The following are archived forum messages from the original forum of automaticwasher.org referred to as Applianceville from May, 2001 to Sept 2004...
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Post# 2000-6/20/2001-12:18 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
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RE: New photos online (what do you prefer?)
MESSAGE: Arrrooohhh, I'm sure I wouldn't make a choice, I would get both. I prefer the frontloader (a Miele ofcourse) but I find the toploaders more fascinating. Actually I would buy three, a toploading H-axis too.
As for wetting the load, all frontloaders I know don't have any difficulty with that. After the first fill to a certain level, the laundry sucks up water. When the level gets lower the washer starts filling again to the same level again. Some washers have a button for increasing water, my Miele has one too, but it's more for exceptional items or so. Louis
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Post# 2001-6/20/2001-12:27 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
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RE: A Now for my Next Project (slow server)
MESSAGE: Peter, I have that problem now and then too. I sometime get the Not Available message over and over. I had the impression that it was my provider's server. Louis
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Post# 2002-6/20/2001-16:48 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
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RE: Re: Coffeemaster - Mr. Coffee (I know that filter)
MESSAGE: I have your address already - I sent you the Maytag tape....
Hahahaha (evil laugh)
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Post# 2003-6/20/2001-16:56 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
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RE: Finally! New Laundry Room Done
MESSAGE: I still have the other laundry room also - it's nearly empty now - only 3 machines left in there now. Since it's population is down and I have most everything I need to paint and install shelves, I'm going to do that right now before I fill it up with machines again. It's badly in need of paint and "sprucing up" and it will be a lot easier with fewer machines. When all is said and done, I'll have spaces for ten washers and four dryers between the two rooms - I wonder if Skyler will give up space in his play room.....just kidding!
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Post# 2004-6/20/2001-17:12 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
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RE: Finally! New Laundry Room Done
MESSAGE: Greg, face the music: the play room and the sewing room eventually have got to GO. You will NEED the space!!! ;-) LOL
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Post# 2005-6/20/2001-18:13 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
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RE: Finally! New Laundry Room Done
MESSAGE: A new 2 car garage built on the front of the existing garage would give a 25x25' space for a grand washroom!
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Post# 2006-6/20/2001-18:25 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
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RE: Finally! New Laundry Room Done
MESSAGE: That sounds like a wonderful idea! And you'd have less driveway to shovel too!
I have been meaning to call you and tomorrow I'm leaving town, so I will for sure next week or Sunday night! Scott
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Post# 2007-6/20/2001-23:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
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Vintage Washer and Dryer on Ebay - such a bargain!!
MESSAGE: Shipping is a pain, but look at the slant-front set on Ebay!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1158263670
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Post# 2008-6/20/2001-01:36 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
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Off to Portland-Have a good weekend!
MESSAGE: I am off to Portland for my first of two major conventions this summer, that of the Vacuum Cleaner Collector Club. I am looking forward to it very much and pictures will of course be posted on my return. "See" everyone Sunday night! Scott
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Post# 2009-6/21/2001-02:26 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
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RE: Finally! New Laundry Room Done (Collapsable Drum)
MESSAGE: Greg
Is`nt that 47 Bendix just the cutest machine ever,how did you find this beauty??
Is the 52 Economat with Rubber Drum the one referred to as "Collapsable Drum" for water extraction???
Mike
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Post# 2010-6/21/2001-07:07 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
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RE: Off to Portland-Have a good weekend!
MESSAGE: Have a great time Scott!
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Post# 2011-6/21/2001-07:24 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
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RE: Finally! New Laundry Room Done (Collapsable Drum)
MESSAGE: I adore the little round Bendix Standard - it is such a cutie. Several of the club members have them. They aren't the best washer by any means, but for their time in washer history, quite a marvel. I had it hooked up and running, but because of space limitations, it's mostly "ornament" now. The extraction is so poor, I can wring more water out by hand after the cycle has ended.
The Economat is the one with the suction water extraction - I have the service manual for that machine and should post the tips for use. It's a fine agitation machine, but the extraction performance is comparable to the Bendix "S." I would still rather have either of these machines versus a wringer washer, which explains their popularity in their day. Have you read the Consumer Reports & Consumer Research Bulletin on these machines that Robert posted here? It's quite interesting.
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Post# 2012-6/21/2001-07:26 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
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New Whirlmore FLer
MESSAGE: It's reality. It's on thathomesite.com's appliance forum under front loading washers. Sears is taking orders. Whirlpool's version set for September. Internal heater that heats to 150 degrees, pump screen, a prewash dispenser compartment, HAS A WINDOW, THE DRYER HAS A WINDOW, supposedly has a 5 degree angle, ... Pardon me while I have a cigarette.
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Post# 2013-6/21/2001-09:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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RE: Vintage Washer and Dryer on Ebay - such a bargain!! (Wow)
MESSAGE: Wow, those are pretty nice looking.
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Post# 2014-6/21/2001-09:05 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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Picture of the Day
MESSAGE: We'll I knew this was going to happen sooner or later, because it happened once during the test phase before we "went live" with Applianceville. The POTD picked the same picture two days in a row! At some point I will figure out a way of preventing that from happening.
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Post# 2015-6/21/2001-11:07 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
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RE: Re: Coffeemaster - Mr. Coffee (I know that filter)
MESSAGE: And I hope to move soon! Hahaha (even more evil laugh)
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Post# 2016-6/21/2001-11:08 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
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We had ??
MESSAGE: Yesterday we had some stuff fall from the sky. I think it is rain but I am not sure as I have not seen any since last October.
The last pic is of one of the plants Tom gave me. It is finally blooming, along with a few of the other ones.
LINK: http://web.tampabay.rr.com/jasonspages/firstrain.html
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Post# 2017-6/21/2001-11:08 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
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RE: Finally! New Laundry Room Done
MESSAGE: Time to build a front porch, just give a southern styly to your northern house.
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Post# 2018-6/21/2001-11:10 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
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RE: Finally! New Laundry Room Done
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, have a sage trip.
QLOTOC
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Post# 2019-6/21/2001-11:16 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
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RE: New Whirlmore FLer
MESSAGE: Bob,
Have you already seen it? I read it to on the appliance forum (now gardenweb), but didn't know what to think about it. I went to the Sears site, but couldn't find it there.
Luigi
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Post# 2020-6/21/2001-11:20 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
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RE: We had ??
MESSAGE: Yes, that is rain, we had a lot of that lately. Nice flower, what's the name?
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Post# 2021-6/21/2001-11:21 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
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RE: Finally! New Laundry Room Done
MESSAGE: Forgive me Your Majesty, I meant ofcourse a safe trip!
QLOTOC
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Post# 2022-6/21/2001-11:31 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
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RE: We had ??
MESSAGE: Jason, Congratulations on the arrival of your monsoon. The rain looks wonderful. Did you have lots of lightning and thunder? Ilove them. Sorry you can't smell the crinadonna flowers. The perfume is amazingly strong. Maybe one will still be blooming when your sinus infection clears up. If you can't smell it then, you will have to wait til you stop shmokin'. Thanks for the pics. Tom
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Post# 2023-6/21/2001-11:39 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
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RE: We had ??
MESSAGE: Louis, thanks for liking the flower. It is tropical bulb called a crinadonna. I got tired of keeping them in pots and taking them outside in the late spring and then back inside in the fall, so I took some to Jason and the rest to my sister. They will do all right outside in Florida. I kept my giant crinum which has a bulb about the size of a basketball. It lives in a huge pot and is taller than I. TT
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Post# 2024-6/21/2001-11:43 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
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RE: We had ??
MESSAGE: Thanks Tom. The road and my side yard looked like a river.
Carl can smell the flower and he says it smells good. I'll snap a few picts of the one in the back yard. It is larger than the one in the front and probablly smell like Gain or Downey being the wash water goes into the flower bed.
Jason
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Post# 2025-6/21/2001-12:15 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
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RE: New Whirlmore FLer
MESSAGE: Louis, no not seen anything beyond what's been posted. It will probably be a while before Sears put anything on the web site, not until official announcement. That will mark the 1-year anniversary of the Calypso & the new Elite dishwasher series showing up on the web site. So, it'll be time for new material.
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Post# 2026-6/21/2001-12:18 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
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RE: New Whirlmore FLer (Is that right????)
MESSAGE: You got to be kidding. We're going to finally see a front loading washer?? From WHIRLPOOL?!?!?!?!?!??? It's going to have an internal heater?? A pump screen?? A "prewash" detergent dispenser compartment in addition to the "regular" detergent dispenser?? And a WINDOW?!?!?!?!?????? WOW, it's about time Whirlpool has come to their senses. I mean, this is got to be a dream or something. A F/Ler?? From WHIRLPOOL (nonetheless)??????!?!?!?!?!?????
One more thing, will it have the "stainless steel" drums like the "Frigidaire" Kenmores have?? And what kind of controls will these new Whirlpools have, mechanical or electronic??
Please wake me if you can, Bob. I must be dreaming. That news has made my day. A F/L Washer, from Whirlpool. Now picture that shit.
--Charles--
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Post# 2027-6/21/2001-12:24 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
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RE: New Whirlmore FLer (Is that right????)
MESSAGE: Why is this news so shocking? I have known about this for some time now and if I remember correctly it was posted to the club a while ago.
J
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Post# 2028-6/21/2001-12:45 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
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RE: New Whirlmore FLer (Is that right????)
MESSAGE: It shocking because while we have seen HE Washers from the likes of Maytag (with their Neptune), Frigidaire (with their own model as well as those they design for GE, Gibson and then Sears (for THEIR Kenmore model), a start up like Staber hit the seen and imports like F&P making it over here to the states (Miele has been here in the states for years..... and as far as I am concern, they have pioneered the concept), Whirlpool had yet to embrace the concept. Sure, they TRIED to make an attempt by introducing their "Resource Saver" washer, they have NEVER made attempt to either make a F/Ler either here in the states themselves, or at least try to import a couple of their machines over here from Europe (not unless you have go upstate to New York and find one). That's why the news was so shocking to me.
We did make some sort of discussion on THIS machine a while back, but as far as I can remember, no SERIOUS discussion has come of it.
--Charles--
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Post# 2029-6/21/2001-13:28 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
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RE: New Whirlmore FLer (Is that right????)
MESSAGE: Whirlpool owns several European appliance lines and is having the experts over there design and build it, but to US standards of capacity. Why do you feel that Miele has pioneered anything? Certainly not automatic front loaders. They make a good quality machine and charge a lot for it, but they have not really pioneered anything over here. Miele did not make a bigger front loader for the US export market. WP was researching the concept for a long time, way back into the 90s, but the lack of acceptance of FLs in this traditionally TL culture caused WP to try to go with modifications to the TL design. In the meantime, the energy awareness of the country has sharpened and FL washers seem to be considered as a real alternative to TLs. There were only every two real contenders for the FL market here in the 50s and by the 60s it was only WH who kept the FL concept alive here. There was a long stretch when it was very difficult to find a low sudsing detergent outside of Sears for FLs. I don't think WP has done that badly with their timing for introducing this new FL of theirs. They were also smart to not design the thing from the ground up (reinvent the wheel) but build on their knowledge from their European experience. I also think that they are brilliant to realize that with domestic water heaters set so low for safety and energy savings they would need to make a provision for heating the water in the machine, something Neptune only recently came to do and the current Electrolux machines still don't. The dishwasher folks told us how chlorine is being phased out of dw detergents. You almost cannot buy bleach in Europe. I do not know what plans they have for laundry bleach here, but getting people accustomed to the idea of heating the water to get clothes white is smart. TT
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Post# 2030-6/21/2001-16:20 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
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RE: New Whirlmore FLer (Is that right????)
MESSAGE: Maybe it's good to remind here that Whirlpool bought Philips large appliances in the eighties in order to enter the European market. Actually Philips only made H-axis toploaders for quite a few years. Only later they also made frontloaders. Philips is a dutch company, but the large appliances were manufactured in Italy.
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Post# 2031-6/21/2001-16:49 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
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RE: New Whirlmore FLer (Is that right????)
MESSAGE: Good points, Tom:
You are correct. Miele did NOT pioneer the F/L washer concept here in the United States. No, not by a longshot. Here in the states, we have had the Westinghouses and Bendexes to turn to for decades. But while they were the only manufacturers to manufacture the "American" front loader, you have to admit that EVEN the VERY early front loaders tend to use a lot of water, and I might expect the Mieles from that era did the same thing, but I don't know that for certain. But maybe Louis can settle this score here (where are you at Louis??). But what they did do in my opinion was pioneer the art of cleaning clothes effectively using minicue amounts of water by using using a wash drum that turns in both directions, and by using internal heaters to heat the water that is inside the machine to up to 200 degrees (f) (something I know for certain none of the Bendexes (at least the VERY early ones..... and none of the ones I've seen here in America) and Westinghouses have never done). That's something that the Neptunes do today, and to a point, so do the Bosches (at least the ones I looked at here on the "net" a year ago do, as well as the F/L Amana. But the Westinghouses have never done it (heat their own water). Neither did the Bendexes. And you are right, today's Frigidaires (Electrolux) don't do that either. That's what I meant to say earlier.
As far as I know, they don't EVEN use bleach at all over there Europe. But I do like the concept of using heat as opposed to bleach to go getting my whites whiter over here in the United States. But I think in order for that to be effective, I think Whirlpool needs to take a page out of Miele's book and heat the water inside the machine to 200 degrees (f). And the matter about laundry bleach?? Let me just say that as long as we continue to use T/L's here in America, there is ALWAYS going to be a need for laundry bleach. I think that's my $.02 on the bleach subject.
--Charles--
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Post# 2032-6/21/2001-17:28 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
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1-18 belts and Water bellows on 1965
MESSAGE: have two problems that seem to perplex me
1) the belt on my Frigidaire 1-18 is slipping and making the washing tired. Is there an easy way to get this belt off or do I need to take out the pump asembley and motor to slip on the new belt.
2) I have removed the agitator from my custom delux and the nut on top of the water bellow seems to need a special tool or is there a way to get that off
The whirlpool thing ... well I just wish americans could make a washer that heated its own hot water. But I have not seen them either
And maybe Jetcone (I believe said) we should check out patent and bring back some of the older better built machines or at least bring us in as consultants on washers
thanks
Philippe
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Post# 2033-6/21/2001-20:06 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
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New Kenmore fl
MESSAGE: Could this be the the 'new' Kenmore? From the information I read at thathomesite.com and some deductions. I went to Whirlpool's site; then to international; then looked for WP in germany, but found Bauknecht. With the little I remember of German, I searched the site for Waschmaschinen and there I was.
This was the basic model. See the my next post for the deluxe version.
LINK: http://www.bauknecht.de/scripts/ndisapi.dll/bauknecht/frMaster?Main=pgSPG&spg=WASHINGFSFRONTLOAD&sg=WASH&parent=pgMPG&mpg=washmach&highlight=pgSPG&spg=WASHINGFSFRONTLOAD&brand=BK&country=GERMANY&SPIDERSESSION=%3f%3f%3f%3f%3f%5f%3f%3f%3f%40%5b%3f%3f%3f%3fBOs%5cH%3f%3f%3f%3f%3f%3f%3f%3f%3fM%5b%7cdu%60TyprWno%3f%3f%3f%5exGsrccIa%3fxYag%5f%5cEtL%5bFwiUaL%5ePUTqTOPFTspCQskMVS%60IMQ%5fiGC%60NVdgaUah%7dGAgjMP%5c%5ePCx%40RSLsR%5fPDSsXF%5dFX%5bOcPBTS%60%40UBciIA%3f%5fVagx%5bE%7cyXAsj%5dRdoXFdnXV%60xYbcfIa%3f%5fIf%5fxRcC%5bPTWFODOxEsOGCC%7cORp%5b%5eE%40GMFp%7b%40Ts%7cbT%40W%5d%40%40%5cWVfhQPT%60%5dTp%5cnPF%40HOsTLUahBPTHxVDoxIag%5fGAgiMT%3fiQA%40RJvT%5eYaLkGA%3fiIBDOOcXFPsHASBdYGbG%5fVagxTCsKSF%40LZVPSQSH%40OP%5cXRdxDUfO%7cOfOxTs%5bCTSDYVF%5cIQDsM%5beTDVth%5dRs%60JQsPKMQkiGA%3fiIBd%5bQstMSAhJKRCwIa%3f%5fPqh%5bFthlRUtY%5ddxPQtdLTstJ%40CciPs%5b%5fQQdPRdcaOQ%5fiIbcx%5cCG%7cOSHHTCtWUSTlRClJVsTd%5bdSCPt%5cKPClJBdtGQbcgIa%40GRtxYHtgi%5ea%3fiIrdKVcxBSctDYT%7cDXVHT%40C%5cVRCPJQox%5cQCgxIAg%5fQC%7c%5dUa%60AIfw%5fIakxUC%7cWRSp%5dZDPSIclDTFdcVDl%5eMCCgIagxRSpABcT%40QT%5c%5bIdxQOT%60X%5cBciIa%60FIAhIMVPa%3fUCm%5dUxoOu%60cXdhxVd%5cF%40DTNQstTQc%60%5cBfHdPT%7cYVc%7cGQslCRBcjIa%3f%5fIa%5fxVDxWRd%3fiQr%7b%7eRQhOGAgaMV%60%7cWfK
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Post# 2034-6/21/2001-20:09 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
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RE: New Kenmore fl (More.....)
MESSAGE: The deluxe upgraded model.
LINK: http://www.bauknecht.de/scripts/ndisapi.dll/bauknecht/frMaster?Main=pgSPG&spg=WASHINGFSWASHDRYER&sg=WASH&parent=pgMPG&mpg=washmach&highlight=pgSPG&spg=WASHINGFSWASHDRYER&brand=BK&country=GERMANY&SPIDERSESSION=%3f%3f%3f%3f%3f%5f%3f%3f%3f%40%5b%3f%3f%3f%3fBOs%5cH%3f%3f%3f%3f%3f%3f%3f%3f%3fM%5b%7chz%7d%7dyprWno%3f%3f%3f%5ewK%5dt%3fADT%3fTBD%3fD%3fClWLvoMS%3f%7bAWvK%5eWQT%7d%5drlaWBDm%5ea%5ceS%3fwTSF%5fwLVWM%5e%3fxOBT%40ODRxxMrxdKR%5cWGqHaNtwuNTgrXF%3f%7dXqSq%5cD%3fKDTGKSAOTDCd%5b%3fD%7c%5cSPS%5eOdoBVpSAPd%3f%40DT%40%5dSD%3fTLU%5caXeWe%5eV%60wNPS%7d%5ce%3ftWuGxMuGx%5eeSlHEdzEQHeXBka%5dFO%3f%5dBSa%5do%40HMrxbMRd%60LOpuMVga%3fv%40OB%40TOBD%40ODT%3fK%5eBHRGtTrS%3fTED%5fxOS%40svXFo%7bXB%5bw%5eCH%7bDT%5fKSAOTGElw%5cck%3fLt%5fpZv%5fw%5erDlW%5fPb%5ba%40QRR%5fTHUDz%5efgpGDl%7dZeWfWoG%5e%5br%60w%5cbTaMrD%5fS%3fsTS%3fxOS%40S%7dZV%3fvZQ%40OFT%3f%5dFT%3fKSBtoNVorDto%5cGFG%7cZVsbZQ%5bvIB%5bKXRsNSBL%7cKV%7caU%3fpWS%40TLS%60SwZrCw%5dBT%7dWQLlFRXf%3feLrFuCd%5efkzWe%3fpZfwfXd%3fMDT%40wMBTuBfoJS%3ftOS%40Sr%5dE%3fsWqGvPOHb%5bp%7c%60HVxzMuH%5fKUx%7dHuXOB%60TO%5dB%5ft%5c%5fxc%40D%3fLSD%3fTNUdsGcg%7bHF%5ftBF%5fpOaOB%5bBDx%5csGKUD%3fT%5eeh%60ME%7btMvkaBF%3fc%5erCaUD%5fKDT%3fKLtHe%5bTGTED%7bPTCGSXToQVpW%5f%5baT%60%5dvxjNrDx%5eexeHuKAFvKw%5dFWtWbkpWD%3fLDT%3fMSD%3fTNf%60oGes%5fS%40K%5fYpLO%40D%40ODTOFP%3fK
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Post# 2035-6/21/2001-21:10 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
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RE: New Whirlmore FLer (Is that right????)
MESSAGE: My '55 Duomatic has an internal heater activated with the selection of hot water wash. According to the service manual, it's rated at 4000 watts and is activated only during the main wash cycle. With an incoming hot water temp. between 140-160F, it helps to make a nice steamy wash. The heater is not thermostatically controlled, so it is not capable of raising the temperature of cold water by much during a 9-11.5 minute wash time. I rarely experience tangling problems with the Bendix, but in it's defense, it has a relatively large diameter drum which may help.
Most American homes have 30+ gallons of 120-140F available 24 hrs/day in a tank/heater that can keep up with the demands of a water thirsty top loading washer, purchased at a local Sears store for $399 or less. Convincing a culture to change it's laundry "standard" won't be easy. Power and water shortages will make some impact, but most people I know would never spend $1000+ for a washer if there's still an option at the $399 price point.
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Post# 2036-6/21/2001-23:13 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
My Newest Toy
MESSAGE: It's not an appliance, but I thought I'd share.
There are five pictures. Instead of posting each URL on a separate message, they're all listed here. Copy/paste them into your browser.
http://users.wcnet.net/dadoes/i30-1.jpg
http://users.wcnet.net/dadoes/i30-2.jpg
http://users.wcnet.net/dadoes/i30-3.jpg
http://users.wcnet.net/dadoes/i30-4.jpg
http://users.wcnet.net/dadoes/i30-5.jpg (That's my mother in this last picture)
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Post# 2037-6/21/2001-01:45 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
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RE: Vintage Washer and Dryer on Ebay - such a bargain!! (Wow)
MESSAGE: They are nice machines The price is great. I wonder what it would cost to pack and ship something that large and heavy.
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Post# 2038-6/21/2001-01:56 ||| rapidry1000 (San Francisco)
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Sears Whirlmore
MESSAGE: This evening I drove 10 miles outside of San Francisco to the nearest Sears store to see the new Whirlmore front loader. As I was riding the escalator to the second level, I could see the machines displayed as you enter Brand Central. The front cabinet is curved with a large smoke colored round window. The control timer is in the middle and to the right of the timer are two columns of buttons; one for options and another for 5 different spin speed selections.
The timer is a circle of rubber buttons for fabric cycle selections with a start button in the center. The stainless steel tub looks large and easily accessible. The machine is currently only availabe in white and the price is $1,449 plus $50 for delivery and installation. The machine is available with the stand that elevates the machine about 10 inches. It's an additional $150. The machine looks impressive and reminds me of a washer one sees at a laundromat. Saleperson did not have any literature she would give me.
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Post# 2039-6/21/2001-01:56 ||| rapidry1000 (San Francisco)
SUBJECT:
Sears Whirlmore
MESSAGE: This evening I drove 10 miles outside of San Francisco to the nearest Sears store to see the new Whirlmore front loader. As I was riding the escalator to the second level, I could see the machines displayed as you enter Brand Central. The front cabinet is curved with a large smoke colored round window. The control timer is in the middle and to the right of the timer are two columns of buttons; one for options and another for 5 different spin speed selections.
The timer is a circle of rubber buttons for fabric cycle selections with a start button in the center. The stainless steel tub looks large and easily accessible. The machine is currently only availabe in white and the price is $1,449 plus $50 for delivery and installation. The machine is available with the stand that elevates the machine about 10 inches. It's an additional $150. The machine looks impressive and reminds me of a washer one sees at a laundromat. Saleperson did not have any literature she would give me.
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Post# 2040-6/22/2001-06:03 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: My Newest Toy
MESSAGE: Glenn,
Nice wheels. Good luck!
Just one tiny question: HOW ARE YOU EVER GOING TO TOTE A WASHINGMACHINE IN THAT TRUNK???????? {just kidding}
Steve 1-18
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Post# 2041-6/22/2001-06:52 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Whirlmore FLer (Is that right????)
MESSAGE: Why do you think all of these features are Miele's? Commercial laundry equipment in this country dating back to the time of WWII and maybe before used reverse tumbling during washing and rinsing. Because of the lack of central systems for domestic hot water, European machines from all over, not just Miele and not just automatic tumblers, heated their own water. And to show you how opinions have changed, when the early combos offered water heating, the wizzards of wisdom at CU said that it was expensive to heat water in the machine and if hot water supplies were inadequate for the home, it was better to consider a larger water heater than a machine that would heat. And there were Bendix machines that did heat their water. After the introduction of the Duomatic with its 4 kw "Magic Heater" to hold the wash at 140F, Bendix offered the concept in some of the 115 volt washers. It was not as powerful and was not coupled to a timer delay, but it is on the historical record that Bendix offered a washer that heated water. The advances in front loading tumbler washer technology that came in Europe were probably helped, in large measure, by the fact that it was the dominant technology. Europe did not enjoy the large number of agitator-type wringer washers that we had here before WWII so they were not as wedded to this branch of laundry technology. The lack of fuel in Europe after WWII and the resulting need to conserve led manufacturers there to follow the efficient tumbler method used in commercial applications. As for the very early Bendix and WH machines using a great deal of water, they both, from the start instructed users to use half the soap or detergent that they normally would in a top loader. Compared to a wringer washer where you filled the machine once and reused the wash water over and over (and usually the rinse water, too), the first automatics did seem to use a lot more hot water with fresh wash and rinse water for each load, but I don't think you can really compare the water use of these early tumblers with today's because of the way technology has changed. The early machines were washing with soap, not detergents. Soap depended on suds to suspend the soil and was harder to rinse away and needed more water in both stages. Cold water rinsing was almost unheard of until synthetic fabrics came along. And why is it a page out of Miele's book to heat the wash to 200F? This is not a Miele exclusive. "Boiling the whites" is a European laundry process. Even my Creda offers a setting that high. Those machines are on 220 volt circuits, though, and if you remember the discussions about the Amana FL, while heating, it did not tumble and heat simultaneously. There was a minute of heat and a minute of the back and forth tumble. Raising the water temp to 150F in a typical home washer is going to take a good period of time if the water heater is set to 120-130F and you have that water traveling through cold pipes into a cold washer. Raising a load to 200F, even on 220 volts takes a bit of time in the Miele I use. Another thing is that Europeans are used to washing a load of white clothes in a cycle that can take around two hours for the maximum treatment. Americans are not. There are all kinds of considerations to be dealt with over here as opposed to what is done in Europe, such as the factor that over here 115 or 120 volts is the accepted norm for most household wiring and use whereas in Europe it is 220 or 230. I have no idea of what WP is going to offer, but I think faulting it for not being exactly like a European machine in all aspects, or even a Miele, which is not a machine that most people can afford, before seeing anything about its design and performance is a bit prejudicial. Tom
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Post# 2042-6/22/2001-08:14 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: My Newest Toy
MESSAGE: It is a beautiful car - did you buy new? No washer hauling in this baby, that's for sure! Congrats and enjoy - Greg
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Post# 2043-6/22/2001-08:42 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: My Newest Toy (a transportation appliance)
MESSAGE: Congrats Glen. Beautiful car! I bet it's a great ride!
-ph
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Post# 2044-6/22/2001-11:48 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: My Newest Toy
MESSAGE: Yes, it's new. Came off the lot with 7 miles on it.
Even if I could haul washers, I have no room for a collection. :-(
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Post# 2045-6/22/2001-12:21 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Whirlmore FLer (Is that right????)
MESSAGE: Charles,
You are right, my mother's old Miele from 1975 used around 40 gallons. Main reasons were the somewhat higher water levels and the lack of spin cycles after the main wash and between the first three rinses (of five). The newest ones only use around 10 gallons.
BTW, European Whirlpool frontloaders also heat the water up to 200 degrees. Nevertheless I don't think that there are a lot of people who use the highest temperatures for doing their laundry. I wash my whites on 140F and my colors (jeans, t-shirts, socks etc.) on 105F. I never feel the need to choose a higher temperature.
As for bleach, we indeed never use chlorine bleach for laundry, but there are still people who use bleach for other cleaning purposes like cleaning toilets. European detergents contain oxygen bleach.
Louis
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Post# 2046-6/22/2001-12:24 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Kenmore fl (More.....)
MESSAGE: Steve,
On the Appliance Forum they talk about a tilted drum. Until now I have never seen a Bauknecht washer with such a drum. I also do hope that it's not going to be a Bauknecht, for this brand has a bad reputation and I know a few people who never want a Bauknecht ever again.
Louis
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Post# 2047-6/22/2001-12:30 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: My Newest Toy
MESSAGE: Congratulations Glen, very nice car. Silly question though, what is the brand? I don't know a lot about American cars. Louis
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Post# 2048-6/22/2001-12:58 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1-18 belts and Water bellows on 1965 (1-18 belts & Quick Wash question)
MESSAGE: Hi Everyone from beautiful Syracuse New York!
Yes I'm here watching over my Dad who is spending time in ICU and have not been on the ole' website for over a week. My friend Ardrianne, who works at the Newspaper here has lent me her terminal today so I have been catching up.
Can't wait to see that new kenmore F/L!!! I hope it is a little more stylish than the German machine Steve has found.
Something retro perhaps!
Phillippe: 1-18 belts are hard to replace as you have to either break the outer tub seal to drop the tranny or break open the pump and get a new pump seal kit. Pump seal kits were never easy to come by. Instead I would suggest you just tighten the motor adjusting bolts and see if that will cure "weak wash syndrome".
Question or club members:
Does anyone know the earliest GE Filter-Flo that had the "Quick Wash" feature?? I am using my friends' machine out here and I love the Quick Wash!!!! She needs a new top since her's is rusted big time bad.
See everyone soon Jetcone
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Post# 2049-6/22/2001-15:12 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: My Newest Toy
MESSAGE: Louis, it's an Infiniti I30. Infiniti is part of Nissan, the I30 is a sort of upscale Nissan Maxima.
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Post# 2050-6/22/2001-16:27 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1-18 belts and Water bellows on 1965 (1-18 belts & Quick Wash question)
MESSAGE: Jon Charles, my 1978 GE had the MiniQuick cycle. I vaguely remember seeing one in Kmart in 1974 that also had MiniQuick. Before that, I'm not sure. I saw mentioned yesterday the Whirlpool version of the FLer will not only be available in the 3 basic colors, but also some sort of pastels.
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Post# 2051-6/22/2001-16:47 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1-18 belts and Water bellows on 1965 (1-18 belts & Quick Wash question)
MESSAGE: Did GE dishwashers have some kind of mini cycle at one time, when mini stuff was all the rage? Or am I confused/mistaken again?
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Post# 2052-6/22/2001-16:55 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Whirlmore FLer (Is that right????)
MESSAGE: Tom,
I mostly second your view on this item. I'd like to add a few things though.
The early frontloaders weren't very frugal with water, I think they used about the same amount of water as toploaders did. Ofcourse there is a difference in hot water, but a the early frontloaders used very much rinse water. I still haven't found the reason why in Europe the frontloader got so popular. Perhaps it was just because a few technicians preferred the tumble washing technology over the agitator technology. I don't think lack of energy was the main reason.
After WWII the wringer washers overhere started to win it's fight into the European houses. There was only one difference with the US. Most houses didn't have a big watertank to fill the washer with. There were flow through water heaters, but only rich people could afford a big one with quite an amount of water flowing through. The rest had the really small flow through water heaters that produced perhaps 1/2 to 2/3 of a gallon hot water per minute. Most people already had a big electric hotplate to boil the laundry on, so after they purchased a wringer washer, they kept using the hotplate and put the laundry afterwards in the washer. Later there were non automatic agitator washers (no wringer, in combination with a spindryer) with a built in water heater Then it was only a small step to put a water heater in the frontloading machines. If some engineer would have made a different choice we could have had automatic agitator washers with built in water heaters!!!! I believe Constructa built the first frontloader in Europe in 1954. The Wirtschaftswunder had already started.
Louis
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Post# 2053-6/22/2001-17:02 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: My Newest Toy
MESSAGE: Silly me, I was presuming that you would have bought an american car. It's a very stylish one. I don't think Infinity is sold in Europe, at least not in the Netherlands. Nissan sells the Maxima overhere. They are very lucky with that name since the very popular fiancée of the eldest son of our queen is also called Maxima. People are fighting over that name a lot and Nissan already used it.
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Post# 2054-6/22/2001-17:35 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: My Newest Toy
MESSAGE: I really kinda wanted an Audi A6, but the budget couldn't quite handle that.
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Post# 2055-6/22/2001-19:37 ||| nmaineman36 (Portland Maine)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1-18 belts and Water bellows on 1965 (1-18 belts & Quick Wash question)
MESSAGE: I changed the belt on my Frigidaire 1-18 without having to drop the transmission or taking the pump apart. All you have to do is take off the hoses from the pump ports and its not an easy job if you dont have fox plier clamps. I replaced mine with the screw and band type clamps in case I have to do it again. Then I loosened the screws holding the motor to the bottom of the tub and slipped the belt under the pump and then up between the pump and suspension pylon and up. Then slip it around the mechanism making sure that the belt is on each side of it and onto the motor pully. 5 mins is all it takes after you loosen the screws and remove the clamps. tighten the screws and make sure there is 1/2'' deflection in the drive belt and you should be set. Put the hoses back onto the homeports and your back in business. Do Not do what I did and putz with the springs..if you do its a chore to get it right again. The belt cost me about 8 bucks and the part number for it is 5302834353. it will look different from what the current belt does and its cogged instead of smooth but thats for more flexability. It will work better once the belt is replaced.
I did the tightening thing too and i ended up breaking the belt on a load of towels and when the belt does break you dont have any spin or pump out abilty so if its giving you trouble now I would change it out before you go thru what I did.
Mike
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Post# 2056-6/22/2001-01:50 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
Appnut's birthday
MESSAGE: Hello Bob, Many happy returns on your birthday. Hope you have a wonderful day! Luigi
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Post# 2057-6/23/2001-05:53 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT:
thanks for the help on the 1-18
MESSAGE: Jet and Maintance thanks for your very helpful comments my neighboors thought I was nuts last night out in the pole barn jumping with joy. I did the jet cone Idea first of tighting the belt and Yeee Haaa. I will have to change this belt sooner or later but I must say it got me inside the machine and was suprised at how clean it was for its age
thanks
Wringing wet
Philippe
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Post# 2058-6/23/2001-08:34 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Appnut's birthday
MESSAGE: Happy Birthday - enjoy the day Bob!
All the best - Greg
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Post# 2059-6/23/2001-09:30 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Appnut's birthday
MESSAGE: Happy Birthday, Bob!!!
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Post# 2060-6/23/2001-10:21 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Appnut's birthday
MESSAGE: Happy Birthday Bob!
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Post# 2061-6/23/2001-10:22 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Happy Pride Weekend!!!
MESSAGE: Happy Gay Pride Weekend to of our members (gay or straight) in the club!
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Post# 2062-6/23/2001-10:24 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Appnut's birthday
MESSAGE: All the best to you, Bob!!!
-ph
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Post# 2063-6/23/2001-11:00 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
Free Tide Kickers
MESSAGE: From a P&G advertising email:
Free Tide Kick - Hurry, supplies are limited!!
As part of our Neighbor-to-Neighbor community, you are receiving special notice on promotions from Tide. This month we are offering coupons for a free Tide Kick! This amazing pretreat and measuring device works with Tide Deep Clean Liquid Formula to completely remove more of your stains better than any leading pretreater and other regular liquid laundry detergent combined.
Just visit
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and tell us where to mail your coupon for redemption at a local participating merchant. If you aren't sure which merchants in your area are participating, just visit our Store Finder at tide.com/everything/storeFinder/index.html?venue=06005003
Be the first on your block to "kick-start the pretreater in your Tide."
-ph
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Post# 2064-6/23/2001-18:29 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Appnut's birthday
MESSAGE: Happy Birthday to you, Bob. I hope your day is wonderful, and may I wish you many happy returns in the years to come.
Enjoy your day, Bob.
--Charles--
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Post# 2065-6/23/2001-19:21 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT:
Sorry examples about newer appliances.....
MESSAGE: On a pleasant Saturday afternoon here in the nation's capitol today, I spent the day at a picnic catching up with family and old friends, and upon returning home from the picnic, guess what I found sitting outside in my neighborhood??
(01). A BOL Montgomery Wards 1 Speed/1 Cycle Clothes Washer.
(02). And, a Whirlpool Clothes Dryer (you know, the one that you would've found on sale at a local Circuit City just a few years ago for $188.00).
And to think when we have had Maytags, Frigidaires, and Kenmores from the old days that practically lasted forever, it makes me wonder what sort of state that the manufacture of today's newer appliances has fallen into. The world trade treaty cannot be that damn bad, could it?? A lot of appliances manufacturers (at least, the American ones) who used to manufacture quality products themselves back in the old days are now shipping their operations overseas to countries like Mexico to take advantage of lower cost materials and cheaper labor just so that they increase their bottom lines here in the states. And at whose expense?? Unfortunately, it's us, the consumer. When an appliance is washed up in four or five years (many years before their time) and then we have to throw it out and get a new one over and over again makes me sort of wonder, how much worse can this get?? And are we going to start seeing our BETTER brands go to the toliet in the next five to ten years??
Maybe perhaps, those appliance grave yards have better stay open and be open to better business pretty soon. I am afraid that their might be a demand on reviving older, but better built appliances very soon.
What a shame...... A damn shame (about today's newer appliances)
--Charles--
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Post# 2066-6/23/2001-19:58 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Appnut's birthday
MESSAGE: Hey Bob, Happy Birthday. I hope you had a great day!
Todd
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Post# 2067-6/23/2001-20:55 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: We'll with the floor project and all I only had time to go to three or four sales today...
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/estatesale4/lst?.dir=/Estate+Sale+Saturday+June+23+2001&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/estatesale4/lst%3f.dir=/Estate%2bSale%2bSaturday%2bJune%2b23%2b2001%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 2068-6/23/2001-21:09 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT:
RE: Appnut's birthday
MESSAGE: Happy Birthday Bob!!!
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Post# 2069-6/23/2001-21:16 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Great picts Robert!! I love the Kenmore washer. How pre 80's. You even managed to get the model tag that is in the lower left corner.
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Post# 2070-6/23/2001-21:24 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: That "Martha Washington" dryer is about a 1974-1975 era. Exact same control panel style as the new washer my best friend from high school's mom got during my freshman year 1973-1974. Washer had all the exact features as our 1970 model 800. Of interest, this is the same washer that had the 4 minute drains.
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Post# 2071-6/23/2001-21:35 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Martha's dryer had the wrong knob on the timer dial - must have not liked the flatter one - or they updated to match their new washer!
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Post# 2072-6/23/2001-00:38 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Thanks for the pictures Robert. I'm likin' that old RCA television. I think it was RCA who had the first color set back in the mid 50's.
How's the rest of the tile coming? Can't wait to see the finished look with everything moved back in.
Todd
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Post# 2073-6/23/2001-00:56 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT:
RE: Appnut's birthday
MESSAGE: happy belated birthday Bob
SD
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Post# 2074-6/23/2001-00:59 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT:
RE: My Newest Toy
MESSAGE: Congrats on your new toy. We just got a STS a 2 weeks ago.
SD
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Post# 2075-6/24/2001-04:41 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Absolutely cool kitchen in the first house! I simply love the tiled ceiling! I also could imagine some classic appliances inthere. Thanks for the pictures.
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Post# 2076-6/24/2001-05:06 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
Whirlmore pictures
MESSAGE: Here's a link to a discussion on the garden web about the Whirlmore. One of the members scanned a few pictures of the Whirlmore brochure. I think it's a totally new desing, at least it doesn't look like the European Whirlpools.
LINK: http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/appl/msg0611091330901.html?28
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Post# 2077-6/24/2001-11:57 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Probably the original knob broke and the replacement wasn't the exact match. The water level knob on my grandmother's Kenmore 70 broke and the replacement was a totally different design, but was indexed the same.
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Post# 2078-6/24/2001-11:58 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Appnut's birthday
MESSAGE: Running a little late on this response, but . . . .
A Big Happy Birthday To Appnut!
DADoES
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Post# 2079-6/24/2001-11:59 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlmore pictures
MESSAGE: Ever since they moved thathomesite.com to GardenWeb, the forums are seriously dragging for me. Takes a good three to five minutes for any of the Forum areas to load, and that before I even try to view the individual posts/threads.
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Post# 2080-6/24/2001-14:01 ||| RobGwisdala (Troy Ohio 45373)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (18th century Kenmore wash/dry set.)
MESSAGE: Hello Everyone.
The 18th century Kenmore washer is an 1978 standard "14 pound" capacity model.
The 18th century Kenmore dryer is an 1972-1973 standard "14 pound" capacity model.
I could tell by the markings on the control panels.
Rob
ps= I am a huge Kenmore fan!!!
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Post# 2081-6/24/2001-14:17 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: I have a timer for KM washer that I got at an estate sale for $2 that has this same knob on it - I always thought those knobs were a good design and for years I liked how you could advance WP/KM timers by turning the knob. CU never liked them, but they were great for us dial pushers! In later models, they changed them so the hand knob would just spin and not turn the dial.
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Post# 2082-6/24/2001-14:19 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlmore pictures
MESSAGE: Thanks Louis - these look like very interesting machines. I love the dryer with a window!
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Post# 2083-6/24/2001-16:33 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlmore pictures
MESSAGE: Thanks for that wonderful link Louis. Those are the prototype version of these machines, aren't they?? And the dryer EVEN has a window?? That's going to be the first Kenmore dryer I've seen in a long time that has a window. WHAT A REVELATION!!!!!!
I'll be glad when they finally get those machines built and then imported over here to the states.
AND!!!!!! They're going to be "Kenmore Elite" machines too. I guess I have to say to the Whirlpool/Kenmore fans (myself included) on this board, if you want a pair of machines to add to your collection (no matter if your collection consists of vintage machines or more modern ones), these have to be it.
But at about $1,500.00 for the projected price of the washer, I would think that for just a few hundred more dollars, I might as well start considering getting a Miele.
Again, thanks for the link, Louis. I have a feeling that I am going to love these machines a lot more than I loved the Calyspo when it was released about a year ago.
--Charles--
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Post# 2084-6/24/2001-16:39 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Well Jason:
I can only guess what the vintage of that Kenmore washer is (and the given is, it definitely isn't an 80's washer). Right now, I am going to say 1977-79.
And, I did see the model number tag right on the left side on the bottom of the cabinet.
But I will maintain that on our 1978 2 Speed/4 Cycle Washer (and I forgot to state in my profile, this was a 29-Inch Large Capacity Washer....... whereas, our 1967 BOL 1 Speed/1 Cycle model was a 24-Inch model), the model number tag was on the bottom part underside the lid.
--Charles--
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Post# 2085-6/24/2001-17:32 ||| RobGwisdala (Troy Ohio 45373)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (Model Number= 110.72875100)
MESSAGE: Hi Charles,
Here is the model number of that estate sale washer=
110.72875100
The 76-77 models(26751) had four cycles.
Normal, Permanent Press, Knit-Delicate and Pre-Wash.
The 78 models(28751) had five cycles.
Normal, Permanent Press, Knit, Delicate and Pre-Wash.
The 79-81 models(29751 and 20751) had six cycles.
Normal, Permanent Press, Knit, Delicate, Pre-Soak and Pre-Wash.
The estate sale washer is an 1978 model(28751) with five cycles.
Rob
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Post# 2086-6/24/2001-17:39 ||| RobGwisdala (Troy Ohio 45373)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sorry examples about newer appliances.....
MESSAGE: Hi Charles.
I totally agree with you about the new appliances being sold today.
Here are the examples of newer appliances that have went to the toilet=
1992-Present WP/KM direct drive washers and matching dryers.
These washers and dryers are made out of cheaper material...Cheaper material saves cost and gives shorter useful life.
Rob
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Post# 2087-6/24/2001-18:21 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Pride Weekend!!! (For those interested)
MESSAGE: I know this is off the subject, but some of you might be interested. I hate to admit it, but today was my 19th Gay Pride Parade and festival, here are just a few of the 168 pictures I took of our 2.5 hour parade this morning...
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/miscbrands00/lst?&.dir=/Minneapolis+Gay+Pride+2001&.src=ph&.begin=9999&.view=t&.order=&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/miscbrands00/lst%3f%26.dir=/Minneapolis%2bGay%2bPride%2b2001%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 2088-6/24/2001-19:00 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlmore pictures
MESSAGE: If you were to read the entire thread you would learn that the machine is for sale in Ca. Those are not the prototype machines, but the actual machine.
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Post# 2089-6/24/2001-20:25 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlmore pictures
MESSAGE: Wow! They are COOOOOL! I love the pair!! Cant' wait to touch them!
jetcone--
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Post# 2090-6/24/2001-20:45 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Pride Weekend!!! (For those interested)
MESSAGE: Happy Gay Pride Day to you Robert;
I have to work today but that goes along with the job I have! Hope you had fun your pictures are great!
"Brooklyn Robert"
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Post# 2091-6/24/2001-00:59 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally! New Laundry Room Done
MESSAGE: Thank you, Your Majesty and Greg! I am home now and I'll drop you a line about my trip soon. I had a wonderful time!
QEOM
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Post# 2092-6/24/2001-01:20 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Happy Birthday Bob!
MESSAGE: Hope it was a nice one! Scott
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Post# 2093-6/25/2001-06:39 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
Question on what I was doing???
MESSAGE: HI Everyone:
I am home now , my Dad is doing much better so I can concentrate on washers for awhile.
I am asking anyone I promised to do something for to tell me what it was so I can do it. You see after the crisis last week all those favors have vanished and I can't recall what I said I'd do for members.
Greg I know I am searching for a part for you. And Mark Harman there was a part you wanted but I can't remember what it was.
So if you could all help me to refresh my memory so I can honor my promises it would greatly help things along.
jetcone
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Post# 2094-6/25/2001-06:48 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1-18 belts and Water bellows on 1965 (1-18 belts & Quick Wash question)
MESSAGE: GE even put a small mini-brew basket in some of their electric percolators in the 70s so that you could brew 2-3 cups of coffee. It was orange plastic and had a small diameter area to make a deep bed for the grounds and the top flared out to meet the sides of the regular brew basket to capture all of the water coming trough the spreader plate. TT
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Post# 2095-6/25/2001-06:59 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Whirlmore FLer (Is that right????)
MESSAGE: Louis, over here the early FLs did more spinning than your early ones. The Bendix Home Laundry settled on a cycle that washed, spray rinsed, spun, gave a deep rinse, spun then gave a second deep rinse and a final spin. WH took a while to finalize their rinsing sequence, but did spin at least once between the wash and rinse. I found a German made FL with the Frigidaire name on it at a thrift store years ago and John went and bought it. It does not spin at all until the end of the cycle. Good spinning during rinsing really helps cut down on the amount of water a machine uses, but John does not worry about rinsing like I do. Don't you think that space considerations also led Europe more toward the FLs since they could be made smaller and yet do more laundry than a top loader? Tom
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Post# 2096-6/25/2001-07:02 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Appnut's birthday
MESSAGE: Bob, happy belated birthday. Tom
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Post# 2097-6/25/2001-07:08 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sorry examples about newer appliances.....
MESSAGE: On the other hand, Charles, it might just be that somone moved into a place and got rid of the BOL machines either because they had better ones of their own or went out and bought nicer ones. With John's business we see a lot of that, particularly if the place had been a rental property beforehand. Tom
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Post# 2098-6/25/2001-07:15 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlmore pictures
MESSAGE: Wow! What a drastic design change! I wonder what the public's response will be to the design. Could it be the next "tower top?"
Steve 1-18
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Post# 2099-6/25/2001-07:17 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Pride Weekend!!! (For those interested)
MESSAGE: I was in Atlanta for the weekend for all the festivities. Will post the pictures later this week. It was a gay time for all!
Steve 1-18
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Post# 2100-6/25/2001-07:35 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
Whirlmore brochure--washer
MESSAGE: Here are some basic specs.
LINK: http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/fridge/msg0603412227268.jpg
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Post# 2101-6/25/2001-07:36 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
Whirlmore specs-dryer
MESSAGE: Even tout having a window!!!
LINK: http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/fridge/msg0603425927480.jpg
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Post# 2102-6/25/2001-07:37 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sorry examples about newer appliances.....
MESSAGE: Is it common in your part of the country to leave appliances such as refrigerators and washers and dryers in a house you've sold? I had a client that was floored when she moved here, bought a house and didn't get a refrigerator. Most people take all their appliances, except for built-ins, when they move out. Ellen never gave any thought to the fridge until they got the keys and found an empty spot in the kitchen!
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Post# 2103-6/25/2001-07:38 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlmore pictures
MESSAGE: I have to admit, when Is saw the pics of the white pair with the black door openings, kinda reminded me of Groucho Marx with horn-rimmed glasses and his bushy eyebrows LOL
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Post# 2104-6/25/2001-07:41 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Pride Weekend!!! (For those interested)
MESSAGE: Robert, Thanks for the pics. Loved Della Catessen! Tom
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Post# 2105-6/25/2001-08:08 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sorry examples about newer appliances..... (Houses sold with appliances )
MESSAGE: Greg, yes and no. A lot of times, yes, it goes into the contract that they convey. That was not important to me and I even tried to make the sellers take the Kenmore gas range, OTS microwave and DW, but they left them, so I sold them. If the property has been rental, the stuff stays since the landlord put it there and often times after the renters move, everything is replaced when the place is spruced up to have nicer appliances in the house for selling, although the bol laundry appliances are fairly typical. A lot of times, people call John and say that they just need something that works before the house goes to settlement. Sometimes private parties take the refrigerator when moving, but if they are moving to a place that has a nicer one, they leave theirs. With so much built in now, the refrigerator is about the only appliance that does or does not convey and if it looks built in, it stays also. TT
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Post# 2106-6/25/2001-08:23 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (1972's in season)
MESSAGE: Martha Washington dryer! Ha! You are too much, Robert!
That is yet another 1972 dryer. Steve was here this weekend and we found a harvest gold 1972 set with the dial-in-window. That makes the white set I have, and a coppertone, harvest gold, and 2 white sets that have slipped by in the last week or so.
Note that the Martha does not have the original knob...
-ph
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Post# 2107-6/25/2001-08:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sorry examples about newer appliances..... (Houses sold with appliances )
MESSAGE: I've been looking at houses as a "hobby" for a number of reasons over the years and rarely see refrigerators unless they are of the built-in variety. I've seen some estate houses where the washer and dryer were left and have been offered a number of sets that were left behind in a friend's rentals. Funny how things that are common in some areas aren't in others. Of all the appliances in my house, the BOL Hotpoint fridge is one that I'd pay to leave! My parents called this weekend and told me to be on the lookout for a good deal on a new fridge as their 15 y.o. Amana top mount has a bad ice maker. I told them it only needs a new solenoid valve, but they don't want to move it back here. I'm always on the lookout for a pastel (or charcoal) bottom freezer unit, so they may end up with the Hotpoint yet!
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Post# 2108-6/25/2001-08:35 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlmore specs-dryer
MESSAGE: Thanks for the links, I'm anxious to see these. Do you know or have you heard what the outside dimensions are? I would think they would have to be nearly the size of standard machines with a 7 cu. ft. dryer.
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Post# 2109-6/25/2001-08:43 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlmore brochure--washer
MESSAGE: I suggenly have the feeling this washer washes like the WP combo, saving water by spraying...
-ph
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Post# 2110-6/25/2001-08:45 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sorry examples about newer appliances.....
MESSAGE: Around here, you have to specify in the contract what you want to stay and what goes. If you don't specify leaving the stove, frig, and "window treatments", you'll really walk into an empty house...
-ph
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Post# 2111-6/25/2001-09:07 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlmore brochure--washer
MESSAGE: Peter, based upon what was "listed", I have the same suspicion. In fact, between the Catalyst mention & the other term that leads me to the belief of spray washing, I'm just beside myself--remember the description I posted after seeing the WP Combo in the video? 4th of July fireworks all over again!!!
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Post# 2112-6/25/2001-09:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sorry examples about newer appliances.....
MESSAGE: Here too, its rare that people move their appliances. My house came with all the appliances, including a 1995 Kenmore Washer and Dryer and a 1994 WCI/Frigidaire DW which were all in the trash the day after I moved in.
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Post# 2113-6/25/2001-09:53 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlmore brochure--washer
MESSAGE: That's interesting. The WP combo is an OK in the cleaning department, but its rinsing is very poor. Hopefully faster spinning will help the situation in the Whirlmore. Very sleek looking machine though. The window looks very large.
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Post# 2114-6/25/2001-09:54 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Question on what I was doing???
MESSAGE: YAY, thank goodness your Dad is OK. I've got one reminder for ya Jon, PULSAMATIC.
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Post# 2115-6/25/2001-10:10 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sorry examples about newer appliances..... (New feature on Sears Refrigerators)
MESSAGE: When John and I were wandering around the appliance dept at Sears Saturday evening after being told they did not have the new FL yet (read had never heard of it) we looked at most everything. The icemakers that still use the WP design have a new gadget that mounts on the front of the icemaker control box and extends back a ways. When you need more ice, you flip a switch that runs a fan mounted in this thing that blows more air against the botton of the icemaker to make ice freeze faster. Tom
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Post# 2116-6/25/2001-10:54 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Pride Weekend!!! (For those interested)
MESSAGE: Looks like you had a wonderful day. Did you keep the beads? You're wearing them every day, right?
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Post# 2117-6/25/2001-11:00 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Question on what I was doing???
MESSAGE: I don't think you mean Mark Harmon?? If so, I'm the part he is looking for LOL.
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Post# 2118-6/25/2001-11:07 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Whirlmore FLer (Is that right????)
MESSAGE: Tom, since the early frontloaders were quite big machines too, I don't think that they were introduced because they were smaller. Actually they took more space, because they didn't only needed space on top (the soapdispensers were all on top) but also at the front for opening the door. My mother's Bosch, that she had from 1966 until 1976 was almost as wide as an american toploader. I agree with you that spinning between rinses leads to a much better rinse result.
I don't think there was ever a Frigidaire built in Germany. Is there a tag on the machine that actually says "Made in Germany"? Do you have a picture of that machine? There are European Frigidaires, but they are made in Italy. Louis
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Post# 2119-6/25/2001-11:15 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlmore specs-dryer
MESSAGE: I think so too, I don't think a 7 cu ft drum would fit in a European sized dryer.
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Post# 2120-6/25/2001-11:44 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sorry examples about newer appliances..... (New FL)
MESSAGE: I was at Sears this weekend for a return, and I asked them about the new washers. They had no information on it yet, but they knew of whick I spoke and thanked me for asking. I almost got the idea that they are keeping a tally of people asking, maybe to see where to introduce it next?
Meanwhile, I've got to say that my return experience at Sears sucked. Seems like if you are hanging around with a receipt in your hand, you get avoided. Even tho' the return took then less than 10 seconds in paperwork... And the guy had a bit of an attitude because I was returning the AC unit at a different store than the one I bought it at. So sad, the state of customer service...
Sorry, I just had to bitch...
-ph
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Post# 2121-6/25/2001-11:46 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
Instant Fels!!!
MESSAGE: What a great soap! Mom used this for quite a while, then switched to ALL... Anyone here still find Fels Naptha soap around, grate it up and use it?
-ph
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Post# 2122-6/25/2001-12:21 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sorry examples about newer appliances.....
MESSAGE: Greg, in Minnesota I have seen a lot of variation on this theme. I think overall, appliances are moved with the owner a lot less today than they were in past times. We never moved any appliances except for our 1/18 washer and dryer, and that is because they can no longer be replaced.
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Post# 2123-6/25/2001-12:44 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Whirlmore FLer (Is that right????)
MESSAGE: John said that it was made in Germany, I thought, when he opened up the cabinet , but I have not seen inside the cabinet and could not prove it one way or another. I thought its cycle seemed pretty funky for something made in Germany, but did not think to ask about it at the time. I will check with him. Tom
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Post# 2124-6/25/2001-12:45 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Instant Fels!!!
MESSAGE: Peter, Fels is still sold in my grocery store both in the bar and box variety. I had a great aunt who always used it.
Robert really had me fooled with that Martha Washington dryer too. I saw the caption before the picture and I was thinking oh cool, remembering Dadoes parents' Martha Washington oven or whatever it was. Ha!
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Post# 2125-6/25/2001-12:50 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Pride Weekend!!! (Of course I am silly)
MESSAGE: I wont take those beads off till next year.
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Post# 2126-6/25/2001-13:24 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlmore specs-dryer
MESSAGE: But KitchenAid had a windowed dryer not too very long ago . . .
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Post# 2127-6/25/2001-14:16 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
1949 Unimatic Heading to Boston
MESSAGE: We'll I schlepped the '49 Frigidaire up the basement stairs last night in preperation to send it to Jetcone. I called Craters and Frieghters and they gave me an estimate of $325. It will be picked up on Thursday and it takes 7 to 10 business days for it to arrive at Jon's house.
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Post# 2128-6/25/2001-14:54 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlmore specs-dryer
MESSAGE: I remember that dryer Glen. This new one appears to have a better view. The KA dryer was pretty narrow in width, couldn't see much of the action. Reminded me so much of the 1959 LK Combo as well as some Hamiltons. To me, Westy dryers had much better views.
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Post# 2129-6/25/2001-18:19 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1949 Unimatic Heading to Boston
MESSAGE: Wow! I can;t wait to spin that baby!!!
The Pulsamatic was schlepped up and out of the basement yeaterday and is sitting on its platform ready to be bolted and driven to ROADWAY to be shipped to the convention for Uni!!!
Jet
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Post# 2130-6/25/2001-18:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Question on what I was doing???
MESSAGE: You were going to send that 1958 Frigidaire WCI & DCI in charcoal gray.
Thanks!
Glad your dad is doing better - Greg
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Post# 2131-6/25/2001-20:02 ||| jakins (Kissimmee, Fl.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Instant Fels!!!
MESSAGE: I use it all the time. I am a chef and I use it on my whites. I have found nothing that gets out food stains as well as fels. also works great as a spot cleaner for carpets. The stores down here put it with the bar soaps not the laundry soaps. Oh yeah it is also great for washing your hands after working with grease, but not to often as it also takes the natural oils out of your skin.
John
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Post# 2132-6/25/2001-20:41 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Question on what I was doing???
MESSAGE: HAAHAHAHA!!! Greg They are crated and on their way!
jon
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Post# 2133-6/25/2001-20:44 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Instant Fels!!!
MESSAGE: I am very allergic to Poison Ivy and fels is the only thing that will stop it cold in its tracks!! I have showered and washed clothes in it all my life!
But they no longer sell the Instant Fels up here any more so I grate my own from the bar.
Nothing leaves your clothes as soft and fresh as FEls!!!!
jetcone
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Post# 2134-6/25/2001-20:50 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlmore brochure--washer
MESSAGE: Wow 3.7 cu ft!! The Neptune and Frigmore are 2.7-2.9 cu ft and they hold ALOT!!!!
I CAN"T WAIT>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
jet
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Post# 2135-6/25/2001-20:51 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlmore brochure--washer
MESSAGE: FOrget that calypso businessssssssssssssssssssssssss
jetttttcone
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Post# 2136-6/25/2001-21:00 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Whirlmore FLer (I have a tendency to agree with the germany thing)
MESSAGE: When I went to replace my white westinghouse front loader for another I was told back years ago that a new version was gonna come out ... now we see a frigmore whirlmor and so on the advantage that german engeneering had was that the suspension whas not cement blocks that took weightlifter to move the sons of bitches ... So I do believe that our front loading machines are now mimicing european models for people that are good stewards to the enviroment
God the most exciting thing as a kid was when some one move into the neighboor hood I was more interested in what kind of washer they had
Philippe
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Post# 2137-6/25/2001-21:02 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1949 Unimatic Heading to Boston (that seem to be a standard rate )
MESSAGE: I enquired about the slant front westinghouses on ebay and it was gonna be 325.00 to ship them also .. HUMMMMMM maybe we can dicker with these people as a group
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Post# 2138-6/25/2001-22:00 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
Yay! Atlanta Pride Weekend 2001
MESSAGE: As promised, here is the link to last weekend's pictures.
Steve 1-18
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/svb14_1953/lst?.dir=/Atlanta+Pride+2001
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Post# 2139-6/25/2001-22:19 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Yay! Atlanta Pride Weekend 2001
MESSAGE: Thanks for the great picts Steve, looks like you guys had a fun time too!
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Post# 2140-6/25/2001-22:56 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Yay! Atlanta Pride Weekend 2001
MESSAGE: Beautiful pics - looks like it was a great time! Thanks for sharing - Greg
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Post# 2141-6/25/2001-23:00 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Instant Fels!!!
MESSAGE: Is this "real" soap? I've never seen it in the stores here, but never looked either. My grandmother used to have a very old box of Ivory Snow soap flakes, but never used it. I will have to look for it here - never have used real soap before. Grandmother used to make her own lye soap that was used for washing greasy overalls, etc. Just toss the bar in the machine and pull it out before the rinse.
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Post# 2142-6/25/2001-23:49 ||| worldtravler (Detroit/Ypsilanti, MI)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlmore brochure--washer
MESSAGE: What an impressive washer!! I have been pricing the Frigidaire/Kenmore front loaders at the Sears outlet for a while now and had just about decided to get one when this beautiful machine comes along! I believe someone commented on the sales people at Sears 'keeping tally' on how many customers inquire about them...I second that thought. I was in MSP a few days ago and asked about this machiine. The sales person was very interested how I knew about this machine. Same thing happened over the weekend at my local store here in Michigan. A little off the subject but there was a marketing guy from the laundry division of Whirlpool on one of my flights out of Kalamazoo a few months back and he hinted at 'a few' new products coming out over the next several months. The only one he would confirm was the Whirlpool Calypso version. He did say Whirlpool was looking into other areas of laundry cleaning. When I pressed him for further information he would just say it was something new to be used to 'freshen' fabrics. An at home dry cleaning machine perhaps? With all the new government regulations that must be phased in over the next several years, no telling what the manufactuers have coming out.
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Post# 2143-6/25/2001-23:53 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Instant Fels!!! (Super on baby clothes!)
MESSAGE: I've been using Fels for years also and it's great. I've only found it in bar form her in CA. Now that we have a baby it's really getting used alot on all those food stains (as John pointed out). I didn't know about the trick of using it after exposure to poison ivy. I'll have to try that next time. I've always used the ol' bleach in the shower trick.
Todd
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Post# 2144-6/25/2001-23:55 ||| worldtravler (Detroit/Ypsilanti, MI)
SUBJECT:
RE: Instant Fels!!!
MESSAGE: The last time I saw powdered Instant Fels was a few years back in Big Lots. I assumed it was being discontinued by its manufacturer, Purex/Dial Corporation, since Big Lots is a closeout store. It's a detergent not a soap...very similar in smell and consistancy to Classic Purex.
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Post# 2145-6/25/2001-01:19 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Instant Fels!!!
MESSAGE: Hi Peter;
I saw it in a bar form at grocery store, they also had octagon bar (brown soap).
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Post# 2146-6/26/2001-06:41 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlmore specs-dryer (KA window-door dryer)
MESSAGE: And you can still buy the parts necessary to convert a similar door style dryer to a window door, but nice as a window is, I feel that the round window in an old WP side swing dryer door lets you see more of the tumbling action. TT
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Post# 2147-6/26/2001-06:44 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Instant Fels!!! (Fels on food stains)
MESSAGE: John, how do you keep it from oversudsing in your FL? Tom
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Post# 2148-6/26/2001-07:17 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Whirlmore FLer (I have a tendency to agree with the germany thing)
MESSAGE: Philippe, the other night we saw an old WH FL with the cast iron weights. It even still had good bearings. John said that the cast iron weight machines did not have the snubber problems that the concrete weight machines had; they were much more stable. I have one of them in my basement that does not really need much to restore it, but I dream of being able to modify the timer to get a spin between the deep rinses. I know what you mean about when new people moved in and checking out the appliances. When I delivered papers back in Georgia, many of the houses either had the washer in the kitchen or in a utility room off the carport. When I would collect, I would often get glimpses of the appliances, expecially since the kitchen door often opened onto the carport. After I had been on the route a while, some people would invite me in while they got the money or wrote the check. There were even customers who would invite me in to show me a new stove or washer, but I don't remember what led up to it except that I was an appliance obsessed kid. There were the Saturday mornings when I was collecting when a utility room door would be left open and I would catch a glimpse of a washer or dryer that had not been seen before. It almost made delivering papers worthwhile. Driving around in Florida neighborhoods, I check out the laundry appliances when the garage doors are open. Tom
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Post# 2149-6/26/2001-08:44 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlmore brochure--washer (Whirlpool FL )
MESSAGE: I can't wait to see this washer - does anyone know if any Sears stores in NY carry it - I went to 2 already & they didn't have it. Is it going to be regular 120 volt? Would be nice if it becomes a combo down the road.
Peter
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Post# 2150-6/26/2001-09:00 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Instant Fels!!!
MESSAGE: But is Instant Fels the same thing as Fels Naphtha Soap? Some say this new stuff is a detergent. Tom
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Post# 2151-6/26/2001-10:25 ||| estate-sale-gary (Golden Valley, MN)
SUBJECT:
Uni Saves the Day
MESSAGE: For those of you who have never seen Mr. Seger work on a washer, you're in for a big surprise. My washer "died" Friday night. I called Rob and he asked me a few simple questions and was able to diagnose the problem as I held the PHONE up to the washer. A belt had snapped (I know the feeling). He came over for dinner last night and gave the washer a once over...made a few adjustments. He is truly amazing!
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Post# 2152-6/26/2001-10:44 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT:
RE: Uni Saves the Day (My sentiments exactly )
MESSAGE: he is truly the wizard of washers and complete wealth of knowledge
Philippe
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Post# 2153-6/26/2001-11:01 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Instant Fels!!!
MESSAGE: Are you on their payroll? LOL
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Post# 2154-6/26/2001-11:09 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Uni Saves the Day
MESSAGE: Gary, at least when this belt snapped you were not left with your pants around your ankles. I am and always will in awe of Uni and all who can accomplish what they set out to do by working with their hands. TT
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Post# 2155-6/26/2001-11:09 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Yay! Atlanta Pride Weekend 2001
MESSAGE: Hi Steve, that looks like a real wonderful day. I expect you and Rhinnie dumped the girls in the end?
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Post# 2156-6/26/2001-11:17 ||| dalangdon (Seattle, WA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sorry examples about newer appliances..... (Sears and Appliances)
MESSAGE: Hey Everybody - this is my first post in the new site!
If you think your Sear's return experience was bad, try ordering something over their website and then trying to return it - that's MAJOR drama.
I bought a refrigerator at sears.com, and before it was delivered found a cheaper one at the store. I tried to cancel the order with the first salesperson, but she would have none of it. I finally found a commission-driven guy to do it, but it took him 40 minutes on the phone with three different offices to get the first order cancelled, my card credited and the new order approved. I felt like some bad credit bum ;-)
The upside is that my new Kenmore is so quiet and so much cheaper to run than my 1982 Hotpoint. Even the ice maker is quiet.
The downside is that the coolest bells and whistles seem to be saved for the most massive refrigerators. Even my fairly modest sized one still looks like a giant in my kitchen, so I couldn't get one of units with all the really fun stuff. Manufactuers need to realize that not all of us have huge kitchens. I would gladly have paid a little extra for a small fridge that had all the stuff I wanted.
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Post# 2157-6/26/2001-12:27 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
VCCC Convention
MESSAGE: Here are some pictures of the Vacuum Cleaner Collectors Club convention I attended in Portland this past weekend. Scott
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/portlandvac2001
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Post# 2158-6/26/2001-12:53 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: VCCC Convention (Convention)
MESSAGE: Hi Scott,
Looks like u guys had a great time - hope to speak to u soon.
Peter
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Post# 2159-6/26/2001-13:20 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sorry examples about newer appliances..... (Sears and Appliances)
MESSAGE: Dan, it seems that size queens run the show and you only get the nicest features when you buy the biggest. Space is no problem sir, knock out that wall and build an addition. Tom
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Post# 2160-6/26/2001-16:09 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: VCCC Convention
MESSAGE: Your Majesty,
I believe you had a wonderful time at the convention with all these vacuums. You look really wonderful between all these Sunbeams. We also want to thank you for taking and sharing the pictures of the Riviera. If the Royal treasurer would allow it, we sure would like to have one like that.
QLOTOC
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Post# 2161-6/26/2001-16:35 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: VCCC Convention
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, we had a wonderful time indeed, thank you very much! We quite like the classic car as well and as a matter of fact, a number of the other members are also classic car enthusiasts. Did you notice the vintage AEG cleaner? It was well worth the trip, even if we did miss a couple of treasures that Robert depicted from the sales over the weekend.
In addition to the other festivities, we saw for the first time in person the Miele cleaners, which were quite impressive. With the exception of an older American Electrolux or Hoover Constellation, it is probably the quietest machine we've ever encountered, and quite powerful. The cost is US $1,120 on closeout (new model is close to US $1,500), but were we to find one at reduced cost it would be fun to have one. We also saw the British "Dyson", which was an interesting machine to see but we did not find it particularly impressive on a personal level.
Our friends from Arizona visited one of the members in Seattle just prior to our convention, and this home was equipped with a Miele washer/dryer set, which they found most impressive.
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Post# 2162-6/26/2001-17:19 ||| jakins (Kissimmee, Fl.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Instant Fels!!! (Fels on food stains)
MESSAGE: Tom, I use the Fels Naptha Bar. I grate the soap and it does not have many suds at all. It has less suds than the Tide And Wisk HE detergents.
John
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Post# 2163-6/26/2001-17:50 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Uni Saves the Day
MESSAGE: You should donate that Monkey Wards washer to someone in dire need and get one for yourself that's 20-30 years older than yours! A nice vintage Frigidaire Multimatic would provide endless hours of laundry enjoyment!
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Post# 2164-6/26/2001-17:51 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: VCCC Convention
MESSAGE: Your Majesty,
Yes, we did notice the AEG cleaner. We always smile a little when we see the name. There are not only Vampyrs but also Vampyrettes which are the handhelds. We find the price of the Miele you mention here very if not to say extremely high. We bought our TOL Miele vacuum about 6 years ago for around $199.- It's a very De Luxe model with electronic suction control that you can put on automatic.
QLOTOC
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Post# 2165-6/26/2001-17:58 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: VCCC Convention
MESSAGE: Very cool pics Scott! Looks like you had a good time, lots of interesting pics of vacs I've never heard of before! Thanks and welcome back - Greg
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Post# 2166-6/26/2001-18:02 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: VCCC Convention
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg! Talk to you soon! :)
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Post# 2167-6/26/2001-18:04 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Uni Saves the Day
MESSAGE: Jetcone did the same with me. I took the cordless out to the green house (where I had my first 1-18). He had me run it thru all the cycle phases so he could listen to it.
Steve 1-18
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Post# 2168-6/26/2001-18:08 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Yay! Atlanta Pride Weekend 2001
MESSAGE: The girls were collecting money. They told me they'd give me a kiss for a 5. I said I wanted it on film and that Rhinnie wanted one, too. They said that it would make their mothers happy (they were kissing men). I sent the link to one of the girls and she sent me a nice note thanking me for the pictures.
Steve 1-18
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Post# 2169-6/26/2001-18:21 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: VCCC Convention
MESSAGE: Nice pictures, Scott. Looks like you had a ball!
Steve 1-18
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Post# 2170-6/26/2001-18:21 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: VCCC Convention
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, it sounds as though the pricing discrepancies between America and Europe are just as drastic for Miele cleaners as they are for Miele washers and dryers. Despite their excellent quality, we believe they will need to remedy this in order to have a wide base of customers in America.
QEOM
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Post# 2171-6/26/2001-18:32 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: VCCC Convention
MESSAGE: Thanks Steve, yes I did have a lot of fun! I enjoyed your pictures too! Scott
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Post# 2172-6/26/2001-20:49 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1949 Unimatic Heading to Boston (that seem to be a standard rate )
MESSAGE: WHAT SLANT FRONT WESTYS ON EBAY????
PHILLIPE TALK TO ME>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
jetcone
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Post# 2173-6/26/2001-21:01 ||| jetcirclefill (Pensacola, Fl)
SUBJECT:
Weekend pics
MESSAGE: Steve, Robert, great pictures. It was quiet here on the Emerald Coast. Our big weekend is Memorial day, then nothing the rest of the year.
Tom
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Post# 2174-6/26/2001-21:03 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Instant Fels!!!
MESSAGE: I should be! That soap has saved my life many times over Louis!!
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Post# 2175-6/26/2001-21:06 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: VCCC Convention
MESSAGE: SCott love that suit!!! ITs giving me ideas!
jon
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Post# 2176-6/26/2001-21:10 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Instant Fels!!! (Fels in F/L)
MESSAGE: Yeah I also find that FELS is a low sudser. But there is a fine line to cross. If you put in a teaspoon too much in my Westy its all over and the doorglass is covered with white suds and nothing tumbles anymore. If you are a teaspoon too low then you get soapy water but no suds action.
And as we all know from Uni's video ads..."how can you clean if you don't have HEAPING SUDS"!!!!
jet
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Post# 2177-6/26/2001-21:10 ||| jetcirclefill (Pensacola, Fl)
SUBJECT:
RE: VCCC Convention
MESSAGE: Scott, great pictures. Billy's suit remindes me of when I was 11or12 I had a 1912 BEE-VAC. I had saved money from my paper route and bought a beat up Westinghouse combo. It needed a fan and motor for the drying cycle. I'm sure you see where this is going.... After the fire was put out and my Dad put his belt back on.... it all went to the junk yard. Two classic appliances down the drain.
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Post# 2178-6/26/2001-21:11 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Uni Saves the Day
MESSAGE: Thank you Steve. I love to diagnose over the phone. And I know Uni does too!
jon
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Post# 2179-6/26/2001-21:48 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: VCCC Convention
MESSAGE: Good thinking Jet! :-)
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Post# 2180-6/26/2001-21:52 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: VCCC Convention
MESSAGE: Well I was very fortunate, even though my father could at times be a bit of an Archie Bunker that I never ran into any problems or resistence to any of my unusual interests. Glad you like the pictures though, and now that you're grown up I'm glad you've found outlets for your interests as well! Scott
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Post# 2181-6/26/2001-21:55 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1949 Unimatic Heading to Boston (that seem to be a standard rate )
MESSAGE: Hi Jet! That, I'm guessing, would be the slant front Westinghouse washer and dryer you can see at the link below!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.aol.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1158263670
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Post# 2182-6/27/2001-02:23 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: VCCC Convention
MESSAGE: Your Majesty,
We think the difference in price is too big. Miele makes good vacuums, but not more than that. We wouldn't buy a Miele for that kind of money when we were living in your country.
QLOTOC
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Post# 2183-6/27/2001-05:29 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1949 Unimatic Heading to Boston (Hurry ONLY 10 HOurs left on Bidding)
MESSAGE: Jet
I have been talking with the owner and get in there and bid buddy they look great
wish I could afford it
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Post# 2184-6/27/2001-05:30 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1949 Unimatic Heading to Boston (here is the link Jet )
MESSAGE: here is the link to the westies
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1158263670
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Post# 2185-6/27/2001-05:55 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1949 Unimatic Heading to Boston (Westy Pair on ebay>>Jakins)
MESSAGE: Thanks Phillipe:
I think John has beat me to the punch. I am glad for him, I really don't want those to see the KRUSHER and I really don't have the room right now.
John, there is a Crater&Freighter in Gary and Ft. Wayne if you need them. How will you get them to FL?
jet
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Post# 2186-6/27/2001-07:42 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: VCCC Convention
MESSAGE: What's this about a WH combo and a fire? Have I missed some big story in your life? Inquiring minds want the whole dish. Tom
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Post# 2187-6/27/2001-08:23 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Instant Fels!!!
MESSAGE: Instant Fels was already a detergent back in 1981 when it was carried by all the stores. I used it in college, until I left school and fell in love with Wascomats and switched to Dash and ALL.
-ph
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Post# 2188-6/27/2001-08:42 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: VCCC Convention
MESSAGE: What a great time! Did you bring back anything, or was there any trading going on?
-ph
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Post# 2189-6/27/2001-08:52 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Uni Saves the Day
MESSAGE: Thanks Gary, I'm glad I could save your 20lb Norge even if its a Monkey Wards. Most Americans would have gone out and spent $700 on a new washer, and not even thought of spending $10 on a new belt.
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Post# 2190-6/27/2001-08:57 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: VCCC Convention
MESSAGE: Great Pictures Scott, glad you had a nice time.
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Post# 2191-6/27/2001-09:34 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Instant Fels!!!
MESSAGE: Thats what I thought Peter, the instant was a detergent but it must have had lye in it as well because it also used to get the poison ivy off my clothes.
jet
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Post# 2192-6/27/2001-09:45 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: VCCC Convention
MESSAGE: Hi Scott
Thanks for the pics, glad you all enjoyed the convention, I`m also a Miele fan, had a Blue 300i model for years, 1500w varispeed, whisper quiet & only cost £149,
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 2193-6/27/2001-14:27 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: VCCC Convention
MESSAGE: Scott
Thanks for sharing the great pictures of the vac convention. It looks like you had a great time. And you got to go to Stark's museum! What fun!
Rich
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Post# 2194-6/27/2001-14:41 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlmore brochure--washer (read the fine print)
MESSAGE: Hi John
I was in awe of a 3.7 drum in the Whirlmore FL too....but if you read the fine print...under the dryer picture, the *** section...it says " *** Equivalent to a top loading agitator washer with a 3.7 cubic foot tub."
So you could say a Frigmore's 2.7 drum is equivalent to an agitator washer's 3.2 tub. But what is the actual size of the Whirlmore's drum? The brochure doesn't say. This seems like misleading advertising to me.
The Whirlmore is a very cool machine, however. I'd love to do a few loads in one. The styling is a little over the top for me...I personally prefer the design simplicity of the Frigmore. But I'm glad to see Whirlpool get on the front-loader wagon.
Rich
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Post# 2195-6/27/2001-16:06 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: VCCC Convention
MESSAGE: We agree, wholeheartedly. We are not sure if there is some sort of tariff on such imports or what, but perhaps our prices will come down once Miele has a larger foothold in the US market. QEOM
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Post# 2196-6/27/2001-16:09 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: VCCC Convention
MESSAGE: I didn't bring anything back save for some nice vintage literature, but there were definitely machines and various parts that you could purchase or trade from various members. A lot of it is geography, i.e., who lives closest to the convention site as to who brings what. Some folks who did fly and found something they wanted then did either ship or pack up the item to fly back with them. One stewardess even stowed a Rainbow cleaner in a closet inside the plane for one member! S
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Post# 2197-6/27/2001-16:10 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Uni Saves the Day
MESSAGE: A worthy investment for a 79 Wards, which is far better than most toploaders he could replace it with today! I still remember the '79 Wards we saw at a sale one day, it was porcelain and quite well made.
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Post# 2198-6/27/2001-16:10 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: VCCC Convention
MESSAGE: Thanks! Yes, it was just so much fun. S
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Post# 2199-6/27/2001-16:11 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: VCCC Convention
MESSAGE: Thanks Mike, and glad you enjoyed the pictures. Miele is a great product but they need to get a hold on their US pricing! Scott
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Post# 2200-6/27/2001-16:13 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: VCCC Convention
MESSAGE: Thanks Rich, it was wonderful, lots of fun! And it was so nice and cool there, I want to go back!! :)
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Post# 2201-6/27/2001-16:37 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlmore brochure--washer (Jetcone and Golittlesport.....)
MESSAGE: That makes three of us. While we had the Bendixes and the Westinghouses in the 1950's and 1960's..... and just the Westinghouses in the 1970's through the mid 1990's, it's refreshing to see that other (American) manufacturers has decided to get in on the front loading washer frenzy (Maytag, with their Neptune models, and then Frigidaire (who has came up with a design that everyone loves)..... and now, Whirlpool is joining in as well....... Welcome home, Whirlpool....).
But when you see a front loading washer that has a wash drum that has about 3.7 cu. ft. of space right inside of it, that's going to be enough to raise the eyebrows of a lot of folks, including THIS "died in the woods" Kenmore fan. The Frigidaire has a 2.7 cu. ft. drum, and it can hold a BIG washload. The Maytag Neptune has a 3.1 cu. ft. wash drum.... so I cannot EVEN begin to imagine what size washload this thing can hold. But now, the new Kenmore Elite front loader has a 3.7 cu. ft. drum. When I downloaded the specs and saw that, all I could say is WOW (!!!!!!!!). That has to be as big as some of the Milnors that I see at one of my local laundromats.
Golittlesport:
I saw the machines also, and I happen to be in love with the design (forgive me for sounding a little biased..... I'm a Kenmore fan you know (:-)) of them. It's a high-end design, make no mistake about it. But I wouldn't say that it's over the top, and all of that. In fact, I love that design so much, I am going to update my profile and make it and addition right along with all of my other dream machines (I listed both, vintage and modern machines in my profile..... because I feel that both generations of washers have something to offer THIS collector if he (meaning ME) ever wishes to start a collection) on my dream list.
Jetcone:
That makes two of us. I would like to do a few loads in that BIG critter my damn self.
--Charles--
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Post# 2202-6/27/2001-16:46 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlmore brochure--washer (Take Out 4 A Spin )
MESSAGE: I would love 2 try this new Whirlmore so badly. I would love 2 see more specific specs. I especially like the fact it has a big Window
Peter
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Post# 2203-6/27/2001-17:07 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlmore brochure--washer (read the fine print)
MESSAGE: Yes Rich I noticed that disclaimer too! I think you are right , its a teeny weeny tub - blown up with advertising!
But like you say I still want to do a complete load in them as soon as possible!
I got ahold of Craters and Freighters in Maine and am off sat to ship out the pulsamatic to Robert for the convention! He loves that machine! It was the same as his grandmothers!!
I find machines from childhood seem to have the deepest impact on us do you?
jon
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Post# 2204-6/27/2001-17:27 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlmore brochure--washer (3.7 drum size possible )
MESSAGE: Ya know Rich---- I just did the math. Its not out of reason if they HAVE come up with some sort of new dampening system.Look>
volume in cu. in.=(h)x(pi)x(radius)x(radius).
So for 3.7 cu ft drum we get 6396 cu inches for the drum. [1728 cu in per cu foot]
Now for a drum depth of 25 inches--which is alittle too deep for a 31 inch cabinet but lets take it as an upper limit
SO for a drum of 25 inches deep we would need a diameter of 18 inches- very typical.
Now for a drum of 20 inches deep let that be the lower limit we would see a drum diameter of 20 inches. A square cylinder -Like a box.
Now a 20 inch wide drum is about the limit in 29 inch wide washer. [Because as we all know from experince an unbalanced load will throw a drum 4 inches either side at critical speed]
So if they have come up with some kind of hot new suspension system it might just be possible to make a drum somewhere between those two limits and we will all see a 3.7 cu ft drum in this thing!
Lets see how good the engineers at Whirlpool really are!!!!
jon
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Post# 2205-6/27/2001-17:38 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
Jakins did you win??
MESSAGE: J- did you win the two Westys?? I hope!!! Tell us all about them and your adventure getting them home!!
jetcone
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Post# 2206-6/27/2001-18:39 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlmore brochure--washer (Kelvinator )
MESSAGE: Jett
I would drive to boston to pick up a kelvinator with a glass window just like the one you have... and be indebted to you for life or at least as long as it washes LOL
Philippe
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Post# 2207-6/27/2001-18:42 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT:
RE: Jakins did you win?? (I want to know also )
MESSAGE: I contacted the owners to find out about shipping and glad you got them for that price what a find ... I don't even know you and I could hate you ..LOL (laughing on LIne)
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Post# 2208-6/27/2001-18:57 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlmore brochure--washer (Kelvinator )
MESSAGE: I'll keep that in Mind P!
jet
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Post# 2209-6/27/2001-19:01 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Jakins did you win?? (I want to know also )
MESSAGE: You mean glad Jakins got them for that price! Once I saw someone in the club wanted them it was hands off for me as I have one! Jakins there are C&F's in Gary and FT WAYNE if that helps you get them on their way!
jet
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Post# 2210-6/27/2001-19:12 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlmore brochure--washer (pulsamatic )
MESSAGE: Hi Jon
I can't wait to see your pulsamatic at the convention! Our neighbors had one and I remember watching the agitator and wondering why it was moving so much faster than my grandmother's unimatic. Yes, the machines I grew up with have a definite soft spot in my heart. That is why I love the Frigidaire 55 Imperial so much. That is also why I like Westies.
Rich
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Post# 2211-6/27/2001-19:21 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlmore brochure--washer (3.7 drum size possible )
MESSAGE: Yeah...I see where it is possible, but if the drum REALLY is 3.7 why do they need that disclaimer saying it's equal in volume to a 3.7 tubbed agitator machine? Maytag used that same type of advertising on the Neptune.
I can see the reasoning in wanting to educate the public that a front loader can hold more than a agitator machine with the same size tub. But that brochure says in huge letters 3.7 cubic foot tub with an asteric after it and the asteric says the tub is EQUIVALENT to a 3.7 tub with an agitator. It makes me just wonder what size the tub is in reality.
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Post# 2212-6/27/2001-20:07 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT:
Congrates to Jakins!
MESSAGE: Hey John,
Good for you, you won the Westy's. I'm glad they're going to a good home. They will be perfect company for your Westy pullout dishwasher.
I hope the dryer has the music box and that it still works.
Todd
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Post# 2213-6/27/2001-21:13 ||| jetcirclefill (Pensacola, Fl)
SUBJECT:
RE: VCCC Convention (WH combo)
MESSAGE: TT
Picture this. Reading, Pa.1958: A 12yr old boy..WH combo..Bee-Vac vacuum motor and fan..water..wet towels..220v heating element..and a piece of wood to patch the hole in the heater housing. It was only until I could get the parts I needed to fix it right! It almost worked. The towels didn't smell that bad and they were all but dry.
Tom
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Post# 2214-6/27/2001-21:25 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlmore brochure--washer (3.7 drum size possible )
MESSAGE: I know Rich but and this is a big but. They say equivalent to a 3.7 cu ft agitator machine. So it could be taken another way. For a T/loader to handle 3.7 cu ft of clothes the tub would have to be bigger than 3.7 BECAUSE of that agitator being there. SO if you took the surgilator out then the T/L would hold more than 3.7 cu ft.
I think your train of thought will prove out in the end but if the engineers are on top of their game then the ad guys may be the one that have the phrases backwards.
If you look again you will see something mentioned about 20 lbs loads in the fine print. Now I have not seen 20 # loads mentioned since the Norge F/L 1950 and the top loader Norge.
Lets hope
jet
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Post# 2215-6/27/2001-01:46 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
Calypso for Australia Not
MESSAGE: I just sent an email to whirlpool asking if we shall see the Calypso in Australia. The answer was no as there was insufficent market interest. I mean really. Who did they ask? Certainly not me!!! I dont think there are too many people who realise what the Calypso is. If they were to show one at the easter show or the home shows that are on in the capital cities I am sure they would fuind plenty of interest. LG got enough intrest to introduce the Turbo Drum DD.
Perhaps I should ask them if we will see the HE3T?? Not likely as we STILL havent recieved the lasted range of Whirlpool front loaders from Europe, though hopefully that will change as the current models have large price reductions at the moment, which usually indicates new models arriving.
Arrrggghhh!
Very Disappointed!
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Post# 2216-6/28/2001-02:32 ||| jakins (Kissimmee, Fl.)
SUBJECT:
MESSAGE:
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Post# 2217-6/28/2001-02:32 ||| jakins (Kissimmee, Fl.)
SUBJECT:
The Westy set on Ebay
MESSAGE: Thanks Everybody. I have been looking for a set like this for about 15 years. It will be some time before they make it to fla. I have a friend whe lives in St.Louis and he will be picking them up for me. and storing them for me at his place. till I can go get them. With the summer rush on at WDW and a trip to New York in August, and having a pool put in, and other work on the house it will probably be Sept. before they make it to my house. They will be in good hands My friend lou collects Monitor Top Refrigerators (about 110 at last count) so he has the proper storage for old appliances. Thanks Again Guys I can't wate too see them Myself.
John
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Post# 2218-6/28/2001-06:59 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Westy set on Ebay
MESSAGE: Hey John, congrats on the westy set. Wow 110 Monitor Tops and I thought I had a lot of appliances. Where does he keep those refrigerators?
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Post# 2219-6/28/2001-07:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Westy set on Ebay
MESSAGE: Conrats on the set - they are very cool machines. Is this the same friend in St. Louis that had the very old Bendix dryer? Maybe with the Westy set around for a while we can make a laundry convert out of him! Glad to hear that someone in the club got those machines.
A pool?? Maybe the next convention should be in FL? ;-) Greg
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Post# 2220-6/28/2001-08:27 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlmore brochure--washer (3.7 drum size possible )
MESSAGE: The coin-op SQ 25# machine has a 3.76 cubic foot drum. That machine is 26" wide - no problem there - but 34" deep and 45" tall. Now that's a bolt down machine, no room in the cabinet for suspension or dampening. If this Whirlmore wants to claim that as true capacity, then this machine is a monster and won't fit in the typical home laundry room!
I think the disclaimer on the slick says that it's equivalent of a 3.7 cubic foot capacity top loader. So terribly misleading!
The link takes you to the SQ commercial specs site... You need Adobe to view...
-ph
LINK: http://www.speedqueen.com/route_adv_pdf/ac00-203.pdf
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Post# 2221-6/28/2001-11:42 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlmore brochure--washer (3.7 drum size possible )
MESSAGE: Jon,
I don't think there is a manufacturer who would give a smaller figure for the drumsize than it really is. I guess you should count around .3 to .5 cubic feet for the agitator. So I think the drumsize is somewhere between 3.2 and 3.4 cubic feet.
BTW, I got a brochure of an Admiral AW22 toploader and that says that it can hold 22 lbs of laundry.
Louis
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Post# 2222-6/28/2001-12:49 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
Cu Ft V ersus Kg
MESSAGE: Hi guys
this new Whirlpool seems to be causing a good debate, does any of the literature state the dry weight of washing i.e. 7KG
Quite a few British and European manufacturers have just introduced the largest 7KG drum machines, and of these the drum size does vary between different machines. The biggest drum of all 7kg machines I have seen is the Dyson, very impressive, and the cabinet is 24inches square, but literature hear doesnt seem to state the cubic capacity of the drum.
So are we looking at this machine being around 9/10kg or am I still crap at maths, do tell????
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 2223-6/28/2001-13:18 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Cu Ft V ersus Kg
MESSAGE: Mike,
I think you might be right. 20lbs is around 9 kilogrammes. But when you convert the 3.4 cubic feet to litres, that would give around 96 litres. According to European standards there would be space for around 10 kilogrammes of laundry. 3.2 lbs gives around 90 litres.
Louis
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Post# 2224-6/28/2001-17:13 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Cu Ft V ersus Kg
MESSAGE: 10 Pounds - White Cottons and Linens
4 Bath Towels
4 Wash Cloths
5 Hand Towels
2 Men's Shirts
1 Double Sheet
4 Pillow Cases
1 Small Table Cloth
4 Napkins
Jean Shaw
Director, Home Economics Lab.
Sears, Roebuck and Co.
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Post# 2225-6/28/2001-18:39 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
New Frigidaire pair in my future
MESSAGE: I was listening to my voice mail at work this afternoon and I had a message from a used appliance place in Augusta. The guy said he had a Frigidaire washer. I called and asked if it was one that the agitator went up and down and he said yes. He waited for me until I could get there and it was indeed a 1-18.
It was one with a florescent light in the control panel. I checked it out. Htere wasn't even a knick in hte agitator; no rust and the bed of nails filter looked as if lint had never passed through it! As I was examining the washer, he said would you be interested in the dryer? He had the matching dryer in the back of his shop. PeterH, I looks like the one you have. Can't remember all the details but I do remember there was some kind of red indicator light on the control panel. I made him an offer on the pair and he counter offered. I still haven't sealed the deal because I want to trde him those two newer dryers I have. Perhaps I can get him to look at hte kenmore 900, too. He said he had the dispenser I needed.
It's going to be so hard to work tomorrow. I want to get my hands on the pair.
By the way, the washer model is: WIS. The dryer is model: DCIT. They are coppertone and the lid does not have a window.
Steve 1-18
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Post# 2226-6/28/2001-21:33 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Frigidaire pair in my future
MESSAGE: Coppertone Frigidaires sure were popular. Must be that time period.
