Thread Number: 66
Wanna Make My Modern Dishwasher Look Pretty?

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Post# 44919-9/11/2004-23:35 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)

Ok then, go ahead, click on it for automatic beautification...





Ahhh, that's much better.

Post# 44920-9/11/2004-23:46 ||| westytoploader (Texas)

Wow Robert!! Say yay everyone; it looks wonderful!

And the Schilling Black Pepper can...wow! I have a Schilling measuring spoon from the 30's (use it for coffee); it's made of wire but rock-solid! I didn't realize Schilling made spices!

Post# 44921-9/11/2004-23:46 ||| westytoploader (Texas)

Wow Robert!! Say yay everyone; it looks wonderful!

And the Schilling Black Pepper can...wow! I have a Schilling measuring spoon from the 30's (use it for coffee); it's made of wire but rock-solid! I didn't realize Schilling made spices!

Post# 44934-9/12/2004-08:43 ||| christfr (st louis mo)

how cool

what a wonderful diffrence. and only with one click too. i wish it was always that easy. i know youll really enjoy this machine.

Post# 44938-9/12/2004-10:55 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)

Robert it looks just beautiful!! Wish I could just give a click and have the same results!LOL Did you find out if the heater was working or not??

Post# 44948-9/12/2004-17:03 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)

Yay Robert!

It looks great, and right at home Robert!
Hey, get that new appliance launcher out! Watch out neighbors!
Brent

Post# 44955-9/12/2004-20:45 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)

Time for a launch

That right Brent!! This was the last modern appliance to be removed from our kitchen, YAY. Its only natural that instead of just putting it out in the trash we would want to use my Acme Modern Appliance Launcher (complete with the 20 foot rubber band) to launch this yukky plastic dishwasher into the atmosphere.

Here's what it sounded like when it went bye-bye...

Post# 44968-9/13/2004-01:06 ||| tolivac (greenville nc)

alternative to the appliance launcher

While looking around on the web(typed in crushers and compactors)found this website-www. sanitech.net They show the machine crushing various things-the device uses a very large auger to accomplish its destructive mission. In one film clip it shows it crushing a dishwasher.(under the one as washing machine)On the Jay Leno show last year-they had one episode that showed an appliance launcher(trebecheut)based upon a a medevial weapon used before artillery.On the show-it threw a fridge-a KN washer-and then a large box of melons.The unit used a large weight to balance the throwing arm for launching its projectiles. It used a gas engine powered winch to cock the throwing arm. At the shooting range I used to go to-there were various "condemmed" far gone fridges,washers and water heaters.

Post# 44973-9/13/2004-02:42 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)

scrapping

Amazing how these recycling companies can't seem to be able know the difference between dishwashers, dryers, and clothes washers

Post# 44974-9/13/2004-02:44 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)

modern dishwasher

So did this DW end up in the used appliance store like the refrigerator? How old was it?

Post# 44983-9/13/2004-08:58 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)

I have no idea where it is now, remember it's been launched. It probably landed somewhere over in St. Paul. Considering how cheaply its made it probably shattered into a million pieces.

Post# 45016-9/13/2004-18:16 ||| partycycle (San Diego)

Oh, Robert thank you so very much for picture of the “Imperial“. Your kitchen is sooo very beautiful. All of the hard work you have done. Others like me would have given up. Not you. I have learned so much from your perseverance.

Here’s my feelings. Forget about going to a $exclusive$ spa or suckered into some hocus polkas celestial shock-a barber surgeon charlatan in Sedona, AZ.

My central nervous system is beyond shot! Doctors expression are like that of a dog hearing a new sound. I now know what my cure is. 48 hours in your basement and kitchen. All I need is a blanket. I’m certain I’ll snap out of it.

Robert please give it some thought? You have struck pay dirt. I am not pee shy or modest. I know there are other members who will come forth and admit their ills. Agreeing with me that Robert’s kitchen and basement are the long sought after cure.

Post# 45020-9/13/2004-18:48 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)

Beautiful addition to your kitchen! Thank goodness Neal doesn't mind changing appliances the way most people change shoes ;-)

Post# 45022-9/13/2004-18:55 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)

Thank goodness Neal doesn't mind changing appliances the way most people change shoes ;-)

He knows who he married and he has learned by now its easier just to say "yes dear", "if it makes you happy dear" when it comes to the appliances. :) I'm a lucky boy.

