The following are archived forum messages from the original forum of automaticwasher.org referred to as Applianceville from May, 2001 to Sept 2004...
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Post# 1-5/20/2001-16:44 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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Welcome to Applianceville
MESSAGE: With this post I officially kick off the test phase of Applianceville.
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Post# 2-5/20/2001-17:20 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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RE: Welcome to Applianceville (What's a Drift?)
MESSAGE: When you select Reply to Post button, there is this optional input box called Subject Drift. This is a simple way of adding a small amount of text to the subject without actually changing the subject. It can be used when we're going off the subject slightly, so members can quickly locate posts they are interested in.
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Post# 3-5/20/2001-17:22 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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How to post links
MESSAGE: I've include another option input box at the bottom of the Post Message and Reply to Message screens. Its called URL Link to Share. If you would like to include a link, copy and paste the address in this special input box and not only will your link be added, but the work [LINK] will be added to the Pink Table of Contents Page so members will quickly be able to find posts with links elsewhere.
LINK: http://www.maytag.com
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Post# 4-5/20/2001-19:28 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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Hello Applianceville
MESSAGE: Please Log-In and Sign up. Then post and reply to as many message as you can so we can see if this thing really works!
Thanks for you help everyone.
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Post# 5-5/20/2001-19:57 ||| Eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
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new website
MESSAGE: I love it Robert! Hi all, hope to see you all here in Applianceville. Lots of love from
Speed Queen Eddy
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Post# 6-5/20/2001-20:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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RE: new website
MESSAGE: Hi Eddy, welcome to Applianceville 2. Thanks for signing up and helping with the first round of testing.
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Post# 7-5/20/2001-20:33 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
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New web site
MESSAGE: I be here too y'all
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Post# 8-5/20/2001-20:33 ||| Peteski50 (New York)
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RE: Welcome to Applianceville (Great Web Site )
MESSAGE: Robert this is real great
Thank You
Peter
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Post# 9-5/20/2001-20:36 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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RE: New web site
MESSAGE: Hi Appnut, welcome, thanks for helping test. Let me know if anything funny happens. This is just the beginning, we can grow and shape this web site as a collective group in which ever way we want.
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Post# 10-5/20/2001-20:36 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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RE: Welcome to Applianceville (thanks)
MESSAGE: Thanks Peter, I'm glad you're here!
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Post# 11-5/20/2001-20:40 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
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A suggestion
MESSAGE: Robert, I may be daft, but I don't neccessarily like having to click on each post. Any thought on having a next and/or previous post buttons?
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Post# 12-5/20/2001-20:44 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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RE: A suggestion
MESSAGE: I can certainly figure out a way to add that feature Appnut. I will put it on the to do list. Any suggestions like that is much appreciated.
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Post# 13-5/20/2001-20:59 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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I've Just added the 1960's Speed Queen Logo
MESSAGE: The 1960's Speed Queen Logo is now available for background wallpaper. To change your wallpaper, make sure your logged-in and select Edit My Profile from the Applianceville menu.
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Post# 14-5/20/2001-21:15 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
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RE: I've Just added the 1960's Speed Queen Logo
MESSAGE: I love the new website.ITS BEAUTIFUL!
jetcone
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Post# 15-5/20/2001-21:19 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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RE: I've Just added the 1960's Speed Queen Logo (Hi Jon)
MESSAGE: Welcome to the new web site. Thanks for all your help during the initial tests.
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Post# 16-5/20/2001-21:20 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
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RE: I've Just added the 1960's Speed Queen Logo (Hi Jon)
MESSAGE: It has been sooo much fun testing the new site. Uni has done an outstanding job here.!!
jet
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Post# 17-5/20/2001-21:22 ||| Eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
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RE: I've Just added the 1960's Speed Queen Logo (thanks)
MESSAGE: Thank you Robert for including my FAVORITE wallpaper!
Eddy
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Post# 18-5/20/2001-21:23 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
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RE: I've Just added the 1960's Speed Queen Logo (thanks)
MESSAGE: Eddy don't you just love this!
Jet
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Post# 19-5/20/2001-21:26 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
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Anybody ever see this 20# Westy F?L?
MESSAGE: Has anyone ever seen this machine? What kind of tub does it have?
jon
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Post# 20-5/20/2001-21:27 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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RE: Anybody ever see this 20# Westy F?L? (where is this???)
MESSAGE: You mean the washer in the picture of the day Jon?
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Post# 21-5/20/2001-21:28 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
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RE: Anybody ever see this 20# Westy F?L? (where is this???)
MESSAGE: Yes Robert the picture of the day today has a odd looking Westinghouse F/L that I have never ever seen before!
jon
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Post# 22-5/20/2001-21:29 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
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RE: Anybody ever see this 20# Westy F?L? (where is this???)
MESSAGE: When you press POST does it autoamtically refresh your screen?
jon
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Post# 23-5/20/2001-21:29 ||| Kc4ab (limaburg ky)
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I LIKE IT
MESSAGE: Nice i realy like it. I hope scott dont find me.
jeff
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Post# 24-5/20/2001-21:30 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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RE: I LIKE IT
MESSAGE: Welcome to the new site Kc4ab, glad you found us!
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Post# 25-5/20/2001-21:30 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
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RE: I LIKE IT
MESSAGE: Kc4ab welcome to the new version of WASH_IN!
jetcone
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Post# 26-5/20/2001-21:43 ||| Eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
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RE: I've Just added the 1960's Speed Queen Logo (hi Jon)
MESSAGE: Yes, I LOVE this new website. Isn't it great? Are you planning any trips out to B.C. in the near future?
Eddy
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Post# 27-5/20/2001-21:47 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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More Wallpaper Added
MESSAGE: I've just added the RCA Whirlpool logo from 1960!
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Post# 28-5/20/2001-21:49 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
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RE: I've Just added the 1960's Speed Queen Logo (B.C)
MESSAGE: Hi Eddy! MY favorite cousins from Van. are coming out to Boston to visit me right after the convention so it won;t be this year but I am planning a trip in the next couple of years.
I would like to play with your Beatty!
Jon
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Post# 29-5/20/2001-21:49 ||| Kc4ab (limaburg ky)
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RE: More Wallpaper Added
MESSAGE: are you going to have your pin on for the FRIG. pride day parade ??
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Post# 30-5/20/2001-21:54 ||| Kc4ab (limaburg ky)
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RE: I LIKE IT
MESSAGE: Thanks i like it
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Post# 31-5/20/2001-21:55 ||| Eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
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RE: I've Just added the 1960's Speed Queen Logo (B.C)
MESSAGE: Maybe I'll be out your way then first! Whenever you're out this way, be SURE to let me know so we can hook up. You can play all you want with my Beatty's ;-) automatic and manual.
Eddy
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Post# 32-5/20/2001-21:58 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
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RE: I've Just added the 1960's Speed Queen Logo (B.C)
MESSAGE: Eddy c'mon down anytime to Boston.
jon
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Post# 33-5/20/2001-21:58 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
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RE: I've Just added the 1960's Speed Queen Logo (B.C)
MESSAGE: Are we refreshing?
jon
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Post# 34-5/20/2001-22:00 ||| Kc4ab (limaburg ky)
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RE: I've Just added the 1960's Speed Queen Logo (B.C)
MESSAGE: Yes this is a refhing change
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Post# 35-5/20/2001-22:24 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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RE: More Wallpaper Added (Kenmore Logo)
MESSAGE: Now I just added the famous 1957 Kenmore logo to the wallpaper choices. This logo was used from '57 well into the 1960's.
Again to change your wallpaper after you have initially signed-up simply make sure you're logged in and select Edit My Profile.
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Post# 36-5/20/2001-22:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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Now for the lovers of the Laundromat
MESSAGE: We have the 1950's Westinghouse Logo loaded!
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Post# 37-5/20/2001-24:28 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
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RE: Now for the lovers of the Laundromat
MESSAGE: I love the wallpaper - very cool. When are you going to put up the Friederich, Fedders, Airtemp, Carrier, Philco logos for my room air conditioner collection?? Hee hee!
Thanks for all the hard work - this site is certainly a credit to your hard work - congratulations on getting it up and running so well!
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Post# 38-5/20/2001-24:29 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
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RE: Now for the lovers of the Laundromat
MESSAGE: Where's the wallpaper? I can't see it on my screen....
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Post# 39-5/20/2001-24:30 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
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RE: Now for the lovers of the Laundromat
MESSAGE: Well, the Frigidaire logo works
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Post# 40-5/20/2001-24:30 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
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RE: Now for the lovers of the Laundromat
MESSAGE: Westinghouse logo isn't coming up....
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Post# 41-5/21/2001-06:25 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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RE: Now for the lovers of the Laundromat (strange?)
MESSAGE: I see the westinghouse logo just fine, do you guys?
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Post# 42-5/21/2001-06:30 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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RE: Now for the lovers of the Laundromat (opps)
MESSAGE: there I'm set to westinghouse, it should show the westinghouse logo now?
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Post# 43-5/21/2001-06:31 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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RE: Now for the lovers of the Laundromat (Westinghouse seems to work fine)
MESSAGE: Do you guys see the westinghouse logo?
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Post# 44-5/21/2001-06:37 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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I won the Apex Manual on Ebay!
MESSAGE: It turned out to be $37.00 bucks, but its worth it. I will scan it and place some of the best pictures in the owners manual library! Here's a picture of the cover...
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1430518674
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Post# 45-5/21/2001-07:29 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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Miele question for Louis?
MESSAGE: Hey Louis, was the vintage Miele logo the same as the modern logo, or have they made changes over time? Let me know so I can scan both logos. Thanks.
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Post# 46-5/21/2001-07:30 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
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RE: Now for the lovers of the Laundromat (Westinghouse seems to work fine)
MESSAGE: No logo shows up here - could be Netscape?
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Post# 47-5/21/2001-07:32 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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RE: Now for the lovers of the Laundromat (other logos?)
MESSAGE: Do the Kenmore, Whirlpool and other logos show up from earlier posts?
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Post# 48-5/21/2001-07:32 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
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RE: I won the Apex Manual on Ebay! (Repair Manual on Ebay now!)
MESSAGE: Did you see it? I put a bid in - feel free to take over if it goes above my bid.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1432106856&r=0&t=0&showTutorial=0&ed=991090022&indexURL=0&rd=1
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Post# 49-5/21/2001-07:44 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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RE: Now for the lovers of the Laundromat (thanks )
MESSAGE: It seems like the logos work fine in Internet Explorer but Netscape doesn't want to show the RCA Whirlpool and Westinghouse logos, all the others seem to show up fine in Netscape though. I'll check out those logos files tonight, it could have been a blip in the transfering to the server.
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Post# 50-5/21/2001-07:54 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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RE: Now for the lovers of the Laundromat (hey it works!)
MESSAGE: when I hit the PREV button in the pink list above, Netscape clears and when I go back to the posts the Westinghouse and Whirlpool logos should up (the Whirlpool logo is view in post #27).
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Post# 51-5/21/2001-08:36 ||| Peteski50 (New York)
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wallpaper
MESSAGE: I want to see if it works
I may change it
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Post# 52-5/21/2001-08:41 ||| Peteski50 (New York)
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RE: wallpaper (try this one)
MESSAGE: I want to see different ones
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Post# 53-5/21/2001-08:49 ||| Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
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I got in!
MESSAGE: Robert it works here. Thanks. Tom
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Post# 54-5/21/2001-09:14 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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RE: I got in! (Hi)
MESSAGE: Hi Tom, welcome to Applianceville 2. Did you check out the Consumer Reports button. Soon I want to have every washer, dryer and dishwasher report loaded and ready to be read at any time!
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Post# 55-5/21/2001-09:15 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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RE: wallpaper (try this one)
MESSAGE: looks like the wallpaper works just fine for you Peteski, thanks! Did you see the Hotpoint and Whirlpool Wallpaper on your last two posts?
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Post# 56-5/21/2001-09:53 ||| Peteski50 (New York)
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RE: wallpaper (wallpaper )
MESSAGE: I saw Hotpoint but not Whirlpool
I may go with Frigidaire cause it's my fav
Thanks Peter
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Post# 57-5/21/2001-10:36 ||| Foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
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RE: Welcome to Applianceville
MESSAGE: Hi all (and especially Robert ofcourse). I'm very thrilled about this new website. I hope to meet you all often here. Louis
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Post# 58-5/21/2001-10:47 ||| Foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
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RE: Miele question for Louis?
MESSAGE: No Robert, the Miele logo has always been the same one. And I bet it will stay the same for many years to come. Louis
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Post# 59-5/21/2001-10:59 ||| Foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
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RE: A suggestion (and another one)
MESSAGE: I would like a forward and previous button too, very convenient. I have another one, I like it that my name was not beginning with a Capital, actually it's forAloysius but that looks so silly. The names in the message part all begin automaticcaly with a capital, do you all want it that way? Perhaps it could be made possible to control that through the prodile? Or am I fussing about something small? Louis
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Post# 60-5/21/2001-11:06 ||| Foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
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Wonderful!!!!!!!!
MESSAGE: I have visited the libaries that are already up. I was really impressed. You did a wonderful job Robert, the styling is wonderful and works really well. And everything is so very simple to use. Louis
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Post# 61-5/21/2001-11:32 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
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Checking Site on AOL
MESSAGE: Seems to work fine - was able to get all the features. Have a good day all!
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Post# 62-5/21/2001-11:45 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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RE: A suggestion (Vote for Capital Case)
MESSAGE: Thanks Louis, I can certainly have the system display our names in all lowercase, its probably not worth the extra server processing time to analyze each persons upper or lower case request, so lets just decide on what we want, ALL UPPDERCASE, all lowercase or First Letter Upper Case.
Vote for what you would like to see:
-ALL UPPDERCASE
-all lowercase
-First Letter Upper Case.
I vote First Letter Upper Case, but it really doesn't matter to me.
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Post# 63-5/21/2001-11:49 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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RE: Wonderful!!!!!!!!
MESSAGE: Thanks Louis, this will be so nice to have all of our scans and pictures organized in one easy place to find them. Yahoo Photos was good for a start, but we need a real Library! Most of us have lots to contribue so will figure out some standards such as 100dpi and the such for the scans and we will fill the libraries with goodies!
This is really the start of a new, more powerful information era for us Appliancevillians or Appliancevillers or what ever we call ourselves.
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Post# 64-5/21/2001-11:50 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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RE: Checking Site on AOL (YAY)
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg, does the wallpaper show up on AOL? Also was the standard AOL browser Netscape? Does anyone else use AOL out there in Applianceville?
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Post# 65-5/21/2001-11:54 ||| Foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
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RE: A suggestion (Vote for Capital Case)
MESSAGE: all lowercase, but you guessed that already.
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Post# 66-5/21/2001-11:54 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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RE: Miele question for Louis?
MESSAGE: Thanks for the info on the Miele logo Louis, I will scan that tonight and add it to the list of wallpapers, let me know if there are other non-American Logos that should go up. I'll do the Inglis logo too for our Canadian members. Hopefully they will show up without much trouble.
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Post# 67-5/21/2001-11:58 ||| Foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
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RE: Wonderful!!!!!!!! (Appliancevillers)
MESSAGE: I'm looking forward to this new information era. All these things make it very easy for me to get even more acquainted with the American appliances.
BTW, I like Appliancevillers (versus Appliancekillers!!)
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Post# 68-5/21/2001-12:11 ||| Rapidry1000 (San Francisco)
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testing the new site
MESSAGE: Hi Robert
I just set up my profile and twice it did not pick up my name and birthdate and the questions asked beyond the number of items held by me.
Help
Your work is absolutely unbelievable. Thank you for devoting so much time and effort.
Many thanks
Rapidry1000
James
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Post# 69-5/21/2001-12:15 ||| Peterh770 (Atlanta, GA)
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RE: A suggestion (Vote for Capital Case)
MESSAGE: Doesn't matter to me, as I probably cannot do PeterH770!
Is this a great site or WHAT!!!
-ph
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Post# 70-5/21/2001-12:20 ||| Peterh770 (Atlanta, GA)
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Search
MESSAGE: It appears that the search function in the Archive is inop...?
-ph
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Post# 71-5/21/2001-12:22 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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RE: testing the new site (Looks OK to me??)
MESSAGE: Hi James, when I select the Profiles button and select your name (Rapidry1000) it appears that all the information you typed is in there correctly, including birthdate. Can you take a look, go into the profiles button and click on your name, then hit the Reload or Refresh button on you browser, see if that makes any difference. Keep us posted, thanks so much for your help in testing.
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Post# 72-5/21/2001-12:25 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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RE: Search (works for me)
MESSAGE: Hi Peter, go into the Archive Button, select posts 0-2000, wait a second for it to load. Next RIGHT CLICK on the white page on the right side of the screen to select the white text page (not the yellow index). Hold down the Control Key and press F. Type in Speed Queen and see if it takes you to Eddy's message! It just worked fine for me in both IE and Netscape, but let me know. Are you using Internet Explorer or Netscape or another kind of browser?
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Post# 73-5/21/2001-12:32 ||| Foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
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RE: Search (works for me)
MESSAGE: Works for me too. It's not only very handy for finding messages, but also for catching up after a holiday or so. Well done, Robert!
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Post# 74-5/21/2001-12:33 ||| Rapidry1000 (San Francisco)
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RE: testing the new site (Thanks Robert)
MESSAGE:
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Post# 75-5/21/2001-12:34 ||| Peterh770 (Atlanta, GA)
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What goes where?
MESSAGE: Has any discussion started about which club website is for what? Are we continuing Yahoo and here simultaneously?
Will there be a "courtesy rules" page for appropriate conduct here?
-ph
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Post# 76-5/21/2001-12:35 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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RE: What goes where? (oops a BUG)
MESSAGE: Peter and everyone else don't end your post with a dash and your initials. I see this is a bug that I will need to fix.
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Post# 77-5/21/2001-12:36 ||| Peterh770 (Atlanta, GA)
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RE: Search (duh me)
MESSAGE: Yes it works. I just didn't select the first group of archive posts, thinking since that group is highlighted, it was selected already. It was a Monday moment...
-ph
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Post# 78-5/21/2001-12:37 ||| Peterh770 (Atlanta, GA)
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RE: Search (dashes)
MESSAGE: Looks like this last post didn't bug out, unless Robert The Web Wizzard fixed it already!
dash ph
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Post# 79-5/21/2001-12:38 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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RE: What goes where? (were in test mode)
MESSAGE: Before we make any decisions about where to post, lets give it a few days of testing to find any bugs and how important they are to be fixed before "Going Live". As for Yahoo Classic Appliances I know there was some resistance to stop using Yahoo, so I no reason why we cant use both. We do have more control and powerful features here, but I'm not positive that they all work properly yet. This is my first attempt at programming in HTML, Perl and Javascript.
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Post# 80-5/21/2001-12:39 ||| Foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
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RE: Search (duh me)
MESSAGE: What wondered me more is why you already wanted to search the archives, I hope your memory isn't that bad. Age and Nutrasweet?
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Post# 81-5/21/2001-12:42 ||| Peterh770 (Atlanta, GA)
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RE: Search (duh me)
MESSAGE: More like a senior moment or too much peroxide!
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Post# 82-5/21/2001-12:42 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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RE: Search (uses for Archives)
MESSAGE: When I was writing the code for the archive I realized that this will be a powerful feature after you been away for a few days. We can read all the messages in the archive and then write down the message numbers you want reply to, then go out and make your replies. What used to take almost an hour, can now be done in less than 10 minutes!
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Post# 83-5/21/2001-12:44 ||| Foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
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RE: What goes where? (rules)
MESSAGE: I would suggest that at least there is a link to a few courtesy rules overhere. One of them might be that this is a gay friendly site.
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Post# 84-5/21/2001-12:46 ||| Foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
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RE: Search (duh me)
MESSAGE: The fun already starts even before the site is officially opened. That is what I like about our club.
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Post# 85-5/21/2001-12:49 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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Its Perl Baily...
MESSAGE: Did everyone see Perl in today's picture of the day? This picture was taken from a magazine in a dentist's office waiting room, that I ripped out when I was probably 15 or 16 years old, back in '78 or '79! I just loved the site of the Westinghouse Front Loader running as I had never seen one of those machines in action up to that point.
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Post# 86-5/21/2001-12:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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RE: What goes where? (rules schmules)
MESSAGE: I don't think we need rules, unless you guys think its necessary? We're a pretty behaived group as it is, with minor exceptions.
This sure seems faster than Yahoo, doesn't it?
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Post# 87-5/21/2001-14:16 ||| Peterh770 (Atlanta, GA)
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RE: Its Perl Baily...
MESSAGE: I loved those ads, always so full of camp as only Pearl could do. This washer was my machine of choice for a very long time. Only the Firestone tire dealer sold Westies, and I never could get good looks at them, as I would be the only pre-teen appliance shopper in the store!
I forwarded the pic link to some friends of mine here at work, and of course they all want to know if I dress like that when I wash...
-ph
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Post# 88-5/21/2001-14:19 ||| Peterh770 (Atlanta, GA)
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RE: What goes where? (made to be broken)
MESSAGE: This site FLIES compared to Yahoo.
I just thought that a code of conduct might be helpful. I guess our mission statement on the main page pretty much sums it up...
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Post# 89-5/21/2001-14:33 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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RE: What goes where? (whatever you guys want)
MESSAGE: If you guys feel we do need a code of conduct, please write it up and if we all agree I'll post it. I just want everyone to remember that this is our site, not mine. I really want to make this a community for us, very special--appliance loving people. We deserve a special place, we have so much to share. And I just know that once we advertise on the search engines, we're going to find others like us and help them come out of the washer closet too!
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Post# 90-5/21/2001-14:34 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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Look what I just found
MESSAGE: Look what I just found on my hard drive, dated September 9, 2000. This time I can fit it all in one message! Remember this:
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Hi everyone, I was recently asked what is the difference between the Unimatic and the other Frigidaire washers and I wanted to give an explanation for those who might not know.
The Unimatic transmission was designed and built by a Frigidaire engineer named Kenneth O'Sissen back in the late 1930's. Kenneth, who was hired by Frigidaire after working at Bendix where he invented the incrementing timer for their bolt-down washer and Kenneth’s basic timer design is still used today in some washers and dishwashers. His Unimatic, (Uni. meaning one and Matic short for automatic) consisted of a pulsator crankshaft & spin cage/brake assembly type transmission located on the top, a motor mounted in the middle and a water pump mounted underneath the motor. It was one complete direct drive unit without any clutches, drive belts or pulleys. The motor ran at 1140rpm, the gearing ratio in the pulsator part of the mechanism made the agitator go up and down in a 1 7/8” stroke at 330 pulses per minute. Since there was no gearing in the spin section of the mechanism, the tub spun at the same rate as the motor -- 1140rpm, which made for incredibly dry clothes. Because of the war effort it wasn’t until 1947 that Frigidaire introduced this mechanism in its very first washer, model WJ-60. Unimatic washers for domestic use were continued to be produced through 1958.
In 1955 Frigidaire engineers experimented with a belt-drive mechanism and introduced the Pulsa-Matic mechanism on its lower end washer model WV-35. The Pulsa-Matic agitated up and down at a very rapid 630ppm and also spun the tub at 630rpm, which was the slowest spinning full-size washer GM Frigidaire ever produced. Because of the rapid agitation with the Pulsa-Matic, Frigidaire shortened the length of the stroke of the agitation from 1 7/8" to 3/4". This change in agitation stroke and pulse rate did reduce the rate of turnover of the clothes which made for less tangling, but did not clean anywhere near as well as the Unimatic’s agitation. For this reason the Pulsa-Matic only lasted 4 years as they continued to market it in '56, '57 and '58. These models (WV-35, WS-56, WD-56, WS-57, WD-57, WS-58, WD-58 and WDP-58) are now some of the rarest of the Frigidaire washers and I only know of one collector that has one of these Pulsa-Matic washers.
The only major design of the Unimatic washers outside of the normal yearly changes in the cabinet and control panels was the introduction of the 3-Ring Agitator in 1956, with a neoprene rubber, gray colored cap, lint-chaser ring and circulator ring. The same colors were used in ’57 and a bleach cup was added. In ’58 Frigidaire’s advertising firm suggested that they color the rings (sort of like they did in the ’57 magazine ad’s), so the cap became turquoise, the lint chaser ring became yellow and the circulator became a coral color.
In 1959 Frigidaire introduced their first coin-operated washer (model WCOZ). The WCOZ used the Unimatic tranny and coin-op Unimatics were produced until 1964. Starting in 1965 Frigidaire introduced other coin-op machines with various mechanisms and continued to make them until the mid 70’s. About 1962 Frigidaire introduce their top-loading Dry-Cleaner, it too used the Unimatic mechanism and I'm not sure how long it was produced for (anyone out there know????).
For the new 1959 domestic washer line Frigidaire discontinued the Unimatic (for home use) and completely discontinued the Pulsa-Matic. They now introduced the Multi-Matic which was nothing more than a very advanced version of the Pulsa-Matic. It consisted of two drive belts (one for agitate and one for spin), a new two speed motor and a special clutch to shift drive power between the two belts. This arrangement produced Frigidaire's first multi-speed washer, allowing for 330ppm for normal wash speed or a 220ppm delicate speed as well as a 850rpm high spin speed and a 330rpm delicate spin speed. Because of the slower 330ppm Frigidaire was now able to return the agitator stroke back to a full 1.25" just like the old Unimatic. For the 1963 line Frigidaire introduced it's new 12lb capacity tub, but unfortunately for both the 1963 and 1964 line Frigidaire cheapened the clutch design of the Multi-Matic which dropped the high spin speed from 850 all the way down to 710.
In 1965 (actually it was the end of the year 1964) Frigidaire introduced the Roller-Matic mechanism. This was now a belt-less mechanism again with rollers of different sizes to drive the transmission. They also brought back the high speed spin of 1010rpm (not quite as fast as the 1140 of the Unimatic, but still very impressive). The Imperial and Custom Imperial washers had this 1010 “Rapidry spin” as well as a 650 mid level spin and a 330 low speed spin. Agitation speeds remained at 330 normal or 220 delicate speeds. In '65 they also introduced the "Deep Action Agitator" which was also referred to as "Jet-Action". They had been experimenting with this 3-cone agitator since 1962 when they stated placing it in their coin-op machines, but for some reason waited until '65 to introduce it into the domestic line.
The 1970 line brought some very big changes. They introduced the new 1-18 washer with big 18lb perforated tub and the Jet-Cone agitator. The normal agitation speed was brought up from 330ppm to 360ppm and the spin speed was lowered from 1010 to about 660. They day's of the high speed spin were now over, even though its 660 was still the fastest spin available through the 1970's.
Of course in 1980 GM sold off Frigidaire it will never be the same :( . For a few years they kept the same general look of the cabinet and control panel of the 1-18 but inside was a 1970's design Westinghouse Top-Loading washer, one of the worst top-loader washer designs ever. It was a very dark-day in applianceville. The first time I saw this new Frigidaire after catching my breath, I nearly cried. I don’t need to describe to anyone out there in applianceville what WCI is producing now as a top-loader.
If anyone has any additions to add this piece of history, that would be really great!
*****
Post# 91-5/21/2001-14:37 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Look what I just found (hmmmm)
MESSAGE: this does seem a bit buggy, I wonder if it has something to do with the quote character. I'll have to do a bit of research yet, we'll get these bugs out.
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Post# 92-5/21/2001-17:00 ||| Dadoes (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
First Post
MESSAGE: Quite a spiffy piece of work, Uni! It was acting a little flaky for a short while, especially in Netscape, but things seem to have cleared up now.
I do have a few comments and suggestions . . .
1. On the discussion area, where you have the pink section showing the message topics, and the white section for the text of the messages, it would be helpful to have a larger, more visible frame line between them to facilitate resizing the two frame sections.
2. As Louis suggested, a "next" and "back" link when perusing posts would be helpful, but the Archive section also works well for that.
3. Can you add Fisher & Paykel wallpaper? I know that's not exactly vintage, but . . .
4. I LOVE the picture-of-the-day feature!
5. Will club members have their own photo album areas for posting pictures?
6. What is the possibility for having a "preview post" function, for purposes of proofreading and editing before final submission?
7. How much server space is available for our domain?
8. You might consider using hyphens or underscores in the .htm filenames, instead of spaces. Current versions of IE and Netscape generally replace the spaces with "%20", but, as I've heard, some browsers have trouble with spaces in filenames. It's also a little disconcerting to see the Address or Location field in the browser report the page as http://www.classicappliances.com/NEW%20DISCUSS/DISPLAY%20PAGES/POST%20A%20NEW%20MESSAGE%20PAGE.htm. 8-)
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Post# 93-5/21/2001-17:01 ||| Dadoes (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
First Post
MESSAGE: Quite a spiffy piece of work, Uni! It was acting a little flaky for a short while, especially in Netscape, but things seem to have cleared up now.
I do have a few comments and suggestions.
1. On the discussion area, where you have the pink section showing the message topics, and the white section for the text of the messages, it would be helpful to have a larger, more visible frame line between them to facilitate resizing the two frame sections.
2. As Louis suggested, a next and back link when perusing posts would be helpful, but the Archive section also works well for that.
3. Can you add Fisher & Paykel wallpaper? I know that's not exactly vintage, but . . .
4. I LOVE the picture-of-the-day feature!
5. Will club members have their own photo album areas for posting pictures?
6. What is the possibility for having a preview post function, for purposes of proofreading and editing before final submission?
7. How much server space is available for our domain?
8. You might consider using hyphens or underscores in the .htm filenames, instead of spaces. Current versions of IE and Netscape generally replace the spaces with %20, but, as I've heard, some browsers have trouble with spaces in filenames. It's also a little disconcerting to see the Address or Location field in the browser report the page as http://www.classicappliances.com/NEW%20DISCUSS/DISPLAY%20PAGES/POST%20A%20NEW%20MESSAGE%20PAGE.htm. 8-)
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Post# 94-5/21/2001-17:06 ||| Dadoes (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: First Post
MESSAGE: When I posted the first post, everything before point number 3 didn't appear. I used my browser's back button to get back to the composition screen, and removed some quotation marks, as well changing a sentence that ended with an ellipsis (space-dot-space-dot-space-dot) to just a period. Posted it again, and now it's OK.
But I don't think the ellipsis was the problem, because I just noticed there is also one on point number 3 about the Fisher & Paykel wallpaper. Could have been the quotation marks.
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Post# 95-5/21/2001-17:48 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Its Perl Baily...
MESSAGE: I just loved it when Pearly sold those westy. Was it dahlin or honey she used a lot?
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Post# 96-5/21/2001-18:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: First Post
MESSAGE: Thanks Dadeos, I will work on some of your requests tonight. Keep checking back. This evening. You're right about the quote marks are making Perl chock. I think I have a fix though and will give it a try.
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Post# 97-5/21/2001-18:04 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
QUOTATION MARKS-DO NOT USE
MESSAGE: Hey guys, for the time being don't use any quotation marks, its making the program skip a beat. I'm researching a fix now, I might a solution.
Thanks, all you guys posting stuff really helps uncover the bugs so we can get this thing up and running!
*****
Post# 98-5/21/2001-18:05 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Its Perl Baily...
MESSAGE: I don't remember Perl selling Westinghouse washers Appnut, did she do this for quite a while?
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Post# 99-5/21/2001-18:16 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Ignore-Test
MESSAGE: The following message is a test without any quotes
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Post# 100-5/21/2001-18:17 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Ignore Test2
MESSAGE: The following message contains "
quotation"
marks.
This is another test, please ignore this message guys!
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Post# 101-5/21/2001-18:21 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Ignore Test2 (another test)
MESSAGE: This message also contains "
quotation"
marks.
This is only a test:
Hi everyone, I was recently asked what is the difference between the Unimatic and the other Frigidaire washers and I wanted to give an explanation for those who might not know.
The Unimatic transmission was designed and built by a Frigidaire engineer named Kenneth O'Sissen back in the late 1930's. Kenneth, who was hired by Frigidaire after working at Bendix where he invented the incrementing timer for their bolt-down washer and Kenneth’s basic timer design is still used today in some washers and dishwashers. His Unimatic, (Uni. meaning one and Matic short for automatic) consisted of a pulsator crankshaft & spin cage/brake assembly type transmission located on the top, a motor mounted in the middle and a water pump mounted underneath the motor. It was one complete direct drive unit without any clutches, drive belts or pulleys. The motor ran at 1140rpm, the gearing ratio in the pulsator part of the mechanism made the agitator go up and down in a 1 7/8” stroke at 330 pulses per minute. Since there was no gearing in the spin section of the mechanism, the tub spun at the same rate as the motor -- 1140rpm, which made for incredibly dry clothes. Because of the war effort it wasn’t until 1947 that Frigidaire introduced this mechanism in its very first washer, model WJ-60. Unimatic washers for domestic use were continued to be produced through 1958.
In 1955 Frigidaire engineers experimented with a belt-drive mechanism and introduced the Pulsa-Matic mechanism on its lower end washer model WV-35. The Pulsa-Matic agitated up and down at a very rapid 630ppm and also spun the tub at 630rpm, which was the slowest spinning full-size washer GM Frigidaire ever produced. Because of the rapid agitation with the Pulsa-Matic, Frigidaire shortened the length of the stroke of the agitation from 1 7/8"
to 3/4"
. This change in agitation stroke and pulse rate did reduce the rate of turnover of the clothes which made for less tangling, but did not clean anywhere near as well as the Unimatic’s agitation. For this reason the Pulsa-Matic only lasted 4 years as they continued to market it in '56, '57 and '58. These models (WV-35, WS-56, WD-56, WS-57, WD-57, WS-58, WD-58 and WDP-58) are now some of the rarest of the Frigidaire washers and I only know of one collector that has one of these Pulsa-Matic washers.
The only major design of the Unimatic washers outside of the normal yearly changes in the cabinet and control panels was the introduction of the 3-Ring Agitator in 1956, with a neoprene rubber, gray colored cap, lint-chaser ring and circulator ring. The same colors were used in ’57 and a bleach cup was added. In ’58 Frigidaire’s advertising firm suggested that they color the rings (sort of like they did in the ’57 magazine ad’s), so the cap became turquoise, the lint chaser ring became yellow and the circulator became a coral color.
In 1959 Frigidaire introduced their first coin-operated washer (model WCOZ). The WCOZ used the Unimatic tranny and coin-op Unimatics were produced until 1964. Starting in 1965 Frigidaire introduced other coin-op machines with various mechanisms and continued to make them until the mid 70’s. About 1962 Frigidaire introduce their top-loading Dry-Cleaner, it too used the Unimatic mechanism and I'm not sure how long it was produced for (anyone out there know????).
For the new 1959 domestic washer line Frigidaire discontinued the Unimatic (for home use) and completely discontinued the Pulsa-Matic. They now introduced the Multi-Matic which was nothing more than a very advanced version of the Pulsa-Matic. It consisted of two drive belts (one for agitate and one for spin), a new two speed motor and a special clutch to shift drive power between the two belts. This arrangement produced Frigidaire's first multi-speed washer, allowing for 330ppm for normal wash speed or a 220ppm delicate speed as well as a 850rpm high spin speed and a 330rpm delicate spin speed. Because of the slower 330ppm Frigidaire was now able to return the agitator stroke back to a full 1.25"
just like the old Unimatic. For the 1963 line Frigidaire introduced it's new 12lb capacity tub, but unfortunately for both the 1963 and 1964 line Frigidaire cheapened the clutch design of the Multi-Matic which dropped the high spin speed from 850 all the way down to 710.
In 1965 (actually it was the end of the year 1964) Frigidaire introduced the Roller-Matic mechanism. This was now a belt-less mechanism again with rollers of different sizes to drive the transmission. They also brought back the high speed spin of 1010rpm (not quite as fast as the 1140 of the Unimatic, but still very impressive). The Imperial and Custom Imperial washers had this 1010 “Rapidry spin” as well as a 650 mid level spin and a 330 low speed spin. Agitation speeds remained at 330 normal or 220 delicate speeds. In '65 they also introduced the "
Deep Action Agitator"
which was also referred to as "
Jet-Action"
. They had been experimenting with this 3-cone agitator since 1962 when they stated placing it in their coin-op machines, but for some reason waited until '65 to introduce it into the domestic line.
The 1970 line brought some very big changes. They introduced the new 1-18 washer with big 18lb perforated tub and the Jet-Cone agitator. The normal agitation speed was brought up from 330ppm to 360ppm and the spin speed was lowered from 1010 to about 660. They day's of the high speed spin were now over, even though its 660 was still the fastest spin available through the 1970's.
Of course in 1980 GM sold off Frigidaire it will never be the same :( . For a few years they kept the same general look of the cabinet and control panel of the 1-18 but inside was a 1970's design Westinghouse Top-Loading washer, one of the worst top-loader washer designs ever. It was a very dark-day in applianceville. The first time I saw this new Frigidaire after catching my breath, I nearly cried. I don’t need to describe to anyone out there in applianceville what WCI is producing now as a top-loader.
If anyone has any additions to add this piece of history, that would be really great!
*****
Post# 102-5/21/2001-18:21 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Final Test
MESSAGE: Hi everyone, I was recently asked what is the difference between the Unimatic and the other Frigidaire washers and I wanted to give an explanation for those who might not know.
The Unimatic transmission was designed and built by a Frigidaire engineer named Kenneth O'Sissen back in the late 1930's. Kenneth, who was hired by Frigidaire after working at Bendix where he invented the incrementing timer for their bolt-down washer and Kenneth’s basic timer design is still used today in some washers and dishwashers. His Unimatic, (Uni. meaning one and Matic short for automatic) consisted of a pulsator crankshaft & spin cage/brake assembly type transmission located on the top, a motor mounted in the middle and a water pump mounted underneath the motor. It was one complete direct drive unit without any clutches, drive belts or pulleys. The motor ran at 1140rpm, the gearing ratio in the pulsator part of the mechanism made the agitator go up and down in a 1 7/8” stroke at 330 pulses per minute. Since there was no gearing in the spin section of the mechanism, the tub spun at the same rate as the motor -- 1140rpm, which made for incredibly dry clothes. Because of the war effort it wasn’t until 1947 that Frigidaire introduced this mechanism in its very first washer, model WJ-60. Unimatic washers for domestic use were continued to be produced through 1958.
In 1955 Frigidaire engineers experimented with a belt-drive mechanism and introduced the Pulsa-Matic mechanism on its lower end washer model WV-35. The Pulsa-Matic agitated up and down at a very rapid 630ppm and also spun the tub at 630rpm, which was the slowest spinning full-size washer GM Frigidaire ever produced. Because of the rapid agitation with the Pulsa-Matic, Frigidaire shortened the length of the stroke of the agitation from 1 7/8"
to 3/4"
. This change in agitation stroke and pulse rate did reduce the rate of turnover of the clothes which made for less tangling, but did not clean anywhere near as well as the Unimatic’s agitation. For this reason the Pulsa-Matic only lasted 4 years as they continued to market it in '56, '57 and '58. These models (WV-35, WS-56, WD-56, WS-57, WD-57, WS-58, WD-58 and WDP-58) are now some of the rarest of the Frigidaire washers and I only know of one collector that has one of these Pulsa-Matic washers.
The only major design of the Unimatic washers outside of the normal yearly changes in the cabinet and control panels was the introduction of the 3-Ring Agitator in 1956, with a neoprene rubber, gray colored cap, lint-chaser ring and circulator ring. The same colors were used in ’57 and a bleach cup was added. In ’58 Frigidaire’s advertising firm suggested that they color the rings (sort of like they did in the ’57 magazine ad’s), so the cap became turquoise, the lint chaser ring became yellow and the circulator became a coral color.
In 1959 Frigidaire introduced their first coin-operated washer (model WCOZ). The WCOZ used the Unimatic tranny and coin-op Unimatics were produced until 1964. Starting in 1965 Frigidaire introduced other coin-op machines with various mechanisms and continued to make them until the mid 70’s. About 1962 Frigidaire introduce their top-loading Dry-Cleaner, it too used the Unimatic mechanism and I'm not sure how long it was produced for (anyone out there know????).
For the new 1959 domestic washer line Frigidaire discontinued the Unimatic (for home use) and completely discontinued the Pulsa-Matic. They now introduced the Multi-Matic which was nothing more than a very advanced version of the Pulsa-Matic. It consisted of two drive belts (one for agitate and one for spin), a new two speed motor and a special clutch to shift drive power between the two belts. This arrangement produced Frigidaire's first multi-speed washer, allowing for 330ppm for normal wash speed or a 220ppm delicate speed as well as a 850rpm high spin speed and a 330rpm delicate spin speed. Because of the slower 330ppm Frigidaire was now able to return the agitator stroke back to a full 1.25"
just like the old Unimatic. For the 1963 line Frigidaire introduced it's new 12lb capacity tub, but unfortunately for both the 1963 and 1964 line Frigidaire cheapened the clutch design of the Multi-Matic which dropped the high spin speed from 850 all the way down to 710.
In 1965 (actually it was the end of the year 1964) Frigidaire introduced the Roller-Matic mechanism. This was now a belt-less mechanism again with rollers of different sizes to drive the transmission. They also brought back the high speed spin of 1010rpm (not quite as fast as the 1140 of the Unimatic, but still very impressive). The Imperial and Custom Imperial washers had this 1010 “Rapidry spin” as well as a 650 mid level spin and a 330 low speed spin. Agitation speeds remained at 330 normal or 220 delicate speeds. In '65 they also introduced the "
Deep Action Agitator"
which was also referred to as "
Jet-Action"
. They had been experimenting with this 3-cone agitator since 1962 when they stated placing it in their coin-op machines, but for some reason waited until '65 to introduce it into the domestic line.
The 1970 line brought some very big changes. They introduced the new 1-18 washer with big 18lb perforated tub and the Jet-Cone agitator. The normal agitation speed was brought up from 330ppm to 360ppm and the spin speed was lowered from 1010 to about 660. They day's of the high speed spin were now over, even though its 660 was still the fastest spin available through the 1970's.
Of course in 1980 GM sold off Frigidaire it will never be the same :( . For a few years they kept the same general look of the cabinet and control panel of the 1-18 but inside was a 1970's design Westinghouse Top-Loading washer, one of the worst top-loader washer designs ever. It was a very dark-day in applianceville. The first time I saw this new Frigidaire after catching my breath, I nearly cried. I don’t need to describe to anyone out there in applianceville what WCI is producing now as a top-loader.
If anyone has any additions to add this piece of history, that would be really great!
*****
Post# 103-5/21/2001-18:24 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
YAY for 1010 page and RPM's
MESSAGE: Page number 1010 (just like the Rapidry 1000 spin speed) told me how to convert those "
quotes"
to their hexadecimal values so the system wont choke on "
quote"
marks anymore. You guys can resume using "
's. Thanks for the help, this is great!
*****
Post# 104-5/21/2001-18:28 ||| UNimATic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Lets see if this works
MESSAGE: How does my name look?
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Post# 105-5/21/2001-18:32 ||| uniMATIC1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
LOUIS, this was for you
MESSAGE: I just changed the code so your login name will appear in the pink index as well as in the white message in same the same capital case that you typed it to log-in.
In other words, when you hit login type your username in all upper case if you want it to show in all upper case or any other case you like, it will show up exactly as you type it in!
YAY, everyone gets to have their name shown exactly as they want without any extra if-then code on the server!
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Post# 106-5/21/2001-19:03 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
And for my next trick
MESSAGE: The F&P wallpaper should appear just for you Dadoes!
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Post# 107-5/21/2001-19:19 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Now I'm Miele Fan
MESSAGE: Miele Logo added to the choices, as well as F&P. Any other logo requests, I have a lot more coming?
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Post# 108-5/21/2001-19:48 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: First Post (thank you)
MESSAGE: Hi Dadoes, thanks for all those great suggestions. Here are my responses to each one...
#1. I tried adding a visiable frame line between the frames, and this works great for us at 800x600 and above, but there are quite a few of us at 640x480 screen resolution and it took up quite a lot of screen real estate. I can still add them if we think is necessary though, just want to be thoughtful of those who have smaller screens. Let me know.
#2. NEXT and PREV post buttons I will look into coding this during the long holiday weekend coming up. This is going to take a lot of coding and I want to get the other small bugs out first before I start adding major code.
#3. DONE, you can change your wallpaper by going into the Edit My Profile button.
#4. Thanks, I have 24 pictures loaded, but I'm going to upload more tonight. The system generates a random number every day to pick a new picture.
#5. Eventually it would be nice to figure out a way that everyone can post their own pictures. But for now lets all continue using Yahoo Photos. For stuff being added to the libraries anyone who wants to add something can scan it at 100dpi and email to me and I will add it for now.
#6. I will look into a preview feature, I don't think this is going to be as hard to write or as server-tasking as the PREV and NEXT buttons, so I will try and do that this week.
#7. Hispeed (our server company) says we have unlimited server space, but I don't believe that. I bet its around 500mb or so.
#8. I change the files names of the pages but our users really wont need to know the exact name, they just want a button to click to do all the work.
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Post# 109-5/21/2001-20:27 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Checking Site on AOL (YAY)
MESSAGE: Yes, the wallpaper was there too - I was only using AOL's internet feature (through the AOL shell) not Netscape, although I'm sure they are pretty closely related.
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Post# 110-5/21/2001-20:28 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Checking Site on AOL (YAY)
MESSAGE: Oops, forgot to mention one thing I noticed. I was only on the site for few minutes, but when I posted the message orginally, I couldn't see it in the message list right away, even with the re-load a couple of times.
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Post# 111-5/21/2001-20:37 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
Reply to Screen Suggestion
MESSAGE: Would it be possible to have a "
View Replies to this Message Key"
that would pull up a list of message postings that were a reply to an orginal post. Yahoo has a feature like this and it could be a handy tool if we are researching a topic from the archives. The keyword search would work for this too, but the View Replies would be nice for more specific on topics. Not something vital that we'd need right away, but down the road would be nice to have - just a little more powerful edge?
*****
Post# 112-5/21/2001-20:39 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Its Perl Baily... (On TV too!)
MESSAGE: Do you remember her on the TV commercials? There were a number of them (including the shot in the pic of the day) where she was halking Westy wares. Gotta love Pearl!
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Post# 113-5/21/2001-20:52 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Its Perl Baily... (Pics )
MESSAGE: Is this going to change every day?
Peter
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Post# 114-5/21/2001-20:54 ||| Peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Its Perl Baily... (change logo)
MESSAGE: I thought I would try another
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Post# 115-5/21/2001-20:56 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Its Perl Baily... (hi peter)
MESSAGE: change back to Whirlpool if you don't mind. I think I just figured out the logo problem with netscape.
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Post# 116-5/21/2001-20:57 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Its Perl Baily... (Yup)
MESSAGE: The picture of the day only lasts 24 hours, it automatically changes at 3am your time.
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Post# 117-5/21/2001-20:59 ||| Peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Its Perl Baily... (changed )
MESSAGE: Ok Robert
I changed back to Whirlpool
Peter
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Post# 118-5/21/2001-21:03 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Its Perl Baily... (its working)
MESSAGE: yay, hopefully all new message will show the wallpaper properly. Netscape didn't like my file names.
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Post# 119-5/21/2001-21:10 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Its Perl Baily... (thanks)
MESSAGE: Thanks for your help Pete. By the way, I just got off the phone with John and he says your going down there to DC for a visit. Should be fun, I can't wait to see the museum in person.
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Post# 120-5/21/2001-21:18 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Its Perl Baily...
MESSAGE: Yes, Uni, Pearl was the tv spokesman for Westinghouse for a number of years, before & after the WCI debaucle. I only remember her selling the front load washers too.
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Post# 121-5/21/2001-21:27 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Its Perl Baily...
MESSAGE: thanks appnut I never saw any of her commercials, otherwise I would have remember them. Just this little magazine ad.
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Post# 122-5/21/2001-21:29 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
A new logo suggestion
MESSAGE: Uni, can ya dig up a Hamilton logo. I think we should pay homage & respect to the pioneer of the dryer and such a rugged, long-lasting machine. Heck, I may change posting wall paper every day just to be fun.
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Post# 123-5/21/2001-21:33 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Its Perl Baily...
MESSAGE: Oh that's okay "
dahlin"
. Pearl used to have her ads quite a bit on the Merve Griffin Show, some soaps, and other afternoon shows like Griffin's that my mom would have on the tv when i got home from school. Jane Wyatt, from Father Knows Best, used to do ads for Kenmore. I remember a mag ad she did for the LK w/d you had in your basement, until recently; the piano keyboard LK in avocado; as well as a LK roto-rack ad entitled "
The best cleaning lady in town."
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Post# 124-5/21/2001-21:34 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Reply to Screen Suggestion
MESSAGE: Thats a great idea Greg, I'll add that to the to-do list for the future enhancements. Your westinghouse wallpaper should now be fixed for all new messages you post in Netscape. Thanks for helping double check AOL.
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Post# 125-5/21/2001-21:47 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: And for my next trick
MESSAGE: YeeeHawww! I gots wallpaper!!
(testing it with this post)
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Post# 126-5/21/2001-21:48 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: And for my next trick
MESSAGE: And my nick case is correct-a-mundo!!!
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Post# 127-5/21/2001-22:00 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Two New Logos added
MESSAGE: One for Scott, one for Appnut!
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Post# 128-5/21/2001-22:07 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: A new logo suggestion (logos logos everywhere)
MESSAGE:
Two nights of Anne Frank, I need to talk appliances!
Norge logo with the squares around the letters.
That wonderful Bendix script.
Is the Kenmore one the one with the '60 K?
The Speed Queen logo with the queen with the perfectly horizontal hair, like on Greg's 54's?
Not to mention the different Frigidaire crowns. How about a background with the spiffy woman in long gloves and crown "
doing the sheer look"
?
Isn't there a Kelvinator and/or ABC logo?
Robert: for the logos, do you get them from digital pics you take or from literature scans?
Oh God, Monica Kaufmann has white hair! That woman has more hair styles than Dolly Parton has wigs! She's a news anchor here...
I won a Frigidaire '56 tech talk on ebay tonight.
11pm and I'm pooped! You guys have a wonderful night! Catch you in the morning...
Robert: your doing great!
-ph
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Post# 129-5/21/2001-22:10 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion (bug)
MESSAGE: The program also does not like "
greater than"
and "
less than"
signs. My last post started with Whew! in the pointed brackets and that emotional sigh is missing altogether...
-ph
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Post# 130-5/21/2001-22:14 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion (OY)
MESSAGE: One at a time please boys! Don't worry I have logos for everything. In time everybody requests will be furnished.
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Post# 131-5/21/2001-22:15 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion (bug)
MESSAGE: Thanks Peter I have to do the same to those greater than and less than signs that I did with the quotes. I knew having everyone test would turn up the bugs quickly. Thanks you guys.
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Post# 132-5/21/2001-22:16 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion (Explorer script error)
MESSAGE: I got the internet Explorer script error pop-up at work, but I figure that was just my work PC with the network connection. I just got it here on my laptop using AOL. Does anyone know if there is there an internet setting I need to check?
-ph
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Post# 133-5/21/2001-22:19 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion (slow down, sweetie!)
MESSAGE: Robert... Sweetie... Slow down! I don't want them all in yesterday! I was just asking how you got them into your 'puter... Don't you be up all night doing this computer hokus-pokus... Sleep is a good thing, amongst other things horizontal...
'nite all!!!
-ph
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Post# 134-5/21/2001-22:21 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion
MESSAGE: Thank you Mr. Uni, you gentleman and scholar you!!!
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Post# 135-5/21/2001-22:31 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion (my pleasure)
MESSAGE: After all this I should be able to go out and get a job as a web designer.
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Post# 136-5/21/2001-22:33 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion (slow down, sweetie!)
MESSAGE: Oh, I forgot, this isn't work? Actually I'm having so much fun doing all this I really don't mind. Its really good experience for me anyway.
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Post# 137-5/21/2001-22:37 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion (Explorer script error)
MESSAGE: Peter try it again first thing in the morning and see if this error was still coming up. We'll try to troubleshoot it then.
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Post# 138-5/21/2001-22:55 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Well since I can't read the posts on Yahoo
MESSAGE: I'm being sent back to message 40 again. Hopefully I can see Todd's new sink in the morning. Nite guys.
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By the way, the first person to see the new picture of the day gets a special message telling them they are the first viewer. If you're first please let us know that you did get the message.
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Post# 139-5/21/2001-24:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Its Perl Baily... (Kenmore Print Ads)
MESSAGE: I have a number of ads for Sears appliances with lots of notable people. All of them have the same foundation - " (name of famous person) could afford any washer, dryer, refrigerator, sewing machine, etc. - but they chose Kenmore." The Jane Wyatt LK ad is great - an all glass laundry room and the avocado set - true 70's!
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Post# 140-5/21/2001-24:39 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Its Perl Baily... (Kenmore Print Ads)
MESSAGE: That sounds wonderful! Let's get 'em scanned and on the site!
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Post# 141-5/21/2001-24:39 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Profiles Section - Member's Links
MESSAGE: Hi - how about a "favorite link" field in the profiles section? Several spaces would be nice for those of us that have a number of yahoo identities or sites that pictures are posted on, or better yet, we talked once about some kind of "link bank" for links to other fun sites, but could we have the same for each user/member for their individual sites indexed by user name, this would keep things organized for everyone. No hurry, I'll check back tomorrow - just kidding! Have a good night all.
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Post# 142-5/21/2001-24:42 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion (Logo gone again...)
MESSAGE: Westy logo is still gone for me tonight.......I changed to Miele to see if that one works for me.
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Post# 143-5/21/2001-24:42 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion (miele worked OK)
MESSAGE:
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Post# 144-5/21/2001-00:16 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: Picture of the Day suggestion
MESSAGE: The browser back button works of course, but how's about a link for "home" on it?
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Post# 145-5/22/2001-04:08 ||| EDDY1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Well since I can't read the posts on Yahoo (first to see the pic of the day)
MESSAGE: Good morning all. Well, I guess I was the first to see the new pic of the day! I did get the message telling me that indeed I was the first. The website has been working great for me so far. Nice to see everyone here.
Eddy
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Post# 146-5/22/2001-05:29 ||| Scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT: New web site
MESSAGE: Robert you did a fabulous job with this web site! I'm jelous because I never would have been able to do anything like this. I't really looks good. Thank you!
SD
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Post# 147-5/22/2001-05:54 ||| Foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: LOUIS, this was for you
MESSAGE: Robert, you are the greatest!!!! And thanks for the Miele logo, from now on I will be posting on a Miele background, YAY!
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Post# 148-5/22/2001-06:41 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion (Logo gone again...)
MESSAGE: Morning Greg, change your wallpaper back to westy, it should work now. I made a fix last night, but you need to reset your profile.
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Post# 149-5/22/2001-06:54 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the Day suggestion (You wish is my command)
MESSAGE: DONE
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Post# 150-5/22/2001-06:54 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Well since I can't read the posts on Yahoo (first to see the pic of the day)
MESSAGE: Thanks Eddy, glad to know that does work! I'm never up early enough.
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Post# 151-5/22/2001-06:57 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New web site
MESSAGE: Thanks Scott, welcome to Applianceville 2
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Post# 152-5/22/2001-07:03 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: 19 Members & Counting
MESSAGE: 19 Members have signed up and added profiles, YAY. We're growing already.
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Post# 153-5/22/2001-07:40 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Driest Spin In Town!
MESSAGE: Some of you guys might remember this postcard, it was the very first picture I posted to share with the "new club".
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/unimatic1140/vwp?.dir=/Frigidaire&.dnm=Driest+Spin+In+Town!.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 154-5/22/2001-08:16 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion (happening at work)
MESSAGE: I go into my profile, change my wallpaper to Hotpoint, click to update, and...
An error has occurred in the scirpt on this page.
line: 11
char: 1
error: object expected
code: 0
Do you want to continue running the script on this page? y/n
-ph
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Post# 155-5/22/2001-08:22 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Driest Spin In Town!
MESSAGE: Back then, they would install all these washer, then install one 50# dryer for about every 4 washers! So it's always more impressive to show lots and lots of washers and kinda ignore the dryers. Boy, I'd love to find 6 coin-op Frigidaires to replace my GE's.
-ph
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Post# 156-5/22/2001-08:31 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: POTD 5/22
MESSAGE: Those Westy coin-op were in every laundry room at the University of Rochester in 1981. They were replaced with Maytags in 1983. The ones in the basement of my dorm were significantly older than the ones in the rooftop laundry, and the old ones washed and spun significantly faster than the newer ones, such that the indexing tub didn't seem to hinder washing too badly. Love the way they took the side-opening lid, put a hinge on the back and put the little chrome handle on the front. The only purpose for the lid switch was to sense that the lid was down, so when the washer went into spin, the lid lock solenoid was activated. You could fake it out with a pencil, then leave the lid up for spin observation. I think the old SQ coin-ops did the same.
-ph
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Post# 157-5/22/2001-08:47 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion (error)
MESSAGE: Peter are you only getting this when you press "update change to my profile button"? And did this happen at home or just on your work computer? What browser and version are you running at work? Any details will be helpful, has anyone else seen this error message? Even though you received this error it looks like its still working fine because you were able to change your wallpaper, but I would still like to figure out the cause of the error message.
Thanks Peter
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Post# 158-5/22/2001-08:49 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Driest Spin In Town! (dream machine)
MESSAGE: I would love to find a 1959 WCOZ Frigidaire coin op Unimatic, with a round window lid, that would be a dream machine.
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Post# 159-5/22/2001-08:52 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD 5/22 (spin speed?)
MESSAGE: Peter I don't think those Top-Loading Coin-Op Westinghouse machines spun any faster than the domestic models did, they were pretty slow at 550 rpm or so. I remember the laundry rooms in my Grandparents Condo after they moved to Fort Lauderdale in 1974 had 5 coin-op Whirlpools and just 1 of those Westy coin-op top loaders. I thought it was a neat machine.
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Post# 160-5/22/2001-09:20 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion (error)
MESSAGE: Yes, just when I update my profile. I'm running Internet Explorer 4.72 here at work. At home, it's AOL v5. The updates seem to take, and since it is happening in 2 different places with different PC setups, it's more of a Windows thing rather than anything with the website...
-ph
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Post# 161-5/22/2001-09:26 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD 5/22 (spin speed?)
MESSAGE: Not the dorm basement machines. If the new machines upstairs were washing at about 60 spm, the basement machines were at 70-80. Kinda like comparing a Maytag wash speed to a GE. They were much more vigorous and brisk. I'd assume the spin was faster. I couldn't tell by dryer time, as those Westy dryers were really bad, and each one dried differently.
-ph
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Post# 162-5/22/2001-09:28 ||| ()
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion (DaDoes)
MESSAGE: Maybe DaDoes can help with this one?
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Post# 163-5/22/2001-09:31 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD 5/22 (coin vs. domestic)
MESSAGE: Oh, I didn't mean that there was a difference between the coin and home models. I meant that the difference was between older and newer models. The basement machines had the plastic covered wire clothes guards, gray agitators with very deep cuts between the vanes and the barrel/skirt. The newer machines had light blue agitators with shallower cuts, plastic clothes guard. Seems to me the hole pattern in the tub was different too. The older machines made that curved-agitator-sucking sound as they washed; the newer machines just hummed along.
-ph
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Post# 164-5/22/2001-09:31 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion (who ARE you?)
MESSAGE: That post has no author... We have a ghost already!
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Post# 165-5/22/2001-11:05 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: LOUIS, this was for you (Just a test)
MESSAGE: I'm home again, I saw a few things at work. Now a post as a little test.
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Post# 166-5/22/2001-11:06 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD 5/22 (Lid Lock Defeaters Anonymous -LLDA)
MESSAGE: Peter I used to take a pencil and jamb it into the Speed Queens at the Laundromat too! The speed queens used to make so much noise when they were filling up. AS if they were pumping the water from deep in the ground!
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Post# 167-5/22/2001-12:43 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion (DaDoes)
MESSAGE: It's definitely related to IE 4.xx. I have two computers at the office running IE4, and I get the script error on both when updating my profile, although the changes do appear to take effect. I don't get the script error on IE5/5.5 or Netscape 4.75. I've seen other sites that trigger script errors as well with IE4.
Just my opinion, but seems like the best solution would be for PeterH to upgrade his IE to insure compatibility with the latest script coding on all the sites he may visit. It's easy to do. Go to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com and click on the "Product Updates" link -- NOT on the rather prominent link for IE 5.5. Scroll through the list of available updates, and get your choice of either IE 5.02 or IE 5.5. Be sure to also get all the Critical Updates, and look in the Recommended Updates section for the Microsoft Virtual Machine. Some of the items must be a single download, then you reboot and go back to get more, until you have everything you need. Beware that a browser upgrade will likely be a very large download -- it may start with a small "installer" that is only a few hundred KB, but then that will download the rest of the update, possibly as much as 17 MB.
LINK: http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
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Post# 168-5/22/2001-12:45 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion (DaDoes)
MESSAGE: Forgot to mention . . . stay away from the IE6 Beta.
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Post# 169-5/22/2001-12:52 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: LOUIS, this was for you (everything OK Louis?)
MESSAGE: Is everything working OK for you?
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Post# 170-5/22/2001-12:54 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD 5/22 (SQ Lid Locks)
MESSAGE: I used to do the same thing with the Speed Queen coin ops. I noticed that once the locking bar came across the lid switch lever, it automatically would hold down the lid switch level and it would spin with the lid open.
Talk about a bug that was never fixed!
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Post# 171-5/22/2001-12:55 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion (DaDoes)
MESSAGE: Thanks Dadoes, I'll look at line 11 of the code, but wont worry too much about it.
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Post# 172-5/22/2001-13:23 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: LOUIS, this was for you (everything OK Louis?)
MESSAGE: Robert, everything works like a charm, I'm enjoying this thoroughly.
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Post# 173-5/22/2001-14:00 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Driest Spin In Town! (window lid)
MESSAGE: Wow - I thought those were Hamilton machines with that window lid! (tee hee)
What a dream that would be - guess it was really the driest spin the country at that point.
Great postcard - thanks.
Now let's see if the Westy logo works....
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Post# 174-5/22/2001-14:08 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: YaPOO isn't working at all now....
MESSAGE: I tried to get into the club (and other Yapoo sites) this AM early, but it wasn't working - couldn't even get the home page up for several minutes. When I clicked on posts, it took me to mssg. 40 everytime. This site was certainly timely - I wouldn't be able to get my "Appliance Fix" without it! I should be in the garage working on some anyway.....
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Post# 175-5/22/2001-15:08 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Driest Spin In Town! (HEY)
MESSAGE: Excuse me, but isn't it still the driest spin in town, what up with this "was really the driest spin the country at that point!" Mister!
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Post# 176-5/22/2001-15:10 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: YaPOO isn't working at all now.... (Yahoo Pictures)
MESSAGE: Yahoo Photos is also acting funny, at least we can say we've always been able to get into the new Applianceville. A missing logo here and there, an error message on occassion, but at least the posts all pop up within a second or two after posting them and we've never been sent back to message 40 here, YAY.
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Post# 177-5/22/2001-16:37 ||| Scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Hi Everybody!
MESSAGE: Wow! There are a lot of messages over here already, everyone is having a good time! Robert, you have outdone yourself as usual, thank you for all your hard work. I really like the way the posting and reading system works. Glad to see we can edit our profiles as I'm sure I'll think of things I want to add or change!
I've really been enjoying the picture of the day feature too.
Scott
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Post# 178-5/22/2001-16:38 ||| Scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Background
MESSAGE: Oops I had forgotten to select a background!
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Post# 179-5/22/2001-16:42 ||| Peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire background
MESSAGE: I thought I would try being JetAction is my favorate
Peter
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Post# 180-5/22/2001-18:31 ||| Scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Steve D--
MESSAGE: What is a 1968 Frigidaire "High Fashion" washer? This sounds intriguing! Scott
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Post# 181-5/22/2001-18:48 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi Everybody! (Hey You)
MESSAGE: Hi Scott, welcome to the Club, we've been anxiously wait for you to arrive. I purposely scanned the F and Crown logo for you last night cause I knew it would be your favorite! Enjoy.
We’re still in test mode, but things are running so much better than I expected that I think we can soon consider "going live".
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Post# 182-5/22/2001-18:57 ||| Scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi Everybody! (Hey You)
MESSAGE: Thanks! I saw your post earlier where you talked about scanning the later Frigidaire logo and I was so pleased! I'm glad things are running smoothly, we're on our way! S
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Post# 183-5/22/2001-19:27 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi Everybody! (THIS IS A TEST)
MESSAGE: THIS IS ONLY A TEST, PLEASE IGNORE, I'M TRYING TO FIND THE CAUSE OF TODAY'S GHOST POST.
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Post# 184-5/22/2001-19:32 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi Everybody! (TESTS COMPLETED)
MESSAGE: THANKS FOR YOUR PATIENCE GUYS.
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Post# 185-5/22/2001-20:31 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: Thanks Robert!!
MESSAGE: Just wanted to thank you again Robert! This new site is wonderful!!
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Post# 186-5/22/2001-20:37 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Thanks Robert!! (YAY)
MESSAGE: Hi Jason, welcome to the club!
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Post# 187-5/22/2001-20:38 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Driest Spin In Town! (HEY)
MESSAGE: I was speaking only of the period in which that postcard was made - you would be correct though, still is the driest spin, but there aren't any Unimatic equipped laundromats around now!
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Post# 188-5/22/2001-20:40 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: YaPOO isn't working at all now.... (Server is lightening fast!!)
MESSAGE: I love the speed and reliability with this site versus yahoo - it's like a slice of heaven!
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Post# 189-5/22/2001-20:49 ||| kc4ab (limaburg ky)
SUBJECT: RE: New web site
MESSAGE: dam he found me
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Post# 190-5/22/2001-20:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Driest Spin In Town! (HEY)
MESSAGE: True, true, Greg, sad but true.
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Post# 191-5/22/2001-22:01 ||| EDDY1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: Unimatic's range pic
MESSAGE: Hi Robert, I remember you posted a picture of your range in one of your photo albums. I can't seem to find it. Could you tell me which yahoo photo album it's in? I have a friend over who is into vintage electric and gas ranges and I wanted to show him. Thanks,
Eddy
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Post# 192-5/22/2001-22:07 ||| Scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Unimatic's range pic
MESSAGE: Hi Eddy! Here you go, in case Uni doesn't get back to see this! Thank you for your email, sorry I've taken so long to get back to you we'll talk later or soon! Scott :)
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/unimatic1140/vwp?.dir=/Frigidaire&.src=ph&.dnm=Frigidaire+1954+30+Range.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/unimatic1140/lst%3f%26.dir=/Frigidaire%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 193-5/22/2001-22:15 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Unimatic's range pic (thanks)
MESSAGE: Thanks for your help Scott, looks like you uncovered another minor bug to be fixed too.
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Post# 194-5/22/2001-22:24 ||| EDDY1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Unimatic's range pic (thanks)
MESSAGE: Boy that was fast! Thanks guys ;-) drop me an email anytime, Scott!
Eddy
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Post# 195-5/22/2001-22:33 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight
MESSAGE: And she's not happy about it one bit. This golden piece of art came from our wonderful trip to Rockford this last weekend.
Of course what you're about to see is temporary, but we can drag it out again during the convention.
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/miscbrands00/lst?&.dir=/quick+share&.src=ph&.view=t&.last=1
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Post# 196-5/22/2001-22:35 ||| Scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight
MESSAGE: LOL, so your jeans have been "spanked" clean. ;-) Was there tangling at the end of the load?
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Post# 197-5/22/2001-22:42 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Unimatic's range pic
MESSAGE: Hi Eddy, I know Scott already replied to your message, but it had a bug because the link was printed in the wrong spot. I just put in a fix and want to see this takes care of it.
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/unimatic1140/vwp?.dir=/Frigidaire&.src=ph&.dnm=Frigidaire+1954+30+Range.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/unimatic1140/lst%3f%26.dir=/Frigidaire%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 198-5/22/2001-22:42 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Unimatic's range pic (WoooHoo)
MESSAGE: It's fixed, another bug bites the dust!
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Post# 199-5/22/2001-22:44 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight (Caught)
MESSAGE: No the jeans weren't tangled, but one of the legs did get caught under one of those flex vanes as I was taking the clothes out of the washer. I was really stuck and I had to reach down and loosen the poor thing.
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Post# 200-5/22/2001-22:45 ||| Scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight (Caught)
MESSAGE: I wondered about that, with no bottom part of the agitator, if things would get caught down there under the post by the "workings".
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Post# 201-5/22/2001-23:04 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight
MESSAGE: Robert, I had a sneeky suspicion you would do this and had been praying you wouldn't I'm glad she didn't like it. But I gotta admit, I never got to see one of these agitators in action, so I'll have to allow myself the experience why conventioning. Somebody get me the smelling salts. I feel faint.
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Post# 202-5/22/2001-23:06 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Unimatic's range pic (WoooHoo)
MESSAGE: Just call you the Orkin man of applianceville!!!
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Post# 203-5/22/2001-23:08 ||| Austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: Just got all signed in. This is great!
MESSAGE: Hi Guys,
Just got all hooked up to "Applianceville." Nice job Robert, This just works so well. Thanks so much agian. Now to go hunt around the site some more.
Todd
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Post# 204-5/22/2001-23:11 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Just got all signed in. This is great! (Welcome Todd)
MESSAGE: Hi Todd, welcome to the club!
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Post# 205-5/22/2001-23:11 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight
MESSAGE: Yes, I immediately recognize the detergent cup cap in pic 5 that's supposed to go on top of the agitator. However, I think it looks more period appropriate on a black scrubber cap, personally.
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Post# 206-5/22/2001-23:54 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight (Caught)
MESSAGE: Question: Why only four pairs for a full load (high water level)? Seems like it should comfortably hold more than that. Four pairs is a medium load in my F&P, and I can get eight pairs in for a full load.
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Post# 207-5/22/2001-23:57 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight
MESSAGE: I recall my one of my aunts had a 1960's Kenmore Series 70 (or maybe was Series 60) with the fat bakelite Rotoswirl, and it had the detergent cup / scrubber cap. Another aunt who had a LK runner-up from the 1970's had the scrubber cap, but I never recall the detergent cup being on it -- it must have gotten lost early in the machine's life. Then when the scrubber got all sticky and grungy, they pulled it off and had only the plastic under-cap.
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Post# 208-5/22/2001-23:59 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Words in parens in subject lines
MESSAGE: What are these words that appear in parens in the subject lines, like "caught" and "woohoo"...where are they coming from?
I just got home from work and came on, and when I went to post this message, I got the cute error message! I won't give it away so everyone can enjoy the fun the first time they get it!
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Post# 209-5/22/2001-00:00 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: oh and...
MESSAGE: what is the difference between "subject" and "subject drift" and does that have to do with the words in parens?
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Post# 210-5/22/2001-00:05 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight (Caught)
MESSAGE: Glen, this is a 9 or 10 pound washer capacity.
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Post# 211-5/22/2001-00:20 ||| Austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: What are the plans for the Yahoo club site?
MESSAGE: Hey Robert,
Are there any plans for the future of the Yahoo club. Will we eventually just abandon it? This seems so much more suited to "our" needs.
Todd
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Post# 212-5/23/2001-04:11 ||| Arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight
MESSAGE: Sorry Uni but that is an UGLY agitator. The Ladys black spriral is just so stylish and elegant. HEy its a shame no one makes those spirals anymore, they always seemed to wash sho well.
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Post# 213-5/23/2001-06:47 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight (Caught)
MESSAGE: Hi Dadoes, with most of my machines 4 jeans is the limit before the turnover stops. With a Frigidaire 3-Ring or 2-Ring Agitator, I can get five to turn over, but usually I just wash four pairs at a time even in the Frigidare. Washing five pairs of jeans in a Frigidaire is hard on the rubber pulsator.
Whirlpool and Kenmore standard capacity machines claimed to have a 14lb capacity, but I don't really believe that.
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Post# 214-5/23/2001-06:50 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Words in parens in subject lines (I'm drifting)
MESSAGE: That's the subject drift Scott. The reason I wrote this into the program was becase so many times when we are posting messages we don't take the time to start a new message when the subject starts to "DRIFT" off of the original subject title. The subject drift box is an optional field to let members add a word or two to the orginal subject line to help make the pink index list a little bit clearer.
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Post# 215-5/23/2001-06:52 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Words in parens in subject lines
MESSAGE: Yes and this "error message" I wrote last night and it isn't a bug YAY. Lets see how many people find it today.
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Post# 216-5/23/2001-06:54 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: What are the plans for the Yahoo club site?
MESSAGE: That's sort of up to everyone in the club to decided Todd. I was a great start for our first 20,000 messages, but we needed something more powerful. I will post in both places until we stop using one or the other.
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Post# 217-5/23/2001-06:56 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight
MESSAGE: Hi Arrrooohhh, welcome to the club, nice to see you here. Is there a particular logo you would like to have scanned for your background wallpaper? If you have an Australian logo you would like, scan and email it to me, I will make turn it into a very light shade of gray and add it to the list of wallpaper choices.
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Post# 218-5/23/2001-07:07 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight
MESSAGE: I was wondering when you would try that agitator. Was the lint filter full when the load was done? I'm surprised to see a measuring cup/cap-top that isn't broken, all the ones I remember from years ago were either broken and long trashed or just plain gone.
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Post# 219-5/23/2001-07:11 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Decisions, Decisons
MESSAGE: OK, we'll the test is going better than I ever imagined. While there will be many enhancements and new features added (and probably a few more bug corrections) to our new club over time, I think its safe to start "officially posting to the club".
Do you guys want to keep our first 200 some messages, or should I delete them tonight and we start fresh at message #1? I'll let you guys decided.
Also I could use a hand in writing the "help" section for Applianceville. Any volunteers? I just need a block text written that explains how to sign-up, login, post new and replied messages, etc. Any help would be appreciated, and this would help make the creation of Applianceville an Applianceville-wide effort.
Let's discuss...
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Post# 220-5/23/2001-07:13 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight (K detergent cups)
MESSAGE: Those cups are still available! You can order them through Sears FSP parts, at least they were available about 6 ago when I purchased a few of them for a wopping $2.95. Later I'll try and get the part # for everyone. The gold scrubber cap was also still available then.
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Post# 221-5/23/2001-07:21 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Decisions, Decisons
MESSAGE: I vote to keep the first 200 messages, but still have an "Official Startup" whenever you are ready. As far as the help section, I vote for Scott! He's a very articulate and accurate typist and would be able to create a great welcome/sign-up guide. Sorry if you don't want the job, Scott - just a natural choice for this!
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Post# 222-5/23/2001-07:22 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight (K detergent cups)
MESSAGE:
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Post# 223-5/23/2001-07:39 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Decisions, Decisons (GO Scott)
MESSAGE: I agree Greg, Scott would be a great choice! Scott no pressure here of course, but feel like writing a help page for using applinceville?
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Post# 224-5/23/2001-07:40 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight (oops)
MESSAGE: Hmmmmm, looks like I also need to write a subroutine to prevent accidental blank posts.
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Post# 225-5/23/2001-07:49 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: What are the plans for the Yahoo club site?
MESSAGE: Unless I've missed something here, Yapoo has the instant messaging (chatting) feature we don't have here.
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Post# 226-5/23/2001-07:54 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: A new logo suggestion (can't upgrade)
MESSAGE: Can't upgrade here at work until the desktop people "certify" a new version. Sux...
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Post# 227-5/23/2001-07:58 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Driest Spin In Town! (HEY)
MESSAGE: There could be, Greg... Give me time.. :)
-ph
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Post# 228-5/23/2001-08:00 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Unimatic's range pic (link placement)
MESSAGE: Robert: should the link that Scott posted go into the message he replied to?
0ph
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Post# 229-5/23/2001-08:03 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Unimatic's range pic (link placement)
MESSAGE: There you go... You gotta read all posts before you post, or you just trip up all over yourself...
-ph
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Post# 230-5/23/2001-08:08 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight (oh dear)
MESSAGE: The first pics look like an octopus -- or is that a hexopus? But then, after the machine is full, it a very erotic image arrising from the dark water. I'm surprised that housewives everywhere didn't just LOVE this agitator. LOLOLOL
-ph
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Post# 231-5/23/2001-08:11 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight (blank posting)
MESSAGE: Just thought I'd try that - it's happened a couple of times on yahoo and I'd rather have an error message than post a blank mssg.
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Post# 232-5/23/2001-08:11 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Words in parens in subject lines (no login)
MESSAGE: That is WAY cute!!!
-ph
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Post# 233-5/23/2001-08:11 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: New "bug"
MESSAGE: When replying to a previous message, the previous message isn't being quoted in a box below when the reply is posted.
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Post# 234-5/23/2001-08:44 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Libraries and collections
MESSAGE: When will some of the new features be up and running, specifically the collection photo albums? Just curious, as I bought a digital camera last night, and Yahoo seems to be having picture album issues today!
-ph
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Post# 235-5/23/2001-08:45 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Libraries and collections (Westinghouse?)
MESSAGE: Did I pick this wallpaper? I must have had a Perl moment...
-ph
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Post# 236-5/23/2001-08:47 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Libraries and collections (GE)
MESSAGE: in honor of my 6 toploaders at the 'mat... Besides, I don't think anyone tried this one yet.
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Post# 237-5/23/2001-08:50 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Profile screen enhancement
MESSAGE: Not a must-have, but a nice-to-have: A small window to the right of the walpaper popup, such that when you click on a wallpaper choice, you can see the logo you are selecting before saving.
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Post# 238-5/23/2001-08:52 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: What are the plans for the Yahoo club site? (Instant messaging)
MESSAGE: Hi Bob, good point, but can you explain to me how Yahoo Instant messaging works? My only experience with it is this:
About a year ago, I tried turning on instant messaging. That same evening I was uploading pictures to share with you guys when Chad pop in with an instant message asking me "Uni How Do I take apart my new ABC-O-Matic to lubricate it." What that did was to kill my upload and I had trouble getting logged back on after that. I immediately turned Yahoo Messaging off and never turned it back on.
I thought you log into instant messenger and you can instant message anyone else that is logged in to instant messenger? Why couldn't you continue to use that system? Maybe I don't understand it that well.
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Post# 239-5/23/2001-08:55 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight (oh my)
MESSAGE: Naughty boy you! LOL
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Post# 240-5/23/2001-08:57 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Libraries and collections (patience, patience)
MESSAGE: Since we have Yahoo Photos, lets continue to use that for the time being. I going to need to learn more programming on how to write code so everyone can upload stuff to our server. But for now, lets just keep posing our picts to Yahoo, that usually works well.
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Post# 241-5/23/2001-08:58 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: What are the plans for the Yahoo club site?
MESSAGE: So log onto Yahoo's chat program and then come here. I don't thik it's that hard to do and Yahoo works with any web page. Heck, you don't even need a web page up to use Yahoo Chat.
QOTS
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Post# 242-5/23/2001-08:59 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Profile screen enhancement (keeping track)
MESSAGE: We all have such great ideas, that I'm having trouble keeping track of them. I will add a button for suggested enhancements this weekend, that way we can all keep ideas for the site in once place.
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Post# 243-5/23/2001-09:00 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (are you sure)
MESSAGE: Hi Bob, I don't see any sign of this bug, can you post an example of a RE: that isn't showing its the previous text?
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Post# 244-5/23/2001-09:04 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Libraries and collections (YAY)
MESSAGE: Oh, I forgot to say congrats Peter on you new digital camera! YAY will get to see more of your collection now! What kind of Camera did you end up getting?
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Post# 245-5/23/2001-09:25 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Libraries and collections (camera info)
MESSAGE: Sony DSC-S50... An open box special at Micro Center, $407.00... Serial cable missing, so they thru in the memory stick diskette reader thingy, saying it's better than the serial connection. And I can do some short movies with it, so it'll be fun!
Any recommendations for memory stick size? I think this came with a 4mb stick...
-ph
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Post# 246-5/23/2001-09:29 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Libraries and collections (64MB)
MESSAGE: Get the 64MB disk Peter, otherwise you'll be sorry when you run out of space too soon. The 64MB holds 168 pictures at 1024x768 resolution.
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Post# 247-5/23/2001-09:58 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi Everybody!
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, we find it really wonderful to see you here now too. We hope that we will meet you here for many years to come.
QLOTOC
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Post# 248-5/23/2001-10:22 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: Question for Robert
MESSAGE: When I'm reading messages at Yahoo I can easily see what message I have read last, because the links that I have clicked stay red for two weeks (in my case ofcourse, depending on the settings of the browser). That system doesn't seem to work here on this site. Are there others with the same problem? If so, would it be possible to make this site display the reading history? It would be a great help. Louis
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Post# 249-5/23/2001-10:37 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: Hello all of you out there in Appliance-land
MESSAGE: Hey guys! This website is great! I feel like I've moved into a new home. Thanks again Robert for building it!
Rich
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Post# 250-5/23/2001-10:38 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Libraries and collections (camera info)
MESSAGE: Hi Peter,
I have a 4mg thingy in my cam and it works pretty good IF you pull the picts off it often. Mine is set on Standard Resoultion and Better pic quality. With those setting I can get 40 picts to the 4mb card. The card reader is much better and faster than the serial cable connection. I bought one a while ago and love it. If I were you I would watch the prices on the cards and do some serious searching for the best prices. Mostof the time you will find the best price online. I have seen then differ by more that 30 dollars for the same card at different stores.