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Post# 2227-6/28/2001-22:10 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Frigidaire pair in my future
MESSAGE: Congrats Steve - this is a very nice sounding pair! What fun to find a 1-18 with a light (two on the dryer!) Can't wait to see the pics this weekend.
I would have to take the day off, or at least 1/2 of it!
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Post# 2228-6/28/2001-22:32 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Cu Ft V ersus Kg
MESSAGE: i thought that cubic feet would be a much more accurate measurement of washing capacity than kg. it seems that you cant claim an unrealistic size if you go by measurement, rather than a kg load size claim. I found that as new models are realeased in Australia, the claimed load capacity in KGs are increased, but the tub stays the same size. For Simpsons lated range, the same size tub claims 6.5 KG, 7.5 KG and 8KG.
The Same goes for Samsung with a model just released that claims 9.5KG. I remember a Choice test that showed a Norge washer that claimed a 9KG capacity. They took a photo of the machine with nine kilos inside it and they couldnt close the lid!!!
The higher the claimed load capacity, the better an energy rating it recieves. people are also stupid enought to by a model that says its bigger over the other one too.
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Post# 2229-6/28/2001-23:49 ||| worldtravler (Detroit/Ypsilanti, MI)
SUBJECT:
'72 Kenmore dryer on ebay
MESSAGE: I found this on ebay tonight and thought some of you might be interested. From what I can tell, this machine is item number 26K72706N from the '72 S/S Sears catalog or 26H72706N from the F/W. I see no difference in the machines except that it went up in price by $5 in the winter months. Is there anyone in Georgia interested??
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1250160088
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Post# 2230-6/29/2001-05:36 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Westy set on Ebay (110 Monitor Tops)
MESSAGE: I know I'd love to see 110 Monitor Tops in real time!!! And I thought I was obssessive!!!
jetcone
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Post# 2231-6/29/2001-05:38 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlmore brochure--washer (3.7 drum size possible )
MESSAGE: Admiral AW22? Was that a Norge machine? ANybody????
jon
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Post# 2232-6/29/2001-05:40 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Cu Ft V ersus Kg (Thief!!!)
MESSAGE: Jean stole that laundry recipie off the lid of a 1956 GE Filter-Flo!!!!
jet
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Post# 2233-6/29/2001-05:44 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Frigidaire pair in my future (How Odd)
MESSAGE: Steve the only lighted 1-18 I know of is the TOL Three Speed Model and it always came with a windowed lid. Did it say anywhere in the panel Three Speed? Or did it have an extra cycle called Hand Wash???
Congrats on your find! Maybe its the Imperial Model that I have not seen yet in the 1-18 line...........hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
jet
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Post# 2234-6/29/2001-06:56 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Frigidaire pair in my future (1st Year Model)
MESSAGE: That is a very cool find Steve. The reason being is the WIS is a 1970 model, the very first year that 1/18s were produced!
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Post# 2235-6/29/2001-07:25 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Frigidaire pair in my future
MESSAGE: Steve, all I can say is DAMN!!!
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Post# 2236-6/29/2001-07:27 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Frigidaire pair in my future (How Odd)
MESSAGE: WIS isn't the TOL, 3-speed model. It's one step down from the top of the line. 2 Speed with a lighted panel, no glass. TOL is the WCIS that had the Hand Wash setting.
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Post# 2237-6/29/2001-08:08 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlmore brochure--washer (3.7 drum size possible )
MESSAGE: The drum does not have to swing at all. In my Creda, as the machine drains, the speed of the cylinder picks up gradually and the clothes are held to the side. As the speed gradually increases, the machine can detect an unbalance situation at a very low speed and halts the progression of the cycle into spin. The cylinder returns to a tumble to reposition the load and makes another attempt. It was quite interesting to watch the first time. If a poor Creda can use a system like this, I am sure that people making a better quality machine can come up with something to prevent an unbalanced load from causing too much sideways motion. Tom
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Post# 2238-6/29/2001-08:23 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Frigidaire pair in my future (Frigidaire 1/18)
MESSAGE: Sounds like a real cool set
I hope you get it
Peter
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Post# 2239-6/29/2001-08:29 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: VCCC Convention (WH combo)
MESSAGE: Tom, the famous heater box rust out in WH combos. I heard about those from service men for years. I think it had to be a worse combo than the GE which at least did not rust itself to pieces. Poor design and such cheapness on WH's part in their refusal to use one square inch of porcelain that was not visible doomed those machines. The only one we have seen in the last decade was some sort of monument to rust from the inside out.
You were lucky to be able to bring an appliance home. When I hauled home a BIG 33" WP combo in 68, I thought my family was going to have a cow. My brother and mother could haul in all the antique furniture crap that they could find, but I could not have an old appliance, although I probably had the joy of using more new ones than anyone would believe. I must admit that they did make some real finds and I am going to enjoy the way the stuff has appreciated when it becomes mine and is auctioned off. Tom
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Post# 2240-6/29/2001-08:53 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Cu Ft V ersus Kg
MESSAGE: Ah yes, the small tablecloth and 4 napkins, always in a white load with the one double bed sheet and the two shirts. I wash the light colored shirts together in one load and the bedding in another unless I have very few shirts and wash them with the sheets in the KA. I cannot imagine having sheets for one bed in two separate loads. I knew one family with a standard capacity WP and all the sheets and pillow cases for three beds were washed in one overload I think clothes dryers sort of started the laundering of similar weight fabrics together so that the load would dry evenly. I learned early on that sheets and towels don't make for balanced loads in an agitator top loader because the agitator sorts them and they wind up on opposite sides of the tub. May Jean Shaw rest in balanced peace with her load containing no more than two large pieces and the remainder made up of smaller items. Tom
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Post# 2241-6/29/2001-08:59 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Cu Ft V ersus Kg
MESSAGE: Arrroooohhhh, all the size claims for washer capacity are made by men and men have shown no reliability for having size claims about anything agree with reality. Tom
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Post# 2242-6/29/2001-10:07 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: '72 Kenmore dryer on ebay (Another one!!!!)
MESSAGE: See? I'm not kidding!!! The 72's are in SEASON!!!
-ph
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Post# 2243-6/29/2001-11:50 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT:
RE: '72 Kenmore dryer on ebay (Another one!!!!)
MESSAGE: get out your hunting gear it is the season even in South Carolina
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Post# 2244-6/29/2001-14:57 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Frigidaire pair in my future (How Odd)
MESSAGE: That's possible Jet...I've come to discover there are a lot of "models" produced here and there that don't necessarily conform to the main line as depicted in Greg's Tech Talk books.
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Post# 2245-6/29/2001-15:00 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Cu Ft V ersus Kg
MESSAGE: ...or reliability in any other areas for that matter, Tom...excellent observation!
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Post# 2246-6/29/2001-18:20 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Cu Ft V ersus Kg (Tom is so funny)
MESSAGE: hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!! very good!!!
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Post# 2247-6/29/2001-21:46 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Frigidaire pair in my future (The washer pics)
MESSAGE: Here is the link to the washer. I haven't run it, yet, but I had to plug it in and see if the light worked. It did, as you can see.
I am wheeling and dealing with the guy that sold me the pair. The 80's Kenmore and Whirlpool dryers and in return, he fixes my Kenmore 900.
Steve 1-18
ps: he had at least 2 gold variflex agitators in the shop on a shelf.
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/svb14_1953/lst?.view=t&.dir=/Mr.+Brown+II
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Post# 2248-6/29/2001-21:48 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Frigidaire pair in my future (How Odd)
MESSAGE: I believe that the one that PeterH has with the lighted panel is the 3 speed.
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Post# 2249-6/29/2001-21:58 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Frigidaire pair in my future (1/18 )
MESSAGE: Steve this is a gem & looks like it is in good shape. Do you know what year it's from? Best of Luck!
Peter
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Post# 2250-6/29/2001-00:42 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Frigidaire pair in my future
MESSAGE: Congratulations Steve, I hope you can come to an agreement with the dealer. Ofcourse we're all waiting for pictures. Louis
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Post# 2251-6/29/2001-00:51 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Frigidaire pair in my future (The washer pics)
MESSAGE: Steve, that is a fabulous machine! I'm so happy you have it, it is in beautiful condition. It is styled and featured more like my mom's than any of the other 1-18s I have seen pictures of in the club so far.
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Post# 2252-6/29/2001-01:07 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlmore brochure--washer (3.7 drum size possible )
MESSAGE: Jon, here's a picture of one of the pages of the brochure. There are also a dryer and fridges in it. Louis
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius?e&.intl=us&.flabel=fld1&.from=d&.pindex=24&start=9999&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius%3fd%26.flabel=fld1%26.intl=us%26.src=ph
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Post# 2253-6/29/2001-01:09 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Frigidaire pair in my future (1971+)
MESSAGE: Wow! This is a very cool find - and in remarkable condition for it's age too! And lights....you know we like lights!
In 1971 Frigidaire started painting the side panels of the colored laundry appliances a solid color instead of the darker edged finish that is on the front panel.
Best of luck with your new babies! Greg
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Post# 2254-6/29/2001-01:19 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Frigidaire pair in my future (The washer pics)
MESSAGE: Steve, thank you for the pictures, this washer really looks like new. Is the dryer in the same condition? That would make a really handsome couple. Louis
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Post# 2255-6/30/2001-06:04 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT:
August convention
MESSAGE: I dont think i'm going to make it to the convention in August. Its my weekend to work and no one to replace me. Also after buying a car, there just went airfare:( Maybe next year unless something changes.
SD
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Post# 2256-6/30/2001-06:52 ||| jetcirclefill (Pensacola, Fl)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlmore brochure--washer (Pfaff ironer)
MESSAGE: Louis, Very insteresting pictures. The ironer looks like it has it has the same drive and roller set up as Iron-rite. Its a shame we can't get this type of equiptment over here.
Tom
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Post# 2257-6/30/2001-07:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Frigidaire pair in my future (How pretty)
MESSAGE: Wow, nice machine Steve. If I had a 1/18 I would want it to be a '70 model, because you can't get any more vintage in 1/18's that! Great Find!!
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Post# 2258-6/30/2001-09:03 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlmore brochure--washer (Pfaff ironer)
MESSAGE: Tom, the Pfaff picture is just a picture from the internet. I guess you must have browsed the album. Have you seen all the albums? In my favourite appliances there are the pictures of my own two ironers, a Bosch and an AEG.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius?a&.intl=us&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius%3fd%26.intl=us%26.flabel=fld1%26.src=ph
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Post# 2259-6/30/2001-09:58 ||| RobGwisdala (Troy Ohio 45373)
SUBJECT:
RE: Uni Saves the Day (Unimatic1140)
MESSAGE: Hi Gary.
I am so glad Mr. Seger(Unimatic1140) saved your 1979 20 pound capacity Monkey Wards washer.
Your 1979 Norge/Magic Chef design washer is a good quality machine. It is built better and it performs better than the 2001 Maytag Atlantis washer(Norge/Magic Chef design) with the stainless steel washbasket.
Please do me and everyone else a favor in this club. Please KEEP your washer and matching dryer for as long as possible.
Rob
ps= Does your washer still wash/rinse/spin very well?
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Post# 2260-6/30/2001-11:55 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT:
Okay you Maytag fans......
MESSAGE: I was just killing a little time on the "puter" today and surfing on "ebay" (I have recently bought a DVD Player for my home theater system (an entry level Toshiba SD-1600 so that I can get my feet wet.......... though I love classic appliances too, but high-end audio/high-end home theater is my first love and is MY main hobby.......... but anyway, I am currently shopping for a higher-end model of a DVD Player (i.e.-- either a Sony DVP-S7700 ($450.00 to $700.00 used), a Pioneer Elite DV-09 ($800.00 to $1,000.00 used) or a Pioneer Elite DV-37 ($600.00 to $800.00 brand new, and is a newer model than the DV-09)) and I happened to type in Maytag just for the hell of it, and I have found a vintage 1970's Maytag Washer and Dryer pair (in gold, I believe). This is a deluxe pair that have lighted consoles. If you are interested in checking out this pair, you can go to ebay and just type in "Maytag" and the scroll down until you find it (I don't remember the URL, so I cannot type it in........ thanks).
Have a great day everyone.
--Charles--
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Post# 2261-6/30/2001-12:01 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Okay you Maytag fans......
MESSAGE: Okay, here's the link.
Thanks.....
--Charles--
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBay/SAPl.dll?ViewItem&item=1250144086
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Post# 2262-6/30/2001-12:05 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Okay you Maytag fans......
MESSAGE: Well, I attempted to post the link, and it didn't work. So, just go back to my original post and check it out. The pair is pictured by the link.
Thanks........
--Charles--
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Post# 2263-6/30/2001-14:39 ||| JETCONE (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Cu Ft V ersus Kg
MESSAGE: AMEN TO THAT ONE TOM!!!!
jon
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Post# 2264-6/30/2001-14:48 ||| JETCONE (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Frigidaire pair in my future (How Odd)
MESSAGE: Steve GEORGEOUS FIND!! I love the root beer color and the chrome looks MINT!
Wouldn't we all be agog over that machine coming across it in 1970 on the showroom floor??? Just like this new Whirlmore pair that are about to debut before us in August.
jet
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Post# 2265-6/30/2001-14:56 ||| JETCONE (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: August convention
MESSAGE: Wow Scott are you sure?? I just took the Pulsamatic up to Maine this morning to be shipped to Uni for the Convention.
Please try to come, jet
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Post# 2266-6/30/2001-15:22 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
Speed Queen stackable on Excite
MESSAGE: Until now I have not seen a picture on this club of this stackable Speed Queen, so I thought it was best to post the link here. Looks quite interesting to me. Louis
LINK: http://www.classifieds2000.com/cgi-cls/ad.exe?P1+C184+A0+R1771248+Q353599368
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Post# 2267-6/30/2001-16:29 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT:
RE: Speed Queen stackable on Excite
MESSAGE: A unit just like that is at the Used Appliance Center where I go to all the time. I believe that I did take picts of it some time ago. Maybe in March. I think John has one too.
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Post# 2268-6/30/2001-16:33 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Speed Queen stackable on Excite
MESSAGE: Louis, I have never seen one like this either! It looks like the washer is a FL too. Thanks for sharing that.
Eddy
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Post# 2269-6/30/2001-17:19 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Speed Queen stackable on Excite (magazine ad)
MESSAGE: Here is an ad for the SQ stack set. They were actually top-loading washers - I think they were the size of their normal top loaders that were hinged at the bottom front enabling them to be tipped out for loading and unloading. The dryer was about the same size as a freestanding dryer, maybe a little smaller, I only saw one once. The dryer did have a (small) window to make it more dramatic. They weren't around for too long in the SQ line, I think they would have been a service nightmare.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1?e&.intl=us&.flabel=fld3&.from=d&.pindex=27&start=25&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1%3fd%26.flabel=fld3%26.intl=us%26.src=ph
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Post# 2270-6/30/2001-17:32 ||| tucker (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
Sat Appliance Hunting Pics (just a side note =) )
MESSAGE: Hi everyone,
Long time no chat. I've been enjoying the site alot. Is it just me or does anyone else notice the last cycle used on the sat hunt pics, or the burial ground pics. Seems lately I've seen people using Perm Press and Gently on at couple of Uni's pic, the last one was a Kenmore (you can tell where the dial was set) and before that was a Whirlpool from quite a few posts ago.
Just wondering if there are any other which cycle did they use last guys out there. I like seeing the machines from the graveyards and telling where they gave up on the machine, seems its usually low water level on Normal.
Take care everyone =)
~Steven
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Post# 2271-6/30/2001-23:54 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Speed Queen stackable on Excite (magazine ad)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the pictures Louis and Greg. I hadn't seen that set before either. How funny that the washer can tip forward for access! I wonder if that was hard on the suspension system or anything else in the washer?
Todd
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Post# 2272-7/1/2001-02:05 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Speed Queen stackable on Excite (magazine ad)
MESSAGE: Thank you Greg for sharing the picture of the ad. Was the washer supposed to be attached to the wall behind it? I guess it could easily fall over if you accidentally leaned on it too hard. I wonder what happened when the pump broke down during a cycle. Louis
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Post# 2273-7/1/2001-03:05 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Speed Queen stackable on Excite (magazine ad)
MESSAGE: I would imagine there would have to be some method of securing this unit to a back wall or floor (as well as locking the washer unit while operating) as there would be some danger of the whole thing tipping out if leaned on, or climbed on. Perhaps John and Tom will shed some more light on this unit for us...... A good idea, but frought with flaws it would seem!
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Post# 2274-7/1/2001-07:55 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT:
RE: August convention
MESSAGE: I'll try but it doesnt look to good at this point:(
SD
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Post# 2275-7/1/2001-08:46 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
Bad news and good news
MESSAGE: On the risk of not being taken serious anymore I have to share the latest news from the other side of the ocean. I talked to my upstairs neighbour today and she told me everything goes fine with her move, so I can move too. Only thing is, she doesn't manage to move at the moment she planned but perhaps a month later. That's the bad news. The good news is that that means I might be able to visit the convention. I have to do some planning again and my visit to the US will not be as long as I planned before, but I will at least try to visit the convention. I let you guys know when I know more. Louis
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Post# 2276-7/1/2001-10:08 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: August convention
MESSAGE: Scott please come if you can, we'd love to meet you.
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Post# 2277-7/1/2001-10:11 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Bad news and good news (YAY YAY YAY YAY YAY)
MESSAGE: Louis, maybe this is good news all the way around. You get your new apartment as well as coming to the convention!! Louis, PLEASE come if you can. I know everyone would have a big kick introducing you to automatic washers that we all grew up with!
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Post# 2278-7/1/2001-11:29 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Bad news and good news
MESSAGE: Wonderful news! Hopefully things will work out for you coming to the convention. Let us know if there is anything we can do! There's nothing better than "getting it all" -- your new apartment and a vacation!!
Keep us posted - Greg
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Post# 2279-7/1/2001-11:45 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
Did I Miss One?
MESSAGE: The Midwest Gay & Lesbian Rodeo is in town this weekend and a friend and I went out last night to the bar where all the fans and participants go for some dancing and fun. I saw a friend that I've not seen in some time and he was telling me about a washer that he'd seen at an estate sale a few weeks back. He described the house and I remember the sale and the house. He claimed there was a newer washer and dryer, but the old washer had been shoved back into a corner. He couldn't tell me much about it, but apparently it was very cool and sounded quite old. I remember there was a 80's Maytag washer and a 80's White-Westinghouse dryer, but didn't see any old washer. Looks like I'll have to be a little more careful at the sales!
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Post# 2280-7/1/2001-14:55 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: We certainly found our share of fun things yesterday and we found a Lady Kenmore Set that a few of you guys are going to go ga-ga over!
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/estatesale4/lst?&.dir=/Estate+Sale+Saturday+June+30+2001&.src=ph&.begin=9999&.view=t&.order=&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/estatesale4/lst%3f%26.dir=/Estate%2bSale%2bSaturday%2bJune%2b30%2b2001%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 2281-7/1/2001-15:55 ||| RobGwisdala (Troy Ohio 45373)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (1974-75 Lady Kenmore Set)
MESSAGE: Attention Club Members=
The "1973" Lady Kenmore set is really an 1974-75 set.
I could tell by the markings on the control panel.
I also could tell by the plastic tub ring and the "Penta Swirl" agitator.
The plastic tub ring and the Penta Swirl agitator was introduced in 1974.
I also have two Sears catalogs from 1974.
1974 Spring Summer
1974 Fall Winter
This Lady Kenmore set is in my 1974 Spring Summer catalog.
Rob
ps= I am very interested in this set...It is my most favorite set from Sears Roebuck and Co.
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Post# 2282-7/1/2001-16:49 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Robert,
Congratulations on the new TV. Did you get the Kenmore set? It sure is a wonderful set, worth saving.
Louis
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Post# 2283-7/1/2001-17:23 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: No, I thought it was a 1973 set Louis, had I know it was a 1974 set I surely would have bought it. Now You Tell Me Rob!
NLWOFTN
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Post# 2284-7/1/2001-18:28 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Thanks Robert--my education today was, I never had seen a Myg EC dryer that didn't include the normal/more dry & low/regualr heat buttons.
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Post# 2285-7/1/2001-19:13 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
jakins--30" flair frigidaire range on ebay
MESSAGE: It's in High Springs, FL.
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Post# 2286-7/1/2001-19:13 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
pumper there's a 40" flair range in Scottsdale, AZ
MESSAGE: On Ebay. Just one day left to bid.
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Post# 2287-7/1/2001-20:46 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
Club Libraries and Product Literature
MESSAGE: Hi everybody,
Robert, I'm sure you're a very busy guy, but I was just wondering when you will be getting around to loading more info in the website, filling some of those libraries. Also, I've got a lot of old 1950's Good Housekeeping magazines if you'd like some additional interesting old ads for the "photo of the day." I'd be happy to send them to you. Let me know.
Ken
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Post# 2288-7/1/2001-22:05 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT:
RE: pumper there's a 40" flair range in Scottsdale, AZ
MESSAGE: yes i just saw it, now if someone in phoenix would just auction off some washers!
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Post# 2289-7/1/2001-23:24 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Club Libraries and Product Literature
MESSAGE: Hi Ken, I plan on doing more web site work early in the fall after the convention (sep/oct). I wont have any time between now and the convention of course, but after that I should be able to add more things and features to the site.
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Post# 2290-7/1/2001-00:29 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Great pictures Robert. The Lady Kenmore set is fantastic! Like brand new. I love the flip up console covers, very reminiscent of the "peek-a-boo" headlights on cars of the early 70's. Great score on the TV too. I hope it works or just needs tubes. As a kid my family's first color TV set was a Motorola, back in '68. I kept it and kept repairing it unitl just few years ago. It must have had 3 million hours on it.
Todd
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Post# 2291-7/2/2001-06:00 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Frigidaire pair in my future (The washer pics)
MESSAGE: Steve, are those colors in the lines on the light lens, or just light tricks? Neat and rare machine. Frigidaire was big on "drop in" models to their line over the years. Congrats. Tom
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Post# 2292-7/2/2001-06:09 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Speed Queen stackable on Excite
MESSAGE: Sorry, but the washer is not a FL. The whole washer mechanism tilts out at an angle for loading and unloading and is locked in place during the cycle. Tom
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Post# 2293-7/2/2001-06:21 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sat Appliance Hunting Pics (just a side note =) )
MESSAGE: Steven, you would not believe it, but there are women out there who will not use the normal cycle, even for things like towels, or if they have speed settings, won't use fast or normal. John is constantly amazed by customers who do this, inspite of how much it is costing them to dry the wet stuff in the dryer. There are other explanations also. Sometimes the timer contacts get bad in the cycle that is used all the time and only the delicate or PP cycles work reliably. Often these are the only cycles that can be used to get laundry done before a repair or replacement. The other thing is that since most of these sightings are at estate sales you have to factor in older people wtih smaller loads of laundry and the fact that if you are using a low water level, which in some low end machines is very low, the gentle agitation is often enough. Tom
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Post# 2294-7/2/2001-06:23 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Bad news and good news
MESSAGE: Louis, how wonderful that you might be able to join us! Sorry for the other complication, but it looks like the appliance force is with you on this. Tom
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Post# 2295-7/2/2001-06:41 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Robert, thanks for the neat pics. That poor second house was being eaten by something green. If it was down south, I'd swear it could be kudzoo. The LK dryer was like the one we found once when you were here. That was the one that fried two electronic controls or else it was the 37K BTU burner I transplanted into it that got them. Cool TV too. Will Gary be at the convention? Can you imagine when these carloads of appliance queens descend on a house during the convention? I can just see everyone trying to get down the basement stairs and getting jammed in so tight that they almost have to call the rescue squad. Tom
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Post# 2296-7/2/2001-06:48 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Bob, those were late coming to the machine. It was not until the gold band on the control panel and the larger drum that those came about. All through the 60s and up to the mid-late 70s the 4 settings were it with the modified Highlander control. The way to get "more dry" was to use PermaPress according to Maytag unless you had some modification done to the control like CU mentioned in their first rating of it. I think they were the only brand to have EC before a time/temp auto dry. Tom
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Post# 2297-7/2/2001-06:50 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Todd, were those 3 million operating hours or hours of service on it? Tom :-)
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Post# 2298-7/2/2001-07:09 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
Maytag A102 gets new agitator
MESSAGE: A couple of weeks ago, I took the Agitamer to the Gyrator and lifted it off,but the spline remained on the top of the tranny. Saturday, John decided to drill two holes in the aluminum tube from the top down and use a chisel to break it off. That went well and I was able to put a short black powerfin from a 106 in it with a chrome softener dispenser/filter on top to at least keep the colors stock. I had two loads of bath sheets to wash. I usually do the first load in the WO 65-2 and pump the wash water into one of the Maytags by coupling the drain hoses together to wash the second load. This makes for neat burps and gurgles as the machine fills from the bottom. The wash in the A102 went well with much better turn over than with the Gyrator, but the real test is the take down in the rinse. When rinse agitation started everything was underwater by the third stroke and well rolled by the end. The increased agitation speed from the 50 cycle pulley makes the power fin work on the old slower transmission. The really unique thing about this timer is that after the spin rinse, it spins for another 3 minutes instead of just one which provides more time for spin spraying for really thorough rinsing. I have not found another Maytag timer that offers this extra spin time. Tom
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Post# 2299-7/2/2001-08:26 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Frigidaire pair in my future (The washer pics)
MESSAGE: Now, that's my kind of washer... Give me one cycle with the manual speed selection! All it's missing is the soak-advance-to-wash option! Congrats Steve! It's a beauty!!!
-ph
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Post# 2300-7/2/2001-08:28 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Frigidaire pair in my future (How Odd)
MESSAGE: I have the 3 speed WCI with light, 8 fabric selections, 1978 model I beleive, with matching dryer. I have the 1978 WIA also, 6 fabric selections, connected as my primary washer. The same model in the 1979 literature that Greg posted is the WIB.
-ph
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Post# 2301-7/2/2001-08:34 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Speed Queen stackable on Excite (magazine ad)
MESSAGE: The dryer is full size, the same dryer that SQ put into the commercial stacked dryers.
-ph
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Post# 2302-7/2/2001-08:59 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag A102 gets new agitator
MESSAGE: Great Tom, I've had to drill, hacksaw, chisel a few of those Maytag Gyrator Splines myself, YUK, not a fun job. But it usually doesn't take very long.
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Post# 2303-7/2/2001-09:01 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
Pic of the Day
MESSAGE: I am stumped - what is the brand?
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Post# 2304-7/2/2001-09:08 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Frigidaire pair in my future (The washer pics)
MESSAGE: A permanent press cool down for those without dryers. And the inability to get a fast wash and slow spin and vice versa. TT
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Post# 2305-7/2/2001-09:18 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag A102 gets new agitator
MESSAGE: Right Robert, thanks to Maytag's use of aluminum. Even when it corrodes, it is soft enough to remove by destruction. She is one tough little washer now. Maybe when Jason is here we will take a picture of her with a full size agitator, maybe even the Load Sensor sticking up out of her since A102 is still used without a lid. We could do a sex change and instead of Long Dong Silver we could have Mega Meat Man Maytag. Tom
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Post# 2306-7/2/2001-09:19 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pic of the Day
MESSAGE: Peter, Bendix!
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Post# 2307-7/2/2001-09:23 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (I had the same sick thought)
MESSAGE: is that state ready for this convention ... who ever has an estate sale that week will have a load of entertainment
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Post# 2308-7/2/2001-09:33 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pic of the Day (Pic)
MESSAGE: The 1 with the rubber tub?
Right
Thanks,
Peter
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Post# 2309-7/2/2001-11:21 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag A102 gets new agitator
MESSAGE: Tom, is a "gyrator" the wringer washer agitator that some of the lower end automatics also had? The black agitator you put in, is that the same as the aqua ones only black, or are the black ones with the attached fins and built in filter also called power fins? Scott
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Post# 2310-7/2/2001-11:34 ||| estate-sale-gary (Golden Valley, MN)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (Yeah, I'll be at the convention...)
MESSAGE: I'm looking forward to meeting everyone that I hear (and read) about during the convention. There is a big fleamarket that a group of us go to every year during the third weekend in August, so I'll probably show up Friday or Saturday night for one of the washer parties. Estate sales should be very entertaining...especially when 5 people realize they want the same machine(s)!
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Post# 2311-7/2/2001-12:12 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pic of the Day (Pic)
MESSAGE: Given the trim, I am more inclined to think that those are a little later and that is probably the energy disc washer with the metal tub. I don't remember gold trim being on the Economats, but I am not sure. I think that there were Economats produced at the time of the energy disc machines, but it would have been near the end for them and for Bendix. I think Philco Bendix carried on for a while with both machines before introducing the Automagic. Tom
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Post# 2312-7/2/2001-12:28 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag A102 gets new agitator
MESSAGE: Scott, even the red agitator on our home page is a Gyrator. Until Maytag started calling them Lint Filter Agitators, they were Gyrators and produced Gyrafoam Washing Action, whether of the narrow post or the wider post design. The black agitator I used is polypropelene like the aqua ones, with the fin design that gives better roll over, but the cheap one for the A106. The commercial version would not accept the filter, but most of the home ones could have the aqua filter on the black agitator, a bit of Maytag tackiness, although I saw some early versions of the 106 agitator that did not have the filter. To the best of my knowledge the black ones with attached fins that I have seen were the Bakelite agitators that were either Gyrators or Lint Filter Agitators and the polypropelene agitators were power fins. Has anyone seen exceptions to this from maybe the transition when the large capacity 06 machines had the new faster tranny and the standard cap machines did not? If so, there are more I have to collect. There was a long time when I avoided looking at Maytags, but find that as time has passed, I have joined many of my immigrant and first generation relatives in believing Maytag was a good machine, not the best, but good with my modifications. Tom
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Post# 2313-7/2/2001-12:32 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pic of the Day (1957-58 Economat)
MESSAGE: This looks like an Economat (rubber tub) from early 1957 - the gold trim and oval logo on the front is the give-away. The Philco-Bendix literature I have is from right at the change to Philco-Bendix in late 57. They used the Bendix printed material with PHILCO in block letters added onto the sheets later. The energy disc - Power Surge washers were introduced in 56 but I don't have the complete set for 1957 so they may have been around then too. This was the first time that Bendix offered a Formica top on the Economat and TOL models were available in "Color Glo" colors - pink, yellow & green.
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Post# 2314-7/2/2001-12:41 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag A102 gets new agitator
MESSAGE: Tom, my mom's friend's A206 standard capacity machine had the black attached fin agitator with the aqua filter top and softener cup. The lint filter portion was a softer, "meshier" type thing, not the hard plastic like the later ones. Thanks for the explanation of the various agitators. S
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Post# 2315-7/2/2001-12:42 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag A102 gets new agitator
MESSAGE: Thank all that is sacred for that 50 cycle pulley. A good friend has the slow tranny in her machine and was very impressed with my modified machine's performance. Although very inflexible my pushbutton A906 is very good, well built machine, the modifications just improve it! Not much on the drama end, but reliable, satisfactory results.
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Post# 2316-7/2/2001-12:48 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (Big Flea Market with lots of royalty)
MESSAGE: Gary, would this be a possibility for any of us to attend? Is it Saturday and Sunday or maybe Friday also? We are coming in on Thursday and leaving Tuesday. Would we need to audition for you and your friends to make sure that we would not embarrass you? If I fail the audition could I still attend and just not be in the same areas? I promise not enter the Corn Queen Contest or get confused in a milking contest and grab one of the judges or whatever if this is something with agrarian entertainment. I am thinking that a huge flea market would be less frustrating than an estate sale. Is it far from Vaseline, I mean Golden Valley? Maybe we could have both options for convention attendees? Robert, any thoughts on this? Am I ruining your plans? Is this the "Shut up Rose" moment? Tom
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Post# 2317-7/2/2001-13:02 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag A102 gets new agitator
MESSAGE: Scott, was the filter sort of white plastic mesh? That was before the whole thing was the same turquoise color and the little square holes made up the filter. See, that question about the agitators you bring up is what I wonder about. Did Maytag make the Bakelite agitator design in polypropelene (or was it still Bakelite?) for the short tub machines before they changed the whole line up over to the faster agitation speed and Power Fins? I don't know, but I do know that the Power Fin design with the fins higher on the barrel and lower at the edge of the skirt (what is he talking about guns or dresses?) gives better roll over in the narrow Maytag tubs. I guess we need to see some Maytag literature from the beginning of the 06 line. Thanks, but I don't stink I answered much of anything. Tom
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Post# 2318-7/2/2001-13:15 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag A102 gets new agitator
MESSAGE: Greg, I was telling John that if Maytag had pushed the new Power Fin Agitator and the 50 cycle pulley as a way to upgrade their older washers like Frigidaire pushed the Jet Action retrofit for the Three Ring of sacred memory, they could have done wonders, but I guess since most users could not see what was happening nobody cared. What a world, what a world! Tom
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Post# 2319-7/2/2001-13:18 ||| estate-sale-gary (Golden Valley, MN)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (Gary only sees the sights a girl can see from Brooklyn Heights)
MESSAGE: The fleamarket is far enough south that we stay in a hotel (starting Thursday and coming home Sunday). This year, I'm cutting out early so that I can come back for the Saturday night party. In a side note, you'd have plenty of competition for the Corn Queen title...isn't that a Nebraska slogan? Rob, doesn't Greg win by default? And aren't you funny...I do live in Golden Valley but am never far from Vaseline.
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Post# 2320-7/2/2001-13:24 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag A102 gets new agitator
MESSAGE: Tom,
Do you have the aqua Power Fin that had the 4 rounded "bump" fins from the closed barrel to the end of the skirt? I guessed that the bump fins were to channel detergent and softener that was added to the barrel to the end of the skirt and aid in dissipating the additives thru the load.
-ph
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Post# 2321-7/2/2001-13:32 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (Big Flea Market with lots of royalty)
MESSAGE: Hi Tom, that would be fun, but that flea market they go to is near the Iowa boarder and its about 2.5 hours away, plus they stay the whole weekend.
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Post# 2322-7/2/2001-16:55 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (The Lady Kenmore Washer and Dryer set at estate sale.....)
MESSAGE: Hello Uni:
I have checked out your weekend pictures (as usual) just like I do every week, and while sometimes you don't always find something interesting for us to check out, other times, you do.
Now, as for the Lady Kenmore set that I just saw today?? I have to agree with Rob on this one. The Lady Kenmore set I have saw is a 1974-75 pair. THAT very pair is pictured in my 1975 S/S Sears Catalog. That was the VERY LAST "keyboard" Lady Kenmore ever produced (and that was one of the ones I wasn't too crazy about either. In fact, I didn't care for the 1968 or the 1969-75 models either. And especially, the 1974-75 model. That was the model they have stripped down to practically nothing (they took out the three speed motor and put in a two speed one to save money..... and they took out the "Vari-Flex" agitator and put in a "Penta-Swril (the VERY SAME agitator our 1978 Kenmore had)" one to again, save money) and then had the nerve to charge an arm and a leg for it ($360.00 according to my 1975 catalog). And this was right after you could get a similar model with a three speed motor and a Vari-Flex agitator for under $300.00 back in 1969).
Those weren't bad machines back in their day either. But I'm afraid that I wasn't too crazy about them. While I may agree with Rob as to what vintage those Lady Kenmores are, we disagree as to what our personal preferences are. I believe Rob likes them. I, on the other hand, prefer to land a 1966-67 (the original "keyboard" model) set if I were to start a collection. Nice try, though. I have to admit.
However, those were some nice Maytags though.
--Charles--
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Post# 2323-7/2/2001-18:12 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag A102 gets new agitator
MESSAGE: That's the agitator I have on my 906. If I remember my Maytag agitator history correctly, was the transition from the fixed-fin to the power fin and the "humps" were the channels for the filter and dispenser. I like the old style with the "shroud" or under-skirt with more opening for water to circulate. It seems with my humps, there isn't enough water moving through the filter.
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Post# 2324-7/2/2001-18:19 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag A102 gets new agitator
MESSAGE: Wedge the clothes in; sprinkle soap over the top of the load and the machine; drop the lid; select cold water wash and rinse; come back a couple of days later and complain about poor performance......
Might be a bit exaggerated, but only a bit! What a world, what world!
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Post# 2325-7/2/2001-19:42 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (What town is this??)
MESSAGE: I'm driving that way, if it's along I35, maybe a fun stop to or from the convention...
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Post# 2326-7/2/2001-19:43 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (What town is this??)
MESSAGE: Gotta snatch that Corn Queen crown - again!
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Post# 2327-7/2/2001-20:00 ||| jetcirclefill (Pensacola, Fl)
SUBJECT:
Frigidaire Historical Collection
MESSAGE: Has anyone ever checked what WSU has in their archives on GM Frigidaire?
Tom
LINK: http://libnet.wright.edu/staff/dunbar/arch/ms262.htm
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Post# 2328-7/2/2001-20:29 ||| jetcirclefill (Pensacola, Fl)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlmore brochure--washer (Pfaff ironer)
MESSAGE: Thanks. How often do you use them? With my Ironrite I had to be in the mood to use it. Some times it was faster just to get out the iron and ironing board.
Tom
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Post# 2329-7/2/2001-22:16 ||| RobGwisdala (Troy Ohio 45373)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (1974-75 Lady Kenmore Keyboard Set)
MESSAGE: Hi Charles and Uni=
I forgot to add this to my previous post=
The 1974-75 Lady Kenmore "Keyboard" set with the "Penta Swirl" agitator is the 1st "true" Large #18 Capacity Kenmore ever produced.
The 1966-73 Lady Kenmore "Keyboard" sets are Standard #14 Capacity models.
Rob
ps= My grandmother had a 1966 Lady Kenmore "Keyboard" washer!
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Post# 2330-7/3/2001-02:10 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlmore brochure--washer (Pfaff ironer)
MESSAGE: I only use the Bosch, the thermostats of the AEG are not working well. A shame since the AEG is a much prettier machine than the Bosch. Besides that the AEG has three speeds and the Bosch only one. I use the Bosch more often than my iron. Louis
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Post# 2331-7/3/2001-05:47 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag A102 gets new agitator
MESSAGE: Peter, yes, I have one of those in the tall size because that was the first Power Fin and its construction mimicked the Bakelite LFA in that they both had the double skirt with the internal pump fins, but I don't believe there was ever a short one like that because of the change over Scott and I were talking about. I have one of the Bakelite versions of the LFA also. Maytag soon found that they did not need the internal pump in the new Power Fin. There was a coin laundry in Arlington, VA, I visited once back in 76 or 77 that originally had Frigidaire machines in it. It was obvious from the instructions posted on the boards and the 18 minute cycle it talked about. The washers had been changed to large cap Maytags with the tall black polypropelene agitators with a small collar around the opening in the top. I thought it was pretty neat that the old Frigidaire instructions that said to add the detergent to the center of the agitator could still be followed with the Maytags. Tom
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Post# 2332-7/3/2001-06:11 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag A102 gets new agitator
MESSAGE: Greg, funny you should mention this. Years ago, John was working wtih someone who had a Maytag coin laundry and they could not figure out why there was so much dried detergent in the base of the cabinet; too much and in too perfect a form for dried oversudsing deposits. After watching a few people load (read pack) clothes and then liberally pour detergent on the top of the load, start it and walk away, they checked the machines at various points in the cycle. They discovered that most of the detergent in such cases never got wet and flew off the top of the load when the washer went into spin. The spray rinse eventually wet down the top of the load that never got near the wash water and that was laundering. At least in Maytags with the wide barrel agitator, users were told to put detergent in the agitator. I never understood why Maytag said to add the detergent on top of the clothes when it would seem to at least have a better chance to dissolve if added first, although with such wonderful agitation, it might have trapped detergent granules all through the load, I dunno. Has anyone ever used a Hotpoint solid tub coin op machine? One time a friend layered clothes and detergent in one like when assembling a lasagna and at the end of the cycle undissolved detergent was still in the clothes. Tom
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Post# 2333-7/3/2001-06:33 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frigidaire Historical Collection
MESSAGE: Tom, I wonder what they consider to be "odd ball magazines?" Great information. Thanks, Tom for the link. This is kinda neat having more than one Tom in the club. Messages to Tom from Tom bring to mind the reported greetings in the morning calls from Elizabeth the Queen Mother to QEII; something along the lines of, "Your Majesty, Her Majesty. Good morning."
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Post# 2334-7/3/2001-07:38 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag A102 gets new agitator (1st Power Fins)
MESSAGE: There is a small furniture and appliance store down in South Omaha that has a few vintage machines on display, one of which is a very early 06 model. I'm sure it's a standard tub, and I think it has the small version of the "hump" agitator. I'll have to visit them again when I'm hitting the thrift store next door. Last week, I snatched a Vari-Flex "agi-horror" from a LK in the junk pile.
I didn't know Maytag made large cap. coin-ops, have only seen the standard capacity version before.
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Post# 2335-7/3/2001-08:13 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag A102 gets new agitator
MESSAGE: A friend up the street had a std. capacity Maytag and asked me why he had white streaks all over the load at the end of the cycle. I tried to explain the cause, but to no avail. He has since replaced this with a std. capacity Hotpoint - plastic tub and is thrilled with the larger tub - ha!
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Post# 2336-7/3/2001-08:53 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag A102 gets new agitator (1st Power Fins)
MESSAGE: Greg, maybe you could take a picture and discuss with Scott what he remembers of his neighbor's standard cap Maytag with the black fixed fin agitator. I can see there are gaps in Maytag agitators I have heard about. I will pick John's brain about this. I do remember a friend who was a property manager telling me that Maytag had both sizes of tubs in commercial machines and the 16 gal. vs. 19 gal. fill and all kinds of other considerations for size selection for various applications. Tom
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Post# 2337-7/3/2001-10:56 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (What town is this??)
MESSAGE: It's not along I-35 Greg, its between Rochester and La Cross, WI.
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Post# 2338-7/3/2001-11:07 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag A102 gets new agitator (Large Capacity Coin-op Maytags)
MESSAGE: I remember about 1972 when we were vacationing along the New Jersey shore we rented a cottage for a week. My favorite part of the whole vacation was when we went to a laundromat. I remember it was this huge place with standard capacity Maytags on one side and large capacity Maytags on the other. I had never seen large capacity coin op Maytags ever before (or ever again for that matter), but I remember thinking it was strange that the tub was gray and not white, as I only saw large capacity Maytag tubs in white up to that point. Here in Minneapolis I see lots of large capacity Maytag tubs in gray, but on the east coast at that time they we're all white. For some reason during the 70's Maytag marketed the white large-capacity tubs on the east coast but not in the mid-west.
On a side note, another thing I remember about that particular laundromat was there was a section in the back where they had six or eight washers marked out of order, which obviously had not been replaced with the new Maytag’s as of yet. They we’re all WCOZ’s, Frigidaire’s first Unimatic Coin-op washer, from 1959. I remember they look very used, a few had some water in the tubs. I had so wished they we’re still in use.
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Post# 2339-7/3/2001-11:41 ||| RobGwisdala (Troy Ohio 45373)
SUBJECT:
POTD
MESSAGE: Hi Uni.
I have noticed that the POTD is reruns. Why do you post the same pictures a second time?
Rob
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Post# 2340-7/3/2001-12:56 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag A102 gets new agitator (Large Capacity Coin-op Maytags)
MESSAGE: Robert, we still see the large capacity bol Fabric-Matic Maytags with gray tubs from time to time in the appliance gathering sites, but the only black Power Fins are the little ones in the 106 type machines, also with gray tubs. TT
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Post# 2341-7/3/2001-13:15 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: POTD
MESSAGE: See post #443 for a complete explanation of how the picture of the day works.
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Post# 2342-7/3/2001-13:31 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
ChesterMike FUN!!
MESSAGE: Mike
Thank you for all the brochures on the washers. I have been enjoying the reading material at night on the front porch!!
As soon as I get my computer back in two weeks I will scan some pix for the club.
I hope you can make the Convention now that would be very cool! Keep us posted.
I will start gathering brochures for you on american machines. Over here the sales brochures are very tiny not like the books you sent but they are interesting.
MY posts will be spotty folks till I get my computer back have a good 4th eveyone!!
jon
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Post# 2343-7/3/2001-15:35 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT:
RE: POTD
MESSAGE: This subject has been addressed before. I would imagine that if you were to read all of the postings, even the ones that do not interest you, you might learn something preventing you from asking the same question that someone else already asked. But that would also mean that you would have to use your brain to retain this information, which I know for some people is a great undertaking.
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Post# 2344-7/3/2001-16:50 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (1974-75 Lady Kenmore Keyboard Set)
MESSAGE: Rob:
You are quoting that the 1974-75 Lady Kenmore Washer is the "first" 18 lb. large capacity washer EVER produced.
And my answer is, are you sure about that?? I guess what you mean is that the 1974-75 Lady Kenmore Washer was the first EVER large capacity Lady Kenmore ever produced. If you are saying that, then I can go along with that. But I don't think that it was the first EVER large capacity washer that Sears has ever produced. Because if I recalled correctly, Sears was selling an 18 pounder back in the late 1960's (and it wasn't a Lady Kenmore either). In fact, I am willing to bet that in your 1974 Sears Catalog, that they have an 18 pounder in that one too (only this time, this one has three controls in the middle of the console (the water level control on the left, the cycle timer in the middle, and the water temperature control on the right.......... with the "Sears Kenmore" emblem on the left of the water level switch). I know they introduced this machine back in either 1972 or 1973. I know they had an 18 pounder back then too, because my aunt had one).
Now in reference to the 1966 Lady Kenmore "Keyboard" Washer. I know which one you are talking about then. My great aunt (on my father's side) had that SAME EXACT machine. In fact, she had the whole set I believe. Because she had the matching dryer too. To me, THAT washer (the 1966 Lady Kenmore "Keyboard" Washer) is considered a collector's item.
--Charles--
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Post# 2345-7/4/2001-02:43 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
Great Celebrations
MESSAGE: All the best for the 4th July, hope you enjoy your celebrations whatever you are doing!!!!
Think of me while I slave over my paintpots (kitchen nearly finished!!!)
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 2346-7/4/2001-05:11 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
Happy Fourth of July
MESSAGE: Hope everyone has a GREAT Independence Day.
Stay safe!
Steve 1-18
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Post# 2347-7/4/2001-05:15 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
POTD
MESSAGE: Hi Uni.
I have noticed that the POTD is reruns. Why do you post the same pictures a second time?
Steve 1-18 [TDMMDI]
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Post# 2348-7/4/2001-13:41 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Convention Agenda
MESSAGE: Here is a new copy of the latest agenda:
Everyone is welcome to join the the "crowd" with any or all of the following activities or go off and do other things in the city on your own if you prefer.
Friday Afternoon, Aug 17:
Arrive in Minneapolis during the day, check into hotel.
Friday Evening:
6:00pm – 10:00pm Meet at Uni's for first of two “wash-in’s”. We'll order pizza to enjoy while we’re watching the washers run.
Saturday Aug 18
8:30am – Gather at Uni's for rolls and coffee.
9:30am sharp – We leave for the estate sales.
3-4:00 – Disperse for a few hours’ rest before the evenings’ activities.
7:00pm – Meet at Uni's to embark for dinner at Murray’s Restaurant in downtown Minneapolis (approximately $30 per person)
9:00pm – 1:00am After dinner, back to Uni's for a late night wash-in.
Sunday Aug 19
10:00am – Check out of hotel if leaving on Sunday;
11:00am – Meet at the 'Rain Forest Café' at Mall of America, followed by a visit to terrorize the Sales People in the Appliance section at Sears at the mall. The mall is located relatively close the airport for those having afternoon flights out.
4:00-? – Open house at Scott’s apartment in south Minneapolis. Anyone staying until Monday or beyond is welcome to come visit, see my 60 Frigidaire and enjoy my vacuum and small appliance collections. It would be helpful to know an approximate number of people I might expect to visit during the course of the evening.
Monday Aug 20
11am - For those remaining on Monday, we can take a tour of Downtown Minneapolis and the Skyway system.
Weather:
For those wondering in August in the Twin Cities the average daily high temp is 84 (29C) and the average low is 63 (17C).
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Post# 2349-7/4/2001-13:42 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Great Celebrations (slaving)
MESSAGE: Thanks Mike, you're slaving over paintpots today, I'm slaving over floor tiles "Calgonite take me away".
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Post# 2350-7/4/2001-13:42 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: POTD
MESSAGE: I'm holding back Steve.
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Post# 2351-7/4/2001-22:35 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
Frigidaire Dryer
MESSAGE: Worked on the 1970 Frigidaire dryer today. I need a part, the cover for the drum light. PeterH, could you remove the one on your dryer and post a picture of it.
Thanks,
Steve 1-18
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/svb14_1953/lst?&.dir=/1970+Frigidaires&.src=ph&.view=t&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/svb14_1953/lst%3f.dir=/1970%2bFrigidaires%26.src=ph
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Post# 2352-7/5/2001-05:31 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (Lone Kenmore large cap washer and dryer)
MESSAGE: Charles is correct on this. On a separate page in the catalogs along with a lot of other washer related stuff there was a large cap washer and dryer. John has the dryer. It is very deep, so deep that the control panel was set forward about 4 inches from the back so that it would line up with the washer control panel if the machines lined up across the front. The dryer had a big side swing door, not as square as the giant GEs, but similar. Tom
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Post# 2353-7/5/2001-05:38 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention Agenda (RSVP to Royal Invitation)
MESSAGE: Scott, John and I would love to drop by sometime during your reception. Tom
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Post# 2354-7/5/2001-05:43 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Great Celebrations (Calgonite)
MESSAGE: Robert, I hope that the fumes have not made you so woozy that you would think of bathing in Calgonite instead of Calgon Bath Beads. Although, I can understand Calgonite and the dishwasher freeing you so that you can spend time soaking your body instead of soaking your dishes. Tom
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Post# 2355-7/5/2001-05:53 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
Tuesday night's find
MESSAGE: Tuesday night, which seemed like a Saturday night, we went appliance shopping behind the stores. Among rather run of the mill finds, we got a 1958 Frigidaire Imperial cycla-matic refrigerator in Charcoal. It is a single door box with a separate sealed freezer at the top and separate evaporator for the fresh food section. You still have to defrost the freezer, but it would hold a zero degree temperature. The outside has some small scratches, as would be expected after 43 years, but the inside is almost perfect and very clean. It was still cold inside so it works. Tom
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Post# 2356-7/5/2001-07:33 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Tuesday night's find
MESSAGE: Tom, my grandmother had the exact same fridge, but in white. I remember having to defrost that freezer. We got it and kept it from about 1964 (when she went into an apartment) until 1969 when we got our Gibson SxS. The Frigidaire supplanted the 1948 Kelvinator, which is still stored in my parents garage.
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Post# 2357-7/5/2001-07:58 ||| Jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
Great Site
MESSAGE: Uni, like I said on Thathomesite, your site rocks! I do own a "classic" appliance myself. A 70s GE dryer, almond color. It's very used and unrestored but it works like a charm. My washer is a newer 80s Whirlpool direct drive. It works fine but it's not as cool as a really good restored belt drive washer.
Keep up the good work.
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Post# 2358-7/5/2001-08:59 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frigidaire Dryer
MESSAGE: Great Picts Steve, I'm assuming that lens cover is NLA?
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Post# 2359-7/5/2001-09:01 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Tuesday night's find
MESSAGE: Congrats Tom, I know Greg is looking for the bottom freezer Imperial Cold Pantry version of the '58 in Charcole.
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Post# 2360-7/5/2001-09:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Great Site
MESSAGE: Hi Jason, thanks and welcome to Applianceville. Please join us in fab-o appliance conversations!
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Post# 2361-7/5/2001-09:03 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Tuesday night's find (AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!)
MESSAGE: This is the "match" to my RCI-58 in Charcoal! I was telling Robert the other night on the phone that I've fallen in love with this color and am planning on putting the Chambers gas range up for sale and keeping the RCI-58 (until Scott has a house.) I know where the refrigerator is that was removed with the range, the set was split when it didn't sell and I need to go to the fire station here in town and convince them to sell it to me or allow me to replace it with another so I can have the matching set.
What a rare color and neat find!!
Screaming and clawing my face......Greg :-)
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Post# 2362-7/5/2001-09:22 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Tuesday night's find (AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!)
MESSAGE: Greg, STOP THE CLAWING IMMEDIATELY! You will need all your charms for working on the firemen. (Excuse me a moment, I need to click open my fan. Talk about an overheating situation; we need some ventilation over here! NOW). Well, anyway I hope you can persuade them to part with it, althought they probably wanted it because it matches those big black rubber outfits they wear. Maybe they will get tired of defrosting it and want something that is frost free. Summertime might be a good time to approach them about this.
Thank you for coming to your senses and keeping the electric range. Your health and Skyler's will be better for the decision. Later when he is able to cook, he will enjoy having his own Skyler-sized oven next to his dad's. How's Jack doing? Tom
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Post# 2363-7/5/2001-10:34 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Tuesday night's find (AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!)
MESSAGE: Where there's smoke, there's Firemen!! I really must get up there this week and see what they say - I'll take the boy in and give them "this was my grandmother's fridge, I have the stove, may I please buy the matching refrigerator?????" look sad and forelorn Skyler......
Jack is doing great - we finally got the fencing finished in the back yard (serious labor shortage in the midwest, contracted work takes forever) and he's only found two ways out on his own, but Skyler loves the gates and he can just walk out anytime Skyler is playing with them. We'll work on this as we go along.... I took Jack to the vet to have him nuetered two weeks ago and the vet said he was too young. I reminded him that he was born in January and was old enough now to fix. Dr. checked the chart and said that we have a "runt's runt" sized Beagle and he'd be surprised if he made it to 20lbs. at adulthood. I wanted a small dog and am very pleased to hear this!
I'm off work the rest of the week as I have no sitter/nanny, so we are heading now to Lincoln to check out the appliance biz there - got a couple of leads from cold calling so hope to bring home some fun stuff.
Hope your holiday was great -
Greg
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Post# 2364-7/5/2001-12:04 ||| JasonL (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Great Site (tried to get a Maytag)
MESSAGE: When I bought my trailer, the previous owner had a Maytag washer from the 70s. I begged, pleaded, and bribed him but he wouldn't give it up :-( so now I'm washing with Whirlpool. It agitates rather violently if you ask me. The older washers were more gentle with clothes.
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Post# 2365-7/5/2001-12:18 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (Lone Kenmore large cap washer and dryer)
MESSAGE: I remember seeing the large cap machines for many successive years in the catalog, from the late 60s into the 70s. One of my mother's friends *may* have had one, but I'm not entirely sure if it was that or a similar-appearing standard machine. If memory serves, it looked very much like the machine they offered in the 60s with the ovals that go all across the control panel, with the water level and temp controls in their own ovals flanking the timer dial.
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Post# 2366-7/5/2001-12:19 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention Agenda (RSVP to Royal Invitation)
MESSAGE: Great Tom! Glad you two will be able to come.
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Post# 2367-7/5/2001-13:03 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: ChesterMike FUN!! (Bedtime Reading)
MESSAGE: Jon
Glad you got the brochures okay, I`ll bring the others over when we all meet at the convention. (Yes it`s confirmed)
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 2368-7/5/2001-13:07 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention Agenda (From One Royal to Another....... )
MESSAGE: Hi Guys
Its official, could not resist any longer, booked the room and flight so "Washarama Here We Come"
Scott, Room for one more, hope so, we`ve got a lot of catching up to do with the vacs as well!!!
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 2369-7/5/2001-13:08 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Great Site (Whirlpool Roughness)
MESSAGE: Greg and I were just talking about how rough some of the Whirlpool/Kenmore agitators were. I forgot how rough the Surgilator agitator is on clothes until I saw it in operation again in my '52 Whirlpool. I think at the convention we'll have to wash four pair of jeans in the Surgilator-Agitator Whirlpool and then wash another 4 pair in a 3-Ring Agitator Frigidaire for comparison, maybe the ABC-O-Matic too.
Turnover will be greater in the Frigidaire and the handling will be gentler, although the Whirlpool might get the highest score on cleaning ability, but at a cost of wear.
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Post# 2370-7/5/2001-13:10 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention Agenda (YAY YAY YAY)
MESSAGE: Mike this is so wonderful that you're coming, this is soooo exciting. Have you even seen any vintage American washing machines before?
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Post# 2371-7/5/2001-13:14 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention Agenda (RSVP to Royal Invitation)
MESSAGE: Your Majesty,
We hope you will recieve us in audience too.
QLOTOC
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Post# 2372-7/5/2001-13:22 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention Agenda (European delegation)
MESSAGE: Hi Mike, very nice you come too, that doubles the European delegation. Louis
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Post# 2373-7/5/2001-13:36 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention Agenda (??YAY??)
MESSAGE: Does that mean you're coming for sure Louis? Can we officially sound the YAY YAY YAY signal for you too?
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Post# 2374-7/5/2001-13:37 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (Lone Kenmore large cap washer and dryer)
MESSAGE: Scott, the memory is vague, but I stink I remember something like that. Tom
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Post# 2375-7/5/2001-13:41 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention Agenda (??YAY??)
MESSAGE: This will be our first International convention, can you believe it??? We could have a Mr. and Miss World Laundry title! Tom
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Post# 2376-7/5/2001-15:10 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention Agenda (From One Royal to Another....... )
MESSAGE: Great! I'm delighted to hear you can come. Scott
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Post# 2377-7/5/2001-15:13 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention Agenda (RSVP to Royal Invitation)
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, it will be our absolute delight so to do. We are very pleased that, not only will you be able to move to your new castle, but will also be able to make a state visit as well! We are rather behind on our correspondence and phone calls at the moment, but we shall be in contact soon.
QEOM
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Post# 2378-7/5/2001-16:03 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention Agenda (YAY YAY YAY)
MESSAGE: Yes, I'm coming too. I'm going to the travel agency tomorrow to book the trip. I'm flying in on the 16th and fly back on the 26th from Atlanta.
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Post# 2379-7/5/2001-16:05 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention Agenda (RSVP to Royal Invitation)
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, we are behind in correspondence too. We will mail soon since there are some arrangements to decide on.
QLOTOC
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Post# 2380-7/5/2001-17:56 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention Agenda (From One Royal to Another....... )
MESSAGE: Hey Scott, don't forget, I'm planning on being there through Sun. evening--so I'll be at your house too that day. And just think, since we'll be terrorizing the Sears at Mall of America, maybe the new Whirlmore will be there.
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Post# 2381-7/5/2001-18:29 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention Agenda (From One Royal to Another....... )
MESSAGE: Good! Yes the new machine may well be there and will of course be fun to see. I've never been to this infamous "mall" before, but I believe that is the newest Sears in the area, and appears to be a large one, so hopefully their appliance area is spacious and well stocked.
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Post# 2382-7/5/2001-18:58 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Great Site (Whirlpool roughness)
MESSAGE: I don't even use the fast agitate cycle unless it's white clothes or heavily stained. I usually go Normal cycle light wash. It goes into it's "gentle" mode and the clothes still come out clean. The rinse and the high are high speed though. The direct drive Whirlpools have a very fast agitate than the older belt drive. Somebody told me that they did that so the motor would burn up sooner so you'd have to buy a new washer. I don't know about that theory.
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Post# 2383-7/5/2001-20:53 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Great Site (Whirlpool Roughness - Where's my Soapbox.......)
MESSAGE: I have the Super Surgilator, KM Super Roto-Swirl and KM Vari-Flex. I have used all of these in the WP washer that I moved down to the new room a couple of weeks ago. I agree that the cleaning is very good, but at a rather steep price. After washing with my 3-Ring (the best of all Frigidaire pulsators, thank you again Robert!!) in the '68 Rollermatic, the drag and wear factor of the WP & KM agitators is much higher (a little better with the roto-swirl, but only a little.) I have tried a slower speed, but the turnover suffers too much. Speaking of slower speed, we come to the next increment of the timer, neutral drain and "spin." I have softened in my view of neutral draining somewhat, I get much clearer rinsing than I'd expected, but that spin speed leaves a lot to be desired (615 more rpm's would be perfect!) While high on the drama scale, and fairly effective, the brush-type lint filter is a bugger to clean and maintain. It takes running it under water to clean it completely which only adds to the water usage total of an already thirsty washer. I'm sure the self-cleaning filter would be much more to my liking. It will be fun to compare all the machines at the convention - does anyone have a Reflect-o-meter?
Disclaimer:
I know there are several WP/KM fans out there so please don't be offended by my critical slant, I love all washers and none of them are completely perfect in all areas. The WP belt-drive is a very solid, well built and very flexible machine that has a proven reliablity record through the years, but it's not my top pick among brands. Personal preference, that's all.
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Post# 2384-7/5/2001-23:09 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
Mother's washing machine
MESSAGE: I was looking at the user profiles and I notice alot of our "dream machines" are machines that had some sort of sentimental value ie: My mom's Kenmore, my granny's Frigidaire, etc. In fact, Appliguy and I share the same childhood washer: Kenmore model 800. I do remember the soap dispenser, the sloshing sound on permanent press cycle. I can close my eyes and still see (and hear) it running. The spin cycle made that unique sound ("grind-click") but unfortunately that is the sound of a ailing transmission (I think) and it eventually led to the poor old washer's demise. The next washer we got was a 1981 Whirlpool. I remember being excited about getting a new washer but still saddened over losing the model 800. The dryer hung on for over 32 years until the thermostat got stuck (the fire wouldn't go off). So last year I felt another loss as they replaced the dryer with a new Frigidaire. I tell you, it just isn't the same. It doesn't sound the same. The Frigidaire sounds "cheap" compared to the bold sounding Kenmore. Even the cat doesn't like it. She loved to sleep on and in the old Kenmore but won't even look at the new Frigidaire. Smart cat LOL.
Well, that's just some of my early appliance memories.
Yes, people thought I was nuts because I like washing machines. Why not? They're COOL. They wash your clothes and they're fun to watch and play with.
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Post# 2385-7/5/2001-23:13 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Great Site (I just remembered)
MESSAGE: My mom's first washer was a Kenmore 800 with a roto-swirl (I think that's what it was) and it used to tear up my diapers. How strange I can still remember that.
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Post# 2386-7/5/2001-00:37 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Great Site (Whirlpool Roughness - Where's my Soapbox.......)
MESSAGE: I have used my belt driven RCA Whirlpool for many years with "Surgilator" agitator and magic mix brush flitler. I never had a problem with roughness on anything. If you wash jeans just turn them inside out, they will be fine, and the color will last longer. Some laods don't reguire a full 14 mins. wash cycle, I never have a problem with linting in this machine either. The brush filter catches the smallest lint. I use a wide tooth comb to clean the brush filter, it's very simple. I never have to use a pretreater or anything, just one cup of powdered tide with bleach and everthing is clean, well rinsed, lint free, and never tied up in knots like most roll-over washers can do.
Brooklyn Robert
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Post# 2387-7/6/2001-04:16 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention Agenda (Vintage, Vintage, Vintage)
MESSAGE: Robert
Not a one, the only vintage machine I`ve seen was on telly with Granny Clampitt & the Beverley Hillbillys & spent just as much time wondering what Ms. Hathaways machine would be like!!!
Looking forward to seeing old and new alike....
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 2388-7/6/2001-04:19 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention Agenda (Fly-In)
MESSAGE: Louis
Looking forward to meeting yourself and all, and finding out all about those ZUG automatics????
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 2389-7/6/2001-05:34 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Great Site (Whirlpool roughness)
MESSAGE: Sorry to burst the conspiracy theory, but it has to do with making the new transmission smaller, simpler and cheaper to build. The newly designed trannies can leave out a reduction gear by using a fast short stroke instead of the longer slower stroke. If you look at the size of the short fast stroke Maytag Orbital tranny compared to the old helical drive tranny, you will see that the size is diminished, much like WP's new tranny compared to the one that was used for decades before it. Motors are lasting just fine in both the new Maytags and WPs. Tom
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Post# 2390-7/6/2001-05:40 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention Agenda (Vintage, Vintage, Vintage)
MESSAGE: Miss Hathaway and her "roommate" wink wink, nudge nudge probably took their laundry to a laundromat. Somehow I doubt that tightfisted Mr. Drysdale paid her enough to live where she could have a washer. TT
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Post# 2391-7/6/2001-07:21 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Great Site (Whirlpool roughness)
MESSAGE: Jason, I've got the 1st 1986 DD LK. It doesn't have stepped-down agitation. I only use normal cycle for towels, sheets, and full loads of undies & dish towels. If I have to do loads below the medium water level, they get done on gentle with a reset to total 16 minutes (if it's a load that would have been done normally no Normal). The rest--golf shirts, t-shirts, jersey stuff, sweats, pp shirts, dockers, dress sox, and everything else, gets done on kint/delicate too. I know I use K/D so much that some day that part of the timer is going to be worn out--contacts degrated. That's when I'll get my front loader.
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Post# 2392-7/6/2001-07:24 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Mother's washing machine
MESSAGE: Jason, waht year was your Model 800. Our's as a 1970 version--the very first washer that I got to pick out, so it was kinda "mine".
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Post# 2393-7/6/2001-07:25 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Great Site (I just remembered)
MESSAGE: I doubt it was the washer tearing the diapers. I have this sneaky suspicion you were just quite a toot, as we say in the South LOL
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Post# 2394-7/6/2001-08:03 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Great Site (Whirlpool roughness)
MESSAGE: I've always wondered why there isn't one of these electronic control models that you could literally "build" your own cycle out of different selections for speed, time, etc. The ultimate in flexibility with "blocks" the user puts together to form thier own perfect cycle. That would probably take a lot of the fun out of dial pushing for us though!
Hope all is well Bob!
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Post# 2395-7/6/2001-08:51 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Great Site (Whirlpool Roughness - Where's my Soapbox.......)
MESSAGE: I have thought that the Roto Swirls and the Surgilators were kinda gentle, because the curves and the slopes kept the load moving such that the push-pull wasn't so great on the clothes. The KM/WP Straight Vanes were rough because they were so big!
-ph
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Post# 2396-7/6/2001-08:52 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Great Site (I just remembered)
MESSAGE: Maybe it wasn't so much what your diapers were going into that tore them up as much as what was going into the diapers themselves. TT
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Post# 2397-7/6/2001-08:54 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
Perma Press care
MESSAGE: Anyone have opinions on PP cooldowns and care in their machines? I used the 1-18 PP cycle for the first time yesterday, and I put it right up there with the KM for PP care. What a neat sequence! I never liked the Maytag cooldown because of the lack of agitation.
-ph
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Post# 2398-7/6/2001-09:25 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention Agenda (Dry-Clean Only)
MESSAGE: Tom
Was there ever an episode where she got to swim in "Grannys Ceeeement Pond"????
I think Miss. Hathaway might has "bypassed" the laundromat and gone "straight" to dry-clean!!!
Looking forward to meeting at the Wash-in.
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 2399-7/6/2001-10:00 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Great Site (Whirlpool Roughness - Where's my Soapbox.......)
MESSAGE: I will tell this story again. In the early 60s, when Frigidaire was pitching "Summersault washing action" with the little teddy bear that kept turning over, there was a TV commercial to show how gentle the action was compared with an agitator. They took a bar of Ivory soap and put it in a half-filled KM/WP washer with the old style straight vane agitator. The bar of soap came out kinda nicked up. They put another bar in the full tub of the Frigidaire with the 3 Ring Agitator and it was hardly touched. The falacy in this demo was that the bar of soap was a solid object. Clothing, unless packed tightly into a washer is not. And, of course the floating Ivory was right at the level of the agitator vanes in a partially filled WP machine. Fabrics flex with the water currents. If the machine is not overloaded, there is usually room for fabrics to flex in the water as the agitator moves back and forth. There has to be some contact, but then again in a tumbler washer the vanes have to touch the clothes to pick them up for the drop. Anyone who complains about the treatment of clothes in a new fast stroke washer should have had our experiences of seeing old Maytags with the white porcelain worn off the tub in a band opposite the Bakelite agitator vanes from the way clothes were dragged back and forth against the porcelain. When John worked for a Maytag Service dealer, the two owners went through 3 sets of shirts each, washed faithfully in their Maytags while John was able to continue to use his original set for the same amount of time laundering them in his Kenmore combo. There are many variables. Sometimes clothing damage is caused by too much bleach or detergent burn when undissolved detergent sits on damp clothes like during the wash fill when detergent is sprinkled on top of clothes. Sometimes fabrics weaken from perspiration, UGH, like this guy who works here, a sad case if there ever was one. An heir to a fortune. An opera expert. Does not bathe regularly, wears shirts for days running, lots of stains from sweat traveling from underarm to waist and spreading out laterally. We will not go into the smell except to say that in a crowded hall, NOBODY walks close to him. Those are the kinds of things that suddenly fall apart in the laundry, the fibers just eaten away, similar to clothes that are allowed to pile up dirty for weeks at a time. The chemicals in the deodorants/antiperspirants, sweat, oil & dirt damage the fabrics as they oxidize. It's not just the agitation. Tom
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Post# 2400-7/6/2001-10:08 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Perma Press care
MESSAGE: I hope that this water is being drained out into your yard instead of going down the sewer. If you dry the clothes in a dryer, the after wash cool down is not necessary; in fact you can get nice permanent press results in a WO-65 if you use a dryer. Have fun watching the cycle, but please remember how much water it uses. Oh, and to keep Permanent Press clothes from getting smelly from sweat, even while your underarms do not smell, try adding plain old Borax to the wash water. No need for the expensive stuff called Borateam. Mothers used to use it to sweeten diapers and it works for grownups' clothes too. Tom
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Post# 2401-7/6/2001-10:14 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention Agenda (Dry-Clean Only)
MESSAGE: Mike, for someone from the UK, you sure know how to spell Ceeement to make it look like it sounds down South. I hardly ever heard the term concrete. About your question, I do not know that TV audiences were ready for Miss Jane in a bathing suit, although you have to admire her as a top rate actor when she got all fluttery around Jethro. Did you know Buddy Ebsen was also Gay? Tom
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Post# 2402-7/6/2001-10:34 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Great Site (Whirlpool Roughness - Where's my Soapbox.......)
MESSAGE: Geez Tom, if I washed every week I'd have all these iddy-biddy loads. I have to wait 2-3 weeks before I can wash.
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Post# 2403-7/6/2001-10:35 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention Agenda (Fly-In)
MESSAGE: Mike, likewise. I'm afraid that I can't tell you much more as is on the site. But then again you very well might not understand german. If you have any questions, just ask. Louis
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Post# 2404-7/6/2001-11:26 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Great Site (An Idea for fun at the convention)
MESSAGE: Hmmm, I think what we should do is set up some tests for the Big Saturday Night Wash-in at the convention. Everyone can bring jeans to wash and we'll use the 8lb load of four pair of jeans in each machine. We can test for the following:
- Color of water near the end of the wash cycle (we can save samples in little jars and compare).
- Amount of Linting (I can get those drain hose lint catchers and we can put a fresh one on each test machine before the test load is washed).
- Amount of Tangling, (we can verify at the end of each cycle when we're taking out the clothes).
-Rough handling during agitation (we can all watch and vote on who appears to visually be beating up the jeans the most).
- Rinsing Ability (I can get some of those large Home Depot buckets, after the cycle is complete we can fill a fresh bucket for each machine with clear tap water. We can place a few pair of the the jeans in each bucket. Slosh them around, then take another water sample and see how cloudy each one is).
- Water Extraction Ability, (we can weigh the jeans before and after each load to determine the spinning ability).
- Sand disposal (during a seperate test, we can dump some sand in each machine and see how they fair, I better get that new pink GE vacuum ready to remove all the sand thats left over!).
I'm sure you guys can think of other tests for our load of Jeans, maybe we can do the same with a load of towels too.
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Post# 2405-7/6/2001-11:28 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Perma Press care
MESSAGE: I agree Tom, I spin out most loads in the Unimatic before I dry them and no one has ever acused me of being wrinkled. Dryers make slow PP spin unecessary.
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Post# 2406-7/6/2001-11:28 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention Agenda (YAY YAY YAY)
MESSAGE: YAY YAY YAY, I couldn't be more thrilled that you're coming Louis.
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Post# 2407-7/6/2001-11:44 ||| RobGwisdala (Troy Ohio 45373)
SUBJECT:
RE: Great Site (1986 Lady Kenmore)
MESSAGE: Hi Bob.
What is the complete model number of your 1986 Lady Kenmore washer?
Is it 110.82692100 or 110.82692110?
Rob
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Post# 2408-7/6/2001-11:45 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Great Site (Whirlpool roughness)
MESSAGE: Tom, I admittedly know very little about running a business, nor am I passing judgment either way in the belt drive vs. direct drive debate, but would it be, in the long run, cost-effective for a company to redesign an entire machine to leave out one gear?
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Post# 2409-7/6/2001-11:53 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Perma Press care
MESSAGE: Tom, does Borax have an effect on the water or detergent boost like water softener, or is it strictly for the scent?
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Post# 2410-7/6/2001-11:55 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Great Site (1986 Lady Kenmore)
MESSAGE: I'm confused...wouldn't 110.82 in "Sears Speak" indicate a 1982 model washer?
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Post# 2411-7/6/2001-12:33 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT:
RE: Great Site (1986 Lady Kenmore)
MESSAGE: It's the first and third number that tells the year.
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Post# 2412-7/6/2001-13:13 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Great Site (Sort-of)
MESSAGE: With Kenmore model #'s its the first and third numbers in the 1970's-1990's. In the 50's and 60's it was the first and second #'s. Such as my '57 Lady Kenmore is 110.57?????.
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Post# 2413-7/6/2001-13:41 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Great Site (Stress test)
MESSAGE: I'm always interested in seeing just how big a load a machine can take before I feel that cleaning/rinsing is compromised. Maybe that's a test we don't want to force on some classics, but that's my favorite thing to check... I think the towel test Robert suggested will do nicely!
-ph
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Post# 2414-7/6/2001-13:46 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Great Site (1986 Lady Kenmore)
MESSAGE: Thank you, Your Majesty, I did not know/realize that.
QEOM
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Post# 2415-7/6/2001-13:47 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Great Site (Sort-of)
MESSAGE: Ok, interesting. I remember too the 1960 model being 110.60... had not realized they changed it at some point.
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Post# 2416-7/6/2001-15:37 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Have a good weekend everyone
MESSAGE: I'm off to the Northern Lake country this weekend, so they'll be no Estate Sale Pictures this weekend. Hope everyone has a nice one.
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Post# 2417-7/6/2001-17:42 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
Appnut: Kenmore 800
MESSAGE: I'm not really sure of the year but my mom said it's from when she got married so I'm guessing 1967. The control panel had the chrome trim around it. It had a top mounted flourescent light. The faceplate was like a pewter color with a small strip of chrome running across the middle. The control panel had a military green background to it. The knobs had were plastic and had the cycle markings on the knob itself (instead of painted on the faceplate). There was a variable water level, a 5 temperature knob and a toggle switch for 2nd rinse. That tub was white and there was no plastic clothes guard like on the 70s models. The agitator was a gold swirl. This is all I remember.
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Post# 2418-7/6/2001-19:11 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Great Site (Whirlpool roughness)
MESSAGE: Zactly!! Sometimes I really would like the ability to build a custom cycle, perhaps with agitation phases at varying speeds throughout the wash, and spin speeds or spin times other than what are hard-wired into the cycles, a longer agitated rinse, etc.
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Post# 2419-7/6/2001-20:18 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
Photo Album
MESSAGE: It's only two pics but it's a start.
First pic, my mom's old dryer. Kenmore 600. hard to see the controls. The cat loved this dryer. As you can see, she slept inside or on the dryer. She won't even look at the new Frigidaire. RIP 1967-2000 :'( . The washer is a 1990 Maytag
Second pic, my current laundry in my trailer. 1970s GE dryer next to an 80s WP D/D washer. Can anyone give me a year for these two if possible? Or how do I get the year from the model number?
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/kenmore800
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Post# 2420-7/6/2001-21:10 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT:
RE: Photo Album ((Cats in the dryer))
MESSAGE: a friend of mine lost her cat that way. she just thought it was a pair of sneakers thunking around in the dryer. poor Pootsie....
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Post# 2421-7/6/2001-21:56 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Photo Album (Album Empty??)
MESSAGE: I get an empty album with your link and no other albums for Kenmore800 - is the link correct?
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Post# 2422-7/6/2001-01:43 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Great Site (electronic models)
MESSAGE: Doesn't the Fisher and Paykel allow you to customise and save a cycle? Hoover even offers two presets for favourote cycles to be saved. You customise a regular cycle, make the washer longer, slower, faster spin or extra rinse.
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Post# 2423-7/6/2001-01:46 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Great Site (Correct me if I am wrong)
MESSAGE: But doesn't a smaller transmission leave more room for a larger wash tub? That would be a reason for smaller trannies.
Our DD Whirlpool has such a deep washbowl, my vertical challenged mother needs a stick to unload it.
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Post# 2424-7/7/2001-02:06 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Great Site (my two cents worth.)
MESSAGE: We have a DD whirlpool and had no problems with clothes wearing out prematurely. In fact it appears to be reasonably gentle. ( Id still rather a front loader ).
It is never overloaded however. We have a family of five normal people who produce a normal amount of washing. If we were to wait till it was really full to capcity it would take a whole week. Infact I really wonder about people who need such huge washing machines and then proceed to overload them. Like how much do they wash??? Do they change there clothes three times a day or something??? And what about separating from colours and whites etc. My guess is people are extreemly lazy. I mean spening ten minutes in the laundry to wash properly is NOT THAT HARD. WHat about our grandmother who spent all day with the wringer?? It wanst even that long ago many people used twin tubs. People expect everting to happen instanlty these days. That me finished with my soap box now.
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Post# 2425-7/7/2001-02:31 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
Some fun for us all.
MESSAGE: I found this on the UK WHirlpool site.
BTW there front loaders are cool too!
Enjoy!
LINK: http://www.whirlpool.co.uk/wp/UNITED_KINGDOM/comic/washit.exe
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Post# 2426-7/7/2001-03:09 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Great Site (electronic models)
MESSAGE: It does to some degree, but still is not as versatile as I'd like. For example, the Perm Press and Delicates cycles only allow the 300 RPM spin speed, and I'd like to be able to have a minute of 700 RPM at the end sometimes. Delicates and Perm Press also max-out at the Warm water temp, and I'd like to have the next temp up (Warm/Hot) on occasion (of course, I know that limition is specifically to prevent fabric damage). I'd also like to be able to start with a couple mins of regular agitation speed on Perm Press or Regular and then switch to delicate speed for the remainder.
There's always button-pushing, but it would be more convenient to have complete customization that way.
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Post# 2427-7/7/2001-03:42 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Great Site (electronic models)
MESSAGE: Fisher and Paykel call them "safeguards" so that stupid people dont ruin there laundry. Of corse if people read the instruction book and bothered to do things properly, there wouldnt be any need for safe guards.
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Post# 2428-7/7/2001-06:26 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention Agenda (booked)
MESSAGE: It wasn't possible yesterday to get things arranged, so I asked my travel agent (ofcourse supporting gay business here) to do some research on possible flights. My preference was for direct flights to Minnie and from Atlanta, but KLM/Northwest airlines were fully booked. Then there was the possibility to travel by Delta Airlines. It would have been possible to fly via Atlanta on the trip to Minnie and have a direct flight from Atlanta on the way home. Unfortunately only the most expensive seats were open. So now I'm flying US Airlines from Amsterdam to Philadelphia and from Philadelphia to Minneapolis. On the trip back I'm going back from Atlanta to Philadelphia and then back to Amsterdam. America, here I come, start saving brochures!!
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Post# 2429-7/7/2001-08:21 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Great Site (belt drive vs. direct drive debate)
MESSAGE: Scott,
The direct drive change was major for KM/WP/KA/Roper. The outer tubs became plastic, the suspension was new, the new 'body' was smaller and three sides (left, front and right) popped off. The most noticable (to me) before I even opened the lid, was how much lighter the machines were. My initial thought (back in the 80's) was cheaper to make (materials) and cheaper to ship (weight).
Steve
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Post# 2430-7/7/2001-08:27 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Great Site (Lint Test)
MESSAGE: I like to show folks how much lint accumulates in the dryer. I compare laundry washed in a standard toploader, frigidaire, and front loader.
Steve 1-18
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Post# 2431-7/7/2001-08:36 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention Agenda (YAY! )
MESSAGE: YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY!
Can you tell, yet, I'm soooooo excited! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY!
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Post# 2432-7/7/2001-08:53 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
The latest pictures
MESSAGE: What a Deal! I killed 3 birds with one stone. I had a Kenmore electric dryer and a Whirlpool electric dryer (both about 1982 models) on the carport. Got them for nothing and thought I'd use some parts off ogf them and junk them.
The guy I got the 1970 1-18 set from took them (off my hands) and in return, I brought him the 1966 piano key Kenmore washer to repair. He put in a whole new bleach softener dispenser (the one on the machine was cracked and one of the solenoids was melted), replaced the detergent dispenser water solenoid (small leak) AND replaced the tub seal (major surgery IMHO).
He had it ready to go the following day, so on my way home from work, I picked it up. I had to move a few things around the "studio" but got the pair together.
Last night, Patty came over and brought some laundry. Here is the link to the pictures.
Steve 1-18
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/svb14_1953/slideshow?&.dir=/A+lady+in+the+house&.src=ph&.view=t
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Post# 2433-7/7/2001-09:40 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Some fun for us all.
MESSAGE: Too fun!! Thanks - Greg
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Post# 2434-7/7/2001-09:44 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention Agenda (booked)
MESSAGE: Hooray!! I'm glad it all worked out for you! Bring laundry!
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Post# 2435-7/7/2001-09:50 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: The latest pictures
MESSAGE: Beautiful set! I always liked those detergent dispensers on the side - I'll bet the solenoid action of the bleach and softener dispensers is very cool sounding. Nice job on both of them Steve - thanks for the pictures!
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Post# 2436-7/7/2001-09:52 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: The latest pictures
MESSAGE: Thanks for pictures of this fabulous pair Steve. I had not realized the Variflex agitator went all the way back to 1966.
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Post# 2437-7/7/2001-13:19 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: The latest pictures
MESSAGE: Well well well, are you starting to have women over late at night? The set is really wonderful! Ready for my inspection, I presume?
Louis
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Post# 2438-7/7/2001-14:14 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: The latest pictures ((is the dryer a match?))
MESSAGE: Steve, I was going to ask you...is that Sears dryer an exact match for the washer even though the timer knob is slightly different, or is it a similar one from a different year?
Thanks for your insight about the direct drive washers. Scott
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Post# 2439-7/7/2001-14:25 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Dry estate sale day
MESSAGE: I checked out the estate sales today of which there were six (that's not very many for Minneapolis, but we've still kind of got a holiday thing going on and that usually affects the number). Nothing too exciting or plentiful at any of them, and I didn't buy a single thing but lunch! LOL Just the usual ugly duckling Sears machines, one 60s Maytag and a 70s avacado Kelvinator dryer. There was a Crosley washer which was a direct drive Sears on the inside, so apparently Whirlpool must have the rights to that name.
I missed a model 29 Hoover by about 10 seconds at one sale, but it had been bought by an older couple whom I assume were looking for a decent quality sweeper to use which you can't really find in stores these days, so I know it went to a good home.
Hope everyone is having a nice weekend, Scott
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Post# 2440-7/7/2001-14:31 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT:
RE: The latest pictures
MESSAGE: WOW Steve1-18:
GREAT SET!!!!! For a change, I finally get to see the 1966 Kenmore Model 900 and the 1966 Lady Kenmore Dryer sitting side by side together. It is also nice to see one the original Kenmore Keyboards in action once again. So tell me, does your Model 900 have a two speed motor or a three speed one?? As I recall correctly, my great aunt's 1966 Lady Kenmore (which has exactly the SAME control panel as your Model 900) had a three speed motor on it (I got have gotten to operate that machine a couple of times, and man, what a treat that was (push the buttons I needed to push, pull the dial out and turned it until it stopped and then pushed it in to start the washer....... then it was a treat to watch the detergent go into the tub from the detergent dispenser, and then watch water go into the tub from the dispenser also). Was that a cool machine or what).
And I am going along with Scott on this one. I didn't know that the "Vari-Flex" agitator was in existance back in 1966. The first time I heard of the "Vari-Flex" agitator, it was being used inside of the 1968 Lady Kenmore. My great aunt's 1966 Lady Kenmore had a "Roto-Flex" agitator inside of it.
And by the way, did you ever get the 1970 Frigidaire 1-18 Washer/Dryer set back?? What is the status of that set?? If you decided to give them away, why?? I thought that the 1970-79 Frigidaire 1-18 sets were very nice also.
--Charles--
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Post# 2441-7/7/2001-14:45 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT:
RE: The latest pictures ((is the dryer a match?))
MESSAGE: Scott:
I don't think that the dryer is an EXACT match for the washer. I have to think that there had to be a matching Model 900 dryer the year the washer was introduced. But because the control console are similar, I guess that the Lady Kenmores and Model 900's from that year were interchangable. That's why those machines looked like they match. The 1966 Lady Kenmore Washer and Dryer set did have different cycle timer knobs on them. The washer had a dial, and the dryer had a control knob.
Also, in my 1969 and 1971 Sears Catalogs, the #2 Kenmores of those year were also designed the same way. In 1969, the #2 Kenmores looked exactly like the 1966 Lady Kenmore pair, only they changed the color of the push buttons on both machines, removed the "Lady Kenmore" emblem off of the control panel and replaced it with a scripted "Sears Kenmore" emblem, and they took the three speed motor out of the washer and replaced it with a two speed one. In 1971, they just only changed the control panel of the dryer. They have done away with the three push buttons in the center of the console (which has appeared on the 1969, and I assume, the 1970 as well), by putting a couple of levers in the center of the console and replacing the control knob with a dial as the cycle timer (to match that of the washer).
But you do get it that for a long time, the 1966-70 Lady Kenmore and Model 900's were interchangable and matched each other. You could get a Lady Kenmore in one machine, and a Model 900 in the other machine, and they wouldn't severely destroy the chemistry of a matching pair. The machines matched one another.
--Charles--
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Post# 2442-7/7/2001-18:04 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Photo Album (sounds like a song)
MESSAGE: Well the cat's in the dryer in a Frigidaire
tumbling around with my underwear
Is he gonna make it I don't know when
I should take him out again, yeah
I know I'll have a dead cat then.
(just kidding to those who love cats)
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Post# 2443-7/7/2001-18:06 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Photo Album (Hmmm)
MESSAGE: I noticed that too. You have to log in to yahoo to see the pictures. I don't know why. Maybe Uni might know what to do. I pasted the link that shows up on the bottom of the screen that says "Bookmark this link".
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Post# 2444-7/7/2001-18:08 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Photo Album (I fixed it)
MESSAGE: The album was still set to private. Now it should work
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/kenmore800
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Post# 2445-7/7/2001-18:17 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: The latest pictures (My Aunt's Washer!!!!)
MESSAGE: Well, it isn't exactly hers but it's just like it. I was fascinated by the buttons. When my uncle took it apart, he gave me the control panel. I don't have it anymore :( .
Great memories! Thanks.
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Post# 2446-7/7/2001-19:18 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
"Whirlmore" Front Load Washer
MESSAGE: Someone posted this in the appliance forum, and I thought I would post it for anyone interested:
This article appeared in the July 7 edition of the St. Petersburg Times.
"Sears introduces the front-loading washer"
The Kenmore Elite line of appliances from Sears has ratcheted up the "less water/less energy" sweepstakes with the introduction of its new HE3t front loading washer. It claims the machine uses only 15.8 gallons of water per load (about the same as other front loaders), compared to a typical 42.2 gallons for a top loader.
Introducing the washer in energy-pinched California, Sears said it offers savings of 68 percent in water and 67 percent in energy. The washer comes in graphite gray, white or bisque with an optional 13-inch deep pedestal that contains a storage drawer, so you needn't bend over to load and unload. Or the washer and matching dryer can stack. Its panorama of settings and cycles includes an "ultra hand wash" very gentle cycle.
The washer will be available in stores at summer's end in what Sears says is its largest product launch ever in terms of spending on advertising and marketing. The company wants to capitalize on what it perceives as consumer willingness to change from the much-beloved top loader (eight out of ten consumers say they want a top-loading washer) in exchange for other benefits.
The washer is $1,299, the dryer is $799, and the pedestal is another $150. The washer will save consumers $100 a year in energy costs and $300 in the cost of supplies, Sears says.
The steep price for front loaders has long been a sticking point even with environmentally conscious buyers, who balk at paying three times what they'd pay for a top loader. Manufacturers of front loaders defend the price, saying the machines are harder to build than their top loading competitors.
Sears, which is America's top retailer of appliances, hopes to use the new model to defend itself from low cost competitors and to compete with Maytag's Neptune front loader, which as become one of its leading sellers.
And the name? "HE" stands for "high efficiency." The "3" represents strong cleaning power, large capacity and energy conservation. The "t" stands for thermal booster, which heats water above 150 degrees to remove stains. (end of article)
There is a picture of the washer & dryer and the caption reads: "The HE3t washer dryer pair looks sleek and stylish with curving fronts and extra-large windows. The appliances come in graphite, white or bisque. The new appliances come with an optional 13-inch deep drawer ($150 extra) that provides storage space and raises them to a more comfortable height."
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Post# 2447-7/7/2001-20:07 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: "Whirlmore" Front Load Washer
MESSAGE: When I went back to the forum, someone had posted the actual link to the story, which includes photos.
LINK: http://www.sptimes.com/News/070701/Homeandgarden/Sears_introduces_fron.shtml
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Post# 2448-7/7/2001-21:46 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: The latest pictures (Great Pics!!)
MESSAGE: You guys look like you had a nice washin. I like that Kenmore.
Best of luck with it.
Peter
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Post# 2449-7/7/2001-22:00 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: "Whirlmore" Front Load Washer (New FL )
MESSAGE: I can't wait to see this washer - I especially like the fact it have a real big window. Does it run off a standard 110 volt?
Does anyone know? If I was able to afford 1 I would get it in graphite.
Peter
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Post# 2450-7/8/2001-05:57 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
POTD Hotpoint DW
MESSAGE: Ah yes! What memories that picture brings back to me. The year was 1957. My Aunt Helen had that machine in her new house. It was the first dishwasher I'd seen. I was all of 4 years old. I remember being allowed to push the buttom to start it. I would sit on the floor in front and was amazed by the sounds, the lighted dial, and the steam that escaped from the top of the door.
This was the same Aunt that had the Frigidaire Tower Control Washer and the Frigidaire condenser dryer.
Another cousin bought a new home the following year and had a similar Hotpoint DW. It did not have the cycle knob on the bottom of the machine (just the start button). Their machine was pink as was the refrigerator (a Frigidaire with the frig on top and freezer on the bottom.
Steve 1-18
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/svb14_1953/vwp?.dir=/POTD&.src=ph&.dnm=Hotpoint+DW.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/svb14_1953/lst%3f%26.dir=/POTD%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 2451-7/8/2001-06:06 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: The latest pictures ((is the dryer a match?))
MESSAGE: Actually............. NO
The dryer is a lady kenmore. The washer is a kemore 900. I believe that the washer was one step down from the LK. My mom's was a 1971. Her's was one step below the LK for that year. The major difference, feature wise was th LK had a third slower speed. This machine only has a 2 speed motor.
Another feature added later was the enzyme soak (by 1971). This has only a prewash option.
Steve 1-18
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Post# 2452-7/8/2001-06:23 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: The latest pictures
MESSAGE: I spent most of Saturday (much to Rhinnie's dismay, I think) working on the 1970 1-18 pair. The washer had a leaky water pump. I pulled a pump from another 1-18 and replaced it. Still a small leak (dried up water seals, no doubt). Put it all back together and tried spinning out the water and guess what? The bearings are going, too. Aw SH__! Well, I decided to transplant another machine (a 1973) into the coppertone cabinet. Did that in about an hour's time. One last problem (I believe PeterH has the same thing wrong with one of his 1-18's too). When I pull the knob out the machine doesn't always run. It's the small white button on the back of the timer that senses when the knob is out or in. Either it is worn down or someone not knowing that there are 'stops' tried to force the knob and broke the plastic. I have other control tops I could put on the machine and I'm sure I could transplant the flouresent light, too, but this top is the only one I have with just two cycles on the timer: Wash and Soak.
Another unique thing about the dryer (I don't think I mentioned this in my previous posts) is the timer can only be turned clockwise. It is more similar to a washer timer. As you turn the knob you can hear the index clicks.
