The following are archived forum messages from the original forum of automaticwasher.org referred to as Applianceville from May, 2001 to Sept 2004...
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Post# 30000-6/3/2003-17:59 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frigidaire Coin Operated Washers (No Brand Loyalty ... except for Maytag's)
MESSAGE: Hi Scott,
The Jetcone vs. Three Ring Pulsator explanation makes sense.
Except for washing machines, my mom has no brand loyalty. Her 1952 manual defrost Hotpoint fridge was replaced by a 1973 frost free Frigidaire. That was replaced by a 2000 Whirlpool side by side. Her 1959 LK top loading portable dishwasher was replaced by a top loading Kitchen Aid portable in the mid to late 70's. She didn't get her first automatic until 1962 and you would have thought that she would have followed the lead of my aunt (and her big sister)and bought a Frigidaire, but no she had to get a Maytag like the rest of our neighbors. That Maytag served her well until around the time that the 1-18's were introduced. I remember going with my parents (and drooling over a poppy, windowed 1-18) when they went to a local appliance dealer to replace the Maytag. I tried my best to talk mom into buying the 1-18. Her response an emphatic "Why would I want to buy anything LESS than a Maytag?" (I wanted to repspond "Because they're boring!", but knew better than to argue with my parents in public!) She bought a bought a Maytag. (Sigh!)
Mike
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Post# 30001-6/3/2003-18:14 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frigidaire Coin Operated Washers (Tangling and Frigidaires)
MESSAGE: Wow! Thanks Mark. Who knew? The funny thing is that the aunt who had the late 1950's three ring Frigidaire is VERY particular. She never had an children and everything in her house had to be perfect at all times. (She even had white wall to wall carpet in the living room!) (A widow, she now lives in an assisted living facilty.) You would have thought that she would have an issue with tangling. She never mentioned it.
During the week or so that my mom was between Maytags, I volunteered to take the family wash to a local laundromat that had coin operated GE Filter Flo's. (I would have walked several miles in I knew of a laudromat that had Frigidaire Jet Cones. :-)) They were turquoise blue and had the removable lint filters/detergent dispensors. (I was always surprised that those never walked. LOL!) The only problem was that they also had Maytag like safety switches that stopped all the action when the lid was lifted. (Sob!)(BTW, that laundromat is still there. The blue GE's are long gone unfortunately.)
Thanks again,
Mike
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Post# 30002-6/3/2003-20:46 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frigidaire Coin Operated Washers (No Brand Loyalty ... except for Maytag's)
MESSAGE: Hi JerseyMike,
I talked my Aunt into buying the poppy 1/18 set in 74
what a beautiful set
She even had the wall in the basementment painted poppy to match the set
Peter
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Post# 30003-6/3/2003-21:23 ||| alr2903 (new orleans)
SUBJECT:
RE: Easy made Westinghouse Top-loader (Westy TL by easy)
MESSAGE: Geoff, We will look fwd to some pictures. When you have time.
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Post# 30004-6/3/2003-23:00 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frigidaire Coin-Ops
MESSAGE: I'll bet maytag doesn't put the filter on because it would never get cleaned. It would just sit in there and rot. Not to mention, I have seen people put detergent in the fabric softener dispenser. (It does sound quite stupid!)
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Post# 30005-6/3/2003-23:05 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frigidaire Coin-Ops
MESSAGE: Weird, I just mentioned the same thing. The reason I thought of it was because we have a pair of very old maytags at my work. The fabric softener dispenser is long gone, but I went to unload the washer one time and there was a white, gooey, sticky mess in the lint filter. I guess someone thought the little hole in the bottom was for the detergent to fall through. Then pulling the filter out revealed an even more discusting surprise, (Black, slimy crap which probably used to be lint.) I got it all cleaned out though. (with some very hot water and a toothbrush:-)
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Post# 30006-6/3/2003-23:07 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frigidaire Coin Operated Washers (Re: Coin-Op Frigidaire's:)
MESSAGE: A 100 load lint filter would be great! Then it wouldn't be that bad if people forgot to emtpy it. It would be cool if a manufacturer could either put in a big disposable bag (like a vacuum bag) Or use cyclones to remove the lint. (Although, cyclones don't even work well on vacuums, they would probably work even worse on dryers.)
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Post# 30007-6/3/2003-23:14 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frigidaire Coin Operated Washers (Tangling and Frigidaires)
MESSAGE: You let a little lid switch stop your fun lol. I find it so easy to cheat even a maytag lid switch. I frequently do so at work. (yes it is a boring maytag but still fun to watch the new, to me, spin drain.) Can you imagine, the first EVER spin drain I saw was from the maytag at work. I have had 15 years of neutral drains. I must say, I like spin-drains. (I make our kenmore spin drain by interupting drain at the beginning and then holding the lid switch down.)
The way I cheat the maytag's lid switch is by holding the lid almost straight up and putting a pencil (lengthwise, parralel with the top and console.) and pushing it down into the crevice between the lid and the lid switch button. It works great. For any other washer, I just hold my little finger in the lid switch hole.
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Post# 30008-6/3/2003-23:46 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frigidaire Coin Operated Washers (Lid Switches)
MESSAGE: Hi Kurt,
LOL! I never the lid switch on my Mom's Maytag's defeat me. ;-) I never had the nerve to try defeating the ones at a laundromat. The attendant would probably call the cops (or at least try to stop me) and the other customers would think that I was nuts.
Mike
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Post# 30009-6/4/2003-00:31 ||| geoff (Connecticut)
SUBJECT:
RE: Easy made Westinghouse Top-loader (Westy TL by easy)
MESSAGE: OHHHH, you can count on it, I'm still in awe, My friend Carl got a GIANT kick out of my reaction when he told me all the info on it LOL. I think I made a scene LOL. Well, there are some stories behind it, but I'll tell later!!
Regards,
Geoff
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Post# 30010-6/4/2003-02:10 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frigidaire Coin Operated Washers (Lid Switches)
MESSAGE: Oh yeah, hehe I guess that would be a problem. I have to wait for everyone else to be gone before I take the maytag for a drive:-) However, a girl that works there loves to vacuum:-) And I love to wash. But I haven't made it even slightly known. But the girl has told us more than once that she loves to vacuum. People think that is a little weird. Haha, they should come to this site:-)
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Post# 30011-6/4/2003-09:54 ||| laundromat (florida)
SUBJECT:
frigidaire washers
MESSAGE: The correct agitators for the Frigidaire washers were the 3 Ring agitator,the Deep Action agitator(it looked like a space capsul)and the Jet Cone agitator which was made for the 1-18 models.So many people confuse the Deep Action agitator with the Jet Cone and it's not.They're very different.The Deep Action had 4 portholes square shaped that conducted the "Jet-Away Lint Removal"As extra water came in,the force caused it to spray through the holes and down the drain taking lint and soap scum with it.the previous 3 Ring agitator used the "Lint Chaser" yellow ring to do the same.The Jet Cone agitator just moved the clothes and the seperate recirculating filter did the job removing lint.
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Post# 30012-6/4/2003-11:39 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT:
Fridgidaire Laundromat Washers
MESSAGE: Yep I Used Em'
There was a Laundromat at the north end of town in Grand Ledge near the Mobile Home park that until about 1994-95 had a few of the old avacado Fridgidaire Coin-Op's there. It had the spaceship style agitator because it was all grey rubber if my memory serves me and had the four square holes that if you opened the lid did blow water out at you or at least the one at the very end of the row did.
Several times when Ma's Maytags crapped out I took my laundry over there and washed my clothes because it was CHEAP only $.50 a load and an UNBELIEVEABLE $.25 for the dryers. An ol blind man that still lives above the building worked the mat and he told me that they seldom broke on him, because i remember buggin the hell out of him with questions about them.
If my mem serves me they had nothing but one dial for water temperature that was actually located below where you would think It should be on the instrument panel. In fact it was down just before it sloped into the flat lid surface where I would sit and read the 5 year old periodicals that most every laundtromat has. Yeah it was mounted right on the porcelain and there was NO cold water wash? They looked like Sammy Stevens washer and dryer on Bewitched. and nothing like my 1-18's. Had more of a slant back control panel to it.
Oh yeah that's right...He also had some front loaders called ironically Dexter Automagic II and III that were these huge monster washers that did double and triple loads and all of them were all kindsa different colors like orange, brown, green, yellow, red that the old blind guy must have painted because they looked HIDEOUS. anyway I never used them because the double loaders were $2.00 and the Triple loaders were 3.00.
The newer Laundromat had Whirlpool washers and dryers and Milnor and Wascomat double and triple loaders. But they were ALWAYS expensive so if the Maytags ever poohed themselves I would go to the old mat.
Besides I loved watching the Fridgidaire's go. That's why when my Great Uncle Joe called and told me that he had a pair of them...at his cottage and he wanted to put "Kenmores" up there I jumped on them. Mine are white or off white whichever you prefer and it does NOT have the window but it is a Custom Imperial set.
Anyway to finish the Laundromat thing, I know at least eight of 12 you could raise the lid and it would agitate. I loved the splat,splat,splat,splat,splat,splat,splat,splat sound they made while washing and most importantly my stuff was clean and smelled good and NOT tangled, or at least I never thought so. And I really don't think that my 1-18's do it either unless it's sheets or something big and billowy.
Yeah they had to be old because they had a dark black and white speckeled smooth inner tub. Yeah because I wondered where the hell the water went. Now I know!
Anyway that laundromat closed in June 1996 because I had JUst got back from college and wanted to go there and do my laundry in one fell swoop and lo and behold...It was dark and empty.
Sadness
Chad
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Post# 30013-6/4/2003-11:50 ||| bsmntfullosuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
Dryers at Allentown, PA thrift store
MESSAGE: I checked out RePlace today. More interesting than the usual old clothes and kitchen drawer junk type of thrift store.
Think these dryers were all $50 each, looked OK:
* GE V12 "Clothes Conditioning" with foot pedal door opener
* 2 Kenmores with flip-up covers over the control panels, one brushed aluminum cover with vertical lines that looked like from the early-to-mid 60s, other "Lady Kenmore" with automatic drying control and a "Sears Best" sticker, looked like from early 70s.
* Westinghouse (not White-Westinghouse) from 70s
* avocado Maytag with single dial, looks like my DE806
$25, dryer looked kind of scratched up:
Frigidaire 1-18
Several late 70s-80s Kenmore washers too.
More info:
" Good Shephard has recently established a division called "The RePlace" located at 2330 26th Street SW in Allentown. This division of Good Shepherd provides meaningful employment to persons with disabilities and also reduces the amounts of materials entering landfills. This program accepts household items such as, used building materials, cabinets, appliances, home furnishings, home electronics, doors, lighting fixtures, exercise equipment and much more. Items are cleaned and minor repairs are made then the items are offered for sale at the warehouse....
Call (610)709-0205 for more information"
Link below to Good Shepherd:
LINK: http://www.goodshepherdrehab.org/volunteer/index.html
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Post# 30014-6/4/2003-11:53 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT:
Frigidaire Laundroamt Washers
MESSAGE: One more thing....
I got so excited about the 1-18's when Joe gave them to me...but never really paid much mind to the ones in the laundromat....or ever asked Steve "the blind guy";If I could have or buy an old one...Where the hell was my brain? Was I THAT dense and slow to the punch...wait don't answer..yeah I was........I wasn't "out" yet to the fact that I Liked Washers. Just Vacuum Cleaners. And I had about 40-50 Antique/Old ones at that point in my moms basement...and believe me I vacuum EVERY day unless im dying with my "Hoover Celebrity III QS Canister".
That's all
Chad
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Post# 30015-6/4/2003-11:55 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dryers at Allentown, PA thrift store (Kenmores)
MESSAGE: Those are 1970-73 models. B-E-A-utiful
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Post# 30016-6/4/2003-11:55 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dryers at Allentown, PA thrift store (Kenmores)
MESSAGE: Those are 1970-73 models. B-E-A-utiful
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Post# 30017-6/4/2003-11:58 ||| bsmntfullosuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dryers at Allentown, PA thrift store
MESSAGE: GE dryer close, but not exact match to this washer:
LINK: http://www.classicappliances.com/MUSEUM/General-Electric/1964-GE-Filter-Flo-Tom/1964-GE-Filter-Flo-Tom-Exterior.jpg
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Post# 30018-6/4/2003-12:02 ||| bsmntfullosuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dryers at Allentown, PA thrift store (Kenmores)
MESSAGE: There was a white plastic strip, either in top of the "Lady Kenmore" flip door or right over it, that looked like it mightve been a light.
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Post# 30019-6/4/2003-12:14 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dryers at Allentown, PA thrift store (Kenmores)
MESSAGE: umm..Jason....have you been to the movies just recently then? ;-)
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Post# 30020-6/4/2003-12:32 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dryers at Allentown, PA thrift store (Getting to see the appliances at the "
RePlace"
!!!)
MESSAGE: Okay "Bsmntfullosuds":
I clicked on the link that is listed in your post, looked all over the site, and I couldn't find anything that mentioned anything about "The RePlace" on it anywhere. Where do I have to go in order to get to "The RePlace".
Where else at the site do I need to go??? What links do I need to click on in order to get there???
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Post# 30021-6/4/2003-12:57 ||| bsmntfullosuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dryers at Allentown, PA thrift store (Getting to see the appliances at the )
MESSAGE: REPLACE, 2330 26th Street S.W. , Allentown
(610)709-0205
There is a traffic light at 26th St. and Emaus Ave, near the I-78 overpass. I think there may be an exit-only ramp from I-78 West directly to Emaus Ave, would have to make a U-turn on Emaus Ave to get to 26th St.
Nearby Lehigh St. has exits and onramps to I-78 East and West.
I posted the "Volunteer Opportunities" link, as it was the only Good Shepherd page that even mentioned the store address.
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Post# 30022-6/4/2003-16:13 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
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RE: Dryers at Allentown, PA thrift store (Getting to see the appliances at the )
MESSAGE: That's not what I am talking about.
I'm talking about how do I get to see the appliances here on the internet???
What link do I need to click on in order for me to see them???
--Charles--
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Post# 30023-6/4/2003-17:06 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
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RE: Dryers at Allentown, PA thrift store (I GOT THE POWER)
MESSAGE: Why yes, why do you ask?
I need a spoo----oon
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Post# 30024-6/4/2003-18:01 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT:
?? for IMPERIAL BOB
MESSAGE: Inquiring minds want to know. Did the JB weld hold? Will the Bendix put the big squeeze on the tidy whities? Will Martha go to jail? (sorry I got carried away!)
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Post# 30025-6/4/2003-21:45 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT:
RE: ?? for IMPERIAL BOB
MESSAGE: Well Mr. B. we are all waiting... How did it go?? Did she or didn't she? And did he know about the cork in the bat?? (-:
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Post# 30026-6/4/2003-21:49 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT:
todays p.o.d.
MESSAGE: Todays p.o.d. how quant,the mini clothes thrasher! (-:
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Post# 30027-6/5/2003-05:55 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
J.B. WELD -HELD!
MESSAGE: Oh yes! It's working again. Tomorrow night we're having a huge pride party with about 75 people here generating hot tub towels & other laundry, PLUS I'm expecting a special guest, and will take a video with my special guest tomorrow night to show the operation of my rubber tub Bendix. Hint - the special guest is coming in from Birmingham Alabama to visit his Sister who just had a baby in Silver Spring Md....
So - Thank you for asking! Yes! All my childrens are working at this time as they should and my new laundry room arrangement has incredibly more light and space than before.
PEACE & PRIDE!
B
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Post# 30028-6/5/2003-11:58 ||| radiobill1966 (Indianapolis, IN)
SUBJECT:
RE: J.B. WELD -HELD!
MESSAGE: I'm sold! I'm gonna have to get some of that stuff for repairs around here!
Bill
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Post# 30029-6/5/2003-18:47 ||| christfr (st louis mo)
SUBJECT:
frigidaire 3 ring
MESSAGE: the poor baby i brought home is a wcd62 and the former owner changed the 3 ring to a jet cone i have tried and tried to find a 3 ring to put her back to original but not having any luck anyone out there have any idea where one might be we would both be very happy campers indeed
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Post# 30030-6/5/2003-20:19 ||| bsmntfullosuds (Pennsylvania)
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RE: Dryers at Allentown, PA thrift store (Sorry, no photos)
MESSAGE: Sorry, I didn't happen to have my camera while visiting the store. Its a thrift store without a web presence online. I posted the message for benefit of anyone who happened to be in the area. Most thrift stores don't accept major appliances, because of the disposal fees.
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Post# 30031-6/5/2003-20:36 ||| bsmntfullosuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
The perfect classic appliance-hauling truck
MESSAGE: The Corvair 95 Rampside pickup has a big ramp on the passenger's side. It was produced 1961-1964. The ramp folds down from a piano hinge at the bottom of the bed. This is probably the cleverest addition ever made to the American pickup truck: It allows you to roll or slide most any object into the bed without lifting.
LINK: http://www.mindspring.com/~corvair/fc1.html
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Post# 30032-6/6/2003-01:51 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
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"POD" for Friday, GE Washer & Dryer:
MESSAGE: Hi! Dear Club Member Friend's, I just saw the new "POD" for Friday, June 5th and I wanted to know who might know what year they came out For Sale? They are one of a few Models that I love the best. I esepcially like the "Slide-Rule" Timer Movement on both the Washer and Dryer. The other Model that I really like had the Controls on the lower part of the Console and a Fluorescent Light on the Top, with just a Light Lens above, without any Frame around the Lens. I think that the 2nd Machines I'm talking about is from 1968, but I don't remember the year of the other ones that are the "POD" now. I would really appreciate anyones knowledge of the years of them. I hope to find at least the Washer, of either Model year or if I see any other year Models I like and buy the Washer for my Collection. I would like very much to find a GE Spot-Scrubber Washer, but I would prefer to find one of the Models that is White-On-White.
I look forward in hearing from someone about the Model years and I look forward in reading the upcoming Postings.
Big Teddy Bear Hugs, Steve
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Post# 30033-6/6/2003-06:42 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
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RE: "POD" for Friday, GE Washer & Dryer:
MESSAGE: Steve,
I knew of a washer & dryer in coppertone like these that were in a warehouse in Atlanta. If my memory serves me, the washer did not have the dispenser. The cabinets were in fair shape and the washer and dryer both had blue speckled porcelean interiors.
They were not hooked up, so I can't say what shape they were in mechanically.
Definately cool looking. The owner wanted $300 - $500 (somewhere in that neighborhood). Peter H had seen them, too.
Steve1-18
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Post# 30034-6/6/2003-06:55 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: The perfect classic appliance-hauling truck (WOW)
MESSAGE: Now that is slick! You can roll a 1970 Kenmore 800 on that truck real easy.
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Post# 30035-6/6/2003-07:58 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: "POD" for Friday, GE Washer & Dryer:
MESSAGE: Hi Steve,
The GE POD is from the early / Mid 60's. Do not know how long they made that style though. John Lefever has one in his collection. You may be able to see it in the member links section of the club. The other GE with the light on top is from about 66'. I have this model dryer in white. I would like the matching washer also. Maybe someday.
Cheers to all,
Bruce
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Post# 30036-6/6/2003-08:24 ||| mulls (Johnson City,Tn)
SUBJECT:
coin laundry
MESSAGE: Hello Brothers
I know one of our members owns a coin laundry.Who is it?I am considering the business and am seeking advice.
Tom
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Post# 30037-6/6/2003-08:39 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
50's GE Dishwasher
MESSAGE: Hi All,
Just wanted to let everyone know about a late 50's or 60's GE Mobile Maid dishwasher for sale on Ebay. The item number is #2327492087. The machine looks to be in great shape and the PINK interior looks perfect.
It is in Atlanta.
Bruce
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Post# 30038-6/6/2003-08:40 ||| Pulsator (826 Vesper ,Ann Arbor, Michigan 48103)
SUBJECT:
Commercial Front-Load Washing Machine
MESSAGE: Me and my mother have decided to combine the forces of our Fisher Paykel and a Commercial Front-Loader. Does anyone have any adivice on which to buy or do any of you for some reason have one that we could have? Any info would superb!
Best Washes!
Jamie
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Post# 30039-6/6/2003-08:52 ||| Pulsator (826 Vesper ,Ann Arbor, Michigan 48103)
SUBJECT:
Happy Birthday to ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MESSAGE: I am so sorry but I have been busy studying for final exams and doing homework and stuff that I forgot to announce my own birthday! My birthday was May 31! I completely forgot! But I am officaly a Teen! 13 years old!
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Post# 30040-6/6/2003-10:27 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: coin laundry
MESSAGE: That would be me! Email me at PeterH770@aol.com...
-ph
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Post# 30041-6/6/2003-10:31 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Birthday to ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Great day to be a teen!)
MESSAGE: Jamie,
Happy belated birthday and I hope all your washing machine dreams has come true in the beginnings of your teens!
Larry
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Post# 30042-6/6/2003-10:46 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Commercial Front-Load Washing Machine
MESSAGE: Jamie, that is great to go both ways to own a top loader and a front loader to get the best of both worlds! If you go with an commercial front loader, it is best that the machine sits on a concrete floor and it must be bolted down. I'm still waiting to get an answer on how to bolt one down.
Anyway, it may be wise to get a front loader that has an suspension system built in where it can be used on a solid wood floor (floor joist may need to be added to firm up the floor) without being anchored to minimize vibrations and if you do go commercial, try looking in the yellow pages under laundry and see if you could get a used machine one at a discounted price....
I wish you the best of luck!
Larry
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Post# 30043-6/6/2003-10:51 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: coin laundry
MESSAGE: Peter,
Did you check your E-mail today???
Reply when you get a chance..........
Larry
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Post# 30044-6/6/2003-11:15 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Birthday to ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MESSAGE: Happy Birthday, and best of luck with your washer shopping!
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Post# 30045-6/6/2003-11:17 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: "POD" for Friday, GE Washer & Dryer:
MESSAGE: I have an ad dated 1964 that has this type of machine in it, and was lucky enough to get to see it in person at last year's convention. Unfortunately for whatever reason this design was not made terribly long. The second ones you're speaking of came out in 1966, and these timelines were between those and the older style with the control panel on pedestals.
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Post# 30046-6/6/2003-11:41 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: The perfect classic appliance-hauling truck
MESSAGE: Knowing me, if I were to hit the lottery, this would be my dream coach to go on tour with my vintage machines! This vehicle can be converted to whatever you want to with a wheel chair lift added that loading and unloading a machine would be a breeze! Since the luggage compartment are huge and I would incorporate a nice size water tank that would heat the water off a caterpillar engine since the engine runs hot at 210 degrees and I would add extra batteries to turn on the auto heating unit during the winter to keep the water from freezing when sitting idle during the cold winters, plus I would add a gas or diesel generator to keep the noise down when the vehicle is not idling that has a dual purpose to keep me comfortable as well as protecting the water system....
This baby has air suspension ride that handles like a Cadillac and turn corners as if you was driving an Maxima!
Oh I just need 6 winning numbers and my 45 feet bus with dreamy vintage machines in it would make my dreams come true!
LINK: http://www.prevostcar.com/eng/default.htm
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Post# 30047-6/6/2003-11:41 ||| davy1063 (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Birthday to ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MESSAGE: HEY BUD!!! Happy Birthday! I hope you have a great summer too!!!
Dave
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Post# 30048-6/6/2003-11:50 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: The perfect classic appliance-hauling truck
MESSAGE: a wheelchair lift....what an excellent idea for getting machines in and out of a van/truck!
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Post# 30049-6/6/2003-11:59 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: The perfect classic appliance-hauling truck
MESSAGE: yep, an awesome invention that is nice to have!
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Post# 30050-6/6/2003-12:09 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: "POD" for Friday, GE Washer & Dryer: (Thank you for info:)
MESSAGE: Hi! Steve 1-18, thank you for the info about the Machines. I wish I lived a whole lot closer and had enough extra money to spend on collectibles. I remembered after leaving my Posting Thursday night, that the Washer and Dryer's both had this Cylinder-Type Tube with the White and Red Painted surface on it, in a Spiral and as the Tube turned during the Cycle, it was indicating what the Machine was doing as that part of the Cycle. The Full Red indication would be from left to right, indicating that the Washer or Dryer was finished, being at the right side "Off Position" and I always thought that was such a neat way to show the progress of the Cycles.
There was also another Model Set that had the Fluorescent Light below the Console, but they looked otherwise just like the ones with the Light above the Console. For whatever reason, without looking at them directly, I don't remember why, but I didn't like the looks of the ones with the Light at the bottom, as much as being on the top of the Console.
Thanks again for the info, I look forward in hearing more stories about all of these and other Stories.
Best always, Big Teddy Bear Hugs, Steve
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Post# 30051-6/6/2003-12:14 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: "POD" for Friday, GE Washer & Dryer: (Re: GE "
POD"
Info:)
MESSAGE: Hey! Dear Club Friend's, thank you all for your nice replies to my inquiry and everyones stories about the "POD" GE Washer and Dryer. I always look forward in reading all of the Postings as others mention and I do as you see Post when I want to input my info as well, besides trying to help others out as well. Keep up the great Stories and Info Highway going always.
Big Teddy Bear Hugs, Steve
P.S. "Happy Birthday" Jamie, may your Birthday Appliance Wish come True for you...
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Post# 30052-6/6/2003-12:32 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Birthday to ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Happy Birthday to ME)
MESSAGE: Jammie
I hope U have a Great Bday!
Peter
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Post# 30053-6/6/2003-14:10 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Birthday to ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MESSAGE:
YAY!
Birthday Best Wishes to you!
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Post# 30054-6/6/2003-20:00 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
MYSTERY GUEST
MESSAGE: Well you'll just have to guess who it is.....
B
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/chris.wmv
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Post# 30055-6/6/2003-21:00 ||| JAKINS (Kissimmee, Fl.)
SUBJECT:
Workin onthe Westies
MESSAGE: Hi Guys.
I have been working on the westinghouse twins for a few days now. A big Thanks to Greg for the part # for the boot. also for the instructions. that part went off with no problems. Now for the big problem that I have found tonight. I looks like the speed control may be bad after all. I runs fine when the washer is empty and on spin, however when it is under a load it will not tumble. I checked to see that the pullys were tight and dry and they were. does anyone have any sugestions as to what i can do. or does anyone know where this part can be gotten. thanks
John
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/jakins2001/lst?&.dir=/GENERAL+ELECTRIC+DISHWASHER&.src=ph&.view=t
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Post# 30056-6/6/2003-21:10 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Workin onthe Westies
MESSAGE: John,
I subscribe to the DRS News. In the last issue ths is what I read:
The DRS News
May 2003
Welcome to the 1st anniversary issue of the DRSNews!
This newsletter is sent once each month, by request only.
If you enjoy it, you’re welcome to tell your friends about it.
They can subscribe by simply emailing us : drs@sosbbs.com
with the subject ‘SubscribeDRSN’ & their first name in the text.
Email: drs@sosbbs.com Phone: 570-363-2404
***************************************
In this issue:
1) ‘Clutch your belt!’ – Top Load Washer Drive Systems
1) Washer drive systems – belts as clutches:
Many washers today still use a drive belt of one type or another, and most of these LOOK like common ‘V-belts’ that can be bought at any auto-parts store.
But: They’re NOT! Be aware that most of these belts also serve as the spin *clutch*, and are specially treated so they can endure ‘controlled slippage’. Regular, non-treated belts will *fit* and the machine will agitate just fine, but will not slip, and all you’ll hear is ‘hummmm’ when the machine tries to spin.
This applies to those of Maytag manufacture (Maytag, Amana/Speed Queen, Norge, Admiral, Magic Chef) as well as
Frigidaire/Electrolux products (Frigidaire, Gibson, Kelvinator, Tappan, Westinghouse)
Trouble is, by the time you hear the dreaded ‘hum’, the tub’s
already full of soapy water and laundry, and the machine won’t
pump it out because it can’t spin with a ‘regular’ v-belt, designed NOT to slip! It agitated just fine, your tools are all put away, and you’re enjoying the admiring glances of the laundry person, but...
There are a couple of exceptions to the rule. GE/Hotpoints still use a spin clutch and regular belt (although on their newest ‘Profile’ models, the belt usually slips within 2-3 years anyway – from becoming oil-soaked!), and a ‘generic’ replacement will work. But the genuine GE belts are very reasonable and readily available.
Happy Washing,
Steve 1-18
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Post# 30057-6/6/2003-21:15 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Birthday to ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MESSAGE: Jamie, Congratulations on becoming a teenager. I remember my 13th birthday, but it didn't have anything to do with appliances unfortunately. Hope it was a happy one.
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Post# 30058-6/6/2003-21:18 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: "POD" for Friday, GE Washer & Dryer:
MESSAGE: Darn, I honestly do not remember seeing this washer at all in the collection or warehouse. Rats!!! I think I'm still in overload mode from seeing everything that weekend.
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Post# 30059-6/6/2003-22:52 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Workin onthe Westies
MESSAGE: John,
I can't believe how well the inner tub cleaned up, very impressive work!
Please keep us updated on your progress with some more of those great photos!
-Alex
Fort Lauderdale, Florida
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Post# 30060-6/7/2003-00:50 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Workin onthe Westies
MESSAGE: You are doing a great job on the westy so far, your cleaning of the iron deposits on the tub and drum is truly beautiful, they look nearly new again!
I have some service info that might be helpful for adjusting that speed changer which I can try to get for you after the weekend. We've been busy working on the 55 Frigidaire unimatic rebuilding and some other exciting weekend finds which I will post pics of later.
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Post# 30061-6/7/2003-09:12 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Commercial Front-Load Washing Machine
MESSAGE: Hi Jamie
Congratulations on being 13.
Actually I just found out today that I forgot my nephew's 14th birthday on June 7th - how much trouble am I in???
Please follow the link to sandbox for your modern machine question.
Best Wishes
Chris
LINK: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Applianceville-Sandbox/message/1055
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Post# 30062-6/7/2003-10:31 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
Take a look....
MESSAGE: Does this look like a GE?
Not.....
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2327790229&category=20714
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Post# 30063-6/7/2003-12:24 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Take a look....
MESSAGE: Why does the seller makes these minor posting error?
The brand name is stamp right on the front of it!
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Post# 30064-6/7/2003-19:40 ||| Pulsator (826 Vesper ,Ann Arbor, Michigan 48103)
SUBJECT:
The Time Has Come To Sell
MESSAGE: Well I am going to sell my Lady Kenmore washer and my Kenmore washer. They both work. The Lady Kenmore timer sticks on the normal cycle, but I am sure some of you applian experts can spray some sort of grease on it and get it to work fine again.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/agitatorjamie/lst?.dir=/My+Photos&.view=t
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Post# 30065-6/7/2003-20:57 ||| Applguy (Detroit)
SUBJECT:
James Dishwasher
MESSAGE: I am looking for a James Manufacturing Co. dishwasher to purchase.... top load with glass top.
Mark
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Post# 30066-6/8/2003-02:40 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Take a look....
MESSAGE: Haha, I'de have to say Whirlpool:-) But really, maybe he tried to say "washer general. Electric top loader." And his terrible grammer messed us up? He still doesn't deserve a sale.
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Post# 30067-6/8/2003-05:56 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Take a look.... (GENERAL)
MESSAGE: Gee, Kurt. You're so smart. I learn so much from reading your drivel 2 or 3 times a day that I just don't know how I managed to live this long without knowing someone as witty and intelligent as you. Are all Canadians as smart as you? I think everyone over 15 years old in the club now oughta just retire & go sit down while we let our 13 & 15 year olds here just tell any story that comes into their little minds - weather true or imaginary - so we can all just reply how wonderful the children are today.
So. What else can you tell us today about vintage appliances, Kurt Or Jamie? Don't know? Just make something up - like any of us old fools are gonna know you're just fabricating..
We'll read anything. We're old. (yeah, right)
CHAOS & MAYHEM to you.
B
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Post# 30068-6/8/2003-06:30 ||| Maniac (Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Take a look.... (GENERAL)
MESSAGE: BOB.....your an asshole
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Post# 30069-6/8/2003-06:31 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT:
RE: Take a look.... (GENERAL Seems to have a bad day)
MESSAGE: Bob Who crawled up your butt and died. I thought that you had changed your bitter ways but I can see it was all a charade.
Philippe
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Post# 30070-6/8/2003-07:01 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT:
Rinse hold and cool off
MESSAGE: Ok guys time out lets be nice here, I wanna know something. Can any one tell if there are any more wings going to be open, on the classic appliances cyber museum.
Love and big bear hugz to all Kevin
LINK: http://www.kevinkunsworth.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
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Post# 30071-6/8/2003-07:15 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Take a look.... (GENERAL)
MESSAGE: Bob,
I must say your off the wall....LOL
what are we going to do with ya?
Well I'm going to go potty and drops some toys into the bowl and think about this one!
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Post# 30072-6/8/2003-07:24 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
OFF THE WALL
MESSAGE: Ya. I'm off the wall. Welcome to me. But DO NOT - maniac - come in to a public place and call ME any name like the one you did. That ain't gonna do.
B
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Post# 30073-6/8/2003-07:38 ||| maniac (Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: OFF THE WALL
MESSAGE: you know BOB.. it's people with your mightier than though attitude that make this world a bad place to live...
PEACE
Maniac
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Post# 30074-6/8/2003-07:39 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT:
Redistribute and restart the wash
MESSAGE: An appology is needed here guys Kevin
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Post# 30075-6/8/2003-07:47 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
maniac
MESSAGE: It's un-qualified, ignorant folks like you, and your posts calling me names and nothing more, that make THIS LIST no place for serious vintage appliance collectors. I agree - I think appoligies are in order.
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Post# 30076-6/8/2003-07:48 ||| maniac (Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Redistribute and restart the wash
MESSAGE: Yes, Kevin, I'm waiting to see how Bobby will apologize to Kurt this time, and while he's doing that all canadians for that matter.
PEACE & LOVE
Maniac
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Post# 30077-6/8/2003-08:03 ||| imperial70 (Mass)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Time Has Come To Sell
MESSAGE: The newer Kenmore appears to have a surgilator type agitator. However, the fabric softener dispenser is not characteristic of a Whirlpool-made Kenmore. Anyone know who makes/made this product for Kenmore?
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Post# 30078-6/8/2003-09:46 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Time Has Come To Sell
MESSAGE: The agitator is a straight vane agitator and the front of the cabinet is a Roper design so that it makes it a Whirlpool product!
Roper had this cabinet design for their large capacity machines back in the 90's, but it was short in height for some reason???
Correct me if I'm wrong!!!
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Post# 30079-6/8/2003-10:03 ||| cehalstead (charleston, wv)
SUBJECT:
vintage ads
MESSAGE: Could the webmaster contact me? I have lots of old appliance ads and would be willing to share.
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Post# 30080-6/8/2003-11:26 ||| Chicago-barry (Chicago)
SUBJECT:
Oven Restoration Companies
MESSAGE: Does anyone know of a restoration company that isn't too far from, or is actually in Chicago? I'm thinking of buying an old Frigidaire Flair double oven, but I'd like to have it fully restored, inside and out.
Thanks
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Post# 30081-6/8/2003-13:04 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Time Has Come To Sell
MESSAGE: It's a portable just like my Lady K. It does look a little different though. I wonder what year this one is.
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Post# 30082-6/8/2003-13:22 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Rinse hold and cool off
MESSAGE: Kevin, the webmaster of this site who has a very large, wonderful collection of appliances, tvs, and such, is looking to move house just now and is very busy. It will probably be a while before any new wings sprout up, but it will be a great thing to look forward to when they do!
What part of England do you live in? Another friend and member also lives in England.
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Post# 30083-6/8/2003-14:17 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Redistribute and restart the wash
MESSAGE: I suggest that we mind our respective businesses on this one. It won't do to have a Canada vs.US situation. Haven't we had enough war already??
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Post# 30084-6/8/2003-15:55 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Time Has Come To Sell
MESSAGE: That is the Whirlpool World Washer. It's a great little machine when it works. Jamie, have you taken out the Fab Softener dispenser and cleaned the little lint filter thats in there?
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Post# 30085-6/8/2003-15:58 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Time Has Come To Sell
MESSAGE: That machine replaced the normal DD design portables. You can can see them at any Sears store. They are also sold under the GE name.
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Post# 30086-6/8/2003-16:13 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Time Has Come To Sell
MESSAGE: Yeah. My bad, there's 2 machines. One's a 70s or early 80s belt drive like mine and the other is a current WP portable machine. I was wondering the year is on the older one.
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Post# 30087-6/8/2003-16:40 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Take a look.... (GENERAL)
MESSAGE: No, we don't read everything. After a while, we pick and choose whose posts we want to read and to whom we want to respond. Whitty play on words, Kurt. Good thing we aren't so strict about deleting ascerbic posts, Bob.
-ph
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Post# 30088-6/8/2003-16:41 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Take a look.... (GENERAL)
MESSAGE: Totally uncalled for, Maniac...
-ph
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Post# 30089-6/8/2003-16:43 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Rinse hold and cool off
MESSAGE: Kevin, the museum takes time to video, transfer to digital, build the web page and transfer pics to it. Webmaster is moving, so we will have to wait patiently...
-ph
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Post# 30090-6/8/2003-16:45 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: vintage ads
MESSAGE: Your best bet is to scan them and send them to him via email... Robert is currently looking for new/more ads for the POD feature.
-ph
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Post# 30091-6/8/2003-17:15 ||| alr2903 (new orleans)
SUBJECT:
RE: Take a look.... (GENERAL)
MESSAGE: Imperial Bob, I have to agree, speak your mind, and lets hope, this fab site stays VINTAGE, I thought that the sandbox was the place for some of these Field of Dreams ideas... I like to read the stories re: vintage and see the pics of vintage. As always Bob you have a way of getting to the heart of it. :-) ALR2903. P.S. Geoff Im eager to see those westy T/L pics.... Hope everyone has a great weekend.
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Post# 30092-6/8/2003-17:51 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT:
RE: Rinse hold and cool off (You wanted to know )
MESSAGE: Hi there Scott, you wanted to know what area of England I live in. I live in the North East of England a place called Gateshead, in the county of Tyneside. Love and big hairy hugz
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Post# 30093-6/8/2003-18:02 ||| christfr (st louis mo)
SUBJECT:
time to play
MESSAGE: arnt weekends just the best when you have time to play with your toys? after waiting for play time to finally roll around its just wonderful. have to say firgidaire-hamilton made a fantastic dryer in 1954 finally got to play with mine after a total cleaning and rewire she just goes and goes and goes. hope i still run that well when i get to be her age
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Post# 30094-6/8/2003-18:53 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
Rainy Weekend
MESSAGE: I spent the rainy weekend replumbing, rewiring, reventing, rearranging. The pictures will show you how things stacked up!
I also put some JB Weld in the pinholes of the GE outertub. I'm going to let it dry for a few days and then will see if the old girl is 'seaworthy.'
Plans are to move the Lady Kenmore Dryer / Kenmore 900 Washer alongside the stacked sets. That will leave 24 inches. Ha! Just enough room for a dishwasher.
The former work bench area now is home to the 60 something and 57 Maytags which are hooked up and running, but were covered with boxes and laundry at the moment. Will add pictures when I clean up that wall. If the GE is watertight, it will also go on that wall.
The other side of the island will eventually house the Frigidaire wing. Right now it too is in disarray so no pictures to post.
Hope all of you had a GREAT weekend.
Steve1-18
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/svb14_2003/slideshow?&.dir=/June+2003&.src=ph&.view=t
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Post# 30095-6/8/2003-19:46 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
Sunday Afternoon, Thrift Store find:
MESSAGE: Hi! Dear Club Friend's, I went out to a couple of Thrift Stores on Sunday Afternoon, with a Freind, besides going to do some Retail Shopping and I found a White GE Mini-Basket with the Lint Filter along with the Mini-Basket, for $2.99 for both item's. Now I just need to find a GE Washer with Mini-Wash System to put it in. The Mini-Basket is shaped for the
Curved-Vane Agitator, which I like over the Straight-Vane Agitator Machines. I can't wait to find a GE Washer with the Mini-Wash Cycle to put it in, to check it out, as with the Washer too. "Wish Me Luck" I guess I'll have to go to the Used Appliance Dealer's again to find the GE Mini-Wash Washer. Would anyone happen to know an approx. year of these particular Washer's? I'm guessing around maybe late-70s or early 80s, but I'm not totally sure.
Best to everyone and Big Teddy Bear Hug's, Steve
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Post# 30096-6/8/2003-21:05 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Take a look.... (GENERAL)
MESSAGE: What the hell's the matter with you? First, wtf did Jamie do? Was it his post about his birthday that pissed you off? Or is it just because he is a kid? I know this is a classic appliances website but holy hell, who told you to read my post? I post like once every few days, just live with it. And why would you ask if all Canadians are as smart as me. OMG what the hell does that have to do with anything? I thought this site was supposed to be about classic appliances. Canadians are just as smart as Americans, why would there be any difference? And I think you get your "Whethers" messed up. You said "weather or not its true" I think you meant to say "whether or not its true" And you are impying that I am dumb? HA. Why don't you just leave us alone? A lot of people here obviously don't like reading your stupid, OFF TOPIC posts about me. So just LEAVE ME ALONE!!
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Post# 30097-6/8/2003-21:09 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Redistribute and restart the wash
MESSAGE: You can't just smooth that BS that Bob said. If he implies Canadians are dumb, boy do my parents ever have some stories from their Alaskan cruise.
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Post# 30098-6/8/2003-21:16 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
I think Bob created even more off topic crap than I could provide.
MESSAGE: Every time he blows up, there are tons of posts even more off topic than any of mine. There would have been no reason for me to post this, but now I have to. BOB WIRTH is the only bad, disappointing thing/person I have come across on this great site. Too bad he had to show up. I am normally a forgiving person, but why would I forgive Bob for anything. Look back, he has nothing but shit to say about me. I hope things get back to normal, besides, I have had many people tell me to continue posted regardless of what big, bad BOB says. So too bad Bob, you didn't get rid of me.
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Post# 30099-6/8/2003-21:26 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT:
RE: Don't let this happen to you (stuck in washer)
MESSAGE: I guess that shows you what I know about the newer appliances... The lack of mechanical aptitude can get rather expensive in this case then.
MrCoffee
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Post# 30100-6/8/2003-21:32 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Don't let this happen to you (stuck in washer)
MESSAGE: I guess it would.
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Post# 30101-6/8/2003-21:38 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sunday Afternoon, Thrift Store find: (I got one of those)
MESSAGE: I got lucky when I grabbed mine off the side of a curb! Cleaned it up and plugged it in, and it runs like a champ. Unfortunately, it has some paint splatters on the control panel that I can't remove without scratching it, so I would like to find a new one if possible. My machine has the curved-vane agitator Sacto. I managed to get my mini-basket from a recycler. If you would post a picture of your machine, I can tell you when it was made approximately. Most likely, your minibasket fits a machine made in the mid 1980s if it's white. I believe earlier models had a blue mini-basket, but I'm not sure. Curved-vaned agitators made in the 1960s were usually black, while later models (1970s and later) where white.
You can sometimes find a GE Filter-Flow at a Salvation Army store, or some appliance recyclers may have one. Fewer of them will become available as time passes, and I am sure they will increase in value like old Frigidaires. I plan to move mine with me when ever I find a new place to live, whether or not there is a hookup for a washer. Good luck on finding one, and I am sure its simplicity and ease of repairs will give you many years of enjoyment!
MrCoffee
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Post# 30102-6/8/2003-21:47 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Rainy Weekend
MESSAGE: Steve, congrats on the rearranging. Hmm, definitely MY wall of washers LOL, all front loaders (except when there's a GM Frigidaire in the area). Hmm, which machine will I put that bright light on first. And what is the "All" product, an Oxyclean type of thing??? WHERE do you get such a large bottle of Down Advanced/Enhancer? Nice to see the AEG back in service. I love that machine. And the new Westy that wasn't there when I was there in August.
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Post# 30103-6/8/2003-22:00 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Time Has Come To Sell (I have one of those.)
MESSAGE: A couple interesting things about these machines.
1) They have an action similar to the old Westinghouse top loaders, where the basket moves with each stroke of the agitator.
2) They are belt-driven just like the old Kenmores and Whirlpools, and have a short whine with each stroke.
3) You can pull the fabric softener dispersor, and add place the detergent down the middle of the agitator, just like you would with one of the old Frigidaire Three-Rings!
The clothing doesn't rotate much, but if you place the clothing in loosely, then circulation will be adequate to produce the desired results. They suds very little, so you can add a very good dose of high-sudsing detergent for some real cleaning power! And their capacity is such that they'll almost hold as much as a full-sized machine.
There isn't much to see in these little machines, but their results will surprise you. They are not a classic in any sense of the word, but they *do* share some of the same atributes of the old Kenmores, Whirlpools, and Frigidaires (well, not with the same excitement).
MrCoffee
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Post# 30104-6/8/2003-23:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Take a look.... (GENERAL)
MESSAGE: I should delete this post, but since its soooo ludicrous I leave it here for all to see. Bob please think before you post, this was completely uncalled for.
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Post# 30105-6/8/2003-23:03 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: maniac (Re: Apologies about all this upsetness:)
MESSAGE: I totally agree that everyone should apologize and I certainly think that BOB should be the first one to start them too.
I can't believe what I saw on the Posting's happening like this, instead of being able to read and enjoy everyone's input and especially just be calm with any and all inquirie's and comment's between each other's interest and feelings about if something is or isn't correctly indicated in any or all Posting's.
Let's all just try to keep to the Topic's and Subject's of this Site and all get along, instead of being ready to
"Cut Throat's" {DAMN-IT}...
This has gotten into looking like a Pre-School of Kid's, instead of Younger and Older Adult's with all of this
"Mud-Slinging" and let's keep the Profanity out of the Site from now on as well, even without even any kind of Abbreviation's.
So now I've put my own 2-Cent's worth in to this too and hope that someone will "Grow-Up" and just keep quiet, if they don't have something nice to say or comment about.
Regrets, Steve "SactoTeddyBear"
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Post# 30106-6/8/2003-23:09 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: maniac (Re: Apologies about all this upsetness:)
MESSAGE: Well said Steve. I am sorry about my comments on this site. That doesn't change how I feel about what Bob said, but I am sorry that everyone had to read the rift between me and Bob. A piece of advice, if someone has a problem with something I do/say, please do e-mail me. There is no reason to "show off" keep the arguments private please. I don't want to dig myself a deeper hole, so please e-mail me.
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Post# 30107-6/8/2003-23:13 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: maniac (Re: Apologies about all this upsetness:)
MESSAGE: Thank you Kurt, that was very nice to read, I don't blame you for being angry, sometimes its hard to tell who is the 15 year old and who is the 40 year old. Anyway, I know I can speak for 99.9% of the club members who are thrilled to have the kind diversity that classic appliances has, be it age, nationality or what ever else. Speaking of nationality, to show our appreciation of our Canadian members, tomorrow's picture of the day will be in honor of our friends to the north.
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Post# 30108-6/8/2003-23:36 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
An Empty Basement
MESSAGE: In preparation for our move I had to clear out the basement and leave a washer and a dryer to sell with the house. Since we wont be closing on our new house for until the end of the month this is what I will be washing and drying in for a while. The washer was found about two years ago on a St. Paul street and Greg just found the dryer for me behind Lowes in Omaha. Thanks Greg, the dryer seems to work fine.
Oy, I just can't seem to get used to doing only one wash load at a time!
Oh and don't even ask me about the new dishwasher, I have never seen such a poor performance in all my life.
LINK: http://classicappliances.com/TEMP/Empty.jpg
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Post# 30109-6/8/2003-23:52 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
'57 maytag ad?
MESSAGE: Take a look at this maytag. In the picture it seems it has the float water level control/lid switch. But the console and controls look like it would have the typical air pressure water level control. I can't figure out which one it has.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3612537665&category=13596
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Post# 30110-6/9/2003-00:09 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: '57 maytag ad?
MESSAGE: Kurt, I believe the buttons on the left say "Save Suds" "Drain Suds" "Regular Fabrics" "Modern Fabrics" and of course Hot-Warm-Cold on the right.
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Post# 30111-6/9/2003-00:51 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: '57 maytag ad? (Re: Actuator on Lid:)
MESSAGE: Hey! Kurt, if you look real close at the part of the Lid, just above the Woman's Hand, see the Pink round Dial? That is the Water Level Control and it sets the Black "Button-Like" piece sitting down behind the Water Level Controller in and out to allow the Washer to fill at the requested levels. The
Push-Button's on the Left are either as mentioned by Unimatic1000 as Suds and Fabric Selections, etc. and the Right Push-Button's are for Water Temp Selection. See the Chrome top of the Agitator? Some of the Washer's of that era had a removable Float-Tube in the center of the Agitator, similar to that one, except the Chrome Top Float in this E-Bay Advertised Washer had the Float I believe set onto the top of the Agitator with a Suction-Like Rubber under Seal that is attached to the Chrome Float and the Agitator and is a stretchable/flexible substance and it raises with Air Pressure to allow the Float to rise and touch the Rubber Button and stop the Filling and start the Agitation. The other Model's that have the separate Float insert operates the same way of Air raising it to the Rubber Button to stop the Water Filling and start the Wash action. Inside the 2-piece Lid there is a set of Mercury Tubes with parts of Wire inside, but not quite touching each other. When the Float rises and touches the Rubber Button,the Mercury Switches inside the Lid tip towards the other direction that they were in while Water Fill and the Mercury inside closes the Circuit to start the Agitation as with in the Fill direction, they allow the Water to Fill. They used to use this similar set-up in house Thermostats to turn On and Off the Heat/Air Temp Setting, until they started finding out how dangerous that Mercury was to work with. I hope that you understand how I tried to explain this for you and I hope that this doesn't create problems with certain people, thinking that I'm a "Know-It-All" because I'm just trying to help someone "Younger" to understand about something that was before their time of how a particular action of an older Washer Filled and Started the Agitation. Maybe I'm being sarcastic, but after everything going on lately, I'm not wanting to step on "Toes" and I certainly don't want to be trying to talk about something that I might not know about. That is why I wrote my input about this, because I have worked on similar Washer's and one of our Relatioves happened to have one of the other Similar types of Washer's with the separate Float part inside the Agitator. Their Washer was the Flat-Top Maytag "AMP" with the Timer and Water Temp Controls on the
Top-Front of the Washer. OH, how I wish I had that beautiful 1950 Maytag "AMP" Washer, but my Relatives traded it in for a newer Mid-60s Maytag A-606 Washer.
My best to everyone and Big Teddy Bear Hug's, Steve
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Post# 30112-6/9/2003-02:09 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: '57 maytag ad? (Re: Actuator on Lid:)
MESSAGE: Thanks Steve and Unimatic! I knew the "flat top" Maytags had that mercury switch, but I thought that once Maytag switched to the console styling, they switched the water level sensing system to today's type. I guess not until a few years later. BTW Steve, we are talking about vintage washers here so there shouldn't be a problem. I hope not anyway...
I have seen those Maytag AMP washers. For whatever reason, they remind me of a compact washer. They are pretty cool to look at though.
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Post# 30113-6/9/2003-03:10 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: '57 maytag ad? (Re: Actuator on Lid:)
MESSAGE: Hey! Kurt, we seem to be just missing each other checking out the Posting's, what a laugh!!!
By the way, I forgot to mention, unless I'm wrong, I believe that the Maytag's like in the E-Bay listing are an "AMP" as well, but they naturally came out with a Console, instead of the "Flat-Top" original "AMP" Model's.
The original "Flat-Top" and I think the later ones with a Console had the Perforated Tub, but it was inside an outer Solid Tub, right next to the Preforated Tub and they then had a Larger Outer Tub, similar to the Frigidaire Washer, that the Water was Spun out into, then Pumped out of the Outer Tub. My Relative's "Flat-Top" "AMP" Washer had the Red Agitator and Red Lettering on the Timer and Water Temp Control's. It also had the separate FLoat, inside the Agitator, instead of being attached to the Agitator. There is an identical Washer on display at a local Maytag Dealer. I would love to have one of those or another older Washer, but maybe with the Pressure Fill Water Level Control. I would also love to have one of the Push-Button Mayatg Washer's, like the one that is on the Beverly Hillbilly's and with any of the Maytag Washer's I find, I don't care what Color the Cabinet's are either.
I don't know for sure what year they came out with the Pressure Controlled Filling, but I would guess between late 50s and early 60s. If anyone else knows for sure, I'm certainly curious to what year they made the change too.
Big Teddy Bear Hug's Steve
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Post# 30114-6/9/2003-05:38 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: An Empty Basement
MESSAGE: Well Robert - that was quite an undertaking - I cannot imagine how long it took to move all those machines. It does seem strange to see the basement with only one of each machine.......
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Post# 30115-6/9/2003-06:01 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: '57 maytag ad? (Aunt Julia's Maytag)
MESSAGE: Robert (Uni) had this particular washer. I must say he did a splendid job of restoring it. He even added a switch to defeat the the mercury switches and operate the washer with the lid open.
The washer moved from Minneapolis to Omaha where Greg adopted her. Last summer at the DC convention, there was a similar one in the museum and I remarked what wonderful memories and sentimental value that particular machine had. Greg overheard me and told me he would part with it knowing it would go to a good home.
Last October, I was in the 'neighboorhood' and just happen to be towing a trailer behind (Yeah! Right!). Next thing I knew, there were 5 machines in the back!
One of those was the '57 maytag AMP.
Steve1-18
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Post# 30116-6/9/2003-07:42 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: '57 maytag ad? (Aunt Julia's Maytag)
MESSAGE: Funny thing about that Steve. I understand that completely - because for me the 1956 Norge Timeline provides the same connection to very happy memories of a favorite aunt who was willing to do anything in the world for me. And not just playing with the machine either. Reading, playing games, trips to the park, talking, (the way kids generally don't talk to their parents) forbidden ice cream sodas at the corner drug store fountain, etc... And in fact, she not only understood the fun of washers, she too got a great deal of pleasure out of doing laundry. It was her favorite household activity - she thought there was nothing more relaxing. So, seeing a willing pupil, she proceeded to teach me everything she knew about how to do laundry and do it flawlessly. She always commented "How can people NOT care about their laundry? Your clothes are the first thing people see when they meet you......"
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Post# 30117-6/9/2003-08:10 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: An Empty Basement
MESSAGE: Kinda spooky seeing just one pair of machines there instead of that big beautiful collection.
Man I wish I was buying the house. At least I'd get a Westy FL in addition to Sir F and the Lil' Lady (whose spring has sprung) and not to mention room to have a collection and a home theater.
X-Men and Kenmores? yep
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Post# 30118-6/9/2003-08:59 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: '57 maytag ad? (Re: Maytag AMP)
MESSAGE: Hi all.
I think I might have already asked this before and forgotten the answer, but...
What does AMP stand for in relation to Maytag?
Thanks folks.
Chris.
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Post# 30119-6/9/2003-09:04 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: An Empty Basement
MESSAGE: Hi Robert
That move must have been a big job!
Where are the babies stored now?
At least that Westy has some entertainment potential, I was worried when clicking on the link to your photo you were going to be stuck using a (shriek!) modern (gasp!) washer!
Does Neal still have that Asko to use? Or is his washer packed away too?
Best of luck with it and with your move.
Chris.
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Post# 30120-6/9/2003-09:10 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT:
the pleasure of fresh laundry
MESSAGE: I had better warn you that this isn't vintage-related, but...
We have had a few wet days in a row so I had delayed doing laundry waiting for a sunny day... It didn't arrive so I had to do a few loads in the Asko to catch up. My hubby is not in the least laundry-literate (he is not even allowed to touch the washer except to unload it when finished) so I was very surprised when he walked into the lounge room as I was reading posts here, he said to me "oh, this is so lovely, eighteen handkerchiefs washed, dry, ironed and ready!"
I didn't know he cared...
Chris.
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Post# 30121-6/9/2003-09:46 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: the pleasure of fresh laundry
MESSAGE: Chris, they care about the finished product, just not how you get there, as long as they don't have to do it. We don't even live together yet, and I do everything in my power not to have Allen do any laundry, LOL. It's a much better world that some folks just leave others to handle this stuff!
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Post# 30122-6/9/2003-09:48 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: '57 maytag ad? (Aunt Julia's Maytag)
MESSAGE: She sounds a lot like my mom and grandma. People like that are altogether too rare today. While on one hand it's nice when we have or see things that remind us of them, on the other it's sad that there's not a lot of people in later generations taking their places.
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Post# 30123-6/9/2003-12:02 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
The Pleasure of DIRTY laundry
MESSAGE: Full laundry basket = Happy Jason . Washing machine time!
Empty laundry basket = sad Jason . It's all over until next week :-(
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Post# 30124-6/9/2003-13:22 ||| Mfilip (San Francisco)
SUBJECT:
1925 Roper Stove. i need to know value
MESSAGE: Hi. i've had a 1925 Roper stove, very very good condition, works. owned about twenty years. i need to sell it and don't want to get ripped off on the price. does anyone know it's approximate value?
MFilip@aol.com
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Post# 30125-6/9/2003-13:38 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT:
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
MESSAGE: I am not a happy bear here guys, it seems my Hotpoint 1st edition front loader has a problem. It appears to be missing and skipping cycles, mechanically its ok. I am fearing that the program control maybe on its way out, but please do correct me if I am wrong. The machine is 6 years old, I would appreciate some HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP
Love and big hairy hugz to all Kevin
LINK: http://www.kevinkunsworth.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
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Post# 30126-6/9/2003-13:43 ||| salvoboy (San Francisco)
SUBJECT:
POD - O Canada!
MESSAGE: Thank you for the interesting POD in hono(u)r of our Canadian brothers (and sisters). This was a refreshing lift from the nonsense that took place over the weekend.
Excuse my ignorance, but from the description of the washing action etc. the Leonard seems like an ABC product, right? Can anyone enlighten me on the history of the machine/company? Did they market under the Leonard name in the US as well or just as ABC/Kelvinator? Thanks!
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Post# 30127-6/9/2003-14:11 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT:
Significant's TRYING to HELP with Washday
MESSAGE: Yes,
I to have had a tragedy with my Significant Martin trying to do wash while I was gone to a funeral this spring. He WAS trying to be helpful , but this is what he did.
When you walk into my laundry on One side are my Westinghouse Space-mates that are my everyday washer and dryer,installed under a countertop with a washsink at the end by the washer.On the other side are my Frigidaire Custom Imperial 1-18's that my great uncle gave me. I never use them, except once in awhile when the mood hits me and I want to make sure by running them that their ok.
My 1966 Lady K's are at moms right now until my basements done.
Which ones do you think he decided to use.
What Happened to Martin whilst using them.
What kept me from losing sanity and choking him.
I can visiualize for all what happened in his brain of brains while it's happening to him...He sorted out stuff fine (as usual) and took them from the bedroom to the laundry. After what seemed like an eternity and weighing the pro's and con's of his ability to live; he decided he wanted to use the Frigidaires as they are "SoCool" to him, and I wasn't home so WHY NOT.
He opened the lid to the 1-18 and proceeded to dump in two cups of Cheer a cup of Borateem and a half cup of Clorox into the tub ( he ALWAYS OVERSOAPS STUFF). He loades into the washer the whites and decided that he had some room left(which he does to the Westinghouses as well) so he puts into the washer with all the previous.. four of my GOOD workshirts, and five "just purchased" Marshall Fields $30.00 heavy bath towels which were dark green.
He closes the lid sets the water selector to highest level(as usual) sets the temperature to hot/warm (why he does this confuses me)turns the dial to Regular Wash(good) and goes out to the patio to drink hims some beer and sun hiself for the afternoon (as usual on a nice day).
10 minutes later his beer is gone and needs another. He has to walk thru the back patio door into the laundry to go back into the kitchen. As he steps thru the slider he notices that he's standing in about 6 inches of thick heavy suds and my beautiful 1-18 is chugging out more and more of it with ever pulse of the cone. He hurriedly shuts it off and throws everything in the tub into a laundry basket and throws it out the back patio door.
He then grabs my broom and begins sweeping the excess suds out the doorway as well. Then he goes to his shop in the garage and gets his huge manly 12 gallon "Craftsman Shop Vac" I still give him crap for that too (it's NOT a HOOVER)..and begins to suck up all of the residue and also sucks out the tub of the 1-18. He then gets out the mop and mops up all the remains even moving the 1-18's and the Westinghouses to remove all traces of soap and all shreds of evidence for me to find.
He then reruns a load of cold/cold thru the 1-18 to rinse it out moves them back into place. Resets the Westinghouses under the counter and sets his huge blowerfan in the doorway to dry out the laundry room.
Deciding that the load was too big to hide from the ordeal in just one spot. He devises a plan to fool me (never works)so he takes the whole laundry basket out to his garage shop and uses the water hose in his laundry tub sink to rinse them all out. When he visiualizes that they are indeed ruined, he decides to hide them from me.
My Work shirts end up under a pile of rags and crap in a corner of his shop, the towels he hides in a storage closet in the garage under a pile of rags we use to wash our cars and my whites....
The man had the gumption to go up into the attic and hide them in a box of clothes I havent worn since MC Hammer was on the charts and then shuts up about the whole incident.
I get home Sunday afternoon and he's happily sitting watching his Sports in the den asking me how the funeral went and being all sorts of happy to see me, also all sorts of I love you's were exchanged. Knowing full well that he screwed up I did a check of the house and looked everywhere Last place I looked was my laundry room because well I just diddn't think to look ther first. I walked straight to the laundry room and flung open the door. Looked fine. I smiled as he was sweating like a stuck pig and opened the lid to the 1-18's and their was SOAP RESIDUE under the lid.
BUSTED...
Well that night he slept out on the couch because we had a huge fight over lying to me about everything being ok and for using my washer, and for hiding stuff instead of just telling me the truth.
As the whole story came out the next morning I felt bad for getting angry over a washer but these are my 1-18's No one uses them not even me. And every time he looked at me after telling me in his own words what happened...I laughed so hard my sides hurt.
To sum it up...he only uses the Westinghouse's now. And uses FAR FAR FAR less soap then he thought he needed to. I have drawn up pictured diograms for him to follow. He even uses a measuring cup to make sure...
So that is my laundry tale for now
And Remember...
They will mess up....When you leave em' home.
Yours
Chad
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Post# 30128-6/9/2003-15:36 ||| maniac (Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: maniac (Re: Apologies about all this upsetness:)
MESSAGE: Hi Kurt. I'm sorry I openned my mouth in your defence, and aired my feelings in the room. I should have never did that. If i've caused you any grief, I apologize. To the rest of the room, I apologize for bringing this into the open room . I should have done it privatly in an email. I hope this doesn't diminish the appretiation for vintage appliances that you have Kurt..once again I apologize.
peace
Maniac
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Post# 30129-6/9/2003-15:49 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Significant's TRYING to HELP with Washday
MESSAGE: My gosh,
I always tell everyone who stayed in my house to use the machines but"Do Not Wash My Clothes!"
I like to do my own laundry and I don't like my whites turning all colors but white and my sweaters looking like they had a fight with 5 tom cats who never played with a ball of yarn before!
Great laundry story Chad thanks!
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Post# 30130-6/9/2003-15:56 ||| maniac (Canada)
SUBJECT:
POD.. Ces't magnifique
MESSAGE: Une tres belle machine..mais j'ais jamais vue une come ca. est-ce qui'll a quelqun qui connait quelque chose de cette machine..je vous empris.
Lamoure & Paix
Maniac
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Post# 30131-6/9/2003-17:08 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD - O Canada!
MESSAGE: Yeah, that does look like the ABC. Too bad I can't read/speak french at all:-) That was a nice gesture. I am saving every POD so I can look at them any time, they are so interesting:-)
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Post# 30132-6/9/2003-17:15 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD - O Canada!
MESSAGE: I believe Kelvinator used the name Leonard in Canada, much like Whirlpool uses Inglis. The ABC Corp. made washers for Leonard/Kelvinator, and also sold them themselves under the name ABC-O-Matic until about 1958, when I believe Kelvinator (American Motors?) bought the operation outright and continued to sell similar washers for another 10 or so years.
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Post# 30133-6/9/2003-17:15 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: maniac (Re: Apologies about all this upsetness:)
MESSAGE: Don't worry, things are settled down on this site now. I just like to read about the appliances and the vintage appliances. I do post sometimes and obviously I upset people because my comments aren't vintage enough. Although I like the appliance talk, people talk about other things as well, but I don't feel a need to get mad at them.
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Post# 30134-6/9/2003-17:24 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: maniac (Re: Apologies about all this upsetness:)
MESSAGE: Please, stop beating this dead horse!!! I do not post much because while I love vintage washers, I get annoyed by all of the other petty BS. That being said, lets talk about VINTAGE and move the rest to the sandbox.
To Jason and ALR, room is finished and machines in place; just waiting for the drain line to be connected to the building, then all 4 Frigidaires will be ready to roll!!!
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Post# 30135-6/9/2003-18:11 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: maniac (WOOHOO)
MESSAGE: PULSA PULSA PULSA PULSA PULSA PULSA
I want to revideo your 1-18 because I accidentally recorded Beavis & Butthead over it LOL. no kidding. Right in the middle of the spin cycle... "huhuh huhuhuh huhuh huhuhuu huhuhuh that was cool... heheheh hehehe.."
:-(
I also want to record your Skinny Mini. That must be PHUN.
Do you have a DVD player? I can make you a DVD of the convention. Or a videotape if you don't have a DVD.
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Post# 30136-6/9/2003-18:12 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT:
RE: Significant's TRYING to HELP with Washday (Men what would we do with out them)
MESSAGE: I take it all is ok now between you both, :-) great story, it had me cringeing LOL
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Post# 30137-6/9/2003-19:14 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
1955 Unimatic Comes to Life!
MESSAGE: Hi all - we had quite an exciting and busy weekend around here! Some of the Frigidaire enthusiasts had mentioned that they would like to see a Unimatic mechanism rebuilt so I organized the event and we had a great weekend of hunting, washing and rebuilding fun.
Thursday, Peter and I met Don and Jimmy at the Early, Iowa store I found last summer for another hunting day and found some very neat and rare machines. Jimmy found a Maytag dishwasher from 1968-69 (the first entry by Maytag into the diswasher market) and a 1968 Custom Deluxe Frigidaire washer and matching dryer. Peter found a very cool 1961 Custom Imperial Filtrator with fold-down control panel, Don found a matching dryer to his 1965 Custom Deluxe Frigidaire washer in gas. I brought home a 1968 Westinghouse top-loading washer, another top and controls for my Maytag 906 washer and a very, very rare full-sized Hoover washer and matching dryer from the early 70's made by Blackstone. I have been there three times, once with Jimmy last fall and we missed all of these cool things! It's a good thing we had 4 strapping guys there as we had to remove a window from the building and push them to waiting hands outside! When we got back to Omaha Thursday evening we were joined by Robert (uni) and Rich (golittlesport) for a fun driveway inspection of all our new finds and the beautiful 56 GE washer Robert brought to play with.
Friday we did some more washer play in the driveway and then got to work on the unimatic mechanism from my 1955 Imperial washer. We tore the whole thing down and put the parts to soak for a few hours while we watched some Frigidaire training filmstrips from the 1940's & 50's.
Saturday morning we hit a few dismal estate sales and came back to put the mechansim back together again. Within a few hours we had it finished and back in the machine running like a top. We gave it a test run, or 10 and it worked perfectly. After lots of washing and work, we had a great Chinese dinner while watching some great vintage commercials on DVD.
We had a lot of fun and shared lots of appliance stories and laughs all weekend. Thanks to all for a great weekend and your help with the fabulous 1955 unimatic washer!
I've posted pictures that Peter and I took over the course of the weekend, there is a secondary album with the unimatic pictures. Unfortunately I couldn't take many pics of the actual disassembly and rebuilding of the mechanism as my camera battery died Thursday afternoon and needed replacing. We still got lots of great pictures between us and I'm sure we'll be seeing more from the other guys as well.
Hope everyone had a great weekend - Greg
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst?.dir=/June+2003&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/
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Post# 30138-6/9/2003-19:17 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: An Empty Basement
MESSAGE: It certainly looks like you'll have a sad appliance life for the next few weeks...could be worse I guess - you might have gotten the matching washer to the GE dryer!
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Post# 30139-6/9/2003-19:30 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: maniac (Re: Apologies about all this upsetness:)
MESSAGE: Like I said, you should've emailed me. There was no reason to say that on here.
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Post# 30140-6/9/2003-19:35 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1955 Unimatic Comes to Life! (What washer is this)
MESSAGE: I don't recognize the washer next to the Maytag DW.
What brand/model is that?
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/June+2003&.dnm=61+CI+Filtrator.jpg&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp%3f.dir=/June%2b2003%26.dnm=westy%2bwasher.jpg%26.src=ph
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Post# 30141-6/9/2003-19:37 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1955 Unimatic Comes to Life! (nevermind)
MESSAGE: I should've just kept going. It's a westy. That's rare
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Post# 30142-6/9/2003-19:38 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1955 Unimatic Comes to Life! (nevermind)
MESSAGE: I should've just kept going. It's a westy. That's rare
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Post# 30143-6/9/2003-19:50 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT:
Significant's TRYING to HELP with Washday
MESSAGE: Yes,
Things are just perfect...as I said It's just a washing machine incident albeit somewhat funny. I would have been dissappointed in him for hiding the ruined clothes if it had happened in the Westinghouse's. But he knew my phrase "The Frigidaire's are a nono". That was the real issue.
Significants hide small things from each other all the time...It's just that when a sane and responsible person errs like that purposely, when there is no reason or need to...well there is just no excuse for that.
Martin has used them since In fact I let him use them last Saturday because he HAD to show his mom how they worked, after questioning him as to why we needed TWO washer and dryer sets.
She hasn't been to our new house since we bought it last summer...THANK YOU HESUS...And Thank god he diddn't tell her about my LadyK's. I told her that they were my Great Grandma's and couldn't bear to part with them.
Anyway, she just couldn't get over all the woodgrain and chrome and the beige paint I thought the woman was gonna faint. I wont tell you what she said the pulsing reminded her of. Of course I would expect nothing more from an ol "Hippie turn Yuppie".
Anyway...Marty...he's a keeper just like my 1-18's and most importantly It's an "inanimate" he's "animate". I could technically find another Frigiaire...you can't find a Significant like my Marty every day.
All for now
Chad
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Post# 30144-6/9/2003-20:43 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1955 Unimatic Comes to Life! (Unimatic Comes to Life)
MESSAGE: Whoooa Guys
You all got some great collection. I wish I could have been their. I never realized blackstone made hoover washers.
Happy Washing and Jetaction
Peter
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Post# 30145-6/9/2003-21:00 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: An Empty Basement
MESSAGE: Robert, at least I'll always have memories of that wonderful basement and pictures to document it too. Hopefully the new basement will be even larger, accommodate more machines connected simultaneously, and space for even more machines.
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Post# 30146-6/9/2003-21:09 ||| tumbleaction (North Las Vegas, NV)
SUBJECT:
Canadian Detergents
MESSAGE: Back in the 80's when I was studying in Canada, I noticed several brands that we don't have in the US, such as Sunlight, Arctic Power, and ABC. Are there any Canadian detergent freaks out there who can give me the spin on Canuck suds?
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Post# 30147-6/9/2003-21:32 ||| salvoboy (San Francisco)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD - O Canada!
MESSAGE: Thanks Scott. You're always so kind and helpful. :-)
I may have answered a bit more of my own question with a quick online search. The link below gives some more scoop on Leonard and Kelvinator if you or anyone else is interested.
LINK: http://www.homestead.com/amchistory/files/amchistkela.html
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Post# 30148-6/9/2003-22:07 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1955 Unimatic Comes to Life! (YAY for pictures)
MESSAGE: YAY, wonderful pictures Greg and Peter. Thanks again for a wonderful weekend, it was so very nice to see everyone again.
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Post# 30149-6/9/2003-22:10 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: An Empty Basement (Bite you're tonge)
MESSAGE: Shutter the thought! The dryer works, but it seems to want to dry for an hour longer than it should on the automatic cycle, oh well, if timed cycles were good enough for 1953, they are certainly good enough for 2003.
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Post# 30150-6/9/2003-22:28 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT:
the use of bluing
MESSAGE: Hi everyone! I was just wondering, as I laundered my sheets in the 61 Whirlpool;am I the only one around that still uses bluing for white sheets? I can't recall anyone talking about bluing before.It really gets the sheets bright white! I have used it for years.Never bleach.Bleach yellows after a while.You have to be careful when using bluing,as it can streak the material if not mixed well.I mix it with water in an old fruit jar,then slowly pour it in the Magic-Mix filter as the washer is running on the final rinse.I then stop the machine for 5 minutes or so.It's cool how it turns the water blue! Then restart the machine and let it finish. I have also used it in my 66 G.E. Filter-Flo,pouring it in the filter tray.The stuff is not expensive,and it works great. I use Mrs. Stewarts brand because it's a liquid type. Best to all of you! (-: Rick R.
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Post# 30151-6/9/2003-22:40 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT:
RE: An Empty Basement (GE auto-dry setting)
MESSAGE: If that dryer is akin to my GE/F&P, the auto cycles do tend toward the dry side. Try setting it toward the less dry end of the scale, even to the point of just barely catching the heat portion before the cool-down begins . . . depending on your preference for dryness.
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Post# 30152-6/9/2003-22:59 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
55 Unimatic comes to life
MESSAGE: Hi Guys
What a great experience seeing a Unimatic tranny being rebuilt! That beautiful machine purrs like a kitten now. Thanks to everyone there for making it suck a fun event....and especially Greg for hosting! Here are a few more pics. Sorry I didn't get more of the rebuild. I intended to document it step by step....but once we got going I was so involved in what was going on I forgot to take pics. I also missed taking a pic of the Hoover set! How did I do that? And I also want to know who took a pic of me with my head in a dryer!? Ha ha....better my head in an electric dryer than a gas range.
Rich
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/golittlesport/lst?.dir=/unimatic&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/golittlesport/lst%3f%26.dir=/unimatic%26.src=ph%26.view=t&.view=t
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Post# 30153-6/9/2003-23:33 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Canadian Detergents
MESSAGE: Ahh, sunlight and ABC, sunlight is big here. We use their dishwashing and dishwasher detergents. They also make laundry detergents and probably fabric softener. (we use tide for laundry though) I don't know anything about ABC, all I know is that I've heard of it, we never used it.
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Post# 30154-6/9/2003-23:47 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1955 Unimatic Comes to Life!
MESSAGE: Hi Guys, I would say that the appliance gods were all looking down on you guys this past weekend and smiling. What wonderful finds. Glad that you all found some neat machines. That Westinghouse top loader is really neat Greg. I have never seen a Hoover Washer and Dryer like those. Glad you had a great time. Terry
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Post# 30155-6/10/2003-01:18 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD.. Ces't magnifique (Re: Reply of Sunday/Monday's Posting:)
MESSAGE: Hey! Maniac, would you mind please to translate what you said, to be able to share it with everyone?
I could get some words possibly figured out, but I would really like to know what you said in your comment's and I'm sure that everyone else would love to know as well.
Big Teddy Bear Hugs, Steve
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Post# 30156-6/10/2003-04:53 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1955 Unimatic Comes to Life!
MESSAGE: Wow, I already had fun watching the pictures, I can only imagine what a great time you all had. Great catches there, some nice washers and dryers saved from the shredders again. Thanks for sharing the pictures,
Louis
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Post# 30157-6/10/2003-05:05 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: 55 Unimatic comes to life
MESSAGE: Wow - Looks like quite a fun weekend. Almost makes me want to move to the upper Midwest so as to be closer to the action. Even if the sales were dreadful, I would say that you guys pretty much hit the mother lode (or load) with those finds.
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Post# 30158-6/10/2003-06:17 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1955 Unimatic Comes to Life! (HOOOOOVER!)
MESSAGE: Oh Yeah!
Love your Hoover Ganski!
I can see that it is a very close relative of our Hoover. Ours had a Blue Control panel and White Knobs/Buttons, and the lint filter was more like that on the Westy than the right angle thing on your Hoover, but other than that, the same!
I have an advertisment for the Hoover 565, TOL from the early seventies, should post it, Ohh Wait a minunte, its in my choice album.
LINK: http://au.photos.yahoo.com/bc/arrrooohhh/vwp?.dir=/Choice+1971&.src=ph&.dnm=Hoover.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//au.photos.yahoo.com/bc/arrrooohhh/lst%3f%26.dir=/Choice%2b1971%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 30159-6/10/2003-06:37 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD.. Ces't magnifique (Re: Reply of Sunday/Monday's Posting:)
MESSAGE: here ya go saco ... I could also Translates Imperial bobs into french if you like LOL
I am from a very french canadian family. I thought it was so appropos to have a french POD
Philippe
" Very beautiful machine. But I never seen one like this. Is there someone who knows something about this machine I would appreciate it "
Love and peace
Maniac
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Post# 30160-6/10/2003-06:54 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD.. Ces't magnifique (a kinda translation)
MESSAGE: From my limited Cajun reportoire
Une tres belle machine..mais j'ais jamais vue une come ca. est-ce qui'll a quelqun qui connait quelque chose de cette machine..je vous empris.
Lamoure & Paix
One beautiful machine. I want one like that.
Love and Peace(?)
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Post# 30161-6/10/2003-06:55 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD.. Ces't magnifique (a kinda translation)
MESSAGE: oops. I couldn't translate the 3rd sentence. sorry
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Post# 30162-6/10/2003-06:56 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD.. Ces't magnifique (a kinda translation)
MESSAGE: oops. I couldn't translate the 3rd sentence. sorry
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Post# 30163-6/10/2003-07:13 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: 1955 Unimatic Comes to Life! (Hoover and Westy)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg
Your photo of the Hoover washer confirms it - the Aussie Hoovers are of Blackstone origin. When did Blackstone close up? I am wondering if the plant to manufacture those washers was shipped to Australia after Blackstone closed up shop.
That transmission, pump, the shape of the outer bowl with that angled hose connection, it's all "Aussie Hoover".
There were several revisions of that machine, in order:
-500 series - first Aussie series. Very like yours, with blue control panel, white knobs/buttons. Perf tub but spin/drains. (spin increases in speed slowly due to slippage in clutch at base of transmission.)
- 600 series - changes -> neutral drain by a giant pressure switch underneath which engages a brake on transmission outer, causing clutch to totally slip till tub is empty, then pressure switch disengages and spin starts (very unreliable system) Beige control panel with khaki insets, panel is higher around timer and lower around temp/level switches.
-700 series - what hubby had when we met, my fave of the series - plastic outer tub, improved bearing/seal, electric pump instead of belt driven pump, OOB switch deleted and clutch made softer grip so machine will always spin at least a bit even if OOB, but will spin slower if off balance.
-800 series - the rot begins - new top transmission/agitator shaft, now short shaft. (older ones, shaft and spin tube went to above water level, newer ones have short shaft - when seal wears, water leaks into trans).
-900 series - further cheapened, plastic top panel and lid, now rear-hinged.
After the 900 series, the same cabinet was retained but a whole new insides, a dreadful design based on a copy of cheap Japanese machines. A transmission with plastic gears, etc. A bad day. I believe this co-incided with Hoover Aus being taken over by Maytag, who kept Aussie Hoovers as the cheap line and had US imported Maytags, Norges and Admirals as the top lines.
Greg if you need any parts (apart from 110v electrics) let me know and I can probably get them for you. They are VERY common here, one of the most popular machines. New and used parts both easy to get.
The Westy TL is also very similar to its Aussie equivalent. The one I did up some years ago looks almost identical except it had knobs not buttons for water temp and level. It was badged "Westinghouse by Email". It now washes horse rugs for my brother-in-law.
Best Wishes
Chris.
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Post# 30164-6/10/2003-07:52 ||| mobilemaidbear (Tampa)
SUBJECT: Memories of my Aunt and Her Kenmore Rotorack DW
MESSAGE: I recently went to visit an elderly aunt of mine who lives in AL. My cousin and me were dynamic duo of trouble!! My aunt has one arm due to an accident. My cousin and I would often wait for her to do to bed and then steal the artificial arm to play with, harass the dog and cat ect. My aunt and uncle are well to do with a live in maid. They always had nothing but TOL Lady Kenmore appliances, well one night we decided to play a joke on the maid. We placed the artifical arm in upper rack of the the Lady Kennmore roto rack dishwasher avacado,rotated to the back and closed the door in preperation for the maid to load it the next morning. You should have heard the scream at 7am!!
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Post# 30165-6/10/2003-08:24 ||| Fs178 (New York)
SUBJECT: 1950-60 caloric range
MESSAGE: HELP, I am looking for information on how and what has to be done to properly connect and use this old stove. This is the situation. the stove was in my home when i bought it, hooked into a propane gas supply. I now want the stove to operate using natural gas. Once hooked up to natural gas the stove lights but does not increase flame when you turn the knobs for the burners. Does anyone out there know what has to be done to adapt this stove to natural gas operation? Please e-mail any information to fs178@mail.com. THANK YOU!!!!
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Post# 30166-6/10/2003-08:39 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: An Empty Basement
MESSAGE: Hi Chris,
You're right that Westy does has a bit of entertainment potential but the light needs to be moved from the bottom of the tub opening to the top, as soon as it gets sudsy it covers the light and it gets dark in there. Sort of like a thunderstorm!
No all the 220 volt lines have been taken out of the basement so no more Asko for Neal. Although it really doesn't matter, he's used it twice in nine months. He says its easier to just place things down the laundry chute and they get washed, dried and folded truly automatically. :)
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Post# 30167-6/10/2003-12:23 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: POD.. Ces't magnifique (Re: Reply of Sunday/Monday's Posting:)
MESSAGE: I tried running it through BabelFish. The first part "a very beautiful machine" came through, but the rest got mangled. Is there some sort of local dialect involved?
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Post# 30168-6/10/2003-12:43 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD.. Ces't magnifique (MERCI!)
MESSAGE: Thanks for properly translating it. I got the first sentence almost right at least.
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Post# 30169-6/10/2003-13:35 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: POD.. Ces't magnifique (Re: Reply of Sunday/Monday's Posting:)
MESSAGE: non, non, une foix en englais cest asser...lol. In english, Once in english is enough, now can we take about something more interesting " Vintage dishwashers " LOL Have a great day everyone.
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Post# 30170-6/10/2003-17:35 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: sactoteddybear
MESSAGE: I waited for you for a long time @ yahoo, I need info from you.
a bear in need
LINK: http://www.kevinkunsworth.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
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Post# 30171-6/10/2003-19:34 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: Flair range on E-Bay
MESSAGE: Looks really nice, never seen the smaller one before
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2328163846&category=20712
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Post# 30172-6/10/2003-19:48 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Flair range on E-Bay (and it has the rotisserie!)
MESSAGE: Wasn't there an episode in Bewitched when Samantha or Endora put Darrin in the rotisserie of their Flair?
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Post# 30173-6/10/2003-20:27 ||| JAKINS (Kissimmee, Fl.)
SUBJECT: The westy is water tight
MESSAGE: HI guys
After a long fight with the speed control I finally got it. she has all new hoses and belts. Water test was today and she passed with flying colors. next big job is paint I will hire this out. One Question for you guys that own these. Is it normal for the speed control to get so hot? I know thwt there is alot of friction in that small space I just need to know.
I am not used to refurbishing anything but vintage dishwashers, and I must say they are a lot easer than this has been. however this is still alot of fun. sorry no pics on the dryer yet however it has been converted to 110v and new wireing and all is fine.
Talk soon john
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/jakins2001/vwp?.dir=/GENERAL+ELECTRIC+DISHWASHER&.src=ph&.dnm=she+is+water+tight+and+tumbling+strong.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/jakins2001/lst%3f%26.dir=/GENERAL%2bELECTRIC%2bDISHWASHER%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 30174-6/10/2003-20:41 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: The westy is water tight (YaY John!)
MESSAGE: Great Job John!
You really worked hard on this set! It looks great!
I am sure it will pay off with lot's of fun washing!
Thanks for the pictures!
Brent
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Post# 30175-6/10/2003-23:38 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: Re: Post just left on Sandbox for those interested:
MESSAGE: Hey! Dear Club Friend's, I just Posted some info other than Appliance info on the Sandbox, that I wanted to share with those of concerned or interested and I wanted to place this Post to let those know who might be interested. It is something sent to me from a dear Friend, about an update about Same-Sex Marriages.
I didn't want to get any Noses out of place, by Posting something here that should go onto the Sandbox Site and possibly start another round of wrongful discussion's on the Classic Appliance Posting Site area.
