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Post# 30000-6/3/2003-17:59 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Coin Operated Washers (No Brand Loyalty ... except for Maytag's)
MESSAGE: Hi Scott,
The Jetcone vs. Three Ring Pulsator explanation makes sense.
Except for washing machines, my mom has no brand loyalty. Her 1952 manual defrost Hotpoint fridge was replaced by a 1973 frost free Frigidaire. That was replaced by a 2000 Whirlpool side by side. Her 1959 LK top loading portable dishwasher was replaced by a top loading Kitchen Aid portable in the mid to late 70's. She didn't get her first automatic until 1962 and you would have thought that she would have followed the lead of my aunt (and her big sister)and bought a Frigidaire, but no she had to get a Maytag like the rest of our neighbors. That Maytag served her well until around the time that the 1-18's were introduced. I remember going with my parents (and drooling over a poppy, windowed 1-18) when they went to a local appliance dealer to replace the Maytag. I tried my best to talk mom into buying the 1-18. Her response an emphatic "Why would I want to buy anything LESS than a Maytag?" (I wanted to repspond "Because they're boring!", but knew better than to argue with my parents in public!) She bought a bought a Maytag. (Sigh!)
Mike
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Post# 30001-6/3/2003-18:14 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Coin Operated Washers (Tangling and Frigidaires)
MESSAGE: Wow! Thanks Mark. Who knew? The funny thing is that the aunt who had the late 1950's three ring Frigidaire is VERY particular. She never had an children and everything in her house had to be perfect at all times. (She even had white wall to wall carpet in the living room!) (A widow, she now lives in an assisted living facilty.) You would have thought that she would have an issue with tangling. She never mentioned it.
During the week or so that my mom was between Maytags, I volunteered to take the family wash to a local laundromat that had coin operated GE Filter Flo's. (I would have walked several miles in I knew of a laudromat that had Frigidaire Jet Cones. :-)) They were turquoise blue and had the removable lint filters/detergent dispensors. (I was always surprised that those never walked. LOL!) The only problem was that they also had Maytag like safety switches that stopped all the action when the lid was lifted. (Sob!)(BTW, that laundromat is still there. The blue GE's are long gone unfortunately.)
Thanks again,
Mike
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Post# 30002-6/3/2003-20:46 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Coin Operated Washers (No Brand Loyalty ... except for Maytag's)
MESSAGE: Hi JerseyMike,
I talked my Aunt into buying the poppy 1/18 set in 74
what a beautiful set
She even had the wall in the basementment painted poppy to match the set
Peter
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Post# 30003-6/3/2003-21:23 ||| alr2903 (new orleans)
SUBJECT: RE: Easy made Westinghouse Top-loader (Westy TL by easy)
MESSAGE: Geoff, We will look fwd to some pictures. When you have time.
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Post# 30004-6/3/2003-23:00 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Coin-Ops
MESSAGE: I'll bet maytag doesn't put the filter on because it would never get cleaned. It would just sit in there and rot. Not to mention, I have seen people put detergent in the fabric softener dispenser. (It does sound quite stupid!)
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Post# 30005-6/3/2003-23:05 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Coin-Ops
MESSAGE: Weird, I just mentioned the same thing. The reason I thought of it was because we have a pair of very old maytags at my work. The fabric softener dispenser is long gone, but I went to unload the washer one time and there was a white, gooey, sticky mess in the lint filter. I guess someone thought the little hole in the bottom was for the detergent to fall through. Then pulling the filter out revealed an even more discusting surprise, (Black, slimy crap which probably used to be lint.) I got it all cleaned out though. (with some very hot water and a toothbrush:-)
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Post# 30006-6/3/2003-23:07 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Coin Operated Washers (Re: Coin-Op Frigidaire's:)
MESSAGE: A 100 load lint filter would be great! Then it wouldn't be that bad if people forgot to emtpy it. It would be cool if a manufacturer could either put in a big disposable bag (like a vacuum bag) Or use cyclones to remove the lint. (Although, cyclones don't even work well on vacuums, they would probably work even worse on dryers.)
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Post# 30007-6/3/2003-23:14 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Coin Operated Washers (Tangling and Frigidaires)
MESSAGE: You let a little lid switch stop your fun lol. I find it so easy to cheat even a maytag lid switch. I frequently do so at work. (yes it is a boring maytag but still fun to watch the new, to me, spin drain.) Can you imagine, the first EVER spin drain I saw was from the maytag at work. I have had 15 years of neutral drains. I must say, I like spin-drains. (I make our kenmore spin drain by interupting drain at the beginning and then holding the lid switch down.)
The way I cheat the maytag's lid switch is by holding the lid almost straight up and putting a pencil (lengthwise, parralel with the top and console.) and pushing it down into the crevice between the lid and the lid switch button. It works great. For any other washer, I just hold my little finger in the lid switch hole.
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Post# 30008-6/3/2003-23:46 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Coin Operated Washers (Lid Switches)
MESSAGE: Hi Kurt,
LOL! I never the lid switch on my Mom's Maytag's defeat me. ;-) I never had the nerve to try defeating the ones at a laundromat. The attendant would probably call the cops (or at least try to stop me) and the other customers would think that I was nuts.
Mike
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Post# 30009-6/4/2003-00:31 ||| geoff (Connecticut)
SUBJECT: RE: Easy made Westinghouse Top-loader (Westy TL by easy)
MESSAGE: OHHHH, you can count on it, I'm still in awe, My friend Carl got a GIANT kick out of my reaction when he told me all the info on it LOL. I think I made a scene LOL. Well, there are some stories behind it, but I'll tell later!!
Regards,
Geoff
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Post# 30010-6/4/2003-02:10 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Coin Operated Washers (Lid Switches)
MESSAGE: Oh yeah, hehe I guess that would be a problem. I have to wait for everyone else to be gone before I take the maytag for a drive:-) However, a girl that works there loves to vacuum:-) And I love to wash. But I haven't made it even slightly known. But the girl has told us more than once that she loves to vacuum. People think that is a little weird. Haha, they should come to this site:-)
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Post# 30011-6/4/2003-09:54 ||| laundromat (florida)
SUBJECT: frigidaire washers
MESSAGE: The correct agitators for the Frigidaire washers were the 3 Ring agitator,the Deep Action agitator(it looked like a space capsul)and the Jet Cone agitator which was made for the 1-18 models.So many people confuse the Deep Action agitator with the Jet Cone and it's not.They're very different.The Deep Action had 4 portholes square shaped that conducted the "Jet-Away Lint Removal"As extra water came in,the force caused it to spray through the holes and down the drain taking lint and soap scum with it.the previous 3 Ring agitator used the "Lint Chaser" yellow ring to do the same.The Jet Cone agitator just moved the clothes and the seperate recirculating filter did the job removing lint.
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Post# 30012-6/4/2003-11:39 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: Fridgidaire Laundromat Washers
MESSAGE: Yep I Used Em'
There was a Laundromat at the north end of town in Grand Ledge near the Mobile Home park that until about 1994-95 had a few of the old avacado Fridgidaire Coin-Op's there. It had the spaceship style agitator because it was all grey rubber if my memory serves me and had the four square holes that if you opened the lid did blow water out at you or at least the one at the very end of the row did.
Several times when Ma's Maytags crapped out I took my laundry over there and washed my clothes because it was CHEAP only $.50 a load and an UNBELIEVEABLE $.25 for the dryers. An ol blind man that still lives above the building worked the mat and he told me that they seldom broke on him, because i remember buggin the hell out of him with questions about them.
If my mem serves me they had nothing but one dial for water temperature that was actually located below where you would think It should be on the instrument panel. In fact it was down just before it sloped into the flat lid surface where I would sit and read the 5 year old periodicals that most every laundtromat has. Yeah it was mounted right on the porcelain and there was NO cold water wash? They looked like Sammy Stevens washer and dryer on Bewitched. and nothing like my 1-18's. Had more of a slant back control panel to it.
Oh yeah that's right...He also had some front loaders called ironically Dexter Automagic II and III that were these huge monster washers that did double and triple loads and all of them were all kindsa different colors like orange, brown, green, yellow, red that the old blind guy must have painted because they looked HIDEOUS. anyway I never used them because the double loaders were $2.00 and the Triple loaders were 3.00.
The newer Laundromat had Whirlpool washers and dryers and Milnor and Wascomat double and triple loaders. But they were ALWAYS expensive so if the Maytags ever poohed themselves I would go to the old mat.
Besides I loved watching the Fridgidaire's go. That's why when my Great Uncle Joe called and told me that he had a pair of them...at his cottage and he wanted to put "Kenmores" up there I jumped on them. Mine are white or off white whichever you prefer and it does NOT have the window but it is a Custom Imperial set.
Anyway to finish the Laundromat thing, I know at least eight of 12 you could raise the lid and it would agitate. I loved the splat,splat,splat,splat,splat,splat,splat,splat sound they made while washing and most importantly my stuff was clean and smelled good and NOT tangled, or at least I never thought so. And I really don't think that my 1-18's do it either unless it's sheets or something big and billowy.
Yeah they had to be old because they had a dark black and white speckeled smooth inner tub. Yeah because I wondered where the hell the water went. Now I know!
Anyway that laundromat closed in June 1996 because I had JUst got back from college and wanted to go there and do my laundry in one fell swoop and lo and behold...It was dark and empty.
Sadness
Chad
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Post# 30013-6/4/2003-11:50 ||| bsmntfullosuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: Dryers at Allentown, PA thrift store
MESSAGE: I checked out RePlace today. More interesting than the usual old clothes and kitchen drawer junk type of thrift store.
Think these dryers were all $50 each, looked OK:
* GE V12 "Clothes Conditioning" with foot pedal door opener
* 2 Kenmores with flip-up covers over the control panels, one brushed aluminum cover with vertical lines that looked like from the early-to-mid 60s, other "Lady Kenmore" with automatic drying control and a "Sears Best" sticker, looked like from early 70s.
* Westinghouse (not White-Westinghouse) from 70s
* avocado Maytag with single dial, looks like my DE806
$25, dryer looked kind of scratched up:
Frigidaire 1-18
Several late 70s-80s Kenmore washers too.
More info:
" Good Shephard has recently established a division called "The RePlace" located at 2330 26th Street SW in Allentown. This division of Good Shepherd provides meaningful employment to persons with disabilities and also reduces the amounts of materials entering landfills. This program accepts household items such as, used building materials, cabinets, appliances, home furnishings, home electronics, doors, lighting fixtures, exercise equipment and much more. Items are cleaned and minor repairs are made then the items are offered for sale at the warehouse....
Call (610)709-0205 for more information"
Link below to Good Shepherd:
LINK: http://www.goodshepherdrehab.org/volunteer/index.html
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Post# 30014-6/4/2003-11:53 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire Laundroamt Washers
MESSAGE: One more thing....
I got so excited about the 1-18's when Joe gave them to me...but never really paid much mind to the ones in the laundromat....or ever asked Steve "the blind guy";If I could have or buy an old one...Where the hell was my brain? Was I THAT dense and slow to the punch...wait don't answer..yeah I was........I wasn't "out" yet to the fact that I Liked Washers. Just Vacuum Cleaners. And I had about 40-50 Antique/Old ones at that point in my moms basement...and believe me I vacuum EVERY day unless im dying with my "Hoover Celebrity III QS Canister".
That's all
Chad
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Post# 30015-6/4/2003-11:55 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Dryers at Allentown, PA thrift store (Kenmores)
MESSAGE: Those are 1970-73 models. B-E-A-utiful
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Post# 30016-6/4/2003-11:55 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Dryers at Allentown, PA thrift store (Kenmores)
MESSAGE: Those are 1970-73 models. B-E-A-utiful
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Post# 30017-6/4/2003-11:58 ||| bsmntfullosuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: Dryers at Allentown, PA thrift store
MESSAGE: GE dryer close, but not exact match to this washer:
LINK: http://www.classicappliances.com/MUSEUM/General-Electric/1964-GE-Filter-Flo-Tom/1964-GE-Filter-Flo-Tom-Exterior.jpg
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Post# 30018-6/4/2003-12:02 ||| bsmntfullosuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: Dryers at Allentown, PA thrift store (Kenmores)
MESSAGE: There was a white plastic strip, either in top of the "Lady Kenmore" flip door or right over it, that looked like it mightve been a light.
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Post# 30019-6/4/2003-12:14 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Dryers at Allentown, PA thrift store (Kenmores)
MESSAGE: umm..Jason....have you been to the movies just recently then? ;-)
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Post# 30020-6/4/2003-12:32 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Dryers at Allentown, PA thrift store (Getting to see the appliances at the "
RePlace"
!!!)
MESSAGE: Okay "Bsmntfullosuds":
I clicked on the link that is listed in your post, looked all over the site, and I couldn't find anything that mentioned anything about "The RePlace" on it anywhere. Where do I have to go in order to get to "The RePlace".
Where else at the site do I need to go??? What links do I need to click on in order to get there???
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Post# 30021-6/4/2003-12:57 ||| bsmntfullosuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: Dryers at Allentown, PA thrift store (Getting to see the appliances at the )
MESSAGE: REPLACE, 2330 26th Street S.W. , Allentown
(610)709-0205
There is a traffic light at 26th St. and Emaus Ave, near the I-78 overpass. I think there may be an exit-only ramp from I-78 West directly to Emaus Ave, would have to make a U-turn on Emaus Ave to get to 26th St.
Nearby Lehigh St. has exits and onramps to I-78 East and West.
I posted the "Volunteer Opportunities" link, as it was the only Good Shepherd page that even mentioned the store address.
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Post# 30022-6/4/2003-16:13 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Dryers at Allentown, PA thrift store (Getting to see the appliances at the )
MESSAGE: That's not what I am talking about.
I'm talking about how do I get to see the appliances here on the internet???
What link do I need to click on in order for me to see them???
--Charles--
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Post# 30023-6/4/2003-17:06 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Dryers at Allentown, PA thrift store (I GOT THE POWER)
MESSAGE: Why yes, why do you ask?
I need a spoo----oon
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Post# 30024-6/4/2003-18:01 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: ?? for IMPERIAL BOB
MESSAGE: Inquiring minds want to know. Did the JB weld hold? Will the Bendix put the big squeeze on the tidy whities? Will Martha go to jail? (sorry I got carried away!)
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Post# 30025-6/4/2003-21:45 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: RE: ?? for IMPERIAL BOB
MESSAGE: Well Mr. B. we are all waiting... How did it go?? Did she or didn't she? And did he know about the cork in the bat?? (-:
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Post# 30026-6/4/2003-21:49 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: todays p.o.d.
MESSAGE: Todays p.o.d. how quant,the mini clothes thrasher! (-:
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Post# 30027-6/5/2003-05:55 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: J.B. WELD -HELD!
MESSAGE: Oh yes! It's working again. Tomorrow night we're having a huge pride party with about 75 people here generating hot tub towels & other laundry, PLUS I'm expecting a special guest, and will take a video with my special guest tomorrow night to show the operation of my rubber tub Bendix. Hint - the special guest is coming in from Birmingham Alabama to visit his Sister who just had a baby in Silver Spring Md....
So - Thank you for asking! Yes! All my childrens are working at this time as they should and my new laundry room arrangement has incredibly more light and space than before.
PEACE & PRIDE!
B
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Post# 30028-6/5/2003-11:58 ||| radiobill1966 (Indianapolis, IN)
SUBJECT: RE: J.B. WELD -HELD!
MESSAGE: I'm sold! I'm gonna have to get some of that stuff for repairs around here!
Bill
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Post# 30029-6/5/2003-18:47 ||| christfr (st louis mo)
SUBJECT: frigidaire 3 ring
MESSAGE: the poor baby i brought home is a wcd62 and the former owner changed the 3 ring to a jet cone i have tried and tried to find a 3 ring to put her back to original but not having any luck anyone out there have any idea where one might be we would both be very happy campers indeed
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Post# 30030-6/5/2003-20:19 ||| bsmntfullosuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: Dryers at Allentown, PA thrift store (Sorry, no photos)
MESSAGE: Sorry, I didn't happen to have my camera while visiting the store. Its a thrift store without a web presence online. I posted the message for benefit of anyone who happened to be in the area. Most thrift stores don't accept major appliances, because of the disposal fees.
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Post# 30031-6/5/2003-20:36 ||| bsmntfullosuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: The perfect classic appliance-hauling truck
MESSAGE: The Corvair 95 Rampside pickup has a big ramp on the passenger's side. It was produced 1961-1964. The ramp folds down from a piano hinge at the bottom of the bed. This is probably the cleverest addition ever made to the American pickup truck: It allows you to roll or slide most any object into the bed without lifting.
LINK: http://www.mindspring.com/~corvair/fc1.html
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Post# 30032-6/6/2003-01:51 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: "POD" for Friday, GE Washer & Dryer:
MESSAGE: Hi! Dear Club Member Friend's, I just saw the new "POD" for Friday, June 5th and I wanted to know who might know what year they came out For Sale? They are one of a few Models that I love the best. I esepcially like the "Slide-Rule" Timer Movement on both the Washer and Dryer. The other Model that I really like had the Controls on the lower part of the Console and a Fluorescent Light on the Top, with just a Light Lens above, without any Frame around the Lens. I think that the 2nd Machines I'm talking about is from 1968, but I don't remember the year of the other ones that are the "POD" now. I would really appreciate anyones knowledge of the years of them. I hope to find at least the Washer, of either Model year or if I see any other year Models I like and buy the Washer for my Collection. I would like very much to find a GE Spot-Scrubber Washer, but I would prefer to find one of the Models that is White-On-White.
I look forward in hearing from someone about the Model years and I look forward in reading the upcoming Postings.
Big Teddy Bear Hugs, Steve
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Post# 30033-6/6/2003-06:42 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: "POD" for Friday, GE Washer & Dryer:
MESSAGE: Steve,
I knew of a washer & dryer in coppertone like these that were in a warehouse in Atlanta. If my memory serves me, the washer did not have the dispenser. The cabinets were in fair shape and the washer and dryer both had blue speckled porcelean interiors.
They were not hooked up, so I can't say what shape they were in mechanically.
Definately cool looking. The owner wanted $300 - $500 (somewhere in that neighborhood). Peter H had seen them, too.
Steve1-18
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Post# 30034-6/6/2003-06:55 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: The perfect classic appliance-hauling truck (WOW)
MESSAGE: Now that is slick! You can roll a 1970 Kenmore 800 on that truck real easy.
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Post# 30035-6/6/2003-07:58 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: "POD" for Friday, GE Washer & Dryer:
MESSAGE: Hi Steve,
The GE POD is from the early / Mid 60's. Do not know how long they made that style though. John Lefever has one in his collection. You may be able to see it in the member links section of the club. The other GE with the light on top is from about 66'. I have this model dryer in white. I would like the matching washer also. Maybe someday.
Cheers to all,
Bruce
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Post# 30036-6/6/2003-08:24 ||| mulls (Johnson City,Tn)
SUBJECT: coin laundry
MESSAGE: Hello Brothers
I know one of our members owns a coin laundry.Who is it?I am considering the business and am seeking advice.
Tom
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Post# 30037-6/6/2003-08:39 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: 50's GE Dishwasher
MESSAGE: Hi All,
Just wanted to let everyone know about a late 50's or 60's GE Mobile Maid dishwasher for sale on Ebay. The item number is #2327492087. The machine looks to be in great shape and the PINK interior looks perfect.
It is in Atlanta.
Bruce
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Post# 30038-6/6/2003-08:40 ||| Pulsator (826 Vesper ,Ann Arbor, Michigan 48103)
SUBJECT: Commercial Front-Load Washing Machine
MESSAGE: Me and my mother have decided to combine the forces of our Fisher Paykel and a Commercial Front-Loader. Does anyone have any adivice on which to buy or do any of you for some reason have one that we could have? Any info would superb!
Best Washes!
Jamie
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Post# 30039-6/6/2003-08:52 ||| Pulsator (826 Vesper ,Ann Arbor, Michigan 48103)
SUBJECT: Happy Birthday to ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MESSAGE: I am so sorry but I have been busy studying for final exams and doing homework and stuff that I forgot to announce my own birthday! My birthday was May 31! I completely forgot! But I am officaly a Teen! 13 years old!
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Post# 30040-6/6/2003-10:27 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: coin laundry
MESSAGE: That would be me! Email me at PeterH770@aol.com...
-ph
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Post# 30041-6/6/2003-10:31 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy Birthday to ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Great day to be a teen!)
MESSAGE: Jamie,
Happy belated birthday and I hope all your washing machine dreams has come true in the beginnings of your teens!
Larry
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Post# 30042-6/6/2003-10:46 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Commercial Front-Load Washing Machine
MESSAGE: Jamie, that is great to go both ways to own a top loader and a front loader to get the best of both worlds! If you go with an commercial front loader, it is best that the machine sits on a concrete floor and it must be bolted down. I'm still waiting to get an answer on how to bolt one down.
Anyway, it may be wise to get a front loader that has an suspension system built in where it can be used on a solid wood floor (floor joist may need to be added to firm up the floor) without being anchored to minimize vibrations and if you do go commercial, try looking in the yellow pages under laundry and see if you could get a used machine one at a discounted price....
I wish you the best of luck!
Larry
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Post# 30043-6/6/2003-10:51 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: coin laundry
MESSAGE: Peter,
Did you check your E-mail today???
Reply when you get a chance..........
Larry
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Post# 30044-6/6/2003-11:15 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy Birthday to ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MESSAGE: Happy Birthday, and best of luck with your washer shopping!
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Post# 30045-6/6/2003-11:17 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: "POD" for Friday, GE Washer & Dryer:
MESSAGE: I have an ad dated 1964 that has this type of machine in it, and was lucky enough to get to see it in person at last year's convention. Unfortunately for whatever reason this design was not made terribly long. The second ones you're speaking of came out in 1966, and these timelines were between those and the older style with the control panel on pedestals.
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Post# 30046-6/6/2003-11:41 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: The perfect classic appliance-hauling truck
MESSAGE: Knowing me, if I were to hit the lottery, this would be my dream coach to go on tour with my vintage machines! This vehicle can be converted to whatever you want to with a wheel chair lift added that loading and unloading a machine would be a breeze! Since the luggage compartment are huge and I would incorporate a nice size water tank that would heat the water off a caterpillar engine since the engine runs hot at 210 degrees and I would add extra batteries to turn on the auto heating unit during the winter to keep the water from freezing when sitting idle during the cold winters, plus I would add a gas or diesel generator to keep the noise down when the vehicle is not idling that has a dual purpose to keep me comfortable as well as protecting the water system....
This baby has air suspension ride that handles like a Cadillac and turn corners as if you was driving an Maxima!
Oh I just need 6 winning numbers and my 45 feet bus with dreamy vintage machines in it would make my dreams come true!
LINK: http://www.prevostcar.com/eng/default.htm
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Post# 30047-6/6/2003-11:41 ||| davy1063 (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy Birthday to ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MESSAGE: HEY BUD!!! Happy Birthday! I hope you have a great summer too!!!
Dave
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Post# 30048-6/6/2003-11:50 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The perfect classic appliance-hauling truck
MESSAGE: a wheelchair lift....what an excellent idea for getting machines in and out of a van/truck!
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Post# 30049-6/6/2003-11:59 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: The perfect classic appliance-hauling truck
MESSAGE: yep, an awesome invention that is nice to have!
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Post# 30050-6/6/2003-12:09 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: "POD" for Friday, GE Washer & Dryer: (Thank you for info:)
MESSAGE: Hi! Steve 1-18, thank you for the info about the Machines. I wish I lived a whole lot closer and had enough extra money to spend on collectibles. I remembered after leaving my Posting Thursday night, that the Washer and Dryer's both had this Cylinder-Type Tube with the White and Red Painted surface on it, in a Spiral and as the Tube turned during the Cycle, it was indicating what the Machine was doing as that part of the Cycle. The Full Red indication would be from left to right, indicating that the Washer or Dryer was finished, being at the right side "Off Position" and I always thought that was such a neat way to show the progress of the Cycles.
There was also another Model Set that had the Fluorescent Light below the Console, but they looked otherwise just like the ones with the Light above the Console. For whatever reason, without looking at them directly, I don't remember why, but I didn't like the looks of the ones with the Light at the bottom, as much as being on the top of the Console.
Thanks again for the info, I look forward in hearing more stories about all of these and other Stories.
Best always, Big Teddy Bear Hugs, Steve
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Post# 30051-6/6/2003-12:14 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: "POD" for Friday, GE Washer & Dryer: (Re: GE "
POD"
Info:)
MESSAGE: Hey! Dear Club Friend's, thank you all for your nice replies to my inquiry and everyones stories about the "POD" GE Washer and Dryer. I always look forward in reading all of the Postings as others mention and I do as you see Post when I want to input my info as well, besides trying to help others out as well. Keep up the great Stories and Info Highway going always.
Big Teddy Bear Hugs, Steve
P.S. "Happy Birthday" Jamie, may your Birthday Appliance Wish come True for you...
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Post# 30052-6/6/2003-12:32 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy Birthday to ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Happy Birthday to ME)
MESSAGE: Jammie
I hope U have a Great Bday!
Peter
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Post# 30053-6/6/2003-14:10 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy Birthday to ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MESSAGE: YAY!
Birthday Best Wishes to you!
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Post# 30054-6/6/2003-20:00 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: MYSTERY GUEST
MESSAGE: Well you'll just have to guess who it is.....
B
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/chris.wmv
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Post# 30055-6/6/2003-21:00 ||| JAKINS (Kissimmee, Fl.)
SUBJECT: Workin onthe Westies
MESSAGE: Hi Guys.
I have been working on the westinghouse twins for a few days now. A big Thanks to Greg for the part # for the boot. also for the instructions. that part went off with no problems. Now for the big problem that I have found tonight. I looks like the speed control may be bad after all. I runs fine when the washer is empty and on spin, however when it is under a load it will not tumble. I checked to see that the pullys were tight and dry and they were. does anyone have any sugestions as to what i can do. or does anyone know where this part can be gotten. thanks
John
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/jakins2001/lst?&.dir=/GENERAL+ELECTRIC+DISHWASHER&.src=ph&.view=t
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Post# 30056-6/6/2003-21:10 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Workin onthe Westies
MESSAGE: John,
I subscribe to the DRS News. In the last issue ths is what I read:
The DRS News
May 2003
Welcome to the 1st anniversary issue of the DRSNews!
This newsletter is sent once each month, by request only.
If you enjoy it, you’re welcome to tell your friends about it.
They can subscribe by simply emailing us : drs@sosbbs.com
with the subject ‘SubscribeDRSN’ & their first name in the text.
Email: drs@sosbbs.com Phone: 570-363-2404
***************************************
In this issue:
1) ‘Clutch your belt!’ – Top Load Washer Drive Systems
1) Washer drive systems – belts as clutches:
Many washers today still use a drive belt of one type or another, and most of these LOOK like common ‘V-belts’ that can be bought at any auto-parts store.
But: They’re NOT! Be aware that most of these belts also serve as the spin *clutch*, and are specially treated so they can endure ‘controlled slippage’. Regular, non-treated belts will *fit* and the machine will agitate just fine, but will not slip, and all you’ll hear is ‘hummmm’ when the machine tries to spin.
This applies to those of Maytag manufacture (Maytag, Amana/Speed Queen, Norge, Admiral, Magic Chef) as well as
Frigidaire/Electrolux products (Frigidaire, Gibson, Kelvinator, Tappan, Westinghouse)
Trouble is, by the time you hear the dreaded ‘hum’, the tub’s
already full of soapy water and laundry, and the machine won’t
pump it out because it can’t spin with a ‘regular’ v-belt, designed NOT to slip! It agitated just fine, your tools are all put away, and you’re enjoying the admiring glances of the laundry person, but...
There are a couple of exceptions to the rule. GE/Hotpoints still use a spin clutch and regular belt (although on their newest ‘Profile’ models, the belt usually slips within 2-3 years anyway – from becoming oil-soaked!), and a ‘generic’ replacement will work. But the genuine GE belts are very reasonable and readily available.
Happy Washing,
Steve 1-18
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Post# 30057-6/6/2003-21:15 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy Birthday to ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MESSAGE: Jamie, Congratulations on becoming a teenager. I remember my 13th birthday, but it didn't have anything to do with appliances unfortunately. Hope it was a happy one.
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Post# 30058-6/6/2003-21:18 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: "POD" for Friday, GE Washer & Dryer:
MESSAGE: Darn, I honestly do not remember seeing this washer at all in the collection or warehouse. Rats!!! I think I'm still in overload mode from seeing everything that weekend.
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Post# 30059-6/6/2003-22:52 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Workin onthe Westies
MESSAGE: John,
I can't believe how well the inner tub cleaned up, very impressive work!
Please keep us updated on your progress with some more of those great photos!
-Alex
Fort Lauderdale, Florida
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Post# 30060-6/7/2003-00:50 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Workin onthe Westies
MESSAGE: You are doing a great job on the westy so far, your cleaning of the iron deposits on the tub and drum is truly beautiful, they look nearly new again!
I have some service info that might be helpful for adjusting that speed changer which I can try to get for you after the weekend. We've been busy working on the 55 Frigidaire unimatic rebuilding and some other exciting weekend finds which I will post pics of later.
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Post# 30061-6/7/2003-09:12 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Commercial Front-Load Washing Machine
MESSAGE: Hi Jamie
Congratulations on being 13.
Actually I just found out today that I forgot my nephew's 14th birthday on June 7th - how much trouble am I in???
Please follow the link to sandbox for your modern machine question.
Best Wishes
Chris
LINK: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Applianceville-Sandbox/message/1055
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Post# 30062-6/7/2003-10:31 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: Take a look....
MESSAGE: Does this look like a GE?
Not.....
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2327790229&category=20714
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Post# 30063-6/7/2003-12:24 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Take a look....
MESSAGE: Why does the seller makes these minor posting error?
The brand name is stamp right on the front of it!
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Post# 30064-6/7/2003-19:40 ||| Pulsator (826 Vesper ,Ann Arbor, Michigan 48103)
SUBJECT: The Time Has Come To Sell
MESSAGE: Well I am going to sell my Lady Kenmore washer and my Kenmore washer. They both work. The Lady Kenmore timer sticks on the normal cycle, but I am sure some of you applian experts can spray some sort of grease on it and get it to work fine again.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/agitatorjamie/lst?.dir=/My+Photos&.view=t
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Post# 30065-6/7/2003-20:57 ||| Applguy (Detroit)
SUBJECT: James Dishwasher
MESSAGE: I am looking for a James Manufacturing Co. dishwasher to purchase.... top load with glass top.
Mark
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Post# 30066-6/8/2003-02:40 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Take a look....
MESSAGE: Haha, I'de have to say Whirlpool:-) But really, maybe he tried to say "washer general. Electric top loader." And his terrible grammer messed us up? He still doesn't deserve a sale.
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Post# 30067-6/8/2003-05:56 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: Take a look.... (GENERAL)
MESSAGE: Gee, Kurt. You're so smart. I learn so much from reading your drivel 2 or 3 times a day that I just don't know how I managed to live this long without knowing someone as witty and intelligent as you. Are all Canadians as smart as you? I think everyone over 15 years old in the club now oughta just retire & go sit down while we let our 13 & 15 year olds here just tell any story that comes into their little minds - weather true or imaginary - so we can all just reply how wonderful the children are today.
So. What else can you tell us today about vintage appliances, Kurt Or Jamie? Don't know? Just make something up - like any of us old fools are gonna know you're just fabricating..
We'll read anything. We're old. (yeah, right)
CHAOS & MAYHEM to you.
B
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Post# 30068-6/8/2003-06:30 ||| Maniac (Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Take a look.... (GENERAL)
MESSAGE: BOB.....your an asshole
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Post# 30069-6/8/2003-06:31 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: Take a look.... (GENERAL Seems to have a bad day)
MESSAGE: Bob Who crawled up your butt and died. I thought that you had changed your bitter ways but I can see it was all a charade.
Philippe
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Post# 30070-6/8/2003-07:01 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: Rinse hold and cool off
MESSAGE: Ok guys time out lets be nice here, I wanna know something. Can any one tell if there are any more wings going to be open, on the classic appliances cyber museum.
Love and big bear hugz to all Kevin
LINK: http://www.kevinkunsworth.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
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Post# 30071-6/8/2003-07:15 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Take a look.... (GENERAL)
MESSAGE: Bob,
I must say your off the wall....LOL
what are we going to do with ya?
Well I'm going to go potty and drops some toys into the bowl and think about this one!
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Post# 30072-6/8/2003-07:24 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: OFF THE WALL
MESSAGE: Ya. I'm off the wall. Welcome to me. But DO NOT - maniac - come in to a public place and call ME any name like the one you did. That ain't gonna do.
B
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Post# 30073-6/8/2003-07:38 ||| maniac (Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: OFF THE WALL
MESSAGE: you know BOB.. it's people with your mightier than though attitude that make this world a bad place to live...
PEACE
Maniac
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Post# 30074-6/8/2003-07:39 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: Redistribute and restart the wash
MESSAGE: An appology is needed here guys Kevin
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Post# 30075-6/8/2003-07:47 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: maniac
MESSAGE: It's un-qualified, ignorant folks like you, and your posts calling me names and nothing more, that make THIS LIST no place for serious vintage appliance collectors. I agree - I think appoligies are in order.
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Post# 30076-6/8/2003-07:48 ||| maniac (Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Redistribute and restart the wash
MESSAGE: Yes, Kevin, I'm waiting to see how Bobby will apologize to Kurt this time, and while he's doing that all canadians for that matter.
PEACE & LOVE
Maniac
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Post# 30077-6/8/2003-08:03 ||| imperial70 (Mass)
SUBJECT: RE: The Time Has Come To Sell
MESSAGE: The newer Kenmore appears to have a surgilator type agitator. However, the fabric softener dispenser is not characteristic of a Whirlpool-made Kenmore. Anyone know who makes/made this product for Kenmore?
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Post# 30078-6/8/2003-09:46 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: The Time Has Come To Sell
MESSAGE: The agitator is a straight vane agitator and the front of the cabinet is a Roper design so that it makes it a Whirlpool product!
Roper had this cabinet design for their large capacity machines back in the 90's, but it was short in height for some reason???
Correct me if I'm wrong!!!
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Post# 30079-6/8/2003-10:03 ||| cehalstead (charleston, wv)
SUBJECT: vintage ads
MESSAGE: Could the webmaster contact me? I have lots of old appliance ads and would be willing to share.
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Post# 30080-6/8/2003-11:26 ||| Chicago-barry (Chicago)
SUBJECT: Oven Restoration Companies
MESSAGE: Does anyone know of a restoration company that isn't too far from, or is actually in Chicago? I'm thinking of buying an old Frigidaire Flair double oven, but I'd like to have it fully restored, inside and out.
Thanks
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Post# 30081-6/8/2003-13:04 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: The Time Has Come To Sell
MESSAGE: It's a portable just like my Lady K. It does look a little different though. I wonder what year this one is.
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Post# 30082-6/8/2003-13:22 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Rinse hold and cool off
MESSAGE: Kevin, the webmaster of this site who has a very large, wonderful collection of appliances, tvs, and such, is looking to move house just now and is very busy. It will probably be a while before any new wings sprout up, but it will be a great thing to look forward to when they do!
What part of England do you live in? Another friend and member also lives in England.
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Post# 30083-6/8/2003-14:17 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Redistribute and restart the wash
MESSAGE: I suggest that we mind our respective businesses on this one. It won't do to have a Canada vs.US situation. Haven't we had enough war already??
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Post# 30084-6/8/2003-15:55 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: The Time Has Come To Sell
MESSAGE: That is the Whirlpool World Washer. It's a great little machine when it works. Jamie, have you taken out the Fab Softener dispenser and cleaned the little lint filter thats in there?
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Post# 30085-6/8/2003-15:58 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: The Time Has Come To Sell
MESSAGE: That machine replaced the normal DD design portables. You can can see them at any Sears store. They are also sold under the GE name.
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Post# 30086-6/8/2003-16:13 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: The Time Has Come To Sell
MESSAGE: Yeah. My bad, there's 2 machines. One's a 70s or early 80s belt drive like mine and the other is a current WP portable machine. I was wondering the year is on the older one.
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Post# 30087-6/8/2003-16:40 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Take a look.... (GENERAL)
MESSAGE: No, we don't read everything. After a while, we pick and choose whose posts we want to read and to whom we want to respond. Whitty play on words, Kurt. Good thing we aren't so strict about deleting ascerbic posts, Bob.
-ph
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Post# 30088-6/8/2003-16:41 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Take a look.... (GENERAL)
MESSAGE: Totally uncalled for, Maniac...
-ph
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Post# 30089-6/8/2003-16:43 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Rinse hold and cool off
MESSAGE: Kevin, the museum takes time to video, transfer to digital, build the web page and transfer pics to it. Webmaster is moving, so we will have to wait patiently...
-ph
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Post# 30090-6/8/2003-16:45 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: vintage ads
MESSAGE: Your best bet is to scan them and send them to him via email... Robert is currently looking for new/more ads for the POD feature.
-ph
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Post# 30091-6/8/2003-17:15 ||| alr2903 (new orleans)
SUBJECT: RE: Take a look.... (GENERAL)
MESSAGE: Imperial Bob, I have to agree, speak your mind, and lets hope, this fab site stays VINTAGE, I thought that the sandbox was the place for some of these Field of Dreams ideas... I like to read the stories re: vintage and see the pics of vintage. As always Bob you have a way of getting to the heart of it. :-) ALR2903. P.S. Geoff Im eager to see those westy T/L pics.... Hope everyone has a great weekend.
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Post# 30092-6/8/2003-17:51 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: Rinse hold and cool off (You wanted to know )
MESSAGE: Hi there Scott, you wanted to know what area of England I live in. I live in the North East of England a place called Gateshead, in the county of Tyneside. Love and big hairy hugz
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Post# 30093-6/8/2003-18:02 ||| christfr (st louis mo)
SUBJECT: time to play
MESSAGE: arnt weekends just the best when you have time to play with your toys? after waiting for play time to finally roll around its just wonderful. have to say firgidaire-hamilton made a fantastic dryer in 1954 finally got to play with mine after a total cleaning and rewire she just goes and goes and goes. hope i still run that well when i get to be her age
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Post# 30094-6/8/2003-18:53 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: Rainy Weekend
MESSAGE: I spent the rainy weekend replumbing, rewiring, reventing, rearranging. The pictures will show you how things stacked up!
I also put some JB Weld in the pinholes of the GE outertub. I'm going to let it dry for a few days and then will see if the old girl is 'seaworthy.'
Plans are to move the Lady Kenmore Dryer / Kenmore 900 Washer alongside the stacked sets. That will leave 24 inches. Ha! Just enough room for a dishwasher.
The former work bench area now is home to the 60 something and 57 Maytags which are hooked up and running, but were covered with boxes and laundry at the moment. Will add pictures when I clean up that wall. If the GE is watertight, it will also go on that wall.
The other side of the island will eventually house the Frigidaire wing. Right now it too is in disarray so no pictures to post.
Hope all of you had a GREAT weekend.
Steve1-18
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/svb14_2003/slideshow?&.dir=/June+2003&.src=ph&.view=t
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Post# 30095-6/8/2003-19:46 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: Sunday Afternoon, Thrift Store find:
MESSAGE: Hi! Dear Club Friend's, I went out to a couple of Thrift Stores on Sunday Afternoon, with a Freind, besides going to do some Retail Shopping and I found a White GE Mini-Basket with the Lint Filter along with the Mini-Basket, for $2.99 for both item's. Now I just need to find a GE Washer with Mini-Wash System to put it in. The Mini-Basket is shaped for the
Curved-Vane Agitator, which I like over the Straight-Vane Agitator Machines. I can't wait to find a GE Washer with the Mini-Wash Cycle to put it in, to check it out, as with the Washer too. "Wish Me Luck" I guess I'll have to go to the Used Appliance Dealer's again to find the GE Mini-Wash Washer. Would anyone happen to know an approx. year of these particular Washer's? I'm guessing around maybe late-70s or early 80s, but I'm not totally sure.
Best to everyone and Big Teddy Bear Hug's, Steve
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Post# 30096-6/8/2003-21:05 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Take a look.... (GENERAL)
MESSAGE: What the hell's the matter with you? First, wtf did Jamie do? Was it his post about his birthday that pissed you off? Or is it just because he is a kid? I know this is a classic appliances website but holy hell, who told you to read my post? I post like once every few days, just live with it. And why would you ask if all Canadians are as smart as me. OMG what the hell does that have to do with anything? I thought this site was supposed to be about classic appliances. Canadians are just as smart as Americans, why would there be any difference? And I think you get your "Whethers" messed up. You said "weather or not its true" I think you meant to say "whether or not its true" And you are impying that I am dumb? HA. Why don't you just leave us alone? A lot of people here obviously don't like reading your stupid, OFF TOPIC posts about me. So just LEAVE ME ALONE!!
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Post# 30097-6/8/2003-21:09 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Redistribute and restart the wash
MESSAGE: You can't just smooth that BS that Bob said. If he implies Canadians are dumb, boy do my parents ever have some stories from their Alaskan cruise.
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Post# 30098-6/8/2003-21:16 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: I think Bob created even more off topic crap than I could provide.
MESSAGE: Every time he blows up, there are tons of posts even more off topic than any of mine. There would have been no reason for me to post this, but now I have to. BOB WIRTH is the only bad, disappointing thing/person I have come across on this great site. Too bad he had to show up. I am normally a forgiving person, but why would I forgive Bob for anything. Look back, he has nothing but shit to say about me. I hope things get back to normal, besides, I have had many people tell me to continue posted regardless of what big, bad BOB says. So too bad Bob, you didn't get rid of me.
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Post# 30099-6/8/2003-21:26 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: Don't let this happen to you (stuck in washer)
MESSAGE: I guess that shows you what I know about the newer appliances... The lack of mechanical aptitude can get rather expensive in this case then.
MrCoffee
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Post# 30100-6/8/2003-21:32 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Don't let this happen to you (stuck in washer)
MESSAGE: I guess it would.
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Post# 30101-6/8/2003-21:38 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: Sunday Afternoon, Thrift Store find: (I got one of those)
MESSAGE: I got lucky when I grabbed mine off the side of a curb! Cleaned it up and plugged it in, and it runs like a champ. Unfortunately, it has some paint splatters on the control panel that I can't remove without scratching it, so I would like to find a new one if possible. My machine has the curved-vane agitator Sacto. I managed to get my mini-basket from a recycler. If you would post a picture of your machine, I can tell you when it was made approximately. Most likely, your minibasket fits a machine made in the mid 1980s if it's white. I believe earlier models had a blue mini-basket, but I'm not sure. Curved-vaned agitators made in the 1960s were usually black, while later models (1970s and later) where white.
You can sometimes find a GE Filter-Flow at a Salvation Army store, or some appliance recyclers may have one. Fewer of them will become available as time passes, and I am sure they will increase in value like old Frigidaires. I plan to move mine with me when ever I find a new place to live, whether or not there is a hookup for a washer. Good luck on finding one, and I am sure its simplicity and ease of repairs will give you many years of enjoyment!
MrCoffee
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Post# 30102-6/8/2003-21:47 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Rainy Weekend
MESSAGE: Steve, congrats on the rearranging. Hmm, definitely MY wall of washers LOL, all front loaders (except when there's a GM Frigidaire in the area). Hmm, which machine will I put that bright light on first. And what is the "All" product, an Oxyclean type of thing??? WHERE do you get such a large bottle of Down Advanced/Enhancer? Nice to see the AEG back in service. I love that machine. And the new Westy that wasn't there when I was there in August.
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Post# 30103-6/8/2003-22:00 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: The Time Has Come To Sell (I have one of those.)
MESSAGE: A couple interesting things about these machines.
1) They have an action similar to the old Westinghouse top loaders, where the basket moves with each stroke of the agitator.
2) They are belt-driven just like the old Kenmores and Whirlpools, and have a short whine with each stroke.
3) You can pull the fabric softener dispersor, and add place the detergent down the middle of the agitator, just like you would with one of the old Frigidaire Three-Rings!
The clothing doesn't rotate much, but if you place the clothing in loosely, then circulation will be adequate to produce the desired results. They suds very little, so you can add a very good dose of high-sudsing detergent for some real cleaning power! And their capacity is such that they'll almost hold as much as a full-sized machine.
There isn't much to see in these little machines, but their results will surprise you. They are not a classic in any sense of the word, but they *do* share some of the same atributes of the old Kenmores, Whirlpools, and Frigidaires (well, not with the same excitement).
MrCoffee
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Post# 30104-6/8/2003-23:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Take a look.... (GENERAL)
MESSAGE: I should delete this post, but since its soooo ludicrous I leave it here for all to see. Bob please think before you post, this was completely uncalled for.
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Post# 30105-6/8/2003-23:03 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: maniac (Re: Apologies about all this upsetness:)
MESSAGE: I totally agree that everyone should apologize and I certainly think that BOB should be the first one to start them too.
I can't believe what I saw on the Posting's happening like this, instead of being able to read and enjoy everyone's input and especially just be calm with any and all inquirie's and comment's between each other's interest and feelings about if something is or isn't correctly indicated in any or all Posting's.
Let's all just try to keep to the Topic's and Subject's of this Site and all get along, instead of being ready to
"Cut Throat's" {DAMN-IT}...
This has gotten into looking like a Pre-School of Kid's, instead of Younger and Older Adult's with all of this
"Mud-Slinging" and let's keep the Profanity out of the Site from now on as well, even without even any kind of Abbreviation's.
So now I've put my own 2-Cent's worth in to this too and hope that someone will "Grow-Up" and just keep quiet, if they don't have something nice to say or comment about.
Regrets, Steve "SactoTeddyBear"
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Post# 30106-6/8/2003-23:09 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: maniac (Re: Apologies about all this upsetness:)
MESSAGE: Well said Steve. I am sorry about my comments on this site. That doesn't change how I feel about what Bob said, but I am sorry that everyone had to read the rift between me and Bob. A piece of advice, if someone has a problem with something I do/say, please do e-mail me. There is no reason to "show off" keep the arguments private please. I don't want to dig myself a deeper hole, so please e-mail me.
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Post# 30107-6/8/2003-23:13 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: maniac (Re: Apologies about all this upsetness:)
MESSAGE: Thank you Kurt, that was very nice to read, I don't blame you for being angry, sometimes its hard to tell who is the 15 year old and who is the 40 year old. Anyway, I know I can speak for 99.9% of the club members who are thrilled to have the kind diversity that classic appliances has, be it age, nationality or what ever else. Speaking of nationality, to show our appreciation of our Canadian members, tomorrow's picture of the day will be in honor of our friends to the north.
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Post# 30108-6/8/2003-23:36 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: An Empty Basement
MESSAGE: In preparation for our move I had to clear out the basement and leave a washer and a dryer to sell with the house. Since we wont be closing on our new house for until the end of the month this is what I will be washing and drying in for a while. The washer was found about two years ago on a St. Paul street and Greg just found the dryer for me behind Lowes in Omaha. Thanks Greg, the dryer seems to work fine.
Oy, I just can't seem to get used to doing only one wash load at a time!
Oh and don't even ask me about the new dishwasher, I have never seen such a poor performance in all my life.
LINK: http://classicappliances.com/TEMP/Empty.jpg
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Post# 30109-6/8/2003-23:52 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: '57 maytag ad?
MESSAGE: Take a look at this maytag. In the picture it seems it has the float water level control/lid switch. But the console and controls look like it would have the typical air pressure water level control. I can't figure out which one it has.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3612537665&category=13596
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Post# 30110-6/9/2003-00:09 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: '57 maytag ad?
MESSAGE: Kurt, I believe the buttons on the left say "Save Suds" "Drain Suds" "Regular Fabrics" "Modern Fabrics" and of course Hot-Warm-Cold on the right.
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Post# 30111-6/9/2003-00:51 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: '57 maytag ad? (Re: Actuator on Lid:)
MESSAGE: Hey! Kurt, if you look real close at the part of the Lid, just above the Woman's Hand, see the Pink round Dial? That is the Water Level Control and it sets the Black "Button-Like" piece sitting down behind the Water Level Controller in and out to allow the Washer to fill at the requested levels. The
Push-Button's on the Left are either as mentioned by Unimatic1000 as Suds and Fabric Selections, etc. and the Right Push-Button's are for Water Temp Selection. See the Chrome top of the Agitator? Some of the Washer's of that era had a removable Float-Tube in the center of the Agitator, similar to that one, except the Chrome Top Float in this E-Bay Advertised Washer had the Float I believe set onto the top of the Agitator with a Suction-Like Rubber under Seal that is attached to the Chrome Float and the Agitator and is a stretchable/flexible substance and it raises with Air Pressure to allow the Float to rise and touch the Rubber Button and stop the Filling and start the Agitation. The other Model's that have the separate Float insert operates the same way of Air raising it to the Rubber Button to stop the Water Filling and start the Wash action. Inside the 2-piece Lid there is a set of Mercury Tubes with parts of Wire inside, but not quite touching each other. When the Float rises and touches the Rubber Button,the Mercury Switches inside the Lid tip towards the other direction that they were in while Water Fill and the Mercury inside closes the Circuit to start the Agitation as with in the Fill direction, they allow the Water to Fill. They used to use this similar set-up in house Thermostats to turn On and Off the Heat/Air Temp Setting, until they started finding out how dangerous that Mercury was to work with. I hope that you understand how I tried to explain this for you and I hope that this doesn't create problems with certain people, thinking that I'm a "Know-It-All" because I'm just trying to help someone "Younger" to understand about something that was before their time of how a particular action of an older Washer Filled and Started the Agitation. Maybe I'm being sarcastic, but after everything going on lately, I'm not wanting to step on "Toes" and I certainly don't want to be trying to talk about something that I might not know about. That is why I wrote my input about this, because I have worked on similar Washer's and one of our Relatioves happened to have one of the other Similar types of Washer's with the separate Float part inside the Agitator. Their Washer was the Flat-Top Maytag "AMP" with the Timer and Water Temp Controls on the
Top-Front of the Washer. OH, how I wish I had that beautiful 1950 Maytag "AMP" Washer, but my Relatives traded it in for a newer Mid-60s Maytag A-606 Washer.
My best to everyone and Big Teddy Bear Hug's, Steve
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Post# 30112-6/9/2003-02:09 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: '57 maytag ad? (Re: Actuator on Lid:)
MESSAGE: Thanks Steve and Unimatic! I knew the "flat top" Maytags had that mercury switch, but I thought that once Maytag switched to the console styling, they switched the water level sensing system to today's type. I guess not until a few years later. BTW Steve, we are talking about vintage washers here so there shouldn't be a problem. I hope not anyway...