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Post# 251-5/23/2001-10:49 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Libraries and collections (camera info)
MESSAGE: Jason, Which model camera do you have?
-ph
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Post# 252-5/23/2001-10:50 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: What are the plans for the Yahoo club site? (Instant messaging)
MESSAGE: Robert, sorry for the unfortunate combination of events. I guess another bad hanging chad. Anyway, my system has a missing file that doesn't allow me to download & install full IM. So, I simply click on the person's name on the club I wanna chat with. That particular version is an "abbreviated" (not proper term). I'll have to try another avenue I have in my head as an idea.
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Post# 253-5/23/2001-10:53 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (are you sure)
MESSAGE: Robert, I'll reply to this one. Even my just recent post about Yahoo IM didn't show the reply history & I'm not seeing anybody elses either. The feature was working on Tuesday for me.
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Post# 254-5/23/2001-10:54 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight
MESSAGE: Hey Robert...what fun...I knew this was coming when I saw that Rotoflex in Greg's pictures. Thanks for sharing. We'll definitely have to play "change the agitator" during the convention in whatever machines it is possible. I can't believe there are over 250 posts already...I gotta catch up!
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Post# 255-5/23/2001-10:55 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Question for Robert
MESSAGE: Luigi, I initially had the same concern. Just hit your reload button and it will then show the posts you've read with the "red" color--just like mine does/did.
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Post# 256-5/23/2001-10:58 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (are you sure)
MESSAGE: Robert, it's happening on machine at home & at work. I'm not seeing anybody else's reply history below their reply either. Using Netscape 4.5 & 4.7.
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Post# 257-5/23/2001-11:01 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (are you sure)
MESSAGE: I changed wallpaper--let's see what happens
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Post# 258-5/23/2001-11:02 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (are you sure)
MESSAGE: Oops, having a brunette moment. The "box" is showing up for composing the reply. So, I guess it is working properly. I thought the reply would show up in the actual posted reply. Sorry for the anxt.
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Post# 259-5/23/2001-11:04 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (are you sure)
MESSAGE: But I have to add, when one is reading others' posts, it's hard to determine what post number they're replying to. Am I missing something here then?
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Post# 260-5/23/2001-11:13 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Thats very strange Bob)
MESSAGE: Are you using the vertical scroll bars Bob to scroll down to the bottom of those white reply messages? All the replies have the original message posted in a box below, there all there when I look at it on my screen. BUT, I seem to remember you said you were using 640x480 resoultion. So I changed my monitor over to that resolution and what I found was you have to scroll down in the white area to see the box with the original message text posted in it? At 640x480 it doesn't all fit on one screen. Can this be what's happening Bob? I don't think anything is wrong with the program, since it appears to be working fine. Let me know ASAP, thanks Bob.
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Post# 261-5/23/2001-11:17 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Question for Robert
MESSAGE: Hi Louis, that whole red-message when already red thing has me a bit stumped, it does work when you hit reload, but sometimes they turn back to blue for no apperent reason. I'm researching how that whole system works so I can make them STAY RED like there suppose to.
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Post# 262-5/23/2001-11:19 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight
MESSAGE: Hi Rich, welcome to Applianceville 2. Glad your here!
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Post# 263-5/23/2001-11:43 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Thats very strange Bob)
MESSAGE: Yes Robert, I'm seeing the original post in a box when composing the reply to that specific post. so, that's fine. I just wish that in the actual posts, I'd see something to the effect "message #260, reply to message #241". Incidentally, I'm using 800 X 600 16-bit resolution. Thanks.
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Post# 264-5/23/2001-12:02 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Question for Robert
MESSAGE: That's not really the problem. The problem I have is when I get home from work and want to read all the new messages, they all are blue, including the ones I already have seen.
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Post# 265-5/23/2001-12:07 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Question for Robert
MESSAGE: We will consider giving you a Knighthood when you solve this problem.
QLOTOC
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Post# 266-5/23/2001-12:17 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Can't Be?????)
MESSAGE: BOB once again, I'm not talking about the green message composition screen, I'm talking about the actual WHITE posted reply message with the logos in it. At the VERY BOTTOM (use the scroll bars in the white zone if necessary) is a box with not only the message number but the whole text.
Look at this screen shot of what I'm seeing on 6 different computers. Does everyone else get this reply box at the very bottom of their white reply messages?
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/miscbrands00/vwp?.dir=/quick+share&.dnm=A+Shot+of+My+Screen+-1024x768.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 267-5/23/2001-12:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Reply message view - )
MESSAGE: Maybe I'm mistaken - this is all so new still, but wasn't the orginal message (or a couple of lines) shown in a box at the bottom of the screen when you are just READING posts (not posting a reply to a message, just reading one already on the system) I could be wrong about it appearing in the "read-only" box, but if that's too much work to build, then a button that simply says "this message is in reply to message #xxx by (user name)" that we could use to flip back to the orginal message if needed.
I think the shaded (red) message numbers on yahoo was not only in conjunction with your browser's settings, but also that the message list refreshed each time you went to it or read another posting. The screen reloads each time you move within the message system so you would have the shading of the message numbers each time. Perhaps our system could automatically refresh the top message list each time a move is made to either read, reply or post a message. I think it does do this when you reply or post a message as you are in a different screen anyway and then go back to message list when finished. A couple of times when reading messages, there were more messages posted while I was reading and unless you hit refresh once in a while, you don't get those new ones on the list.
Are you overwhelmed yet Robert? You're doing fantastic - we don't want the whole world in one day, take two days!
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Post# 268-5/23/2001-12:28 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Can't Be?????)
MESSAGE: It's not on mine - I thought I'd seen that before - I'm not crazy!
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Post# 269-5/23/2001-12:31 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Netscape $%&@)
MESSAGE: Netscape (the browser from hell) must be at it again. Everything works fine in IE5, I have had not ounce of trouble with IE5. Netscape on the other hand has been very difficult to work with. Tonight I will see what the heck is up with Netscape again and get it to work again, maybe Netscape doesn't like the box around the text, but it worked before??????
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Post# 270-5/23/2001-12:35 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Netscape $%&@)
MESSAGE: It is only Netscape - confounded browser!
BTW: I got buzzed - too cute for words!
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Post# 271-5/23/2001-12:39 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Pic of the Day - Bendix Duomatic
MESSAGE: One wonders why the entire family of five is sleeping in the same bed. I'll bet that Duomatic noise scared the crap out of the kids and they ran to their parent's bed!
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Post# 272-5/23/2001-12:50 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Can't Be?????)
MESSAGE: Robert, the answer is no, I'm not seeing what you displayed at your link. All I'm seeing is the reply, with no box underneath it. I even switched to 1024 X 768. Sorry to be such a pain.
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Post# 273-5/23/2001-12:59 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Can't Be?????)
MESSAGE: Robert, well Netscape strikes again. I'm at work. Using 4.5. Now, when I bring up IE 3.02, it's all there, just as it should be. Hmmm.
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Post# 274-5/23/2001-12:59 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Can't Be?????)
MESSAGE: I see all the original messages, including the # in the white screen. Louis
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Post# 275-5/23/2001-13:05 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Netscape $%&@)
MESSAGE: Robert, you're right, I just tested reading the messages on Netscape 4.7 and the original messages didn't appear in the white screen. IE5 works fine.
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Post# 276-5/23/2001-14:13 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Libraries and collections (64MB)
MESSAGE: I have the 4 MB that came with the camera, a 16 MB stick, and a 64 MB stick. I ordered the 64 MB on-line from www.provantage.com.
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Post# 277-5/23/2001-14:21 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - Bendix Duomatic
MESSAGE: That is a very strange Bendix ad isn't it? I wonder what the Madison Avenue Advertising executives were thinking when they created that ad?
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Post# 278-5/23/2001-14:27 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Can't Be?????)
MESSAGE: Thanks Bob, ok now I realize what we're dealing with. If you go back into the old posts in Netscape, does the white box and reply text appear before post #192? Another words does the reply boxes stop showing up after post 192? It might have to do with the fix that I put in last night to correct the link showing in the wrong spot on replies. Let me know what you find out. Thanks for your help.
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Post# 279-5/23/2001-14:33 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (no appology necessary)
MESSAGE: No need to appologize Bob, I so appreciate you help and we all need to work together to get applianceville running just the way we like it. The only thing I do ask is that when you guys are describing problems, to be as wordy and specific as possible. There is no such thing as too much information when describing the issues, the more information I get the quicker I might be able to figure out the problem. Thanks guys!
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Post# 280-5/23/2001-14:56 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Can't Be?????)
MESSAGE: The following posts do NOT show the original "boxed" message in Netscape 4.75 --
177 through 180
185
191
195
197 through 199
And I didn't check any further.
176 does show it
181 through 184 do.
186 through 190 do.
192 through 194 do.
196 does.
I thought perhaps it was posts that have links that didn't quote the original message, but those aren't the only ones.
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Post# 281-5/23/2001-14:57 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Can't Be?????)
MESSAGE: And Post #280 itself doesn't, and Post #281 (this one) probably won't either.
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Post# 282-5/23/2001-14:58 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Can't Be?????)
MESSAGE: Robert, I went back, I can see the "stuff" for #190 & prior, but after #190 post, I can't. Bob
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Post# 283-5/23/2001-15:09 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi Everybody!
MESSAGE: Thank you, Your Majesty, 'tis wonderful to see you here too, and I'm sure we will be meeting here for years to come! This posting system works so smoothly and nicely, we just really enjoy it.
QEOM
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Post# 284-5/23/2001-15:10 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Question for Robert
MESSAGE: That would be something to consider if it is possible....I was just reading posts and hadn't logged in, went to reply got the "message" and when I got back in, all the messages had turned to unread status, and fortunately I had remembered I'd left off with Louis' post.
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Post# 285-5/23/2001-15:11 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (OY)
MESSAGE: Careful Dadoes because posts #177-180, 185, 191, 195 are all NEW posts, so there would not be any replies to show. Post#197 and Post#199 should have the reply box, so it does sound like the fix I put in last night at message 192 screwed up Netscape reply boxes. In the words of my grandmother, OY. I bet this might be an easy fix, but I can't do it till I get home, since I don't have Netscape here at work to test it.
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Post# 286-5/23/2001-15:13 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi Everybody! (Yahoo Messenger)
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, we just installed Yahoo messenger (now offline) and received a message from you. We hope you do not mind that we added you to our friendslist and we hope to meet you soon.
Yours sincerely,
QLOTOC
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Post# 287-5/23/2001-15:13 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Libraries and collections (camera info)
MESSAGE: That is a good suggestion Jason....don't go to Best Buy and spend $140 for the memory stick, that is ridiculous. You can usually get them on Ebay and etc. for much less. I don't remember what I paid but it was well under $100 on Ebay.
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Post# 288-5/23/2001-15:16 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Keeping track of which messages you've read
MESSAGE: Hi, I just replied to a message, then afterward it took me to the "top of the list" (not where I had left off reading). So I hit "back" twice and got back to seeing where I was. I wonder if this maybe would have worked also when I was prompted to log in.
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Post# 289-5/23/2001-15:16 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Question for Robert
MESSAGE: Thanks Bob for that suggestion! We all have to help each other learn!
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Post# 290-5/23/2001-15:19 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Can't Be?????)
MESSAGE: Yes Robert, I have been getting that info. on the bottom of each screen. If I didn't mention before, thanks for the explanation on the "parens" thing!
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Post# 291-5/23/2001-15:24 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Netscape $%&@)
MESSAGE: For the IE uninitiated: IE = GM Frigidaire Washer
Netscape = beating your clothes on a rock in the river.
I used to get so frustrated that certain things wouldn't even open, refresh, show up or do whatever. I switched about 3 years ago, never looked back, and never again had an ounce of trouble.
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Post# 292-5/23/2001-15:28 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi Everybody! (Yahoo Messenger)
MESSAGE: Absolutely! I am always happy to chat with anyone out there that might like to! Just to let everyone know that it doesn't work here at work, so that only applies to my "at home" hours.
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Post# 293-5/23/2001-15:31 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Decisions, Decisons (GO Scott)
MESSAGE: Yes Robert, I would be happy to "help" out by writing a "help" page. Why don't you email me or something with an outline of topics you'd like to see covered, and I'll start "plugging away"! Isn't it nice to be able to post during the day, LOL. Hopefully your computer office won't catch on to this site!
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Post# 294-5/23/2001-15:42 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Netscape $%&@)
MESSAGE: Damn it, I got buzzed again. It is very cute though!!!! Can we have the off balance sound too?? Oh Robert, sweet Robert.....How about putting something in if you can that will automaticaly log us in like with Yahoo and some other sites? I suppose I could remember(really means not be so lazy) to log in everytime I come to the site but it is so much easier just to click the link and be logged in. Oh, and would it be too much trouble to try and make the main message page update by itself? When I am done reading all the posts I have to go back and refresh the page to see new posts.
BTW, I'm not having any problems with IE5.5.
Louis, I think I know what your problem is. This is what happens to me, maybe it's the same with you. When I read the posts without logging in I can see the ones I have already read BUT if I log in all of the one I have read are now marked as unread. So I figure if I log in first than read the posts it should all be marked correctly and stay that way for future log ons.
Jason
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Post# 295-5/23/2001-15:51 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Netscape $%&@)
MESSAGE: Hi sweetie, I have not found it necessary to re-login every time I leave and return to the site. So far, the only time I have had to do so is when I go from work to home and vice versa. I wonder if it is set up to last for a certain period of time, like Yahoo?
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Post# 296-5/23/2001-16:17 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (OY)
MESSAGE: Well, hell's bells. That's what I get for doing too many things at once, and not paying proper attention to any of them.
But anyway, at least we have confirmed there is another insect involved.
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Post# 297-5/23/2001-16:43 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: Yeah laundry done for all you combo owners!
MESSAGE: We dual machine types still have to get up and transfer the wash into the dryer.
-dual-machining in boston
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Post# 298-5/23/2001-16:45 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - Bendix Duomatic (Bendix Duo)
MESSAGE: They are playing on the "ALL" detergent line as well as the "Bendix".."all" the familys' wash is done in All while they "all" sleep.
Sillyboyz!
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Post# 299-5/23/2001-17:13 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Yeah laundry done for all you combo owners!
MESSAGE: I thought you had a combo Jon - who has the Easy combo?
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Post# 300-5/23/2001-17:35 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - Bendix Duomatic (Bendix Duo)
MESSAGE: Well, you know what they say---all's well that ends well.
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Post# 301-5/23/2001-17:38 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Netscape $%&@)
MESSAGE: Well, here are a few observations I've made. With IE, when I hit refresh, the "read" links return to the "unread" state. Also, if I exit a browser, I have to re-login when I come back to the site, even if it's 3 minutes later. With Netscape, by "read" links stay "read".
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Post# 302-5/23/2001-17:43 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Yeah laundry done for all you combo owners!
MESSAGE: It's John Eichenger who has the Easy Combo, he lives over in West St. Paul Bendixboy 56.
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Post# 303-5/23/2001-17:47 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Can't Be?????)
MESSAGE: thanks Scott!- Give me a few minutes guys, I'm fixing the bug!
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Post# 304-5/23/2001-18:12 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - Bendix Duomatic
MESSAGE: I could be a subliminal ad for Orthonovum as well!
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Post# 305-5/23/2001-18:13 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - Bendix Duomatic
MESSAGE: IT not I - hee hee!
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Post# 306-5/23/2001-18:14 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Libraries and collections (camera info)
MESSAGE: Hi Peter,
My brother has the dsc s30. Got it for $300 on line. Including the 64mg card. It's super and the 64mg card is a great way to go. I don't know that I'd spend the extra on the dsc s50, unless you want to take advantage of the movie mod. Check prices on Cnet.com and ebay.
Todd
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Post# 307-5/23/2001-18:19 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Ding Dong the Bug is Dead
MESSAGE: Hey guys, one html tag in placed in the wrong spot made Netscape choke on those reply boxes. I fixed the code and edited over 100 messages.
Most people will not have to bother with the following instructions: If your still not seeing the reply boxes you will have to clear your Netscape memory by selecting FILE...PREFERENCES...Click on the + next to the ADVANCED outline bar and select CACHE. On the Right side of the frame click the CLEAR MEMORY BUTTON and the CLEAR CACHE BUTTON.
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Post# 308-5/23/2001-18:25 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Ding Dong the Bug is Dead (A Bug Story)
MESSAGE: In one of my many technical manuals that I've been reading to create this website, there was the interesting story about how we came to call computer glitches bugs:
In 1945, Grace Hopper (she probably was washing in a wringer washer the poor dear) was a programmer working at Harvard University on the Mark II, one of the first large-scale computers. One day, a system that had been working suddenly stopped. She researched the problem and was able to find the cause--a moth inside the computer. She pasted the "bug" inside the system logbook, and computer problems have been called "bugs" ever since!
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Post# 309-5/23/2001-18:27 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Libraries and collections (camera info)
MESSAGE: Hi Peter,
I have the Kodak DC215. Not a bad little toy and the price was just right!
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Post# 310-5/23/2001-18:28 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Ding Dong the Bug is Dead (A Bug Story)
MESSAGE: Robert, per your instructions, it's working here.
Thanks.
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Post# 311-5/23/2001-18:30 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Decisions, Decisons (GO Scott)
MESSAGE: Hi Scott, all we need is some simple text for how to use Applianceville. Such as how to sign up, how to log on, how to read the posts and how to use the pink index pages. Thanks for your help.
We can place the help button on the initial white page where the three bullets show up now when you first arrive in Applianceville.
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Post# 312-5/23/2001-18:33 ||| Whirlpool (San Diego)
SUBJECT: Wow this is totally awesome
MESSAGE: Very nice job Robert. Love the colors...
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Post# 313-5/23/2001-18:38 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Netscape $%?&@)
MESSAGE: We'll that's a very interesting thing Jason. For one thing, I cannot for the life of me get the browser to save members password once you leave applianceville. I haven't given up yet, I'll get it, if it kills me, but it's going to take some more research.
As for the Refreshment, on all my computers it DOES automatically when you post a new post or reply to a new post as well as when you hit the next button in the pink index, all the new posts show up. But for Jetcone, his computer does not automatically refresh, so I have a feeling the problem is two fold. First I have not quite figured out how to make the program automatically refresh on everyones computer, second I believe there are internal settings in your browser that effect this type of automatic refresh. Play with them a little bit Jason and tell me what you come up with. If your an IE user, I would upgrade to IE5.5, it seems to automatically refresh in IE5.5.
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Post# 314-5/23/2001-18:42 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Wow this is totally awesome
MESSAGE: We'll hi Steven, welcome to the Club!
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Post# 315-5/23/2001-18:43 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Half Baked Laundry Ideas
MESSAGE: Check out this cute site I stumbled upon - some very "laundry challenged" people out there in cyber-land!
LINK: http://www.halfbakery.com/category/Home:%20Laundry
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Post# 316-5/23/2001-18:50 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Decisions, Decisons (GO Scott)
MESSAGE: k. :)
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Post# 317-5/23/2001-19:09 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Decisions, Decisons (GO Scott)
MESSAGE: thanks Scott!
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Post# 318-5/23/2001-20:09 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Netscape $%&@)
MESSAGE: Jason, first thing I do is to log in, but next time I log in, I can't see which message I have seen last. I also noticed that sometimes messages are marked red, that I haven't read yet. It's when I press the Previous button. Last message I read was 274. When I reloaded I came above 300. Number 300 was red and when I pressed Previous also 299 was red. Louis
LINK: and there's more
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Post# 319-5/23/2001-20:11 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Half Baked Laundry Ideas
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg for the link, very amusing. BTW, there are toploading dryers in Europe.
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Post# 320-5/23/2001-21:03 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: Voompah! Voompah!
MESSAGE: LOVE THAT LIVE WATER ACTION!!!
Jetcone
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Post# 321-5/23/2001-21:10 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Netscape $%?&@)
MESSAGE: Hi Robert,
I'll check different settings but I already have IE5.5 with all the updates and service packs. Who knows......
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Post# 322-5/23/2001-21:13 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Netscape $%&@)
MESSAGE: That is strange Louis. For the most part it works for me. I just have to remember to hit refresh everytime I post or reply to a post so I can see that it has gone up there.
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Post# 323-5/23/2001-21:15 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Netscape $%&@)
MESSAGE: Now I think I have lost it. When I posted post #321 it did not refresh on it's own. I had to hit refresh. Now that I just replied to your post #322 it refreshed all by itself. Strange. I think there may be a gremlin in here.
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Post# 324-5/23/2001-21:16 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Voompah! Voompah! (Refresh the Home Page Everyone!)
MESSAGE: There's a new surprise waiting for you...
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Post# 325-5/23/2001-21:16 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Netscape $%&@)
MESSAGE: Ok, I have not lost it!! It just did it again. Time to find the gremlin!
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Post# 326-5/23/2001-21:17 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Voompah! Voompah! (Refresh the Home Page Everyone!)
MESSAGE: I love it Robert!!!! That is just wonderful!!!
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Post# 327-5/23/2001-21:18 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (refreshing)
MESSAGE: now i am trying to reply and see if this refreshes my screen---here goes jet
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Post# 328-5/23/2001-21:22 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Yeah laundry done for all you combo owners! (Greg...)
MESSAGE: Greg: I have two busted combos that neither John or Uni will fix so here i sit with dirty laundry in the morning......
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Post# 329-5/23/2001-21:43 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Voompah! Voompah! (Refresh the Home Page Everyone!)
MESSAGE: OH MY!! I was wondering what was taking so long to load (I'm on a 56K dial-up ... a brief pause, for fill I suppose, and then the pulsation beings. Wonderful!
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Post# 330-5/23/2001-21:44 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Voompah! Voompah! (Refresh the Home Page Everyone!)
MESSAGE: geeze, keyboard malfunction.
"and then the pulsation BEGINS."
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Post# 331-5/23/2001-22:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Yeah laundry done for all you combo owners! (Greg...)
MESSAGE: What kind are they?
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Post# 332-5/23/2001-22:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Voompah! Voompah! (Refresh the Home Page Everyone!)
MESSAGE: How cool - you have such a head for knowing this computer stuff!
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Post# 333-5/23/2001-23:16 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Voompah! Voompah! (Refresh the Home Page Everyone!)
MESSAGE: Oh.....I love this site!
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Post# 334-5/23/2001-23:21 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: 54 Speed Queen Restoration Begins
MESSAGE: I spent some time tonight on the '54 Speed Queen washer as I can't wait to see it running again. As you may have guessed, after 25 years of sitting on the showroom floor unused, it needs a bit of work. I took a couple of pics of the problems I've started work on for you guys to see. I also scanned a page from the SQ shop service manual for a better view of the motor & fluid drive/clutch assembly.
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/surgilator/lst?&.dir=/1954+Speed+Queen+A12+Restoration&.src=ph&.view=t&.last=1
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Post# 335-5/23/2001-23:39 ||| Austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: 54 Speed Queen Restoration Begins
MESSAGE: Way to go Greg! She looks very good underneath. Nice and clean. If you find burned contacts in the time, you can polish them nicely with 400grit wet and dry sand paper. I like the fluid drive system. Very cool.
Todd
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Post# 336-5/23/2001-00:33 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 54 Speed Queen Restoration Begins
MESSAGE: Wow...whatever problems you come across, the machine looks remarkably good underneath for a machine its age. Thanks for sharing the beginning of your progress with us!
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Post# 337-5/23/2001-01:13 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: 54 Speed Queen Restoration Begins
MESSAGE: You're right, Scott. It's in the most pristine shape I've ever seen. Aren't the pictures fun? Thanks Greg and I hope she's up and running soon.
Eddy
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Post# 338-5/24/2001-02:29 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: New "bug" (Netscape $%&@)
MESSAGE: Jason, that's very strange too, most of the time I see the new posts without hitting the refresh button.
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Post# 339-5/24/2001-06:47 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 54 Speed Queen Restoration Begins (COOL!)
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg, wonderful pictures. We're all looking forward to the SQ's first premier wash load! The new pump looks great and you can easily get a brand new timer for the machine at Midwest Timer Service in Benton Harbor, MI. Did you take a test cord and place the leads on the spin solenoid and plug the test cord in? If the solenoid is OK, it should engage right into spin.
Even though Ray has said when the machines had been dropped off, at his store, over 25 years ago that they were working fine and I would bet that they were at that time. But a washer sitting around for 25 years is like a car sitting idle for many years. Usually a few components stop working from just lack of use over that time.
We're hungry for more restoration pics, keep 'em coming. Thanks again Greg.
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Post# 340-5/24/2001-07:05 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Question for Robert (viewing previously read msgs in red)
MESSAGE: Where, please, is this button and when do I mash it? Tom
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Post# 341-5/24/2001-07:10 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Question for Robert (Reload Button)
MESSAGE: Morning Tom, I think you said you were running in Netscape. The refresh button that they are referring to is called "Reload", its the thrid button from the left underneath the FILE...EDIT...VIEW...etc, menu bar at the top of your screen.
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Post# 342-5/24/2001-07:15 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - Bendix Duomatic (Bendix Duomatic)
MESSAGE: Greg, I figured that the family went to bed after it went into dry. By the way, were you kidding about having a collection of window AC units (post 37)? We have some and there are still one or two that I am looking for. Tom
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Post# 343-5/24/2001-07:22 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - Bendix Duomatic (Bendix Duomatic)
MESSAGE: Yes, I was playing around with the log-in/profile features about a month ago when Robert first brought the site online and entered all the window air info for fun. I remember some that I've seen over the years and a Philco that we used to have when I was little - some very neat machines out there. What do you have and what are looking for. I occasionally see some at sales, etc. but don't know much about them.
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Post# 344-5/24/2001-08:11 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Question for Robert (reload overload)
MESSAGE: Thank you, Robert. Tom
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Post# 345-5/24/2001-08:26 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - Bendix Duomatic (window ac units)
MESSAGE: Greg, John has a couple of the old Sears auto dehumidify units. I am looking for the old style GEs that were tall and not so deep (dated someone like that once) and in the mid-late 50s WH made a really neat unit that was shaped like the GE. Neighbors of ours had three of them. They used flat fan blades that looked like lawn mower blades, both for the evaporator and the condenser. The inside grill on the WH was a beige egg crate design with 4 square louvers in a line, one large dial in the lower left and the small thermostat knob below that. The outside grill had like 6 sections of louvers, some of which were angled opposite to their neighbors. I have one of the GEs, the cheapest one fan speed model, but am looking for one of the more deluxe ones with the pretty grill. Tom
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Post# 346-5/24/2001-08:31 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: Maytag rubber ring part #
MESSAGE: I think Jason or someone mentioned something about this to me, but I found the part no. for the rubber ring that goes at the base of the stainless steel lint filters. The part is MAY211667. I paid a whopping $1.52 for each of them 3 years ago. I think Jason said it made the turquoise plastic filters work better too. Tom
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Post# 347-5/24/2001-08:43 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: 54 Speed Queen Restoration Begins (PIX!!)
MESSAGE: Yes Greg MORE pix I am dying to see the tub and agitator!!!
Jet.
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Post# 348-5/24/2001-08:49 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Yeah laundry done for all you combo owners! (Combo Types)
MESSAGE: Greg I have a 1970 Lady Kenmore in Root Beer that John & I have been working on for 10 YEARS to try and get going again. And John gave me a 1967 GE Combo that works but is VERY LOUD. I have installed it in my new kitchen but am going to rebuild it this summer. Steve118 gave me one of those Chinese machines but another friend came up from COnnecticut and was swooning over it so I had to let him have it.
Jon
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Post# 349-5/24/2001-08:54 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: Now I get it where the Bendix is!
MESSAGE: I was looking at that ad and wondering where the heck they were all sleeping-------a room in the basement perhaps??? And WHY? But those combos were always advertised in the bathroom and that is a tile floor it is on. So its in the bathroom on the second floor. Tom is right WHO could sleep through one of those cycles, like the old dishwashers SWOOSH SWOOSH! We used to run our GE D/W right after dinner so we could watch our prime time shows without that ROARING in the background!
jon
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Post# 350-5/24/2001-09:18 ||| Estate-sale-gar (Golden Valley, MN)
SUBJECT: Back from the Dead - remember me, guys?
MESSAGE: It's been a while since Rob Seger and I've gone to sales on Saturday but I'll there this weekend...I'm glad that all of you like the Saturday pics! Rob, Scott and I have alot of fun posing for the pics! You should see the pictures that are edited out! I've heard so much about you guys from Rob...hopefully, I'll get to meet you all sometime! Rob...this site is IMPRESSIVE!
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Post# 351-5/24/2001-09:22 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag rubber ring part #
MESSAGE: Yes it does make the turquoise filters work much better. Another thing I did was to wrap the bottom of the filter with black tape covering up the little slits in the plastic and it also makes for a tighter seal so all the water passing thru actually gets filtered.
Jason
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Post# 352-5/24/2001-09:25 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Back from the Dead - remember me, guys? (Hi Gary)
MESSAGE: Welcome to the club, lets think Apex's and Redwing Dishes for the upcoming sales on Saturday!
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Post# 353-5/24/2001-09:43 ||| Estate-sale-gar (Golden Valley, MN)
SUBJECT:
MESSAGE:
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Post# 354-5/24/2001-10:46 ||| Estate-sale-gar (Golden Valley, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: Back from the Dead - remember me, guys? (Hi Gary)
MESSAGE: Sorry for the blank message....I've got fat fingers.
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Post# 355-5/24/2001-10:50 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Question for Robert (viewing previously read msgs in red)
MESSAGE: Tom, it's on my netscape navigaton toolbar. It says "reload". It's the same as "refresh" for Explorer
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Post# 356-5/24/2001-10:59 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Back from the Dead - remember me, guys?
MESSAGE: Gary, I'm glad you're with us. Welcome. And BTW, you'll get to meet about 15 of us in August when we come for the convention. And yes, your Saleing presence, or lack thereof, has been noted. Hope all is well with y'all.
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Post# 357-5/24/2001-11:13 ||| RobGwisdala (Troy Ohio 45373)
SUBJECT: Rotoflex agitator in 18lb capacity machines.
MESSAGE: Hello Everyone.
I just saw the pictures of the Rotoflex agitator in Robert's 1957 Lady Kenmore 14lb capacity machine.
Those pictures were fantastic! The Rotoflex agitator looks like it has a lot of cleaning power!
Could somebody try out the Rotoflex agitator in their 18lb capacity washer? I want to see what would happen in a "large capacity" washer.
Thank you.
Rob
ps= Robert, Thank you for building this website. I am enjoying it very much!
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Post# 358-5/24/2001-11:22 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Rotoflex agitator in 18lb capacity machines. (large capacity machines)
MESSAGE: Hi Rob, welcome to the club, your very welcome. I don't have any large capacity Kenmore machines in my collection, so I cannot try out your suggestion. Come to think of it I don't have any large capacity machines, except for my 12lb Frigidaire Coin-Op, but with the Deep-Action agitator in it you really can't consider that large capacity without putting in a 3-ring agitator.
You could definately consider the Whirlpool Combo a large capacity machine, but only for washing.
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Post# 359-5/24/2001-11:58 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - Bendix Duomatic (window ac units)
MESSAGE: Tom, do you have those things called "Evaporative Coolers" in Georgia? How are they different from an air conditioner? They seem to have them all over Arizona. Scott
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Post# 360-5/24/2001-12:09 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Wisk Tablets/Cascade
MESSAGE: Greg had given me a sample package of Wisk detergent tablets, and I tried one yesterday in a white load of clothes (at his guidance I used 1 tablet in my vintage standard capacity machine, and one seems to be just right for this size machine). It did a great job! Can't beat it for easy; I have a feeling these will be popular amongst the laundromat crowd...
Can someone tell what the difference is between Cascade "Clean (Clear?) Rinse Formula, and Cascade Complete, and why one might choose one over the other? My friend bought a box of the former, attached to which was a sample of the latter, which he gave to me. Last time I bought d/w detergent, there was only one kind. Scott
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Post# 361-5/24/2001-12:32 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Wisk Tablets/Cascade
MESSAGE: Hi Scott
I got a free sample of those Wisk tablets a long time ago and almost threw them out because I thought they were high-sudsing. Someone on the club said they were low-sudsing, so I tried them and liked the results. I picked up a box of 60 on sale for $3.99 this past weekend. They remind me of the Salvo tablets my mom used in her Laundromat for so many years. I just use one in my front-loader also.
Speaking of Wisk...I remember that original Wisk formula (liquid) that came out (late 50's I think) was VERY high sudsing. My grandmother tried it once in her 55 Frig Imperial, and that combined with the fact that she had a water-softening system, produced so many suds that they were coming through the opening in the lid handle. So much for ring around the collar.
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Post# 362-5/24/2001-12:45 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Rotoflex agitator in 18lb capacity machines.
MESSAGE: Hi Rob,
I have one coming down to me from John. Unfortunatly it would not fit into my suitcase so as soon as I get it I will put it in the machine and take some picts for everyone to see.
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Post# 363-5/24/2001-12:55 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - Bendix Duomatic (window ac units)
MESSAGE: Hi Scott,
When I live in Santa Fe I had one in both my houses. It is a big metal box with a water pump, 4 media pads that are actually hog hair filters, a large blower and tubes with jets on them.
What happens is the pump pumps the water up through the tubes to the top of the cabinet and down through the filter pads. The suction from the fan causes air to be pulled through the wet pads causing high evaporation cooling the air. It really is a very simple machine. Even on the hotest day, in a house with minimal insulation I was able to keep the house at 72 degrees.
You can either have the unit hooked up to a water valve for automatic filling of the water as it evaporates or you can fill it manualy. I converted mine from manual fill to automatic. I just could not see climbing on the roof in my house dress to fill the sump on the cooler.
After a few months you need replace or clean the pads because they get dusty and mineral build up from the water. I also put a special tablet in mine to keep the water from going bad and smelling the house up.
Jason
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Post# 364-5/24/2001-13:03 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Back from the Dead - remember me, guys?
MESSAGE: Welcome Gary - sorry to have missed you on Saleing Saturday several weeks ago when I was up there. Have you found any more lovely couches?
Hope to see you next time - Greg
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Post# 365-5/24/2001-13:09 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - Bendix Duomatic (window ac units)
MESSAGE: When I lived in Arizona, there was one of these in my father's winter home. I got there in August and it was HOT! I revved this cooler up once and didn't know that you need to leave a few windows open. Being in the desert, it cools off at night quite a bit and when I woke in the morning, the walls, windows, furniture - everything was wet with condensation from the cooler. That was only time I tried it - after that it was air conditioning for me!
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Post# 366-5/24/2001-13:11 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 54 Speed Queen Restoration Begins (PIX!!)
MESSAGE: I did post a pic that was sent to me by the guy who had them of the tub and agitator.
http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/surgilator/vwp?.dir=/May+2001++-++A+Speed+Queen+Story&.src=ph&.dnm=Inside+54+SQ+washer.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/surgilator/lst%3f%26.dir=/May%2b2001%2b%2b-%2b%2bA%2bSpeed%2bQueen%2bStory%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 367-5/24/2001-13:12 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 54 Speed Queen Restoration Begins (Here are the pix!)
MESSAGE: Links obviously have to be in the link box! Let's try again...
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/surgilator/vwp?.dir=/May+2001++-++A+Speed+Queen+Story&.src=ph&.dnm=Inside+54+SQ+washer.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/surgilator/lst%3f%26.dir=/May%2b2001%2b%2b-%2b%2bA%2bSpeed%2bQueen%2bStory%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 368-5/24/2001-13:15 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Back from the Dead - remember me, guys?
MESSAGE: Hi Gary, welcome to the club. Were you ever a member of the Yoohoo club or are you our first really new member? I guess we will be seeing you during the washer convention? Louis
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Post# 369-5/24/2001-13:37 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Wisk Tablets/Cascade
MESSAGE: Hi Rich, that's interesting to hear that they work well in the Frig. f/l. I got just a little foam on top of the water. I was very pleased with it and would use it again!
Funny how that Wisk was the only liquid all those years and now there are so many of them! I don't think we ever used it, but I always liked the commercials, LOL.
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Post# 370-5/24/2001-13:40 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - Bendix Duomatic (window ac units)
MESSAGE: Thanks for that explanation, Jason! Sounds like a pretty good deal, esp. in areas where one needs cooling so much of the time. Are they more cost/energy efficient than using a regular central a/c? I noticed most people had them on their roofs, and some sitting in the back yard like the central air thingys.
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Post# 371-5/24/2001-13:43 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - Bendix Duomatic (window ac units)
MESSAGE: It's actually a little more energy efficent because you don't have a compressor. But as was said before , you do have to leave a window open a few inches. You can even get a thermostst for it so that it turns on and off by itself.
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Post# 372-5/24/2001-13:43 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Back from the Dead - remember me, guys?
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, we explained to Gary long ago that your state visit would necessitate a personal greeting to you by him. We shall be here to see that he carries forth this mandatory request by the queen of his land.
QEOM
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Post# 373-5/24/2001-14:10 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Back from the Dead - remember me, guys?
MESSAGE: I think we alkl want a greeting by Gary, if not the case, I wannabe included in the greeting too.
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Post# 374-5/24/2001-14:49 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Rotoflex agitator in 18lb capacity machines. (= PentaSwirl/Vane)
MESSAGE: It probably washes no better or worse than the PentaSwirl or PentaVane agitators for the belt-drive Kenmores...
-ph
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Post# 375-5/24/2001-14:52 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - Bendix Duomatic (swamp coolers)
MESSAGE: Aren't these also known as Swamp Coolers? I have been kinda eyeing them for my 'mat. With all the dryers, having AC in a 'mat is kinda silly, especially since they are talking about electric rates increasing this summer. Grainger has several "portable" models in their catalog.
-ph
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Post# 376-5/24/2001-14:53 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Wisk Tablets/Cascade (Wisk)
MESSAGE: Wisk tablets will disolve in the FL dispenser while Tide does not. Either way, I council my customers to put tablets in the washer with the clothes, so there is no doubt where all the detergent ends up.
-ph
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Post# 377-5/24/2001-15:13 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: All you gotta do is ask!
MESSAGE: I just got off the phone with the biggest appliance recycler in the area. He finally decided to meet with me face-to-face to hear what I'm looking for! His company picks up all the used appliances from delivery services from Sears, Home Depot, Lowes, and a few other major retailers, moving about 2,000 pieces a week! This only adds to the fun of the hunt!
-ph
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Post# 378-5/24/2001-15:16 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - Bendix Duomatic (swamp coolers)
MESSAGE: Yuppers. They are not to be used where humidity control is a problem, because as mentioned in a previous post, they ADD humidity, unlike a "regular" air conditioner which removes it.
Evaporative coolers save on electricity because they only have the small fan motor and water pump running, and not a kilowatt-chugging compressor.
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Post# 379-5/24/2001-15:18 ||| estate-sale-gar (Golden Valley, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: Back from the Dead - remember me, guys?
MESSAGE: All of this pressure...what do I wear to a Washer Convention? Rob...what kind of washer and dryer to I have? Suddenly, I feel a tad bit intimidated. Yes Louis...I am new to the club. Rob called me today and showed me how to register.
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Post# 380-5/24/2001-15:25 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - Bendix Duomatic (swamp coolers)
MESSAGE: That makes sense then...it's hot there but typically very dry, very unlike Minnesota and a few other places I've heard or can think of....
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Post# 381-5/24/2001-15:27 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Back from the Dead - remember me, guys?
MESSAGE: Gary, you have a 1979 Montgomery Ward (Norge) set. Your usual estate sale attire you'll find will do you nicely for appliance conventions, greeting royalty, and the like. I'm very glad you have joined the club. My gosh, I haven't seen you in eons!
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Post# 382-5/24/2001-15:28 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Back from the Dead - remember me, guys?
MESSAGE: Gary, you have a 1979 Montgomery Ward (Norge) set. Your usual estate sale attire you'll find will do you nicely for appliance conventions, greeting royalty, and the like. I'm very glad you have joined the club. My gosh, I haven't seen you in eons!
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Post# 383-5/24/2001-15:35 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Back from the Dead - remember me, guys?
MESSAGE: Scott, I remembered Gary had the Monkey Wards burp-ups. Remember, I said I wanted to see them too?
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Post# 384-5/24/2001-15:36 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Wisk Tablets/Cascade
MESSAGE: Scott, Mike in Maine has used the Wisk tabs and loves them. I've not used them yet. As for the Cascade, the Complete is super for very heavy soiled stuff. I find it did a bit better on my sat-for-days oatmeal bowls than the electrasol powder. For what it's worth, CR's comments on the two formulas, had the Complete have better food redeposit results than the Clean Rinse formula. Also, they determined etching was less of an issue with the Complete version. FWIW.
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Post# 385-5/24/2001-15:39 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Wisk Tablets/Cascade
MESSAGE: Thanks Bob! I'm guessing this "Clean Rinse" is something akin to what was once simply called "Cascade" then? I will have to try the sample my friend gave me sometime and see how I like it. Scott
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Post# 386-5/24/2001-15:57 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: All you gotta do is ask! (WOW)
MESSAGE: Peter, this could be a really good lead!! When I look into my crystal ball I see a Unimatic in your future. My recycler has found me at least 11 or so of my best machines, including the '49 and '55 Frigidaire's, my '52 Filtrator and my fabulous new westy set.
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Post# 387-5/24/2001-16:10 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Back from the Dead - remember me, guys?
MESSAGE: Gary, I don't think there is any dresscode, but I bet at a washer convention there are going to be a few t-shirts and sweat shirts with appliance brand names on them.
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Post# 388-5/24/2001-17:40 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: 30" Frigidaire Flaire in High Springs Florida on ebay
MESSAGE: Hey Jason, a 30" single-oven Flaire on ebay. Initial bid $300. Looks in great shape. Even has rotis stuff. White.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1238371161
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Post# 389-5/24/2001-19:56 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: All you gotta do is ask! (Santa is coming!)
MESSAGE: Start making your list - when you have your fill, we'll post our lists too!
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Post# 390-5/24/2001-20:06 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: 386, 387 and 388-bug?
MESSAGE: Have these three messages disappeared from anyone else's screen? They still appear in the archives.
I have a good start on writing our help section, I should finish up between now and the weekend!
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Post# 391-5/24/2001-20:26 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 386, 387 and 388-bug?
MESSAGE: Ah, they're back now!
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Post# 392-5/24/2001-20:33 ||| RobGwisdala (Troy Ohio 45373)
SUBJECT: 1976-1995 Kenmore Logo.
MESSAGE: Hi Robert,
Could you post the 1976-1995 Kenmore logo for the personal wallpaper background?
Thank you.
Rob
ps= I want to use the 1976-1995 logo for my wallpaper.
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Post# 393-5/24/2001-20:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1976-1995 Kenmore Logo.
MESSAGE: Rob, I can't find any picture of that logo to scan, maybe if someone out there in Applianceville has it they can scan it and post it to their Yahoo Photo Album. I can capture it off of there and make it into wallpaper for you.
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Post# 394-5/24/2001-22:36 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1976-1995 Kenmore Logo. (Surprise)
MESSAGE: Actually Rob, after doing some looking, I found the 1980's Kenmore logo on a service manual. It's now all set-up in the system and ready for you. I would demonstrate it myself, but I just couldn't bring myself to do it! LOL
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Post# 395-5/24/2001-23:20 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: 1976-1995 Kenmore Logo. (Surprise)
MESSAGE: Well, Robert, I'll give it a go. Just for the fun of it.
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Post# 396-5/24/2001-23:22 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: 1976-1995 Kenmore Logo. (Surprise)
MESSAGE: But, I think I like the super rotoswirl better.
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Post# 397-5/25/2001-02:10 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: Hey Robert, How's the radar range working?
MESSAGE: I was wondering if you put your Amana into service and how you liked it?
Todd
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Post# 398-5/25/2001-06:39 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Question for Robert (reload/refresh)
MESSAGE: Thanks, Bob.
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Post# 399-5/25/2001-06:47 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hey Robert, How's the radar range working?
MESSAGE: Hi Todd, yes the day I brought my Amana Radar Range home I took my 1000 watt Kenmore and put it in the Attic. I was a bit concerned that the 700 watt Amana would be a lot slower and the performance would not be up to par of the 1000 watt machine, but I was wrong. I'm very happy with the Amana. It's only slightly slower and and certainly look much nicer in my vintage kitchen. As a matter of fact I found a new glass tray for it last Saturday in Rockford which was perfect because the one that came with it was chipped.
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Post# 400-5/25/2001-06:50 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: The Dependability People Made a Mistake!
MESSAGE: Anyone notice the glaring error in today's picture of the day? I never noticed this until this morning when I re-read the text of that scan.
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Post# 401-5/25/2001-06:55 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: Getting the hang off this
MESSAGE: Slowly getting used to this. And you guys are all going so fast I cant keep up with you. Doesnt help that when I am usually on line you are usually in bed!!!
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Post# 402-5/25/2001-07:01 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Getting the hang off this (Morning and Evening)
MESSAGE: Hi arrrooohhh, as you can see its just a few minutes before 7am in the middle of the United States. Out of curiosity what time is it over in Sydney right now?
You seem to be getting around the site just fine, do you have any questions on how to use Applianceville or Classicappliances.com?
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Post# 403-5/25/2001-07:03 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - Bendix Duomatic (Swamp coolers)
MESSAGE: Scott, swamp coolers only work in areas of very low humidity. They are pretty useless here except in agricultural applications. They are great for keeping green houses cooler than the outside air and very moist during the warmer months. While mechanical air conditioning uses either a compressor or an adsorption system to move heat from one side of the system to another, the evaporative cooler relies on hot dry air evaporating water from a moist medium in the large outside part. The evaporation process causes the air to give up heat because you are changing water from a liquid to a vapor and that is a change of state that absorbs heat. The heat is used to transfer moisture from the wet medium to the air. The cooler air then has more humidity than the dry outside air. It is just like in a dryer: the temperature of the load stays relatively low while there is moisture to be evaporated except, of course, in some supercharged dryers where the heat source is so great that the temperature in the chamber is high from the beginning. Once the load becomes dry, the temperature soars. This is what makes time temp auto dry controls work. At first the heater needs to be on all the time to evaporate water and while the heater is operating the timer does not move. As the load gets drier, less and less heat is called for the timer runs more because the heater is off more until finally the timer shuts everything off. While you were out there, did you go to restuarants or clubs that had the micro mist cooling systems in the outdoor area? Tom
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Post# 404-5/25/2001-07:11 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I did to the Lady Kenmore tonight (Thanks Uni)
MESSAGE: Hi Uni, no need to go to too much trouble. One of my all time fave washers are hoover - till email ruined them( The company that is, the washers are not bad!) So a hoover logo would do nicely thanx!
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Post# 405-5/25/2001-07:13 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: Hoover VS Dyson vacuum cleaners
MESSAGE: I was reading a Choice test today on Vacuums. The Hoover self propelled Windtunnel came first. The Dyson came last. Dyson now outsells Hoover. A Triumph of marketing over substance hey??? Anyway for years vacuums have been known as "Hoovers" are we going to hear of them in the future as "Dysons"? I sincerely hope not!
BTW the suction performance scores were
Hoover 75%
Dyson 27%
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Post# 406-5/25/2001-07:18 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: Picture of the day
MESSAGE: Is there going to be an archive of the Picture of the day?
I would love to print them all but I dont get to log on everyday.
Website is looking good!
I tried to search "Classic Appliances" and "washing Machines" on Altavista and Yahoo but didnt get this link? When and how does that all work?
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Post# 407-5/25/2001-07:24 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: The Dependability People Made a Mistake!
MESSAGE: Could it be the "Gyratator Rinse"? Actually, that is correct. All through the Maytag wringer washer parts manual the agitators are called Gyratators in all of the parts listings - kind of a strange name, but I've seen it in old ads too.
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Post# 408-5/25/2001-07:24 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Wisk Tablets/Cascade (Wisk tablets)
MESSAGE: Rich, I took some Wisk tablets on the FL trip since I would not have all of my laundering aids and thought it would be a good test. I used two in a standard cap WP TL and the peppermint press stuff came out great with no pretreating. I had purchased this on sale and with a coupon; otherwise, at first glance, they look pretty expensive like all the rest of the HE detergents. But,if you read the outside label of the powdered Tide HE carefully, the number of loads is based on filling the scoop to only the very first line, way down hear the bottom of the measure for medium size moderately soiled loads so a 47 load box is just that. The thing that can make the Wisk tablets a good bargain in FLs is that I get double the number of washes advertized on the box because I am only using one tablet so a 30 load box becomes 60, not that the box tells you to do this. That might not work for larger, more heavily soiled loads that many families would have. For traveling laundry queens, though, the tablets are very convenient to carry and offer great results. Talk about old Wisk and suds, or even the current liquid and suds, back in the 60s a friend of ours with a LK combo tried Wisk on her husband's shirt collars. She almost had a white out in her kitchen. Tom
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Post# 409-5/25/2001-07:28 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the day
MESSAGE: I tried to find this site on a search engine the other day by entering "classic appliances" and got this site info and link, but when I tried to use the link, I got to a heavy metal music site - a grave error! I think I was in about.com and using their search features.
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Post# 410-5/25/2001-07:29 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the day
MESSAGE: I have never liked about.com much. I might try meta crawler and google.
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Post# 411-5/25/2001-07:33 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the day (new search)
MESSAGE: Metacrawler took me strait to GE.com!!! Classic appliances? I dont really think so.
Google came up with the yahoo club
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Post# 412-5/25/2001-07:36 ||| Wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: New member
MESSAGE: Hey guys my name is Philippe... this is just unbeliveable I stumbled upon yall when I was cruising Ebay for washers and meet Jetcone. I was one of the bidders on the Apex Manuel that I belive Uni won.
I have always loved watching diffrent agitation washing machines so when it comes to a favorite its difficult.
Profile is posted.
Would someone be so kind as to send me the details of the convention in August I tried to search for 3 days thru all the posts and now asking for help
Happy washing
wrining wet
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Post# 413-5/25/2001-07:41 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Wisk Tablets/Cascade (Old Wisk, I remember when it was in cans)
MESSAGE: The ring around the collar commercials were dropped after the Women's Liberation folks tore into that ad. (Ring around the collar was not the wife's fault. Tell the husbands to wash their necks). Of course those were the days when so many men used oil based hair stuff, the greasy kids' stuff like Brylcream, which had better uses. Does anyone remember "Butch Wax?" Topical application did not have systemic effects in my case.
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Post# 414-5/25/2001-07:47 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New member (Welcome)
MESSAGE: Hi Philippe, welcome to our wonderful club.
Its always so much fun to meet another appliance/washer person! The convention is going to be held here in Minneapolis-St. Paul. The dates are Aug 17-18-19. I will be able to dig up all the details for you later but just to give you a head start here is the hotel information where everyone will be staying. Most of the activities will be held at my house (in the basement of course, except for when we're washing dishes!)
Holiday Inn - Minneapolis/Airport #2
5401 Green Valley Drive (Exit 7B off of I-494)
Bloomington MN 55437
You must say your are with the Classic Appliance Club group. Group rate is $79+tax/night
Reservation *must* be made directly with the hotel:
(952) 831-8000
Reservations must be made by August 1st. The special rate and room availability cannot be guaranteed after 8/1/2001.
Free airport shuttle. Free Mall shuttle. Indoor pool and fitness area.
If you have any problems, please try contacting me first. My contact at the hotel is Dana Johnson, Sales Rep.
Note: As I type this right now, I'm looking in the reservation system and the block has not appeared. You might want to wait until Monday to give them time to get it into the system. There are a few smoking rooms in the block, along with a few rooms available a few days before the weekend and after the weekend. If you have any special requirements or are staying longer than the 3 day weekend, be sure to call soon so your requests can be accommodated.
-ph
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Post# 415-5/25/2001-07:53 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: The Dependability People Made a Mistake!
MESSAGE: Looks like a picture was left out and things got out of synch.
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Post# 416-5/25/2001-07:58 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: New member
MESSAGE: Welcome to the club. Is yours a life time obsession? Don't be embarrassed if it is. Tom
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Post# 417-5/25/2001-08:02 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: The Dependability People Made a Mistake!
MESSAGE: I was only looking at the text - not the pictures in relation to the text - duh! How funny - to be leary of your new automatic and wanting more information about how it works and then to get this! Bring back my wringer!
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Post# 418-5/25/2001-08:04 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: New member
MESSAGE: Welcome! The yahoo club is full of information, but would take forever to wade through all those posts - were you able to get to everyone's pictures?
Welcome again and enjoy - Greg
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Post# 419-5/25/2001-08:09 ||| Wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: New member (Lifetime obsession )
MESSAGE: Yes it is and I have been called a very strange person and one analysit said I probably had this condition called asperge syndrome (viewing repetitive motions)
I am free now to wash and play as I wish LOL
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Post# 420-5/25/2001-09:17 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: The Dependability People Made a Mistake!
MESSAGE: Picts or captions, however you want to look at it in #'s 4 and 5 are backwards.
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Post# 421-5/25/2001-09:19 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: Robert.....something is strange here.....
MESSAGE: Before I was not having any problem with the links changing colors as i would view them. Now every time I refresh the page they all go to the new post color.
More gremlins??
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Post# 422-5/25/2001-09:23 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: Miss Lady K is ill again......
MESSAGE: I got buzzed again last night and Carl was wondering what that means so I fired up the Lady K and shook the tub all over but didn't get any buzzing sound. How strange and very depressing. Pulled her out from the wall and removed the OOB switch and it was melted!!! I guess I will have to hunt one down today. Life would not be the same without the awful sound of the buzzer.
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Post# 423-5/25/2001-09:35 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Robert.....something is strange here.....
MESSAGE: Hi Jason, I was experimenting with changing the program code to see if I can get those darn links to stay red once they have changed to red. No luck so far, but I will restore the code back to the way it was over the weekend.
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Post# 424-5/25/2001-09:36 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Miss Lady K is ill again...... (melted???)
MESSAGE: Jason, what do you mean by the Off Balance Buzzer switch was melted? That sounds like it could be something more serious in the electrical system.
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Post# 425-5/25/2001-09:38 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Robert.....something is strange here.....
MESSAGE: Of course this is not happening to me which only makes all of this even more challenging. When I hit reload, they stay red, the only time they all change back to blue is when I forget to log-in.
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Post# 426-5/25/2001-09:42 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: Robert.....something is strange here..... (sometimes there are just gremlins in the server )
MESSAGE: I was a chef for 25 years and now do distance educational design. My experience has been you can drive yourself nuts trying to get it perfect LOL
you just have to drive the evil demons out of the system
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Post# 427-5/25/2001-09:46 ||| RobGwisdala (Troy Ohio 45373)
SUBJECT: Robert's 1957 Lady Kenmore.
MESSAGE: Hi Robert,
Are you going to convert your 1957 Lady Kenmore to a "large capacity" washer?
18# capacity washers let you handle big and bulky loads with ease.
Rob
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Post# 428-5/25/2001-09:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Robert's 1957 Lady Kenmore. (NEVER-EVER)
MESSAGE: Never, ever. Here's why Rob. Some machines are more important than others to keep in their original state. This is the very 1st Lady Kenmore, taking her and converting her to something more modern would completely ruin her. I have no need for a large capacity machine since I have 18 hooked up, I can get more wash in just two Unimatics than any one modern large capacity machine. For the big stuff, like comforters, I can use the Whirlpool Combo with it's HUGE drum.
I converted my 1959 Sunny Yellow Maytag, because its not anything special like the '57 Lady.
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Post# 429-5/25/2001-10:08 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: New Wallpapers
MESSAGE: Thanks for the great new wallpapers, Robert!!! I'll withhold my wallpaper suggestions for a while... What great fun this all is!
-ph
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Post# 430-5/25/2001-10:19 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: If I had Uni's set up
MESSAGE: If I had uni's set up I would never leave the house hell I thought I was in heaven with the easy spinner the maytag gyrator and the 1-18 frigidaire all going at once
Philippe
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Post# 431-5/25/2001-10:21 ||| Hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Miss Lady K is ill again...... (melted???)
MESSAGE: Yup. She melted. Right where the red wire connects to the switch. Now I know what that burning smell was. I think what happened is the red wire grounded out againt the cabinet causing the switch to melt. I'll run by the store and pick up a new one on my way to Home Depot.
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Post# 432-5/25/2001-10:24 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New Wallpapers (why withold)
MESSAGE: Speak now or forever hold your piece Peter (at least for a little bit). I'm going to put more work into this thing this coming weekend, but after that I need to get onto restoring the 1952 Whirlpool. I want to have that machine running for the convention, then I need to put down a new basement floor. So the web site will get less of my attention during those MAJOR projects.
By the way, if those with scanners want something for a logo, scan it and email it to me at webmaster@classicappliances.com.
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Post# 433-5/25/2001-11:44 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New member (have my hotel reservaitons)
MESSAGE: Just done did do mine. I'm staying through Mon. morning. Robert, I thought the Frigidaire portable was in the basement--being able to watch the "forbidden" cycle LOL.
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Post# 434-5/25/2001-11:45 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: New member (Lifetime obsession )
MESSAGE: Wringing wet, we have had discussions about what we call ass burger's syndrome and even thought of financing our museum as a treatment and research center for this. My shrink told my parents that if I had been a real male, I would have been interested in automobiles and engines instead of appliances. Well, f*** you very much Dr.
Glad to have you on board. This is every bit as wonderful an experience as the first time in my life I found other people who are like I am. Be sure to look at pictures of our collections on the Yahoo site. I think you are going to have lots of fun here. Tom
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Post# 435-5/25/2001-11:55 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Miss Lady K is ill again......
MESSAGE: Hon, did that thing melt down when you demonstrated it for me over the phone? Do you think that our unbalanced condition as well as your jerking the tub to trip the switch overloaded the circuitry? Sort of like when Martha Mitchell was calling from the china fixture? (unloading while unloading) Not that you are old enough to remember that. Ask Susan about her. That ought to be good for a healthy diatribe. TT
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Post# 436-5/25/2001-11:56 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: New member (Lifetime obsession )
MESSAGE: Tom, Does that mean I am only half real male? I can sling a wrench and fix a vehicle just as good as any 'real male', maybe even better. LOL
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Post# 437-5/25/2001-12:05 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Miss Lady K is ill again......
MESSAGE: I don't think our unbalanced condition had anything to do with it. If it did I am sure my switch would have tripped long before the washers melted and you would have heard my buzzing for miles.
Remember I kept smelling that hot/overheating stench about 2 months ago? I guess it was the switch. It had been acting up for about a week. Since I changed the motor pulley to the larger size it really gets going and if the load is not balanced just right the machine goes everywhere. A few times it sounded like a 10 car pile-up and I wondered why the buzzer didn't go off. Now I know.
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Post# 438-5/25/2001-12:25 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: New member
MESSAGE: Philippe, welcome to the club. It's nice to have a new member again.
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Post# 439-5/25/2001-12:28 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Robert.....something is strange here.....
MESSAGE: And also when you have a look at a profile and then go back to the messages. All blue again.
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Post# 440-5/25/2001-12:35 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Robert.....something is strange here.....
MESSAGE: At least sometimes.....
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Post# 441-5/25/2001-12:49 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New member (have my hotel reservaitons)
MESSAGE: Yes appnut, you're right, the Frigidaire D&M see-thru lid dishwasher is in the basement. Geeees, can't slip anything by you guys can I?
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Post# 442-5/25/2001-12:56 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Robert.....something is strange here.....
MESSAGE: That's all part of the same issue Louis. It seems to be related to the fact that blue frame (with menu choices) on top and the pink frame (with the message indexes) are not talking to each other. Once you click on anything in the upper blue frame it forgets what you just click on in the pink frame. More work to come on this issue, but we'll live with it for now, since its not really a "show stopper".
For those who want to try, experiement with hitting refresh before you click on anything in the blue frame, if you've selected messages in the Pink frame.
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Post# 443-5/25/2001-13:04 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: How Does the Picture of the Day Work?
MESSAGE: I was asked by a few members what happens if they miss the picture of the day, is it gone forever? Yes and no is my answer to that question.
Let me explain how I created this feature to work:
There will be about 150 pictures loaded in the system for the picture of the day (42 are uploaded as of last night), each picture is assigned a it's very own number from 1 to 150.
At 2am Central Time the system "spins it's roulette wheel and picks a number from 1 to 150. What ever number the roulette ball lands in becomes the new picture of the day. The reason I call it a roulette wheel is because this number is truly random, any number can come up at any time. Eventually we will see pictures come up again, but as chance has it, it probably wont be for a while.
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Post# 444-5/25/2001-13:57 ||| jaxcubb (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: New member (RE: New member (Lifetime obsession ))
MESSAGE: Yeah, my parents thought I was alittle weird being interested in how appliances work. When I was a toddler, my mom would hold me up over our Kenmore washer, so I could watch the agitator go back and forth. I was always facinated with our neighbors top loading Kenmore dishwasher with the roto-rack. (That is, until we got one, and it turned out to be one of my chores to clear the dinner dishes 'grin').
I think it's cool to meet other people, who like me, share the same interests!
Mike
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Post# 445-5/25/2001-14:19 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Help with the search engines
MESSAGE: In order to submit our site to the search engines I need ideas from you guys about how to answer the following two questions:
1st
Keywords that will cause the site to be hit. You can use the same keyword or key-phrase up to 7 times to mark its relevance (e.g., washing machine we would put seven times, refrigerator maybe twice, etc.)
Note: Keywords Must-- (words or phrases separated by commas)
Maximum 1,000 characters (not 1000 words, but 1000 characters!), do not repeat any keyword or key-phrase more than 7 times.
2nd
Description: (no HTML tags please)
A paragraph of less than 200 characters that describes our site. Be sure to include unique key words and phrases in here too.
We'll there you have it guys, put on your thinking caps and lets see what we can come up with as a collective group.
Thanks for everyone's assistance.
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Post# 446-5/25/2001-14:53 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: New member
MESSAGE: Welcome Phillipe! We don't talk much about Assbergers Syndrome here. We just enjoy the company and the machines!
-ph
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Post# 447-5/25/2001-14:55 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New member (RE: New member (Lifetime obsession ))
MESSAGE: My story began when my step-grandmother held me up to see her 1950's Whirlpool. I was a toddler, circa 1965 I figure it was. Something "clicked," and here I am.
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Post# 448-5/25/2001-14:55 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Robert.....something is strange here..... (red? what red?)
MESSAGE: On my PC, unread posts are in blue, and change to green after they are read. The poster's name is in red.
Or is this a play on colors and verb tenses (red, read, read)?
-ph
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Post# 449-5/25/2001-14:58 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: New Wallpapers (poor, overworked webmaster!)
MESSAGE: Webmaster! I like that! The images going thru my brain!
I was going to ask for the Jet Action agitator logo from the 65-69 Rollermatic control panel...
-ph
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Post# 450-5/25/2001-15:02 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: New member (how can that be?)
MESSAGE: Louis... "a new member again"??? If you're having him again, how can he be new? LOL!
-ph
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Post# 451-5/25/2001-15:08 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Help with the search engines
MESSAGE: Hi Robert,
For our key words/phrases, I would say the use of "Vintage" and "Antique" along with "Appliances," "Washers," "Washing Machine," "Dryer," "Refrigerator," "Dishwasher," etc. I remember when I was looking for any sites over a year ago, there was nothing, all I got was the site for the "Old Appliance Club" (which is about as useless as spats on a hog). If Brooklyn Robert hadn't clued me in, I would have never found the yahoo site.
For our statement, why not use your paragraph from the home page?
Todd
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Post# 452-5/25/2001-15:10 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: Is it possible to set up a cookie so it remembers you're logged in?
MESSAGE: Robert,
Would it possible to set up the log-in screen so you have the option to be remembered the next time you log on to the site? Like the way the Yahoo! site was set up?
Todd
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Post# 453-5/25/2001-15:11 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: '72 Kenmore set
MESSAGE: ooohhhhh Jasooooon!!!
New today is a '72 Kenmore set. Kind neat, as it has a rectangular window in the control panel that the dial is underneat, so you can watch the timer increment thru the window. The timer knob is to the right of the window, and the options are on the left. This is a wash-by-alphabet machine. Gold Vari-Flex with wings, detergent dispenser on the right top of the machine, dual bleach and softener dispenser under the lid. Full console florescent light. Options include the cold water selector, soak only/soak and wash, and 2nd rinse. Has some console wear around the cycle knob. Matching dryer, drum shows extensive use. I'll probably take the tops and control panels, unless someone wants both machines.
Also today was a keyboard Kenmore with color-coded keys. Very badly worn, so that's a goner...
-ph
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Post# 454-5/25/2001-15:15 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Special Delivery
MESSAGE: Robert,
Have you rec'd the special delivery from Boston yet? What's the status of that transfer?
-ph
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Post# 455-5/25/2001-15:27 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: How Does the Picture of the Day Work?
MESSAGE: Well, for those of us traveling almost all day Friday of the convention, we'll have to cath the POTD when you arrive at your house Robert.
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Post# 456-5/25/2001-15:33 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Robert.....something is strange here..... (red? what red?)
MESSAGE: Peter, it has something to do with your settings--pertaining to read & unread links.
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Post# 457-5/25/2001-15:35 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Is it possible to set up a cookie so it remembers you're logged in?
MESSAGE: Todd, if it's an impossiblity, then I guess that's the way the cookie crumbles.
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Post# 458-5/25/2001-15:48 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: How Does the Picture of the Day Work?
MESSAGE: There is a way to get all the POTDs, but I'll never tell because that would ruin everybody's an-ti-ci-pation in seeing what comes up new each day.
(I'm so bad . . . )
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Post# 459-5/25/2001-16:04 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: How Does the Picture of the Day Work?
MESSAGE: HA! Not after this upcoming weekends' code changes and security update as per conversation with technical support on that little matter-- you silly hacker you LOL.
Besides that ruins all the fun and ancticipation.
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Post# 460-5/25/2001-16:05 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Is it possible to set up a cookie so it remembers you're logged in?
MESSAGE: Todd See post #313. I cannot for the life of me get the system to keep the cookie once you leave Applianceville, I've spent hours trying. Any help with this would be appreciated.
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Post# 461-5/25/2001-16:06 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Is it possible to set up a cookie so it remembers you're logged in?
MESSAGE: HA! LOL.....you're killin' me! :)
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Post# 462-5/25/2001-16:07 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Special Delivery (Pulsamatic Trade)
MESSAGE: I'm going to prepare the '49 for transfer this weekend, Jon said he was going to do the same next week.
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Post# 463-5/25/2001-16:11 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (I'm confused)
MESSAGE: Uumm, Peter? Did you bring this set home? I'm confuse, is it something you saw or are you washing in it as we speak?
Did your new camera arrive yet, we all eagerly awaiting your pictures Peter!
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Post# 464-5/25/2001-16:14 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: New member (how can that be?)
MESSAGE: I think I'll wear my sharpest stilettos to the convention.....
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Post# 465-5/25/2001-16:26 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - Bendix Duomatic (Swamp coolers)
MESSAGE: Hi Tom, thanks for that explanation. It hence make sense tht they are so popular in hot but dry Arizona. No, I didn't experience one of those micro mist devices, but when I was there in early March it really would not have been necessary. Next time I go down it will be hotter so maybe I'll experience it then! Have a good weekend, Scott
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Post# 466-5/25/2001-16:39 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set
MESSAGE: I know exactly the machine you're speaking of Peter, that is one of my favorite Sears machines.
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Post# 467-5/25/2001-16:41 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Is it possible to set up a cookie so it remembers you're logged in?
MESSAGE: I'm not sure if I'm special or what, but I have not had this issue with losing my login, either at home or at work.
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Post# 468-5/25/2001-17:45 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set
MESSAGE: Hi Peter,
If you really don't want the machines I would love the set!!!
That is only if you are willing to part with them. I'm sure I can find room here somewhere. Lets see, we really don't need a dining room......
All joking aside Peter, I would love the set.
Jason
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Post# 469-5/25/2001-17:50 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Is it possible to set up a cookie so it remembers you're logged in?
MESSAGE: Thats because you are the QEOM!! I am only the HQOTS. I guess that might have something to do with it.
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Post# 470-5/25/2001-17:54 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Miss Lady K is ill again...... (Were buzzing again!!)
MESSAGE: It took me three hours but I got an OOB switch!! Now I'm happy! This one is the new design with the terminals on one side. The other one was original with a terminal on each side and when the baseplate would hit the switch it would also make contact with the red wire causing a short.
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Post# 471-5/25/2001-18:01 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Is it possible to set up a cookie so it remembers you're logged in?
MESSAGE: ...guess so! LOLOLOL
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Post# 472-5/25/2001-18:20 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Is it possible to set up a cookie so it remembers you're logged in? (wait a minute)
MESSAGE: wait a minute??? Don't you get buzzed Scott if you try to post a message without logging in when you first launch your browser and come into applianceville. If not then how come you were the first to see the new buzzer cartoon?
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Post# 473-5/25/2001-18:27 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Is it possible to set up a cookie so it remembers you're logged in? (wait a minute)
MESSAGE: Robert, that was because I had not logged in at all yet for that day. When that happens, I do indeed get buzzed, and sometimes will get buzzed after a period of several hours or more or something, but I do not have to re-log in every time I leave and return to the site as some folks are reporting.
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Post# 474-5/25/2001-18:35 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Is it possible to set up a cookie so it remembers you're logged in? (that's what I thought)
MESSAGE: Right Scott, but the guys are referring to having your log-in remembered forever so you never have to log in on your own computer.
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Post# 475-5/25/2001-20:11 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Is it possible to set up a cookie so it remembers you're logged in? (that's what I thought)
MESSAGE: Thats right. I think there is a cookie monster in the program somewhere that is eating all of our cookies.
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Post# 476-5/25/2001-20:29 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Miss Lady K is ill again...... (Were buzzing again!!)
MESSAGE: Jason, I'm so glad you got "switched". Now you'll never be OOB again, although I'm sure some people have made some comments through the years LOL.
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Post# 477-5/25/2001-20:32 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Is it possible to set up a cookie so it remembers you're logged in? (that's what I thought)
MESSAGE: Well, Robert, you need to put a Flair in your html coding so that we'll have plenty of cookies to go around.
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Post# 478-5/25/2001-20:33 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Is it possible to set up a cookie so it remembers you're logged in? (that's what I thought)
MESSAGE: And don't forget to take a brak and have a cup of java.
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Post# 479-5/25/2001-21:04 ||| kc4ab (limaburg ky)
SUBJECT: i forget what i was going to say?
MESSAGE: hi.after looking at the profiles i think i am the oldest member
now i know scottdamit calls me OLD MAN all the time.
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Post# 480-5/25/2001-21:10 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: i forget what i was going to say?
MESSAGE: Congratulations Jeff, but don't get too used to it because the way the membership roster is growing, you might not hold that title for long!
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Post# 481-5/25/2001-21:18 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Brand New Features
MESSAGE: OK I have three brand new features to the web site to tell you guys about:
#1, as per Greg's (Gansky1) and a few others request, starting with Post #473 a clickable link will now be added to the box that shows you the reply'd to message, so you can follow a message thread back to its very beginning without having to find the Post # in the Pink Index list. Since this is a new feature, posts before 472 will not be able to have these installed. But look on the bright side, when we're at Post #22,000 we'll be able to look back and see the evolution of Applianceville.
#2 In the Profile Secion, the list has now been given numbers so it's easy to see how many members we currently have.
#3 Also added from a request from Greg (I think)-- You can now add your favorite internet link to your profile. To update it, click on Edit-My-Profile, the fields are located at the bottom of the purple edit-profile page.
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Post# 482-5/25/2001-21:37 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: i forget what i was going to say?
MESSAGE: Jeff, I think there's a guy in las vegas, from the yahoo site, that's your age or there abouts. No, you're not old. I like to ponder the fact of all the stuff you've seen over the last 30 plus years with appliances. Hell, with so many in their 30s, I feel old at 47.
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Post# 483-5/25/2001-21:40 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Brand New Features
MESSAGE: hoorey!!! you can now click on the old post number as a link and look back & keep looking back, I'm assuming.
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Post# 484-5/25/2001-21:50 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: Another logo suggestion
MESSAGE: Robert, am I having old-timers moments, but wasn't there (I think I remember seeing on a 1964 or 1965 Kenmore 500, a Sears Kenmore Logo that had Sears in a fancy/wierd font in the midst of a black circle???
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Post# 485-5/25/2001-21:53 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Another logo suggestion (Another question)
MESSAGE: When was the period that Maytag had that funky M (in a circle) kinda like the M in Motorola, that was a "badge" on the fron of their washers? How that logo, if it's period appropriate too?
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Post# 486-5/25/2001-01:29 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Brand New Features
MESSAGE: All great improvements - amazing how much goes into one web site.
Eternal thanks and praise for our Webmaster!!
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Post# 487-5/26/2001-03:05 ||| forAloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Brand New Features
MESSAGE: Wonderful new features Robert, this is getting better and better. Louis
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Post# 488-5/26/2001-09:31 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT: RE: Hoover VS Dyson vacuum cleaners
MESSAGE: I love my Hoover windtunnel! I didnt know Dyson even made vacuumes.
SD
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Post# 489-5/26/2001-09:49 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT: Welcome
MESSAGE: Welcome to the club Phillipe
SD
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Post# 490-5/26/2001-09:49 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (let me set your mind at ease)
MESSAGE: No, the '72 set is across town. I have a 62 KM dryer and the '78(?) LK dryer for Steve, and the '63 LK set. This '72 set is something new that I haven't gotten yet (I'm still debating whether to get it or not).
The camera is charging up, I just read the user's manual, and the software is loaded. Let's see how good I get at this...
-ph
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Post# 491-5/26/2001-09:52 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (Not the big window)
MESSAGE: Scott,
This is not like the dryer that you MSP guys saw at an estate sale a month or two ago. If it was, I probably wouldn't be having anxiety over taking them home or not! This one is a bit more "Kenmoresque" - neat looking well within the KM tradition. Anyone have the 72 catalog with posting abilities?
-ph
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Post# 492-5/26/2001-09:54 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (a set for HQOTS)
MESSAGE: Jason,
Then you got them. I hope to have pics of them sometime today and will post them to Yahoo today or tomorrow...
-ph
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Post# 493-5/26/2001-10:01 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Pearl is back!?!?
MESSAGE: WH Pearl is back... I hope the random pic program isn't like a Sony carousel CD player that always seems to play the same songs when in random mode...
-ph
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Post# 494-5/26/2001-10:08 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Pearl is back!?!?
MESSAGE: Perhaps code should be added to prevent a POTD from repeating until they have all been seen.
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Post# 495-5/26/2001-10:24 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (a set for HQOTS)
MESSAGE: Thank you Peter!!!!!!!!!!
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Post# 496-5/26/2001-14:01 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (Not the big window)
MESSAGE: Peter, is this the styling of the '72s' control panels?
LINK: http://ib.yimg.com/b/de3b51ee/h/0/b32594a2/North+Side+House+Kenmore+Dryer.jpg
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Post# 497-5/26/2001-14:08 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (Not the big window)
MESSAGE: Anyway, this was the one I was talking about. I think I like this style because the timer arrangement reminds me of my great aunt Harriet's RCA Whirlpool.
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Post# 498-5/26/2001-18:36 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (Access forbidden from external hosts.)
MESSAGE: That's the message I get from your link - was this in Yahoo photos?
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Post# 499-5/26/2001-18:51 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (Access forbidden from external hosts.)
MESSAGE: yes...drive me nuts when it does that. It will work if you try a few times, or copy the link out of the dead window and put it in another one. When I first put it in I was working fine.
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Post# 500-5/26/2001-19:02 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (Access forbidden from external hosts.)
MESSAGE: It did work - it tried it in explorer and netscape and got the same thing several times. Once I opened a new window, it worked the second re-load.
I love that KM style - a friend of our family had a set like this that they took out of a rental property. He was fixing something on the washer and was testing it in the garage, another fond washer memory from childhood.
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Post# 501-5/26/2001-19:32 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Pearl is back!?!? (It’s a coincidence)
MESSAGE: I checked out the Picture of the Day program and it ran just fine, although I completely re-wrote it last night so it wont show off the secret web location of all the pictures. Looks like the roulette ball landed in Perl’s house again. The best way to prevent this is for me to add a lot more pictures, only 55 are up so far. Now that they are in, shall we say, a secret place, I will upload another 100 or so!
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Post# 502-5/26/2001-19:33 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Pearl is back!?!? (maybe)
MESSAGE: but its not a high priority.
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Post# 503-5/26/2001-19:48 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (Access still forbidden)
MESSAGE: IIIII'mmmmm still gett access denied.
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Post# 504-5/26/2001-19:52 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (Access still forbidden)
MESSAGE: Did you try the trick of copying the link into another window? I don't know why this happens, but it worked for Greg and me. when I first posted this link it was working fine. I've had this happen before when I've tried to show pictures to friends, they get restricted area and this n that even though they're public albums.
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Post# 505-5/26/2001-19:54 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (Access still forbidden)
MESSAGE: Let's see if this one works any better.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/multimatic850?e&.intl=us&.flabel=fld19&.from=d&.pindex=8&start=1&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/multimatic850%3fd%26.flabel=fld19%26.intl=us%26.src=ph
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Post# 506-5/26/2001-20:07 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (I think what happened is...)
MESSAGE: I think when I posted the picture the first time, I clicked on it and there was just the picture, and I took that link. It probably doesn't accept that one since it isn't part of the album or have the advertising. The new one takes you to the location in the album where the pic resides, then you can look at it, click on it, navigate the rest of the album, or whatever.
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Post# 507-5/26/2001-20:24 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (Access still forbidden)
MESSAGE: Yes, I saw the coppertone dryer. Is this what I'm supposed to see, not a Sear catalogue ad? K. Oh, & BTW, thank you. We mustn't forget our manners here.
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Post# 508-5/26/2001-20:27 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (Access still forbidden)
MESSAGE: Yes, that's what you're supposed to see. I want to find out from Peter if this is the style of washer and dryer he found, and you're welcome! :)
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Post# 509-5/26/2001-21:04 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (Access still forbidden)
MESSAGE: Scott, if you're still there, why don't you get on Messenger?
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Post# 510-5/26/2001-21:59 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (close, but no cupcake)
MESSAGE: Good evening all... I got the pics in the laptop, but it's 11pm and I've got to get some sleep...
The window is on the left, the knob on the right... But the (good) link you posted is the one that I referred to when I said it's kinda like the one you saw.
OK, I just talked my self into trying to post the pic... Back in a few...
-ph
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Post# 511-5/26/2001-22:03 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (close, but no cupcake)
MESSAGE: Great! I still know which one you mean then. The one you're talking about is slightly later than the one in the link picture.
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Post# 512-5/26/2001-22:16 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (let's see if this works)
MESSAGE: Pictures for everyone!
-ph
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/peterh770
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Post# 513-5/26/2001-22:24 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (let's see if this works)
MESSAGE: Thanks Peter!!! I'll be there tomorrow. Ok, maybe not tomorrow....Hows next month?
What kind of shape are tops and cabinets in? Any chips or major rust?
Jason
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Post# 514-5/26/2001-22:24 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (let's try this link too)
MESSAGE: just to see if you get there quicker...
Good night, all...
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/vwp?.dir=/Yahoo!+Photo+Album&.src=ph&.dnm=72+Kenmore+washer.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/lst%3f%26.dir=/Yahoo!%2bPhoto%2bAlbum%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 515-5/26/2001-22:27 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (condition)
MESSAGE: Jason... I hope your monitor is better than my laptop... If it is, you can see the wear in the design around the knobs and along the bottom of the console. Do you want the whole machine or just the console?
-ph
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Post# 516-5/26/2001-22:28 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (condition 2)
MESSAGE: The cabinets are pretty good, the side of course show some wear where they were rubbing against something. Seems to me the tops are in the famously good Kenmore condition.
-ph
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Post# 517-5/26/2001-22:32 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (wings)
MESSAGE: can you see also the little extension wings on the top of the main Vari-Flex vanes? Seems to me that the white VF agitators don't have those extra wings...
-ph
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Post# 518-5/26/2001-22:32 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (condition)
MESSAGE: Hi Peter,
I would love to have the entire machines. Do you know if there is anytihng wrong with them? Not that it really matters any because you know they will be reworked and brought back to the way they should be amd put back into use.
Jason
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Post# 519-5/26/2001-22:34 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (wings)
MESSAGE: Your right. The white ones do not have the wings. How come??
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Post# 520-5/26/2001-22:35 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (they be yours)
MESSAGE: I'll get them both and they be yours... I got to the store too late and they had already closed, and I don't think they are open Sunday or Monday... Today was a terrible appliance hunting day...
You planing on a GA trip? Let me know early so I can plan...
-ph
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Post# 521-5/26/2001-22:37 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (flightless Kenmores)
MESSAGE: Maybe they were added in later productions? The VF is bulky enough, it should have given great washing action without them. I bet Tom knows...
-ph
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Post# 522-5/26/2001-22:37 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (they be yours)
MESSAGE: Those are great machines, and I knew they were the ones I thought once you told me they weren't the ones like the coppertone one I showed. That is one of, if not the last, of the "automatic alphabet" machines, and I love the styling!
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Post# 523-5/26/2001-23:04 ||| Eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (U.S. Kenmore vs Canadian)
MESSAGE: Hi Peter, I was wondering about the Kenmore's in the U.S. Did Sears ever use any other manufacturer other than WP? Canadian Kenmore's were generally made by Inglis (WP design) but even included some GE's and even some WCI units. Regardless, I never saw a flex vane in any of our older KM's.