Peace, Love and Big Teddy Bear Hug's, Steve
P.S. By the way, I've often wondered why the "Sandbox" Site wasn't named "Soapbox" instead. Can anyone let me know why, I thought that it would have been more appropriate given that it pertains to Appliances, especially Washer's and Dryer's.
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Post# 30176-6/11/2003-00:08 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: The westy is water tight
MESSAGE: Your Laundromat looks fantastic - welcome to the "Scrubbing Dome Club" and enjoy your labors, what a neat machine.
I haven't noticed any increased heat in mine although I would think a little would be somewhat normal. I read in one of the service manuals from Westinghouse that the fluid can be drained from these and replaced (with Westinghouse gear oil...probably similar to auto-tranny fluid) which could help. You might also check the belt tension, if they are too tight, it might be working too hard to turn the drum.
Best wishes, Greg
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Post# 30177-6/11/2003-00:11 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Canadian Detergents
MESSAGE: Nmaineman36 can, he's a canadian detergent freak. Really likes some of the brands.
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Post# 30178-6/11/2003-00:15 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: An Empty Basement (GE auto-dry setting)
MESSAGE: I had to do the same thing with my 1978 GE dryer with electronic dry control. Med fabrics was only used for towels. Everything else got light/less dry or just as Glenn described.
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Post# 30179-6/11/2003-00:20 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1955 Unimatic Comes to Life! (HOOOOOVER!)
MESSAGE: Thanks - the Hoover set is a fun catch. The tub of the Hoover looks remarkably similar to the Westy t/l, probably sourced from the same company.
The Hoover washer won't agitate but spins and works ok otherwise. Will have to investigate later when I have time, I have some moving around to do just to be able to get around out there let alone work on the new babies. I kept thinking that once everyone took their machines home, there would be lots of room, but there are six more for a grand total of sixteen now!
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Post# 30180-6/11/2003-00:26 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Memories of my Aunt and Her Kenmore Rotorack DW
MESSAGE: Well Phil, that doesn't surprise me in the least you were quite the little dickens when you were growing up. Cute story. Glad to see you post again. Don't be such a stranger. How's the new house coming along???
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Post# 30181-6/11/2003-00:29 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1955 Unimatic Comes to Life! (Hoover and Westy)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the rundown of Aus. Hoover history - I'm not too familiar with Blackstone's history here, I would imagine they were gone in the early 70's as were several other "classic" designs by that time. I don't have any service literature or parts info on later model Blackstones so your help will be much appreciated when I set about restoring that machine. We found that it won't agitate except for very short (maybe 10 degree) strokes, but spins and works OK otherwise. Trying to remove the agitator, we broke the cap screw off in the post so that will have to be dealt with as well. Thanks for the offer of parts help, I'll probably be needing them it looks like!
Surprisingly, the Westinghouse washer worked fine when we played with it, needs a new water valve, but other than that, it's ready for cleaning and wash-play. I doubt I'll move it downstairs as I'm totally out of room, but a good garage washer nonetheless. It does use a frightening amount of water!
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Post# 30182-6/11/2003-00:39 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Coin Operated Washers (lint bags)
MESSAGE: My roommate's brother had a Kenmore dryer that DID use some kind of bag for the lint like a vacuum cleaner. Don't know how old it was, I saw it in the 70's
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Post# 30183-6/11/2003-01:01 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Workin onthe Westies (Belt slippage during spin)
MESSAGE: The other exception is belt-drive Whirlpool/Kenmore where the belt does NOT slip during spin, the "slipping" being endured by the clutch faces on the basket drive.
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Post# 30184-6/11/2003-01:08 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Redistribute and restart the wash (Imperial Bob & Kurt)
MESSAGE: What the heck did poor Kurt to say to get that kind of response? Uncalled for.
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Post# 30185-6/11/2003-01:22 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Coin Operated Washers (Lint Bags:)
MESSAGE: Hey! Dear Club Friend's, I had a late 60s Slanted-Front Westinghouse Dryer that had a Cover-Lid on the Top to open and it revealed a Lint Bag, with a wire running around the outer side of it, that held the Bag in place. It seems to me that the Wire was Spring-Loaded to support it in the chamber and a Seal on the opening side of the Bag, which was Nylon Mesh to Seal it against the opening where the Lint went into the Bag, from the Dryer Drum. If I remember correctly, the Console was like a Backsplash and the Timer was the type that ran across a Ruler-Like Setting, that was flush on the Top of the Cabinet on the right side of the Top and it would jump back to the left to the beginning of the Cycling. It either had a turn Dial or Push-button's for the Temp Seting's, but I don't remember for sure. It might have had Automatic Cycle
Setting{s} too. The Console Background was Blue and Chrome and I believe that the Window was Square and the Drum was Similar to the 1950 Model, like my Parent's had. I don't even remember what happened to it, but I sort of remember where I bought it, not far from where I live now.
If anyone else remember's this Westinghouse Dryer Model, I would appreciate any info of year and maybe any other info.
B-T-B-H's, Steve...
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Post# 30186-6/11/2003-02:07 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: Redistribute and restart the wash (Imperial Bob & Kurt)
MESSAGE: errm oh dear, its all sorted now ;-)
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Post# 30187-6/11/2003-02:11 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Significant's TRYING to HELP with Washday (Trying to help)
MESSAGE: That was the funniest thing I've read in a long time, I was busting a gut! Read it to my roommate and he was cracking up, too.
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Post# 30188-6/11/2003-02:43 ||| Windycitybear (Chicago)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire Timer
MESSAGE: Hi does anyone know where I can have a 1:18 timer re built in the Midwest?
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Post# 30189-6/11/2003-07:31 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Timer
MESSAGE: No pun intended, but have you tried Midwest Timer Service?
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Post# 30190-6/11/2003-07:31 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: An Empty Basement (GE auto-dry setting)
MESSAGE: Hmmm.. Well I'm using a 1981 GE dryer with moisture sensing and I have to turn the autodry a little bit more than medium fabrics. The washer is a Frigemore and towels take about 40 minutes to dry. The washer is spinning correctly, I guess the heat element in the dryer is showing age.
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Post# 30191-6/11/2003-08:19 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The westy is water tight
MESSAGE: Hi John,
I'm assuming when you say speed control your talking about the "Speed Changer" Transmission. I've never actually noticed in mine how warm the unit gets, but I suspect you might be a bit low on oil. Unfortunately those vintage Westy transmissions are permenantely sealed, but you can change they oil. There should be an oil plug somewhere on the outside of the housing. I think you might be able to get more info on this oil change in the Westinghouse Front Loader repair master book.
Yes restoring a washing machine is a certainly a larger, more complicated job than a dishwasher.
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Post# 30192-6/11/2003-08:43 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: An Empty Basement (GE auto-dry setting)
MESSAGE: I've noticed that the auto/sensor setting on the Americana GE dryer is way off - most loads need to be set closer to heavy to get completely dry. Robert's dryer is a temp controlled auto dry which is usually not as accurate as the sensor models. It doesn't surprise me really, coming from the 'new and improved' Genital Electric.
As he said, time dry was good enough for 1953...
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Post# 30193-6/11/2003-09:28 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT: RE: Significant's TRYING to HELP with Washday (tragic...yet ultimately, HILARIOUS!!)
MESSAGE: Chad,
I really enjoyed your account of your sig's laundry trouble- I could relate. I had a few rough experiences when in college with both washers and dishwashers(NEVER, EVER use Palmolive in a dishwasher!!!!) You have a real gift for making a story come to life.
Take Care,
Duane
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Post# 30194-6/11/2003-13:48 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Timer
MESSAGE: Well look what I found...
LINK: http://www.m-t-s.com
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Post# 30195-6/11/2003-14:08 ||| windycitybear (Chicago)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Timer
MESSAGE: No but I will now!! :-)
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Post# 30196-6/11/2003-14:09 ||| windycitybear (Chicago)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Timer
MESSAGE: Oh wonderful, Thanks
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Post# 30197-6/11/2003-14:15 ||| windycitybear (Chicago)
SUBJECT: RE: Significant's TRYING to HELP with Washday
MESSAGE: Oh its only a washer. Forget that old pumper and pump the husband instead!
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Post# 30198-6/11/2003-15:18 ||| gewasherguy (Cabot, Arkansas)
SUBJECT: RE: Redistribute and restart the wash (Imperial Bob & Kurt)
MESSAGE: This is exactly why I no longer post here often. There are alot of interesting topics but the chance of a bitch fight starting seems to loom greatly with certain posts and certain members of this forum. To bad it cannot be more pleasant.
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Post# 30199-6/11/2003-16:07 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Redistribute and restart the wash (Imperial Bob & Kurt)
MESSAGE: I for one am delighted to see young appliance enthusiasts like Kurt here with us and I welcome his (their) posts.
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Post# 30200-6/11/2003-16:16 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Canadian Detergents
MESSAGE: Arctic Power and ABC are made by the Colgate/Palmolive Co in Ontario and are the only 2 detergents in Canada that still have Phosphate content in them (7%). Canadian laws still allow for this reduced amount. Sunlight for years has "boasted" to be phosphate free and is made here. The Tide, Gain, Cheer etc we have here are all from the U.S. and are the same formulation as you have. A few local brands abound such as VIP. We even had a detergent made on the west coast called Vancouver Only, made especially low sudsing for Vancouver's very soft water. I would say the most unique and "vintage" detergent we have would be the Arctic Power.
Eddy
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Post# 30201-6/11/2003-19:17 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Coin Operated Washers (Lint Bags:)
MESSAGE: Steve, friends of mine in Dallas had this dryer, with the ruler type indicator and the square window. Had to be from say 1958 or 1959 on to no later than 1961 or 1962 when they introduced the oval window. I was only about 5 or 6, maybe 7 at the oldest, when I got to play with this dryer. It had auto cycle, which was always used. I was barely tall enough to reach the dial at the back to turn the control and couldn't even really see any detail. I just knew where to move the needle for the auto cycle.
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Post# 30202-6/11/2003-19:36 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Significant's TRYING to HELP with Washday (tragic...yet ultimately, HILARIOUS!!)
MESSAGE: Chad, I loved the story too. If I'm EVER fortunate enough to have a sig, ground rules will be I do laundry and dishes. Might as well do it right the first time rather than having to go behind him and re-do.
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Post# 30203-6/11/2003-19:42 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Significant's TRYING to HELP with Washday
MESSAGE: WOOF!!!!
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Post# 30204-6/11/2003-19:45 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Canadian Detergents (Eddy1210)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the info. Good to see you. Have missed you. Hope you and your machines are doing well, especiallyt he Speed Queens!!!!
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Post# 30205-6/11/2003-22:21 ||| AndrewInOrlando (Winter Park, FL)
SUBJECT: RE: Significant's TRYING to HELP with Washday (Significant's Help With Laundry????)
MESSAGE:
I read this and laughed till I peed. When my ex husband used to try and help with the washing, there was usually nothing left salvageable of the clothes....let alone my Lady Kenmore. It was the only time that machine ever had to be repaired. So I can totally sympathize!! It was even worse when he tried to load the dishwasher!! Did you ever notice that there are just some people who should never be allowed near anything mechanical, especially a vintage appliance!!!
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Post# 30206-6/12/2003-02:47 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: Get Closer
MESSAGE: Hey guys, I own my own chat room on msn. this would be a great chance for you to talk and possibly meet each other, sactoteddybear has all ready made one aqaintance who lives not to far away from him. So if it works for him it can work for you, The room is called A Bears Cave, its in Lifestyles, on www.msn.com all you do is clik on the page numbers accross the page, normally page 4 then scroll down to find the room name
A Bears Cave the room has been open well over a year now. Its does have its own regular visitors, but more the merrier. So come on guys do come and visit us, the room would make a very nice addition to the club site that we all love. The room opens nightly UK TIME at 12 am, and closes till the last man leaves. So come on in guys, its a great chance to talk to the guys real time who leave the wonderfull postings. I hope to see you in there real soon
Love and big hairy hugs to all Hairybigmanuk
LINK: http://www.kevinkunsworth.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
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Post# 30207-6/12/2003-15:13 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: 57 Bendix Duomatic on ebay
MESSAGE: An for a measely $5000 no less...
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3228542425&category=1400
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Post# 30208-6/12/2003-17:23 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: 57 Bendix Duomatic on ebay
MESSAGE: And to add insult to injury, no picture either, but it is shown to be a "private auction" whatever that means.......
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Post# 30209-6/12/2003-19:39 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: 57 Bendix Duomatic on ebay
MESSAGE: A "private auction" is nothing more than an auction that masks the names of the bidders. I'm no expert, but this auction doesn't sit well with me. A new seller, no picture and way too high a starting bid. Sounds almost too good to be true. Does anyone know this person?
-Alex
(Ebay user ID: tecnopolis)
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Post# 30210-6/12/2003-20:07 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: Kurt Dixon & hairybigmanuk
MESSAGE: Please email me at the email address in my profile. I tried emailing both of you and the email link in your profiles bounced back with message user doesn't exist. Thank you. Bob
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Post# 30211-6/12/2003-20:11 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: 57 Bendix Duomatic on ebay
MESSAGE: Gee Greg, your Brenda Bendix must be worth at leawst $8000 then LOL
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Post# 30212-6/12/2003-20:24 ||| jetcirclefill (Pensacola, Fl)
SUBJECT: RE: Redistribute and restart the wash (Imperial Bob & Kurt)
MESSAGE: Did anyone see what Kurt had to say about us on Boards@vacshoppe.com ?
LINK: http://boards.vacshoppe.com/
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Post# 30213-6/12/2003-21:37 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Redistribute and restart the wash (Imperial Bob & Kurt)
MESSAGE: It sounds like she's bitter!
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Post# 30214-6/12/2003-21:41 ||| geoff (Connecticut)
SUBJECT: RE: 1955 Unimatic Comes to Life! (Agitator)
MESSAGE: Greg,
If at ALL posible if you have time or the desire, would it be possible to post a picture of what the agitator on the Westinghouse top loader looks like??? I'm very curious as to it's attributes. P.S. sorry for the delay in pictures guys, I have to wait for my friend Carl to obtain the key to his grandfathers shop so I can take a look at the suspected Easy made Westinghouse. I am waiting anxiously and will post as soon as I can get a look at it :)
Geoff
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Post# 30215-6/12/2003-23:42 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Redistribute and restart the wash (Imperial Bob & Kurt)
MESSAGE: I will explain myself then i'm done on this site. First, I had enough BS with Queen Bob. Second, I felt unconfortable about the sexual references and stories on here. "forget that pumper and pump the husband." Is there a need for that, even I didn't get that off topic. Third, a couple people have been trying to become closer to me than I am confortable with. Besides all that, is my comment not true? I truly do not care if someone is gay, I do care when they think they are any different or better than the rest of us. My opinion on some of the people on here went bad fast. So, I will still read the comments on here and look at the PODs, but I don't want to "get close" to anyone on here. (not only illegal, but very, very discusting.) I wanted to talk appliances in general, that topic changed fast. Sorry if I offended anyone (I am quite sure I offended a lot of people) my comments were not personal. I was just very unconfortable with some people's comments. I get enough sex topics at school and on TV, I don't need them here too. But don't try to change for me, I insulted a lot of you, I am sorry but you won't see me the same again. I will just clear up some misconceptions and confusion, then i'm gone.
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Post# 30216-6/12/2003-23:59 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Redistribute and restart the wash (Imperial Bob & Kurt)
MESSAGE: I second that.
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Post# 30217-6/13/2003-01:34 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1955 Unimatic Comes to Life! (Agitator)
MESSAGE: Hi Geoff - I'm happy to post more pics for you, I took four of the agitator as it's the type that has the regular/gentle combination. Under the larger agitator is a smaller one for gentle action. We didn't try the gentle agitator with clothes, but the action is very gentle even on normal speed.
Best of luck with your find, I'm anxiously awaiting news of the machine too!
Take care - Greg
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/June+2003&.src=ph&.dnm=Normal+Agitator.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/June%2b2003%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 30218-6/13/2003-02:22 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: Kurt Dixon & hairybigmanuk (email )
MESSAGE: kevinunsworth@blueyonder.co.uk
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Post# 30219-6/13/2003-02:29 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: Kurt Dixon & hairybigmanuk (checks out ok )
MESSAGE: Email address checks out ok here, tested fine.
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Post# 30220-6/13/2003-05:11 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: POD GE dishwasher on the far right of the POD
MESSAGE: Sorry all you washer guys but did anyone notice the round dishwasher in the pic ? Does anyone have a few pic's of one of these machines. I would love to get a closer look. Im still on the hunt for a impeller wash dishwasher & any info on this matter would be greatly appreciated. Michael
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Post# 30221-6/13/2003-07:11 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: BETTER & DIFFERENT
MESSAGE: A guy who takes a dead 1951 Zenith TV & restores it to perfect health, IS BETTER & DIFFERENT from most people in the world today. Anyone who rescues a classic appliance from certain death & restores it, is someone who's BETTER & DIFFERENT from most folks. YES, I'd say, generally, Vintage Appliance restoration artists ARE better & different from the general population. We're GIFTED. And Yes, a lot of us ARE GAY, and to ADULTS, that's usually not a problem. THAT'S WHY I do not associate with children under the age of 18. THEY ARE NOT ADULTS & cannot handle a little 'FUN' the way adults can. I thought the 'pump your husband' comment was the best Idea I'd heard that day.
You can't please all the people all the time, but in the long run, we'll see that being BETTER & DIFFERENT will eventually be the thing to be....not ordinary & common. Boring.
I've been better & different all my life, & I'm not gonna stop now. I'm just getting started.
Peace.
B
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Post# 30222-6/13/2003-08:15 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: Today's POD
MESSAGE: I second Mikes comments. What a cool dishwasher. The ultimate in "watching" action. Does anyone know anything about this display? Great selling tool! Much better than those square plastic Maytag displays!
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Post# 30223-6/13/2003-08:43 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD
MESSAGE: And what about that BIG woman hugging the washer? She's gotta be at least 7 ft tall
:o)
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Post# 30224-6/13/2003-08:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD GE dishwasher on the far right of the POD (Clear GE Dishwasher)
MESSAGE: Isn't that clear GE dishwasher wonderful! Boy, what I would do to put that baby into my collecton. It's essentially the late 1940's / early 1950's style GE toploading dishwasher, but a demo model. This photo belongs to Greg (Gansky), I scanned this weekend when I was in Omaha, along with a few others. I believe he said this was from an appliance trade show. Wouldn't it be wonderful if we all could "blink" back in time and go to this show. I post the other pictures during the next few days.
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Post# 30225-6/13/2003-09:05 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD GE dishwasher on the far right of the POD (Clear GE Dishwasher)
MESSAGE: This was an electrical trade show held in Kansas City, MO in 1949. There are more wonderful pics coming, I won three on ebay but was outbid on the Bendix display picture!
I should do some calling, some of those distributors are still around in the Kansas City area - you never know what might be lurking about in their warehouses!
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Post# 30226-6/13/2003-09:53 ||| gewasherguy (Cabot, Arkansas)
SUBJECT: Discontinuing Membership
MESSAGE: Due to the continuing BS and the endless rantings of ImperialBob I am going to discontinue my membership to the forum. My question...Who do I need to be in contact with to do so? An email address would be appreciated.
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Post# 30227-6/13/2003-09:55 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: POD
MESSAGE: Hmmmmmm GE appliances and do I detect water on the floor in the photo??? hhhhmmmmmmmm.
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Post# 30228-6/13/2003-10:20 ||| Radiobill1966 (Indianapolis, IN)
SUBJECT: Parts availability
MESSAGE: I've probably asked this before, but the mind wanders like a drunken monkey :-), so I'll ask anyway:
What do you guys do about spare parts, especially on the older 1950's models? Do you have to cannibalize similar models, or did some of the manufacturers have the good sense to stay with the same mechanical design for 20, 30 even 40 years?
And with those older models, do you have to pay through the nose for vintage parts?
Bill
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Post# 30229-6/13/2003-10:46 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: POD - WATER ON FLOOR
MESSAGE: That's the first thing I noticed. Something's leaking, or else maybe that dishwasher demonstrated what would happen if you ran it with the lid open, as it is shown. The man in front of the machine does seem like he's ducking out of the way quickly...
That's a clear tub GE wringer that large Marge has her hands around there, too. That'd be neat to own as well.
B
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Post# 30230-6/13/2003-11:32 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: RE: Parts availability
MESSAGE: Most of the manufactures used the same basic designs for many years.For instance the Kenmore/Whirlpool belt drives were the same from the early 1950's until about 1986. A few changes were made along the way (some for the worse) More changes were made to control and cabinet design,and of course the timer cycles,than to the mechanical design. I buy my parts from a "mom&pop" type appliance parts/repair store that has been in business since the early 1950's. The owner took over for his father a few years ago.He thinks it is cool that I restore machines,and gives me a great discount.He has different areas of his store for different brands,and had both new and used parts. He even has new parts for the 1950's Fridgidaires!Out in the back is a fenced in area that has older machines waiting for tear down,or rebuilding for resale. (later models) I am sure most citys have places like my favorite appliance place here in Fort Wayne.You just have to look for them,which is part of the fun! Rick R
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Post# 30231-6/13/2003-11:41 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - WATER ON FLOOR
MESSAGE: I'd like to have that automatic washer. Spins at 1140rpm.
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Post# 30232-6/13/2003-12:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Discontinuing Membership (Like Magic)
MESSAGE: There, I just waved my magic wand and POOF you've been discontinued, like magic.
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Post# 30233-6/13/2003-12:43 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD
MESSAGE: Jason, I think it was during this time that the Govt. was doing all the atomic testing. They should make a movie about her and let her ride around in that Fab 1961 Imperial Convert!
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Post# 30234-6/13/2003-12:57 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: This is a great and fun website!
MESSAGE: I want to let everyone know how much I enjoy this web site,and also want to thank Robert Segar for taking so much of his valuable time to create and maintain it. It is not right to see a good thing abused,and spoiled for everone else as a result of the abuse.Some people are never happy,others must feel like no one else should be happy. To those that feel that they must leave this club I say to you: "I am sincerly sorry that it did not work out for you" and "goodby" To the rest of us: "Lets have some fun,and share and learn from each other"
Rick Reader
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Post# 30235-6/13/2003-15:17 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: Violent spin emergency STOP
MESSAGE: Ok guys lets get one thing very clear, no one in this club needs to disapear off this site. Just because people voice an opinion about something or nothing, does not mean a certain someone who we all know has to take down and out strop. Fair enough if its personel ok then an appology has been made to the party or parties concerned, its been said and done now please lets all get back to what was a nice site. I for one respect you all but when it comes down to back biting nastiness and bitching, it showing a very childish streak.
So please guys no more. Thanks hairybigmanuk
Love and big hairy hugz to all
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Post# 30236-6/13/2003-16:02 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse
MESSAGE: (Betty)- I was just telling Fred and Ethel about the wonerful people who are on Applianceville Forum.
(Ethel)- Yeah their great Lucy.
(Betty)- That they are.
(Betty)- But right now for whatever reason persons seem to be hurting everyone elses feelings for a "feeling of bigness" on Applianceville and now we need a "Program Computer Stop".
Lucy)-Whats a Program Computer Stop Betty.."
(Betty)-"Just press that dial and automatically your Program Computer Laundromat will come to a safe stop like this". Clunk,Whir, Whir, Whir,Whir, Whir,Whir, whur,whur,whur,whur Whuuurrrr, Clink.
(Quiet In the Showroom)
(Lucy)-"Gee Betty" Will all of the wonderful appliances to talk about, and stories to tell I don't see how anyone would want to hang onto their blinding meanness and bad habits and inflict them on others.
(Betty)-"I can't understand either".With all these wonderful people at ClassicAppliances who are all unique and have different terms than some. Everyone should just love another toughen their skin and there wont be any hurt feelings.
(Fred)- " ApplianceVille Hurt Feelings Days"- so thats why everyone is so tense about things written at Applianceville at this very moment in time.
(Ricky)- Hey Listen, Hurt Feelings and meanness are prevelent and smarting when a person cannot say.
(Betty)- You can be SURE..That I'm Closeted.
(Ricky)- 22 years I was trying to deny that...Why diddn't anyone believe it.
(Fred)- Because people couldnt understand you as straight.
(Ricky)- See ya later Huh
(Fred)-Si Seniorita.
(Roaring and Clapping from Studio One Audience)
Allright, In all seriousness; my story was retold to you out of the fact that things were becoming entirely too serious on a previous situation that seemed pertty well close to clearing itself up.
However, some persons have gone and made it worse with me. I being my "perky peeon self" felt that we needed to laugh. I have told many persons, including my "Catholic grandparents" that same incident and never once was I ever insulted the way I was when I read "the" post on the "vacuum cleaner site".
And to think that my intention was to help ease and drop situation that would eventually work itself out amongst "FAMILY" and freinds of. I don't consider myself to have been out of line, vile OR disgusting. I never told you about my private bedroom situations, and who honey can i spin some shit that would make ya wet the bed. And yeah so the "forget the pumper, and humpty dumper" or whatever was said was a tad crude and vile; the resulting comments that were made were far worse.
So what if some of us spin a different way then what others do. Some may well spin counter-clockwise and Some spin clockwise so what. What's important is that either way all still get the wash clean no matter HOW we/they/us/them spin.
And that is what "I" was trying to get across when retelling my story. We are ALL human we ALL err and ALL should be forgiven. However some things done SHOULD NOT go without punishment. And if nothing happens as punishment there is one guy I know who will do it in time, and HE really dislikes it when other try to do his job or misinterpet his words. And he lives just above your head and a little to the left.
So now that that's set lets take it home Betty, I am 28 and gay as the 1959 Westinghouse Laundromat Sping Color gala sale and I damn happy to have a hag like Betty Furness and awesome appliance freinds to turn to. And Im glad that I can SHARE my silly story of my "significant" with all of you and will continue to do so in the future if I remember any or the situation arises.
Notice in the blind rush to become "a critic of others" and you begin to point fingers that when you do three are pointin back, give that a minor moment of thought And also too, and never forget this one. Those who felt that they are being offended well "get over it" and toughen up the skin you have. There are far worse things that can be said or happen to all; then a few yappy words and a few light slams by others.
ImeperialBob said "I get better& different all the time" I may have paraphrased but you get it....and when I found this site I became so. So thank you everyone who has been entertained or at least amused by my rantings of what my "significant" or more blantantly my HUSBAND or whatever you will even the SEVERELY muted phrase "homo-lifemate" applies here to those who are meek and mild. I just told you what had happened with OUR washer.
It's just a story...Lighten up.
Damn Canaboy you could ruin a wet dream.
Yours,
Chad
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Post# 30237-6/13/2003-17:05 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: BETTER & DIFFERENT
MESSAGE: They may be different but NOT better. Fortunatly I am not a bigot so I know that everyone is equal in rights and value. NO ONE is better than another person. A straight person is not BETTER than a gay person. A gay person is not BETTER than a straight person. They are different, that is great. Like I mentioned before, I do not care whether someone is gay or straight. And my age has absolutley nothing to do with it. I know a few 50 and 60 year old people who are so homophobic. And it is true, a lot of people my age are homophobic. But I am not, so it is obvious age has NOTHING to do with it. Bob, why is 18 the magic number? Some people aren't really adults until 30, some never become adults. And the reason that I don't want to post on here anymore is simply because I am unconfortable. Unconfortable with people that think adults will always have complete control over kids. Unconfortable with people that think sexual comments have a place on an appliance forum. (Whether the comments are gay or straight, they aren't appropriate.) People are different, people are not better than one another.
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Post# 30238-6/13/2003-17:08 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: This is a great and fun website!
MESSAGE: Contrary to what you implyed, I am almost always happy. Aside from when I have to deal with some of Bullshit Bob's comments. This is a great site, but like you said, it is getting ruined.
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Post# 30239-6/13/2003-17:14 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: Back To Our Show on the "CircleW" Network...
MESSAGE: On a lighter note,
My grandmas Lady K's had these tiny paper bags that collected lint. I'm sure of it. In fact she was so thrifty she would "attempt" to reuse them. She would also do that with her vacuum cleaners. It was under a large porcelain door and the bags looked like a vacuum cleaner bag too. Am I wrong on this?
Leave it to "Westinghouse" for inventing the trend. Since they were so in tune with their cleaners with the Westinghouse "Toss-A-Way" bags. My Convertovac has probably one of the LAST new ones in exsistence on it right now. It just so happened after our Westy dealer was taken over they diddn't re-do the shop portion. About two weeks ago they were and told me that they foun 1 Converto-Vac bag and a filter. I got them for free. And i saved the old one for when I "play" with it and attempt to clean something. Martin says it's ugly and it's kinda homely in it's own right...but then again once you've seen one...you'll never forget it. And once you've used one, you'll never want to change.
YOU can be SURE... If It's Westinghouse.
Yours
Chad
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Post# 30240-6/13/2003-17:14 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Violent spin emergency STOP
MESSAGE: That can't happen. I sure didn't see an apology in Bob's rants and raves. Besides, its too late now anyway. He has too many age old views on life and kids. Listen to this "I cannot talk to or contact anyone under the age of 18." So then someone age 17 the day before their birthday gets all of Bob's disrespect and are treated as children, then "poof" like magic, the next day they can talk to Bob like one adult to another. That is so black and white it is funny. That is a 6 year old view on the situation. There is ALWAYS grey area, Bob can't see grey, so that is why he doesn't want to talk to me LIKE ONE HUMAN BEING TO ANOTHER. Instead he treats me like a piece of garbage that needs to be thrown out. Aside from all that, like I said 5 times, I am unconfortable with some comments on here.
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Post# 30241-6/13/2003-17:21 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse
MESSAGE: Whur, clink.
Not only the comments on this site, but in emails too.
Different, not better
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Post# 30242-6/13/2003-17:50 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Back To Our Show on the "CircleW" Network... (Lint Bags)
MESSAGE: You are not wrong! I saw a 1959 or 60 Kenmore 800 or 900 at a thrift store about a year ago that had this lint collection system. Under the magic door on the machine top was a small pipe that was about the diameter of a vacuum cleaner hose end. This particular machine had a small dirt-devil vacuum bag attached to it with a rubber band. I'm sure the original replacement bags were NLA from Sears, but the vac bag seemed to work OK. It was FULL of lint, but when I plugged in the machine and ran it, the bag ballooned up. It was a curious gimmick for sure!
Including the previously mentioned Westinghouse lint collection bags, "bag" lint filters were used by other manufacturers as well. Franklin dryers in the late 50's, Philco in the mid-50's among others come to mind. These others were more of a "clean at the end of washday" type filters that were re-used, not the toss-away bags of WP/KM type. WP used a lint collection system similar to this type some years back that was good for 100 loads or so, but I'm not sure if it was a direct relative to the systems of days gone by or a new design, only saw one once at Sears on a WP branded dryer. When I was running my electric 89 Kenmore dryer in the garage this winter I made a lint bag from fine mesh (I snipped up that wedding dress I probably won't need ;-) that worked quite well without reducing airflow. There was still a lot of very fine dust that escaped which was a bit annoying, but the added heat in the winter allowed me to work out there on the coldest of days.
Cheers and happy, lint free drying - G
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Post# 30243-6/13/2003-17:54 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - WATER ON FLOOR (1140 in 1949??)
MESSAGE: The 1140 RPM GE design didn't last in production for very long - only a year or so. Can anyone confirm this? Being 1949, it may have been the newer design which spun much slower.
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Post# 30244-6/13/2003-17:55 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Back To Our Show on the "CircleW" Network... (Lint Bags)
MESSAGE: Those Whirlpool models with the 100-load filter didn't stay on the market for very long. I saw one once at Best Buy or Circuit City or some such place. Far as I know (which isn't very far), they used a reusable collection container of some ilk, not a disposable bag.
Perhaps MagicClean can provide further details. :-)
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Post# 30245-6/13/2003-17:57 ||| daveuk (Livingston)
SUBJECT: What the hell happened?
MESSAGE: Well? What the hell happened to the nice friendly atmosphere that used to be here? I haven't posted here in ages (mainly because I felt my opinions weren't particularly welcome, or indeed useful), but I still read here fairly frequently. What I don't need to see is people like ImperialBob bitching about the 'younger members' of the group.
Quite frankly, if Robert were around, I would hope that ImperialBob gets the same treatment that, say, MrBubbles got previously. Some of the people here try hard to be friendly, and it's not easy to stay friendly when your opinion is downgraded to 'useless because you're too young' - well excuse some of us for being younger and interested.
Bob, would you, at age, say, 16 care to have been told that nobody older cared for your opinion because you didn't have enough experience. I dare say you wouldn't, so why should you expect to be able to dish it out. Get a grip man. Oh, and I'm sure a public apology wouldn't go amiss - basic etiquette as I'm sure you know.
Also, to several people, this place isn't a dating agency. I'm sure you don't intend anything by some of your comments, but there are things that could be misconstrued quite easily, and have been by the looks of things. You don't need to put a link to your personal webpage in EVERY post, for example, or invite people to 'get a little closer'. That's not what we're here for. Put your link in your profile.
I'm sure I'll have offended a few people here, but quite frankly I'm beyond caring after seeing some of the crap that's been spewed out over the last week. I'll stick around for a while, but if it doesn't get any better I'll just stop reading here.
D
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Post# 30246-6/13/2003-18:01 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: centrifugal seperator
MESSAGE: I believe that's what you call the round ductwork in the rear of the dryer that causes the lint to fling out the tube and into the collection bag - a centrifugal seperator. When I used that pair of '59 Kenmores now currently found in the beltsville warehouse, that's when I learned about it...
In reality, it means hot steamy air re-entering the laundry studio, and I quickly found this to be unacceptible. I don't dig dryers that wheeze back into the room. It's a display only dryer now...
B
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Post# 30247-6/13/2003-18:28 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: What the hell happened?
MESSAGE: Like i said it would make a nice addition
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Post# 30248-6/13/2003-18:28 ||| kenwashesmonday (Haledon, NJ)
SUBJECT: RE: Violent spin emergency STOP
MESSAGE: Kurt wrote:
"I am unconfortable with some comments on here."
This feeling will either hopefully go away when you grow up, or you could grow up to be a bigot.
When/if you make your next post, please note the Frigidare Queen pictured on the reply page. She is watching you!!
Ken D.
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Post# 30249-6/13/2003-18:39 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Violent spin emergency STOP
MESSAGE: Dictionary definition of "bigot"
"One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ."
I am perfectly fine with gay people. I just don't like it when people make sexual references on an appliance site. There is nothing to justify, you know I didn't like what some people said. I don't know how that makes me intolerant of them, but okay.
Like I said, I don't care if someone is gay, but notice we are on "classic appliances" so that topic should stay off here.
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Post# 30250-6/13/2003-18:45 ||| daveuk (Livingston)
SUBJECT: RE: Violent spin emergency STOP
MESSAGE: Ken, sorry, but I think you're completely off base.
This is an appliances website, a little banter is fine, but some comments go beyond that - and if it's making some of the younger members uncomfortable then they should feel free to state that and not have their heads bitten off.
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Post# 30251-6/13/2003-19:06 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse
MESSAGE: Guys,
Obviously everything I wrote was summararily dismissed, misunderstaad or just plain ignored. I refuse to compete with any of you nor do I wish to. No one here listens to anyone and all we hear when we talk about or to each other is bladdy bladdy blah.
So I here am asking for EVERYONES apology for mentioning my "freind" and for sharing an otherwise funny moment with you all, and can have a YOU CAN BE SURE I won't say a darned thing UNLESS it's CLEAN and pure for all.
I will go back to just posting about washers and watch the big boys battle the field. I pray for you Bob you can handle them...
And on that note, I can't remember what her 59 was like because I was too young.. But I was SURE that her 1975 Lady K's had that filterbag system as mentioned...Am I crazy?
Peace
Chad
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Post# 30252-6/13/2003-19:14 ||| daveuk (Livingston)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse
MESSAGE: Chad,
You're talking about the suds story right? That's not the sort of comments I was tlaking about in my post - there was nothing inappropriate about it, plus it was relevant to other discussion... and funny :-)
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Post# 30253-6/13/2003-19:14 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse
MESSAGE: That's just it, why would I apologize when you are still trying to justify Bob's comments and your comment? It would have been funny had I not been on an appliance forum, and had been on, say, msn lifestyles. There is a time and a place for everything.
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Post# 30254-6/13/2003-19:16 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse
MESSAGE: Oh, was that Chad's comment? I didn't mind the story, I laughed also. There was no problem with the story.
But people talking about getting closer, and about pumping the husband, this is not the place for that.
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Post# 30255-6/13/2003-19:24 ||| daveuk (Livingston)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse
MESSAGE: I'm assuming thta was Chad's comment.
I agree about the others though, as I already said. I am queer, and it made me feel uneasy, so I can imagine how you feel. And this isn't the place for that.
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Post# 30256-6/13/2003-19:25 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse
MESSAGE: Uh White Flag waving...sorry guys...I thought that this whole thing was over me. I must put my head in the Westinghouse and set it to spin.
I was really NOT trying to be nasty. Yeah Im gay but Im not here to exploit or ever discuss that or to make any of YOU feel uncomfortable. I don't even know you except from here. So why would I do that. It just so happens that the situation happened to concern my "preference in person".
When I seen what was written on the other forum you must understand that I was very upset that someone could do such an about face about anyone. I diddn't understand that there was more that what met the eye being said to you. Go me for being human.
You all are great and we should erase about the last week of posts and start again.
I don't want a war with ANY of you and would like to just discuss washers. And seems like now that we are Ironing this thing out some misunderstanding are becoming clean and clear.
So am I cool with all?
Does Applianceville Survive?
Does Laverne Love Shirley ( just kidding)
Yours
Chad
Chad
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Post# 30257-6/13/2003-19:31 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: Back To Our Show on the "CircleW" Network...
MESSAGE: So can we all finally sound the all clear signal?
I hope so...because I have a question about Rinso.
Where did it go, Why Can't I find it, Where is it still sold?
Thanks chad
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Post# 30258-6/13/2003-19:39 ||| alr2903 (new orleans)
SUBJECT: RE: 1955 Unimatic Comes to Life! (Agitator/westy/gansky.)
MESSAGE: Gansky great shots thanks for sharing, Did Hotpoint also have the 2 agiatator design at one time, I thinks theirs was called a Hand wash agitator. Now, this westy would be a westinghouse made before WCI right?. last question Did WCI, just destroy the original westinghouse machine, just as they did the frigidaire. or is todays WCI a close cousin to This nice westy t/l you were kind enough to share with us.
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Post# 30259-6/13/2003-20:38 ||| andrewinorlando (Winter Park, FL)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse
MESSAGE: I really enjoyed your story and hope people will feel free to write about things that are appliance related and funny that involve their friends and family,too!! Who the hell cares if you're gay or straight. It just doesn't matter. We don't owe anyone an apology for being ourselves so long as we're not vulgar here. I'm sure no one would be up in arms if one of you guys mentioned that their "wife was using the washer and....". There are many different kinds of families out there in the world...some we choose, some we don't. Get used to it folks because we should all be proud of the families we've created...straight or gay. Anyone who is uncomfortable with that...get over it because it's all around you if you're not too blind to see it. Just be respectful of others and don't be crass or vulgar. Gay people don't have to be afraid to speak openly of their own families just like straight people; their family just happens to be composed of two men rather than a man and a woman.
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Post# 30260-6/13/2003-21:54 ||| salvoboy (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: RE: 1955 Unimatic Comes to Life! (Agitator/westy/gansky.)
MESSAGE: The Hotpoint did have two agitators. My parents still have an early eighties top of the line HP that has that feature. It actually works reasonably well.
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Post# 30261-6/13/2003-22:20 ||| jonob (New Zealand)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse (Put up or push off)
MESSAGE: I really enjoy this site and am really glad to finally find a group of like minded people who enjoy "vintage appliances". No more feeling like a weirdo for liking Washing Machines. Who gives a damm about the ocassional raw comment that might be a little bit tongue in cheek. Bring it on I say!! If you don't like them don't read them. No point in making comments about it. Good humour...even smutty..is all fun. Don't take things to heart. Lighten up!! If you don't want to be a part of this group because of the ocassional lewd comment,thats fine...your choice. Don't stay somewhere you are unhappy, and don't take another 5 days saying " I am leaving". Lets get on with the reason we are here. Lets all pump!!
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Post# 30262-6/13/2003-23:49 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse
MESSAGE: I'm sorry too, my comment was very general. First, a lot of people on here have good, funny posts that I have a good time reading. I have since changed the post on the other forum (I know that doesn't change the fact that I did it.) I have to learn to think before I say/do something. (That comes with age, I admit it:-)
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Post# 30263-6/13/2003-23:50 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse
MESSAGE: I agree, as I said, I liked his story. I mentioned before what i didn't like. I will just shut up now as many of you want.
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Post# 30264-6/13/2003-23:52 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse (Put up or push off)
MESSAGE: OMG i said I was leaving after I cleared everything up, I think I have now.
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Post# 30265-6/14/2003-00:00 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - WATER ON FLOOR (1140 in 1949??)
MESSAGE: GE made the AW6 models from 1947 thru 1950, for the 1951 line the AW6 was discontinued and the AW5 was introduced which brought the spin speed from 1140 down to 600 something.
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Post# 30266-6/14/2003-00:02 ||| alr2903 (new orleans)
SUBJECT: RE: 1955 Unimatic Comes to Life! (Agitator/westy/gansky.)
MESSAGE: Thanks for that response Salvo, hope your Parents get many more years out of their Hotpoint. I had always thought of Hotpoint as having that, i never realized Westy had that feature until Gansky shared his pictures with us..... Have a great weekend Everyone. Yeah its 12:01 am. Friday the 13th is over......
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Post# 30267-6/14/2003-00:08 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: RE: Back To Our Show on the "CircleW" Network...
MESSAGE: Hi Chad, In ref. to the Rinso,I can tell you I know my grandmother used it in the 1950's. It was in powder form,not a liquid or flakes.Gram. had a green Kenmore Royal wringer washer,not an automatic.I still have the owners manual for washing clothes for the machine,made in 1934. It talks about Rinso all though the manual.I don't think you would want to use this stuff in an automatic.Here are a few quotes from the manual. "Sprinkle Rinso on grimy spots on rompers,cuff edges,collar bands,etc.:roll them up and put the dirtiest clothes at the bottom of the tub first." "Soak for at least two hours in warm water,to give the soap a chance to work." Another reason not to use it: "Use enough Rinso to insure a 1 to 3 inch layer of suds in the machine throughout the washing operation." I can remember grandma with the big washtubs,and she rinsed all the clothes twice,plus a bluing rinse for the whites. I believe a product like Rinso,or soap flakes would spell big time suds lock,and trouble for most any automatic washer.(Maybe a G.E. Filter-Flo would use enough water to rinse all that soap scum out! LOL) My guess is that the Rinso company failed,as automatics replaced the wringer type washer. Anyone else know something more??I have wondered about Rinso for years. Thanks, Rick
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Post# 30268-6/14/2003-00:43 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse
MESSAGE: Chad, personally I'm very disappointed your resolution is this approach. I thoroughly enjoyed your story and it revealed some of what type of person and who you are, to me that's just as important, getting know the various members here. Just like Kirk's stories. I loved them too.
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Post# 30269-6/14/2003-00:49 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse
MESSAGE: Well Kurt, I take exception to your comment about people getting closer. Some of us have met at appliance conventions. We struck up friendships. We email and talk on the phone with each other. We care about each other, particularly since we have such a unique hobby. what is wrong with close friendships developing. There are several people on this site that I know and dearly love. They're like an extended family. And supported me when I was in the hospital for 3 weeks afollowing major surgery and afterwards. what's wrong with that???
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Post# 30270-6/14/2003-00:55 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse
MESSAGE: Well said and AMEN!!!!
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Post# 30271-6/14/2003-01:10 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse
MESSAGE: Absolutley nothing is wrong with close friendship. I may have taken things the wrong way. But the internet still isn't the best way to meet people, I don't know enough about you all through this forum. Plus I have heard enough horror stories about people meeting in chat rooms and such. (I don't think anyone on here is dangerous, but still, I want to be careful about "getting close.")
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Post# 30272-6/14/2003-01:34 ||| jonob (New Zealand)
SUBJECT: today POD of Bendix
MESSAGE: This is the machine my parents had when I was growing up. They had it until about 1977. Was still going strong as Dad was in the business of repairing appliances and they only replaced it as they did up the Laundry. Does any one have a manual or any other info about this machine. It brings back great memories.
cheers
jono
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Post# 30273-6/14/2003-01:46 ||| boschboy (Portland, OR)
SUBJECT: Let's just get along
MESSAGE: I seldom post, and when I do, I admit that I'm rarely right. But for the sake of our common denominator, let's just try and get along.
We're all here for the same reason. It doesn't matter WHO we are, but the fact that we all have an interest in vintage appliances...well, that makes us a group. Let's not center on our differences; let's remember what brought us here together in the first place.
I have so enjoyed the posts from every one of you. Please don't let minor differences get in the way. If not for those we'd all be the same. How interesting would it be if every post was from the same person?
Cheers to you all,
BoschBoy
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Post# 30274-6/14/2003-06:04 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Back To Our Show on the "CircleW" Network...
MESSAGE: Well, there is much more to the Rinso story than that. Rinso was made by Lever Brothers, the same company that makes today's Wisk, All, Surf (and formerly made Breeze and Silver Dust Blue). Rinso, like most washday powders was originally introduced as a soap powder - remember that heavy duty detergents were not introduced until the late 1940's. That's why the instructions in your Grandma's washer manual talks about maintaining a layer of suds. When washing with soap powder, the layer of suds indicated cleaning ability and as they diminished, you needed to add more. Synthetic detergents can clean without a lot of suds. Rinso continued into the 1950's as a soap until aorund 1954 or so. Then it split into two products - Rinso White Soap and Rinso Blue Detergent. Yes, even with the introduction of synthetic detergents, there were still people who used soap (Ivory Snow, Ivory Flakes, Duz, Instant Fels, Octagon, White King)..
Both Rinso products continued until around 1966. Then Rinso White Soap was eliminated altogether and Rinso Blue Detergent became "Sunshine Rinso". In 1969 or so, "Sunshine Rinso" became "New Rinso With Color Bleach". By 1973, the country was in an uproar over enzymes and phosphate pollution by detergents. All of the major detergent manufacturers had to scramble to find alternatives to phosphates. As a result many products were reformulated and the big three detergent manufactureres began trimming their brand offerings (Ad, Burst, Surf (which was reintroduced in 1985), Silver Dust, Brillo, Bonus to name a few). Later brand eliminations included Punch, Cold Power, Duz Soap, Duz Detergent, Instant Fels, Oxydol, Dash, Super Suds, Breeze and Drive.
The fate of Rinso however was worse than that. Lever Bros. made Rinso their "bargain brand". They never advertised the product and as they improved the formulas of other products, Rinso was left behind. It barely survived into the 90's and was even introduced as an "ultra powder" - but by then the brand had lost all of it's strength, really became a poor performer (was loaded with fillers)and was difficult to find. By 2000, the brand was eliminated from the Lever detergent line up. Lever's philosophy was that the Rinso brand, along with Lifebuoy and Lux were "grandma" brands that were identified with "old folks" and did not reflect contemporary tastes. What always struck me was that the company in effect, killed those brands themselves by not advertising or keeping the products competitive (kind of like P&G's Oxydol and ALL of the Colgate brands) so their demise became a self fulfilling prophecy. Too bad - up until it became a "bargain brand", Rinso was actually a very good product...... The only place you might find it today is perhaps in a small inner city store where stock doesn't change. I would think that by now though, the contents of a box would have solidified into a brick from several years of exposure to humidity.......
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Post# 30275-6/14/2003-06:59 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse (Put up or push off)
MESSAGE: You live in New Zealand? Cool! I have a good friend who lives near Wellington. I asked him if he'd like to join our club but he said "Macho gay kiwi rugby players don't play with washing machines, mate."
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Post# 30276-6/14/2003-07:12 ||| chachp (Little Rock, AR)
SUBJECT: RE: Let's just get along
MESSAGE: Thanks BoschBoy. I couldn't have said it better myself! I missed most of what folks are carrying on about and glad I did. By the way, I am a recent Bosch Washer/Dryer/Dishwasher convert. I love them!
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Post# 30277-6/14/2003-07:37 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse (Put up or push off)
MESSAGE: Lesto, you have a friend that plays rugby with a kiwi? Doesn't that get his shoes all messed up? Oy, and the number of kiwis you would need for a game!
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Post# 30278-6/14/2003-07:44 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - WATER ON FLOOR (1140 in 1949?? Why was AW6 Discontinued?)
MESSAGE: Robert, Greg, anyone?
Why was the AW6 discontinued? Did someone here talked about this and I missed it somewhere? I could have, since most of the post I skip these days.
Does anyone know of someone that has a AW6 model? Was it a direct drive? Would love to hear more about this model and why it was changed in 1951 when the AW5 was introduced. Was it because of defects in the AW6 that it was re-done with the AW5?
Everyone have a great weekend.
Brent
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Post# 30279-6/14/2003-07:45 ||| kenwashesmonday (Haledon, NJ)
SUBJECT: RE: Violent spin emergency STOP
MESSAGE: Kurt wrote:
"Here I am (sigh). I have had enough of internet forums. All the people on that appliance website are gay and talk about more than appliances. (I high tailed it outta there fast.)"
And he ain't gone yet!
Ken D.
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Post# 30280-6/14/2003-09:58 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - WATER ON FLOOR (1140 in 1949?? Why was AW6 Discontinued?)
MESSAGE: Hi Brent,
Check out John Lefever's AW6 in the GE wing of the museum, its the only AW6 left we know of in existance in the world. An AW6 is high up on my most wanted list, just below the Apex. You didn't see it at the Washington Convention last summer because its in his West Virginia house. It was a direct drive tranny with the motor sealed completely in oil, very similar to a refrigerator compressor. It shifts from wash to spin by filling a rubber bellows with tranny oil which lifts the entire mechanism into the spin position. I found a working tranny for the machine and its a monster, its over 100lbs, its in storage now, but I snap a picture of it sometime.
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Post# 30281-6/14/2003-12:29 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - WATER ON FLOOR (AW6 vs. Unimatic)
MESSAGE: Which one you think was more reliable? The Unimatic or the GE AW6?
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Post# 30282-6/14/2003-12:42 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: AW6
MESSAGE: Does anyone have pix or drawing of the "all in one" motor/trans. It sounds interesting. I'm not sure I understand how the tub was raised to effect the spin.
Thanks,
Tom
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Post# 30283-6/14/2003-18:51 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse
MESSAGE: Everyone,
I consider as of this moment the matter closed. I think that there was alot of miscommunication and misunderstanding and that caused alot of unnessesary posts/rantings. I for one diddn't happen to remember that at one point up until the age of 22 I was so embedded in straightsville and scared of my own exsistence that I would have attacked ANYONE who made a reference about anything gay.
I give Kudos to Kurt for being "upfront" with us on his feelings. We ALL need to be considerate of others and their attributes that make them a perfect fit into the club Applianceville.
I thought long and hard last night after leaving work about my comments about NOT being me and "You can be SURE"...That's NOT happenin". I will be me and give you the "upfront" story when needed and not "hide" who I am.
In fact I wore my brand new t-shirt to "Michigan PrideDay" today with my "significant". Know what that shirt has on it?
On the Front is a BIG blue Circle with a HUGE W and underslash and under that is a pic of the 1959 PC Laundromats in "Tit-e pink, with chrome stenciled trim". On the back on the Shoulderblade area is a picture of Ms. Furness and under it in Quotations it say's...
You Can be SURE If It's Westinghouse. In bright rainbow colors.
I my freinds was an Staring attraction ALL day. I was stopped about 20 times though by people HAVING to tell me that my shirt was "SO COOL"; asking me WHERE I got it and WHERE they could buy one. In fact when I was close to the performing stage where acts were singing the DJQueen recognized my shirt and said the phrase OUT LOUD on the HUGE PA System.
OH MY..whaddoes that guys shirt say...YOU...can be SURE.. if it's Westing...house...
The hair on my neck stood up.
Then he says oh my god im 50 and I can remember that from TV. Oh my HONEY come up here...WHERE did you get that shirt. My grammy has a Westinghouse "she lives in Califirnia" get it... "West- House" I was like yeah ha ha...HONEY come up here and say HI to everyone... so I did. Then he told the audience that Betty was hot and he wished he was that good looking in the AM.
Then as I was walking back offstage...he said to everyone yes yes darlings we'll be getting back to the music in a minute calm down calm down...Hey I wanna remind you that I'm the DJ and "You can be SURE..You'll Hear Music".
It just goes to show that sometimes something old and not so common anymore can make the world still spin. I thought I was gonna faint onstage. But I had a freakin blast. And most funny I heard the darn phrase over the PA with different words added like 10 more times until I left.
So no I will not change but as of this post,I will keep things about appliances. So therefore all should be happy and get on with stuff... I have!
And remember what Betty Had Em' sayin.....
YOU can be SURE...If It's Westinghouse!
I had people saying it back to me after that like a hundered times...
Love to All
Chad
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Post# 30284-6/14/2003-18:59 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: Back To Our Show on the "CircleW" Network...
MESSAGE: Everyone,
Thank you for the very informative info on Rinso. Yeah I can remember the one time I used it in my 1967 Lady kenmores it gunked up the dispenser. I was pissed but it cleaned reasonably well. Yeah you could get a box towards the end for like $.99 at the dollar stores. I just never bought any. Today in my Westinghouse I use Gain "fresh-Wash" with the subsequent Gain Fabric Softner. I love that stuff. I ALWAYS get told that I smell good.
But in the 1-18's when the get used I use only Tide and Cheer because I have one ad with the 1-18 with Tide and one with Cheer. Im dumb and smarmy yes...but Oh well.
Thanks again for the info.
Chad
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Post# 30285-6/14/2003-20:53 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse
MESSAGE: That was completely cool. You shared washer enthusiasm with a big crowd of people. People look at me funny when I go to Best Buy and play with the machines (OH those LG's WITH PEDASTALS!). Everyone dug you and your shirt. Mega cool.
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Post# 30286-6/14/2003-20:54 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse
MESSAGE: That was completely cool. You shared washer enthusiasm with a big crowd of people. People look at me funny when I go to Best Buy and play with the machines (OH those LG's WITH PEDASTALS!). Everyone dug you and your shirt. Mega cool.
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Post# 30287-6/14/2003-21:02 ||| Pulsator (826 Vesper ,Ann Arbor, Michigan 48103)
SUBJECT: Who is the adult here?
MESSAGE: I have had it! I am so tired of hearing you guys fight! What ever happened to friendship? I can't beleive that I was dumb enough to join this club! I am not going back to this site for at least one month, if you wish to reach me, use my e-mail. GOOD BYE!
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Post# 30288-6/14/2003-21:06 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: RE: Who is the adult here?
MESSAGE: BYE
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Post# 30289-6/14/2003-21:06 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse (You can be sure . . . )
MESSAGE: Very kewl!
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Post# 30290-6/14/2003-21:29 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - WATER ON FLOOR (1140 in 1949?? Why was AW6 Discontinued? Thanks Robert!)
MESSAGE: Robert,
Thanks so much for the detailed description.
Thant sounds like such a cool machine! I bet is would be wonderful to watch and hear!
I remember seeing that washer at his house in the pictures, but I never put the two together that it was an AW6 Model.
Is it running by the way?
Hope you are having a great weekend! Are you packing?
Brent
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Post# 30291-6/14/2003-21:31 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse (Jason, Your Best Buy has LG's?)
MESSAGE: Jason,
That is wild that your best by in New Orleans carry LG's.
The only place that has them here is HHGreg.
I hope best buy starts to carry them here. Then there would be some pricing wars.
Brent
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Post# 30292-6/14/2003-21:32 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - WATER ON FLOOR (AW6 vs. Unimatic)
MESSAGE: Hard to say we've found a lot more Unimatics than AW6's, but the AW6 was only made for 3 years and the Domestic Unimatic was made for 11 years so it only make sense that we would find more Uni's.
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Post# 30293-6/14/2003-21:34 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: AW6 (AW6 Tranny Parts Detail)
MESSAGE: Good thing you asked me this today Tom, because I'm packing up the washer library tonight. But in my sorting I found this for you...
LINK: http://classicappliances.com/TEMP/AW6.jpg
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Post# 30294-6/14/2003-21:36 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse (You can be sure I want one)
MESSAGE: OK Chad, I must know did you make that shirt yourself or did you find it somewhere? I would just love to get one.
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Post# 30295-6/14/2003-21:50 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: AW6 (AW6 Tranny Parts Detail - Transmission looks complicated!)
MESSAGE: Robert,
Thanks for getting me to the GE section. I never did see that machine. That is a great looking machine.
Did it fill in the outer tub? I could not tell how it would fill the inner tub where the clothes are. On the right there is a little flue pointing up. Was that where it would pump the water onto the clothes and tub.
That transmission looks so complicated. Well to me anyway.
I would love to hear where John found this one. Do you know? I bet that he could not believe his eyes when he saw it! That is too cool.
Thanks for taking the time to post all of this.
Brent
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Post# 30296-6/14/2003-21:55 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: AW6 (I must stop reading and pack)
MESSAGE: Now I found this about the AW6 washer too. Of course it takes me double the time to pack things when I keep finding such fun and interesting things to stop and read, not to mention scan, before I put them into a box.
LINK: http://classicappliances.com/TEMP/AW6a.jpg
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Post# 30297-6/14/2003-22:06 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: AW6 (Robert you da Man!)
MESSAGE: Robert,
Thanks once again for posting this!
That was the best reading that I have had in a long time.
That is such an interesting machine! If you only answer one of my questioins, answer this one.....Do you know if it paused between the cycles, or did it kinda do like the Frigidare's and go right into it without skipping a beat?
Go Pack!
Brent
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Post# 30298-6/14/2003-22:23 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: Can I share a story with you.
MESSAGE: When I was 18 and started working in my first permanent job after leaving school I had a much older, very camp behaving man take quite an interest in me. After being in school for my whole life and not being exposed to that kind of person very often, I was freaked out unbelieveably. I even considered leaving the job but I didnt.
Does that make me homophobic? No! I have worked with other gay men who are real gentlemen and well liked by others but when you have a real loud queen loudly telling all your collegues that you barely know what he would like to do to you that is really scary.
Besides the gay stuff some of the comments directed Kurts way have been so mean. Here is someone with an obvious interest in appliances which is why we are here in the first place. He obviously has been keen to get his hands dirty servising appliances and helping other people in his family. So what if he is young, someone obviously is willing to learn and I am sick of older people that I know of personally, holding young people back from their ambitions because they seem to think that kids are too young to know what they want. These same adults then turn around and moan about young people today have no drive which seems so hypocritical.
Also due caution is needed on the internet and we have all heard about people who have been stalked, this happened to a friend of mine and I am extremely careful how much information I give out about myself on the internet. Kurt has complained about emails that obviously make him uncomfortable. We should respect that. Teenagers are continously warned these days to be careful on the internet.
I am so dissappointed. When I was fifteen I would love to have known all the things about washing machines I do know. If I recieved such a welcome I think I too whould of been really upset, and who knows how I would of reacted.
Lets take someone elses shoes and walk around in them for a mile or too.
Thats just my two cents worth.
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Post# 30299-6/14/2003-22:23 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: AW6 (AW6 Tranny Parts Detail)
MESSAGE: Unimatic, thanks! Very interesting design.
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Post# 30300-6/14/2003-23:09 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Can I share a story with you. (THIS IS ENOUGH! PLEASE!!!!)
MESSAGE: Hello All!
This is an APPLIANCE CLUB!
Allthough some of your stories are interesting, I am sick of hearing about them! Can you start your own club and all go there to do your therapy? I don't come to this club to hear about any of this personal life stuff. I understand that most of you are trying to help, but you are just keeping this crap going! Crap in - IT IS TOTALLY OFF BASE WITH THE CONVERSATION THAT NEEDS TO BE GOING ON HERE!
This club cost money! Your Unrelated Postings about personal stuff cost Robert MONEY!
What will happen is that you will get a reputation here of only posting off topic post. You will then be the one that get's upset when your appliance questions does not get answered because you usually post personal stuff about your life, that has nothing to do with this club, and your post don't get read.
I dont't want big teddy bear hugs from any of you. I don't want to know about your personal life here, I have enough crap going on in my own life! I don't want to know about anyone's sex life here!
BOTTOM LINE!!!! I COME HERE TO ESCAPE! LIKE I DID AS A CHILD INTO THE WORLD OF APPLIANCES! DON'T RUIN THAT FOR ME!
I could care less if I offened any of you here! If I did, then it was meant to be, and get out of my life! Yea, that's right, this club is part of my life, and you are messing with it!!!!
Please!!!!
Brent
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Post# 30301-6/14/2003-23:39 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Enough Already
MESSAGE: OK Guys, I think we've all had enough of this particular topic, this will be the FINAL WORD on this topic and its now closed. We have had heated conversations in the past and even lost some members because of this topic. So here's the deal. Sexual talk and innuendos have no place here, be it gay straight or something in-between. Now talking about your gay life-partner and how he or she can't use a washer to save their life is wonderful and should be encouraged, that of course has absolutely nothing to do with sex. Telling us how much you love your partner is because he helped you move a 355lb Whirlpool Combo into the house is also fabulous and we want to hear it, that too doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that it has nothing to do with sex. Now if someone has a problem with the simple fact that the person telling the story is gay, well then they have three choices, they can go away and never come back, they can simply get over it, or of course they can come-out.
NOW HERE THIS, anyone who wants to continue this conversation may do so in the SANDBOX where 99% of us who have had enough can ignore it. Any post I see about topic again will be deleted as soon as I find it.
Topic officially ended in Applianceville proper.
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Post# 30302-6/14/2003-23:46 ||| windycitybear (Chicago)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse (Jason, Your Best Buy has LG's?)
MESSAGE: LGs here in Chicago at Best Buy also. They are a Beautiful appliance. Soon I will have mine!
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Post# 30303-6/14/2003-23:54 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: AW6 (It Morphs Between Wash and Spin)
MESSAGE: Hi Brent,
The AW6 GE does not pause between the wash and the spin but its not as quick and the change-over is in the Unimatic. As the AW6's oil bellows fills up the agaitation slowly slows to a stop at the same time the tub slowly beings to turn. Sort of like morphing between wash and spin. Its very, very cool!
Back to packing.
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Post# 30304-6/14/2003-23:59 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: AW6 (It Morphs Between Wash and Spin! How cool!)
MESSAGE: Well,
I thought that I lived to see the first Frigidaires run!
I guess I did not!
I will now have lived when I see this GE AW6 run!
I just love it! It was as though Frigidaire and GE were trying to out-do each other with the inventions at this time! Amazing!
Thanks Robert!!
Brent
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Post# 30305-6/15/2003-00:00 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse (Jason, Your Best Buy has LG's? Humm.....)
MESSAGE: Well you are so lucky!
I am sure that Best Buy will start to carry them here.
We will see.
I guess anymore comments on this New machine will need to be posted in the Sandbox! On that note however, please do keep up posted in the Sandbox about your new LG, and what you think of it. Many of us are dying to know.
Congrats!
Brent
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Post# 30306-6/15/2003-06:30 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: propeler aggitation
MESSAGE: Hi guys can anyone point me in the right direction as to where I can see pics of propeler aggitator washers, I have seen front loaders, top loaders, twintubs, all with some form of center post aggitator and drum washers. I have not seen any washers with propeler or rotar washers( one example is rolls razor) Any suggestions where I can find some pics on the net of this type and style of machine.
Love and big hairy hugs to all
LINK: http://www.kevinkunsworth.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
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Post# 30307-6/15/2003-07:14 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse (Jason, Your Best Buy has LG's?)
MESSAGE: These are new machines so I should be throwing sand but..
They are SOOOO Beautiful! They're what I can "ARTFUL". Round knobs, symmetrical buttons, and you can't ignore that BIG window! It's the laundry channel in HD and stereo (the dryer has a window too).
I'm trying to decide... a Volkswagen New Beetle or a set of LG's.
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Post# 30308-6/15/2003-07:15 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: AW6 (It Morphs Between Wash and Spin)
MESSAGE: Another Rube Goldberg washer in action. I'd love to see that work!
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Post# 30309-6/15/2003-07:15 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: AW6 (It Morphs Between Wash and Spin)
MESSAGE: Another Rube Goldberg washer in action. I'd love to see that work!
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Post# 30310-6/15/2003-07:31 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Todays POD - Ozzy Osborne and Harriet
MESSAGE: Harriet: "OZZY! Look what came in our new Hotpoint automatic"
Ozzy: "uhh.. uhh.. whass a automa'ic.. duhhh.."
LOL couldn't resist.
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Post# 30311-6/15/2003-07:34 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse (Jason, Your Best Buy has LG's?)
MESSAGE: Go for the LG's - the new Beetles have a dreadful repair record......
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Post# 30312-6/15/2003-07:47 ||| syndets2000 (Nanjemoy, Md)
SUBJECT: Fridgidaire New Generation J-line DW
MESSAGE: Hi everyone- I am looking for a "new"....J line generation Fridgidaire DW, the ones that were redesigned, with the washarm in the bottem, probably starting in 1964 or 1965-
Any color, or model will do.Years preferred would be 1964-1970 something. I have come across the old service manual on these, & It looks rather unique, though the top rack looks like it wouldn't hold much...Thanks! Syndets 2000 (Robert) PS- Has anyone come across a source for Westinghouse Doorboots, for the 1948-1958 slant front models?
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Post# 30313-6/15/2003-08:58 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: AW6 (I must stop reading and pack)
MESSAGE: Hi Robert,
Thanks HEAPS for posting this info. After the diagram I was still perplexed, with the text too I more or less get it.
With that fast spin and the oil cooling that allows it to use an economical little 1/4 horsepower motor, that technology could be a new energy saver model in 2003. I Wish...
Best Wishes & Happy Packing.
Chris.
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Post# 30314-6/15/2003-09:02 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Todays POD - Ozzy Osborne and Harriet
MESSAGE: The 55 Hotpoint is, in my opinion, the most interesting model they ever made. It's the first machine I was ever exposed to as a child.
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Post# 30315-6/15/2003-09:47 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Todays POD - Ozzy Osborne and Harriet (Ozzy Osborne and Harriet)
MESSAGE: Hi Les
The 55 Hotpoint was also the first washer I was exposed to watching - I will try to copy a pic of the model we had.
I have been off the computer for a few days - so much reading to catch up with the postings.
Peter
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/peteski50/vwp?.dir=/appliances2&.dnm=55+Hotpoint.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 30316-6/15/2003-09:59 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Todays POD - Ozzy Osborne and Harriet (Ozzy Osborne and Harriet)
MESSAGE: Let me try again!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/peteski50/vwp?.dir=/appliances2&.src=ph&.dnm=55+Hotpoint.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/peteski50/lst%3f%26.dir=/appliances2%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 30317-6/15/2003-10:15 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Todays POD - Ozzy Osborne and Harriet (Ozzy Osborne and Harriet)
MESSAGE: Cool, Peter. I haven't seen one with the removable lid before.
My mom's had the lid like Harriet's.
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Post# 30318-6/15/2003-11:04 ||| bsmntfullosuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: Shooting appliances!
MESSAGE: Lets face it, not all appliances are worth saving from the scrap heap and crusher. What to do with a 10-year-old White Westinghouse P.O.S. at the end of its useful life? Take it out back and shoot it!
The Original World Famous Home Appliance Shooting Page
http://www.singsingsing.com/has.html
The brave little toaster gets blown away!
http://www.singsingsing.com/has3/deadtoaster.jpg
Old Kitchenaid dishwashers are not that bulletproof
http://www.singsingsing.com/has4/dishwasher4.jpg
Real-format video
http://www.singsingsing.com/has4/dishwasher.rm
Washer brutally attacked (shocking photo, don't click if this will make you cry!)
http://www.singsingsing.com/has5/danbeatswasher.jpg
LINK: http://www.singsingsing.com/has.html
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Post# 30319-6/15/2003-11:15 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Todays POD - Ozzy Osborne and Harriet (They Still Exist!)
MESSAGE: I found one of these Hotpoint washers 2 years ago at a sale here in Omaha. It had been ravaged by it's owner trying to repair it, when he failed they bought a Maytag. Luckily, they pushed the Hotpoint into a corner by the furnace where I found it at their estate sale and rescued it from the inevitable fate of unwanted appliances - the dreaded KRUSHER!
I sent this machine home with Robert who will lovingly restore it and give it a good home once settled in the new house. Jimmy (filterflo) also found one of these machines a few months ago with the matching condenser dryer which I believe he has working in his collection.
Here are some pics of the one I found.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/wshrboy/lst?.dir=/Estate+Sale+Finds+9-08-01&.view=t
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Post# 30320-6/15/2003-13:03 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse (Picking Up LG's Today)
MESSAGE: My good friends Don and Micheal bought a TOL set of these this morning at Best Buy and we're picking them up today around 5 PM, I'll post pictures when we get home via the Sandbox.
Looks like I'll have the Asko set back again, where to put them?!
Greg
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Post# 30321-6/15/2003-13:17 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: Wash Water Temps
MESSAGE: Hi Everyone,
I've noticed that many early automatics didn't have a cold water wash option. I'm guessing that that's because the early detergents (and the soaps that were still in use back then) didn't dissolve in cold water and also because cold water was thought not to clean as well.
I've also noticed that some machines had a "medium" wash water setting. I seem to recall reading somewhere (Consumer Reports?) that a "medium" wash water temp. was between warm and hot. I don't get that one!?! Why would you want to wash in water that was warmer than warm but colder than hot?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Mike
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Post# 30322-6/15/2003-13:27 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse (WOW!)
MESSAGE: I want a full report, pics and videos (if you can).
"Buy a New Beetle now and get a free LG washer/dryer set at Best Buy..."
wouldn't that be cool.
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Post# 30323-6/15/2003-15:37 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Wash Water Temps
MESSAGE: They were probably just another feature used to gain sales of a certain washer. (Lady kenmores had that Hot, medium, warm, cool, cold water temps.)
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Post# 30324-6/15/2003-16:29 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: AW6 (AW6 Tranny Parts Detail (Got a Filter-Flo?))
MESSAGE: Nice pictures of the transmission... Do you have similar specs for a 1986 belt-drive GE Filter-Flo? Also, I would like to see about getting a new control panel because mine has paint spots I can't get off of it.
MrCoffee
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Post# 30325-6/15/2003-17:08 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: very angry
MESSAGE: In responce to an email I have recieved from washer nut dave ashley ----- ok what ever if thats how all of you realy feel, i do appologise then. With
all of the unrest and unease in this site i feel that i am being got at for
just being me, then if i can not be allowed to be me then ok you wont see me
again period
----- Original Message -----
eved from washernut
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Post# 30326-6/15/2003-17:09 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Todays POD - Ozzy Osborne and Harriet (They Still Exist!)
MESSAGE: Gansky, great pix! What is the function of the "red upended cup thingy" on the agitator?
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Post# 30327-6/15/2003-17:10 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: i am outta here
MESSAGE: i am outta here guys you wont see me again
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Post# 30328-6/15/2003-17:11 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: RE: i am outta here
MESSAGE: BYE
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Post# 30329-6/15/2003-17:12 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: RE: i am outta here
MESSAGE: BYE-BYE
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Post# 30330-6/15/2003-17:37 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Todays POD - Ozzy Osborne and Harriet (Ozzy Osborne and Harriet)
MESSAGE: Les the pic of the day is the 56 model
the 55 was somewhat different
The one with the removeable lid was only made for one year and it was considered the econmomy model. I was born in 54 and my parents bought it right afterwards. We had the washer until 61. I always watched the machine religiously. I could never stop watching. (addiction from birth) I will always remember it with fond memories. I never thought their was anything so fantistic until of cource I saw a Frigidaire wash
Peter
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Post# 30331-6/15/2003-17:46 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Todays POD - Ozzy Osborne and Harriet (They Still Exist!)
MESSAGE: Hi Combo
That red thing is the lint filter
Not a good filter
The model we had didn't have the filter
Peter
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Post# 30332-6/15/2003-18:05 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Todays POD - Ozzy Osborne and Harriet (They Still Exist!)
MESSAGE: What great pics! Thanks so much for posting them. I hope you and Robert get him up and running. It's a beautiful machine.
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Post# 30333-6/15/2003-18:08 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Todays POD - Ozzy Osborne and Harriet (Ozzy Osborne and Harriet)
MESSAGE: Thanks. The 56 & 55 are almost identical. I remember my mom's 55 had a chrome handle on the lid whereas the one Gansky found does not.
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Post# 30334-6/15/2003-18:14 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Todays POD - Ozzy Osborne and Harriet (They Still Exist!)
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg for posting
I do remember when you got the machine but kept forgetting to ask what you did with it. I would love to find the one I had (the model with the removeable lid) that would be a real rare find.
Peter
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Post# 30335-6/15/2003-18:15 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Todays POD - Ozzy Osborne and Harriet (Ozzy Osborne and Harriet)
MESSAGE: Les how long did yours last? They weren't long lasting washers!
Peter
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Post# 30336-6/15/2003-18:21 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: very angry (It's about the appliances.)
MESSAGE: Like others have stated. This site is about the repair, and preservation of vintage appliances. Personal discussions are not necessary, and relatively unimportant in a forum like this.
As for me. I want to restore older equipment to good use when others no longer want them. This saves land fill space, and enables people of lesser means to have equipment that they other-wise cannot afford. I really do hope to be of service to those whom are less fortunate. With our increasing unemployment rate, and declining economy, there is value in saving resources!
Ok, so let's look into what I do. I once rescued a PC out of a scrap pile, and most of its components. I also acquired two monitors from that same pile. I thoroughly cleaned, and combined parts to make up a complete machine with a sound card, modem, and all the software necessary to make it completely viable and useful. The purchaser got essentially a new machine for $150.00 that will last a good couple years. Not only that, but they actually saved over $300.00 from the cost of a new PC!
My next ambition is to find some older washing machines that are still servicable, clean them out and restore them. I have already accomplished this with two of them! Then, sell them for a low price to someone who needs one yet can't afford to go to Best Buy. The classic machine such as the Filter-Flo GE has many years of good use left, and are still findable with places to get parts. They can be a complete joy to someone who would otherwise have to endure the humility of going to a public laundramat, or be at the mercy of their land lord (a good restored portable comes to mind here!).
The appliance hobby has definite value in today's uncertain economic situation, when each and every penny spent must be carefully monitored. Enjoy the classics, but get the big picture. There are people out there whom we can really help live a fuller life with less means. I strongly hope to put my obsessions to good service to others!
MrCoffee
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Post# 30337-6/15/2003-18:34 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Todays POD - Ozzy Osborne and Harriet (They Still Exist!)
MESSAGE: Peteski,
Burp-Up? (the filter I mean.)
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Post# 30338-6/15/2003-19:34 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Todays POD - Ozzy Osborne and Harriet (They Still Exist!)
MESSAGE: Hi Combo
It was not a burp up filter - it had a screen within the red cylinder. It actually split into 2 pieces. The inner piece was actually the filter screen.
Peter
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Post# 30339-6/15/2003-20:20 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse
MESSAGE: Chad, all I can say about your story is COOL, WOOF, & DAYAM!!!
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Post# 30340-6/15/2003-20:26 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse (You can be sure I want one)
MESSAGE: Chad, I'd love to have one too, but maybe not with so much pink LOL.
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Post# 30341-6/15/2003-20:56 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: AW6 (It Morphs Between Wash and Spin! How cool!)
MESSAGE: This was the only automatic washer my paternal grandmother ever owned (my mom's mother never had any type of washer). I vaguely remember her having this washer. I mean, the front control panel is almost identical, if not identical in appearance between the aw6 and the aw5 (it's successor??) I do remember it having the 4 knobs on the front. I remember vaguely seeing the GE logo on the front. In fact, because grandma liked her GE so much, that's why we got a GE when we had to get rid of the Bendix because of me always opening it during its cycle when I was a toddler. It was located out in her garage which was far behind the house and was on somewhat a very steep driveway incline. NEVER got to see it runnning. Grandma only washed on mondays. I don't even recall ever seeing wash out on the line, but I do remember her having clotheslines. But I do think it was an AW6 because in one of my discussions of Frigidaires with my dad years ago, I remember him making a comment that Grandma's washer spun as fast as the Frigidaire, but didn't put the clothes in a rope like the Frigidaire did. And Brent and Jason, BTW, this grandmother was from Louisiana.
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Post# 30342-6/15/2003-20:59 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse (Jason, Your Best Buy has LG's?)
MESSAGE: Jason, you gotta keep your pick-up. You can't haul appliances around in a New Beetle!!!!!
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Post# 30343-6/15/2003-21:03 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Fridgidaire New Generation J-line DW
MESSAGE: Robert, there was one of these, albeit probably about 1966 or 1967, recently on Ebay. And I beg to differ with you, the top rack held a ton of stuff if you loaded it like it was intended. The bottom rack too. Although these Frigidaire's didin't clean as well as a corresponding GE or Whirlpool, they held a ton of dishes.
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Post# 30344-6/15/2003-21:10 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Wash Water Temps
MESSAGE: Well, frog-eyed Kenmores, before the first LK, had a medium water temp. The Philco washer just a few days ago on the POD had a Medium water temp too. Whirlpool did too. If anyone else can remember other brands other than LKs or the Philco having a medium water temp, CHIME IN please.
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Post# 30345-6/15/2003-23:02 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Wash Water Temps
MESSAGE: I knew about Philcos. I didn't know about Whirlpool or LK, but I read SOMEWHERE that some AMC made Kelvinators had a "medium" wash temp. setting too.
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Post# 30346-6/16/2003-00:10 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Wash Water Temps
MESSAGE: a few of the top of the line Westinghouses in the late 50s had the "medium" and "cool" tempertaure offerings also
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Post# 30347-6/16/2003-00:49 ||| windycitybear (Chicago)
SUBJECT: Hey why is there no Chat Room here?
MESSAGE: It would be nice to have a real time chat room here or a link to one from this room.
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Post# 30348-6/16/2003-06:39 ||| Smumose (Australia)
SUBJECT: 1950s refrigerator HMV
MESSAGE: My parents have a refrigerator purchased in about 1957. It is still in as new condition and works like the day they bought it. It has never needed a repair. I have told them that someone will want to buy it. But I don't know the price to fix on it. If anyone has any ideas I would be very pleased.
They have been made offers by people who sell second hand goods professionally. But all their offers sounded like opportunistic banter to me.
Please help me to get my parents a fair deal.
Thanks alot.
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Post# 30349-6/16/2003-07:46 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse (Jason, Your Best Buy has LG's?)
MESSAGE: Yeah but pickups drink gas like crazy. I want a fun machine so I can cruise the country and ride roller coasters and not use any gas. That's right, the Beetle also comes in DIESEL that makes 50mpg. My dad has a truck and I can use it anytime if I want to bring home a machine. :-)
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Post# 30350-6/16/2003-07:50 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Hey why is there no Chat Room here?
MESSAGE: We had one but people started being mean :-(
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Post# 30351-6/16/2003-08:10 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: 1950s refrigerator HMV
MESSAGE: Hi Smumose.
I know an elderly lady who also has a 1950's round-shouldered HMV fridge. They must have been good.
The best place to get an idea is to look in the Trading Post. You could buy a copy or look at their website. (link below)
I hope you get a fair price but be aware these old fridges were very solidly built and there are still lots of them around, so it isn't likely to have great value. If it has a moderate sized freezer inside it will be worth more than if it has just an ice cube tray inside or a really tiny freezer box. (If it is still practical to use it will have more appeal and thus more value than if it was cute but not very useful.)
You could also contact antique auction houses such as Joels.
Best Wishes
Chris.
LINK: http://www.tradingpost.com.au/
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Post# 30352-6/16/2003-08:25 ||| Stretch5169 (Illinois)
SUBJECT: Wringer Washing Machines
MESSAGE: Does anyone know where I might find a wringer washing machine?
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Post# 30353-6/16/2003-08:35 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Todays POD - Ozzy Osborne and Harriet (Ozzy Osborne and Harriet)
MESSAGE: My mom got hers in 55. I was born five years later and the tranny died around 64. She replaced it with another Hotpoint, a model that had Hotpoint's burpulator lint filter (which was constanly getting clogged up with lint). The 64 was still going strong when my parents sold that house and left it for the new owners. We then moved into my late Great Aunt's house where we used her 59 GE filter flo for several years until the tranny went out in it. It would no longer spin.
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Post# 30354-6/16/2003-08:39 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: "heartwarming"consumer correspondence
MESSAGE: The attached might be of interest. No agenda here, just thought the story would make a nice "read". Insert any brand name. Anyway, we are not the only folks with emotional ties to their appliances!
"Seldom do people take the time to write a note of appreciation. After 20 years of doing laundry, services provided by my now very old Whirlpool appliances, I felt I owed you a note of thanks.
Today I retired my well used, trusty Whirlpool washer and dryer. I did this not because they no longer did the job, in fact, they work very well. They just looked terrible due to the many years of use, being dropped down the driveway while moving, and banged into by every riding toy my son could steer in their direction.
The dryer saved my sanity more times than I can count as when my son was a baby we put him in his car seat and placed him on top of the running dryer to help calm him during bouts of painful colic. It worked like magic! My washer and dryer, at times my best friends, have never had a service man lay a hand on them. There was never a need as nothing ever went wrong with them. Not once in 20 years! Amazing! How did you do it?
Well, all good things do indeed come to an end and I am now the proud mother..oops, I mean owner of a new, shiny, matching set of appliances. The crying infant vibrating away on top of the dryer, with tear stained cheeks, has grown to be a fine young man of 17 years. My new washer and dryer were given to me by him…for mother’s day. My hope is to be able to use them to wash and dry his son’s clothes, several years from now.
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Post# 30355-6/16/2003-08:56 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Wringer Washing Machines
MESSAGE: Wringer washers appear every now and then on Ebay. Here is a link to one for a Maytag in good shape....there is also a 1950's GE posted that is pretty cool, just needs a little cosmetic work.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2329423147&category=20714
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Post# 30356-6/16/2003-10:14 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: For those whom asked, a response
MESSAGE: Guys,
I took a original ad for the 1959 Westinghouse L-1000's and a picture of Betty to a T-Shirt Store in my local mall. They scanned both of them and used different parts of them to create the shirt I described. It cost a pretty penny though...around $40.00 and some change. Basically it computer animated the pieces i.e. The Laundromats, and the "You can be SURE"...and fanagled them into a way where they would fit on the front and back of a t-shirt. Then like MAGIC this airbrushing machine created this beautiful product. It is definitly one-off to say the least.
Thanks
Chad
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Post# 30357-6/16/2003-10:31 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: "heartwarming"consumer correspondence
MESSAGE: What a great letter.
Thanks for sharing Leslie.
Brent
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Post# 30358-6/16/2003-14:42 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: '57 maytag ad? (Re: Maytag AMP)
MESSAGE: Hi Chris! The Maytag AMP stands for AutoMatic with a Pump! Maytag also had an AM washer which was an AutoMatic washer without a pump that was gravity drained! Sorry my reply is so late but I've been out of town for the past two weeks. Take Care, Mark
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Post# 30359-6/16/2003-14:51 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Significant's TRYING to HELP with Washday
MESSAGE: .....sometimes it's hard to be a washerwoman......givin all your love to just one man......he'll have good times...we'll have bad times doin things that he just don't understand....after all....he's just a man.....stand by your....need I say more!!! Now that was funny!
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Post# 30360-6/16/2003-15:21 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: RE: Significant's TRYING to HELP with Washday (Thanks For The Warm Replies)
MESSAGE:
It's nice to know that there are a few good natured persons here that took what I said with a grain of salt and laughed. To those persons I thank.
I want to thank Robert for stepping in and finding a remedy to the previous situation at hand. And a big thanks to him for "outlining" what is and what "isn't" acceptable here on "Applianceville"...in posts and things.
I hope that my continuation here as a "fellow poster" will be accepted and respected.
Chad
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Post# 30361-6/16/2003-16:09 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: Am I The Only One Who OVERSUDSING happens to?
MESSAGE: Everyone,
When I use my Westinghouse Space-Mates...no matter what I do unless I use an incredibly "tiny" amount of detergent; seems to always oversuds into the window/doorboot cavity and I can tell that it impairs the Washing Action. Does ANYONE other than me have a "straight-front" Laundromat that does this with most detergents.
I tried the "very expensive" Tide HE and I felt that my clothes would have been cleaner if I had washed them in nothing at all and just used warm water. Besides that, they diddn't SMELL clean; and I know that for most of us here that is VERY important.