Steve 1-18
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Post# 2453-7/8/2001-11:22 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT:
RE: Photo Album (Jason you sick puppy )
MESSAGE: had me laughing .. MY aunt dryed her cat in her 1968 frigidaire
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Post# 2454-7/8/2001-11:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: The latest pictures
MESSAGE: I looked in the service manual for your WIS and looked at my 1-18 and didn't see the white button, but I didn't pull the console apart either. You could replace the timer with a new one, Midwest Timer Service should have a replacement for your machine. It would be shame to lose that control panel for that model since it is one of the very first 1-18's.
Did the leaking stop from the pump? I had to replace the pin trap on mine and ended up using some silicone to seal the trap to the outer tub as I couldn't get it to stop peeing water from the seal.
Here's a link to MTS, I need to call and order a new timer for the '54 SQ and the Westy L5 tomorrow so I can get those machines done.
LINK: http://www.m-t-s.com/
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Post# 2455-7/8/2001-12:41 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
Cat in the dryer
MESSAGE: A friend of mine has a cat named Spot that liked to sleep in the dryer. One day she tossed a load of laundry in (on top of the cat), started the dryer, and as she was leaving the laundry room thought, 'hmmm, I don't remember putting sneakers in the dryer!' Fortunately, she did an about face, opened the dryer and rescued the cat. The cat had no broken bones but still went to the vet for a check up and xrays.
I remember saying he may have gone in "Spot", but he came out "Fluffy."
Mitzy is more interested in the washers, than the dryers. She boldly walks around the edges of the toploaders watching and sniffing. She loves the rapidry in high speed spin. Scares the sh__ out of me, that one day she's going to get sucked in. I don't leave her in the laundry studio with running machines (and open lids). I also made a clear plexiglass door for the rapidry.
Steve 1-18
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Post# 2456-7/8/2001-14:46 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Photo Album (poor cat)
MESSAGE: Ironically, my mom's cat will NOT go near the new Frigidaire dryer. She loved the old Kenmore, especially when it was running. I guess she liked the sound and the warmth. My mom made sure the cat wasn't in there before loading it.
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Post# 2457-7/8/2001-14:50 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Cat in the dryer (be careful)
MESSAGE: My friend's neice almost got her arm taken off when she was a kid. She opened the lid of the washer as it stopped spinning and reached in there. The clothes grabbed her hand and twisted her arm. Didn't break it but it was hurt. That would be horrible for a cat to fall in especially a high speed spin.
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Post# 2458-7/8/2001-14:54 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
Fisher & Paykel
MESSAGE: Are these washers better than the front load Frigidaire? I saw one in person today and loved it. Doesn't need special detergent but uses less of everything.
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Post# 2459-7/8/2001-15:11 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
"Useless" Dishwasher
MESSAGE: This is cute, it was in one of my subscription emails today:
"Useless"
The family had finally gotten their first dishwasher.
The father liked to inspect every new thing that
came into the house, so he stayed in the kitchen
and watched the display count down all forty-four
minutes of the dish-washing cycle.
Suddenly he called out for his wife, shouting, "It's
useless, the dishwasher is useless!"
The wife was amazed that the newest appliance
could be broken after only one use, but he insisted
that because they had a water softener, the
dishwasher was useless.
She decided to look for herself, and there it was,
on the inside door, next to the detergent dispenser:
"USE LESS WITH SOFT WATER"
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Post# 2460-7/8/2001-22:37 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Fisher & Paykel (yes and no)
MESSAGE: They use less electricy yes, thanks to its direct drive DC current motor. But as it is a top loading design they do use a large amnount of water. Dadoes has one nad if you go to the links, you can download his videos of it in action.
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Post# 2461-7/9/2001-02:03 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
Speed Queen Dryer Gets Attention
MESSAGE: I removed the back and front panels from the 1954 Speed Queen dryer today and started cleaning and checking things over. A few things needed some attention; the first and foremost problem was the lint. This (gas) dryer was vented through an opening in the top of the control panel. There was a huge amount of lint everywhere inside the dryer and I spent nearly 1/2 an hour just cleaning it from every surface. Under all of the lint was a dryer that looks terrific. Some of the things that need work now are the door latches which are broken, a converter to 3 or 4 inch outside venting and new belts. Once all that is done, we can take it down and check the operation of the gas burner and hopefully dry a load of wash by the end of the week! Here are some pics of what I did today.
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/surgilator/lst?&.dir=/1954+Speed+Queen+DG14B+Dryer&.src=ph&.view=t&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/surgilator/lst%3f.dir=/1954%2bSpeed%2bQueen%2bDG14B%2bDryer%26.src=ph
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Post# 2462-7/9/2001-05:46 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Great Site (Whirlpool roughness)
MESSAGE: Scott, the entire machine was redesigned, not just the tranny and the entire redesign was to make a simpler machine using newer materials, not just to accommodate a new tranny. The old design was basically about 30 years old and used lots of metal. They made the outer tub out of porcelainized steel and in the 70s had lowered the thickness (guage) of the steel and put a thinner coat of porcelain on the steel and the newer tubs did not hold up as well. Getting rid of all the old platform and support saved weight and that not only meant saving money in manufacturing, but shipping as well. If you look at the prices of appliances from the early 50s, you will see that they have, in many cases, come down in dollar amounts and have really decreased in price as a percentage of family earnings. It has been made possible by finding cheaper ways, sometimes better, sometimes worse, to build them while being able to offer newer features that do not wind up costing an arm and a leg. When you look at all the machinery under a BD and compare it to the simplicity of the DD you will see, among other things, how the new pump is driven right off one end of the motor instead of by belt and no solenoids are needed to shift to drain because of the new reversing motor. Tom
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Post# 2463-7/9/2001-05:50 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Perma Press care
MESSAGE: Scott, the borax does not have a scent. It is touted as a cleaning booster. It is somewhat alkaline, but it is not in the same league as Calgon or other water conditioners. I do not notice any difference in cleaning with it in the wash water, but the after effect is there. Tom
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Post# 2464-7/9/2001-05:53 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Great Site (Stress test)
MESSAGE: Jeans are a greater challenge though because the fabric is stiffer and harder for the machine to roll over. Tom
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Post# 2465-7/9/2001-06:14 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: POTD Hotpoint DW
MESSAGE: I found one of these back in the 80s and was still able to buy the plastic dial and impeller for it from an independent parts store that is gone now. Tom
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Post# 2466-7/9/2001-06:16 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: The latest pictures
MESSAGE: Steve, the one way dryer timers were used by Frigidaire in some models in the late 60s also. Tom
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Post# 2467-7/9/2001-06:31 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Speed Queen Dryer Gets Attention
MESSAGE: Greg, neat dryer. Thanks for the pics. In the first one, had you already cleaned out most of the lint? I was expecting to see lint packed everywhere like some sort of flocked insulation like we sometimes have seen when we have gone into some old dryers, Norges, especially. Tom
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Post# 2468-7/9/2001-07:40 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Speed Queen Dryer Gets Attention
MESSAGE: I should have taken pics of the pile of lint that I'd picked out of the machine. It was worse toward the top where the exhaust duct was. I can imagine what some of the old Norges were like - a client had one that filled the room with lint too!
For it's age, and having sat idle for so many years, the amount of lint was lower and surprisingly clean. With new belts and some oil in the bearings, it will be like new again. I'm not quite sure about the door latches that are broken, will make a trip to the parts store and let my local "expert" do some brainstorming.
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Post# 2469-7/9/2001-07:41 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: The latest pictures
MESSAGE: My '68 "N" series had a one directional timer too.
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Post# 2470-7/9/2001-08:50 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Photo Album
MESSAGE: Thanks for the picts Jason, always nice to see what everyone describes.
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Post# 2471-7/9/2001-09:01 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Speed Queen Dryer Gets Attention
MESSAGE: Very cool pictures Greg. Part of the ritual of bring an old dryer back to life is vacuuming all the old lint out.
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Post# 2472-7/9/2001-11:50 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Photo Album
MESSAGE: Cute picture, Jason. Your cat looks just like my "Whiskers." He loves to lie at the laundry room door, and he likes to watch the front-load washer, but he has never climbed into the dryer. When I was a kid we had an orange tabby that liked nothing better than to nap in my mom's 1955 Frigidaire Imperial dryer. I can remember her being startled several times when she threw wet clothes in and the cat came flying out.
Rich
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Post# 2473-7/9/2001-12:47 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Perma Press care
MESSAGE: Tom, okay, I took your advice & bought some borax. I didn't have any peperment press shirts to do last night, but I did have some jersey/t-shirts & golf shirts used to work in the yard and generally sweating. I added the borax to the loads as well as the calgon water softener. Was this overkill, along iwth the regular detergent?
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Post# 2474-7/10/2001-05:49 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Perma Press care
MESSAGE: Bob, It is not only perma press shirts that are helped by the borax, so I think you will notice a benefit to using it on loads like you described. Rosemary DeCamp (sp?), may she rest in peace & sweetness, used to call borax "nature's sweetner;" not like sugar, but as a destinker. I used to love her commercials on Death Valley Days because there was often a glimpse of a washer agitating; so much more exciting than the Old Ranger scrubbing his hands with Boraxo powdered hand soap. Enjoy your borax laundering. Tom
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Post# 2475-7/10/2001-07:55 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Perma Press care (Calgon Commercial)
MESSAGE: That reminds me of the Calgon commercial from the 70s which sometimes plays on TV land. They have a shot of a GE washer agitating without the filter-flo on top (shame on them).
"Ancient Chinese Secret, huh?"
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Post# 2476-7/10/2001-08:14 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Perma Press care (Calgon Commercial)
MESSAGE: Jason1, I remember that one. Back in the 50s, when TV and automatic washers were new, I used to rate detergents by whether the commercials showed washing machines in action. Cheer never did, either in print or TV ads. Tide was usually good for action shots. Dash and All, both low sudsers had dramatic ads with the service man arriving and a FL all choked with suds. At the end of the commercial, it could be seen tumbling away with thin suds hitting the glass and the service man pulling a box of Dash out of his tool box or something corny like that. When Philco switched from their old design washer with the metal agitator to the Automagic with the pulsator that flopped around at the bottom of the tub, they claimed that it would not only wash six sheets, like an old fashion washer (here a shot of the old Philco agitating a very crowded tub), but it would even pull in a 7th sheet and there was a shot of the Automagic sucking in a sheet like a kid with a strand of spaghetti. It was very dramatic with the sheet hanging over the edge of the top of the machine almost reaching the floor and the other end being pulled down into the center of the tub with the rest of the sheet following. Tom
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Post# 2477-7/10/2001-08:32 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Perma Press care (Calgon Commercial)
MESSAGE: That line is used frequently in my laundromat when people ask me for some laundering advice. The older customers always chuckle, but the young ones just stare at me and blink, like deer in headlights.
-ph
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Post# 2478-7/10/2001-08:48 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Perma Press care (Calgon Commercial)
MESSAGE: Wow Tom, I would love to see that Automagic Commercial. I suspect it was rigged, because from what I know about the Automagic I can't possibly see how it could have pulled in that 7th sheet on its own.
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Post# 2479-7/10/2001-09:19 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
Dennis The Menace 07/10/01
MESSAGE: Be sure to look at the cartoon today. TT
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Post# 2480-7/10/2001-09:38 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Perma Press care (Calgon Commercial)
MESSAGE: Robert, I saw this commercial right after Thanksgiving, 1958 when we were at my grandparents' in Milwaukee. It was the first year of that machine with the solid tub, I believe. Chuck told John that that was the only version of the washer with any real action. I remember a shot down into the tub with all the sheets going around instead of just back and forth like in the old style Philco with the metal agitator. That Philco that John and I found years ago did nothing and used a lot of water doing it. It would turn over socks, but that was it. We left it at the thrift store as a donation, but did not claim anything on taxes--Heaven would have guaranteed an audit. Tom
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Post# 2481-7/10/2001-09:39 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dennis The Menace 07/10/01
MESSAGE: Sorry a thousand times, it was yesterday's cartoon with Dennis in the laundry room. Sorry. Tom
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Post# 2482-7/10/2001-09:59 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Perma Press care (Automagic Commercial)
MESSAGE: Hi Tom, my Automagic is a first year model (1959), with a solid tub. (It has a liner, but its still a solid tub). The turn over is OK, certainly not a 3-Ring Agitator, but you all can judge it for yourself at the convention. I bet if we try to duplicate what the commercial did, we have a sheet draped on the floor for quite a while.
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Post# 2483-7/10/2001-12:08 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Perma Press care
MESSAGE: But, I still add the Calgon, right???
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Post# 2484-7/10/2001-12:09 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Perma Press care (Calgon Commercial)
MESSAGE: Jason, neither is the water spewing out of the filter water orafice.
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Post# 2485-7/10/2001-12:12 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Perma Press care (Calgon Commercial)
MESSAGE: I vote for a re-enactment of this commercial at the convention!!!!
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Post# 2486-7/10/2001-12:15 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dennis The Menace 07/10/01
MESSAGE: I missed it, the paper went out with this mornings trash.
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Post# 2487-7/10/2001-12:16 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Perma Press care (Poor little GE washer)
MESSAGE: I remember now. They mutilated it so it wouldn't show the water. What fun is that?
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Post# 2488-7/10/2001-12:23 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
Ren & Stimpy washing machine
MESSAGE: For you who loved the Ren & Stimpy show. The episode Jiminy Lummox features washer. Ren comes home to his dismay "He didn't! OH NO!" (cut to a animated washer agitating) "He did it!" (Ren jumps in the washing machine) "Stimpy washed my used celebrity underwear (sobbing)." It's funny and I'll capture it and try to post it. Where can I post a video file like that anyway?
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Post# 2489-7/10/2001-12:36 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
Humor: Kenmore Calypso Southern Edition
MESSAGE: In an attempt to market the new Calypso to rural areas of the South, new features have been added to the KC to assist in operation of the washer.
On the control panel: two buttons only.. "Warsh!" and "Stop"
Theres a string of lights across the top that shows "Where you at?" in the cycle
"Fill" - tub fills with water
"Warsh" - agitate
"Warsh some mo'" - still agitating
"Let da water out" - drain
"Shake da trailer" - spinning the suds out
"Wrench" - fill with clean water
"Warsh da suds out" - agitate with clean water
"Let da water out again" - drain
"Shake da trailer some mo'" - high speed spin
In the machine there's three dispensers
"Warshin' powder" - put the soap here
"Blue stuff" - put the softener here
"Purex" - put the bleach here.
PS.. I live in the south and in a trailer.
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Post# 2490-7/10/2001-17:12 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dennis The Menace 07/10/01
MESSAGE: Bob, I missed it too, didn't get the newspaper.
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Post# 2491-7/10/2001-17:18 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dennis The Menace 07/10/01
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, do a lot of the American "cartoons" appear in your newspapers there?
QEOM
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Post# 2492-7/10/2001-17:33 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dennis The Menace 07/10/01
MESSAGE: Your Majesty,
No, we don't think so. At least we have never seen Dennis the Menace in a dutch newspaper.
QLOTOC
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Post# 2493-7/10/2001-19:29 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Perma Press care (Automagic Commercial)
MESSAGE: "a sheet draped on the floor for quite a while" -- and wicking water out of the tub! At least the sheet would get wet!
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Post# 2494-7/10/2001-20:10 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: "Whirlmore" Front Load Washer (Skipping Convention!!!!)
MESSAGE: Just talked with my local Sears,they are aware of the HE3t machine but have not yet received the training materials. "Jim" told me it won't be in the stores here till OCTOBER!!!!
How long must we wait---------------I'm skippping the convention and flying DIRECT to california!!!!!!
HA!
JETCONE
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Post# 2495-7/10/2001-20:52 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: "Whirlmore" Front Load Washer (Skipping Convention!!!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Jon
Don't skip the convention!!! How about if I bring a California Whirlmore with me to Minneapolis?! Ha!
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Post# 2496-7/10/2001-20:53 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: "Whirlmore" Front Load Washer (Call Now!)
MESSAGE: Call Sears in CA and order your Whirlmore set. Have it shipped directly to Robert's so that we all may see it at the convention. I wonder what cargo air rates are?
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Post# 2497-7/10/2001-21:10 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
Easy spindrier on Ebay
MESSAGE: Who lives in CT or close by? This Easy looks to be a late 40's/early 50's model. Jet...this can't be too far from Boston.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1445644803
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Post# 2498-7/10/2001-21:37 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: "Whirlmore" Front Load Washer (Skipping Convention!!!!)
MESSAGE: Jon & Rich, call me naive, but there's a little bug inside of me that's hoping the Whirlmores will be at the Sears at the Mall of America simply because of the mall's size. (I know, just call me dillusional). But, I'm hoping.
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Post# 2499-7/10/2001-22:15 ||| rapidry1000 (San Francisco)
SUBJECT:
RE: "Whirlmore" Front Load Washer (Whirlmore in San Francisco)
MESSAGE: Jon-
I've seen the new Whirlmore in person. The pair is impressive.
They seem huge like a commercial large front loader.
Jim in San Francisco.
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Post# 2500-7/10/2001-23:28 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
The Hazards of "No Phosphate" Detergents
MESSAGE: I was going through a newly arrived box Speed Queen manuals and service bulletins tonight and found this article on the newly introduced "no phosphate" detergents. The author's opinion is quite evident.
Enjoy!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1?e&.intl=us&.flabel=fld3&.from=d&.pindex=28&start=25&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1%3fd%26.flabel=fld3%26.intl=us%26.src=ph
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Post# 2501-7/10/2001-00:05 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Hazards of "No Phosphate" Detergents
MESSAGE: That's interesting Greg...I remember right about at that time all the hoo-ha that was going on about phosphates in detergent. I wonder how today's no phosphate detergents compare to the ones she's talking about back then?
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Post# 2502-7/11/2001-02:28 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Hazards of "No Phosphate" Detergents (You Go Ann!)
MESSAGE: I cant get over her sexy glasses Gansky!!!!
Arrrooohhh!!!
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Post# 2503-7/11/2001-04:52 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Hazards of "No Phosphate" Detergents
MESSAGE: This is a very interesting article. Although we in Canada have many of these non-phosphate detergents, 2 old fashioned phosphate brands are still available here. One is ABC detergent and the other is called 'Arctic Power' for cold water washing. The phosphate content in these is slightly lower than in the "olden days" due to gov't regulation, but the difference in cleanability is noticeable. The s/s tubs do stay nice and shiny without any residue and rinsing is very thorough. They also produce much more sudsing than the non-phosphate types. One s/s tub I polished up from a spare machine was totally dull and had this black residue of sorts that they spoke of, probably the result of the newer detergents or under dosing by the previous owner.
Eddy
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Post# 2504-7/11/2001-05:40 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Perma Press care
MESSAGE: Bob, yes. The Calgon is a superior water conditioner, but has none of the odor-removing effects of the borax. The borax, likewise, does not do what the Calgon does. Happy washing, Tom
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Post# 2505-7/11/2001-05:42 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Perma Press care (Calgon Commercial)
MESSAGE: Bob, unless Robert's Automagic is the first one with the solid tub, its action can be described by the bumper sticker on a pathetic little car I saw, "This car must be constipated, it can't pass a thing."
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Post# 2506-7/11/2001-05:54 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Hazards of "No Phosphate" Detergents
MESSAGE: Speed Queen with its solid tub probably had more of the "settling deposits" that she speaks of than makes with a perforated basket. I have noticed when I use the non-phosphate versions of Calgon and the cheaper product that the Weiss chain sells under their own label in my WO-65 that the dusty deposit on the tub after the cycle is worse than in a perforated tub machine like the Maytag A102, also with a dark porcelain tub. Phosphated Calgon did not cause this problem. Tom
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Post# 2507-7/11/2001-06:34 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
Whirlpool Combi`s
MESSAGE: Hi guys
Hope we are able to see the new Whirlpool machine in August, does the 1200rpm spin make it the fastest American F/loader on the market now?
In UK all the machines tend to be categorised by spin speed such as 1000, 1100-1300, 1400-1600 and now even a whizzing 1800, of course lets start the debate on centrifugal force v drum size as James Dyson did with the Contrarotator, 7kg drum, spin speed 1400rpm and level of moisture left in fabric comparable with 1600-1800 speed of other manufacturers.
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Post# 2508-7/11/2001-06:41 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
Whirlpool Combi gas(Questions,Questions???)
MESSAGE: Robert
In one of your photo albums you had a pic of a 58 gas Whirlpool combi, what drum size was this machine?, did it heat the water by gas or just the dryer?, and did the spray jet work all the time to pump water to the middle of the drum and soak the clother for wash/rinse etc?
...and last of all what spin speed is it?
and is it in the demo line up for August?
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 2509-7/11/2001-08:26 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: "Whirlmore" Front Load Washer (Skipping Convention!!!!)
MESSAGE: ITS A DEAL LITTLESPORT~~~~~!!
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Post# 2510-7/11/2001-08:27 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: "Whirlmore" Front Load Washer (Skipping Convention!!!!)
MESSAGE: Good Idea lets plan a field trip.
jetcone
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Post# 2511-7/11/2001-08:28 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!!
MESSAGE: TO all members attending convention~~~~
I need a head count and WHAT SIZE T shirt you wear.
All tallys in by FRIDAY This week!!!
jet
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Post# 2512-7/11/2001-08:30 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Combi`s
MESSAGE: Mike, Which Magazine pointed out years ago that some washers which have a lower advertised spin speed often spun as well or better than some that tout higher speeds because the higher speed was only for a very short time period, like a minute or less. Tom
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Post# 2513-7/11/2001-08:35 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!!
MESSAGE: Jon, I have one head and wear a large to allow for shrinkage because unlike you, I don't dry clothes in a cool dryer. John Lefever also has one head (I assume you need to know this for construction purposes) and should take a medium. Tom
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Post# 2514-7/11/2001-08:47 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!! (Tshirt)
MESSAGE: Jon,
I can't make the convention - but can I get a tshirt please?
Let me know the cost - I am extra large size
Thanks,
Peter
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Post# 2515-7/11/2001-08:58 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: "Whirlmore" Front Load Washer (I'll call the Mall of America)
MESSAGE: Later on in the day I'll call Sears at the Mega Mall. The HE3whateveritscalled thing might be moving west to east, so maybe it will be here by August. Keep your fingers crossed boys, the Sears at the MOA like the MOA is HUGE and since this mall is a major international tourist destination (yes, I know, sad but true), maybe this particular Sears might have it earlier.
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Post# 2516-7/11/2001-09:09 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Combi gas(Questions,Questions???)
MESSAGE: Hi Mike,
to answer your questions about the WP Combo:
-Drum size 29" in diameter.
-It uses the hot water line to enter hot water in the machine, but has a gas or electric heater (depending on the model) to keep the water temp at 120F or greater.
-There is a solenoid that keeps the spray going during the entire wash and all three rinse cycles, but closes the spray during the drain.
-The spin speed is 200rpm
AND YES!! It will be one of the 22 Washers that will be hooked up and run at the convention.
For the convention we will have the following hooked up and running:
-20 automatic washers,
-2 Combination Washer Dryers,
-1 wringer washer,
-3 automatic dryers (4 if I have time),
-3 dishwashers!.
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Post# 2517-7/11/2001-09:11 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!!
MESSAGE: Hi Jon, just wanted to let you know that I'll be coming to the convention YAY. Medium shirt size for me.
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Post# 2518-7/11/2001-09:14 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: "Whirlmore" Front Load Washer (Skipping Convention!!!!)
MESSAGE: This is all planned for Sunday morning. We'll have a "laundry party recovery brunch" at the Mall of America, then we're going to Sears to terriorize the sale people!!!
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Post# 2519-7/11/2001-10:36 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Mall of America store says...
MESSAGE: I just called the Sears MOA store, the appliance department sales person said the HE3t washer will be arriving at the Minneapolis Sears stores by MID-AUGUST. So its anyone's guess whether the washer will be in the store for our August 19th visit.
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Post# 2520-7/11/2001-10:50 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!!
MESSAGE: I'm not even gonna touch the head thing...
I wear a large, Jon...
-ph
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Post# 2521-7/11/2001-10:57 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!! (my size)
MESSAGE: Hey Jon
There are two coming here, sizes are:
Rich - XL
Gary - L
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Post# 2522-7/11/2001-10:58 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Combi`s
MESSAGE: Which brings me to another question....does spin drying at any speed or length "lose its effectiveness" after a certain threshold? I mean say I had an Easy washer; it wouldn't be very time efficient, but technically I could put the clothes in there and let them spin half the day. Is there a point, after 10 minutes or whatever where it doesn't really "get any better" thereafter?
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Post# 2523-7/11/2001-11:07 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Combi`s (Frigidaire F/L)
MESSAGE: Hi Tom,
I remember that the first model of the Frigidaire F/L spun at 800 for only one minute. Some friends had it and I made a point to go over and "help" them do laundry soon after it was installed under the counter in their kitchen. I was surprized that the "fast spin" that was marked on the dial lasted so short a period of time.
Frigidaire changed that the following year. My Kenmore F/L (by Frigidaire) spins one minute at 500, then ramps up to 1000 for 4 minutes. It does a much, much, much better job of extraction than the previous top-loader I owned that spun at 680 for 4 minutes.
How long does your Gibson spin at top speed?
Rich
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Post# 2524-7/11/2001-11:08 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!! (my size)
MESSAGE: And when you get back to California Rich, you can go to Disneyland in your matching washer convention shirts! Come to think of it, maybe you should get one for Aaron too.... ;-)
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Post# 2525-7/11/2001-11:26 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!! (my size)
MESSAGE: Hi Scott
Ha! Wearing our convention T-shirts, we'd blend right in with the summer tourist crowd at the "happiest place on earth."
But I think Robert's basement will be the happiest place on earth during the weekend of the convention!
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Post# 2526-7/11/2001-11:35 ||| jaxcubb (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Combi`s (Frigidaire F/L)
MESSAGE: Ruh Roh! I think my Fridaire F/L that I've had for almost 3 years now may only spin at 800 for a minute. Gee, I feel like I've been ripped :(
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Post# 2527-7/11/2001-11:36 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Combi`s
MESSAGE: As soon as we know the radius of the drum we can here calculate the G-forces. I guess it might be a little less than the 1800 rpm machines.
LINK: http://www.eppendorf.com/centrifuges/calcu/rechner.html
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Post# 2528-7/11/2001-11:38 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!!
MESSAGE: I sure am coming to the convention and I wear size Large.
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Post# 2529-7/11/2001-11:40 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: "Whirlmore" Front Load Washer (I'll call the Mall of America)
MESSAGE: Nothing sad about that when we come to the convention. I'm ready for the total culture shock.
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Post# 2530-7/11/2001-11:43 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Mall of America store says...
MESSAGE: Perhaps you should call them and tell them there is an international convention about washers going on in August and there will be quite a few people who want to investigate the newest technologies....
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Post# 2531-7/11/2001-11:43 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
Mom's cat loves Frigidaire
MESSAGE: Now that the cat has "warmed up" to the new dryer, she crawls in and REFUSES to come out. My mom has to throw wet clothes in and then she'll jump out.
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Post# 2532-7/11/2001-12:07 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
Convention!!!!
MESSAGE: it's official, I"M CUMMING!!!! Arriving on the 17th (about 1 or 2) and departing no Monday the 20th!!! The flight was booked this morning.
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Post# 2533-7/11/2001-12:14 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Combi`s
MESSAGE: Scott, yes, after a point, the forces generated during the spin remove all they can. Because of the capillary action of natural clothing fibers like cotton, meaning how the absorb water, they cannot be spun completely dry and you reach the point of diminishing returns where you are spending more energy extracting than you would be saving in the dryer. However, the early version of the Frigidaire Gallery/Gibson/Kenmore FL that ramped up to the top spin speed for less than a minute were not in danger of reaching this point. Some synthetic fabrics, on the other hadn that do not absorb water, but merely hold it in the spaces between the fibers can almost be spun completely dry, but you would have to deal with wrinkles. An easy demonstration is to soak a cotton washcloth and a nylon 3M scrubbing pad. Whether you wring the washcloth as tightly as you can or hold it by a corner and sling it downward as many times as you can, it remains noticeably damp and you reach a point after which you cannot get anymore water out of it squeezing as hard as you can. You will also notice that slinging it is not as efficient as wringing. Then take the dripping 3M scouring pad between your thumb and first two fingers and sling it downward as hard as you can a few times. Great amounts of water leave it because it does not soak up water like the cotton and it will be almost dry when you finish. Conversely, squeezing or wringing it does not remove as much water from it because you do not have to remove as much water from the fibers, just from the spaces between them and the nylon does not crush as easily as the wet cotton.
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Post# 2534-7/11/2001-12:15 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!!
MESSAGE: Jon, bless yore finger-nimbling heart. Aw shucks. Anyway, I wear a large t-shirt. It's best, even though I've lost 15 pounds this past 6 weeks.
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Post# 2535-7/11/2001-12:19 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Combi gas(Questions,Questions???)
MESSAGE: Hey robert, I've NEVER EVER seen a wringer washer used. I can't wait. But, I watch my arms in respect for Rich.
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Post# 2536-7/11/2001-12:29 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Combi`s (Frigidaire F/L)
MESSAGE: Rich, I don't know how you knew about my Gibson. When they first came out, John became a Gibson dealer so that he could get them at dealer cost. There was also a rebate so I said I would buy one to try out because we could get it so cheap. With great excitement we unpacked it and I put in a load of towels. The rinsing was so pathetic from the constant interrupting of the spinning attempts by the sudsy water slogging between the inner and outer tubs that I decided it was not for me. Then the joke of a final high speed spin came and went in the blink of an eye and I told John to sell the thing as fast as he could. He had a waiting list of people who needed to replace their old WH stack mate washers so he sold it right away and that was it for me and the Gibson. I had one of the older style one belt White-Westinghouse machines that we found at night for a while and then the Miele came into my life and the next night the Creda. I would not want either for my only washer, but would pick the Miele for a second washer along side a good top loader. Happy washing! Tom
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Post# 2537-7/11/2001-12:33 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention!!!!
MESSAGE: Great news. Now calm down and get a towel to clean up the mess. Looking forward to meeting you. Tom
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Post# 2538-7/11/2001-12:42 ||| geodon2000 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!!
MESSAGE: hey jet...
I wear a large...
thanks...
geodon
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Post# 2539-7/11/2001-12:43 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!!
MESSAGE: Jon, I'm sure I'm undoubtedly the only one here, and I hope I don't offend anyone, but I have an aversion to pink clothes. I hope the shirts aren't all in pink.
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Post# 2540-7/11/2001-13:04 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention!!!!
MESSAGE: YAY, YAY, YAY, it will be so nice to have you here at the convention Bob!
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Post# 2541-7/11/2001-13:07 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Combi gas(Questions,Questions???)
MESSAGE: and since it's a see-thru clear tub wringer washer, with a glass pyrex agitator, lighted from below, that will be quite a first for you.
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Post# 2542-7/11/2001-13:20 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Combi`s (whirlmore drum size)
MESSAGE: Of course, we'll have to actually measure it ourselves, because Whirlpool may have listed 1200 RPM as an "equivalent to" much like they did the Whirlmore's capacity rating. Is there a way to actually measure the RPM's?
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Post# 2543-7/11/2001-13:37 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Combi`s
MESSAGE: Thanks Tom, that's interesting! People will be amazed, as was I, with the difference in extraction between the Frigidaires and the other washers. Having grown up with the 1010 of course I just figured this was the way things were supposed to be. But after being away from that and now back, the difference is just amazing. Even the 850 multimatic results are light years ahead in their damp drying ability. I can dry two loads in one coin's worth of cycle in our Maytag coin dryers now where I could only one using the Maytag washers, and then I had to be careful not to overdo or it wouldn't be dry.
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Post# 2544-7/11/2001-13:39 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Combi gas(Questions,Questions???)
MESSAGE: You'll be in for a treat, Bob, especially with this particular one you will see. I also wonder Robert if your Hoover twintub works. I bet Chestermike among others would enjoy seeing that if so.
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Post# 2545-7/11/2001-13:41 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Combi`s (Frigidaire F/L)
MESSAGE: Tom was this Gibson you had the "corporate twin" of the current Frigidaire/Kenmore/GEs, or is at an older style?
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Post# 2546-7/11/2001-15:02 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention!!!!
MESSAGE: another YAY YAY YAY
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Post# 2547-7/11/2001-15:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Combi gas(Questions,Questions???)
MESSAGE: Only the single-tub wringer version I have works, the pump has problems on the twin-tub version, its not slated for fixin at this time.
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Post# 2548-7/11/2001-17:10 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention!!!!
MESSAGE: Thanks Uni. It's so nice to finally yet a "yay yay" from someone here.
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Post# 2549-7/11/2001-17:12 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Combi`s (whirlmore drum size)
MESSAGE: Well Rich, Maytag's MAH7500 model has a diagnostic mode that shows water temp and spin speed rpms as well as washing rpms. But, it doesn't appear the Whirlmore's display will be that sophisticated.
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Post# 2550-7/11/2001-17:29 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention!!!!
MESSAGE: Well Bob I too would certainly be classified as one of those folks who could not be more pleased that you are coming!
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Post# 2551-7/11/2001-17:46 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention!!!!
MESSAGE: I arrive in Miss Minnie at 1:25. So, I'll need suggestions as to where to go from there. I'm supposed to have a wheelchair meet me at the gate so they'll be able to head me in the right direcion for the hotel transportation or whatever.
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Post# 2552-7/11/2001-18:16 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!!
MESSAGE: Steve and Rhinnie (both large)
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Post# 2553-7/11/2001-18:27 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!!
MESSAGE: Yay! Yay! Yay! Yay! Yay! Yay! Yay! Yay!
George is coming, too! Georgia will be well represented!
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Post# 2554-7/11/2001-18:50 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!! (Classic Auxillary)
MESSAGE: Hi Steve
I'm glad to see Rhinnie is coming with you. He and Gary can form the Washer Widower's Auxillary. Ha!
Rich
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Post# 2555-7/11/2001-18:55 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!! (Classic Auxillary)
MESSAGE: Oh I don't know Rich, Gary may never let on, but I bet he's excited to get his hands in the laundry again! ;-) We can teach the uniniated to ease the items into the four corners of the tub like ribbon candy! ;-)
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Post# 2556-7/11/2001-19:55 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!!
MESSAGE: As far as I have decided at the moment, I'll be there. I haven't booked the flight or made room reservations yet, but will be doing that ASAP.
Size Medium, generally, unless they're cut small. I have lost around 20 pounds since early in May.
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Post# 2557-7/11/2001-20:57 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!!
MESSAGE: Jon (Jet)-
If it's a t-shirt, all cotton and going to shrink, I can take a large size. I guess I'll go with the the medium though. I don't want it looking like I'm wearing a house dress or a shift until it's shrunk down.
Also, by the way, my partner Jim will be traveling and attending with me. He's a big, tall guy and he wears a large. Please count him in!
Thanks,
Ken Y.
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Post# 2558-7/11/2001-21:31 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT:
Count me in!!
MESSAGE: I still have to make my plane rsvp. but I do plan on being there. I need a large. Just let me know what I owe and to whom. Thanks.. Terry
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Post# 2559-7/11/2001-23:01 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!!
MESSAGE: XL for me....
Damn those blasted Oreos!
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Post# 2560-7/11/2001-23:09 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
Who Wants Whirlmore - HE3t Training Info???
MESSAGE: Risking everything for the continuing education and enjoyment of our club members, look what I swiped from Sears today!!
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/surgilator/lst?&.dir=/Whirlmore+Training+Info&.src=ph&.view=t&.last=1
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Post# 2561-7/11/2001-23:34 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Who Wants Whirlmore - HE3t Training Info???
MESSAGE: OMG! Did any alarms go off??
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Post# 2562-7/11/2001-23:48 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Who Wants Whirlmore - HE3t Training Info???
MESSAGE: Hee hee - I didn't know exactly what I had until I got out into the mall - which I did quickly. Luckily, I had already bought a pair of hose clamp pliers (to save my nails) before knocking over the appliance department, so I had a bag to help conceal the evidence.
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Post# 2563-7/12/2001-02:20 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention!!!!
MESSAGE: When searching for flights a couple days ago, I found the following at a very reasonable $228 --
arrival on 8/17, 4:00 p.m.
departure on 8/20, 3:04 p.m.
Alas, that one is no longer available. The closest I find now (at expedia.com) is $421 --
arrival on 8/17, 3:50 p.m.
departure on 8/20, 4:45 p.m.
-or-
departure on 8/20, 1:20 p.m.
1:20 doesn't leave time to participate in the proposed Tour of the City, so I went with the 4:45 departure.
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Post# 2564-7/12/2001-04:47 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!!
MESSAGE: Unfortuneatly I will not be able to attend :(
SD
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Post# 2565-7/12/2001-04:52 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Who Wants Whirlmore - HE3t Training Info??? (The Best Reading!)
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg - this was the best thing to wake up to and read.
I didn't realize 2 models are being offered. I wonder if they will ever make it a combo.
Peter
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Post# 2566-7/12/2001-05:04 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention!!!!
MESSAGE: Glenn, I'm departing at 1:20 on the 20th, I've got to get back to Killeen at a reasonable hour so as not to inconvenience someone to pick me up. The 8:54 departure on Friday will be pushing it, but I have a couple of friends who understand my fascination with appliances and I know they'll be mopre than happy to help.
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Post# 2567-7/12/2001-05:26 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!!
MESSAGE: YAY, Geodon's gonna be there. Looking forward to meeting you, fellow Atlantan. Tom
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Post# 2568-7/12/2001-05:29 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Combi`s (measuring spin rpm)
MESSAGE: Rich, sure, with a tachometer, but for the hand held one John has, you need to be able to have the thing operate with the door open. There are newer ones that do it with light beams, too. Tom
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Post# 2569-7/12/2001-05:32 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Combi`s (Frigidaire F/L)
MESSAGE: Scott, it was the corporate twin of the first model that came on the market in the redesigned style. There was a period of months where you could not buy any FL from White WH because they were changing over. John sold a lot of rebuilt ones during that period. As Rich said, they improved that spin fairly quickly. TT
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Post# 2570-7/12/2001-06:02 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Who Wants Whirlmore - HE3t Training Info???
MESSAGE: So Lightfingers Louise, the extra large shirt is for spiriting training materials out of stores? Many thanks. I sure am glad that they went to Italy for design and Germany for engineering and not the other way around. I wonder if the HE3t is a 220 volt machine with the heater? They look like they have the waterfront covered with this machine, regular, taller, stacked, they have the options. Amazing find Greg. Thanks again. Tom
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Post# 2571-7/12/2001-06:04 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Who Wants Whirlmore - HE3t Training Info???
MESSAGE: That's sorta like when John discovered the Calypso video behind the washer on the floor. Being tall and thin, he reached down and got it and passed it to Chuck who got it out of the store. TT
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Post# 2572-7/12/2001-06:09 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention!!!! (Air fares for washer pilgrimage)
MESSAGE: Has everyone checked Sun Country Airlines or Airways (whatever)? They are Minneapolis based and offer very low fares. We got direct flights for $212 round trip. I only got the quote on OneTravel.com. The airline has a very good website. Tom
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Post# 2573-7/12/2001-06:09 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!!
MESSAGE: Oh Bummer. Enjoy the new car. Tom
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Post# 2574-7/12/2001-07:42 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Who Wants Whirlmore - HE3t Training Info???
MESSAGE: I remember when I worked there in high school, there were product info books that gave the more technical data on everything in the store. I worked in paint and those books were boring, but the appliance books were a lot of fun to read when I had the opportunity a couple of times. Would be nice to get some of those pages on this machine. Will John get some training on this like on the KA dishwasher?
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Post# 2575-7/12/2001-07:47 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Who Wants Whirlmore - HE3t Training Info???
MESSAGE: I doubled my potential sentence by grabbing two of the books - "go big or stay home!" Inside the front cover fold out is a poster size picture of the machine at sort of a downward angle from the top right side. It's very cool, but my scanner isn't large enough. When I was scanning this last night, my scanner froze up. I thought, this is my punishment, now I need a new scanner, but I got it working again.
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Post# 2576-7/12/2001-08:06 ||| geodon2000 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!!
MESSAGE: thanks tt, and likewise...
btw...found a license plate holder at the park...
doesn't have rainbow palms, but has a rainbow geometric design across the bottom...
had all the queens searching for the palms, but this was the best we could do...
i'll bring it and you can take a look...
geodon
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Post# 2577-7/12/2001-08:13 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Who Wants Whirlmore - HE3t Training Info???
MESSAGE: Greg, You are right; the service training lit is the stuff with the goodies in it. I plan to bring the WP tall tub DW info to the convention for Bob. Since Sears gets the washer a month ahead of WP, our service and product training will probably be late fall since I believe Sears has a target date of September for the national introduction of the machine. As soon as we get training stuff, I will send it to Robert for scanning, or you, if that is better depending on how busy either of you happens to be at the time. Thanks again for risking all to provide the scans. Maybe you can make ammends by returning one of the brochures now that you have scanned it. Tom
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Post# 2578-7/12/2001-08:20 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Who Wants Whirlmore - HE3t Training Info???
MESSAGE: If you mention it at confession, maybe your penance would be doing the rectory's laundry or doing the vestments and altar linen. A lady who was the mother of one of my mom's friends did that when her son came home from the service and got a job. He was still living at home and bought his mom a Maytag automatic so she washed and ironed all that stuff as an act of thanksgiving. Can you imagine all that work? Tom
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Post# 2579-7/12/2001-08:29 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!!
MESSAGE: Geodon, Bless your heart. I got the Palm Plate holders at Gay Pride here. The Lesbian-run concession is the only place I have seen these, although other stores carry other tag holders from the same company. They have another one with 6 porpoises in the colors also, but I like the palms. Jason thought they were pretty neat when he saw them Monday. Thanks so much for the search. I will buy the holder for you for one of John's vehicles. Best wishes, Tom
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Post# 2580-7/12/2001-08:29 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Who Wants Whirlmore - HE3t Training Info??? (vidio)
MESSAGE: No Tom
that was me
hope u r doing well
Peter
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Post# 2581-7/12/2001-08:38 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!! (Head n Spiraling Count)
MESSAGE: Jet
Definatly one Head and one Large for the other....
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 2582-7/12/2001-08:38 ||| geodon2000 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!!
MESSAGE: hey tt...
not to worry...
if you don't like it, i have use for it here...
glad you found the palms...i know your search has been extensive...
geodon
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Post# 2583-7/12/2001-08:41 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Combi gas(Questions,Questions???) (Water Fountain!!!)
MESSAGE: Scott
Okay, So who`s told you of my trick with the "Active Water Fountain" and the Hoover Twinny, Hah!, Hah!
Mike
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Post# 2584-7/12/2001-10:53 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Who Wants Whirlmore - HE3t Training Info???
MESSAGE: Yes Greg the manual is just fantastic thanks for scanning it in! They really should get on the stick now and get the info directed to the customer out now too. Maytag was giving away video tapes and everything before the Neptune came out.
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Post# 2585-7/12/2001-10:57 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Who Wants Whirlmore - HE3t Training Info??? (New Whirlmore FL)
MESSAGE: It would be great to see a vidio
Peter
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Post# 2586-7/12/2001-11:05 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Who Wants Whirlmore - HE3t Training Info???
MESSAGE: That sort of thing may have been more common than you think, particularly if this story takes place back a few years, as I suspect it may. My great aunt (grandmother's sister) lived with, cooked and cleaned and washed for her 5 bachelor brothers all her life. Matter of fact, I watching 2020 or something one day and in Italy the kids are expected to stay living at home their whole lives and mom does all the cooking and housework and the family eats dinner together at night just like when they were growing up. These kids were like all major rich successful people too. And if they married, they would still live in part of the same house or a block away or whatever, never very far. I found that very interesting. I lived at home until my father retired and they moved when I was 25, but with my core interests of course, I was a big help around the house anyway.
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Post# 2587-7/12/2001-11:07 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!!
MESSAGE: Tom is Jason up there again? Is that why I have not heard from him?
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Post# 2588-7/12/2001-11:09 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Combi gas(Questions,Questions???) (Water Fountain!!!)
MESSAGE: Oh I must say now I am interested in hearing about *this*!
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Post# 2589-7/12/2001-11:15 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!! (Hi Jet!)
MESSAGE: I will be attending/participating in the convention, and I why don't you make my shirt a large. If I am going to own a t-shirt I am very happy it will be one of the tasteful ones you produce. I have seen several nice examples of your work!
Scott
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Post# 2590-7/12/2001-11:24 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention!!!!
MESSAGE: Glenn do you fly from Dallas or Houston? Did you already book? I just looked in Expedia and saw some flights in the $250 range...
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Post# 2591-7/12/2001-11:28 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention!!!!
MESSAGE: Dallas was even less $131 rt nonstop even!
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Post# 2592-7/12/2001-11:52 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Combi`s (Westy f/l?)
MESSAGE: Hi Tom
You just made me think of something. There are no White-Westinghouse front loaders made today, are there? (Unless Electrolux/WCI is marketing some in a targeted part of the country.) After WCI discontinued manufacturing the Westinghouse design from the 60's, they brought the Electrolux design to market under the Frigidaire name rather than Westinghouse.
It just struck me as strange that after Westinghouse alone manufactured American-made front loaders for so many decades, that they are not here as the front loaders make a big splash.
But, then again, the "real" Westinghouse has been gone a long time, just like the "real" Frigidaire.
Rich
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Post# 2593-7/12/2001-12:11 ||| RobGwisdala (Troy Ohio 45373)
SUBJECT:
Maytag Atlantis Washer.
MESSAGE: Hello Everyone.
My grandmother bought a Maytag Atlantis washer on 7-6-01. The washer was delivered on 7-8-01. The model number is MAV6200AWW.
She really likes the washer very well. I heard the washer in operation during high speed agitation and during high speed spin. That washer is the quietest that I ever heard. It washes and rinses and extracts water very well.
I have a question for the "Gurus" out there.
How does the Maytag Atlantis MAV6200 compare to the Maytag Performa LAT3500?
Rob
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Post# 2594-7/12/2001-12:14 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Who Wants Whirlmore - HE3t Training Info??? (Blurb n Bits)
MESSAGE: Well done that man!!!!... More bottle than me,
I just keep having this vision of us conventions buddies swathed around the machine in Sears (it WILL be there, positive vibes!!) with our videos, digital cameras and screwdrivers, taking the thing to bits to see what stuff its really made of, and then after we`ve left the salespeople left with a pile of bits cos we`ve needed a souvenier each!!!! Hah! Hah! Hah!Hah!
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Post# 2595-7/12/2001-12:20 ||| RobGwisdala (Troy Ohio 45373)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag Atlantis Washer. (Ryanm and Estate Sale Gary.)
MESSAGE: Ryanm and Estate Sale Gary=
Do you still have your Norge/Magic Chef #20 washer with the electric tub brake?(I know you still have yours, Gary.)
I recommend selling your washers and buying an Maytag Atlantis washer. The Maytag Atlantis is the Norge/Magic Chef #20 washer with the nonelectric tub brake.
Rob
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Post# 2596-7/12/2001-12:24 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Combi`s (FL)
MESSAGE: Rich,
It seems like Frigidaire replaced Westinghouse
Peter
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Post# 2597-7/12/2001-12:25 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Who Wants Whirlmore - HE3t Training Info???
MESSAGE: Tom, thanks for thinking of me & the WP tall tub 1500. Bob
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Post# 2598-7/12/2001-12:40 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Combi`s (FL)
MESSAGE: ...if only the same had been the case for toploaders, about 20 years ago!
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Post# 2599-7/12/2001-13:55 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Combi`s (OH YES)
MESSAGE: That was the most fatal mistake ever made in the appliance world.
Peter
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Post# 2600-7/12/2001-14:01 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention!!!!
MESSAGE: Houston. Hobby airport, or IAH. Hobby is about 45 minutes closer. But I need a non-stop flight so I don't get confused and turned bass-ackward on a changeover, and I didn't find any non-stop flights from Hobby, only from IAH. I've been to Hobby once before, but don't have a clue how to get there, or to IAH. My sweet sister has volunteered to haul me around, or I have a good friend who I'm sure would do it if sis gets in a bind. I hope I don't get stuck at MSP! I'm like a 5-year-old on his first solo plane trip. EEEEKKKKKKK! I have a serious phobia about getting stuck/lost alone in an unfamiliar place.
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Post# 2601-7/12/2001-14:13 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
YAY YAY YAY
MESSAGE: Deep breaths Dadoes, you'll do just fine. Traveling is fun! YAY, YAY, YAY for Dadoes coming too!
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Post# 2602-7/12/2001-14:23 ||| estate-sale-gary (Golden Valley, MN)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag Atlantis Washer. (That's an impressive electric tub brake ya got there, boy...)
MESSAGE: ....wait...this is the classic appliance club, Rob. If I ran out and bought a NEW machine, I'd get blackballed from the club...I'm practically an honorary member as it is!
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Post# 2603-7/12/2001-14:42 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
August 1st deadline for the hotel
MESSAGE: Be sure you all have confirmed reservations at our Holiday Inn. August 1st is the deadline...
-ph
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Post# 2604-7/12/2001-14:45 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: YAY YAY YAY
MESSAGE: I agree with Robert... YAY YAY YAY!!! Dadoes and Appnut will both be at convention!
-ph
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Post# 2605-7/12/2001-14:48 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag Atlantis Washer.
MESSAGE: Aren't the LAT Performas the machines with obital tranny and the original porcelain tub? I know the MAV machines are the Norgetags... The LAT's are also the coin-op Maytags...
-ph
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Post# 2606-7/12/2001-14:51 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag Atlantis Washer. (watch out)
MESSAGE: Mind those recommendations, Rob... You may incur certain people's wrath with statements like that...
-ph
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Post# 2607-7/12/2001-14:54 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Who Wants Whirlmore - HE3t Training Info??? (Blurb n Bits)
MESSAGE: The salespeople may need a cigarette after we are done with them...
-ph
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Post# 2608-7/12/2001-15:03 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Who Wants Whirlmore - HE3t Training Info???
MESSAGE: Oh you horrible child, you... you... you great guy!!!!
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Post# 2609-7/12/2001-15:04 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention!!!! (airport-hotel transportation)
MESSAGE: 'Taint nothing to it! There should be enough gate agents and airpor personnel around that will easily guide you to where you need to be...
No one should be left stranded at the airport... Like most airports, there's probably an area between the baggage claim and the exit doors with a bank of courtesy phones. You need to find the phone for Holiday Inn Airport #2. Or they may have one phone with a big colorful wall-size directory that you have to dial a code to get the hotel. Then you wait outside for the shuttle to come. If the MSP airport is particularly busy like Atlanta (I kinda doubt it), there won't be any courtesy phones and you just wait outside for the shuttle to come by on it's regular non-stop schedule.
If you have any questions about the hotel, please send me an email - peter.haritatos@basshotels.com or PeterH770@aol.com
-ph
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Post# 2610-7/12/2001-15:09 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Who Wants Whirlmore - HE3t Training Info??? (Laundry for God)
MESSAGE: My grandmother did that duty in rotation with the other laidies in the "altar guild." My mother made all the altar linens (sewn, embroidered, etc.) for our church here many years ago and they are still in use today. I, on the other hand, drive by many churches everyday.
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Post# 2611-7/12/2001-15:17 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention!!!!
MESSAGE: oic, now I understand. The flights I saw connected in Dallas, I didn't look far enough down the list to the nonstop ones.
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Post# 2612-7/12/2001-15:22 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag Atlantis Washer. (That's an impressive electric tub brake ya got there, boy...)
MESSAGE: Practically??? You're on the profiles list, have a dream machine (the '57 Control Tower washer - right?) and by now your house must be crammed with vintage items (like ours are) ----- baby, you're in!
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Post# 2613-7/12/2001-15:32 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention!!!! (airport-hotel transportation)
MESSAGE: Peter we probably have one of the best airport situations here a person could ask for. It's fairly close to downtown and easy to get in and out of, and soon it will even be connected to the city by rail. It has grown exponentially in my lifetime but it's really no problem at all to navigate and rarely is it overly busy. There's good signage, courtesy phones and good information desks all over and little cars that drive all around and can take you places inside.
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Post# 2614-7/12/2001-15:34 ||| estate-sale-gary (Golden Valley, MN)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag Atlantis Washer. (Control Tower? I meant Control Tops!)
MESSAGE: Actually, the '57 Control Tower comments stem back to when I first met Rob Seger through a mutual friend (and co-worker). You're correct, I do have a house full (3800 sqf) of vintage items but mostly Heywood Wakefield furniture, California pottery, Moss Lamps and Red Wing pottery. Anyway, I liked the design of the Control Tower and told Rob Seger that I could find one easily. He laughed. Why not? I find everything else that I put my mind to! I'm still looking. Seger brings up my little bet when he wants to needle me!
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Post# 2615-7/12/2001-16:50 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention!!!!
MESSAGE: Glenn, you're not alone. Althhough I have a legit excuse, that's why I'm having a wheelchair meet me at the plane. I won't have to look and try & figure out where I'm going. I'm just as scared as you are.
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Post# 2616-7/12/2001-16:57 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention!!!! (Traveling)
MESSAGE: I get nervous also - but u guys r at least luckey to be able to go 2 the convention. I have 2 miss out. Hopefully next year.
Have a JetAction of a time.
Peter
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Post# 2617-7/12/2001-17:03 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention!!!!
MESSAGE: Well we're all behind you guys 100% and are looking forward to seeing you and are delighted you are coming! I'm sure in the end it will have been a wonderful experience. Bob, good thinking to make whatever arrangements to make things easiest for you.
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Post# 2618-7/12/2001-19:28 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Who Wants Whirlmore - HE3t Training Info??? (my vision)
MESSAGE: I envision a charter bus pulling up to an estate sale and a busload of 'queens' decending on a poor unsuspecting home owner inspecting appliances and snapping pictures!
Steve 1-18
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Post# 2619-7/12/2001-20:04 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Who Wants Whirlmore - HE3t Training Info??? (my vision)
MESSAGE: The "Appliance Paparratzi!" (sp?)
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Post# 2620-7/12/2001-23:08 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
Old Laundry Room Get a New Resident
MESSAGE: I got the painting and shelves done last week in the old laundry room and tonight moved it's first new resident in. I picked up what I needed for the Westinghouse dryer today and got it ready for it's first load tonight. Of course, before we can dry, we must wash! I snapped some pics of the room, washing and the dryer.
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/surgilator/vwp?.dir=/New+Laundry+Room&.src=ph&.dnm=Southwest+Corner.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/surgilator/lst%3f%26.dir=/New%2bLaundry%2bRoom%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 2621-7/12/2001-23:08 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
Old Laundry Room Gets a New Resident
MESSAGE: I got the painting and shelves done last week in the old laundry room and tonight moved it's first new resident in. I picked up what I needed for the Westinghouse dryer today and got it ready for it's first load tonight. Of course, before we can dry, we must wash! I snapped some pics of the room, washing and the dryer.
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/surgilator/vwp?.dir=/New+Laundry+Room&.src=ph&.dnm=Southwest+Corner.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/surgilator/lst%3f%26.dir=/New%2bLaundry%2bRoom%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 2622-7/12/2001-01:32 ||| miss jet cone (Hopkins ,MN)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!! (shirt size)
MESSAGE:
I have been out of town for awhile so I missed your
due date sorry. I take a Xtra large if you have one if
not that is ok.
thanks karen
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Post# 2623-7/12/2001-01:52 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
KA (over)Loaded
MESSAGE: Here are three shots of another KitchenAid Superba overload.
http://users.wcnet.net/dadoes/ka-loaded-top.jpg
http://users.wcnet.net/dadoes/ka-loaded-bottom-1.jpg
http://users.wcnet.net/dadoes/ka-loaded-bottom-2.jpg
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Post# 2624-7/13/2001-05:42 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Old Laundry Room Get a New Resident
MESSAGE: Greg, I love the "handy" fabric softener dispenser. And as for the fameous overflow rinsing of Maytag, that's truly where the rubber meets the suds LOL
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Post# 2625-7/13/2001-06:22 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Who Wants Whirlmore - HE3t Training Info???
MESSAGE: Scott, 5 bachelor brothers! Now there is a fertile field for the immagination. Yes, this was the early 50s and the woman was already a grandmother. Tom
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Post# 2626-7/13/2001-06:30 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!!
MESSAGE: Hello Scott, Yes, Jason is up here and leaving this afternoon for home. He has done all kinds of wiring and stuff. I now have greatly enhanced outside electrical connections, a new separate 120 circuit so that both Unimatics can operate at once along with the Maytag sisters and 4 new 230 volt circuits and a subpanel (the second one) for them. I think it is a sure thing that he will be coming to the convention. Tom
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Post# 2627-7/13/2001-06:30 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: "Whirlmore" Front Load Washer (Jim Whirlmore pix please???)
MESSAGE: Hi Jim!
HOW COOL! Please RUN back to Sears and take some pix?? What colors were they? Was there Graphite?? OOHH I can't wait!!!
jet
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Post# 2628-7/13/2001-06:35 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!! (Slapped at Convention)
MESSAGE: YOU WILL BE SLAPPED IN FRONT OF THE ENTIRE MEMBERSHIP!
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Post# 2629-7/13/2001-06:39 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Mall of America store says...
MESSAGE: GOOD point Louis!
jon
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Post# 2630-7/13/2001-06:41 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!!
MESSAGE: We'll have to seeeeeeeeeee...................
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Post# 2631-7/13/2001-06:44 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Combi`s (Westy f/l?)
MESSAGE: Rich, sort of like Moses not getting to enter the promised land. It is an ironic twist, although you normally get a twist of lemon or lime with a drink. I have never heard anyone request an ironic twist. Anyway, yes, the whole name Westinghouse has disappeared and what makes that strange is that while WCI bought Frigidaire, it is the Frigidaire name that lives on in the cheaper WCI designed appliances that, in earlier years after the acquisition, traced their design back to Westinghouse. Tom
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Post# 2632-7/13/2001-06:45 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!!
MESSAGE: My,my everyone seems to be trimming down for the convention!!!
jet
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Post# 2633-7/13/2001-06:46 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!!
MESSAGE: Greg They were always my downfall too!
jon
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Post# 2634-7/13/2001-06:51 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention!!!! (airport-hotel transportation)
MESSAGE: Those little carts that drive around inside the terminal are the wrinkle wagons. Just kidding, Tom
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Post# 2635-7/13/2001-06:52 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Who Wants Whirlmore - HE3t Training Info???
MESSAGE: OH MY GOWD!! GREG WHAT A SCOOP! You are a cub reporter!
How did you do that? I must go snoop around Sears here!
jon
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Post# 2636-7/13/2001-06:54 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!!
MESSAGE: Sorry Scott fi there are any extras what is you size?
jon
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Post# 2637-7/13/2001-06:56 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention!!!!
MESSAGE: Bob and Glenn, would it help if the ladies' auxillary of the club sent members to meet you? We don't want this to be traumatic for anyone and with shuttles from the Holiday Inn to the airport, anyone could do it even if they did not have a car. Both of you please post your arrival times and I am sure someone can meet you at the gate and help. We are all here for each other. Tom
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Post# 2638-7/13/2001-07:02 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Combi`s (Westy f/l?)
MESSAGE: Rich how sad but true! Westinghouse stuck it our for so many years think of all that water saved over those years by their design and now F/L are all the rage again.
jet
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Post# 2639-7/13/2001-07:04 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Old Laundry Room Get a New Resident
MESSAGE: Greg, thanks for the great pics. Is ridin' the wave at the start of spin or just the tidal waves set up by the Gyrator? It looks like the water level is lower on the agitator. Love the overflow rinse. I have a WH dryer like yours, but the drive wheel must need new tread because the drum will turn empty, but you put any clothes in and it can't make it. Maybe Bob Dole would have a remedy. Tom
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Post# 2640-7/13/2001-07:37 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
Westy FL's
MESSAGE: Westing house is very alive and well in Australia. Though they have usually concentrated on Kitchen Appliancs, they Have two front loading models. They are rebadged LG models, but are popular.
LINK: www.westinghouse.au.com
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Post# 2641-7/13/2001-07:40 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
More Westy FL's
MESSAGE: I found this on a search engine. Dont know what country its from, looks like the midlle east. But there are more Westinghouse front loaders for you to share.
What surprises me is how much the washing machine market has shrunk, in a country as large a population as america, it would seem that there is enough slices of the pie to go around for everyone.
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Post# 2642-7/13/2001-07:40 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
More Westy FL's
MESSAGE: I found this on a search engine. Dont know what country its from, looks like the midlle east. But there are more Westinghouse front loaders for you to share.
What surprises me is how much the washing machine market has shrunk, in a country as large a population as america, it would seem that there is enough slices of the pie to go around for everyone.
LINK: www.whitewestinghouse.com
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Post# 2643-7/13/2001-07:41 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Old Laundry Room Get a New Resident (West Dryer)
MESSAGE: The Maytag shot was the waves during agitaton. I had skimmed the Westy dryer factory repair manual, but somehow failed to realize that it's completely temperature controlled and the dial doesn't move. I thought there was something wrong during testing when it shut off and turning the dial didn't do anything. I liked the end results when I became educated though. I had to restart it when it stopped the first time as I was too conservative in setting the control. I was afraid of a stream of fire shooting out of the heater duct - especially with the high cutoff temps. All went well though and the clothes were very nice in the end.
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Post# 2644-7/13/2001-07:43 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Who Wants Whirlmore - HE3t Training Info???
MESSAGE: I really enjoyed this Gansky!!
Cant wait to see some actuall pictures of one in the flesh!!
Hey everyone, is there a sears in Hawaii?? I want to take a holiday in the future, (not in the next six months) and would rather go to Hawaii than Fiji, so I can check out appliance stores!!!!
But with the Aussie Dollar I dont think I will be going on holiday.
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Post# 2645-7/13/2001-08:48 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention!!!!
MESSAGE: I'm a bit nervous too, but that feeling goes away easily when I think about meeting all you wonderful people. And for those who feel a little nervous too, think about the distance I have to travel! But I'm going to do this, no matter what!
Luigi
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Post# 2646-7/13/2001-09:48 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Old Laundry Room Gets a New Resident
MESSAGE: Looks great Greg! Love the shelves.
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Post# 2647-7/13/2001-09:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!! (Slapped at Convention)
MESSAGE: Now I know I'm going to have a good time!
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Post# 2648-7/13/2001-09:55 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westy FL's
MESSAGE: Arrrooohhh, your links are not working because your typing them manually into the link box. You need to either copy the entire address and paste it into the link box, or include http:// when you type www.addresswhatever.com.
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Post# 2649-7/13/2001-10:43 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Old Laundry Room Get a New Resident
MESSAGE: Thank you for the pictures, very nice Greg-O-wash-O-drama with that overflow rinse. Louis
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Post# 2650-7/13/2001-10:49 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: KA (over)Loaded
MESSAGE: Glenn, I immediately saved the picture of the toprack as background. I still have a film in my camera with pictures of how I loaded my AEG a while ago. I'll have to get that film devellopped. I don't think I loaded my AEG as full as you did your KA though. Louis
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Post# 2651-7/13/2001-11:01 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!!
MESSAGE: I'll have to start then. But after my fridge/freezer was repaired I bought two big boxes of chocolate icecream....
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Post# 2652-7/13/2001-11:16 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: More Westy FL's
MESSAGE: The country is Turkey.
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Post# 2653-7/13/2001-11:19 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!! (Slapped at Convention)
MESSAGE: Allright, calm down. We will slap you all LOL
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Post# 2654-7/13/2001-11:49 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Who Wants Whirlmore - HE3t Training Info???
MESSAGE: Yes my imagination has been there and back many times too, LOL, and the two brothers that did marry (there were 13 children total of my grandmother's siblings) neither had children.
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Post# 2655-7/13/2001-11:51 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!!
MESSAGE: Well that's great on all counts Tom!
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Post# 2656-7/13/2001-11:51 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!!
MESSAGE: Well that's great on all counts Tom!
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Post# 2657-7/13/2001-11:51 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!!
MESSAGE: Well that's great on all counts Tom!
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Post# 2658-7/13/2001-11:57 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention!!!!
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, we can assure you that you will have the best of experiences during your state visit.
QEOM
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Post# 2659-7/13/2001-12:46 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
Is "Frigmore" dead now?
MESSAGE: Is Kenmore going to stop selling the Frigidaire made front-loaders when the new Whirlmores come out?
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Post# 2660-7/13/2001-12:57 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Is "Frigmore" dead now?
MESSAGE: I don't have the impression those are going to be discontinued Jason. It appears in the manual that Greg scanned that the new machines, the Frigidaire style and the Maytags are going to be grouped and displayed together in the stores. The new machine sounds great, but affordability has been issue with these frontloaders since the outset and I think it would be very unwise for Sears to drop the only frontloader many people can afford, and it certainly sounds to be a good machine especially for the money.
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Post# 2661-7/13/2001-13:18 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Westinghouse L-8 Laundromat Needs Some Work
MESSAGE: In preparation for the convention I want to have the new Westy set I found last spring to be up and running perfectly. Initial tests that I did on the Laundromat proved the machine was working perfectly. But after running a few actual washloads, I found it had some real problems that needed fixing.
First the cold water solenoid on the water valve was not working, so I put on a brand new valve.
Second the outer-tub to pump hose was leaking, so I changed the hose.
Thirdly and most severe is a problem with the transmission. The original Westy’s transmission was called the “Speed-Changer”. It seemed to work fine, but I notice right away a problem that when the machine went from the first spin into the rinse fill/tumble cycle, the tub slowed down, but not all the way down to the proper wash/rinse tumble speed. This caused the clothes to stick to the side of the tub through the whole rinse cycle, and water shot out the overflow tube on top because the increased tumble speed threw the water around the entire diameter of the outer tub. The only way to get the tumble speed to go completely back down to the proper wash-tumble speed was to stop the machine for a second and let the tub stop completely, then start it again.
I check the Speed-Changer and the spin solenoid is releasing properly. There is an adjustment screw to adjust the pressure necessary by the solenoid bracket to engage spin, and I loosened the screw so LOTS of pressure was necessary to put the machine into spin, but it still did not slow down properly. So there is definitely a problem inside the transmission. Unfortunately Westinghouse Speed-Changers are sealed units and non-serviceable, except for an oil plug so you can change the oil. Thank goodness I found a brand new Speed-Changer a few years back and I will install it this weekend, as well as put brand new belts on the machine. Pictures to come!
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Post# 2662-7/13/2001-13:25 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Duplicate Posts
MESSAGE: Hey Appliancevillers, please be careful about pressing the "When done PUSH to Post" button. While the server that Classicappliances is on is faster (most of the time) than Yahoo, its still not perfect.
When you post a new or reply-to message, if you press the POST button and all you have is the hourglass ticking away, the request has been sent, it might take a minute or two if there are problems at the moment, but don't press POST again, unless you're sure that it didn't take. To be sure you can simply open another browser screen (leaving your post text so you can go back and repost just in case in the old browser) and navigate in the new brower to applianceville and check to see if your message is posted.
In the fall I will try and figure out some code to prevent duplicate posts.
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Post# 2663-7/13/2001-15:51 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westinghouse L-8 Laundromat Needs Some Work (Work n Play)
MESSAGE: Robert
What a man, you`d better tell us what brand of vitamins you`re on and make sure there`s ample supply at the convention!!!
I`m having trouble keeping up with the posts never mind you re-vamping the conference centre,preparing the exhibits, and now as a matter of fact changing trannys......
Good on you I say!!!
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 2664-7/13/2001-15:58 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
Kenmore 900 report
MESSAGE: Here are some interesting findings about the Kenmore 900.
1. It has a 3 solenoid water valve. Temperatures (automatically selected for the fabrics washed) are hot, warm, medium and cold.
2. Wisk tablets do not dissolve in the automatic detergent dispenser.
The other findings refer to the cotton / linens / white, cotton / linens / colored, and cold wash:
1. The detergent dispenser water solenoid is activated during the first 2 minutes (14) of the normal wash cycle. It is also activated during the rinse.
2. The bleach dispenser solenoid is activated when there are 4 minutes remaining in the wash cycle.
3. The spin between the wash and rinse (normal cycle) is 4 minutes.
4. If the second rinse option is selected, the fabric softener dispenser solenoid is not activated until the second rinse. If the second rinse option is not selected, the fabric softener solenoid is activated in the first (and only) rinse.
Steve 1-18
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Post# 2665-7/13/2001-16:46 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Kenmore 900 report
MESSAGE: Thanks Steve, that is very similar to my upper line direct drive Kenmore, only it sounds like yours releases the bleach earlier, which is better. I also like the idea of the recirculating detergent dispenser. On mine, the fill was diverted through the dispenser for 2 minutes at the very beginning, which defaulted to warm water regardless of how you had the temp set.
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Post# 2666-7/13/2001-18:35 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Old Laundry Room Gets a New Resident
MESSAGE: Hi Greg!
Your laundry room looks fantastic! Thanks for sharing it. Looking forward to meeting you, and the rest of the gang, at the convention!
Rich
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Post# 2667-7/13/2001-18:47 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention!!!! (airport-hotel transportation)
MESSAGE: WATCH IT TOM!!!! I'VE USED THOSE CARTS BEFORE. I MAY GET SO ANGRY I MAY JUST COMMANDEER ONE OF THOSE WRINKLED PEOPLE TO PUSH MY WHEELCHAIR!!!!!
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Post# 2668-7/13/2001-18:48 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westinghouse L-8 Laundromat Needs Some Work
MESSAGE: Yay!!! Can't wait to see it run and hear it hum!
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Post# 2669-7/13/2001-18:51 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention!!!!
MESSAGE: I'll be arrioving on AA flight 1154 at 1:26 p.m. on Friday. Departing Monday AA flight 1767 at 12:30. Bob
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Post# 2670-7/13/2001-18:52 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
Golittlesport, are you online still
MESSAGE: EOM
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Post# 2671-7/13/2001-18:54 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!! (Slapped at Convention)
MESSAGE: Does this mean all our members will be slapped? LOL
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Post# 2672-7/13/2001-19:13 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Kenmore 900 report
MESSAGE: Hmmm, very intriguing.
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Post# 2673-7/13/2001-19:14 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!! (Slapped at Convention)
MESSAGE: It has been some years since I received a proper slap . . .
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Post# 2674-7/13/2001-20:32 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Kenmore 900 report
MESSAGE: Thanks for the report - such a cool looking machine.
Is the detergent dispenser only activated if a 14 minute wash is selected and/or pre-wash followed with a full wash cycle?
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Post# 2675-7/13/2001-21:56 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Kenmore 900 report
MESSAGE: Greg, the answer, from my experience, is yes. On our 1970 model 800, the dispenser was only open for 2 minutes at the longest point of each of the wash cycles. Now, remember that "Martha Washington" Dryer Uni showed us 2 weeks ago? Well, my best friend from high school's mom had the matching washer for that dryer. Her dispenser, again opened only during longest wash point of each cycle, but flowed through for a total of 4 minutes. Our Kenmore didn't open the dispenser during the rinse, only during the wash. Incidentally, that 2 minute limit was really pushing its capabilities when using knit/delicate. With me adding 3/4 to 1 cup of all and Clorox 2, it was well over a minute before the majority of that amount of contents was flushed.
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Post# 2676-7/13/2001-22:20 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Kenmore 900 report (Appnut: Kenmore 800)
MESSAGE: Do you have any pictures of your old Kenmore 800 washer? I think I have a picture of my mom's somewhere but I don't know where it is.
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Post# 2677-7/13/2001-23:08 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Old Laundry Room Gets a New Resident
MESSAGE: Nice job on the laundry room Greg! The machines look great with the white walls.
Todd
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Post# 2678-7/13/2001-23:19 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westinghouse L-8 Laundromat Needs Some Work
MESSAGE: Go Robert Go!!! I can't wait to see the pictures of inside a later model. It would be cool to take the old tranny apart and "let the smoke out of it." If you want, send it to me and I'll do it.
Todd
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Post# 2679-7/13/2001-00:16 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
Major Oops By Our Internet Service Provider
MESSAGE: Unfortunately last night our Internet Service Provider really screwed up. They have over 1000 web sites on our server and the hard drive finally was filled up to capacity. They are suppose to watch for this kind of problem, but someone made a big mistake. There was a few hours last night that the system tried to write files to the server, but all it could create was a blank file. We lost our TOC page for posts 2600-2679, thank goodness the Archive file stayed in tact. I can rebuild the TOC page after we fill it up past post 2699, but for now I made a temporary page with just the links.
I also noticed that Appnut and Louis login file got corrupted, but everyone seems to be fine. Louis and Bob please email me (Unimatic1140@Yahoo.com) your password and I will fix your files so you can log in again.
I'm hoping I wont find anything else that this glitch caused, if anyone notices anything not working please post it to the club.
Hopefully, our ISP will never let this happen again.
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Post# 2680-7/14/2001-10:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALL MEMBERS NEED COUNT NOW!!!! (Slapped at Convention)
MESSAGE: No, just the naughty ones, LOL.
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Post# 2681-7/14/2001-16:15 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Major Oops By Our Internet Service Provider
MESSAGE: Robert, thanks so much for all your hard work to keep this baby on line. I hope there are no other problems.
Todd
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Post# 2682-7/14/2001-16:49 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Major Oops By Our Internet Service Provider
MESSAGE: Thank you Robert for fixing everything. You're a great webmaster. Louis
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Post# 2683-7/14/2001-16:52 ||| mooney6au (Sydney, Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Major Oops By Our Internet Service Provider (Thanks for your dedication)
MESSAGE: Robert,
We all really appreciate the commitment you put into maintaining this terrific website.
Greg
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Post# 2684-7/14/2001-17:33 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
Fun Sale Finds and I Made a New Friend
MESSAGE: We took of saleing today and made our usual rounds, a few sales and a couple of my favorite thrift stores. Since the "good" stuff is usually behind the thrift store in the trash pile (appliances they don't want) I saw a 59 RCA WP Dryer in white, a late 60's Frigidaire bottom freezer refrigerator (pretty damaged or it would be home) and Walter - my new friend. I have been looking out for this guy for a year now. He is the one who drives around to all the appliance stores, thrift stores used shops, etc. picking up the "throw aways." I told him what I was looking for and he said he sees older washers and dryers all the time and will definitely call me. I gave him my card (I printed these on the computer for washer hunting) and told him I will pay him way more than they are worth in scrap. Keep your fingers crossed guys - wouldn't it be nice to find vintage Speed Queens to hand out to everyone at the convention?
I bought a full box of 70's All detergent, two full bottles of 70's Downy softener, a handfull of new dish towels from the 40's & 50's and an aqua set of Pyrex bowls. Didn't see any noteworthy appliances though. Hope all are having a great weekend!
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Post# 2685-7/14/2001-18:35 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Fun Sale Finds and I Made a New Friend (Everything is crossed, even my eyes!)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg. Sounds like you had a great day. Go Walter! Everything is crossed, even my eyes!
Anyway, I love Pyrex Bowls too, did you get the set with the handles or the turquoise round ones?
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Post# 2686-7/14/2001-18:36 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westinghouse L-8 Laundromat Needs Some Work (One Happy Westy)
MESSAGE: We'll the Laundromat has done about 5 loads successfully now, the Speed Changer Transplant went very well...
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/westinghouse475/lst?&.dir=/L8+Restoration&.src=ph&.view=t&.last=1
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Post# 2687-7/14/2001-19:11 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: There were a few cool appliances to be seen today out there in Estate Saleland...
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/estatesale4/lst?&.dir=/Estate+Sale+Saturday+July+14+2001&.src=ph&.view=t&.last=1
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Post# 2688-7/14/2001-20:05 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Kenmore 900 report (Detergent dispenser)
MESSAGE: The dispenser operates the first 2 minutes of the normal wash whether or not the prewash is selected. It also operated the first 2 minutes of the P-P cycle and at the 10 minute and 6 minute marks of the delicate and washable woolens cycle. I haven't fully used the P-P and delicate cycles (just pushed the knob through).
Steve 1-18
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Post# 2689-7/14/2001-21:15 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Major Oops By Our Internet Service Provider (The Club)
MESSAGE: Robert Thank you - this club is like a life line
Peter
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Post# 2690-7/14/2001-21:16 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
A trip to a used appliance store (sad)
MESSAGE: I've always passed up this cool little used appliance shop every day where I'd always see old washers sitting outside. Today I finally I decided to go in a take a look. Apparently, most of the old washers are in the garage next door. I didn't go in there. Didn't think I could. Anyway, in their little "showroom" they had your typical used washers and dryers... The Big 3 (Whp/Ken, Maytag, GE). All the Kenmores were direct drives except for one belt-drive Whirlpool. They did have a D/D Lady K with almond color digital control panel (if only it was a belt). The rest were blah. I did see a very strange creature. A Whirlpool control panel with a Kenmore's body. I guess the bodies are interchangable. The GE was a 80s filter-flo. I did ask the man who worked there if they ever come across the older units (50-60s Kenmore, Frigidaire, etc..) He says every now and then they do, but they go in the (I can't say it because it's awful). He said to check with him every now and then (?) and if he has a real old machine, he'll let me have it (the machine that is). He said "nobody collects washers. They just throw them away". What a sad statement to make.
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Post# 2691-7/14/2001-21:29 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (Estate Sale)
MESSAGE: Very interesting - I love that Hotpoint wall oven & the Hamilton dryer. Their is a simular TL Kenmore dishwasher at the appliance museum in Maryland.
Peter
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Post# 2692-7/14/2001-21:53 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Fun Sale Finds and I Made a New Friend
MESSAGE: Ha ha! Greg, I think vintage washers would make wonderful convention favors! You go!
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Post# 2693-7/14/2001-22:13 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
The "Dennis" cartoon
MESSAGE: Looks vaguely like a Whirlpool set.
LINK: http://users.wcnet.net/dadoes/dennis-dryer.jpg
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Post# 2694-7/14/2001-23:48 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Fun Sale Finds and I Made a New Friend (Everything is crossed, even my eyes!)
MESSAGE: I brought my camera with me, but when I thought of it at the first sale, I convinced myself that I'd forgotten it - as I do most weeks. There wasn't much of anything to take a picture of anyway and I don't think Walter would have been too keen on my snapping his picture right off the bat. When he comes up with the WCI/DCI 58 set (in charcoal gray) I'll get his picture then!
I got the round mixing bowls, but only the smaller three were there. I have a large bowl in yellow that's in beautiful shape, but will keep looking for it in turquoise too. I came home and got rid of all the oddballs in the bowl cabinet and now have all vintage/antique ones - and the best part is that they'll last forever because I don't ever cook!
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Post# 2695-7/14/2001-23:57 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: You did see some neat things today! I love that LK dishwasher and the Norge Range was cool. Norge is one brand that I rarely see around here - even refrigerators. Thanks for the pics and the time and work needed for posting them - everyone appreciates it!
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Post# 2696-7/14/2001-00:15 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Kenmore 900 report (Appnut: Kenmore 800)
MESSAGE: No Jason, the brochures got thrown out a long time ago. Someday when members scan in their Sears catalog washers, I'll see it and send out a big warning signal just for you that it's there. Ours sounded like quite a bit more deluxe than your Mom's.
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Post# 2697-7/14/2001-00:19 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Fun Sale Finds and I Made a New Friend
MESSAGE: Greg, I personally would still want a Frigidaire. Nothing personal about the SQs, I would just prefer a frigidaire.
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Post# 2698-7/14/2001-00:35 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Fun Sale Finds and I Made a New Friend
MESSAGE: I've been working on the '54 SQ washer & dryer this weekend as the new timer is coming Monday or Tuesday, so I have them on the brain now. I have a whole list of washers that Walter could come up with and at the top are several Frigidaires too!
I got the spin tub removed and the new boot on, other than some soap scum and hard water, this machine is in beautiful shape - can't wait to get it running, just need an extra day every week!
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Post# 2699-7/14/2001-01:12 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westinghouse L-8 Laundromat Needs Some Work (One Happy Westy)
MESSAGE: Wonderful job Robert. The L-8 really looks like new, what a machine.
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Post# 2700-7/14/2001-01:14 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westinghouse L-8 Laundromat Needs Some Work (One Happy Westy)
MESSAGE: It looks great Robert! Nice little tranny swap. There's nothing like the hum of a Westy FL. Your floor looks good in the background too.
Todd
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Post# 2701-7/14/2001-01:19 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Wow, that Lady Kenmore is really something. Did you guys purchase anything?
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Post# 2702-7/14/2001-01:23 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: The "Dennis" cartoon
MESSAGE: Yessss!!! Thank you Glenn!
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Post# 2703-7/14/2001-01:24 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Fun Sale Finds and I Made a New Friend (Everything is crossed, even my eyes!)
MESSAGE: You never cook????
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Post# 2704-7/15/2001-05:12 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Nope, didn't buy a thing Louis. I would have considered the Lady Kenmore, but the top rack was missing. It was just me, myself and I saleing yesterday as I didn't hear from Scott or Gary.
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Post# 2705-7/15/2001-05:42 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westinghouse L-8 Laundromat Needs Some Work (One Happy Westy)
MESSAGE: Thanks Todd, the floor is all done, in a few weeks when the basement is all cleaned up, I'll take some fresh pictures.
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Post# 2706-7/15/2001-07:42 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westinghouse L-8 Laundromat Needs Some Work (One Happy Westy)
MESSAGE: The westy looks fabulous! I have a question. The pump that is on there, how long did westy imploy that pump? That is the pump with the spingy shaft thingy on it?
SD
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Post# 2707-7/15/2001-09:07 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Fun Sale Finds and I Made a New Friend (Everything is crossed, even my eyes!)
MESSAGE: Lately, it's pretty rare that I do more than the basics. A little baking now and then, but in the winter months I do more "home cooking." I enjoy it, but just don't have enough hours in the day.
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Post# 2708-7/15/2001-11:26 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT:
Thanks Robert
MESSAGE: A big Thanks Robert for all that you do to keep this site up and running. It means alot to many. The Westy looks great, it is a favorite of mine. Looking forward to the convention.
Terry
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Post# 2709-7/15/2001-12:45 ||| rapidry1000 (San Francisco)
SUBJECT:
RE: Major Oops By Our Internet Service Provider (Great work Robert!)
MESSAGE: Many thanks for all your work dealing with unforseen problems that may pop up with the site. Again great pictures on your restoration of the Westinghouse laundromat. Are the machines made in the 70's similar internally to this machine? I've got a space mate washer from the 70's that is good condition but is rusted around the window.
All the excitement of the convention is making me envious of not being able to attend. Looking forward to hear all about it.
Rapidry1000
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Post# 2710-7/15/2001-13:50 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
Room Booked
MESSAGE: A few minutes ago. I didn't quite catch if the reservation girlie said she only had one room left (non-smoking, with two double beds), or if that's just what she came up with for me out what was available.
I told her Group Code CLA, she quoted $79 per night, and gave me a confirmation number beginning with a 6, so I guess I'm all set.
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Post# 2711-7/15/2001-14:44 ||| jakins (Kissimmee, Fl.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (If you ever find another one)
MESSAGE: Hi Uni. If you ever find anothe Lady Kenmore like thit one. Let me know I have been looking for that model for some time now. I had one and kick myself for selling it all the time.
She is a 1960 model. with what they called the speedodometer dile. The tub and inside lid should have been in the color they called persimmon.The racks were also tis color. Mine did a great job. Keep up the good work on the sight
John
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Post# 2712-7/15/2001-14:54 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (Oh behave!)
MESSAGE: Avocado baby YEAH!
You haven't lived in the 70s unless you had an Avocado Maytag set. I should put that in my "dream appliances" section. A pair of avocado Maytags is just too cool.
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Post# 2713-7/15/2001-16:25 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (Shag-a-delic 70's)
MESSAGE: You've got that right! We had all harvest gold appliances, with orange Formica counter tops, white with orange and yellow flowered Formica backsplashes and long dark orange/red shag carpet. We even had a rake for the shag baby! (That could warp a fragile little mind!)
Todd
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Post# 2714-7/15/2001-18:09 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (Smashing baby!)
MESSAGE: Our 60s Kenmores were white but we had the usual brown paneling, fake bricks for a wall covering in the kitchen. Our stove and oven were (and still are) that groovy maroon color (don't know the actual name). We never had shag carpet though. We did have a giant console stereo in the living room with automatic record changer and 8 track player (Groovy).
Those were the days.
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Post# 2715-7/15/2001-19:40 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (Shag-a-delic 70's)
MESSAGE: The house I grew up in, the kitchen had turquoise built-ins (including range hood and porcelain sink -- but the fridge was white) and orange Formica. We added carpet in the 1970's, and it was . . . orange/red shag in the family room and brown/gold in the bedrooms. Shag rake, been there, done that.
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Post# 2716-7/15/2001-20:24 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT:
I want you to meet............
MESSAGE: Carmine Calypso!!!
Somehow she found her way into my van Saturday afternoon in the pouring rain. The poor girl. I felt so sorry for her I figured I should bring her home and let her dry off.
I did 4 loads of laundry and everything went well. This works better than my Catalyst and Kenmore Front Loader. did!! The only complaint I have is that there was leftover Brownie fuzz in the sheets when I put them in the dryer. Of course the dryer took the fuzz off but if you line dry I don't think this machine would work too good.
Will have better picts and maybe even a movie after I do something with the lid switch.
LINK: http://web.tampabay.rr.com/jasonspages/
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Post# 2717-7/15/2001-20:32 ||| Jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: I want you to meet............ (Cool)
MESSAGE: I'd love to see video of the Calypso in action. Does it have high speed spin?
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Post# 2718-7/15/2001-20:44 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: I want you to meet............ (Carmine)
MESSAGE: Looks real cool I would love to see a live video
Best of luck
Peter
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Post# 2719-7/15/2001-21:07 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT:
RE: I want you to meet............ (Cool)
MESSAGE: 800 RPM's
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Post# 2720-7/15/2001-21:50 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: I want you to meet............
MESSAGE: Hi Sweetie, what fun to have someone I actually know have one of these things. Keep us up to date on your findings. Hope we will have a chance to talk this week. I have a feeling you may be one of the first in the group to own Henrietta Hettie later this year too. ;-)
QEOM
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Post# 2721-7/15/2001-22:19 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: I want you to meet............
MESSAGE: That is excellent!! I loved your pictures and cant wait to see the video! Even with you haveing to trip the switch, your picutres were much better thatn any on the whirlpool and kenmore sites.
Thanx again.
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Post# 2722-7/15/2001-22:21 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: I want you to meet............ (Henrietta Hettie)
MESSAGE: Scott, instead of Henrietta Hettie, how about Hettie Lamarr?(Yeah baby!)
Or do you have a thing for assimiles?
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Post# 2723-7/15/2001-22:23 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Thanks Robert
MESSAGE: Id like to second those comments Uni!
The westy was wonderful!
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Post# 2724-7/15/2001-22:32 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
Westy Front loaders again
MESSAGE: Hi Everyone. I have tried again to post the westinghouse australian website. Let me know if it works.
LINK: http://www.westinghouse.au.com/
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Post# 2725-7/15/2001-23:14 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: I want you to meet............
MESSAGE: How very kind and giving of you to take a poor defenseless washer under your wing! I will be interested to hear updates on your experience with Carmine over the coming washdays. Enjoy the new toy!
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Post# 2726-7/15/2001-23:19 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT:
RE: I want you to meet............
MESSAGE: AAWWW Thanks!! It was no trouble at all. If I decide I am going to keep her for a while I will get the matching dryer too.
OH, there is far less lint in the dryer filter too. A lot less than what was caught when I had the front loader too.
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Post# 2727-7/15/2001-23:44 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: I want you to meet............
MESSAGE: Well Jason, I'm proud you became the foster parent of Carmine. I do want to know the intense specifics. How long does it neutral drain. How long is the spin between wash & rinse & is there a spray rinse during it. Obviously this is the 400 rpm spin. How many rinse & spins are there before the final spin at 800 rpm. How long is the catalyst cleaning action before it starts the calypso wash motion nutating. I gotta admit, the proportion of the 1 cup of bleach for the whitest whites cycle, sure makes me wonder about fabric eating even more.
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Post# 2728-7/15/2001-23:47 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT:
RE: I want you to meet............
MESSAGE: I'll get all that for you, but I don't think I will ever use a full cup of bleach in this machine. I simply can not see needing that much with such little water. Maybe 1/2 a cup but no more.
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Post# 2729-7/16/2001-03:20 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: I want you to meet............
MESSAGE: Your Majesty,
We are impressed with the pictures you took. We would appreciate being informed about the Carmine's preformances. We hope your Royal arm has recovered from keeping the lid switch pressed.
QLOTOC
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Post# 2730-7/16/2001-06:28 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Is "Frigmore" dead now?
MESSAGE: Jason1, I doubt it. The sales training literature that Greg posted has it listed. It is smaller and cheaper and will fill a front loading niche. Tom
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Post# 2731-7/16/2001-06:34 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Kenmore 900 report
MESSAGE: Steve, long ago, instructions for Salvo and Vim as well as the Kenmore Combo said to place the tablets in the tub with the clothes and not in the dispenser. I wonder why with more machines having dispensers, the manufacturers don't say that now on the detergent boxes. Tom
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Post# 2732-7/16/2001-06:41 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention!!!! (Holiday Inn Check In Time)
MESSAGE: Bob and all, The motel told me that check in time is 3 PM, so plan on having something to do between arrival time and check in time. Current plans do not have me in town at your arrival time, but we will try to work out something. Tom
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Post# 2733-7/16/2001-06:55 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Robert, thansk for the great pics. Wish you had popped the top of the KM DW to give us a glance inside. I'm betting it had aqua racks and was still the impeller wash system. Was the last dryer sort of beige, the doe skin color? It looked very much liked faded green in the shot. Was it the lighting or was it faded avocado? Thanks again, Tom
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Post# 2734-7/16/2001-07:03 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: The "Dennis" cartoon
MESSAGE: Thank you Glenn, for scanning it in for all of us. The dryer door looks like a Kenmore Combo. Does anyone remember the 70s TV show Family with Sada Thompson playing the piano at the start and all the photographs on top of it? It was set in San Francisco and they lived in a big old house with a very old huge gas range in the kitchen, but the laundry alcove was really neat with, for at least a couple of seasons, a Frigidaire Custom Imperial Rapid Dry and a Lady Kenmore Combo. Tom
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Post# 2735-7/16/2001-07:06 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Fun Sale Finds and I Made a New Friend (Everything is crossed, even my eyes!)
MESSAGE: Greg, Glad you won't be using the bowls because the turquoise ones will fade in the DW. Actually all the other colors will fade also which is why it is rare to find them in good shape. Tom
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Post# 2736-7/16/2001-07:11 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Fun Sale Finds and I Made a New Friend (Everything is crossed, even my eyes!)
MESSAGE: I had a medium bowl in pink that I got from who-knows-where that the paint is flaking off from being in the dishwasher. I hand washed the new set and gently placed them in the cabinet. I have a couple of plastic Texas Ware bowls that work well with the dishwasher, should the need arise.
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Post# 2737-7/16/2001-07:13 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (Smashing baby!)
MESSAGE: Jason1, maroon color appliances? Really? What brand? Tom
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Post# 2738-7/16/2001-07:15 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Fun Sale Finds and I Made a New Friend (Everything is crossed, even my eyes!)
MESSAGE: Do you think it was the caustic detergents of days gone by, or the high temps? I wonder if some of the new enzyme, chlorine-free detergents would be a little easier on some of the painted finishes. Greg
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Post# 2739-7/16/2001-07:19 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Did WP have the Mocha Brown color. I know GE/HP had a color like that too, but it was a more solid color instead of the lighter/darker toned as on the dryer. I had a client with this color on a GE kitchen w/ a Hotpoint fridge to match, their house was built in the mid 60's. I'll look in the '68 WP book tonight for the color choices available - I can only remember the washer/dryer with the paneling on the front right now!
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Post# 2740-7/16/2001-07:26 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: I want you to meet............
MESSAGE: Thank you Jason for the great pics. Please thank Carl for the use of his arm and fingers to make the thing work. Hope you enjoy this machine. You should have told everyone how you stopped by the Sears clearance center on the way back home from the airport to shop for a washer and then drove back to Orlando on Saturday during a rain storm that gave the Orlando area 5.28 inches of rain. Talk about "by washers possessed!" Tom
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Post# 2741-7/16/2001-07:40 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Fun Sale Finds and I Made a New Friend (Everything is crossed, even my eyes!)