Post# 45039-9/13/2004-21:34 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)

OK, Have I've missed something here. Where is this picture of the kitchen with the Imperial in it?

And yes party cycle, I agree. I asked if I could spend the night in the basement so I could be with all those machines (at the 2001 convention), but no. Yes, it was very soothing when I was down there by myself, the aura, and the scents in the air.

Post# 45065-9/14/2004-08:34 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)

Thanks everyone for your kind words. Bob, go back to the first post and click on the picture with your mouse.

Post# 45112-9/14/2004-19:11 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)

Thank you Robert. I tried taht right after this was posted and I still got teh Kenmore. I didn't try again. Now I will. Woo Hoo!!!

Post# 45180-9/15/2004-21:57 ||| jmirawm (Arkansas)

Dial at the bottom

I was wondering what the dial was at the bottom of the machine in the mechanical cover area. Is that a timer ?

Post# 45191-9/16/2004-00:37 ||| tolivac (greenville nc)

What is that ominous black dishwasher-A vintage KA is waiting for me as soon as its owners finish remodeling their kitchen.another Applianceville member plugged me into the machine.They are going to replace the KA machine with a ....Roper.I am very grateful to Touchmatic.

Post# 45199-9/16/2004-09:03 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)

Timer

Hi Jim, the dial at the bottom is Timer dial.

Rex, the old modern dishwasher that I got rid of was a Kenmore.

Post# 45213-9/16/2004-19:40 ||| tolivac (greenville nc)

Did you find the Kenmore another home? When my KA comes I may just put my new WP KA machine in a corner.

Post# 45231-9/17/2004-05:13 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)

new home for KM

Hopefully it got rescued like the modern refrigerator and went on to another life. It may be "modern" but I stil hate to see things that are still useful go to waste. Too many people out there who can't afford things and would love to have something like a dishwasher of any vintage.

Post# 45399-9/19/2004-20:17 ||| tolivac (greenville nc)

Availability of vintage and used dishwashers

In my area it is difficult to find used dishwashers-You have to use word of mouth,try the Habitat For Humanity Store here(sort of like GoodWill)or read the want ad magazine.None of the swap shops or used appliance stores have them.I was lucky to get the tip on the machine I am waiting for.I was wondering why 2nd hand stores don't carry used dishwashers.Try the appliance store as well-they don't have 'em either. But did have a few used KN washers and dryers-assume they were trade ins toward new ones.Priced at $100 ea. cash-and- carry.

Post# 45405-9/19/2004-20:50 ||| fixerman (Minneapolis)

There's a simple reason no used stores carry them. No demand and the fact that you have been able to buy a dishwasher for little or nothing for the last 20 or so years. We haven't sold them for many years. I do occasionally get a customer ask me for one but they want to pay 15.00 or some small amount that does'nt make it worth while to screw with them. Straight to the scrapyard they go. People see a Sears ad for a dishwasher for 150 or something and figure a used one ought to be almost free. The other appliances are headed the same direction too. I put a price of 125.00 on a washer and run an ad. People will ask me "is it a new one". How does one stay in business with peoples perception of new appliance prices.

Post# 45424-9/19/2004-23:23 ||| tolivac (greenville nc)

Availability of vintage and used dishwashers

Yes-I suppose with the low prices of "builders model" dishwashers people don't want a used one.The Habitat For Humanity store here carries them as is.They do not work on them.You take your chance.They are priced at $15-20 each. The store also had several ranges,wall ovens,cooktops,fridges and washewrs and dryers. If there is a HFH store in your area-may want to scope it out.The HFH store also had some unusual items-like surplus building materials and cans of paint that look liked they came out of peoples garages.As for the dishwashers-suppose for the most part people replace them after they have died.The dead machine may not be worth reviving.Its tub could be cracked or corroded out.I saw one "curbed" dishwasher-a GE that had a badly cracked tank.Left it for its final fate in the krusher to the dump.

Post# 45428-9/20/2004-01:41 ||| fixerman (Minneapolis)

(As for the dishwashers-suppose for the most part people replace them after they have died.The dead machine may not be worth reviving.)

On the contrary being a reccyler I get many people tell me their machine works fine but they are remodeling and replacing all their appliances with new ones. I probably have 30 to 40 dishwashers in my warehouse that people have told me are in working condition,. If there was a market for them I would sell them. Maybe the HFH Idea of selling them as is wouldn't be a bad Idea. Problem is how to advertise them. Newspaper ads are expensive and I could easily spend more on advertising than I get for the machines.