Eddy
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Post# 524-5/26/2001-23:12 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (U.S. Kenmore vs Canadian)
MESSAGE: Eddy, as long as I can remember, strictly Whirlpool here in the states.
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Post# 525-5/26/2001-23:23 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (they be yours)
MESSAGE: Yup! I have been planning a trip up there for a while. Just did not know when. It will probablly only be a weekend trip maybe coming in on a Friday. Most likely the middle of next month if that is ok with you.
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Post# 526-5/26/2001-00:03 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (let's try this link too)
MESSAGE: Very cool, Peter. I remember that Kenmore design.
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Post# 527-5/26/2001-01:02 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (let's see if this works)
MESSAGE: Peter, thanks for the pictures, quite a pro already. I hadn't seen such a set before, are they rare? The timer almost looks like a radio. BTW, I like the house. So many trees around it, WOW. Louis
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Post# 528-5/27/2001-04:29 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: POTD
MESSAGE: There appears to be a bug in the new code.
I got the message about being the first person to see the new selection for the day, but the image was broken. The image properties said it was -1 bytes and of very small dimensions (20-something x 20-something pixels).
When I went back and forward for the 2nd viewing of the POTD, the proper image appeared.
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Post# 529-5/27/2001-08:20 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (thanks Peter)
MESSAGE: Congrats on your first Pictures, the Kenmore is really cool. And your house is really cute! Can't wait to see more.
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Post# 530-5/27/2001-08:22 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD (not bug, but)
MESSAGE: Might be a blip in the 2am file copy on the server. When I looked at the file it seemed corrupted, so I canged the picture of the day to a new picture, this one seems fine. I'll keep a close watch on it to make sure this new code for the POTD is working properly.
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Post# 531-5/27/2001-08:32 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD (model year?)
MESSAGE: Robert: What's the model year on that Hotpoint set?
-ph
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Post# 532-5/27/2001-08:40 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (U.S. Kenmore vs Canadian)
MESSAGE: Eddy!
We all know about "Frigmore" FL's, but the standard washers with the console have always been Whirlpool. The slimline stacked combo unit they used to sell were WP, but I think have switched to WCI. The fullsize stacked combo has always been WCI. They also have a little rollaround portable that I remember seeing "Made in France" on, but now show made somewhere else. It has a little 3 vane Maytag style agitator and the suspension allows you to really move the tub around super easy. And of course, there is the Kenamore'...
Does anyone know about KM dryers? Some have the in/out thru the back classic WP airflow, but some have the thru the drum (axial) airflow. They look kinda Amana-ish or Maytag Performa/Nortagish to me, but are probably WP nonetheless...
-ph
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Post# 533-5/27/2001-08:43 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (GA pick-up)
MESSAGE: That will work. We'll coordinate with Steve. My entrepreneurial endevors keep me kinda bound here at the 'mat, so I'll need his help to keep you busy! Not to mention that you must see his 1-18 farm! I think he has 43 of them now! LOL!!!
-ph
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Post# 534-5/27/2001-08:52 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (KM rarities)
MESSAGE: Louis,
Nearly all KM's are rare just because their style varied so much from model to model from year to year. Let's say that if KM had a tower top design, there'd be only one model of it and all the other models that year would be different. The thing about Atlanta it seems like I find alot of the upper end to TOL models. The frequency with which they appear around here make me think that the '79 Frigidaire WCI push button machine is right around the corner!
-ph
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Post# 535-5/27/2001-08:53 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD (not bug, but)
MESSAGE: 1957
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Post# 536-5/27/2001-08:54 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (the house)
MESSAGE: Thanks, Robert, but my house is a train wreck!!! Having 11 washers and 5 dryers around isn't helping matters either! I need 36 hour days with 8 days a week...
-ph
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Post# 537-5/27/2001-08:55 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: We'll of course being a holiday weekend, there were only 3 sales, and only one of them had anything to photograph. But there was a 1968 Kenmore washer and dryer set, at this sale, that a few of you guys would just die for!
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/estatesale3/lst?.dir=/Estate+Sale+Saturday+May+25+2001&.view=t
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Post# 538-5/27/2001-08:55 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (the house)
MESSAGE: Tell me about it!
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Post# 539-5/27/2001-09:06 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (see what I mean about KM?)
MESSAGE: Robert,
Thanks for the pics. That washer and dryer were about mint, weren't they? Neat, neat machines!
I wonder if these were before or after the Model 70's I grew up with. We bought them in 1968, but maybe they were the model year before or after?
-ph
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Post# 540-5/27/2001-09:12 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (abuse case?)
MESSAGE: This model had suds-saver?
Rinses in warm usually?
The home owner runs the PP cycle on low water level? OUCH!!!
-ph
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Post# 541-5/27/2001-09:18 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (let's see if this works)
MESSAGE: Great job Peter! I love both the sets - would you or someone bring the Vari-Flex agitator to the convention so we can try it? I've tried most of the other KM agitators except that one. It's a beautiful set for your collection Jason!
I didn't realize you had a matchine TOL 1-18 set, Peter, they are beautiful too. I have a bunch of parts for those dryers if you ever need anything I'll check the inventory!
Your house is great too - amidst all those trees - very peaceful looking. Hope your weekend hunting is going well, enjoy that new camera!
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Post# 542-5/27/2001-09:27 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (the house)
MESSAGE: I still can't park in the garage!
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Post# 543-5/27/2001-09:32 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: bringing back the memories
MESSAGE: The Kenmores Set you have displayed peter is one that I use to use at a nursing home worked for years. the WCI 1-18 makes me long for the one I used to have. I went out yesterday hunting in charleston area and only found a a lady kenmore wringer with the visamatic rollers .. and it has the same agitator as the kenmore set I beilive.
I am looking for flights to MI for the convention and will have to get some drugs from my doctor so I don't have a seizure when I see uni's collection
Philippe
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Post# 544-5/27/2001-09:55 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (home stuff)
MESSAGE: Thanks, Greg! I think maybe Scott or Robert could stir up a VF for us at convention, or maybe Tom or Jason could pre-ship one up to Robert by then!
The DCIE is intact, but it needs a new lint screen guard as the one in there is badly warped and would probably suck socks, hankies and thongs into the lint screen. The WCI is missing the outer cabinet. That was the one thrown from the truck. If you look closely, you'll see some of the dents along the top of the console. I have the top and the innards of that machine, and will probably transplant them into/onto the white WC-6G cabinet. Maybe tomorrow!
In my carport are the CI set, the 63 LK set, 3 WC-6's, 1 WCD, '54 GE, '79 LK, mid-70's GE. My car fits in only half way!
-ph
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Post# 545-5/27/2001-09:57 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: bringing back the memories
MESSAGE: Phil... Don't go to MI!!! Go to MN!!!
-ph
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Post# 546-5/27/2001-10:10 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set (home stuff)
MESSAGE: I have the screen itself, but not the guard - with your luck, you'll have one in no time. Don't use this until you get it replaced - you'll need those thongs for Saturday nights and of course, the hankies to wave at church on Sunday mornings!!
It's a beautiful day here and I've got the line full of sheets. I'm off to paint in the new laundry room - I have all the stuff I need, except more hours in the day! Enjoy the weekend!
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Post# 547-5/27/2001-10:38 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Robert, I'm dead for that Kenmore set. A buddy from college, his mom had the washer--she abused it constantly--overloaded way to much all the time. By 1974 when I was around, the agitator was having difficulty staing engaged all the time. She'd have to go monkey with the machine. Yes, the owner committed a cardinal sin--PP on low, but I used to do the same thing wheen I had the chance, loved having the cool down fill & drain twice or more during those two minutes!!! The dryer impressed me, first time I'd ever seen a Kenmore more Whirlpoolish--both a PP & Normal auto cycle. I'd always seen just one auto/all-fabric cycle. Yes peter, I believe on auto, rinses were warm for both the Normal & Delicate cycles. Only pp had cold as the default rinse. I can't remember if that dryer was fabric master or electronic sensored dry.
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Post# 548-5/27/2001-10:39 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Robert, I'm dead for that Kenmore set. A buddy from college, his mom had the washer--she abused it constantly--overloaded way to much all the time. By 1974 when I was around, the agitator was having difficulty staing engaged all the time. She'd have to go monkey with the machine. Yes, the owner committed a cardinal sin--PP on low, but I used to do the same thing wheen I had the chance, loved having the cool down fill & drain twice or more during those two minutes!!! The dryer impressed me, first time I'd ever seen a Kenmore more Whirlpoolish--both a PP & Normal auto cycle. I'd always seen just one auto/all-fabric cycle. Yes peter, I believe on auto, rinses were warm for both the Normal & Delicate cycles. Only pp had cold as the default rinse. I can't remember if that dryer was fabric master or electronic sensored dry.
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Post# 549-5/27/2001-10:41 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: And nother cardinal sin was putting the range & fridge right next to each other-but that was quite common back then. The range looked familiar, but I couldn't place the brand. Wash the shelf above actually a warming shelf too? I wonder what "modern" dishwassher was there replacing the original coppertone one. Probably a kenmore.
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Post# 550-5/27/2001-11:25 ||| forAloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (see what I mean about KM?)
MESSAGE: It looks like the control panel of the washer is higher than the one of the dryer. Is that so? There are indeed many Kenmore models. This set is another model I haven't come across browsing all the US from behind my desk. I wonder what the trip to the convention will bring.
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Post# 551-5/27/2001-11:31 ||| forAloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (abuse case?)
MESSAGE: I'm not sure, but I think the timer is in the colored cottons section. Ofcourse if there has been a crowd of appliance viewers the timer has probably been reset a few times. When I had a second look at the set I saw that the controls of the dryer are different from the controls of the washer. Is this a matching set?
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Post# 552-5/27/2001-11:36 ||| forAloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: bringing back the memories (seizure)
MESSAGE: Philippe, I think we should ask Uni to have some tranquillizers and smelling salt at hand for the light cases and an ambulance for a possible crisis. Louis
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Post# 553-5/27/2001-12:52 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (see what I mean about KM?)
MESSAGE: Luigi, yes this is a matched stet. Yes, I noticed the higher wash control panel enclosure box than the dryer. And no, the washer control dial (cycle dial) is in an "off" position. It's just finished a Permanent Press cycle.
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Post# 554-5/27/2001-13:00 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (abuse case?)
MESSAGE: Louis, you're seeing an optical illusion. I imagine the "pointer" for the dial has faded over time. It's probably obscurred by the blue of the off section. You're seeing one of the "wings" of the knob handle appearing as if it's pointing. That entire dial rotated (including the clear plastic portion) and had a little line you lined up the letters with, underneath it. As far as you not thinking they matched, it was common to have symmetrical balancing of matched sets. Almost like mirrored images. Like on 1959 & some other Frigidaire years, the cycle timer on the washer was on the right hand side & on the dryer, it was on the left hand side. I'll have to look for a matched set magazine advertisement in our pictures & post a link for you. It also happened a lot with Kenmores & a lot for Whirlpools. I think control panels were aesthetically designed for most installations to have washer on left & dryer on right.
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Post# 555-5/27/2001-13:09 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (abuse case?)
MESSAGE: Louis, I just looked at a Frigidaire ad on ebay. It's for 1962 appliances. There's a very fuzzy pic of the Custom Imperial washer set, pink, in the background. The washer cycle area is on the right, the dryer's is on the left. I know that on the 1957 control tower models, the washer timer box was on the right, the dryers box was on the left--almost 100% sure of that, from using my friends 1957 dryer. Being left handed, I'd remember that. Their dryer was across the laundry room from their 1959 Imperial washer. In other words, the washer & dryer faced each other. A sink was on the right side of their washer.
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Post# 556-5/27/2001-13:53 ||| forAloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (abuse case?)
MESSAGE: Bob, I had a look again and saw indeed that the pointer has faded, you just see a little red left. But there is still my point about the dryer having different knob handles than the washer. I was wondering if the dryer was perhaps purchased a few months (or perhaps a year) later.
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Post# 557-5/27/2001-14:10 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (really mint)
MESSAGE: That 1968 Kenmore pair was in pristine condition.
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Post# 558-5/27/2001-14:12 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: bringing back the memories
MESSAGE: Great Phillip, but just make sure you look for a flight to MN and not MI, otherwise you're going to be very dissapointed!
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Post# 559-5/27/2001-14:14 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (abuse case?)
MESSAGE: One of my grandmother's elderly friends had a Kenmore washer with a similar control panel design. I never did get a good look at it, so it could have been that washer, or the specific match to that dryer, if there was one.
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Post# 560-5/27/2001-14:15 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: bringing back the memories (Nerve medicine)
MESSAGE: I you all remember to pack your nerve medicine, we'll all be just fine.
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Post# 561-5/27/2001-14:19 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (matching set?)
MESSAGE: This isn't a matched set - the control panels and knobs are different. I have the 68 catlog with the washer and the dryer to match it had exactly the same style panel and knobs as the washer. I don't know for sure what year that dryer is as I don't have 69 thru 73 catalogs, but it must be newer than the washer.
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Post# 562-5/27/2001-14:22 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (matching set?)
MESSAGE: I had scanned the 68 washer and dryer a long time ago - here's the link. First page is dryer and second is the washer.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1?e&.intl=us&.flabel=fld3&.from=d&.pindex=1&start=1&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1%3fd%26.flabel=fld3%26.intl=us%26.src=ph
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Post# 563-5/27/2001-14:56 ||| forAloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: bringing back the memories (Nerve medicine)
MESSAGE: So that's an extra suitcase with dirty laundry and a trunk with medication. My my, if this goes on, I'd better make a reservation for an entire plane LOL.
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Post# 564-5/27/2001-15:05 ||| forAloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (matching set?)
MESSAGE: Thank you Greg for posting the link. I know I can fuss a lot about matching sets, but I felt that the washer and the dryer didn't match. I remember the pictures, especially because of the happy M/M Kenmore couple. Louis
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Post# 565-5/27/2001-16:52 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (matching set?)
MESSAGE: I always loved this control panel style. It's interesting that the dryer didn't match, wonder what beautiful washer and dryer preceded that set. Tom has talked about the clamshell panel Frigidaire, but I've yet to see one - even a close up picture would be enough to see how it opened and the controls. I like the flip down woodgrain cover on the 70's LK's too - so very sleek looking!
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Post# 566-5/27/2001-17:21 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (2 in 1 weekend)
MESSAGE: Steve 1-18 just blew thru town and we had lunch. He's on his way home from a camping trip, and while on the road, he found an appliance graveyard. He showed me the pics in his camera, and guess what? He found the exact same KM washer in coppertone that Robert found in MSP! Wild! I'll await for him to post the pics...
-ph
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Post# 567-5/27/2001-17:27 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (washer on the left ALWAYS)
MESSAGE: Because of the possibility of the washer being hinged to open to the left side, the dryer should ALWAYS be installed on to the right of the washer! My brother-in-law had it reversed in the house he was building and I made him change it. While his Amana washer opened straight back, his dryer was hinged to open from left to right. Better to have him build the house correctly than have to change the dryer door! LOL
-ph
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Post# 568-5/27/2001-18:13 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Excuse me for not observing the "finer points" of the pair. Geez, if they were mine, I'm not sure I could deal with them not being matched. But in vintage mode observation, I could go gaga over this pair. Scream Kenmore style to me, just like Peter's other new set he showed. There's also a slight hue of color difference between the two. but ya know what, I bet the owner was thrilled that they matched close enough to "pass".
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Post# 569-5/27/2001-19:05 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (matching set?)
MESSAGE: I took a picture of the clamshell Frigidaire washer while I was in MD. It is in with the rest of the picts. Picts 30-33.
LINK: http://web.tampabay.rr.com/jasonspages/museum.html
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Post# 570-5/27/2001-20:41 ||| kc4ab (limaburg ky)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (dryer door)
MESSAGE: most new dryers have doors that can be reversed to hing left or right.neptune washers and dryer doors can be hinged on both sides
JEFF
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Post# 571-5/27/2001-20:50 ||| Austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: Check out the new Kitchen Aid logo...cool!
MESSAGE: Hey, look at this. Thanks Robert! (How do you like me know Appnut? LOL)
Todd
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Post# 572-5/27/2001-21:59 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Check out the new Kitchen Aid logo...cool!
MESSAGE: My pleasure Todd, thanks for sending me scan of the KA logo.
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Post# 573-5/27/2001-22:23 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Launderall Service Manual
MESSAGE: Jetcone had turned part of a Launderall Service Manual into a PDF viewing file. The file is saved in the Service Manual Library. This file can only be read in Adobe Acrobat reader. For those who have Adobe Acrobat Reader already installed on their machine (many come with this installed), this should come up right away when you click on it. If you don't have Acrobat, you can get it for free at the link below. Let me know how you guys make out with this cause its an experiment. The manual and text is best read (clearest) at 100%, not the 160% that it opens in.
LINK: http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep.html
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Post# 574-5/27/2001-22:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: New Links Section
MESSAGE: Looks very cool and works great! You are the master! I like the new graphics for the Links and Applianceville too.
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Post# 575-5/27/2001-22:27 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: A New Function - Links
MESSAGE: As promised the Links button is now installed on the home page. You can add links of interesting web sites to visit, just like we did in Yahoo. I have the system set up to sort by the user name who entered the link. But the Perl language can only sort A-Z then lowercase a-z in that order. So if you want your link to be sorted properly in the list, type your user name in the Add Links Page with the First Letter in Upper Case (or all UPPER CASE but not all lowercase).
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Post# 576-5/27/2001-22:28 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New Links Section (Thanks Greg)
MESSAGE: We were typing a similar note at the same time! Must have been reading each-others minds. I've spent the evening putting Tom's '58 Unimatic Tranny back together, I should have it completed this evening.
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Post# 577-5/27/2001-22:29 ||| steved (Albany NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Steve D-- (Frigidaire High Fashion Washer)
MESSAGE: Hey, Scott.....the High Fashion Washer had eye-level controls, with a storage cabinet in-between, a la Flair range style. I have seen the matching dryer, but never the washer. The washer also had infinite speeds. SteveD
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Post# 578-5/27/2001-22:38 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: Return from Maryland
MESSAGE: I just got home about a hour ago. I had a great time with John and Tom - I also enjoyed spending 2 days in the museum studying and cleaning up some machines also doing some inventories. It would be nice if a few people can get involved in setting up. It would be realy be setup fast. But their is lots to do. I am almost at the end of my 2nd roll of film - I will try to complete it tomorrow & see if I can put the stuff on cd or disk. I will have to check our new web site - I forgot I need to check both now for postings. Hope to be in touch with you guys soon.
Peter
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Post# 579-5/27/2001-22:39 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: That was the most adorable little house, and such a wonderful Kenmore set!
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Post# 580-5/27/2001-22:44 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (abuse case?)
MESSAGE: Peter, what does the water level have to do with the permanent press cycle? Don't Sears machines do some kind of filling and pumping out ritual during the pp cycle? I wonder what year they started saying "permanent press" instead of "wash n wear".
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Post# 581-5/27/2001-22:50 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: ...and I bet you'll be happy to explain to me Bob why this is a cardinal sin...
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Post# 582-5/27/2001-22:51 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Bob, the range was a Wards, I think made by Tappan, and there was no dishwasher.
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Post# 583-5/27/2001-22:52 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (see what I mean about KM?)
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, this particular washer and dryer are not an exactly matched set, but they look similar enough that they look matching from afar and I'm thinking the homemaker did buy them at the same time. QEOM
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Post# 584-5/27/2001-22:54 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (abuse case?)
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, this is what you have heard me referring to as an "automatic alphabet" washer. You match the fabric being washed to the code letter on the little chart, and set the washer to that letter on the timer dial, and the washer preselects the temperatures, wash time, speed and etc. The homemaker can choose a cold wash or rinse however using that extra switch.
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Post# 585-5/27/2001-22:57 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (see what I mean about KM?)
MESSAGE: Look again Bob, the dryer's control panel is actuall slightly different, but I"m betting she bought them together. We saw the dryer in coppertone that had a control panel identical to this washers a few months ago. Scott
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Post# 586-5/27/2001-22:59 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (abuse case?)
MESSAGE: Robert verified the washer as being a 68, I wish I had checked the dryer to see if it too was a 68, but if not, it's not far off.
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Post# 587-5/27/2001-23:02 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (matching set?)
MESSAGE: I could be wrong, but since the washer and dryer match and it has the single, also Sears suds tub, I bet she had a wringer washer prior to this set.
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Post# 588-5/27/2001-23:07 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: F&P factory
MESSAGE: This is from a home show on Australian television. They made a visit to the Fisher and paykel factory in Auckland. Thought thims might interest a few, particulary DaDOEs (sorry if i got your name wrong)
LINK: http://lifestyle.ninemsn.com.au/ourhouse/factsheets/db/gizmosandgadgets/01/132.asp
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Post# 589-5/27/2001-23:07 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Steve D-- (Frigidaire High Fashion Washer)
MESSAGE: Oh how interesting....that washer might be quite rare however as I remember Tom saying they had an infinite speed Frigidaire and it was troublesome.
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Post# 590-5/27/2001-23:09 ||| Arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: Not much
MESSAGE: Just wanted to see what a super surgilator looks like!
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Post# 591-5/27/2001-23:14 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (Pics)
MESSAGE: I took pictures of a lot of the same appliances. But if I am able to post mine will be somewhat different. Everyone should visit and we can have all different perspectives.
Peter
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Post# 592-5/27/2001-23:21 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (Pics)
MESSAGE: I hope you got one of the clamshell closed. My cam ate the one I took.
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Post# 593-5/27/2001-23:41 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (closed clamshell)
MESSAGE: Oh no! That's what I wanted to see too! Oh well, may just have to drop in and see it myself.
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Post# 594-5/27/2001-23:52 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD (not bug, but)
MESSAGE: I saw a dryer very similar to this at the thrift store the other day - an airflow model so it was only mildly interesting.
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Post# 595-5/27/2001-00:03 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: F&P factory
MESSAGE: arrrooohhh,
Thanks for the link, it was interesting. I wonder if they'll market the Intuitive in the States?
If it helps you to remember, my nickname is an acronym for "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" (and thus the capitalization of the significant words), the story by Philip K. Dick upon which the movie "Blade Runner" was based.
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Post# 596-5/27/2001-00:35 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Steve D-- (Here's a picture - 1969 model WXP)
MESSAGE: I found the washer you are talking about in the Tech Talk manual for 1969. The WXP had a lighted control panel as well as a work light over the washer top, window lid, dispensers for liquid detergent and fabric softener. The magnetic coil clutch provided infinite agitation and spin speeds with a range of 220 strokes per minute to 330 SPM for agitation and spin speeds of 300-1010 RPM. Self leveling rear legs were added to this model as it tips the scales at 283 pounds!
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/threeringagitator/vwp?.dir=/1979+Frigidaire+Washer+Line&.dnm=1969+WXP.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 597-5/27/2001-00:40 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Steve D-- (Here's a picture - 1969 model WXP)
MESSAGE: Oops, the strokes per minute should be 80 SPM to 330.
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/threeringagitator/vwp?.dir=/1979+Frigidaire+Washer+Line&.dnm=1969+WXP.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 598-5/27/2001-01:47 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Steve D-- (Rinse Lamp)
MESSAGE: Notice how they talk about the "Rinse Lamp", and I quote:
"The WXN Model Incorporates a lint-away rinse lamp in the console to indicate to the user when over-flow rinsing is occurring. This is the same lamp and mounting as is incorporated on the WCIN model."
Even though I think the Rinse-Lamp is super cool, I can't imagine what they were thinking when they put this feature in, it’s unbelievable.
I can see it now, at the Kravits' house, across the street from Samantha and Darrin's house:
Gladys: "Abner, my rinse-lamp just came on"
Abner: "First its flying dogs, disappearing shrubs and old ladies sitting on rooftops, NOW its "Rinse-Lamps", Gladys come take your medicine." LOLOL
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Post# 599-5/28/2001-07:24 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Scott, this is a reply to message #580 also. Scott, if I remember correctly, the owner manual specifically stated on our 1970 Model 800 to not have the water leve set below medium when using PP, but was optimum for always high water level setting. Yes, there were a series of fills & pump outs. But when lowest setting was used, there was not a large variance bgetween that lowest setting & when it drained enough to trip the reset function of the water level. On Kenmores, the machine simultaneously agitated at slow speed as it was filling during cool down--Whirlpools I played with just filled, no simultaneous agitation. At lowest setting, depending upon temp of wash water, these short spurts of fill & drain didn't add enough water to cool the water down to a tepid state, or even cold. And as it wwent through this series of events, sometimes, when the timer advanced to the 2 minutes of agitate, the water level may be "caught" right above the point of auto water level reset. This was an 8 minute series. 2 minutes of drain & begin to fill. After those two minutes, if it was still filling, agitation would cease & it would continue filling until water level setting satisfied. Once done, then it would agitate again for 2 minutes. then another 2 minute segment of drain & begin to fill. Then finally another 2 minute segment of completing fill & agitation. This was all done on slow speed. The rhythem of this patten was optimally designed for full water level only. In our house, if a less than medium, all the way down to low setting, this rhythem of events could result in the 2-minute agitation phase not neccessarily performing at the set satisfied water level setting. This was always amusing to me, watching stuff agitate at at less than desired setting. But, since at slow speed, I don't think any fabric damage was done. To me, it was kinda cool. During the first year or two of machine ownership, my mom would set every cycle for warm/warm combination. PP didn't have a "cool-down" then. Cause, it would do this process with warm water & that would also disrup the rhythem of how it was designed. Rapid water fill with warm & start to drain as timer advanced to the 2-minute agitation. Later, as it became vogue to use cold rinse to save energy in the mid-70s, mom generally used the warm/cold setting then.
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Post# 600-5/28/2001-09:05 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Steve D-- (Silly Washer Lights)
MESSAGE: Don't you love it? The green '70's Speed Queen has a "Flotation Rinse" light too - what a hoot! WP/KM had a "Filtering light" for a number of years as well. Maytag had an operating light that didn't shut off until you pushed in the dial at the end of the cycle - when you went back down to switch the wash a couple days later, the light would remind you that you have mildewed clothes waiting. Monkey Wards had an operating light on their TOL (Norge) washer - as if you couldn't hear it.
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Post# 601-5/28/2001-09:37 ||| Chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: Bug Detected!!!!!
MESSAGE: Hello Everyone??
Although I have been enjoying this site ever since it has been installed, this is my first message being posted on since its inception. But anyway, the latest bug I have detected was when I was looking at "Uni's" latest estate photos, when I have decided to go back, I was directed to a "restricted area" and I was told to click back to photos. I thought that when you click on the "back" button on your browser, it was supposed to take you back to the previous screen.
But other than that, I am enjoying the new site so far. Keep up the good work, Uni.
--Charles--
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Post# 602-5/28/2001-10:06 ||| Chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (1968 Kenmore Washer/Dryer Set)
MESSAGE: Uni:
"We'll of course being a holiday weekend, there were only 3 sales, and only one of them had anything to photograph. But there was a 1968 Kenmore washer and dryer set, at this sale, that a few of you guys would just die for!"
My Response:
Yes Uni, you are right. I think I would be one of those guys. That is a magnificent set in Avacodo. But if this is a matching set, then why is the dryer's console lower than that of the washer?? Also, I have noticed that the dryer's console has a "thin" backguard on top of its console and the washer does not. Just noticing the discrepency as I was observing the photos.
--Charles--
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Post# 603-5/28/2001-10:56 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: Steve D-- (maybe they were for the deaf?)
MESSAGE: who know sometimes with the lights they have always amused me even the KM letting you know the filter was working
PB
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Post# 604-5/28/2001-11:02 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Launderall Service Manual
MESSAGE: My Acrobat reader starts when I hit the file, but isn't able to read it. Does anyone else have the same problem? Louis
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Post# 605-5/28/2001-11:06 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (adorable house)
MESSAGE: Your Majesty,
Is that the kind of house you are looking for as a new dwelling? We found the house very cute too adn could easily imagine you living in such a house.
QLOTOC
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Post# 606-5/28/2001-11:09 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (abuse case?)
MESSAGE: Your Majesty,
In Europe we have frontloaders with one dial where also the temperature is selected through the timer. We call that a monodial system. It's mostly found on the cheaper machines.
QLOTOC
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Post# 607-5/28/2001-11:16 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: F&P factory
MESSAGE: Blade Runner, wasn't Rutger Hauer in that movie?
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Post# 608-5/28/2001-11:20 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: F&P factory
MESSAGE: Rutger may have been, but the "star" was Harrison Ford.
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Post# 609-5/28/2001-11:25 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Steve D-- (Silly Washer Lights)
MESSAGE: All washers I had until now had/has/have an operating light that doesn't shut off until you turn the washer off. Is that unusual on US washers?
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Post# 610-5/28/2001-11:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Launderall Service Manual
MESSAGE: Very Cool! In time, we'll be able to share everything with one another so everyone can follow along with pictures and service info in the restoration projects. Will there be more of the Launderall manual coming?
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Post# 611-5/28/2001-11:52 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Launderall Service Manual
MESSAGE: Louis, the link is directly to the .pdf file. Instead of left-clicking on it to open it, try right-clicking on it and select "Save Link As" (or whatever the choice is) to save the .pdf file to your hard drive. Then you can peruse it off-line whenever you want, and Acrobat Reader will open in a window unto itself instead of as a "plug-in" window inside your browser.
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Post# 612-5/28/2001-11:54 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: F&P factory
MESSAGE: Harrison Ford, Sean Young, Daryl Hannah, Rutger Hauer, Joanna Cassidy, Brion James, Edward James Olmos, M. Emmet Walsh, William Sanderson -- lots of wonderful character actors. And that fabulous Vangelis music!
LINK: http://us.imdb.com/Title?0083658
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Post# 613-5/28/2001-12:25 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Steve D-- (Here's a picture - 1969 model WXP)
MESSAGE: VERY cool! I will have to read that page! I have never seen that machine before.
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Post# 614-5/28/2001-12:27 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Steve D-- (Rinse Lamp)
MESSAGE: Well remember Greg, the Sears/RCA feature of a filter "lamp"...I suppose its kind of the same thing, marginally helpful perhaps for folks in the habit of start the washer and are able to resist looking inside, LOL
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Post# 615-5/28/2001-12:27 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Steve D-- (Silly Washer Lights)
MESSAGE: Usually, only TOL models had lights - now and then you would see a small indicator light on a washer or dryer, but the majority of models sold here had no lights at all. Some of the very first washers had "on/operating" lights like Robert's ABC, GE, etc. Recent models of Maytag Intellidry dryers had a Moisture Monitor - two blinking lights that indicated it was sensing moisture in the clothes. The less often the top light blinked, the dryer the clothes were getting. This was a fun novelty the first couple of loads, then you pretty much ignore it and take the clothes out when the buzzer sounded.
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Post# 616-5/28/2001-12:27 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Steve D-- (Silly Washer Lights)
MESSAGE: Usually, only TOL models had lights - now and then you would see a small indicator light on a washer or dryer, but the majority of models sold here had no lights at all. Some of the very first washers had "on/operating" lights like Robert's ABC, GE, etc. Recent models of Maytag Intellidry dryers had a Moisture Monitor - two blinking lights that indicated it was sensing moisture in the clothes. The less often the top light blinked, the dryer the clothes were getting. This was a fun novelty the first couple of loads, then you pretty much ignore it and take the clothes out when the buzzer sounded.
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Post# 617-5/28/2001-12:28 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Its Perl Baily... (It's Pearl Bailey... (Kenmore Print Ads))
MESSAGE: Greg:
Tell me precisely, what Kenmore machines were in these magazine ads that Pearl has appeared in?? Were these Lady Kenmores?? If so, were they posted to this site?? I haven't seen them yet. The only Pearl Bailey commercial (both on TV and in magazines) I ever seen was the one that had the Westinghouse (then, it became "White-Westinghouse") F/L washer and the matching dryer in it. As I recall correctly, the Westinghouse ad started appearing around 1976 or 1977.
--Charles--
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Post# 618-5/28/2001-12:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Its Perl Baily... (It's Pearl Bailey... (Kenmore Print Ads))
MESSAGE: I've never seen her in anything but Westinghouse advertising. The Lady Kenmore ad was with Jane Wyatt.
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Post# 619-5/28/2001-12:31 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: WOW! That is quite a process...it's interesting though, you mention "warm/warm"...Im surpised the pp cycle did not override this to use a cold rinse. I think washers today (and probably the automatic alphabet models then) would do that.
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Post# 620-5/28/2001-12:36 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Picture of the Day - Frigidaire with a lid lock!
MESSAGE: I have the WCI service manual for this machine if anyone finds one of these treasures! Ad doesn't mention that indexing tub at all - wonder why?
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Post# 621-5/28/2001-12:37 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (adorable house)
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, we would love nothing greater than a dwelling such as that, and we would take as impeccable care of it as this homemaker did. It is possible in time with a little luck and planning that such a dwelling might be possible
QEOM
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Post# 622-5/28/2001-12:42 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (abuse case?)
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, we personally find this a very convenient arrangement, but we can only surmise that since most of the later model American washers have gone to separate controls for all these functions that are set manually by the homemaker, that this is the preferred process for many. There are only a very few upper end washers left that employ the more automated process.
QEOM
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Post# 623-5/28/2001-12:56 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Bug Detected!!!!! (that's Yahoo)
MESSAGE: Hi Charles, nice to see you here. That is a problem with Yahoo Pictures, it used to happen to me in the old club too.
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Post# 624-5/28/2001-12:58 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (1968 Kenmore Washer/Dryer Set)
MESSAGE: I said "washer and dryer set" not "matching set", those two machines were not a perfect match.
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Post# 625-5/28/2001-12:59 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Launderall Service Manual (more, more)
MESSAGE: Hello Jet, we're waiting for the rest of the manual, get scanning Mr! LOL.
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Post# 626-5/28/2001-13:03 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the Day - Frigidaire with a lid lock! (I was wondering)
MESSAGE: I was wondering if that picture of the day would fool any of you guys thinking it was a GM 1/18 washer. Actually this is THE VERY FIRST WCI Washer, a 1980 model. I picked up that brochure that very first day I saw a new WCI-Frigidarie. I picked up two brochures, one to save, the other to use to wipe my tears away LOL.
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Post# 627-5/28/2001-13:12 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Launderall Service Manual (problem solved)
MESSAGE: I solved the problem, just had to upgrade the ancient computer with a newer Acrobat Reader. I still had the 2.0 version.
The Launderall is absolutely one of my favourites. Actually the toploading H-axis washers are my favourite type of washers, but I couldn't select that one in my profile (Robert??). Again I have to say that I'm still amazed the European brands haven't brought this type of washer to the US yet. I guess a lot of Americans would like the convenience of these washers. Only drama seekers will not like this type very much, because there is no view possible on things happening in the tub.
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Post# 628-5/28/2001-13:19 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: F&P factory
MESSAGE: Glenn, Rutger Hauer is a dutch actor who used to live quite near Groningen (where I live) when he still lived in Holland. Besides acting in many dutch movies he also had the main part in a dutch TV series about a young knight called Floris. It was one of my favourite TV series. Louis
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Post# 629-5/28/2001-13:24 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (adorable house)
MESSAGE: Your Majesty,
We would be happy to see you purchase such dwelling and would be very happy to pay you a state visit. We too are looking for a new place to live, but it's probably going to be a rental place since the prices of the houses went through the roof in our country.
QLOTOC
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Post# 630-5/28/2001-13:26 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (abuse case?)
MESSAGE: But such TOL washers, Your Majesty, don't have the timer type of controls, but electronic cycle selectors. Our Miele has such a control.
QLOTOC
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Post# 631-5/28/2001-13:29 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the Day - Frigidaire with a lid lock! (I was wondering)
MESSAGE: For me as an 'outsider' the dryer door is always the giveaway.
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Post# 632-5/28/2001-13:44 ||| Chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: Editing My Profile....
MESSAGE: Hello Uni:
How are you doing again?? I have posted my profile on this site. How come my information isn't showing up??
--Charles--
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Post# 633-5/28/2001-13:46 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (abuse case?)
MESSAGE: Scott, yes back in the days of alphabet washing from Kenmore, stuff was controlled in the timer. But today, I can think of only BOL washers from WCI, Whirlpool, & Kenmore, I even thinkg GE, that have water temps programmed into the timer. I personally don't like these type of arrangements, only long wash cycles have Hot shorter times end up with warm & cold. Very confining. I prefer flexibility of selecting my own time & temps. Even the current BOL Frigidaire FLer model 425 has temps only controlled in timer/cycle time. Louis, Electronic paneled washers here now (Neptune, Calypso, Amana TOL, GE Wizzards) have fabric pads that automatically set to a default temp (usually warm with cold rinse) and have a set speed combination. Slightly different, but same principal, in the washer glory days of cottons white (colorfast), cottons colored (non-colorfast) cycles.
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Post# 634-5/28/2001-13:51 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Editing My Profile....
MESSAGE: Charles, I see it just fine. Nice to have the information reinforced that I'd gathered about your history throughout our postings on the other club site.
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Post# 635-5/28/2001-13:55 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (abuse case?)
MESSAGE: Actually Bob, I was referring to the washer with a electronic dial, not the fully electronic ones. The Miele has the Novotronic dial and there is also a GE model with a dial that is not a timer. Luigi
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Post# 636-5/28/2001-13:57 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Editing My Profile.... (Editing My Profile....)
MESSAGE: Then where's it at, Appnut?? I don't see it.
--Charles--
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Post# 637-5/28/2001-14:09 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Editing My Profile.... (Editing My Profile....)
MESSAGE: Did you hit refresh/reload charles? It's there, you just need to use your browser properly.
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Post# 638-5/28/2001-14:12 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Editing My Profile.... (Missing Profile)
MESSAGE: Hey Charles, I am having the same problem. Part of mine has disappeared. It was there last night and gone today. Terry
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Post# 639-5/28/2001-14:19 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Editing My Profile.... (Missing Profile)
MESSAGE: That's strange Terry, we'll have to keep a close watch and see if we can figure out if anything is wrong. Charles profile seems fine, I've been updating my profile slowly but surely, and the new info I've added is always there. I keep a watch on your profile. You might want to type up your profile text in a word processor and save the file so you can cut and paste the text easily back in if it dissapears again.
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Post# 640-5/28/2001-15:06 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (adorable house)
MESSAGE: Unfortunately, Your Majesty, the same has happened to our homes here. That is where the "luck" and "planning" will have to come in. We do hope you will pay us a state visit at any time however regardless of the outcome of this endeavor.
QEOM
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Post# 641-5/28/2001-16:13 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Editing My Profile.... (Editing My Profile....)
MESSAGE: Unimatic:
Yes, I sure did hit my "Reload" button. My "updated" profile still isn't showing up. How come you and "Appnut" can see it but I can't??
--Charles--
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Post# 642-5/28/2001-16:30 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Editing My Profile.... (Editing My Profile....)
MESSAGE: Are you clicking on your name or on top of your browser on Profiles?
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Post# 643-5/28/2001-16:43 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Editing My Profile.... (Editing My Profile....)
MESSAGE: Unimatic (Appnut and Louis):
Now it's there. I see it now. Thanks..
--Charles--
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Post# 644-5/28/2001-17:21 ||| Syndets2000 (Nanjemoy, Md)
SUBJECT: Hi Everyone ! !
MESSAGE: Hi everyone, I just joined- LOVE the pictures, & stuff !
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Post# 645-5/28/2001-18:08 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi Everyone ! !
MESSAGE: Welcome aboard, glad to hear from you again.
Todd
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Post# 646-5/28/2001-18:30 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi Everyone ! !
MESSAGE: Robert, glad you have re-connected with us here at our new address. We have definitely moved on up.
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Post# 647-5/28/2001-19:12 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi Everyone ! ! (Hi Robert!)
MESSAGE: Hi Robert, welcome to the new club! Hope things are well out there in Westinghouse-Laundromatland.
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Post# 648-5/28/2001-19:23 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the Day - Frigidaire with a lid lock! (Pic Of The Day )
MESSAGE: I noticed right away especially when they spoke about the lid lock. By the way those horrible things did not come out until 1981. Everyone keeps saying 1980 but it wasen't until January 1981 when the first started to be distributed to the stores. I remember because I had spoke to 2 sales people from 2 different sources in Oct 1980 that said WCI was going to make improvments to it's designs and they would be rolled out the first of the new year (1981). I personally thought all this wonderful things were going to happen. Even the appliance people were shocked. No body ever thought something like this would happen.
Peter
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Post# 649-5/28/2001-19:23 ||| Austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: Site changes are great!
MESSAGE: I like the new additions to the site Robert, Thanks!
Todd
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Post# 650-5/28/2001-19:30 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Steve D-- (1969 Tall Model )
MESSAGE: I like this tall model - I wish they had made them for the 1/18's.
Peter
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Post# 651-5/28/2001-19:54 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: Trip to Maryland Part 2
MESSAGE: I also wanted to let everyone know aside from spending time at the museum I spent all Saturday afternoon with Tom doing Laundry in his washers. We used the Unimatic & I have to tell you all Tom is the best spray rinser in the whole world. In his Maytag 102 he found awhile ago with the time fill he washed a load of real dirty rags. It was a interesting washer, but it realy didn't clean the dirty rags. Next he put these white rags in his Creda & set the temp for 200 degrees - The cycle took close to 2 hours. But boy did those rags come out clean. The Euro design is definatly designed to realy clean without bleach. We also did a load of sheets in a late 60's rapid dry. Real cool to watch. Plus he rinsed 2 loads in the Miele. Real interesting afternoon. I put in my pictures to be developed today & should be ready by the end of the week - I am getting them on CD also. So I will do the best I can to post. Happy wash day everyone.
Peter
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Post# 652-5/28/2001-19:58 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the Day - Frigidaire with a lid lock! (you're right)
MESSAGE: Thanks Peter, you're right about 1981, now that it think about it was in October of '81 that I saw them and pick up that brochure.
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Post# 653-5/28/2001-19:58 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Site changes are great!
MESSAGE: Thanks Todd, more to come.
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Post# 654-5/28/2001-20:49 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Tom's Unimatics
MESSAGE: We'll Tom's 1958 Unimatic transmission is back together and runs beautifully. We have lots of oil pressure and its very quite, that mechanism now is in very good shape again. As for the earlier 1952 model, its almost done, but I unfortunately I need one more part. Tom please see the second picture in the link below(be sure to select full size) for more info.
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/miscbrands00/lst?&.dir=/Tom+Unimatics&.src=ph&.view=t&.last=1
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Post# 655-5/28/2001-20:58 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator
MESSAGE: We'll of all things to be behind on, I was very behind on the laundry. After spending some time out in the beautiful weather today, it was time to go to the basement and do some work down there including WASH. I pulled the Norge Burp-a-lator agitator out of the attic cause I haven't used it in a few years. Here's a real treat for you guys, especially for those who have never seen a pump-up filter agitator before...
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/miscbrands00/lst?&.dir=/Norge+Burp-a-lator&.src=ph&.view=t&.last=1
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Post# 656-5/28/2001-21:12 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the Day - Frigidaire with a lid lock! (you're right)
MESSAGE: I wonder then why they were already appearing in the 1979 tech talk. They must have continued selling the 1979 1-18s into 1980.
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Post# 657-5/28/2001-21:22 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom's Unimatics
MESSAGE: Robert, Is it possible to use an easy out to remove the broken screw or even drill it out and rethread it or use a helicoil?
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Post# 658-5/28/2001-21:24 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the Day - Frigidaire with a lid lock! (Frigidaire Tech Talk )
MESSAGE: Yes Scott - they did sell the 1/18 until early 1981. Are you sure in the tech talk it was the WCI washer. When I think back to the late part of 1980 and their was talk of changes comming nobody seemed to know about what was about to happen until after the fact. Thats one of the reasons the looks were the the same. And their claim to fame after the fact in mid 1981 was that they washed just as well as the GM models did. I remember 1 salesman said he had a arguement with a wci rep saying he was supposed to tell people that these new monsters were just as good as the 1/18. The guy told me he would do no such thing. Actually most people at that time felt they already had Westinghouse TL & what did they need to sell this for. Also frigidaire stock went way down & all of it's business went to maytag & whirlpool.
Peter
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Post# 659-5/28/2001-21:26 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (Norge)
MESSAGE: Robert,
I realy love this Norge.
Peter
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Post# 660-5/28/2001-21:34 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (Really neat Robert)
MESSAGE: Hi Robert, that Burp-a-lator is the coolest!! Never knew that Norge had anything like that. When did it come out. Hope we can see this in action at the convention. Terry
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Post# 661-5/28/2001-21:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom's Unimatics (maybe, but)
MESSAGE: Hi Jason, this one is very touchy. First off all the screw was really bonded in there, one of the worse I've ever seen. So an "easy out" wouldn't work. You could try to drill it out and re-tap it, but you need to use a screw that's one size up and the Unimatic pump screw is a very particular part because of the way it fits into the pump impeller. As for a helicoil, I've never heard of that what it is?
Of course, if we didn't have a backup, I could figure out something, but its best to use standard parts and procedures if they are available.
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Post# 662-5/28/2001-21:53 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (Really neat Robert)
MESSAGE: Thanks Terry, of course we'll see it in action at the convention, Seeing-it-in-Action is what this convention is going to be all about! I believe the Filter-Agitator came out around 1960.
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Post# 663-5/28/2001-21:54 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: FOUND: A graveyard in rural Georgia
MESSAGE: It was one of those, "STOP THE CAR, RICH-ARD!" monents (Hyasant Bouquet persona). Needless to say, Rhinnie and I were about an hour checknig it out. Will definitely be returning. Only about an hour from home, too.
Had very little juice left in my battery, but here is a sample of the place.
http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/svb14_1953?d&.flabel=fld12&.intl=us&.src=ph&start=1
Hope the link works.
Steve1-18
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Post# 664-5/28/2001-21:54 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: Link to the grave yard
MESSAGE: ooops!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/svb14_1953?d&.flabel=fld12&.intl=us&.src=ph&start=1
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Post# 665-5/28/2001-22:03 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the Day - Frigidaire with a lid lock! (Frigidaire Tech Talk )
MESSAGE: Peter, maybe Greg will post it sometime. You're right: I'm sure of those people who did buy that Westinghouse-Frigidaire krap, very few if any of them had owned a GM Frigidaire product. The vast majority of those folks as you noted moved on to other brands after this travesty. Scott
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Post# 666-5/28/2001-22:06 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Link to the grave yard
MESSAGE: Fabulous! I saw that later 40" Frigidaire range, and that Coppertone Sears washer is probably the same very nice one we saw in avacado yesterday! It will be interesting to hear what you find when you return again! Is it the back end of a store type thing, or ? Scott
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Post# 667-5/28/2001-22:37 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: FOUND: A graveyard in rural Georgia (Ingredients for a dream come true!!)
MESSAGE: How fun! Looks like it will be a few trips for you to the graveyard hauling home treasures! How many more machines do you have room for? I guess that's a silly question! I hope some dreams come true in that field - great find, congrats!
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Post# 668-5/28/2001-22:51 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: FOUND: A graveyard in rural Georgia (wow)
MESSAGE: Very Cool Steve, thanks for the pictures. It brings back memories of the SD farm.
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Post# 669-5/28/2001-22:55 ||| Chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: Okay, about my profile again.....
MESSAGE: I have since corrected a spelling error, and added some new information to my profile, how do I get my profile to show the new information as well??
--Charles--
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Post# 670-5/28/2001-23:07 ||| Chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Okay, about my profile again..... (Nevermind.......)
MESSAGE: It's there now. All I got to do is click on the "Reload" button on my browser about 2 or 3 times, and then the information finally shows up.
Thanks.......
--Charles--
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Post# 671-5/28/2001-23:32 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom's Unimatics (maybe, but)
MESSAGE: Hi Robert, A Helicoil is an insert made out of strong steel that use to repair threads. What you do is drill out the bolt or screw with the same size drill bit as the screw. Then you thread the hole the tap that comes with the helicoil kit. Add a few drops of Locktite red (nonremoveable) and install the Helicoil with the installer tool. Then you reassemble everytihng useing the same size screw as original. In fact it is even stronger than original because of the design of the coil. It almost works like a double locknut because you have the threads you already tapped in for the helicoil and then you have the threads of the helicoil itself. The screw or bolt threads into the coil putting preasure on the coil in turn putting preasure on the tapped threads. With the locktite it will never fail. You can pick up a kit at your auto parts store.
I have used this many, many times to repair damaged threads in an engine block for the head bolts and in the heads for the rocker arm studs. So far they have all been able to keep on holding for 6+ years even torqued to over 100 foot pounds.
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Post# 672-5/28/2001-00:26 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (Thanks again Uni!)
MESSAGE: That was the best thing I have seen in ages. I really enjoyed that. Those norge agitators remind me od old simpson agitators, with those little "ears" up the top of the shaft.
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Post# 673-5/29/2001-02:52 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom's Unimatics (maybe, but)
MESSAGE: Hqots, that's an excellent idea. Robert, the Helicoil system is easy and bullet proof. I too have used them on engine blocks for cylinder head bolts. The Helicoil is actually a hi-tensil spring. The outside of the spring fits the new threads that you tap, the inside fits your original bolt/screw. When you buy the Helicoil kit, it will specify what drill bit to drill with. I like to buy a bit and just keep it with the kit, that way it's always fresh (and I can find it). You can also "stack" the Helicoils in a hole that needs really deep threads, by putting more than one coil in. They take about 10min. to install, including drilling. You select the kit based on the dia. and thread pitch of your bolt/screw.
When you drill, drill at a slow speed and use some kind of lube as you apply medium pressure. A new titanium bit, at a slow/med speed, with some spray lube will cut right through that old screw. You may be able to increase your drill bit size a step at a time until you have the old screw drilled almost to its threads. Then try your easy out on that. If it doesn't work, your just a step away from having drilled large enough to use the Helicoil.
Todd
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Post# 674-5/29/2001-04:41 ||| Chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: Signing In
MESSAGE: Hi Everyone,
Congratulations on the fantastic Web Site, very topical & colourful and a whirl (or should that be swirl) to use.
Hope you are all checking your hoses ready for the convention!!!
You`ve given us Brits on the other side of the water a kick into tracking our own appliance history etc and logging it on the web. About six of us at the moment, will give you a link when we get more info.
Keep up the good work and chat.
Cheers for now, Mike
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Post# 675-5/29/2001-06:06 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: Signing In (Nice to see internationals)
MESSAGE: I lived in Germany for two years and spent most of my time looking at washing machine there i was very impressed with the diffrent types but never got to see any in action till I got my own front loader. Its nice that we have an international flair amounst us (excuse the spelling )
Welcome to the appliance ville
Philippe
AKA riverstud
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Post# 676-5/29/2001-06:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom's Unimatics (maybe, but)
MESSAGE: We'll thanks Jason, that sounds very interesting! Even if Tom sends a new rotor or new motor, I will keep the old Rotor and experiment with a helicoil kit. I'll let you know how it goes.
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Post# 677-5/29/2001-06:54 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom's Unimatics (very interesting)
MESSAGE: I've drilled out screws many-a-times. But I've never heard of this helicoil. I love titanium drill bits, they make the work so much easier. I give this all a try and take some pictures as I doing it.
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Post# 678-5/29/2001-06:56 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Signing In
MESSAGE: We'll hi Mike! Welcome to the club, please tell those other 6 British members about this site, we would love to hear from them as well.
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Post# 679-5/29/2001-07:04 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Signing In (Servis Logo)
MESSAGE: Sounds like you're a big Servis fan Mike, if you have a vintage Servis logo scan it and email it to me and I will turn it into wallpaper for you. Or if you know of a internet web address with the Service logo, I can capture it right off of there?
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Post# 680-5/29/2001-09:37 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: POTD Hotpoint DW
MESSAGE: Okay, I must confess, I'm assuming it's an impeller dishwasher. However, I've never seen an impeller with such a "flexible" racking arrangement for the bottom rack. Turbo, or anyone else that would know, how did it have the second "deck" of water source if this was impeller. I see that saucer tower thing in the bottom rack, but I'm clueless and want to be enlightened. After all, isn't that what it's all about here too--educating us on our deficiencies of vintage appliances? And BTW, I hope these POTDs are inclines as to what we'll see completely in brochures area.
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Post# 681-5/29/2001-09:50 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: 1962 KM dryer working
MESSAGE: Saturday and Sunday were beautiful days and I spent them at the 'mat. Monday was to be my day off to work on appliances, and it rains all day! Because my work would be outside in the carport, I opted instead to clean house. But I did get the '62 KM dryer going...
I replaced the door switch, and with a squeal the machine started right up and runs fine. However, the lights are still flakey, sometimes on, sometimes off. The dryer also seems to have some pretty wild temperature swings. Anyone have good ideas for monitoring and adjusting temp swings? Lastly, there must have been some kind of gasket around the lint screen which is either missing or is worn out, because I'm getting a heck of a lot hot, humid air output thru the top of the dryer.
The house sounds like it's ready to take off with the 1-18 pounding away and the dryer roaring. No wonder why laundries were in basements or out in the garage!
Pics will be posted the next time I use the laptop to get online...
-ph
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Post# 682-5/29/2001-10:29 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Miss Lady K is ill again...... (10 car pile up)
MESSAGE: Jason, A ten car pile up would be quite a dramatic event in that end of your house. Tom
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Post# 683-5/29/2001-10:36 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: New member (RE: New member (Lifetime obsession ))
MESSAGE: Where bouts in the Atlanta area do you live? I grew up in the Decatur/Avondale area. Tom
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Post# 684-5/29/2001-10:42 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: '72 Kenmore set
MESSAGE: Peter, and the control panel is a heavy piece of diecast metal that is chrome around the outer edges and black on some inside surfaces (forget exactly where)? Friends had a set. Tom
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Post# 685-5/29/2001-10:43 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: How Does the Picture of the Day Work?
MESSAGE: is this catch or something involving drainage via tubes? Tom
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Post# 686-5/29/2001-10:49 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (washer drama)
MESSAGE: Robert, there is an A+ for washer drama. I sure want to have a look at the Norge on the washer convention. Louis
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Post# 687-5/29/2001-10:52 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: i forget what i was going to say?
MESSAGE: Besides Jeff, look at all that the youngsters missed that we got to touch and even play with. Tom
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Post# 688-5/29/2001-10:54 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Another logo suggestion (Another question)
MESSAGE: That M in a circle in on the front of my 61 or 62 Highlander 102. I think it was supposed to look modren (not a typo)or something. Tom
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Post# 689-5/29/2001-10:58 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: FOUND: A graveyard in rural Georgia (Hyacinth)
MESSAGE: Sweety dahlink, the woman's name is Hyacinth and not... All the sisters have flower names and I think she would very appaled reading her name spelled in the wrong way. And furthermore I don't think that she would have such a moment at an appliance graveyard. Such a place would be more suitable for Onslow. I think I already hear Daisy shouting "STOP THE CAR, ONSLOW". Probably Rose in the back wondering if the dishy vicar would be around.
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Post# 690-5/29/2001-12:04 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Link to the grave yard
MESSAGE: These appliance graveyards are really something. You don't see them overhere, appliances are dismantled as soon as possible. There is a place nearby where I sometimes look over the fence, but there is not a lot to see. Last year a new system was introduced. You pay a removal tax when you buy a new appliance. In return for that appliance dealers have to take old appliances back. In the past they sometimes refused to take old appliances back, but they have to now. No more old washers on the street for the hunters. Steve, thank you for the pictures.
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Post# 691-5/29/2001-12:21 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Signing In (Hoover Keymatic picture)
MESSAGE: Hi Mike, I saw in your profile that one of your dream machines is the Hoover Keymatic. I have been considering buying such a machine, but I didn't buy it in the end because I didn't have a decent place to put it. I got a scan of the front page of the manual sent though and thought you might like the picture. Perhaps you have already seen it, it was already in my picture album. Louis
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius?e&.intl=us&.flabel=fld1&.from=d&.pindex=12&start=1&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius%3fd%26.flabel=fld1%26.intl=us%26.src=ph
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Post# 692-5/29/2001-12:49 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD Hotpoint DW (Hotpoint's 1st)
MESSAGE: Nope Bob, this is Hotpoints very first dishwasher with a spray arm, sans impeller.
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Post# 693-5/29/2001-13:05 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD Hotpoint DW (Hotpoint's 1st)
MESSAGE: Thanks Robert. Got me all excited, my new piece of info I've learned for the day.
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Post# 694-5/29/2001-13:22 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 KM dryer working
MESSAGE: Sounds like you need a new thermostat peter, that would probably correct temp swing problem. Those disk type thermostats are readily available and they are cheap. As for the seal around the filter, try some closed cell foam.
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Post# 695-5/29/2001-13:28 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD Hotpoint DW (Hotpoint's 1st)
MESSAGE: Did this machine have an over the top spray that came out of one corner and sprayed across a rippled pattern in the top of the DW to scatter the spray? I recently saw this in an old HP machine. Looked kinda ineffective to me...
-ph
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Post# 696-5/29/2001-13:28 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Steve D-- (Rinse Lamp)
MESSAGE: The Lint Away Rinse light made as much sense as Kenmore's Filtering light. Tom
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Post# 697-5/29/2001-14:18 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD Hotpoint DW (Hotpoint's 1st)
MESSAGE: Peter, my first apt. in college had a 60s HP dishwasher with that corner spray. To my knowledge and observation (I tripped the lock lever so it ran with the door open), I thought it only "worked" during the fill part of each phase. If it actually had water pumping through it while it was "washing" it sure did a piss-poor job. Always had rice collected in the tops of mugs & indentions of glass tops. From one ad I saw, I thought this corner "sprayer's" purpose was to start rinsing the dishes before the pump started. It was a joke from my experience. The machine was about 6 years old, at most, when I had it in the residence.
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Post# 698-5/29/2001-15:57 ||| jaxcubb (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: New member (RE: New member )
MESSAGE: Tom, I live in the Woodstock area, not too far from PeterH770's laundromat :-)
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Post# 699-5/29/2001-17:58 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: New member (RE: New member )
MESSAGE: Welcome to the club, were you a member of the Yahoo club before? Hope you enjoy this site as much as I do. Louis
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Post# 700-5/29/2001-19:15 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Favorite/Personal Quote in Profile
MESSAGE: Would it be difficult to add a favorite/personal quote into the profile section? That was kind of fun in the yahoo system - at some point in the future, maybe a personal photo would be fun too.
No hurry, just suggestions.
"Cleanliness...so essential to family well being, so easily achieved with a Blackstone."
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Post# 701-5/29/2001-19:45 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator
MESSAGE: Robert, how similar is this version of burp-up to the one that was used in later norges--was the same process used to get the water to the top or another process?
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Post# 702-5/29/2001-20:05 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: How Does the Picture of the Day Work?
MESSAGE: I meant to say, we'll have to catch the picture of the day at your house once we arrive. And believe me, it's gonna take me the better part of the day to get there.
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Post# 703-5/29/2001-20:08 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (washer drama)
MESSAGE: Robert, I hope we get to see both agitators in action. I loved the gasping the pump made during the wash cycles on the coin op timelines I used to see from age 4 until age 9 at neighborhood laudries.
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Post# 704-5/29/2001-20:38 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (cool burps)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the great pictures, Robert. My aunt had a burp-up Norge from the early 60's...same agitator and the small solid tub. Her filter was aqua. I loved to watch that thing wash, the burp-up action was so cool and the sound it made was fun too. Add the overflow rinse and you have great water drama.
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Post# 705-5/29/2001-20:57 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: How Does the Picture of the Day Work?
MESSAGE: It's worth the travel and associated hassle that comes with it - this is our very own jihad! (sp?) You will remember this weekend like your first washer memory!
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Post# 706-5/29/2001-20:58 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: AKKKKK Internet not working!!!
MESSAGE: What an awful day today was. My poor Roadrunner got ran over and it still is not working. Someone cut a big cable and they are still fixing it. So now I am here with AOL and the free trial. This is just awful. Kinda like washing in a WCI. Oh well I hope it will be back on tomorrow.
Night guys.
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Post# 707-5/29/2001-21:04 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 KM dryer working (Thermostats and seals)
MESSAGE: That depends if you were running the dryer with no clothes or with clothes. The thermostats on an empty dryer will top off at about 150-155, the low heat thermostats top off at 140-150. The only way to really check the stat s to have a wet load in the dryer. Even a 5 degree swing is not that bad.
Every time I get a Kenpool dryer I take it all apart and clean everything. I also make new seals for the blower housing and air intake. You would not believe the difference in how fast it dries the clothes.
Jason
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Post# 708-5/29/2001-21:44 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 KM dryer working
MESSAGE: My 1960 WP dryer blows air around the lint filter and out the top filter door. I've thought of the closed cell foam, but since the filter must be removed and replaced, it is subjected it to constant back and forth friction (oh my!) The foam may not last for long mounted around the top of the filter in place of, or in conjunction with the existing worn felt seal. You could put the foam strips inside the filter sleeve, but the same wearing issues are present there too. The orginal felt seal is sandwiched between the handle plate and the filter pan and riveted into place.
I've come to the conclusion that a nice "day of the week" dishtowel folded and placed over the lint filter door solves the problem - and is pretty too!
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Post# 709-5/29/2001-21:45 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: How Does the Picture of the Day Work?
MESSAGE: I know it Greg and it's gonna be worth every sacrifice I'm having to make to do it. I'm just afraid in the excitement of the day, I may miss the POTD, which I love the surprises. It's a new way for me to become more enlightened & knowledgeable.
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Post# 710-5/29/2001-22:17 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Good Morning Down Under
MESSAGE: Hello Arrrooohhh, this wallpaper is made especially for you!
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Post# 711-5/29/2001-22:46 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (not positive)
MESSAGE: I'm not positive about the mechanics between the early Norge Filter-Agitators and the ones from the 70's Appnut, but they both sure did pump up a lot of water.
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Post# 712-5/29/2001-23:30 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 KM dryer working (lint screen seal)
MESSAGE: Greg, automotive/furniture upholstry supply stores have all kinds of cool felts and jutes in different thicknesses that would work just great. You could "dig" your old remaining felt out from its sandwhich mount, cut a rectanglular ring of the new felt, and push it back into place. If you really wanted to go crazy, you could go buy a cheapo rivet gun, drill out the rivets and do it that way.
Todd
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Post# 713-5/29/2001-23:37 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 KM dryer working (lint screen seal)
MESSAGE: The automotive felt is a great idea - will have to remember that. Someday, when I've nothing else to do....
I picked up some filters of this style from the parts shop I go to, so may have to play with some of those first. The one that's in the machine is in beautiful shape, except the felt seals.
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Post# 714-5/29/2001-00:00 ||| Arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Good Morning Down Under (Hooray!!)
MESSAGE: Thanx heaps Uni! You are a true legend!
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Post# 715-5/29/2001-00:06 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: More washers on the Web
MESSAGE: I found this link tonight looking for more info on the Canadian brand Beatty. Interesting article on the history of laundry and evolution to today's equipment. Of particular interest was the "spin cycle" section.
LINK: http://www.science-tech.nmstc.ca/english/collection/washing_machines.cfm
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Post# 716-5/29/2001-01:35 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the Day - Frigidaire with a lid lock! (Indexing tub)
MESSAGE: Hey guys. On Austrlian westinghouses, the indexing tub WAS promoted as a feature. It was called the "Double Wash Action"
I know beacuse those words with two arched arrows pointting the opposite direction were featured prominently on the control panel. My Aunty had one and I must admit, It was one of my favourote machines to watch.
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Post# 717-5/29/2001-01:37 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: I cant see any of my postings
MESSAGE: I posted three messages but I dont see them on the screen. Is that meant to be? Has anyone read them?
Thanx for your help.
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Post# 718-5/30/2001-02:16 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Signing In (keyplates)
MESSAGE: Louis
Thanks for showing us the pic, I think the keymatic was so ahead of its time in 1961, the first time I saw one was at a local convent, (no wasnt on the turn ha! ha!). Our school was run by local nuns and the Headmistress introduced a saturday morning garden club, pupils would attend and they got the hard work done for free and you learned about plants.
The garden store was next to the laundry and thats when I first saw one in action. From that point on was I the best gardener ever!!Every opportunity to was used to visit the store for a change of tools.
The Brit guys are busy trying to track one down at the moment and any literature. The bets are on to find out the following info on it:
Did the machine have two motors one for drum and one for wash paddle?? or a gearbox thingy?
What spin speed was it?? we thought about 740rpm as it was a few years later that Hoover made a marketing feature of the 800 rpm machines.
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 719-5/30/2001-02:17 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: More washers on the Web
MESSAGE: Greg, thank you for the link, that was quite interesting. I guess they forgot about the Frigidaire in the spin section. Louis
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Post# 720-5/30/2001-02:18 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: More washers on the Web
MESSAGE: That was pretty gool Ganski, but did you find anything on Beatty???
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Post# 721-5/30/2001-02:20 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: I cant see any of my postings
MESSAGE: Hitting the refresh button might help.
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Post# 722-5/30/2001-02:25 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Signing In (Big favour to ask you)
MESSAGE: Louis that is so cool! I love Keymatics and I have found some old pictures of the Keymatic,(which I will post ASAP) as well as a consumer magazine report from the sixites in which the Keymatic came equal first. I want to look for one of these machines one day when i get my own space.
Is it asking too much for you to scan the other pages from the manual????? Please??? Pretty Please????
If you do I will be eternally grateful for your kind deed.
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Post# 723-5/30/2001-02:25 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Signing In (keyplates)
MESSAGE: Mike, I'm sorry to disappoint you, the owners were frugal with the information, believe it or not, they didn't know a thing about it. Actually I was surprised they sent me the picture. So I can't tell you anything about two motors or a tranny and nothing about the spinspeed. Although I have been interested in washers all my life, I didn't know about the Hoover Keymatic. I don't think the Keymatic was sold that much overhere in the Netherlands. Perhaps a few were imported or perhaps this one came from a family that moved from the UK to here. Just guessing though. Louis
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Post# 724-5/30/2001-02:27 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (Your wash load?)
MESSAGE: I notice you wash a lot of flaneelette! Sorry for being nosy like that. Just be glad you dont live in Sydney as flannelette has very negative connontations.
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Post# 725-5/30/2001-02:30 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Signing In (Big favour to ask you)
MESSAGE: Well Harry Hoover, I'm sorry to disappoint you, the manual was scanned by the owners and they only sent me the frontpage by e-mail, so I have only the frontpage. I'm also sorry to tell you that I don't have their e-mail address anymore, so I can't ask them for the rest. Louis
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Post# 726-5/30/2001-02:40 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: Welcome
MESSAGE: I just saw Jeff 'Adelphi' signed up for this club and wanted to say welcome to him.
Jeff, I remember searching the mailinglists (now Yahoo groups) on appliances and found yours. It never got further than three members (it still exists!). You had the wonderful idea to start a club at Yahoo and it was the basis for a wonderful group of people that shares their interest and love for appliances. If I hadn't found your mailinglist then I might never have found the club. I just wanted to thank you here Jeff and hope you enjoy this site. Louis
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Post# 727-5/30/2001-02:43 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: Kelvinator song
MESSAGE: A wonderful new section Robert, the Vintage Appliance Audio section. I love the Kelvinator song. I guess it's too long to serve as a commercial? Was it on a promotion record?
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Post# 728-5/30/2001-03:20 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: More washers on the Web (Beatty's)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg, in 1874 the Beatty bros. (George and Matthew) formed a company in Fergus, Ont Canada that produced mainly farm equipment. By the 1930's, they expanded to produce over 600 items, including wringer washers. In 1969, shareholders amalgamated the Beatty co. with General Steel Wares, thus GSW Ltd. was formed. They contined to produce both wringer washers, automatic washers and dryers well into the late 70's or early '80's. A friend of mine has a late 40's Beatty wringer, and I have a '78 model as well as a 1958 pair of Beatty automatics. Here's a link to see the Beatty wringers.
Eddy
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/eddy1210/lst?&.dir=/Beatty+wringers&.src=ph&.view=t&.last=1
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Post# 729-5/30/2001-03:29 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Hoover VS Dyson vacuum cleaners
MESSAGE: Do you have Dysons in the States?
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Post# 730-5/30/2001-05:01 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT: RE: Hoover VS Dyson vacuum cleaners
MESSAGE: There are no Dysons in the states that im aware of. I'd never heard of them till someone in the club began talking about them.
SD
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Post# 731-5/30/2001-06:56 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (flaneelette??)
MESSAGE: Hi Arrrooohhh, what's flaneelette? I took another look at that picture and the only thing washed that was flannel was those pajama bottoms. It's way to warm here now to wear anything real flannel. What the connotation of flannelette in Sydney?
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Post# 732-5/30/2001-06:58 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome
MESSAGE: Welcome to the club Jeff. Does everyone realize that Jeff is John's brother, the John that lives across the street from Tomturbo.
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Post# 733-5/30/2001-07:00 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinator song
MESSAGE: Yes, that's exactly what it was on. I bought the record on ebay. The other side has a message for salesmen, which is just a scream. I will digitize that later on in the week.
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Post# 734-5/30/2001-07:05 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: More washers on the Web (Wrong Again)
MESSAGE: All my life I've seen information on the history of the washing machine, in print, in various forms and most of the time, its completely wrong! Here is just another example.
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Post# 735-5/30/2001-07:17 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the Day - Frigidaire with a lid lock! (Indexing tub)
MESSAGE: Many of the members of this club have a seething hatred of those Franklin design machines. Their reliability is terrible and although I haven't worked on one, I've heard many bad things from repair people. It would be fun to play with a vintage top loader of this style, but the new machines produced by White Consolidated Ind./Frigidaire/Electrolux in the States are mostly just junk.
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Post# 736-5/30/2001-07:23 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: More washers on the Web
MESSAGE: Not really. I was looking (usually in vain) to find out who made their automatics for them. It sounds like Beatty Brothers Company offered a wide range of products for the home and farm, but I was unable to nail down those appliances. It appears to me from looking at pictures of Eddy's Beatty washer that they are of Beam design. Mechanically, they bear striking resemblances to the first Hotpoints, Easy, among others that were produced (probably to spec.) by Beam. I also don't know much about the Beam company itself - would probably help to start there. Doing some work on the 1954 Speed Queen and studying repair manuals for SQ, early Hotpoint and Easy has sparked this interest. If anyone has more info, I'd appreciate some enlightenment! Thanks - Greg
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Post# 737-5/30/2001-07:27 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: More washers on the Web (Beatty's)
MESSAGE: I was studying your pictures of the Beatty (and that beautiful wringer washer) last night when I stopped working on my many projects for the evening. I was looking to see whose design that was - looks like the early Beam designs - or an adaptation of it.
Those machines are beautiful Eddy - what treasures!
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Post# 738-5/30/2001-07:28 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: More washers on the Web (Wrong Again)
MESSAGE: The author of the article holds a Masters degree - obviously not in "Research!"
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Post# 739-5/30/2001-07:34 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinator song
MESSAGE: You can hear the "WHOOSHES!"
I love it! Thanks Robert -
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Post# 740-5/30/2001-07:38 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 KM dryer working (Thermostats and seals)
MESSAGE: Speed is not a problem. Sheets were dry in two shakes of a lamb's tail, and most everything else in about 40 minutes. But while the clothes are wet/damp, they don't get hot, but when they dry, boy they could ignite. I really noticed it with my dress khakis. I had the temp set to Delicate, and when I went to check them at the 15 minute mark, they were scorching hot! Even after dialing the heat back to Air, they were still quite warm after the cycle was over...
-ph
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Post# 741-5/30/2001-07:46 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 KM dryer working
MESSAGE: Greg,
LOL! I'm using a tablecloth that I keep meaning to iron on top of the filter door! Actually, this dryer and the 1-18 next to it double as my "kitty watering" area - the place I give my 2 kidney failure cats their fluids and meds, so there's a thick, soft blanket on top of the dryer also.
-ph
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Post# 742-5/30/2001-07:47 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: More washers on the Web
MESSAGE: Are you sure about that Beam resemblance of the Beatty Greg? I think Beatty might have designed and produced their own machine. The pump is looks different as well as the transmission.
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Post# 743-5/30/2001-08:00 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator
MESSAGE: WOW! Robert, the way you can catch those splash shots you could have a great career working with the talent at Bel Ami, only the stroke is less predictable. I remember the salesman demonstrating that filter with pieces of Kleenex tissue that he threw into the washer. Norge was rated as one of the best cleaning machines by CU in 58 and was included with the Frigidaires in their follow-up report in 59 of the best cleaners one year later. Tom
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Post# 744-5/30/2001-08:06 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom's Unimatics (maybe, but)
MESSAGE: Never let it be said that Jason did not know how to put the screws to anything. Tom
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Post# 745-5/30/2001-08:09 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: More washers on the Web (Beatty-Beam)
MESSAGE: That pump is similar (with the clip/thumbscrew closure) to pics I have of the Easy, SQ & Hotpoint, but the transmission is different and there is no fluid drive clutch. Maybe Eddy can shed some light on this... I was interested after we talked about this machine in Rockford, but am unable to find any info. Do you have any early Beam info?
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Post# 746-5/30/2001-08:23 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD Hotpoint DW
MESSAGE: Bob, with this machine HP dws came in two styles, but the same motor. On top of the motor shaft there was either the impeller in the cheaper machines or a pump about the size of a bowl that fit in the same place. The pump was run at a slower speed (1400 or 1700 rpm) than a regular pump like in a KA which went at 3400 rpm. The wash arm was black plastic with wide slots since the "filter" was only the small holes on the underside of this sort of saucer-size pump. As for the orange sprayer, its water feed coupled much the same as the later towers in HP and WP dws to get the water from the center of the spray arm. I have a later model of this, but have yet to find the DW with the orange water disk. Tom
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Post# 747-5/30/2001-08:26 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator
MESSAGE: Yeah, but look at the size of the agitator compared to the size of the tub! It's no wonder Norge got good ratings, as clothes didn't stand a chance in there! I bet the only saving grace is that the vanes were rounded and so maybe a bit less harsh with less sharp edges. Putting jeans in the Norge would certainly be a harder wrestling match than the jeans in the Maytag AMP (Robert's short video).
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Post# 748-5/30/2001-08:27 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 KM dryer working
MESSAGE: Peter, because the old design dryer blew air through the filter instead of sucking it through like the newer design, the gasket at the top was important. Originally it was felt and wore out. You can still get a new filter. It is about $20 dealer cost. If you are good with tools, you can get the top part of the filter apart sometimes and glue new felt there and screw the thing back together. Tom
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Post# 749-5/30/2001-08:32 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD Hotpoint DW (Hotpoint's 1st)
MESSAGE: Peter, that was the way it filled. The corner spray replaced the round disk in the top center of the tank that had vanes on it and spun the water out across the racks. Tom
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Post# 750-5/30/2001-08:36 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the Day - Frigidaire with a lid lock! (Frigidaire with a lid lock)
MESSAGE: I think it would have been fine if it just kept to Westinghouse TL but the fact that WCI made it Frigidaire also is whats sux.
Peter
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Post# 751-5/30/2001-08:45 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: More washers on the Web
MESSAGE: Greg, they kinda didn't get it right with that bit about motor speed, did they? All it took was a tranny with an agitate shaft and a spin shaft. Shifting of the tub from the agitate shaft to the spin position via a pedal was shown on washers in the US in the late 30s. Granted the spin speed was not great and got things about as far from dripping as a wringer, but it was not motor speed that was the factor. Incidentally, that is not me in spin rinse/flapper mode. Tom
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Post# 752-5/30/2001-08:50 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (Your wash load?)
MESSAGE: You must give us all the dirt on flannel. Tom
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Post# 753-5/30/2001-08:55 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 KM dryer working (Thermostats and seals)
MESSAGE: Peter, it could be that the operating thermostat is not working at all and the dryer is cycling on the high limit thermostat. tom
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Post# 754-5/30/2001-09:01 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator
MESSAGE: Thanks Tom, it wasn't easy to catch those "splash shots" actually Tom. I must have taken 60 pictures and only a few them out the way I wanted. The problem is when you press the shutter button on the camera there is a slightly delay before the picture is taken, so I just had to keep snapping until I got one right in the middle of the "burp"!
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Post# 755-5/30/2001-09:43 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (lid logo?)
MESSAGE: Robert: does it say "safety spin" on the Norge lid? Is that a reference to a fast tub brake?
-ph
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Post# 756-5/30/2001-10:35 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator
MESSAGE: I'm glad we voted the Norge into the next video shoot!
-ph
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Post# 757-5/30/2001-11:12 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (lid logo?)
MESSAGE: Peter, it refers to the lid switch which prevents spinning when the lid is opened. Tom
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Post# 758-5/30/2001-11:37 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinator song
MESSAGE: That's great! Can't wait to hear the other side. I've got a Westy record I'll have to play now. That section of the site should be alot of fun. Time to get my dryer's music box working.
Todd
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Post# 759-5/30/2001-11:40 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator
MESSAGE: Ya Robert great job on the action shots. I know that's hard to do with the Sony's. My brother and I were trying to take some the other day and had to anticipate that delay. It seems like that kind of wash action would really do a good job cleaning.
Todd
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Post# 760-5/30/2001-11:57 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator
MESSAGE: That's the way most photographers do it.
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Post# 761-5/30/2001-12:42 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (lid logo?)
MESSAGE: Hi Peter, it does say saftey spin on the huge chrome lid handle, the tub-break stops the tub pretty fast, after the KER-KLUNK that is.
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Post# 762-5/30/2001-12:44 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinator song
MESSAGE: I have the Westinghouse Laundromat Record too Tood. Its on my list of "audio" to be digitized. That record came inside each and every brand new slant front westinghouse! It tells the user how to user their brand new Westinghouse Laundromat.
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Post# 763-5/30/2001-12:46 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (1954 CU Rating)
MESSAGE: The 1954 Consumer Reports rated the Norge Time-Line washer #1 because of its great cleaning ability. That article is another thing on the huge list of stuff I have to post to the club.
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Post# 764-5/30/2001-15:06 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hoover VS Dyson vacuum cleaners
MESSAGE: At this time we don't have Dysons, although there is talk about their soon to be sold under the "Fantom" name here in the states. To me, a Dyson looks just like a (past) Fantom, but according to the experts they are nothing a like, the Dyson being the far superior of the two. However, some patents are expiring or some such thing, and the newer models of "Fantoms" are apparently going to be more like a Dyson.
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Post# 765-5/30/2001-15:14 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (lid logo?)
MESSAGE: Which, I might add, was a $20 option on the Norge washer in the 1950s. Naturally, whoever purchased Robert's Norge originally wasted their $20 since this option has been retired from operation, LOL.
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Post# 766-5/30/2001-15:15 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (lid logo?)
MESSAGE: Robert, I didn't remember that your Norge had a tub brake. Not sure why I'm not remembering the sound. I thought maybe that didn't come til later, but I guess I remembered wrong!
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Post# 767-5/30/2001-15:48 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (KER-KLUNK)
MESSAGE: Oh no, the early Norges had an immediate KER-KLUNK sounding braking action. On the 18lb perforated machines they changed the design to allow the tub to coast to a stop without de-energizing the brake solenoid, so their was no KER-KLUNK at the end of spin unless of course you opened the lid during spin or during coast, then there was even a louder KER-KLUNK.
After a two minute period the timer would advance one increment and the brake solenoid was then de-energized, allowing the brake to engage, but with the tub stationary by this point, it was a much quieter klunk sound.
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Post# 768-5/30/2001-19:15 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Servis logo is now in Service!
MESSAGE: Thank you Mike of Chester for scanning and sending me the vintage Servis logo. I'm assuming the Servis company is from Great Britian, but I'm not positive about that? Could you tells us when this logo is from? Thanks again for the scan.
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Post# 769-5/30/2001-21:15 ||| Whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: Hello Everybody!
MESSAGE: Ok! I made it this far so I guess I did everything correctly! (lol)
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Post# 770-5/30/2001-22:18 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: More washers on the Web
MESSAGE: Hey Greg
Thanks for posting that link. Very interesting reading and some cool pictures, but also some inaccurate information...especially in the "spin cycle" section. The poor woman must have been on the moon throughout the fifties, when some of the most efficiently-spinning top loaders were produced.
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Post# 771-5/30/2001-22:22 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Hello Everybody!
MESSAGE: Hey Robert,
Glad you made it. How's everything?
Todd
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Post# 772-5/30/2001-22:27 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 KM dryer working
MESSAGE: And I've been told that was NLA - guess you can't always believe the first person you ask!
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Post# 773-5/30/2001-22:29 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinator song
MESSAGE: I loaded and loved side two also - I'm sold on Kelvinator for 1959, I can't wait till it gets here!
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Post# 774-5/30/2001-22:29 ||| Austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (say it isn't so...blasfemy!)
MESSAGE: Rated #1? Even above the "Laundry Twins?" Argh! How could anything wash better than a Westy Front Loader from the '50's?
Westy's are so good, they don't even need an agitator. Just some paddles, that great splashing in and out of the water, and most important, the firm, but gentle twisting & tangling action. : )
Todd
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Post# 775-5/30/2001-22:32 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: More washers on the Web
MESSAGE: I also find it interesting how many manufacturers claim to be the first in this technology or that. The spin cycle section cracked me up! Higher spin speed requires a two speed motor - her masters wasn't in engineering for sure!
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Post# 776-5/30/2001-22:35 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Hello Everybody!