I have seen those Maytag AMP washers. For whatever reason, they remind me of a compact washer. They are pretty cool to look at though.
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Post# 30113-6/9/2003-03:10 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: '57 maytag ad? (Re: Actuator on Lid:)
MESSAGE: Hey! Kurt, we seem to be just missing each other checking out the Posting's, what a laugh!!!
By the way, I forgot to mention, unless I'm wrong, I believe that the Maytag's like in the E-Bay listing are an "AMP" as well, but they naturally came out with a Console, instead of the "Flat-Top" original "AMP" Model's.
The original "Flat-Top" and I think the later ones with a Console had the Perforated Tub, but it was inside an outer Solid Tub, right next to the Preforated Tub and they then had a Larger Outer Tub, similar to the Frigidaire Washer, that the Water was Spun out into, then Pumped out of the Outer Tub. My Relative's "Flat-Top" "AMP" Washer had the Red Agitator and Red Lettering on the Timer and Water Temp Control's. It also had the separate FLoat, inside the Agitator, instead of being attached to the Agitator. There is an identical Washer on display at a local Maytag Dealer. I would love to have one of those or another older Washer, but maybe with the Pressure Fill Water Level Control. I would also love to have one of the Push-Button Mayatg Washer's, like the one that is on the Beverly Hillbilly's and with any of the Maytag Washer's I find, I don't care what Color the Cabinet's are either.
I don't know for sure what year they came out with the Pressure Controlled Filling, but I would guess between late 50s and early 60s. If anyone else knows for sure, I'm certainly curious to what year they made the change too.
Big Teddy Bear Hug's Steve
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Post# 30114-6/9/2003-05:38 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: An Empty Basement
MESSAGE: Well Robert - that was quite an undertaking - I cannot imagine how long it took to move all those machines. It does seem strange to see the basement with only one of each machine.......
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Post# 30115-6/9/2003-06:01 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: '57 maytag ad? (Aunt Julia's Maytag)
MESSAGE: Robert (Uni) had this particular washer. I must say he did a splendid job of restoring it. He even added a switch to defeat the the mercury switches and operate the washer with the lid open.
The washer moved from Minneapolis to Omaha where Greg adopted her. Last summer at the DC convention, there was a similar one in the museum and I remarked what wonderful memories and sentimental value that particular machine had. Greg overheard me and told me he would part with it knowing it would go to a good home.
Last October, I was in the 'neighboorhood' and just happen to be towing a trailer behind (Yeah! Right!). Next thing I knew, there were 5 machines in the back!
One of those was the '57 maytag AMP.
Steve1-18
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Post# 30116-6/9/2003-07:42 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: '57 maytag ad? (Aunt Julia's Maytag)
MESSAGE: Funny thing about that Steve. I understand that completely - because for me the 1956 Norge Timeline provides the same connection to very happy memories of a favorite aunt who was willing to do anything in the world for me. And not just playing with the machine either. Reading, playing games, trips to the park, talking, (the way kids generally don't talk to their parents) forbidden ice cream sodas at the corner drug store fountain, etc... And in fact, she not only understood the fun of washers, she too got a great deal of pleasure out of doing laundry. It was her favorite household activity - she thought there was nothing more relaxing. So, seeing a willing pupil, she proceeded to teach me everything she knew about how to do laundry and do it flawlessly. She always commented "How can people NOT care about their laundry? Your clothes are the first thing people see when they meet you......"
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Post# 30117-6/9/2003-08:10 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: An Empty Basement
MESSAGE: Kinda spooky seeing just one pair of machines there instead of that big beautiful collection.
Man I wish I was buying the house. At least I'd get a Westy FL in addition to Sir F and the Lil' Lady (whose spring has sprung) and not to mention room to have a collection and a home theater.
X-Men and Kenmores? yep
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Post# 30118-6/9/2003-08:59 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: '57 maytag ad? (Re: Maytag AMP)
MESSAGE: Hi all.
I think I might have already asked this before and forgotten the answer, but...
What does AMP stand for in relation to Maytag?
Thanks folks.
Chris.
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Post# 30119-6/9/2003-09:04 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: An Empty Basement
MESSAGE: Hi Robert
That move must have been a big job!
Where are the babies stored now?
At least that Westy has some entertainment potential, I was worried when clicking on the link to your photo you were going to be stuck using a (shriek!) modern (gasp!) washer!
Does Neal still have that Asko to use? Or is his washer packed away too?
Best of luck with it and with your move.
Chris.
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Post# 30120-6/9/2003-09:10 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: the pleasure of fresh laundry
MESSAGE: I had better warn you that this isn't vintage-related, but...
We have had a few wet days in a row so I had delayed doing laundry waiting for a sunny day... It didn't arrive so I had to do a few loads in the Asko to catch up. My hubby is not in the least laundry-literate (he is not even allowed to touch the washer except to unload it when finished) so I was very surprised when he walked into the lounge room as I was reading posts here, he said to me "oh, this is so lovely, eighteen handkerchiefs washed, dry, ironed and ready!"
I didn't know he cared...
Chris.
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Post# 30121-6/9/2003-09:46 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: the pleasure of fresh laundry
MESSAGE: Chris, they care about the finished product, just not how you get there, as long as they don't have to do it. We don't even live together yet, and I do everything in my power not to have Allen do any laundry, LOL. It's a much better world that some folks just leave others to handle this stuff!
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Post# 30122-6/9/2003-09:48 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: '57 maytag ad? (Aunt Julia's Maytag)
MESSAGE: She sounds a lot like my mom and grandma. People like that are altogether too rare today. While on one hand it's nice when we have or see things that remind us of them, on the other it's sad that there's not a lot of people in later generations taking their places.
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Post# 30123-6/9/2003-12:02 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: The Pleasure of DIRTY laundry
MESSAGE: Full laundry basket = Happy Jason . Washing machine time!
Empty laundry basket = sad Jason . It's all over until next week :-(
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Post# 30124-6/9/2003-13:22 ||| Mfilip (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: 1925 Roper Stove. i need to know value
MESSAGE: Hi. i've had a 1925 Roper stove, very very good condition, works. owned about twenty years. i need to sell it and don't want to get ripped off on the price. does anyone know it's approximate value?
MFilip@aol.com
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Post# 30125-6/9/2003-13:38 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: EEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
MESSAGE: I am not a happy bear here guys, it seems my Hotpoint 1st edition front loader has a problem. It appears to be missing and skipping cycles, mechanically its ok. I am fearing that the program control maybe on its way out, but please do correct me if I am wrong. The machine is 6 years old, I would appreciate some HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP
Love and big hairy hugz to all Kevin
LINK: http://www.kevinkunsworth.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
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Post# 30126-6/9/2003-13:43 ||| salvoboy (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: POD - O Canada!
MESSAGE: Thank you for the interesting POD in hono(u)r of our Canadian brothers (and sisters). This was a refreshing lift from the nonsense that took place over the weekend.
Excuse my ignorance, but from the description of the washing action etc. the Leonard seems like an ABC product, right? Can anyone enlighten me on the history of the machine/company? Did they market under the Leonard name in the US as well or just as ABC/Kelvinator? Thanks!
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Post# 30127-6/9/2003-14:11 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: Significant's TRYING to HELP with Washday
MESSAGE: Yes,
I to have had a tragedy with my Significant Martin trying to do wash while I was gone to a funeral this spring. He WAS trying to be helpful , but this is what he did.
When you walk into my laundry on One side are my Westinghouse Space-mates that are my everyday washer and dryer,installed under a countertop with a washsink at the end by the washer.On the other side are my Frigidaire Custom Imperial 1-18's that my great uncle gave me. I never use them, except once in awhile when the mood hits me and I want to make sure by running them that their ok.
My 1966 Lady K's are at moms right now until my basements done.
Which ones do you think he decided to use.
What Happened to Martin whilst using them.
What kept me from losing sanity and choking him.
I can visiualize for all what happened in his brain of brains while it's happening to him...He sorted out stuff fine (as usual) and took them from the bedroom to the laundry. After what seemed like an eternity and weighing the pro's and con's of his ability to live; he decided he wanted to use the Frigidaires as they are "SoCool" to him, and I wasn't home so WHY NOT.
He opened the lid to the 1-18 and proceeded to dump in two cups of Cheer a cup of Borateem and a half cup of Clorox into the tub ( he ALWAYS OVERSOAPS STUFF). He loades into the washer the whites and decided that he had some room left(which he does to the Westinghouses as well) so he puts into the washer with all the previous.. four of my GOOD workshirts, and five "just purchased" Marshall Fields $30.00 heavy bath towels which were dark green.
He closes the lid sets the water selector to highest level(as usual) sets the temperature to hot/warm (why he does this confuses me)turns the dial to Regular Wash(good) and goes out to the patio to drink hims some beer and sun hiself for the afternoon (as usual on a nice day).
10 minutes later his beer is gone and needs another. He has to walk thru the back patio door into the laundry to go back into the kitchen. As he steps thru the slider he notices that he's standing in about 6 inches of thick heavy suds and my beautiful 1-18 is chugging out more and more of it with ever pulse of the cone. He hurriedly shuts it off and throws everything in the tub into a laundry basket and throws it out the back patio door.
He then grabs my broom and begins sweeping the excess suds out the doorway as well. Then he goes to his shop in the garage and gets his huge manly 12 gallon "Craftsman Shop Vac" I still give him crap for that too (it's NOT a HOOVER)..and begins to suck up all of the residue and also sucks out the tub of the 1-18. He then gets out the mop and mops up all the remains even moving the 1-18's and the Westinghouses to remove all traces of soap and all shreds of evidence for me to find.
He then reruns a load of cold/cold thru the 1-18 to rinse it out moves them back into place. Resets the Westinghouses under the counter and sets his huge blowerfan in the doorway to dry out the laundry room.
Deciding that the load was too big to hide from the ordeal in just one spot. He devises a plan to fool me (never works)so he takes the whole laundry basket out to his garage shop and uses the water hose in his laundry tub sink to rinse them all out. When he visiualizes that they are indeed ruined, he decides to hide them from me.
My Work shirts end up under a pile of rags and crap in a corner of his shop, the towels he hides in a storage closet in the garage under a pile of rags we use to wash our cars and my whites....
The man had the gumption to go up into the attic and hide them in a box of clothes I havent worn since MC Hammer was on the charts and then shuts up about the whole incident.
I get home Sunday afternoon and he's happily sitting watching his Sports in the den asking me how the funeral went and being all sorts of happy to see me, also all sorts of I love you's were exchanged. Knowing full well that he screwed up I did a check of the house and looked everywhere Last place I looked was my laundry room because well I just diddn't think to look ther first. I walked straight to the laundry room and flung open the door. Looked fine. I smiled as he was sweating like a stuck pig and opened the lid to the 1-18's and their was SOAP RESIDUE under the lid.
BUSTED...
Well that night he slept out on the couch because we had a huge fight over lying to me about everything being ok and for using my washer, and for hiding stuff instead of just telling me the truth.
As the whole story came out the next morning I felt bad for getting angry over a washer but these are my 1-18's No one uses them not even me. And every time he looked at me after telling me in his own words what happened...I laughed so hard my sides hurt.
To sum it up...he only uses the Westinghouse's now. And uses FAR FAR FAR less soap then he thought he needed to. I have drawn up pictured diograms for him to follow. He even uses a measuring cup to make sure...
So that is my laundry tale for now
And Remember...
They will mess up....When you leave em' home.
Yours
Chad
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Post# 30128-6/9/2003-15:36 ||| maniac (Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: maniac (Re: Apologies about all this upsetness:)
MESSAGE: Hi Kurt. I'm sorry I openned my mouth in your defence, and aired my feelings in the room. I should have never did that. If i've caused you any grief, I apologize. To the rest of the room, I apologize for bringing this into the open room . I should have done it privatly in an email. I hope this doesn't diminish the appretiation for vintage appliances that you have Kurt..once again I apologize.
peace
Maniac
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Post# 30129-6/9/2003-15:49 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Significant's TRYING to HELP with Washday
MESSAGE: My gosh,
I always tell everyone who stayed in my house to use the machines but"Do Not Wash My Clothes!"
I like to do my own laundry and I don't like my whites turning all colors but white and my sweaters looking like they had a fight with 5 tom cats who never played with a ball of yarn before!
Great laundry story Chad thanks!
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Post# 30130-6/9/2003-15:56 ||| maniac (Canada)
SUBJECT: POD.. Ces't magnifique
MESSAGE: Une tres belle machine..mais j'ais jamais vue une come ca. est-ce qui'll a quelqun qui connait quelque chose de cette machine..je vous empris.
Lamoure & Paix
Maniac
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Post# 30131-6/9/2003-17:08 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - O Canada!
MESSAGE: Yeah, that does look like the ABC. Too bad I can't read/speak french at all:-) That was a nice gesture. I am saving every POD so I can look at them any time, they are so interesting:-)
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Post# 30132-6/9/2003-17:15 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - O Canada!
MESSAGE: I believe Kelvinator used the name Leonard in Canada, much like Whirlpool uses Inglis. The ABC Corp. made washers for Leonard/Kelvinator, and also sold them themselves under the name ABC-O-Matic until about 1958, when I believe Kelvinator (American Motors?) bought the operation outright and continued to sell similar washers for another 10 or so years.
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Post# 30133-6/9/2003-17:15 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: maniac (Re: Apologies about all this upsetness:)
MESSAGE: Don't worry, things are settled down on this site now. I just like to read about the appliances and the vintage appliances. I do post sometimes and obviously I upset people because my comments aren't vintage enough. Although I like the appliance talk, people talk about other things as well, but I don't feel a need to get mad at them.
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Post# 30134-6/9/2003-17:24 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: maniac (Re: Apologies about all this upsetness:)
MESSAGE: Please, stop beating this dead horse!!! I do not post much because while I love vintage washers, I get annoyed by all of the other petty BS. That being said, lets talk about VINTAGE and move the rest to the sandbox.
To Jason and ALR, room is finished and machines in place; just waiting for the drain line to be connected to the building, then all 4 Frigidaires will be ready to roll!!!
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Post# 30135-6/9/2003-18:11 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: maniac (WOOHOO)
MESSAGE: PULSA PULSA PULSA PULSA PULSA PULSA
I want to revideo your 1-18 because I accidentally recorded Beavis & Butthead over it LOL. no kidding. Right in the middle of the spin cycle... "huhuh huhuhuh huhuh huhuhuu huhuhuh that was cool... heheheh hehehe.."
:-(
I also want to record your Skinny Mini. That must be PHUN.
Do you have a DVD player? I can make you a DVD of the convention. Or a videotape if you don't have a DVD.
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Post# 30136-6/9/2003-18:12 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: Significant's TRYING to HELP with Washday (Men what would we do with out them)
MESSAGE: I take it all is ok now between you both, :-) great story, it had me cringeing LOL
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Post# 30137-6/9/2003-19:14 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: 1955 Unimatic Comes to Life!
MESSAGE: Hi all - we had quite an exciting and busy weekend around here! Some of the Frigidaire enthusiasts had mentioned that they would like to see a Unimatic mechanism rebuilt so I organized the event and we had a great weekend of hunting, washing and rebuilding fun.
Thursday, Peter and I met Don and Jimmy at the Early, Iowa store I found last summer for another hunting day and found some very neat and rare machines. Jimmy found a Maytag dishwasher from 1968-69 (the first entry by Maytag into the diswasher market) and a 1968 Custom Deluxe Frigidaire washer and matching dryer. Peter found a very cool 1961 Custom Imperial Filtrator with fold-down control panel, Don found a matching dryer to his 1965 Custom Deluxe Frigidaire washer in gas. I brought home a 1968 Westinghouse top-loading washer, another top and controls for my Maytag 906 washer and a very, very rare full-sized Hoover washer and matching dryer from the early 70's made by Blackstone. I have been there three times, once with Jimmy last fall and we missed all of these cool things! It's a good thing we had 4 strapping guys there as we had to remove a window from the building and push them to waiting hands outside! When we got back to Omaha Thursday evening we were joined by Robert (uni) and Rich (golittlesport) for a fun driveway inspection of all our new finds and the beautiful 56 GE washer Robert brought to play with.
Friday we did some more washer play in the driveway and then got to work on the unimatic mechanism from my 1955 Imperial washer. We tore the whole thing down and put the parts to soak for a few hours while we watched some Frigidaire training filmstrips from the 1940's & 50's.
Saturday morning we hit a few dismal estate sales and came back to put the mechansim back together again. Within a few hours we had it finished and back in the machine running like a top. We gave it a test run, or 10 and it worked perfectly. After lots of washing and work, we had a great Chinese dinner while watching some great vintage commercials on DVD.
We had a lot of fun and shared lots of appliance stories and laughs all weekend. Thanks to all for a great weekend and your help with the fabulous 1955 unimatic washer!
I've posted pictures that Peter and I took over the course of the weekend, there is a secondary album with the unimatic pictures. Unfortunately I couldn't take many pics of the actual disassembly and rebuilding of the mechanism as my camera battery died Thursday afternoon and needed replacing. We still got lots of great pictures between us and I'm sure we'll be seeing more from the other guys as well.
Hope everyone had a great weekend - Greg
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst?.dir=/June+2003&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/
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Post# 30138-6/9/2003-19:17 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: An Empty Basement
MESSAGE: It certainly looks like you'll have a sad appliance life for the next few weeks...could be worse I guess - you might have gotten the matching washer to the GE dryer!
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Post# 30139-6/9/2003-19:30 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: maniac (Re: Apologies about all this upsetness:)
MESSAGE: Like I said, you should've emailed me. There was no reason to say that on here.
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Post# 30140-6/9/2003-19:35 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1955 Unimatic Comes to Life! (What washer is this)
MESSAGE: I don't recognize the washer next to the Maytag DW.
What brand/model is that?
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/June+2003&.dnm=61+CI+Filtrator.jpg&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp%3f.dir=/June%2b2003%26.dnm=westy%2bwasher.jpg%26.src=ph
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Post# 30141-6/9/2003-19:37 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1955 Unimatic Comes to Life! (nevermind)
MESSAGE: I should've just kept going. It's a westy. That's rare
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Post# 30142-6/9/2003-19:38 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1955 Unimatic Comes to Life! (nevermind)
MESSAGE: I should've just kept going. It's a westy. That's rare
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Post# 30143-6/9/2003-19:50 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: Significant's TRYING to HELP with Washday
MESSAGE: Yes,
Things are just perfect...as I said It's just a washing machine incident albeit somewhat funny. I would have been dissappointed in him for hiding the ruined clothes if it had happened in the Westinghouse's. But he knew my phrase "The Frigidaire's are a nono". That was the real issue.
Significants hide small things from each other all the time...It's just that when a sane and responsible person errs like that purposely, when there is no reason or need to...well there is just no excuse for that.
Martin has used them since In fact I let him use them last Saturday because he HAD to show his mom how they worked, after questioning him as to why we needed TWO washer and dryer sets.
She hasn't been to our new house since we bought it last summer...THANK YOU HESUS...And Thank god he diddn't tell her about my LadyK's. I told her that they were my Great Grandma's and couldn't bear to part with them.
Anyway, she just couldn't get over all the woodgrain and chrome and the beige paint I thought the woman was gonna faint. I wont tell you what she said the pulsing reminded her of. Of course I would expect nothing more from an ol "Hippie turn Yuppie".
Anyway...Marty...he's a keeper just like my 1-18's and most importantly It's an "inanimate" he's "animate". I could technically find another Frigiaire...you can't find a Significant like my Marty every day.
All for now
Chad
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Post# 30144-6/9/2003-20:43 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: 1955 Unimatic Comes to Life! (Unimatic Comes to Life)
MESSAGE: Whoooa Guys
You all got some great collection. I wish I could have been their. I never realized blackstone made hoover washers.
Happy Washing and Jetaction
Peter
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Post# 30145-6/9/2003-21:00 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: An Empty Basement
MESSAGE: Robert, at least I'll always have memories of that wonderful basement and pictures to document it too. Hopefully the new basement will be even larger, accommodate more machines connected simultaneously, and space for even more machines.
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Post# 30146-6/9/2003-21:09 ||| tumbleaction (North Las Vegas, NV)
SUBJECT: Canadian Detergents
MESSAGE: Back in the 80's when I was studying in Canada, I noticed several brands that we don't have in the US, such as Sunlight, Arctic Power, and ABC. Are there any Canadian detergent freaks out there who can give me the spin on Canuck suds?
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Post# 30147-6/9/2003-21:32 ||| salvoboy (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - O Canada!
MESSAGE: Thanks Scott. You're always so kind and helpful. :-)
I may have answered a bit more of my own question with a quick online search. The link below gives some more scoop on Leonard and Kelvinator if you or anyone else is interested.
LINK: http://www.homestead.com/amchistory/files/amchistkela.html
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Post# 30148-6/9/2003-22:07 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1955 Unimatic Comes to Life! (YAY for pictures)
MESSAGE: YAY, wonderful pictures Greg and Peter. Thanks again for a wonderful weekend, it was so very nice to see everyone again.
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Post# 30149-6/9/2003-22:10 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: An Empty Basement (Bite you're tonge)
MESSAGE: Shutter the thought! The dryer works, but it seems to want to dry for an hour longer than it should on the automatic cycle, oh well, if timed cycles were good enough for 1953, they are certainly good enough for 2003.
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Post# 30150-6/9/2003-22:28 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: the use of bluing
MESSAGE: Hi everyone! I was just wondering, as I laundered my sheets in the 61 Whirlpool;am I the only one around that still uses bluing for white sheets? I can't recall anyone talking about bluing before.It really gets the sheets bright white! I have used it for years.Never bleach.Bleach yellows after a while.You have to be careful when using bluing,as it can streak the material if not mixed well.I mix it with water in an old fruit jar,then slowly pour it in the Magic-Mix filter as the washer is running on the final rinse.I then stop the machine for 5 minutes or so.It's cool how it turns the water blue! Then restart the machine and let it finish. I have also used it in my 66 G.E. Filter-Flo,pouring it in the filter tray.The stuff is not expensive,and it works great. I use Mrs. Stewarts brand because it's a liquid type. Best to all of you! (-: Rick R.
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Post# 30151-6/9/2003-22:40 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: An Empty Basement (GE auto-dry setting)
MESSAGE: If that dryer is akin to my GE/F&P, the auto cycles do tend toward the dry side. Try setting it toward the less dry end of the scale, even to the point of just barely catching the heat portion before the cool-down begins . . . depending on your preference for dryness.
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Post# 30152-6/9/2003-22:59 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: 55 Unimatic comes to life
MESSAGE: Hi Guys
What a great experience seeing a Unimatic tranny being rebuilt! That beautiful machine purrs like a kitten now. Thanks to everyone there for making it suck a fun event....and especially Greg for hosting! Here are a few more pics. Sorry I didn't get more of the rebuild. I intended to document it step by step....but once we got going I was so involved in what was going on I forgot to take pics. I also missed taking a pic of the Hoover set! How did I do that? And I also want to know who took a pic of me with my head in a dryer!? Ha ha....better my head in an electric dryer than a gas range.
Rich
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/golittlesport/lst?.dir=/unimatic&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/golittlesport/lst%3f%26.dir=/unimatic%26.src=ph%26.view=t&.view=t
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Post# 30153-6/9/2003-23:33 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Canadian Detergents
MESSAGE: Ahh, sunlight and ABC, sunlight is big here. We use their dishwashing and dishwasher detergents. They also make laundry detergents and probably fabric softener. (we use tide for laundry though) I don't know anything about ABC, all I know is that I've heard of it, we never used it.
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Post# 30154-6/9/2003-23:47 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: 1955 Unimatic Comes to Life!
MESSAGE: Hi Guys, I would say that the appliance gods were all looking down on you guys this past weekend and smiling. What wonderful finds. Glad that you all found some neat machines. That Westinghouse top loader is really neat Greg. I have never seen a Hoover Washer and Dryer like those. Glad you had a great time. Terry
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Post# 30155-6/10/2003-01:18 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD.. Ces't magnifique (Re: Reply of Sunday/Monday's Posting:)
MESSAGE: Hey! Maniac, would you mind please to translate what you said, to be able to share it with everyone?
I could get some words possibly figured out, but I would really like to know what you said in your comment's and I'm sure that everyone else would love to know as well.
Big Teddy Bear Hugs, Steve
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Post# 30156-6/10/2003-04:53 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: 1955 Unimatic Comes to Life!
MESSAGE: Wow, I already had fun watching the pictures, I can only imagine what a great time you all had. Great catches there, some nice washers and dryers saved from the shredders again. Thanks for sharing the pictures,
Louis
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Post# 30157-6/10/2003-05:05 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: 55 Unimatic comes to life
MESSAGE: Wow - Looks like quite a fun weekend. Almost makes me want to move to the upper Midwest so as to be closer to the action. Even if the sales were dreadful, I would say that you guys pretty much hit the mother lode (or load) with those finds.
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Post# 30158-6/10/2003-06:17 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: 1955 Unimatic Comes to Life! (HOOOOOVER!)
MESSAGE: Oh Yeah!
Love your Hoover Ganski!
I can see that it is a very close relative of our Hoover. Ours had a Blue Control panel and White Knobs/Buttons, and the lint filter was more like that on the Westy than the right angle thing on your Hoover, but other than that, the same!
I have an advertisment for the Hoover 565, TOL from the early seventies, should post it, Ohh Wait a minunte, its in my choice album.
LINK: http://au.photos.yahoo.com/bc/arrrooohhh/vwp?.dir=/Choice+1971&.src=ph&.dnm=Hoover.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//au.photos.yahoo.com/bc/arrrooohhh/lst%3f%26.dir=/Choice%2b1971%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 30159-6/10/2003-06:37 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: POD.. Ces't magnifique (Re: Reply of Sunday/Monday's Posting:)
MESSAGE: here ya go saco ... I could also Translates Imperial bobs into french if you like LOL
I am from a very french canadian family. I thought it was so appropos to have a french POD
Philippe
" Very beautiful machine. But I never seen one like this. Is there someone who knows something about this machine I would appreciate it "
Love and peace
Maniac
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Post# 30160-6/10/2003-06:54 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD.. Ces't magnifique (a kinda translation)
MESSAGE: From my limited Cajun reportoire
Une tres belle machine..mais j'ais jamais vue une come ca. est-ce qui'll a quelqun qui connait quelque chose de cette machine..je vous empris.
Lamoure & Paix
One beautiful machine. I want one like that.
Love and Peace(?)
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Post# 30161-6/10/2003-06:55 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD.. Ces't magnifique (a kinda translation)
MESSAGE: oops. I couldn't translate the 3rd sentence. sorry
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Post# 30162-6/10/2003-06:56 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD.. Ces't magnifique (a kinda translation)
MESSAGE: oops. I couldn't translate the 3rd sentence. sorry
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Post# 30163-6/10/2003-07:13 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: 1955 Unimatic Comes to Life! (Hoover and Westy)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg
Your photo of the Hoover washer confirms it - the Aussie Hoovers are of Blackstone origin. When did Blackstone close up? I am wondering if the plant to manufacture those washers was shipped to Australia after Blackstone closed up shop.
That transmission, pump, the shape of the outer bowl with that angled hose connection, it's all "Aussie Hoover".
There were several revisions of that machine, in order:
-500 series - first Aussie series. Very like yours, with blue control panel, white knobs/buttons. Perf tub but spin/drains. (spin increases in speed slowly due to slippage in clutch at base of transmission.)
- 600 series - changes -> neutral drain by a giant pressure switch underneath which engages a brake on transmission outer, causing clutch to totally slip till tub is empty, then pressure switch disengages and spin starts (very unreliable system) Beige control panel with khaki insets, panel is higher around timer and lower around temp/level switches.
-700 series - what hubby had when we met, my fave of the series - plastic outer tub, improved bearing/seal, electric pump instead of belt driven pump, OOB switch deleted and clutch made softer grip so machine will always spin at least a bit even if OOB, but will spin slower if off balance.
-800 series - the rot begins - new top transmission/agitator shaft, now short shaft. (older ones, shaft and spin tube went to above water level, newer ones have short shaft - when seal wears, water leaks into trans).
-900 series - further cheapened, plastic top panel and lid, now rear-hinged.
After the 900 series, the same cabinet was retained but a whole new insides, a dreadful design based on a copy of cheap Japanese machines. A transmission with plastic gears, etc. A bad day. I believe this co-incided with Hoover Aus being taken over by Maytag, who kept Aussie Hoovers as the cheap line and had US imported Maytags, Norges and Admirals as the top lines.
Greg if you need any parts (apart from 110v electrics) let me know and I can probably get them for you. They are VERY common here, one of the most popular machines. New and used parts both easy to get.
The Westy TL is also very similar to its Aussie equivalent. The one I did up some years ago looks almost identical except it had knobs not buttons for water temp and level. It was badged "Westinghouse by Email". It now washes horse rugs for my brother-in-law.
Best Wishes
Chris.
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Post# 30164-6/10/2003-07:52 ||| mobilemaidbear (Tampa)
SUBJECT: Memories of my Aunt and Her Kenmore Rotorack DW
MESSAGE: I recently went to visit an elderly aunt of mine who lives in AL. My cousin and me were dynamic duo of trouble!! My aunt has one arm due to an accident. My cousin and I would often wait for her to do to bed and then steal the artificial arm to play with, harass the dog and cat ect. My aunt and uncle are well to do with a live in maid. They always had nothing but TOL Lady Kenmore appliances, well one night we decided to play a joke on the maid. We placed the artifical arm in upper rack of the the Lady Kennmore roto rack dishwasher avacado,rotated to the back and closed the door in preperation for the maid to load it the next morning. You should have heard the scream at 7am!!
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Post# 30165-6/10/2003-08:24 ||| Fs178 (New York)
SUBJECT: 1950-60 caloric range
MESSAGE: HELP, I am looking for information on how and what has to be done to properly connect and use this old stove. This is the situation. the stove was in my home when i bought it, hooked into a propane gas supply. I now want the stove to operate using natural gas. Once hooked up to natural gas the stove lights but does not increase flame when you turn the knobs for the burners. Does anyone out there know what has to be done to adapt this stove to natural gas operation? Please e-mail any information to fs178@mail.com. THANK YOU!!!!
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Post# 30166-6/10/2003-08:39 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: An Empty Basement
MESSAGE: Hi Chris,
You're right that Westy does has a bit of entertainment potential but the light needs to be moved from the bottom of the tub opening to the top, as soon as it gets sudsy it covers the light and it gets dark in there. Sort of like a thunderstorm!
No all the 220 volt lines have been taken out of the basement so no more Asko for Neal. Although it really doesn't matter, he's used it twice in nine months. He says its easier to just place things down the laundry chute and they get washed, dried and folded truly automatically. :)
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Post# 30167-6/10/2003-12:23 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: POD.. Ces't magnifique (Re: Reply of Sunday/Monday's Posting:)
MESSAGE: I tried running it through BabelFish. The first part "a very beautiful machine" came through, but the rest got mangled. Is there some sort of local dialect involved?
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Post# 30168-6/10/2003-12:43 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD.. Ces't magnifique (MERCI!)
MESSAGE: Thanks for properly translating it. I got the first sentence almost right at least.
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Post# 30169-6/10/2003-13:35 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: POD.. Ces't magnifique (Re: Reply of Sunday/Monday's Posting:)
MESSAGE: non, non, une foix en englais cest asser...lol. In english, Once in english is enough, now can we take about something more interesting " Vintage dishwashers " LOL Have a great day everyone.
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Post# 30170-6/10/2003-17:35 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: sactoteddybear
MESSAGE: I waited for you for a long time @ yahoo, I need info from you.
a bear in need
LINK: http://www.kevinkunsworth.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
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Post# 30171-6/10/2003-19:34 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: Flair range on E-Bay
MESSAGE: Looks really nice, never seen the smaller one before
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2328163846&category=20712
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Post# 30172-6/10/2003-19:48 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Flair range on E-Bay (and it has the rotisserie!)
MESSAGE: Wasn't there an episode in Bewitched when Samantha or Endora put Darrin in the rotisserie of their Flair?
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Post# 30173-6/10/2003-20:27 ||| JAKINS (Kissimmee, Fl.)
SUBJECT: The westy is water tight
MESSAGE: HI guys
After a long fight with the speed control I finally got it. she has all new hoses and belts. Water test was today and she passed with flying colors. next big job is paint I will hire this out. One Question for you guys that own these. Is it normal for the speed control to get so hot? I know thwt there is alot of friction in that small space I just need to know.
I am not used to refurbishing anything but vintage dishwashers, and I must say they are a lot easer than this has been. however this is still alot of fun. sorry no pics on the dryer yet however it has been converted to 110v and new wireing and all is fine.
Talk soon john
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/jakins2001/vwp?.dir=/GENERAL+ELECTRIC+DISHWASHER&.src=ph&.dnm=she+is+water+tight+and+tumbling+strong.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/jakins2001/lst%3f%26.dir=/GENERAL%2bELECTRIC%2bDISHWASHER%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 30174-6/10/2003-20:41 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: The westy is water tight (YaY John!)
MESSAGE: Great Job John!
You really worked hard on this set! It looks great!
I am sure it will pay off with lot's of fun washing!
Thanks for the pictures!
Brent
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Post# 30175-6/10/2003-23:38 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: Re: Post just left on Sandbox for those interested:
MESSAGE: Hey! Dear Club Friend's, I just Posted some info other than Appliance info on the Sandbox, that I wanted to share with those of concerned or interested and I wanted to place this Post to let those know who might be interested. It is something sent to me from a dear Friend, about an update about Same-Sex Marriages.
I didn't want to get any Noses out of place, by Posting something here that should go onto the Sandbox Site and possibly start another round of wrongful discussion's on the Classic Appliance Posting Site area.
Peace, Love and Big Teddy Bear Hug's, Steve
P.S. By the way, I've often wondered why the "Sandbox" Site wasn't named "Soapbox" instead. Can anyone let me know why, I thought that it would have been more appropriate given that it pertains to Appliances, especially Washer's and Dryer's.
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Post# 30176-6/11/2003-00:08 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: The westy is water tight
MESSAGE: Your Laundromat looks fantastic - welcome to the "Scrubbing Dome Club" and enjoy your labors, what a neat machine.
I haven't noticed any increased heat in mine although I would think a little would be somewhat normal. I read in one of the service manuals from Westinghouse that the fluid can be drained from these and replaced (with Westinghouse gear oil...probably similar to auto-tranny fluid) which could help. You might also check the belt tension, if they are too tight, it might be working too hard to turn the drum.
Best wishes, Greg
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Post# 30177-6/11/2003-00:11 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Canadian Detergents
MESSAGE: Nmaineman36 can, he's a canadian detergent freak. Really likes some of the brands.
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Post# 30178-6/11/2003-00:15 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: An Empty Basement (GE auto-dry setting)
MESSAGE: I had to do the same thing with my 1978 GE dryer with electronic dry control. Med fabrics was only used for towels. Everything else got light/less dry or just as Glenn described.
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Post# 30179-6/11/2003-00:20 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1955 Unimatic Comes to Life! (HOOOOOVER!)
MESSAGE: Thanks - the Hoover set is a fun catch. The tub of the Hoover looks remarkably similar to the Westy t/l, probably sourced from the same company.
The Hoover washer won't agitate but spins and works ok otherwise. Will have to investigate later when I have time, I have some moving around to do just to be able to get around out there let alone work on the new babies. I kept thinking that once everyone took their machines home, there would be lots of room, but there are six more for a grand total of sixteen now!
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Post# 30180-6/11/2003-00:26 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Memories of my Aunt and Her Kenmore Rotorack DW
MESSAGE: Well Phil, that doesn't surprise me in the least you were quite the little dickens when you were growing up. Cute story. Glad to see you post again. Don't be such a stranger. How's the new house coming along???
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Post# 30181-6/11/2003-00:29 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1955 Unimatic Comes to Life! (Hoover and Westy)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the rundown of Aus. Hoover history - I'm not too familiar with Blackstone's history here, I would imagine they were gone in the early 70's as were several other "classic" designs by that time. I don't have any service literature or parts info on later model Blackstones so your help will be much appreciated when I set about restoring that machine. We found that it won't agitate except for very short (maybe 10 degree) strokes, but spins and works OK otherwise. Trying to remove the agitator, we broke the cap screw off in the post so that will have to be dealt with as well. Thanks for the offer of parts help, I'll probably be needing them it looks like!
Surprisingly, the Westinghouse washer worked fine when we played with it, needs a new water valve, but other than that, it's ready for cleaning and wash-play. I doubt I'll move it downstairs as I'm totally out of room, but a good garage washer nonetheless. It does use a frightening amount of water!
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Post# 30182-6/11/2003-00:39 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Coin Operated Washers (lint bags)
MESSAGE: My roommate's brother had a Kenmore dryer that DID use some kind of bag for the lint like a vacuum cleaner. Don't know how old it was, I saw it in the 70's
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Post# 30183-6/11/2003-01:01 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Workin onthe Westies (Belt slippage during spin)
MESSAGE: The other exception is belt-drive Whirlpool/Kenmore where the belt does NOT slip during spin, the "slipping" being endured by the clutch faces on the basket drive.
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Post# 30184-6/11/2003-01:08 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Redistribute and restart the wash (Imperial Bob & Kurt)
MESSAGE: What the heck did poor Kurt to say to get that kind of response? Uncalled for.
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Post# 30185-6/11/2003-01:22 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Coin Operated Washers (Lint Bags:)
MESSAGE: Hey! Dear Club Friend's, I had a late 60s Slanted-Front Westinghouse Dryer that had a Cover-Lid on the Top to open and it revealed a Lint Bag, with a wire running around the outer side of it, that held the Bag in place. It seems to me that the Wire was Spring-Loaded to support it in the chamber and a Seal on the opening side of the Bag, which was Nylon Mesh to Seal it against the opening where the Lint went into the Bag, from the Dryer Drum. If I remember correctly, the Console was like a Backsplash and the Timer was the type that ran across a Ruler-Like Setting, that was flush on the Top of the Cabinet on the right side of the Top and it would jump back to the left to the beginning of the Cycling. It either had a turn Dial or Push-button's for the Temp Seting's, but I don't remember for sure. It might have had Automatic Cycle
Setting{s} too. The Console Background was Blue and Chrome and I believe that the Window was Square and the Drum was Similar to the 1950 Model, like my Parent's had. I don't even remember what happened to it, but I sort of remember where I bought it, not far from where I live now.
If anyone else remember's this Westinghouse Dryer Model, I would appreciate any info of year and maybe any other info.
B-T-B-H's, Steve...
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Post# 30186-6/11/2003-02:07 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: Redistribute and restart the wash (Imperial Bob & Kurt)
MESSAGE: errm oh dear, its all sorted now ;-)
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Post# 30187-6/11/2003-02:11 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Significant's TRYING to HELP with Washday (Trying to help)
MESSAGE: That was the funniest thing I've read in a long time, I was busting a gut! Read it to my roommate and he was cracking up, too.
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Post# 30188-6/11/2003-02:43 ||| Windycitybear (Chicago)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire Timer
MESSAGE: Hi does anyone know where I can have a 1:18 timer re built in the Midwest?
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Post# 30189-6/11/2003-07:31 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Timer
MESSAGE: No pun intended, but have you tried Midwest Timer Service?
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Post# 30190-6/11/2003-07:31 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: An Empty Basement (GE auto-dry setting)
MESSAGE: Hmmm.. Well I'm using a 1981 GE dryer with moisture sensing and I have to turn the autodry a little bit more than medium fabrics. The washer is a Frigemore and towels take about 40 minutes to dry. The washer is spinning correctly, I guess the heat element in the dryer is showing age.
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Post# 30191-6/11/2003-08:19 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The westy is water tight
MESSAGE: Hi John,
I'm assuming when you say speed control your talking about the "Speed Changer" Transmission. I've never actually noticed in mine how warm the unit gets, but I suspect you might be a bit low on oil. Unfortunately those vintage Westy transmissions are permenantely sealed, but you can change they oil. There should be an oil plug somewhere on the outside of the housing. I think you might be able to get more info on this oil change in the Westinghouse Front Loader repair master book.
Yes restoring a washing machine is a certainly a larger, more complicated job than a dishwasher.
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Post# 30192-6/11/2003-08:43 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: An Empty Basement (GE auto-dry setting)
MESSAGE: I've noticed that the auto/sensor setting on the Americana GE dryer is way off - most loads need to be set closer to heavy to get completely dry. Robert's dryer is a temp controlled auto dry which is usually not as accurate as the sensor models. It doesn't surprise me really, coming from the 'new and improved' Genital Electric.
As he said, time dry was good enough for 1953...
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Post# 30193-6/11/2003-09:28 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT: RE: Significant's TRYING to HELP with Washday (tragic...yet ultimately, HILARIOUS!!)
MESSAGE: Chad,
I really enjoyed your account of your sig's laundry trouble- I could relate. I had a few rough experiences when in college with both washers and dishwashers(NEVER, EVER use Palmolive in a dishwasher!!!!) You have a real gift for making a story come to life.
Take Care,
Duane
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Post# 30194-6/11/2003-13:48 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Timer
MESSAGE: Well look what I found...
LINK: http://www.m-t-s.com
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Post# 30195-6/11/2003-14:08 ||| windycitybear (Chicago)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Timer
MESSAGE: No but I will now!! :-)
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Post# 30196-6/11/2003-14:09 ||| windycitybear (Chicago)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Timer
MESSAGE: Oh wonderful, Thanks
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Post# 30197-6/11/2003-14:15 ||| windycitybear (Chicago)
SUBJECT: RE: Significant's TRYING to HELP with Washday
MESSAGE: Oh its only a washer. Forget that old pumper and pump the husband instead!
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Post# 30198-6/11/2003-15:18 ||| gewasherguy (Cabot, Arkansas)
SUBJECT: RE: Redistribute and restart the wash (Imperial Bob & Kurt)
MESSAGE: This is exactly why I no longer post here often. There are alot of interesting topics but the chance of a bitch fight starting seems to loom greatly with certain posts and certain members of this forum. To bad it cannot be more pleasant.
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Post# 30199-6/11/2003-16:07 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Redistribute and restart the wash (Imperial Bob & Kurt)
MESSAGE: I for one am delighted to see young appliance enthusiasts like Kurt here with us and I welcome his (their) posts.
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Post# 30200-6/11/2003-16:16 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Canadian Detergents
MESSAGE: Arctic Power and ABC are made by the Colgate/Palmolive Co in Ontario and are the only 2 detergents in Canada that still have Phosphate content in them (7%). Canadian laws still allow for this reduced amount. Sunlight for years has "boasted" to be phosphate free and is made here. The Tide, Gain, Cheer etc we have here are all from the U.S. and are the same formulation as you have. A few local brands abound such as VIP. We even had a detergent made on the west coast called Vancouver Only, made especially low sudsing for Vancouver's very soft water. I would say the most unique and "vintage" detergent we have would be the Arctic Power.
Eddy
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Post# 30201-6/11/2003-19:17 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Coin Operated Washers (Lint Bags:)
MESSAGE: Steve, friends of mine in Dallas had this dryer, with the ruler type indicator and the square window. Had to be from say 1958 or 1959 on to no later than 1961 or 1962 when they introduced the oval window. I was only about 5 or 6, maybe 7 at the oldest, when I got to play with this dryer. It had auto cycle, which was always used. I was barely tall enough to reach the dial at the back to turn the control and couldn't even really see any detail. I just knew where to move the needle for the auto cycle.
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Post# 30202-6/11/2003-19:36 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Significant's TRYING to HELP with Washday (tragic...yet ultimately, HILARIOUS!!)
MESSAGE: Chad, I loved the story too. If I'm EVER fortunate enough to have a sig, ground rules will be I do laundry and dishes. Might as well do it right the first time rather than having to go behind him and re-do.
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Post# 30203-6/11/2003-19:42 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Significant's TRYING to HELP with Washday
MESSAGE: WOOF!!!!
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Post# 30204-6/11/2003-19:45 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Canadian Detergents (Eddy1210)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the info. Good to see you. Have missed you. Hope you and your machines are doing well, especiallyt he Speed Queens!!!!
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Post# 30205-6/11/2003-22:21 ||| AndrewInOrlando (Winter Park, FL)
SUBJECT: RE: Significant's TRYING to HELP with Washday (Significant's Help With Laundry????)
MESSAGE:
I read this and laughed till I peed. When my ex husband used to try and help with the washing, there was usually nothing left salvageable of the clothes....let alone my Lady Kenmore. It was the only time that machine ever had to be repaired. So I can totally sympathize!! It was even worse when he tried to load the dishwasher!! Did you ever notice that there are just some people who should never be allowed near anything mechanical, especially a vintage appliance!!!
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Post# 30206-6/12/2003-02:47 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: Get Closer
MESSAGE: Hey guys, I own my own chat room on msn. this would be a great chance for you to talk and possibly meet each other, sactoteddybear has all ready made one aqaintance who lives not to far away from him. So if it works for him it can work for you, The room is called A Bears Cave, its in Lifestyles, on www.msn.com all you do is clik on the page numbers accross the page, normally page 4 then scroll down to find the room name
A Bears Cave the room has been open well over a year now. Its does have its own regular visitors, but more the merrier. So come on guys do come and visit us, the room would make a very nice addition to the club site that we all love. The room opens nightly UK TIME at 12 am, and closes till the last man leaves. So come on in guys, its a great chance to talk to the guys real time who leave the wonderfull postings. I hope to see you in there real soon
Love and big hairy hugs to all Hairybigmanuk
LINK: http://www.kevinkunsworth.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
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Post# 30207-6/12/2003-15:13 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: 57 Bendix Duomatic on ebay
MESSAGE: An for a measely $5000 no less...
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3228542425&category=1400
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Post# 30208-6/12/2003-17:23 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: 57 Bendix Duomatic on ebay
MESSAGE: And to add insult to injury, no picture either, but it is shown to be a "private auction" whatever that means.......
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Post# 30209-6/12/2003-19:39 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: 57 Bendix Duomatic on ebay
MESSAGE: A "private auction" is nothing more than an auction that masks the names of the bidders. I'm no expert, but this auction doesn't sit well with me. A new seller, no picture and way too high a starting bid. Sounds almost too good to be true. Does anyone know this person?
-Alex
(Ebay user ID: tecnopolis)
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Post# 30210-6/12/2003-20:07 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: Kurt Dixon & hairybigmanuk
MESSAGE: Please email me at the email address in my profile. I tried emailing both of you and the email link in your profiles bounced back with message user doesn't exist. Thank you. Bob
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Post# 30211-6/12/2003-20:11 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: 57 Bendix Duomatic on ebay
MESSAGE: Gee Greg, your Brenda Bendix must be worth at leawst $8000 then LOL
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Post# 30212-6/12/2003-20:24 ||| jetcirclefill (Pensacola, Fl)
SUBJECT: RE: Redistribute and restart the wash (Imperial Bob & Kurt)
MESSAGE: Did anyone see what Kurt had to say about us on Boards@vacshoppe.com ?
LINK: http://boards.vacshoppe.com/
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Post# 30213-6/12/2003-21:37 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Redistribute and restart the wash (Imperial Bob & Kurt)
MESSAGE: It sounds like she's bitter!
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Post# 30214-6/12/2003-21:41 ||| geoff (Connecticut)
SUBJECT: RE: 1955 Unimatic Comes to Life! (Agitator)
MESSAGE: Greg,
If at ALL posible if you have time or the desire, would it be possible to post a picture of what the agitator on the Westinghouse top loader looks like??? I'm very curious as to it's attributes. P.S. sorry for the delay in pictures guys, I have to wait for my friend Carl to obtain the key to his grandfathers shop so I can take a look at the suspected Easy made Westinghouse. I am waiting anxiously and will post as soon as I can get a look at it :)
Geoff
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Post# 30215-6/12/2003-23:42 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Redistribute and restart the wash (Imperial Bob & Kurt)
MESSAGE: I will explain myself then i'm done on this site. First, I had enough BS with Queen Bob. Second, I felt unconfortable about the sexual references and stories on here. "forget that pumper and pump the husband." Is there a need for that, even I didn't get that off topic. Third, a couple people have been trying to become closer to me than I am confortable with. Besides all that, is my comment not true? I truly do not care if someone is gay, I do care when they think they are any different or better than the rest of us. My opinion on some of the people on here went bad fast. So, I will still read the comments on here and look at the PODs, but I don't want to "get close" to anyone on here. (not only illegal, but very, very discusting.) I wanted to talk appliances in general, that topic changed fast. Sorry if I offended anyone (I am quite sure I offended a lot of people) my comments were not personal. I was just very unconfortable with some people's comments. I get enough sex topics at school and on TV, I don't need them here too. But don't try to change for me, I insulted a lot of you, I am sorry but you won't see me the same again. I will just clear up some misconceptions and confusion, then i'm gone.
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Post# 30216-6/12/2003-23:59 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Redistribute and restart the wash (Imperial Bob & Kurt)
MESSAGE: I second that.
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Post# 30217-6/13/2003-01:34 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1955 Unimatic Comes to Life! (Agitator)
MESSAGE: Hi Geoff - I'm happy to post more pics for you, I took four of the agitator as it's the type that has the regular/gentle combination. Under the larger agitator is a smaller one for gentle action. We didn't try the gentle agitator with clothes, but the action is very gentle even on normal speed.
Best of luck with your find, I'm anxiously awaiting news of the machine too!
Take care - Greg
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/June+2003&.src=ph&.dnm=Normal+Agitator.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/June%2b2003%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 30218-6/13/2003-02:22 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: Kurt Dixon & hairybigmanuk (email )
MESSAGE: kevinunsworth@blueyonder.co.uk
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Post# 30219-6/13/2003-02:29 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: Kurt Dixon & hairybigmanuk (checks out ok )
MESSAGE: Email address checks out ok here, tested fine.
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Post# 30220-6/13/2003-05:11 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: POD GE dishwasher on the far right of the POD
MESSAGE: Sorry all you washer guys but did anyone notice the round dishwasher in the pic ? Does anyone have a few pic's of one of these machines. I would love to get a closer look. Im still on the hunt for a impeller wash dishwasher & any info on this matter would be greatly appreciated. Michael
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Post# 30221-6/13/2003-07:11 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: BETTER & DIFFERENT
MESSAGE: A guy who takes a dead 1951 Zenith TV & restores it to perfect health, IS BETTER & DIFFERENT from most people in the world today. Anyone who rescues a classic appliance from certain death & restores it, is someone who's BETTER & DIFFERENT from most folks. YES, I'd say, generally, Vintage Appliance restoration artists ARE better & different from the general population. We're GIFTED. And Yes, a lot of us ARE GAY, and to ADULTS, that's usually not a problem. THAT'S WHY I do not associate with children under the age of 18. THEY ARE NOT ADULTS & cannot handle a little 'FUN' the way adults can. I thought the 'pump your husband' comment was the best Idea I'd heard that day.