Post# 45474-9/20/2004-19:20 ||| tolivac (greenville nc)

Recycler trying to sell his dishwashers

Does your area have one of those "want ad" magazines?The two used appliance stores I use here advertise in the magazine.They say its cheaper than using the newspaper.You could try advertising in the want ad magazine.

Post# 45504-9/21/2004-03:56 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)

used dishwashers

That's what I think happened with my '88 WP DW that was "curbed", I suspect it was a "remodeling" victim. It works just great, called WP and they sent me the Use & Care directions (albeit, photocopied). It did have some screws and stuff in teh pump that made a lot of noise, and taht may ahve scared the people into a new machine, but I took it apart and removed them and now it's quiet as can be.

Post# 45610-9/22/2004-18:57 ||| tolivac (greenville nc)

Arrival of KA dishwasher

Got a call today-my vintage KA dishwasher is to arrive this Sat.The owners installed their new machine.Anxiously awaiting.Will have to make room in my kitchen for it-will need some repairs before I can use it.It will have a yellow front.

Post# 45616-9/22/2004-21:37 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)

Another Vintage KitchenAid

Hey Rex that's wonderful! What model Vintage Kitchen Dishwasher are you getting?

Post# 45621-9/22/2004-23:27 ||| tolivac (greenville nc)

Vintage KA dishwasher

I beleive it is a KD-18.

Post# 45627-9/23/2004-04:03 ||| i70sn80sguy (wisconsin, madison)

used DWs

Yes I agree there really isn't much to a dishwasher- motor, timer, tub, and racks. I found a KA early 90s dishwasher at the curb. Nice but it had leaked from the beginning from where the racks attach on the side walls and rusted the entire side. and when they leak there is no guarantee you'll fix them. You can buy them from se-ars and Bilders rectangle for like $125 new.
Try Ebbay , I know they have dishwashers.

Post# 45666-9/23/2004-21:28 ||| touchmatic5 (Kinston N.C.)

tolivacs Vintage Kichenaid! KDS-18

Rex,your KDS-18 is happily awaiting its new owner.After pulling this machine today,it is in almost like new condition!
Their is no rust or corrosion anywhere to be found under the bottom,even the heater box and fan has no rust! Most KA over the years I have worked on have atleashad a rusty heater/fan box. This was a machine that was used very little,customer admited this morning she broke the wash arm,other than replacing that and the wash arm support shes good to go!They also had the small items basket with it also. Got my 1960 double Flair range in. Cant stop cooking oven cornbread and cakes. The mirrored oven walls bake so evenly with easy clean up! It puts a new convection range to shame.

Post# 45670-9/23/2004-21:52 ||| tolivac (greenville nc)

Tolivac KA dishwasher:

Touchmatic-Is it still a go for Sat 1:00P del?.Can I order another washarm and support from you?Glad the Flair range works well for you---Maybe I should figure out a way to accomidate one.Would go well with the KA washer.The cornbread and cakes you bake in the Flair oven sound so good!!Almost can smell them cooking right now!-You are making me hungry!Still have 4 hours to go in my shift as I type this.I am going to get things ready for Sat.

Post# 45671-9/23/2004-21:57 ||| tolivac (greenville nc)

Condition of KA machine

When you mentioned in your entry that the heater and blower box weren't corroded-thats unusual for our climate.Glad to hear its in great shape.Bet after I can replace the washarm-it should go for another 20-30years.Is it safe to use "modern" dishwasher detergents in it?

Post# 45686-9/24/2004-02:54 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)

modern dishwasher detergents

newer detergents are actually probably safer, since the chlorine in older detergents tends to be somewhat corrosive.

Post# 45827-9/26/2004-19:06 ||| tolivac (greenville nc)

KA dishwasher has arrived

Touchmatic delivored the machine Sat aft.Macine is in EXCELLENT shape.It has yellow front panels. Matches my counters and walloven.Its a KDS-18 Superbia.It has the same features as my newer WP KA superbia. The machine has 3 washarms-the one on the ceiling of the washtub,the 2nd under the top rack-and the one in the bottom of the tub. The bottom needs to be repalced-Had Touchmatic order the parts.Will put the machine in service when the parts come in.He also had a spare timer that would fit it.Put it with my spares for my other machines.The KDS-18 is SO MUCH better made than the WP-KA version.Takes 2 people just to lift it!The WP version is much lighter.-thats a dishwasher!-Hobart built them well!