MESSAGE: Hi Todd;
I'm fine and I hope you are doing well also!
Robert
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Post# 777-5/30/2001-22:35 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Hello Everybody!
MESSAGE: Welcome to our new home on the web - glad you found us again!
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Post# 778-5/30/2001-22:47 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hello Everybody! (Hi Robert!)
MESSAGE: Welcome to Applianceville. I'm so glad you've arrived too! Now its like we have most of our family all back together again, plus new additions!
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Post# 779-5/30/2001-22:48 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Hello Everybody!
MESSAGE: Yes; Thanks to Uni!
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Post# 780-5/30/2001-22:49 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (say it isn't so...blasfemy!)
MESSAGE: True Todd, we know that, but CU had other things on their mind, don't even get me started on their ratings with Frigidare. Wait till I post more of the Consumer Reports stuff, you won't believe some of their findings in the 40's and 50's.
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Post# 781-5/30/2001-22:51 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Hello Everybody! (Hi Robert!)
MESSAGE: Yes Robert,
I even got to use my favorite screen name! (lol)
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Post# 782-5/30/2001-22:57 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (flaneelette??)
MESSAGE: Well maybe everything looks like flannel when being sloshed around by the norge! The shirt pattens look like flannel, but maybe things are different in the states. Your westie type wears flannel, not that I am in a postion to be judgemental, being a near westie myself!!!
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Post# 783-5/30/2001-23:00 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (All Cotton Shirts)
MESSAGE: Hi Arrrooohhh, being a "westie" myself (both a westerner and a Westinghouse lover) I wear very little flannel. Those shirt actually have a flannel pattern look to them, but they are all 100% cotton.
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Post# 784-5/30/2001-23:39 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hello Everybody!
MESSAGE: We're so glad you're here Robert ! :)
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Post# 785-5/30/2001-23:42 ||| Whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Hello Everybody!
MESSAGE: Hi Scott;
I'm here!
Robert
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Post# 786-5/30/2001-23:59 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (flannelette . . . did I miss something?)
MESSAGE: So what exactly is the deal about flannel / flannelette being objectionable in some way?
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Post# 787-5/30/2001-01:51 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (Im almost sorry I started this.)
MESSAGE: we have been having this on going thing about "westies" with some friends on the email about this. When I logged onto this site, I carried the joke a little too far.
This is what a westy is stereotyped to be...
westie, also westy. Someone from Sydney's western suburbs, often used derogatorily to mean uneducated and/or uncultured. Also someone who acts like a westie. The jokes goes that the are usually called Sharon or Darren, wear tight bycycle shorts (for Shazza) and flanelette (for Dazza) They drive old Holdens or Fords and drink lots of beer. What annoys me is that people really DO get judgemental if they find out you are from the western suburbs.But there are degrees of it. To tell someone you are from Parramatta is okay. But to tell them you are from Bankstown is like saying you have leprosy! ANd if you are from Blacktown... The stereotype is alos very untrue.
Anyway the link below might be of interest to you.
A little bit of Sydney Sociology for you!
LINK: http://www.csmonitor.com/atcsmonitor/specials/oly2000/stories/sd1.html
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Post# 788-5/30/2001-01:52 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (Im almost sorry I started this.)
MESSAGE: flannelette is VERY comfortable by the way.
Not that I wear any. Just sleep on it on my sheets.
Great lint producer too.
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Post# 789-5/31/2001-06:35 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 KM dryer working
MESSAGE: Greg, there are several styles of this filter, but the one that fits my coppertone KM soft heat match-all with the short aluminum vertical panel across the back and the deep dish timer knob under the cover is still available. I am not sure that all of them are still available, but at least this one is. My parts guys said that they can take a while to get because WP waits until they have a sufficient number of requests before making another batch of them, but there were still available when I ordered mine. I also found one in a dryer where the owner had taken a piece of wood, cut to the proper size, glued the felt to it and put the whole thing back together with a little chrome handle and screws. It works fine in mine. Tom
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Post# 790-5/31/2001-06:37 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (say it isn't so...blasfemy!)
MESSAGE: Todd, be careful that your tongue does not poke a hole through your cheek. Tom
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Post# 791-5/31/2001-06:42 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: More washers on the Web
MESSAGE: Like when Maytag talked like they were inventing the H axis washer with the Neptune. They had an H axis cabinet washer back in the 30s themselves, but they probably did not check their archives. The also had the combo in the 60s. Dumb clucks. Tom
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Post# 792-5/31/2001-06:45 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Hello Everybody! (Hi Robert!)
MESSAGE: As in: Star of Stage, Screen and Television? Welcome back home. Tom
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Post# 793-5/31/2001-06:50 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (Sheets)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the link Arrrooohhh, Sydney looks very pretty. I want to visit Australia sometime. Here I thought you meant "westie" being a "westerner". By the way I love flannel sheets in the winter, jersey cotton sheets in the spring and fall and soft cool cotton sheets in the summer. The flannel sheets come out of the Frigidaire Filtrator consdener dryer, softer than anything you could ever imagine.
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Post# 794-5/31/2001-06:56 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinator song (3 Questions on side two)
MESSAGE: I found the three questions salesmen were told to give women to ask the other dealers about non-Kelvinator washers very interesting. Today, people are way too sophisticated, if a salesperson gave me three questions to asked another dealer I would look at the salesperson like he was nuts, but back then I bet many-a-woman would actually ask those questions.
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Post# 795-5/31/2001-07:00 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Servis logo is now in Service! ("
Servis Gene"
)
MESSAGE: Robert
Many thanks for installing the logo,Yep you are correct, Servis Domestic Appliance company produced their first machine in 1929 and marketed themselves as "The First All-Electric All-British Washing Machine".
They where totally British Design and Manufacture until 1991 when it was re-formed using the "Servis" identity only, cheap Italian products now. A sad demise of a Great British Tradition.
The scanned logo is from 1948 having not changed much from 1929 and until 1990 only the font style differed.
You would love some of the marketing campaigns over the years, I`m sure the marketing dept was full of Aunty Dots Boys!!!
Such as:
"How to get your man, for you, from Servis"
"He`ll give you a lifetime of service"
and of course the famous "Servis Gene" this hunk was splashed all over massive billboards in the 80`s , look for yourselves, he features in the current box office smash " Billy Elliot" with Jamie Bell & Julie Walters.
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 796-5/31/2001-07:07 ||| Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: wall paper
MESSAGE: Worthy Webmaster and Wizzard of Washing, I have a slight discrepancy with the date of the Frigidaire logos. You extend the old crown through 57, which is when the Sheer Look came in and the logo became streamlined and VERY high fashion, much like so many of us (wish we could be). Tom
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Post# 797-5/31/2001-07:09 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Servis logo is now in Service! (Servis Ads)
MESSAGE: Your very welcome Mike. It would be great to see some vintage Servis ads sometime. If you get a chance please scan some, especially ones from the 50's, and share them with the club!
Louis, did you ever post a Servis ad at one point? I can't find any in your Photo album, but I know this brand sounds very familiar from somewhere.
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Post# 798-5/31/2001-07:09 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: More washers on the Web (Maytag neptune)
MESSAGE: Really the tilted drum I thought Westy's were the ones first at a degree angle besides Degrees in my estimation are as follows
BS Bullshiters award
MB Master Bullshitter
PhD Pilled higher and deeper
We could put that women to shame and all get a Phd in Washing machine Philosophy and social impacts with our collective minds
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Post# 799-5/31/2001-07:09 ||| Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (Sheets)
MESSAGE: Robert, if you ever make the trip be sure to take the harbor bridge walk. Several friends have and loved it. Tom
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Post# 800-5/31/2001-07:11 ||| Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinator song (3 Questions on side two)
MESSAGE: But Robert, when was the last time you bought a NEW washer as opposed to finding a new washer. Tom
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Post# 801-5/31/2001-07:12 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: wall paper (The Royal Crown)
MESSAGE: Hi Tom, they started using the Sheer-Look Crown in the middle of producing the '57 Line. Then they put the Sheer-Look crown in a box over an F in '61. My Control Tower washer has the old 1947-1957 F flat crown, and Control Tower dryer has the Sheer Look crown!
So isn't this correct?
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Post# 802-5/31/2001-07:14 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinator song (found that intresting also )
MESSAGE: Frigidaire AD in the early 60's were no belts no gears no pulleys ... must have had lots of break downs back then I guess or bad gear ratio's .. but compared to todays machines they were built to last a little longer
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Post# 803-5/31/2001-07:15 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinator song (3 Questions on side two)
MESSAGE: Back then, nearly every machine was very different from it's competitor. Now we have 3 or 4 major brands that complete the washing and drying process virtually the same way. No more agitators with rings and wings, just a great big "screw" for the buying public!
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Post# 804-5/31/2001-07:15 ||| Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: More washers on the Web (Maytag neptune)
MESSAGE: There might be more than one or two who when fully dressed up could put any woman to shame, and some of us who no matter how we are dressed are just a crying shame. Tom
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Post# 805-5/31/2001-07:18 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinator song (Big Screws)
MESSAGE: You had me rolling on the floor laughing thanks for starting my day that way
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Post# 806-5/31/2001-07:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 KM dryer working (filter)
MESSAGE: I thought about taking the filter out and plugging the hole with something similar. I like the Bendix with no filter and since it's a very short run to the outside, the lint can just blow away. Of course, the way it's been raining here, lint would just float away. I sent out a dove to bring back an olive branch yesterday, but it's not back yet.
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Post# 807-5/31/2001-07:27 ||| Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: wall paper (The Royal Crown)
MESSAGE: Well, I only associated the old logo with the rounded appliances, but I am not an expert on this and the 57 pair in the collection have the newer F. So because of the box around the F and stuff, the years 57.5 through 59 are cast out wailing in the wilderness? I guess I will have to go home and take a closer look at my 58 babies with their intermediate F. I still consider the old logo to be more pre 57 than 57, but I will hold that inside and not make an issue of it. Tom
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Post# 808-5/31/2001-07:29 ||| Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinator song (3 Questions on side two)
MESSAGE: Greg, are you referring to the auger top agitators, or are you getting better servicing from your appliance dealers than I am? Tom
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Post# 809-5/31/2001-07:34 ||| Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 KM dryer working (filter)
MESSAGE: Greg, what I meant was that the owner had put the wooden top on the lint filter so that it sealed again as well as caught lint. It sorta modernizes the dryer to have a touch of wood grain on it, doncha think? Tom
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Post# 810-5/31/2001-07:59 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 KM dryer working (filter)
MESSAGE: Yeah, I knew the wood was on the filter, but I was going to use the wood to make a plug and forget about the filter - it's kind of fun having a "lint trail" coming out from the house. The wood grain touch would bring the dryer's look right up to 1970!
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Post# 811-5/31/2001-08:06 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinator song (Dealer Servicing - An Important Part of the Sale!)
MESSAGE: I used to know someone at the Mart with whom I got a number of great "deals," but he's no longer there and I've started "finding" all my new appliances anyway.
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Post# 812-5/31/2001-09:55 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 KM dryer working (filter)
MESSAGE: I don't have a filter in any of my dryers. It makes a big mess outside and most of the time I have to take the garden hose to get the dried lint off the sidewalk. But it is easier than cleaning the filter every time.
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Post# 813-5/31/2001-10:59 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (Im almost sorry I started this.)
MESSAGE: Well arrrohhh, not always for the same reasons you mention here, but in America there's a lot of that city vs. suburbs and vice versa going on as well. Guess it's a universal thing!
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Post# 814-5/31/2001-11:21 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinator song (3 Questions on side two)
MESSAGE: It's a very cute record and I enjoyed it very much. Probably not surprising to you I have a much different perception of it but I won't belabor the point, LOL. This would have been the first year I believe there were only Kelvinators and no ABC-o-Matics.
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Post# 815-5/31/2001-11:40 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Hello Everybody!
MESSAGE: Nice to have you here!
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Post# 816-5/31/2001-11:42 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinator song
MESSAGE: It's really wonderful. It reminds me of a record my grandfather had that promoted the Miele 505.
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Post# 817-5/31/2001-11:53 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Servis logo is now in Service! (Servis Ads)
MESSAGE: Robert, I never posted a Servis ad. I was unfamiliar with this brand until I came across the new Italian ones on a UK retail site. I mentioned Siltal a few times in connection to the Italian Kenmore frontloader Peter has. But I have no ads from either one of them. Louis
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Post# 818-5/31/2001-12:01 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 KM dryer working (filter)
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, we think you are very glad not owning a condenser dryer that blows the air right back into the house!
BTW ever considered putting one of your old nylons around the vent? Put only the first part around it and you have a bag that catches all the lint. Don't know about fire risks though.
QLOTOC
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Post# 819-5/31/2001-12:04 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (Im almost sorry I started this.)
MESSAGE: It sure is a universal thing, same thing can be said about the Netherlands. No flannelettes in my wardrobe!!
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Post# 820-5/31/2001-12:52 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: Inglis POTD
MESSAGE: Very cool! The "bodies" are clearly Whirlpool, but the control panel design is different and interesting. What model year is this? Looks like early- to mid-1970's.
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Post# 821-5/31/2001-12:53 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Maytag Club Chat Web Site
MESSAGE: Now this is an interesting Chat site (NOT), let's hope that our club never gets to be like this...
LINK: http://www.maytagclub.com/
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Post# 822-5/31/2001-12:54 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Inglis POTD
MESSAGE: I'd say about '74, that was my first big year as a kid for writing away to the appliance companies for brochures and information.
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Post# 823-5/31/2001-12:56 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Club Chat Web Site (I Forgot to mention)
MESSAGE: I forgot to mention to click on the "Maytag Club Chat" link!
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Post# 824-5/31/2001-13:34 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Hello Everybody!
MESSAGE: Robert: I'm GLAD you joined us HERE!
-ph
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Post# 825-5/31/2001-13:42 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Club Chat Web Site (one track club)
MESSAGE: That's what happens when you have a one track club with little to no moderation. Big !!! I wonder if the people who post on the club ever get responses? I wonder if because it is a brand name club, they are under some corporate scrutiny? I wonder if those club members turn their nose up at an AMP or a 102?
I'll stick to the automatics, thank you very much...
-ph
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Post# 826-5/31/2001-13:44 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Club Chat Web Site (BUG)
MESSAGE: Robert: the greater than and less than pointy bracket signs aren't working again. In my last post there's supposed to be the word "yawn" between the Big and the !!!
-ph
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Post# 827-5/31/2001-13:47 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Thanks for the wallpaper
MESSAGE: I can go to a wallpaper store and go thru books and books and not find a single thing I like. But here in this club, I can't decide on one! And they are so easy to change! Thanks so much, Mr. Web Man!!!
-ph
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Post# 828-5/31/2001-15:04 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 KM dryer working (filter)
MESSAGE: My first place "on my own" was a townhouse and my laundry room was underneath someone's living room. My old Speed Queen dryer blew a lot of lint into her little flower bed outside and she decided to put a knee high hose on the outside of my vent. When the dryer stopped in mid cycle, I went around to check out the vent, I found the knee high hanging there crammed with lint. I had no idea how long it was there, but we had a few words about overheating, lint back-up and possibly a fire under her living room and she decided the linty flower bed was the lesser of the evils.
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Post# 829-5/31/2001-15:10 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Club Chat Web Site
MESSAGE: Why don't we have theme music?
Did you see the post: "I hate your momma....." No replys to that one!
Thanks for the link - just shows what a great job you have done. I did notice you didn't add a link to this club - probably a good idea not to!
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Post# 830-5/31/2001-15:11 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Club Chat Web Site
MESSAGE: Well, the chatting is rather dry and the site itself is of course not nearly as fun as ours, but the cartoon section is kind of cute and there are some interesting Maytag facts in there. Kind of a one-track thing only being Maytag-oriented though, LOL.
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Post# 831-5/31/2001-15:12 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Thanks for the wallpaper
MESSAGE: Isnt that the truth? The wallpaper stores have so much it's just way too overwhelming for me.
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Post# 832-5/31/2001-15:19 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire Agitator Sprinklers
MESSAGE: There is a dutch auction of 5 of these on Ebay if anyone is interested in the 3 ring agitator clothes sprinklers. I wonder where s/he got 5 all at once?
Scott
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1150855976
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Post# 833-5/31/2001-15:31 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Agitator Sprinklers
MESSAGE: Just what I need - more crap to dust, but I put a bid in!
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Post# 834-5/31/2001-15:35 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Agitator Sprinklers
MESSAGE: Where did she get all five? Maybe from Mae in Creston, IA! I guess not, if she did get them from Mae, there'd be a $500 reserve!!
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Post# 835-5/31/2001-15:56 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Agitator Sprinklers
MESSAGE: Good! I know you enjoyed seeing mine. Hope you will win one for your nice collections!
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Post# 836-5/31/2001-15:58 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Agitator Sprinklers
MESSAGE: That's a good point. I asked Robert the other day what he thought of the person at the appliance store in Illionois vs. Mae. To be brief, he basically said there was no comparison at all, that he liked the Illinois person.
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Post# 837-5/31/2001-16:28 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Agitator Sprinklers
MESSAGE: Ray was very, very nice and glad to have all his things going to loving homes. I plan on working more on that SQ washer tonight, but am making steady progress on the new laundry room. I'm snapping pics as I go along to show the progression of this collector's illness!
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Post# 838-5/31/2001-16:39 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Club Chat Web Site (I thought I was ate up??)
MESSAGE: Please I hope we keep a very open appliance variance and intrest.
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Post# 839-5/31/2001-16:39 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Club Chat Web Site (BUG)
MESSAGE: Thanks peter, I've known that for a while, its on the list of things to fix. Its because HTML code uses those signs to open and close code commands. For now use something else, I'll get around to fixing that over the weekend.
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Post# 840-5/31/2001-16:40 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Thanks for the wallpaper
MESSAGE: My Pleasure, its all soooo much fun to do!
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Post# 841-5/31/2001-16:41 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Club Chat Web Site (my sentiments exactly)
MESSAGE: first time I meet them which was about a year ago very shall I say "pure" thanks peter you had me laughing
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Post# 842-5/31/2001-16:45 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Club Chat Web Site (Met them???)
MESSAGE: Hey Philippe, what did you mean by "met them"? Did you go to a Maytag Collectors Club Convention?
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Post# 843-5/31/2001-16:47 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Agitator Sprinklers (So did I that is great ... )
MESSAGE: I probably would have never found that ... Thanks so much
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Post# 844-5/31/2001-16:48 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Club Chat Web Site (no just in chat )
MESSAGE: Hey I use to work for Amway corp actually for the owners if that would have been an Amway convention and that still makes my skin crawl
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Post# 845-5/31/2001-16:49 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Agitator Sprinklers (ROFLMAO)
MESSAGE: you are just too funny small community huh ?
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Post# 846-5/31/2001-17:11 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Club Chat Web Site (I thought I was ate up??)
MESSAGE: We have always had a reputation of doing just that! It is so interesting to learn about what others like, and I am just continually learning new things about various appliances, how they operate and etc.!
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Post# 847-5/31/2001-17:11 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Club Chat Web Site (I thought I was ate up??)
MESSAGE: We have always had a reputation of doing just that! It is so interesting to learn about what others like, and I am just continually learning new things about various appliances, how they operate and etc.!
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Post# 848-5/31/2001-17:20 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 KM dryer working (filter)
MESSAGE: I would never do that Your Highness. You see, we removed the filters because we were tired of cleaning the filters. The length of the exhaust is less then a foot so there is not really a chance of anything clogging. I may however put a nylon on the dryer outside as it is blowing lint into the water collection pond and clogging up the pump I use to drain the pond into the flower beds. It is not fun reaching down into the yucky wash water to pull loads of lint and other junk out of the pump. Royalty should never have to do such a thing and I can not the help to do those things for me either.
QOTS
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Post# 849-5/31/2001-17:31 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Agitator Sprinklers (ROFLMAO)
MESSAGE: I was a small town, but this woman that Robert, Scott and I went to see was the wife of a long-time Frigidaire sales and service company. We got some good things, but I wanted to buy all the old service manuals, but she wanted $500 a set for them. I told her to take them to the landfill for that amount of money!
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Post# 850-5/31/2001-17:54 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Inglis POTD (timer discrepancy)
MESSAGE: Look at the timer on the dryer, and then at the one on the inset at the bottom. They are turned about 90° clockwise. Timed Drying is at the right side on the dryer, and at the bottom on the inset.
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Post# 851-5/31/2001-18:56 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Inglis POTD (timer discrepancy)
MESSAGE: The whole dial turns around on the timer shaft - only the indicator line is on the panel. In the top picture it looks like it's in the off position of the timed cycle, the bottom in the off position of the Regular auto-dry cycle. American models had little orange or red clips that were snapped onto the edge of the dial to mark your favorite settings. (Remember these Scott?)
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Post# 852-5/31/2001-20:12 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT: August "Convention"
MESSAGE: Hi all.
Could someone out there in "Applianceville" give me a brief repeat rundown of details for the getogether in August. A post number reference from the information on the Yahoo club site would do. Sorry, but I've yet to make my reservations. I will do it as soon as I get the phone number again.
I need the meeting dates in August, and the motel name and phone number please!
Thanks,
Ken
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Post# 853-5/31/2001-20:34 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Hello Everybody!
MESSAGE: Hi Peter;
Yes; I'm here! I like your Kenmore Wallpaper!
Robert
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Post# 854-5/31/2001-20:35 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Hello Everybody!
MESSAGE: Hi Louis;
Thank You!
Robert
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Post# 855-5/31/2001-20:38 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Hello Everybody! (Hi Robert!)
MESSAGE: Hi Tom;
Glad to be here!
Robert
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Post# 856-5/31/2001-20:44 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: display pics
MESSAGE: hi everyone - I got my pictures back on cd from my Maryland trip. I loaded them to my hard drive and able to display with viewpro software. When I try to create a link for the club to see them - ? I don't know how to create a URL & also name the link - someone please suggest.
Thanks
Peter
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Post# 857-5/31/2001-20:58 ||| Dan o (Ontario, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: display pics
MESSAGE: You will not be able to link to them on your computer from the Web unless you're running Web server software on your computer at home. It will also be difficult if you don't have a static (or semi-static in the case of cable) Internet connection.
If you can upload them to a server on the Web, then you'll be able to link to them.
Dan O.
BTW. Nice site here!!
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Post# 858-5/31/2001-21:06 ||| Dan o (Ontario, Canada)
SUBJECT: Forum Index (uni)
MESSAGE: Robert,
Is it possible to set up the forum index in a threaded style to ease the following of a single message? That's one of the reasons I don't frequent the Yahoo! forum much because I find it's a pain to navigate a single message from start to finish.
Just thought I'd ask.
Very nice site!
Dan O.
LINK: http://www.classicappliances.com/
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Post# 859-5/31/2001-21:23 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: display pics (Pics continued )
MESSAGE: Well it looks like I am going to have more trouble than I thought because when I tried to open pics from hard drive pc freezes - so looks like I am out of luck for now - but I will continue to investigate
Peter
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Post# 860-5/31/2001-21:27 ||| nmaineman36 (Portland Maine)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire washer belt change
MESSAGE: Well hello everyone. Love the new club. Greg the most unimaginable thing happened last night....the belt on my washer broke during a load of towels. I went and got a new belt for 8 bucks and started talking the hoses off the pump and I can tell you that the clamps and the pump ports are not exactly user friendly. And so I could not get to the clamps as easy as I wanted to so i decided like an idiot to take the suspension springs out and twist the wash system to me so i could remove the clamps. I finally got the clamps off the ports of the pump and the hoses. The belt slipped on the pulleys fine and I tightened the belt as in the tech talk manual. Thats all fine...ran my happy ass to Home Depot and bought new screw on clamps so if I have to change this again and I hope the hell not it would be easier.
Now I am havinga bitch of a time with the springs especially the left one.I cant get it in the hole and I tried everything I could think of to get it in there. So I think I going to go to Home Depot again and get a couple of heavy duty hooks and screw those in to replace the closed eye hooks thats there now.
I thought that it would be a 20 minute job but nooooooo!
Mike
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Post# 861-5/31/2001-22:03 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire washer belt change
MESSAGE: Welcome Mike! I was wondering where you were, now I know!
Congratulations on your first repair - now you know why we LOVE our machines! Can't help not loving them when you chase all over for parts and supplies, spend hours dis-assembling, fixing, re-assembling, dis-assembling, fixing what you messed up, re-assembling and through all of this, you end up falling deeper in love with a harvest gold appliance that 99% of the world would have sent to the Krusher and replaced with a brand spankin' new poly tub machine! Welcome to the collector's circle!
BTW: The manual says that when you re-assemble (after centering adjustments are made) these springs, you need to put a drop of blue Loctite on top of the nut. Now take your happy ass back to Home Depot and get some of that!! Enjoy your machine!
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Post# 862-5/31/2001-22:12 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: August "Convention" (414)
MESSAGE: Post 414 here in Applianceville has this information Ken.
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Post# 863-5/31/2001-22:13 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: display pics
MESSAGE: You need to upload your picts to Yahoo Photos Peter.
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Post# 864-5/31/2001-22:15 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Forum Index (uni)
MESSAGE: Hi Dan welcome. While we prefer the more conversational style posting, you can certain achieve the threaded style by using the Applianceville archives. Simply go into the archives and search for the Subject Name of the thread you want to read.
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Post# 865-5/31/2001-22:15 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire washer belt change
MESSAGE: Hey Mike, nice to see you here. There is no such thing as a 20 minute job with these washers!
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Post# 866-5/31/2001-22:18 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Thank You Scott!
MESSAGE: For typing up instructions to use Applianceville. You will all see them you when first come into the club.
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Post# 867-5/31/2001-22:22 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire washer belt change
MESSAGE: I'm thinking about the using hooks instead of eye bolts for those springs..... I'm wondering if you can test this with an off balance load before running a load through it. Watch the tub spring hooks - wouldn't want it to unhook during a full load and have that tub of water slamming around.
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Post# 868-5/31/2001-22:29 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Thank You Scott!
MESSAGE: Very nice work guys!
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Post# 869-5/31/2001-22:30 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Inglis POTD (goofy in the head)
MESSAGE: Oh, geeze. I knew that. It just didn't strike me that way at first, because the dial doesn't look transparent for the pointer to show through, which apparently it isn't. The inset picture would, of course, be turned to better show the auto cycles, since that's what it is touting.
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Post# 870-5/31/2001-22:30 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Thank You Scott!
MESSAGE: YAY. You're very welcome. I'm glad I was able to do a little something to help!
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Post# 871-5/31/2001-00:13 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: ...So Easily Acheived With a Blackstone.
MESSAGE: Just had to see this wallpaper!
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Post# 872-5/31/2001-01:44 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Club Chat Web Site (what a dull site)
MESSAGE: Tha cartoons sure were a laugh, NOT!
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Post# 873-5/31/2001-01:52 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Club Chat Web Site (I thought I was ate up??)
MESSAGE: I agree. This site and the yahoo site have discovered so many things I never knew about before.
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Post# 874-6/1/2001-07:00 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Club Chat Web Site (but there is some good info)
MESSAGE: They do have a page with some good vintage part finding information, here is a copy of the most important info from it.
BTW, I've used the Parts Hotline and on occassion I have success:
Parts Hotline
PO. Box 677391, Orlando, FL. 32867
Ph. 407-658-0730
Fax 407-658-0064
Specializing in locating obsolete OEM parts through a servicing network of dealers throughout the U.S.
Macy's Stove Works
5515 Almeda Road, Houston, TX. 77004
Ph. 713.-521-0934
Fax 713-521-0889
Specializing in NLA range parts and restorations of older appliances.
H.T Smith: 588 South Cooper Street, Memphis, TN. 38104
Ph. 901-274-7589
Fax 901-272-3909
Specializing in rebuilding range thermostats and pilot valves. They do not stock parts.
A-1 Stove Hospital: 118 East Florence Avenue, Los Angeles, CA. 90003
Ph. 213-581-8251
Fax 213-751-2330
Specializing in range restoration and the stocking of obsolete parts.
Dixie Precision: 830 9th Street South, Jacksonville Beach, FL. 32250
Ph. 904-241-8136
Fax 904-246-1199
Specializing in rebuilding range thermostats.
J.E.S. Jack Santoro: p.o. box 65, Ventura, CA. 93002
Ph. 805-643-3552
Specializing in old parts for all old appliances, washers and dryers.
Mid West Timer Service, Inc P.O. Box 126, Benton Harbor, MI 49023
800-253-7260 Or visit there web site http://www.m-t-s.com/
Specializing in new, remanufactured, and repaired timers.
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Post# 875-6/1/2001-08:52 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Forum Index (uni)
MESSAGE: Dan,
You can follow the "thread" of the posts by clicking on blue link in the post at the bottom of the screen, just like in Yahoo. Your message should be under this one on this screen in a box. The post number should be in blue. Click on that, and you can work your way backword. I don't know if Robert has a "view all responses to this post" like Yahoo on his plate, as we've given him soooooo many ideas to work on!
-ph
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Post# 876-6/1/2001-08:58 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Recycle guy comes thru...
MESSAGE: Got a call from the appliance recycling guy yesterday. He has 2 stoves for me to look at. I thanked him and reminded him that I'm laundry and not really cooking, but I'll come by for a look. Then he says "I just got a 1953 Kenmore washer, but I wasn't going to keep it because I know you want Frigidaire." So after getting Jason's 1972 washer out of the car last night, I'm going today to see the stoves and this washer that I don't want! Look for pics tomorrow when I'm on my laptop...
-ph
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Post# 877-6/1/2001-09:01 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: ...So Easily Acheived With a Blackstone. (really now, who was first?)
MESSAGE: The earliest dates that I've seen for an automatic washer were the 1938 ads for Bendix, and I know that 1947 after the War was the big time for the introduction of automatic washers, but who really had the first one out? For the international experts out there who know for their area, we can keep it catagorized by country/continent...
WHAT WAS THE FIRST START-TO-FINISH AUTOMATIC WASHER?
-ph
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Post# 878-6/1/2001-09:32 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Bendix POTD
MESSAGE: Those cube P-B/Dexter machines are a dime a dozen down here! Lots of older 'mats have them. Does anyone here have any memories of them? We had a 'mat on the north end of my home town with them. There was a little pull lever under the coin slide to bypass the prewash. You'd have to start the washer, then pull the lever. I never seemed to see it work right, but then the laundry was never that busy.
-ph
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Post# 879-6/1/2001-10:53 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix POTD
MESSAGE: The Philco Bendix in the picture dates from 1957 if you do the math like I did, but I probably did it wrong, just like on the SATs. They are like the machines in the coin laundry we started using for the throw rugs after getting the 58 LK, except that those were not the Double Load machines although you could find lots of what would later be called double wides using them. The ones we used had the lights for soak, wash, rinse and small off-white knurled knobs with a red line on them for temperature and it seems that there were two, one for wash and one for soak/rinse, but maybe not. They were replaced with AWFUL coin-op Maytags very much like my poor A102. Tom
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Post# 880-6/1/2001-11:12 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 KM dryer working (filter)
MESSAGE: Oooh, I get the picture, it's indeed not a very Royal task to put your just manicured hands into the pond. Yukkie.
QLOTOC
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Post# 881-6/1/2001-11:19 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Thank You Scott!
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, thank you for typing the instructions. If we didn't know you were Royalty we would think you have many years of experience in wordprocessing and saying things in good language.
QLOTOC
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Post# 882-6/1/2001-11:20 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Recycle guy comes thru...
MESSAGE: Peter wouldn't a 1953 Kenmore be cool for your collection???
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Post# 883-6/1/2001-11:24 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: ...So Easily Acheived With a Blackstone. (really now, who was first?)
MESSAGE: In the US, Bendix introduced their Automatic Washer for home use in 1938. I question that POTD claim about 1932 for commercial use, because the timer patents happend about 1936. They might have used some sort of manually operated front loader, that you manually shifted from fill to wash to drain to spin.
It would really be interesting to find out the real truth, once I post all the CU reports from 1940 you guys will clearly see the history that is laid out in these report.
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Post# 884-6/1/2001-11:26 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix POTD
MESSAGE: I found two of those commercial Bendix machines a few years ago with the pull lever bypass switch. I gave them to Bendixboy 1956 and he restored them by taking the best parts of both and making one really good machine. At some point I will get over to his house and take pictures of his really cool stuff.
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Post# 885-6/1/2001-13:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Recycle guy comes thru...
MESSAGE: I would think so too! I think you should have this Peter!
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Post# 886-6/1/2001-13:32 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix POTD (Hard or Soft?)
MESSAGE: Were these bolt down (hard-mount) machines?
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Post# 887-6/1/2001-15:05 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Thank You Scott!
MESSAGE: Thank You, Your Majesty! We apologize for our tardiness in answering your most recent correspondence, but we shall strive so to do over the weekend.
QEOM
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Post# 888-6/1/2001-17:09 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Recycle guy comes thru...
MESSAGE: But I do have it now!
-ph
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/vwp?.dir=/Yahoo!+Photo+Album&.src=ph&.dnm=%2753+Kenmore.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/lst%3f%26.dir=/Yahoo!%2bPhoto%2bAlbum%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 889-6/1/2001-17:10 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix POTD (probably soft)
MESSAGE: These were probably soft mount, as they were basically the home washer with a coin slide...
-ph
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Post# 890-6/1/2001-17:12 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: stoves everywhere
MESSAGE: Not only did Billybob's have that beautiful Frigidaire and Kenmore stoves for me, but I had 2 messages on my answering machine from people with old stoves that don't want to throw them out and want them to go to a good home! Where in heavens name are these things coming from? I'm laundry, not cooking! Is someone above trying to tell me something?
-ph
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Post# 891-6/1/2001-17:17 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: more of today's finds
MESSAGE: Steve 1-18: I found 2 more '66 LK dryers today, both were gas, one white and the other avocado green. The sensors are in the drum, 3 of them, long rectangular sensors between the lifting fins.
Jason: I found another window-dial KM dryer, this one coppertone, in slightly better shape than the white one here. I think one trip up here will not be enuf!!! Can you come up this weekend? (just kidding!)
I didn't get pics of these (damn 4mb memroy stick), but if you didn't page forward in the link I posted, please go back and do so to see some more stuff (like the magnificent Frigidare range!)
-ph
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Post# 892-6/1/2001-17:21 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: ...So Easily Acheived With a Blackstone. (really now, who was first?)
MESSAGE: Yeah, but the text says "self service 'drop-off'" which is kinda mutually exclusive. So maybe a semi-automatic version was available in the traditional laundries where orders were dropped off in '32, but then coin-op true self-serv was later, maybe in '38.
Either way, the standard model that is pictured, is that an earlier model or later model than the standards that Greg, Buick and I have?
-ph
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Post# 893-6/1/2001-17:24 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere
MESSAGE: There are a billion old stoves out there - you get half and I get half! That's all the calls I get too! I had a call the other day from the community playhouse wanting a 30" gas range from the 50's, I told her to check the thrift stores and I believe she found one there.
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Post# 894-6/1/2001-17:39 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (Very nice KM! )
MESSAGE: That '53 Kenmore is beautiful - what a beauty she will be restored to "catalog showroom new." Congratulations!
I think you may want to hold out for an even MORE magnificent Frigidaire range - this one is very cool, but if you wait for a bit, you will get one in yellow, pink or turquoise that really will make your heart flutter. In the meantime, you can upgrade to a 50 amp circuit, and convert that carport into a laundry room! I spent three hours today running two 30 amp lines for dryers into the new laundry room. What a pain - but it will be worth it.
What a terrific connection you've made with BillyBob!
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Post# 895-6/1/2001-18:04 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the Day - Frigidaire with a lid lock! (original "
westinghouse"
top loaders...not WCI)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg
Reading Aarroouugh's post about the Westy tops reminded me that the original Westinghouse top loaders were fun to watch. The original design had a black plastic swirl vane agitator with a big "W" on the top. When the water level was set at a little below maximum, there was a lot of water drama with the sloshing sound of the agitator, the recirculating lint filter and the indexing ribbed tub. It actually had a decent wash action with that agitator. Those machines also had a spin-drain, although the RPM's weren't impressive...about as fast as a belt drive WP/KM. The tranny may have been cheap, but it was entertaining. CR even rated those early top loaders (mid 60's) pretty highly (if that's worth anything).
I think when WCI took over Westinghouse things got worse and worse and cheaper and cheaper until you end up with the WCI brands of disposable top loaders one finds today.
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Post# 896-6/1/2001-18:12 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (Very nice KM! )
MESSAGE: Greg,
If I added a 50 amp circuit for the stove, then there would only be 10 amps left for the rest of the house! Not to mention the fuses popping! No, I'll have to wait until I get the electrical service upgraded and the house rewired. And that probably won't be until I get the house replumbed. sigh! The joys of owning an old house...
-ph
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Post# 897-6/1/2001-18:31 ||| nmaineman36 (Portland Maine)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire washer belt change
MESSAGE: Oh nice well I didnt put the Locktite on it but I will get some this weekend. I figured out that I had to take the top off the washer and I tilted the mechanism enough that I was able to hook the springs back in. Phew! what I struggled with for over 3 hours last night took me 5 mins this afternoon. I remembered what my Maytag manual said to do when rehooking the springs and I figured why not it should work for the Frigidaire and it did. The belt to the washer is different from the original...more of a cog type than flat.
Now the washer runs like a charm and spins much faster than before. I had to run to Portland to get the belt because the dealer in Saco said to me that I should replace the washer since there was no belts available. Yeah right! But a new agitator for the washer I found out can cost 50 bucks or more. OUCH!! So now I am very sore all over ..my arms hurt and my hands and so do my legs and my butt. I can say that if I have to work on it again it wont be soon.
Mike
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Post# 898-6/1/2001-18:32 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Agitator Sprinklers
MESSAGE: Thanks for the link, Scott...I put a bid in too. I've tried to get one of these before and they always sell sky-high. Good luck to us all.
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Post# 899-6/1/2001-19:04 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Recycle guy comes thru...
MESSAGE: Hi Peter
That is a cute Kenmore...I've never seen one like that with only one selection dial on the left. All the models I've seen have two dials or push buttons. Is the selector for water temp or water level? Does it have the Roto-Swirl agitator? Enjoyed all of your pictures. You have a very beautiful, lush home.
Rich
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Post# 900-6/1/2001-19:06 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Recycle guy comes thru... (YAY YAY YAY)
MESSAGE: WOW, way to go Peter!!! The '53 Kenmore is BEAUTIFUL, I'm talking to Jetcone on the phone right now and we both green with envy over your new vintage find. How about some interior shots of the Kenmore Please???
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Post# 901-6/1/2001-19:06 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Recycle guy comes thru...
MESSAGE: COnfgratualions onyour find! I love recyclers! Uni and I are talking right now on the phone while I type this! We love that machine!
Jetcone!! Can;t to meet you at the convention!
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Post# 902-6/1/2001-19:07 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix POTD (probably soft)
MESSAGE: No, all Bendix coin-op machines are bolt-down machines.
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Post# 903-6/1/2001-19:12 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: ...So Easily Acheived With a Blackstone. (its the first)
MESSAGE: That picture is showing the very first Bendix Home Automatic Washer from 1938. John Lefever has one in John & Tom's pictures.
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/tomturbomatic/vwp?.dir=/3+-+Collection+at+John%27s+Maryland+House&.dnm=Very+First+1938+Bendix.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 904-6/1/2001-19:23 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: ...So Easily Acheived With a Blackstone. (1938 Bendix)
MESSAGE: I spoke with Kennth O. Sisson who was working with Mr. Chamberlin & Mr. Basset on the development of the Bendix Machine. And He told me that the first attempts on development were happening around 1935 when Mr.C & Mr.B approached Bendix with the idea of making a home laundry washer.
Uni and I are questioning that whole statement about the machine existing in 1932, which you can see on the picture of the day till midnight!
Jet
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Post# 905-6/1/2001-19:32 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Burp-a-lator Filter Agitator (KER-KLUNK)
MESSAGE: Robert, our 1964 DispensoMat also had coasting. It was one minute timer increment after the first & second spins. I would imagine this sequence was standard operating proceedure for all Norge perforated washers, the 15, 16, and 18 pound varieties.
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Post# 906-6/1/2001-19:37 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Hello Everybody!
MESSAGE: Welcome back Brooklyn Robert and the few others that signed up since my last viewing of posts on the 29th. Have not had much time do perusee the postings. But I'm catching up.
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Post# 907-6/1/2001-19:55 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Signing In (Keymatic Tale)
MESSAGE: Hi Mike, this is Jetcone over the pond in Boston. I have a Keymatic tale for you. I was visiting a friend in London who had spent the year assisting a woman actress there in 1976. She had a huge old house on the Isle of Wight left to her by her MP husband. We went down for the weekend, it was March. They had a stream running across the property in which cressies grew that I picked for salad. We had to do some sheets for the bedding since we were opening up the house after winter. The washer was in the kitchen. At first glance I thought it was a Bendix because it was square and had a glass door. I loaded up the machine and tried to turn it on but couldn;t find the timer dial. I searched and searched, finally I had to intrude on my friend who was deep into getting dinner ready for a party that night in the house. [We were to serve and cook for our keep.] She said it was a red flat key ontop of a shelf.I went back to the machine and above on the shelf was a red square key--heavy thing! Embossed on each edge was a cycle name. I inserted the key into a flat slot on the upper right and bingo the machine took off. I'll bet that machine is still sitting there. But it didn't look at all like the machine Louis posted up with the slant front. It looked like a very old flat front Bendix with a glass door. I never looked inside to see if there was a counter rotating disk in back, I just thought it was a regular tumbler. Uni is ready to kill me.
Hope you find one soon so we can see it again!
Welcome to applianceville!
Jon/Jetcone
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Post# 908-6/1/2001-20:35 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the Day - Frigidaire with a lid lock! (original )
MESSAGE: I got some repair publications from our trip to Rockford that were for some of the 60's Westy top loads. They are very neat looking machines and it would be fun to play with one - I love the ramp agitators. Robert got one of the blue ones that has the smaller "delicate" agitator underneath when we were in Rockford - I'll bet they do move some water around.
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Post# 909-6/1/2001-20:38 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: ...So Easily Acheived With a Blackstone. (1938 Bendix)
MESSAGE: Even in some other vintage advertising, Bendix says it was 1937 when they took the first machine to county fairs and such to promote the idea. People probably thought they were "talking out of their hats" when that hawker extolled the virtues of automatic washers!
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Post# 910-6/1/2001-21:38 ||| steved (Albany NY)
SUBJECT: Philco washer
MESSAGE: Hi everyone, I saw an ad for a "Philco Washer & Maytag Dryer - both work fine $75.00". They are located in Philmont, NY, on the CT-NY border. Maybe it's an Automagic? I am not interested, but maybe someone out there is. The phone # is 518-672-5232, from the "WantAd Digest"......SteveD
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Post# 911-6/1/2001-21:51 ||| nmaineman36 (Portland Maine)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer
MESSAGE: Oh gawd I didnt need to know that!!!! Now I am getting my gears turning and wondering if I should get the washer and dryer. Oh man I would love to have a Philco washer ..very rare and hard to find. I dont need another washer I am telling myself but the other part of me says yeah why not! I feel like you know in a Tom and Jerry cartoon where Jerry has the devil on one side and the angel on the other telling him what he should do. The devil says sure why not..drive on down there and get it. The angel says no Mikey you dont need the washer and dryer because you already have 2 of each. What am I gonna do!
Mike
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Post# 912-6/1/2001-21:58 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer
MESSAGE: Mike are there basements in Maine? :-) Scott
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Post# 913-6/1/2001-22:00 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Recycle guy comes thru...
MESSAGE: Hey Rich,
I thought Robert had one like this, or maybe it's his slimline 24" one. It has one cycle with a 20 minute wash. The little selector is for the water temps -- hot, medium, warm. It has a RotoSwirl with a blue/white speckled tub. It's by far the heaviest machine I've handled! The agitator does not turn, and there is a fair amount of rust around the bottom of the cabinet. It'll be a challenge!
-ph
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Post# 914-6/1/2001-22:02 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Recycle guy comes thru... (YAY YAY YAY)
MESSAGE: Not a problem, Robert. Now that I have room on my little 4mg memory stick, I'll take more pics tomorrow during my off hours!
-ph
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Post# 915-6/1/2001-22:06 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer (Let Me Help)
MESSAGE: Hi Mike, I know this must be a tough decision for you. After all, I've only seen one Philco flap-o-matic washer in my life and I drove back 12 hours round-trip the next weekend to go back and pick it up after deciding what-to-do-what-to-do??? Of course you might find another Philco sometime, someplace in the not-too-distant future, just like the time I won the million dollar lotto two weeks in a row! LOL
Here maybe this link might help...
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/philcobendix/vwp?.dir=/Philco+Automagic+Action+Shots&.dnm=Low+water+wash.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 916-6/1/2001-22:07 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: ...So Easily Acheived With a Blackstone. (1938 Bendix)
MESSAGE: I kinda always thought Bendix was first, but then Blackstone and our good friends at Servis claim to be the first. Maybe Blackstone was the first top load automatic? Let's get the facts straight!
Maybe we should have a FAQ page for the major questions and answers. Oh Robert!!!! Another one for your list...
-ph
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Post# 917-6/1/2001-22:08 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer
MESSAGE: If indeed it is an Automagic, there is no question - you must have it... If it's a regular agitator washer, but still a Philco, you should still have it even if you don't intend on keeping it - would be fun to play with. Do you have a garage?
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Post# 918-6/1/2001-22:13 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer (what are you going to DO?!?!?!?)
MESSAGE: Mike,
What do you mean, "what are you going to do?" Are you daft, man!!! We'll all tell you what you are going to do, young man! You're going to get your happy butt in your truck/van and GO GET IT!!!! It's a Philco!!! go mike go mike go mike go mike goooooooo!!!!!!!!!
-ph
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Post# 919-6/1/2001-22:13 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer (Let Me Help)
MESSAGE: (sigh) This is one of the coolest washers - Mike you must go pick up that Philco - the Maytag dryer probably isn't a "collector's item," you can sell that or Krush it. If it's like the one in the Pic of the Day button photo, you must have that too!
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Post# 920-6/1/2001-22:19 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer (uh oh)
MESSAGE: What a horrible thought I just had. In one of my boxes of parts that I got off eBay, there's a WCI bag with all the WCI brand on it. Philco is one of them. What if this machine is a WCI Philco? I'd have to kill someone. Mike, you better call before you go...
-ph
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Post# 921-6/1/2001-22:25 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Recycle guy comes thru... (Baby Kenmore)
MESSAGE: No Peter, my '53 Kenmore is the 24" model. Don't worry about the agitator not turning, it could just be in gear. You can get all the parts you need for this machine, so its a cinch to rebuild. As a matter of fact, on Monday, I'm going to start rebuilding my 1952 Whirlpool and I will take extensive pictures of the restoration. This will be my last major restoration before the convention. But the '52 Whirlpool will be almost identical to '53 Kenmore. These machines are about as vintage as they come, underneath there are many difference, even compared to the '57 Lady. Here is a shot of my '53 Baby Kenmore, you can see its very different...
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/unimatic1140/vwp?.dir=/Kenmore&.dnm=1953+Kenmore+-+1st+24+Washer.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 922-6/1/2001-22:26 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer (uh oh)
MESSAGE: I don't think Philco ever made a WCI/Franklyn top loader. Does anyone else ever remember seeing one???
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Post# 923-6/1/2001-22:27 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer (uh oh)
MESSAGE: A WCI Philco???? Shameful
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Post# 924-6/1/2001-22:37 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer (uh oh)
MESSAGE: I think the Philco laundry appliances went away when Ford Motor Co. still owned Philco. Perhaps Westinghouse made Philco other things but not laundry appliances? Still, wouldn't hurt to check before one drives any distance...
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Post# 925-6/1/2001-22:50 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer (uh oh)
MESSAGE: True, true, but then so is a Westinghouse Frigidaire or a Westinghouse Kelvinator, and that didn't seem to stop them. :-(
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Post# 926-6/1/2001-23:11 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Recycle guy comes thru... (KM bolt down)
MESSAGE: Robert,
What's the status of you KM bolt down. Those old pics of it disassembled make me think you have it running by now, but I don't remember hearing...
-ph
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Post# 927-6/1/2001-00:17 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Recycle guy comes thru... (KM bolt down)
MESSAGE: The centerpost was in such bad shape that its up in the attic for parts in case I find another one.
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Post# 928-6/1/2001-00:37 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer ((go for it))
MESSAGE: Mikey
I'll play devil's advocate here...go for the automagic, if that's what it is. Who knows when you'll find another, especially one that runs. It could be a Philco front loader too... At least check it out and report back to us.
Rich
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Post# 929-6/1/2001-00:44 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: ...So Easily Acheived With a Blackstone. (1938 Bendix)
MESSAGE: That's a great idea, Peter. We need a fact sheet of the history of the automatic washer. Let's see...Bendix was the first automatic, Westinghouse had the first "soft mount" machine with a suspension system, Blackstone was the first agitator washer, now who had the first lint filter? GE? The first two speed? (There were two-speed wringer washers before there were even automatics.)
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Post# 930-6/1/2001-00:57 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer ((Westy Kelvinator???))
MESSAGE: Hi Scott
I've never seen a Westy Kelvinator. I know that WCI made the Westy inside/Frigidaire outside abomination, but all the WCI Kelvinators I've ever seen have the Franklyn stlye innards and agitator. Do you remember after a few years of having Westinghouse-style insides, WCI turned our Frigidaires with Franklyn-style insides? They really dragged "Frigidaire" through the mud! Eventually, WCI inbred all it's brands until we have the mutants of today.
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Post# 931-6/1/2001-00:59 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Thank You Scott!
MESSAGE: Your Majesty,
Like ever we are looking forward to your correspondence.
QLOTOC
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Post# 932-6/1/2001-01:07 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Recycle guy comes thru...
MESSAGE: A real fifties washer you found there Peter, very nice. I see now what the room problem is.
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Post# 933-6/1/2001-01:09 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere
MESSAGE: I don't want to sound like my mother, but are you eating properly every day?
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Post# 934-6/1/2001-01:26 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere
MESSAGE: Bear in mind, Your Majesty, that the Queen Mum has only your best interests in mind!
We are happy to report we have duly completed and sent our latest correspondence to you, including some new family pictures!
QEOM
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Post# 935-6/2/2001-02:28 ||| Miss jet cone (HOPKINS ,MN)
SUBJECT: the new web site
MESSAGE:
Hello to all. I just wanted to say hi and say that
I love the new site. you guy did a excelent job !!
Miss jet cone
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Post# 936-6/2/2001-03:29 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer (Philco-Snatched!!!!)
MESSAGE: Miker if you don't go get it I will! Hows that for motivation?
Jetcone
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Post# 937-6/2/2001-05:57 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Recycle guy comes thru...
MESSAGE: Great pictures, Peter! Those Kenmores (72's) are great. So is the '53. Guess the car has been displaced!
Steve 1-18
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Post# 938-6/2/2001-05:59 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: more of today's finds
MESSAGE: OOOOOOOOH. Am I going to have to make a trip out, today?
Will call you later.
Steve
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Post# 939-6/2/2001-09:39 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: the new web site
MESSAGE: Hi Miss Jet Cone! Welcome to the club, we look forward to hearing from you.
Todd
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Post# 940-6/2/2001-09:52 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Recycle guy comes thru...
MESSAGE: That's a beauty Peter! Nice score.
Todd
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Post# 941-6/2/2001-13:12 ||| Miss jet cone (Hopkins ,MN)
SUBJECT: RE: the new web site
MESSAGE:
thanks todd
I am a silent member .I run out thing to say
but I like to read every one's appliance info
but if any one would like to talk to me about
washer I will try to be of help
thanks miss jet cone
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Post# 942-6/2/2001-13:18 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Recycle guy comes thru... (1953 Kenmore Washer....)
MESSAGE: Wow PeterH770:
That's a nice find there. To be as old as it is, that 1953 Kenmore looks like it is in fine shape. That looks like the same one "Uni" has, doesn't it??
Oh, by the way, is that a 1960's GE "Commercial" Dryer that you have in your photo?? There is "presently" a GE dryer at my parent's SC home that looks similar to the one that's in your photo. As far as I know, it is still hooked up and is still in service.
--Charles--
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Post# 943-6/2/2001-13:29 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer (uh oh)
MESSAGE: Actually "Uni"
I don't think that WCI has ever started making washing machines for Philco. I believe Philco was LONG gone before WCI even started getting onto the scene. I have to back Scott on this one. Philco was phased out before WCI was out, and definitely before they started acquiring companies like Frigidiare, Gibson, Kelvinator and Westinghouse.
--Charles--
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Post# 944-6/2/2001-13:32 ||| Appliguy (Vienna Va.)
SUBJECT: Does anyone have a picture of a 1971 Kenmore 800 Automatic washer
MESSAGE: The first washer I recall my mom having was a Kenmore 800 automatic from the early 70's when it broke down and was repalced in december of 1983 I remember my mom & dad saying that getting 12 years out of the machine wass not a bad record seeing how my mom used it about 5 days a week. My mom later told me that she bought that machine to replace the one she had when she got married 2 years after they bought our summer home in 1969. She said they decided to take the 1963 kenmore 70 up to the lake and buy a new one for home since the 1963 model 70 would only be used during the summer ( that machine lasted until 1989 when my folks did the same thing again, this time repalcing the1983 Whirlpool Supreme, which replaced the 800., with a direct drive Kenmore 80). Before then mom had no washer at the lake and she didn't get a dryer up there until 1975. Anyway I was wondering if anyone could tell me what a 1970, 71, or 72 Kenmore 800 looked like because I have very fond memories of the one my mom had. PAT COFFEY
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Post# 945-6/2/2001-13:34 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer (uh oh)
MESSAGE: Uni:
Also, as an addend here. The thought of EVEN a "WCI/Philco" washer ever existing?? Well, that would be downright disgraceful.
Before that would happen, I'm glad that Ford phased them out when they had the chance to.
By the way, that was what my "late" great grandmother's Philco was. It was a "Ford"/Philco.
--Charles--
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Post# 946-6/2/2001-14:07 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Does anyone have a picture of a 1971 Kenmore 800 Automatic washer
MESSAGE: Appliguy:
I have a picture of a 1971 Kenmore Model 800 in my 1971 Sears Catalog. But unfortunately though, I don't have a "working" scanner right now, so I cannot scan a picture for you to see it. So, will you settle for a description??
The description of the Model 800 is as follows:
(01). It was the #3 Kenmore in the 1971 line (one behind the #2 Kenmore (which was a "push-button/dial stop" model)).
(02). It had three dials (with one larger cycle timer dial) and two more lever switches under the two smaller dials, and all the controls were at the right end of the console. The first smaller dial selected water level, and the other one at the right of the cycle timer selected the water temperature. The first lever switch selected a 2nd rinse, and the other lever switch was a soak selector.
(03). It had a detergent dispenser on the cabinet.
(04). It also had dispensers for bleach and fabric softener.
(05). It had a "full-width fluoresent" lighted console.
(06). And it had a Super Roto Swirl Agitator and a OBB.
It was a 2 Speed/6 Cycle washer.
Does that quite sums things up, Appliguy??
--Charles--
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Post# 947-6/2/2001-14:54 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Does anyone have a picture of a 1971 Kenmore 800 Automatic washer
MESSAGE: We got 15 years out of the 1962 Whirlpool. It raised three kids and handled a husband who ran a service station / tire store. The 1976 Whirlpool that replaced it went for 18 years.
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Post# 948-6/2/2001-15:46 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer
MESSAGE: Mikey, you're gonna take that, tired achy from working on the Frigidaire happy ....body of yours and put it in a truck and drive on over there and get ol Phil.
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Post# 949-6/2/2001-16:19 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Does anyone have a picture of a 1971 Kenmore 800 Automatic washer
MESSAGE: DADoES:
But then again, how many times per week did your 1961 and 1976 Whirlpools get used?? That may have a bearing on how long a machine can hold up as well. I don't know how many times per week our 1967 Kenmore Model 600 was used prior to me moving into my apartment years ago, but I do know that after I moved in, I was using it about twice a week. It was manufactured (and purchased) in 1967, and it lasted until 1990 (which was then replaced by the current 1990 D-D/D-A-A Kenmore). I would like to see if our 1990 Kenmore will hold up that long.
--Charles--
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Post# 950-6/2/2001-16:31 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Does anyone have a picture of a 1971 Kenmore 800 Automatic washer
MESSAGE: I would imagine the 1962 Whirlpool was used for at least three loads every three to four days. Remember, this was before disposable diapers (I guess it was, I don't know when disposables came on the market), so three kids worth of cloth diapers went through it. The 1976 was an 18-pounder, so there may have been a bit more time between washdays, but the number of loads per session was about the same.
If I remember correctly, the 1962 went through three overhauls -- there would have been only two, but the service shop somehow neglected to change one of the bearings on one of the jobs or something like that, so that one didn't last long. The 1976 never had any bearings replaced -- it still had the long spin tube, before they went to the short one that put the bearings under water. The timer was replaced once, and a couple belts, maybe a wigwag and a pump.
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Post# 951-6/2/2001-17:16 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Janney, Semple, Hill & Co. 1956 Appliance Line
MESSAGE: Today in the mail, I received a catalog from 1956 for Major Appliances. I was interested to see what brands they handled as I'd not seen any commonly known brands (for laundry) in the seller's listing. I was assured by the seller that there were automatic washers and dryers in the catalog - and there were!
Janney, Semple, Hill & Co.
22 South Second Street
Minneapolis 1, Minn.
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/surgilator/lst?&.dir=/Janney+Semple+Hill+%26+Co.&.src=ph&.view=t&.last=1
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Post# 952-6/2/2001-18:00 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer (uh oh)
MESSAGE: Actually "Charles"
Sometimes it wise to ask others in Applianceville if anyone has ever seen a particular machine before making concrete conclusions. While I was almost positive that WCI never made a "Philco" washer of WCI style, on occassion certain brands are marketed only in one area of the country. So just in case, its important to ask everyone if by chance they might remember seeing a WCI-Philco.
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Post# 953-6/2/2001-18:02 ||| nmaineman36 (Portland Maine)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer
MESSAGE: I decided that what I have now is enough. I do have a basement and thats where the others are. I need to enjoy the toys I have now before I go on a washer spree. I finally figured out what I did wrong yesterday with the Frigidaire and it took me 10 mins to get the washer back together and running. What a difference a new belt makes. I have already replaced the filter and the belt...my next thing is the agitator. I have a couple of new dings in it from the old filter falling out. I wasnt happy to see them but I may get a new one or cut the dings out and sand them smooth like I did before.But at 50 bucks or more I may just be a cuttin and a sandin! The washer now has plenty of power ..more than before. seems like the old belt would slip and not drive the system like it should. So now it really washes well and the extraction is great. I am loving this washer.
Mike
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Post# 954-6/2/2001-18:03 ||| nmaineman36 (Portland Maine)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer
MESSAGE: I decided that what I have now is enough. I do have a basement and thats where the others are. I need to enjoy the toys I have now before I go on a washer spree. I finally figured out what I did wrong yesterday with the Frigidaire and it took me 10 mins to get the washer back together and running. What a difference a new belt makes. I have already replaced the filter and the belt...my next thing is the agitator. I have a couple of new dings in it from the old filter falling out. I wasnt happy to see them but I may get a new one or cut the dings out and sand them smooth like I did before.But at 50 bucks or more I may just be a cuttin and a sandin! The washer now has plenty of power ..more than before. seems like the old belt would slip and not drive the system like it should. So now it really washes well and the extraction is great. I am loving this washer.
Mike
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Post# 955-6/2/2001-18:04 ||| nmaineman36 (Portland Maine)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer
MESSAGE: I cant believe I double posted that..sorry guys
Mike
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Post# 956-6/2/2001-18:10 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Does anyone have a picture of a 1971 Kenmore 800 Automatic washer (1970 800 Kenmore)
MESSAGE: Hi Pat, weclome to the new club. Nice to see you here. I have the Spring/Summer '70 Sears catalog. I scanned the page with the "800" and "700" models on it for you. See the link below.
This brings me to another sugject Applianceville. My big web project this weekend is going to be upgrading the Libraries and making them easier for me to install new scans. I would like to have every Sears catalog washer and dishwasher page scanned and placed in our Library from the first Automatic in the Spring/Summer 1950 book through the belt-drive years. I have the following Sears catalogs:
SS 1950
FW 1952
SS 1956
FW 1959
SS 1961
SS 1963
FW 1964
SS 1965
FW 1969
SS 1970
FW 1972
FW 1975
FW 1979
FW 1986
For those who have a scanner and other catalogs, if you could donate your time to the library and scan the washer and dishwashers pages, your donation will be much appreciated. Consistency is important, lets all scan as clearly and straight as possible, with your scanner set at 100dpi. Just email them to me at Webmaster@classicappliances.com. It will be so much fun someday to have every issue in our library!
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/miscbrands00/vwp?.dir=/quick+share&.dnm=2.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 957-6/2/2001-18:14 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Janney, Semple, Hill & Co. 1956 Appliance Line (Beam Stirkes Again)
MESSAGE: Hey Greg, great scans. I did see a Marquette Dryer at a sale once. The washers are obviously Beam machines and the dryer at the end is a Hamilton. Gotta love that Surgamatic washing action and bowl shaped tub. I love how that dryer comparision chart only compares the BOL machine on some brand to their own, talk about false advertising. Thanks for the scan.
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Post# 958-6/2/2001-19:07 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Does anyone have a picture of a 1971 Kenmore 800 Automatic washer (1970 800 Kenmore)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the scan of the 1970 Kenmores. Granny had that "700" model in avocado, leading into the Whirlpool Design 2000.
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Post# 959-6/2/2001-19:10 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Does anyone have a picture of a 1971 Kenmore 800 Automatic washer (1970 800 Kenmore)
MESSAGE: Well Uni:
So do I (.. :-)):
I can help you up to 1986. But I have to get my scanner working first. The Sears Catalogs that I have that have the "Belt-Drive" washers in them are as follows:
S/S 1957
F/W 1958
S/S 1960
S/S 1961
F/W 1963
F/W 1966
F/W 1967
S/S 1968
F/W 1968
F/W 1969
S/S 1971
S/S 1975
F/W 1976
F/W 1981
F/W 1984
F/W 1985
And that's it as far as the catalogs with "Belt-Drive" Kenmore washers are concerned. I noticed in your list, that you have a 1986 S/S catalog listed. I guess that was the one with the last "Belt-Drives" in it, right?? I have a F/W 1986 Catalog and mines has the first "Direct-Drives" advertised in it. Some time in the near future, I've got to get my scanner up and running. But actually, I am leaning toward getting a "step-up" HP scanner right now. I am leaning toward a model in the 4300 series. But unfortunately, the money is not in the budget for one right now. But if I can help out after I attain one, I'll be more than happy to do so.
--Charles--
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Post# 960-6/2/2001-19:13 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Janney, Semple, Hill & Co. 1956 Appliance Line (Beam Stirkes Again)
MESSAGE: Uni:
I also think the Marquette machines were "Beam" made machines. That was the same conclusion I just drawn. They look too much like Speed Queens for me not to.
--Charles--
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Post# 961-6/2/2001-20:16 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Does anyone have a picture of a 1971 Kenmore 800 Automatic washer (1970 800 Kenmore)
MESSAGE: I had the dryer that is shown on the bottom right.
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Post# 962-6/2/2001-20:19 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Does anyone have a picture of a 1971 Kenmore 800 Automatic washer (My washer)
MESSAGE: If the washer on the top right has a second rinse switch that is the same machine I grew up with. It was replaced with the first direct drive that died an awful death. I don't know how that could have happened. HAHHAAHA
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Post# 963-6/2/2001-20:21 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Does anyone have a picture of a 1971 Kenmore 800 Automatic washer (Sears catalog)
MESSAGE: I have the 83 book. I'll get working on the scans this weekend.
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Post# 964-6/2/2001-21:08 ||| Scottishsweeper (Edinburgh, Scotland)
SUBJECT: SERVIS SUPERTWIN
MESSAGE: Does anyone have a picture of the above machine as sold in the States under the Speed Queen brand? I think this machine is the Rolls Royce equivalent of twin tubs sold in the UK.
Kev.
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Post# 965-6/2/2001-21:36 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Janney, Semple, Hill & Co. 1956 Appliance Line
MESSAGE: Greg, Marquette was a Minneapolis company known primarily for their freezers and refrigerators. I did know that they offered laundry equipment at one time, and the machines appear to be of Beam derivation.
I have a feeling the Sun-Aire dryer is a Hamilton.
Scott
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Post# 966-6/2/2001-21:48 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Janney, Semple, Hill & Co. 1956 Appliance Line (I want Vacuum Fluffing!)
MESSAGE: Greg how does Vacuum Fluffing work exactly?
Jon
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Post# 967-6/2/2001-21:55 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Janney, Semple, Hill & Co. 1956 Appliance Line (I want Vacuum Fluffing!)
MESSAGE: Drying clothes is a process that involves tumbling the wet clothes while warm, dry air is moved over the load inside the tumbling chamber. This process, as opposed to stationary line drying, moves and flexes the fibers of the fabrics being dried creating a more full, or "fluffy" feel to the fabric.
How's that?
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Post# 968-6/2/2001-22:19 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Janney, Semple, Hill & Co. 1956 Appliance Line (Vacuum Drying)
MESSAGE: I love it Greg! Now I'll go watch my other dryers too! I shipped your subtop on Wednesday did you see it yet?
Jetcone
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Post# 969-6/2/2001-22:19 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: Another Lady
MESSAGE: Got home from Atanta about 2 hours ago with a gas 67 Lady Kenmore (that matches the electric one I got from Peter H last Sunday and the washer I got a couple of months before).
Peter H posted that there were 2 gas LK's. Well, by the time we got to Abby's, number 2 was buried, upside down in the recycle bin (Booooo Hooooo). Oh well, I got one.
When I got home I plugged it in out in the driveway with the door open. No interior light came on. It was then I noticed that there was no door switch visible. I popped the top off and it appears the switch is there, just the part that protrudes out is broken off. I managed to wedge a screwdriver up into the hole and I could hear the switch click. With the screwdriver in place, I plugged it back in and pushed the start button. It whirred to life. I then pressed the heat button and guess what? It has a spark ignition and it works, too. Well, that was all for tonight. I unplugged the LK and came in. Looking forward to cleaning her up tomorrow.
Will post pictures soon.
Steve 1-18
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Post# 970-6/2/2001-22:21 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: MIke Philco??
MESSAGE: Mike you have definetly decided not to go get that Philco?
Are you sure? The club needs one ya know. Let me know for sure before I go and call them.
Jet
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Post# 971-6/2/2001-22:27 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: FOUND...1968 Frigidaire with Rapid Dry
MESSAGE: I was over to Grays today and sneeked in back to see what was there and there she was the RapidDry I have been looking for.
I dragged her home and as soon as the Bendix is done I'll dig into her. She looks in good shape, no cone hop! Very good sign for a Jet-Action rollermatic machine!!!
THey also had a Norge Timeline Dryer , which I think was a Hamilton in disguise. I have no more room for dryers but I really liked the lines on it!
Jet
LINK: http://www.graysonline.com/
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Post# 972-6/2/2001-22:28 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: MIke Philco??
MESSAGE: I think you can gas up the truck and call them, Jon...
-ph
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Post# 973-6/2/2001-22:29 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer (uh oh)
MESSAGE: Steve 1-18 has seen a WCI Philco, and here is the pick of the very modern Elux Frigidare parts that say it's for Philco too...
-ph
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/vwp?.dir=/Yahoo!+Photo+Album&.src=ph&.dnm=WCI+Philco.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/lst%3f%26.dir=/Yahoo!%2bPhoto%2bAlbum%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 974-6/2/2001-22:32 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: FOUND...1968 Frigidaire with Rapid Dry (Poo on that link!!!)
MESSAGE: I thought the link was for a pic of these machines! Oh poo!! Jon, you're such a tease!
-ph
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Post# 975-6/2/2001-22:33 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Janney, Semple, Hill & Co. 1956 Appliance Line (Sub-top)
MESSAGE: Haven't seen it yet - should be here monday - Thanks!
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Post# 976-6/2/2001-22:54 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: FOUND...1968 Frigidaire with Rapid Dry (Poo on that link!!!)
MESSAGE: I second that!
Steve 1-18
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Post# 977-6/2/2001-23:01 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: SERVIS SUPERTWIN
MESSAGE: I've seen Servis spindry machines here in Canada before, sometimes marketed under the Simplicity label. Don't have any pictures for you though ;-(
Eddy
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Post# 978-6/2/2001-01:58 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer (uh oh)
MESSAGE: I too have never seen a WCI laundry product with the name Philco on it. I believe that when Ford sold off this branch, the Philco and Bendix name were sold to an Italian firm that manufactures machines under several names including Bendix, Thor, etc. that are possibly marketed in different countries (Thor and Bendix info if found on the web is from Australia.) I don't know what relation these names have to Electrolux and WCI now, unless there is some electronics line?
I posted a link to the Philco site that uses the same logo as on the parts bag - there must be a relationship, but not marketed in the US? Louis, can you remember the discussion we had a couple of months ago about aquisitions of Italian appliance manufacturers and Electrolux?
LINK: http://www.philco.it/first/Default.htm
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Post# 979-6/2/2001-01:59 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: SERVIS SUPERTWIN (Speed Queen Supertwin)
MESSAGE: Hello Scottishsweeper and welcome to the club. I found and scanned this 1974 Speed Queen Supertwin brochure. I belive this is the machine you are referring to. Did Servis produce this machine for Speed Queen?
Check out the link below...
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/miscbrands00/lst?.dir=/quick+share+2&.src=ph
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Post# 980-6/3/2001-02:02 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Janney, Semple, Hill & Co. 1956 Appliance Line
MESSAGE: I think someone in our family had a Marquette chest freezer - that's all I've ever seen of them before. The catalog covers their territory by state and counties, Thurston and Cuming counties are listed, so that would all fit! (yes, Cuming - we have a street in Omaha named Cuming and the intersection of 69th and Cuming is always cause for a snicker!)
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Post# 981-6/3/2001-02:03 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer (Plastic or Rubber?)
MESSAGE: Hmmmm, we'll you better call anyway Jon and ask her what does that agitator look like? Ask her if there is any rubber on the agitator?
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Post# 982-6/3/2001-02:16 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: SERVIS SUPERTWIN (Speed Queen Supertwin)
MESSAGE: But the SQ transmission, agitator w/210 deg. stroke are in this version. Could there be a relationship here too?
What did you find saleing today? Skyler and I went to three sales and have a couple more to hit tomorrow - found only an old Lux (Robertshaw works) kitchen timer that I needed desperately as my clock stopped completely on the RCI-58! Hope you guys had a good time!
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Post# 983-6/3/2001-02:20 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: SERVIS SUPERTWIN (Speed Queen Supertwin)
MESSAGE: That's very true, I didn't think about that. I wonder if these Supertwins are somehow related between the US and UK?
Pictures of the estate sales will be posted in the morning.
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Post# 984-6/3/2001-02:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: FOUND...1968 Frigidaire with Rapid Dry
MESSAGE: (Sigh).... Spinning over 630rpm in a Frigidaire - what a dream that would be!
Did you get the boot problem solved with the Gyramatic? Can't wait to see pics of that up and running like new. Restoration should have been a breeze since it was in MINT condition!
Nasty little trick with that link there, mister!
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Post# 985-6/3/2001-02:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: SERVIS SUPERTWIN (Speed Queen Supertwin)
MESSAGE: But it is morning!
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Post# 986-6/3/2001-02:45 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Janney, Semple, Hill & Co. 1956 Appliance Line
MESSAGE: Greg, thanks for the scans, really wonderful!! It's almost spooky how much interesting materials this club has.
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Post# 987-6/3/2001-03:22 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer (uh oh)
MESSAGE: Yes Greg, I remember. I went back to the Electrolux site and looked again at the brands they own. Philco isn't among them. Here they are (I don't think the latest purchases are mentioned:
AEG, Allwyn, Arthur Martin Electrolux, Corberó, Electrolux, Elektro Helios, Eureka, Faure, Flymo, Frigidaire, Frigidaire Gallery, Husqvarna, Juno, Kelvinator, Maxclean, McCulloch, Menalux, Partner, Poulan, Rex, Rosenlew, Samus, Tappan, Therma, Tornado, Volta, Voss, WeedEater, White-Westinghouse, Zanker, Zanussi, Zanussi-Samus, Zoppas
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Post# 988-6/3/2001-03:47 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: SERVIS SUPERTWIN (Speed Queen Supertwin)
MESSAGE: I don't believe it!!!! That is a 70's ánd 80's Zanussi dryer!!! I'll search for the brochure and scan the picture.
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Post# 989-6/3/2001-04:45 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: SERVIS SUPERTWIN (Zanussi picture)
MESSAGE: I scanned a page from the 1982 Zanussi brochure. These models are quite similar to the Servis/Speed Queen dryer. At the bottom of the page the BOL model control panel is shown. The text says that it has a door that is smaller (2/3). I remember that the 70's models look even more like the Servis/Speed Queen dryer. If I ever come across one I'll have to make a picture!!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius?e&.intl=us&.flabel=fld1&.from=d&.pindex=23&start=9999&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius%3fd%26.flabel=fld1%26.intl=us%26.src=ph
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Post# 990-6/3/2001-04:57 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: Electrolux art
MESSAGE: While I was minding some club business at the Electrolux site, I came across an interesting link that shows what artists can do with appliance parts. I guess there is not only a second life for some appliances, but eprhaps even a third. I wonder who gets inspiration from these pictures...
LINK: http://www.sthlms-reprografen.se/electrolux/EX-ECO.html
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Post# 991-6/3/2001-08:59 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: FOUND...1968 Frigidaire with Rapid Dry (I don't believe it)
MESSAGE: You can't believe what Jon did to fix his new Bendix Gyramatics' door boot! This new tactict holds promise for other vintage front loading machines too. Stay tuned, I'll let Jon explain.
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Post# 992-6/3/2001-09:00 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: SERVIS SUPERTWIN (Zanussi Supertwin Dryer)
MESSAGE: Cool picture Louis, but is this really the same dryer?
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Post# 993-6/3/2001-09:03 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Electrolux art (This gives me ideas)
MESSAGE: I love the fish-coffee table and the dishwasher sprinkler. Hmmmm, this give me some ideas. Now all I need is some time.
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Post# 994-6/3/2001-10:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Here’s this weeks episode of the cybershow. For those who may be new to the club, every Saturday many of us search the Estate/House sales in our respective cities for vintage appliances and take pictures of the experience and the machines found. Here are the pictures from yesterday. It was a big Whirlpool day and before I forgot to mention it to everyone, I found an Apex...
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/estatesale3/lst?&.dir=/Estate+Sale+Saturday+June+2+2001&.src=ph&.begin=9999&.view=t&.order=&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/estatesale3/lst%3f%26.dir=/Estate%2bSale%2bSaturday%2bJune%2b2%2b2001%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 995-6/3/2001-10:14 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Congrats on your Apex! I know several people that have coin-op Maytags in their homes - rebuilt ones from the Maytag distributorship/coin laundry biz.
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Post# 996-6/3/2001-10:16 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: GE Dryers with Antibacterial Option - ????
MESSAGE: I was reading the ads today and this GE dryer (TOL) caught my eye. It has an antibacterial option, I checked the web side and there is no explanation of this, nor in any press releases either. Anyone know what this is?
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Post# 997-6/3/2001-10:28 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (Lucky you )
MESSAGE: I thought you found another apex washer I was gonna hate you before even getting to meet you (laughing) I went hunting yesterday and did not find a thing going back out this afternoon.
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Post# 998-6/3/2001-10:29 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Dryers with Antibacterial Option - ???? (not a clue but sounds like)
MESSAGE: sounds like the ultaviolet bulbs they use to put in dryers ... but then again its speculation
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Post# 999-6/3/2001-10:34 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Dryers with Antibacterial Option - ???? (not a clue but sounds like)
MESSAGE: That's the first thought that crossed my mind, but wasn't the mercury outlawed or some such thing? I was hoping to have a better explanation from the website, but this is GE we're talking about here. They have a speed dry option too, maybe it's a higher temperature cycle?
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Post# 1000-6/3/2001-10:38 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Dryers with Antibacterial Option - ???? (GE brings good things to life )
MESSAGE: that pharse always make me laugh ... not many of the company washing sites have much useful information for people like us too many think its a chore to do laundry
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Post# 1001-6/3/2001-10:47 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: milestone of 1000 posts
MESSAGE: Congratulations to all of us. Applainceville is just pulsing alone. Just goes to show us all we're still awash with ideas and encounters. We won't wash out will we!!!
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Post# 1002-6/3/2001-10:49 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: milestone of 1000 posts (really thought I might win a prize )
MESSAGE: does not take long with all the coverstation going on and the many hunts throught the world going on for appliances
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Post# 1003-6/3/2001-11:17 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Dryers with Antibacterial Option - ???? (not a clue but sounds like)
MESSAGE: Greg, was this on their Wizzard mnodel? See if you can download the use & care book & other related material that might indicate explanation of cycles. Last time I checked, about 5 or 6 months ago, there was nothing to download then.
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Post# 1004-6/3/2001-11:25 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: That KDS15 was the exact model that was in the kitchen of the special summer day camp I went to from 1966-1970. That's the one where the maid loaded the gbottom rack almost like it was a 1950 Hotpoint impeller, everything was in a circular pattern, but facing toward the center. It used to drive me crazy. It was all I could do to go in there & reload the thing.
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Post# 1005-6/3/2001-11:36 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Uni:
From what I have gotten from this week's journey, I guess if I was there and I had to leave away with something, I guess I would've left away with that 29-Inch Whirlpool washer with the wood grain on its control console (although, that 24-Inch model has generated some interest from me as well). Other than that, I guess there wasn't anything to write home about this week. And to think that I thought that you have FINALLY found your Apex. When I read your post before clicking onto the link, I was thinking that "WOW!!!!! Uni has FINALLY found his Apex "Bouncing Basket" washer". I didn't think that you was going to lead us on and then in the end, I was going to end up seeing a vacuum cleaner. The next time I see an Apex posted in your post, that had better be a washing machine and not a vacuum cleaner, okay (LOL)???
On a much sadder note though, I also checked out THAT "new generation" Frigidaire, and to think now, what has that once proud brand has become and been reduced to. Certainly, that wasn't one of the Frigidaires we grew up with. And definitely, that certainly wasn't my great uncle's "Custom Imperial 3 Speed, Rapidry Spin" mid 1960's Frigidaire. After seeing the Frigidaire in your photo, all I can do is cry and act as if I was mourning the death of a valuable member of the family. To see what the Frigidaire brand once stood for, and then to see this, I have to say that was a travesty. What a shame, GM.
--Charles--
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Post# 1006-6/3/2001-11:38 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Dryers with Antibacterial Option - ???? (not a clue but sounds like)
MESSAGE: Hi Bob- did you get my email? I did download the owners/use manual and there was no further expl. of the anti-bact. option - just to mash the button to kill 99.9% blah, blah. But nothing on how it works. It was on the Wizard dryer, on sale this week for $604!
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Post# 1007-6/3/2001-11:52 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Uni:
Now, in the next to last house that featured the "coin-ops" in it. Was that an actual house?? Or was that a rental cottage that looked like a house?? I hope that was a rental cottage. Because to put a pair of coin operated machines inside of a "mainstream" American residence has to be a concept that I haven't heard of before, and is virtually unthinkable. That's a concept I don't think I can adapt to.
But that GE coin operated washer is one am definitely familiar to. We still have several of those installed in our neighborhood laundromat around the corner from my apartment. They have been in service since 1989, and they are still going strong. However, a few of them were removed to make way for the Wascomat "Double Loader Plus" Juniors. So now, there are about six GE's left, and this is from a "mat" that originally had about 15 of them. Thank god that the GE's that are still in service are the older belt-driven models. There is a "mat" in the vacinity of my area that has the newer GE's installed in them, and they ain't worth shit.
--Charles--
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Post# 1008-6/3/2001-12:06 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Electrolux art
MESSAGE: Nice to see those parts being used in such a creative way. I have a few too many agitators on my back porch at the moment! Maybe I should put them to better use. BTW Louis, do you own an agitator of any sort?
Eddy
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Post# 1009-6/3/2001-12:18 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: SERVIS SUPERTWIN (Zanussi Supertwin Dryer)
MESSAGE: Yes Robert, I'm positive about it. The picture I posted is of a more modern model, but the 70's models are exactly the same. BTW, the cheapest model has the door that covers only 2/3 of the front and looks more like the Servis dryer. But if I ever come across one, I'll do an attempt to get a picture of it. You'd be surprised. Louis
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Post# 1010-6/3/2001-12:32 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: You're indeed a naughty brat, getting such a modern Frigidaire to spin. You're not supposed to touch these things! Congratulations on the Apex, I bet the bouncing basket is coming. Have you thought about putting an ad in the newspaper like you did for the Frigidaires?
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Post# 1011-6/3/2001-12:34 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Dryers with Antibacterial Option - ????
MESSAGE: Since it's a GE, isn't it just a dryer with a bad thermostat? When it toasts the clothes, I bet the bacteria have gone LOL.