You can't please all the people all the time, but in the long run, we'll see that being BETTER & DIFFERENT will eventually be the thing to be....not ordinary & common. Boring.
I've been better & different all my life, & I'm not gonna stop now. I'm just getting started.
Peace.
B
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Post# 30222-6/13/2003-08:15 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: Today's POD
MESSAGE: I second Mikes comments. What a cool dishwasher. The ultimate in "watching" action. Does anyone know anything about this display? Great selling tool! Much better than those square plastic Maytag displays!
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Post# 30223-6/13/2003-08:43 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD
MESSAGE: And what about that BIG woman hugging the washer? She's gotta be at least 7 ft tall
:o)
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Post# 30224-6/13/2003-08:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD GE dishwasher on the far right of the POD (Clear GE Dishwasher)
MESSAGE: Isn't that clear GE dishwasher wonderful! Boy, what I would do to put that baby into my collecton. It's essentially the late 1940's / early 1950's style GE toploading dishwasher, but a demo model. This photo belongs to Greg (Gansky), I scanned this weekend when I was in Omaha, along with a few others. I believe he said this was from an appliance trade show. Wouldn't it be wonderful if we all could "blink" back in time and go to this show. I post the other pictures during the next few days.
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Post# 30225-6/13/2003-09:05 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD GE dishwasher on the far right of the POD (Clear GE Dishwasher)
MESSAGE: This was an electrical trade show held in Kansas City, MO in 1949. There are more wonderful pics coming, I won three on ebay but was outbid on the Bendix display picture!
I should do some calling, some of those distributors are still around in the Kansas City area - you never know what might be lurking about in their warehouses!
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Post# 30226-6/13/2003-09:53 ||| gewasherguy (Cabot, Arkansas)
SUBJECT: Discontinuing Membership
MESSAGE: Due to the continuing BS and the endless rantings of ImperialBob I am going to discontinue my membership to the forum. My question...Who do I need to be in contact with to do so? An email address would be appreciated.
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Post# 30227-6/13/2003-09:55 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: POD
MESSAGE: Hmmmmmm GE appliances and do I detect water on the floor in the photo??? hhhhmmmmmmmm.
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Post# 30228-6/13/2003-10:20 ||| Radiobill1966 (Indianapolis, IN)
SUBJECT: Parts availability
MESSAGE: I've probably asked this before, but the mind wanders like a drunken monkey :-), so I'll ask anyway:
What do you guys do about spare parts, especially on the older 1950's models? Do you have to cannibalize similar models, or did some of the manufacturers have the good sense to stay with the same mechanical design for 20, 30 even 40 years?
And with those older models, do you have to pay through the nose for vintage parts?
Bill
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Post# 30229-6/13/2003-10:46 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: POD - WATER ON FLOOR
MESSAGE: That's the first thing I noticed. Something's leaking, or else maybe that dishwasher demonstrated what would happen if you ran it with the lid open, as it is shown. The man in front of the machine does seem like he's ducking out of the way quickly...
That's a clear tub GE wringer that large Marge has her hands around there, too. That'd be neat to own as well.
B
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Post# 30230-6/13/2003-11:32 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: RE: Parts availability
MESSAGE: Most of the manufactures used the same basic designs for many years.For instance the Kenmore/Whirlpool belt drives were the same from the early 1950's until about 1986. A few changes were made along the way (some for the worse) More changes were made to control and cabinet design,and of course the timer cycles,than to the mechanical design. I buy my parts from a "mom&pop" type appliance parts/repair store that has been in business since the early 1950's. The owner took over for his father a few years ago.He thinks it is cool that I restore machines,and gives me a great discount.He has different areas of his store for different brands,and had both new and used parts. He even has new parts for the 1950's Fridgidaires!Out in the back is a fenced in area that has older machines waiting for tear down,or rebuilding for resale. (later models) I am sure most citys have places like my favorite appliance place here in Fort Wayne.You just have to look for them,which is part of the fun! Rick R
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Post# 30231-6/13/2003-11:41 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - WATER ON FLOOR
MESSAGE: I'd like to have that automatic washer. Spins at 1140rpm.
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Post# 30232-6/13/2003-12:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Discontinuing Membership (Like Magic)
MESSAGE: There, I just waved my magic wand and POOF you've been discontinued, like magic.
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Post# 30233-6/13/2003-12:43 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD
MESSAGE: Jason, I think it was during this time that the Govt. was doing all the atomic testing. They should make a movie about her and let her ride around in that Fab 1961 Imperial Convert!
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Post# 30234-6/13/2003-12:57 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: This is a great and fun website!
MESSAGE: I want to let everyone know how much I enjoy this web site,and also want to thank Robert Segar for taking so much of his valuable time to create and maintain it. It is not right to see a good thing abused,and spoiled for everone else as a result of the abuse.Some people are never happy,others must feel like no one else should be happy. To those that feel that they must leave this club I say to you: "I am sincerly sorry that it did not work out for you" and "goodby" To the rest of us: "Lets have some fun,and share and learn from each other"
Rick Reader
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Post# 30235-6/13/2003-15:17 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: Violent spin emergency STOP
MESSAGE: Ok guys lets get one thing very clear, no one in this club needs to disapear off this site. Just because people voice an opinion about something or nothing, does not mean a certain someone who we all know has to take down and out strop. Fair enough if its personel ok then an appology has been made to the party or parties concerned, its been said and done now please lets all get back to what was a nice site. I for one respect you all but when it comes down to back biting nastiness and bitching, it showing a very childish streak.
So please guys no more. Thanks hairybigmanuk
Love and big hairy hugz to all
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Post# 30236-6/13/2003-16:02 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse
MESSAGE: (Betty)- I was just telling Fred and Ethel about the wonerful people who are on Applianceville Forum.
(Ethel)- Yeah their great Lucy.
(Betty)- That they are.
(Betty)- But right now for whatever reason persons seem to be hurting everyone elses feelings for a "feeling of bigness" on Applianceville and now we need a "Program Computer Stop".
Lucy)-Whats a Program Computer Stop Betty.."
(Betty)-"Just press that dial and automatically your Program Computer Laundromat will come to a safe stop like this". Clunk,Whir, Whir, Whir,Whir, Whir,Whir, whur,whur,whur,whur Whuuurrrr, Clink.
(Quiet In the Showroom)
(Lucy)-"Gee Betty" Will all of the wonderful appliances to talk about, and stories to tell I don't see how anyone would want to hang onto their blinding meanness and bad habits and inflict them on others.
(Betty)-"I can't understand either".With all these wonderful people at ClassicAppliances who are all unique and have different terms than some. Everyone should just love another toughen their skin and there wont be any hurt feelings.
(Fred)- " ApplianceVille Hurt Feelings Days"- so thats why everyone is so tense about things written at Applianceville at this very moment in time.
(Ricky)- Hey Listen, Hurt Feelings and meanness are prevelent and smarting when a person cannot say.
(Betty)- You can be SURE..That I'm Closeted.
(Ricky)- 22 years I was trying to deny that...Why diddn't anyone believe it.
(Fred)- Because people couldnt understand you as straight.
(Ricky)- See ya later Huh
(Fred)-Si Seniorita.
(Roaring and Clapping from Studio One Audience)
Allright, In all seriousness; my story was retold to you out of the fact that things were becoming entirely too serious on a previous situation that seemed pertty well close to clearing itself up.
However, some persons have gone and made it worse with me. I being my "perky peeon self" felt that we needed to laugh. I have told many persons, including my "Catholic grandparents" that same incident and never once was I ever insulted the way I was when I read "the" post on the "vacuum cleaner site".
And to think that my intention was to help ease and drop situation that would eventually work itself out amongst "FAMILY" and freinds of. I don't consider myself to have been out of line, vile OR disgusting. I never told you about my private bedroom situations, and who honey can i spin some shit that would make ya wet the bed. And yeah so the "forget the pumper, and humpty dumper" or whatever was said was a tad crude and vile; the resulting comments that were made were far worse.
So what if some of us spin a different way then what others do. Some may well spin counter-clockwise and Some spin clockwise so what. What's important is that either way all still get the wash clean no matter HOW we/they/us/them spin.
And that is what "I" was trying to get across when retelling my story. We are ALL human we ALL err and ALL should be forgiven. However some things done SHOULD NOT go without punishment. And if nothing happens as punishment there is one guy I know who will do it in time, and HE really dislikes it when other try to do his job or misinterpet his words. And he lives just above your head and a little to the left.
So now that that's set lets take it home Betty, I am 28 and gay as the 1959 Westinghouse Laundromat Sping Color gala sale and I damn happy to have a hag like Betty Furness and awesome appliance freinds to turn to. And Im glad that I can SHARE my silly story of my "significant" with all of you and will continue to do so in the future if I remember any or the situation arises.
Notice in the blind rush to become "a critic of others" and you begin to point fingers that when you do three are pointin back, give that a minor moment of thought And also too, and never forget this one. Those who felt that they are being offended well "get over it" and toughen up the skin you have. There are far worse things that can be said or happen to all; then a few yappy words and a few light slams by others.
ImeperialBob said "I get better& different all the time" I may have paraphrased but you get it....and when I found this site I became so. So thank you everyone who has been entertained or at least amused by my rantings of what my "significant" or more blantantly my HUSBAND or whatever you will even the SEVERELY muted phrase "homo-lifemate" applies here to those who are meek and mild. I just told you what had happened with OUR washer.
It's just a story...Lighten up.
Damn Canaboy you could ruin a wet dream.
Yours,
Chad
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Post# 30237-6/13/2003-17:05 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: BETTER & DIFFERENT
MESSAGE: They may be different but NOT better. Fortunatly I am not a bigot so I know that everyone is equal in rights and value. NO ONE is better than another person. A straight person is not BETTER than a gay person. A gay person is not BETTER than a straight person. They are different, that is great. Like I mentioned before, I do not care whether someone is gay or straight. And my age has absolutley nothing to do with it. I know a few 50 and 60 year old people who are so homophobic. And it is true, a lot of people my age are homophobic. But I am not, so it is obvious age has NOTHING to do with it. Bob, why is 18 the magic number? Some people aren't really adults until 30, some never become adults. And the reason that I don't want to post on here anymore is simply because I am unconfortable. Unconfortable with people that think adults will always have complete control over kids. Unconfortable with people that think sexual comments have a place on an appliance forum. (Whether the comments are gay or straight, they aren't appropriate.) People are different, people are not better than one another.
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Post# 30238-6/13/2003-17:08 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: This is a great and fun website!
MESSAGE: Contrary to what you implyed, I am almost always happy. Aside from when I have to deal with some of Bullshit Bob's comments. This is a great site, but like you said, it is getting ruined.
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Post# 30239-6/13/2003-17:14 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: Back To Our Show on the "CircleW" Network...
MESSAGE: On a lighter note,
My grandmas Lady K's had these tiny paper bags that collected lint. I'm sure of it. In fact she was so thrifty she would "attempt" to reuse them. She would also do that with her vacuum cleaners. It was under a large porcelain door and the bags looked like a vacuum cleaner bag too. Am I wrong on this?
Leave it to "Westinghouse" for inventing the trend. Since they were so in tune with their cleaners with the Westinghouse "Toss-A-Way" bags. My Convertovac has probably one of the LAST new ones in exsistence on it right now. It just so happened after our Westy dealer was taken over they diddn't re-do the shop portion. About two weeks ago they were and told me that they foun 1 Converto-Vac bag and a filter. I got them for free. And i saved the old one for when I "play" with it and attempt to clean something. Martin says it's ugly and it's kinda homely in it's own right...but then again once you've seen one...you'll never forget it. And once you've used one, you'll never want to change.
YOU can be SURE... If It's Westinghouse.
Yours
Chad
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Post# 30240-6/13/2003-17:14 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Violent spin emergency STOP
MESSAGE: That can't happen. I sure didn't see an apology in Bob's rants and raves. Besides, its too late now anyway. He has too many age old views on life and kids. Listen to this "I cannot talk to or contact anyone under the age of 18." So then someone age 17 the day before their birthday gets all of Bob's disrespect and are treated as children, then "poof" like magic, the next day they can talk to Bob like one adult to another. That is so black and white it is funny. That is a 6 year old view on the situation. There is ALWAYS grey area, Bob can't see grey, so that is why he doesn't want to talk to me LIKE ONE HUMAN BEING TO ANOTHER. Instead he treats me like a piece of garbage that needs to be thrown out. Aside from all that, like I said 5 times, I am unconfortable with some comments on here.
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Post# 30241-6/13/2003-17:21 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse
MESSAGE: Whur, clink.
Not only the comments on this site, but in emails too.
Different, not better
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Post# 30242-6/13/2003-17:50 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Back To Our Show on the "CircleW" Network... (Lint Bags)
MESSAGE: You are not wrong! I saw a 1959 or 60 Kenmore 800 or 900 at a thrift store about a year ago that had this lint collection system. Under the magic door on the machine top was a small pipe that was about the diameter of a vacuum cleaner hose end. This particular machine had a small dirt-devil vacuum bag attached to it with a rubber band. I'm sure the original replacement bags were NLA from Sears, but the vac bag seemed to work OK. It was FULL of lint, but when I plugged in the machine and ran it, the bag ballooned up. It was a curious gimmick for sure!
Including the previously mentioned Westinghouse lint collection bags, "bag" lint filters were used by other manufacturers as well. Franklin dryers in the late 50's, Philco in the mid-50's among others come to mind. These others were more of a "clean at the end of washday" type filters that were re-used, not the toss-away bags of WP/KM type. WP used a lint collection system similar to this type some years back that was good for 100 loads or so, but I'm not sure if it was a direct relative to the systems of days gone by or a new design, only saw one once at Sears on a WP branded dryer. When I was running my electric 89 Kenmore dryer in the garage this winter I made a lint bag from fine mesh (I snipped up that wedding dress I probably won't need ;-) that worked quite well without reducing airflow. There was still a lot of very fine dust that escaped which was a bit annoying, but the added heat in the winter allowed me to work out there on the coldest of days.
Cheers and happy, lint free drying - G
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Post# 30243-6/13/2003-17:54 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - WATER ON FLOOR (1140 in 1949??)
MESSAGE: The 1140 RPM GE design didn't last in production for very long - only a year or so. Can anyone confirm this? Being 1949, it may have been the newer design which spun much slower.
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Post# 30244-6/13/2003-17:55 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Back To Our Show on the "CircleW" Network... (Lint Bags)
MESSAGE: Those Whirlpool models with the 100-load filter didn't stay on the market for very long. I saw one once at Best Buy or Circuit City or some such place. Far as I know (which isn't very far), they used a reusable collection container of some ilk, not a disposable bag.
Perhaps MagicClean can provide further details. :-)
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Post# 30245-6/13/2003-17:57 ||| daveuk (Livingston)
SUBJECT: What the hell happened?
MESSAGE: Well? What the hell happened to the nice friendly atmosphere that used to be here? I haven't posted here in ages (mainly because I felt my opinions weren't particularly welcome, or indeed useful), but I still read here fairly frequently. What I don't need to see is people like ImperialBob bitching about the 'younger members' of the group.
Quite frankly, if Robert were around, I would hope that ImperialBob gets the same treatment that, say, MrBubbles got previously. Some of the people here try hard to be friendly, and it's not easy to stay friendly when your opinion is downgraded to 'useless because you're too young' - well excuse some of us for being younger and interested.
Bob, would you, at age, say, 16 care to have been told that nobody older cared for your opinion because you didn't have enough experience. I dare say you wouldn't, so why should you expect to be able to dish it out. Get a grip man. Oh, and I'm sure a public apology wouldn't go amiss - basic etiquette as I'm sure you know.
Also, to several people, this place isn't a dating agency. I'm sure you don't intend anything by some of your comments, but there are things that could be misconstrued quite easily, and have been by the looks of things. You don't need to put a link to your personal webpage in EVERY post, for example, or invite people to 'get a little closer'. That's not what we're here for. Put your link in your profile.
I'm sure I'll have offended a few people here, but quite frankly I'm beyond caring after seeing some of the crap that's been spewed out over the last week. I'll stick around for a while, but if it doesn't get any better I'll just stop reading here.
D
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Post# 30246-6/13/2003-18:01 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: centrifugal seperator
MESSAGE: I believe that's what you call the round ductwork in the rear of the dryer that causes the lint to fling out the tube and into the collection bag - a centrifugal seperator. When I used that pair of '59 Kenmores now currently found in the beltsville warehouse, that's when I learned about it...
In reality, it means hot steamy air re-entering the laundry studio, and I quickly found this to be unacceptible. I don't dig dryers that wheeze back into the room. It's a display only dryer now...
B
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Post# 30247-6/13/2003-18:28 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: What the hell happened?
MESSAGE: Like i said it would make a nice addition
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Post# 30248-6/13/2003-18:28 ||| kenwashesmonday (Haledon, NJ)
SUBJECT: RE: Violent spin emergency STOP
MESSAGE: Kurt wrote:
"I am unconfortable with some comments on here."
This feeling will either hopefully go away when you grow up, or you could grow up to be a bigot.
When/if you make your next post, please note the Frigidare Queen pictured on the reply page. She is watching you!!
Ken D.
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Post# 30249-6/13/2003-18:39 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Violent spin emergency STOP
MESSAGE: Dictionary definition of "bigot"
"One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ."
I am perfectly fine with gay people. I just don't like it when people make sexual references on an appliance site. There is nothing to justify, you know I didn't like what some people said. I don't know how that makes me intolerant of them, but okay.
Like I said, I don't care if someone is gay, but notice we are on "classic appliances" so that topic should stay off here.
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Post# 30250-6/13/2003-18:45 ||| daveuk (Livingston)
SUBJECT: RE: Violent spin emergency STOP
MESSAGE: Ken, sorry, but I think you're completely off base.
This is an appliances website, a little banter is fine, but some comments go beyond that - and if it's making some of the younger members uncomfortable then they should feel free to state that and not have their heads bitten off.
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Post# 30251-6/13/2003-19:06 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse
MESSAGE: Guys,
Obviously everything I wrote was summararily dismissed, misunderstaad or just plain ignored. I refuse to compete with any of you nor do I wish to. No one here listens to anyone and all we hear when we talk about or to each other is bladdy bladdy blah.
So I here am asking for EVERYONES apology for mentioning my "freind" and for sharing an otherwise funny moment with you all, and can have a YOU CAN BE SURE I won't say a darned thing UNLESS it's CLEAN and pure for all.
I will go back to just posting about washers and watch the big boys battle the field. I pray for you Bob you can handle them...
And on that note, I can't remember what her 59 was like because I was too young.. But I was SURE that her 1975 Lady K's had that filterbag system as mentioned...Am I crazy?
Peace
Chad
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Post# 30252-6/13/2003-19:14 ||| daveuk (Livingston)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse
MESSAGE: Chad,
You're talking about the suds story right? That's not the sort of comments I was tlaking about in my post - there was nothing inappropriate about it, plus it was relevant to other discussion... and funny :-)
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Post# 30253-6/13/2003-19:14 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse
MESSAGE: That's just it, why would I apologize when you are still trying to justify Bob's comments and your comment? It would have been funny had I not been on an appliance forum, and had been on, say, msn lifestyles. There is a time and a place for everything.
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Post# 30254-6/13/2003-19:16 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse
MESSAGE: Oh, was that Chad's comment? I didn't mind the story, I laughed also. There was no problem with the story.
But people talking about getting closer, and about pumping the husband, this is not the place for that.
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Post# 30255-6/13/2003-19:24 ||| daveuk (Livingston)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse
MESSAGE: I'm assuming thta was Chad's comment.
I agree about the others though, as I already said. I am queer, and it made me feel uneasy, so I can imagine how you feel. And this isn't the place for that.
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Post# 30256-6/13/2003-19:25 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse
MESSAGE: Uh White Flag waving...sorry guys...I thought that this whole thing was over me. I must put my head in the Westinghouse and set it to spin.
I was really NOT trying to be nasty. Yeah Im gay but Im not here to exploit or ever discuss that or to make any of YOU feel uncomfortable. I don't even know you except from here. So why would I do that. It just so happens that the situation happened to concern my "preference in person".
When I seen what was written on the other forum you must understand that I was very upset that someone could do such an about face about anyone. I diddn't understand that there was more that what met the eye being said to you. Go me for being human.
You all are great and we should erase about the last week of posts and start again.
I don't want a war with ANY of you and would like to just discuss washers. And seems like now that we are Ironing this thing out some misunderstanding are becoming clean and clear.
So am I cool with all?
Does Applianceville Survive?
Does Laverne Love Shirley ( just kidding)
Yours
Chad
Chad
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Post# 30257-6/13/2003-19:31 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: Back To Our Show on the "CircleW" Network...
MESSAGE: So can we all finally sound the all clear signal?
I hope so...because I have a question about Rinso.
Where did it go, Why Can't I find it, Where is it still sold?
Thanks chad
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Post# 30258-6/13/2003-19:39 ||| alr2903 (new orleans)
SUBJECT: RE: 1955 Unimatic Comes to Life! (Agitator/westy/gansky.)
MESSAGE: Gansky great shots thanks for sharing, Did Hotpoint also have the 2 agiatator design at one time, I thinks theirs was called a Hand wash agitator. Now, this westy would be a westinghouse made before WCI right?. last question Did WCI, just destroy the original westinghouse machine, just as they did the frigidaire. or is todays WCI a close cousin to This nice westy t/l you were kind enough to share with us.
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Post# 30259-6/13/2003-20:38 ||| andrewinorlando (Winter Park, FL)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse
MESSAGE: I really enjoyed your story and hope people will feel free to write about things that are appliance related and funny that involve their friends and family,too!! Who the hell cares if you're gay or straight. It just doesn't matter. We don't owe anyone an apology for being ourselves so long as we're not vulgar here. I'm sure no one would be up in arms if one of you guys mentioned that their "wife was using the washer and....". There are many different kinds of families out there in the world...some we choose, some we don't. Get used to it folks because we should all be proud of the families we've created...straight or gay. Anyone who is uncomfortable with that...get over it because it's all around you if you're not too blind to see it. Just be respectful of others and don't be crass or vulgar. Gay people don't have to be afraid to speak openly of their own families just like straight people; their family just happens to be composed of two men rather than a man and a woman.
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Post# 30260-6/13/2003-21:54 ||| salvoboy (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: RE: 1955 Unimatic Comes to Life! (Agitator/westy/gansky.)
MESSAGE: The Hotpoint did have two agitators. My parents still have an early eighties top of the line HP that has that feature. It actually works reasonably well.
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Post# 30261-6/13/2003-22:20 ||| jonob (New Zealand)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse (Put up or push off)
MESSAGE: I really enjoy this site and am really glad to finally find a group of like minded people who enjoy "vintage appliances". No more feeling like a weirdo for liking Washing Machines. Who gives a damm about the ocassional raw comment that might be a little bit tongue in cheek. Bring it on I say!! If you don't like them don't read them. No point in making comments about it. Good humour...even smutty..is all fun. Don't take things to heart. Lighten up!! If you don't want to be a part of this group because of the ocassional lewd comment,thats fine...your choice. Don't stay somewhere you are unhappy, and don't take another 5 days saying " I am leaving". Lets get on with the reason we are here. Lets all pump!!
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Post# 30262-6/13/2003-23:49 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse
MESSAGE: I'm sorry too, my comment was very general. First, a lot of people on here have good, funny posts that I have a good time reading. I have since changed the post on the other forum (I know that doesn't change the fact that I did it.) I have to learn to think before I say/do something. (That comes with age, I admit it:-)
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Post# 30263-6/13/2003-23:50 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse
MESSAGE: I agree, as I said, I liked his story. I mentioned before what i didn't like. I will just shut up now as many of you want.
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Post# 30264-6/13/2003-23:52 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse (Put up or push off)
MESSAGE: OMG i said I was leaving after I cleared everything up, I think I have now.
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Post# 30265-6/14/2003-00:00 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - WATER ON FLOOR (1140 in 1949??)
MESSAGE: GE made the AW6 models from 1947 thru 1950, for the 1951 line the AW6 was discontinued and the AW5 was introduced which brought the spin speed from 1140 down to 600 something.
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Post# 30266-6/14/2003-00:02 ||| alr2903 (new orleans)
SUBJECT: RE: 1955 Unimatic Comes to Life! (Agitator/westy/gansky.)
MESSAGE: Thanks for that response Salvo, hope your Parents get many more years out of their Hotpoint. I had always thought of Hotpoint as having that, i never realized Westy had that feature until Gansky shared his pictures with us..... Have a great weekend Everyone. Yeah its 12:01 am. Friday the 13th is over......
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Post# 30267-6/14/2003-00:08 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: RE: Back To Our Show on the "CircleW" Network...
MESSAGE: Hi Chad, In ref. to the Rinso,I can tell you I know my grandmother used it in the 1950's. It was in powder form,not a liquid or flakes.Gram. had a green Kenmore Royal wringer washer,not an automatic.I still have the owners manual for washing clothes for the machine,made in 1934. It talks about Rinso all though the manual.I don't think you would want to use this stuff in an automatic.Here are a few quotes from the manual. "Sprinkle Rinso on grimy spots on rompers,cuff edges,collar bands,etc.:roll them up and put the dirtiest clothes at the bottom of the tub first." "Soak for at least two hours in warm water,to give the soap a chance to work." Another reason not to use it: "Use enough Rinso to insure a 1 to 3 inch layer of suds in the machine throughout the washing operation." I can remember grandma with the big washtubs,and she rinsed all the clothes twice,plus a bluing rinse for the whites. I believe a product like Rinso,or soap flakes would spell big time suds lock,and trouble for most any automatic washer.(Maybe a G.E. Filter-Flo would use enough water to rinse all that soap scum out! LOL) My guess is that the Rinso company failed,as automatics replaced the wringer type washer. Anyone else know something more??I have wondered about Rinso for years. Thanks, Rick
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Post# 30268-6/14/2003-00:43 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse
MESSAGE: Chad, personally I'm very disappointed your resolution is this approach. I thoroughly enjoyed your story and it revealed some of what type of person and who you are, to me that's just as important, getting know the various members here. Just like Kirk's stories. I loved them too.
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Post# 30269-6/14/2003-00:49 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse
MESSAGE: Well Kurt, I take exception to your comment about people getting closer. Some of us have met at appliance conventions. We struck up friendships. We email and talk on the phone with each other. We care about each other, particularly since we have such a unique hobby. what is wrong with close friendships developing. There are several people on this site that I know and dearly love. They're like an extended family. And supported me when I was in the hospital for 3 weeks afollowing major surgery and afterwards. what's wrong with that???
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Post# 30270-6/14/2003-00:55 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse
MESSAGE: Well said and AMEN!!!!
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Post# 30271-6/14/2003-01:10 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse
MESSAGE: Absolutley nothing is wrong with close friendship. I may have taken things the wrong way. But the internet still isn't the best way to meet people, I don't know enough about you all through this forum. Plus I have heard enough horror stories about people meeting in chat rooms and such. (I don't think anyone on here is dangerous, but still, I want to be careful about "getting close.")
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Post# 30272-6/14/2003-01:34 ||| jonob (New Zealand)
SUBJECT: today POD of Bendix
MESSAGE: This is the machine my parents had when I was growing up. They had it until about 1977. Was still going strong as Dad was in the business of repairing appliances and they only replaced it as they did up the Laundry. Does any one have a manual or any other info about this machine. It brings back great memories.
cheers
jono
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Post# 30273-6/14/2003-01:46 ||| boschboy (Portland, OR)
SUBJECT: Let's just get along
MESSAGE: I seldom post, and when I do, I admit that I'm rarely right. But for the sake of our common denominator, let's just try and get along.
We're all here for the same reason. It doesn't matter WHO we are, but the fact that we all have an interest in vintage appliances...well, that makes us a group. Let's not center on our differences; let's remember what brought us here together in the first place.
I have so enjoyed the posts from every one of you. Please don't let minor differences get in the way. If not for those we'd all be the same. How interesting would it be if every post was from the same person?
Cheers to you all,
BoschBoy
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Post# 30274-6/14/2003-06:04 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Back To Our Show on the "CircleW" Network...
MESSAGE: Well, there is much more to the Rinso story than that. Rinso was made by Lever Brothers, the same company that makes today's Wisk, All, Surf (and formerly made Breeze and Silver Dust Blue). Rinso, like most washday powders was originally introduced as a soap powder - remember that heavy duty detergents were not introduced until the late 1940's. That's why the instructions in your Grandma's washer manual talks about maintaining a layer of suds. When washing with soap powder, the layer of suds indicated cleaning ability and as they diminished, you needed to add more. Synthetic detergents can clean without a lot of suds. Rinso continued into the 1950's as a soap until aorund 1954 or so. Then it split into two products - Rinso White Soap and Rinso Blue Detergent. Yes, even with the introduction of synthetic detergents, there were still people who used soap (Ivory Snow, Ivory Flakes, Duz, Instant Fels, Octagon, White King)..
Both Rinso products continued until around 1966. Then Rinso White Soap was eliminated altogether and Rinso Blue Detergent became "Sunshine Rinso". In 1969 or so, "Sunshine Rinso" became "New Rinso With Color Bleach". By 1973, the country was in an uproar over enzymes and phosphate pollution by detergents. All of the major detergent manufacturers had to scramble to find alternatives to phosphates. As a result many products were reformulated and the big three detergent manufactureres began trimming their brand offerings (Ad, Burst, Surf (which was reintroduced in 1985), Silver Dust, Brillo, Bonus to name a few). Later brand eliminations included Punch, Cold Power, Duz Soap, Duz Detergent, Instant Fels, Oxydol, Dash, Super Suds, Breeze and Drive.
The fate of Rinso however was worse than that. Lever Bros. made Rinso their "bargain brand". They never advertised the product and as they improved the formulas of other products, Rinso was left behind. It barely survived into the 90's and was even introduced as an "ultra powder" - but by then the brand had lost all of it's strength, really became a poor performer (was loaded with fillers)and was difficult to find. By 2000, the brand was eliminated from the Lever detergent line up. Lever's philosophy was that the Rinso brand, along with Lifebuoy and Lux were "grandma" brands that were identified with "old folks" and did not reflect contemporary tastes. What always struck me was that the company in effect, killed those brands themselves by not advertising or keeping the products competitive (kind of like P&G's Oxydol and ALL of the Colgate brands) so their demise became a self fulfilling prophecy. Too bad - up until it became a "bargain brand", Rinso was actually a very good product...... The only place you might find it today is perhaps in a small inner city store where stock doesn't change. I would think that by now though, the contents of a box would have solidified into a brick from several years of exposure to humidity.......
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Post# 30275-6/14/2003-06:59 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse (Put up or push off)
MESSAGE: You live in New Zealand? Cool! I have a good friend who lives near Wellington. I asked him if he'd like to join our club but he said "Macho gay kiwi rugby players don't play with washing machines, mate."
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Post# 30276-6/14/2003-07:12 ||| chachp (Little Rock, AR)
SUBJECT: RE: Let's just get along
MESSAGE: Thanks BoschBoy. I couldn't have said it better myself! I missed most of what folks are carrying on about and glad I did. By the way, I am a recent Bosch Washer/Dryer/Dishwasher convert. I love them!
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Post# 30277-6/14/2003-07:37 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse (Put up or push off)
MESSAGE: Lesto, you have a friend that plays rugby with a kiwi? Doesn't that get his shoes all messed up? Oy, and the number of kiwis you would need for a game!
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Post# 30278-6/14/2003-07:44 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - WATER ON FLOOR (1140 in 1949?? Why was AW6 Discontinued?)
MESSAGE: Robert, Greg, anyone?
Why was the AW6 discontinued? Did someone here talked about this and I missed it somewhere? I could have, since most of the post I skip these days.
Does anyone know of someone that has a AW6 model? Was it a direct drive? Would love to hear more about this model and why it was changed in 1951 when the AW5 was introduced. Was it because of defects in the AW6 that it was re-done with the AW5?
Everyone have a great weekend.
Brent
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Post# 30279-6/14/2003-07:45 ||| kenwashesmonday (Haledon, NJ)
SUBJECT: RE: Violent spin emergency STOP
MESSAGE: Kurt wrote:
"Here I am (sigh). I have had enough of internet forums. All the people on that appliance website are gay and talk about more than appliances. (I high tailed it outta there fast.)"
And he ain't gone yet!
Ken D.
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Post# 30280-6/14/2003-09:58 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - WATER ON FLOOR (1140 in 1949?? Why was AW6 Discontinued?)
MESSAGE: Hi Brent,
Check out John Lefever's AW6 in the GE wing of the museum, its the only AW6 left we know of in existance in the world. An AW6 is high up on my most wanted list, just below the Apex. You didn't see it at the Washington Convention last summer because its in his West Virginia house. It was a direct drive tranny with the motor sealed completely in oil, very similar to a refrigerator compressor. It shifts from wash to spin by filling a rubber bellows with tranny oil which lifts the entire mechanism into the spin position. I found a working tranny for the machine and its a monster, its over 100lbs, its in storage now, but I snap a picture of it sometime.
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Post# 30281-6/14/2003-12:29 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - WATER ON FLOOR (AW6 vs. Unimatic)
MESSAGE: Which one you think was more reliable? The Unimatic or the GE AW6?
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Post# 30282-6/14/2003-12:42 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: AW6
MESSAGE: Does anyone have pix or drawing of the "all in one" motor/trans. It sounds interesting. I'm not sure I understand how the tub was raised to effect the spin.
Thanks,
Tom
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Post# 30283-6/14/2003-18:51 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse
MESSAGE: Everyone,
I consider as of this moment the matter closed. I think that there was alot of miscommunication and misunderstanding and that caused alot of unnessesary posts/rantings. I for one diddn't happen to remember that at one point up until the age of 22 I was so embedded in straightsville and scared of my own exsistence that I would have attacked ANYONE who made a reference about anything gay.
I give Kudos to Kurt for being "upfront" with us on his feelings. We ALL need to be considerate of others and their attributes that make them a perfect fit into the club Applianceville.
I thought long and hard last night after leaving work about my comments about NOT being me and "You can be SURE"...That's NOT happenin". I will be me and give you the "upfront" story when needed and not "hide" who I am.
In fact I wore my brand new t-shirt to "Michigan PrideDay" today with my "significant". Know what that shirt has on it?
On the Front is a BIG blue Circle with a HUGE W and underslash and under that is a pic of the 1959 PC Laundromats in "Tit-e pink, with chrome stenciled trim". On the back on the Shoulderblade area is a picture of Ms. Furness and under it in Quotations it say's...
You Can be SURE If It's Westinghouse. In bright rainbow colors.
I my freinds was an Staring attraction ALL day. I was stopped about 20 times though by people HAVING to tell me that my shirt was "SO COOL"; asking me WHERE I got it and WHERE they could buy one. In fact when I was close to the performing stage where acts were singing the DJQueen recognized my shirt and said the phrase OUT LOUD on the HUGE PA System.
OH MY..whaddoes that guys shirt say...YOU...can be SURE.. if it's Westing...house...
The hair on my neck stood up.
Then he says oh my god im 50 and I can remember that from TV. Oh my HONEY come up here...WHERE did you get that shirt. My grammy has a Westinghouse "she lives in Califirnia" get it... "West- House" I was like yeah ha ha...HONEY come up here and say HI to everyone... so I did. Then he told the audience that Betty was hot and he wished he was that good looking in the AM.
Then as I was walking back offstage...he said to everyone yes yes darlings we'll be getting back to the music in a minute calm down calm down...Hey I wanna remind you that I'm the DJ and "You can be SURE..You'll Hear Music".
It just goes to show that sometimes something old and not so common anymore can make the world still spin. I thought I was gonna faint onstage. But I had a freakin blast. And most funny I heard the darn phrase over the PA with different words added like 10 more times until I left.
So no I will not change but as of this post,I will keep things about appliances. So therefore all should be happy and get on with stuff... I have!
And remember what Betty Had Em' sayin.....
YOU can be SURE...If It's Westinghouse!
I had people saying it back to me after that like a hundered times...
Love to All
Chad
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Post# 30284-6/14/2003-18:59 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: Back To Our Show on the "CircleW" Network...
MESSAGE: Everyone,
Thank you for the very informative info on Rinso. Yeah I can remember the one time I used it in my 1967 Lady kenmores it gunked up the dispenser. I was pissed but it cleaned reasonably well. Yeah you could get a box towards the end for like $.99 at the dollar stores. I just never bought any. Today in my Westinghouse I use Gain "fresh-Wash" with the subsequent Gain Fabric Softner. I love that stuff. I ALWAYS get told that I smell good.
But in the 1-18's when the get used I use only Tide and Cheer because I have one ad with the 1-18 with Tide and one with Cheer. Im dumb and smarmy yes...but Oh well.
Thanks again for the info.
Chad
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Post# 30285-6/14/2003-20:53 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse
MESSAGE: That was completely cool. You shared washer enthusiasm with a big crowd of people. People look at me funny when I go to Best Buy and play with the machines (OH those LG's WITH PEDASTALS!). Everyone dug you and your shirt. Mega cool.
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Post# 30286-6/14/2003-20:54 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse
MESSAGE: That was completely cool. You shared washer enthusiasm with a big crowd of people. People look at me funny when I go to Best Buy and play with the machines (OH those LG's WITH PEDASTALS!). Everyone dug you and your shirt. Mega cool.
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Post# 30287-6/14/2003-21:02 ||| Pulsator (826 Vesper ,Ann Arbor, Michigan 48103)
SUBJECT: Who is the adult here?
MESSAGE: I have had it! I am so tired of hearing you guys fight! What ever happened to friendship? I can't beleive that I was dumb enough to join this club! I am not going back to this site for at least one month, if you wish to reach me, use my e-mail. GOOD BYE!
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Post# 30288-6/14/2003-21:06 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: RE: Who is the adult here?
MESSAGE: BYE
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Post# 30289-6/14/2003-21:06 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse (You can be sure . . . )
MESSAGE: Very kewl!
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Post# 30290-6/14/2003-21:29 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - WATER ON FLOOR (1140 in 1949?? Why was AW6 Discontinued? Thanks Robert!)
MESSAGE: Robert,
Thanks so much for the detailed description.
Thant sounds like such a cool machine! I bet is would be wonderful to watch and hear!
I remember seeing that washer at his house in the pictures, but I never put the two together that it was an AW6 Model.
Is it running by the way?
Hope you are having a great weekend! Are you packing?
Brent
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Post# 30291-6/14/2003-21:31 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse (Jason, Your Best Buy has LG's?)
MESSAGE: Jason,
That is wild that your best by in New Orleans carry LG's.
The only place that has them here is HHGreg.
I hope best buy starts to carry them here. Then there would be some pricing wars.
Brent
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Post# 30292-6/14/2003-21:32 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - WATER ON FLOOR (AW6 vs. Unimatic)
MESSAGE: Hard to say we've found a lot more Unimatics than AW6's, but the AW6 was only made for 3 years and the Domestic Unimatic was made for 11 years so it only make sense that we would find more Uni's.
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Post# 30293-6/14/2003-21:34 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: AW6 (AW6 Tranny Parts Detail)
MESSAGE: Good thing you asked me this today Tom, because I'm packing up the washer library tonight. But in my sorting I found this for you...
LINK: http://classicappliances.com/TEMP/AW6.jpg
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Post# 30294-6/14/2003-21:36 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse (You can be sure I want one)
MESSAGE: OK Chad, I must know did you make that shirt yourself or did you find it somewhere? I would just love to get one.
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Post# 30295-6/14/2003-21:50 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: AW6 (AW6 Tranny Parts Detail - Transmission looks complicated!)
MESSAGE: Robert,
Thanks for getting me to the GE section. I never did see that machine. That is a great looking machine.
Did it fill in the outer tub? I could not tell how it would fill the inner tub where the clothes are. On the right there is a little flue pointing up. Was that where it would pump the water onto the clothes and tub.
That transmission looks so complicated. Well to me anyway.
I would love to hear where John found this one. Do you know? I bet that he could not believe his eyes when he saw it! That is too cool.
Thanks for taking the time to post all of this.
Brent
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Post# 30296-6/14/2003-21:55 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: AW6 (I must stop reading and pack)
MESSAGE: Now I found this about the AW6 washer too. Of course it takes me double the time to pack things when I keep finding such fun and interesting things to stop and read, not to mention scan, before I put them into a box.
LINK: http://classicappliances.com/TEMP/AW6a.jpg
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Post# 30297-6/14/2003-22:06 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: AW6 (Robert you da Man!)
MESSAGE: Robert,
Thanks once again for posting this!
That was the best reading that I have had in a long time.
That is such an interesting machine! If you only answer one of my questioins, answer this one.....Do you know if it paused between the cycles, or did it kinda do like the Frigidare's and go right into it without skipping a beat?
Go Pack!
Brent
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Post# 30298-6/14/2003-22:23 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: Can I share a story with you.
MESSAGE: When I was 18 and started working in my first permanent job after leaving school I had a much older, very camp behaving man take quite an interest in me. After being in school for my whole life and not being exposed to that kind of person very often, I was freaked out unbelieveably. I even considered leaving the job but I didnt.
Does that make me homophobic? No! I have worked with other gay men who are real gentlemen and well liked by others but when you have a real loud queen loudly telling all your collegues that you barely know what he would like to do to you that is really scary.
Besides the gay stuff some of the comments directed Kurts way have been so mean. Here is someone with an obvious interest in appliances which is why we are here in the first place. He obviously has been keen to get his hands dirty servising appliances and helping other people in his family. So what if he is young, someone obviously is willing to learn and I am sick of older people that I know of personally, holding young people back from their ambitions because they seem to think that kids are too young to know what they want. These same adults then turn around and moan about young people today have no drive which seems so hypocritical.
Also due caution is needed on the internet and we have all heard about people who have been stalked, this happened to a friend of mine and I am extremely careful how much information I give out about myself on the internet. Kurt has complained about emails that obviously make him uncomfortable. We should respect that. Teenagers are continously warned these days to be careful on the internet.
I am so dissappointed. When I was fifteen I would love to have known all the things about washing machines I do know. If I recieved such a welcome I think I too whould of been really upset, and who knows how I would of reacted.
Lets take someone elses shoes and walk around in them for a mile or too.
Thats just my two cents worth.
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Post# 30299-6/14/2003-22:23 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: AW6 (AW6 Tranny Parts Detail)
MESSAGE: Unimatic, thanks! Very interesting design.
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Post# 30300-6/14/2003-23:09 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Can I share a story with you. (THIS IS ENOUGH! PLEASE!!!!)
MESSAGE: Hello All!
This is an APPLIANCE CLUB!
Allthough some of your stories are interesting, I am sick of hearing about them! Can you start your own club and all go there to do your therapy? I don't come to this club to hear about any of this personal life stuff. I understand that most of you are trying to help, but you are just keeping this crap going! Crap in - IT IS TOTALLY OFF BASE WITH THE CONVERSATION THAT NEEDS TO BE GOING ON HERE!
This club cost money! Your Unrelated Postings about personal stuff cost Robert MONEY!
What will happen is that you will get a reputation here of only posting off topic post. You will then be the one that get's upset when your appliance questions does not get answered because you usually post personal stuff about your life, that has nothing to do with this club, and your post don't get read.
I dont't want big teddy bear hugs from any of you. I don't want to know about your personal life here, I have enough crap going on in my own life! I don't want to know about anyone's sex life here!
BOTTOM LINE!!!! I COME HERE TO ESCAPE! LIKE I DID AS A CHILD INTO THE WORLD OF APPLIANCES! DON'T RUIN THAT FOR ME!
I could care less if I offened any of you here! If I did, then it was meant to be, and get out of my life! Yea, that's right, this club is part of my life, and you are messing with it!!!!
Please!!!!
Brent
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Post# 30301-6/14/2003-23:39 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Enough Already
MESSAGE: OK Guys, I think we've all had enough of this particular topic, this will be the FINAL WORD on this topic and its now closed. We have had heated conversations in the past and even lost some members because of this topic. So here's the deal. Sexual talk and innuendos have no place here, be it gay straight or something in-between. Now talking about your gay life-partner and how he or she can't use a washer to save their life is wonderful and should be encouraged, that of course has absolutely nothing to do with sex. Telling us how much you love your partner is because he helped you move a 355lb Whirlpool Combo into the house is also fabulous and we want to hear it, that too doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that it has nothing to do with sex. Now if someone has a problem with the simple fact that the person telling the story is gay, well then they have three choices, they can go away and never come back, they can simply get over it, or of course they can come-out.
NOW HERE THIS, anyone who wants to continue this conversation may do so in the SANDBOX where 99% of us who have had enough can ignore it. Any post I see about topic again will be deleted as soon as I find it.
Topic officially ended in Applianceville proper.
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Post# 30302-6/14/2003-23:46 ||| windycitybear (Chicago)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse (Jason, Your Best Buy has LG's?)
MESSAGE: LGs here in Chicago at Best Buy also. They are a Beautiful appliance. Soon I will have mine!
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Post# 30303-6/14/2003-23:54 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: AW6 (It Morphs Between Wash and Spin)
MESSAGE: Hi Brent,
The AW6 GE does not pause between the wash and the spin but its not as quick and the change-over is in the Unimatic. As the AW6's oil bellows fills up the agaitation slowly slows to a stop at the same time the tub slowly beings to turn. Sort of like morphing between wash and spin. Its very, very cool!
Back to packing.
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Post# 30304-6/14/2003-23:59 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: AW6 (It Morphs Between Wash and Spin! How cool!)
MESSAGE: Well,
I thought that I lived to see the first Frigidaires run!
I guess I did not!
I will now have lived when I see this GE AW6 run!
I just love it! It was as though Frigidaire and GE were trying to out-do each other with the inventions at this time! Amazing!
Thanks Robert!!
Brent
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Post# 30305-6/15/2003-00:00 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse (Jason, Your Best Buy has LG's? Humm.....)
MESSAGE: Well you are so lucky!
I am sure that Best Buy will start to carry them here.
We will see.
I guess anymore comments on this New machine will need to be posted in the Sandbox! On that note however, please do keep up posted in the Sandbox about your new LG, and what you think of it. Many of us are dying to know.
Congrats!
Brent
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Post# 30306-6/15/2003-06:30 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: propeler aggitation
MESSAGE: Hi guys can anyone point me in the right direction as to where I can see pics of propeler aggitator washers, I have seen front loaders, top loaders, twintubs, all with some form of center post aggitator and drum washers. I have not seen any washers with propeler or rotar washers( one example is rolls razor) Any suggestions where I can find some pics on the net of this type and style of machine.
Love and big hairy hugs to all
LINK: http://www.kevinkunsworth.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
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Post# 30307-6/15/2003-07:14 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse (Jason, Your Best Buy has LG's?)
MESSAGE: These are new machines so I should be throwing sand but..
They are SOOOO Beautiful! They're what I can "ARTFUL". Round knobs, symmetrical buttons, and you can't ignore that BIG window! It's the laundry channel in HD and stereo (the dryer has a window too).
I'm trying to decide... a Volkswagen New Beetle or a set of LG's.
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Post# 30308-6/15/2003-07:15 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: AW6 (It Morphs Between Wash and Spin)
MESSAGE: Another Rube Goldberg washer in action. I'd love to see that work!
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Post# 30309-6/15/2003-07:15 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: AW6 (It Morphs Between Wash and Spin)
MESSAGE: Another Rube Goldberg washer in action. I'd love to see that work!
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Post# 30310-6/15/2003-07:31 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Todays POD - Ozzy Osborne and Harriet
MESSAGE: Harriet: "OZZY! Look what came in our new Hotpoint automatic"
Ozzy: "uhh.. uhh.. whass a automa'ic.. duhhh.."
LOL couldn't resist.
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Post# 30311-6/15/2003-07:34 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse (Jason, Your Best Buy has LG's?)
MESSAGE: Go for the LG's - the new Beetles have a dreadful repair record......
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Post# 30312-6/15/2003-07:47 ||| syndets2000 (Nanjemoy, Md)
SUBJECT: Fridgidaire New Generation J-line DW
MESSAGE: Hi everyone- I am looking for a "new"....J line generation Fridgidaire DW, the ones that were redesigned, with the washarm in the bottem, probably starting in 1964 or 1965-
Any color, or model will do.Years preferred would be 1964-1970 something. I have come across the old service manual on these, & It looks rather unique, though the top rack looks like it wouldn't hold much...Thanks! Syndets 2000 (Robert) PS- Has anyone come across a source for Westinghouse Doorboots, for the 1948-1958 slant front models?
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Post# 30313-6/15/2003-08:58 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: AW6 (I must stop reading and pack)
MESSAGE: Hi Robert,
Thanks HEAPS for posting this info. After the diagram I was still perplexed, with the text too I more or less get it.
With that fast spin and the oil cooling that allows it to use an economical little 1/4 horsepower motor, that technology could be a new energy saver model in 2003. I Wish...
Best Wishes & Happy Packing.
Chris.
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Post# 30314-6/15/2003-09:02 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Todays POD - Ozzy Osborne and Harriet
MESSAGE: The 55 Hotpoint is, in my opinion, the most interesting model they ever made. It's the first machine I was ever exposed to as a child.
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Post# 30315-6/15/2003-09:47 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Todays POD - Ozzy Osborne and Harriet (Ozzy Osborne and Harriet)
MESSAGE: Hi Les
The 55 Hotpoint was also the first washer I was exposed to watching - I will try to copy a pic of the model we had.
I have been off the computer for a few days - so much reading to catch up with the postings.
Peter
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/peteski50/vwp?.dir=/appliances2&.dnm=55+Hotpoint.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 30316-6/15/2003-09:59 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Todays POD - Ozzy Osborne and Harriet (Ozzy Osborne and Harriet)
MESSAGE: Let me try again!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/peteski50/vwp?.dir=/appliances2&.src=ph&.dnm=55+Hotpoint.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/peteski50/lst%3f%26.dir=/appliances2%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 30317-6/15/2003-10:15 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Todays POD - Ozzy Osborne and Harriet (Ozzy Osborne and Harriet)
MESSAGE: Cool, Peter. I haven't seen one with the removable lid before.
My mom's had the lid like Harriet's.
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Post# 30318-6/15/2003-11:04 ||| bsmntfullosuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: Shooting appliances!
MESSAGE: Lets face it, not all appliances are worth saving from the scrap heap and crusher. What to do with a 10-year-old White Westinghouse P.O.S. at the end of its useful life? Take it out back and shoot it!
