, that are also part of the ad, suggests that Hotpoint ran this ad in the around the same time that GE was running ads that bragged about its "mini-basket" for very small loads. LOL! Talk about two divisions of the same company not knowing what each was doing when it came to advertising!

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Post# 26208-1/31/2003-18:41 ||| soharra (Huntsville, Alabama)
SUBJECT: RE: Does Anyone Know Who Junk Yard Guy Is? (Filter-Flo)
MESSAGE: Filter-Flo:

Thanks for the reply. I'll now recognize you on eBay. Hope you enjoy the machine! Let me know how it works! I am still on the lookout for a similar model (prefer the portable, but would take the undercounter...but either must have the impeller-style wash system {not the spray-arm system}).

All's fair that end's fair....I was out of the house during the last hours of the bid. I would have had to pay crating/shipping costs anyway!

Good Luck!

Shawn

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Post# 26209-1/31/2003-19:59 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Georgia wash-in(s) (HI parunner, DW lover here too)
MESSAGE: hey im into dishwashers also. looking for a top loader or unique front loader. Building a breakfast bar & hope to get a old vintage machine to add to it. Anything you could send me info or pic's would be greatly appreciated. Michael mikepaquette@hotmail.com

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Post# 26210-1/31/2003-20:23 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (1956 Maytag dryer Swap)
MESSAGE: Jon, I think the plan has potential, but I perceive it's fraught with wrinkles. Although, you might end up with the short end of the stick given it's more expensive to ship damp clothes than dry ones. And there's the issue of the combos. Do they classify as a washer or a dryer? Let's see, Robert has 2 combos, how many do you have? I can't remember, I think three is what I'm taking a stab at, but there may be one or two more that I am unaware of in your collection. There's also another issue that you might get short-changed with (now I'm just trying to be objective here and thinking of both sides here). You know I love you and Uni both dearly so I can say this without offense (and ahem, I have room to talk LOL) --It would still be more expensive for you. I mean, your laundry volume would probably still be more than the combination of Robert & Neal's together simply because neither you nor I are slight in any way. Yes, I've even thought about sending my voluminous amounts of laundry to Robert's, Steve's, Greg's, or your house (& flying to the locale for this maxi-wash-in), just so ALL my wash can be done in classic washers and treated with so much respect than my Shredmore. But the expense every two months would still be unBEARable for me. So, I think in the interst of fairness to both parties & collections concerned, maybe respective washers & dryers should stay in their current homes. I do have one suggestion though, MAKE YOUR BASEMENTS LARGER. Start digging new tunnels and spaces toward your neighbors' basements!!! (Well, I'll say it already, I can feel the slap from one of those six vanes coming. If I weather those slaps, does that make it a weather vane?)

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Post# 26211-1/31/2003-20:28 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD (1/31/03)
MESSAGE: Mike, I disagree. I thinnk both divisions knew what each was doing. It waas simply market positioning of the respective product/feature mix that uniquely set each other apart at the time. I mean, look at P&G with Tide & cheer back then. Both were excellent products, just pitched to different audiences or consumer segments--much like GE & Hotpoint.

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Post# 26212-1/31/2003-20:32 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: congratulations Greg M
MESSAGE: Congratulations are in order ... the bidding has closed and it looks like GregM just got himself a beautiful Westinghouse Laundromat set. I expect to see pics soon!!! Great buy for such a nice set. Enjoy!!!

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Post# 26213-2/1/2003-00:58 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: congratulations Greg M
MESSAGE: GregM, really happy for ya and proud of ya for winnin'!!! At this rate, I sense a wash-in convention at your house some day too!!!

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Post# 26214-2/1/2003-04:52 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (1956 Maytag dryer Swap)
MESSAGE: Let's do that with other things too. For example with pets. One gets all the dogs....

Too far away for a slap!!!!

Louis

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Post# 26215-2/1/2003-08:29 ||| julimccrary (texas)
SUBJECT: RE: youngstown kitchen cabinet
MESSAGE: There is nothing mechanical underneath the cabinet.When you look inside from the top all you see is the tub with a hole down through the center to the ground beneath. It does still have the cover with a glass window in the center.

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Post# 26216-2/1/2003-08:39 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: 50's 30" GE DW
MESSAGE: At another site there was a reference made to a GE DW from the 50's that was top load, built in and 30" wide. It is claimed that it had a motorized tub that worked "like a garage door opener" to slide in and out. We had a 1954 Sunny Yellow slide out GE, but I don't remember anything like what they discribed. Can anyone offer any info? (think how much fun you could have with a remote controlled slide out drawer!!!)

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Post# 26217-2/1/2003-08:55 ||| filekar1 (italy)
SUBJECT: RE: More Bauknecht brochure pictures
MESSAGE: Hi foraloysius is very interesting this old Bauknecht brochure.
I suppose that Constructa and Bauknecht was the same brandt because my grandmother Constructa was like B. commercial but it was only a 5 kg washer, bolted down.
I remember another thing; because it was a kockautomat it had two drain hose one to drain water and one to drain condensed steam when boiling the withes. In Brochure there is a photo called "using it as a portable" and B had two hoses in the sink. These were the two hoses that had C. too, or it was a suds return sistem?
My aunt had a washer that have an automatic suds return it was an INDESIT washer, built in Italy in the middle of the '60, a front loader with an inside suds return sistem known as "vasca di recupero" and it looked like B in this photo. BYE

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Post# 26218-2/1/2003-11:04 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (1956 Maytag dryer Swap)
MESSAGE: GASP!

How many vanes does a Roto-Flex agitator have - we'll mount it on the end of a motor shaft and turn it into a slapping machine!

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Post# 26219-2/1/2003-11:25 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: Wash-In / workshop
MESSAGE: Hi All!,

On my way over to Jon Charles house for some washer fun. Let's hope we don't have to call the Fire Dept. to get rid of all the SUDS! HAHAHA.

Hopefully we will get some pics to post.

Cheers

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Post# 26220-2/1/2003-12:00 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD (1/31/03)
MESSAGE: Good point!

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Post# 26221-2/1/2003-13:58 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: POD 2/1/2003
MESSAGE: Love those old Sears ads and catalog clips!

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Post# 26222-2/1/2003-14:39 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Maytag tops!
MESSAGE: I just got a set of Maytag tops!This meaning the Control board and the lid to the washer, every thing still on its hinges,blah blah blah. But, They are a Matching set from the seventies! I love the way the control board looks, with the dial in the center, it is sooooo dreamy!The washer top is in mint condition, no dents, no scratches, and no cracks! The dryer has some cracking at the corners of the conrol board, and it has some scratches, but they are both beautiful!

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Post# 26223-2/1/2003-19:08 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag tops!
MESSAGE: That's great Jamie! Enjoy them!

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Post# 26224-2/1/2003-20:46 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag tops! (Maytag tops)
MESSAGE: Hi Jamie,
I want to wish you best of luck and enjoy the set.
Peter

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Post# 26225-2/1/2003-21:09 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag tops!
MESSAGE: Very nice!

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Post# 26226-2/1/2003-21:17 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: congratulations Greg M (thnx)
MESSAGE: thank you tcox...............I hope to drive out and pick them up next weekend or latter half of this week. Pics will follow..........

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Post# 26227-2/1/2003-21:18 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: congratulations Greg M (thnx)
MESSAGE: thanks Bob, I am very lucky/fortunate ............

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Post# 26228-2/1/2003-21:21 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Wash-In / workshop (great time)
MESSAGE: We had a great time, Bruce I hope your able to get some photos out here at some point. I know your very busy now, but I just wanted to say how much I loved the photos of your collection. I am sure the club will enjoy them just as much. Great to see you today...

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Post# 26229-2/1/2003-21:38 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: Kenmore Suspension
MESSAGE: Today I was in the basement de-greasing my 24" Kenmore. :-))
This machine is greasy and grimy from the inside-out...

As we all know, a washer in a kitchen catches more grease than the stove. :-((
So I must use more Simple Green to get the rest of the job done! But what I seen in this machine is hair, hair and more greasy hair all on the interior cabinet and parts! More on the machine less in the tub, I wonder why?

This machine works fine and not much needs to be done on this machine but to replace the water inlet valve, bed of nails lint filter, possible suspension balls and a much needed paint job. Also I like to place sound reducing noise on the cabinet to dampen the humming.

Here's my question, the basket leans toward the right; off center. If the balls on the suspension are worn, could it cause the basket to be pulled to the right?

I've added this link even though it may be spinning, its balanced: make note on the position of the basket it's off center as you can see!

Please let me know what to do,

Larry
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/lr9711/vwp?.dir=/Vintage+appliances+found+in+NY/My+new+collection/Kenmore+Agitator&.dnm=Portable+Kenmore+1.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t

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Post# 26230-2/2/2003-01:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Another Westy on Ebay
MESSAGE: Well what do you know, here's another Westinghouse washer!

Model LH-4
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2505327810&category=12

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Post# 26231-2/2/2003-11:27 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Suspension
MESSAGE: Hadn't seen all those pics before, nice!

Regarding the off-center -- is it maybe the tub ring that's a little off-kilter, and not the suspension? I've seen that happen before, but not really in that way -- mostly I've seen tub rings turned a little clockwise or c-clockwise such that the opening in the ring doesn't quite align with the machine's top.

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Post# 26232-2/2/2003-12:41 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Suspension (Link is messed up)
MESSAGE: Give me time to reset the link, changing and rearranging folders caused the link to go out of balanced, sorry!

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Post# 26233-2/2/2003-13:25 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Wash-In / workshop (great time)
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg. I had a great time also. It seems that every time we get together at Jon's the time just flys by. Before I knew it it was 9 pm. Thanks for the many laughs and conversation. Let me know what's up with the Westies.

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Post# 26234-2/2/2003-16:01 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Wash-In / workshop (great time)
MESSAGE: I can just imagine you had a wonderful time. I wish I could have been there!!

Louis

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Post# 26235-2/2/2003-18:03 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: Today's POD 2/2/03 (Kelvinator)
MESSAGE: I have a question. IN the ad copy, it states the washer had timed softener & bleach dispensers. With a solid tub, how did this work. I'm familiar with the WCI65 and similar models with the dispenser in the panel that was timed for liquid detergent and softener, but how did Kelvinator accomplish this?? I hope someone can shed some light on this for me. Also this is the first time I've noticed the buttons on top of the panel, very cool, kinda like a year or two of the LK, although a short guy like me and nearsighted at age 12, this would have been another horrible washer for me to try & use.

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Post# 26236-2/2/2003-18:11 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Wash-In / workshop (great time (pics))
MESSAGE: Greg, I couldn't agree more. Pics of Bruce's collection PUHLEEZE!!! And more of your pics of your additions to your collection too Greg. AND BTW!!!, did anyone manage to take pics of THE wash-in/workshop????? I guess I must email Al and see about the pics he took, after all, he's such an extraordinatory dog.

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Post# 26237-2/2/2003-19:48 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Wash-In / workshop (great time (pics))
MESSAGE: Bob- AL definetly has pictures of Sat Mass Wash In! I will wake him up and get him to post ASAP! He is such a lazy dog!
jet

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Post# 26238-2/2/2003-21:21 ||| steved (Albany, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: 50's 30" GE DW (the " Empress" )
MESSAGE: Yes, Comboboy, I remember this dishwasher, it was the "Empress" model... a 30" version, I think only made for a year or 2 (59, 60). Since I worked for an dealer in Schenectady, NY, the home of GE, many of the developments were built with all GE appliances. This 30" model was very popular with a particular builder, as I remember many homes in his development having it - I had to install new dishwashers with two 3" filler strips on each side, I think they were available from GE at the time..(72-75). The motorized drawer opener was a bomb, cause it was mounted on the base of the unit, under the tub, where water could leak and screw up the drive chain - but it was a neat idea, something sorely missing from most present-day appliance lines.... SteveD

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Post# 26239-2/2/2003-22:51 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD 2/2/03 (Kelvinator)
MESSAGE: The dispensers are on the top of the panel, buttons below the timer dial - 10 on the TOL model. The dispensers were similar in function to the WCI-65 - wells that released contents with a solenoid valve.

If you look very, very closely, you can see the off balance button on the top right side is popped up in the picture indicating an off-balance load!

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Post# 26240-2/3/2003-00:38 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Suspension (Link is messed up)
MESSAGE: All is good so far and take note of the distance between the basket and side walls.....
The basket is about inches 2 1/2 inches from the right-side wall and the left is close to 3 1/2 inches from the left-side wall. The basket is not centered. And here is another photo with the top down.

LINK: http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/lr9711/vwp?.dir=/My+new+collection&.dnm=She+needs+more+de-greasing.jpg&.src=bc&.view=l&.done=http%3a//briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/lr9711/lst%3f%26.dir=/My%2bnew%2bcollection%26.src=bc%26.view=l

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Post# 26241-2/3/2003-05:44 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: vintage dishwashers
MESSAGE: I am looking for a vintage dishwasher. Not sure what I want yet,still think it might be a top loader but ?? If any one has info or pictures to share of dishwashers that are for sale Please send info to mikepaquette@sympatico (new email address) This one will not fill up @ can accept much larger files than hotmail Thanks for your time . Michael

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Post# 26242-2/3/2003-05:52 ||| Mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: Vintage Dishwashers proper email add.
MESSAGE: I am looking for a vintage dishwasher, not sure what kind yet but still slide towards a top loader. If anyone has any info or pic's that you would care to share of machines that might be for sale I would appreciate it. Michael mikepaquette@sympatico.ca

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Post# 26243-2/3/2003-06:39 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: 50's 30" GE DW (Schenectady??)
MESSAGE: Steved:
What dealer in Schenectady did you work for?? And who was that builder that used them?
Jon

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Post# 26244-2/3/2003-12:04 ||| steved (Albany, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: 50's 30" GE DW (Schenectady??)
MESSAGE: Hi Jon, I worked for Roy LaMontagne on State St from 1972 to 1975. I mostly did dishwasher and built-ins installations for Roy, as well as some special installations (washers in the kitchens, water heaters, gas lines....). I think the builder was DelZotto, in Harmon Estates, off Route 50 in Burnt Hills......SteveD

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Post# 26245-2/3/2003-17:54 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: 1910 CENTRAL VAC (OR THE REMAINS OF SAME)
MESSAGE: Check out the section called "Steam Boiler Replacement Pictorial" this HVAC company found a house that had a central vac system circa 1910!
LINK: http://www.appelheat.com/jobs/jobs.html

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Post# 26246-2/3/2003-19:36 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: 1910 CENTRAL VAC (OR THE REMAINS OF SAME) (Very interesting website.)
MESSAGE: That was very interesting.
I love heating devices.
I can't get over the shape of some of the pictures that they posted. Shows how some houses catch fire.
FLAMES ROLLING OUT? I WONDER IF THAT IS NORMAL?
The central vac thing was very interesting.
Brent

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Post# 26247-2/3/2003-19:49 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1910 CENTRAL VAC (OR THE REMAINS OF SAME) (Very interesting website.)
MESSAGE: A few years ago I looked at a house in Avondale Estates that had one of the Octopus Gravity Furnaces. The realestate agent was quick to point out why I would be smart to change it. She could not understand that I wanted to keep it. It was the best part of the house!!

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Post# 26248-2/3/2003-22:43 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Living Better Electrically With GE
MESSAGE: I've been playing with the 1974 GE Dispensall washer I found at a sale a while ago and posted some pics of it in action. In the pictures you can see how the air-controlled valve controls the direction of the Filter-Flo stream. When the Dispensall unit is in place under the lid, the water streams are directed into either the detergent or fabric softener dispensers flushing their contents into the tub.
LINK: http://edit.photos.yahoo.com/edit/gansky1/fupload_parent?.dir=/General+Electric&.src=ph&.action=upload&.view=t&.vty=p&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/General%2bElectric%26.src=ph%26.view=t

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Post# 26249-2/3/2003-22:49 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1910 CENTRAL VAC (OR THE REMAINS OF SAME)
MESSAGE: This is very cool - what a marvel that must have been in 1918 to have an electric central vacuum system.

The pictures of the heating systems are interesting too, I had friends with an oil fired gravity furnace in their duplex rental. What a waste of fuel!

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Post# 26250-2/3/2003-23:19 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (1956 Maytag dryer)
MESSAGE: Gas dryers -- including Maytags -- that had standing pilot lights had a door on lower front of the dryer so you could gain access to the pilot. I'm guessing that the "drawer" is actually the lint filter.

Philco, Norge, and Norge-made (Montgomery) Ward's Signiture dryers had lint filters that were located near the floor. The Sept. 1966 issue of Consumer Reports objected to this location, calling it "inconvenient". The Sept. 1969 issue of Consumer Reports offered the following comment below a pic of the bottom rated Philco: "Philco's filter, close to the floor and masked by a panel may tempt you to neglect your filter-cleaning chores."

In the late 70's, one of my aunts was given a Norge Time Line dryer from the estate of a neighbor. She used it for several months, before I told her about the filter. This was the first dryer she ever owned (at the time she was still using a Maytag wringer washer) and she didn't know that there was a filter or that she had to clean it. She wasn't given the instruction booklet. The filter was easy to miss, both because its location near the floor and because you had to lower a panel to gain access to it. I'm convinced that the fact that the filter wasn't cleaned (until I came along) contributed to its untimely demise shortly thereafter. :-( (BTW, this machine HAD to be the noisiest dryer I've ever heard -- even after the filter was cleaned. It was in the basement and you could hear it no matter where you were in my aunt's house.)


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Post# 26251-2/3/2003-23:22 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Dishwashers proper email add. (Ebay is a goldmine!)
MESSAGE: Here is a beautiful early GE top loading dishwasher in Mass. Someone should save this!!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2306117949&category=20715

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Post# 26252-2/4/2003-02:17 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Living Better Electrically With GE
MESSAGE: Suds-return system, LOL!!

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Post# 26253-2/4/2003-05:59 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Living Better Electrically With GE (Looked Like Fun!)
MESSAGE: Greg,
Looked like you very having a stress relieving time there with your GE. It was so cool to see how the water was diverted for each of the dispensers that were in the lid. I wondered how it worked, and know with your teaching us, I know. Thanks
Why in the world did they throw out the dispenser part? It is so obvious that they took good care of the machine. I wonder what was the deal?
I loved the "suds return". When my mom had GE Washers, I always remembered that little hole in the agitator when it was filling for the rinse, and usually it did have suds coming out.
Have you done any type of test to see the washing ability of that straight agitator? I am sure that you have other GE agitator's somewhere there. Have you put one of them on?
Thanks for the pictures.
Brent

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Post# 26254-2/4/2003-06:06 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Dishwashers proper email add. (Ebay is a goldmine! )
MESSAGE: That is such a cool dishwasher!
Any guess of the exact year?
I remember seeing one like this in a "Post" magazine. It was also showing the cabinets. Seemed like they were all made by GE. "GE Kitchens" or something like that. I remember also that they had the square electric hot water tank also built into the kitchen. It was hard to tell the dishwasher from the hot water tank. Then I thought the front handle on the dishwasher would give it away. Also the way the cabinet tops were shaped, it looked like a seamless top from the actual cabinet top, to the dishwasher top to the hot water tank top. I was going to buy the magazine, but he wanted $15. Nah.
Anyway, I think the Post magazine was like 1946 or something.
Thanks for the link.
Brent

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Post# 26255-2/4/2003-06:21 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (1956 Maytag dryer(noisy Norge))
MESSAGE: Hi Mike,

I found my '54 Norge Time Line Dryer on the side of the road, amazingly, it works great, and is ironically very, very quiet. Maybe the lack of cleaning the filter contributed to the noise you heard on yours. Do you still have it ? Take care... -GregM

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Post# 26256-2/4/2003-08:42 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Living Better Electrically With GE (Pictures)
MESSAGE: Greg,

I can't view the pictures. It looks like your link was to edit. It will not allow me to see them.

Steve1-18

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Post# 26257-2/4/2003-09:13 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Where is he?
MESSAGE: Where is Unimatic1140? I haven't heard from him in a while.

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Post# 26258-2/4/2003-09:31 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Living Better Electrically With GE (Pictures)
MESSAGE: Ditto!!! And the funny thing is that the gold bar across the top says ERREUR. Greg, are you using Canadian Yahoo?

-ph

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Post# 26259-2/4/2003-10:18 ||| Jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Ironrite #95
MESSAGE: In one of my hurried moments, I closed the lid to the Ironrite incorrectly and broke the lamp shade. Do anyone of you have an extra sitting around that I could buy from you? It is model #95, I believe the only one with the lamp. Let me know! Thanks, Don

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Post# 26260-2/4/2003-11:34 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Living Better Electrically With GE (Pictures)
MESSAGE: It worked for me.

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Post# 26261-2/4/2003-12:30 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (1956 Maytag dryer(noisy Norge))
MESSAGE: Greg,
Congrats on the curb-side treasure!!
I am also a fan of Norge laundry appliances. The extra noise is worth the speedier drying time due to the oversized blower. I have had good luck with 2 newer versions of this dryer and have even put off buying a newer Whirlpool Duet because of it. the only thing I wish I could change was perhaps adding a stainless steel interior like on the Amana's.
-Alex

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Post# 26262-2/4/2003-12:32 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: indexing wash tub an old idea?
MESSAGE: Did any of the older washer designs incoporate an indexing wash tub like a new Frigidaire I bought for my mom?
-Alex

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Post# 26263-2/4/2003-16:53 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Living Better Electrically With GE (Pictures)
MESSAGE: Yahoo was acting very strange last night, it took forever to upload and then I couldn't find them for a while. Anyway - here's the correct link now:
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/General+Electric&.src=ph&.dnm=GE+Dispensall+Clean+and+Ready.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/General%2bElectric%26.src=ph%26.view=t

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Post# 26264-2/4/2003-16:54 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Living Better Electrically With GE (Pictures)
MESSAGE: I got that several times trying to upload the pics last night!

ITEMNOTFOUND in huge red letters too...

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Post# 26265-2/4/2003-17:37 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (1956 Maytag dryer(noisy Norge))
MESSAGE: Hi Greg,

Unfortunately, the Norge was my aunt's. She lives near Pittsburgh or about 5 hours or so from where I live in New Jersey. I don't get to visit as often as I like and it disappeared between visits. :-( (It happened when she decided to replace her Maytag wringer with a Kenmore automatic in the late 70's.) I would have given just about any thing to be able to save it. I'm glad that you were able to save the one you found. :-) Congrats. What a wonderful find! Those Time Lines (both washers and dryers) are among my all time favorite machines!

Take care,

Mike



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Post# 26266-2/4/2003-18:30 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Living Better Electrically With GE (Pictures)
MESSAGE: I thought I was having problem after I changed my briefcase folders on Yahoo. Thank goodness it's not only me.

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Post# 26267-2/4/2003-18:50 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Living Better Electrically With GE (Pictures)
MESSAGE: WOW!!! That is a beautiful set! I always wondered how that dispensall system worked. When do we get the video???Mark

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Post# 26268-2/4/2003-19:46 ||| Mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: Dishwashers Vintage
MESSAGE: I was looking for something out of the ordinary, but this motorized built in drawer sounds wild. Hmmm I thought a KitchenAid split top rack, top loader was the best. Hmmmm So much info , Just can not imagine what Im about to learn , Thanks Guys Michael

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Post# 26269-2/4/2003-20:44 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (1956 Maytag dryer(noisy Norge))
MESSAGE: thanks Alex, I feel very lucky to have come across this great vintage machine and even luckier that the darn thing works perfectly............

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Post# 26270-2/4/2003-20:46 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (1956 Maytag dryer(noisy Norge)thnx)
MESSAGE: thanks Mike ! .... I love the old Time Line Machines myself, I would love to find the matching washer, but who knows, that may be a tough call, whereas the machine is fifty years old...thanks for your comments............best regards, gregm

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Post# 26271-2/4/2003-21:49 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Living Better Electrically With GE (Pictures)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the new link Greg, I tried the other one this morning and wasn't able to get in either. This one worked fine. Boy I love the looks of that GE, the lighted console is beautiful. Somewhere we just have to find the missing part for that dispenseal system. A beautiful set with that matching dryer even if it is gold!! Terry

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Post# 26272-2/4/2003-23:45 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Living Better Electrically With GE (Pictures)
MESSAGE: Greg, Wow THAT diverter. I wouldn't believe it unles I saw it.

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Post# 26273-2/5/2003-02:40 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Living Better Electrically With GE (Pictures)
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg for those pictures, it looks a real fun machine to play with. I had another look at the pictures you took before too. I wondered why they used a toggle switch for the wash temperature and a control for the extra rinse. I have seen that more often on GE machines and wondered why they did arrange the control panel that way. It doesn't seem very logical to me. The wash temperature and the water level are the controls you would use most anyway, isn't it? And they had to make a toggle switch with three positions for this arrangement. Anyone any idea why they did it this way?

Louis

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Post# 26274-2/5/2003-05:34 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (1956 Maytag dryer(noisy Norge)thnx)
MESSAGE: I must say Greg that that was such a great find - any of the Norge time line machines are so rare. You know, I only remember seeing two of them in my life. I too would give anything for one of the washers - probably my favorite of all. Even better was the fact that it was in good cosmetic shape and worked. That is one to preserve!! Question on the dryer, though. Was that dryer considered to have an oversize fan for faster, lower temp drying?? Does it do the "4 way drying"? And I seem to remember a neighbor's Norge dryer that had a narrower exhaust than the traditional size we know today - was that my imagination??





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Post# 26275-2/5/2003-05:52 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Does Anyone Know Who Junk Yard Guy Is? (dishwashers)
MESSAGE: hey, did you get that KitchenAid (that steel beauty) I lost your email adress in the computer switch over. Hope you got it. Michael

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Post# 26276-2/5/2003-07:13 ||| cycla-fabric (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: Kitchen Aid Dishwasher on Ebay for Sale
MESSAGE: Found this little gem on Ebay, looks well taken care of, and it needs a new home!!!!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=20715&item=2306452528&rd=1

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Post# 26277-2/5/2003-07:17 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Living Better Electrically With GE (Pictures)
MESSAGE: I really need to do some 'mulitmedia' work soon, I have several things that would be fun to post.

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Post# 26278-2/5/2003-07:20 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Living Better Electrically With GE (Pictures)
MESSAGE: Thanks Terry - they are very beautiful, I love playing with the washer - reminds me of the GE we had growing up, the sounds it makes are very familiar and comforting, like the Kenmores for Jason!

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Post# 26279-2/5/2003-07:27 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Living Better Electrically With GE (Pictures)
MESSAGE: GE used toggle type switches for many years - not sure why though, perhaps they thought they were easier to set and read at a glance. Their Hotpoint line in the 70's (after they were converted to GE clones) always used dial type switches.

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Post# 26280-2/5/2003-07:33 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Kitchen Aid Dishwasher on Ebay for Sale
MESSAGE: Oooh, that is nice - and a great price too. I love this style of KA dishwashers - so industrial and solid looking. The wash arm & support are made of cast iron spraying 40 gallons of water per minute!

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Post# 26281-2/5/2003-09:47 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: GE AMERICANA DISPENSER
MESSAGE: Ganski,
Can you help me understand how it works? I'm not clear on how the water flow is diverted to the appropriate dispenser. Did all the water come out of the filter flow return? Thanks

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Post# 26282-2/5/2003-10:00 ||| dalangdon (Seattle, WA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kitchen Aid Dishwasher on Ebay for Sale
MESSAGE: What looks to be that very same dishwasher, but in Sunny Yellow, is listed in the "for sale" section here on classicappliances.com

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Post# 26283-2/5/2003-16:04 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GE AMERICANA DISPENSER
MESSAGE: All the information you want and more! I've attached a link to the GE photo album with pages I've scanned from the GE Technical Data manual for the Dispensall unit. It should be easier to understand this way as there are some good illustrations of the water flow (yes, all from the filter-flo) through the dispensing tray.

Enjoy! Greg
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/General+Electric&.dnm=Dispensall+Tech+Data+1.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t

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Post# 26284-2/5/2003-16:10 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Kitchen Aid Dishwasher on Ebay for Sale
MESSAGE: Hi Dan -

Here is a link to the pictures of the dishwasher and GE rangetop and oven (all in sunny yellow) that the owner has for sale in our classified section. I'm sure they won't mind if people shop - they are very beautiful.

All the appliances look like they are in great condition - I wish I were closer and didn't have to ship them! This is one of my favorite KA dishwashers.
LINK: http://home.quixnet.net/~buffs/

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Post# 26285-2/5/2003-16:39 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Kitchen Aid Dishwasher on Ebay for Sale
MESSAGE: Has anyone ever worked with these dishwashers firsthand? I'm wondering how you load the upper rack. It does not appear to have any tines, but rather just a flat surface. How do you stand things up? It is very neat though, both the sunny yellow and SS one.

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Post# 26286-2/5/2003-17:07 ||| may63 (Saint Paul, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: Kitchen Aid Dishwasher on Ebay for Sale
MESSAGE: Ah memories...we had this dishwasher as I was growing up. Ours was some sort of metallic brown color. We'd load cups and glasses along the sides of the top rack, and bowls flat down along the sides facing in. Fill up the bottom rack with everything else, put the detergent in the little metal cup, and have Jet Dry solid rinse aid hooked to the top rack. (I rejoiced the first time we got a dishwasher with an automatic rinse aid dispenser.)

Push the start lever down, the timer would move and the dishwasher would fill with water without the pump running. I think it was a timed fill. I think it couldn't overfill since it was a gravity drained dishwasher with an open drain in the corner of the tub. Then, the pregnant pause, and CRASH!!! The powerful pump and the heavy duty cast iron wash arm would send everything flying! We always had overturned plastic bowls. The drying cycle had a heated blower and I always found the sound of that motor to be comforting.

It was a fun dishwasher, but my dad was always replacing the starter for the pump motor and the solenoid for the drain. I remember him replacing the gasket around the door as well.


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Post# 26287-2/5/2003-17:22 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Kitchen Aid Dishwasher on Ebay for Sale
MESSAGE: Thanks for sharing your thoughts! With your description, I can now visualize the loading of the top rack. Did you grow up here in the twin cities?

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Post# 26288-2/5/2003-17:39 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: YYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MESSAGE: I am most likely to get an older Whirlpool Thin Twin!!!!!!!!I am soooooo happy! Wait! There is more, I have plumbing in my room, so guess where it is going! My dad willdrill a hole in the wall for the dryer vent, so no worries there! Does anyone know info on crater and freighters? Will they pick-up for you then ship it to you? Thanks a bunch!

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Post# 26289-2/5/2003-17:46 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: YYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MESSAGE: Jamie, is a thin twin a stacked w/d unit?

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Post# 26290-2/5/2003-17:50 ||| may63 (Saint Paul, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: Kitchen Aid Dishwasher on Ebay for Sale
MESSAGE: Northfield...land of cows, colleges and contentment...

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Post# 26291-2/5/2003-17:54 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: GE AMERICANA DISPENSER
MESSAGE: Fab-u-lous!

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Post# 26292-2/5/2003-18:11 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: GE AMERICANA DISPENSER
MESSAGE: Wow, I did not realize the Dispensall was around already in 1973. I thought that was a late 1970s thing. Interesting reading!

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Post# 26293-2/5/2003-18:25 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: Maytag Combo Tech Spec Book
MESSAGE: Hey,
This auction is over, but it was the above mentioned on eBay.
Just wondering if the winner is a club member?
That book is very rare. I am sure as rare as the machine itself.
Brent
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2305361519

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Post# 26294-2/5/2003-19:49 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Australia Day Jan 26/27
MESSAGE: Hey Gizmo, speaking of councillors, have you been watching Grass Roots on Channel 2?

Its a real hoot! Ill be in the sandbox.

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Post# 26295-2/5/2003-19:53 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Australia Day Jan 26/27
MESSAGE: Thanx Peter!

I have just returned from holidays down the South Coast of NSW, Beautiful! Beaches so much nicer and cleaner than in Sydney.

I also used my friends mothers NEC Air bubble washing machine. For my experiecnes see the sandbox...

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Post# 26296-2/5/2003-20:34 ||| dalangdon (Seattle, WA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kitchen Aid Dishwasher on Ebay for Sale (Estate Sale GE's)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the link to the pics. There was an estate sale at a beautiful Mid-Century Modern house here in Seattle a few months back. They had the original GE wall kitchen (I guess that would be the term - one unit with cooktop, sink, dishwasher and oven)all in Sunny Yellow, with stainless steel top, plus a separate sunny yellow wall oven just like the one in the pic. The house is in a very ritzy neighborhood by Lake Washington, and I keep driving by to see if the new owners have put all the kitchen stuff out on the curb, but so far, it looks like they haven't. Can we dare hope that a person who appreciates vintage appliances bought the house?

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Post# 26297-2/5/2003-20:57 ||| laundromat (florida)
SUBJECT: old Frigidaire Jet Action washer and old easy washer dryer repair manual
MESSAGE: on ebay there is a FRIGIDAIRE Jet Action Custom Deluxe washer in avacado green #2306546524 and an Easy combomatic washer dryer repair manual item #3206107310

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Post# 26298-2/5/2003-21:33 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (Norge 4 way??)
MESSAGE: thank you, yes, I love the Norge Time Line Dryer, does a great job, not sure on the "oversize fan" thing because mine has just a heat and no heat setting, and what do you mean by "4-way" drying? and yes I do believe the exhaust is a bit smaller,narrower than most.........

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Post# 26299-2/5/2003-21:38 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kitchen Aid Dishwasher on Ebay for Sale (40 GPM??)
MESSAGE: How do you know that Greg ?? (smiling-grinning)

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Post# 26300-2/5/2003-21:42 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kitchen Aid Dishwasher on Ebay for Sale (loading)
MESSAGE: Hi Scott, You actually need to lower the bottom rack accordingly so that the spray can get in between plates, etc. TO the top rack and you can load glasses upside down of course next to each other. The spray is quite powerful and even though no upper arm, providing that you did not block the spray in the lower rack it did a very good job.......-GregM

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Post# 26301-2/5/2003-21:48 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: YYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MESSAGE: Yes, It is a stacking unit.

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Post# 26302-2/5/2003-21:54 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Living Better Electrically With GE (Pictures)
MESSAGE: I know just what you mean Greg, having grown up with two GE's I too love the sound they make. I will always remember walking into Robert's basement that first time and seeing and hearing his I believe 1951 GE, it was such a rush.

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Post# 26303-2/5/2003-21:58 ||| soharra (Huntsville, Alabama)
SUBJECT: RE: Kitchen Aid Dishwasher on Ebay for Sale (loading)
MESSAGE: Scott,

I have a slightly newer KA DW that is similar to the stainless steel one on eBay. In mine, all the upper rack tines are attached to the rack with fittings that enable the user to lay the tines flat for large objects (eg. mixing bowles, sauce pans, etc.) or to flip them up-right for glasses and coffee cups, and ceral bowls.

The 50's plastic "hinges" in mine have all broken with time, so I have had to resort to pandex strips to keep the tines in place. In looking at the photo, it looks like the tines with this KA (and, of course the hinges) are missing. Might be hard to find an exact match of color, unless someone has a junk machine for parts. If you decide to buy, let me know and I'll email photos of how I fixed the tines in my KA (it works just like new)!

Shawn

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Post# 26304-2/5/2003-22:04 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Kitchen Aid Dishwasher on Ebay for Sale (loading)
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg and Shawn for the helpful info! They are very cool machines arent they!

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Post# 26305-2/5/2003-23:19 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Kitchen Aid Dishwasher on Ebay for Sale
MESSAGE: What a hunk of a dishwasher!!!!!

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Post# 26306-2/5/2003-23:31 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Kitchen Aid Dishwasher on Ebay for Sale (40 GPM??)
MESSAGE: Gregm, those specs of 40 gallons/minute & cast iron are almost legendary.

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Post# 26307-2/5/2003-23:35 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (Norge 4 way??)
MESSAGE: 4-way drying mean heat with tumble, no heat with tumble, heat without tumbling (using a drying rack) and no heat without tumbling.

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Post# 26308-2/6/2003-00:31 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Kitchen Aid Dishwasher on Ebay for Sale (40 GPM??)
MESSAGE: John and Tom have a few of those in the museum. Didn't you see them?

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Post# 26309-2/6/2003-05:59 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (Norge 4 way??)
MESSAGE: And didn't some early 60's Norge dryers have a hair drying attachment also???

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Post# 26310-2/6/2003-06:41 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Kitchen Aid Dishwasher on Ebay for Sale (40 GPM??)
MESSAGE: Jason, of course I did. But I'm wondering if GregM did.

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Post# 26311-2/6/2003-06:43 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of eBay (Norge 4 way??)
MESSAGE: Yes they did Anthony. I remember our 1964 dryer owner's manual had a picture of a lady sitting in front of the dryer with the hair dryer and bonnet on.

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Post# 26312-2/6/2003-08:16 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: Thought of the day
MESSAGE: I got this in an email this morning.

Steve1-18

Don't try to pick up a woman at the laundromat.

If she can't afford her own washing machine, then she will never be able to support you!



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Post# 26313-2/6/2003-09:13 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: 1-18!
MESSAGE: Its on ebay, its avcado, enjoy.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=20714&item=2306546524&rd=1

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Post# 26314-2/6/2003-12:25 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Ebay
MESSAGE: Things I'd like to see this on ebay

"Kenmore 800 washer/dryer, works, New Orleans area"

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Post# 26315-2/6/2003-13:38 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE AMERICANA DISPENSER
MESSAGE: Greg, thanks for the info, big help! I'm guessing that opening the lid (washer) after the dispenser was loaded might not be a good thing to do (?) Too bad the dispenser lid wasn't clear to watch the action!

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Post# 26316-2/6/2003-13:49 ||| Gewasherguy (Arkansas)
SUBJECT: GE Washers
MESSAGE: Hey! Just happened upon this website and absolutely LOVE IT! I have really enjoyed looking around and more so finding information on old GE washers. My mother owned GE appliances through the 1970's, etc as I was growing up. I love her GE Washers. I know she had two at least but only really remember one. She had another in the early 1990's before the big change over. They both were good washers and only wish they still made them with the filter flo, etc. They both were mid range washers with plenty of features. If anyone else out there knows of links, pictures, website's, animated pics, of the GE machines please let me know either here or email me. Thanks again and again..a great site.

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Post# 26317-2/6/2003-14:04 ||| cycla-fabric (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: Mini Basket up for Grabs
MESSAGE: A GE Mini basket up for grabs on Ebay if anyone is interested.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2306545634&category=20619

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Post# 26318-2/6/2003-14:25 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: Bauknecht and Bell ITT dishwasher brochures (1970s)
MESSAGE: My Belgian friend Pol sent me some scans of some 1970's dishwasher brochures. A total of three, one German Bauknecht brochure, a Dutch one and a Dutch Bell ITT brochure. I wondered if Bell ITT was an American company. Anyone information about this company? I thought this was a telephone company. I also remember my first transistor radio being an ITT. But I didn't know about the dishwashers.

Louis
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/lst?.dir=/1970s+dishwashers&.view=t

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Post# 26319-2/6/2003-15:11 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: GE Appliance Park Anniversary milestone
MESSAGE: General Electric's Appliance Park in Louisville, Kentucky celebrates its 50th Anniversary today.

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Post# 26320-2/6/2003-16:19 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Appliance Park Anniversary milestone
MESSAGE: I sent a letter there asking for for some GE laundry literature, around 32 years ago!  Got a lovely package of spec sheets for all the models at that time. Wish I still had it.

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Post# 26321-2/6/2003-20:08 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Appliance Park Anniversary milestone
MESSAGE: Aw "GE" Leslie, thanks for letting us know. GE has brought us some nice innovations and ideas. Like the wall refridgerator, the P-7 self-cleaning oven, mini-basket, filter-flo, potScrubbers. After all these years, I'm still wondering how appliances park. I guess I must ask a mobile maid sometime.

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Post# 26322-2/6/2003-23:24 ||| soharra (Huntsville, Alabama)
SUBJECT: Speed Queen Solid Tub Washer on eBay
MESSAGE: Gang,

Caught this on eBay tonight before bedtime. BID...BID...BID...!

Shawn
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2306585372&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1

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Post# 26323-2/6/2003-23:26 ||| soharra (Huntsville, Alabama)
SUBJECT: Speed Queen Solid Tub on eBay
MESSAGE: Gang:

Saw this on eBay before bed time....BID...BID...BID...!

Shawn
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2306585372&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1

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Post# 26324-2/6/2003-23:29 ||| soharra (Huntsville, Alabama)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Appliance Park Anniversary milestone (How Appliances Park???)
MESSAGE: Right in front of the kitchen sink or the H/C water connections! That is how they park!