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Post# 1012-6/3/2001-12:43 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Electrolux art
MESSAGE: Hi Eddy, although I have seen agitators when I was young in wringer washers, I haven't seen one in a while. Last one I saw was of the Miele wringerwasher (without wringer though) the wife of my landlord had. Unfortunately I was too late when she got rid of it. And to answer your question, no I don't have an agitator. Makes a nice pedestal or a foot for an ashtray (I don't smoke). Louis
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Post# 1013-6/3/2001-13:56 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Electrolux art
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, we find the appliance art quite pleasing!
QEOM
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Post# 1014-6/3/2001-14:12 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: THE GREATEST HISTORY LESSON EVER TOLD
MESSAGE: Back when I was in college I spent many a evenings in the library, of course I was suppose to be studying my homework, but guess what I really was doing? I was reading and photocopying all the washer information I could get my hands on.
How many times have we found articles on the history of the washing machine and found them to be totally inaccurate? The only way to get accurate history on the washing machine is to read articles created at the time that those washers were new. During the 30’s, 40’s and 50’s the two main consumer-rating publications were Consumer Reports and Consumer Research Bulletin. These two magazines were in big competition for readers. If you take the time to actually read these articles (and there is a lot of reading here) you will learn the real history of the Automatic Washer, presented in a fascinating and somewhat opionated way. I was riveted to these articles when I first came across them. One thing to remember, these ratings are somewhat subjective to the individuals’ tastes who wrote these articles and the ratings should never be taking and the end-all answer to how a machine really performed. Especially when you see that CU rated a machine very highly and then right after CRB turned around and rated the exact same machine very poorly and vice-versa! But they do tell a great story of what was going on before and after the war with the American washing machine buying public.
More articles will be loaded soon, but for now, this will start you on the road to the greatest story every told! If you go right now to the Consumer Rating Library on the home page of our web site you will find hours worth of reading on the long history of the automatic washing.
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Post# 1015-6/3/2001-16:44 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: THE GREATEST HISTORY LESSON EVER TOLD (Terrific!!)
MESSAGE: Robert, thanks to you I had a wonderful night reading!! With a big bowl of chocolate icecream I browsed through all the tests and really enjoyed all the washer tests. I have so many thoughts that I can't write them all down here. The Frigidaires are ofcourse wonderful machines, but who am I telling. I still have a weak spot for the Launderall and ofcourse the ABC/Kelvinator washers are also among my favourites. Thanks for sharing these tests with us. Louis
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Post# 1016-6/3/2001-21:01 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: THE GREATEST HISTORY LESSON EVER TOLD (Stunned Silence)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the incredible work you've done - you've given everyone so much to read, posting has stopped for the day!
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Post# 1017-6/3/2001-21:05 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Dryers with Antibacterial Option - ???? (not a clue but sounds like)
MESSAGE: Greg, I sent you an email to the address in your A-ville profile. I didn't receive one from you.
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Post# 1018-6/3/2001-21:13 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: Lady "K" dryer update
MESSAGE: Sunda, May 27th, Rhinnie and I went to Atlanta to pick up the electric Lady K mate to the piano key washer. Then late Friday, I read that Peter H has found not 1 but 2 gas versions, so once again, we hit the road.
Today, Sunday, I spent most of the day working on the gas dryer and in the 'studio.' I swapped the tops, as the gas machine wasn't in as good shape as the electric's.
I ran more gas line and added another connection for "Lady K." Several trips to Lowes to get black pipe, fittings, valves, flex line AND.... they have 26" lamps! YAY!!!!!
Go the dryer "fired up" tonight. It is one hot dryer! Will wash some rags tomorrow and the Lady will have her first load in her new home.
Will do the pictures one day this week.
Steve 1-18
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Post# 1019-6/3/2001-23:27 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Dryers with Antibacterial Option - ???? (not a clue but sounds like)
MESSAGE: I sent it again - checked in my Netscape mail (in process of changing to I.E., IE won't take the address book info from Ntscp) and your address was right and the one I got from you today was the same. I re-sent it again - we'll see what happens.
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Post# 1020-6/3/2001-23:36 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: THE GREATEST HISTORY LESSON EVER TOLD (Stunned Silence)
MESSAGE: Reading bits here and there through the day, I'm only up to May '48 and loving it all! Such great resource possibilities this library will be (and is!) When some young High School sophomore boy writes a report on appliances for his economics/marketing class, we'll be here for him. Wish this was there for me when I did it! Thanks so much Robert, this is great!
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Post# 1021-6/4/2001-07:09 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: THE GREATEST HISTORY LESSON EVER TOLD (Stunned Silence)
MESSAGE: Glad your enjoying this, I love the stories of how long waiting lists had formed to get an automatic. And how CU and CR both said that the automatic didn't clean anywhere near as well as the conventional machines, but women didn't care, they wanted that automatic. Notice that in the May 1940 report, on page 3 where it rated the little bolt-down Bendix they said and I quote "Rinsing Action Extremely effective". YUK! I think that machine rinses terribly, the worst I've ever seen actually. But, it probably rinsed better than dipping the clothes in a sink full of water that was used over and over again, is what they mean. Our standards have definately gone up.
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Post# 1022-6/4/2001-07:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: THE GREATEST HISTORY LESSON EVER TOLD (Stunned Silence)
MESSAGE: The "dewatering cycle" cracks me up! There was mention in one of the early reports of a coal fired water heater - imagine that horror! It was impressive how Frigidaire moved up in the ratings, but was qualified all through the years as being the best in most areas, but only downgraded for the tangling which may have been an operator problem anyway.
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Post# 1023-6/4/2001-07:54 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: THE GREATEST HISTORY LESSON EVER TOLD (First Beam Machine)
MESSAGE: yes, the april '48 report was not very nice was it? Notice who else was in this same report, the very first Beam made machine, the AMC-Coronado. I would LOVE to find that first, glass-lid Beam machine!
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Post# 1024-6/4/2001-08:09 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix POTD (Hard or Soft?)
MESSAGE: Greg, begging Peter's pardon, but they were bolt down. I'd be willing to bet my hard mount on this because I asked a friend of mine, Mr. Underwood who was the Philco-Bendix serviceman who sold me my Duomatic and who also had a couple of coin laundries about getting one of those machines and he said it had to be bolted down. The double load machine had a tub the size of the original Duomatic and there was not room inside the cabinet for it to do a lot of jumping around. There was no suspension system because it was cheaper to build to build them that way. Tom
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Post# 1025-6/4/2001-08:16 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: THE GREATEST HISTORY LESSON EVER TOLD (I was up all night)
MESSAGE: Thanks so much for posting the CU reports ... Yes DEwatering gave me a chuckle... coal fired waterheaters but it also gave us a glimse into the need for america to have possesions to have an identity.. the long waiting list for automatic washers. It is funny how some of thier stories changed as the years passed thanks again for the great histroy lesson
Philippe
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Post# 1026-6/4/2001-08:25 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (Very nice KM! )
MESSAGE: Unless you are going to run all the elements wide open on HIGH at once with the oven on, you don't need a 50 amp breaker for the range. I have run many of them off 30 amp dryer circuits. When the oven is baking, it draws 3750 watts when it cycles on, well below the 6000 you are allowed on a 30 amp breaker. Since it is a single oven range you should not have any problems. Lots of the houses in our old neighborhood had 60 amp service panels but allowed for an electric range. If you also wanted an electric dryer and/or air conditioners you had to heavy up, unless you did like our neighbor and had an electric dryer and two 220 volt ac units on the 60 amp service. You just ran the dryer when only one ac was on. Tom
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Post# 1027-6/4/2001-08:26 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Recycle guy comes thru... (70's GE dryer)
MESSAGE: Hey Chas,
The dryer is a mid 70's "clothes conditioner", as GE called their dryers. It needs new bearings. It came with the house, and works great otherwise. In my limited dryer experience, I have always found GE to be a great dryer.
-ph
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Post# 1028-6/4/2001-08:48 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: ...So Easily Acheived With a Blackstone. (its the first)
MESSAGE: Robert, I guess you never got out to the shed in John's back yard to see the really old Bendix with the cycles printed in silver on black squares and little pointer knobs for the cycle indicator and water temps. The porthole door opens down, I think, but it is a square cabinet. Tom
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Post# 1029-6/4/2001-08:52 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer
MESSAGE: Mikey, Don't fight the feeling. Tom
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Post# 1030-6/4/2001-08:54 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: ...So Easily Acheived With a Blackstone. (Deluxe)
MESSAGE: That's the Deluxe Cabinet version of the original '38 Bendix. It came out about '39 or '40.
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Post# 1031-6/4/2001-08:57 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer (uh oh)
MESSAGE: There are lots of Philco washers made in Italy also. Tom
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Post# 1032-6/4/2001-09:06 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (silly question)
MESSAGE: Hmm, running a dryer when it's hot enough to turn your AC on, means that it's also hot enough outside to hang your clothes on. Is that common? No wonder everybody complains about high energy prices. Louis
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Post# 1033-6/4/2001-09:25 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer (uh oh)
MESSAGE: Somehow PHILCO by Ford never had the same cachet as FRIGIDAIRE made only by Genral Motors. TT
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Post# 1034-6/4/2001-09:49 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Janney, Semple, Hill & Co. 1956 Appliance Line
MESSAGE: Greg, Loved it, especially all the ???????? after vibration free operation; thanks for sharing. I think they were wrong about the Hamilton not having closed door broiling, I mean illumination. Those lights are on when it is running. They would have been on in all the models with germicidal lamps, but without windows, I guess you lose points when the illumination can't be seen. TT
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Post# 1035-6/4/2001-09:54 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer (uh oh)
MESSAGE: Robert, you mean like the Bendix Economat washer we have in almond that is a dead ringer, you should pardon the expression, for a 70s Westinghouse front loader? WH or WCI had the rights to the name although Dexter had the manufacturing rights for the actual tumbler machines for the commercial market. TT
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Post# 1036-6/4/2001-09:58 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Janney, Semple, Hill & Co. 1956 Appliance Line (Beam Stirkes Again)
MESSAGE: The bulging front on the TOL Marquette looks really Hotpointy also. TT
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Post# 1037-6/4/2001-10:01 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Janney, Semple, Hill & Co. 1956 Appliance Line (I want Vacuum Fluffing!)
MESSAGE: Vacuum fluffing is what you are doing to your hair while the coffeemaster is brewing, multi-tasking. TT
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Post# 1038-6/4/2001-10:11 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (silly question)
MESSAGE: Louis, clothes lines are very rare now in the USA. When I first bought my house it had an old line in the backyard that hadn't been used in years, so I took it down. You see a few yards with clothes lines around yet, but its even more rare to see any clothes actually hanging on those lines. When I do see clothes hanging they always look so wrinkled.
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Post# 1039-6/4/2001-10:12 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Janney, Semple, Hill & Co. 1956 Appliance Line (I want Vacuum Fluffing!)
MESSAGE: Actually, Greg, certain manutacturers made a lot of vacuum drying as opposed to dryers like Norge that blew the air through the machine. Do you remember when "Freeze Dried" coffee first hit the market, no you are too young, well they made such a production of evaporating the water from the freshly brewed coffee in a vacuum. The vacuum dryer manufacturers said that their dryers were more efficient because as we all know at lower air pressure water boils at lower temperatures. They claimed that the vacuum drying lowered the air pressure in the drying chamber so that the evaporation increased because the moisture "boiled off" as it were to a greater degree than it would in a blower type dryer with the same heat input. To really be significant, the pressure would have to be much lower than was achieved by the blower, so much so that the cabinet would have probably partially collapsed from the difference in pressure to say nothing of how much air it would have drawn out of the house to achieve this. TT
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Post# 1040-6/4/2001-10:16 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: FOUND...1968 Frigidaire with Rapid Dry
MESSAGE: John there was nothing similar about the Norge and Hamilton dryer designs unless you have stumbled on some missing link. The washers were a different story. Did you mean washer? TT
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Post# 1041-6/4/2001-10:22 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco washer (uh oh)
MESSAGE: I wonder if the VOSS brand that Electrolux owns is related to VOSS wringer washers so famous for their small square ads in the back of Better Hams and Giblets in the late 40s through the 50s? TT
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Post# 1042-6/4/2001-10:23 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: FOUND...1968 Frigidaire with Rapid Dry (TimeLine Dryer-HAmilton??)
MESSAGE: Hi Tom! I'll check the Norge Dryer again to see but my friend BOB at Grays said that He thought it was a Hamilton and when I opened the door there was that "sunRay" lamp on the upper rim of the door opening so I assumed it was a Hamilton.
The Rapidry 1000 turns out to be in MINT shape even the bearings are fine so I just cleaned it up and installed it and already it has done its virgin load!!
Cheers Jet
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Post# 1043-6/4/2001-10:25 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (You have to understand)
MESSAGE: Louis
There are many housing development that prohibit Clothslines since they devalue the property with laundry exposed. California is the worse on those home owner covenants
Of course in South Carolina it is the norm to place your appliances on the front porch for all to see along with our seniel relatives
Philippe
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Post# 1044-6/4/2001-10:26 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Janney, Semple, Hill & Co. 1956 Appliance Line (FLuffs-R-Us)
MESSAGE: I'll fluff you all over your Maytag Rinse cycle!
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Post# 1045-6/4/2001-10:30 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Janney, Semple, Hill & Co. 1956 Appliance Line (to fluff or not to fluff)
MESSAGE: Just to let you all know...
In my family, the term "to fluff" is a verb meaning "to pass wind", as in "EEEEEWWWWWWW!!! Who fluffed!!!"
I just can't seem to use the term in regards to laundry...
-ph
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Post# 1046-6/4/2001-10:31 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Dryers with Antibacterial Option - ????
MESSAGE: Greg, it's a high temp cycle that after the clothes are dry lets the temp go to 180 or something. It's also called overdrying. It's not hard to get some dryers that hot with dry clothes. It probably cycles on the hi limit thermostat. The catch is that while heat does kill bacteria, if a bacterium dries out while still alive, it encysts, and dry heat does not have much effect on it. That is why autoclaves use steam under pressure to kill microbes. Some GE dryers had a round orange light that lit up to indicate "Sanitizing." It probably would be good for eggs from mites and lice. Tom
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Post# 1047-6/4/2001-10:34 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Dryers with Antibacterial Option - ???? (not a clue but sounds like)
MESSAGE: Greg, they introduced the Sanitize thing in the 60s. Tom
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Post# 1048-6/4/2001-10:45 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (silly question)
MESSAGE: Louis, I know this is going to shock you, but there are neighborhoods, whole communities even, over here that ban the hanging of wash outside to dry. You cannot put up a clothes line. A friend even got complalints when she put things on a folding wood rack on her screen porch. I will be the first to admit such insanity is out of bounds, but yes, we do use our dryers year-round over here.
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Post# 1049-6/4/2001-10:49 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (silly question)
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, drying one's clothes on a clothesline in America has become all but a lost art in America amongst folks under the age of 50; something which we have never really understood. It is free, very fast on the right days, and smells great! We fully intend to engage in this practice when we have a "yard", just as the Queen Mum and Princesses continue to. There are people who argue that additional ironing of articles is needed using this method, but I have not found that to be the case; quite the contrary. These are generally the same people unable to recognize the aesthetic value of a well-pressed garment, another often dying art in our realm.
QEOM
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Post# 1050-6/4/2001-10:55 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Janney, Semple, Hill & Co. 1956 Appliance Line (I want Vacuum Fluffing!)
MESSAGE: I remember Gibson used to say their dryers had the "vacu-dry" system. They often appeared on The Price is Right and other venues such as this. Perhaps this is something similar. Does anyone know if Gibson was an independent company in its pre-Westinghouse days, and if they or someone else manufactured their laundry products?
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Post# 1051-6/4/2001-10:56 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: FOUND...1968 Frigidaire with Rapid Dry (TimeLine Dryer-HAmilton??)
MESSAGE: Hi Jet! I love the '68 machines! Looking forward to seeing pictures of your new find! S
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Post# 1052-6/4/2001-10:59 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Dryers with Antibacterial Option - ???? (not a clue but sounds like)
MESSAGE: What is all this talk about Wizard dryers lately? I thought Western Auto had discontinued private labeling and was selling brand name appliances now?
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Post# 1053-6/4/2001-11:00 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: FOUND...1968 Frigidaire with Rapid Dry (TimeLine Dryer-HAmilton??)
MESSAGE: Jon, deluxe Norge dryers had a lamp above the door as well as the linkage to the Stop 'n Dry lever up there, but Norge had the solid drum with the three great big air openings at the back of each baffle and blew the air back to front. Hamilton used the perforated drum and moved the heat in a more vertical path with the "Carrier Current" moving mostly through the base of the drying chamber. Tom
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Post# 1054-6/4/2001-11:00 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (silly question)
MESSAGE: And I thought there were less rules in the US. Hmmm, I don't think the dutch would settle for such rules, most housewifes still like to hang out the laundry (including me LOL). I think I will have to make a few pictures on a bright day.
Next question: If you use your dryer on a hot day, does anyone use an air only cycle or do you just as well let the dryer heat up?
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Post# 1055-6/4/2001-11:10 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Janney, Semple, Hill & Co. 1956 Appliance Line (to fluff or not to fluff)
MESSAGE: And in my Miele manuals, they use the term laundry fluff to mean lint. Texize introduced a fabric softener in the early 60s called Laundry Fluff (I think) to compete with Staley's Sta Puf. It did not smell as good as Sta Puf, but it was cheaper. TT
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Post# 1056-6/4/2001-11:16 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Janney, Semple, Hill & Co. 1956 Appliance Line (FLuffs-R-Us)
MESSAGE: Jon, you are such the romantic one.
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Post# 1057-6/4/2001-11:19 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: elevator operators
MESSAGE: I have much more sympathy for the elevator operators of my childhood after trying to zip down or up to just the right posting in these long columns. I seem to have to bump up or down once or twice before coming to a stop at the correct number. TT
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Post# 1058-6/4/2001-11:21 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (Air Dry on Hot Days)
MESSAGE: I would take forever to dry most clothes on air-dry Louis, even on hot days.
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Post# 1059-6/4/2001-11:27 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: elevator operators (Use the back arrow!)
MESSAGE: Right after replying to a post Tom, hit your back arrow button a few times and it should take you back to the spot in the pink index where you left off, as opposed to trying to manually find the last message your read.
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Post# 1060-6/4/2001-11:34 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (silly question)
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, in America the generation of children that is now roughly our age were about the last to be raised in homes where domestic arts were given priority. Around 1970 or 1975, these practices slowly began to be abandoned, and as a result today we have suburbs full of people who can't keep a house, iron a shirt, bake a decent cake or give a dinner party to save their bloody lives. Such persons, who were the subject of negative gossip in the Queen Mum's generation, are so common now that no one even flinches, and in fact it has gotten so out of hand that some dare to look down upon those who do have these skills.
We are now seeing the learned behavior of persons raised in these later generations being manifested in things such as these covenants being discussed here, and all sorts of other ugly things we'd rather not think about. While we don't doubt that these later children were loved, we find the lack of domestic standards today quite appalling.
QEOM
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Post# 1061-6/4/2001-11:34 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Hotpoint Microwave
MESSAGE: Did everyone notice that the Picture of the Day shows one of the very first microwave ovens ever produced, it's from 1957!
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Post# 1062-6/4/2001-11:43 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: elevator operators
MESSAGE: Thank you for that nice thought, Tom. Almost as much fun as seeing the appliances, vacuums and all the wonderful things one would see in the department stores was the fun and warmth of riding the attended elevators. Some of them were the same as the elevators of today (full center closing doors) only non-automatic, but my particular favorites were those that had only a gate for an inner door where you could see the floor to floor movement. Some even had windowed outer doors, and you could see out onto the floor and people waiting before the doors even opened.
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Post# 1063-6/4/2001-11:44 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: elevator operators (Use the back arrow!)
MESSAGE: Another trick I discovered is if you are going to reply and get buzzed and have to re log in, you go back to the top of the list. Hit back until you get back past the buzzer screen, and you can get back to the message you were going to reply to.
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Post# 1064-6/4/2001-11:47 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Microwave
MESSAGE: YAY. I guessed right! The Hotpoint has a very similar appearance to the Kelvinator microwave oven Greg and I saw at Pioneer Village, and the grid on the window was another hint.
I didn't know until I visited Pioneer Village that there were microwaves in the 50s. I did not see one the first time until in a Sears or Wards catalog probably in the mid 70s.
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Post# 1065-6/4/2001-11:59 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (Air Dry on Hot Days)
MESSAGE: I guess that was the silly question ;-)
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Post# 1066-6/4/2001-12:01 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (silly question)
MESSAGE: Thank you Your Majesty for your comments, I think Hyacinth also would be appalled if she heard that.
QLOTOC
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Post# 1067-6/4/2001-12:16 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (silly question)
MESSAGE: not to mention Sheridan! :)
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Post# 1068-6/4/2001-12:18 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Dryers with Antibacterial Option - ???? (Frigidaire washer "
sanitize"
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MESSAGE: Hi Tom
I've seen a setting on later model GM Frigidaire washers that is for sanitizing. Do you know if what that is about? Does it do anything special, like a hot rinse or something? Thanks.
Rich
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Post# 1069-6/4/2001-12:18 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: elevator operators (Use the back arrow!)
MESSAGE: Robert, thanks for the hint, but where I have the trouble, and it is just my clumsiness, is in the window of messages to be viewed, you have to use the up arrow to get to the next batch and I sometimes overshoot, like old thermostatic burner and surface unit controls and some talent in art films, and have to adjust it so that I don't miss an unread one at the bottom of the list while trying for the optimum number of unread messages in the pink area. No biggie, but I just thought of the adjustments the operators made to get the cab to just the right place to open as I watched the little darker gray elevator cabs move in the lighter gray shafts. TT
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Post# 1070-6/4/2001-12:21 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Microwave
MESSAGE: Did you know that the early ones were water cooled and would stop working when the cooling system needed water added to the radiator? John had just such a service call. TT
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Post# 1071-6/4/2001-12:31 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Microwave
MESSAGE: Wow. The things one learns here are quite amazing. No wonder those early micros were so large.
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Post# 1072-6/4/2001-12:33 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: elevator operators
MESSAGE: And the lady sat on the wooden fold down stool and had that pointer in her hand that she held out across the doors before she closed the folding gate. I think one of the reasons for the windows was to make it easier to align the two sets of doors. They were really neat pieces of equipment. I never got to inspect that control that they used as closely as I would have liked, but it was a pretty neat skill they had to bring that thing to a smooth stop with only a minor adjustment or two before opening the doors. The buildings on Capitol Hill used to have elevator operators and that Representative Wayne Hayes (who got into all that trouble with the secretary who could barely answer the phone) was so mean that he took the stools away from the elevator ladies and they had to spend their entire shift on their feet. Not many people felt anything but joy when he crash landed without the benefit of a soft controlled arrival at the floor of his choice in that scandal. Tom
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Post# 1073-6/4/2001-12:36 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Microwave
MESSAGE: Really! So he encounters ovens such as this still in service? How fun.
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Post# 1074-6/4/2001-12:37 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (silly question)
MESSAGE: I second that and I am unanimous about this emotion.
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Post# 1075-6/4/2001-12:39 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Microwave (Water Cooled?)
MESSAGE: Wow, I didn't know that Tom. How did the user fill the water tank or receptical?
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Post# 1076-6/4/2001-12:43 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (Air Dry on Hot Days)
MESSAGE: Louis, not a stupid thought if you were using the dryer outside on a hot day. Before we got the gas run outside for the dryers, I used a full size Whirlpool electric dryer outside on 115 volts, which gave it about 1400 watts of heat. On hot summer afternoons, it would dry a load of permanent press, spun at 1140 in about 35 minutes. So while it was not air fluff, it was pretty close to it, but you would have to have the dryer outside and have the cabinet of the dryer exposed to the sun to take advantage of the heat. Now if you had a dryer in an attic that got very hot, you might be able to dry without heat during the summer, but you would have to make sure it was vented to the outside so that the mositure did not stay in the attic to slow the drying. While I do not generally use the outside dryers in bitter cold, the very low humidity in cold weather makes for very fast drying inspite of the cold temperature. TT
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Post# 1077-6/4/2001-12:48 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Dryers with Antibacterial Option - ???? (Frigidaire washer )
MESSAGE: Rich, that kinda came about at the same time as cold water washing and was a way to sanitize the machine. You set the water level to minimum, used cold water, I think, added a cup of bleach and let 'er rip from the sanitize setting (final rinse on regular cycle). Supposedly it sanitized the machine for the next load, but I wondered how with the slow spinout it would get the upper part of the basket, unless you used normal agitate speed and it just splashed so badly that it threw water up there. TT
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Post# 1078-6/4/2001-12:49 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Microwave
MESSAGE: they were all 220 volt also.
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Post# 1079-6/4/2001-12:50 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Microwave
MESSAGE: It was a long time ago in a house in a wealthy part of town, but it was there then. This was before kitchen remodeling became the favorite parlor game of the nation.
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Post# 1080-6/4/2001-12:53 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Microwave (Water Cooled?)
MESSAGE: John said that there was a little slide out drawer, clearly visible in early Amana wall oven styles that you used to add water. They soon found that water cooling of the magnetron was not necessary, paving the way for $49 units from the third world. TT
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Post# 1081-6/4/2001-14:36 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Signing In (1961 Model versus 1970`s)
MESSAGE: Hi Jon
You`ve really got to catch up quick here, been away for the weekend and what happens, hundreds of posts to catch up on that will teach me!!
The machine that Louis posted was the first Keymatic model made in 1961, and was produced until the seventies when Hoover invented the new "Matchbox" style, square box , glass door, S/Steel door trim, the one you used, and the style we know today.
If I remember rightly the red keyplate was for cottons/nylons, heavy wash options, whilst the white keyplate was for woollens/delicates,rinse/spin etc.
I kinda always thought that this type of machine operation would stay around forever, with every new fabric produced all you had to do was make a new keplate. Who needs "PC Update, Pah!!
What did you think of little old IOW, I assume it was the West Cowes area, I think Louis and Scott would be right at home there, visiting The Queen Mum, in Queen Victoria`s residence, taking afternoon tea.
Cheers for now, Mike
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Post# 1082-6/4/2001-16:21 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: THE GREATEST HISTORY LESSON EVER TOLD (Revising Dream Machine List Now!)
MESSAGE: I think I need to do some revising of my dream list - maybe just add a few! That AMC would be sweet as well as an ABC-O-Matic, and Apex or Universal automatic and a few others. Dream and dream.....
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Post# 1083-6/4/2001-16:27 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix POTD (Hard or Soft?)
MESSAGE: I love the size of the cylinder on the Duomatic for use as just a washer, but the suspension can't always take that much. Usually about 1/2 - 2/3 full of dry clothes is about all I force it to tolerate - wouldn't want to need any shock absorbers anytime soon either. If I use the drying cycle after washing, I have to be careful about how much I load into it and what types of fabrics they are.
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Post# 1084-6/4/2001-16:50 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (silly question)
MESSAGE: Fresh air and vintage Downy - no other fragrance like it. Try your sheets once and you'll be hooked. My t-shirt was dried outside Saturday and still smelled fresh this morning. Reminds me of my grandma's house too - there's a lot of "charm" and drama in the whole process too.
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Post# 1085-6/4/2001-16:54 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (silly question)
MESSAGE: Right on, sister! Besides, how are your neighbors supposed to see that you have the whitest wash on the block if your clothes are down the basement in the dryer, for heavens sake! ;-)
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Post# 1086-6/4/2001-16:57 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Dryers with Antibacterial Option - ???? (not a clue but sounds like)
MESSAGE: I have never heard of this before - I always assumed it was a germicidal lamp on older dryers. Guess you could just use the timed cycle on any dryer and get the same, pointless, results.
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Post# 1087-6/4/2001-17:03 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (Clothes Lines)
MESSAGE: Silly rules aren't they - usually, around here are only "covenants" of the neighborhood or development put into place many years ago. The covenants for my neighborhood prohibited residency to all but caucasians. Discriminatory covenants were made unlawful in the early 60's, but I'll bet the neighbors would be crabby if I lined the driveway with old washers for the summer!
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Post# 1088-6/4/2001-17:10 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Norge Laundromat
MESSAGE: Another interesting eBay sale...
-ph
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1149083243
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Post# 1089-6/4/2001-17:10 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (Clothes Lines)
MESSAGE: Wow, I didn't think they had stuff like that in the north, and in a "later model" neighborhood like yours to boot...
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Post# 1090-6/4/2001-17:16 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Easy Spindrier
MESSAGE: I notice in someone's profile they mention a 1965 Easy Spindrier. I did not realize these were still being manufactured in 1965. Does anyone know when they last were produced (in America)?
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Post# 1091-6/4/2001-18:14 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Signing In (Inquiring minds must know!)
MESSAGE: Hi Mike, The following question is not meant to sound naughty, but... So to operate the Keymatic, you take this Key or Keyplate and insert it into the timer slot on the Washer to start it? Did the machine slowly but surely suck the thing into the timer assembly in set increments, or did it run like a clock motor and slowly pull it in? Could you push the key in further than just at the start position, lets say if you just wanted a rinse and spin? Or am I picturing this operation totally wrong?
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Post# 1092-6/4/2001-19:33 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: A little help with the Lady
MESSAGE: I can't seem to figure out the significance of the settings on the Lady Kenmore dryer. Any clues or help will be appreciated.
There are three buttons: start, air and heat (I could figure that out). The control knob has numbers from 1 to 8. 1 & 2 being the dryest settings, 3 through 6 are normal, and 7 & 8 are damp.
I dried a load of towels and rags (that were washed in the econoline front loader -- so they weren't super extracted). I used the setting number 6. The dryer ran for approx 30 minutes. The maximum exhaust temperature was 145 degrees and the dryer shut off at 100 degrees. All except a heavy floor mat were dry.
Also, if I use the 'air' setting, do the numbers have any significance?
I guess this model came out before the 30+ minute air cycle to keep wrinkles from setting in.
A little side note, I do notice that the Downey enhancer does help eliminating wrinkling if the clothes sit in the dryer after it shuts off.
Steve 1-18
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Post# 1093-6/4/2001-19:49 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: A little help with the Lady
MESSAGE: The numbers are just the dryness level. On most other dryers you have the auto setting with a mark noting the 'normal' setting. However yours has the numbers, just as John's does. I believe his was set at 5 and each time I used it everythig was dry, but not over cooked. The exhaust temp seems right on target. The numbers do not mean anything on the air setting. You should have a timed cycle on there too. It would be on the bottom half of the knob. You can use that for air only or if you don't want to use the auto dry cycle.
QOTS
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Post# 1094-6/4/2001-20:46 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (Clothes Lines)
MESSAGE: In Canada, things seem much more European. If you look down the back lane behind my house, you'd see that everyone with the exception of 1 house has a clothes line. This is common in almost every neighborhood here. And they are used. On any nice day, you'll see lines and lines of people's clean drying laundry in the backyard! I am actually shocked that this could be banned as unsightly!
Eddy
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Post# 1095-6/4/2001-21:02 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Signing In (Keymatic & IOW)
MESSAGE: Hi Mike:
I was charmed by the IOW. It reminded me of what Cape Cod is to Boston. A place for London folk to get away and a community with a long history with the Sea. I remember comparing real estate values and being shocked at the prices there.
So the Keymatic I used was a 1970's model!! Wow there must be some of them still around, I'd love to get my hands on one. It was a cool machine. Robert here asked me if it had that counter rotating disk in the back of the basket but to be honest I never actually looked inside since I thought it was constructed like any old tubmler.
Now that the Dyson machine has been out for awhile what if any has been the reaction to its cleaning ability? Have you seen any press on it lately? Have you seen any machines in the stores? I wrote for literature but they did not respond to my request.
Are you coming over for the Wash-In in August?
Cheers Jon
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Post# 1096-6/4/2001-21:08 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Laundromat (Nice Norges!)
MESSAGE: Peter There was a dry cleaners near my childhood home that had these machines for dry cleaning. They were turquoise. I always loved the swoopy doors! So Jetsons!!!
JEt
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Post# 1097-6/4/2001-21:32 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Laundromat (Nice Norges!)
MESSAGE: Hi Jet! Are you from Boston originally? Scott
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Post# 1098-6/4/2001-21:37 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: A little help with the Lady
MESSAGE: Steve1-18:
Actually, it did. The Lady Kenmore Dryer that you have came out in 1966 (if that's the correct one you are discribing...... a lever switch on the bottom most part of the console, three push-buttons in the middle of the console and a dryness control knob at the right of the console). The first "Wrinkle-Guard" model didn't come out until 1969 (and that would be the one with the "flip down" woodgrain looking cover).
--Charles--
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Post# 1099-6/4/2001-21:38 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Laundromat (Nice Norges!)
MESSAGE: I agree with you, Scott. Those are some nice looking Norges.
--Charles--
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Post# 1100-6/4/2001-21:42 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Laundromat (Nice Norges!)
MESSAGE: Scott, I was born here and grew up in Upper New York State. So I have alittle NY in me and alittle NE too!
IT was there that I saw the Norges.
jet
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Post# 1101-6/5/2001-02:51 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Signing In (Naughty `but` Nice)
MESSAGE: Hi Robert, Oh for a Keyplate!!! The Keyplate was a rigid piece of plastic four inches square,(size never mattered then)on each side was a number of ridges cut out which corresponded to a precise washing programme, with the keyplate turned over you had up to eight possible programmes on each plate.
The ridges in the plate then aligned with rods inside the machine connected to the programmer, still trying to find out what type of timer etc.
The Keyplates had the seven main HLCC laundry programmes, Home Laundry Care Codes)set by the British Textile Council of the time, these gave a precise programme of wash agitation, time/temp & rinse/spin,(never had a Holy Grail experience over here). Extra programmes where for pre-wash, Rinse/Spin or spin only etc.
Now then, instructions for use:
1. Take the Keplate firmly in hand and determine mode of operation.
2.Align Keyplate with recognised slot and place in outer rim.
3.Once aligned use enough pressure to slide in until resistance is felt.
4. Sit back,relax& enjoy.....(whilst machine does the wash)
There!!! easy peasy!!!
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 1102-6/5/2001-03:45 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: Clash of the Titans..........
MESSAGE: Jon, glad you enjoyed the IOW, great place to rest & relax...especially the yacht club.
The new model Keymatic that you used did have just the s/steel drum with tumbler action, as we are used to today. The first version, 1961 and in Louis`s pics, was a very different machine, sloping drum with a drop down door that you could use as a shelf. The drum was made of vitreous enamel (bluey/black speckled colour) and was mounted on a rigid steel chasis.At the back of the drum was a "Hoover-Active Wash Paddle" as used in hoover single and twin-tubs, which provided extra agitation for the wash if required. There was a switch on the fascia to switch the paddle on/off.I`ll keep up the search, there`s gotta be one somewhere???
Now to the Dyson, yep all the big stores have them and now the machines are set up to show you the actual wash action, and have a running video showing design, production & testing. They use red and white towels to show the cross-over wash action which is very impressive, I really feel passionate about James Dyson and his company, British Designer and Entrapaneur, puts his money where his mouth is, and is prepared to take on the mighty giants to show that a better product can be designed,produced& marketed.
For me personally, love the design and technology but £1000 for a coloured box of plastic does not do it for me, if it was all cool metal then yes, rather spend that kindda dosh on Miele/Asko Asea. Looks a great machine as well, there has been a lot of PR about the wash performance and results, most independant test results saying not much to choose on wash performance over Bosch/AEG/Miele etc, where you do gain is time and load capacity.
But....Watch This Space.... Titan is coming..... Any Day Now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cheers, Mike
p.s. I have full colour brochures, if you want to send address to my e-mail(chestermike@yahoo.co.uk) and I`ll post one on.I cant make this years Wash-In due to committments, but if anything changes...
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Post# 1103-6/5/2001-06:02 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: trouble
MESSAGE: When I signed on, none of the read messages from yesterday have changed color to show that they have been read. I had an incident with this yesterday after posting a reply also. What am I doing wrong? I have reloaded so often that the NRA is sending me membership applications. Has there been a change in the use and care instructions? veys mir
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Post# 1104-6/5/2001-06:09 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Bendix POTD (Hard or Soft?)
MESSAGE: Greg, one of the few good things CU had to say about the combos in general was that because of the larger drum they tended to wash better than the regular tumbler washers of the time. The Duomatic, however, rated near the top of even the agitator washers, just under the WP, as I remember, when tested so it is a very good washer. I am sure that after almost 50 years the shocks are weakened to varying degrees in all of our Duomatics. Half to two thirds full was a regular load as recommended by the manufacturer. Tom
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Post# 1105-6/5/2001-06:11 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (silly question)
MESSAGE: Who's home to notice and with the air pollution how long will they stay white? dryer devotee
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Post# 1106-6/5/2001-06:18 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (Charleston had covenants )
MESSAGE: charleston had covenants not only for cloths lines but also for blacks and Jews ... I still hang stuff out and that is one of the main reasons why I am in the swamp lands and country side of SC
Philippe
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Post# 1107-6/5/2001-06:19 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: A little help with the Lady
MESSAGE: Jason, Steve's is before the time option. We found one of these in beautiful shape except for some minor things like a broken belt so we fixed it up and I used it a while. It worked great unless you put too large a load in it and things sorta settled against the sensors as the load dried which could give uneven results. We sold it in the used appliance booth John keeps in Boonsborough. TT
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Post# 1108-6/5/2001-06:24 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Laundromat (Nice Norges!)
MESSAGE: I would like to find one of the door glass pieces for the Norge combo/drycleaner at a flea market like I did for the Duomatic. It would make a neat salad bowl or ice bucket. TT
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Post# 1109-6/5/2001-06:29 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Laundromat (We to had a Norge laundry )
MESSAGE: I grew up in Manchester N.H and would ride my bike all over town to diffrent laundromats. when the Norge Village opened up with Dry Clean machines it was the talk of the town
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Post# 1110-6/5/2001-06:40 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (Charleston had covenants )
MESSAGE: I lived in Greenbelt, MD, which was a planned community built during the Roosevelt adminsitration. The population quotas were originally set to mirror the percentage of Protestants, Jews and Catholics in the area, which put the town light years ahead of many neighborhoods, but no matter what religion you were, the clothes had to be off the lines by 4 PM. I don't think that applied anymore when I lived there, but there were still lots of rules for the co-op. The houses were equipped originally with a two bowl porcelain kitchen sink with one really deep side for laundry and a sliding cover that formed a drainboard over the unused bowl. I have a copy of part of a film shown at the General Motors Futurama at the 1939 World's Fair and it briefly shows a lady doing wash in an Easy Spindryer at her Greenbelch home. TT
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Post# 1111-6/5/2001-06:58 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Signing In (Naughty `but` Nice)
MESSAGE: Thanks Mike, it would be really interesting to see one of these early Keymatics.
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Post# 1112-6/5/2001-06:59 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: stoves everywhere (I wish)
MESSAGE: I wish I had know you guys a few years ago I might have found parts for my easy spinner ... I really miss that thing...
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Post# 1113-6/5/2001-06:59 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: trouble
MESSAGE: I don't think its you Tom. The program still does some unexplained things. When that happens to me I just look for my last post and I know I left off right around there.
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Post# 1114-6/5/2001-07:22 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: trouble
MESSAGE: You can also use the History function to check where you left off. Hold down the control (Ctrl) key and push the letter H. A box will come up with all the sites you visited and you can select the last message viewed from that list.
Or, you can always post a message right before signing off, then just look for your last posting for where you left off. This is an easy way to find your place and, you will have had "the last word!"
Have a great day all.......
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Post# 1115-6/5/2001-07:40 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: trouble
MESSAGE: Thanks, Robert, That's what I do also, but sometimes there are situations that I want to verify are not caused by problems here. TT
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Post# 1116-6/5/2001-07:44 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: trouble
MESSAGE: Thanks, Greg, for the history lesson. I am printing it for future reference. TT
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Post# 1117-6/5/2001-07:58 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: Maytag to acquire Amana
MESSAGE: Press release went out this morning.
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Post# 1118-6/5/2001-08:32 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: trouble
MESSAGE: It has been doing that to me too Tom. But for some reason if I click on a few posts the little man that changes the color of the posts wakes up and the ones I have looked at change color.
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Post# 1119-6/5/2001-08:35 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: A little help with the Lady
MESSAGE: WHOOPS
Guess it would have helped if I looked for the year or remembered what year the machine was.
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Post# 1120-6/5/2001-08:40 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: DCI-58
MESSAGE: Robert,
I remember seeing alot of DCI-58's in the Sacred Graveyard pics, but you have a '59 in the basement? Why don't you have a matching set?
-ph
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Post# 1121-6/5/2001-08:42 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag to acquire Amana
MESSAGE: Guys,
Did we ever figure out who makes Amana's washers since Raytheon sold Amana off to Goodman and Alliance Commercial Laundry Systems? If Alliance actually makes the washer, the present design will probably endure...
-ph
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Post# 1122-6/5/2001-08:45 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Signing In (Hoover Keyplate)
MESSAGE: Sounds like the key pushed in on switches, kinda like pressing the buttons on a Maytag machine, and a timer automatically turned to the correct program...
-ph
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Post# 1123-6/5/2001-08:53 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: trouble (cool function)
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg, now that I've arrived at the Rock Pile, I just tried that CTRL+H History function and it works great. I never knew about that before.
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Post# 1124-6/5/2001-08:55 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag to acquire Amana
MESSAGE: That leaves Maytag, Whirlpool, GE and WCI left. Who's next on the chopping block??? Look at all the different brands in the 1954 CU report and look at us now, its just a shame.
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Post# 1125-6/5/2001-08:58 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Wasco Extract-o-matic in CT
MESSAGE: There's a guy on the Wascomat coin owners BBS that is trying to sell a Wascomat Extract-o-matic model P10. He's in Conneticut. The P10 is a really cute machine, softmount, 300+ G's extraction. I don't know how much one would go for, but you New England boys might want to try for it before he takes it to the Krusher.
-ph
LINK: http://www.wascomat.com
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Post# 1126-6/5/2001-08:59 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: DCI-58 (Frigidaire WCI-58 & DCI-58)
MESSAGE: Very good question Peter. Here's the deal, the link below shows what we found at the farm. The washer came home to Minneapolis and Jetcone took the dryer home to Boston. This was when I was still living with my ex-partner in his house and I was trying to be somewhat conservative on space. Now that I have more room, Jon is talking about send the DCI-58 back to Minnie so we can re-unite the set.
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/unimatic1140/vwp?.dir=/Z_Sacred+Junkyard&.dnm=My+WCI-58+pre-restoration.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 1127-6/5/2001-09:00 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Signing In (Hoover Keyplate)
MESSAGE: I think the key was more than that Peter. It sounds like the key acted as the cams for the timer.
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Post# 1128-6/5/2001-09:00 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag to acquire Amana
MESSAGE: Well, we could incorporate, snatch the undervalued brands from the current list of manufacturers and revitalize the laundry industry. I bet we could get Norge, Kelvinator and Westinghouse from Maytag and Elux fairly inexpensively...
-ph
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Post# 1129-6/5/2001-09:09 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag to acquire Amana
MESSAGE: And Robert, remember, the comment about each brand had a differentiator as its approach to the wash process, that was one of the competitive differences among the brands. Like you said, it's now ho-hum. But, I'd sure like to get those huge SS dryer drums in Maytag's line. So small to support both Atlantis & Neppies.
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Post# 1130-6/5/2001-09:31 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag to acquire Amana
MESSAGE: This kinda brings things to closure. Waaaaay back when, Maytag bought their freezers from Amana. Now they are buying Amana. I wonder if their refrigerators will get better. TT
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Post# 1131-6/5/2001-09:32 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: trouble
MESSAGE: Jason, mine don't change color unti I have posted a response and reloaded. tom
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Post# 1132-6/5/2001-09:59 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag to acquire Amana
MESSAGE: It's really like what happened in the car industry even before WWII. If you want a real shock, look through old Electrical Dealer and Appliance Manufacturer magazines from the 30s and see how many different brands of appliances there were and how close we were to many automatic washers just before the war. Blackstone showed one that would have gone into production if the US had not entered the war. A lot of these small operations closed for defense contracts during WWII and never came back to making appliances. Either that or when things began to need UL certification they decided it was easier to close than to make safe appliances. It is funny though how some companies can see ahead and others not. In the World's Fair film, Westinghouse had a big exhibit with ELECTRO a huge metal robot with all of these gears and motors that moved various parts of him, telling about progress and th ehome of tomorrow. WH had bought Conover's dishwasher manufacturing and had a pretty respectable drop door dishwasher, but their idea of a modern laundry is about as far off the beam as you would want for an appliance company. They showed this bulky sort of counter, like kitchen islands of today, with three tubs with agitators in them in a triangle around a spinner, all flush with the counter. You washed in one, spun out, then rinsed in the second, spun and rinsed in the third and spun again. It looked more like a commercial installation than a home, sort of like those what is the name, Wash a Mats(?) that had the two tubs with the Maytag agitators, later WP Surgilators and the extractor in between. But with Bendix having an automatic and Blackstone working on theirs I wonder why WH did not show something more sophisticated than a spindry washer. TT
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Post# 1133-6/5/2001-11:50 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: DCI-58 (Frigidaire WCI-58 & DCI-58)
MESSAGE: Does this mean we have to look out for a WCI-59 to match your dryer?
-ph
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Post# 1134-6/5/2001-12:14 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: DCI-58 (I have one)
MESSAGE: I have a WCI-59 in the attic. I just like the '59 dryer because its turquoise and its an air-flow model. Frigidaire Air-Flow dryers dry faster, at a much cooler temp than the Filtrators, but the clothes come out almost as soft as they do from a Filtrator. Kenmore and Whirlpool dryers have such a high airflow that the clothes come out with such a harsh feeling to them, at least as compared to a Frigidaire dryer. You'll have to try it at the convention.
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Post# 1135-6/5/2001-12:19 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: 54 Consumer Reports
MESSAGE: Hey Robert
Thanks for posting those consumer articles...ab fab reading! I have a question for you. Do you know how fast the Apex spun the clothes? The 54 Consumer Reports tests of washing machines stated the Frigidaire extracted the most water from clothes, leaving .57 percent. The second highest was the Apex at .72 percent.
The discussion of the models says nothing...just about every machine was rated "average" on water extraction, with Frigidaire being the favorable exception and Speed Queen and Bendix Economat being the negative exceptions. They don't list RPMs or even percent of moisture left in clothes. It seemed funny because in the narrative, CR goes on about choosing a washer with better extraction because it will save gas, electricty, and run time in a dryer, and your back when lugging heavy wet wash to the yard if you hang-dry. Then they provide practically no differentiation between the machines when it comes to extraction.
It made me curious about the Apex and its RPMs. Didn't the Norges spin above-average RPMs back then also?
Rich
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Post# 1136-6/5/2001-12:55 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Applianceville Statistics
MESSAGE: If your like me and like statistics, you’ll enjoy these two charts I created about our cyber-appliance activity. We’re definitely a busy group, with lots to talk about. See these two picture-charts at the link below…
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/miscbrands00/vwp?.dir=/Applianceville+Stats&.src=ph&.dnm=Number+of+Posts+we+do.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/miscbrands00/lst%3f%26.dir=/Applianceville%2bStats%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 1137-6/5/2001-12:57 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 54 Consumer Reports (Apex RPM's)
MESSAGE: The Apex spun at about 680rpm, the Norge about 625rpm. BUT the Apex had a really wide bouncing-basket tub which made for stronger G-forces!
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Post# 1138-6/5/2001-13:30 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Applianceville Statistics
MESSAGE: Oh dear! I guess we created a ghost town over at Yahoo! Whatever will become of it?
-ph
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Post# 1139-6/5/2001-13:36 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Applianceville Statistics
MESSAGE: Yes we did but this place feels more like home and is much better than Yahoo.
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Post# 1140-6/5/2001-13:38 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: Off Balance
MESSAGE: I know I'm off balance, but why oh why do I keep getting reminded? LOL
Robert, is there any way you can load the OOB buzzer noise into the page so when we do get buzzed we can hear it?
QOTS
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Post# 1141-6/5/2001-13:41 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: 57 on Home Page
MESSAGE: Robert, the 57 Frigidaire is pulsating with the timer in the OFF position. TT
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Post# 1142-6/5/2001-14:06 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Applianceville Statistics
MESSAGE: I for one have not missed Yapoo's antics. I simply look at the site to see who is on Messenger.
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Post# 1143-6/5/2001-15:42 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Off Balance (Yes, But)
MESSAGE: I thought it would be fun to record the buzzer sound on my '57 Lady Kenmore and have it automatically sound when you get the "you haven't logged in page". BUT those of us who work in offices might not want to annouce to the entire office that our wash-load went unbalanced, so to speak, so I decided not to do that. I was however thinking it would be fun to add washer sounds to the "Appliance Audio Page", so I can add the buzzer there.
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Post# 1144-6/5/2001-15:42 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 57 on Home Page (Oh for god sakes)
MESSAGE: Yes, the timer is shot.
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Post# 1145-6/5/2001-15:46 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Applianceville Statistics (more useless information)
MESSAGE: Since I posted the CU reports, here is a list of the most popular and unpopular reports...
Issue Number of Request for article*
May-37 25
Feb-59 19
Mar-40 17
Feb-46 15
May-48 15
Jul-46 14
Aug-58 14
May-46 13
Sep-49 13
Apr-48 12
Mar-47 12
Jun-48 12
Feb-48 12
Jul-48 11
Jul-50 11
Feb-54 10
Oct-46 10
Jan-48 10
Mar-54 10
Oct-47 9
Nov-52 9
Oct-55 9
Jan-57 8
Feb-47 8
Nov-53 7
Dec-52 (dw) 6
Nov-50 6
*This is the total number of requests divided number of pages in each article
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Post# 1146-6/5/2001-15:53 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: 57 on Home Page
MESSAGE: That might be, but Robert gets many kudos for making the pulsator pulse 1 7/8's of an inch to the scale of the pic!
-ph
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Post# 1147-6/5/2001-15:55 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Off Balance (Yes, But)
MESSAGE: Great idea to ad an off balance buzzer to the Audio page. I never heard one, so if you do I will finally get my maiden buzz!
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Post# 1148-6/5/2001-16:08 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: Calypso dry-cleaner?
MESSAGE: I found this on the web...interesting. Seems Whirlpool is claiming the Calypso machine can handle most dry cleaning jobs...even suits. Hmmm...
http://www.kwtv.com/investigators/consumer/CW2601.htm
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Post# 1149-6/5/2001-16:13 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Calypso dry-cleaner? (oops!)
MESSAGE: why didn't my link work??
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Post# 1150-6/5/2001-16:19 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: Oh...duh...I see
MESSAGE: OK...I see the URL link to share box now...
Hey let's get one of these inflatable washers and fill it with foam in Robert's backyard during the convention!!!! What frolicing fun that would be!
LINK: http://www.funtimehire.co.uk/washing.html
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Post# 1151-6/5/2001-16:21 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Calypso dry-cleaner? (here's the Calypso link)
MESSAGE: Here is the link to that newstory on the Calypso washing clothes that could previously only go to a drycleaner..
LINK: http://www.kwtv.com/investigators/consumer/CW2601.htm
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Post# 1152-6/5/2001-16:53 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: Classicappliances e-mail not working
MESSAGE: Robert, I tried to send the sears scans to the addy and it keeps getting returned. It says it has a permanent fatal error. Should I send them your personal addy?
Jason
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Post# 1153-6/5/2001-17:16 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: trouble (cool function)
MESSAGE: Next to the back button in Internet Explorer, there is a small down arrow button - if you click on that, it will show a window with your last 9 or 10 pages viewed and can click on the one you want to return to.
In Netscape, you can click and hold on the back button and the same list (only longer I think) will come up and you can move down (with the button held down on the mouse) and move to the page you want.
Ctrl-H is also a nice feature for deleting pages you don't want anyone to see you've looked at - if you were on someone else's computer, etc.
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Post# 1154-6/5/2001-17:28 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Off Balance (Appliance audio)
MESSAGE: You can replace some of the short sound bytes with Windows alerts, etc. My machine played the audio of the 55 Frigidaire going into spin at every start up. The buzzer would be fun for "critical error" alerts, we could record the high speed spin start up of the Bendix washers, on and on.
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Post# 1155-6/5/2001-17:43 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Off Balance (Appliance audio)
MESSAGE: Already did that. I just need to find more washer sounds to replace the default sounds
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Post# 1156-6/5/2001-18:47 ||| appliguy (Vienna Va.)
SUBJECT: RE: Does anyone have a picture of a 1971 Kenmore 800 Automatic washer (re 1971 Kenmore 800 thanks Charles & Uni)
MESSAGE: Charles,
Your description of the 1971 Kenmore 800 washer sounds just like what I remember my moms machine being like. The only thing I don't remember on hers was the fabric softner dispenser. My mom has used Bounce in the dryer for probably about 40 years. In fact my moms 800 looked very similar to LK with the pull down panel but it didn't have one. My favorite part was watching the detergent being swept into the machine from the dispenser at the start of the wash cycle. I do remember that My moms 800 had a gold roto swirl agitator with the word kenmore printed on the top. Uni thanks for the scan but neither of those machines were the one I am looking for. I would give anything to meet you. You are such a knowledgeable guy. I f you ever come to visit Tom & John here in Maryland give me a call as I live not to far from them over in Northern Va. My number is 703-938-4908. I am hoping that maybe I can get to the washer convention and meet all you wonderful club members. Only time will tell. Anyways thanks again to everyone who answered my post PAT COFFEY
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Post# 1157-6/5/2001-19:06 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Oh...duh...I see
MESSAGE: (gasp!!) That looks like so much fun - our own version of "Studs and Suds!"
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Post# 1158-6/5/2001-20:13 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: 57 on Home Page
MESSAGE: What a hoot, Tom? I had to go look for myself. (LOL)
Steve 1-18
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Post# 1159-6/5/2001-20:15 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Off Balance (Other sounds)
MESSAGE: How about "How Dry I Am?"
Steve 1-18
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Post# 1160-6/5/2001-21:14 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Classicappliances e-mail not working
MESSAGE: Thats strange Jason, the there is a 5mb limit on attachments on email though this server. Yahoo limit is 3mb. How big are the files? Are you sending it to webmaster@classicappliances.com?
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Post# 1161-6/5/2001-21:16 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Off Balance (Sounds Please)
MESSAGE: Send me wav's or mp3 sound files and I can upload them to the Audio File Page! Just check the settings on your records, these sounds do not need to be saved in hi-stero formats.
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Post# 1162-6/5/2001-22:39 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Restoration Begins on the 1952 Whirlpool Washer
MESSAGE: I started restoring the 1952 Whirlpool tonight. I will photograph the whole process and let you guys follow along with the restoration. This will be similar to the Lady Kenmore restoration except for the fact that this Whirlpool is about as vintage Whirlpool as you can find, as it's only the second design that Whirlpool produced. You Whirlpool/Kenmore guys will see a lot of differences between the later belt drive models and this very early machine.
Here are the pictures for tonight.
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/whirlpool525/lst?&.dir=/1952+Whirlpool+Restoration+Part+1&.src=ph&.view=t&.last=1
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Post# 1163-6/5/2001-23:27 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Restoration Begins on the 1952 Whirlpool Washer
MESSAGE: Hi Robert;
Great pictures! I love that machine! I've seen a machine like that; maybe when I was around 9 or 10 years old. A neighbor had it, they were very impressed with my interest in washing machines and invited me in there apartment to see there washer in action. I remeber it had gray drain hose which most washers mfgs. use black rubber, and I remeber it did buzz at the end of the cycle, and also pop the lid open automaticaly which I thought was so cool! I can't wait to see more pictures! Good luck! I need to get a whirlpool like that for me! (LOL)
Robert
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Post# 1164-6/5/2001-23:55 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Restoration Begins on the 1952 Whirlpool Washer (Ya gotta love the belt drives!)
MESSAGE: Great to see you start on another machine, Robert. I like the subtle differences, between it and the "next generation." Still a very cool machine inside. The mechanicals are great. I'm amazed at what great shape it's in underneath. Hope the restore goes smoothly. I'm looking forward to the next round of pics.
Todd
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Post# 1165-6/5/2001-23:59 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: 57 on Home Page
MESSAGE: Always a fly in the oinment! ;-)
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Post# 1166-6/5/2001-00:10 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Restoration Begins on the 1952 Whirlpool Washer
MESSAGE: Amazing extras this machine had. One of the things I like about the very early machines was that for what we would consider now to be BOL (single cycle, 1 water level, etc.) back then, they were a wonderous marvel of American ingenuity. Beautiful machine!
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Post# 1167-6/5/2001-00:11 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Restoration Begins on the 1952 Whirlpool Washer
MESSAGE: And thanks for the quick posting of the new wallpaper!
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Post# 1168-6/5/2001-00:26 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Restoration Begins on the 1952 Whirlpool Washer
MESSAGE: Thanks for the fun, interesting pictures! Will look forward to the continuing story! I had not previously realized that the mechanism in these washers were different than the later models. It is interesting to study the diagram and try and see some of the differences and similarities. You may have told me but I did not remember about the light, off balance switch or end of cycle buzzer.
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Post# 1169-6/5/2001-00:27 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Restoration Begins on the 1952 Whirlpool Washer
MESSAGE: Robert I knew I was not going crazy...my great aunt's RCA Whirlpool had grey hoses as well!
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Post# 1170-6/5/2001-00:29 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Restoration Begins on the 1952 Whirlpool Washer (Ya gotta love the belt drives!)
MESSAGE: Yes I meant to comment as well on how, esp the motor looks so clean and practically like brand new!
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Post# 1171-6/5/2001-00:49 ||| rapidry1000 (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: 1952 Whirlpool Restoration
MESSAGE: Great pictures of the Whirlpool washer. I'm so impress by your immediate diagnosis of the problem. The design of this particular Whirlpool is quite contemporary with its sloped control panel. Looking forward to the next phase of the restoration.
Rapidry1000
Jim
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Post# 1172-6/6/2001-03:57 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: WESTINGHOUSE AND KELVINATOR
MESSAGE: Hi all! I have been looking for info on the web for Kelvinator and Westinghouse. I know you guys hate them but I really want to see what there product range looks like. They seem to be small fry in the states, but in Aus they are huge brand names, though only Westinghouse offers a washer, and its an badge egineered version of the LG front loader.
In fact if LG were sold in the states, I bet it would make some of the other makers take notice. LG's washers get noticed for there looks alone!!
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Post# 1173-6/6/2001-04:01 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag to acquire Amana (cool!!!)
MESSAGE: I would make an orbital burbalator with contoured staineless steel solid tub!! Bifold lid, and oversized controls, both on the more basic knob verison the knob/electronic version and really huge buttons and digital display electronic version.
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Post# 1174-6/6/2001-04:02 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag to acquire Amana (opps I almost forgot!)
MESSAGE: A slanty front loader with electronic controls styled with a hoover keymatic theme!!!
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Post# 1175-6/6/2001-05:58 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Applianceville Statistics
MESSAGE: Robert, love the term "opening night of Applianceville." Great graph but sorta sad, like moving from the only home you known and loved to a new home. This was a great move in the sense that we took our friends with us. I am glad that Steve left a forwarding address in his last message at the old site. Tom
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Post# 1176-6/6/2001-06:01 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: 57 on Home Page (Oh for god sakes)
MESSAGE: NOOOOOOOOOO! not a shot timer. Time to call MTS. TT
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Post# 1177-6/6/2001-06:24 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Calypso dry-cleaner? (here's the Calypso link)
MESSAGE: Rich, thanks for the story. I have printed it and will show it to the WP guys tonight when we go to the dinner sales meeting for the WP Calypso. I looked at the WP Calypso yesterday when I was in Best Buy misbehaving. Many of the machines do not have their energy tags, which I sorta thought they must display, so I could not compare to Neptune or Frigidaire FL, but the Calypso's tag said its hot water usage would cost $27 a yr with electric and 15 with gas. TT
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Post# 1178-6/6/2001-06:28 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: trouble (cool function)
MESSAGE: Greg, do I have a similar cycle in Netscrape? Thanks for all the good technical info. Young brains are so much fun. TT
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Post# 1179-6/6/2001-06:28 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Restoration Begins on the 1952 Whirlpool Washer (Spanners in the Works)
MESSAGE: Robert
Great pics and looking forward to seeing the Whirpool come to life once more,love the text in the pics, cool for us bods not having seen the insides of different top loading autos.
Do you have much trouble with nuts and bolts etc from older machines, as quite a few makes over here you could only change / refit machines if you had the original company tools /wrenches/spanners.
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 1180-6/6/2001-06:31 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Off Balance (Appliance audio)
MESSAGE: We also need to record the sucking slurping squeezing sounds of the Economat in extraction and a really off balance BD WP as it starts walking. TT
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Post# 1181-6/6/2001-06:33 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag to acquire Amana (I`ll Second That)
MESSAGE: But only if it has keyplates!!!!!!!
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 1182-6/6/2001-06:37 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Restoration Begins on the 1952 Whirlpool Washer
MESSAGE: Our suds-saver Kenmore with the waterfall front had a black drain hose and a gray suds hose. TT
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Post# 1183-6/6/2001-06:53 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: WESTINGHOUSE AND KELVINATOR (there gone)
MESSAGE: Hi Arrrooohhh, your not going to find anything on the American Westinghouse and Kelvinator names, as they both have been retired. They use the name "Frgidaire" for all their WCI-Electrolux products.
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Post# 1184-6/6/2001-06:59 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Restoration Begins on the 1952 Whirlpool Washer (Spanners in the Works)
MESSAGE: Over the past five years, I've collected quite a few special vintage Frigidaire tools. For Whirlpool, you only need a special spanner wrench, and a bearing installer tool. The spanner wrench (for the tub hold down nut) is still in use today. As a matter of fact the same spanner wrench that was used in the 1948 Whirlpool is still being used for the Calypso today! For others, I found ways of being creative and using substitute tools.
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Post# 1185-6/6/2001-07:04 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: WESTINGHOUSE AND KELVINATOR (there gone)
MESSAGE: I've seen White-Westinghouse machines, of course, they are just the same WCI/Frigidaire stuff we've seen for years. I used to have a WCI-Franklin style Kelvinator that was in my first house when I moved in. I saw the same washer yesterday at the Salvation Army "junk" auction.
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Post# 1186-6/6/2001-07:14 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: Laundromat Pic Of Day
MESSAGE: Wow Laundromats tumble 52 times a minute...My Neptune only tumbles 35 times a minute.I knew I liked my Westinghouse Slant Front for a reason!
Jet
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Post# 1187-6/6/2001-07:23 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Clash of the Titans.......... (Titan????)
MESSAGE: Mike what is TITAN??? Very curious here!
Jetcone
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Post# 1188-6/6/2001-07:32 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Laundromat (SALAD BOWL...)
MESSAGE: Tom: HAHAHAHAA! I would love to have salad out of that bowl!!! Call me!!
jon
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Post# 1189-6/6/2001-07:34 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Tearing down a Sqeed Queen
MESSAGE: I have finally gotten so disgusted with my garage that I did some work to get some of the "parts donor" machines on their way out and to the Krusher. I worked on the green 70's, reversing motor Speed Queen last night and saw a couple of interesting things. If anyone needs any parts from this machine, I'll be happy to pull them for you. Here are some pics that I snapped while I was working to show you some of the things I found pulling the tub.
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/surgilator/vwp?.dir=/%2761+Speed+Queen&.src=ph&.dnm=Back+of+torn+down+washer.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/surgilator/lst%3f%26.dir=/%252761%2bSpeed%2bQueen%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 1190-6/6/2001-07:36 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Clash of the Titans.......... (ChesterMike....Email)
MESSAGE: Hi mike I have tried to email you twice at your address to give you my mailing address but it has bounced back at me both times. Do I have it correct? chestermike@yahoo.co.uk??
Jon
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Post# 1191-6/6/2001-07:38 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag to acquire Amana
MESSAGE: App does that mean the Atlantis will finally get a stainless steel tub????
Jet
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Post# 1192-6/6/2001-07:38 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day
MESSAGE: Bendix home economists, working with clothing manufacturers, found that 52 rpm was the ideal speed for washing and 525 rpm for spinning.
When you get your Bendix done, you can do a washability test to see if the additional 20 "plunges" the clothes make in a 10 minute wash cycle make any difference.
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Post# 1193-6/6/2001-07:40 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag to acquire Amana (Stainless Tubs)
MESSAGE: I've already seen the SS tubs in the Atlantis here - are they not in your area? I think only the TOL models have SS.
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Post# 1194-6/6/2001-07:42 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: trouble (cool function)
MESSAGE: If you're using a mouse, hold down the back button - the list will come up and then while still holding the mouse button down, move down to the page you want and release the button, should take you right there.
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Post# 1195-6/6/2001-07:43 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Calypso dry-cleaner? (here's the Calypso link)
MESSAGE: Tom, if you go to Sears' web site & look up a Frigidaire, Kenmore, & Neppy, there is supposed to be a yellow energy tag that you can click on, when you bring up each model's initial page, and that will display the energy tag in Acrobat.
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Post# 1196-6/6/2001-07:44 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Applianceville Statistics
MESSAGE: Is there a minimum usage on the Yahoo club needed to keep it open? I would imagine that it's very little, but just wondering, we wouldn't want to lose some of the pictures in the Photos section of Imp. Bob's & Jeff's collections.
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Post# 1197-6/6/2001-07:47 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag to acquire Amana (Incorporate!!)
MESSAGE: Peter I like that Idea! I am actually in the process of incorporating our club under the name Robert gave it
"SRVAA-Society for the Restoration of Vintage Automatic Appliances". We could then buy all the brands and remake all the machines and under cut the current pricing to capture the market share. We can undercut because we have no research expense since we are using "old" technology!
Jet
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Post# 1198-6/6/2001-07:47 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day
MESSAGE: Gee Jon, you're just finding out the difference in tumble rates? I've know this for about 2 years now. A pitiful pittance of tumbles/minute for Neppy. And it gets slower as you moove down the cotton to handwash spectrum of options.
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Post# 1199-6/6/2001-07:49 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: DCI-58 (WCI-59 DCI-59)
MESSAGE: Peter I also had a 1959 set in white that I gave to the anonymous Donald down in CT. He is using them now but more are always wanted!
jet
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Post# 1200-6/6/2001-07:50 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day
MESSAGE: Greg I'll have to use standard dirt for that test right?
jet
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Post# 1201-6/6/2001-07:51 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag to acquire Amana
MESSAGE: Jon Charles, the higher end Atlantis already has a stainless stell wash tub. I wonder if Maytag will incorporate the 7.2 cu. ft. plus dryer drums. They sure need them.
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Post# 1202-6/6/2001-07:52 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag to acquire Amana (Stainless Tubs)
MESSAGE: No they have the old Norge porcelain tub here in white.
jet
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Post# 1203-6/6/2001-08:06 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Tearing down a Sqeed Queen (SQ boot)
MESSAGE: Greg is that outer tub boot still available? It looks like it would fit that ABc-Kelvinator too.
jet
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Post# 1204-6/6/2001-08:07 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: 57 on Home Page
MESSAGE: only you!
Only you would notice!!!!!!!
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Post# 1205-6/6/2001-08:10 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Oh...duh...I see
MESSAGE: Rich,
That is just wrong!!! LOLOLOLOL!!!
-ph
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Post# 1206-6/6/2001-08:11 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Clash of the Titans.......... (Titan v Dyson Contrarotator)
MESSAGE: Jon, Titan is the name given to the radically new, UK designed & produced front loading washing machine, with removable baskets along with a host of other features.
Martin Myerscough, the inventor deceided to form a company, design and build his machine following a simple conversation with a repair man. Funny how things happen!!!
Click on to Monotub.com to find out more, and let me know what you think.
Cheers Mike.
p.s. slapped wrist, my typo, should be chestermikeuk@yahoo.co.uk , will also send Titan info as well.......
LINK: Monotub.com
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Post# 1207-6/6/2001-08:11 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day
MESSAGE: Yes bob 35 tpm is slow but since the cycle runs from "intent to wash" thru to "cycle till the end of the known universe" it cleans really well. THE only problem is the earth will end before the machine does
jet!!!
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Post# 1208-6/6/2001-08:12 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Tearing down a Sqeed Queen (SQ boot)
MESSAGE: I think it's NLA ?? - to remove it, you have to stretch it over the spin tub flange and of course, it ripped! I think it may still do in a pinch, it only was torn a little at the top where the clamp goes any way. With a bit of silicone, it would still work. It seemed to be more plastic than rubber in this instance, plastic was probably a little more durable in later years.
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Post# 1209-6/6/2001-08:12 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag to acquire Amana
MESSAGE: I guess Grays isnt carrying the high end model here.It just looks like a swooped up Norge.
jon
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Post# 1210-6/6/2001-08:14 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day
MESSAGE: In lab controlled conditions. Rub some scraps of cloth inside your chimney and sew them to sheets and clothes like CU did in the early years - to be fair!
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Post# 1211-6/6/2001-08:17 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day
MESSAGE: Cool!! Now I know how to make Standard Dirt!
Tanks Greg!
jet
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Post# 1212-6/6/2001-08:19 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Clash of the Titans.......... (Monotub)
MESSAGE: Oh Yeah Mike we saw this site last year. So they are heading to production. Does it have the same or larger capacity as the Dyson?
jon
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Post# 1213-6/6/2001-08:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Tearing down a Sqeed Queen
MESSAGE: Thanks for the picts Greg, very cool. No wonder the poor thing was draining so slowly.
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Post# 1214-6/6/2001-09:06 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Applianceville Statistics
MESSAGE: Greg you can download those pictures and save them to a regular Yahoo photo album, then post a link here in the new site.
Another thing that would be nice would be to save our old post mesages from Yahoo to an archive file. Probably someone needs to volunteer to contact Yahoo and see if they can provide the posts in a text file, (although I bet the wont do it). Once they provide us with this file, I can upload it to the archive section of Applianceville. Or what else we could do, is copy our favorite posts (or series of Posts) to a file, merge all of our files together and then I could make an archive from the new file. If someone wants to organize this, go ahead and I will vounteer the part of getting the info onto the new site.
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Post# 1215-6/6/2001-09:08 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag to acquire Amana (Incorporate!!)
MESSAGE: Jon,
One of the main failure points for any company is to become focused on money and loose focus on the product. If we incorporated, we certainly would NOT loose our focus and would probably be very successful (not necessarily in the monitary sense).
-ph
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Post# 1216-6/6/2001-09:09 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag to acquire Amana (Stainless Tubs)
MESSAGE: Really Jon, here they are making them with Copper Tubs, there all nice and shiny at first.
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Post# 1217-6/6/2001-09:10 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Tearing down a Sqeed Queen (SQ boot)
MESSAGE: I don't think its big enough Jon.
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Post# 1218-6/6/2001-09:10 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day (per minute?)
MESSAGE: Jon,
Does that 32 tumbles a minute take into account pauses between chaning directions? I have a feeling that if you counted revolutions for one direction tumble period that it would be close to 50 rpms. I could be wrong, but the demo I've seen seems to have the clothes moving just as fast as any FL.
-ph
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Post# 1219-6/6/2001-09:12 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: DCI-58 (WCI-59 DCI-59)
MESSAGE: Jon,
More WCI's or more Donald??? ;)
-ph
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Post# 1220-6/6/2001-09:12 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Tearing down a Sqeed Queen (SQ boot)
MESSAGE: I thought those boots were still available, but if they are I bet not for long??? Maybe it seems more plastic like, cause its hardened over the years.
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Post# 1221-6/6/2001-09:21 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day
MESSAGE: More typos! Did they not have proofreaders back then? Look at the water leve descriptions in 1, 7 and 10...
-ph
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Post# 1222-6/6/2001-09:24 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Restoration Begins on the 1952 Whirlpool Washer (photo prints)
MESSAGE: Robert,
I guess the restore on the WP might closely mirror doing my 53 KM?
Has anyone tried printing out pics or ordering pics from Yahoo's associated photo services? I'd like to have these restoration pics in hardcopy for reference...
-ph
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Post# 1223-6/6/2001-09:26 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Tearing down a Sqeed Queen
MESSAGE: Greg,
So sad, but sacrafices must be made. I'm sure others will feel the same when I start working on my 1-18's...
-ph
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Post# 1224-6/6/2001-09:31 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day
MESSAGE: Yes, I noticed the same thing Peter. It's like on that Maytag brochure. I've thought about where the proofers were to. It's kinda funny. I doubt back then anyone was atuned enough to the wash process to notice the blunders.
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Post# 1225-6/6/2001-09:53 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day
MESSAGE: It's probably more the case that they hired a professional proofreader who really didn't know the product. The grammar and punctuation was good, but what it actually says they haven't a clue...
That, my friends, is exactly what I deal with for my fulltime job... ***big sigh***
-ph
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Post# 1226-6/6/2001-09:54 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day (bug?)
MESSAGE: Robert,
Look at my last post. Is it me, or did my signature "-ph" come up bolded or in a larger font?
-ph
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Post# 1227-6/6/2001-10:49 ||| RobGwisdala (Troy Ohio 45373)
SUBJECT: For Scottdamit.
MESSAGE: Hi Scott,
What dishwasher would you buy if there was only two models to pick from?
Here are the models that I am talking about=
Maytag Jetclean WU904(direct drive porcelain tub)
Maytag Jetclean MDB9150(direct drive SS tub)
I would pick the WU904.
Rob
ps= Appnut, What dishwasher would you pick? The WU904 or the MDB9150?
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Post# 1228-6/6/2001-10:55 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day
MESSAGE: The Bendix would perform better because it spun between the first and second deep rinses. I liked the atomic dirt tests that Bendix engineers used to prove that the Bendix Duomatic got clothes cleaner. Of course, it meant that you could not find them in a dark room or closet with a Geiger counter. TT
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Post# 1229-6/6/2001-10:57 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: trouble (cool function)
MESSAGE: Thanks again, Greg. TT
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Post# 1230-6/6/2001-10:58 ||| RobGwisdala (Troy Ohio 45373)
SUBJECT: Sunday's POTD(belt drive Maytag Jetclean dishwashers)
MESSAGE: Hi Robert,
I really enjoyed Sunday's POTD(belt drive Maytag Jetclean dishwashers).
Could you post the sales brochures for the belt drive Maytag dishwashers? I really like the belt driven Maytags very much!
Thank you.
Rob
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Post# 1231-6/6/2001-10:59 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Calypso dry-cleaner? (here's the Calypso link)
MESSAGE: Bob, Thanks. Tom
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Post# 1232-6/6/2001-11:08 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: DCI-58 (WCI-59 DCI-59)
MESSAGE: Someone is looking to get slapped all up and down the east coast. TT
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Post# 1233-6/6/2001-11:14 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag to acquire Amana
MESSAGE: Hi Jet! The Atlantis has actually been available with a stainless steel tub on certain models for some time now. Scott
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Post# 1234-6/6/2001-11:15 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Restoration Begins on the 1952 Whirlpool Washer
MESSAGE: Great pictures, Robert. That is such a cool machine. I remember several friends and neighbros that had that machine and matching dryer. One neighbor had the original Whirlpool, with the control knobs on the front of the console but still with a push-button lid. I thought that was cool. Your machine is in great shape.
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Post# 1235-6/6/2001-11:20 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day
MESSAGE: Yes, but does the fact that a new machine reverse tumbles have a bearing on its cleanability and how many tumbles per minute it has or needs? I know we love our old machines and I haven't used older tumblers enough to comment on their cleanability, but in my mind a reverse tumbling machine seems like it would give better action since it wouldn't let things "ball up" and etc. Comments?
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Post# 1236-6/6/2001-11:22 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Restoration Begins on the 1952 Whirlpool Washer (grey hoses)
MESSAGE: Your Majesty,
What is so special about grey hoses. In our Kingdom all hoses are grey. What is the usual color in your country?
QLOTOC
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Post# 1237-6/6/2001-11:23 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Applianceville Statistics
MESSAGE: I don't *think* there is as some of the clubs are idle for very long periods of time. Still it might not hurt to go over and post every now and then just giving the address of where we can be found, and that in itself will help keep it active.
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Post# 1238-6/6/2001-11:24 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day
MESSAGE: Well Bob since there is no WINDOW in this thing, unless he thoroughly read some statistics somewhere, he wouldn't be able to tell since he can't see what's going on! :-(
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Post# 1239-6/6/2001-11:26 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag to acquire Amana
MESSAGE: Bob, how large are Maytag dryer drums now? 7.2 feet is large! The Frigidaire dryers are 5.9 cubic feet I think.
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Post# 1240-6/6/2001-11:27 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag to acquire Amana (Stainless Tubs)
MESSAGE: That's interesting...I've only seen the Atlantis's previously with plastic tubs...
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Post# 1241-6/6/2001-11:27 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Restoration Begins on the 1952 Whirlpool Washer (Peter, come along with me!)
MESSAGE: Yes, peter this should be very similar to your '53 Kenmore. Why, don't you follow along with me in the restoration process with your new '53 Kenmore and take similar pictures as you go? I can go nice and slow and we can do this cross-country Whirlpool/Kenmore restore simultaneously!!
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Post# 1242-6/6/2001-11:30 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: For Scottdamit.
MESSAGE: If it was me, and those were my two dw choices, I would just get some vintage dishwasher racks and place the dirty dishes in the racks outside in the backyard and hope for a thunderstorm that evening.
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Post# 1243-6/6/2001-11:32 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Sunday's POTD(belt drive Maytag Jetclean dishwashers)
MESSAGE: someday I will get around to that too Rob.
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Post# 1244-6/6/2001-11:32 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: WESTINGHOUSE AND KELVINATOR
MESSAGE: Arrrooohhh, here's a link to an LG washer that is sold in the Netherlands. I like the big central dial. Is this sold in Australia too or are there other models? Louis
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysiusagain/vwp?.dir=/More+washers&.src=ph&.dnm=New+LG+washer.JPG&.view=t&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysiusagain/lst%3f%26.dir=/More%2bwashers%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 1245-6/6/2001-11:34 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day
MESSAGE: Since when, does not having a window, stop us washer boys from seeing what goes on inside?
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Post# 1246-6/6/2001-11:37 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day
MESSAGE: Jon, I guess that's because the Westinghouse has a smaller drum? The bigger the drum is, the less speed it needs for tumbling (the G-forces again). If your Neptune would tumble at 52 rpms I guess it would more spin the clothes than tumble. Louis
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Post# 1247-6/6/2001-11:37 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day
MESSAGE: Hi Jet! Does the Neptune use a long European type cycle? I had thought it was the standard 1/2 hour cycle. S
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Post# 1248-6/6/2001-11:44 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day
MESSAGE: Bob, that's not bad, that's good. My Miele does that too and so does my AEG. I'd rather not have a washer that doesn't slow down on the handwash cycle. Louis
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Post# 1249-6/6/2001-11:45 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: Pic of the day!
MESSAGE: I love this display today - it is real explicid. About what year Westinghouse is this from? I love this club better every day.
Peter
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Post# 1250-6/6/2001-11:47 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: WESTINGHOUSE AND KELVINATOR (LG washer )
MESSAGE: Louis is this washer have a larger than normal capacity than most FL Euro washers?
Peter
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Post# 1251-6/6/2001-11:50 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Restoration Begins on the 1952 Whirlpool Washer (grey hoses)
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, in the golden age of American washers, the majority of the hose were black rubber. It was very interesting and unusual for me to see the hoses on my great aunt's RCA Whirlpool. Today, the hoses are a dreadful corrugated plastic. They are so flimsy one must tie them down to keep them from coming out of the tub or pipe due to the force of the draining water. We should like to think that one can still purchase the rubber variety if one wishes.
QEOM
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Post# 1252-6/6/2001-11:52 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: WESTINGHOUSE AND KELVINATOR
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, we approve of the appearance of this LG machine. From what country does it originate? Is it known to be a dependable machine? Its door is very reminiscent of the Miele.
QEOM
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Post# 1253-6/6/2001-11:54 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: DCI-58 (WCI-59 DCI-59)
MESSAGE: Yes, it's a tough decision.
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Post# 1254-6/6/2001-11:57 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag to acquire Amana
MESSAGE: Scott, I've seen figures that vary from 6.6 to 6.9 cu. ft., but I believe it's more like 6.6
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Post# 1255-6/6/2001-11:58 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day
MESSAGE: Not even an H-axis toploader with a safety lid stopped me from doing that. Believe me, you don't want to open the lid at the beginning of the spincycle...
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Post# 1256-6/6/2001-11:59 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: For Scottdamit.
MESSAGE: Geez Uni. I think the 9150 would do a far better job than a thunderstorm. They're really quite good. Mike probably would say that his 7100 cleans up a storm--and I think he would say that.
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Post# 1257-6/6/2001-12:01 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day
MESSAGE: Louis, i realize that. It's just that I haven't gotten to play with a modern FLer with slower tumbling speeds yet.