I am very much in love with Gain Fresh Wash that I use with it. If I use too little doesn't seem to be washing well (about 1/4 cup). If I use more (about 1/2 cup) ther are too many darned suds and the machine is hampered. There is NO happy medium.
So now what I have been "doing" is putting a VERY small amount (about1/4 cup ) of the Gain Fabric Softner in with the wash cycle to help "cut the suds". It works...but doesn't that ALSO cut down on washability of the detergent?
Ideas?
I know that a few weeks back Canadian detergents were discussed, but that isn't practical to buy for most anyone. I have Tried...
All- Makes me break out in hives, sudses WAAY too much no matter what amount you use.
Cheer- Works decent but also makes me break out if not proprerly rinsed.
Tide- Original works ok but still sudses too much and makes my machine work REALLY hard to tumble. I actually can hear the motor straining when i use this.
TideHE- See comments above
Surf- I will have such a severe allergic reaction to it that Im itching JUSt thinkin bout'it.
Purex- Uhm...well I have used it, It smells acceptable, but my wash looks WORSE after the fact. i.e See Pond Scum
Rinso- My question from earlier. When I first got my Westy I still had like three boxes. It always seemed to get my clothes clean smelling good and NEVER oversudsed.
Arm and Hammer- Ok deoderant and baking soda, CRAPPY laundry detergent and will also make me break out.
Dreft- EXPENSIVE but washes well and doesn't oversuds and leave a very light fresh pleasant scent about your clothes.
Oxydol- Just a bleach now but i use it in every load of colors that I do. It doesn't seem to suds much at all.
Is ther anything I havent tried that my well serve a good purpose for me. Is there anything that won't make my washer work harder.
Thanks
Chad
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Post# 30362-6/16/2003-17:08 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: OVERSUDSING & the Westinghouse Space mate
MESSAGE: Today I used Cheer HE with Colorguard in my '59 Westinghouse frosting pink Space Mate washer with a load of colored shorts & t-shirts & socks. Worked perfectly. After the second rinse I opened the door & added Downy Free for the 3rd rinse...then, after the cycle ended, into the Sanyo for an 800 rpm spin before drying..
Part of the problem of detergents making you itch is because they're not rinsing out properly - which could be explained by the slow spin of the Westinghouse space mate machine - much too slow by modern standards. Any washer spinning under 600 falls into the weak spinner department - and this so very much affects how well the detergent leaves the clothes & rinses out. I have VERY sensitive skin & have noticed a remarkable diffrence since beginning to use the ASKO which spins at 1000 rpms & also the Sanyo spinner which goes around 800, before drying.
Also, oversudsing can be controlled by using about a 1/8 dosage of Tide HE and ANYTHING OTHER detergent you like. Even the smallest dose of Tide HE contains enough suds suppressant to control an entire wash load. Rememeber to use less detergent for loads which may not be as heavily soiled.
My fussiest machine about oversudsing/suds locking is the '55 Kenmore, which does not like to spin with suds present AT ALL.
The '55 Kenmore also uses the HOT MED WARM water inlet valve arrangement. This could be said to be an early, mechanically controlled version of automatic temperature control. There's a bimetalic diverter in the inlet valve which mixes the hot & cold water to the warm & medium temperatures .
B
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Post# 30363-6/16/2003-17:37 ||| westie2 (arkansas)
SUBJECT: RE: Am I The Only One Who OVERSUDSING happens to?
MESSAGE: Our oldest son who is now 28 has always had reactions to detergents. The only one that doesn't seem to cause him to break out and itch is the Sears brand. We started with that when he was about 3 months old and he and his family still use it. We still use it along with others. With six kids it was the most economical for us to use as we only used cloth diapers on the kids along with bleach and bluing. Now for 2 of us can use what we like. It does do a good job and any fabric softner will give you the smell you like.
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Post# 30364-6/16/2003-18:21 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Am I The Only One Who OVERSUDSING happens to?
MESSAGE: A couple of points here -
* Have you tried Gain HE?? It is relatively new and although made in both powder and liquid, I suspect that the liquid will be easier to find - at least here in the Northeast. I have only seen it at WalMart, not at regular grocery stores. If you like Gain, that may help. Also, as noted by ImperialBob, Cheer Liquid is now available in an HE formula.
* I answered your Rinso question in a post the other day - and quite well too. Did you see that post?
* I don't know how you manage to use Dreft in a front loader. I can't even use it in my top loader - it sudses way too much.
* Is your reference to Purex based on using the new tabs? The tabs are low sudsing and they seem to clean very well. The Mountain flavor leaves an acceptable fragrance - I find the regular way too strong.
*Not much to say about Surf if you have a reaction. Best not to even try it....
* Oxydol IS a detergent and always has been. It is no longer made by Procter and Gamble but another company, Redox Brands bought the name. Are you confusing that with Oxi Clean? That is the product which is only a non chlorine bleach.
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Post# 30365-6/16/2003-18:25 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: OVERSUDSING & the Westinghouse Space mate
MESSAGE: Thanks for the explanation Bob, I was wondering how those older machines regulated their temperatures without the assistance of today's ATC.
I also am having "fun" trying to figure out the right amount of detergent to use in my modern front loader. Soil must have alot to do with it, because just when I think I haven't added enough, I find more suds in the first rinse than in the main wash.
-Alex
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Post# 30366-6/16/2003-19:06 ||| kenwashesmonday (Haledon, NJ)
SUBJECT: RE: Am I The Only One Who OVERSUDSING happens to? (Era???)
MESSAGE: Am I the only one here that uses Era detergent?
It washes well in all temeratures, doesn't sudz too much, and doesn't make me itch.
I've never heard anyone mention Era here before, is it uncool?
I'm not using a front-loader, but I like Era (even though it seems it's NEVER on sale).
Ken D.
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Post# 30367-6/16/2003-19:33 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: RE: Am I The Only One Who OVERSUDSING happens to? (Era???)
MESSAGE: We have Era here in Fort Wayne,but I never use it.I was useing Gain with my Magtag,but it created suds lock in my 61 Whirlpool,so I switched to Purex Tabs at Imperial Bob advice. I love the Purex.No suds lock,and the clothes have a light clean smell,not a heavy perfume like the Gain.I am useing the Gain up in my 66 Filter-Flo. That dude wouldn't suds-lock with concrete! (-: By the way,I sold my 89 Maytag,along with a 1990's something Westinghouse dryer yesterday to a freind for $150.00 Out with the newer,for some more room for the older!Always a good policy I think!
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Post# 30368-6/16/2003-19:40 ||| SALVOBOY (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: RE: Am I The Only One Who OVERSUDSING happens to?
MESSAGE: If you're referring to the Purex tabs that are made in Belgium, I agree, they're excellent. And using one tab in a FL might do the trick. I generally use Ariel that I buy at the latin supermarket in my Maytag (it cleans great and is a real bargain). But have used the Purex tabs and it's great with stains and very low suds that I know is key with your vintage FL's. Too bad we didn't have that for our '66 Kenmore 70 - the suds lock king (or queen).
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Post# 30369-6/16/2003-19:47 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: RE: Am I The Only One Who OVERSUDSING happens to? (Era???)
MESSAGE: I forgot about ERA....That was some good stuff. That diddn't make me itch...and subsequently diddn't oversuds my Laundromat.
Bob...I think it's ABSOLUTLY awesome that you have a frosting pink Spacemate. I have seen it in your pictures and I just awed over it. Of course mine is a much LATER model that is done in a awful shade of beige, with dark brown Panel Control trim...and also has the "Weigh-To-Save" door. The dryer matches and now Im finding that it isn't drying all the way on "Auto-Dry". Since you have Westinghouse... any ideas pop to mind?
I DID not see that Gain was making an HE detergent. I must rev up the Packard and go to Wallyworld and look for it. And If I cannot find it I will try some Era. Also after I posted I also used Dynamo for the LONGEST time in my Lady Kenmore but then they messed with the scent and formulation and I never bought it again.
Usually after the "Regular" Cycle of my Westinghouse completes itself, i run it thru a "third' rinse "just to be SURE..." It usually helps. Thankfully no one else at my house is sensitive.
I know that my Westy spins slower than the newer FL Automatics in the pipeline...but I can't part with it. If I could find an older set sure, but until then she stays under the counter.
Oh yeah I was in Best Buy and they did have the new LG or whatever front loading automatics that were talked about. The pesty salesman had to tell me EVERYTHING about it and try to get me financing at the same time so I would buy a set. If you put on a pair of THICK COKE BOTTLE glasses tint them rose color and squint....You can see the Westinghouse 1955 Laundromats all over again. The new set is Identical both washer and dryer in cosmetic construction and has a LARGE window in the dryer.
Speaking of dryer windows, My veryfirst apartment had a old 60-70's Hamilton dryer in my Kitchen which the other THREE apartments could use (yucky) with a really small square window. I never had a dryer before that had a window. That Hamilton looked like a Speed Queen and had a Stainless steel tub if I remember right. It was avacado and woodgrain Contol head on the back part the dryer. Our idiot landlord finally felt that it was better to give us a Roper dryer. I coulda shot him.
Ironically the house had no washer until all three apt holders went in on a used early 80's GE Filter Flo. That essentially was my very "first" washer and dryer. Yeah that washer was harvest gold and ugly as heck.
Anyway
thank you For the replies Everyone
Chad
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Post# 30370-6/16/2003-19:50 ||| pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT: 1-18 Fabric Softener Dispenser
MESSAGE: Where can I get a fabric softener dispenser that goes into the jetcone of my circa 1975 Frigidare 1-18? The model number is WC-DT. I like to dry my clothes outside at the summer cottage, but the lake water is quite hard, ergo the need for a water softener. Thanks, Phil
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Post# 30371-6/16/2003-20:32 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: auto dry in the westinghouse space mate
MESSAGE: Well, if your machine is like mine, the auto dry thermostat is adjustable using small pliers. Also, it is important that the insulation be placed over top of the thermostat itself, beween the back of the dryer & and thermostat. This is what is says in the Westinghouse Service information book for the DH-4 dryer. I can give you the cutout temperatures , but advise trying adjusting that screw by hand 1/4 turn in either direction & see if that makes your auto dry work right.
Naturally, check to see that nothing has gone awry with your vent system, and that it is breathing freely.
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Post# 30372-6/16/2003-23:17 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Wringer Washing Machines
MESSAGE: This might be a beautiful washer - hard to tell from the picture, parts are common for these so if the porcelain is in good shape, the rest can be fairly easily restored. I have a beautiful 1964 Kenmore Visi-Matic wringer washer that was found by Jimmy in Ohio. It still needs a few minor adjustments, but it's an outstanding washer and works beautifully. There are still thousands of working wringer washers out there, I see them at estate sales, thrift stores, etc. Many dealers I've been to still have parts for wringer washers on the shelves - the shop I go to has tons of them, mostly for Maytag. I would love to find a 1950's Speed Queen washer with a pump and stainless steel "bowl" tub.
There is a store in Iowa that has lots of wringer washers on hand and the owner told me he's shipped them to Canada and a person orders several every year and takes them to Mexico to resell. If you are interested in speaking with him, email me and I'll send you his information.
Good luck in your search, Greg
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Post# 30373-6/16/2003-23:31 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: For those whom asked, a response
MESSAGE: Interesting - will the design hold up with washing? Loved your story, perhaps there will be a picture of you on stage popping up soon, please share if you get one! I've thought of doing that with whole ads or logos on the iron-on photo transfer paper made for an ink jet printer but I wasn't sure of the durability. There are a few ads that would look awesome on a t-shirt - the lady looking into the Frigidaire washer ('62?) and a few slogans spring to mind!
Greg
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Post# 30374-6/16/2003-23:39 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: "heartwarming"consumer correspondence
MESSAGE: Fantastic story, rare these days when consumers don't get attached to anything it seems!
"Oh, the belt broke on the 4 year old dryer, let's just get a new one..."
Thanks Leslie - Greg
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Post# 30375-6/17/2003-00:58 ||| Ironrite (Las Vegas NV)
SUBJECT: RE: Am I The Only One Who OVERSUDSING happens to? (A bit more modern...)
MESSAGE: In my Frigidaire F/L, I've had very good luck with ECOS liquid. Supposed to be hypoallergenic and has a built in soy softener. I've found it at Trader Joes and I think I've seen it at Kroger stores. It seems to be more of a soap based type product.
Here in Las Vegas, our water is like rocks, so I don't have any trouble with oversudsing. I usually use Downy Enhancer in the rinse.
Currently, I've had very good luck with those Purex tabs. I just use one and have to crush it a bit so it'll go in the dispenser. I usually give the clothes about a 20 minute soak, then finish out the wash cycle.
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Post# 30376-6/17/2003-01:27 ||| windycitybear (Chicago)
SUBJECT: RE: Hey why is there no Chat Room here? (This is Boring Lets get one going Again)
MESSAGE: If there was a chat room before lets get one going again You can easly add a link to one here. How could a chat room get meaner then the people that post here?
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Post# 30377-6/17/2003-05:02 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: Wringer Washing Machines (I have one...)
MESSAGE: Looking to purchase? My Maytag E2L is a complete restoration along with an owner's manual. I kept the original black bake-lite agitator, but it also has a newer blue plastic one as well. In those days, people would call it a "dasher". Let me know...
MrCoffee
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Post# 30378-6/17/2003-05:17 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: Am I The Only One Who OVERSUDSING happens to? (It seems to me...)
MESSAGE: That Dreft may be your best option. Do you use the liquid form? I know the powdered form will suds up a great deal if you're not careful, unless you have one of those machines like I have that suds very little no matter how much detergent you use (My Crosley comes to mind here). The viscosity of the water is very good for lifting the dirt, however. And it rinses very cleanly. Not only does this make a fine regular detergent, it is GREAT as a hand cleaner/degreaser as well! The liquid form hardly suds at all, and tends to do OK (if not for the price, I much prefer the powder form).
I mostly prefer Cheer for general uses. Very mild, and a lot less expensive then Dreft. I have experimented with liquid Surf/All, and it seems to handle any odors very well and hardly suds much. But it also doesn't clean quite as well. All/Surf doesn't like hard water either.
So much for my two cents worth.
MrCoffee
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Post# 30379-6/17/2003-06:06 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Am I The Only One Who OVERSUDSING happens to? (Era???)
MESSAGE: Are you kidding? Stop & Shop always has it on sale for $3.99 for the 100 ounce bottle.... I am not sure if the New Jersey S&S stores do the same sales as the New England stores but it is worth checking out....
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Post# 30380-6/17/2003-07:51 ||| chicago-barry (Chicago)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire Flair Ovens
MESSAGE: I've loved this oven ever since my grandparents got one when they remodeled their kitchen in the 60's. I'd like to have one for my new kitchen, but I'm concerned about things I've heard about how hard they can be to fix, since none of the parts are made anymore.
Does anyone know of a company that would take a Flair and give it all new electronics and controls, as well as reinsulate it and fix any cosmetic problems? Is such a thing even possible? And, finally, are any of these companies located in or near Chicago? Thanks!
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Post# 30381-6/17/2003-08:19 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: "heartwarming"consumer correspondence
MESSAGE: Hi Magic Clean
Great letter!
By coincidence yesterday I went out to fix a Whirlpool washer which has just had its 25th birthday.(well the inlet valve is stamped 5/78)
It has probably lived a hard life, the family it washes for run an earthmoving business. They have owned it since new. Its fault was just an inlet valve (it wasn't filling). Also it was getting a bit hysterical on spin which turned out to be a worn out snubber. (I just bent the spring down further to take up the wear.)
Although quite dirty underneath and a bit battered outside, this machine still purrs along. It would be one of the last Aussie made belt drive Whirlpools, by the early eighties the local manufacturer of Whirlpool washers, Malleys Ltd, was taken over by their mortal opposition, Email who made Simpson, Westinghouse and other brands. The Whirlpool name continued on but underneath it was a Simpson. (Eventually the Whirlpool name disappeared for a few years, now somewhere along the line Whirlpool Corp USA got control again and sell USA made TL's and European made FL's.)
This washer was a very basic model, it had variable water level and timer its only controls. Temperature was selected by different positions on the timer. Cold wash was only 2 minutes agitation! (I guess they assumed people who wash in cold don't care how clean the clothes are?) Its owner always washes in cold but gets a longer wash by selecting a warm cycle and leaving the hot tap off.
Its owner is very fond of it and has no plans to replace it. Judging by how well it works now it will celebrate at least its 30th birthday still in that laundry.
Chris.
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Post# 30382-6/17/2003-08:44 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: OVERSUDSING & the Westinghouse Space mate
MESSAGE: Hi ProgramComputer
I think Bob has hit the nail on the head with the spin speed thing. I have come to the conclusion that more modern detergents have components that really "cling" to the fabric, in other words they actively resist rinsing. In slow spinning machines you get an overdose of these residues of optical brighteners, perfumes and so on. Optical brighteners in particular I don't like, their purpose is to reflect light off the fabric so it looks "cleaner" than it really is. They can be very irritating to sensitive people. I reckon this is why you can't find a happy medium - if there is little enough dose to get no residues of brighteners and perfumes, there is nowhere near enough actual cleaning ingredients. If you up the dose enough to get better cleaning, you have too much perfume and brighteners.
I used to have a Eurolec front loader (NOT Eurotech) from the late seventies which only spun at 400 rpm and had a small diameter European drum. (It was made in Italy by Kennedy)
I had all sorts of problems with itching and so on, as its spin was so woeful it hardly squeezed out any residues despite 5 rinses.
THEN i found a solution (Ta Da!):
Real LOW tech - Plain old generic laundry soap (yellow bars), plus stain removing bar soap. (here in Aus we have Sard Wonder Soap, a white soap with eucalyptus oil which gets rid of greasy marks. There are generic copies which is what I used)
I would grate up one box (4 bars) of laundry soap, (75 cents) and one bar of "generic Sard" (60 cents) and that would do me for over a month. It only needed about one dessertspoon. (=US tablespoon) for a load. It really works well. It foams up a bit at first, after about two minutes tumbling it settles down to a nice level and by the end of the wash it had almost no suds left.(the suds seem to "die" during the wash.) The final rinse was almost clear. No clingy additives = not hard to rinse, even in a slow spinning machine.
Now I use an "infant formula" powder in a better machine, but that is a local product so no interest to you. Actually it is no longer available here either, I am running on accumulated stock so in about a year I might have to go back to grating my own!
Best Wishes
Chris.
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Post# 30383-6/17/2003-09:39 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: '55 KENMORE PEES FLOOR - PHOTOS AT 11:00
MESSAGE: Oh dear. Peeing. Coming from outer tub, at drain hose (where in a modern belt drive machine the pin trap is located). Tub removal and leak repair suddenly high on the priority list of things to do today.
Photos later this evening....
B
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Post# 30384-6/17/2003-11:25 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse
MESSAGE: Guys,
On a few topics discussed.
1. My 1-18 doesn't have a fabric softner dispenser either. I have looked the world over for one and finally gave up. Mine just has a white cap With the Frigidaire Logo and Crown on it. I wouldn't know what to do if the thing had one. I probably would stop using my Westinghouse "gasp and crying from audience"...and use the 1-18's.
And as a interesting sidebar, When I wash my clothes in the 1-18 instead of the Westy, I find that they are drier than most and they seem cleaner; and I DONT itch. I'm scared to death of overusing it though. I know that they have that stupid bellows and they arent making any parts for it anymore and I just want to keep it nice. The dryer I use though it's so NICE to be able to dry two loads whilst you wash the third. And yes the 1-18 dryer does dry faster (now) than the Westy (then).
2. Bob, thank you for the info on how to adjust the auto-dry thermostat. I will check over what you said to. Also diddn't think about checking the tubes outside, THAT is a project I haven't done in AWHILE. My dumb luck is that there will be a birds nest or a Hornets Nest in the tubes.
3. Wringer washers- God I have owned SEVERAL of them. Mostly Maytag my nicest one was a late 1940's Master N2L I believe With pump. Mine had all red trim and the Gyrafoam Agitator was red also. I had problems with all of the Maytags clogging with lint at the drain trap screen. But thankfully the agitator removed quite easily and thus it wasn't as bad as it could have been. My second one was a Cheiftan with all blue trim (MUCH LATER MODEL) that you had to step on a bulb connected to this hose to get the rollers to go. That lasted like fifteen minutes until I rigged it not to need the steppybulb.
And then I had a late 1930's Maytag Wringer that also had a pump...but it was driven RIGHT off the front of the motor ALA Whirlpool in the Direct drives. This was one of the OLD grey square tub Maytags before the more popular and well rememebred all white porcelain maytags began appearing The Master(1939) Commander and Cheiftan (1940). un fact when i dated the machine thru Maytag it had a build date of June 1938 so that is all I have to say about that.
I also had a 1960's Norge that was White again with Blue trim. The pump worked hardly at all and you had to YANK the crap out of the handle to get it to engage in WASH. The Lovell wringer excelled over the last ones only superceeded by the Maytags.For whatever reason, Maytag has then and now one of the VERY BEST wringers ever.
Also too had a 1970's Wards Signature (i.e SpeedQueen) Wringer Washer in harvest gold with Wood Trim around the Dials and levers the wringer was all white as well as the "bowl shaped" tub. It had a pump and if you just bumped the control JUST right....it would shoot water ALL over the floor. This one I had in my first Apartment in the Bathroom before we got the GE Filter Flo.
And up until last fall... I had a 1930's Apex With the Floto-Plane Agitator. I cannot explain this agitator to you but it was the coolest and had tons of holes in the fins to let the water thru. there was no pump and the wringer left ALOT to be desired. Interestingly enough...I sold it at a garage sale for $125.00.
4. I hope this shirt holds up too. At $40.00 I think that I will be handwashing it at any rate and drying it on a rack. I have a plunger that I drilled holes in so it can be agitated in my laundry sink. I will just dry it on the clothes rack or out on the line.
5. Chat room- It could be a good idea but possibly do it over at the sandbox....Just my thought.
6. We have very soft water around the Lansing Michigan area...so that is why soap sudses so much and doesn't rinse out worth a crap irregardless of what's in the Detergent formula. NOW I'm NOT saying that that doesn't have something to do with it...I'm sure that it does...but even when you shower it seems that you can't rinse off. We live on a plume of water called the Saginaw aquifer...the water is some of the BEST on the planet...but again..it's TOOO soft and you can rinse anything...even dishes feel slimy.
7. Spin Speed- obviously answered that the 1-18 spins faster than the Westy removing more saop and drying faster. I have been looking at A newer set of "GASP SCREAMS AND MOANING" a set of Frigidaire Gallery's that have that 1000+ spin speed But I can't buy something that is a DIRECT rip off from what used to be Westinghouse. If ANYTHING Frigidaire should have at least kept the Westinghouse name on something ESPECIALLY anything having to do with a Front Loading washer. Oh well my opinion...blaat.
And Last but not least...
8. Bar Soap- I used to grate up Fels Naptha and another bar Soap called "Kirks Coco Hardwater Castile"...which I used in my Signature Wringer...because it was cheap and when I first moved out I was VERY poor at that time. It seemed to work very well, create a good lather ( and mind you with the VERY plain straigh vane Speed Queen agitator) and rinse out rather well. My apartment kitchen had the old stamped cast Iron sink with DEEP water wells. So I could in fact use a wringer washer there.
Don't slap me but when I finally got that Filter Flo I about crapped myself... There is a DEFINITE difference in using a wringer and using an automatic. Hands down that's why wringer washers aren't made anymore.
Thanks
Chad
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Post# 30385-6/17/2003-11:32 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: And On That Note, A Word From Our Sponsor Westinghouse (Kirk's coco hardwater castille)
MESSAGE: I love that soap but it only became available in the Atlanta area a few months ago. My best friend who is from the Boston area used to semd me a few bars. It lathers like crazy but I've never tried it in the washer, only on myself.
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Post# 30386-6/17/2003-12:36 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: HOSE NUMBER 19026
MESSAGE: Rubber failure. See the link.
Anyone gota 19026 hose?....it's rather specific...in this '55 Kenmore, the pump body moves back and forth to engage the pulley and drive the pump...so this hose is rather long
& needs to be able to move back and forth slightly..
I'm gonna take a damitol & go to the gym & workout hard behind all this..
B
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/PEEING/INDEX.htm
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Post# 30387-6/17/2003-13:33 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: RE: HOSE NUMBER 19026 (Yucky Broken Hose)
MESSAGE: Wow,
It split RIGHT on the seam that sucks. I wonder if any JB weld would work on it. It fixed that pump for the Bendix Dialamatic or whatever a few days ago and that was made of plastic albeit hard plastic. And I also used it to repair a soft rubber gasket piece on My old Apex Dyno Vacuum Cleaner that would have renered that machine virtually useless. Just an idea but that JB weld is pretty universal repair stuff.
By the way BOB , what is the name of that tune that's playing while your looking at pictures. I KNOW I HAVE HEARD it before but Im racking my egg for an answer.
Thanks
Chad
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Post# 30388-6/17/2003-13:40 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: ALWAYS LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE OF LIFE
MESSAGE: That's the tune in the background of the peeing page - it's a Monty Python ditty, from the Meaning of Life...
AND
Would you believe, I have here a hose saved spare from the Equator combo which makes a spendid replacement to the original Kenmore sump hose....it's even ribbed, providing greater flexibility than the original...The appliance Gods are with me today, and the old girl oughta be washing again later tonight..
B
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Post# 30389-6/17/2003-13:56 ||| salvoboy (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: RE: HOSE NUMBER 19026
MESSAGE: Hey Bob-
Sorry to hear about your problem. Thanks though for the great pic of those '55s. It was very clear and showed the corner mounted knobs - my favorite part since they were eye-level as a little guy! Just like my grandmother's and great grandmother's sets. Of your collection, they're my favs. Channeling good hose karma your way ......
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Post# 30390-6/17/2003-15:17 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: RE: ALWAYS LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE OF LIFE (Lady K's Bypass Surgery )
MESSAGE: Bob,
Great song and what great luck finding a hose that will work.
That K looks FABULOUS, probably better than when it left the showroom in 55'.
I also used some JB weld on a Coolant hose in my dads 1956 Packard Patrician that blew it's cool (I couldn't resist) on my way back from Grand Haven/Grand Rapids last summer with five freinds in the car and the air conditioning on full blast. My grandpa told us before he passed that spring that when the car became My dads it would need new rubber.
So my dad, brother and myself assumed that it needed NEW tires. So $700.00 later We had new Coker Radial whitewalls on it and no new coolant hoses. I WISH That he would have been more specific. And my dad is about as techinical as an abacus so we just thought underhood was ok.
What does this have to do with old washing machines?
The fact that the JB WELD held that upper coolant hose together after drying all the way back to home 54.8 miles and never leaked a single drop. And saved grandpa's Packard from a VERY bad death. I am a advocate of that stuff.
I have used it on all sorts of things including my good ol' Westinghouse where the tub hose connects to the tub..where a small leak developed...and on the 1-18 on a hose near the pump. It's held together stuff that glue would seperate over.
Also had you not had that hose to retrofit....you could have used it and it probably would have worked. I have so much of that stuff that it's not even funny. And for what it does it's cheap.
But anyhow...go you and hope that you can be RotoSwirling later this evening...
Yours
Chad
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Post# 30391-6/17/2003-16:53 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Flair Ovens (I know what you mean! (Sigh))
MESSAGE: The Frigidaire Flair and GE push button stoves from the 50's and 60's are my favorite era for electric stoves. Although they're probably not the only game in town, www.antiqueappliances.com is the only place that I know of that restores antique stoves and fridges. Unfortunately, their restored appliances are VERY expensive. We're talking 1,000's of dollars. (Sigh) Someone actually commissioned them to restore a Frigidaire Flair. Their website doesn't indicate how much they charged for the custom restoration.
They're located in Georgia. Their website lists the "new homes" of their restored pieces, which seem to be located all over the country.
Here's a link to the restored Flair: http://www.antiqueappliances.com/stoves/1962FrigidaireFlair.htm
and here's a link to their homepage: http://www.antiqueappliances.com
Good luck in finding someone to restore your treasure. Please let us know how you make out.
Mike
LINK: http://www.antiqueappliances.com/stoves/1962FrigidaireFlair.htm
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Post# 30392-6/17/2003-19:25 ||| JAKINS (Kissimmee, Fl.)
SUBJECT: Out With the New and In With the Old
MESSAGE: Hi Guys
Well the Westinghouse Twins are cleaned, Oiled, And Painted. and Up and Running. I put them back together today after a coat of Perma Glaze. The pics do not show how good they really look. I had a Problem with the speed changer the oil seals were bad when i tried some new gear oil it ran out of the machine over night. Still got warm with the new oil. and since this is not a serviceable unit The only thing that I could Think of was to shoot some grease In there. I used some with Slick 50 in it and now she runs very quiet and alot cooler also no leaks. This has been alot of fun for me. and they are such a nice design. I converted the dryer to 110 volts and that is also working fine the only thing i had to do to help it along was to restrict the air flow a little so that it would blow alittle hotter air. one thing I wish it had was the How dry I Am chimes. Just turns off. Well I have to find something new to drive the husband nuts with now.
A special Note of thanks to Greg Nunn. I could not have done this without his help! Thanks Greg.
Hope to post more soon
John
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/jakins2001/vwp?.dir=/GENERAL+ELECTRIC+DISHWASHER&.src=ph&.dnm=Ready+for+Painters.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/jakins2001/lst%3f%26.dir=/GENERAL%2bELECTRIC%2bDISHWASHER%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 30393-6/17/2003-20:09 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Out With the New and In With the Old (Way to go John!)
MESSAGE: John,
You really went all the way with this set! They look wonderful!
I am sure that you are washing up a storm!
Thanks so much for sharing the photo's of the re-birth of your machines. They look great where you have them.
I am sure that they are very happy with their new life!
Brent
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Post# 30394-6/17/2003-20:58 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Out With the New and In With the Old (Outstanding!!)
MESSAGE: They look absolutely stunning - you did such a nice job on them! Interesting to hear that the grease and slick-50 worked so well in the speed changer, it's hard to know what sort of oil Westinghouse used in those orginally so trial and error is the rule sometimes. I suspect that they must have used a heavy viscosity oil in them if the gear oil you used ran out so quickly. Thanks for the continuing picture updates, it's been fun watching you bring them back to life. You are more than welcome for the little help that I provided - we all learn as much from each other's work as we do working on our own so you have repaid the favor already! Now you are ready for a Frigidaire unimatic tranny restore - we just need to find more machines!
Thanks again and happy tumbling - Greg
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Post# 30395-6/17/2003-21:28 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: HOW DRY I AM
MESSAGE: '55 Kenmore works like new again thanks to doner sump hose from Equator spare parts pile. Pack rat tendencies pay off again. Grandma Kenmore is pleased with the superior flexibility of the replacement sump hose, and with the cleaned & tightened drive belt (new 5 years ago) engages & pumps more affirmatively than before. Good Day.
B
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Post# 30396-6/17/2003-22:20 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Out With the New and In With the Old (Awesome!)
MESSAGE: I'm so glad that you were able a) to rescue those wonderful machines and b) restore to as close to their original splendor as possible. Thanks for sharing your efforts both in words and pictures. I'm all thumbs when it comes to my mechanical ability so I truly admire those of you who bring these wonderful old machines back to life.
Mike
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Post# 30397-6/17/2003-22:27 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: RE: Out With the New and In With the Old
MESSAGE: Very classy machines there! Thanks for sharing.
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Post# 30398-6/17/2003-22:28 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: HOW DRY I AM (YAY)
MESSAGE: Another great Kenmore revived!
Grind-Click-Clunk!
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Post# 30399-6/17/2003-22:32 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: RE: HOW DRY I AM
MESSAGE: When in doubt,save it! (when it comes to obsolete parts for about anything collectable) Way to go Bob! (-:
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Post# 30400-6/17/2003-22:37 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: ALWAYS LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE OF LIFE (JB Weld and starting to get a little sandy)
MESSAGE: JB Weld fixed my VW Bug one day. It backfired and caused the safety pop out on the carburetor to well.. pop out. It's made so that instead of backfiring and damaging the engine, it pops this round piece out of the carb. JB Weld... VROOM! good as new. Drove it from New Orleans to Pensacola, FL and back. I miss that car now.
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Post# 30401-6/17/2003-23:37 ||| windycitybear (Chicago)
SUBJECT: RE: HOW DRY I AM
MESSAGE: Well I never had a doubt in my mind that you would get her up and running in no time flat. You are a wizard with those old washers Bob. Knowing the size of your "wand" I knew it wouldn't take much waving to make an old lady behave once again!
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Post# 30402-6/18/2003-00:08 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: Look What I found
MESSAGE: Frigidaire washer and Dryer
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/oldappliancenut/lst?.dir=/Frigidaire&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/
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Post# 30403-6/18/2003-05:26 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Look What I found
MESSAGE: So, how about some details, like where, when and how? They look great!!
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Post# 30404-6/18/2003-07:12 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: "heartwarming"consumer correspondence
MESSAGE: Leslie, I love it, very sweet indeed.
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Post# 30405-6/18/2003-07:20 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Am I The Only One Who OVERSUDSING happens to?
MESSAGE: Chad, have you trie Gaine HE yet??? Also, Fab powder has instructions on the box for using in a front loader. In my area of the country it's getting hard to find in any place other than the Dollar stores of some ilk. I tried Purex liquid and broke out. When I went to use Gain, I quit itching and the rash cleared up. Fab also didn't make me itch.
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Post# 30406-6/18/2003-07:24 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: My 2nd favorite POD is on!
MESSAGE: Now is that a dream machine or what?
Of course my #1 POD of all time is...
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/kenmore800/vwp?.dir=/pictures/Dream+Machines&.src=ph&.dnm=Kenmore+800.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/kenmore800/lst%3f%26.dir=/pictures/Dream%2bMachines%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 30407-6/18/2003-07:45 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Out With the New and In With the Old (Outstanding!!)
MESSAGE: "We just need to find more machines"--a unimatic or rapid dry. Hello, as I wave my little paw!!! I'd be more than happy to adopt a restored Frigidaire and give it a good, loving home!!!
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Post# 30408-6/18/2003-07:46 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Look What I found
MESSAGE: Great looking washer and dryer. Yeah, another Frigidaire pair has been saved! I could watch them wash all day!!! Todd
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Post# 30409-6/18/2003-08:00 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Look What I found
MESSAGE: OMG, I wish I could afford to have that pair checked out and refurbbed; shipped to me and have one of you guys come and install them for me. Jimmy!!!!???? Steve!!!!! aaaagghhhh!!!!! I hate being 10 thumbs!!!! I'm verklempt!!!
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Post# 30410-6/18/2003-08:02 ||| todde (longbeach, IN)
SUBJECT: RE: Am I The Only One Who OVERSUDSING happens to? (Why not just use Dreft)
MESSAGE: You say you like Dreft and it works well without too much sudsing but is expensive. What about all the money you are wasting on trying other brands you don't like. Just bite the bullet and spend a little extra for what works, especially if you are breaking out!
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Post# 30411-6/18/2003-08:12 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: Look What I found (look what i found)
MESSAGE: the washer needs a water fill valve and a bellow beside tha it works great and the dryer need one of the blower belts fixed...i found them behind a gas station a few mies from my house that collect scrap
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Post# 30412-6/18/2003-08:47 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Look What I found (Wow!!!)
MESSAGE: The dryer is a 1964 model. It's matching washer would have been the last year of the Multimatic mechanism.
The washer model tag is unreadable because of the flash. Can you post the model number? I'm surprised that with the fabic setting dial that the machine is a Custom Deluxe. Would have thought that it would be an Imperial. I've only seen one other Jet-Action washers with the fabric settings dial. Very rare find! Too cool! Congrats!
-ph
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Post# 30413-6/18/2003-08:53 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Out With the New and In With the Old (Stunning!)
MESSAGE: They look wonderful in that little kitchenette. Congrats! Your hard work really paid off!
-ph
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Post# 30414-6/18/2003-09:12 ||| rayjay (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Am I The Only One Who OVERSUDSING happens to? (Why not just use Dreft)
MESSAGE: Chad, I had the same problem. I use Persil Detergent. I think it is imported from Germany and it is recommended by Miele's front loading wsahing machines. You can go to website prairieappliances.com or call (1-888-422-0100. Or, another site is www.vacuumsvacuumsvacuumsvacuumsvacuumsvacuumsvacuumsvacuumsvacuums.com and their phone number is 1-800-322-2965. They have quite a selection of laundry products in Persil. They are not cheap either, but work. I also have sensitive skin. I purchase the detergent at a local appliance store that carries Miele products. Good luck and let me know how you make out.
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Post# 30415-6/18/2003-09:13 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Look What I found (look what i found)
MESSAGE: IT is rare for a Custom Deluxe to have the fabric settings. Does it say Rapid Dry on the panel somewhere else?? Does the washer lid instructions for whites & colors say for spin speed rapid dry 1000 or 710 rpm???
OMG I want this washer and dryer, I wish I could fix it. AGGGGHHH!!! I'm going bonkers!!!! Bouncing off the walls!!!
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Post# 30416-6/18/2003-09:15 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Out With the New and In With the Old
MESSAGE: John, they're gorgeous. OOOOHHH. And I see that wonderful dishwasher too!!, the GE!!! Bob
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Post# 30417-6/18/2003-10:26 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Look What I found (Wow!!!)
MESSAGE: These are very nice, interesting rare finds! This is the first time I've seen a live photo of that style of 1964 control panel. Very cool.
I think this washer must be what Tom would refer to as a "drop in" model, made special for some store or company, or perhaps a special limited edition. I'm betting it is made between 1967-69. I'm thinking it would probably say "Rapidry 1000" if it were so, but being a change from the typical Custom Deluxe, who knows. It is indeed featured more like an Imperial. The Custom Deluxe must have sold well in those years because we have seen a fair amount of them, but not with this control. If you look back to Eddy's pictures (the style I'm most accustomed to) there are temps where the fabric dial is, and a speed selector where the cold switch is on this one. Our neighbor had the one like Eddy's only in Coppertone with black knobs.
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Post# 30418-6/18/2003-11:39 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: POD Lady Kenmore was just like Grammas'
MESSAGE: Guys,
Bout crapped when I saw todays POD. That was the machine the my Grandmother so lothesomely hated when my Great Uncle sold/ forced it on her in the 70's. I thought that it was JUST beautiful, and that she was criminally insane anyhow.
Course she Always knew where to find my little self parked on the "laundry stool" sitting across from two of the coolest machines I can remember next to my other Grandma's slant Front 63'Westy's. And I was usually ALWAYS in their Laundry Rooms if not playing with their vacuum cleaners.
I can Remember purposely getting myself "dirty and wet" just so she would use them, and I could watch. She was mad as hell for my playing one time out in the rain and the mud instead of in the garage where I was supposed to.
But I did it, missed afternoon treat because I was bad..:-) But at any rate, I got to sit my butt there on my little "laundry stool' staring like I was high at the light glowing softly thru the bottom half of the contol doors. SEARS and Lady Kenmore in Gold Script. Both of them had the Sears-Best Stickers on them as well.
Hearing that (Washing)Whir,wush.Whir,wush.Whir,wush. Whir,wush.(clink)whir.whir.(pumping out)whir.whir.whir.whir. grind.snap.clink.clink.clunk( grrrr whir whir whir whir whirwhir whir whir(spin starting). Is how "I" remember it sounding. Going from Wash to spinrinse. And my 1967's sound that way too.
Anyway
Im gonna cry too many "good Ol Dreams" about washin at my grandmothers houses.
Yours Chad
Chad
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Post# 30419-6/18/2003-11:41 ||| frigilux (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: '60's Frigidaire W & D
MESSAGE: Oldappliancenut: You lucky dog, you!! Great find! I'd love to get my hands on a Frigi pair from that era. I love the space capsule agitator. Congratulations!
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Post# 30420-6/18/2003-12:49 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Out With the New and In With the Old
MESSAGE: Hi John, all I can say is "WOW"! They look beautiful, great paint job. Hey I never would have thought of using Slick 50 grease. Did you drain the old oil before you refilled it with new gear oil? I was just wondering if maybe the new gear oil was a lot thinner than the original westinghouse oil, thin enough to get through the seals?
Anyway, enjoy truly classic front-load washing!
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Post# 30421-6/18/2003-12:56 ||| Sarahw (Richmond VA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Lady Kenmore was just like Grammas' (My Mom still has hers!)
MESSAGE: I giggled too at the POD - my mother's lovely avacado green LK's are still kicking her laundry around.
I never liked the dispenser, though - it left powder in the tray.
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Post# 30422-6/18/2003-14:55 ||| Pulsator (826 Vesper ,Ann Arbor, Michigan 48103)
SUBJECT: POD, Avacado Color
MESSAGE: Hi,I am back seeing as how most of the fighting has stopped. I have a question about that certain shade of Avacado. Does anyone know the exact shade color? I am re-thinking the color theme of my 1-18. I would love that color more becuase the interior is already blue! It looks so perfect! It looks so...me!
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Post# 30423-6/18/2003-15:51 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD, Avacado Color
MESSAGE: Jamie, I"m not sure if I'm understanding your question correctly, but I'll take a stab. The color I believe is roughly the same as a green olive. Many of the manufacturers did a sort of "trim" on these machines (in this case a few shades darker green) around the edges.
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Post# 30424-6/18/2003-16:51 ||| JAKINS (Kissimmee, Fl.)
SUBJECT: RE: Out With the New and In With the Old
MESSAGE: The Dishwasher is also a Westinghouse.
John
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Post# 30425-6/18/2003-16:54 ||| JAKINS (Kissimmee, Fl.)
SUBJECT: RE: Out With the New and In With the Old (Gear oil )
MESSAGE: I tried the thickest oil that i could find. it was a 110 weight gear oil. Very thick it was no fun cleaning up off the garage floor.
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Post# 30426-6/18/2003-16:58 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Look What I found (WCDAFN - 1969)
MESSAGE:
Very cool find indeed, looks like it's in very nice shape too. The repairs you mentioned should be relatively easy.
This model WCDAFN was introduced in 1969 at the same time as the "Cabinet" washer and dryer models.
The fabrics control (F in model)and cold water switch were added to this non-rapidry model. (630 spinner)
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Post# 30427-6/18/2003-18:05 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Look What I found
MESSAGE: WOW! Congratulations on pulling the prize rabbit out of the hat Old Appliance Nut!
This is really what I needed to see :)
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Post# 30428-6/18/2003-18:06 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Out With the New and In With the Old
MESSAGE: And another one!
They look like you did a really good job Jakins!
YAY! Looks like we are back to old times.
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Post# 30429-6/18/2003-22:51 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Look What I found (Awesome)
MESSAGE: Wow! What an wonderful find. I'm so glad that fate brought you to them. It would have been a crying shame for that pair to have been destroyed. The design of the control panel is my favorite Frigidaire design.
Congrats!
:-)
Mike
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Post# 30430-6/18/2003-23:05 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: 1957 Bendix Combination Washer-dryer
MESSAGE: Greetings Everyone! I have requested photos etc. from this seller to see what this machine looks like three times, and received NO RESPONSE at all. I have also had a friend email this seller with questions and received no response. I would be VERY careful before I placed a bid on this item.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3228542425&category=1400&rd=1
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Post# 30431-6/19/2003-00:02 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: Kenmore on ebay
MESSAGE: kenmore washer on ebay looks hardily used
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2330147242&category=42232
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Post# 30432-6/19/2003-00:20 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1957 Bendix Combination Washer-dryer
MESSAGE: Hi Mark - I too requested photos of this machine and did get a response, seller was to have pictures on the auction by the first of this week....
It may truly be a "collector's dream!"
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Post# 30433-6/19/2003-06:27 ||| CHRISTFR (st louis mo)
SUBJECT: SCAM ??? MAYBE
MESSAGE: HAS ANOYNE BEEN CONTACTED BY PERSONS BASED IN ENGLAND ?? I HAD TWO ITEMS FOR SALE A THE SITE AND AFTER HEARING ABOUT ALL THE SCAM PROBLEMS IM WONDERING IF THIS IS JUST ANOTHER ONE HAVE BEEN CONTACTED BY TWO PEOPLE WHO SAY THEY ARE BASED IN ENGLAND IT ALL SOUNDS FISHY TO ME ANY IDEAS ??
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Post# 30434-6/19/2003-06:27 ||| CHRISTFR (st louis mo)
SUBJECT: SCAM ??? MAYBE
MESSAGE: HAS ANOYNE BEEN CONTACTED BY PERSONS BASED IN ENGLAND ?? I HAD TWO ITEMS FOR SALE A THE SITE AND AFTER HEARING ABOUT ALL THE SCAM PROBLEMS IM WONDERING IF THIS IS JUST ANOTHER ONE HAVE BEEN CONTACTED BY TWO PEOPLE WHO SAY THEY ARE BASED IN ENGLAND IT ALL SOUNDS FISHY TO ME ANY IDEAS ??
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Post# 30435-6/19/2003-07:02 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: SRVAA
MESSAGE: SRVAA is the Society for Restoration of Vintage Automatic Appliances -
How does a guy become a member of this society? Is there a test? What are the benefits of becoming a member of this society?
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Post# 30436-6/19/2003-07:17 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore on ebay (My aunt's washing machine!)
MESSAGE: OMG!
Why are all the good washers so far away from New Orleans?
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Post# 30437-6/19/2003-07:28 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore on ebay (My aunt's washing machine!)
MESSAGE: Jason, I know what you mean. The price of the machine is great, but to ship it here would be $300 or so. This one is a beauty, with the vari-flex agitator. Todd
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Post# 30438-6/19/2003-08:28 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: 1957 Bendix Combination Washer-dryer
MESSAGE: Thanks for the update!
Why on earth would someone place a stating bid price at $5,000.00?
Now if the machine was still in the original crate, never been used with all the manuals still intact,
then the price is justifiable!
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Post# 30439-6/19/2003-09:28 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore on ebay (What's under the console cover?)
MESSAGE: It would be neat if it was the same model as yesterday's POD. I think you need to go for it Jason!
-ph
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Post# 30440-6/19/2003-09:30 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1957 Bendix Combination Washer-dryer
MESSAGE: I don't think any of my dreams would cost $5K... At least not my appliance dreams!
-ph
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Post# 30441-6/19/2003-09:36 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: SCAM ??? MAYBE
MESSAGE: As long as you don't pay any money to them or give them any personal info (bank acct, credit card number, SS#), it could be legit. But since they are buying, get ALL the money for the item first before releasing it.
-ph
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Post# 30442-6/19/2003-10:25 ||| radiobill1966 (Indianapolis, IN)
SUBJECT: RE: Out With the New and In With the Old
MESSAGE: Isn't the dryer the one that plays "How Dry I Am" when the cycle is complete?
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Post# 30443-6/19/2003-12:12 ||| AndrewInOrlando (Winter Park, FL)
SUBJECT: RE: Am I The Only One Who OVERSUDSING happens to?
MESSAGE: I notice that you mention Gain HE. I haven't seen it available anywhere here in Orlando. How long has it been out? For those who need a low sudsing detergent for a high efficeincy machine or front loader, I've had a lot of luck with Sears HE liquid laundry detergent. I use it in my Calypso where suds are a big no-no. No allergic reactions and very clean clothes, too. It's also CHEAP!! Only $9.99 for a 200 ounce bottle at the Sears Outlet Store. I believe it's the same price at the retail stores, too. But it works great in the Calypso, smells clean, washes whites and colors beautifully and requires no additional additives and only 1/4 cup for a full load of clothes, considerably less for smaller loads. Hope this helps!!
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Post# 30444-6/19/2003-12:13 ||| AndrewInOrlando (Winter Park, FL)
SUBJECT: RE: 1957 Bendix Combination Washer-dryer
MESSAGE: Those people are on some kind of hallucinogenic substance!! And no picture of the machine either? Does this sound fishy to anyone?
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Post# 30445-6/19/2003-12:14 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore on ebay (What's under the console cover?)
MESSAGE: "PeterH770":
Trust me, Peter...... it is. It is exactly the same model that was featured in yesterday's POD. I am willing to bet that push buttons even have the colored markings on them.
--Charles--
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Post# 30446-6/19/2003-12:16 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore on ebay (My aunt's washing machine! (To Jason):)
MESSAGE: "Jason":
Now.... you always said that you have wanted a push button LK washer. Now is your chance to get one.
Are you going to make a push to get this one??? And are going to start planning a trip to New Orleans???
--Charles--
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Post# 30447-6/19/2003-12:18 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore on ebay (My aunt's washing machine! (To Jason):)
MESSAGE: "Jason":
Correction........ I mean are you going to Chicago to pick it up should you bid on it and win it???
--Charles--
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Post# 30448-6/19/2003-12:33 ||| JAKINS (Kissimmee, Fl.)
SUBJECT: RE: Am I The Only One Who OVERSUDSING happens to? (Gain HE)
MESSAGE: Andrew Gain he is here in orlando at Winn Dixie and Publix.
and it works great.
John
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Post# 30449-6/19/2003-12:34 ||| JAKINS (Kissimmee, Fl.)
SUBJECT: RE: Out With the New and In With the Old (Dryer )
MESSAGE: No this one doesn't. I wish it did
John
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Post# 30450-6/19/2003-13:42 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: 1957 Bendix Combination Washer-dryer
MESSAGE: Even then, I don't think a STARTING bid of $5,000 is reasonable......
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Post# 30451-6/19/2003-13:46 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1957 Bendix Combination Washer-dryer
MESSAGE: The auction ended with no bids, I recieved a blank email from the seller today - may have been trying to send pics but the message was blank. I emailed him back to see if they might be still interested in selling and to find some pics somehow...we'll see.
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Post# 30452-6/19/2003-14:13 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: RE: 1957 Bendix Combination Washer-dryer
MESSAGE: Hey I have a restored 1961 Whirlpool washer I'll sell for $4500.00!! (-:
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Post# 30453-6/19/2003-15:56 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: 1957 Bendix Combination Washer-dryer
MESSAGE: If I had a $5000.- appliance dream I would call that a nightmare.
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Post# 30454-6/19/2003-16:04 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: 1957 Bendix Combination Washer-dryer (Insurance question)
MESSAGE: If vintage appliances would have that much value, you and Robert and some other members have a fortune worth of appliances. Does that require a special insurance? I could imagine such a collection is not covered by the normal home insurance. Ofcourse money can't replace these appliances but if something happens you have at least money to start with.
Just wondering,
Louis
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Post# 30455-6/19/2003-17:07 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: 1957 Bendix Combination Washer-dryer (Insurance question)
MESSAGE: I would most definitely think that some form of insurance would be worth having. Most of these appliance collections are worth well over $10,000.00. I would not be surprised if some collections are worth as much as the property their housed in! There are many business, in fact, that are FAR more concerned about the value of their inventory then the building it's housed in.
MrCoffee
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Post# 30456-6/19/2003-18:36 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1957 Bendix Combination Washer-dryer (Insurance question)
MESSAGE: I've often wondered this same thing - it might be worth a call to my insurance agent, after the initial bewilderment wears off, I'm sure a rider could be put on the policy for some of the more rare machines that are permanent pieces of the collection. Not only do some of us have rare machines, but the parts inventories certainly have monetary value as well. It would be a sad, sad day to lose everything in a disaster, but even worse would be having to go to a store to choose an "interim" washer and dryer - that would be truly horrible!
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Post# 30457-6/19/2003-19:00 ||| Neptune2000 (Florence, Sc)
SUBJECT: Insurance... collectables etc...
MESSAGE: Sirs,
I'm not an agent, but have from time to time had highly collectable " things " that needed to be covered in the event of loss etc... Most companies require a seperate scheduel that is to say listing, of all of these , in excruciating detail - pictures of [ oriental rugs, silver, crystal etc ]
and occasionally voucher's from a third party verifying the value. Frankly - it's all a real pain!
You might be well served to take pictures, or video's ( confirming " running " condition and store them in a safe deposit box... at least that way you could be sure of being able to confirm they are in your possession - OH - one other thing - be sure YOU are pictured with your appliance or part collection or there can be a dispute whether or not they were actually " yours ".
Hope this didn't wreck everyone's day.
Neptune2000
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Post# 30458-6/19/2003-19:55 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore on ebay (My aunt's washing machine!)
MESSAGE: They're even f a r t h e r from Florida!
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Post# 30459-6/19/2003-19:59 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: 1957 Bendix Combination Washer-dryer (Insurance question)
MESSAGE: ....all insurance questions aside....this entire auction sounds quite fishy to me!
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Post# 30460-6/19/2003-20:30 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT: needed Unimatic motor part found
MESSAGE: Hi, everyone.
Long time no post.
When I first got my '52 Frigidaire washer, my motor switch/stalling problem on the machine was temporarily cured by a spray of electronic cleaner into the switch area at the bottom of the motor.
It started up again in a dramatic way last week with smoke filling the basement, and fire extinguisher blasting. (Always have one handy guys!) There wasn't much left of the switch. It was almost all burned away.
With previous Yahoo photo direction and posted club notes from Robert and Greg, I was able to remove the pump assembly and motor without complication. I just hope it goes back together (without leaks) as easily!
Thanks to John L. I was able to find a new motor switch and contact plate ("the last one," I was told) from a appliance store in Berea, Ohio. Hopefully I'll have it within a week. It is going to a motor shop for installing it into the motor however.
Sorry about the panicky phone calls Robert. It may all work out after all.
P.S. If anyone needs a Unimatic spin solenoid, oil pump kit, torque spring or cork pump seals, let me know. I've got a number of them from a recent parts find in the Detroit area.
- Ken
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Post# 30461-6/19/2003-21:10 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: frigidiare Washer all fixed
MESSAGE: Put the new Bellow in this evening and fixed the water fill valve plus i cleaned up the rubber gaskets and the insides.. shes good to go anyone wanna buy it now hehehe
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/oldappliancenut/vwp?.dir=/Frigidaire&.src=ph&.dnm=Washer.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/oldappliancenut/lst%3f%26.dir=/Frigidaire%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 30462-6/19/2003-22:31 ||| jmm63 (Verona, NJ)
SUBJECT: Top Load Dryer
MESSAGE: Not that this is a vintage machine, but has anyone seen the new Fisher/Paykell top load DRYER? Theres an ad for it in the latest issue of "This old house' Can't wait to see one in person,
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Post# 30463-6/19/2003-23:09 ||| windycitybear (Chicago)
SUBJECT: RE: Top Load Dryer (Careful!!!)
MESSAGE: Unless you are a member of the "click" in here you will get your wrist slapped for such a post!
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Post# 30464-6/20/2003-00:14 ||| washerlover (northern California)
SUBJECT: Need to Make Room!
MESSAGE: I have to make room for my 1972 Frigidaire twins and 1984 Whirlpool twins so need to sell my like new 1998 GE matching washer & dryer. (washer model WBXR2060, dryer model DBL333) Plan to post on ebay but thought I'd mention it here in case anyone is interested. (hope I don't get into trouble for posting this since 1998 is hardly "vintage"....!)
Thanks,
Todd
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Post# 30465-6/20/2003-07:15 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Top Load Dryer (how does that work?)
MESSAGE: Is it like a H-axis top loading washing machine?
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Post# 30466-6/20/2003-07:29 ||| andrewinorlando (Winter Park, FL)
SUBJECT: RE: Am I The Only One Who OVERSUDSING happens to? (Gain HE)
MESSAGE: Thanks, John, I'll look for it next time I'm shopping there!!
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Post# 30467-6/20/2003-07:40 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: frigidiare Washer all fixed
MESSAGE: OAN, I'm guessing the last pix in the series is the actual "filtrator". When you have time could you show more pix of it? I understand how condenser dryers work (have one) but the whole filtrator deal facinates me!
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Post# 30468-6/20/2003-08:07 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: frigidiare Washer all fixed (More pics)
MESSAGE: here ya go
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/oldappliancenut/lst?.dir=/Frigidaire&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/
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Post# 30469-6/20/2003-08:37 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Top Load Dryer (Careful!!!)
MESSAGE: Well hi there Ross, nice to see you.
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Post# 30470-6/20/2003-09:16 ||| COMBOBOY (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: frigidiare Washer all fixed (More pics)
MESSAGE: OAN, thanks for the quick response. What I was hoping for was pix of the "pull out unit" and maybe some interior shots of where the unit connects so I can get a better idea on how it operates. Thanks,
Tom
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Post# 30471-6/20/2003-23:26 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore on ebay (My aunt's washing machine!)
MESSAGE: Vintage washers and bears have one thing in common, the best ones are never close by.
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Post# 30472-6/21/2003-09:02 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: Speed Queen with electronic controls
MESSAGE: There is a Speed Queen set for sale on eBay and it has electronic controls. I've never seen electronice Speed Queens, does anyone have a picture?
Louis
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2330008224&category=20714
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Post# 30473-6/21/2003-10:35 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: Speed Queen with electronic controls (my speed queen dryer)
MESSAGE: they aren't the best machine
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/oldappliancenut/vwp?.dir=/My+Photos&.src=ph&.dnm=SQ+Controls.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/oldappliancenut/lst%3f%26.dir=/My%2bPhotos%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 30474-6/21/2003-11:40 ||| Mcintosh (Fayetteville NY)
SUBJECT: 1970'3 Maytag Porta-Washer I Dryer
MESSAGE: Hi! Does any one know if there is any value to portable Maytag Washer & Dryer. They were purchased in 1974 and both do work They are green, in excellent condition and have instruction manuels with them.
The model numbers are:
Maytag Porta-Washer, Model A50 Maytag Dryer Model DE50
If anyone has ANY information I would really appreciater hearing from you! Thanks so much! Donna
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Post# 30475-6/21/2003-11:44 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Speed Queen with electronic controls
MESSAGE: I don't have a picture, but I have seen them. The local Western Auto store had a pair on display some years ago.
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Post# 30476-6/21/2003-12:19 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Speed Queen with electronic controls (DADoES.....)
MESSAGE: About the Speed Queens with electronic controls.......... if I am not mistaking, I think that these were introduced either in the late 1980's or the sometime during the early/mid 1990's. I think I have seen these around here in D. C. during that time as well.
If I am not mistaking, I think Sears was carrying these as well. It had to be right around 1986 or after, when Sears has began their "Brand Central" format. Speed Queen (and Amana) was one of the first brands they began carrying at that time.
Do you think that "THAT" Speed Queen electronic pair was the pair that Amana has modeled their first (and only) electronics from later on???
--Charles--
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Post# 30477-6/21/2003-14:49 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Speed Queen with electronic controls (my speed queen dryer)
MESSAGE: Thanks!! You answered a remaining question too with this picture. I was wondering if the dryer was electronic too. Did you have problems with it?
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Post# 30478-6/21/2003-16:08 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: Goin To Get Grammy's Kenmore
MESSAGE: Guys,
I would really like to be able to get the Kenmore that is on e-bay. I would like to not be over bid on it . I know that some of you here have expressed an interest in it...but I would like to be give the opportunity first. I have space and it will be paired with a matching dryer that I found in Battle Creek just this last Thursday.
Thanks
Chad
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Post# 30479-6/21/2003-16:08 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: Goin To Get Grammy's Kenmore
MESSAGE: Guys,
I would really like to be able to get the Kenmore that is on e-bay. I would like to not be over bid on it . I know that some of you here have expressed an interest in it...but I would like to be give the opportunity first. I have space and it will be paired with a matching dryer that I found in Battle Creek just this last Thursday.
Thanks
Chad
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Post# 30480-6/21/2003-20:26 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Goin To Get Grammy's Kenmore (Buy it Now for $65.00)
MESSAGE: Chad,
Are you talking about the hardley used Kenmore that has the buy it now for $65.00?
I think that $65.00 more than a great price for this machine. Why don't you Buy It Now for the $65.00, and then you won't have to worry about it anymore.
I am sure that lot's of people have interest in this machine that are not in our club here, and are waiting like you to bid on it the last minute.
Also, if someone tells this seller that this machine is worth more, she can pull it from Ebay if there are no bids on it. If you buy it now, she has to go with the sale.
Gee, I hope that you are talking about the Kenmore with the drop down cover on the controls. It is a very nice machine.
Brent
Brent
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Post# 30481-6/22/2003-20:00 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: Busy Weekend
MESSAGE: FINALLY! A DRY, SUNNY WEEKEND!
I spent the majority of it transplanting the 1-18 gas and electric dryer bodies.
It was definitely not as easy as doing a washer. Worked from about 11 am until 9:30 pm on Saturday. I finally quit when I couldn't see anymore. I did finish the gas dryer last night.
The poppy set is the one I won on e-bay last August. The dryer was electric. The washer worked (according to the owner) but needed a new timer. He gave me the washer for free.
About a month ago, I won a white 1-18 gas dryer on e-bay.
Sunday, I pulled out the Kenmore set, dragged in the gas dryer and hooked it up to the gas line. It ran just fine.
Next, I did a head transplant on the washer. Actually had a matching control panel that matched the dryer.
Made the final connections to the washer and sent Rhinnie into the house to round up some laundry. Washer ran fine, except for spinning. It was a little on the slow side, but like magic, it revved up and now is working fine. It may be because it hadn't been used in a few years.
The dryer did a great job, too. The huge drum is great for permanent press. So much room.
Hope all is well in Applianceville.
Steve 1-18
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Post# 30482-6/22/2003-20:01 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Busy Weekend (Oops! Forgot the link!)
MESSAGE: Oops! Forgot the link!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/svb14_2003/lst?.dir=/June+2003+Part+2&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/&.view=t
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Post# 30483-6/22/2003-20:43 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: Another new Member 1979 Frig
MESSAGE: another new mamber of the household needs a paint job
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/oldappliancenut/lst?&.dir=/79+frig&.src=ph&.view=t&start=1&.rand=62314115715
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Post# 30484-6/22/2003-20:51 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: GE pullout dishwasher new member in home
MESSAGE: just got her today works pretty good too..
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/oldappliancenut/lst?&.dir=/ge+Dishwasher&.src=ph&.view=t&start=1&.rand=62315023903
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Post# 30485-6/22/2003-21:19 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: Maytag Question
MESSAGE: AN502 This is the model Number of the maytag machine would like to know the year it is Please
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Post# 30486-6/22/2003-22:20 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: Sixties Whirlpool Washer
MESSAGE: Sixties Whirlpool Washer
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2330991424&category=42233
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Post# 30487-6/22/2003-22:28 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Another new Member 1979 Frig
MESSAGE: Ah yes, the old "keys in the lid switch" trick. Cool Frigidaires dude. You still live in PA? I'm headin up to Knoebels in a few months.
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Post# 30488-6/22/2003-22:28 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Another new Member 1979 Frig
MESSAGE: Ah yes, the old "keys in the lid switch" trick. Cool Frigidaires dude. You still live in PA? I'm headin up to Knoebels in a few months.
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Post# 30489-6/22/2003-22:31 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Sixties Whirlpool Washer (CLEAN)
MESSAGE: That's a clean machine. Don't need no restoration, just plug and play.
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Post# 30490-6/22/2003-22:32 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: Another new Member 1979 Frig (yup)
MESSAGE: yup i'm still in PA
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Post# 30491-6/23/2003-00:20 ||| Bill-MO (Brookline Station, MO)
SUBJECT: POD-Frigidaire W&D with storage space
MESSAGE: Hey Steve...Thanks for the POD...I remember when my father was working for a junior college, I went into the library to look at all the 1960's & 1970's back issues of magazines...the first time I saw a pic of the POD, I thought I was dreaming...I wanted my parents to have one so badly, but they always insisted on having a GE pair. My mom to this day still wishes she had her Mini-Basket washer. I also remember seeing pics in Life magazine about the rare GE Combo Sink/Washer, thinking that it was so neat to have something like that as well.
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Post# 30492-6/23/2003-02:29 ||| windycitybear (Chicago)
SUBJECT: Hey JasonL How bad do you want a Kenmore 800 Pair in Green?
MESSAGE: I just saw a beautiful set here in Chicago at a House sale. They look to me to be early 70s. They are still unsold $300 for the pair. They look like brand new not in a damp basement but on a first floor service porch. Let me know I will buy them for you. If I had a place to put them I would get them myself.
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Post# 30493-6/23/2003-03:12 ||| Foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Busy Weekend
MESSAGE: Quite a job you did there but it paid off. That's a wonderful set. Hope all is well with you too.
Louis
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Post# 30494-6/23/2003-06:35 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: Greetings
MESSAGE: All together now:
Happy birthday to you!
Happy birthday to you!
Happy birthday to Appnut
Happy birthday to you!
Best wishes, Bob
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Post# 30495-6/23/2003-07:23 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Greetings
MESSAGE: Happy Birthday, Bobby Bear!!!
Since you're over 20 years old, we'll skip vintage
and call you a "classic"!!! Have a great birthday! Todd
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Post# 30496-6/23/2003-08:25 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Greetings
MESSAGE: Happy Birthday Bob!
I hope you have a great day, and do something nice for yourself!
Best Wishes!
Brent
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Post# 30497-6/23/2003-08:29 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Greetings (Happy Birthday!!)
MESSAGE: Happy Birthday
And Happy Washing
Peter
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Post# 30498-6/23/2003-08:34 ||| laundromat (florida)
SUBJECT: maytag washwer dryer combination bank on ebay
MESSAGE: There is a Maytag washer/dryer combinaion coin bank up for bids on ebay!!!!!!!!!!!item number is 3614856825.
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Post# 30499-6/23/2003-09:25 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Another new Member 1979 Frig
MESSAGE: Beautiful 1-18, but that is not a '79... More like a '70-73, judging by the control panel graphics... Great machine!
-ph
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Post# 30500-6/23/2003-09:26 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Greetings
MESSAGE: Happy Birthday, Bob!
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Post# 30501-6/23/2003-10:08 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Greetings
MESSAGE: And another Happy Birthday!
Bear Hugz,
Luigi
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Post# 30502-6/23/2003-11:04 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Greetings
MESSAGE: I second that wish, Bob - be kind to yourself today!!
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Post# 30503-6/23/2003-11:43 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Greetings (yay)
MESSAGE: Happy Birthday BOB!!!
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Post# 30504-6/23/2003-12:30 ||| geodon2000 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Greetings (make it a "
bob load"
day...)
MESSAGE: happy birthday, bob...
from, da bearz...
geo & jeffy
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Post# 30505-6/23/2003-14:19 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Greetings (make it a )
MESSAGE: Hi Bob, Be sure an add me to that list wishing you a very HAPPY BIRTHDAY!! Hope that you are doing great and having a very special day. Terry
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Post# 30506-6/23/2003-14:40 ||| bendix5 (oregon)
SUBJECT: Happy Birthday
MESSAGE: Bob,
A great big Happy Birthday to you. Hope your year comes with great health, some wealth and a big new automatic washing machine. Cheers
Bendix5 (dan)
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Post# 30507-6/23/2003-16:21 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: Natal anniversary greetings!
MESSAGE: A most happy birthday to Bobbie, and a Bob-load of happiness all year!!!
Rich
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Post# 30508-6/23/2003-18:08 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: GE pullout dishwasher new member in home (Congratulations)
MESSAGE: I conversed back & forth with Oopagirl re: this dishwasher. I sure wanted it but decided to wait it out; knowing of a few local pull out dishwashers that in time, will come for sale. My dream is to have a GE or Westinghouse pull out dishwasher & in time I will have one. Again , congratulations & I am very pleased to see a member of Applianceville get this great machine. It's the distance to "go fetch or ship" that made my decision for me. Too far. I sure hope to see a few pic's of her finished instalation. Enjoy, Michael
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Post# 30509-6/23/2003-18:37 ||| minijim (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: Todays POD
MESSAGE: SactoTeddyBear - I love the washer and dryer. Is that your groovy loft? I haven't seen the storage unit on top before. Had a great time at the Library this weekend. I was looking at old magazines from the 50' and 60's for "new" models. Got to keep up to date. I'll never know as much as you guys. For me its like looking at vintage cars. Great lines and great chrome.
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Post# 30510-6/23/2003-19:00 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: Classic Australian Washing machine
MESSAGE: I have NEVER seen or heard of one of these before!
Its looks like a very interesting and unusaul design.
And it is located about an hour North of Melbourne.
Hey Gizmo, fancy another washing machine?
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3230295395&category=82
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Post# 30511-6/23/2003-20:08 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Australian Washing machine
MESSAGE: That puppy is sooo ugly it's cute! I would love to see more pix and find out how it worked!
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Post# 30512-6/24/2003-00:32 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy Birthday
MESSAGE: Best wishes Bob!
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Post# 30513-6/24/2003-00:34 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Busy Weekend (Oops! Forgot the link!)
MESSAGE: Excellent work Steve - you're ready to tear into that unimatic now!
That Poppy set is really pretty - probably my first choice of 70's colors, congrats on a completed set.
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Post# 30514-6/24/2003-00:45 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Todays POD (Re: Frigidaire Washer and Dryer w/ Storage Cabinet's: )
MESSAGE: Hi! I certainly wish I did have a house like that, with a Loft for my Washer and Dryer "and" to have that particular Matched Frigidaire Set, along with several other Models and several other Brands of Washer and Dryer's to "Play" with and change around.
Regards, Steve
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Post# 30515-6/24/2003-00:46 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Question
MESSAGE: 1964 - a Super Highlander washer
Does this washer have a small diamond shaped indicator light over the dial?
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Post# 30516-6/24/2003-00:46 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GE pullout dishwasher new member in home
MESSAGE: That is very cool and a fabulous color too!
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Post# 30517-6/24/2003-00:48 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Another new Member 1979 Frig (1971)
MESSAGE: Looks similar, if not exactly like the 1971 model I found a couple of months ago...now deceased.
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Post# 30518-6/24/2003-00:55 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD-Frigidaire W&D with storage space (Re: Frigidaire Washer and Dryer w/Storage Cabinet's:)
MESSAGE: Hey! I know what you mean, I grew up in basically a Kenmore Family for Washer's and Dryer', but my Parent's did have a 1959 Hotpoint Washer and a 1962 Hotpoint E-Dryer and a 1966 Frigidaire Custom Deluxe Washer, among the Kenmore's. Basically a lot of my Relatives had GE Washer's and Dryer's, as with Kitchen GE Appliances too.
Redards, Steve
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Post# 30519-6/24/2003-01:00 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Australian Washing machine
MESSAGE: This is too cool - someone must rescue it...
Would this have been an original Aus. design?
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Post# 30520-6/24/2003-01:02 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: Re: "Happy" Birthday" Bob:
MESSAGE: "Happy Birthday" Bob, I hope that you had a great, special day and that your wish comes True, of your "Dream" Washer and Dryer, whichever Brand and Model they may be.
My best to you of your day, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...
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Post# 30521-6/24/2003-03:18 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: 1957 Bendix Combination Washer-dryer (Insurance question)
MESSAGE: Sounds like having to choose an "interim" washer and dryer would be about as much fun as going to a funeral home to choose a casket for a loved one. I know I would not want to lose my GE Filter-Flo. Not much of a thrill after a disaster, I'm sure!
MrCoffee
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Post# 30522-6/24/2003-03:47 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Australian Washing machine
MESSAGE: Wow, what a machine! Looks like an H-axis machine. I guess that the part of the front was used instead of a doorseal. During the wash there must have been water in there. Maybe even sometimes a laundry item would get in there. It must be rather difficult to unload this machine. Thanks for posting, I had never seen something like this before.
Louis
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Post# 30523-6/24/2003-06:32 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: Kenmore Automatic Washer Model 21900 VGC
MESSAGE: Kenmore Automatic Washer Model 21900 VGC
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2330147242&category=42232
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Post# 30524-6/24/2003-06:50 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Automatic Washer Model 21900 VGC (Program Computer)
MESSAGE: Has Program Computer bought this washing machine?
I was thinking you were going to take the Buy me now option, correct me if I am wrong.
This is to smashing a machine to let go to waste...
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Post# 30525-6/24/2003-06:53 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: 1957 Bendix Combination Washer-dryer (Insurance question)
MESSAGE: I reckon playing around with something like the New Neptune TL could be somewhat amusing.
I rather think that it would be exciting!
BUT if you were in a disaster i guess the prospect of a cheapo GE would be rather ghastly
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Post# 30526-6/24/2003-07:47 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Australian Washing machine
MESSAGE: Oh no!
I would love that machine but I haven't got the room or the time. I have seen something like this before. The one I saw was on the kerbside about ten years ago. It saw was quite tall and the back was off so I could check out the works. It has a simple belt drive, one belt drives the drum direct (spin) and one belt drives the drum through a reduction gear (tumble). It switches between the two speeds by engaging a lever which tensions one belt and releases the other. It is fully manual, you empty it by opening a tap underneath. I tried to pick it up but it was so heavy I couldn't even move it, let alone put it in the car.
I have also seen another Nasco washer, a slightly more modern machine with a glass front porthole door but still fully manual operation. On this later one the drain tap just stuck out the front under the porthole, no hose attachment so you would have to empty it into a bucket. This one was REALLY rough condition and too many years ago when I was not yet collecting.
This Ebay one looks fun but it's not for me.
Chris.
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Post# 30527-6/24/2003-08:46 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Australian Washing machine (Cool Vintage Aussie Washer)
MESSAGE: Wow, what a neat looking vintage washer. I like the idea of the chute to load in the wash. I wonder if its difficult to unload or does that entire chute assembly open for unloading?
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Post# 30528-6/24/2003-16:31 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: Not Going to Get Grammy's Kenmore
MESSAGE: Guys,
Due to unforseen circumstnaces (i.e.not being able to secure a vehicle to move it with) and a "knock back to reality" with a very minor fender bender on my car three days ago, and a lifemate with other ideas on the issue. I will not be able to get the Kenmore at this time.
So hopefully someone else will rescue it. I wish I could but I cannot.
Since we own the house together and he does have "half" the say..Martin said absolutly NO more washers until we get the basement finished. He did bring up a good point that my 1967 Lady Kenmores that I "had to keep" are sitting in my mom's basement and a set of 1978 Frigidaires that we "can't even use" are sitting idle in the laundry room. And a third set of Westinghouse's "In the VERY same laundry room" that we use everyday are allready in there.
Chad, do you really NEED that 1975 Lady Kenmore?
Yes, but signs point to NO!
So I guess i'll have to forefeit this time...Sorry
Chad
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Post# 30529-6/24/2003-17:04 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: 1965 LK set
MESSAGE: There may be an opportunity for someone to purchase a 1965 greatly modified Lady Kenmore set here in the Atlanta area. This is the same set that Bruce got a little while ago. The set is white, the washer has a transplant for extral large capacity with a Dual Action agitator, the dryer needs a motor transplant.
Email me if you are interested...
-ph
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Post# 30530-6/24/2003-17:58 ||| Sqbackye (Phoenix, Arizona)
SUBJECT: Late 50's/early 60's Westinghouse Commercial Laundromat
MESSAGE: I recently acquired a nice Westinghouse Commercial Laundromat from my wife's family cabin. The cabin was built in 1966 and I believe the washer has been in it since. It came from a family friend who owned a laundromat and was updating their equipment, and gave the Westinghouse to my wife's family. It still works, although a bit crazy when spinning, but I've never seen any literature on it. It requires one dime for a full wash, and the model number is: RCM-5 Style: Q72435. Anyone have any info on this washer? Thanks!
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Post# 30531-6/24/2003-21:11 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Kelvinator with Wedgewood Trim
MESSAGE: In a sea of white on white appliances in the stores today, wouldn't this be a thrill...
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3614769407&category=35
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Post# 30532-6/25/2003-01:22 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: Thrift store shazam!
MESSAGE: I have been going to this thrift store for years because they have a used appliance center. Occasionaly I will stop bye and stroll thru hopping to find the laundry set of my dreams, only to be slapped in the face with the tons of older DAA Kenmores and Whirlpools, with an older maytag here and there,very boring to say the least, until today!
Today there were 2 Westinghouse Spacemate washers in white and nearly mint! Next to that was a GE stackable that looked more like an old Hooover pair than anything GE. And if that wasn't enough, an older Kenmore pair in Avacado next to a top opening Whirlpool dishwasher with rear console. Had some collector liquidated his collection? The Westinghouses were marked $200 each and they looked brand new. I looked them over very carefully and noted how clean they were. The GE stackable was beige and marked $200. The washer was the type with the bi-fold lid and rear mounted "bed-of-nails" lint filter. The matching dryer also appeard to be ib great shape as it sat on the matching stand. The Avacado Kenmores were in Ok shape, never saw one with a copper control panel, but it looked just like the one Larry bought a while back, just in Avacodo. $125 for the washer, $75 for the dryer. And finally that whirlpool dish washer. Big crome handle on the front and the top rack split as you raised the lid. One metal spray arm at the bottom and a plastic one in the center. Control panel was a little faded, but overall in decent shape for $125.00.
If I didn't already own a fridgemore I would have picked up one of the Westinghouses, they truely looked like they had been in a time bubble and to find 2 in the same "like new" shape! Wow!
-Alex
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Post# 30533-6/25/2003-04:15 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinator with Wedgewood Trim (but no window)
MESSAGE: What good is a Kelvi with no window? It's still a Kelvi and there's always plexiglass but it's nice to have a window.
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Post# 30534-6/25/2003-04:58 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinator with Wedgewood Trim
MESSAGE: OMG!!!! I've seen a lot of Wedgewood stuff in that design on fleamarkets lately. No I know what it's for, decorating the laundryroom!
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Post# 30535-6/25/2003-05:25 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: Siemens toploading dryers
MESSAGE: Fisher & Paykel are claiming they are the first company to bring out a toploading dryer matching a toploading washer. I thought that was rubbish and asked a German collector if he had anything on it. He started collecting brochures long before I even thought of it. He sent me this scan (thank you Uwe!) I think these washers and dryers are from the seventies, at least they look like that. After this pic there is a scan from a 2001 Brandt brochure with their toploading dryers. Fisher & Paykel, eat your heart out!
Louis
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/vwp?.dir=/Toploading+dryers&.dnm=Siemens2.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 30536-6/25/2003-05:47 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Siemens toploading dryers (those machines are tiny!)
MESSAGE: I wonder how much laundry one of those can do.
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Post# 30537-6/25/2003-07:56 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT: RE: ALWAYS LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE OF LIFE (Packard!!! -off topic, I know!-old stove and fridge, Westinghouse, etc.)
MESSAGE: Chad,
It is SO cool that your family has a '56 Packard Patrician. I believe that is the model just underneath the TOL Caribbean(my SO is Puerto Rican- it'd be neat someday to have a Caribbean to go with his heritage- they are pretty pricey these days.) coupe and convert. I also believe it was the last year for "real" Packards; they became rebadged Studebakers after that. I'd love to hear more sometime about the car. Write me at Wireman2222@hotmail.com
I also had White/Westinghouse (white) spacemates up on Beaver Island in a house I rented for 3 years. Probably from the late 70's when the cottage was built. They didn't take a very big load, but worked well. God knows I ran some FILTHY work clothes through them! I was in the house a few months ago; I hated to see that the washer was developing rust around the window.
I would've posted sooner, but I was up on Beaver Island working. I did get to see a cool old 50's Hotpoint stove(pushbutton burner controls and the deep well cooker.) and an old Frigidaire ref. while on a service call (I'm an electrician). They were in an old cottage on Lake Michigan that has yet to be torn down or gentrified. No washer onsite- don't know what they did before we finally got a laundromat(all front loaders- less waste water to treat!) up there. Probably took the clothes out to the lake and beat them over a rock!
Take Care,
Duane
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Post# 30538-6/25/2003-12:45 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: Re: Magic Chef Washer and E-Dryer Mates:
MESSAGE: Hi! Club Friend's, I just bought an approximate Mid-80s Magic Chef Washer and Dryer on E-Bay and the person only lives
1-hour Drive away for me to get them this weekend. They look quite a lot similar to my Brother's Admiral Set that he bought new through M.Wards around the Mid-80s, except for the Console's being a little different, but they all seem to have the same Chrome-Look Control Knobs. I'm hoping that the Washer has the "Burp-UP" Lint Filtering, but it is probably new enough to have a Self-Clean Lint-Filtering System, oh well. I got them on E-Bay for $10.00/both Machines, what a deal for me. I did the "Buy Now" purchase and can't wait to get them this coming weekend. I will be glad when I can get a Digital Camera, so I can share my finds as well as you other Club Members are able to do, maybe some day soon...
Best Regards, SactoTeddyBear...
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Post# 30539-6/25/2003-13:22 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Ariel comes to Minnesota/tabs a passing fancy?
MESSAGE: After driving a co-worker home the other night whose car is in repair, I stopped at a suburban sister location of my usual grocery chain. There I saw for the first time in a local store, Ariel powder (in a box, not in a bag). I also saw boxes of "Purex Classic" powder (big, old fashioned type boxes), and of course all the usual liquids.
However, there were only two boxes of Purex tabs and a few Wisk tabs. I bought the 2 boxes of Purex tabs as they were on sale. The last two Targets I've been to had no detergent in tab form at all. I'm beginning to wonder if the current incarnation of tabs is going the way of Salvo? Though I'm really hoping not since I am very accustomed to using them and really enjoy them.
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Post# 30540-6/25/2003-15:07 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Ariel comes to Minnesota/tabs a passing fancy?
MESSAGE: Scott, I hope the tabs don't go away I really like them. If you go to Purex wed site, you can download coupon.
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Post# 30541-6/25/2003-17:39 ||| Gman47 (INDIANAPOLIS)
SUBJECT: SPIRALATOR
MESSAGE: I AM SHEARCH OF A SPIRALATOR FOR A SPINDRIER MODEL# SDK SERIAL#2413 IF YOU NEED MORE INFO PLEASE CONTACT ME
LIQUORMAN47@AOL.COM
GARY PAYNE
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Post# 30542-6/25/2003-18:03 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: RE: ALWAYS LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE OF LIFE (Packard!!! -off topic, I know!-old stove and fridge, Westinghouse, etc.)
MESSAGE: Duane,
Our 1955 Patrician is currently down in South Bend at the Studebaker National Museum. My dad and I "donated" (i'll explain that more in a minute) so it would be in a good home.
He and I do NOT have time for it...but we wanted to keep it in the family but not have to worry about storage. Basically if we claim donation to the museum they pay for it's upkeep,insurance and etc..but we do NOT sign over the title. We still have ownership..but we have to leave it there for a period of 1 years up to lifetime if we choose.
I misyeared the car as well. It's actually a 55'. Yeah it was under the Caribbean and equal to the 400. It's a big boy and drives like a dream..but...another reason we did donate it is because the "transmission" is kinda weak and if we drove it all the time it would just crap itself and then we'd have to dump more moohlah into it. I'm kinda car dumb so go with me on the color it's kinda a bronzish reddish copper color..with LOADS of chrome. Beige and brown interior and a dash that Ralph Nader would have had a field day over.
On to the Appliances...
Yes my Westinghouse is havin a bit of a rust problem at the bottom of the look in door. I sanded it down and put a thin layer of bondo sanded it smooth, and spray painted it with a rust inhibitor paint and just starting to notice that it's showing again. I did this about 1 1/2 years ago so....
I was looking into replacing the door entirely but am concerned that Frigidaire has completely dumped all stock on the older models. so Maybe I'll have to look for a donor door...Probably with the same problem. I've shoved many things into that washer that I shouldn't have . Car rugs, rugs from the house..comforters that should have went into a triple loader...shoes,boots,winter coats,drapes,beadspreads, shoprags,a whole tent that had mildewed and all washed perfectly I thought. I have been the hardest on this washer than any other appliance I have ever owned. And it's served me well. And it states that it WAS built in Mansfield Ohio, just not by Westinghouse..by then it was White-West.
Cool that you are an electrician. I wish i would have known about you about 8 months ago when my laundryroom was remodeled and made ready for 2 sets of machines. That part of the house is actually on top of a crawl space...because it was added about 1994 or so JUST before I bought the house as a first floor laundry and pantry off the kitchen..so we had to crawl under there...GROSS YUCK PHEWEY...to do the piping and the electrical...that was a chore but it all worked out anyway.
Yours
Chad
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Post# 30543-6/25/2003-18:27 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Purex tabs great but...
MESSAGE: You gotta make sure that they dissolve completely before putting clothes in or they'll leave white spots on your clothes. How do you do that in a front loader. Well, on the Frigemore you gotta set it to "heavy" so it will flll and tumble at the same time. Otherwise they're awesome and HE compatible.
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Post# 30544-6/25/2003-18:50 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: RE: Purex tabs great but...