Shawn

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Post# 26325-2/7/2003-05:52 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Washers (Welcome GEwasherguy!!)
MESSAGE: Glad you found us--- as we say---'we are everywhere,and it all comes out in the wash!".

Keep your eye on ebay there is always lots of GE stuff there. Have you started a collection yet? Post some pix over at Yahoo photos.
Cheers jon/jetcone

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Post# 26326-2/7/2003-06:15 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: Is anyone BKS1770 on ebay?
MESSAGE: If not then I am going for the F parts manual
jet

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Post# 26327-2/7/2003-06:39 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Speed Queen Solid Tub Washer on eBay (Solid or perf tub)
MESSAGE: Too bad there is no pic of the tub. If there was, I believe we'd see that the tub is perforated. This machine looks to be a bottom-of-the-line model from the 80's.

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Post# 26328-2/7/2003-06:41 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: Old Thor parts manual
MESSAGE: Anyone out there into Thor?

take apeek

LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2707943275&category=616

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Post# 26329-2/7/2003-07:23 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Speed Queen Solid Tub Washer on eBay (Solid or perf tub)
MESSAGE: Yup, it's a perforated tub model - too bad, but it probably still had a recirculating filter.

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Post# 26330-2/7/2003-07:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Old Thor parts manual
MESSAGE: Thor came out with an automatic washer in 1954 so that probably won't be in this manual, but the Automagic will be!

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Post# 26331-2/7/2003-07:27 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Washers
MESSAGE: Welcome! Check out the "member links" section for pictures, etc. Several members have some neat GE appliances - enjoy!

Greg

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Post# 26332-2/7/2003-07:31 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GE AMERICANA DISPENSER
MESSAGE: The instructions say to wait 30 seconds after filling the dispenser before opening the lid.

All washers should have clear lids!! ;-)

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Post# 26333-2/7/2003-08:13 ||| gewasherguy (Arkansas)
SUBJECT: GE Washers--Thanks!
MESSAGE: Thanks for the welcome and the information about pics, etc. I have really enjoyed catching all of them so far. To answer the below question about a collection..No...I have not collected but that is always a possibility. Again, thanks and look forward to catching all the pics.

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Post# 26334-2/7/2003-10:49 ||| filekar1 (italy)
SUBJECT: baukneckt vs Constructa washer
MESSAGE: HI Foraloysius is very interesting your collection of old Bauknecht brochure, dishwasher and laundry too, but when I see the washer brochure I found some interesting things.
I suppose that Constructa and Bauknecht was the same brandt because my grandmother's Constructa was like B. commercial but it was only a 5 kg washer, bolted down.
I remember another thing; because it was a kockautomat it had two drain hose one to drain water and one to drain condensed steam when boiling the withes. In Brochure there is a photo called "using it as a portable" and B had two hoses in the sink. These were the two hoses that had C. too, or it was a suds return sistem?
I remember that my aunt, a sister of my granmother, had a washer that have an automatic suds return it was an INDESIT washer, built in Italy in the middle of the '60, a front loader with an inside suds return sistem (a little 2° tub) known as "vasca di recupero" and it looked like B in this photo. BYE

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Post# 26335-2/7/2003-13:06 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: baukneckt vs Constructa washer
MESSAGE: I'm sorry, but I don't know if there was a connection between Bauknecht and Constructa in the past. I don't know anything about the two hoses either. I never paid attention to the hoses when I was young, I can't remember if there were one or two drain hoses on the Constructa's I know from my youth.

A frontloader with a sudsreturn, that sounds interesting, but I never saw one when I was young.

Do you have any pictures of the machines you are talking about? Would be nice to see some older Italian machines.

Louis

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Post# 26336-2/7/2003-13:06 ||| earthling177 (Boston, MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Bauknecht and Bell ITT dishwasher brochures (1970s)
MESSAGE: Thanks Louis for posting the pictures. I wondered for years about the spray system in Bauknecht dishwashers. I don't recall ever seeing one in person, and all the pictures in the advertisements made it hard to see if it used a tower or a spray arm for the top rack. Now I know!

The countertop dishwasher looks very interesting too, with what seems to be a rotorack and, to top it off, it uses a reverse loading system, just like old Maytags: glasses and small dishes on the lower rack and plates and larger stuff on the top rack. For a while I knew people who lived in old apartment buildings here in US that had no place to fit a dishwasher and were looking for countertop models, but they couldn't find any. Now they seem to be getting easier to find.

Cheers,
-- Paulo.

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Post# 26337-2/7/2003-14:29 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Is anyone BKS1770 on ebay?
MESSAGE: Hi Jon,

The person bks1770 is me. Maybe I should change my name on Ebay so we know who is bidding on what.

Talk soon.

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Post# 26338-2/7/2003-14:59 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: POD
MESSAGE: POD talks about the sprinkler system in the dryer. I recall our 57 Pink beauty came with an aluminium tube like goody that was perforated. I remember being told that it function was to sprinkle. What I don't get is how? If you just put in the drum it would bounce around. I don't recall a bracket or mounting system (of course I was younger then!). I do recall the cool air freshener that worked off the paddle switch on the "dash". Can anyone help with the workings of the sprinkler?

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Post# 26339-2/7/2003-18:41 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Bauknecht and Bell ITT dishwasher brochures (1970s) (Bauknecht Rotorack)
MESSAGE: Hey Paulo,

Isn't that Bauknecht rototop a cool dishwasher? I wish I would come across one, would be real fun to have one, but I never saw in the stores back then, so I think it will be hard to find one.

I can't remember any European dishwasher having a tower. All the dishwashers in the time I grew up (60's and 70's) had two spray arms as far as I can recall.

Louis

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Post# 26340-2/7/2003-23:36 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: pssst check this out =)
MESSAGE: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2306196610&category=20714

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Post# 26341-2/7/2003-23:54 ||| dalangdon (Seattle, WA)
SUBJECT: Flairs in the news!
MESSAGE: Once again, the Frigidaire Flair comes to the rescue! Seriously, the design seems to be made for both small kitchens and our increasingly elderly population. Wouldn't it be great to see an updated version of this classic design?
LINK: http://www.courier-journal.com/localnews/2003/01/29iweek/in012903s357302.htm

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Post# 26342-2/8/2003-01:17 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Flairs in the news!
MESSAGE: That's great! Thanks for sharing! I would love to see it make a comeback, as with just about anything GM Frigidaire! Having watched Ebay and etc there seems to be quite a number of the originals that have survived, which I also think is great.

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Post# 26343-2/8/2003-01:18 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: pssst check this out =)
MESSAGE: Very interesting! Does anyone know if that particular model Hotpoint was ever actually sold to the public? It looks just like the early GE models.

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Post# 26344-2/8/2003-09:20 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Flairs in the news! (Go FLair!!)
MESSAGE: What a neat article,I may even try her recepies! It just goes to show they don't build 'em like they used too!
Can't wait for Bruce to get his Flair up and running!
jet

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Post# 26345-2/8/2003-11:35 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Flairs in the news! (Go FLair!!)
MESSAGE: Jon, I ad the same thought. I downloaded the page so I could asave the recipes LOL. I agree with previous comments, wish this concept would resurrect itself.

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Post# 26346-2/8/2003-11:37 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: POD 02/08/03
MESSAGE: The Bendix ad. Sad thing, none, if very few, of the fabrics worn by the two characters in the ad could be washed in the very same machine they are appearing with.

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Post# 26347-2/8/2003-11:56 ||| joelt (wisconsin)
SUBJECT: refrigerators
MESSAGE: i have a monitor top fridge and another 40's fridge that i want to sell.both are still in use but the m.t. is out of sulfer dioxide.who's interested?

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Post# 26348-2/8/2003-12:32 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 02/08/03
MESSAGE: True, but within less than two years, she'll be out of that dress and into coveralls doing her part for the war effort so the Bendix will have been a good investment anyway!

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Post# 26349-2/8/2003-12:34 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Women Love Their Laundry Rooms
MESSAGE: This article has some interesting "laundry facts" with it...
LINK: http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_np=0&u_pg=57&u_sid=638799

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Post# 26350-2/8/2003-12:40 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Flairs in the news!
MESSAGE: It would be interesting to find some stats on the numbers of these ranges produced. They do seem to last - I wish more of the laundry appliances had too!



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Post# 26351-2/8/2003-16:51 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: New Dishwasher
MESSAGE: Saw this in a magazine today. Kitchen Aid's latest dishwasher.

Also read that Dacor is coming out with a 30 inch dishwasher with capacity for 22 place settings. Could not find any information on the internet site about it.

Steve1-18
LINK: http://www.kitchenaid.com/briva/briva.htmls

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Post# 26352-2/8/2003-19:20 ||| jonob (New Zealand)
SUBJECT: Additions to the Museum
MESSAGE: Hi All. Just a little question.........are other machines, ie Bendix and other models going to be added to the museum sometime soon? Also will any more machines such as the different models of Bendix be added to the video section which shows the appliances operating during different parts of the cycle.
This web site is so excellent!!!!! I thought I was the only one who was fascinated by these machines.

Cheers and thanks
Jon

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Post# 26353-2/8/2003-19:29 ||| washerlover (northern California)
SUBJECT: RE: Additions to the Museum
MESSAGE: Hi Jon,

I'm new to this site as well. I had no idea there was so much interest in this stuff! I thought I was all alone. Happy to see another newcomer like myself.

I have the same question, are more additions to the museum in the works? I LOVE the Norge washing machine demo by cycle and complete with sound!

Hope to see more and enjoy reading the emails.

Thanks,

Todd

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Post# 26354-2/8/2003-20:06 ||| washerlover (northern California)
SUBJECT: Next Convention
MESSAGE: Hi,

I'm so excited about this website! I just viewed the video from last year's convention and want to be sure to attend the next one! Details, details, please!

Thanks and it's so good to know I'm not alone anymore...

Todd

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Post# 26355-2/8/2003-21:38 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: New Dishwasher (Dacor at Expo)
MESSAGE: I have seen the Dacor 30" dw at Home Depot Expo. It has a 3-arm upper and lower wash arm and -- get this -- SPIN TUBES along the sides where the wash arms can't reach. The 3-arm wash arms have tons of perforation so that nothing escapes the spray. It's a beast of a machine!

-ph

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Post# 26356-2/8/2003-22:20 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: New Dishwasher (Dacor at Expo)
MESSAGE: Hi Peter! I wonder who is making the machine for Dacor or if they are manufacturing the machine themselves. If they make their dishwashers like they make their ovens, then this is another machine to avoid. Their ovens are the pitts. We used them in the cooking school for about two weeks and finally had to get rid of them since we couldn't even get one of the three ovens to maintain temp! They looked good but that was about it. Mark

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Post# 26357-2/8/2003-22:31 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Women Love Their Laundry Rooms (I've always said it)
MESSAGE: My idea of a dream laundry room is a basement or garage complete with a couch, a washer collection, lava lamps, A home theater system including a HDTV, DVD, a cool speaker system and a Frigemore... yes, the laundry channel. Laundry usually takes 2 to 3 hours so why not be able to watch a movie or listen to music while sitting COMFORTABLY on a sofa or bean bag chair while watching a washing machine.

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Post# 26358-2/8/2003-23:21 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New Dishwasher (Dacor at Expo)
MESSAGE: Peter, when i saw the press release on appliance.com news section, I jsut about came unglued with all the details, but particularly the Spin Tubes along the sides to get those outlying areas.

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Post# 26359-2/8/2003-23:23 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Women Love Their Laundry Rooms (I've always said it)
MESSAGE: Uhm, who needs a movie or tv? You have the laundry channel in that room, no other watching is needed, unless it's a man!!!

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Post# 26360-2/9/2003-00:06 ||| jonob (New Zealand)
SUBJECT: Hi to Washerlover
MESSAGE: Hi Todd
great to see you in here as well. I have been thinking about travelling over to the states for the next convention myself. Might just see you there!!

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Post# 26361-2/9/2003-01:05 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: New Dishwasher (Dacor at Expo)
MESSAGE: is there any way I can get a peek at this machine with spray tubes on the sides Very interesting Michael

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Post# 26362-2/9/2003-01:49 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Bauknecht and Bell ITT dishwasher brochures (1970s) (Bauknecht Rotorack)
MESSAGE: sounds like a cool machine would not mind seeing a pic of that, Michael

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Post# 26363-2/9/2003-03:00 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: New Dishwasher (Dacor at Expo)
MESSAGE: And I thought we were supposed to talk about new appliances in the Sandbox.

Hiding for a slap somewhere in Europe.....

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Post# 26364-2/9/2003-03:04 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Bauknecht and Bell ITT dishwasher brochures (1970s) (Bauknecht Rotorack (picture))
MESSAGE: Here's the page of the brochure.

Louis
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/vwp?.dir=/1970s+dishwashers&.dnm=German+brochure-4.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t

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Post# 26365-2/9/2003-06:45 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: New Dishwasher (Dacor at Expo)
MESSAGE: I've observed a european brand called "SMEG" that offers a 30" fully-integrated machine. It accomplishes full spray coverage over those wider racks, through auxilliary rotating spray arms fitted to the end of the main wash arms for both the upper and lower rack.

Looks a lot like what GM Frigidaire employed, on the Imperial and Custom Imperial dishwashers from the mid-60's through WCI.

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Post# 26366-2/9/2003-08:57 ||| filekar1 (italy)
SUBJECT: 1958 AEG washer
MESSAGE: Hi boys look at this old beautiful AEG washer, 1958, all automatic, bolted down. GOOD.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3310308674&category=8419

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Post# 26367-2/9/2003-09:05 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Bauknecht and Bell ITT dishwasher brochures (1970s) (Bauknecht Rotorack (picture))
MESSAGE: Louis,
Was the "rotorack" water powered, like the early DM's or was the rack actually moved mechanically and the sprays stationary?

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Post# 26368-2/9/2003-09:09 ||| westie2 (arkansas)
SUBJECT: Maytag A106 repair
MESSAGE: My son has a A106 Maytag that doesn't spin right. Very slow. We have replaced the belts and still slow spining. Could it be the transmission? It still agitates and moves the clothes great. Any ideas.

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Post# 26369-2/9/2003-11:00 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Bauknecht and Bell ITT dishwasher brochures (1970s) (Bauknecht Rotorack (picture))
MESSAGE: Tom,

The sprayers in this dishwasher are stationary (one on top, one at the bottom and one on the side). I think the rack was moved by the water, but the brochure isn't very clear about it. I'm putting my money on the water powered system. Otherwise this machine would get extreme expensive, there are already two pumps in this one, one for circulation and one for draining (like most other European dishwashers).

Louis

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Post# 26370-2/9/2003-16:15 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: I am getting a Maytag A206! I have a question about Craters and Freighters though.
MESSAGE: When they ship it to you, do they carry it down to its spot of the cleaning process? We need to know urgently please! P.S. I am not getting the thin twin after all, I am getting something better!
Thanks a bunch!
-Jamie-

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Post# 26371-2/9/2003-19:36 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: WAIT...Don't Touch That Dial
MESSAGE: I just added one of my most favorite owners manuals to some of my most favorite automatic washers for the Feburary installment of the "Owners Manual of the Month".

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Post# 26372-2/9/2003-19:50 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: new photos
MESSAGE: this link should take you to the beginning of the latest twelve new photos that I have merged into my album containing the 60's Whirlpool Washer (help with date?), 1970 Frigidaire 1/18, 1956 Kenmore RapidDry, and 1945 GE Frig. Hope you like ! I will be adding the Westinghouse W&D that I won on ebay soon along with the 1949 GE Dishwasher and 1959 Maytag that I picked up today.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gregm978/vwp?.dir=/More+apps&.src=ph&.dnm=60%27s+WP+Wsh+cntrl.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gregm978/lst%3f%26.dir=/More%2bapps%26.src=ph%26.view=t

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Post# 26373-2/9/2003-20:04 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: new photos
MESSAGE: Great Pictures Greg, your collection is certainly is growing!! Congrats!

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Post# 26374-2/9/2003-20:10 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: I am getting a Maytag A206! I have a question about Craters and Freighters though.
MESSAGE: Jamie, the 3 times that I used them, they only drop off in front of your house. They don't bring it inside at all.

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Post# 26375-2/9/2003-20:10 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: new photos
MESSAGE: Interesting photos, Greg. And I can't believe that I saw the matching dryer to the Whirlpool washer just last Sunday at an open house. Unfortunately, I can't remember which house.......

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Post# 26376-2/9/2003-20:10 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Those DIRTY Rings
MESSAGE: I just posted two new commercials to the video library, one is for the '59 Norge Dispensomat Washer. Imagine a commercial in 2003 where the woman asks the technician to take his shirt off!

The other one should be more vivid in all of our memories (except for maybe you Jamie), it's Wisk and their famous Ring-Around-the-Collar commercials of the 1970's!

Thanks again Bruce for donating these commercials.

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Post# 26377-2/9/2003-20:11 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: WAIT...Don't Touch That Dial
MESSAGE: Hey Uni, we miss you! Glad to see you're alive and well.

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Post# 26378-2/9/2003-20:28 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: two new photo albums
MESSAGE: Hi all, although unrelated to old washers, I just added two new photo albums so noted as "my radios" and "small apps" for those of you who might be interested in old radios and old coffee pots, toasters, blenders, etc. .......... All that you see is in perfect working order. Hope you enjoy if interested !!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gregm978/lst?.dir=/&.src=ph&.view=t

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Post# 26379-2/9/2003-20:30 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: new photos (thanks Robert !)
MESSAGE: Thank you Robert, it is indeed growing since I joined last May, I am very lucky to have acquired what I have and have met some great people along the way.

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Post# 26380-2/9/2003-20:32 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: new photos (thnx)
MESSAGE: Thanks, its Anthony right?? wow, matching dryer, huh?? Do you know what year my washer is ?, I want to say 1964....... cannot find a date stamp anywhere. Glad you liked the pics :)

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Post# 26381-2/9/2003-20:46 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Those DIRTY Rings
MESSAGE: Great commercials! Thanks! Nice job, as usual.

Re: Your question about a 2003 commercial and a man being asked (by a woman) to take off his shirt. I not only can imagine it! I saw it a veriation of it. (I've seen it twice so I know that I'm not imagining it!) There's a commercial (I think that it's for Sears but don't hold me to that!) that features a woman loading a washing machine. Someone off camera is tossing clothes to her. At the end of the commercial, it becomes obvious that she's in the market for a large capacity washing machine and that she's in the store's appliance department. The commercial ends with her smiling and saying "thanks guys" to four embarrassed looking salesmen who are in their underwear!

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Post# 26382-2/9/2003-20:48 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: new photos
MESSAGE: What is the model number?  I believe 1964 would be an "LMA-" and I think your machine a little newer than that.

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Post# 26383-2/9/2003-20:49 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: new photos
MESSAGE: Wow Greg! Thanks for posting. Those pics are great. That's quite a collection you got there. Is that the Time Line dryer that you find on the side of the road? I'm soo jealous about that one. (And the Jetcone, and the push button turquoise GE, and the new Westy pair. I could go on and on!)

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Post# 26384-2/9/2003-20:51 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: WAIT...Don't Touch That Dial
MESSAGE: Wow! Thanks for posting that. Those 50's pulsators are among my favorite machines.

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Post# 26385-2/9/2003-21:07 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: two new photo albums (two new photo albums )
MESSAGE: Greg
What great Pics
Peter

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Post# 26386-2/9/2003-21:08 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Those DIRTY Rings (Video!)
MESSAGE: Robert,
What a great video
I hope you are doing well
Peter

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Post# 26387-2/9/2003-21:10 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: WAIT...Don't Touch That Dial
MESSAGE: Wonderful - and I was wondering how to set the controls for my WI-57 washer just today! Now I can start getting the most out of my Control Tower washing machine - thank you!

So clean, so quickly, so gently. Entirely without harmful rubbing!

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Post# 26388-2/9/2003-21:17 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: new photos (Pretty WP)
MESSAGE: Great pictures Greg - congrats on the WP washer too! I might still have the control panel to the WP washer I had, might be another step up from this one with the larger plastic side panel and even a Magic Filter light! If you like it, it's yours. Here's a pic of the machine I had - I think the whole top is still out in the storage shed.

Thanks for the pictures and enjoy your machines!

Greg N
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Collection+Photos&.src=ph&.dnm=RCA+WP+Washer.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Collection%2bPhotos%26.src=ph%26.view=t

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Post# 26389-2/9/2003-21:20 ||| pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag A106 repair (A-106)
MESSAGE: In my A-106, I found that the hose from the tank to the pump had a rusted and faulty clamp where water would trickle down and dampen the belts, which affected the spin performance. Also, since this washer is older, make sure that the spring on the motor "sled" is there and working to create proper tension, and that the motor can be moved horizontally. It may be stuck in a forward position.

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Post# 26390-2/9/2003-21:27 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: two new photo albums
MESSAGE: Awesome radios - you have a very impressive collection of radios. I love looking at them and imagining the news and fun shows people used to listen to on them - such beautiful pieces of history!

The small apps are wonderful too - do you use all of them? I use my Sunbeam automatic toaster and Osterizer all the time, truly the most perfect toast I've found yet.

Thanks for sharing with us!

Greg N

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Post# 26391-2/9/2003-21:28 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: new photos
MESSAGE: These are wonderful Greg! Of course I had to go back through and look at even those photos I've already seen! That Hotpoint range is just beautiful, and the 40" turquoise GE is one of my favorites of their designs. Everything looks just great, thanks for sharing!

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Post# 26392-2/9/2003-21:36 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: two new photo albums
MESSAGE: What a coincidence Greg, I too collect small appliances, and in my case, vacuums! I think there are a fair number of us that branch out into the various forms and sizes of appliances! Even if you don't drink coffee, I'm sure Jon has told you what great coffee the Coffeemasters make!

Two more great collections for you! Here is a picture of some of my small appliances, as they were displayed in my apartment. Some of the members saw my collection when we had the first convention here in Minneapolis.
LINK: http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL53/814581/1667532/19618112.jpg

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Post# 26393-2/9/2003-21:39 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Those DIRTY Rings
MESSAGE: Thanks for the new commercials - I was showing some of these to my friend Don to test his new cable modem Friday. He mentioned the one with kids dancing around the umbrella clothes dryer singing. He'll love this one!

Is it not proper to ask a technician to undress while working? I must have read that passage in Emily Post wrong then...

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Post# 26394-2/9/2003-21:46 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: new photos (WP wsh mod #)
MESSAGE: Its hard to make out, looks pretty scratched but from what I can tell I think this is the model # LPA5500WD ??


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Post# 26395-2/9/2003-21:48 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: new photos (thnks Mike)
MESSAGE: yes, thats the TIME LINE Norge in there that I found on the side of the road, needed repainting bad which i did. Mechanically fine, just plugged it in, amazingly works great.

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Post# 26396-2/9/2003-21:49 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: two new photo albums (two new photo albums (thnx))
MESSAGE: thanks alot Peter, glad you liked !! :) ...

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Post# 26397-2/9/2003-21:51 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: new photos (Pretty WP)
MESSAGE: I accept your offer Greg, how could I not..... glad you liked the pics........ I think this washer is somewhere between a 1964 and 1966.

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Post# 26398-2/9/2003-21:55 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: two new photo albums (all in use)
MESSAGE: I have about four of the radios plugged in, the rest on display, all have new tubes and have been cleaned/ restored/ and reconditioned, but not by me. I use the Sunbeam Auto down/up toaster quite a bit, that thing works awesome. I also use the Osterizer blender alot too. Everything else is usable and on display in my home. Thanks for your comments....

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Post# 26399-2/9/2003-22:00 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: two new photo albums (wow)
MESSAGE: Wow Scott, I love the multi-colored mixers all lined up. Very cool along with the rest of your stuff. If you go and look again at one of my console radio/phono shots you will see a 1940 Hoover upright to the left which works great, might I add; Thanks for your comments ...
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gregm978/vwp?.dir=/My+radios&.src=ph&.dnm=1950+Magnavox+closed.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gregm978/lst%3f%26.dir=/My%2bradios%26.src=ph%26.view=t

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Post# 26400-2/9/2003-22:10 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Those DIRTY Rings (thnx)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the commercials............

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Post# 26401-2/9/2003-22:24 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: Re: Frigidaire Promotional Item "Frigi-Bear"
MESSAGE: "Hello" Club members, I'm Steve "aka" SactoTeddyBear and I wanted to share with others of the Club that I have
2-Frigi-Bears, which I bought on E-Bay. I was told that they were used as a Promotional item around the 1960s or 1970s for that eras Frigidaire Refrigerator's and I was wondering if anyone might possibly know that exact or estimated year date that they used the Frigi-Bear for Advertising the Frigidaire Regrigerator's? I would really appreciate any and all info that someone might have about these Cute Bears.

For those of you Guys who haven't possibly seen my Profile as of yet, I'm listed as natrually "SactoTeddyBear" and I'm looking forward in possibly hearing from other Club Members, as well as the ones I have been in contact with already.

My E-Mail Address is : SactoTeddyBear@aol.com

Take care until later, please contact me and let me know how you are doing and what's happening where you live and maybe even some info about your Favorite Brands of Classic and Current Brands.

Best Regards, Steve "SactoTeddyBear

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Post# 26402-2/9/2003-22:34 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Those DIRTY Rings (thnx)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg, Awesome collection you have!! You should be very proud. Everything looks to be in perfect condition. I loved the small appliances, because of space that is what I have some of myself. Do you use the Sunbeam Coffeemaster? I have two of the model C's that I can't use because they need new seals. Is the Hoover the only vacuum that you have collected. Like Scott I love that turquoise GE range, what a beauty. Thanks so much for sharing with all of us. I will look forward to seeing that new Westinghouse set. Terry

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Post# 26403-2/9/2003-22:38 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Those DIRTY Rings (Thanks Robert)
MESSAGE: Thanks Robert for the new commericals and the owners manual of the month. I haven't gotten them downloaded yet but with dial up it will take a bit of time but I will get there!! Great to see you posting again. Terry

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Post# 26404-2/9/2003-22:59 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: two new photo albums (wow)
MESSAGE: Thank you Greg for your kind words! Yes I like your Hoover model 28 very much! Nothing like a vintage Hoover for thorough cleaning!

Here are a couple of my pastel ones, from the 60s.
LINK: http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL53/814581/1667532/19618083.jpg

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Post# 26405-2/10/2003-05:06 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: new photos (thnx)
MESSAGE: Actually, Greg, I don't know what year your washer is. The folks who owned the house with the matching dryer didn't know the year either. I asked - but I got the usual response - had no idea, came with the house, didn't even know the brand......

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Post# 26406-2/10/2003-05:07 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Those DIRTY Rings
MESSAGE: Hey, Robert, thanks for the commercials -never saw an actual commercial for Norge before... Was that dryer in the Wisk commercial a Hamilton???

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Post# 26407-2/10/2003-05:09 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: WAIT...Don't Touch That Dial
MESSAGE: Yes and now washday will forever be a holiday in your home!!!

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Post# 26408-2/10/2003-06:44 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: I am getting a Maytag A206! I have a question about Craters and Freighters though.
MESSAGE: Jamie, LUCKY you. Those are very NICE Maytags. I'm so happy for you. Bob P.S., tell your mom hi for me.

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Post# 26409-2/10/2003-07:01 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: new photos
MESSAGE: "It's rainin' appliances, hallelujah, it's rainin' appliances, for Greg!!!". Greg, congratulations on all the recent finds again. I love the pics, thanks for sharing with us. Always loved the magic mix filters on whirlpools. Friends of ours in Dallas had that Kenmore dryer, I haven't seen that since I was 5. Thanks for the memory. My aunt had the matching washer too (at least the frog-eyed control panel with the exact same color of the eye dial), but I think her's was a bit newer because it also had a waterfall filter in it and I don't think Kenmore started offering the filter until 1957. But otherwise, it matched the dryer exactly. That's another memory you brought up for me. Thanks. It's kool to see "modern" things in that GE fridge too.

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Post# 26410-2/10/2003-07:05 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Those DIRTY Rings (thnx)
MESSAGE: Thanks Terry, yes, the Hoover is the only vac so far, and I do use the Sunbeam, it makes a great cup of coffee, glad you liked the photos.........-GregM

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Post# 26411-2/10/2003-07:07 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: two new photo albums (wow)
MESSAGE: look at the color of those vacs, to funny, very cool, are those from the fifties or sixties?? thanks for sharing...-GregM

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Post# 26412-2/10/2003-07:09 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: new photos
MESSAGE: thanks, and glad you liked the photos Bob...........

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Post# 26413-2/10/2003-07:11 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Those DIRTY Rings
MESSAGE: Mike you've got the right commercial for sure. I've seen it at least 15 ties in the last 10 days, particularly since last week was a laundry spectacular week. Too bad the men didn't remove their undershirts though. But I have to admit, I was as bit "shocked" at such a commercial in this day and time.

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Post# 26414-2/10/2003-11:43 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: two new photo albums (wow)
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg! They were made from 1958 until about the early 70s. There were pink, blue, yellow, orange, green and umpteen variations of each, and Hoover had special names for each of the different colors. The blue one you see in the picture is "Delft Blue and Pearl White (the base), and the other is "Victorian Rose and Seal Griege".

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Post# 26415-2/10/2003-12:19 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Those DIRTY Rings
MESSAGE: OMG! That voice going "Ring around the collar!" gave me the chills! I remember those wisk commercials distinctly. The one I remember most is when the lady is unpacking a suitcase and the voice comes on "ring around the collar".

My dream is to see the Kenmore Dual Action agitator vs. Frigidaire Jetcone commercial.

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Post# 26416-2/10/2003-13:29 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: '59 MAYTAG need tranny seal / fill valve assembly
MESSAGE: Well I tried out the '59 Maytag (model A700) which works great, BUT, it needs a new fill valve assembly, it fills warm on all settings. I also need to find a tranny seal and idealistically a new/rebuilt tranny just to have on the side, should this one quit. Any assistance is appreciated. I took more photos today, should be out here soon.

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Post# 26417-2/10/2003-13:56 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: I am confused! HELP!
MESSAGE: How on earth do you ask craters and freighters to pack and ship something from Rockford, Il? How do I buy the item on ebay then get craters and freighters to go there, pack it up, and then ship it to me? Please help me!

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Post# 26418-2/10/2003-14:43 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: I am confused! HELP!
MESSAGE: First, take a deep breath and relax! It's all very logical. Slow down and think. You first need to see if you can get shipping and then go bid. No use bidding on something without knowing IF you can get it shipped to you and HOW MUCH it will cost.

First, you need to see if there is an office in the city where the item is. Got to the link below, and click on "FIND OUT IF WE PICK-UP IN YOUR AREA" on the right side. Put in the zip code where the item is. If you don't know, use the link there to look for zip codes in Rockville, IL.

If Rockford is not serviced, go back to the home page and click on "FIND A LOCATION" on the yellow bar, then select Illinios. You will have to then either call directly or email the office you think is closest to Rockford to see if they will go out, pack and ship for you.

You will need the dimensions and weight of the machine in order to request a quote. Note that the further the item is from the office, the more it will cost.

Is this for a Maytag washer?

-ph
LINK: http://www.cratersandfreighters.com/

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Post# 26419-2/10/2003-14:52 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Maytag A207
MESSAGE: Jamie,

Please don't tell me that you absolutely can't find one of these locally behind an appliance store or at a used appliance place. You could probably get one for free! There are millions of these machines out there. Believe me, save your money for a truly rare machine to show up.

-ph
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2307259306&category=20714

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Post# 26420-2/10/2003-15:01 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: More Cool and closer to Ann Arbor
MESSAGE: Must not have sold first time around?

-ph
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2307180075&category=20714

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Post# 26421-2/10/2003-15:44 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag A207
MESSAGE: But, you see, there is a problem. I can't get a wringer (mom thinks that they are gross) and I can't get an automatic from behind a store (mom thinks that they are also gross.) I also have a limited amount of time to get washer at all. Does anyone have a truly awesome Frigidaire that I can have? That would be wonderful! It would be my first Vintage Automatic Washer.

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Post# 26422-2/10/2003-16:40 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: WAIT...Don't Touch That Dial
MESSAGE: Wonderful OM of a wonderful machine indeed.

Thanks!

Louis

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Post# 26423-2/10/2003-16:47 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: More Cool and closer to Ann Arbor
MESSAGE: I love that machine, Peter. The pink Sears wringers have turned up a couple of times at the sales here in Minneapolis. I wonder if they were just made in pink, or if you ordered by color just like an automatic. Someone just bid $125 (not from the club) on the round (BOL) Maytag wringer, so maybe they are getting a little closer in their price range.

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Post# 26424-2/10/2003-16:48 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: new photos
MESSAGE: Hey Greg,

If you are going on like this I bet there will soon be a museum in Boston. With major and small appliances!

Greetz,

Louis

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Post# 26425-2/10/2003-16:49 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag A207
MESSAGE: Jamie, you might find a place that has some used automatics kept inside that your mom wouldn't object to. It might be worth asking anyway, and like Peter says, you can then save your shipping money for when a rarer machine comes along. Best wishes with whatever you do, and enjoy!

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Post# 26426-2/10/2003-16:50 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag A207
MESSAGE: Hey Jamie,

Isn't there a reliable second hand appliance dealer around where you live? I bet ther must be something around where you can buy a nice collectible washer.

Louis

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Post# 26427-2/10/2003-17:09 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: new photos (thnx)
MESSAGE: Thanks Louis, Hey you never know.............nice to hear from you. Hope all is well..........

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Post# 26428-2/10/2003-18:35 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag A207
MESSAGE: Believe it or not, there isn't. The only ones that we have sell machines from the late 80's to the early 90's, BORING!

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Post# 26429-2/10/2003-20:54 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag A207
MESSAGE: Hi Jamie.
You have had some good advice here, ALWAYS find out how much freight will cost before bidding on it. You may easily find that freight costs more than the machine itself. Here are a few strategies that may help you...
Strategy 1: Sit down calmly with your mom and talk through the issue of getting an old machine fom behind a store, or from a roadside junk collection. Some of the best "finds" are obtained this way, almost my whole collection has been for free, or from the recycling centre, which charges AU$15 for any washing machine. (that's about US$7.50) Many of the machines are a bit dirty, you could agree with your mom that anything she considers TOO dirty to go in her car will be left behind, or that she has a final right of veto over any pickup. This at least keeps your options open, more that a total refusal to even consider free sources. Your side of the bargain would be you would promise that IMMEDIATELY the machine arrives home, you put it in the garage or wherever she decides, and thoroughly CLEAN the machine from top to bottom. If you absolutely make it sparkle then she should have no objection. If she is worried about getting her car dirty, you could agree that you would carefully empty any water out of the machine (remove the pump hose), wipe over the machine with an old towel or something similar, and put down a tarpaulin (is that a US word?? someone translate please???) in the car before putting the machine on it. It might help to explain to your Mom that many (possibly most) machines thrown away actually only have trivial faults.
You should do as much as you can to learn how to diagnose faults without needing a power supply. For example, if you turn the belt by hand and hear a loud growling noise as the bowl rotates, the machine needs new bearings and is best left behind.

Strategy 2: With your Mom's permission, go to the second hand appliance stores and have a friendly chat to the owners of the businesses. Explain what you are interested in. Unfortunately because of your age they might not take you seriously, but try to make them understand you are serious about it and have your Mom's permission. Then explain what types of machines you are interested in. They might not SELL the older machines, as you have explained, but almost certainly they will occasionally get them in as trade-ins. Usually they would sell them for scrap to the crusher, you are providing them with an alternative method of disposal. You may be able to get them to repair the machine, or you might have to take it "as is". Sometimes there is nothing wrong with the trade in, it is just being replaced because it is "too old" or some other silly reason. These are the best finds of course.

Remember you don't always have to OWN machines to get fun out of looking at them. If you are allowed to, have a look behind stores at the dead machines there. Look at the differences between brands, if the back panels are off you can look at how the different brands work, too. You don't have to take it home to get pleasure from it.

If/when you do eventually get a machine home, make sure you have a safety switch (ground leakage circuit breaker) and only connect the machine through it. Sometimes due to wire degradation or faults the machine can actually be dangerous. You need to protect yourself from possible faults. We want you to still be around to tell us about your finds!!
Good luck with your search.
I like the look of that Maytag alot Jamie, just be careful you know and can afford the TOTAL cost, not just the purchase cost.
Chris.

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Post# 26430-2/11/2003-05:19 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: WAIT...Don't Touch That Dial (Thanks Robert!)
MESSAGE: Robert,
It was nice see your postings!
Thanks for the great stuff that you added.
Brent

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Post# 26431-2/11/2003-05:22 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: new photos (Great Pictures Greg!)
MESSAGE: Greg,
Thanks for sharing your great collection of machines and small appliances.
I am so impressed how you get these machines all cleaned up, and painted, and running so fast! You are an appliance magnet!
Brent

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Post# 26432-2/11/2003-05:24 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: new photos (Pretty WP What happend this WP Greg?)
MESSAGE: Greg,
The Whirlpool that you are talking about in your post, did you take it apart? I was so impressed with how nice that machine was when I was looking at your photo albums. The WP in your photo's is the same machine that you took apart? If so Why?
Just curious.
Brent


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Post# 26433-2/11/2003-05:29 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: POD 2-11-02
MESSAGE: Wow,
This POD brought back memories to me from my youth. I remember this exact ad. I think that I even saved it when I was a kid. I remember it because my mom was thinking about getting a new washer and dryer, and I kept showing her this picture, and how beautiful the GM Frigidaire machines were. She bought a Kenmore set. :(
Brent

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Post# 26434-2/11/2003-06:14 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: GE Fridge Greg
MESSAGE: Greg: What is in the two bottom drawers of your GE fridge? It looks like they are filled to the brim with black eyed peas or coffee beans????
jon

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Post# 26435-2/11/2003-06:24 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag A207
MESSAGE: Yes, I can believe that Jamie - I would say the same is true here in CT. also. However, have you gone to any estate sales in your area?? Believe it or not, I have seen quite a few A207 or "207 like" machines at those sales- and they are in working order. Might be worth a look.

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Post# 26436-2/11/2003-08:49 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: new photos (Pretty WP What happend this WP Greg?)
MESSAGE: Hi Brent --

That WP washer was a "plaything" in my little washerland for a while. I found the machine at a sale in the neighborhood and then found an older, nicer top that was a little more deluxe from an RCA WP at my Launderall dealer. I switched out the panels and lids to make it a hybrid machine. The panel says "Magic Clean filter" and has a light to indicate when the machine is filtering, but still had the recirculating filter under the lid. I used this machine for a while but it had to go once there was another machine to take it's place. I stripped some parts from it and let it go after my first SD farm trip.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/surgilator/vwp?.dir=/Whirlpool&.src=ph&.dnm=Look+who+came+home+today!.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/surgilator/lst%3f%26.dir=/Whirlpool%26.src=ph%26.view=t

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Post# 26437-2/11/2003-08:54 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 2-11-02
MESSAGE: Me too! I remember the Frigidaire ads well from the 70's. I remember one from that era that had a picture of a control tower 57 washer in a barn that was still working, used to wash horse blankets while their new 1-18 was in the house. Maybe someone out there has a copy, it would be fun to see again.

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Post# 26438-2/11/2003-09:03 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: IMPERIAL BOB
MESSAGE: If you're out there, please email me. Bellsouth has screwed my dsl up (again!!!!!) and all addresses are history.
Tom

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Post# 26439-2/11/2003-09:19 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 2-11-02 (Would love to see that one.)
MESSAGE: Greg,
That sounds like such a cool ad. I wonder if it was just a story that GM put together, or if it was a real situation. Would love to see that one.
Brent

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Post# 26440-2/11/2003-09:43 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 2-11-02 (memories!)
MESSAGE: Those Great memories
The poppy color is just like my aunts 1/18 set
oh those wonderfil memories
Peter

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Post# 26441-2/11/2003-13:01 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag A207
MESSAGE: Jamie! The advice that Chris gave you is really good advice. The best finds are sometimes on the side of the road! It's also very difficult to find really great washers and dryers here in Florida, so I understand your frustration. I would save your money and wait until a Frigidaire comes along, and eventually one will, since that is the machine that you really want anyway. One of the joys of collecting is the anticipation of someday finding exactly what you want and not having to settle with something less. You're young with LOTS of time to collect! So don't give up!!! That Maytag is a lovely machine, but I have a feeling that you would get bored with it fairly quickly even though they are some (mine) collector's favorites. If you have a Home Depot, Lowes, Sears, or other appliance shop that sells new appliances, talk to the sales people in the appliance department, and the delivery people especially, and let them know exactly what you're looking for. (make up a list on a sheet of paper that's not too long that they can keep in their wallet to give to each delivery person) Let them know that you are offering a $50 or $100 Cash reward for the machines on your list. Believe me, they WILL start looking and before you know it, you'll get a call with one of your dream machines from the list. It might cost you another $20 for the delivery, but sometimes they will even drop them off for free. That's when the real fun begins! Take care my friend and best of luck! Mark

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Post# 26442-2/11/2003-17:01 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: OM of the M
MESSAGE: Loved the stuff. I can still remember "aunt mary" putting the detergent in and filling bleach cup!
Anyway, how did the water level control modify the timer? Was timer two speed? What would happen if you switched in the middle of cycle? I'm guessing that fill was timed as opposed to metered?