MESSAGE: Greg, the detergents are still caustic. I just don't think that the Pyrex people took DW detergents into consideration when they made the bowls or figured they were glass and would break before they faded badly. I found mine in an old hardware store shortly after moving up here, before I had a DW. Once I started washing them in it, it did not take long to see how it would ruin them, so they became art instead of utensils and are saved along with the hundreds of other sets acquired by collector queens. Tom
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Post# 2742-7/16/2001-07:43 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Greg, Kenmore had the color and even offered the LK Combo in doe skin. John has a very deluxe early 60s WP dryer in doe skin. Tom
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Post# 2743-7/16/2001-08:01 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT:
RE: I want you to meet............ (Cycles)
MESSAGE: Back in April Robert posted the info on the Whirlpool Calypso. Click the link and you can see what goes on in each cycle.
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/kenmore525/lst?&.dir=/Whirlpool+Calypso+Education+Manual&.src=ph&.view=t&start=1&.rand=41314751460
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Post# 2744-7/16/2001-08:55 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westinghouse L-8 Laundromat Needs Some Work (Westinghouse Springy Pump)
MESSAGE: Hi Scott, yes that is the pump with the springy shaft on it. I think they used that pump all the way through the three-belt models.
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Post# 2745-7/16/2001-08:56 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Major Oops By Our Internet Service Provider (Great work Robert!)
MESSAGE: Hi James, no the the 1950's Westy Laundomats were very different than the 1970's models. Only similiaries were that they had the same pump and they were both front loaders.
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Post# 2746-7/16/2001-08:57 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Room Booked
MESSAGE: I hope the fact that they only had one room left isn't a problem. Hopefully everyone as book their rooms now.
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Post# 2747-7/16/2001-09:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: I want you to meet............
MESSAGE: Wow, congrats Jason. "Somehow she found her way into your van???". How exactly did you find her? Great pictures, I can't wait to see the video.
Are you going to put in a toggle switch to jump the lid switch? You can't simply just electrically jump the Calypso lid switch because the machine monitors if the lid was opened after the wash cycle to remove the clothes. You could put a toggle switch on the back and switch it between open and closed though.
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Post# 2748-7/16/2001-09:03 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: I want you to meet............ (Cycles)
MESSAGE: Thanks, Jason. By the time the WP sales dinner rolled around, I had sent this to Robert. They tried to say at the dinner that the delicate and handwash nutated at 250 npm, but we had to tell them that at the service training we were told it spun at 60 rpm for those cycles. The sales training lit was wrong. Thanks for the opportunity to see the table in print once again. Tom
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Post# 2749-7/16/2001-09:04 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westy Front loaders again
MESSAGE: Works perfectly arrrooohhh, thanks.
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Post# 2750-7/16/2001-09:04 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westinghouse L-8 Laundromat Needs Some Work (Westinghouse Springy Pump)
MESSAGE: Robert is right again about the WH pump with the springy drive. Tom
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Post# 2751-7/16/2001-09:06 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: I want you to meet............
MESSAGE: Robert, we found out that even the Catalyst monitors the lid switch that way. Jason is already planning for bypass surgery. Tom
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Post# 2752-7/16/2001-09:07 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention!!!! (no worries here)
MESSAGE: Tom, if Bob is not getting in until 1:26pm, by the time he gets his luggage and gets to the hotel, it will be after 2:30 and usually hotels I found are sort of flexible with that check in time, especially if it's less than an hour away.
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Post# 2753-7/16/2001-09:09 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: I didn't photograph the inside of the Lady Kenmore DW, because the top rack was missing and it was filled with clothes. Interior and bottom rack was pink.
YES, it was Doe Skin, I couldn't remember the name of that color!
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Post# 2754-7/16/2001-09:11 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Fun Sale Finds and I Made a New Friend (Everything is crossed, even my eyes!)
MESSAGE: Nope, the new detergents are just as bad. I bought a set of the 4-color bowls about 7 years ago. They were in great shape then, but I didn't realize that putting them in the DW would take the paint off. 7 years later the paint on the bowls is extremely faded and chipping, so I use this set as my everyday set. The other sets I have I only handwash.
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Post# 2755-7/16/2001-11:14 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention!!!! (Holiday Inn Check In Time)
MESSAGE: As all pertinent parties are aware, all systems are "go" with these particular first day logistics.
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Post# 2756-7/16/2001-11:18 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: The "Dennis" cartoon
MESSAGE: The "Dennis" tv show had one of the big Duomatics, just like Hazel did. "Sada" at one point anyway had a 1960 Frigidaire just like mine, but she must have had a later model in other seasons too. I remember when I first saw the machine I have, I was trying to figure out where I had seen it before, as I could never make out what hers was, being we never had a closeup shot and I was not familiar at the time with older Frigidaires. I liked that show.
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Post# 2757-7/16/2001-11:19 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (Smashing baby!)
MESSAGE: hmmm.....Frigidaire poppy perhaps? I will be curious as to what Jason says!
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Post# 2758-7/16/2001-11:23 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Fun Sale Finds and I Made a New Friend (Everything is crossed, even my eyes!)
MESSAGE: My mom has had a set of those colored bowls all her married life and has always washed them in the machine with no problems. I wonder if later versions perhaps used different glazing methods, or if she doesn't use hers enough to make a difference or who knows what. I know I would never put my colored mixmaster bowls in one if I used them, which I don't anyway.
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Post# 2759-7/16/2001-11:25 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: There was also a coppertone color that was not as dark as most of them, but the dryer in Robert's picture looks even lighter than that, almost more like almond, but that dryer of course long predates almond.
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Post# 2760-7/16/2001-11:26 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: The "Dennis" cartoon
MESSAGE: Scott, do you remember all the various vintage appliances on Momma's Family? The GE top load portable DW & the Kenmore laundry appliances? Then there was that older grandson. Tom
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Post# 2761-7/16/2001-11:26 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Interesting, another "new" color I never knew about!
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Post# 2762-7/16/2001-11:33 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: The "Dennis" cartoon
MESSAGE: ...I was a definitely a bit fixated on "Bubba" during that show, but I do remember the appliances, particularly the pink Kelvinator bottom-freezer refrigerator!
My friend Bill used to work for the phone company in California and met, among many other celebrities, Vicki, whilst she was in production with that show. He had a lot of fun with her and she even insisted on trying a dress she had just found to wear on the show to get his opinion.
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Post# 2763-7/16/2001-11:39 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: The "Dennis" cartoon
MESSAGE: Yes, Tom, I vividly remember that show AND those specific appliances Always made my day to watch it so I could catch a glimpse of the laundry area.
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Post# 2764-7/16/2001-11:40 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Fun Sale Finds and I Made a New Friend (Everything is crossed, even my eyes!)
MESSAGE: Greg, would you kindly explain what Texas Ware plastic bowls are? I don't think we have them here in my neck of the woods.
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Post# 2765-7/16/2001-11:43 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Fun Sale Finds and I Made a New Friend (Everything is crossed, even my eyes!)
MESSAGE: I just chatted with my mom, and the bowls I'm thinking of are not the same ones from all these years. I found out she has two other sets she's picked up in various places that she rarely uses, except for things like potato salad to be served or something like that and does not machine wash them. The others are a bit more "worn" and she uses those for more utilitarian purposes and machine washes them.
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Post# 2766-7/16/2001-11:48 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention!!!! (no worries here)
MESSAGE: I'm sorry that the early arrival time is causing such a perceived problem, but I just don't want to miss a minute of the weekend!!!!
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Post# 2767-7/16/2001-11:55 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Fun Sale Finds and I Made a New Friend (Everything is crossed, even my eyes!)
MESSAGE: Well, my 70s avocado green pyrex bowls have weathered dishwashers since they were put into service after purchase, including PotSrubber cycles since 1984 and they seem to not have faded in the least.
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Post# 2768-7/16/2001-11:57 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: The "Dennis" cartoon
MESSAGE: And don't forget that pink bottom-freezer fridge either on Mommas Family, or was it white? No, I think it was pink--you Know, my least favorite color
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Post# 2769-7/16/2001-12:19 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (Actually)
MESSAGE: I always thought it was maroon but my mom says it's more like a dark brown color. Someone on here said "mocha brown" and maybe that's it. The stove and over are 1965 Modern Maid gas cooktop and gas oven. Still working today :-).
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Post# 2770-7/16/2001-12:19 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Fun Sale Finds and I Made a New Friend (Everything is crossed, even my eyes!)
MESSAGE: Bob, Texas Ware is a brand of Melmac plastic. The Texas Ware mixing bowls I have seen are kind of a gray/brown background with dots and splashes of other colors on them. They are not made for beauty, at least I hope not, but the are very functional and almost indestructable. Even though they are made in large sizes, they are relatively light, and strong. Tom
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Post# 2771-7/16/2001-12:20 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (Actually)
MESSAGE: Jason1, more likely it's coppertone. Tom
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Post# 2772-7/16/2001-13:20 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention!!!! (no worries here)
MESSAGE: No need to appologize Bob, you're not getting in early at all actually. But you'll be all rested from your trip and already for the 6pm wash-in!
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Post# 2773-7/16/2001-16:46 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
Dryer Fight!
MESSAGE: Follow the link. Beware of pop-up ads.
LINK: http://www.debsfunpages.com/funpic299.htm
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Post# 2774-7/16/2001-18:21 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (I'll take some pics)
MESSAGE: I'll take some pics of it when I go over there this weekend.
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Post# 2775-7/16/2001-18:31 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
Novice question - hacking the lid switch
MESSAGE: What's the easiest way to jimmy the lid switch on a D/D whirlpool so I can lift the lid while spinning? Also, DADDoes, how did you fix your F&P? The switch is different on those? I saw a demo F&P with a plexiglass window in the lid. I'm going to beg and plead with the appliance store man to sell it to me. If I can't, I'll need to be able to show off that 1000rpm to my neighbors.
Thanks!
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Post# 2776-7/16/2001-18:38 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Novice question - hacking the lid switch
MESSAGE: The F&P lid switch is magnetic. The switch is located on the right side, about five inches from the front. The magnet that triggers it is embedded in the lid. Examine the lid, and you can see where it is. Place a small magnet on the edge of the top at that location, and voila! I'll post pics when I get a chance.
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Post# 2777-7/16/2001-21:21 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westinghouse L-8 Laundromat Needs Some Work (Robert-Water Level On L-8???)
MESSAGE: Oh Robert,, on picture number 9 the rinse water level seems alittle high? Did you play around with the water level switch again? I know how you like the splashing against the window but my L-8 doesn't fill NEARLY that high on RINSE.
That cabinet looks mint, it still has aglow to it! Nice Job I can't wait to throw some clothes in there!
jet
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Post# 2778-7/16/2001-21:25 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
Miss Jet Cone?
MESSAGE: Miss Jet:would you post your tee size again as I can;t find it since the Server Crash. thanks see you at the convention
jetcone
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Post# 2779-7/16/2001-21:36 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: I want you to meet............ (Where in the World??)
MESSAGE: Jason where in the world did that Calypso fall into your Van???? DOn't tell me you found it on the side of the road??
Was it a scratch and dent from some famous appliance nuts in the DC area perhaps??
It looks like it really is turning over the clothes.
Nice arm shot by the way, it looks like you really have built up your arms with those lid switch exercises! Believe me I know, lid switch exercises can be taxing!
Jetcone
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Post# 2780-7/16/2001-21:47 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: I want you to meet............ (Where in the World??)
MESSAGE: Jet, I'm so glad you made mention of pictures! When I saw Jason's post I completely missed the fact that he posted pictures!
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Post# 2781-7/16/2001-21:50 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: I want you to meet............
MESSAGE: Hi Sweetie, when I read your post yesterday I completely missed your pictures I was more engrossed in the description. Looks like a very nice machine! How do you feel about the rinsing; I know rinsing can be kind of a sticking point with you.
QEOM
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Post# 2782-7/16/2001-21:55 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
August Consumers Washer Report
MESSAGE: I got the issue today - Calypso Kenmore / Whirlmore rated tops.
With FL the Neptune (trash) was tops - Than Kenmore / Fridgemore series came in next. (Of course I think it should have been the opposite) I hope next time the new Whirlmore will be tops.
Have a good evening everyone.
Peter
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Post# 2783-7/16/2001-21:57 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report
MESSAGE: That's interesting Peter, usually the Frigidaire out-rates the Neptune. I wonder what was different this time. The upcoming new Kenmore is one thing, but as far as those two I would still go with the Frigidaire. I'm not that impressed with the Maytag, especially for costing that much more than the Frigidaire. I'd rather have a Miele if I'm going to spend $1400.
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Post# 2784-7/16/2001-22:04 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report (FL comparison)
MESSAGE: Scott I am hoping the the Whirlpool FL will out run them all.
When Neptune puts in a window and makes a under counter model - than I think it may be worth while. So far the Frigmore is the best. I wish the Amana would bring back their short lived model.
Peter
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Post# 2785-7/16/2001-22:04 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report (How about)
MESSAGE: How did Fisher & Paykel do? I'm sure they beat out most of the Top Loaders except the Calypso's.
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Post# 2786-7/16/2001-22:10 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report (Fisher / Paykel)
MESSAGE: Actually it came in 3rd - I am surprise - I suppose because it operates with a spray rinse so it is very energy eff.
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Post# 2787-7/16/2001-22:14 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report (WOOHOO!)
MESSAGE: Thinking of an evil plan to sabotage my Whirlpool so I can buy a F/P.
Frigmore's are great but you have to use HE soap and the opening is too small IMHO. Besides, in my house, the washer goes on the right and my GE dryer (with its HUGE door that swings right) will make it difficult for me to xfer clothes from the washer to the dryer.
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Post# 2788-7/16/2001-22:16 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report (4th)
MESSAGE: The Amana TL came in 4th
they rated the best buy a Maytag Performa for $370
but the Frigmore FL was efficent & best buy for a FL at $700
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Post# 2789-7/16/2001-22:16 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT:
RE: I want you to meet............ (Where in the World??)
MESSAGE: I stopped at Sears on the way home from the airport and priced a few of the machines. Saturday I went back in the pouring rain and bumper to bumper traffc to get her.
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Post# 2790-7/16/2001-22:18 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report (HE Soap)
MESSAGE: I have never used HE soap & I have a Equator for 2 1/2 years
I use Arm&Hammer and works great. HE is a scam!!
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Post# 2791-7/16/2001-22:20 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report (CR best buy)
MESSAGE: So, it looks like for the sub $1000 market, the Frigmore and F/P came out great! That's good news. I still can't decide. Frigmore or F/P? Heads=Frigmore, Tails=F/P.
Frigmore sounds better than Kenidaire.
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Post# 2792-7/16/2001-22:20 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
Factory Fresh '49 Arrives- Finally!
MESSAGE: Hi everyone:
look what arrived at my house on July 10, 1949....
jetcone
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/jetcone/lst?.dir=/Factory+Fresh+%2749&.view=t
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Post# 2793-7/16/2001-22:24 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report (Amana Machine back)
MESSAGE: Peter the Amana machine is being made in an improved version by Speed QUeen now.Its the same machine with much better electrics than Amana could cough up. It retails around $1,000.
jet
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Post# 2794-7/16/2001-22:27 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Factory Fresh '49 Arrives- Finally! (Cool)
MESSAGE: Jon - I love this 47 - is it in good condition?
Peter
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Post# 2795-7/16/2001-22:27 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Factory Fresh '49 Arrives- Finally! (Gasp!)
MESSAGE: Truly a marvel of modern engineering - this newfangled machine will free you of "blue Mondays" forever and give you more time for the garden club!
Maybe you'll be asked to give personal testimonials to your neighbors for a share of the sales commissions - you should ask your dealer......
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Post# 2796-7/16/2001-22:29 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
My dad
MESSAGE: My dad used to work for Speed Queen in the 60s. He remembers the stainless tubs. He also fixed the Frigidaires too. Oh the classics he must've seen in those days. In fact, I showed him Uni's Frigidaire movies and he said "I remember that".
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Post# 2797-7/16/2001-22:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report (Amana is now owned by Maytag)
MESSAGE: I would think that unless there is some super-terrific that Amana had the rights to when aquired by Maytag, you will probably only see Neptune style F/L'ers in the Amana line.
Who owns Speed Queen now?
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Post# 2798-7/16/2001-22:32 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report (Amana Machine back)
MESSAGE: Hi Jet! Hasn't Speed Queen discontinued retail offerings and making only coinops now, or is that not correct?
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Post# 2799-7/16/2001-22:45 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Factory Fresh '49 Arrives- Finally! (Rushing back to dealer!)
MESSAGE: Greg I will call my dealer tomorrow! I will testify to the value of "heaping suds"! To Live water Action!
jet
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Post# 2800-7/16/2001-22:50 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report (Yes & No Scott and Gansky)
MESSAGE: I believe SQ the commercial division is still owned by Raytheon but I am not sure. I was told they sold off the retail end. The new Speed Queen is called the "Horizon" washer and first came out in the coin-op model ( which I have in my tenants apt) but this year they introduced a home model.I saw it at the Home Show here , my commercial dealer carries it.
I'll take some pix of her when my tenants go to work.
jet
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Post# 2801-7/16/2001-23:25 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report
MESSAGE: Boy, howdy! Isn't that report a crock? As I recall, they boasted that this is the most extensive and detailed washer report they've done in some long time. WHERE ARE THE DETAILS????
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Post# 2802-7/16/2001-00:28 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT:
RE: I want you to meet............
MESSAGE: The rinsing is very, very good in this machine. I have the front panel off so I can watch the rinse water through the outer tub and by the second rinse all of the suds and dirty water are gone. By this time it still has 2 more rinses to go and that is without the optional extra rinse. I bought Tide HE and for the first time I have in a long time I have not broken out in a rash from the detergent. The only other detergents that I was able to use were Wisk HE and Gain.
Funny thing is the Wisk HE Liquid is rated better than the Tide HE Liquid. Well that is what CR says.
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Post# 2803-7/17/2001-04:20 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report (Amana Machine back)
MESSAGE: I have seen this version of the new SQ produced Amana FL here, albeit marketed under the name of Huebsch. Very impressive, even has an internal heater!
Eddy
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Post# 2804-7/17/2001-04:23 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Factory Fresh '49 Arrives- Finally!
MESSAGE: How dare you flaunt that coveted machine in front of a drooling audience like us! ;-)
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Post# 2805-7/17/2001-04:25 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westinghouse L-8 Laundromat Needs Some Work (Westinghouse Springy Pump)
MESSAGE: The reason I ask is because we have one on the shelf at work and its been there for awhile and collected quite a bit of dust.
SD
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Post# 2806-7/17/2001-04:34 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report
MESSAGE: Hey now! I love my Maytags.
SD
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Post# 2807-7/17/2001-05:22 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Factory Fresh '49 Arrives- Finally! (Rushing back to dealer!)
MESSAGE: Jon,
I notice that the Tower Top has been replaced. Does it need a new home??? -- Hint Hint....
Steve 1-18
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Post# 2808-7/17/2001-05:44 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westinghouse L-8 Laundromat Needs Some Work (Springy Pump)
MESSAGE: HI Scott:
They made the later pumps in white nylon but they fit the L-8. I had to put a new pump in my L8 and it works perfectly. Does your pump at work have the dark cover? Is it for sale if it does so I can make my L8 more original?
jon
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Post# 2809-7/17/2001-05:46 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report (Thanks you Scott)
MESSAGE: Yes I love my Maytags too. Be careful there could be some serious Equator slamming and slapping before the summers out!
-anonymous maytag owner in boston
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Post# 2810-7/17/2001-05:48 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Factory Fresh '49 Arrives- Finally! (Heaven forbid! Tower Top Stays! Naughty Boy!)
MESSAGE: No,NO,nO,nO,no,no the Tower Top is taking awell deserved rest since he shook loose some of his screws around the cabinet last year.
jet
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Post# 2811-7/17/2001-05:53 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Factory Fresh '49 Arrives- Finally! (Sorry Eddy)
MESSAGE: Sorry Eddy I just couldn't resist the photo op. I'd love to see you dangle that Huebsch machine in front of me. Does it have a different control back than the SQ machine?
jon
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Post# 2812-7/17/2001-05:56 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
Pix of day????
MESSAGE: Today there is a nice girl doing her hippiee duds in a Westinghouse F/L. Has anyone ever seen one of those machines? I have not. It looks like it has a bigger cabinet than the later 3 belt drive, but does it have a bigger tub too?
jet
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Post# 2813-7/17/2001-06:26 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention!!!! (no worries here)
MESSAGE: Nobody's arrival time is causing any problems. We're getting in at 9AM on Thursday and have plenty to do before checking in. I just wanted everyone to be aware of this so that there would not be disappointment & wasted time in the motel lobby. Tom
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Post# 2814-7/17/2001-06:27 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Fun Sale Finds and I Made a New Friend (Everything is crossed, even my eyes!)
MESSAGE: they might be representative of newer technologies in glass making. The sets we are talking about were made in the 50s and 60s. TT
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Post# 2815-7/17/2001-06:32 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Novice question - hacking the lid switch
MESSAGE: Jason1, a wooden clothes pin works fine, one side pushed in at an angle holds the lever down. Also ball point pen caps with the projection that makes the clip to hold the pen in your pocket. Tom
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Post# 2816-7/17/2001-06:43 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Factory Fresh '49 Arrives- Finally! (Rushing back to dealer!)
MESSAGE: Jon, didn't Westinghouse use the term Live Water when they came out with the two baffle non-slant tub design in the early 60s? Remember the sort of blue-green wave coming up from the lower left inthe pictures? Tom
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Post# 2817-7/17/2001-06:48 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report (Thanks you Scott)
MESSAGE: What's with all the threatened slapping? Have you been watching too many violent washers or something? Tom
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Post# 2818-7/17/2001-06:56 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pix of day????
MESSAGE: Jon, this is the machine that was the large cap coin-op FL in the early 70s and was the machine I tried to describe that was at the Ansley Square Laundromat which was all WH washers and dry cleaners along with a giant Milnor. It has a big drum, like the WH combo and is the first WH washer I have seen with a soap trap on top. No suspension, plastic window in door and deep boot that let small items rest on it from time to time during tumbling until they were picked up by something larger falling past. Tom
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Post# 2819-7/17/2001-08:11 ||| worldtravler (Detroit/Ypsilanti, MI)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report (Amana washers available again)
MESSAGE: Best Buy has started selling Amana washers and dryers again after discontinuing last year and Lowes has started offering them. Maybe Maytag is pushing the retail stores to carry the brand to liquidate old stock or give the Amana name more recognition in the marketplace.
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Post# 2820-7/17/2001-08:17 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report (Amana washers available again)
MESSAGE: Did Amana make their own cooking appliances, the dishwashers were sourced from GE & Electrolux/Frigidaire over the years. Washers and dryers were sourced from Raytheon/SQ. I wonder what Maytag will do with the line as they have their own sources & factories for all the appliances.
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Post# 2821-7/17/2001-08:21 ||| worldtravler (Detroit/Ypsilanti, MI)
SUBJECT:
RE: I want you to meet............ (matching Calypso dryer)
MESSAGE: I bought the matching Calypso gas dryer last month from the Sears Outlet and love it. It has lots of cycle options... The jeans cycle makes jeans come out completely dry along the seams without overdrying elsewhere. The bulky items cycle seems to work particularly well with sheets...no damp spots in the middle! I have been keeping my eye on the Calypso washers waiting for them to break the $500 dollar price point at the outlet store. The Kenmore front loaders have gone down to $299 in my outlet. I would love to trade in the Frigidaire top loader I have on a HE machine.
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Post# 2822-7/17/2001-09:33 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westinghouse L-8 Laundromat Needs Some Work (Robert-Water Level On L-8???)
MESSAGE: No Jon, the water level looks higher than it is because there are no clothes in the tub and the water is splashing. The water level was perfect and no adjustment was necessary.
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Post# 2823-7/17/2001-09:40 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Factory Fresh '49 Arrives- Finally!
MESSAGE: YAY, glad it arrived safely Jon, enjoy! The Pulsamatic is due to arrive today.
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Post# 2824-7/17/2001-09:44 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report (Amana washers available again)
MESSAGE: The ranges were done with Caloric. Amana did their own refrigerators for years, and here's a twist, used to sell Maytag the freezers Maytag marketed under their label. Tom
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Post# 2825-7/17/2001-11:15 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report (Amana washers available again)
MESSAGE: Is someone else making Amana refrigerators now? Even the bottom freezer ones which I'm told they are the only ones that make them regardless of brand? Are any Amana and Maytag appliances still made in Iowa, or is all that stuff gone now with the various mergers?
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Post# 2826-7/17/2001-14:10 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT:
Convention arrival
MESSAGE: Hi all I just finished making my plane reservation for the convention. I arrive in Minneapolis on Friday at 1:45 p.m.. If I could be of any help Dadoes, Appnut or anyone else just let me know. I am on ATA. Terry
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Post# 2827-7/17/2001-15:39 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Factory Fresh '49 Arrives- Finally!
MESSAGE: It is quite amazing what people can make these days. An automatic washing machine, made by General Motors. I bet that that machine will make a housewife's life easier!
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Post# 2828-7/17/2001-15:46 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report (Thanks you Scott)
MESSAGE: I'm still not convinced about the Neptune's qualities, I'm still a little sceptical about the tilted drum design. And no internal heater. And now window.
Anonymous Miele owner in Europe.
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Post# 2829-7/17/2001-16:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
How many washer collectors does it take to change a light bulb?
MESSAGE: Oh it’s going to be a long & busy month 'till the convention. In preparation for the convention, I’m trying to give each machine a bit of polishing and fine-tuning, so I thought I would start with the Control Tower washer. It runs perfectly except one of the three 10 watt timer dial light bulbs had burned out. So I pulled the machine out, removed the back cover from the rear of the control tower and carefully removed the timer. I replaced the burned out bulb and with extreme care replaced the timer. You have to be extremely careful in replacing the control tower timer, because you must line up the timer shaft to the little hole in the center of the glass timer dial or you will break the glass dial indicator. I did break the glass once and so did Don Hagerty with his control tower, we both learned the hard way, thank goodness I had two extra WI-57 glass dials at the time. So I got it all back together, plugged in the machine, set the timer knob to fill and pushed in to see if all three bulbs light and POP-CLICK the washer pops the circuit breaker. I was like, what the heck all I did was change a light bulb!! It took me 75 minutes of taking out the timer, checking all the leads and carefully re-installing the timer to figure out that the problem was not in the timer at all. The problem was that when I took the drain hose out of the drain (to move out the machine) I hung it over the back of the machine near the water valve. The hose has a metal goose-neck end and the metal was touching both the hot water solenoid electrical lead as well as the cabinet. When I started the machine in fill, the electrical circuit shorted to the cabinet and pop’d the circuit breaker. Removing the hose fixed the problem.
Now I moved the WI-57 into its new position next to the DI-57 Filtrator (where the Duomatic/Automagic use to reside) and spend over an hour leveling both machines so their Control Towers line up even and they look beautiful, right out of a 1957 BH&G ad. I ran a load through the ’57 and it worked perfectly. When I went downstairs this morning I found a large puddle of water in front of the machine. Apparently all that moving around effected the pump seal, and now I must pull the machine out again, replace the pump seal and reinstall and level the machine all over again, probably another 2.5 hours of work minimun. Not to mention also that the big puddle of water left a huge mark in the beautiful wax finish on the new floor. ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH.
Lets hope the other machines are better behaved!
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Post# 2830-7/17/2001-16:54 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Convention arrival (in spirit)
MESSAGE: I'll be there in spirit. Uni, wash a load in the Lady Kenmore for me, will ya? I would love to see and hear an old Kenmore run again.
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Post# 2831-7/17/2001-16:58 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report (Amana is now owned by Maytag)
MESSAGE: Gansky1:
No one. Speed Queen no longer offers laundry appliances for residential use. Speed Queen now manufactures commercial laundry equipment for commercial laundries and coin operated laundromats.
--Charles--
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Post# 2832-7/17/2001-17:02 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report (Amana is now owned by Maytag)
MESSAGE: Gansky1:
And if I start seeing Neptunes being offered with the Amana badge on it, then I think that would be a disaster, given the track record that Maytag has accumulated thus far with their Neptunes. It would be wise for Amana to bring back their F/L and revive it. I liked their model when it first came out.
--Charles--
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Post# 2833-7/17/2001-18:17 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report (Amana is now owned by Maytag)
MESSAGE: It has always been unclear whether top load Amana washers were made by Goodman Industries or by Alliance Laundry Systems. While Alliance owns Speed Queen, Huebsch and Unimac, I don't know where the Amana domestic appliances come from. This weekend is the Clean Show in New Orleans, and I'll be sure to get the story from the Alliance guys, and smooze a bit with Maytag to see what their story is. I'm sure WP will have Calypso coin-ops demoing, and Wasco will have their new Gen 6 machines. More coming after this weekend!
-ph
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Post# 2834-7/17/2001-18:27 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pix of day????
MESSAGE: Jon,
There's a laundromat a few miles from me tha still has 3 (I think) of those machines in operation.
Steve 1-18
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Post# 2835-7/17/2001-18:53 ||| Jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pix of day???? (My mom worked in a laundromat when I was small.)
MESSAGE: They have Kenmore T/L washers (60s vintage :-) and westinghouse F/L's. I used to love going with my mom to work and she started all the coin op washers to make sure they worked fine. Boy was it heaven standing in the middle of 20 agitating Kenmores and the Front loaders going at the same time. The westinghouse was new but they had an older F/L shaped like a barrel. I remember the water filling halfway up the door and the suds it made.
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Post# 2836-7/17/2001-20:05 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report (Amana is now owned by Maytag)
MESSAGE: How does Amantag sound for a "nickname" for Maytag's recently aquired brand name?
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Post# 2837-7/17/2001-20:43 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Factory Fresh '49 Arrives- Finally! (Rushing back to dealer!)
MESSAGE: Tom I'll have to check the ads for that slogan. Frigidaire used it in their early TV ads I know. I'll cruise the mags for this.
Dad is doing much better and is out of ICU so the summer is looking much brighter and I am starting to get excited about the convention!!
jon
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Post# 2838-7/17/2001-20:44 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report (Thanks you Scott)
MESSAGE: No Tom, Peter slammed our Maytags a few posts back so we aren't going to take it lying down-the slam I mean
jet
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Post# 2839-7/17/2001-20:46 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pix of day????
MESSAGE: Sounds like a very cloddy machine to me! Letting dirty laundry take a break from the action. There is NO rest in an ABC I can tell you.
jon
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Post# 2840-7/17/2001-20:52 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Factory Fresh '49 Arrives- Finally! (Uni I heard the news!)
MESSAGE: RObert Phil called me today from C&F! He said I needed to tell him we needed a lift gate on your end. I just assumed C&F would know this and it was included like with UPS. I told him to upcharge my card and get the machine to you pronto!!
Sorry I guess it was my mix up because they just dropped the '49 right off in my driveway and my cleaning lady signed for it. I wasn't even home. Now that I think about it that seems bizarre because I told him it was going to a house and not a factory.
jet
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Post# 2841-7/17/2001-20:54 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Factory Fresh '49 Arrives- Finally!
MESSAGE: Louis it'll sure make this housewifes life a lot easier!jet
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Post# 2842-7/17/2001-20:58 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
RE: Factory Fresh '49 Arrives- Finally!
MESSAGE: Congratulations Jon,
I hope you can keep that new contraption running for a good long time. There must be some reason why they only offer a one-year factory warranty on those things!
In all seriousness, I wonder if anyone at the factory in Dayton where it was manufactured would have thought the machine would still be working 50 years later?
Have fun with it!
Ken
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Post# 2843-7/17/2001-20:58 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: How many washer collectors does it take to change a light bulb? (How FRustrating!)
MESSAGE: Oh Robert I bet you were beside yourself! What a lot of work. Your 57 is mis'bhaven! Have you not run it in awhile? All you may need is for that gasket to get good and wet again??
I'll help when I get out there don't kill yourself over it.
We'll have lots of spit & polish for the boys!
jetcone
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Post# 2844-7/17/2001-21:01 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report (Wasco pix Peter)
MESSAGE: Peter take some pix of the new Wascos huh?
jet
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Post# 2845-7/17/2001-21:01 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pix of day????
MESSAGE: I must come down and try them I am curious!
jon
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Post# 2846-7/17/2001-21:03 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Factory Fresh '49 Arrives- Finally!
MESSAGE: Thank you Ken you'll have to come out to Boston sometime and try a load in her!
jon
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Post# 2847-7/18/2001-02:56 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: How many washer collectors does it take to change a light bulb? (labour of love)
MESSAGE: The Control tower uis such a cool looking machine. How many in the club own one? And even better, I wonder how much it would cost to ship one to Australia?? (most probably prohibitivly expensive)
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Post# 2848-7/18/2001-02:57 ||| spiralator60 (Los Angeles, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: The "Dennis" cartoon (Additional info)
MESSAGE: Hi everyone! This is my first post in Applianceville. There is some additional information that I'd like to add to the discussion.
Concerning "Momma's Family": The kitchen set changed noticeably when the show left the NBC network and entered syndication. For example, the washer in the NBC episodes was a Frigidaire (with a fluorescent light panel over the controls), but was a Kenmore in the syndicated version of the show. I'm not sure about the dryers, as I remember that there was often a clothes basket on top of the dryer in the NBC and syndicated episodes, right in front of the control panel.
Concerning "Hazel": There are a couple of episodes that are available on video. If you look at the shots of the kitchen that show the utility room, there is a pair of Philco machines next to the water heater. One of the units may very well be a Duomatic, but it is hard to say. Both of the machines do have windows in the doors. I know that one of the machines is a separate dryer, and am reasonably sure that the other machine is a front load washer, as Philco was advertising these machines in addition to the Duomatic and Automagic beginning in 1959. There was an ad campaign that appeared in "American Home" and "Life" magazines during February, March, and April of that year featuring the Duomatic, and also mentioning and showing the other machines.
As you can tell, I am a serious appliance watcher when it comes to television. Please let me know your thoughts on this.
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Post# 2849-7/18/2001-04:34 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westinghouse L-8 Laundromat Needs Some Work (Springy Pump)
MESSAGE: I never paid attention. I'll check when I get to work today and reply later.
SD
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Post# 2850-7/18/2001-04:44 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report (Thanks you Scott)
MESSAGE: The water heater is only on the 7500.
SD
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Post# 2851-7/18/2001-04:51 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report (Amana is now owned by Maytag)
MESSAGE: How about Mayana?
SD
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Post# 2852-7/18/2001-05:53 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
Steve 1/18
MESSAGE: I've been spending a lot of time online lately. Is there a night that you see that you will be able to call me? That way, I'll know to staff off the computer. (DOn't mean to put you in a box, but I'm trying to have a workable solution. That's why most times calls are going to my voice mail). Bob
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Post# 2853-7/18/2001-05:56 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: The "Dennis" cartoon (Additional info)
MESSAGE: Spiralator, WELCOME, and please keep posting. Glad you've joined our community.
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Post# 2854-7/18/2001-05:57 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report (Amana is now owned by Maytag)
MESSAGE: Greg, sorry, but I like Mayana better. It flows off the tongue much better.
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Post# 2855-7/18/2001-07:31 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report (Amana is now owned by Maytag)
MESSAGE: I just thought A Man Tag conjours up some neat images of shopping for a new man......
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Post# 2856-7/18/2001-07:58 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report (Mayana!)
MESSAGE: Sounds like some female exotic dancer in India! woohoo!
"Wanna see my sweet Mayana? She's in the house doing laundry."
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Post# 2857-7/18/2001-09:02 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Factory Fresh '49 Arrives- Finally! (Uni I heard the news!)
MESSAGE: No Jon don't do that, I went up to the Northern Suburbs last night picked up the Pulsamatic myself at the warehouse, it was just easier than dealing with them. All the other shipments I got, they just dropped it off in-front of my garage.
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Post# 2858-7/18/2001-09:04 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: How many washer collectors does it take to change a light bulb? (How FRustrating!)
MESSAGE: No not the pump housing gasket, the impeller shaft seal is bad, if the bottom motor housing bell becomes defomed (due to age) in any way shape or form the spring seal does not seat properly.
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Post# 2859-7/18/2001-09:07 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: The "Dennis" cartoon (Lets capture them!)
MESSAGE: Hi Sprialator and welcome to applianceville. I think the best thing for us to do would be to try and video-capture some of those shots and post them here on the club. Maybe sometime later in the year, you guys can send me videos of TV washer scenes you have and I can capture the frame as a picture and post them to our club.
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Post# 2860-7/18/2001-11:24 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
Savage semi-automatic
MESSAGE: Wow! Too bad this working Savage washer is an hour away from Montreal, Canada!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1447686935
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Post# 2861-7/18/2001-11:46 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: How many washer collectors does it take to change a light bulb?
MESSAGE: Gosh, Robert, you really opened up Pandora's box with the 57 Frigidaire. Thanks for all the work you are doing to make everything perfect for the convention. I can't wait to be in your basement again and all of your handiwork and new machines.
Rich
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Post# 2862-7/18/2001-11:53 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: The "Dennis" cartoon (Additional info)
MESSAGE: Welcome Spiralator! Another So Cal washer-head here. I'm in Orange County.
Rich
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Post# 2863-7/18/2001-11:56 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report (Amana is now owned by Maytag)
MESSAGE: how about "Tagaman" (ha! almost sounds like an antacid...or maybe a fun parlor game)
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Post# 2864-7/18/2001-11:58 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report (Amana is now owned by Maytag)
MESSAGE: I agree now Greg, it's just that the A in Amantag distorted my perception. If it could have been right on with Mantag, I probabaly would have grabbed for it.
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Post# 2865-7/18/2001-12:03 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report (Amana is now owned by Maytag)
MESSAGE: I dunno Rich, the antacid souds just what I need in my current dillemma--tagaman would should help solve it LOL
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Post# 2866-7/18/2001-12:46 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: The "Dennis" cartoon (Appliance TV)
MESSAGE: The ultra-classic Calgon commercial still runs on TV Land (GE washer). I do remember the Frigidiare vs. Lady Kenmore commercials. There's also the supremely classic Brady Bunch episode where Bobby (or Peter) loads the AVOCADO washer to the gills with soap and the suds are everywhere! I have a Ren & Stimpy episode where Stimpy washes Ren's collection of "used celebrity underwear". Funny.
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Post# 2867-7/18/2001-13:35 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Interesting tidbit
MESSAGE: For our upcoming visitors, especially the first time ones!
LINK: http://www.startribune.com/viewers/qview/cgi/qview.cgi?template=biz_a_cache&slug=port19
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Post# 2868-7/18/2001-13:41 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
Calapso alternative
MESSAGE: Can this be a better alternative to the Calapso
I hope the link worked
need openions
Peter
LINK: http://www.samsungelectronics.com/washing_machine/tech_info/tech_info_02.html
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Post# 2869-7/18/2001-13:49 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Calapso alternative
MESSAGE: Well, it sure *looks* cool Peter, and I love the window. I have heard some opinions that this type of machine tangles, but then look at what people say about Frigidaire. I can't say about these since I've not tried them. I do have to say it bugs me that they call that whirligig in the bottom a "pulsator". Hoover did the same thing.
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Post# 2870-7/18/2001-13:52 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Calapso alternative (good ?)
MESSAGE: does anyone know if these can be purchased in the states?
Peter
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Post# 2871-7/18/2001-14:30 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT:
RE: Calapso alternative
MESSAGE: my Haier is basically the same thing and it tangles clothes terribly. i often have to stop it and pull everything apart because it's knotted up so bad.
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Post# 2872-7/18/2001-15:18 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report (Amana is now owned by Maytag)
MESSAGE: I think I like Maymana better... LOL!
-ph
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Post# 2873-7/18/2001-15:25 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pix of day????
MESSAGE: I missed the pic, but I understand this was the Westy version of the double loader. You can still find a few around in older 'mats. Tom is right, they have a long boot that small items can "rest" upon during the wash. The really interesting thing about these machines is that they don't pause when changing directions. With a snap of the timer, they switch directions. One good thing about them is that they wash for a good 12-14 minutes, nearly unheard of in today's coin-op machines.
-ph
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Post# 2874-7/18/2001-15:38 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Calapso alternative
MESSAGE: I *knew* someone on here had talked about these, and I just could not remember who it was!
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Post# 2875-7/18/2001-16:49 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: The "Dennis" cartoon (Scooby Doo-Ghost in a Washer)
MESSAGE: Does anyone remember the Scooby Doo episode when they caught a ghost in the slant-front f/l washer? That was always one of my favorites.
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Post# 2876-7/18/2001-16:54 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Calapso alternative (good ?)
MESSAGE: GE has a machine in their line with the exact same filter - no window lid and I don't know about the waterfall action, but it's by the same mfgr.?? I've seen them in a couple of stores here. They are marketed with a portable dryer on a stand above the washer (dryer by WP.)
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Post# 2877-7/18/2001-16:57 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Calapso alternative
MESSAGE: Does the pulsator move in only one direction? I would think that would have a lot to do with the tangling - maybe with a center post and reversing action it wouldn't be so bad. On the upside, a tangled ball of clothes would be easy to unload! ;-)
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Post# 2878-7/18/2001-17:03 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Calapso alternative (GE Model)
MESSAGE: I saw this model by G/E also - it is different I think - It has a full adigator in it but doesn't look like it has fins on the adj - so it doesn't look like it does much. Somehow the samsung
looks like it doesn't have a adj post. I also don't think the GE has a waterfall.
Peter
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Post# 2879-7/18/2001-20:09 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT:
RE: Calapso alternative (GE Model)
MESSAGE: If I remember correctly the GE portable is made by Whirlpool and is also sold under the Kenmore name. Whirlpool calls theirs the World Washer and it has a funny basket type of filter in the center of the agitator.
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Post# 2880-7/18/2001-20:11 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT:
RE: Calapso alternative (good ?)
MESSAGE: This is like the old GE washer that had the disk in the bottom of the tub. It swirls one way for a few seconds and then goes the other direction. It's not a bad machine for hand towels, undies or dinner napkins but I would hate to try it on jeans or sheets.
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Post# 2881-7/18/2001-20:33 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
Chat Room Open
MESSAGE: For the newer members who aren't aware, I have a private chat room set up -- private only in the sense that the address of it isn't widely known. No additional software is required beyond a browser that supports Java.
I'm hanging out there for the next couple hours or so, while I grind through the chores at the night-time job. I can't engage in any heavy-duty conversation, but drop in for a quick "howdy" if you'd like.
LINK: http://users.wcnet.net/dadoes/appchat.html
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Post# 2882-7/18/2001-20:37 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
Who Made Who?
MESSAGE: This is not an album by AC/DC.
I know this brings out my Newbie-ness but after hearing names like Maytana, Whirlmore, Frigmore, Norgetag, etc.....
Ok... Here's what I know correct me if I'm wrong:
Electrolux makes the Frigmores aka GE, Frigidaire, Kenmore - front load washers. Shouldn't it be ElectroFrigMore?
Whirlpool makes Kenmore (whirlmore)
Norge makes Maytag - Which T/L model are Norge? Which are true Maytag?
GE makes Hotpoint & RCA
Now Maytag makes Amana? Or Amana makes Maytag? What?
Like Vinnie Barbarino... I'm sooooo confused !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fisher & Paykel makes Fisher & Paykel - less confusion, more rpm's. (but GE makes their dryer.. AAGHH!!!)
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Post# 2883-7/18/2001-20:54 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Who Made Who?
MESSAGE: ...unless of course you live in Australia, where F&P makes their own dryers, with a window noless....not sure why these are not imported to the United States. Then again, are our F&P washers imported, or do they have a plant in the US?
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Post# 2884-7/18/2001-21:53 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Calapso alternative (GE Model)
MESSAGE: This is a different one that we are talking about - larger cabinet, bi-folding lid as on the site Peter linked to - identical machine. I have seen the WP made washer you are talking about in the GE line too, but this GE is a foreign made for sure. I saw it at a store here in town and another in a store in a small town in northeast NE where I got my Escalara dolly from. I don't know if this will replace the WP made model, but it seemed that you could get much more in this tub than the WP washer model - don't know how that little 110v dryer would be able to keep up.
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Post# 2885-7/18/2001-21:57 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Who Made Who?
MESSAGE: I think the F&P made dryers are much smaller than the GE made dryer we know here in the states. I've seen them mounted on the wall above the washer in European and Austrailian mags. I love the window - some may even be ventless/condenser??
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Post# 2886-7/18/2001-22:49 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Who Made Who?
MESSAGE: My F&P washer is clearly labeled "Made in New Zealand." I think I posted a pic of that somewhere . . . with all the ruckus goes on around here, who knows where, LOL.
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Post# 2887-7/18/2001-23:39 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Who Made Who?
MESSAGE: Jason, you've largely got your info correct. As far as the current Maytag line goes, the Atlantis line has more of the old Magic Chef/Norge heritage in them, although they're supposedly assembled in Newton, many parts come from the Herrin Illinois plant where the others were made. The Maytag Performa LAT models are of the true Maytag Dependable Care heritage. The Performa PAV model(s) are even more closely aligned to the Magic Chef/Norge heritage than the Atlantis. There used to be several of the Montogmery Ward washers & Dryers that were from the Magic Chef/Norge heritage too. Amana & Speed Queen were family related too. Note that GE Discontinued the RCA label about a year or two. Those were essentially Hotpoint machines. Whirlpool, not only supplies Sears, but also supports their own Rober label.
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Post# 2888-7/18/2001-23:45 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Who Made Who?
MESSAGE: And don't forget, Whirlpool = KitchenAid.
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Post# 2889-7/18/2001-01:35 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Who Made Who?
MESSAGE: Yeah, I know Glenn. That whole KA WP thing still can cause me nightmares at times LOL.
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Post# 2890-7/19/2001-04:16 ||| SCOTTDAMIT (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westinghouse L-8 Laundromat Needs Some Work (Springy Pump)
MESSAGE: Jetcone,
The pump has the white housing with the black pulley. yes it is for sale.
SD
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Post# 2891-7/19/2001-06:54 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
POD
MESSAGE: MCP 31 is in our collection. Tom
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Post# 2892-7/19/2001-06:57 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Factory Fresh (sort-of) Pulsamatic Arrives
MESSAGE: We'll he's not exactly factory fresh, but he's a beauty.
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/frigidaire1140/lst?&.dir=/The+Pulsamatic&.src=ph&.view=t&.last=1
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Post# 2893-7/19/2001-06:59 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: How many washer collectors does it take to change a light bulb?
MESSAGE: Robert, How can you be sure it was a pump seal? Tom
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Post# 2894-7/19/2001-07:13 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: The "Dennis" cartoon (Additional info)
MESSAGE: Spiralator60, Welcome to Applianceville. With your eye for detail, I think you are going to have fun here. How did you find us? Were you cruising the net for appliances? Best wishes, Tom
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Post# 2895-7/19/2001-07:17 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report (alternate names)
MESSAGE: or Mayama, or closer to my heart, Myama, as in Florida. silly TT
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Post# 2896-7/19/2001-07:18 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Factory Fresh (sort-of) Pulsamatic Arrives
MESSAGE: Oooooooo....Ahhhhhhhhhh......... OW!
My panties are in a bunch--I can't wait to see it!
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Post# 2897-7/19/2001-07:21 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report (more alternate names)
MESSAGE: If you want to bring German into it, you could translate AMANATAG as: A MAN A DAY. I'll bet you'd really like that Greg! Tom
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Post# 2898-7/19/2001-07:22 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD
MESSAGE: Do you have a picture album of some or most of your collection that you can bring to the convention? It would be fun to see some more pics - as always! Greg
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Post# 2899-7/19/2001-07:24 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report (more alternate names)
MESSAGE: Where do I sign up? How fun!
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Post# 2900-7/19/2001-07:25 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Interesting tidbit
MESSAGE: Thank you Scott. Tom
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Post# 2901-7/19/2001-07:33 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: How many washer collectors does it take to change a light bulb?
MESSAGE: Experience and I was right.
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Post# 2902-7/19/2001-07:34 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Calapso alternative
MESSAGE: Peter, you have to remember that this is a small machine, not the size of the Calypso. The technology looks good; the inverter and frequency controlled motor speed are like Calypso. I hope they have eliminated the tangling problems and sluggish load movement in the earlier generation of japanese impeller washers. Maybe the tub going in the opposite direction will help. Tom
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Post# 2903-7/19/2001-07:41 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Calapso alternative (GE Model)
MESSAGE: Jason is right about the World Washer, but it is a completely different machine with an agitator that just makes one complete revolution, stops and then makes one in the opposite direction. This Samsung thing is a variable speed pulsator washer, a different kind of animal (like a summer cold, if you remember the old TV ad). Tom
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Post# 2904-7/19/2001-07:49 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Calapso alternative (good ?)
MESSAGE: Amen to that. John usually has one of these in the shop, bringing it back to life for some poor apt dweller somewhere in hell. You wind up with this ball of laundry that begins to move a little bit in one direction before the impeller stops to reverse then a few inches in the other on the reverse wave. For such little movement, it is amazing how it tangles. When he tests it with his own laundry and (over) loads it, I have to leave, cause he just lets it go through a cycle and puts the clothes in the dryer. YECH! Giving credit where it is due, they are not bad little extractors if you have something like an old WH FL or KM/WP belch drive. Tom
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Post# 2905-7/19/2001-07:56 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Calapso alternative (GE Model)
MESSAGE: Greg, speaking of 110 volt dryers, the little belch drive portable washer spun at around 800 rpm to help those with the 110 dryer. The direct drive portable and now the World Washer do not spin as fast. Speaking of spinning, if you read the details in the new CU report on Washers, they have FINALLY come to realize that water extraction is important, DUH, so even washers like the WP Resource Saver which uses less water because it only offers a spin spray rinsing in its regular cycle gets good marks for water efficiency, but lower marks for for energy efficiency because of its slower spin. I predict that we are going to see spin speeds improve. TT
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Post# 2906-7/19/2001-08:00 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD
MESSAGE: Greg, I will look for pictures. Tom
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Post# 2907-7/19/2001-08:05 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: How many washer collectors does it take to change a light bulb?
MESSAGE: MY, MY, you must have taken that washer on a real rumba instead of waltzing through your washday if all that much happened to her. You have to be gentle with the aged. Tom
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Post# 2908-7/19/2001-08:29 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Calapso alternative (GE Model)
MESSAGE: I've seen the World Washer Jason is talking about, but didn't realize that the agitation was so different - I just thought it was a plain old WP. Did they incorporate this into the stacked set too?
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Post# 2909-7/19/2001-08:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Calapso alternative (GE Model)
MESSAGE: Finally! Back in the days before everyone had a dryer, they discounted Frigidaire unimatics saying it was difficult to remove clothes from the sides of the tub after the cycle. My how things come full circle.
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Post# 2910-7/19/2001-09:53 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: How many washer collectors does it take to change a light bulb? (King Kong Movement)
MESSAGE: I picked up the Control Tower washer, like King King did to the Empire State Building, and threw it clear across the basement, towards it's new spot. It so much easier than dealing with the appliance mover and all those straps.
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Post# 2911-7/19/2001-10:21 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Calapso alternative (GE Model)
MESSAGE: Greg, not that I know of. The thin twin is still the little direct drive. The World Washer is taller so installations where the dryer is above need modification or contortions, but the WW spins at 800 so it is on a par with the little belt drive washer in extraction and has a much larger tub so it is better with a 110 volt dryer than the DD washer. They also make the WW in a model on wheels. Tom
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Post# 2912-7/19/2001-10:23 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Calapso alternative (GE Model)
MESSAGE: I goofed. I did not mean to say the World Washer did not spin as fast as the BD. I just washed my hands and can't make my fingers do a thing. Tom
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Post# 2913-7/19/2001-10:27 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: How many washer collectors does it take to change a light bulb? (King Kong Movement)
MESSAGE: Gosh Robert, maybe you could make an ad for your gym showing how before you joined, you used to use a hand truck to move appliances and now you just heave them into place. Then you could do a Got Milk? commercial. Appliance Super Hero Robert. TT
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Post# 2914-7/19/2001-11:40 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Interesting tidbit
MESSAGE: Your Majesty,
We are very happy with the fact that you have prepared our state visit so thoroughly!
QLOTOC
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Post# 2915-7/19/2001-11:57 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Factory Fresh (sort-of) Pulsamatic Arrives
MESSAGE: Robert, it is indeed a beauty, it's going to be thorougly examined at the convention!
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Post# 2916-7/19/2001-12:00 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report (more alternate names)
MESSAGE: Like: A man a day keeps the doctor away?
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Post# 2917-7/19/2001-12:11 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report (more alternate names)
MESSAGE: Me too, but I just want the same one each day!!!
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Post# 2918-7/19/2001-12:20 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report (more alternate names)
MESSAGE: Louis, I believe that was Mae West's philosophy, either that or A thrill a day keeps the chill away. Tom
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Post# 2919-7/19/2001-12:22 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: August Consumers Washer Report (more alternate names)
MESSAGE: Bob, so you just would set the selector to repeat, or maybe repeter. TT
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Post# 2920-7/19/2001-15:44 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
Clean Show!
MESSAGE: I'm here in the "cyber cafe" at the Clean show in New Orleans!!! I got to the hotel and found that I left my digital camera at home! @*&$%@#%#&!!!!!!!!!! You guys would die here. So far, the new Wasco Gen6's are wonderful, and those pitiful fools at WP didn't bring a Calypso! Tomorrow the education seminars begin, as does walking the convention floor and getting loaded up with goodies.
How many of you want an autographed pic of the new, young Maytag stud? I'll see how many I can get...
-ph
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Post# 2921-7/19/2001-17:05 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
golittlesport
MESSAGE: I just sent you a high-priority email.
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Post# 2922-7/19/2001-17:07 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Clean Show!
MESSAGE: Count me in on the autographed picture of Mr. Maytag
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Post# 2923-7/19/2001-17:20 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Clean Show!
MESSAGE: A pic of him in his boxers (like the commercial) would be great - but anything will do, what a hottie! Have you all seen the new commercial where he's telling the WKRP Maytag man about how he skipped prom to defrost a freezer - too funny!
Have a great time Peter - get lots of brochures to bring in August!
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Post# 2924-7/19/2001-18:38 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: golittlesport
MESSAGE: Rich I just sent you another email. I see hope. Let me know what you think.
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Post# 2925-7/19/2001-19:16 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Clean Show!
MESSAGE: I still have not seen those commercials.
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Post# 2926-7/19/2001-19:16 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Ironrite
MESSAGE: Reading the appliance forum I stumbled across this Ironrite lover's link someone had posted. I haven't read it all yet but it sounds like a lot of people really loved these, and this particular brand was superior in design and features to the others.
LINK: http://www.ironrite.com
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Post# 2927-7/19/2001-20:17 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Calapso alternative (This is no calypso)
MESSAGE: This is a pulsator/impellor machine. The require a full tub of water to wash and as they tend to use two or three deep rinses are not particulary water efficent.
As everyone else has commented that they tangle are are very prone to overloading I am amazed they still make them. These machinies have been popluar in Asian markets for thirty or more years.
My Aunty had a japanese made whirlpool with impellor from the earlier seventies. It was a small disk that would spin in one direction for a minute, then stop and reverse. These days they make two or three revolutions before reversing. The funny thing is it is not the revolutions that make things tangle, its the lack of the centre post. Hoover washers have an upright agitator that turns about 2 revolutions then reverses, but it does not tangle. Simpson and F&P have a similar action too.
These machines have taken a large share of the Aust washing machine market thanks to LG and Samsung. They are priced competively and have great styling. But I wonder when they will start putting upright agitators in them. In fact it amazes me that this little tangler has lasted so long in washers. Considering the Japanese market is so fussy. Who knows we are all at the mercy of what suits big business.
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Post# 2928-7/19/2001-20:20 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Calapso alternative (GE Model)
MESSAGE: I would like to see this WP world washer. The web site didn't give me too much information. Does it have a spiral agitator? Is the lint filter in the agitator post? Glad to see they are making a washer that doesnt have the short fat agitation stroke.
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Post# 2929-7/19/2001-20:23 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
RE: Clean Show! (Electrodaire/Frigilux)
MESSAGE: Peter,
If there are any Electrolux/Frigidaire reps there at the show, would please find out whether the talk and rumor months ago on our club posts was just that. Remember the posts about WCI giving up on their junk top loader WCI GM-Frigidaire killer washers and returning to a GM up-down pulsator-type mechanism for their new top-load washer line? A stainless steel tub and superfast spin speed was mentioned. See if you get any info about it. Or was it just rumor?
Thanks,
Ken
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Post# 2930-7/19/2001-20:26 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Factory Fresh (sort-of) Pulsamatic Arrives
MESSAGE: Robert the Pulsmatic is really nice. The top and control knobs are very cool. Can't wait to see it finished and installed. Another excellent score!
Todd
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Post# 2931-7/19/2001-20:27 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT:
RE: Calapso alternative (World Washer)
MESSAGE: it has a straight vane agitator and the lint filter is a mesh basket that is attached to a plastic rod which sits in the bottom of the agitator, and it really does work.
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Post# 2932-7/19/2001-20:33 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Calapso alternative (full tub of water )
MESSAGE: I didn't realize these required a full tub of water. It seemed by looking @ the advertising that it was a lot of recirculation
involved & not a full tub of water.
Peter
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Post# 2933-7/19/2001-20:36 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
RE: Factory Fresh (sort-of) Pulsamatic Arrives (Pulsamatic: gears, pulleys, and a belt? (or two))
MESSAGE: Robert,
In all of my appliance obsessed lifetime, I've never seen one of these washers. What year is it? Aren't these from the late fifties? It looks more like an mid-fifties design. You've previously mentioned that the Pulsamatic mechanism was troublesome. The design wasn't around for more than a couple of years, was it?
Ken
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Post# 2934-7/19/2001-20:42 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Clean Show! (Return to GM)
MESSAGE: Ken - that is a dream that will never happen. I don't believe any such rumor. They made a big Mistake by dropping it & couldn't bring it back even if they wanted to. It was something only exclusive to GM. Even if they could bring it back at this point it would be a waste of money at this point because with the water restrictions it would have to be a resource saver. If WCI was smart 20 years ago they wouldn't have dropped it. And with the FL & the JetAction washer they would have been superior in the laundry industry.
Peter
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Post# 2935-7/19/2001-21:14 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Ironrite
MESSAGE: Isn't that a cool site? I found this when I got my Ironrite at a sale and was trying to restore it - new belts, instructions, etc. The site was very helpful and informative.
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Post# 2936-7/19/2001-22:17 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Factory Fresh (sort-of) Pulsamatic Arrives (Solid Mechanism)
MESSAGE: I don't think I ever said that the Pulsamatic mechanism was trouble Ken, just wasn't a two speed machine like Frigidaire wanted. The Multimatic main pulsating/spinning mechanism is built off of the Pulsamatic's design with some belt changes to make it a two speed model as well as the stroke height changed back to the 1 3/4" Unimatic style. This machine is a 1955 model, the very first Pulsamatic. Only 8 pulsamatic models were ever produced covering the years of 1955, 1956, 1957 and 1958.
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Post# 2937-7/19/2001-22:58 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Clean Show!
MESSAGE: Glen, they're worth the wait!!!
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Post# 2938-7/19/2001-23:15 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Calapso alternative (World Washer)
MESSAGE: They certainly did work well. Hvaing always had Simpson with this kind of lint filter, my Mum never stops complaining about having to pull lint out of the sink from the "Magic Clean Lint Filter" in our DD whirlpool. She always complains about me in the laundry watching the whole cycle. I tell her after waiting twenty years to have a whirlpool, I will watch it as much as I like!
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Post# 2939-7/19/2001-23:21 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Calapso alternative (full tub of water )
MESSAGE: The recirculation is to filter lint like the old GE filter flows. They filter trhough two mesh bags at the top of the bag.
Then there is a third one that had no filter bag. Doesnt do anything but provide washer "drama'
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Post# 2940-7/19/2001-23:54 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Ironrite
MESSAGE: Yes, it's great! I've only started reading it but that's definitely a someday must have! I'm quite sure if my mom had come of age just a few years earlier she would have had one too, world-class ironer that she was back in the day! Even though we don't have to do as much ironing as we once did, they could really come in handy for many things. One woman as a matter of fact mentioned being a quilter and how handy it came in for her fabrics. A nice laundry book Uni gave me for my birthday last year has complete how-to instructions in it too, so I am all set! :)
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Post# 2941-7/19/2001-00:02 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Interesting tidbit
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, your every royal comfort and convenience during your state visit is our top priority, and we are quite pleased that our area visitors find the first place you will see in our country to be a pleasant, welcoming place.
We did some research yesterday with regard to your country and our impending future return state visit, and must say we were quite impressed with what it has to offer as well!
QEOM
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Post# 2942-7/19/2001-01:14 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
Dress Code?
MESSAGE: Wondering if there is any particular dress code for any of the planned Convention events. I've been to Rainforest Cafe a couple times, nice shorts and shirt is OK unless the Minne one is more upscale. But what about "Murray's Restaurant?"
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Post# 2943-7/19/2001-01:33 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Interesting tidbit
MESSAGE: Your Majesty,
Please inform us via email which sites you have visited. Perhaps we can send you a few links to other ones that might be to your interest.
QLOTOC
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Post# 2944-7/19/2001-01:34 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dress Code?
MESSAGE: I bet high heels would do fine!
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Post# 2945-7/20/2001-02:37 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dress Code?
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, that sounds perfect!
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Post# 2946-7/20/2001-02:52 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
Are these world washers?
MESSAGE: I found this looking at various whirlpool sites.
LINK: http://www.whirlpoolindia.com/wasmain.html#tabwasher
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Post# 2947-7/20/2001-03:46 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dress Code?
MESSAGE: Glenn, I selected my ensemble for that evening from Dayton's just this week. Mini-check gabardine pant in muted shades of blue, green and goldenrod, and a lovely coordinating dressy knit polo style short sleeve top. It's really quite becoming. :-)
For Sunday brunch, we have a pale cream gabardine pant topped off with a lovely salmon-colored vertical rib knit polo style top. I always buy a new outfit for plane trips, and this is the one I wore on the plane to Portland recently, and it was such a hit, I thought it just the thing for a summertime Sunday morning gathering.
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Post# 2948-7/20/2001-05:34 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Clean Show!
MESSAGE: Peter, glad you are safely in the Big Easy. No pic for me, thanks. Tom
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Post# 2949-7/20/2001-05:53 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dress Code?
MESSAGE: DaDoEs, I doubt that you & I could be found NIFW, unlike NIFC, that weekend. Scott has already told me Murrays would be best with Kakhis & nice shirt--either short sleeve or long sleeve.
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Post# 2950-7/20/2001-09:36 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dress Code? (A Formal Affair - NOT)
MESSAGE: Geeze, wearing Kakhis for me would be like going to a formal affair, Never! I'm a modern-super-casual-kind-of-guy all the way, as a matter of fact I'm sitting here in the office in shorts and a short sleeve shirt right now. On saturday night I plan on wearing Jeans or shorts but I'll forgo the tank-top for the Saturday night dinner as wearing sleeves for me is dressy, but the Rainforest is completely casual. Don't forget right after dinner we return for another big wash-in so you'll want to dress comfortably for that.
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Post# 2951-7/20/2001-11:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
CONVENTION ROSTER
MESSAGE: Here is a list of people who have confirmed they are coming to the convention. It’s getting close now, so we must make restaurant reservations and the like.
Are all of you planning on attending the dinner & brunch, we need to know for reservations? Let me know if your not, (please don’t email me, post it to club so I can keep track) if I don’t hear from someone I’ll assume they are going to both restaurants.
01-Jetcone
02-John Lefever
03-TomTurbomatic
04-PeterH770
05-Golittlesport Rich
06-Gary (Golittlesport’s partner)
07-Scott
08-Louis
09-Appnut
10-Geodon
11-Steve1-18
12-Rhinnie (Steve1-18’s partner)
13-Dadoes
14-Terry-Tlee618
15-Ganksy1-Greg
16-ChesterMike
17-Jeff Lefever (Jeff Adelphi, founder of Yahoo-Classic Appliances)
18-Cal (Jeff’s partner)
19-John Eichenger
20-Dan (friend of John E)
21-Gary Weible
22-Kennywhy
23-Jim (Ken’s Partner)
24-Karen
25-Uni
Who did I miss?????
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Post# 2952-7/20/2001-11:06 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
A Change In Plans
MESSAGE: I swung by Murry's this morning to check out the prices on the menu. I was mistaking in thinking they were relatively inexpensive. It turns out an entrée is $35-$40 which is going to be way too much for some who are traveling all this way. We will pick a new restaurant to keep it in the $30-$35 per person range. I’ll keep everyone posted.
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Post# 2953-7/20/2001-11:29 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dress Code?
MESSAGE: Jeans and slacks and shorts and knit pullovers and a bunch of Dockers-style cotton shirts what I wear as a matter of not having anything else, and I hate long sleeves -- unless the weather is below 40° or so. Don't even ask me about fabrics, I missed out on that gene, LOL!
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Post# 2954-7/20/2001-11:30 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dress Code?
MESSAGE: How's about NIUBWFP?
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Post# 2955-7/20/2001-12:28 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: CONVENTION ROSTER
MESSAGE: I'll be there for dinner & brunch. And Scott knows I'll be attending his Sun. afternoon reception too. Bob
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Post# 2956-7/20/2001-12:31 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Dress Code?
MESSAGE: Works for me. But let's hope nobody has the music to Flashdance. LOL
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Post# 2957-7/20/2001-17:11 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Dress Code?
MESSAGE: Sounds like you have a nice variety, Glenn! Minneapolis is a pretty easygoing place as far as dress goes, so you'll do just fine!
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Post# 2958-7/20/2001-17:11 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Dress Code?
MESSAGE: Bob, email me when you have a chance, I'm curious to hear about this acronym. I figured out the other ones but not this one.
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Post# 2959-7/20/2001-18:17 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Dress Code? (Shorts it is then - thank goodness!)
MESSAGE: Super casual is the way - everyday. If Saturday night's dinner were anything else, I'd have to buy something! It may be "up north" but that by no means much cooler summer weather. It could very easily be swampy humid and 90+ degrees in August. I've been in some lovely cool evenings in MN, so at the most a shawl is all anyone will need if you choose to leave the washing fun!
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Post# 2960-7/20/2001-18:19 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Dress Code?
MESSAGE: I'll put that on my list of things to bring!
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Post# 2961-7/20/2001-18:24 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Dress Code?
MESSAGE: Yeah! Email me too, I wanna know if what you came up with for it is what I intended. 8-)
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Post# 2962-7/20/2001-18:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Nametags - Information Please!
MESSAGE: I am going to prepare nametags for everyone (at least for the Friday night wash-in) so that we will be able to easily put a face with a name and/or screen name. If everyone attending would send me an e-mail with your full name, screen name (and the name of the person attending with you) I can start work on them now and hopefully get them right before the convention.
Robert has graciously given access to the files of our wallpaper selections from the club, so if you'd let me know what you'd like as wallpaper for the nametags, I'll try to get that to work also.
Here's what I need from everyone:
Your Full Name (and the name of attending guest)
Your ClassicAppliance Club ID/Screen name
Where you are from (City/State)
Wallpaper Choice
Email to: gansky1@yahoo.com
Thanks all!!
LINK: gansky1@yahoo.com
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Post# 2963-7/20/2001-18:53 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Dress Code? (Shorts it is then - thank goodness!)
MESSAGE: Greg, I don't think we have any "coat and tie" restaurants in Minneapolis any more, but in talking to Bob I just wasn't sure whether jeans, shorts and etc. would "fly" in a place like Murray's, the restaurant we had been discussing, but Robert certainly knows what's what and it sounds like you can do that now.
In my post to Glenn, I was just playing up the fabrics and colors of my outfits for the fun of it. I have a sense of style for my day to day life that works very well for me, but that a lot of folks consider to be "dressed up" so to speak, even though I don't. Sometimes for fun I try things on outside of my personal norm when I go shopping, and they look great on others, but I just feel very self-conscious and underdressed, but that's just who I am, not the fault of the garment or anyone who does wear it. Who knows, I may come across something completely out of character sometime that I like and shock everyone, LOL.
What's nice is everyone today can pretty much have their own sense of style and there aren't as many hard and fast rules, thus it can be a more personal thing, as it should be. I have cut back a lot on dry clean only stuff because of the cost of the cleaning, and I'm especially glad that I can wear all washable things to work.
To add to what you said though, unless August turns out to be a drastic departure from the norm, short sleeves and shorts, if people like them, will work great from a climate point of view.
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Post# 2964-7/20/2001-22:19 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: I'll be there!!!
MESSAGE: Hi Robert, I plan to attend both events, I do have to fly back on Sunday afternoon though so I will probably miss Scott's get-together..Not happy about that but can't take more than one day off of school.
Terry
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Post# 2965-7/21/2001-08:33 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: First Stress relief Wash-in
MESSAGE: I invited some of the gang I work with to a Stress Relief Wash-In. We had food, drink, and washers. I told people to bring their laundry, but I saved some of my own. Of course no one had seen my collection, so they didn't understand the BYOL.
One of the 1-18 became an ice chest. Another was a bar.
Everyone was fascinated by the Jet-Action washing. I couldn't contain myself, when 3 machines were all spinning at the same time. I raised my arms into the air (like an ochestra conductor) and conducted a symphony of spin! Ahhhh, such music to my ears.
Everybody had a great time.
Steve 1-18
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/svb14_1953/slideshow?&.dir=/Stress+relief+wash-ih&.src=ph&.view=t
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Post# 2966-7/21/2001-09:58 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: First Stress relief Wash-in
MESSAGE: How fun! It looks like you had a great turn out and a fun evening. I loved seeing the pictures of your studio too - great idea for the control panel display shelves!
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Post# 2967-7/21/2001-11:26 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: First Stress relief Wash-in
MESSAGE: Cool idea Steve and quite a large gathering! Your machines look great. I like how you have everything laid out. I agree with Greg, great idea for displaying all the consoles.
Todd
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Post# 2968-7/21/2001-12:03 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: First Stress relief Wash-in
MESSAGE: Great pics Steve. What fun.
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Post# 2969-7/21/2001-12:05 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Nametags - Information Please!
MESSAGE: Greg, in a minute I'll let you know.
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Post# 2970-7/21/2001-15:28 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Updates from the Clean Show
MESSAGE: Hope you all are having a wonderful weekend...
When Raytheon sold Amana to Goodman, Goodman bought both the factories and the designs. Then Raytheon sold off Speed Queen, which became Alliance. Alliance kept the Speed Queen design of the time. After a while, Goodman began to change some things of the Amana washer. Long story short, the today's Speed Queen is definitely a DIFFERNT washer from Amana. One guy believes that John Deere is making the Amana tranny...
The third iteration of SQ Horizon washers are out. They have a really solid door (still made of plastic) that is a huge improvement over previous models. I have over heard several people say that they have bought the SQ Horizon for their home and they love them. It seems they ironed out much of the quirkiness I thought they had...
Whirlpool is not sure which high efficiency machine they will release to the coin-op market -- the Calypso or the HE3 front loader. They are currently running field tests on both machines, and expect to announce their decision in December. Off the record reports say the HE3 machine will probably be the one...
There is no one here from the domestic side of Electrolux to comment on Frigidaire. In fact, most of the Wasco guys and the few Elux guys I talked to had no idea that there ever was a top load washer with an up-and-down agitator...
There is one Easy twin-tub Spirlator washer here in the Hamilton Engineering display showing water heaters "then" and "now"...
Staber is here and they say that their business has been picking up. They will introduce their machines here shortly with a window in the top. Their models now have a mechanism that stops their 6-sided cylinder at the end of the cycle with the trap door at the top...
Wasco Gen 6 machines will be available in December...
Dexter is coming out with a new line of solid mount, higher extraction machines, pulling about 200 g's. Dexter currently has the highest G-force extract in the industry (about 95 g's) in their standard solid-mount models...
Lever will be introducing Wisk tablets in a coin-vend size soon. P&G cannot do the same with their Tide tabs, because their tabs are too big to fit in vending machines...
Catch you all later!
-ph
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Post# 2971-7/21/2001-16:17 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Updates from the Clean Show
MESSAGE: Thanks for the interesting update Peter! Kind of sad though that GM Frigidaire is getting so far into the past that there are now people who don't even remember it....good thing we have our club to keep it alive!
I like Wisk Tablets, I think they do a nice job. One is great for the Frigidaire washer. Do they work well in laundromat f/l? I'm guessing you would also use one in such a machine. Enjoy the rest of your weekend, I'm off to work now for a bit, I took a shift to help someone out this evening last minute. Scott
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Post# 2972-7/21/2001-16:20 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: First Stress relief Wash-in
MESSAGE: What wonderful pictures Steve and how fun to have non washer people see and experience your collection. I really like what you've done with the arrangement and display, it has really come together nicely!
I saw on TV once about using a washer for an ice chest. I told Robert about it but he would have none of it. Enjoy the rest of your weekend! Scott
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Post# 2973-7/21/2001-16:24 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: I had a delightful day today estate saleing with Robert and his partner, Neal. He will post pictures soon I'm sure. I have yet another wonderful antique cleaner that will be part of my collection and convention open house too, Robert has a picture and I will post more when I get it cleaned up, although it really is in beautiful shape. Scott
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Post# 2974-7/21/2001-18:40 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: First Stress relief Wash-in
MESSAGE: Well Steve, these pictures get me even more excited about my stay with you and Rhinnie! Louis
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Post# 2975-7/21/2001-21:53 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Updates from the Clean Show
MESSAGE: Peter, thanks for all the "scoops". I'm glad they weren't "deterred gents" in disclosing the info.
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Post# 2976-7/21/2001-21:56 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: First Stress relief Wash-in (Stress Relief)
MESSAGE: Steve This looks like a real fun way to relieve stress. I wish I could have been their.
Peter
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Post# 2977-7/21/2001-22:06 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Updates from the Clean Show (It is sad)
MESSAGE: Scott It is sad that people don't remember GM Frigidaire. But it has been 20 years. When I do appliance shopping and see the Frigidaire name I still always think of the GM Frigidaire.
Hard to believe at one time it was a high quarlity product and than went from one extreme to another (Sh__)
Have a good night,
Peter
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Post# 2978-7/21/2001-23:28 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday (slip on those black patent pumps and polish that floor!)
MESSAGE: Goodness I almost forgot about my wonderful "new" pink Hoover floor polisher! So don that apron and those pumps at the open house, and take your turn polishing the kitchen floor! :)
Robert also gave me a sneak peek of the latest arrival too; it is one cool machine! The washer "elf" is definitely hard at work preparing for the fast-approaching holiday at hand!
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Post# 2979-7/22/2001-06:05 ||| miss jet cone (Hopkins ,MN)
SUBJECT: RE: Miss Jet Cone? (the shirt)
MESSAGE: sorry for the delay I will take an Xtra large.
thanks miss jet cone
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Post# 2980-7/22/2001-08:31 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: First Stress relief Wash-in (Great Picts)
MESSAGE: Thanks for sharing Steve, Wash-In's are soooo much fun! Less than a month now until the worlds largest ever Wash-In!
I didn't realize you had so many coppertone machines, they look great together!
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Post# 2981-7/22/2001-09:51 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: First Stress relief Wash-in (Awesome!)
MESSAGE: I wish I was there, I had LOTS of laundry Friday night hehe. Of course, I would've used the Lady Kenmore keyboard. Great beautiful coppertone Frigidaire's.
What are those Front loaders I saw? Frigmores? If so, how do you like them? I'm looking at either a Fisher & Paykel or a Frigmore (Kenmore, to be exact)
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Post# 2982-7/22/2001-09:55 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: DADDoes: Our chat we had
MESSAGE: We were talking about the moisture sensors on dryers. Well, the one on my GE doesn't work because the timer never advanced even when the clothes were dry. I thought the timed cycle only works and that's what I use. I usually go about 15mins for perm press (take them out wet) and 50mins for towels. If I had a 1000+ rpm spin I could cut that time in half.
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Post# 2983-7/22/2001-10:41 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: This weeks photo's...
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/estatesale4/lst?&.dir=/Estate+Sale+Saturday+July+21+2001&.src=ph&.begin=9999&.view=t&.order=&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/estatesale4/lst%3f%26.dir=/Estate%2bSale%2bSaturday%2bJuly%2b21%2b2001%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 2984-7/22/2001-10:44 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: DADDoes: Our chat we had
MESSAGE: My sister's Maytag doesn't work, either.
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Post# 2985-7/22/2001-11:04 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: DADDoes: Our chat we had
MESSAGE: Indeed! With my 850 RPM Frigidaire, sheets dry in 5 minutes and a load of towels and cottons in 25-30. I tumble my shirts and perm press garb for about 10 minutes and hang it up in the bathroom slightly damp. Some of the items do fine dried to completion, but others tend to wrinkle too much after a certain stage, so its better to remove early and hang them up.
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Post# 2986-7/22/2001-11:14 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: So we finally got to seen Neil. Was this his first estate sale or did you keep him out of the pictures until now? ;-)
I'm glad Her Majesty was able to purchase a few nice Hoover items. I have some questions about the floor polisher, but I think they can wait until the convention.
I think the small house under the big tree was very cool. I found it a very romantic picture. Should I move to Minnie?
Thanks for the pictures,
Louis
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Post# 2987-7/22/2001-12:40 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (A Basket for Toto....)
MESSAGE: Good thing you have a hacksaw handy to cut out that bar on top - does it have a bell?
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Post# 2988-7/22/2001-12:54 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: First Stress relief Wash-in (Stress Relief)
MESSAGE: Yes, you wash your cares away. And if you added Calgon water conditioner, you could yell, Calgon take me away!!!
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Post# 2989-7/22/2001-13:25 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Terrific pics as usual. I wonder what year the westy ovens was. Have friends here, about 8 years since I've been in their house, but they had some westy white glass looking double ovens that were a similar style. I believe the house was built in the mid-to-late 60s and at that timne, the cooktop & ovens were still in use. The DW had been replaced with a KA Superba Energy Saver IV or V model, so that gives you an idea of how long the original westy dishwasher lasted. I was fascinated by those ovens. I though their style was outstanding, for their day, and the pics confirmed that. Love that side-swing door. And Scott, with that new floor polisher, a polished kitchen floor yields polished social graces for the host of the occassion, whatever it might be.
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Post# 2990-7/22/2001-13:27 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: DADDoes: Our chat we had
MESSAGE: Glenn, what year/model is your sister's Myg? I wanna know what I have to look forward to time wise. Also, was her's electronic dry control or auto dry control. The latter has a reputation for crapping out much quicker than the electronic dry control type.
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Post# 2991-7/22/2001-13:33 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (A Basket for Toto....)
MESSAGE: That GE washer with the "lid lock" looks like it had the same feature-set as my 1978 GE. It must have been a 3-speed combo because I never remember seeing anywhere in any store a 2-speed combo model with the extra rinse knob. Since I couldn't see the timer dial that closely, I could guage for sure, but the different cycle color bands looked similar to my "yellowish", "orangish", bands. I think my mini-quick cycle was grey. But what's throwing me is, I don't remember the year sequence of when they used the blue activator and the white activator. This one could be older than mine was since it had the blue activator. Mine was white. And how disgusting, that lint fuzz hanging out of the filter stream port. Never allowed that to happen on mine.
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Post# 2992-7/22/2001-17:20 ||| spiralator60 (Los Angeles, California)
SUBJECT: RE: The "Dennis" cartoon (Washer Gold?)
MESSAGE: Glad to hear that I'm not alone. Where in Orange County are you? I am just outside of Torrance. There is another one of us in Van Nuys who has the interest in the Valley. Have you run across any interesting machines lately? Please let me know. Maybe we have hit some of the same spots in the past.
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Post# 2993-7/22/2001-17:21 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: Dishwasher pictures
MESSAGE: A while ago I took a few pictures of how my dishwasher is loaded, both dirty and clean. Just now I uploaded the pictures. As you can see I didn't load my dishwasher like Dadoes does, but in this way you can see a bit more of how the racks look like.
LINK: http://y42.briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/lst?&.dir=/Dishwasher&.src=bc&.view=t&.begin=1&.order=&.done=http%3a//y42.briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/lst%3f%26.dir=/Dishwasher%26.src=bc%26.view=t
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Post# 2994-7/22/2001-17:27 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: DADDoes: Our chat we had (Maytag Auto-Dry)
MESSAGE: I don't know the year/model of my sister's Maytags. They came with the house, which was around 9 years ago. They are the "new" design with the slick-look panels, timers on the side instead of middle. I'm not familiar with the Maytag time-line, but I would guesstimate at least 15 years old?
It's temperature auto-dry, not electronic. What would be the problem? The timer does run on the timed cycle, and doesn't the auto-dry simply cycle the timer with the thermostat? Or does Maytag's design do something different?
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Post# 2995-7/22/2001-17:29 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Dishwasher pictures
MESSAGE: Cool pics - thanks for posting them for us. Is that d/w a Miele? I still want to have a plexiglas panel cut for mine so I can see it running with the door open. I need to have some picture and window glass cut, should get off my tail and do all three!
Will you be able to take all of your appliances with you to the new apartment? Can't wait to see pics of that too!
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Post# 2996-7/22/2001-17:59 ||| spiralator60 (Los Angeles, California)
SUBJECT: RE: The "Dennis" cartoon (Classic Television!)
MESSAGE: Yes! I remember that landmark of television advertising (Well, one of the bright spots that we can talk about with some measure of dignity.) Do you remember the commercial for Snowy Bleach, which was compared with "Brand X?" The one I'm referring to is where two similarly dirty loads of white items were each washed in a Westinghouse Laundromat, and then the results were shown to the camera.
Brady Bunch: Was this the same episode where Jan lost one of her mother's earrings, and Alice later found it in the washing machine? It was a Whirlpool avocado, next to a matching dryer. This brings up two questions. First, for a family with six children, does it not seem a little odd that only one washer and dryer were owned by the family? I mean, for all of the crises that occurred in the Brady household, how did we miss issues related to clothing? Remember, we even witnessed Peter's voice change!
Soap suds: There was also a "Leave It To Beaver" episode, titled "Beaver's Laundry" where Beaver and another friend were in the Cleaver laundry room, and the resulting problem was that there were suds everywhere. I'm not sure what make the washer and dryer were, but the washer had a lid that opened to the left. As far as I know, this was the only time in the second Cleaver house that the laundry room, just off of the kitchen, was shown. The first time was earlier during the run of the show when the washing machine, a Westinghouse Laundromat, was shown in the basement of the first house.
Do you remember the scene in the Bob Hope movie "Bachelor In Paradise" where Bob is not quite sure what he is doing and dumps an entire box of powdered soap into the dispenser of the Duomatic? The result was that the fire department was called to deal with the mountain of foam that was pouring out of the house.
Can you think of any other examples where someone in TV or film added too mush soap or detergent, and into what model of machine?
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Post# 2997-7/22/2001-18:09 ||| spiralator60 (Los Angeles, California)
SUBJECT: RE: The "Dennis" cartoon (How I found the club)
MESSAGE: Tom
I had been looking for various classic appliances for some time, and was finding pertinent hits every now and then. In the course of my job, I am on the Internet frequently throughout the day, and it was in this way that I came across posts in the Appliance forum of That Home Site, and one of the messages specifically cited www.classicappliances.com. In addition, I also found some photos that were posted by Unimatic, and this also led me to the Classic Appliances site.
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Post# 2998-7/22/2001-18:58 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: DADDoes: Our chat we had (Maytag Auto-Dry)
MESSAGE: Glenn, Turbo or someone else will be able to fully explain tomorrow. But, this is a system that measures the dryer exhaust heat temp to "trigger" the timer on aut-dry. So, the device that tells the timer to move (maybe a thermostat or thermistor) is done in. I have some friends with a similar dryer about that age & their auto dry doesn't work anymore either. Back then, there was only 1 or 2 models that came with electronic dry and he told me that the combination of the two machines with electronic dry control was just out of their budget even though he knew that the auto dry control type was more prone to failure. It's why I've always owned electronic moisture sensing models.
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Post# 2999-7/22/2001-19:19 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Dishwasher pictures
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, you are very adept at arranging things in the royal dishwasher. Is it a Miele? We noticed that your cooking units are on top of the dishwasher. Is it a separate unit, or a combination of some sort? Where then, is your oven?
Curious QEOM
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Post# 3000-7/22/2001-19:41 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Dishwasher pictures
MESSAGE: Luigi, great job in loading. I have about 6 or 8 pics of about 4 different loads I have done in my GE PotScrubber, along with mega-laundry day pics, & pics of my kitchen appliances. I just haven't gotten around to uploading them from the diskette. They turned out well. Goal is, before the convention.
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Post# 3001-7/22/2001-19:44 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: DADDoes: Our chat we had (Maytag Auto-Dry)
MESSAGE: Right, but what I'm saying is this:
All dryers measure the exhaust temperature for purposes of cycling the heating element or gas burner when the specified temperature is reached -- high, medium, low, whatever. The difference between auto-dry and timed dry is that in timed dry, the timer motor runs continuously, whether the exhaust air has reached the target temperature or not. On temperature-sensing auto-dry (KA/Whirlpool/Kenmore version, and presumably most or all other designs), the timer motor stays off while the heating element is on, then when the target temp is reached, the heat cycles off and the timer motor turns on. When the exhaust temp drops and the heat cycles back on, the timer motor turns off. And so on, until the "time" on the auto-dry cycle runs out.
If the operating thermostat (that controls the high/medium/low temperature limit -- there may be one for each temp) is stuck or non-functioning such that the heat stays on and never cycles off, then auto-dry would obviously not function, as the timer motor would never turn on. AND, the dryer would keep getting hotter and hotter and hotter, which would likely be quite a noticeable situation. There is also be a safety thermostat that should eventually cycle the heat off, but that is primarily intended for situations of blocked airflow -- if the airflow isn't blocked, it may take a while for the location of the safety stat -- typically in the element plenum on electric models -- to reach the limit temp.
If the machine isn't overheating, then the operating thermostats must be functioning, so what is it that is preventing auto-dry from working? Something in the timer specific to the auto-dry cycle(s)?
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Post# 3002-7/22/2001-20:26 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (Cool Finds)
MESSAGE: What Great finds - I love the Westy wall oven and the timeline dryer
Peter
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Post# 3003-7/22/2001-20:33 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Dishwasher pictures (cool)
MESSAGE: Louis what type of DW is this - I notice you have cooktop installed above - Is that common in Euro?
Peter
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Post# 3004-7/22/2001-23:26 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: First Stress relief Wash-in
MESSAGE: When i was young my aunty used her old Simpson washing amchine (with 70's woodgrain patterned controls) as an ice chest for my cousins engagement party. Needless to say I was very thirsty that night!!!
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Post# 3005-7/22/2001-00:38 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Washing In The Garage
MESSAGE: I told Eddy that I would post some pics of the first test of the A49. This is the machine that I'm bringing up to the convention along with the Economat. I ran a load through it tonight out in the garage to determine what needs to be done. Other than some heavy cleaning and some cosmetic replacements, it runs quite well. There were a couple of interesting phases of the cycle as well as some rare SQ filter drama.
Also in this album list are a couple of pics that I snapped of a good puppy and and bad puppy, just for fun!
Hope everyone had a great weekend!
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/overflowwash/lst?.dir=/Speed+Queen+A49+Test+Run&.view=t
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Post# 3006-7/22/2001-01:06 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: DADDoes: Our chat we had (Maytag Auto-Dry)
MESSAGE: Designs vary with the machine/brands as to the location of the operating and high limit thermostats. Some dryers measure the exhaust air temp. while others measure the temp. inside the drum. On some machines, the timer motor is energized when the operating thermostat reaches a specific temp. and then cycles the heat on and off during the rest of the timer increments toward cool-down and shutoff.
Problems with the timer not being activated by the oper. thermostat could be in the thermostat itself, the wiring or the timer.
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Post# 3007-7/23/2001-02:31 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Washing In The Garage
MESSAGE: Hmmm. An overflow at the start of the wash just doesn't seem right. Are you sure it's supposed to do that? My aunt's time-filled SQ did that once when I accidentally set it for Extra Fill (which is intended for use in low water pressure situations).
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Post# 3008-7/23/2001-03:07 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Washing In The Garage
MESSAGE: Thanks for those pictures, Greg. I really love that filter, I've never seen one like it before. The only accessory I saw on an SQ agitator has been a softener dispenser. One unique difference I noticed about your A49 and mine is that yours doesn't appear to have the one minute "slow down" after the 1st spin. My A49's tub is almost stopped when the timer advances to begin the rinse fill.
Thanks again Greg and I hope everyone will enjoy seeing and hearing this machine in action at the convention (which very unfortunately I cannot attend)
Eddy
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Post# 3009-7/23/2001-03:11 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Washing In The Garage (1st overflow wash)
MESSAGE: Hi DADoES, my machine does this same thing. The intention is to start agitation one level lower than the selected one, then continuing to fill. IE: If you choose a medium fill, the machine will start agitating after filling to small, then continue to medium while agitating. When set to "extra fill" what in fact happens is a first overflow wash for 1 minute.
Eddy
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Post# 3010-7/23/2001-05:30 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: DADDoes: Our chat we had (Maytag Auto-Dry)
MESSAGE: Glenn, Unfortunately, I don't have the technical expertise to use the proper technical part's name. That's why we'll have to wait for the more technically astute members of the group to fully answer this. But, I've seen this happen on 4 "Auto Dry I" Kenmores, 1 Whirlpool Dryer-Miser, and 2 Maytag Auto-Dry dryers. The timer never advances during the auto dry cycle and just keeps "cooking the clothes" as one owner put it to me. There's a part that's now mmalfunctioniing that doesn't get the timer going again during the auto dry cycle that's not needed for timed dry cycle simply because the timer stays on always for that cycle.
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Post# 3011-7/23/2001-06:24 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Robert, Thanks for the pics. The pulsator washer is probably worth a fortune to a collector of really early washers. The top of the agitator in the Water Witch looks an awful lot like a Speed Queen. The Drum in the 63 Norge was like new. Amazing. Thanks again, Tom
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Post# 3012-7/23/2001-06:32 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Bob, you have the period right for the Westy ovens, mid to late 60s. A friend's parents had a set. The side swing doors are a real disaster. First, they have to be opened all the way back to pull out a rack or to get anything that involves reaching in with both hands. You have to be very careful in leveling the oven and avoid bumping into the door as you reach in so that the door has no tendency to swing closed because it will bring the hot inner surface in contact with your arm or body as you reach into the oven. Can you imagine what you have to do to broil? Tom
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Post# 3013-7/23/2001-07:00 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: DADDoes: Our chat we had (Maytag Auto-Dry)
MESSAGE: Glenn, One of the big problems with the Halo of Heat dryers with time-temp auto dry was that with a long vent or an obstructed vent the high limit thermostat, which had to be set pretty low with the heat source so close to the clothes, would cycle before the operating thermostat. In those dryers, the hi limit would run the timer motor just like the operating thermostat, causing the timer to run out before the clothes were dry. Many people had to set it for two or three cycles to get dry clothes. That coupled with the anemic burner made for slow drying inthe gas version. In most dryers, the safety or hi limit has to be able to shut it down before dangerous temps are reached, Cu used to test that and as an extra safety measure, WP made gas dryers have an additional hi limit on the blower houseing as well as on the burner stack. In a dryer full of dry clothes, which is when the temp would really soar, it does not take long at full heat input to trip a hi limit thermostat. When the auto dry does not cycle the timer, it is generally a faulty contact so that the operating thermostat is not able to get the timer motor circuit to close and make it move. Tom
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Post# 3014-7/23/2001-07:07 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Washing In The Garage
MESSAGE: Greg, I have one of those Dynamo cups also! Wehn I used a Speed Queen, the over flow at the end of wash usually sent all the suds bye-bye. Did the filter stir up lots more suds than the washer would usually make so that they persisted through the overflow? I have one of those scoop and sling filters for the WP machines. What is all the hardware on the top of hte filter? Thanks for the show. Tom
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Post# 3015-7/23/2001-07:41 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Washing In The Garage
MESSAGE: This was a lot of fun last night, I hadn't seen an older style SQ for years and I needed it after 5 days of family in town! Not a lot of suds were present until the overflow started. That filter certainly played a major role in that - water was splashing and the suds were churning. The hardware on top is a slide clip to hold the filter or dispenser down so it doesn't float during overflow.