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Post# 1258-6/6/2001-12:01 ||| jaxcubb (Woodstock, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day (RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day)
MESSAGE: One of the 2 things that I like about my Frigidaire F/L over my White-Westy unit (last machine), is that it (1) reverse tumbles the clothes, so they dont ball up, and (2) the high speed of the final spin. And I dont hear that "clank" when the drain pumped kicked in :-)
Has anyone tested the Frigidaire dryer that reverse tumbles? I remember seeing one a few years ago, so it's probably a WCI..er..junk
Mike
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Post# 1259-6/6/2001-12:05 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: WESTINGHOUSE AND KELVINATOR (LG capacity)
MESSAGE: Yes Peter, the LG has a 7 kilos drum (16lbs I believe) where the normal European washers have a capacity between 11 and 13 lbs. Now let's see, the drum is I think 68 litres which is around 2.4 cubic feet. The European washers are between 1.8 and 2.0 cubic feet. That makes the LG washer almost as big as the Frigmore. Louis
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Post# 1260-6/6/2001-12:08 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: WESTINGHOUSE AND KELVINATOR (LG Washer )
MESSAGE: If they make the LG for USA & in combo - I would be interested in purchasing - to replace my Equator - even though I love my Equator - I would like to get a bigger one
Peter
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Post# 1261-6/6/2001-12:09 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: WESTINGHOUSE AND KELVINATOR (LG country)
MESSAGE: Your Majesty,
The LG washing machine is a product made in Korea. We do not know if it is a dependable machine, we only know that it is not as well built as our Miele. On the other hand we do think it's a very fascinating piece of machinery since LG has managed to get a bigger drum in a washing machine that still has the size of the other European ones. The door of the LG is quite reminiscent of the Bosch Maxx washers, that alas are not available on the American market.
QLOTOC
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Post# 1262-6/6/2001-12:13 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day (RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day)
MESSAGE: Mike,
Most European dryers have reversing drums, which is necessary because the drums are smaller. My previous Zanker dryer didn't have the reverse action and every time I put the bed linens in I had to keep an eye on what was going inside. Sometimes I had to untangle the load a few times. Thankgod for reverse action.
Louis
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Post# 1263-6/6/2001-12:14 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: WESTINGHOUSE AND KELVINATOR (LG country)
MESSAGE: Thank you for that explanation, Your Majesty. We would definitely choose a Miele then over this LG machine; still its nice that people are thinking about these things.
QEOM
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Post# 1264-6/6/2001-12:15 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: WESTINGHOUSE AND KELVINATOR (LG Washer )
MESSAGE: Hi Peter,
They don't make a washer/dryer. Actually they don't even make a dryer, I guess the Korean market is not keen on dryers.
Louis
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Post# 1265-6/6/2001-12:22 ||| CHESTERMIKEUK (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: WESTINGHOUSE AND KELVINATOR (Direct Drive Motor)
MESSAGE: Hi Louis
According to the price reduction in a well known store in UK, its not very reliable. It has a Direct Drive Motor attached to the tub shaft, no belts etc. With the larger drum/load it appears not to have enough torque & power for total capacity loads. Coupled with large numbers of service calls, they are being sold off from £500 to £249..
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Post# 1266-6/6/2001-12:27 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the day! (1956)
MESSAGE: It's from my 1956 Westinghouse L-9 owners manual.
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Post# 1267-6/6/2001-12:30 ||| RobGwisdala (Troy Ohio 45373)
SUBJECT: RE: For Scottdamit.
MESSAGE: Hi Robert,
I take it that you DO NOT like modern day dishwashers(1976-Present models).
Why don't you like the modern dishwashers?
The modern dishwashers have hard/solid food disposers and self cleaning filters...These two features eliminates prerinsing.
Rob
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Post# 1268-6/6/2001-12:30 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: For Scottdamit.
MESSAGE: Oh and I'd absoultely agree with that cleaning ability too Appnut, I was just commenting on the choices, because remember what it says in my profile "New appliances are not allowed in my house". LOLOLOL.
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Post# 1269-6/6/2001-12:39 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: For Scottdamit. (It's the challenge!)
MESSAGE: Hi Rob, don’t get me wrong, I think modern dishwashers are wonderful. For me, its more than just washing dishes, its the feeling of the challenge knowing that I have a dishwasher installed and running that probably no one else in the world has. And you just can't go out and buy a '56 Frigidaire DW, even if you desperately wanted one. You have to put in A LOT of time finding one, and then A LOT of time restoring it to showroom new. I makes me feel really good every time I walk in my kitchen and look at all that shiny porcelain. While I’ll be the first to admit the new Maytag cleans better than my Frigidaire, the cleaning ability is not the most important thing to me, so I scrape the dish into the sink before I put it in, its more than worth the extra 2 seconds to me.
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Post# 1270-6/6/2001-12:52 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Restoration Begins on the 1952 Whirlpool Washer (There's nothing I'd rather do...)
MESSAGE: Thanks, Robert, that gave me a big smile!
I think you know there's nothing I'd rather do than follow you thru this. But like I said to Jason, I need 36 hours a day, 8 days a week. I'll give it a shot, but by all means, don't wait on me or it might not never get done!
-ph
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Post# 1271-6/6/2001-12:54 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: WESTINGHOUSE AND KELVINATOR (Direct Drive Motor)
MESSAGE: Mike,
Do you know how the motor is attached to the drum shaft? There is no room behind the drum. A pity it's not very reliable, I find it very cute.
Louis
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Post# 1272-6/6/2001-12:58 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: For Scottdamit. (It's the challenge!)
MESSAGE: Yes, Robert it's the challenge, I remember it well. I'll probably hug your dishasher when I see it--it'll bring back those childhood memories. I am looking forward to seeing/maybe even helping put dishes in it. And the sound of the spraying--there's nothing like it.
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Post# 1273-6/6/2001-13:09 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: Apex washer manual
MESSAGE: Robert!!! Look!!!!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1436573212
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Post# 1274-6/6/2001-13:12 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: Apex washer manual
MESSAGE: Look!!! Look!!!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1436562327
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Post# 1275-6/6/2001-13:49 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: WESTINGHOUSE AND KELVINATOR (Direct Drive Motor)
MESSAGE: Louis
I asked the same questions when I saw it because its still only 600cm deep, and claiming to be 7kg wash size drum couldnt imagine how they could afford to lose any space with the motor attached at the back.
The way it was explained to me was the drum shaft protrudes out further than normal through the outer drum, because there is no need for a belt/drum pulley wheel, the motor is built on and around and forms the end of the drive shaft.
I suppose its the same principle as the direct drive Creda Debonair Spin Dryers of old, centre of the motor is attached to the drum.
If you look inside the machine the drum is a lot larger in width than depth than you would expect for 7kg so I guess thats how it all fits. Couldnt imagine the initial torque needed by this small motor to turn say a 7kg load of wet cotton towels.
Mike
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Post# 1276-6/6/2001-14:14 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Apex washer manual (Thanks Rich)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the thought Rich, but I that manual in my collection already.
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Post# 1277-6/6/2001-14:33 ||| estate-sale-gary (Golden Valley, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: For Scottdamit. (Dish racks in your back yard?)
MESSAGE: Rob - why don't you just stack the dirty dishes in the back of that old El Camino on blocks in your back yard? BTW...it looks like there's alot of great estate sales this weekend! Gary
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Post# 1278-6/6/2001-14:47 ||| estate-sale-gary (Golden Valley, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag to acquire Amana (She can bake a mean apple pie, but....)
MESSAGE: But Scott, I've seen those new Atlantis' with white porcelain tubs right here in Minneapolis at the Mall of America!
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Post# 1279-6/6/2001-15:04 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Tearing down a Sqeed Queen (SQ boot)
MESSAGE: They're still available here! Maybe I should stock up soon. Let me know if anyone needs any, I've got some of those boots.
Eddy
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Post# 1280-6/6/2001-15:06 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Tearing down a Sqeed Queen
MESSAGE: Peter, I feel the same when I have to do that to a machine. I always host a farewell party first LOL
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Post# 1281-6/6/2001-15:18 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: For Scottdamit. (Dish racks in your back yard?)
MESSAGE: Gary, that's great! I'm already looking forward to the pictures. We don't have them overhere, so I'm still intrigued by the phenomenon. Maybe there will be that special Apex waiting in some basement! Louis
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Post# 1282-6/6/2001-15:23 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: For Scottdamit. (SLAP)
MESSAGE: Hello Estate Sale Gary, first of all its not an El Camino that I have on blocks in the backyard it’s a Vega. Second of all, you of all people know, that if I would stick the dish racks on the Vega, it would scare all the chickens that I have living in that car. So I better just bring those dish racks out front and put them on the sofa that’s out on the porch, then wait for a thunderstorm.
The next time I see you--SLAP
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Post# 1283-6/6/2001-15:38 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: For Scottdamit. (SLAP)
MESSAGE: Roberto,
Now we're talking yards here anyway, did the lightbulbs you planted ever come out? If so, perhaps you could use them to let them shine a light on your porch thunderstorm dishwasher. BTW, what kind of Vega is it? I bet it's not a Facel Vega, since that is a very rare car.
Luigi
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Post# 1284-6/6/2001-15:45 ||| estate-sale-gary (Golden Valley, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: For Scottdamit. (SLAP, hey?)
MESSAGE: Don't threaten me with a good time, Robert.
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Post# 1285-6/6/2001-16:02 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Tearing down a Sqeed Queen (SQ boot)
MESSAGE: It really wasn't like rubber at all - in the area that it was ripped, it looked sort of rubbery, but more plasticy. It is still very pliable - like I couldn't believe for it's age.
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Post# 1286-6/6/2001-16:06 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: For Scottdamit. (SLAP)
MESSAGE: Luigi, a Vega was an early 1970s Chevy model, complete with an aluminum engine. Was known to have a body with a tendency to rust.
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Post# 1287-6/6/2001-16:07 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: For Scottdamit. (SLAP, hey?)
MESSAGE: I'll join in the fun1!!
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Post# 1288-6/6/2001-16:09 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: For Scottdamit. (SLAP)
MESSAGE: Hey now, you better watch it. Thats the only kind of automatic dishwasher we've had for years. When we finally got that 'lectricity here I done went down to the store and got me one of those lectric dishwashers, long with a automatic wash machine. We still got the ol ice box. It works great but ya gotta keep a big ol block of ice in it norder fer it ta work.
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Post# 1289-6/6/2001-16:28 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: CONVENTION BOOKINGS
MESSAGE: I see only 6 rooms picked up at the Holiday Inn for convention. There are more of you gusy going than this, right?
See post 414 for accommodation info...
-ph
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Post# 1290-6/6/2001-17:17 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: For Scottdamit.
MESSAGE: Or, put on a pink ruffled apron and do them by hand - with Playtex Living gloves so as not to muss my manicure. And don't forget the Tide for dishes!
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Post# 1291-6/6/2001-17:19 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag to acquire Amana (Unimatic FOUND SLAPPED & DAZED)
MESSAGE: FLASH>>>>Unimatic was found wandering the streets of Minneapolis today confused and dazed. Tall handsome man was seen leaving the area. All points bullentin is out for "tall handsome man"
MPD
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Post# 1292-6/6/2001-17:21 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day (50RPM)
MESSAGE: Peter good question, I wil get out the service beacon and re read that section because I remember them giving all that info.
Will get back to you after I consult with DOCTRINE.
jon
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Post# 1293-6/6/2001-17:22 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: DCI-58 (WCI-59 DCI-59)
MESSAGE: DEFINETLY BOTH TO THAT QUESTION!
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Post# 1294-6/6/2001-17:25 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day
MESSAGE: Tom they actually used atomic dirt????? Where did you hear that?
jon
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Post# 1295-6/6/2001-17:27 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag to acquire Amana
MESSAGE: Thank you Scott for enlightening me. I was confused.
And yes I was born in Boston but grew up in New York.
Jon
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Post# 1296-6/6/2001-17:30 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day
MESSAGE: Louis Good point!! there!!
Jon
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Post# 1297-6/6/2001-17:34 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day
MESSAGE: God no! I can set up a cycle on that, that will take almost 80 minutes if I put in all the extras. It's more like a dishwasher for your clothes than the old style washer we are used too with WASH-SPIN-RINSE-DRY on the dial. The Neptune also depends more on the chemical action of the detergent than the mechanical action of the tub.
jon
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Post# 1298-6/6/2001-17:34 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: CONVENTION BOOKINGS
MESSAGE: Peter, my name better be one of the 6. I registered from the Friday through Monday morning.
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Post# 1299-6/6/2001-17:44 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire model nomenclature (frightening thought)
MESSAGE: It just hit me like a ton of bricks & sent shivers through my whole body---Frigidaire Custom Imperial Models were referred to as WCI (later we'd refer to the new owners as WCI, White Consolidated Insdustries). Now I gotta go home & take a tranquilizer!!!!
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Post# 1300-6/6/2001-18:15 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: For Scottdamit. (SLAP)
MESSAGE: Yes Louis, the bulbs came out so nice and bright and beautiful. And no, no Facel here, just a Chevrolet.
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Post# 1301-6/6/2001-18:18 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: CONVENTION BOOKINGS
MESSAGE: There are some who are staying elsewhere such as Golittlesport, Jetcone, John Lefever.
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Post# 1302-6/6/2001-19:59 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Tearing down a Sqeed Queen (SQ boot)
MESSAGE: Thanks Eddy - I wasn't sure if they were still available - so many of the parts I looked for on the A49 weren't available. There are probably a lot of the commercial machines still in use and they have to stock some of the more universal parts. There is a company that is close to Omaha that took over all of the coin-op & home service that may have some parts for the old style machines, should call them and see what they have.
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Post# 1303-6/6/2001-20:04 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Tearing down a Sqeed Queen
MESSAGE: I don't have room for the SQ A49 ('64) in my house either, but that is staying until the convention when I'll bring it up to play with so everyone can see a SQ too. Then, who knows....
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Post# 1304-6/6/2001-20:05 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: For Scottdamit. (SLAP)
MESSAGE: A sofa too!! Now I'm jealous!
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Post# 1305-6/6/2001-20:14 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day (Radioactive Dirt - It's true!!!!)
MESSAGE: In the 1956 sales facts book from Bendix it states:
Scientific tests prove that Bendix Tumble Action principle gets clothes whiter and brighter, more thoroughly clean, more consistently than five leading competitors...even better than all previous Bendix models. These foolproof measurements of washing machine performance consist of mixing radio active isotopes in the test soil and checking final results with a Geiger counter.
There's an illustration of the test studs, one holding laundry out of the Bendix and the other with a Geiger counter - I'm sold! (But I'll still take a Power Surge washer anyway.)
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Post# 1306-6/6/2001-20:14 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: New "Lady" in the Georgia Club
MESSAGE: Finally, I have Lady "K" in her new spot. Snapped a few pictures when I got home from work.
Steve 1-18
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/svb14_1953?d&.intl=us&.flabel=fld13&.src=ph
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Post# 1307-6/6/2001-20:16 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire model nomenclature (frightening thought)
MESSAGE: Remember the first WCI Frigidaire had a model designation of WCIxx too - take two tranqs!
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Post# 1308-6/6/2001-20:19 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: New "Lady" in the Georgia Club
MESSAGE: That's just beautiful! I love the "fingers" inside of the drum. I saw a newer model than this one in coppertone at the thrift store a couple of weeks ago. It was in bad shape, but I'd not seen those sensors like that on a KM before. Great looking machine - so very clean, nice job!
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Post# 1309-6/6/2001-20:33 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day (35 TPM)
MESSAGE: I guess that's how maytag made the claim thatyour clotes will dry in the time it takes to wash them.
What a philosophy? Don't shorten the dry time, lengthen the dry time!
Steve 1-18
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Post# 1310-6/6/2001-20:39 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: Name that Stain
MESSAGE: Every April, the Medical Laboratories celebrate National Medical Laboratory Week. Our lab has a week of festivities.
A few years ago, we had a contest called "Name the Stains." One of the committee members got a old white lab coat and stained it. The stains were all numbered. Of course, there was a prize for the most correct answers. The stains ranged from chemical dyes/stains that the lab uses to chocolate, mustard (to look like poop) and grass.
Steve 1-18
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Post# 1311-6/6/2001-20:42 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Restoration Begins on the 1952 Whirlpool Washer (restoring the 53 Kenmore)
MESSAGE: Peter,
I was thinking the same thing. Great minds.........
Steve 1-18
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Post# 1312-6/6/2001-21:01 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: For Scottdamit. (Car on blocks)
MESSAGE: LOL
I was talking to my friend, Barbara (you know the one with room for a pony, and a washer on her front porch!). I told her that soon I as going to have to [face reality and] thin the herd [of washers]. SHe said I need to start my own graveyard out back! What a riot?
Steve 1-18
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Post# 1313-6/6/2001-21:26 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New "Lady" in the Georgia Club (Just Beautiful)
MESSAGE: She's in beautiful Shape Steve, congrats on getting her up and running!
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Post# 1314-6/6/2001-21:30 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New "Lady" in the Georgia Club
MESSAGE: Steve, I'm so grateful for all the detailed pics of Miss Lady K. I never really got to see these dryers up close & assess them. I'm assuming that the dryness selector didn't move once set. Buttons just popped out when finished (like Maytag?). Maybe not, enlighten me. Too bad Texas is so far away, I wish I could adopt a worthy machine that needs to be thinned out. Preferably a Frigidaire (hint hint).
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Post# 1315-6/6/2001-21:32 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New "Lady" in the Georgia Club
MESSAGE: Fabulous machine Steve. I was having a tough time figuring out what you were talking about with the control dial the other day, but now that I see a picture of it it makes sense. I've not seen that style previously. Scott
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Post# 1316-6/6/2001-21:36 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Tearing down a Sqeed Queen
MESSAGE: Oh dear, I see I am going to have to go forth with my plan and see if/how things work out. There are some machines out there it sounds like that are going to need a good home.
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Post# 1317-6/6/2001-22:02 ||| RobGwisdala (Troy Ohio 45373)
SUBJECT: Maytag Atlantis "porcelain basket" washers.
MESSAGE: Hello Everyone.
All of these post about Maytag Atlantis washers with porcelain baskets has got me confused.
According to the Maytag website, The Atlantis washers are only available with two basket types.
They are plastic and stainless steel.
I thought porcelain baskets was not offered on the Atlantis line.
Could somebody correct me if I am wrong?
Thank you.
Rob
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Post# 1318-6/6/2001-22:16 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Atlantis "porcelain basket" washers.
MESSAGE: I thought the same thing.
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Post# 1319-6/6/2001-22:20 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Atlantis "porcelain basket" washers. (Performa/Dependable Care?)
MESSAGE: I wonder if this whole porcelain basket issue is borne out of this confusion Maytag created for themselves when they started calling the Dependable Care machines L Series Performas, where before the Performa was a budget line plastic tub Norge.
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Post# 1320-6/6/2001-22:32 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Atlantis "porcelain basket" washers. (oh boy)
MESSAGE: OK Jetcone said this morning in post 1202 the following:
"No they have the old Norge porcelain tubs here in white."
Here is a picture of the only Norge procelain tubs ever made in white...
Now we can put this one to bed.
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/unimatic1140/vwp?.dir=/Norge&.dnm=%2756+Norge+Interior.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 1321-6/6/2001-22:34 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Work continues on the '52 Whirlpool
MESSAGE: We'll I spent three long hours tonight just taking out the spin tub, and it wasn't fun, but its out now! YAY.
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/whirlpool525/vwp?.dir=/1952+Whirlpool+Restoration+Part+1&.dnm=Removing+the+Spin+Basket.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 1322-6/6/2001-22:56 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Atlantis "porcelain basket" washers. (oh boy)
MESSAGE: You SillYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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Post# 1323-6/6/2001-23:20 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Work continues on the '52 Whirlpool (Hammer, Chisel, Fire !!!)
MESSAGE: MMMMMM..........fire good! Good progress, it sure is clean everywhere. I like the picture layout too. Cool way to do that.
The Westy POTD is great. (It's just magic inside the Westy front loaders isn't it?) Thanks.
Todd
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Post# 1324-6/7/2001-04:39 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT: RE: For Scottdamit.
MESSAGE: I probably would go with the 9150. If I could have a WU1000 that might be different.
SD
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Post# 1325-6/7/2001-05:31 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: Display Properties
MESSAGE: Hey guys!
Had some fun last night. Right clicked on the pulsing Frigidaire on the club's home page and saved the "gif" to my pc. Then I went to display properties, background, and selected it as my wallpaper. THEN, I tiled it! I had 8 washers on my screen, pulsing! What a background! It looked like a v-8 engine! I was listening to my mp file of James Brown "Living in America." What a tribute to American ingenuity.
Steve 1-18
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Post# 1326-6/7/2001-07:16 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: POTD--1964 Frigidaire
MESSAGE: Okay, time to enhance my knowledge. The button arrangement I've not seen before on this style--only what was like on the 1965 units with the smaller, more chicklet type keys. Dumb question, is this a roller or a multi with the offset dial/timer that was to be found in 1965. Or is this the late 1964 model that came out with the new rollermatic?
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Post# 1327-6/7/2001-08:24 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: CONVENTION BOOKINGS (you are there)
MESSAGE: Yes, Bob, your reservation is there...
-ph
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Post# 1328-6/7/2001-09:18 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Tearing down a Sqeed Queen (A49 pic)
MESSAGE: Greg,
Can you post a link to the A49? I can't seem to find it in your albums...
-ph
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Post# 1329-6/7/2001-11:45 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day
MESSAGE: If you remove a panel in back, you can watch the pulley and have an idea of what it is doing. It sorta confirms what you suspect; sad state of affairs. TT
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Post# 1330-6/7/2001-11:54 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (But you have seen it!)
MESSAGE: Actually Bob, I'm almost postive you've seen this model washer before, as a matter of fact I bet most of the english speaking world has seen this washer before. Can anyone guess why?
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Post# 1331-6/7/2001-11:56 ||| jaxcubb (Woodstock, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Enlighten us, Robert :-)
Mike
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Post# 1332-6/7/2001-11:56 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (But you have seen it!)
MESSAGE: Oh, this was the last Multimatic model made. I do believe Frigdaire came out with the first Rollermatics in September of '64, but that's only because Frigidaire was always one of the first to introduce the new years models, and they usually did it in the Autumn of the year before.
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Post# 1333-6/7/2001-11:57 ||| jaxcubb (Woodstock, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: It just dawned on me that I don't need to copy the subject line. DUH!
Mike
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Post# 1334-6/7/2001-12:03 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day (slowing tumbling speed)
MESSAGE: Well, this plays right into my hands. Last night at the WP meeting, they showed squares of wool washed in various machines and the shrinkage rates involved. The Calypso was 1%. The Catalyst with the extreme hand wash which has periods of very slow agitation and soaking has a 2% shrinkage. The wildest one was the Frigimore FL with over a 30% shrinkage rate. Unlike my Miele, which fills over 2/3 up the glass and only makes one turn a minute while holding the garment suspended in the water on a delicate setting, the Kenidaire seems to really bash the wool around at low water level. All the wool samples were flat dried away from heat and all were washed in cold water. The Neptune had a shrinkage rate below the Frigimore, but higher than a lot of other TLs. Tom
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Post# 1335-6/7/2001-12:10 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: For Scottdamit. (SLAP)
MESSAGE: So I guess Robert's chickens are brown?
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Post# 1336-6/7/2001-12:14 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day (50RPM)
MESSAGE: Sweetie dahlinks, the rotation speeds are always measured without the pauses.
Mrs Tumblewash
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Post# 1337-6/7/2001-12:14 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day (RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day)
MESSAGE: Louis, it often pays to keep an eye on what's happening inside the bed linens, expecially with all the risks royalty faces in regards to lineage, etc. Large drums are not necessarily a rmemdy. I always dry my sheets in my Kenmore with the small drum from before the design change. The drum design and speed seem to keep the sheets from rolling up. My Frigidaire Filtrators were very bad about tangling sheets also. If the drum went a little faster, it would hold the sheets closer to the sides and not let them intertwine. A friend is sending me his variable tumble speed WP with the guarantee that it does not tangle sheets. TT
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Post# 1338-6/7/2001-12:17 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (But you have seen it!)
MESSAGE: Roberto, quite honestly, I never laid eyes on this machine until today. That's why I was stabbing at its true design. But, the biggest hint was the button arrangement, like I said, I suspected it to be a multimatic. My Frigidaire playtime didn't evolve from the WI59 until the WCI65. I saw no other machines, except for TV, up close that were Frigidaire. My expsoure was solely Kenmore, Whirlpool, GE, Norge, & Moneky Wards from 1961 to 1965--for new models.
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Post# 1339-6/7/2001-12:17 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the day! (1956)
MESSAGE: Robert, I saw an early 50s magazine ad for the Laundromat in that same format spread over two pages. Tom
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Post# 1340-6/7/2001-12:18 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day
MESSAGE: And I was always thinking that frontloaders offered more mechanical action than toploaders. In my opinion the water is better pressed through the clothes than in toploaders. Perhaps toploaders are more rough on clothes, but I think the tumble action is more effective.
Mrs Tumblewash again
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Post# 1341-6/7/2001-12:20 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: CONVENTION BOOKINGS
MESSAGE: And some are sharing a room.
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Post# 1342-6/7/2001-12:23 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: New "Lady" in the Georgia Club
MESSAGE: Steve, wonderful dryer!! I love the "designed for Permanent Press" shield!! Louis
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Post# 1343-6/7/2001-12:24 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Oh yes you have)
MESSAGE: Oh you've seen this machine before Bob. Here's a hint, it was in the entryway (along with its matching dryer) of a very famous kitchen.
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Post# 1344-6/7/2001-12:26 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day
MESSAGE: In the 50's Louis, Consumer Reports would have disagreed with you.
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Post# 1345-6/7/2001-12:29 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: CONVENTION BOOKINGS
MESSAGE: Don't worry Peter, anything the crowd lacks in size will be made up in enthusiasm. Tom
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Post# 1346-6/7/2001-12:32 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (But you have seen it!)
MESSAGE: Well, I can't remember what TV show it was on, but it sure is a cute machine. I love it! Did it have the last three ring agitator in it? Too bad it didn't rapidry.
Rich
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Post# 1347-6/7/2001-12:34 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Work continues on the '52 Whirlpool
MESSAGE: I didn't doubt a moment that you could do it! I admire what you are able to do for a washer that needs restauration.
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Post# 1348-6/7/2001-12:36 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (was it...?)
MESSAGE: That isn't Samantha's washer is it?
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Post# 1349-6/7/2001-12:37 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Display Properties
MESSAGE: Didn't work on my computer. I guess you have Windows 98?
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Post# 1350-6/7/2001-12:43 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day
MESSAGE: Mary, they tested everything with atomic dirt in the early 50s, before everyone involved died. There are double spread (STOP RIGHT THERE and get your mind out of the gutter; the word was double not donald) magazine ads for the Duomatic showing it and two or three other machines with white coated lab workers, atomic dirt and Geiger counters above text telling how clean it washes. As for where they got real atomic dirt, I would imagine from Louella Parsons, Walter Winchell and Hedda Hopper. The really radio active stuff came from Mary Margaret McBride and I guess most of you are too young to know about any of these people. TT
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Post# 1351-6/7/2001-12:44 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day
MESSAGE: Robert, I still have to study the 50's frontloader's action. If they have a higher water level and you use sudsing detergent, I bet you don't get a lot of mechanical action. In the modern frontloaders there is not much water in the drum so the clothes can fall on the surface on the drum, not in the water. I think that really makes a difference. Louis
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Post# 1352-6/7/2001-12:47 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire model nomenclature (frightening thought)
MESSAGE: Bob, only the CI washers had the designation WCI and the letters were followed by a number so that set of initials is not tarnished by the tragedy and mayhem associated with any later application of same. TT
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Post# 1353-6/7/2001-12:51 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire model nomenclature (frightening thought)
MESSAGE: Or as Dr. Mae West would say, "Take two men and call me in the morning."
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Post# 1354-6/7/2001-12:58 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (But you have seen it!)
MESSAGE: And you never watched TV?
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Post# 1355-6/7/2001-13:01 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day
MESSAGE: Sweetie, dear, most tumbler washers do. The Neptune is a notable infection, I mean exception.
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Post# 1356-6/7/2001-13:13 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day (Mary Margaret)
MESSAGE: Tom
Was Mary Margaret McBride related in any way to Mary Margaret McMertz, that famous pitch-lady for Aunt Martha's Old Fashioned Salad Dressing?
:-)
Rich
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Post# 1357-6/7/2001-13:13 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Bewitched)
MESSAGE: Ding-Ding-Ding, Rich got it first. This was Samantha's washer!
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Post# 1358-6/7/2001-13:26 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Oh yes you have)
MESSAGE: Scott, it has to be Bewitched. But remember, as near-sighted as I am, I'd never be able to see the kind of detail to distinguish it from the 1965 version, as fast as the camera panned through the area.
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Post# 1359-6/7/2001-13:32 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (But you have seen it!)
MESSAGE: Tom, see my post 1358. And I love your size & enthusiasm comment as well as Dr. M West. LOL
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Post# 1360-6/7/2001-13:58 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Display Properties
MESSAGE: Louis, tiling an image for wallpaper should work with any version of Windows from 95 and up (not sure about Win3.x, been too long since I used it). If you are using Internet Explorer, right-click on the picture and select "Set as Wallpaper." Then close or minimize your browser to get to your desktop. Right-click on the desktop, select Properties. On the Background tab (where you select what to use for wallpaper), there should be an option to Center or Tile the selected image.
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Post# 1361-6/7/2001-14:37 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day
MESSAGE: Dear Tom, you and I may be convinced about that, but I think there still are a lot of people think that an agitator action is better than tumble action. Louis
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Post# 1362-6/7/2001-14:40 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Display Properties
MESSAGE: Thanks, but I did that. The only problem is that the washer doesn't agitate. I guess it's more a mechanical problem LOL.
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Post# 1363-6/7/2001-15:22 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Display Properties (Its subjective)
MESSAGE: Personally I think it depends on the particular machine, what your washing and what kind of dirt/stains your trying to remove and what your ultimate goal is. I don't think any machine can be claimed the "best" for all situtions. But that's just me.
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Post# 1364-6/7/2001-15:23 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day (Its subjective)
MESSAGE: Ooopsie, I mean to reply to this post with this message:
Personally I think it depends on the particular machine, what your washing and what kind of dirt/stains your trying to remove and what your ultimate goal is. I don't think any machine can be claimed the "best" for all situtions. But that's just me.
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Post# 1365-6/7/2001-15:56 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: 151 Posts Yesterday
MESSAGE: Wow, we had a record number of messages posted yesterday, 151 to be exact, beating our old record of 120 something!
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Post# 1366-6/7/2001-16:43 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Display Properties (Animated Wallpaper -- Yes? No?)
MESSAGE: I'm running Win2000, and mine didn't agitate either.
Steve 1-18, do you have some additional software installed that allows animated wallpaper?
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Post# 1367-6/7/2001-18:59 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Tearing down a Sqeed Queen (Speed Queen A49 Picture Link)
MESSAGE: Here is the link for the Speed Queen A49 - it's in the same album as the "tear down" pics of the green one - which is now gone to the Krusher. The white one is still around though - sitting quietly in the corner until it's his turn to shine again. I kept the stainless tub from the green one that I'd intended to put into the A49, before the '54 set came.
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/surgilator/lst?.dir=/%2761+Speed+Queen&.view=t
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Post# 1368-6/7/2001-19:02 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (But you have seen it!)
MESSAGE: Yes, the fall is when the new models came out. I didn't realize that when I started flipping through the Tech-Talk books until I started to see a pattern.
Was this one on Bewitched? I had only ever seen them in ads, mostly magazines, and was totally crushed when they changed the set and went to Maytag - boring crap I'd been around all my life. I was VERY Frigidaire deprived!
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Post# 1369-6/7/2001-19:12 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Display Properties
MESSAGE: I tried the agitating washer on the desktop - now I don't remember how I did it, but it didn't work well. It was the only thing that was moving on the whole computer.
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Post# 1370-6/7/2001-19:51 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Samantha )
MESSAGE: Robert I thought the one Samantha had had a window
Peter
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Post# 1371-6/7/2001-19:52 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Replaced )
MESSAGE: Greg I was disappointed also - they should have replaced it with a 1/18
Peter
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Post# 1372-6/7/2001-20:01 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Replaced )
MESSAGE: Sponsor, shmonsor!
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Post# 1373-6/7/2001-20:09 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: New "Lady" in the Georgia Club
MESSAGE: Steve1-18:
I just checked out your "new" Lady just now, and might I add that almost 35 years later, she is still gorgeous. My great aunt (who is also on my father's side) had this VERY dryer (right along with the matching LK "keyboard" washer) until about the mid 1980's. From the tastefully, but simply designed control panel to that "Designed for Permanent Press" emblem that was embeded on top of the lint cover, all the way to the lighted drum that featured the solid-state sensors called "the moisture fingers (which I think was the most advanced technology that Sears was offering at the time), this dryer oozes nothing but beauty and class all the way. That's why it is one of my dream machines to seek out as well (right along with the matching LK washer..... see my profile.... this very dryer is listed). You didn't have to put a lot of work into her to get her going again, did you?? Because she seems to be very clean and in immaculate shape.
All in all, a great find Steve.
--Charles--
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Post# 1374-6/7/2001-20:11 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (But you have seen it!)
MESSAGE: Well actually Uni, I haven't. Why don't you enlighten me.
--Charles--
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Post# 1375-6/7/2001-20:13 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Bewitched)
MESSAGE: This was Samantha's Steven's washer?? Well then, when did Bewitched debuted on the air then?? I thought it was around 1966.
--Charles--
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Post# 1376-6/7/2001-21:18 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (1964 Frigidaire at 1164 Morning Glory Circle)
MESSAGE: Good Question Charles, to be exact, the show first aired on September 17, 1964.
LINK: http://www.1164.com/
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Post# 1377-6/7/2001-21:21 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Display Properties (washer doesn't agitate)
MESSAGE: Louis,
Is your washer plugged in? Is the lid closed? Are your water faucets opened? Have you checked your fuses / circuit breakers?
Oh, never mind. The knob is in the off position.
Sorry, I couldn't resist!
Steve 1-18
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Post# 1378-6/7/2001-21:25 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Display Properties (Animated Wallpaper -- Yes? No?)
MESSAGE: Glenn,
I have windows ME, but I have had animated gif files that worked with win 98, too. Did you save the picture as a gif file? Open it and see if the agitator is pulsing using a gif viewer. I have another gif of a front loader tumbling clothes. Makes an interesting background for about 10 minutes, every once in a while.
Steve 1-18
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Post# 1379-6/7/2001-21:36 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: New "Lady" in the Georgia Club
MESSAGE: Charles,
Not much work to get her going. Cleaned her inside and out, did a little detailing, and swapped the lid from the electric dryer (same model).
Did you want an gas or electric dryer? (Hint-Hint). By the way, a bonus, the original top on the gas dryer did not have the 'designed for PP' on it. That was only on the electric dryer. Also, another big difference, on the electric version, the 'sensor fingers' are not on drum, but instead on the back of the dryer. Not the two small bars we see on the most modern machines, this is a large white panel just below the exhaust port on the stationary rear of the drum.
I promise to post some pictures, soon.
Steve 1-18
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Post# 1380-6/7/2001-21:41 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (1964 Frigidaire at 1164 Morning Glory Circle)
MESSAGE: The cross section views of the house on your link are wonderful - they don't have the 1964 washer and dryer though - in their drawing, they have a WCIL from 1967 with the square timer indicator window. I only remember the earlier one, with the round dial.
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Post# 1381-6/7/2001-21:49 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Samantha's window)
MESSAGE: No, that was a Hamilton with a window...built by witchcraft! haha! (sorry, Scott)
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Post# 1382-6/7/2001-21:51 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (1964 Frigidaire at 1164 Morning Glory Circle)
MESSAGE: And I remember seeing the square timer display ones more than the round timer dial ones.
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Post# 1383-6/7/2001-21:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (1964 Frigidaire at 1164 Morning Glory Circle)
MESSAGE: Yes, in 1966 or 1967 they changed to the square timer indicator WCIL model. But in '64 and '65 they used the 1964 Custom Imperial, you can only see it in an early black&white episode or two.
Just out of curiosity, how many of you guys out there loved Bewitched when you were a kid? I did and still love it today. I have about 150 episodes on video, including 13 episodes with the original commercials.
I was soooooo pissed at my parents as an 11 year old kid because they sent me in the late afternoon to 1.5 hours of Hebrew School on Tuesdays and Thursdays, because of that I missed Bewitched! I asked my father once, "if I'm suppose to believe in this god character that they tell us about in hebrew school then why shouldn't I believe in witches and genie's too"? Of course my father's answer to all that was "Because I told you so, that's why". That didn't help matters much.
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Post# 1384-6/7/2001-21:52 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Samantha's window)
MESSAGE: Rich, y0ou are witching tonight.
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Post# 1385-6/7/2001-21:55 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (1964 Frigidaire at 1164 Morning Glory Circle)
MESSAGE: I did, but it was because of Dick Seargent & the Chevrolet cars. I knew the appliances were Frigidaires, but they just didn't excite me as much as what was on Donna Reed (here we go again).
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Post# 1386-6/7/2001-22:10 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Sam's many laundry appliances??)
MESSAGE: Did the Frigidaire washer and dryer change through the years too? I found this on the web site you linked to in the bloopers section. It looks like the washer with the square dial window in this episode #126 (2/3 down on page) which is a cute blooper anyway as the first scene doesn't have a washer and dryer - just wallpaper.
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Post# 1387-6/7/2001-22:11 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Sam's many laundry appliances??)
MESSAGE: Duh, the link to the blooper page is.....
LINK: http://www.1164.com/bewitched/bloopers/season-4.html
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Post# 1388-6/7/2001-22:13 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (1964 Frigidaire at 1164 Morning Glory Circle)
MESSAGE: Hi Robert
I loved (love) Bewitched. I would watch it every week. I was always hoping that Gladys Kravitz would peek in the kitchen window and see the wash moving from the washer to the dryer by itself, but the writers never got that inventive.
Do you remember that Samantha originally had some funky dishwasher with a window in it? Was that a prop?
I was sad too when she traded in her Frigidaire laundry set for Maytags. She really was trying hard to be a "boring" human at that point...and succeeding.
I wish you had told me when I was visiting you that you had all those episodes of Bewitched...I would have stayed up all night watching them!!!
Rich
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Post# 1389-6/7/2001-22:21 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: WESTINGHOUSE AND KELVINATOR
MESSAGE: Hi Louis. I have a brochure for the DD LG front loader but I havent seen one in the shops. From what I know people havent had problems with LG. They aren't Maytags or Mieles, but they sure do add variety in the washing machine market.
LINK: http://www.lge.com.au/productGroup.asp?Contenttype=Product&Subtype=household#Washing+Machine
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Post# 1390-6/7/2001-22:30 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Clash of the Titans.......... (Titan v Dyson Contrarotator)
MESSAGE: The Titan looks 1000 times better than the truly hideous, ugly and appaulling Dyson.
I dont think Dysons products are that great either.
When I first saw one I was captivated and wanted one so bad. But after reading a consumer report on vacuums, well the hoover Windtunnell scored 75% for suction and Dyson 32%. I was very dissappointed but people are paying a premium for dysons believeing them to be superior. They are very messy to empty too, the dust goes everywhere and I end up sneezing for hours!
How much is the Dyson expected to sell for?
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Post# 1391-6/7/2001-22:31 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Sam's many laundry appliances??)
MESSAGE: That WCIL/DCIL was in the 1966-1967 season which was the first color season. The might have filmed that first scene while they were in the process of changing the washer and dryer from the '64 pair to the '66 pair.
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Post# 1392-6/7/2001-22:32 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Clash of the Titans.......... (Titan v Dyson Contrarotator)
MESSAGE: I meant to ask, how much the Titan will sell for?
How does the removable drum work? I guess the idea is that it can be used as a clothes hamper and then inserted ino the washer when it is full. Do you get more than one drum so you can separate colours form whites?
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Post# 1393-6/7/2001-22:34 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (1964 Frigidaire at 1164 Morning Glory Circle)
MESSAGE: We'll we can play a few episodes at the convention Rich. I wonder if there is a connection with being interested in washers and Bewitched? Ya never know!
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Post# 1394-6/7/2001-22:36 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: WESTINGHOUSE AND KELVINATOR (there gone)
MESSAGE: Im sad to here that Uni.
I wonder how much it would cost to buy the name from them??
I wonder if we could buy the orbital design too??
BTW the Australian orbital Kelvinator featured a perforated tub.
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Post# 1395-6/7/2001-22:37 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: WESTINGHOUSE AND KELVINATOR (Perforated Tub Orbital Kelvinator)
MESSAGE: It did??? Hmmm, that would be interesting to see. Do you have any literature on those machines that could be scanned arrrooohhh?
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Post# 1396-6/7/2001-22:47 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: WESTINGHOUSE AND KELVINATOR (Perforated Tub Orbital Kelvinator)
MESSAGE: I have a photcopy of the 1963 Choice test on washing machines. it took up the whole magazine so i only photocopied the washer profiles.
I want to scan it but I havent got one and I am always too busy to use the scanner at my wednesday job ( I temp so I am always around different places) But I will soon, probably after I can get the next report too, which was in 1972 ( a long time between drinks)
I also visited an old junk shop too in Brookvale, on Sydneys nother beaches. took me an hour and a half to drive there. I wanted to see what they had in the way of ancient appliances,a nd aprat form a pope wringer, nothing. I think the lack of basements and council cleanup days mean there is very little in the way of ancient appliances around town. Maybe if you travel into the country, I dont know
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Post# 1397-6/7/2001-23:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Magical Appliances)
MESSAGE: This is one of the few shows that I remember sitting through the whole show just for a glimpse of the kitchen/laundry appliances - I loved them all. The Flair range, top-mount refrigerator, and of course the washer and dryer!
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Post# 1398-6/7/2001-00:40 ||| Pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: A lurker comes out
MESSAGE: Hi folks! Been reading your posts for several days now and thought I'd say hi. I've tried to suppress my sudsy desires for years so I'm glad I found you all. I have no experience rebuilding appliances, but I'd make a great little helper! My fav's are Frigidaires but I like anything retro. Saw a "Laundromat" in a used appliance store yesterday, along with a couple of other cool ones. I'll be watching your posts and will ask the occasional question. Moving to a new house at the end of July and will be putting a down payment on a Frigidaire Jet-Action that I just found (even though the house comes with a washer/dryer!). I've looked at everyone's photo pages and I'm very impressed with your collections and I have learned much already. If anyone has more Frigidaire mpg's, I hope you will post them. See my profile. Looking forward to getting to know you all in the coming months!
Jay in Phoenix
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Post# 1399-6/7/2001-01:11 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Magical Appliances)
MESSAGE: Right on all counts Greg, but she had a bottom freezer refrigerator, just like ours! :)
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Post# 1400-6/7/2001-01:14 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A lurker comes out
MESSAGE: Welcome to the club, Pumper! I have a friend in Phoenix and one in Tucson (that I first met on the net!) and my parents live south of Tucson in the wintertime. Your birthday is the same day as my Dad's! Enjoy your new home and keep us posted with your washer ventures!
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Post# 1401-6/8/2001-05:37 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day (Mary Margaret)
MESSAGE: Rich, I thought of that as I posted, because that would be the way most people would have any link to the woman who was once named "America's Most Radioactive Woman." TT :)
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Post# 1402-6/8/2001-05:45 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: A lurker comes out (Welcome Pumper)
MESSAGE: Hi Pumper! Welcome to the club. Feeling better about suds now?
Its amazing how many of us are out there. I started almost 20 years ago and everyone including me thought I was the only washer nut around.
Hey what kind of Laundromat was that you saw? Do you know the year on it? Curious.
jon/jetcone
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Post# 1403-6/8/2001-05:53 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Laundromat Pic Of Day
MESSAGE: Louis, Robert was right in stating what CU thought about tumbler washers in the 50s. It was not until Westinghouse came out with the non tilt tub design that its washing ability was ranked average with the top loaders. They blamed a lot of the lessened washing ability on the poorer performance of the low sudsing detergents of the time. A lot has changed since then. I think, though, that your feelings about agitator machines will modify somewhat when you see a few of the really good ones in action. TT
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Post# 1404-6/8/2001-05:55 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Display Properties (Its subjective)
MESSAGE: Robert, I agree that there is no best for every situation washer. TT
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Post# 1405-6/8/2001-06:09 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (1964 Frigidaire at 1164 Morning Glory Circle)
MESSAGE: Robert, but that was not nearly as shocking as when they opened the ark at your bar mitzvah and found a three ring pump agitator as the crown on the Torah. TT :)
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Post# 1406-6/8/2001-06:13 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Donna Reed attractions)
MESSAGE: Bob, are you talking about Paul Peterson, the O'Keef and Merritt combo, the 58 WP pair or what? Certainly not the gas stove, I hope. TT
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Post# 1407-6/8/2001-06:14 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Sam's first dw)
MESSAGE: RichIt was a demo D&M portable.
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Post# 1408-6/8/2001-06:21 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (1964 Frigidaire at 1164 Morning Glory Circle)
MESSAGE: I always liked the show. I liked the idea of someone with super powers getting back at stupid or evil people, maybe a cultural memory of the Golem of Prague. I loved Endora and would not have treated her like Derwood did. Loved her even better when I found out that Agnes was Lesbian. It just all fit together so well then. I guess she was the first Lesbian Avenger. TT
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Post# 1409-6/8/2001-06:30 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: WESTINGHOUSE AND KELVINATOR (Perforated Tub Orbital Kelvinator)
MESSAGE: Poor Aroooooh, such a bleak setting. Florida is a lot like that in this country. You really need basements or barns for large treasures, although big attics work for small appliances and housewares. TT
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Post# 1410-6/8/2001-06:41 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Magical Appliances)
MESSAGE: There were many shows that I watched for the appliances, large and small. I loved the Hotpoint appliances when Lucy and Desi moved to Connecticut and all the Bendix stuff on Father Knows Best. It is interesting to see how many of the shows had Coffeemasters or Pyrex percolators somewhere in the kitchen. That is also another bonus of some old movies, like that fabulous kitchen in the Lana Turner version of Immitation of Life. TT
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Post# 1411-6/8/2001-06:50 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: A lurker comes out
MESSAGE: Welcome to Jay. With this club, people who need appliances are the luckiest people in the world. You will have a great time with a great bunch of people and appliances. Tom
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Post# 1412-6/8/2001-06:58 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A lurker comes out (Welcome to Applianceville)
MESSAGE: Hi Jay welcome to Applianceville. Another Frigidaire Fan, YAY. It's really funny to find out that so many of us have been Frigidaire Fans all of our lives. I'm so glad you joined, don't worry about not ever rebuilding an appliance, some of our members have spent hours and hours restoring these vintage machines, others just like to use and enjoy the machines and collect the literature. Please ask as many questions as you'd like, we're a really friendly group here. Congrats on Finding you're first Frigidaire Pumper (as well as buying your new house), what kind of Frigidaire washer did you get?
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Post# 1413-6/8/2001-07:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (1964 Frigidaire at 1164 Morning Glory Circle)
MESSAGE: And it was going up and down.
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Post# 1414-6/8/2001-07:04 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Magical Appliances)
MESSAGE: That's what I meant - should have said "bottom" freezer. I wonder why there was never a "versatile" refrigerator.....probably cause there's no such thing!
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Post# 1415-6/8/2001-07:06 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Display Properties (Its subjective)
MESSAGE: That's why we NEED to have many of them, to match the laundering situation with the machine.
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Post# 1416-6/8/2001-07:17 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Magical Appliances)
MESSAGE: I used to watch Bewitched, My Three Sons (for the appliances and the oldest son,) The Brady Bunch (appliance wasteland - but I did like the indoor grill and built-in ovens) but I don't remember ever seeing Father Knows Best, may have to catch some of them on cable now to see the Bendix line. I do remember the Beaver, but I didn't know any of the 50's brands and styles, so I couldn't identify any of them. This area didn't have cable TV until I was in High School (four years ago -hee hee!) so there weren't a lot of choices on the three networks.
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Post# 1417-6/8/2001-07:21 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: A lurker comes out
MESSAGE: Welcome and congrats on finding a Frigidaire for your house! I remember some great appliance shops in downtown Phoenix when I lived there. I'm not surprised you are finding some vintage units around, Sun City would be a great hunting place. Enjoy the club - I don't think it's too late to make plans to attend our convention in Minneapolis in August, we can give you more details if you're interested.
Welcome again - Greg
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Post# 1418-6/8/2001-07:22 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (1964 Frigidaire at 1164 Morning Glory Circle)
MESSAGE: Rich, the original pilot of the show had a much different kitchen--I believe it was to imply an apartment. Anyway, the dishwasher was with a clear door and it had a roto rack. The washer & dryer were Maytags, TOL models like on the Beverly Hillbillies that year.
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Post# 1419-6/8/2001-07:37 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Donna Reed attractions)
MESSAGE: Well let's see--now I know what that early washer & dryer were--could never figure it out. What was the w/d combo that was there for a season or two--including dirty dishes being shoved in there while Donna was out of town (O'K&M?). Well, let's see, I like thet LK pair--even one episode had donna starting it and having water filling in it. We had a "flair" type of range at one time. And when the built-in oven kitchen was added, the remark was that thing had more buttons than a space ship & your mother was the only one who knew how to operate it--plus the very last year(s) when the kenmore dishwasher was installed. I mean, a doctor's house not having a dishwasher--yeah I know, was supposed to represent the typical american family home in some ways, but give me a break. And the awful melmac dishes. I remember when corning ware pots were prominently used, I guess when they were really trying to market that stuff. And, let's not forget, Carl Betz & Bob Crane. Never Mr. Petersen.
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Post# 1420-6/8/2001-07:40 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Magical Appliances)
MESSAGE: There was a kitchen in Imitation of Life? LOL I could never get past John Gavin
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Post# 1421-6/8/2001-07:45 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Display Properties (Its subjective)
MESSAGE: Well, I think our contrived machine would be a perfect one. A pulsating Frigidaire, variable water levels, electronic temp control, and separate knobs for variable agitation & spin speeds--from 300 rpm to 1140 rpm for spin. And, don't forget the circle-of-spray fill too. I think I'd have a heart attack if that machine were designed. Couldn't imagine a laundry scenario that couldn't be met with that design of machine.
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Post# 1422-6/8/2001-07:48 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (agitator in ark, pulsating, yet)
MESSAGE: Good Heavens, even then, he was developing animated effects. I ask you, is this young man going places or what? Welllll, yes he is, but you would never believe how South Dakota figures into the picture. Tom :)
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Post# 1423-6/8/2001-07:52 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Magical Appliances)
MESSAGE: Greg, you might be too young to remember, but there was a versatile, or semi versatile refrigerator, a side by side, (how's that for egalitarian terminology?) where part of the freezer could be switched to refrigerated fresh food storage if the need arose, or kept as part of the freezer. The box had three doors. TT
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Post# 1424-6/8/2001-07:54 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Display Properties (no one perfect washer)
MESSAGE: Amen, hand the young man a teddy bear. The only real solution is not multiple speed washers, it is multiple washers. TT
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Post# 1425-6/8/2001-08:16 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Display Properties (no one perfect washer)
MESSAGE: Please don't condemn those of us who are space-challenged and can't have more than 1 washer. Could I have a teddy bear too? I need a hug.
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Post# 1426-6/8/2001-08:27 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (sitcom appliances)
MESSAGE: Ah yes, the Beaver. The first time sex was discussed on TV: June says, "Ward, don't you think you were a little hard on the Beaver last night?" The Cleavers' set changed from an older house at the start to the newer one. The old one had a kitchen with a free standing gas stove. The new one had the GE builtin cooktop and ovens and one of the tall refrigerators with roll out freezer, but pre-frostguard.
I sorta figured when I got the 61 custom imperial range, that if I could no longer watch Mike Considine who was the oldest of the 3 sons when the series started, I could at least have a stove like the one in their kitchen, likewise the Hotpoint ranges and dishwashers to watch in place of David and Rick Nelson. I guess we still don't have a Hotpoint water dryer, come to think of it. TT
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Post# 1427-6/8/2001-08:49 ||| ()
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (DW on Pilot)
MESSAGE: I think that see-thru door DW on the bewitched pilot was either a prop or was a store sample, it probably was a top loader. At somepoint I will capture a frame of that video to post a picture of that dishwasher.
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Post# 1428-6/8/2001-08:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Oh No)
MESSAGE: Ooops that last "ghost" post was from little old me. That's strange I thought I fixed that bug, guess not. Back to the old drawing board.
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Post# 1429-6/8/2001-08:56 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Donna Reed attractions)
MESSAGE: Tom, which was the Okeefe and Merit combo? Was that in the last kitchen? In the last version of the kitchen, the oven had moved and was pretty much out of view all the time and I never could make it out. I remember the old kitchen with freestanding appliances, and someone told me at the very end she had some Kenmore things, but what were the inbetween ones, when she first got the updated kitchen, with the coppertone top freezer refrigerator and the built in oven? I always thought the frig might be Norge or Kelvinator but was never sure. I saw the '58 washer in one episode, but did not realize at the time what it was. I believe there was a dishwasher only in the very last revision of the kitchen. For a Dr's wife, it should have been included in the first updated kitchen. Were there any colored episodes of Donna Reed? Nick at Nite never showed them if there were. I know she left the air right on the cusp of all that.
Speaking of Bewitched, in one or two of the oldest black and white episodes, Donna's kitchen is used as Gladys Kravitz's kitchen.
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Post# 1430-6/8/2001-09:03 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Magical Appliances)
MESSAGE: Did Father Knows Best ever have a Westinghouse f/l? I always thought that's what it was, but at that time I was not very good at recognizing pre 60s appliances. I know Hazel had a Duomatic at one point.
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Post# 1431-6/8/2001-09:05 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Magical Appliances)
MESSAGE: Oh I don't know...I saw an ad for an early 70s Sears one that had 3 sections, 1 of which could be either frig or freezer. :) It was back when they were doing that ad series where they'd say, why does so and so who could afford any (name of appliance) in the world, buy a Sears.
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Post# 1432-6/8/2001-09:06 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Magical Appliances)
MESSAGE: Are you referring to the oldest, oldest son that disappears after while, or Robby? I like either/or. :)
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Post# 1433-6/8/2001-09:10 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Donna Reed attractions)
MESSAGE: While I found the lack of dishwasher for Donna kind of odd, I think overall people regardless of their status were far less "hoity toity" than they are today, they were just regular people, which would explain why they lived in a very "typical" home using very "typical" things.
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Post# 1434-6/8/2001-09:11 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: A lurker comes out (Welcome!)
MESSAGE: Welcome to the club, Jay. I imagine that there might be an appliance graveyard or two out in the deserts, like htere's that airplaine graveyard. Congrats on your new house. You are putting a down payment on a Frigidaire Jet-Action set? How much are new ones going for these days? I haven't been in a store that sells new in a long time, so I'll have to find time to go shopping soon...
-ph
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Post# 1435-6/8/2001-09:13 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Magical Appliances)
MESSAGE: Oops.."that time" being the 70s when they used to show Father Knows Best on tv here during the day.
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Post# 1436-6/8/2001-09:21 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Oh No)
MESSAGE: Robert, in addition to the ghost posts, why do some profiles not appear when clicked on? I get some message about it not being found. Is there a way to remain anonymous in Applianceville? TT
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Post# 1437-6/8/2001-10:12 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Donna Reed attractions)
MESSAGE: Scott, as best I remember, not having seen any of Donna on Nick at Night, the kitchen was generally credited to either the Gas Association or Gas Appliances Manufacturers' Group. The kitchens I remember had the free standing gas range that was usually in full view. The only times I saw the laundry equipment, it was against the wall, behind the table in the breakfast area of the kitchen facing the wall where hte stove was. I do not remember it being shot that much because the action was away from that wall toward the other kitchen areas. The combo would have been after the 58 WPs because combos were not really getting going until 58. The O'K&M (sounds like a ranch or a railroad) was sometime like maybe 60. It was not around long. It had a 100,000 BTU gas burner and did not spin at all. One of its selling features was that it did not put wrinkles into clothes. Can you imagine the blower it must have taken to handle that much heat? It would probably suck open an unlatched door. A friend told me that when they took out their old 33' wide Kenmore gas combo that it had charred a portion of the floor under the burner. Maybe you had to install the O'K&M on a cement (see ment as we say in the south) surface. The dishwasher was probably not a priority to the set designer and might not have been pushed by the gas people since the Preway was the only dw that used gas. TT
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Post# 1438-6/8/2001-10:16 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Magical Appliances)
MESSAGE: FKB had Bendix laundry appliances, except in the reunion shows when the folks had the LK combo. I did not watch Hazel that much. The first family was not too bad, but the second, younger family was a pain. It was also kinda sad to see such an excellent actress playing a maid, even if she ran the house. TT
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Post# 1439-6/8/2001-10:20 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Donna Reed attractions)
MESSAGE: Paul Peterson!!! Ummmmm.
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Post# 1440-6/8/2001-10:20 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Oh No)
MESSAGE: Hmmm, interesting Tom. Give me an example of some that do and some that don't show up. It might be an issue with Netscape again. Netscape does not like spaces in filenames, so anyone that signed up with a user name with a space might throw netscape. I everyone could scrap Netscape in favor of IE, but at the office you don't have such a choice. If that's the case I think I have a fix in my head.
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Post# 1441-6/8/2001-10:22 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (1964 Frigidaire at 1164 Morning Glory Circle)
MESSAGE: UUUUHHHHHH! Shocking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post# 1442-6/8/2001-10:25 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Display Properties (washer doesn't agitate)
MESSAGE: Steve, I bet you ruined the transmission LOL!!! Louis
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Post# 1443-6/8/2001-10:26 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Display Properties (Its subjective)
MESSAGE: Bob: Don't forget the switch that turns from Pulsating Agitator over to Bouncing Basket Wash for your Woolens!
jet
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Post# 1444-6/8/2001-10:30 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Display Properties (The Club Washer Design)
MESSAGE: A few years back I designed (on paper) an extra-large capacity, semi-solid tub washer, that would measure the water level, dispose of any sand, filter the water and would spin the water out into the cabinet in a matter of seconds and get up to speed in 20 seconds like a Frigidaire. This would prevent the normal time-wasting that modern washers do while spin-draining. Since 90% of the water was thrown over the top of the tub, it wouldn't strain the water through the clothes, like modern spin-drain machines or neutral-drain machines.
I'll scan my drawings, we could design our own club machine using this model as a basic design.
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Post# 1445-6/8/2001-10:31 ||| jaxcubb (Woodstock, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (1964 Frigidaire at 1164 Morning Glory Circle)
MESSAGE: I grew up with Bewitched when it was on prime time (evenings). I recorded all of the Dick York Episodes back when Nick at Nite started airing them (11 or 12 years ago now). Seems like the pilot epsidode had Maytag appliances, and thereafter, everything was Frigidaire.
Mike
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Post# 1446-6/8/2001-10:37 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: POTD - Kelvinator
MESSAGE: I take it the POTD is a franklin transmission machine?
I cam across a model similar to this in the Krusher heap. The tub was interesting as it had only 4 or 5 sections of perforations between solid porcelain. I had to laugh at the agitator -- those big fins on the top to kick up water and splash like the orbital machines. Sad, sad, sad...
-ph
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Post# 1447-6/8/2001-10:40 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Display Properties (Its subjective)
MESSAGE: Jon Charles, I'm glad you reminded me of that bouncing idea. I guess I had the wool pulled over my brain on that one.
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Post# 1448-6/8/2001-10:42 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Display Properties (The Club Washer Design)
MESSAGE: I'm tingling already!!!!
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Post# 1449-6/8/2001-10:47 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Father Knows Best Laundromat)
MESSAGE: Hi Scott
I remember one Father Knows Best episode where the family gets a new washing machine and it is a Westinghouse Laundromat. There were a lot of scenes with the new machine in it because the plot of the story is that Kathy is intrigued with the new washer and wants to wash everything. I think it was a 54 model, if the show was on then.
Rich
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Post# 1450-6/8/2001-10:56 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Donna Reed attractions)
MESSAGE: Yes, there should have been a candy bar named for him. I saw him on some cable channel several years ago. He has plumped up a bit, like Ball Park Franks that plump when you heat them. He was or is running something for helping former child actors cope with what they went through.
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Post# 1451-6/8/2001-11:01 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: RE: A lurker comes out (Welcome Pumper)
MESSAGE: thanks jon. beats me what year the laundromat was. i'll have to look at it again. the only thing i really remember about it was a black dial that you could turn and it would display info about different types of fabric care (i think). and there was a flat vertical control panel at the top.
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Post# 1452-6/8/2001-11:03 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Magical Appliances)
MESSAGE: Greg,
Philips had a versatile fridge!!! It had four compartments and they could be used for several ends. I believe only the small unit at the bottom was always a freezer, so it always was a bit of a bottom, but still quite versatile.
Luigi
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Post# 1453-6/8/2001-11:05 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Father Knows Best Laundromat)
MESSAGE: Rich, I only remember the show in syndication in the late 50s/early 60s when I would catch it if I was home sick during school or sometimes in the summer and the only episodes I saw all featured the two older Bendix machines. TT
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Post# 1454-6/8/2001-11:11 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: RE: A lurker comes out (Welcome to Applianceville)
MESSAGE: thanks! i only wish now i'd bought a bigger house! and of course homes in this area of the country don't have basements so that presents another challenge. the washer i may be getting (now help me on this) is a 1-18, has glass viewing port in the lid, has a perforated tub, and the agitator has 4 or 5 rings on it. my previous machine had a solid tub and only a couple of rings. i'm going to invest in a digital camera and will set up a photo page when the baby comes home!
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Post# 1455-6/8/2001-11:15 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: RE: A lurker comes out
MESSAGE: thanks Greg. i do have vacation the first 2 weeks of august, but family will be visiting from wisconsin right after i move into my new house. i get to MSP occasionally on business, so maybe Unimatic1140 will give me a personal tour sometime!
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Post# 1456-6/8/2001-11:21 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: A lurker comes out (Welcome Pumper)
MESSAGE: Pumper, I baby sat for a family that had that machine. It was of the newer design with the two vanes in the tub. You turned one part of the dial to get the programs to appear and another part of the dial to move the pointer. I remember all the instructions for washing blankets. You added detergent and started the machine. When it was filled, you stopped it and put in the blanket and maybe let it tumble 1 minute, then stopped and let it soak. All of this was written on the cycle bar that came up when you turned the collar-like part of the dial and this whole blanket thing might have had the automatic stops like after the fill and after the 1 minute tumble, but I never watched it work. Each cycle set its own water temps, but it seems they had variable wash times. There was a drip dry cycle that skipped the spin. This was not the L-1000, but a similarly styled model maybe the next step down or the successor to it. Has anyone ever seen an L-1000? I saw the pair in a store. Beautiful gray/beige with wood trim and the first WH machines I saw with dispensers for bleach and fabric softener. You pushed buttons to get the cycle. It had a rapid advance timer. It was kinda scary when you realized what was under the glamorous cabinet. TT
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Post# 1457-6/8/2001-11:22 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: RE: A lurker comes out (Welcome!)
MESSAGE: thanks! it's an old machine. just buying a washer for now. i have discovered a great appliance graveyard. kind of reminds me of the south dakota pics i've seen here. just have to watch out for the rattlers. that's where i found this one. they refurbished it and want $150. i found another place that had 2, but he wants $300 each, and they don't even have a view port in the lid!
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Post# 1458-6/8/2001-11:22 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD - Kelvinator (A Franklin it is)
MESSAGE: Franklin it is. Did you notice the vanes in the tub for that extra movement during the tub-indexing. In my '51 GE that has an indexing tub, the tub is completely smooth so the indexing action really doesn't slow the turnover of the wash at all. But in those Franklin machines, those vanes in the side of the tub act to make the turnover even less. We're the designers paying any attention to what they were doing at all???
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Post# 1459-6/8/2001-11:24 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (So there was a Laundromat on FKB)
MESSAGE: I knew it. I could have sworn that I saw a Westinghouse Laundromat set on Father Knows Best, years ago when I was a kid. But with everyone talking about seeing Bendix machines on that show, I was just assuming that I was remembering it wrong.
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Post# 1460-6/8/2001-11:27 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A lurker comes out
MESSAGE: Absolutely Jay, the next time your here on business, bring along a duffle bag full of laundry!
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Post# 1461-6/8/2001-11:30 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: RE: A lurker comes out (Welcome Pumper)
MESSAGE: wow that is some memory you have. so when should i tell them to send it out to you??
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Post# 1462-6/8/2001-14:01 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: A lurker comes out
MESSAGE: Hi Jay. Glad you're here. It's so nice to discover people with the same passion for washers & other major appliances. I'm thrilled & envyous you've identified a refurbed 1/18. Such luck. And congrats on the new house.
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Post# 1463-6/8/2001-15:00 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Magical Appliances)
MESSAGE: Thanks Tom for that and the Donna info. I liked Shirley Booth, and actually I never have seen her in anything but Hazel. I"ll have to check out a movie or something that she played in sometime.
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Post# 1464-6/8/2001-15:02 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Father Knows Best Laundromat)
MESSAGE: It was, and as a matter of fact I remember that episode! Thanks Rich, Scott :)
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Post# 1465-6/8/2001-15:03 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Donna Reed attractions)
MESSAGE: He still is however, a very attractive man, IMHO.
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Post# 1466-6/8/2001-15:20 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD - Kelvinator
MESSAGE: PeterH770:
Speaking of which, I believe I saw a Kelvinator like that sitting outside in someone's backyard a few years ago. Quite a few as a matter of fact (in 1975 or 1976). Give or take it that the control panel was slightly different, but the machine I did see sitting outside was in fact, a Kelvinator. You don't have any idea as to what the vintage of this machine is, do you??
--Charles--
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Post# 1467-6/8/2001-15:25 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: A lurker comes out
MESSAGE: Hi Pumper,
Welcome to appliance heaven. Good to hear from you!
Todd
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Post# 1468-6/8/2001-15:37 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: New "Lady" in the Georgia Club
MESSAGE: Steve1-18:
I am thinking that when I finally get my house (which is going to be here in the Washington, D. C. area..... I am going to stay in the area, I love the area too much to move elsewhere), I figure that I am not going to have a gas connection for any dryers, but I will probably have a gas connection for cooking. So, unless I get lucky and end up getting a gas connection for a dryer in my new home, if I end getting a Lady Kenmore dryer (and I do want one exactly like yours) exactly like yours, then more than likely, mines is going to be an electric dryer.
And while we're on the subject of Kenmores, what's the current status of your keyboard Kenmore Model 900??
--Charles--
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Post# 1469-6/8/2001-15:39 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: A lurker comes out (Hello Jay, I'm Charles....)
MESSAGE: Welcome to the club. We are glad to have you. Not to risk opening up a can of worms and so forth, but are you going to do a profile in the profile section?? I would like to know what your favorite vintage machines are, and what dream machines (both vintage and modern) are you seeking??
--Charles--
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Post# 1470-6/8/2001-15:40 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD - Kelvinator (What is the vintage of this Franklin Kelvinator??)
MESSAGE: Uni:
Do you know what the vintage of this machine is??
--Charles--
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Post# 1471-6/8/2001-16:51 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Donna Reed attractions)
MESSAGE: Okeefe & Merrit combo - what is that??? I need a picture!
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Post# 1472-6/8/2001-16:52 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Magical Appliances)
MESSAGE: Yes both! I was crushed when Robby married that woman!
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Post# 1473-6/8/2001-17:00 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD - Kelvinator
MESSAGE: On the Franklin design Kelvinator that I used for a couple of loads before getting rid of it, the agitator fins on the bottom were very small and ineffective. Those silly fins at the top of the agitator (shaped a lot like a cone overall) were equally as silly. The pathetic agitator combined with that fundamentally stupid indexing tub added up to the worst machine I've ever used, topped only by the '47 Bendix - but it's so cute!
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Post# 1474-6/8/2001-17:05 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: A lurker comes out (Welcome to Applianceville)
MESSAGE: You will love the 1-18! The capacity is amazing and the cleaning/rinsing/spinning are admirable. Several of the club members have them (some have lots of them) and all are loved well. What color are they?
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Post# 1475-6/8/2001-17:27 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: RE: A lurker comes out (Welcome to Applianceville)
MESSAGE: the washer is white and the tub does look huge. it's on layaway until i move at the end of july. won't fit in my apartment, unfortunately!
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Post# 1476-6/8/2001-17:30 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: RE: A lurker comes out (Hello Jay, I'm Charles....)
MESSAGE: hi Charles
my profile should be there already. i'll add to it as i discover more cool machines.
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Post# 1477-6/8/2001-17:32 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: RE: A lurker comes out (austinado16)
MESSAGE: thanks Todd--glad to be here!
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Post# 1478-6/8/2001-17:35 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Shirley Booth )
MESSAGE: check out 1952's "Come Back Little Sheba". she played the lead and it was a great movie about a housewife dealing with her drunken husband.
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Post# 1479-6/8/2001-17:36 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: RE: A lurker comes out (appnut )
MESSAGE: thanks buddy! i'm pretty happy about it myself!
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Post# 1480-6/8/2001-17:40 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Shirley Booth )
MESSAGE: k, thanks!
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Post# 1481-6/8/2001-17:55 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: Westinghouse Laundromat 4 Jetcone
MESSAGE: i went back to the used appliance store today and looked at the laundromat again. it just said "custom imperial" on it, and the woman said it ran quiet as a mouse. only the rubber gasket(?) is almost completely gone around the lip of the drum.
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Post# 1482-6/8/2001-19:08 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse Laundromat 4 Jetcone (Laundromat)
MESSAGE: OOOOHHHHH that sounds real nice can she ship and wrap???
jet
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Post# 1483-6/8/2001-19:12 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD - Kelvinator ('74)
MESSAGE: 1974 actually.
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Post# 1484-6/8/2001-22:58 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse Laundromat 4 Jetcone (Did it look like this picutre?)
MESSAGE: I scanned the only Laundromat that I could find in my manuals that said Custom Imperial on it. If this is the one, it's a three belt drive model. The next picture is the exploded view of this machine - in photos!
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/surgilator/vwp?.dir=/New+Collection+Photos&.src=ph&.dnm=Westy+L110.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/surgilator/lst%3f%26.dir=/New%2bCollection%2bPhotos%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 1485-6/8/2001-23:00 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: A lurker comes out (Won't fit in your apartment, huh?)
MESSAGE: Go to Scott's photo album - you won't believe your eyes! Do you have your photo page link up Scott?
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Post# 1486-6/8/2001-23:08 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse Laundromat 4 Jetcone (Did it look like this picutre?)
MESSAGE: that's the one! the L-110
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Post# 1487-6/8/2001-23:29 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: New "Lady" in the Georgia Club (900)
MESSAGE: The 900 is in storage. It needs a few parts and it has a leak which I have not yet found the source. Now that I have the matching dryer, I am motivated to drag the washer out and at least put the "girls" side by side.
Will be out of town visiting friends, so it won't be this weekend.
BTW, picked up a couple of hitchikers on the way home from work, today. Kenmore and Whirlpool electric driers. Will play with them and probably take a few parts off before sending them to the crusher. Both look like 1980's models. Both have electronic sensors. Kenmore has the woodgrain top, black panel, with silver knob in the middle. 2 auto heat cycles and 2 timed cycles. The whirlpool has a auto normal and auto PP cycle, plus timed cycle and an infinite temperature control.
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Post# 1488-6/8/2001-23:34 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse Laundromat 4 Jetcone (Did it look like this picutre?)
MESSAGE: The five wash water temperatures are: Hot, Medium, Warm, Cool and Cold. Two rinse temps. warm and cold.
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Post# 1489-6/8/2001-23:56 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse Laundromat 4 Jetcone (Did it look like this picutre?)
MESSAGE: Nice scans Greg! That cut-away view is excellent. Boy...does that view bring back some memories!
By the way, if anyone has, or comes across that fill hose that has the big "U" shaped end near the front of the tub, keep me in mind. I would love to have one.
Todd
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Post# 1490-6/8/2001-00:19 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD - Kelvinator (I wish I coul dsee inside!)
MESSAGE: I just wish I could see what the inside of this Kelvinator looked like, franklin transmission or not!!!
Who was franklin anyway?
By this stage i think Kelvinator was absorbed by Simpson in Australia, and thus used the Simpson washing machine structure - no indexing tub. In fact I thought that was boring considering all the action that was going on in my Aunties westinghouse!!!
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Post# 1491-6/8/2001-01:15 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse Laundromat 4 Jetcone (Did it look like this picutre?)
MESSAGE: THQAT'S THE ONE my "other mnother" had from the late 1950s until it died and she got the monkey wards. She's the one that had the 57 Kenmore dryer that yielded to the Hotpoint Touch Command in Windsor. That was the machine I'd go and hide in the den when I could see the rubber gasket shifting while it was tumbling after drain until spin because I kn ew there was a good chance the load was very off balanced and it would start hopping around the laundry room. Which it did many a time.
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Post# 1492-6/8/2001-01:17 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse Laundromat 4 Jetcone (Did it look like this picutre?)
MESSAGE: I believe the timer dial had different colored lights during parts of the cycle too.
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Post# 1493-6/8/2001-01:25 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse Laundromat 4 Jetcone (Did it look like this picutre?)
MESSAGE: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I never thought of that window being perfectly square. It was shorter on the bottom and wider toward the top with the sides angling out to make the wider width at the top. The lady 2 doors down had the combo that's just below this, although I never got to see it in person. I was told in 1965 when she moved out, it weighed a ton. Another unidentified memory spot in the childhood filled!!!
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Post# 1494-6/8/2001-01:38 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: Whirlpool Imperial 90
MESSAGE: came across a Whirlpool Imperial 90 washer in the field today. anybody have one that's been restored? i'd like to see any pics if you have them. looked like something from the early-mid '60's.
jay
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Post# 1495-6/8/2001-01:53 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Imperial 90
MESSAGE: Jay, if it just says "Whirlpool" it is 1967 or after, before that would be "RCA Whirlpool". Their appearance is somewhat similar until Whirlpool started with the slanted control panels in the late 60s.
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Post# 1496-6/8/2001-01:58 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A lurker comes out (Won't fit in your apartment, huh?)
MESSAGE: Well Greg, sounds like Jay is well on his way to his new home, but Jay, here is what he's talking about. :)
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/scott55405/lst?&.dir=/60+Frigidaire&.src=ph&.begin=9999&.view=t&.order=&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/scott55405/lst%3f%26.dir=/60%2bFrigidaire%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 1497-6/9/2001-02:00 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A lurker comes out (Won't fit in your apartment, huh?)
MESSAGE: Just in case that last link doesn't work, and since I don't know if you're a Yahoo member, this link should then work. :) Check out the other albums too to see my Arizona friends' vacuum collections.
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/scott55405/lst?.dir=/60+Frigidaire&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/scott55405/lst%3f.dir=/60%2bFrigidaire%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 1498-6/9/2001-03:21 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: RE: A lurker comes out (Won't fit in your apartment, huh?)
MESSAGE: it did and i am. impressive vac collection. i have a fantom cyclone xt found in a thrift shop for $13. and the Frigidaire is beautiful. did you find it at an estate sale?
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Post# 1499-6/9/2001-03:24 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Imperial 90
MESSAGE: it may have said RCA as well. there was a boxy control panel on the right side, and the left side looked like it would light up.
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Post# 1500-6/9/2001-03:54 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: YAY
MESSAGE: 1500 posts in 21 days, this club is really something!!!
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Post# 1501-6/9/2001-09:21 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Imperial 90 (Magazine ad picture - was it this one?)
MESSAGE: Was there a row of buttons across the top of the timer dial and lint filtering light? I used to have this machine and gave it up for the '75 Maytag my grandmother had, what a mistake! I would love to have the control panel of this machine as it would fit on the Whirlpool I have now - then I'd have that machine again!!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1?e&.intl=us&.flabel=fld5&.from=d&.pindex=12&start=1&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1%3fd%26.flabel=fld5%26.intl=us%26.src=ph
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Post# 1502-6/9/2001-09:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: POTD - Hamilton
MESSAGE: What a beautiful pair - were the agitators different in the Hamiltion than in the Norges? I seem to remember from my Consumer publication reading that Hamiltion washers didn't score quite as high as the Norge washers did. Just wondering what the difference could be.
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Post# 1503-6/9/2001-09:27 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: YAY
MESSAGE: Just wait until the site is listed on some of the search engines - then we'll be hopefully twice that number postings!
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Post# 1504-6/9/2001-11:03 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Imperial 90 (Magazine ad picture - was it this one?)
MESSAGE: i believe it is the same machine. i remember the filter light. i'm leaving town till tomorrow night and i think they're closed on monday. if you want, on tuesday i'll see what they want for it.
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Post# 1505-6/9/2001-11:15 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD - Kelvinator ('74)
MESSAGE: Thanks Uni:
Well, it wouldn't be that one then. I guess the Kelvinator I saw that year was an early to mid 1960's Kelvinator. I always knew that the Kelvinators from the 1960's on were bad designs. But I would have to think that EVEN back in those days, you should get about 10 years or so out of poorly designed washing machine.
But anyway, the Kelvinator I saw had a knob or two sitting on the left of the console, followed by a bank of push-buttons in the center of it, followed by what I assumed was the cycle timer at the right end of the console. That was my recollection of that particular Kelvinator model if I could recall correctly.
--Charles--
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Post# 1506-6/9/2001-11:22 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: New "Lady" in the Georgia Club (Sears Kenmore and Whirlpool Electric Dryers....)
MESSAGE: Well Steve:
Given my all too familiarity to Kenmore, I could very well guess the vintage of the Kenmore dryer you have picked up. The Whirlpool one, I'm not too sure of. The Kenmore dryer is either from the late 1970's (1976-80), or an early to mid 1980's model (1981-86). That's what my guess is.
--Charles--
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Post# 1507-6/9/2001-11:26 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse Laundromat 4 Jetcone (Jay-L110 question)
MESSAGE: Jay its way too cute! I thought it had the straight tub but it looks from Gregs manual it has the original slant tub. If you don't want it for your home, can you find out if she can ship with "freighters&craters" thats the people Uni uses and they seem to ship all over the country. AS you can see everybody, I have become a Westy fanatic --Uni will kill me!
jet/jon
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Post# 1508-6/9/2001-12:26 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: Greg: Bed Of Nails to Pan
MESSAGE: Greg;
I heard from Uni today that the filter holder was broken off in shipping. Sorry! I know Frigidaire has a conversion kit for the 1-18's that you can convert a bed of nails to a pan filter. In fact I may have one at the Cape. I am heading down there today 1:30Pm,and will try to dig one up for you and send it off to you this week so you can get your machine going!
Sorry that happened but we'll get it fixed one way or another! I also have more subtops too!
jet
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Post# 1509-6/9/2001-12:58 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Greg: Bed Of Nails to Pan
MESSAGE: Subtop......now thats a new one...well maybe it goes along with a dombottom?
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Post# 1510-6/9/2001-15:22 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Greg: Bed Of Nails to Pan
MESSAGE: No problem at all - these things happen. I have been so busy the last couple of days that I've not had the chance to email you. Thanks again for doing that, it's appreciated if not exactly like we'd planned!
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Post# 1511-6/9/2001-15:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Imperial 90 (Magazine ad picture - was it this one?)
MESSAGE: If you can get just the top, since I have the rest of the machine, that would be great - you can email me with details - gansky1@yahoo.com.
A Frigidaire fan with a graveyard!! Woo hoo!
Have a great weekend - Greg
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Post# 1512-6/9/2001-17:47 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD - Hamilton (Good question, but...)
MESSAGE: Nope, they used they exact same design---tub, agitator, timer as the Norge. You really have to question how CU came up with that rating. How can the exact same machine not score exactly same, I don't know, unless something was wrong with the Hamilton. The only difference between those two machines is the exterior trim!
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Post# 1513-6/9/2001-17:48 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: YAY
MESSAGE: I've submitted us to the major search engines. It will probably take a few weeks, but we're about to go international.
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Post# 1514-6/9/2001-17:49 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse Laundromat 4 Jetcone (Go-Jon-Go!)
MESSAGE: I'm not going to kill you over that silly, I could think of a lot better reasons to kill you mister!!! Go for it Jon, that's a georgous machine!
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Post# 1515-6/9/2001-17:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Greg: Bed Of Nails to Pan (Its a tub-ring)
MESSAGE: That's jets what calls a tub-ring. I know, I know.
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Post# 1516-6/9/2001-18:04 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: We'll to say we found a bit of stuff today, would be a major understatement. We saw a few cool major appliances, but we found a lot of little stuff...
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/estatesale3/lst?&.dir=/Estate+Sale+Saturday++June+9+2001&.src=ph&.begin=9999&.view=t&.order=&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/estatesale3/lst%3f%26.dir=/Estate%2bSale%2bSaturday%2b%2bJune%2b9%2b2001%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 1517-6/9/2001-18:35 ||| mooney6au (Sydney, Australia)
SUBJECT: Congrats on new web site
MESSAGE: Robert,
Congratulations on a terrific new web site. I've away on business for 3 weeks and returned to find this.I've joined up.
mooney6au(Greg)
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Post# 1518-6/9/2001-20:41 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (Great picts)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the GREAT picts Robert!! Looks like you and Scott found some really neat things.
If you ever come across an E-Lux Model G that is in good shape with the power nozzle please pick it up for me. My Auto F needs her cousin for company.
QOTS
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Post# 1519-6/9/2001-21:12 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Congrats on new web site (Welcome back Greg)
MESSAGE: We'll thanks Greg, welcome to the club, great profile by the way. It was interesting that you used wringer washers in college dorm.
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Post# 1520-6/9/2001-21:14 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (You mean like this one?)
MESSAGE: You mean like this $3.00 estate sale one???...
Of course I'll keep a watch out for you but you might have to fight Scott over it. I'll tell you what, I'll slip it into the Jeep for ya Jason when Scott's not lookin'.