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Post# 26443-2/11/2003-19:17 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag A207 (Lowes)
MESSAGE: I always wondered about Lowe's or how they'd feel if I drove behind the store looking for old appliances. Would they turn me away if I did that? Ya never know, I might just find a Kenmore 800 back there.

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Post# 26444-2/11/2003-19:26 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag A207 (You just have to talk to them.)
MESSAGE: Jason,
If you talk to them, they don't mind. They get to know you. The two Lowes that I go to have the appliances that they pick up behind a locked gate. They don't mind if you find something and take it because they pay for whatever company hauls it off by pound. In many ways, you are doing them a favor.
Here in Atlanta, BFI is the private "garbage" company. They are also very expensive.
Check it out! You might find more than you can handle. And if that is the case, you can always fix it (if there is anything wrong with it) and put it on Ebay!!!
Brent

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Post# 26445-2/11/2003-19:41 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Fridge Greg (LOL)
MESSAGE: its just dark grey, white speckled porcelain...........

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Post# 26446-2/11/2003-19:45 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Fridge Greg (oh.....)
MESSAGE: ignore previous post, I thought you were talking about my pink GE frig, you were talking about the '45 in my kitchen, the bottom drawers are filled with fruits and veggies, just below the beer, hehehe.........

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Post# 26447-2/11/2003-20:00 ||| washerlover (northern California)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi to Washerlover
MESSAGE: Hi,

Happy to hear from you! It would be awesome if you could make the journey up here for the next convention. I still don't know when/where it is...?!

Take care,

Todd

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Post# 26448-2/11/2003-20:05 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 2-11-02
MESSAGE: My God, I had forgotten all about that ad. Now that you mention it Greg, that was a pretty swell one. Yes, I thought that ad would push my parents to get a 1-18 when they went looking for a new washer - you know showing how durable those Frigidaires were. But no such luck.... we ended up with a close to BOL line Kenmore from Sears Scratch and Dent department.............

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Post# 26449-2/11/2003-20:07 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 2-11-02 (memories!)
MESSAGE: Can't you just imagine a whole "suite" of appliances in that color?? I bet that would make for a great "retro" kitchen today!!!!

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Post# 26450-2/11/2003-21:29 ||| bendix5 (oregon)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi to Washerlover
MESSAGE: Welcome to the club. It is nice to see more people from the west coast getting into the club. This is a great bunch of people and I hope you enjoy!

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Post# 26451-2/11/2003-21:51 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: IMPERIAL BOB
MESSAGE: Here's Imperialbob's email address from his profile still left on this board...

robert.wirth2@verizon.net


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Post# 26452-2/11/2003-22:56 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 2-11-02 (Help me here)
MESSAGE: Okay. I give up. What's the kid in the ad fiddling with that's sitting on top of the room A/C? Is it a toaster oven?

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Post# 26453-2/11/2003-23:28 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 2-11-02 (It looks like a microwave)
MESSAGE: One of my colleagues inherited one just like it when she bought her house. To say that it's HUGE would be an understatement! She donated it to the office kitchen because she already had a newer (and more importantly) smaller model.

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Post# 26454-2/12/2003-00:03 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 2-11-02 (It looks like a microwave)
MESSAGE: *heeheehee* And in addition to being big, it was probably heavy and had a 220 volt power cord! Some things are better downsized.

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Post# 26455-2/12/2003-01:35 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: POD Unusual Westinghouse Washer
MESSAGE: Has anyone seen a Westinghouse washer of this style before? I don't recall seeing a model with the timer in the center, or with the rear-opening lid this one seems to have.

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Post# 26456-2/12/2003-05:36 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: Had the same question as scott
MESSAGE: I have never seen a westinghouse with that type of configuration. and when I was a kid I was every saturday looking at all the new machine in all of the stores in Manchester N.H. We lived right downtown so it was easy to go to all of them. They knew me pretty well so they would let me look and not chase me off. When we went to sears My mother always knew where to find me. that is when they had washers hook up to water and you could watch them wash.

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Post# 26457-2/12/2003-06:58 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Unusual Westinghouse Washer
MESSAGE: never seen, agitator looks like the kind you would find in an old "EASY" ..............

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Post# 26458-2/12/2003-07:45 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Unusual Westinghouse Washer
MESSAGE: This machine was most likely sourced from Easy in the early 60's. I have a parts book that lists models LTC and LCV-27 that were built by Easy. This must have been right before Westinghouse introduced their own top loading washer in 1964/65. Very interesting POD for sure!

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Post# 26459-2/12/2003-10:54 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Unusual Westinghouse Washer
MESSAGE: 1) I've never seen a top loading Westinghouse that even came close to looking like the one in this ad. The Sept. 1966 issue of Consumer Reports noted that in their comments for the tested top loading Westinghouse that the "Brand's top-loading machines were introduced too recently to have a Frequency of Repair Record." (They tested a Westinghouse top-loading model LAF-590, which ranked third in the ratings.) A recent POD featured two kids using a front loading Westy as a sandbox. The ad bragged about the 1964 Laundromat's sand disposal capabilities. Does anyone know when Westinghouse introduced top loaders?

2)The Sept. 1966 issue of Consumer Reports also noted that the low rated tested Hotpoint model LW-680 washer and Easy Model WA-222 washer were essentially similar to one another. The Sept. 1969 issue of Consumer reports noted the the low rated tested Hotpoint model LB880 dryer and Easy model DE544 dryer were essentially similar to one another. The four machine obviously had the same manufacturer. (Easy? Hotpoint? I wonder?)

3) The ad copy for today's POD doesn't indicate the year or the model number. It's possible that it is one of Westinghouse's first top-loaders and that it probably was outsourced. I agree that that agitator looks like an Easy agitator. I wonder who made it? Easy? Hotpoint? Very interesting!

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Post# 26460-2/12/2003-11:13 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Unusual Westinghouse Washer
MESSAGE: Mike, any chance you could scan those articles and post them? I love reading old CR's and the library here doesn't share my passion!

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Post# 26461-2/12/2003-12:14 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Unusual Westinghouse Washer (I could try scanning and posting them)
MESSAGE: I too enjoy reading old issues of consumer reports. I often read the ones that are on this site. I really need to do something to save both issues. They were my parents and I "borrowed" ;-) them when I was a kid. They're both in very bad shape. The 1966 issue, which reports on both washers and dryers, and has a picture of a GE filter flow and mini-basket on the front cover, is in especially bad shape. It's not long for this world. Scanning them is a great idea. I never posted anything that I've scanned on net so I'm probably going to need lots of cyber-hand holding! Wish me luck.

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Post# 26462-2/12/2003-12:24 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Unusual Westinghouse Washer (It's an EASY!)
MESSAGE: That Westinghouse design is EXTREMELY rare. Westinghouse outsourced their very first top loader to Easy. Easy made Westy top loaders for 1 or 2 years before Westinghouse had tooled up for top-loader production and started producing their own design. I believe I pulled that ad out of a 1964 magazine.

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Post# 26463-2/12/2003-12:59 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Unusual Westinghouse Washer (It's an EASY!)
MESSAGE: Hey its uni =) Good to see you back =)

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Post# 26464-2/12/2003-14:08 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: SPEAKING OF OLD CONSUMER REPORTS.....
MESSAGE: Has anyone noticed that the picture included in the article in "vintage articles" about 50's dishwasher that is labeled "hotpoint" looks a whole lot like the racks and door of the "kitchenaide"? Our 57 Hotpoint did not look anything like that and it sure didn't wash as well as the KA. Was HP selling rebranded KA's then?

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Post# 26465-2/12/2003-14:22 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Unusual Westinghouse Washer
MESSAGE: I have the '66 issue of CR also, the Westinghouse tested was a true Westinghouse machine, not outsourced as the POD was from Easy. I have a 1964 ad for the Westinghouse top-loading washer as well as the first service books from Westinghouse for that new model. Tested in 1966, CR would have had no survey data on reliability for that washer. It would prove to be rather poor in later years.

The Hotpoint/Easy connection was simply Hotpoint making machines branded with the Easy nameplate after Easy discontinued production - apparently right around the same time.

The POD was an Easy made washer, solid tub with the "Velva-Power" direct drive transmission.

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Post# 26466-2/12/2003-14:23 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: SPEAKING OF OLD CONSUMER REPORTS.....
MESSAGE: Hee hee - just an editing mistake by CR, the Hotpoint would have looked much different as you said.


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Post# 26467-2/12/2003-15:33 ||| filekar1 (italy)
SUBJECT: Look at this OLD BAUKNECHT
MESSAGE: Hi Foraloysius, look at this old bauknecht washer It's a 1959 washer It's look like a Constructa that you have in your photo album
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3207368898&category=8419

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Post# 26468-2/12/2003-16:24 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: found tranny seal......"O" ring seal for Maytag
MESSAGE: well I found a tranny seal and "O" ring seal for my '59 Maytag washer. So that will be something I will be replacing sometime early this spring. The other guy who fixed this machine told me those parts were not available....hmmmm.....I went to a Maytag rep near home today and he had them in stock. He said if you replace these two items and change the oil (using 90 weight gear oil) , I should get another 15 years out of the tranny easily........... I do have some questions on replacing the "O" ring if anyone is knowledgeable in this area, please let me know..........thanks, -gregm

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Post# 26469-2/12/2003-16:53 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Look at this OLD BAUKNECHT
MESSAGE: I still have no idea if there is any connection between both brands. I have mailed the German Constructa collector. I will post here when I hear from him.

Louis

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Post# 26470-2/12/2003-17:00 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: SPEAKING OF OLD CONSUMER REPORTS.....
MESSAGE: I thought the same thing. But the HP was a high ranker?!

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Post# 26471-2/12/2003-19:13 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Unusual Westinghouse Washer
MESSAGE: Mike, does it give any detail as to why the Hotpoint was low-rated? Having seen a few of the Hotpoint machines, I can't imagine why they would receive a low rating. I think they were very nice machines.

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Post# 26472-2/12/2003-20:52 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Fridge Greg (LOL)
MESSAGE: Looks Like BEANS To me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Post# 26473-2/12/2003-20:59 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Unusual Westinghouse Washer (Just like my 62 Velva??)
MESSAGE: Greg is it the same tranny as my "62 Velva-Power Easy??
That has 7 spray rinses in spin!!! Talk about drenched!
jet

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Post# 26474-2/12/2003-21:02 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: found tranny seal......"O" ring seal for Maytag (Yewwws???)
MESSAGE: I can talk you down Lamp BOy!!!
jet

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Post# 26475-2/12/2003-21:02 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Look at this OLD BAUKNECHT
MESSAGE: Louis you must get it and try bluing in it!!!
jet

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Post# 26476-2/12/2003-21:15 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Unusual Westinghouse Washer (Just like my 62 Velva?? Okay I give up!)
MESSAGE: Okay,
What did Velva Power actually mean?
Brent

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Post# 26477-2/12/2003-21:16 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Look at this OLD BAUKNECHT (How Cool.)
MESSAGE: What a great looking machine.
Looks like it would mean business!
Brent

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Post# 26478-2/12/2003-21:34 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Unusual Westinghouse Washer (Just like my 62 Velva?? Okay I give up!)
MESSAGE: I'm not really sure Brent, I have never seen ads depicting it. RObert is the one who told me I have a Velva Power machine. BUT he's never actually seen it since its been TEN YEARS since he came out to BOSTON.

The motor is mounted transverse and directly drives the washer. It takes quite awhile for the tub to get up to speed.
My machine is in storage right now but it has the Pop Can timer if you know what that is. The lady of the house could change cycles without ever breaking a nail!!!
jet

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Post# 26479-2/12/2003-21:38 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: General Request
MESSAGE: Hi all, since I was un-mercilessly outbid on that beautiful 1958 Hobart DW on ebay I have decided to yank my busted up machine out of storage and repair it.
SO Does anyone have the manuals or part catalogs on the KD-12,I could copy and send right back?? This is virgin territory for me Hobart is a new dimension to me.
Thansk in advance
jon

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Post# 26480-2/12/2003-22:06 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Unusual Westinghouse Washer (Low Rated Hotpoint)
MESSAGE: Hi Scott,

They didn't have many good things to say about it. They called its washing ability "satisfactory" (by way on contrast the check rated Maytag A-606 was among several tested machines whose washing ability was rated as "somewhat better than that of most other machines"); they had a problem with its sand disposal capabilities; they objected to it's "single relatively long cycle with long (8 min.) spin period"; they didn't like the fact that it didn't have a safety switch to stop the machine if it was opened during the spin cycle; they complained about the fact that some parts of its filtering system were built into the agitator, which required "inconvenient" disassembly and reassembly to clean; they complained that the tub took "about 1 min. to come to a stop" at the end of the cycle; and they complained that its "smooth control knobs" were "slippery to grasp with wet hands".

Mike

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Post# 26481-2/12/2003-22:08 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Unusual Westinghouse Washer (Unusual Westinghouse Washer! )
MESSAGE: Hi Scott,
I hope you are doing well. I had Hotpoint washers growing up.
My father was able to make deals on the purchase via his business. They did wash very well but they were problem oriented machines. And major ones at that also like with the transmission. Their average life span was only about 5 or 6 years! They were awsone style machines. I think the best decision was to change them to the GE style in '74.
Peter


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Post# 26482-2/12/2003-22:24 ||| david (bossier city, La)
SUBJECT: old westinghouse washer made by easy
MESSAGE: Hi, sorry i haven't said hello sooner. I can tell you something about the old top-loader westinghouse by easy. I believe they were manufactured around 61 or 62. I remember when we got ours in March or April of 62. We moved to Arizona from back east and had left behind a perfectly good norge timeline in the old house. Bought this "easyhouse", lasted 13 years or so. replaced pump(sock got caught in it) once, leveling problem on next move(machin skipped cycles), lint-filter never stayed positioned around agitator, water into machine sprayed across room if lid was up. had no safety switch at all (you could witness all cycles, including spin),other than that it was a fine machine! Possibly the old owners manual for it and a 67 westy electric dryer are still in my mom's belongings. I will send them if i can find them

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Post# 26483-2/12/2003-22:28 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Unusual Westinghouse Washer (It's an EASY!)
MESSAGE: Hi notafixer, thanks I've been lurking around, I'm just very busy during the day. :)

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Post# 26484-2/12/2003-22:30 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Unusual Westinghouse Washer (Just like my 62 Velva?? Okay I give up!)
MESSAGE: Don't worry Jon, I'm sure I'll be in Boston this summer, after all, I certainly will want to be there when your host this year's convention!

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Post# 26485-2/12/2003-22:34 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: General Request
MESSAGE: Well of course - I have factory parts and service books for all Kitchen Aid models up to the 21 series. Let me know what you'd like and I'll make you copies at work - clandestine like!

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Post# 26486-2/12/2003-22:36 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Unusual Westinghouse Washer (Just like my 62 Velva?? Okay I give up!)
MESSAGE: YAY!

Jon, have you been holding out on us?? No matter, what fun we'll have!!

I can already feel the sting of the slaps across the midwest!

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Post# 26487-2/12/2003-23:39 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: old westinghouse washer made by easy (YAY! More Louisiana people)
MESSAGE: Hi David. I'm in New Orleans and also tcox619 is also in New Orleans. We just recently had a wash-in with his 73 Frigidaire 1-18s and it was fun.

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Post# 26488-2/12/2003-23:40 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Unusual Westinghouse Washer
MESSAGE: I wanna know if the husband comes as an optional accessory to the washer?

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Post# 26489-2/12/2003-23:43 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Everything old is new again.
MESSAGE: It seems the rage is soon becoming making coffee in French Presses or vacuum pots again. Well, I caught the fever and my Bodum vacuum pot is coming in tomorrow. Well, I coulda broke myself in with a vintage Silex or a Cory but after getting a new one and learning how it works then I can start looking for old ones on Ebay to collect and use.

YAY for CORRECT coffee making.

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Post# 26490-2/12/2003-23:47 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: found tranny seal......"O" ring seal for Maytag
MESSAGE: Go GREGM!!! Another Maytag saved!!1 YAY.

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Post# 26491-2/12/2003-23:54 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: old westinghouse washer made by easy
MESSAGE: David, Welcome!!! Another member from Louisiana!!!! See Jason & Todd, you're not alone.

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Post# 26492-2/13/2003-00:12 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: Hotpoint Lady Executive
MESSAGE: Another wonderful P-o-t-D!

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Post# 26493-2/13/2003-00:53 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Look at this OLD BAUKNECHT
MESSAGE: It's an interesting machine, but I have no place to put it. I love the styling. But alas. I will have to do the bluing in my Miele on my next load of whites.

Louis

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Post# 26494-2/13/2003-00:59 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Lady Executive
MESSAGE: What a wonderful machine! So very fliexible. From what year is this machine? This is the first machine I've seen with a timer for the soak, were there others?

Louis

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Post# 26495-2/13/2003-01:08 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Lady Executive (Soak timers)
MESSAGE: Speed Queen, and I think it went to 24 hrs!

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Post# 26496-2/13/2003-05:47 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Lady Executive (Soak timers)
MESSAGE: Wow!
What a great looking machine.
I have never seen a top loader with so many wash and rinse options, not to mention the soak times.
Does anyone in the club have this machine, or one similar?
Just the sound of the water coming up from the bottom of the agitator and flowing into the filter sounds exciting!
Brent


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Post# 26497-2/13/2003-05:49 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Unusual Westinghouse Washer (Just like my 62 Velva?? Okay I give up! Pop can timer?)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the information Jon.
No, can't say that I know what a pop-can timer is or was.
The only think that I can think of is that you had a little lever that you could pop out, and work the timer adjustments with one finger.
Am I close?
Brent

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Post# 26498-2/13/2003-06:40 ||| jmattero (PA)
SUBJECT: 1950's Caloric Gas Range Stove in great shape
MESSAGE: Hello:
I have bought a home from an elderly couple, and am installing a new kitchen. In the home is a White - 1953 (I think) Caloric gas range which is in excellent shape, and works perfectly.

The stove is 36" wide, with 4 burners on the top left, and a "countertop" type area on the top right. The oven/broiler is on the right, and there is storage on the left. There are two minor problems with this stove, the timer knob (on the "backsplash" area) has the numbers worn off, and the oven knob is cracked. Both knobs, however, work fine.

In any case, is there anyone here interested in buying this (cheaply)? If not, could you direct me to someone who might be interested?

Thanks.

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Post# 26499-2/13/2003-07:20 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Everything old is new again.
MESSAGE: How fun - I don't drink much coffee, but vacuum pots are some of my favorite small appliances. Sunbeam vacuum pots are easy to find and their reputation is renowned for good coffee making. Another advantage to these is that they are smaller to collect than washers!

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Post# 26500-2/13/2003-07:24 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Look at this OLD BAUKNECHT
MESSAGE: This is a beautiful washer style - that spare bedroom can't be full already! ;-)

I had a dream the other night of six washers hooked up and running in my garage - I hope that it wasn't a sign!

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Post# 26501-2/13/2003-08:16 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Lady Executive (1972-1974 Line)
MESSAGE: Hi Louis, this Hotpoint was from the 1972-1974 line. This was the very last solid basket Hotpoint TOL washer.

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Post# 26502-2/13/2003-08:27 ||| steved (Albany, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: General Request (ahem.....)
MESSAGE: Jon, send me your address and I'll hook you up...... SteveD

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Post# 26503-2/13/2003-09:09 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Lady Executive (1972-1974 Line)
MESSAGE: For the first time I'm in LOVE. What a cool washer! I would love to see the "fountain filter" work. If anyone can give us more info, it sure would be great!!!

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Post# 26504-2/13/2003-09:44 ||| washerlover (northern California)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Lady Executive (Soak timers)
MESSAGE: Hi Brent,

I know what you mean. Quite an exciting machine. And yes, the sound of the water going thru the filter is exciting -- probably sounds similar to Norge machines with the same type of filter. Amazing technology!

Take care,

Todd

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Post# 26505-2/13/2003-10:09 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Lady Executive
MESSAGE: Yes it is!
This machine is so manly.....


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Post# 26506-2/13/2003-11:36 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Look at this OLD BAUKNECHT
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, was "bluing" ever a common item used in doing laundry in Europe?

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Post# 26507-2/13/2003-12:54 ||| Jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale
MESSAGE: There is a very old solid tub GE Filterflo washer at an estate sale at 3725 24th Ave S. The sale is Thursday and Friday in South Mpls. I didn't see a price on it, I don't think they believe anyone might be interested. It is down the basement with a bunch of glasses sitting on it. All of you hearty Minnesotans-Check it out!!

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Post# 26508-2/13/2003-13:08 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Everything old is new again. (and here it is)
MESSAGE: So that's what coffee supposed to taste like.
LINK: http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/kenmore800/lst?&.dir=/pictures/Bodum+coffee+pot&.src=bc&.view=t&.begin=1&.order=&.done=http%3a//briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/kenmore800/lst%3f%26.dir=/pictures/Bodum%2bcoffee%2bpot%26.src=bc%26.view=t

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Post# 26509-2/13/2003-14:03 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale (Newsflash - Got It!)
MESSAGE: I saw this post Don and darted out to 24th Avenue South over my lunch hour. They just sold me the washer. It's a georgous 1956 GE in beautiful condition with the turquoise controls and copper trim. Even the turquoise filter mount is in nice shape, it doesn't appear to be used very much. The black speckeled wash-tub is also in MINT condition.

Also there was a beautiful round screen 1949 Airline Television Set which I promply bought too!

Thanks for tipping us off Don, they both would have gone to the crusher otherwise.

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Post# 26510-2/13/2003-15:07 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale (Newsflash - Got It!)
MESSAGE: That's wonderful news Robert. That is such a nice design. Was the fabled copper filter pan still there with it as well? Was there a wringer there also? In all events enjoy the new washer and TV!

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Post# 26511-2/13/2003-15:12 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale (Newsflash - Got It!)
MESSAGE: Fab-u-lous!  Awaiting pics . . .

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Post# 26512-2/13/2003-15:30 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Lady Executive (1972-1974 Line)
MESSAGE: Hi! All,

The POD is just beautifull!. A neighbor accross the street had one of these and I had the chance to actually use it when one of the daughters was doing wash. It was a neat machine with the solid basket and agitator lint filter. The tub was a beautifull white. If I remember correctly it was a very quiet machine. And of course the spin with the water flowing out the top of the tub. I'm getting chills now. Time to hook up my 66' Frigidaire for solid tub fun. What memories this POD brings back!

Cheers

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Post# 26513-2/13/2003-15:31 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale (Newsflash - Got It!)
MESSAGE: That's great Robert. Congrats on the find. Please post pics ASAP.

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Post# 26514-2/13/2003-15:38 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Look at this OLD BAUKNECHT
MESSAGE: I didn't have that kind of dreams about my spare bedroom yet!!

BTW, I think that washer needs 380V, and my spare bedroom doesn't have that (yet).

Louis

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Post# 26515-2/13/2003-15:43 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Look at this OLD BAUKNECHT (Bluing)
MESSAGE: Yes Your Majesty, overhere in the Netherlands bluing used to be quite common. Mostly Reckit blue was used which was called "Poppetje blauw" in the past which means something like Little Doll bluing. Our Boston member and we are exchanging detergent now and then and in the last box we got a bottle of Mrs Stewart's

QLOTOC

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Post# 26516-2/13/2003-15:51 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Unusual Westinghouse Washer (Somebody mentioned convention???)
MESSAGE: And I can already see the look on Jon's face... Now wait a minute, wasn't there a picture......

Far, far away hiding somewhere in Europe
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/convention01/vwp?.dir=/Jetcone+%26+Uni%27s+Convention+Photos+Part+1&.src=ph&.dnm=40+Convention+2002.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/convention01/lst%3f%26.dir=/Jetcone%2b%2526%2bUni%2527s%2bConvention%2bPhotos%2bPart%2b1%26.src=ph%26.view=t

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Post# 26517-2/13/2003-15:57 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale (Newsflash - Got It!)
MESSAGE: Robert, congradulations! I can't wait to see pics. I bet the 56 has the turqoise agitator top like my old 55 did. The timer dial probably illuminates like my 55 and your 58 as well. Let us know how he does once you hook him up! And please post pics soon!

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Post# 26518-2/13/2003-18:06 ||| washerlover (northern California)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Unusual Westinghouse Washer (Somebody mentioned convention???)
MESSAGE: Hi,

I'm afraid I'm the culprit that started the convention discussion. Is it for sure in Boston? When? I'm new to this website and would love details!

Thanks,

Todd

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Post# 26519-2/13/2003-18:30 ||| jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Everything old is new again. (Bodium Coffee)
MESSAGE: I had that pot for a while, I found a new one at the Salvation Army in Mpls-for $3.00-still in the box. The coffee was great, especially since I drink European coffee. It broke several months after I had it, I loved it, but it was fragile. I was always worried I would leave it on the stove with the burner on and forget it, not used to having to tend to a stove top coffee maker! Enjoy! Don

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Post# 26520-2/13/2003-18:41 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Everything old is new again. (Bodium Coffee)
MESSAGE: It makes absolutely incredible coffee. It doesn't taste oily or burnt like on a drip pot, and I notice I can use alot less grounds to make the coffee.

Not only that, IT'S FUN. It's like brewing a potion.

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Post# 26521-2/13/2003-18:50 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale (Newsflash - Got It! Congrats Robert!)
MESSAGE: Robert that is so cool.
I was talking with someone today about that exact machine. I then come home to read that you found one. ESP?
Congrats on your Airline Television also. That sounds very very rare.
Brent

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Post# 26522-2/13/2003-18:52 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Everything old is new again. (and here it is)
MESSAGE: Beautiful Jason - it's always fun getting new housewares!

I was cleaning out cabinets in the kitchen last night and found a Knapp-Monarch waffle iron that I bought ages ago and had forgotten about, still in the bag from a sale. It was fun finding it, but I fear it might also be a tangible symptom too...

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Post# 26523-2/13/2003-18:53 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale (Newsflash - Got It!)
MESSAGE: Well, happy Valentines day then!! What a fun find, and a TV too - I don't think I could go back to work after all that!

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Post# 26524-2/13/2003-19:19 ||| jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale (Newsflash - Got It!)
MESSAGE: YEAH! I am so glad Robert! I thought of you when I saw the tv upstairs. I did not see a filter for the washer, did you find one? You and a few others have been so good to me since I joined, I am really glad to be the messenger for you to get this machine! I will look forward to seeing the machine again, this time in your basement. Don

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Post# 26525-2/13/2003-20:22 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Unusual Westinghouse Washer (Somebody mentioned convention???)
MESSAGE: My heart my heart someone call the ambulance!!!!

jet

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Post# 26526-2/13/2003-20:45 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Lady Executive (My favorite color!)
MESSAGE: And in my favorite color!

Is this an Easy washer? What year did they start with the GE clones?

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Post# 26527-2/13/2003-20:53 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale (Newsflash - Got It!)
MESSAGE: Robert!!!, YAY YAY YAY!!!! Just in the mint of time too. GE. Can't wait for pictures of both.

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Post# 26528-2/13/2003-20:55 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale (Newsflash - Got It!)
MESSAGE: Hmm, a washer & a tv set. Gives new meaning to "the laundry channel".

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Post# 26529-2/13/2003-21:04 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Lady Executive (My favorite color!)
MESSAGE: Hi Jason
No this is a real Hotpoint - they made them until 1974.
I hope you are doing well
I know someone that had a simular model but it wasn't TOL like this one.
Peter

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Post# 26530-2/13/2003-21:15 ||| BsmntFullOSuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: Swastikas in Hotpoint POD
MESSAGE: Anyone else notice the swastikas on the cabinet doors?

They were symbols of good luck, long before they were adopted by the National Socialist movement in Germany. More on the history of the swastika before the 20th century at link
LINK: http://history1900s.about.com/cs/swastika/

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Post# 26531-2/13/2003-21:21 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale (Newsflash - Got It! (five more finds for me))
MESSAGE: Congrads Robert, sounds great, I cannot wait to see pics, well my recent finds don't sound as wonderful as that but I was so psyched to find not one, not two, but three 1/18's this week, an old Norge dryer with this big lift up thing on the right?? and an old I would say early sixties, possibly late fifties Kenmore washer. I pick them up Saturday..........NOW i am REALLY out of room. I also talked to this same guy that I found this stuff with about warehousing and we are going to work something out. He is an hour away from me but I have a good gut feeling the price will be right. Take Care !! - GregM

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Post# 26532-2/13/2003-21:22 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale (Newsflash - Got It!)
MESSAGE: YAY, thanks Don and everyone else. I will post pictures on Saturday afternoon after I pick the machine up. Unfortunately the stairs are so narrow that the Escalara is not an option here so Neal has offered to help me carry that monster up those stairs.

I was able to put the TV in my Jeep so here is a picture of it. Its a 1949 Airline Television which was Montgomery Wards store brand for their electronics, like Silvertone was the Sears brand name for their electronics. Here is a picture of it...
LINK: http://www.classicappliances.com/TEMP/AirlineTV.jpg

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Post# 26533-2/13/2003-21:23 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale (Newsflash - Got It! (five more finds for me))
MESSAGE: Wow, congrats Greg, you are really on a roll! That is just wonderful.

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Post# 26534-2/13/2003-21:44 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale (Newsflash - Got It! (five more finds for me)thnx)
MESSAGE: thanks alot.......I cannot believe it.......... I literally stopped to see a guy near home this morning and he said "those damn old Frigidaires, what a nightmare to work on, haven't seen one for over ten years" ..............then sure enough a buddy of mine hooked me up with his friend who had two and I found one in VT last weekend...........

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Post# 26535-2/13/2003-22:30 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale (Newsflash - Got It! (five more finds for me))
MESSAGE: Greg, you are incredible. You may end up with as many, if not more 1-18s than Steve B. That big lift up thing on the Norge dryer, I hope you mean a lift up door, is access to light the pilot light. If not, I gotta see pics. You know me and those old Norge dryers from my childhood. And, can't wait to see a pic of the Kenmore washer too. Bob

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Post# 26536-2/14/2003-03:38 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale (1949 Airline Television)
MESSAGE: Congratulations Robert, that's a wonderful TV. Kind of a radio with a screen. Is it working?

Louis

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Post# 26537-2/14/2003-04:30 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale (Newsflash - Got It!)
MESSAGE: Hi Robert.
That TV is gorgeous!!!
We got TV here in 1956 so I have never seen a TV like that before. Does the picture follow the curvature of the sides, or does it show a rectangular picture with blank bits at the sides? If round, were the signals broadcast in that same shape or did the TV receiver cut off the corners?
Thanks.
Chris.

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Post# 26538-2/14/2003-05:41 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Look at this OLD BAUKNECHT (Bluing)
MESSAGE: We also have a brand here in Connecticut and the Midddle Atlantic area called Bluette, manufactured by the Walco - Link Company of Clifton New Jersey. It comes in somewhat of a larger bottle than Mrs. Stewart's and is thicker and more concentrated. Directions instruct you to mix with warm water before adding to the final rinse. Sells for $1.49 - $1.69US for a little more than a pint. We also used to have a powder called Blu White, Little Boy Blue Liquid, Bonnie Blue Liquid (with picture of a little Scottish girl on the label and long ago something called Bleachette Bluing. This was basically solid chunks of bluing wrapped in cheesecloth and sold in a foil covered toilet paper roll - 2 to a package. You had to dip the cheesecloth covered bag in a container of warm water until the desired shade was obtained. Worked well, but you could always count on blue hands for a while!

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Post# 26539-2/14/2003-05:44 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale (Newsflash - Got It!)
MESSAGE: Yes, Robert I couldn't think of a better Valentine's Day gift. Another incredible rare find. Congratulations!!! I cannot wait for pictures.

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Post# 26540-2/14/2003-06:00 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale (Newsflash - Got It! (five more finds for me)thnx)
MESSAGE: Well, Greg - those are great finds. Truthfully, I am amazed at the number of 1-18's you found. I have been courting every used appliance dealer in my area to no avail. They simply do not have any interest in anything other than mid 80's Maytags, plastic GE's and 80's - 90's Whirlpool/Kenmores.

Curious about the Vermont washer - was that an estate sale or a dealer and did you find any interesting colors?? Finally, were these in working condition and how were they cosmetically?

Congratulations on all of them - now time to start thinking of building that addition on the house............

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Post# 26541-2/14/2003-06:32 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale (Newsflash - Got It! (cool TV))
MESSAGE: cool TV, does it work ?? Can you or someone you know out there fix it??

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Post# 26542-2/14/2003-06:41 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale (Newsflash - Got It! (five more finds for me)thnx)
MESSAGE: thanks "angus", I obviously got lucky, but I have been asking anyone and everyone for these machines specifically and offering to buy them as well. The 1/18 in VT I found outside of a dumpster with a couple other things in a residential neighborhood. The jetcone inside is very beat up and chipped, and will need to be replaced, there is a missing knob, but the tub is mint. All machines that I have found are white and seem to be in remarkably good condition cosmetically. The two 1/18's that I found yesterday are in great shape and seem to be identical. Pics will come probably in 2-3 weeks. I am literally out of room now. I have an old avocado whirlpool on ebay and an old 1970 built-in Kitchen Aid on ebay as well to try and make a bit more room. If they do not sell, I will post an offer in the club, otherwise they will get trashed.

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Post# 26543-2/14/2003-07:17 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale (Newsflash - Got It!)
MESSAGE: Hi everyone, no the tv doesn't work. You have a much better chance of a vintage washer working than a vintage TV. Vintage TV's have capacitors that get dried out from sitting idle for many years. I'm currently working on my '51 Zenith TV and I will restore this new Airline TV sometime later on in the year. Its quite the process to replace all the tubes and capacitors, then troubleshoot other components. I've been working on the Zenith for three months now.

Chris, the picture fills the entire viewing area of the screen, the broadcast signal is exactly the same today as it was in 1949 (with the exception of digital information placed in the blanking bar) but the far edges of the picture are cut off. 1950's and 1960's Vintage TV shows never had horizontal scrolling text along the bottom of the screen like we see on CNN because the recievers of the time would cut some of it off as they weren't designed for this.

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Post# 26544-2/14/2003-10:29 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Look at this OLD BAUKNECHT (Bluing)
MESSAGE: Angus,

Is the Bluette even more concentrated? I thought the Mrs. Stewart's is already a very high concentration. You just have to use a few drops or up to 1/4 teaspoon and dilute that in a quart or more of cold water. BTW, this is an 8 fl. oz. bottle.

For the people who don't know the Mrs. Stewart's I attached the link to her website. It's real fun website: Do not be concerned with "suds levels".

Louis
LINK: http://www.mrsstewart.com/

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Post# 26545-2/14/2003-11:17 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: FRIGIDAIRE 1-18's
MESSAGE: Hi All! Just want to wish everyone a very happy Valentine's Day!!! Got my Frigidaire 1-18's yesterday and WOW!!! They look to have been never used! The paint is perfect. No pitting on the controls (big problem here in Florida with all the salt in the air) everything just really perfect. Talked to Bruce that sold them to me, and he relayed that they did run them once a month to keep them in working order. Can't wait to get the room to unpack them and hook them up!!! Mark

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Post# 26546-2/14/2003-12:04 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale (TV signals)
MESSAGE: That's right! We so brag about our new home theater systems have a superior picture and all that but we fail to realize that the NTSC standard is 1930s technology.

Of course we have Sony WEGA TVs that have a great picture (besides HDTV) but that same picture can be fed to a 1949 Airline and you can watch it.

Ain't that cool. Watching a DVD on a vintage TV.

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Post# 26547-2/14/2003-14:58 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: FRIGIDAIRE 1-18's (congrads)
MESSAGE: thats great Mark, best wishes........its one thing to find a vintage appliance that you like, its another to find it MINT and working too..........take care.......-gregm

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Post# 26548-2/14/2003-15:00 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale (TV signals)
MESSAGE: wow, that would be very cool, I didn;t know that.......watching a DVD on an old TV, talk about bringing you back in time..............

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Post# 26549-2/14/2003-15:33 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale (TV signals)
MESSAGE: A 1949 Airline wouldn't take an s-video or component signal, but composite running on an RF convertor oughta work!

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Post# 26550-2/14/2003-15:41 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: White Frigidaire 1-18 Pair up on ebay!
MESSAGE: Won't ship though!

LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2308066151&category=20714

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Post# 26551-2/14/2003-15:52 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: White Frigidaire 1-18 Pair up on ebay!
MESSAGE: Yeah, I looked at these and if you notice the water level switch it has the picture of the Westinghouse agitator. These must have come out not long after they took over Frigidaire.

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Post# 26552-2/14/2003-16:18 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: White Frigidaire 1-18 Pair up on ebay!
MESSAGE: DO NOT BE DUPED!!! This is a Westinghouse washer in disguise!!! They used the old "GM like" controls for I think about two years. Inside though, they were the Westinghouse machines. They also used these controls on the front loaders! Mark

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Post# 26553-2/14/2003-16:33 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: White Frigidaire 1-18 Pair up on ebay!
MESSAGE:
soooooo sad!, thanks for the "heads up".

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Post# 26554-2/14/2003-17:09 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale (Newsflash - Got It!)
MESSAGE: Interesting - so I shouldn't always believe the "works" signs on TV's at sales. What is your "dream TV" yet to be found?

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Post# 26555-2/14/2003-17:10 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: FRIGIDAIRE 1-18's
MESSAGE: Congrats Mark - even the picture on ebay looked like they were in nice shape, glad they arrived that way too!

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Post# 26556-2/14/2003-17:18 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: White Frigidaire 1-18 Pair up on ebay! (White Frigidaire 1-18 Pair up on ebay! )
MESSAGE: They kept the same general design from 1981 - 1987 until they changed to the plain control panel. Sad thing was they said it washed just as well as the 1/18!!!!!!
So Sad
Peter


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Post# 26557-2/14/2003-18:39 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale (TV signals)
MESSAGE: That's right Glenn, I play DVD's of vintage tv shows on my restored TV's by using a RF (Radio Frequency) Modulator, which you can buy at Radio Shack.

Here are two pictures, first the Vintage Zenith I'm working on and its chassis and second how the picture looked as I progressed through the capacitor replacement (the recap as vintage TV collectors call it).

By the way, as seen in the picture above the "Giant Circle" Zenith has a picture switch to switch the viewing picture between full circle and standard view mode. In full circle the horizontal gets stretched a bit and you loose a bit of the edge, but Zenith claimed that the most important part of the picture was in the center anyway!

After nearly mastering vintage washer restoration its been a fun new challenge the learn to restore vintage radios and televisions.

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Post# 26558-2/14/2003-18:46 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale (Dream Vintage Television)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg, no even if it does work, it probably wont work for long. I guess my dream vintage television to find would be a 1954 RCA CT-100 or 1954 Motorola or 1954 Westinghouse. These were the very first color television sets ever produced. Unfortunately they go for $1000's because they are so very rare.
LINK: http://www.novia.net/~ereitan/rose_parade.html

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Post# 26559-2/14/2003-19:48 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale (TV signals)
MESSAGE: Uni, How Cool was That!! Please keep us up to date on progress. Looking at those pix I was suddenly 4yrs old again! Our Zenith Combo with HIFI sound (record player) lasted until 1963. The pix tube imploded right after my Aunt Olga walked by it with her hair in curlers. My father did not miss the obvious opportunity to draw a parallel between the two events. The explosion blew the knobs off the side and imbedded glass in the far wall. That was the start of COLOR in our house. My brother and I would delite in having dad on the roof yelling "is this better? (clearer)" as he screwed with the antenna. We of course could keep him up there for a least an hour yelling "almost, wait go back"

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Post# 26560-2/14/2003-19:50 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale (TV signals)
MESSAGE: Robert,
Thanks for the pictures.
Looks like you have been having a great time.
You are so talented!
Brent

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Post# 26561-2/14/2003-19:52 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale (Dream Vintage Television (would you trade?))
MESSAGE: Robert,
Thanks for that interesting link! The history was so cool.
The televisions that are shown are so beautiful!
Now if I found one of those for you, what appliance would you be willing to part with and 'trade' for one?
Just kidding!
Brent

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Post# 26562-2/14/2003-20:10 ||| may63 (Saint Paul, MN)
SUBJECT: Vintage TV Stuff
MESSAGE: Hey does anyone else have memories of going down to the local drugstore to test TV tubes? My Dad and I would pull the suspect tubes out of the malfunctioning TV (or the RCA console stereo for that matter), drive down to Telander's Rex-All drug, and use the tube testing machine to figure out which one had died. He let me do the whole procedure. Ah kids these days, they don't know what they're missing!