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Post# 3016-7/23/2001-12:00 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Tom, that "Pulsator" washer was really interesting. You must have had to lift the pulsator up and out to remove the clothes, since it comes way up (not short ups and downs like a Frigidaire) and I'm thinking the clothes must get underneath it. I'm glad Robert plugged it in. In addition to the two wringer washers there was also a Whirlpool belt drive automatic (complete with a bed of nails lint filter that had never been cleaned). However, the pulsator washer was still in front of the sink, and the end of the cord was tied via coathanger to the light socket, making me wonder if she still sometimes used it.
It is interesting to hear that Norge dryer dated. We were thinking late 50s since the timeline control was slightly different than on Robert's washer, but I had not realized that style had continued into the 60s.
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Post# 3017-7/23/2001-12:00 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Dishwasher pictures (AEG)
MESSAGE: No Greg, the dishwasher is an AEG. It's almost a TOL model, there is only one model that is more expensive. It's very silent. Yes, all my appliances go with me to the upstairs apartment. What is best is that I have there the ability to stack my dryer on top of my washer.
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Post# 3018-7/23/2001-12:07 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Dishwasher pictures (oven)
MESSAGE: Your Majesty,
As I already explained in my message to the Corn Princess the dishwasher is an AEG. The cooker is a separate unit, they are quite common overhere in the Netherlands. Most of the time they are placed on counter high fridges. I have a fridge with a bottom mount freezer. On top of that is my Sharp convection microwave oven. That is where I bake my cakes in.
QLOTOC
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Post# 3019-7/23/2001-12:07 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Dishwasher pictures
MESSAGE: Thank you Bob, I guess we are all waiting to see the pictures!
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Post# 3020-7/23/2001-12:09 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Washing In The Garage
MESSAGE: Greg, I really enjoyed your pictures. That is one of my favorite SQ machines and I'm glad you're bringing it along. That's the first time I've ever seen that lint filter being used with one like that. Scott
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Post# 3021-7/23/2001-12:12 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Dishwasher pictures (cool)
MESSAGE: Peter, these kind of cooktops are most of the time placed on top of small fridges. That combination is quite common in Europe. It's an arrangement for small kitchens. When I bought a dishwasher (also an AEG) I had no room left for my range, so the cooktop came in and the convection micro wave oven came on top of my bottom mount fridge.
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Post# 3022-7/23/2001-12:20 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Tom, thanks for the reminders. However, I got to experience all those cautions 1st-hand at my friends house. I mean, when you encounter something a litle bit unusual, I'm right there in the kitchen wanting to "help" so I can check things out.
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Post# 3023-7/23/2001-12:22 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Washing In The Garage
MESSAGE: Thank you Greg, really cool pictures. This Speed Queen is one of my favourite washers. I love the filter drama.
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Post# 3024-7/23/2001-12:23 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Washing In The Garage
MESSAGE: Eddy, I'm sorry you can't come. I hope we meet on a next occasion. Louis
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Post# 3025-7/23/2001-12:51 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Scott, I am sorry. I was meaning to reference the photo number. I am sorry if I said 1963 when I meant photo 63. Bad brains at work. I was thinking 63 and must have thought the year. Sorry. That dryer is older than 63 as you said, more like mid-late 50s, but such a well preserved drum, no discoloration or chipping, especially in a gas model. Did anyone look under the pilot access door? If it had a big red lever for the input valve, it was more mid than late 50s, I think. Older Norge dryers only had heat and air settings, but the deluxe ones had the variable input that enabled you to indirectly regulate the temperature by how high a flame you had. If you wanted a really low dry temp, you could set the flame so low that the operating thermostat would almost never trip. Tom
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Post# 3026-7/23/2001-13:58 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Washing In The Garage (Hi Louis)
MESSAGE: Yes, I hope so too. Perhaps if I can make a European trip, the Netherlands will be definite stop on my list! I am really glad you're able to visit America and I know you will be fascinated with all the vintage machines you'll see "live".
Eddy
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Post# 3027-7/23/2001-14:55 ||| GOLITTLESPORT (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Washing In The Garage
MESSAGE: Very cool pictures, Greg. Thanks for posting. That Speed Queen filter is great...I like how the water squirts from the outer edge of the filter bowl into the center. Most burp-up filters I've seen work the opposite way.
Rich
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Post# 3028-7/23/2001-15:30 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Louis, this was Neal's first Estate Sale Saturday trip. Usually he has his saturday's are pretty full, be he decided to see what all the saturday excitment was about.
And yes you should move to minnie!
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Post# 3029-7/23/2001-15:31 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The "Dennis" cartoon (June's WS-60 Frigidaire )
MESSAGE: That Leave it to Beaver episode feature a bottom of the line 1960 Frigidaire Multimatic Washer, model WS-60.
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Post# 3030-7/23/2001-15:32 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Dishwasher pictures
MESSAGE: Louis, those knobs look like there is a cooktop on top of the dishwasher, what's up with that?
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Post# 3031-7/23/2001-15:38 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Washing In The Garage
MESSAGE: Great Pics Greg!! How fun, I can't wait to see the Speed Queen in Person. We'll have to find a spot to hook him up for the convention, space is at a preimum as you well know.
What did Jack get himself into, did you put him in the Duomatic to get him all clean and dry?
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Post# 3032-7/23/2001-15:40 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: That first Pulsator washer was $5.00, but I didn't want to deal with moving the thing right now with all the work I'm doing for the upcoming convention.
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Post# 3033-7/23/2001-15:42 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: That was picture #63, not 1963, I believe that Norge Dryer to be from around 1958.
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Post# 3034-7/23/2001-16:50 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Washing In The Garage
MESSAGE: How I know about being short of space - and you have 4 times what I do! If we are using cold water anyway, we could run the SQ and the Economat out in the garage too. I did notice a wee puddle at the front of the A49 this morning when I was going through the garage to get to my van (no room inside you know!) I'm betting it's the lid switch opening in the drain tub, or the top seal of the drain tub.
Jack has been digging and decided it would be fun to dig in a puddle after I watered. I cleaned him off with a hose outside, he's slated for a bath tonight anyway - maybe he'll be the second load in the A49! Just kidding!
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Post# 3035-7/23/2001-20:29 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: Chat Room Address
MESSAGE: I posted it under the Member Links section.
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Post# 3036-7/23/2001-22:52 ||| appliguy (Vienna Va.)
SUBJECT: RE: The "Dennis" cartoon (Momma's family)
MESSAGE: I remember watching Momma's Family after it went into syndication and here were the differences that I noticed. One Aunt Fran who was played by Rue McClalahan(sic)was killed off (Rue was doing Blanche on Golden Girls by that time). To replace her they had Bubba Higgins come to live with his grandma when his mother Eunice moved to Florida. There was also the addition of Beverley Archer as Iola Boylan Thelma's neighbor from across the street. As for appliances in the kitchen the only change I saw was the deletion of the GE Mobile Maid dishwasher. To my knowledge Thelma Harper always had a Kenmore washer AND dryer nop Frigidaires.
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Post# 3037-7/23/2001-22:55 ||| appliguy (Vienna Va.)
SUBJECT: RE: The "Dennis" cartoon (the name of the show is Family)
MESSAGE: The show you are thinking of was called Family and it debuted in 1976 and it was the TV show that made a star of Christy McNichol. It also starred Meredith Baxter Burney.
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Post# 3038-7/23/2001-23:07 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: The "Dennis" cartoon (I loved "
Family"
)
MESSAGE: Who was the brother on that show - always thought he was dreamy.
I'm glad to know what the washer and dryer were after all these years - I longed for a close up shot of that laundry room the whole time the show was on.
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Post# 3039-7/23/2001-23:07 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Jetcone's museum
MESSAGE: I was just looking at your museum pictures, especially the 1950's Consumer Reports Lab shot. I didn't know Maytag had Neptunes in the 50s.
hehe :-)
Great collection!
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Post# 3040-7/24/2001-11:45 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: The "Dennis" cartoon (I loved )
MESSAGE: I believe his name was Gary Frank.
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Post# 3041-7/24/2001-12:26 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: The "Dennis" cartoon ("
Family"
1976 TV series)
MESSAGE: See link.
LINK: http://us.imdb.com/Title?0073992
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Post# 3042-7/24/2001-12:35 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Dishwasher pictures
MESSAGE: Robert, I guess by now you must have read post 3021.
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Post# 3043-7/24/2001-12:42 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Dishwasher pictures
MESSAGE: Yup, thanks Louis, I should have read ahead.
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Post# 3044-7/24/2001-16:33 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Pulsamatic
MESSAGE: Robert,
Have you had a chance to properly evaluate the Pulsamatic, and see how much work it will take to have it running for Convention?
-ph
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Post# 3045-7/24/2001-20:10 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT: someone enlighten me
MESSAGE: Who if anyone still makes ironers in the us? How much? What voltage? How big? Any Maytags for sale?
SD
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Post# 3046-7/24/2001-21:04 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: Loved the picture of the day.
MESSAGE: Hi guys, Anyone know what year the Duomatic in the picture of the day came out. That is the one our neighbor had. I did love that machine. I can still hear the sound it made when it went into the spin cycle. The controls were on the right front side with a lid that you lifted to access them. Thanks for any insight. Terry
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Post# 3047-7/24/2001-21:40 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Loved the picture of the day. (Duomatic)
MESSAGE: Terry That is a 56 Duomatic & it was only manfactured for 1 year I think. Someone please correct me if I am wrong. I own a Equator - and I love combos. I wish the real Bendix was still around.
Peter
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Post# 3048-7/24/2001-22:52 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Loved the picture of the day.
MESSAGE: 1956 - a very good year!
Here are the scans of the 1956 Bendix Sales Facts - everything you ever wanted to know about the Duomatic!
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Ads+Articles+Brochures&.src=ph&.dnm=56+Bendix+Duo+1.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Ads%2bArticles%2bBrochures%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 3049-7/24/2001-23:03 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Loved the picture of the day. (Duomatic)
MESSAGE: You are right, this model was only in production for one year. In 1957, there were two Duomatic models; the TOL was the one Bing Crosby advertised with the slide-rule controls and the next model down had 3 dials at the back of the top panel.
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Post# 3050-7/24/2001-00:49 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: RE: Pulsamatic
MESSAGE: Robert I have a Repair-Master book for Pulsamatic/Unimatic machines if you need any info.
jay
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Post# 3051-7/25/2001-05:44 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Loved the picture of the day.
MESSAGE: Thank you Greg! Tom
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Post# 3052-7/25/2001-07:40 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Pulsamatic (Stradford Yellow DW right now, Pulsa next)
MESSAGE: No not yet, although Jetcone and I replaced the leaking tranny together, in that machine, at the Boston Wash-in '97, so I know its in generally good shape mechanically. The timer needs replacing (I have a new one) and tub needs to be replaced as its rusting on the bottom, the water valve and flume also need work. I've been working on the Stradford Yellow 1956 Frigidaire DW for the built-in see-thru dishwasher at convention, but that should be finished tonight and installed so I hope to move the Pulsamatic downstairs tonight to begin work tomorrow night.
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Post# 3053-7/25/2001-07:41 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: someone enlighten me
MESSAGE: I seriously doubt anyone makes ironers anymore Scott, at least domestic ones.
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Post# 3054-7/25/2001-07:44 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Pulsamatic
MESSAGE: Thanks Pumper, but I have a library full of that stuff that, I've been collecting it since I've was 9 years old.
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Post# 3055-7/25/2001-08:15 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: Maytag dryer time temp auto dry correction
MESSAGE: I knew I had everything wrong when I could not then explain how other dryers shut off on the safety thermostat. I am sorry for all the wasted verbage. Here is what I believe is correct after checking with John. Maytag HOH dryers did not have a three wire hi limit thermostat. When the operating thermostat failed, the dryers would continue to run until rescued, cycling on the hi limit. Other dryers like WP, have a 3 wire hi limit so that it will energize the timer motor and turn the thing off. The Maytag HOH dryers would shut off with wet clothes if the vent was too long or obstructed because the run time in the auto dry cycle was too short, just about 11 minutes, which would work, if everything was optimum about the installation and the load, but if the operating thermostat cycled a few too many times because the air flow was reduced, it activated the timer motor, as it should, but the timer did not have enough run time to compensate for the cycling because the thermostat was in that heavy blower housing behind the drum and did not cool down quickly enough to get the heat back on and the timer motor stopped. Sorry again. Tom
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Post# 3056-7/25/2001-08:32 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Loved the picture of the day.
MESSAGE: Anytime! The scans are a bit crappy, but it's all there. I also have some sales lit. from 1957 that was put out very soon after Bendix appliances div. was taken over by Philco. The pages have PHILCO added in black letters - printed right over the Bendix logo and the address and company info is blacked out. I'll get those online when the library features are up and running on the club later this year.
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Post# 3057-7/25/2001-08:57 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Loved the picture of the day. (Duomatic)
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg for the real great reading
This would be a real rare find being it was only made for 1 year.
Peter
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Post# 3058-7/25/2001-09:59 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: POTD I was moist and trembling
MESSAGE: That washer just made me have the evil fear of wanting something than needing it ... I want one of those models
I love the POTD its the way I start out my morning and its great thanks so much UNI for webmastering the site my hat is off to you for such a responsibility I hope it never becomes a hassel to ya. You provide the avenue for such enjoyment and fellowship.
And the convention not many organizations could call thier convention International
thanks to everyone on here that makes this site fun
Philippe
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Post# 3059-7/25/2001-10:44 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: someone enlighten me
MESSAGE: Overhere in Europe there are still a few brands that make them. Miele, Hanseatic, Edy and Pfaff are the brands that I can think of now.
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Post# 3060-7/25/2001-11:22 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD I was moist and trembling
MESSAGE: Thanks Philippe, its my pleasure. Actually its very easy to run the site as long as we don't have server crashes and lose stuff like we did a few weekends ago, the hard part is writing the code for new stuff, that will come in the fall.
Yes the convention will be International and that sooo exciting. I can't wait to meet everyone and put a face to all these screen names, with so many digital cameras flashing in the group we'll have 100's of pictures to remember the festivities by.
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Post# 3061-7/25/2001-11:37 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Machines Running at the Convention
MESSAGE: Here is a list of what is hooked up and will be running during the convention (not all at once of course):
Automatic Washers:
1. 1955 Westinghouse L-8
2. 1956 Norge Timeline
3. 1949 Maytag AMP
4. 1947 Bendix Deluxe Model
5. 1949 ABC-O-Matic
6. 1951 GE
7. 1958 GE Filter-Flo
8. 1957 Frigidaire Control Tower Unimatic
9. 1947 First Frigidaire Washer - Unimatic
10. 1955 Frigidaire Imperial Unimatic
11. 1955 Frigidaire Deluxe Pulsamatic
12. 1958 Frigidaire Custom Imperial Unimatic
13. 1966 Frigidaire Coin-op Super-Duty
14. 1962 Hotpoint Coaxial
15. 1957 Lady Kenmore Washer
16. 1953 Baby Kenmore Washer
17. 1952 Whirlpool
18. 1959 Philco Automagic Washer
19. 1961 Speed Queen Washer
20. 1953 Bendix Rubber Tub Washer
Combos:
21. 1958 Whirlpool Combo
22. 1959 Philco Duomatic
Dryers:
23. 1951 Bendix Gas Dryer
24. 1957 Control Tower Filtrator
25. 1955 Westinghouse D-8M
Dishwashers:
26. 1956 Frigidaire DW (White in Kitchen)
27. 1956 Frigidaire DW w/Clear Demo Door w/lighted interior(Stradford Yellow)
28. 1959 Frigidaire D&M DW with clear-top lid.
Wringer washers:
29. 1940's See-Thru Maytag
Scott's:
30. 1960 Frigidaire 4-Speed Multimatic
Did I miss anything?
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Post# 3062-7/25/2001-12:14 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Pulsamatic (Stradford Yellow DW right now, Pulsa next)
MESSAGE: Uni thanks for all you hard work in preparing for the invasion. I wish there was something I could do to help. I'll just keep sending positive vibes & thoughts.
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Post# 3063-7/25/2001-12:20 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Machines Running at the Convention
MESSAGE: Kelvinator?
-ph
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Post# 3064-7/25/2001-13:05 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Machines Running at the Convention (The Krusher)
MESSAGE: When I found the ABC, that old rusted Aberdeen Farm Kelvinator was sent to the krusher, I did save all the internal mechanism parts as they were in good shape and can be used someday for the ABC.
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Post# 3065-7/25/2001-14:07 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Machines Running at the Convention
MESSAGE: Wowie Zowie! What a show! I can't wait!
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Post# 3066-7/25/2001-14:27 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Machines Running at the Convention
MESSAGE: Robert,
What a wonderful list that is. Thank you for putting all the energy in the convention.
Louis
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Post# 3067-7/25/2001-14:59 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD I was moist and trembling
MESSAGE: That is the model washer that washed diapers and playclothes for myself and two of my three siblings. It was still going strong 28 years later under the tutelage of my grandmother.
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Post# 3068-7/25/2001-15:56 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Machines Running at the Convention (Crystal Clear Dishes and Clothes Line)
MESSAGE: YAY, my pleasure Louis, it will be worth every bit of it. Oh before I forget, Greg is bringing up clear glass dishes (thanks Greg), after we eat and snack on Friday evening during the first wash-in, we can wash the crystal clear dishes in the see-thru dishwashers, the interior light bulb will shine right through the dishes making for quite a lighted splash show!
Greg also had the wonderful idea of bringing a clothes line and clothes pins, so we can string up the clothes line in the backyard for some real vintage drying!
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Post# 3069-7/25/2001-16:49 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Machines Running at the Convention (Crystal Clear Dishes and Clothes Line)
MESSAGE: That's fabulous! I was going to suggest putting up the clotheslines. The see thru d/w and clear dishes will be a lot of fun too! When I saw you were going to hook up the machine downstairs, I had forgotten all about the clear door you found.
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Post# 3070-7/25/2001-17:00 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: Twin-tub Wringer
MESSAGE: My special friend Debbie, who does web design, was meeting with a client and found this. She graciously and thoughtfully snapped a pic of it.
Can anybody shed some light on what is the brand and vintage, and what, if anything is unique or special about it?
LINK: http://users.wcnet.net/dadoes/PintailHuntingClub_beer-cooler.jpg
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Post# 3071-7/25/2001-17:12 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Twin-tub Wringer
MESSAGE: Glenn, I remember seeing some advertisements for this type of machine made by "Dexter" from the late 40s/early 50s. This one looks like it might be slightly later, but I'm not really sure of course. Kind of an interesting concept...glad she took the picture!
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Post# 3072-7/25/2001-17:40 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Loved the picture of the day. (Duomatic)
MESSAGE: 1956 & 57 Duomatics are all I need to complete my Bendix made Duomatic set!
Such dreams, such dreams.......
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Post# 3073-7/25/2001-17:52 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD I was moist and trembling (Come to the convention!)
MESSAGE: The first time I saw Robert's (Uni) basement, I was in stunned awe for the first hour I was there. To see, touch and run these vintage machines was, for me, like a dream. It was difficult to take it all in. Robert made it so fun to experience all the machines, I'm sure the convention-ers will remember it forever.
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Post# 3074-7/25/2001-17:55 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Machines Running at the Convention
MESSAGE: How about the Frigidaire range (54?) and the Amana Radarange?
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Post# 3075-7/25/2001-18:05 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Twin-tub Wringer
MESSAGE: Dexter made the twin tub washers. I believe Philco bought Dexter and in the mid to late 50's Philco and Dexter top load automatic and wringer washers were essecially the same. During this time period there was a Philco twin tub wringer manufactured also. That machine looks like a late 50's model, so it's a toss up whether it's a Dexter or a Philco.
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Post# 3076-7/25/2001-20:58 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: Thanks Greg and Peter
MESSAGE: Greg and Peter thanks for the information on the Bendix Duomatic. I thought it was around 1956 that our neighbor got hers. I have been hooked on front loaders ever since. I use to set right in front of that machine and watch it go through all its cycles. Still remember the red light that indicated washing and then it switched to the blue one for drying. That was some machine. Just to bad there isn't anything out there today that even comes near its quality. Greg I really enjoyed the sales fact sheets. Thanks again. Terry
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Post# 3077-7/25/2001-21:01 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: Great line-up
MESSAGE: Robert and Scott, it sure sounds like you are busy getting ready for the big event. Thanks so much for putting so much effort into it. I know it will be like a dream come true. Scott we appreciate all your efforts too. Terry
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Post# 3078-7/25/2001-21:30 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Machines Running at the Convention
MESSAGE: Haven't I seen pictures of the following? Are they still there, but won't be connected/running?
1. Hoover TwinTub
2. Suzy Homemaker
3. A tabletop washer
4. Kenmore Combo
5. A GE dryer
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Post# 3079-7/25/2001-22:27 ||| mooney6au (Sydney, Australia)
SUBJECT: POTD
MESSAGE: Robert,
I missed the POTD that everyone is raving about (Duomatic. Is there anywhere we can view past POTD.
By the way - it sounds like the convention will be terrific fun and so well organised. Sorry I can't make it.
Greg
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Post# 3080-7/25/2001-22:37 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Great line-up
MESSAGE: Thank you Terry. Robert has put a tremendous amount of effort into making this website and our gathering a reality. I'm glad I've been able to help with some of the various details, and I'm very pleased that some folks will be able to visit my place too and see what I have collected. Part of the fun of having all this stuff is to be able to share it with other people who enjoy it too.
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Post# 3081-7/25/2001-22:48 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Machines Running at the Convention
MESSAGE: Yes those will be plugged in too.
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Post# 3082-7/25/2001-22:50 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Machines Running at the Convention
MESSAGE: The Hoover Twin Tub's pump assembly isn't working properly, the Suzy Homemaker I've never tried, I do have a 1970's Rival Harvest Gold Table Top Washer which we can play with, the Kenmore Combo has gone to John E's house in West St.Paul as it was too late for my collection, the GE dryer hasn't been restored yet.
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Post# 3083-7/25/2001-22:52 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD
MESSAGE: Sorry Greg, that's the beauty of the picture of the day, if you miss it you have to wait around for it to randomly come up again.
I'm sorry you can't make it to the convention Greg, maybe another time!
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Post# 3084-7/25/2001-23:18 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Machines Running at the Convention (I could bring)
MESSAGE: my Whirlpool Design 2000 but it's too heavy to bring on the plane.
I hope you all have a great time. I wish I could be there :-( . Wash a load in the Lady Kenmore for me.
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Post# 3085-7/26/2001-04:28 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT: RE: someone enlighten me
MESSAGE: Robert & Louis
Thanks for the info. I dont know why I ahd it in my head that someone still made them in the US.
SD
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Post# 3086-7/26/2001-05:33 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Machines Running at the Convention (vintage drying)
MESSAGE: I give to one and all my entire share of vintage clothesline drying. I had to work many years to get a dryer in my parents' house, mainly because my mom did not want one. I hope all y'all who enjoy it get to do it. I have even heard of people who like to be tied up and whipped. To each his or her own.
Tom
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Post# 3087-7/26/2001-07:24 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: someone enlighten me
MESSAGE: Miele sells one in the American market, I have a brochure but I don't know how much - probably a lot! There are also several brands of ironing systems out there, but these are more the hand-held type with water tanks for constant high volume steam.
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Post# 3088-7/26/2001-08:09 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Jetcone's museum (Thanks Jasonl!)
MESSAGE: Glad you enjoy that "sepia touch" as well. I'm planning a convention up here in the future you'll get to play with them as well!
jet
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Post# 3089-7/26/2001-08:11 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: someone enlighten me (Expo Sells Ironer)
MESSAGE: Scott: Expo sells an Ironer that is made in Germany by Bosch or Miele, which I can't remember right now. Check them out.
jon
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Post# 3090-7/26/2001-08:20 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Twin-tub Wringer (Dexter Flap-a-Matic??????)
MESSAGE: Go:
You mean to say that there maybe a Dexter labelled flapper washer out there somewhere? Amazing! I'd love to find that machine!!!
jet
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Post# 3091-7/26/2001-08:39 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Jetcone's museum (I wish)
MESSAGE: Problem is: I live so far away for you all but maybe one time I'll be able to see those old washers. My friends think I'm weird already because I travel all over to ride roller coasters, now to wash clothes in an old washing machine? hehe.. gotta love it
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Post# 3092-7/26/2001-10:59 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Machines Running at the Convention (Crystal Clear Dishes and Clothes Line)
MESSAGE: It all sounds like great fun. BTW, I understand you didn't have a clothesline in the backyard yet?
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Post# 3093-7/26/2001-11:08 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: someone enlighten me
MESSAGE: Probably a lot. Overhere they are already horribly expensive, around $1000.-, so they will be even a lot more in the US.
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Post# 3094-7/26/2001-11:10 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: someone enlighten me (Expo Sells Ironer)
MESSAGE: Bosch stopped making them so that will probably be a Miele, but there are more European brands. Or might it be that there still is a US brand we have overlooked?
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Post# 3095-7/26/2001-11:55 ||| jaxcubb (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Are these world washers?
MESSAGE: How is a top load machine able to dry the clothes?
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Post# 3096-7/26/2001-12:57 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Machines Running at the Convention (Crystal Clear Dishes and Clothes Line)
MESSAGE: Of course not silly, what would I use it for?
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Post# 3097-7/26/2001-12:59 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Are these world washers?
MESSAGE: I think "Dry" means spin, just like it used to.
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Post# 3098-7/26/2001-13:11 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Machines Running at the Convention (Crystal Clear Dishes and Clothes Line)
MESSAGE: To hang your laundry out, once a year, silly! You can make wonderful pictures of it, silly! Also to show your neighbours that you have the whitest whites of the whole neighbourhood, silly!
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Post# 3099-7/26/2001-13:33 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Machines Running at the Convention (machines first!)
MESSAGE: Now, now, all you sillies... Leave Robert alone... You purist can hang a clothesline if you like when you get there. Robert needs to concentrate on his machines and other important automated details for the convention. Hanging out your whitest whites must take second place to washer drama, so leave Robert to his machines...
-ph
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Post# 3100-7/26/2001-14:45 ||| jaxcubb (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Are these world washers?
MESSAGE: Ah! Thanks Uni!
:-)
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Post# 3101-7/26/2001-15:47 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Machines Running at the Convention (Drama - Drama - Drama)
MESSAGE: Hmmph, see all you sillies, take that! thank you Peter.
Speaking of Drama, the Frigidaire DW is completed and installed, I ran quite a few dish-loads through it with the clear demo door using 75watt "Rough Service" light bulb, and it worked perfectly. Sometimes standard light bulbs would shatter during the rinse cycle.
Now on to the Pulsamatic, I moved it in, changed the tub, fixed and siliconed the fill flume to the outer tub. Tonight I need to change the timer and re-build the water valve, it should be up and running by the weekend! Picts to come.
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Post# 3102-7/26/2001-16:26 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Fastest spin ever?
MESSAGE: Which washing machine had the fastest spin ever? And what were the rpms? I'm guessing the Unimatics (1140 rpm yikes!). Right? Fisher/Paykel and Frigmore are 1000.
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Post# 3103-7/26/2001-17:22 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Fastest spin ever?
MESSAGE: I think Frigidaire and a certain early model of GE are tied for the fastest spinning TOP loaders (1140) but there are of course frontloaders today that do spin faster. As far as I know, Miele's 1600 RPM is currently fastest, unless that has been circumvented by their latest European models, which tend to be a step ahead of the American ones.
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Post# 3104-7/26/2001-17:56 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Twin-tub Wringer (Dexter Flap-a-Matic??????)
MESSAGE: Hi Jet
No, I didn't explain that very well. The Dexter and Philco automatics that were very similar were ocillating agitator machines. The Dexter automatic was gone by the time Philco introduced the flapper agitators in the latter 50's.
Go
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Post# 3105-7/26/2001-21:28 ||| jetcirclefill (Pensacola, Fl)
SUBJECT: RE: someone enlighten me (Ironrite)
MESSAGE: Scott, Don't settle for anything less than an Ironrite. The best ever made. Still have all the books on my model 88&95c and the parts lists. In 1985 I could still get one from a company in Pittsburg for $460. I'll try to call tomorrow to see if they are still around.
Tom
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Post# 3106-7/26/2001-21:52 ||| jetcirclefill (Pensacola, Fl)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (Hoover)
MESSAGE: Scott, Have a model 575 w/attachments and the original bag much like the one you got. It was my Grandmother's. Purchased as a 12 month lease from Gimbel Bros. in Phila. Nov. 14 1931. I have the lease form in front of me. It cost $67.45. $6.25 down,$5.10 mo. for 11 mo. with a further payment on Nov. 22,1932 of $5.10 for the option of purchase. Still works like new. She had the Hoover man pick it up every year to service it. I have some old hand cleaners in need of a good home if you are interested.
Tom
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Post# 3107-7/26/2001-22:02 ||| jetcirclefill (Pensacola, Fl)
SUBJECT: Savamaid&Conlon
MESSAGE: I saw ads on eBay for Savamaid washers&ironers and Conlon ironers,washers&dryers. Never heard of those before. Sorry I can't join in all the fun at the convention:(
Tom
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Post# 3108-7/26/2001-23:26 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: The Pulsamatic Pulsates
MESSAGE: And what a show this machine puts on! Talk about energetic agitation...
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/frigidaire1140/vwp?.dir=/The+Pulsamatic&.src=ph&.dnm=10+Now+Thats+an+Agitator.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/frigidaire1140/lst%3f%26.dir=/The%2bPulsamatic%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 3109-7/26/2001-00:00 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: The Pulsamatic Pulsates
MESSAGE: Great pics Robert and nice job on the machine! That agitator is a monster, wow! It cracked me up to see the towels plastered to the side of the machine after the spin cycles. I can't imagine what they look like in the 1140. How does the pulsmatic do as far as quality of wash? How were they rated back in the day?
Todd
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Post# 3110-7/26/2001-00:11 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: The Pulsamatic Pulsates
MESSAGE: Such a cool machine - can't wait to see it in action!
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Post# 3111-7/26/2001-00:16 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The Pulsamatic Pulsates
MESSAGE: Interesting! You had explained that the mechanism is different than a Unimatic, and funny how even the fill stream is even in a different place! Even 660 is still better than so many other machines we all know of!
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Post# 3112-7/26/2001-00:20 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (Hoover)
MESSAGE: How interesting, so she was actually "leasing" the cleaner until she made that last payment. Even though that was a lot of money at that time, what a wonderful value for a cleaner about to celebrate its 70th birthday!
I wasn't originally all that enamored with pre-war machines, but I have 4 of them now and they really are wonderful, beautiful cleaners. Scott
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Post# 3113-7/26/2001-01:36 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: RE: The Pulsamatic Pulsates
MESSAGE: what a beauty! where did you find it and was it a bargain?
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Post# 3114-7/27/2001-04:39 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT: RE: someone enlighten me
MESSAGE: Thanks you guys for all your help and info. I'm considering one because my hubby likes his shirts ironed. I thought it would be nice to shove it thru and have it done in one shot instead of pushing an iron. I ware uniforms all week and my company pays for laundry service. But if they are too expensive or too big then its back to pushing that rowenta.
SD
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Post# 3115-7/27/2001-05:38 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: The Pulsamatic Pulsates
MESSAGE: Robert, do you see any structural/mechanical reason why the fill flume had to be repositioned in this machine from the center back position in the Unimatic? Was there a possibility of excess splashing with the fill stream hitting the flat Bakelite ring of the personal massager agitator or something?
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Post# 3116-7/27/2001-06:07 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: someone enlighten me (mangling shirts)
MESSAGE: Take it from one who has ironed shirts on a mangle, it is not pushing it through in one shot and being done with it. The shirt has to be ironed in sections, basically in an order so that sections currently being ironed do not crush or wrinkle sections already ironed. Collar first, then the yoke across the shoulders, cuffs, sleeves, back, front. Depending on the ironer and the size of the shirts there are alternate ways of doing the sections and all ironing involves having damp, clammy items draped over your lap, hands and arms. Many involve using either end of the shoe on the Ironrite or starting a section through then hitting the break and raising the roll to reposition and restart and remembering which knee stops the roll and which knee lowers, starts and raises it. It is work, although there is an element of challenge that makes it interesting at first and you have to keep a sprayer bottle of water close at hand to wet down heat set wrinkles that you did not mean to let happen. The sessions are accompanied with muttered or shouted imprecations and you will want to have a very good air conditioner or fan close at hand. Even with the Ironrite's roll turning away from you to release the steam at the back of the roll instead of in your face and the hot shoe below rather than above the roll, there is a lot of heat given off. The shoe is a sizeable piece of chromed cast iron heated by a 1400 or so watt open coil element that you can sometimes see glowing if you get down on the floor and look up in just the right places. It is a fiercely beautiful piece of equipment much like a steam locomotive and from about the same period. Both are exciting unless you have to use them all the time. Tom
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Post# 3117-7/27/2001-07:49 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: someone enlighten me (mangling shirts)
MESSAGE: I tried a shirt on my 1947 Ironrite one time, just for fun. After I finished, I held it up to admire my handiwork and then dropped it back into the washer to be ironed again later with the Rowenta! To do a few shirts at a time, the ironer isn't something that would be time or energy efficient either. It takes 10-15 minutes to heat up the cast iron plate.
I have a friend with a 50's Kenmore mangle and of the two, the Ironrite is far superior in quality and design. The lower plate and forward moving roll do help to keep the steam away from your face and hairdo, but it's still hot work. If you are tall, make sure you allow for a way to raise the ironer so that you can get your legs under it comfortably to operate the knee levers. You get the hang of the operation fairly quickly, but it takes practice and skill to manage shirts, pants and ruffled blouses.
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Post# 3118-7/27/2001-08:24 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Savamaid&Conlon
MESSAGE: Who made the Conlon brand? I saw an ironer on Ebay from Conlon, but don't recall ever seeing the laundry equip.
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Post# 3119-7/27/2001-08:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: The Pulsamatic Pulsates
MESSAGE: Is the pulsamatic pulsator ring smaller than the unimatic pulsator?
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Post# 3120-7/27/2001-08:29 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: The Pulsamatic Pulsates
MESSAGE: OMG!!! I really can't wait to see this machine! Robert, about the water level...is it between the 2 rings? I thought it got above the top ring for that "lint chaser" action, but it appears to be in between. Was it higher on later models? And was this the initial wash, or did you change the rusted tub out already?
-ph
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Post# 3121-7/27/2001-08:31 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Machines Running at the Convention (Drama - Drama - Drama)
MESSAGE: Oops... I posted before reading... Great job, Robert!!!
-ph
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Post# 3122-7/27/2001-08:43 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The Pulsamatic Pulsates
MESSAGE: Hi Todd, Consumer Reports and Consumers Research Bulletin never tested a Pulsamatic, so who knows what they would have found, not that they would have been completely accurate anyway. The turnover is slower than in a Unimatic, but like the Unimatic and other 2 and 3-ring agitator washers, the turnover is continuous (unlike most other top-loaders). As for its cleaning ability, the jury is still out!
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Post# 3123-7/27/2001-08:44 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Convention reality!!!
MESSAGE: Those of you making the pilgrimage... Do you realize that we are about to see three of the rarest washing actions left on the Earth today? The centric ABC, the Automagic, and the Pulsamatic? It just now struck me how lucky us laundrophiles are to know Robert and for him to be so hospitable and gracious to invite us to his home to experience his collection. I'm just sitting here in awe. Thank you so much Robert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reservation cut off for convention is Tuesday, July 31st...
-ph
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Post# 3124-7/27/2001-08:44 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The Pulsamatic Pulsates
MESSAGE: Jay, I traded a 1949 Unimatic for the 1955 Pulsamatic with Jetcone Jon.
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Post# 3125-7/27/2001-08:58 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The Pulsamatic Pulsates (Fill Flume and Binding Tranny)
MESSAGE: I really don't see a good reason for moving the location of the fill flume Tom. It is quite puzzling actually. While there might have been some splashing on the upper bakelite lint chaser ring, it would have be very easy for the designers to direct the flume straight down in the front, like they did in the ’57 and ’58 Pulsamatics and Unimatics. I’m not sure of the construction of the ’56 Pulsamatics, but they look similar to the ’55. Has anyone ever seen a ’56 Pulsamatic?
There is still one problem with the machine. The transmission seems to be tight when starting to turn counter-clockwise for agitation. Sometimes it starts to agitate normally all by it self, other times it gets stuck and just buzzes so I have intervene and pull the agitator up to get it to start pulsating. Once the machine gets itself pulsating, it runs fine without binding for the rest of the wash or rinse period. I have a feeling that the Spherical bearing in the lower transmission housing is tight and binding. I don’t have the time right now to go in and take the machine entirely apart to replace that bearing, so over the weekend I’m going to try an experiment. The way the machine is wired there is a capacitor in series with the clockwise start windings in the motor to give it an extra boost of power to get the tub spinning. I’m going to try and wire in another smaller capacitor in series with the counter-clockwise start winding to give the motor an extra power-charged boost to get the agitation started. I’ll keep everyone posted, this 30 minute repair hopefully will prevent a 12 hour repair.
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Post# 3126-7/27/2001-09:00 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The Pulsamatic Pulsates (back assward)
MESSAGE: Yes they are reversed for some strange reason that I can figure out. On the Unimatic & Multimatic the Lint Chaser is the smaller ring, on the Pulsamatic the Lint Chaser is the larger ring.
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Post# 3127-7/27/2001-09:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The Pulsamatic Pulsates
MESSAGE: No in most 2 and 3 ring agitator washers, by the end of the wash cycle before the overflow rinse, the water level drops off slightly because of the water currents rising up and out of the exit holes in the tub.
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Post# 3128-7/27/2001-09:06 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!!
MESSAGE: Thanks Peter, its my pleasure. Half the fun of having this collection is sharing it with others who enjoy and appreciate these machines. We are so few and far between, there is going to be soooo much energy and excitment during the convention that its too bad we can't capture it and convert it to electricity, we could probably power the Northern Plains for the next six months.
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Post# 3129-7/27/2001-09:15 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The Pulsamatic Pulsates (Rusted Tub)
MESSAGE: Oh, I forgot to mention that I changed the the rusted tub before the first wash.
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Post# 3130-7/27/2001-10:11 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: someone enlighten me
MESSAGE: Scott, I think there's a bit more to it than "shoving it through and doing it in one shot" but my understanding is that once you have acquired the skill you can quickly breeze through your ironing duties with a barely a lock of your coiff out of place when you're finished! And what fun to have such a device to enjoy in your home! It would be great of course too for table linens and any number of other things.
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Post# 3131-7/27/2001-10:44 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: The Pulsamatic Pulsates (fill flume)
MESSAGE: That is an intersting point, Tom. Did you notice that the tub sits a bit lower in the machine also? On the Imperial model, the fill hose goes up into the control panel and the flume drops down from there, giving that waterfall-type fill down into the tub. On the 55 Pulsamatic model the fill shoots across the tub, like an old Hotpoint's fill. It doesn't seem to be angled down very much. My guess is that you are probably right, the fill was moved to avoid the agitator. And the tub was probably lowered to accommodate the fill flume, since this model did not have a raised control panel.
Rich
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Post# 3132-7/27/2001-11:08 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Fastest spin ever?
MESSAGE: Your Majesty,
We think Jason was talking about toploaders. However in the meantime we have seen in the stores here both the AEG and Miele models that spin at 1800 rpm. Quite a Royal Speed we think.
QLOTOC
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Post# 3133-7/27/2001-11:14 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: The Pulsamatic Pulsates
MESSAGE: That is 11 pulses in one second!!! Cool. Your whites look white enough to hang outside LOL.
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Post# 3134-7/27/2001-11:20 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!!
MESSAGE: Peter, you just said it all.
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Post# 3135-7/27/2001-11:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: The Pulsamatic Pulsates (back assward)
MESSAGE: Sorry, I should have said the energy ring - the bottom rubber cone. Is the Pulsamatic smaller than the unimatic's 3 ring?
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Post# 3136-7/27/2001-11:36 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: The Pulsamatic Pulsates (awesome awesome awesome)
MESSAGE: I really wish I could join the fun but unfortunately I can't. Heck I don't even own a classic appliance (well, if you consider that rusted GE dryer classic) and the first Whirlpool D/D (Oooooh!) which will soon be a Fisher & Paykel or a Frigidaire 1-18 (if I can find one)
The pulsamatic looks wonderful.
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Post# 3137-7/27/2001-11:42 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: someone enlighten me (I could take in ironing!)
MESSAGE: I see them in the thrift stores all the time here - usually for $10 or so. I've seen a Maytag, Hotpoint and three or four Ironrites in the last few months. I'm sure you see them at sales all the time too. I paid way too much for my Ironrite at $18.50, but it was in beautiful condition and had a porcelain top. I haven't used it in months - maybe a year. Tom was right that they are exciting, but not if you had to use it all the time. When you open the top and unfold all the work tables, it's absolutely enormous and you need room around you to have your basket of ironing, basket for finished work and preferably, if doing shirts and items you wish to hang, a rod or bar. It's quite a production to iron this way. The other reason is that I don't use a lot of linens that require ironing very often, so it's easier with the very vintage Rid-Jid ironing board and a good steam iron.
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Post# 3138-7/27/2001-11:48 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!!
MESSAGE: You better pick up smelling salts Robert!
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Post# 3139-7/27/2001-12:19 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: someone enlighten me (I could take in ironing!)
MESSAGE: If when ironing shirts I need a bar, I just better not iron then. I can imagine the damage I would inflict on myself or the shirts after a couple vodka & 7up's... Maybe if Rod was there to keep me from inebriating myself...
-ph
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Post# 3140-7/27/2001-12:23 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: The Pulsamatic Pulsates (fill flume)
MESSAGE: OF course, the mechanism was probably shorter too, enabling the tub to sit lower.
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Post# 3141-7/27/2001-12:36 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: someone enlighten me (I could take in ironing!)
MESSAGE: You're right Greg, hardly a week goes by that we don't see at least one ironer, almost always an Ironrite, so people must have been aware of their superiority. I had not realized how popular these were until I started going to sales.
To iron a shirt here and there or whatever I'm sure the iron and board is fine, but I'm betting these things were real lifesavers for women whose husbands wore dress shirts every day, then there's the sheets, table linens, on and on and on...my mom used to do some just about every day during soap time; that was her best hope of keeping at least somewhat on top of it, and my grandma often helped too.
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Post# 3142-7/27/2001-13:01 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: RE: The Pulsamatic Pulsates (awesome awesome awesome)
MESSAGE: Jason we're in the same boat. i finally found a 1-18 in an appliance graveyard that they thankfully restored to operating condition. half the fun is looking for them. you never know what you'll see around the next corner in the thrift store!
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Post# 3143-7/27/2001-13:12 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The Pulsamatic Pulsates (Showing off my whites to the neighbors)
MESSAGE: That's OK Louis, no need to hang those white clothes outside, whenever I get the urge to show off to the neighbors how white my whites really are, I just strip down to my underwear and open the blinds.
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Post# 3144-7/27/2001-13:13 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The Pulsamatic Pulsates (back assward)
MESSAGE: Nope, the Pulsator or Energy Ring are exactly the same part # between the two machines.
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Post# 3145-7/27/2001-13:33 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: someone enlighten me (The Iron From Hell)
MESSAGE: I‘ve probably ironed about five times in my entire life. The last time I ironed (and that will be the last time) was when we were going to the opera (the opera wasn't my idea, but there's that compromise thing boyfriends have to do) I wanted to wear a particularly wrinkled shirt. So I plugged in my 1953 Sunbeam Ironmaster Steam Iron, to warm it up for a few minutes, unfortunately the thermostat is out on the thing and it only runs at high, but that would do for this shirt. We'll I decided after all that the shirt wasn't that wrinkled anyway and if anyone thought my shirt was too wrinkled for the opera they could bite me.
So we arrived at the opera and just as the curtain goes up it dawns on me that I never went back down to the basement, to turn off the ironmaster and I'm like thinking to myself "oh my god I left the iron on and it only runs on high". It’s a 1953 iron, long before they had automatic safety shutoff’s!!!! During the whole first and second acts I was going crazy thinking over and over again about all the possible scenarios, where the ironing board could catch fire and what it could do and how it the fire could spread. Finally the intermission came and I quickly called home, since the answering machine had picked up I felt reasonably sure that house hadn’t burned down, unless of course there’s nothing left but the little phone table and the answering machine in the middle of this smoldering rubble. We got through the third and fourth acts, at the end of the fourth act of this opera I wanted to stand up and yell to the star “Lady would please die already and put all of us out of our misery”, as she had been dying since the first ten minutes of the thing anyway. Finally she plotzed and we got to go home and there was the iron red hot on the ironing board, with not even a brown scorch mark on the ironing board cover. Whewww!
Moral of the story, use the Wrinkles Away Setting on the dryer, it’s a lot less nerve racking.
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Post# 3146-7/27/2001-22:21 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: someone enlighten me (What Opera?)
MESSAGE: What opera did you attend?
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Post# 3147-7/28/2001-02:26 ||| spiralator60 (Los Angeles, California)
SUBJECT: RE: The "Dennis" cartoon (Kenmore and Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: I respectfully differ on this issue. Let me direct your attention to a 1983 cast photo for the "Momma's Family" show, located at www.angelfire.com/tv2/mamasfamily. The photo in question is in "The Pic Gallery," on the third row down, the fourth frame from the left. (This is between a picture of Allan Kayser on the left and Vicki Lawrence on the right.) The full citation for this location is www.angelfire.com/tv2/mamasfamily/newmamapics20_.jpg. I tried to post the link to this area, but the link returned an error message when I attempted to access it, so this is the reason that the instructions for getting to this picture have been typed out.
The photo is taken from an episode in which Betty White appeared as daughter Ellen, during its run on NBC. In the picture, the cast is standing in the kitchen behind the table, in front of the wall where the GE Mobile Maid dishwasher would normally be placed. To the extreme left of the cast, Betty White in particular, is the refrigerator. Directly behind Miss White and the attractive gentleman next to her is the service porch area, which appears to lighted apart from the darkened area where the group is standing. Just behind Miss White's right shoulder is a view of the dryer, with a center drop-down door. I agree that this is most likely a Kenmore, the date of is hard to determine from this view. To the left of this machine is a view of a unit, more than likely a washing machine, with a control panel similar to the 1961 Frigidaire Custom Imperial Washer featured in the 7/25/01 Picture Of The Day.
The NBC episodes of the program (1983-1985) along with the episodes created after the show left the network (1986-1990) are currently being shown Monday through Friday, on the TBS Superstation, at 11 AM EDT.
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Post# 3148-7/28/2001-02:54 ||| spiralator60 (Los Angeles, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Loved the picture of the day. (The Duomatic Connection)
MESSAGE: On "Father Knows Best" Margaret Anderson had a pair of Bendix machines, a washer and dryer, which looked similar to this particular Duomatic, located in a room just off of the kitchen. There was a particular episode of the show "Margaret's Other Family," from the fourth season (1957-1958), there was a scene where she (Jane Wyatt) was seen loading the machine and tilting back the cover to set the controls for the washer, while talking to her husband Jim (Robert Young). Most other episodes offered a brief glance of these machines, when characters entered and exited a door to the outside next to the machines. In earlier seasons, the washer, a Westinghouse, was seen in a smaller area against a wall behind the counter where the sink was located. The larger, remodeled area appeared during the fourth season. In the two reunion TV movies, some twenty years later, the laundry room contained a single machine, a coppertone Kenmore combination washer-dryer.
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Post# 3149-7/28/2001-03:10 ||| spiralator60 (Los Angeles, California)
SUBJECT: RE: The Pulsamatic Pulsates (Pulsamatic Questions)
MESSAGE: These are fantastic pictures, Robert! A few questions:
1. Is the capacity of the tub of the Pulsamatic, more or less than the Unimatic? Does it use more or less water than the Unimatic?
2. How long did the cycle run for the load that you posted the photos?
3. Except for the Energy Disk, is the agitator one solid piece?
Thanks for sharing the photos!
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Post# 3150-7/28/2001-03:35 ||| spiralator60 (Los Angeles, California)
SUBJECT: RE: The Pulsamatic Pulsates (Correction)
MESSAGE: Many apologies! In the previous post I meant to say "Energy Ring." I was still thinking about the Bendix machine of another post.
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Post# 3151-7/28/2001-04:15 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: The Pulsamatic Pulsates
MESSAGE: Yet another fantastic machine!!!
I am so glad I found you guys, I have discovered so muh about washing mahcines I never knwe before. Something new and exciting all the time.
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Post# 3152-7/28/2001-04:17 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: Maytag Twin Tub
MESSAGE: I found this on ebay. It is similar to the Hoover twin tub, except that it has TWO impellers on the side!! What a tangled mess washing must be in that machine!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1257557438
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Post# 3153-7/28/2001-06:09 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: Today's POTD
MESSAGE: Now THAT's my kinda washing machine. One built for a MAN. Where are the MEN doing the wash. Bring on da BEARS!!! LOL
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Post# 3154-7/28/2001-08:05 ||| SCOTTDAMIT (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT: RE: someone enlighten me (mangling shirts)
MESSAGE: Tom
I didnt know it was quite so involved. I've never used one. I've only heared people such as you guys talking about them. Maybe I should stick to the steam iron.
sd
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Post# 3155-7/28/2001-08:54 ||| Scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The "Dennis" cartoon (Kenmore and Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: In all events, I'm going to check out those pictures! I had no idea that show went back that far, or that Betty White or Rue McClanahan were a part of it!
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Post# 3156-7/28/2001-08:57 ||| Scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Twin Tub
MESSAGE: Our fellow club member, Greg (Gansky) has one of these Maytag twin tub machines! Scott
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Post# 3157-7/28/2001-09:52 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Twin Tub
MESSAGE: Actually, the tangling isn't too bad. The two impellers run in the same direction for 30 seconds, then stop, reverse and run the other direction for 30 seconds. This reversing continues for the amount of time selected on the wash control dial. Surprisingly, it's quite an effective washer and an admirable spinner as well. I don't have the matching dryer now, had one years ago and it wasn't too bad either for a 115V machine.
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Post# 3158-7/28/2001-09:54 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: The Pulsamatic Pulsates (Showing off my whites to the neighbors)
MESSAGE: I didn't see that on the agenda for the convention! Should we bring lawn chairs?
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Post# 3159-7/28/2001-19:16 ||| appliguy (Vienna Va.)
SUBJECT: RE: The "Dennis" cartoon (Ok I was mistaken I can accept that......)
MESSAGE: I looked at the Mama's Family cast picture and I stand corrected. Thelma did indeed have...(sob)...A FRIGIDAIRE WASHER!!!!!! (giggle)
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Post# 3160-7/28/2001-21:39 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: someone enlighten me (What Opera?)
MESSAGE: La-bo-em
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Post# 3161-7/28/2001-21:41 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The Pulsamatic Pulsates (Pulsamatic Questions)
MESSAGE: To answer your questions Sprialator:
1. Is the capacity of the tub of the Pulsamatic, more or less than the Unimatic? Does it use more or less water than the Unimatic?
They use the same tub and same 28 gallons of water per load.
2. How long did the cycle run for the load that you posted the photos?
30.5 minutes
3. Except for the Energy Disk, is the agitator one solid piece?
Yes, its made of bakelite
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Post# 3162-7/28/2001-22:28 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Estate Saleing in Rual NE - What would you do for a Bendix?
MESSAGE: Myself, Skyler and a friend hit the open road for sales today as there were none in town to speak of. We drove first to Fremont, NE about 30 miles northwest of Omaha. We hit a couple of sales and a Goodwill store and then took the long way home and hit some thrifts in other towns along the way. One thrift store in Tekamah, NE was already closed when we got there, but I knew the appliances were in the back and I had to pee anyway! When I peered through the back windows I saw a familar round porthole door on one machine. Thankfully, I'd already peed so I skipped over to the video store next door and asked if they knew how to get ahold of the thrift shop owners. The kind lady punched up their video membership on the computer and called them for me. I explained what I wanted and another kind lady told me they live upstairs and would be right down to let me in. It's a fun store, but I flew to the very back and moved some boxes from the top of my new 1953 Bendix Dryer! We cut a deal and I loaded her up.
I was so hoping it was a washer, but the dryer is very nice. Someone has painted the drum, but it's not too bad. When I turn the drum by hand, I can hear some fan bearing work is needed. I've not tested it otherwise, probably won't for a while. There are several machines ahead of it, but at least I won't have to make any tough decisions for a while - my basement is full already! We had a very fun day and plan to do some more small towns when sales in the city are dry.
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/surgilator/lst?.dir=/Estate+Saleing+In+Rural+NE&.view=t
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Post# 3163-7/28/2001-22:36 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Saleing in Rual NE - What would you do for a Bendix?
MESSAGE: Congrats on the Bendix find today Greg! You're right the dryer looks very much mechanically like our '51 Bendix dryers. Does the timer have a wind-up style clock mechanism like on our '51 dryers?
Nice to see you in the picts today too!
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Post# 3164-7/28/2001-23:11 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Saleing in Rual NE - What would you do for a Bendix?
MESSAGE: it's beauuuuuutiful! looks like new!
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Post# 3165-7/28/2001-23:48 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: The Pulsamatic Pulsates (Showing off my whites to the neighbors)
MESSAGE: Greg, just remember you're gonna have to bring a pair of binoculars for me so that I can have equal opportunity viewing.
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Post# 3166-7/28/2001-23:50 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Saleing in Rual NE - What would you do for a Bendix?
MESSAGE: Timer is the same - tick, tick, tick
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Post# 3167-7/28/2001-01:05 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Louis---Translation Please
MESSAGE: Check out this cool spinner I found on Ebay - from 1957! Can you translate the text? Wouldn't this be cool to have in a collection!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1170309799
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Post# 3168-7/29/2001-02:38 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Louis---Translation Please
MESSAGE: Hello Greg, I guess you have been browsing a little. The spindryer is a cool machine, but spindryers do not exactly excite me. This one is a special one though. It has a safety handle, which was not very common in the fifties. The pedal on the right is the brake. In the sixties the automatic brakes started showing up. Since it's German it's easy to translate for me:
Miele Stainless Stell spindryer from 1957!!! Still spotless Stainless Steel almost without rust (never heard of "Flugrost"!) Model number H.WaZ-2, Heighth 70cm (27½ inches)Cross-section (is that the word in US english?) 46cm (18 inches). The rubber ting on the lid starts to perish and besides that the cable was cut off by accident. But this appliance will probably anyway be used as a Museum piece (Tom!!) otherwise a new cable must be connected. This appliance is in such a good condition that the Miele museum was even interested if not the same model was already in their collection. One of the most beautiful INDUSTRIAL DESIGN MODELS from the post war era - anywhere else found?? Ship / Collect?
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Post# 3169-7/29/2001-02:49 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Louis---Translation Please (more)
MESSAGE: He has more in store!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1171513376
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Post# 3170-7/29/2001-05:46 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Saleing in Rual NE - What would you do for a Bendix?
MESSAGE: Greg,
When you said 1953 Bendix, my heart began to race. Sure enough, that machine was the exact match to the washer I grew up with. How cool. I am so happy for you! I am going to sent the link to my parents.
You didn't mention if the dryer was gas or electric.
I remember in the manual for the matching washer, there was a page towards the back advertizing the matching dryer. The slogan said, "It's always fair weather with a Bendix dryer. No more wind whipped laundry. No more lugging wet wash up the basement stairs...."
Steve 1-18
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Post# 3171-7/29/2001-05:50 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: The Pulsamatic Pulsates (Another event for the wash in)
MESSAGE: That gives me an idea for another event. The strip down to whatever and toss into a washer of your choise(should we run out of laundry)!
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Post# 3172-7/29/2001-08:10 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Saleing in Rual NE - What would you do for a Bendix?
MESSAGE: You guys will get so see my whites spinning under a Reflect-o-meter, we wont have time for any other show.
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Post# 3173-7/29/2001-09:27 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Louis---Translation Please
MESSAGE: I would like to have this in MY "hands on" museum, but alas, there's that pesky power issue again! I can understand how spinners wouldn't create much excitement since many European washers spin 2-3 times as fast as ours. I'm surprised more of these types of laundry gadgets haven't been more common here.
Thanks for the translation service!!
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Post# 3174-7/29/2001-09:53 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Saleing in Rual NE - What would you do for a Bendix?
MESSAGE: It's an electric dryer - I have some pictures from the 1953 introduction of the new line of appliances from Bendix showing this pair, now I must find the washer and I'll have the whole set - Duomatic, washer & dryer!
I gave the thrift store lady my name and number to call if any more gems show up. She still has a late 50's Norge gas dryer and a few old ranges. There was also a gold Mont. Wards dishwasher made by Frigidaire.
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Post# 3175-7/29/2001-10:12 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Louis---Translation Please
MESSAGE: You're welcome Greg. Energy has always been quite cheap in the US, so I think the Americans didn't bother with putting the laundry in a separate spin dryer (in several loads!) in order to shorten the time in the dryer. In the fifties people in Europe didn't have dryers, a lot of clothes were dried inside the house, so it was important to get them as dry as possible before they were hung up.
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Post# 3176-7/29/2001-12:41 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: Clothes Spinner in the US
MESSAGE: Has anyone been to the Spin-X site? Anyone have any experience with this device?
LINK: http://www.spin-x.com/index.htm
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Post# 3177-7/29/2001-13:31 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Clothes Spinner in the US
MESSAGE: Been there several times, but haven't tried one and definitely don't know anyone with one.
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Post# 3178-7/29/2001-14:48 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Clothes Spinner in the US (hmmm)
MESSAGE: The basket in the Spin-X looks very small. I wonder what's the REAL advantage in getting this over a 1000+ rpm washing machine (old Frigidaire, Frigmore, Miele, Fisher/Paykel, etc). The amount of g's that's exerted onto the clothes is what really matters.
There's a big thread about that on www.thathomesite.com's Appliance message board. There's a link to an online calcuator that gives you the actual g-force.
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Post# 3179-7/29/2001-15:16 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Clothes Spinner in the US (hmmm)
MESSAGE: I was the one who found the calculator on the net and posted it there. Actually we had quite a discussion about G-forces a while ago on the Yahoo club. If you have a washing machine that spins with a high speed there is not much sense in buying a spindryer. The spindryer might produce a little more G-forces, but somewhere the there is a stop to the gain. But if you own a traditional US toploader you can really save money with using a spindryer. Unfortunately I think the Spin-X-dryer is a little overpriced.
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Post# 3180-7/29/2001-16:11 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Clothes Spinner in the US (hmmm)
MESSAGE: My Maytag Porta-Wash twin tub washer has an excellent spin dryer, as did the Hoover twin tubs of days gone by. I've run towels and clothes through it before drying and measured the water pumped out after spinning in the top and front load washers I have. Makes a huge difference in drying time to remove another 1/2 gallon of water beforehand.
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Post# 3181-7/29/2001-21:29 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Nothing to write home to mother about this week sales, but the last house was certainly a site to see...
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/estatesale5/lst?&.dir=/Estate+Sale+Saturday+-+July+28+2001&.src=ph&.begin=9999&.view=t&.order=&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/estatesale5/lst%3f%26.dir=/Estate%2bSale%2bSaturday%2b-%2bJuly%2b28%2b2001%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 3182-7/29/2001-23:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Cool Amana find! Now you have one for using and one for parts, may have to start building some shelves in that attic this fall!
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Post# 3183-7/30/2001-02:38 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: POTD! -- first to see it!
MESSAGE: Yeeahhh!! I finally hit being the first to see one!
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Post# 3184-7/30/2001-02:39 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: that home site
MESSAGE: Has anyone read the outrageous comments made by "Hulley" on thathomesite regarding front loaders being junk?
He claims to be an appliance sales/repair man, but he seems to be a biased man with a horrible personality to boot.
Seriously, I dont always believe what appliance repair men say. My cousin was going to buy a front loader till some repairman told her that they are "harder to repair". So it may invovle some more work for him and parts may be more expensive. But I dont plan to live in fear just in case something "might" break down.
It remind me of people who drive 4WD's because they say they will be safer WHEN they have an accident.
What do you guys think?
BTW I love that home site. That is where I found out about the classic appliance club.
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Post# 3185-7/30/2001-02:41 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: POTD! -- first to see it!
MESSAGE: and Im the second!!
A westy to woo hoo! I know you guys hate this machine but it provided me with hours of ammusement when I was at my auntys house while my drongo cousin smashed the windows in the hospital accross the road!
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Post# 3186-7/30/2001-05:15 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: that home site
MESSAGE: I read his posts and took it with less than a grain of salt. However, have seen about 2 to 3 mentions of Frigidaire or Kenmores having bearing problems at age 3 or 4.
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Post# 3187-7/30/2001-05:37 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: someone enlighten me (The Iron From Hell)
MESSAGE: Robert, in 7th grade a girl brought in an iron that had been left on overnight and the aluminum soleplate had bubbled in the pattern of the heating element. You were very fortunate. After that kind of trauma, I would not iron again either. When I was a child, my mom had an iron short out while she was ironing. All of a sudden it was like there were these sort of orangey-blue flashes from the sides of it and then we had to change a fuse. Mom was upset that she had lost an iron, a sizeable investment at that time, and she still had ironing to do. I volunteered that she could heat it on the stove like in old days (this was way way before Teflon soleplates). She thought that was crazy, so I guess she was not that desperate to finish ironing. What was the opera, La Boheme? Tom
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Post# 3188-7/30/2001-06:02 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Loved the picture of the day. (Father Knows Best Bendixes)
MESSAGE: But I still maintain that I have seen episodes where there was a Bendix washer and dryer pair in the kitchen sort of across the set from the stove. They looked like Robert's dryer. It be neat for someone to sort of "redo" the show. The older daughter would be the one always working on an old car and would always want to be called "BA" for "Betty Anderson". She would tell her father, "I'm no princess," and Bud would say sort of under his breath, "But I am." Bud would always be doing the laundry and would make fabulous desserts every night and offer to share the recipes with the audience. Betty would still be beautiful and guys would come around looking for her. She would not be there or would be too busy to talk to them so Bud would offer the guy a piece of cake, get to talking with him and then they would go up to his room. TT
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Post# 3189-7/30/2001-06:17 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Saleing in Rual NE - What would you do for a Bendix?
MESSAGE: Greg, the thrift store lady was probably nice to you because she had just watched the little show you had put on at the back of her property. We have the matching washer to this dryer should you want a set, but it is in pieces. I like the little vases you found. What did poor Skyler do for fun? Tom
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Post# 3190-7/30/2001-06:22 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Louis---Translation Please
MESSAGE: Louis, I would not know how to buy something from Germany and I am not sure about the rubber thing on the lid that is starting to perish. Tom
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Post# 3191-7/30/2001-06:25 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: The Pulsamatic Pulsates (In the buff wash in)
MESSAGE: Why don't you stage this event with your MCC friends one Sunday night Steve?
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Post# 3192-7/30/2001-06:29 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Clothes Spinner in the US (spinners)
MESSAGE: For that type of spinning, you would do just about as well finding an old Hoover or Maytag twin tub at a thrift store or estate sale. You have to really pack the spinner with almost dripping wet clothes to get then to really pack well and spin most effectively. TT
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Post# 3193-7/30/2001-06:41 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Robert, do you suppose they actually sold that Maytag wringer for $75.00? Neat Kenmore stove. There was a little gizmo on the oven door at the handle that you could use to either open the whole thing or just the outer door. Did you look under the cover in the middle for the neat cooker? We have one of what went inside it. It is like a rectangular electric skillet with the cast in heating element. The whole thing plugs out for cleaning, which, unfortunately, the owners of ours did not do so well. What was the kitchen of the mansion like? Was the place as grand as that mansion you went to and saw the Hobart Commercial DW? It sure was beautiful. Can you imagine trying to heat that pile of rocks? Thanks for the pics. Tom
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Post# 3194-7/30/2001-07:27 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Who Wants to be a Frigidaire
MESSAGE: Big thanks to TomTurbo everyone for sending me this comic to share with the club...
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/tomturbomatic/vwp?.dir=/Appliance+Comics&.src=ph&.dnm=Who+wants+to+be+Frigidaire.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/tomturbomatic/lst%3f%26.dir=/Appliance%2bComics%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 3195-7/30/2001-07:46 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Saleing in Rual NE - What would you do for a Bendix?
MESSAGE: I thought of them seeing me from upstairs when I found out they lived right above the store! I seriously doubt it as the back of this place looked like a car salvage yard. Hold on to your pieces for the matching washer - someday when I have room and in the mood for a puzzle....
Skyler has a good time at the sales, usually there are toys of some sort around for sale, thrift stores usually have a whole section of them too. He's been going to sales since he was three years old - it's what's to do on Saturday!
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Post# 3196-7/30/2001-07:48 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Clothes Spinner in the US (spinners)
MESSAGE: If I'm taking that extra spinning step, I will spray them with a hose while I'm packing them in the spinner tub so they get that "extra rinse" too.
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Post# 3197-7/30/2001-08:22 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: that home site
MESSAGE: I have found that repair-personnel (the ones who don't appreciate appliances that is) discount a machine because its harder to repair. They couldn't care less about the performance, all that matters to them is how easy it is to repair it.
Frigidaire got a terrible rap from the 50's-70's because of this from repair people mainly because they changed designs quite often and as a repair person, you needed to keep up with your reading of the service manuals.
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Post# 3198-7/30/2001-08:24 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: someone enlighten me (The Iron From Hell)
MESSAGE: Yes it was La-Bo-em, La Boom, La Bottom, La Boheme something like that, all I remember of it was visions of the house buring down and the star who wouldn't die.
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Post# 3199-7/30/2001-08:29 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (a collection in every room)
MESSAGE: Since they don't sell wringers for $25 much less $75, I'm sure it didn't sell.
As for the Mansion, the house needed some work, but was beautiful on the inside. The appliances were all of the 70's and 80's era, nothing big and commercial like the Hobart. Around Lake of the Isles and other lakes in the city there are 100's of huge Mansions, we will take a quick driving tour of Lake of the Isles during Estate Sale Saturday of the convention. This house must have had at least 8 or more bedrooms, imagine what a collector could do with that. I could have a different collection in six of the bedrooms, vacuums, sunbeam, televison/radio room, who know what else?
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Post# 3200-7/30/2001-08:49 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Saleing in Rual NE - What would you do for a Bendix? (Bendix washer)
MESSAGE: Greg, it's not exactly a puzzle, it's just that the weights have been removed to make moving easier. Tom
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Post# 3201-7/30/2001-08:56 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Clothes Spinner in the US (spinners)
MESSAGE: Greg, makes great sense to me. And all my extra rinse water sure has made my trees grow and they rewarded me by greatly increasing the shade on the front side of the glass room where the sun used to shine in so much on summer mornings. Tom
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Post# 3202-7/30/2001-08:58 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: someone enlighten me (The Iron From Hell)
MESSAGE: You should entrust a key to a friend who could have been called to turn off the iron.
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Post# 3203-7/30/2001-10:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Saleing in Rual NE - What would you do for a Bendix? (Bendix washer)
MESSAGE: Oh, that's not bad at all - would save on the moving weight and without the shipping straps, easier on the suspension system too. I was amazed (again) at how heavy the dryer is, that Duomatic was quite a bear going downstairs. My neighbor asked me if I wanted his '73 Whirlpool Mark 18 set last night - we walked over and looked at it, not really anything I'm interested in - too new, but pretty. We brought them over to the garage and I'll strip the control panels and a few parts, but the real reason I said yes was because he told me I could take my old machines to his dumpster at his shop (Heating and A/C company he owns) and save the fee at the recycler. That will be nice to have the free, 24hr. drop off, plus he told me that he and his guys are in a lot of basements and get asked all the time to haul away old washers and dryers. Might be a good source down the road, never hurts to have a friend in the HVAC biz either. I'll snap some pics and post them before I rip the WP set apart.
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Post# 3204-7/30/2001-10:53 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow
MESSAGE: Don't worry, I'll sacrifice myself. Give me the mansion!!
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Post# 3205-7/30/2001-11:15 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: that home site (anti-frontloader)
MESSAGE: I received my first negative comment about the Frigidaire front loader last night. This from a lady whose husband works for Frigidaire and gets her appliances for free. She just didn't think it washed good. She thinks it's small. Her clothes don't smell fresh after the cycle is over. She doesn't like bending over. The same old story. But she'll bring her family's wash to my store and do them in the double load Wascomats and think they hold more and do a fantastic job!
Some people... sigh!!!
-ph
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Post# 3206-7/30/2001-11:15 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Saleing in Rual NE - What would you do for a Bendix?
MESSAGE: Great find Greg! Nice ball too!
-ph
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Post# 3207-7/30/2001-11:31 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: that home site (Junk?)
MESSAGE: Mechainically a F/L (at least the Frigmore) is just a motor, a belt, and the drum.
A T/L (except Fisher/Paykel) has a motor, belt, transmission, agitator.
They all have a pump, hoses, valves.
Aside from Fisher/Paykel, Frigmores are very simple in design.
Another thought: If a seal busts on a T/L you now have 20+ gallons of water to deal with. On a F/L, it's less and since the seals for the tub are the door and the rear pulley, you shouldn't have a problem with a leakage unless a hose breaks and it still isn't as much of a disaster.
I decided. I'm getting a Frigmore. It's the most economical and it cleans better than T/L (except the old Frigidaire)
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Post# 3208-7/30/2001-12:13 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Saleing in Rual NE - What would you do for a Bendix? (Bendix washer)
MESSAGE: Greg, as far as I know the machine is complete. We have the weights, they are just not bolted in. Glad you have the HVAC contact. It also never hurts to have a friendly contact with a shop full of guys. TT
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Post# 3209-7/30/2001-12:16 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday Cybershow (Louis' Mansion)
MESSAGE: Funny Louis! It could be your castle. And you would have room for the ironer and the Hoover! TT
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Post# 3210-7/30/2001-12:18 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: that home site (anti-frontloader)
MESSAGE: Doesn't like bending over!!?? How vanilla.
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Post# 3211-7/30/2001-12:23 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: that home site (Junk?)
MESSAGE: Jason1, don't forget the motor controller boards. The newer machines have those, granted both the Frigimore and the FP as well as many others, but those little beasties and the motors they control are quite expensive, so it's not as simple as you made it sound mechanically. Whatever you get make sure you have a surge protector or lighting arrester on it so that a stray voltage surge does not fry your new treasure. Someone here on the club can tell you all about lightning damage. TT
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Post# 3212-7/30/2001-12:57 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Saleing in Rual NE - What would you do for a Bendix? ('73 Whirlpool Mark 18)
MESSAGE: Pictures! Pictures, please! Controls, interior, etc.
Thanks you kindly, sir.
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Post# 3213-7/30/2001-13:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Sharing Our Large Files
MESSAGE: While I know this isn’t appliance related, I wanted to let the entire club know about some of the relatively new Peer-to-Peer file sharing services on the internet. This information might be old news to some you guys, but this might work really well for us to share files across Applianceville, especially large video files.
You’ve all heard of Napster, which has now been shut down, but there are new free software programs that work in a completely different way that are not run by a specific company or internet site, but are run via a free program you download and launch. Once you download this software you get onto this special network that allows you to search for pictures, music, video, text documents and other types of computer media and download them to your own computer. At the same time others can download files from your own computer’s hard drive, in other words we are all sharing what’s on our hard drives.
To put this in plane English, here is how I believe this works, I might have the details slightly off and please correct me if anyone knows differently:
1. You download the Bearshare program and install it.
2. You run Bearshare and it reads your entire hard drive making a list of the file name of every video, picture, sound, graphic, photo, text file, etc on your hard drive. It takes this list and adds it to this huge database of files on the network as well as the address to your computer (so users can get a copy from anywhere in the world).
3. At the same time you get a search page which allows you to type in key words to search for specific words or phrases in file names on other people hard drives such as “Washer”, “Andrew Sisters”, “Frigidaire”, “Benny Goodman” etc.
4. You start your search and it gives you a list of all files in its temporary directory of users who are running Bearshare, at this very moment, that match a keyword you are searching for. So for example if I type Frigidaire and press enter it finds any files on any users hard drive that has the word Frigidaire (among any other word) in its file name.
5. You double click on the file, and a copy is downloaded to a special directory on your computer and you can view the picture, watch the video clip, hear the sound or mp3 song, etc.
I cannot tell you how many thousands of picture files were copied off my computer on Saturday by people from all over the world when I was experimenting with this software. 100’s of washer and estate sale pictures were uploaded by people with file names like “Kenmore Combo”, “Philco Automagic”, etc. I was shocked at the number of files users copied of my hardrive to view. In one case, quite a few people uploaded a jpg picture file that I had named “CUM”, which simply was the picture that Scott and I took during a rest-stop on the way to meet Greg in Iowa at the Kum&Go gas-mart. I’m sure they must have been very disappointed.
The Music industry is beside itself at the moment, because unlike Napster there is no way to litigate this out of the web because its not a web site, its using special free software. Once you have the software it will work by itself and there is not way to stop the sharing of files, music, video, washer splash shots and all!
It’s my personal opinion that the music industry should have spent all this money on Research and Development of a new type of digital music format that cannot be copied and not have spent all that money and time wasted on shutting down Napster via the court system. Now all that money and effort was for-not!
Do go to www.Bearshare.com and if your interested and download and play with the software, it’s a lot of fun and there’s plenty of fun things out there to share with each other.
LINK: http://www.bearshare.com
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Post# 3214-7/30/2001-13:05 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Sharing Our Large Files
MESSAGE: Robert, Bareshare is good, but I have had better luck with Limewire.
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Post# 3215-7/30/2001-13:06 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: that home site (Junk?)
MESSAGE: I wonder who that could be?
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Post# 3216-7/30/2001-13:17 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: that home site (Junk?)
MESSAGE: Someone with an electrifrying personality. TT
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Post# 3217-7/30/2001-13:19 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: that home site (Junk?)
MESSAGE: I had heard of Limewire too Jason and will have to give that a try.
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Post# 3218-7/30/2001-13:20 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Sharing Our Large Files
MESSAGE: Ooops that last post of mine was meant to be in RE to this post.
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Post# 3219-7/30/2001-13:31 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: that home site (surge protectors)
MESSAGE: Electrifrying as in electric chair or holding onto the main power line from the power plant while standing in a pool of water?
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Post# 3220-7/30/2001-13:33 ||| pumper (Phoenix)
SUBJECT: RE: Sharing Our Large Files
MESSAGE: I use Morpheus 1.3 from download.com. seems to work well for all types of media and is easy to set up.
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Post# 3221-7/30/2001-17:22 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Sharing Our Large Files
MESSAGE: Maybe I'm paranoid or overly cautious in light of CodeRed and all the other viruses and worms, but I really don't want the world-at-large having access to my hard drive. Too much potential for security holes in the sharing service/software. Even if it is read-only access, there are files and info that are nobody's business.
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Post# 3222-7/30/2001-17:50 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Sharing Our Large Files (Try WinMX)
MESSAGE: I've had lots of success using WinMX. I haven't tried looking for washer pictures but it works great for music.
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Post# 3223-7/30/2001-18:12 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Whirlpool Mark 18 Washer and Dryer
MESSAGE: Here you are WP fans - the TOL for 1973! This was my neighbor's set - he saw the Bendix dryer in the garage and I was working on the SQ A49 last night so he came over to offer them to me. I won't keep them, they've been "rode hard" and are way to new for my taste - I didn't ask what he bought for a new set, didn't really want to know! If anyone wants any parts from these let me know. I'll probably take the control panels and trim (they are lighted!) and the agitator off and maybe the dispensers. I don't need any of these parts either, but if anyone wants them.....
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Post# 3224-7/30/2001-18:12 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Mark 18 Washer and Dryer
MESSAGE: Crap! Here's the link...
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/helicaldrive/lst?.dir=/Whirlpool+Mark+18+Set&.view=t
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Post# 3225-7/30/2001-18:29 ||| rapidry1000 (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: New Whirlpool Front Loader
MESSAGE: Whirlpool will be introducing its version of the Kenmore front loader "conceived in Europe but built for Americans". The machine will have an "add a garment" feature that lets the user open the door while the wash cycle is in progress. The washer and dryer will be called the Duet and is slated to be available in California in September 2001. Price for the washer is $1,200 and the dryer will run approximately $800.
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Post# 3226-7/30/2001-19:12 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Mark 18 Washer and Dryer
MESSAGE: YeeeHawwww! Wonderful! I think that was the last belt-drive Whirlpool to have a 3-speed motor. 1974/1975 model, right?
What's with the Kenmore knob on the water level??
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Post# 3227-7/30/2001-19:15 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Mark 18 Washer and Dryer
MESSAGE: Ooooo, and I forgot the 3 tumble speeds on the dryer!
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Post# 3228-7/30/2001-19:18 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Mark 18 Washer and Dryer
MESSAGE: Ooopsie. Didn't see where you said 1973. My bad.
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Post# 3229-7/30/2001-19:53 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Mark 18 Washer and Dryer
MESSAGE: Greg, you should ask him sometime just for fun....I have a terrible feeling he bought a direct drive Whirlpool, but MAYBE he bought a Miele or something cool...if the other set was still working I'm not sure why he'd buy just another plain toploader, but who knows how people's minds work, LOL
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Post# 3230-7/30/2001-19:56 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Mark 18 Washer and Dryer
MESSAGE: Great pictures! That (was) a great set, too bad the insides are so worn. Silver anniversary...interesting. I didn't realize they were still doing the multi speed tumbling that late down the road.
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Post# 3231-7/30/2001-20:25 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Mark 18 Washer and Dryer (Whirlpool Set)
MESSAGE: Greg This is a beautiful set
Peter
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Post# 3232-7/30/2001-20:41 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Mark 18 Washer and Dryer
MESSAGE: I don't know for sure, but the owner said he bought them when they moved in the house in '73, but they may have been '74 models then.
I don't know what's up with that water level knob - probably as simple as "it works, and who cares anyway." This is a single guy (I don't think so...) and seems very nice, but absolutely uninterested in anything to do with laundry.
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Post# 3233-7/30/2001-20:46 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Mark 18 Washer and Dryer
MESSAGE: He seems more like a Hotpoint man to me....maybe Frigidaire t/l even. "Just give me a couple of white boxes to get the job done" would be more like it. Only got the new set this weekend and probably has already forgotten the brand!
Remember, we don't have a Miele dealer or service here.
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Post# 3234-7/30/2001-20:48 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Mark 18 Washer and Dryer (Whirlpool Set)
MESSAGE: You win! It's yours, come and get it!
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Post# 3235-7/30/2001-20:51 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Mark 18 Washer and Dryer
MESSAGE: What's the model number? LAA-9800? IIRC, that was the 1974/1975 designation, unless it was started for 1973. LDx was 1976, then LFx was 1977 (I think the LFA-9800 was the first electronic model), then LHx was 1978. After that they had to change the pattern, because "G" and "I" were used for something other than the year, and LJx had already been done (1962).
Or, I could be all wrong. 8-)
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Post# 3236-7/30/2001-22:01 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Mark 18 Washer and Dryer
MESSAGE: Being the Whirlpools are such deluxe machines and he not interested in laundry, I'm guessing he must have been married when he originally moved to the house.
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Post# 3237-7/30/2001-22:59 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!! (convention details)
MESSAGE: I'm a newcomer to the club! Just joined tonight. I'm very interested in the 'convention'. At this late date is there still time to join? Would love to know the dates & time etc. Thanks....Leslie
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Post# 3238-7/31/2001-05:37 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Mark 18 Washer and Dryer
MESSAGE: This was, to the best of even John's memory, the first WP machine to offer independent speed settings. It's a control panel worth saving. Thanks, Greg. Tom
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Post# 3239-7/31/2001-05:40 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Mark 18 Washer and Dryer
MESSAGE: Greg, PLEASE save all the linkage and the pulley from the dryer tumble speed control. It is a wonderful option. It actually keeps sheets from balling up. Thanks, Tom
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Post# 3240-7/31/2001-05:44 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Mark 18 Washer and Dryer
MESSAGE: Yup, this was THE Whirlpool washer & dryer pair TO OWN. A shame it was in the hands of someone who didn't truely appreciate its qualities and uniqueness.
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Post# 3241-7/31/2001-08:38 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Mark 18 Washer and Dryer
MESSAGE: I haven't opened it up yet, but I figured it must be some sort of pulley linkage that controlled the speed as the lever is "stiff" to move. That should be interesting to see. I'll also pull the motor from the washer too to keep with the panel.
In the background of the WP pics you can see the A49 opened up and in process. If not for the heat warnings every day I'd be done with it by now, but it should be done by the weekend.
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Post# 3242-7/31/2001-08:59 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!! (Convention Hotel)
MESSAGE: Hi Leslie, welcome to the club. Don't you work for Whirlpool or do I have you mixed up with someone else?
Here are the hotel details for the convention, I copied them from Post#414:
The convention is going to be held here in Minneapolis-St. Paul. The dates are Aug 17-18-19. I will be able to dig up all the details for you later but just to give you a head start here is the hotel information where everyone will be staying. Most of the activities will be held at my house (in the basement of course, except for when we're washing dishes!)
Holiday Inn - Minneapolis/Airport #2
5401 Green Valley Drive (Exit 7B off of I-494)
Bloomington MN 55437
You must say your are with the Classic Appliance Club group. Group rate is $79+tax/night
Reservation *must* be made directly with the hotel:
(952) 831-8000
Reservations must be made by August 1st. The special rate and room availability cannot be guaranteed after 8/1/2001.
Free airport shuttle. Free Mall shuttle. Indoor pool and fitness area.
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Post# 3243-7/31/2001-09:03 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!! (Latest Agenda)
MESSAGE: Leslie, here is the lastest and still tentative convention agenda:
SUBJECT: Convention Agenda
MESSAGE: Here is a new copy of the latest agenda:
Everyone is welcome to join the the "crowd" with any or all of the following activities or go off and do other things in the city on your own if you prefer.
Friday Afternoon, Aug 17:
Arrive in Minneapolis during the day, check into hotel.
Friday Evening:
6:00pm – 11:00pm Meet at Uni's for first of two “wash-in’s”. We'll order pizza to enjoy while we’re watching the washers run.
Saturday Aug 18
8:30am – Gather at Uni's for rolls and coffee.
9:30am sharp – We leave for the estate sales.
3-4:00 – Disperse for a few hours’ rest before the evenings’ activities.
6:15pm – Meet at Uni's to embark for dinner at Nye's Restaurant in downtown Minneapolis (approximately $30 per person)
9:00pm – 1:00am After dinner, back to Uni's for a late night wash-in.
Sunday Aug 19
10:00am – Check out of hotel if leaving on Sunday;
11:00am – Meet at the ????? Cafe at Mall of America, followed by a visit to terrorize the Sales People in the Appliance section at Sears at the mall. The mall is located relatively close the airport for those having afternoon flights out.
4:00-? – Open house at Scott’s apartment in south Minneapolis. Anyone staying until Monday or beyond is welcome to come visit, see my 60 Frigidaire and enjoy my vacuum and small appliance collections. It would be helpful to know an approximate number of people I might expect to visit during the course of the evening.
Monday Aug 20
11am - For those remaining on Monday, we can take a tour of Downtown Minneapolis and the Skyway system.
Weather:
For those wondering in August in the Twin Cities the average daily high temp is 84 (29C) and the average low is 63 (17C).
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Post# 3244-7/31/2001-09:07 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!! (Convention Hotel)
MESSAGE: Leslie, welcome to the club. Be sure and get your hotel reservation made by August 1st because after that date the rates skyrocket as people start booking rooms for winter in Minnesota. Sorry to give you such short notice, but summer is closing soon there. Tom
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Post# 3245-7/31/2001-09:17 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!! (convention details)
MESSAGE: Yes, I'm the one from Whpl. I'm gonna try like he** to come to your gathering.
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Post# 3246-7/31/2001-09:37 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!! (That's Interesting)
MESSAGE: Tom, that's an interesting observation that I never knew before. I don't understand why rates would skyrocket after August 1st as the first snow is at least 4 to 5 months away yet, and why would they be higher in the winter anyway? Did they tell you this when you booked the hotel?
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Post# 3247-7/31/2001-09:38 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!! (convention details)
MESSAGE: We'll we hope to meet you in a few weeks Magic Clean.
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Post# 3248-7/31/2001-10:17 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!! (convention)
MESSAGE: I'm coming!!!!! Can't wait to meet everyone and see the 'classics'! Got my plane & Holiday Inn reservations all set.
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Post# 3249-7/31/2001-11:17 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Transportation at the Convention
MESSAGE: I do want everyone to plan ahead with their transportation from the Holiday Inn Hotel to my House, Restaurants and Scott’s house for the events. Will the members who are renting cars please let the club know and how many people they will be able to fit in their vehicle as certain members will have cars and others will not.
How do you guys think we should handle this? Does someone want to take on the task of keeping a list of who is “assigned” to who’s vehicle for transportation. Do you guys want to just figure it out at the hotel, lets discuss this now so we can have this all sorted out long before anyone even arrives.
I’m just trying to think of every detail, lets discuss, what ideas do you guys have????
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Post# 3250-7/31/2001-11:22 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Link to MSP Weather
MESSAGE: While I know its still a few weeks away yet, but if you want to check our local weather forecast before you start packing this is a good link...
LINK: http://weather.startribune.com/weather/
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Post# 3251-7/31/2001-12:08 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Transportation at the Convention
MESSAGE: Good heavenly days, if I rented a car & tried to drive in Minnnie, the thought of the possiblity would clear all streets immediately for a month!!! People would go hide in their basements for safety.
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Post# 3252-7/31/2001-12:28 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Mark 18 Washer and Dryer
MESSAGE: Well, I think they're pretty neat to start a collection with. Bring them to the mansion!!!
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Post# 3253-7/31/2001-12:30 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Mark 18 Washer and Dryer
MESSAGE: I sure would want to know what he bought. Inquiring minds...
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Post# 3254-7/31/2001-12:55 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Transportation at the Convention
MESSAGE: We'll that's my point Appnut, some people feel very comfortable driving in an unknown city while other would not feel comfortable. But, we will have specific directions for those who are driving.
I'm throwing this out there because I want you guys to figure this out now to prevent any unnecessary confusion during the convention, so please lets discuss this, any ideas of how you guys want to handle this???
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Post# 3255-7/31/2001-13:09 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Transportation at the Convention
MESSAGE: I plan on renting a car. Living in Atlanta, I have absolutely no problems driving anywhere! I also have no problem playing taxi for people.
I expect the car that I rent to hold 4 people comfortably.
-ph
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Post# 3256-7/31/2001-14:36 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Mark 18 Washer and Dryer
MESSAGE: Nope. There were earlier models that had independent speed selection. Family friends had one with the flourescent light under the console, such that the light spilled across the lid and up through the buttons and timer, and the button arrays were horizontal, and it had three agitate speeds and two spin speeds.
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Post# 3257-7/31/2001-14:38 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Mark 18 Washer and Dryer
MESSAGE: The tumble speed control is a mechanical thing -- the motor itself is the standard 1-speed. The drive shaft is a cone or cylindrical affair, larger on one end, smaller on the other. The shifting mechanism re-positions the belt on the shaft.
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Post# 3258-7/31/2001-14:42 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Transportation at the Convention
MESSAGE: I will also need somebody to haul me around.
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Post# 3259-7/31/2001-14:52 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!! (convention)
MESSAGE: YAY, I'm so glad you're coming Leslie!!! It will be great to have someone here who actually works for one of the last original Appliance Companies in the US. What do you do for Whirlpool?
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Post# 3260-7/31/2001-16:14 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!! (convention)
MESSAGE: Currently; I represent the company in the Service training department. In our section (Kenmore group) we are responsible for our largest customer...Sears Roebuck. My region is the southeast U.S. Also, work with product engineering on a variety of matters. Enough about me.....I'm so thrilled to have the opportunity to meet others who share a 'passion' for appliances. It's gonna be a 'chatty cathy' talkfest and a dream come true!
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Post# 3261-7/31/2001-16:21 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!! (convention)
MESSAGE: Magic Clean, welcome to the club and glad you can make it to the convention. Since you're in charge of the Kenmore group, I'm thinking/hoping you might ship ahead a prototype Kenmore HE3T for us to try out and critique at the convention. What better audience in which to test a new product, right! :-) Scott
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Post# 3262-7/31/2001-16:52 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!! (convention)
MESSAGE: Welcome! Very glad you will be able to make to the convention too - make sure you bring your camera to have pics to show at work of Robert's incredible collection. New trainees would get a kick out of the early Whirlpool & Kenmore machines!
Welcome to the club too - as a welcome gift I have an early 70's WP Mark 18 washer and dryer (in a warm, cozy shade of harvest gold) to start your own collection?
Have a great day - Greg
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Post# 3263-7/31/2001-16:55 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Mark 18 Washer and Dryer
MESSAGE: The van will be full of appliances for this trip - when you finalize your mansion purchase, I'll be happy to bring them for you!
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Post# 3264-7/31/2001-16:56 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Transportation at the Convention
MESSAGE: I have made some arrangements with various people for their arrivals on Friday, and additionally, I can accomodate 3 other people besides myself for the estate sale caravan and to go from Robert's to the Saturday evening restaurant and back to Robert's. Since the vast majority of the attendees are staying at the same hotel, I'm hoping that pools can be formed from there to Robert's and from there to the Mall of America, and particularly to my home on Sunday, since I will need to go home after the brunch/Sears visit to prepare for everyone's visit.
I have a good feeling that everything will work out fine in this vein, but it might be good for everyone to kind of begin assessing the situation and who will have cars and who doesn't, so when it comes time we just focus on the fun! Scott
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Post# 3265-7/31/2001-18:05 ||| JasonL (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Woohoo?
MESSAGE: Is it too late to sign up for the Friday night wash-in? I can get to Minnie Friday morning so what would I need to do next? Does the airport have hotel transportation or will I be able to catch a ride with one of y'all?
I can only be there for the Friday night wash-in and I have to leave Saturday.
If anyone can help me out, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.
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Post# 3266-7/31/2001-18:13 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Woohoo?
MESSAGE: Jason, do you have a room setup for Friday night? If you're at the convention hotel I believe they have transportation from the airport to there and back, and I'm sure we can make arrangements for Friday.
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Post# 3267-7/31/2001-18:18 ||| JasonL (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Woohoo? (hotel)
MESSAGE: OK, this is the Holiday Inn? What's their phone number so I can reserve a room?
Thanks!
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Post# 3268-7/31/2001-18:22 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Woohoo? (hotel)
MESSAGE: Let me see if I can find it...you need to do this today as it is the deadline.
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Post# 3269-7/31/2001-18:23 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Woohoo? (hotel)
MESSAGE: Here is the info I pasted from a post yesterday:
Holiday Inn - Minneapolis/Airport #2
5401 Green Valley Drive (Exit 7B off of I-494)
Bloomington MN 55437
You must say your are with the Classic Appliance Club group. Group rate is $79+tax/night
Reservation *must* be made directly with the hotel:
(952) 831-8000
Reservations must be made by August 1st. The special rate and room availability cannot be guaranteed after 8/1/2001.
Free airport shuttle. Free Mall shuttle. Indoor pool and fitness area.
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Post# 3270-7/31/2001-18:23 ||| JasonL (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Woohoo? (ok thanks)
MESSAGE: What should I tell them when I'm making the reservation? That's it's for the Classic Appliances convention or whatever?
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Post# 3271-7/31/2001-18:28 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Woohoo? (ok thanks)
MESSAGE: yes, there is a note to that effect in the info I pasted into the email with the phone no.
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Post# 3272-7/31/2001-18:42 ||| JasonL (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: I am so screwed :-(
MESSAGE: I thought the event was going to be Aug. 24-26 not the 17-19. Well I have to go to a wedding on the 18th to videotape it. DAMN! I'll try to get out of the wedding but if I can't then screw me, I guess. :'-(
Now I'm really stressed out.
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Post# 3273-7/31/2001-18:59 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: I am so screwed :-(
MESSAGE: Good luck Jason, I hope maybe you will be able to arrange something.
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Post# 3274-7/31/2001-19:00 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Transportation at the Convention
MESSAGE: My van will hold 6 (7 with me.) I'll strategically pack the van with the two washers, extra seats, dishes and all the other things I'm bringing, but I plan on having the seating for 6 more for when we need it.
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Post# 3275-7/31/2001-21:13 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Cute song I found
MESSAGE: I was playing around with WinMX and couldn't think of a song to try to find so I typed "Washing machine". I figured I would find Sonic Youth but I found nice little ditty called "The Washing Machine". It sounds like a kid's song from the 50s, and furthermore, the chorus describes a Frigidaire washer.
The washing machine goes "wash wash"
the thing in the inside goes UP AND DOWN
it spins so fast it goes "wee! wee!"
When the lint pops out, my clothes are clean.
LOL!