The Original World Famous Home Appliance Shooting Page
http://www.singsingsing.com/has.html
The brave little toaster gets blown away!
http://www.singsingsing.com/has3/deadtoaster.jpg
Old Kitchenaid dishwashers are not that bulletproof
http://www.singsingsing.com/has4/dishwasher4.jpg
Real-format video
http://www.singsingsing.com/has4/dishwasher.rm
Washer brutally attacked (shocking photo, don't click if this will make you cry!)
http://www.singsingsing.com/has5/danbeatswasher.jpg
LINK: http://www.singsingsing.com/has.html
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Post# 30319-6/15/2003-11:15 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Todays POD - Ozzy Osborne and Harriet (They Still Exist!)
MESSAGE: I found one of these Hotpoint washers 2 years ago at a sale here in Omaha. It had been ravaged by it's owner trying to repair it, when he failed they bought a Maytag. Luckily, they pushed the Hotpoint into a corner by the furnace where I found it at their estate sale and rescued it from the inevitable fate of unwanted appliances - the dreaded KRUSHER!
I sent this machine home with Robert who will lovingly restore it and give it a good home once settled in the new house. Jimmy (filterflo) also found one of these machines a few months ago with the matching condenser dryer which I believe he has working in his collection.
Here are some pics of the one I found.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/wshrboy/lst?.dir=/Estate+Sale+Finds+9-08-01&.view=t
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Post# 30320-6/15/2003-13:03 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse (Picking Up LG's Today)
MESSAGE: My good friends Don and Micheal bought a TOL set of these this morning at Best Buy and we're picking them up today around 5 PM, I'll post pictures when we get home via the Sandbox.
Looks like I'll have the Asko set back again, where to put them?!
Greg
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Post# 30321-6/15/2003-13:17 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: Wash Water Temps
MESSAGE: Hi Everyone,
I've noticed that many early automatics didn't have a cold water wash option. I'm guessing that that's because the early detergents (and the soaps that were still in use back then) didn't dissolve in cold water and also because cold water was thought not to clean as well.
I've also noticed that some machines had a "medium" wash water setting. I seem to recall reading somewhere (Consumer Reports?) that a "medium" wash water temp. was between warm and hot. I don't get that one!?! Why would you want to wash in water that was warmer than warm but colder than hot?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Mike
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Post# 30322-6/15/2003-13:27 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse (WOW!)
MESSAGE: I want a full report, pics and videos (if you can).
"Buy a New Beetle now and get a free LG washer/dryer set at Best Buy..."
wouldn't that be cool.
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Post# 30323-6/15/2003-15:37 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Wash Water Temps
MESSAGE: They were probably just another feature used to gain sales of a certain washer. (Lady kenmores had that Hot, medium, warm, cool, cold water temps.)
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Post# 30324-6/15/2003-16:29 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: AW6 (AW6 Tranny Parts Detail (Got a Filter-Flo?))
MESSAGE: Nice pictures of the transmission... Do you have similar specs for a 1986 belt-drive GE Filter-Flo? Also, I would like to see about getting a new control panel because mine has paint spots I can't get off of it.
MrCoffee
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Post# 30325-6/15/2003-17:08 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: very angry
MESSAGE: In responce to an email I have recieved from washer nut dave ashley ----- ok what ever if thats how all of you realy feel, i do appologise then. With
all of the unrest and unease in this site i feel that i am being got at for
just being me, then if i can not be allowed to be me then ok you wont see me
again period
----- Original Message -----
eved from washernut
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Post# 30326-6/15/2003-17:09 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Todays POD - Ozzy Osborne and Harriet (They Still Exist!)
MESSAGE: Gansky, great pix! What is the function of the "red upended cup thingy" on the agitator?
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Post# 30327-6/15/2003-17:10 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: i am outta here
MESSAGE: i am outta here guys you wont see me again
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Post# 30328-6/15/2003-17:11 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: RE: i am outta here
MESSAGE: BYE
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Post# 30329-6/15/2003-17:12 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: RE: i am outta here
MESSAGE: BYE-BYE
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Post# 30330-6/15/2003-17:37 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Todays POD - Ozzy Osborne and Harriet (Ozzy Osborne and Harriet)
MESSAGE: Les the pic of the day is the 56 model
the 55 was somewhat different
The one with the removeable lid was only made for one year and it was considered the econmomy model. I was born in 54 and my parents bought it right afterwards. We had the washer until 61. I always watched the machine religiously. I could never stop watching. (addiction from birth) I will always remember it with fond memories. I never thought their was anything so fantistic until of cource I saw a Frigidaire wash
Peter
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Post# 30331-6/15/2003-17:46 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Todays POD - Ozzy Osborne and Harriet (They Still Exist!)
MESSAGE: Hi Combo
That red thing is the lint filter
Not a good filter
The model we had didn't have the filter
Peter
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Post# 30332-6/15/2003-18:05 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Todays POD - Ozzy Osborne and Harriet (They Still Exist!)
MESSAGE: What great pics! Thanks so much for posting them. I hope you and Robert get him up and running. It's a beautiful machine.
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Post# 30333-6/15/2003-18:08 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Todays POD - Ozzy Osborne and Harriet (Ozzy Osborne and Harriet)
MESSAGE: Thanks. The 56 & 55 are almost identical. I remember my mom's 55 had a chrome handle on the lid whereas the one Gansky found does not.
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Post# 30334-6/15/2003-18:14 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Todays POD - Ozzy Osborne and Harriet (They Still Exist!)
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg for posting
I do remember when you got the machine but kept forgetting to ask what you did with it. I would love to find the one I had (the model with the removeable lid) that would be a real rare find.
Peter
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Post# 30335-6/15/2003-18:15 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Todays POD - Ozzy Osborne and Harriet (Ozzy Osborne and Harriet)
MESSAGE: Les how long did yours last? They weren't long lasting washers!
Peter
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Post# 30336-6/15/2003-18:21 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: very angry (It's about the appliances.)
MESSAGE: Like others have stated. This site is about the repair, and preservation of vintage appliances. Personal discussions are not necessary, and relatively unimportant in a forum like this.
As for me. I want to restore older equipment to good use when others no longer want them. This saves land fill space, and enables people of lesser means to have equipment that they other-wise cannot afford. I really do hope to be of service to those whom are less fortunate. With our increasing unemployment rate, and declining economy, there is value in saving resources!
Ok, so let's look into what I do. I once rescued a PC out of a scrap pile, and most of its components. I also acquired two monitors from that same pile. I thoroughly cleaned, and combined parts to make up a complete machine with a sound card, modem, and all the software necessary to make it completely viable and useful. The purchaser got essentially a new machine for $150.00 that will last a good couple years. Not only that, but they actually saved over $300.00 from the cost of a new PC!
My next ambition is to find some older washing machines that are still servicable, clean them out and restore them. I have already accomplished this with two of them! Then, sell them for a low price to someone who needs one yet can't afford to go to Best Buy. The classic machine such as the Filter-Flo GE has many years of good use left, and are still findable with places to get parts. They can be a complete joy to someone who would otherwise have to endure the humility of going to a public laundramat, or be at the mercy of their land lord (a good restored portable comes to mind here!).
The appliance hobby has definite value in today's uncertain economic situation, when each and every penny spent must be carefully monitored. Enjoy the classics, but get the big picture. There are people out there whom we can really help live a fuller life with less means. I strongly hope to put my obsessions to good service to others!
MrCoffee
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Post# 30337-6/15/2003-18:34 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Todays POD - Ozzy Osborne and Harriet (They Still Exist!)
MESSAGE: Peteski,
Burp-Up? (the filter I mean.)
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Post# 30338-6/15/2003-19:34 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Todays POD - Ozzy Osborne and Harriet (They Still Exist!)
MESSAGE: Hi Combo
It was not a burp up filter - it had a screen within the red cylinder. It actually split into 2 pieces. The inner piece was actually the filter screen.
Peter
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Post# 30339-6/15/2003-20:20 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse
MESSAGE: Chad, all I can say about your story is COOL, WOOF, & DAYAM!!!
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Post# 30340-6/15/2003-20:26 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse (You can be sure I want one)
MESSAGE: Chad, I'd love to have one too, but maybe not with so much pink LOL.
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Post# 30341-6/15/2003-20:56 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: AW6 (It Morphs Between Wash and Spin! How cool!)
MESSAGE: This was the only automatic washer my paternal grandmother ever owned (my mom's mother never had any type of washer). I vaguely remember her having this washer. I mean, the front control panel is almost identical, if not identical in appearance between the aw6 and the aw5 (it's successor??) I do remember it having the 4 knobs on the front. I remember vaguely seeing the GE logo on the front. In fact, because grandma liked her GE so much, that's why we got a GE when we had to get rid of the Bendix because of me always opening it during its cycle when I was a toddler. It was located out in her garage which was far behind the house and was on somewhat a very steep driveway incline. NEVER got to see it runnning. Grandma only washed on mondays. I don't even recall ever seeing wash out on the line, but I do remember her having clotheslines. But I do think it was an AW6 because in one of my discussions of Frigidaires with my dad years ago, I remember him making a comment that Grandma's washer spun as fast as the Frigidaire, but didn't put the clothes in a rope like the Frigidaire did. And Brent and Jason, BTW, this grandmother was from Louisiana.
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Post# 30342-6/15/2003-20:59 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse (Jason, Your Best Buy has LG's?)
MESSAGE: Jason, you gotta keep your pick-up. You can't haul appliances around in a New Beetle!!!!!
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Post# 30343-6/15/2003-21:03 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Fridgidaire New Generation J-line DW
MESSAGE: Robert, there was one of these, albeit probably about 1966 or 1967, recently on Ebay. And I beg to differ with you, the top rack held a ton of stuff if you loaded it like it was intended. The bottom rack too. Although these Frigidaire's didin't clean as well as a corresponding GE or Whirlpool, they held a ton of dishes.
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Post# 30344-6/15/2003-21:10 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Wash Water Temps
MESSAGE: Well, frog-eyed Kenmores, before the first LK, had a medium water temp. The Philco washer just a few days ago on the POD had a Medium water temp too. Whirlpool did too. If anyone else can remember other brands other than LKs or the Philco having a medium water temp, CHIME IN please.
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Post# 30345-6/15/2003-23:02 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Wash Water Temps
MESSAGE: I knew about Philcos. I didn't know about Whirlpool or LK, but I read SOMEWHERE that some AMC made Kelvinators had a "medium" wash temp. setting too.
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Post# 30346-6/16/2003-00:10 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Wash Water Temps
MESSAGE: a few of the top of the line Westinghouses in the late 50s had the "medium" and "cool" tempertaure offerings also
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Post# 30347-6/16/2003-00:49 ||| windycitybear (Chicago)
SUBJECT: Hey why is there no Chat Room here?
MESSAGE: It would be nice to have a real time chat room here or a link to one from this room.
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Post# 30348-6/16/2003-06:39 ||| Smumose (Australia)
SUBJECT: 1950s refrigerator HMV
MESSAGE: My parents have a refrigerator purchased in about 1957. It is still in as new condition and works like the day they bought it. It has never needed a repair. I have told them that someone will want to buy it. But I don't know the price to fix on it. If anyone has any ideas I would be very pleased.
They have been made offers by people who sell second hand goods professionally. But all their offers sounded like opportunistic banter to me.
Please help me to get my parents a fair deal.
Thanks alot.
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Post# 30349-6/16/2003-07:46 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse (Jason, Your Best Buy has LG's?)
MESSAGE: Yeah but pickups drink gas like crazy. I want a fun machine so I can cruise the country and ride roller coasters and not use any gas. That's right, the Beetle also comes in DIESEL that makes 50mpg. My dad has a truck and I can use it anytime if I want to bring home a machine. :-)
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Post# 30350-6/16/2003-07:50 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Hey why is there no Chat Room here?
MESSAGE: We had one but people started being mean :-(
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Post# 30351-6/16/2003-08:10 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: 1950s refrigerator HMV
MESSAGE: Hi Smumose.
I know an elderly lady who also has a 1950's round-shouldered HMV fridge. They must have been good.
The best place to get an idea is to look in the Trading Post. You could buy a copy or look at their website. (link below)
I hope you get a fair price but be aware these old fridges were very solidly built and there are still lots of them around, so it isn't likely to have great value. If it has a moderate sized freezer inside it will be worth more than if it has just an ice cube tray inside or a really tiny freezer box. (If it is still practical to use it will have more appeal and thus more value than if it was cute but not very useful.)
You could also contact antique auction houses such as Joels.
Best Wishes
Chris.
LINK: http://www.tradingpost.com.au/
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Post# 30352-6/16/2003-08:25 ||| Stretch5169 (Illinois)
SUBJECT: Wringer Washing Machines
MESSAGE: Does anyone know where I might find a wringer washing machine?
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Post# 30353-6/16/2003-08:35 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Todays POD - Ozzy Osborne and Harriet (Ozzy Osborne and Harriet)
MESSAGE: My mom got hers in 55. I was born five years later and the tranny died around 64. She replaced it with another Hotpoint, a model that had Hotpoint's burpulator lint filter (which was constanly getting clogged up with lint). The 64 was still going strong when my parents sold that house and left it for the new owners. We then moved into my late Great Aunt's house where we used her 59 GE filter flo for several years until the tranny went out in it. It would no longer spin.
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Post# 30354-6/16/2003-08:39 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: "heartwarming"consumer correspondence
MESSAGE: The attached might be of interest. No agenda here, just thought the story would make a nice "read". Insert any brand name. Anyway, we are not the only folks with emotional ties to their appliances!
"Seldom do people take the time to write a note of appreciation. After 20 years of doing laundry, services provided by my now very old Whirlpool appliances, I felt I owed you a note of thanks.
Today I retired my well used, trusty Whirlpool washer and dryer. I did this not because they no longer did the job, in fact, they work very well. They just looked terrible due to the many years of use, being dropped down the driveway while moving, and banged into by every riding toy my son could steer in their direction.
The dryer saved my sanity more times than I can count as when my son was a baby we put him in his car seat and placed him on top of the running dryer to help calm him during bouts of painful colic. It worked like magic! My washer and dryer, at times my best friends, have never had a service man lay a hand on them. There was never a need as nothing ever went wrong with them. Not once in 20 years! Amazing! How did you do it?
Well, all good things do indeed come to an end and I am now the proud mother..oops, I mean owner of a new, shiny, matching set of appliances. The crying infant vibrating away on top of the dryer, with tear stained cheeks, has grown to be a fine young man of 17 years. My new washer and dryer were given to me by him…for mother’s day. My hope is to be able to use them to wash and dry his son’s clothes, several years from now.
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Post# 30355-6/16/2003-08:56 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Wringer Washing Machines
MESSAGE: Wringer washers appear every now and then on Ebay. Here is a link to one for a Maytag in good shape....there is also a 1950's GE posted that is pretty cool, just needs a little cosmetic work.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2329423147&category=20714
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Post# 30356-6/16/2003-10:14 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: For those whom asked, a response
MESSAGE: Guys,
I took a original ad for the 1959 Westinghouse L-1000's and a picture of Betty to a T-Shirt Store in my local mall. They scanned both of them and used different parts of them to create the shirt I described. It cost a pretty penny though...around $40.00 and some change. Basically it computer animated the pieces i.e. The Laundromats, and the "You can be SURE"...and fanagled them into a way where they would fit on the front and back of a t-shirt. Then like MAGIC this airbrushing machine created this beautiful product. It is definitly one-off to say the least.
Thanks
Chad
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Post# 30357-6/16/2003-10:31 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: "heartwarming"consumer correspondence
MESSAGE: What a great letter.
Thanks for sharing Leslie.
Brent
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Post# 30358-6/16/2003-14:42 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: '57 maytag ad? (Re: Maytag AMP)
MESSAGE: Hi Chris! The Maytag AMP stands for AutoMatic with a Pump! Maytag also had an AM washer which was an AutoMatic washer without a pump that was gravity drained! Sorry my reply is so late but I've been out of town for the past two weeks. Take Care, Mark
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Post# 30359-6/16/2003-14:51 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Significant's TRYING to HELP with Washday
MESSAGE: .....sometimes it's hard to be a washerwoman......givin all your love to just one man......he'll have good times...we'll have bad times doin things that he just don't understand....after all....he's just a man.....stand by your....need I say more!!! Now that was funny!
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Post# 30360-6/16/2003-15:21 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: RE: Significant's TRYING to HELP with Washday (Thanks For The Warm Replies)
MESSAGE:
It's nice to know that there are a few good natured persons here that took what I said with a grain of salt and laughed. To those persons I thank.
I want to thank Robert for stepping in and finding a remedy to the previous situation at hand. And a big thanks to him for "outlining" what is and what "isn't" acceptable here on "Applianceville"...in posts and things.
I hope that my continuation here as a "fellow poster" will be accepted and respected.
Chad
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Post# 30361-6/16/2003-16:09 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: Am I The Only One Who OVERSUDSING happens to?
MESSAGE: Everyone,
When I use my Westinghouse Space-Mates...no matter what I do unless I use an incredibly "tiny" amount of detergent; seems to always oversuds into the window/doorboot cavity and I can tell that it impairs the Washing Action. Does ANYONE other than me have a "straight-front" Laundromat that does this with most detergents.
I tried the "very expensive" Tide HE and I felt that my clothes would have been cleaner if I had washed them in nothing at all and just used warm water. Besides that, they diddn't SMELL clean; and I know that for most of us here that is VERY important.
I am very much in love with Gain Fresh Wash that I use with it. If I use too little doesn't seem to be washing well (about 1/4 cup). If I use more (about 1/2 cup) ther are too many darned suds and the machine is hampered. There is NO happy medium.
So now what I have been "doing" is putting a VERY small amount (about1/4 cup ) of the Gain Fabric Softner in with the wash cycle to help "cut the suds". It works...but doesn't that ALSO cut down on washability of the detergent?
Ideas?
I know that a few weeks back Canadian detergents were discussed, but that isn't practical to buy for most anyone. I have Tried...
All- Makes me break out in hives, sudses WAAY too much no matter what amount you use.
Cheer- Works decent but also makes me break out if not proprerly rinsed.
Tide- Original works ok but still sudses too much and makes my machine work REALLY hard to tumble. I actually can hear the motor straining when i use this.
TideHE- See comments above
Surf- I will have such a severe allergic reaction to it that Im itching JUSt thinkin bout'it.
Purex- Uhm...well I have used it, It smells acceptable, but my wash looks WORSE after the fact. i.e See Pond Scum
Rinso- My question from earlier. When I first got my Westy I still had like three boxes. It always seemed to get my clothes clean smelling good and NEVER oversudsed.
Arm and Hammer- Ok deoderant and baking soda, CRAPPY laundry detergent and will also make me break out.
Dreft- EXPENSIVE but washes well and doesn't oversuds and leave a very light fresh pleasant scent about your clothes.
Oxydol- Just a bleach now but i use it in every load of colors that I do. It doesn't seem to suds much at all.
Is ther anything I havent tried that my well serve a good purpose for me. Is there anything that won't make my washer work harder.
Thanks
Chad
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Post# 30362-6/16/2003-17:08 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: OVERSUDSING & the Westinghouse Space mate
MESSAGE: Today I used Cheer HE with Colorguard in my '59 Westinghouse frosting pink Space Mate washer with a load of colored shorts & t-shirts & socks. Worked perfectly. After the second rinse I opened the door & added Downy Free for the 3rd rinse...then, after the cycle ended, into the Sanyo for an 800 rpm spin before drying..
Part of the problem of detergents making you itch is because they're not rinsing out properly - which could be explained by the slow spin of the Westinghouse space mate machine - much too slow by modern standards. Any washer spinning under 600 falls into the weak spinner department - and this so very much affects how well the detergent leaves the clothes & rinses out. I have VERY sensitive skin & have noticed a remarkable diffrence since beginning to use the ASKO which spins at 1000 rpms & also the Sanyo spinner which goes around 800, before drying.
Also, oversudsing can be controlled by using about a 1/8 dosage of Tide HE and ANYTHING OTHER detergent you like. Even the smallest dose of Tide HE contains enough suds suppressant to control an entire wash load. Rememeber to use less detergent for loads which may not be as heavily soiled.
My fussiest machine about oversudsing/suds locking is the '55 Kenmore, which does not like to spin with suds present AT ALL.
The '55 Kenmore also uses the HOT MED WARM water inlet valve arrangement. This could be said to be an early, mechanically controlled version of automatic temperature control. There's a bimetalic diverter in the inlet valve which mixes the hot & cold water to the warm & medium temperatures .
B
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Post# 30363-6/16/2003-17:37 ||| westie2 (arkansas)
SUBJECT: RE: Am I The Only One Who OVERSUDSING happens to?
MESSAGE: Our oldest son who is now 28 has always had reactions to detergents. The only one that doesn't seem to cause him to break out and itch is the Sears brand. We started with that when he was about 3 months old and he and his family still use it. We still use it along with others. With six kids it was the most economical for us to use as we only used cloth diapers on the kids along with bleach and bluing. Now for 2 of us can use what we like. It does do a good job and any fabric softner will give you the smell you like.
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Post# 30364-6/16/2003-18:21 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Am I The Only One Who OVERSUDSING happens to?
MESSAGE: A couple of points here -
* Have you tried Gain HE?? It is relatively new and although made in both powder and liquid, I suspect that the liquid will be easier to find - at least here in the Northeast. I have only seen it at WalMart, not at regular grocery stores. If you like Gain, that may help. Also, as noted by ImperialBob, Cheer Liquid is now available in an HE formula.
* I answered your Rinso question in a post the other day - and quite well too. Did you see that post?
* I don't know how you manage to use Dreft in a front loader. I can't even use it in my top loader - it sudses way too much.
* Is your reference to Purex based on using the new tabs? The tabs are low sudsing and they seem to clean very well. The Mountain flavor leaves an acceptable fragrance - I find the regular way too strong.
*Not much to say about Surf if you have a reaction. Best not to even try it....
* Oxydol IS a detergent and always has been. It is no longer made by Procter and Gamble but another company, Redox Brands bought the name. Are you confusing that with Oxi Clean? That is the product which is only a non chlorine bleach.
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Post# 30365-6/16/2003-18:25 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: OVERSUDSING & the Westinghouse Space mate
MESSAGE: Thanks for the explanation Bob, I was wondering how those older machines regulated their temperatures without the assistance of today's ATC.
I also am having "fun" trying to figure out the right amount of detergent to use in my modern front loader. Soil must have alot to do with it, because just when I think I haven't added enough, I find more suds in the first rinse than in the main wash.
-Alex
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Post# 30366-6/16/2003-19:06 ||| kenwashesmonday (Haledon, NJ)
SUBJECT: RE: Am I The Only One Who OVERSUDSING happens to? (Era???)
MESSAGE: Am I the only one here that uses Era detergent?
It washes well in all temeratures, doesn't sudz too much, and doesn't make me itch.
I've never heard anyone mention Era here before, is it uncool?
I'm not using a front-loader, but I like Era (even though it seems it's NEVER on sale).
Ken D.
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Post# 30367-6/16/2003-19:33 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: RE: Am I The Only One Who OVERSUDSING happens to? (Era???)
MESSAGE: We have Era here in Fort Wayne,but I never use it.I was useing Gain with my Magtag,but it created suds lock in my 61 Whirlpool,so I switched to Purex Tabs at Imperial Bob advice. I love the Purex.No suds lock,and the clothes have a light clean smell,not a heavy perfume like the Gain.I am useing the Gain up in my 66 Filter-Flo. That dude wouldn't suds-lock with concrete! (-: By the way,I sold my 89 Maytag,along with a 1990's something Westinghouse dryer yesterday to a freind for $150.00 Out with the newer,for some more room for the older!Always a good policy I think!
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Post# 30368-6/16/2003-19:40 ||| SALVOBOY (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: RE: Am I The Only One Who OVERSUDSING happens to?
MESSAGE: If you're referring to the Purex tabs that are made in Belgium, I agree, they're excellent. And using one tab in a FL might do the trick. I generally use Ariel that I buy at the latin supermarket in my Maytag (it cleans great and is a real bargain). But have used the Purex tabs and it's great with stains and very low suds that I know is key with your vintage FL's. Too bad we didn't have that for our '66 Kenmore 70 - the suds lock king (or queen).
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Post# 30369-6/16/2003-19:47 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: RE: Am I The Only One Who OVERSUDSING happens to? (Era???)
MESSAGE: I forgot about ERA....That was some good stuff. That diddn't make me itch...and subsequently diddn't oversuds my Laundromat.
Bob...I think it's ABSOLUTLY awesome that you have a frosting pink Spacemate. I have seen it in your pictures and I just awed over it. Of course mine is a much LATER model that is done in a awful shade of beige, with dark brown Panel Control trim...and also has the "Weigh-To-Save" door. The dryer matches and now Im finding that it isn't drying all the way on "Auto-Dry". Since you have Westinghouse... any ideas pop to mind?
I DID not see that Gain was making an HE detergent. I must rev up the Packard and go to Wallyworld and look for it. And If I cannot find it I will try some Era. Also after I posted I also used Dynamo for the LONGEST time in my Lady Kenmore but then they messed with the scent and formulation and I never bought it again.
Usually after the "Regular" Cycle of my Westinghouse completes itself, i run it thru a "third' rinse "just to be SURE..." It usually helps. Thankfully no one else at my house is sensitive.
I know that my Westy spins slower than the newer FL Automatics in the pipeline...but I can't part with it. If I could find an older set sure, but until then she stays under the counter.
Oh yeah I was in Best Buy and they did have the new LG or whatever front loading automatics that were talked about. The pesty salesman had to tell me EVERYTHING about it and try to get me financing at the same time so I would buy a set. If you put on a pair of THICK COKE BOTTLE glasses tint them rose color and squint....You can see the Westinghouse 1955 Laundromats all over again. The new set is Identical both washer and dryer in cosmetic construction and has a LARGE window in the dryer.
Speaking of dryer windows, My veryfirst apartment had a old 60-70's Hamilton dryer in my Kitchen which the other THREE apartments could use (yucky) with a really small square window. I never had a dryer before that had a window. That Hamilton looked like a Speed Queen and had a Stainless steel tub if I remember right. It was avacado and woodgrain Contol head on the back part the dryer. Our idiot landlord finally felt that it was better to give us a Roper dryer. I coulda shot him.
Ironically the house had no washer until all three apt holders went in on a used early 80's GE Filter Flo. That essentially was my very "first" washer and dryer. Yeah that washer was harvest gold and ugly as heck.
Anyway
thank you For the replies Everyone
Chad
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Post# 30370-6/16/2003-19:50 ||| pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT: 1-18 Fabric Softener Dispenser
MESSAGE: Where can I get a fabric softener dispenser that goes into the jetcone of my circa 1975 Frigidare 1-18? The model number is WC-DT. I like to dry my clothes outside at the summer cottage, but the lake water is quite hard, ergo the need for a water softener. Thanks, Phil
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Post# 30371-6/16/2003-20:32 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: auto dry in the westinghouse space mate
MESSAGE: Well, if your machine is like mine, the auto dry thermostat is adjustable using small pliers. Also, it is important that the insulation be placed over top of the thermostat itself, beween the back of the dryer & and thermostat. This is what is says in the Westinghouse Service information book for the DH-4 dryer. I can give you the cutout temperatures , but advise trying adjusting that screw by hand 1/4 turn in either direction & see if that makes your auto dry work right.
Naturally, check to see that nothing has gone awry with your vent system, and that it is breathing freely.
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Post# 30372-6/16/2003-23:17 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Wringer Washing Machines
MESSAGE: This might be a beautiful washer - hard to tell from the picture, parts are common for these so if the porcelain is in good shape, the rest can be fairly easily restored. I have a beautiful 1964 Kenmore Visi-Matic wringer washer that was found by Jimmy in Ohio. It still needs a few minor adjustments, but it's an outstanding washer and works beautifully. There are still thousands of working wringer washers out there, I see them at estate sales, thrift stores, etc. Many dealers I've been to still have parts for wringer washers on the shelves - the shop I go to has tons of them, mostly for Maytag. I would love to find a 1950's Speed Queen washer with a pump and stainless steel "bowl" tub.
There is a store in Iowa that has lots of wringer washers on hand and the owner told me he's shipped them to Canada and a person orders several every year and takes them to Mexico to resell. If you are interested in speaking with him, email me and I'll send you his information.
Good luck in your search, Greg
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Post# 30373-6/16/2003-23:31 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: For those whom asked, a response
MESSAGE: Interesting - will the design hold up with washing? Loved your story, perhaps there will be a picture of you on stage popping up soon, please share if you get one! I've thought of doing that with whole ads or logos on the iron-on photo transfer paper made for an ink jet printer but I wasn't sure of the durability. There are a few ads that would look awesome on a t-shirt - the lady looking into the Frigidaire washer ('62?) and a few slogans spring to mind!
Greg
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Post# 30374-6/16/2003-23:39 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: "heartwarming"consumer correspondence
MESSAGE: Fantastic story, rare these days when consumers don't get attached to anything it seems!
"Oh, the belt broke on the 4 year old dryer, let's just get a new one..."
Thanks Leslie - Greg
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Post# 30375-6/17/2003-00:58 ||| Ironrite (Las Vegas NV)
SUBJECT: RE: Am I The Only One Who OVERSUDSING happens to? (A bit more modern...)
MESSAGE: In my Frigidaire F/L, I've had very good luck with ECOS liquid. Supposed to be hypoallergenic and has a built in soy softener. I've found it at Trader Joes and I think I've seen it at Kroger stores. It seems to be more of a soap based type product.
Here in Las Vegas, our water is like rocks, so I don't have any trouble with oversudsing. I usually use Downy Enhancer in the rinse.
Currently, I've had very good luck with those Purex tabs. I just use one and have to crush it a bit so it'll go in the dispenser. I usually give the clothes about a 20 minute soak, then finish out the wash cycle.
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Post# 30376-6/17/2003-01:27 ||| windycitybear (Chicago)
SUBJECT: RE: Hey why is there no Chat Room here? (This is Boring Lets get one going Again)
MESSAGE: If there was a chat room before lets get one going again You can easly add a link to one here. How could a chat room get meaner then the people that post here?
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Post# 30377-6/17/2003-05:02 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: Wringer Washing Machines (I have one...)
MESSAGE: Looking to purchase? My Maytag E2L is a complete restoration along with an owner's manual. I kept the original black bake-lite agitator, but it also has a newer blue plastic one as well. In those days, people would call it a "dasher". Let me know...
MrCoffee
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Post# 30378-6/17/2003-05:17 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: Am I The Only One Who OVERSUDSING happens to? (It seems to me...)
MESSAGE: That Dreft may be your best option. Do you use the liquid form? I know the powdered form will suds up a great deal if you're not careful, unless you have one of those machines like I have that suds very little no matter how much detergent you use (My Crosley comes to mind here). The viscosity of the water is very good for lifting the dirt, however. And it rinses very cleanly. Not only does this make a fine regular detergent, it is GREAT as a hand cleaner/degreaser as well! The liquid form hardly suds at all, and tends to do OK (if not for the price, I much prefer the powder form).
I mostly prefer Cheer for general uses. Very mild, and a lot less expensive then Dreft. I have experimented with liquid Surf/All, and it seems to handle any odors very well and hardly suds much. But it also doesn't clean quite as well. All/Surf doesn't like hard water either.
So much for my two cents worth.
MrCoffee
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Post# 30379-6/17/2003-06:06 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Am I The Only One Who OVERSUDSING happens to? (Era???)
MESSAGE: Are you kidding? Stop & Shop always has it on sale for $3.99 for the 100 ounce bottle.... I am not sure if the New Jersey S&S stores do the same sales as the New England stores but it is worth checking out....
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Post# 30380-6/17/2003-07:51 ||| chicago-barry (Chicago)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire Flair Ovens
MESSAGE: I've loved this oven ever since my grandparents got one when they remodeled their kitchen in the 60's. I'd like to have one for my new kitchen, but I'm concerned about things I've heard about how hard they can be to fix, since none of the parts are made anymore.
Does anyone know of a company that would take a Flair and give it all new electronics and controls, as well as reinsulate it and fix any cosmetic problems? Is such a thing even possible? And, finally, are any of these companies located in or near Chicago? Thanks!
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Post# 30381-6/17/2003-08:19 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: "heartwarming"consumer correspondence
MESSAGE: Hi Magic Clean
Great letter!
By coincidence yesterday I went out to fix a Whirlpool washer which has just had its 25th birthday.(well the inlet valve is stamped 5/78)
It has probably lived a hard life, the family it washes for run an earthmoving business. They have owned it since new. Its fault was just an inlet valve (it wasn't filling). Also it was getting a bit hysterical on spin which turned out to be a worn out snubber. (I just bent the spring down further to take up the wear.)
Although quite dirty underneath and a bit battered outside, this machine still purrs along. It would be one of the last Aussie made belt drive Whirlpools, by the early eighties the local manufacturer of Whirlpool washers, Malleys Ltd, was taken over by their mortal opposition, Email who made Simpson, Westinghouse and other brands. The Whirlpool name continued on but underneath it was a Simpson. (Eventually the Whirlpool name disappeared for a few years, now somewhere along the line Whirlpool Corp USA got control again and sell USA made TL's and European made FL's.)
This washer was a very basic model, it had variable water level and timer its only controls. Temperature was selected by different positions on the timer. Cold wash was only 2 minutes agitation! (I guess they assumed people who wash in cold don't care how clean the clothes are?) Its owner always washes in cold but gets a longer wash by selecting a warm cycle and leaving the hot tap off.
Its owner is very fond of it and has no plans to replace it. Judging by how well it works now it will celebrate at least its 30th birthday still in that laundry.
Chris.
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Post# 30382-6/17/2003-08:44 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: OVERSUDSING & the Westinghouse Space mate
MESSAGE: Hi ProgramComputer
I think Bob has hit the nail on the head with the spin speed thing. I have come to the conclusion that more modern detergents have components that really "cling" to the fabric, in other words they actively resist rinsing. In slow spinning machines you get an overdose of these residues of optical brighteners, perfumes and so on. Optical brighteners in particular I don't like, their purpose is to reflect light off the fabric so it looks "cleaner" than it really is. They can be very irritating to sensitive people. I reckon this is why you can't find a happy medium - if there is little enough dose to get no residues of brighteners and perfumes, there is nowhere near enough actual cleaning ingredients. If you up the dose enough to get better cleaning, you have too much perfume and brighteners.
I used to have a Eurolec front loader (NOT Eurotech) from the late seventies which only spun at 400 rpm and had a small diameter European drum. (It was made in Italy by Kennedy)
I had all sorts of problems with itching and so on, as its spin was so woeful it hardly squeezed out any residues despite 5 rinses.
THEN i found a solution (Ta Da!):
Real LOW tech - Plain old generic laundry soap (yellow bars), plus stain removing bar soap. (here in Aus we have Sard Wonder Soap, a white soap with eucalyptus oil which gets rid of greasy marks. There are generic copies which is what I used)
I would grate up one box (4 bars) of laundry soap, (75 cents) and one bar of "generic Sard" (60 cents) and that would do me for over a month. It only needed about one dessertspoon. (=US tablespoon) for a load. It really works well. It foams up a bit at first, after about two minutes tumbling it settles down to a nice level and by the end of the wash it had almost no suds left.(the suds seem to "die" during the wash.) The final rinse was almost clear. No clingy additives = not hard to rinse, even in a slow spinning machine.
Now I use an "infant formula" powder in a better machine, but that is a local product so no interest to you. Actually it is no longer available here either, I am running on accumulated stock so in about a year I might have to go back to grating my own!
Best Wishes
Chris.
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Post# 30383-6/17/2003-09:39 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: '55 KENMORE PEES FLOOR - PHOTOS AT 11:00
MESSAGE: Oh dear. Peeing. Coming from outer tub, at drain hose (where in a modern belt drive machine the pin trap is located). Tub removal and leak repair suddenly high on the priority list of things to do today.
Photos later this evening....
B
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Post# 30384-6/17/2003-11:25 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse
MESSAGE: Guys,
On a few topics discussed.
1. My 1-18 doesn't have a fabric softner dispenser either. I have looked the world over for one and finally gave up. Mine just has a white cap With the Frigidaire Logo and Crown on it. I wouldn't know what to do if the thing had one. I probably would stop using my Westinghouse "gasp and crying from audience"...and use the 1-18's.
And as a interesting sidebar, When I wash my clothes in the 1-18 instead of the Westy, I find that they are drier than most and they seem cleaner; and I DONT itch. I'm scared to death of overusing it though. I know that they have that stupid bellows and they arent making any parts for it anymore and I just want to keep it nice. The dryer I use though it's so NICE to be able to dry two loads whilst you wash the third. And yes the 1-18 dryer does dry faster (now) than the Westy (then).
2. Bob, thank you for the info on how to adjust the auto-dry thermostat. I will check over what you said to. Also diddn't think about checking the tubes outside, THAT is a project I haven't done in AWHILE. My dumb luck is that there will be a birds nest or a Hornets Nest in the tubes.
3. Wringer washers- God I have owned SEVERAL of them. Mostly Maytag my nicest one was a late 1940's Master N2L I believe With pump. Mine had all red trim and the Gyrafoam Agitator was red also. I had problems with all of the Maytags clogging with lint at the drain trap screen. But thankfully the agitator removed quite easily and thus it wasn't as bad as it could have been. My second one was a Cheiftan with all blue trim (MUCH LATER MODEL) that you had to step on a bulb connected to this hose to get the rollers to go. That lasted like fifteen minutes until I rigged it not to need the steppybulb.
And then I had a late 1930's Maytag Wringer that also had a pump...but it was driven RIGHT off the front of the motor ALA Whirlpool in the Direct drives. This was one of the OLD grey square tub Maytags before the more popular and well rememebred all white porcelain maytags began appearing The Master(1939) Commander and Cheiftan (1940). un fact when i dated the machine thru Maytag it had a build date of June 1938 so that is all I have to say about that.
I also had a 1960's Norge that was White again with Blue trim. The pump worked hardly at all and you had to YANK the crap out of the handle to get it to engage in WASH. The Lovell wringer excelled over the last ones only superceeded by the Maytags.For whatever reason, Maytag has then and now one of the VERY BEST wringers ever.
Also too had a 1970's Wards Signature (i.e SpeedQueen) Wringer Washer in harvest gold with Wood Trim around the Dials and levers the wringer was all white as well as the "bowl shaped" tub. It had a pump and if you just bumped the control JUST right....it would shoot water ALL over the floor. This one I had in my first Apartment in the Bathroom before we got the GE Filter Flo.
And up until last fall... I had a 1930's Apex With the Floto-Plane Agitator. I cannot explain this agitator to you but it was the coolest and had tons of holes in the fins to let the water thru. there was no pump and the wringer left ALOT to be desired. Interestingly enough...I sold it at a garage sale for $125.00.
4. I hope this shirt holds up too. At $40.00 I think that I will be handwashing it at any rate and drying it on a rack. I have a plunger that I drilled holes in so it can be agitated in my laundry sink. I will just dry it on the clothes rack or out on the line.
5. Chat room- It could be a good idea but possibly do it over at the sandbox....Just my thought.
6. We have very soft water around the Lansing Michigan area...so that is why soap sudses so much and doesn't rinse out worth a crap irregardless of what's in the Detergent formula. NOW I'm NOT saying that that doesn't have something to do with it...I'm sure that it does...but even when you shower it seems that you can't rinse off. We live on a plume of water called the Saginaw aquifer...the water is some of the BEST on the planet...but again..it's TOOO soft and you can rinse anything...even dishes feel slimy.
7. Spin Speed- obviously answered that the 1-18 spins faster than the Westy removing more saop and drying faster. I have been looking at A newer set of "GASP SCREAMS AND MOANING" a set of Frigidaire Gallery's that have that 1000+ spin speed But I can't buy something that is a DIRECT rip off from what used to be Westinghouse. If ANYTHING Frigidaire should have at least kept the Westinghouse name on something ESPECIALLY anything having to do with a Front Loading washer. Oh well my opinion...blaat.
And Last but not least...
8. Bar Soap- I used to grate up Fels Naptha and another bar Soap called "Kirks Coco Hardwater Castile"...which I used in my Signature Wringer...because it was cheap and when I first moved out I was VERY poor at that time. It seemed to work very well, create a good lather ( and mind you with the VERY plain straigh vane Speed Queen agitator) and rinse out rather well. My apartment kitchen had the old stamped cast Iron sink with DEEP water wells. So I could in fact use a wringer washer there.
Don't slap me but when I finally got that Filter Flo I about crapped myself... There is a DEFINITE difference in using a wringer and using an automatic. Hands down that's why wringer washers aren't made anymore.
Thanks
Chad
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Post# 30385-6/17/2003-11:32 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse (Kirk's coco hardwater castille)
MESSAGE: I love that soap but it only became available in the Atlanta area a few months ago. My best friend who is from the Boston area used to semd me a few bars. It lathers like crazy but I've never tried it in the washer, only on myself.
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Post# 30386-6/17/2003-12:36 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: HOSE NUMBER 19026
MESSAGE: Rubber failure. See the link.
Anyone gota 19026 hose?....it's rather specific...in this '55 Kenmore, the pump body moves back and forth to engage the pulley and drive the pump...so this hose is rather long
& needs to be able to move back and forth slightly..
I'm gonna take a damitol & go to the gym & workout hard behind all this..
B
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/PEEING/INDEX.htm
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Post# 30387-6/17/2003-13:33 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: RE: HOSE NUMBER 19026 (Yucky Broken Hose)
MESSAGE: Wow,
It split RIGHT on the seam that sucks. I wonder if any JB weld would work on it. It fixed that pump for the Bendix Dialamatic or whatever a few days ago and that was made of plastic albeit hard plastic. And I also used it to repair a soft rubber gasket piece on My old Apex Dyno Vacuum Cleaner that would have renered that machine virtually useless. Just an idea but that JB weld is pretty universal repair stuff.
By the way BOB , what is the name of that tune that's playing while your looking at pictures. I KNOW I HAVE HEARD it before but Im racking my egg for an answer.
Thanks
Chad
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Post# 30388-6/17/2003-13:40 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: ALWAYS LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE OF LIFE
MESSAGE: That's the tune in the background of the peeing page - it's a Monty Python ditty, from the Meaning of Life...
AND
Would you believe, I have here a hose saved spare from the Equator combo which makes a spendid replacement to the original Kenmore sump hose....it's even ribbed, providing greater flexibility than the original...The appliance Gods are with me today, and the old girl oughta be washing again later tonight..
B
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Post# 30389-6/17/2003-13:56 ||| salvoboy (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: RE: HOSE NUMBER 19026
MESSAGE: Hey Bob-
Sorry to hear about your problem. Thanks though for the great pic of those '55s. It was very clear and showed the corner mounted knobs - my favorite part since they were eye-level as a little guy! Just like my grandmother's and great grandmother's sets. Of your collection, they're my favs. Channeling good hose karma your way ......
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Post# 30390-6/17/2003-15:17 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: RE: ALWAYS LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE OF LIFE (Lady K's Bypass Surgery )
MESSAGE: Bob,
Great song and what great luck finding a hose that will work.
That K looks FABULOUS, probably better than when it left the showroom in 55'.
I also used some JB weld on a Coolant hose in my dads 1956 Packard Patrician that blew it's cool (I couldn't resist) on my way back from Grand Haven/Grand Rapids last summer with five freinds in the car and the air conditioning on full blast. My grandpa told us before he passed that spring that when the car became My dads it would need new rubber.
So my dad, brother and myself assumed that it needed NEW tires. So $700.00 later We had new Coker Radial whitewalls on it and no new coolant hoses. I WISH That he would have been more specific. And my dad is about as techinical as an abacus so we just thought underhood was ok.
What does this have to do with old washing machines?
The fact that the JB WELD held that upper coolant hose together after drying all the way back to home 54.8 miles and never leaked a single drop. And saved grandpa's Packard from a VERY bad death. I am a advocate of that stuff.
I have used it on all sorts of things including my good ol' Westinghouse where the tub hose connects to the tub..where a small leak developed...and on the 1-18 on a hose near the pump. It's held together stuff that glue would seperate over.
Also had you not had that hose to retrofit....you could have used it and it probably would have worked. I have so much of that stuff that it's not even funny. And for what it does it's cheap.
But anyhow...go you and hope that you can be RotoSwirling later this evening...
Yours
Chad
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Post# 30391-6/17/2003-16:53 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Flair Ovens (I know what you mean! (Sigh))
MESSAGE: The Frigidaire Flair and GE push button stoves from the 50's and 60's are my favorite era for electric stoves. Although they're probably not the only game in town, www.antiqueappliances.com is the only place that I know of that restores antique stoves and fridges. Unfortunately, their restored appliances are VERY expensive. We're talking 1,000's of dollars. (Sigh) Someone actually commissioned them to restore a Frigidaire Flair. Their website doesn't indicate how much they charged for the custom restoration.
They're located in Georgia. Their website lists the "new homes" of their restored pieces, which seem to be located all over the country.
Here's a link to the restored Flair: http://www.antiqueappliances.com/stoves/1962FrigidaireFlair.htm
and here's a link to their homepage: http://www.antiqueappliances.com
Good luck in finding someone to restore your treasure. Please let us know how you make out.
Mike
LINK: http://www.antiqueappliances.com/stoves/1962FrigidaireFlair.htm
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Post# 30392-6/17/2003-19:25 ||| JAKINS (Kissimmee, Fl.)
SUBJECT: Out With the New and In With the Old
MESSAGE: Hi Guys
Well the Westinghouse Twins are cleaned, Oiled, And Painted. and Up and Running. I put them back together today after a coat of Perma Glaze. The pics do not show how good they really look. I had a Problem with the speed changer the oil seals were bad when i tried some new gear oil it ran out of the machine over night. Still got warm with the new oil. and since this is not a serviceable unit The only thing that I could Think of was to shoot some grease In there. I used some with Slick 50 in it and now she runs very quiet and alot cooler also no leaks. This has been alot of fun for me. and they are such a nice design. I converted the dryer to 110 volts and that is also working fine the only thing i had to do to help it along was to restrict the air flow a little so that it would blow alittle hotter air. one thing I wish it had was the How dry I Am chimes. Just turns off. Well I have to find something new to drive the husband nuts with now.
A special Note of thanks to Greg Nunn. I could not have done this without his help! Thanks Greg.
Hope to post more soon
John
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/jakins2001/vwp?.dir=/GENERAL+ELECTRIC+DISHWASHER&.src=ph&.dnm=Ready+for+Painters.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/jakins2001/lst%3f%26.dir=/GENERAL%2bELECTRIC%2bDISHWASHER%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 30393-6/17/2003-20:09 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Out With the New and In With the Old (Way to go John!)
MESSAGE: John,
You really went all the way with this set! They look wonderful!
I am sure that you are washing up a storm!
Thanks so much for sharing the photo's of the re-birth of your machines. They look great where you have them.
I am sure that they are very happy with their new life!
Brent
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Post# 30394-6/17/2003-20:58 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Out With the New and In With the Old (Outstanding!!)
MESSAGE: They look absolutely stunning - you did such a nice job on them! Interesting to hear that the grease and slick-50 worked so well in the speed changer, it's hard to know what sort of oil Westinghouse used in those orginally so trial and error is the rule sometimes. I suspect that they must have used a heavy viscosity oil in them if the gear oil you used ran out so quickly. Thanks for the continuing picture updates, it's been fun watching you bring them back to life. You are more than welcome for the little help that I provided - we all learn as much from each other's work as we do working on our own so you have repaid the favor already! Now you are ready for a Frigidaire unimatic tranny restore - we just need to find more machines!
Thanks again and happy tumbling - Greg
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Post# 30395-6/17/2003-21:28 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: HOW DRY I AM
MESSAGE: '55 Kenmore works like new again thanks to doner sump hose from Equator spare parts pile. Pack rat tendencies pay off again. Grandma Kenmore is pleased with the superior flexibility of the replacement sump hose, and with the cleaned & tightened drive belt (new 5 years ago) engages & pumps more affirmatively than before. Good Day.
B
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Post# 30396-6/17/2003-22:20 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Out With the New and In With the Old (Awesome!)
MESSAGE: I'm so glad that you were able a) to rescue those wonderful machines and b) restore to as close to their original splendor as possible. Thanks for sharing your efforts both in words and pictures. I'm all thumbs when it comes to my mechanical ability so I truly admire those of you who bring these wonderful old machines back to life.
Mike
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Post# 30397-6/17/2003-22:27 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: RE: Out With the New and In With the Old
MESSAGE: Very classy machines there! Thanks for sharing.
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Post# 30398-6/17/2003-22:28 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: HOW DRY I AM (YAY)
MESSAGE: Another great Kenmore revived!
Grind-Click-Clunk!
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Post# 30399-6/17/2003-22:32 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: RE: HOW DRY I AM
MESSAGE: When in doubt,save it! (when it comes to obsolete parts for about anything collectable) Way to go Bob! (-:
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Post# 30400-6/17/2003-22:37 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: ALWAYS LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE OF LIFE (JB Weld and starting to get a little sandy)
MESSAGE: JB Weld fixed my VW Bug one day. It backfired and caused the safety pop out on the carburetor to well.. pop out. It's made so that instead of backfiring and damaging the engine, it pops this round piece out of the carb. JB Weld... VROOM! good as new. Drove it from New Orleans to Pensacola, FL and back. I miss that car now.
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Post# 30401-6/17/2003-23:37 ||| windycitybear (Chicago)
SUBJECT: RE: HOW DRY I AM
MESSAGE: Well I never had a doubt in my mind that you would get her up and running in no time flat. You are a wizard with those old washers Bob. Knowing the size of your "wand" I knew it wouldn't take much waving to make an old lady behave once again!
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Post# 30402-6/18/2003-00:08 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: Look What I found
MESSAGE: Frigidaire washer and Dryer
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/oldappliancenut/lst?.dir=/Frigidaire&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/
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Post# 30403-6/18/2003-05:26 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Look What I found
MESSAGE: So, how about some details, like where, when and how? They look great!!
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Post# 30404-6/18/2003-07:12 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: "heartwarming"consumer correspondence
MESSAGE: Leslie, I love it, very sweet indeed.
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Post# 30405-6/18/2003-07:20 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Am I The Only One Who OVERSUDSING happens to?
MESSAGE: Chad, have you trie Gaine HE yet??? Also, Fab powder has instructions on the box for using in a front loader. In my area of the country it's getting hard to find in any place other than the Dollar stores of some ilk. I tried Purex liquid and broke out. When I went to use Gain, I quit itching and the rash cleared up. Fab also didn't make me itch.
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Post# 30406-6/18/2003-07:24 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: My 2nd favorite POD is on!
MESSAGE: Now is that a dream machine or what?