Jim

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Post# 26563-2/14/2003-20:58 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage TV Stuff (I remember Jim!)
MESSAGE: I remember that also. Drug stores, and some hardware stores had them in New Orleans. Not long ago, I saw one of those stations in a Goodwill here in Atlanta. I would have bought it, but it was not complete.
I also remember that some of the older smaller stores were kind enough to leave the testing stations up in use as long as you could get the tubs. Lot's of older people wanted to hold on to their tubed sets. Good for them! I remember Zenith testing stations, RCA, and Admiral testing stations. Those testing stations were very high tech for the period. I bet that TV techs that were self employeed hated them!
Brent

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Post# 26564-2/14/2003-21:23 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: FRIGIDAIRE 1-18's (COngrats.. Mark)
MESSAGE: Mark they are beautiful ,They should bring you alot of joy like my MINT Ge combos do!
jon



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Post# 26565-2/14/2003-21:29 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale (TV signals)
MESSAGE: Jason:
I have noticed on my new WEGA TV that the larger picture tube plus the digital design has made the TV alittle ahead of the broadcast curve. It really points out bad broadcasting and poor reception in my area. I see more snow and/or sometimes superior picture from ad to ad and TV show to TV show. This difference in broadcast capability between networks and even shows on the SAME network is not nearly as noticable on my 13 year old SONY TV. Any one else have a similar experience with the new TV's?? IT seems to be it will take some time before the broadcasters and commercial studios catchup to the new digital HDTV standards.
jet

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Post# 26566-2/14/2003-21:38 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage TV Stuff (yes!!)
MESSAGE: Yes Jim I used to do that frequently with our 1967 RCA color set. It was always blowing the same tube and Two Guys had a tube tester you could use and the replacements were right under the machine. You just pulled out a new tube and took them to the check out counter.
I was very surprised to find my new Sony weighs in at 200 pounds!! I expected TV to keep getting lighter not heavier like the sets Robert works on!! Atleast no one will ever steal this set--not at 200 pounds!! HAHAHAH
jet

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Post# 26567-2/14/2003-22:21 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage TV Stuff (Two Guys!)
MESSAGE: You bet I remember going, with my Dad, to the Two Guys on 16th St and Hudson (now JFK) Blvd. in North Bergen, NJ to test tubes, both for our television, and for our stereo. He and my uncle also used to go there to test tubes for my grandmother's television. When Two Guys closed, it became harder and harder for Dad to find a tube tester. It eventually became next to impossible to find tubes. The televisions eventually died and he would up replacing his stereo with one that didn't require tubes. I was pleasantly surprised, during a recent trip to J&R Music World in Manhattan, to see that they're selling at least one stereo system that requires tubes. I couldn't help but wonder "Where would you go to test the tubes?"

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Post# 26568-2/14/2003-22:23 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: FRIGIDAIRE 1-18's (I-18's)
MESSAGE: Congrats. What a wonderful find. Are they Poppy? Never mind, in any color those 1-18's are among my favorite machines!

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Post# 26569-2/14/2003-22:32 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: 1959 Maytag photos
MESSAGE: more pics, (see 40-46) this is a great machine with a lighted interior, fluorescent light back console and another incandescent light behind the timer cycle knob, hope you enjoy ... ...
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gregm978/vwp?.dir=/More+apps&.src=ph&.dnm=Maytag+1959+Before2.gif&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gregm978/lst%3f%26.dir=/More%2bapps%26.src=ph%26.view=t

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Post# 26570-2/14/2003-22:58 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1959 Maytag photos
MESSAGE: That's great Greg! So glad you got that machine! I didn't realize the tub light feature went that far back. I know it lasted at least into the 70s on the TOL models. I wonder if yours was the TOL model in 1959?

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Post# 26571-2/14/2003-23:35 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale (TV signals)
MESSAGE: I bought a 42" plasma panel last September, and it brings out flaws even more. I'm on regular cable for broadcast viewing (which I do very little anyway), and the quality is generally quite good, but if the signal goes wonky for a bit on a particular channel . . . eeek!  DVDs, however, are great!

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Post# 26572-2/14/2003-23:36 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage TV Stuff (yes!!)
MESSAGE: My plasma is about 85 pounds.  :-)

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Post# 26573-2/14/2003-23:49 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale (TV signals)
MESSAGE: Actually I don't watch much TV and what I do watch is vintage so a 1975 25" RCA Colortrak console would be purrrfect for my 70s collection.

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Post# 26574-2/15/2003-00:09 ||| korpben2000 (warren,pa)
SUBJECT: just making a statement
MESSAGE: i think older washers rule,because there cool to watch when they wash and spin and so on.todays washers are ok but there's nothing like older washers

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Post# 26575-2/15/2003-02:06 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale (TV signals)
MESSAGE: Yup, I have that same problem with my Wega.

Louis

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Post# 26576-2/15/2003-02:12 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage TV Stuff
MESSAGE: I still do it!

Well, it's an electronics shop, with a couple of old tube testers, but I've had to use it from time to time when I restore an old radio. Last time I got tubes (about four years ago) most of them were made in Russia.


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Post# 26577-2/15/2003-02:17 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: 1959 Maytag photos
MESSAGE: Greg,

Cool pictures of a nice machine. I love the spray rinse picture! What kind of camera do you use?

Louis

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Post# 26578-2/15/2003-06:24 ||| Richm (Central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1959 Maytag photos
MESSAGE: Greg, Great maytag pictures, brought back memories, my aunt and grandmother had the same washer.
Thanks!
Rich

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Post# 26579-2/15/2003-09:32 ||| kenwashesmonday (Haledon, NJ)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale (Newsflash - Got It!)
MESSAGE: Nice televisions. It takes a brave man to change all those capacititors!! How are you making out with the Zenith's Cobra record changer?

Ken D.

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Post# 26580-2/15/2003-11:55 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale (TV signals)
MESSAGE: Hi Robert! If you need parts for the record changer, I have that model cobra changer if you want it. The red plastic that the speeds etc. is broken, but the mechanical parts are fine. When I re-did my Zenith, I put in a later style cobra changer so I could change the cartridge and get even better sound. I may have a few cartridges that fit that tone arm also if you need those. Looks like a fantastic project!!! Mark


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Post# 26581-2/15/2003-12:00 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: FRIGIDAIRE 1-18's (I-18's)
MESSAGE: no colors.....just beautiful white....with no chips, dings, or scratches! Mark

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Post# 26582-2/15/2003-12:05 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale (TV signals)
MESSAGE: ooooooohhhhhhh Jason! Wouldn't it be great to get one in a console tv/stereo model!!! Lovely Medeteranian, or perhaps Early American....or French Provincial..........or Moderne!!!

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Post# 26583-2/15/2003-12:05 ||| may63 (Saint Paul, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale (TV signals)
MESSAGE: Robert where will you go in town to test the tubes for your new TV and get parts for the stereo? The Needle Doctor near the U?

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Post# 26584-2/15/2003-13:12 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: just making a statement (I agree)
MESSAGE: I am sure I speak for many when I say "I/we agree"........the vintage/older washers were made much better and were very cool, which is fortunately why we have this site........

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Post# 26585-2/15/2003-17:04 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale (Newsflash - Got It!)
MESSAGE: Hi Ken, thanks. I have finished restoring the Radio and Cobramatic record changer. It took two Cobra's to make one good one, I found another one Ebay.

As for the television, all caps are replaced, I just have one pesky little issue left in the AGC circuit which I can't seem to figure out. I'm probably going to have to turn to the guys on rec.phono.radio for advice if I can't figure it out soon.

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Post# 26586-2/15/2003-17:05 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale (TV signals)
MESSAGE: Thanks Mark, I will keep that in mind. I did replace the needle cartridge.

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Post# 26587-2/15/2003-17:09 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Solid tub Filterflo at Mpls Estate Sale (TV signals)
MESSAGE: Hi Jim,

I have my own tube tester along with a signal generator and oscilloscope. It would be next to impossible to restore something like this without them.

Some parts I get at the Vintage Music Store on 38th Avenue South and Cedar. For tubes, capacitors and resistors I turn to Antique Electronic Supply in Phoenix.
LINK: http://www.tubesandmore.com

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Post# 26588-2/15/2003-17:13 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: The '56 General Electric Comes Home
MESSAGE:

Well it took three of us to lift the monster up those thin, rickety stairs but we made it and the machine is home safe and sound. Here are its first pictures...
LINK: http://www.classicappliances.com/TEMP/GE56.jpg

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Post# 26589-2/15/2003-17:56 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1959 Maytag photos (thnx)
MESSAGE: thanks all for your comments on the Maytag photos.........

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Post# 26590-2/15/2003-18:02 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: The '56 General Electric Comes Home (wow)
MESSAGE: Robert, that is so cool, boy, you really find the gems......good for you.........does it work ?? What does the "water saver" button mean/do??......best of luck with it...

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Post# 26591-2/15/2003-18:20 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: The '56 General Electric Comes Home
MESSAGE: Terrific find - you have enough for a "GE Corner" now!

I see the 52 Frigidaire set in the background - did they come back in good shape? I wonder what Julia Robert's fingerprints would go for on Ebay??

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Post# 26592-2/15/2003-18:39 ||| korpben2000 (warren,pa)
SUBJECT: just making a statement
MESSAGE: yes i'am very glad that this website exist because we can look at all the vintage washers and the videos of the good ol days of washing machines and if any one would like to chat my yahoo messenger is korpben_dallas2001 hope to hear from you.

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Post# 26593-2/15/2003-19:05 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: 1959 Maytag photos (Maytag photos )
MESSAGE: Greg,
Real nice Maytag - Best of Luck with it
Peter

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Post# 26594-2/15/2003-19:09 ||| pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: White Frigidaire 1-18 Pair up on ebay! (White Frigidaire 1-18 Pair up on ebay! )
MESSAGE: The dead giveaway for an ersatz 1-18 photograph is the water level indicator, if it shows a jetcone, it's real, if it shows an agitator graphic, it is White/Westinghouse imbred trash.

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Post# 26595-2/15/2003-19:10 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: The '56 General Electric Comes Home ('56 General Electric )
MESSAGE: Robert
This GE is a real Gem
I Love the TV also
Best of Luck
Peter

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Post# 26596-2/15/2003-20:59 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: The '56 General Electric Comes Home ('56 General Electric )
MESSAGE: Awesome looking machine Robert, I would like to see that agitator do the twist!

Larry

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Post# 26597-2/15/2003-21:03 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: White Frigidaire 1-18 Pair up on ebay! (White Frigidaire 1-18 Pair up on ebay! )
MESSAGE: Swish, index, swish, index my clothes ain't clean!
Swish, index, swish, index, I need a better machine!

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Post# 26598-2/15/2003-21:10 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: The '56 General Electric Comes Home ('56 General Electric )
MESSAGE: As sson as I saw the pictures today, I watched the videos of Robert's 58 GE washer again. Virtually the same action as the 56 machines - wonderful machine all around.
LINK: http://classicappliances.com/MUSEUM/General-Electric/Museum-GE.htm

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Post# 26599-2/15/2003-21:40 ||| Brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: The '56 General Electric Comes Home (Beautiful!)
MESSAGE: Robert,
That machine looks mint!
I am so glad that you got it.
Brent

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Post# 26600-2/15/2003-22:01 ||| zzzzz (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: White Frigidaire 1-18 Pair up on ebay! (White Frigidaire 1-18 Pair up on ebay! )
MESSAGE: Another dead giveaway (which I noticed right off the bat) is the lid. The real GM thing had a rectangular lid. A WCI "Fraud-gidaire" lid is convex at the top and bottom, like that of Westinghouse from the same era. The TOL models even had windows in those Westy-style lids!

Pee-yoo!


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Post# 26601-2/15/2003-22:17 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: White Frigidaire 1-18 Pair up on ebay! (White Frigidaire 1-18 Pair up on ebay! )
MESSAGE: Strange I never remember those horrible WCI "Fraud-gidaire's ever having a window! I only remember saying please don't let this be real and hoping I would wake up from the horrible nightmare.
Peter


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Post# 26602-2/15/2003-22:54 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: White Frigidaire 1-18 Pair up on ebay! (White Frigidaire 1-18 Pair up on ebay! )
MESSAGE: Now I see the photo of the agitator. Clearly not the 1-18 GM designed.
-Alex
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/ebayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewItem&item=2308066151&indexURL=2&photoDisplayType=2

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Post# 26603-2/15/2003-23:03 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: White Frigidaire 1-18 Pair up on ebay! (White Frigidaire 1-18 Pair up on ebay! )
MESSAGE: I also only remember they had white plastic tubs, I am surprised this one had a porclein tub?
Peter

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Post# 26604-2/16/2003-03:24 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: The '56 General Electric Comes Home
MESSAGE: Robert,

That's a very pretty machine. Actually I think this one deserves a matching dryer! BTW, I know one of the Bostonian members is very jealous.....

Louis

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Post# 26605-2/16/2003-03:27 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: The '56 General Electric Comes Home (Julia Roberts movie)
MESSAGE: I forgot about that movie. I would love to see that movie, especially with my friends so I can tell them that I touched that same washer as Julia is using. Does somebody already know what the title of that movie is going to be?

Louis

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Post# 26606-2/16/2003-07:03 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: youngstown,GE,KitchenAid , any make. Top Load dishwashers
MESSAGE: I just realized I have a huge interest in vintage dishwashers esp. top loaders. Can anyone send me any info or pic's of these machines. I can not get enough . I will hopefully purchase one for a breakfast bar I am building im my kitchen. Not sure what was ever made sooooo not sure which kind to even dream about. Kitchen Aid electra I have never seen., Youngstown have never seen .... Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Michael

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Post# 26607-2/16/2003-07:14 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: The '56 General Electric Comes Home (Julia Roberts movie)
MESSAGE: I believe the title is something like "Mona Lisa Smile". Don't know when it will be released though.....

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Post# 26608-2/16/2003-07:18 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: youngstown,GE,KitchenAid , any make. Top Load dishwashers
MESSAGE: Mike, always keep an eye out on eBay, for these machine will show up from time to time! I wish you the best of luck and there are some members that will direct you to their photo albums.

Larry

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Post# 26609-2/16/2003-07:20 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: The '56 General Electric Comes Home (Julia Roberts movie)
MESSAGE: I will be released later on this year......
LINK: http://movies.go.com/movies/M/monalisasmile_2003/

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Post# 26610-2/16/2003-08:41 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: The '56 General Electric Comes Home (1956 GE----- Boy!!)
MESSAGE: Boy, Robert does that ever bring back a feeling of home!!
All the Saturday mornings all my friends would come over to get me to play and they all knew to come down to the basement to fetch me because I was watching a wash go thru our '56 GE.

I forgot it says "FilterFLo" on the front!! Nancy Smith had a 1953 GE and she was the first person to get a dryer in our neighborhood!! She got the match to our machine. Our green dial light had been out so long that I had forgotten the machine had a light until I saw her dryer running.

My first bike had copper trim, it reminded me of the washer!!
We still had the washer but it was as if I was driving around the neighborhood in a washing machine.

My friends noticed that our machine had the fastest spin in the neighborhood--well everybody else had a Whirlpool or Kenmore. Of course it did.
That is the machine that took off in spin one day and was headed right across the floor shimmying on all four legs headed right for the furnace, I screamed for my mother and she tore down the stairs and forgetting completely about the "OFF" button she YANKED the cord out of the ceiling lightbulb just before it was about to slam into the furnace. High Drama was that machine.

I had noticed the spin spray on the Dougie Cusano's Whirlpool so that was something new to me. I went home and on the next spin of the 56 GE I placed the drain hose into the tub!! TALK ABOUT SPIN SPRAY!!!

We should have never thrown that machine out!

I am glad you have such a beautiful example, that machine left us alot of early memories.........

jetcone



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Post# 26611-2/16/2003-08:46 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1959 Maytag photos (Maytag photos (thnx))
MESSAGE: thanks Peter !!!!

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Post# 26612-2/16/2003-09:43 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: 56 & 55 GE's
MESSAGE: Great machine, Robert. My old 55 had the same agitator except on the 55 the agitator cap was aqua instead of black. And it had two separate cycles. Normal in black letters with up to 15 min wash and a short cycle in red letters with a 3 min wash time.

Let us know how she runs.

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Post# 26613-2/16/2003-09:50 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: The '56 General Electric Comes Home (GE water saver button)
MESSAGE: I can answer this question because my old 55 GE also had this feature. On the old GE's rather than having separate water level settings, if you wanted to wash a small load you waited till the tub had reached the desired amount of water then you pushed this button and it would start the agitation. The only problem is the filter flo function would not work on small loads because, since these machines have solid tubs, the water didn't pour over into the outer tub to recirculate thru the filter flo system. The machine instructions recommended not to run the machine with the water level any lower than the small ring-like notch on the agitator which you can see in Robert's pic of his new 56. It's a ring about 3/4 of the way up the activator post.

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Post# 26614-2/16/2003-10:15 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: Test pilot
MESSAGE: little message



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Post# 26615-2/16/2003-10:27 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: White Frigidaire 1-18 Pair up on ebay! (White Frigidaire 1-18 Pair up on ebay! )
MESSAGE: Also, the lid is a giveaway on the Ebay one. The lid is the one Westinghouse used on their toploaders for years. There are some other differences in the cabinet, and the dryer doors are somewhat different too.

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Post# 26616-2/16/2003-12:13 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Washing Machine Wonderland, Here I Come!
MESSAGE: Look what I found! It is in Kalamazoo, MI! Only 1 hour and 47 minutes away from me!You can see in the pic, on the left there are a lot of stoves then on that same side there is a whole row of washers and dryers! I hope to purchase at least a washer! My mom says that I can get one if I can pay for it! She wants to get a dryer to go with it if anything, so she might purchase that for me! They will deliver into your home! (I called and asked) This has got to be one of the best things that has ever happened to me! Well, the Convention and finding this sight are beyond better, but, my own washer and dryer set, full size! This is the best thing ever! I am going on Monday or Tuesday, (this coming) because there is no school! My mom is letting get these for my good report card! You never no, I might find a 1-18 set! Or maybe a Mini-Basket, maybe a Maytag set!, What ever I get, I want in a wild cool color, I am mostly looking for Avacado though. I am sooooooooo excited! Geeze, I think that this is the longest post that I have ever written!, Better print it. :-) :-) :-)
LINK: http://www.tedsappliance.com/showroom.html

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Post# 26617-2/16/2003-14:07 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Washing Machine Wonderland, Here I Come!
MESSAGE: What a GREAT find! It looks too good to be true. Be sure to ask them about repairs. It would be a shame if you spent a lot of money only to find out that it doesn't work when you get it home! Wouldn't it be great if you could find an I-18 in Avocado or Poppy? (My parents had a 1971/1972 vintage Frigidaire refrigerator in Avocado. It's one of my favorite colors too.!) You might even get lucky enough to find an GE Filter Flo or Maytag from the 1960's in turquoise, which is another favorite color of mine.


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Post# 26618-2/16/2003-14:56 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Washing Machine Wonderland, Here I Come! (wow)
MESSAGE: thats great Jamie !!, hope you find what your looking for....

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Post# 26619-2/16/2003-15:00 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: youngstown,GE,KitchenAid , any make. Top Load dishwashers (Top Loading Dishwashers)
MESSAGE: My parents have a top loading "vari-cycle" Kitchen Aid that was purchased new in 1969. It's a great machine. Since they live alone and no longer entertain, they only use it when the grandchildren come to visit. The timer dial sticks and has to be advanced by hand in order to advance to the rinse cycle, but other than it still gets the job done well. The device that attaches the hoses to the faucet has had to be replaced a couple of times. Every time it fails, its always in the middle of a cycle, and hot water sprays all over the kitchen. It has a fine mesh filter that has to be cleaned periodically. When my two siblings and I lived at home, the filter had to be cleaned once or twice a month. It can be messy job, especially if you let it go to long between cleanings. The top rack is attached to the lid and raises automatically when you open the machine. It has three cycles "normal", "utility utensil" and "rinse and hold". It has a single wash arm that's best described as "x-shaped". The "utility utensil" cycle is the pots and pans cycle. You can't use the top rack when you wash pots and pans in the bottom rack because they block most of the spray. The wash action of the "utility utensil" cycle is more vigorous (sp?) then on the normal cycle. The heating element for the dryer is located at the bottom of the tub, under the wash arm and doesn't turn on during the "utility utensil" cycle. There is a blower that operates during the drying cycle. Unless you manually advance it, and before it started sticking, the timer dial continued to advance to "off" at the end of the rinse and hold and "utility utensil" cycles. They still have the manual. I can add that to the list of things that I can try to scan and post here. It's a very noisy machine. You can't help but notice when it's running.


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Post# 26620-2/16/2003-16:19 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: youngstown,GE,KitchenAid , any make. Top Load dishwashers (Top Loading Dishwashers)
MESSAGE: To both Mikes, I too love the old DW, especially the TOP-LOAD and better yet, the portables.......... a late fifties.......early sixties Kitchen Aid is one of my dream machines........... The 1970 Whirlpool that I have does a great job, even with burnt on, stuck on stuff, no rinsing needed. The GE Mobile Maid needs pre-rinsing, and very HOT water to do a thorough job, whereas it has an impeller (looks like a fan blade) in the bottom instead of a spray arm. Both are clearly noisy. The GE machine needs some work, but I have consulted with some very helpful people in my area and plan on redoing the interior, along with replacing the fill and drain hoses.......

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Post# 26621-2/16/2003-18:55 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: youngstown,GE,KitchenAid , any make. Top Load dishwashers (Top Loading Dishwashers)
MESSAGE: Hey Greg,

My parents' KitchenAid top loader replaced a 1959 LK top loader that had an impeller.The impeller had to keep be replaced. I'm guessing that it kept being damaged by the occasional piece of stray silverware getting caught, at the right angle, between the impeller and the bottom rack. Dishes had to be rinsed before loading. The top rack had two sections, which moved on rollers along a track. You had to remove one section, and move the remaining section along the track, in order to gain access to the bottom rack. The tines on the botton rack were set up such that the plates, etc. were loaded in a cicular fashion around the impeller. The silverware basket, which mom still has, didn't hold very much and was located at the center of the circle.

My parents got a dishwasher before they got a washer. (The washer, a Maytag, didn't arrive until 1961.) Mom said that there was a laundromat around the corner from our apartment. My younger brother was still in diapers at the time that we got the dishwasher. Go figure!

Mike

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Post# 26622-2/16/2003-20:14 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: Top Loading Portable Dryer
MESSAGE: My mom is very anti-dryer. She still doesn't own one. She uses a clothesline.

One of my aunts was the first person that I knew who had a "real" dryer. (you'll see why I use the term "real" later on in this post.) Mom and her other sisters (all of whom now own dryers -- mom is the last hold out) used to make fun of it. They used to say things like "it wrinkles clothes", "it shrinks everything", "clothes don't smell as nice", etc., etc. Mom still feels that way. She's 78 and VERY set in her ways!

In spite of her objections, mom did own a VERY unusual portable dryer for a very brief period in her life. She used it on rainy days, mostly to dry diapers. She actually got the dryer before she got a dishwasher or a washer. (She got a dishwasher before she got a washer!) She used to use the laundromat around the corner from our apartment. (She had three kids under the age of six at the time!) The laundromat had sixteen washers and four dryers. There used to be a very long line for the dryers on rainy days. Until she got a washer (a 1961 Maytag), she used to bring the wet laundry home and hang it out to dry.

As I said before, mom did own a very unusual dryer at one time. It was portable and loaded from the top. It was electric and plugged into a regular outlet. It had a fan and an heating element at the bottom of the cabinet. The fan and heating element were covered by a screen. You used to put one or two items of wet laundry (folded to fit if necessary) on the screen. The rest of the wet laundry was draped over or around a removable u-shaped rack that was located on the back wall of the dryer. There also was an unmarked timer dial, above the rack, on the inside of the dryer. The fan used to force the lid to open (only by a couple of inches) and close (that's how it vented! Mom used to put it in front of an open window) when the dryer was used. You could hear the thud of the closing lid more or less continuously. Talk about noise! I seem to recall that it was very heavy. I have no idea what held the clothes in place during a drying cycle. The fan created enough wind to open the the very heavy lid so you would think that the laundry would have gone flying all over the place! I don't remember that being a problem. Mom hates dryers so much that she gave it to a neighbor (who had twin daughters in diapers) as soon as my sister was toilet trained. My parents eventually bought a house and I never saw the dryer or the neighbor again.

I've never seen a similar dryer anywhere. I have no idea who made it. (I was probably about seven when she gave it away.) I assume that it's very rare. Has anyone ever seem something like this or have any idea who the manufacturer was?

Thanks!

Mike

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Post# 26623-2/17/2003-01:31 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: The '56 General Electric Comes Home
MESSAGE: Oh ROBERT!!! such memories. The GE washer that replaced the Bendix (to keep me out of the washer) looked exactly like this, but with a couple of differences. It didn't have filter-flo. And it didn't have filter-flo on the front chrome strip. There was a little light behind the timer dial (rather than the red pointer only) that illuminated the cycle selection. Also, our instruction lid said 8-9 lbs. of clothes. I do not remember it stating 10 pounds anywhere. I still vividly remember the smell of the turqaoise "automatic Washer" logo on the front chrome strip. It had a very pleasant, calmin smell (maybe too much Rinso Blue). I wish someone could pinpoint whether my machine was a 55 or 56 model.

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Post# 26624-2/17/2003-01:38 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: The '56 General Electric Comes Home
MESSAGE: Luigi, I think someone around here did have the matching dryer and sent it to the krusher. Also, there's a former Houstonian member here that's very jealous of this early childhood washer (sans the filter-flo). I think this one will need a hug next time I'm in Minnie.

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Post# 26625-2/17/2003-01:45 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: The '56 General Electric Comes Home (1956 GE----- Boy!!)
MESSAGE: Jon, thanks for affirming my memory of the green dial light. Our's too burned out over time. Then in 1962 or 1963 the machine needed some tinkering with it for some reason and my dad got another bulb to put in it, much to my surprise and delight, because it had burned out before my intense consciousness of it. Oh yes, Drama. I remember washing bathmat and throw rugs in there. What a lot of sloshing and swaing around of water in the tub during "activation".

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Post# 26626-2/17/2003-01:48 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Test pilot
MESSAGE: Rats, I just smelled the screen where the emblem is, no smell from childhood.

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Post# 26627-2/17/2003-01:59 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Washing Machine Wonderland, Here I Come!
MESSAGE: Best of luck Jamie. I can't wait to her what you end up with. And did I see an avocado refrigeraor in one of the pics????? Bob

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Post# 26628-2/17/2003-07:09 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The '56 General Electric Comes Home (Water Saver)
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg and everyone the Water Saver button is simply pressed to stop the fill and start the agitation, its like a manual water level control. I wont be sure if the machine works or not until I get it in the basement which might not happen for a week or two. But I will keep everyone posted.

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Post# 26629-2/17/2003-08:08 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Those DIRTY Rings (take a stab at the dryer brand for Wisk commercial)
MESSAGE: Is that a Hamilton dryer there Robert?

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Post# 26630-2/17/2003-08:28 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: Connection Speed
MESSAGE: I love the jet cone in the washer on the home page. I can get a feeling for connection speed by the speed of the pulses. Sometimes I can even watch it shift speeds! (boy do I need a life, or what?)

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Post# 26631-2/17/2003-09:16 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: The '56 General Electric Comes Home
MESSAGE: We had a 55 filter flo and I can direct you to a photo of it's matching dryer. Go to the member link section and click on "pumper" - phoenix appliance graveyard. Then go to image 027.
The aqua-blue timer also had a light the illuminated it. I remember how cool it looked glowing in our dark basement.

I don't believe the 56 Robert just acquired is the top-of-the-line model from 56 because my old 55 had a cold water wash option and separate controls for wash and rinse temp as well as two separate cycles on the timer.

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Post# 26632-2/17/2003-09:50 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: youngstown,GE,KitchenAid , any make. Top Load dishwashers (Top Loading Dishwashers(old impellers))
MESSAGE: Mike, I heard those old impellers made of bakelite use to break alot and sometimes would even break other dishes with pieces flying around. My Mobile Maid has a steel impeller with a mesh guard over it. Obviously one of the last models where they caught on and were trying to eliminate those problems........

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Post# 26633-2/17/2003-09:53 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Top Loading Portable Dryer
MESSAGE: never heard of or seen a dryer like this, pretty funny though, would be funny at the thought of clothes flying out of there when you lift the lid...........

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Post# 26634-2/17/2003-11:22 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The '56 General Electric Comes Home
MESSAGE: Hi Lesto, GE didn't start having a cold water wash until the 1959 line and the dryer pictured in image 027 is a '59 or '60 model.

The '56 washer I have I'm sure was the only model GE produced that year.

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Post# 26635-2/17/2003-12:58 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Connection Speed
MESSAGE: It's actually a flash animation that downloads before it starts working. I would guess the speed of the pulses are due to how fast your computer can display the animation, not by the speed of the download. If your connection was slow, it would take longer for the animation to start working.

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Post# 26636-2/17/2003-12:58 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Washing Machine Wonderland, Here I Come!
MESSAGE: Yeah, I saw it too. I wish I could go.

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Post# 26637-2/17/2003-15:44 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Connection Speed
MESSAGE: I'm on a T1 here at work and I get a Unimatic 330 ppm when I access our beloved website, but at home on AOL dialing in at 28.8, I get Pulsamatic 660 ppm.

-ph

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Post# 26638-2/17/2003-15:53 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Married with Children
MESSAGE: Last night was the reunion show of Married With Children. There were lots of shots of their beautiful avocado LK set. But at one point, Peg jumps Al for sex, and a number of provocative scenes flash by indicating the action that is taking place, such as a rocket blasing off and a train going thru a tunnel. However, one of the euphemistic scenes was a Unimatic pulsing away. I think it was a 57, gray pulsator column with a gray cap.

-ph

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Post# 26639-2/17/2003-17:03 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: The '56 General Electric Comes Home (6 Models in '56)
MESSAGE: There were six models of the "N" (1956) series - all similar in appearance but with minor changes to the trim and controls. There was a model, 1WA755N with two cycles (delicate and normal) and independent selection for rinse temp (warm and cold) and a suds-saver (water return) option.

1955 models were similar in appearance (including the FilterFlo according to GE manuals) to the 1956, but model numbers would include "M5" instead of "N" designations.



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Post# 26640-2/17/2003-17:18 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Those DIRTY Rings (take a stab at the dryer brand for Wisk commercial)
MESSAGE: With a Sun-E-Day lamp too!

A family at our church had this same dryer and I swooned over that huge window, what a glamorous way to dry clothes!

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Post# 26641-2/17/2003-17:24 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Married with Children
MESSAGE: I saw the ads for that during the 300th episode of the Simpsons and watched some of it - but I apparently missed the best part! I always liked catching a glimpse of that washer & dryer - the washer would be in MINT condition since Peg only ever dried the clothes!

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Post# 26642-2/17/2003-18:24 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: 1/18's (years by model #'s ??)
MESSAGE: The two most recent 1/18's I found are practically identical. The ONLY difference is on the variable water fill, one machine shows the little jetcone symbol below, one model is a "WC" and the other is a "WIB", there are no dates anywhere on the machine, but I am guessing late seventies..........

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Post# 26643-2/17/2003-19:08 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: The '56 General Electric Comes Home (Question about the water saver button)
MESSAGE: On Robert's model with the water saver....
When you started the wash by using this function, was the rinse also the same water level as selected from the wash?
Just Curious.
Thanks
Brent

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Post# 26644-2/17/2003-19:37 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1/18's (years by model #'s ??)
MESSAGE: Are the location of the lid switches the same on both models?

The WC is a 1976 or 77 and the WIB is a 79 (second one down in the linked photo)

Have you tried them yet? Congrats on the exciting finds you've made - that Maytag is identical to my long lost turquoise '63, beautiful machine!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/threeringagitator/vwp?.dir=/1979+Frigidaire+Washer+Line&.dnm=Page+3.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t

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Post# 26645-2/17/2003-20:00 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: The '56 General Electric Comes Home (6 Models in '56 (gansky1))
MESSAGE: Greg, could yo mail me copies of the below-mentioned documentation that spells out the different models for'55 & '56, I'd love to figure out which washer we had. And is there dryer info too (just for my info?)? Bob

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Post# 26646-2/17/2003-20:03 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: The '56 General Electric Comes Home (Question about the water saver button)
MESSAGE: No Brent, if you wanted to have the smae lower-water level for the rinse as wash, you had to run and attend to the machine manually again. However, in our house, since my used Sat-Puf, she'd do it when she added the softener if needed. But she RARELY ever used water saver button. A load could wait until a full load was accumulated in that case.

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Post# 26647-2/17/2003-20:12 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: The '56 General Electric Comes Home (6 Models in '56 (gansky1))
MESSAGE: Hi Bob -

All I have are listings of model numbers in the book for '56 and what I posted was just a brief summary of the three paragraphs explaining the changes. With the exception of the suds-saver & selectable rinse temp model, the other changes were just cosmetic but they don't explain those in any detail. Do you know the model number of the one you had?

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Post# 26648-2/17/2003-20:42 ||| thegreatfixer (Los Angeles Ca)
SUBJECT: brand new Caloric rsp 369
MESSAGE: hi there this is the greatfixer and i just came across a brand new (never been used) in perfect condition i am trying to find more info on this one am thinking of buying it but i am not sure if the mecanical clock will still run right after sitting for ??? so many years i know on some of the old ones when the when the clock stops runing or the control panel starts shorting out you can unplug it and still use all of the range but i don't know anything about this one and if it will run without the timer/control pluged in. any advice thank you zvi@thegreatfixer.com

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Post# 26649-2/17/2003-20:47 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: youngstown,GE,KitchenAid , any make. Top Load dishwashers (Top Loading Dishwashers(old impellers))
MESSAGE: The GE Mobile Maid I had , had a steel impeller BUT no guard. It did a fine job and to be honest we , not that I can remember, lost anything do to things falling down on the impeller. I sure wish I still had it . Michael

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Post# 26650-2/17/2003-21:13 ||| David (bossier city, La)
SUBJECT: RE: The '56 General Electric Comes Home (Question about the water saver button)
MESSAGE: Hi Bob-thanks for the greeting last thursday(you too, Jason!). I've been busy lately with another matter. I had an aunt who had a pair of these beauties in pink. Well they are long gone, unfortunately, but I still can remember the smell of Tide or Rinso Blue and the little copper filter pan, the lighted dial(at least the one on the dryer worked). Oh memories! I don't exactly remember the water saver button, but this model may have been different or a 55. General Electrics were always cool machines with the filter-flo feature. But that had to change much like frigidaire did- for the worse. I got a charge out of everyone's comment on the frigidaire in the ebay the other day, right on!

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Post# 26651-2/17/2003-21:40 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: The '56 General Electric Comes Home (1956 GE----- Lots of sway!!!!!!)
MESSAGE: Oh yes Bob ours had alot of sway too with bath mats in it! The suds swayed back and forth in the tub to the beat of Santana " YOu've got to change your evil ways,baby"!!!!

jet

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Post# 26652-2/17/2003-21:45 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: The '56 General Electric Comes Home (Question about the water saver button)
MESSAGE: No Brent the rinse level was not set by pushing the button in wash. You had to be there at the rinse to save water and push it again.
It was just a switch that by passes the float sensor down in the bottom of the outer tub.
jon

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Post# 26653-2/17/2003-22:05 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: The '56 General Electric Comes Home (Question about the water saver button)
MESSAGE: Hi, David. I am the other part of the New Orleans Duo. Now Jason and I will have another delegate at the next Louisiana Wash-in. Yeah!

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Post# 26654-2/17/2003-22:20 ||| kenwashesmonday (Haledon, NJ)
SUBJECT: RE: brand new Caloric rsp 369 (Clocks)
MESSAGE: If an old electric clock makes noise when it runs, an old trick is to run it upside-down for a few days. This redistributes the oil.

Ken D.

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Post# 26655-2/17/2003-22:21 ||| david (bossier city, La)
SUBJECT: RE: The '56 General Electric Comes Home (Question about the water saver button)
MESSAGE: Hi Todd, sounds like fun. Will have to check it out!

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Post# 26656-2/17/2003-23:25 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: Twin Laundry Tubs, with a Washer/Wringer Machine sitting on Top:
MESSAGE: Hi! Club members, I wondered if anyone remembers a Washer/Wringer unit that sat on top of the Twin Laundry Tubs, actually with the Wringer part of it sitting across the divider of the Tubs? It was called "Lil' Giant" or possibly "Little Giant" and it was a Light/Medium Green. The Mechanism sat with the shaft on the bottom of the unit and the Agitator was bolted to the shaft. The bottom of the Agitator sat about 1-inch above the bottom of the Laundry Tub. There was a Timer similar to an Egg Timer that counted down Timing for the Washing Action and then you had to slide a lever to disengage the Agitator and engaged the Wringer. The Motor made this kind of rumbling noise when the Agitator was in the idle stage, while Wringing the Clothes. We had to use a Broom Handle to get the Clothes out of the Hot Sudsy Wash Water, to put into the Wringer, towards the other Tub for the Rinse and to manually agitate the Clothes around in the Rinse Water, then reverse the Wringer's to Wring the Clothes out again, getting them ready to hang out on the Clothes Line. This was actually in a Cabin of some Family Friends in the Mountains towards the Lake Tahoe area. We had to move the whole Mechanism forward in order to fill the Tubs with Water, then slide it back to get it set into position to do the Laundry.

I would really appreciate it if anyone remembers these Washer/Wringer Machines and if you might know the whereabouts of one For Sale. If you have any info please either contact me on this Site or you can contact me on my E-Mail Address of:

SactoTeddyBear@aol.com

I look forward in hearing from someone hopefully soon with some info about these Machines and memory, as I remmeber them.

My best to you all, Steve
"aka" SactoTeddyBear...

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Post# 26657-2/18/2003-00:57 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: The '56 General Electric Comes Home (6 Models in '56 (gansky1))
MESSAGE: No I don't. Al I know / remember was it looked like Roberts, but had a green little light behind the dial; 8-9 pound or 9-10 pound wash load; and no filter-flo.

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Post# 26658-2/18/2003-07:38 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Those football family PODs
MESSAGE: This must've been a common theme for those ads back then.

"My football family knows how to get clothes real dirty, but my gets them clean!" Haven't we seen this in Kelvinator, Philco, Gibson, a few of the Franklin built machines.

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Post# 26659-2/18/2003-07:47 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: The '56 General Electric Comes Home (6 Models in '56 (gansky1))
MESSAGE: Perhaps you had a 55 model, I wish I had more of the service manuals from GE for the earlier years to know for sure. I have '56 washers (no dryers), 57 dryers and 58 washers and dryers. Since the 56 manual said the machines carried a similar appearance and the filter-flo over from the 55 "M5" series, it would lead me to think that the filter-flo was introduced late in the 55 model year. Anyone out there have earlier books from 55?

I have a bunch of service bulletins - changes and additions to service procedures and products from GE so I will check those to see if I have more information on the 55 line tonight.

Have a good day - Greg



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Post# 26660-2/18/2003-08:25 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: POD
MESSAGE: Has anyone ever been brave enough to try and track down "Mrs. Downy of Sudsblock, NY" whose names were in these ads? It would be interesting to see if they really existed and if they got some lifetime supply of Philco washers or soap, etc.

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Post# 26661-2/18/2003-08:32 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The '56 General Electric Comes Home (6 Models in '56)
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg! I had no idea GE made so many models that early. Its strange that the '56 GE washer advertisements that I have seem to show the model that was just found at the estate sale, since it appears there were other models that were higher up on the line.

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Post# 26662-2/18/2003-08:33 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The '56 General Electric Comes Home (Question about the water saver button)
MESSAGE: Hi Brent, nope you had to press the water saver button again during the rinse if you wanted a lower water level.