When I finish downloading it, I can post it in my yahoo briefcase for you all to download. It's a riot!
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Post# 3276-7/31/2001-21:49 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: Welcome Magic Clean
MESSAGE: Welcome to the club Magic Clean. This is a really great group and I know you will enjoy it alot. Glad too that you are going to be able to come to the convention. Terry
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Post# 3277-7/31/2001-21:52 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Maytag Neptune
MESSAGE: This is kind of fun. I bet Bob will enjoy this!
LINK: http://www.livemanuals.com/partners/maytag/index.html?launchSim=yes
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Post# 3278-7/31/2001-21:53 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: Transportation
MESSAGE: I too will need transportation from our hotel. Thanks so much for any help you can give. Will be glad to share expenses for this. The excitement is really building. Terry
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Post# 3279-7/31/2001-22:06 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Neptune (How Fun!)
MESSAGE: Thanks Scott, I'm taking a break from moving appliances around in the hot garage. I love the sound of the washer running and clock ticking down the time. Of course there is no window in the washer, so no video of the clothes tumbling to go with that sound track is needed - saved money on web site graphics too. Buy stock in Maytag!
Very cool site - WP better get crackin' with theirs. They have a window too!
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Post# 3280-7/31/2001-22:49 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: that home site (anti-frontloader)
MESSAGE: The other comment about front loaders which I hate is that the cycles are too long. So? Do you sit there and wait for the whole cycle? (I do but thats another matter). Generally we wash at night and then hang the washing in the morning, so who cares how long it takes.
And as for bending over, my Mum uses a stick to get the clothes at the bottom of the top loaders, as she cant reach. A front loader on a platform has to be the best ergonmic arrangement for a washing machine.
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Post# 3281-7/31/2001-22:58 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: that home site (anti-frontloader)
MESSAGE: People tend to get off on some very weird tangents over there. Overall, it's a great site, but it has its moments when some people get on their soapboxes or start pushing rumors and ideas...
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Post# 3282-7/31/2001-23:36 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!! (convention)
MESSAGE: OOOOOH Leslie, I can't wait until we invatde Sears with between you, Turbo, & John. This should be interesting LOL.
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Post# 3283-7/31/2001-23:39 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Woohoo?
MESSAGE: Jason, I'm thrilled you are gonna be able to come for part of the festivities. Another face to put with a name, even for a brief short time.
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Post# 3284-7/31/2001-23:44 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Neptune
MESSAGE: Thanks Scott for thinking of me, but I did this fun exercise right after it showed up on their web site from work via a LAN line. It's a blast.
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Post# 3285-7/31/2001-01:09 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: that home site (anti-frontloader)
MESSAGE: some rumours like the one about a whirlpool front loader have come true however...
My favourote post was one guy who actually made an I hate Fisher and Paykel site!!!
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Post# 3286-8/1/2001-04:57 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Transportation at the Convention
MESSAGE: I will be driving in and as of now, plan on taking my car. There will be Rhinnie, Louis and me but can fit 3 more in my vehicle.
Steve 1-18
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Post# 3287-8/1/2001-05:32 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Mark 18 Washer and Dryer
MESSAGE: I don't doubt you, but it would be neat to know what year and model. WP was so into having the speeds in the timer even when Kenmore had some independent speed selections. The machine you saw must have been a similar TOL model with all those features. TT
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Post# 3288-8/1/2001-05:44 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Transportation at the Convention
MESSAGE: John and I will be renting something, probably a car that will hold two in addition to us. Tom
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Post# 3289-8/1/2001-12:07 ||| tucker (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Mark 18 Washer and Dryer ((Beautiful Set =) ))
MESSAGE: Wow now thats a whirlpool. Man if you were anywhere near san diego I'd replace my 75 top with the tops from those =)
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Post# 3290-8/1/2001-12:13 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: Whirlpool Mark 18
MESSAGE: I agree, that would have been the ONLY Whirlpool washer & dryer set to purchase. Everything else in the line just couldn't compete with that flexibility.
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Post# 3291-8/1/2001-14:18 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Read it and Weep Boys
MESSAGE: Transportation Update for the Convention:
TomTurbomatic has graciously volunteered to be the “Julie McCoy Transportation Cruise Director” at the Hotel for getting people organized and into a car to go to the events. You’ll recognize him as the guy with the clipboard in his hands, whistle in his mouth, 3-Ring Agitator on his head and a whip (and he's not afraid to use it, the whip that is).
Tom will need all of you guys to pitch in and help, to be patient and on-time. We’re not really sure if there is quite enough car space to handle everyone who has not rented a car. If you’re not sure if your renting a car, than please do rent a car. For those who cannot rent a car, we cannot promise you a ride to and from my house, but if there are any extra people left over, it would be very easy and cheap to share a taxi from the Hotel to my house and back again. So everyone will be able to get to the events, without any problems, we just cannot promise a seat with those who have rented a car.
Now with that settled I can get back to the more important duties of fine tuning and detailing the machines.
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Post# 3292-8/1/2001-14:19 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: The Opening Ceremonies of the Convention
MESSAGE: Next Topic:
The Opening Ceremonies of the Convention or “Who gets to put in the and start the first load of wash and in which of the 22 washing machines???” - Discuss…
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Post# 3293-8/1/2001-14:21 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: Back In Cyberspace
MESSAGE: Hi everyone
Just checking in after a work convention ( no outside Links to cyberspace) God this club is so popular I`tl take me ages to read all the posts ......
I`ve quickly scanned for convention info.... my tickets have arrived, US Airways flight from London Gatwick, direct flight to Minni, get in at 15.00hrs on Friday, enough time to get to the Hotel for the meet-up at six...
I wasnt planning on hiring a car, was wondering how good the local taxi`s were... Sooooo if anyone has a space in their car I would gladly say YES YES YES or YAY and am happy to share costs etc....please let me know!!!!!!
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 3294-8/1/2001-14:32 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: that home site (anti-frontloader)
MESSAGE: Yep, you are right Aaaaaroough. I have a Frigmore on a platform and it is much easier to unload than a top loader. Especially since today's tops are so deep. Very little tangling from the Frigmore. Not so with the old deep-tubbed top loader with a auger-type agitator I had previously. The clothes were wrapped into knots and trying to get them around the top fins of the auger-agitator was a pain in the neck.
My Frigmore runs about ten minutes longer than my old top loader did (with an extra 4th rinse included.) Big deal. Plus with the faster spin, the dryer is usually done with one load at the same time, or even before, the washer finishes the next load. With my old set, the dryer ran about 20 minutes longer than the washer with each load. It doesn't matter how fast your washer is, if the dryer isn't just as fast.
I think they are probably talking about some European models that heat the water. Those do take a long time. But, American-style front loaders have cycles that are comparable time-wise to top loaders.
Most all of the reasons people list against front loaders are misinformation or just totally bogus.
I love my Frigmore and will never own a top-loader again, unless it's a Frigidaire Unimatic.
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Post# 3295-8/1/2001-14:35 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Transportation at the Convention
MESSAGE: Gary and I will have a car that will hold two others.
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Post# 3296-8/1/2001-15:23 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Back In Cyberspace
MESSAGE: Hi Mike, welcome home to Cyberspace.
The Local Taxi's here in Minnie are very good here. I can certainly see how you wouldn't want to rent a car here with our steering wheels being on the opposite side than what you're use to. I don't mind driving in any other city, but if I was going to London, I wouldn't know how to begin to drive with the steering wheel on the right side.
Taxi's will be very easy to hail at the Airport and at your hotel, I will post the necessary directions as the time gets closer. Its very easy to get to my house from the hotel, its all urban freeway (or as you guys call it Motorway) and only two city streets after that.
You'll probably be a bit tired from the 9 hour time change, but all the electricity that we're going to be using should help keep you awake!
Can't wait to meet you and everyone else!
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Post# 3297-8/1/2001-15:27 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: The Opening Ceremonies of the Convention
MESSAGE: I thought the opening ceremony would be the Parade of Agitators, followed by the Dials of Light display, with musical accompaniment by the OOB Orchestra and the End of Cycle chorus...
Closing ceremony will be the spin ramp-up by the machines followed by mass braking...
-ph
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Post# 3298-8/1/2001-16:34 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Read it and Weep Boys
MESSAGE: Perhaps available seating could be assigned in alphabetical order . . . 8-)
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Post# 3299-8/1/2001-16:58 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: I am so screwed :-(
MESSAGE: Don't feel bad Jason... I just booked the wrong weekend myself on Expedia... As of this moment, you and I can have our own convention in MSP on the weekend of August 24th!!! AAAAARRRRRRGGGHHH!!!!!!!!
-ph
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Post# 3300-8/1/2001-16:59 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Mark 18 Washer and Dryer ((Beautiful Set =) ))
MESSAGE: For this exact reason, God created FedEx, UPS, and even the USPS... Do I hear that a swap is in order?
-ph
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Post# 3301-8/1/2001-18:04 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: The Opening Ceremonies of the Convention (Pulsamatic)
MESSAGE: Since this is your most recent aquisition of a washer from your dream list, I vote that we all, with great ceremony, pomp and circumstance (does anyone play drums?) commemorate the Pulsamatic.
Just a thought...
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Post# 3302-8/1/2001-18:12 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Mark 18 Washer and Dryer ((Beautiful Set =) ))
MESSAGE: No swap is necessary - I have so much already (unless you have a spare Unimatic lying about) and would just as soon have the parts go to someone that will enjoy them. Odds are, I will never use them anyway.
I have a lovely Westinghouse dishwasher too...
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Post# 3303-8/1/2001-19:18 ||| tucker (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Mark 18 Washer and Dryer (Maybe they did make UPS for a reason =))
MESSAGE: Hi Greg,
If you don't mind I'd so love to make my 75 set a 73 and mine are already harvest gold. Can any club members give me an idea of what kind of mess I could get myself into?
For the washer would I just need:
1. The console
2. The motor
What would I need for the dryer?
I imagine to do it right I'd send the timers out to get redone or buy new ones and stuff like that. ya think I could also have the lid (since it shows different cycles) and the agitator cap (does that require the agitator too?)
I can't tell you how cool this could be, I was built in 1973 too and the set I used as a child was a 73 whirlpool, I didn't know anything about classic appliances and a few years ago I found my basic 75 imperial set at a appliance store and I totally rebuilt them.
So what do you think guys should I do it =+) if so Greg thanks sooooooooooooooooooo much and I'll be sure and take pictures. Wish I had stuff to trade but the whirlys are all I got.
Well time to go home =)
~Steven
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Post# 3304-8/1/2001-19:27 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: The Opening Ceremonies of the Convention (I agree)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg
I'm with you...the 55 Frigidaire Pulsamatic is the way to go. It is a rare machine and sister to the beautiful 55 Imperial. In fact, the second load should be in the Imperial, to demonstrate the difference between the two 1955 Frigidaire models.
Rich
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Post# 3305-8/1/2001-19:48 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: I am so screwed :-( (If it had been the 24th)
MESSAGE: I'd be there in a heartbeat, but before I knew about the wash-in (or that this club existed) I promised my cousin I'd video her wedding. Yech! Me and my big mouth saying "I have a camcorder". That camcorder could have been to good use videotaping all those fine washing machines.
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Post# 3306-8/1/2001-19:56 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Mark 18 Washer and Dryer (Maybe they did make UPS for a reason =))
MESSAGE: You will also need the wiring harness, unless you are creative like me and make your own. Haven't had one fail yet. If you truly want the dryer to be a 73 you will need all the switching stuff for the drum speed and any thermostats, the top if yours is not like the 73, ie: hidden EOCS and possibly the gas burner. I am sure Tom knows about that being that he is the one who has perfected Speed Bake Drying or is it roasting?
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Post# 3307-8/1/2001-19:58 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Transportation at the Convention
MESSAGE: Jim and I will be driving in, and we can probably handle another person or two in the back seat (so to speak.)
Ken Y.
PS - Greg,
Are we still doing nametags? I never followed up on your posting.
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Post# 3308-8/1/2001-20:02 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Convention directions, maps?
MESSAGE: Robert,
Can you post something in the way of a map for directions?
I've yet to get to AAA to pick up a Trip-Tic for the drive. Could you possibly scan and post something that shows the major freeways, that covers the location of your house and directions to your place from the motel?
Ken
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Post# 3309-8/1/2001-20:54 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!! (convention)
MESSAGE: Yeah, that HE3t is really something. 1st class all the way! All I've got is a video, owners & service manual on the unit so far. Everyone is going crazy over this machine; it is creating a sensation. Anyway, this gathering truly is going to be a significant event for me....surely everyone else as well! I can't thank everyone enough. By the way; I'm planning on renting a car. Best regards.....Leslie
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Post# 3310-8/1/2001-21:39 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!! (convention)
MESSAGE: Yes, this will truly be a wonderful event, where you'll see all sorts of wonderful machines, including four wonderful Sears/Whirlpool products of the past. I really hope the Bloomington Mall Sears will have the HE3T by the time of the convention, particularly since they are kind of a "premier" store. I'm curious: are more Sears units produced and sold, or more Whirlpool?
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Post# 3311-8/1/2001-23:40 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Transportation at the Convention
MESSAGE: Yes - I need your nametag info - Name, where you're from and wallpaper choice for both you and Jim.
Good to hear from you - hope all is well with you both, Hi from me to Jim!
Talk to you soon - Greg
gansky1@yahoo.com
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Post# 3312-8/1/2001-23:42 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention directions, maps?
MESSAGE: You can get all that right online at Yahoo maps - just go to the main Yahoo page and click on Maps, then enter addresses for departure location and destination. It should give you a map that you can zoom in and out with to get detailed or general directions. I use it all the time when looking for appliance stores in small towns.
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Post# 3313-8/2/2001-05:27 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!! (convention)
MESSAGE: Leslie, "all you have is the video and service & owners manual". HA, I'm already tingling at the thought of seeing thoe materials. Sure, it's not the real thing, but I love documentation. I'm just a ga ga over this thing. Even showed my secretary yesterday an article about my latest object of appliance lust. So make sure you pack those pieces of info cause I'm gonna take advantage of having them there. Look out Sears when we invade!!!
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Post# 3314-8/2/2001-05:29 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!! (convention)
MESSAGE: Scott, I'm willing to bet it's that more Kenmore brand is produced--their rank in the appliance market share and their pure marketing ability.
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Post# 3315-8/2/2001-05:35 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Back In Cyberspace
MESSAGE: Mike, the Holiday Inn where we are staying has a shuttle to and from not only the airport, but also the Maul of America, so you don't need to worry about hailing a taxi to the whotel. Just remember Holiday Inn #2 as in, well never mind. Tom
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Post# 3316-8/2/2001-05:42 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Mark 18 Washer and Dryer (Maybe they did make UPS for a reason =))
MESSAGE: Steven, to play it safe, you should have the entire tops of both machines and the wiring harnesses from both in addition to the washer motor and the dryer motor pulley, if Greg can get it off the shaft. I believe your pulley should unscrew from the motor shaft, and the conical pulley for the variable tumble speed should screw on. Tom
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Post# 3317-8/2/2001-06:04 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Mark 18 Washer and Dryer (HI SPEED DRYING)
MESSAGE: Call it what you want, 25 minutes for a full load of 3'X 6' bath sheets to dry is pretty dramatic as is the thought that even though they had wimped down the burner to 22K BTUs, the machine handles the 37K input just fine. For added drama appeal, and face it there is limited DA during drying, you should see the amounts of steam each of these dryers can produce under the deck. Even last Sunday when it was raining and around 70 degrees, the steam clouds were almost worthy of a special effects award, although nothing like in cold weather. TT
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Post# 3318-8/2/2001-07:48 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Mark 18 Washer and Dryer (Maybe they did make UPS for a reason =))
MESSAGE: Got the tops off both machines, the motor from the washer and the dryer's model plate. I was able to get the pulley assembly and conical shaft off the dryer motor fairly easy, but if there is a repair manual out there in Applianceville, that would be helpful for Steven to re-assemble it in his own dryer. I tried to take some pics as I was pulling stuff, but it's awfully hard to get good angles on things inside, plus everything is very dirty and linty. I still have some wiring to pull from the washer and and I think it may be wise to have the dryer motor mounting plate if this one is different from the standard issue WP one speed dryer - would there be just and idler pulley on the one speed?
Steven, do you have a gas or electric dryer now? This one I have is gas so there may be some changes that will need to be made for electric. The lid handle on the washer is trashed, and there are a couple of small chips in the porcelain at the rear of the lid opening. Nothing too bad for it's age.
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Post# 3319-8/2/2001-07:48 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: CONVENTION TRANSPORTATION DRIVERS
MESSAGE: Thank you all for letting us know about who is contributing transportation. I see that there are some who will have transportation, but who are not on the reservations list for the hotel. Please post to the list IF YOU ARE STAYING AT THE Holiday Inn AND ARE DRIVING AND ARE NOT LISTED BELOW because we have to make sure that we have enough seats FROM the motel to functions. Currently I show that Steve B, Greg N, Peter H and I are staying at the HI and are providing rides. As it stands, we have more than enough transportation seats based on Peter's records of who made reservations. I am only coordinating rides FROM THE HOTEL to Robert's (and back) and, on Sunday to the MOA. Thanks, Tom
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Post# 3320-8/2/2001-07:51 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Mark 18 Washer and Dryer (WP dryer)
MESSAGE: Greg, all the speed stuff is in the belt controls. Motor would be same, IF Steven's motor has a removable pulley. Old ones did, newer ones might not. TT
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Post# 3321-8/2/2001-08:03 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Mark 18 Washer and Dryer (WP dryer)
MESSAGE: His is a '75, so should be the same for mounting the conical pulley - I had no trouble getting it off the shaft (we're still talking dryers here, stay with me...) so hopefully it will work the same on his machine. There is a spring that goes from the idler/changer mechanism to the base plate that will need to be replaced, this one was streched and broken.
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Post# 3322-8/2/2001-08:06 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: CONVENTION TRANSPORTATION DRIVERS
MESSAGE: Robert and I did a count last night for the Saturday estate sale caravan and we should be fine for that with all the cars, may be eight or nine cars long, but we'll split into two groups with Robert and Scott each leading a group. Robert will do some maps and directions for us to follow also.
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Post# 3323-8/2/2001-08:30 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention directions, maps? (Directions to my house)
MESSAGE: Ken its very easy, here is a quick summary, when I have more time I will make maps, but you can use Yahoo Maps just as easy.
From the Hotel to My House
Take 494 Freeway Eastbound
Get on the 35W Freeway Northbound
Exit at the 35-36 street exit.
Take a Right on 36th Street, (its a one-way you can only go right)
Go about 12 blocks to 15th Avenue
Make a right on 15th Avenue and I'm in the middle of that block
3629 15th Avenue in Minneapolis.
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Post# 3324-8/2/2001-11:28 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention directions, maps? (Directions to my house)
MESSAGE: Thanks Robert. Now all I (and perhaps others) need to know is where the hotel is located and i'll be all set.
Is is right on 494 Freeway? Would you happen to know what exit?
If you want to reference an old posting with further info, that would be fine.
Ken Y.
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Post# 3325-8/2/2001-11:34 ||| tucker (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Mark 18 Washer and Dryer (sounds good guys)
MESSAGE: You guys are so awesome!
So I'd need:
Washer:
1. Top
2. Motor (my machine has a new motor is there a way to use it?)
3. wire harness (comes with the top right?)
4. Agitator cap if you please =) (does that require the agitator too?)
Also the tub looks different than mine (My tub is black with white spreckles) does that mean its a different capacity so would there be an issue with the water level? Or maybe I should just use the water level thing from mine? Does anyone know what the original knob looked like on this machine? I seem to remember its different than my 75 one.
Dryer:
1. top
2. pully stuff (I have no idea how this works and I've this cool feature before)
The motor in my dryer I believe is original (I've only re-done the washer) I have however replaced the sensors in mine, and yes greg mine is gas so were ok there.
When you feel like it tell me how much all this stuff would cost to ship to San Diego California add on your pain and suffering I'll send you the $$ and then you can send the stuff. You can send it whatever way you think is best and I'm in no hurry =)
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Post# 3326-8/2/2001-11:45 ||| tucker (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Mark 18 Washer and Dryer (dryer model plate)
MESSAGE: Greg could you also grab the dryer model plate?
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Post# 3327-8/2/2001-12:26 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention directions, maps? (Directions to my house)
MESSAGE: Hooray!! We get to go on I35, so everyone give a big wave cause my house is is WAY down South on the other end of I35 here in Texas and I'm SURE you will ALL be able to see my house from Minnie LOL.
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Post# 3328-8/2/2001-12:36 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Hotel Info
MESSAGE: As it is listed in the Holidex, the worldwide reservation system for Holiday Inn hotels:
MSPAO MINNEAPOLIS,MN-ARPT #2 PH 952/831-8000
5401 GREEN VALLEY DR BLOOMINGTON MN 55437
FAX: 952/831-8426
-LOC- FROM I-494 EXIT AT NORMANDALE BLVD, EXIT 7B
-ph
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Post# 3329-8/2/2001-15:03 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotel Info
MESSAGE: The Holidex? Sounds like the "Holly Bell", which are information phones all over Dayton's where you call to find out where things are. :-)
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Post# 3330-8/2/2001-15:59 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention directions, maps? (Don't Use the Yahoo Directions)
MESSAGE: Attention Convention Goers:
I tried using Yahoo maps, but follow my directions because its quicker and more direct than what Yahoo suggest.
Here they are again:
From the Hotel to My House
Take 494 Freeway Eastbound
Get on the 35W Freeway Northbound
Exit at the 35-36 street exit.
Take a Right on 36th Street, (its a one-way you can only go right)
Go about 12 blocks to 15th Avenue
Make a right on 15th Avenue and I'm in the middle of that block
3629 15th Avenue in Minneapolis.
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Post# 3331-8/2/2001-17:24 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: ROW CALL!!!
MESSAGE: Here's who will be arriving at the hotel when...
If you are planning on comming to the convention, have made a reservation and DO NOT see your name, please email me at peter.haritatos@6c.com with your confirmation number.
Thursday, 16AUG
TomTurbo
Gansky
SVB/Foraloysius
Friday, 17AUG
Appnut
Geodon
ChesterMikeUK
Tlee
Magic Clean
Kennywhy
Dadoes
-ph
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Post# 3332-8/2/2001-17:44 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: ROW CALL!!! (Another Question)
MESSAGE: Of those who are not staying at the Holiday Inn Hotel, where are the rest staying?
Here is what info I have:
- Jetcone is staying with me
- John Lefever is staying with his Mom in Burnsville
-Jeff and Cal will staying with his Mom (Burnsville) or his brother in Golden Valley
What about Rich and Gary? Are you guys staying in the same hotel you stayed back in October in Bloomington?
Anyone Else?
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Post# 3333-8/2/2001-19:05 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: ROW CALL!!! (Another Question)
MESSAGE: Hi Robert
Yeah, Gary and I will be at the Homewood Suites...the same place we stayed during our last visit. Cant' wait!
Rich
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Post# 3334-8/2/2001-19:28 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: A message from your food coordinator, part I
MESSAGE: Here are a couple of posts that will tell you about the all-wonderful celebratory element, "food". :-)
For our Saturday evening dinner, we will be dining at "Nye's Polonaise Room." This is a longstanding Minneapolis restaurant of which I have been a repeat customer for many years. The link below tells you about the restaurant and also gives the menu. I have never personally tried any of the Polish specialties, but their steaks, prime rib, seafood etc. are all wonderful.
This is one of those wonderful, dark, supper-club type restaurants of old, with dark paneling, red carpeting and wonderful sparkly gold vinyl booths; always bustling, particularly on weekends, and an all-female waitstaff, few of any of whom I know of that are under 60. What a perfect place for a "vintage" appliance club to gather! I know you will enjoy it.
LINK: http://iyp.uswestdex.com/u1/nyespolonaise/Page1.html
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Post# 3335-8/2/2001-19:39 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: A message from your food coordinator, part deux
MESSAGE: For our Sunday Brunch meal, we will be dining at the "California Cafe" at the Bloomington Mall. We changed this from the original "Rainforest" location, since Rainforest does not serve any brunch type foods. An informational link appears below.
Our group will be served in a semi-private location in the restaurant. In this instance, you will select a first course, entree and dessert on a "prix fixe" basis at $19.95 per person plus tax and gratuity. Coffee and tea are also included. Following are the choices of the day:
“First Course”:
1. “Farmers Market Organic Greens with Walnut Viaigrette"
2. “Smoked Chicken and Wild Rice Soup”
“Entrée”:
1. “Blueberry French Toast, Whipped Butter,
Vanilla Bean Maple Syrup, Pecans and
Bacon”
2. “Three Egg Scramble, Smoked Salmon, Spinach,
Mascarpone Cheese, Dill and Bacon”
3. “Grilled Chicken Breast, Polenta, String Beans,
Ancho Sauce”
“Desserts”:
1. “Zesty Lime Tart, Vanilla Meringue, Fresh Berries”
2. “White Chocolate Cheesecake with Raspberry Sauce”
Last but certainly not least, anyone remaining in Minneapolis for my open house there will be a light supper/general grazing table consisting of sloppy joes, some good goodies and whatever I decide on between now and then to round it out. :)
Bon Appetit!
Your Friendly Food Coordinator
LINK: http://www.calcafe.com/moa/
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Post# 3336-8/2/2001-19:46 ||| syndets2000 (Nanjemoy, Md)
SUBJECT: Hi, Everybody
MESSAGE: I wanted to say hello to everyone, since I have been gone for awhile........When we were talking about adapting the newer gray door boot to the old slant-front Laundromats, was it possible to use the " garter-band" ? I have several I have not used yet, & I have no more old style boots to use. Robert
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Post# 3337-8/2/2001-20:39 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Mark 18 Washer and Dryer (sounds good guys)
MESSAGE: The last thing that I have to pull from the washer is the wiring down in the cabinet. I thought the motor wiring might be handy in case the wiring for the three speed motor is different from yours. The agitator cap is pretty pitted and nasty looking - you're welcome to it if you like though.
The water level thing may just be something that you can adjust when you have it installed. This one has a large circular range that may very well be different than yours - plus this control has an Extra Small setting that may be nice to have when adjusted properly for a smaller tub (it is large capacity.) One of the WP guys could tell you how (or if) it works.
I'll look through my collection of knobs to see if there's one that would work on this, but with the large circular range of water levels, the marker on the dial may be still different - depends on the clamping method of the knob stem too. It may be a shot in the dark, but you could try FSP parts to see if it's available.
I'll see if I can get an estimate of the weight and check with the UPS website for rates. If you'd email me your address and zip the estimate should be fairly accurate. The motor will probably be best shipped by itself, it weighs approximately 1,000,000,000 pounds so it shouldn't be too much ;-)
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Post# 3338-8/2/2001-20:39 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Mark 18 Washer and Dryer (dryer model plate)
MESSAGE: I already pulled that off for you!
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Post# 3339-8/2/2001-20:48 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire "1-18" pair found - Big Deal??
MESSAGE: I visited the main Salvation Army distribution center today in downtown Detroit. In my seemingly eternal search for a 1950's Unimatic machine, as they do each week, I was allowed to inspect the area in the warehouse where the "about to be trashed" appliances are.
No WO-52 to be found.
Instead waiting to be thrown out were a matching "1-18" washer and dryer pair. Unfortunately they are "harvest gold," but they looked really clean and like they might work, or at least do something on first plug-in. We'll see. Though gold in color, the washer is a WCD-6 with the window! That sort of helped in my decision to get them. Their great condition also makes up for the color.
To make too long a post short, I plan to pick them up tommorrow and add them to my collection. I know I can count on club members for repair and parts advice.
Look forward to meeting you guys soon!
Ken
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Post# 3340-8/2/2001-20:48 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi, Everybody
MESSAGE: I have not put the newer style boot on the L5 that I got from Robert yet, but I think the old garter ring is too small since you have to fold that newer boot to make it work. Is that correct Austinado - Todd?
Glad to have you back - how is your collection??
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Post# 3341-8/2/2001-20:57 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire "1-18" pair found - Big Deal??
MESSAGE: This sounds like the same washer I have - I love the window lid, except the only time I close the lid is when I'm done using it!
If they look like they are in good sorts, you can always use them for parts to a 1-18 set that you do like the color of. Can't let them get away!
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Post# 3342-8/2/2001-21:46 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire "1-18" pair found - Big Deal??
MESSAGE: Maybe this will be the beginning of a gold spree, much like Greg's!
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Post# 3343-8/3/2001-04:52 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: A message from your food coordinator, part I
MESSAGE: Scott,
Sounds like fun. Dinner and Dancing. Glad you sent tne link! I have to remember to pack my dancing shoes.
Oh! I just love a good polka!
Steve 1-18
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Post# 3344-8/3/2001-04:59 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire "1-18" pair found - Big Deal??
MESSAGE: Ken,
I'm so excited about the pair you found! My first 1-18 was gold, too. Have 2 golds washers, two white, one avacado, and two coppertones. Both coppertones have the matching dryers.
Is you dryer gas or electric? Both of my dryers are electric.
Steve 1-18
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Post# 3345-8/3/2001-05:31 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: POD 8/3/01
MESSAGE: The dryer model number LC is the condenser LB is blower. TT
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Post# 3346-8/3/2001-05:33 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool Mark 18 Washer and Dryer (sounds good guys)
MESSAGE: If the Mark is a 3 speed and yours is not and you want it to be a 3 speed, you need the motor. TT
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Post# 3347-8/3/2001-05:41 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: A message from your food coordinator, part I
MESSAGE: Thank you Scott for the peek at the menu. I see that they have a piano lounge. We could take it over for singing showtunes after dinner just to make people wonder, "who were those men who knew all the words?" Tom
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Post# 3348-8/3/2001-07:23 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 8/3/01
MESSAGE: I saw a Hotpoint dryer at the thrift store a while back that made my heart jump, but it was a blower model. '59 I think that was - POTD is 55?
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Post# 3349-8/3/2001-07:31 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: A message from your food coordinator, part I
MESSAGE: Who knew all the words and dance steps and made those fabulous costumes out of the napkins!
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Post# 3350-8/3/2001-08:20 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: A message from your food coordinator, part deux
MESSAGE: Scott,
What?!?!? No no-bake cookies? After all that swapping a year ago, you better have those delicasies... ;)
-ph
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Post# 3351-8/3/2001-08:23 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire "1-18" pair found - Big Deal??
MESSAGE: Yes, a big deal!!! Congrats Ken!!!
What other machines are in your collection?
-ph
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Post# 3352-8/3/2001-08:29 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire "1-18" pair found - Big Deal?? (Eureka!)
MESSAGE: Scott,
Hush your mouth! We need to get some Poppy Reds coming into the collections! Enough with the gold already!!!
-ph
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Post# 3353-8/3/2001-08:31 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Shipping services
MESSAGE: Myself and a lady I work with need to ship to a place where our good friends at Creaters & Freighters do not service. What are some other shipping companies you guys have used?
-ph
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Post# 3354-8/3/2001-08:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A message from your food coordinator, part I
MESSAGE: Thanks Scott! Like Scott said, Nye's is a fabuously vintage, kitschy restuarant, with big red-sparkly vinyl booths, french whore-house textured wallpaper, it was a very fancy place in the 50's, and now has grown into a somewhat-gay, somewhat grungy, urban icon. This will be a lot of fun for the convention dinner!!!
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Post# 3355-8/3/2001-08:53 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire "1-18" pair found - Big Deal??
MESSAGE: Very Nice Ken!! And any GM Frigidaire is a "Big-Deal", its been 21 years now after all.
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Post# 3356-8/3/2001-08:54 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 8/3/01
MESSAGE: Yup, the POD is the '55 (I'm pretty sure).
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Post# 3357-8/3/2001-08:56 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Shipping services
MESSAGE: I've only used Creaters & Freighters, they usually contract out shipping services that will ship anywhere in the USA.
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Post# 3358-8/3/2001-08:59 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 8/3/01 (LW and LWS)
MESSAGE: And on the washer, the LWS is the Suds-Saver Version of the LW.
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Post# 3359-8/3/2001-14:06 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: A message from your food coordinator, part deux
MESSAGE: Your Majesty,
Before meeting you we are already impressed by the choice of the restaurants. We believe it will be a true pleasure to have diner and brunch with the club members.
QLOTOC
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Post# 3360-8/3/2001-14:08 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: A message from your food coordinator, part I
MESSAGE: You'd better take a songbook with you so I can sing along too, I'll probably won't know the words of a lot of songs. Otherwise people might wonder who the odd one out is.
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Post# 3361-8/3/2001-15:02 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A message from your food coordinator, part deux
MESSAGE: Oh there'll be lots of those all weekend, cookies, cakes, bars and goodies of all kinds! ESPECIALLY no bake cookies, cuz at the rate this weather is going I'm not going to want to use the oven much more!
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Post# 3362-8/3/2001-15:02 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: A message from your food coordinator, part I
MESSAGE: Louis,
They might think you are the only normal one... LOL!!!
-ph
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Post# 3363-8/3/2001-15:04 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A message from your food coordinator, part I
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, we are happy to report that the piano bar comes complete with songbooks! Thus, with your excellent command of the English language, you will be able to sing right along! QEOM
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Post# 3364-8/3/2001-15:06 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A message from your food coordinator, part deux
MESSAGE: Thank You, Your Majesty! With all the heads of state we have entertained over the years, we are very happy to say we have become quite experienced at this, and we are glad that through this experience we have been able to create quite a delightful Royal weekend of dining for you and the subjects.
QEOM
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Post# 3365-8/3/2001-15:28 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A message from your food coordinator, part I
MESSAGE: Steve, both the piano bar and polka band are lots of fun. The dance floor is about as big as most people's bathroom, it gets just packed with people and everyone has a great time.
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Post# 3366-8/3/2001-15:29 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A message from your food coordinator, part I
MESSAGE: ...don't think I haven't seen that happen too, LOL
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Post# 3367-8/3/2001-17:11 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: A message from your food coordinator, part I
MESSAGE: I never go for normal! ;-))))
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Post# 3368-8/3/2001-17:13 ||| appliguy (Vienna Va.)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire "1-18" pair found - Big Deal?? (I know where there is a poppy pair avaiable)
MESSAGE: I ran into a guy in Best Buy the other day whio was replacing a poppy Firgidaire pair because the timer motor stopped working on the washer...the timer itself is ok just the motor died. The dryer is in good shapoe though...if anyone is interested plkease let me know as it will go to the dump real soon. The washer is a WCD 3T and the dryer is the matching model that works flawlessly so I am told and they guy has all the manuals. The pair are in Reston Va. which is a suburb of Washington D.C. Anyone who is intersted let me know. You can e-mail me at geguy276@aol.com PAT COFFEY
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Post# 3369-8/3/2001-17:13 ||| appliguy (Vienna Va.)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire "1-18" pair found - Big Deal?? (I know where there is a poppy pair avaiable)
MESSAGE: I ran into a guy in Best Buy the other day whio was replacing a poppy Firgidaire pair because the timer motor stopped working on the washer...the timer itself is ok just the motor died. The dryer is in good shape though...if anyone is interested plkease let me know as it will go to the dump real soon. The washer is a WCD 3T and the dryer is the matching model that works flawlessly so I am told and they guy has all the manuals. The pair are in Reston Va. which is a suburb of Washington D.C. Anyone who is intersted let me know. You can e-mail me at geguy276@aol.com PAT COFFEY
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Post# 3370-8/3/2001-17:35 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: A message from your food coordinator, part deux
MESSAGE: And don't forget that recipe I sent you earlier this year. It was intended to hopefully be used, whether I was able to attend the convention or not--wanted my presence there.
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Post# 3371-8/3/2001-17:39 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A message from your food coordinator, part deux
MESSAGE: Ok kids....notice in that message that I did NOT include every item on the menu for Sunday night or over the weekend. Bob and Rich's recipes are included, as are any number of other things to be announced or already determined. Not seeing it in the post does NOT mean that it will not be there.
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Post# 3372-8/3/2001-18:07 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: A message from your food coordinator, part I
MESSAGE: Dont' feel bad Luigi, I don't do "showtoons" myself.
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Post# 3373-8/3/2001-18:48 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: A message from your food coordinator, part I
MESSAGE: I don't dance or sing, but I can watch.
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Post# 3374-8/3/2001-18:56 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Hmmm...
MESSAGE: Look at the event we are missing out on tonight. Too bad they didn't leave this one for the convention:
Friday
August 3
8pm - 10pm Join Cities 97 for the Oxydol Foam Party at America's Original Sports Bar in Mall of America!
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Post# 3375-8/3/2001-21:33 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire "1-18" pair found - Big Deal??
MESSAGE: Peter -
Check my profile on the website.
I don't have many machines. Just the 1960, 1965 washers, and the 1952 dryer. All GM-Frigidaire.
I got the "new" pair today. Details to follow. . . literally!
Ken
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Post# 3376-8/3/2001-21:43 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire "1-18" pair found - Big Deal?? (An update from your Food Coordinator-CA Cafe)
MESSAGE: Just a few additional details....our $19.95 price includes first course, entree, dessert, coffee or tea, as I mentioned. This is taxed at a 6.5% rate, and I will be billed a flat 19% gratuity, so 19% of $19.95 is the "tip" so to speak. If you choose to purchase other beverages, they are extra; non-alcoholic are taxed at 6.5%, alcoholic at 12%.
:-)
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Post# 3377-8/3/2001-21:43 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire "1-18" pair found - Big Deal?? (oops!)
MESSAGE: That message of course has nothing to do with Ken's new 1-18. I wasn't paying attention to what I was doing. Sorry!
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Post# 3378-8/3/2001-21:56 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Hmmm...
MESSAGE: We had a foam party at "our" bar here not long ago - it was a blast. Dancing in the 8 feet of foam - remember to breathe through your nose!
Imagine, a few hundred slippery, soapy men dancing around in little or nothing. I, of course, wanted to come in costume with an agitator on my head and should have. Everyone I told that to thought it would have been hilarious - and I thought nobody would get it!
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Post# 3379-8/3/2001-21:59 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire Fool's Gold (pair) Update
MESSAGE: Hi all!
With the help of a friend and his pickup truck, the gold matching washer and dryer were added to my appliance collection this afternoon. To correct what I said yesterday, the washer is a model WC6. The color really doesn't look all that bad. It's more of a medium yellow with darker colored cabinet border trim.
The washer functions in spin and agitation, but some advice would be appreciated. First of all, the washer is missing the recirculating slide-in filter, if anyone has a spare (Steve?), please let me know. The agitation has a deep, loud resonance, but runs OK. Are they supposed to sound that way, or does that mean something's worn out? It spins just fine on both speeds though.
The only somewhat "major" problem is with the timer. It turns and clicks smoothly, but in order to keep the machine running it's necessary to hold the timer dial out firmly (push to stop-pull to start). If you don't pull on the dial, it just conks out and stops. The in-out/on-off click feels OK, but it just won't keep running without pulling out on the timer. Any quick fix here? Perhaps something to tighten? Hopefully. Or do I need another timer?
The dryer is a gas model. It's not yet hooked to the gas line, but I plugged it in, and the drum turned and the glow coil lighted up, so it may be just fine.
I spite of the minor problems, I couldn't believe they were going to trash these machines, but they would have. Glad I was able to save them.
P.S. I discovered a major scratch on the front lower part of the washer cabinet. Does anyone have a "spare" gold washer front in good shape they can spare, and perhaps bring to our coming get-together. Please let me know.
Ken
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Post# 3380-8/3/2001-22:20 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Yes, I'm still sick
MESSAGE: I washed my clothes just the other day
Put them in the dryer in usual way.
I closed the door and I turned the knob
And let the thing alone and do it's only job
but it was thumpin' and a bumpin'
and that's when I knew
That Fluffy's in there too, yeah
You know he's in there tooo....
Well the cat's in the dryer in the Frigidaire
tumbling around with my underwear
Is he gonna make it I don't know when
I know I'll have a dead cat then, yeah
you know I'll have a dead cat then.
The Frigmore arrived just the other day
1000 rpm's just blew me away
but now it's time to put 'em in the old Frigidaire
and put the clean clothes in alot of hot air
Then the old familiar noise and that's when I knew
That I didn't wash my shoes, no
Oh no, what did I do
Well the cat's in the dryer in the Frigidaire
tumbling around with my underwear
Is he gonna make it I don't know when
I know I'll have a dead cat then, yeah
you know I'll have a dead cat then.
Sorry to those that love cats. I'm just in that kind of mood today :)
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Post# 3381-8/3/2001-22:54 ||| steved (Albany NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Shipping services (shipping, and the convention)
MESSAGE: Hi, all.....I just received a postcard from my neighborhood Mail Boxes Etc and they arrange for shipping appliances. It seems as if it might be more convenient. (Would love to find out how much to ship Greg's Westy Roll-out DW)
Since I will not be at the convention, I wish the best to all the attendees, and I will be with you in spirit, and look forward to all the follow-up stories and photos. Maybe I'll send my picture and you guys can throw it in with a load of laundry....
Thanks again to Uni/Robert for all he has contributed to this group. I for one am SOOOOO grateful for his efforts!
Enjoy all!!!! SteveD
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Post# 3382-8/3/2001-01:57 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Yes, I'm still sick
MESSAGE: I loved your poem. I am not a cat lover.
Sorry cat lovers but they kill our native wildlife, as if suburbia hasnt already done enough damage.
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Post# 3383-8/4/2001-02:17 ||| spiralator60 (Los Angeles, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Loved the picture of the day. (FKB Bendixes Rule!)
MESSAGE: Tom:
Sorry to take so long in answering. You are absolutely correct about the Bendix pair in the Anderson utility area. I checked back issues of "Life" and "Good Housekeeping" during the period 1953-1956, and sure enough, there were machines advertised that looked similar to Robert's dryer (in addition to the Duomatic).
Checking into the broadcast history of this show also provided a clue as to what was going on with the design of the sets. "Father Knows Best" first premiered on television in October 1954 on the CBS network, and continued on its schedule until it was cancelled in March 1955. The network and sponsors said at the time that the show was not exciting enough to attact the audience that was hoped for. As it turned out, the audience that was watching though otherwise and bombarded the network and the show's sponsors with thousands of letters protesting this decision. Up until this time, protest letter writing on this scale had not happened with a television program, and the entire broadcast and advertising industry took notice. NBC, hoping to steal some of CBS' ratings thunder (as it was the ratings leader at the time), immediately acquired the broadcast rights to the show, and aired the program from April 1955 until September 1958. It is worth noting that the show moved up to and was continually in the weekly top 20 programs, often in the top 10 during this time. CBS regained the program for its schedule in September 1958 where it continued until October 1960, at which time the show ceased production. The program, however, was still highly rated at this time. The reason that the show stopped producing new episodes was because the producers felt that the show had run and completed its course. From 1960 until 1962, CBS aired repeat episodes of the show during prime time, as did ABC during the 1962-1963 season.
The reason that I bring up this history is because it was, and still is, common practice in series television to "freshen up" the look of a hit series without tampering with the basic premise. With this and other programs produced by Screen Gems, there was usually some noticeable set redecorating that occurred at the start of each new season. Sometimes it was explicitly stated that there was new furniture or appliances. More often though, a sparkling new set of items was showcased (such as top of the line kitchen and laundry appliances) without the characters specifically mentioning them. This was apparently the case at the start of the new NBC "Father" episodes at the beginning of the 1955-1956 season, probably for the sake of not confusing the viewing audience who had been used to the show on CBS.
There is also something else that is worth mentioning. The matter of product placement in movies and television is nothing new. I am attempting to find out for sure if Bendix was a sponsor of the program. If so, this would definitely explain the disappearance of the Westinghouse Laundromat seen the previous year, and the presence of newer model Bendix machines in later seasons. Even if there were no actual commercials for Bendix appliances presented during the program, the design of the washer and dryer were unique enough to command the attention of the viewer. This was in addition to the print ad campaign for Bendix products which also heightened consumer awareness.
Be careful what you wish for, as according to "The Hollywood Reporter," Sony Pictures (the current holder of the rights to the "Father Knows Best" franchise) is currently exploring the idea of turning it into a feature film. Now if you liked the way that "Leave It To Beaver" was done when it was turned into an updated feature length movie... Actually, I liked your ideas better!
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Post# 3384-8/4/2001-02:51 ||| spiralator60 (Los Angeles, California)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 8/3/01 (Hotpoint Presents)
MESSAGE: For much of the time that "The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet" was originally on the air, over the ABC television network (1952-1966), one of the show's sponsors was Hotpoint Appliances. For this reason, there are many scenes of the show which take place in the kitchen and laundry area, and the appliances themselves have as much screen presence as the human actors. In a book written by Ozzie Nelson in 1973, titled "Ozzie," Mr. Nelson says that this was a deliberate way of putting the spotlight on the sponsor's product, and that this was also done for sponsor's such as Eastman Kodak and Coca-Cola. In the last two years or so of the program's run, Mrs. Nelson's kitchen featured Norge appliances, with a prominent washer and dryer that had a slanted control panel, each with a large dial in the center next to other buttons and switches.
There are print ads between 1955 and 1957 that refer to "Happy Hotpoint." In television ads this was Mary Tyler Moore, who often interacted with Harriet Nelson in featuring the benefits of the particular Hotpoint product. In some of the commercials, Miss Moore (dressed in a stylized devil's costume) tap danced on top of the appliances. In other ads, Miss Moore and Mrs. Nelson talked about the features of the appliance being highlighted.
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Post# 3385-8/4/2001-03:04 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: A message from your food coordinator, part I (New Orleans Bar)
MESSAGE: I recall Rhinnie's Sister's story: Back in the 70's she and her husband and another couple drove to New Orleans. She was just amazed with the sights in the French quarter. She related to Rhinnie that in one bar, they happen to peer into, all the guys were so drunk, they were dancing with each other!
What a sheltered life!
Steve 1-18
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Post# 3386-8/4/2001-03:17 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Yes, I'm still sick
MESSAGE: Sung to the tune on "Cat's in the Cradle" You are a sick puppy! You are going to get along just fine with this group!
Will have to combine your writing talents with Appnut. He wrote a song to the tune of Mrs. Brown you've got a lovely daughter, shortly after I found my first coppertone 1-18 pair (I named them Mr & Mrs Brown). Bob, bring your lyrics. Okay, who can play the piano?
Steve 1-18
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Post# 3387-8/4/2001-08:21 ||| syndets2000 (Nanjemoy, Md)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi, Everybody (Hi)
MESSAGE: My collection is fine, but the door boot on my L-100M, & my L102K have holes in them. My L5 has a leaky pump that I will try to deal with this weekend. I have just got back from the BOY SCOUT Jamboree at AP HILL....talk about enemy territory...
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Post# 3388-8/4/2001-10:32 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: A message from your food coordinator, part I (New Orleans Bar)
MESSAGE: I've been to that bar - she's right, consumption of alcohol is rampant and to add to the horror, during certain festivals, men and women disrobe and expose their privates for gifts of plastic beads thrown by onlookers from balconies above the street. I won't even mention the sexual acts being performed out in open, right on the street! Vile, absolutely vile!
I've never had so much fun in all my life!
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Post# 3389-8/4/2001-11:08 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi, Everybody (Westy Boot Replacements)
MESSAGE: Well, I'll bet you were glad to be back in safe, loving arms of your washers! I have one of the newer style boots to use for the L5 when I get my current projects done, which now will probably be after the convention and some divine intervention with this unearthly heat we have now.
When I went to buy the newer style boot, the appliance parts guru at Sundberg's suggested a neoprene FSP blower belt instead of the garter ring normally used. His thought was; the neoprene could be stretched to fit around the folded boot and wouldn't stretch over time thereby holding it securely. I'll have to let you know how this works. If it doesn't seem secure, I won't use it as it would be tragic to have it pop off in mid-cycle! Todd used a different garter ring that he made for this purpose from automotive parts.
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Post# 3390-8/4/2001-11:11 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: A message from your food coordinator, part deux
MESSAGE: Scott
Thanks for the splendid info,"salavating in anticipation" both sound perfect special places for the group...
As it is a regular of yours arnt you worried that the waitors might spill the beans, with tales of whoe to the highest bidders!!!!!!!!
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 3391-8/4/2001-11:16 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: A message from your food coordinator, part I (Worried& Concerned!!!!!)
MESSAGE: Robert
So you want to take the international delegation to a Gay Grungy French Hore House.!*.!*.!*.!*
Whatever would Miss. Hathaway say!!!
Actually sounds like home from home, what do you say louis!!!
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 3392-8/4/2001-12:30 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Yes, I'm still sick (Mrs. Brown)
MESSAGE: Mrs. Brown you've got a lovely agitator
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Post# 3393-8/4/2001-12:40 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Whirlpool Warshin' Masheen
MESSAGE: Introducing, the Whirlpool He3T Redneck Edition
It looks lik' a drier but it's a warshin' masheen
You stick yer close in thar and mash the buttons on the top.
You mash whatever button you is intendin' on whatever you got in there.
Here's sum of the cycles you can choose on:
Grandma's Panties - warshes real nice and slow like
Daddy's truck fixin' jeans - warshes real fast, gets the greeze out.
Mama's barmaid outfit - gets the beer and smoke smell outta the clothes.
As with the Calypso Rural edition, it has dem pretty lil' lights that shows what yer masheen is doin'.
Warsh - Goes round and round and the clothes fall in the water
Wrench - Puts some new water in so's the suds can come out.
Shake The Trailer - 1000 RPM's YEEEEEHAWWWWW!
The dryer also has a winder you can look in and watch your underwear go round and round.
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Post# 3394-8/4/2001-14:35 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Yes, I'm still sick
MESSAGE: Steve, I guess you didn't notice I have a piano in my family room, plus play at church. So, I may not be able to play many show tunes, but I'll work on Mrs. Brown. I'm also trying to come up with a full complement of verses for Turbo, to the tune of ABBA's Dancing Queen, called Rinsing Queen LOL.
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Post# 3395-8/4/2001-18:03 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: A message from your food coordinator, part I (Worried& Concerned!!!!!)
MESSAGE: I have never been to a French Hore House!!
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Post# 3396-8/4/2001-18:06 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Yes, I'm still sick
MESSAGE: You should not have mentioned Dancing or Rinsing Queen just before I go to bed. Now I will be in bed humming all night!!
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Post# 3397-8/4/2001-18:29 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 8/3/01 (Hotpoint Jingle)
MESSAGE: You have seen the "Happy Hotpoint" TV Commerical that I digitized, haven't you Spiralator?
Click on the link below, then select "Hotpoint jingle"
LINK: http://users.wcnet.net/dadoes/unisvideos/
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Post# 3398-8/4/2001-19:06 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 8/3/01 (Mary Tyler Moore)
MESSAGE: Mary Tyler Moore dressed as the devil dancing on top of an appliance? That I'd like to see. Yeah baby!
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Post# 3399-8/5/2001-06:48 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!! (convention)
MESSAGE: Scott, it's about 50-50. Varies somewhat from year to year. Sears sells about 1.5 million Kenmore washers annually. Whirlpool builds about 18,000 washers daily. Sears estimates there is a Kenmore in one of every two homes in America. O.K.....I just have to comment that after having had an opportunity to view most of the archived postings; to get some historical perspective, I am 'awestruck'! The amount of time and tireless effort put forth to create this forum by all is amazing. Product knowledge incredible! Everyone seems quite 'PC' and diversity has been covered as well. It's gonna be a fabulous time!
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Post# 3400-8/5/2001-10:02 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Yes, I'm still sick
MESSAGE: Luigi, so humming is a new euphanism for escapades in that locale!!! LOL
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Post# 3401-8/5/2001-10:25 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!! (Awesome forum)
MESSAGE: This is an awesome forum. Although, I don't have the same orientation as Uni and some of the others on this board, I'll try to be as respectful as I can.
I may be a straight guy but I love all washers and that's why I like this board. It's cool that so many other people share this interest. Yeah, I have a weird sense of humor (as you saw by songs and "redneck" jokes), but I enjoy hearing about those great old washin' machines.
By the way, my washer is a Whirlpool. It's a 1986 Design 2000 still going strong :-) It's a great washer but I'm hoping to get a Frigmore soon, and give my WP to someone that needs one.
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Post# 3402-8/5/2001-12:00 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!! (Awesome forum)
MESSAGE: Magic Clean and JasonL, we've all moved to this new board, but there are THOUSANDS more posts on the Yahoo ClassicAppliances club message board where the whole thing started. 19,517 posts when I checked a couple minutes ago. The first post is dated 9/24/1999.
Yahoo unfortunately does not provide a search function, so you can't search for specific subjects or keywords, but it would most definitely be worth your time to read through those posts. Lots of wonderful historical and technical information, as well as links to lots of pictures in the various Yahoo photo albums.
You might need to slip on a pair of boots now and then when the bull**** gets thick -- there was a ruckus at one point with a fellow name of Chad who . . . well, you'll see. 8-)
O M G! Chad came in on the SIXTH post on the original board. I didn't realize he had been there that long!
And Louise was the 12th post -- one of the founding fathers. ;-)
LINK: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/classicappliances
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Post# 3403-8/5/2001-12:00 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!! (Awesome forum)
MESSAGE: Magic Clean and JasonL, we've all moved to this new board, but there are THOUSANDS more posts on the Yahoo ClassicAppliances club message board where the whole thing started. 19,517 posts when I checked a couple minutes ago. The first post is dated 9/24/1999.
Yahoo unfortunately does not provide a search function, so you can't search for specific subjects or keywords, but it would most definitely be worth your time to read through those posts. Lots of wonderful historical and technical information, as well as links to lots of pictures in the various Yahoo photo albums.
You might need to slip on a pair of boots now and then when the bull**** gets thick -- there was a ruckus at one point with a fellow name of Chad who . . . well, you'll see. 8-)
O M G! Chad came in on the SIXTH post on the original board. I didn't realize he had been there that long!
And Louis was the 12th post -- one of the founding fathers. ;-)
LINK: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/classicappliances
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Post# 3404-8/5/2001-12:01 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!! (Awesome forum)
MESSAGE: All apologies, your Majesty, for referring to you as "Louise." I hit Esc to cancel the post, but it had already been caught.
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Post# 3405-8/5/2001-12:16 ||| appliguy (Vienna Va.)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 8/3/01 (MTM)
MESSAGE: Mary Tyler Moore only did those Hotpoint Commercials for approx. 1 year. She strated filming the first one the day after her high school graduation in 1955 and stopped in early 1956 when her pregnancy with her only child( son Richard Carlton Meeker Jr.) caused the nuetering elf costume to cause to much pain to her swelling breasts. Hotpoint then discontinued the Happy Hotpoint campaign because they felt that they couldn't suspend the character during Mary's pregnancy and then bring it back almost a year later. This info is available in Mary's autobiography After All.
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Post# 3406-8/5/2001-13:01 ||| jetcirclefill (Pensacola, Fl)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!! (Frigmore)
MESSAGE: jasonl, thought on appliances forum you said you already got your frigmore? Any one need a Maytag Tran. Display? eBay#1260168354
Tom
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Post# 3407-8/5/2001-13:19 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!! (Awesome forum)
MESSAGE: Actually before the Yahoo clubs there was a mailinglist about Classic Appliances, also founded by Jeff Adelphi. I posted for the first time on 7/4/1999. At that time there were only three members. I was not one of the founding fathers though, credits for Jeff Adelphi.
Louis
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Post# 3408-8/5/2001-13:20 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!! (Awesome forum)
MESSAGE: Hmm, I'll get my revenge!! LOL
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Post# 3409-8/5/2001-15:50 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!! (not yet)
MESSAGE: No. Don't have it yet, but soon maybe.
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Post# 3410-8/5/2001-15:51 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!! (not yet)
MESSAGE: No. Don't have it yet, but soon maybe.
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Post# 3411-8/5/2001-17:15 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT: Carrots in the microwave
MESSAGE: We tried it and it really does work!!
LINK: http://www.miami.com/herald/special/features/barry/2001/docs/aug05.htm
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Post# 3412-8/5/2001-18:04 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!! (Awesome forum)
MESSAGE: Jason, my comments were meant to be "toungue in cheek". It's terrific that this ultra-cool place exists to share our collective fondness for appliances. Gay, straight, whatever!!! Most everyone that I interface with has overdosed on appliances by the end of the day......the last thing they want to discuss is more appliances. I think my mid-century modern furniture collector friends feel my obsession is somewhat strange....and can't appreciate what we cherish. Furniture is much more celebrated. Heywood-Wakefield anyone? Can you imagine telling the uninitiated; I'm going to watch 1950's washers wash in Minneapolis? Well, hell I'm on my way to Minnie......to see some suds! By the way, we've got plenty of washers on porches and under palm trees.....ever hear of Yeehaw Junction. P.S. your D2K has plenty of good years ahead of it. I'll bet you've taken great care of that lady! My former 1986 set is chugging away in a hair salon laundry.
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Post# 3413-8/5/2001-18:16 ||| HQOTS (Not sure)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!! (Awesome forum)
MESSAGE: Yeehaw Junction...been there done that.
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Post# 3414-8/5/2001-19:13 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!! (Awesome forum)
MESSAGE: HQOTS......did you just recently get a Calypso? I think I remember your photos of it's adventure to your home. How do you like it?
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Post# 3415-8/5/2001-19:18 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!! (D2K)
MESSAGE: That's good to know. It runs and sounds like a solid machine, and EASY to fix. It's the Volkswagen of washing machines. Anyway, I wish I could be there at the wash-in. Maybe next time. Enjoy looking at the vintage Whirlpool machines and the Lady Kenmore. Listen to the sounds they make, especially the shift up into spin :-) I haven't heard that sound in 20 years.
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Post# 3416-8/5/2001-20:23 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!! (My Calypso)
MESSAGE: Yup, thats me. I love it and don't understand why people complain about the machine. OK, I do know why....they have no earthly clue on how to do laundry. They see that great big opening and figure they can jam pack the machine full of stuff, (which should really be two loads) and then complain about the machine not cleaning. Ididots That must be it.
Anyway I do really love the machine. It really is easy to use, most of the preprogramed settings don't have to be changed, it rinses very well and I can cut back on the detergent use too.
Maybe I'll get an HE3t when they are in the Outlet Store and I'll pass the Calypso on to another club member. Or maybe Sears and Whirlpool should appoint me as the new product test person. That would be great!!
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Post# 3417-8/5/2001-21:31 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!! (My Calypso)
MESSAGE: Glad to hear you are enjoying your machine. Have you had an opportunity to see what makes this thing 'tick'? It quite an engineering marvel. The unit is built like a 'tank'. The center-post spin and nutate shaft bearings are of a roller design, in lieu of the traditional bronze sleeve that you see on the belt and D2K. Also, the nutate mechanism and u-joint is quite ingenious. Anyway, you are correct.....the machine can produce excellent results when used correctly. Many tens of thousands have been sold and the vast majority are pleased. But with such a radically different design, there are lots of opinions, judgements and theories on the whys and wherefores. Also, we are dealing with a whole new customer when they spending unprecedented $$$ amounts for laundry equipment. Expectations are very high. My whites are swishing away as I write. By the way, Florida was 1 of 5 test markets. There were about 200 Calypso'....they were called Vanguard then, and we had so many favorable comments from here and the other test regions. The testing lasted about a year and the test families really wanted to keep the machine. Keep us posted. By the way, I think it's pretty neat how the sound of the nutation sounds like a GM Frigidaire on the more intense cycles. Waaay cool!
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Post# 3418-8/5/2001-22:20 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: The Bearing that Roars No More
MESSAGE: We'll there is not going to be any Estate Sale Saturday pictures to show off for the next couple of weeks as I concentrate on getting things ready for the convention.
This saturday I worked all day on changing the spin ball bearing in the 1949 Maytag AMP as it was starting to roar. We can't have roaring bearings at the convention you know. Jetcone will be there with his white gloves on!! LOL!
Unfortunately in the early models, you have to take the entire machine apart to get to the bearing.
Here are some pictures of the work, plus a preview of more pictures to come...
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/miscbrands00/lst?&.dir=/quick+share&.src=ph&.view=t&.last=1&.last=1
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Post# 3419-8/5/2001-00:00 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: The Bearing that Roars No More (And Then??)
MESSAGE: You just lift out the old bearing and drop in the new one, right?
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Post# 3420-8/6/2001-03:09 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Estate Sale Finds
MESSAGE: While Robert tended to roaring bearings, I was out making a haul. I have attached some pictures which include some finds of recent weeks as well that are now all cleaned up and ready for the convention! In addition to what you see in the pictures, I also found some pieces for my obscure Tupperware piece collection and some nice extra bakeware pieces.
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/homoha2001/lst?.dir=/Vac+Estate+update+August+5+2001&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/homoha2001/lst%3f.dir=/Vac%2bEstate%2bupdate%2bAugust%2b5%2b2001%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 3421-8/6/2001-03:26 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Carrots in the microwave (SOunds like fun)
MESSAGE: What did you do exactly?
We have just got a new microwave so I will get the old one out and have a play...
Big Carrot Boy
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Post# 3422-8/6/2001-05:37 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: A message from your food coordinator, part I
MESSAGE: Louis, you can be the dancer in front of the group. Greg will instruct you on making something suitable from cocktail napkins and when the singers take a break, we will ask the pianist to play the "Dance of the Seven Veils" for your interpretation. The piano transcription should be wild enough in itself. TT
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Post# 3423-8/6/2001-05:39 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: A message from your food coordinator, part I (bathroom size dance floor)
MESSAGE: Good heavens, you mean a polka could turn into a poka?
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Post# 3424-8/6/2001-05:42 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: A message from your food coordinator, part I ("
Idon't sing or dance, but I can watch."
)
MESSAGE: Lady Timex
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Post# 3425-8/6/2001-05:47 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Hmmm... (agitators in the foam)
MESSAGE: Greg, you would have been the only one there with two agitators, the one on your head and the other down in the foam like everyone else's. TT
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Post# 3426-8/6/2001-05:50 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Shipping services (shipping, and the convention)
MESSAGE: Steve, good to see a post from you. Best wishes, Tom
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Post# 3427-8/6/2001-06:12 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Loved the picture of the day. (FKB)
MESSAGE: Man, talk about research on a show! You must have another field of deep interest out there. We have tons of books about that stuff upstairs in the Motion Picture, Broadcast & Recorded Sound Division, but I have never looked up FKB. I don't know which Leave it to Beaver you are talking about, but there was a LITB reunion show in the early 80s that I watched one Saturday night with the TV set at the top of the stairs while I painted the risers. Wally worked out in just his pj bottoms!!!! Hunk-o-ramma. Jerry Mathers appeared as the Hindenburg. Something similar with product placement happened partway thorugh My Three Sons when they moved and the Frigidaire appliances were gone. The Frigidaire appliances were a lot better than the triplets. Long after Hotpoint stopped sponsoring Ozzie & Harriette(sp?), the appliances stayed HP, but then there was that disastrous season when the Norge Fedders stuff showed up in the kitchen and the stove was gas!! After listening to that blonde neighbor with the voice that starts each day in Hell, I understood why. The gas oven was there as a source of escape for those on the set who had heard enough of her. I'll bet that like me you enjoy watching old movies for appliance spotting. Thanks again for the neat information. TT
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Post# 3428-8/6/2001-06:20 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Carrots in the microwave (SOunds like fun)
MESSAGE: Just cut the carrot in half length wise and place both pieces in the nuker at an angle so that only the top corner of both are touching. We set the timer for 5 mins but it only took a few seconds for the flame show to start. As soon as that happened I shut the microwave off. Try to explain that one to your homeowners insurance company.
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Post# 3429-8/6/2001-06:27 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 8/3/01 (HP commercials)
MESSAGE: David Nelson alluded to that in one of the tributes to his brother. He talked about watching tapes of the show with his kids and how his children throught it was so hokey that Harriet talked about the way her Hotpoint washer rinsed, so he explained the commercials. He has the tapes complete with the commercials; what a treasure. I remember when Kodak sponsored the show and Rick was the last one out the door and he had a Brownie around his neck. To quote a friend of long ago, nicka nocka nu nu. TT
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Post# 3430-8/6/2001-06:35 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!! (Appliance Reality)
MESSAGE: Have you looked at the original club on Yahoo? Talk about lots of appliance talk!! TT
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Post# 3431-8/6/2001-06:52 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!! (Respect)
MESSAGE: Yes, Jason1, respect is the word. This club was founded by Gay men better than 20 years ago, has been sustained by Gay men and brought into the competer age by Gay men so we are not the outsiders here, but the majority. We are glad that you enjoy what we have created now that it has moved into cyber-space. For a very long time we did not know anybody who shared our interest who was not Gay so being on the web has been an eye-opener for us as well. I think Martha would agree that it is a good thing. Tom
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Post# 3432-8/6/2001-07:05 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!! (Yeehaw Junction)
MESSAGE: Leslie, I have a tee shirt that says, "Where in the hell is Vero Beach? About 30 miles east of Yeehaw Junction." TT
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Post# 3433-8/6/2001-07:18 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!! (Calypso)
MESSAGE: Leslie, Whirlpool John, his brother Jeff_Adelphi and I went to service training on the Calypso and took the thing apart and put it back together. As long as the gasket keeps water out of the u joint assembly it should run a long time. The trainer was interested in our old combos and said he would help us get tranny parts for them. He had worked on the design of the lint storage dryer and said that the direct drive washer tubs come apart at more than 800 rpm in spin speed tests. This might have been said for my benefit because we had told him how we have souped up machines to make them spin faster. When John, Jason, his partner Carl and I went to the KBIS in Orlando, we visited a friend in the area with a Calypso and we revived a formerly white terry cloth robe on "Whitest Whites." TT
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Post# 3434-8/6/2001-07:24 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Finds (Obscure Tupperware pieces)
MESSAGE: Scott, I wanted to see the Tupper pieces! I have found some old pieces over the years that nobody knows about. tom
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Post# 3435-8/6/2001-07:34 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!! (Respect)
MESSAGE: You just have to keep an eye on those unbalanced ones and try not to make the OOB switch trip, which is not that hard to do.
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Post# 3436-8/6/2001-07:35 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The Bearing that Roars No More (And Then??)
MESSAGE: We'll first you've got to remove the 3 retaining screws, then you can pound it out and gently pound in the new one.
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Post# 3437-8/6/2001-07:37 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Finds (Great Finds)
MESSAGE: Very nice finds Scott! I'm so glad you went anyway, just in case the Apex decided to rear its pretty head this weekend.
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Post# 3438-8/6/2001-07:37 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Finds (Obscure Tupperware pieces)
MESSAGE: We went to a couple of sales this weekend and found mostly nothing, but we did see a lot of Tupperware at one sale. There was nothing really unusual, but the prices. You'd think that they were selling gold pie keepers!
I did find a Hoover Dustette in the box and a Sunbeam Ironmaster in beautiful shape and a few fun tea towels from the 40's/50's.
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Post# 3439-8/6/2001-07:53 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!! (r-e-s-p-e-c-t sock it to me sock it to me sock it to me)
MESSAGE: I didn't know your club was around that long. I thought it was just people like me here and there that thought old stuff was cool.
So I guess I'm the outsider here, then.
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Post# 3440-8/6/2001-08:57 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!! (You)
MESSAGE: You're not an outsider Jason, just a newcomer! All you have to do is like appliances here and you're an automatic insider. It doesn't matter what kind of person any member is as we celebrate diversity of all kinds here, we're all about how cool appliances are!
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Post# 3441-8/6/2001-09:07 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!! (YAY!)
MESSAGE: That's just great :)
Thanks, Uni
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Post# 3442-8/6/2001-10:06 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Finds (Obscure Tupperware pieces)
MESSAGE: Greg, did you get the Dustette, or was somebody else wanting it and there was a dustup? Is the Ironmaster dry or steam/dry? My dry iron is the open handle Westinghouse with the big pointer. Thursday night there was a refrigerator at B&S that was still cold. There was an unopened half gallon of Costco's store brand of cranberry juice which John took AND a Tupper 2 qt pitcher, the oval translucent pebbly textured one with the handle and blue cap that was empty but still taken away with the rest of the stuff so now John has one. I have two of them for pineapple juice. TT
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Post# 3443-8/6/2001-10:07 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention reality!!! (r-e-s-p-e-c-t sock it to me sock it to me sock it to me)
MESSAGE: Jason1, no, you are a club member. We don't have outsiders, except for those who have "outsided" themselves. Tom
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Post# 3444-8/6/2001-10:33 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: A message from your food coordinator, part I
MESSAGE: I can't picture what you mean, I think you'll have to show me including the suitable clothing!
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Post# 3445-8/6/2001-11:51 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT: Dancing Queen
MESSAGE: Carl and I worked on our version of Dancing Queen for Tom and with Tom's final OK on the song here it is.......Hope you enjoy..
You can wash, you can dry
Having the time of your life
See that boy, wash those clothes
Dig, him the rinsing queen
Friday night and the cycle’s done
Searching round for more dirty clothes
Where’d he put the detergent, got to get them clean
You’ve got to look for the stains
Any cycle just won’t do
Wash has started and the suds are high
With a bit of Calgon, everything comes clean
You feel it’s time for a rinse
And when you get the chance
You are the rinsing queen, fresh and clean, using 20 Mule Team
Rinsing queen feel the beat of the 1-18, oh yeah
You can wash, you can dry
Having the time of your life
See that boy wash those clothes
Dig, him the rinsing queen
You’re a rinser, you do it twice
Spin them out, then the dryer’s on
Lookin’ round for another, any clothes will do
You’re in the mood for a rinse
And when you get the chance
You are the rinsing queen, fresh and clean, using 20 Mule Team
Rinsing queen feel the beat of the 1-18, oh yeah
You can wash, you can dry
Having the time of your life
See that boy wash those clothes
Dig him, the rinsing queen
Dig him, the rinsing queen.
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Post# 3446-8/6/2001-12:07 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen (WOO!)
MESSAGE: Dang! That was awesome
Have y'all ever heard the song "Brimful of Asha" by Cornershop?
Frigidaire washer 1955
Frigidaire washer 1955
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Post# 3447-8/6/2001-12:37 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen (2 more songs)
MESSAGE: I went to a concert last Friday, kinda a song writer's thing from the Blue Bird Cafe in Nashville... Anyway, a guy named George Gerdes did a song about sticking his head in a Frigidaire (refrigerator, that is). Then Mark Johnson did a song about how the whole neighborhood knows how Helen does her laundry.
-ph
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Post# 3448-8/6/2001-12:41 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: WCDN 1967
MESSAGE: Found a 1967 (from the wiring chart on the back of the machine) WCDN. Never saw one like this: 4 speed selections (normal, delicate, durable knits and permanent press), independed wash and rinse temp selectors, and an infinite water level control. It appears that as the machine fills, a certain about of water is directed into a reservoir under the outer tub where a float cuts off the water after it reaches a certain height. I took the top, and asked the guys in the shop to remove the Jet Action agitator so that I could remove the "guts" for keeping.
-ph
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Post# 3449-8/6/2001-12:58 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Finds (Obscure Tupperware pieces)
MESSAGE: Tom, I'll show you what I have when I come over. I don't think I have anything too unusual, but I have several nice pieces I've found that I think are no longer available, but that my mom has and I always have liked.
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Post# 3450-8/6/2001-12:58 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Finds (Obscure Tupperware pieces)
MESSAGE: Oops, I mean when you come over, LOL
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Post# 3451-8/6/2001-13:04 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Finds (Great Finds)
MESSAGE: Thanks! I always think of that too, in case I would find something like an Apex...but alas, the only thing close to vintage in that department this week was a late 60s BOL GE dryer. Of course, of the 6 sales I went to, 2 were yard sales (just drove right by) and 2 had the basement closed, so it wasn't much of a basement day. The two Hoovers I found that day each came from one of the two basements.
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Post# 3452-8/6/2001-13:43 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Finds (Obscure Tupperware pieces)
MESSAGE: ...and I'll be interested to compare notes and hear about some of the pieces you have!
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Post# 3453-8/6/2001-18:21 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen (WHOOPS)
MESSAGE: It should be..Rinsing Queen NOT Dancing Queen........guess I was preoccupied.
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Post# 3454-8/6/2001-20:02 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen
MESSAGE: Jason, you're not gonna believe this. I can't "bear" it. Your and my versions are very very similar. I rest my brain case.
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Post# 3455-8/6/2001-20:49 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen (the best lyric)
MESSAGE: "Feel the beat of the 1-18"
such genious.
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Post# 3456-8/6/2001-21:30 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen
MESSAGE: I LOVE IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post# 3457-8/6/2001-21:52 ||| worldtravler (Detroit/Ypsilanti, MI)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen
MESSAGE: Absolutely precious!! I ran and got my ABBA cd and read the new lyrics while listening to this old favorite. We really have some creative people out there!!
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Post# 3458-8/6/2001-22:56 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen
MESSAGE: I can see the road tour now.....a big bus with a huge Jet-Cone agitator on the top and 1-18 window lids for windows - all in pink and blue!
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Post# 3459-8/6/2001-23:42 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Conventioners: Need your nametag info now!
MESSAGE: My dear "Unconventional Conventioners" I need to make sure I have everyone's info (or at least names) for the nametags so double check the list below to make sure I have your name. If not email me soon with your Name, Club ID name, city and choice of wallpaper.
I have:
tlee618
foraloysius
steve 1-18 & Rhinnie
appnut
DaDoES
tomturbomatic
John Lefever
PeterH770
geodon2000 & Jeff
chestermikeuk
golittlesport & Gary
Scott55405
unimatic1140
I may have had some "evaporation" of a couple in Yahoo mail, so don't kill me if you emailed me and I don't have you down. You can email me at either gansky1@yahoo.com or gansky1@home.com with your info.
I got pinback tags so we'll have them for the whole weekend if desired (and a lovely parting gift as well) but if there are any concerns about those sharp pins through taffeta or chiffon blouses, let me know and I'll switch them for the clip style.
Only 10 more days!!!!
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Post# 3460-8/6/2001-00:45 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen
MESSAGE: Woo Hoo!
Love Abba. Always loved Abba! Mamma Mia has just opened in Melbourne and is selling out big time!
I have a theory that everyone loves Abba. Those that say they dont are lying.
One in 4 Australians own an Abba recording. I own about 20.
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Post# 3461-8/7/2001-05:35 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: WCDN 1967
MESSAGE: Peter, I have used a machine like this. The metered fill was an upper end of the line feature thrown into this machine. The difference between Wash and Wear (normal wash slow spin) and PP (slow wash normal spin) gave the machine a full range of speeds, although slow agitate with the cone did not do a lot and with just a 660 top spin, normal was the setting we used most. The machine used a special pump to empty the collector reservoir. The pump has a special fitting, is very expensive and hard to find. Congrats on the find. TT
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Post# 3462-8/7/2001-05:38 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen (WHOOPS)
MESSAGE: Yeah, preoccupied with the hunky Brinks man installing the security system. Thanks again for the song. TT
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Post# 3463-8/7/2001-06:52 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: Tom Turbo
MESSAGE: Did you get my email about where the vent was on the new fully-integrated KA models? Also, I now know I have the non-phosphate version of Calgon water softener. Is it still worth using with my detergent. I'm also including Borax in really dirty loads.
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Post# 3464-8/7/2001-08:14 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire "1-18" advice please
MESSAGE: Hey guys, can you help?
As I explained before, I’m having trouble with the timer on my “new” Frigidaire 1-18. You’ve got to pull out on the timer to keep the machine running. I’ve learned that there’s a replaceable pin in the timer that will take care of the problem, but it’s no longer available. Does anyone out there have any knowledge of, or experience with this? It’s GM part # 5306599990.
I’ll continue to search locally for this small part, but I was wondering if anyone out there (Jon, Tom, John?) might know about this common timer problem or perhaps happen to have one of these plastic pins they can sell to me. Please let me know. Also, any advice on gold or harvest gold color touch-up paint for the cabinet on these machines? The GM paint of course isn’t available anymore. Is my best bet trying to computer match it at Home Depot? I don't want to be stuck with two full quarts of the two shades of gold paint.
Thanks,
Ken
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Post# 3465-8/7/2001-09:00 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen (WHOOPS)
MESSAGE: That's super cute, and I love Abba (imagine that).
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Post# 3466-8/7/2001-09:05 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Conventioners: Need your nametag info now!
MESSAGE: Lets see, I don't see
Ken and Jim
John Eichinger (Bendix logo for John) and Dan
Karen (Miss Jet Cone)
Jetcone
Jeff and Cal
Gary Weible (Maytag Fan)
Who else did we miss????
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Post# 3467-8/7/2001-09:09 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire "1-18" advice please (Call Midwest Timer Service)
MESSAGE: Hi Ken, just save yourself some trouble and order a rebuilt timer for the machine from Midwest Timer Service, there right in your home state of Michigan at Benton Harbor.
Their Number is 1-800-253-7260.
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Post# 3468-8/7/2001-09:19 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo
MESSAGE: Bob, John says the vent is up near the top of the door which might be why the steam is damaging wood counters. He said anyone with one of those machines has no business with wood or particleboard countertops. Rude, no? I guess the no-phos Calgon is better than nothing, but I don't like it. If I find any phosphated Calgon on the trip, I will be forced to buy and ship. I don't know that Borax is that great a cleaning booster as much as a deodorizer so unless the load is garments like shirts that develop perspiration odors, I would not waste the Borax, but don't stop on my account if you see good results. For my perma press type loads, I use detergent, Clorox 2 and borax with Final Touch in the last rinse and find that adequate. Tom
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Post# 3469-8/7/2001-09:37 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo
MESSAGE: Oh Greg, I almost forgot.
Donald Haggerty from New Haven, CT called and said he was going to try and make it. He is definately a Frigidaire boy as he has quite a few in his collection, including a WO-65-2, WI-57 Control Tower and a Rapidry Roller-Matic.
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Post# 3470-8/7/2001-09:38 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (RE: Conventioners: Need your nametag info now!)
MESSAGE: Oops that meant to be a reply to RE: Conventioners: Need your nametag info now!
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Post# 3471-8/7/2001-11:19 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen (go see Mama Mia)
MESSAGE: Hi Aaarough
Get tickets to go see Mama Mia! You will love it. We saw it when it was in LA and it was fantastic. We had a blast!!!
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Post# 3472-8/7/2001-12:48 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen
MESSAGE: Really cool!!!!! OK, I guess there will be some Singing Queens singing Rinsing Queens. We'd better start singing behind the computer!!
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Post# 3473-8/7/2001-12:55 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Conventioners: Need your nametag info now!
MESSAGE: Silly, you forgot yourself!!
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Post# 3474-8/7/2001-12:59 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo
MESSAGE: In what form do you get Borax? Powder, liquid? Overhere I only know Borax as an ingredient for soap, but then again I have never searched for Borax. I might want to try that on my white t-shirts. Since I have a new deodorant there are stains I can't get out.
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Post# 3475-8/7/2001-13:01 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen (WHOOPS)
MESSAGE: No suprise ofcourse after reading how you scored on the gay men thing!!
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Post# 3476-8/7/2001-14:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen (WHOOPS)
MESSAGE: I scored 78%, you know what that means!
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Post# 3477-8/7/2001-14:56 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (Calgon)
MESSAGE: Hi Tom, how can you tell the difference between the two Calgons? Does one specifically state "non phosphate" on the box? We have just one version here in Canada and it doesn't state on it if it has phosphates or not.
Eddy
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Post# 3478-8/7/2001-15:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Call for Old Clothes
MESSAGE: Attention Appliancevillers:
At the convention I want to have two to three washers running at one time, all the time. It's going to be like a 3-Ring Circus and people can stay and watch an entire cycle or move around and see each machine and get bits and pieces of the each cycle. With 30 people it would be will be hard for all to see just one machine at one time, but if we split it up there will be more room for everyone to view the machines.
While I have lots of towels which can be washed, dried, made dirty again, and rewashed, it would be great to have lots of old clothes. If any of you guys have some old clothes that you've been meaning to throw away or donate to the Goodwill or whatever, could you put them in a box and ship them to me. Since clothes are rather light it shouldn't cost too much to UPS them. We could then get them dirty with, back yard dirt, mustard, ketchup, coke-cola, grape juice, and who knows what else, then wash them, dry them and do it all over again.
We could then donate the clothes (the ones that we can get the stains out that is) to the local Goodwill.
Something to think about.
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Post# 3479-8/7/2001-16:22 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen (WHOOPS)
MESSAGE: I only got 72%. I guess the difference is in your picture in a wedding gown LOL.
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Post# 3480-8/7/2001-16:32 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen (WHOOPS)
MESSAGE: And maybe its also due to the fact that whenever I answer the phone and its a telephone solicitor calling (we hate them), they ask me if this is Mrs. Robert Seger and I usually reply by saying, no it's Ms. Seger.
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Post# 3481-8/7/2001-17:44 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen (Speeding Queen)
MESSAGE: Perfect... Perfect!!!!
Now all we need to know is who`s going to be the "Blonde With The Boots"
Whats with the 20 mule team????
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 3482-8/7/2001-17:55 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen (% & Whatever)
MESSAGE: Robert
No I dont, do tell!!! or perhaps you`d better wait till we`re there next week!!!
One more thing we need for the convention---- Copious ammounts of the vitamins that you take, you never stop all the hard work. or..... let us into you secret!!!! ( could it be like Hyacynth perhaps, mashed Swede , as a moisturiser, as a face pack and as a draft excluder )!!!
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 3483-8/7/2001-18:03 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (Who wants phosphate Calgon?)
MESSAGE: I have been buying Calgon water softener with phosphate (11% by volume) forever. The last time I grabbed a box of Calgon at the grocery, I was pouring some out when I realized it was non-phosphate. I looked at my regular store the other day and they have the phosphate formula, but I have to force myself to use up the open box before I buy more. If I don't, this box will be at my estate sale someday.
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Post# 3484-8/7/2001-18:38 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo
MESSAGE: Well shucks. The underside of my countertops are unvarnished wood. I guess that means all KAs, the related Kenmore Elites, Tall-Tub Whirlpools, and the related Kenmores are all out then? I'm gonna have to settle for a Maytag??? I dunno, I may just have to rig up some sort of "extension shield" around the vent to get the steam further away from the countertop. I don't care how it looks, I just want the best dishwasher available on the market when I have to replace mine, hopefully not for a while.
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Post# 3485-8/7/2001-19:06 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Conventioners: Need your nametag info now!
MESSAGE: Have Ken & Jim's and Karen's today (thanks!!) and good to have the rest now too - thanks Robert. I knew there were more!
Nine more days!
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Post# 3486-8/7/2001-19:09 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo
MESSAGE: Sounds like a fun addition! Does he rebuild/restore them too?
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Post# 3487-8/7/2001-19:16 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Call for Old Clothes
MESSAGE: Good idea! Do you want the clothes dirty when we ship them? Could be some fun surprises!
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Post# 3488-8/7/2001-19:19 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen (20 Mule Team Borax)
MESSAGE: It's a brand name - here's a link to the site. Be sure to check out what the "Queen of Clean" has to say!
LINK: http://www.dialcorp.com/index.cfm?page_id=55
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Post# 3489-8/7/2001-19:22 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen (20 Mule Team Borax)
MESSAGE: That woman took my name!!!!!! How rude.
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Post# 3490-8/7/2001-19:28 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (Style or Substance? Have your cake and eat it too!)
MESSAGE: If moisture is a problem, you can just varnish or otherwise seal the underside of the counter-top before installing the new dishwasher. Is that GE starting to stumble?
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Post# 3491-8/7/2001-19:31 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen (20 Mule Team Borax)
MESSAGE: You should sue!
Have you done any large spreads or comforters in your Calypso? Tell us about lint, sand and hair removal too! Please?
Greg
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Post# 3492-8/7/2001-21:39 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen (20 Mule Team Borax)
MESSAGE: I think I just might do that.
It's almost the same as washing them in a front loader. I've washed my king size comforter in it twice and it came out beautiful. I have not had any problem with sand or lint, which is amazing. The hair thing is a different story. Brownie is always leaving his hair everywhere. Tom can vouch for that. The calypso, like the front loaders I have owned do not remove that much of his hair from either the sheets or the comforter. In the front loader the hair would be in balls sticking to whatever was washed. In the calypso the hair is kinda evenly distributed. It all comes off in the dryer. Actually, thats about the only thing left in the lint filter period. It's amazing how much the linting has been reduced with the Calypso. Even more than with the front loaders. Now I don't have to clean the lint filter after each use. Well it's not like I ever did anyway. OOPS...did I admit to that?
Jason
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Post# 3493-8/7/2001-00:40 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: intercontinental english
MESSAGE: I have noticed on this club, yahoo and that home site as well as in my scouring international home and garden magazines diverent things.
In Aus we have Doona's. In the UK they have Duvets and the States have Comforters.
We cook on the stove, while the Brits use a cooker and the Americans have Ranges.
Any other idiosynracies in the English langauge has anyone else pciked up on?
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Post# 3494-8/7/2001-00:53 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen (20 Mule Team Borax)
MESSAGE: I would be very worried about someone who had sand in there doona!
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Post# 3495-8/7/2001-01:00 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: intercontinental english
MESSAGE: The ones I recognize are mostly British ones, I think....for instance, in America we call an appliance connection an electrical CORD, the British call it a cable. If we receive a letter or bill, we get "the mail" while the British call it "the post". We say "wastebasket" or "trash can", the British say "dust bin". Some of us also use brand names for generic things...the British often say "Hoover" for any vacuum cleaner, some of us here say "Frigidaire" for any refrigerator, "Jello" for gelatin, that sort of thing. I could go on and on...in fact, here in the United States, there are many nuances like this even from state to state or region to region. Some people call a soft drink of any flavor "a coke" or "soda", in Minnesota it is generally called "pop". Some say "sneakers", some call them "tennis shoes". It's fun to see, hear and compare all the different versions of things!
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Post# 3496-8/7/2001-01:17 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen (20 Mule Team Borax)
MESSAGE: Zout??? That is dutch for salt!!
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Post# 3497-8/7/2001-01:21 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: intercontinental english
MESSAGE: Your Majesty,
We don't want to forget that in the US most of the time the word washer is used for what the British call a washing machine.
QLOTOC
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Post# 3498-8/7/2001-01:30 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: intercontinental english
MESSAGE: We have sauce amd you have ketchuo. We have footpaths and you have side walks. We have Rubbish and put it in a rubbish bin. It gets collected by the Garbo.
You should see the differnece between Sydney and Melbourne slang. And then we have Queensland by they are so slow.
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Post# 3499-8/7/2001-01:39 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: intercontinental english (Doing the Hoovering)
MESSAGE: I love how the British "Hoover". My Gran alawys says things like that. What alarms me is that in the UK Hoover is losing ground to Dyson rapidly. So they look space age, but they came last in our Choice magazine test. Actually the work copy of Choice arrived today and they had a report on Budget vacuum cleaners. the Hoover Breeze cam first. It removed significanlty more dirt than all the other vacuums. Hoover always come first in the test resuls, but they usaulaly make a comment about noise or some other petty point like that.
I love to in the UK that the dept stores have these huge catalogues like the yello pages. The appliance section is fantastic with a picture and description of each machine. I try to get my Dad to bring me one home every time he goes back home but he complains that the weight is too much and he will be over his allowance. i have to make do with the latest UK motorin magazine.
Hoovers forever!!
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Post# 3500-8/8/2001-02:05 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: intercontinental english (Doing the Hoovering)
MESSAGE: Hoover is not what it used to be, but I am not impressed with the Dyson stuff at all. Remember the Constellation? Hoover was "space age" before Dyson was ever a glint in anyone's eye! :)
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Post# 3501-8/8/2001-02:58 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen (Talking Dirty)
MESSAGE: Greg
Now I`ve just got to get a copy of that book " Talking dirty with the Queen of Clean"!!!!
Whats the chances of a bookshop selling it in the mall at our visit!!!
Mike
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Post# 3502-8/8/2001-03:28 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: intercontinental english (The English Stove)
MESSAGE: Hi Arrrooohhh
Us Brits also use the word "Stove" rather than cooker certainly in the north anyway..
Rather like Hoover for Hoovering, "Stoves" is the name of a rather quaint English company based in "Rainhill" (where Stephensons Rocket locamotive train trials took place) in the North of England, been making "Stoves" since the 1930`s.
They have just launched a new "Range of Cookers" designed by a friend of mine Chris Parker.... I`m just having the DFA1200 fitted as we speak in my brand new kitchen.(I`ve purposly made sure its not finished until I return from the convention so I can use it first Ha! Ha!)
Check out the web site (Louis, links to Royalty as well)and let me know what you all think of D2C????
Cheers, Mike
LINK: www.cookersetc.com
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Post# 3503-8/8/2001-03:34 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: intercontinental english (Links n Links)
MESSAGE:
Link is WWW.cookersetc.com
Robert you`ll have to give us a lesson on this one at the convention!!!
LINK: http://www.cookersetc.com
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Post# 3504-8/8/2001-05:36 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo
MESSAGE: Louis, Thought of you when CNN showed some big Gay celebration in Europe with boats full of men on canals. I don't know borax's effectiveness on stains, Rosemary DeCamp's advice notwithstanding, but borax is sold as a powder. It is mined here; in Death Valley, California, originally and is the mineral hydrated sodium borate. It is a type of water softener, but not as good as original Calgon. For deodorant stains, I find that spraying the area with aerosol Shout before washing seems to take them out. I can just see now all the laundry products you will have to show customs. TT
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Post# 3505-8/8/2001-05:50 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (Calgon)
MESSAGE: Eddy, the boxes I have seen have a statement on the side saying the phosphate content can be determined by a code that is stamped in the white box just below this statement. I think that there might be 3 codes. Z or N, depending on how it is stamped, vertical or horizontal, means no phosphates. I think R means there is a reduced percentage of phosphate and there might be one other letter for a greater amount. Tom
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Post# 3506-8/8/2001-05:53 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen (% & Whatever)
MESSAGE: Mashed Swede, at least one in particular, was sort of my fantasy about ABBA. TT
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Post# 3507-8/8/2001-05:57 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (Who wants phosphate Calgon?)
MESSAGE: Greg, yeah the phosphate stuff has the pretty blue crystals in it and the non phosphate version is just white crystals like the cheap store brand water softener. Both the non-phosphate Calgon, at twice the price, and the store brand leave a white powdery residue in the WO 65-2. The phosphate version is wonderful. Take the non-phos version upstairs and use in the bathtub on a damp cloth to remove soap film. Sorry, I forgot I was addressing a cleaning expert. TT
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Post# 3508-8/8/2001-05:58 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo
MESSAGE: Or, you could apply some marine grade polyurethane to the underside of the counter!!! TT
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Post# 3509-8/8/2001-06:01 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen (20 Mule Team Borax)
MESSAGE: When Leona dies, I get her title. TT
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Post# 3510-8/8/2001-06:06 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen (hair & Carmen Calypso)
MESSAGE: I suggested that he could shake out these things outside before washing if the hair was such a problem. TT
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Post# 3511-8/8/2001-06:09 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen (Sandy donna)
MESSAGE: You don't know Florida. Sand is a fact of life there, as are ants. That was one reason why solid tub washers like Frigidaires did not do really well there sales-wise. TT
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Post# 3512-8/8/2001-06:11 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: intercontinental english
MESSAGE: In the US we say the third prong in an electrical plug is the ground. Australian friends said something was earthed, not grounded. TT
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Post# 3513-8/8/2001-06:17 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: intercontinental english (The English Stove)
MESSAGE: "stove" is also a British term for classifying greenhouses that have to be kept very warm. TT
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Post# 3514-8/8/2001-06:19 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: intercontinental english (Links n Links)
MESSAGE: Good heavens, it's gas. TT
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Post# 3515-8/8/2001-06:22 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (Style or Substance? Have your cake and eat it too!)
MESSAGE: No, no stumble in the least, that I'm perceiving. It's used about once or twice a week. I'm just wanting to be prepared to satisfy my lust if/whenever it does go. But with the rapid advance timer, it's one of the last of that breed, so it's kinda classic in unto itself. Racks are rusting, Steve 1-18 may be bringing new racks next summer when they come do their Texas visiting.
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Post# 3516-8/8/2001-07:44 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen (Talking Dirty)
MESSAGE: I'd think you should be able to find the books at the mall, this "queen of clean" looks like she's pretty popular. Did you see the online store she has? I've never been a fan of lambswool or dusting mitts.
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Post# 3517-8/8/2001-07:48 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (Who wants phosphate Calgon?)
MESSAGE: There's no soapy film in my tub! The very idea!
I will admit though, I cleaned a black rubber drain tub seal for the SQ in the bathtub the other night and when Skyler saw the smudges left behind, he decided our tub was old and we need a new one. A little Bon Ami and it was back to normal.