MESSAGE: I don't have any front loaders,but they work fine in my old Filter-Flo.I just put the tablet in the lint tray,and it dissolves pronto when the machine shifts to high gear. In the 61 Whirlpool I Place the tablet in the Magic Mix lint filter,and watch it "snow" through the glass window when the machine starts.I love the Purex myself.I think the quality of the water being used has a lot to do with cleaning performance.Water temp is important too. I almost never use a cold wash.I value my clothes,and the machines too much for that. Rick R.
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Post# 30545-6/25/2003-22:40 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: Sixties Whirlpool Washer
MESSAGE: Sixties Whirlpool Washer
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2330991424&category=42233
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Post# 30546-6/25/2003-23:25 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Sixties Whirlpool Washer
MESSAGE: That's a great machine with the see through Magic Mix filter, in very nice condition.
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Post# 30547-6/25/2003-23:41 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: 71 (?) Sears
MESSAGE: The Lady Kenmore Sears washer is back on auction again, the buy it now down to $45. Hope someone can get it! I think it is a '71 since it still has the metal handle on the lid. I'm thinking that may have been the first year of the console cover too, I know there were some made without. I wonder if it has the plain buttons or the ones with the colored stripes on the bottom.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=42232&item=2331592807
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Post# 30548-6/26/2003-00:02 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: Some Laundry Humor, to "Brighten" everyone's Spirit's":
MESSAGE: Hi! Club Friend's, I thought that this would give everyone a good Laugh and "Brighten" everyone's "Spirit's" as well. I hope that you anjoy this.
My best to everyone, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...
> Subject: > Men and Laundry...
> > > Men and Laundry...
> > >
> > > One day my housework-challenged husband, decided to
> > > wash his sweatshirt.
> > >
> > > Seconds after he stepped into the laundry room, he
> > > shouted to me, "What setting do I use on the washing machine?"
> > >
> > > It depends," I replied. "What does it say on your shirt?"
> > > He yelled back, "Dallas Cowboys"
> > >
> > > And they say blondes are dumb.
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Post# 30549-6/26/2003-03:06 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Siemens toploading dryers (those machines are tiny!)
MESSAGE: Jason,
These machines can dry 4kg of laundry so that is a little more than 9lbs. I think that is quite a lot considering the size of them. I would LOVE to get my hands on a matching set of those.
Louis
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Post# 30550-6/26/2003-05:18 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Ariel comes to Minnesota/tabs a passing fancy?
MESSAGE: I have noticed that the nearest KMart and Wal Mart stores carry almost nothing in the way of powders or tabs anymore. Almost all of the shelf space is devoted to liquids. The only powders on the shelves are Tide regular, Dreft and Purex. Also, the KMart has a clearance section with boxes of Surf Tabs marked down from $5.00 to $4.00 (some sale!!). Also neither store carries any of the Surf powders anymore, and neither do the major grocery stores in my area and there is not a Fab product on any shelves anywhere - liquid or powder. Hmmmm........
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Post# 30551-6/26/2003-06:17 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: put 2 Frigidaire washers up for sale guyz
MESSAGE: my 2 Frigidaire's are up for sale just wanted to let everyone know
http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/oldappliancenut/lst?.dir=/79+frig&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/oldappliancenut/lst?.dir=/Frigidaire&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/
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Post# 30552-6/26/2003-06:49 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Some Laundry Humor, to "Brighten" everyone's Spirit's":
MESSAGE: Women can be pretty cruel. Not all men are stupid monkeys like most women would like to believe.
Damn women.
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Post# 30553-6/26/2003-06:50 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Siemens toploading dryers (those machines are tiny!)
MESSAGE: Yeah. That's pretty good. Like a standard load in a 50s Frigidiare.
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Post# 30554-6/26/2003-07:22 ||| Jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Kenmore Washer on Ebay
MESSAGE: Does anyone know if this machine has 3 speeds, and what options are listed on the push-buttons? Thanks, Don
LINK: http://CLICK HERE TO GO TO Don's LINK
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Post# 30555-6/26/2003-07:31 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Australian Washing machine (Cool Vintage Aussie Washer)
MESSAGE: I dont know.
I sure hope someone rescues it. I wish I could but I am moving into a flat on the weekend and dont even have a garage for my car :(
Its such a cute washing machine.
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Post# 30556-6/26/2003-07:37 ||| RE563 (Ft. Lauderdale)
SUBJECT: RE: put 2 Frigidaire washers up for sale guyz (frididaire washer up for sale)
MESSAGE: Very much interested--would like to see the photos of the other one up for sale. If you could e-mail me and the asking price for each. E-mail to RE563@aol.com
Thanks so very much
Robert
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Post# 30557-6/26/2003-09:00 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Australian Washing machine (Cool Vintage Aussie Washer)
MESSAGE: Hi arrrooohhh
The pressure is immense....
Sorry, not this one.
The chute is fixed, in reality it didn't seem as poky to get into as it looks in the photo. The one I saw didn't have that lid on top of the chute, though it may have beeen missing.
Chris.
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Post# 30558-6/26/2003-11:30 ||| keymatic (Surrey.U.K)
SUBJECT: RE: SPIRALATOR
MESSAGE: Hi Gary
I remeber that you were the winning bid on this appliance on Ebay.
Is the machine working o.k, I live in the UK, and was going to bid for it but was a bit weary, not knowing whether it was going to work or not.
Gook luck with finding the "Spiralator"
Keith
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Post# 30559-6/26/2003-12:22 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: 71 (?) Sears (Scott......)
MESSAGE: Hello Scott:
Maybe I can answer your question. The Lady Kenmore that you see re-listed on "e-bay" is a 1969-71 model. It is a three speed model with the Vari-Flex agitator inside of it. More than likely (though, I could be wrong), it is probably the one with the push buttons with the colored bars either on the top or the bottom of them, which are dependent on how they are positioned on the control panel. The 1972 model was the first one that didn't have the metal handle on the lid. The 1972 was also the first one that had the plain push buttons on it (though it still had the Vari-Flex agitator and the three speed motor). The finally did away with the three speed motor and the Vari-Flex agitator in the 1974-75 model (also coincidently, that was also the last model with the slide down console cover).
--Charles--
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Post# 30560-6/26/2003-14:11 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: MUSIC FOR COOKING WITH GAS
MESSAGE: music that's rare & well done! Produced by Caloric Corp. Topton, Pa....
not a year in sight on this Lp or sleeve either one...but the cover DOES feature the wall oven version of the gas Ultramatic oven, as well as a counter top installation of the same unit..also a double oven with cooktop version in some color of blue I don't rightly know the name of..
Could this thing be as early as '57, I wonder?...the Lp label looks that way, but it's a capitol custom, turquoise green with silver print...so I'd say no later than '62 or '64. Hi-Fi only. (not stereo) Anyone wanna see or hear this thing? It has Moon River on it, so what year was that? It's fun, once every 20 years or so...
B
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Post# 30561-6/26/2003-15:26 ||| jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: 1-18 Dryer Question
MESSAGE: When Jimmy was here, we hooked up the 1-18 (DG1) gas dryer, and determined it needed a coil kit as it wouldn't ignite. We went to several appliance shops, but it was no longer available. Anybody have any ideas where I might find one? Thanks!
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Post# 30562-6/26/2003-16:15 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 71 (?) Sears (Scott......)
MESSAGE: Thanks Charles. I had thought the colored buttons were after the plain, but I guess it was reversed. I remember that last model. Jon LeFever has one, except it has a Whirlpool agitator. The timer is different with the markings on the machine rather than the dial itself. I always hang onto the memory of that one, not knowing at the time what design travesty and blandness lay ahead...
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Post# 30563-6/26/2003-16:25 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: MUSIC FOR COOKING WITH GAS
MESSAGE: Bob, I had the "smaller" version of that. It was the size of a 45 but played at 33 1/3 in hi fi! Mine included Moon River (and maybe Green Sleaves (?) but the album cover was of a womans head in full makeup of course. She was gazing lovingly at a four burner range top. I haven't seen that thing in years. I will have to launch a search asap!
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Post# 30564-6/26/2003-16:27 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: latest finds
MESSAGE: more pics to share ... ... happy 4th everyone ...
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gregm978/lst?.view=t&.dir=/latest+...+...
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Post# 30565-6/26/2003-16:29 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: 71 (?) Sears (Scott......)
MESSAGE: Now I'm confused! We had the "Sears Best" version of this washer, is that different than the "Lady"? Our harvest gold set had the same control panal, but no color on the buttons and no drop down door. The dryer is still in use in FL, the washer went to the big appliance store in the sky somewhere around 1995.
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Post# 30566-6/26/2003-17:03 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: 71 (?) Sears (Comboboy......)
MESSAGE: "Comboboy":
No.... it probably isn't any different from the 1969-71 Lady which I have just described to "Scott". Yours was probably either the 1966-67 models that the Keatons had in their house when the "Family Ties" series was running on television, or it was the "Feminine Engineered" 1968 models with the slightly taller control panel (a design I wasn't too crazy about). Gold appliances were in existence during the 1960s. Either of those had to be the case since the Lady's were in fact the "Sears Best" models.
Now....... from the late 1960s up until about 1971 (or maybe even 1972....... but I don't know for sure. I don't have a 1972 Sears Catalog to confirm), there was a model that was a step down from the Lady Kenmore that also had the identical control panel that the Lady Kenmores from that era have had. And like the Lady Kenmores of that era, that model has also had 14 push buttons (two rows of seven just like the Lady Kenmore), a Vari-Flex agitator, a detergent dispenser and a lighted console. But the difference between that model and the Lady was that the step down model had a two speed motor as opposed to the Lady having a three speed motor. And also...... during the 1969-71 run, the Lady model of that era was the only one that had the drop down cover. The step down model did not have a drop down cover. Maybe that was the #2 model that you've had. And if that's the case, it couldn't have been a "Sears Best" model either, since the Lady Kenmores were the only machines to carry that label and have that distinction.
So then........ in saying that then, then maybe perhaps, your Ladys were from the mid-to-late 1960s
--Charles--
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Post# 30567-6/26/2003-17:06 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: latest finds
MESSAGE: Very nice Greg! Good to "see" you and thanks for sharing! :-)
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Post# 30568-6/26/2003-19:21 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: latest finds (What a collection Greg!)
MESSAGE: Greg,
Thanks for the great pictures.
I am in love with the style of your 1961 Frigidaire Washer! What a great looking machine! Have you run it yet? Do you know by chance what the spin speed is of that model?
I also love your Kitchen Aid Top Loading Dishwasher! I bet that is fun to hear run! Is that a cast iron lower spray arm?
You are building such a collection of beautiful machines!
Where are the pictures of the Westy twins that you won on Ebay? I would love to see those.
Thanks once again for the pictures!
Brent
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Post# 30569-6/26/2003-20:47 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: latest finds (latest finds)
MESSAGE: Greg
Love the set
Happy Washing
Peter
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Post# 30570-6/27/2003-00:21 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Siemens toploading dryers
MESSAGE: Thanks for the scans, always interesting to see the Euro machines. These top loading dryers are quite interesting - I suppose for space considerations, the stacking front washer and dryer sets were more popular but what a cool idea. I'm surprised nothing like this caught on over here since "we" seem to have always been so afraid of bending and stooping... ;-)
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Post# 30571-6/27/2003-00:24 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: put 2 Frigidaire washers up for sale guyz
MESSAGE: These are very cool finds Brian, have you tried the dryer? How does the filtrator work for you? Do you still have your Kenmore combo? Wish you were closer - sorry to keep missing your calls, working nights bites!
Take care - Greg
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Post# 30572-6/27/2003-00:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: MUSIC FOR COOKING WITH GAS
MESSAGE: I wanna hear it! Have you seen the albums (much later of course) that Amana used to sponsor? I have one but can't get my super-duper turntable to function now...
Greg
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Post# 30573-6/27/2003-00:29 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1-18 Dryer Question
MESSAGE: Did you try Larry at Modern Parts House in Parma, OH? If all else fails, you might try taking it to a HVAC supply house in Minne and see if they have anything that will work for you. Sometimes there are universal coils and valves that will work as a substitute for the original parts. Johnstone or Grainger might be good places to try.
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Post# 30574-6/27/2003-00:31 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: latest finds
MESSAGE: WOW - I love them all!
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Post# 30575-6/27/2003-00:54 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: put 2 Frigidaire washers up for sale guyz (greg)
MESSAGE: yes i still got the combo and yes i tried the dryer but the one belts is bad on the blower so it needs a new one...and the both washer work great
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Post# 30576-6/27/2003-01:04 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities)
SUBJECT: RE: put 2 Frigidaire washers up for sale guyz (I tried to contact you.)
MESSAGE: Unfortunately, your address came up missing. Please post the amount you are asking for each unit, and put some pictures of the other one on your link. Thanks.
MrCoffee
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Post# 30577-6/27/2003-01:36 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: latest finds
MESSAGE: Great finds Greg, congratulations.
Happy washing,
Louis
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Post# 30578-6/27/2003-01:45 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Siemens toploading dryers
MESSAGE: Actually at that time there weren't that many stacking front loading washer and dryer sets that could be stacked, so this was quite a good option for people with lack of space. But they never got popular so after some years I think they disappeared from the market again. For people with real space problems the toploading combos stayed around much longer.
Only later Brandt reintroduced these dryers, I guess they did that especially for the French market where (H-axis) toploaders are very popular. A friend of mine has a toploading set, he has his laundry in a small bathroom under a roof so stacking wasn't an option for him.
Louis
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Post# 30579-6/27/2003-06:34 ||| christfr (st louis mo)
SUBJECT: maytag
MESSAGE: who out there is a maytag expert ?? found a 55 automatic and am having wire problems being that mice had eaten most of them i had to replace the wires and timer now i must have something crossed the poor girl will do everything except agitate and i dont have a proper diagram anyone out there a wire wiz with maytags thanks chris
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Post# 30580-6/27/2003-08:24 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: latest finds
MESSAGE: Hey Greg, great '61 Deluxe Frigidaire by the way. Congrats!
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Post# 30581-6/27/2003-08:25 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: maytag (Wiring Diagram a must!)
MESSAGE: Hi Chris, there is no doubt about it you're going to need the wiring diagram. I know I have one, but everything is packed up and sealed in boxes. We will be moving on 7/5. Hopefully someone else has one to scan for you before then.
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Post# 30582-6/27/2003-08:50 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: maytag (Wiring Diagram a must!)
MESSAGE: Chris,
It should be in your inbox...
Good luck!
Greg
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Post# 30583-6/27/2003-10:35 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: latest finds
MESSAGE: Yes! The 61 Frig is terrific. I hope to see some pics with it up and pulsating soon!
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Post# 30584-6/27/2003-10:41 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT: Today's POD- short cycle
MESSAGE: I noticed that the James DW mentioned in today's stove/DW ad had a cycle of only 10 min!!! I remember hearing that some of the other old DW and most commercial DW have short cycles also. Why is that today's home DW take at least a half hour(usually longer!) to wash those dishes? I'd appreciate any info!
Thanks!
Duane
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Post# 30585-6/27/2003-10:45 ||| salvoboy (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: Filtrator Dryer
MESSAGE: An open question for you Frigidaire guys -
I've always understood the fascination with Frigidaire washers and it's been great to learn more about their history/evolution on the site. My question is about Frigidaire Filtrator dryers in two parts: 1) Was the Filtrator different than other condenser dryers and how? 2) Could you give a brief explanation of how it worked? Was the condensing accomplished by water, by cooler outside air? Have seen some cool pics but don't quite get it. Thanks!
Greg
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Post# 30586-6/27/2003-15:12 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: latest finds (thnx)
MESSAGE: thanks Scott :)
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Post# 30587-6/27/2003-15:19 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: latest finds (What a collection Greg!)
MESSAGE: Thanks Brent, the washer runs but the reset button keeps popping out, especially during agitation and it seems to pop out the same place on the timer, but I am not 100% sure of that. It has an awfully FAST up and down stroke and a shorter one. If I did not know better you would think it was agitating to fast. The turnover is unreal!! I think the spin speed is in the vicinity of 800rpm, but not totally sure. Yes, the Kitchen Aid DW has the cast iron spray arm, this machine does not work at all. I think it needs a new timer, pump and drain pump. The interior has no rust but could definately be reporcelainized. The westy twins I have neglected to take pics of yet, the washer was slightly damaged during shipping and although the exterior of both machines looks good, the interior (not the tub) of the washer is in fair to poor condition, bad hoses, rusted out connections, and missing rubber snubbers. The dryer plays "How dry I am" but needs to be cleaned out, the air flow is terrible. The projects are endless. Glad you liked the pics.
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Post# 30588-6/27/2003-15:20 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: latest finds (latest finds(thnx))
MESSAGE: Thanks Peter !!
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Post# 30589-6/27/2003-15:21 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: latest finds (thnx)
MESSAGE: thanks Greg :)
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Post# 30590-6/27/2003-15:22 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: latest finds (thnx guys !!)
MESSAGE: Thanks Robert, Louis and "lesto" for your comments, glad you guys liked the pics, I feel very lucky to have acquired these machines .........
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Post# 30591-6/27/2003-15:49 ||| bsmntfullosuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: WW2 .45 pistol - barrel by Frigidaire
MESSAGE: One classic appliance I would like to add to my collection!
Originally developed in 1942 for the U.S. Army by the Inland Manufacturing Division of the General Motors Corporation in Dayton Ohio. This single-shot, smooth bore .45 calibre pistol had a dubious history. Intended for mass distribution in enemy occupied territory to incite revolt, the Army refered to it as a "flare pistol" (FP-45) to ensure secrecy.
The Frigidaire plant at Dayton chambered the rough barrels.
Workers at the Guide Lamp plant in Anderson Indiana assembled
a million of these weapons. In Europe the Allied commanders deemed the mass distribution impractical, and very few Liberators were delivered to the resistance forces. Only Chinese forces received many of these weapons and most of them were destroyed.
LINK: http://www.adrax.com/watsons/lib.htm
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Post# 30592-6/27/2003-15:52 ||| bsmntfullosuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: 71 (?) Sears
MESSAGE: Saw a matching dryer in avocado at a thrift store, posted message here a few weeks ago
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Post# 30593-6/27/2003-18:17 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: latest finds (What a collection Greg!)
MESSAGE: Sounds like it's a pulsamatic.
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Post# 30594-6/27/2003-21:31 ||| AndrewInOrlando (Winter Park, FL)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD- short cycle
MESSAGE: Duane....
A lot of the differences are attributable to energy efficiency and amount of water used, the machine's capacity, and the kinds of detergents available now and then, as well as noise. Back then, most detergents accomplished their task using phosphates, which as we know now is a big no-no for the environment. Low-phosphate detergents simply don't clean as well, so a substitute had to be found. Today we rely more on enzyme detergents or chlorine-based detergents, which require time and temperature to do their job, but are gentle to the environment. Also, back then, most machines didn't do things like wash pots and pans or offer other options. Their capacities were also generally smaller then today's machine. I would never cook if my dishwasher couldn't handle the pots and pans!!! Also remember, most machines did not use spray-type water distribution systems, but washed by splashing water onto dishes using an impeller located in the bottom of the tub. This was not only inefficient, but dangerous to your dishes if they became dislodged and fell to the bottom of the machine....they'd be smashed to pieces resulting in a glass shower over the rest of your load. The scientific precision available in a modern machine's wash arm design did not exist back then. I remember that my grandmother had a James in the 50's. It wasn't a terribly good cleaner so most of the time it sat, unused, while they all washed the dishes at the sink. But my mom's 1950's KitchenAid with the spray type wash system was faaaaabulous for its time. It even had a pots and pans cycle and lasted until around 1969 when she bought a Waste King stainless steel dishwasher. Both were noisy, but the KitchenAid seemed to hold so much more then the James could.
I hope that helps answer some of your questions. I'd appreciate any other ideas from other member's of the group about this topic!!!
Andrew
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Post# 30595-6/28/2003-04:26 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: latest finds (Pulsomatic)
MESSAGE: The pulsomatic was a very fast machine in the way of agitation. And yes, the cloths would circulate quite well. The one my Grandmother had was one with a blue agitator, solid tub, with a blue spring-loaded cap that you could open up and pour detergent in. The detergent would go into the center of the agitator, and then she would start the machine. It never sudsed much either, in spite of the soft water. It was because she used Amway's SA-8 in a rather small quantity, and bleached quite frequently when doing whites. The Amway detergent was very low sudsing, even when compared to Tide HE!
What was interesting, was that you could open the lid and watch all four cycles, wash, spin, rinse, spin, and it wouldn't stop. That machine had no safety features, none! We never got hurt by that washer either, because we were very well versed on the dangers of abusing it. Well, one day my Grandmother found a bicycle pump in the machine, and was very upset (for a good reason!). I assured her that I had nothing to do with that incident, and reminded her of how I treat my own equipment. Nothing came out of that (she was very good about giving me the benefit of the doubt). I was not about to have that machine wrecked, and end up having it replaced with a (gasp) Maytag!
With its super fast up and down agitator with the short stroke, and its absence of "safety" features, I really enjoyed that machine. And, my grandmother trusted me around it by myself. It sold with the house when they moved to New Mexico. She had a GE Filter Flo there, but I didn't care much for it. Until, of course, I started putting up with those direct drive machines and Maytags at some laundramats, and compared those with the GE. My money always ended up going to the Filter-Flos because they sudsed more! So now, I'm darn glad I saved that GE that I got from the infamous Konderator Metal Shredder appliance rendering plant. But hey, if someone has an extra Pulsomatic in reasonable condition, I will one day be glad to make an offer....
MrCoffee
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Post# 30596-6/28/2003-04:53 ||| tazman171 (Spokane, Wa)
SUBJECT: Posted 1961 Frigidaire Deluxe Range for sale
MESSAGE: Hy everyone.
I just posted a 1961 Frigidaire Deluxe Range for sale inthe classifieds. Most of the discussions here seem to be about washing machines and I was wondering if I would still have a good chance of selling the range on this site. For anyone interested, info on the stove is;
1961 Frigidaire Deluxe Range Model# RD-20-62 built buy General Motors. White in color. Everything (including the clock) works, only the oven is dirty. 4-burner range with removable oven tray, clock, timers, bottom and side storage drawers, cook-top light, swing out burners. Pictures available at the link below. Dimesions are 40x26x36. Just remodeled kitchen, need to sell. $350 OBO.
LINK: http://prodecipher.netfirms.com/Frigidaire%20RD-20-62.htm
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Post# 30597-6/28/2003-05:34 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Discontinuing Membership (discontinuing membership)
MESSAGE: Don't let a little unpleasantry run you off, simply ignore.
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Post# 30598-6/28/2003-05:50 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Back To Our Show on the "CircleW" Network... (Rinso)
MESSAGE: I saw it for sale in a 99 Cent store here in Los Angeles. It was automatic dishwasher detergent
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Post# 30599-6/28/2003-06:06 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Who is the adult here? (fighting)
MESSAGE: I didn't see it as fighting, just opinions, and a lot of people were totally right. I picked up on the Gay aspect as soon as I joined and was totally amused. It really shouldn't matter anyway, though true, some of the more "racy" comments and innuendos should be left out.
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Post# 30600-6/28/2003-06:28 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: AW6 (Paint Spots)
MESSAGE: What are you using to try and remove the paint spots? Depending on what surface they are on, you can try using Goof-Off (it may damage plastic, though) or car brake fluid (the regular type, not the synthetic or silicone variety) It shouldn't harm plastic if that's what the paint spots are on. If the spots are on baked enamel, neither solution will work.
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Post# 30601-6/28/2003-06:44 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: OVERSUDSING & the Westinghouse Space mate (1955 Kenmore water valve)
MESSAGE: Hmm, I had a 1955 Kenmore, that had the Hot, Medium, Warm temps on it, but it didn't use a bi-metallic function, it actually had 3 solenoids on it (and it was made of BRASS!)
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Post# 30602-6/28/2003-06:52 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Am I The Only One Who OVERSUDSING happens to? (Back in the day...)
MESSAGE: "The little blue jug is..DYNAMO!"
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Post# 30603-6/28/2003-07:00 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: HOSE NUMBER 19026 (19026 hose)
MESSAGE: More info is needed, whose part number is that, Whirlpool's, Sears, or some aftermarket company like Gemline, and what is the model number of the machine?
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Post# 30604-6/28/2003-07:03 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: ALWAYS LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE OF LIFE (Working A/C on a '56 Packard?)
MESSAGE: The fact that a '56 Packard has A/C at all is pretty rare and that it works is REALLY amazing!
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Post# 30605-6/28/2003-07:13 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Out With the New and In With the Old (110/220 volt conversion for Westy)
MESSAGE: It would seem that a converted 220 volt electric dryer would use up ALL the capacity of a 20 amp 110 circuit (and that's if you went totally regulation and used a 20 amp rated 110 volt outlet with the one sideways terminal rather than the usual 15 amp rated one) in which case seems like you might as well give it what it wants and get normal drying speeds.
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Post# 30606-6/28/2003-07:21 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: POD, Avacado Color (Avocado color)
MESSAGE: Amazingly, it seems that all the manufacturers agreed on the shade a certain color shold be, since they figure they might have to match some other brand's color. So, from what I've seen, there aren't different "shades", except for the "shadow" some makers outlined their products with on the edges.
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Post# 30607-6/28/2003-07:33 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: appliance colors
MESSAGE: Further on the color shade issue, back in the 70's we had a Gaffers & Sattler range that was brown. When our refrigerator died, we purchased a new Montgomery Ward Signature (Tappan) in brown to match the range. Then, when we re-did the kitchen in 1978, we purchased all the new appliances in Coffee to match the the older refrigerator and range. These consisted of a matching set of Lady K Solid State washer & dryer (first year), "Sears Best" Solid State dishwasher (also first year, and which I'm about to totally re-build in the next couple of weeks), and a trash compactor. The dishwasher and compactor came with interchangeable color panels, and in all cases amongst the different brands and ages (Gaffers & Sattler 1960, Tappan 1972, D & M 1978, Whirlpool 1978)the brown color EXACTLY matched, the only difference being that the refrigerator and range had the shadow accents applied.
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Post# 30608-6/28/2003-08:06 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: ALWAYS LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE OF LIFE (Packard!!! -off topic, I know!-old stove and fridge, Westinghouse, etc.)
MESSAGE: A '55 Packard with working A/C? Even rarer...
To fix the rust properly, you really need to remove the window. There is a product that wil convert the rust to a different compound (don't remember the name of the product, but it's used to repair rust in cars), and then you can paint it and replace the window. You might also want to put silicone sealer on the gasket so it REALLY keeps the moisture out, rather than just relying on the gasket alone.
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Post# 30609-6/28/2003-08:15 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: MUSIC FOR COOKING WITH GAS (Music For Cooking With Gas)
MESSAGE: Moon River was written for the movie "Breakfast At Tiffany's" (1961) so there's your date reference
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Post# 30610-6/28/2003-08:27 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD- short cycle (short dishwasher washing times)
MESSAGE: I noticed too that older dishwashers had short wash times. My Grandmother's 1963 Frigidaire with the spray tube technology was relatively short onit's "heavy" cycle compared to today's dishwashers and I noticed even then (I was 10 years old) that it didn't wash very well. I'm convinced that that and having to pre-rinse the dishes put a lot of people off from considering dishwashers to be a "necessity" until the late 60's. And even today, I have to constantly stop people from wasting water pre-rinsing dishes before putting them into our dishwasher, it really became ingrained in people that they had to do that, long after it was no longer necessary.
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Post# 30611-6/28/2003-08:36 ||| laundromat (florida)
SUBJECT: 1962 FRIGIDAIRE IMPERIAL TOY WASHER item *3614856825 on EBAY!!!!!
MESSAGE: saw the Imperial model by Wolverine on EBAY!It has the 3 ring agitator and not only agitates but also spins!!!I used to have it and it really does work well considering it has no rubber energy ring lol.There is also the matching range and refrigerator on other entries.Log onto EBAY and go to FRIGIDAIRE to see them.
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Post# 30612-6/28/2003-08:37 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: 19026 FSP # HOSE, & MOON RIVER
MESSAGE: That's the FSP number of the tub to pump hose on my '55 kenmore...but I was able to replace it with sump hose from an Equator Combo which I had stripped for spare parts a few years ago..Grandma Kenmore has never had greater vigor and is working just like new again. 110.93537 is the model number...but it's before logical model numbers existed...S38981 is the serial number...
Also....I thought Moon River was an early 60's thing...so I'm guessing this Lp to be from '62...the year I was hatched...
I should have a transfer available from the Lp by the end of the weekend....there seems to be a coating of gas fumes & cooking soil on the surface of the record I need to wash off first...
B
a la carte
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Post# 30613-6/28/2003-08:42 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: PINK TIN FRIGIDAIRE ON EBAY
MESSAGE: Here's the link to the toy on ebay....it's PINK!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3136765079&category=19181
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Post# 30614-6/28/2003-09:31 ||| AndrewInOrlando (Winter Park, FL)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD- short cycle (short dishwasher washing times)
MESSAGE: Oh I absolutely agree with you. I could never imagine putting some of the stuff I put in my GE Profile DW today into any of those machines back then. Even though not the top of the GE line, this thing seems to be able to clean just about anything and leaves no residue on any of the dishes using WalMart's "Great Value" enzyme detergent (it's top rated by Consumer Reports!!!). I can't remember that ever being the case with any of my mom's old machines. You had to rinse, rinse, rinse before you washed. And even then, pots and pans were never clean when they came out.
Most manufacturers today design their machines to be idiot-proof (and let's face it....how many people out there really know how to load/use a dishwasher?) Their designs allow a significant margin of error so that if a user selects the wrong cycle for the load (GE is famous for this), there is still a 90% chance that the dishes will get clean anyway.
Also back then, dishes didn't "sit" in the machines overnight or for a couple of days, like they might today. They were run after meals because their capacity was limited, so you couldn't cram a whole days worth of dishes in there. And let's face it, back then they just did things differently then we do today. Today's machines are designed to be used by anyone, not just the "homemaker" (or household slave, whichever you prefer). So they have to be error-proof, durable, flexible, efficient, and smart. And that just didn't exist back then.
Oh, yes, I remember my aunt's Frigidaire with the spray tube technology, too. It was neat. But didn't clean well at all, and everything had to be pre-rinsed first. Today's new Dacor 30 inch dishwasher (about $2,200 at Home Depot Expo) has re-introduced the spray tube technology into their design, to work in conjunction with the traditional spray arm. Haven't read any reviews on it yet though.....I guess what's old is new again?
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Post# 30615-6/28/2003-11:29 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: PINK TIN FRIGIDAIRE ON EBAY
MESSAGE: That thing is really cute!!!
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Post# 30616-6/28/2003-14:34 ||| pulsator (826 Vesper ,Ann Arbor, Michigan 48103)
SUBJECT: Someone has GOT to save this machine!
MESSAGE: This has got to be one of the rarest Whirlpool's I have ever seen! I have never seen anything so amazing! Save this washer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2332032821&category=42233
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Post# 30617-6/28/2003-17:41 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: Parts
MESSAGE: This place looks like they have it together
LINK: http://www.repairclinic.com/0001.asp
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Post# 30618-6/28/2003-19:19 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: Westinghouse and Packard
MESSAGE: Everyone,
To keep things at bay I will talk about the Packard one more time and then I'm done.
The 1955 Patricain that my father owns was the very "first" automobile in the industry to use a completely seled modern style Air-Conditioning unit. Before 1955 Packard, like Cadillac and Lincoln... in the 1953-54 model year used a "G-M Frigidaire" unit mounted in the trunk.
The Air-Conditioning unit on the 55 used two large air outlets mounted in the corners of the dash that distributed air to the rest of the car. This instead of the plastic tubes that the rear mounted "frigidaire" unit used to put air thru several roof vents. But it kept a seperate "heater" ductwork that used a dual heat system. A small heat unit mounted under the front seat distributed warm air to the rear passengers. The other outlets for air on the dash were for heat only.
Our car, being it an early Febuary 1955 car was the 11th one made with "factory air". This was out of about 1,000 cars that year from Studebaker-Packard that had "air". It was originally destined for a consumer in Dallas Texas, however it ended up styaing here in Michigan and was sold thru "Martin Motors" in Charlotte Michigan to my grandfather Kenneth for $4,219.67. Which in 1955 was about his yearly salary. Because he worked for the Michigan State Police, his car was NEVER stopped and my grandfather had a HEAVY lead foot too. I can remember him taking it up to our family cottage in Clare in the 1980's and he would be doing about 90.
So that is all i have to say about that.
My Westinghouse is going to have to wait to be properly fixed...because I was just laid off, just was in a fender bender and other minor reasons. That thing better work well or I "will" have to start using my 1-18's. And you all know from the past that I am NOT cool with that. Or I will have to bring the 1966-67 Kenny's from my folks house. So it's just a samll spot of rust right at the bottom of the door. It should be ok.
Well hopefully I diddn't "agitate" anyone with the Pacakrd talk or whatnot. Just wanted to reply to those who asked. If anyone wants to talk about washers especially "Westinghouse" can go to "Yahoo Groups" and look up "Westinghouse" and go to WestinghouseAppliances which is a club that I created for Westinghouse stuff but would love it if EVERYONE used it and contributed to it. I won't mind if things wander off topic ...but will mind if anyone is viscious or lewd.
Anyway
Sigining Off
The Westinghosue is buzzing and need to fold clothes so I can go out tommorow to "Estate slaes' to see if I can drum anything up for cheap...probably not ...but you NEVER know?
Chad
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Post# 30619-6/28/2003-19:47 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse and Packard
MESSAGE: Chad, yes I know I'm going to appliance hell for this, but I think Packard offered AC starting in 39 and going sealed unit, front supply by the mid 40's (God, I'm old!)
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Post# 30620-6/28/2003-21:45 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse and Packard (A/C fact correction)
MESSAGE: This is the last off-topic thing I have to say, too
Packard offered A/C in 1940, but it was experimental and wasn't offered again until 1953.
So give those 1-18's a little action, too, so they won't get jealous :-)
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Post# 30621-6/28/2003-21:47 ||| Ironergirl (Tennessee)
SUBJECT: GE Automatic Ironer
MESSAGE: Hey, I just found this site today. This is so interesting. I thought I was just about alone is loving old machines.
Today I bought a General Electric Automatic Ironer at a garage sale. ...Really great looking, though very dirty and spider-filled. The metal case looks like an old mini-fridge or sumpthin'. I know nothing about it's history (late to mid-forties?) or it's operation. Can you tell me how to find an owner's manual or someone who can tell me a bit about how to use it? It has a flat heating surface as opposed to cylinder type. This is really a fun and funky appliance. I would appreciate any help.
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Post# 30622-6/28/2003-22:11 ||| kenwashesmonday (Haledon, NJ)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse and Packard (A/C fact correction)
MESSAGE: Nash was first with modern automobile air-conditioning (all up front) in 1954. It was developed by Nash Motors and it's Kelvinator division (almost back on-topic).
Ken D.
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Post# 30623-6/28/2003-22:14 ||| kenwashesmonday (Haledon, NJ)
SUBJECT: RE: Parts
MESSAGE: I've ordered from them a few times and got good service.
Ken D.
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Post# 30624-6/28/2003-22:37 ||| FilterFlo (Coventry Twp, Ohio)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse and Packard
MESSAGE: With all due respect, KenWashesMonday is quite correct about Nash KELVINATOR airconditioning. Nash was the FIRST integrated dash mounted airconditoning unit that worked in conjunction with the heater with no apparatus in the trunk.It was a mid year 1954 innovation. It was also the first unit to use a cycling compressor for temperature regulation. Up to that time, the compressor in cars ran constantly, when the engine was running unless the belt was removed from the compressor.
I own a 1955 Packard Patrician and it is more of a factory add on type of air conditioning the most of the other manufacturers offered. Also, in 1955 Ford offered a completely dash mounted unit, along with all American Motors Kelvinator products. Cadillac, Lincoln, Chrysler, ect were still trunk mounted units.
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Post# 30625-6/29/2003-00:37 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: AW6 (Paint Spots)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the information. Well, the paint splatters are around the silk-screening on the metal front indicator panel. I might be a bit concerned about removing the silk screening as well as the paint. Maybe I should just let it be, who knows.
MrCoffee
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Post# 30626-6/29/2003-01:05 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: 1962 FRIGIDAIRE IMPERIAL TOY WASHER item *3614856825 on EBAY!!!!! (Here's the link for it folks...)
MESSAGE: Have fun bidding!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3136765079&category=19181
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Post# 30627-6/29/2003-01:28 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: Who is the adult here? (fighting)
MESSAGE: Eh, so what about the "gay" aspect. I'm strait, and I still have an interest in appliances. To be honest, sexual preferences mean nothing in this hobby. I know of an appliance repairman who collects vintage washing machines, and he's just as gruff and strait as any construction worker or Navy sailor. Unimatic would NOT want to make a pass at this feller (LOL)!
What it boils down to, is an appreciation for how things work and how effectively they do their job. Add to that, the "fun factor" and viola, you got yourself a vintage appliance nut. My friends really do appreciate my keeping these appliances in top shape as well.
To be truthful, a female should really consider dating an appliance nut. Why? Well, because an appliance nut can sometimes be a lot of fun, and can really pack a sense of humor and be fun to have around. Also, because she would never have to worry about repairs when her washing machine breaks down! Oh, by the way. I also like to collect locomotive horns (I'm working on trying to get a Nathan Third Generation P5). If anybody has a set of train horns (especially an M3H from a Grand Trunk locomotive) let me know...
MrCoffee
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Post# 30628-6/29/2003-09:01 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: CALORIC Lp MUSIC FOR COOKING WITH GAS
MESSAGE: O.K. fellas. Here you go. This Lp was even dirtier & more worn than I had originally realized....but I was still able to make a reasonable sounding transfer so you can get an idea what it 'sounds' like to be cooking with gas....I have made the music files into Realplayer files, which are the smallest file size available for sharing music...but you may have to download the latest real player to hear them....not to worry...that's a free download and only takes a moment.
Good Luck, and let me know what you think....
PEAS.
B
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/GAS/INDEX.htm
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Post# 30629-6/29/2003-10:00 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: CALORIC Lp MUSIC FOR COOKING WITH GAS (Caloric LP)
MESSAGE: I think you sold yourself short, sounded damn good to me, way better than I expected from the way you described the condition of the album.
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Post# 30630-6/29/2003-11:32 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Who is the adult here? (from another str8 collector)
MESSAGE: You hit the nail on the head! I'm also a str8 collector and I do just fine talking with anyone in this club. This is FUN place to be, especially at the wash-ins/get togethers.
I've always been fascinated with mechanical. If it has wheels, makes noise and does something mechanically, I love it. In fact, I went to visit my friend in Mississippi. His dad let me mow the HUGE lawn on a 50's International Harvester big ol' farm tractor. I was in heaven riding that thing. Hearing it start and the smell of gas just blew me away.
On dating females. I dated one that knew right from the start I was an old appliance nut. When we went to Sears and Best Buy I dragged her through the washers and dryers. Demonstrated the Calypso for her. She was amused at my obsession and liked it. Too bad she got scared and DUMPED me when her parents decided to get a divorce :-( .
Anyway, things are peaceful now. Let's just be considerate of others and have fun. That's what this place is made for, having fun with old washing machines.
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Post# 30631-6/29/2003-11:36 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: CALORIC Lp MUSIC FOR COOKING WITH GAS
MESSAGE: That was PHAT, DOPE, DEF, KICKIN, RAD, BAD, COOL, GROOVY BABY!
Habanera, one of my favorite exerpts, done up in hi-fi lounge.
MORE MORE MORE!
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Post# 30632-6/29/2003-11:36 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: CALORIC Lp MUSIC FOR COOKING WITH GAS
MESSAGE: Bob, how cool is THAT!!!
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Post# 30633-6/29/2003-13:15 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Who is the adult here? (from another str8 collector)
MESSAGE: Very well put Jason, now I hope everyone will take your lead and stop dredging up 2 week or more old posts about a subject that just needs to be left alone. We're past it and let's stay past it.
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Post# 30634-6/29/2003-15:35 ||| mrb627 (Atlanta GA)
SUBJECT: Up for Adoption
MESSAGE: Isn't someone going to adopt this Whirlpool?
LINK: http://bibo.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2330991424&bibo=1
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Post# 30635-6/29/2003-18:37 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Up for Adoption (QUICK QUICK)
MESSAGE: 1 hr, 45 mins left. Kinda expensive but worth it. Classic 60s Whirlpool! If this was around New Orleans, it would be coming home to me.
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Post# 30636-6/29/2003-18:41 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: CALORIC Lp MUSIC FOR COOKING WITH GAS (CALORIC Lp )
MESSAGE: Hi Bob,
This is realy cool. I hope you have been doing well.
Peter
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Post# 30637-6/29/2003-19:19 ||| cehalstead (charleston, wv)
SUBJECT: RE: PINK TIN FRIGIDAIRE ON EBAY (pink toy frigidaire washer)
MESSAGE: I stood in the toy dept of a discount store and played with one of these, until my mother stopped me. Wish she had bought it for me!!!!
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Post# 30638-6/29/2003-19:51 ||| mrb627 (Atlanta GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Up for Adoption (Yikes)
MESSAGE:
I don't think the seller has had any activity on this machine. He may repost it. The price is kind of steep, but then again, it is a very rare find. Probably looking at close to 600 for shipping alone.
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Post# 30639-6/29/2003-19:52 ||| mrb627 (Atlanta GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Up for Adoption (Chome Cap)
MESSAGE: I wonder if this model has the black agitator with the chrome cap.
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Post# 30640-6/29/2003-19:54 ||| mrb627 (Atlanta GA)
SUBJECT: Plastic Paint?
MESSAGE:
Has anyone seen the commercials for the plastic paint? I think it is Krylon brand. Could make for some WILD agitator colors. Is anyone willing to give this a try?
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Post# 30641-6/29/2003-21:24 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: Up for Adoption (Yikes)
MESSAGE: I am pretty sure it has the black and chrome agitator. My mother had the same model too, she got it before I was three. Her machine had a black agitator with a chrome top, and it also had the lint filter just like the one on EBay.
I would purchase that machine, but I am not able to handle his price. Not only that, but he won't ship it either. Such is life I guess.
MrCoffee
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Post# 30642-6/29/2003-21:50 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: Plastic Paint? (Painting an agitator?)
MESSAGE: Well, here goes....
I used to work for an asphault sealing company. One day, I decided to wash my work cloths in my grandmother's GE Filter Flo washer. You see, the story began this way:
Charlie Martin, my boss, told me that washing my work cloths would not hurt or discolor my grandmother's agitator. Charlie's wife agreed. Well, Charlie was a good friend of my grandmother's so I went ahead and took his advice. I ran my work cloths through my grandmother's GE. Well, they came out and what did we find? A black agitator instead of a white one!
I asked my grandmother: "Did you go and buy a new agitator for this machine?"
Grandmother: "Well no... it must have come from your work."
Me: "Impossible! You know that Charle's wife washes his work cloths in their washer all the time, and she said it doesn't affect it."
Grandmother: "Well, if you say so."
Me: "Well, I liked your machine when it had a white agitator. Now it does look rather strange, don't you think? I think I'll just go on over and talk to Charlie"
Grandmother: "Don't be late for dinner..."
So, I headed over to Charlie Martin's place, and told his wife: "I thought that tar wouldn't affect the color of your agitator. What gives?"
Charlie's wife: " I don't know. Well, I'll let you look inside my washer so I can prove to you that your work cloths won't affect the color off the agitator."
So she showed me her washing machine. What did I find? It was an old Maytag washer with a black bakelite agitator! I said "oh, that explains it then. Thanks Mrs Martin. Can I have some of those peaches to bring home with me?" "Sure, said Charlie's wife. Help yourself...."
I head back home, and readied the peaches for one of my grandmother's famous recipies. I said "I solved the black agitator problem. Mrs. Martin's washing machine has a BLACK agitator!"
Grandmother: "Good Lord. It bet it was from his work."
Me: "Well, his agitator was like that when it was new...."
Grandmother: "(chuckling, then laughing out loud) Well I guess that explains it then. Ok, I guess she won that bet."
After that me and my grandmother had a good laugh, and the old GE kept perking along. My grandmother's agitator eventually turned white again after I was able to find myself more steady work, the Martins continued to be best of friends, and all was right with the world.
So if anybody really wants to paint an agitator black, go to work for an asphault sealing contractor!
MrCoffee
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Post# 30643-6/30/2003-11:50 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Tropical Storm Bill
MESSAGE: Bill has arrived and it's gettin nasty outside.
New Orleans is gonna get the rain as well as 40mph+ wind.
Todd, I hope your workshop is water tight and it doesn't flood.
My trailer is about 5ft above so it shouldn't flood here.
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Post# 30644-6/30/2003-14:15 ||| Kirstalie (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: 1931 Altorfer Brothers Company (ABC) O-Matic Advertisement?
MESSAGE: Hi Everyone:
I am looking for an old advertisement from 1931. It is for the ABC Spinning Washing Machine. The washer in the ad is a sage green color and in the lower right hand corner, it displays the Altorfer Bros. Company name and Peoria, IL. I bid on this ad on Ebay, but someone outbid me:o( Out of ALL of the ads to choose from, they wanted THAT one too! Anyway, I would love to purchase this ad if anyone happens to have it or knows where I can find it. I even called Altorfer Brothers, but they could not help. If any of you can help, please Email me at Kirstalie2@aol.com.
Thanks so much:o)
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Post# 30645-6/30/2003-20:29 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: Why Packard and Kelvinator are (sorta) Linked
MESSAGE: Everyone,
Yes some of you are right about what has been written. Packard DID have an Air-Conditioning/Heater unit in 1940-41 that was of it VERY OWN manufacture. It diddn't sell well retailing at about $700.00 to the price of a post depression era Packard...which you all should know was never a cheap car. Kinda like a Maytag at one point...above the rest and lasted longest.
Air-Conditioning returned to Packard in 1953 under the insistence of it's new director James J. Nance. Thus 1953 Packards fitted with the GM Frigidaire unit.
What some of you should know who have age and knowledge on their sides...is that Studebaker and Packard were supposed to merge with American Motors in 1954. American Motors being the combination of Nash-Kelvinator and Hudson Motor Car Co.
Tis' true that the 1954 nash had the VERY first front mounted "Air-Conditioning unit" called "Weather-Eye".And when Studebaker-Packard and American Motors were to hook up they began sharing procedures and techniques manufacturing techniques and etc.
One of the processes that Packard farmed out to American Motors was the Air-Conditioning aspect because "American Motors
had considerable knowledge in the units" according to Packard and they wanted a more "innovative and less bulky" unit than what was being made over at Frigidaire.
Obviously...they had Kelvinator that handled "mechanized refrigeration"so Packard felt that they would be in good hands with their needs. Plus they were supposed to hook up anyway.
Packard in the fall of 1954 bought the rights to use a "version" of Nash's "Weather-Eye" to use in it's 1955-56 Packard and Clipper lines. It was VERY costly despite it's innovative nature (front mounted instead of rear) and it DID hamper space in the front footwell compartment.
Thus Many early cars available with air did not come fitted. Ours is "rare" indeed but works well .
American Motors and Studebaker-Packard ended up NOT merging as intended as George Mason President of N-K died that fall and George Romney took over. George Mason had envisioned that all four of them be put together...(kinda like White Sewing Machines becoming the WCI Corporation combining of the Westinghouse, Kelvinator,Gibson,Hamilton and etc. And he almost succeeded in that.
He was able to convince James Nance to put together S-P and he put together N-K and Hudson. They were to merge on November 1, 1954.
Moral of the story was...after Mason died George Romney took over and bascially....Romney and Nance HATED each other and could never see eye to eye. Thus after about a year of painful setbacks and ignoramus ego's between the two their "mutual agreement" fell thru.
Packard died in 1956 and Studebaker was allowed to live by Federal bailout only. Many of you would know about the 1979-80 Chrysler saga.....this was the same just earlier.
So our Packard is located in the Studebaker National Museum in South Bend Indiana.
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Post# 30646-6/30/2003-20:35 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Tropical Storm Bill (came and went)
MESSAGE: The worst of it started around 1:00pm and now it's over. No damage to my house.
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Post# 30647-6/30/2003-22:37 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Tropical Storm Bill (came and went)
MESSAGE: Sir Frigemore survives!
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Post# 30648-7/1/2003-07:20 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Tropical Storm Bill (came and went)
MESSAGE: No damage or water here ... my machines are all safe and dry.
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Post# 30649-7/1/2003-10:02 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Tropical Storm Bill (came and went)
MESSAGE: We got 2 inches of rain last night and another 4-6 is supposed to dump on GA today... I put the water wings on the car this morning...
-ph
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Post# 30650-7/1/2003-10:11 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Why Packard and Kelvinator are (sorta) Linked
MESSAGE: PC, thanks for the info. It is always interesting to learn about the mergers or almost mergers of the companies the help shape our past.
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Post# 30651-7/1/2003-12:53 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Tropical Storm Bill (High and not-so-dry)
MESSAGE: TS Bill is Audi here. Sun is shining and the water's going down.
Hey Todd, how's that workshop? Wanna get together for a wash-in soon?
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Post# 30652-7/1/2003-18:16 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Tropical Storm Bill (High and not-so-dry)
MESSAGE: Jason, Bill spent the day here and left us with flash flood warnings, maybe a "dry-in" is called for!
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Post# 30653-7/1/2003-19:55 ||| Becbay (nev)
SUBJECT: westinghouse cook stove
MESSAGE: Can anyone help me find info on a westinghouse cook stove? I have a 1920 first electic range. How do I fine value and info on this item?
Thank you-
becbay
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Post# 30654-7/2/2003-00:19 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: Older dishwashers short wash cycles
MESSAGE: Besides as mentiond in an earlier post, has anybody also noticed that the detergent cups in the older dishwashers are much smaller than in today's machines? Also, has anyone noticed an improvement in performance of the older machines using today's detergents?
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Post# 30655-7/2/2003-12:59 ||| mrb627 (Atlanta GA)
SUBJECT: Solid Gold Maytags on Ebay
MESSAGE: This pair is a definate Classic.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2332767364&category=20714
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Post# 30656-7/2/2003-13:37 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Older dishwashers short wash cycles
MESSAGE: Hi Ken’78, as many Applianceviller’s know I have (or should I say had) a 1956 Frigidaire dishwasher installed in my kitchen until just a few weeks ago. The only reason I took out the ’56 Frigidaire was because we are moving on Saturday to our new house, so into storage it went along with my other 36 washers and dryers and my vintage range.
I replaced my 225lb Frigidaire with a 2003, 75lb, $179.99 BOL Frigidaire plastic DW as I needed to leave something with the house. I sure do miss my all-porcelain ’56, it is of the horizontal spray tube design and it works wonderfully. I have seen posts here where other members remember from their childhood Frigidaire spray tube design dishwashers that did not clean very well. I can’t figure that out because mine cleans wonderfully, certainly better than the new 2003 Frigidaire DW. It very well might be a difference between the dishwasher detergents of the 1950’s and the new 21st century DW detergents. The only drawback of my ’56 is its capacity is probably half that of a modern dishwasher, but for the two of us it’s just right. The little detergent cup holds about 1/3 cup of detergent and usually fill it up till it overflows. I do scrape the dishes into the sink before I load it and the only time I have pre-rinse is when the pot or dish has old or baked-on cereal or the like. My brand new 2003 Frigidaire leaves residue in the bottom of all the glasses on the top rack, something I never had experienced with the ’56. I can’t wait till we move into our new house and get my ’56 back!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/unimatic1140/vwp?.dir=/Frigidaire&.src=ph&.dnm=Frig+DW+PINK+RACKS!.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/unimatic1140/lst%3f%26.dir=/Frigidaire%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 30657-7/2/2003-14:20 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Older dishwashers short wash cycles
MESSAGE: Uni, thanks for posting the pix of the dw. I'm interested in how the lower spray unit worked. In the unit that I got to see, it seemed to be set up to "wobble" and spray (the unit was trashed so anything could have been wrong). Did it actually spin?
I've also been thinking about the early detergent cups. As I recall, our 57 HP had two cups, one of which stayed covered until water filled a two compartment hinged cover. When the side w/o a hole filled it would rotate and the soap would be used in the second wash(?). My point being, I recall the cups to be pretty good sized, not much different than modern washers.
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Post# 30658-7/2/2003-14:24 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: You wont believe this but...
MESSAGE: Hey guys/gals, you all wont believe this but in our new house the 100amp circuit breaker box only has 16 slots and all 16 are full. Unfortunately there is no 220-volt outlet at the currently dryer location as there was a gas dryer there before (thankfully, the previous owners took their 90’s w/d set with them). I’m having an electrician upgrade the service to 200amp and install a new 30 slot Square-D breaker box, but it’s going to be a month or so before that work is completed. On top of that, my ’51 Bendix gas dryer is starting to make a strange sound so I don’t want to use it until I can give it a good overhaul. So that leaves only one choice, get a new gas dryer to use until I can get the basement more in vintage order. This is good timing anyway because my Asko dryer has recently stopped tumbling and I want a modern machine for Neal or for when I don't have time to baby-sit the wash. So I went out and bought a new brand new top-of-the-line gas dryer yesterday, and while I was at it I bought the matching washer because I just couldn’t help myself. So tomorrow they will be delivered and I think you some of guys will be interested in this new set, I will give everyone a full report in the Sandbox.
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Post# 30659-7/2/2003-14:33 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Older dishwashers short wash cycles
MESSAGE: There is no lower spray unit, just the pop-up water filter assembly. All water spray comes from the center tube which rotates at 650rpm. Pots and pans loaded in the bottom rack are turned on their side for proper washing. The detergent cup in this machine is definitely smaller than in modern machines.
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Post# 30660-7/2/2003-15:12 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: "What a great weekend"
MESSAGE: Hi to all, I have just returned from a fun filled weekend with Greg (Gansky). His fantastic collection of vintage washers and dryers gave me the "fix" that I had been needing. Greg was a wonderful host. Just wish that I had a digital camera so I could post some pictures of the fun. Terry
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Post# 30661-7/2/2003-16:09 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but...
MESSAGE: Actually I think you are joking us! I will sleeping under my mailbox to hear more about that set!! And you'd better make some pictures too before I believe this LOL!!
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Post# 30662-7/2/2003-16:10 ||| christfr (st louis mo)
SUBJECT: RE: "What a great weekend" (gregs the best)
MESSAGE: have to agree with you there greg is just the best always there to help i cant tell you how many times he has given me advice or helped me with problems what a great guy many thanks chris
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Post# 30663-7/2/2003-16:17 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: European Classic: Ruton 1000 or Philips CC1000
MESSAGE: A while ago I was riding on my bike through town when suddenly my eye fell on a washer that was going to be trashed. I recognized it immediately even though I first saw it from the back. I hurried home, got my camera, went back and shot some pictures. It's a Ruton 1000 which is actually the same as a Philips CC1000, a real classic because it was the first toploader with a spinspeed of 1000 rpm. It's from the early seventies. I left where it was, there are no longer parts available for this machine and besides that, you will see in the pictures that the state it was in was pretty bad. Otherwise it would be a dream.... For now, I'm totally happy with the pictures.
Louis
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/lst?.dir=/Ruton+1000&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/lst%3f%26.dir=/%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 30664-7/2/2003-16:25 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: Bosch washer with keyplates (manual)
MESSAGE: Recently I got scans of a manual from a German collector of washer brochures. This manual is from a Bosch washer that used keyplates like the Hoover Keymatic. Two discs, 15 cycles. This washer is almost the same as the Bosch my mother had, only my mother didn't have one with keyplates but with 3 rotary controls. The manual is in German, but has a few pictures including one of the control panel.
Louis
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/lst?.dir=/Bosch+washer+with+keyplates&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/lst%3f%26.dir=/%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 30665-7/2/2003-17:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but...
MESSAGE:
Shame, shame, shame on you for teasing us....there's no message in the Sandbox, will we have to WAIT until tomorrow???
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Post# 30666-7/2/2003-17:30 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but...
MESSAGE: oh my gosh....I better check and see if hell has frozen over, or if pigs are flying. LOL! Can't wait for the details, Robert. Happy new house!!!
Rich
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Post# 30667-7/2/2003-17:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: "What a great weekend"
MESSAGE: Thanks for the kind words Terry, it was certainly a pleasure having you and we certainly enjoyed spending time with you too. Don and Michael enjoyed meeting you and John (our Friday night party host) said you were welcome at his house anytime you are in town! Glad you had fun - come again soon! Greg
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Post# 30668-7/2/2003-17:34 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but...
MESSAGE: Hey Greg...haha...I ran to the sandbox too...and was disappointed that there was no message. I'm dying to know....what modern washer and dryer would Robert actually buy?????
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Post# 30669-7/2/2003-17:42 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: European Classic: Ruton 1000 or Philips CC1000
MESSAGE: Interesting pics - what were typical spin speeds before this? When did the Euro machines begin using the faster spin speeds? It's funny that fast spins and water usage were recognized so much earlier in the Euro markets before the US, you would think that with the energy crunch in the 70's there would have been swift changes made to household usage habits and appliances, but we are only just starting to see the awakening here.
I loved the pics (sandbox) of your guestroom - is that bedding waiting to be washed? ;-)
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Post# 30670-7/2/2003-18:40 ||| jimbo (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: Today POD
MESSAGE: I noticed that the dryer has an ultra-violet light to sanitize your laundry. I've seen it on other products. What did this actually do and did it really work.
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Post# 30671-7/2/2003-19:54 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Today POD (Sun-E-Day)
MESSAGE: I think this was a gimmick but maybe someone more knowledgable might have a different answer.
hmmm..
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Post# 30672-7/2/2003-20:55 ||| AndrewInOrlando (Winter Park, FL)
SUBJECT: RE: Older dishwashers short wash cycles
MESSAGE: Hey Uni, thanks for the info about your very beautiful and classic Frigidaire. Being born and raised in NYC, one problem which we had years ago was extremely hard water, which had a definite affect on wash performance. The film the water would leave behind was unbelievable; it was actually corrosive and resposible for trashing more than just household plumbing. This is most likely the reason early dishwashers didn't clean all that well in such situations. In the late 70's/early 80's, NYC's water supply was much softer (only 3 grains hardness) compared to the 50's and 60's. Many people used mechanical softeners (for those that could afford them). So the longer wash cycles of newer machines were more effective than the shorter wash cycles of the older machines. I wish I could find a Frigidaire like yours though, since here in Florida where I live, I have soft water.
Hey, have you seen the new Dacor 30 inch dishwashers? They use spray tube technology to clean the extra space in both racks..just like the Frigidaire.
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Post# 30673-7/2/2003-22:41 ||| FilterFlo (Coventry Twp, Ohio)
SUBJECT: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: Hi, This was a special week for me. My appliance guardian angel was really looking out for me. My appliance dealer friends that I used to work for called me and told me they had something special that just came in. When I got there, lo and behold: a 1962 Frigidaire WCI62 Multimatic! I just flipped! And in wonderful condition! Then in back of the shop, they had stashed a 1969(?) Kenmore 800 w/suds saver! Again, it was in almost perfect conditon. I plugged them both in, and both had lighted controls and they still worked. WOW! Loaded them in my van and was in seventh heaven the long ride home (about an hour).
The next day, I was able to locate a local dealer that used to have the Frigidaire franchise. I was hoping he might have some of his old parts in stock. He is near my house, aboutr 2 miles away. When I pulled up to his shop, there was a mid 60's TOL Speed Queen washer in the junk pile. Well, I just had to save that. It was the deluxe model, with lighted controls, timed dispenser, and suds saver. The owner was not there but I was able to buy it from his son. He was very nice, and told me he would save all the old stuff for me to look over and call me if there was anything special.
Got them home, and Yes, I got them all working. It took a while, but not one had anything seriousily wrong. I did a load in the SpeedQueen then the Frigidaire, and then the Kenmore. Boy, it just does not get much better then this! Here are some pics: and Oh yes, I dont think I can keep them all, Im just about out of room. The Kenmore will definately be up for sale.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/filterflo
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Post# 30674-7/2/2003-23:18 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: Hey Jimmie
Wow!!! Your appliance karma is unbelievable. I bet you are having fun playing with those. Thanks for sharing the pics....just awesome!!!
woo hoo!!!
Rich
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Post# 30675-7/2/2003-23:22 ||| FilterFlo (Coventry Twp, Ohio)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: Hey Rich,
thanks for the kind words. If I keep having this kind of luck, I will find my Philco Custom Imperial set, and then I will have to get rid of the Unimatic set and send them out to you in Calif! Ha Just kidding! (Maybe!)
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Post# 30676-7/2/2003-23:32 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (Magic 8 Ball)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg, hmmmm, let me ask my Magic 8 Ball,
"Magic 8 Ball will Applianceville have to wait until tomorrow to find out what I bought"
Magic 8 Ball Responds: "Yes, Definitely".
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Post# 30677-7/2/2003-23:34 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Older dishwashers short wash cycles
MESSAGE: Hi Andrew, I had no idea NYC used to have such hard water, I guess the NYC must soften the water like they do here in Minneapolis. The vintage machines we see here in the city are much better off from all that soft water than the ones we find in the suburbs where they do not soften the water.
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Post# 30678-7/2/2003-23:36 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: Hi Jimmy, wow that some week you had. I find it usually is feast or famine like that sometimes too. Congrats on all your finds, thanks for the pictures. All the machines look like they are in great shape!
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Post# 30679-7/2/2003-23:37 ||| alr2903 (new orleans)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (very LUCKY week. (Filter-Flo)
MESSAGE: Filter Flo, what a week, you did have. Your pictures are great. I really enjoyed them. The SQ looks like it still has the metal agitator like the coin ops instead of the gray plastic one is it aluminum? I also noticed the "coated wire spin guard as opposed to the later Plastic perforated ring. Man keep that SQ what a find. great shots and thanks for sharing. I looked at your other album too. LOL. I was about to sign off then I got caught up in your pictures, Well Thanks again. Have a good week. Im late for bed now LOL.
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Post# 30680-7/2/2003-23:49 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: European Classic: Ruton 1000 or Philips CC1000
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, in spite of its current tired state, we expect this was once a most Royal possession for its owner.
QEOM
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Post# 30681-7/2/2003-23:53 ||| FilterFlo (Coventry Twp, Ohio)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (very LUCKY week. (Filter-Flo)
MESSAGE: Yes alr, the SpeedQueen has the aluminum agitator. The agitator cap also has the little nubby, so that the filter pan can lock into it. Now I just need to find a filter pan! I am going to try very hard to keep the SpeedQueen, its such a neat machine, but not sure yet. I have about 40 other washer/dryers and sets, Im really OUT of room........But if I could find the matching dryer, well it would be a must to save! I love those sets.....
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Post# 30682-7/2/2003-23:57 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (Magic 8 Ball)
MESSAGE: Who wants to go over to the Sandbox and "wager" as to what set Robert may have bought? I'll go first. ;-)
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Post# 30683-7/3/2003-00:15 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: What wonderful new finds! Our first washer was a very similar WCI-61. It washed the diapers for 3 of 4 of us. My mom used it for 4 years, then my Grandma for another 25! The washer was still working when she passed.
I love the Sears machines with the "waterfall" style detergent dispensers. Speed Queens are always fun!
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Post# 30684-7/3/2003-03:12 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: European Classic: Ruton 1000 or Philips CC1000
MESSAGE: Greg,
Typical spinspeeds for that time would be 700 - 800rpm for the more expensive machines. Cheaper machines spun sometimes with even less than 400 (360 or 380), so this was quite revlutionary. In the early seventies some brands had a TOL model with 1000rpm, but all of them were frontloaders. Water saving was not an issue yet, most washers were still water hogs. Saving water started in the eighties.
The bed is made and ready to recieve guests. There is a down duvet in a cover on the bed. At least as long as it's there ;-)
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Post# 30685-7/3/2003-03:23 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: Three wonderful machines, congratulations!
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Post# 30686-7/3/2003-03:27 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: European Classic: Ruton 1000 or Philips CC1000
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, this was indeed a Royal possession. It was a very expensive machine, alas they didn't last very long exept for this amazing machine that held out 30 years.
QLOTOC
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Post# 30687-7/3/2003-05:54 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (YES!!!!)
MESSAGE: You have my dream machine!
Totally awesome!!!!!!
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Post# 30688-7/3/2003-05:56 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (very LUCKY week. (Filter-Flo)
MESSAGE: Well, could you expand to include a real retro laundry studio? Think of the fun you could have with that. Those machines were amazing finds especially all in the same week. And all in reasonably fine cosmetic shape. Who knows - maybe the next treat will be the Philco Custom Imperial Pair???
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Post# 30689-7/3/2003-06:37 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (that's a 72)
MESSAGE: The Kenmore 800 is a 72 model with the notched handle. My mom's had a metal handle.
Am I complaining? Nope. What a great find!
I want one but can't afford the shipping :-(
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Post# 30690-7/3/2003-07:43 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (Get the 40 circuit panel...)
MESSAGE: Robert,
Don't even bother with a 30 circuit panel- you will fill it up before you realize it, esp. in an older house if (when!!) you rewire. A 40 circuit panel is less than $50 more; the heavier wire needed adds a bit more cost. Still, for $100 or so, you will have plenty of power for extra washers, dryers, a subfeed to a detached garage, etc. It is much better and cheaper to do it now than have to add another subpanel later.
I am a licensed electrician who does mostly new construction- we don't install anything less than 200amps in new houses. Sometimes, in some of the larger houses, we install 400amps! By having enough circuits in a house, one can really eliminate overloaded circuits.
I know that this is off-topic; I just hate to see folks put in less elec. service than they will need! I'm certain your appliance collection will grow- be prepared with a big enough ciruit panel!
I really enjoy this site- thanks for all the time and sweat you pour into it!
Duane
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Post# 30691-7/3/2003-08:25 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (Get the 40 circuit panel...)
MESSAGE: Hi Duane
400 amps!!! that's amazing. Thats 44 kw, isn't it?
My whole house runs from a 1.5 kw inverter.
When I first got my vintage Frigidaire washer and was using it for about the second or third time I was starting to spin a load when it stopped dead. My heart stopped, has it blown up? Panic - Have I just killed the inverter with this silly old washing machine?
I checked the light in the laundry - nothing. Uh-oh. Checked the inverter, the red light was flashing. (overload) I reset it and crossed my fingers. Just then my partner walked in and said " I think something is wrong with the vacuum cleaner, it just stopped working."
Hmmm ... big old washing machine at the start of spin + old Electrolux vacuum cleaner = way over 1500 watts.
I gave him a lecture on not using a big draw appliance when the washing machine is on... no further problems... so far...
Chris.
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Post# 30692-7/3/2003-08:44 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: All in one day! I can just see you driving home grinning from ear to ear ;-)
These are all beautiful finds Jimmy - what a day. Now today will be all the matching dryers??
That Speed Queen is really in remarkable condition, did you replace the rubber clothes ring around the top opening? It looks perfect and they are hard to find. Congrats and enjoy your weekend full of vintage washing fun!
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Post# 30693-7/3/2003-09:02 ||| FilterFlo (Coventry Twp, Ohio)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: Hi Greg, Thanks for the kind words. No didnt have to put any parts in any of the machines yet to make them work. The Speed Queen is just as original as you see in the pics. I just love it! It has to be one of the quietest machines I have ever used. Other than the clunks of the solinoids, its almost silent. Not sure if its a keeper yet, but Im trying to find a spot for it. Im just getting ready to wash the new kitty cat's blankets in it. I wish I had the lint filter to catch all the cat fur.
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Post# 30694-7/3/2003-09:07 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (I Must Say Very Lucky!)
MESSAGE: Jimmy,
What wonderful machines!
I just love all of them, but the Speed Queen is my favorite!
I can't help but wonder why would anyone get rid of such great machines. Speed Queen in the Junk Pile! That is so wild! I am so happy that you saved it! It was meant to be!
Hope you have a great holiday weekend!
Thanks for the pictures.
Brent
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Post# 30695-7/3/2003-09:16 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: You dog! Good thing you didn't find a '61 WCI! If you find the '61, I know where you can swap your '62 WCI for a clam shell '61 DCIF... Congrats!
-ph
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Post# 30696-7/3/2003-09:17 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: Oh yes, the filter - well, it's very dramatic and fun to watch, but with the aerated overflow wash and rinse action, not much lint actually stays in the filter...I guess it's self cleaning!!
Let me look around in my parts-treasures and see what I have...
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Post# 30697-7/3/2003-09:21 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: Peter, you have a Speed Queen too - is that all done now? Why haven't you posted pics?
OK, ready for the slap...
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Post# 30698-7/3/2003-09:26 ||| SarahW (Richmond VA)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: WOW!!! It's finds like that (and the fabulous pictures, of course) that keep me glued to this board.
That's some haul, you really must have an appliance angel :)
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Post# 30699-7/3/2003-09:31 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: GRRRRRR...
I hope to work a bit on the Unimatic tomorrow. After all, that it's in the dining room and the SQ is in offsite storage...
-ph
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Post# 30700-7/3/2003-10:36 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: You forgot the mechanism support screws we bought...
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Post# 30701-7/3/2003-10:44 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (YES!!!!)
MESSAGE: Jason, is that the exact same one, or did your mom's have the water level and temp dials with the plastic that matched the timer dial? Either way, this might be a good machine to consider if Jimmy decides to sell it!
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Post# 30702-7/3/2003-10:49 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: Sarah, just out of curiosity, are you "Sarah of 1000 Hetties" from the appliance forum? ;-) Maybe one of these vintage machines would be just the ticket/cure to your woes!
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Post# 30703-7/3/2003-11:19 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (YES!!!!)
MESSAGE: It's not the EXACT machine. My mom's had the plastic buttons to match the timer and the metal handle on the door. The faceplate was a gold'ish color.
Very close.
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Post# 30704-7/3/2003-11:37 ||| dalangdon (Seattle, WA)
SUBJECT: Westinghouse L-5 Gasket
MESSAGE: Howdy everybody,
the gasket around the door of my Westinghouse L-5 is rotting away. Is there anyway to get a replacement?
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Post# 30705-7/3/2003-12:13 ||| FilterFlo (Coventry Twp, Ohio)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: Hey Peter, Its a deal! You know how I love to make sets match up. But calling me a dog? From a cat lover to another cat lover? hahah More like a rat!
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Post# 30706-7/3/2003-14:00 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: Don't forget the gold crown on the shelves in your study with the little plastic appliances too...
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Post# 30707-7/3/2003-14:01 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: Hi Sarah,
it's good to see you here in the land of classic appliances!
Well I hope you will get bitten by the bug and start a mini collection and give us the pro and cons about your find!
I know that you wished you had your Speed Queen back, but hey...., you never know when you will run into again up in here!
I wish you the best of luck with the LG's Tromm pair (If I'm correct).
Take care!
Larry
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Post# 30708-7/3/2003-14:02 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: "Mouse, never mouse... RAT!!!"
I hope the Philco Imperial is right around the corner for you. I'd also like to find the Duomatic in that style.
-ph
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Post# 30709-7/3/2003-14:53 ||| appliguy (Vienna Va.)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (YES!!!! My Mom had this exact model 800)
MESSAGE: My mom had this exact model Kenmore 800. It is the very first washer I ever remember. I was told that when I was little I wouldn't let anyone cut my hair unless they did it on top of that washer. We replaced it in 1983 with a Whirlpool Supreme that we still have in the family (it is up at our summer home at the lake). How I would love to wn this washer if only I had the money and the space. I know Jimmy will find it a good home though.....maybe with Jason form New Orleans?..........
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Post# 30710-7/3/2003-17:13 ||| Mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Older dishwashers short wash cycles (Vintage Dishwashers & shorter wash cycles)
MESSAGE: I have 3 top load dishwashers , GE Power shower, Westinghouse 6 cycle & my favorite, a 58 Kenmore , pink interior,impeller wash, round top rack. Of all my machines the Kenmore out performes by far. I am looking for a good home for them in hopes that some day I can find a GE built in, impeller wash with pink interior & a top sprayer. Or Westinghouse , impeller wash built in. The cycles in the old machines are shorter I agree . You can not load as much in as a new machine BUT when properly loaded they do a fantastic job, pots & pans included. The detergents today are far superior & if the water is hot enough & properly loaded you will be hard pressed to find someone that finds these machines inferior. It is very nice to see people in the club who have other interests (dishwashers)besides just old washing machines (all in fun guys) Have a great day Michael
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Post# 30711-7/3/2003-18:41 ||| Manor_Avenue (Fresno, CA)
SUBJECT: Question for Robert (Unimatic 1140)
MESSAGE: Would you have any leads on finding the 1957 G.E. Filter-Flo washer mate to the dryer of yours that's pictured in the General Electric wing of the Classic Appliances web site? I'm in Fresno, CA, and I'd be willing to have the machine shipped. Also, any idea where to snag an early 1950's Westinghouse slanted-front Laundromat? How about a duplicate of your 1961 Whirlpool pictured in the museum? All of the appliances you have pictured are terrific. Thank you!
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Post# 30712-7/3/2003-19:10 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse L-5 Gasket
MESSAGE: Hi Dan- The door boot for your L5 Laundromat is a much sought after part among the Westy fans who have restored these great mahcines. Being rubber, they tended to degrade over time sitting on shelves in parts shops that might have kept them but it's possible one might be found in good shape. Unable to locate an original replacement for my L5, I used a currently stocked part for the straight front Westinghouse/WCI/Electrolux washers. It works just fine, but it does pucker a little around the opening. The original part number is Q4688 if you want to do some checking around. I have some pictures posted in Yahoo of what I did to replace the boot on my L5. Unfortunately, the newer style boot is a bit of a bear to get onto the lip of the tub, so I had to tear the whole machine down and separate the two halves of the outer tub. It's not as bad as it seems...famous last words!
Greg
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/thesheerlook/lst?.dir=/Westinghouse+Laundromat+L5+Restoration&.view=t
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Post# 30713-7/3/2003-19:11 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: I'll trade you for a Speed Queen Repair Master.....;-)
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Post# 30714-7/3/2003-22:12 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (WOW!)
MESSAGE: Congrats on these wonderful finds! It's hard to believe that they're in such good shape ... especially the Frigidaire and the Speed Queen. Someone took good care of them both and I'm glad that you were able to save them.
Mike
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Post# 30715-7/3/2003-23:23 ||| alr2903 (new orleans)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (Sq Filter)
MESSAGE: Now I could be way wrong, but I was thinking the nub on the SQ agitator cap held a fabric softner wheel. My grandmother had a similar machine in the 70's. I always thought the solid tubbed SQ's relied on that overflow for lint removal. Now i could be wrong thats been a LLLLLLong time ago. Happy Independence day EVERYONE.
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Post# 30716-7/4/2003-01:40 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: Re: Purex "HE" Tablet's:
MESSAGE: Hey! Club member's, I wanted to know if someone would be interested in 2-Full Boxes and a partial Box of Purex "HE" Tablet's? I've tried them and it seems to be breaking me out into a Rash, so I'm not going to use the rest of them. Please send me an E-Mail on my "AOL" Account, along with your Address and I will be glad to send them next week, to whomever is interested in them.
I don't want anything for them and not even reimbursement for the Postage, I just want to give them to someone who can use them and appreciate my generousity of this offer.
I also want to wish everyone a Safe, Fun, Wonderful time and celebration for a "Happy 4th of July" and I hope everyone will have a wonderful weekend too.
Best Regards, Steve SactoTeddyBear@aol.com
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Post# 30717-7/4/2003-05:44 ||| FilterFlo (Coventry Twp, Ohio)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (Sq Filter)
MESSAGE: Hi alr, Ive been looking thru my service literature for the SpeedQueen, and its seems there could be both a lint filter OR a rinse additive despenser, but not both. My good friend Don Shier gave me a lint filter for a SpeedQueen wringer washer but it does not fit in the automatic. And you are right, with the overflo wash and rinse, the filter is probably of dubious value....
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Post# 30718-7/4/2003-07:59 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Question for Robert (Unimatic 1140)
MESSAGE: Hi Manor,
No I have never seen the 1957 GE Filter-Flo washer, I would love to find that match to my '57 dryer. For more information on how to go about finding this stuff see post #5694 in the archives.
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Post# 30719-7/4/2003-08:43 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (Sq Filter)
MESSAGE: I think that a filter or a FS dispenser can be used. The 1964 SQ I played with at the convention had a fabric softener. The SQ was fun but quite rough on clothes IMHO. Gets the clothes clean but with brute force, just like direct drive Kenmores.
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Post# 30720-7/4/2003-08:45 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (ALR )
MESSAGE: I wonder when Todd's gonna let us see his new workshop and play with his machines? I can't wait to watch that Skinny Minni in action. I've never seen one before. I want to videotape it as well as the 1-18 which I accidentally recorded over.
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Post# 30721-7/4/2003-09:15 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (OKAY, its time)
MESSAGE: Jason, I'm sorry that its taken so long. Although the workshop is finished, I still don't have plumbing to it yet. But, we can get around that. How about next Saturday, say from noon to three or four? We also have a little project to work on (the 1966 Frigidaire is feeling under the weather). ALR, you are most welcomed, too ... I am in Metairie. Hey Bob, you can attend via telephone, too. Todd
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Post# 30722-7/4/2003-09:27 ||| sarahw (Richmond VA)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (the vintage cure)
MESSAGE: Hi Scott! How unfair, I'm sure I was only in the low hundred's. :^D
I forgot which of my profiles has the talking Hettie - I guess it's the sandbox one.
Perhaps the laundry gnomes in my older home resent the newer machines.... and would be pleased to welcome a vintage one.
Despite stalking all the old-geezer Richmond tag sales, I haven't stumbled on anything wonderful yet...hence my amazement at the triple play discussed here!
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Post# 30723-7/4/2003-10:13 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Bosch washer with keyplates (manual) (Not A Hoover!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Louis
Gosh, Keplates and not a Hoover, unthinkable...what year was this produced was it later than 1961??
What spin speed was this machine?? Looks a typically solid Bosch washer ...
Happy washing, Mike
p.s.Have you got the Full Hoover Keymatic brochure scanned at all??
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Post# 30724-7/4/2003-10:22 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: Hi Jimmy
A very special week indeed I`ll say...what a stunning trio especially with all the lights...
Makes it all the more exciting when they turn up out of the blue like that....
If you really cant keep em I might just contact crates & freighters just to check how much to ship...LOL
Happy Hunting
Mike
p.s.Would look lovely next to my Hotpoint Filter-Flow!!!
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Post# 30725-7/4/2003-12:29 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (YAY)
MESSAGE: Cool. Next Saturday it is! I can't wait.
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Post# 30726-7/4/2003-14:01 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Bosch washer with keyplates (manual) (Not A Hoover!!)
MESSAGE: Hey Mike,
From the Sandbox to the main site and probably back again, it's a busy time in appliance land!
I don't know when the production of the Bosch began, but I have a copy of a test in a German magazine that dates from January 1965. The spinspeed was 700rpm, my mother's Bosch from 1966 did 760rpm, so I guess they updated that line. It was a VERY heavy machine, the door alone was 3 - 4 times heavier than that of a modern Miele. Price was the same as the Miele from that time. My mother choose the Bosch for it's capacity, Miele was 4kg, Bosch 5.5kg.
I have a few scans of the Hoover Keymatic and the manual.
Louis
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Post# 30727-7/4/2003-14:08 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (Sq Filter)
MESSAGE: There were numerous incarnations to filter lint out of the wash and rinse water over the years. Speed Queen used a "Slosh-over" method in the wringer washers and early automatics and then later moved to a "scoop and sling" type which is one of my favorites. Variations of these type did include a fabric softener dispenser on top of the filter unit - it's very cool! I also have a fabric softener dispenser 'wheel' as was mentioned. I posted pictures of all these in my album.
One of our neighbors had a 1964 Speed Queen washer with the scoop and sling filter that I was absolutely entranced by many a Saturday morning - what a wonderful sound it makes and watching the water sloshing around was a slice of heaven for a washer-boy at the tender age of 11...
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Misc.+Fun&.src=ph&.dnm=Early+Slosh+Over+Filter.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Misc.%2bFun%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 30728-7/4/2003-14:19 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Greetings (Birthday)
MESSAGE: Thank you to EVERYONE here who wished me a happy birthday. Well, now I"m on the down-side to 50, next year. I did have a very nice day. Co-workers took me out to a very nice Italian Rest. for lunch and Max & Kirk took me out to dinner, along with some other friends. Kirk baked me a cake in their near vintage 1977 30" whirlpool continuous clean wall oven. It was a cake baked in a bear pan and he decorated it like a teddy bear. Went to their house afterwards to survey the repair work done on their house after a 25 year old tree fell on their house 6 weeks ago. Wanted to go swimming, but the other guys wanted to watch QAF instead, so I didn't get to celebrate my "suit" per se. I'm truely thankful for my friends and family here as well as Max & Kirk. Have also been extremely bizzy with work, long days, and some other persuits. All in all, the last two years have been the best birthdays I've had in a long time.
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Post# 30729-7/4/2003-14:37 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week
MESSAGE: Beautiful finds for sure!!! Incredible. Jimmy, I've not read any of the replying posts from this one, but had to add my 2 cents worth anyway, whether it's been covered or not, sorry guys. Anyway, the Kenmore 800 is more like a 1971 or 1972 model, the LAST of it's ilk. It's newer than Jason's or my Kenmore 800 from childhood becuase of the flat lid with the cut-out "handle" and no chrome handle on top of the lid. Plus the water level & temp dials have the graphics on the control panel rather than small plastic display knobs like the timer is. A fraternity brother of mine had this washer in their house when I visited them in 1977 in the Dallas area, he and his wife had been married since 1971 and they bought this washer in late 1971 or 1972 when they bought their first house. I know Jason or I would love this washer, but for me, it still isn't a GM Frigididaire and that's what I'm holding out for.
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Post# 30730-7/4/2003-14:42 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Purex "HE" Tablet's:
MESSAGE: Steve, thanks for the info. I'm sorry about the rash. I had similar brek out of itching and a bit of a rash when I used the purex liquid. Now I know I won't be using the tabs at all.
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Post# 30731-7/4/2003-14:51 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (the vintage cure (Sarah))
MESSAGE: Sarah, I'm glad you're here. I'm Boba1 from the appliance and laundry forum on THS. I thought of you this week when the new CR issue rated the HE3t as the best performing front loader. Wish you could find a vintage Speed Queen for your washing purposes.
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Post# 30732-7/4/2003-15:27 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (Speed Queen Lint Filter pictures)
MESSAGE: Great pictures Greg, I never knew there were so many ways to capture lint!
-Alex
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Post# 30733-7/4/2003-15:48 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: Whirlpool/Inglis washer on ebay gone to the crusher?
MESSAGE: It's been on ebay a few days and no bids. :(
Is this a canadian machine? Anyway, off to the crusher I guess since I don't have the room.
-Alex
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2332032821&category=42233&rd=1
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Post# 30734-7/4/2003-16:07 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Purex "HE" Tablet's:
MESSAGE: Steve,
I'd be interested in them provided they are still available?
I will email you my address. The tabs are not carried at my local K-mart, so this would be my first exposure to them.
Thanks!
-Alex
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Post# 30735-7/4/2003-19:27 ||| windycitybear (Chicago)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Purex "HE" Tablet's: (Rash???)
MESSAGE: Do tell where the rash is...... :-)
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Post# 30736-7/5/2003-01:27 ||| frontaloadotmy (grass valley ca)
SUBJECT: toooldappliancenut
MESSAGE: send frontaloadotmy some info about your Turquoise '59 GE dw
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Post# 30737-7/5/2003-01:37 ||| frontaloadotmy (grass valley ca)
SUBJECT: RE: Sixties Whirlpool Washer (turquoise '59 G E dw pix)
MESSAGE: OAN is your profile aol email still good? please replyto
frontaloadotmy
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Post# 30738-7/5/2003-01:43 ||| frontaloadotmy (grass valley ca)
SUBJECT: RE: GE pullout dishwasher new member in home
MESSAGE: share details with frontaloadotmy
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Post# 30739-7/5/2003-01:44 ||| frontaloadotmy (grass valley ca)
SUBJECT: oldappliancenut
MESSAGE: talk to me
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Post# 30740-7/5/2003-02:09 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Purex "HE" Tablet's: (Purex "
HE"
Tablet's Rash!!)
MESSAGE: Well, well, wouldn't you like to know where my Rash is?
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Post# 30741-7/5/2003-07:17 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: Sixties Whirlpool Washer (turquoise '59 G E dw pix)
MESSAGE: no use oldappliancenut@yahoo.com
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Post# 30742-7/5/2003-15:24 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Purex "HE" Tablet's: (Re: Purex "
HE"
Tablet's:)
MESSAGE: Hey! Club Members, I've got some replies to my offer, so the Tablet's are "all present and accounted for" to "taker's" replied. Sorry for anyone else who might have been interested.