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Post# 26663-2/18/2003-08:42 ||| Curious (Michgian)
SUBJECT: Westinghouse Freezer
MESSAGE: I just bought a house and in the basement is a Westinghouse Freezer. It is a wooden case with a stainless steel door at the top. It has a shelf and a pull out "box" inside. I'm trying to find out some info on this and can't find anything. If anyone has any info they can share I would appreciate it!

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Post# 26664-2/18/2003-08:45 ||| Curious (Michgian)
SUBJECT: Westinghouse Freezer
MESSAGE: I just bought a house and in the basement is a Westinghouse Freezer. It is a wooden case with a stainless steel door at the top. It has a shelf and a pull out "box" inside. I'm trying to find out some info on this and can't find anything. If anyone has any info they can share I would appreciate it!

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Post# 26665-2/18/2003-10:07 ||| washerlover (northern California)
SUBJECT: Appliance Graveyard
MESSAGE: Hi,

After reading Jamie's message about finding a treasure trove of old appliances in Michigan, does anyone know of a place like that in California? I'm up in northern California but will travel to locate the perfect machine!

Hope to hear from someone soon,

Thanks,

Todd

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Post# 26666-2/18/2003-10:38 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1/18's (years by model #'s ??) (link did not work?)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg,

The lid safety switch is part of the hinge on the lid on one and is in back in the middle on the other.......cords were cut, so I have not tried them out, need to attach new cords. Thanks for the helpful info..........would love to see the link when you get it fixed and I love the Maytag too.........

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Post# 26667-2/18/2003-12:35 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1/18's (years by model #'s ??) (try this)
MESSAGE: Try this link. The WIB is on page 3.

-ph
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/threeringagitator/lst?.dir=/1979+Frigidaire+Washer+Line&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/

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Post# 26668-2/18/2003-16:56 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: The '56 General Electric Comes Home (6 Models in '56)
MESSAGE: It sounded like there was only the one model with the additional features, the others might have been just changes in trim, etc. I think Jimmy (FilterFlo) said that his mother had a 56 model with the suds saver feature. He has a set of '56's now I think, so we'll have to see which model he has for sure.

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Post# 26669-2/18/2003-17:00 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1/18's (years by model #'s ??) (link did not work?)
MESSAGE: The lid switch was moved from the hinge to the back of the opening in '79. Keep on the lookout for the WEG model in your travels - we must find one of those one day!

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Post# 26670-2/18/2003-17:20 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Early 60's Maytag set on Ebay
MESSAGE: Beautiful set in Oregon - looks in nice condition too.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2404278328&category=6755

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Post# 26671-2/18/2003-17:39 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: POD
MESSAGE: A couple of months ago, I actually took the time do a search for the name and hometown of a family that had been featured in POD Tide and Kelvinator ad. I found a listing for someone who had the same first and last name of one of the children in the ad. I let it go at that. I'm not sure that I would want someone to contact me and say that they had gotten my name and hometown from ad that my family had appeared in while I was a mere toddler. ;-) I did think that it was kind of neat to discover that that someone, with the same name, actually lived in the town where the family in the ad was supposed to have lived!

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Post# 26672-2/18/2003-17:50 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Those football family PODs
MESSAGE: I noticed that too. I've also noticed that most football families seem to have owned Philco's and Kelvinator's. Although its nice to see ads for those very rare brands, I always have to laugh because no one that I new owned one of those. (Just about everyone that I knew had a Maytag. You could count the exceptions -- a GE filter flow, a Norge Time Line, two Frigidaire pulsators, and a Bendix combo -- on one hand!)

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Post# 26673-2/18/2003-18:01 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: 1/18's (years by model #'s ??) (WOW!)
MESSAGE: OMG! Pinch me! I must be dreaming! According to the instruction booklet, the 1969 model WXP had a variable speed clutch, a storage cabinet & dispensers. All that and jetcone action too! Wow! I can't stop drooling.

Thanks for the link.

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Post# 26674-2/18/2003-18:05 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Washing Machine Wonderland, Here I Come!
MESSAGE: I'm just dying from the suspense! Did you get to go yet Jaime? Do you find anything? I hope so and can't wait to hear all the details!

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Post# 26675-2/18/2003-19:56 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The '56 General Electric Comes Home (1958)
MESSAGE: I looked through my GE stuff and found this interesting tidbit on the 1958 GE Washer Line...
LINK: http://www.classicappliances.com/TEMP/1985-GE-WASHERLINE.pdf

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Post# 26676-2/18/2003-20:21 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: I just got back from the wonderland...
MESSAGE: I got it! I got a machine! Let me tell you, it was a wonderful wonderland, they had Penta-Vanes, and Swirls galore! They had all kinds of 80's Maytags,Ge mini- baskets, Hotpoint double agitators and everything! They had two Portables, a Kenmore, and a Lady Kenmore... I got the Lady Kenmore Portable!!!!!!!!!!!! It has the same interior as Jason L's washer, but it has three water levels, three temps, and four wash cycles! It is a beauty! They tuned it up and let me test run it! It is VERY strong and it spins really fast, they said that it is faster than a commercial spin drier, and they weren't kiding. It is so cute! But, I am changing the agitator to a Whirlpool Thin Twin Surgialtor, It switched just fine and should be delivered by Thursday. I am soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo excited!

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Post# 26677-2/18/2003-20:33 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: I just got back from the wonderland...
MESSAGE: That's wonderful Jamie! I did not realize what a unique design that was until Jason got his and I found out more about it from Leslie. Enjoy!

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Post# 26678-2/18/2003-20:39 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: I just got back from the wonderland...
MESSAGE: WhooooHoooo!!  Jackpot!  You'll have sooooo much fun with it!

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Post# 26679-2/18/2003-20:56 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: I just got back from the wonderland... (I just got back from the wonderland... )
MESSAGE: That's just Great Jamie
I wish we were all in washer land all day every day!
Peter

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Post# 26680-2/18/2003-21:00 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: I just got back from the wonderland... (YAY!)
MESSAGE: Another vintage washer in the collection.

That washer's built like a tank and it will run all day without a problem.

It spins at 850rpm. It's real fast.

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Post# 26681-2/18/2003-21:06 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: I just got back from the wonderland... (How Wonderful!!)
MESSAGE: Wow that's wonderful Jamie, you'll have to let us know what you think of your new machine. I bet you're going to have lots of fun. It would have been a dream come true for me to have my own washer when I was your age!

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Post# 26682-2/18/2003-21:28 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: I just got back from the wonderland... (How Wonderful!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Jamie, I am very happy for you. I am sure that you can hardly wait till Thursday. Be sure and let us know all about it when it arrives. Terry

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Post# 26683-2/18/2003-21:29 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: The '56 General Electric Comes Home (Question about the water saver button (Thanks Guys!))
MESSAGE: Thanks for the information about the water saver button.
I guess it gave the housewife, and husbands that did the laundy one more excuse to watch the washer!
Brent

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Post# 26684-2/18/2003-21:30 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: The '56 General Electric Comes Home (1958 (Thanks Robert))
MESSAGE: That was so interesting.
I never knew that there was a GE set with the towers like that.
Do you think they were trying to copy Frigidaire?
I like that set! Very interesting to me.
Brent

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Post# 26685-2/18/2003-21:31 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: I just got back from the wonderland... (How Wonderful! Congrats!)
MESSAGE: What a great find! You're going to have so much fun with it. You are one lucky young man. I wish I had my own machine to play with when I was you're age. Enjoy!

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Post# 26686-2/18/2003-21:32 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: I just got back from the wonderland... (That sounds like fun!)
MESSAGE: Congrats Jamie!
I am so happy to hear how happy you are!
Your mom is so cool!!!!
Interesting to hear that washer spun that fast. I had no idea.
I would have loved a set for MY BEDROOM to play with when I was your age!
I had to play with our machine when my Mom and Dad was not at home!
I hope you have lot's of fun!
Brent


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Post# 26687-2/18/2003-21:35 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Early 60's Maytag set on Ebay (Beautiful Set!!)
MESSAGE: That sure looks like a beautiful Maytag set, in the picture it looks pink but not sure about that. Dan,(bendix5) you just may be close enough to check this set out.

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Post# 26688-2/18/2003-21:48 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: The '56 General Electric Comes Home (6 Models in '56)
MESSAGE: Probably to peak Mrs. Housewife's interest, come into the store, and see if they could sell her a higher-end model.

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Post# 26689-2/18/2003-22:05 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: I just got back from the wonderland...
MESSAGE: Jamie!!! Terrific news. I'm so happy you saved a LIttle Lady Kenmore. Bob

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Post# 26690-2/18/2003-22:24 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: I just got back from the wonderland... (That sounds like fun!)
MESSAGE: Brent, that was the only time I could play with the washer too was when the parents were gone, as well as the sisters.

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Post# 26691-2/19/2003-03:53 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: I just got back from the wonderland...
MESSAGE: Congratulations Jamie,

Enjoy this washer, those washers are cute. Ofcourse after the first few washes we want a full report!!! Have fun!

Louis

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Post# 26692-2/19/2003-05:45 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: jamie congrats on your new purchase
MESSAGE: Jamie
When I was your age I was consider wierd by my family so its so nice to see you have parents that are that cool. I to could only play with washers when my mother would not notice.

As for the Frigidaire with the storage my Aunt had one and it was so cool my uncle was an engineer for Frigidaire and they remodeled thier kitchen to all top of the line. As far as family washers my grandmother only had kelvinators with the window. my other aunts had frigidaires, maytags, kenmore, GE filter flo whirlpool, easy spinners, westinghouse front loaders, a few of my aunts did not mind me lifting the lid to watch. In fact when I was younger I would Identify my aunts by the type of washer they had ... by its wash motion ... god I got teased for that for years .. Big family here

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Post# 26693-2/19/2003-06:24 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: I just got back from the wonderland...
MESSAGE: Hi Jamie,
That is great news!
Are you able to post photos? I'm sure we are all dying to see. I have never seen one of those machines so I can't wait.
Do you know what year it was made?
Does it work the same as a full size Whirlpool?
Best Wishes
Chris.

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Post# 26694-2/19/2003-06:28 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1/18's (years by model #'s ??) (try this - thnx(one leaks))
MESSAGE: Thanks Peter, well I guess they are both 1979, the only difference between the two is the location of the lid safety switch and the markings on the variable fill control.........otherwise they are exactly alike......while they are both thawing out.......I noticed a puddle on the floor underneath one........obviously one leaks........

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Post# 26695-2/19/2003-06:29 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: POD
MESSAGE: This guy that is on the lookout for me called yesterday and said he found a '64 Coppertone Norge washer for me.........has pushbuttons all along the back console.......I will be picking it up tonight I hope ......pics to follow.......

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Post# 26696-2/19/2003-06:31 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Early 60's Maytag set on Ebay (Beautiful Set!!)
MESSAGE: very nice and to find a set of that vintage.......hope someone in the club gets it.......

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Post# 26697-2/19/2003-06:32 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: I just got back from the wonderland... (congrads)
MESSAGE: good for you, congrads and good luck with it.......

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Post# 26698-2/19/2003-07:11 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD
MESSAGE: Greg, OUTSTANDING. I can't wait to see pics. I wonder if it's like the one in today's POD or the one like I had, installed in our home 12/23/64. Now, I bet y'all can't imagine who was doing wash on Christamas Day, 1964, while presents were being opened.

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Post# 26699-2/19/2003-07:20 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: I just got back from the wonderland... (How Wonderful!!)
MESSAGE: Good for you Jamie - Enjoy your new washer!!

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Post# 26700-2/19/2003-07:24 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1/18's (years by model #'s ??) (WC - '76 WIB - '79)
MESSAGE: Maybe lost in the confusion of picture links, but the WC is a 76 or 77 machine (with the lid switch in the hinge) and the WIB is a 79 (lid switch at back)

The lid switch wasn't moved to the back of the opening until 1979 so that years models are the only ones you'll see that on.



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Post# 26701-2/19/2003-07:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD
MESSAGE: You must have a golden touch!!

Good luck with the Norge - how exciting!

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Post# 26702-2/19/2003-07:28 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1/18's (years by model #'s ??) (one leaks??)
MESSAGE: Does this mean that one of the 1-18 washers you found leaks? Any idea where it's coming from? Hopefully it will be something easy to find and fix.

Keep us posted. Greg

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Post# 26703-2/19/2003-07:40 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: POD
MESSAGE: Way to go man!
I hope that we can see that beauty of true workhorse real soon!


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Post# 26704-2/19/2003-09:28 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1/18's (years by model #'s ??) (79 models vs. others)
MESSAGE: Greg,

Also check the filters on each and the patter of the holes at the bottom of the wash tub. Didn't you also say that the WC did not have the water level graphics?

-ph

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Post# 26705-2/19/2003-09:28 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: Question???
MESSAGE: Has anybody seen this?
Why on earth anybody think that they can sell this on eBay and hope to God that they can dump it on a poor lad?

It looks like Granny's pee ate the paint away and then some!
:-0
Oh my falling stars....
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=20714&item=2308857207

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Post# 26706-2/19/2003-09:29 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: I just got back from the wonderland...
MESSAGE: Congrats!

-ph

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Post# 26707-2/19/2003-09:31 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD
MESSAGE: Man, how do you do it?!?!?!

I got a call yesterday on a SQ. Got a feeling I'm going to be disappointed, but I need to see it first...

-ph

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Post# 26708-2/19/2003-10:04 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Early 60's Maytag set on Ebay (Beautiful Set!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Everyone! Welllllllllllllll, I couldn't resist. This set has been on Ebay for two days now and no one in the club bid sooooooooo I did! This is just too nice of a set to let go. I had this model washer years ago and gave it to a friend to use while I changed spouses and the friend SOLD it! I was not aware of it until two months later when I got my own place and needed the washer back. This one has a lighted tub also! Mark (ebay - mortition) ps yes I know it's spelled incorrectly, but someone else had the correct spelling :~(

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Post# 26709-2/19/2003-10:08 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: I just got back from the wonderland...
MESSAGE: JAMIE!!! CONGRATULATIONS!!! What a great washer. Of course you realize that this wil be only the FIRST of many that I'm sure you will collect. Can you imagine when your're my age (a mere 27 or so LOL!) and you still have that washer!!! It will be the hit of your wash-in, I'm sure! Enjoy it my friend!!! Mark

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Post# 26710-2/19/2003-10:24 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Early 60's Maytag set on Ebay (Beautiful Set!!)
MESSAGE: They appear to be in incredibly good shape!
I hate to imagine what the shipping cost is going to be, but as with all things we want, we can always justify the expense.
I'd have been quite upset with my "friends" if they sold my loaned washer out from under me. I can trulely say I would have gone ballistic, the nerve of them!
Let us know how this pans out and I hope you win the auction!
-Alex
(Fort Lauderdale)

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Post# 26711-2/19/2003-11:45 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Question??? (Land of rust?)
MESSAGE: This is an example of a typical New Orleans washer & dryer that's been installed in a garage or the back of the house or in the "wash house". The real old houses had this. No AC, just humidity and iron oxide.

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Post# 26712-2/19/2003-11:46 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Question??? (Land of rust? Seattle)
MESSAGE: Seattle is very humid most of the time so probably not much classic stuff there. Just rust buckets like the ones in the picture.

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Post# 26713-2/19/2003-12:05 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD
MESSAGE: Bob what a present you got, for my 3rd birthday! ;-)

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Post# 26714-2/19/2003-12:14 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Early 60's Maytag set on Ebay (Beautiful Set!!)
MESSAGE: Mark, is that a two speed machine? I couldn't tell from the picture if it had the speed buttons or that bar that says "automatic". Either way, what a wonderful set! At that time apparently, the lighted consoles and tubs were not reserved strictly for the top of the line models. I'm so glad you bid on them. And the beautiful porcelain dryer drum! Would that have had a light inside as well?

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Post# 26715-2/19/2003-13:01 ||| gewasherguy (Arkansas)
SUBJECT: New Washers and Dryers
MESSAGE: I would like a honest opinion from anyone out there that might have some information on these washers and dryer. What is your opinion on the following brands of new washers and dryers...?? Thanks for the information.

Amana
Magic Chef
Maytag Performa

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Post# 26716-2/19/2003-13:28 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: Question??? (I had to ask myself also )
MESSAGE: What did granny wash to eat away at that LOL

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Post# 26717-2/19/2003-13:30 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: Early 60's Maytag set on Ebay (Beautiful Set!!)
MESSAGE: I am so happy you bid on it I almost bid myself but had to resist it tis a beautiful set

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Post# 26718-2/19/2003-14:18 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: New Washers and Dryers
MESSAGE: Since this club is for the classics only I think you'd better pose your question at the Appliances Forum. The link below will bring you there.

Good luck,

Louis
LINK: http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/appl/

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Post# 26719-2/19/2003-14:21 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Early 60's Maytag set on Ebay (Beautiful Set!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Scott! That is a two speed machine. The user can select Gentle action or normal action with the buttons on the left side of the timer. The buttons on the right side are for wash temperatures and 4 water level selections. The lint filter on this one is in the agitator post and is stainless steel. This is the smaller tub Maytag so the wash action is pretty good. I had the water level set up on my old one to just slosh over the agitator cap when using a full tub of water. This kept the cap pretty and shiny! This machine has a flourescent panel AND a light that lights a section of the timer that is incandescent AND a tub light! Mark

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Post# 26720-2/19/2003-14:22 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Question???
MESSAGE: This is the kind of stuff we find in Florida. Just eat up with rust! Actually this one is in BETTER condition than the ones we find in Florida usually! Mark

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Post# 26721-2/19/2003-14:24 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Early 60's Maytag set on Ebay (Beautiful Set!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Alex! Like a lot of people, this friend of mine thought that I could always pick up another old washer...... :~(

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Post# 26722-2/19/2003-14:35 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: New Washers and Dryers
MESSAGE: AMANA - Just was resold again to a company in Japan so no telling what will happen to the product. Used to be the same as the Speed Queen. A friend of mine has a three year old set of the top of the line electronic machines with the lighted controls that the front panel has started to rust on. These machines are kept INSIDE in air conditioning. In the three years that she has had the machines, they are on their 4th service call and repair.
MAGIC CHEF - Bottom line goods made by Maytag/Admiral/Jenn Air .... and who knows who else.......
MAYTAG PERFORMA - One of Maytag lines. Steer clear of plastic tubs.....plastic pulleys......plastic period.
Just my opinion. Mark

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Post# 26723-2/19/2003-15:31 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: New Washers and Dryers (off-classics sandbox)
MESSAGE: Or you can post your question in our sandbox...

-ph
LINK: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Applianceville-Sandbox/

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Post# 26724-2/19/2003-15:34 ||| gewasherguy (Arkansas)
SUBJECT: Thanks
MESSAGE: Lightedcontrols....thanks for the information on these new machines. It is what I was looking for and it is very much appreciated.

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Post# 26725-2/19/2003-17:02 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Question???
MESSAGE: I never seen a Kenmore in this poor condition in my life!
I mean, I've seen rust on the interior on the chassis (outer basket and base), but never around the top like this one.

Larry

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Post# 26726-2/19/2003-17:13 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Early 60's Maytag set on Ebay (Beautiful Set!!)
MESSAGE: I remember my grandmother's Maytag sloshed water over the top of the filter too, I always thought that was so cool.

I think there were only three water levels on this model, four selections didn't come about until the large capacity tubs of the late 60's if I remember my Maytag manuals.

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Post# 26727-2/19/2003-17:16 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Question???
MESSAGE: Granny should have left the lid up when done with her washday! I've seen this on these models before - so it doesn't look like they were kept in mint condition - the dryer filter is broken and it looks like there are chips all over the top of them - what were they doing??

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Post# 26728-2/19/2003-17:34 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Early 60's Maytag set on Ebay (Beautiful Set!!)
MESSAGE: I like that too (the coinop Maytags have the flat-top agitator too, just not the neat chrome cap!)

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Post# 26729-2/19/2003-17:37 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Early 60's Maytag set on Ebay (Beautiful Set!!)
MESSAGE: Cool, on all counts! I didn't realize the filters on those were stainless too. A neighbors 206 filter had this funky meshy stuff that was kind of hard to clean. Later, the filter was made from a harder plastic which I thought was much easier to clean than the mesh.

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Post# 26730-2/19/2003-19:02 ||| richm (Central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Early 60's Maytag set on Ebay (Beautiful Set!!)
MESSAGE: Great set, my mother had the same Maytag dryer and it did have a light inside the drum, behind the lint filter. Good luck with it! Rich

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Post# 26731-2/19/2003-20:26 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: New Washers and Dryers
MESSAGE: Actually, Amana is now owned by Maytag. Goodman sold them almost two years ago, so in effect all of the names you asked about are in the Maytag family...... but of course this is for either the sandbox or thathomesite.com

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Post# 26732-2/19/2003-20:44 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Early 60's Maytag set on Ebay (Beautiful Set!!)
MESSAGE: Mark: Georgeous machines!! Bravo!!! I love the stippled dryer drum! Does it have the dryness sensors wrapped around the drum fins??? I always thought it was so advanced of Maytag in the 50's to have electronic dryness control!!!

Can't wait to spin the dial!!!!

jon & al

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Post# 26733-2/19/2003-22:08 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Early 60's Maytag set on Ebay (Beautiful Set!!)
MESSAGE: Greetings! This dryer is the timed version. Would dry up to 110 minutes with the last 5 being cool down. This was the new age of WASH-N-WEAR you know! The timers on these dryers, as they wear, will jump past the off position when turning off. This is a result of wear on the timing cam. Pretty normal for a Maytag of this vintage. If you look closely at the picture, this one has jumped past off as well. My Grandmother's used to do this and every once in a while, it would jump to off and just far enough to restart the dryer. Notice no start switch! You locked the door, set the timer, and the machine started. I remember giving my cousin Keith quite a ride in my Granny's dryer. The door lock kept him from getting out! LOL!!! This was before all the lawsuits and safety features. This model has three temp selections. Air Fluff, Regular Fabrics and Wash & Wear. This is not the electronic model. I do have three of the electronic models from that era though and they really work well. I do change the limit thermostats with a variable one so that the cooldown doesn't shut the dryer off until the clothes are about 95 degrees. Seems this makes the towels especially a little more fluffy! Mark

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Post# 26734-2/19/2003-22:09 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: New Washers and Dryers
MESSAGE: I think Maytag just dumped Amana and a company from Japan just bought them....and this IS for the sandbox!

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Post# 26735-2/19/2003-22:19 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1/18's (years by model #'s ??) (WC - '76 WIB - '79 thnx G)
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg .............. the place I picked them up had cut the power cord off the back, uuggghhhh, so I need to redo the cord.........

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Post# 26736-2/19/2003-22:24 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (NORGE FOUND)
MESSAGE: I am on a winning streak, today i picked up a coppertone NORGE 18 top of the line from 1964.......in very good shape.......10 pushbuttons along the left, infinite water level, fabric softener and bleach dispensers, green filter basket in the back, I cleaned it up tonight, it was pretty dirty.......now I just have to plug it in and see whats up.................took a couple pics tonight, just need to get them developed.........

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Post# 26737-2/19/2003-22:26 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Early 60's Maytag set on Ebay (Beautiful Set!!)
MESSAGE: Mark, did these dryer models have the end of cycle "ding"? Didn't some of the later ones of this style have a regular push-pull (nonlocking) door? A friend had a 1964 Electronic model and also said it worked quite well.

Do we know if Maytag was the first to have "electronic" dryers?



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Post# 26738-2/19/2003-22:27 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1/18's (years by model #'s ??) (one leaks??)
MESSAGE: yea, the 1976 one leaks, it was frozen solid, actually they both were, I just hope its not cracked pumps or anything like that.......but I need to take the front panel off, hopefully some night next week I will get to it.......I will let you know, thanks for asking.....need to reattach the power cords first and try them out to see whats going on.......

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Post# 26739-2/19/2003-22:29 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD
MESSAGE: Thanks Larry, I should have pics out here in a couple weeks; Did you pick up the Frigidaire?? Try it out??

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Post# 26740-2/19/2003-22:30 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1/18's (years by model #'s ??) (79 models vs. others)
MESSAGE: I noticed that tonight, funny you mention, that one has holes in the very bottom of the tub and the other does not, I forget which model has which, I will double check tomorrow.........

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Post# 26741-2/19/2003-22:33 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Question??? (This guys needs to get his priorities right!)
MESSAGE: Just goes to show where priorities lie.

Forget the flat screen rear projection tv that costs the price of a small car, just give me a front loader and a bean bag...

You gotta wonder what else dear granny wants.

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Post# 26742-2/19/2003-22:33 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Question???
MESSAGE: I can't believe there is actually a bid on it.........

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Post# 26743-2/19/2003-23:27 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Early 60's Maytag set on Ebay (Beautiful Set!!)
MESSAGE: You're correct Greg. 3 water levels. That's how I could look at the control panel and know if it was a large capacity machine or not--4 water levels.

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Post# 26744-2/19/2003-23:35 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD
MESSAGE: Greg, I'm not sure I can wait a couple of weeks for pics of the Norge. I'm dying to see how it compares with mine. And please take good pics of the control panels and the chart that details the cycles under the lid.

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Post# 26745-2/19/2003-23:57 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Early 60's Maytag set on Ebay (Electronic Controls 1962)
MESSAGE: 1962 - The Maytag Company:

"With the introduction of the electronic, Halo of Heat dryer models DE701 and DG701, a different approach to clothes drying is offered to the modern homemaker. The dryers incorporate an electronic control to accurately determine drying time by sensing the degree of dryness or dampness for each load placed in the appliance. The chance of the homemaker overdrying or underdrying is minimized as each load is actually "custom dried" and conditioned."

I had the DE701 (in turquoise) some years ago which had the auto-electronic settings on the dial along with an air-fluff cycle and a timed dry cycle. In 1964, Maytag introduced the all pushbutton dryer to match the washer they offered several years before.

Prior to this, there is no mention of any electronic sensor controls in the Maytag manuals. I've heard they were the first with the electronic control in the '62 models - anyone know of another manufacturer that used electronic controls before this?

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Post# 26746-2/20/2003-00:04 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (NORGE FOUND)
MESSAGE: Hurry with the pictures and the review of it's operation!

Congrats, again!!

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Post# 26747-2/20/2003-00:06 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1/18's (years by model #'s ??) (one leaks??)
MESSAGE: There is a pin-trap bolted to the outer tub that might have cracked - mine had that problem too, also had been frozen. You should have no trouble finding another if you need it and it's an easy repair.
- Greg

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Post# 26748-2/20/2003-00:59 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (NORGE FOUND)
MESSAGE: GEEEEZE.  WOW!  I'd say "winning streak" is an understatement!

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Post# 26749-2/20/2003-06:09 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (NORGE FOUND)
MESSAGE: And coppertone no less in Massachusetts!!! Unbelievable and fabulous at the same time. Hopefully it won't need a lot of repair work to get it up and running. Can't wait for pics. Now about that lower and central New England wash in............

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Post# 26750-2/20/2003-06:14 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: New Washers and Dryers
MESSAGE: Um........yes,I think I recognized that already, which is why I suffixed my comments with that acknowledgement - so as not to get far afield should any other comments arise. Next issue???

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Post# 26751-2/20/2003-08:22 ||| gewasherguy (Arkansas)
SUBJECT: Pardon Me
MESSAGE: Listen...to the persons that keep referring to this question needing to be put in the "sandbox"...I did not realize you could not ask questions concerning new machines at this forum and that everyone seems to be so touchy. It will not happen again.

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Post# 26752-2/20/2003-08:40 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (NORGE FOUND)
MESSAGE: Greg, in 1964, the largest Norge capacity was Norge 15--15 lbs. I hope that waas a typo. The 18-20 pound machines didn't come out until late late 60s or early 1970s with the redesign from having the filter pan at the back of the tub and moved to a burp-up type on the agitator. Our 64 Norge was a dispensomat that had the buttons on the right and were only 8 buttons. I believe in 1965 they went to 10 buttons and may have moved them to the left. Our filter pan (tray) was a blueish-green. The corresponding Monkey Wards versions were grey. I saved the POD that is my washer if you'd like for me to email it to you. Bob

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Post# 26753-2/20/2003-08:53 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (NORGE FOUND)
MESSAGE: That's very exciting Greg! Congrats. Can't wait to see pictures. I'm not sure what year Norge came out with their perforated tub machines, but your machine might be from the very first year!

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Post# 26754-2/20/2003-09:07 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Question???
MESSAGE: There's not only one bid for these machines, but two!
WOW, granny's scent is catching someone's attention!
LOL

Now if I were to bid on it, it would be for the recycling lint filter feature only!

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Post# 26755-2/20/2003-09:22 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Question???
MESSAGE: Giving granny a lesson: sit, drip and spin dry.....

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Post# 26756-2/20/2003-09:48 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: POD
MESSAGE: Not yet Greg, I will have to wait until the snow belt starts to thaw! I'm making plans to travel to the far north in mid march!

Thanks for looking out.....

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Post# 26757-2/20/2003-09:50 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Early 60's Maytag set on Ebay (Beautiful Set!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Scott! This model dryer just shuts off and that's it. No dings. The electronic models of the early 60's had a bell that did ding when the dryer shut off. The bell is located in the control panel next to the control switch with a little relay that dings the bell once. The electronic models really did perform well. Maytag made lots of changes in the late 50's to early 60's. The prior model to the one that I am bidding on had a perforated drum with a long lint screen on the lower right corner. The heat came from the top right of the drum and "flowed" through the drum and clothes. My Grandmother had this model. It took well over an hour to dry a load of towels since there was so much space between the outer drum and the tumbler. The heat was just drawn right to the vent with very little going through the clothes. I believe that Maytag was the first with an electronic drying control in the late 50's or early 60's. The vanes in the drum were wrapped with two sets of wires and connected through a carbon and copper strip that was around the bearring area and then connected to the controller in the control panel. The "timer " knob actually was a cam that pushed buttons in the control switch. Pressing the button or "timer" dial was actually the start button as well. (for a while this dryer was available with the round "timer" dial or the pushbutton selector model) When Maytag introduced the "halo of heat" models, they put the lint filter in the rear of the drum and pulled the heat from a shroud that surrounded the front of the tumbler. The actual tumbler was a solid tub except for the lint filter cut out in the rear and the perforations around the front of the tub that let the warmed air in. This was a pretty good system unless you were drying large articles like rugs or sheets as they would get sucked to the lint filter and actually "act" like the filter! The locking door latch was replaced in the early 60's I believe with the snap to close and open system. (this way, if someone, like me, was to put his cousin in the dryer, the cousin could push the door open from the inside!) Also start switches and many other safety features were added. Mark


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Post# 26758-2/20/2003-10:54 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Early 60's Maytag set on Ebay (Beautiful Set!!)
MESSAGE: Thank you for that interesting lesson Mark! I didn't know about the perforated drum dryers until one on Ebay a while ago, nor did I know about the door lock, until last convention when I saw a Maytag with that style door. I like the sounds of how they had the sensors set up in these, as it seems it would give a lot of contact points with the clothes, making it more accurate.

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Post# 26759-2/20/2003-12:29 ||| washerlover (northern California)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (NORGE FOUND)
MESSAGE: I'm so jealous! I've been looking for a machine like this for years (either Wards or Norge). Would love to see pix if possible!

Take care,

Todd


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Post# 26760-2/20/2003-15:52 ||| soharra (Huntsville, Alabama)
SUBJECT: Spin-X
MESSAGE: Have any of y'all come across this accessory to home laundry in the states? When I lived in Spain, the family I stayed with had one of these in their kitchen next to the Miele.

Don't know how well this product might work, as it look a little cheap?

Shawn
LINK: http://www.spin-x.com/spin2.ram

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Post# 26761-2/20/2003-15:57 ||| soharra (Huntsville, Alabama)
SUBJECT: RE: Early 60's Maytag set on Ebay (Beautiful Set!!)
MESSAGE: You put your cousin in a clothes dryer too???!! So did I...and the family cat! When I was really young, my brother put a live chicken into our Laundromat, which sat in the kitchen. He didn't start the machine, but hoped that Mom would, and get a fright when she saw and heard the chicken squak!

Shawn

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Post# 26762-2/20/2003-16:13 ||| soharra (Huntsville, Alabama)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Good Shopping in Atlanta?)
MESSAGE: Peter,

Are there good sources of vintage in Atlanta anymore? When I lived there the Salvation Army had a weekly auction at their Marietta Street store, but don't know if they get any good stuff anymore?

Shawn in Huntsville


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Post# 26763-2/20/2003-19:24 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: GREGM WHAT DID YOU FIND TODAY?
MESSAGE: HELLO GREG,
DID NOT SEE ANY POST FROM YOU TODAY, AND I WANTED TO SEE WHAT YOU FOUND? FOUR 1-18'S? THREE BENDIX COMBOS? JUST PICKING.
I AM SO HAPPY THAT YOU ARE FINDING SO MUCH STUFF! YOUR HARD WORK BY GETTING YOU NAME OUT THERE IS REALLY PAYING OFF!
HAVE FUN PLAYING WITH ALL OF YOUR NEW MACHINES.
BRENT

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Post# 26764-2/20/2003-19:37 ||| Jakins (Kissimmee, Fl.)
SUBJECT: Nice GE Dishwasher on EBAY
MESSAGE: Looks like a nice one. Take a Look.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2309051008&category=20715

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Post# 26765-2/20/2003-20:10 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Nice GE Dishwasher on EBAY
MESSAGE: Wow - there really have been some nice things on ebay of late. Someone in Mass should grab this dishwasher!

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Post# 26766-2/20/2003-20:28 ||| bendixman (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Spin-X (Spin-X)
MESSAGE: Hi,
I have owned a spin-x for about 4 years now and it is a great little appliance. It cuts the drying time down on most loads of laundry by about 1/2 the time. Eventhough you might double rinse most laundry there is still some detergent left in the clothes. The spin-x extracts 99% of the excess water and detergent and the clothes dry softer and fluffier than putting them in the dryer right from the washer. I also found that it reduces the shrinkage on most items especially jeans since they require so much less time in the dryer. Hope i've been some help and if you are still interested get back to me to talk some more.

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Post# 26767-2/20/2003-21:36 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Nice GE Dishwasher on EBAY
MESSAGE: Wow! That is a nice one. I've never seen anything like it before. I especially like the design of the on/off switch. The rack is kind of neat too. I wonder what that is in the left rear corner of the top of the machine? It looks like the spray attachment for a kitchensink.

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Post# 26768-2/20/2003-21:51 ||| pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Early 60's Maytag set on Ebay (Beautiful Set!!)
MESSAGE: I was put as a child in a 1957 Whirlpool Imperial Dryer and that is why I am a laundrophile to this day.

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Post# 26769-2/20/2003-21:56 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: GREGM WHAT DID YOU FIND TODAY? (LOL)
MESSAGE: thanks Brent...........quiet day today..............

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Post# 26770-2/20/2003-21:59 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (NORGE FOUND thnx everyone)
MESSAGE: Thanks everyone for your comments..........I believe this machine is a 1964, pics will come soon........I do not have a digital camera, so I get out the old big Canon 35mm and mail the film in to be developed and they email my photos to me, along with shipping the actual photos to me as well.

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Post# 26771-2/20/2003-22:12 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: Norge leaks like a sieve........
MESSAGE: I tried the Norge tonight, and well, I have a list of things to do, first and foremost, whereas I am very new to the fixing side, forgive my lack of proper terminology, there is a...what looks like a plastic juice glass extending down from the bottom of the tub in the left rear corner, the bleach and fabric softener dispenser tubes attach to this, they need to be tightened. The clamp around the top of this "cup?" is rusted and leaks big time, I think there may be another pinhole in this cup near the bottom too. Secondly, there is a significant pinhole leak in the top of the water pump. I think those are the only leak issues, oh and thirdly, the fabric softener cup is cracked and broken. It does have a part # on it which I will try to get but if I can't I may be able to glue it back. It fills fine, spins fine, makes five or six horrible, extremely LOUD bangs when the spin shuts off, obviously the tub brake from what I can see, man, I would like to disconnect that solenoid......scared the crap out of me (haha)......and fourthly the agitation is extremely slow, no bad noises just very, very slow, I don't know why ??? I don't think this machine has run for YEARS (stinks mildew and cat pee inside cabinet - will be fun to work on - haha).......I need to replace what I think is a pushbutton light switch on the very top of the right side back console.........sorry this is so long.........Overall does not seem like anything major, I am a bit concerned about the slow tranny, hope that is nothing major, no signs of leaks at all on that..........

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Post# 26772-2/20/2003-22:18 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (NORGE FOUND)
MESSAGE: Bob, it could very well be a 1965, you guys out here can let me know once I post pics........it does have a date stamp on the back of 1964 though ?? and it definately is an 18 pounder. Ten pushbuttons to the left. Infinite water level, timer dial and then another separate knob which turns the timer dial (very cool looking)..........

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Post# 26773-2/20/2003-22:22 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (NORGE FOUND)
MESSAGE: Thanks Todd, I definately feel I lucked out big time, finding this machine !!!!!! I look forward to posting pics for everyone.......

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Post# 26774-2/20/2003-22:38 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: GUESS WHAT I FOUND !!!!!
MESSAGE: Hi Everyone! One of the delivery guys at Home Depot called with a washer that he thought I might want. Weeeeeellllll it turned out to be a GE lighted control Americana Dispensall washer in white!!! Three light scratches on the front. The best part is that I hooked it up AND IT WORKED PERFECTLY!!! It's a model WWA8508PALWH serial number TZ1 36273G Can anyone tell me what year this one is from? It has the lid within the lid and would you believe the dispensor compartments are not clogged or anything! It has a straight vane agitator in light blue with matching tub. It is missing the mini basket and filter pan that I assume it used to have???It is a really beautiful machine. I never collected GE's and now I have about 6, I think! Mark

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Post# 26775-2/20/2003-22:57 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: GUESS WHAT I FOUND !!!!!
MESSAGE: Fantastic Mark! Enjoy! Now, hopefully we'll come across the dispenser part sometime for Greg!

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Post# 26776-2/20/2003-22:59 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge leaks like a sieve........
MESSAGE: Thanks for the update Greg and for keeping us posted! Norge does have a very loud spin brake. Is they agitation really slow or just kind of slow? Norges do agitate slowly normally. Best wishes! It is sounding more and more like the one Bob's family had.

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Post# 26777-2/21/2003-00:32 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GUESS WHAT I FOUND !!!!! (1973)
MESSAGE: WOW! Great find Mark - and the mini-basket and filter-flo pan will be easy to find to make it complete. Yours is the same model as mine, except for the "WH" color code, mine is "HT" for Harvest(gold) This is a 1973 "P" line machine. The Dispensall feature was introduced in May of '73. It's wonderful that it works well, does the filter-flo stream change direction between wash and rinse? That is a very interesting system to change the direction of the flow - amazing we've found two machines that are both working. Tell your friend at Home Depot to keep his eyes open - he's a good person to know!

Here's the pictures of mine, and later in the album is the GE service manual scan of the Dispensall system too. Have fun and congrats again, very fun washer indeed!

Greg
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/General+Electric&.src=ph&.dnm=Americana+Washer.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/General%2bElectric%26.src=ph%26.view=t

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Post# 26778-2/21/2003-05:45 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: GUESS WHAT I FOUND !!!!!
MESSAGE: Congrats,Mark. That is a great find and especially rare with the lit control panel. I know there is a way to tell the year from the serial number and someone here should be able to help out. In fact it is in a prior post, but a while ago. The minibasket and filter flo pan should be reasonably easy to find. If you can't let me know. There is a GE dealer here that has a ton of these as he pulls them off machines he takes in. No point in spending a lot on these from a parts store after all.

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Post# 26779-2/21/2003-05:56 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: Nice GE Dishwasher on EBAY (I thought gregm got it )
MESSAGE: I thought gregm bought it first time around on ebay. and if he did looks like she is trying to sell it out from under him

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Post# 26780-2/21/2003-06:51 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Spin-X (Spin-X)
MESSAGE: I thought alot about buying a Spin-X but the problem is they're so small in capacity. If you had a super capacity washer, you'd be there all day loading and unloading the spin-x. So I bought the Frigemore instead. 1050rpm

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Post# 26781-2/21/2003-07:29 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge leaks like a sieve........
MESSAGE: Hey Scott, well it agitates like pathetically slow, it takes a full three seconds to rotate in one direction on normal speed, I am not sure if its because it just sat for so long or if water has got into the tranny. As far as the tub braking, I understand and have heard that they brake loud but is it, or should it be just ONE loud clunk?? or around SIX LOUD clunks like it is doing now.......??