Of course my #1 POD of all time is...
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/kenmore800/vwp?.dir=/pictures/Dream+Machines&.src=ph&.dnm=Kenmore+800.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/kenmore800/lst%3f%26.dir=/pictures/Dream%2bMachines%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 30407-6/18/2003-07:45 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Out With the New and In With the Old (Outstanding!!)
MESSAGE: "We just need to find more machines"--a unimatic or rapid dry. Hello, as I wave my little paw!!! I'd be more than happy to adopt a restored Frigidaire and give it a good, loving home!!!
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Post# 30408-6/18/2003-07:46 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Look What I found
MESSAGE: Great looking washer and dryer. Yeah, another Frigidaire pair has been saved! I could watch them wash all day!!! Todd
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Post# 30409-6/18/2003-08:00 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Look What I found
MESSAGE: OMG, I wish I could afford to have that pair checked out and refurbbed; shipped to me and have one of you guys come and install them for me. Jimmy!!!!???? Steve!!!!! aaaagghhhh!!!!! I hate being 10 thumbs!!!! I'm verklempt!!!
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Post# 30410-6/18/2003-08:02 ||| todde (longbeach, IN)
SUBJECT: RE: Am I The Only One Who OVERSUDSING happens to? (Why not just use Dreft)
MESSAGE: You say you like Dreft and it works well without too much sudsing but is expensive. What about all the money you are wasting on trying other brands you don't like. Just bite the bullet and spend a little extra for what works, especially if you are breaking out!
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Post# 30411-6/18/2003-08:12 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: Look What I found (look what i found)
MESSAGE: the washer needs a water fill valve and a bellow beside tha it works great and the dryer need one of the blower belts fixed...i found them behind a gas station a few mies from my house that collect scrap
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Post# 30412-6/18/2003-08:47 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Look What I found (Wow!!!)
MESSAGE: The dryer is a 1964 model. It's matching washer would have been the last year of the Multimatic mechanism.
The washer model tag is unreadable because of the flash. Can you post the model number? I'm surprised that with the fabic setting dial that the machine is a Custom Deluxe. Would have thought that it would be an Imperial. I've only seen one other Jet-Action washers with the fabric settings dial. Very rare find! Too cool! Congrats!
-ph
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Post# 30413-6/18/2003-08:53 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Out With the New and In With the Old (Stunning!)
MESSAGE: They look wonderful in that little kitchenette. Congrats! Your hard work really paid off!
-ph
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Post# 30414-6/18/2003-09:12 ||| rayjay (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Am I The Only One Who OVERSUDSING happens to? (Why not just use Dreft)
MESSAGE: Chad, I had the same problem. I use Persil Detergent. I think it is imported from Germany and it is recommended by Miele's front loading wsahing machines. You can go to website prairieappliances.com or call (1-888-422-0100. Or, another site is www.vacuumsvacuumsvacuumsvacuumsvacuumsvacuumsvacuumsvacuumsvacuums.com and their phone number is 1-800-322-2965. They have quite a selection of laundry products in Persil. They are not cheap either, but work. I also have sensitive skin. I purchase the detergent at a local appliance store that carries Miele products. Good luck and let me know how you make out.
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Post# 30415-6/18/2003-09:13 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Look What I found (look what i found)
MESSAGE: IT is rare for a Custom Deluxe to have the fabric settings. Does it say Rapid Dry on the panel somewhere else?? Does the washer lid instructions for whites & colors say for spin speed rapid dry 1000 or 710 rpm???
OMG I want this washer and dryer, I wish I could fix it. AGGGGHHH!!! I'm going bonkers!!!! Bouncing off the walls!!!
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Post# 30416-6/18/2003-09:15 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Out With the New and In With the Old
MESSAGE: John, they're gorgeous. OOOOHHH. And I see that wonderful dishwasher too!!, the GE!!! Bob
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Post# 30417-6/18/2003-10:26 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Look What I found (Wow!!!)
MESSAGE: These are very nice, interesting rare finds! This is the first time I've seen a live photo of that style of 1964 control panel. Very cool.
I think this washer must be what Tom would refer to as a "drop in" model, made special for some store or company, or perhaps a special limited edition. I'm betting it is made between 1967-69. I'm thinking it would probably say "Rapidry 1000" if it were so, but being a change from the typical Custom Deluxe, who knows. It is indeed featured more like an Imperial. The Custom Deluxe must have sold well in those years because we have seen a fair amount of them, but not with this control. If you look back to Eddy's pictures (the style I'm most accustomed to) there are temps where the fabric dial is, and a speed selector where the cold switch is on this one. Our neighbor had the one like Eddy's only in Coppertone with black knobs.
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Post# 30418-6/18/2003-11:39 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: POD Lady Kenmore was just like Grammas'
MESSAGE: Guys,
Bout crapped when I saw todays POD. That was the machine the my Grandmother so lothesomely hated when my Great Uncle sold/ forced it on her in the 70's. I thought that it was JUST beautiful, and that she was criminally insane anyhow.
Course she Always knew where to find my little self parked on the "laundry stool" sitting across from two of the coolest machines I can remember next to my other Grandma's slant Front 63'Westy's. And I was usually ALWAYS in their Laundry Rooms if not playing with their vacuum cleaners.
I can Remember purposely getting myself "dirty and wet" just so she would use them, and I could watch. She was mad as hell for my playing one time out in the rain and the mud instead of in the garage where I was supposed to.
But I did it, missed afternoon treat because I was bad..:-) But at any rate, I got to sit my butt there on my little "laundry stool' staring like I was high at the light glowing softly thru the bottom half of the contol doors. SEARS and Lady Kenmore in Gold Script. Both of them had the Sears-Best Stickers on them as well.
Hearing that (Washing)Whir,wush.Whir,wush.Whir,wush. Whir,wush.(clink)whir.whir.(pumping out)whir.whir.whir.whir. grind.snap.clink.clink.clunk( grrrr whir whir whir whir whirwhir whir whir(spin starting). Is how "I" remember it sounding. Going from Wash to spinrinse. And my 1967's sound that way too.
Anyway
Im gonna cry too many "good Ol Dreams" about washin at my grandmothers houses.
Yours Chad
Chad
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Post# 30419-6/18/2003-11:41 ||| frigilux (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: '60's Frigidaire W & D
MESSAGE: Oldappliancenut: You lucky dog, you!! Great find! I'd love to get my hands on a Frigi pair from that era. I love the space capsule agitator. Congratulations!
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Post# 30420-6/18/2003-12:49 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Out With the New and In With the Old
MESSAGE: Hi John, all I can say is "WOW"! They look beautiful, great paint job. Hey I never would have thought of using Slick 50 grease. Did you drain the old oil before you refilled it with new gear oil? I was just wondering if maybe the new gear oil was a lot thinner than the original westinghouse oil, thin enough to get through the seals?
Anyway, enjoy truly classic front-load washing!
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Post# 30421-6/18/2003-12:56 ||| Sarahw (Richmond VA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Lady Kenmore was just like Grammas' (My Mom still has hers!)
MESSAGE: I giggled too at the POD - my mother's lovely avacado green LK's are still kicking her laundry around.
I never liked the dispenser, though - it left powder in the tray.
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Post# 30422-6/18/2003-14:55 ||| Pulsator (826 Vesper ,Ann Arbor, Michigan 48103)
SUBJECT: POD, Avacado Color
MESSAGE: Hi,I am back seeing as how most of the fighting has stopped. I have a question about that certain shade of Avacado. Does anyone know the exact shade color? I am re-thinking the color theme of my 1-18. I would love that color more becuase the interior is already blue! It looks so perfect! It looks so...me!
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Post# 30423-6/18/2003-15:51 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD, Avacado Color
MESSAGE: Jamie, I"m not sure if I'm understanding your question correctly, but I'll take a stab. The color I believe is roughly the same as a green olive. Many of the manufacturers did a sort of "trim" on these machines (in this case a few shades darker green) around the edges.
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Post# 30424-6/18/2003-16:51 ||| JAKINS (Kissimmee, Fl.)
SUBJECT: RE: Out With the New and In With the Old
MESSAGE: The Dishwasher is also a Westinghouse.
John
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Post# 30425-6/18/2003-16:54 ||| JAKINS (Kissimmee, Fl.)
SUBJECT: RE: Out With the New and In With the Old (Gear oil )
MESSAGE: I tried the thickest oil that i could find. it was a 110 weight gear oil. Very thick it was no fun cleaning up off the garage floor.
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Post# 30426-6/18/2003-16:58 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Look What I found (WCDAFN - 1969)
MESSAGE:
Very cool find indeed, looks like it's in very nice shape too. The repairs you mentioned should be relatively easy.
This model WCDAFN was introduced in 1969 at the same time as the "Cabinet" washer and dryer models.
The fabrics control (F in model)and cold water switch were added to this non-rapidry model. (630 spinner)
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Post# 30427-6/18/2003-18:05 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Look What I found
MESSAGE: WOW! Congratulations on pulling the prize rabbit out of the hat Old Appliance Nut!
This is really what I needed to see :)
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Post# 30428-6/18/2003-18:06 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Out With the New and In With the Old
MESSAGE: And another one!
They look like you did a really good job Jakins!
YAY! Looks like we are back to old times.
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Post# 30429-6/18/2003-22:51 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Look What I found (Awesome)
MESSAGE: Wow! What an wonderful find. I'm so glad that fate brought you to them. It would have been a crying shame for that pair to have been destroyed. The design of the control panel is my favorite Frigidaire design.
Congrats!
:-)
Mike
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Post# 30430-6/18/2003-23:05 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: 1957 Bendix Combination Washer-dryer
MESSAGE: Greetings Everyone! I have requested photos etc. from this seller to see what this machine looks like three times, and received NO RESPONSE at all. I have also had a friend email this seller with questions and received no response. I would be VERY careful before I placed a bid on this item.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3228542425&category=1400&rd=1
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Post# 30431-6/19/2003-00:02 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: Kenmore on ebay
MESSAGE: kenmore washer on ebay looks hardily used
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2330147242&category=42232
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Post# 30432-6/19/2003-00:20 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1957 Bendix Combination Washer-dryer
MESSAGE: Hi Mark - I too requested photos of this machine and did get a response, seller was to have pictures on the auction by the first of this week....
It may truly be a "collector's dream!"
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Post# 30433-6/19/2003-06:27 ||| CHRISTFR (st louis mo)
SUBJECT: SCAM ??? MAYBE
MESSAGE: HAS ANOYNE BEEN CONTACTED BY PERSONS BASED IN ENGLAND ?? I HAD TWO ITEMS FOR SALE A THE SITE AND AFTER HEARING ABOUT ALL THE SCAM PROBLEMS IM WONDERING IF THIS IS JUST ANOTHER ONE HAVE BEEN CONTACTED BY TWO PEOPLE WHO SAY THEY ARE BASED IN ENGLAND IT ALL SOUNDS FISHY TO ME ANY IDEAS ??
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Post# 30434-6/19/2003-06:27 ||| CHRISTFR (st louis mo)
SUBJECT: SCAM ??? MAYBE
MESSAGE: HAS ANOYNE BEEN CONTACTED BY PERSONS BASED IN ENGLAND ?? I HAD TWO ITEMS FOR SALE A THE SITE AND AFTER HEARING ABOUT ALL THE SCAM PROBLEMS IM WONDERING IF THIS IS JUST ANOTHER ONE HAVE BEEN CONTACTED BY TWO PEOPLE WHO SAY THEY ARE BASED IN ENGLAND IT ALL SOUNDS FISHY TO ME ANY IDEAS ??
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Post# 30435-6/19/2003-07:02 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: SRVAA
MESSAGE: SRVAA is the Society for Restoration of Vintage Automatic Appliances -
How does a guy become a member of this society? Is there a test? What are the benefits of becoming a member of this society?
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Post# 30436-6/19/2003-07:17 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore on ebay (My aunt's washing machine!)
MESSAGE: OMG!
Why are all the good washers so far away from New Orleans?
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Post# 30437-6/19/2003-07:28 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore on ebay (My aunt's washing machine!)
MESSAGE: Jason, I know what you mean. The price of the machine is great, but to ship it here would be $300 or so. This one is a beauty, with the vari-flex agitator. Todd
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Post# 30438-6/19/2003-08:28 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: 1957 Bendix Combination Washer-dryer
MESSAGE: Thanks for the update!
Why on earth would someone place a stating bid price at $5,000.00?
Now if the machine was still in the original crate, never been used with all the manuals still intact,
then the price is justifiable!
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Post# 30439-6/19/2003-09:28 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore on ebay (What's under the console cover?)
MESSAGE: It would be neat if it was the same model as yesterday's POD. I think you need to go for it Jason!
-ph
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Post# 30440-6/19/2003-09:30 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1957 Bendix Combination Washer-dryer
MESSAGE: I don't think any of my dreams would cost $5K... At least not my appliance dreams!
-ph
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Post# 30441-6/19/2003-09:36 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: SCAM ??? MAYBE
MESSAGE: As long as you don't pay any money to them or give them any personal info (bank acct, credit card number, SS#), it could be legit. But since they are buying, get ALL the money for the item first before releasing it.
-ph
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Post# 30442-6/19/2003-10:25 ||| radiobill1966 (Indianapolis, IN)
SUBJECT: RE: Out With the New and In With the Old
MESSAGE: Isn't the dryer the one that plays "How Dry I Am" when the cycle is complete?
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Post# 30443-6/19/2003-12:12 ||| AndrewInOrlando (Winter Park, FL)
SUBJECT: RE: Am I The Only One Who OVERSUDSING happens to?
MESSAGE: I notice that you mention Gain HE. I haven't seen it available anywhere here in Orlando. How long has it been out? For those who need a low sudsing detergent for a high efficeincy machine or front loader, I've had a lot of luck with Sears HE liquid laundry detergent. I use it in my Calypso where suds are a big no-no. No allergic reactions and very clean clothes, too. It's also CHEAP!! Only $9.99 for a 200 ounce bottle at the Sears Outlet Store. I believe it's the same price at the retail stores, too. But it works great in the Calypso, smells clean, washes whites and colors beautifully and requires no additional additives and only 1/4 cup for a full load of clothes, considerably less for smaller loads. Hope this helps!!
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Post# 30444-6/19/2003-12:13 ||| AndrewInOrlando (Winter Park, FL)
SUBJECT: RE: 1957 Bendix Combination Washer-dryer
MESSAGE: Those people are on some kind of hallucinogenic substance!! And no picture of the machine either? Does this sound fishy to anyone?
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Post# 30445-6/19/2003-12:14 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore on ebay (What's under the console cover?)
MESSAGE: "PeterH770":
Trust me, Peter...... it is. It is exactly the same model that was featured in yesterday's POD. I am willing to bet that push buttons even have the colored markings on them.
--Charles--
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Post# 30446-6/19/2003-12:16 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore on ebay (My aunt's washing machine! (To Jason):)
MESSAGE: "Jason":
Now.... you always said that you have wanted a push button LK washer. Now is your chance to get one.
Are you going to make a push to get this one??? And are going to start planning a trip to New Orleans???
--Charles--
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Post# 30447-6/19/2003-12:18 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore on ebay (My aunt's washing machine! (To Jason):)
MESSAGE: "Jason":
Correction........ I mean are you going to Chicago to pick it up should you bid on it and win it???
--Charles--
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Post# 30448-6/19/2003-12:33 ||| JAKINS (Kissimmee, Fl.)
SUBJECT: RE: Am I The Only One Who OVERSUDSING happens to? (Gain HE)
MESSAGE: Andrew Gain he is here in orlando at Winn Dixie and Publix.
and it works great.
John
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Post# 30449-6/19/2003-12:34 ||| JAKINS (Kissimmee, Fl.)
SUBJECT: RE: Out With the New and In With the Old (Dryer )
MESSAGE: No this one doesn't. I wish it did
John
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Post# 30450-6/19/2003-13:42 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: 1957 Bendix Combination Washer-dryer
MESSAGE: Even then, I don't think a STARTING bid of $5,000 is reasonable......
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Post# 30451-6/19/2003-13:46 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1957 Bendix Combination Washer-dryer
MESSAGE: The auction ended with no bids, I recieved a blank email from the seller today - may have been trying to send pics but the message was blank. I emailed him back to see if they might be still interested in selling and to find some pics somehow...we'll see.
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Post# 30452-6/19/2003-14:13 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: RE: 1957 Bendix Combination Washer-dryer
MESSAGE: Hey I have a restored 1961 Whirlpool washer I'll sell for $4500.00!! (-:
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Post# 30453-6/19/2003-15:56 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: 1957 Bendix Combination Washer-dryer
MESSAGE: If I had a $5000.- appliance dream I would call that a nightmare.
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Post# 30454-6/19/2003-16:04 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: 1957 Bendix Combination Washer-dryer (Insurance question)
MESSAGE: If vintage appliances would have that much value, you and Robert and some other members have a fortune worth of appliances. Does that require a special insurance? I could imagine such a collection is not covered by the normal home insurance. Ofcourse money can't replace these appliances but if something happens you have at least money to start with.
Just wondering,
Louis
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Post# 30455-6/19/2003-17:07 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: 1957 Bendix Combination Washer-dryer (Insurance question)
MESSAGE: I would most definitely think that some form of insurance would be worth having. Most of these appliance collections are worth well over $10,000.00. I would not be surprised if some collections are worth as much as the property their housed in! There are many business, in fact, that are FAR more concerned about the value of their inventory then the building it's housed in.
MrCoffee
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Post# 30456-6/19/2003-18:36 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1957 Bendix Combination Washer-dryer (Insurance question)
MESSAGE: I've often wondered this same thing - it might be worth a call to my insurance agent, after the initial bewilderment wears off, I'm sure a rider could be put on the policy for some of the more rare machines that are permanent pieces of the collection. Not only do some of us have rare machines, but the parts inventories certainly have monetary value as well. It would be a sad, sad day to lose everything in a disaster, but even worse would be having to go to a store to choose an "interim" washer and dryer - that would be truly horrible!
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Post# 30457-6/19/2003-19:00 ||| Neptune2000 (Florence, Sc)
SUBJECT: Insurance... collectables etc...
MESSAGE: Sirs,
I'm not an agent, but have from time to time had highly collectable " things " that needed to be covered in the event of loss etc... Most companies require a seperate scheduel that is to say listing, of all of these , in excruciating detail - pictures of [ oriental rugs, silver, crystal etc ]
and occasionally voucher's from a third party verifying the value. Frankly - it's all a real pain!
You might be well served to take pictures, or video's ( confirming " running " condition and store them in a safe deposit box... at least that way you could be sure of being able to confirm they are in your possession - OH - one other thing - be sure YOU are pictured with your appliance or part collection or there can be a dispute whether or not they were actually " yours ".
Hope this didn't wreck everyone's day.
Neptune2000
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Post# 30458-6/19/2003-19:55 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore on ebay (My aunt's washing machine!)
MESSAGE: They're even f a r t h e r from Florida!
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Post# 30459-6/19/2003-19:59 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: 1957 Bendix Combination Washer-dryer (Insurance question)
MESSAGE: ....all insurance questions aside....this entire auction sounds quite fishy to me!
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Post# 30460-6/19/2003-20:30 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT: needed Unimatic motor part found
MESSAGE: Hi, everyone.
Long time no post.
When I first got my '52 Frigidaire washer, my motor switch/stalling problem on the machine was temporarily cured by a spray of electronic cleaner into the switch area at the bottom of the motor.
It started up again in a dramatic way last week with smoke filling the basement, and fire extinguisher blasting. (Always have one handy guys!) There wasn't much left of the switch. It was almost all burned away.
With previous Yahoo photo direction and posted club notes from Robert and Greg, I was able to remove the pump assembly and motor without complication. I just hope it goes back together (without leaks) as easily!
Thanks to John L. I was able to find a new motor switch and contact plate ("the last one," I was told) from a appliance store in Berea, Ohio. Hopefully I'll have it within a week. It is going to a motor shop for installing it into the motor however.
Sorry about the panicky phone calls Robert. It may all work out after all.
P.S. If anyone needs a Unimatic spin solenoid, oil pump kit, torque spring or cork pump seals, let me know. I've got a number of them from a recent parts find in the Detroit area.
- Ken
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Post# 30461-6/19/2003-21:10 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: frigidiare Washer all fixed
MESSAGE: Put the new Bellow in this evening and fixed the water fill valve plus i cleaned up the rubber gaskets and the insides.. shes good to go anyone wanna buy it now hehehe
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/oldappliancenut/vwp?.dir=/Frigidaire&.src=ph&.dnm=Washer.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/oldappliancenut/lst%3f%26.dir=/Frigidaire%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 30462-6/19/2003-22:31 ||| jmm63 (Verona, NJ)
SUBJECT: Top Load Dryer
MESSAGE: Not that this is a vintage machine, but has anyone seen the new Fisher/Paykell top load DRYER? Theres an ad for it in the latest issue of "This old house' Can't wait to see one in person,
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Post# 30463-6/19/2003-23:09 ||| windycitybear (Chicago)
SUBJECT: RE: Top Load Dryer (Careful!!!)
MESSAGE: Unless you are a member of the "click" in here you will get your wrist slapped for such a post!
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Post# 30464-6/20/2003-00:14 ||| washerlover (northern California)
SUBJECT: Need to Make Room!
MESSAGE: I have to make room for my 1972 Frigidaire twins and 1984 Whirlpool twins so need to sell my like new 1998 GE matching washer & dryer. (washer model WBXR2060, dryer model DBL333) Plan to post on ebay but thought I'd mention it here in case anyone is interested. (hope I don't get into trouble for posting this since 1998 is hardly "vintage"....!)
Thanks,
Todd
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Post# 30465-6/20/2003-07:15 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Top Load Dryer (how does that work?)
MESSAGE: Is it like a H-axis top loading washing machine?
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Post# 30466-6/20/2003-07:29 ||| andrewinorlando (Winter Park, FL)
SUBJECT: RE: Am I The Only One Who OVERSUDSING happens to? (Gain HE)
MESSAGE: Thanks, John, I'll look for it next time I'm shopping there!!
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Post# 30467-6/20/2003-07:40 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: frigidiare Washer all fixed
MESSAGE: OAN, I'm guessing the last pix in the series is the actual "filtrator". When you have time could you show more pix of it? I understand how condenser dryers work (have one) but the whole filtrator deal facinates me!
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Post# 30468-6/20/2003-08:07 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: frigidiare Washer all fixed (More pics)
MESSAGE: here ya go
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/oldappliancenut/lst?.dir=/Frigidaire&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/
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Post# 30469-6/20/2003-08:37 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Top Load Dryer (Careful!!!)
MESSAGE: Well hi there Ross, nice to see you.
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Post# 30470-6/20/2003-09:16 ||| COMBOBOY (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: frigidiare Washer all fixed (More pics)
MESSAGE: OAN, thanks for the quick response. What I was hoping for was pix of the "pull out unit" and maybe some interior shots of where the unit connects so I can get a better idea on how it operates. Thanks,
Tom
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Post# 30471-6/20/2003-23:26 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore on ebay (My aunt's washing machine!)
MESSAGE: Vintage washers and bears have one thing in common, the best ones are never close by.
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Post# 30472-6/21/2003-09:02 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: Speed Queen with electronic controls
MESSAGE: There is a Speed Queen set for sale on eBay and it has electronic controls. I've never seen electronice Speed Queens, does anyone have a picture?
Louis
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2330008224&category=20714
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Post# 30473-6/21/2003-10:35 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: Speed Queen with electronic controls (my speed queen dryer)
MESSAGE: they aren't the best machine
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/oldappliancenut/vwp?.dir=/My+Photos&.src=ph&.dnm=SQ+Controls.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/oldappliancenut/lst%3f%26.dir=/My%2bPhotos%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 30474-6/21/2003-11:40 ||| Mcintosh (Fayetteville NY)
SUBJECT: 1970'3 Maytag Porta-Washer I Dryer
MESSAGE: Hi! Does any one know if there is any value to portable Maytag Washer & Dryer. They were purchased in 1974 and both do work They are green, in excellent condition and have instruction manuels with them.
The model numbers are:
Maytag Porta-Washer, Model A50 Maytag Dryer Model DE50
If anyone has ANY information I would really appreciater hearing from you! Thanks so much! Donna
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Post# 30475-6/21/2003-11:44 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Speed Queen with electronic controls
MESSAGE: I don't have a picture, but I have seen them. The local Western Auto store had a pair on display some years ago.
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Post# 30476-6/21/2003-12:19 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Speed Queen with electronic controls (DADoES.....)
MESSAGE: About the Speed Queens with electronic controls.......... if I am not mistaking, I think that these were introduced either in the late 1980's or the sometime during the early/mid 1990's. I think I have seen these around here in D. C. during that time as well.
If I am not mistaking, I think Sears was carrying these as well. It had to be right around 1986 or after, when Sears has began their "Brand Central" format. Speed Queen (and Amana) was one of the first brands they began carrying at that time.
Do you think that "THAT" Speed Queen electronic pair was the pair that Amana has modeled their first (and only) electronics from later on???
--Charles--
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Post# 30477-6/21/2003-14:49 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Speed Queen with electronic controls (my speed queen dryer)
MESSAGE: Thanks!! You answered a remaining question too with this picture. I was wondering if the dryer was electronic too. Did you have problems with it?
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Post# 30478-6/21/2003-16:08 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: Goin To Get Grammy's Kenmore
MESSAGE: Guys,
I would really like to be able to get the Kenmore that is on e-bay. I would like to not be over bid on it . I know that some of you here have expressed an interest in it...but I would like to be give the opportunity first. I have space and it will be paired with a matching dryer that I found in Battle Creek just this last Thursday.
Thanks
Chad
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Post# 30479-6/21/2003-16:08 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: Goin To Get Grammy's Kenmore
MESSAGE: Guys,
I would really like to be able to get the Kenmore that is on e-bay. I would like to not be over bid on it . I know that some of you here have expressed an interest in it...but I would like to be give the opportunity first. I have space and it will be paired with a matching dryer that I found in Battle Creek just this last Thursday.
Thanks
Chad
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Post# 30480-6/21/2003-20:26 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Goin To Get Grammy's Kenmore (Buy it Now for $65.00)
MESSAGE: Chad,
Are you talking about the hardley used Kenmore that has the buy it now for $65.00?
I think that $65.00 more than a great price for this machine. Why don't you Buy It Now for the $65.00, and then you won't have to worry about it anymore.
I am sure that lot's of people have interest in this machine that are not in our club here, and are waiting like you to bid on it the last minute.
Also, if someone tells this seller that this machine is worth more, she can pull it from Ebay if there are no bids on it. If you buy it now, she has to go with the sale.
Gee, I hope that you are talking about the Kenmore with the drop down cover on the controls. It is a very nice machine.
Brent
Brent
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Post# 30481-6/22/2003-20:00 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: Busy Weekend
MESSAGE: FINALLY! A DRY, SUNNY WEEKEND!
I spent the majority of it transplanting the 1-18 gas and electric dryer bodies.
It was definitely not as easy as doing a washer. Worked from about 11 am until 9:30 pm on Saturday. I finally quit when I couldn't see anymore. I did finish the gas dryer last night.
The poppy set is the one I won on e-bay last August. The dryer was electric. The washer worked (according to the owner) but needed a new timer. He gave me the washer for free.
About a month ago, I won a white 1-18 gas dryer on e-bay.
Sunday, I pulled out the Kenmore set, dragged in the gas dryer and hooked it up to the gas line. It ran just fine.
Next, I did a head transplant on the washer. Actually had a matching control panel that matched the dryer.
Made the final connections to the washer and sent Rhinnie into the house to round up some laundry. Washer ran fine, except for spinning. It was a little on the slow side, but like magic, it revved up and now is working fine. It may be because it hadn't been used in a few years.
The dryer did a great job, too. The huge drum is great for permanent press. So much room.
Hope all is well in Applianceville.
Steve 1-18
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Post# 30482-6/22/2003-20:01 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Busy Weekend (Oops! Forgot the link!)
MESSAGE: Oops! Forgot the link!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/svb14_2003/lst?.dir=/June+2003+Part+2&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/&.view=t
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Post# 30483-6/22/2003-20:43 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: Another new Member 1979 Frig
MESSAGE: another new mamber of the household needs a paint job
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/oldappliancenut/lst?&.dir=/79+frig&.src=ph&.view=t&start=1&.rand=62314115715
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Post# 30484-6/22/2003-20:51 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: GE pullout dishwasher new member in home
MESSAGE: just got her today works pretty good too..
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/oldappliancenut/lst?&.dir=/ge+Dishwasher&.src=ph&.view=t&start=1&.rand=62315023903
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Post# 30485-6/22/2003-21:19 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: Maytag Question
MESSAGE: AN502 This is the model Number of the maytag machine would like to know the year it is Please
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Post# 30486-6/22/2003-22:20 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: Sixties Whirlpool Washer
MESSAGE: Sixties Whirlpool Washer
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2330991424&category=42233
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Post# 30487-6/22/2003-22:28 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Another new Member 1979 Frig
MESSAGE: Ah yes, the old "keys in the lid switch" trick. Cool Frigidaires dude. You still live in PA? I'm headin up to Knoebels in a few months.
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Post# 30488-6/22/2003-22:28 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Another new Member 1979 Frig
MESSAGE: Ah yes, the old "keys in the lid switch" trick. Cool Frigidaires dude. You still live in PA? I'm headin up to Knoebels in a few months.
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Post# 30489-6/22/2003-22:31 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Sixties Whirlpool Washer (CLEAN)
MESSAGE: That's a clean machine. Don't need no restoration, just plug and play.
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Post# 30490-6/22/2003-22:32 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: Another new Member 1979 Frig (yup)
MESSAGE: yup i'm still in PA
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Post# 30491-6/23/2003-00:20 ||| Bill-MO (Brookline Station, MO)
SUBJECT: POD-Frigidaire W&D with storage space
MESSAGE: Hey Steve...Thanks for the POD...I remember when my father was working for a junior college, I went into the library to look at all the 1960's & 1970's back issues of magazines...the first time I saw a pic of the POD, I thought I was dreaming...I wanted my parents to have one so badly, but they always insisted on having a GE pair. My mom to this day still wishes she had her Mini-Basket washer. I also remember seeing pics in Life magazine about the rare GE Combo Sink/Washer, thinking that it was so neat to have something like that as well.
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Post# 30492-6/23/2003-02:29 ||| windycitybear (Chicago)
SUBJECT: Hey JasonL How bad do you want a Kenmore 800 Pair in Green?
MESSAGE: I just saw a beautiful set here in Chicago at a House sale. They look to me to be early 70s. They are still unsold $300 for the pair. They look like brand new not in a damp basement but on a first floor service porch. Let me know I will buy them for you. If I had a place to put them I would get them myself.
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Post# 30493-6/23/2003-03:12 ||| Foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Busy Weekend
MESSAGE: Quite a job you did there but it paid off. That's a wonderful set. Hope all is well with you too.
Louis
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Post# 30494-6/23/2003-06:35 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: Greetings
MESSAGE: All together now:
Happy birthday to you!
Happy birthday to you!
Happy birthday to Appnut
Happy birthday to you!
Best wishes, Bob
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Post# 30495-6/23/2003-07:23 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Greetings
MESSAGE: Happy Birthday, Bobby Bear!!!
Since you're over 20 years old, we'll skip vintage
and call you a "classic"!!! Have a great birthday! Todd
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Post# 30496-6/23/2003-08:25 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Greetings
MESSAGE: Happy Birthday Bob!
I hope you have a great day, and do something nice for yourself!
Best Wishes!
Brent
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Post# 30497-6/23/2003-08:29 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Greetings (Happy Birthday!!)
MESSAGE: Happy Birthday
And Happy Washing
Peter
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Post# 30498-6/23/2003-08:34 ||| laundromat (florida)
SUBJECT: maytag washwer dryer combination bank on ebay
MESSAGE: There is a Maytag washer/dryer combinaion coin bank up for bids on ebay!!!!!!!!!!!item number is 3614856825.
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Post# 30499-6/23/2003-09:25 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Another new Member 1979 Frig
MESSAGE: Beautiful 1-18, but that is not a '79... More like a '70-73, judging by the control panel graphics... Great machine!
-ph
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Post# 30500-6/23/2003-09:26 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Greetings
MESSAGE: Happy Birthday, Bob!
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Post# 30501-6/23/2003-10:08 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Greetings
MESSAGE: And another Happy Birthday!
Bear Hugz,
Luigi
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Post# 30502-6/23/2003-11:04 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Greetings
MESSAGE: I second that wish, Bob - be kind to yourself today!!
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Post# 30503-6/23/2003-11:43 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Greetings (yay)
MESSAGE: Happy Birthday BOB!!!
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Post# 30504-6/23/2003-12:30 ||| geodon2000 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Greetings (make it a "
bob load"
day...)
MESSAGE: happy birthday, bob...
from, da bearz...
geo & jeffy
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Post# 30505-6/23/2003-14:19 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Greetings (make it a )
MESSAGE: Hi Bob, Be sure an add me to that list wishing you a very HAPPY BIRTHDAY!! Hope that you are doing great and having a very special day. Terry
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Post# 30506-6/23/2003-14:40 ||| bendix5 (oregon)
SUBJECT: Happy Birthday
MESSAGE: Bob,
A great big Happy Birthday to you. Hope your year comes with great health, some wealth and a big new automatic washing machine. Cheers
Bendix5 (dan)
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Post# 30507-6/23/2003-16:21 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: Natal anniversary greetings!
MESSAGE: A most happy birthday to Bobbie, and a Bob-load of happiness all year!!!
Rich
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Post# 30508-6/23/2003-18:08 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: GE pullout dishwasher new member in home (Congratulations)
MESSAGE: I conversed back & forth with Oopagirl re: this dishwasher. I sure wanted it but decided to wait it out; knowing of a few local pull out dishwashers that in time, will come for sale. My dream is to have a GE or Westinghouse pull out dishwasher & in time I will have one. Again , congratulations & I am very pleased to see a member of Applianceville get this great machine. It's the distance to "go fetch or ship" that made my decision for me. Too far. I sure hope to see a few pic's of her finished instalation. Enjoy, Michael
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Post# 30509-6/23/2003-18:37 ||| minijim (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: Todays POD
MESSAGE: SactoTeddyBear - I love the washer and dryer. Is that your groovy loft? I haven't seen the storage unit on top before. Had a great time at the Library this weekend. I was looking at old magazines from the 50' and 60's for "new" models. Got to keep up to date. I'll never know as much as you guys. For me its like looking at vintage cars. Great lines and great chrome.
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Post# 30510-6/23/2003-19:00 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: Classic Australian Washing machine
MESSAGE: I have NEVER seen or heard of one of these before!
Its looks like a very interesting and unusaul design.
And it is located about an hour North of Melbourne.
Hey Gizmo, fancy another washing machine?
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3230295395&category=82
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Post# 30511-6/23/2003-20:08 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Australian Washing machine
MESSAGE: That puppy is sooo ugly it's cute! I would love to see more pix and find out how it worked!
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Post# 30512-6/24/2003-00:32 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy Birthday
MESSAGE: Best wishes Bob!
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Post# 30513-6/24/2003-00:34 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Busy Weekend (Oops! Forgot the link!)
MESSAGE: Excellent work Steve - you're ready to tear into that unimatic now!
That Poppy set is really pretty - probably my first choice of 70's colors, congrats on a completed set.
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Post# 30514-6/24/2003-00:45 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Todays POD (Re: Frigidaire Washer and Dryer w/ Storage Cabinet's: )
MESSAGE: Hi! I certainly wish I did have a house like that, with a Loft for my Washer and Dryer "and" to have that particular Matched Frigidaire Set, along with several other Models and several other Brands of Washer and Dryer's to "Play" with and change around.
Regards, Steve
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Post# 30515-6/24/2003-00:46 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Question
MESSAGE: 1964 - a Super Highlander washer
Does this washer have a small diamond shaped indicator light over the dial?
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Post# 30516-6/24/2003-00:46 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GE pullout dishwasher new member in home
MESSAGE: That is very cool and a fabulous color too!
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Post# 30517-6/24/2003-00:48 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Another new Member 1979 Frig (1971)
MESSAGE: Looks similar, if not exactly like the 1971 model I found a couple of months ago...now deceased.
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Post# 30518-6/24/2003-00:55 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD-Frigidaire W&D with storage space (Re: Frigidaire Washer and Dryer w/Storage Cabinet's:)
MESSAGE: Hey! I know what you mean, I grew up in basically a Kenmore Family for Washer's and Dryer', but my Parent's did have a 1959 Hotpoint Washer and a 1962 Hotpoint E-Dryer and a 1966 Frigidaire Custom Deluxe Washer, among the Kenmore's. Basically a lot of my Relatives had GE Washer's and Dryer's, as with Kitchen GE Appliances too.
Redards, Steve
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Post# 30519-6/24/2003-01:00 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Australian Washing machine
MESSAGE: This is too cool - someone must rescue it...
Would this have been an original Aus. design?
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Post# 30520-6/24/2003-01:02 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: Re: "Happy" Birthday" Bob:
MESSAGE: "Happy Birthday" Bob, I hope that you had a great, special day and that your wish comes True, of your "Dream" Washer and Dryer, whichever Brand and Model they may be.
My best to you of your day, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...
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Post# 30521-6/24/2003-03:18 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: 1957 Bendix Combination Washer-dryer (Insurance question)
MESSAGE: Sounds like having to choose an "interim" washer and dryer would be about as much fun as going to a funeral home to choose a casket for a loved one. I know I would not want to lose my GE Filter-Flo. Not much of a thrill after a disaster, I'm sure!
MrCoffee
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Post# 30522-6/24/2003-03:47 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Australian Washing machine
MESSAGE: Wow, what a machine! Looks like an H-axis machine. I guess that the part of the front was used instead of a doorseal. During the wash there must have been water in there. Maybe even sometimes a laundry item would get in there. It must be rather difficult to unload this machine. Thanks for posting, I had never seen something like this before.
Louis
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Post# 30523-6/24/2003-06:32 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: Kenmore Automatic Washer Model 21900 VGC
MESSAGE: Kenmore Automatic Washer Model 21900 VGC
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2330147242&category=42232
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Post# 30524-6/24/2003-06:50 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Automatic Washer Model 21900 VGC (Program Computer)
MESSAGE: Has Program Computer bought this washing machine?
I was thinking you were going to take the Buy me now option, correct me if I am wrong.
This is to smashing a machine to let go to waste...
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Post# 30525-6/24/2003-06:53 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: 1957 Bendix Combination Washer-dryer (Insurance question)
MESSAGE: I reckon playing around with something like the New Neptune TL could be somewhat amusing.
I rather think that it would be exciting!
BUT if you were in a disaster i guess the prospect of a cheapo GE would be rather ghastly
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Post# 30526-6/24/2003-07:47 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Australian Washing machine
MESSAGE: Oh no!
I would love that machine but I haven't got the room or the time. I have seen something like this before. The one I saw was on the kerbside about ten years ago. It saw was quite tall and the back was off so I could check out the works. It has a simple belt drive, one belt drives the drum direct (spin) and one belt drives the drum through a reduction gear (tumble). It switches between the two speeds by engaging a lever which tensions one belt and releases the other. It is fully manual, you empty it by opening a tap underneath. I tried to pick it up but it was so heavy I couldn't even move it, let alone put it in the car.
I have also seen another Nasco washer, a slightly more modern machine with a glass front porthole door but still fully manual operation. On this later one the drain tap just stuck out the front under the porthole, no hose attachment so you would have to empty it into a bucket. This one was REALLY rough condition and too many years ago when I was not yet collecting.
This Ebay one looks fun but it's not for me.
Chris.
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Post# 30527-6/24/2003-08:46 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Australian Washing machine (Cool Vintage Aussie Washer)
MESSAGE: Wow, what a neat looking vintage washer. I like the idea of the chute to load in the wash. I wonder if its difficult to unload or does that entire chute assembly open for unloading?
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Post# 30528-6/24/2003-16:31 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: Not Going to Get Grammy's Kenmore
MESSAGE: Guys,
Due to unforseen circumstnaces (i.e.not being able to secure a vehicle to move it with) and a "knock back to reality" with a very minor fender bender on my car three days ago, and a lifemate with other ideas on the issue. I will not be able to get the Kenmore at this time.
So hopefully someone else will rescue it. I wish I could but I cannot.
Since we own the house together and he does have "half" the say..Martin said absolutly NO more washers until we get the basement finished. He did bring up a good point that my 1967 Lady Kenmores that I "had to keep" are sitting in my mom's basement and a set of 1978 Frigidaires that we "can't even use" are sitting idle in the laundry room. And a third set of Westinghouse's "In the VERY same laundry room" that we use everyday are allready in there.
Chad, do you really NEED that 1975 Lady Kenmore?
Yes, but signs point to NO!
So I guess i'll have to forefeit this time...Sorry
Chad
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Post# 30529-6/24/2003-17:04 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: 1965 LK set
MESSAGE: There may be an opportunity for someone to purchase a 1965 greatly modified Lady Kenmore set here in the Atlanta area. This is the same set that Bruce got a little while ago. The set is white, the washer has a transplant for extral large capacity with a Dual Action agitator, the dryer needs a motor transplant.
Email me if you are interested...
-ph
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Post# 30530-6/24/2003-17:58 ||| Sqbackye (Phoenix, Arizona)
SUBJECT: Late 50's/early 60's Westinghouse Commercial Laundromat
MESSAGE: I recently acquired a nice Westinghouse Commercial Laundromat from my wife's family cabin. The cabin was built in 1966 and I believe the washer has been in it since. It came from a family friend who owned a laundromat and was updating their equipment, and gave the Westinghouse to my wife's family. It still works, although a bit crazy when spinning, but I've never seen any literature on it. It requires one dime for a full wash, and the model number is: RCM-5 Style: Q72435. Anyone have any info on this washer? Thanks!
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Post# 30531-6/24/2003-21:11 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Kelvinator with Wedgewood Trim
MESSAGE: In a sea of white on white appliances in the stores today, wouldn't this be a thrill...
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3614769407&category=35
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Post# 30532-6/25/2003-01:22 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: Thrift store shazam!
MESSAGE: I have been going to this thrift store for years because they have a used appliance center. Occasionaly I will stop bye and stroll thru hopping to find the laundry set of my dreams, only to be slapped in the face with the tons of older DAA Kenmores and Whirlpools, with an older maytag here and there,very boring to say the least, until today!
Today there were 2 Westinghouse Spacemate washers in white and nearly mint! Next to that was a GE stackable that looked more like an old Hooover pair than anything GE. And if that wasn't enough, an older Kenmore pair in Avacado next to a top opening Whirlpool dishwasher with rear console. Had some collector liquidated his collection? The Westinghouses were marked $200 each and they looked brand new. I looked them over very carefully and noted how clean they were. The GE stackable was beige and marked $200. The washer was the type with the bi-fold lid and rear mounted "bed-of-nails" lint filter. The matching dryer also appeard to be ib great shape as it sat on the matching stand. The Avacado Kenmores were in Ok shape, never saw one with a copper control panel, but it looked just like the one Larry bought a while back, just in Avacodo. $125 for the washer, $75 for the dryer. And finally that whirlpool dish washer. Big crome handle on the front and the top rack split as you raised the lid. One metal spray arm at the bottom and a plastic one in the center. Control panel was a little faded, but overall in decent shape for $125.00.
If I didn't already own a fridgemore I would have picked up one of the Westinghouses, they truely looked like they had been in a time bubble and to find 2 in the same "like new" shape! Wow!
-Alex
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Post# 30533-6/25/2003-04:15 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinator with Wedgewood Trim (but no window)
MESSAGE: What good is a Kelvi with no window? It's still a Kelvi and there's always plexiglass but it's nice to have a window.
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Post# 30534-6/25/2003-04:58 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinator with Wedgewood Trim
MESSAGE: OMG!!!! I've seen a lot of Wedgewood stuff in that design on fleamarkets lately. No I know what it's for, decorating the laundryroom!
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Post# 30535-6/25/2003-05:25 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: Siemens toploading dryers
MESSAGE: Fisher & Paykel are claiming they are the first company to bring out a toploading dryer matching a toploading washer. I thought that was rubbish and asked a German collector if he had anything on it. He started collecting brochures long before I even thought of it. He sent me this scan (thank you Uwe!) I think these washers and dryers are from the seventies, at least they look like that. After this pic there is a scan from a 2001 Brandt brochure with their toploading dryers. Fisher & Paykel, eat your heart out!
Louis
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/vwp?.dir=/Toploading+dryers&.dnm=Siemens2.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 30536-6/25/2003-05:47 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Siemens toploading dryers (those machines are tiny!)
MESSAGE: I wonder how much laundry one of those can do.
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Post# 30537-6/25/2003-07:56 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT: RE: ALWAYS LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE OF LIFE (Packard!!! -off topic, I know!-old stove and fridge, Westinghouse, etc.)
MESSAGE: Chad,
It is SO cool that your family has a '56 Packard Patrician. I believe that is the model just underneath the TOL Caribbean(my SO is Puerto Rican- it'd be neat someday to have a Caribbean to go with his heritage- they are pretty pricey these days.) coupe and convert. I also believe it was the last year for "real" Packards; they became rebadged Studebakers after that. I'd love to hear more sometime about the car. Write me at Wireman2222@hotmail.com
I also had White/Westinghouse (white) spacemates up on Beaver Island in a house I rented for 3 years. Probably from the late 70's when the cottage was built. They didn't take a very big load, but worked well. God knows I ran some FILTHY work clothes through them! I was in the house a few months ago; I hated to see that the washer was developing rust around the window.
I would've posted sooner, but I was up on Beaver Island working. I did get to see a cool old 50's Hotpoint stove(pushbutton burner controls and the deep well cooker.) and an old Frigidaire ref. while on a service call (I'm an electrician). They were in an old cottage on Lake Michigan that has yet to be torn down or gentrified. No washer onsite- don't know what they did before we finally got a laundromat(all front loaders- less waste water to treat!) up there. Probably took the clothes out to the lake and beat them over a rock!
Take Care,
Duane
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Post# 30538-6/25/2003-12:45 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: Re: Magic Chef Washer and E-Dryer Mates:
MESSAGE: Hi! Club Friend's, I just bought an approximate Mid-80s Magic Chef Washer and Dryer on E-Bay and the person only lives
1-hour Drive away for me to get them this weekend. They look quite a lot similar to my Brother's Admiral Set that he bought new through M.Wards around the Mid-80s, except for the Console's being a little different, but they all seem to have the same Chrome-Look Control Knobs. I'm hoping that the Washer has the "Burp-UP" Lint Filtering, but it is probably new enough to have a Self-Clean Lint-Filtering System, oh well. I got them on E-Bay for $10.00/both Machines, what a deal for me. I did the "Buy Now" purchase and can't wait to get them this coming weekend. I will be glad when I can get a Digital Camera, so I can share my finds as well as you other Club Members are able to do, maybe some day soon...
Best Regards, SactoTeddyBear...
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Post# 30539-6/25/2003-13:22 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Ariel comes to Minnesota/tabs a passing fancy?
MESSAGE: After driving a co-worker home the other night whose car is in repair, I stopped at a suburban sister location of my usual grocery chain. There I saw for the first time in a local store, Ariel powder (in a box, not in a bag). I also saw boxes of "Purex Classic" powder (big, old fashioned type boxes), and of course all the usual liquids.
However, there were only two boxes of Purex tabs and a few Wisk tabs. I bought the 2 boxes of Purex tabs as they were on sale. The last two Targets I've been to had no detergent in tab form at all. I'm beginning to wonder if the current incarnation of tabs is going the way of Salvo? Though I'm really hoping not since I am very accustomed to using them and really enjoy them.
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Post# 30540-6/25/2003-15:07 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Ariel comes to Minnesota/tabs a passing fancy?
MESSAGE: Scott, I hope the tabs don't go away I really like them. If you go to Purex wed site, you can download coupon.
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Post# 30541-6/25/2003-17:39 ||| Gman47 (INDIANAPOLIS)
SUBJECT: SPIRALATOR
MESSAGE: I AM SHEARCH OF A SPIRALATOR FOR A SPINDRIER MODEL# SDK SERIAL#2413 IF YOU NEED MORE INFO PLEASE CONTACT ME
LIQUORMAN47@AOL.COM
GARY PAYNE
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Post# 30542-6/25/2003-18:03 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: RE: ALWAYS LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE OF LIFE (Packard!!! -off topic, I know!-old stove and fridge, Westinghouse, etc.)
MESSAGE: Duane,
Our 1955 Patrician is currently down in South Bend at the Studebaker National Museum. My dad and I "donated" (i'll explain that more in a minute) so it would be in a good home.
He and I do NOT have time for it...but we wanted to keep it in the family but not have to worry about storage. Basically if we claim donation to the museum they pay for it's upkeep,insurance and etc..but we do NOT sign over the title. We still have ownership..but we have to leave it there for a period of 1 years up to lifetime if we choose.
I misyeared the car as well. It's actually a 55'. Yeah it was under the Caribbean and equal to the 400. It's a big boy and drives like a dream..but...another reason we did donate it is because the "transmission" is kinda weak and if we drove it all the time it would just crap itself and then we'd have to dump more moohlah into it. I'm kinda car dumb so go with me on the color it's kinda a bronzish reddish copper color..with LOADS of chrome. Beige and brown interior and a dash that Ralph Nader would have had a field day over.
On to the Appliances...
Yes my Westinghouse is havin a bit of a rust problem at the bottom of the look in door. I sanded it down and put a thin layer of bondo sanded it smooth, and spray painted it with a rust inhibitor paint and just starting to notice that it's showing again. I did this about 1 1/2 years ago so....
I was looking into replacing the door entirely but am concerned that Frigidaire has completely dumped all stock on the older models. so Maybe I'll have to look for a donor door...Probably with the same problem. I've shoved many things into that washer that I shouldn't have . Car rugs, rugs from the house..comforters that should have went into a triple loader...shoes,boots,winter coats,drapes,beadspreads, shoprags,a whole tent that had mildewed and all washed perfectly I thought. I have been the hardest on this washer than any other appliance I have ever owned. And it's served me well. And it states that it WAS built in Mansfield Ohio, just not by Westinghouse..by then it was White-West.
Cool that you are an electrician. I wish i would have known about you about 8 months ago when my laundryroom was remodeled and made ready for 2 sets of machines. That part of the house is actually on top of a crawl space...because it was added about 1994 or so JUST before I bought the house as a first floor laundry and pantry off the kitchen..so we had to crawl under there...GROSS YUCK PHEWEY...to do the piping and the electrical...that was a chore but it all worked out anyway.