Regards, Steve
Sacto Teddy Bear...
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Post# 30743-7/5/2003-16:14 ||| Katierose (VA)
SUBJECT: Kelvinator Pitcher
MESSAGE: Does anyone know what date (s) Kelvinator refrigerators came with pitchers ? Have one my Grandmother used in her fridge, my children have asked when Grandma bought it and have no idea..it was before my time. Thanks for the assist
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Post# 30744-7/5/2003-19:07 ||| alr2903 (new orleans)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (Sq Filter)
MESSAGE: You certainly know your SQ's thanks for the pics, I had never seen that filter arrangement. VERY NICE pics. TCOX, Jasonl, Saturday sounds good I will e-Mail you to confirm, Todd, Jason glad you both came through TS Bill OK, I checked your posts, hope we don't have to go through that again for at least a couple of weeks... :-)
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Post# 30745-7/5/2003-20:35 ||| Pulsator (826 Vesper ,Ann Arbor, Michigan 48103)
SUBJECT: Vari-Flex agitator removal question
MESSAGE: Okay here is the situation, I went to the junkyard and found a beautiful in perfect shape Kenmore 900 washer. I am trying to remove the agitator and run into a problem.I got the cap, spring, bolt, top part of the agitator, and the variable fins out, but i cannot get the underneath agitator out, you know with the spiral "Fins" I guess you could call them. The bolt is out and I pull up, it moves up easily, but then stps to the sound of what appears to be another bolt. Where is this bolt and how do I get the rest out of the machine? I need to know by 1:00 pm eastern time, sunday. It would also be nice to get the basket out too. Any info on how to do that would be wonderous. I have already gotten all the way down to the part where you can see between the two tubs. I got stopped by the agitator of course.
THANK YOU SO MUCH!
-Jamie-
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Post# 30746-7/5/2003-21:09 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: New York Trip
MESSAGE: I am leaving tomorrow morning for New York. I would like to touch base with some of the NYC members while I am there. I will be staying in the Bronx and will have my lap top so drop me a line if you want to get together. Email address is svb14@hotmail.com.
Steve1-18
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Post# 30747-7/5/2003-22:03 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: Classic Appliance South East Fall Wash - In
MESSAGE: A reminder about the Classic Appliance South East Wash-in this fall. My collection is modest, but if you need a washer fix I’m planning a get together October 24th – October 26th. This is open to all, but I would like a head count. I’ll check into lodging when I get back.
Closest airport is Bush Field, Augusta, GA.
Atlanta, GA is approximately 2.5 hours by car.
Charlotte, NC is approximately 3 hours by car.
Columbia, SC is approximately 1.5 hours by car.
Savannah, GA is approximately 3 hours by car.
Special e-mail address for Classic Appliance South East Wash-in is:
applianceville@comcast.net
If you want to be kept updated, email me at that special address and you will be put on the mailing list. Please note: I WILL NOT be checking that mailbox until I return home.
Happy Independence Weekend!
Steve1-18
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Post# 30748-7/5/2003-22:14 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Classic Appliances Deep South Wash-In
MESSAGE: Next Saturday, me, Todd and hopefully ALR will get together for a fun wash-in.
We'll be playing with the green team (1-18s), the 65 Rapidry, the 66, the Skinny Minni AND Best Buy will deliver the LG set. That's 5 washers to be played with!
The FrigiBears and the AgiCub do it again.
Why? Because we're CADS!
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Post# 30749-7/5/2003-22:56 ||| Loveoldkitchens (Elizabeth, NJ)
SUBJECT: Help identifying an old Frigidaire
MESSAGE: I purchased a beautiful Frigidaire this week, but despite an exhaustive search, I cannot figure out it's year, only that I believe it to be between 1952 and 1955. This I think because I think 1952 was the first yr for the Cyclamatic, and starting 1956 the top of the fridge was squarer. It is a Frigidaire Imperial Cyclamatic. It has a single door, with the freezer on the bottom (you pull down an aluminum door, and theres a freezer basket) On the door is a separate butter/cheese thing, w/it's own colder/warmer knob. Door also has a clear plastic holder that has a door that pulls down. Ice trays go on very bottom underneath the freezer door. It says "model CIV-115" on the back, but any search I've done has turned up nothing. Thank you in advance for any help you can give me. I will try to get a picture to post, maybe that will help.
Thanks, Cheryl
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Post# 30750-7/5/2003-23:59 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinator Pitcher
MESSAGE: Probably from the 1940's or even earlier. Check eBay auctions, I see many of these refrigerator pitchers, servers and storage dishes up for sale so perhaps someone will know a little more history.
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Post# 30751-7/6/2003-01:10 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: GM custom imperial dishwasher
MESSAGE: me and my hunny found a gm frigidiare custom imperial dishwasher in nice shape has the rotoswril wash system pics to follow later its still on the truck
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Post# 30752-7/6/2003-05:22 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: GM custom imperial dishwasher (send pic's soon)
MESSAGE: I have only seen pic's of a machine like that once before. Great find. Looking forward to seeing the pic's. Wish I had luck like that. Take care. Michael
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Post# 30753-7/6/2003-08:39 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Solid Gold Maytags on Ebay (Maytag dimensions)
MESSAGE: Is it just my imagination, or is it that Maytag dryers are bigger (outside) than their washers, whereas other manufacturers have the washer and dryer the same size?
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Post# 30754-7/6/2003-08:58 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Solid Gold Maytags on Ebay (Maytag dementia)
MESSAGE: Some dryers are 30" instead of 27". That makes for a super capacity dryer. Notice the washer and dryer are placed correctly (washer on left and dryer on right) but the dryer door is reversed.
Evil Maytag.
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Post# 30755-7/6/2003-09:00 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Older dishwashers short wash cycles (Modern Frigidaire cleaning deficiency)
MESSAGE: When we moved into our current house in the 80's, it came with a Montgomery Ward (Frigidaire clone). We used it for a while, but I immediately noticed it didn't do as good a job on its "Heavy" cycle as our old 1978 Sears (D&M) dishwasher did on its "Water Miser" cycle. Since our old house was demolished for an apartment building, we brought the dishwasher (and other things) with us, and I eventually got fed up and took out the Wards and put back the Sears.
The Sears is finally starting to show it's age and I'm going to soon overhaul it, which I will document in pictures. It's been slowly getting more and more annoying to operate, to the point I'm the only one in the house who can run it properly, otherwise I have to brief all the roommates on it's "quirks", such as:
detergent dispenser and rinse agent dispensers haven't worked in years( I have to wait for the main wash and manually add detergent), which I recently discovered is probably because of a...
bad heating element, which also means...
wash water isn't kept hot, no Sani Temp, no hot dry, AND....
machine timer turns off, but dry fan keeps going forever(and it SCREECHES) and I can't start a new cycle unless I go out and turn off the power at the circuit breaker panel.
The inner door panel has rusted so that it has broken away from the left door hinge, so if I don't close the door JUST right, it leaks. To top it all off, the door springs broke so the door is very heavy. And it's ready for it's 3rd set of racks. Anybody else would've given up and bought a new one, but it's a first year Solid State model, bought new, so I'm sticking with it. I figure it would cost around $600 to replacce it with today's equivalent model, so to me, it's worth it.
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Post# 30756-7/6/2003-09:09 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (gas/electric)
MESSAGE: OK, so you're spending all this money to upgrade the elctrical, but youbought a GAS dryer? So what are you going to plug into the 220 volt line,a nd where is it going to be?
What brand of circuit breakers were in the original box? A 100 amp main would easily accomadate an electric dryer. Depending on the brand of circuit breakers, someties you can replace one "thick" circuit breaker with 2 "thin" ones, which then opens up a slot. I noticed in our GE breaker panel that some of the breakers actually take up 2 slots (and they're not double-gang 220 volt breakers, either) and that by replaicng them with newer "thinline" ones, I was able to gain space without a complete overhaul.
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Post# 30757-7/6/2003-09:31 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: New (Old) Appliances Finds, A Very Lucky Week (Speed Queen in junk pile)
MESSAGE: "I can't help but wonder why would anyone get rid of such great machines."
Me, neither, especially when the machine STILL WORKS!
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Post# 30758-7/6/2003-17:05 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool/Inglis washer on ebay gone to the crusher? (crusher)
MESSAGE: people lookignm for a used wahser don't usually check E-bay, you need to put it in your local fish wrapper for some small price, or, worst case scenario, set it out with a sign that says "Works, no space for it"
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Post# 30759-7/6/2003-18:35 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Help identifying an old Frigidaire
MESSAGE: Welcome -
Neat find you have there, this refrigerator is a 1955. Aluminum "Roll To You" shelves, "Picture Window Hydrator" (in the door) and the first year of forced air cooling for Frigidaire in the refrigerator compartment. The Letters in the model number are: C = CyclaMatic I = Imperial V = production year (55) and the numbers are the size of the unit = 11.5 (or 115)
At and estate sale this weekend, I saw a 1955 model, but not as nice or large, what beautiful machines these were - enjoy yours!
Greg
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Post# 30760-7/6/2003-19:00 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Older dishwashers short wash cycles (Modern Frigidaire cleaning deficiency)
MESSAGE: My parent's former neighbor had this same dishwasher in their kitchen, barely used with harvest gold panels. I remember looking at that in the catalog when it came out and dreaming of the portable model for our kitchen in coffee to match our stove and refrigerator. We had a roto-rack dishwasher that was a miserable performer but the D&M Roper (with rapid-advance timer) that was in this house did a fine job. I remember the terrible drinking problem it had, I've never seen a dishwasher use that much water for a normal cycle.
Do you have a donor machine in good shape for a new door panel and racks? Sounds like you have quite a job ahead of you, but all the work I put into my KDS-18 was worth it too. Best of luck - Greg
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Post# 30761-7/6/2003-19:13 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (gas/electric)
MESSAGE: It's not just one electric dryer - it's four or five! I think it's a good idea to upgrade the electric service when that many appliances, air-conditioning, range, etc. are installed, better to have empty slots than piggybacking and pushing the limit. More is better when you collect major appliances!
I have my Cutler Hammer box crammed and still need power for my garage - I have only one outlet on an already overloaded circuit. I'm running a gas line to the garage soon to use a newer Kenmore 27", it's cheaper to operate and excellent for "grunt" day to day drying.
Our power went out in a storm last night at midnight and was out until 4 PM today, no cooking, vacuuming, washing, a/c, TV...the house is too quiet with nothing running, I nearly went out of my mind!!
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Post# 30762-7/6/2003-20:05 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (gas/electric)
MESSAGE: Hi Kenmore'78, you've obviously have never been to my house. I think you confusing me with a "normal" person. I have 30 or so automatic washers, 3 gas dryers, 5 electric dryers, 2 electric stoves, one pink built in oven, most of which will hopefully be hooked up by year's end, plus we need 2 extra 220volt outlets for Central Air. 100 Amp and 16 slots ain't gonna cut it. A new shiny 40 slot 200 amp panel is a must have in our house.
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Post# 30763-7/6/2003-21:23 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (Your electric company loves you)
MESSAGE: I'd hate to see your energy and water bill but I guess it's all worth it.
So how's your Har... uhh... I'll ask in the Sandbox :-D
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Post# 30764-7/6/2003-21:46 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (Your electric company loves you)
MESSAGE: Hi Jason,
My bills aren't really higher than anyone elses, I don't do any more laundry than most others, I just have lots of choices in which to do those eight or so loads a week.
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Post# 30765-7/7/2003-01:06 ||| loveoldkitchens (Elizabeth, NJ)
SUBJECT: RE: Help identifying an old Frigidaire (!)
MESSAGE: Thank you Thank you Thank you, Greg!
Was very kind of you to share your knowledge with me. Like I said, I had a hunch it was between '52 & '55. You're totally right about the "roll to you" shelves, and the Picture Window Hydrator (wondered what that thing was called) All parts are there and in excellent condition, runs like a champ. Only thing needs to be replaced is the rubber gasket. See, we had a fire in the house we just moved ino last year, and since we have to rebuild anyway, we're tearing apart the awful, new (horrors!) style kitchen that was there and remodeling it in late '40s/early 50's style. I lucked out with the fridge for only 25.00 from a nice old lady at an estate sale. She even turned down a 150.00 offer from a dealer cause she wanted me to have it.
oh, yeah, and it's that cool vintage mint green color inside, too!
Sorry to run on, and thank you again, Greg for taking the time out to help me.
Cheryl
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Post# 30766-7/7/2003-01:15 ||| loveoldkitchens (Elizabeth, NJ)
SUBJECT: RE: Help identifying an old Frigidaire
MESSAGE: Thank you Thank you Thank you, Greg!
It was very kind of you to help me out with this. I had a hunch it was between 52 and 55. You're right about the "roll to you" shelves and the Picture Window Hydrator (so that's what it's called) It's in excellent condition w/all icetrays and parts intact, plus it's that cool vintage minty green inside. I really lucked on the price too - 25.00 from a nice elderly lady selling her home. She even turned down 150.00 from a dealer cause she wanted me to have it.
See, we inherited an older house last year and had an electrical fire. So we're remodeling right now and tearing out the horrible "new" style kitchen that was there and re-doing it like late 40's/early 50's style. So the fridge will fit right in. The only thing I have to find is a new gasket for it and it's set.
Anyhow, sorry to run on and thank you very much again for taking the time out to help me.
Cheryl
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Post# 30767-7/7/2003-01:24 ||| loveoldkitchens (Elizabeth, NJ)
SUBJECT: Thank you Greg (gansky1)
MESSAGE: Thank you very much for your help w/my Frigidaire question. You're right about the "roll to you" shelves. It's in excellent condition and runs like a champ. See, we had a house fire last year, so we're remodeling our kitchen to a late 40's/early 50's style. I picked up the fridge at an estate sale for 25.00. Oh, and it's that cool vintage minty green color inside, white on the outside. It's got all the original icetrays and really the only thing wrong is it needs a new rubber door gasket. So the search begins...
Sorry to run on, and thank you again for taking the time out to help me, it was very kind of you.
Cheryl
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Post# 30768-7/7/2003-01:28 ||| loveoldkitchens (Elizabeth, NJ)
SUBJECT: OOOOOOPS! SORRY FOR MULTIPLE POSTS!!!!!!
MESSAGE: Please forgive me for the multiple posts! After the first two, it told me my messages were blank and nothing was posted. So I figured I'd post a new one. Then all THREE showed up!
So don't be mad guys, I'm new....be gentle..
Cheryl
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Post# 30769-7/7/2003-05:34 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Older dishwashers short wash cycles (Sears dishwasher overhaul)
MESSAGE: Actually, I've accumulated all the needed parts from Sears, amazingly, only a couple of parts are no longer available. Formerly when I ordered parts, they came labeled as Frigidaire parts. Now I notice that parts are coming labeled as Electrolux, I guess they're finally taking advantage of their trademark agreement with Electrolux floor care folks. The original door panel was porcelain on steel, the new new one is plastic backed up by a steel frame, and the detergent dispenser is TOTALLY different, now being the round type with the flip open doors covering the cups instead of the flip out cup of the original dispenser.
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Post# 30770-7/7/2003-05:39 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (gas/electric)
MESSAGE: WOW, you ARE going to need major power! of course, you could try to collect only the gas versions of any particular model, but it really depends on where you live. As I've mentioned here before, I live in Los Angeles and virtually EVERY dryer I've seen being tossed out on the lawn waiting for the city to take it away was a gas dryer. Electric versions are maybe every 10th one, and even then it's usually a portable model.
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Post# 30771-7/7/2003-05:45 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (100 amps)
MESSAGE: I don't think even 200 amps is gonna cut it! You're approaching laundromat specifications! So how big's that water main to your house.....:-)
One thing about gas, you can hook up a LOT of gas appliances before you actually have to go to a bigger main.
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Post# 30772-7/7/2003-06:09 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (Your electric company loves you)
MESSAGE: True, but you'll sure be ready for a wash-in! Gee, I can heal the symphony of all those solenoids, clutches, motors, and relays now :-)
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Post# 30773-7/7/2003-06:21 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Appliances Deep South Wash-In (LG New set)
MESSAGE: So what modern set are the new LG's replaceing
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Post# 30774-7/7/2003-07:15 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Classic Appliances Deep South Wash-In (LG New set)
MESSAGE: Actually, I didn't have a modern set. I used my 1-18's as my primary set; but, I decided to get the LG set to cut down on their wear and tear.
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Post# 30775-7/7/2003-10:13 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (gas/electric)
MESSAGE: Robert,
Glad that you are getting the larger circuit box...you won't regret it!
Duane
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Post# 30776-7/7/2003-10:15 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (gas/electric)
MESSAGE: Are you sure you will only need a 40 slot panel Robert? I have 1 40 slot 200 amp main panel that is full and had to add a 20 slot sub-panel which by year end might have to upgraded to a 40 slot.......
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Post# 30777-7/7/2003-10:43 ||| sandrapage (Marquette, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Marion Electric Stove
MESSAGE: First time posting. We have a Marion electric stove in the cabin we just bought. It has lovely clean lines, rounded edges, good condition finish, the racks in the oven are quite rusted. It seems to work, have not yet tested the temperature in the oven. Has anyone any information on this stove? We had a great 1947 chrome yellow Chambers in our last house and know the pleasure of a classic stove. Do we have another one?
Sandra
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Post# 30778-7/7/2003-11:23 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Older dishwashers short wash cycles (Sears dishwasher overhaul)
MESSAGE: I'm confused...if this is the dishwasher I'm thinking of, the one with the electronic buttons and the little door that slides over them, isn't that a D&M product? Did that become part of WCI at some point too?
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Post# 30779-7/7/2003-11:26 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (gas/electric)
MESSAGE: California seems to be a very gas-oriented place. With the propensity for earthquakes and the minimal need for household heating, one would almost think there would be no gas installed there at all, but it is of course quite the opposite.
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Post# 30780-7/7/2003-11:46 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Unimatic's washer videos
MESSAGE: To the original members of this club:
A while back Robert had videotape of his washers in action. He said that one of you guys has it and I wonder if I can get a copy it.
Thanks.
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Post# 30781-7/7/2003-13:19 ||| Bearcat (Roselle, IL)
SUBJECT: HELP WITH GE RANGE - SENSI-TEMP FEATURE
MESSAGE: I have inherited an older GE Electric Range (1960's?). The range is in great shape except for one thing. It has a feature on one of the burners called "Sensi-Temp". There is a sensor in the left, front burner, a temperature set dial on the backsplash, and push buttons to select 4", 6", 8", or griddle pan size. The burner is not working. It begins to heat but quickly shuts down. GE has been no help at all. There appears to be several components to the system and some of the parts seem to be available (but expensive). Can anyone help with diagnostic information? Can anyone explain the components? Copies of pages out of a service manual would be very helpful. Any ideas on where I can obtain them? Thanks for any help you can give me.
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Post# 30782-7/7/2003-16:11 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Unimatic's washer videos (Member links)
MESSAGE: Jason,
If you go to the member links on this page you will find there links to Dadoes' 2001 convention pictures part 1 and part 2. If you go there, you will find lots of videos at the bottom of both pages. Wonderful videos (and pictures).
Louis
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Post# 30783-7/7/2003-17:46 ||| salvoboy (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (gas/electric)
MESSAGE: Hi Scott-
Yes, California is a very gas-oriented place. It is the dominant fuel for heating, cooking, hot water. It's also quite common for clothes drying. I think it has to do with our expensive electricity for one thing. Our low NOx gas burners also burn cleanly so gas is pretty good for smog compared to oil for heating. As far as earthquakes go, our building codes take care of much of that concern. Hot water heaters are strapped to the wall and most homeowners know exactly how to turn off their gas at the main. Some folks even have seismic trip devices on the meter. I have a crescent wrench taped to mine. That's earthquake 101. Meanwhile, in Northern Calif. we have a moderately long heating season. I'd hate to do that with anything but gas just as I'd hate to dry clothes with anything but gas with electricity at near 15 cents/kw.
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Post# 30784-7/7/2003-18:16 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (gas/electric)
MESSAGE: Oh the cost, of course. Our electricity is about half that here.
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Post# 30785-7/7/2003-18:31 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Make beer in a washing machine
MESSAGE: This is a German priest who makes beer in what looks like a twin-tub hooked up to a computer.
Louis might be able to translate this for us.
Go to "Bierbrauen" there's a link with the word "maschine", click it and you'll see the washer.
LINK: http://www.m-fey.de
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Post# 30786-7/7/2003-19:21 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: TESTING GE SENSI-TEMP
MESSAGE: One test is to connect the two leads from the sensor together and see if the control runs on high only. If so, you have a bad sensor. Those either have white or yellow wires, and you have to replace with the same color sensor...good chance that's the trouble. In other words, put a wire nut on the two wires running up to the control, in place of the sensor - bypass the sensor & see if the unit operates on high only....
B
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Post# 30787-7/7/2003-22:15 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: GE Mobile Maid DW
MESSAGE: found a GE mobile maid DW, not sure on the date, model # SM200, does anyone know year ?? I am guessing late sixties or very early seventies. It is in excellent condition and works fine. Pics to follow......
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Post# 30788-7/7/2003-22:26 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Older dishwashers short wash cycles (Modern Frigidaire cleaning deficiency)
MESSAGE: Frigidaire dishwashers were ALWAYS the weak performance link in their product line up. (I feel a slap coming on fur sure)!!!
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Post# 30789-7/7/2003-23:35 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Older dishwashers short wash cycles (Sears dishwasher overhaul)
MESSAGE: "I'm confused...if this is the dishwasher I'm thinking of, the one with the electronic buttons and the little door that slides over them, isn't that a D&M product? Did that become part of WCI at some point too?"
Yes and yes, and WCI is owned by Electrolux, largest appliance maker in the world (Whirlpool is #2 in world, though #1 in US.)
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Post# 30790-7/7/2003-23:38 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (gas/electric)
MESSAGE: Ironically, the larger of the 2 electric utilities that serve Southern California (Southern California Edison) used to own what became Southern California Gas in the early 1900's, but sold it because they didn't see a "future" in gas.
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Post# 30791-7/7/2003-23:57 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Older dishwashers short wash cycles (Frigidaire weak link)
MESSAGE: When Granny got the new appliances for the house she built in 1963, she insisted on all Frigidaire appliances, but I remember her specifically saying she DIDN'T
like their clothes washers. She would occasionally wash in one of her friend's Frigidaire wahsers when she would visit them, and it was one of the 3 ring agitator "tanglers", so I think that had something to do with it. When she did get a washer it was a '56 GE that sat brand new and unused until 1960 when we moved into a different house that could accomodate it.
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Post# 30792-7/8/2003-01:55 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Make beer in a washing machine
MESSAGE: Jason,
That is not a twintub, but an automatic H-axis washer that just doesn't spin. The beer recipes are not for brewing in a washer.
Louis
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Post# 30793-7/8/2003-05:03 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Mobile Maid DW (Mobile Maid Dishwasher)
MESSAGE: I am looking forward to seeing pic's. Does it have a pink interior,? does it have a power shower on the lid,. I have been looking for one of these for some time. I'm hoping for a GE drawer style built in with a power shower, inpeller wash. I know before they did the switch over to pump wash the later impeller wash machines had this power shower on the lid but have never seen on a built in model. Do you or anyone else know of any other impeller wash machines that was the drawer style. Any info or pic's would be greatly appreciated. I have 3 top loader portables now & looking for a good home for them. Still in the hunt for a GE impeller wash built in or Westinghouse impeller wash built in. My 3rd choice is a GE mobile Maid portable. Not so easy to find here. Looking forward to seeing those pic's. Have a great day Michael
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Post# 30794-7/8/2003-07:43 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Mobile Maid DW (GE Mobile Maid DW)
MESSAGE: Mike, it is top load and has the power shower, three level wash, even has the original owner's manual, it has a light blue interior. It has a stainless steel spray arm with a tower that rises in the middle. Pics will come ... ...
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Post# 30795-7/8/2003-08:12 ||| davy1063 (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: Unimatic's washer videos
MESSAGE: Just emailed you the two I had. They were from a turquoise rollermatic ('65 I believe).
Let me know if these are the ones.
Dave
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Post# 30796-7/8/2003-09:58 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Unimatic's washer videos
MESSAGE: No. Way back when, Robert videoed the complete wash cycles of the ABC-O-Matic, the '58 Unimatic, the WP combo and the '59 Duomatic. I believe this is the tape Jason so covets. Clips from this tape can be pulled digitally from the museum. My tape is buried somewhere...
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Post# 30797-7/8/2003-10:33 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Mobile Maid DW (GE Mobile Maid DW)
MESSAGE: Greg, is this an all-push button model like one john had in the warehouse at the convention last August? I'd love to see a copy of the owners manual if it is. Bob
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Post# 30798-7/8/2003-10:39 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Unimatic's washer videos (tape)
MESSAGE: Glenn (DADoES) is making a copy of this. Robert no longer has the master tape. Of course, I'm gonna burn it to DVD so it never gets worn out.
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Post# 30799-7/8/2003-10:40 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Unimatic's washer videos (tape)
MESSAGE: Glenn (DADoES) is making a copy of this. Robert no longer has the master tape. Of course, I'm gonna burn it to DVD so it never gets worn out.
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Post# 30800-7/8/2003-11:06 ||| salvoboy (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (gas/electric)
MESSAGE: Yeah, that is kind of funny. Especially since The Gas Company is the largest gas utility in the country and is owned by a parent that is also an electric utility (Sempra/San Diego G&E). Talk about things coming full-circle. Staying more on the subject of appliances...
How do we explain that uniquely Los Angeles phenomenon of apartments not coming with refrigerators? I've lived all over the US and Vancouver BC and nowhere was that common but LA. Are/were Angelenos the original classic appliance collectors? Could it be they just couldn't part with that '63 Frigidaire or that '57 Kelvinator, so they just moved them from place to place? Maybe even more interesting is the huge market of used refrigerators. Hmmm... now there's an opportunity.
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Post# 30801-7/8/2003-14:49 ||| Nutoner (Arizona)
SUBJECT: Nutone Food Center
MESSAGE: I am looking for a Nutone Food Center. It is an undercounter motor which drives blenders, knife sharpeners, ice shavers, etc. Parts or complete unit desired.
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Post# 30802-7/8/2003-17:15 ||| FNELSON487 (St. Charles, Il)
SUBJECT: James Portable Dishwasher on Ebay
MESSAGE: Well guys, you've seen it on POD and here is one for sale. Too bad it doesn't have to stove to slip into.
Fred Nelson
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3232565469&category=12514
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Post# 30803-7/8/2003-21:41 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Mobile Maid DW (GE Mobile Maid DW)
MESSAGE: BOB, no it just has the control dial in the upper right front, and that is all, no special cycles or pushbuttons whatsoever
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Post# 30804-7/8/2003-23:07 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: James Portable Dishwasher on Ebay (Where is it?)
MESSAGE: Hmmm, where is the dishwasher located, it doesn't seem to say in the ad?
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Post# 30805-7/8/2003-23:08 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: That's more like it
MESSAGE: The Harmony is cute but I was starting to go through withdrawls, aaahhhhhhh.......
LINK: http://classicappliances.com/TEMP/Thats_more_like_it.jpg
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Post# 30806-7/8/2003-23:51 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: James Portable Dishwasher on Ebay (Where is it?)
MESSAGE: The location must not be a required field anymore. Since they started with this new format, I've noticed some have a location and some do not.
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Post# 30807-7/8/2003-23:52 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: That's more like it
MESSAGE: First vintage machine in the new basement, and such a pretty one at that! Gotta love that windowed dryer door though, gives one pause as to why perhaps they did not place one on the washer...
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Post# 30808-7/8/2003-23:59 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (Los Angeles apartment refrigerators)
MESSAGE: Having lived in or near L.A. all my life, I guess I was sheltered because virtually all the people I knew who lived in apartments provided their own refrigerators, so I thought this was the "norm" everywhere. This seemed to be just as well since the few I knew where a fridge WAS provided, it almost always was some small, cheap, one door, manual defrost model, usually abused by the former tenant with broken and missing parts and dirty.
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Post# 30809-7/9/2003-00:16 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (Los Angeles apartment refrigerators)
MESSAGE: I agree, but then I suppose I would being an appliance buff, LOL. I would much rather buy or choose appliances to my own liking. I remember when my sister moved to CA years ago they bought a refrigerator for their apartment and I was thinking, I like that system! She did too.
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Post# 30810-7/9/2003-00:31 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Mobile Maid DW
MESSAGE: Hi Greg - another great find, you let me know when you have a garage sale...I'll be there!
Does your model number on this GE Mobile Maid have any letters & numbers after the SM200? My GE book has several SM200xx series dishwashers in the late 60's. The serial number would also help pinpoint it too.
Greg N
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Post# 30811-7/9/2003-00:39 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: James Portable Dishwasher on Ebay (Where is it?)
MESSAGE: There seem to be a lot of gaps in the description and shipping info of this item. Evidently they have a pool as it lists "poolside" for payment acceptance under location and she also lists the shipping cost as $100 for inside the US. Strange, I would think it would cost more unless they are planning on just writing the name and address on it and stick $100 in postage stamps on the top!
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Post# 30812-7/9/2003-00:46 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: That's more like it
MESSAGE: There's nothing in the world like the hum of a unimatic....I wouldn't be able to stand it either, no matter what the new washer was!
Have you done a spin test yet?
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Post# 30813-7/9/2003-01:07 ||| JAKINS (Kissimmee, Fl.)
SUBJECT: RE: James Portable Dishwasher on Ebay (Where is it?)
MESSAGE: Hi Guys
The seller emailed me and the dishwasher is in Youngstown Ohio.
John
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Post# 30814-7/9/2003-07:13 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: That's more like it
MESSAGE: Robert, now how on earth did I KNOW that the WCI58 would be the FIRST one brought out of storage and connected. I don't blame ya for going through withdrawls. I kinda have the same experience. I thoroughly enjoy being able to do laundry over the phone with Greg so that I can hear a Frigidaire ever few weeks, or at least once a month. Whew!!!!!! But I'm also getting very BORED with my shredmore. I pine for something exciting to watch when doing wash. I even waited last night until my dishwasher finished running before I called a friend of mine, just so I could listen to it run through the cycle.
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Post# 30815-7/9/2003-07:14 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: That's more like it (Spin Test)
MESSAGE: No spin test yet, but don't worry with Jetcone coming in for the weekend we sure will do lots of washing tests!
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Post# 30816-7/9/2003-07:16 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: James Portable Dishwasher on Ebay (Shameful)
MESSAGE: WHAT, a James DW in Youngstown??? Ohhh how NAUGHTY, they surely should have bought a Youngstown Jet-Tower.
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Post# 30817-7/9/2003-07:32 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: That's more like it
MESSAGE: Now install a Kelvinator, and a Kenmore 800 and it would be PERFECT!
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Post# 30818-7/9/2003-07:40 ||| Gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Mobile Maid DW (date-gansky)
MESSAGE: Hey Greg, I will find out the exact model and serial #'s and let you know so you can possibly help me with the date. Garage sale or not, your welcome here anytime ... ... ...
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Post# 30819-7/9/2003-07:51 ||| Frigilux (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: Harmony at Uni's
MESSAGE: What's all this then? A non-vintage laundry pair at Uni's?! Has the world spun off its axis? Congrats on the new place, Uni!
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Post# 30820-7/9/2003-09:36 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (Los Angeles apartment refrigerators)
MESSAGE: I have often been surprised reading posts here about people organizing for a washer and dryer to be "left" for the new owners/tenants. Here in Aus you ALWAYS expect to provide all your own appliances, except perhaps where there are shared laundry facilities (which is unusual). I have never heard of a fridge being left, occasionally a washer will be left but only if it is an unwanted piece of junk. The only exception is dishwashers which are usually part of the sale. I have heard of disputes over dishwashers, where there was one when the house was on display but it had vanished once the contracts were signed. Usually these days the sale contract mentions if any "fixtures and fittings" are included in the sale and lists them as part of the contract.
Chris.
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Post# 30821-7/9/2003-09:41 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Harmony at Uni's
MESSAGE: It's all in the name.
To keep Uni's collection of special machines safe, he bought a modern set for his partner to use.
->This gives freedom from laundry-related arguments.
->domestic HARMONY.
Chris :)
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Post# 30822-7/9/2003-09:59 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: Fire Destroys vintage Parts Warehouse
MESSAGE: Fellow Club members
My supplier for vintage parts went up in flames over the fourth of July holiday. I am distraught to say the least all those wonderful part gone up in smoke. A gold mine gone to further restorations.
Oh well such is life sometimes
Philippe
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Post# 30823-7/9/2003-11:11 ||| Pulsator (826 Vesper ,Ann Arbor, Michigan 48103)
SUBJECT: RE: That's more like it (Robert, I have a quick question.)
MESSAGE: Listen, I know this is off topic but I can't find the link to the sandbox, what is the brand of that modern set?! If you are going to sell them for more vintage, I pay you $300.00 for that washer! I have never seen anything like it! Do you think I could possibly have a picture of the interior of that washer?
Best Washes
-Jamie-
LINK: http://classicappliances.com/TEMP/Thats_more_like_it.jpg
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Post# 30824-7/9/2003-11:31 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: That's more like it (Robert, I have a quick question.)
MESSAGE: Hi there Jamie. Click the link below to go to the off-topic sandbox. Look for the thread "The New Set" and go back to the first few post. I have posted quite a few pictures of the interior, including the machine operating. As for your offer, thank you very much, but I think for now I'm going to keep the set, it will be going into the "modern laundry" room in my new basement.
Maybe I should call that room the "Sandbox". LOL
LINK: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Applianceville-Sandbox/messages
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Post# 30825-7/9/2003-11:35 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (Los Angeles apartment refrigerators)
MESSAGE: That's how it works here too. You bring your own appliances unless there are integrated appliances like dishwashers and ovens. When you move out a rental you can only leave a washer behind if the new tenant agrees to that. Otherwise the washer will probably be removed by the owner and you end up paying the costs for that.
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Post# 30826-7/9/2003-12:33 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: That's more like it (Robert, I have a quick question.)
MESSAGE: "Pulsator":
The set that you see sitting beside that 1958 Frigidaire Unimatic is the 2003 General Electric Profile Harmony Clothes Care Set. The washer is kind of built like a Whirlpool Gold/Kenmore Elite Calypso, but the wash tub/agitation plate inside of the GE Profile does not use a turning/rocking motion like the Whirlpool Gold/Kenmore Elite Calypso does. The GE instead uses a reverse centrifusion action. It does (talking about the GE Profile Harmony) have a stainless steel wash tub just like other premium washers the Harmony competes with. The premise for designing this washer in the first place is (just like Whirlpool did with the Calypso) is to provide the performance and energy saving benefits of a front loader with the convenience of a top loader. Maytag also has an interesting design coming out soon. I believe that model is called a top loading "Neptune" washer. The GE Profile Harmony is an interesting washer in its own right. But the one that seems to be holding my interest is that top loading "Neptune" from Maytag. When that one comes out, I cannot wait to see that one. I wonder if Best Buy is going to carry that one too. The are already carrying the LG front loading models. I like the LGs as well.
Oh........ by the way, I believe the GE Profile Harmony retails for about $1,200.00 (with the dryer retailing for almost $1,000.00). So...... I don't know if "Uni" is going to let that one go for just $300.00. But that's just my opinion.
I like the GE Profile Harmony myself. Definitely, one of the best washers that GE has came out with in a long time.
--Charles--
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Post# 30827-7/9/2003-16:10 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (Los Angeles apartment refrigerators)
MESSAGE: From experience here, a built-in dishwasher is expected to stay, unless negotiated that it would be replaced with a different one and the original one taken. This rarely happens. In the case of refrigerators/ranges/washers/dryers, the new owners are asked if they want them, if they do, they're negotiated with the price of the house, if not, the old owners take them with them, or if the new house already has appliances, the ones from the old house are removed and either given away or sold.
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Post# 30828-7/9/2003-16:19 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: My Ideal Washer
MESSAGE: Hi Guys hope your all well, I just wanna tell you all that my Hotpoint front loader has now died compleatly. The good news is I will be taking delivery of a Hotpoint top loader automatic, circa 1980s. The machine has been refurbished with various new parts, new brake etc. The beuty of this machine is, it has a quick wash cycle on it which will have great savings on electric and running costs. It has 3 water wash levels and 2 wash speeds and 2 spin speed cyles 500 revs and 1040 revs. After filling the machine starts with a short detergent dissolve wash then is stops, then the machine heats the water to the chosen wash temperature. Hotpoint then fires up again and washes the clothes for the set time. After a neutral drain, the clothes are automatically spun and spin sprayed. The only disadvantage is the machine performs 1 main agitated cold rinse cycle, I am looking forward to this machine comeing, I had a Hotpoint Liberartor top loader back in the 80s and I loved that machine. It had to go because I was unemployed at the time and could not afford to run this machine.
If all goes well I will provide pics and vids of this machine in action regards to all
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Post# 30829-7/9/2003-16:29 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: My Ideal Washer
MESSAGE: Sounds great! My friend Mike, who is also a UK member of this club, has two of these machines. We used them when I visited last year. Very nice machines! He likes them too.
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Post# 30830-7/9/2003-16:36 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: My Ideal Washer
MESSAGE: Those UK Hotpoints have that classic Spiralator type agitator. I can't wait to see videos.
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Post# 30831-7/9/2003-16:49 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Another storm
MESSAGE: TS Claudette is headed west for Mexico but she could decide to turn north and come to the wash-in... or should I say WASH-OUT? An unwelcome guest to the wash-in indeed.
Let's keep our fingers crossed and hope the washer gods play in our favor and not let that storm ruin a perfectly good Saturday.
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Post# 30832-7/9/2003-16:49 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Another storm
MESSAGE: TS Claudette is headed west for Mexico but she could decide to turn north and come to the wash-in... or should I say WASH-OUT? An unwelcome guest to the wash-in indeed.
Let's keep our fingers crossed and hope the washer gods play in our favor and not let that storm ruin a perfectly good Saturday.
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Post# 30833-7/9/2003-17:49 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: My Ideal Washer (If my run of bad luck runs out )
MESSAGE: If my run of bad luck runs out guys, you will see the vids and pics of my washer. it may take a few weeks so do bear with me
Yes Hotpoint did use the spiralator agitator on the toploaders and twin tubs of the 1970s and 1980s, regards to all.
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Post# 30834-7/9/2003-19:33 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Fire Destroys vintage Parts Warehouse
MESSAGE: Philippe, I am so sorryl I feel like I've been kicked in the stomach. If I feel like this, I can't imagine how you feel. Hope no one was hurt though. Bob
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Post# 30835-7/9/2003-19:40 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: My Ideal Washer
MESSAGE: Congratulations on the "new" washer. Sounds fascinating. 1040 rpms, hmm, too bad our domestic top loaders built back then couldn't do such a performance. How much water does a maximum fill for the wash cycle consume? I'd like to know how long it takes to heat the water to specific temps with that volume of water. And really with a spray rinse at 1040 rpms, that should helpt with the rinsing quite well. And I'm glad you posted again. Welcome back!!! Please keep returning. Bob
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Post# 30836-7/9/2003-19:47 ||| washinmomma (Texas)
SUBJECT: Pink Kenmore Wringer Washer
MESSAGE: I have found a Pink, Sears Kenmore 2 Speed Wringer Washer. It is not in working condition, but I believe with a little tlc it would be a wonderful machine.
I have never seen a pink one, but My Mom still uses her Maytag Wringer, and my Grandma used hers up till last year when she passed away. I used one for the first 5 years I was married, and I loved it. My diapers (yes, cloth Diapers, and I'm under 50) were the cleanest in the neighborhood.
I would like to know if someone here knows what year etc. this washer was made. I think I might get it fixed, and USE it.
Thanks a bunch. washinmomma
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Post# 30837-7/9/2003-20:15 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Pink Kenmore Wringer Washer
MESSAGE: The Sears wringers are wonderful machines. One of our clubmembers has one, and yes I have seen the pink ones, aren't they fun! Maybe Greg (the owner of that washer) or someone here might have an idea about repairs, and I'm don't know about that or if any parts would be available, or what have you. Do you know what might be wrong with it? You may already know this, but you do have to move the timer to "hold" or to a time to get it to start, they don't just start up when you plug it in like a Maytag does.
If you want to find out the year it was made, look for the model plate. It should say 110.xx, where xx would be the last two numbers of the year of manufacture. It was probably made sometime in the early 1960s. Hope you can get it running and enjoy!
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Post# 30838-7/9/2003-22:50 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Pink Kenmore Wringer Washer (wringer washers)
MESSAGE: For diapers, a wringer washer is excellent becuase you can set it to wash and wash and wash and wash and wash without having to watch over and re-set the controls on like on an automatic
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Post# 30839-7/9/2003-22:58 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Pink Kenmore Wringer Washer (wringer washers)
MESSAGE: One thing I can say about Whirlpool, rarely have I run into an obsolete part situation, even for stuff that 's pretty old. Last problem I had is that the Triple Dispenser lid for my 1978 LadyK Solid State only comes in white now (the machine is Coffee) but it least it WAS available. So I suspect you'll have no trouble getting whatever part is needed to get Pinky going, and then there's always the aftermarket part makers.
When I worked at Wards in 1972 they were still selling wringer washers and had one on the sales floor with the Signature (Norge clones) automatics
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Post# 30840-7/10/2003-00:53 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: My Ideal Washer
MESSAGE: Congratulations on the new washer. They were never sold overhere in the Netherlands. Otherwise I sure would be wanting one.
Louis
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Post# 30841-7/10/2003-03:12 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: combination washer-dryers
MESSAGE: They seem to be making a cmeback, does anyone know who was the last domestic manufacturer to make one? I heard it was 1969, at least for Kenmore/Whirlpool, but no confirmation. They were fairly popular here in L.A., where most older houses (Teen's/20's) have no basement, only a small "service porch" with room for only one machine, and even then often a laundry sink had to be removed.
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Post# 30842-7/10/2003-04:08 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: combination washer-dryers (Re: Combo's:)
MESSAGE: Hey! kenmore1978, I'm not totally sure, but I think that the Kenmore Washer/Dryer Combo's were Manufactured until about 1971 or 1972. I do remember talking to some Repairmen of around that time and their telling me that the Combo's had finally gotten pretty well prefected, being so much better operating, after their past of Frequent Repair's, besides not having a very Fast Spin, thus taking longer to Dry the Laundry and then "Go-figure" they discontinue them. I' ve not been as familiar with the Whirlpool Brand of Washer's and Dryer's, but on of my Aunt's and Uncle's owned a late 1950s Whirlpool Combo that was quite tall and had a Flat Top area, with the Timer on the Front-Left and a Water and Heat Temp Control on the
Mid-Right Side. It had a large Square Framed Door with a Large Round Window and it had the Resavoir below the Tub where the Water was Pumped into the Washer from the Lower-Left creating a Shower to the Upper-Right and the Laundry fell towards the Showering Water with a Counter Clock-Wise Tumbling. It looked like a Giant to me, being at the time that I first saw it, I was only 15-years old and that was my first experiance of ever seeing or knowing about a Combo Unit.
If you are not familiar with my Profile, I have a 1965 Lady-K Combo in Avocado Green and an approximate 1967 "MOL" Kenmore Combo in White. The 1967 Combo needs some checking out again and some medium amount of Lint removal from the Pump and Reservoir Tank and to check out the Hoses of both Units.
Other than that, I'm ont sure how long any other Brand's of Combo's were Manufactured, but I'm sure that someone in the Club no doubt might know which Brands and how long they were Manufactured.
Best Regards, Steve "SactoTeddyBear"
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Post# 30843-7/10/2003-08:15 ||| mrb627 (Atlanta GA)
SUBJECT: RE: combination washer-dryers (Sensor Dry?)
MESSAGE: Didn't the Kenmore model have Sensor Drying rather than a timed selection? Wasn't that pretty advanced technology back then?
Malcolm
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Post# 30844-7/10/2003-08:36 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (Los Angeles apartment refrigerators)
MESSAGE: I helped a friend move to LA five years ago and when we got into his apartment, I thought it would have been better if he'd brought his own refrigerator, stove and bathroom - yuk!
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Post# 30845-7/10/2003-08:39 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: combination washer-dryers
MESSAGE: I think I remember hearing once that GE was the last domestic combo, but I'm sure it was neck and neck with Whirlpool as they were still making them in the early 70's as well.
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Post# 30846-7/10/2003-08:41 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Pink Kenmore Wringer Washer (wringer washers)
MESSAGE: It's amazing sometimes what is still available from Sears, take the model number to the website or the local service center and see what comes up.
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Post# 30847-7/10/2003-08:43 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Pink Kenmore Wringer Washer
MESSAGE: Wow - a pink one! Can you tell us what does the machine do when you plug it in and turn it on? Do you hear the motor running? Does it agitate or wringer turn? Does the pump engage?
Congrats on your fun find and keep us posted on the progress.
Greg
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Post# 30848-7/10/2003-09:12 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: all arranged
MESSAGE: Hi guys, just to let you all know a date has been set for the delivery of the washer it was meant for today but a problem has occured on a seal, this will be replaced very soon. I have been reasured the washer will be here this comeing Monday morning, so wish me luck.
The vids have been arranged as well, they will be done in the next 3 weeks. Hopefully I will have them uploaded to my i s p Blueyonder, very soon. kindest regards to all HBMUK
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Post# 30849-7/10/2003-09:57 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: Visit to New York
MESSAGE: Steve118 & Rhinnie are in New York. Last night we went to PcRichards appliances in the city and had a great time checking out appliances. We saw the new LG (but no combos)
Than we had a nice chinese food dinner.
Peter
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Post# 30850-7/10/2003-10:28 ||| Activator (Tulsa, OK)
SUBJECT: Suggestions?
MESSAGE: Hello, everybody! I just updated my profile and wanted to say "hey" (we are SO articulate here in Oklahoma) and to ask if any of you have suggestions/recommendations for front-loading machines. Vic and I are using a Roper (Ripper) that is systematically destroying everything due to its apparant abuse of appliance amphetamines. I mean, that thing agitates FAST - and with rather shallow, chopping strokes. And the slow speed (which is still VERY fast) is ineffective because of the shortness of the strokes.
Remember vintage Maytags? Slow, long, smooth strokes, the hot, sudsy water steadily churning, the deep-toned vibration of the motor...but I digress.
While I would love to get a nice "center post agitator" machine, I'm not really sure they are still being made. Do ALL the new machines either have that corkscrew on the agitator, and/or are they all flapping and slapping a million miles an hour, like they're late for an appointment elsewhere? Sheeesh.
I'd love some feedback. And who has seen the Calypso (or its copies) in action? Is there video of it anywhere? Do things actually get clean?
I hope everyone has a really good day. Take care -
Mark (Activator)
liveforartman@yahoo.com
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Post# 30851-7/10/2003-11:48 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: Saved a westinghouse
MESSAGE: I saved a westinghouse slant deluxe dryer from the crusher today brought it home in the trunk of my buick LOL....pics will follow later today
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Post# 30852-7/10/2003-12:25 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: westinghouse pics so far
MESSAGE: heres the pics of it loaded in my car yet
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/oldappliancefreak/lst?&.dir=/Westinghouse&.src=ph&.view=t&start=1&.rand=710172429689
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Post# 30853-7/10/2003-13:00 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Suggestions?
MESSAGE: Fisher & Paykel has a very long agitation stroke, possibly as close as one can get to vintage nowadays. Speed Queen and Amana may also fit the bill, but I'm not intimately familiar with their current offerings.
Fisher & Paykel agitation
For a front-loader, try the new LG, a very handsome set.
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Post# 30854-7/10/2003-13:06 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: westinghouse pics so far
MESSAGE: Hey there, you've found a D-9 dryer, from 1956. I just love all my vintage westy slant-front machines.
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Post# 30855-7/10/2003-15:08 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: AEG available Stateside
MESSAGE: Anyone want this? It's in NJ...
-ph
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2334325600&category=20714
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Post# 30856-7/10/2003-15:31 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: combination washer-dryers (Moister Sensor Dry:)
MESSAGE: Hi! Malcolm, my Lady-K Combo just has an area that says "DRY" for the Dryer Cycle, so I would assume that it is Sensor Controlled, but my Thermostat Moisture Sensor, rather than the newer Electronic Moister Sensor's that most of the Dryer's have these days on the "MOL" to "TOL" Model's.
I don't recall on my newer "MOL" Combo, since it has been quite some time since I've even looked at it real close, due to being in Storage, but I would guess that it is similar to my Lady-K, having the Thermostat Moister Sensor, unless it does have Timed Drying as well.
When I am able to get my Combo's out and work on them again, I will certainly be glad to report either directly or through the Site, about my finding's unless someone else has any info to help both of us at this time.
Best Regards, Steve "SactoTeddyBear"
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Post# 30857-7/10/2003-15:48 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: combination washer-dryers (Newer Whirlpool Combo's:)
MESSAGE: Hi! Club Friend's, is it possible that someone might happen to have any newer Whirlpool Combo Photo's of like from the late 60s to final production's or close to of the 70s? I would like very much to know further when the Whirlpool Combo's production stopped and if it was at about the same time as the Kenmore's?
As I mentioned before, I'm not as familiar with Whirlpool's, since I grew up in a Kenmore house, besides Hotpoint and Frigidaire for Washer's and Dryer's, other than GE, Hotpoint and the other mentioned Brand's for Kitchen Appliances.
I did become more familiar with Whirlpool Appliances when I bought a new Tract House here in Sacramento, CA in 1986, that was supplied with a Whirlpool Stove, Dishwasher and optionally Refrigerator's Washer's and Dryer's, for those who were just starting house-keeping and didn't have the Appliances to accomodate them in their new houses.
Personally, the Model's supplied weren't worth the decision of the Contractor's, but they sufficed until I was able to replace them.
Basically now, I'm a Maytag, Kenmore and Amana preferred Customer, for new Appliances and everything bought new is bought with the Extended Contract's, because I won't work on my own newer Appliances, except for cleaning out the Lint in the Dryer's and lubricating the Drum Roller's and Belt Tension Pulley's.
Best Regards, Steve "SactoTeddyBear"
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Post# 30858-7/10/2003-17:48 ||| mrb627 (Atlanta GA)
SUBJECT: RE: combination washer-dryers (spin control)
MESSAGE: As I recall, since I touched a Lady K back in the 80's, that they had some form of a hydraulic spin system. Although I could be dreaming since it was a long time ago and my imagination tends to try to fill in gaps found in my reality.
Am I close on this one?
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Post# 30859-7/10/2003-19:00 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: westinghouse pics so far
MESSAGE: And I thought I was the only one that carries washers and dryers like that! LOL
Great job man!
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Post# 30860-7/10/2003-19:04 ||| mrb627 (Atlanta GA)
SUBJECT: Skinny-Mini?
MESSAGE: Is this a re-badged Skinny-Mini? It's hard to tell without a closeup shot of the interior, but I think it is...
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2334466296&category=42232
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Post# 30861-7/10/2003-19:13 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: combination washer-dryers (Sensor Dry?)
MESSAGE: Yes, the Lady Kenmore version of this W/D combo had auto dry. My next door neighbor had the LK version. Loved it. Also loved watching Uni's at his house, like being a child again. It also had a heater to help keep the water hot on hot wash. But a slow 250 rpm spin. No suspension of any consequence due to patents held by Bendix.
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Post# 30862-7/10/2003-19:29 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Skinny-Mini?
MESSAGE: Looks like a belt-drive Kenmore washer. Only Frigidaire had the SM with the Agitub. I'm about to go and watch one in operation saturday :-D
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Post# 30863-7/10/2003-19:57 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Visit to New York
MESSAGE: Sounds like fun guys. I would have loved to join you but this week has been tough for me to get into the city. Where did you all go for Chinese?
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Post# 30864-7/10/2003-20:05 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Skinny-Mini?
MESSAGE: This is a WCI/Electrolux machine - indexing plastic tub washer. The GM models are easy to spot as they had no water level control - time fill. It's amazing that the basic cabinet and dryer design stood the test of time for these stack units.
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Post# 30865-7/10/2003-20:06 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Skinny-Mini? (Video please...)
MESSAGE: Hopefully the weather will cooperate and you will be able to get some video of the Agitub washer - I have yet to see one in action so, pretty please with detergent on top???
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Post# 30866-7/10/2003-20:08 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Suggestions?
MESSAGE: Mark - the Amana still has the traditional long stroke agitation. However, their reliability - even though they are now owned by Maytag is not good. In fact, I had one for three years and the appliance store ended up exchanging it for me. Too bad, it had lots of great features and I really liked it. But a main tub seal leak did it in - it was decided that it was cheaper to replace than to repair. Truth is that no service people in my area of Connecticut wanted to even touch it. The Speed Queen would be more reliable and the design is similar to the Amana. I don't think they have stainless tubs anymore and they are difficult to find for home use - but not impossible.
One of the gentler "corkscrew" agitator washers is any Maytag whose model number begins with LAT (either 2600 or 3600). Definitely not as harsh as Whirlpool/Roper. But it has a smaller tub than most toploaders today and while not spartan by any means, it is not as feature rich as some other machines. But it is supposed to be based on the old Maytag dependable care construction that lasted for years and years. Not the most exciting machine made, but after the past 10 years of bad luck (2 GE's and the Amana) I will settle for some reliability. Of course when the right vintage washer comes along, that will be another story...
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Post# 30867-7/10/2003-20:08 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Suggestions?
MESSAGE: Mark - the Amana still has the traditional long stroke agitation. However, their reliability - even though they are now owned by Maytag is not good. In fact, I had one for three years and the appliance store ended up exchanging it for me. Too bad, it had lots of great features and I really liked it. But a main tub seal leak did it in - it was decided that it was cheaper to replace than to repair. Truth is that no service people in my area of Connecticut wanted to even touch it. The Speed Queen would be more reliable and the design is similar to the Amana. I don't think they have stainless tubs anymore and they are difficult to find for home use - but not impossible.
One of the gentler "corkscrew" agitator washers is any Maytag whose model number begins with LAT (either 2600 or 3600). Definitely not as harsh as Whirlpool/Roper. But it has a smaller tub than most toploaders today and while not spartan by any means, it is not as feature rich as some other machines. But it is supposed to be based on the old Maytag dependable care construction that lasted for years and years. Not the most exciting machine made, but after the past 10 years of bad luck (2 GE's and the Amana) I will settle for some reliability. Of course when the right vintage washer comes along, that will be another story...
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Post# 30868-7/10/2003-20:10 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: Duplicate Post
MESSAGE: Sorry about the duplicate non vintage post. Amazing how you could forget what you're doing as you're doing it.......
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Post# 30869-7/10/2003-20:13 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: westinghouse pics so far
MESSAGE: Congrats on the find - neat dryer. Is this the same car you strapped that Lady Kenmore combo to?
Just proves, if we want it bad enough...
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Post# 30870-7/10/2003-20:19 ||| AndrewInOrlando (Winter Park, FL)
SUBJECT: RE: Suggestions?
MESSAGE: Hiya Mark,
Regarding your question on recommendations for washers, I know Frigidaire still makes machines with center post agitators as does Amana. That's all that Amana makes. Reliability may be an issue for these two brands...check with other sources in the club on that one. I know lower line Whirlpool's still use a center post agitator, but I cannot vouch for their cleaning ability.
As for the Calypso, I have one and I love it (the Kenmore). It does a beautiful job and handles large items like my king size down comforter very well. I know lower line Whirlpool's still use a center post agitator, but I cannot vouch for their cleaning ability. In two years I haven't had any problems with it, but you absolutely MUST use HE detergents in it...no suds allowed in that machine.
Good luck in your hunt!
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Post# 30871-7/10/2003-20:27 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Visit to New York (Visit to New York)
MESSAGE: We actually were in midtown. I live in Westchester. How far up in conn are you located
Peter
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Post# 30872-7/10/2003-20:30 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Skinny-Mini? (Video please...)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg,
In some ways I do want to see a adjtub wash. But I was always disappoited the GM didn't use the pulsator method for this machine.
Peter
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Post# 30873-7/10/2003-20:39 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Skinny-Mini? (Video please...)
MESSAGE: I'm gonna shoot the whole cycle but I'll make clips of the highlights like the overflow, agitate, spin, etc.
Todd likes SUDZ so we're gonna make lots of em.
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Post# 30874-7/10/2003-20:43 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Skinny-Mini?
MESSAGE: Ya know. I have yet to even watch a WCI/Elux machine in action. I must not be missing much cause nobody likes 'em. My friend's parents have a new Frigidaire washer in the garage. It wasn't running but if it was, I would've watched.
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Post# 30875-7/10/2003-21:02 ||| coldspot66 (South of Boston, Mass)
SUBJECT: RE: Suggestions?
MESSAGE: hey all,
,Maytag has discontinued the dependable care line ( the design that they built their reputation on). They are introducing the 'legacy' series, which is a hybrid machine. It is basically an amana style washer with the atlantis 'superwash' transmission that has a shorter faster stroke than the old amana trannys.
Amana did not make a bad washer, but it was more expensive and did tend to leak through the tub seal early on.
stainless steel inner tub is nice, but doesn't make the machine last longer. My money is still on Whirlpool/Kenmore.
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Post# 30876-7/10/2003-21:47 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: westinghouse pics so far (greg)
MESSAGE: no that car was just a hair bigger plugged it in tonight works great chimes when its done lol
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Post# 30877-7/10/2003-22:54 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: lucky again this week, '49GE-DW found
MESSAGE: Last week I was fortunate enough to find a sixties GE Mobile Maid t/l DW in great shape and works fine. Well today I stopped at the recycler in MAss where I have befriended the guy who runs it and he likes the old stuff too. Finally found someone who appreciates what we do here in this club. So thanks to him I picked up a Maytag Washer A203 Serial 368607QQ, 1959-60ish??? its not top of the line and does not light up but it seems to be in such good shape that I could not let it go to the crusher, it needs a good cleaning/buffing on the cabinet, the inside tub (dark gray/almost black) is like new with a black agitator with a small narrow column, it does not have a lint filter, I don't think this machine was used much. BUT, the best was finding what I believe is a 1949 GE top-load, ROUND, portable DW, has the black bakelite impeller in the bottom intact, stainless steel removable racks, the inside is in amazingly good condition, there is some rust around the middle seem halfway down the cabinet on the outside and the bottom half could use repainting. I need to replace one of the hoses. It does not have a timer, just an on-off switch and a switch for drain/fill or wash/rinse, so you manually fill and drain this one. I am not sure how much water or how high your suppose to fill. I plugged it in and sure enough it does work BUT, the motor quits and just hums after about 30 seconds, then restarts again, and the same thing happens. There is nothing obstructing the movement of the impeller, could it be overheating ?? It did smell hot. Any suggestions ??
The model # is RA949AI6 and serial 49-711576 I was so thrilled to find this machine. I will take pics this weekend and hope to have them out here by end of next week. Have a nice weekend everyone !!
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Post# 30878-7/10/2003-23:27 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: lucky again this week, '49GE-DW found (ge Dishwasher)
MESSAGE: Greg I have the same one that you have its the on off switch its an overload switch and its bad mine does it also.... i have the directions of how to use it
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Post# 30879-7/10/2003-23:32 ||| SALVOBOY (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (Los Angeles apartment refrigerators)
MESSAGE: I agree with those of you who said you'd prefer to bring your own appliances if the resident ones are nasty but if you move a lot, it's a big hassle. Meanwhile, when I rented my apartment in Long Beach a number of years ago, I chose it over several others partly because it DID have a fridge (the only place that did). Of course I might have been swayed because it came with a giant deluxe Kenmore gas stove in mint condition as well. It was circa 1960 and had a giant dial clock, burner-with-a-brain, flourescent backlit panel, the works. What a gem. It was like nobody had ever cooked on it - until me! Downside: it belonged to the apartment! I haven't liked another stove as well since.
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Post# 30880-7/10/2003-23:35 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: combination washer-dryers (Moister Sensor Dry:)
MESSAGE: Steve,
Just curious. But what are the basic dimmensions of the Lady Kenmore Combo? I have always had a soft spot for combos, but if it's too wide 29+", I may not have room.
-Alex
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Post# 30881-7/10/2003-23:51 ||| washerlover (northern California)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire Deader Than a Doornail
MESSAGE: After Greg Nunn was so kind to send me the missing cap & lint filter for my beautiful coffee brown Frigidaire washer, it seems that the timer just went out. (model WC, serial 70EE 5606) After the initial fill, it just plain died. I can't hear anything so I'm assuming it's the timer. (thank God I have my trusty 1984 Whirlpool on standby to take over the job!)
Any ideas? I'm off to Arizona & Utah for a week but will try to check for messages. Also, any idea the approximate year of my Frigidaire washer? I also have the matching dryer.
Thanks!
Todd
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Post# 30882-7/11/2003-01:20 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Deader Than a Doornail (Re: Frigidaire Break-Down:)
MESSAGE: Hey! Todd, did you happen to check all of the Wiring, before operating it originally, from when you first got the "Twin's" home? Maybe you might just have some wires that have come loose. Does it do anything, besides Filling, like Drain or Spin? Maybe it is also possibly something else, like the Water Level Switch or the Water Pressure Switch Tubing, having some kind of blockage?
BTW, my "1-18" is a 1976 {+ -} Model, because it is a Model Number WC-6, with the Window in the Lid.
Good Luck with getting it operating again, after you return from your Trip. Let uns know waht you find out what happened to it. Do you have a Manual for the "1-18" Washer Model's? I have one, if you would like me to look up possible causes and how to Repair the problem.
Best Regards, Steve
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Post# 30883-7/11/2003-04:52 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: 1965 and 1967 Sears Catalog:
MESSAGE: Would anyone happen to have a 1965 and 1967 Sears F/W or S/S Catalog, that shows the Kenmore Washer/Dryer Combination's? I would like very much to be bale to get the Spec's, including the Cabinet Size and the Weight of the Unit's, besides teh feature's. I would really appreciate any and all help, especially if someone has a Scanner to be able to Scan the Page they are listed on, with the Spec's and send them to me directly "via" my E-Mail Address of:
SactoTeddyBear@aol.com
Thank you very much, it would be gratefully appreciated and helping me to know more about the Unit's that I own, without Manual's.
Best Regards, Steve "SactoTeddyBear"
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Post# 30884-7/11/2003-05:43 ||| shawn (Waterford Ct)
SUBJECT: RE: 1965 and 1967 Sears Catalog: (Sears Catalog)
MESSAGE: I have a F/W 1970 Catalog with a combo washer dryer if that is any help?
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Post# 30885-7/11/2003-10:17 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: OWNERS MANUAL FOR YOUR NEW WASHER-DRYER 1965
MESSAGE: I've got the owners manual for that machine. I've also got the parts list, the reference chart, and the home service guide, but I do not see the installation sheet, which would have the dimensions & weight, etc. Seems to me, these are full 30" machines, or at least require the 30" opening because they require at least 1/2 inch free space on either side in order to balance & spin properly..if I locate the installation instructions, I'll let you know...
I have the machine down at my Mom's yet in St. Mary's county, mainly because it's too heavy to get down my basement steps easily, but I just may bring it here to Arlington anyway, in pieces, as I have before been known to do...
This IS another one of those machines I know pretty darned well, having owned & serviced them now for some 20 years...
Yes..the transmission uses an air compresser to engage the spin clutch...and the unit also uses water to balance the spinning cylinder by squirting it quickly into the tub opposite the out of balance condition....it's no wonder these machines are rare & hard to find in working condition today...
B
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/COMBO/INDEX.htm
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Post# 30886-7/11/2003-10:58 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: OWNERS MANUAL FOR YOUR NEW WASHER-DRYER 1965 (Groovy Pictures Bob!)
MESSAGE: Bob,
Those are great pictures.
I love the set up that you had with your LK Combo, and your LK W/D set.
Do you have your manual scanned of your combo?
I would love to see it.
That would make a great manual of the month.
Thanks for the pictures.
You have not changed all that much.
Brent
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Post# 30887-7/11/2003-11:03 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: lucky again this week, '49GE-DW found
MESSAGE: Greg,
You are finding some great stuff! You have some great people looking out for you.
Can't wait to see the pictures.
Brent
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Post# 30888-7/11/2003-11:07 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: The washer Gods approve of Saturday wash in
MESSAGE: Amid the fury of Tropical Storm Claudette and the weak front coming through, the forecast calls for 85deg, partly cloudy, and 20% chance of rain (that's GREAT for new orleans).
It's gonna be perfect for some outdoor washing (220v plug outside for the Skinny Mini)
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Post# 30889-7/11/2003-11:09 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: I found it!
MESSAGE: Well someone in the N-hood decided to throw away another TOL GE spotscrubber machine, the same one I Have in my basement and y'all know I have to have some of the content of this machine!
It was the mini basket and filter!
This weekend if I'm not doing anything, I may put in the tranny in that I have and I'm wait for the the Activator that I brought on e-Bay to complete the system to crank her up tO see if she works!! I will let everyone know A.S.A.P.
Oh what joy it is to ride in a GE mini basket!
Wish me luck the coming days!
Larry
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/lr9711/vwp?.dir=/My+new+collection&.src=ph&.dnm=GE+Mini++basket.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/lr9711/lst%3f%26.dir=/My%2bnew%2bcollection%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 30890-7/11/2003-12:11 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: I found it! (YAY!)
MESSAGE: So cool to find all the parts to a washer. Have fun!
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Post# 30891-7/11/2003-14:58 ||| Manor_Avenue (Fresno, CA)
SUBJECT: 1957 G.E. Filter-Flo
MESSAGE: I'd pay a finder's fee to anyone who can steer me towards a 1957 G.E. Filter-Flo washer. Thanks.
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Post# 30892-7/11/2003-14:59 ||| Manor_Avenue (Fresno, CA)
SUBJECT: 1957 G.E. Filter-Flo
MESSAGE: I'd pay a finder's fee to anyone who can steer me towards a 1957 G.E. Filter-Flo washer. Thanks.
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Post# 30893-7/11/2003-15:02 ||| Manor_Avenue (Fresno, CA)
SUBJECT: WANTED: 1957 G.E. Filter-Flo
MESSAGE: I'd pay a finder's fee to anyone who can steer me towards a 1957 G.E. Filter-Flo washer. Thanks.
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Post# 30894-7/11/2003-16:44 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1965 and 1967 Sears Catalog: (Sears Catalog:)
MESSAGE: Hey! Shawn, I would really appreciate your offer. Would you mind sending it to my E-Mail Address if you have Scanning capability? If not, please let me know and I will send you my Postal Address in an E-Mail, if you wouldn't mind making a Copy and sending it to me. I would gladly pay you back for the copy{s} and Postage as well.
Regards, Steve "SactoTeddyBear@aol.com"
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Post# 30895-7/11/2003-18:26 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: My Ideal Washer (new info )
MESSAGE: Hi Guys, to day I found out that on Monday 15th of July at 12.30 pm I will get my new baby. It seems while the engineer at the shop was doing a final test, a bellows type seal directly thru the center post underneath the tub had perished and cracked. He has replaced the seal and all is working ok now. (PHEW) I asked him how much water the tub holds on a full load, 10 gallons was his answer. Since I had already owned a Hotpoint Liberator deluxe, the model I will be getting has got some major advantages. One being the spin speed on final spin, has been upped from 1040 to an amazing 1050 revs. What the liberator didnt have was an economy wash cycle, this one does so this is good news to me. The hot water can be piped directly into the tub, from the kitchen faucit/tap half way up the tub, and filled up with a cold fill after setting the quick wash or ecnomy wash on the dial, and turning in on to finish the fill up. I have been told by the engineer to not to use the main wash cyles to much, because with that much water, the machine will consume a helluva lot of electricty.
all my regards guys I will keep you posted HBMUK
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Post# 30896-7/11/2003-18:51 ||| Rozbenitez (santa ana, california)
SUBJECT: general electric 50's dishwasher & frigidaire flair stove combo
MESSAGE: i have a 50's GE pop up that worked for about 12 yrs after i bought this house, however, about 6yrs it wouldn't go through any of the cycles in sequence, i'd like to get it working agin but i can't seem tofind anyone in orange county to fix it. maybe i haven't called the right people. secondly, i have a flair stove that has one burner that won't heat and the sensors in the back don't work so i can't ever close the heating drawer
any suggestions??
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Post# 30897-7/11/2003-20:15 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: general electric 50's dishwasher & frigidaire flair stove combo (Roz)
MESSAGE: maybe the GE needs a new timer ?? Midwest Timer 1-800-253-7260
not sure what to tell you RE: stove, good luck !!
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Post# 30898-7/11/2003-21:23 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: 1956 D-9 pics
MESSAGE: Here are the pics of the westinghouse D-9 dryer all lighted up and stuff
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/oldappliancefreak/lst?.dir=/Westinghouse&.view=t
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Post# 30899-7/11/2003-22:00 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1956 D-9 pics
MESSAGE: Very nice pictures! Your pets are cute too!
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Post# 30900-7/11/2003-22:02 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: 1956 D-9 pics
MESSAGE: THX!!
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Post# 30901-7/11/2003-22:03 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: OWNERS MANUAL FOR YOUR NEW WASHER-DRYER 1965 (owners manual)
MESSAGE: Bob could you scan a copy of that lady Kenmore combo manual and email it to me Pretty Please :) !!!
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Post# 30902-7/11/2003-22:27 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: lucky again this week, '49GE-DW found (Got Space?)
MESSAGE: There just aren't words for your dilligence, hard work and just a little bit of luck.... Congrats Greg, you have a very impressive collection.
Maytag facts from the 1965 service update/model introduction, the A203 Highlander has a pressure fill w/three levels rather than timed fill in the prior years of this series. I saw a similar vintage machine behind Lowe's recently but it had been pushed out of the truck onto it's head and was a total goner.
I've seen many of these machines here in Maytag country, my grandmother had a similar model but earlier. A very rugged performer.
Your GE dishwasher sounds like fun to play with and probably wouldn't be a bad performer with modern detergent and the long washing times you could have!
Have fun!
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Post# 30903-7/11/2003-22:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: OWNERS MANUAL FOR YOUR NEW WASHER-DRYER 1965
MESSAGE: Great pics bob - the Kenmores were beautiful!
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Post# 30904-7/11/2003-22:32 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1956 D-9 pics
MESSAGE: Wonderful machine - looks like it's in very nice shape too.
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Post# 30905-7/12/2003-02:11 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: Re: Maytag Combo's:
MESSAGE: Hey! Club Friend's, I just had a Photo of a Maytag Combo send to me from a Friend and it has made me think and wonder if anyone knows what year{s} did Maytag manufacture them? Any reports as to how they did Mechanically and as far as Cleaning Laundry?
I would love to find one to add to my Collection, along with my Lady-K, my "MOL" Kenmore Combo's and I would also like very much to locate a Late-50s to Early/Mid-60s Philco Combo, besides a Late-60s to Early-70s Matched Philco Washer and Dryer, with the Ex-Large Lid on the Washer and the Blue Tub and Agitator Interior. I don't remember for sure, but didn 't the "TOL" Models of Philco Dryer's have a Window on the Doors, similar to the Combo's?
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Post# 30906-7/12/2003-03:16 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities)
SUBJECT: RE: I found it! (Welcome to the Filter-Flo club!)
MESSAGE: You, Cleanteam, are in for a real treat. Yes sir, the mini basket is definitely a fun drive... Take it for a spin!
Just to fill you in a bit:
1) The washing machine barely fills in its initial cycle. So, the water level is just at the bottom of the fins. The excitement builds!
2) There is a gasket under the top of the washer, that seals the top of the inner tub from the inner components of the machine. again, the excitement builds!
3) You select your cycle, drop the key in the "ignition". PUSH THA BUTTON!
4) You add your detergent. Anticipation builds as the machine fills the lower portion of the agitator. But no water goes in the basket.. It goes directly around the sides of the basket, building a little foam around the agitator base.... "this is gonna be interesting"
5) CHUCKA CHUCKA CHUKHA CHUCKA! And the race is on.. Grab a towel and a mop if you put in a bit too much detergent, don't worry about the machine because it's got that nice rubber gasket.....
6) Ah, tha foam. Just like sudz on a beer mug. Don't eat it, though. As the machine builds more suds tirelessly, you grab your mop and start wiping around the laundry area to beat hell. You think to your self "man, I might as well take a BATH, there's so much sudz!"
7) The machine finishes its wash cycle, and you wisely chose to add a second rinse to the cycle. You mop up the sudz, you rinse the floor. As you wipe the outside of your "self cleaning GE", it sudz locks for a few secs, but with the two spray rinses it's up to speed with no probs....
8) You take out your knit Georgetown sweaters, stuff 'em in the dryer. Then, give 'em to your grand kids 'cause they shrunk down to "kids size"... heh heh heh
THAT, my friend... is one FUN washing machine!
MrCoffee
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Post# 30907-7/12/2003-03:29 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities)
SUBJECT: RE: That's more like it (Spin Test)
MESSAGE: I'm in Lakeville, Minnesota. Would there be any way for me to come in and see some of these machines in action? Your response is appreciated. My email is in the listings, thanks.
MrCoffee
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Post# 30908-7/12/2003-03:48 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities)
SUBJECT: RE: You wont believe this but... (Los Angeles apartment refrigerators)
MESSAGE: I, for one, always felt exploited when ever I moved into an apartment with filthy appliances that would not work most of the time. Landlords charge an excessive amount of rent to vulnerable individuals without even batting an eye. They will favor their junk appliances over a tennant's new/properly working appliances in almost every case.
My sentiments are, that only the state should be allowed to rent a place to people. There is no benevolence when a private property owner is out to make money and cause undo hardship to those who are not able to purchase their own home or place to live.
Some land owners may think I'm harsh and abrasive. I don't care what anybody's opinion is, I make no appologies for my beliefs.
MrCoffee
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Post# 30909-7/12/2003-04:42 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Suggestions?
MESSAGE: Amana once made very reliable machines under the Raytheon ownership. However, reliability became a problem after the sale to Goodman Industries. In fact they rank at the bottom of the reliability list in the last Consumer Reports issue. The leaking tub seal was only the tip of the iceberg. Wait times for parts was ridiculous and there was a pitiful lack of service people who had ever even seen an Amana washer before. All in all not a pretty picture - and I live in Southern CT - part of the NY metro area!
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Post# 30910-7/12/2003-06:34 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: POD 7 - 12 - 03
MESSAGE: Happy weekend everyone!
What is the brand of the lid-less washer in the POD? I can't make it out.
I think that this question has come up before with this picture, but either it was not answered, or I missed the answer.
Brent
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Post# 30911-7/12/2003-06:57 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1956 D-9 pics
MESSAGE: I love your CAT collection! :-D My cat Wizard is the meanest thing on the planet. Looks like yours are much friendlier.
Does that dog have two different color eyes or is that just the flash reflection? My next door neighbor has a dog with one eye is green, the other is blue.
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Post# 30912-7/12/2003-07:52 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: lucky again this week, '49GE-DW found (Got Space?thanks Greg)
MESSAGE: Hey Greg, Thanks for the date info on the Maytag and your sentiments. I will get the exact model # and serial off the mobile maid today so you can hopefully tell me what year that is. Hope all is well and have a great weekend :)
-gregm
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Post# 30913-7/12/2003-07:59 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Coming soon: Land Of The Rust III
MESSAGE: Coming to a Windows Media Player near you:
Land of The Rust III: The Coming of the LG's.
Our daring adventurer Roto Baggins is once again lured to Todd The Wizard's house for more washer action featuring a 1-18, a rapidry, an Agitub and also the new LG's. Will Roto because hypnotised by the rotating tub of the Skinny Mini or will he be able to his long lost Kenmore 800?
The 3rd New Orleans Wash-in is about to commence.
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Post# 30914-7/12/2003-08:11 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Coming soon: Land Of The Rust III
MESSAGE: You make it sound so formal; I feel like I need to wear pearls.
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Post# 30915-7/12/2003-08:29 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Coming soon: Land Of The Rust III (not-so-formal)
MESSAGE: OK, let's say it like a Cajun (because I am one)
WE'SE ABOUT TO PASS A GOOD TIME, CHERE! Aeeeeeeee!
(translation for you northerners: "We're going to have fun")
Now you can wear blue jeans.
:-D
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Post# 30916-7/12/2003-09:04 ||| Activator (Tulsa, OK)
SUBJECT: My Life Will Never Be The Same
MESSAGE: This is long. Get coffee, or some juice.
Well, I've done it. I've set the dials and closed the lid. I've selected a new cycle for my life. I have bid a sorrowful farewell to The Center Post Agitator (dramatic back-of-the-hand-against-the-forehead here).
Actually, I'm pretty excited about it, except for the price tag and the payments that will have to be made, of course...
Vic and I were in one of those really loud, chaotic, massive acreages of stuff - the dreaded computers and so on store. They didn't have what we came in for, so I said "Let's look at washers!" - a sentence that has crossed my lips for thirty-seven years now, without variation.
After I looked into almost every washer there, including the new Roper/Ripper machines and the Corkscrews-R-Us types, we got serious about front-loaders. They had the Frigidaire (I have a crockpot that's bigger), the Maytag Neptune (which only the God of the Sea could afford, and NO WINDOW!!), the Whirlpool Duet (which makes me think of two elderly ladies dressed alike and playing the piano for Saturday Bingo), and the LG, which I had recently seen in Ms. Stewart's magazine.
I had shied away from it because of its expensiveness, but it came to $200 or so less for the pair than the Duet. So I wistfully turned from the tacky, vintage-esque sky-blue plastic-backed console of the Whirlpools, and looked LG in the eye.
To cut a long story short (and boy, is it EVER too late!!) Victor and I signed up for store credit to get some idiotic little perk (18 months same as cash), and bought a BEAUTIFUL brand new LG front-loading washer with matching dryer!
(Game show music here)
They're delivering/installing on Wednesday and I'm so excited I could just...never mind. I'm worse than Hyacinth Bucket.
Anyhow, Wednesday at 10:00 AM CDT, everyone should have cake and coffee and little mints. It's a party...
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Post# 30917-7/12/2003-09:08 ||| Activator (Tulsa, OK)
SUBJECT: By the way
MESSAGE: By the way - that 1st post wasn't long enough? Oy! - thanks to all who replied here and in email. The advice and insight is a terrific "fringe benefit" of a wonderful group of friends... take care, y'all...
Mark
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Post# 30918-7/12/2003-09:24 ||| Activator (Tulsa, OK)
SUBJECT: Last but not least
MESSAGE: I just joined the Sandbox, which is where all of the above (below?) belongs. Oh, well. If I'd learned to read the directions, it wouldn't have taken me nine years to get my degree...
:) M.
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Post# 30919-7/12/2003-09:59 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Maytag Combo's:
MESSAGE: Maytag combinations were only made for a few years in the early 60's. They were terribly complicated machines and frought with trouble. Maytag had a "buy back" program (as did Westinghouse for their combos) where you traded your combo back to the factory for a new top of the line washer and dryer. Good luck in your search, Maytag combos are one of the holy grails of Applianceville!
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Post# 30920-7/12/2003-09:59 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Coming soon: Land Of The Rust III
MESSAGE: THAT we neen a picture of!!
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Post# 30921-7/12/2003-10:01 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 7 - 12 - 03
MESSAGE: Hi Brent - this pod is a Whirlpool Imperial, just like the POD with a little boy ready to put his jeans in the washer full of water...
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Post# 30922-7/12/2003-14:09 ||| jpnearl (Upstate N.Y.)
SUBJECT: mid 1960s Westinghouse TL washer and dryer
MESSAGE: Hello everyone --
I'm new to collecting Classic appliances, more specifically washers
and dryers. Right now, I'm interested in collecting a washer and
dryer pair like the ones my folks had when I was little... a
Westinghouse "heavy duty" washer and dryer that was about the same
age as me (I was born in '68).
I don't know the model numbers, and unfortunately both machines are
long gone after almost 18 years of service. Here's what I remember
about them:
1. The washing machine must have been a lower end model. There
were two cycles - on the right side of the timer dial you
could "hot" or "warm" wash, followed by a warm rinse. On the left
side of the dial, you have "warm" or "cold" wash, followed by "cool
down" and a cold rinse. I want to think that there was only one
speed. I remember that it employed "Lock 'n Spin" and the lid would
buzz if you tried to lift it when the washer was spinning. To open
the lid during a spin, you had to turn the knob to off or to one of
the wash cycles.
2. The dryer did not have a start button. You turned the timer and
it started. I seem to remember "More Dry" as a setting and timed
settings as well.
I know these are full blown Westys (instead of White-Westinghouse
made).
Does anyone have a picture of the control panel or any literature of
these machines? Are they common or pretty rare?
J.P.
ps. After I locate the pair of Westys I'm looking for - I'm going to get a pair of early to mid 1960s GE Filter-Flo washer and dryer. If DP doesn't pitch too big of a fit.
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Post# 30923-7/12/2003-15:15 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: getting very excited
MESSAGE: Hi Guys I am getting very excited, 2 days before my new baby arrives best wishes to all HBMUK
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Post# 30924-7/12/2003-17:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: mid 1960s Westinghouse TL washer and dryer
MESSAGE: Hi and welcome - is the washer you remember similar to the photo I have linked here? This is a 1968 washer I found in Iowa this past June. It's more of a mid-line model with more temp selections and speeds than you mentioned, but the syling might be similar.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/June+2003&.src=ph&.dnm=Westinghouse+washer.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/June%2b2003%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 30925-7/12/2003-20:29 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: 1956 D-9 pics (jasonl)
MESSAGE: just a flash reflection
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Post# 30926-7/12/2003-20:31 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Coming soon: Land Of The Rust III (WHAT A DAY!)
MESSAGE: Oh wow, this was almost as fun as a convention! The Frigibears and the Agicub played and played with machines. Washer after washer, we hauled in, hooked up and washed.
First up was the 1-18: I threw in my colored clothes with a cup (and a few more spilled drops) of Tide with Bleach. Washer ran fine even with my oversudsing. 1-18s don't turnover like the...
1965 Rapidry: We brought ol' Bessie out, cleaned her up, threw in my sheets and the whites and let 'er rip. Now THIS is a FRIGIDAIRE! Solid tub, overflow wash and rinse, and Rapidry. The Spirit of Classic Appliances lives in this machine. Again, I oversudsed but this machine laughed at my feeble attempt to make her choke and she got rid of all those suds.
In the new shed that will be the workshop, I met a 66 Frigidaire Deluxe machine. This machine has a bad clutch but it may wind up here at Trailer Park Laundry Studio. Stay tuned!
After the PIZZA, we rolled out the Skinny Mini. We had to do a little... ahem... creative engineering to make this work. This ran on 220v so we put this on a wooden pallet by the window to the laundry room to run the hoses and the power cord. Arthur and I had to hold it down while it spun so it wouldn't jump off the pallet. I LIKE THIS MACHINE! I like the sound it makes, the low hum with the thump=thump-thump-thump. Very rhythmic and soothing. Overflow rinse works well and spin is ok. Took long to dry though.
The next washer... well, we'll have to go to the sandbox for that one.
LINK: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Applianceville-Sandbox/
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Post# 30927-7/12/2003-20:32 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Coming soon: Land Of The Rust III (WHAT A DAY!)
MESSAGE: Oh wow, this was almost as fun as a convention! The Frigibears and the Agicub played and played with machines. Washer after washer, we hauled in, hooked up and washed.
First up was the 1-18: I threw in my colored clothes with a cup (and a few more spilled drops) of Tide with Bleach. Washer ran fine even with my oversudsing. 1-18s don't turnover like the...
1965 Rapidry: We brought ol' Bessie out, cleaned her up, threw in my sheets and the whites and let 'er rip. Now THIS is a FRIGIDAIRE! Solid tub, overflow wash and rinse, and Rapidry. The Spirit of Classic Appliances lives in this machine. Again, I oversudsed but this machine laughed at my feeble attempt to make her choke and she got rid of all those suds.
In the new shed that will be the workshop, I met a 66 Frigidaire Deluxe machine. This machine has a bad clutch but it may wind up here at Trailer Park Laundry Studio. Stay tuned!
After the PIZZA, we rolled out the Skinny Mini. We had to do a little... ahem... creative engineering to make this work. This ran on 220v so we put this on a wooden pallet by the window to the laundry room to run the hoses and the power cord. Arthur and I had to hold it down while it spun so it wouldn't jump off the pallet. I LIKE THIS MACHINE! I like the sound it makes, the low hum with the thump=thump-thump-thump. Very rhythmic and soothing. Overflow rinse works well and spin is ok. Took long to dry though.