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Post# 26782-2/21/2003-08:18 ||| Bendixman (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Spin-X (Spin-X)
MESSAGE: Jason,
While the capacity is small, it takes about 3 minutes per load (it has a built in timer) but it is well worth it. The spin-x spins at 3300rpm's and it really does cut down the dry time. Unfortunately the company only makes the small tub as it is not meant for commercial useage and I think that it is a great machine. For the additional 6-10 minutes it takes to spin-x a machine of clothes it's worth it. You also don't have to let it spin for the full 3 minutes, you can stop it at anytime when you see that there is no more water left coming out of the spout. The website for spin-x is www,spin-x.com. The cost of the machine is about $379 with shipping. I also own the Frigidaire Gallery front load which spins very fast but a lot of times when I put a load from the frigidaire into the spin-x there is still water that comes out of the wash. Bruce

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Post# 26783-2/21/2003-08:26 ||| filekar1 (italy)
SUBJECT: what washer was
MESSAGE: Hy I found on Ebay this old '62 washer.
But I don't know it. Can anyone of you help me?
I think it's a german washer
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3208777815&category=8419

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Post# 26784-2/21/2003-08:52 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: GUESS WHAT I FOUND !!!!! (1973)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg! Does this machine take a regular GE mini basket and filter pan? It looks from the photos os yours that there is another pan that sits in the filter pan that sits on top of the mini-basket. What part is this? Thanks, Mark

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Post# 26785-2/21/2003-08:55 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: Fabric Softner Dispenser for Whirlpool Surgilator
MESSAGE: Hey all you Whirlpool fans! I have a fabric softner dispenser for a Surgilator agitator if anyone wants it. (White plastic) It does need a good cleaning. I ran it through the dishwasher but it didn't seem to get all the gunk out. Mark

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Post# 26786-2/21/2003-08:55 ||| ellobie (Richmond, VA)
SUBJECT: Gas Ranges
MESSAGE: Does anyone know where I can go to learn more about my vintage gas range? I know NOTHING about appliances, much less vintage ones and I have this ancient (not as ancient as what I've been able to find on the web, but still very old) gas range I'd like to sell. Thanks for any info!

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Post# 26787-2/21/2003-09:33 ||| chrisfa1 (Northridge, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Gas Ranges
MESSAGE: sure try this!

http://www.antiquegasstoves.com/

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Post# 26788-2/21/2003-11:16 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge leaks like a sieve........
MESSAGE: Hi Greg here is some things to check out:

With the pump leak the pump is probably still available from Maytag.

Could the tranny just be cold and the oil needs to be warmed, if so the tranny drive pulley might be tight and causing the belt to slip? Try removing the belt and turning the transmission pulley by hand and see how tight it is.

As for the Loud Bangs, that's the brake latch. There probably should only be one loud bang, not five or six. I suspect that the brake latch is worn and is not catching properly so the brake latch keeps trying to catch the brake band and with each try it bangs. You cannot disconnect the solenoid otherwise the brake latch will never release from the brake band and the machine wont be able to spin.

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Post# 26789-2/21/2003-13:02 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge leaks like a sieve........
MESSAGE: Hi Greg! Robert gave you some things to check I see in a post above, and I will of course defer to his mechanical expertise, which is of course far greater than mine! I was just kind of going by a few facts I knew off the top of my head about Norge machines.

I'm thrilled you found it and I can feel inside that you will be able to have it running respectably! We'll look forward to your further reports and later pictures! Have a great weekend.

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Post# 26790-2/21/2003-15:45 ||| washerlover (northern California)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (NORGE FOUND)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg,

Thank you for responding to my message! I'm somewhat new to this website and have replied to a few other messages and have heard from no one. I'm getting the feeling Applianceville is a bit cliquey (spelling?) and I know since I'm new (and unfortunately don't own any fun appliances yet) I don't have much to share other than my love for old appliances.

Hope to chat more with you again and I can't wait to see pix of your "new" Norge washing machine!

Take care,

Todd

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Post# 26791-2/21/2003-16:24 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: Chat Room
MESSAGE: I'm there for a while, if anybody wants to drop by.
LINK: http://users.wcnet.net/dadoes/appchat.html

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Post# 26792-2/21/2003-20:15 ||| Brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Nice GE Dishwasher on EBAY (I thought gregm got it (Greg, is this the one you won on eBay?))
MESSAGE: Greg,
Was wondering if this was the top-loader that you won, or is someone else using the same pictures in another ad?
Hope it is not a scam.
Brent

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Post# 26793-2/21/2003-22:24 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GUESS WHAT I FOUND !!!!! (1973)
MESSAGE: Hi Mark -

Here is a good picture (from an ad for the Dispensall) of the mini-basket and filter pan so you know what to look for.

The extra attachment I had in mine was probably a replacement for the missing dispensall tray and funnel system - it is used for dispensing detergent when used with the pre-soak/wash cycle and wouldn't have been included with the machine originally.

Good luck with your machine and send some pictures when you get a chance!

Greg N
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Ads+Articles+Brochures&.dnm=GE+Americana+Dispensall.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t

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Post# 26794-2/21/2003-22:52 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: GREGM WHAT DID YOU FIND TODAY? (LOL)
MESSAGE: Oh Darn. I hope this doesn't mean you've lost your touch greg!!! (Just kidding, I know you haven't!!!)

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Post# 26795-2/21/2003-22:58 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (NORGE FOUND)
MESSAGE: Well Gre, I can't wait to see the pics. It will be one of the most anticipated for me in a long tie. And yes, that offset timer being moved by the smaller knob is very cool indeed!!!!

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Post# 26796-2/21/2003-23:04 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (NORGE FOUND (washerlover--Todd))
MESSAGE: Todd, welcome welcome welcome!!!!!!. I'm sorry you've felt left out. Plese don't think so. We really are not a cliquey type of group. I have no collection and in fact, no mechanical ability, but I still feel very much a part of this group and is like family in lots of ways LOL.

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Post# 26797-2/22/2003-11:30 ||| kirk280980 (Lincoln UK)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (NORGE FOUND (washerlover--Todd))
MESSAGE: Agreed!

I'm in the same position as Appnut - no collection as of yet, and have never done any restoration work either - but I still log in every day to read the new messages. While it's very rare that I have anything to add, I love catching up with the news regarding other members' collections.

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Post# 26798-2/22/2003-11:34 ||| Jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Who makes house calls?
MESSAGE: Last week I was washing in my 66 rollarmatic Frigidaire. This is a suds-saver model, and after the first load, I noticed that the wash tub was only half as full of water as usual. The next load I heard a loud bang and grinding sound during the first spin. The first spin starts off slow, and swithes to fast half way through. Now for some reason when it switches to fast spin, their is a clunk, and the wash water quits coming through the wash water hose, and is diverted to the rinse hose, which goes down the drain. I have several questions, 1-what in the world has happened? 2-should I not use the machine? 3-who knows what is wrong, and wants to visit sunny, tropical, warm Minnesota in Feb to show me how to fix this? Don't delay!! E-mails are welcome if you don't like hot weather. (donshier@aol.com) Thanks, Don

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Post# 26799-2/22/2003-12:18 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (NORGE FOUND)
MESSAGE: Greetings Todd and welcome to the club! Make sure you download some of the video so you can see some of these old machines in action!!! Hope to see you at the next wash-in! Mark

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Post# 26800-2/22/2003-12:21 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: GUESS WHAT I FOUND !!!!! (1973)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg! thanks for your response. I was also wondering if the lid could be opened before the end of the cycle to add clothes without dumping all the additives all over the place? Would love to find a USE AND CARE MANUAL for this model. Mark

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Post# 26801-2/22/2003-12:23 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Who makes house calls?
MESSAGE: Don! Don't use that washer!!! Jon Charles one of the Frigidaire experts and I'm sure will have some idea of what is wrong! Mark

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Post# 26802-2/22/2003-13:05 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GUESS WHAT I FOUND !!!!! (1973)
MESSAGE: Once you fill the dispensers, you should wait 30 seconds before raising the lid, but of course, the dispensers won't work if the lid is up during the cycles then...

I don't have the dispenser tray for mine, but I'm guessing that you need to wait 30 seconds to open the lid because the bleach is funneled into the tank under the top in the outer tub where the solenoid pulls the valve open to dispense it into the wash-water.



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Post# 26803-2/22/2003-13:08 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Who makes house calls?
MESSAGE: Hi Don - sounds like you may have a timer problem. What model do you have? Is there a switch on the panel to "save" suds?

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Post# 26804-2/22/2003-13:41 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Who makes house calls? (top load dishwashers)
MESSAGE: I have tried that chat room but again I am the only person in there.

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Post# 26805-2/22/2003-13:50 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Who makes house calls? (chat room)
MESSAGE: I have tried this applianceville chat room a few times, never anyone there. Going to try again today at 4:00

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Post# 26806-2/22/2003-14:17 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Who makes house calls? (chat room)
MESSAGE: Don't just pop in, look, and leave if nobody is there. Sometimes if you wait a while, somebody else will show up.

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Post# 26807-2/22/2003-16:59 ||| Jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Who makes house calls?
MESSAGE: Hi Greg, it is model WCDRK. The suds return is an option on the wash water temp dial, no extra switches or buttons.

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Post# 26808-2/22/2003-17:01 ||| Jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Who makes house calls?
MESSAGE: Thanks Mark, I will have to contact him. If the machine is leaving me, maybe I will have to find a new Maytag or GE with lighted console!! Glad you had such a good streak of luck. Don

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Post# 26809-2/22/2003-21:38 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Who makes house calls?
MESSAGE: Don't worry Don! That machine WON'T be lost!!! Someone in the club should have the part you need! MArk

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Post# 26810-2/22/2003-22:25 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Who makes house calls?
MESSAGE: Hi Don, I agree with Greg. Sounds like the timer is de-energizing the suds return solenoid too soon. You can get a new-rebuilt timer at Midwest Timer Service. This is not a serious problem, it will just prevent you from using the suds saver for a while until you can get a new timer.

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Post# 26811-2/23/2003-01:33 ||| BsmntFullOSuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: Terrorism "Not Likely" Cause of Fire at Local Laundromat
MESSAGE: EUCLID, OH — Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge assured the American people Monday that terrorism was "not likely a factor" in the fire that damaged a downtown Euclid laundromat Sunday afternoon.

"At this time, there is nothing to suggest that yesterday's Sudsy Duds fire was the work of a terrorist group, al-Qaeda or otherwise," Ridge said. "The FBI is conducting a thorough investigation into the cause, but thus far, there is no evidence indicating that this was a terrorist strike against our nation."

Euclid Fire Chief Andrew Donnelly, who has been working closely with state and federal officials in the wake of the blaze, offered his theory on its cause.

"I'm guessing water flooded into the basement, causing a misfire in an oil furnace that sparked a minor explosion," Donnelly said. "Groundwater probably seeped through the walls of the lower level and reached the boiler in the middle of the floor. Luckily, we were able to contain the blaze without causing too much structural water damage. Coulda been a lot worse."

Damage from the fire is estimated at $27,000. Among the casualties were seven large-capacity dryers, a detergent-vending machine, and a Pengo arcade game.

According to Ridge, there is no evidence to suggest that the facility was used as a "soft target," in spite of the federal government's recent terror-alert upgrade to orange.

"We can say with a high degree of certainty that this fire was not masterminded by Osama bin Laden or any other such figure," Ridge said. "There were no intercepted communications between suspected terrorists regarding this laundromat, and no sign of chemical, biological, or radiological weapons was found after a thorough search of all washers, dryers, folding tables, and snack machines."

Added Ridge: "I would, however, urge the public to remain extra-vigilant in these times of heightened alert and be sure to report any unusual or suspicious activities they witness at laundromats or any other public place."

Though Euclid is home to an estimated seven Muslims, none are considered suspects at this time.

"We checked, and every member of Euclid's Islamic community has an airtight alibi," Ridge said. "I further discussed these foreign-born residents with Euclid police chief Stan Welker, who vouched for their character, saying, 'They're all good, decent folks, just like you and me.' We may still bring them in for a little further questioning, but I don't have real reason to suspect they're behind this."

Welker said he has accounted for everyone who used the facility in the 24 hours prior to the fire. Thus far, he has found no evidence suggesting foul play.

"The names of key witnesses were taken, should further questioning be required, but preliminary interviews have revealed nothing suspicious," Welker said. "It was a pretty slow day. At the time of the fire, there were only five people in there: Jenny Kroeger and her two kids and an elderly couple from over on Franklin Street."

Sudsy Duds owner Mike Birbiglia arrived within minutes of the fire.

"Normally, the basement is actively pumped dry, but the sump pump apparently broke or was unplugged," Birbiglia said. "Well, we think that's what happened. Who knows? All we know for sure is I got one heck of a mess to clean up down there."

In spite of the unlikelihood that the incident was a terrorist act, Birbiglia said he plans to hire guards from Safe-T Security of Euclid to patrol the premises after closing.

"I'm sure it was nothing," Birbiglia said, "but if it's all the same, I'd rather not take any chances. Last thing I need is somebody trying to mess up my store just as I'm about to put in those new triple-load washers."

Attempting to calm a jittery nation bracing for the next terrorist attack, President Bush said there is no cause for alarm.

"The Euclid fire appears to be an isolated incident unrelated to terrorism," Bush said. "But next time, we might not be so lucky. That is why we, as a nation, must do everything we can to drive out Saddam Hussein and his ilk. By confronting terrorism head-on, we can once again live in a nation where we don't jump every time a dryer buzzer goes off."

Bush said Euclid officials will remain in close communication with state and federal government agencies.

"If they find any proof of terrorist activity, all levels will be notified," Bush said. "Now, everyone go about your day as normal."

Link to article in The Onion:



LINK: http://www.theonion.com/onion3906/terrorism_not_likely.html

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Post# 26812-2/23/2003-01:42 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: POD Question about Cool Down
MESSAGE: Today's POD mentions a unique cool down. Reading this I realized I didn't know how such a thing was performed. In a machine with a solid tub it's just a matter of an overflow rinse, but how is that done in machines with a perforated tub? Is the machine pumping out a part of the wash water and then takes in cold? Or is there another way? I guess it shows I didn't grow up in the US ;-)

Louis

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Post# 26813-2/23/2003-08:16 ||| Shawn (Waterford Ct)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Question about Cool Down
MESSAGE: If I remember the machine would drain the wash water out till the tub was half empty,then fill with cold water.This would happen three or four times before it would spin. This was on a 1962 Kenmore. I had a 1969 Whirlpool that had an extra long drain time that would cool the wash down before it would spin.I hope this is the correct info. Shawn.

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Post# 26814-2/23/2003-08:22 ||| shawn (Waterford Ct)
SUBJECT: P.O.D.
MESSAGE: This is when Kenmore was at it's best.

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Post# 26815-2/23/2003-09:00 ||| Jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Who makes house calls?
MESSAGE: Thanks Robert, I hope that this is simple. Another person wrote to me and said the loud "machine gun" sound could be a bad cam. It only did that once the first time I noticed it, and hasn't since. The loud noise I hear now maybe is the the switching of the drain, as it only happens once. What is your take on the cam-or anyone elses? Don

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Post# 26816-2/23/2003-09:59 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Nice Maytag Dryer... Right that is a dryer.
MESSAGE: To me, it is annoying that they put those pictures up, for a Maytag dryer. The dryer is where in those pictures? Geeze!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2309607495&category=20714

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Post# 26817-2/23/2003-10:09 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Guess what came...
MESSAGE: It Came! The little beauty came!It is better, and worse than I expected. I got Pics and a 15 miute video. I don't know how to post the video though. (It is on a camcorder.) It has a few problems, the timer will often get stuck when trying to go into or during the spin. The suspension is off to one side. It makes a loud noise when speeding up to full spin speed. The last thing is that the pump is leaking water out of the waterfall lint filter spraying and drpping everywhere during spin and drain. Help me! What do I do? Call a repairman? Help!

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Post# 26818-2/23/2003-10:56 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Honey, I'm home ...
MESSAGE: The computer died and went to the shop for 5 days ... I have gone through Applianceville withdrawl ... no POD for postings for 5 days ... God, I've been in hell! I missed you guys!!!

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Post# 26819-2/23/2003-11:19 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Nice Maytag Dryer... Right that is a dryer.
MESSAGE: Sometimes these eBay ads are quite annoying. I remember a Kenmore set that was sold as a GE set. And I think it was last week that a Whirlpool set was sold as a Kenmore set. What I also find pretty annoying are these very dark pictures so you can hardly see what they want to sell. I guess you could mail then and ask to post the right pictures.

Louis

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Post# 26820-2/23/2003-11:21 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Honey, I'm home ...
MESSAGE: Bad, bad computer. Welcome back!

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Post# 26821-2/23/2003-13:35 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Honey, I'm home ... (Honey, I'm home )
MESSAGE: Oh I know the feeling it sux.
I was without a computer for awhile and it drive me crazy missing this club
Jetaction
Peter

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Post# 26822-2/23/2003-14:06 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Question about Cool Down
MESSAGE: Louis,

As I recall, the first cool down process that WP/KM came up with (Wash-n-Wear cycle) involved simply doing a repeated partial drain (until the pressure switch reset) and refill with cold water for one two or timer increments. There was no agitation. The timer motor ran during drain, but not fill, so that number of times the process repeated depended on what water level was used (how long the partial drains took).

Kenmore at some point modified it so that agitation occurred DURING the cold refill (at low speed), which was always fun. I don't know if Whirlpool ever had that kind of cool down.

Then the process was modified so that it was a partial drain, refill with cold (no agitation), agitate two mins, then repeat. Whirlpool had a knit cycle for a while that was a one-step agitated cool down. Whirlpool also later modified the two-stage cool down on PP to a single stage. I recall when the timer was replaced in our 1976 Whirlpool, the replacement timer had the single-stage cool down on PP, instead of the double cool down that was on the original timer. The Knit cycle still had the one-stage cool down.

I recall the first GE I met in the 1970s had a perforated basket, and the cool down was simply a very long cold spray that began immediately at the start of the first spin. The Kelvy at John's warehouse also does that, I think.

My aunt's solid-tub Speed Queen also had a cold spray (I think), and the Durable Press cycle was otherwise just a shorter version of the regular cycle. Spin speed was controlled by a switch separate from the timer, so it was the user's responsbility to select slow for Durable Press.

Maytag had a partial spin-drain, then refill with cold, and possibly agitation. Somebody more familiar with Maytag can provide the details. I recall mention of something about the timer sequence that could sometimes throw the process out-of-kilter.

My F&P does a complete drain, then refill with cold and a minute or so of agitation.

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Post# 26823-2/23/2003-14:30 ||| kenwashesmonday (Haledon, NJ)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Question about Cool Down
MESSAGE: These permanent press cycle differences are interesting.
Here's what the manual says for my Maytag A606:

Fill- time variable
Wash- selective up to 8 min.
Pause- 1 min.
Spin & Partial Drain- 45 seconds (approx)
Fill with Cold Water- time variable
Spin & Partial Drain- 15 seconds (approx)
Fill With Cold Water- time variable
Pause- 1 minute
Deep Rinse- 1 minute
Pause- 1 minute
Spin & Drain- 2 minutes
Fill With Cold Water- time variable
Deep Rinse- 1 minute
Pause- 1 minute
Damp Dry- 3 minutes

Whew! That's a lot of steps!
I never use the perm.press cycle, it seems like it would use a heck of a lot of water! All of our shirts are cotton anyway. :-)

Ken D.

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Post# 26824-2/23/2003-15:12 ||| JohnProkos (Tennessee)
SUBJECT: Corox Burner/Element
MESSAGE: Hello, how lucky am I to find this list! I recently was given my grandmother's farmhouse. She had an old Westinghouse electric stove she got for free from the local school - it was there home economics stove. No one ever thought it would last this long but it has. Unfortunatley the other night i noticed a crack in the front burner- this seems potentialy dangerous. It also seems to be almost cracked all the way through. I would like to replace it with another one, but don't know where to look. The model information on the stove is: Type D64-48, Serial H146131, Volts 120-240, Style 1350397. The knobs are 5 position and the burner seems to have two element leads. The burner itself measures aprox. 7-3/8" in diameter. It is not the typical plug in kind of course, it has a huge porcelain block and the wires are attached with screws. Hope someone has an idea. I would like to stick with a similar look if possible since it is an antique.

Thanks for any input or advice.

Regards,

John Prokos
jplists@bellsouth.net
Bell Buckle, TN USA

There are some photos at the URL link
LINK: http://bellsouthpwp.net/j/p/jprokos/Westinghouse%20Range/

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Post# 26825-2/23/2003-15:44 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Who makes house calls?
MESSAGE: Hi Don, whether its a bad timer cam or bad contact touching the cam doesn't matter you should replace the entire timer as an assembly. I have successfully made repairs on timers before but its a hit or miss affair and a few times I made the situation worse. The loud noise your hearing is probably the drain diverter valve solenoid making its normal klunking sound, just doing it more than once because the timer is not keeping it energized properly.

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Post# 26826-2/23/2003-15:58 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Check out this Montgomery Ward Set
MESSAGE: Hey everybody, check out this MW Signature Set I saw a few ago at a sale. This set must be from around '65 or so...
LINK: http://www.classicappliances.com/TEMP/Signature.jpg

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Post# 26827-2/23/2003-16:05 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Guess what came...
MESSAGE: Oh Jamie! I'm sorry that it's not in the best possible condition! Did it come with a warranty or did you buy it "as is"? If it came with a warranty then the place that you bought it is the place to start. If it came "as is" then you might try calling Sears to see if they still repair machines from that model year. If Sears no longer repairs your type of machine then the only thing that I can suggest is that you look in the yellow pages and see if you can find someone in your area who can bring this machine back to where you want it to be. Good luck and please keep us posted.

Mike

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Post# 26828-2/23/2003-16:10 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Check out this Montgomery Ward Set
MESSAGE: Interesting! I've never seen a Wards machine before. (Except in the catalogue of course. Montgomery Ward didn't have any stores in New Jersey as far as I know.) Those machines could use a good cleaning. I wonder if they still work?

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Post# 26829-2/23/2003-16:42 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Check out this Montgomery Ward Set
MESSAGE: How fun! A matched set, still hooked up to the utilities! I have seen that style of Signature washer before, but never a Signature washer with alphabet washing or a scrubber cap! Very cool.

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Post# 26830-2/23/2003-17:26 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Nice Maytag Dryer... Right that is a dryer.
MESSAGE: Did they correct the after you saw it? The auction is for a Maytag dryer, and that appears to be what is in the pictures. I have not seen that control panel style before, but it is definitely a Maytag, from the "Halo-of-Heat" era.

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Post# 26831-2/23/2003-17:33 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Nice Maytag Dryer... Right that is a dryer. (They Changed the Picture!)
MESSAGE: The original pic was for a Kenmore Washer. The new pic is for a Maytag dryer. You're right it looks like it's from the "Halo of Heat" era.

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Post# 26832-2/23/2003-17:59 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Too Funny!
MESSAGE: Read the seller's description for this wringer washer, aside from the obvious age error, it looks like the seller might be looking for a date!

Free clothespins too!


LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3210229951&category=1400

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Post# 26833-2/23/2003-18:20 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Who makes house calls?
MESSAGE: Hi Don -

This should be a relatively easy job to replace the timer. Here are the part numbers for when you call Midwest Timer Service:

If your serial number has "TD" in it, the timer part number is: 7531614.

If your serial number has "VD" in it, the timer part number is: 7531268



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Post# 26834-2/23/2003-18:23 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Guess what came...
MESSAGE: Hi Jamie

Post the pics!!!
Good luck with your new machine, you must be very excited.
I hope someone here can give you advice about fixing the machine. I'm no real help to you as I don't know anything about Kenmore washers. My guesses would be: sticky timer -> replace timer. Wonky suspension -> is it suspended on rods like the bigger Whirlpools? Maybe one of them was damaged in transit. Noise -> may be related to the suspension if the works are hanging wrongly. Leaks-> again, may have been damaged in transit, is it a cracked rubber hose, or a cracked plastic part? If it's a hose, they are easy to replace. Were any of these troubles apparent when you looked at the washer in the store? If not, I'd suspect transit damage.

Good luck with it Jamie
Chris.


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Post# 26835-2/23/2003-18:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Check out this Montgomery Ward Set
MESSAGE: This is cool - I wonder if the suds return still worked. There were several Signature models out on the SD farm from around this period, even a couple of 10lb solid tub washers.

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Post# 26836-2/23/2003-18:31 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Guess what came...
MESSAGE: That's too bad - hopefully you can get it fixed soon! Is water leaking from the pump or the hoses? I hope they are both easy repairs, remember to be careful when checking things out underneath. Good luck - Greg

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Post# 26837-2/23/2003-18:46 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: comercial Garland Range 40+yrs old
MESSAGE: I am looking for anyone that can help locate a thermostat for a model 2-280, part # g01969-1 , They call it a saftey valve. This unit is 40+ yrs old. If anyone can at least point me in the right direction It would be greatly appreciated mikepaquette@sympatico.ca

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Post# 26838-2/23/2003-19:18 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Check out this Montgomery Ward Set
MESSAGE: And they seem to scream "NORGE 15" - especially the agitator and multi position dryer door!!

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Post# 26839-2/23/2003-20:38 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Check out this Montgomery Ward Set (Montgomery Ward Set )
MESSAGE: Robert,
This is a real nice set. Are they in good shape?
Peter

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Post# 26840-2/23/2003-20:45 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: 1954 Kenmore Washer Manual!
MESSAGE: Hi Everyone! Here's a 1954 automatic washer manual on ebay. Surely one of you boys will want this! Mark MANUAL KENMORE AUTOMATIC WASHER 1954
Item # 3208992240
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3208992240&category=13596

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Post# 26841-2/23/2003-21:07 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: 1949 Bendix Economat
MESSAGE: Here's another !!!Bendix Economat instruction book.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3209011063&category=13596

And Another!!!

New Old Stock Norge Washer Timer!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2308784780&category=20714

And another! Kenmore washer manual
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2309373604&category=20714

and another! Westinghouse Laundromat manual
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2309429907&category=20624



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Post# 26842-2/23/2003-22:09 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Question about Cool Down (Maytag)
MESSAGE: The Maytag process set down in other posts is correct. And, after the last partial drain, there was a full drainout using a short, fast spin, rather than a slow speed spin.

Does anybody know if even early Maytags from the late 50s used this cool-down process? The earliest I ever knew of it was the 1967 redesign (family friends had a '67 avocado).

Interestingly, the commercial washing machines switched to a different method in the mid 1980s - a 2-3 minute pause between wash and spin. Never understood why they were different.

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Post# 26843-2/23/2003-22:12 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Question about Cool Down ('61 or '62 KM)
MESSAGE: Quesstion: Another family friend had a pre-programmed '61 Kenmore (you know, ABCD timer dial). It would switch to a gentle agitation for about 4 minutes, then drain at normal speed. Is that normal, or was her machine messed up somehow?

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Post# 26844-2/23/2003-22:18 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Question about Cool Down ('61 or '62 KM)
MESSAGE: Probably normal. One of my aunts had an alphabet near-TOL Kenmore that did the same thing.

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Post# 26845-2/23/2003-23:45 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Honey, I'm home ...
MESSAGE: Todd I'm glad your PC is fixed. And welcome back. However, SOMEONE could have called me during that time , I would have helpe alleviate your withdrawl and kept you up to date as to what was going on.

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Post# 26846-2/24/2003-00:12 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Check out this Montgomery Ward Set
MESSAGE: ROBERT!!! This is the Monkey Wards set that corresponded to our 12/23/64 Norge 15. But ours didn't have the scrubber cap on the agitator top. I noticed this only had a bleach dispenser. And of course, the filter tray is missing at the back, they always wore out the big tooth that locked it into that recepticle at the back. Same gray colors as the washer across the street that was the 14 pound one that replaced the L110 Westy. This is the same household that eventually had the Hotpoint touch command dryer. Our machine also had the same 8 cycles and the soak cycle. Wouldn't be surprised the 8 programs matched exactly. Would have loved to see the cycle chart on the underside of the lid as well as a better closeup of the most left two knobs. That was an infinite water level for sure. Would have also loved to see what the dryer looked like. Yup, the dryer door was the same as ours though, along with the opening button above the door. Bob

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Post# 26847-2/24/2003-00:14 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Check out this Montgomery Ward Set
MESSAGE: Scott, instead of alphabets, our Norge had numbers 1-8 on the dial. Bob

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Post# 26848-2/24/2003-00:21 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Nice Maytag Dryer... Right that is a dryer.
MESSAGE: From the font on the timer dial for the numbers, it appears to be a dryer from the late 60s rto early 70ss before they enlarged the drum. This also appears to be an On Premises laundry dryer, whre the users didn't need to have a coin slot. Like in a nursing home or a small hotel motel laundry. Regualr fabrics was high heat, Perm Press was low heat.

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Post# 26849-2/24/2003-00:27 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Check out this Montgomery Ward Set
MESSAGE: You got that right anthony. I still pine for that multi position dryer door. Taht was ingenious. Wish Whirlpool offered that today. I loved the fact I could open it to the first position, plop the clothes from the washer as I was unloading it onto the dryer door and they would slide right on down into the dryer drum. No flinging of wet laundry into the dryer drum like today. Very civilized. And when the safety dwitch stuck, I could open the dryer door to begin hanging up perm press items while it was tumbling and nothing would blow out on the floor from that terrific blower mechanism!!!!

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Post# 26850-2/24/2003-00:32 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Question about Cool Down (Maytag)
MESSAGE: Chris, Maytag didn't offer anytype of cool down for Perm Press until 1967 or 1968. They were last ot offer such a feature. However, I fashioned my own type of cool down. I'd let it start spinning out the water and just as I could hear the water level switch reset while pumping out, I would advance the timer to the spray rinse (the snapping timer that is) and position it on the timer dial such that it would end up with another increment that would keep it in that spray rinse, of course with the cold water button pushed by that time to have the cold spray rinse since the warm water button also had a warm rinse. (unless the model had the rotating rinse temp dial on the left top of the control panel). Bob

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Post# 26851-2/24/2003-00:38 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Question about Cool Down ('61 or '62 KM)
MESSAGE: Nope, very very normal. At that time, the KM & WP w'n'w cycles were pretty much identical. Shiftr from fast to slow agitation at about the 4 or 6 minute mark. Then at cool down, would drain at normal speed and fill with cold water several times in a series of fills & drains without agitation. This was even the case for our next door neighbor that had a 1960 or 1961 model 70 washer that was non-alphabet. It was about 1963 or 1964 that Kenmore diversed from WP with a different sequence. It kept the normal agitation through out the wash cycle, then shifting to slow speed drain for the cool down. I vaguely remember a model 70 from 1965 that had a puase after the drain stopped (tripped by water level reset) and then the water was added and a slow agitation. I don't think until about 1968 did they change the process again to incorporate the "infamou" slow agitation whiole it filled up phenomenon. Whirlpool never did this, it was a Kenmore "exclusive".

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Post# 26852-2/24/2003-00:46 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Check out this Montgomery Ward Set
MESSAGE: The neighbors washer also had two cycles. Regualr and short. The short had 3 or 1 minute settings. The rinse sequence was also called the soak cycle. Like I said, it was only rated for 14 pounds. It had 3 wter levels, 4 speed combinations, and 5 water temp combos. No dispensers. The regular wash cycle time was limited to only 10 minutes max, where as this signature 15 & ours had a 12 minute "super wash" setting.

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Post# 26853-2/24/2003-00:49 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Question about Cool Down ('61 or '62 KM)
MESSAGE: Bob, I think he's asking about the Normal cycle, not PP.  And yes, my aunt's Kenmore DID switch to slow agitation at the 4 min mark on the Normal cycle.  And actually, now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure it switched back to normal speed at the 2 min mark.  Wonder if this had something to do with the bleach dispenser activating at the 4 min mark??

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Post# 26854-2/24/2003-01:02 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Question about Cool Down ('61 or '62 KM)
MESSAGE: Hmmm. Or maybe he is asking about PP, since the subject at hand is cool downs . . .

:-)

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Post# 26855-2/24/2003-03:49 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: A true match!
MESSAGE: I wish that this dryer was on this side of the earth!
It would matches the control panel to my harvest gold washer that I'm in the process of cleaning and testing to find out what is wrong with her, but I refuse to go downstairs to work in the basement until it warms up a bit!! My Kenmore big control panel.

LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2309846362&category=20714

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Post# 26856-2/24/2003-05:41 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: A true match!
MESSAGE: I don't know Larry - -a matched set might be really nice. Perhaps you should give yourself an early Christmas present!!!!

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Post# 26857-2/24/2003-07:43 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: A true match!
MESSAGE: Larry, I saw a set EXACTLY like this in gold in VT a couple months ago. I had not bought a truck yet and asked the appliance dealer to hold them for me until I could rent a truck and come back up in two weeks. I offered him money and he said no, no.........no problem I will set them aside and just call before you come, so thank god I did because he then said "They're gone!" He said he forgot......Needless to say I was pretty bummed......

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Post# 26858-2/24/2003-11:39 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Check out this Montgomery Ward Set
MESSAGE: That's interesting Bob, I never knew that. I have seen the numbered buttons on Norges in pictures, but did not realize they had corresponding match points on the dial. The later ones (at least the Signature ones, which I saw far more of) if I remember correctly, still had all the buttons, but I think they chose the speed and temp, and it was up to you to set the dial for time and etc.

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Post# 26859-2/24/2003-11:52 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Check out this Montgomery Ward Set
MESSAGE: That is a great idea, and I never knew until this club that Norge ever offered such a door. I always thought it was strictly a Sears thing (I didn't even realize Whirlpool had it 'til many years after the fact). I wonder why they ever switched it to side opening.

I knew someone that had a Her Majesty Signature with a side door. An early one, where the handle served as a "tilt latch". It had the tilted control panel with full width light which also backlighted the controls. It was a good dryer and she had it for years, but sometimes the door was kind of stubborn when you'd try to close it again, it didn't want to latch. The tumble/no tumble was on the control panel, not inside the door. It sounded like a vacuum cleaner when you used no tumble.

Years later when I got my first Sears with a drying rack, I was dumbfounded as to how that was going to work when I couldn't turn off the tumbling. I didn't know 'til I checked it out that they had changed over the years where the back part didn't move. The neat thing about those is there is a duct that catches the air and directs it up through the rack.

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Post# 26860-2/24/2003-11:53 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Nice Maytag Dryer... Right that is a dryer.
MESSAGE: Oh of course, that makes sense. I see the resemblance now to the panels on the coinop Maytags.

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Post# 26861-2/24/2003-12:05 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Check out this Montgomery Ward Set
MESSAGE: Bob, were the Norge/Wards machines popular in your area? I never saw much of anything Norge, I don't think there were even any dealers in our immediate area, though I'm sure there were in some areas of the twin cities. I didn't see a whole lot of Signatures either (I actually see them more now at sales) but I'm sure there were a fair amount since we had Wards stores all over and they would have good sales.

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Post# 26862-2/24/2003-12:06 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: A true match!
MESSAGE: I may consider doing it, but I must find out the shipping charges before making the final decision!

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Post# 26863-2/24/2003-12:11 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A true match!
MESSAGE: The first townhouse we looked at in this development which was being sold by its original owner (30 years) had a matched set of these in white. I wanted to get that one, just for the w/d set! The one we finally got also had the original set but it was the very BOL that today they would call "Capri" or "Galaxy" or some such thing. There was no filter on the side of the tub, so it either had self cleaning even though it was BOL or none at all. Even the BOL then had the porcelain top and lid.

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Post# 26864-2/24/2003-12:18 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: A true match!
MESSAGE: Greg I think I would go stir crazy if that happened to me....
This 1972 unit was the top of the line for its time with the Kenmore's triple dispenser feature. It's one awesome looking machine for that era and I wished that you would have gotten that set!
We must hope that there is another pair floating around with your name on it for you to pick up make a perfect home them!

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Post# 26865-2/24/2003-12:25 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: A true match!
MESSAGE: I think it was called "Capri" back in the 70's for the BOL with the manual lint filter. I like to called them "Bare Bottoms" for the price Sears sold them for.

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Post# 26866-2/24/2003-12:41 ||| dalangdon (Seattle, WA)
SUBJECT: Today's POD
MESSAGE: I've been looking for this ad for ages! I first saw it in a magazine years ago, and then lost the magazine someplace. The idea of the poor guy with the radioactive wash load is just too weird.

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Post# 26867-2/24/2003-12:44 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: Kaiser dishwasher ???
MESSAGE: talked to (dishwasher) through profiles in here. I told him his name caught my attention & asked if he had any info he cared to share on the subject. He was in only once to see if he could learn anything about the Kaiser dishwasher his parents had when he was growing up. Anyone ever heard of such a dishwasher ???

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Post# 26868-2/24/2003-12:50 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: chat room
MESSAGE: I have tried a few times & this room does not get much attention, Im in there now but seems I am the only one who goes in. Did not notice the chat room on the home page.

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Post# 26869-2/24/2003-14:00 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: chat room
MESSAGE: There was a bit of action Saturday afternoon.

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Post# 26870-2/24/2003-14:26 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD
MESSAGE: Considering what is going on with North Korea and Iraq, I'm glad that more than a few of us have working Bendix washers in case of an attack! We'll be doing wash and listening to the soundtrack of South Pacific... Gonna wash that radioactivity right out of our clothes...

-ph

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Post# 26871-2/24/2003-15:40 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Check out this Montgomery Ward Set
MESSAGE: We vacationed for two weeks in Wisconsin when I was about 7 or 8 and I got to see lots of basements and appliances on that trip. The lady we stayed with had just bought a Hoover spinner washer (replacing a wringer) and had this Signature dryer. I was fascinated with the door but never got to see it running. There was very little Norge and Signature around here, I didn't get to see any Norges running until I was in my 20's and had a Signature washer for a while.

There was also a gas model similar to this in the D.C. museum, there was something unique about it, I think that one has a modulating or variable burner. For a while during this time, Norge offered a lifetime rust warranty on the cabinets, materials only of course!

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Post# 26872-2/24/2003-15:44 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: A true match!
MESSAGE: When Jetaction (Don from Mpls.) was here last fall, we saw one of these washers at a thrift store. It was in very nice condition - and harvest gold too. Don't these have a timer dial light in the panel above them?

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Post# 26873-2/24/2003-15:53 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: A true match!
MESSAGE: Yes, it's looks like it uses a night light bulb over the timer dial.

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Post# 26874-2/24/2003-16:13 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD (Don't try this at home!)
MESSAGE: With the "duck and cover" and fallout shelter attitudes of the time, this advertising trick probably sold more than a few machines.

I guess my Bendix washers can be the start of my 'emergency supply kit' we're all supposed to have now.

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Post# 26875-2/24/2003-18:15 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD (Don't try this at home!)
MESSAGE: Greg, just make sure you seal around the door with duct tape! ;-)

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Post# 26876-2/24/2003-19:38 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: Off topic, BUT THERE'S AN ICE STORM GOING ON OUTSIDE
MESSAGE: Glad I have an indoor laundry room to do the 3 loads I did after I got home from work so that I don't have to worry about the power going down

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Post# 26877-2/24/2003-19:47 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Check out this Montgomery Ward Set
MESSAGE: Scott, I saw Norges all around up until the mid 1980s. And of course, Monkey Wards versions too. Some people refused to buy anything from Sears for some principal, of what I'm not sure of.

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Post# 26878-2/24/2003-19:50 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD
MESSAGE: THAT's the washer & drayer set my "grandparents" had, who also had the Youngstown dishwasher. Naturally, I was in appliance heaven when we'd go stay with them in Dallas.

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Post# 26879-2/24/2003-19:52 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD
MESSAGE: It's the radioactivity that made the whites dazzling LOL!!!!

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Post# 26880-2/24/2003-19:52 ||| bsmntfullosuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD (Bendix's Atomic Washers)
MESSAGE: Bendix developed a front-loader with a small built-in nuclear reactor, the exclusive Atomic Heater, to heat the wash water to boiling without the need for gas or a 240V outlet. As a bonus, it would irradiate the clothing, killing any odor-causing bacteria.

These washers were installed at no charge in a new housing development for testing. Due to the weight of the lead shielding, the Bendix washers had to be lowered into the basement of new homes with cranes, before the houses were built over the basement.

The project was not a success. The test families all died of mysterious ailments weeks after they started using the machines, so Bendix demolished the homes, encased the washers in lead, filled the basements with cement, had everyone who knew about the program "disappeared", and destroyed every trace of the program. Tall fences with signs "US GOVERNMENT PROPERTY KEEP OUT" surround the former tract home development. Only now can the truth be told ;)

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Post# 26881-2/24/2003-19:55 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Check out this Montgomery Ward Set
MESSAGE: I remember on the auto dry cycles (when mom let me use them or I snuck the timer onto auto dry), I'd hear the burner make a noise as if it awas coming on, but it was already on, and it seemed as if the flame had gone down a bit from what it was at the beginnning of the cycle. So hmmm. I learned something new about that dryer.