Yours
Chad
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Post# 30543-6/25/2003-18:27 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Purex tabs great but...
MESSAGE: You gotta make sure that they dissolve completely before putting clothes in or they'll leave white spots on your clothes. How do you do that in a front loader. Well, on the Frigemore you gotta set it to "heavy" so it will flll and tumble at the same time. Otherwise they're awesome and HE compatible.
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Post# 30544-6/25/2003-18:50 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: RE: Purex tabs great but...
MESSAGE: I don't have any front loaders,but they work fine in my old Filter-Flo.I just put the tablet in the lint tray,and it dissolves pronto when the machine shifts to high gear. In the 61 Whirlpool I Place the tablet in the Magic Mix lint filter,and watch it "snow" through the glass window when the machine starts.I love the Purex myself.I think the quality of the water being used has a lot to do with cleaning performance.Water temp is important too. I almost never use a cold wash.I value my clothes,and the machines too much for that. Rick R.
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Post# 30545-6/25/2003-22:40 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: Sixties Whirlpool Washer
MESSAGE: Sixties Whirlpool Washer
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2330991424&category=42233
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Post# 30546-6/25/2003-23:25 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Sixties Whirlpool Washer
MESSAGE: That's a great machine with the see through Magic Mix filter, in very nice condition.
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Post# 30547-6/25/2003-23:41 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: 71 (?) Sears
MESSAGE: The Lady Kenmore Sears washer is back on auction again, the buy it now down to $45. Hope someone can get it! I think it is a '71 since it still has the metal handle on the lid. I'm thinking that may have been the first year of the console cover too, I know there were some made without. I wonder if it has the plain buttons or the ones with the colored stripes on the bottom.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=42232&item=2331592807
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Post# 30548-6/26/2003-00:02 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: Some Laundry Humor, to "Brighten" everyone's Spirit's":
MESSAGE: Hi! Club Friend's, I thought that this would give everyone a good Laugh and "Brighten" everyone's "Spirit's" as well. I hope that you anjoy this.
My best to everyone, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...
> Subject: > Men and Laundry...
> > > Men and Laundry...
> > >
> > > One day my housework-challenged husband, decided to
> > > wash his sweatshirt.
> > >
> > > Seconds after he stepped into the laundry room, he
> > > shouted to me, "What setting do I use on the washing machine?"
> > >
> > > It depends," I replied. "What does it say on your shirt?"
> > > He yelled back, "Dallas Cowboys"
> > >
> > > And they say blondes are dumb.
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Post# 30549-6/26/2003-03:06 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Siemens toploading dryers (those machines are tiny!)
MESSAGE: Jason,
These machines can dry 4kg of laundry so that is a little more than 9lbs. I think that is quite a lot considering the size of them. I would LOVE to get my hands on a matching set of those.
Louis
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Post# 30550-6/26/2003-05:18 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Ariel comes to Minnesota/tabs a passing fancy?
MESSAGE: I have noticed that the nearest KMart and Wal Mart stores carry almost nothing in the way of powders or tabs anymore. Almost all of the shelf space is devoted to liquids. The only powders on the shelves are Tide regular, Dreft and Purex. Also, the KMart has a clearance section with boxes of Surf Tabs marked down from $5.00 to $4.00 (some sale!!). Also neither store carries any of the Surf powders anymore, and neither do the major grocery stores in my area and there is not a Fab product on any shelves anywhere - liquid or powder. Hmmmm........
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Post# 30551-6/26/2003-06:17 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: put 2 Frigidaire washers up for sale guyz
MESSAGE: my 2 Frigidaire's are up for sale just wanted to let everyone know
http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/oldappliancenut/lst?.dir=/79+frig&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/oldappliancenut/lst?.dir=/Frigidaire&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/
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Post# 30552-6/26/2003-06:49 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Some Laundry Humor, to "Brighten" everyone's Spirit's":
MESSAGE: Women can be pretty cruel. Not all men are stupid monkeys like most women would like to believe.
Damn women.
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Post# 30553-6/26/2003-06:50 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Siemens toploading dryers (those machines are tiny!)
MESSAGE: Yeah. That's pretty good. Like a standard load in a 50s Frigidiare.
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Post# 30554-6/26/2003-07:22 ||| Jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Kenmore Washer on Ebay
MESSAGE: Does anyone know if this machine has 3 speeds, and what options are listed on the push-buttons? Thanks, Don
LINK: http://CLICK HERE TO GO TO Don's LINK
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Post# 30555-6/26/2003-07:31 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Australian Washing machine (Cool Vintage Aussie Washer)
MESSAGE: I dont know.
I sure hope someone rescues it. I wish I could but I am moving into a flat on the weekend and dont even have a garage for my car :(
Its such a cute washing machine.
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Post# 30556-6/26/2003-07:37 ||| RE563 (Ft. Lauderdale)
SUBJECT: RE: put 2 Frigidaire washers up for sale guyz (frididaire washer up for sale)
MESSAGE: Very much interested--would like to see the photos of the other one up for sale. If you could e-mail me and the asking price for each. E-mail to RE563@aol.com
Thanks so very much
Robert
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Post# 30557-6/26/2003-09:00 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Australian Washing machine (Cool Vintage Aussie Washer)
MESSAGE: Hi arrrooohhh
The pressure is immense....
Sorry, not this one.
The chute is fixed, in reality it didn't seem as poky to get into as it looks in the photo. The one I saw didn't have that lid on top of the chute, though it may have beeen missing.
Chris.
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Post# 30558-6/26/2003-11:30 ||| keymatic (Surrey.U.K)
SUBJECT: RE: SPIRALATOR
MESSAGE: Hi Gary
I remeber that you were the winning bid on this appliance on Ebay.
Is the machine working o.k, I live in the UK, and was going to bid for it but was a bit weary, not knowing whether it was going to work or not.
Gook luck with finding the "Spiralator"
Keith
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Post# 30559-6/26/2003-12:22 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: 71 (?) Sears (Scott......)
MESSAGE: Hello Scott:
Maybe I can answer your question. The Lady Kenmore that you see re-listed on "e-bay" is a 1969-71 model. It is a three speed model with the Vari-Flex agitator inside of it. More than likely (though, I could be wrong), it is probably the one with the push buttons with the colored bars either on the top or the bottom of them, which are dependent on how they are positioned on the control panel. The 1972 model was the first one that didn't have the metal handle on the lid. The 1972 was also the first one that had the plain push buttons on it (though it still had the Vari-Flex agitator and the three speed motor). The finally did away with the three speed motor and the Vari-Flex agitator in the 1974-75 model (also coincidently, that was also the last model with the slide down console cover).
--Charles--
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Post# 30560-6/26/2003-14:11 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: MUSIC FOR COOKING WITH GAS
MESSAGE: music that's rare & well done! Produced by Caloric Corp. Topton, Pa....
not a year in sight on this Lp or sleeve either one...but the cover DOES feature the wall oven version of the gas Ultramatic oven, as well as a counter top installation of the same unit..also a double oven with cooktop version in some color of blue I don't rightly know the name of..
Could this thing be as early as '57, I wonder?...the Lp label looks that way, but it's a capitol custom, turquoise green with silver print...so I'd say no later than '62 or '64. Hi-Fi only. (not stereo) Anyone wanna see or hear this thing? It has Moon River on it, so what year was that? It's fun, once every 20 years or so...
B
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Post# 30561-6/26/2003-15:26 ||| jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: 1-18 Dryer Question
MESSAGE: When Jimmy was here, we hooked up the 1-18 (DG1) gas dryer, and determined it needed a coil kit as it wouldn't ignite. We went to several appliance shops, but it was no longer available. Anybody have any ideas where I might find one? Thanks!
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Post# 30562-6/26/2003-16:15 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 71 (?) Sears (Scott......)
MESSAGE: Thanks Charles. I had thought the colored buttons were after the plain, but I guess it was reversed. I remember that last model. Jon LeFever has one, except it has a Whirlpool agitator. The timer is different with the markings on the machine rather than the dial itself. I always hang onto the memory of that one, not knowing at the time what design travesty and blandness lay ahead...
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Post# 30563-6/26/2003-16:25 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: MUSIC FOR COOKING WITH GAS
MESSAGE: Bob, I had the "smaller" version of that. It was the size of a 45 but played at 33 1/3 in hi fi! Mine included Moon River (and maybe Green Sleaves (?) but the album cover was of a womans head in full makeup of course. She was gazing lovingly at a four burner range top. I haven't seen that thing in years. I will have to launch a search asap!
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Post# 30564-6/26/2003-16:27 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: latest finds
MESSAGE: more pics to share ... ... happy 4th everyone ...
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gregm978/lst?.view=t&.dir=/latest+...+...
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Post# 30565-6/26/2003-16:29 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: 71 (?) Sears (Scott......)
MESSAGE: Now I'm confused! We had the "Sears Best" version of this washer, is that different than the "Lady"? Our harvest gold set had the same control panal, but no color on the buttons and no drop down door. The dryer is still in use in FL, the washer went to the big appliance store in the sky somewhere around 1995.
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Post# 30566-6/26/2003-17:03 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: 71 (?) Sears (Comboboy......)
MESSAGE: "Comboboy":
No.... it probably isn't any different from the 1969-71 Lady which I have just described to "Scott". Yours was probably either the 1966-67 models that the Keatons had in their house when the "Family Ties" series was running on television, or it was the "Feminine Engineered" 1968 models with the slightly taller control panel (a design I wasn't too crazy about). Gold appliances were in existence during the 1960s. Either of those had to be the case since the Lady's were in fact the "Sears Best" models.
Now....... from the late 1960s up until about 1971 (or maybe even 1972....... but I don't know for sure. I don't have a 1972 Sears Catalog to confirm), there was a model that was a step down from the Lady Kenmore that also had the identical control panel that the Lady Kenmores from that era have had. And like the Lady Kenmores of that era, that model has also had 14 push buttons (two rows of seven just like the Lady Kenmore), a Vari-Flex agitator, a detergent dispenser and a lighted console. But the difference between that model and the Lady was that the step down model had a two speed motor as opposed to the Lady having a three speed motor. And also...... during the 1969-71 run, the Lady model of that era was the only one that had the drop down cover. The step down model did not have a drop down cover. Maybe that was the #2 model that you've had. And if that's the case, it couldn't have been a "Sears Best" model either, since the Lady Kenmores were the only machines to carry that label and have that distinction.
So then........ in saying that then, then maybe perhaps, your Ladys were from the mid-to-late 1960s
--Charles--
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Post# 30567-6/26/2003-17:06 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: latest finds
MESSAGE: Very nice Greg! Good to "see" you and thanks for sharing! :-)
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Post# 30568-6/26/2003-19:21 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: latest finds (What a collection Greg!)
MESSAGE: Greg,
Thanks for the great pictures.
I am in love with the style of your 1961 Frigidaire Washer! What a great looking machine! Have you run it yet? Do you know by chance what the spin speed is of that model?
I also love your Kitchen Aid Top Loading Dishwasher! I bet that is fun to hear run! Is that a cast iron lower spray arm?
You are building such a collection of beautiful machines!
Where are the pictures of the Westy twins that you won on Ebay? I would love to see those.
Thanks once again for the pictures!
Brent
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Post# 30569-6/26/2003-20:47 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: latest finds (latest finds)
MESSAGE: Greg
Love the set
Happy Washing
Peter
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Post# 30570-6/27/2003-00:21 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Siemens toploading dryers
MESSAGE: Thanks for the scans, always interesting to see the Euro machines. These top loading dryers are quite interesting - I suppose for space considerations, the stacking front washer and dryer sets were more popular but what a cool idea. I'm surprised nothing like this caught on over here since "we" seem to have always been so afraid of bending and stooping... ;-)
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Post# 30571-6/27/2003-00:24 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: put 2 Frigidaire washers up for sale guyz
MESSAGE: These are very cool finds Brian, have you tried the dryer? How does the filtrator work for you? Do you still have your Kenmore combo? Wish you were closer - sorry to keep missing your calls, working nights bites!
Take care - Greg
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Post# 30572-6/27/2003-00:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: MUSIC FOR COOKING WITH GAS
MESSAGE: I wanna hear it! Have you seen the albums (much later of course) that Amana used to sponsor? I have one but can't get my super-duper turntable to function now...
Greg
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Post# 30573-6/27/2003-00:29 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1-18 Dryer Question
MESSAGE: Did you try Larry at Modern Parts House in Parma, OH? If all else fails, you might try taking it to a HVAC supply house in Minne and see if they have anything that will work for you. Sometimes there are universal coils and valves that will work as a substitute for the original parts. Johnstone or Grainger might be good places to try.
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Post# 30574-6/27/2003-00:31 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: latest finds
MESSAGE: WOW - I love them all!
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Post# 30575-6/27/2003-00:54 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: put 2 Frigidaire washers up for sale guyz (greg)
MESSAGE: yes i still got the combo and yes i tried the dryer but the one belts is bad on the blower so it needs a new one...and the both washer work great
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Post# 30576-6/27/2003-01:04 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities)
SUBJECT: RE: put 2 Frigidaire washers up for sale guyz (I tried to contact you.)
MESSAGE: Unfortunately, your address came up missing. Please post the amount you are asking for each unit, and put some pictures of the other one on your link. Thanks.
MrCoffee
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Post# 30577-6/27/2003-01:36 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: latest finds
MESSAGE: Great finds Greg, congratulations.
Happy washing,
Louis
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Post# 30578-6/27/2003-01:45 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Siemens toploading dryers
MESSAGE: Actually at that time there weren't that many stacking front loading washer and dryer sets that could be stacked, so this was quite a good option for people with lack of space. But they never got popular so after some years I think they disappeared from the market again. For people with real space problems the toploading combos stayed around much longer.
Only later Brandt reintroduced these dryers, I guess they did that especially for the French market where (H-axis) toploaders are very popular. A friend of mine has a toploading set, he has his laundry in a small bathroom under a roof so stacking wasn't an option for him.
Louis
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Post# 30579-6/27/2003-06:34 ||| christfr (st louis mo)
SUBJECT: maytag
MESSAGE: who out there is a maytag expert ?? found a 55 automatic and am having wire problems being that mice had eaten most of them i had to replace the wires and timer now i must have something crossed the poor girl will do everything except agitate and i dont have a proper diagram anyone out there a wire wiz with maytags thanks chris
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Post# 30580-6/27/2003-08:24 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: latest finds
MESSAGE: Hey Greg, great '61 Deluxe Frigidaire by the way. Congrats!
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Post# 30581-6/27/2003-08:25 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: maytag (Wiring Diagram a must!)
MESSAGE: Hi Chris, there is no doubt about it you're going to need the wiring diagram. I know I have one, but everything is packed up and sealed in boxes. We will be moving on 7/5. Hopefully someone else has one to scan for you before then.
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Post# 30582-6/27/2003-08:50 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: maytag (Wiring Diagram a must!)
MESSAGE: Chris,
It should be in your inbox...
Good luck!
Greg
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Post# 30583-6/27/2003-10:35 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: latest finds
MESSAGE: Yes! The 61 Frig is terrific. I hope to see some pics with it up and pulsating soon!
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Post# 30584-6/27/2003-10:41 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT: Today's POD- short cycle
MESSAGE: I noticed that the James DW mentioned in today's stove/DW ad had a cycle of only 10 min!!! I remember hearing that some of the other old DW and most commercial DW have short cycles also. Why is that today's home DW take at least a half hour(usually longer!) to wash those dishes? I'd appreciate any info!
Thanks!
Duane
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Post# 30585-6/27/2003-10:45 ||| salvoboy (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: Filtrator Dryer
MESSAGE: An open question for you Frigidaire guys -
I've always understood the fascination with Frigidaire washers and it's been great to learn more about their history/evolution on the site. My question is about Frigidaire Filtrator dryers in two parts: 1) Was the Filtrator different than other condenser dryers and how? 2) Could you give a brief explanation of how it worked? Was the condensing accomplished by water, by cooler outside air? Have seen some cool pics but don't quite get it. Thanks!
Greg
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Post# 30586-6/27/2003-15:12 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: latest finds (thnx)
MESSAGE: thanks Scott :)
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Post# 30587-6/27/2003-15:19 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: latest finds (What a collection Greg!)
MESSAGE: Thanks Brent, the washer runs but the reset button keeps popping out, especially during agitation and it seems to pop out the same place on the timer, but I am not 100% sure of that. It has an awfully FAST up and down stroke and a shorter one. If I did not know better you would think it was agitating to fast. The turnover is unreal!! I think the spin speed is in the vicinity of 800rpm, but not totally sure. Yes, the Kitchen Aid DW has the cast iron spray arm, this machine does not work at all. I think it needs a new timer, pump and drain pump. The interior has no rust but could definately be reporcelainized. The westy twins I have neglected to take pics of yet, the washer was slightly damaged during shipping and although the exterior of both machines looks good, the interior (not the tub) of the washer is in fair to poor condition, bad hoses, rusted out connections, and missing rubber snubbers. The dryer plays "How dry I am" but needs to be cleaned out, the air flow is terrible. The projects are endless. Glad you liked the pics.
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Post# 30588-6/27/2003-15:20 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: latest finds (latest finds(thnx))
MESSAGE: Thanks Peter !!
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Post# 30589-6/27/2003-15:21 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: latest finds (thnx)
MESSAGE: thanks Greg :)
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Post# 30590-6/27/2003-15:22 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: latest finds (thnx guys !!)
MESSAGE: Thanks Robert, Louis and "lesto" for your comments, glad you guys liked the pics, I feel very lucky to have acquired these machines .........
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Post# 30591-6/27/2003-15:49 ||| bsmntfullosuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: WW2 .45 pistol - barrel by Frigidaire
MESSAGE: One classic appliance I would like to add to my collection!
Originally developed in 1942 for the U.S. Army by the Inland Manufacturing Division of the General Motors Corporation in Dayton Ohio. This single-shot, smooth bore .45 calibre pistol had a dubious history. Intended for mass distribution in enemy occupied territory to incite revolt, the Army refered to it as a "flare pistol" (FP-45) to ensure secrecy.
The Frigidaire plant at Dayton chambered the rough barrels.
Workers at the Guide Lamp plant in Anderson Indiana assembled
a million of these weapons. In Europe the Allied commanders deemed the mass distribution impractical, and very few Liberators were delivered to the resistance forces. Only Chinese forces received many of these weapons and most of them were destroyed.
LINK: http://www.adrax.com/watsons/lib.htm
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Post# 30592-6/27/2003-15:52 ||| bsmntfullosuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: 71 (?) Sears
MESSAGE: Saw a matching dryer in avocado at a thrift store, posted message here a few weeks ago
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Post# 30593-6/27/2003-18:17 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: latest finds (What a collection Greg!)
MESSAGE: Sounds like it's a pulsamatic.
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Post# 30594-6/27/2003-21:31 ||| AndrewInOrlando (Winter Park, FL)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD- short cycle
MESSAGE: Duane....
A lot of the differences are attributable to energy efficiency and amount of water used, the machine's capacity, and the kinds of detergents available now and then, as well as noise. Back then, most detergents accomplished their task using phosphates, which as we know now is a big no-no for the environment. Low-phosphate detergents simply don't clean as well, so a substitute had to be found. Today we rely more on enzyme detergents or chlorine-based detergents, which require time and temperature to do their job, but are gentle to the environment. Also, back then, most machines didn't do things like wash pots and pans or offer other options. Their capacities were also generally smaller then today's machine. I would never cook if my dishwasher couldn't handle the pots and pans!!! Also remember, most machines did not use spray-type water distribution systems, but washed by splashing water onto dishes using an impeller located in the bottom of the tub. This was not only inefficient, but dangerous to your dishes if they became dislodged and fell to the bottom of the machine....they'd be smashed to pieces resulting in a glass shower over the rest of your load. The scientific precision available in a modern machine's wash arm design did not exist back then. I remember that my grandmother had a James in the 50's. It wasn't a terribly good cleaner so most of the time it sat, unused, while they all washed the dishes at the sink. But my mom's 1950's KitchenAid with the spray type wash system was faaaaabulous for its time. It even had a pots and pans cycle and lasted until around 1969 when she bought a Waste King stainless steel dishwasher. Both were noisy, but the KitchenAid seemed to hold so much more then the James could.
I hope that helps answer some of your questions. I'd appreciate any other ideas from other member's of the group about this topic!!!
Andrew
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Post# 30595-6/28/2003-04:26 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: latest finds (Pulsomatic)
MESSAGE: The pulsomatic was a very fast machine in the way of agitation. And yes, the cloths would circulate quite well. The one my Grandmother had was one with a blue agitator, solid tub, with a blue spring-loaded cap that you could open up and pour detergent in. The detergent would go into the center of the agitator, and then she would start the machine. It never sudsed much either, in spite of the soft water. It was because she used Amway's SA-8 in a rather small quantity, and bleached quite frequently when doing whites. The Amway detergent was very low sudsing, even when compared to Tide HE!
What was interesting, was that you could open the lid and watch all four cycles, wash, spin, rinse, spin, and it wouldn't stop. That machine had no safety features, none! We never got hurt by that washer either, because we were very well versed on the dangers of abusing it. Well, one day my Grandmother found a bicycle pump in the machine, and was very upset (for a good reason!). I assured her that I had nothing to do with that incident, and reminded her of how I treat my own equipment. Nothing came out of that (she was very good about giving me the benefit of the doubt). I was not about to have that machine wrecked, and end up having it replaced with a (gasp) Maytag!
With its super fast up and down agitator with the short stroke, and its absence of "safety" features, I really enjoyed that machine. And, my grandmother trusted me around it by myself. It sold with the house when they moved to New Mexico. She had a GE Filter Flo there, but I didn't care much for it. Until, of course, I started putting up with those direct drive machines and Maytags at some laundramats, and compared those with the GE. My money always ended up going to the Filter-Flos because they sudsed more! So now, I'm darn glad I saved that GE that I got from the infamous Konderator Metal Shredder appliance rendering plant. But hey, if someone has an extra Pulsomatic in reasonable condition, I will one day be glad to make an offer....
MrCoffee
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Post# 30596-6/28/2003-04:53 ||| tazman171 (Spokane, Wa)
SUBJECT: Posted 1961 Frigidaire Deluxe Range for sale
MESSAGE: Hy everyone.
I just posted a 1961 Frigidaire Deluxe Range for sale inthe classifieds. Most of the discussions here seem to be about washing machines and I was wondering if I would still have a good chance of selling the range on this site. For anyone interested, info on the stove is;
1961 Frigidaire Deluxe Range Model# RD-20-62 built buy General Motors. White in color. Everything (including the clock) works, only the oven is dirty. 4-burner range with removable oven tray, clock, timers, bottom and side storage drawers, cook-top light, swing out burners. Pictures available at the link below. Dimesions are 40x26x36. Just remodeled kitchen, need to sell. $350 OBO.
LINK: http://prodecipher.netfirms.com/Frigidaire%20RD-20-62.htm
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Post# 30597-6/28/2003-05:34 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Discontinuing Membership (discontinuing membership)
MESSAGE: Don't let a little unpleasantry run you off, simply ignore.
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Post# 30598-6/28/2003-05:50 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Back To Our Show on the "CircleW" Network... (Rinso)
MESSAGE: I saw it for sale in a 99 Cent store here in Los Angeles. It was automatic dishwasher detergent
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Post# 30599-6/28/2003-06:06 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Who is the adult here? (fighting)
MESSAGE: I didn't see it as fighting, just opinions, and a lot of people were totally right. I picked up on the Gay aspect as soon as I joined and was totally amused. It really shouldn't matter anyway, though true, some of the more "racy" comments and innuendos should be left out.
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Post# 30600-6/28/2003-06:28 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: AW6 (Paint Spots)
MESSAGE: What are you using to try and remove the paint spots? Depending on what surface they are on, you can try using Goof-Off (it may damage plastic, though) or car brake fluid (the regular type, not the synthetic or silicone variety) It shouldn't harm plastic if that's what the paint spots are on. If the spots are on baked enamel, neither solution will work.
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Post# 30601-6/28/2003-06:44 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: OVERSUDSING & the Westinghouse Space mate (1955 Kenmore water valve)
MESSAGE: Hmm, I had a 1955 Kenmore, that had the Hot, Medium, Warm temps on it, but it didn't use a bi-metallic function, it actually had 3 solenoids on it (and it was made of BRASS!)
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Post# 30602-6/28/2003-06:52 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Am I The Only One Who OVERSUDSING happens to? (Back in the day...)
MESSAGE: "The little blue jug is..DYNAMO!"
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Post# 30603-6/28/2003-07:00 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: HOSE NUMBER 19026 (19026 hose)
MESSAGE: More info is needed, whose part number is that, Whirlpool's, Sears, or some aftermarket company like Gemline, and what is the model number of the machine?
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Post# 30604-6/28/2003-07:03 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: ALWAYS LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE OF LIFE (Working A/C on a '56 Packard?)
MESSAGE: The fact that a '56 Packard has A/C at all is pretty rare and that it works is REALLY amazing!
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Post# 30605-6/28/2003-07:13 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Out With the New and In With the Old (110/220 volt conversion for Westy)
MESSAGE: It would seem that a converted 220 volt electric dryer would use up ALL the capacity of a 20 amp 110 circuit (and that's if you went totally regulation and used a 20 amp rated 110 volt outlet with the one sideways terminal rather than the usual 15 amp rated one) in which case seems like you might as well give it what it wants and get normal drying speeds.
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Post# 30606-6/28/2003-07:21 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: POD, Avacado Color (Avocado color)
MESSAGE: Amazingly, it seems that all the manufacturers agreed on the shade a certain color shold be, since they figure they might have to match some other brand's color. So, from what I've seen, there aren't different "shades", except for the "shadow" some makers outlined their products with on the edges.
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Post# 30607-6/28/2003-07:33 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: appliance colors
MESSAGE: Further on the color shade issue, back in the 70's we had a Gaffers & Sattler range that was brown. When our refrigerator died, we purchased a new Montgomery Ward Signature (Tappan) in brown to match the range. Then, when we re-did the kitchen in 1978, we purchased all the new appliances in Coffee to match the the older refrigerator and range. These consisted of a matching set of Lady K Solid State washer & dryer (first year), "Sears Best" Solid State dishwasher (also first year, and which I'm about to totally re-build in the next couple of weeks), and a trash compactor. The dishwasher and compactor came with interchangeable color panels, and in all cases amongst the different brands and ages (Gaffers & Sattler 1960, Tappan 1972, D & M 1978, Whirlpool 1978)the brown color EXACTLY matched, the only difference being that the refrigerator and range had the shadow accents applied.
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Post# 30608-6/28/2003-08:06 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: ALWAYS LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE OF LIFE (Packard!!! -off topic, I know!-old stove and fridge, Westinghouse, etc.)
MESSAGE: A '55 Packard with working A/C? Even rarer...
To fix the rust properly, you really need to remove the window. There is a product that wil convert the rust to a different compound (don't remember the name of the product, but it's used to repair rust in cars), and then you can paint it and replace the window. You might also want to put silicone sealer on the gasket so it REALLY keeps the moisture out, rather than just relying on the gasket alone.
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Post# 30609-6/28/2003-08:15 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: MUSIC FOR COOKING WITH GAS (Music For Cooking With Gas)
MESSAGE: Moon River was written for the movie "Breakfast At Tiffany's" (1961) so there's your date reference
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Post# 30610-6/28/2003-08:27 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD- short cycle (short dishwasher washing times)
MESSAGE: I noticed too that older dishwashers had short wash times. My Grandmother's 1963 Frigidaire with the spray tube technology was relatively short onit's "heavy" cycle compared to today's dishwashers and I noticed even then (I was 10 years old) that it didn't wash very well. I'm convinced that that and having to pre-rinse the dishes put a lot of people off from considering dishwashers to be a "necessity" until the late 60's. And even today, I have to constantly stop people from wasting water pre-rinsing dishes before putting them into our dishwasher, it really became ingrained in people that they had to do that, long after it was no longer necessary.
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Post# 30611-6/28/2003-08:36 ||| laundromat (florida)
SUBJECT: 1962 FRIGIDAIRE IMPERIAL TOY WASHER item *3614856825 on EBAY!!!!!
MESSAGE: saw the Imperial model by Wolverine on EBAY!It has the 3 ring agitator and not only agitates but also spins!!!I used to have it and it really does work well considering it has no rubber energy ring lol.There is also the matching range and refrigerator on other entries.Log onto EBAY and go to FRIGIDAIRE to see them.
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Post# 30612-6/28/2003-08:37 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: 19026 FSP # HOSE, & MOON RIVER
MESSAGE: That's the FSP number of the tub to pump hose on my '55 kenmore...but I was able to replace it with sump hose from an Equator Combo which I had stripped for spare parts a few years ago..Grandma Kenmore has never had greater vigor and is working just like new again. 110.93537 is the model number...but it's before logical model numbers existed...S38981 is the serial number...
Also....I thought Moon River was an early 60's thing...so I'm guessing this Lp to be from '62...the year I was hatched...
I should have a transfer available from the Lp by the end of the weekend....there seems to be a coating of gas fumes & cooking soil on the surface of the record I need to wash off first...
B
a la carte
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Post# 30613-6/28/2003-08:42 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: PINK TIN FRIGIDAIRE ON EBAY
MESSAGE: Here's the link to the toy on ebay....it's PINK!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3136765079&category=19181
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Post# 30614-6/28/2003-09:31 ||| AndrewInOrlando (Winter Park, FL)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD- short cycle (short dishwasher washing times)
MESSAGE: Oh I absolutely agree with you. I could never imagine putting some of the stuff I put in my GE Profile DW today into any of those machines back then. Even though not the top of the GE line, this thing seems to be able to clean just about anything and leaves no residue on any of the dishes using WalMart's "Great Value" enzyme detergent (it's top rated by Consumer Reports!!!). I can't remember that ever being the case with any of my mom's old machines. You had to rinse, rinse, rinse before you washed. And even then, pots and pans were never clean when they came out.
Most manufacturers today design their machines to be idiot-proof (and let's face it....how many people out there really know how to load/use a dishwasher?) Their designs allow a significant margin of error so that if a user selects the wrong cycle for the load (GE is famous for this), there is still a 90% chance that the dishes will get clean anyway.
Also back then, dishes didn't "sit" in the machines overnight or for a couple of days, like they might today. They were run after meals because their capacity was limited, so you couldn't cram a whole days worth of dishes in there. And let's face it, back then they just did things differently then we do today. Today's machines are designed to be used by anyone, not just the "homemaker" (or household slave, whichever you prefer). So they have to be error-proof, durable, flexible, efficient, and smart. And that just didn't exist back then.
Oh, yes, I remember my aunt's Frigidaire with the spray tube technology, too. It was neat. But didn't clean well at all, and everything had to be pre-rinsed first. Today's new Dacor 30 inch dishwasher (about $2,200 at Home Depot Expo) has re-introduced the spray tube technology into their design, to work in conjunction with the traditional spray arm. Haven't read any reviews on it yet though.....I guess what's old is new again?
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Post# 30615-6/28/2003-11:29 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: PINK TIN FRIGIDAIRE ON EBAY
MESSAGE: That thing is really cute!!!
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Post# 30616-6/28/2003-14:34 ||| pulsator (826 Vesper ,Ann Arbor, Michigan 48103)
SUBJECT: Someone has GOT to save this machine!
MESSAGE: This has got to be one of the rarest Whirlpool's I have ever seen! I have never seen anything so amazing! Save this washer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2332032821&category=42233
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Post# 30617-6/28/2003-17:41 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: Parts
MESSAGE: This place looks like they have it together
LINK: http://www.repairclinic.com/0001.asp
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Post# 30618-6/28/2003-19:19 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: Westinghouse and Packard
MESSAGE: Everyone,
To keep things at bay I will talk about the Packard one more time and then I'm done.
The 1955 Patricain that my father owns was the very "first" automobile in the industry to use a completely seled modern style Air-Conditioning unit. Before 1955 Packard, like Cadillac and Lincoln... in the 1953-54 model year used a "G-M Frigidaire" unit mounted in the trunk.
The Air-Conditioning unit on the 55 used two large air outlets mounted in the corners of the dash that distributed air to the rest of the car. This instead of the plastic tubes that the rear mounted "frigidaire" unit used to put air thru several roof vents. But it kept a seperate "heater" ductwork that used a dual heat system. A small heat unit mounted under the front seat distributed warm air to the rear passengers. The other outlets for air on the dash were for heat only.
Our car, being it an early Febuary 1955 car was the 11th one made with "factory air". This was out of about 1,000 cars that year from Studebaker-Packard that had "air". It was originally destined for a consumer in Dallas Texas, however it ended up styaing here in Michigan and was sold thru "Martin Motors" in Charlotte Michigan to my grandfather Kenneth for $4,219.67. Which in 1955 was about his yearly salary. Because he worked for the Michigan State Police, his car was NEVER stopped and my grandfather had a HEAVY lead foot too. I can remember him taking it up to our family cottage in Clare in the 1980's and he would be doing about 90.
So that is all i have to say about that.
My Westinghouse is going to have to wait to be properly fixed...because I was just laid off, just was in a fender bender and other minor reasons. That thing better work well or I "will" have to start using my 1-18's. And you all know from the past that I am NOT cool with that. Or I will have to bring the 1966-67 Kenny's from my folks house. So it's just a samll spot of rust right at the bottom of the door. It should be ok.
Well hopefully I diddn't "agitate" anyone with the Pacakrd talk or whatnot. Just wanted to reply to those who asked. If anyone wants to talk about washers especially "Westinghouse" can go to "Yahoo Groups" and look up "Westinghouse" and go to WestinghouseAppliances which is a club that I created for Westinghouse stuff but would love it if EVERYONE used it and contributed to it. I won't mind if things wander off topic ...but will mind if anyone is viscious or lewd.
Anyway
Sigining Off
The Westinghosue is buzzing and need to fold clothes so I can go out tommorow to "Estate slaes' to see if I can drum anything up for cheap...probably not ...but you NEVER know?
Chad
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Post# 30619-6/28/2003-19:47 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse and Packard
MESSAGE: Chad, yes I know I'm going to appliance hell for this, but I think Packard offered AC starting in 39 and going sealed unit, front supply by the mid 40's (God, I'm old!)
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Post# 30620-6/28/2003-21:45 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse and Packard (A/C fact correction)
MESSAGE: This is the last off-topic thing I have to say, too
Packard offered A/C in 1940, but it was experimental and wasn't offered again until 1953.
So give those 1-18's a little action, too, so they won't get jealous :-)
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Post# 30621-6/28/2003-21:47 ||| Ironergirl (Tennessee)
SUBJECT: GE Automatic Ironer
MESSAGE: Hey, I just found this site today. This is so interesting. I thought I was just about alone is loving old machines.
Today I bought a General Electric Automatic Ironer at a garage sale. ...Really great looking, though very dirty and spider-filled. The metal case looks like an old mini-fridge or sumpthin'. I know nothing about it's history (late to mid-forties?) or it's operation. Can you tell me how to find an owner's manual or someone who can tell me a bit about how to use it? It has a flat heating surface as opposed to cylinder type. This is really a fun and funky appliance. I would appreciate any help.
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Post# 30622-6/28/2003-22:11 ||| kenwashesmonday (Haledon, NJ)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse and Packard (A/C fact correction)
MESSAGE: Nash was first with modern automobile air-conditioning (all up front) in 1954. It was developed by Nash Motors and it's Kelvinator division (almost back on-topic).
Ken D.
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Post# 30623-6/28/2003-22:14 ||| kenwashesmonday (Haledon, NJ)
SUBJECT: RE: Parts
MESSAGE: I've ordered from them a few times and got good service.
Ken D.
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Post# 30624-6/28/2003-22:37 ||| FilterFlo (Coventry Twp, Ohio)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse and Packard
MESSAGE: With all due respect, KenWashesMonday is quite correct about Nash KELVINATOR airconditioning. Nash was the FIRST integrated dash mounted airconditoning unit that worked in conjunction with the heater with no apparatus in the trunk.It was a mid year 1954 innovation. It was also the first unit to use a cycling compressor for temperature regulation. Up to that time, the compressor in cars ran constantly, when the engine was running unless the belt was removed from the compressor.
I own a 1955 Packard Patrician and it is more of a factory add on type of air conditioning the most of the other manufacturers offered. Also, in 1955 Ford offered a completely dash mounted unit, along with all American Motors Kelvinator products. Cadillac, Lincoln, Chrysler, ect were still trunk mounted units.
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Post# 30625-6/29/2003-00:37 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: AW6 (Paint Spots)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the information. Well, the paint splatters are around the silk-screening on the metal front indicator panel. I might be a bit concerned about removing the silk screening as well as the paint. Maybe I should just let it be, who knows.
MrCoffee
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Post# 30626-6/29/2003-01:05 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 FRIGIDAIRE IMPERIAL TOY WASHER item *3614856825 on EBAY!!!!! (Here's the link for it folks...)
MESSAGE: Have fun bidding!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3136765079&category=19181
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Post# 30627-6/29/2003-01:28 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: Who is the adult here? (fighting)
MESSAGE: Eh, so what about the "gay" aspect. I'm strait, and I still have an interest in appliances. To be honest, sexual preferences mean nothing in this hobby. I know of an appliance repairman who collects vintage washing machines, and he's just as gruff and strait as any construction worker or Navy sailor. Unimatic would NOT want to make a pass at this feller (LOL)!
What it boils down to, is an appreciation for how things work and how effectively they do their job. Add to that, the "fun factor" and viola, you got yourself a vintage appliance nut. My friends really do appreciate my keeping these appliances in top shape as well.
To be truthful, a female should really consider dating an appliance nut. Why? Well, because an appliance nut can sometimes be a lot of fun, and can really pack a sense of humor and be fun to have around. Also, because she would never have to worry about repairs when her washing machine breaks down! Oh, by the way. I also like to collect locomotive horns (I'm working on trying to get a Nathan Third Generation P5). If anybody has a set of train horns (especially an M3H from a Grand Trunk locomotive) let me know...
MrCoffee
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Post# 30628-6/29/2003-09:01 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: CALORIC Lp MUSIC FOR COOKING WITH GAS
MESSAGE: O.K. fellas. Here you go. This Lp was even dirtier & more worn than I had originally realized....but I was still able to make a reasonable sounding transfer so you can get an idea what it 'sounds' like to be cooking with gas....I have made the music files into Realplayer files, which are the smallest file size available for sharing music...but you may have to download the latest real player to hear them....not to worry...that's a free download and only takes a moment.
Good Luck, and let me know what you think....
PEAS.
B
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/GAS/INDEX.htm
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Post# 30629-6/29/2003-10:00 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: CALORIC Lp MUSIC FOR COOKING WITH GAS (Caloric LP)
MESSAGE: I think you sold yourself short, sounded damn good to me, way better than I expected from the way you described the condition of the album.
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Post# 30630-6/29/2003-11:32 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Who is the adult here? (from another str8 collector)
MESSAGE: You hit the nail on the head! I'm also a str8 collector and I do just fine talking with anyone in this club. This is FUN place to be, especially at the wash-ins/get togethers.
I've always been fascinated with mechanical. If it has wheels, makes noise and does something mechanically, I love it. In fact, I went to visit my friend in Mississippi. His dad let me mow the HUGE lawn on a 50's International Harvester big ol' farm tractor. I was in heaven riding that thing. Hearing it start and the smell of gas just blew me away.
On dating females. I dated one that knew right from the start I was an old appliance nut. When we went to Sears and Best Buy I dragged her through the washers and dryers. Demonstrated the Calypso for her. She was amused at my obsession and liked it. Too bad she got scared and DUMPED me when her parents decided to get a divorce :-( .
Anyway, things are peaceful now. Let's just be considerate of others and have fun. That's what this place is made for, having fun with old washing machines.
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Post# 30631-6/29/2003-11:36 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: CALORIC Lp MUSIC FOR COOKING WITH GAS
MESSAGE: That was PHAT, DOPE, DEF, KICKIN, RAD, BAD, COOL, GROOVY BABY!
Habanera, one of my favorite exerpts, done up in hi-fi lounge.
MORE MORE MORE!
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Post# 30632-6/29/2003-11:36 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: CALORIC Lp MUSIC FOR COOKING WITH GAS
MESSAGE: Bob, how cool is THAT!!!
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Post# 30633-6/29/2003-13:15 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Who is the adult here? (from another str8 collector)
MESSAGE: Very well put Jason, now I hope everyone will take your lead and stop dredging up 2 week or more old posts about a subject that just needs to be left alone. We're past it and let's stay past it.
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Post# 30634-6/29/2003-15:35 ||| mrb627 (Atlanta GA)
SUBJECT: Up for Adoption
MESSAGE: Isn't someone going to adopt this Whirlpool?
LINK: http://bibo.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2330991424&bibo=1
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Post# 30635-6/29/2003-18:37 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Up for Adoption (QUICK QUICK)
MESSAGE: 1 hr, 45 mins left. Kinda expensive but worth it. Classic 60s Whirlpool! If this was around New Orleans, it would be coming home to me.
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Post# 30636-6/29/2003-18:41 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: CALORIC Lp MUSIC FOR COOKING WITH GAS (CALORIC Lp )
MESSAGE: Hi Bob,
This is realy cool. I hope you have been doing well.
Peter
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Post# 30637-6/29/2003-19:19 ||| cehalstead (charleston, wv)
SUBJECT: RE: PINK TIN FRIGIDAIRE ON EBAY (pink toy frigidaire washer)
MESSAGE: I stood in the toy dept of a discount store and played with one of these, until my mother stopped me. Wish she had bought it for me!!!!
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Post# 30638-6/29/2003-19:51 ||| mrb627 (Atlanta GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Up for Adoption (Yikes)
MESSAGE:
I don't think the seller has had any activity on this machine. He may repost it. The price is kind of steep, but then again, it is a very rare find. Probably looking at close to 600 for shipping alone.
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Post# 30639-6/29/2003-19:52 ||| mrb627 (Atlanta GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Up for Adoption (Chome Cap)
MESSAGE: I wonder if this model has the black agitator with the chrome cap.
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Post# 30640-6/29/2003-19:54 ||| mrb627 (Atlanta GA)
SUBJECT: Plastic Paint?
MESSAGE:
Has anyone seen the commercials for the plastic paint? I think it is Krylon brand. Could make for some WILD agitator colors. Is anyone willing to give this a try?
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Post# 30641-6/29/2003-21:24 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: Up for Adoption (Yikes)
MESSAGE: I am pretty sure it has the black and chrome agitator. My mother had the same model too, she got it before I was three. Her machine had a black agitator with a chrome top, and it also had the lint filter just like the one on EBay.
I would purchase that machine, but I am not able to handle his price. Not only that, but he won't ship it either. Such is life I guess.
MrCoffee
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Post# 30642-6/29/2003-21:50 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: Plastic Paint? (Painting an agitator?)
MESSAGE: Well, here goes....
I used to work for an asphault sealing company. One day, I decided to wash my work cloths in my grandmother's GE Filter Flo washer. You see, the story began this way:
Charlie Martin, my boss, told me that washing my work cloths would not hurt or discolor my grandmother's agitator. Charlie's wife agreed. Well, Charlie was a good friend of my grandmother's so I went ahead and took his advice. I ran my work cloths through my grandmother's GE. Well, they came out and what did we find? A black agitator instead of a white one!
I asked my grandmother: "Did you go and buy a new agitator for this machine?"
Grandmother: "Well no... it must have come from your work."
Me: "Impossible! You know that Charle's wife washes his work cloths in their washer all the time, and she said it doesn't affect it."
Grandmother: "Well, if you say so."
Me: "Well, I liked your machine when it had a white agitator. Now it does look rather strange, don't you think? I think I'll just go on over and talk to Charlie"
Grandmother: "Don't be late for dinner..."
So, I headed over to Charlie Martin's place, and told his wife: "I thought that tar wouldn't affect the color of your agitator. What gives?"
Charlie's wife: " I don't know. Well, I'll let you look inside my washer so I can prove to you that your work cloths won't affect the color off the agitator."
So she showed me her washing machine. What did I find? It was an old Maytag washer with a black bakelite agitator! I said "oh, that explains it then. Thanks Mrs Martin. Can I have some of those peaches to bring home with me?" "Sure, said Charlie's wife. Help yourself...."
I head back home, and readied the peaches for one of my grandmother's famous recipies. I said "I solved the black agitator problem. Mrs. Martin's washing machine has a BLACK agitator!"
Grandmother: "Good Lord. It bet it was from his work."
Me: "Well, his agitator was like that when it was new...."
Grandmother: "(chuckling, then laughing out loud) Well I guess that explains it then. Ok, I guess she won that bet."
After that me and my grandmother had a good laugh, and the old GE kept perking along. My grandmother's agitator eventually turned white again after I was able to find myself more steady work, the Martins continued to be best of friends, and all was right with the world.
So if anybody really wants to paint an agitator black, go to work for an asphault sealing contractor!
MrCoffee
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Post# 30643-6/30/2003-11:50 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Tropical Storm Bill
MESSAGE: Bill has arrived and it's gettin nasty outside.
New Orleans is gonna get the rain as well as 40mph+ wind.
Todd, I hope your workshop is water tight and it doesn't flood.
My trailer is about 5ft above so it shouldn't flood here.
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Post# 30644-6/30/2003-14:15 ||| Kirstalie (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: 1931 Altorfer Brothers Company (ABC) O-Matic Advertisement?
MESSAGE: Hi Everyone:
I am looking for an old advertisement from 1931. It is for the ABC Spinning Washing Machine. The washer in the ad is a sage green color and in the lower right hand corner, it displays the Altorfer Bros. Company name and Peoria, IL. I bid on this ad on Ebay, but someone outbid me:o( Out of ALL of the ads to choose from, they wanted THAT one too! Anyway, I would love to purchase this ad if anyone happens to have it or knows where I can find it. I even called Altorfer Brothers, but they could not help. If any of you can help, please Email me at Kirstalie2@aol.com.
Thanks so much:o)
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Post# 30645-6/30/2003-20:29 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: Why Packard and Kelvinator are (sorta) Linked
MESSAGE: Everyone,
Yes some of you are right about what has been written. Packard DID have an Air-Conditioning/Heater unit in 1940-41 that was of it VERY OWN manufacture. It diddn't sell well retailing at about $700.00 to the price of a post depression era Packard...which you all should know was never a cheap car. Kinda like a Maytag at one point...above the rest and lasted longest.
Air-Conditioning returned to Packard in 1953 under the insistence of it's new director James J. Nance. Thus 1953 Packards fitted with the GM Frigidaire unit.
What some of you should know who have age and knowledge on their sides...is that Studebaker and Packard were supposed to merge with American Motors in 1954. American Motors being the combination of Nash-Kelvinator and Hudson Motor Car Co.
Tis' true that the 1954 nash had the VERY first front mounted "Air-Conditioning unit" called "Weather-Eye".And when Studebaker-Packard and American Motors were to hook up they began sharing procedures and techniques manufacturing techniques and etc.
One of the processes that Packard farmed out to American Motors was the Air-Conditioning aspect because "American Motors
had considerable knowledge in the units" according to Packard and they wanted a more "innovative and less bulky" unit than what was being made over at Frigidaire.
Obviously...they had Kelvinator that handled "mechanized refrigeration"so Packard felt that they would be in good hands with their needs. Plus they were supposed to hook up anyway.
Packard in the fall of 1954 bought the rights to use a "version" of Nash's "Weather-Eye" to use in it's 1955-56 Packard and Clipper lines. It was VERY costly despite it's innovative nature (front mounted instead of rear) and it DID hamper space in the front footwell compartment.
Thus Many early cars available with air did not come fitted. Ours is "rare" indeed but works well .
American Motors and Studebaker-Packard ended up NOT merging as intended as George Mason President of N-K died that fall and George Romney took over. George Mason had envisioned that all four of them be put together...(kinda like White Sewing Machines becoming the WCI Corporation combining of the Westinghouse, Kelvinator,Gibson,Hamilton and etc. And he almost succeeded in that.
He was able to convince James Nance to put together S-P and he put together N-K and Hudson. They were to merge on November 1, 1954.
Moral of the story was...after Mason died George Romney took over and bascially....Romney and Nance HATED each other and could never see eye to eye. Thus after about a year of painful setbacks and ignoramus ego's between the two their "mutual agreement" fell thru.
Packard died in 1956 and Studebaker was allowed to live by Federal bailout only. Many of you would know about the 1979-80 Chrysler saga.....this was the same just earlier.
So our Packard is located in the Studebaker National Museum in South Bend Indiana.
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Post# 30646-6/30/2003-20:35 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Tropical Storm Bill (came and went)
MESSAGE: The worst of it started around 1:00pm and now it's over. No damage to my house.
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Post# 30647-6/30/2003-22:37 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Tropical Storm Bill (came and went)
MESSAGE: Sir Frigemore survives!
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Post# 30648-7/1/2003-07:20 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Tropical Storm Bill (came and went)
MESSAGE: No damage or water here ... my machines are all safe and dry.
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Post# 30649-7/1/2003-10:02 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Tropical Storm Bill (came and went)
MESSAGE: We got 2 inches of rain last night and another 4-6 is supposed to dump on GA today... I put the water wings on the car this morning...
-ph
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Post# 30650-7/1/2003-10:11 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Why Packard and Kelvinator are (sorta) Linked
MESSAGE: PC, thanks for the info. It is always interesting to learn about the mergers or almost mergers of the companies the help shape our past.
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Post# 30651-7/1/2003-12:53 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Tropical Storm Bill (High and not-so-dry)
MESSAGE: TS Bill is Audi here. Sun is shining and the water's going down.
Hey Todd, how's that workshop? Wanna get together for a wash-in soon?
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Post# 30652-7/1/2003-18:16 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Tropical Storm Bill (High and not-so-dry)
MESSAGE: Jason, Bill spent the day here and left us with flash flood warnings, maybe a "dry-in" is called for!
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Post# 30653-7/1/2003-19:55 ||| Becbay (nev)
SUBJECT: westinghouse cook stove
MESSAGE: Can anyone help me find info on a westinghouse cook stove? I have a 1920 first electic range. How do I fine value and info on this item?
Thank you-
becbay
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Post# 30654-7/2/2003-00:19 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: Older dishwashers short wash cycles
MESSAGE: Besides as mentiond in an earlier post, has anybody also noticed that the detergent cups in the older dishwashers are much smaller than in today's machines? Also, has anyone noticed an improvement in performance of the older machines using today's detergents?