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Post# 3518-8/8/2001-09:16 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (Who wants phosphate Calgon?)
MESSAGE: I did not mean that there was film, only that it could be used in your constant cleaning to prevent build up. I have this wretched 144 inch clear smooth vinyl shower curtain that surrounds my clawfoot tub and it shows everything. The other morning I got in there with Wisk on a wet washcloth and washed the curtain and rinsed it with the hand held shower and it looked better than it has in a long time. With the blue goo, it was easy to see where I had washed and where I had not. I have not had success with those daily sprays because they make the curtain look bad when the stuff dries. TT Queen of the Unclean
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Post# 3519-8/8/2001-09:33 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen (% & Whatever)
MESSAGE: You'll see the "secret vitamin" next week.
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Post# 3520-8/8/2001-09:34 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo
MESSAGE: Yes, I believe so, to a smaller extent he does.
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Post# 3521-8/8/2001-09:34 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Call for Old Clothes
MESSAGE: Clean will be fine, we can dirty them in the "dirtying station".
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Post# 3522-8/8/2001-09:36 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen (Talking Dirty)
MESSAGE: Mike, I see that book all over, so I bet we'll find ya a copy.
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Post# 3523-8/8/2001-09:38 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: intercontinental english (Links n Links)
MESSAGE: One this one I will probably needs some lessons myself before I could teach it.
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Post# 3524-8/8/2001-09:41 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (Who wants phosphate Calgon?)
MESSAGE: The kind I buy always has the pretty blue crystals in it! So I bet the phosphate version is available here. Its hard to find but I buy it at the Super-Value at 18th & Nicollet Avenue South.
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Post# 3525-8/8/2001-09:53 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen (20 Mule Team Borax)
MESSAGE: Oh dear.
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Post# 3526-8/8/2001-10:36 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (Style or Substance? Have your cake and eat it too!)
MESSAGE: Do the modern electronic dishwashers with no timer dial use rapid advance timers, or is this done in another way now? Our KA Superbas of course had that feature.
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Post# 3527-8/8/2001-10:37 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (Who wants phosphate Calgon?)
MESSAGE: ...a boy after my own heart. That sounds just like something I would say! LOLOLOL
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Post# 3528-8/8/2001-10:38 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (Who wants phosphate Calgon?)
MESSAGE: But if you ever do replace that tub Greg, please don't replace the faucet. Part of the fun for new guests at your house, as you know, is trying to figure out how to work the bathtub/shower faucet. ;-)
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Post# 3529-8/8/2001-10:40 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen (Talking Dirty)
MESSAGE: About a year ago, I posted a picture of that book from a Walgreen's ad. I should go in there when I go grocery shopping (they're right next to each other) and see if they still have any.
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Post# 3530-8/8/2001-10:41 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (Who wants phosphate Calgon?)
MESSAGE: Those sprays smell nice and I used them for a while, but I find it makes kind of a sticky residue all over.
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Post# 3531-8/8/2001-10:52 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: intercontinental english (Links n Links)
MESSAGE: How interesting, Tom. I was just reading about these "cookers", and while the top is very obviously gas, the ovens are electric! I'm an electric gal all the way when it comes to cooking, even though I'm "living with" gas, but I've never seen both in the same stove before. Are the burners on these commercial gas ranges faster than a standard one? My biggest complaint about gas cooktops is they're just so dreadfully slow.
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Post# 3532-8/8/2001-11:09 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: intercontinental english (The English Stove)
MESSAGE: Mike,
That is a really wonderful stove!! If only I had room for such a stove....
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Post# 3533-8/8/2001-11:11 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo
MESSAGE: If that is the thing that surprises them most...
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Post# 3534-8/8/2001-13:04 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: POD
MESSAGE: How many of the members in the US have one of the Inland Glass carafes like is sitting on the counter over the DW? My mom used one when entertaining. It is hand blown glass with silver on the neck. To avoid breakage, we always preheated it by running hot water into it and letting it stand a bit before pouring the water out and filling it with the freshly perked coffee. The cap for it is cork and black painted wood. There is a cheaper looking version where the top is cork and aluminum, but the aluminum looks awful over the silver neck. It came in several sizes and in little individual carafes, just one of the icons of the late 40s-early 50s. Tom
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Post# 3535-8/8/2001-13:07 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen (20 Mule Team Borax)
MESSAGE: Just putting the world on notice that one day it WILL be official. Will in all caps to be accented like Julia would say it. TT
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Post# 3536-8/8/2001-13:11 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (Style or Substance? Have your cake and eat it too!)
MESSAGE: Scott, it's all done with very expensive little boards now that signal relays to do things. Jason can tell you what can happen with this system. Hint: Think of the sound of grated potatoes in a skillet with hot oil. TT
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Post# 3537-8/8/2001-13:23 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (Calgon)
MESSAGE: That's helpful Tom, thanks. I just checked the box for such code letters and I found a "P" there, which would probably mean the full force phosphate stuff. It does a great job, though without any whitish residue.
Eddy
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Post# 3538-8/8/2001-13:25 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: intercontinental english (Links n Links)
MESSAGE: Scott, Thermador makes a dual fuel range, although the term is incorrect because electricity is not a fuel; it is energy. The large burners give off more heat which just like in all gas burners largely travels up the side of the pan instead of going into the bottom. NO comments about what is or is not supposed to go into the bottom. In this case it is heat. The other thing John found this week is that on the KA gas ranges, the large burners stop reducing the flame after medium whereas the smaller burner has proportionate flame reduction over the whole range of the valve. Even new valves are like this. Plus, you get a large diameter burner like in commercial cooktops and you cannot turn the flame all the way up with a regular household size pan because the flame will engulf the pan so you lose speed. With an electric element the heated area remains the size you select regardless of the heat level. Electrically yours, TT
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Post# 3539-8/8/2001-13:32 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (Calgon)
MESSAGE: Eddy, you are right, P was the other letter. Only the non-phosphate versions leave the residue. Does your formula have the blue crystals in it? There was a Saturday Evening Post cartoon in the 50s where one little boy is talking to a friend near a fishbowl. He tells his friend that his fish died after he put water softener in the goldfish bowl and he thinks they softened to death. TT
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Post# 3540-8/8/2001-14:05 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen (Dusters at Dawn)
MESSAGE: I could just possibly have imagined Lambswool,but never dusting mits!!!!!
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Post# 3541-8/8/2001-14:10 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen ("
New Improved Vitality"
)
MESSAGE: "Secret Vitamin" and "The Queen of Clean" book, what more can a guy need...
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Post# 3542-8/8/2001-14:22 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: intercontinental english (However???)
MESSAGE: Tom
This is a new one, however did you come to know that...was it a "You Are The Weakest Link" question / answer or do you work in greenhouses??
With regards to the cooker, where you surprised it was gas/
The Thermador and Viking ranges have become popular over here but sell at approx £3000/£4000 apiece here, are these brands TOL with you?
Mike
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Post# 3543-8/8/2001-14:33 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: intercontinental english (Beefed Up Burners)
MESSAGE: Scott
These gas burners have been seriously beefed up to give professional flames, stand well back or you wont be need to pluck your eyebrows for the ball!!!
What Tom said about the flames travelling up the sides of the pan was true but on this one the large WOK burner has 3 ringed flames 1.5,2.5, & 5 inches diameter each to cover the small inner base, outer base and then sides of large pans...
Cant wait till its all ready to use but I`m looking forward to the convention first..
Mike
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Post# 3544-8/8/2001-14:40 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: ANOTHER WI-57 CONTROL TOWER WASHER POSSIBLY FOUND
MESSAGE: Details to be announced as more information comes in.
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Post# 3545-8/8/2001-16:25 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (Calgon)
MESSAGE: Yes, Tom is has the blue crystals in it. I use it with Arctic Power detergent (like the U.S Cold Power). You should see the suds heap up during the aerated overflow wash in my SQ.
Eddy
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Post# 3546-8/8/2001-16:28 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: ANOTHER WI-57 CONTROL TOWER WASHER POSSIBLY FOUND
MESSAGE: How do you do it, Robert?? Those unimatics seem to be drawn toward you like gravity! I'm still looking for my first ;-(
Eddy
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Post# 3547-8/8/2001-18:40 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (Style or Substance? Have your cake and eat it too!)
MESSAGE: Since there's no mechanical movement, there's no need to rapid advance. Sensors just automatically reduce time of minutes left in display when necessary.
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Post# 3548-8/8/2001-18:46 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: NEWSFLASH: FRIGIDAIRE WI-57 WASHER FOUND IN CLEVELAND
MESSAGE: The machine was found in Cleveland by Bob Salem. He is giving the washer to me as a gift for restoring his WO-65 Frigidaire washer last year. It will arrive in Minneapolis before the convention even begins. I plan swaping a few parts from my machine that are less than perfect and then rebuilding this machine.
More to come on this fablous news.
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Post# 3549-8/8/2001-22:35 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: NEWSFLASH: FRIGIDAIRE WI-57 WASHER FOUND IN CLEVELAND
MESSAGE: Another sweet score. Good for you Robert! With all you're doing to get ready you'll probably sleep for a week after the convention! Carry on man...
Todd
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Post# 3550-8/8/2001-23:49 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (Who wants phosphate Calgon?)
MESSAGE: "The Cobbler's Children Have No Shoes"
Forgive me if I have given you the impression that my house is anywhere close to being clean. I use my cleaning talents and ability in my own house only when I'm forced to - company coming, etc. On a day to day basis, the house is a shambles. I ran the dust mop around the wood floors last weekend and was sickened by what I swept up. The sad part is, my house used to be always perfect, you could eat off the floors. Now, my advice is usually; don't stand in one place too long, you may get stuck to that spot!
Have you ever washed your shower curtain in the washer? I need to do the one from my shower (also clear, heavy vinyl) soon. I usually put it in with a load of towels, front load washer is best. After washing, I put everything in the dryer for a few minutes to make it soft and pliable again and then re-hang it while it's still warm. I had my last shower curtain for six years.
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Post# 3551-8/8/2001-23:52 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (Who wants phosphate Calgon?)
MESSAGE: And "where's the damn coffee pot?"
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Post# 3552-8/8/2001-23:57 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (Who wants phosphate Calgon?)
MESSAGE: Those sprays are usually nothing more than a mild alcohol and detergent solution. The theory is that if you spray it in the shower after you are done, it will help dissolve and suspend the soils and soap residue until the next shower when the crap is rinsed away. The problem is that not all areas of the shower walls get sprayed with clean water to rinse completely. A plastic soda cup with clean water to rinse the walls and curtain or doors before turning off the water will flush all the soil and residue down the drain and save much spraying and scrubbing.
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Post# 3553-8/8/2001-00:00 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: intercontinental english (Links n Links)
MESSAGE: A number of American manufacturers offer "duel fuel" ranges, Viking, Thermador, Dacor are just a few. The BTU output on burners on some of these ranges is quite a bit higher than a lower end gas range. The electric oven is great for even heat, convected baking and self cleaning ability.
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Post# 3554-8/8/2001-00:29 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: intercontinental english (The English Stove)
MESSAGE: My Gran and my Aunties have always said cooker. Maybe its a regional thing. My Dads family is from Portsmouth.
I am sure I have heard cooker used heaps of times on British TV shows.
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Post# 3555-8/9/2001-05:46 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: intercontinental english (However???)
MESSAGE: Mike, I am probably a weakest link, but I discovered this term while reading about tropical plants. I have a collection of them from Florida. They are a hobby and a royal pain. They all go out in late April/early May depending on the weather and have to be brought in sometime around early October. I have what was intended as a shop downstairs off the basement that I have outfitted with lots of fluorescent plant lights where many of them live during the winter and a couple of areas upstairs where others spend the winter. There is something very uplifting to my soul to be surrounded by all of the green when the world is cold and dead outside. It is also sorta fun to look out on snow when it is the background to lush tropical greenery. I have sort of messed with the lighting and feeding of the plants to where many bloom while inside and then have their vacation during the summer when the world outside is green and full of flowers. TT
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Post# 3556-8/9/2001-05:58 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (Who wants phosphate Calgon?)
MESSAGE: Greg, I feel better now, although you have a child and a dog. Things are improving at my place since Jason installed the central vac. It really makes a BIG difference when all the dust is trapped downstairs and the air exhausted outside. It is also much nicer to be able to vacuum without all the noise and smell of a vacuum cleaner. I like the treated dust things and have some of those disposable wet mop pads, as well as everything to keep a beautifully clean house except time and energy. Of course, that is why we were given dimmers. Tom
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Post# 3557-8/9/2001-06:07 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (shower maintenance)
MESSAGE: Greg, I rinse off the curtain and more remote reaches of the tub with my hand held shower each time and you are right, it does help. I think it is the alcohol in the liquid Wisk that helps make it such a good soap film remover and maybe I do a better job because instead of it smelling like a cleaner, it smells like I am doing laundry when I use it! Tom
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Post# 3558-8/9/2001-06:15 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: intercontinental english (Links n Links)
MESSAGE: And broiling in an electric oven is better than with gas. Without a special burner to create the strong infra red rays, a gas flame just does not broil like a good orange hot electric element. Western Holly ranges used to have a wire screen around the burner that got red hot in the flame. Caloric was the last to offer the Micro-Ray broiler burner on a domestic gas range. TT
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Post# 3559-8/9/2001-07:38 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: NEWSFLASH: FRIGIDAIRE WI-57 WASHER FOUND IN CLEVELAND
MESSAGE: Truly unbeliveable.......
Just goes to show you, there are machines out there and the more contacts you make, the more more hunting you do, all the more that comes home!
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Post# 3560-8/9/2001-07:44 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (shower maintenance)
MESSAGE: There is nothing that can't be cleaned in an appliance! Some of my clients have been surprised to find a dishwasher load of bathroom goodies like cups, soap dishes, bathtub toys, etc. "I never thought of that - what a good idea!" Tub mats, bathroom rugs and (shudder) tank covers get a run through the washer.
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Post# 3561-8/9/2001-09:11 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (shower curtains in a toploader)
MESSAGE: Having a Kenmore with a Delicate cycle is best for shower curtains, but you still need to monitor it to do it right. Since older Kenmores will advance thru the cycle with the lid up, you don't have to worry about spinning a plastic sheet with trapped water in it. Hot wash, high water level, said curtain, and several towels. When the machine goes to spin/drain, lift the curtain and allow the all the water to fall out of the folds and be flushed down the drain. Then reset the machine back to wash for a hot rinse, lift and drain, and rehang the curtain to dry. A touch of Clorox will really give the vinyl a clean, sanitary scent...
-ph
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Post# 3562-8/9/2001-09:15 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: NEWSFLASH: FRIGIDAIRE WI-57 WASHER FOUND IN CLEVELAND (dry spell broken)
MESSAGE: Congrats, Robert! I was starting to think that we were in a dry spell for finding any real treasures, and then look what surfaces! Can't wait to see it! Any idea what color it is, maybe to match the dryer you have?
-ph
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Post# 3563-8/9/2001-09:15 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Calgonite Take Me Away
MESSAGE: It's confirmed. I went to that grocery store where I buy powdered Calgon occasionally. I bought a box and its the Phosphate Calgon version with the blue crystals! The store had 14 more boxes on the shelf, so we could probably buy them out so some of you guys can take home Phosphate Calgon. The boxes were $6.59 a piece.
I'm really surprised that they can sell that here, because Minnesota is such a ecological "Green" state. I wonder if it sort of just slipped by the people who watch for those kind of things?
Anyway we'll have lots of Phosphates for the convention!!!
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Post# 3564-8/9/2001-09:19 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen (YIKES!)
MESSAGE: Sorry, but this so called queen of clean is scary. Another housewife who has updated Hints from Helouise. I think we can elect a much better one. We can have black dryer exhaust coming from Robert's basement that changes to white when we've made our decision...
-ph
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Post# 3565-8/9/2001-09:21 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Calgonite Take Me Away (Cream Suds)
MESSAGE: Robert,
Do you know the origins of your P&G phosphated Cream Suds? I have an order form and Cream Suds is listed as a pots and pans soap for manual dish washing...
-ph
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Post# 3566-8/9/2001-09:23 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: intercontinental english (The English Stove)
MESSAGE: Ab Fab reference and local English...
"What do we need a cooker for? You've only ever used it to light your fags off of..."
--- Saffy to Eddy, was it the episode when the kitchen burned?
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Post# 3567-8/9/2001-09:24 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Call for Old Clothes
MESSAGE: Dernit! I just took about 40 pounds of lost and found at the laundry to Good Will...
-ph
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Post# 3568-8/9/2001-09:30 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: NEWSFLASH: FRIGIDAIRE WI-57 WASHER FOUND IN CLEVELAND (dry spell broken)
MESSAGE: Thats very true Peter, I had been in a dry spell. Last summer I found soooo much, but nothing so far until now. I talked to Bob Salem last night and he said the machine is White, seems to work fine, but the water and oil bellows is broken.
He said it was in the basement of a house that had the laundry facilities upstairs, so they moved it down stairs to store it when they bought a new machine, he said it appeared to have not much use.
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Post# 3569-8/9/2001-11:09 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (shower maintenance)
MESSAGE: And, when those rubbermaid-type wastebaskets get grungy and you don't feel like scrubbing them down with Knight's Spray9, they come nice and clean in the DW; air dry, please. TT
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Post# 3570-8/9/2001-11:12 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Calgonite Take Me Away
MESSAGE: OOH, WOW, that's the big box for that price. can't wait. TT
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Post# 3571-8/9/2001-11:13 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen (YIKES!)
MESSAGE: Are we going to havae to go through the "well hung" ritual like at the Vatican also? TT
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Post# 3572-8/9/2001-12:07 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (shower maintenance)
MESSAGE: I also put flower pots and other "objects d'art" in my dishwasher. And since European fridges are less wide I can also put the racks in the dishwasher.
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Post# 3573-8/9/2001-12:10 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (shower curtains in a toploader)
MESSAGE: I have a polyester shower curtain. I find them much easier to wash than the vinyl ones. I just run it through the PP cycle on 140F and it looks like new again. And yes, it's white!
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Post# 3574-8/9/2001-12:14 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: intercontinental english (The English Stove)
MESSAGE: Yes, I think it was from that episode of the one after that when Edina still couldn't decide on which kitchen she wanted. My favourite quote is when Saffy and Eddy discover Patsy with her head on the burnt table:"She inhaled our kitchen".
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Post# 3575-8/9/2001-13:38 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Rinnai
MESSAGE: Attn internation members:
Can anyone tell me about Rinnai water heaters? They are an on-demand system with an exterior installation. They seem to be big in Australia?
-ph
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Post# 3576-8/9/2001-13:43 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Calgonite Take Me Away
MESSAGE: Wow, and I'm out right now too! I've been buying the Raindrop stuff, but maybe I'll have to "splurge" and buy the real thing to have on hand esp. for the convention! Now, I need to get after the manager at the store I shop at (same store, the one on Hennepin) to put it in, since obviously they have access to it.
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Post# 3577-8/9/2001-13:46 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen (YIKES!)
MESSAGE: Oh I don't know...the queen of clean is kind of a woman after my own heart! Maybe you all will just have to elect me as the gay version!
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Post# 3578-8/9/2001-13:48 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (shower maintenance)
MESSAGE: On the vacuum side of this whole hobby, I learned of folks who have dishwashers in their workrooms to wash vacuum parts with.
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Post# 3579-8/9/2001-14:05 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire Agitator Sprinklers
MESSAGE: There is a dutch auction on for Frigidaire agitator sprinklers if anyone is interested. Scott
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1176637972
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Post# 3580-8/9/2001-14:12 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen (YIKES!)
MESSAGE: Your Majesty,
We think that you have much more style and class than that woman ever will have.
QLOTOC
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Post# 3581-8/9/2001-14:40 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: NEWSFLASH: FRIGIDAIRE WI-57 WASHER FOUND IN CLEVELAND
MESSAGE: Unimatic:
Congrats on another great find, Uni. I see Frigidaire Unimatics are drawn to you in the same way bees seem to be drawn to honey. This is a 1957 "Tower Top" model, right??
--Charles--
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Post# 3582-8/9/2001-15:28 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Dancing Queen (YIKES!)
MESSAGE: Why thank you, Your Majesty, we appreciate your kind words! We are cognizant and very excited about the fact that in only 8 days we shall be able to address you in the first person!
QEOM
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Post# 3583-8/9/2001-16:46 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (Dishwasher Uses)
MESSAGE: The vac shop I go to used to have a White-Westy front loader to wash vac bags in (with a bunch of old t-shirts to cushion the banging of bag parts) which worked quite well for them. Their air conditioner caught fire and they've replaced the washer with a brand new Frigidaire BOL washer and dryer.
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Post# 3584-8/9/2001-16:48 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Rinnai
MESSAGE: Don't know nutin bout no water heaters......but how was the Coin-laundry convention & show. Do you have lots of fun brochures and specs to bring to the convention next week?
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Post# 3585-8/9/2001-18:26 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: NEWSFLASH: FRIGIDAIRE WI-57 WASHER FOUND IN CLEVELAND (dry spell broken)
MESSAGE: Congratulations, Robert!!! What a cool find!
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Post# 3586-8/9/2001-20:48 ||| syndets2000 (Nanjemoy, Md)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse L-8 Laundromat Needs Some Work (L-8M)
MESSAGE: Hi Robert, I was going through some of the old postings & came across this album- It looks really KEEN!---Robert
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Post# 3587-8/9/2001-21:36 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Interesting...
MESSAGE: ...
LINK: http://www.startribune.com/viewers/qview/cgi/qview.cgi?story=84696041&template=variety_a_cache
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Post# 3588-8/9/2001-21:55 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Final restaurant headcounts
MESSAGE: Ok to those attending the convention, I'm taking a final headcount of those planning to attend the dinner Saturday night at Nye's and the brunch on Sunday morning at California Cafe. As I write, each is reserved for 28 people. I want to make sure that's close to accurate for Nye's, and more importantly, I have to give California Cafe a final count by next Wednesday, since our reservation there is "wedding style" meaning the count I give them is the minimum number of plates we are billed for, regardless of how many people we actually have. You may email your intentions by Monday if you could please to me at Scott55405@yahoo.com. One person has already done this today and they know who they are. Thanks, Scott
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Post# 3589-8/9/2001-21:55 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: NEWSFLASH: FRIGIDAIRE WI-57 WASHER FOUND IN CLEVELAND
MESSAGE: Hi Charles, thanks. Yes it is a "Control Tower" as all 1957 models had the control tower design as in this chart I made a few months ago...
LINK: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/miscbrands00/vwp?.dir=/quick+share&.dnm=1957+Frigidaire+Washers.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 3590-8/9/2001-21:58 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse L-8 Laundromat Needs Some Work (L-8M)
MESSAGE: Thanks Robert, what kind of oil and how much do you use in those speed changers? I know that oil-changes and drive pulley adjustments are the only fixes that can be done to a Westinghouse Laundromat Speed Changer.
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Post# 3591-8/9/2001-22:00 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Interesting...
MESSAGE: "Washers, dryers, ovens, toasters, etc., that you can talk to? And that will talk back, telling you how they're feeling and whether they need to be repaired?"
That's strange mine do that already and they are 45 years old no less! All you have to do is look at them.
Thanks for the interesting story Scott.
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Post# 3592-8/9/2001-22:01 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: NEWSFLASH: FRIGIDAIRE WI-57 WASHER FOUND IN CLEVELAND
MESSAGE: So, is the "Imperial Unimatic" the top of the line that year, there was no "Custom Imperial Unimatic?"
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Post# 3593-8/9/2001-22:33 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: ANOTHER WI-57 CONTROL TOWER WASHER POSSIBLY FOUND
MESSAGE: hI!
Maybe the problem is with your name. Speed Queen Eddy!
Maybe you need a frigidaire like name like Robert and they will magically be drawn to you!!
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Post# 3594-8/9/2001-22:34 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Rinnai
MESSAGE: I dont know anything about them other than they make heating appliances. I dont see to many fan clubs for them!!!
We have one of there gas heaters for our lounge room.
Here is a link anyway
LINK: http://www.rinnai.com.au/
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Post# 3595-8/9/2001-22:36 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Interesting...
MESSAGE: May be we need appliances that tell people how to use them properly.
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Post# 3596-8/9/2001-22:57 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Interesting...
MESSAGE: Well, now there's an idea that has some merit, particularly in some "schools"! Scott
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Post# 3597-8/10/2001-02:13 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: Picture of the Day 59 Frigidaire
MESSAGE: This is a nice looking model I am surprized no one has one in there collections.
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Post# 3598-8/10/2001-04:22 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: NEWSFLASH: FRIGIDAIRE WI-57 WASHER FOUND IN CLEVELAND (57 Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Robert - I wish they made a design like this today
Peter
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Post# 3599-8/10/2001-05:50 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the Day 59 Frigidaire
MESSAGE: Aroooooah, Uni has the 1959 dryer next to his 1958 washer, the Turquoise pair.
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Post# 3600-8/10/2001-06:11 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: NEWSFLASH: FRIGIDAIRE WI-57 WASHER FOUND IN CLEVELAND
MESSAGE: Custom Imperial was not introduced into the line until 1958.
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Post# 3601-8/10/2001-06:18 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the Day 59 Frigidaire
MESSAGE: Actually someone does; a pair in fact. It has changed hands a few times. 59 was a very troublesome year for the washer. The BIG mechanism change was coupled with a motor that proved too small. There were massive changeouts in the field. To add to the embarrassment, Comsumer Reports had run a short article on the 1959 versions of the top rated 1958 washers and the WCI-59 was among them, along with Norge and Maytag. TT
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Post# 3602-8/10/2001-06:42 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: A MESSAGE FROM YOUR TRAVEL COORDINATOR
MESSAGE: Earlier, Robert had asked me to study the travel arrangements from the Holiday Inn to his house. It looked scary at first, however, we have plenty of cars for all who need rides. Steve 1-18 from Georgia will be in the lobby of the Holiday Inn on FRIDAY, AUGUST 17TH, 2001, FROM 5:00 TO 5:30 PM with a Frigidaire agitator in his lap, unless he is asked to remove it or face being asked to leave for overexposure of an excited state, in which case it will be close by. Everyone who is going to Robert's house is to check in with Steve who will coordinate the loading of cars so that we do not overload Robert's street with the usual driving ratio of two cars per queen. It is the responsibility of everyone who is planning on traveling to and from Robert's house to have printed a copy of the directions given many times on this site. That way, there will be knowledgeable people who will not be asking stupid questions, but who will be able to help drivers unfamiliar with the city to look for signs, exits, streets, parking places, and for those hanging way out the window, curbs. It is the driver's decision as to who will do what. The group will leave from the Holiday Inn at 5:30 PM for Robert's house. Tom
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Post# 3603-8/10/2001-07:25 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Interesting... (My washer speaks)
MESSAGE: Washer: "Go ahead. Get the Frigmore. What am I? Some american made junk. I see you looking at those Frigidaires behind my back. You don't think I know all about your little "classic appliances" affairs. You just watch, buddy. I'm gonna wait till you have a mountain of laundry, then I'm gonna blow a drive coupler, let's see how you like them apples."
My Dryer: "HA HA! He ain't replacing me, he's gettin' rid of you Whirly. I AM a classic appliance"
Washer: "Oh Shut up you old rusty thing and dry those underwear will ya."
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Post# 3604-8/10/2001-07:27 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the Day 59 Frigidaire (The model)
MESSAGE: Yeah, she does look nice, so do the washers 8-)
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Post# 3605-8/10/2001-08:43 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the Day 59 Frigidaire
MESSAGE: Not to dissapoint you arrrooohhh, but I do have that 1959 WCI-59 Frigidaire Washer up in the attic.
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Post# 3606-8/10/2001-08:48 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A MESSAGE FROM YOUR TRAVEL COORDINATOR
MESSAGE: There should be plenty of parking on my block for over ten cars and if necessary you can park on the next or previous block too. I do have a driveway, but please don't park in the driveway because I share it with my neighboor to the north and I wouldn't want to trap them in or out of the driveway.
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Post# 3607-8/10/2001-09:26 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: A MESSAGE FROM YOUR TRAVEL COORDINATOR
MESSAGE: By the sound of this message I think everyone should do as the Travel Coordinator asks. Otherwise you risk being turned into a present day Frigidaire.
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Post# 3608-8/10/2001-20:50 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo
MESSAGE: Gentlemen, the vent system on the fully integrated is designed to work as follows: The active vent is closed beginning with the start of a wash cycle.....then it remains closed for 4 hours after the completion of the cycle to allow for a condensation drying process and cooling of the tub and contents. Then the vent is allowed to open. However, if the user opens the door any time prior to the completion of the 4 hour cool-down, the vent is opened at that point. The vent louvres are at the very top edge of the door, but there will not be any steam venting/air flow during a cycle....to protect any countertop. The rest of the console style machines have the vent at the front. When the dishwasher is correctly installed, steam venting through the front console louvres should not create problems with countertops.
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Post# 3609-8/10/2001-21:58 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the Day 59 Frigidaire (The model)
MESSAGE: Hi Jason!
I would of prefered Ava Gardner or Jane Russell. Oooh Yeah!
Jane Russell is one woman I would like to wash for!!
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Post# 3610-8/10/2001-22:13 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the Day 59 Frigidaire
MESSAGE: Thats good to Hear. I didnt think someone like you would be missing a model!! I never seen a picture of one. That is as close as I am going to get to your collection as I cant go to the convention. Boo Hoo
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Post# 3611-8/10/2001-22:16 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Interesting... (My washer speaks)
MESSAGE: None of this club are faithful to our appliances are we?
I wonder how my appliances will feel when I update them every few years???
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Post# 3612-8/10/2001-23:07 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Lid Switch Repair -- $135
MESSAGE: A friend of mine has a 2 year old GE/Hotpoint washer (new style plastic tub.) He told me the other day it stopped agitating and spinning so he called GE and they came out to replace the lid switch for a grand total of $135! Of course, you know I could have jumped that switch out of the circuit for free or even replaced it for a couple of bucks, but a couple of weeks ago he talked of my hobby as a huge joke and was making fun, so I would have advised him to call GE anyway. Who has the last laugh now! Hahahahahaha!
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Post# 3613-8/10/2001-23:35 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Lid Switch Repair -- $135
MESSAGE: I know those kinds of people. It's always nice to say, Sorry to hear about your trouble. With a big smile on your face.
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Post# 3614-8/10/2001-01:10 ||| Janet planet (Northridge, CA)
SUBJECT: Hi folks!
MESSAGE: I'm Janet Planet. Some of you may know of me. I've posted a few comments at That Home Site's Appliances Forum. I lurked & looked around here and thought, I like this place. I especially like your photo albums. I decided I'd join up. I don't have any vintage appliances at this time, but I've always liked any kind of appliances, new or old. I've helped my husband fix all sorts of things over the years, including our home appliances. I collect old kitchen utensils, old cookbooks and old kitchen and food related advertising. I think old appliances are just an extension of that.
I see most of you are guys. That doesn't bother me; I hope my presence doesn't bother you. I like to listen and learn.
-Janet Planet
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Post# 3615-8/11/2001-04:42 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT: Welcome Janet
MESSAGE: Welcome to the club Janet. You being a female wont bother us. Everyone is welcome.
SD
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Post# 3616-8/11/2001-06:45 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi folks!
MESSAGE: Welcome Janet! I've come across a lot of nice folks at the appliance forum too, so I'm glad some of the nicer ones are finding their way to us as well! Enjoy the club! Scott
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Post# 3617-8/11/2001-09:41 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi folks! (Levittown)
MESSAGE: Hi Janet, welcome to the Club! Whether your a guy or a gal doesn't matter, we're all about Appliances here.
Hey, I read your profile and saw you lived in Levittown, Long Island, NY when you were little so I thought you would like the following picture.
For those who don't know Bill Levitt pioneered the method for residental construction with on-site fabrication or "Pre-Fab" in which hundreds, even thousands of homes would go up simultaneously. Here is a promotional shot of the construction parts including Janets Parents' front loading washer that she remembers...
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/miscbrands00/vwp?.dir=/quick+share&.dnm=Levittown.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 3618-8/11/2001-10:07 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi folks!
MESSAGE: Welcome Janet! How fun to have a member that lived in Levittown and remembers the Bendix too! Levittown was one of the first national exposures to wringerless washing (and suburban development) that most people in America had ever seen - increased Bendix popularity by leaps and bounds.
Welcome to the club - enjoy!
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Post# 3619-8/11/2001-10:09 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi folks! (Levittown)
MESSAGE: Thanks for that picture - most of the machines that I've seen of Levittown had the lower end Bendix washers - semi automatics and smaller refrigerators, but I'm sure for a few extra dollars you could have the top of the line selections from GE and Bendix!
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Post# 3620-8/11/2001-10:37 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi folks!
MESSAGE: Janet, you are MOST welcome. In fact, I personally feel our membership level has "Levittated" to new heights with you joining. I'm aka boba on thathomesite.
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Post# 3621-8/11/2001-10:45 ||| Janet Planet (Northridge, CA)
SUBJECT: Thanks guys; Memory Lane; Question
MESSAGE: Thanks to gansky1, Scot55405, Scottdamit & Unimatic1140 for making me feel so welcome. And special thanks to Unimatic1140 because of the Levittown pic! Not only did I see the old now/new then Bendix, I saw the gleaming electric stove, and the kitchen sink/counter/cabinets. The kitchen sink was stainless steel with a stainless steel countertop, and the countertop, if I remember correctly, had ridges so everything would drain into the sink. I think the sink and countertop were all one piece. The cabinets were white enameled steel. The kitchen faucet set had a pull out spray on the side.
You may notice that the building site looks like a war zone, denuded of all plant life. Well, apparently they had left some preexisting trees, because at our house on Stevedore Lane, we had a mature peach tree in our back yard, from which my mother would make peach preserves. I can almost smell the peaches, bubbling away on top of that electric stove, with her hovering over it to make sure nothing burned.
(I'm having a misty moment now, please excuse me).
Huh! Now I feel better. Now, this trip down memory lane brings me back to the core premise of this entire website: appliances. I have a question for you folks: Are the enamel finishes on classic appliances better (thicker, better quality, or ?) than what is on appliances made today?
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Post# 3622-8/11/2001-11:17 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi folks! (Welcome Janet)
MESSAGE: Welcome to the club - it's the greatest. I am addicated to reading the posts. I do post from time to time & when I get a new computer - I plan to try to take pictures and download them. Right now I am in the middle of renovating my kitchen. I can't wait until it is done.
Enjoy
Peter
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Post# 3623-8/11/2001-11:43 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Thanks guys; Memory Lane; Question
MESSAGE: The porcelain on many present day appliances is much thinner than in days of old. In my previous house, I had a Hotpoint gas stove in almond with a wafer-thin porcelain top. It was discolored around the burners within a pitifully short period of time in it's life. There was a ridge right at the front of the top that was chipped several times from being bumped with pans and lids. There may be others in the club here that can be more specific, but as an ovservance of mine, today's porcelain is of much less quality.
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Post# 3624-8/11/2001-14:39 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi folks!
MESSAGE: Hello Janet,
Welcome here. You might know me from the Appliance Forum, I am the Miele fan who is posting there regularly. I hope you enjoy this club as much as we do.
Louis
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Post# 3625-8/11/2001-14:42 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi folks! (Welcome Janet)
MESSAGE: Hello Peter,
Great you are getting your kitchen renovated. Any appliance changes?
Today I installed a new (old) stove on my dishwasher. It's an oldfashioned model from the fifties. I bet you all like it, but you have to be a little patient for the picture.
Louis
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Post# 3626-8/11/2001-16:49 ||| jetcirclefill (Pensacola, Fl)
SUBJECT: RE: Thanks guys; Memory Lane; Question (Maytag)
MESSAGE: I'm having the same problem with my Maytag electric. Three sets of drip bowls in three years. Maybe it's only the almond!
Tom
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Post# 3627-8/11/2001-19:47 ||| Janet Planet (Northridge, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Thanks guys; Memory Lane; Question (Thanx guys; appliance porcelain & steel)
MESSAGE: First of all, thanks again to all you folks. I recognize the names of aloysisus & boba (appnut) from THS.
Re Porcelain: whew, then it's not just my imagination. And it's not just the porcelain; the steel is much thinner and not as strong. Geez, about 30 years ago, I lived in an old triplex that had a stove from the 1940's, big as a house and enough chrome for at least one Buick. I don't think that that stove even had a scratch on it, much less any chips. That stove was a solid battleship. I used to use a very large water bath canner that took two burners to heat, and never had any problems. Sure, the stove had a energy-wasting pilot light, but that stove was a workhorse, and had been for many years.
The last 2 stoves I had (unfortunately both Caloric; one white with black glass & double oven, and one almond stove) had discolored and crazed enamel under around the burners, even though I used disposable foil liners. They were also chipped around the edges. They were both apparently builders models, installed when each condo was built ('79, '85). Not only was the porcelain low grade, the steel tops were so thin that the top even "oil-canned" at times when I would put a 5 quart pot of water or soup on the burner. The last stove (almond) was so light in construction that my husband literally picked it up & chucked it into the dumpster to dispose of it (after removing the oven door).
Ah the good old days.
-Janet Planet (who doesn't have any old appliances in her condo, but has an old Frigidaire measuring glass. I hope to get a camera soon; maybe then you all can help me date it.)
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Post# 3628-8/11/2001-21:34 ||| jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: Computer down down down
MESSAGE: Hi everyone my computer is finally dying!The lightning strike in june is takeing its toll! I have not been able to turn it on for most of july which is why I haven't been able to keep up with the posts.
So this is to say hi and can't wait to meet everyone at the convention next week!! Will see you there and hopefully you can all help me catch up in person instead!!
jon/jetcone
BTW a big welcome to JanetPlanet come on out!
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Post# 3629-8/11/2001-00:00 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT: Thought you might like this.
MESSAGE: Enjoy
LINK: http://www.cleaning101.com/
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Post# 3630-8/11/2001-01:09 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi folks!
MESSAGE: Hi Janet,
Welcome to the club. I'm just north of you in San Luis Obispo. Glad to have a gal on board, especially with your mechanical skill and background! Hang around long enough and we'll get you back repairing machines again in no time.
Your profile is great. That's cool you lived in one of those "kit" homes. My next door neighbor's house is one. Same square floor plan and the big window seen in Uni's picture is right there in the living room facing our street. It has the metal kitchen cabinets still and everything else.
I look forward to your memories and participation in the posts.
Todd
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Post# 3631-8/12/2001-09:05 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Interesting... (Evil Whirly speaks again)
MESSAGE: "All you laundry are belong to us. You have no chance to survive. ha ha ha"
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Post# 3632-8/12/2001-12:48 ||| Janet Planet (Northridge, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi folks! (Levittown window)
MESSAGE: Hi neighbor austinado! In our house, I believe that the large divided picture window (on the right in Uni's Levittown pic) was actually facing the back yard, because I remember looking out the windows and seeing our slate steppingstone patio. Some of the individual panes were like casement windows, and were hinged at the top. I believe that the kitchen (site of the previously adored Bendix FL washer) was in the front of our house. The kitchen and living room were separated by a brick wall and fireplace, with openings on both sides.
My memory might not be accurate as I haven't lived there since 1957. My father was the first owner of our house on Stevedore Lane.
BTW: As a child, I did not know fellow Levittowner, Bill Griffith (cartoon artist, Zippy the Pinhead), who was a few years older than I was at the time, and did not live in my immediate neighborhood.
LINK: www.zippythepinhead.com
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Post# 3633-8/12/2001-15:36 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi folks! (Levittown window)
MESSAGE: Hi Janet, when you posts links make sure you include the http:// with your www.address.com. Here is the fixed link. This is sort of a bug in Applianceville, one that I'm going to fix in the fall when I revamp the web site.
LINK: http://www.zippythepinhead.com
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Post# 3634-8/12/2001-16:11 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001!
MESSAGE: We’ll here we go. I’ve been working very hard to get everything ready for the convention and I’m just about there. I apologize to everyone if I’ve been sort of distant to your questions on the club, but I’ve been concentrating so hard on preparing for the convention that it slipped my mind to answer people back, so now you can just ask me in person!
I’ve created a new Yahoo Photo album called Convention01 (password: Minneapolis2001) so we can all add our convention photos to this album (I have a feeling we’re going to have to add Convention01-02, 03, etc.)
Anyway, here is the official unveiling of the New-Improved Convention Center Basement
Isn’t this getting exciting, only 5 days AWAY 'till the convention, I can feel the energy level rising already!! YAY! YAY!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/convention01/lst?&.dir=/The+Unveiling&.src=ph&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/convention01/lst%3f.dir=/The%2bUnveiling%26.src=ph
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Post# 3635-8/12/2001-16:22 ||| spiralator60 (Los Angeles, California)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 8/3/01 (Wonderful commercials!)
MESSAGE: Yes, I have seen this and the other commercials on the link that you shared. Sorry to take so long to respond, as this has been a hectic week at work.
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Post# 3636-8/12/2001-16:39 ||| spiralator60 (Los Angeles, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Loved the picture of the day. (Research)
MESSAGE: Yes, Tom, in another life I am a researcher/librarian. It sounds as if you work in a college or university - e-mail me if you want additional details about where I work. The movie I was referring to was a 1997 version of "Leave It To Beaver" that Universal released. It sounds like the movie you were talking about was the 1983 TV movie "Still The Beaver" which later gave way to the series "The New Leave It To Beaver." Wally working out... Ahem! Jerry Mathers has slimmed down somewhat, as he wrote a book a few years ago, and talked a little about his weight problems in an interview on a local LA talk show at that time. You are quite right about me watching old movies and appliance hunting. Just last night, A&E aired the Humphrey Bogart version of "The Desparate Hours." There were a good number of scenes in an area in front of the kitchen and laundry room area. The Sunbeam MixMaster was nice to look at, but the best shot (front and center) was the Kelvinator washer in the background. From the dates given in the production credits, the film had a copyright date of 1955, so I guess the machine may be of that model year. I did not see if there was a dryer present, as there were no scenes shown that were actually photographed in that area, unlike in the living room.
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Post# 3637-8/12/2001-17:12 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001! (Wonderful pictures!)
MESSAGE: Hi Robert,
That basement looks really wonderful. I enjoyed the pictures. The floor is spectacular and really fifties. For me the fun already starts on Tuesday. Then I am leaving for a few days to friends who live in a village at the seaside. Two days later I will fly to the US, my maiden trip to the US and also my first time meeting all of you. YAY YAY YAY!!!
Louis
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Post# 3638-8/12/2001-18:07 ||| Janet Planet (Northridge, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi folks! (links lesson)
MESSAGE: Uni (if I may be so bold to call you that):
thanks for the links lesson. I will remember for future use.
-JP
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Post# 3639-8/12/2001-18:34 ||| Janet Planet (Northridge, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001! (Convention Floor; Frigidaire logo question)
MESSAGE: Unimatic:
I looked at your photos for Minneapolis 2001. Is that lineoleum or "asphalt tile" that I see gleaming and supporting the wonderful machines? Your floor appears to be freshly waxed in anticipation of Minneapolis 2001!
I also like your collection of laundry detergents up on the shelves. I'm trying to remember which brand included a terry cloth towel in the box, along with the soap. Was it Jewel Tea's brand?
In the pictures on one of your walls, there is a lighted Frigidaire sign. I was wondering: how old is that sign, and for how long did Frigidaire use that logo? I have a Frigidaire measuring glass (apparently an advertising premium given away by an appliance store) and it has the same crown & F logo. I bought the glass at a flea market, and I am trying to find out how old it is. (I collect advertising premiums from stores, manufacturers, etc.--both new & old)
I'm planning to get a digital camera in the near future, and will try to post a picture of the glass.
-Janet Planet
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Post# 3640-8/12/2001-19:23 ||| jetcirclefill (Pensacola, Fl)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001! (OH!!!)
MESSAGE:
Sir, Do you have any good used washers for sale?
Oh my God! Look what I'm going to miss. Only one word that fits,...Fab-u-lous adj. incredible. Well done Uni.
Tom
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Post# 3641-8/12/2001-19:56 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001!
MESSAGE: STUNNING! Yeomans work!
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Post# 3642-8/12/2001-20:31 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi folks! (New Kitchen)
MESSAGE: Hi Louis
Yes I am installing a new dishwasher Kenmore tall tub & a Kenmore gas range. Sears already delivered 2 gas ranges that were damaged. Now I have to wait for a third one to arrive. The kitchen is basically ripped out. I hope the cabinets will be in this week as promised. When I get a new computer I will take pictures & download.
Peter
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Post# 3643-8/12/2001-20:34 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001! (Convention)
MESSAGE: Robert you don't know how sorry I am that I can't make it to the convention. You guys will be on my mind. When you demo the Frigidaire & ABC/Kelvinator please give me a thought. I hope you guys have a JetAction time!!
Peter
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Post# 3644-8/12/2001-21:02 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: Great Job Robert
MESSAGE: Hi Robert, Just looked at your new pictures of the laundry center. Beautiful, just beautiful. You have done a great job. I am sure looking forward to Friday. It will be wonderful to meet all of you and to see and touch all of your machines.
Just wonder if any of you are having a problem with the web site. When I click on some messages all that appears is a black background and the posters chosen wall paper. I have a feeling it is just my internet provider that is having a problem but not sure.
Thanks again Robert for all your hard work.
Terry
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Post# 3645-8/12/2001-22:03 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001! (Detergent Gifties)
MESSAGE: Duz had glasses and Breeze had towels?
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Post# 3646-8/12/2001-22:37 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001! (Wonderful pictures!)
MESSAGE: Thanks Louis, Neal and I were wondering in the which area of the Netherlands are you going to for your seaside adventure?
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Post# 3647-8/12/2001-22:40 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001! (Convention Floor; Frigidaire logo question)
MESSAGE: Hi Janet, of course you can call me Uni. Anyway, the tile is asphalt/non-absestos tile. As for the lighted Frigidaire sign is probably from about 1955, but your glass is probably early 1950's. They used that logo from 1947 through 1956 (possibly very early into 1957).
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Post# 3648-8/12/2001-22:40 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001! (Convention)
MESSAGE: I'm sorry you won't be able to join us Peter, definately next year.
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Post# 3649-8/12/2001-22:42 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Great Job Robert
MESSAGE: I'm not having any problems Terry with Applianceville. What browser and version of that browser are you using? You've had some unusual trobles in the past with the system, and maybe a download of the latest Internet Explorer 5 might fix it.
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Post# 3650-8/12/2001-22:55 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001! (Speed Queen Banner)
MESSAGE: Where did you get that Speed Queen banner? That's just breath-taking!
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Post# 3651-8/12/2001-23:05 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001! (Super Duty Lid - Not!)
MESSAGE: What wonderous treasures you've pulled out of hiding.....it's all too exciting!
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Post# 3652-8/12/2001-01:30 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001!
MESSAGE: Absolutely amazing Robert! It is just beautiful! I'm speechless...
Todd
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Post# 3653-8/12/2001-01:35 ||| Janet Planet (Northridge, CA)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire Glass
MESSAGE: I took these pictures of my Frigidaire glass tonight. A little cookies & milk for all you good boys (and the bad boys, too!)
-Janet Planet
LINK: http://public.fotki.com/JanetPlanet/
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Post# 3654-8/12/2001-01:55 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Glass
MESSAGE: Cool glass Janet. So, did you buy a digital? Which model?
Sounds like my neighbor's house is just opposite of yours. His living room is in the front left corner (facing his house) and the kitchen is immediately off it in the back left corner. No fireplace...must be the econo model.
Todd
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Post# 3655-8/13/2001-02:40 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi folks! (New Kitchen)
MESSAGE: Congratulations on the new kitchen and the new appliances. Sounds really nice. Can't wait to see the result.
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Post# 3656-8/13/2001-02:42 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001! (Wonderful pictures!)
MESSAGE: I'm going to Zandvoort, near Amsterdam, so I'm already near the airport.
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Post# 3657-8/13/2001-03:38 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001!
MESSAGE: Uni as you already have been told a thousand times, It looks wonderful. I so wish I could be there to see all those machines running!!!
Maybe if people take a view vidoes they could down load them so i can partake in all the action by proxy! I would love to see a kelvinator in action!
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Post# 3658-8/13/2001-05:27 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001! (Super Duty Lid - Not!)
MESSAGE: Robert, the pics are fabulous. I'm tingling all over already. My "contribution" to laundry will be my suitcase full of dirty laundry. So, I'll have to do a load on Friday evening just so I'll have stuff to wear during the weekend. (Hopefully Greg forgets his copy of Flashdance [LOL]) Now, I'll just have to decide which machine, but will have to be one with cold rinse capability and the ability to add fabric softener. Where else can one go visit friends and be expected to bring dirty laundry to wash!!!
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Post# 3659-8/13/2001-05:32 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi folks!
MESSAGE: Welcome Janet. I am glad that you found us and can guarantee that you will find lots here to appeal to your appliance fascination. Tom
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Post# 3660-8/13/2001-05:38 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Thanks guys; Memory Lane; Question
MESSAGE: Janet, it is a combination of factors you have to consider. First, today's appliances use very little actual porcelain. Stove tops, if not glass or stainless, yes, but only a few TOL washers and dryers offer it; mostly they are painted. The chipping has as much to do with the guage of steel as the thickness of the porcelain. Not only is the porcelain coating thinner, but the metal under it is thinner. Thinner metal flexes more easily under impact which stresses the porcelain and makes it break off. This is one reason people who do bathroom remodeling advise against steel bathtubs. They are more prone to chipping than cast iron. Tom
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Post# 3661-8/13/2001-05:45 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi folks! (Levittown window)
MESSAGE: Janet, maybe it was something in the soil there, but Bill Griffith has a real washing machine fixation also and recently had a cartoon that mentioned Vaculator coffee. I also collect vacuum coffeemakers so that was a double thrill. He would probably enjoy this club; at least I think he is crazy enough to enjoy it. Tom
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Post# 3662-8/13/2001-06:06 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Loved the picture of the day. (Research)
MESSAGE: Darryl, years ago I was half-watching some 1937 movie on AMC when the couple pulls up to some honeymoon cottage. In the kitchen was Frigidaire's first electric range with the big chrome circular oven and storage drawer handles. Amazing what you can sometimes find if you cruise the settings. I still dream that there must be property warehouses out there with similar treasures in them. Heaven knows there are queens who collect every other part of movie memorabilia so there must be somebody guarding something like this. Tom
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Post# 3663-8/13/2001-06:11 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001! (Detergent Gifties)
MESSAGE: Glenn, you are right, but I seem to remember from time to time that SuperSuds had some premium to offer besides a clogged machine. Tom
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Post# 3664-8/13/2001-06:31 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: Calgon
MESSAGE: Jason and I were talking this weekend about phosphates to boost detergents. I hauled out my father's book about industrial detergency and we were trading descriptions of various formulations. Sodium pyrophosphate was the phosphate most heavily used in laundry detergents and was what was removed when the bans took effect. In treating water to make cleaning agents work, the real bugaboos are the calcium-magnesium salts that make water "hard." Sodium pyrophosphate was very good at binding up or sequestering the magnesium ions in the water. Sodium hexametaphosphate, otherwise known as Calgon was very good at sequestering the calcium ions, but not as effective with magnesium ions, and it hit me: That is maybe the reasoning behind the name Calgon: Calcium gone.
Scott, I am looking forward to seeing Raindrops. I have read the name in washer manuals and booklets since the 50s, but have never seen the product. I guess it was more Northern in its distribution. Tom
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Post# 3665-8/13/2001-06:56 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001! (Speed Queen Banner)
MESSAGE: Gary and Jason found it at some flea market.
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Post# 3666-8/13/2001-06:59 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001! (Super Duty Lid - Not!)
MESSAGE: Greg, that is a super-duty lid acutally, just the lid from a 1965 version. From 1959 thru 1965 Frigidaire used round window lids before they switched to the square window lids in 1966. I put on the round lid on because I was thinking it would bring back more memories for everyone seeing it wash and splash water and suds onto the round window.
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Post# 3667-8/13/2001-07:01 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (KA steam vent)
MESSAGE: Ever since the dishwasher manufacturers have introduced the litte wax motors that close the steam vents, I have wondered how they handle the rapid rise in air pressure when the cool air of the dishwasher is heated by the spray of hot water. In the late 50s, we had, for a mercifully brief time, a Frigidaire by D&M portable dishwasher. It began filling with the motor off and then at the next timer increment the motor started. This usually produced a blast of steamy air and hot water out the steam vent. The GE that followed was much better behaved. Among more modern machines, if you had a KitchenAid of the 15 through maybe 22 series that maybe filled a tiny bit too full or that got a little too hot on SaniRinse, you could produce startling fountain action by either opening the door during the cycle and restarting it or by selecting SaniRinse. After the heating pause the much hotter water hitting the cooler air in the tank could sent water shooting out between the door and lower panel. When it was the water getting too hot on SaniRinse, Jeff slightly bent the heating element so that it was closer to the thermostat so that the water did not get so hot.
Incidentally, John has sold the new KA DW that WP took back from the customer who said it moaned. Its washing ability with heavy soil was never up to what his Power Clean module Whirlpools could handle. It would handle heavy if you used the potsmasher cycle, but he, like I, feels that you should not have to subject dishes to that extra time and heat everytime you run the machine. He is putting the newer WP pump with power clean separator and fine particle filter in his WP dishwashers which handle heavy food soil better even if they use a little more water. Because the new Tall Tub WP DWs use a bit too much water to get Energy Star status, they are said by the sales trainng folks to guarantee better washing. I might have to try one of them, but hate to give up the fan forced drying of my 18s. Tom
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Post# 3668-8/13/2001-07:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001! (Cold Rinse)
MESSAGE: We'll all the machines have the ability the add fabric softener, you pour it in during the start of the rinse fill. The only machine with a fabric softener dispenser is the '58 GE. And as for a cold rinse, you'll have to use a late 50's machine for that. Most of the earlier machines only have hot/warm. But a few such as the ABC, Westinghouse Laundomat and Baby Kenmore, I've changed the water valve to provide a cold rinse.
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Post# 3669-8/13/2001-07:06 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001! (Frigidaire coin-ops)
MESSAGE: Robert, in the summer of 59 in Miami at the laundromat at the Little Farmers Market only one of the Frigidaire washers had a window in the lid. I wonder if the window was an option or just something introduced a little after the first machines were sold? Tom
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Post# 3670-8/13/2001-07:35 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001! (Frigidaire coin-ops)
MESSAGE: I was thinking that the pics I've seen of the commercial machines had the large round window on the older Unimatic machines and the small square lids on newer models. I also thought that handle looked like it was from an older machine too. Anyway, the lid is very cool - thanks in advance for all your hard work and preparations to make this even very memorable for all!
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Post# 3671-8/13/2001-08:37 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (KA steam vent)
MESSAGE: Tom you are correct.....that active vent is operated by a wax motor. The motor is energized to close the vent. To prevent the 'blow' out you've witnessed/described, there is a breather vent flap, that is incorporated into the active vent assembly. I was not totally truthful in my earlier explanation...that there never could be any steam or moisture vented once the active vent closed. During the initial start-up of the washing action, or if you open the door to add a dish, this breather vent flap will very briefly open to allow the burst of pressure to relieve itself.....preventing blow-out at the door corners. Hope this helps......I'm glad you caught me on this one.......Leslie
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Post# 3672-8/13/2001-08:43 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Loved the picture of the day. (Research)
MESSAGE: Darryl, tried to email you, but Yahoo has closed email accounts. Jason discovered that when he tried to send me something to the email box taht Yahoo said I had at one time. Tom
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Post# 3673-8/13/2001-08:50 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (KA steam vent)
MESSAGE: Leslie, I wasn't trying to catch you, but I did wonder what in the hell prevented blowouts. I did not know about the active vent as opposed to the passive vent. To further cofuse things, if the vent that has to be opened by the motor (the passive vent) is on the top, is the active vent on the bottom? Tom
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Post# 3674-8/13/2001-09:06 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001! (1959 had two coin op models)
MESSAGE: You are absolutely right Tom. On the 1959 line, the WCOZ was the standard model without a window in the lid and the WCOZ-G had the round window. In 1960 WCOG all had window lids as seen in this picture...
Do you remember if that windowless model had the molded bakelight agitator with the soap dispenser, minus the plastic turquoise cap, or did it have the rubber rings? I think the WCOZ had the all bakelite 3-ring agitator and the WCOZ-G had the rubber lint chaser and circulator rings?
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/unimatic1140/vwp?.dir=/Frigidaire&.dnm=Driest+Spin+In+Town!.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 3675-8/13/2001-09:39 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (KA steam vent)
MESSAGE: Tom, the vent system on the new Point voyager tall-tub is very interesting. Don't worry about asking for a clarification. Actually there are two vent systems combined into one assembly at the top left door corner. The active section is intended to trap, steam, odors and noise in the tub during the wash cycle......and now on the newly introduced fully integrated units only, it will keep the moisture trapped during the dry as well. The breather section consists of 2 rubber flaps that simply lay flat against another vent duct....when that burst of pressure is applied, the silently and momentarily flip up to relieve the pressure. Otherwise they are always closed too. During a dishwasher cycle; they really only 'burp' pressure during the initial wash pump start-up. Glad you asked.
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Post# 3676-8/13/2001-10:21 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: POD - 8/13
MESSAGE: No wonder why our gal is thrilled, as her new 1965 Frigidaire washer comes with a dream lover inside. Now if she can just tempt him away from the Jet Action...
-ph
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Post# 3677-8/13/2001-10:31 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the Day 59 Frigidaire (The model)
MESSAGE: But all those nasty underwires getting stuck in the tub and drains...
-ph
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Post# 3678-8/13/2001-10:32 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (KA steam vent)
MESSAGE: Reminds me of my KA. It burped when the cycle would start. What a rude dishwasher. Lazy too, the dishes would not come clean 3/4 of the time.
J
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Post# 3679-8/13/2001-10:32 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi folks!
MESSAGE: Welcome, Janet!
-ph
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Post# 3680-8/13/2001-10:38 ||| Janet Planet (Northridge, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - 8/13 (Dream Lover or hallucination?)
MESSAGE: Geez, 1965, huh? maybe that's NOT her dream lover, maybe she's just been sniffing the spot cleaning fluid! Note the unnatural expression on her face
-Janet Planet
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Post# 3681-8/13/2001-10:39 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001! (1959 had two coin op models)
MESSAGE: Robert the thing that made the whole experience one of searing frustration was that all the machines EXCEPT the window lid model were in use. The only one I could look into was the one with the window lid and the lid was up. It did have the 3 ring agitator we know and love with the colored rings and no cap. While I was standing there, a man came in and started to load the WCOZ-G, but my parents would not stay to let me watch it wash. The manager at the apt where we were staying had told us to go this laundromat, but as we were traveling to it, my parents spotted another coin laundry in a strip mall. It was deserted, but we did laundry in two or three of the very few BLACKSTONE machines that were not sitting dead with various amounts of water in the tub. We had to go to the LFM anyway for groceries and they could have let the stuff wash while they bought groceries, although I am not certain how they would have gotten me to leave the laundry for the grocery store, but chalk it up to another of my parents' bad appliance decisions that they did what they did. So it would be more than a year before I would see, in person, my first Frigidaire washer in operation. AAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!
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Post# 3682-8/13/2001-10:47 ||| Janet Planet (Northridge, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi folks! (Bill Griffith)
MESSAGE: Tom:
You know, I might just e-mail Bill and tell him about this wonderful place. Bill also has a thing about diners, and his detailed renditions of the interiors are great.
Have you ever checked out yahoo's Zippy the Pinhead club? I'm psyxpsecy there?
Janet Planet
LINK: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/zippythepinhead
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Post# 3683-8/13/2001-10:53 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (KA steam vent)
MESSAGE: Leslie, since you mentioned the condensation during drying, let me ask if you remember when Waste King offered this principle as part of their dry system. You are probably too young to remember, but here goes. A couple of times during dry, the pump would come on to pump out water in the sump that accumulated from steam condensing on the cooler tub walls during dry, never any great amount in my few experiences. However, those tub walls were not really insulated. Is that the principle by which KA hopes to dry dishes with a closed vent, small as it is even when open? Tom
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Post# 3684-8/13/2001-10:58 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (New KA DWs)
MESSAGE: And John says his does not dry worth a damn either which, I guess, is sort of good with the food we saw stuck to the tank racks and dishes. I would not have a KA newer than my modified 18s. TT
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Post# 3685-8/13/2001-11:05 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi folks! (Bill Griffith)
MESSAGE: Janet, years ago, he included his email address in his strip between the panels. It seems that was when I only saw it once a week in the City Paper. By the time I saw it regularly when he started appearing daily in the Washington Post and he started doing the washing machine stuff, the address was no longer there when I wanted to write him about his washer fascination. I went to some ZTPH club once, but could not manage to get an email through to him. He and Zippy really love front loaders. I save appliance cartoons and love it when he gets on a washer jag. I'll bet he would find a lot of kindred souls here. Tom
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Post# 3686-8/13/2001-11:12 ||| Janet Planet (Northridge, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Glass (camera; Levittown house)
MESSAGE: Todd:
Re: Camera: Well, I've never had a knack for taking pictures, as I'm always beheading people; I rarely take pictures, and I'm always dropping things. So for my first digital camera, I went with an extremely low end camera: the "Cool-i-Cam" that I bought at Office Depot. So if I drop it, no big loss. If I find I like taking pictures, I'll spring for a better one and give this one to my 10 yr old niece. There are no settings, except for "high" resolution (which I used in the Frigidaire glass) and low resolution. It holds 20 hi-res or approx 80 low-res pics. I haven't tried taking any low-res pics yet, since the "high" res aren't exactly that crisp.
Re: Levittown: My parents bought the house new in 1950. Our house had the attached garage on the far left, and the living room was toward the left of the rear of the house. The kitchen (home of the great washing machine) was opposite the living room in the front of the house. The two bedrooms were on the right side of the house. I believe the bathroom was between the kitchen and the front bedroom (my room, because I could see down the hall from my bed all the way into the kitchen.
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Post# 3687-8/13/2001-11:21 ||| Janet Planet (Northridge, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi folks! (Griffy's email)
MESSAGE: Tom:
The place to get an email to him is from a link at Bill's own website. I emailed him about this site just a few minutes ago. He is very good about answering emails. In fact, he just emailed me back!
"Janet-
Thanks for the appliance links---and yes, that front loader Zippy's emerging from must be the Bendix of my Levittown childhood...whether I knew it consciously or not---
-Bill G,"
Janet Planet
LINK: http://www.zippythepinhead.com/
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Post# 3688-8/13/2001-11:32 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (New KA DWs)
MESSAGE: Ouch.......what is going on with the KUD-01 dishwashers folks. You should not be seeing washability problems......please let me know some speicifics and I'll see if I can get you some solutions. Model & serial #. Is the soil redeposited, or is there stuff still on the dishes? The Kitchenaid does use a lower temp Normal wash cycle than the Whpl. & Kenmore version......but, you can achieve the same by selecting the option called Hi-temp scrub(145 degree wash). Another thing comes to mind.......the drain hose fitted into clamps on the left side of the tub, MUST be retained in that position.....otherwise it will render the soil filter/accumulator inoperative. We've seen installers unsnap this hose and use it as extra hose, and voila it creates a performance problem. As you know, you need at 120 degree incoming water, and I think the water level should be just touching the heating element. As far as drying goes, make sure the rinse aid dispenser is used and it is adjusted to your water hardness. It is factory set for fairly soft water. The heater operates around 400 watts for drying by the way. Keep me posted.......love to hear about your experiences! Leslie
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Post# 3689-8/13/2001-11:48 ||| Janet Planet (Northridge, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (NO problems with my new KA DW)
MESSAGE: I bought a KA DW from Sears last April, and have had absolutely NO problems at all with it. The stainless steel "silverware" come out spotless, as do the dishes and pans. I only use the "Energy Saver Dry" cycle, to save both money and my plastic food containers. The local installation company that Sears contracted with were professional. Here in the City of L.A., you have to get a building permit to REPLACE a DW, and then the city inspector has to come and inspect the installation. No problems there, either.
Janet Planet
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Post# 3690-8/13/2001-11:52 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: A couple of Sears/Whirlpool questions for Leslie
MESSAGE: Leslie, do you know why it was decided to move away from the original Hobart KitchenAid dishwasher design? My two favorite features of those machines were the enclosed upper spray arm and the fan forced drying with no element in the bottom. I have owned both Sears and (the original style) KitchenAid dishwashers and have been delighted with both. My mom also likes the Sears dishwasher that came with their new home and was also a previous KA owner (1986 model).
Were you with the company when the whole direct drive washer thing came into being? I'd be curious to hear your opinion on these. One interesting thing I learned over the weekend chatting with someone is the later model Whirlpool washers step to slower agitation in both the normal and perm. press cycles. Do all models do this now? The Sears as well? Was this in response to fabric damage claims? Some folks seem to experience this, while others have no problems. I owned the Sears version for awhile (1995 models, one step below the electronic Lady K) and was happy with them and had no fabric damage problems. The spin vibration on mine was unacceptable, and I was told that's the way it was. I have since learned from club members however of various ways of alleviating this. The woman I spoke to with the newer Whirlpool says it is quiet during the spin and does not shake or vibrate at all.
Scott
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Post# 3691-8/13/2001-12:15 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: A couple of Sears/Whirlpool questions for Leslie (Forced Air Drying )
MESSAGE: Hi Scott - I just got my tall tub Kenmore which I hope will be installed next week being my kitchen is being renovated. I do wish they still made dishwashers with the fans to dry the dishes. I hope I do get both good washing and drying results.
Peter
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Post# 3692-8/13/2001-12:31 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (New KA DWs)
MESSAGE: Leslie, John, whom you will get to meet at the gathering is a WP tech care authorized human being so he knows how to install and use the machine. Jason had one almost just like it and when we were down visiting him his returned dirty dishes too. John says that he has sold many of them and no one is dissatisfied, but he thinks that the more a DW costs, the more people rinse before loading. They made one king size mistake with that mesh clutch bag that serves as a passive filter for flying food while doubling as a small items basket. John's water is hotter than 120, as is Jason's. Food is left on dishes and pans and is left between the racks and the walls and doors. Tom
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Post# 3693-8/13/2001-13:03 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (New KA DWs)
MESSAGE: When I called Whirlpool with the problem they gave me some story of a weep hole that gets clogged up, which causes the the dirty dishes. The only way to fix this was to change the pump and motor. That got done and I still had the problem.
I ended up giving the d/w to a friend who prerinses everything and she has had no problems at all. I went back to the Whirlpool Power Clean.
When I use a d/w, I use a d/w. Plates don't get rinsed or anything else. Bones and the like go in the trash, everyting else goes in d/w. It even gets used to clean car, washer/dryer, vacuum and any other parts from anything else that will fit. Even hub caps. I have never, not even once had anything come out of a Power Clean machine that was dirty.
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Post# 3694-8/13/2001-13:10 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (KA steam vent)
MESSAGE: This gap at the bottom of the Hobart KA's is where the foam comes out when you use hand dish soap instead of machine type.
A friend of mine did it while her mother was at work and I got to help clean up. Nice clean floor!
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Post# 3695-8/13/2001-13:25 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001! (1959 had two coin op models)
MESSAGE: That would be very frusterating Tom.
I remember the only time I ever got to go to a laundromat, when I was a kid, was when we went rented a cottage down the New Jersey shore for about three summers in a row. The first and only time I ever saw a Unimatic was at one of these laundromats in 1971 or 1972. They had all orange Speed Queens which were cool, but they also two of the very last coin-op Unimatics from 1964 with the round window lid. Since my mother was using the SQ's, some woman finally loaded up of the Unimatics and I got to see it run. I remember when the machine started to agitate the tub turned 3/4 or a turn and I thought to myself this poor machine must be on its last leg, spinning the tub when it was suppose to be agitating. 25 years later, it was that 3/4 turn of the tub, that made me realize what I had seen back in 1972.
The next time I saw a Unimatic run was in early 1996 at Gary Weible's house when we did a wash load in his beautiful WO-65. The tub did this 3/4 turn and I remember immediately thinking wait a minute, that machine back at that laundromat in 1972 wasn't worn out, but they all do this! Funny the little appliance details we appliance lovers can remember almost 25 years later.
Come to think of it, I can remember the trip to the laundomats more than I remember anything else about those vacations. YAY.
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Post# 3696-8/13/2001-14:21 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001! ("
Conventione Internationale"
)
MESSAGE: Robert
What a great feat of dedication and work, cant wait to try all those machines and learn about them from you all!!!!
Make sure you have a rest for the next few days before the big start..Have you warned the national grid of possible power surges!!!
Looking forward to meeting on friday
Cheers, Mike
p.s. That little bendix next to the library, sooooo cute, like your little own R2D2
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Post# 3697-8/13/2001-14:23 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi folks! (Tekky Stuff)
MESSAGE: Hi Janet
Welcome from me in UK, dont worry about the links I`ve only just got the hang of it myself after months of trying!!!
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 3698-8/13/2001-14:29 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (More Homework!!)
MESSAGE: Looking forward to finding out about these dishwashers as well guys... do they work differently to European models...
We have cold fill with electric heatrise and condensor drying, mainly risidual, a few with fan assist turbo drying .
Mike
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Post# 3699-8/13/2001-15:47 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: A couple of Sears/Whirlpool questions for Leslie
MESSAGE: Scott, there were many considerations that led to the demise of the 'Tri-dura' porcelain on steel Kitchenaid dishwashers. When Whirlpool acquired Kitchenaid in '86 the factory for Kitchenaid dishwashers was in Mt. Sterling KY. I understand it was a very ancient facility. Whirlpool kept production there for a while, then transferred it to the modern Findlay Ohio location around '89......about the same time the porcelain on steel tub Whirlpool/Kenmore was changing over to the polypropylene plastic tub. From what I know, the Hobart design was considered to be good, but there were washability and water/energy issues. As well as the cost involved in producing this machine.....ala....fan drying, porcelain tub, shipping damage, rather complex controls and water circulation systems. So all this was a catalyst for the new Stainless-steel tub KD-24 series introduced in the spring of '96. If you've seen it, it shares a lot of componenents with the plastic tub unit.....and is/was a sterling performer. Yes there are a lot of loyal Kitchenaid enthusiasts out there, but the sales of the new machine has never suffered with the redesigns etc. Now we are venturing into the 'tall-tub' business....and like the new HE3t, the new dishwashers are a collaborative effort between our U.S. and German design/engineering departments. By the way; I had a KD-21 Superba in the late '80s and enjoyed it very much. Now moving on to the direct-drive......I had just started working for the company in 1985, as a matter of fact my anniversary is 8/16. Anyway....those were 'heady' times........you can only imagine what was going on when you 'change the way America washes clothes'. I'll just leave it at that! The service techs were quite skepitcal.......again, the belt-drive had been around by then almost 40 years......so there was that 'comfort' factor. Now, we have new techs that have never seen a belt-drive, and after they've been trained on it, they wonder how anyone could have dealt working with them on a daily basis. To answer you question about the wash cycles, the 2 and 3 speed Whirlpool machines almost from 1987 XP series have had 'step-down' agitation. Where the 14 minute Normal cycle had 8 minutes of hi and 6 minutes of low speed washing. This is more than sufficient for good cleaning and fabric care. The p-press cycle is similar. More recent Kenmore machines behave this way too, however, many other Kenmores have a rotary speed selector that permits the user to control the agitation. This feature is scattered about on all the brands now. Overloading and overwashing can contribute to lint and abrasion. I've had a parade of direct-drive washers through the years and have not experienced clothes damage myself. Vibration is an interesting subject, and there are several things that should be checked. Usually if the washer is installed properly and it's mechanically correct it will behave. Best regards....Leslie.
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Post# 3700-8/13/2001-16:07 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A couple of Sears/Whirlpool questions for Leslie
MESSAGE: Leslie, thank you for all the interesting info and happy anniversary! A lot of what you have said mirrors my thoughts, ideas, and "imaginations". When I bought my KA Superba in 1996, it was the last of the original KA machines; in fact, the one I got was 1 of just 2 left in the store. The new ones were already there and similarly priced, but having always liked the original design could not convince myself to get the new one even though it was the same price.
Both my mother's and my own Sears dishwashers (mine is a portable) are the original Whirlpool style (not the tall tub) and they do great work. I've seen the tall tub ones in stores in both the KA and Sears styles and they look to be nice machines. Hopefully whatever issues people are experiencing will be ironed out. So looking forward to seeing the HE3T! Scott
P.S. Mom says you need to bring back the french door refrigerator. She had one for 14 years and loved it. She likes her new single door bottom freezer model too but liked the dual upper doors.
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Post# 3701-8/13/2001-16:08 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (New KA DWs)
MESSAGE: Somethings not quite Kosher here. I feel pretty darn confident that there is an answer.....you should not have to rinse.....scrape excess amounts yes, rinse no! My brother has a new tall-tub Superba and raves about it. My sister in law and nephews basically load the thing with a pitch fork and tell me how much better the cleaning is when compared to thier old KD20 series unit. I don't think they use the mesh sack .....I think it's under their kitchen sink with the small items basket from the old dishwasher. I'm thinking if there is food soils that basically have been relocated from one item to another or onto the tub, there is a water circulation issue. I'm not sure about this 'weep' hole......Leslie
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Post# 3702-8/13/2001-17:01 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: A couple of Sears/Whirlpool questions for Leslie (KA - Hobart design washability?)
MESSAGE: What exactly were the washability issues? It's a given to a degree with the models that had the single Hydro-Sweep arm at the bottom, but the 2nd arm later took care of that.
I have a KA Superba series 22. Have been very happy with it.
LINK: http://users.wcnet.net/dadoes/dirtydish/dirtydish.htm
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Post# 3703-8/13/2001-17:23 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: A couple of Sears/Whirlpool questions for Leslie (KA - Hobart design washability?)
MESSAGE: Nothing in conjunction with your machine. However, going forward; to comply with EPA & DOE requirements and the ensuing need to reduce water/energy plus keep good cleaning could not have been easily achieved with the water circulation system those units employed. There is an quite a bit of water needed per fill to run the pump and wash arms because of the upper rack feed. It's on the outside of the tank and heat is lost there too. Energy / water and cost really drives the designs today. Take care....Leslie
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Post# 3704-8/13/2001-17:27 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: A couple of Sears/Whirlpool questions for Leslie (KA - Hobart design washability?)
MESSAGE: Ahem, I notice you've got hard water calcium film on your Hydrosweep & element! Try jet-dry dishwasher cleaner, it will strip that residue. Best regards....Leslie
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Post# 3705-8/13/2001-17:49 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: A couple of Sears/Whirlpool questions for Leslie (KA - Hobart design washability?)
MESSAGE: I've tried some kind of cleaner, not sure if it was JetDry brand. Also have tried the "Tang" trick. Neither seemed to have much effect. Any other suggestions?
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Post# 3706-8/13/2001-18:02 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: A couple of Sears/Whirlpool questions for Leslie (KA - Hobart design washability?)
MESSAGE: CLR or Line Away
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Post# 3707-8/13/2001-18:12 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: A couple of Sears/Whirlpool questions for Leslie (KA - Hobart design washability?)
MESSAGE: OK, have thought about that, haven't tried it. I might even have some LimeAway. How much to use? Just run it through a cycle, or let it spray/soak/spray/soak for a while.
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Post# 3708-8/13/2001-18:22 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: A couple of Sears/Whirlpool questions for Leslie (KA - Hobart design washability?)
MESSAGE: Plain white vinegar works too. Smells though. Pour about a quart into the tub during the main wash. Allow it to circulate a few minutes then....stop the washer and let it sit for about 30 minutes. Then resume. The Jet-dry dishwasher cleaner is known for producing good results. It is a blend of citric acid and sulfamic acid with a lemon scent.
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Post# 3709-8/13/2001-18:30 ||| miss jet cone (Hopkins ,MN)
SUBJECT: my new toy's
MESSAGE: HI TO ALL!
I just wanted to let you all know that I orderd
my new HE3T washer & gas dryer at the mall
of america today. They are going to be deliverd
this thur. my birthday of all day's. they will be
the color grafite so maybe you all would like to
see them this sat at my house.
see you all then love karen !!
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Post# 3710-8/13/2001-18:33 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: A couple of Sears/Whirlpool questions for Leslie (KA - Hobart design washability?)
MESSAGE: I usually pour about, ummmm that much in. LOL It says how much to use on the bottle, but I never follow those directions. I just dump some in and run it through the wash cycle atleast twice, stop the machine before it drains and reset it to the start of the cycle. After the second time I open the door before it drains and see if there is gunk left, if there is I let it go again and then let it finish the cycle. Then run it through another cycle to get all the chemicals out of the machine.
If I remember correctly you can't reset the wash cycle on the 22, so you will probablly have to add more cleaner after the first drain and second if needed.
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Post# 3711-8/13/2001-18:35 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: my new toy's
MESSAGE: CONGRATULATIONS!!!! What wonderful news. I really hope you enjoy them. Please keep us posted as to how you like them.
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Post# 3712-8/13/2001-19:09 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: Appnut's appliances
MESSAGE: Here are pics of my kitchen appliances, mega-laundry day sorting, and dishwasher loads. Except for towels, sheets, & the 'Whites" load--done on Normal, all other loads done on knit/delicate & then put on normal spin for 4 minutes. Thank you Scott for all your help!!!!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/appnut/lst?&.dir=/Bob%27s+Appliances&.src=ph&.begin=9999&.view=t&.order=&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/appnut/lst%3f%26.dir=/Bob%2527s%2bAppliances%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 3713-8/13/2001-19:19 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A couple of Sears/Whirlpool questions for Leslie (KA - Hobart design washability?)
MESSAGE: Great pictures Dadoes, thanks for the step by step process shots. How much water does your dw use anyway?
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Post# 3714-8/13/2001-19:20 ||| Golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi folks! (Yo!)
MESSAGE: Hi Janet
Welcome...I'm your neighbor to the south...in Orange County. My name is Rich. I'm glad you have joined us. We are getting quite a California contingent going here in the club!
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Post# 3715-8/13/2001-19:20 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: my new toy's
MESSAGE: Karen, did they have the HE3T on the Sales floor at the Mall of America Sears? Will everyone be able to see it on Sunday?
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Post# 3716-8/13/2001-19:23 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Appnut's appliances
MESSAGE: Thanks for sharing Bob, lots of laundry to be done! I didn't know you had a digital camera or were those scans?
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Post# 3717-8/13/2001-19:26 ||| Golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001!
MESSAGE: Absolutely astounding, Robert! Your floor turned out fantastic. I can't wait to walk on it! ;-)
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Post# 3718-8/13/2001-19:30 ||| Golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001! (towel in detergent)
MESSAGE: Hi Janet...I think it was Breeze that put towels in their detergent. A different size towel in the different sized detergent boxes.
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Post# 3719-8/13/2001-19:34 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001! (Cold Rinse)
MESSAGE: Uni, I was thinking more in terms of either the Turq 58 Frigidaire, the Philco-Bendix Duomatic. Naturally, all garments would have to be spun via 1140 rpm Unimatic prior to being put in dryer. There's still somewhat of a secret harboring to use the WP Combo, but since rinsing isn't that great, I may have to forgoe that fantasy of seeing my clothes washed in the WP combo. Then again, could do a final Frigidaire Rinse & Spin and then put back in WP Combo to "dry". Decisions decisions!!!!
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Post# 3720-8/13/2001-19:38 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001! (Cold Rinse)
MESSAGE: The Westy Laundromat has consideration too. You know me, I've just gotta get my front-loader fetish dealt with. My suitecase is limited to over-head bin carry-on, but I'll be packing the laundry rolled up to get in as much as I can. And the ultimate would be able to dry in a Filtrator (sigh). Excuse me while I go get some oxygen!!! and have a smoke.
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Post# 3721-8/13/2001-19:59 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A couple of Sears/Whirlpool questions for Leslie (say it isn't so Leslie?)
MESSAGE: Leslie I was just poking around the Sears Kenmore website and was looking at the dishwashers. I clicked on portable dishwashers and noticed there was no Sears variant except for the "skinny mini" model. Did Whirlpool discontinue manufacture of portable dishwashers with the introduction of the tall tub dishwashers? Is it possible for a tall tub dishwasher to be made in a portable version (I can't imagine why not) This has ALREADY been a much too hard to find item in recent years, and yours is/was probably the best of the lot.
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Post# 3722-8/13/2001-20:00 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (New KA DWs)
MESSAGE: So, Jason, I guess I best be changing my dw lust from the KA to either the tall-tub Whirlpool Gold or the high-end model of the new Whirlpool PowerClean (Energy Star) dws. Leslie, any comments. P.S., I've got a few questions I'll be grilling you about anyway this weekend.
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Post# 3723-8/13/2001-20:04 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001! (1959 had two coin op models)
MESSAGE: Yes Uni, I remember those 3/4 turns on Frigidaires when when I was a kid too. Always fascinated me. Turbo, I got to see my first Unimatic run at my Aunts house (a 1951-1954 model) when i was about 4 when I had to stay with them for a week. Loved the pulsing noise and splashing even then. And yes, my parents said, on most vacations, all I wanted to do was stop & do laundry at laundramats. Drove them crazy. I'd pout until we got to wash again.
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Post# 3724-8/13/2001-20:06 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (More Homework!!)
MESSAGE: Mike, since wwe don't have high-voltage electricity here for our dishwashers, they all fill with hot water supplied by the hot water tank.
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Post# 3725-8/13/2001-20:13 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (New KA DWs)
MESSAGE: The next new d/w I get will be the tall tub Whirlpool. I miss my KDS19 which is dead in the back yard, but I will never, ever miss the KUDS01, ever! For as long as I live and then some. Ok, I think I got it all out of my system now.
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Post# 3726-8/13/2001-20:19 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Appnut's appliances
MESSAGE: Uni, since I really don't take pictures well, I used one of those "disposable" cameras and had the pics put on a diskette. Emailed them to Scott & he got them on a photo album for me.
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Post# 3727-8/13/2001-20:22 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: A couple of Sears/Whirlpool questions for Leslie (say it isn't so Leslie?)
MESSAGE: Scott.......it isn't so! Currently Sears offers a low-end model that features a standard wash system.......aka spray arm with pop-up wash tower. Then there is the Ultra-wash version with the premium pump & wash system. I have not heard of what is going to happen with the portable as far as a tall-tub version. The standard & Ultra-wash units will continue to be offered even in the undercounter series. It the good...better...best story.
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Post# 3728-8/13/2001-20:22 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: A couple of Sears/Whirlpool questions for Leslie (say it isn't so Leslie?)
MESSAGE: Scott, Whirlpool's web site has a portable model (a 940) of their new Energy Star Series.
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Post# 3729-8/13/2001-20:23 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A couple of Sears/Whirlpool questions for Leslie (say it isn't so Leslie?)
MESSAGE: Well, maybe Sears just didn't post it in their website or it needs updating, but I checked Whirlpool's website and they have not 1, but 4 full size portable d/w models. Good, good.
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Post# 3730-8/13/2001-20:25 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (New KA DWs)
MESSAGE: Well, then Jason, shoot for the Model 1500. Has more features than the 1200. See both of you in 4 days!!!!
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Post# 3731-8/13/2001-20:28 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (New KA DWs)
MESSAGE: HQOTS too bad we could'nt have compared notes when you still had this machine. I can understand your disappointment and frustration. A considerable amount of time and effort is made to insure that these machines perform. I'm really curious as to just what could have been wrong? Best regards.....Leslie
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Post# 3732-8/13/2001-20:37 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A couple of Sears/Whirlpool questions for Leslie (say it isn't so Leslie?)
MESSAGE: Great! I have the Ultra Wash version, which I love. This is actually my second Sears d/w; I also had a 1988 top of the line portable, which was basically the same as the 1998 model I have now, except the pushbuttons were mechanical rather than the membrane type, and it had blue instead of white racks. (I moved in 1998 and sold the KA Superba d/w and Sears w/d to my former roommate, who still uses and enjoys them all, that's why the KA and Sears d/ws are so close together in age).
In the house with the 88 d/w we had what must have been one of the last belt drive Whirlpool washers. My roommate purchased it in early 1988 at the warehouse sale of one of our large dept. stores; it must have been older stock being a new belt drive in 1988. The model number was L(something)55(something) and the matching gas dryer. It was a 2 speed with 3 water levels, 4 temps, Normal, delicate, pp, and super wash, and a recirculating filter, standard capacity.
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Post# 3733-8/13/2001-21:18 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (New KA DWs)
MESSAGE: Hi Bob,
You won't be seeing me this time around, but I am sure you will next year.
Jason
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Post# 3734-8/13/2001-21:22 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (New KA DWs)
MESSAGE: Who knows what was wrong with it. They changed out the pump/motor and the control board. The only kind thing I can say is that it was very quiet.
Jason
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Post# 3735-8/13/2001-21:28 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (New KA DWs)
MESSAGE: Rats, this may be the only convention I get to go to. It may be years before I can be able to attend again.
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Post# 3736-8/13/2001-21:46 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Appnut's appliances (Mount Laundry)
MESSAGE: Your laundry pile looks like the floor of my trailer on Sunday afternoon. Lots of laundry for the Whirly (and hope it doesn't bust a coupler).
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Post# 3737-8/13/2001-22:43 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Dyson Contra-Rotator
MESSAGE: Here is an interesting excerpt from a friend's post on the vac forum, who owns a vacuum shop and is a Dyson enthusiast. Interesting because I did not know these products were coming to America, just in case anyone is interested:
"There is so much going on in the world of vacuums right now it isn't even funny. Dyson is getting ready to release his contrarotator washing machine in America along with two models of dual cyclone cleaners. I am trying to get enough capital to both expand my store to take on the washing machine line, and also decrease my vacuum selection to just Dysons and Air-Ways. Really, why not just buy the best instead of junk? I'm in the process of obtaining my automatic Dyson DC06 (it cleans house by itself with no human assistance)."
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Post# 3738-8/13/2001-22:43 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Appnut's appliances
MESSAGE: Wow! What a lot of laundry you have - I could never go a month without washing, I'd go into washer withdrawl. That LK washer is the same one I had back in '86 when I worked at Sears and got a super good deal on a returned LK pair. I had them for about 6 months and sold them to some horrible woman who called on the ad - I knew they would never be appreciated again!
Thanks for the pics - it's great to see where everyone washes!
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Post# 3739-8/13/2001-22:50 ||| rapidry1000 (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi folks! (Welcome!)
MESSAGE: Hello Janet from Jim (rapidry1000) in Northern California -San Francisco. You will love the interchange on this site. It's absolutely informative and enjoyable. The people are great.
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Post# 3740-8/13/2001-23:19 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Dyson Contra-Rotator (Dysons Suck)
MESSAGE: I think your friend is silly if he is only going to stock Dysons and Airways. I dont know about airways but all Dyson has going for it is the Wow! Factor. Just because you can see the dust being sucked up doesnt make it a better cleaner.
Hoover Windtunnels always come tops in suction performance. And as for the Dyson washing machine I have never seen anything so hideously ugly in all my life!!
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Post# 3741-8/13/2001-00:14 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Dyson Contra-Rotator (Dysons Suck)
MESSAGE: Take a breath, arrrooohhh, you made your point! LOL
I have no intention personally of buying either the vacuum or the washer, but awhile back there was some chatting back and forth on the club about the Dyson washer, and I thought I'd let everyone know that it was coming to America just as a point of interest, what with all the changes and new products that have been coming about here in the last few years. The Air-Way canister cleaners Tom sells are an excellent American made product however, and he is definitely right to be proud of selling those. I saw a Dyson cleaner at the convention. It was interesting for me to see one in person but they really are not my cup of tea.
Now, I just wish AEG would make some inroads in the United States!
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Post# 3742-8/13/2001-00:16 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (Wax Motor?)
MESSAGE: Excuse me for being outta-the-technical-loop . . . but what exactly is a "wax motor?"
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Post# 3743-8/13/2001-00:40 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: A couple of Sears/Whirlpool questions for Leslie (Series 22 Superba Water Usage)
MESSAGE: According to the man-u-al . . .
Soak & Scrub = 12.25 gallons, 90.5 minutes
Normal = 10 gallons, 78 minutes
Light = 9.75 gallons, 49.5 minutes
Quick/Glass = 7.5 gallons, 34.5 mins w/dry, 18 mins w/o dry
Rinse/Hold = 2.25 gallons, 6 minutes
So . . . a single fill takes 2.25 gallons. Normal and Light have the same number of fills, except Light skips a pump purge between the first wash and first rinse -- that accounts for the water-use difference.
I assume cycle times do not include water heating delays. Soak/Scrub always heats the first two washes. Normal heats the first wash. Light and Glass do not have wash heat delays.
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Post# 3744-8/13/2001-00:53 ||| Janet Planet (Northridge, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Appnut's appliances (Washing laundry & dishes)
MESSAGE: Appnut:
That's some powerful assortment of dirty laundry!
Re your DW: I must admit I did admire your classic avocado green and white Pyrex mixing bowls and casseroles, along with your Revere Ware copper bottom sauce pans.
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Post# 3745-8/13/2001-01:05 ||| Janet Planet (Northridge, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi folks! (California Contingent)
MESSAGE: Todd/austinado16, Jim/rapidry1000 and Rich/golittlesport:
Heck, we've got a good part of the state covered with just us four: San Francisco, San Luis Obispo, Los Angeles and Orange County!
Hope you all enjoyed the cookies & milk last night for your bedtime snacks.
-Janet Planet
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Post# 3746-8/14/2001-04:54 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Appnut's appliances (Mount Laundry)
MESSAGE: Jason, the heaviest loads I do are the towels and they get done about once every 6 weeks. I hope it doesn't bust the coupler either. My parents have put their name on the waiting list for an assisted living center place. I've already asked for my Mom's Maytag 9804 washer--will match my dryer. She has my dryer, but it's gas, & my house is all-electric. So, they'll sell the dryer at estate sale. I personally believe the slightly slower stroke will be more gentle on my clothes. With the current washer being 15 years old October 19th, I know its lifespan isn't that of a belt-drive machine. And as my Dad says, having the Maytag will give me some additional time--a year or two-to see how the bugs are worked out for the new Whirlpool Duets & Kenmore HET3 front loaders.
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Post# 3747-8/14/2001-05:00 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Appnut's appliances
MESSAGE: Greg, I still may do one or two loads through the month--so there's not complete washer withdrawl. As an example, the last two Sundays I've done 6 loads each. Having a concentrated once a month almost cures the withdrawl into overdose. I mean, my washer is so ho-hum. To me, a Maytag would be more exciting--especially with my possible upcoming 9804 from my Mom, complete with the swishing powerfin-12 agitator. And, I can play with the energy saver switch while it's filling to sense the slight difference in water temps. Remember, I have a low-threshhold of excitement & drama here. But, someday, I'll have my front loader and that will be a new kettle of fish all together.
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Post# 3748-8/14/2001-05:04 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: A couple of Sears/Whirlpool questions for Leslie (Series 22 Superba Water Usage)
MESSAGE: Glenn, the other reduction for Light, in terms of time, comes from the fact that the main wash is shortened through an advance of the timer during the wash as well as a shorter drying time and "rinses" that are shorter in time too. That's what I noticed about older Superbas from the 70s & 80s.
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Post# 3749-8/14/2001-05:07 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Appnut's appliances (Washing laundry & dishes)
MESSAGE: Janet, thanks. Per dishwasher contents, I'm so old, I'm the original owner of every piece. The Pyrex started being collected while in college, beginning in 1974-1976. The RevereWare, 1978-1984. The white dishes (mostly from 1962), well, those are the ones I grew up with that went through both of our Waste Kings & a Kenmore rotorack. My mom got tired of them so she gave me the set when I got my first apartment in college and that's when they gave me the initial pieces to the pyrex too.
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Post# 3750-8/14/2001-05:39 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001! (1959 had two coin op models)
MESSAGE: Robert, when we got the 58 LK, the salesman told us not to wash rugs in it. We had gobs of throw rugs; at doors, in the kitchen, bathrooms, in the basement, you name it so we started going to coin-ops. There was even a Kelvinator-equipped laundry we went to. the Frigidaires were my favorites until they changed the agitators, then I started using front loaders as part of my plan to get a FL at home. TT
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Post# 3751-8/14/2001-06:13 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: A couple of Sears/Whirlpool questions for Leslie (KA - Hobart design washability?)