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Post# 26882-2/24/2003-19:56 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: A true match!
MESSAGE: Yes, there is an illuminating light over the timer dial above the panel.

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Post# 26883-2/24/2003-20:28 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Off topic, BUT THERE'S AN ICE STORM GOING ON OUTSIDE
MESSAGE: Send me some!

(How's the "train?")

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Post# 26884-2/24/2003-20:40 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Off topic, BUT THERE'S AN ICE STORM GOING ON OUTSIDE
MESSAGE: The "train" is hanging in there. It's 25 outside to boot!!! I'm sure power will be disrupted sometime during the night, just like it did December, 2000. Hope that huge cottonwood tree in my backyard remains upright.

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Post# 26885-2/24/2003-21:36 ||| bendix5 (oregon)
SUBJECT: pod
MESSAGE: Oh yes, please bring back the improved, high lift deep surge
Bendix Tumble Action Washer. Isn't that a beautiful machine. Just think how beautiful it was in 1954! Outstanding

A big hello to everyone too!!

Bendix5 (Dan)

How do you get into the chat room???

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Post# 26886-2/24/2003-22:11 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Thor Automagic Sink
MESSAGE: I bought a Thor appliance service manual on ebay and much to my delight, there was a clothes-dish washer sink combination that I'd never seen before.

I scanned a few of the pages quick to show tonight. The Thor Automagic is a fascinating appliance, more to dream about!

Click on the picture for the larger, readable version.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Ads+Articles+Brochures&.src=ph&.dnm=Automagic+Sink+1.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Ads%2bArticles%2bBrochures%26.src=ph%26.view=t

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Post# 26887-2/24/2003-22:14 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: pod
MESSAGE: Hi Dan, I agree - this is one of the machines I would love to find. Who couldn't love the Tip-Top control cover! This machine was introduced in 1956 and was only carried for 1 year when the design was changed again in '57 to top-rear controls.

Here is the link to the chat room:

Greg
LINK: http://users.wcnet.net/dadoes/appchat.html

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Post# 26888-2/24/2003-22:24 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: Nice Maytag Dryer... Right that is a dryer. (Institutional Dryer)
MESSAGE: I thought exactly the same thing myself as soon as I saw it, Bob, because of the shape of the control panel, which is designed like the coin-op machines. Interesting how those commercial-use machines always ended up in someone's home. Friends of mine when they first got married inherited an early 70s GE washer from grandparents that had either no water level or no temperature, and had a bright orange pilot light under the timer dial...and special lettering marking it as Institutional/Commercial.

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Post# 26889-2/24/2003-22:41 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Thor Automagic Sink
MESSAGE: I saw one on an episode of Extreme Homes on House and Garden Television. I've actually seen the episode more than once. It's with the show's original host Wendy something or other. It was in a house that was built of steel blocks. The washer/dishwasher/sink was original to the house. They didn't say who made it, but they showed it set up as both a dishwasher and a washer. They didn't say if it still worked. The first time that saw it, I rememember thinking: "Why would anyone want to wash dishes and clothes in same tub in the same machine!?! Yuck!" I do have to admit that it is a fascinating concept.

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Post# 26890-2/24/2003-22:43 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Question about Cool Down ('61 or '62 KM - only drained once)
MESSAGE: ...except that after the slow agitation, Mrs. Thornton's washer drained only ONCE and drained completely, then went immediately into spin.

Several high speed partial drains would explain something that baffled me when I went looking at old Sears catalogs at the library and saw a description of my parents' first washer - a 1961 middle of the line Kenmore. It was one speed only, but following the "You Get More With a Kenmore" philosophy, had a wash-n-wear feature on it, which the catalog entry explained was highly unusual for that model, and apparently a special offer.

Thanks for clearing something else up for me: I always wondered what the early 60s WPs did!!! Bunches of friends and neighbors had the mid grade model that looks like a Frigidaire control tower (circa 1962-1964), but none of these Whirlpool owners ever used their Wash-n-wear cycle.

Bob and DADoes: You remember the late 60s WP Imperials that had the double cool-down action? They also had a Super Wash on the PP cycle, instead of just on the Regular cycle, as in later years up to the present. In Super Wash mode, there was a fast agitation, followed by a slow agitation and several slow partial drains as DADoes set down in an earlier post (when he talked about the pressure switch controlling the amount of drains. Then the just as you thought it was going to switch to normal speed and drain all the way out, the thing would move *back* into slow speed agitation...*and do it all over again*. Way kewl.

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Post# 26891-2/24/2003-22:54 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Question about Cool Down (Back to Normal??? Hrmmmmm)
MESSAGE: That would be a yes, DADoes - the Cottons and Linens cycles worked as one would expect for that vintage; no slow agitation.

See my reply to Bob's post. The action on our friends' '62 Kenny was similar to present day Whirlpools, actually, except for going straight into a slow spin. Was that how your aunt's worked?

Do you remember seeing an early 60s model on silent auction at John's warehouse that Saturday night of the convention? This was the one with the alternating colored and white squares - blue for A, then white for B, then yellow for C, &c. It was sitting almost at the end of one of the middle rows. Anyhowsomever, that model matches the subject of this post perfectly. Did your aunt's look like that?

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Post# 26892-2/24/2003-22:56 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: Off topic, BUT THERE'S AN ICE STORM GOING ON OUTSIDE
MESSAGE: And headed our way, Bob. We are supposed to have sleet out here in Alabama until about 4 a.m.

Batten down the hatches!

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Post# 26893-2/24/2003-23:00 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: pod (Drainaway rinse)
MESSAGE: Im guessing the drainaway rinse the ad speaks of is the same action as Westy Laundromats used for decades, where the clothes are sprayed before the first spin?

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Post# 26894-2/25/2003-00:10 ||| Bill-MO (Brookline Station, MO)
SUBJECT: RE: Thor Automagic Sink
MESSAGE: Thank you so very much for the pics of the Thor Automagic Sink. I never knew that they had offered the Automagic Sink, only the Automagic Washer/Dishwasher. Had always wondered how one would go about changing the tubs back and forth, now I know! :-)))

Would love to see more pics of the rest of the Thor Service Manual, but only when you have the time to scan and post them.




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Post# 26895-2/25/2003-00:14 ||| Bill-MO (Brookline Station, MO)
SUBJECT: RE: Off topic, BUT THERE'S AN ICE STORM GOING ON OUTSIDE
MESSAGE: We got around 9 inches of snow here last Sunday...and they're still forecasting freezing rain, sleet and light snow Wednesday onto Thursday for my area!

Here's to (hopefully) a quick thaw for everyone...and no more white stuff falling from the sky!!!




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Post# 26896-2/25/2003-02:32 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Thor Automagic Sink
MESSAGE: A lot of people probably thought yuck, and I think that's why they always pointed out that "nothing that touched your clothes ever touched your dishes" or something like that. I've only known of one person who had first hand experience with one of these, and they did not have the dishwasher, which was an optional accessory. I guess it was quite good as a washer, however. Imagine being able to overflow rinse your clothes for as long as you want! :-)

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Post# 26897-2/25/2003-04:35 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Thor Automagic Sink
MESSAGE: Isn't this a cute thing? I would love to play with one. Thanks for sharing!

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Post# 26898-2/25/2003-05:09 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire 1953 stove soupwell question
MESSAGE: This Frigidaire stove that is on sale has a soupwell. I have seen this before on other stoves, but my question is, do you take away an element to put the soupwell in it, or is this just a stove with three burners and a soupwell? I guess that soupwell has it's own heating element in the bottom?

Louis
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2511122540&category=364

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Post# 26899-2/25/2003-07:06 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Thor Automagic Sink (That is so interesting Greg! Thanks!)
MESSAGE: Greg,
I bet that operation instruction are as rare as the machine!
Thanks for posting.
Does it say anything about the specs. of the two different tubs? Like weight? I would think that the was tub for the clothes would be somewhat heavy. I guess that you would get great looking arms from using this machine daily for both your clothes and your dishes from the workout of changing the tubs.
Thanks for sharing!
Brent

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Post# 26900-2/25/2003-07:28 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire 1953 stove soupwell question
MESSAGE: On my range with the soupwell, the element is lowered by hand to the bottom of the well and then the kettle inserted. If it were clean, I'd take a picture for you ;-) With the element up, you can use it as a normal burner and just use the kettle when you need it.

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Post# 26901-2/25/2003-07:32 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Thor Automagic Sink (That is so interesting Greg! Thanks!)
MESSAGE: I didn't see anything about the weight of the tubs, the dishwasher tub specs mention "lightweight" stainless, but when Scott was here two years ago and we saw one in a museum, the washer tub was fairly heavy and then there is the oil-filled balance ring that goes in first... A mini-workout for the homemaker! I would think it would still be better than the back breaking work of laundry "the old fashioned way!"

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Post# 26902-2/25/2003-07:38 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Thor Automagic Sink
MESSAGE: This book also includes service info for the automatic washers and dryers which had just been introduced. I was a little surprised to find that the automatic washer used virtually the same mechanism as the washer/dishwasher.

An interesting part of the dishwasher was that the mechanism allowed for lower part of the tub to spin at the same time the water "scoop" assembly was oscillating to spray the dishes. All with only 2 quarts of water too!

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Post# 26903-2/25/2003-07:40 ||| frigilux (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: POD: Frigidaire Jet Action
MESSAGE: I want one!! I want one!! I want one!!!!!!

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Post# 26904-2/25/2003-07:48 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD: Frigidaire Jet Action
MESSAGE: I do too!!

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Post# 26905-2/25/2003-08:38 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Off topic, BUT THERE'S AN ICE STORM GOING ON OUTSIDE (Ice rink)
MESSAGE: I could go ice skating on my street this morning if I wanted to.

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Post# 26906-2/25/2003-08:45 ||| mulls (Johnson City,Tn)
SUBJECT: RE: Off topic, BUT THERE'S AN ICE STORM GOING ON OUTSIDE (Ice rink)
MESSAGE: Ice and snow coming to Tennessee also-it would be a good day to wash a few loads in a "new"Frigidaire custom imperial!4 spin speeds-wow.

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Post# 26907-2/25/2003-08:51 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Thor Automagic Sink (That is so interesting Greg! Thanks!)
MESSAGE: Brent, back then you washed on Mondays. (in theory, maybe actuality), the rest of the time, you kept the dishwasher tub in it. The man of the house would change the tubs I guess Sunday night in preparation for the housewife to do wash on Monday. LOL

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Post# 26908-2/25/2003-09:02 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD: Frigidaire Jet Action
MESSAGE: Me too me too me too!!!!

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Post# 26909-2/25/2003-09:40 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Off topic, BUT THERE'S AN ICE STORM GOING ON OUTSIDE (bring in the pets and appliances)
MESSAGE: The storm is supposed to hit GA later today. Over the weekend, I found a '68 Frigidaire Custom Deluxe washer at one of my places. I guess I will have to pick it up and save it from the wrath of the elements, but I have NO ROOM!!!

-ph

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Post# 26910-2/25/2003-12:20 ||| washerlover (northern California)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Thank you)
MESSAGE: Hi,

Thanks again for responding. Now I don't feel so "out of it" and am now in serious search mode for some classic machines. I enjoy reading about everyone's adventures and hope to share some of my own in the near future. It's also reassuring to know that if I need advise finding parts, etc. there are people out there to help!

Take care and see ya in Applianceville!

Todd

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Post# 26911-2/25/2003-12:22 ||| washerlover (northern California)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Hi to UK!)
MESSAGE: Hi,

And here I thought everyone on this website had a garage full of mint classic washers & dryers! Now I don't feel so bad.

I do have to say I am mechanically inclined and now have renewed faith to start searching for a classic washer & dryer. I just learned of an appliance graveyard about a 2-hour drive from here so can't wait to explore it and hopefully bring something home to play with!

Take care,

Todd


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Post# 26912-2/25/2003-12:24 ||| washerlover (northern California)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Hello)
MESSAGE: Hi Mark,

I'm so happy to see the outpouring of responses to my email. I love reading about everyone's comments and "finds" and hope to share some of my own soon.

And speaking of Wash-Ins, when is the next convention? I saw some messages that said it was going to be in Boston but no more details than that. Do you happen to know?

Thanks and take care,

Todd


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Post# 26913-2/25/2003-12:28 ||| washerlover (northern California)
SUBJECT: RE: Check out this Montgomery Ward Set (Montgomery Ward Signature Set)
MESSAGE: Wow! What a find! I would have driven from California to Minnesota to buy these two. I'm looking for Wards Signature '62 or '63 but these would do nicely for me! They must be around '65 as that's when Wards changed the way the "Signature" logo handwriting appeared.

Thanks for sharing the pics!

Todd


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Post# 26914-2/25/2003-13:06 ||| washerlover (northern California)
SUBJECT: RE: Check out this Montgomery Ward Set (South Dakota Appliance Grave Yard)
MESSAGE: Hi,

I'd love to learn more about this place in SD. I saw it on someone's video and it looked like paradise! Where exactly is it in SD? And if there are more Signature machines there, I'm very interested -- I've been looking for early 60s Signature washers & dryers and haven't had much luck here in California.

Thanks and hope to hear from you soon,

Todd


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Post# 26915-2/25/2003-13:35 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Hi to UK!)
MESSAGE: Welcome to the club, Washerlover! Best wishes on your search for classic appliances, and if you are mechanically inclined you will have a leg up on making them run and keeping them running! There are so many folks here as you've already surmised that can help you with questions about parts and various procedures and other things. Enjoy!

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Post# 26916-2/25/2003-14:30 ||| rapidry1000 (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Hi to UK!)
MESSAGE: Hi Fellow Northern Californian
Where is this appliance graveyard in Northern California. I live in San Francisco and there are no graveyards that I know of. Even finding a second hand appliance store is a rarity.

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Post# 26917-2/25/2003-15:20 ||| BsmntFullOSuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: POD: Frigidaire Jet Action (Oldsmobile Jetaway)
MESSAGE: I see GM borrowed the name Jetaway from the Oldsmobile division. The 1965 Jetaway was a two-speed automatic transmission used on lower-priced Oldsmobiles.

Nice washer!

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Post# 26918-2/25/2003-15:20 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Check out this Montgomery Ward Set (South Dakota Appliance Grave Yard)
MESSAGE: The Appliance Grave Yard in SD is being cleaned up and hauled off due to environmental concerns and other isssues.

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Post# 26919-2/25/2003-15:22 ||| BsmntFullOSuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: Classic lawn and garden sites (mowers, snowblowers, etc)?
MESSAGE: Any good web sites on classic gasoline-powered appliances like lawn mowers and snowblowers?

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Post# 26920-2/25/2003-15:31 ||| JoeEkaitis (Rialto, California, USA)
SUBJECT: February 25 POD: What? No World's Fair reference?!? :)
MESSAGE: Coming from a September 1964 magazine, I'm surprised and disappointed that the Frigidaire Jet Action washer ad didn't invite the reader to "Visit the NEW GM Futurama at the 1964 New York World's Fair."

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Post# 26921-2/25/2003-16:01 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: POD: Frigidaire Jet Action
MESSAGE: I have one. 1966' Honey Beige set. I will be posting pics soon for all plus my other toys.

Hope everyone is well.

Cheers

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Post# 26922-2/25/2003-16:58 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Check out this Montgomery Ward Set (South Dakota Appliance Grave Yard)
MESSAGE: Who told you that??

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Post# 26923-2/25/2003-17:01 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Hi to UK!)
MESSAGE: Good luck in your hunting, these old gems are still out there, just waiting to be discovered.

Greg

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Post# 26924-2/25/2003-18:05 ||| Tuske350 (Los Angeles, CA)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire door seal hunt
MESSAGE: Hi:

I am searching for a Frigidaire refridgerator door seal, only to not have any luck locating the correct design. The store where I purchased my fridge from can not (or has not) located one either. Everything that looks close I am told "no, that's not it"... Can I use something close? Does it matter? This is my main/ only fridge so I need it to work efficiently. I would prefer to keep it "correct" but function must come first since I use this baby. I am not even sure how to identify my exact year/ model. It is a single door item, I am guessing from the 1950's. If there is a tag or plate somehwere- please let me know, or if you want, I can send pics. Thank you for your help!

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Post# 26925-2/25/2003-18:59 ||| washerlover (northern California)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Graveyard)
MESSAGE: Hi,

I have someone checking into a graveyard in South Sacramento. Will keep you posted!

I did find a second-hand store in Ukiah last month. (I live up in Lake County -- moved up here 3 years ago from the Bay Area) They had a few interesting appliances there. Definitely worth checking in every month or so to see "new" inventory.

I'll let you know if I find anything out about the place in Sacto.

Take care,

Todd


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Post# 26926-2/25/2003-19:00 ||| washerlover (northern California)
SUBJECT: RE: Check out this Montgomery Ward Set (South Dakota Appliance Grave Yard)
MESSAGE: Oh my God what a shame!!! Where else can we go to find this stuff?

Todd

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Post# 26927-2/25/2003-21:55 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire 1953 stove soupwell question (Frigidaire Stove Soupwell or how I spent my summer vacation)
MESSAGE: When I was 8 or 9, my parents rented an old farmhouse in Tannersville, Pennsylvania for our annual two week summer vacaction. We spent a lot of time swimming, and hiking and rowing boats, etc. Pretty exciting stuff for a lifeline City slicker. Mom didn't get a vaction from cooking and there was a Frigidaire electric stove with a pot that dropped into a recessed burner at the left rear of the cooktop. I had never seen anything quite like it before and to say that I was fascinated by it would be an understatement. The baking and broil elements in the oven and the element for the recessed burner looked like springs that glowed orange when they were turned on. (Yep! I was fascinated by those too.!) The other three cooktop elements were the familiar looking electric elements. The stove was about 36" wind and had one signal light for the burners (including recessed one) and another for the oven.

I've seen similar recessed pots (including at least one for a gas stove) and at least one recessed pressure cooker on www.antiqueappliances.com. Now that I'm older, I'm still fascinated by this arrangment, but I can't imagine wanting one. You effectively are reduced to having three cooking surfaces on the stove top. I don't always use the same size pot or pan and there are times when I need to use all four burners. (I have a gas stove.)

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Post# 26928-2/25/2003-22:00 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: POD: Frigidaire Jet Action
MESSAGE: I want one too!

I actually remember seeing this ad in one of my mom's magazines when I was a kid. A neighbor and one of my aunts had Frigidaire pusators. I was always fascinated by those and tried to convince mom that we should replace our 1960 boring Maytag (who wants a washer that stops everytime you open the lid!) with a Frigidaire Jetcone. Needless to say, I didn't get very far.

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Post# 26929-2/25/2003-22:10 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire 1953 stove soupwell question (Frigidaire Stove Soupwell or how I spent my summer vacation)
MESSAGE: Mike, on the Frigidaire (and on most ranges of this type that I know of) you can remove the recessed pot and it can be changed into a regular surface element, so you would still have the four, if you didn't want to use the deep well cooker.

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Post# 26930-2/25/2003-22:39 ||| david (bossier city, La)
SUBJECT: RE: Check out this Montgomery Ward Set
MESSAGE: Hi Scott. Haven't sent much to the discussions, I know. Havn't been on the net in a few days. Truthfully, Norge and Wards were never the biggest sellers, but we did own a timeline when I was a kid. Down here in Shreveport, beginning in the late 50's-early 60's, the local gas company began hawking Norge gas dryers with the drop down in the front exhaust door(eliminated the need for the correct outdoor vent) and the pilot light that was accessed inside a small door that lifted on top of the dryer. These models were financed by the gas co. with monthly payments on the bill. Hundreds of them were sold through the early 70's until gas co. started selling WP. Norge developed a bad reputation for quality during those years. At everyone's house I knew that had one, it was always paired with a you guessed it-Kenmore or Maytag. I know I haven't contributed much here, but it's just a little piece of my past.

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Post# 26931-2/25/2003-22:54 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Question about Cool Down ('61 or '62 KM - only drained once)
MESSAGE: Whirlpool's two-stage Perm Press cool down went well past the early 1960s, and wasn't limited to the Imperial line.  Our 1976 Supreme 80 had it -- until the timer was changed to a replacment that had a one-stage cool down, and I think with 4 mins of agitation instead of two to use up the space on the dial.

The Super Wash I recall had up to six minutes of agitation at high speed (on both Normal and PP), did one partial drain (until the water level reset), then paused the rest of the timer increment and continued on to refill for the main wash.  I vaguely recall there was an additional two minutes of pause (a pseudo-soak) after the partial drain on my grandparents' late 1960s Supreme 80 (before the Supreme 80 was an 18-pounder).  Our Supreme 80 had Super Wash only on Normal, and I don't think it had the extra two minutes of pause.

I don't recall a Super Wash as you describe, but I very well could have missed it!

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Post# 26932-2/25/2003-22:59 ||| Tommyr (Blaine, WA)
SUBJECT: Fridgidaire Compact 30
MESSAGE: Can anyone help us find a thermostat for our beloved Fridgidaire Compact 30 , Model# BC 30L, Serial# 2C-117506? Our baby is in mint condition and part of the family. We can't locate a thermostate and need help from an expert.

thomasrivers@hotmail.com

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Post# 26933-2/25/2003-23:42 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: Check out this Montgomery Ward Set (Washerlover: Where to go instead)
MESSAGE: Just make sure that should there be a convention this year, you show yourself up. You got stuff there better than any junkyard. You will kick your own behind 100 times and cry 96 tears if you miss it.

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Post# 26934-2/25/2003-23:51 ||| Max-extract (vancouver)
SUBJECT: rca stacking frontloader
MESSAGE: Hi: Great to find this site. I have just seen an RCA FL stacker that has a weigh to save door and the model on the inside of the door is WSE 400. Any ideas? Westinghouse, but from what period?

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Post# 26935-2/25/2003-23:53 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Question about Cool Down (Those Whirlpools Were Tight!)
MESSAGE: Welllllll, I saw this Perm Press Super Wash on a 1967 model only, and it was a few short years ago I saw it.

It just sunk in that your family had a '76 model - the same year as my Dad's Harvest Gold beauty. I remember that washer doing only one partial drain, pausing, and refilling.

It's been almost 10 years since I last witnessed an old Whirlpool going through its paces - someone help me remember if rinse agitation was slow also...

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Post# 26936-2/25/2003-23:58 ||| geoff (Connecticut)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Question about Cool Down (Those Whirlpools Were Tight!)
MESSAGE: Yes, rinse agitation was slow as well, My Whirlpool is a 76 model and has the same stats. Actually I was just reading the lid while I was down in the basement. and it lists a super permanent press wash. (which mine doesnt have) the last four minutes of the Perm Press cycle is slow speed and from there on in, it's slow speed throughout the entire rest of the cycle..

Geoff

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Post# 26937-2/25/2003-23:59 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: rca stacking frontloader
MESSAGE: And great to have you join us, sir or ma'am.

Dunno what period, but it was in the mid to late 80s that Westy started badging some of its stackable twins with the Kenmore badge and selling 'em through Sears.

What do the dials on the control panel look like? That will help determine the era.

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Post# 26938-2/26/2003-00:01 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Question about Cool Down (Those Whirlpools Were Tight!)
MESSAGE: thank you sir!!!

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Post# 26939-2/26/2003-00:01 ||| geoff (Connecticut)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Question about Cool Down (Those Whirlpools Were Tight!)
MESSAGE: You are MOST welcome :)

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Post# 26940-2/26/2003-01:29 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD: Frigidaire Jet Action
MESSAGE: My godfather's wife had one of these washers, but it was in white. It replaced a WO65. I loved it as it gradually switched spin speeds for the final spin. This same machine was replaced witha 1/18.

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Post# 26941-2/26/2003-02:54 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire 1953 stove soupwell question
MESSAGE: Thanks for explaining! I thought your house would be Spic & Span 24/7! ;-)

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Post# 26942-2/26/2003-04:02 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: POD (Slap.....)
MESSAGE: The POD is so good that I must SLAP the announcer for telling me to see my General Electric dealer, and you will never wash anything by hand-except yourself!

Greta, these mens are so.... fresh!

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Post# 26943-2/26/2003-05:13 ||| kirk280980 (Lincoln UK)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Hi to UK!)
MESSAGE: Half the fun is in the anticipation of starting and expanding your collection! I know there are a couple of machines from my childhood and earlier which I'd love to find some day, and I'm going to be like a kid in a sweet shop when I finally have room to bring something home.

The mechanical aspect is something I'd like to teach myself once my collection begins, again that's something I'm pretty excited about too. I can only imagine just how satisfying it must be to take a junked appliance and turn it into a showpiece.

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Post# 26944-2/26/2003-07:41 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Slap.....)
MESSAGE: I love it. ".....washing system so powerful ...... so relentless .... dirt cannot hide". Hmm, yup, that fast 100 short stroke per minute activator. Not as bad as a shredmore, but fabrics didn't survive tons of washings I bet. I've often wondered, what was the difference in accumulation of lint in the filter-flo pan for the original GE design with FF vs. this "new" design with the quicker agitation. Granted my 1978 GE washer used the same design and fabrics weren't treated as badly as with the current shredmore, but I did notice seams popping on sweats and other knitty type of stuff, so I would do those on gentle too. But I also felt the ramped activator's resulting wash action was a bit more gentle than the straight-vane activator I had in my machine.

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Post# 26945-2/26/2003-07:52 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Check out this Montgomery Ward Set (South Dakota Appliance Grave Yard)
MESSAGE: Hi Todd, click on this link to see pictures of the SD graveyard as it was when I first discovered it...
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/unimatic1140/lst?.dir=/Z_Sacred+Junkyard&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/unimatic1140/lst%3f%26.dir=/%26.src=ph%26.view=t

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Post# 26946-2/26/2003-08:39 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Mini-Basket in today's POD
MESSAGE: Check out how little the mini-basket is in today's picture of the day. I believe this is the very first model to introduce the basket. I would love to see this machine sometime, I think the ad is from '63, possibly '64.

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Post# 26947-2/26/2003-09:28 ||| chrisfa1 (Northridge, CA)
SUBJECT: Gas Refrigerator Warning
MESSAGE: If anyone is still using antique gas-fueled refrigerators, you may want to read this warning from the Consumer Products Safety Commission.


LINK: http://www.esafety.com/esafety_cfmfiles/esafety.cfm?N=804

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Post# 26948-2/26/2003-09:37 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Slap.....) (GE Lintorators)
MESSAGE: In most loads, you will get a lint ball in the Filter-Flo that is about 3/4 inch in diameter, or 2 or 3 lint balls about 1/4 - 1/2 in diameter. Because of the ramp and the angle of the fins, this machine is not a big lint producer, IMHO. The clothes get moved by the suck of the water going around the ramps, not by the fins themselves. Now the straight vane Activators are a different story. Gansky can address that.

-ph

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Post# 26949-2/26/2003-09:39 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Check out this Montgomery Ward Set (South Dakota Appliance Grave Yard)
MESSAGE: Here are my pics from when I was there with Gansky and FilterFlo last June...

-ph
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/lst?.dir=/Farm+pics&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/

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Post# 26950-2/26/2003-09:44 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Mini-Basket in today's POD (I'va got one)
MESSAGE: I got one of these Mini-Baskets when I was at the Farm...

Jeez, looking at the Farm pics almost makes me want to go back and find more things to rescue... So sad...

-ph
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/vwp?.dir=/Farm+pics&.src=ph&.dnm=ABDge.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/lst%3f%26.dir=/Farm%2bpics%26.src=ph%26.view=t

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Post# 26951-2/26/2003-09:55 ||| washerlover (northern California)
SUBJECT: RE: Check out this Montgomery Ward Set (Convention)
MESSAGE: You bet I'll be there! I was drooling over the photos of the last couple conventions!!

Take care,

Todd

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Post# 26952-2/26/2003-10:19 ||| washerlover (northern California)
SUBJECT: RE: Check out this Montgomery Ward Set (SD Appliance Grave Yard)
MESSAGE: Hi,

These photos are awesome! Thank you for sharing them with me. Is it true that this place is being dismantled? I'm sick over it. I hope the one in Phoenix is still intact because I'm planning a trip down there soon and was also considering heading over to SD to check this place out.

Thanks again and my search continues!

Take care,

Todd

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Post# 26953-2/26/2003-10:30 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: GE Agitators
MESSAGE: Pardon my stupidity boys as I have not worked on a GE top loader yet, so I have a few questions now that I have three! I just found a GE dispensall with the straight vane agitator. Can this agitator be switched out with the GE swirl type? AND How do I get the darn thing off? Thanks, Mark

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Post# 26954-2/26/2003-10:31 ||| washerlover (northern California)
SUBJECT: RE: Check out this Montgomery Ward Set (South Dakota Appliance Grave Yard)
MESSAGE: Hi Peter,

Your pix are to die for. And did you find your "glamour pair" there as well? What luck! I'm so jealous! Do you have updated photos of these?

Can anyone confirm if this place is still there? I'd love to go.

Thanks and take care,

Todd





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Post# 26955-2/26/2003-11:19 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Agitators (replacement tips)
MESSAGE: Grab the bottom and yank up hard. Most of them were snap on/snap off. If not, you will have to cut into the top of the agitator and see if there is a screw holding it down.

When swapping out GE agitators, you have to look out the number of splines in the agitator drive shaft. Seems to me that they had some with a different number than others, like one was 16 and one was 24, something like that.

-ph

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Post# 26956-2/26/2003-11:27 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Check out this Montgomery Ward Set (South Dakota Appliance Grave Yard)
MESSAGE: No, no Glamour Pair for me. All the machines up there are in ROUGH shape, and that's putting it nicely. I got a Philco Dryer and a Frigidaire Laundry Center (skinny-mini agitub), along with various parts.

The place is really picked over now. There isn't much there that even a die hard restore master would ever consider. If it isn't completely rusted out, then it is sun faded and brittle. Or it is in the middle of the place surrounded by 50 refrigerators that would be impossible to move. You might want to go just to stand in the middle of the place for a moment of silence for all the lost machines, but you can do that in the comfort of your own home. It was really depressing -- literally, a field of broken dreams...

-ph

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Post# 26957-2/26/2003-12:08 ||| washerlover (northern California)
SUBJECT: RE: Check out this Montgomery Ward Set (SD)
MESSAGE: Hi Peter,

A field of broken dreams... I like that!

Thanks for the info on the place -- I guess I'm not missing as much as I thought but it sure would be fun just to look around at everything. I remember as a kid when we used to go to the local dump all the appliances would be set aside for people to take or use for parts. I used to love to look at everything.

Well, so much for South Dakota. I'm still searching for a place like it in California.

Take care,

Todd

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Post# 26958-2/26/2003-13:53 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Making beer in a washer
MESSAGE: Someone posted this on the appliance forum. It qualifies for here since the machine he is using is 35 years old. Too bad there wasn't a picture. He lives in Germany and I'm wondering what sort of toploader he is using!
LINK: http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/custom/fringe/sfl-225beer,0,7022823.story?coll=sfla%2Dnews%2Dfringe

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Post# 26959-2/26/2003-14:32 ||| JoeEkaitis (Rialto, California, USA)
SUBJECT: February 26 POD (GE Mini-Basket washer)
MESSAGE: Did this ad come from an American magazine, or did it run in a country where English isn't the primary language?

The text, lacking any contractions, has a middle elementary grade reading level, as if it was meant for an audience that speaks and reads English as a second language.

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Post# 26960-2/26/2003-14:54 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Making beer in a washer
MESSAGE: Yuck!

That would probably be a toploading H-axis. Perhaps even a Miele! But I wouldn't drink that beer, I can't imagine that the inners are really clean after using it for 35 years as a laundry machine.

Louis

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Post# 26961-2/26/2003-15:04 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: February 26 POD (GE Mini-Basket washer) (Good 'Ol USA)
MESSAGE: It came from a Good Housekeeping Magazine from the good 'ol USA.

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Post# 26962-2/26/2003-15:05 ||| BsmntFullOSuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: Gas Refrigerator Warning (Beware of old fridges with sulfur dioxide refrigerant too)
MESSAGE: Link with photos of the suited-up Hazmat team hauling away the fridge:

"On Friday, July 14, 2000, a refrigerator began leaking sulfur dioxide (SO2) gas when an employee accidentally damaged the freezer coil while defrosting the unit. The incident occurred in a room on the 6th floor of Bolton Hall. Two employees were exposed to the irritating gas and they called for assistance. The room was secured and the University Police promptly responded to this emergency. "

"Milwaukee Fire Department responded to a call for assistance from the University Police and set up a command post along Maryland Avenue and assumed control of the scene. Upon gathering additional information regarding the situation, the Milwaukee Fire Department decided the incident was better suited for the Hazardous Materials (Hazmat) Response team. Maryland Avenue was closed between Kenwood and Hartford from approximately 11 AM until 3:30 PM."

"The MFD requested the building be evacuated by the University Police in case any more SO2 escaped during removal of the refrigerator from the building. After evacuation was complete, the Hazmat team mobilized and proceeded on removing the refrigerator from the building at approximately 2:30 PM."

"This was a General Electric Type V-5-C 'home-style' refrigerator, capacity of 1.75 pounds of SO2 refrigerant."

"There are several key features that will help to quickly identify whether a refrigerator may have sulfur dioxide or ammonia refrigerant:


The evaporator coils are mounted on top of refrigerator (a museum piece!)
Refrigerator is roughly 5' to 5'6" tall.
Refrigerator has mechanical door latch (no magnetic closers).
Freezer box is inside of refrigerator (no 2 door or side-by-side designs).
Door seal is black rubber (no foam or magnetic weather stripping on door).
Refrigerator has cork or mineral wool insulation (no foam or fiberglass insulation).
Refrigerator is very heavy.
Sheet metal is very thick, shape is very rounded.
Brand names may possibly include Kelvinator, Gibson, Frigidaire, General Electric. "

"Sulfur dioxide, as well as ammonia and methylene chloride, was used as a refrigerant gas of choice in the 1940's and early 1950's until less toxic freon gas (now known to be environmentally unfriendly to the Earth's ozone layer) became widely available."

"We estimate that disposing of this old refrigerator on an emergency basis cost the campus in excess of $15,000 (including the lost time of the employees who were told to evacuate the building)! "




LINK: http://www.uwm.edu/Dept/EHSRM/CAMPUS/BOL/

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Post# 26963-2/26/2003-15:08 ||| washerlover (northern California)
SUBJECT: Used Appliance Website
MESSAGE: Hi,

Just stumbled across a website called "used.recycle.net" -- has anyone seen this and if so, has anyone had any luck finding anything on it? It looks interesting and was wondering if anyone had any experience in dealing with it.

Thanks,

Todd


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Post# 26964-2/26/2003-16:40 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Check out this Montgomery Ward Set (SD)
MESSAGE: A picture speaks a thousand words...
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/2002+Aberdeen+Appliance+Burial+Ground&.src=ph&.dnm=Dsc00026.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/2002%2bAberdeen%2bAppliance%2bBurial%2bGround%26.src=ph%26.view=t

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Post# 26965-2/26/2003-16:49 ||| washerlover (northern California)
SUBJECT: RE: Check out this Montgomery Ward Set (Jet Cone?)
MESSAGE: Hi Peter,

That's an awesome photo! Looks like an old Frigidaire Jet Cone that crash-landed? I used to play with one of those in the bathtub when I was a kid!

Take care,

Todd




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Post# 26966-2/26/2003-17:18 ||| washerlover (northern California)
SUBJECT: Whirlpool Twins on ebay
MESSAGE: Hi,

Just came across Whirlpool washer & dryer on ebay. Judging by the metal lid and dryer handles, they are probably late 70s models? I'm trying to track down the model numbers to see what the year of manufacture is. I might bid just for fun.

Todd

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Post# 26967-2/26/2003-18:03 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Twins on ebay
MESSAGE: Could you post a link? I could not find it under Whirlpool washer or washing machine. Thanks!

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Post# 26968-2/26/2003-18:22 ||| washerlover (northern California)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Twins on ebay (Link)
MESSAGE: Hi,

I can't get the link to work. I found it by entering "whirlpool washer" in the basic ebay search -- it appears as "whirlpool washer/dryer in siliconvalley!")

I'll keep trying the link -- time's running out to bid!

Thanks and sorry I'm so link-lame!

Todd

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Post# 26969-2/26/2003-18:26 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: February 26 POD (GE Mini-Basket washer) (Good 'Ol USA)
MESSAGE: I guess the ad doesn't deserve Joe's Good Housekeeping Seal of approval LOL

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Post# 26970-2/26/2003-18:35 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Twins on ebay (Link)
MESSAGE: Found them this time, thanks! That dryer is probably from the late 60s, the washer is a little newer, maybe from the early/mid 70s. On the dryer, the trim piece below the control panel is a giveaway. If that even survived into the 70s, it was only the early 70s. At some point, they changed from having the timer printed on a plastic disk that rotated to having the markings printed on the machine and only the knob and pointer turned. Both of these have the "plastic disks" which is the older style timer.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2309081985&category=20714

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Post# 26971-2/26/2003-18:42 ||| washerlover (northern California)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Twins on ebay (Link)
MESSAGE: Hi Scott,

Sorry again about not being able to get that link to work. I just heard from the seller (I asked for the photos) and they don't look like they match after all even though he insists they do.

I remember those old plastic dials -- they always wore out so you couldn't read everything.

Thanks for the info and what the heck -- I may bid on them anyway. Think they're worth it? I guess I have to start my collection somewhere!

Take care,

Todd


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Post# 26972-2/26/2003-18:54 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Twins on ebay (Link)
MESSAGE: If you don't have to go too high, and you live close enough to them to pick them up yourself, it might be fun. You can always pass them on later if you find other things you'd rather keep, folks here do that all the time! Even an older Whirlpool washer is always a good utilitarian find for someone, since the parts are still available to fix them up.

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Post# 26973-2/26/2003-21:14 ||| max-extract (vancouver)
SUBJECT: rca wse 400
MESSAGE: Hey: This sight is such a great find. A couple of days ago, after finding this site and realizing that I'm going to start collecting(more than the two justifiable units of washermania I now own) I came upon a FL that is RCA and has a weigh to save door. The model # inside the door is Wse 4oo. Any ideas as to the period this is from. I think I remember a unit like this at a friend of my parents in the early 60's?
Any insight greatly appreciated!


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Post# 26974-2/26/2003-21:15 ||| max-extract (vancouver)
SUBJECT: rca wse 400
MESSAGE: Hey: This sight is such a great find. A couple of days ago, after finding this site and realizing that I'm going to start collecting(more than the two justifiable units of washermania I now own) I came upon a FL that is RCA and has a weigh to save door. The model # inside the door is Wse 4oo. Any ideas as to the period this is from. I think I remember a unit like this at a friend of my parents in the early 60's?
Any insight greatly appreciated!


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Post# 26975-2/26/2003-21:16 ||| max-extract (vancouver)
SUBJECT: rca wse 400
MESSAGE: Hey: This sight is such a great find. A couple of days ago, after finding this site and realizing that I'm going to start collecting(more than the two justifiable units of washermania I now own) I came upon a FL that is RCA and has a weigh to save door. The model # inside the door is Wse 4oo. Any ideas as to the period this is from. I think I remember a unit like this at a friend of my parents in the early 60's?
Any insight greatly appreciated!


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Post# 26976-2/26/2003-22:57 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT: Kenmore Top Loading Dishwasher
MESSAGE: I was at a local educational institution today, and outside their science building there were some old appliances that apparently they are getting ready to discard.

An old Amana chest freezer. And a Sears Kenmore "Six Hundred" top loading dishwasher. The dishwasher looked to be in very good cosmetic shape, with the inner white porcelain tub looking in fine shape. It has a lid that lifts, of course, and a lower wash arm, then the basket, and then what looks like a loop kind of upper washarm. It has four pushbuttons on the left, with little lights, that say "Light", "Short", "Normal" and "145 Degree Sanitize". I have the exact model # and the S/N as well.

Is this something a collector here might want? If so, I could enquire at the school and see what they are planning to do with it.

The chest freezer looked fine on the exterior. Rounded sides and top, all porcelain enamel inside/out. The interior has some rusting. I don't imagine there are too many chest freezer collectors; and I'm not sure I'd want one from a science department ;-)


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Post# 26977-2/27/2003-00:55 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: Re: Rotoverso Machine:
MESSAGE: Has anyone in the Club ever heard of this type of Machine? I don't know for sure if I spelled it's name correctly. I spelled it the way that the person I was talking to spelled it to me. I was talking to someone on Wednesday Night and they told me about one they used to have. They sold it a few years ago for $275.00 and it sold right away, as they said on a whim of the chance of attempting to sell the Machine. It has a Brass Tub and a Paddle Mechanism and I guess a Manually
Hand-Turned Wringer assembly.