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/miscbrands00/vwp?.dir=/quick+share&.dnm=Early+60%27s+Model+G+Electrolux.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 1521-6/9/2001-21:18 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (You mean like this one?)
MESSAGE: YESSSSSSS!!!!! Thats the one!! Ok, that works for me. Just let me know how much I owe ya.
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Post# 1522-6/9/2001-21:19 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (You mean like this one?)
MESSAGE: Oh my, I must do something about that air leak.
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Post# 1523-6/9/2001-22:01 ||| Jetcirclefill (Pensacola, Fl)
SUBJECT: Couldn't stand it any more!!!
MESSAGE: Been following along for a few weeks. Couldn't take it any longer. Had to get aboard. What a bunch of cool guys!
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Post# 1524-6/9/2001-22:02 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Scott & Robert, you guys are too much! Thanks for sharing the fun, the pictures are great.
Todd
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Post# 1525-6/9/2001-22:05 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Couldn't stand it any more!!!
MESSAGE: Welcome to the coolest group on the net. Glad to have you.
Todd
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Post# 1526-6/9/2001-22:19 ||| Jetcirclefill (Pensacola, Fl)
SUBJECT: RE: Couldn't stand it any more!!!
MESSAGE: Thanks Todd,
What color Constellation are you looking for?
I have a vintage range hood in my kitchen. It's called a window. LOL
Tom
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Post# 1527-6/9/2001-22:41 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: oh Jason!
MESSAGE: Jason,
I've found a '64 LK dryer, the one that would match that LK pic that Robert posted a long while ago from the DC collection...
-ph
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Post# 1528-6/9/2001-23:17 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: The last picture... Now, Robert, what in heaven's name are you going to do with Scott's left calf and foot? I know you didn't find them at an estate sale, mister! And what is Scott going to do to get around now? I sure hope his car has an automatic transmission, because it'll sure be hard to use the clutch without half his left leg.
-ph
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Post# 1529-6/9/2001-01:08 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Couldn't stand it any more!!!
MESSAGE: Welcome to the club! These pictures may invoke some memories! :)
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/scott55405/lst?&.dir=/60+Frigidaire&.src=ph&.begin=9999&.view=t&.order=&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/scott55405/lst%3f%26.dir=/60%2bFrigidaire%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 1530-6/9/2001-01:17 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD - Hamilton (Good question, but...)
MESSAGE: I'm not surprised by that. I think there can be individual differences between two washers of the same brand. I've seen it happen overhere in the Netherlands between the same machines from different brands (Bosch and Siemens, Zanussi and Marynen). Perhaps the motor performs a little different, perhaps a bolt is a little tighter, I don't know (I'm not a technician!!!) but it's not uncommon.
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Post# 1531-6/9/2001-01:18 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: YAY
MESSAGE: Ofcourse we are already international you silly!
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Post# 1532-6/9/2001-01:40 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: That was a mighty interesting day. Are you still hesitant about the Admiral TV set? Go Robert, GO!!! And also take the Crosley fridge home. What a wonderful looking fridge. It looked like all the stuff in that house was very well kept.
BTW, I think her Majesty should inform us about the foodprocessing thing she purchased.
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Post# 1533-6/10/2001-04:45 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: New members
MESSAGE: In the first place welcome to the new members that signed up recently. Is one of you by any chance one of the new members that signed up at the Yahoo club? I was stunned by the fact that now we have left a ghost town overthere two new members signed up on the 3rd of June. Unfortunately after only one message from Appnut they were spammed by mr Rattan Furniture.
Louis
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Post# 1534-6/10/2001-05:01 ||| RobGwisdala (Troy Ohio 45373)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (1981-1985 Kenmore Washer)
MESSAGE: Hi Robert,
Thank you for the pictures. I enjoyed them very much.
Correction=
That 1970s Kenmore washer is really a 1981-1985 model.
I could tell by the markings on the control panel.
Rob
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Post# 1535-6/10/2001-05:20 ||| RobGwisdala (Troy Ohio 45373)
SUBJECT: WP/KM BD washers with DAA vs WP/KM DD washers with DAA
MESSAGE: Hello Everyone.
Is the WP/KM belt drive washers equipped with the Dual Action Agitator as rough on clothes just like the WP/KM direct drive washers equipped with the Dual Action Agitator?
Does the belt drive models with this agitator wash as well as the direct drive models with the same agitator?
Rob
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Post# 1536-6/10/2001-06:24 ||| jetcirclefill (Pensacola, Fl)
SUBJECT: RE: Couldn't stand it any more!!!
MESSAGE: It sure did, thanks scott. It must have been the springs for the cone roller that broke that kept it pumping all the time.We got it in the fall of 59 and being a new model they didn't have the new parts.
Tom
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Post# 1537-6/10/2001-06:38 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: A Southern Welcome to new members
MESSAGE: Welcome to the most unique group of people. I went out this weekend estate sale hunting in older parts of charleston and was not as lucky spent a total of 2.50. All the appliances I cam acorss were very new and not all Kenmore
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Post# 1538-6/10/2001-07:04 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT: Pix of the day 741c
MESSAGE: I had a old maytag like that one but I never got it up and running. The one I had looked the same on the outside but the inside was different. The burner on mine was on the top and the drum was perferated. There was no filter in the drum. It was on the bottom front in a tray like fashion. The exhaust was close to the floor and was only 3" instead of the standard 4" we all know today. It was heavy!
SD
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Post# 1539-6/10/2001-09:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Couldn't stand it any more!!! (Welcome to the club)
MESSAGE: Hi Jetcirclefill (great club name by the way), welcome to the club. Out of curiosity, how did you find us?
Thanks for the great info in your profile. By the way, shouldn't the store that your parents bought the WCI-60 Frigidaire have replaced that washer with the same machine as it was under warranty?
It sounds like the problem with the machine was a broken Brake Torque Spring, inside the Brake cup or the Wobble Plate Bearing was binding.
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Post# 1540-6/10/2001-09:51 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (Kenmore Washer)
MESSAGE: Actually Rob, the best way to tell is by looking at the model tag. If it is on the front or rear of the machine it is 80 or before, if it is under the lid it is 81 or later.
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Post# 1541-6/10/2001-09:54 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: YAY
MESSAGE: True Louis, "International" wasn't what I really meant, it is that we would then be in reach of everyone internationally. Right now we are just in reach from the old Yahoo club or by being found by accident.
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Post# 1542-6/10/2001-09:54 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: That house was just spotless including everything in it.
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Post# 1543-6/10/2001-09:56 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (1981-1985 Kenmore Washer)
MESSAGE: Thanks Rob for your correction. With this new-fangled stuff, a lot of times I'm just guessing from the picture because I didn't pay that close attention to the machine. Especially that oh-way-to-common kind.
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Post# 1544-6/10/2001-09:58 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: WP/KM BD washers with DAA vs WP/KM DD washers with DAA (rough on clothes)
MESSAGE: I can't say, but Kenmore and Whirlpool washers are the roughest on clothes of any of my washers, its so apparent when you watch them beat the clothes and then do the same load in another machine. The only one to come close to them is the Maytag AMP.
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Post# 1545-6/10/2001-10:05 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: WP/KM BD washers with DAA vs WP/KM DD washers with DAA
MESSAGE: Yes and no. As I have said before the DD Dual Action is not hard on clothes providing you load the machine properly, select the proper speed and set the wash times and water level correctly. Because it is a DD machine and has a shorter and faster stroke you don't need to use 14 mins of agitation to get a load of everyday clothes clean. 14 mins for a full load ( I don't mean packing them into the tub either) of muddy, greasy work clothes yes, but not everyday clothes.
You can get the same damage from a belt drive dual action machine if you wash for 14 mins with a few articles of clothing on high speed with low water level. It all has to do with the way the user operates the machine.
I guess Whirlpool redesigned the timer to step down to low speed on normal in the later years because people were accustomed to the belt drive machines and did not want to alter their laundry habits and Whirlpool could not afford to send everyone to laundry school either. So they decided to pick the less expensive option to fix the problem.
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Post# 1546-6/10/2001-10:20 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (He'll just have to manage)
MESSAGE: Oh, he'll be fine, but unfortunately, the part is NLA. He'll just have to hobble around for a bit till we fine a used one in decent shape, at the sales, and pull it off that.
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Post# 1547-6/10/2001-10:25 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: WP/KM BD washers with DAA vs WP/KM DD washers with DAA (Sorting Laundry)
MESSAGE: One of my friends has an 89 90 Series DD Kenmore, pre step down timer. This woman will take 3 basic loads of laundry and break it down into 6 or more loads. Not because it would not fit into the machine, but because they require different care. She is one of the few people I know that actually uses every cycle and every water temp and level of a machine.
She will take the whites and break it down into PP Whites, Cotton Sturdy, and delicate whites. All whites are warm or hot wash. The colored clothes get sorted into PP, normal soil warm wash, normal soil cold wash, havey soil warm wash, normal soil delicate cold wash and normal soil delicate warm wash.
Now she does this for herself, husband, and 2 kids. So you can imagine how large the laundry pile is, bus she is also one of the very few people who has never had dmamged clothing due to the DD washer. Her 8 year old son...now that is a different story.
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Post# 1548-6/10/2001-10:58 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Bug Fixed)
MESSAGE: Hi Tom, I fixed that bug that was preventing Netscape users from seeing any profile with a space in their user name. Can you please verify that you can read all the profiles from your 'puter, thanks.
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Post# 1549-6/10/2001-11:24 ||| jetcirclefill (Pensacola, Fl)
SUBJECT: RE: Couldn't stand it any more!!! (Welcome to the club)
MESSAGE: Thanks Uni,
That's what I thought too. They should have replaced it. It was a department store and I guess they didn't work that way. I was only 13 then but I can remember calling every week to see if the "springs" came in. They said the parts only cost $.40 each. I remember saying I would pay for them out of my allowance if they could just get it fixed. I was tired of the Easy.
Great collection you have there.
I use to run a hospital laundry. We had a 60lb, 200lb f/l, 3, 600lb tumblers with 3 pockets in each(they would shake the whole building during spin if not just right),5-100lb dryers, steam heated, a 400lb gas dryer, a lint box with water wash that was two stories high, a 4 and 6 pocket steam heated ironers and all the feed and folding equiptment. We would bring the washers up to temp with steam to 210F. They now have a tunnel washer. Did 5million lbs. of wash a year at a cost of $.32lb. Maintenance was a nightmare!
How did I find the site? Iwas looking for old appliances one day and your old site came up and I followed it to the new site and like I said,"Couldn't stand it any more!!!"
Tom
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Post# 1550-6/10/2001-12:40 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (I have to concur with Rob on this one, Uni....)
MESSAGE: The Kenmore washer that you have saw yesterday is an early to mid 1980's (1981-85) washer. They changed the markings on the control panel around 1980 or so.
The vintage of that dryer is correct however (even though, I have a picture of THAT EXACT dryer in my 1969 Sears Catalog, I believe that THAT dryer was still in production in 1971).
--Charles--
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Post# 1551-6/10/2001-12:49 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (Not necessarily, Jason.....)
MESSAGE: I say this because my family also purchased a 1978 model when I was 15 (when the 1967 BOL Kenmore conked out in July 1978), and on that model, I believe that the model number tag on our 1978 was also under the lid (just like both of the 1967's that I have used, the 1967 BOL Kenmore, and later, the 2 Speed/3 Cycle model). I think on the 1981 and later models (up until 1986), the model number tags were located on the front of the machine on the bottom left of the cabinet. On our 1990, the model number tag is located on opening right on top of the tub opening.
--Charles--
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Post# 1552-6/10/2001-13:42 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: GE Electric Sink found in Central Texas
MESSAGE: Have identified a 1947-1950 GE Electric Sink sink & dishwasher. Motor has a short & needs new seal. If anyone interested, please let me know. The owner had thought about taking it to the Dallas area and seeing if anyone would be interested in it for parts or something else. That was, until he met me & I told him about the club & told him I'd see if anyone would be interested in it. he says, otherwise it's in good shape.
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Post# 1553-6/10/2001-13:50 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, unfortunately that refrigerator was sold. I'm not even that huge a fan of the old round top refrigerators, but this one was just beautiful. Still, this type of unit requires manual defrosting, a household task that is not in my repertoire.
The food processor is a private label one offered by the American department store company "JCPenney". I have had one in the past and liked it, then I had a larger one which I didn't use much and didn't like as well so I sold it. This one is just the right size and it has cleaned up and works beautifully. It's not something I use often, but there are several tasks I like it for and for $1, I was happy to have another.
QEOM
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Post# 1554-6/10/2001-13:54 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (1981-1985 Kenmore Washer)
MESSAGE: Hi Rob, I noticed the markings also making it a later machine. The differences are quite subtle though, so Robert may not even have realized. The machine was in very nice condition. Scott
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Post# 1555-6/10/2001-13:55 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (Kenmore Washer)
MESSAGE: Thats interesting Jason..I knew the labels were in different places on some of them, but didn't realize when that change was made.
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Post# 1556-6/10/2001-13:57 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (He'll just have to manage)
MESSAGE: You SillyyyyyyyyyyyyyyYYYYYYYYY
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Post# 1557-6/10/2001-14:34 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (Not necessarily, Jason.....)
MESSAGE: I beg to differ with you Charles. Kenmore has placed the numbers in 4 different places. Left rear of the cabinet, attached to the lid hinge on the inside of the lid, on the left front bottom corner of the cabinet and the last change was under the lid in the middle of the top, this did not take place until the 80's. I will be more than happy to supply you with about 50 pich of various machines to show you if you wouldl ike.
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Post# 1558-6/10/2001-17:22 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Link to the '53 Kenmore washer
MESSAGE: Here are the details of the 1953 Kenmore washer for your viewing pleasure.
Yesterday, I got the agitator and the drive block out. Now to find a spanner wrench. You KM experts out there, have a look at the pics and tell me about the listing tub...
-ph
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/lst?&.dir=/1953+Kenmore+washer&.src=ph&.view=t&.last=1
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Post# 1559-6/10/2001-17:42 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: New messages not posting?
MESSAGE: I posted about 15 minutes ago, and no amount of reloading, exiting and retrying is bringing new messages up... hmmmm...
-ph
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Post# 1560-6/10/2001-18:36 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New messages not posting?
MESSAGE: Oh no, son of yapooo!!!!
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Post# 1561-6/10/2001-19:13 ||| jakins (Kissimmee, Fl.)
SUBJECT: Another Electric Sink Found
MESSAGE: Hi Guys
What a Great New Site! I have been reading the posts every day but since I don't have any old washing machines yet I have not had anything to ad. However If any of you are interested I have located A YOUNGSTOWN ELECTRIC SINK. It looks to be in good condition, However the racks are gone. I can send Pics If any of toou are Interested. I would buy it but I have nno way to find the racks.
Keep up the good work. And Uni I look Forward to the Weekly Estate sale update.
John
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Post# 1562-6/10/2001-21:57 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse Laundromat 4 Jetcone (Jay-L110 question)
MESSAGE: it is definitely a slanted tub. the rubber gasket that keeps the water from splashing out is pretty well gone from age. i think they're closed monday but will talk to them tuesday and get a price for you. i'll try to get a pic as well.
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Post# 1563-6/10/2001-22:34 ||| RobGwisdala (Troy Ohio 45373)
SUBJECT: WP/KM DD washers with DAA vs Amana Perfect Balance washers
MESSAGE: Hello Everyone.
In the January 2001 issue of Consumer Reports, They tested washing machines. They tested the WP/KM direct drive washer with the Dual Action agitator and the Amana Perfect Balance washer with the Curved Flex Vane agitator.
In this issue, Both the WP/KM and the Amana scored "Excellent" in washing ability. Why did the Amana get an excellent washing score with the conventional single action agitator? Also, The Amana's washing style is just like the belt drive WP/KM washers equipped with the single action Double Duty Super Surgilator agitator with the upswept fins.
Rob
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Post# 1564-6/10/2001-22:40 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: Flat Rock, NC
MESSAGE: We were off to Flat Rock this weekend to visit friends. Checked out some fabulous flea markets and antique malls. Check out the link. Got lots of neat pictures.
My find of the week: a Sunbeam Coffee Master. Brand new, never used. One flaw, the plastic lid is cracked. Seal nice and soft. Bargain price of 19.95. Anyone have an extra lid?
Got a hassack fan, too (new). A washer drain hose (still in the original bag) for a buck.
Got home in time to go to church, tonight and on the way home (from church), picked up another hitchiker (yes, there is a God!). A Speed Queen preforated stainless tub. Just had to hook it up when I got her home. Spins okay. Will have to wait 'til tomorrow to see if she's seaworthy.
That's all for now.
Steve 1-18
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/svb14_1953/lst?.dir=/Flat+Rock+Hunting&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/svb14_1953/vwp%3f.dir=/Friends%2bin%2bFlat%2bRock%26.dnm=Cliff%2band%2bSandy%2527s%2bhouse02.jpg%26.src=ph
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Post# 1565-6/10/2001-22:42 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: Flat Rock II
MESSAGE: Here's the link to some of our friend's pictures.
Steve 1-18
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/svb14_1953/lst?.dir=/Friends+in+Flat+Rock&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/svb14_1953/lst%3f%26.dir=/Flat%2bRock%2bHunting%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 1566-6/10/2001-23:11 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Flat Rock, NC
MESSAGE: Great pics Steve! I guess I know the origins of my big sink now. It must have originally come with the cabinets an everything as a Youngstown kitchen right? Looks like you guys had fun.
Todd
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Post# 1567-6/10/2001-23:11 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Link to the '53 Kenmore washer
MESSAGE: Hmm, I bet you need to replace one of the rubber ball supports Peter to un-list the Kenmore. The rubber balls are still available or you could pull one out of another machine. Is the bottom of the basket rusted or was that just dirt? The machine looks beautiful. I'll be interested to see if you can get the spanner nut off, sometimes they come right off, othertimes you need to drill.
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Post# 1568-6/10/2001-23:12 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Flat Rock, NC
MESSAGE: Great Picts Steve, LOVE the window lid Hamilton.
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Post# 1569-6/10/2001-23:14 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Another Electric Sink Found
MESSAGE: That's OK John, we can talk dishwashers too. By the way I loved you're link in your profile to the "unofficial Fibber McGee and Mollie Page".
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Post# 1570-6/10/2001-00:12 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD - Kelvinator (I am really fascinated by this Kelvinator)
MESSAGE: Not only do I want to see inside it and see what its conse shaped upside down agitator fins look like, but I would like to know when and why Kelvinator stopped making the orbital? Was it because they were taken over by WCI or some other reason???
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Post# 1571-6/10/2001-00:32 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: Looked at appliances this morning
MESSAGE: I looked at the Kleenmaid store this morning. Kleenmaid, as I think you know, import Amana appliances from the stated, Brandt from France and recently bought a small Sydney manufacturer of cooking appliances St George. They sell through there own stores, and have demonstration models set up so you can see how "superior" there appliances are supposed to be.
Anyway I fired up the Kleenmaid washer and I noticed that the tub indexed!!!! I watched the clothes go around and it didn't impede the washing action at all, or not that I noticed while trying to dodge one of their pushy salesmen. I thought a tub indexed if it didnt have a spin brake? Thats what I have gathered from reading your posts. I remeber our Simpson indexed, but it would index more vigourously on lower water levels that full or more with everyday clothes rather than sheets. But the brake on it halted the spin immediately.
Why do you guys hate indexing tubs so much?
BTW Louis, do you have Ariston in the Netherlands? I had myfirst look at there new range this morning and I think they look very nice. The new models have bigger door openings that the previous range which makes a big difference too.
Sorry this is such a long post.
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Post# 1572-6/10/2001-00:34 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: New members
MESSAGE: I wish mr rattan furniture would rack off!!
Actually I shouldnt be so harsh. Having spent the morning in the home mega mart looking at furniture, I just cant wait till I get my own place and fill it with furniture, and most of all appliances!!
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Post# 1573-6/10/2001-01:03 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: RE: New members
MESSAGE: i think i was one of them (ringtail59)...but i like this one better!
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Post# 1574-6/10/2001-01:10 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Link to the '53 Kenmore washer
MESSAGE: That washer is beautiful! What a beauty this will be all restored - super cool find Peter!
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Post# 1575-6/10/2001-01:22 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Flat Rock, NC
MESSAGE: I love shopping those antique stores like those - always something interesting to see. I always talk my self out of things and later wish I'd bought them.
Fun pics - and the window lid Hamiltion is a must for Scott's collection!
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Post# 1576-6/11/2001-06:35 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Shirley Booth not as Hazel)
MESSAGE: Scott two of her best films are "About Mrs. Leslie" and Thornton Wilder's "The Matchmaker," the story upon which "Hello Dolly" was based. Her portrayal of Dolly Levi is very good and the whole movie more genuine than the over the top vehicle made for Streisand, which I do like, but differently. You will be able to see the fist glimmerings of Hazel in About Mrs. Leslie, but she is a landlady, not a maid. Hope you can find the films. Tom
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Post# 1577-6/11/2001-06:37 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Father Knows Best Laundromat)
MESSAGE: Sorry to Scott, Robert, Rich and all for my erroneous information, but I have never seen a FKB with anything but the Bendixes. Tom
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Post# 1578-6/11/2001-06:41 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Paul Peterson)
MESSAGE: Scott, in my opinion too. I think he said part of the reason he got into the work was because of all the hell that Lauren Chapin, who played Cathy, went through. Tom
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Post# 1579-6/11/2001-06:44 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Donna Reed attractions)
MESSAGE: Greg, I will try to find a pic and fax it to you or mail it. There were a couple of brands of the same design. I will have to go through files. Tom
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Post# 1580-6/11/2001-06:47 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Magical Appliances)
MESSAGE: I was crushed when they moved and had those rotten builtin gas appliances and no more Frigidaires in the laundry room. GM pulled out of that and Bewitched and took their appliances with them; at least it seems that way. Tom
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Post# 1581-6/11/2001-06:52 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse Laundromat 4 Jetcone (WH custom imp laundromat)
MESSAGE: Greg, your pic is of a machine a lot older than the one I was remembering, not that either of us has any firm ideal of what he saw. Tom
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Post# 1582-6/11/2001-06:55 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse Laundromat 4 Jetcone (Jay Thank YOU!)
MESSAGE: Jay , if you can send me their phone & address too I can call them and the shipper in Phoenix directly so you don't have to do anymore running around. I have a boot for this machine. I have never seen a 3 belt drive before.!! I love the slant tub its so weird! Thanks for your help!!
Jon
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Post# 1583-6/11/2001-06:58 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD - Kelvinator ('68 was the last)
MESSAGE: Arrrooohhh, the last orbital Kelvinator was produced in '68, then they were built by Norge for two years and Franklin after that.
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Post# 1584-6/11/2001-07:01 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Looked at appliances this morning
MESSAGE: Tub don't index just because they don't have a spin brake, its all in the transmission design. Its only on certain designs that they index, the Beam/Speed Queen machines never had a brake, but the tubs never index. You wont really notice the turn-over impeding with an indexing tub unless the wash load is a full one.
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Post# 1585-6/11/2001-07:03 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New members (Ring-Ring-Ring "
Hello My Name is"
CLICK-DIALTONE)
MESSAGE: We don't have to worry about Mr. Rattan and his furniture showing up at our door step here. Cause if he does, his posts get delete immediately! YAY YAY YAY
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Post# 1586-6/11/2001-07:16 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Donna Reed attractions)
MESSAGE: Was this O'K&M an original design, or use of another existing design? I don't know much of this brand, not a lot of advertising and I've not had a lot of exposure with them either. Thanks for the info - Greg
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Post# 1587-6/11/2001-07:19 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse Laundromat 4 Jetcone (WH custom imp laundromat)
MESSAGE: I have a bunch of service manuals, but not a complete set, of the Westys. This was the only one that I could make out the Custom Imperial on a machine. These slant-front machines certainly did have a lot of style, even if mediocre performance.
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Post# 1588-6/11/2001-07:24 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Looked at appliances this morning
MESSAGE: I've never seen a "pronounced" index in a SQ/Amana machine, possibly a sympathetic index like in Maytags with a full load. The Franklin style index was very pronounced, very nearly a 1/2 turn of the tub with each backstroke of the agitator. That would impeded rollover action with a full load it's especially bad - the ribbed tub just made it worse.
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Post# 1589-6/11/2001-08:39 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Looked at appliances this morning
MESSAGE: For several years, Maytag sold the Norgetag under the Maytag name overseas before reintroducing it America. And we know that the Hotpoint and Whirlpool machines are significantly different overseas than they are here in the States. It could be that Amana is lending its name to a different manufacturer and getting royalties or franchise fees from the deal. So then it's possible that there's a Franklin machine in Austrailia with the Amana name on it. Arrooohh, one pic would probably solve this mystery...
-ph
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Post# 1590-6/11/2001-10:33 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Couldn't stand it any more!!!
MESSAGE: Welcome aboard, Tom from the other Tom. Did you feel like you were the only one interested in appliances? Have trouble being truthful when asked what your interests were? Have you ever had dreams about appliances???? You have reached safe harbor. We have been there and now we are here. Tom
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Post# 1591-6/11/2001-10:36 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: WP/KM BD washers with DAA vs WP/KM DD washers with DAA
MESSAGE: Why does this sound familiar?
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Post# 1592-6/11/2001-10:51 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Pix of the day 741c
MESSAGE: I have one of the low airflow Maytags also, probably 1956, maybe a 541C(?)SD. She runs, but needs the blower replaced. I got a new door seal and thermostat/temp button assembly. The early blowers were aluminum and warped. I have another blower for her, but decided to play with another toy so she is sealed up in the museum now, waiting the kiss of a prince. John has the same style dryer in the water dryer version. TT
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Post# 1593-6/11/2001-11:04 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Bug Fixed)
MESSAGE: Thank you Robert!!! I can read them all now. TT
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Post# 1594-6/11/2001-11:11 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Shirley Booth not as Hazel)
MESSAGE: Thanks Tom, I'll keep my eyes open!
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Post# 1595-6/11/2001-11:15 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Father Knows Best Laundromat)
MESSAGE: That's ok Tom...as I mentioned, at the time I was not all that good at identifying older machines as the oldest thing I had seen at that point was a late 50s RCA Whirlpool, and I don't think I had ever seen a front loader then except in a laundromat. I remember the episode where Kathy was wanting to wash everything in sight, but didn't know until now that the episode revolved around their getting a new machine. Now of course, I'm curious to see some episodes and see if I can spot the Bendix! Did she have the round or square kind?
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Post# 1596-6/11/2001-11:17 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Paul Peterson)
MESSAGE: Yes there are many sad stories surrounding a lot of the tv shows it seems, but that one is particularly sad. I never about Robert Young and all his troubles until after he died.
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Post# 1597-6/11/2001-11:18 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: WP/KM BD washers with DAA vs WP/KM DD washers with DAA
MESSAGE: Probablly because it is almost the same thing I said a few months ago about the same topic on the Yahoo club. But you know it is easier to ask again then it is to go digging in the archives.
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Post# 1598-6/11/2001-11:19 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Couldn't stand it any more!!! (Welcome to the club)
MESSAGE: Tom, the summer I graduated from HS, I worked in the housekeeping dept of a hospital and one day they had a big backlog of laundry and a worker or two out. The laundry did not operate on weekends and Monday through Wednesday was basically shovelling sand against the tide, then Thursday and Friday were keeping up with what came down the chute. So this one day, some of the summer replacements from Housekeeping were detailed in two hour shifts to the laundry. We got to load the big Cascade machine and then be there when it emptied by heaving the tub out and having the stuff fall into the two halves of the extractor basket. This was 68 and the laundry was already slated to be replaced with machines that loaded in the dirty laundry room and emptied in the clean room. I remember one weekend when I worked, the maintenance man was installing a couple of banks of heat lamps in the steam heated ironer so that it could run faster. After our laundry shift we had to go to the shower and scrub down with Phisohex after having changed into scrubs, gloves and maskes to handle all the dirty laundry. The laundry was a very hot place but it was a lot of fun for me. It was near the office where we signed in and out and I always managed to take good long looks at what was going on in there. TT
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Post# 1599-6/11/2001-11:19 ||| hqots (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Couldn't stand it any more!!!
MESSAGE: Sounds just like a TV commercial. What is the name of this treatment program Tom?
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Post# 1600-6/11/2001-12:16 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Couldn't stand it any more!!!
MESSAGE: Charter Assbergers
-ph
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Post# 1601-6/11/2001-13:14 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: The Agenda of the Convention #1
MESSAGE: Here is a tentative agenda for the convention. Everyone is welcome to join the the "crowd" with any or all of the following activities or go off and do other things in the city on your own if you prefer.
This is the first draft, and it might change slightly, but I want to give you guys any info as we come up with it:
Friday Afternoon:
Arrive in Minneapolis during the day, check into hotel.
Friday Evening:
6:00pm – 10:00pm Meet at Uni's for first of two “wash-in’s”. We'll order pizza to enjoy while we’re watching the washers run.
Saturday
8:30am – Gather at Uni's for rolls and coffee.
9:30am sharp – We leave for the estate sales.
3-4:00 – Disperse for a few hours’ rest before the evenings’ activities.
7:00pm – Meet at Uni's to embark for dinner at Murray’s Restaurant in downtown Minneapolis (approximately $30 per person)
9:00pm – 1:00am After dinner, back to Uni's for a late night wash-in.
Sunday
10:00am – Check out of hotel if leaving on Sunday;
11:00am – Meet at the 'Rain Forest Café' at Mall of America, followed by a visit to terrorize the Sales People in the Appliance section at Sears at the mall. The mall is located relatively close the airport for those having afternoon flights out.
4:00-? – Open house at Scott’s apartment in south Minneapolis. Anyone staying until Monday or beyond is welcome to come visit, see my 60 Frigidaire and enjoy my vacuum and small appliance collections. It would be helpful to know an approximate number of people I might expect to visit during the course of the evening.
Monday
11am - For those remaining on Monday, we can take a tour of Downtown Minneapolis and the Skyway system.
Weather:
For those wondering in August in the Twin Cities the average daily high temp is 84 (29C) and the average low is 63 (17C).
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Post# 1602-6/11/2001-13:58 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Link to the '53 Kenmore washer
MESSAGE: The Kenmore is a beauty Peter, the top looks really nice. And thank you for explaining subtop. Besides that my fantasy was going a little wild I didn't understand yet what it is in a washer, but now I know.
Luigi
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Post# 1603-6/11/2001-14:07 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Flat Rock, NC (one missing picture)
MESSAGE: Steve,
The Flat Rock pictures are really great. The Coffeemaster looks really great. Quite a catch. I was only missing one picture, of the hitchhiker!
Louis
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Post# 1604-6/11/2001-14:20 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Looked at appliances this morning
MESSAGE: Hi Arrrooohhh,
Yes we have Ariston appliances overhere in the Netherlands, although you don't seem them too often. Ariston is a cheap Italian brand that invests in design but not in quality. The stoves they make look nice, I have to admit that. The washers though are bad news.
Louis
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Post# 1605-6/11/2001-14:32 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse Laundromat 4 Jetcone ("
Mediocre Performance?"
)
MESSAGE: Watch it mister! :)
Todd
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Post# 1606-6/11/2001-14:43 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: The Agenda of the Convention #1
MESSAGE: Wonderful agenda Robert, I'm really looking forward to this. Ofcourse I will be attending the visit to her Majesty's dwellings, how could I not do that on a state tour. Louis
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Post# 1607-6/11/2001-15:23 ||| RobGwisdala (Troy Ohio 45373)
SUBJECT: RE: WP/KM BD washers with DAA vs WP/KM DD washers with DAA (I have never asked this question before.)
MESSAGE: Hi Tom Turbomatic and Jason,
I have never asked this question before in here.
I also have never asked this question before on the appliance club on Yahoo.
Rob
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Post# 1608-6/11/2001-15:28 ||| RobGwisdala (Troy Ohio 45373)
SUBJECT: RE: WP/KM DD washers with DAA vs Amana Perfect Balance washers (I have never asked this question before either.)
MESSAGE: Hello Everyone.
I have never asked this question before in here.
I also have never asked this question before in the appliance club on Yahoo.
Rob
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Post# 1609-6/11/2001-16:10 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Couldn't stand it any more!!!
MESSAGE: Well said TT - welcome Tom!
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Post# 1610-6/11/2001-16:15 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Couldn't stand it any more!!! (Phisohex)
MESSAGE: Wasn't Phisohex taken off the market in later years? I remember my mother using it and being distraught when it was gone, later replaced by Phisoderm but not the same.
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Post# 1611-6/11/2001-16:22 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse Laundromat 4 Jetcone
MESSAGE: Just summarizing CU....Mine isn't up and running yet!
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Post# 1612-6/11/2001-16:26 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: WP/KM BD washers with DAA vs WP/KM DD washers with DAA (I have never asked this question before.)
MESSAGE: I know you didn't Rob, but if I remember correctly (mentalpause has kicked in today and I can't find the pause button to restart myself) someone else asked a very similar question and my answer was just about the same, if not the same as the answer to your question.
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Post# 1613-6/11/2001-18:44 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: More Pictures (YAY)
MESSAGE: As promised, some pictures of the Lady Kenmore Electric dryer 'Solid State' sensor.
My 'hitchikers' or as my folder is labeled:"Pick of the Litter!" WP & Kenmore dryers [ho-hum] and the Speed Queen washer.
Steve 1-18
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/svb14_1953/lst?.dir=/Pick+of+the+Litter+June+11+2001&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/svb14_1953/lst%3f%26.dir=/Pick%2bof%2bthe%2bLitter%2bJune%2b11%2b2001%26.src=ph%26.view=t&.view=t
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Post# 1614-6/11/2001-19:22 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: More Pictures (YAY)
MESSAGE: Great pictures - yours is one of the earlier 80's Speed Queen with the perf. baskets. It's in nice shape - have you run it with water & clothes yet? This is the same design as the Amana you used to have - does your mother still have that one? The LK is very nice too - is that going to be part of the permanent collection?
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Post# 1615-6/11/2001-19:48 ||| Jetcirclefill (Pensacola, Fl)
SUBJECT: RE: Couldn't stand it any more!!!
MESSAGE: Thanks TT,
To answer your guestions;Yes,Yes and Yes.
Tom
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Post# 1616-6/11/2001-19:57 ||| Jetcirclefill (Pensacola, Fl)
SUBJECT: RE: Couldn't stand it any more!!!
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg,
Yes, Phisohex went by the wayside just like GM Frigidaire
Bendix, Blackstone, Easy, Apex etc. It's up to us to see that they live on.
Tom
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Post# 1617-6/11/2001-20:10 ||| Jetcirclefill (Pensacola, Fl)
SUBJECT: spinandtumble
MESSAGE: Have ya'll checked out spinandtumble.com? Good loose change and spin sounds. Tells you how to install and use your Electrolux/Frigidaire FL
Tom
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Post# 1618-6/11/2001-21:07 ||| Jetcirclefill (Pensacola, Fl)
SUBJECT: spinand tumble
MESSAGE: I didn't know I could do this! In this day and age what's next? Maybe a washer you can load and walk away from. OH....I hope NOT.
Tom
LINK: http://www.spinandtumble.com
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Post# 1619-6/11/2001-21:53 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: More Pictures (YAY)
MESSAGE: Thanks Steve.
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Post# 1620-6/11/2001-22:23 ||| steved (Albany NY)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (one more comment about the 64 Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Tom, do you remember that early on in Bewitched, they put white tape over the Frigidaire nameplate on the Flair, fridge ans dishwasher? I guess GM was not interested in advertising the Frigidaire name. Steved
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Post# 1621-6/12/2001-04:31 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT: RE: Pix of the day 741c
MESSAGE: Tom it may have been a 541c. I'm just glad someone else has seen one now I dont feel like i'm crazy for thinking there was a difference lol.
SD
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Post# 1622-6/12/2001-05:15 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: More Pictures (YAY)
MESSAGE: Greg,
The SQ seems water-tight. Removed the front panel last night and filled it up. Agitated it and spun out the water. Will hook it up and use it as a main washer for a few weeks. If I can't find any problems, it will go on the market.
This is very similiar to the Amana my mom has. This one has a recirculating pump that filters the water. Pretty neat filtering system, that spins the lint out and over the top. Will have to was some bath rugs to see how efficient the filtering system is.
Steve 1-18
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Post# 1623-6/12/2001-07:09 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: More Pictures (YAY)
MESSAGE: I found it interesting that Amana and SQ discontinued (probably for profit margin mostly) the recirculating filter ring. In later models, the ring was still there, but no recirc. I wonder how many people thought (if they cared) they were getting a filter system, I know at least one that insists there it's still there.
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Post# 1624-6/12/2001-07:10 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: More Pictures (YAY) (SQ C-Panel)
MESSAGE: Hi Steve, nice pix of the control panel. I always liked those BIG dial SQ's. BUt that agitator looks like it has razor sharp edges on the fins--does it shred or dice?
JEt
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Post# 1625-6/12/2001-07:35 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: Rollermatic service manual on Ebay
MESSAGE: Although the caption says 1976, the drawing on the front is a WCI65 or WCI66.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1438060293
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Post# 1626-6/12/2001-08:15 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Rollermatic service manual on Ebay
MESSAGE: This is a great manual - lots of good info in here for all the rollermatic machines. All the old Frigidaire manuals are out of print now, of course and I had to search the entire country for the unimatic/pulsamatic manual, which is also very good.
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Post# 1627-6/12/2001-08:28 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: More Pictures (YAY) (Speed Queen)
MESSAGE: I like this SQ it's real cool - I like this design a lot better than the solid tub models they made.
Best of Luck with it.
Peter
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Post# 1628-6/12/2001-08:29 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Looked at appliances this morning
MESSAGE: Arrroooohhhh, don't apologize for long posts. It was not that long compared to some and was interesting. Indexing tubs can be a pain when it is just the result of cheap manufacturing. In those cases, it impedes the turnover of the wash load because there is no resistance to the agitator's stroke in one direction and you need the tub staying in one position holding the clothes stationary against the agitation to translate the sideways water motion into the currents that make the load turn over. Either the machine you watched had a strong enough action designed for the tub or it was a light load. Only the up and down action of the Frigidaire produced the roll over currents directly. Back and forth agitation depends on there being resistance to the water currents. The pieces of crap that we hate just keep the tub twirling in one direction with ineffective agitation that does not do much to turn over the load. Sorry this was so long. TT
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Post# 1629-6/12/2001-08:32 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD - Kelvinator ('68 was the last)
MESSAGE: Robert, didn't this have something to do with American Motors selling off the Kelvinator Appliance line? TT
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Post# 1630-6/12/2001-08:36 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Looked at appliances this morning
MESSAGE: You sure notice turnover being impeded in those little plastic tub skinni minni things. The tub is so small it's hard to fit anything in without overloading it and then it just takes off in circles. TT
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Post# 1631-6/12/2001-08:49 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Donna Reed attractions)
MESSAGE: Greg, there was a wringer washer company called One Minute and a company called Automatic Washer Co. I will have to check the files to see who had this thing first. I don't think much designing went into it. It was nothing more than a big dryer that would fill with water, hold water and drain it out. Because it was gas fired, OK&M marketed it under their name, sorta like the OK&M and Caloric clothes dryers, sold only at the gas company. The Atlanta Gas Light Co. had big windows on the ground floor of their old building on Peachtree St. downtown and for a while in the late 50s or early 60s, in the left window, there was a Caloric dryer tumbling 24/7. Whoever made this dryer used old technology because it had a toggle switch on the control panel that you flipped to light the pilot. After the timer ran out and shut off the dryer, or at the end of the day's use, you had to flip the switch to OFF to turn off the pilot. TT
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Post# 1632-6/12/2001-08:53 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Looked at appliances this morning
MESSAGE: Greg, my souped up Maytag shows some indexing, but the agitator action is so strong now that nothing interferes with the strong roll over. I have tried holding the tub still and there is not much difference. TT
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Post# 1633-6/12/2001-08:54 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (Father Knows Best Laundromat)
MESSAGE: Scott, they were like Robert's dryer with the controls on the front. TT
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Post# 1634-6/12/2001-08:56 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: More Pictures (YAY) (Speed Queen)
MESSAGE: Sorry Pete, but I must disagree with you. This version of the SQ was a big step down from their solid basket days. It was made with much cheaper materials and the turnover is not like it was with the older machines. Spin speed was lowered on the coin-ops of this version too, compared to the solid basket machines.
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Post# 1635-6/12/2001-08:58 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD - Kelvinator ('68 was the last)
MESSAGE: You're Right Tom, I think the Kevinator name was sold to WCI in one of their first name acquisitions. I know WCI owned the Hamilton name by the early 70's.
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Post# 1636-6/12/2001-09:02 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: More Pictures (YAY) (Speed Queen)
MESSAGE: Robert - At least they got rid of that horrible solinoid noise
They should have used a roto swirl adj or dual action
Actually today Amana is the only one left that doesn't have the
dual action adj
Peter
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Post# 1637-6/12/2001-09:30 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Rollermatic service manual on Ebay (I just got this)
MESSAGE: I just got this manual from a previous auction. I covers both the DD and the BD Rollermatics, along with the agi-tub. The agi-tub mechanism is really interesting, and might make a great alternative to an oil-filled transmission.
-ph
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Post# 1638-6/12/2001-10:12 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: More Pictures (YAY) (Scary Solenoid Sounds)
MESSAGE: They stopped using solenoids Peter, long before they went to the perforated tub. Probably about 7 or 8 years before. Most of the solid-basket Speed Queens from the 70's pause before they spin, the motor reverses, so there was no scary sounds!
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Post# 1639-6/12/2001-10:30 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: WP/KM BD washers with DAA vs WP/KM DD washers with DAA
MESSAGE: But asking the question again, like weren't the answers good enough the first time, or was the whole discussion needed to get off again, like belt drive on the up stroke and direct drive on the down stroke until the time-delay dispenser releases. TT
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Post# 1640-6/12/2001-10:34 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: WP/KM BD washers with DAA vs WP/KM DD washers with DAA
MESSAGE: Tom your too funny!!!
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Post# 1641-6/12/2001-10:37 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Couldn't stand it any more!!!
MESSAGE: Well Jason, if in addition to all of that you poop out at parties, we recommend VITA-MEATA-VEGIMIN as part of the cure. But having friends you can discuss your most important interests with is the best therapy of all, along with adequate space and utilities like supply lines, drain lines and sufficient electrical circuits. TT
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Post# 1642-6/12/2001-10:43 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: The Agenda of the Convention #1
MESSAGE: Thanks, Robert and Scott for putting this all together. One question. I had to print the schedule by print screen because if I click on the print icon, it just prints the roster of the 100 messages I am reading. What am I doing wrong, with the printing, not my life in general? Thanks, Tom
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Post# 1643-6/12/2001-10:46 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: The Agenda of the Convention #1
MESSAGE: Tom, you need to click on the bottom frame containing the posting and then click on print. It's all because of the "frame". I've know this for so long, it was automatic for me the first time I had to print the info to call the hotel. Just click somewhere in the midst of the frame you want to print.
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Post# 1644-6/12/2001-10:47 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: The Agenda of the Convention #1
MESSAGE: Try clicking on the white area that has the message and then click print. That should work. At least it does with IE.
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Post# 1645-6/12/2001-10:51 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Couldn't stand it any more!!! (Phisohex)
MESSAGE: Yes, Greg, Hexachlorophene, the active ingredient was found to be absorbed into babies' skin so instead of telling people not to wash their kids in Phisohex, they withdrew the stuff from the market and products containing Hexachlorophene were available only by prescription or something. This is when hospital infections like staphylococcus started to soar. TT
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Post# 1646-6/12/2001-11:02 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (one more comment about the 64 Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Steve, I guess not because I knew what they were at first glance. That's like the GE refrigerator on Golden Girls with something covering the GE emblem. I just figured those good liberals behind the program did not want to give any recognition to GE. Tom
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Post# 1647-6/12/2001-11:07 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Pix of the day 741c
MESSAGE: SD, that was one of the color checked dryers in CU's report in 56, I think, which meant that it was among the best of the best. When I got it I was hoping for something that left clothes as soft as a Hamilton, but the path of the air through it was pretty direct so it did not operate like the Hamilton. Compared to the Halo of Heat dryers though, the drum was huge. TT
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Post# 1648-6/12/2001-11:15 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: More Pictures (YAY)
MESSAGE: One of the problems with that kind of filter like with the HP machines before it is that often during the drain, while the water at first cleans the lint out of the filter, the possible backwashing of the water over the top of the tub and back onto the clothes, left more noticible lint that if you did not have a filter at all. When the tub was spinning, the angle of the waterflying over the top usually missed the filter in the ones I have seen. Of course with lower water levels, the water often did not come over the tub top so then the filter worked. In the early GE with that filter ring, you were dealing with a solid tub getting rid of water all at once, not the gradual drain of a perforated tub within an outer tub. TT
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Post# 1649-6/12/2001-11:18 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The Agenda of the Convention #1 (He're how to do it)
MESSAGE: Hi Tom:
Think of Applianceville as three seperate pages. Page #1 is the blue header that shows up on top. Page #2 is the pink index and that is the pink screen in the middle. Page #3 is the White message reading page. When you press your print button, Netscrape is going to print the current page. The current page is always the LAST PAGE THAT YOU CLICKED ON. So if you want to print the white page, simply click in that page first (anywhere on the white page) and then press your print button!
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Post# 1650-6/12/2001-11:21 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: The Agenda of the Convention #1
MESSAGE: Bob, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you. This is very different from the yahoo procedure. Many thanks for your help. TT
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Post# 1651-6/12/2001-11:22 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: The Agenda of the Convention #1
MESSAGE: Many thanks to Your Majesty for the help. It does work. TT
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Post# 1652-6/12/2001-11:25 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: The Agenda of the Convention #1 (He're how to do it)
MESSAGE: Thank you Robert. I had no Idaho, as my brother would say, about the structure of the page. I followed Bob's instructions and guess I know how to print the messages now. TT
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Post# 1653-6/12/2001-11:29 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: More Pictures (YAY)
MESSAGE: Steve, I like your SQ hitchhiker. Does the Amana Flex vane agitator fit in this washer? Louis
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Post# 1654-6/12/2001-11:47 ||| rapidry1000 (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (O'keefe and Merritt )
MESSAGE: Does anyone remember the Rheem gas clothes dryer. They are the people who manufacture gas water heaters and central heating units now. Back in the 50's, they were the manufacturers of the Wedgewood gas ranges. Was this gas clothes dryer also a gas company product?
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Post# 1655-6/12/2001-12:06 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: I really need help now ...Frigidaire
MESSAGE: my Frigidaire Custom Delux WCDAL or WCDAPL had both model numbers on the electrical Schematic also the largest numbers were 7534690
I seem to have a gasket broken under the agitator water dumps into the outer tub while filling. Since I am not mechanically inclined I managed to pop the top but that is far as I got do I need to remove the agitator for this and could someone explain or send an assembly diagram
Thanks so much guys this board has been fun
Philippe
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Post# 1656-6/12/2001-12:53 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: I really need help now ...Frigidaire (Ripped Water Bellows)
MESSAGE: Hi Philippe, it sounds you have a ripped water bellows underneath the agitator. You don't need to pop the top assembly off to replace this. The part I think is still available and you do need to remove the agitator, give it a try (removing the agitator, that is) and let us know how you make out. I have the part number at home. I can show you in pictures how to remove the agitator and replace the thing if necessary. It might be quite a job though if the pulsator hold down nut is rusted to the agitator shaft. Sometimes they are and other times it comes out, no problem. The 7534690 number is simply the part number of the schematic sheet.
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Post# 1657-6/12/2001-13:04 ||| jaxcubb (Woodstock, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: I really need help now ...Frigidaire (Ripped Water Bellows)
MESSAGE: I had to replace the water bellows on my 1-18 too, and it's not hard. Just a matter of removing the agitator, but then I replaced the agitator twice, all because the bed of nails filter fell into the machine while it was agitating :-)
Mike
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Post# 1658-6/12/2001-15:00 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (O'keefe and Merritt )
MESSAGE: Hi, I remember seeing them in vintage magazine ads, not sure of where they were sold or who made them though. Scott
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Post# 1659-6/12/2001-15:27 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: New appliance graveyard photos
MESSAGE: hey guys. went to the graveyard with my new digital cam today and took some interesting photos. there's also some shots of my new house in another album too. to those who may be interested in THE FIRST WHIRLPOOL AUTOMATIC WASHER (according to the lady at the shop), you will find pics of it. it was pretty cool, you push a button on the front of the cabinet and the lid pops open! she took me into the secret back room and showed me.....and it's for sale...and they have the original documentation for it...and it works!
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/ringtail59/lst?&.dir=/&.src=ph&.view=t
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Post# 1660-6/12/2001-15:46 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos
MESSAGE: Thanks for the wonderful picts Jay!!!!! Boy could I spend a fortune in that place.....and then on the new building to put everyting. Jay, you feel like going parts hunting for me? LOL
Jason
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Post# 1661-6/12/2001-15:49 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos
MESSAGE: And the house is just gorgeous!!!
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Post# 1662-6/12/2001-15:57 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos (Appliance Photos )
MESSAGE: What a real nice collection
I wonder what it would take to bring them all back to life
Peter
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Post# 1663-6/12/2001-15:58 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos
MESSAGE: Thank you for those great pictures! Is this graveyard near the freeway by any chance? When I was in Phoenix in March, we drove by a large "graveyard" that appeared to have some interesting things. Hope we can hook up next time I visit! Scott :)
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Post# 1664-6/12/2001-16:03 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos
MESSAGE: Jay, cool pictures!! It sure would be fun walking between all those appliances. Nice house too. Cool having your own swimming pool. I bet you have space in your new house for a few more appliances? Louis
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Post# 1665-6/12/2001-16:11 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos
MESSAGE: not nearly enough space for this new hobby..i guess i could fill in the pool and build a garage! jay
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Post# 1666-6/12/2001-16:12 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos
MESSAGE: it's not near a freeway but it's only about 10 mins away from my new house. i think i'll be visiting them often. and i'll provide guided tours to visitors..
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Post# 1667-6/12/2001-16:13 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos
MESSAGE: thanks! i love it too!
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Post# 1668-6/12/2001-16:46 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos (WOW-shades of South Dakota)
MESSAGE: Oh My Goodness Pumper. Looks like you found a gold mine. First of all there are lots of Frigidaire's there for you in case you need parts, YAY. That Pink GE washer is fabulous, its the 1960 model and the VERY LAST SOLID BASKET GE WASHER ever made!
That Whirlpool is a 1952 Model, its not the very first model, its the second model. The very first was made in '48. That's the machine I'm currently restoring!
Congrats on the New Camera, now I get to look at the new house pictures! Thanks for the pictures, we're all looking forward to more!
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Post# 1669-6/12/2001-17:17 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos (Questions . . . )
MESSAGE: On the pink GE, what's the gizmo on the front right of the cabinet?
The Kenmore in pic #18 is really wild. I vaguely recall seeing that console design once before.
The Kenmore in pic #19 looks similar to the alphabet machine my aunt had -- hers had variable water level and cold temp levers at the bottom edge of the console, and the knob to the right of the timer was a speed control.
The Hotpoint Silhouette is great. Would like to see a better shot of the controls.
In pic #23 -- That appears to be a Kenmore alphabet dryer in the foreground, also very similar to one my aunt had. I would LOVE to see some more detailed pics of the other Whirlpool, with the buttons across the top of the console -- if I am not mistaken, the TOL mate to our budget 1962 Whirlpool was similar to that.
Heck, I'd LOVE to see pics of every machine in that graveyard!
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Post# 1670-6/12/2001-18:17 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos (Questions . . . )
MESSAGE: the gizmo on the front of the pink GE is a bleach dispenser. i'm sure i'll be going back for lots more photos and to check on new arrivals.
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Post# 1671-6/12/2001-19:03 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos
MESSAGE: Hi Jay
Thanks for posting those cool pictures, I really enjoyed looking at them. Your house is great!
Rich
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Post# 1672-6/12/2001-19:05 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos
MESSAGE: Hey Jay
I'll show up for your next guided tour of the graveyard! :-)
Rich
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Post# 1673-6/12/2001-19:10 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Looked at appliances this morning
MESSAGE: Me too - holding the tub makes no difference. I love that souped up Maytag, still rather boring and I wish the rinse agitation was longer (something I never gave any thought to, until joining this club) but it's better with the faster agitation.
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Post# 1674-6/12/2001-19:12 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: More Pictures (YAY) (Speed Queen)
MESSAGE: Not for long - if Maytag owns them now, they'll probably soon look just like the Norgetags we see in the lower Performa lines.
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Post# 1675-6/12/2001-19:17 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Rollermatic service manual on Ebay (I just got this)
MESSAGE: Robert and I saw one of these (filled with old parts) in Rockford. I would like to have one of these washers some day (the stand-alone washer, not the Skinny Mini) to play with. I have some of the parts for the syncro-swing mechanism. Looks like I would have to tape some fins on that swizzle stick looking agitator to make some real turn over - MacGuyver to the rescue!!
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Post# 1676-6/12/2001-19:24 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: More Pictures (YAY)
MESSAGE: In playing with Hotpoint machines with the filter ring, I noticed lint would get sloshed over the top and back into the basket. You are right about the draining being too slow to effectively clean the filter, but the spray rinse after the wash flushed it out, after the rinse though, there was no spray rinse. I had a service guy tell me once when looking for a GE filter pan that lint filters were totally useless and only filtered about 5% of the lint from the water anyway. I prefer the overflow wash and rinse of solid basket machines to most filters anyway.
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Post# 1677-6/12/2001-19:32 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos
MESSAGE: What a goldmine!! How fun to have that in your "back yard!" Love the pics of the house too - very nice!
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Post# 1678-6/12/2001-20:18 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos
MESSAGE: You must go back and cover all those washers. The sun is going to ruin them before I can get out there! Ha Ha!
Noticed a few matching dryers to some of the collector's washers, too.
Are you going to get a 1-18 dryer to go with your washer? I thought I saw at least one out there.
Lot's of luck with youre 1-18.
Steve 1-18
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Post# 1679-6/12/2001-20:25 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: SQ was a bust
MESSAGE: I did a load of towels (medium size) and until I set the water to the large level, they just swished back and forth. PITIFUL. I also discovered a leak. Slow but there for sure. Water was accumulating on the top of the transmission and it spun out during the spin. The filtering system worked quite well. There was some accumulation of lint that spun out during the spin phase.
I plan on salvaging a few parts to take to Mom and Dad's in case they need them for their Amana. I'd like to swap the pump if I could to give the Amana the filtering action.
Steve 1-18
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Post# 1680-6/12/2001-21:00 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos
MESSAGE: i know, i hate the thought of them baking out there in the sun. i'm going to stick with the kenmore dryer that comes with the house for now.
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Post# 1681-6/12/2001-21:24 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos (Jay Nice Hacienda!!)
MESSAGE: WOw I love the oven/micro combo mounted so high! And your pool is wonderful! Lets have the next convention in Phoenix! And tour the graveyard as well! What say guys & gals??
jon
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Post# 1682-6/12/2001-21:29 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos (Jay Nice Hacienda!!)
MESSAGE: ...don't forget to bring an appliance as a house-warming gift!
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Post# 1683-6/12/2001-21:31 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos (Jay Nice Hacienda!!)
MESSAGE: WOuld a Sunbeam Coffeemaster do?
jon
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Post# 1684-6/12/2001-21:42 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos (Jay Nice Hacienda!!)
MESSAGE: i was thinking more like a turquoise frigidaire control tower washer and dryer set, but i'd love the sunbeam!
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Post# 1685-6/12/2001-22:16 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos
MESSAGE: Nice pics, Jay. I saw a whole lot of cool appliances out there in Phoenix. Similar to what Uni has seen out there in South Dakota last year. It looks like I have seen a fare share of laundromat appliances out there as well. Note the GE 2 Speed Commercial Washer that I have saw in one of your photos. That is the EXACT machine that is STILL in use at the laundromat that is around the corner from my place. I also saw a 1960 GE Pink Washer. That was also a cool washer. I think that was back when GE at least knew how to build them. Constrast that with the 1990's GE that I also saw in your photo album. It's a shame in how the GE's of old held up as long as they have and then to see something like a MUCH NEWER 1990's GE Washer showing up in an appliance graveyard well before its time. I also love that 1952 Whirlpool Washer that was pictured in the far end. The one with the lid in which you have to push a button in order for it to open. VERY COOL and VERY RADICAL. And you say this machine STILL WORKS?!?!?!?! I also loved looking at that Whirlpool Washer that has the push-buttons right on top of the control panel. What vintage was that washer?? 1960's??? Also loved that 1968 Kenmore Washer that I have saw. That machine is one of the dream machines I would like to have in my collection, if I would ever start one. I see you found you a new toy also. That 1970's Frigidaire 1-18 Windowed Washer. I see that's going to be your "new" baby. Does that washer need restoring?? If so, I think that Greg would love to lend you a hand. I believe he has about two of them. And one more thing, are you going to seek out a matching dryer to go with your "new" Frigidaire Washer. In a graveyard THAT big, there has to be plenty of those out there.
Thanks again for the photos, and enjoy your new camera.
Regards....
--Charles--
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Post# 1686-6/12/2001-22:19 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos
MESSAGE: And by the way, I love the house too. And the fact that you have a swimming pool in your backyard?? Oh man, I hate you. I'm jealous (LOL).
Again, best regards.
--Charles--
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Post# 1687-6/12/2001-22:36 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos
MESSAGE: thankfully some launderamas never modernize. i was told the push-button whirlpool was '60, and the '52 is so cool. it has been refurbished by them but they said the pump may be frozen as it's been sitting for awhile. they were all covered in dust, but at least they're not out in the sun like the others. sounds like you need to make a trip out here yourself to get your collection started. my new "baby" has been refurbished so hopefully i'll get a few loads out of it. there are tons of frigidaire washers/dryers there but i'm settling for the 1-18 washer for now. i'm glad you enjoyed the photos so much! jay
Thanks again for the photos, and enjoy your new camera.
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Post# 1688-6/12/2001-22:37 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos
MESSAGE: WOW! What a great place to shop! I wish they had something like that here in Brooklyn. Next time you go back there ask the lady who told you that was the first "Whirlpool Washer" How much would it cost to ship it to "Brooklyn"! (LOL) I've never seen a graveyard before. Thanks!
Robert
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Post# 1689-6/12/2001-22:38 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos
MESSAGE: don't laugh, you'd be surprised at how many people want to do just that!
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Post# 1690-6/12/2001-22:41 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos
MESSAGE: and it turns out it's the 2nd automatic WP made in '52. orig was in '48 according to those in the know. i'm sure every city has at least 1 graveyard, shouldn't be too hard to find one in brooklyn. maybe there's one on toidy toid and toid. i'm kidding, i love NY!
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Post# 1691-6/12/2001-22:52 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos
MESSAGE: No! nothing like that here! I've lived here all my life and no washing machine graveyards. I'm a major whirlpool fan! I have a few machines; my oldest automatic washer is a RCA Whirlpool about 1959/60. I'd like to get another one 1950's or so. Anyway; the pictures are great!
"Brooklyn Robert"
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Post# 1692-6/12/2001-23:00 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos
MESSAGE: JAY;
One other thing, If you "LOVE NY", why don't you take a ride here and bring the Whirlpool with you! (LOL) Have a great night!
"Brooklyn Robert"
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Post# 1693-6/12/2001-23:10 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos
MESSAGE: Great pics Jay. Thanks. Your house is very cool, especially with that nice pool. I can't believe all the machines in that yard. Amazing!
Todd
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Post# 1694-6/12/2001-00:27 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT: This weeks project
MESSAGE: It was supposed to rain all this week meaning I can't paint any appliances. So I figured I would do some work in the house. More picts to come when it's all done.
LINK: http://web.tampabay.rr.com/jasonspages/floor.html
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Post# 1695-6/12/2001-01:30 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: This weeks project
MESSAGE: Nice job on the tile! Boy did the removal photos bring back some memories. Gawd, is there anything worse? Maybe roofing material? Your cabinets are very cool looking. I like the plain fronts with chrome hinges and handles. Are they metal? That will look great when done. Beautiful Chow too. My next door neighbor has an all black one. Very smart dogs.
Todd
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Post# 1696-6/13/2001-03:14 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Manual posted to enjoy
MESSAGE: Brooklyn Robert sent me this wonderful manual to scan that I know everyone will enjoy!
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/happyhotpoint/lst?&.dir=/Thor+Automagic+Manual&.src=ph&.begin=9999&.view=t&.order=&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/happyhotpoint/lst%3f%26.dir=/Thor%2bAutomagic%2bManual%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 1697-6/13/2001-03:18 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: This weeks project
MESSAGE: Hi Sweetie, things are moving right along! Should be very nice when all done!
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Post# 1698-6/13/2001-06:21 ||| Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD--1964 Frigidaire (O'keefe and Merritt )
MESSAGE: Scott, I remember them from ads and the gas company. They were more or less an industry brand, not really sold in the more general marketplace.
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Post# 1699-6/13/2001-06:50 ||| Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos
MESSAGE: Jay, thanks for the beautiful pics. An appliance graveyard with palm trees is my idea of nice. Loved your house and yard, more palms!! Thanks for sharing. Tom
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Post# 1700-6/13/2001-06:52 ||| Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos
MESSAGE: Louis, in his climate he could have them under the awning over the patio, poolside. There goes the neighborhood. Tom
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Post# 1701-6/13/2001-06:53 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: so much fun this morning
MESSAGE: the Links are great thanks for the fun pics and congrats on the new house.
Hqots I can sympathise with the tile thing had to do that with a inlaid lanolium floor after hurricane HUgo
and Scott the thor mauel is great reading
thanks you guys for your fun and help
Philippe
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Post# 1702-6/13/2001-06:58 ||| Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos (Questions . . . )
MESSAGE: The gizmo on the front of the GE is the bleach storage dispenser. It would hold a jug of bleach. There was a pump tab on the left of the tilt out chute where you poured the bleach. You would push the tab down to pump bleach from the reservoir. A little red ball floated in the column to show how much bleach you had pumped out to add to the load. The super rare thing about this one is that it has not all rusted out. GE used to sell a plastic patch to cover the whole area once the dispenser was removed because many of them rusted out. Tom
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Post# 1703-6/13/2001-06:58 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: This weeks project (Starting in the Middle?)
MESSAGE: That's a big project Jason. I have all next week off to do the same thing, except I'm putting the tiles down on the basement floor. You know what that means, time to move the washers.
By the way, my instructions also say to start in the middle but why is this? Wouldn't you want to start at a wall to make sure your placing the tiles flush and even with the walls?
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Post# 1704-6/13/2001-07:01 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: This weeks project (starting in the middle)
MESSAGE: the reason you start in the middle is so that you have balance in the room and you never asume your room is square. things can be hidden along the wall better.
still need help with boot on washer but real proud of what I have done so far LOL
Philippe
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Post# 1705-6/13/2001-07:06 ||| Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Rollermatic service manual on Ebay (I just got this)
MESSAGE: Oh, be still my heart! Could MacGuyver really work on appliances, also? Now if only Simon and Simon did too.
The agitub did not perform all that well. Even someone who did not really care about laundry said that they had to reset it for an extra rinse. Tom
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Post# 1706-6/13/2001-07:06 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire Water Bellows
MESSAGE: Phillipe, the part number you need is 5433576 (WCI might have it listed as 5305433576. You should be able to find that locally. We're you able to get out the agitator cones and pulsator.
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Post# 1707-6/13/2001-07:10 ||| Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos
MESSAGE: Jay, good idea to stick with the KM dryer. The 1-18 dryers had horrible repair records and generally had the shakes or shivers when running along with assorted annoying noises. Tom
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Post# 1708-6/13/2001-07:19 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos
MESSAGE: There are times a huge KM or Maytag dryer would be very nice paired with the 1-18 washer. Having only room for one of each, your choices are wise!
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Post# 1709-6/13/2001-07:19 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Water Bellows (got them out last night)
MESSAGE: going searching this morning in Charleston for the parts Thanks so much I have not removed the boot yet still not sure of how to get it off so will wait till I see what the new one looks like
I can't wait to get my baby back running again
Thanks
you guys are great
Philippe
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Post# 1710-6/13/2001-07:23 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Rollermatic service manual on Ebay (I just got this)
MESSAGE: A friend of my grandmothers bought a set of these to replace her Easy spinner and GE dryer. She did only a couple loads a week, but had to bring her rugs and large items to my grandmother's Maytag. I never was around when she washed, so never got to see the thing running.
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Post# 1711-6/13/2001-07:24 ||| Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos
MESSAGE: Charles, precious few of the solid tub GEs still exist. They were very fragile machines because the top of the tranny corroded badly under the agitator. Many of the very few I have found have needed a new tranny to make them work and guess what? There aren't any. That machine also did not have really vigorous agitation and was generally not rated very highly for cleaning by CU.
In the last few years of production, the V 12 through V 18 machine really slipped in quality. Nothing seemed tight in the suspension and they moved around a lot with even slight unbalances and were very noisy. Maybe the guage of metal got lighter, but the later ones were no match for the ones made in the mid 60s to mid 70s. Tom
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Post# 1712-6/13/2001-07:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Water Bellows (got them out last night)
MESSAGE: When you have the part, several of us have the manual with instructions and pics to help get it installed. There should be some of these bellows around, they were very common parts and I've seen lots of them in shops.
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Post# 1713-6/13/2001-07:43 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Manual posted to enjoy
MESSAGE: Thanks guys - this is very interesting. Would love to find one of these to play with, but my toybox is already overflowing already - anyone want an early 60's Westinghouse dishdrawer?
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Post# 1714-6/13/2001-07:49 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Water Bellows (But)
MESSAGE: Did you get the agitator removed, that's the real challenge?
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Post# 1715-6/13/2001-07:54 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Water Bellows (but ... )
MESSAGE: Yes I did with an machine mechanic that had all the right tools
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Post# 1716-6/13/2001-07:55 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: Manual posted to enjoy (OH god Yes I would love to have the Westy dish )
MESSAGE: Ywes I would love to have the dishwasher ... Its one of my fantasies to get one like this give me the gory details like price and possibly shipping cost if you have any Idea
Thanks
Philippe
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Post# 1717-6/13/2001-08:13 ||| Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Manual posted to enjoy
MESSAGE: Fascinatin' to see the operating instructions. Man, they sure don't want much spinning between washing and rinsing. And such short dishwashing times! I wonder why they did not suggest a second wash for pots and pans or greasy loads? I just remember the thing kinda faintly jiggling while the ladies took things our and dried them with towels. Maybe it was in dry. I wanna see one of these work. I wanna lift the lid in spin and have the cover off with the thing set to wash (dishes) with no water to see what it does.
Thanks to both of you for this wonderful presentation. Tom
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Post# 1718-6/13/2001-08:17 ||| Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: This weeks project (Starting in the Middle?)
MESSAGE: Robert, the middle of the room is what you see, not down next to the walls. You line up the stuff so that the middle is on square or else you have to use throw rugs to help hide the outta squareness of it all, cause with every tile the lack of symetry grows. Walls are almost never straight so you don't go by them. Furniture and stuff hide the irregularities near the baseboards. Tom
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Post# 1719-6/13/2001-08:21 ||| Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Manual posted to enjoy
MESSAGE: Greg, with the roll out washwell? Have several, thank you. Steve in the frozen reaches of NY is the dw expert, maybe he would want. Tom
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Post# 1720-6/13/2001-08:49 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Manual posted to enjoy
MESSAGE: Thanks Rob! Now I know what to look for as my Thor did not come with the dishwash basket. Will drag her out of storage and take pix of her for the club.
jetcone
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Post# 1721-6/13/2001-09:04 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos
MESSAGE: Well, shut my mouth! If Yahoo wasn't being such a bee with an itch this morning, I could really ooh and aah over this place!
I may now have 2 reasons to visit Pheonix -- to meet Stevie Nicks and to visit this graveyard...
-ph
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Post# 1722-6/13/2001-09:10 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Rollermatic service manual on Ebay (synchro-swing)
MESSAGE: Tom,
The real fascinating thing to me is that the agi-tub turned at like 72 opm and spun at 640 rpm, or so the book says (I might have the wrong opm number, but I was impressed that it was that fast). And then once I saw pics of the drive mechanism, my interest really got peeked in this machine. Like Greg, I hope a stand alone machine finds it's way into the club, as now I'd like to see it in action. I have no doubt that the washability was poor, but for the thing to be turning at that rate, it's got to be interesting at least for a little while!
-ph
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Post# 1723-6/13/2001-09:14 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Water Bellows (HOW?!?!?)
MESSAGE: Phil,
Please post how he did it!!! Unless you had an easy one, I have several machines that I can't get the bolt out of and would love any tips and secrets!
-ph
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Post# 1724-6/13/2001-09:20 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: This weeks project
MESSAGE: Jason,
Are you installing on cement, or did you have to put down a backer board first? There was a pretty major article in a recent coin-op trade mag about flooring in a laundromat, and they were saying that unless you tile on top of cement, you need a cement backer board...
-ph
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Post# 1725-6/13/2001-09:38 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: This weeks project (Starting in the Middle?)
MESSAGE: Hi Robert,
You start in the middle so that when you get to the walls you have an equal amount of tile at each wall. If you started at one wall and worked to the other you would have one full tile at the start and maybe only a half of a tile at the other wall.
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Post# 1726-6/13/2001-09:58 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: This weeks project
MESSAGE: It's on see-ment. You can install over plywood, but it has to be real plywood not the OSB junk. They prefer you to put see-ment backer board over the plywood to get the correct level of firmness. If you install on a wood floor it must be 1 inch thick and have a deflection of less than 1/360th of the entire span.
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Post# 1727-6/13/2001-10:59 ||| jaxcubb (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos
MESSAGE: Jay, you've got a really nice house! The layout is similar to my grandmothers (which coincidently was put up on the market this past weekend). I love your pool....I wish my pool was kidney shape instead of the blah rectangular :-)
When can we all come to visit??
Mike
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Post# 1728-6/13/2001-11:04 ||| Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Rollermatic service manual on Ebay (synchro-swing)
MESSAGE: John has saved such a mechanism as you describe. He does admire the engineering that went into it. When I saw my first skini mini, I remember going over to it and expecting to see a regular Frigidaire washer under the lid. I was not happy with what I saw and, while John admires the engineering, I really have no use for the thing. Tom
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Post# 1729-6/13/2001-11:30 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos (stevie nicks)
MESSAGE: stevie nicks lives here? so does alice cooper, glen campbell and cece peniston. must be a haven for the golden-throated.
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Post# 1730-6/13/2001-11:33 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos
MESSAGE: i'm taking reservations now for the winter tourist season!
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Post# 1731-6/13/2001-11:47 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Manual posted to enjoy (thanks guys!)
MESSAGE: Thanks for all that work Scott, that must have taken forever to scan and post all those pages. Nice job & cool manual. Thanks for sharing your manual Robert, it's cool!
Todd
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Post# 1732-6/13/2001-12:05 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Manual posted to enjoy
MESSAGE: Hi Scott;
It looks great! Thanks for taking the time and the effort. That machine is responsible for my attraction to washing machines! It was fun to use and watch! We didn't have the dishwasher attachment and my grandmother always supervised the operation! (lol). Tthe RCA Whirlpool I have now is the replacement for Thor washer! Thanks again! Have a great day!
"Brooklyn Robert"
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Post# 1733-6/13/2001-12:20 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos
MESSAGE: Tom I found those GEs with the fast agitation to be very hard on fabrics. Some don't like Sears machines for the same reason, but I found it much more suitable in that regard. I actually like the agitation in Robert's GE much better. If I had known you when I had my dd Sears machine, I think I would have liked it better. It was a nice machine (for a new machine) but all that shaking and rattling made it seem so cheap.
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Post# 1734-6/13/2001-12:21 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Manual posted to enjoy
MESSAGE: Greg, why do they call that dishwasher a "dishdrawer"?
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Post# 1735-6/13/2001-12:23 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos
MESSAGE: Peter, does Ms. Nicks live in Phoenix?
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Post# 1736-6/13/2001-12:28 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Manual posted to enjoy
MESSAGE: Scott, Greg was being a little inventive, a la F&P with their dishdrawers. The early WH and GE machines had a tub that rolled out versus a door that dropped like KA, for example. Tom
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Post# 1737-6/13/2001-12:32 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Manual posted to enjoy
MESSAGE: You're very welcome Robert! Yahoo has been just a miserable place of late, so I'm glad it is working for everyone to view. Glad everyone is enjoying the manual of this unique appliance!
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Post# 1738-6/13/2001-12:40 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Manual posted to enjoy (Versatility)
MESSAGE: Scott
Enjoyed reading the manual, very versatile machine, dont make them like that anymore.
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Post# 1739-6/13/2001-12:49 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Clash of the Titans.......... (Info Update)
MESSAGE: The Titan is due to be launched shortly with a price tag of approx £600, about half the price of the Dyson Contrarotator.
The baskets are totally removable and the machine comes with one as standard, you can buy extra ones as required and they will be available in a selection of colours.
Will let you know when I try one.....
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 1740-6/13/2001-13:46 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Manual posted to enjoy (Westy Dishwasher)
MESSAGE: I saw one just like it in the pics that Jason posted, this one is turquoise. I haven't tried this one - been in the garage since I brought it home. It's a very cool machine, but I'm just out of room - no more addtions now, just replacements for what's already here. (The link is the Westy pics.)
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1?d&.flabel=fld17&.src=ph
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Post# 1741-6/13/2001-14:55 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Manual posted to enjoy
MESSAGE: It pulls out of the cabinet like a drawer. It's really just a top-load dishwasher mounted on heavy duty drawer glides for built in use. Inside the cabinet is a lid that lowers when it's pushed in, sealing the opening for the cycle. It's a very cool machine - I posted the link to the pictures a couple of posts ago.
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Post# 1742-6/13/2001-14:57 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Manual posted to enjoy
MESSAGE: Have you seen the latest F&P dishdrawer ad? It's a kitchen with hardly any cabinets and many dishdrawers in various locations around the room. Caption reads; "not that you would, but you could."
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Post# 1743-6/13/2001-14:58 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos (Stevie's home)
MESSAGE: "Well I live below, a great red mountain
In the shape of a great huge beast...
In a place the Indians call
Paradise Valley,
Well, this has always been my sanctuary..."
I believe Paradise Valley is a very nice neighborhood just to the north of Phoenix. The great red mountain that she writes about is Camelback Mountain...
Her mother has a booth in a flea market type of place that sells Native American art and some Stevie memorabilia. I think it is called "Silver Springs Emporium".
-ph
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Post# 1744-6/13/2001-15:18 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Manual posted to enjoy
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg, I checked them out! I didn't realize it was that type when I saw it at your house and I"m not sure how it was that I never opened it. I have seen those in magazines but never in person. I'm thinking it must be kind of "heavy" to open when its full of dishes.
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Post# 1745-6/13/2001-15:33 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos (Stevie's home)
MESSAGE: ...here is a view of Camelback mountain from my balcony, slightly hidden by some trees. the camel's head is at left, one of his humps on the right.
jay
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/ringtail59/lst?&.dir=/&.src=ph&.view=t
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Post# 1746-6/13/2001-15:54 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New appliance graveyard photos (Stevie's home)
MESSAGE: Great pictures Jay. Thanks for sharing. Digital cameras are so much fun, talk about instant gratification!
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Post# 1747-6/13/2001-16:30 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: This weeks project
MESSAGE: Thanks for sharing the pictures, Jason. Good job!!! And cute dog! One of my best friends has a Chow that same color that I babysit when she travels. She is a sweetheart. (The dog. Ha!) I have to say it was more fun looking at you laying tile than when I've done that work myself. Your kitchen looks great. And you have a trash compactor! Brat! I can't believe they didn't put one in my kitchen...and I've been told I have to wait at least a year before I can remodel this new house.
Rich
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Post# 1748-6/13/2001-16:42 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Rollermatic service manual on Ebay (synchro-swing)
MESSAGE: I used one of the agi-tubs for a week or two many years ago when I was visiting a friend. It was fun to watch...with the overflow rinse and solid tub throwing out the water. It almost seemed like a toy. In fact, it would make for a very good toy for any member of this club.
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Post# 1749-6/13/2001-17:40 ||| appliguy (Vienna Va.)
SUBJECT: hey chaskelljr or Tomturbomatic..........
MESSAGE: I won two of the Frigidaire three ring agitator sprinklers that were on ebay recently and was wondering if either of you guys would want one of them for the price it cost me? If so please let me know as I would like to give you guys first dibs because you liuve in my area (I live in Vienna). If I don't hear from you guys in a week I will then offer it to someonelse in the club. I hope to hear from you guys.
PAT COFFEY
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Post# 1750-6/13/2001-17:50 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Manuals, post on old club.
MESSAGE: Someone posted this on the old club, thought I'd pass it on if anyone is interested:
Recently aquired a large box of old "Speed Queen"
washer, dryer and dish washer manuals "Brand New"
and would like to sell them. Email for details
His email address is: wbecker@mwci.net
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Post# 1751-6/13/2001-19:02 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Manuals, post on old club.
MESSAGE: Thanks for the update - I'm glad to know someone is thinking of checking for messages on the other forum - never know what dream machine may show up that someone wants to get rid of.
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Post# 1752-6/13/2001-19:06 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Scott - Hoover Attachments Question
MESSAGE: I meant to email you earlier today - I saw a box of attachments for a probably 40's Hoover Vacuum today at the thrift store. Under some miscellaneous Kirby parts was a complete set of these Hoover things in what turned out to be the orginal box & cardboard holders. All the attachments, wands and cloth covered hose were there. Included in these was a Motherizer or something like that - it was a metal box with a port for the hose and a screen like opening on the other end. Do you have any idea what this is, and would you be interested in them? I didn't get them because I only had $23 in cash on me and I bought a Sanitaire vac for myself.
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Post# 1753-6/13/2001-19:13 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Scott - Hoover Attachments Question
MESSAGE: Greg thanks let me drop you an email! Scott
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Post# 1754-6/13/2001-21:26 ||| jakins (Kissimmee, Fl.)
SUBJECT: Hotpoint Transformation
MESSAGE: Hi Guys
Thought You Might like to see My latest Project.
A 1950's Hotpoint Dishwasher I transformed into a portable. I did this so that I can use it from time to time.
As You can see she wasn't pretty when I got her but all she needed was a fresh coat of paint, and a jacket from an old Frigidaire washer (Outer shell). The Top is from a Frigidaire Gallery front Loader. As this was a gravity drain model I had to wire in a pump. Very easy. also hope that you like the Pics of my Home.
Thanks
John
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/jakins2001/lst?&.dir=/My+Photo+Album&.src=ph&.view=t
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Post# 1755-6/13/2001-21:49 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Scott - Hoover Attachments Question
MESSAGE: What model is the Sanitaire? I just got one today too.
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Post# 1756-6/13/2001-21:49 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Scott - Hoover Attachments Question
MESSAGE: What model is the Sanitaire? I just got one today too.
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Post# 1757-6/13/2001-22:42 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Transformation
MESSAGE: Beautiful!! Thanks for the pics - nice to see what people are working on and the wonderful results. Does the top rack lift off of the bottom one? I know it was mentioned, but my mind is a sieve!
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Post# 1758-6/13/2001-22:49 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Scott - Hoover Attachments Question
MESSAGE: The model tag says C2720 on the bottom, but on the hood it says ADVAC 1205. I called it a Sanitaire because I knew it was a Eureka commercial product - but this one may be marketed by Advance floor care products. I recognized it for the Sanitaire qualities and I've always wanted one but when I get vacs for $20 at the thrift store and use them till they're dead, it's hard to spend $369 on a Sanitaire or equivalent. There is a '59 Hotpoint elect. dryer there - been there for several weeks, but nobobdy is biting on that. At another store I saw a sunny yellow GE oven all porc. front that was just beautiful, should have had the camera!
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Post# 1759-6/13/2001-22:56 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Scott - Hoover Attachments Question
MESSAGE: But what the heck is this motherizer thing??
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Post# 1760-6/13/2001-23:04 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Transformation
MESSAGE: Hey John,
Son of Gun!! That dishwasher looks fantastic. I'd like to hear all the details on the repaint, cabinet and top mods, etc. Not to mention the installation of a pump. The chrome and the dial look fantastic too. Super job!
I was talking with the seller before the end of the auction, trying to get her to sell to one of us. I can't remember all the details, but it seemed like she knew it had never been used for some reason. I'm glad you got it. If you don't mind my asking, how much was shipping and who'd you use? Uni you probably know how CU rated these compared to the Frigidaires and KA's, so my question is, how does it wash? Is it very loud, and what kind of cycles does it have? Is there a dry cycle as well?
Your house is great and I like all the antique furniture. Cool dogs. Thanks for the pictures.
Todd
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Post# 1761-6/13/2001-23:05 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Scott - Hoover Attachments Question
MESSAGE: You put moth crystals in it and hook it up to the suction port of the vacuum and hook up the house to the blower port of the vacuum and with the crevis tool on the hose you put moth gas into closets and such for moth proofing. I guess it works. Every time I smell moth balls it brings me back to when I was a wee little bitch and would go to my grandmothers on the weekends. She had moth balls all over the place and I could not stand it. Needless to say when I moved in I got rid of all the stinking things but I have now come to appreciate the smell in small amounts. They work wonders outside to keep the cats away.