The next washer... well, we'll have to go to the sandbox for that one.
LINK: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Applianceville-Sandbox/
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Post# 30928-7/12/2003-21:43 ||| alr2903 (new orleans)
SUBJECT: RE: Coming soon: Land Of The Rust III (WHAT A DAY!)
MESSAGE: .....and what a great day it was Jasonl, I just don't know what else Tcox could of done to entertain us more, and thats saying quite a bit here in Naw'lins in the good ole hot summertime. Todd entertained us with Frigidaires from the 60's and 70's. Then a truck pulled up and some new HIGH DOLLAR toys appeared. (some of the letters in the brand name of the shiney new set were LG) of course thats only if my memory is correct. I think Jasonl will address this in the the sandbox. Again Todd, Jason Thanks for a GREAT SATURDAY. Jason THANKYOU for the DVD. and it was nice to speak with Bob on the phone.
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Post# 30929-7/12/2003-21:53 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Coming soon: Land Of The Rust III (WHAT A DAY!)
MESSAGE: You're quite welcome. I've just finished putting up the clothes and the towels. It's amazing how the SMELL takes you back to the washin. At last year's convention, it's the smell of WiskHE and Downy Enhancer. This time, it's the smell of Tide with Bleach and GainHE.
We got to watch a RARE machine in action. Videos coming....
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Post# 30930-7/12/2003-22:02 ||| jpnearl (Upstate N.Y.)
SUBJECT: RE: mid 1960s Westinghouse TL washer and dryer
MESSAGE: Yep - that's very similar to what I'm looking for. The agitator and lint filter are identical - ours didn't have a bleach dispenser on it. Nor the weigh to save lid.
Now that I think back, the washer you have is identical to the one my aunt had... my dad used to sell Westinghouse appliances at his hardware store back then - that's probably why we had one to begin with. :) BTW, he sells Hotpoint now.
I could always tell when our washer wasn't spinning properly, the transmission wouldn't shift to the higher gear and the motor would make an odd noise. My DP's father has a Hotpoint that has the same problem. Every time I hear their washer spin it doesn't get to the faster spin speed and their clothes come out wetter than they should. They don't believe me. :)
J.P.
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Post# 30931-7/12/2003-22:05 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Coming soon: Land Of The Rust III (PICS)
MESSAGE: Here's the pics.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/kenmore800/lst?.dir=/pictures/Land+Of+The+Rust+3&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/
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Post# 30932-7/12/2003-22:37 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Coming soon: Land Of The Rust III (PICS)
MESSAGE: Thanks for those great pictures Jason! So glad everyone had fun!
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Post# 30933-7/12/2003-22:39 ||| DADoES (Suthern)
SUBJECT: RE: Coming soon: Land Of The Rust III (PICS)
MESSAGE: Wow! Fun!! I've never seen a SkinnyMini run.
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Post# 30934-7/12/2003-22:47 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Coming soon: Land Of The Rust III (PICS)
MESSAGE: Real great pics Jason
I would love to see the LG at work
Peter
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Post# 30935-7/13/2003-01:32 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Coming soon: Land Of The Rust III (WHAT A DAY!)
MESSAGE: It was very nice to get to hear more Frigidaires on the phone. Hmm, I always managed to call during an overflow rinse. It was nice to get to hear my first Skinny Mini too, sounded great. And last but not least, it was nice to get to meet a new member, Arthur!!! Glad you could make it. IT WAS ABOUT TIME DUDE!!!
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Post# 30936-7/13/2003-03:07 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Coming soon: Land Of The Rust III (PICS)
MESSAGE: Thank you Jason for the pictures, a wash-in is always fun.
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Post# 30937-7/13/2003-07:12 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: My baby
MESSAGE: My baby will be here in les than 24 hours time, new link for pics has been done. The site will be ready in a bout 3 weeks time best wish to all hbmuk
LINK: http://www.kevinkunsworth.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Hotpoint.html
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Post# 30938-7/13/2003-09:20 ||| christfr (st louis mo)
SUBJECT: RE: Coming soon: Land Of The Rust III (PICS)
MESSAGE: hey guys is that the 1966 firgidaire from st louis that todd bought a few months back?? if so she really looks happy was wondering how she was doing glad to see she is happy all the best chris
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Post# 30939-7/13/2003-10:38 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Coming soon: Land Of The Rust III (yes)
MESSAGE: That's the one. The panel looks like a commercial machine. Is it a BOL or near that? It's still a Frigidaire and it does everything except Rapidry.
This will be a repair project for me and Todd. The clutch is bad and we're gonna fix it.
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Post# 30940-7/13/2003-16:08 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Wash-in
MESSAGE: Thanks so much to Jason and Arthur for a very entertaining and fun day. We jammed alot into that few hours!!! Bob, as always, thanks for being our "special telephone guest". The pulsating just wouldn't have been the same without you. I love the new machines and will address that in Le Sandbox. Gansky, since it wasn't that formal after all, I skipped the pearls! Thanks again, guys, for a great time. Now, its off to the hospital to entertain my other half. ... Todd
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Post# 30941-7/13/2003-20:54 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: maytag timer for sale 1954
MESSAGE: old maytag timer for sale dated 1954 of ebay
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2334967027&category=20714
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Post# 30942-7/13/2003-23:06 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Wash-in
MESSAGE: Todd, I spoke to Bob on the phone yesterday too and was sorry to hear your partner is in hospital. I wish him a speedy recovery. Scott
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Post# 30943-7/14/2003-00:53 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Wash-in
MESSAGE: Scott, thanks for your concern. Gary is doing better and will hopefully come home by Wednesday; but its amazing at what a spider bite can do!
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Post# 30944-7/14/2003-03:07 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Wash-in
MESSAGE: Oh my! I hope the recovery goes well. My grandmother was bitten by a Black Widow in her shoe many years ago, and had trouble with it for a long time after.
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Post# 30945-7/14/2003-08:32 ||| Activator (Tulsa, OK)
SUBJECT: Detergent Fragrance Question
MESSAGE: I've been "nosing around" for a detergent with a certain type of fragrance. I seem to remember seeing something about it in this forum someplace, but can't remember enough to do an intelligent search.
I'm looking for suggestions of modern detergent brands that come a little closer to the fragrances of "vintage" detergents. I remember one that's somewhat floral, between iris and carnation...seems like it was either Rinso Blue or maybe even Dreft. AND...did Ivory Snow used to be actual soap?
Vic and I were at Dollar General looking for a plastic bin to keep the puppies in (it's been a really busy summer) and looking at detergents...the fragrances of the new ones, especially the liquids, have the personality of a door hinge.
The whole time I was singing softly: "(crunch!) There'll be a change in your laundry, that is very clear....(doodle-doodle-doo!)...Because there's been a great new CHANGE IN CHEER..."
But even the Cheer smelled like generic dishwashing liquid.
Any fragrance freaks out there with opinions/ideas for me re: a detergent with "that smell"? I really need something to go along with my original "April Fresh" Downy, which seems fairly unchanged.
Thanks!
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Post# 30946-7/14/2003-09:48 ||| Janard (LOS ANGLES)
SUBJECT: KENMORE WASHER WHAT YEAR
MESSAGE: CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHAT YEAR THIS WASHING MACHINE IS HERE THE MODEL NUMBER 13573240 SEARS KENMORE
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Post# 30947-7/14/2003-10:27 ||| Manor_Avenue (Fresno, CA)
SUBJECT: 1957 G.E. Filter-Flo
MESSAGE: If anyone has a 1957 G.E. Filter-Flo model (coral/salmon orange timer dial and levers) they would consider selling, or if they know of a location in their area where one might be available, please e-mail me at ghewett@daklaw.com. Thanks very much.
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Post# 30948-7/14/2003-10:51 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: My Washer has arrived
MESSAGE: Hi guys my Hotpoint top loader deluxe 1050 is here, its plumbed in and its going right now. Oh boy I can now get my laundry done, I have been told by the engineer to always use the 40 degree low temp wash, as stated in my previous message. Ecomomy is the key, the washer fills up and fires up for a minute or so to distribute the powder. Then its stops and and heats to the desired water tempreture for the clothes. Then it neutral drains no spin spray, then followed by a deep agitated rinse for 2 mins. Hotpoint stops neutral drians till empty, followed by a very short spin. Hotpoint then fills up and does one more deep agitated rinse followed by a final neutral drain and a main hi speed spin. On the hi temp washes a minimum of 4 deep rinses and a final spin, is what happens. on the low tempreture washes a minimum of 2 deep rinses and a final spin is what happens there. The door has a auto safty mechanism, so I can not see the main spin in action. But I am sure I can over come this ;-)
The conclusion:- Un like my front loader my clothes are fresher and sweet smelling and take less time to dry, the pics of the machine in action will be up loaded in the next 3 weeks. I know for a fact that some of you have been looking at the web site now, but no pics are there right now.
So my friends I have had fun doing my own wash in (LOL LOL)
I will keep you posted when the pics are there on the site, Best regards to one and all HBMUK
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Post# 30949-7/14/2003-11:07 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: My Washer has arrived (I forgot to tell you )
MESSAGE: DUHHHHHHHHH I FOR GOT TO TELL YOU, The wash cycle washes in phases if the heater on the machine is used, it washes for say 2 mins then stops for 10 mins untill the washer reaches its tempreture then the machine washes for the remaining time about 7 to 10 mins hbmuk
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Post# 30950-7/14/2003-11:22 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Wash-in
MESSAGE: We were just talking about those when I was in Arizona last week. They were telling me how you always check your bed and clothes and always shake out your shoes and stuff before you put them on. Wow, the things a person never thinks of if you're not used to needing to!
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Post# 30951-7/14/2003-15:20 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: Wash-in (Get well soon )
MESSAGE: I do hope Gary gets well soon, my kindest regards to you both. One day I do hope to meet you all at a possible washer convention. Wishing you both well hbmuk
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Post# 30952-7/14/2003-16:11 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: My Washer has arrived
MESSAGE: Kevin, congratuations on your new baby.
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Post# 30953-7/14/2003-16:23 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Detergent Fragrance Question
MESSAGE: Well, here we go. Sadly, I cannot think of any modern detergents that approximate the scent of the great vintage products. My personal fave was always Blue Cheer followed closely by Fab (before the "lemon fresh borax" crap)or Ajax. I seem to remember that Rinso Blue had a vaguely sweet/floral odor - can't say if it was carnation/iris or whatever.
As for today, the closest fragrances I found to vintage products in today's products would be either the Spring Burst Surf (powder only) or perhaps Bold Plus powder. Surf cleans pretty well and it is a high suds product. Bold smells slightly like the older Bold. But it is difficult to find and is not one of P&G's premier brands. It seems to clean well and no longer has fabric softener in it.
I remember also that Dreft was floral, but more rosy floral and yes, Ivory Snow was indeed a soap, not a detergent. It was only in the past 9 years or so that it became a detergent.
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Post# 30954-7/14/2003-17:21 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: Detergent Fragrance Question (Bold )
MESSAGE: In the UK, we have detergents like Bold with built in fabric conditioner. But I can not seem to get away with the way it makes my clothes feel, yes it does make them smell very floral and bright looking. Ironing is a breeze too after using bold with fabric softener. If your missing it that much I am quiet prepared to send you a box over from the UK, if you pay for the postage and packing.
Leading brands in the UK tend to be Ariel, Persil, and Daz.
Ariel and Persil have a very clean, very fresh smell after using those washday products. Daz can be very harsh on sensitive skin, its very powerfull and cleans very good.
Daz tends to have to much oxgen based bleaching agents, and the clothes should be rinsed very thoughrly.
The best fabric softners in the UK are comfort and lenor, the different ranges of fabric softeners are vast ranging from hypoalergenic to very flowery sweet smelling ones. I use Lenor with a ingreediant called febreeze technology, ( frebreeze is a multipurpose room conditioning spray) It does what it says on the bottle, and keeps clothes fresh all day.
In the UK we used to have washday products like Tide, OMO, and Oxcydol, we dont see them here no more. hbmuk
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Post# 30955-7/14/2003-19:24 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Detergent Fragrance Question (Bold )
MESSAGE: Thanks for the offer, but I am not needing any Bold. While it is difficult to find, there are one or two supermarkets here in my area that do carry it. It just happens that it has not been a very popular brand here for years, and it is only available as a powder. Since most of the shelf space here is devoted to liquids, many stores just don't bother to carry it. I don't know if the liquid situation is the same in the UK. But I am surprised that Tide is no longer available there. I thought that P&G made sure that Tide was available everywhere - for heaven's sake it is even sold in Russia.....
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Post# 30956-7/14/2003-19:30 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Wash-in (Get well soon )
MESSAGE: Just talked with Todd, Gary MAY get to come home tomorrow!!!
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Post# 30957-7/14/2003-20:04 ||| imperial70 (Mass)
SUBJECT: RE: mid 1960s Westinghouse TL washer and dryer
MESSAGE: Hi,
I too remember the 1968 Westinghouse with the Lock N' Spin Lid that Buzzed when you tried to lift it. Except ours was a 1968 Ambassador (by Jordan Marsh, a now defunct department store chain on the East coast owned by Allied Stores). It was a westinghouse (I saw all the westinghouse stamps on power cords, hoses, etc). The was tub would turn in one direction constantly during the wash. They had a different lint filter, more like the GE filter flo. Badge on the front was "Power Plus 16." Dual speed, multiple water temp selections and infinite water level. That machine lasted 10 years of heavy use (5 children). Would have lasted longer but it was converted to a portable at one point and I think that really wore it out.
my 2 cents.
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Post# 30958-7/15/2003-01:34 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: My Washer has arrived
MESSAGE: Congratulations on the arrival of the new washer. Are you hooking it up to hot and cold water or to cold water only? I wouldn't like to do warm washes only, I would use the 60C cycle a lot too.
Are you sure it does 4 rinses on the hi temp wash? That sounds a lot to me.
Hope to see the pictures soon and hear more about your washing experiences.
Louis
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Post# 30959-7/15/2003-01:50 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Detergent Fragrance Question (Tide)
MESSAGE: Angus,
Tide was never available in the Netherlands and I can't remember seeing it in the stores I went to in other European countries on the continent. Overhere Ariel is P&G's leading brand. Other P&G brands are Omo, Dash (with softener) and Dreft (not for baby clothes but for delicates).
This week I visited friends who had been in France. They bought a bottle of liquid detergent that smelled really like soap (actually really like "Savon de Marseille", an olive oil based soap). They told me the clothes smelled like that too after washing. Much better than Persil Natural that claims smelling like soap. But after using that I found the clothes smelled like petrol, yuck!
Louis
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Post# 30960-7/15/2003-02:22 ||| laundromat (florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Detergent Fragrance Question (detergent fragrance)
MESSAGE: I went to Walmart and saw a new version of GainHE detergent and it smells great!!! I was also impressed with its lo sudsing as well as the way it really brought out the colors and brightened the white in my laundry.In fabric softners,there is a Colgate Palmolive brand called Suavatel that comes in 4 different fragrances.The one I like is in a yellow bottel.The Gain (in liquid or powder)retails for $4.97. The Suavatel retails for $2.97. People at work ask me what kind of cologne I am wearing when they smell it on my clothes.When I explain to them I do not wear cologne and that they smell the detergent or softner on my clothes,it sells them on the product.
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Post# 30961-7/15/2003-05:54 ||| mrb627 (Atlanta GA)
SUBJECT: Another Agi-Tub on Ebay?
MESSAGE: This looks like another re-badged agi-tub/skinny-mini on ebay. The ad says that it is about two years old. Hmm... When was the last year that these were made?
MRB
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2335272607&category=20714
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Post# 30962-7/15/2003-05:56 ||| mrb627 (Atlanta GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Detergent Fragrance Question (Red Bottle Wisk)
MESSAGE: I remember the way Wisk used to smell. Remember when it was in the red bottle with the yellow cap? The house used to wreek of it on Saturday Morning.
Stop it! I'm tearing up......
MRB
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Post# 30963-7/15/2003-07:41 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Another Agi-Tub on Ebay?
MESSAGE: Not quite. The skinny Mini stack design was used by many manufactures and is still used today. The agi-tub; however, was exclusive to Frigidaire. While the exterior designs are similar, what's under the lid is extremely different.
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Post# 30964-7/15/2003-08:32 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Another Agi-Tub on Ebay?
MESSAGE: 3 knobs on the right -- timer, water temp and water level -- show that it is not an AgiTub. GM AgiTubs were last made in 1979. After WCI took over, they were mini-indexing-tubs inside, just like all other WCI products.
-ph
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Post# 30965-7/15/2003-08:35 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Detergent Fragrance Question (suavizante y jabon)
MESSAGE: Suavitel is the Colgate-Palmolive fabric softener in Mexico that is making headway into the USA. Walmart also carries Ariel in a box, but it is not quite the same as the Ariel in a bag from Mexico.
-ph
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Post# 30966-7/15/2003-08:37 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Detergent Fragrance Question
MESSAGE: I want original Punch, Oxydol and Final Touch back!
-ph
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Post# 30967-7/15/2003-08:56 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: POD - 7/15/03
MESSAGE: What a great ad.
I love the dishwasher!
It almost looked like they were going after hippies during that time. I guess they found out that the hippies did not have money, or even know what dirty dishes were back then.
Very Funky!
Brent
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Post# 30968-7/15/2003-10:37 ||| salvoboy (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: RE: Detergent Fragrance Question (suavizante y jabon)
MESSAGE: I use the Ariel in a bag. It's a bargain (10kg/$9 at the Latin market), cleans GREAT and makes low/no suds. Has a fairly strong scent while washing but smells great coming out of the dryer. Suavitel is available in Calif at Safeway/Von's as well as WalMart.
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Post# 30969-7/15/2003-11:42 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Detergent Fragrance Question (suavizante y jabon)
MESSAGE: I found Ariel-in-a-bag at a local independent grocery. It's a blue powder. Ariel-in-a-box at Wal-Mart is white powder laced with blue. Neither one seems very concentrated, usage instructions call for 7/8 cup on a full heavy-soil load.
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Post# 30970-7/15/2003-11:49 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Detergent Fragrance Question
MESSAGE: OK,and I will take original Blue Cheer, Ajax, Fab and Rinso with Color Bleach. In the fabric softener department, I would be willing to share some Final Touch with you. funny - found some old bottles of that at an estate sale a few months back. Even 25 years old and slightly thickened, still smelled as I remember it. Ah, my youth.......
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Post# 30971-7/15/2003-11:59 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - 7/15/03 (I LOVE THE 60S!)
MESSAGE: I always wanted to get a late 60s washer and stick flower decals on it to give it a PEACE AND LOVE look to it.
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Post# 30972-7/15/2003-12:11 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: Claudette
MESSAGE: Hurricane Claudette blew in about 50 miles from here, more or less. Several area towns, mostly further toward the coast, are/were without power. Not much going on here, occasional power blinks, wind, a few broken tree limbs, some rain but nothing spectacular thus far. I heard somebody's portable basketball goal blew over onto a neighbor's car somewhere in town.
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Post# 30973-7/15/2003-12:13 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - 7/15/03 (I LOVE THE 60S!)
MESSAGE: Credit goes to SactoTeddyBear for providing the ad and sending a copy to me for scanning.
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Post# 30974-7/15/2003-13:37 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - 7/15/03 (I LOVE THE 60S!)
MESSAGE: Thank you Gregg, for recognizing me as the one who shared this "POD" for the Club to see.
There will also be some more upcoming "POD's" that Gregg is helping me to get fowarded to be used for future "POD" Photo's.
I actually got the idea to "doctor-up" that Picture of the Dishwasher shortly after getting the Brochures. I just found that Huge Flower some place else in the Brochure, cut it out and Scotch-Taped it onto the Front Upper Panel of the Cover Photo. When I asked Gregg to help me to share my Photo's, I thought it would be great to include that, just to show another way that you could "Brighten-Up" your Kitchen Appliances. I hope that you enjoy the Photo's coming soon, to your Favorite Site as future "POD's" of more Classic Appliance "Remember-When's" to check out.
Regards and Peace, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...
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Post# 30975-7/15/2003-13:41 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - 7/15/03 (I LOVE THE 60S!)
MESSAGE: Hey! Club Friend's, I forgot to mention that the particular Custom Imperial Dishwasher shown is the same Model that I bought my Parent's in the late-60s, but it was in the
Copper-Tone Color and it was one of the largest Capacity Interior's I've ever seen, other than the Kenmore's with the Round Upper Rack's.
Regards and Peace, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...
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Post# 30976-7/15/2003-13:58 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: My Washer has arrived (4 rinses on hi tempretures)
MESSAGE: Yes this is true, 4 rinses on the high tempretures. Bearing in mind this is what the engineer said to me, I do not want to test this out as the tub fills to about 8 to 10 gallons. and that is a lot of water the heat up, The sad fact is I only have cold fill :-( only so you get my point. A low tempreture of 40 degrees is quiet adequit for my needs, the low tempreture wash programe I use is great and cleans very well on all fabrics. I am using surf sunfresh and while the water heats up to the 40 degrees while the agitator is dormant, surf has a better effect on the dirt and stains.
I have great machine I am very happy with it, the best machine I have had.
Question guys as regards washing products:- has anyone found the major suppermarkets own label brands as good as the leading brands of washing powder products. Once excellent example is Tescos bio and non bio and with fabric conditioner. Best regards to one and all HBMUK
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Post# 30977-7/15/2003-14:01 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: Web site pics
MESSAGE: Just to let you know guys I have all ready had 92 hits on my Hotpoint site, errrrm there are no pics there yet I will let you know HBMUK
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Post# 30978-7/15/2003-15:02 ||| mrb627 (Atlanta GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Another Agi-Tub on Ebay? (My Bad)
MESSAGE: Does anyone have any pics of the inerds of one of these models? I'm sure I have seen one, but can't place it in my head.
Malcolm
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Post# 30979-7/15/2003-15:03 ||| mrb627 (Atlanta GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Detergent Fragrance Question (Final Touch)
MESSAGE: That was the FS with bluing in it, right? Whatever happened to this formula?
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Post# 30980-7/15/2003-15:04 ||| mrb627 (Atlanta GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Claudette (Hurricane?)
MESSAGE: Did Claudette ever actually make it to Hurricane status? It is pretty much over for you by now, isn't it?
Malcolm
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Post# 30981-7/15/2003-15:31 ||| mrb627 (Atlanta GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Another Agi-Tub on Ebay? (You mean one of these?)
MESSAGE: I think this answers my question. You gotta love Ebay, sometimes...
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2335351922&category=20714
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Post# 30982-7/15/2003-16:30 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Claudette (Hurricane?)
MESSAGE: It did, but minimal level. Official maximum sustained was about 80 mph, with unofficial reports of gusts to 88 and 104 at coastal areas -- Matagorda, Palacios, Port Lavaca, Port O'Connor. Didn't get that high here.
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Post# 30983-7/15/2003-16:50 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: Bad spelling and grammer
MESSAGE: Sorry about the bad spelling and grammer guys, I do hope you understand what I am saying
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Post# 30984-7/15/2003-17:06 ||| mrb627 (Atlanta GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Claudette (Safe, so Far)
MESSAGE: Well, at least everyone is safe from nature this year, so far.
I went through Hurricane Andrew back in the 90's in South Florida. That was as close to nature as I wanted to get.
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Post# 30985-7/15/2003-17:08 ||| mrb627 (Atlanta GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Bad spelling and grammer (No problemo!)
MESSAGE: As long as you type slowly, cause I can't read very fast :-)
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Post# 30986-7/15/2003-18:47 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: GROOVY POD
MESSAGE: What YEAR is represented by today's POD? It's so GROOVY - I'm gonna guess 1969..I was ready to believe the flower.
B
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Post# 30987-7/15/2003-18:53 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - 7/15/03 (I LOVE THE 60S!)
MESSAGE: Thank you for sharing your creativity! As Imperial Bob said, I thought this was an actual unretouched photo! Remember the Kelvinator appliances they sold where you could get all those "funky" fronts? We had this type of Frigidaire dishwasher for many years and it gave excellent service. They are very roomy inside!
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Post# 30988-7/15/2003-19:32 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Another Agi-Tub on Ebay? (An agitub)
MESSAGE: An agitub looks like this...
LINK: http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/bc/kenmore800/vwp?.dir=/pictures/Land+Of+The+Rust+3&.src=ph&.dnm=washin+009.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/bc/kenmore800/lst%3f%26.dir=/pictures/Land%2bOf%2bThe%2bRust%2b3%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 30989-7/15/2003-19:39 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Another Agi-Tub on Ebay? (An agitub)
MESSAGE: And it runs and sounds like this...
LINK: http://members.cox.net/rotoswirl/videos/overflow.wmv
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Post# 30990-7/15/2003-20:32 ||| cehalstead (charleston, wv)
SUBJECT: RE: Detergent Fragrance Question (detergent "
scent"
)
MESSAGE: I have found that Classic "ALL" smells just about like it did in the sixties and seventies. I don't know if it is available everywhere, but I found it at Dollar General ($3.00 for a big box). It is low sudsing, too!
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Post# 30991-7/15/2003-20:35 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - 7/15/03 (I LOVE THE 60S!)
MESSAGE: I remember my aunts dw was like this one, but only had the one dial. The capacity was huge. It was in copertone. It did make a lot of noise. But a cool dishwasher.
By the way Scott - I did get your message - I will call you back soon.
Peter
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Post# 30992-7/15/2003-20:38 ||| cehalstead (charleston, wv)
SUBJECT: picture of the day
MESSAGE: Could someone contact me about "donating" some pictures to be considered for POD? I have a large collection of old magazines from the 50's and 60's with lots of appliance ads, especially washers and dryers.
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Post# 30993-7/15/2003-22:40 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Another Agi-Tub on Ebay? (An agitub)
MESSAGE: Wow, ain't the 'net a kewl thing for almost instant sharing of material!! Is it just me, or does that sound similar to a WP/KM belt-drive?
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Post# 30994-7/15/2003-22:49 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: GROOVY POD (:Groovy"
Frigidiare Dishwasher:)
MESSAGE: Hey! Bob, you are correct that is a 1969 Model Dishwasher, the very same year that I did buy one of the Custom Imperial's for my Parent's, with the Rapid Advance Timer, of which I forgot to mention in my prior Posting. The only thing that was unfortunate about that group of Dishwasher's as with I believe some other Brand's was the Vinyl Coated Interior that tended to tear apart, especially around the opening at the Motor/Pump and caused the Dishwasher to Leak eventually.
I'm glad that everyone really enjoyed my "Master-Piece" Photo and will enjoy other's as they arrive later on.
Regards and Peace, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...
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Post# 30995-7/16/2003-00:00 ||| Gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: how much to fill the DW ??
MESSAGE: Does anyone know how far up you fill those old manual fill, impeller type DW's ?? AND, do you start the motor before fill ?? The 1949 GE that I recently acquired does not seem to need much water and if you fill more than 1/3 up the height of the impeller (approx 1.5 gal) the motor does not have enough juice to start and just hums for a few seconds and quits. But with just a bit less water it, you can definately hear the water spraying around inside. Thanks much ........... - gregm
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Post# 30996-7/16/2003-00:13 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Another Agi-Tub on Ebay? (An agitub)
MESSAGE: Cool video Jason! Is that an overflow wash/rinse, or a recirculating lint filter?
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Post# 30997-7/16/2003-00:15 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Suggestions? (F & P agitation stroke)
MESSAGE: Wow, I've never seen a stroke that wide, it evenlooks like it'
s more than 360 degrees. And what a different sound, sounds like a zipper being opened and closed
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Post# 30998-7/16/2003-00:32 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: lucky again this week, '49GE-DW found (GE dishwasher)
MESSAGE: Try turning the impeller by hand and see if it turns freely. If it does, there's a possiblity that it IS overheating because the starting windings aren't dropping out (bad centrifigal switch?)
and tripping the overload breaker
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Post# 30999-7/16/2003-01:40 ||| Jakins (Kissimmee, Fl.)
SUBJECT: RE: how much to fill the DW ?? (Top Tank)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg
I had one of these dishwashers on the lid you will see a switch that says Fill Drain and Wash Rince. You turn the motor on connect hose to sink and put the switch to fill drain and turn the water on. the lid of your dishwasher is a water tank. you let the water run untill the tank fills and it overflows from the center hole onto the impeller and gives a some what weak spray rince. you let the water run till the water being pumped out by this time is hot. Turn off the water at the sink, when water from pump stops flip the switch on the lid to wash-rince and a premeasured amount of water is released through the soap cup. the weight of the water also stops the lid from lifting when the hot water is spun by the impeller. also the power switch has a relay if you need to start it with the water in it press and hold it for about a second to give the motor the extra boost. hope this helps
John
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Post# 31000-7/16/2003-03:23 ||| mrb627 (Atlanta GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Another Agi-Tub on Ebay? (An agitub)
MESSAGE: WOW! What a cool video clip of the agitub. THANKS! How fast does that thing spin? It can't be that fast with a plastic tub, can it?
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Post# 31001-7/16/2003-03:24 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: how much to fill the DW ?? (water fill for impeller machines)
MESSAGE: Even a high water fill shouldn't impede the impeller from starting, but in any case, the impeller machines seem to fill about as mcuh as the wash arm machines, or maybe a little less. All the impeller machines I've had experience with have the impeller already spinning as the water comes in.
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Post# 31002-7/16/2003-03:31 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: Child hood accidents
MESSAGE: When my Mum bought her very 1st twin tub, one day she was washing my fathers white shirts in the hot wash. After making some toast and jam, the foodstore in the kitchen was beside the washer. And yes you guessed it I dropped the partly full glass jam jar in the washer with the whites that was sloshing about in the tub, My mum god rest her punished me swiftly. I know she has to soak all the whites in a solution of bleach and hot water.
After using a towel at the gyms showers, a full bar of soap along with the towel has been put in the washer with other towels. Needles to say my kitchen carpet had a premature shampoo, the suds took an age to get rid of they were very highly concentrated. The washer suvived, hbmuk
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Post# 31003-7/16/2003-03:54 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Child hood accidents (Re: Water Hook-Ups:)
MESSAGE: Hey! Kevin, can't your new Hotpoint Washer be hooked-up to both Hot and Cold Water? Is it only hooked-up to Cold, because of the cost of Heating the whole Water Heater Tank of Water,
-vs- Heating just the Water in the Washer?
I'm glad that you are having a good time with your New Addition to your Family of Appliances. By the way, what did you do with your other Washer, did you Trade it in on the Hotpoint Washer? Can you maybe sell it for a reasonable amount to someone who can Repair it and get some more use out of it?
Regards and Peace, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...
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Post# 31004-7/16/2003-06:18 ||| CHRISTFR (st louis mo)
SUBJECT: RE: how much to fill the DW ?? (water fill for impeller machines)
MESSAGE: I HAVE A WESTY ROLL OUT WITH AN IMPELLER THIS MACHINE HAS A TIMED FILL THEN THE IMPELLER STARTS AND THE BOOK SAYS THE WATER LEVEL SHOULD BE 3/4 THE WAY UP THE IMPELLER FOR PROPER WASH BUT A LITTLE BIT MORE COULDNT HURT AND IT WASHES JUST FINE
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Post# 31005-7/16/2003-07:10 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Another Agi-Tub on Ebay? (agitub)
MESSAGE: The video was of the overflow rinse. There's no overflow wash. The spin before rinse is very slow. Like 400 or something. The final spin looks like 600. It's big on fun but not extraction. Took forever to dry in the dryer.
Once you've joined the 1000rpm club, you never go back :-D
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Post# 31006-7/16/2003-08:20 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Another Agi-Tub on Ebay? (agitub)
MESSAGE: Hi Jason,
thanks for posting that clip.
I couldn't see clearly, does the tub go back and forth with the agitator? I couldn't make out if the white collar around the top of the tub was turning or not.
Thanks.
Chris.
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Post# 31007-7/16/2003-08:43 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: lucky again this week, '49GE-DW found (GE dishwasher)
MESSAGE: I "fixed" the switch, so now my focus is on the motor ...
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Post# 31008-7/16/2003-08:46 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: how much to fill the DW ?? (Top Tank(thank you))
MESSAGE: huge help John !!! Thanks alot for the info, I appreciate it ........... I hope to get pics out here in about another week ........
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Post# 31009-7/16/2003-08:50 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: how much to fill the DW ?? (water fill for impeller machines(thnx))
MESSAGE: Thanks for the feedback, that does help :) ... ...
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Post# 31010-7/16/2003-08:55 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: how much to fill the DW ?? (water fill for impeller machines(CHRISTFR))
MESSAGE: I wonder what the amperage on your motor is ?? if it is more powerful than mine, mine is 5.5A , the Westy roll-out is a very cool machine, do you have pics of it ?? do you still use it regularly??
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Post# 31011-7/16/2003-08:59 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Another Agi-Tub on Ebay? (agitub)
MESSAGE: Yes. The tub IS the agitator. The center post is just a small three straight vanes. The entire inner tub is solid and goes back and forth kinda like at the speed of a belt drive Kenmore.
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Post# 31012-7/16/2003-08:59 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Another Agi-Tub on Ebay? (agitub)
MESSAGE: Yes. The tub IS the agitator. The center post is just a small three straight vanes. The entire inner tub is solid and goes back and forth kinda like at the speed of a belt drive Kenmore.
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Post# 31013-7/16/2003-09:31 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Another Agi-Tub on Ebay? (the future of the 1-18)
MESSAGE: I would almost put money on it that the GM Frigidaire 1-18 would have turned into a oscillating agitator washer. The AgiTub mechanism is so simple and probably so much more inexpensive to produce than the Rollermatic. Thanks for the video clip, Jason!
-ph
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Post# 31014-7/16/2003-09:33 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Another Agi-Tub on Ebay? (agitub spin speed)
MESSAGE: Yes, 610 rpm spin...
-ph
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Post# 31015-7/16/2003-09:41 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Another Agi-Tub on Ebay? (agitub spin speed)
MESSAGE: I'll bet you if they made an agitub with a steel or porcelain basket, they could've gone up to 1000 with it.
My guess is the plastic would stretch and finally break if they tried to spin it any faster.
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Post# 31016-7/16/2003-10:23 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Another Agi-Tub on Ebay? (An agitub)
MESSAGE: Cool video Jason - did you get the whole cycle on tape? What a fun machine to watch! Thanks for posting that - what did you think of the turnover in the load - looks like it's rather slow, but those weren't very big fins on 'agitator' either.
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Post# 31017-7/16/2003-10:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Another Agi-Tub on Ebay? (agitub spin speed)
MESSAGE: Can you imagine this thing trying to dry clothes on 120 volts? The dryer heating elements weren't energized during the washer agitation or spin cycles at 120v, must have taken forever to do a week's washing!
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Post# 31018-7/16/2003-10:26 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Another Agi-Tub on Ebay? (An agitub)
MESSAGE: I got the whole cycle on tape as well as the 1-18, rollermatic and the new LG. turnover isn't great on it because of the small fins and that was a fully loaded machine. Turnover did happen but not a whole lot. It was fun to play with and watch.
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Post# 31019-7/16/2003-10:28 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Another Agi-Tub on Ebay? (agitub spin speed)
MESSAGE: It's 220. The dryer gets good and hot but just takes forever because of the 610rpm spin.
1000rpm club
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Post# 31020-7/16/2003-16:39 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: Hotwater hook ups
MESSAGE: Hi Steve, When I moved into this appartment 6 years ago, the kitchen was plumbed in for coldwater only. The work round for this is to do a manual fill from the kitchen faucet/tap, via a hose conected to the hot water faucet/tap. I part fill the washer with hot water 1st, then finish off with the remaining fill with cold water via the washer. This cuts out the heating time on the washer, so the wash cycle works straight thru. I have economy electric that kicks in at 1.30 am and halts at 8.30 am, this is half price electricity which I use to heat up the main hot water tank. I dont bathe I shower, so a tank full lasts all day. I wash my dishes at the sink in a dish, and recycle the water as a flush for the toilet. I use eviromentally friendly washing up liquid, so I do my bit for the enviroment.
To get back, the old machine is cluttering my breakfast bar room. I can and will sell it on as spares or repair, to recoup some cash back on what I have spent.
Regards to one and all HBMUK
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Post# 31021-7/16/2003-17:00 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: Another Agi-Tub on Ebay? (agitub)
MESSAGE: Agree Jason, My washing takes no time at all to dry now :-) best move I ever made
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Post# 31022-7/16/2003-17:06 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: Agi-tub
MESSAGE: Did Frigidaire ever made this machine in a large capacity version?
I think that I remember seeing an Frigidaire commercial that you can wash wrinkle free men suit in it without worrying about stretching and wrinkling back in the early 70's because of this special tub!
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Post# 31023-7/16/2003-17:26 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Agi-tub (standard capacity)
MESSAGE: I think they only had this in standard capacity due to the size of the machine. It was made to go in mobile homes or apartments.
Fun machines.
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Post# 31024-7/16/2003-17:49 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Agi-tub (standard capacity)
MESSAGE: Never in another size, but they did make a stand-alone washer and dryer of this same design. The dryer had controls on the front and was simply the same as the stacked set, but with a regular cabinet. The washer had a small, slanted panel on the back with the knobs. I'd love to find one of these sets, a friend of my grandmother had them but I never got to see them run. She replaced an Easy spinner washer and a TOL GE dryer from the early 60's. As soon as she got them, I wrote away to Frigidaire to get brochures - wish I'd kept all of those through the years.
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Post# 31025-7/16/2003-17:56 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: 1965 Lady Kenmore Washer Found
MESSAGE: Don (jectaction) in Minneapolis is probably just dying to see the pictures so here they are! (Click on the picture for the large size version.)
I found this machine last night a Lowes and called Don as soon as I got it in the van. I believe it was manufactured in 1967 by the serial number which would be about right as my '66 spring/summer catalog only had the Lady in coppertone, white and turquoise - no green. It's a beautiful washer, I hooked it up today in the garage and it seems to work well too. The roto-flex agitator, scrubber cap and detergent cup are in near mint condition so it will be fun to see it all cleaned up and running in Don's basement.
Congrats Don - dreams do come true!
LINK: http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Misc.+Fun&.src=ph&.dnm=1965+Lady+Kenmore.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Misc.%2bFun%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 31026-7/16/2003-18:30 ||| jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1965 Lady Kenmore Washer Found (A dream come true!)
MESSAGE: I am still in shock and not so sure of my typing skills at the moment. To say I am excited is an understatement. I joined this group a year ago, and my first find was the matching 65 LK dryer. I have had so much fun finding all of my dream machines, and this machine was the last on the list, but the one I wanted the most. I would see a Kenmore machine on ebay or somewhere with a piece or part I could use, and think I should jump at it. Good friends like Greg, Robert, and Jimmy would say, "Be patient, your machine will come along." (That was the hard part) After Greg called last night, I was so excited I could hardly sleep, and couldn't wait to see the pics. Avocado has never looked better to me than it does right now! Yes, dreams do come true, with the help of good friends who not only share a common interest, but are generous beyond belief. In my home, today has been officially proclaimed "Greg Nunn Day," and that is more than enough reason to celebrate!
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Post# 31027-7/16/2003-18:52 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: 1965 Lady Kenmore Washer Found
MESSAGE: Great find, Greg! And congratulations, Don, on your soon to be new arrival! You will be able to "spank" your clothes clean. Now, Greg, when are you going to find a Unimatic behind Lowes???? Call me when you do....no matter what time it is! :-)
Rich
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Post# 31028-7/16/2003-19:18 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1965 Lady Kenmore Washer Found (Someday my dream will come true)
MESSAGE: I'm praying to drive behind Lowe's and find a Kenmore 800.
I drove by yesterday and saw a fridge and rickety old stove
:-(
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Post# 31029-7/16/2003-19:59 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Another Agi-Tub on Ebay? (agitub)
MESSAGE: One piece tub with 3 small vanes? Gee, made just like my Suzy Homemaker washer! :-)
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Post# 31030-7/16/2003-20:00 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: Kenmore Electirc and Gas Dryer's:
MESSAGE: Hey! Club Member's I would rather anounce this here rather than in the item's For Sale area, to give a fair chance to Club Member's. I have a 1965 Lady-K Electric 220-Volt Dryer, that is White and has the Electronic Sensor Bands around the Circumfrence of the Drum, only the Heat and Air Push to Start and only Degree of Dryness Control Selection, For Sale. I also have an {approx} Mid-80s "MOL" Kenmore Gas Dryer that is Harvest Gold, that originally had an internal End-of Cycle Buzzer, but I added an Adjustable Control and Knob on the Console that is For Sale also. The Cabinet isn't totally in toatlly great shape, but it isn't that bad, mostly just aged looking.
I got the 1965 Lady-K Dryer from some Neighbor's some time ago and had to replace the Heating Element and basically some cleaning out.
The "MOL" 80s Kenmore Dryer was bought "AS-IS" at a Sears Sidewalk Sale. It has the Electronic Moisture Sensor Control and Time Dry, and it has the Timer in the Center, with the other Conrtol's on either side of the Timer. At one time, I had to have the "Glow-Coil" Ingition Lighter replaced of the Gas Burner and nothing else has ever been done to it, except tp add the End-of Cycle Signal Control. It is For Sale as well.
I might also have my 1997 Maytag Neptune Washer and Gas Dryer For Sale later on sometime soon too. They still have the Extended Warrantee on them and are in Very Good Shape. They are White Color and are the "3000" Model, with the Mechanical Dial Control's and the Washer has the 850-RPM Max. Extract Spin. I would like to get $950.00 for the Set and I will not break them up, when I sell them, I prefer to sell them as a Set.
I would like to get around $175.00 for the Lady-K and around $125.00 for the "MOL" Gas Dryer. If anyone is interested, I can somehow get Photo's to you, by Polaroid Camera, but I'm sorry that I don't have a Digital Camera as of yet. Both Dryer's are covered up in my Back Yard, with a Blue Tarp and very well Tied down, but they still might need some touch-up cleaning up and out, before operating them. If you are interested, you can E-Mail me directly at:
SactoTeddyBear@aol.com
Regards and Peace, Steve
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Post# 31031-7/16/2003-20:09 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Electirc and Gas Dryer's: (Maytag Neptune's)
MESSAGE: So what replaced the Maytag Neptunes, something new or vintage? Seems sort of soon to replace Neptunes unless for something more fun. Seems like they didn't make the mechanical control versions for very long, I was surprised. :-)
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Post# 31032-7/16/2003-20:18 ||| FilterFlo (Coventry Twp, Ohio)
SUBJECT: Congrats to JetAction
MESSAGE: Oh Don, Im so happy for you that you finally found your Kenmore washer. See! It really didnt take so long! But Im really in suspense: Does it have the SudsMiser? I hope I hope I hope........
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Post# 31033-7/16/2003-21:03 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Electirc and Gas Dryer's: (Maytag Neptune's:)
MESSAGE: The Neptune's are going to be replaced with several Classic and Vintage Washer's and Dryer's, until I decide on what possible "New" Model's to replace them with. I plan to use
1-Washer and Dryer for a while, then trade them around to use another Washer and Dryer and use those for a while,
"etc., etc., etc." and I also have both Electric and Gas Dryer's that I can operate at different times and even together, but not next to each other. I can have 2-Washer's operating at the same time too. If I have a Gas Dryer operating, I will have to use my 25-foot/220-Volt Extension Cord to operate an Electric Dryer and it could sit any place in the Garage that I desire to have it operating. I will then also clamp a Nylon Stocking on the Exhaust opening to catch any extra Lint that might escape, so it won't get all over the Garage.
"No comment's as to where the Nylon's are coming from"!!!
{lol}...
I've been looking around and checking out all of the Posting's of the Guy's Addition's to their Collection's of their "New" Model's on the Sandbox, but I'm not totally sure which I'm the most impressed with for sure.
Regards and Peace, Steve
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Post# 31034-7/16/2003-21:15 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: 1965 Lady Kenmore Washer Found (Greg, that is an amazing find!)
MESSAGE: I bet that you had to wipe your eyes several times to see if you were really seeing something so wonderful! Why on earth would someone get rid of such a gem? I am so glad that you were back there to save it. I really makes me wonder how many of these get crushed, in this good of shape, and still working!!!
Don, congrats! This is a beauty!
Thanks for the pictures Greg!
Brent
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Post# 31035-7/16/2003-22:11 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1965 Lady Kenmore Washer Found (sweet)
MESSAGE: congrads Don!! what a nice machine, hey its just like the one Bruce found on ebay earlier this year in turquoise, he got that set that was never used.
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Post# 31036-7/16/2003-22:32 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: 1965 Lady Kenmore Washer Found (Lady Kenmore Washer )
MESSAGE: This is a real beauty
Peter
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Post# 31037-7/16/2003-22:34 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Another Agi-Tub on Ebay? (An agitub)
MESSAGE: I was not able to view - my software wouldn't allow
I am courious even though I always wished it went up and down!
Peter
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Post# 31038-7/17/2003-00:43 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Electirc and Gas Dryer's: (Re: Neptune Info:)
MESSAGE: I just got to thinking that I shouldn't have announced about my Neptune's on the Applianceville Site Posting's and I'm sorry for taking the space for some newer Machine's info. I have added them to the Sandbox Posting's for further info and replies.
Regards, and Peace, Steve
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Post# 31039-7/17/2003-02:31 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: 1965 Lady Kenmore Washer Found (A dream come true!)
MESSAGE: Congratulations, it's a beauty. And thank you Greg for sharing the wonderful pictures.
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Post# 31040-7/17/2003-05:41 ||| Jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: 1965 Lady Kenmore
MESSAGE: Thanks everyone for your nice thoughts. This machine does have the suds saver feature, and probably just needs a new bulb to light up that console. I will take pics, and learn to post them when it is all up and running in its new home!
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Post# 31041-7/17/2003-05:42 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: 1965 Lady Kenmore Washer Found (Greg, that is an amazing find!)
MESSAGE: Greg - what a beautiful find that machine is!! I am always amazed that people will dispose of such gems. Lucky too that you are able to get behind your Lowe's. There are two or three within 40 miles of me and for each one the rear is fenced off with 12 foot high padlocked chicken wire. Can't even SEE behind the store.......
And congratulations to you Don. That is a great feat - matching dream washer and dryer in mint condition. Don't you also have a lovely poppy red 1-18?? That is almost better than hitting the lottery. Quel chance!!
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Post# 31042-7/17/2003-08:50 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1965 Lady Kenmore Washer Found (A dream come true!)
MESSAGE: WooHoo!!! Good Job Greg!!! Congrats Don!!! YAY!!!
-ph
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Post# 31043-7/17/2003-09:52 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1965 Lady Kenmore Washer Found (YAY for the Lady!)
MESSAGE: Oh WOW! What a wonderful find Greg, I figured sooner or later Lowes would pay off with something vintage. I'm sort of perplexed at the fact that Sears was still manufacturing a 1965 model in 1967.
Congratulations Don! I bet you can't wait to see it!
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Post# 31044-7/17/2003-10:03 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Agi-tub (standard capacity)
MESSAGE: Thanks, that's the one I was talking about. It had a slanted panel and I think if I'm correct that the lid opens to the left.
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Post# 31045-7/17/2003-12:37 ||| Manor_Avenue (Fresno, CA)
SUBJECT: To Robert (Unimatic 1140) re '57 G.E. Filter-Flo
MESSAGE: I used to see the '57 washer all the time in the kitchen of my grandparents' flat in San Francisco; of course, that was up until about 1970 when, after my grandmother passed away, my grandfather came to live with us, and the Filter-Flo was one of many pieces of furniture that was left behind. That '57 was my earliest automatic washer memory; it seemed very Lost In Space to me even before Lost In Space graced us on TV. Something about the color of that coral orange timer dial when it was lit up that I never forgot. And, thanks for the reference to the older posting in the archives. I usually do all of those things, only it's now summer and between 100-110 each day, so my days of getting around to the shops are over until autumn, plus I do a lot to help my elderly mother on the weekends. I have to get everything done and be back home by 10:00 am because it's just too damned hot out there for me! Well, one of these days, one of the '57 "Flo's" will turn up. I appreciate your response to my question.
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Post# 31046-7/17/2003-13:08 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: 1965 Lady Kenmore Washer Found
MESSAGE: Don, CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!! I'm so excited for ya. And Greg, you mentioned dreams come true, well, I do have a few in my mind I'm still pining fur!!!!!!, both man & machine!!!
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Post# 31047-7/17/2003-13:11 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: 1965 Lady Kenmore Washer Found (A dream come true!)
MESSAGE: Don, it's amazing and words can't describe how thrilled I am for you. And Nunn better than today being proclaimed Greg Nunn day at your house!!!! Bob
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Post# 31048-7/17/2003-13:12 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: 1965 Lady Kenmore Washer Found
MESSAGE: Now wait a minute Rich, Greg is looking out for me for a Unimatic TOO!!!!!!!! Watch it buster!!!! (I MIGHT settle for a RapidDry though)
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Post# 31049-7/17/2003-16:00 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1965 Lady Kenmore Washer Found (YAY for the Lady!)
MESSAGE: So far, this is the only "keeper" of the vintage stuff I've seen. I saw a 1957 Whirlpool Imperial gas dryer a few weeks ago, but it was badly damaged in it's journey and a 65 Maytag Highlander that had been dropped on it's head and smashed beyond repair. I did bring home a 1-18 a while back, but it was too far gone to even mess with - snagged a few parts and returned it for "exchange."
Don said his matching dryer was built in 1968, but also a 65 style. I only have a 66 s/s catalog from this time so I don't know how long they continued this LK design. The model of the washer is definitely a 65, but the serial number shows built in 67.
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Post# 31050-7/17/2003-16:01 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Agi-tub (standard capacity)
MESSAGE: The only ones I've seen had the lid opening to the rear... Are you sure it was an Agitub washer?
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Post# 31051-7/17/2003-16:05 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Electirc and Gas Dryer's: (Maytag Neptune's:)
MESSAGE: So since the Neptunes were fairly new, are you saying that you weren't really happy with them?
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Post# 31052-7/17/2003-16:17 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: 1965 Lady Kenmore Washer Found (1965 Lady K)
MESSAGE: Gee what memories THAT machine brings back! That is the exact model my Great Aunt used when she was a housekeeper for a family for many years. She was pretty savvy, and would "cheat" the set cycles. She liked to use the maximum wash time, but that was only available on the "A" (Cottons-Linens White) cycle which used hot water. So she'd set the machine for the "A" cycle, then after pushing in the knob to start, she'd manually move the timer one click and that would make the washer use warm water, while still washing for the maximum time.
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Post# 31053-7/17/2003-17:21 ||| Pulsator (826 Vesper ,Ann Arbor, Michigan 48103)
SUBJECT: Agi-Tub Found by yours truely at the junkyard, but is there a chance of it still working?
MESSAGE: Okay, today I went to the junkyard and found a GM Frigidaire Skinny Mini, in poppy. The washer looks to be in very good condition, the tub a bit dirty, but of course I had no tools at the time to know whether it would work or not. The dryer, that is another story, it appears that the rear is gone, the tub fell out and the motors look practically new. Other than that the machine seems fine. Is it worth taking? Do you think it was thrown out do to the dryer? I am thinking about saving it. It would be my first solid tub washer, unless you think the washer is probably broken. Or is there a chance any of you have any other extra-have-no-room-for solid tub machines?
Well, I thank you so much for any info you give me on the topic but be warned, I need to know by tommorrow morning, say 8:00 AM eastern time.
Best Washes!
-Jamie-
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Post# 31054-7/17/2003-18:00 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: "brand" about to retire
MESSAGE: Kelvinator, the nation's second oldest continuously used major appliance brand and the first to appear on electric refrigerators is being retired by Electrolux appliances.
"In recent years, a full-line of Kelvinator majors was handled only by small independant retailers. As these type of outlets are decreasing in numbers, sales of the Kelvinator line have likewise been declining for several years, prompting the decision to phase out the brand", an Electrolux spokesperson said.
Retailers who have stocked the Kelvinator brand will be offered the Gibson line, also owned by Electrolux.
The Kelvinator brand originally appeared on the first electric refrigerators marketed for home use in 1914. The brand was named to honor Lord William Kelvin, the English physicist and mathemetician who developed an early thermometer and determined the exact temperature reading of absolute zero.
The Nash Motor Co. acquired ownership of the Kelvinator brand in the late 1930's and the company was known for a while as Nash-Kelvinator. The brand was subsequently sold by Nash successor American motors in the late 1960's to a firm that would become White Consolidated Industries, which was acquired in 1982 by AB Electrolux of Sweden, the brands current owner.
The only U.S. appliance brand in longer use is Hotpoint, which was first applied to a line of electric irons in 1903. The third oldest brand in use since 1916 is Frigidaire, also owned by Electrolux Appliances.
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Post# 31055-7/17/2003-18:05 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: "brand" about to retire
MESSAGE: Well, now I'm really glad our 1948 Kelvinator fridge went to a good home when my parents moved to the retirement apt. I remember my dad saying it had been plugged in and was still cooling after being dormant for YEARS. It was given to a guy who was gonna use it to keep drinks cold.
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Post# 31056-7/17/2003-18:38 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: 1976-77 Lady Kenmore Dryer found on "e-bay"
MESSAGE: For those of you who are interested, there is a 1976-77 Lady Kenmore Electric Dryer up for auction on "e-bay". I think someone here at "classic appliances" already have the matching washer to go with this dryer. The dryer features mechanical controls with the light in the middle of the console. It looks to be in reasonably good shape. And they are letting it go relatively cheap. For those of you who may be interested, you can go on "e-bay" and take a look at it.
I believe it is white if I am not mistaking.
Thanks and Regards.....
--Charles--
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Post# 31057-7/17/2003-18:58 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: "brand" about to retire
MESSAGE: Interesting...bye bye Kelvy. I thought Electrolux acquired WCI in about 1992...was it really as early as 1982?
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Post# 31058-7/17/2003-19:01 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Electirc and Gas Dryer's: (Maytag Neptune's:)
MESSAGE: Hey! I'm happy with the Neptune's, except for not liking the lack of a Window on the Washer and for me, I just found out that the Washer doesn't do a very fast Spin, between the Wash and Rinses, until the Final Spin, when the Max. Extract is used. I'm thinking that is some cause of not getting rid of enough Wash Water and the Detergent after the Wash part or the Rinses, to get the Detergent out enough, for my desire.
The Washer does a great Job otherwise at Washing and the Dryer works great for Drying everything, as well. I've just decided to just wanting to use my Collection of Classic and Vintage Washer's and Dryer's, to do my Laundry in for a while and maybe look into some other either Front-Load set or stick with some Top-Load Brand's for a new Washer and Dryer.
I already have a Stack Set of a Gibson Washer and a White-Westinghouse Gas Dryer and I'm thinking about looking into maybe something like maybe a Fridgemore Set and then I would have 2-Stacked Sets next to each other. The newer Dryer would have to be Electric, but that wouldn't matter, because I already have the 220-Volt's available. I'm just not sure how to Vent another Dryer yet, without having to cut out another Vent area. I've tried to figure out if there is some way to use a "T" to Vent both out to the same Vent-Hood.
Regards and Peace, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...
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Post# 31059-7/17/2003-19:22 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Agi-tub (standard capacity)
MESSAGE: I probably have a bad case of memory loss, the commercial was shown only a few times during the daytime soaps so you may be right!
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Post# 31060-7/17/2003-19:53 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore Electirc and Gas Dryer's: (dual dryer venting)
MESSAGE: Hmm, I suspect you are going to stuck with two dryer vents because:
1. When using only one dyer, air will blow back into the dryer not in use, and,
2. The one vent wouldn't have enough CFM capacity to vent both dryers if operating at the same time, UNLESS, maybe you can get a bigger vent like they use on commercial laundry dryers and feed the two regular 4 inch vents into it. That would solve the CFM problem, but not the blowback problem. Then, it may be possible to get arond that problem, or at least minimize it, if you can use a Y connector instead of a T connector to hook the vents together into the larger commercial tubing.
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Post# 31061-7/17/2003-20:16 ||| laundromat (florida)
SUBJECT: 1969 lady kenmore washer and matching electric dryer
MESSAGE: I received a 1969 Lady Kenmore washer and dryer yesterday in mint condition!Tomorrow,I am going to break the washer down to replace the tub seal and the store owner who gave them to me has a spare dispenser tray to replace the one it has now.I am also replacing the dryer drum which has rusted a bit and ther VeriFlex agitator is in mint condition too.However , I will be taking it apart to clean out the built up residue.The underside and trans look like they were never touched!No leaking oil,no rust (except a few dings on the inside of the lid I will be touching up.)just some fading of the painted exterior which I am going to strip and refinish.all the pushbuttons work,all three speeds work,the lights come on on comand and the fine belt makes the washer silent!WooooHooooo!!!
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Post# 31062-7/17/2003-20:44 ||| Maryspete (Pittsburgh, PA)
SUBJECT: 1937 Detroit Vapor Gas Stove
MESSAGE: Just purchased this beauuuuty BUT it has not racks...and is missing the top to the broiler pan. Aproximate size of racks..16"W x 18"L....Can someone HELP>>>> Thanks!!!
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Post# 31063-7/17/2003-23:24 ||| alr2903 (new orleans)
SUBJECT: RE: Agi-tub (standard capacity)
MESSAGE: Gansky not an agitub question what years did the agitator colors change in the Sears. the 65-67 kenmore in the pics is gold, We had a gold pentavane in a 75 kenmore, I know white was the color in 76-77, with the advent of the dual action agitator, I think Sears agitators went white with all of the agitators is this correct, Figured you would know? Thanks.
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Post# 31064-7/17/2003-23:26 ||| alr2903 (new orleans)
SUBJECT: RE: 1965 Lady Kenmore Washer Found (Someday my dream will come true)
MESSAGE: Jasonl read question I left for Gansky bet you would know this one too. Everyone have a good TGIF. and thanks alr2903
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Post# 31065-7/17/2003-23:32 ||| alr2903 (new orleans)
SUBJECT: RE: 1965 Lady Kenmore Washer Found (Someday my dream will come true)
MESSAGE: jasonl what years did sears change the agitator colors i know black in the 50's and what year did they change to gold, i know they were gold in 1975 we had a gold pentavane in a new kenmore, I thin 1976 was the first year for the dual action agitator was white, and i think they changed all of them to white that year? is that right??? how are YOU??? have a good weekend. alr2903... TGIF
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Post# 31066-7/17/2003-23:37 ||| alr2903 (new orleans)
SUBJECT: RE: 1965 Lady Kenmore Washer Found (Someday my dream will come true)
MESSAGE: Sorry folks my posts did not show up now my questions are posted 4 times.... sorry.
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Post# 31067-7/18/2003-07:31 ||| jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: 1-18 dryer-65 LK
MESSAGE: Thanks again to all for their kind words about the 65LK. I have been redesigning my laundry room in my head, and realized that I will have to part with something to make this all fit. I have a 1-18 white gas dryer-(the first model)that will need to go. The dryer runs, but needs an igniter coil kit to ignite. The cabinet and console are beautiful. I will list it in the applianceville classifieds. Also, a friend of mine has been talking about his parents 61 or 62 LK washer. I do not know this model, anyone have a pic of it? Thanks, Don
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Post# 31068-7/18/2003-07:52 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: "brand" about to retire
MESSAGE: That's interesting, that Kelvinator is such a minor brand in USA now. It is still in the top three in Aus. Fisher & Paykel, Westinghouse and Kelvinator are the three big names in fridges here. Westinghouse and Kelvinator are clones of each other, generally trivial differences to maintain the pretence of separate brands. They were both made by Email for many years, now they have returned to the same owners of the brand name as in USA, Electrolux.
Chris.
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Post# 31069-7/18/2003-08:11 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: "brand" about to retire (Kelvinator discontinuance)
MESSAGE: It's the typical story, they simply didn't promote the brand well enough. When's the last time you saw an ad for Kelvinator appliances? GM pulled the same thing on Oldsmobile. hardly ever saw any ads UNTIL, they decided to discontinue Olds, now ads seem to be running continuously.
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Post# 31070-7/18/2003-09:47 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: "brand" about to retire
MESSAGE: Kelvy died when the orbital agitator died.
Same goes for Frigidaire. No pulsator=DEAD
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Post# 31071-7/18/2003-10:14 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: "brand" about to retire (overseas too?)
MESSAGE: But I wonder if they will retire Kelvinator overseas? Seems to me the Kelvinator is a big brand name in the Middle East and India.
-ph
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Post# 31072-7/18/2003-11:19 ||| Gt6racer (Michigan)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire WC 1975
MESSAGE: Hi,
We have been using this after inheriting it seven years ago. It must be the only appliance the wife doesn't want to replace ! Unfortunately she neglected to clean my pockets and a drywall screw put a hole in the rubber bellows under the agitator. Anyone know where I can get a new one ??
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Post# 31073-7/18/2003-11:57 ||| Activator (Tulsa, OK)
SUBJECT: RE: "brand" about to retire (Orbital/Pulsator)
MESSAGE: Sad but true. Can anyone explain to me why those two agitation methods bit the big one? I remember pulsation agitation from childhood, and how much fun it was to watch for specific articles to re-surface from their "rollover".
And in viewing Unimatic's clips of the ABC-O-Matic in action (I thank God--and Unimatic--for those clips on a frequent basis!), the clothing rollover is quite pronounced. Yet the back and forth method is the one that survived the longest.
So, what happened? I know some people thought Leonards/Kelvinators were not good washers (according to the old codger in the used appliance store/salvage yard where I purchased a small agitator collection in 1987), but I always thought Frigidaire had a pretty good record. Incidentally, I would kill to retrieve my agitator collection, which included a turquoise Leonard agitator.
So why did orbital and pulsation have to die?
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Post# 31074-7/18/2003-12:23 ||| gt6racer (Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire WC 1975 (Update)
MESSAGE: Now I've called everybody and anybody that might help. Electrolux even called their factory, and whilst they recognize a model WC, they do not have any information on it. The serial number is 61EG4988. Can anyone help ?
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Post# 31075-7/18/2003-13:01 ||| Pulsator (826 Vesper ,Ann Arbor, Michigan 48103)
SUBJECT: Screw the dryer but save that washer!
MESSAGE: Westinghouse washers! Top load but with an actual blue spiral agitator! I would kill for one of those! At least and the very least the agitator! Finally an agitator in the true blue color! Somebody has absolutely GOT to save this washer! Please! I have no room and it is too far away! If you live in New Jersey, save it! I do NOT want to see such a beauty go to someone who might beat it to death! It is so delicate and fragile! PLEASE don't let anyone hurt it! If you get it you could then either through awawy the dryer, keep it as a spare, give it to the reuse center, or just give it away, But someone please save that washer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2335765934&category=20714
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Post# 31076-7/18/2003-13:01 ||| Pulsator (826 Vesper ,Ann Arbor, Michigan 48103)
SUBJECT: Screw The Dryer But Save That Washer!
MESSAGE: Westinghouse washers! Top load but with an actual blue spiral agitator! I would kill for one of those! At least and the very least the agitator! Finally an agitator in the true blue color! Somebody has absolutely GOT to save this washer! Please! I have no room and it is too far away! If you live in New Jersey, save it! I do NOT want to see such a beauty go to someone who might beat it to death! It is so delicate and fragile! PLEASE don't let anyone hurt it! If you get it you could then either through awawy the dryer, keep it as a spare, give it to the reuse center, or just give it away, But someone please save that washer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2335765934&category=20714
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Post# 31077-7/18/2003-13:15 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Screw the dryer but save that washer! (Good one!)
MESSAGE: That's a neat find, Jamie! Looks like a mid 60s. I like the blue Swirl agitator and the filter. If I lived closer to NJ it would come home.
I'm not a dryer fanatic and that one's not all that great. Give me the Kenmore top filter dryer.
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Post# 31078-7/18/2003-13:22 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Screw The Dryer But Save That Washer!
MESSAGE: This is a White-Westinghouse so would probably be from the later 70's - looks very much like the 1968 Westy I found in the Iowa store but with the blue agitator.
I've been seen this auction for these machines for a while now, must not be able to get any takers.
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Post# 31079-7/18/2003-13:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire WC 1975
MESSAGE: Hi -
The best place to find these is appliance service companies that have been around for a while. These were very common for the 1-18 washer series and you should have no trouble tracking one down, especially in GM country! They come up on ebay every now and then as well too.
Best of luck!
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Post# 31080-7/18/2003-13:43 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire WC 1975
MESSAGE: Didn't someone say that repairclinic.com had them?
-ph
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Post# 31081-7/18/2003-13:54 ||| FilterFlo (Coventry Twp, Ohio)
SUBJECT: Selling on this website and ebay at the same time/
MESSAGE: To Frustration: I would not worry too much about the Tappan stove that is both on here and on ebay. The seller must think he has gold, making the starting bid at $1000.00 and still the reserve is not met! Probably no one in their right mind will pay that much for one of those stoves. And word of consolation to you: be patient, those stoves are out there: you will find another, and it is often better than the one you didnt get. Good luck ; I find those often, and will let you know if and when I do.
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Post# 31082-7/18/2003-14:24 ||| westie2 (arkansas)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire WC 1975 (Update)
MESSAGE: Try Daves Appliances in Penn. He had one for sale on e-bay in May. Here is his e-mail.
drs@sosbbs.com
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Post# 31083-7/18/2003-15:05 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Selling on this website and ebay at the same time/
MESSAGE: $1000 and a reserve price too! If my sister thought her 30" Fab 400 was worth even half of that, she'd rip it out of her kitchen and box it up today!
I agree with Jimmy (filterflo) these things can be found for less money elsewhere - and maybe even in better condition by the sound of the description.
Best of luck!
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Post# 31084-7/18/2003-15:05 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Screw the dryer but save that washer!
MESSAGE: I always thought those vintage Westys were handsome machines.
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Post# 31085-7/18/2003-15:09 ||| keymatic (Surrey.U.K)
SUBJECT: RE: 1965 Lady Kenmore Washer Found
MESSAGE: Hi Gansky
Sorry for being not having a very good knowledge of American washers, but what is a "Scrubber Cap" and what is it's uses?
I am most intrigued...
Thanks
Keith
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Post# 31086-7/18/2003-15:14 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: Date has been set
MESSAGE: Hi Guys, a date of Saturday 26th of July has been set for the vids of my Hotpoint toploader deluxe 1050. My good friend Les has all the gear and software to do titles and editing, so watch out I think you could be in for a bit of eye candy. I am stuck for a way to overide the safty mechanisim for the spin cycles, but trust me I will come thru. Regards and best wishes to all HBMUK
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Post# 31087-7/18/2003-15:20 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1965 Lady Kenmore Washer Found
MESSAGE: Keymatic, this feature was offered on some washers from Sears and Roebuck and Montgomery Ward (American retailers with private label brands) primarily in the 1960s. The cap of the agitator, rather than being a hard plastic, is a rubber material with a nubby raised surface. You could use it to scrub collars, spots, and etc in your laundry. In the case of Sears, a plastic detergent cup was provided to cover the scrubber for its storage and when the scrubber was not in use.
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Post# 31088-7/18/2003-17:48 ||| salvoboy (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: RE: 1965 Lady Kenmore Washer Found
MESSAGE: Hi Scott / Hi Keith-
My mom used to make a paste of detergent and water that she'd place on a stain and then rub it in with the scrubber cap during the beginning of the wash. Then you'd toss the item in with the rest of the clothes. That was on our '65 Kenmore Model 70. Our cap was identical to the gold one in the pic except for being black. The measuring cup/cover was clear plastic.
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Post# 31089-7/18/2003-22:29 ||| Straightboy (michigan)
SUBJECT: Repair Questions
MESSAGE: The repair gu-ru has arrived. I will answer your repair questions. 15 years experience repairing all home appliances. Bring it on. For those of you that wear a turban, it is wash day, and I am bringing the MAYTAG.
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Post# 31090-7/18/2003-23:27 ||| jgp57 (dearborn michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Repair Questions (kitchen aid)
MESSAGE: would you please buy me an old kitchen aid mixer? you are the BEST? jgp57
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Post# 31091-7/19/2003-00:53 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: Howdy Everyone
MESSAGE: Hi There,
I have been really busy latly and haven't been able to post as much as I could previously. Not only that but work changed their servers so We cannot use any "unapproved websites" for our personal use. So I'm screwed over not being able to write you all more often.
I still am bird dogging for any older Westinghouse Laundromats that are not TOO old...from 1963-1974 that are close to me here in Michigan. Remember if it's in decent shape I'm interested.
All take care and will talk soon.
Chad
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Post# 31092-7/19/2003-01:09 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Repair Questions
MESSAGE: You've had a lot of experience with the classics too? That should prove helpful - welcome!
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Post# 31093-7/19/2003-01:54 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Screw The Dryer But Save That Washer! (White-Westinghouse laundry pair)
MESSAGE: Wherever those machines were, they look like they got a LOT of use.
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Post# 31094-7/19/2003-02:33 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: Elderly Solid State Lady K
MESSAGE: After living with my 1978 Lady K all these years, I'm starting to see why people give up and go out and buy new appliances. If I was just an average person depending on service people to keep it going, it would have been long gone. This machine has supported a household of never less than 5 people since new, so I guess it's deserving of it's little failures. It's so far beyond it's normal design life that little things are starting to fail that normally are still good when most machines are scrapped. The main thing that seems to fail on them is the pumps, no biggie, cheap and easy to replace. But now I'm starting to see things I've never had to replace any previous Kenmore I've worked on through the years start to fail on this machine. Example, the kickout/unbalance switch literally had a meltdown recently. And when's the last time you've had a water valve fail? Now, the spin solenoid on the wig wag has failed, I've NEVER seen one of those fail before. The bad thing is that it's an integral part of the wig wag and can't be purchased separately, and it's a $40 part. While I was on Sears site, I checked the price of the outer tub since when I had mine torn down last time I noticed that it's rusting from the top down to the point that some of the clips that hold the ring down have no place to latch anymore. Sells for $229. The timer touchpad (just the PAD, not the timer circuit board itself) was $150. But, my love is unwavering, I'm gonna see it through.
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Post# 31095-7/19/2003-06:12 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Elderly Solid State Lady K
MESSAGE: When you repair these machines for a living you see the same problems every day. It's nothing new.
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Post# 31096-7/19/2003-10:53 ||| coldspot66 (South of Boston, Mass)
SUBJECT: RE: Elderly Solid State Lady K
MESSAGE: Afternoon all!
If you ever need parts for a belt drive kenmore/wp pls let me know. I repair for a living also and still have alot of parts for belt driven machines. Part of the problem now is that these machines are going on 17/18 yrs old (as they stopped production in mid 80's ) so some parts have become expensive because it is an obsolete design. Unless a pump, belt or wigwag fail (which is all that really goes wrong with them) I usually tell ppl not to fix unless the insides are in good shape. I have ALWAYS felt that w/p/kenmore made the best top loader for the money!
Would be pleased to help with any parts you may need.
John
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Post# 31097-7/19/2003-21:03 ||| straightboy (michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Repair Questions (kitchen aid)
MESSAGE: I don't even have a KA mixer.
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Post# 31098-7/19/2003-21:04 ||| straightboy (michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Repair Questions (Repairs)
MESSAGE: Some of the classice, but anything made in the last 30-40 years I have worked on.
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Post# 31099-7/19/2003-21:10 ||| straightboy (michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Elderly Solid State Lady K (Repairs)
MESSAGE: The rusty tub is nothing to worrw about, as long as the snubber is still there, it will hold down the tub top. The wigwag can be purchased with out having to buy the whole kit that includes plungers, Whirlpool part number 84867 or with plungers 89814. The touch pad rarely failed on those, it was the mircoprossor usually regardless what the repair sheet says. Most of those old boards are No Longer Available. Good luck. Most of the reapirs you mentioned were daily for me, but rare now with the direct drives out.
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Post# 31100-7/19/2003-22:44 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Repair Questions (Repairs Very cool straightboy!)
MESSAGE: Hey,
Sounds very interesting about your history!
Would love to hear about vintage machines that you run into.
Do you ever see any of the Combo W/D from the 60's and 70's?
Do tell.
Love to hear about the stories.
Brent
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Post# 31101-7/20/2003-06:32 ||| Tazman171 (Spokane, Wa)
SUBJECT: 1961 Frigidaire Deluxe Range $350
MESSAGE: Could the interested parties that were interested in buying the stove please contact me and let me know what you have decided.
Phone is 509 993 1384 and email is namzat171@yahoo.com All info was provided in the classified add. Thanks.
Asking $350
1961 Frigidaire Deluxe Range Model# RD-20-62 built buy General Motors. White in color. Everything (including the clock) works, the oven is dirty but easily cleanable. 4-burner range with removable oven tray, clock, timers, bottom and side storage drawers, cook-top light, swing out burners. Pictures available at the link below. Dimesions are 40x26x36.
LINK: http://prodecipher.netfirms.com/Frigidaire%20RD-20-62.htm
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Post# 31102-7/20/2003-09:02 ||| Jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Early 60's Lady Kenmore question
MESSAGE: I was showing a friend of mine the pics of the 65 LK, and he told me his mom had an early 60's Lady Kenmore, possibly 61-63. I don't know what they look like, and he was asking if there was a pic somewhere. Anyone have one? He also shared with me that he used to pick the nubs off of the scrubber cap, I told him from now on we will only gather at his house! LOL Thanks, Don
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Post# 31103-7/20/2003-09:32 ||| JoeEkaitis (Rialto, California, USA)
SUBJECT: Say, how about some classic microwave oven PODs?
MESSAGE: Although classic microwave ovens aren't exactly restoration fodder (too dicey unless you have the proper gear for detecting and correcting leakage, difficulty finding out-of-production magnetrons, etc.), a few ads, brochures and manuals from the original Amana Radarange and GE Versatronic would spice up the POD rotation. :)
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Post# 31104-7/20/2003-10:07 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: 1954 GE Mobile Maid DW
MESSAGE: This was a outstanding find for me. A retired judge in upper MI had it in his summer home, never used, like new. The thing is, 2 parts are missing. The back service panel with the model & serial number & on the lid there was some sort of chrome push handle for decoration. This machines works like new & is a definate keeper but was hoping if anyone had any info or pic's of this machine I'd love to see what the lid push plate looked like. This machine came complete with the owners manual. Replaced the cord & need to rebuild the water valve . This machine is the back ground in Gergm's postings. I need to get a camera because for just wanting one cool old dishwasher I ended up with a nice collection. Will post pic's when I can. Michael
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Post# 31105-7/20/2003-10:43 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Elderly Solid State Lady K (wig wag spin solenoid, timers, inconsistent parts descriptions)
MESSAGE: Actually, with or without the plungers isn't the thing that's slightly annoying, I imagine the price difference isn't much, it's the fact that the spin and agitate solenoids cannot be replaced separately.
When the machine was new, the touch panel had to be replaced under warranty, hasn't given any trouble since.
Sears shows the timer as still being available, $175.49 (as opposed to electronic timer for my same year Sears dishwasher $99, not much more than mechanical timer). As usual, they can't seem to coordinate what they call the part. On the parts diagram, it's called an "integrated circuit control assembly". When you add it to your cart for purchase, it's described as a "microcomputer". And I'm willing to bet you it's called something else on the actual box the part comes in. Had this problem when I ordered the unbalance switch recently. The repair manual calls it the "kickout/unbalance switch". The parts diagram calls it a "relay", when you buy it it's a "relay kit" and when you get the box, it's back to being a "kickout switch".
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Post# 31106-7/20/2003-10:56 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Early 60's Lady Kenmore question (61-63 Lady K)
MESSAGE: If it's like the one I rescued from a backyard, repaired and gave to my Great Aunts, has a square console, with controls on the right,2 vertical rows of cycle buttons (A,B,C, etc.)with timer knob in center lit by a 7 1/2 watt bulb from above. Filtering was pre-Magic Filter, had a metal screen that was inserted into a waterfall hole on the right side.
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Post# 31107-7/20/2003-14:57 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: DM dishwashers
MESSAGE: Is DM still around? Are they making units for anybody?
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Post# 31108-7/20/2003-15:11 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: Repairs
MESSAGE: The last repair I did on what would be considered a vintage machine was replacing the rubber inlet spray tube thingie on what was probably a late 1960s Maytag. First time I'd done that, wasn't familiar with it, interesting arrangement. The owner of the machine died shortly after.
The last modern repair was replacing the drive coupler recently on the KA that my grandmother inherited after I got the F&P. It finally broke after almost 12 years.
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Post# 31109-7/20/2003-15:45 ||| mrb627 (Atlanta GA)
SUBJECT: Has Anyone Ever Seen One Of These?
MESSAGE: This is a GE portable washer for sale on Ebay. I have never seen or even heard of one of these things before. Has anyone seen one of these in action? It might make for a cool toy to play with.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2335319447&category=20714
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Post# 31110-7/20/2003-16:48 ||| Jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire stackable
MESSAGE: A friend of mine wants to part with a Frigidaire stackable washer with electric dryer. It is model # LC248J. Does anyone have any information (age, ...) or interest in getting this machine? Let me know, Don
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Post# 31111-7/20/2003-21:08 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Early 60's Lady Kenmore question (Lady Kenmore Washers from 1961-63........)
MESSAGE: "Jetaction":
I believe if anyone has spent any amount of time here at the club over the last few years or so, that everyone should probably know what the 1963 Lady Kenmore looks like. The 1963 Lady Kenmore (which is a Model 800) has a slightly looking curve on the metal part (top and bottom) of the console. The printwork of the console starts at the left portion of it, and consumes most of the console itself. On the very right, are all of the controls that operate the machine itself. The controls themselves are two stacks of rectangular lettered push buttons (going from A through H) with a "pin-stopping" cycle timer situated in between the two vertical rows of push buttons. There is also two additional buttons below the cycle timer that control either the "Suds" cycle or the "Spin Only" functions (or maybe even both). To the very right of the console after the last row of push buttons, a red filter light is also situated (which indicates when the self-cleaning filter is operating during the wash and rinse agitation periods). The left portion of the console is illuminated. There were two of these VERY washers in my family (on both sides....... on my mother's side, one of her older sisters owned a pink one.......... and on my father's side, his mother (which is my grandmother) owned a coppertone one), so I am very much familiar with them.
Now on the other hand, I also know what the 1961 Lady Kenmore Washer looks like. Again, like the 1963 (and possibly, the 1962........... I don't have a Sears catalog from 1962, so I don't know what the 1962 Lady Kenmore looks like. Maybe someone who does know what this machine looks like can enlighten all of us here at "Classic Appliances") that has succeeded it, the 1961 Lady Kenmore also has a bare looking left portion of the console that simply says "Lady Kenmore" right on the very bottom of it. Toward the right, there are only two (horizontal) rows of "touch membranes" types of push buttons with no cycle timer anywhere on the console (sort of like the 1959-60 Lady Kenmores, but only the 1959 Lady Kenmore has the more mechanical "rocker" style of push buttons, and the 1960 tended to use "up-and-down" toggle switches (also mechanical)). But unlike the 1959-60 Lady Kenmore, the top portion of the console of those machines were illuminated. It however, does not say or indicate in my 1961 Sears catalog on whether or not the 1961 Lady Kenmore has a lighted console. Maybe it in fact does, but that wasn't indicated or described anywhere under its listing in the catalog. So, I don't have any indication on whether or not the 1961 Lady Kenmore does in fact have a lighted console.
Other than that, I have pictures of not only the Lady Kenmores that I have just described. But I also have pictures of the 1965, 1966-67, 1968 and the 1969-71 Lady Kenmores as well.
I hope that the information provided above is helpful to you.
Regards.........
--Charles--
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Post# 31112-7/20/2003-21:30 ||| Gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1954 GE Mobile Maid DW (congrads)
MESSAGE: Congrads Mike :) .............
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Post# 31113-7/20/2003-23:10 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Elderly Solid State Lady K
MESSAGE: Weird, our belt drive kenmore had a leaky water valve, a bad spin solenoid and a rusty outer tub. The pump was fine, as was the belt. The out of balance switch is just a simple switch so I can see why it could have a problem. Just wait until the agitator shaft seal kicks the bucket. That was another problem our BD had before it went to appliance heaven.
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Post# 31114-7/21/2003-00:06 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Elderly Solid State Lady K
MESSAGE: Actually, the agitator seal DID go out, and it wasn't noticed becuase our house has a low spot and the water went toward the wall instead of the front, so I wasn't aware it had failed until the water ruined the SECOND gearcase (first gearcase had to be replaced because the agitator shaft splines rusted and would hold the agitator anymore and the shaft is not available as a separate part. So now we're on gearcase #3. And get this, while I was putting in gearcase #3, I thought I'd get ahead of the game and replace the basket drive since it was original though still working just fine. So what happens, the NEW basket drive gives out and had to be replaced. So not's on basket drive #2. So let's see, it's on agitator #3 (that's what I get for trying to Mickey Mouse attaching the agitator to the rusted orginal agitator shaft). Pump #5 (be aware, the Gemline ones suck), Triple Dispenser #2, water level knob #3 (would you believe that little thing costs $19?!), water valve #2 (it didn't leak, wouldn't let any hot water in except at a trickle, took it apart, couldn't see anything that was bad).
And let's not talk about how many belts I've replaced.
So I sit and wait to see how long the motor is going to hang in there (the one in the matching dryer has already died and been replaced), its about the only major original major component.
Detergent valve (sends water to Triple Dispenser) is getting cranky now, doesn't always shut off, get a "waterfall" all through the draining/spinning phase at times which means things come out wet.
The Out of Balance switch IS actually a relay, interesting how it works. A small coil is in parallel across the contacts that carry the mail current back to the power outlet. When the switch is opened by the lever being hit by the baseplate, the current suddenly can only flow through the high resistance coil. This activates the coil and holds the switch contacts open and buzzing from the 60 cycle AC. The machine stops because the coil can't pass the current needed to operate the timer and main motors.
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Post# 31115-7/21/2003-00:12 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: DM dishwashers
MESSAGE: D & M was bought out by White Consolidated Industries, don't know which year, or if WCI still uses the D & M design in any of their products.
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Post# 31116-7/21/2003-00:24 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: DM dishwashers
MESSAGE: Only thing I can think of that might have been their design that is still sold under the Frigidaire name is the 18" compact dishwasher. That's been around for quite some time, although I don't know at what point D&M became part of WCI.
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Post# 31117-7/21/2003-00:25 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Elderly Solid State Lady K
MESSAGE: WOW, I wonder how our kenmore survived through 15 years with a family of 5. Origional pump, tranny, belt, motor, spin tube, clutch, basket and tub. Just little woosie things had to be replaced (water valve and wigwag) In terms of design, Whirlpool made BD are first in lifetime, older maytags come up close second. (however boring to watch:-(
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Post# 31118-7/21/2003-00:59 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Elderly Solid State Lady K
MESSAGE: Pardon me for interjecting here . .
My friend with the mid 1980s belt-drive Whirlpool Imperial Seventy, his machine has never had any repair far as I'm aware. Of course, he's basically a family of one.
My family's (of five) 1976 Supreme 80 went for 18 years with no mechanical tranny/drive repairs except a couple belts (I loaded that 18-pounder all the way up during its early years) and I think one pump. The timer was replaced once, the low speed motor contact failed. This is kind of interesting, because the 1962 Whirlpool it replaced went for 15 years, and had the bearings, spin tube, etc. replaced twice during that time.
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Post# 31119-7/21/2003-02:09 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities)
SUBJECT: RE: Repair Questions (kitchen aid)
MESSAGE: I have a Kitchenaid mixer. A KitchenAid mixer should be a part of everyone's appliance collection. One of those gems will bail most people out of a bread-less situation in a hurry, and mix up a good batch of meat loaf in the mean time. So liberate yourself from the Dairy Delight, and whip up some topping for your sundae on a KitchenAid!
MrCoffee
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Post# 31120-7/21/2003-03:26 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: "brand" about to retire (overseas too?)
MESSAGE: Kelvinator is a Huge name in refrigeration here in Australia.
SO too is Westinghouse, both are owned by Electrolux and manufactured in there refigeration factory in Orange in NSW.
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Post# 31121-7/21/2003-07:01 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Elderly Solid State Lady K
MESSAGE: It was pretty trouble-free up until about 11 years ago, only troubles were belts and pumps. But then, seeing the use it has gotten (and still getting)and the fact that it's WAY beyond it's normal design life, I'm not really complaining. It's just interesting to see what components fail that normally are still good when the average machine goes to scrap.
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Post# 31122-7/21/2003-07:03 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: "brand" about to retire (overseas too?)