I would really appreciate any and all info that someone might know about this Machine. I hope everyhone is doing all right and are having some decent Weather. My area has had into the 60s and some Sunshine that past several days, not to make anyone feel bad.

Best to all, Steve
SactoTeddyBear

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Post# 26978-2/27/2003-06:44 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: Pic-of-the-Day 2-27-03
MESSAGE: This is a great looking machine.
What type of wash action did it have?
Does not look like the typical Kelvinator's from the past.
Thanks
Brent

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Post# 26979-2/27/2003-07:02 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Top Loading Dishwasher
MESSAGE: Rich, that is definitely a collector dishwasher. The "kinda loop upper wash arm" was what caused the upper rotorack to both rotate and wash the upper rack. You didn't mention an upper round rack. Is it missing?? Sounds like it was the model right below the Lady Kenmore.

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Post# 26980-2/27/2003-07:04 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Top Loading Dishwasher (top loading dishwasher)
MESSAGE: I have been searching for top loaders, I am not a collecter(YET) I just have a huge interest in them. I am looking for one to add to my breakfast bar in my kitchen. A front loader makes is difficult to get around behind the bar when it is open so a top loader is what I am looking for. Any info or pic's you could send me would be greatly appreciated. Because I live in Ontario Canada shipping might be big $$ but who knows if the machine is in fair shape & price it might be worth it. I have referbished a few already & have not one at the present time (I need a project) Thank you for your time & conciderations Michael mikepaquette@sympatico.ca

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Post# 26981-2/27/2003-07:15 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: Top Load dishwashers
MESSAGE: It appears finding a cool top load dishwasher is going to become a major project in itself. Does anyone know of used appliance stores with web sites that I can add to my list of daily search. Apparently I got the vintage dishwasher bug. If anyone can help me with this addiction I would appreciate any info & pic's possable . Thanks for your time Michael mikepaquette@sympatico.ca

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Post# 26982-2/27/2003-07:42 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic-of-the-Day 2-27-03
MESSAGE: Hi Brent -

This is a Franklin design - indexing tub wash action. I have that filter/softener dispenser somewhere around here.

Greg

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Post# 26983-2/27/2003-07:50 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic-of-the-Day 2-27-03 (Where is the new Kelvinator Kelvinator)
MESSAGE: The picture is beautiful with the avocado and the avocado laundry basket!

But it's also sad because the classic Kelvy is gone forever :-(

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Post# 26984-2/27/2003-08:01 ||| soharra (Huntsville, Alabama)
SUBJECT: RE: Top Load dishwashers (Me Too!)
MESSAGE: Mike,

I too am an old dishwasher buff. I am going to try and network with some of my area home improvement companies. I plan to draft a business letter and craft business cards. I'll then mail them to the local home improvement companies and offer a small reward for specific dishwashers.

Often times in older homes, people will hire these professionals to come in and refurbish kitchen cabinets, counter tops and floor coverings....and sometimes, replace old appliances! I figure, for the small investment in letter writing and business cards, it could generate some return of collectable appliances.

I'll keep you posted!

Shawn in Huntsville, Alabama


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Post# 26985-2/27/2003-08:19 ||| mulls (Johnson City,Tn)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic-of-the-Day 2-27-03 (indexing tub)
MESSAGE: Greg
What was the purpose of the indexing tub?what advantage was it supposed to supply,or was it more to set these machines apart from other brands?
Tom

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Post# 26986-2/27/2003-09:49 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic-of-the-Day 2-27-03 (Pic-of-the-Day )
MESSAGE: This is a great looking machine
To bad it's fake!
Peter

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Post# 26987-2/27/2003-10:38 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic-of-the-Day 2-27-03 (indexing tub)
MESSAGE: I think it was just a peculiarity of the transmission design that caused the tub to move in increments as the machine agitated. Seems to me I heard someone say that if Franklin added a certain spring to the transmission, the indexing would not happen. What I find interesting is that the tub moved in one direction when the agitator turned in the opposite direction. Westinghouse used this to its advantage with its ramp agitator, so that the agitator was able to suck more clothes under when the tub moved in the opposite direction. I don't know how good this worked with a straight vane agitator like what was in the Kelvinator.

-ph

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Post# 26988-2/27/2003-10:39 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic-of-the-Day 2-27-03 (Does anyone have a Franklin?)
MESSAGE: But does anyone have a true Franklin transmission in their collections? I don't even remember seeing one in DC.

-ph

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Post# 26989-2/27/2003-13:23 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Westy Betty video
MESSAGE: I just downloaded part one of the 2 part Westy sand commercial from our video library. Is it me, or is part one cut short? It stops just as they are starting the washers.

-ph

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Post# 26990-2/27/2003-13:30 ||| Washerpartner (Northern California)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Twins on ebay (Link)
MESSAGE: Washer Lover - I really think you should bid on these. You have to start your collection somewhere! Go for it!!
ILY



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Post# 26991-2/27/2003-15:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Top Load dishwashers (Me Too!)
MESSAGE: Good thinking for finding the kitchen appliances! I did a flyer and cards when I was first hunting for washers & dryers and did get several responses from rural appliance shops & service companies. I had a call from a guy in Newton, IA that had several old Maytag dryers on hand, but didn't see much of anything too old anymore. I asked him about Frigidaire and he just laughed. ;-)

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Post# 26992-2/27/2003-15:34 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Top Load dishwashers (Me Too!)
MESSAGE: Now Gansky! Going to Newton IA and asking a Maytag man about Frigidaire is like going to Atlanta and ordering a Pepsi! LOL!!! Mark

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Post# 26993-2/27/2003-16:28 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic-of-the-Day 2-27-03 (indexing tub)
MESSAGE: From the parts diagrams I've seen, the agitator in this machine is one most will recognize.

I had an early 80's, but same Franklin design Kelvinator that was left in my first condo. I was excited to play with it when I moved in, but it turned out to be a pathetic washer. The agitator was the root of the washing problem - here's a couple of pictures of one like I had. The vanes at the bottom aren't very effective and the ones at the top served no other purpose than to get the top of the shaft dirty - as you'll see. This is not my agitator, just one I found like it. Mine never got this bad, it wasn't around long enough.

I hope this POD "Franklinator" washer was better than my early 80's machine. They usually scored low, if not last, in the rankings. That hideous indexing tub...
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Misc.+Fun&.src=ph&.dnm=WCI+Kelvinator.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Misc.%2bFun%26.src=ph%26.view=t

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Post# 26994-2/27/2003-16:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Westy Betty video
MESSAGE: This was a two part commercial when it aired on TV. At the beginning of the show they start the washers, after the show ends, they present the sparkling triumph of the Westinghouse washer over the bucket of sand.

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Post# 26995-2/27/2003-16:38 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Westy Betty video
MESSAGE: Yes, but I remember more of Betty speaking about returning at the end of the show for the results. On the download, the women push in their cycle knobs and the video ends abruptly, like it was cut off. Not a graceful fade to black at all. Part 2 is complete.

-ph

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Post# 26996-2/27/2003-17:03 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic-of-the-Day 2-27-03 (indexing tub)
MESSAGE: After their despicable trick of placing Westinhouse innards in Frigidaire cabinets, WCI then used this "Franklinator" as a Frigidaire agitator for a number of years in their second gen of WCI Frigidaire washers. Horrifying.

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Post# 26997-2/27/2003-17:04 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Westy Betty video
MESSAGE: Yes, I see what you mean - viewing directly from the site, it just froze. When I saved it, it stops abruptly.

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Post# 26998-2/27/2003-18:38 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Top Loading Dishwasher
MESSAGE: Thanks Bob.

Yes, there is no upper round rack in the machine, just the lower rack. Also it looks like some plastic is missing from the upper rear of the tub, I have no idea what the pieces were for. There's just some rivets with some broken pieces of plastic attached, in front of a hole in the back.



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Post# 26999-2/27/2003-18:40 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Top Loading Dishwasher (top loading dishwasher)
MESSAGE: Mike,

I'll try to get some photos of the old Kenmore TL dw tonight.

The machine might not be complete. Bob mentioned that it's missing the upper round rack.


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Post# 27000-2/27/2003-18:41 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Top Loading Dishwasher (top loading dishwasher)
MESSAGE: Oh, and I forgot to add: this is a roll-away model. Complete with a faucet adapter and a retractable power cord.


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Post# 27001-2/27/2003-19:19 ||| jetcirclefill (Pensacola, Fl)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic-of-the-Day 2-27-03 (Ms. Alwood)
MESSAGE: Gee, Milton is only 10 miles from the house. I'm over there at least twice a week. Don't see them listed in the phone book. I had a distant cousin do a Tide TV commerical years ago. I often wonder if the people in the ads are who they say they are.
Tom

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Post# 27002-2/27/2003-19:33 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic-of-the-Day 2-27-03 (How Sad.)
MESSAGE: That is really sad.
What was the year that they changed over from the wonderful wash action that the Kelvinator had?
You know the really sad part is, I don't think many of the people that bought this brand even knew that they switched wash actions!
That agitator looks really sad Greg! I can't figure out what it was supposed to do but turn the clothes around in the tub. Like a circle motion.
Greg are you Kelvinators that you and Jimmy found up and running? Or have you at least played with them? Or has that GE Amerciana stolen your heart?
Thanks Peter and Greg for the answers!
Brent

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Post# 27003-2/27/2003-19:33 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Top Loading Dishwasher (top loading dishwasher)
MESSAGE: I appreciate the time but II have seen the Kenmore top loaders & find the GE much nicer, Still have not seen a KA top loader so still have something to look forward to. I am hoping for a split top rack GE or KA. There are pics out there I would not mind seeing , a Youngstown & James are names I have heard of. I appreciate your time. Michael

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Post# 27004-2/27/2003-19:35 ||| Via500 (St. Louis)
SUBJECT: RE: Gas Refrigerator Warning (Beware of old fridges with sulfur dioxide refrigerant too)
MESSAGE: Freon22 (let's see Dichlorodifluoromethane or there abouts) arrived in or about 1932 in the midst of the "monitor top" style of refrigerators. So not all refrigerators with the "thing on top" stink when ruptured. I would also suspect a few were converted to Freon22 over the years. So who died from a few ounces of S02?

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Post# 27005-2/27/2003-19:35 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: Where is Jimmy? (FilterFlo?)
MESSAGE: Hey,
Where is Jimmy? He has won all of this wonderful stuff on eBay and gone on these wonderful trips, and stopped telling us about his exciting life!!!!
Where are you Jimmy? Out of the country?
Let us know what is going on!!!
Post Pictures!
Brent

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Post# 27006-2/27/2003-19:42 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Top Load dishwashers (Me Too!)
MESSAGE: Shawn It appears I need to do more than just the local paper ad's 1 response. ONE Bummer still looking though. Michael

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Post# 27007-2/27/2003-19:45 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Where is Jimmy? (FilterFlo?) (FilterFlo & top load dishwashers)
MESSAGE: It seems he has vanished, Was looking forward to corosponding more with him, He must be a busy guy. Michael

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Post# 27008-2/27/2003-20:16 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Gas Refrigerator Warning (1948 GE Biohazard)
MESSAGE: My grandparents have a 48 GE in their kitchen and it's still going.

For those of you that own a fridge like this. Put cans of your favorite beverage in the drawer underneath the freezer. You'll get the chilliest cold drinks of your life.

At dinnertime everyone swipes a Coke out of the "Lil' Ice Box".

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Post# 27009-2/27/2003-21:38 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic-of-the-Day 2-27-03 (How Sad.)
MESSAGE: I believe that American Motors sold off the Kelvinator appliance division in 1968. The very first Kelvinator branded washers that were outsourced were from Norge, we saw a couple of these at the SD farm (pics in my album of a brown Norge-made washer) but that only was for a year or so and then the machines were Franklin clones after that.

My (true orbital action) Kelvinator is up and running just fine - I love that washer! The GE is still downstairs, for now, and I use it for some things but it's such a water hog that I try to limit how much I do in it. With a full hot wash/warm rinse load, I can drain 50 gals of water from my tank and then have to stop washing so it's just a little to wasteful for my washing tastes, but it is fun to watch now and then.

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Post# 27010-2/27/2003-21:39 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Top Loading Dishwasher (broken plastic,)
MESSAGE: Is the broken plastic on the top right side of the dishwasher? We had a 1967 Lady Kenmore top loading dishwasher and that is where the detergent dispenser was located, a twin cup piece as I recall. Right below that was a round plastic nut that you unscrewed to pour in Jet Dry. Hope this helps.

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Post# 27011-2/27/2003-22:25 ||| dalangdon (Seattle, WA)
SUBJECT: RE: Gas Refrigerator Warning (Beware of old fridges with sulfur dioxide refrigerant too)
MESSAGE: Shirley Jackson (from "The Lottery") had a really funny chapter in her really funny book "Life Among The Savages" dealing with just this situation. The refrigerator went bonkers when she was out picking up the kids, and had to be hauled away.

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Post# 27012-2/27/2003-23:35 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Where is Jimmy? (FilterFlo?)
MESSAGE: Brent, Jimmy may be snow bound somewhere. Rich had a concern about this that we talked about last weekend. Bob

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Post# 27013-2/28/2003-00:13 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Where is Jimmy? (FilterFlo?) (He's doing great - not to worry)
MESSAGE: Got a note from Jimmy today, he's fine and planning another trip but will return in time to start the spring estate sale season at home. He said he would send pics of the exciting finds on his CA/AZ trip soon.

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Post# 27014-2/28/2003-00:35 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Where is Jimmy? (FilterFlo?) (He's doing great - not to worry)
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg, I'm greatly relieved.

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Post# 27015-2/28/2003-01:48 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Top Load dishwashers (Photos!)
MESSAGE: OK vintage dishwasher fans, here are some photos hot off the Olympus digi cam.

LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/veefre/lst?.dir=/Kenmore+DW&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/veefre/lst%3f%26.dir=/Kenmore%2bDW%26.src=ph%26.view=t&.view=t

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Post# 27016-2/28/2003-05:13 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Top Load dishwashers (Photos!)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the look at the Kenmore 600 TL DW . Have seen one just like it before . The top rack had to be removed to get to the bottom rack. Still have never seen pic's of a KA TL. spilt top rack.I hope it is like the GE where 1/2 the rack is attached to the lid & comes up when opened. FilterFlow has one & was going to send me a pic but not yet. Must be a busy guy. Glad to hear he has not vanished from the face of the earth

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Post# 27017-2/28/2003-05:26 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic-of-the-Day 2-27-03 (How Sad. and mmy sentiments also )
MESSAGE: I also have a water hog .. I believe a 1970 20# Norge with the burp filter and a 1-18 since I live out in the woods its uses way way way too much water so I use it only to lift my spirits when I am depressed. my regular washer is a frigidaire front loader which is enviromentally friendly. I still need to work on my Rapid dry frigidaire have to replace the water bellows but have not figure out how to get the clip that holds the bellows off ..got the agitator off but that clip on the bottom has me stumped .. not to mechanically inclined can some one give me some insight?

thanks
Philippe

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Post# 27018-2/28/2003-05:27 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic-of-the-Day 2-27-03 (How Sad.)
MESSAGE: WOW! Thats a lot of water!

I thought the solid tub machines were quite economical in water usage.

The Australian made Kelvinator used an orbital action till 1971 and it was the most water efficent machine in the 1971 choice test.
LINK: http://au.photos.yahoo.com/bc/arrrooohhh/vwp?.dir=/Choice+1971&.src=ph&.dnm=Kelvinator.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//au.photos.yahoo.com/bc/arrrooohhh/lst%3f%26.dir=/Choice%2b1971%26.src=ph%26.view=t

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Post# 27019-2/28/2003-06:30 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Where is Jimmy? (FilterFlo?) (He's doing great - not to worry)
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg!
Tell him we asked about him if you talk to him again.
Brent

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Post# 27020-2/28/2003-06:32 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic-of-the-Day 2-27-03 (How Sad.)
MESSAGE: Greg,
Glad to hear that you are using your Kelvi, and that you are happy with it.
Have you taken any pics of it in action?
I can't get over that your GE used that much water. That is way too much!
Brent

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Post# 27021-2/28/2003-06:33 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Top Load dishwashers (Photos! Cool!)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the pictures.
That is a very cool dishwasher! Love that Lady Kenmore styling.
I wonder if when you selected your wash type with the buttons, if it lit up over it? I Love the lights!
Brent

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Post# 27022-2/28/2003-06:57 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Top Load dishwashers (Photos!)
MESSAGE: Rich, THANKS for the awesome pics!!!!

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Post# 27023-2/28/2003-07:37 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic-of-the-Day 2-27-03 (snap ring on Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Hi -
There is a snap ring (about three inches in diameter) around the base of the bellows that needs to be compressed together to open. There were special tools from Frigidaire for this job - and the oil bellows too. You might check with some old appliance stores in the area to find them - they were quite common.

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Post# 27024-2/28/2003-07:40 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic-of-the-Day 2-27-03 (How Sad.)
MESSAGE: The GE is a perforated basket washer, but because of the huge outer tub, it used approximately 50+ gallons for a normal load. If you combined the normal cycle with a pre-soak/wash cycle and added an automatic extra rinse, you could easily use 100+ gallons!

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Post# 27025-2/28/2003-07:41 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Top Load dishwashers (Photos!)
MESSAGE: Cool appliance, too bad that upper rack is missing. It looks like it's in good shape other than that though. Are you planning on taking it home?

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Post# 27026-2/28/2003-08:39 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic-of-the-Day 2-27-03 (snap ring on Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Go to the hardware store and buy a C-Clamp. You can use the C-Clamp to depress the ring slightly, then take a tiny flat bladed screwdriver and pry between the split in the ring. I use to do this all the time before I had the water and oil bellow snap ring tools.

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Post# 27027-2/28/2003-08:52 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: Hotpoint pic of day
MESSAGE: This is the exact same machine my mom had when I was born. My sister has a photo of me at about age 4 standing on a footstool peering down into the machine as it washed. It also had a fluorecent light on the back panel. The black agitator had a red cap to match the red flex tips on the three straight-vane fins.

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Post# 27028-2/28/2003-09:40 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic-of-the-Day 2-27-03 (snap ring on Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: You can also use a big channel-lock pliers to squeeze the ring enough to unstap it with a small screwdriver...

-ph

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Post# 27029-2/28/2003-09:50 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic-of-the-Day 2-27-03 (GE design)
MESSAGE: Remember that the GE was designed with a stationary outer tub that was basically part of the cabinet. The inner tub was flexible to accommodate out of balanced loads. Because of this, there is a lot, and I do mean A LOT, of space between the outer and inner tub. In most other brands, the outer tub and inner tub were both movable, or moved as one piece together, and so there could be much less space between the tubs. I think in the Frigidaire 1-18, there is about 3/4 an inch between the outer and inner tub. In the GE, there is 2-3 inches. That's alot of water. And the outer tub also takes the out of balance beating -- most have rusty rings around them where the inner tub scraped and chipped the porcelain away.

-ph

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Post# 27030-2/28/2003-09:53 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Top Load dishwashers (WP TL DW)
MESSAGE: I might could be talked into letting this go to a good home...

-ph
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/lst?.dir=/WP+DW&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/

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Post# 27031-2/28/2003-09:57 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic-of-the-Day 2-27-03 (Franklin Kelvi)
MESSAGE: I think the purpose of this agitator was to cause splashing so that the little homemaker would maybe think that her clothes were getting the same treatment in the new Kelvi as they got in the AMC Kelvi. What other reason could those 5 big top fins be there for? I would love to see this agitator work in a non-indexing machine.

-ph

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Post# 27032-2/28/2003-10:45 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Top Load dishwashers (Photos - Kenmore 600)
MESSAGE: Thanks. I'm not really into old dishwashers, so I'm not planning on taking this one. If anyone is interested, I could enquire at the school and see what their plans for it are. Then if appropriate I could put an interested party in touch with them to arrange purchase/shipping.

I think it's kind of cool that this one is a roll-around model. Perfect for older kitchens that don't have a built-in dishwasher hookup. This one probably needs some mechanical work, in addition to spiffing up the cosmetics.

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Post# 27033-2/28/2003-10:48 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Top Load dishwashers (Photos! Cool!)
MESSAGE: I'm pretty sure, from the looks of the lights, that they would have lit up when the button below them was pushed. Otherwise they just could have used a simpler label.

This one was probably used to wash lab glassware. Too bad most science departments don't also wash their own fabrics. :-)


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Post# 27034-2/28/2003-11:03 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint pic of day
MESSAGE: Now that is a picture we would love to see!

Louis

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Post# 27035-2/28/2003-11:10 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic-of-the-Day 2-27-03 (Franklin Kelvi)
MESSAGE: Peter,

From what I remember reading in Consumers Reports or from some Family Circle magazines, they were called ten vanes instead of five!?!?

I just don't know why when you looked down into the tub and see only five with an extended hump on the top... I guess they counted ten when moving back and forth or did they count the blades as half, five at the bottom for cleaning and five on the top for sloshing???

All I know, Kelvinators and Gibson were oustanding performers when it came to extraction than any other machines according to CR.

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Post# 27036-2/28/2003-11:26 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint pic of day
MESSAGE: That would be great if you can find that machine around today so that you can experience what I have when I found my little portable Kenmore that I've grew up with a few months ago!

Oh...., what great joy to have her around looking spiffy for a little over 25 years machine! But mine was in avocado, not white. But it's still the same!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/lr9711/lst?.dir=/My+new+collection&.src=ph

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Post# 27037-2/28/2003-11:43 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint pic of day (Hotpoint pic of day )
MESSAGE: We had the Hotpoint from the same era with the lid that came off (looks like a hamper door) U can see it in most wanted
Peter



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Post# 27038-2/28/2003-11:47 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic-of-the-Day 2-27-03 (Franklin tranny vs. WCI tranny)
MESSAGE: If I have time tonight, I will post the Kelvinator history from my Repair-Master book. It has all the dates and iterations of the machine.

I was just having an offline conversation with one of our esteemed members and this thought hit me. As I have posted before, in my freshman college year of 1981-1982, we had Westinghouse topload washers in the dorm. The main laundry was on the roof, but in the basement, there was a small 5 washer/5 dryer laundry with older Westinghouse washers. The ones in the basement FLEW -- very brisk agitation and fast spin. The newer machines on the roof were just "blah". So one of two theories came to my head: 1) the washers in the basement had a smaller, commercial pulley to increase the speed, or 2) the basement washers were true Franklin tranny machines and the roof washers were WCI. I bet theory #2 is right...

Where is that time machine?

-ph

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Post# 27039-2/28/2003-11:50 ||| kenwashesmonday (Haledon, NJ)
SUBJECT: RE: Gas Refrigerator Warning (Beware of old fridges with sulfur dioxide refrigerant too)
MESSAGE: Don't you mean Freon 12?
Freon 22 was used in some freezers and most window air-conditioners, but I think Freon 12 replaced S02 in refrigerators.

Ken D.

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Post# 27040-2/28/2003-11:56 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Agitators
MESSAGE: Most likely you can, but extreme care must be done not to damage the spline on the shaft!

You'll need a rubber mallet to loosen the agitator if it is frozen to the spline on the shaft, then put both hands under each side of the base of the agitator and pull straight up!

Good luck if it's stuck like my portable Kenmore or my big top control panel washers, then you will have to pull until your arms get tired!

After removal, spray with *Liquid Wrench* preferred or WD40 which works better than petroleum grease so removal will be easier later on when you do the quarterly removal for lint underneath the activator according to the manual....

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Post# 27041-2/28/2003-12:00 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Slap.....)
MESSAGE: I know this is somewhat off topic, but what is the current SPM
with the new GE?

Whirlpool/Kenmore DD is 120 SPM, so what is GE's?

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Post# 27042-2/28/2003-12:34 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Slap.....)
MESSAGE: I would love to see that 8 straight vane washer in action!
From what I remembered, with the six vane activator, it slapped the clothes like mad with those extended vanes on the length of the activator, but the pulling power(suction), was greatly reduced because of those same big vanes reducing the water current that rollover fully loaded was slow to a crawl because of it! I've seen it happened in my cousin's Hotpoint washer with 6 vanes, three large happy slapper and three small clothes scrubbers going at 100 SPM!

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Post# 27043-2/28/2003-12:36 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic-of-the-Day 2-27-03 (GE design)
MESSAGE: I didn't realize GE was designed that way until somebody mentioned it recently.  How long was that design used?

As I recall, our 18-pound '76 Whirlpool could use up to 42 (or maybe 47) gallons for a full load.  Possibly more on PP, with the two-stage cooldown.

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Post# 27044-2/28/2003-12:38 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Agitators
MESSAGE: Be careful not to hit yourself in the chin or nose if the agitator suddenly comes loose!

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Post# 27045-2/28/2003-12:52 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic-of-the-Day 2-27-03 (GE design)
MESSAGE: I think it was carried over from the solid tub design. It was in use until the new plastic design was introduced a few years ago. A loooooong time and lots of water!

-ph

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Post# 27046-2/28/2003-13:38 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic-of-the-Day 2-27-03 (Franklin Kelvi)
MESSAGE: Some of the early Beam machines (Coronado, Hotpoint, etc.) used a similarly designed agitator with the large top fins too. They differed in that the early ones had much larger vanes at the bottom - probably much more effective.

I used to hold the tub of the WCI Kelvinator I had, but it made little difference in the wash action - pathetic agitator.

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Post# 27047-2/28/2003-16:42 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic-of-the-Day 2-27-03 (Franklin Kelvi)
MESSAGE: We had a neighbor that had a TOL Monkey Wards with a solid tub and a huge black agitator that was completely perforated and a beautifully lit control panel! The agitator looked like a Kelvinator. In agitation it sloshed so much that by the end of the wash cycle, there was very little water in the tub, but the clothes WERE sudsy and clean. I used to babysit their 5 children and would do their laundry! She loved going out on Friday nights and returning home to a clean house (I'd get the kids to clean it up!) and her laundry was done! I think this machine was most likely Norge built, but it lasted her for quite a number of years so maybe it wasn't as I have never seen a Norge last that long with that kind of use. I have never seen an agitator like that one since. It was in the late 60's as I recall. Mark

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Post# 27048-2/28/2003-17:04 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Why?
MESSAGE: Why are all dryers belt drive? I have never heard of a direct drive dryer, why? Wouldn't they last longer? You would have to worry about belts snapping. It makes no sense to me.

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Post# 27049-2/28/2003-17:04 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Why?
MESSAGE: Why are all dryers belt drive? I have never heard of a direct drive dryer, why? Wouldn't they last longer? You would have to worry about belts snapping. It makes no sense to me.

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Post# 27050-2/28/2003-17:20 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Top Load dishwashers (WP TL DW)
MESSAGE: Peter, does Benita go with the dishwasher???

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Post# 27051-2/28/2003-17:28 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Top Load dishwashers (WP TL DW)
MESSAGE: LOL... No, Benita Bendix stays here. However, my new little cat, Nikki, could go with the DW to a good home!

-ph

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Post# 27052-2/28/2003-17:41 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Kelvi history from Repair-Master
MESSAGE: During the years from 1966 up to and including 1975 the Kelvinator has used three different designs of transmissions. Prior to 1966 the Kelvinator washer did not have a transmission. Wash and spin action was accomplished with the aid of direction torque springs and an eccentric agitator shaft that rotated the agitator in a circular arc, rather than the type of motion we are accustomed to as used in other agitator washers. During 1966 and 1967 a new type of transmission was introduced, but some models during this period were manufactured with the old type agitator and components. To make it easier to identify the text which follows, we will refer to any washer produced up to 1966 as EARLY MODELS. From 1966 to 1968 transmission almost identical to the Norge transmission was used, this will be referred to as the 1800 series. From 1969 to 1973 a Franklin transmission was used, this will be referred to as Franklin type. In 1973 White Consolidated Industries took over Kelvinator and introduced another type of transmission; this will be referred to as the W.C. type which actually is the G series. The utmost of care must be taken when working on the W.C. type transmission. The W.C. tranmission spins with the tub, similar to the Maytag transmission, and injury can result if care is not taken when observing the mechanism for service.

Copywrite 1975
Master Publications, Inc

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Post# 27053-2/28/2003-20:05 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvi history from Repair-Master
MESSAGE: Wow - So many different Kelvinators - the true Kelvinator orbital action, the KelviNorge, Franklinator, and the "WC" (aka toilet) in later years...

My Kelvinator Repair Master is a little older, the first sentence is "These machines are completely automatic." ;-) Does your book show service instructions for all these different designs?

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Post# 27054-2/28/2003-21:40 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic-of-the-Day 2-27-03 (How Sad.)
MESSAGE: Hi Arrrooohhh
Don't forget that US gallons are smaller than Aussie/imperial gallons - the 32 gallons in the Aus test is about 36 US gallons. The 50 gallons mentioned was the GE not the Kelvy. That generaton of GE not only had a perforated basket, but unlike most perf basket washers, the outer tub was HUGE, with a very large clearance between inner and outer tubs, causing them to have a very high water consumption. Most perf basket washers have minimal clearance between tubs to minimize wasted water.

Best Wishes
Chris.

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Post# 27055-2/28/2003-21:47 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvi history from Repair-Master
MESSAGE: Yes, this Repair-Master covers all 4 designs. The book is a bit more than 1/2 inches thick.

-h

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Post# 27056-3/1/2003-00:11 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Agitators
MESSAGE: Glenn, sounds like you speak from experience. OUCH!!!

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Post# 27057-3/1/2003-00:49 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Why?
MESSAGE: With a belt, the same motor can drive both the blower and the drum. Also, the belt probably makes it easier to position the motor away from the heat source. Dryer motors tend to last a long time. On an electric dryer, the heating element or controls seem to go first.


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Post# 27058-3/1/2003-00:51 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Top Loading Dishwasher (broken plastic,)
MESSAGE: Check out the photos on the link I posted. The twin detergent dispenser seems to be there, but in the upper middle of the rear inner panel, there's a rectangular hole that seems to be missing its plastic cover. Maybe that was just an air vent for drying?


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Post# 27059-3/1/2003-06:38 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: Why? (my guess )
MESSAGE: My guess would be that we could not fit them in a standard area since it would have to be deeper with a larger motor to accomodate that drum size and weight of wet clothes

I am trying to remember when I took apart my Frist Frigidiare if it had a belt to motor, it had to have Had to take it apart cause the drum broke off it within 4 years.

I was so pissed that I wrote elextrolux and after numerous emails I got a 400.00 check for the tag. I should edit the emails and post them for you all its quite funny.

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Post# 27060-3/1/2003-07:19 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: FilterFlo
MESSAGE: Got a email from him, all is great, he went to get some warm weather & sunshine. He will return mid March. He said to say hi to everyone in here. Has lots of pic's to share.

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Post# 27061-3/1/2003-15:43 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: Is everyone alright?
MESSAGE: It's been quiet today and I hope everyone's machine is up and humming!


Larry

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Post# 27062-3/1/2003-16:02 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: General Electric name plate
MESSAGE: I am looking for a metal General Electric name plate. If anyone has any idea of where to get one of these I would apprectate the help. mikepaquette@sympatico.ca

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Post# 27063-3/1/2003-17:43 ||| RE563 (Ft. Lauderdale)
SUBJECT: In Search of Frigidaire 1-18 set
MESSAGE: Wanted to know if you guys could help me out. I'm Looking for a Frigidaire 1-18 washer and dryer. I live in a condo so getting one to restore is out of the question.

Thanks

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Post# 27064-3/1/2003-22:40 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Is everyone alright?
MESSAGE: Larry, thanks for askin' Me, I'm fine. A busy day and weekend. Haven't tried out my washer today, don't need to until tuesday evening. However, running the dishwasher is another matter. Bob

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Post# 27065-3/1/2003-22:44 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: A new SQ comes home
MESSAGE: Another one for the collection...

-ph
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/vwp?.dir=/SQ+A10&.src=ph&.dnm=A10intro.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/lst%3f%26.dir=/SQ%2bA10%26.src=ph%26.view=t

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Post# 27066-3/2/2003-00:47 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: A new SQ comes home
MESSAGE: Excellent find!! Have you plugged it in yet? Be sure to let us know how you like the hot water spray rinses!

Is this the wringer washer that your parents found for you? Looks like fun too.

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Post# 27067-3/2/2003-01:08 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire Kitchen Planner
MESSAGE: Check out this kitchen planner set...
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=13596&item=3210493401&rd=1

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Post# 27068-3/2/2003-02:42 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: A new SQ comes home
MESSAGE: Peter, congratulations! I LOVE those Art Deco style Speed Queens. It looks though there is an awful lot of restoring to be done. Good luck! BTW, that Westy dryer, is it from the seventies?

Louis

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Post# 27069-3/2/2003-09:19 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: A new SQ comes home
MESSAGE: What a handsome machine. Congrats! It's going to take a lot of hard work -- especially with all that rust -- but it's going to be gorgeous once its fixed up. Have you tried it? Does it work? Please keep up to date with your restoration efforts.

Mike

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Post# 27070-3/2/2003-09:28 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Thor Automagic Sink (Someone bought the Thor name and ...)
MESSAGE: ... is selling Thor washers and dryers again. The "history" section has some interesting pics. There's even an ad for a portable version of their washer/dishwasher combo! I'm guessing that it's from the 50's. Here's a link:

http://thorappliances.com/aboutThor/index.php
LINK: http://thorappliances.com/aboutThor/index.php

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Post# 27071-3/2/2003-09:55 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: In Search of Frigidaire 1-18 set ((good luck))
MESSAGE: You may want to keep an eye out on ebay, there was a set out there not to long ago. Do they have any kind of magazine in your area that sells everything persay ?? And you may want to contact appliance dealers in your area and see if they will keep an eye out for you, you will have to offer money and give them an incentive and there is still little or no guarantee that they will come through for you (Don't ask me why). I had contacted at least around fifteen dealers in my travels (whereas I work "on the road") telling them I was looking for vintage appliances (you need to tell them what you are looking for specifically), I offered money and only two out of the fifteen, one especially, have called me and informed me of stuff they found. But sometimes you hit that one that will in fact be willing to help you out. I found two Frigidaire 1/18 washers overnight this way, could be awhile before that happens again, but whereas those machines were predominantly from the seventies, they are still out there, be prepared you may or may not have to fix them. Good luck to you, hope this info helps!!

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Post# 27072-3/2/2003-10:00 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: A new SQ comes home (cool)
MESSAGE: congrads Peter, very cool find, early fifties ?? I side from some cosmetic work, what does it need mechanically do you know ??

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Post# 27073-3/2/2003-10:18 ||| JoeEkaitis (Rialto, California, USA)
SUBJECT: So, how'd it happen? (And what were they thinking?)
MESSAGE: How did Hotpoint go from being GE's upscale brand (once sold only in showroom dealers and NEVER at department or discount stores) to the bargain basement?

And what was GE thinking when they brought out the short-lived RCA (not to be confused with RCA Whirlpool) brand of major appliances?

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Post# 27074-3/2/2003-10:27 ||| mulls (Johnson City,Tn)
SUBJECT: frigidaire water level
MESSAGE: I know I know-this isnt the place for this-so I apologize up front-but someone remind me how to increase the water level 0n Frigemore FLoaders.
Thanks
Tom

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Post# 27075-3/2/2003-10:56 ||| chrisfa1 (Northridge, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Gas Refrigerator Warning (Beware of old fridges with sulfur dioxide refrigerant too)
MESSAGE: Wow. That's the EXACT refrigerator I have in my garage.

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Post# 27076-3/2/2003-11:22 ||| max-extract (vancouver)
SUBJECT: pic of the day
MESSAGE: This cool looking machine is essentially the same thing that is sitting at a used building supply site. It is labelled as an RCA and has the model series number wse 400. Any ideas as to the time period. Should I grab it? The door is different on the washer, it is the weigh to save drop down door.

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Post# 27077-3/2/2003-12:05 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: ????
MESSAGE: I see this Washer/Dryer on eBay a lot and I like to know, what is so special about this portable unit and why it is so popular?
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2310714317&category=20714

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Post# 27078-3/2/2003-12:45 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: So, how'd it happen? (And what were they thinking?)
MESSAGE: I recall Hotpoint being sold at the Gibson's discount stores around here in the 1970s.

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Post# 27079-3/2/2003-12:48 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: A new SQ comes home (Go Peter!)
MESSAGE: Peter,
That SQ is a great find! Did you get it out of someones basement?
I also like your Westinghouse dryer! Are you using that one now? It is so classy looking!
Thanks for the pictures.
Brent

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Post# 27080-3/2/2003-12:50 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Kitchen Planner (How Rare!)
MESSAGE: Greg,
Thanks for that Ebay link.
That is the coolest thing that I have ever seen as far as demo stuff!
It is in such great shape also. I bet that tons of these were thrown away.
It looks as though that sales person that had this one took pride, and put it away for memories. Now someone else can enjoy it.
What a great find! Especially for the seller!
Thanks for the link!
Brent

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Post# 27081-3/2/2003-12:53 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: So, how'd it happen? (And what were they thinking?) (All of RCA is owned by GE now.)
MESSAGE: Hello there,
Yes, all of RCA is owned by General Electric now.
Yep, all of it. This took place in the middle 80's.
RCA until then was actually still owned by the original family that started it way back when.
Brent


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Post# 27082-3/2/2003-12:55 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Thor Automagic Sink (Thanks for the link Mike!)
MESSAGE: Mike,
Thanks for that link. That is a very cool looking combo machine!
The history of Thor was very interesting also.
Brent

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Post# 27083-3/2/2003-13:24 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A new SQ comes home (WOW)
MESSAGE: PETER! That's incredible, its the very first Speed Queen!! Where did you find him? He's probably from 1952. I'm green with envy on that find!

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Post# 27084-3/2/2003-14:02 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: A new SQ comes home (WOW)
MESSAGE: Hi Peter, Congratulations on the neat Speed Queen. You have some work ahead but what a beauty when it is done. Is the top made out of stainless steel? Also loved that Westinghouse dryer. How old is it? Love that window in the door!!

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Post# 27085-3/2/2003-14:27 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: A new SQ comes home
MESSAGE: I love that Speed Queen emblem. It looks like she's spinning so fast that her hair is blowing in the wind!

Great find Peter, keep us posted how she's coming along!

Larry

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Post# 27086-3/2/2003-14:30 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Is everyone alright?
MESSAGE: That's good news Bob!
At least we have something running in the house that brings peace to the soul! A washer, dryer or a dishwasher.....

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Post# 27087-3/2/2003-16:28 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Kitchen Planner
MESSAGE: That's just fabulous...even the planning set has famous Frigidaire quality!

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Post# 27088-3/2/2003-18:28 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: New Stuff
MESSAGE: Thanks for all the kudos. While she was on her side, I tried moving the tranny's main pulley and she is frozen. There doesn't seem to be alot of rust or corrosion underneath in the workings, but the base is pretty rusty. It's going to take alot of effort to restore, no doubt. I think the tub is a goner, and I think the original agitator was the metal agitator with the vanes that go all the way to the top. The agitator in mine is black plastic and very smooth -- just about brand new, it feels like. I have no idea when she will get done. (Sorry guys, but washers are female in my book.)

The wringer is the one my family got for me. It is in my sister's garage in Rochester, NY. It has a high 3-vaned agitator inside, kinda like a SQ but he vanes are straighter going down from the top and across the skirt.

The Westy dryer I think is the same model year of that "pic of the day" with the little boy shoveling sand into it, but it must be a step or two down from the TOL model in the pic. It does work, but has been pre-empted for a Frigidaire 1-18 dryer.

-ph

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Post# 27089-3/2/2003-18:30 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: A new SQ comes home
MESSAGE: Peter, MARVELOUS. What year is the A10? I've never sen a stainless steel tub rust like that. And now you have awringer to play with. And naturally, that westy dryer sends shivers up my spine. It's gorgeous!!!!

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Post# 27090-3/2/2003-18:34 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: A new SQ comes home (Go Peter!)
MESSAGE: Hey Brent,

Both machines came from our friend Mike at Ideal. You should see the Custom Imperial Flair range and the 40" Kenmore gas range he has!

-ph

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Post# 27091-3/2/2003-18:35 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: A new SQ comes home (WOW)
MESSAGE: The first?!?!?!? Wow, I didn't think it was THAT old!

-ph

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Post# 27092-3/2/2003-18:35 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: A new SQ comes home
MESSAGE: Thanks Bob. The tub is porcelain.