MESSAGE: Leslie, I am afraid you hit the nail on the head when you said that water and energy use drives the designs today. Stupid bureaucrats, and believe me I know, I work with some of the stupidest, make decisions about energy use with precious little grounding in reality and then manufacturers try to comply and then they try to compete to see who can use the least. When I use a DW, I want it to give me clean, dry dishes at the end of the cycle. I got used to that in the early 60s. With some of the new DWs water consumption is getting so low, you could stand in front of it and piss on the dishes and get more wash action. The one after rinse in the KA DWs was ridiculous. It is very telling that the WP tall tubs do not have the energy star rating because they want great cleaning. I remember Whirlpool/KitchAid's sleazy solution to the streaking and inadequate rinsing in the previous model of stainless steel tank machines; they removed the gasket from the cover of the main wash detergent compartment so more of it would wash out during the prewash, giving a lower detergent concentration in the main wash to make the inadequate rinse less inadequate by sacrificing washing. John had to replace a dispenser and thought he had received a defective one because there was no gasket, but WP told him that was the way they were until they figured out how to rinse better, but they would not add another rinse because it would mess up the energy figures. When I used my 21 and 22 electronic machines, I would fill a container with 3 or 4 quarts of hot water and dump it in when the machine had filled for the post wash purge to get better rinsing. Tom
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Post# 3752-8/14/2001-06:18 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: A couple of Sears/Whirlpool questions for Leslie (KA - Hobart design washability?)
MESSAGE: Leslie, I never had film or "deposits" on the interior parts of my 14 or 18, but the inadequate rinsing of the 21 and 22 always left a film you could wipe off with a finger tip. A cheaper demineralizer is Fruit Fresh, the citric acid that keeps peaches, apples etc. from yellowing while you are preparing them for preserving. Tom
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Post# 3753-8/14/2001-06:21 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: my new toy's
MESSAGE: Karen, Congratulations. Is the washer 110 or 220 volts? Tom
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Post# 3754-8/14/2001-06:24 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001!
MESSAGE: Rich wear stiletto heels and watch him faint as you walk down the middle. Tom
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Post# 3755-8/14/2001-06:27 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001! (Cold Rinse)
MESSAGE: Bob, isn't smoking sorta dangerous while using oxygen? KB (KA Boom)
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Post# 3756-8/14/2001-06:34 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (High Voltage DWs)
MESSAGE: Bob, two 220 volt DWs come to mind from the very late 60s, early 70s and they were actually the same because the Chambers and the Lady Kenmore were both D&M machines. They were available in both 110/120 and 220/240 versions. With virtually uninsulated tanks the 110/120 offered the option of 150 degree water heating while the 220/240 version offered water heating to 180. Like other D&M machines, I believe these were circulating water temps. Tom
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Post# 3757-8/14/2001-06:38 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (New KA DWs)
MESSAGE: But if the WP tall tub uses the same pump as the KUDZU, it might suffer from the same plugged weep hole problem, unless that was plain old fashion BS and the increased water consumption of the WP actually means better results. TT
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Post# 3758-8/14/2001-06:41 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (Jason's KUDZU)
MESSAGE: Jason, it should have been quiet, it wasn't doing much. TT
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Post# 3759-8/14/2001-06:44 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Dyson Contra-Rotator (Dyson DC06)
MESSAGE: Damn, if it offered the option of sex, it would be all most people would need. Tom
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Post# 3760-8/14/2001-07:46 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001! (Cold Rinse)
MESSAGE: Who said I won't have a blast while I'm there anyway???
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Post# 3761-8/14/2001-07:47 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: my new toy's
MESSAGE: Karen, I wish there was time for us to come over and see these new bad boys in action. But with our schedule, our invasion of Sears at MOA may be the extent.
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Post# 3762-8/14/2001-07:49 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Tom Turbo (High Voltage DWs)
MESSAGE: Tom, I never forgot these two machines as part of my club lessons. It's just NOW, there's nothing on the market that I know of--save for commercial undercounter Hobarts & comparables.
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Post# 3763-8/14/2001-09:08 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001! (Cold Rinse)
MESSAGE: You can use any machine you'd like appnut, or do them twice. Don't worry about the Whirlpool Combo not rinsing too well. It really rinses just fine as a matter of fact the jeans I wearing today were washed, rinsed and dried in the WP Combo. It just doesn't rinse as well as a solid-basket Top Loaders, especially the ones that actually spin the clothes (and I ain't talking no 500rpm here) between the wash and rinses.
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Post# 3764-8/14/2001-09:11 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A couple of Sears/Whirlpool questions for Leslie (Series 22 Superba Water Usage)
MESSAGE: Interesting, my '56 Frigidaire Dishwasher uses 7.5 gallons per run.
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Post# 3765-8/14/2001-09:12 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001! (1959 had two coin op models)
MESSAGE: I would love to see a Kelvinator Coin-op, I can't imagine what they look like.
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Post# 3766-8/14/2001-09:16 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001! (1959 had two coin op models)
MESSAGE: Tom, do you know why the salesman would have told you that? In my experience the belt driven Sears machines do great with rugs, as did the direct drive. In fact, the only machine I've come across that can't handle rugs are the GEs.
Did the Kelvinator laundromat machines have the same centric/enerJETic/golden touch agitation (I don't know why they changed the name so often) as the home models?
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Post# 3767-8/14/2001-09:26 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Appnut's appliances
MESSAGE: Bob, I hope you don't intend to load that Maytag washer the way the Lady Kenmore is loaded. I'm suprised that the clothes come clean. I can say without a doubt that if the Maytag was loaded that way nothing would come clean and the machine may open it's lid and throw-up some of the clothes just so it agitate a little.
Oh I can hear the motor and tranny now screaming for help!!
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Post# 3768-8/14/2001-10:16 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001! (Cold Rinse)
MESSAGE: I would say that you are being generous to the combo, Robert and that you must not have any skin allergies, but I am not saying it leaves clothes with a lethal amount of detergent. The friend who had the one that I got used to do a whole load with a cap of Wisk when it came in the metal can and the last rinse was less sudsy than the wash. The loads did spin OK throughout the rinsing phase without going out on OOB and that probably helped also. You did spin your jeans in something else before drying, right? Tom
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Post# 3769-8/14/2001-10:26 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001! (1959 had two coin op models)
MESSAGE: Scott, service men said the same thing, and not just Sears service men. A neighbor with a 59 Filter Flo took her rugs to the launderette on advice of her repair man. I don't know why it was recommended, but it was a lot more fun visiting various launderettes than washing rugs at home. Yes, the Kelvinators had the same action and the agitator cap with the 4 little wings on it. Somehow, it seems the cap was red. Could this have been so with the black agitator? Robert? Tom
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Post# 3770-8/14/2001-10:28 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001! (1959 had two coin op models)
MESSAGE: Tom, I think one of Jetcone's ABC washers has a black agitator with red cap. Striking combination. I like the turquoise ones as well.
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Post# 3771-8/14/2001-10:33 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001! (Washed and Dried while I sleep)
MESSAGE: Nope, no extra spinning here, when I use the Whirlpool Combo, I usually put the 4 pair of jeans in right before I go to bed so they are washed and dried when I'm sleeping, just like the Bendix ad, minus the woman and the kids. So it washed and dried all on its own. Its rare that with 4 pair of jeans that the WP Combo goes out of balance, and I now have fixed the OOB excursion switch so its set only to tumble about 12 seconds and go right back into spin again. With the modern HE detergents, the combo has almost no suds by the second rinse, and the third rinse is almost always clear, you'll have to try it out over the weekend!
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Post# 3772-8/14/2001-10:33 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001! (1959 had two coin op models)
MESSAGE: Yes, I have a red Kelvinator Cap Tom.
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Post# 3773-8/14/2001-11:10 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Appnut's appliances
MESSAGE: I got it Bob. If you wash that much clothes at once you need a Calypso!! That would handle it and it's gentle too!
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Post# 3774-8/14/2001-11:31 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Appnut's appliances
MESSAGE: Jason, I loaded up my KA pretty goodly at times. I didn't have any particularly serious washability issues with it, and it has never "popped a coupler" (or had any repairs of any kind). I did sometimes trip the water level to reset to get more fill, and also reset the timer for more wash time and more rinse agitation.
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Post# 3775-8/14/2001-11:35 ||| miss jet cone (Hopkins ,MN)
SUBJECT: RE: my new toy's ( HE3T washer info)
MESSAGE:
HI ROBERT !
The m.o.america sears did not have them
on the floor yet.But they had the he3t work shop
at the edn prairie sears store so they had them
for display there.we went over e.p. sears they
were there but they were not set up for demos yet
sorry.
thanks karen
sorry karen
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Post# 3776-8/14/2001-11:47 ||| miss jet cone (Hopkins ,MN)
SUBJECT: RE: my new toy's (karen new HE3T's)
MESSAGE:
HI TOM !
That' OK I understand we will be busy.
The washer is standard 120 v ~60 .
karen
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Post# 3777-8/14/2001-12:20 ||| worldtravler (Detroit/Ypsilanti, MI)
SUBJECT: RE: my new toy's (HE3T's have hit some midwest Sears stores)
MESSAGE: I saw the new Kenmore Elite HE3T washer and dryer yesterday at one of the larger local Sears stores while picking up vacuum bags. I must say, these are larger and more impressive in person. They both have a graceful, curved silhouette front to accomodate the large drums. The pedestal bases are interesting. They resemble a storage drawer under a range but with less room. The only thing I think most people would be able to store there would be hangers, Bounce or clothes pins...very shallow with dividers. However, the pedestals do put everything at eye level, which is nice. The only concern I saw in the washer was the quality of the door. The door felt "flimsy" when opening and closing and the hinge had a lot of flex. Maybe I am being too critical but for $1500 I expect a solid, beefy feeling machine. Sears is offering the same financing with the new HE3T as they did when the Calypso was intoduced...one year zero percent and they'll take it back for any reason if you are not satisfied. Hopefully, the MOA will have it on display for inspection this wekend.
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Post# 3778-8/14/2001-13:13 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: On our way
MESSAGE: Drove up to Wisconsin Saturday - Sunday and currently visiting with my brother and his family.
Saturday morning, I made a special trip to the back of the Salvation Army (at 6 am in the morning) to go 'dumpster diving.' Have a selection of things to stain and wash at the convention. Also a few other surprises!
See you all, soon,
Steve 1-18
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Post# 3779-8/14/2001-14:30 ||| geodon2000 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001! (accoutrements...)
MESSAGE: robert...
the showroom looks absolutely fabulous...
i am so looking forward to the weekend...
by the way...
is this b.y.o.d.?...
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Post# 3780-8/14/2001-15:20 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: my new toy's ( HE3T washer info)
MESSAGE: I will call, if they have them at the Eden Prairie store we could take a field trip to that store after we do the Mall of America.
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Post# 3781-8/14/2001-15:21 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: On our way
MESSAGE: Perfect, I can't wait to see the other surprises too! Steve are you going to arrive with a Unimatic strapped to the roof???
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Post# 3782-8/14/2001-15:24 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001! (accoutrements...)
MESSAGE: Thanks Geroge. Certaintly, BYOD, bring your own detergent if you want to try something you like in a vintage machine. I don't usually allow Bleach in my machines, but for the convention, if we us it gently, we can use a cup or two of bleach.
Can't wait to meet you.
Three Days and Counting Appliancevillers, Jetcone, the first to arrive, arrives tomorrow morning, YAY. Its getting exciting.
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Post# 3783-8/14/2001-15:29 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Good News for the Convention Weather Forecast
MESSAGE: After weeks and weeks of blazing sun and temperatures near or above 90 (32C) this weekend is suppose to be nice and cool, for us, which is just fabulous considering all the drying we'll be doing!
Minneapolis-St. Paul Forecast...
Thursday through Saturday
No rain expected. Lows 55 to 60. Highs in the middle to upper 70s.
Sunday and Monday
Still dry. Lows 50 to 55. Highs in the lower to middle 70s.
LINK: http://www.wunderground.com/US/MN/Minneapolis.html
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Post# 3784-8/14/2001-15:33 ||| geodon2000 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001! (accoutrements...)
MESSAGE: robert...
seems as though i may have a bit of persil remaining...
we can test in the westy or other f/l and see if it deserves the accolades it receives in "that home site"...
geodon
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Post# 3785-8/14/2001-16:06 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Good News for the Convention Weather Forecast
MESSAGE: I clocked 104° and 107° on last Saturday and Sunday afternoon. I don't know how accurate that is, but it was damn hot.
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Post# 3786-8/14/2001-17:58 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Good News for the Convention Weather Forecast
MESSAGE: Well Robert....you've certainly ordered some perfect weather for the convention! You think of everything!
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Post# 3787-8/14/2001-19:34 ||| nmaineman36 (Portland Maine)
SUBJECT: RE: Appnut's appliances (Maytag washer)
MESSAGE: Hey everyone..I know long time no chat! I have changed out the agitator on my Maytag LAT 9357 from the Power Flex 12 to the original turqouse Power fin that was used like on the A510. Wanna talk about power WOW!!!!! This mommy moves and it doesnt suds up like the Power Flex. Thats the agitator they should be using. It even cleans better too.
Mike
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Post# 3788-8/14/2001-20:45 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Appnut's appliances (Maytag washer)
MESSAGE: Welcome back! I would have thought you would have gotten rid of that Maytag in favor of the Frigidaire 1-18 by now - still having good luck with it?
Planning any visits home to CB this summer? Maybe we can send you home with washer!
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Post# 3789-8/14/2001-21:14 ||| nmaineman36 (Portland Maine)
SUBJECT: RE: Appnut's appliances (Maytag washer)
MESSAGE: I still have the WC-7 Frigidaire washer and it still runs well. I gave it some time off for the time being. Alot has happened in my life as now I am seeing someone and he happens to be the love of my life. I know how many time have well all said that but this one is very intense. He lives in Albany NY and I am here near Portland so thats a hefty 250 miles for us and we have seen each other every weekend so far.
I went to a nude beach a couple of weeks ago in VT and that was oh so much fun. Never had I done anything like that but being in the mountains and this pristine stream you cant help but get nekkid. But thats what I have been up to so far!
Mike
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Post# 3790-8/14/2001-21:26 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001! (Cold Rinse)
MESSAGE: Geez Uni, a double wash on the wsame load. I KNOW I'm coming to a fantasy land for sure!!! I may just have to do this. Ooops, time for a another smoke!!!
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Post# 3791-8/14/2001-21:36 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Appnut's appliances
MESSAGE: No, Jason, I wouldn't do that to that 9804. I know it just doesn't have that kind of capacity. Loosely load to top row of holes in the tub and that's it. Besidees, means more loads of wash. Surprisingly, the 9824 dryer handles that largest load very well. Other than that largest load of towels, and possibly the "whites" load, what other loads are you having a problem with? 3/4 to 7/8 max is about what I fill for all stuf done on gentle. Even if I did that Perm Press shirts load on PP, it seems such a waste of water with all that water and the clothes almost appearing to be nonexistant. That's why I want a front loader.
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Post# 3792-8/14/2001-21:40 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Appnut's appliances
MESSAGE: Jason, sounds like a great idea, but remember, I'm not coordinated/mechanically inclined to override that stupid safety switch. I still wanna see what's goin' on in my washer.
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Post# 3793-8/14/2001-21:42 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Appnut's appliances
MESSAGE: Thanks Glenn for defending me. I too, after 2 mins. of agitation on cotton absorbant loads, do a reset so it will replenish the water sucked up by the load.
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Post# 3794-8/14/2001-21:44 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: my new toy's (karen new HE3T's)
MESSAGE: Karen, bring the owners manuals if you come to the convention. I wanna see descriptions of cycles/values for both the washer & dryer. Bob
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Post# 3795-8/14/2001-21:49 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: The Official Unveiling of the Convention Center - Minneapolis 2001! (accoutrements...)
MESSAGE: Well, I'll have to bum some detergent off someone. I'll be doing great just to get me and the laundry there.
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Post# 3796-8/14/2001-21:51 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Good News for the Convention Weather Forecast
MESSAGE: Hmm, sounds a bit chilly to me. But if it can get to mid to upper 70s, I'll be okay in my shorts & polos.
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Post# 3797-8/14/2001-21:55 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Appnut's appliances (Maytag washer)
MESSAGE: Mikey, I'm glad my pics brought you back out with us. I've missed hearing from you. Bob
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Post# 3798-8/14/2001-21:57 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Good News for the Convention Weather Forecast
MESSAGE: No Bob it is NOT chilly! This is the way it is SUPPOSED to be! That weather we've had for the last month and a half is positively INSANE and unfit for human habitation!! It's gorgeous now! I was ready to smack my sisters upside the head this weekend cuz Saturday night they kept saying how cold it was (LOL). The thought of this weather is the only thing that has been keeping me going.
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Post# 3799-8/14/2001-21:58 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Appnut's appliances (Maytag washer)
MESSAGE: Mike, I figured as much that's the reason why we've not heard from you. But, you could drop a guy a line just to say hi. I'm so thrilled for you. I've been dealing with a lot in my life too.
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Post# 3800-8/14/2001-21:58 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Good News for the Convention Weather Forecast (flight)
MESSAGE: Of course I"m just teasing you Bob much as I LOVE this weather we're having, but before you sign off please go and answer my email, as I need to get your flight time and number on my list. Thanks! :-)
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Post# 3801-8/14/2001-22:00 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Good News for the Convention Weather Forecast
MESSAGE: Yeah, but like Glenn, I've been dealing with 100 degree plus temps here too. To me, 60 sounds like long-sleeve shirts & jeans.
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Post# 3802-8/14/2001-22:03 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Good News for the Convention Weather Forecast
MESSAGE: Yes, just on that cusp between shirtsleeves and light jacket...my favorite kind of weather.
I understand where you're coming from with the 100 temps...we have been members of the 100+ club enough times to satisfy me for one summer, LOL!
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Post# 3803-8/14/2001-22:48 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Dyson Contra-Rotator (Dysons Suck)
MESSAGE: Hey Scott like I said I dont know much about Airway. Is there a web site to look at?
Speaking of washing machines, I am all for innovation. While the Dyson vacuum LOOKs innovative and forward, the washing machine is trying far too hard. All those grooves would just collect dust and muck an then the 1000 pound baby ( thats $3000 Aus) will look rather shabby. I am sure the machine works good but is it really nessacary? I mean clothes have been coming clean from whatever washing machine for years. If something is stained badly it recieves special attention but in general peoples washing isnt really that dirty, just smelly or in need of a freshen up. I mean in Summer I wash my shirst every day but in winter I can wear a shirt two or three times before it needs a wash.
ANyway I am getting side tracked but there is a thread on That Home Site about the Dyson washer. Started by that gal who cant make up her mind, Ms Amy Gibson.
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Post# 3804-8/14/2001-22:49 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: Hello To Janet Planet
MESSAGE: Great to have another female on board!!!
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Post# 3805-8/14/2001-22:54 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Dyson Contra-Rotator (Dysons Suck)
MESSAGE: Hi arrrooohhh, here is the website about the Air-Way vacuums. They are really nice machines. I've been watching that thread of Amy's, I like her but I hope her washer lasts a long time cuz every time someone mentions something new she puts off her purchase and considers something else, LOL. Far as the Dyson washer, it's kind of cool but it would have to be proven to me that those two drums going opposite directions aren't going to cause tangling problems. I assume when it spins both tubs go the same way. Will be interesting to see what happens with that and the HE3T! Scott
LINK: http://www.air-way.net/
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Post# 3806-8/14/2001-23:11 ||| Janet Planet (Northridge, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Appnut's appliances (washing laundry & dishes)
MESSAGE: Appnut: (snort!) don't give me the old "I'm so old" routine! LOL! I'm older than you are! And I'm a mom, too. Some years back when my son went off to get his Master's at Northwestern, I did the same thing your mom did for you: I gave him pots and dishes, & stuff like that.
Seeing those old Pyrex dishes and pots in your DW reminds me of when I was still living at home as a teenager. For a while, my parents had a portable DW on casters that snapped onto the kitchen sink faucet. I think it had some type of laminate on the top (I can't remember if it was fake wood or some pastel color). I always hated it when the hose started coming loose and sprayed water all over the place. Of course, because I was the oldest girl, I was the one who had to clean up the #?*@ing mess in the kitchen!
-Janet Planet
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Post# 3807-8/14/2001-23:24 ||| Janet Planet (Northridge, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Dyson Contra-Rotator (Airway vacs)
MESSAGE: Arrrooohh:
My husband just ordered an Airway yesterday from the factory; I can't wait to get it and REALLY vacuum. We emailed the factory a month ago after looking at their website and reading all the posts on THS' Appliance forum.
I really am excited about getting our new vacuum! I thought I'd never hear myself say that! Hubby has got nasty asthma and allergies, and we need something that really sucks up the dust. I'm tired of vacuums that blow out more dust than they suck up.
We wanted something sturdy and not plastic, and Airway seems to be it!
Janet
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Post# 3808-8/14/2001-23:24 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Dyson Contra-Rotator (Dysons Suck)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the link Scott.
I hope My makes up her mind soon! I think her husband must be going crazy!
I do like the look of the HE3T's! I doubt we will ever see them in Australia.
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Post# 3809-8/14/2001-23:32 ||| Janet Planet (Northridge, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Dyson Contra-Rotator (arrrooohhh: Air Way vacs)
MESSAGE: P.S.: I started to write something in the last post and forgot to finish the sentence. (Old age strikes again!) We emailed the factory a month ago after looking at their website, and they mailed us brochures and more stuff about the Airway.
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Post# 3810-8/14/2001-23:43 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Dyson Contra-Rotator (arrrooohhh: Air Way vacs)
MESSAGE: Hi Janet Hope it works well for you.
As we dont get airways is Aus I think i will be happy when I get myself a Hoover Windtunnel. They are always top performers.
We bought a new vacuum last Sept and as Mum didnt want to spend more than $200, we got an LG model. The perfromance is quite satisfactory. Actually after a few monthsa the carpet felt much cleaner undefoot. I guess that as the old vacuum didnt do much and that the new one was much more manourverable.
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Post# 3811-8/14/2001-23:45 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Dyson Contra-Rotator (arrrooohhh: Air Way vacs)
MESSAGE: I forgot to finish my sentance too!
It was more manouverable so we vaccumed more often like one should. Should vacuum twice a week and make at least four passes with the cleaning head.
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Post# 3812-8/14/2001-00:36 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Good News for the Convention Weather Forecast
MESSAGE: Bob, I'll do fine in shorts / short-sleeves in 70° and 60° weather. Heck, I generally wear shorts or am NIFOC in the midst of winter, such as it is in Texas.
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Post# 3813-8/14/2001-00:55 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: A little Texas humor to pass the time and heat
MESSAGE: Subject: A True Texan
You're a TRUE TEXAN If:
1. Your idea of a traffic jam is ten cars waiting to pass a tractor on the highway.
2. "Vacation" means going to the family reunion.
3. You've seen all the biggest bands ten years after they were popular.
4. You measure distance in minutes.
5. You know several people who have hit a deer.
6. Your school classes were canceled because of cold.
7. Your school classes were canceled because of heat.
8. You've ever had to switch from "heat" to "A/C" in the same day.
9. You think ethanol makes your truck "run a lot better."
10. Stores don't have bags, they have sacks.
11. Stores don't have shopping carts, they have buggies.
12. You see people wearing bib overalls at funerals.
13. You see a car running in the parking lot at the store with no one in it, no matter what time of the year.
14. You use "fix" as a verb. Example: I am fixing to go to the store.
15. All the festivals across the state are named after a fruit, vegetable, grain, or animal.
16. You install security lights on your house and garage and leave both unlocked.
17. You think of the major four food groups as beef, pork, beer, and Jell-O salad with marshmallows.
18. You carry jumper cables in your car... for your OWN car.
19. You know what "cow tipping" and "snipe hunting" is.
20. You only own four spices: salt, pepper, ketchup, and Tabasco.
21. You think everyone from a bigger city has an accent.
22. You think sexy lingerie is a tee shirt and boxer shorts.
23. The local paper covers national and international news on one page but requires 6 pages for sports.
24. You think that deer season is a national holiday.
25. You know which leaves make good toilet paper.
26. You find 90° F "a little warm."
27. You know all 4 seasons: Almost Summer, Summer, Still Summer, and Christmas.
28. You know if another Texan is from south, east, west, or north Texas as soon as they open their mouth.
29. There is a Dairy Queen in every town with a population of 1000 or more.
30. You describe the first cool snap (below 70 degrees) as good gumbo weather.
31. A carbonated soft drink isn't a soda or a cola or a pop-it's a coke, regardless of brand or flavor.
32. Going to Wal-Mart is a favorite past-time known as "goin' wal-martin'."
33. You recognize that cheese grits and catfish nuggets is a meal that just has been bestowed upon the people by the Lord
Himself.
34. You can be satisfied with a meal consisting only of a hunk of bread with flavored flour water (a delicacy known as
"biscuit n' gravy")
35. You actually get these jokes and forward them to all your friends from Texas [and those who aren't].
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Post# 3814-8/14/2001-01:03 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Dyson Contra-Rotator (Airway vacs)
MESSAGE: That's great Janet! Which model did you get? I know you will like it very very much! Scott
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Post# 3815-8/14/2001-01:08 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A little Texas humor to pass the time and heat
MESSAGE: That's really fun Glenn, thanks for posting it!
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Post# 3816-8/15/2001-05:23 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: A little Texas humor to pass the time and heat
MESSAGE: Glenn, you described life in Temple to a "t". But, I thought it "was fixin' to".
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Post# 3817-8/15/2001-05:24 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: A little Texas humor to pass the time and heat
MESSAGE: Scott, that's not "fun" or funny, a lot of it has some reality to it.
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Post# 3818-8/15/2001-05:31 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Appnut's appliances (Maytag washer)
MESSAGE: Mike, Isn't it amazing what a difference it makes? I figured there had to be a way to get a Maytag to move clothes. Swapping agitators, speeding up the action, all of these in various combinations really make a difference. Even my little A102 with the slower helical drive and the black Bakelite Gyrator that would not even take everything under in the 2 minute rinse has stuff submerged and moving with a Power Fin and a 50 cycle pulley kit. Have fun! Tom
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Post# 3819-8/15/2001-05:34 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Appnut's appliances (Maytag washer)
MESSAGE: Mike, congratulations on all the "activities" and best wishes for the romance. Tom
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Post# 3820-8/15/2001-07:19 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: A couple of Sears/Whirlpool questions for Leslie (KA - Hobart design washability?)
MESSAGE: Tom, there's more to that KD24 story.....detergent dispenser gasket. I'll fill in at the convention. By the way, thanks for the advice on the 'Fruit-fresh' for cleaning up mineral deposits. Take care....Leslie
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Post# 3821-8/15/2001-07:33 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: A couple of Sears/Whirlpool questions for Leslie (KA - Hobart design washability?)
MESSAGE: Leslie, Fruit Fresh is also used to demineralize the ice machines when the mineral buildup interferes with the slab releasing. When do you get in to Minnie? See you soon. Tom
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Post# 3822-8/15/2001-08:04 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: A couple of Sears/Whirlpool questions for Leslie (KA - Hobart design washability?)
MESSAGE: Great info on the ice-machine cleaner. I don't have the flight info handy, but I think it should be early afternoon Friday. I'm leaving from Tampa early.....rock'in & roll'in through our fabulous rush hour traffic.....it'll be great to feel those cool temps in Minneapolis!
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Post# 3823-8/15/2001-08:30 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: A couple of Sears/Whirlpool questions for Leslie (KA - Hobart design washability?)
MESSAGE: Leslie, have a great trip! TT
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Post# 3824-8/15/2001-08:56 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Hello Convention Goers
MESSAGE: While I know its not a great idea to post your phone number into cyberspace, I wanted to make it available to anyone who might need to contact me.
(612) 729-7561
Two Days to GO!
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Post# 3825-8/15/2001-09:33 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Hello Convention Goers (phone number)
MESSAGE: I saw this number written on the side of a Frigidaire appliance once. No message like "for a good washing call" or "if you find me call," just this number and here it is again. Hmmmmm
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Post# 3826-8/15/2001-10:08 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: A little Texas humor to pass the time and heat
MESSAGE: But I did intend for the post to be both reality and fun.
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Post# 3827-8/15/2001-10:19 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: A little Texas humor to pass the time and heat
MESSAGE: Glenn, of course you & I know it's both funny & reality, but to the unenlightened of the ways of "Texan", it might seem as peculiar as anything else on this earth that doesn't make sense.
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Post# 3828-8/15/2001-12:10 ||| Janet Planet (Northridge, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Hello Convention Goers (I've seen it before-)
MESSAGE: in the ladies restroom at the laundramat: "If you want a good tumble call Unimatic at...."
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Post# 3829-8/15/2001-12:36 ||| miss jet cone (Hopkins ,MN)
SUBJECT: he3t washer info
MESSAGE:
HI BOb,
I will take along the vidio that comes with
the washer as well. so every one can see it
in more detail.
see ya karen !
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Post# 3830-8/15/2001-15:43 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: WC58 Frigidaire Dryer on Ebay
MESSAGE: I don't know if anyone lives near this (Buffalo NY) or is interested, but this WC58 Frigidaire dryer is for sale on Ebay. There is no picture but it says it works and looks showroom new. He said it was a 1956 but with that model number I'm guessing it is a '58.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1265065211
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Post# 3831-8/15/2001-19:30 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT: WARNING! VIRUS
MESSAGE: To those of us who visit "that home site" My computer caught a nasty virus. The e.mail I received said from Andy (I dont remember the last name) And it also said here is the info you asked for thank you. I kept getting returned e.mails from people I never sent e.mails to. Some of the address I recocnized from "that home site" so thats how I figured out where it came from. The virus is called w32/sir cam @ mm . I'm still trying to get the puter back on its feet.
OPOBF/SD
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Post# 3832-8/15/2001-21:12 ||| jaxcubb (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: WARNING! VIRUS
MESSAGE: Go to the link I've posted, and you can obtain the SirCam removal Tool. Good Luck!
Mike
LINK: http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.sircam.worm@mm.removal.tool.html
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Post# 3833-8/15/2001-21:22 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: WARNING! VIRUS
MESSAGE: There have been a number of viruses making the rounds in recent weeks. W32.Sircam.Worm@mm, W32.Magistr.24876@mm, and W95.Hybris.Gen and CodeRedII are a few of the more common ones.
For specific information on Sircam, check the link I have attached.
I cannot emphasize enough that EVERYONE should have a reliable antivirus program on their computer, and KEEP IT UPDATED REGULARLY.
And PLEASE, use caution when opening email attachments. If it is something you aren't expecting, from someone you don't know, or a file that you don't recognize, it is NOT worth the risk of infecting your system.
LINK: http://symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.sircam.worm@mm.html
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Post# 3834-8/15/2001-22:11 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Jetcone arrives in Minneapolis to check Uni's basement with white gloves
MESSAGE: Uni: And did it pass?
Jetcone: It sure did!
Uni: YAY
Jetcone: Can't wait to see all you washer heads on Friday night!
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Post# 3835-8/15/2001-00:59 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: WARNING! VIRUS (additional important info)
MESSAGE: I was going to wait until after the convention to post this, so as not to rain on the parade of everyone getting ready and making final plans.
However, the recent virus postings have made me re-think that. Along with a very good and updated virus protection program, I believe everyone should have a firewall in place. The attached link is a long read, but very worthwhile. If you want to get to the heart of the article, just skip to the end. If you have a firewall, this site can also test its security.
Todd
(Remember, you aren't paranoid if they are out to get you.)
LINK: http://grc.com/dos/grcdos.htm
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Post# 3836-8/16/2001-05:37 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Jetcone arrives in Minneapolis to check Uni's basement with white gloves
MESSAGE: Can't wait to meet you Jon Charles either.
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Post# 3837-8/16/2001-12:23 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: WARNING! VIRUS (Firewall)
MESSAGE: I use Zome Alarm as my firewall and I'm happy with it. Whenever a new program tries to access the net, zone alarm pops up and asks to give it permission. Also, ZA stealths your pc, making it invisible on the internet. The free version works fine but the Pro version has more features to it.
LINK: http://www.zonelabs.com
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Post# 3838-8/16/2001-16:06 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT: Well......
MESSAGE: I guess I'll just take a long nap until the convention is over....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Post# 3839-8/16/2001-17:09 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: Internationale Conventionale (5 hours nearer)
MESSAGE: Hi all
Sorry I`ve no time to reply to e-mails, ran out of time, bags are packed(11.00pm) off to kip before the flight... AND I`m five hours nearer the convention (till I get off the plane Ha! Ha!)
Look forward to meeting you all and remembering everyone not there with us in body, but certainly in spirit!!
Cheers Mike
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Post# 3840-8/16/2001-17:11 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Well......
MESSAGE: Jason, there's a famous truck stop/restop near here called Carl's Corner, so I imagine that would be very appropriate LOL.
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Post# 3841-8/16/2001-17:41 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Internationale Conventionale (5 hours nearer)
MESSAGE: Have a safe trip Mike! See you tomorrow! What is "kip"?
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Post# 3842-8/16/2001-22:56 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Internationale Conventionale (5 hours nearer)
MESSAGE: Scott Kip is to sleep!!!
Hey everybody I just realized the most omportant linguistic difference between me and you. You guys have appliances but in Aus we have WHITEGOODS!
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Post# 3843-8/16/2001-00:19 ||| mooney6au (Sydney, Australia)
SUBJECT: Enjoy the convention
MESSAGE: To all of those lucky enough to attend the Convention and to those who have put in all of the hard work - Robert and Scott especially but not forgetting the others - I wish you all have a fabulous time watching the suds whirl and twirl and that it is a great social event too. It's an honour to be part of such a passionate group of men and women.
Happy sudsing!!
Greg from Down Under
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Post# 3844-8/17/2001-07:24 ||| Wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: Envy in South Carolina LOL
MESSAGE: The higher powers have put hurdles in my way or I would have jumped a plane this morning.
Enjoy the appliances, comraderie, and all around good time that I am sure will be had by all
Will do a midnight wash in my 1-18 and raise a glass to yall attending the festiveties
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Post# 3845-8/17/2001-09:47 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Internationale Conventionale (5 hours nearer)
MESSAGE: Salespeople here call them white goods. They call tvs and stereos and things brown goods. Wish you could be here, maybe another time we will meet! Scott
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Post# 3846-8/17/2001-09:47 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Enjoy the convention
MESSAGE: Thank you for the kind wishes! We will be thinking of you and you will be here in spirit. Hope we will all be able to meet you and arrohhh someday too! Scott
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Post# 3847-8/17/2001-09:48 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Envy in South Carolina LOL
MESSAGE: thanks! Hope we can catch you at a future meeting!
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Post# 3848-8/17/2001-13:03 ||| rapidry1000 (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: RE: Enjoy the convention (Have A Great Time)
MESSAGE: To Everybody at the Convention
Have a great time. I will be there in spirit and will be thinking about all the fun you will have. Looking forward to hearing about and seeing all the activities planned.
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Post# 3849-8/17/2001-17:17 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Enjoy the convention
MESSAGE: I would also like to say how much I would have loved to have been there but my circumstances prevented it. I am thinking of you all. I hope to see lots of pictures!!
Eddy
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Post# 3850-8/17/2001-21:18 ||| Lenny (Northeastern Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT: Old Whirlpool belt-drive.
MESSAGE: Im just curious to see how others feel about the major changes Whirlpool made in the late 80's when they totally re-engineered their washers and went to direct drive. I feel the new direct drive lacks 'substance' and doesnt compare to the belt drive with its slower, longer agitation stroke. Any feedback?
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Post# 3851-8/17/2001-21:42 ||| syndets2000 (Nanjemoy, Md)
SUBJECT: new boots 4 old slant fronts
MESSAGE: I was playing with my L-102, & found that the new style (gray)
boot fit with a small alteration-I simply trimed 1/2 inch (the thick portion that clamps onto the metal lip on the newer style outer tubs) from the new boot, wrapped it around the inner lip of the outer tub, & clamped it in place with the old garter ring. Thisleaves enough slack for the boot to flex when
the tub sags , or vibrates in spin. For a test, I washed washed
a couple of old moving blankets. the boot is rather an ugly color, though....
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Post# 3852-8/18/2001-08:54 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Old Whirlpool belt-drive. (belt-drive vs. direct drive)
MESSAGE: I like the belt drive a little better. It has a gentle wash action than the direct drive unit. It's also heavier so it's more stable during spin cycle. The direct drive is more reliable because of fewer parts and easier to fix, but they tend to vibrate more because they're lighter.
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Post# 3853-8/18/2001-08:56 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Gee, it's quiet here ;-)
MESSAGE: I want to see pictures of the event! I wish I was there, I would've made a video of the classic washers.
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Post# 3854-8/18/2001-10:53 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Gee, it's quiet here ;-) (Convention Update)
MESSAGE: Last report (from this morning) everything is going just fine. No major problems, except poor Appnut is stuck in the airport due to bad weather with no clean clothes! I hate being stuck in the airport period, but to have no clean clothes is even worse. He was not at the convention as of 10am EST.
Jason
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Post# 3855-8/18/2001-17:58 ||| spiralator60 (Los Angeles, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Enjoy the convention (Best regards to all!)
MESSAGE: I hope that everyone at the convention is having a wonderful time! I wish I could be there to meet everyone, but it was just not possible to take the time off to make the trip. Hopefully, next convention. Please take lots of pictures to share with those of us who couldn't be there.
Darryl
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Post# 3856-8/18/2001-18:11 ||| spiralator60 (Los Angeles, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi folks! (Welcome fellow Californian!)
MESSAGE: Hi Janet! Welcome to the club. Sorry to take so long in greeting you. I'm just over the hill to the south. Thanks for sharing your appliance memories - my grandparents once owned both an International Harvester refigerator and chest freezer. What I remember most about the refrigerator was that it had a bottle opener in the metal plate for the door latch inside of the unit. Was this so for your refrigerator?
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Post# 3857-8/18/2001-18:31 ||| spiralator60 (Los Angeles, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Gee, it's quiet here ;-) (It sure is)
MESSAGE: I know what you mean. I'm tempted to go off to Sears at one of the local malls, just see if they have even heard of the new front loading machines that they will be carrying (soon). Are you still thinking of getting the Fisher and Paykel washer? If so, what are stores charging for them in the New Orleans area? I've only seen a few places where they are being offered in the Los Angeles area. One store that I stopped by in Santa Monica had only one model available, and this was for about $600, about four months ago. So far, this brand has not been advertised in the local papers or on television. Is this also the case where you are?
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Post# 3858-8/18/2001-18:50 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: new boots 4 old slant fronts
MESSAGE: Glad to hear that worked. I put one in my LB-6 back in '96, it's still going strong and that's with continous use too. It's creativety and stuborness that keeps these babies alive!
Todd
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Post# 3859-8/18/2001-00:29 ||| Janet Planet (Northridge, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Hi folks! (International Harvester refrigerator (long post))
MESSAGE: spiralator60 (Darryl): thanks for the welcome.
Re the International Harvester refrigerator: I can't remember if we had the bottle opener feature or not. I had the IH from 1969 to 1972. You know, it may have had the opener, but I can't remember. I always thought the idea of an International Harvester refrigerator was kind of funny, since that name is more commonly associated with tractors.
I do know that in 1972 I replaced it with a brand-new Kenmore, ($199 delivered) because I needed a refrigerator with a real freezer after Baby-Boy Planet popped out.
You live on the West side? I live in the Valley but I fight the 405 over the hill five days a week to work in the Brentwood area. Lucky me!
I'm hoping that when the weather cools off to something under 900°, I'll feel like going out and taking some pictures. I haven't been there in a few years, but there was a good appliance repair/used appliance store on Magnolia Ave in Burbank that had some old appliances (stoves & washers) on display. If it's still there, maybe I'll go and take some pictures. There's another used appliance store over on Sherman Way near Reseda Blvd that I might check out as well.
Stay cool.
Janet Planet
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Post# 3860-8/19/2001-12:48 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Gee, it's quiet here ;-) (My own wash-in)
MESSAGE: Well, in honor of the CA wash-in. I think I'll give Whirly and GE their weekly workout. Mount St. Laundry has grown again and it's time to do something about it.
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Post# 3861-8/19/2001-19:02 ||| Janet Planet (Northridge, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Gee, it's quiet here ;-) (Mount St. Laundry)
MESSAGE: jasonl: I am also participating in the wash-in in support of the convention (and besides, my hubby needs clean uniforms). My matching GE washer and dryer (? circa late 1980's?) are getting a work-out today. I have a mini-Mt. St. Laundry because I've been under the weather for about a week, I drove to Santa Barbara for the day yesterday, and had not done any laundry for a while. Three loads washed, dried, folded and hung so far today. I've also got a sofa slipcover to wash, but I think that will have to go to the big front-loader at the laundramat next week.
-Janet Planet
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Post# 3862-8/19/2001-22:41 ||| austinado16 (San Luis Obispo, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Gee, it's quiet here ;-) (Mount St. Laundry)
MESSAGE: We've also joined the ranks of the southern California wash-in as the Westy front loaders are both humming away!
Todd
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Post# 3863-8/19/2001-01:49 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: Isnt this cute!
MESSAGE: I found this on ebay. I wish I cvould put a bid on it. Its so cute!
maybe Uni would be interested in Giving his Maytag AMP a little companion!!
Looking forward to seeing all the convention pics!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1179897674
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Post# 3864-8/20/2001-06:28 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: Fantastic Time
MESSAGE: Hi to everyone. My trip back to Illinois went great. Our first convention was beyond belief. We had a fantastic time. A huge thank-you to Robert, Scott, and others for all their work in making this such a special event. It was an honor to meet so many of you for the first time. I had such a great time. Thanks again guys for everything. Terry
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Post# 3865-8/20/2001-09:31 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Fantastic Time
MESSAGE: Terry, you've said it all. Yes, it truly was an honor! What a wonderful time. I can't thank everyone enough. What a 'super' group. Best regards to all....Leslie
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Post# 3866-8/20/2001-10:31 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Fantastic Time
MESSAGE: I'll second that emotion. Jim and I had a great time. Thank you Robert for opening your home to us.
It was wonderful to meet everyone. I think we all felt instantly comfortable with one another.
Special thanks to John and Scott for helping us get around town. ... by the way, all the food and desserts served were excellent. Loved those chocolate cookies!
Sorry if we missed saying goodbye to anyone, we tried to catch everybody.
I'm only wish we had more time to stay and get to know each other better. I hope we can do something like this again soon. Perhaps the group can visit the Washington D.C. area next time and see the future museum/warehouse.
Ken Yourist
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Post# 3867-8/20/2001-11:42 ||| geodon2000 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Fantastic Time
MESSAGE: i wholeheartedly concur...
thanks to robert and scott for your "southern" hospitality...it's as though jeff and i were residents of edina...
and jeff admitted he had a blast...pretty good for a guy who wouldn't know a washer from a dryer, except for the lid/door locations...
if any of you ever come to/through atlanta, let me know...otherwise, i'll look forward to seeing you again next year...
geodon
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Post# 3868-8/20/2001-15:29 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Isnt this cute!
MESSAGE: Those are cute! I have one, and Robert and a few others may as well. Scott
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Post# 3869-8/20/2001-15:29 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Isnt this cute!
MESSAGE: Those are cute! I have one, and Robert and a few others may as well. Scott
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Post# 3870-8/20/2001-15:38 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Fantastic Time
MESSAGE: Oops, sorry for the double post below. I just said farewell to the last of our group this morning after a nice day of touring the downtown Minneapolis area and having lunch.
I had such a wonderful time this weekend, and I declare our convention a rousing success! Thank you Robert, Jon and everyone for all your hard work and efforts in making this possible, and I am very pleased that I was able to help in small part with the baking and some coordinating of restaurants and such, which I'm really happy everyone enjoyed!
It was wonderful to meet everyone I met for the first time and to be able to bond with the folks I've been in touch with by email, club and phone before, and to see those people again whom I have met before.
Thank you one and all for coming and making it a fun weekend! I'm sure there will be pictures popping up all over in the next week or so, and I look forward to being in contact with and seeing everyone again in the future!
Scott
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Post# 3871-8/20/2001-18:53 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: Convention Thrills
MESSAGE: Hello America and all the ships at sea. We are winding down things and Jon Charles is frying chicken like he was a relative of the colonel. Poor Robert's kitchen! The 1954 compact 30 will be sealed under a protective coating of oil. There are 2 electric skilllets and one Farberware range-top skillet popping, snapping, sizzling and clucking away. Corn on the cob and tomato with basil salad will complete the meal. We ate lunch at Peter's Grill today and sat where Bill Clinton ate when he visited in 95. A green apple pie from there will be dessert. Jeans from the bar on Sunday night were washed in the Duomatic this afternoon and are drying in the little gas Bendix dryer. John L took Mike (Chestermikeuk) and Glenn (Dadoes)to the airport and went to his family's. We had such a great weekend. It is hard to believe that all the anticipated activities are over. It was so great to meet the people behind the names. Such a great bunch of folks. And another couple of Sarasota connections discovered also!!!
We spent Friday at Oronoco, a small town that gives all of itself over to 2500 dealers for this weekend flea market. Like the German word for constipation, all-farten-mit-no-poopen, this was a lotta walking with no buying. There was so much space taken up with UGLY OLD oak furniture! We did see a Maytag Wringer washer and spoke to a lady who was looking at it who was a member of the Maytag Collector's club. I told her I liked the web site. We stopped in Red Wing on the way home and went to a thrift store and a big old building that was two floors of antiques and one floor of flea market stuff. Downstairs there was a big concrete pipe upright in the floor with a sign saying that when the builders were building the building, they discovered this natural spring and the water was used for years to cool refrigeration and air conditioning equipment. Now it just flows across a bit of floor where 4 gold fish live in a depression and then it goes down a drain. The water was nice and cool, but not cold. We came home to join the wash in. Everyone should make a very serious effort to get to one of these gatherings. I was in a used book store on Hennepin Ave. this afternoon while Jon and Robert shopped. I spotted a quote on the wall. Joan Didion, the author was saying something about how hard it is to share your dreams with those who are not interested in them. This wonderful club makes it possible for us to share our dreams with those who not only are interested in them but also share them. In the immortal word of our web master YAY!! Tom
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Post# 3872-8/20/2001-19:48 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: I'm home!!
MESSAGE: I just wanted to let EVERYONE know that I returned home safe & sound, WITHOUT ONE INCIDENT!!! I had an indescribably ecstatic time. WASH ON BOYS!!!!
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Post# 3873-8/20/2001-20:00 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: I have added a link to the links page
MESSAGE: I added, for convenience, the link to my pics of my appliances, mega-laundry day, & dishwasher loads pics I took earlier this year. Bob
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Post# 3874-8/20/2001-20:20 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm home!!
MESSAGE: Oh good, thanks for checking in Bob! Glad the trip home went well, and I'm SO glad you joined us this weekend, I know you had a wonderful time as we all did and it was so GREAT to meet you! Scott
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Post# 3875-8/20/2001-21:41 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm home!!
MESSAGE: I'm glad you made it home safe and happy to hear you had a wonderful time.
Jason
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Post# 3876-8/20/2001-21:42 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention Thrills
MESSAGE: I'll be at the next one Tom. hehe
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Post# 3877-8/20/2001-21:50 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention Thrills
MESSAGE: Hi sweetie, we'll hold you to it. You will have a lot of fun!
QEOM
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Post# 3878-8/20/2001-21:56 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention Thrills (So true Tom)
MESSAGE: Hi all, I seem to have the post convention blues today. We had such a great time and I had looked forward to it for so long...Well I am already looking forward to the next one. It is so true what the quote said Tom. You will all never know how much it meant to me to be able to be with those who share the same passion. Just sorry that I missed the fun on Sunday at Scott's and then your outing today. Jon I bet that Chicken was great. Take care guys!! Terry
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Post# 3879-8/20/2001-22:12 ||| syndets2000 (Nanjemoy, Md)
SUBJECT: Laundromat Horror story
MESSAGE: I broke one of those GIANT Wascomat(?) things Saturday...a triple loader? I think....what a mess.......
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Post# 3880-8/20/2001-22:58 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: Czechin' in . . .
MESSAGE: DADoES is home, and had a WONDERFUL time meeting all the guys and gals, and touching and hearing (elbow-deep in a Unimatic, Pulsamatic, and Automagic, WHOOOHOOO!) Robert's FABULOUS collection.
A few of my pictures didn't turn out too well due to minor lighting and/or focus issues, but there should be enough for a contribution to the archives. I'm looking forward to seeing the pics from the rest of the event's photogs.
A great big THANKS to everybody for making the convention a success, and a special thanks to Scott for meeting me at the airport upon arrival, to John for delivering me there for departure, and to John, Leslie, Scott, and Steve for schlepping me around Minne.
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Post# 3881-8/20/2001-23:38 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention Thrills
MESSAGE: Tom, thank you so much for your usual eloquent words. That's one of your gifts and I love both sides of it. I'm green apply pie envy, dinner sounded absolutely delicious. I too enjoyed meeting so many of you. I still regret I lost that additional time due to flight problems. It meant less time to be with all of y'all and to get to know y'all better. Maybe I'll win the lottery & can come visit people some day. I felt a warm special bond with each & every one of you. I'm already feeling kinda "homesick" and remote. But like I said, now, when I read your posts I can hear your voice & see your face. For me, that's important and means a lot. Bob
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Post# 3882-8/20/2001-23:40 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention Thrills (Sharing Your Dreams)
MESSAGE: While I was washing clothes tonight,(the first time I've come home from Minneapolis with laundry!) I was thinking how wonderful it was to be able to meet and spend time with everyone that was there. I had a wonderful time, made wonderful new friends, and enjoyed every minute of the time we all spent together - even when we got lost on the way to dinner! Such a great group of people sharing a common love of appliances was truly a memorable experience.
I started working on posting pictures tonight, along with spending time with Skyler, mounds of bedding and laundry, chasing "digger" from the roses and on and on. I'll try to get them up tomorrow night, Yahoo is being very weird so it's taking forever!
A great big thank you to Robert for opening your home and sharing your collection with us and for all your work on the web site, the reason most of us are "here." You have deeply touched many lives with your generosity. Greg
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Post# 3883-8/20/2001-23:41 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm home!!
MESSAGE: Thanks Jason, but I hafta admit, with everyone there, you & Carl were in the back of my mind & I still missed not having y'all there. Just gives me another 2 people to look forward to meet in person some day. Give Brownie a hug & pat for me! Bob
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Post# 3884-8/20/2001-23:44 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention Thrills (So true Tom)
MESSAGE: I agree Terry. My "blues" , like in previous post, feel like homesickness for my family. It's wonderful we've discovered each other through the web, I just hate having to be so remote from everyone. Y'all in the more northern states have more opportunity to get together. I wish I had the same capability. So fulfilling for me. Bob
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Post# 3885-8/20/2001-00:15 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Convention Pictures
MESSAGE: Here are some of the pics that I took during the weekend - I always wish I'd taken more, but will look forward to everyone else's too!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/thesheerlook/vwp?.dir=/Convention+2001+Photos&.src=ph&.dnm=The+Speed+Queen+Arrives.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/thesheerlook/lst%3f%26.dir=/Convention%2b2001%2bPhotos%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 3886-8/21/2001-07:39 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention Pictures
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg for the great pics, particularly the Fri. night event I had to miss. I know it wasn't anyones fault, but it still hurts I missed THE opening events, but at least I can live it photographically.
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Post# 3887-8/21/2001-11:37 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: All of our Convention pics being/to be posted
MESSAGE: My suggestion would be that everyone post the link to their pics from The Convention in the "Members Links" area. Easy reference for us to return over & over again (just like a Unimatic's rollover) to relive this absolutely wonderful weekend. Bob
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Post# 3888-8/21/2001-16:09 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: Convention 2001
MESSAGE: Hi Everybody!
I'd like to echo the others' sentiments and say what a fantastic time I had at the convention. It was great to meet each and every one of you that attended! (And I hope to meet the rest of the club members at a future convention.) It will be even more fun to read posts now that I know some of the faces and personalities behind the words.
A special thanks to Robert for opening his house and sharing his collection. Scott for arranging meals and baking tasty treats. Jon for lugging us around and sharing the Pulsamatic. Greg for bringing his Bendix and Speed Queen with him and driving everyone everywhere. Tom for his fudge...and all the other Pillsbury doughboys and taxi drivers!
Gary and I had a great time and will treasure the fun memories of this special weekend. I'll be posting pictures soon!
Rich
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Post# 3889-8/21/2001-18:19 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: YAY -- The convention was a success!
MESSAGE: We’ll the last of the convention goer’s have gone home this morning and a calm has fallen over Minneapolis once again.
I wanted to thank everyone who came from near and far to our first big convention, it was so wonderful meeting all of you and putting a face and personality to all those cybernames. We were all great friends before the convention and now we’ve really cemented those friendships together forever. I feel like we all part of a very special family.
I’ve posted some of Jetcone’s and My better pictures in the following linked album. Now I’m going to sleep for the next 30 hours!
Oh and by the way everyone, just because the convention is over, doesn’t mean the fun is over as soon we can work together re-vamp our web site with new fun things and features! Stay tuned...
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/convention01/lst?&.dir=/Jetcone+%26+Uni%27s+Convention+Photos+Part+1&.src=ph&.begin=9999&.view=t&.order=&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/convention01/lst%3f%26.dir=/Jetcone%2b%2526%2bUni%2527s%2bConvention%2bPhotos%2bPart%2b1%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 3890-8/21/2001-18:51 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention 2001 (addendum)
MESSAGE: Oh...and how could I have neglected to mention a big special thank you to Jon Jetcone for the wonderful convention shirts!! And the Whirlpool Calypso wash plate toys! What fun!
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Post# 3891-8/21/2001-19:21 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: YAY -- The convention was a success!
MESSAGE: Robert, I couldn't agree more!!! And THANK YOU THANK YOU!!! FOR EVERYTHING YOU & JON & SCOTT did. Yes, I felt a special bond with several people, it's now cemented even more, and we are all part of a very special family in MANY respects. For me, I felt like I was in a very special cocoon on at least two levels, ones which you know so badly needed. I've come along way in the last month and that helped me prepare even moreso for the convention. I look forward to the day in which all of us who want a Frigidaire (dig up more Unimatics as you said) will be able to have one. This weekend confirmed the still special place in my heart I've had for Pulsating since age 4. Can you believe this?, I'd even forgoe a modern energy efficient front loader for a 3-ringer. My load was "full" right up to the over-flow holes at the top all around the tub and turnover was just as expected. And not ONE snag on my 4 knit/polo shirts either (but one would expect that). Bob
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Post# 3892-8/21/2001-19:22 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention 2001 (addendum)
MESSAGE: Oops, I missed the Calypso wash plate toys. Must have been one of those Friday evening events I unfortunately had to miss. I never saw them around. Oh well.
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Post# 3893-8/21/2001-19:44 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: YAY -- The convention was a success!
MESSAGE: Robert, you've spoken so eloquently. Thanks so much to you and Scott again for sharing your talents, hospitality and time with us. The photos are wonderful......we'll be able to re-live the memories. I'm back to the regular routine for the 2nd day now; and I can barely concentrate. My thoughts just wander off to 'washermania' and estate saleing! What a fabulous problem. Such a 'GREAT' group.......take care....Leslie
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Post# 3894-8/21/2001-20:02 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: YAY -- The convention was a success! (Convention)
MESSAGE: To Robert and all - I am sorry I was not able to attend - I did
spend the weekend thinking about you guys. I hope for sure next year. But I am in the middle of renovating my kitchen. About 2/3 done. So doing that was some consolution for not being able to attend. I hope 1 day we will all meet.
Jet Action to all
Peter
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Post# 3895-8/21/2001-01:24 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: YAY -- The convention was a success!
MESSAGE: Great pictures Greg and Robert! I have placed links to both these albums in the links section as well for easy future reference!
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Post# 3896-8/21/2001-01:43 ||| miss jet cone (Hopkins ,MN)
SUBJECT: Our convention
MESSAGE:
HI guy's
We wanted to thank robert for all the fun
that we had at his washer party along with the
fun at scotts place as well.thanks jon for the
cool shirt that we all loved plus the neat
party favors and delicious party food !! it
was nice to meet and party with every one at
the same time. hope to see you all soon!
thanks again to all
love karen and David & troy !!
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Post# 3897-8/21/2001-01:59 ||| miss jet cone (Hopkins ,MN)
SUBJECT: the party pictures
MESSAGE:
Robert,
I love the picture of me holding that jetcone I should
have had a silver crown on my head! NOT ! We should
hide this one of me it scares me to death it make
me look like I should get off the see food diet
Ha! Ha!
miss jetcone
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Post# 3898-8/22/2001-02:03 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: YAY -- The convention was a success!
MESSAGE: Leslie, I've been doing the same thing ... sitting at my desk, supposed to be catching up on work, and I drift off thinking about this machine or that one, or something particularly fun that somebody said or did. I have Internet access at home and both jobs, and I'm constantly checking the message board and looking at the pictures! (I'm in more of the pictures than I expected to be -- eeeeekkk!!!!)
I have 212 pictures and video clips to sort through and pick out the best ones to post.
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Post# 3899-8/22/2001-07:47 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: YAY -- The convention was a success!
MESSAGE: Can't wait to see some of your pictures and clips, Glenn. I'll bet you got a lot of good action shots of the machines. How much memory do you have in your camera?
Was nice to have met you - wish we could have another day to get to talk with everyone a little more, but there's always next time!
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Post# 3900-8/22/2001-08:00 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: Happy Camper Returns
MESSAGE: Hi all
Just a quick line to say arrived home safely (for a rest!!!)and to say a big "Thank You" to you all for the hospitality at the convention....What a great bunch of people you are..
Will read the posts and view the pictures later, off to "Arm The Dyson" tomorrow morning!!!!
Cheers
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Post# 3901-8/22/2001-08:00 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: YAY -- The convention was a success!
MESSAGE: Leslie & Glenn, I can't agree more with both of you. I'm having a difficult time coming down from the high. I drift back to all that I was able to participate in. I still regret I missed Friday night, even though it was beyond my control. Glenn, yes you did turn up in lots of pics, not to worry. Personally & selfishly, I doubt I will show up in many. I just missed so much on Friday night. Oh well, I hope I can make it next year without incident. Already looking forward to getting back together. I still wish we weren't so spread out across the country. Bob
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Post# 3902-8/22/2001-08:31 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: Wonderful pictures
MESSAGE: I hate so much that I was not able to make the convention but thanks for the great shots off all the events. It looks like you people had too much fun
Philippe
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Post# 3903-8/22/2001-08:51 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Convention
MESSAGE: I have only one thing to say...
YAY!!!
Now, back to my real life... sigh!
Thanks, everyone, for a most terrific weekend...
-ph
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Post# 3904-8/22/2001-10:12 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Convention Pics
MESSAGE: Guys,
Please be sure to add a link to the "Member's Links" page to your convention photo albums!
-ph
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Post# 3905-8/22/2001-10:41 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: YAY -- The convention was a success! (Camera stuff)
MESSAGE: Greg, I have a 4 MB stick, a 16 MB, and a 64 MB stick. Video clips at full resolution and max time are more than 4 times larger than still shots, so I dropped back to 10 second clips instead of 15 seconds so as to not run out of room for still shots. I haven't viewed all the clips yet, but there should be some good ones.
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Post# 3906-8/22/2001-11:47 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention Pics
MESSAGE: Peter, I requested this be done yesterday after the first 2 went up. Bob
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Post# 3907-8/22/2001-12:12 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention Pics
MESSAGE: ...and I helped out Bob by placing links to Greg's and Robert/Jon's pics in the links section for future reference! I'm very happy to see everyone has made it home safe and sound! I better get started on my emails I have many to write! Scott
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Post# 3908-8/22/2001-21:43 ||| Lenny (Northeastern Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT: Curious about your convention
MESSAGE: Im brand new to this great 'vintage' site. I thoroughly enjoy all the pix of those marvelous old machines at work. Who sponsors this convention and how does one get invited to it?
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Post# 3909-8/22/2001-22:31 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Curious about your convention
MESSAGE: Lenny, WELCOME to the club. We'll probably have a get-together again next year, locale undetermined yet. This year, hosted by Unimatic1140, that was his basement.
Any club member is automatically invited for the next convention. It's part of the fun, finally getting to meet people you've talked with through postings & instant messaging on yahoo.
I looked at your profile. Interesting. By the way, did that 1960 Hamilton top load washer happen to have a window in the lid???
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Post# 3910-8/22/2001-23:29 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention Pictures
MESSAGE: Greg:
Your photo sense has recaptured the moment for me! I think Louis should have taken that MINK! It looks fabulous on you! And still there is yet ANOTHER picture of Peter sticking his arm in another machine!!
Tuesday Robert and I schlepped the all the Vacuums over to Mailboxes Etc. to send to Mike and to Boston.
Hello everyone got home safe and sound last nite after a 3 hour delay. Boston was shut down due to fog on the runway.
I had a fantastic time meeting everyone and sharing our wonderful hobby! YAY!
And Robert's was the best place to kick it all off! We finally got the grease off Roberts stove but the chicken was excellent, if i do say so myself!
Got my pix back today and will start scanning them in ASAP!
Just wanted to check in and say YAY!
jon & aloysius
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Post# 3911-8/22/2001-23:33 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention Pictures
MESSAGE: Awwww, no pictures of the chicken snackie, or of the grease smeared places other than just on the stove?
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Post# 3912-8/22/2001-23:33 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention Pictures
MESSAGE: Glad to hear you're finally safe home too--for Al's sake too.
Bob
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Post# 3913-8/22/2001-23:50 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention Pictures
MESSAGE: Glenn, Robert took many pix of my mess and is holding them hostage over my head!! He showed them ALL to me before I left! He even took macros--I could SLAP him!
jet
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Post# 3914-8/22/2001-23:51 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: Hettie Manuals
MESSAGE: Hey, Bob!
How are the manuals? What fun and interesting details have you gleaned from them?
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Post# 3915-8/22/2001-23:52 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention Pictures
MESSAGE: Thanks Bob! AL was very glad to sniff me! He just groaned with joy when we settled in for the night! A wagging tail is wonderful to come home too! Next time I am taking him to Minneapolis he will love it!
jon
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Post# 3916-8/22/2001-23:59 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention Pictures (Slappage and Close-Uppage)
MESSAGE: Speaking of slapping . . . I got a good whallop from Bob (he didn't wanna do it, but I INSISTED that I deserved it) when I accidentally stepped all over his Hettie manuals in the car on the way back from Sears. Teehehehe, all in good fun!
I really enjoy the macro feature of my camera. I have a couple macro pics of pizza -- don't ask why, 'cause I can't explain what triggered me to do that -- they look like an alien landscape. Also some snails and lizards and flowers.
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Post# 3917-8/22/2001-00:10 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention Pictures (Slappage and Close-Uppage)
MESSAGE: Glenn, what does the "macro" feature do? There is so much stuff on these cameras that I have never even tried, yet I get such great results when I do take pictures. Definitely want to learn more about it. Scott
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Post# 3918-8/23/2001-02:37 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: YAY -- The convention was a success! (Video Hits!)
MESSAGE: DADoEs, I want to see every one of your 212 clips!!!!
Pleaassee.
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Post# 3919-8/23/2001-05:01 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Hettie Manuals
MESSAGE: Glenn, I've read them over & over again. I practically sleep with them. Unfortunately, they don't have the actual cycle sequences. Each cycle does describe what tumble speed and std. spin speed is selected as well as with ATC, what water temp is used. Hot is 122 degrees. Extra hot is 150. Warm is 104. Cold is 77. Tap cold is what the tap temp is. Stain treatment option starts with warm & takes it to hot. Sanitary option is extra hot. But I wanna know how the soil level option changes impact wash time length as well as how many std. rinses there are. I've emailed you-know-who for any info assistance.
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Post# 3920-8/23/2001-05:04 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention Pictures
MESSAGE: And I can't wait to meet him either. {Although you're not so bad yourself LOL]. Will be a perplexing situation though, Al or washers. He looks so downright loveable and cuddly.
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Post# 3921-8/23/2001-07:47 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention Pictures
MESSAGE: You are welcome to bring Al to Omaha - Jack can teach him how to dig huge holes around all the yard!
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Post# 3922-8/23/2001-10:50 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hettie Manuals (Eyedropper of water to be safe)
MESSAGE: Maybe if Karen would be so kind, she could invite me over to take some pictures of her new Hettie in action.
Just to be safe, in case of a water main break in the Hopkins area, and the water gets shut off, I'll bring along an eyedropper filled with water so we can still fill the machine.
Karen???
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Post# 3923-8/23/2001-11:05 ||| Jetcone (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Hettie Manuals (HE SHOULD TALK about dabbed!!!!!)
MESSAGE: Karen:
Just slap him before I do. I guess he wasn't slapped enough when I was there! Oh and ask him about his "water saver shower" while you are at it!!!! The one that releases a water drop every 15 seconds!
anonymously "showered"-(if you can call it that) dabbed person in boston---------------
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Post# 3924-8/23/2001-11:11 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention Pictures (Slappage and Close-Uppage)
MESSAGE: Scott, the macro feature allows the camera to move in very close for extreme close-up shots of flowers, bugs, surface textures, etc. Find the focus mode button on your camera (check the manual if necessary), and one of the settings on that button will put it into macro mode. Mine indicates that setting by a flower icon on the display.
You may have already seen this lizard picture I took, but here's the link again.
LINK: http://users.wcnet.net/dadoes/lizard.jpg
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Post# 3925-8/23/2001-11:15 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention Pictures (Slappage and Close-Uppage)
MESSAGE: And here is one of the pizza pics, resized considerably smaller.
LINK: http://users.wcnet.net/dadoes/pizza.jpg
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Post# 3926-8/23/2001-11:15 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention Pictures (Slappage and Close-Uppage)
MESSAGE: And a snail.
LINK: http://users.wcnet.net/dadoes/snail-1.jpg
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Post# 3927-8/23/2001-11:16 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention Pictures (Slappage and Close-Uppage)
MESSAGE: And another snail shot.
LINK: http://users.wcnet.net/dadoes/snail-2.jpg
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Post# 3928-8/23/2001-11:38 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Hettie Manuals (HE SHOULD TALK about dabbed!!!!!)
MESSAGE: Jon, you may have been dabbed, but there were lots of us that showered you with love and affection. That counts more in my book, you stinker you!!! LOL I'll have to mail Karen one of my old stainless steel braces & she could slap him with that with the velcro exposed!!!!
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Post# 3929-8/23/2001-11:43 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Hettie Manuals (HE SHOULD TALK about dabbed!!!!!)
MESSAGE: Oh, Jon, I forgot to include the adjective Scoundral!!! too.
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Post# 3930-8/23/2001-12:37 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Convention Pictures (Slappage and Close-Uppage)
MESSAGE: Oh that, ok. I use that a lot. I knew it had to do with close ups, just didn't know it was called that. Thanks Glenn!
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Post# 3931-8/23/2001-13:30 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Hettie Manuals (Eyedropper v Doorwash)
MESSAGE: Failing that you could always catch the last few drops that are still on the door from the "Door-Wash" injector...
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Post# 3932-8/23/2001-13:43 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: Arming The Dyson!!!!
MESSAGE: Hi everyone
How`s everyone doing on the productivity front or are we all suffering from Post Dramatic Stress Convention Disorder!!!!
I came back to work to one deadline and now i`ve got three, cant concentrate, keep thinking of all whats happened, Of course I know what the answer is ..yep The Downtown Cocktail Bar Ha! Ha!..
Have finally got the pictures of me with my arm "Arming The Dyson" for those of us not finally confused.... When the group saw the Whirlmore F/L in Sears No2, I thought the drum was nearer the size of the Dyson, sooooohhh as we didnt have a tape measure and too knackered to walk the full length of the shop again to hardware, Jetcone came up with a brill suggestion.
I stick me hand in the Whirly and measure where the drum comes up to, then when appearing back in little old UK, visit our electrical shop and dooo the same thing, so scientific calulations are:
Whirlmore: Fingertip to Freckle Mark
Dyson: Fingertip to Freckle Mark + 1 inch
It is slightly bigger!!! now howas about that then....
Now I need Robert to leave me instructions on how and where to place the photos????
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 3933-8/23/2001-14:09 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hettie Manuals (HE SHOULD TALK about dabbed!!!!!)
MESSAGE: Don't worry Jon, I turned back on the water saver feature in my shower that you quietly turned off, that way I can continue to use my 28 gallon a load Unimatics without any guilt.
Of course you can continue to use your 90 gallon a shower showerhead Jon, since you have no reason to feel guilty since you just went out and purchased your new Hettie. By the when is Sears going to deliver your new set? Are your going to have to disconect the ABC-o-Matic to make room?
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Post# 3934-8/23/2001-14:12 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Arming The Dyson!!!! (Use Yahoo Photos, its easy)
MESSAGE: Hi Mike,
Have you signed up with Yahoo Photos yet? I know you have a yahoo email address, so all you have to do is sign up at Yahoo Photos, its easy. Use the following link to sign up...
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/
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Post# 3935-8/23/2001-14:31 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Hettie Manuals (Hettie-ness)
MESSAGE: Jon bought a Hettie pair? Kewl! Awaiting all the gorey details . . .
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Post# 3936-8/23/2001-14:34 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Hettie Manuals (Hettie-ness)
MESSAGE: Jon, congrats. I'm green with envey. Can't wait for your assessment of the pair. Do I hear of a want-ad being placed for the Neppies? Bob
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Post# 3937-8/23/2001-16:23 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: More convention photos
MESSAGE: Hi Guys
It sure was fun posting these pictures...I relived the whole weekend all over again. What a fantastic time and great group of people!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/golittlesport/lst?&.dir=/convention2001&.src=ph&.begin=9999&.view=t&.order=&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/golittlesport/lst%3f%26.dir=/convention2001%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 3938-8/23/2001-16:51 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: More convention photos
MESSAGE: Hey, Rich! Spiffy pics. I was waiting for those table shots at Nye's, they turned out great!
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Post# 3939-8/23/2001-16:54 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: More convention photos (fabulous fotos)
MESSAGE: Rich, wonderful pictures, very warm people shots! Thanks for sharing.
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Post# 3940-8/23/2001-16:55 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hettie Manuals (Hettie-ness)
MESSAGE: Something tells me I'm going to get a slap reached all the way from Boston.
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Post# 3941-8/23/2001-17:05 ||| rapidry1000 (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: RE: More convention photos
MESSAGE: great picture Rich. Thanks for identifying who everybody were in the pictures.
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Post# 3942-8/23/2001-17:55 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Hettie Manuals (Sell the Gyramatic!)
MESSAGE: Bob's right, you must really be running out of room fast back there - maybe next year instead of a convention at your house, you could have a vintage washer "Estate Sale" (private, of course!)
I'm sure the Hettie will be a stellar performer, but I'm still curious to see if it will twist, tangle and knot up the loads as well as the Westinghouse slant front does. Wouldn't have the same charm without the "ball 'o wash" upon completion of the cycle!
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Post# 3943-8/23/2001-17:59 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: More convention photos
MESSAGE: Great pictures!
I don't think that's my Speed Queen though, the one I brought had a filter!
Thanks for the fun - yet another shot of Peter arm deep in a washer! You won't have to wash that arm for a month, Peter!
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Post# 3944-8/23/2001-18:18 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: More convention photos
MESSAGE: Speaking of pictures and filters and etc Greg, I was poking around your album when I looked at your convention pictures. What happened to your 3 ring agitator? I notice you had the jetcone back in your rollermatic. Or were those taken before you even had the 3 ring?
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Post# 3945-8/23/2001-18:29 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: More convention photos
MESSAGE: It looks like everyone had a wonderful time. Sorry I missed it. Thanks for posting the picts, they really are great!
Jason
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Post# 3946-8/23/2001-18:32 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: More convention photos (Speed Queen)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg
I couldn't believe I didn't get a shot of the Speed Queen with the filter! I was mesmerized by it when it was washing with the filter. Such a cool sound. And splashing drama. (If only SQ had put a little crown or something on the top of the filter instead of that slip latch.)
I could have sworn I took a picture of it. Anyway, with so many vinatge machines going, and meeting everyone, and all the activities, I didn't know what I was or wasn't taking pictures of or what I was doing. I'm glad I got to see the SQ in action with its filter.
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Post# 3947-8/23/2001-18:34 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: More convention photos (missing Jason)
MESSAGE: We missed you Jason. (and the other absent memebers too)
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Post# 3948-8/23/2001-18:35 ||| Lola-d (western PA)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire Flaire range
MESSAGE: I just bought my first classic appliance today. I don't know anything about this attractive little number. Perhaps someone can give me the scoop. The range has a pull-up glass oven door, which is on top and a pull-out stainless 4-burner cooktop. There is a two-door storage cabinet underneath. I'd like to date this range, find out about replacement parts, if needed, and how to use all the knobs on the top. In other info would be appreciated. Gee, I never knew appliances could be sooo much fun!
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Post# 3949-8/23/2001-18:37 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: More convention photos
MESSAGE: It's still there - I would never change back to the Jet-Cone if the three ring is an option! Since I'm going to win the $300 million lottery Saturday night I should have time on Monday (I won't have to work) to try the three ring agitator in the 1-18. If by some long shot I don't win, I'll get to that someday - just for fun.
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Post# 3950-8/23/2001-18:41 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: More convention photos (Speed Queen)
MESSAGE: When Robert scoffed at the filter (it wasn't on the commercial SQ's he remembers) I told him it was standard equipment on the TOL machines that year and optional for others. My aunt's SQ had one (which I never saw running - ever) and our neighbors who had the stainless steel tub A49 had one too (that one I saw a number of times) - I love the sound too, and it's self cleaning!
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Post# 3951-8/23/2001-18:44 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Flaire range
MESSAGE: Hi Lola, my mom had one of these for many years. They are as you know very cool looking and design and they are very convenient to use. Do you have the 30 or 40" model? What color? Enjoy it! Scott
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Post# 3952-8/23/2001-18:47 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Flaire range
MESSAGE: Congrats on your aquisition and becoming a member of our club - welcome!
If you would give us the model number of your range, we'll be able to give you a date for it. Those were very popular in the early - mid sixties, I see them every now and then at sales. It sounds like you have the 30" model (one full width oven) but they also came in a 40" size with two ovens. I have a 1958 Custom Imperial Frigidaire range - before the Flair line (in charcoal grey - sigh) that I love and use all the time.
Enjoy the club - in the links section you'll find lots of photos of appliances and adventures of our members. Here's the link to the pics of my range. Greg
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Frigidaire&.src=ph&.dnm=In+The+Kitchen.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Frigidaire%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 3953-8/23/2001-18:56 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: More convention photos (self cleaning filter)
MESSAGE: self-cleaning??? I'm almost afraid to ask...but where did the lint go?
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Post# 3954-8/23/2001-19:37 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: More convention photos (Speed Queen)
MESSAGE: I have a couple video clips of the Speed Queen WITH the filter in action. I'm still getting oriented on catching up on four days of missed work at two jobs, but I WILL get the pictures and clips posted.
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Post# 3955-8/23/2001-19:41 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: More convention photos (self cleaning filter)
MESSAGE: LOL, Rich. The lint balls-up like a GE Filter-Flo, and then gets sloshed out during the overflow because the water action in the filter increases quite a bit at that point. Alas, Louis wanted to take his lint-ball as a souvenir, but it disappeared!
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Post# 3956-8/23/2001-22:39 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: More convention photos (self cleaning filter)
MESSAGE: And this my friends is where the lint in your pocket comes from!
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Post# 3957-8/23/2001-22:42 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Hettie Manuals (Sell the Gyramatic!)
MESSAGE: Well, Greg, you could wait until Jon gets his pair, or you can ask Miss Jetcone or ask the expert, Leslie.
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Post# 3958-8/23/2001-23:53 ||| miss jet cone (Hopkins ,MN)
SUBJECT: HE3t washer run with miss jet cone
MESSAGE:
HI all !
I would love you all to see my washer
in action. every one is more then welcome
to come over and party and wash laundry
with me.
love miss jet cone
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Post# 3959-8/23/2001-23:59 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: HE3t washer run with miss jet cone
MESSAGE: I am looking forward to doing just that! Scott =-)
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Post# 3960-8/23/2001-00:15 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: HE3t washer run with miss jet cone
MESSAGE: Hi Karen.
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Post# 3961-8/24/2001-02:32 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: Picture of the day
MESSAGE: Anyone ever owned or used one of these things? Were they good for anything, what situations would they be useful for?
Imagine the truck it arrived in!
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Post# 3962-8/24/2001-05:30 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Arming The Dyson!!!!
MESSAGE: Mike, arming is certainly a more polite term than you could have used, however, we did not think about diameter, only depth. Now those with access to each need to hold a tape across the wide part of the tub (we know the WP tapers somewhat). Glad you are back safe and almost sound. Tom
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Post# 3963-8/24/2001-05:36 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Hettie Manuals (HE SHOULD TALK about dabbed!!!!!)
MESSAGE: Robert, 28 gallons for a load, considering the amount you can wash AND rinse well with that amount of water puts the Unimatics right up there with modern machines and ahead of most with water extraction. A compromise I use with my shower is to only use the full force of the water while wetting down and rinsing off. While shampooing and scrubbing, the thing is turned to water saver which keeps a smaller amount of water flowing to keep the temp constant. I, too hate showers where you have to jump around to catch the water droplets. TT
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Post# 3964-8/24/2001-05:42 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Hettie Manuals (HE SHOULD TALK about dabbed!!!!!)
MESSAGE: Tom, my parents have done this since I was 10 or 11 and have carried on the "tradition" We have a valve at the shower head that shuts the water off. This is done during the same phases as you. Only turned on to wet down and rinse off. During the winter, and particularly during the 3 months my water consumption is used to calculate my average sewer rate for the year, I even collect the water in a buck that is run to get hot water all the way back to my bath from the water heater--the two most opposite points in my house. That water is used for a flush of the toilet. It's about 2.5 gallons. So, I saave about 6 gallons a day, at least, which adds up for me.
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Post# 3965-8/24/2001-05:48 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: More convention photos
MESSAGE: Rich, thanks for the pics. It was great to meet you and Gary. Glad that a thunderstorm was included so that Gary had something to enjoy. Best wishes, Tom
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Post# 3966-8/24/2001-05:58 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the day
MESSAGE: Arrroooooohhhh, modular designs like this were quite popular, from the late 1940s on. In essence, you could have a "complete kitchen" on just one wall. Really quite space efficient. But storage space, compared to our standards today, wasn't all that much. The enameled cabinets were easy to clean. Johnson Wax company made a product called Jubilee that was used to shine up these kinds of surfaces, if I remember correctly.
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Post# 3967-8/24/2001-06:06 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Flaire range
MESSAGE: Lola, welcome to the club. Are you any relation to the "whatever Lola wants, Lola gets" Lola? We have lists for you if you are. The Flair was made for a number of years. If your clock is round, it is earlier and if rectangular, later. The model number will give the information needed to date it. Have you noticed how the oven lights come down in the middle of the broil element in each oven? Be careful with that glass. It is special and almost irreplaceable. Have you figured how to release the oven doors so that they flop forward for cleaning? Hint: the two little pushbuttons near the top of the door frame. Does the speed heat element still work? If it does, I can give you a hint how to keep it working. I guess you did not have to move it yourself or we would have heard how damn heavy it is. Trust me on that. We have moved a few. Did the stove come with the Radiant Wall Broiler Pan? With those chrome liners and glass doors, you will need one. Be careful cleaning the chrome liners. Use nothing abrasive like my personality, only oven cleaner and cloths and elbow grease, unless they are already scratched up, but you probably won't know that until you clean them so be careful for now. Enjoy. Tom
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Post# 3968-8/24/2001-06:09 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: More convention photos (self-cleaning SQ lint filter)
MESSAGE: Rich, The lint went in the same direction as the whole convention, over the top. TT
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Post# 3969-8/24/2001-06:11 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: More convention photos (lint)
MESSAGE: Now can you explain belly-button lint?
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Post# 3970-8/24/2001-06:18 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Picture of the day
MESSAGE: ARRROOOHHH, do you mean the kitchen? It was modular, the stainless steel counter being the largest part next to the frig. We have a similar one by GE in yellow minus the period DW and the combination wsher-dryer. We have the DW and the combo, but they are from different places and are different colors. We took it out of a house and it all disassembles easily. Tom
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Post# 3971-8/24/2001-06:42 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Hettie Manuals (Sell the Gyramatic!)
MESSAGE: Something tells me this has gone in a very, very wrong direction...
-ph
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Post# 3972-8/24/2001-06:42 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: More convention photos
MESSAGE: Thanks, Rich! Some of the best pics yet!
-ph
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Post# 3973-8/24/2001-06:44 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: More convention photos
MESSAGE: Shoot! That was the same arm that shook Stevie Nicks' hand at a concert here recently! Now that it's been in all those machines, I'LL REALLY NEVER WASH IT AGAIN!
-ph
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Post# 3974-8/24/2001-07:11 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Arming The Dyson!!!! (more convention thoughts)
MESSAGE: Mike, You are right that the convention has had a very great effect on those of us who were able to be there and I don't just mean the exhaustion. We have seen the faces behind the names and to paraphrase Dr. Frankenstein, "THEY'RE ALIVE." I think it showed a lot of us that there is a whole other side of life that has been missing, or supressed for many. The machines in Robert's collection are great, but just being with so many others who share the obsession somehow validates a part of our psyches that the rest of the world is quick to dismiss (Asperger's syndrome, my ass). I heard variations on the term "like coming out" a few times during the weekend. It is like that and "strength in numbers" and "positive energy" and, in Martha's words, "a good thing." (can't stand her!) I was in Robert's basement Monday afternoon and it was a very empty place without the rest of the group, like a theater without actors and audience, albeit with a fully dressed stage. So we see that we are family and support group for each other. This is where we find it, because it is not just those with collections, but everyone who shares the dreams, the memories and the love. Thanks to everyone. YAY!
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Post# 3975-8/24/2001-07:37 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Hettie Manuals (Sell the Gyramatic!)
MESSAGE: Back on track then:
Did the service training videos get watched for the Hettie? I thought I heard they were at Robert's, but never actually saw them. The intro video that Karen brought was interesting. A good friend of mine wants to sell his 6 y.o. Amana set and buy these, I advised him to wait 6 months for the bugs to be worked out, if any.
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Post# 3976-8/24/2001-07:39 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: More convention photos
MESSAGE: So, after all your intimate experience, what machine was your favorite water mover?
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Post# 3977-8/24/2001-07:46 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Arming The Dyson!!!! (more convention thoughts)
MESSAGE: Well said Tom, I had a "let down" feeling driving home on Sunday and washing alone on Monday wasn't nearly as fun, but the laughs and memories will last forever.
The positive energy you spoke of really hit home and gives newfound strength to face those who would put us down.
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Post# 3978-8/24/2001-07:46 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: Home Safe and Sound
MESSAGE: Hi all,
A GREAT BIG THANK YOU to all that made the first convention a success. It took me more than 2 hours to catch up on the posts and pictures. It was great meeting all of you and seeing some old friends, too.
We departed Monday afternoon from Minneapolis and drove approximately 290 miles on Monday. Tuesday, made it to Kentucky. Got off the interstate fo a few hours hunting appliances (like we had room, ha ha). Found a few vintage appliances.
Wednesday, we got into Atlanta area about 4 pm. Went to Sam's Club (introducing Louis to 'bulk buying'). Called Peter and stopped by to see him and heat up a pizza.
Finnaly got home after 10 pm. No washing tonight!
The pictures 1-21 are from Minneapolis. Picture 22 begins the road trip.
Steve 1-18
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/svb14_30813/lst?.view=t&.dir=/Wash-In+2001
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Post# 3979-8/24/2001-07:50 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Whirlpool contest
MESSAGE: from an email from WP:
WIN $500,000 FROM WHIRLPOOL(R)
WHIRLPOOL(R) CALYPSO(TM) WASHER $500,000* CLEAN 'N GREEN SWEEPSTAKES!
whirlpool.com/promotions/clean_green1.htmls
Simply fill out the official entry form available at your nearest
Whirlpool dealer for a chance to win the $500,000 Grand Prize or
other prizes, such as a $3,000 home furnishings shopping spree and a
year's supply of Tide HE. But don't delay, the offer ends September
15, 2001. Good luck! Go to:
whirlpool.com/promotions/clean_green1.htmls
for more information.
*ANNUITY: No purchase necessary. Open to legal residents of the U.S.
21 years or older. Void where prohibited. Sweepstakes ends 9/15/01.
Odds of winning depend on number of entries received. Go to official
rules at:
whirlpool.com/promotions/clean_green3.htmls
for more information.
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Post# 3980-8/24/2001-07:51 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Detergent history
MESSAGE: oops... The last post and this are from an email from P&G, not WP...
THIS MONTH IN FABRIC CARE HISTORY
The chemistry of soap manufacturing changed drastically in 1916. World War I caused a shortage of fats in Germany for making soap, so the Germans developed the first synthetic detergent. This synthetic detergent was a non-soap washing and cleaning product. This discovery meant that detergents, unlike soap, would not combine with mineral salts in water to create the insoluble substance known as soap curd. This resulted in fewer problems with washing machines and cleaner clothes.
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Post# 3981-8/24/2001-07:53 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Home Safe and Sound
MESSAGE: Thanks for the great pics guys! Looks like you had a fun drive home and saw lots of the countryside - beautiful!
That Bendix was the first non-bolt down machine (about 1950) and the box on the top was the soap dispenser - very glad to see that, thanks for the details!
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Post# 3982-8/24/2001-07:56 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Detergent history
MESSAGE: I get that Tide newsletter too - did you get your free Tide Kick cupon last month? I think you posted the info for that one too.
John Lefever had books of entry forms for the contest at Robert's, but I think they got lost in the activity, never got to fill them out.
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Post# 3983-8/24/2001-07:59 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Home Safe and Sound
MESSAGE: Nice pictures! But, let's be perfectly clear about one thing: I *NEVER* served Bill Clinton. I mean, God only knows where that thing has been!
-ph
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Post# 3984-8/24/2001-08:07 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: More convention photos (Favorites)
MESSAGE: You know, you all will probably think me crazy, but I've got to say that if I had to have one of the weekend machines as my main machine, it'd be the Speed Queen. I've always been so completely satified every time I've used one, that that would just have to be THE one.
My actual favorite colectible machine, hands down, the Pulsamatic. Has anyone seen anything like that before? It was just too wild for words! All Robert's Frigidaires are very high on the list. I hope a Unimatic or Multimatic surfaces here soon.
-ph
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Post# 3985-8/24/2001-08:23 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: More convention photos (Favorites)
MESSAGE: Did you hear Robert talking about the high speed spin pulley for the SQ commercial machines? It would improve spin performance quite a bit. Hopefully one can still be found. I used that large capacity tub '79 model for a while and was always satisfied with the washing performance -- as long as it's not overloaded.
The pulsamatic was very interesting indeed, for me, it would be between that and the ABC. I simulated the ABC splashing with the 1-18. Overfill to the just above the top ring of the jet cone, remove the agitator cap and bleach dispenser cup and the splashing on the window lid is wonderful drama!
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Post# 3986-8/24/2001-08:49 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Home Safe and Sound
MESSAGE: Wonderful pics Steve, glad you have reached die heimat safely. Thanks for the neat appliance pics. That is the first Bendix with a soap dispenser I have ever seen. So one of those slide controls was for adding detergent to the soak and one for adding it to the wash? Was it a bolt down or a Gyromatic. Notice how they had already changed to name to automatic home washer from automatic home laundry. We have or did have a Frigidaire stove like that. Where is this neat place? Hello To all. Tom
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Post# 3987-8/24/2001-08:51 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Detergent history
MESSAGE: And this is the reason they were also known as syndets for synthetic detergents.
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Post# 3988-8/24/2001-08:52 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Home Safe and Sound (Serving Clinton)
MESSAGE: Dear, don't confuse serving with servicing.
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Post# 3989-8/24/2001-08:55 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: More convention photos (Blocked Views)
MESSAGE: Actually the only Speed Queen washers I had ever seen before were the coin-ops (until last spring at your house Greg). Generally I don't use filters that block the view of the wash, the only exception to that is the GE, but I usually remove it during spin.
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Post# 3990-8/24/2001-08:58 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: HE3t washer run with miss jet cone (YAY)
MESSAGE: Thanks Karen, I forgot to get your phone # on Sunday, but I will email you soon to arrange a time we can get together, maybe if I'm well behavied (its rare) you'll let me photograph your mixers and other collectables to share with the club?
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Post# 3991-8/24/2001-09:01 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hettie Manuals (I bet your right)
MESSAGE: True Tom, when you take in the TIC (Total Incremental Cost) to wash, rinse and dry an entire load, I bet our Unimatics would not fall very far behind the modern machines, when you consider, water, detergent, electricity, detergent, gas, maintenance, cost of machine, etc.
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Post# 3992-8/24/2001-09:04 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Home Safe and Sound
MESSAGE: We'll I glad you guys made it home safe and sound. Did you bring home the little Bendix Gyramatic? Thanks for the great pictures Steve.
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Post# 3993-8/24/2001-09:56 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Home Safe and Sound (Bendix)
MESSAGE: I realy love that Bendix with the big soap dispenser. To bad Bendix was another line that was discontinued. If they still made them today - their would probably be a real superior combo.
Peter
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Post# 3994-8/24/2001-13:55 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Happy Weekend
MESSAGE: May you all find the Unimatic of your dreams this weekend!
-ph
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Post# 3995-8/24/2001-14:48 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT: HE3t or Riding mower???
MESSAGE: I just got a nice letter from Sears today. 250 off a pair of HE3t set and one year money back warranty!! That mean I can buy it, play with it, see how it works compaired to the Calypso and maybe return it and go back to the Calypso after I am done playing. What do you think??? Or I could just get a riding mower......
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Post# 3996-8/24/2001-16:01 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: HE3t or Riding mower???
MESSAGE: Go for the marketing offer on the set. Besides, you already have a "riding' mower. (I'm bad).
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Post# 3997-8/24/2001-16:13 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Hettie Manuals
MESSAGE: HE3t 'factoids' to follow. Hi everyone.......still in withdrawl a week later. Too bad the clinic is 1100 miles away! Heading out to the Salvation army to see if they've got anything 'classic'. After driving by yesterday; the back lot looked pretty full-o-stuff. O.K. HE3t info: the basket has 5,382 holes!! The drain pump can pump to a height of 96", The spin speeds are 0, 300, 600, 800, 1000 & 1200 on the 3t, the 3 maxes out at 1000. The final spin will be at the highest speed chosen for up to 6 minutes on several cycles. Soil level modifier will permit reducing wash time in a given cycle or adding. Example, heavy-duty defaults to the max wash time; therefore you can reduce it, Normal defaults to the normal wash time so you may add or subtract and Express defaults to the minimum so you can add time with this one. As far as rinsing is concerned, there are 2 after rinses on all cycles except Whitest whites, where an additional rinse is the pre-programmed default. Said to insure thorough rinsing of chlorine bleach. If liquid bleach is used, (1/3 cup max) it is dispensed in the 1st rinse water....so the fabrics are only exposed to the chlorine solution for 4 minutes or less depending on the cycle. Now in the event of an oversuds...which is sensed by the pressure switch, an additional gallon of cold water will be introduced during the 'kill-foam' routine. When this occurs the time countdown stops, and the display shows 'SUD'. The unit pauses for 5 minutes then resumes. The 'stain-treat' option will heat the warm incoming water to 120 for Normal, 127 for Heavy duty and Whites and 153 on Sani. Without the stain option, the heater will boost the wash water temps if the auto temp control is unable to achieve target fill temps. of 77 cold, 104 warm and 122 hot. The water heating takes place during the allotted wash time....no extra delay. O.k......can't wait to hear from the new owners.....regards....Leslie
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Post# 3998-8/24/2001-16:42 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Hettie Manuals (KA DW history)
MESSAGE: Hey, Leslie, I picked up your info set on the KA DWs and really enjoyed reading it. However, it stops at the 21 series, and I have a 22. Do you have any additional info on it?
How's about similar kinds of "inside info" on other Whirlpool-family product lines -- like washers and dryers and microwaves? Any kind of info on marketing research and engineering trade-offs is fascinating. John L mentioned that Whirlpool and Kenmore both had a VARIABLE-speed washer for a short time -- that one escaped me completely, sure would like to know more about it.
How does one get to be selected for consumer-testing new products, like the Hettie?
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Post# 3999-8/24/2001-17:29 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: HE3t or Riding mower???
MESSAGE: Get the Hetties a pair of opera glasses and a lawn service.
:-)