MESSAGE: I suspect the discontinuance of the Kelvinator will affect the US only. DaimlerChrysler still uses the name DeSoto in other countries, hasn't been a DeSoto in US since 1961.
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Post# 31123-7/21/2003-07:57 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: "brand" about to retire (overseas too?)
MESSAGE: please go to sandbox to continue this discussion...I have a question.
Chris
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Post# 31124-7/21/2003-10:51 ||| Rrroost123 (Santa Rosa, Ca)
SUBJECT: RE: Modern Maid/McGraw Edison built-in toaster? (--and Nutone Food Center too)
MESSAGE: Do you still have the Nutone food center, I dropped something
on mine which is in an RV, I am not sure if I can fix it as yet, but will check it out tomorrow. If not, I will have to find one somewhere? Bob
Ps my email... rrroost123@aol.com
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Post# 31125-7/21/2003-14:11 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Modern Maid/McGraw Edison built-in toaster? (--and Nutone Food Center too)
MESSAGE: Ebay saves the day - I thought of you when I saw this yesterday, a whole lot of Nutone accessories for the Food Center.
Best of luck - Greg
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2336222586&category=20685
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Post# 31126-7/21/2003-14:22 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: 1/18 sprayed with WD-40(OW !!!!)
MESSAGE: I found a 1/18 on the side of the road last week and stopped, the guy came out of the house and I asked him if I could have the machine, he said sure, he said it leaked pretty bad and that it was still running good, but a little sqeaky, so he then proved his intelligence by telling me he sprayed the whole mechanism down with WD-40, ( I wonder if he noticed the cringed expression on my face ) he then said the machine did not work at all now, no spin but the motor runs and the agitation skipped or made a terrible racket, so he figured it was now junk. I asked if he noticed the sign right in front that said CAUTION!! DO NOT OIL MECHANISM !! , he said no, I explained what happened, needless to say how he felt. Anyways, I tried cleaning the rollers the best I could with alcohol and dry rags. That helped but the tub barely spins, obviously slipping somewhere .......... never been faced with this ........... anyways, I just sent in two rolls of film yesterday, so I should hopefully have pics up here in a week of all the stuff I have been talking about in my last few postings.
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Post# 31127-7/21/2003-14:30 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Early 60's Lady Kenmore question (Lady Kenmore Washers from 1961-63........(my'63))
MESSAGE: here are pics of my '63 if this helps .............photos 6-8
LINK: http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gregm978/vwp?.dir=/More+apps&.src=ph&.dnm=NorgeandKenmore.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gregm978/lst%3f%26.dir=/More%2bapps%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 31128-7/21/2003-18:35 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Early 60's Lady Kenmore question (Lady Kenmore Washers (my'63) photos 9-11)
MESSAGE: actually photo #'s 9-11, NOT 6-8
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Post# 31129-7/21/2003-18:47 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: Eye candy
MESSAGE: The Hotpoint website will be active very soon guys, the vids will be filmed this weekend on the 26th of July. I will let you know when its ready and give you the link best regards to one and all HBMUK
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Post# 31130-7/21/2003-18:48 ||| christfr (st louis mo)
SUBJECT: RE: 1/18 sprayed with WD-40(OW !!!!) (oh my )
MESSAGE: hey have a 65 frigidaire that seemed sluggish when i brought her home feeling the rollers they felt just a bit funny i was told by a wonderful friend sactoteddybear to try lighter fluid that seemed to help i also used some spray brake cleaner the kind we use a work and let the machine sit 24 hours then away she went she is now so strong i cant beleive it that wd40 really soaks in you may have to clean her several times good luck
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Post# 31131-7/21/2003-18:56 ||| christfr (st louis mo)
SUBJECT: RE: 1/18 sprayed with WD-40(OW !!!!)
MESSAGE: hey guy
guess i should have told you a bit more what i did was to unplug the machine and tilt it and spray the heck out of the rollers till they dripped let that dry for a few then did it again the brake cleaner we use at work is a 3m brand and it wont disolve or hurt the rollers just removes oil and grease it worked wonderfully for me and my gal
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Post# 31132-7/21/2003-21:14 ||| pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: 1/18 sprayed with WD-40(OW !!!!) (I-18 WD-?)
MESSAGE: I have an 1-18 that squeeks, where exactly are the rollers? I know now from snubbers, now rollers?
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Post# 31133-7/22/2003-05:43 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: Elderly Solid State Lady K
MESSAGE: Well, she's back up and running fine. Glad I didn't put out the $40 to Sears for the wig wag, turns out a company I'd never heard of before ( Siebe Appliance Controls, Carol Stream, IL 60188, their part number CM-169 without plungers)makes it, and I bought one from my local parts dealer for $16.85, $8.24 after sales tax. I had to smile when the clerk asked me how he could help me, I just said "Kenmore wig wag", and he went straight back to the parts room and got it, didn't even have to tell him model number, serial number, etc. I was surprised that it wasn't Gemline, who seem to have such a large share of the appliance aftermarket parts business. Again, the parts nomenclature discrepancy comes up, the bag the part comes in calls it the "control magnet", whereas the invoice I got from the store calls it a "wig wag" Oh, now that I look again, the company uses the manufacturer's part number (CM169)but Whirlpool's description and part number(WP 84867 Wig Wag). On Sear's site, putting in the part number brings it up as a "magnet", then adding it to your cart for purchase magically turns it into a "wig wag". No wonder purchasing parts for stuff can be so confusing!
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Post# 31134-7/22/2003-07:31 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Say, how about some classic microwave oven PODs? (ranges & fridges too)
MESSAGE: After pondering this for about 48 hours, I have to agree with Joe. Yes, our emphasis here is on washers & dryers and dishwashers. But what about sprinkling in in the future some pictures and ads for some stylish beauties of ranges from Frigidaire, GE, Hotpoint, Chambers, ... as well as refrigerators. Those too had some unique features and styles to tempt the homemaker during the '50s and '60s. And of course, I'd love to see more dishwashers too!!!
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Post# 31135-7/22/2003-07:46 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1/18 sprayed with WD-40(OW !!!!) (thnx ...but ???)
MESSAGE: THanks for the helpful hint, but I know that he also sprayed the heck out of the main spin shaft at the top of the "clutch" which is why I think it won't spin, the motor hums along fine, but the tub turns at about 35% of its normal speed .......... Can I spray that brake cleaner spray around and into the top of that spin clutch assembly ??? -gregm
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Post# 31136-7/22/2003-16:35 ||| christfr (st louis mo)
SUBJECT: RE: 1/18 sprayed with WD-40(OW !!!!) (thnx ...but ???)
MESSAGE: hey guy
i work for a nissan dealer and over last 24 years we have used brake cleaner to clean everything it smells icky but it drys with no film carb cleaner will melt plastics but not the brake cleaner its a very good way to clean great for removing grease and oil to clean or prep for gaskets it cant hurt to try one can i can send you some if you need or you can always try a product called electric moter cleaner does the same thing have found many uses for the car chemicals we have at work let me know chris
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Post# 31137-7/22/2003-17:13 ||| may63 (Saint Paul, MN)
SUBJECT: Dear Appi
MESSAGE: Dear Abby oops I mean Dear Appi:
I was at a summer gathering over the weekend, and apparently I steered the kitchen conversation too far into applianceville for their tastes. When I revealed I know a little more than the average person about appliances, my friend Allen said (in front of everyone) "Oh yea that's right Jim has an appliance FETISH!"
Now don't get me wrong, I love appliances and don't care who knows, but I need clarification: Do I have have an appliance fetish or just a strong interest? What's the difference between the two? Is it wrong to have an appliance fetish?
Signed,
Agitated and Spun Out
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Post# 31138-7/22/2003-20:10 ||| impellerator (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: GE Kitchen of the Future
MESSAGE: I'm cross posting here: there's someone at this site who wants to unload a complete set of pink GE Kitchen of the Future appliances, and I'll bet there's someone here who wants them!
LINK: http://www.lottaliving.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=842
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Post# 31139-7/22/2003-21:40 ||| straightboy (michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Kitchen of the Future (Old GE's )
MESSAGE: I have had the pleasure of working on these oldies. These items were made for the 1956 World's Fair. It was GE's Kitchen of the future. They made them for about 5 years beforew discontinuing production. the biggest problem with most GE items that old are parts are real scarce. Most pre 60's are No Longer Available. I have seen those in all the pastel colors used in the mid 50's
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Post# 31140-7/22/2003-21:59 ||| straightboy (michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Repair Questions (Repairs Very cool straightboy!)
MESSAGE: Not to many, I have seen a Kenmore W/D combo. Early 60's model. Unit was a front load. The customer still used the dryer cycle of the unit, but the washer cycle leaked. Frigidare was the company that had some cool items that no one else did. Beverage dispensors in ref's. The Pulsator washer, the flip up cooktops, The Flair range. All of which were the most miserable appliances to service. They were built to last, but not built for service. Had to condem a GM dishwasher the other day, 35 years old. In Michigan, everyone made appliances in the 50-60's John Deere, International Harvestor, Surburban, Preway, Philco, to name a few. Then there are the odd balls, The Chambers "Magnawave" magnetic induction cooktop. Now a days you should see some of the things people are puting in their kitchen and what some of these things cost. In some of these homes $50,000 in appliances in not unusual.
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Post# 31141-7/22/2003-23:28 ||| Ksdaddy (Caribou, ME)
SUBJECT: Please help me find lost part!
MESSAGE: A few days ago I bought a mid 50s GE Spacemaker (apartment size) stove, model # 1J245N. On the way home, the trim piece over the burner push buttons flew off. I searched (trust me, I searched the 15 miles at 15mph) but no luck. The link contained in this post is to a photo of my stove, as it is now. PLEASE help me find this part! I bought it because it was such a neat old stove, and now it's an amputee! Help! ksdaddy@yahoo.com
LINK: http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/872437/1056698952240_mystove.jpg
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Post# 31142-7/23/2003-05:30 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: A Classic Hoover toploder on German Ebay
MESSAGE: Any one farmilar with this model?
One must say it is rather nice looking. Love the big lettering on the control panel, and what settings are available on those controls?
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2336707328&category=30324
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Post# 31143-7/23/2003-09:34 ||| Steel996 (boston)
SUBJECT: looking for info on Frigidare by GM frig and Waste King Oven
MESSAGE: Hi,
New to the board and wanted to see what you guys might know about some appliances I have. I just bought a new house and it had this giant stainless steel refrigerator that is a "Fridgiare Custom Imperial by General Motors" and also a 1958 stainless steel "Waste King" model eo-1s wall oven. First, does anyone happen to know anything about this fridge (year made, model number, value, etc.), i cannot find any info on it. Also, does anyone know anything about Waste King Ovens (value, etc.) I've never heard about it before.
Thanks for any help!!
Craig
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Post# 31144-7/23/2003-15:56 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: more pics under album "latest finds" ....
MESSAGE: I have pics of the following latest finds:
1956 or 7 ?? GE 20" range
Early 50's Frigidaire 30" range
1949 GE dishwasher
1963 GE Mobile Maid
1962 Frigidaire "3-ring" (WCD-62)
1979 Frigidaire 1/18 Wshr, "last one by GM, in almond"
Not only do I feel very fortunate to have found these machines but they all look and work great (except the 1/18 - sprayed down with WD-40, uugghhh !!) I just sent in another roll of film to be developed that has a couple more pics of the 1/18 and the '62 FrigWshr ........... hope you like and enjoy.......
best regards, - gregm
LINK: http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gregm978/lst?.dir=/latest+...+...&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/&.view=t
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Post# 31145-7/23/2003-16:01 ||| christfr (st louis mo)
SUBJECT: RE: more pics under album "latest finds" ....
MESSAGE: hey you
i have the same wcd 62 washer aint she a beautiful machine looks like something the jetsons would have had the original owner changed the 3 ring to a jetcone but i loves her just the same really nice machines you have there
good luck with them all
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Post# 31146-7/23/2003-16:36 ||| Jaxie (boston MA)
SUBJECT: RE: looking for info on Frigidare by GM frig and Waste King Oven (here you go hot pants!)
MESSAGE: follow the link below...
only you and i would be posting something to the same site at the same time. too funny.
-kitten
LINK: http://www.blackout.gmu.edu/archive/life_11_19_1965/life_11_19_65_048049.html
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Post# 31147-7/23/2003-16:57 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: looking for info on Frigidare by GM frig and Waste King Oven
MESSAGE: What is the model number of your refrigerator?
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Post# 31148-7/23/2003-17:06 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: more pics under album "latest finds" ....
MESSAGE: So many cool things - good work Greg!
Those ranges are beautiful - such style, and lights too!
So how does the 62 washer work with the chunk missing from the "energy ring" ? My 1950 WO-65 had a chunk missing just like that and it seemed to work just fine.
Have fun with your new toys - they are beautiful.
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Post# 31149-7/23/2003-17:08 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Kitchen of the Future
MESSAGE: Those are wonderful kitchens, I wish I had room for one...with the combo washer/dryer of course!
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Post# 31150-7/23/2003-17:59 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Dear Appi (Party Appliance Etiquette)
MESSAGE: Dear Agitated,
Can you talk about anything else? If so, you'll be alright. Appliances are not typically discussed at length in polite party conversation, but if you interject your knowlege and enthusiasm when appropriate without monopolizing and constantly steering conversation topics back to appliance-talk, you can still be the life of the party. Your friend's comments, while not uncommon among appliance-muggles (non-appliance folk) were indeed rude and uncalled for, but we do have to excuse this to some degree because our interests here are just a little out of the mainstream of generally accepted "hobbies" and may seem foreign to many. This unfortunately draws cruel reactions from those who are more judgemental and ridgid in their definitions of individuality and freedom. Another tip; nobody likes to be told they are using their appliances incorrectly so be very careful not to become the "appliance monitor" in other's homes. Polite suggestions where appropriate are one thing, but pushing the hostess out of the way and insisting on giving a training course in loading the dishwasher is always considered rude.
Party On - Appi
Hee hee, all fun aside, I've been in similar situations where comments have been made (without any appliance topics!) and I just let them pass. I look at it as though I have just gotten a free look into that person's true charachter, smile and politely excuse myself and sneak to the laundry room for peek ;-)
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Post# 31151-7/23/2003-18:21 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: more pics under album "latest finds" .... (no pics)
MESSAGE: EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER so where are the pics ??????????
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Post# 31152-7/23/2003-18:38 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: more pics under album "latest finds" .... (no pics-Yahoo is weird, try again later!)
MESSAGE: Looks like Yahoo is having fits again. I had them up earlier and now they won't come up. Try again later, as will I, since I didn't get to go through all of them!
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Post# 31153-7/23/2003-18:46 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Dear Appi (Party Appliance Etiquette)
MESSAGE: Thank God I'm not a party person. I get stressed out when around people. The friends I do hang out with know full well that I'm a washer freak, and also a roller coaster and antique record player freak. I'm accepted even as being a little more eccentric than others. My friend Henry sure was grateful when I helped him pick a washing machine. I tried to get him to buy a non-vintage frontloader who's first name is "Sir", but being a MUGGLE he likes the violent agitation of the Kenmore triple-action agiscraper.
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Post# 31154-7/23/2003-18:47 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Dear Appi (Party Appliance Etiquette)
MESSAGE: Thank God I'm not a party person. I get stressed out when around people. The friends I do hang out with know full well that I'm a washer freak, and also a roller coaster and antique record player freak. I'm accepted even as being a little more eccentric than others. My friend Henry sure was grateful when I helped him pick a washing machine. I tried to get him to buy a non-vintage frontloader who's first name is "Sir", but being a MUGGLE he likes the violent agitation of the Kenmore triple-action agiscraper.
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Post# 31155-7/23/2003-19:07 ||| alr2903 (new orleans)
SUBJECT: RE: Dear Appi (Party Appliance Etiquette)
MESSAGE: Jasonl I had time to enjoy the whole dvd this weekend wow. The music was great. Thanks again so much.....alr. I felt like I attended the convention.
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Post# 31156-7/23/2003-21:26 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: more pics under album "latest finds" ....
MESSAGE: Once again you are amazing me on what you are finding.
Have you done a living will yet? LOL
Brent
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Post# 31157-7/23/2003-21:27 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: looking for info on Frigidare by GM frig and Waste King Oven (here you go hot pants!)
MESSAGE: What a great link!
Those were great ads.
I just wish I could see them better!
What a great world it will be in the future egh?
Thanks for that link!
Brent
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Post# 31158-7/23/2003-21:29 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Dear Appi (Party Appliance Etiquette (you are good greg))
MESSAGE: Hey Greg!
You are are really good at this!
Hum, I am seeing you as a guidance god for all of the appliance addicted people out there. I see a book coming out soon!
Great Post!
Brent
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Post# 31159-7/23/2003-21:29 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Dear Appi (Party Appliance Etiquette (you are good greg))
MESSAGE: Hey Greg!
You are are really good at this!
Hum, I am seeing you as a guidance god for all of the appliance addicted people out there. I see a book coming out soon!
Great Post!
Brent
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Post# 31160-7/23/2003-22:28 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: more pics under album "latest finds" ....
MESSAGE: Wonderful Greg! Thanks for the great pictures. Scott :)
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Post# 31161-7/24/2003-00:37 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: more pics under album "latest finds" ....
MESSAGE: Greg, I can't believe you are unearthing such great finds. You dah mayan!!! Can't wait to see more pix. Bob
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Post# 31162-7/24/2003-06:21 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: more pics under album "latest finds" .... (Great Pictures!!)
MESSAGE: Greg, Congratulations on your new treasures!! Your hard work has paid off and I am so glad that you are finding such great machines. Have fun playing with all these new finds. You deserve it. Thanks for sharing. Terry
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Post# 31163-7/24/2003-10:26 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: more pics under album "latest finds" .... (You found my Range)
MESSAGE: Wow Greg, you've found my Kitchen Range, its a '54 model. Great pictures!
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Post# 31164-7/24/2003-12:30 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: BUG
MESSAGE: Starting at post 31160, when you look at the "reponded to" post at the bottom, the header "This message is in reply to" does not contain the post number. If you click on the "Post #", you get a USnet.com search kind of page. Not pretty...
-ph
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Post# 31165-7/24/2003-13:13 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: BUG (test post)
MESSAGE: this is a test
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Post# 31166-7/24/2003-13:14 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: BUG (test post)
MESSAGE: Seems to be just a birp in that particular thread (translation: I ain't gonna worry about it).
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Post# 31167-7/24/2003-15:06 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: more pics under album "latest finds" .... (got them)
MESSAGE: Great pics I loved the 79 Frigidare, just to remind you all its still go for the vids on Saturday 26th of July. I hope they will be uploaded to my Hotpoint link on the day, oh by the way Greg you are DA MAN. SACTOTEDDYBEAR if you out there HELP
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Post# 31168-7/24/2003-15:43 ||| earthling177 (Boston, MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Dear Appi
MESSAGE: Hey there!
The answer to your question is rather simple. According to the Webster dictionary, one of the meanings of fetish is "an object or bodily part whose real or fantasied presence is psychologically necessary for sexual gratification and that is an object of fixation to the extent that it may interfere with complete sexual expression" -- so, ask yourself if appliances fall under that category for you... ;-P Either way, I don't suppose you will have much success correcting them in the middle of a party by telling them that appliances are not necessary for your sexual gratification... :-)
It might help to know that a large part of the population is afflicted by a disease that reverses a few values inside their brains -- this illness can be acquired by peer pressure, or even from just hearing over and over about what the values "should be" in your own brains. It's a hard to cure disease in that you need to artificially drop the afflicted people straight into a controlled environment that completely simulates life about 100-250 years ago, with no electricity, antibiotics, dentistry, anesthetics, running water, sewer, appliances etc. (With any luck, a long camping trip or vacations in 3rd World countries might help too.) When they come back to our normal life after a couple of months, they completely stop thinking of appliances like dishwashers, washers, dryers, vacuum cleaners etc as a "chore" that is "hard and unpleasant" and start loving them for how much effort and time they save (just the view, btw, that people had when the appliances were initially released). I hear that the family that did the "1900 Home" thing in England was seen kissing their dishwasher, washer, dryer etc. and that one of the kids now loves vacuum cleaners. ;-)
Cheers,
-- Paulo.
PS: this reminds me of a person I knew who was complaining *bitterly* about how long QuarkXpress (a layout program) was taking to flow text around a complex picture -- this was in 1988 or so, with the TOL computers that ran at all of maybe 10MHz or so -- his boss told him that if he was gonna bitch about the computer taking 30 seconds to do that page, he was more than welcome to go back to the manual paste up table and take about 20 minutes to do it manually. The person never complained about the computer again as far as I know.
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Post# 31169-7/24/2003-17:08 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Dear Appi
MESSAGE: Well, I do know of a member who thinks of a certain era of GE MobileMaid dishwshers as a source of "gratification" and wants one just to relive that portion of his youth. :)
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Post# 31170-7/24/2003-17:31 ||| may63 (Saint Paul, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: Dear Appi (Party Appliance Etiquette)
MESSAGE: Thanks to all "Appi's" for the responses!
Perhaps the book would be called "Harry Hotpoint and the 3-Ring"?
As far as muggles loading dishwashers, here's a short but true story: last summer a friend had a small group of us over for the weekend. While watching the host load the dishwasher after a meal, I noticed he was obviously struggling. I wasn't rude I swear!...I was just watching and slightly smirking. He took one look at me, looked at the mess in the dishwasher, and said: I know you can fix this...have at it!" I said nothing but dove in and waved my wand as I was meant to do...soon the '70's Whirlpool was contentedly humming along and all was well with the world!
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Post# 31171-7/24/2003-19:08 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: more pics under album "latest finds" .... (chunk missing)
MESSAGE: Judging by the look and feel, you would think that this so called "chunk" was missing on purpose, but it does NOT affect performance at all, it works great :)
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Post# 31172-7/24/2003-19:09 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: more pics under album "latest finds" .... (no pics(in post # 31144))
MESSAGE: go to post # 31144 and click on the link
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Post# 31173-7/24/2003-19:14 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: more pics under album "latest finds" .... (got them(thanks all for comments))
MESSAGE: thanks all for your comments, :) .......... happy to share the pics and glad you enjoyed them ...........
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Post# 31174-7/24/2003-19:58 ||| mrb627 (Atlanta GA)
SUBJECT: Question:Why did solid tub washers die?
MESSAGE: What was it exactly that initiated the death of the solid tub, timed fill, washing machine? What was so wrong with the design that it failed? What replaced it? Why can't we bring it back?
Just curious...
Malcolm
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Post# 31175-7/24/2003-20:38 ||| Mrsee (Ft Worth Texas)
SUBJECT: Appliance Convention
MESSAGE: Hello does anyone know where the mext appliance convention will held? I would like to know when and where.
Contact me at mrsee@aol.com
Thanks
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Post# 31176-7/24/2003-20:50 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: more pics under album "latest finds" .... (chunk missing)
MESSAGE: Robert and I joked while playing with my WO-65 that it would be funny if that worn/cut away chunk from the pulsator was all it took to solve Frigidaire's tangling woes...
But alas, it was not to be -
LINK: http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Frigidaire&.src=ph&.dnm=OH+NO!!.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Frigidaire%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 31177-7/24/2003-20:55 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: 7/23 POD
MESSAGE: Wow, that's the exact machine my Grandmother had what year is that GE? It sat brand new in my room for years and didn't actually get used until 1960. It didn't last very long, by 1964 the big rubber diaphram in the bottom of the outer tub began to leak and it was never fixed, it sat there unused until about 1997 when it was disposed of. She would never let me repair it, actually got mad at me when I suggested it, said she was going to buy a new wahser, but never did before her death this past December.
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Post# 31178-7/24/2003-20:59 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Question:Why did solid tub washers die?
MESSAGE: Probably a number of factors led to the demise of the solid tub washer - capacity limitations leading them off. Today, energy and water factors would play a large part in their demise.
Just out of curiosity, we should apply the newer 'factoring' equations to the stats of some of our classics to see how they rate in comparison with the new HE class of machines. It would be interesting to see - just for fun. Anyone know where to find these factoring formulas?
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Post# 31179-7/25/2003-01:13 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: other roll of film just added ......
MESSAGE: pics 15-29 are a continuation of what I posted a day or two ago.........
LINK: http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gregm978/vwp?.dir=/latest+...+...&.src=ph&.dnm=%27+47+EASY+spin+tub.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gregm978/lst%3f%26.dir=/latest%2b...%2b...%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 31180-7/25/2003-01:20 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: pics resolution
MESSAGE: I paid for and downloaded "high resolution" off the internet after having Mystic Color Lab in CT develop my pics, the downloaded photos on my hard drive are crystal clear but I lose some of the clarity and resolution when I upload to yahoo??? hmmmmm........
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Post# 31181-7/25/2003-01:22 ||| Gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: EASY turnover
MESSAGE: The EASY has excellent turnover washing, next to the Frigidaire, better than any of my other machines ......
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Post# 31182-7/25/2003-01:39 ||| washerlover (northern California)
SUBJECT: RE: Appliance Convention (When and Where?)
MESSAGE: Is there going to be an appliance convention this year? Please let us know if anyone is working on it and if not, I'd love to help out if possible to set it up.
Maybe we can do one here out west somewhere?
Anyone have any thoughts?
Thanks,
Todd
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Post# 31183-7/25/2003-01:42 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: EASY turnover
MESSAGE: Wonderful pictures Greg! It's fun to see some pictures of your machines running. I think the picture hosts shrink the pictures down and you lose some resolution; I know Picturetrail does that. Regardless, they do come across very clear on the computer screen. Scott
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Post# 31184-7/25/2003-01:57 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: other roll of film just added ......
MESSAGE: Awesome pics of the Easy in action - those are one of the machines that I would love to try sometime. A friend of my grandmother had one and I always wanted to play but was never allowed.
Your Frigidaires seem to be in great condition - you certainly have found some great stuff this summer.
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Post# 31185-7/25/2003-03:36 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: other roll of film just added ...... (WOW)
MESSAGE: Nice one greg loved them especally the easy washer in action hbmuk
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Post# 31186-7/25/2003-05:13 ||| lewlew00 (san francisco)
SUBJECT: Need more info on 1950's General Electric Refrigerator -
MESSAGE: Hi there.
I have this nifty vintage GE refrigerator. Appears to be early 1950's (Model # NC-8-DC).
I've called GE, sent some emails, and still cannot find any info on the manufacture date. Model # and Refrigerator very similar to 1953 model but not quite the same. Help! I would like to sell the thing, but need to know the manufacture year.
Experts? Leads? Thanks. Send email to: lauralaura@consultant.com
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Post# 31187-7/25/2003-05:58 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Appliance Convention (CASE Wash_In)
MESSAGE: This is not a convention, but a reunion of sorts. The South East members are meeting in Augusta, GA the 24-26th of October, to do wash and again, I would like to extend the invitation to members out of our region.
Please e-mail me at applianceville@comcast.net to be placed on the C.A.S.E. mailing list.
C.A.S.E. = Classic Appliances South East
Steve1-18
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Post# 31188-7/25/2003-05:59 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Appliance Convention (When and Where? October in Augusta, GA )
MESSAGE: This is not a convention, but a reunion of sorts. The South East members are meeting in Augusta, GA the 24-26th of October, to do wash and again, I would like to extend the invitation to members out of our region.
Please e-mail me at applianceville@comcast.net to be placed on the C.A.S.E. mailing list.
C.A.S.E. = Classic Appliances South East
Steve1-18
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Post# 31189-7/25/2003-06:12 ||| mrb627 (Atlanta GA)
SUBJECT: Speaking of EASY
MESSAGE: Here is one on Ebay...
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3234932483&category=20714
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Post# 31190-7/25/2003-08:13 ||| Gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: EASY turnover (good to hear)
MESSAGE: thanks Scott !! Hope your enjoying your summer .........
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Post# 31191-7/25/2003-08:15 ||| Gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: other roll of film just added ...... (thnx G)
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg, yea, I am VERY lucky ......... and grateful. But I have worked hard at contacting everyone under the sun, including making up business cards, handing out photos of what I am looking for, very few help, but those few have obviously contributed significantly to my collection.
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Post# 31192-7/25/2003-08:18 ||| Gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: other roll of film just added ...... (WOW, great turnover)
MESSAGE: thnx, yea, the easy is very cool to watch it literally suck the clothes down to the bottom of the tub, if you drop a sock in the middle it will be turned over in less than 30 seconds, it does not just go back and forth like a Maytag, even though I like the Maytags, they are just a little more boring to watch
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Post# 31193-7/25/2003-09:15 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: EASY turnover (its a wonderful machine )
MESSAGE: Greg
I had reconditioned one that was in service constantly for 5 years. It had such a rhythm. Wonderful washing abilities mine also had the rinse and spin feature where I could recapture the rinse water for the next wash. Things came amazingly dry also from the spinner. I am in search of one again. Enjoy your finds and thanks for sharing
Philippe
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Post# 31194-7/25/2003-10:43 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of EASY
MESSAGE: Interesting. I'm surprised to see it has an agitator, I would have expected one of this vintage to have that suction cup mechanism. I wonder if they sold different models both ways?
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Post# 31195-7/25/2003-11:50 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: other roll of film just added ......
MESSAGE: Love 'em, love 'em, love 'em!!! (but not in a fetish kind of way...)
The '62 is just spectacular, and the '68 with the Imperial type of fabricmatic controls! In the '79 TechTalk, that 1-18 looks rather like the ugly duckling of the bunch, but in real life it is really quite handsome.
-ph
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Post# 31196-7/25/2003-11:54 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: EASY turnover (its a wonderful machine )
MESSAGE: Seems like it is obligatory that most antique stores in the Atlanta area must have at least one Easy Spindrier on the floor. There are lots of them around it seems...
-ph
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Post# 31197-7/25/2003-12:37 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: other roll of film just added ......
MESSAGE: Greg, outstanding pictures. I loved all the washing pics. I've NEVER seen an Easy at all, except for advertisements. Fascinating. But of course, you know me, other than front loaders, I'm extremely partial to Frigidaires!!! Loved those pics. That 1968 looks almost brand new. And te 1979 in almond, a rare find and kinda handsome specimine. You are truely fortunate to have found such finds. Keep unearthing these finds. Wash on dude wash on!!!! And cook and do dishes too LOL. You did a great job on the GE portable dishwasher too. Bob
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Post# 31198-7/25/2003-13:21 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: EASY turnover (its a wonderful machine (thnx))
MESSAGE: Thanks Phillipe, Peter said in a later post that there are EASY washers out there in the Atlanta area, that cannot be to far from you ?? Best regards, gregm
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Post# 31199-7/25/2003-13:24 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of EASY (agitator)
MESSAGE: Scott, I was told that mine was a ' 47 and that was possibly the first or second year that they used what they called the "spiralator" agitator, and vs. a straight fin, it does a great job at turnover, the only thing I have ever seen similar in more modern machines were in GE washers in the eighties, that had the same three downward slides/slopes....
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Post# 31200-7/25/2003-13:26 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: other roll of film just added ...... ((thnx))
MESSAGE: thanks peter, yea, the ' 79 1/18 is not the pick of the litter but yet I like the fact that it represents one of the last models to be made by GM and the introduction of the almond color ...........
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Post# 31201-7/25/2003-14:04 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Speaking of EASY (agitators)
MESSAGE: The GE and the Westinghouse ramp agitators have more of a vertical fin that wrapped around the center post; the fins stand straight up from the base. The Easy Spiralator and the Hotpoint have agitator fins the were more horizontal to the center post; they curve down into the base. I always thought the Hotpoint and the Easy would be more gentle on clothes because of the orientation of the fins.
-ph
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Post# 31202-7/25/2003-14:07 ||| Activator (Tulsa, OK)
SUBJECT: Easy DUZ it better, yes?
MESSAGE: Yep...it's nice to have it confirmed:
"From the flimsiest of fabrics
To the grimiest work shirt,
Easy Spirolator washing action
Gets out all the dirt!
(Any thing that you can wash
--Easy does it better.)"
And you're right, because my old GE that "passed away" had that same curvaceous agitator which made for tremendous water movement, even on slow speed.
It must be FABulous to actually own a true vintage machine; I guess antique if it's a '47. I miss the GE, even tho' I love my new machines. At least, I have the mini basket, fabric softener dispenser, and the lint "hat" as keepsakes...
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Post# 31203-7/25/2003-14:09 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: other roll of film just added ...... (1979)
MESSAGE: From the Tech-Talk, it looks like Frigidaire started experimenting with different graphics to update their control panel. This one looks wierd to me because of how the Knit cycle graphics are split in two between each side of the control panel. Like I said, tho', the machine looks better in person than in the Tech-Talk! The next model up from this one has a black panel with a big round timer dial graphic -- very bold -- and the fabricmatic options just like the Custom Imperial! I think yours is a WS-6G and the next one up was the WS-7G?
-ph
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Post# 31204-7/25/2003-14:18 ||| Activator (Tulsa, OK)
SUBJECT: True Confession re: the turquoise Leonard agitator's fate
MESSAGE:
This is sort of a deviation within topic, so I'll try to be brief. I apologize if I'm repeating myself again and again...
Years ago I bought a Leonard (Kelvinator) agitator from a used appliance dealer/salvage place, along with two matching black straight-vane agitators, maybe from early SQ machines.
I put candles into the black agitators (after, of course, trying to make the bathtub into a washer with one of them, then BOTH of them. I had arm muscles in those days). They graced the dining table for several months and caused many conversations, some of which included words like "Librium" and "Bellvue".
BUT my piece de resistance was my Kelvinator Rocket Lamp. I painstakingly inserted individual miniature Christmas lights through each and every hole in that massive agitator, securing them with tape. When it was lit, it was breathtaking! I had to sell it in a garage sale for three dollars because money was so tight.
I know I'm both tasteless and in my dotage, but I'd sure like to re-create that Kelvinator lamp...too bad about the Agitator Famine...
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Post# 31205-7/25/2003-15:04 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: True Confession re: the turquoise Leonard agitator's fate
MESSAGE: Activator,
Loved it!! Christmas tree lights! The wheels are turning! What about putting one of those mini waterproof halogens in between the tubs of a two tub (perf)washer? Wash cycle might not be much, but imagine what the clear rinse could look like! Better than a mirror ball.
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Post# 31206-7/25/2003-17:16 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: other roll of film just added ...... ((thnx))
MESSAGE: Hey Greg on the pics of those dish washers, being a young 40 year old I have only ever know the spray type dish washers, how dose that style of dishwasher work. Does the water get circulated via a rotar/propellar in a large tub, please tell me HBMUK
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Post# 31207-7/25/2003-22:25 ||| Jimcastleman (Wild and Wonderful)
SUBJECT: FLAIR Electric Range - Model RCIB-635
MESSAGE: HELP! Need lower oven heating element. ty call COLLECT 304.267.5842 OR email @ jimcastleman@msn.com
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Post# 31208-7/25/2003-22:41 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: other roll of film just added ...... ((thnx))
MESSAGE: Hi Greg, Really enjoyed the last set of pictures that you posted too. Thanks so much for sharing them with us. Your collection is growing so fast!! Loved the action shot of the Easy!! I am sure that is a fun machine to use. Did you do the paint job on the GE dishwasher yourself? Looks fantastic. Terry
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Post# 31209-7/26/2003-00:44 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day....
MESSAGE: The hot color this summer season in Omaha is Avocado Green.
I found Don's 65 Lady Kenmore last week and now this week, a 1969 Montgomery Ward Signature 18lb. washer and matching dryer. I wasn't too thrilled about the green when I found them last night, but after spending some quality time with them today, they have grown on me quite a bit. They are in wonderful shape, only very minor repairs so far and cosmetically they are in amazing condition. Both seem to run fine, but I'd forgotten how noisy these old Norges were! The clanging and banging of solenoids, the rythmic whine of the transmission and the dryer's windtunnel sound from the 18 5/8" fan behind the drum makes for quite a (loud) symphony.
This washer has the recirculating filter at the back of the tub and the giant 18" agitator in gleaming white. The filter pan was missing, but I had picked one of these up at the farm in South Dakota so there was one here waiting - a premonition maybe? It washes great, strong agitation and with "nine rinses" gulps a lot of water, but with redeeming style and drama. The dryer is enormous, the monster sized console seems even more grand and luxurious on a 31" cabinet.
Here's some pics of both machines -
LINK: http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Montgomery+Ward&.src=ph&.dnm=1969+Montgomery+Ward+Signature.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Montgomery%2bWard%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 31210-7/26/2003-00:46 ||| lewlew00 (san francisco)
SUBJECT: Help!
MESSAGE: Trying to find out manufacture date of General Electric Refrigerator: Model # NC-8-DC
email me: wesoff@earthlink.net
see photos:
http://home.earthlink.net/~wesoff/images/Lew's%20pictures%20001.jpg
http://home.earthlink.net/~wesoff/images/Lew's%20pictures%20002.jpg
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Post# 31211-7/26/2003-01:30 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day....
MESSAGE: That's very cool! The green of course would have been very hip when these machines were made. You just don't see a whole lot of the Wards machines with the slant-back console anymore, fun find!
...8 of the 9 rinses are just sprays, like a belt drive Sears, right?
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Post# 31212-7/26/2003-01:59 ||| Activator (Tulsa, OK)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (Activator is "
green"
with envy...)
MESSAGE: Congratulations on a fantabulous find! That brings back a ton of memories. When I was young, I found that lint-trap pan fascinating, and every time I made it into a "Monkey Wards", you could bet I'd make a beeline for the washers. That agitator has classic lines. Did I correctly interpret that Norge manufactured the Signature line?
I seem to remember Temp Master having a similar shaped 'tator, but no lint pan...and of course, GE had straight vane agitators at one point, but I don't remember quite so much width in those upper fins on GE's.
Looking at that Signature, I could smell the aroma of OTASCO and Western Auto, both of which sold major appliances as well as tires. That was the smell of happiness for me as a bratty little eight-year-old, eclipsed only by detergents, bleach and the cooking starch on the stove at my grandmother's house.
This machine is the type I always tried to draw pictures of. Any chance of generating some video?
My only "Signature Experience" happened several years ago when I was feeding the dogs for the friend/landlord of a friend. The house had a huge old Signature washer, probably very early 60's...with a black agitator. Of COURSE, while Fido was eating, I ran a load of water just to watch it work. Tidal waves, that's what it made! And noisy...you bet. It sounded like someone was warming up for the Anvil Chorus down there...but it was great fun anyway and the people never found out.
Frankly, if I am EVER left unsupervised with a washing machine, chances are excellent that I will run at least a few minutes of the wash cycle (after finding a way to disable those pesky safety devices). No washer is safe with Activator around!
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Post# 31213-7/26/2003-02:33 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day....
MESSAGE: I am constantly amazed at how you guys find all these FABULOUS machines!
If you ever have a need to sell a couple, give me ring . . . if there's a way to get them down here, I imagine I can find *somewhere* to keep them.
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Post# 31214-7/26/2003-03:37 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: Vintage Kenmore Auction - non-automatic
MESSAGE: Looks like it could be fun.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2547855721&category=364
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Post# 31215-7/26/2003-03:44 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day....
MESSAGE: Wow Greg, what a big machines. You can start taking laundry in when you weren't already doing that. Lovely machines to play with I bet.
BTW, is that your garage? If so, your garage and my guestroom have something in common.. too small!!! LOL. I see you even started saving some newer classics like the Maytag Dependable Care. How many washers and dryers do you have at the moment?
Take care,
Louis
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Post# 31216-7/26/2003-05:35 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: True Confession re: the turquoise Leonard agitator's fate
MESSAGE: I would like to find those small mirror Mosaic tiles to decorate an old agitator with them and use the agitator as a disco ball.
Of course, it would not be a classic agitator. Perhaps one from a WCI Frigidaire.
Steve1-18
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Post# 31217-7/26/2003-07:37 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: Hotpoint vids done
MESSAGE: Hi Guys the Hotpoint vids are done, but wait before you rush off to the site. They should be up and running by the end of next week 2nd of August UK TIME. Oh by the way watch out for the fun and very untimly blooper at the end, regards to all hbmuk
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Post# 31218-7/26/2003-08:00 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (DOHHHHHH NO PICS )
MESSAGE: Oh oh where are the pics, seems the gremlins are out to get ya.
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Post# 31219-7/26/2003-14:19 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day....
MESSAGE: You're right, four 7 second spray rinses before the deep rinse and four sprays after. It's lots 'o fun to watch!
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Post# 31220-7/26/2003-14:23 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (vintage washers)
MESSAGE: hi greg....is there a large supply of vintage washers
there in omaha??....the only thing here in
southern california is california appliance
recycling factory....most of their machines are
relatively modern....they do have the only
mechanic willing to work on my old machines....
he got maytag wringer washer working as well as
westinghouse slant front...he is still working on
1947 bendix and late 1960's frigidaire jetcone....
of course, the problem is getting parts....they have
to have a new impeller for the pump custom made for
the jetcone....
i would like to find a norge top loader in working
order...and an early 1950's thor automagic...
have you seen any of those??
ross roberts.....in palm springs, california
nycaross@aol.com
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Post# 31221-7/26/2003-14:23 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (Activator is )
MESSAGE: Yup, these are made by Norge. In the '69 Wards catalog, all the washers and dryers were Norge made. Sometime in the early 70's, they carried the Norge 20lb washers and the smaller top & front load models were made by Westinghouse. I too remember the trips to Monkey Wards and being thrilled with the machines they had running in the store - the front loader, the burp-up filter washer, quite a thrill!
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Post# 31222-7/26/2003-14:34 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day....
MESSAGE: You are right about not enough space! There is a total of 47 appliances on the property right now. I've actually called a friend about renting a garage at an apartment complex for some off-site storage. I held off for as long as I could but I just have too much stuff and will really want the garage to park the van in with the winter cold and snows.
The "newer" washers in the garage are ones that I've found, repair and sell. I've done pretty well so far and the extra money helps support my ever growing hobby too!
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Post# 31223-7/26/2003-14:47 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: 1954 GE Mobile Maid
MESSAGE: Does anyone out there have a 54 GE dishwasher ? I would like to get some feedback about this way far out cool machine. mikepaquette@sympatico.ca
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Post# 31224-7/26/2003-15:09 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (vintage washers)
MESSAGE: I've been lucky to stumble upon a few vintage machines lately, and working the small towns in the surrounding states has been even more fruitful. In addition to the machines, parts and service lit. are always good finds too. This is the first "Norge" machine I've found that was older than the early 80's and other than the "Pioneer Village" museum, I have never seen anything made by Thor. The Automagic is a very cool machine, it would be a great find and a dream come true to find one with the dishwasher tub!
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Post# 31225-7/26/2003-15:33 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (Thats a big one )
MESSAGE: mmmmmmmmmmmmm Greg thats a big one MMMMMMMMMMMMMM LOL I mean the washer (FILTHY MINDS YOU GOT) The pics are great regards to all hbmuk
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Post# 31226-7/26/2003-16:08 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: 1968 DCDAN Dryer on Ebay
MESSAGE: With a 'free' GE range too!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2337342718&category=43564
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Post# 31227-7/26/2003-18:39 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: 1965-66 Lady Kenmore Gas Dryer on "e-bay"
MESSAGE: To those of you who may be interested, I am getting ready to go out somewhere, but I just want to let anyone who is interested know about something.
For those of you who already have a 1965-66 Lady Kenmore Washer, there is a 1965-66 Lady Kenmore Gas Dryer available on "e-bay". I have forgotten where it is at (see next post). But I will go back now and get the location.
I don't quite know how to do the "link" thingy yet. So I cannot leave a link for you. The best I can do is tell you to go to "e-bay" and type in "Lady Kenmore" in the "location box" on the upper right of the screen, and press "enter". The link to the dryer should show up after that.
I am going to find that location for you right now. Will be back with where the dryer is located when I return.
--Charles--
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Post# 31228-7/26/2003-18:43 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: 1965-66 Lady Kenmore Gas Dryer on "e-bay" (My Mistake..... This is a 1964 Lady Kenmore Gas Dryer......)
MESSAGE: But anyway......... back with where the dryer is located. The dryer is located in Des Plaines, Illinois (somewhere in the Chicago area).
If anyone is interested, check it out.........
Gotta Go Now.........
Later.........
Peace!!!!!!!
--Charles--
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Post# 31229-7/26/2003-21:02 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (Wow Greg!)
MESSAGE: Greg,
I can't get over the machines that you guys are finding!
Now you are finding them in sets! These are in amazing shape! Thanks for the pictures.
When I was a kid back in the 70's, one of our neighbors had this exact set! They dryer was gas however. I remember once watching them do a load. The lady of the house told me that when they were done, I could put them in the dryer for her. (I think back at how cool she was that she knew I had this washer bug, and thought it was cute.) I was so excited. When I turned on the dryer, after about 5 minutes, I got curious and wanted to see the burner working. I was shocked when I opened the little door, and saw that it was a flat burner, and not an "in-shot" burner like the rest of the gas dryers that I had watched work. I would now love to know how the heater box worked. Do you have workshop books on the Norge models?
Have you used the dryer yet? Can't wait to hear what you think about it. Is the drum the same size as your GE Americana dryer? It looks huge!
Thanks again.
Brent
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Post# 31230-7/26/2003-21:03 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: True Confession re: the turquoise Leonard agitator's fate (Great Idea Steve!)
MESSAGE: Steve,
I think that is a great idea.
If you did not feel guilty about decorating the vintage stuff, I could see one of those huge sprinkle balls as smaller disco balls!
Brent
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Post# 31231-7/26/2003-21:06 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (Would love to see one.)
MESSAGE: Greg,
Do you remember what the front loaders for Wards looked like?
Were they just a Westinghouse washer with the Signature label on it?
Brent
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Post# 31232-7/26/2003-21:06 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day....
MESSAGE: Greg, AHHHHH!! They're gorgeous. I'm almost ready to board a plane to Omaha to get my "modern" Norge "fix". How's the rinsing with those 8 spray rinses and the deep rinse??? That dryer is incredible. Wish I had a drum that large!! Not surprising that model didn't have auto-dry cycle. But what a FULL-FEATURED pair. What more can a laundry expert ask for???!! They are keepers!!!!
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Post# 31233-7/26/2003-21:09 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1965-66 Lady Kenmore Gas Dryer on "e-bay"
MESSAGE: I think this might be even earlier - maybe 63 or 64? The 65 models had the buttons above the timer dial and different lights on them.
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Post# 31234-7/26/2003-21:17 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (Cool Avocado)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg,
What a great set - my grandmother had a '73 mont ward set
It had the burp up filter with the blue softner dispensor on top of it. Nice machine but noisy.
Peter
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Post# 31235-7/26/2003-21:17 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (Wow Greg!)
MESSAGE: And to think I nearly left the dryer behind! I did stand and debate the dryer for a minute or two, but I just couldn't leave the match behind - the washer might get lonely for it's mate after being together all these years ;-)
The burner you are talking about sounds like the one in my '54 Speed Queen dryer, simply just a cast iron tube (or tubes) with holes/jets in it like a gas range or oven burner. Air is pulled over the heat source and through the drum.
I haven't really "used" the dryer yet, when I was playing with it last night, I busted it! I tried to change from tumble to no tumble and the belt snapped off the idler. As with any vintage dryer, it needs to be pulled apart and checked over and thoroughly cleaned so I will do that first. It was over 100 outside today so I didn't get much of that done. I did run the washer again though - I had to fix the bleach dispenser hose, the filter nozzle was 1/2 plugged and the inlet water hose was askew, spraying a mist all over inside the cabinet so I wanted to make sure it ran perfectly - before I put it I don't know where...I'm out of room!
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Post# 31236-7/26/2003-21:47 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day....
MESSAGE: I think the rinsing is pretty good, it should be for all the water it uses! I thought the extraction was pretty good all things considered.
This dryer model was the "not shown" in the catalog, but the others above it did have the auto dry cycles.
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Post# 31237-7/26/2003-22:17 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (great finds!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg, What a neat pair you found this time. They look like they are in wonderful shape and so clean, did you have to do much clean up on them? I love the little lights under the console on each of them. That dryer drum looks huge. I will be interested in your opinion after you use it? Is it bigger than your Kenmore that you use often? Hope that you can find a spot for these gems!! Keep cool!!
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Post# 31238-7/27/2003-17:39 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: oh my
MESSAGE: Why is the cyber museum down, I can not get my fix now that I am a washer nut LOL. I have had confirmation that the Hotpoint vids will be on my Hotpoint website on the 2nd of August, Also watch out for a very untimly blooper which will make you smile regards to one and all hmbuk
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Post# 31239-7/27/2003-18:45 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: other roll of film just added ...... (1979 (model #))
MESSAGE: Hey Peter the model # definately says WS-8G ......
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Post# 31240-7/27/2003-18:48 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: other roll of film just added ...... ((thnx))
MESSAGE: there is an impeller in the bottom, I did post a pic of the impeller but being black, it was not clearly defined in the posted pic. It looks like a fan blade somewhat, but looks like it could scoop up and throw the water which is exactly what it does, the plates that you put in the bottom rack are placed such that the spray reaches the upper rack as well. These dishwashers work best with 160 degree water and pre-rinsing. Anything burnt-on or stuck on food, I don't believe would come clean ..........
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Post# 31241-7/27/2003-18:51 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: other roll of film just added ...... ((thnx-Terry!))
MESSAGE: yes, I did paint the lid and bottom half, the upper half and inside tub are porcelain. The paint came out very good. I still need to perfect my painting skills. Glad you enjoyed the pics. I am so thrilled myself as well :) I hope to actually post a video clip of the easy, that was one of my first finds a year ago. Great machine !!
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Post# 31242-7/27/2003-18:57 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (love the pics Greg!!)
MESSAGE: Greg, great pics, those definately have curb appeal, :), I am not a huge fan of avocado but yet, I like those machines alot.
Good for you ...........
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Post# 31243-7/27/2003-19:30 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: 1965-66 Lady Kenmore Gas Dryer on "e-bay"
MESSAGE: "Gansky1":
I did make the mistake yesterday, and followed the mistake up with the correction in the VERY next post after that.
The dryer in question is a 1964 model.
--Charles--
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Post# 31244-7/28/2003-02:29 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: Dryer almost twice as big as the washer??
MESSAGE: Look at how big the dryer is compared to the washer! I know the halo of heat models are quite a bit larger than regular dryers (yet they have a small drum since the blower cuts in on its space at the back) But this halo looks huge (even for halos) Hopefully this set is vintage enough.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2337716262&category=20714
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Post# 31245-7/28/2003-07:08 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (Cool Avocado)
MESSAGE: I worked at Montgomery Wards in the 70's and I remember the burp-up filter and the noisy tub brake. One of the features Wards touted was that they had the largest agitator arc in the industry at the time. On the other hand, the "burp-up filter was sort of a cheapening, since I'm sure the water pump could move a lot more gpm during the course of a wash cycle than the agitator could by going back and forth.
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Post# 31246-7/28/2003-07:11 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (breaking up a set)
MESSAGE: Gee, I wouldn't have the heart to break up a matching set UNLESS, the dryer or washer weren't equal to each other in the model lineup. I do insist on that much.
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Post# 31247-7/28/2003-08:34 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (Great Find!)
MESSAGE: What a great fun find Greg! I was expecting to see a light blue agitator but maybe in 69 they changed it to white. Great lights too. It's interesting note that the exact same filter flume was turned into the water fill flume when they redesigned the agitator to be a burp-a-lator filter agitator in the 70's.
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Post# 31248-7/28/2003-09:14 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day....
MESSAGE: How could you consider NOT taking both? The Omaha Collection grows and grows! COngrats!
Seems to me that Norge rinses really well because the rinse is like 6-8 minutes long. They seemed to go on forever (compared to the Kenmore that I was accustomed to).
Greg, put the GE Americana in storage. Wards Signature is a perfect replacement!
-ph
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Post# 31249-7/28/2003-11:25 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (Great Find!)
MESSAGE: Robert, when I first saw our neighbor's new washer with the burp-up-filter, that replaced the 1964 one (same neighbor with the Hotpoint touch-command dryer); I immediately noticed that the filling now came out where the filter water used to come out. I was so disappointed. I preferred that filter. It always caught a lot of stuff too.
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Post# 31250-7/28/2003-11:27 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day....
MESSAGE: Peter, the Norge deep rinses were 4 minutes. On our dispensomat (1964), the fabric softener was released during the last minute. And three minutes of agitation before that!!! In some ways, since I was "Kenmorized" before we had the Norge, I thought the 4 minutes was at times a bit long. But was most beneficial when I did loads that had gentle agitation for sure.
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Post# 31251-7/28/2003-12:10 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (Great Find!)
MESSAGE: My friend's Magic Chef from the 80s had this white Norge agitator. It was a Norge machine and sounded like it. The spin really makes alot of wind too. Those straight vanes act as a fan.
In comparison his new Kenmore doesn't make alot of wind while spinning unless you stick you hand down in there which is dangerous.
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Post# 31252-7/28/2003-12:59 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Dryer almost twice as big as the washer??
MESSAGE: Those dryers were 31 1/2" wide, the washer only 25 1/2 so they do seem huge. Those machines do look like they were used very gently over the years. That A700 washer is missing the rinse temp selector knob on the top right of the control panel - you can just make out the hole it fits into. Be sure to ask if they have it somewhere, wouldn't want to get stuck with all cold rinses!
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Post# 31253-7/28/2003-13:07 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (Great Find!)
MESSAGE: I forgot to tell you the other night, Bob, when I was washing a load of rags in the Monkey Norge, that filter was clogged and overflowing by the start of the rinse agitation - a pet peeve of mine with the 1-18 pan type filters too. The Signature owner's manual states that this is normal with some heavy linting loads and the filter is still effective even while overflowing! If it's in the book, it must be true...
(BTW all, the owner's manuals, install instructions and laundering guides were in the washer and dryer when I found them.)
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Post# 31254-7/28/2003-13:09 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (Great Find!)
MESSAGE: It's funny you should mention that, it was 95 degrees + Friday afternoon while I was testing and working on the Signature and that breeze blowing up from the cold water rinsed rags sure felt good, even better on Saturday when it was 102!
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Post# 31255-7/28/2003-17:57 ||| christfr (st louis mo)
SUBJECT: RE: Dryer almost twice as big as the washer??
MESSAGE: it does seem funny that the dryer is so much bigger
i have a set of 68s and the dryer is bigger
a few months back i found a 54 maytag washer
it has a very small body for a washer
hard to imagine that they got all that in such a small package
but they were built really well and very strong
got to love em
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Post# 31256-7/28/2003-20:56 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: GE Announces U.S. Laundry Contest
MESSAGE: GE Announces U.S. Laundry Contest
Jul 22, 2003
According to a recent national survey commissioned by GE Appliances, 1 in 10 women have a husband or boyfriend that knows absolutely nothing about doing the laundry.
To raise national awareness of this laundry divide, GE has declared the month of August "National Men Do Laundry Month" in an effort to help U.S. consumers better manage their laundry and to encourage women to take a break. The month will feature entertaining and educational special events and details of the nationwide survey on men and women's attitudes toward laundry.
As part of the campaign, GE is launching a Ludicrous Laundry Stories contest, which will expose the issue of laundry literacy and encourage women across the country to put more emphasis on sharing the chore with their partners. One winner of the contest will walk away with the GE Profile Harmony Clothes Care System – GE’s new laundry appliances with communications capabilities. "The washer talks and the dryer listens," according to GE, reportedly resulting in better clothes care.
GE's Ludicrous Laundry Stories contest will run from July 21, 2003 through Sept. 8, 2003. GE will randomly choose 50 winners, and a panel of independent judges will pick the five most ludicrous stories and post them on the GE Harmony web site (www.geharmony.com). At the close of the contest, a grand prizewinner will be randomly selected from the top five stories to win a GE Profile Harmony Clothes Care System.
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Post# 31257-7/28/2003-22:58 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Dryer almost twice as big as the washer?? (big dryer)
MESSAGE: WOW, that is a huge dryer, I remember my mom's Hotpoint dryer as a kid, I think it was a late sixties model with the foot pedal door opener and that was wider and bigger than our Maytag A608 Washer ...............
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Post# 31258-7/29/2003-01:18 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Dryer almost twice as big as the washer??
MESSAGE: Good eye, I didn't even notice there was a rinse selection. I thought all "center timer" Maytags had warm rinses.
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Post# 31259-7/29/2003-01:25 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Dryer almost twice as big as the washer??
MESSAGE: I like old Maytags, not a lot to watch in terms of cycles. But I like the look of the center timer. And they lasted forever while only needing belts once in awhile. (even the pump rarely leaked.)
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Post# 31260-7/29/2003-04:47 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Announces U.S. Laundry Contest (Memories from the UK )
MESSAGE: I realy wish the UK had a competition like this one, being a 40 year old and living on my own. Unlike todays unruly youth, being a child of the 60s I was taught respect, of people and other peoples propety. My Mum who is no longer with us, she taught me how to look after my self. Being taught to use a washing machine, to cook, to iron, to use a vaccuum cleaner, to shop for food. I was brought up the right way, now when I see some married men with their respective wifes, the man being what looks like a total unkempt slob, the wife oh jeez. To cut a long story short, the family from hell.
Having had a mum like mine, and the things she has taught me. In todays modern standards I can teach men like I have described, the joys of using a washer, and iron, and cook a good nutritous meal. I was also taught to make do and mend if cash was a little tight, so I do wish the UK had a competion like the one thats going to held there in America
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Post# 31261-7/29/2003-05:18 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Announces U.S. Laundry Contest (Memories from the UK )
MESSAGE: And of course you will all remember my story about my mother and Aunt Jennie ('55 Norge Timeline)teaching me to do household chores as well as laundry - especially laundry. They believed that anyone could put out a great wash if they paid attention to the details and cared about what they were doing, something most people don't bother with. Mama's quote to me was - "For Christ's sake, you're smart enough. If you insist on doing something poorly, then at least have the decency to pick something difficult - and laundry IS NOT it!!!"
Words to live by!
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Post# 31262-7/29/2003-05:57 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Announces U.S. Laundry Contest (Memories from the UK )
MESSAGE: Oh I do agree whole heartidly,I think some woman of todays standards dont know what a washing machine looks like.
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Post# 31263-7/29/2003-06:30 ||| CHRISTFR (st louis mo)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Announces U.S. Laundry Contest
MESSAGE: I REMEMBER BEING 5 YEARS OLD AND MOM TEACHING ME HOW TO DO ALL THAT FUN STUFF I THINK SHE LET ME HELP SO WOULD GET OUT OF HER HAIR BY THE TIME I WAS 14 AND MY DAD HAD LEFT SHE HAD ME COOKING AND DOING THE LAUNDRY FULL TIME EVEN NOW CLOSE TO 30 YEARS LATER I STILL CAN COOK, CLEAN, AND DO LAUNDRY BETTER THAN SHE CAN IM GLAD SHE TAUGHT ME AND LOOKING AT HOW MY BROTHER TAKES CARE OF HIS HOME I REALIZE HOW BLESSED I AM TO HAVE BEEN TAUGHT
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Post# 31264-7/29/2003-06:42 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (Kenmore rinse)
MESSAGE: I've always thought Kenmore deep rinses were WAY too short, only 2 minutes on my machine, load hardly has time to turnover once.
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Post# 31265-7/29/2003-06:51 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Announces U.S. Laundry Contest (Household chores lessons)
MESSAGE: I was raised by my Grandmother, and she taught me how to do all the household things. She used to always say "You're going to on your own someday and these are things you'll need to know"
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Post# 31266-7/29/2003-07:43 ||| deeptub (Carbondale, IL)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (Kenmore rinse/long neutral drain)
MESSAGE: I agree, and my friend's 70's Kenmore devotes TWO 2-minute timer increments to Neutral Drain, even though the tub would be empty after 2 minutes on maximum fill. It just hums along for two extra minutes at each drain period...minutes that could be spent doing something useful like rinsing. Maybe under some installation conditions (like, say, a kinked drain hose) it wouldn't completely drain in two minutes, so they put an extra timer click on to spare the basket drive of an early demise. But still, I can't help feel that it's wasting time.
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Post# 31267-7/29/2003-09:26 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Dryer almost twice as big as the washer??
MESSAGE: Kurt, certain higher-end Maytags of this era had the rinse selector knob on top of the control panel so that one could have a choice between warm & cold rinses. But more in the line-up didn't, simply had the combinations you were thinking of, except with the cold water wash button. For those models, I'd fill with warm and then push cold wash button after the fill if I wanted a cold rinse.
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Post# 31268-7/29/2003-12:40 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Announces U.S. Laundry Contest (Household chores lessons)
MESSAGE: Your grandma was smart. My grandma always used to say "JASON, GET OFFA THAT WASHING MACHINE OR YOU GONNA GET A WHOOPIN'!", and then she'd mumble something in French, a few words of which I knew were curse words :-O
Was I that bad?
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Post# 31269-7/29/2003-12:47 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (Kenmore rinse/long neutral drain)
MESSAGE: Exactly. 4 minutes of BORING, 2 minutes of spin, The rinse is actually 2 clicks on the the timer. 2 mins of it or more is the fill and the remaining 2 is the agitation. Then again, 4 minutes of neutral drain and the last 4 minutes is spin.
On my friend's direct drive machine, the drain is 2 minutes, then it goes into spin.
It won't hurt the basket if it spun and drained out, but if there's enough water, it will come out of the top of the tub.
I think the Direct drive rinses a little better. On the Ultra-Rinse models, it will do 2 LONG spray rinses during spin.
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Post# 31270-7/29/2003-14:29 ||| mrb627 (Atlanta GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (Self-clean filter cones)
MESSAGE: I always suspected the additional 2 minutes of neutral drain had to do with water restriction through the self cleaning filter. My cousin had an early 18 pound capacity Kenmore with dual action agitator and self cleaning filter. It did take it just over the 2 minute time frame to pump that tub out through a partially restricted filter. That's the first and only time I have run into that problem, but it must have occurred during development so they padded the drain cycle.
I don't think the coin op belt drives ever had the two minute ND implemented and thought it might be because they don't have a self clean filter.
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Post# 31271-7/29/2003-14:33 ||| mrb627 (Atlanta GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (neutral timer increments)
MESSAGE: I always thought it was an oddity that there was that dead increment of fill between the first spin and the final rinse. Why do you think they did that? Was it a timer safeguard to effectively be sure that spin solenoid was de-energized before switching back to agitate? On the coin ops, the rinse light would not come on until after this increment was spent. Which would prevent the operator from adding softener until there was a fair amount of water in the basket.
Weird...
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Post# 31272-7/29/2003-17:35 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (neutral timer increments)
MESSAGE: Gives it time to fill up. If you set it on low water level, you gotta wait for the timer to move before the agitator comes on.
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Post# 31273-7/29/2003-18:10 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (neutral timer increments)
MESSAGE: My opinion is there was the extra timer click so that it "padded" the timer somewhat for those who wanted to manually add a 2nd rinse and they wouldn't overshoot the fill portion. On models with auto fabric dispenser, the dispenser solenoid was opened during that initial 2 minute mark and contents dumped at the bottom of the outer tub and brought up through the wash as it filled with rinse water. Then solenoid was closed for the rest of the fill until agitation.
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Post# 31274-7/29/2003-22:50 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (Self-clean filter cones)
MESSAGE: I believe that's what the extra two minutes drain time on 18-pounders was for -- insurance. Our 1976 Supreme 80 was able to drain a full load in just a bit less than two mins for quite a few years. Then as it aged and the filter got a bit clogged, it took more than two mins.
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Post# 31275-7/30/2003-06:31 ||| mrb627 (Atlanta GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (Spray Rinse #4)
MESSAGE: And what was up with the fourth spray rinse before the deep rinse? Seems like before it could spin that rinse water away, it would stop for the fill. Wasted in my opinion. Many of the earlier models had an extra increment of spin before stopping to fill. I guess that had to be done away with to make room for a bunch of additional cycles around the dial. Can't fight progress, I guess.....
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Post# 31276-7/30/2003-06:59 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (Spray Rinse #4)
MESSAGE: I don't remember seeing a 4th spray rinse. My 77 portable does 3 and all the vintage Kenmore's I've seen does 3.
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Post# 31277-7/30/2003-09:27 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (Spray Rinse #4)
MESSAGE: I remember a secretary of mine had a 1965 or 1966 Kenmore pair (model 70 or 80) up until 1990 or 1991. That machine had the "3" basic cycles, variable water level, 5 temps, and the filter light. The dryer was a timed-only soft heat. Anyway, that machine had the additional 2 minutes of spin on each cycle after the 4 spray rinses before the deep rinse. I remember being quite surprised because every other Kenmore that I consciously remember using didn't have the extra 2 minute spin, but it definitely gave enough time for the suds lock to somewhat clear itself out. Our 1970 Kenmore 800 had that 4th spray right before it stopped to fill for the deep rinse and yup, it didn't have time to clear befoe the pump shut down. And when doing a "Bob" load consisting of aload of towels or towels & undies, it NEVER was able to get the water out of the outer tub. That ALWAYS resulted in swirling foamy water emerging throug the tub's bottom holes when it stopped spinning. That was even the case when my mom was running the machine. Now that was particularly if warm rinse was used, but if cold spray rinse/rinse was used, the lesser water pressure did allow the suds lock to clear between the 2nd the 3rd spray because those two were bit more spaced out between them. And Jason, hate to dispute you, but Kenmore & Whirlpools ALWAYS HAD 4 spray rinses per spin. That was in their merchandising literature too--9 rinses.
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Post# 31278-7/30/2003-09:28 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (Spray Rinse #4)
MESSAGE: Jason see my post 31277
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Post# 31279-7/30/2003-09:41 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (4 mins on Normal)
MESSAGE: The Normal cycle has a 4 minute spin between wash and rinse. All the spray rinsing takes place in the first 2 minutes. The Wash 'n' Wear and Delicate cycles have a 2 minute spin between wash and rinse, and yes there is barely enough time for the water from the 4th spray to spin out. Double check your timer charts...
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Post# 31280-7/30/2003-13:47 ||| mrb627 (Atlanta GA)
SUBJECT: Vintage Fill Positions
MESSAGE: I have noticed in quite a few of the visual postings that many of the Vintage washing machines had unique fill positions. For example, the Speed Queen had the "BUBBLE STREAM" at the 12 o'clock position. While the Maytag fill was a ricochet of the tub balance ring between 10 and 11 o'clock position. Additionally, you had the Whirlpool/Kenmore design where the stream of water would bounce off the tub's lip and kind of sprinkle into the tub much like rain drips off the edge of the house.
What other fill methods have you washoholic's seen that get you going?
Malcolm
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Post# 31281-7/30/2003-16:24 ||| washerlover (northern California)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Fill Positions (Fill)
MESSAGE: Well, we can't leave out the 70s Frigidaires with the circle tub fill. It's quite practical as it evenly saturates the clothes for better initial "pull" at the start of agitation.
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Post# 31282-7/30/2003-16:27 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: Hotpoint site down
MESSAGE: My Hotpoint site is down, I am assuming my friend Leslie is working on it right now I will let you know soon hbmuk
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Post# 31283-7/30/2003-18:10 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: some vids are done
MESSAGE: My friend Les informs me that SOME OF the vids have been edited and will be on my Hotpoint site tommorow, so bear with him as hes a very busy man. You could be in for some eye candy, watch for the very untimly blooper of my self regards to one and all hbmuk
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Post# 31284-7/30/2003-18:39 ||| camMURRAY20 (Savannah, GA)
SUBJECT: Vids
MESSAGE: Are you also going to do some on the Whirlpool Imperial 70 and mid 80s Imperial 70?
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Post# 31285-7/30/2003-18:41 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (4 mins on Normal)
MESSAGE: Our '62 Whirlpool had 75-second timer increments (1.25 minutes). If I recall correctly, the normal cycle had three increments of spin between wash and rinse. The first increment had no sprays, the last two had two sprays each. The last spray was maybe 30 seconds before the timer turned and it often didn't have time to drain completely. There were two spray in the first increment of the final spin.
I don't recall for sure, but I think the gentle cycle had two increments of spin between wash and rinse, with two sprays in each. Gentle had no sprays in the final spin, which I think was three increments.
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Post# 31286-7/30/2003-19:44 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Don Picks Up a Lady
MESSAGE: Don (Jetaction) came in Tuesday to meet his new 1965 Lady Kenmore that I found a couple of weeks ago and I'm happy to report that they hit it off immediately and it was love at first sight. Don worked on the Lady's dispensers and got them working perfectly again and did some much needed detail cleaning so now she sparkles again.
We had a fun couple of days playing with the Lady and the Wards set I found last week. We moved them downstairs and had fun with a mini wash-in last night. We made our nightly hunting trips, but found nothing too exciting except a couple of small parts Don needed for the Lady. We had a great time and accomplished a lot. Thanks again Don for a lot of fun and enjoy your Lady, I'm glad she went to a loving home!
Here's a few pics of Don and his beautiful Lady K.
LINK: http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Misc.+Fun&.src=ph&.dnm=The+first+look+at+his+65+Lady.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Misc.%2bFun%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 31287-7/30/2003-19:47 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Dryer almost twice as big as the washer?? (rinse selector)
MESSAGE: The dial on the top of the panel had Cold or Automatic settings, the auto would give warm rinse on hot and warm water and then cold rinse on cold wash.
My grandmother's Maytags had to be reset after the wash fill if you wanted a cold rinse. I don't recall her ever bothering with this, but she was a believer in warm water rinsing anyway.
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Post# 31288-7/30/2003-19:53 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Fill Positions
MESSAGE: The 63 Hotpoint I have fills into the detergent dispenser wheel mounted onto the agitator and swirls around to dissolve the detergent. It makes the spray rinse fun too with water flying all over the tub.
Here's a picture -
LINK: http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Hotpoint&.dnm=Hotpoint+Filling.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 31289-7/30/2003-21:34 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Don Picks Up a Lady (Congrats Don! Thanks Greg!)
MESSAGE: Don,
I bet that you are so excited about your "new" washer! It is so beautiful! Please do take pictures of it in it's new home with her / his new mate! How exciting!
Greg thanks so much for the pictures!
Looks like you guys had so much fun!
Brent
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Post# 31290-7/30/2003-21:44 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Fill Positions (Just Beautiul!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg, Thanks so much for the great pictures. It looks like Don is in "washer heaven" The shot of the Lady in the dark all lit up is just breath taking!! I am sure you guys had a great time!! Don hope as Brent mentioned you will post some pictures of the Lady in her new home. Terry
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Post# 31291-7/30/2003-22:03 ||| partycycle (San Diego)
SUBJECT: Kitchen Aid Dishwasher with Party Cycle
MESSAGE: Interested in mobile top or front loading machines with the
"Party Cycle" AKA short wash that still work. Willing to discuss price and cost of delivery
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Post# 31292-7/30/2003-22:13 ||| partycycle (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: Appliance Convention (When and Where?)
MESSAGE: I would really appreciate it, if you would be so kind, as to share with me any information that you have regarding the appliance convension. Please keep in touch.
LINK: http://chrshouck@aol.com
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Post# 31293-7/30/2003-22:17 ||| partycycle (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: Appliance Convention (Appliance Conventions)
MESSAGE: Hello Steve:
I ask that you please keep let me know all the particulars of this meeting. I really do appreciate it.
Sincerely, Christian Houck, San Diego California
LINK: http://chrshouck@aol.com
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Post# 31294-7/30/2003-22:44 ||| partycycle (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: Dear Appi (Party Appliance Etiquette)
MESSAGE: Dear Appi:
I do not pre-rinse and machine wash pots-n-pans. Long before the pot-n-pan cycle was introduced. My 100 year old Great Aunt, to this very day, with her 1952 Hotpoint propellor action machine taught me. "Why should I do what the machine is to do? My regret is that when designing this kitchen I did not install two dishwashers!!!" She was way ahead of her time. I watch others rinse and struggle while loading their dishwashers but not me. I load mine in such a way that I wonder if there is room for the water. Everything comes out clean. I pay attention to loading, water temperature and detergent. The keys to any dishwasher performance. Without any difficulty I can operate a car with a manual transmission. I would not own such a car. I see washing anything by hand as a waste of time when there is an automatic available. My late Mom got her dishwasher training from Great Aunt Mildred. Thank God and goodness some things were passed along. Call us lazy? I think that those who pre-rinse and spend more time hand washing than the dishwasher cycle takes do so by choice. I just leave them to their busy work.
LINK: http://chrshouck@aol.com
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Post# 31295-7/31/2003-02:39 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Don Picks Up a Lady
MESSAGE: That washer really looks beautiful! I would love to see a few pictures with the matching dryer next to it.
BTW, aren't extension cords available in the stores that you have to build them yourself? Or is it a 220V thing? Just curious.
Louis
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Post# 31296-7/31/2003-03:06 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: Vids (no )
MESSAGE: I only have a hotpoint 1150 deluxe 1983 top loader automatic
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Post# 31297-7/31/2003-05:50 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (Kenmore rinse/long neutral drain)
MESSAGE: That's EXACTLY why WP/Kenmore have a long neutral drain, allows for kinked hoses, slipping belts, dying pumps, clogged in-line lint filters (I have one of these on the drain hose of my LadyK, The Magic Clean filter can be murder on old plumbing when it flushes lint down the drain. It's an official Sears accessory).
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Post# 31298-7/31/2003-05:55 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (Kenmore rinse/long neutral drain)
MESSAGE: Actually, the fill for the rinse is controlled by the water level switch, so it doesn't use 2 clicks of the timer during that time. And the final spin is actually 6 minutes
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Post# 31299-7/31/2003-06:00 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (neutral timer increments)
MESSAGE: I don't remember a KEnmore that had a timer increment between the first spin and the rinse fill. Everyone I seen, and my LadyK go directly into rinse fill from first spin with no timer increment in-between. Rinse water is already entering as the tub brakes to a stop.
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Post# 31300-7/31/2003-06:03 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (neutral timer increments)
MESSAGE: At end of first spin, timer passes control to water level switch, and timer won't move until switch is satisfied, no matter how long it takes.
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Post# 31301-7/31/2003-06:12 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Fill Positions (water fill methods)
MESSAGE: Actually, KM/WP have a special inlet that breaks up the stream as it enters. The most ordinary method I've seen is a 50's Norge where the water just poured in through an inlet at 12 o'clock, same place where early GE's would have the filter water, and it would be non-bubbly.
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Post# 31302-7/31/2003-06:14 ||| mrb627 (Atlanta GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Fill Positions (Dispenser Tray?)
MESSAGE: So, your Hotpoint's tray is purely for dispensing purposes? Not a Filter-Flo like the later G.E. models? Very cool by the way. I prefer a standard capacity top loader to the big 18 pounders. I think smaller loads clean better than big ones.
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Post# 31303-7/31/2003-06:23 ||| mrb627 (Atlanta GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (Kenmore rinse/long neutral drain)
MESSAGE: You are partially correct. There is a timed increment between spin and agitation. While it is not a "timed fill" per say, I think it might be more of a safety feature placing a neutral increment between spin and agitate. This would help to safegard a condition where a short or possibly a partial advance might engage bothe agitate and spin solenoids on the wig-wag.
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Post# 31304-7/31/2003-06:24 ||| mrb627 (Atlanta GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (neutral timer increments)
MESSAGE: Every Whirlpool/Kenmore belt drive machine that I have ever run across has it. That's not to say that they all have it across the board, but I have never personally seen a machine without it.
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Post# 31305-7/31/2003-06:27 ||| mrb627 (Atlanta GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (neutral timer increments)
MESSAGE: Can you check the cycle diagram to be sure you are correct? Sometimes the advancing of the dial is difficult to see. Others, it is quite obvious.
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Post# 31306-7/31/2003-06:30 ||| mrb627 (Atlanta GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Fill Positions (water fill methods)
MESSAGE: When Kenmore went to the plastic ring (splash guard), the fill changed. With the porcelain guard, the fill was more fun because you could shift the ring a little bit and alter the angle of the ricochet. When the direct drive was introduced, they changed again to that ribbon waterfall approach. Not sure why other manufacturer's never had the bubble stream like the SQ. I always thought that was the COOLEST!
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Post# 31307-7/31/2003-06:34 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Don Picks Up a Lady (extension cords)
MESSAGE: So far as I have seen, manufactured 220 volt 50 amp (electric ranges)and 30 amp (electric dryers)extension cords are not manufactured, though different lengths (not very long) are available for the initial cord from the appliance to the plug. So, any extension cord must be hand-made like the one that was shown. Only thing that should be done to make it truly proper is that the line to the 110 volt outlet should have a fuse or circuit breaker in it, the 30 amp breaker of the 220 volt line would provide no overload protection for anything plugged into the 110 volt outlet.
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Post# 31308-7/31/2003-06:41 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (Kenmore rinse/long neutral drain)
MESSAGE: At the end of the first spin, control is passed to the water level switch. Since the water level isn't "timed", it can't really be considered to be a "timed increment". If you turn off the water, agitation will NEVER start, since the water level switch would never be satisfied. This takes it out of any kind of "neutral increment timing" and makes it a condition that must be satisfied.
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Post# 31309-7/31/2003-06:45 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (neutral timer increments)
MESSAGE: My LadyK is a first year Solid State, and like I said, it's filling for the deep rinse as the tub is still braking to a stop from first spin, no timer increment between. But I seem to remember the mechanical timers working the same way. Anybody notice any difference between models/years?
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Post# 31310-7/31/2003-08:26 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Don Picks Up a Lady (sweet)
MESSAGE: congrads Don !!, great pics .......... best of luck
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Post# 31311-7/31/2003-08:46 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (neutral timer increments)
MESSAGE: It's true, my 67 Whirlpool washer had an increment in the rinse fill - while the water was entering the tub the timer advanced one increment and then the timer motor would be off until water level was satisfied. On Don's 65 LK, this increment is when the solenoid was energized to dispense the fabric softener. It's not a pause in the cycle, the timer motor runs for one increment during the rinse fill.
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Post# 31312-7/31/2003-08:50 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Don Picks Up a Lady
MESSAGE: Hi Louis - When some of the guys were here in June and we were testing and running machines all over the garage and outside, we quickly saw the need for a long extension cord to bring power to the machines. Jimmy has built these before so we went to the hardware store and bought the stuff to make our own. There typically aren't extension cords available at this voltage/amperage as it's against electrical codes to run appliances on these types of arrangements. For just testing, it works great but I would never install an appliance permanently with this cord.
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Post# 31313-7/31/2003-08:53 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Fill Positions (Dispenser Tray?)
MESSAGE: Hi - Yup, that tray is just for dispensing detergent, isn't that fun? There is a passive lint filter that sits on the agitator below that - just a small cage type filter.
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Post# 31314-7/31/2003-09:01 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Fill Positions (water fill methods)
MESSAGE: All machines by national plumbing codes must have an air gap between the water line and entering the tub to prevent backflow of dirty water into the water lines should there be a sudden drop in supply pressure during fill. They were all different designs, but accomplished the same thing. The Kenmore's is the plastic 'box' on top of the tub ring (open to the back) Speed Queen ran their water stream through several layers of screen to produce the areated stream. Anytime there is air introduced into the water stream, there will be a few bubbles, but most weren't as fun as the Speed Queen - they even used this areated stream in their marketing. It doesn't really improve performance - sometimes during overflow, it just makes more suds, but it is cool to watch. An areated stream will splash less, just like in the kitchen sink.
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Post# 31315-7/31/2003-10:19 ||| Jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Don Picks Up a Lady (The Lady has arrived!)
MESSAGE: Well the avocado LK made it home safe and sound, and has been flirting with the white dryer that looks so much like her. At some point (with some help) I will switch out the green cabinet to white to match. Pics will come when they are running side by side. Going to Greg's is such a treat-all of those wonderful machines, eating Lucky Charms in the morning, (I can't keep them around the house) Skyler's delightful personality, and of course spending time with Greg. Applianceville is so lucky to have Greg as one of its residents!
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Post# 31316-7/31/2003-11:21 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (neutral timer increments)
MESSAGE: I haven't paid close enough attention to the direct drive to know for sure, but I know on the belt drives I have seen in rinse, if you use a full fill, the timer advances once during the fill before the agitation begins. On the lower fill, it pauses until that increment before it will start up. Also on the belt drives, I observed that that the deep rinse water would already be spraying in as the first spin ended. I know on the normal cycle there are four sprays in both spins, not sure if that differs in the delicate or wash n wear cycles. I also recall a loud solenoid bang in the latter part of the wash cycle. Not sure if that had to do with the suds saver pump (like Maytag) or bleach dispenser or what.
I do know on the direct drive the first spin stops and there is a brief pause before the fill begins, I'm not sure if the timer increments during the fill and I don't recall a pause before agitation at any water level. There is also only 2 sprays per spin instead of 4, but the sprays are longer so they may equal the same amount of total spraying.
Did later belt drives have a spin brake? The direct drive does; it doesn't bang like a Norge or GE (makes kind of a hissing sound) but it stops on a dime. The belt drives I remember seeing the tub goes around quite a bit after the spin cycle is actually over.
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Post# 31317-7/31/2003-11:24 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Fill Positions (water fill methods)
MESSAGE: hmmm...in old Norge advertisements they used to talk about the aerated fill water and how the suds starting working before the agitation and etc. Was this ever really the case and later dropped, or was it just words? I have seen Robert's Norge but I couldn't say for sure if the water was aerated or not.
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Post# 31318-7/31/2003-12:38 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (neutral timer increments)
MESSAGE: Excuse me, but I already explained this in an earlier post of mine--a fwe different words, but did mention the FS dispenser and such too.
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Post# 31319-7/31/2003-12:43 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Don Picks Up a Lady (The Lady has arrived!)
MESSAGE: Don I enjoyed the pics of y'all at Greg's. You look like such a happy papa. Eagerly await the pics after the body change operation. Keep an eye on those two flirting though. Hmm, I wonder if a union would result in a combo washer/dryer LOL.
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Post# 31320-7/31/2003-13:19 ||| mrb627 (Atlanta GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Don Picks Up a Lady (Interracial Union)
MESSAGE: Or perhaps a litter of compact/portables ;)
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Post# 31321-7/31/2003-14:56 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (neutral timer increments)
MESSAGE: Our 1962 Whirlpool LJA3200 had rinse fill on the normal cycle thusly:
Last increment of spin before rinse with 2 sprays ->
First increment of rinse (rinse fill), fill starts as basket coasts to a stop, but the timer motor keeps running. If the water level switch is satisfied BEFORE this increment elapses . . . as when doing a warm rinse on low water level with high water pressure . . . fill stops and there is a PAUSE for the remainder of that 75-second timer increment. If the water level switch is not satisfied in 75 seconds, the timer advances to the rinse agitate increment and the timer motor stops at that point while fill continues. ->
Second increment of rinse (rinse agitate) is 75 seconds of agitation.
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Post# 31322-7/31/2003-15:28 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (neutral timer increments)
MESSAGE: Far as I know, for WP/KM/KA/RP dd machines, there isn't a true pause increment on the timer between agitate and spin like there is on your vintage Frigidaire, but rather it is designed into the timer so that when it turns over the increment, action stops as the contacts switch internally from one increment to the next.
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Post# 31323-7/31/2003-16:07 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Don Picks Up a Lady
MESSAGE: I guess your safety regulations about 220V are just about the same as ours about 400V. Other washers than my two frontloaders have to be connected by a extension cord if I want to use them. And when my mother got her Bosch, she didn't want it in the laundry kitchen we had because it was to deep, so it was installed in the mudroom. Unfortunately there was no socket in the mudroom, so it was connected with a long extension cord to the socket in the laundry kitchen. And it did it's work like this for eight years.
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Post# 31324-7/31/2003-16:10 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (neutral timer increments)
MESSAGE: Glenn you are correct. The timer advances slow enough that it allows the needed paus for the neutral drain or the coupler to engage for spin at those times. On the electronic models though, there is a built-in pause for a certain number of seconds as the timer counts down at those specific intervals to allow the motor to wind down to shift into drain or the coupler to lock up for spinning (I'm so untechnical aren't I, but at least I understand basically what it's doing) ;-)
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Post# 31325-7/31/2003-20:05 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: Vintage Dishwashers
MESSAGE: I have never added a link to a post in Applianceville so here goes. I love old dishwashers and this is my latest find. If all goes well in time I will add the other dishwashers for anyone that might be interested to see. It started out to find just one cool dishwasher to add to my breakfast bar & it seems there are many old dishwashers out there that is catching my eye. "I'm not a collector" just want one cool machine "ya right" Michael
LINK: http://ca.f2.pg.briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/mikepaquette20032002/lst?&.dir=/My+Documents&.src=bc&.view=t&.begin=1&.order=&.done=http%3a//ca.f2.pg.briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/mikepaquette20032002/lst%3f%26.dir=/My%2bDocuments%26.src=bc%26.view=t
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Post# 31326-7/31/2003-20:23 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire Unimatic advice needed
MESSAGE: Hi guys.