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Post# 30655-7/2/2003-12:59 ||| mrb627 (Atlanta GA)
SUBJECT: Solid Gold Maytags on Ebay
MESSAGE: This pair is a definate Classic.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2332767364&category=20714
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Post# 30656-7/2/2003-13:37 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Older dishwashers short wash cycles
MESSAGE: Hi Ken’78, as many Applianceviller’s know I have (or should I say had) a 1956 Frigidaire dishwasher installed in my kitchen until just a few weeks ago. The only reason I took out the ’56 Frigidaire was because we are moving on Saturday to our new house, so into storage it went along with my other 36 washers and dryers and my vintage range.
I replaced my 225lb Frigidaire with a 2003, 75lb, $179.99 BOL Frigidaire plastic DW as I needed to leave something with the house. I sure do miss my all-porcelain ’56, it is of the horizontal spray tube design and it works wonderfully. I have seen posts here where other members remember from their childhood Frigidaire spray tube design dishwashers that did not clean very well. I can’t figure that out because mine cleans wonderfully, certainly better than the new 2003 Frigidaire DW. It very well might be a difference between the dishwasher detergents of the 1950’s and the new 21st century DW detergents. The only drawback of my ’56 is its capacity is probably half that of a modern dishwasher, but for the two of us it’s just right. The little detergent cup holds about 1/3 cup of detergent and usually fill it up till it overflows. I do scrape the dishes into the sink before I load it and the only time I have pre-rinse is when the pot or dish has old or baked-on cereal or the like. My brand new 2003 Frigidaire leaves residue in the bottom of all the glasses on the top rack, something I never had experienced with the ’56. I can’t wait till we move into our new house and get my ’56 back!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/unimatic1140/vwp?.dir=/Frigidaire&.src=ph&.dnm=Frig+DW+PINK+RACKS!.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/unimatic1140/lst%3f%26.dir=/Frigidaire%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 30657-7/2/2003-14:20 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Older dishwashers short wash cycles
MESSAGE: Uni, thanks for posting the pix of the dw. I'm interested in how the lower spray unit worked. In the unit that I got to see, it seemed to be set up to "wobble" and spray (the unit was trashed so anything could have been wrong). Did it actually spin?
I've also been thinking about the early detergent cups. As I recall, our 57 HP had two cups, one of which stayed covered until water filled a two compartment hinged cover. When the side w/o a hole filled it would rotate and the soap would be used in the second wash(?). My point being, I recall the cups to be pretty good sized, not much different than modern washers.
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Post# 30658-7/2/2003-14:24 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: You wont believe this but...
MESSAGE: Hey guys/gals, you all wont believe this but in our new house the 100amp circuit breaker box only has 16 slots and all 16 are full. Unfortunately there is no 220-volt outlet at the currently dryer location as there was a gas dryer there before (thankfully, the previous owners took their 90’s w/d set with them). I’m having an electrician upgrade the service to 200amp and install a new 30 slot Square-D breaker box, but it’s going to be a month or so before that work is completed. On top of that, my ’51 Bendix gas dryer is starting to make a strange sound so I don’t want to use it until I can give it a good overhaul. So that leaves only one choice, get a new gas dryer to use until I can get the basement more in vintage order. This is good timing anyway because my Asko dryer has recently stopped tumbling and I want a modern machine for Neal or for when I don't have time to baby-sit the wash. So I went out and bought a new brand new top-of-the-line gas dryer yesterday, and while I was at it I bought the matching washer because I just couldn’t help myself. So tomorrow they will be delivered and I think you some of guys will be interested in this new set, I will give everyone a full report in the Sandbox.
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Post# 30659-7/2/2003-14:33 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Older dishwashers short wash cycles
MESSAGE: There is no lower spray unit, just the pop-up water filter assembly. All water spray comes from the center tube which rotates at 650rpm. Pots and pans loaded in the bottom rack are turned on their side for proper washing. The detergent cup in this machine is definitely smaller than in modern machines.
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Post# 30660-7/2/2003-15:12 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: "What a great weekend"
MESSAGE: Hi to all, I have just returned from a fun filled weekend with Greg (Gansky). His fantastic collection of vintage washers and dryers gave me the "fix" that I had been needing. Greg was a wonderful host. Just wish that I had a digital camera so I could post some pictures of the fun. Terry
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Post# 30661-7/2/2003-16:09 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but...
MESSAGE: Actually I think you are joking us! I will sleeping under my mailbox to hear more about that set!! And you'd better make some pictures too before I believe this LOL!!
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Post# 30662-7/2/2003-16:10 ||| christfr (st louis mo)
SUBJECT: RE: "What a great weekend" (gregs the best)
MESSAGE: have to agree with you there greg is just the best always there to help i cant tell you how many times he has given me advice or helped me with problems what a great guy many thanks chris
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Post# 30663-7/2/2003-16:17 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: European Classic: Ruton 1000 or Philips CC1000
MESSAGE: A while ago I was riding on my bike through town when suddenly my eye fell on a washer that was going to be trashed. I recognized it immediately even though I first saw it from the back. I hurried home, got my camera, went back and shot some pictures. It's a Ruton 1000 which is actually the same as a Philips CC1000, a real classic because it was the first toploader with a spinspeed of 1000 rpm. It's from the early seventies. I left where it was, there are no longer parts available for this machine and besides that, you will see in the pictures that the state it was in was pretty bad. Otherwise it would be a dream.... For now, I'm totally happy with the pictures.
Louis
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/lst?.dir=/Ruton+1000&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/lst%3f%26.dir=/%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 30664-7/2/2003-16:25 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: Bosch washer with keyplates (manual)
MESSAGE: Recently I got scans of a manual from a German collector of washer brochures. This manual is from a Bosch washer that used keyplates like the Hoover Keymatic. Two discs, 15 cycles. This washer is almost the same as the Bosch my mother had, only my mother didn't have one with keyplates but with 3 rotary controls. The manual is in German, but has a few pictures including one of the control panel.
Louis
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/lst?.dir=/Bosch+washer+with+keyplates&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/lst%3f%26.dir=/%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 30665-7/2/2003-17:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but...
MESSAGE:
Shame, shame, shame on you for teasing us....there's no message in the Sandbox, will we have to WAIT until tomorrow???
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Post# 30666-7/2/2003-17:30 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but...
MESSAGE: oh my gosh....I better check and see if hell has frozen over, or if pigs are flying. LOL! Can't wait for the details, Robert. Happy new house!!!
Rich
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Post# 30667-7/2/2003-17:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: "What a great weekend"
MESSAGE: Thanks for the kind words Terry, it was certainly a pleasure having you and we certainly enjoyed spending time with you too. Don and Michael enjoyed meeting you and John (our Friday night party host) said you were welcome at his house anytime you are in town! Glad you had fun - come again soon! Greg
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Post# 30668-7/2/2003-17:34 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but...
MESSAGE: Hey Greg...haha...I ran to the sandbox too...and was disappointed that there was no message. I'm dying to know....what modern washer and dryer would Robert actually buy?????
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Post# 30669-7/2/2003-17:42 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: European Classic: Ruton 1000 or Philips CC1000
MESSAGE: Interesting pics - what were typical spin speeds before this? When did the Euro machines begin using the faster spin speeds? It's funny that fast spins and water usage were recognized so much earlier in the Euro markets before the US, you would think that with the energy crunch in the 70's there would have been swift changes made to household usage habits and appliances, but we are only just starting to see the awakening here.
I loved the pics (sandbox) of your guestroom - is that bedding waiting to be washed? ;-)
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Post# 30670-7/2/2003-18:40 ||| jimbo (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: Today POD
MESSAGE: I noticed that the dryer has an ultra-violet light to sanitize your laundry. I've seen it on other products. What did this actually do and did it really work.
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Post# 30671-7/2/2003-19:54 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Today POD (Sun-E-Day)
MESSAGE: I think this was a gimmick but maybe someone more knowledgable might have a different answer.
hmmm..
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Post# 30672-7/2/2003-20:55 ||| AndrewInOrlando (Winter Park, FL)
SUBJECT: RE: Older dishwashers short wash cycles
MESSAGE: Hey Uni, thanks for the info about your very beautiful and classic Frigidaire. Being born and raised in NYC, one problem which we had years ago was extremely hard water, which had a definite affect on wash performance. The film the water would leave behind was unbelievable; it was actually corrosive and resposible for trashing more than just household plumbing. This is most likely the reason early dishwashers didn't clean all that well in such situations. In the late 70's/early 80's, NYC's water supply was much softer (only 3 grains hardness) compared to the 50's and 60's. Many people used mechanical softeners (for those that could afford them). So the longer wash cycles of newer machines were more effective than the shorter wash cycles of the older machines. I wish I could find a Frigidaire like yours though, since here in Florida where I live, I have soft water.
Hey, have you seen the new Dacor 30 inch dishwashers? They use spray tube technology to clean the extra space in both racks..just like the Frigidaire.
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Post# 30673-7/2/2003-22:41 ||| FilterFlo (Coventry Twp, Ohio)
SUBJECT: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: Hi, This was a special week for me. My appliance guardian angel was really looking out for me. My appliance dealer friends that I used to work for called me and told me they had something special that just came in. When I got there, lo and behold: a 1962 Frigidaire WCI62 Multimatic! I just flipped! And in wonderful condition! Then in back of the shop, they had stashed a 1969(?) Kenmore 800 w/suds saver! Again, it was in almost perfect conditon. I plugged them both in, and both had lighted controls and they still worked. WOW! Loaded them in my van and was in seventh heaven the long ride home (about an hour).
The next day, I was able to locate a local dealer that used to have the Frigidaire franchise. I was hoping he might have some of his old parts in stock. He is near my house, aboutr 2 miles away. When I pulled up to his shop, there was a mid 60's TOL Speed Queen washer in the junk pile. Well, I just had to save that. It was the deluxe model, with lighted controls, timed dispenser, and suds saver. The owner was not there but I was able to buy it from his son. He was very nice, and told me he would save all the old stuff for me to look over and call me if there was anything special.
Got them home, and Yes, I got them all working. It took a while, but not one had anything seriousily wrong. I did a load in the SpeedQueen then the Frigidaire, and then the Kenmore. Boy, it just does not get much better then this! Here are some pics: and Oh yes, I dont think I can keep them all, Im just about out of room. The Kenmore will definately be up for sale.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/filterflo
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Post# 30674-7/2/2003-23:18 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: Hey Jimmie
Wow!!! Your appliance karma is unbelievable. I bet you are having fun playing with those. Thanks for sharing the pics....just awesome!!!
woo hoo!!!
Rich
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Post# 30675-7/2/2003-23:22 ||| FilterFlo (Coventry Twp, Ohio)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: Hey Rich,
thanks for the kind words. If I keep having this kind of luck, I will find my Philco Custom Imperial set, and then I will have to get rid of the Unimatic set and send them out to you in Calif! Ha Just kidding! (Maybe!)
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Post# 30676-7/2/2003-23:32 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (Magic 8 Ball)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg, hmmmm, let me ask my Magic 8 Ball,
"Magic 8 Ball will Applianceville have to wait until tomorrow to find out what I bought"
Magic 8 Ball Responds: "Yes, Definitely".
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Post# 30677-7/2/2003-23:34 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Older dishwashers short wash cycles
MESSAGE: Hi Andrew, I had no idea NYC used to have such hard water, I guess the NYC must soften the water like they do here in Minneapolis. The vintage machines we see here in the city are much better off from all that soft water than the ones we find in the suburbs where they do not soften the water.
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Post# 30678-7/2/2003-23:36 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: Hi Jimmy, wow that some week you had. I find it usually is feast or famine like that sometimes too. Congrats on all your finds, thanks for the pictures. All the machines look like they are in great shape!
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Post# 30679-7/2/2003-23:37 ||| alr2903 (new orleans)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (very LUCKY week. (Filter-Flo)
MESSAGE: Filter Flo, what a week, you did have. Your pictures are great. I really enjoyed them. The SQ looks like it still has the metal agitator like the coin ops instead of the gray plastic one is it aluminum? I also noticed the "coated wire spin guard as opposed to the later Plastic perforated ring. Man keep that SQ what a find. great shots and thanks for sharing. I looked at your other album too. LOL. I was about to sign off then I got caught up in your pictures, Well Thanks again. Have a good week. Im late for bed now LOL.
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Post# 30680-7/2/2003-23:49 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: European Classic: Ruton 1000 or Philips CC1000
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, in spite of its current tired state, we expect this was once a most Royal possession for its owner.
QEOM
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Post# 30681-7/2/2003-23:53 ||| FilterFlo (Coventry Twp, Ohio)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (very LUCKY week. (Filter-Flo)
MESSAGE: Yes alr, the SpeedQueen has the aluminum agitator. The agitator cap also has the little nubby, so that the filter pan can lock into it. Now I just need to find a filter pan! I am going to try very hard to keep the SpeedQueen, its such a neat machine, but not sure yet. I have about 40 other washer/dryers and sets, Im really OUT of room........But if I could find the matching dryer, well it would be a must to save! I love those sets.....
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Post# 30682-7/2/2003-23:57 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (Magic 8 Ball)
MESSAGE: Who wants to go over to the Sandbox and "wager" as to what set Robert may have bought? I'll go first. ;-)
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Post# 30683-7/3/2003-00:15 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: What wonderful new finds! Our first washer was a very similar WCI-61. It washed the diapers for 3 of 4 of us. My mom used it for 4 years, then my Grandma for another 25! The washer was still working when she passed.
I love the Sears machines with the "waterfall" style detergent dispensers. Speed Queens are always fun!
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Post# 30684-7/3/2003-03:12 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: European Classic: Ruton 1000 or Philips CC1000
MESSAGE: Greg,
Typical spinspeeds for that time would be 700 - 800rpm for the more expensive machines. Cheaper machines spun sometimes with even less than 400 (360 or 380), so this was quite revlutionary. In the early seventies some brands had a TOL model with 1000rpm, but all of them were frontloaders. Water saving was not an issue yet, most washers were still water hogs. Saving water started in the eighties.
The bed is made and ready to recieve guests. There is a down duvet in a cover on the bed. At least as long as it's there ;-)
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Post# 30685-7/3/2003-03:23 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: Three wonderful machines, congratulations!
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Post# 30686-7/3/2003-03:27 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: European Classic: Ruton 1000 or Philips CC1000
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, this was indeed a Royal possession. It was a very expensive machine, alas they didn't last very long exept for this amazing machine that held out 30 years.
QLOTOC
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Post# 30687-7/3/2003-05:54 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (YES!!!!)
MESSAGE: You have my dream machine!
Totally awesome!!!!!!
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Post# 30688-7/3/2003-05:56 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (very LUCKY week. (Filter-Flo)
MESSAGE: Well, could you expand to include a real retro laundry studio? Think of the fun you could have with that. Those machines were amazing finds especially all in the same week. And all in reasonably fine cosmetic shape. Who knows - maybe the next treat will be the Philco Custom Imperial Pair???
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Post# 30689-7/3/2003-06:37 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (that's a 72)
MESSAGE: The Kenmore 800 is a 72 model with the notched handle. My mom's had a metal handle.
Am I complaining? Nope. What a great find!
I want one but can't afford the shipping :-(
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Post# 30690-7/3/2003-07:43 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (Get the 40 circuit panel...)
MESSAGE: Robert,
Don't even bother with a 30 circuit panel- you will fill it up before you realize it, esp. in an older house if (when!!) you rewire. A 40 circuit panel is less than $50 more; the heavier wire needed adds a bit more cost. Still, for $100 or so, you will have plenty of power for extra washers, dryers, a subfeed to a detached garage, etc. It is much better and cheaper to do it now than have to add another subpanel later.
I am a licensed electrician who does mostly new construction- we don't install anything less than 200amps in new houses. Sometimes, in some of the larger houses, we install 400amps! By having enough circuits in a house, one can really eliminate overloaded circuits.
I know that this is off-topic; I just hate to see folks put in less elec. service than they will need! I'm certain your appliance collection will grow- be prepared with a big enough ciruit panel!
I really enjoy this site- thanks for all the time and sweat you pour into it!
Duane
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Post# 30691-7/3/2003-08:25 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (Get the 40 circuit panel...)
MESSAGE: Hi Duane
400 amps!!! that's amazing. Thats 44 kw, isn't it?
My whole house runs from a 1.5 kw inverter.
When I first got my vintage Frigidaire washer and was using it for about the second or third time I was starting to spin a load when it stopped dead. My heart stopped, has it blown up? Panic - Have I just killed the inverter with this silly old washing machine?
I checked the light in the laundry - nothing. Uh-oh. Checked the inverter, the red light was flashing. (overload) I reset it and crossed my fingers. Just then my partner walked in and said " I think something is wrong with the vacuum cleaner, it just stopped working."
Hmmm ... big old washing machine at the start of spin + old Electrolux vacuum cleaner = way over 1500 watts.
I gave him a lecture on not using a big draw appliance when the washing machine is on... no further problems... so far...
Chris.
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Post# 30692-7/3/2003-08:44 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: All in one day! I can just see you driving home grinning from ear to ear ;-)
These are all beautiful finds Jimmy - what a day. Now today will be all the matching dryers??
That Speed Queen is really in remarkable condition, did you replace the rubber clothes ring around the top opening? It looks perfect and they are hard to find. Congrats and enjoy your weekend full of vintage washing fun!
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Post# 30693-7/3/2003-09:02 ||| FilterFlo (Coventry Twp, Ohio)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: Hi Greg, Thanks for the kind words. No didnt have to put any parts in any of the machines yet to make them work. The Speed Queen is just as original as you see in the pics. I just love it! It has to be one of the quietest machines I have ever used. Other than the clunks of the solinoids, its almost silent. Not sure if its a keeper yet, but Im trying to find a spot for it. Im just getting ready to wash the new kitty cat's blankets in it. I wish I had the lint filter to catch all the cat fur.
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Post# 30694-7/3/2003-09:07 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (I Must Say Very Lucky!)
MESSAGE: Jimmy,
What wonderful machines!
I just love all of them, but the Speed Queen is my favorite!
I can't help but wonder why would anyone get rid of such great machines. Speed Queen in the Junk Pile! That is so wild! I am so happy that you saved it! It was meant to be!
Hope you have a great holiday weekend!
Thanks for the pictures.
Brent
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Post# 30695-7/3/2003-09:16 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: You dog! Good thing you didn't find a '61 WCI! If you find the '61, I know where you can swap your '62 WCI for a clam shell '61 DCIF... Congrats!
-ph
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Post# 30696-7/3/2003-09:17 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: Oh yes, the filter - well, it's very dramatic and fun to watch, but with the aerated overflow wash and rinse action, not much lint actually stays in the filter...I guess it's self cleaning!!
Let me look around in my parts-treasures and see what I have...
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Post# 30697-7/3/2003-09:21 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: Peter, you have a Speed Queen too - is that all done now? Why haven't you posted pics?
OK, ready for the slap...
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Post# 30698-7/3/2003-09:26 ||| SarahW (Richmond VA)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: WOW!!! It's finds like that (and the fabulous pictures, of course) that keep me glued to this board.
That's some haul, you really must have an appliance angel :)
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Post# 30699-7/3/2003-09:31 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: GRRRRRR...
I hope to work a bit on the Unimatic tomorrow. After all, that it's in the dining room and the SQ is in offsite storage...
-ph
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Post# 30700-7/3/2003-10:36 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: You forgot the mechanism support screws we bought...
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Post# 30701-7/3/2003-10:44 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (YES!!!!)
MESSAGE: Jason, is that the exact same one, or did your mom's have the water level and temp dials with the plastic that matched the timer dial? Either way, this might be a good machine to consider if Jimmy decides to sell it!
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Post# 30702-7/3/2003-10:49 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: Sarah, just out of curiosity, are you "Sarah of 1000 Hetties" from the appliance forum? ;-) Maybe one of these vintage machines would be just the ticket/cure to your woes!
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Post# 30703-7/3/2003-11:19 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (YES!!!!)
MESSAGE: It's not the EXACT machine. My mom's had the plastic buttons to match the timer and the metal handle on the door. The faceplate was a gold'ish color.
Very close.
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Post# 30704-7/3/2003-11:37 ||| dalangdon (Seattle, WA)
SUBJECT: Westinghouse L-5 Gasket
MESSAGE: Howdy everybody,
the gasket around the door of my Westinghouse L-5 is rotting away. Is there anyway to get a replacement?
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Post# 30705-7/3/2003-12:13 ||| FilterFlo (Coventry Twp, Ohio)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: Hey Peter, Its a deal! You know how I love to make sets match up. But calling me a dog? From a cat lover to another cat lover? hahah More like a rat!
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Post# 30706-7/3/2003-14:00 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: Don't forget the gold crown on the shelves in your study with the little plastic appliances too...
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Post# 30707-7/3/2003-14:01 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: Hi Sarah,
it's good to see you here in the land of classic appliances!
Well I hope you will get bitten by the bug and start a mini collection and give us the pro and cons about your find!
I know that you wished you had your Speed Queen back, but hey...., you never know when you will run into again up in here!
I wish you the best of luck with the LG's Tromm pair (If I'm correct).
Take care!
Larry
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Post# 30708-7/3/2003-14:02 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: "Mouse, never mouse... RAT!!!"
I hope the Philco Imperial is right around the corner for you. I'd also like to find the Duomatic in that style.
-ph
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Post# 30709-7/3/2003-14:53 ||| appliguy (Vienna Va.)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (YES!!!! My Mom had this exact model 800)
MESSAGE: My mom had this exact model Kenmore 800. It is the very first washer I ever remember. I was told that when I was little I wouldn't let anyone cut my hair unless they did it on top of that washer. We replaced it in 1983 with a Whirlpool Supreme that we still have in the family (it is up at our summer home at the lake). How I would love to wn this washer if only I had the money and the space. I know Jimmy will find it a good home though.....maybe with Jason form New Orleans?..........
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Post# 30710-7/3/2003-17:13 ||| Mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Older dishwashers short wash cycles (Vintage Dishwashers & shorter wash cycles)
MESSAGE: I have 3 top load dishwashers , GE Power shower, Westinghouse 6 cycle & my favorite, a 58 Kenmore , pink interior,impeller wash, round top rack. Of all my machines the Kenmore out performes by far. I am looking for a good home for them in hopes that some day I can find a GE built in, impeller wash with pink interior & a top sprayer. Or Westinghouse , impeller wash built in. The cycles in the old machines are shorter I agree . You can not load as much in as a new machine BUT when properly loaded they do a fantastic job, pots & pans included. The detergents today are far superior & if the water is hot enough & properly loaded you will be hard pressed to find someone that finds these machines inferior. It is very nice to see people in the club who have other interests (dishwashers)besides just old washing machines (all in fun guys) Have a great day Michael
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Post# 30711-7/3/2003-18:41 ||| Manor_Avenue (Fresno, CA)
SUBJECT: Question for Robert (Unimatic 1140)
MESSAGE: Would you have any leads on finding the 1957 G.E. Filter-Flo washer mate to the dryer of yours that's pictured in the General Electric wing of the Classic Appliances web site? I'm in Fresno, CA, and I'd be willing to have the machine shipped. Also, any idea where to snag an early 1950's Westinghouse slanted-front Laundromat? How about a duplicate of your 1961 Whirlpool pictured in the museum? All of the appliances you have pictured are terrific. Thank you!
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Post# 30712-7/3/2003-19:10 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse L-5 Gasket
MESSAGE: Hi Dan- The door boot for your L5 Laundromat is a much sought after part among the Westy fans who have restored these great mahcines. Being rubber, they tended to degrade over time sitting on shelves in parts shops that might have kept them but it's possible one might be found in good shape. Unable to locate an original replacement for my L5, I used a currently stocked part for the straight front Westinghouse/WCI/Electrolux washers. It works just fine, but it does pucker a little around the opening. The original part number is Q4688 if you want to do some checking around. I have some pictures posted in Yahoo of what I did to replace the boot on my L5. Unfortunately, the newer style boot is a bit of a bear to get onto the lip of the tub, so I had to tear the whole machine down and separate the two halves of the outer tub. It's not as bad as it seems...famous last words!
Greg
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/thesheerlook/lst?.dir=/Westinghouse+Laundromat+L5+Restoration&.view=t
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Post# 30713-7/3/2003-19:11 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: I'll trade you for a Speed Queen Repair Master.....;-)
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Post# 30714-7/3/2003-22:12 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (WOW!)
MESSAGE: Congrats on these wonderful finds! It's hard to believe that they're in such good shape ... especially the Frigidaire and the Speed Queen. Someone took good care of them both and I'm glad that you were able to save them.
Mike
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Post# 30715-7/3/2003-23:23 ||| alr2903 (new orleans)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (Sq Filter)
MESSAGE: Now I could be way wrong, but I was thinking the nub on the SQ agitator cap held a fabric softner wheel. My grandmother had a similar machine in the 70's. I always thought the solid tubbed SQ's relied on that overflow for lint removal. Now i could be wrong thats been a LLLLLLong time ago. Happy Independence day EVERYONE.
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Post# 30716-7/4/2003-01:40 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: Re: Purex "HE" Tablet's:
MESSAGE: Hey! Club member's, I wanted to know if someone would be interested in 2-Full Boxes and a partial Box of Purex "HE" Tablet's? I've tried them and it seems to be breaking me out into a Rash, so I'm not going to use the rest of them. Please send me an E-Mail on my "AOL" Account, along with your Address and I will be glad to send them next week, to whomever is interested in them.
I don't want anything for them and not even reimbursement for the Postage, I just want to give them to someone who can use them and appreciate my generousity of this offer.
I also want to wish everyone a Safe, Fun, Wonderful time and celebration for a "Happy 4th of July" and I hope everyone will have a wonderful weekend too.
Best Regards, Steve SactoTeddyBear@aol.com
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Post# 30717-7/4/2003-05:44 ||| FilterFlo (Coventry Twp, Ohio)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (Sq Filter)
MESSAGE: Hi alr, Ive been looking thru my service literature for the SpeedQueen, and its seems there could be both a lint filter OR a rinse additive despenser, but not both. My good friend Don Shier gave me a lint filter for a SpeedQueen wringer washer but it does not fit in the automatic. And you are right, with the overflo wash and rinse, the filter is probably of dubious value....
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Post# 30718-7/4/2003-07:59 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Question for Robert (Unimatic 1140)
MESSAGE: Hi Manor,
No I have never seen the 1957 GE Filter-Flo washer, I would love to find that match to my '57 dryer. For more information on how to go about finding this stuff see post #5694 in the archives.
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Post# 30719-7/4/2003-08:43 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (Sq Filter)
MESSAGE: I think that a filter or a FS dispenser can be used. The 1964 SQ I played with at the convention had a fabric softener. The SQ was fun but quite rough on clothes IMHO. Gets the clothes clean but with brute force, just like direct drive Kenmores.
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Post# 30720-7/4/2003-08:45 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (ALR )
MESSAGE: I wonder when Todd's gonna let us see his new workshop and play with his machines? I can't wait to watch that Skinny Minni in action. I've never seen one before. I want to videotape it as well as the 1-18 which I accidentally recorded over.
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Post# 30721-7/4/2003-09:15 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (OKAY, its time)
MESSAGE: Jason, I'm sorry that its taken so long. Although the workshop is finished, I still don't have plumbing to it yet. But, we can get around that. How about next Saturday, say from noon to three or four? We also have a little project to work on (the 1966 Frigidaire is feeling under the weather). ALR, you are most welcomed, too ... I am in Metairie. Hey Bob, you can attend via telephone, too. Todd
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Post# 30722-7/4/2003-09:27 ||| sarahw (Richmond VA)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (the vintage cure)
MESSAGE: Hi Scott! How unfair, I'm sure I was only in the low hundred's. :^D
I forgot which of my profiles has the talking Hettie - I guess it's the sandbox one.
Perhaps the laundry gnomes in my older home resent the newer machines.... and would be pleased to welcome a vintage one.
Despite stalking all the old-geezer Richmond tag sales, I haven't stumbled on anything wonderful yet...hence my amazement at the triple play discussed here!
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Post# 30723-7/4/2003-10:13 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Bosch washer with keyplates (manual) (Not A Hoover!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Louis
Gosh, Keplates and not a Hoover, unthinkable...what year was this produced was it later than 1961??
What spin speed was this machine?? Looks a typically solid Bosch washer ...
Happy washing, Mike
p.s.Have you got the Full Hoover Keymatic brochure scanned at all??
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Post# 30724-7/4/2003-10:22 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: Hi Jimmy
A very special week indeed I`ll say...what a stunning trio especially with all the lights...
Makes it all the more exciting when they turn up out of the blue like that....
If you really cant keep em I might just contact crates & freighters just to check how much to ship...LOL
Happy Hunting
Mike
p.s.Would look lovely next to my Hotpoint Filter-Flow!!!
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Post# 30725-7/4/2003-12:29 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (YAY)
MESSAGE: Cool. Next Saturday it is! I can't wait.
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Post# 30726-7/4/2003-14:01 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Bosch washer with keyplates (manual) (Not A Hoover!!)
MESSAGE: Hey Mike,
From the Sandbox to the main site and probably back again, it's a busy time in appliance land!
I don't know when the production of the Bosch began, but I have a copy of a test in a German magazine that dates from January 1965. The spinspeed was 700rpm, my mother's Bosch from 1966 did 760rpm, so I guess they updated that line. It was a VERY heavy machine, the door alone was 3 - 4 times heavier than that of a modern Miele. Price was the same as the Miele from that time. My mother choose the Bosch for it's capacity, Miele was 4kg, Bosch 5.5kg.
I have a few scans of the Hoover Keymatic and the manual.
Louis
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Post# 30727-7/4/2003-14:08 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (Sq Filter)
MESSAGE: There were numerous incarnations to filter lint out of the wash and rinse water over the years. Speed Queen used a "Slosh-over" method in the wringer washers and early automatics and then later moved to a "scoop and sling" type which is one of my favorites. Variations of these type did include a fabric softener dispenser on top of the filter unit - it's very cool! I also have a fabric softener dispenser 'wheel' as was mentioned. I posted pictures of all these in my album.
One of our neighbors had a 1964 Speed Queen washer with the scoop and sling filter that I was absolutely entranced by many a Saturday morning - what a wonderful sound it makes and watching the water sloshing around was a slice of heaven for a washer-boy at the tender age of 11...
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Misc.+Fun&.src=ph&.dnm=Early+Slosh+Over+Filter.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Misc.%2bFun%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 30728-7/4/2003-14:19 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Greetings (Birthday)
MESSAGE: Thank you to EVERYONE here who wished me a happy birthday. Well, now I"m on the down-side to 50, next year. I did have a very nice day. Co-workers took me out to a very nice Italian Rest. for lunch and Max & Kirk took me out to dinner, along with some other friends. Kirk baked me a cake in their near vintage 1977 30" whirlpool continuous clean wall oven. It was a cake baked in a bear pan and he decorated it like a teddy bear. Went to their house afterwards to survey the repair work done on their house after a 25 year old tree fell on their house 6 weeks ago. Wanted to go swimming, but the other guys wanted to watch QAF instead, so I didn't get to celebrate my "suit" per se. I'm truely thankful for my friends and family here as well as Max & Kirk. Have also been extremely bizzy with work, long days, and some other persuits. All in all, the last two years have been the best birthdays I've had in a long time.
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Post# 30729-7/4/2003-14:37 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: Beautiful finds for sure!!! Incredible. Jimmy, I've not read any of the replying posts from this one, but had to add my 2 cents worth anyway, whether it's been covered or not, sorry guys. Anyway, the Kenmore 800 is more like a 1971 or 1972 model, the LAST of it's ilk. It's newer than Jason's or my Kenmore 800 from childhood becuase of the flat lid with the cut-out "handle" and no chrome handle on top of the lid. Plus the water level & temp dials have the graphics on the control panel rather than small plastic display knobs like the timer is. A fraternity brother of mine had this washer in their house when I visited them in 1977 in the Dallas area, he and his wife had been married since 1971 and they bought this washer in late 1971 or 1972 when they bought their first house. I know Jason or I would love this washer, but for me, it still isn't a GM Frigididaire and that's what I'm holding out for.
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Post# 30730-7/4/2003-14:42 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Purex "HE" Tablet's:
MESSAGE: Steve, thanks for the info. I'm sorry about the rash. I had similar brek out of itching and a bit of a rash when I used the purex liquid. Now I know I won't be using the tabs at all.
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Post# 30731-7/4/2003-14:51 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (the vintage cure (Sarah))
MESSAGE: Sarah, I'm glad you're here. I'm Boba1 from the appliance and laundry forum on THS. I thought of you this week when the new CR issue rated the HE3t as the best performing front loader. Wish you could find a vintage Speed Queen for your washing purposes.
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Post# 30732-7/4/2003-15:27 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (Speed Queen Lint Filter pictures)
MESSAGE: Great pictures Greg, I never knew there were so many ways to capture lint!
-Alex
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Post# 30733-7/4/2003-15:48 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: Whirlpool/Inglis washer on ebay gone to the crusher?
MESSAGE: It's been on ebay a few days and no bids. :(
Is this a canadian machine? Anyway, off to the crusher I guess since I don't have the room.
-Alex
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2332032821&category=42233&rd=1
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Post# 30734-7/4/2003-16:07 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Purex "HE" Tablet's:
MESSAGE: Steve,
I'd be interested in them provided they are still available?
I will email you my address. The tabs are not carried at my local K-mart, so this would be my first exposure to them.
Thanks!
-Alex
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Post# 30735-7/4/2003-19:27 ||| windycitybear (Chicago)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Purex "HE" Tablet's: (Rash???)
MESSAGE: Do tell where the rash is...... :-)
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Post# 30736-7/5/2003-01:27 ||| frontaloadotmy (grass valley ca)
SUBJECT: toooldappliancenut
MESSAGE: send frontaloadotmy some info about your Turquoise '59 GE dw
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Post# 30737-7/5/2003-01:37 ||| frontaloadotmy (grass valley ca)
SUBJECT: RE: Sixties Whirlpool Washer (turquoise '59 G E dw pix)
MESSAGE: OAN is your profile aol email still good? please replyto
frontaloadotmy
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Post# 30738-7/5/2003-01:43 ||| frontaloadotmy (grass valley ca)
SUBJECT: RE: GE pullout dishwasher new member in home
MESSAGE: share details with frontaloadotmy
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Post# 30739-7/5/2003-01:44 ||| frontaloadotmy (grass valley ca)
SUBJECT: oldappliancenut
MESSAGE: talk to me
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Post# 30740-7/5/2003-02:09 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Purex "HE" Tablet's: (Purex "
HE"
Tablet's Rash!!)
MESSAGE: Well, well, wouldn't you like to know where my Rash is?
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Post# 30741-7/5/2003-07:17 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: Sixties Whirlpool Washer (turquoise '59 G E dw pix)
MESSAGE: no use oldappliancenut@yahoo.com
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Post# 30742-7/5/2003-15:24 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Purex "HE" Tablet's: (Re: Purex "
HE"
Tablet's:)
MESSAGE: Hey! Club Members, I've got some replies to my offer, so the Tablet's are "all present and accounted for" to "taker's" replied. Sorry for anyone else who might have been interested.
Regards, Steve
Sacto Teddy Bear...
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Post# 30743-7/5/2003-16:14 ||| Katierose (VA)
SUBJECT: Kelvinator Pitcher
MESSAGE: Does anyone know what date (s) Kelvinator refrigerators came with pitchers ? Have one my Grandmother used in her fridge, my children have asked when Grandma bought it and have no idea..it was before my time. Thanks for the assist
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Post# 30744-7/5/2003-19:07 ||| alr2903 (new orleans)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (Sq Filter)
MESSAGE: You certainly know your SQ's thanks for the pics, I had never seen that filter arrangement. VERY NICE pics. TCOX, Jasonl, Saturday sounds good I will e-Mail you to confirm, Todd, Jason glad you both came through TS Bill OK, I checked your posts, hope we don't have to go through that again for at least a couple of weeks... :-)
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Post# 30745-7/5/2003-20:35 ||| Pulsator (826 Vesper ,Ann Arbor, Michigan 48103)
SUBJECT: Vari-Flex agitator removal question
MESSAGE: Okay here is the situation, I went to the junkyard and found a beautiful in perfect shape Kenmore 900 washer. I am trying to remove the agitator and run into a problem.I got the cap, spring, bolt, top part of the agitator, and the variable fins out, but i cannot get the underneath agitator out, you know with the spiral "Fins" I guess you could call them. The bolt is out and I pull up, it moves up easily, but then stps to the sound of what appears to be another bolt. Where is this bolt and how do I get the rest out of the machine? I need to know by 1:00 pm eastern time, sunday. It would also be nice to get the basket out too. Any info on how to do that would be wonderous. I have already gotten all the way down to the part where you can see between the two tubs. I got stopped by the agitator of course.
THANK YOU SO MUCH!
-Jamie-
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Post# 30746-7/5/2003-21:09 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: New York Trip
MESSAGE: I am leaving tomorrow morning for New York. I would like to touch base with some of the NYC members while I am there. I will be staying in the Bronx and will have my lap top so drop me a line if you want to get together. Email address is svb14@hotmail.com.
Steve1-18
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Post# 30747-7/5/2003-22:03 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: Classic Appliance South East Fall Wash - In
MESSAGE: A reminder about the Classic Appliance South East Wash-in this fall. My collection is modest, but if you need a washer fix I’m planning a get together October 24th – October 26th. This is open to all, but I would like a head count. I’ll check into lodging when I get back.
Closest airport is Bush Field, Augusta, GA.
Atlanta, GA is approximately 2.5 hours by car.
Charlotte, NC is approximately 3 hours by car.
Columbia, SC is approximately 1.5 hours by car.
Savannah, GA is approximately 3 hours by car.
Special e-mail address for Classic Appliance South East Wash-in is:
applianceville@comcast.net
If you want to be kept updated, email me at that special address and you will be put on the mailing list. Please note: I WILL NOT be checking that mailbox until I return home.
Happy Independence Weekend!
Steve1-18
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Post# 30748-7/5/2003-22:14 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Classic Appliances Deep South Wash-In
MESSAGE: Next Saturday, me, Todd and hopefully ALR will get together for a fun wash-in.
We'll be playing with the green team (1-18s), the 65 Rapidry, the 66, the Skinny Minni AND Best Buy will deliver the LG set. That's 5 washers to be played with!
The FrigiBears and the AgiCub do it again.
Why? Because we're CADS!
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Post# 30749-7/5/2003-22:56 ||| Loveoldkitchens (Elizabeth, NJ)
SUBJECT: Help identifying an old Frigidaire
MESSAGE: I purchased a beautiful Frigidaire this week, but despite an exhaustive search, I cannot figure out it's year, only that I believe it to be between 1952 and 1955. This I think because I think 1952 was the first yr for the Cyclamatic, and starting 1956 the top of the fridge was squarer. It is a Frigidaire Imperial Cyclamatic. It has a single door, with the freezer on the bottom (you pull down an aluminum door, and theres a freezer basket) On the door is a separate butter/cheese thing, w/it's own colder/warmer knob. Door also has a clear plastic holder that has a door that pulls down. Ice trays go on very bottom underneath the freezer door. It says "model CIV-115" on the back, but any search I've done has turned up nothing. Thank you in advance for any help you can give me. I will try to get a picture to post, maybe that will help.
Thanks, Cheryl
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Post# 30750-7/5/2003-23:59 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinator Pitcher
MESSAGE: Probably from the 1940's or even earlier. Check eBay auctions, I see many of these refrigerator pitchers, servers and storage dishes up for sale so perhaps someone will know a little more history.
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Post# 30751-7/6/2003-01:10 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: GM custom imperial dishwasher
MESSAGE: me and my hunny found a gm frigidiare custom imperial dishwasher in nice shape has the rotoswril wash system pics to follow later its still on the truck
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Post# 30752-7/6/2003-05:22 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: GM custom imperial dishwasher (send pic's soon)
MESSAGE: I have only seen pic's of a machine like that once before. Great find. Looking forward to seeing the pic's. Wish I had luck like that. Take care. Michael
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Post# 30753-7/6/2003-08:39 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Solid Gold Maytags on Ebay (Maytag dimensions)
MESSAGE: Is it just my imagination, or is it that Maytag dryers are bigger (outside) than their washers, whereas other manufacturers have the washer and dryer the same size?
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Post# 30754-7/6/2003-08:58 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Solid Gold Maytags on Ebay (Maytag dementia)
MESSAGE: Some dryers are 30" instead of 27". That makes for a super capacity dryer. Notice the washer and dryer are placed correctly (washer on left and dryer on right) but the dryer door is reversed.
Evil Maytag.
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Post# 30755-7/6/2003-09:00 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Older dishwashers short wash cycles (Modern Frigidaire cleaning deficiency)
MESSAGE: When we moved into our current house in the 80's, it came with a Montgomery Ward (Frigidaire clone). We used it for a while, but I immediately noticed it didn't do as good a job on its "Heavy" cycle as our old 1978 Sears (D&M) dishwasher did on its "Water Miser" cycle. Since our old house was demolished for an apartment building, we brought the dishwasher (and other things) with us, and I eventually got fed up and took out the Wards and put back the Sears.
The Sears is finally starting to show it's age and I'm going to soon overhaul it, which I will document in pictures. It's been slowly getting more and more annoying to operate, to the point I'm the only one in the house who can run it properly, otherwise I have to brief all the roommates on it's "quirks", such as:
detergent dispenser and rinse agent dispensers haven't worked in years( I have to wait for the main wash and manually add detergent), which I recently discovered is probably because of a...
bad heating element, which also means...
wash water isn't kept hot, no Sani Temp, no hot dry, AND....
machine timer turns off, but dry fan keeps going forever(and it SCREECHES) and I can't start a new cycle unless I go out and turn off the power at the circuit breaker panel.
The inner door panel has rusted so that it has broken away from the left door hinge, so if I don't close the door JUST right, it leaks. To top it all off, the door springs broke so the door is very heavy. And it's ready for it's 3rd set of racks. Anybody else would've given up and bought a new one, but it's a first year Solid State model, bought new, so I'm sticking with it. I figure it would cost around $600 to replacce it with today's equivalent model, so to me, it's worth it.
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Post# 30756-7/6/2003-09:09 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (gas/electric)
MESSAGE: OK, so you're spending all this money to upgrade the elctrical, but youbought a GAS dryer? So what are you going to plug into the 220 volt line,a nd where is it going to be?
What brand of circuit breakers were in the original box? A 100 amp main would easily accomadate an electric dryer. Depending on the brand of circuit breakers, someties you can replace one "thick" circuit breaker with 2 "thin" ones, which then opens up a slot. I noticed in our GE breaker panel that some of the breakers actually take up 2 slots (and they're not double-gang 220 volt breakers, either) and that by replaicng them with newer "thinline" ones, I was able to gain space without a complete overhaul.
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Post# 30757-7/6/2003-09:31 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (Speed Queen in junk pile)
MESSAGE: "I can't help but wonder why would anyone get rid of such great machines."
Me, neither, especially when the machine STILL WORKS!
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Post# 30758-7/6/2003-17:05 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool/Inglis washer on ebay gone to the crusher? (crusher)
MESSAGE: people lookignm for a used wahser don't usually check E-bay, you need to put it in your local fish wrapper for some small price, or, worst case scenario, set it out with a sign that says "Works, no space for it"
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Post# 30759-7/6/2003-18:35 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Help identifying an old Frigidaire
MESSAGE: Welcome -
Neat find you have there, this refrigerator is a 1955. Aluminum "Roll To You" shelves, "Picture Window Hydrator" (in the door) and the first year of forced air cooling for Frigidaire in the refrigerator compartment. The Letters in the model number are: C = CyclaMatic I = Imperial V = production year (55) and the numbers are the size of the unit = 11.5 (or 115)
At and estate sale this weekend, I saw a 1955 model, but not as nice or large, what beautiful machines these were - enjoy yours!
Greg
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Post# 30760-7/6/2003-19:00 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Older dishwashers short wash cycles (Modern Frigidaire cleaning deficiency)
MESSAGE: My parent's former neighbor had this same dishwasher in their kitchen, barely used with harvest gold panels. I remember looking at that in the catalog when it came out and dreaming of the portable model for our kitchen in coffee to match our stove and refrigerator. We had a roto-rack dishwasher that was a miserable performer but the D&M Roper (with rapid-advance timer) that was in this house did a fine job. I remember the terrible drinking problem it had, I've never seen a dishwasher use that much water for a normal cycle.
Do you have a donor machine in good shape for a new door panel and racks? Sounds like you have quite a job ahead of you, but all the work I put into my KDS-18 was worth it too. Best of luck - Greg
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Post# 30761-7/6/2003-19:13 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (gas/electric)
MESSAGE: It's not just one electric dryer - it's four or five! I think it's a good idea to upgrade the electric service when that many appliances, air-conditioning, range, etc. are installed, better to have empty slots than piggybacking and pushing the limit. More is better when you collect major appliances!
I have my Cutler Hammer box crammed and still need power for my garage - I have only one outlet on an already overloaded circuit. I'm running a gas line to the garage soon to use a newer Kenmore 27", it's cheaper to operate and excellent for "grunt" day to day drying.
Our power went out in a storm last night at midnight and was out until 4 PM today, no cooking, vacuuming, washing, a/c, TV...the house is too quiet with nothing running, I nearly went out of my mind!!
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Post# 30762-7/6/2003-20:05 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (gas/electric)
MESSAGE: Hi Kenmore'78, you've obviously have never been to my house. I think you confusing me with a "normal" person. I have 30 or so automatic washers, 3 gas dryers, 5 electric dryers, 2 electric stoves, one pink built in oven, most of which will hopefully be hooked up by year's end, plus we need 2 extra 220volt outlets for Central Air. 100 Amp and 16 slots ain't gonna cut it. A new shiny 40 slot 200 amp panel is a must have in our house.
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Post# 30763-7/6/2003-21:23 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (Your electric company loves you)
MESSAGE: I'd hate to see your energy and water bill but I guess it's all worth it.
So how's your Har... uhh... I'll ask in the Sandbox :-D
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Post# 30764-7/6/2003-21:46 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (Your electric company loves you)
MESSAGE: Hi Jason,
My bills aren't really higher than anyone elses, I don't do any more laundry than most others, I just have lots of choices in which to do those eight or so loads a week.
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Post# 30765-7/7/2003-01:06 ||| loveoldkitchens (Elizabeth, NJ)
SUBJECT: RE: Help identifying an old Frigidaire (!)
MESSAGE: Thank you Thank you Thank you, Greg!
Was very kind of you to share your knowledge with me. Like I said, I had a hunch it was between '52 & '55. You're totally right about the "roll to you" shelves, and the Picture Window Hydrator (wondered what that thing was called) All parts are there and in excellent condition, runs like a champ. Only thing needs to be replaced is the rubber gasket. See, we had a fire in the house we just moved ino last year, and since we have to rebuild anyway, we're tearing apart the awful, new (horrors!) style kitchen that was there and remodeling it in late '40s/early 50's style. I lucked out with the fridge for only 25.00 from a nice old lady at an estate sale. She even turned down a 150.00 offer from a dealer cause she wanted me to have it.
oh, yeah, and it's that cool vintage mint green color inside, too!
Sorry to run on, and thank you again, Greg for taking the time out to help me.
Cheryl
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Post# 30766-7/7/2003-01:15 ||| loveoldkitchens (Elizabeth, NJ)
SUBJECT: RE: Help identifying an old Frigidaire
MESSAGE: Thank you Thank you Thank you, Greg!
It was very kind of you to help me out with this. I had a hunch it was between 52 and 55. You're right about the "roll to you" shelves and the Picture Window Hydrator (so that's what it's called) It's in excellent condition w/all icetrays and parts intact, plus it's that cool vintage minty green inside. I really lucked on the price too - 25.00 from a nice elderly lady selling her home. She even turned down 150.00 from a dealer cause she wanted me to have it.
See, we inherited an older house last year and had an electrical fire. So we're remodeling right now and tearing out the horrible "new" style kitchen that was there and re-doing it like late 40's/early 50's style. So the fridge will fit right in. The only thing I have to find is a new gasket for it and it's set.
Anyhow, sorry to run on and thank you very much again for taking the time out to help me.
Cheryl
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Post# 30767-7/7/2003-01:24 ||| loveoldkitchens (Elizabeth, NJ)
SUBJECT: Thank you Greg (gansky1)
MESSAGE: Thank you very much for your help w/my Frigidaire question. You're right about the "roll to you" shelves. It's in excellent condition and runs like a champ. See, we had a house fire last year, so we're remodeling our kitchen to a late 40's/early 50's style. I picked up the fridge at an estate sale for 25.00. Oh, and it's that cool vintage minty green color inside, white on the outside. It's got all the original icetrays and really the only thing wrong is it needs a new rubber door gasket. So the search begins...
Sorry to run on, and thank you again for taking the time out to help me, it was very kind of you.
Cheryl
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Post# 30768-7/7/2003-01:28 ||| loveoldkitchens (Elizabeth, NJ)
SUBJECT: OOOOOOPS! SORRY FOR MULTIPLE POSTS!!!!!!
MESSAGE: Please forgive me for the multiple posts! After the first two, it told me my messages were blank and nothing was posted. So I figured I'd post a new one. Then all THREE showed up!
So don't be mad guys, I'm new....be gentle..
Cheryl
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Post# 30769-7/7/2003-05:34 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Older dishwashers short wash cycles (Sears dishwasher overhaul)
MESSAGE: Actually, I've accumulated all the needed parts from Sears, amazingly, only a couple of parts are no longer available. Formerly when I ordered parts, they came labeled as Frigidaire parts. Now I notice that parts are coming labeled as Electrolux, I guess they're finally taking advantage of their trademark agreement with Electrolux floor care folks. The original door panel was porcelain on steel, the new new one is plastic backed up by a steel frame, and the detergent dispenser is TOTALLY different, now being the round type with the flip open doors covering the cups instead of the flip out cup of the original dispenser.
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Post# 30770-7/7/2003-05:39 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (gas/electric)
MESSAGE: WOW, you ARE going to need major power! of course, you could try to collect only the gas versions of any particular model, but it really depends on where you live. As I've mentioned here before, I live in Los Angeles and virtually EVERY dryer I've seen being tossed out on the lawn waiting for the city to take it away was a gas dryer. Electric versions are maybe every 10th one, and even then it's usually a portable model.
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Post# 30771-7/7/2003-05:45 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (100 amps)
MESSAGE: I don't think even 200 amps is gonna cut it! You're approaching laundromat specifications! So how big's that water main to your house.....:-)
One thing about gas, you can hook up a LOT of gas appliances before you actually have to go to a bigger main.