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Post# 1762-6/13/2001-23:52 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Scott - Hoover Attachments Question
MESSAGE: Thanks for the explanation - I couldn't figure out how the moths got into the "cage" as there was no opening, and this didn't seem like a very effective way of de-mothing your house, running around trying to catch them with a vacuum! ;-)
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Post# 1763-6/13/2001-00:40 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Scott - Hoover Attachments Question
MESSAGE: You're too funny!! I would have loved to see someone try to do that.
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Post# 1764-6/14/2001-02:45 ||| jakins (Kissimmee, Fl.)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Transformation (Top Rack)
MESSAGE: Yes the Top Rack lifts off. also the center of the top rack comes out to load the bottom rack
John
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Post# 1765-6/14/2001-03:00 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Manual posted to enjoy
MESSAGE: I'd love to see pictures of that machine. I wasn't sure if they were still around. Some Thor washers had different fill spouts some were inside on the top left and some were attached to the center of the back of the machine and the water would enter thru a hole in the top cover. They are great machines does yours still work? I'd love to here it spin again especially when it takes off full of water WOW what a sound it's great!
"Brooklyn Robert"
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Post# 1766-6/14/2001-03:25 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Transformation
MESSAGE: You did a beautiful job on this dishwasher, and what a lovely home you have! It always does my heart good to see that taste and gentility lives on in the hearts and lives of some.
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Post# 1767-6/14/2001-06:23 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Manual posted to enjoy
MESSAGE: Greg, I like the Sub Zero remote drawers, too. The F&P did not get such high marks when CU tested. The first year that WH made the drop door DW that got the high rating in the 65 DW report, they still made one last roll out model. The front was completely plain with one small dial at the top right. It would look very contemporary next to one of today's machines with the one piece front. Thanks for the picture. Tom
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Post# 1768-6/14/2001-06:28 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Manual posted to enjoy
MESSAGE: Scott, not heavy, really, because you were just pulling straight out. GE made two versions, the standard 24" and the super capacity 30" rollout. The 30" machine had a chain drive, like a garage door opener to roll the tub in and out. I have only seen pictures. John has the chain drive. Tom
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Post# 1769-6/14/2001-06:30 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: still the boot ..Manuel is great and Hotpoint DW looks wonderful
MESSAGE: hey guys ... I did get the agitator off the frigidaire with an extention and socket set. Now the problem is removing the old boot. I do not want to do that till I see what the new one looks like. I am not sure how it secures to the tub, it seems to be like a clip. I have had no luck searching for a boot in the Charleston Area did that all day yesterday but in my efforts I found a 1-18 Appliance man said I could have it for 10.00 and with faith when I hooked it up it is in working order. all I think I need to do to it is clean out the circle of spray filling ports they seem to be cloged it fills slow
Greg Gansky I need your zip code sent you an email I am also known as riverstud
thanks
Philippe
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Post# 1770-6/14/2001-06:36 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Transformation
MESSAGE: WOW, John. Super cool job you did with the hotpoint. That's a beautiful machine! Now for the questions... where did you find it, was the impeller broken and where do you keep you're dishwasher collection? Also is the laundry room clock new? And yes a westy set would look beautiful in there. What we couldn't see in your BEAUTIFUL house pictures is what dishwasher you have installed in your kitchen? Thanks so much for sharing.
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Post# 1771-6/14/2001-06:40 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Transformation (Hotpoint was #1)
MESSAGE: Hi Todd, that machine was rated #1 in the CU reports that I have posted in the Consumer Rating Article Library. Frigidaire didn't come out with a DW until '55. I have the next issue of CU Dishwasher Reports, I will scan that soon and place it into the library.
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Post# 1772-6/14/2001-06:44 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: still the boot ..Manuel is great and Hotpoint DW looks wonderful
MESSAGE: Its secured with a snap ring at the bottom of the bellows. Just pop the snap ring open and pull off the belows, it looks just like the old one.
Call Larry at Modern Parts House in Parma, OH. I have the Phone # at work, but call information or do a Yahoo Yellow Pages Lookup. He has those bellows in stock.
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Post# 1773-6/14/2001-06:45 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: hey chaskelljr or Tomturbomatic.......... (3 ring sprinklers)
MESSAGE: Pat, thanks for the super kind offer. We have both had these for quite a while. In fact, one year it was my hat at a Halloween party, with net to simulate the water action and washcloths in colors to match the rings sort of caught up around it to look like the laundry; not that I am any Molly Malloy. Please feel free to offer it to someone who has not yet had quite as much realization of dreams as we have had. Thanks again,
Tom
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Post# 1774-6/14/2001-06:48 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: still the boot ..Manuel is great and Hotpoint DW looks wonderful (Uni your a like a God )
MESSAGE: thanks for the info you are the Guru of appliance information you deserve some type of blessing of appliances ... Maybe Saint hood
Philippe
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Post# 1775-6/14/2001-06:49 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: still the boot ..Manuel is great and Hotpoint DW looks wonderful (sorry my southern english is comming out )
MESSAGE: Been teaching in the south too long Dialec comes out in typing LOL
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Post# 1776-6/14/2001-07:18 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Transformation
MESSAGE: John, Thanks for the tour. That was a pretty neat conversion you did for the HP. That is the machine we have in the free standing style with cabinet. Those are great pictures of the stacked racks with the removable center section for glasses. They are almost identical to the racks in the GE top load build ins of the period. Are all of your other old DWs gone? You had posted some pics on the old site, I believe. How do Duffie and Elsie get along with the tortoise shell cat in the kitchen photo? Friends of mine had dogs and cats and everybody ate out of a couple of 9X13 pans, all together. It was quite a crowd and very well behaved with no aggressive behavior, but a lot of chewing, crunching, animals having a meal type sounds. Tom
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Post# 1777-6/14/2001-07:29 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Transformation
MESSAGE: Todd, at the time that Hotpoint was made, there were no Frigidaire dws. Hotpoint machines generally got good reviews early on, but it was a very small playing field with such losers as the Youngstown Jet Tower, the Apex, which was rated not acceptable unless you reset it for a second rinse and middle of the line machines like the GE. The Hotpoint used to get better results than the GE because HP had a Calrod element to add some heat to the water. It took GE a while to add the element. They did it just before the top load builtin disappeared and the rollouts were introduced. Tom
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Post# 1778-6/14/2001-07:33 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Transformation (Laundry room clock)
MESSAGE: I haven't seen that clock - how very cool. Where did you find that gem?
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Post# 1779-6/14/2001-07:36 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Scott - Hoover Attachments Question
MESSAGE: The only story I know about moth balls is that someone wanted moth crystals and could only find the balls so she got smart and put them in her food processor and gave it a whirl. The container melted in front of her eyes. Tom
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Post# 1780-6/14/2001-07:59 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Scott - Hoover Attachments Question
MESSAGE: My grandfather used to use them to keep snakes away in the garden and around the garage - seemed to work.
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Post# 1781-6/14/2001-08:13 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: still the boot ..Manuel is great and Hotpoint DW looks wonderful
MESSAGE: Philippe, before you go cleaning out the jet circle spray, check the screens on the inlet valves. If they are clogged, it will make for slow filling also and they are a lot easier to check first. Tom
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Post# 1782-6/14/2001-08:15 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: still the boot ..Manuel is great and Hotpoint DW looks wonderful (sorry my southern english is comming out )
MESSAGE: Philippe, what do you teach? Tom
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Post# 1783-6/14/2001-08:43 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: still the boot ..Manuel is great and Hotpoint DW looks wonderful (Taught Culinary Arts for years )
MESSAGE: Started the Culinary & Hospitality program at a local college but now I am in the Center for Faculty staff development and support
We design online virtual college and do training on the many pieces of software the college has
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Post# 1784-6/14/2001-13:22 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: This weeks project (FINISHED)
MESSAGE: Now it's done!!!
LINK: http://web.tampabay.rr.com/jasonspages/floor.html
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Post# 1785-6/14/2001-15:12 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: This weeks project (FINISHED)
MESSAGE: Hi Sweetie, your new floor looks fantastic! It adds a very nice touch to your palace.
QEOM
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Post# 1786-6/14/2001-15:29 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: This weeks project (FINISHED)
MESSAGE: Thank You. It will look better once the grout is sealed. Next is the bathroom.
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Post# 1787-6/14/2001-16:10 ||| jakins (Kissimmee, Fl.)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Transformation (Dishwasher modification)
MESSAGE: This Job fun too do. the first thing I had to do was to put casters on the bottom. As the orig cabnet and tub were very heavy, I had to load the Dishwasher and test that there was enough weight to balance the open door, and the fully loaded racks (As they both commme out at the same time) with out hte fear of tipping over. As you can see the door and the door frame were in sad shape. I tried every stripper on the market
and nothing would take the paint off. I had to braek out the sand paper and electric sander, 150 grit to strip and 400 grit to finish. I like to ues the rustolium appliance epoxy as you do not need to prime and the finish looks great.
The next step was too make sure that she was water tight.
One small leak. What I like to use on any leak is GE Clear silicone. Place a dab under the head of the screw or run a thin coat on a worn gasket and that part will never leak again.
Works Great in hi or low temp Wet or dry And it stays flexable.
The pump was found at am used appliance yard along with the top and housing. The dishwasher is 27in Wide pretty standard for a clothes washer. and the lid is from a frigidaire Front loader like the one in my laundry room.
the pump was from a ge washer (I do not know what model).
The pump wass connected to the drain with flex pvc tubing. Then I traced the electric to the connection box. the pump runs as the main motor is on. This model has a flexable hose that is lifted higher than the drain and cuts off the flow. when it is in drain the hose drops down and the water flows to the pump. The top is just a temp I am looking for a nice wood butcher block to fi it. inside the machine was just dirty. No chips in the porcelain. and the impellar and silverware basket had a shine like they had never been used.
Sorry to be such a long post.
John
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Post# 1788-6/14/2001-16:16 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: This weeks project (FINISHED)
MESSAGE: Fine job you did there. Your kitchen looks really stylish now. What fridge are you looking for? Classic one or modern? After such a job up to the beauty salon for a pampering treatment!! Louis
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Post# 1789-6/14/2001-17:01 ||| jakins (Kissimmee, Fl.)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Transformation (Ans. to Questions)
MESSAGE: Hi Uni
I found the Dishwasher On Ebay Cost 95.00 plus Shipping.
The impeller looks like it had little or no use. No chips or cracks. this impeller is also a different shape than others I have seen. I have put a pic on the link.
I found the clock a few years ago at the Warner Bros. Store in Orlando. I had a Bendix then So I had to have it. I never even look at it any more so if you are interested you can have it.
My daily dishwasher is a KithcheAid KDI21 the original dishwasher that I got with the house was a GE Profile Performance ( GARBAGE ). The old ones cleaned better than that CLEAN SENSOR did. and this one saves money as I can set the water heater at a lower temp now. a pic will de on the web. I know Iknow I should have one of my vintage dishwashers installed in there but My Partner is one of those guys who want modern in the kitchen. The appliances are on the back porch and if all goes well will have some intalled and working in the summer kitchen that will be there by spring of 2002.
John
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/jakins2001/lst?&.dir=/My+Photo+Album&.src=ph&.view=t&.last=1
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Post# 1790-6/14/2001-17:13 ||| jakins (Kissimmee, Fl.)
SUBJECT: RE: This weeks project (FINISHED)
MESSAGE: Great Job. I have done that Job before and I can see From the pics that you did a far better job than I did.
Enjoy
John
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Post# 1791-6/14/2001-18:44 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Transformation (Early Impeller)
MESSAGE: Hi John. That's the early Hotpoint Impeller in your dishwasher. Very neat! The dw must not of had a huge amount of use.
Yes, I know what you mean about having a partner who wants all modern appliances in the house. My previous boyfriend Erik had suggested that I put new appliances in the kitchen, so I decided he was right, I did need some updating, so I went out and got a new boyfriend, LOL.
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Post# 1792-6/14/2001-21:00 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Manual posted to enjoy
MESSAGE: RObert:
I'll dig it out next week and let her rip for ya!
Jon
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Post# 1793-6/14/2001-21:05 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: KM electronic w/d set on eBay
MESSAGE: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1245829533
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1245829533
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Post# 1794-6/14/2001-21:07 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Transformation (Cool Restoration On Hotpoint!!)
MESSAGE: John Its beautiful! What a job. Does the front panel have enamel on the outside or was it paint?
jetcone
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Post# 1795-6/14/2001-21:10 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: still the boot ..Manuel is great and Hotpoint DW looks wonderful (Uni your a like a God )
MESSAGE: Philippe --please don't go too far or his head won't be able to fit through the door!
--------anonymus
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Post# 1796-6/14/2001-21:17 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: This weeks project (FINISHED)
MESSAGE: Jason beautiful work> I envy your abilities! I can't imagine working on a hot day with hot sticky tile glue. yyuuccck!
I love your quote about Brownie.. I have the same problem with Aloysius, he thinks I also bought the furniture for him.
jon
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Post# 1797-6/14/2001-21:57 ||| RobGwisdala (Troy Ohio 45373)
SUBJECT: Rob's Sears Catalog Collection.
MESSAGE: Hello Everyone.
This is my Sears catalog collection=
1966=
Spring Summer
Fall Winter
1974=
Spring Summer
Fall Winter
1976=
Spring Summer
Fall Winter
1978=
Spring Summer
Fall Winter
1980=
Spring Summer
Fall Winter
1981=
Spring Summer
Fall Winter
1982=
Spring Summer
Fall Winter
1983=
Spring Summer
Fall Winter
1984=
Spring Summer
Fall Winter
1985=
Spring Summer
Fall Winter
1986=
100th anniversary book 1886-1986
Rob
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Post# 1798-6/14/2001-22:11 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Manual posted to enjoy
MESSAGE: That would be so great! I wish I could find one of those here in "Brooklyn"! I haven't seen one since I was 4 or 5 years old! Thanks!
"Brooklyn Robert"
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Post# 1799-6/14/2001-22:32 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: This weeks project (FINISHED)
MESSAGE: Thanks Jon. It was not that bad. I had the a/c down to 72 while I was doing the work. Everyone else froze.
Brownie is a spoiled baby. Tonight he decided to claim my coffee as his. Got a few picts of him and I'll post them tomorrow.
J
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Post# 1800-6/14/2001-00:46 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Sunbeam Coffeemaster
MESSAGE: Ok, this is a small appliance, but I know a number of members here own these. So with a big thanks to Tomturbomatic who sent these for me to scan, I have placed a link in the link section (and here) of the instructions I scanned. Scott
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/happyhotpoint/lst?.dir=/Sunbeam+Coffeemaster+Instructions&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/happyhotpoint/lst%3f.dir=/Sunbeam%2bCoffeemaster%2bInstructions%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 1801-6/15/2001-04:47 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Transformation (Rolling on the Floor Laughing My ass off )
MESSAGE: Uni
I belive with your Philosophy of change appliances or new boy friend ...thanks for the good laugh I agree with you its easier to find a "friend" than a hotpoint inpeller
Philippe
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Post# 1802-6/15/2001-04:52 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Manual posted to enjoy
MESSAGE: Robert actually my Thor came from NY. The woman I bought it from had lived in an apartment all her life and was in a nursing home up here in Boston near her children. They had emptied her apt and moved everything up here into storage.
Someone told me long ago that the Thor was designed for the NY & Chicago markets, for apartment dwellers. Has anyone in the club ever seen a Thor anywhere else?
jet
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Post# 1803-6/15/2001-05:07 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: Manual posted to enjoy (I had one when I was 14)
MESSAGE: Jet
I had found one in a thirft store in Manchester NH when I was just a child ... the one thing I remember is the balance wheel for the washer had to have oil in it or else that thing bounced all over the basement. I had fun with it till the transmission shit the bed. Now with the manuel I can see how the dishwasher worked
Philippe
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Post# 1804-6/15/2001-06:24 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Manual posted to enjoy
MESSAGE: Jon, The only Thor I nave ever seen was in Ottawa, Illinois, in the home of some wealthy friends of my parents. I was maybe 4 at the time. The Thor was not near the sink, but was off to the side in like a service area on the far side of the kitchen from the dining room. I pulled a chair up to it so that I could look inside. I remember that the entry hall had a tiled fountain by the stairs. I am sure that you could also say that the Bendix Economat was designed for apt. dwellers because it had no vibrations from spin and could be connected at the sink. There was a whole neighborhood of single family homes in the Arlington, Va area that had the Thor installed in the kitchens by the builder. TT
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Post# 1805-6/15/2001-06:30 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Manual posted to enjoy (I had one when I was 14)
MESSAGE: Good heavens Philippe, your parents let you take the washing machine to bed with you? I remember a few times when my brother and I would get new toys and, not being able to bear parting with them when we had to go to bed, our parents would let us take them to bed with us. They gently removed them after we went to sleep and put them beside the bed so that we could see them as soon as we woke. TT
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Post# 1806-6/15/2001-06:39 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Sunbeam Coffeemaster (Sunbeam Coffeemaster)
MESSAGE: The one thing I forgot to add to the instructions is that you should always moisten the gasket with water before inserting it in the bowl for brewing coffee. A drop or two on the finger tip rubed around the circumference is sufficient. This makes it easier to remove the upper bowl after brewing and also seems to help protect the gasket from the heat. Don't moisten it before storing and let the Coffeemaster dry well inside. You do not want moisture making corrosion inside. TT
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Post# 1807-6/15/2001-06:54 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: still the boot ..Manuel is great and Hotpoint DW looks wonderful (Uni your a like a God )
MESSAGE: Now you're in big trouble mister!
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Post# 1808-6/15/2001-07:03 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Manual posted to enjoy (All Porcelain Houses)
MESSAGE: The builder who built the "All Porcelain Houses" here on the south side of Minneapolis, installed Thor machines in all their homes. I met a couple a few years ago that had recently moved into one of these homes and had thrown away their Thor. I met them about 6 months too late. The “All Porcelain Houses” have porcelain roofs, walls, floors and everything else that you can make porcelain.
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Post# 1809-6/15/2001-07:06 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Sunbeam Coffeemaster
MESSAGE: Thanks guys - nice to have these for reference. I have a K-M, but I see the Sunbeams all the time at sales. May have to pick one up, they are one of the coolest styles.
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Post# 1810-6/15/2001-07:15 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: still the boot ..Manuel is great and Hotpoint DW looks wonderful (Uni your a like a God )
MESSAGE: ohhh i'mm skeared!!!!
BTW your phone is out of order this morning!
-j
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Post# 1811-6/15/2001-07:15 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Manual posted to enjoy (All Porcelain Houses)
MESSAGE: Robert, we had three of those in Greenbelt. They were supposed to revolutionize housing construction, but the unions fought them and the concept died. John did a service call for a lady who lived in one. He said the kitchen looked sort of like a submarine inside with all metal and the builtin lights and stuff. They have now all been covered with siding to hide the porcelain.
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Post# 1812-6/15/2001-07:17 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Sunbeam Coffeemaster
MESSAGE: Greg:
Hold onto that K-M they are very rare but not as well made as the Coffeemaster.
jet
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Post# 1813-6/15/2001-07:22 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Sunbeam Coffeemaster
MESSAGE: I meant to bring it out when Scott was here so we cold try it, but forgot. I did have it out waiting for my parents (coffee-holics) when they came shortly after I found the K-M and they were not amused. "Where's the Mr. Coffee?"
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Post# 1814-6/15/2001-07:32 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Sunbeam Coffeemaster
MESSAGE: OMG! That Mr.Coffee and America's fixation on anything plastic is what KILLED the Coffeemaster. Don't they realize that plastic is oilphyllic to coffee oils and absorbes them over time so that all you will eventually brew is stale tasting coffee once the oils go rancid in the plastic.
"Oh America you have forsaken you appliance past!"*
jet
*from appliance doctrine
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Post# 1815-6/15/2001-07:48 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: still the boot ..Manuel is great and Hotpoint DW looks wonderful (Uni your a like a God )
MESSAGE: No its not, I just have the "Evil-Reject" button depressed on my rotary phone. That way only non-evil calls can get through! LOL.
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Post# 1816-6/15/2001-07:57 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: still the boot ..Manuel is great and Hotpoint DW looks wonderful (Uni your a like a God )
MESSAGE: I'll get you and your little dog tooo! And all your machines and your basement!
HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHEEHEHEHEHEHHEHEHEHHEHCACKLECACKLE
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Post# 1817-6/15/2001-08:08 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: still the boot ..Manuel is great and Hotpoint DW looks wonderful (Uni your a like a God )
MESSAGE: You must have pushed it last night as I couldn't get through either!
You need us "evil" people in your life to keep things interesting and to help keep you from becoming a little old lady with 34 cats that never leaves the house!
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Post# 1818-6/15/2001-08:11 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Sunbeam Coffeemaster
MESSAGE: Greg, just make sure that any that you pick up have good gaskets. The gaskets can get hard and brittle, making the brewer a piece of non-functioning art. When Jon learns how to mold neoprene and finds the mold for these, we will be in business. Neoprene was very resistant to grease, detergents and heat. I think as long as those gaskets were kept clean and not stored over a gas stove that they had a better chance of lasting and staying soft and supple than the older rubber ones. You also want to make sure that the plating is good. Once it's damaged and the copper is showing, it cannot be repaired. Buying them if the gasket is good is like putting money in the bank since there are no new gaskets and from Scott's Sunbeam website, there seems to be a market for them. Tom
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Post# 1819-6/15/2001-08:14 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Sunbeam Coffeemaster
MESSAGE: They were rated not acceptable by CU because water could run down the lower bowl and enter the plastic housing with the electrical components, but they did make good coffee. The Sunbeam's mesh filter is easier to use than the cloth that came in the KM. TT
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Post# 1820-6/15/2001-08:23 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: still the boot ..Manuel is great and Hotpoint DW looks wonderful (Uni your a like a God )
MESSAGE: 34 cats and never gets out? Hmmm, who does that sound like? Oh yeah, ME!!! I may only have 4 cats now, but I still don't get out much. Watch it, Greg... :)
-ph
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Post# 1821-6/15/2001-08:26 ||| ryanm (New York)
SUBJECT: New Washers
MESSAGE: Which new washer has a better spin speed, the Maytag Atlantis, or the Amana? I notice there does not seem to be a way to run the Amana with the lid up, because the switch seems to be unable to be 'fooled' manually. The Maytag switch looks like you could do something to run it with the lid up. My current washer runs with the lid up. Any information would be appreciated.
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Post# 1822-6/15/2001-08:26 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Sunbeam Coffeemaster (Neoprene?)
MESSAGE: The gaskets are made of neoprene? Shoot, the local leather store carries lots of them in all sizes. You guys just have been looking for them in the wrong places!
-ph
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Post# 1823-6/15/2001-08:29 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: still the boot ..Manuel is great and Hotpoint DW looks wonderful (Uni your a like a God )
MESSAGE: Be careful doing laundry dear, you wouldn't want any water to splash on you and ruin your beautiful wickedness. What a world, what a world. hissss, sizzle, plop. Tom
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Post# 1824-6/15/2001-08:29 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Transformation (Ans. to Questions)
MESSAGE: Great house and wonderful work on the DW, John!
-ph
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Post# 1825-6/15/2001-08:31 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: New Washers
MESSAGE: The Calypso spins at 800. If you want to go to a European frontloader, you can get faster spins and a glass window, in most cases, to look through. Tom
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Post# 1826-6/15/2001-08:35 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Sunbeam Coffeemaster (Neoprene?)
MESSAGE: No, Peter, there is nothing like this out there. It has pockets to hold an almost work of art stainless steel spring that keeps the gasket in perfect shape to hold the upper bowl in the exact perfect position to allow all but a tablespoon of water to rise to the top bowl during brewing. Trust me on this one. I was cruising Coffeemasters before you were born. TT
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Post# 1827-6/15/2001-08:42 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Transformation (Ans. to Questions)
MESSAGE: The wings were to circulate the air during dry. TT
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Post# 1828-6/15/2001-08:50 ||| ryanm (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: New Washers
MESSAGE: Thanks for the response Tom, but I do not like front loaders, never did. My choice will be either the Atlantis by Maytag, or the Amana which I am very impressed with. The Calypso has too many problems, and I am not convinced that my kids dirty clothes could possibly come clean in that machine.
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Post# 1829-6/15/2001-09:37 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: New Washers
MESSAGE: What problems have you read about with the Calypso? The so-called pump problem was the failure to use a low sudsing detergent, just as many of the problems that people encountered in the 50s with front loaders was their failure to use a controlled sudsing detergent. You can see that in coin laundries to this day. I have seen some pretty impressive cleaning from the Calypso, but if you feel that you have to have your clothes submerged in 20 gallons of wash water, there is nothing I can say to change your mind. You asked about spin speeds. I answered with a spin speed. I did not know that part of the question was what kind of new washer you wanted to buy. Tom
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Post# 1830-6/15/2001-10:10 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: still the boot ..Manuel is great and Hotpoint DW looks wonderful (Uni your a like a God )
MESSAGE: True, now I'm just a little old lady with 34 washers and other little old ladies for friends, right Grandma? LOLoLoLoL
Maybe its me who's the evil one!
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Post# 1831-6/15/2001-10:23 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: still the boot ..Manuel is great and Hotpoint DW looks wonderful (The evil one)
MESSAGE: You're not the only one Robert. I can think of 3 or 4 others to add to the list.
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Post# 1832-6/15/2001-10:55 ||| RobGwisdala (Troy Ohio 45373)
SUBJECT: RE: Rob's Sears Catalog Collection. (I don't have a scanner.)
MESSAGE: Hello Everyone.
I don't have a scanner to scan my catalogs.
I wish I had a scanner so I could put my collection in the library on this website.
My catalogs covers the 1966-1985 belt drive washers and matching dryers.
The modern washers are the 1976-1985 models with the "large 18 pound capacity" basket and DAA.
Rob
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Post# 1833-6/15/2001-11:03 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: New Washers
MESSAGE: Mike,
I stand behind Amana with the MTG Atlantis in second place. Amana/SQ seems to have bearing problems in the commercial world, but in a home setting will probably be OK. On the other hand, I have heard little to nothing about Atlantis problems. Maybe MTG has worked some of the dependability problems out of the Norge design? It could happen!
-ph
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Post# 1834-6/15/2001-11:12 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: This weeks project (FINISHED)
MESSAGE: Dogs thinking the furniture is for them, and you think that is a problem? I had a cat who thought I was the furniture. Biggest problem he had was that the furniture was moving now and then LOL.
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Post# 1835-6/15/2001-11:16 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: New Washers
MESSAGE: Tom,
I think the problem with Calypso is that once the load is wet, the bouncing action does little to decompress/uncompress the load, such that what ever happens to get trapped in the folds of the load tend to remain there. Stained fabrics come clean because of the concentrated water/soap, but if there is actual soil, it remains stuck in the folds. It seems to be kinda like pre-rinsing dishes before putting them in the dishwasher. Anything solid seems to remain, while the light stuff vanishes. For people without kids who don't do alot of yard work or construction, Calypso seems to be great. But start adding garden soil, dried mustard, and drywall dust, and the cleaning takes a nose dive.
-ph
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Post# 1836-6/15/2001-11:21 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: POTD - Pulsamatic
MESSAGE: Man, I can't WAIT to see this machine at convention! 630 ppm's!!! WOW!!!!!
-ph
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Post# 1837-6/15/2001-11:30 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: This weeks project (FINISHED)
MESSAGE: I guess that would be a problem. I hope the cat was declawed.
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Post# 1838-6/15/2001-11:36 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Sunbeam Coffeemaster
MESSAGE: Oh dear, I think you guys have to explain what a mr Coffee is. Sounds horrible.
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Post# 1839-6/15/2001-11:44 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: This weeks project (FINISHED)
MESSAGE: The wounds have healed.
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Post# 1840-6/15/2001-13:37 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Sunbeam Coffeemaster
MESSAGE: Louis I bet we can find you one when we go Estate Saleing with Uni in August so you can take it back to Europe as prime example if American Kistch!
jextcone--the "x" is silent!
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Post# 1841-6/15/2001-13:43 ||| RobGwisdala (Troy Ohio 45373)
SUBJECT: RE: New Washers
MESSAGE: Hi Ryan,
Here are the spin speeds of the Maytag Alantis washers=
high speed=
620rpm
low speed=
410rpm
Here are the spin speeds of the Amana Perfect Balance washers=
high speed=
640rpm(two speed models)
low speed=
420rpm(two speed models)
high speed=
710rpm(three speed models)
low speed=
430rpm(three speed models)
I hope this information helps you out.
Thank you.
Rob
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Post# 1842-6/15/2001-14:13 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Sunbeam Coffeemaster
MESSAGE: I bet I need to wear sunglasses and a scarf when I take one home.
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Post# 1843-6/15/2001-14:29 ||| RobGwisdala (Troy Ohio 45373)
SUBJECT: RE: Rob's Sears Catalog Collection. (1976-1985 Kenmore Laundry Equipment.)
MESSAGE: Hello Everybody.
1976-1985 Kenmore laundry equipment=
1976 Spring Summer catalog=
Dual Action agitator
Woodgrain "match all" console
Pull to start/Push to stop timer
1981 Fall Winter catalog=
Woodgrain "match all" console markings was changed
Large "18 pound" Capacity baskets was changed from 26 gallons on the highest water level to 21 gallons on the highest water level
Penta Swirl and Super Roto Swirl agitators was no longer used
All Standard "14 pound" Capacity washers became 24 inches wide
1st direct drive washer was introduced as an Standard Capacity model
1st non recirculating self cleaning lint filter was introduced on the direct drive washer
I like the recirculating self cleaning lint filter better...It removes more lint and soil from the wash and rinse water.
Rob
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Post# 1844-6/15/2001-15:19 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Sunbeam Coffeemaster
MESSAGE: Well Greg, I'd have been very amused! You will have to save that one for next time! S
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Post# 1845-6/15/2001-15:20 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Sunbeam Coffeemaster
MESSAGE: ...not to mention they're messy and no true conisseur of coffee is going to like what they produce...quite frankly I don't see how people have not seen through these deplorable things and gone back to percolators and coffeemasters long before now!
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Post# 1846-6/15/2001-15:23 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New Washers
MESSAGE: 800? Do the Calypsos have that wonderful Kenmore shake rattle, roll and dance feature? ;-)
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Post# 1847-6/15/2001-15:27 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Sunbeam Coffeemaster
MESSAGE: It is one of the truly most horrible gadgets America ever put to market. And as with most truly horrible American gadgets, people buy them in droves.
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Post# 1848-6/15/2001-16:06 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Re: Coffeemaster - Mr. Coffee
MESSAGE: They buy them because they are $17.99 on sale at any given discount store every week. Remember, we have become a disposable society; "don't fix it, throw it away" and "engineered obsolesence" are the rules of consumerism that most have come to accept. One only needs to look at the pics of the appliance graveyard in Phoenix that Jay posted the other day - did you notice all the machines there that were less than 10-12 years old?
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Post# 1849-6/15/2001-16:25 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Coffeemaster - Mr. Coffee
MESSAGE: Right Greg, and it is because people are so willing to bend over backwards to "accept" this and other ridiculous things, whether they be products, prices, unreasonable expectations, or whatever the case, that we are in the shape we're in today. As a result, that is probably part of the reason why there are 10-12 year old things in Jay's graveyard!
People too easily shrug their shoulders and say "oh well, that's the way it is" today and this then is the way things turn out. If people would quit buying this crap and say I'm not going to put up with this anymore, sooner or later things would have to change.
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Post# 1850-6/15/2001-17:07 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Coffeemaster - Mr. Coffee
MESSAGE: Louis, here's a link to the Mr. Coffee website for your enjoyment/amusement -
LINK: http://www.mrcoffee.com/
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Post# 1851-6/15/2001-17:49 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Transformation (your laundry room)
MESSAGE: Hi John
Thanks for the pictures of your dishwasher and your home. Both are beautiful! I really enjoyed looking at them. Your laundry room looks like mine! Look....
Rich
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/golittlesport/vwp?.dir=/Continuing+Vintage+Ads&.src=ph&.dnm=my+laundry+room.JPG&.view=t&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/golittlesport/lst%3f%26.dir=/Continuing%2bVintage%2bAds%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 1852-6/15/2001-20:34 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: This weeks project (FINISHED)
MESSAGE: nice job Jason!
Do you contract out your services?
Steve 1-18
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Post# 1853-6/15/2001-21:03 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Sunbeam Coffeemaster
MESSAGE: Scott,
Thanks for scanning and posting the Coffee Master manual. Please (all members) be on the lookout for a cover (lid) for mine. The pot is in excellent shape, but the lid was in three pieces.
Steve 1-18
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Post# 1854-6/15/2001-21:09 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: This weeks project (FINISHED)
MESSAGE: And what services would this be in reference to?
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Post# 1855-6/15/2001-21:10 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Transformation (Rich???? B&D Kenmores)
MESSAGE: Rich you've got your Kenmores boxed in so they can't run around the laundryroom when you are out of the house! And you can't see what they are doing with their feet behind that panel. They could be playing footsie and then pretty soon you'd have alot of little kenmores on their way!!! Big chance in my book. I keep my machines front and center all the time where I can keep an eye on them!!
jetcone
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Post# 1856-6/15/2001-21:12 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Sunbeam Coffeemaster (What lid??)
MESSAGE: I have tons of lids......you fool.........tell me the model and I'll mail one off to you.
jetcone
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Post# 1857-6/15/2001-21:13 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: Gansky still searching
MESSAGE: Greg I am still searching for a new lint filter holder for you.
Hang in there I didn't forget.
jetcone
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Post# 1858-6/15/2001-21:21 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: New Washers
MESSAGE: The switch is hidden, but it can be fooled. If yours is like my mom's (a 96) the switch is in the control panel. if you look in the back the lid overhangs the rest of the rear of the machine. If you reach underneath the control panel (there's a gap approx. 1 inch), starting at the control knob, about center, you should feel the switch. As you raise and lower the lid, you can hear the switch click. You should be able to feel the switch in the back. Once you do, open the lid and with your finger you should be able to move the switch up and down and hear it click.
I fixed my mom's to run by looping a 16 inch piece of wire over the top of the switch and putting some weights on it.
Hope this helps you.
Steve 1-18
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Post# 1859-6/15/2001-22:13 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Transformation (Rich???? B&D Kenmores)
MESSAGE: Speaking of front and center...where is that Gyromatic Bendix? I know you've been working on it and I can't wait to see/hear what you did about the door boot!
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Post# 1860-6/15/2001-22:16 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Gansky still searching
MESSAGE: Not to worry, it's not like I don't have a full "in box" already! Thanks Jon - Greg
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Post# 1861-6/15/2001-22:41 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Sunbeam Coffeemaster (What lid??)
MESSAGE: Jon,
I should have known. The model is: C30B
Many thanks!
Steve 1-18
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Post# 1862-6/15/2001-23:31 ||| Steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: Updated Profile
MESSAGE: I added a little to my history and updated my inventory, so when you have a few minutes, take a stroll down my memory lane.
Steve 1-18
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Post# 1863-6/15/2001-23:40 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Sunbeam Coffeemaster
MESSAGE: You're very welcome Steve! Glad to see that Jet has a lid you can use. I'm going to collect whatever I can pertaining to these at the sales too! Off to check out your new bio! S
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Post# 1864-6/16/2001-04:13 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Coffeemaster - Mr. Coffee (I know that filter)
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg for posting the link. I know that type of filter, it's used in some coffeemachines that you see in some canteens and cafeterias. They make horrible coffee. Fortunately we have 220V 50 cycles overhere and a mr Coffee purchased at a estatesale wouldn't be of any use overhere :-)
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Post# 1865-6/16/2001-04:13 ||| mooney6au (Sydney, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: New Washers
MESSAGE: Ryan,
Why not go for the New Zealand made Fisher and Paykel. All models have up to a 1000rpm spin speed. If you like top loaders they get great performance reviews in Australia but like all top loaders are thirsty on water. At least the high spin speed will save $'s on drying.
Greg
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Post# 1866-6/16/2001-04:26 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Updated Profile
MESSAGE: Wonderful update on your Profile. I can't wait to see your collection especially since there are two 1996 Rapidry in it ;-)
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Post# 1867-6/16/2001-05:32 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Manual posted to enjoy
MESSAGE: I live in an old Brooklyn neighborhood called "Willaimsburg", most of my customers have their washer installed in the kitchen or bathroom, and I can understand why the Thor would have been great around here. It colud have been installed anywhere. They are solid tub machines and can drain into a sink, bathtub, toilet , etc. without the need for a syphon break, the water supply could be from any source. The only complaint I remeber my grandmother had was that she had to stay with it because it had no timer. I wish I could find one here, they are great machines and were built to last!
"Brooklyn Robert"
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Post# 1868-6/16/2001-09:15 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Coffeemaster - Mr. Coffee (I know that filter)
MESSAGE: Don't worry about the voltage conversion, at every discount store, the also sell voltage converters for use in Europe, so you can take home any small appliance you take a liking to!
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Post# 1869-6/16/2001-10:52 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Coffeemaster - Mr. Coffee (I know that filter)
MESSAGE: It's not only the voltage that is the problem, also the 50 cycles, fortunately!!
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Post# 1870-6/16/2001-19:08 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Estate Sale Satruday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Nothing to write home about in today sales, but we found a few choice things...
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/estatesale4/lst?&.dir=/Estate+Sale+Saturday+June+16+2001&.src=ph&.begin=9999&.view=t&.order=&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/estatesale4/lst%3f%26.dir=/Estate%2bSale%2bSaturday%2bJune%2b16%2b2001%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 1871-6/16/2001-20:14 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Coffeemaster - Mr. Coffee (I know that filter)
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, in this case your wiring differences are most fortunate and you are most wise.
QEOM
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Post# 1872-6/16/2001-22:47 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT: Todays adventures
MESSAGE: I spent today with a friend and we went thrifting and also rebuilt some Hoover vacuums. Here are the picts from today.
http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/jasond21/lst?.dir=/My+Photo+Album&.view=t
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Post# 1873-6/16/2001-23:03 ||| RobGwisdala (Troy Ohio 45373)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Satruday Cybershow (Two washers in same laundry room.)
MESSAGE: Hi Robert and Scott.
Thank you for the pics. I liked them very much!
Could I ask you two a question?
Why did one laundry room have two washers?(direct drive Kenmore and Frigmore frontloader)
Rob
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Post# 1874-6/16/2001-23:12 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Satruday Cybershow (Two washers in same laundry room.)
MESSAGE: The same reason I have 2 washers in my laundry room. Because we can silly.
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Post# 1875-6/16/2001-23:54 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New Washers (F&P SmartDrive video clips)
MESSAGE: See the link in the "Member Links" section, or follow the link on this message.
LINK: http://users.wcnet.net/dadoes/smartdrive/smartdrive_pics.html
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Post# 1876-6/16/2001-00:02 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Todays adventures (Blonde moment)
MESSAGE: OOPS
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/jasond21/lst?.dir=/My+Photo+Album&.view=t
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Post# 1877-6/16/2001-01:44 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Todays adventures (Blonde moment)
MESSAGE: Hi Sweetie, what great pictures and finds! What is that brown one in the very front of you, the tank? Your GE canister is very nice, and I love the hair dryer and other wonderful things! Does Mike like the "full hood" convertibles? I saw a kind of candy apple green one today. I saw one of the ones with the funky bags kind of like in his picture a few weeks ago too.
I must be going through my tool phase, what with my wonderful model 61 set last week, and the beautiful model 63 set I found this week! I'll try and call you tomorrow.
QEOM
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Post# 1878-6/16/2001-01:44 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New Washers (F&P SmartDrive video clips)
MESSAGE: Thanks Dadoes for the new clips! I watched one and will watch some more tomorrow! Have to work in the morning so I better go to bed. :)
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Post# 1879-6/17/2001-10:44 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Todays adventures (Blonde moment)
MESSAGE: That is a Kenmore Canister with a complete set of tools.
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Post# 1880-6/17/2001-10:46 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: Happy Dad's Day
MESSAGE: Happy Father's day, Todd, Greg, and any other dads out there!
Rich
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Post# 1881-6/17/2001-12:03 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy Dad's Day
MESSAGE: Thanks Rich - You have a great day too!!
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Post# 1882-6/17/2001-18:58 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New Washers (F&P SmartDrive video clips)
MESSAGE: Scott,
Those clips aren't really new. All of them were posted on 04/22/2001, except the braking clip which is from 04/30/2001. I provided the link again for the new club members who may not have seen them yet, and/or haven't checked out the Member Links section.
Included on this message is a link to my Yahoo Photo album, for those who haven't seen it.
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/dadoes_ec
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Post# 1883-6/17/2001-19:00 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: Dirty/Clean Dish Test in KA Superba
MESSAGE: Here's another set of pics for those who may have missed them.
LINK: http://users.wcnet.net/dadoes/dirtydish/dirtydish.htm
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Post# 1884-6/17/2001-19:21 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: New photos online
MESSAGE: hi and happy father's day to all. just posted some pics of my Haier XQB40-F portable washer in case anyone is interested. It holds only 8.8lbs of laundry and has a spinning disk in the bottom of the basket.
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/ringtail59/lst?&.dir=/&.src=ph&.view=t
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Post# 1885-6/17/2001-20:49 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New photos online
MESSAGE: Hey, thanks, that's fascinating! I've never seen a machine like that in action.
Questions/Comments --
1. I assume the the little funnel thing at the edge of the basket is a bleach dispenser, and opposite from the funnel is a lint filter. Interesting that all of it spins along with the basket.
2. What's the difference between "Heavy Wash" and "Normal Wash?" Just cycle time? What's the green "Wash" section?
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Post# 1886-6/17/2001-22:05 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New Washers (F&P SmartDrive video clips)
MESSAGE: oh ok, well, I enjoyed them again then! I remember you put all those newer action shots up a while back, and I did go through the whole list at that time.
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Post# 1887-6/17/2001-22:09 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New photos online
MESSAGE: That's very cool Jay! Kinda like a mini-Calypso! Does it give good washing results? Spin very fast?
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Post# 1888-6/17/2001-22:38 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Satruday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Hi Robert;
I always enjoy seeing your pictures from the estate sales especially all the different washers and how many different ways they are installed. I really thought I've seen it all, as far as the different ways a washer could be installed (water source/drain) living here in Brooklyn; but the picture of the Maytag wringer which looks like the use the drain hose to fill & drain the machine has to be the best yet! WOW! (LOL)
"Brooklyn Robert"
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Post# 1889-6/17/2001-23:36 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: RE: New photos online
MESSAGE: it is actually a fabric softener dispenser and the little mesh bag catches the lint. heavy wash runs a little longer and has 2 rinses instead of 1, and "wash" just washes, no rinse or spin. i looked for spin speed in the manual but it doesn't list it. it works ok for it's size but i think in this case bigger is better.
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Post# 1890-6/17/2001-00:39 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: New photos online (Haier Washer)
MESSAGE: Do you know how long, or how many revolutions the agitation disc spins before changing directions?
I remember seeing a Speed Queen labeled machine quite some years ago at the Home Show & Expo that had a similar washing action, but the agitator had a central shaft. It was Japanese made and I was told the agitator (it did have a center shaft with a filter inside) made 2 1/2 revolutions in each direction with a slight pause in between. They had it running with no water so you could see the agitation. It was a great machine which also had a matching dryer, but it was only 115v, so it was very slow. I don't thing they were around very long as I never saw them in the stores and never again since the show.
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Post# 1891-6/17/2001-00:45 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: POTD - Nice Hairdo Scott!
MESSAGE: I can't believe that somebody caught Scott NOT watching his Frigidaire do it's job!
Great picture - love that styling of the 1960 model.
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Post# 1892-6/17/2001-00:48 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Satruday Cybershow (Door Boot Intact?)
MESSAGE: I noticed that boot was still in place on that Frigmore washer - probably would stay on forever unless someone pulls it off. We were so naughty!
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Post# 1893-6/17/2001-01:13 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: RE: New photos online (Haier Washer)
MESSAGE: it looks like it spins maybe 40 times before switching direction. with the slight pause between directions, it takes about 10 seconds to complete the clockwise/counterclockwise cycle. it was made in china and is the largest capacity of that type of washer. the other similar machines by haier hold 3.3 & 4.5 lbs of laundry while this one holds a whopping 8.8 lbs.
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Post# 1894-6/17/2001-01:16 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: Washer Repair Manuals
MESSAGE: i came across this site that sells repair manuals, including the Frigidaire Roller-matic for anyone interested.
LINK: http://doityourselfparts.com/manuals.htm
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Post# 1895-6/18/2001-05:09 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: New Washers (& SmartVids)
MESSAGE: DADoES
Just viewed the vids & pics,never seen the F&P in action, my aunt has just returned from NZ and raved about her`s.
Are these type of machines with DD motors & electronics much quieter than belt drive/gearbox etc??.
Its great to see these types of machines in action, really sloshing & moving the clothes around. If European manufacturers use any less water in their machines we`ll have to start calling them dry cleaning washers instead.
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 1896-6/18/2001-05:18 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: New photos online (Revisited Technology ???)
MESSAGE: Hi Jay
Cute machine, is this the machine that also has the jets of air as well as the paddle wash??
Its interesting that this technology moves in and out of time.
Now where have we seen this type of technology before, the Hoover Keymatic 1961 perhaps????
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 1897-6/18/2001-08:21 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Satruday Cybershow (Cool GM Stove )
MESSAGE: I love that Frig drop in range
glad you guys had a great day
Peter
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Post# 1898-6/18/2001-09:20 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT: What happened?
MESSAGE: Did everyone fall asleep at their washers this weekend or did the appliance gremlin eat everyone?
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Post# 1899-6/18/2001-09:59 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: What happened?
MESSAGE: This was a dead weekend in ATL for hunting, however the heat and/or gremlins adversely effected the 'mat. I spent all weekend dealing with jammed coin slides, broken start mechanisms, a bad reversing relay, and customers not making sure the load is all in the machine before closing, locking and starting the FL's. Keys, washer tops, screwdrivers, silicone lube and mops were flying this weekend...and it wasn't even that busy!!!
-ph
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Post# 1900-6/18/2001-10:41 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: hotpoint w/d
MESSAGE: Wow! That pic of the day is really cool. I never realized that Hotpoint manufactured a combination washer/dryer! Was this a GE machine in Hotpoint's clothing? Anyone ever see one of these critters?
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Post# 1901-6/18/2001-10:53 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: RE: New photos online (Revisited Technology ???)
MESSAGE: nope, no jets of air with this one. what did the jets of air do, just blow air into the water?
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Post# 1902-6/18/2001-11:18 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: Sad news
MESSAGE: I had planned everything to come to the washer convention and I was looking forward to this very much. But... Last Saturday my upstairs neighbour told me that I could move into her apartment. This apartment is really nice, it's twice as big as mine and it has an attic (not for appliances though). Since it is hard to find a decent house overhere at the moment I said yes to her offer. Unfortunately that means that I can't come to the convention. I need the days off and the money to move upstairs. Although I'm very glad I got the apartment I also feel sad that I will miss this wonderful event and will not meet (now) all the wonderful people who are going to be there. I hope you all understand that I had to make this choice. Yesterday I mailed the people who were involved in my plans. Nevertheless I hope to visit the US in the near future.
Louis
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Post# 1903-6/18/2001-11:48 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Sad news (oh man!!!)
MESSAGE: Shoot!!! Darn it!!! Dagnabit!!!
Louis, I'm very happy that you have the opportunity to better your living arrangements. I'm sure that it's a top priority for you! Congrats on getting new and improved "digs".
On the other hand, now you don't have to worry about when you can come Stateside and where you'll have to be. Who knows -- by the time you come over, we'll have the Apex and AMC found!
-ph
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Post# 1904-6/18/2001-14:43 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: What happened? (Sattilite chip)
MESSAGE: Peter
Have you seen these key cards that are programable the run on the same chip technology that sattilite TV works off of only one place to deal with money and you can track customers and so on .. Hooterville just got large machines and I thought This was pretty cool because since it opened I have used them when I am depressed I go wash a big rug ... It gave me my load for free as a thank you
Wet
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Post# 1905-6/18/2001-14:46 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: Sad news (Use to Live in Germany )
MESSAGE: I undersstand completely what your going thru and by all means there will be a next time even if its at my house with my three washers LOL (laughing on line)..
Wet
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Post# 1906-6/18/2001-16:26 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Sad news
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, thank you for your email which we received yesterday. While we are indeed quite sad that we will not meet you as soon as we had thought or hoped, we also know that you have wanting to locate larger quarters for some time, and are pleased that you will not have to go far to get into them!
We're quite sure we speak for everyone in the American contingent however that a future, rescheduled state visit will be much welcomed and anticipated.
We shall drop you some correspondence soon, and we'll chat more then.
QEOM
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Post# 1907-6/18/2001-16:40 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: What happened? (Sattilite chip)
MESSAGE: Oh God yes! Card technology is supposed to be the best thing to ever hit the coin laundry industry! Manufacturers are trying to sell these things left and right. No more quarters to count! Collect your cash in less than 2 minutes! No more stringing your changer! No more cash refunds! Greater attendant accountability! Easier to do incremental pricing and run specials! On and on and on...
Then you look at your Hispanic and lower income, poorly educated, government asisted customers and think "There's no way on God's green earth that these people will be able to understand this." And then you realize that a lot of your customers are once a year comforter washers, and they are not going to pay $3.00 for a card and then have to put more money on the card just to wash 1 comforter. And then you find out that to retrofit a machine from coin to card costs about $300 per machine, plus cabling, plus a cpu, plus a card dispenser/value add machine, plus the cards themselves.
No thanks, I'll stick to quarters for now... LOL!
-ph
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Post# 1908-6/18/2001-16:41 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Sad news
MESSAGE: Luigi, I'm so happy for you getting your new apartment. I know how "small" apartments are for y'all so this opportunity is one you can't pass up. I'm still saddened I won't get to meet you.
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Post# 1909-6/18/2001-16:42 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: GE Kitchen Center on Ebay
MESSAGE: This is quite beautiful, Robbytuck had posted it on the other club. Greg, you may be especially interested in this. I know you spoke of your parents looking at a home that had one of these.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewItem&item=1438288841+
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Post# 1910-6/18/2001-16:44 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD - Nice Hairdo Scott!
MESSAGE: I like that picture too Greg! I thought my hair turned out quite nice that week too! :)
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Post# 1911-6/18/2001-16:52 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Kitchen Center on Ebay (Nice Kitchen)
MESSAGE: I like the color scheme Scott. Harder for me to follow posts now because my home computer just fried. Well anyway I have to squeeze it in in work anyway. Talk to you soon.
Peter
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Post# 1912-6/18/2001-18:05 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Satruday Cybershow (But we had to Greg)
MESSAGE: But Greg, we just had to pull the boot off of that GEFrigmore washer in the middle of Home Depot, how else could we see how it's held in place?
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Post# 1913-6/18/2001-18:08 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: hotpoint w/d
MESSAGE: No Rich, this 1957 model was Hotpoint's very own design. They didn't start using the GE combo for a few years yet.
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Post# 1914-6/18/2001-18:09 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Sad news
MESSAGE: Oh, I'm really disapointed Louis, but we certainly understand, you'll have to come and visit us another time.
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Post# 1915-6/18/2001-19:08 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Kitchen Center on Ebay
MESSAGE: If it were only closer! This is the exact same unit that we saw in a house my parents looked at 14 years ago. I wanted that house in the worst way! The one we saw had the GE cabinet refrigerator above a counter in an "L" shape. The 2nd counter was perpendicular to where the oven ends in this picture. So very, very 50's! My mother's husband was horrified at the "repair bills" that may come with that and the cost of a whole new kitchen when it was no longer feasible to repair this one - silly man!
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Post# 1916-6/18/2001-19:11 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Satruday Cybershow (But we had to Greg)
MESSAGE: It was a GE product, so the repair was covered under their warranty! Couldn't happen to a nicer company....
Not the first machine I've pulled apart in a store - that's probably why I had to sell paint all thru college years at Sears - they knew I'd be naughty in white goods!
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Post# 1917-6/18/2001-19:15 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Sad news
MESSAGE: I'm heartbroken you won't be there - I was really looking forward to seeing your reactions to all the different machines. Given the same choices, I'd do the same as you have though. Our machines will always be here (unless they are replaced by something even more fabulous) and you can come anytime!
Now with a larger palace, you'll have room for more things! Are you positive you can't get appliances in the attic? :-)
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Post# 1918-6/18/2001-19:19 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: 1952 Whirlpool Restoration Completed
MESSAGE: The washer is up and running (it has been for a few days now). I think that Surgilator agitator is pretty rough on the clothes, certainly gets them clean though. Here are the finished restoration pictures.
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/whirlpool525/lst?&.dir=/1952+Whirlpool+Restoration+Part+1&.src=ph&.begin=9999&.view=t&.order=&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/whirlpool525/lst%3f%26.dir=/1952%2bWhirlpool%2bRestoration%2bPart%2b1%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 1919-6/18/2001-19:21 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: A Now for my Next Project
MESSAGE: We'll I'm putting down a new basement floor, and yes you know what that means, moving all those machines! Wish me luck, after 18 hours of hard labor, I'm exhaused. I have the north side finished. The glue needs to dry for three days before I wax the floor and move all the machines over to the other side so I can do the south side. No I can rest, YAY.
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/miscbrands00/lst?&.dir=/New+Basement+Floor&.src=ph&.view=t&.last=1
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Post# 1920-6/18/2001-19:28 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: A Now for my Next Project (Beautiful!)
MESSAGE: Even better than I'd expected! What a difference it makes to have a "finished" look down there!
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Post# 1921-6/18/2001-19:33 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A Now for my Next Project
MESSAGE: That is really turning out sharp; even nicer than I realized it would in my head. It really complements the nice way you've painted the walls, and when all the machines are back in place it will look fabulous.
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Post# 1922-6/18/2001-19:34 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1952 Whirlpool Restoration Completed
MESSAGE: YAY.
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Post# 1923-6/18/2001-20:39 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: 1952 Whirlpool Restoration Completed (another fabulous job!)
MESSAGE: Congrats Robert! You've done it again! Another fabulous vintage washer reborn!
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Post# 1924-6/18/2001-20:43 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: A Now for my Next Project (more fab)
MESSAGE: Another fabulous restoration!!!
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Post# 1925-6/18/2001-21:00 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: What happened? (Sattilite chip)
MESSAGE: Hi Peter;
You are too funny! They just opened a mega 24 hour mat in Wiiliamsburg Brooklyn a few blocks from my house. What a nice place I had to wash a comforter there just to check it out. I work at night, so on my night off I went there about 1:00am in the morning to see who was there! Alot of people were there; I was very suprised! Air conditioned, 4 or 5 Tv's set around, alot 50 - 60 machines all Wascomat emerald series, various sizes; some were in spanish and some in English! I used the spanish one for a laugh! Lava Manchando was one of the options! (LOL) I also had to find out how to get and use the card; my god a little asian lady attendant tried to help me (LOL) she told me only one dollar at time, and then put the card in the machine and press start! WOW what a night! Had to stand on a step stool to find 1 - 2 - 3 on the dispensers! Very interesting though! I also used the extractor! I went home and put it on the clothes line to dry. So glad I have my own machines! I'd rather use coins also! Have a great night!
"Brooklyn Robert"
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Post# 1926-6/18/2001-21:10 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: A Now for my Next Project
MESSAGE: Robert the floor is too cool. Perfect color choices and pattern. Can't wait to see it all back together again. Excellent job on the '52 KM. It looks great!
Todd
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Post# 1927-6/18/2001-21:12 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A Now for my Next Project
MESSAGE: Thanks Guys, its a lot of work but it will be worth it in the end.
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Post# 1928-6/18/2001-21:15 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Kitchen Center on Ebay
MESSAGE: Wow is that ever cool!
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Post# 1929-6/18/2001-21:18 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: 1952 Whirlpool Restoration Completed
MESSAGE: Hi Robert;
The Whirlpool is so nice and as always you did a real great job. Good luck with it! I need to find one like that for my small collection! I am putting a new basket in my Whirlpool Mark II next week. It rusted under the surgilator where the two rubber stoppers are. It was a bad enamel job from the begining or what ever cheap crap they used to make that tub is made of. But after 17 years and it's a belt driven, electronic; lets keep it going also! This is the first thing I put into this machine and it really owes me nothing. I purchased it new in 1984. I called the cooline they are shipping all the parts UPS, very hard to find parts dealer in Broklyn these days, It's funny that I have the RCA Whirlpool all these years and no rust on that machine at all! Better quality! Anyway; I really think your Whirlpool is great and so are you!
Have a great night!
"Brooklyn Robert"
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Post# 1930-6/18/2001-21:21 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1952 Whirlpool Restoration Completed
MESSAGE: We'll Thanks Robert for your kind words. The Whirlpool sounds great now, its much quieter than before and no more jumping out of gear!
By the way how much does a new spin basket cost?
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Post# 1931-6/18/2001-21:26 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Detergent Logos!!
MESSAGE: How fun - this site just gets better and better all the time!
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Post# 1932-6/18/2001-21:26 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Detergent Logos!!
MESSAGE: Dash!
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Post# 1933-6/18/2001-21:37 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: 1952 Whirlpool Restoration Completed
MESSAGE: Hi Robert;
I had to order the basket (in white), the two rubber stoppers, and I also order a new snubber and spring and just in case a new spanner nut. That came to around $160.00 with the UPS shipping. That was around 1:00pm this afternoon. Then when I started to look at the machine I discovered that the fliter ring has clips that have to be replaced when it's removed from the old tub and placed on the new one. So I called them back and asked if a new filter ring would be attched to the new basket (LOL) Silly me, I also ordered a new fliter ring and clips later that afternoon so another $36.00. and will be shipped as a new order couldn't combine! Well, I hope I have everthing. I hate to start something then have to go out and get something else!
"Brooklyn Robert"
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Post# 1934-6/18/2001-22:57 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: A Now for my Next Project (Looks Great Robert)
MESSAGE: Hi Robert, Boy you are going to have that basement looking sharp for the convention!! The floor really looks great. Talk about alot of work.... I hope you had some good help to move all the machines. Another fantastic job on the Whirlpool!!!!!! Terry
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Post# 1935-6/18/2001-00:01 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: 1952 Whirlpool Restoration Completed
MESSAGE: Looks wonderful Robert!!
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Post# 1936-6/18/2001-00:05 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: A Now for my Next Project
MESSAGE: The floor looks great Robert. When I add the new room onto the house for appliance playland I'm going to put the same type of tile down. Now I just have to pick the color.
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Post# 1937-6/18/2001-01:30 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: New photos online (NEC/ Daewoo make these machines)
MESSAGE: Hi Chester Mike and every one else. These machines are fairly common in Australia, in the late 70's early 80's, almost everyone offered a compact machine like this, and larger ones too. Westinghouse and Whirlpool had models that were imported in Japan, much more fully featured than the Haier illustrated.
There were also models by Hitachi and National Panasonic.
These days Hitachi Samsung and LG both use this kind of agitator (usually called a pulsator or impeller). Nec models which are manufacured by Daewoo in Korea are the models that feature "air injection"
The models we get in australia range from a compact 4kg capacity ( about 8 lbs ) to 9.5kg ( about 18 lb, forgive me I am of the metric generation ) I doubt that you would actually fit 9 kilos of washing in. Infact I think it would take a couple of weeks to get that much washing, and when you separate whites from colours etc. But claimed capacities are getting wildly outrageous in Australia and US models are not innocent of this ridiculous behaviour either.
LINK: http://www.nec.com.au/he/WASHING.htm
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Post# 1938-6/19/2001-03:19 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: 1952 Whirlpool Restoration Completed (Starting Point)
MESSAGE: Robert
Great to see another machine returned to washer life, that top looks realy sparkling, did it need a paint spray or enamel??
Also FAB FLOOR, now come on tell all, "Did You Start In The Middle"??????/
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 1939-6/19/2001-03:34 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: New photos online (Air Wash)
MESSAGE: Hi Arrrooohhh
Thanks for the link, I remember seeing these machines on the web a few years ago and thinking "Thats Different".
I really like the idea of those jets of oxygen mixing with the perborate for a really invigorating wash!!!
It really Pi.... me O.. to see such little water in our European machines,on certain loads of king size damask bed linen, it can take ages for the machine to fill and soak the fabric right through to the middle of the wash!...!...!...
Well thats me well ranted for now...
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 1940-6/19/2001-06:46 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: The Cone sisters' philosophy on art vs people
MESSAGE: The Cone sisters were from a wealthy family in Baltimore. They lived in Paris, were friends with Gertrude Stein, and collected art. Their collection forms a large portion of the Baltimore Museum of Art's modern art collection. Jason wanted a copy of this so I am posting it for him and anyone else who might be interested. Tom
"On the whole I find things so much more satisfactory than people," Claribel wrote to Etta. "People are interesting but you cannot live with them as satisfactorily as with things--things are soothing--if they are works of art--most people are over-stimulating.
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Post# 1941-6/19/2001-07:18 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: A Now for my Next Project
MESSAGE: Robert, I love the new floor, particularly the colors. With the pink & turq walls, almost reminiscent of psychadellic 60s.
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Post# 1942-6/19/2001-08:14 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: A Now for my Next Project (Project)
MESSAGE: Hi Robert,
Both the Whrlpool & the new basement will be awsome. I wish I was able to go to the convention. Well anyway next year.
Best of Luck
Peter
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Post# 1943-6/19/2001-08:21 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: New Washers
MESSAGE: The true test will be when they offer them in commercial machines. TT
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Post# 1944-6/19/2001-08:40 ||| worldtravler (Detroit/Ypsilanti, MI)
SUBJECT: back in applianceville
MESSAGE: Hey guys! I had posted a few times last fall under the handle SouthernQueTee on the Yahoo site but lost touch shortly thereafter. This is such an awesome site...all your hard work and effort has payed off Uni. I just "refound" you guys last night so I have a lot to catch up on with posts and pictures!
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Post# 1945-6/19/2001-08:42 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: New Washers
MESSAGE: And this is based on your personal use, Peter? I am not trying to sell anyone a Calypso or anything else, but I find it hard to put up with people offering perceptions on how the machine works/washes without having used it. It is like anything new. There are people who do not understand how something so radical can work, so they offer all sorts of ideas on why they feel it can't. The people we have talked with who have used them for children's play clothes and husband's work/gardening clothes said that they would not go back to any other type of washer. And I am sure that when CU tested the Calypso's washing action they used the same type of soil for all the machines when they rated it the top cleaner. Alco's new employee Ryan gets his work clothes really dirty and his mom's Calypso cleans them fine. Tom
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Post# 1946-6/19/2001-08:50 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Sunbeam Coffeemaster
MESSAGE: Louis, Mr. Coffee is a filter drip coffeemaker. It was one of the first broadly marketed of this type. The brewing cone that holds the filter is white plastic very similar to polyethelene which does stain from the coffee, expecially if not washed in the dishwasher. However, before the Mr. Coffee, Americans largely used electric and stovetop percolators which are not really known for much except violating most coffee brewing guidelines. Tom
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Post# 1947-6/19/2001-08:51 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Coffeemaster - Mr. Coffee
MESSAGE: Sorta like with the Kenmore washers that shook a lot, right Scott? TT
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Post# 1948-6/19/2001-08:55 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1952 Whirlpool Restoration Completed (Starting Point)
MESSAGE: Hi Mike, yes I actually did start in the middle! All the instructions I read, did say to start in the middle too, everyone was right.
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Post# 1949-6/19/2001-08:55 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Coffeemaster - Mr. Coffee (I know that filter)
MESSAGE: 50 cycles should not affect a heating element, only motors. TT
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Post# 1950-6/19/2001-08:59 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: back in applianceville
MESSAGE: Hello Darrin, welcome back to the club.
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Post# 1951-6/19/2001-09:06 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: hotpoint w/d
MESSAGE: It was not the GE because it spun at 365RPM according to the literature. It was only marketed for one year and has to be among the rarest of combos. I have a sneaking suspicion that it was withdrawn for some sort of patent infringement, that or they never were able to make it work as configured. TT
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Post# 1952-6/19/2001-09:08 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A Now for my Next Project (by my little self)
MESSAGE: Thanks Terry, the help I have is an appliance dolly. I learned long ago that with this hobby, if you want to keep your friends, you need to figure out how to move these heavy objects all by yourself.
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Post# 1953-6/19/2001-09:09 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Sad news
MESSAGE: Louis, sorry that you won't be able to be at the convention, but glad that you are moving up in the building, if not the world and gaining twice the space too! Tom
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Post# 1954-6/19/2001-09:16 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: A Now for my Next Project
MESSAGE: After 18 hours of hard labor did the doctor say if you were ready to push yet? TT
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Post# 1955-6/19/2001-09:34 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: A Now for my Next Project (is this your first LOL )
MESSAGE: or have you been trying to have one for a long time ... man what a sick mind this morning
nice job on both the whirlpool and the tile ... and yes If you want to keep friends a hand truck does the trick now
keep washing
Wet
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Post# 1956-6/19/2001-10:44 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The Cone sisters' philosophy on art vs people
MESSAGE: Claribel was a very wise lady, indeed! Scott
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Post# 1957-6/19/2001-10:47 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: back in applianceville
MESSAGE: I remember when you posted before! Welcome back! This really is a wonderful place to explore and chat! Now, you can "travel" even when you're not!
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Post# 1958-6/19/2001-10:51 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New Washers
MESSAGE: Tom, I don't have any experience with the Calypso machines myself, but my thought is that its probably a matter of learning about and getting acquainted with the different way in which it works and perhaps the different way it is to be used, kind of like loading a Frigidaire to minimize tangling. There have been complaints about washing results on the appliance forum, but other users have often come back to state that folks weren't using the right detergent and a variety of other things. Now that that pump issue seems to have died down, the people that are happy with these machines truly do seem happy with them. S
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Post# 1959-6/19/2001-10:54 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Coffeemaster - Mr. Coffee
MESSAGE: Right! If only I had known you when I had mine and could have solved the problem. My former roommate had a coupler replaced on the machine and that repairman was apparently knowledgeable enough and he got the machine much more stable even though it sits on a carpeted floor over wood (when the complex redoes carpeting now, they put tile in the laundry areas instead which people like better) Brooklyn Robert has two of them (one is a Roper) and he says he gets little to no spin vibration.
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Post# 1960-6/19/2001-11:42 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Sad news (Thanx!)
MESSAGE: Thank you all for understanding and the best wishes for the new house. Í'll visit the US as soon as I can. Louis
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Post# 1961-6/19/2001-11:54 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Sad news
MESSAGE: I haven't seen the attic itself, I'm told it's quite big, but there is only a very small trapdoor in the ceiling on the third floor to the attic with a loose ladder.
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Post# 1962-6/19/2001-11:54 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: 1952 Whirlpool Restoration Completed
MESSAGE: Darn, I'm missing all this wonderful stuff!
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Post# 1963-6/19/2001-12:02 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: A Now for my Next Project
MESSAGE: Very cool floor!!!
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Post# 1964-6/19/2001-12:19 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Coffeemaster - Mr. Coffee (I know that filter)
MESSAGE: Hush! Greg hasn't discovered that yet!!
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Post# 1965-6/19/2001-14:14 ||| rapidry1000 (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: RE: A Now for my Next Project (New Basement Flooring and Whirlpool restoration)
MESSAGE: Robert:
Great looking floor- very reminiscent of the 50's color scheme.
Enjoyed looking at your Whirlpool restoration project. Can I ask what brand gas water heater you have and does it handle all your hot water needs when the machines are running?
Also this morning there was an open house for a house for sale and in the basement was a 70's Frigidaire commercial solid tub coin operated washer in the basement with a window lid and jet cone agitator. Any suggestions as to how to approach someone selling the house as to whether they would be willing to sell the washer? The realtor was too busy chatting with the other realtors since it was a broker's open house. It's pretty rare to find a Frigidaire product in San Francisco. Practically all the dealers quit selling Frigidaire products in the early 70's.
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Post# 1966-6/19/2001-15:59 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: The Cone sisters' philosophy on art vs people
MESSAGE: Hi Tom
There is a lot of truth to that philosophy...especially when one considers that washing machines are "things"...
Rich
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Post# 1967-6/19/2001-16:01 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: The Cone sisters' philosophy on art vs people
MESSAGE: Ya got that right!!
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Post# 1968-6/19/2001-23:51 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Finally! New Laundry Room Done
MESSAGE: After a month and a half, the long awaited and much needed space is completed and the machines are in! I posted a few photos of the process, which took way longer than anticipated, but it was worth the wait. Even the RCA WP/WP washer that had been waiting patiently in the garage was able to move inside and run a "cleanout" cycle with hot water. Still a few things to detail clean, but we're washing away!
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/surgilator/lst?&.dir=/New+Laundry+Room&.src=ph&.view=t&.last=1
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Post# 1969-6/19/2001-23:58 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Coffeemaster - Mr. Coffee (I know that filter)
MESSAGE: I already knew that - just figured you were putting off a CARE package of horrid American culture! I'll be watching at the sales for your new Mr. Coffee......beware!
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Post# 1970-6/19/2001-00:01 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: A Now for my Next Project (New Basement Flooring and Whirlpool restoration)
MESSAGE: Just go knock on the door - you'd be surprised how often that works. You can always leave your name and number if they decide to get rid of it when they move.
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Post# 1971-6/19/2001-00:44 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: New photos online (what do you prefer?)
MESSAGE: I am not sure about the air bubble machines. According to a consumer report, they washed very well, but used a lot of water, significantly more than other pulsator/impeller machines.
If you lived in Australia with a choice of front and top loading machines what would you choose? Would you still go front loading. I think it makes sence as we are a dry country and we should be more responsible with water, esp. in rural areas. I cant understand though, front loaders are already efficient and you do need water to wash properly. Do normal loads wet down well or just heavy loads? How about dampening the load before you put it in the machine? WOuld that help?
Do some models have a button for increasing the water level, I think Bosch machines do.
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Post# 1972-6/19/2001-00:50 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Finally! New Laundry Room Done (I Looks Great!!!)
MESSAGE: Greg, the new laundry room looks just beautiful. You did a fantastic job, I'll can't wait to come down and see it in person. So where to expand next? Living Room?
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Post# 1973-6/19/2001-00:50 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: New Washers
MESSAGE: I am really proud to see Fisher and Paykel making an impact on the US market and elsewhere. Eben though they are so common here that I am sick of them. The High spin speeds have seen Simpson and Hoover offer 800 and 900 rpm spin speeds where as before they were around the 600/700 rpm mark.
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Post# 1974-6/19/2001-00:51 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Finally! New Laundry Room Done (I Looks Great!!!)
MESSAGE: Looking good!!
I would like a front loader in my living room. I would rather watch the cotton cycle that boring and stupid shows like Ally McBeal and Big Brother!!!
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Post# 1975-6/19/2001-00:53 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: New Washers (Why not give it a go?)
MESSAGE: Sears seems to have a very liberal policy so why not give the calypso a go and if you dont like it return it for an atlantis?
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Post# 1976-6/19/2001-00:55 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A Now for my Next Project (1963 Hotpoint Catch)
MESSAGE: Here is what I did to get the 1963 Hotpoint (that Greg has now). I went to an estate sale at this house in NE Minneapolis and there was the beautiful Hotpoint washer. They refused to sell me the machine even though I offered up to $150, they said it was to be sold with the house. So I kept watch on that house and within a week it was sold. I found out that they were closing in a month, so I returned a few days after the closing, I was planning on knocking on the door and asking the new owners if they would be interested in selling the "old washer". Before I went up to the front door, I thought just for the heck of it let me drive in the alley behind the house and sure enough there sat the Hotpoint, waiting for trash collection. I quickly popped the machine in the back of the Jeep (wearing dark sunglasses of course) and the rest is history. $150 offer turned into a free machine!
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Post# 1977-6/19/2001-01:08 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A Now for my Next Project (New Basement Flooring and Whirlpool restoration)
MESSAGE: Oh I forgot to add about the water heater James. The brand is US Water Heater Company (which I never heard of before). Its fine for my hot water needs, because its rare that I run more than three washers at once, and not all of them would be hot water washes. While I have 22 washers hooked up I certainly couldn't run all at once because I could overload the drain or 100amp electrical service pretty quickly. My max is usually 4, but normally its one or two at a time. Besides, I really enjoy using the machines, so running too many at once would be sensory overload.
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Post# 1978-6/19/2001-01:10 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Looked at appliances this morning (I know this was a long time ago... I have had isp problems)
MESSAGE: And I have been busy catching up on the posts.
Kleenmaid quite proudly proclaims that the machine is manufactured by speed queen. Also too our Maytags and Whirlpools are the same as the US models, it just takes sometime for new ranges to arrive here. The only difference may be graphics on the control panels and thats about it.
LINK: www.kleenmaid.com.au
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Post# 1979-6/19/2001-01:15 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A Now for my Next Project (1963 Hotpoint Catch)
MESSAGE: Interesting...no new posts were showing up then about ten showed up all at once, 2 hours after the fact!
That is a great story about the Hotpoint. I had not known that part before. I thought you just went to the sale and bought it.
Gives a person pause though...to wonder how many of all these "not for sale" machines we see actually stay in the house and continue in use....
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Post# 1980-6/19/2001-01:15 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Finally! New Laundry Room Done
MESSAGE: Greg, it turned out really nice! :)
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Post# 1981-6/20/2001-03:45 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: Great pic. of the day!
MESSAGE: I really like the picture of the day it's great! I also have run four washers a one time with out running out of hot water. I let each one fill up and start before starting another. Once in a while they will all reach the rinse at one time so the water pressue does drop a little. I have an AO Smith (gas hot water heater, 60 gallon). As far as the drain all my machines drain into a double laundry tub (two drain hoses on one side two on the other. It's a vintage tub I got at an antique store, it very different the overflow between the two sections drains down in stead of flowing from one side to another, it has a three way darin.
"Brooklyn Robert"
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Post# 1982-6/20/2001-06:04 ||| mooney6au (Sydney, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: 1952 Whirlpool Restoration Completed
MESSAGE: Robert,
Thanks for such an explicit run through the restoration of the 1952 Whirlpool - it was terrifically interesting.
Greg
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Post# 1983-6/20/2001-06:26 ||| mooney6au (Sydney, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: New photos online (Front loaders)
MESSAGE: Hi from Greg down under,
You don't need to damp down washing in a front loader. My Miele turns rather slowly for the first few minutes to thoroughly wet up the washing, letting in more water as it is absorbed by the fabric. The water level is still low and you almost cant see it through the glass. I think that one reason they wash so well is that the detergent is quite concentrated and the clothes are moving constantly through it. You dont have to drown clothes in 60 litres of water to get them clean. After draining they spin the clothes well between both washing and rinsing cycels thereby ensuring that all of the rinses are very effective. Finally with a spin of 1600rpm there isn't a lot of moisture left to either dry on the line or in the dryer.
I have just returned from a business trip which included San Francisco where I stayed with a friend. I did some laundry in a relatively new GE top loader. What a piece of junk. The clothes hardly seemed to move throughout the deep bowl (yes I had to figure out how to hold down the button). I suspect the clothes at the bottom were being ripped about and those at the top just got wet. And after spinning the clothes were barely dryer than with hand wringing!!
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Post# 1984-6/20/2001-07:00 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: New photos online (Economy v Premium)
MESSAGE: Given all the eco factors I would still prefer a front loader.
The Zanussi machines excel at getting the water fill to the correct level quickly by using the JetSystem, the Jet above the door pumps wash & rinse water and directly to the center of the drum. A lot of these machines are now boasting water usage down to 49litrs for a full wash (including rinses)thats great for eco values.
Quite a few machines like Whirlpool, Bosch, Asko etc now have an intensive rinse button as standard because of so many complaints of sensitive skin allegies etc.
I`m still on a nostalgia trip seeing my grans big toploader fill with water then switch on, then pour in the powder to disolve and then add the clothes!!!
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 1985-6/20/2001-07:04 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Finally! New Laundry Room Done (Bendix Ahoy)
MESSAGE: Greg
Congratulations on the new "Wash Room".
Is the Bendix in working order??
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 1986-6/20/2001-07:20 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Finally! New Laundry Room Done (Bendix Pictures)
MESSAGE: All of the Bendix machines are working - here's a link to the pictures of the machines. If you click on "Album List" in the upper right corner, there are more pics of the Bendix Economat. Although I have more space, I don't think I'll have room to hook up the little Bendix f/l right now. With the Westinghouse and Speed Queen sets to come down, there won't be room - besides, it's a pitiful performer.
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Post# 1987-6/20/2001-07:21 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Finally! New Laundry Room Done (Bendix Pictures)
MESSAGE: Oh yeah, the link :-)
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1?d&.flabel=fld4&.src=ph
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Post# 1988-6/20/2001-07:29 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: New photos online (Friends don't let friends buy GE!)
MESSAGE: Isn't that new GE machine a fright? I can't even imagine how disgusted you must have been, especially being a front load Miele user. The wicked agitation, neutral drain, no spin-spray rinses and the "slow" spin speed (which is average by American standards) would have been enough to swear off GE forever!
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Post# 1989-6/20/2001-08:15 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Looked at appliances this morning (I know this was a long time ago... I have had isp problems)
MESSAGE: It will be interesting to see what happens with the Amana (& Kleenmaid) machines now that Maytag has aquired them. Thanks for the link - I had seen the Kleenmaid site some time ago and it's interesting to see the panel design changes again.
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Post# 1990-6/20/2001-08:26 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Finally! New Laundry Room Done (New Laundry Rm)
MESSAGE: Greg - The new laundry room is great
Peter
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Post# 1991-6/20/2001-08:33 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: The Cone sisters' philosophy on art vs people
MESSAGE: And many are "works of art" also, at least in their collector's mind. TT
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Post# 1992-6/20/2001-08:42 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Finally! New Laundry Room Done
MESSAGE: Just Beautiful, Greg. Tom
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Post# 1993-6/20/2001-09:12 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: A Now for my Next Project (slow server)
MESSAGE: I was on AOL last night, and I was getting server errors when trying to read posts. Just now (10:10am), I'm getting the same errors here at work when I try to click on ARROOHH's link. The error reads something like (URL) is not available on this server...
-ph
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Post# 1994-6/20/2001-09:22 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Finally! New Laundry Room Done (bad link?)
MESSAGE: I can get to Greg's photos no problem from his posted link, but AARROOH's has this error:
Not Found
The requested URL /NEW DISCUSS/DISCUSSION POSTS/www.kleenmaid.com.au was not found on this server.
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Apache/1.3.12 Server at classicappliances.com Port 80
-ph
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Post# 1995-6/20/2001-10:53 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Finally! New Laundry Room Done (beautiful job)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg, Your new laundry room looks really nice. You did a great job. Terry
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Post# 1996-6/20/2001-11:10 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Finally! New Laundry Room Done (New Link to Kleenmaid)
MESSAGE: I'm not sure how the first part got into the link, but it should be www.keenmaid.com.cu, I tried just that portion and it worked. I'll see if I can post a link. This is a very interesting site - I wonder who makes the other appliance lines or if they manufacture them.
Robert told me last night that the ClassicAppliances server was down for a while. They were scrambling to get it back up when he called in the early evening.
LINK: http://www.kleenmaid.com.au
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Post# 1997-6/20/2001-11:11 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Finally! New Laundry Room Done (beautiful job)
MESSAGE: I took flattering pictures, there are slight indiscretions in my construction, but wood has never been my best "medium" for art!
Thanks for the nice comments everyone!
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Post# 1998-6/20/2001-12:10 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Finally! New Laundry Room Done
MESSAGE: Congratulations Greg on the new laundryroom. Does this room include the basement you used before as a laundryroom, or is that still available too. How many washers can you put in now? Louis
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Post# 1999-6/20/2001-12:11 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Coffeemaster - Mr. Coffee (I know that filter)
MESSAGE: Everybody who has my address, PLEEEAAAASSEE don't give it to Greg!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post# 1-9/12/2002-21:50 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Wow. A new Maytag wringer agitator, never used
MESSAGE: wow neat. never thought they would still make those.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2053907641
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Post# 1-9/12/2002-00:19 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: This is odd - no message list...
MESSAGE: They're all gone - oh no!!!
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Post# 1-9/13/2002-07:45 ||| steveriley (sebastian, florida)
SUBJECT: new member delight!
MESSAGE: I am just recently out of the washer closet. for the first time i have viewed the many pictures on this site and am just delighted to see all the many machines i remember from my childhood. someone even mentioned a bendix (rubber tub) squeezer, i remember them well! special thanks to unimatic 1140! Do you ever allow tours of your collection? How do i find out about the conventions? please help a novice out here! many thanks to all of you for all the cool photos! steveriley at jobob885.
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Post# 1-9/13/2002-07:46 ||| steveriley (sebastian, florida)
SUBJECT: new member delight!
MESSAGE: I am just recently out of the washer closet. for the first time i have viewed the many pictures on this site and am just delighted to see all the many machines i remember from my childhood. someone even mentioned a bendix (rubber tub) squeezer, i remember them well! special thanks to unimatic 1140! Do you ever allow tours of your collection? How do i find out about the conventions? please help a novice out here! many thanks to all of you for all the cool photos! steveriley at jobob885.
LINK: unimatic 1140
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Post# 1-9/13/2002-16:57 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: We're Back Up
MESSAGE: Unfortunately the server's full hard drive has also erased our Classified Ads section completely. I don't have a backup of the recent ads, but I will get that system working again later.
One great advantage of the sandbox is we can still communicate even when Applianceville "proper" is down.
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Post# 2-9/13/2002-16:58 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Testing
MESSAGE: This is a test
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Post# 3-9/13/2002-16:59 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco Wash Action
MESSAGE: This is a test