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Post# 30772-7/7/2003-06:09 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (Your electric company loves you)
MESSAGE: True, but you'll sure be ready for a wash-in! Gee, I can heal the symphony of all those solenoids, clutches, motors, and relays now :-)
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Post# 30773-7/7/2003-06:21 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Appliances Deep South Wash-In (LG New set)
MESSAGE: So what modern set are the new LG's replaceing
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Post# 30774-7/7/2003-07:15 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Appliances Deep South Wash-In (LG New set)
MESSAGE: Actually, I didn't have a modern set. I used my 1-18's as my primary set; but, I decided to get the LG set to cut down on their wear and tear.
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Post# 30775-7/7/2003-10:13 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (gas/electric)
MESSAGE: Robert,
Glad that you are getting the larger circuit box...you won't regret it!
Duane
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Post# 30776-7/7/2003-10:15 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (gas/electric)
MESSAGE: Are you sure you will only need a 40 slot panel Robert? I have 1 40 slot 200 amp main panel that is full and had to add a 20 slot sub-panel which by year end might have to upgraded to a 40 slot.......
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Post# 30777-7/7/2003-10:43 ||| sandrapage (Marquette, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Marion Electric Stove
MESSAGE: First time posting. We have a Marion electric stove in the cabin we just bought. It has lovely clean lines, rounded edges, good condition finish, the racks in the oven are quite rusted. It seems to work, have not yet tested the temperature in the oven. Has anyone any information on this stove? We had a great 1947 chrome yellow Chambers in our last house and know the pleasure of a classic stove. Do we have another one?
Sandra
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Post# 30778-7/7/2003-11:23 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Older dishwashers short wash cycles (Sears dishwasher overhaul)
MESSAGE: I'm confused...if this is the dishwasher I'm thinking of, the one with the electronic buttons and the little door that slides over them, isn't that a D&M product? Did that become part of WCI at some point too?
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Post# 30779-7/7/2003-11:26 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (gas/electric)
MESSAGE: California seems to be a very gas-oriented place. With the propensity for earthquakes and the minimal need for household heating, one would almost think there would be no gas installed there at all, but it is of course quite the opposite.
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Post# 30780-7/7/2003-11:46 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Unimatic's washer videos
MESSAGE: To the original members of this club:
A while back Robert had videotape of his washers in action. He said that one of you guys has it and I wonder if I can get a copy it.
Thanks.
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Post# 30781-7/7/2003-13:19 ||| Bearcat (Roselle, IL)
SUBJECT: HELP WITH GE RANGE - SENSI-TEMP FEATURE
MESSAGE: I have inherited an older GE Electric Range (1960's?). The range is in great shape except for one thing. It has a feature on one of the burners called "Sensi-Temp". There is a sensor in the left, front burner, a temperature set dial on the backsplash, and push buttons to select 4", 6", 8", or griddle pan size. The burner is not working. It begins to heat but quickly shuts down. GE has been no help at all. There appears to be several components to the system and some of the parts seem to be available (but expensive). Can anyone help with diagnostic information? Can anyone explain the components? Copies of pages out of a service manual would be very helpful. Any ideas on where I can obtain them? Thanks for any help you can give me.
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Post# 30782-7/7/2003-16:11 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Unimatic's washer videos (Member links)
MESSAGE: Jason,
If you go to the member links on this page you will find there links to Dadoes' 2001 convention pictures part 1 and part 2. If you go there, you will find lots of videos at the bottom of both pages. Wonderful videos (and pictures).
Louis
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Post# 30783-7/7/2003-17:46 ||| salvoboy (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (gas/electric)
MESSAGE: Hi Scott-
Yes, California is a very gas-oriented place. It is the dominant fuel for heating, cooking, hot water. It's also quite common for clothes drying. I think it has to do with our expensive electricity for one thing. Our low NOx gas burners also burn cleanly so gas is pretty good for smog compared to oil for heating. As far as earthquakes go, our building codes take care of much of that concern. Hot water heaters are strapped to the wall and most homeowners know exactly how to turn off their gas at the main. Some folks even have seismic trip devices on the meter. I have a crescent wrench taped to mine. That's earthquake 101. Meanwhile, in Northern Calif. we have a moderately long heating season. I'd hate to do that with anything but gas just as I'd hate to dry clothes with anything but gas with electricity at near 15 cents/kw.
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Post# 30784-7/7/2003-18:16 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (gas/electric)
MESSAGE: Oh the cost, of course. Our electricity is about half that here.
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Post# 30785-7/7/2003-18:31 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Make beer in a washing machine
MESSAGE: This is a German priest who makes beer in what looks like a twin-tub hooked up to a computer.
Louis might be able to translate this for us.
Go to "Bierbrauen" there's a link with the word "maschine", click it and you'll see the washer.
LINK: http://www.m-fey.de
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Post# 30786-7/7/2003-19:21 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: TESTING GE SENSI-TEMP
MESSAGE: One test is to connect the two leads from the sensor together and see if the control runs on high only. If so, you have a bad sensor. Those either have white or yellow wires, and you have to replace with the same color sensor...good chance that's the trouble. In other words, put a wire nut on the two wires running up to the control, in place of the sensor - bypass the sensor & see if the unit operates on high only....
B
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Post# 30787-7/7/2003-22:15 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: GE Mobile Maid DW
MESSAGE: found a GE mobile maid DW, not sure on the date, model # SM200, does anyone know year ?? I am guessing late sixties or very early seventies. It is in excellent condition and works fine. Pics to follow......
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Post# 30788-7/7/2003-22:26 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Older dishwashers short wash cycles (Modern Frigidaire cleaning deficiency)
MESSAGE: Frigidaire dishwashers were ALWAYS the weak performance link in their product line up. (I feel a slap coming on fur sure)!!!
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Post# 30789-7/7/2003-23:35 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Older dishwashers short wash cycles (Sears dishwasher overhaul)
MESSAGE: "I'm confused...if this is the dishwasher I'm thinking of, the one with the electronic buttons and the little door that slides over them, isn't that a D&M product? Did that become part of WCI at some point too?"
Yes and yes, and WCI is owned by Electrolux, largest appliance maker in the world (Whirlpool is #2 in world, though #1 in US.)
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Post# 30790-7/7/2003-23:38 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (gas/electric)
MESSAGE: Ironically, the larger of the 2 electric utilities that serve Southern California (Southern California Edison) used to own what became Southern California Gas in the early 1900's, but sold it because they didn't see a "future" in gas.
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Post# 30791-7/7/2003-23:57 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Older dishwashers short wash cycles (Frigidaire weak link)
MESSAGE: When Granny got the new appliances for the house she built in 1963, she insisted on all Frigidaire appliances, but I remember her specifically saying she DIDN'T
like their clothes washers. She would occasionally wash in one of her friend's Frigidaire wahsers when she would visit them, and it was one of the 3 ring agitator "tanglers", so I think that had something to do with it. When she did get a washer it was a '56 GE that sat brand new and unused until 1960 when we moved into a different house that could accomodate it.
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Post# 30792-7/8/2003-01:55 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Make beer in a washing machine
MESSAGE: Jason,
That is not a twintub, but an automatic H-axis washer that just doesn't spin. The beer recipes are not for brewing in a washer.
Louis
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Post# 30793-7/8/2003-05:03 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Mobile Maid DW (Mobile Maid Dishwasher)
MESSAGE: I am looking forward to seeing pic's. Does it have a pink interior,? does it have a power shower on the lid,. I have been looking for one of these for some time. I'm hoping for a GE drawer style built in with a power shower, inpeller wash. I know before they did the switch over to pump wash the later impeller wash machines had this power shower on the lid but have never seen on a built in model. Do you or anyone else know of any other impeller wash machines that was the drawer style. Any info or pic's would be greatly appreciated. I have 3 top loader portables now & looking for a good home for them. Still in the hunt for a GE impeller wash built in or Westinghouse impeller wash built in. My 3rd choice is a GE mobile Maid portable. Not so easy to find here. Looking forward to seeing those pic's. Have a great day Michael
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Post# 30794-7/8/2003-07:43 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Mobile Maid DW (GE Mobile Maid DW)
MESSAGE: Mike, it is top load and has the power shower, three level wash, even has the original owner's manual, it has a light blue interior. It has a stainless steel spray arm with a tower that rises in the middle. Pics will come ... ...
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Post# 30795-7/8/2003-08:12 ||| davy1063 (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: Unimatic's washer videos
MESSAGE: Just emailed you the two I had. They were from a turquoise rollermatic ('65 I believe).
Let me know if these are the ones.
Dave
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Post# 30796-7/8/2003-09:58 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Unimatic's washer videos
MESSAGE: No. Way back when, Robert videoed the complete wash cycles of the ABC-O-Matic, the '58 Unimatic, the WP combo and the '59 Duomatic. I believe this is the tape Jason so covets. Clips from this tape can be pulled digitally from the museum. My tape is buried somewhere...
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Post# 30797-7/8/2003-10:33 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Mobile Maid DW (GE Mobile Maid DW)
MESSAGE: Greg, is this an all-push button model like one john had in the warehouse at the convention last August? I'd love to see a copy of the owners manual if it is. Bob
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Post# 30798-7/8/2003-10:39 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Unimatic's washer videos (tape)
MESSAGE: Glenn (DADoES) is making a copy of this. Robert no longer has the master tape. Of course, I'm gonna burn it to DVD so it never gets worn out.
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Post# 30799-7/8/2003-10:40 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Unimatic's washer videos (tape)
MESSAGE: Glenn (DADoES) is making a copy of this. Robert no longer has the master tape. Of course, I'm gonna burn it to DVD so it never gets worn out.
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Post# 30800-7/8/2003-11:06 ||| salvoboy (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (gas/electric)
MESSAGE: Yeah, that is kind of funny. Especially since The Gas Company is the largest gas utility in the country and is owned by a parent that is also an electric utility (Sempra/San Diego G&E). Talk about things coming full-circle. Staying more on the subject of appliances...
How do we explain that uniquely Los Angeles phenomenon of apartments not coming with refrigerators? I've lived all over the US and Vancouver BC and nowhere was that common but LA. Are/were Angelenos the original classic appliance collectors? Could it be they just couldn't part with that '63 Frigidaire or that '57 Kelvinator, so they just moved them from place to place? Maybe even more interesting is the huge market of used refrigerators. Hmmm... now there's an opportunity.
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Post# 30801-7/8/2003-14:49 ||| Nutoner (Arizona)
SUBJECT: Nutone Food Center
MESSAGE: I am looking for a Nutone Food Center. It is an undercounter motor which drives blenders, knife sharpeners, ice shavers, etc. Parts or complete unit desired.
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Post# 30802-7/8/2003-17:15 ||| FNELSON487 (St. Charles, Il)
SUBJECT: James Portable Dishwasher on Ebay
MESSAGE: Well guys, you've seen it on POD and here is one for sale. Too bad it doesn't have to stove to slip into.
Fred Nelson
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3232565469&category=12514
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Post# 30803-7/8/2003-21:41 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Mobile Maid DW (GE Mobile Maid DW)
MESSAGE: BOB, no it just has the control dial in the upper right front, and that is all, no special cycles or pushbuttons whatsoever
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Post# 30804-7/8/2003-23:07 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: James Portable Dishwasher on Ebay (Where is it?)
MESSAGE: Hmmm, where is the dishwasher located, it doesn't seem to say in the ad?
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Post# 30805-7/8/2003-23:08 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: That's more like it
MESSAGE: The Harmony is cute but I was starting to go through withdrawls, aaahhhhhhh.......
LINK: http://classicappliances.com/TEMP/Thats_more_like_it.jpg
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Post# 30806-7/8/2003-23:51 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: James Portable Dishwasher on Ebay (Where is it?)
MESSAGE: The location must not be a required field anymore. Since they started with this new format, I've noticed some have a location and some do not.
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Post# 30807-7/8/2003-23:52 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: That's more like it
MESSAGE: First vintage machine in the new basement, and such a pretty one at that! Gotta love that windowed dryer door though, gives one pause as to why perhaps they did not place one on the washer...
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Post# 30808-7/8/2003-23:59 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (Los Angeles apartment refrigerators)
MESSAGE: Having lived in or near L.A. all my life, I guess I was sheltered because virtually all the people I knew who lived in apartments provided their own refrigerators, so I thought this was the "norm" everywhere. This seemed to be just as well since the few I knew where a fridge WAS provided, it almost always was some small, cheap, one door, manual defrost model, usually abused by the former tenant with broken and missing parts and dirty.
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Post# 30809-7/9/2003-00:16 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (Los Angeles apartment refrigerators)
MESSAGE: I agree, but then I suppose I would being an appliance buff, LOL. I would much rather buy or choose appliances to my own liking. I remember when my sister moved to CA years ago they bought a refrigerator for their apartment and I was thinking, I like that system! She did too.
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Post# 30810-7/9/2003-00:31 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Mobile Maid DW
MESSAGE: Hi Greg - another great find, you let me know when you have a garage sale...I'll be there!
Does your model number on this GE Mobile Maid have any letters & numbers after the SM200? My GE book has several SM200xx series dishwashers in the late 60's. The serial number would also help pinpoint it too.
Greg N
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Post# 30811-7/9/2003-00:39 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: James Portable Dishwasher on Ebay (Where is it?)
MESSAGE: There seem to be a lot of gaps in the description and shipping info of this item. Evidently they have a pool as it lists "poolside" for payment acceptance under location and she also lists the shipping cost as $100 for inside the US. Strange, I would think it would cost more unless they are planning on just writing the name and address on it and stick $100 in postage stamps on the top!
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Post# 30812-7/9/2003-00:46 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: That's more like it
MESSAGE: There's nothing in the world like the hum of a unimatic....I wouldn't be able to stand it either, no matter what the new washer was!
Have you done a spin test yet?
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Post# 30813-7/9/2003-01:07 ||| JAKINS (Kissimmee, Fl.)
SUBJECT: RE: James Portable Dishwasher on Ebay (Where is it?)
MESSAGE: Hi Guys
The seller emailed me and the dishwasher is in Youngstown Ohio.
John
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Post# 30814-7/9/2003-07:13 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: That's more like it
MESSAGE: Robert, now how on earth did I KNOW that the WCI58 would be the FIRST one brought out of storage and connected. I don't blame ya for going through withdrawls. I kinda have the same experience. I thoroughly enjoy being able to do laundry over the phone with Greg so that I can hear a Frigidaire ever few weeks, or at least once a month. Whew!!!!!! But I'm also getting very BORED with my shredmore. I pine for something exciting to watch when doing wash. I even waited last night until my dishwasher finished running before I called a friend of mine, just so I could listen to it run through the cycle.
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Post# 30815-7/9/2003-07:14 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: That's more like it (Spin Test)
MESSAGE: No spin test yet, but don't worry with Jetcone coming in for the weekend we sure will do lots of washing tests!
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Post# 30816-7/9/2003-07:16 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: James Portable Dishwasher on Ebay (Shameful)
MESSAGE: WHAT, a James DW in Youngstown??? Ohhh how NAUGHTY, they surely should have bought a Youngstown Jet-Tower.
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Post# 30817-7/9/2003-07:32 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: That's more like it
MESSAGE: Now install a Kelvinator, and a Kenmore 800 and it would be PERFECT!
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Post# 30818-7/9/2003-07:40 ||| Gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Mobile Maid DW (date-gansky)
MESSAGE: Hey Greg, I will find out the exact model and serial #'s and let you know so you can possibly help me with the date. Garage sale or not, your welcome here anytime ... ... ...
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Post# 30819-7/9/2003-07:51 ||| Frigilux (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: Harmony at Uni's
MESSAGE: What's all this then? A non-vintage laundry pair at Uni's?! Has the world spun off its axis? Congrats on the new place, Uni!
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Post# 30820-7/9/2003-09:36 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (Los Angeles apartment refrigerators)
MESSAGE: I have often been surprised reading posts here about people organizing for a washer and dryer to be "left" for the new owners/tenants. Here in Aus you ALWAYS expect to provide all your own appliances, except perhaps where there are shared laundry facilities (which is unusual). I have never heard of a fridge being left, occasionally a washer will be left but only if it is an unwanted piece of junk. The only exception is dishwashers which are usually part of the sale. I have heard of disputes over dishwashers, where there was one when the house was on display but it had vanished once the contracts were signed. Usually these days the sale contract mentions if any "fixtures and fittings" are included in the sale and lists them as part of the contract.
Chris.
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Post# 30821-7/9/2003-09:41 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Harmony at Uni's
MESSAGE: It's all in the name.
To keep Uni's collection of special machines safe, he bought a modern set for his partner to use.
->This gives freedom from laundry-related arguments.
->domestic HARMONY.
Chris :)
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Post# 30822-7/9/2003-09:59 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: Fire Destroys vintage Parts Warehouse
MESSAGE: Fellow Club members
My supplier for vintage parts went up in flames over the fourth of July holiday. I am distraught to say the least all those wonderful part gone up in smoke. A gold mine gone to further restorations.
Oh well such is life sometimes
Philippe
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Post# 30823-7/9/2003-11:11 ||| Pulsator (826 Vesper ,Ann Arbor, Michigan 48103)
SUBJECT: RE: That's more like it (Robert, I have a quick question.)
MESSAGE: Listen, I know this is off topic but I can't find the link to the sandbox, what is the brand of that modern set?! If you are going to sell them for more vintage, I pay you $300.00 for that washer! I have never seen anything like it! Do you think I could possibly have a picture of the interior of that washer?
Best Washes
-Jamie-
LINK: http://classicappliances.com/TEMP/Thats_more_like_it.jpg
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Post# 30824-7/9/2003-11:31 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: That's more like it (Robert, I have a quick question.)
MESSAGE: Hi there Jamie. Click the link below to go to the off-topic sandbox. Look for the thread "The New Set" and go back to the first few post. I have posted quite a few pictures of the interior, including the machine operating. As for your offer, thank you very much, but I think for now I'm going to keep the set, it will be going into the "modern laundry" room in my new basement.
Maybe I should call that room the "Sandbox". LOL
LINK: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Applianceville-Sandbox/messages
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Post# 30825-7/9/2003-11:35 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (Los Angeles apartment refrigerators)
MESSAGE: That's how it works here too. You bring your own appliances unless there are integrated appliances like dishwashers and ovens. When you move out a rental you can only leave a washer behind if the new tenant agrees to that. Otherwise the washer will probably be removed by the owner and you end up paying the costs for that.
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Post# 30826-7/9/2003-12:33 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: That's more like it (Robert, I have a quick question.)
MESSAGE: "Pulsator":
The set that you see sitting beside that 1958 Frigidaire Unimatic is the 2003 General Electric Profile Harmony Clothes Care Set. The washer is kind of built like a Whirlpool Gold/Kenmore Elite Calypso, but the wash tub/agitation plate inside of the GE Profile does not use a turning/rocking motion like the Whirlpool Gold/Kenmore Elite Calypso does. The GE instead uses a reverse centrifusion action. It does (talking about the GE Profile Harmony) have a stainless steel wash tub just like other premium washers the Harmony competes with. The premise for designing this washer in the first place is (just like Whirlpool did with the Calypso) is to provide the performance and energy saving benefits of a front loader with the convenience of a top loader. Maytag also has an interesting design coming out soon. I believe that model is called a top loading "Neptune" washer. The GE Profile Harmony is an interesting washer in its own right. But the one that seems to be holding my interest is that top loading "Neptune" from Maytag. When that one comes out, I cannot wait to see that one. I wonder if Best Buy is going to carry that one too. The are already carrying the LG front loading models. I like the LGs as well.
Oh........ by the way, I believe the GE Profile Harmony retails for about $1,200.00 (with the dryer retailing for almost $1,000.00). So...... I don't know if "Uni" is going to let that one go for just $300.00. But that's just my opinion.
I like the GE Profile Harmony myself. Definitely, one of the best washers that GE has came out with in a long time.
--Charles--
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Post# 30827-7/9/2003-16:10 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (Los Angeles apartment refrigerators)
MESSAGE: From experience here, a built-in dishwasher is expected to stay, unless negotiated that it would be replaced with a different one and the original one taken. This rarely happens. In the case of refrigerators/ranges/washers/dryers, the new owners are asked if they want them, if they do, they're negotiated with the price of the house, if not, the old owners take them with them, or if the new house already has appliances, the ones from the old house are removed and either given away or sold.
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Post# 30828-7/9/2003-16:19 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: My Ideal Washer
MESSAGE: Hi Guys hope your all well, I just wanna tell you all that my Hotpoint front loader has now died compleatly. The good news is I will be taking delivery of a Hotpoint top loader automatic, circa 1980s. The machine has been refurbished with various new parts, new brake etc. The beuty of this machine is, it has a quick wash cycle on it which will have great savings on electric and running costs. It has 3 water wash levels and 2 wash speeds and 2 spin speed cyles 500 revs and 1040 revs. After filling the machine starts with a short detergent dissolve wash then is stops, then the machine heats the water to the chosen wash temperature. Hotpoint then fires up again and washes the clothes for the set time. After a neutral drain, the clothes are automatically spun and spin sprayed. The only disadvantage is the machine performs 1 main agitated cold rinse cycle, I am looking forward to this machine comeing, I had a Hotpoint Liberartor top loader back in the 80s and I loved that machine. It had to go because I was unemployed at the time and could not afford to run this machine.
If all goes well I will provide pics and vids of this machine in action regards to all
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Post# 30829-7/9/2003-16:29 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: My Ideal Washer
MESSAGE: Sounds great! My friend Mike, who is also a UK member of this club, has two of these machines. We used them when I visited last year. Very nice machines! He likes them too.
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Post# 30830-7/9/2003-16:36 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: My Ideal Washer
MESSAGE: Those UK Hotpoints have that classic Spiralator type agitator. I can't wait to see videos.
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Post# 30831-7/9/2003-16:49 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Another storm
MESSAGE: TS Claudette is headed west for Mexico but she could decide to turn north and come to the wash-in... or should I say WASH-OUT? An unwelcome guest to the wash-in indeed.
Let's keep our fingers crossed and hope the washer gods play in our favor and not let that storm ruin a perfectly good Saturday.
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Post# 30832-7/9/2003-16:49 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Another storm
MESSAGE: TS Claudette is headed west for Mexico but she could decide to turn north and come to the wash-in... or should I say WASH-OUT? An unwelcome guest to the wash-in indeed.
Let's keep our fingers crossed and hope the washer gods play in our favor and not let that storm ruin a perfectly good Saturday.
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Post# 30833-7/9/2003-17:49 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: My Ideal Washer (If my run of bad luck runs out )
MESSAGE: If my run of bad luck runs out guys, you will see the vids and pics of my washer. it may take a few weeks so do bear with me
Yes Hotpoint did use the spiralator agitator on the toploaders and twin tubs of the 1970s and 1980s, regards to all.
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Post# 30834-7/9/2003-19:33 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Fire Destroys vintage Parts Warehouse
MESSAGE: Philippe, I am so sorryl I feel like I've been kicked in the stomach. If I feel like this, I can't imagine how you feel. Hope no one was hurt though. Bob
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Post# 30835-7/9/2003-19:40 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: My Ideal Washer
MESSAGE: Congratulations on the "new" washer. Sounds fascinating. 1040 rpms, hmm, too bad our domestic top loaders built back then couldn't do such a performance. How much water does a maximum fill for the wash cycle consume? I'd like to know how long it takes to heat the water to specific temps with that volume of water. And really with a spray rinse at 1040 rpms, that should helpt with the rinsing quite well. And I'm glad you posted again. Welcome back!!! Please keep returning. Bob
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Post# 30836-7/9/2003-19:47 ||| washinmomma (Texas)
SUBJECT: Pink Kenmore Wringer Washer
MESSAGE: I have found a Pink, Sears Kenmore 2 Speed Wringer Washer. It is not in working condition, but I believe with a little tlc it would be a wonderful machine.
I have never seen a pink one, but My Mom still uses her Maytag Wringer, and my Grandma used hers up till last year when she passed away. I used one for the first 5 years I was married, and I loved it. My diapers (yes, cloth Diapers, and I'm under 50) were the cleanest in the neighborhood.
I would like to know if someone here knows what year etc. this washer was made. I think I might get it fixed, and USE it.
Thanks a bunch. washinmomma
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Post# 30837-7/9/2003-20:15 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Pink Kenmore Wringer Washer
MESSAGE: The Sears wringers are wonderful machines. One of our clubmembers has one, and yes I have seen the pink ones, aren't they fun! Maybe Greg (the owner of that washer) or someone here might have an idea about repairs, and I'm don't know about that or if any parts would be available, or what have you. Do you know what might be wrong with it? You may already know this, but you do have to move the timer to "hold" or to a time to get it to start, they don't just start up when you plug it in like a Maytag does.
If you want to find out the year it was made, look for the model plate. It should say 110.xx, where xx would be the last two numbers of the year of manufacture. It was probably made sometime in the early 1960s. Hope you can get it running and enjoy!
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Post# 30838-7/9/2003-22:50 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Pink Kenmore Wringer Washer (wringer washers)
MESSAGE: For diapers, a wringer washer is excellent becuase you can set it to wash and wash and wash and wash and wash without having to watch over and re-set the controls on like on an automatic
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Post# 30839-7/9/2003-22:58 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Pink Kenmore Wringer Washer (wringer washers)
MESSAGE: One thing I can say about Whirlpool, rarely have I run into an obsolete part situation, even for stuff that 's pretty old. Last problem I had is that the Triple Dispenser lid for my 1978 LadyK Solid State only comes in white now (the machine is Coffee) but it least it WAS available. So I suspect you'll have no trouble getting whatever part is needed to get Pinky going, and then there's always the aftermarket part makers.
When I worked at Wards in 1972 they were still selling wringer washers and had one on the sales floor with the Signature (Norge clones) automatics
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Post# 30840-7/10/2003-00:53 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: My Ideal Washer
MESSAGE: Congratulations on the new washer. They were never sold overhere in the Netherlands. Otherwise I sure would be wanting one.
Louis
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Post# 30841-7/10/2003-03:12 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: combination washer-dryers
MESSAGE: They seem to be making a cmeback, does anyone know who was the last domestic manufacturer to make one? I heard it was 1969, at least for Kenmore/Whirlpool, but no confirmation. They were fairly popular here in L.A., where most older houses (Teen's/20's) have no basement, only a small "service porch" with room for only one machine, and even then often a laundry sink had to be removed.
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Post# 30842-7/10/2003-04:08 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: combination washer-dryers (Re: Combo's:)
MESSAGE: Hey! kenmore1978, I'm not totally sure, but I think that the Kenmore Washer/Dryer Combo's were Manufactured until about 1971 or 1972. I do remember talking to some Repairmen of around that time and their telling me that the Combo's had finally gotten pretty well prefected, being so much better operating, after their past of Frequent Repair's, besides not having a very Fast Spin, thus taking longer to Dry the Laundry and then "Go-figure" they discontinue them. I' ve not been as familiar with the Whirlpool Brand of Washer's and Dryer's, but on of my Aunt's and Uncle's owned a late 1950s Whirlpool Combo that was quite tall and had a Flat Top area, with the Timer on the Front-Left and a Water and Heat Temp Control on the
Mid-Right Side. It had a large Square Framed Door with a Large Round Window and it had the Resavoir below the Tub where the Water was Pumped into the Washer from the Lower-Left creating a Shower to the Upper-Right and the Laundry fell towards the Showering Water with a Counter Clock-Wise Tumbling. It looked like a Giant to me, being at the time that I first saw it, I was only 15-years old and that was my first experiance of ever seeing or knowing about a Combo Unit.
If you are not familiar with my Profile, I have a 1965 Lady-K Combo in Avocado Green and an approximate 1967 "MOL" Kenmore Combo in White. The 1967 Combo needs some checking out again and some medium amount of Lint removal from the Pump and Reservoir Tank and to check out the Hoses of both Units.
Other than that, I'm ont sure how long any other Brand's of Combo's were Manufactured, but I'm sure that someone in the Club no doubt might know which Brands and how long they were Manufactured.
Best Regards, Steve "SactoTeddyBear"
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Post# 30843-7/10/2003-08:15 ||| mrb627 (Atlanta GA)
SUBJECT: RE: combination washer-dryers (Sensor Dry?)
MESSAGE: Didn't the Kenmore model have Sensor Drying rather than a timed selection? Wasn't that pretty advanced technology back then?
Malcolm
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Post# 30844-7/10/2003-08:36 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (Los Angeles apartment refrigerators)
MESSAGE: I helped a friend move to LA five years ago and when we got into his apartment, I thought it would have been better if he'd brought his own refrigerator, stove and bathroom - yuk!
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Post# 30845-7/10/2003-08:39 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: combination washer-dryers
MESSAGE: I think I remember hearing once that GE was the last domestic combo, but I'm sure it was neck and neck with Whirlpool as they were still making them in the early 70's as well.
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Post# 30846-7/10/2003-08:41 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Pink Kenmore Wringer Washer (wringer washers)
MESSAGE: It's amazing sometimes what is still available from Sears, take the model number to the website or the local service center and see what comes up.
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Post# 30847-7/10/2003-08:43 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Pink Kenmore Wringer Washer
MESSAGE: Wow - a pink one! Can you tell us what does the machine do when you plug it in and turn it on? Do you hear the motor running? Does it agitate or wringer turn? Does the pump engage?
Congrats on your fun find and keep us posted on the progress.
Greg
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Post# 30848-7/10/2003-09:12 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: all arranged
MESSAGE: Hi guys, just to let you all know a date has been set for the delivery of the washer it was meant for today but a problem has occured on a seal, this will be replaced very soon. I have been reasured the washer will be here this comeing Monday morning, so wish me luck.
The vids have been arranged as well, they will be done in the next 3 weeks. Hopefully I will have them uploaded to my i s p Blueyonder, very soon. kindest regards to all HBMUK
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Post# 30849-7/10/2003-09:57 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: Visit to New York
MESSAGE: Steve118 & Rhinnie are in New York. Last night we went to PcRichards appliances in the city and had a great time checking out appliances. We saw the new LG (but no combos)
Than we had a nice chinese food dinner.
Peter
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Post# 30850-7/10/2003-10:28 ||| Activator (Tulsa, OK)
SUBJECT: Suggestions?
MESSAGE: Hello, everybody! I just updated my profile and wanted to say "hey" (we are SO articulate here in Oklahoma) and to ask if any of you have suggestions/recommendations for front-loading machines. Vic and I are using a Roper (Ripper) that is systematically destroying everything due to its apparant abuse of appliance amphetamines. I mean, that thing agitates FAST - and with rather shallow, chopping strokes. And the slow speed (which is still VERY fast) is ineffective because of the shortness of the strokes.
Remember vintage Maytags? Slow, long, smooth strokes, the hot, sudsy water steadily churning, the deep-toned vibration of the motor...but I digress.
While I would love to get a nice "center post agitator" machine, I'm not really sure they are still being made. Do ALL the new machines either have that corkscrew on the agitator, and/or are they all flapping and slapping a million miles an hour, like they're late for an appointment elsewhere? Sheeesh.
I'd love some feedback. And who has seen the Calypso (or its copies) in action? Is there video of it anywhere? Do things actually get clean?
I hope everyone has a really good day. Take care -
Mark (Activator)
liveforartman@yahoo.com
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Post# 30851-7/10/2003-11:48 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: Saved a westinghouse
MESSAGE: I saved a westinghouse slant deluxe dryer from the crusher today brought it home in the trunk of my buick LOL....pics will follow later today
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Post# 30852-7/10/2003-12:25 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: westinghouse pics so far
MESSAGE: heres the pics of it loaded in my car yet
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/oldappliancefreak/lst?&.dir=/Westinghouse&.src=ph&.view=t&start=1&.rand=710172429689
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Post# 30853-7/10/2003-13:00 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Suggestions?
MESSAGE: Fisher & Paykel has a very long agitation stroke, possibly as close as one can get to vintage nowadays. Speed Queen and Amana may also fit the bill, but I'm not intimately familiar with their current offerings.
Fisher & Paykel agitation
For a front-loader, try the new LG, a very handsome set.
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Post# 30854-7/10/2003-13:06 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: westinghouse pics so far
MESSAGE: Hey there, you've found a D-9 dryer, from 1956. I just love all my vintage westy slant-front machines.
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Post# 30855-7/10/2003-15:08 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: AEG available Stateside
MESSAGE: Anyone want this? It's in NJ...
-ph
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2334325600&category=20714
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Post# 30856-7/10/2003-15:31 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: combination washer-dryers (Moister Sensor Dry:)
MESSAGE: Hi! Malcolm, my Lady-K Combo just has an area that says "DRY" for the Dryer Cycle, so I would assume that it is Sensor Controlled, but my Thermostat Moisture Sensor, rather than the newer Electronic Moister Sensor's that most of the Dryer's have these days on the "MOL" to "TOL" Model's.
I don't recall on my newer "MOL" Combo, since it has been quite some time since I've even looked at it real close, due to being in Storage, but I would guess that it is similar to my Lady-K, having the Thermostat Moister Sensor, unless it does have Timed Drying as well.
When I am able to get my Combo's out and work on them again, I will certainly be glad to report either directly or through the Site, about my finding's unless someone else has any info to help both of us at this time.
Best Regards, Steve "SactoTeddyBear"
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Post# 30857-7/10/2003-15:48 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: combination washer-dryers (Newer Whirlpool Combo's:)
MESSAGE: Hi! Club Friend's, is it possible that someone might happen to have any newer Whirlpool Combo Photo's of like from the late 60s to final production's or close to of the 70s? I would like very much to know further when the Whirlpool Combo's production stopped and if it was at about the same time as the Kenmore's?
As I mentioned before, I'm not as familiar with Whirlpool's, since I grew up in a Kenmore house, besides Hotpoint and Frigidaire for Washer's and Dryer's, other than GE, Hotpoint and the other mentioned Brand's for Kitchen Appliances.
I did become more familiar with Whirlpool Appliances when I bought a new Tract House here in Sacramento, CA in 1986, that was supplied with a Whirlpool Stove, Dishwasher and optionally Refrigerator's Washer's and Dryer's, for those who were just starting house-keeping and didn't have the Appliances to accomodate them in their new houses.
Personally, the Model's supplied weren't worth the decision of the Contractor's, but they sufficed until I was able to replace them.
Basically now, I'm a Maytag, Kenmore and Amana preferred Customer, for new Appliances and everything bought new is bought with the Extended Contract's, because I won't work on my own newer Appliances, except for cleaning out the Lint in the Dryer's and lubricating the Drum Roller's and Belt Tension Pulley's.
Best Regards, Steve "SactoTeddyBear"
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Post# 30858-7/10/2003-17:48 ||| mrb627 (Atlanta GA)
SUBJECT: RE: combination washer-dryers (spin control)
MESSAGE: As I recall, since I touched a Lady K back in the 80's, that they had some form of a hydraulic spin system. Although I could be dreaming since it was a long time ago and my imagination tends to try to fill in gaps found in my reality.
Am I close on this one?
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Post# 30859-7/10/2003-19:00 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: westinghouse pics so far
MESSAGE: And I thought I was the only one that carries washers and dryers like that! LOL
Great job man!
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Post# 30860-7/10/2003-19:04 ||| mrb627 (Atlanta GA)
SUBJECT: Skinny-Mini?
MESSAGE: Is this a re-badged Skinny-Mini? It's hard to tell without a closeup shot of the interior, but I think it is...
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2334466296&category=42232
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Post# 30861-7/10/2003-19:13 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: combination washer-dryers (Sensor Dry?)
MESSAGE: Yes, the Lady Kenmore version of this W/D combo had auto dry. My next door neighbor had the LK version. Loved it. Also loved watching Uni's at his house, like being a child again. It also had a heater to help keep the water hot on hot wash. But a slow 250 rpm spin. No suspension of any consequence due to patents held by Bendix.
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Post# 30862-7/10/2003-19:29 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Skinny-Mini?
MESSAGE: Looks like a belt-drive Kenmore washer. Only Frigidaire had the SM with the Agitub. I'm about to go and watch one in operation saturday :-D
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Post# 30863-7/10/2003-19:57 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Visit to New York
MESSAGE: Sounds like fun guys. I would have loved to join you but this week has been tough for me to get into the city. Where did you all go for Chinese?
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Post# 30864-7/10/2003-20:05 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Skinny-Mini?
MESSAGE: This is a WCI/Electrolux machine - indexing plastic tub washer. The GM models are easy to spot as they had no water level control - time fill. It's amazing that the basic cabinet and dryer design stood the test of time for these stack units.
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Post# 30865-7/10/2003-20:06 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Skinny-Mini? (Video please...)
MESSAGE: Hopefully the weather will cooperate and you will be able to get some video of the Agitub washer - I have yet to see one in action so, pretty please with detergent on top???
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Post# 30866-7/10/2003-20:08 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Suggestions?
MESSAGE: Mark - the Amana still has the traditional long stroke agitation. However, their reliability - even though they are now owned by Maytag is not good. In fact, I had one for three years and the appliance store ended up exchanging it for me. Too bad, it had lots of great features and I really liked it. But a main tub seal leak did it in - it was decided that it was cheaper to replace than to repair. Truth is that no service people in my area of Connecticut wanted to even touch it. The Speed Queen would be more reliable and the design is similar to the Amana. I don't think they have stainless tubs anymore and they are difficult to find for home use - but not impossible.
One of the gentler "corkscrew" agitator washers is any Maytag whose model number begins with LAT (either 2600 or 3600). Definitely not as harsh as Whirlpool/Roper. But it has a smaller tub than most toploaders today and while not spartan by any means, it is not as feature rich as some other machines. But it is supposed to be based on the old Maytag dependable care construction that lasted for years and years. Not the most exciting machine made, but after the past 10 years of bad luck (2 GE's and the Amana) I will settle for some reliability. Of course when the right vintage washer comes along, that will be another story...
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Post# 30867-7/10/2003-20:08 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Suggestions?
MESSAGE: Mark - the Amana still has the traditional long stroke agitation. However, their reliability - even though they are now owned by Maytag is not good. In fact, I had one for three years and the appliance store ended up exchanging it for me. Too bad, it had lots of great features and I really liked it. But a main tub seal leak did it in - it was decided that it was cheaper to replace than to repair. Truth is that no service people in my area of Connecticut wanted to even touch it. The Speed Queen would be more reliable and the design is similar to the Amana. I don't think they have stainless tubs anymore and they are difficult to find for home use - but not impossible.
One of the gentler "corkscrew" agitator washers is any Maytag whose model number begins with LAT (either 2600 or 3600). Definitely not as harsh as Whirlpool/Roper. But it has a smaller tub than most toploaders today and while not spartan by any means, it is not as feature rich as some other machines. But it is supposed to be based on the old Maytag dependable care construction that lasted for years and years. Not the most exciting machine made, but after the past 10 years of bad luck (2 GE's and the Amana) I will settle for some reliability. Of course when the right vintage washer comes along, that will be another story...
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Post# 30868-7/10/2003-20:10 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: Duplicate Post
MESSAGE: Sorry about the duplicate non vintage post. Amazing how you could forget what you're doing as you're doing it.......
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Post# 30869-7/10/2003-20:13 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: westinghouse pics so far
MESSAGE: Congrats on the find - neat dryer. Is this the same car you strapped that Lady Kenmore combo to?
Just proves, if we want it bad enough...
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Post# 30870-7/10/2003-20:19 ||| AndrewInOrlando (Winter Park, FL)
SUBJECT: RE: Suggestions?
MESSAGE: Hiya Mark,
Regarding your question on recommendations for washers, I know Frigidaire still makes machines with center post agitators as does Amana. That's all that Amana makes. Reliability may be an issue for these two brands...check with other sources in the club on that one. I know lower line Whirlpool's still use a center post agitator, but I cannot vouch for their cleaning ability.
As for the Calypso, I have one and I love it (the Kenmore). It does a beautiful job and handles large items like my king size down comforter very well. I know lower line Whirlpool's still use a center post agitator, but I cannot vouch for their cleaning ability. In two years I haven't had any problems with it, but you absolutely MUST use HE detergents in it...no suds allowed in that machine.
Good luck in your hunt!
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Post# 30871-7/10/2003-20:27 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Visit to New York (Visit to New York)
MESSAGE: We actually were in midtown. I live in Westchester. How far up in conn are you located
Peter
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Post# 30872-7/10/2003-20:30 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Skinny-Mini? (Video please...)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg,
In some ways I do want to see a adjtub wash. But I was always disappoited the GM didn't use the pulsator method for this machine.
Peter
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Post# 30873-7/10/2003-20:39 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Skinny-Mini? (Video please...)
MESSAGE: I'm gonna shoot the whole cycle but I'll make clips of the highlights like the overflow, agitate, spin, etc.
Todd likes SUDZ so we're gonna make lots of em.
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Post# 30874-7/10/2003-20:43 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Skinny-Mini?
MESSAGE: Ya know. I have yet to even watch a WCI/Elux machine in action. I must not be missing much cause nobody likes 'em. My friend's parents have a new Frigidaire washer in the garage. It wasn't running but if it was, I would've watched.
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Post# 30875-7/10/2003-21:02 ||| coldspot66 (South of Boston, Mass)
SUBJECT: RE: Suggestions?
MESSAGE: hey all,
,Maytag has discontinued the dependable care line ( the design that they built their reputation on). They are introducing the 'legacy' series, which is a hybrid machine. It is basically an amana style washer with the atlantis 'superwash' transmission that has a shorter faster stroke than the old amana trannys.
Amana did not make a bad washer, but it was more expensive and did tend to leak through the tub seal early on.
stainless steel inner tub is nice, but doesn't make the machine last longer. My money is still on Whirlpool/Kenmore.
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Post# 30876-7/10/2003-21:47 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: westinghouse pics so far (greg)
MESSAGE: no that car was just a hair bigger plugged it in tonight works great chimes when its done lol
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Post# 30877-7/10/2003-22:54 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: lucky again this week, '49GE-DW found
MESSAGE: Last week I was fortunate enough to find a sixties GE Mobile Maid t/l DW in great shape and works fine. Well today I stopped at the recycler in MAss where I have befriended the guy who runs it and he likes the old stuff too. Finally found someone who appreciates what we do here in this club. So thanks to him I picked up a Maytag Washer A203 Serial 368607QQ, 1959-60ish??? its not top of the line and does not light up but it seems to be in such good shape that I could not let it go to the crusher, it needs a good cleaning/buffing on the cabinet, the inside tub (dark gray/almost black) is like new with a black agitator with a small narrow column, it does not have a lint filter, I don't think this machine was used much. BUT, the best was finding what I believe is a 1949 GE top-load, ROUND, portable DW, has the black bakelite impeller in the bottom intact, stainless steel removable racks, the inside is in amazingly good condition, there is some rust around the middle seem halfway down the cabinet on the outside and the bottom half could use repainting. I need to replace one of the hoses. It does not have a timer, just an on-off switch and a switch for drain/fill or wash/rinse, so you manually fill and drain this one. I am not sure how much water or how high your suppose to fill. I plugged it in and sure enough it does work BUT, the motor quits and just hums after about 30 seconds, then restarts again, and the same thing happens. There is nothing obstructing the movement of the impeller, could it be overheating ?? It did smell hot. Any suggestions ??
The model # is RA949AI6 and serial 49-711576 I was so thrilled to find this machine. I will take pics this weekend and hope to have them out here by end of next week. Have a nice weekend everyone !!
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Post# 30878-7/10/2003-23:27 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: lucky again this week, '49GE-DW found (ge Dishwasher)
MESSAGE: Greg I have the same one that you have its the on off switch its an overload switch and its bad mine does it also.... i have the directions of how to use it
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Post# 30879-7/10/2003-23:32 ||| SALVOBOY (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (Los Angeles apartment refrigerators)
MESSAGE: I agree with those of you who said you'd prefer to bring your own appliances if the resident ones are nasty but if you move a lot, it's a big hassle. Meanwhile, when I rented my apartment in Long Beach a number of years ago, I chose it over several others partly because it DID have a fridge (the only place that did). Of course I might have been swayed because it came with a giant deluxe Kenmore gas stove in mint condition as well. It was circa 1960 and had a giant dial clock, burner-with-a-brain, flourescent backlit panel, the works. What a gem. It was like nobody had ever cooked on it - until me! Downside: it belonged to the apartment! I haven't liked another stove as well since.
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Post# 30880-7/10/2003-23:35 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: combination washer-dryers (Moister Sensor Dry:)
MESSAGE: Steve,
Just curious. But what are the basic dimmensions of the Lady Kenmore Combo? I have always had a soft spot for combos, but if it's too wide 29+", I may not have room.
-Alex
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Post# 30881-7/10/2003-23:51 ||| washerlover (northern California)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire Deader Than a Doornail
MESSAGE: After Greg Nunn was so kind to send me the missing cap & lint filter for my beautiful coffee brown Frigidaire washer, it seems that the timer just went out. (model WC, serial 70EE 5606) After the initial fill, it just plain died. I can't hear anything so I'm assuming it's the timer. (thank God I have my trusty 1984 Whirlpool on standby to take over the job!)
Any ideas? I'm off to Arizona & Utah for a week but will try to check for messages. Also, any idea the approximate year of my Frigidaire washer? I also have the matching dryer.
Thanks!
Todd
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Post# 30882-7/11/2003-01:20 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Deader Than a Doornail (Re: Frigidaire Break-Down:)
MESSAGE: Hey! Todd, did you happen to check all of the Wiring, before operating it originally, from when you first got the "Twin's" home? Maybe you might just have some wires that have come loose. Does it do anything, besides Filling, like Drain or Spin? Maybe it is also possibly something else, like the Water Level Switch or the Water Pressure Switch Tubing, having some kind of blockage?
BTW, my "1-18" is a 1976 {+ -} Model, because it is a Model Number WC-6, with the Window in the Lid.
Good Luck with getting it operating again, after you return from your Trip. Let uns know waht you find out what happened to it. Do you have a Manual for the "1-18" Washer Model's? I have one, if you would like me to look up possible causes and how to Repair the problem.
Best Regards, Steve
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Post# 30883-7/11/2003-04:52 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: 1965 and 1967 Sears Catalog:
MESSAGE: Would anyone happen to have a 1965 and 1967 Sears F/W or S/S Catalog, that shows the Kenmore Washer/Dryer Combination's? I would like very much to be bale to get the Spec's, including the Cabinet Size and the Weight of the Unit's, besides teh feature's. I would really appreciate any and all help, especially if someone has a Scanner to be able to Scan the Page they are listed on, with the Spec's and send them to me directly "via" my E-Mail Address of:
SactoTeddyBear@aol.com
Thank you very much, it would be gratefully appreciated and helping me to know more about the Unit's that I own, without Manual's.
Best Regards, Steve "SactoTeddyBear"
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Post# 30884-7/11/2003-05:43 ||| shawn (Waterford Ct)
SUBJECT: RE: 1965 and 1967 Sears Catalog: (Sears Catalog)
MESSAGE: I have a F/W 1970 Catalog with a combo washer dryer if that is any help?
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Post# 30885-7/11/2003-10:17 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: OWNERS MANUAL FOR YOUR NEW WASHER-DRYER 1965
MESSAGE: I've got the owners manual for that machine. I've also got the parts list, the reference chart, and the home service guide, but I do not see the installation sheet, which would have the dimensions & weight, etc. Seems to me, these are full 30" machines, or at least require the 30" opening because they require at least 1/2 inch free space on either side in order to balance & spin properly..if I locate the installation instructions, I'll let you know...
I have the machine down at my Mom's yet in St. Mary's county, mainly because it's too heavy to get down my basement steps easily, but I just may bring it here to Arlington anyway, in pieces, as I have before been known to do...
This IS another one of those machines I know pretty darned well, having owned & serviced them now for some 20 years...
Yes..the transmission uses an air compresser to engage the spin clutch...and the unit also uses water to balance the spinning cylinder by squirting it quickly into the tub opposite the out of balance condition....it's no wonder these machines are rare & hard to find in working condition today...
B
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/COMBO/INDEX.htm
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Post# 30886-7/11/2003-10:58 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: OWNERS MANUAL FOR YOUR NEW WASHER-DRYER 1965 (Groovy Pictures Bob!)
MESSAGE: Bob,
Those are great pictures.
I love the set up that you had with your LK Combo, and your LK W/D set.
Do you have your manual scanned of your combo?
I would love to see it.
That would make a great manual of the month.
Thanks for the pictures.
You have not changed all that much.
Brent
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Post# 30887-7/11/2003-11:03 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: lucky again this week, '49GE-DW found
MESSAGE: Greg,
You are finding some great stuff! You have some great people looking out for you.
Can't wait to see the pictures.
Brent
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Post# 30888-7/11/2003-11:07 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: The washer Gods approve of Saturday wash in
MESSAGE: Amid the fury of Tropical Storm Claudette and the weak front coming through, the forecast calls for 85deg, partly cloudy, and 20% chance of rain (that's GREAT for new orleans).
It's gonna be perfect for some outdoor washing (220v plug outside for the Skinny Mini)
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Post# 30889-7/11/2003-11:09 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: I found it!
MESSAGE: Well someone in the N-hood decided to throw away another TOL GE spotscrubber machine, the same one I Have in my basement and y'all know I have to have some of the content of this machine!
It was the mini basket and filter!
This weekend if I'm not doing anything, I may put in the tranny in that I have and I'm wait for the the Activator that I brought on e-Bay to complete the system to crank her up tO see if she works!! I will let everyone know A.S.A.P.
Oh what joy it is to ride in a GE mini basket!
Wish me luck the coming days!
Larry
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/lr9711/vwp?.dir=/My+new+collection&.src=ph&.dnm=GE+Mini++basket.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/lr9711/lst%3f%26.dir=/My%2bnew%2bcollection%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 30890-7/11/2003-12:11 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: I found it! (YAY!)
MESSAGE: So cool to find all the parts to a washer. Have fun!
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Post# 30891-7/11/2003-14:58 ||| Manor_Avenue (Fresno, CA)
SUBJECT: 1957 G.E. Filter-Flo
MESSAGE: I'd pay a finder's fee to anyone who can steer me towards a 1957 G.E. Filter-Flo washer. Thanks.
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Post# 30892-7/11/2003-14:59 ||| Manor_Avenue (Fresno, CA)
SUBJECT: 1957 G.E. Filter-Flo
MESSAGE: I'd pay a finder's fee to anyone who can steer me towards a 1957 G.E. Filter-Flo washer. Thanks.
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Post# 30893-7/11/2003-15:02 ||| Manor_Avenue (Fresno, CA)
SUBJECT: WANTED: 1957 G.E. Filter-Flo
MESSAGE: I'd pay a finder's fee to anyone who can steer me towards a 1957 G.E. Filter-Flo washer. Thanks.
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Post# 30894-7/11/2003-16:44 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1965 and 1967 Sears Catalog: (Sears Catalog:)
MESSAGE: Hey! Shawn, I would really appreciate your offer. Would you mind sending it to my E-Mail Address if you have Scanning capability?