Greg, Robert or anyone else:
When I last posted I was removing the WO-65 Unimatic motor for motor starter switch replacement.
That’s done. The motor is back in the machine. It was easier and not as scary as I thought, and all went well. The fan screw and pump assembly were both tightly fastened.
However I’ve had to go through this twice with the same result. I can’t seem get rid of the rattling fan noise. There’s no doubt that the fan screw is very, very tight. It’s secure, not rattling and is tight until the machine is running, and then it loosens up and it’s rattling again. I hope it isn’t possible to do damage by overtightening the screw.
As I told Greg, the first time I (re)removed the pump, I noticed that on part of the black “graphite” (or whatever material it is) cross shaped pump seal, two tabs were cracked off, but I used it again anyway. The center part of it looked OK. There are no water leaks, only the rattling when the motor is running.
I do have one more pump seal kit that I haven’t yet put to use. Is this what it needs? I hate to take it apart again. Is there any other way to quiet the fan without taking it apart?
Robert, if I happen to need another fan, would you by chance have a replacement for it in your parts supply?
As always any and all advice is appreciated.
P.S. Greg
The parts should reach you shortly.
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Post# 31327-7/31/2003-20:49 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Dishwashers (Very Cool!)
MESSAGE: Mike,
That is a great looking Moble Maid!
I love that big dial, and the shape of the cabinet.
I wonder if that same style / model was offered.
Please let us know about it and how she runs.
Thanks for the photo's.
Brent
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Post# 31328-7/31/2003-20:54 ||| zzzzz (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (neutral timer increments)
MESSAGE: I vaguely recall that, on the 1968 Kenmore 800 my parents once had, the sequence was something like this...
First spin proceeds -> timer increments -> rinse fill starts -> drive motor promptly shuts off and tub comes to a stop -> timer stops until set water level is acheived -> machine pauses until timer increments to the next notch and rinse agitation starts.
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Post# 31329-7/31/2003-21:31 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Unimatic advice needed
MESSAGE: Hi Ken -
The pump impeller screw sounds like it's not tight enough - did you use locktite on the screw and let it sit overnight to cure?
The pump impeller shaft that comes up from the impeller plate is what holds the fan tight against the motor and keeps it from rattling. Chances are, if there is noise coming from the fan while the machine is running, it's the pump impeller screw that is the culprit and the only way to fix it is to remove the bottom pump plate and tighten that screw - probably even tighter than you think you can, I'm still amazed at how tight those need to be to get the noise to stop.
Thanks Ken - good luck!! You've come this far, you'll get it!
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Post# 31330-7/31/2003-21:57 ||| partycycle (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Dishwashers (Mobile Maid DW Memories)
MESSAGE: Mike,
I too have this love for old dishwashers. My Mom and six other relatives were not going to be out done by one another. So during the 50's the dishwasher competition commenced. My Aunt had the GE Mobile Maid you have pictured. It was in her old weekend house. Even though it was a mobile top loader she had it connected permanently in a space that seemed to have been designed for it. To operate it there wasn't the need to connect it to the faucet on the enormous wall mounted cast iron sink. I don't ever recall being in her kitchen that her Mobile Maid was not running. I can hear it now. In her other house she had a 50's KitchenAid model that had what appeared to be a car door of a handle to open it and only a red start button. She was ahead of her time in that it was installed elevated beside the sink so that she did not have to bend over when loading it. An installation method that appears to be catching on today. My Mom's dishwasher was a 58 Frigidaire pink built-in that had a center mounted spray tube instead of a propellor or wash arm. Between all of the ladies kitchens I recall a good example of 50's dishwashers including GE and Westinghouse drawer models. My Great Aunt who is now 100 had them all beat with her prewar under-the-counter Hotpoint that she still uses to this very day. Please post picture of any other discoveries that you might find. Thanks
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Post# 31331-7/31/2003-22:50 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Unimatic advice needed (The Od Big Wrench and Screw Trick)
MESSAGE: Hi Ken, you can just forget about getting that pump impeller screw tight enough if you are just using a plain old screw driver. Go out and get yourself a huge flat-head screwdriver and a vice-grip locking pliers. Lock the pliers to the screw driver as shown in the picture and use the pliers as leverage. Be sure to coat the threads of the screw with blue loctite (available at the hardware store) and let it sit for 16 hours before you plug in the machine.
LINK: http://classicappliances.com/TEMP/bigscrew.jpg
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Post# 31332-7/31/2003-23:44 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Dishwashers
MESSAGE: What a beautiful machine; looks like it's hardly been used, and/or very well cared for. Even the manual cover is a delight. If you were going to pick only one, this would be a nice one, but I'm just betting there will be more in your future.
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Post# 31333-8/1/2003-00:38 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Dishwashers
MESSAGE: Excellent find - 1954? Thanks for the pics too - this is a beautiful machine, is this how you found it? Congrats and enjoy!
Greg
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Post# 31334-8/1/2003-00:41 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Unimatic advice needed (Dishwasher?)
MESSAGE: I see you have a vintage dishwasher in the new kitchen now, does this mean the Kenmore is gone? And you installed the gold, er...yellow one and not the white?
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Post# 31335-8/1/2003-01:31 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Dishwashers
MESSAGE: Cute dishwasher! Is it working well?
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Post# 31336-8/1/2003-01:42 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Dishwashers (Re: 1954 GE Portable Dishwasher:)
MESSAGE: Hi! Michael, my Parent's bought a Dishwasher just like that one of yours, except it had Pinkish areas where yours has the Bluish areas. Does it have a Red Detergent Cup, with a Cover that pivot's to dispense the Detergent? The Racks in yours in the Photo are just like the ones in the Dishwasher that my Parent's bought new in their Mid-50s Dishwasher. It was a great Dishwasher and I always loved being near it, when the Lid Popped open to start the Dry Cycle and let the excess Steam out of the Dishwasher. I sure wish I could find one just like that, except in the Pinkish Color, so it would be like the one my Parent's bought, but if it had Blue areas, I certainly wouldn't pass it up if the "Price Is Right."
Peace, Steve
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Post# 31337-8/1/2003-03:39 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Cool Avocado on a Hot Summer's Day.... (belt drive tub brake)
MESSAGE: "Did later belt drives have a spin brake? The direct drive does; it doesn't bang like a Norge or GE (makes kind of a hissing sound) but it stops on a dime. The belt drives I remember seeing the tub goes around quite a bit after the spin cycle is actually over."
Yes,, belt drives have a spin brake, it's actually a clutch, but it does take about 1-2 revolutions to stop after it's applied.
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Post# 31338-8/1/2003-03:51 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Don Picks Up a Lady (extension cords)
MESSAGE: Makes sense, since virtually EVERYTHING runs on 220 volts in Europe, that they would make extension cords for appliances that would normally be 110 volts here, you'd just have to be sure that the wire was big enough to carry the amperage, whereas here, only heavy amperage appliances (electric dryers, electric ranges, electric central heat, electric water heaters, air conditioners above 10,000 btu, electric motors above 1 hp) and central electric heat and water heaters have to be hard-wired in, no cords allowed.
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Post# 31339-8/1/2003-08:24 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Unimatic advice needed (The Old Big Wrench and Screw Trick)
MESSAGE: Yes, I did use Blue Locktite the first couple of times.
I've tightened the screw to the point where the slot is a bit stripped. Assuming I can get it removed. I'd like to replace the screw before I attempt the fix again. Anyone know if this a screw I can replace from a good hardware store or Home Depot? Or is it a very specialized Frigidaire screw/part?
I'll ask again though, I assume the partly broke black seal is irrelevant, correct? Just vice-grip tighten it. The last time I tried to screw it in tightly, it seemed like I was going to screw into and through the impeller, wrecking it.
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Post# 31340-8/1/2003-08:44 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Unimatic advice needed (Dishwasher?)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg, no that's in the basement, I installed a 13 foot formica counter with cabinets in the workshop and left slots for two dishwashers. The White '56 Frigidaire is going in the Kitchen.
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Post# 31341-8/1/2003-08:49 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Unimatic advice needed (The Old Big Wrench and Screw Trick)
MESSAGE: You have to make sure that those four arms coming out of the carbon face seal are aligned properly in the four impeller slots otherwise they will break when you tighten the screw and the impeller will not tighten enough to stop the fan from rattling. Do use the new seal but be extra careful to be sure that its aligned properly or you will break it.
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Post# 31342-8/1/2003-08:59 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Dishwashers
MESSAGE: Michael, great machine. I particularly love the big dial. I wish you'd take a close-up of that control dial. And BTW, I love old dishwashers too. POST MORE!!!
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Post# 31343-8/1/2003-12:13 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Unimatic advice needed (Dishwasher?)
MESSAGE: So I guess you have moved into the house? Congratulations then, I hope you and Neal are going to be very happy there. And ofcourse we hope to see some pictures when you're settled ;-)
Louis
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Post# 31344-8/1/2003-12:15 ||| Activator (Tulsa, OK)
SUBJECT: Random Memory
MESSAGE: I was looking through some linked photo collections just now and when I saw a Westy Laundromat in action, I suddenly remembered...my grandmother had a salt and pepper shaker that were plastic miniatures of the Laundromat, about 4 inches tall. You could see whether it was salt or pepper by looking thru the windows. I would kill for a set of those now...
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Post# 31345-8/1/2003-12:54 ||| westie2 (arkansas)
SUBJECT: RE: Random Memory
MESSAGE: There is a pair for sale go look in the for sale on this site on 7/30.
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Post# 31346-8/1/2003-13:01 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Random Memory
MESSAGE: You can always find those Westinghouse salt & pepper shakers for sale on Ebay...sometimes still in their original box.
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Post# 31347-8/1/2003-13:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Random Memory (Appliance Minis)
MESSAGE: I used to play with my mother's set of Marx and Renwal plastic dollhouse furnishings which I eventually broke nearly all of...
I love miniature appliances - they are so cute and they take up WAY less room than the real ones! Here's a couple of pics of the ones in my office.
LINK: http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Misc.+Fun&.src=ph&.dnm=Bendix.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Misc.%2bFun%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 31348-8/1/2003-18:20 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: some vids are done
MESSAGE: Hi Guys 4 vids are done and uploaded with the promise of more to come very soon have fun guys hbmuk
LINK: http://www.kevinkunsworth.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Hotpoint
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Post# 31349-8/1/2003-18:21 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: some vids are done (dohhhhhhhhhhhhhh huston we have a problem)
MESSAGE: BE RIGHT BACK
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Post# 31350-8/1/2003-18:23 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: try this
MESSAGE: try this link
LINK: http://www.kevinkunsworth.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Hotpoint.html
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Post# 31351-8/1/2003-21:01 ||| Partycycle (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Dishwashers (Over Loaded)
MESSAGE: Hello Mike:
I have gone back to look at your link. Like I said. I do not recall being in my Aunt's weekend house kitchen that the exact same DW you have was not running. Then it dawned on me that I would watch her filling the bottom rack full of pots, broiler pans, bowls whatever. She would say "running a separate load." The top rack configuration is such. It has a large opening that is the access to the bottom rack. Wasted precious space. She would load measuring spoons and long handled utentsils hanging from the top rack. I recall my Aunt finishing loading with whatever it might be. Maybe a skillet, bowl or platter. She would then place spanning that opening in the top rack. I learned from her when it came to loading a DW. When I am finished loading my DW. I often wonder if there is room for the water! I was out of town when the opportunity came to attend the estate sale to purchase that DW. Good going in getting yours. Hopefully you too will take advantage of this maximizing the load technique. I can still hear my Aunt Musetta saying. "It is all how you load, water temperature (160 degrees) and the right brand of detergent (Cascade). She had an unbelievable sense of humor, style, excellent cook and a world traveler. I sooo miss her and that DW...
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Post# 31352-8/1/2003-21:06 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: frigidaire on ebay
MESSAGE: Look, here's another 1-18 on ebay. Who's turn is it to get one?
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2338282187&category=20714
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Post# 31353-8/1/2003-21:16 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: try this (Thanks Kevin)
MESSAGE: Kevin,
Thanks for the videos so far.
How old is your Hotpoint? I am sure that you posted the age, but I think that I missed it.
Someone else in the club has a Hotpoint like yours also, but I can't remember what member it was.
What is the spin speed on your Hotpoint?
Thanks again.
Brent
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Post# 31354-8/1/2003-21:17 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: frigidaire on ebay (Cool...)
MESSAGE: That machine looks like it is in very good shape. And a matching dryer! That is cool.
Was the yellow fridge a Frigidaire also?
Thanks for the link.
Brent
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Post# 31355-8/1/2003-21:19 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Random Memory (What a collection!)
MESSAGE: Greg,
You have so many cute toy machines!
Did you find most of them as sets, or did you collect them one by one?
I love the Bendix and GE set. I almost looks like you have every machine from that era.
Brent
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Post# 31356-8/1/2003-21:20 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: Robert.....Just Curious.....
MESSAGE: Robert,
Wanted to ask if you are going to redo your basement first, or have you brought home all of your babies yet?
I bet that you are having fun in your new house.
Brent
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Post# 31357-8/2/2003-02:21 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: frigidaire on ebay (Mine if...)
MESSAGE: It would be my turn, if I were able to pay the shipping! Too bad it's so many miles from where I live. It'll probably be picked up from some local bidder anyway.
MrCoffee
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Post# 31358-8/2/2003-02:37 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: try this (So far, so good....)
MESSAGE: Let us know when you are ready to put up a video of the machine washing... Be sure to make LOTs 'o sudz!
MrCoffee
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Post# 31359-8/2/2003-02:40 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: Re: Extension Cord:
MESSAGE: Hi! Club Member's, I noticed the Extension Cord that was made for Don and I would like very much for the Guy who created it would to let me know the Wire Size used and how to Wire the Recepticles for both the 220-V and 110-V Plug-Ins.I know some fair amount about Wiring and Electricity {like unplugging things first}but I'm not sure about the Wire Size that you used and the connections. I would really appreciate any and all info to help me to create my own Extension Cord Recepticle, to test my Washer's and Dryer's. Thank you for your help and for everyones replies and comments to help other's out with Appliance needs.
Peace and Regards, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...
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Post# 31360-8/2/2003-02:49 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: try this (Re: Hotpoint Videos and Photos:)
MESSAGE: Hey! Kevin, you have a very interesting Washer, compared to the American-Made Hotpoint's. I've never known of any Hotpoint's to have at least a starting Drain being a Neutral Drain and then starting the Spin, like our older Norge-Made Washer's. Our Hotpoint Washer's as far as I know also didn't have the Filter-Flow Wash/Rinse to the Lint Filter Pan, they had "Burp-Up Filter system's, like the older Norge-Made Washer's.
Thank you for sharing the Photo's and Video's with us and be sure to keep us informed when you have more later on, of the rest of the cycles.
Peace and Regards, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...
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Post# 31361-8/2/2003-03:17 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: try this
MESSAGE: Thank you for the videos so far, they're very nice. That is the same machine as another UK member (chestermikeuk) has I think, perhaps a little different in the details but I'm not sure about that. They're wonderful machines, I would love to have one. But they were never sold overhere and I don't have any room anyway.
BTW, that is an awful lot of Ariel that you are using. I think Persil in the UK sells a powder for twintubs etc. Have you considered using that?
Hope to see more videos,
Louis
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Post# 31362-8/2/2003-03:23 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Random Memory (What a collection!)
MESSAGE: Indeed cool stuff. Yesterday Yahoo was acting up so I wasn't able to view. I think the Bendix and the Westinghouse little machines are my favourite.
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Post# 31363-8/2/2003-03:49 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Random Memory (Westiinghouse Laundromat salt & pepper shakers)
MESSAGE: Actually, those are VERY common, I see them on e-Bay all the time.
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Post# 31364-8/2/2003-04:06 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: try this (Thanks Kevin)
MESSAGE: Hi Brent, The machine was built around 1983, it has a spin speed of 1050 revs. I used the quick wash programs on the videos to cut down time, as I didnt want my friend Les to stand there to long.
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Post# 31365-8/2/2003-04:12 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Extension Cord: (home-made extension cord)
MESSAGE: I didn't make it, but this is the way I would make it.
wire size should be #10. Depending on your locality, you may have to use a 4 wire plug, outlet, and wiring, since some areas require the the ground be separate from the neutral. The 110 volt outlet is then connected with #12 wire from either of the black Hot terminals of the 220 volt line, through a 20 amp fuse( easier to do than a circuit breaker using the wood board configuration)If using a fuse, make sure it's the Time Delay type. If you want it to be really heavy duty, use a 20 amp 110 volt outlet (has the T-shaped slot, regular outlets are only rated for 15 amps). If using the regular 3 prong 220 volt dryer outlet, connect the green ground wire and the white neutral from the 110 volt outlet to the white neutral
post of the 220 volt dryer outlet. If using the 4 prong outlet, connect the white neutral wire from the 110 volt outlet to the neutral terminal of the dryer outlet and the green ground wire to the ground terminal of the dryer outlet. Be sure and stick with #10 wire for the cord, #8 wouldn't hurt if the cord is fairly long to avoid voltage drop.
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Post# 31366-8/2/2003-04:20 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: try this (So far, so good....)
MESSAGE: Hi Mr Coffee, the remaining videos will be up (I hope) sometime today. It will include the washing action, the manual recommends that I dont over do the the washing powder. As the soaking phases on the wash cycle make overdoseing unessesary, but I know what your saying. You wanna see how well it can cope with over sudzing, the agitator has a powerfull turn over being a spiralator agitator. It can make to many sudz, care is needed. hbmuk
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Post# 31367-8/2/2003-04:23 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: try this (Re: Hotpoint Videos and Photos:)
MESSAGE: The rest of the vids will be up some time today I hope, I will prevail with my friend Les. thanks Steve call me soon
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Post# 31368-8/2/2003-04:30 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: try this (Hard water )
MESSAGE: Errm that load of washing was very dirty (blush) work trousers, aprons, track suit bottoms and socks and err smalls. And I live in a hardwater area, Thanks Louis
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Post# 31369-8/2/2003-05:44 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: frigidaire on ebay (Cool...)
MESSAGE: That gold refrigerator looks like a GE to me.......
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Post# 31370-8/2/2003-05:57 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire WCD 61
MESSAGE: Yesterday, my local connection called me with an interesting find. A Frigidaire WCD 61 with solid tub, "lint away rinse", etc... The machine was remarkably clean inside and out considering its age. However there was some rust along the bottom of the cabinet.
Now for the question. Underneath the machine is a wide metal crosspiece that runs diagonally across the bottom of the machine from back to front. It looks to me as if the whole operating mechanism sits on that crosspiece.(base plate perhaps??) That metal piece is quite rusted and is actually rusted through where it joins at the botttom back of the machine. SO - is this repairable or does this problem render the machine "useful for parts only? If it is not fixable that would be tragic since it is so clean otherwise. And for the life of me I can't figure what could have caused that much rust - perhaps sitting in a very wet basement or a slow internal leak??? Oh, well, ideas anyone???
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Post# 31371-8/2/2003-07:16 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: try this
MESSAGE: Great videos! Looking forward to more!
Steve1-18
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Post# 31372-8/2/2003-07:21 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: Internet Explorer Spell Check
MESSAGE: I'm a big fan of Kim Komando and heard of this site a few weeks back. It is a free internet spell checker. It places a button on Internet Explorer and allows you to check your messages before posting.
Steve1-18
LINK: http://www.iespell.com/
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Post# 31373-8/2/2003-09:04 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: more vids filtering thru
MESSAGE: More vids are filtering thru guys 1 more has been added will check back later hbmuk
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Post# 31374-8/2/2003-10:08 ||| Activator (Tulsa, OK)
SUBJECT: Wonderful video!
MESSAGE: Thanks for the excellent work on those Hotpoint vids! It brought back memories of my GE that "died" (and killed my kitchen and living room flooring on its way out!) My machine had that same "Spiralator" type agitator, which I still believe is the gentlest--and most efficient-- of all possible agitator shapes. I can't wait to see the rest of the clips!
And I certainly hope the members of Applianceville have looked at your main website. It is time well spent...
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Post# 31375-8/2/2003-11:19 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Internet Explorer Spell Check
MESSAGE: It's good to see that someone post something that will make misspelled words a thing of the past within any message board! I've been using this spell checker for almost a year and it does a wonderful job and highly recommend it for everyone use!
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Post# 31376-8/2/2003-12:10 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: try this
MESSAGE: That is so Cool!
Is it normal for the machine to agitate then continue to fill until the water level is satisfied because of low water level after it start??
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Post# 31377-8/2/2003-12:31 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: Just got back in
MESSAGE: Hi Guys just got back in, the vids are now compleat have fun guys
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Post# 31378-8/2/2003-12:45 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: the link
MESSAGE: The link for the site is as you see it now
LINK: http://www.kevinkunsworth.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/hotpoint/index.html
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Post# 31379-8/2/2003-13:07 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: try this (Normal )
MESSAGE: Yes this is normal now, in the early 80s I had a Hotpoint Liberator top loader automatic. It would fill up 1st then start the washing action, then stop and heat to the required tempreture. The automatic I have now fills and washes in phases, then carrys on washing when the fill stops. It washes for a few minutes more then stops and heats the water, after say ten mins the washer starts up again, then stops and heats up further to the full set water tempreture. Then again the washer starts up for a few mins more, then drains rinses and spins with a final rinse and final spin. hbmuk
LINK: http://www.kevinkunsworth.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/hotpoint/index.html
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Post# 31380-8/2/2003-13:50 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: one last word
MESSAGE: Just to let you know, on the vids I used the quick wash cycle to cut down on the amount of time that Leslie had to stand. The quick wash cycle is about 35 mins long, fortunatly the fill up on the machine is quiet fast. On the quick wash cycle it uses cold water, I do not have the ready cash to pay a plumber to plumb the washer for hot water. The washer does however during the soaking phase heat up and take the chill off the cold water, I only did this for you guys I used the straight end of a tea spoon to overide the lid safty mechanisim. This was a bit un safe but I did it anyway, I wanted you to see the results which worked very well indeed. its down to you guys now regards and best wishes to one and all hbmuk
LINK: http://www.kevinkunsworth.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/hotpoint/index.html
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Post# 31381-8/2/2003-15:51 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: try this (Normal )
MESSAGE: Thank you Kevin, wonderful washer drama. Question, is there not a spin directly after the main wash?
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Post# 31382-8/3/2003-04:47 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: condensing dryers and combos
MESSAGE: Could someone here exlian how the condensing type dryers and combos worked in the olden days and is it any diferent now with the newer combo washer-dryers? Was reading about the duo-matics and other machines and was surprised at the water consumption because of this method. They would never allow that today.
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Post# 31383-8/3/2003-05:55 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: try this (Normal )
MESSAGE: No there is no spin after the main wash, there is a drain out of the suds water. A fill with clean water and an agitated rinse, then a drain out and short spin. A fill with cold water again then a 3 min agitated rinse then a drian out and 4 min hi spin at 1050 revs. The cycle I used in the vids is the quick wash cycle, the method I have described here is a main wash at 40 degrees. Hope this answers your qusetion, if not let me know hmbuk
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Post# 31384-8/3/2003-05:59 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: try this (So far, so good....)
MESSAGE: The wash action on your machine consists of slower, and longer strokes then that of my GE. They are quite well done, and fun to watch.
As for the sudzing, my GE handles that with aplumb. It's got a gasket around the top of the outer tub, and that pretty much keeps all the sudz out of the rest of the machine. Then, it has this lengthy spray rinse before going into two deep rinse cycles! I will never regret rescuing that machine!
MrCoffee
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Post# 31385-8/3/2003-06:37 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: try this (So far, so good....)
MESSAGE: Unlike the front loader I had, the Hotpoint I have now actually throws out a certain amount off the dirty water. So it stops and refreshes the water by topping it up again, this happens after the water has reached the full tempreture. And activates well into the main wash after the heater on the washer turns off. This way the clothes are not always washed in dirty water, the short spin cycle after the 1st rinse lasts for two and a half mins to a full 1050 revs. This process gets all of the suds out of the clothes, then follows a long deep agitated deep rinse and a hi speed spin. I have noticed the results in my clothes they are very clean and no longer dull or dingy. Its the best washer I have had so far, regards hbmuk
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Post# 31386-8/3/2003-08:05 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: Vintage Dishwashers
MESSAGE: I have been looking since last fall for the right cool dishwasher for our breakfast bar. These are a few of my finds.
LINK: http://ca.f2.pg.briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/mikepaquette20032002/rlst?.dir=/&.src=bc&.done=http%3a//ca.f2.pg.briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/mikepaquette20032002/lst%3f%26.dir=/Vintage%2bDishwashers%26.src=bc%26.view=l
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Post# 31387-8/3/2003-09:51 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Dishwashers (nice )
MESSAGE: Great pics Mike
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Post# 31388-8/3/2003-10:05 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Dishwashers
MESSAGE: Mike, thanks for that pix. Pic number 4, is that a whirlpool? I'd love to see a close-up pic of all the buttons and the control knob. The GE MobileMaid is gorgeous. I love that dark coppertone color, one of my favs. And you answered my burning question, what "modern" dishwasher do y'all have.
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Post# 31389-8/3/2003-18:32 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: Yahoo-Groups
MESSAGE: Hello all,
I have heard from Yahoo-Groups that on Aug. 7, they will not allow any clubs to have group picutres saved on the Yahoo database. I want to ask if any of you know if that will mess up the personal space of pictures that are saved in the club members pictures that are saved on Yahoo, that are so wonderful. (to many to mention) I look at them so often in my moment of need, and I hope that they will stay!
I hope not! Anyone know?
Brent
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Post# 31390-8/3/2003-21:41 ||| camMURRAY20 (Savannah, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: try this (Normal )
MESSAGE: Are you also going to do some videos on the mid 80s WP Imperial Seventy washer. I'm just dying to see some videos on this next washer.
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Post# 31391-8/3/2003-21:51 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: Monitor Washer on E-Bay
MESSAGE: Hi Everyone!
It's been a while since I've been here. My computer died and had to be replaced. (SOB!) I hope everyone is well and has been enjoying their summer. It's good to be back.
I just came from E-Bay. Someone is selling a Monitor washer. (I seem to recall that at least one club member has one.) One of my grandmother's had one of these. It was a very interesting machine. The washing action was accomplished by an impeller on the back wall and there was a manual wringer. Clothes had to be rinsed seprately. I seem to recall that it was emptied by a pump. I also seem to recall two switches ... one for "wash" and one for "drain".
Here's the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2338729459&category=20714#ebayphotohosting
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2338729459&category=20714#ebayphotohosting
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Post# 31392-8/3/2003-23:31 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: try this (So far, so good....)
MESSAGE: Take real good care of that machine, hairy. They don't have rinse cycles in machines like that any more. I have a newer machine, and it doesn't even have a spray rinse. One wash, and a deep rinse and that's about it.
Of course, there are those new super-duper high efficiency washing machines. They really don't use much water, but I still kind of wonder how they perform. Well, actually, Unimatic himself gave his true thoughts when he unplugged a brand new GE version of a Whirlpool Calypso and went back to his old Frigidaires! The amount of water they use during a typical wash cycle reminds me of a carpet extractor. So there you have it. Enjoy it, and make it last because you might never get another one.
MrCoffee
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Post# 31393-8/4/2003-03:42 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: try this (Normal )
MESSAGE: Errm sorry my friend I only have the one Hotpoint top loader as you see it now, I dont have the ready cash to buy any vintage or classic washers. Most of the thrifty/second hand stores only supply older type front loaders, I have not seen any vintage or classic machines hbmuk
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Post# 31394-8/4/2003-03:54 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: try this (So far, so good....)
MESSAGE: I have a 6 month guarantee on that washer, if I need to extend that guarantee on it I can but at a monthly premium. Because of the age of the machine its worth while, incase of break downs or parts that give out (god forbid)
I did have a heck of a lot or problems with vibrations while in the hi spin speed, I could not believe the washer was so sensitive to a floor that was just slightly unlevel. The problem was that the front wheels were sitting on a raised part of the kitchen carpet, caused by the under lay so the front end was raised and the back end was lowered. So it was running on a slight slant, but after 15 mins work it spins better than it ever did, Regards to every one hbmuk
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Post# 31395-8/4/2003-05:09 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: test
MESSAGE: TESTING WEB SITE DOWN
LINK: http://www.kevinkunsworth.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/hotpoint/Hotpoint.html
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Post# 31396-8/4/2003-09:49 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: test (website up just downloaded )
MESSAGE: Thank you so much for your hard work and sharing. enjoyed the bloopers
Thanks
Philippe
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Post# 31397-8/4/2003-10:35 ||| SALVOBOY (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: RE: Random Memory (Appliance Minis)
MESSAGE: Hey Greg -
Great collection! By the way, is one of those mini Laundromats sprouting a crown? Was kinda worried that tumbler was suffering from a case of vertical-pulsating-agitator envy .
Greg
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Post# 31398-8/4/2003-10:54 ||| SALVOBOY (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: RE: try this (Re: Hotpoint Videos and Photos:)
MESSAGE: Hi Steve-
My folks still have an early 80's TOL Hotpoint that has a variation on the Filter-Flo. The pump recirculates water during agitation spilling into a ring around the perimeter of the tub that looks like a giant donut. It's made of the same perforated material as a Filter-Flo agitator mounted filter tray and is self-cleaning during the spin. Actually works pretty well and maintains some of the benefit of the water showering down from above. You just can use it as detergent dispenser as it is small and recessed under the edge of the cabinet.
Greg
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Post# 31399-8/4/2003-11:27 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: try this (Re: Hotpoint Videos and Photos:)
MESSAGE: Steve the videos are compleated now, so have fun. Oh by the way guys I have some good news to share, My partner Terry is going to buy me a brand new tumble drier. He has been fortunate to come into some money, so this is his way of saying thanks for your love and support over the years. SIIIIIGH LOL
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Post# 31400-8/4/2003-11:53 ||| salvoboy (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: RE: try this (Re: Hotpoint Videos and Photos:)
MESSAGE: Oops. I meant to say that you cannot use the filter ring as a dispenser like a Filter-Flo tray since it's not accessible.
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Post# 31401-8/4/2003-12:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: try this
MESSAGE: Excellent site - love the videos of the Hotpoint washer. Any plans to increase your collection?
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Post# 31402-8/4/2003-12:28 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Dishwashers
MESSAGE: Wonderful finds! Which one is your favorite so far? Is that GE charcoal gray or very dark brown? I have a promo item from GE with that dishwasher pictured.
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Post# 31403-8/4/2003-12:29 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Yahoo-Groups
MESSAGE: Hi Brent - I think that only applies to archived photos and files stored within the groups themselves, hopefully it will not affect the free photo storage many of us have!
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Post# 31404-8/4/2003-12:33 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Random Memory (Appliance Minis)
MESSAGE: Hi - that is a crown that actually belongs to Peter to be mounted on the panel of his 1959 Frigidaire Filtrator dryer.
I hope the Westy won't feel bad when I snatch it away!
Greg
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Post# 31405-8/4/2003-13:06 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: try this (Re: Hotpoint Videos and Photos:)
MESSAGE: U can on this one
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Post# 31406-8/4/2003-13:10 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: try this (Lack of ready cash )
MESSAGE: Sorry Greg this is not possible as there is a lack of ready cash, I am only a poor over worked and underpaid bartender, SOB LOL. The second hand stores and shops in my district only sell older type front loaders, and I dream of an ABC O MATIC.
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Post# 31407-8/4/2003-13:13 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: test (thanks)
MESSAGE: great videos, thanks for posting them :)
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Post# 31408-8/4/2003-13:41 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: dont thank me
MESSAGE: All the credit goes to my good friend Les, I am so glad you enjoyed them hbmuk
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Post# 31409-8/4/2003-14:15 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: test
MESSAGE: Great website and great videos! Love spiral ramp agitators!
-ph
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Post# 31410-8/4/2003-17:24 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: dont thank me (agitator like EASY)
MESSAGE: Well thanks to Les :-) .......... the agitator is the closest I have seen to what was known as the EASY "spiralator" agitator.
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Post# 31411-8/4/2003-23:51 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: try this (Re: Hotpoint Videos and Photos and Dryer:)
MESSAGE: Hey! Kevin, "great video's" thank you and your wonderful Friend Les, for helping you.
What brand of Dryer are you going to look into? I'm real interested if it would be something like a Miele, Bosch, Hotpoint, ABC O'Matic, AEG, or ???
Keep us posted about the Brand you select and features.
Peace, Steve
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Post# 31412-8/5/2003-05:19 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: try this (Re: Hotpoint Videos and Photos and Dryer:)
MESSAGE: I have seen a Hoover and a Hotpoint drier, I dont go for for features. Like my old one the ones I have seen have the tumble one way stop and tumble the other way feature, and the 2 heat settings. The clothes dont get creased and tangled as much, my old Hotpoint drier I bought in 1994. Today its still going strong but the door has snapped off, Its still usable but now I am getting a new one. Regards to one and all HBMUK
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Post# 31413-8/5/2003-08:40 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: test
MESSAGE: Hey wonderful videos, thanks for taking the time to do that, I know how difficult it is to make vidoes.
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Post# 31414-8/5/2003-08:59 ||| radiobill1966 (Indianapolis, IN)
SUBJECT: RE: Yahoo-Groups
MESSAGE: From what I read, Yahoo sez any pix that were sent as attachments amongst group members will be eliminated. Photo archives and files will remain untouched. So if you want to share pix, you have to upload it to the respective photo archive in the group.
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Post# 31415-8/5/2003-12:23 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: test (your welcome )
MESSAGE: Your welcome so glad you like them, after 3 hours of trailing around the department stores in town, I dunno if anyone else has noticed the flimsiness of todays domestic appliances. As you know I will be getting a brand new tumble drier, some of the driers I have seen at close range are manufactured in mostly plastic. On the most favourite brands this is what I have seen, being Tricity Bendix, Hotpoint, and very over priced Miele and Bosch. After a lot of humming and harring and fussing between me and Terry over styles quality and of course priceing, The only ones of quality, size, and sturdyness I have seen was Hoover and Wirlpool. I didnt go for the Hoover drier cos it didnt have the 2 way drier action, The Wirlpool has. It also has a large drum the port hole is large too, with 2 way drier action and most of all its mainly metal inside and out. I have gone for this one, It will be here this Friday comeing so bear and cub are happy regards to one and all HBMUK
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Post# 31416-8/5/2003-18:55 ||| camMURRAY20 (Savannah, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: try this (Re: Hotpoint Videos and Photos and Dryer:)
MESSAGE: What is the model of this washer and dryer?
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Post# 31417-8/5/2003-18:59 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: try this (Re: Hotpoint Videos and Photos and Dryer:)
MESSAGE: The washer in the vids is circa 1980s, the new drier is a whirlpool.
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Post# 31418-8/5/2003-19:02 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: try this (Re: Hotpoint Videos and Photos and Dryer:)
MESSAGE: The old broken one I bought in 1994 new, a Hotpoint bench top reversomatic.
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Post# 31419-8/5/2003-19:42 ||| Stevebennett (San Diego)
SUBJECT: Okeefe & Merritt Stove Cleaning/Restoration
MESSAGE: My sister lives in the San Diego area and needs to have our parents 6 burner, dual oven/dual broiler Okeefe & Merritt stove throughly cleaned and possibly some minor work done on it.
Any suggestions for vendors in the San Diego area?
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Post# 31420-8/6/2003-06:50 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: try this (Re: Hotpoint Videos and Photos and Dryer:)
MESSAGE: Those Hotpoint videos are awesome!
What's the spin speed on that machine?
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Post# 31421-8/6/2003-08:11 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: try this (Re: Hotpoint Videos and Photos and Dryer:)
MESSAGE: The spin speed is 1050 rpm hbmuk
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Post# 31422-8/6/2003-08:30 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Today's Pict of the Day
MESSAGE: Today quiz: Since the lady in today's picture of the day is obviously in deep thought, what exactly was she thinking as that picture was taken?
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Post# 31423-8/6/2003-08:34 ||| Activator (Tulsa, OK)
SUBJECT: POD
MESSAGE: Very nice pic of the day. If you'll excuse me, I have a story to write now.
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Post# 31424-8/6/2003-09:07 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's Pict of the Day
MESSAGE: Woman (thinking): "So THAT'S the way it's supposed to work! No wonder the dishes kept breaking. Now I can get that new set of china I want!"
Repairman: "Buddy, your wife is such a ditz. With women like her around, I should raise my rates. I'll be a millionaire in no time."
Husband: "That's my baby! And that's why I love her!"
Organ music swells. Cut to a cigarette commercial. "Come over to the L&M side!"
-ph
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Post# 31425-8/6/2003-09:20 ||| may63 (Saint Paul, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's Pict of the Day
MESSAGE: The authoritarian looking man on the left is the appliance police. He just gave the woman a ticket for overloading (and breaking) her washer which explains the look on her face. The man on the right just finished repairing the damage. Next the guys are going to round up the Maytag repairman and go out for coffee but not invite Mr. Whipple or Marge the manicurist.
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Post# 31426-8/6/2003-09:21 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's Pict of the Day
MESSAGE: Woman (thinking): "Boy, won't Gladys have something to talk about when she sees these two STUDS leaving my house AGAIN while Darren is at work! Good thing the shutters were closed so she couldn't peep in!"
Delivery Man: "Jeez, what does she do to these machines? This is the third set I've delivered here this month."
Repair Man: (thinking): "I'd like to give YOU a delivery..."
-ph
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Post# 31427-8/6/2003-09:32 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's Pict of the Day
MESSAGE: Woman (thinking): Hmmmm... I got the new automatic washer and dryer... Now how can I get that new dishwasher..."
Delivery Man: "Man, those things weigh a ton! I almost broke a sweat moving them in here! Good thing that porcelain finish is so tough. If they were Westinghouses, they'd be all scratched up... Hey, why do you keep grinning at me like that for?"
Repairman (smirking, thinking): "Scratches? If you only saw what she did to my back! Thank God for these new miracle no-iron fabrics and these permanent, crisp creases..."
-ph
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Post# 31428-8/6/2003-09:59 ||| may63 (Saint Paul, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's Pict of the Day
MESSAGE: LOL
Although I was trying to keep it clean you can't help but notice the "tension" between the two of them (what a scandalous triangle)
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Post# 31429-8/6/2003-10:16 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's Pict of the Day
MESSAGE: Well, here we are again. This is the 4th time this month the repairman has been here to fix the washer. This time they brought the delivery man with another set just in case. I'm relieved they're working again. Tom Turbo was right, these machines just don't hold up well. But they're SUPPOSED to be the latest in fabric care and wash-day miracles. After all Kenmore IS supposed to be the best.
The delivery guy is thinking, he Buster, what's that big grin on your face for again? I've got something else you can fix.
The reapirman is thinking, oh here he is AGAIN. I just gotta get a date with him.
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Post# 31430-8/6/2003-12:06 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's Pict of the Day (Re: POD:)
MESSAGE: Hey! Guy's you can't forget about Mrs. Olson too. She was no doubt not invited either. She's the Folger's Lady, who fell in love with Mr. Whipple. They got Married and ended up with Coffee Scented Charmin.
I would guess that the Woman was shocked, because the 2-Guys said a little too loud, let's forget the Customer, let's go and do our own Repair's and check each others Plumbing out!!!
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Post# 31431-8/6/2003-12:50 ||| may63 (Saint Paul, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's Pict of the Day
MESSAGE: "Ha ha, mister repairman, you are no longer needed now that she has brand new KENMORES. So be gone, before someone drops a house on you too!"
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Post# 31432-8/6/2003-12:54 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's Pict of the Day
MESSAGE: I think she's thinking "hmmm that's strange, now that Hank has bought me this brand new dependable Lady Kenmore set I didn't think we would need to see Harry the Repairman as often as we did before, I can't find anything wrong with the machines."
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Post# 31433-8/6/2003-14:09 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's Pict of the Day (Was there actually a caption?)
MESSAGE: Hey,
Was wondering if there was actually a caption to this ad?
I love how much effort they made to get their expressions just right.
Love the picture.
Love the captions from the club!
Brent
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Post# 31434-8/6/2003-15:33 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's Pict of the Day
MESSAGE: She's thinking: "I should have bought those smart looking Control Tower Frigidaires..."
man in green is thinking: "What a sweet piece of candy that would be - gotta get me some of that!"
man in brown: "I've got lots of tools in the box, but you should see the one in the basket!"
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Post# 31435-8/6/2003-16:39 ||| Activator (Tulsa, OK)
SUBJECT: Hats off to JasonL!
MESSAGE: Just got highspeed internet service along with necessary updates to actually view the Washington D.C. convention footage, which I've been wanting to see since I joined. It was well worth the wait! You all must have had a BLAST!
I recognized a Leonard/Kelvinator w/the aqua-blue agitator. I'm assuming the machine with the white agitator and similar orbital agitation pattern was from the same family. What about the machine with the reversing impeller at the bottom?
Who remembers what brand it was?
Again, excellent video. It was like visual prozac...thanks!
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Post# 31436-8/6/2003-17:15 ||| Activator (Tulsa, OK)
SUBJECT: RE: Hats off to JasonL! (yep - I'm replying to myself...)
MESSAGE: DUH! The white "orbital" agitation in the video is CALYPSO, yes? Gadzooks. Ya know, if the TV commercials for these machines would just SHOW the machine in operation instead of a female drag queen singing opera under a waterfall, maybe I'd have recognized it...
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Post# 31437-8/6/2003-18:02 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: Hats off to JasonL! (yep - I'm replying to myself...)
MESSAGE: well done Jason for those who have not seen them yet heres my link
LINK: http://www.kevinkunsworth.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/hotpoint/Hotpoint.html
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Post# 31438-8/6/2003-21:14 ||| alr2903 (new orleans)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's Pict of the Day (POD)
MESSAGE: Uni I think the guy in brown is going fishing whats that in his right hand? or, Is the brown guy the prompt Sears service guy, that fixed the problem quickly, while the green uniform, with "ST' on his cap from "Star appliance service arrived too late. Now you have me wondering, Is there a caption?? I must admit the artist has "quite an eye".
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Post# 31439-8/6/2003-21:45 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: Speed Qween
MESSAGE: Why are all the nice machine so far away?
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2339501814&category=20714
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Post# 31440-8/6/2003-23:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's Pict of the Day (POD)
MESSAGE: We since everyone is wondering here is the full ad...
LINK: http://classicappliances.com/TEMP/uniform.jpg
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Post# 31441-8/6/2003-23:21 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: TIMER woes ......HELP!!!
MESSAGE: Well a couple weeks ago I pulled the timer off my ' 56 Whirlpool Imperial Washer and sent it to midwest timer, they said they could not rebuild the existing one but had a replacement. Well when I pulled the original I made a diagram of where every wire went, and on the new one the terminals are in big time different locations, ugghhh !!!, so I matched up the best I could the lettered/numbered wires with the same on the terminals. I felt I had all of them in the right place except for one or two. Well the timer does not advance, no fill, and it briefly agitates (i think on rinse) drains and spins, and works whether the timer is pulled or pushed, if you push it in the machine keeps running and the lights come on, its very weird, I DON"T KNOW WHAT TO DO ..... as you advance the timer very slowly nothing happens except again for some brief agitation and drain then spin, any advice is most appreciated........... regards............gregm
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Post# 31442-8/6/2003-23:27 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Speed Qween
MESSAGE: Miss America has lost her crown again because she could not spell Queen!
Oh how embarrassing........
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Post# 31443-8/6/2003-23:44 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Speed Qween
MESSAGE: The same reason why all the nice Bears are not in Texas, but live elsewhere too!!!
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Post# 31444-8/7/2003-01:31 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: TIMER woes ......HELP!!! (help is here!)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg-
Here is a scan of the wiring diagram for your machine. Do your terminals and wires have number/letter coding on them? This should help you figure out which wire goes to each terminal on the timer. (click on the small pic for larger version - you should be able to save this on your computer and print it out)
While I was scanning from the Whirlpool book, I also added the 56 model line and the 57 as well, just for fun.
LINK: http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/New+pics&.src=ph&.dnm=Imperial+Wiring+diagram.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/New%2bpics%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 31445-8/7/2003-01:35 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Speed Qween
MESSAGE: That's a fine washer - looks to be a reversing motor (later style) machine. This washer has the measured fill feature, available only on the top of the line. I can't tell if that is a soak timer next to the timer or not - must be something fun! The washer like this I had with a soak timer had different markings. If we had the model number, I could look it up.
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Post# 31446-8/7/2003-06:31 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: Speed Qween (Nice Bears )
MESSAGE: Sorry appnut LOL
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Post# 31447-8/7/2003-06:33 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: try this (Re: Hotpoint Videos and Photos and Dryer:)
MESSAGE: Seems like fixing a broken door would be way cheaper than buying a new drier.
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Post# 31448-8/7/2003-08:29 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: TIMER woes ......HELP!!! (thnks but ...)
MESSAGE: Greg, thanks so much for the diagram, BUT, hhehehehe, my problem is that the main black and white power supply wires and a couple of the dial lamp wires and one of the fluorescent lamp wires are "unmarked". Yes, most of the wires are numbered/lettered. I knew exactly where to put them back on the old timer because of the diagram I drew up. This new timer, the terminals are in different locations, so a couple unmarked wires I tried to put along with the marked ones in conjunction and in relation to the old diagram, obviously that is not going to work, plus on the timer itself, when for example a terminal is marked "A2", well do they mean the terminal directly above or directly below that marking. I was able to print out the diagram, however, it is slightly blurry. The diagram does not tell me the number or letter of the unmarked wires I just mentioned ...... but thanks very much for your efforts. I was going to contact MW timer again, but there is probably not much they can do ...........
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Post# 31449-8/7/2003-10:33 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: try this (Re: Hotpoint Videos and Photos and Dryer:)
MESSAGE: Oh come on nown if you were having a new drier bought for you from a loved one. Would you fix your old one? in this case I think not.
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Post# 31450-8/7/2003-11:03 ||| Dbgstaples (Phoenix, Arizona)
SUBJECT: Find a Laundry Pair
MESSAGE: Whoa... my first post! I've been a fan of your descussions and the site for months but haven't felt worthy enough to join in.
I have a friend that wants to purchase a set of machines TODAY and she's asked for my assistance in her selection. She owns an original set of stacking Neptunes which are at her vacation home. Her new home has room for a standard side-by-side set. She's considering another set of Neptunes but also is looking at the Whirlpool Duet/Kenmore Elite.
Can anyone weigh in on which you think would be a better choice and why? I know little about the Duet/Elite but know the Neptunes are generally fine machines.
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Post# 31451-8/7/2003-11:46 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Find a Laundry Pair (Applianceville for the vintage)
MESSAGE: Hey Dan! Welcome!
We try to keep Applianceville discussions on vintage machines, so we discuss new appliances in our sandbox. It is a Yahoo group that you need to join. Click on the link below, or exit Applianceville, come back in, and on the bottom of the page when you first come in, the link is there.
Have you also posted on the Laundry Room over at That Home Site? Try this link also:
http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/laundry/
There is a TON of information there on new washers and dryers.
-ph
LINK: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Applianceville-Sandbox/messages
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Post# 31452-8/7/2003-11:54 ||| Williamschris (Toronto Ontario)
SUBJECT: 1956 Frigidaire fridge freezer door wanted
MESSAGE: Wanted
Pink (or any color) plastic freezer door for model s80c. also top-half shelf. Will pay fair price.
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Post# 31453-8/7/2003-12:26 ||| dbgstaples (Phoenix, Arizona)
SUBJECT: RE: Find a Laundry Pair (Applianceville for the vintage)
MESSAGE: Done! Thanks Peter!
On a more 'vintage' note, I was interested in a post a week or so ago which had a link to Ebay with a Frigidaire washer located in Scottsdale, AZ. Since I recently relocated to the Phoenix area I was tempted, but when I looked again it was sold. Have you had any experiance with Ebay before? Do classic appliances come up often? Is it possible to find parts for such a machine?
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Post# 31454-8/7/2003-12:36 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Find a Laundry Pair (Applianceville for the vintage)
MESSAGE: There are a number of used appliance yards and dealers, flea markets and such in the Phoenix area that we often visit when I visit there and I have seen some interesting things. I will see if I can obtain their locations from my friend who lives there. There seems to be a lot of good "thrifting" for smaller items as well. Also, my understanding is the homes in Sun City (north of Phoenix) used Frigidaire appliances as original equipment (in the 60s) so keep an eye on ads and so forth. Good luck!
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Post# 31455-8/7/2003-15:55 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: TIMER woes ......HELP!!! (thnks but ...)
MESSAGE: What you are going to have to do Greg is pull the wiring apart and follow each wire from point to point to see which wire is supplying what circuit. This can be a difficult process. If you have a multimeter you can remove one lead from the timer at a time and attach one probe on the loose lead and then probe around the wires underneath the machine with the other lead until you get a 0 ohm reading. When you get a continuity reading of 0 ohms you know you have found the end of the wire that the other probe is connected to.
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Post# 31456-8/7/2003-16:36 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: frigidaire washer parts......help
MESSAGE: hi there...i have a 1956 frigidaire washer, model
number is WI 56....i am looking for somewhere that
might sell parts....in particular, an impeller for
the pump......help
thank you
ross roberts....nycaross@aol.com
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Post# 31457-8/7/2003-19:50 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: YOU'LL NEVER GUESS WHAT I FOUND!!!
MESSAGE: Hi Everyone! I'm Baaaaaack! When I returned from my 5 weeks away, a friend of mine had spotted an old dryer at the side of a curb and picked it up for me. He told me about it but I didn't give it much thought since he didn't even know what brand it was. W E L L !!! It turned out to be a PINK Speed Queen!!! .....more details to follow! Mark
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Post# 31458-8/7/2003-20:56 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: TIMER woes ......HELP!!! (thnks but ...)
MESSAGE: Oh No! I've never had a problem with different terminal arrangements from Midwest Timer. All is not lost though, just ship the machine to me and I'll fix it ;-)
Do you have terminals on the timer marked "A" and "C" ? If so, these are the terminals that you connect the power cord to. What wires do you have from the dial lights - color is black?
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Post# 31459-8/7/2003-21:00 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: TIMER woes ......HELP!!! (thnks but ...)
MESSAGE: Have mercy!
I'd scream and claw my face - then come back to it tomorrow...
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Post# 31460-8/7/2003-21:00 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: YOU'LL NEVER GUESS WHAT I FOUND!!!
MESSAGE: I've never seen a pink Speed Queen - this should be fun!
Welcome back - Greg
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Post# 31461-8/7/2003-21:38 ||| AndrewInOrlando (Winter Park, FL)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's Pict of the Day (POD)
MESSAGE: I have to say that I haven't laughed so hard as when I read the commentary here on this particular POD. Great work everyone.
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Post# 31462-8/7/2003-21:52 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: Kelvinator Food-A-Rama and other toys
MESSAGE: Brought Home a Kelvinator Food-A-Rama and a lady kenmore dryer and a Kenmore all are in working order washer here are the pics...If anyone knows of the year of the Kelvinator Food-A-Rama please pass the word along to me thanx
LINK: http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/bc/oldappliancefreak/lst?&.dir=/My+Photos&.src=ph&.view=t&start=1&.rand=8825159403
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Post# 31463-8/7/2003-22:24 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: TIMER woes ......HELP!!! (thanks Robert)
MESSAGE: ok, I got ya up to attach one probe to loose lead (that I just pulled off the timer) but i lost ya at probe around wires under machine ?? probe what wires ?? any ?? or like you say until I hit "THAT WIRE" and get an 0 ohm reading? just by touching that wire ? I guess I should also use the diagram that Greg gave me as well in conjunction with this. So bottom line, you don't think the timer I just got from MW timer is bad or faulty ?? Based on your advice, I should only have to do this with three or four wires whereas I feel confident that I hooked up the coded ones with the respective coded terminals, the main black and white power supply are unmarked, I am not sure if I have them in the right spot, I do have power some of the cycle, whether the knob is pushed in or pulled out. Thanks for the advice, I need to go buy a multi-meter at Radio Shack, the only ones Home Depot had were digital and they were pretty expensive, like $40.-- and up. I know you can get one at Radio Shack for like $20 bucks ...
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Post# 31464-8/7/2003-22:26 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: YOU'LL NEVER GUESS WHAT I FOUND!!! (pink SQ, huh?)
MESSAGE: can't wait to see pics of that ..... congrads :)
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Post# 31465-8/7/2003-22:30 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: TIMER woes ......HELP!!! (ship mchn)
MESSAGE: oh man wish I could throw her on my truck and bring her over, everything else seems to work fine, unsure about fill ?? anyways, YES, I do have terminals marked A and C and I believe I connected the black one to C. I need to go double check, the dial lights (7 watt nightlight bulbs) are white wires. The fluorescent does not work at all and I put in a brand new bulb, could be wire or ballast ?? PCB ballast ?? unlikely that would go .......... oh and reason for different locations on timer is it is a replacement timer, the original could not be rebuilt or fixed, he said this would replace it but that the terminals would be in different locations on the timer itself.
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Post# 31466-8/7/2003-22:33 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: TIMER woes ......HELP!!! (head against wall)
MESSAGE: yea, I was alone when I created some new four letter words when I spent over an hour putting this timer back on while balancing the heavy porcelain top on my shoulder, and it half-a** worked ........... I just had to walk away. I felt like it was hopeless to get her up and running again ......
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Post# 31467-8/7/2003-22:37 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinator Food-A-Rama and other toys (dates)
MESSAGE: I guess mid sixties on the frig and the dryer .... congrads on your finds :)
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Post# 31468-8/7/2003-22:52 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: TIMER woes ......HELP!!! (head against wall)
MESSAGE: hang in there my friend, I know sooner or later you will find just the right combination. Haven't done a lot of work on appliances, but I know in other things it does help when you're frustrated to just walk away for awhile and try again later. Good luck!
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Post# 31469-8/8/2003-00:03 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinator Food-A-Rama and other toys
MESSAGE: Man oh man, now that's a refrigerator...I hope you didn't strap this to your little car!! I would guess this is an early 50's Kelvinator, Jimmy in OH has one and will probably know a closer date. All are very nice finds - your basement must be getting full by now!
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Post# 31470-8/8/2003-00:06 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: TIMER woes ......HELP!!! (ship mchn)
MESSAGE: What a mess - you'll figure it out though, time and patience will prevail. It's too neat of a machine not to have working.
I jammed a screwdriver into my hand today working on a *( #)$*#^ GE Profile dishwasher....we'll look at it again tomorrow.
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Post# 31471-8/8/2003-00:21 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: Another Speed Queen on eBay
MESSAGE: Now this is one of those classic appliance I like to see live and direct. Pull the washer down to load and go!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2339564222&category=20714
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Post# 31472-8/8/2003-00:27 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Speed Qween
MESSAGE: Would the soak cycle be similar to a Hotpoint or GE where it is located part of the normal rinse cycle or would it be entirely exclusive on the timer?
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Post# 31473-8/8/2003-03:57 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: try this (Re: Hotpoint Videos and Photos and Dryer:)
MESSAGE: Oh, in that case, go for it :-)
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Post# 31474-8/8/2003-07:16 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: POD
MESSAGE: But that washer's too vintage to be in the SANDBOX
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Post# 31475-8/8/2003-08:34 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Another Speed Queen on eBay
MESSAGE: But you could only see the clothes tumbling in the dryer through the little window and hear the washer churning away - all the action is hidden!
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Post# 31476-8/8/2003-08:36 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Speed Qween
MESSAGE: On the TOL SQ's, some had a soak timer next to the main timer dial. You set the washer the cycle you wanted, let it fill and agitate a couple of minutes, then set the soak timer for how long you wanted to soak. It simply cut the power to the timer and then when the time was up, the cycle would complete as normal. I think Hotpoint had something similar in the 70's too.
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Post# 31477-8/8/2003-08:50 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinator Food-A-Rama and other toys (Very Nice Brian!)
MESSAGE: Brian,
Thanks so much for posting your pictures of your new finds!
I love that "Food - A - Rama"!
I am not sure about that exact year, but in the movie "What Ever Happend to Aunt Alice" with Geraldine Page and Ruth Gordon, Geraldine Page's fridge was yours. Dark copper tone color. I remember it caught my eye because it was huge! I think that all of the appliances in the kitchen were Kelvinator's, but you never seen them close up.
You found some great stuff!
Love your babies also!
Brent
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Post# 31478-8/8/2003-08:55 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinator Food-A-Rama and other toys (Aunt Alice - 1969)
MESSAGE: By the way,
"Whatever Happened to Aunt Alice" was filmed in 1969.
Brent
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Post# 31479-8/8/2003-09:01 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT: POD.. what happened to the "Program Computer" ?
MESSAGE: I've seen in some of the vintage ads that Westinghouse made a big deal about their machine in the late fifties, maybe 1960, having the Program Computer pushbutton controls. Why is it that a few years later, they are using a traditional dial? Is the ad for a cheaper model? Was the "Program Computer" available on TOL models into the 60's? Was it abandoned because of reliability or serviceability issues? Thanks for any info...I really like those vintage front loaders!
Duane
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Post# 31480-8/8/2003-11:20 ||| dbgstaples (Phoenix, Arizona)
SUBJECT: RE: POD.. what happened to the "Program Computer" ?
MESSAGE: You can see five push buttons on the control panel... would that be the same idea?
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Post# 31481-8/8/2003-15:04 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD.. what happened to the "Program Computer" ?
MESSAGE: Nope, not the same idea. The Program Computer model was all-push-button with what can be referred to as a rapid-advance timer. No knobs, all buttons.
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Post# 31482-8/8/2003-15:22 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: POD.. what happened to the "Program Computer" ?
MESSAGE: It sounds very similar to the Maytag A-906. The user just pushed one button that started the machine and set it for load size, temp., wash and spin speed, wash time, etc. (There were buttons for "Bright Colors", "Full White Load", Partial White Load", "Woolens", "Delicate", "Wash and Wear", etc.) A friend of my mom's had one. She used to complain that it was too automatic. I have a feeling that the Program Computer (and similar models by other manufacturers) fell out of favor, because most people wanted to the ability to adjust their machines to suit both the size and type of load and their own individual preferences.
Just my $0.02
Mike
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Post# 31483-8/8/2003-16:14 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD.. what happened to the "Program Computer" ?
MESSAGE: Having seen and used a 906 at Greg's, perhaps the biggest downfall of that machine is the lack of a separate water level setting (perhaps just by adding a few buttons at the end of the row?). The pushbutton controls and rapid advance timer are very cool. Aside from that, I think it could work nicely (and does, if you work around that issue). Thing is, when is the last time you did a full load of delicates or woolens?
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Post# 31484-8/8/2003-16:18 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: try this (Re: Hotpoint Videos and Photos and Dryer:)
MESSAGE: I did I got it today, so glad I did and guys I got £30 for my old front loader the one that died on me.£1=$1.46 I think. The second hand shop took it for spares or repair, so I have had a great day guy regards to one and all HBMUK.
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Post# 31485-8/8/2003-17:23 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD.. what happened to the "Program Computer" ? (rapid advance timers)
MESSAGE: Hi Scott - you are right, the lack of water level adjustment is a bit of a dismay, but in all reality, most of the loads I wash are full loads and very rarely do I wash only one or two items. The thinking behind the full water level on the woolens and delicate cycles is that it made the agitator action even more gentle. I've seen in a number of owner's manuals that even for just a couple of items, the washer should be set for a full load or just a little less. More cushioning for those fine washables - many of which could give off lint and the extra water would help carry it away too.
Rapid Advance timers seemed to come in and out of favor from time to time. I think the last one to use them was on the late 80's Kitchen Aid (Whirlpool made) on their TOL washer and dryer. It's pretty rare to see an R/A timer on dryers which made the KA set even more fabulous.
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Post# 31486-8/8/2003-18:03 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT: RE: POD.. what happened to the "Program Computer" ? (Thanks! Anyone have a sixties Westinghouse FL?)
MESSAGE: Thanks for all the input on why the all- pushbutton washers fell out of favor. I wonder if cost was a factor also? Of course, now we are entering the all electronic control era.
Does anyone out there own a Westinghouse "Program Computer" model? I've seen photos of earlier models, but none of late fifties to early sixties front loaders. Did front loaders become less popular in the sixties?
Duane
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Post# 31487-8/8/2003-18:58 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Kelvinator Food-A-Rama and other toys (Whatever Happened to Aunt Alice (Kelvinator Food a rama)
MESSAGE: 1969
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Post# 31488-8/8/2003-21:10 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: Re: Info on Sandbox, for Unimatic1140:
MESSAGE: Hi! Robert, I had a Posting on the Sandbox Hamper last week or a little longer that I wondered about getting a Reply from you about. Have you not gone on that part of the Site lately? I know that you have been real busy, with just moving and wanting to get your Basement operating with the Washer's and Dryer's. I would like very much to hear back from you whenever you have a few minutes to write back and comment about the Topic, either in a separate E-Mail or on the Sandbox Hamper Site.
Peace, Steve
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Post# 31489-8/9/2003-20:32 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Seeing Pink
MESSAGE: After weeks of coming up with nothing at the estate sales, this week turned out to be a bonus week. Our first sale yielded a stack of 50's Better Homes & Gardens magazines, a couple boxes of vintage laundry aids (my favorite Axion!) and an air purifier crammed with ozone bulbs. A friend of mine called and had spotted a Kenmore wringer washer in pink so we drove as quick as we could to snatch it up.
Here's a few pics of the washer after a preliminary bath. It still needs some pump attention and a new cord, but otherwise seems to be working very well.
Hope everyone had a great day - Greg
LINK: http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/New+pics&.src=ph&.dnm=1961+Visi+Matic+in+Pink!.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/New%2bpics%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 31490-8/9/2003-21:35 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Seeing Pink
MESSAGE: Very fun! I haven't seen that style control panel, and I don't *think* I've seen it where the area around the wringer is painted rather than chrome. Very nice machine!
For those who have not used these machines, they are very nice. Very quiet in operation, excellent turnover, and the open top wringer makes it much easier to see what you're doing (especially for us novices who tend to have things wrap around the rolls, LOL)
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Post# 31491-8/9/2003-22:34 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Seeing Pink (What fun!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg, That Kenmore wringer is beautiful! I am so glad that you were able to get it. A good match for your other one. I can just see the pair with the little Bendix between them!! What is the air purifier like? Glad that the sales were interesting today. They are so much fun. I bet the magazines will be neat to go through as well.
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Post# 31492-8/10/2003-02:20 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: And Now...A Word From Our Sponsor, Westinghouse
MESSAGE: Hi Everybody,
It's Program Computer here. The Westinghouse issue brought me out of retirement. I have been on a HUGE search for Westinghouse Laundromat information from the 1958 models onward.
It seems that Westinghouse forgot about their 1958 models as I have NEVER seen ANY advertisemants for the Laundromat. I found ONE small advertisement for the 1958 Custom Imperial Dryer in the August 1957 issue of House Beautiful. It seems that 1959 was the year that Westinghouse came back with "new" information on their Laundromats. Because of:
T H E P R O G R A M C O M P U T E R L A U N D R O M A T
L - 1 0 0 0
Westinghouse did several advertisements for this machine especially found in the 1959 Better Homes and Gardens June issue. They also did one in April from a different angle. Both were done in a doeskin brown with chrome, and both were TWO page ads. I have found both, because I do ALOT of research in the State of Michigan Library and the Michigan State University Library looking thru the hardbound issues.
This helps me to find what I need to look for loose leaf( i.e. NOt bound )
I'm sure that wasn't the proper color for the machine...but it was a very light brown. It looks like the 1959 Program Computer on the 1959 Westinghouse video that we have in the archives.
I also have a complete 1964 catalog for the Westinghouse Heavy Duty Laundromats including the new "agitator" washers. The LAF 100, which is the top of the line is featured prominently. Not only was the washer not completely pushbutton, it had TWO dials.
It had five pushbuttons but it was not a completely pushbutton controlled automatic. Also Westinghouse gave up their "Weigh To Save Door".
So thats all I have to say right now about Westinghouse.
Hope you all are OK. I still have the 1-18's but recently gave away my 1966 Lady Kenmores to my freinds Alison and Ashley who just bought a house in Ann Arbor Mi. They are totally in love with them and at least their still in the "family" and aren't wasting away in my folk's basement.
And of course my early 70's Westinghouse Space Mates which still wash along for my household.
And remember what Betty Furness Say's....
YOU can be SURE....If It's Westinghouse
Chad
Oh yeah P.S. I just recently bought the VHS of "Lucy's Lost Episodes" which features a promo done for Westinghouse in the spring of 1958. It shows Lucy doing all sorts fo crazy s@#t to get Desi to outfit her new dresing room with new Westinghouse Appliances.
FYI What the hell does she need a stove and fridge in a dressing room for anyway?
When Desi refuses, and won't let Lucy even stay while the dealer from L.A. is in Desi's office (to discuss the new Westinghouse Desilu Playhouse, and to see the grounds of Desilu Studios). She then concocts a huge plan with Vivian Vance and William Frawley to pull one over on Ricky to get her 1958 model appliances.
She follows Desi and the Dealer on a tour of the Desilu grounds with Fred and Ethel as she disguises herself as several things and persons and Fred and Ethel keep interrupting Desi as laucy as these disguises gets the dealer to whip out his book and take a rush order.
By the end of the tour she has already ordered all that she want's and the dealer leaves to place the order. Later in the promo Desi decided ( too late of course), to quit being an ass and Let Lucy order her new stuff. When he asks the dealer to go to Lucy's Dressing Room to get her "order" he goes there and finds her ENTIRE dressing room full of every 1958 Westinghouse appliance made. The most hilarious part is where he finds Lucy.
She is hiding, OBVIOUSLY in the hollowed out innards of the 1958 Westinghouse Stackable Laundromats. He unleashes a barrage of cuban slurs that make Mommie Dearest blush.
Also at the very beginning he keeps pronouncing
West-ing-house as Westin-ghouse.
It's Hilarious and if you havent seen it It's worth it. specially oif your a BIG Lucy fan. ther are great clips besides on there
Ciao'
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Post# 31493-8/10/2003-11:41 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: Seeing Pink (Impeler washers )
MESSAGE: Hey there Greg, what are the chances of seeing some links to some impeler driven washing machines. Many thanks HBMUK
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Post# 31494-8/10/2003-13:04 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Seeing Pink (What a great day for you Greg!)
MESSAGE: Greg,
That is such a beautiful Kenmore!
It looks like it is in such great shape!
Was it tucked away in a basement, and they kept it just because, or was it hooked up? I can't get over how nice it is! What fun!
Hope you also find lot's of cool ads in your collection of mags that you found!
Have fun washing!
Brent
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Post# 31495-8/10/2003-13:05 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: And Now...A Word From Our Sponsor, Westinghouse (How interesting.)
MESSAGE: I had no idea that they were including the commercials in the videos of the lost episodes!
Were these on VHS or DVD?
I kinda remember seeing these at Tower Records on DVD.
Very funny commercial.
Brent
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Post# 31496-8/10/2003-13:21 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: A moment of silence and respect, a death in applianceville
MESSAGE: My only true vintage appliance, my 25-year old Meal-In-One Litton Microwave just died. A bzzzzz and pop and it went dark. I've checked the plug and circuit breakers, all fine and working. No one would touch something this old to try and repair it, a microwave. So, I'm kinda sad. I bought this microwave in Houston, August, 1978.
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Post# 31497-8/10/2003-13:29 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Seeing Pink
MESSAGE: Greg, I'm tickled pink for ya. Wow, now you have two wringers. Hmm, between the two and the unimatic spinning, you can get a week's laundry done in an hour!!!.
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Post# 31498-8/10/2003-14:04 ||| Manor_Avenue (Fresno, CA)
SUBJECT: Is there a Maytag Repairman in the house?!
MESSAGE: Diagnostic questions for anyone with Maytag expertise: My A700/702 had been in storage for a long time after my move, and its timer dial won't push in (to stop wash action). Can 3-in-1 oil be administered to the spindle area to see if that will help? Also, the A700/702 shifts into spin speed and makes about five to eight revolutions before the tub just stops (as though the load became unbalanced). By the way, the Maytag was being tested while it was empty after plugging it in. I was thinking because of the fact that it shifts into high speed, it's not the transmission, but I cannot be sure. On the Maytag one-button model A906, the tub is over-filling when the FULL LOAD buttons are used. Is this a pressure switch that needs repair? I haven't checked into it yet, but wonder if anyone knows if pressure switches are still available. Thanks very much; I'd be appreciative of whatever assistance anyone can give me. George Hewett (Fresno, CA)
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Post# 31499-8/10/2003-15:21 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Westinghouse Front Loader
MESSAGE: Does anyone have a rough idea of when Westinghouse stopped making the front loaders with the door that opens to the side. I just ran across a machine with the side-opening door and am trying to get a model number off of it. It is not one of the stack units. Any ideas?
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Post# 31500-8/10/2003-17:25 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: A moment of silence and respect, a death in applianceville
MESSAGE: appnut, if you're up to it, there is a company in Dallas TX that stocks parts for old mw. There were able to get me a relay for my 1974 Wards MW. You will have to diagnois problem but they may help.
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Post# 31501-8/10/2003-18:32 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Seeing Pink (nice)
MESSAGE: nice pics Greg ..........
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Post# 31502-8/10/2003-18:39 ||| Gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: worked on Kitchen Aid today/gutted Mobile Maid
MESSAGE: finally took some time to try out the ' 63 Kitchen Aid DW that I picked up a couple months ago. Well the blower fan motor whines terribly, leaks around gasket/motor underneath, that will have to be replaced along with fan motor, I did get it to drain, but it will NOT fill, or main motor will NOT circulate, just hums .......... the timer does advance on its own, not sure if the motor is shot or the timer ?? fill valve solenoid ?? Anyways, also gutted, stripped down to just the cabinet, my ' 61 Mobile Maid with pink interior, the interior is totally shot, all bubbling up in the bottom, so I am going to have the interior professionally redone in the same fifties pink that it is now ............
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Post# 31503-8/10/2003-18:41 ||| Gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: Mobile Maid parts wanted
MESSAGE: Need the coupling for the lid and the coupling for the tub that directs the water to the power shower in the lid, could actually use a new power shower too ........... any direction or assistance is appreciated ......... year 1961, model STP40T1
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Post# 31504-8/11/2003-04:05 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: Washer Graveyard In Mallorca!!!....Latest Finds...
MESSAGE: Hi all
A lot of catching up to do after a few weeks away, just goes to show you`re never on holiday with our hobby, visited a monastery at Lluc in Mallorca and wondering through the gardens at the back was an "Art Space" where the monks had created a garden out of rusting junk....being high up in the mountains what else would you do but turn it into art!!!
On turning a corner we walked into this old tunnel washer as used in the laundry, couldnt get to see what replaced it!!!so here are the pics!!!!
Also it seems to be the time of year for wringer washers as with Gregs Pink find, heres my latest three:
1. Hotpoint Countess Wringer in cream, 1950`s model, small sister to the bigger Empress...
2. The English Electric "Big Load" wringer, just love all the controls and a massive stainless steel tub about the biggest of all the UK wringers...
and of course:
3. The Servis Powerglide model 17, produced 1957 as an alternative to the big wringers of the day for the smaller British Kitchen, using a Turbulator disc for the wash action...very neat wringer with "Active Foot Control" lever at the front, you can also fill and pump in this for "Active Rinsing"
Still no Servis MK41 Auto Top Loader or Hoover Keymatic, but hey, Having Fun with these.....
Cheers for now
Mike
LINK: http://uk.f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/bc/chestermikeuk/lst?.dir=/Latest+Finds!!!&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//uk.f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/
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Post# 31505-8/11/2003-04:40 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Seeing Pink (Wringer Style)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg
Seems to be all wringers at the moment!!!
Is the bar across the front of the wringer the emergency release bar???
Is the pump driven from the main wash motor or a seperate one?? All the wringers I have use just one motor with gears & levers to drive the pump and wringer etc..
Any interesting pics in the mags....
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 31506-8/11/2003-04:47 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Seeing Pink (Filter Flows and Impellers!!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Kev
Glad to see we have another UK member for the "Filter-Flo" gang...What model is yours the 9600 or 9605??, the vids are fab,great action shots!!!
You definatly need to fill it with hot water, these machines work great with swirling clouds of scented steam rising from them.
Have a look at the link for impeller twintubs and my latest find the Servis MK17 with Turbulator..
Let us know what you think
Cheers, Mike
LINK: http://uk.f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/bc/chestermikeuk/lst?.dir=/Latest+Finds!!!&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//uk.f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/
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Post# 31507-8/11/2003-05:14 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: A moment of silence and respect, a death in applianceville (dead microwave)
MESSAGE: You can check and see if it's just a fuse (you'll have to take off the case to check. If not, check obvious stuff like burned switches, etc. If you really love it, you can probably get a new magnetron for it. Sometimes people will work on it if you do all the reseraach and parts procurement before taking it in. The fuse blew once on my 1978 Wards (Sharp) microwave and the serviceman didn't balk at fixing it, and it's STILL going, although a little slow by today's standards (600 watts vs. average 1000 watts in today's ovens)
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Post# 31508-8/11/2003-05:16 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Is there a Maytag Repairman in the house?! (timer lubrication)
MESSAGE: Don't squirt anything heavier than WD-40 into timers, they'll get get gummed up.
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Post# 31509-8/11/2003-08:42 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: A moment of silence and respect, a death in applianceville (dead microwave)
MESSAGE: My magic wand says Diode and a fuse.
Find someone there that can fix it for you. It's not a hard fix. 'waves from the 70s are pretty simple.
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Post# 31510-8/11/2003-10:08 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: goodbye mobile maid
MESSAGE: well after considering cost to redo the interior of the '61 mobile maid and have the seam re-welded where it came apart, I have decided to say goodbye to it. So I have stripped it for parts and will obviously keep the parts ..........
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Post# 31511-8/11/2003-11:24 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Seeing Pink (Filter Flows and Impellers!!!)
MESSAGE: Wait a minute, is this our "Kev" from the other Yahoo clubs?? I thought this was a completely different, new person! Kev, I am so glad you are here even if I didn't know just who you were 'til now!
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Post# 31512-8/11/2003-11:25 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Washer Graveyard In Mallorca!!!....Latest Finds...
MESSAGE: Mikey, I hope you had a wonderful holiday! I called the day before you left and you were off on some errand. Hopefully we will hook up this week! I am checking out your pictures slowly but surely, Yahoo is having fits and starts but I've really enjoyed those I've seen thus far!
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Post# 31513-8/11/2003-12:46 ||| Manor_Avenue (Fresno, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Is there a Maytag Repairman in the house?! (timer lubrication)
MESSAGE: It dawned on me later in the day after I posted my question, I should have mentioned either oil or WD-40. Thanks for replying.
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Post# 31514-8/11/2003-17:02 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: Seeing Pink (Filter Flows and Impellers!!!)
MESSAGE: Kev is me hairybigmanuk lol
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Post# 31515-8/11/2003-17:07 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: Seeing Pink (Filter Flows and Impellers!!!)
MESSAGE: MIKE I COULD KISS YOU, you have made a 40 year old man feel very young again. you have found the washer that my mum god rest her, used to use for the family wash. Servis single tub it was a brilliant little machine, My machine is a 9605 Hotpoint tl.
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Post# 31516-8/11/2003-17:17 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Seeing Pink (Filter Flows and Impellers!!!)
MESSAGE: You used to call yourself something else besides HBMUK, but I knew you as Kev because you signed as Kev, and Mike has spoken of you a number of times. Mike was the friend in the UK I once mentioned to you here, but you already know him! :)
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Post# 31517-8/11/2003-17:34 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: Seeing Pink (Filter Flows and Impellers!!!)
MESSAGE: I know a lot of guys, its hard to keep up :-) Some times I sign as HBMUK or Kev
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Post# 31518-8/11/2003-17:43 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Seeing Pink (Filter Flows and Impellers!!!)
MESSAGE: You probably know then, that Mike has two washers like the Hotpoint one you just acquired. Is yours spinning ok now? I don't recall Mike's machine having any problem with stability during the spin. Have you acquired your new tumbler yet? Scott
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Post# 31519-8/11/2003-18:03 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: Seeing Pink (Filter Flows and Impellers!!!)
MESSAGE: As a matter of concern I had the engineer out to day to check the washer over, he says its all ok and gave me some advise on how to load it and what type of loads to wash. As a top loader can not redistribute an unbalanced load, the engineer advised me to wash like for like items for example 5 or 6 standard size bath towels, two duvet covers and 4 pillow slips, or even 2 to 3 double bed sheets. I did this today with a load of towels and my goodness what a difference, there was hardly any vibration at all. So all is well now that I know, it was just teething troubles. Oh yeah I got my new tumble drier, my partner had come into some money and decided to get me something, as a big thank you for all the love and support I gave him over 17 years. regards to all hbmuk
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Post# 31520-8/11/2003-22:03 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Seeing Pink (What fun!!)
MESSAGE: Hi guys -- it was fun to find a pink appliance, I'm getting closer to having an entirely pink kitchen and laundry (well, some in storage) now I just need a dryer and although I love the wringer in pink, an automatic washer would be a little more handy for my active lifestyle ;-)
The air purifier was an ACME brand (made in St. Louis, MO) and was simply a transformer and four ozone bulbs in a metal box that just used natural convection to circulate the air through the open top and bottom. I took the bulbs out and tossed the rest but I was amazed at how much you could smell the 'ozone' coming from the box - too much of a good thing really. although I've only seen one ozone bulb burned out in a dryer, it's handy to have spares.
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Post# 31521-8/11/2003-22:08 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Seeing Pink (Impeler washers )
MESSAGE: Hi - you may have already seen this in my album, but here are some scans of a Hoover twinnie brochure from the late 70's-early 80's and the same machine I had for a while years ago. I had a Maytag Porta-Washer but traded it off to Jimmy for a top-loading dishwasher. They are fun machines but with our affection for size and speed in this country, not as popular as the Euro cousins.
LINK: http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Ads+Articles+Brochures&.dnm=Hoover+Washer.jpg&.view=t
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Post# 31522-8/11/2003-22:10 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: goodbye mobile maid
MESSAGE: Oh no! That's too bad, but you have a great stash of parts for another when you find it, and at the rate you've been going, it won't be long!
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Post# 31523-8/11/2003-22:11 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: A moment of silence and respect, a death in applianceville (dead microwave)
MESSAGE: That little store in Iowa that we've been to a few times has brand new Littons still in the box!
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Post# 31524-8/11/2003-22:15 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Washer Graveyard In Mallorca!!!....Latest Finds...
MESSAGE: Wow - what cool finds. You've done a nice job restoring them, they look great!
I can't get over the size difference in our wringers - my Kenmore seems just gigantic to some of the smaller portables you have! What do you think the capacity in gallons/liters is of your English Electric?
Fantastic pics and articles - thanks for sharing them with us!
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Post# 31525-8/11/2003-22:18 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Seeing Pink (What fun!!)
MESSAGE: I spent some time working on the Pink "K" last night, replaced the cord and drain hose, cleaned out the junk from the pump and got it running smoothly again and gave it a water test. It runs like a charm, nice a smooth and the pump works great too. I took a pic of it running with water, you can just make out the pump running back into the tub. Now I have to find a place for it...I think Robert has some extra room now ;-)
LINK: http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/New+pics&.dnm=She+works!!.jpg&.view=t
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Post# 31526-8/12/2003-08:08 ||| JoeEkaitis (Rialto, California, USA)
SUBJECT: 8/12 POD or How Urban Legends Begin
MESSAGE: If today's Picture of the Day (Hotpoint Lady Executive washer ad) had run in magazines today, GE would be accused of anti-Semitism and ties to Hitler.
Look closely at the door on the sideboard to the left of the washer. Yes, those ARE swastikas but most likely the pre-Nazi Asian variety. Swastikas even appear in American Indian symbolism, and the Boy Scouts once offered an merit badge called the Order of the White Swastika. The badge was permanently retired when Hitler rose to power.
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Post# 31527-8/12/2003-08:51 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: goodbye mobile maid (funny you say)
MESSAGE: funny you say that greg, I found another mobile maid on the side of the road last night, a much newer model, early seventies, very basic, good shape, people in the house said it works and to just take it, picked up a seventies GE A/C as well, not sure what is wrong with that yet ............
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Post# 31528-8/12/2003-08:52 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Seeing Pink (What fun!!)
MESSAGE: very cool looking greg, love the color .........
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Post# 31529-8/12/2003-11:14 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Washer Graveyard In Mallorca!!!....Latest Finds...
MESSAGE: Hey Mike,
Lovely finds, especially the Servis! BTW, Mallorca sounds good for a European convention!
Louis
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Post# 31530-8/12/2003-11:21 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Seeing Pink (What fun!!)
MESSAGE: Greg, how wonderful that it's running fine. I guess the wringer is electric?
BTW, how many guestrooms do you have?
Louis
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Post# 31531-8/12/2003-12:26 ||| mulls (Johnson City,Tn)
SUBJECT: POD
MESSAGE: As efficient and dependable as todays appliances are,they have absolutely no personality-and the same could be said for todays cars.This beautiful Hotpoint stands proud and distinctive.Or maybe I am just getting old....
Tom
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Post# 31532-8/12/2003-19:52 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Westinghouse Laundromat Dryer for sale
MESSAGE: Hi guys.
I purchased a 1951 Westinghouse Laundromat dryer at an estate sale about a year ago, and have decided I don't have the time or desire to work on it. Thought I would post the message here first, and then add it to the "For Sale" file on the Applianceville site.
The cabinet is yellowed from age, but there is only slight corrosion, and it works very well. Even the drum door gasket looks fine. Of course it has the (working) "How Dry I Am" finished cycle chime. It will be sold at a very reasonable price. In the event I can't sell it, I'll certainly hang on to it for now, but restoring it and/or finding the matching washer is just not a priority in my life at the moment.
If anyone is seriously interested in buying it, please let me know.
Thanks,
Ken
kennywhy@att.net
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Post# 31533-8/13/2003-17:28 ||| Manor_Avenue (Fresno, CA)
SUBJECT: Parts question:1961 Frigidaire WCD62 washer
MESSAGE: I'm told by Marcone appliance parts that the pump repair kit for the 1961 Frigidaire WCD62 is no longer available. Does anyone know of any other possible sources, or is there a later model Frigidaire pump that could be interchanged for the original? Thanks -- George (Fresno, CA) ghewett@daklaw.com
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Post# 31534-8/13/2003-17:57 ||| Partscounterman (ST PAUL, MN)
SUBJECT: MAYTAG DUTCH OVEN
MESSAGE: ANYONE LOOKING FOR A MAYTAG DUTCH OVEN? THERE IS A PRETTY NICE ONE SITTING IN THE GRAVEYARD IN BACK OF THE SHOP I WORK AT. IF ANYONE CAN MAKE TO 800 WHITE BEAR AVE IN ST. PAUL, MN BEFORE THE SCRAPPER TAKES IT TO THE GOBBLE-GOAT. I'D KEEP IT MYSELF, BUT AM MOVING TO HAWAII SOON AND GOD ONLY KNOWS WHAT SHIPPING WOULD BE.
WE ALSO HAVE AN OLD DEAD FRIGIDAIRE RANGE BACK THERE THAT IS IN A SHADE OF GRAY-BLUE THAT I'VE NEVER SEEN. ANY APPLIANCE MAVENS THAT KNOW THE NAME OF THIS COLOR? RANGE LOOKS TO BE FROM THE MID TO LATE 60'S
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Post# 31535-8/13/2003-18:08 ||| Neptune2000 (Florence, Sc)
SUBJECT: Today's POD.
MESSAGE: I have one of these Exact dryers still in weekly use - in a rental property. Logic tells me that it could go down at any time - and I am not a fixer. When / if, it " dies " I will simply replace it with some generic nameless etc.
My question - in advance - is this: Does anyone want it? You'll have to come get it - but it'll be a freebie... I'm in
Eastern SC. Let me know if you have any interest.
Thanks.
Neptune2000
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Post# 31536-8/13/2003-18:13 ||| Partscounterman (ST PAUL, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: POD
MESSAGE: And who doesn't love a washer with a detergent dispenser so you can wash twice and rinse twice! Drought? What drought?
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Post# 31537-8/13/2003-18:47 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: another Mobile Maid
MESSAGE: Can't believe on the day I decided to throw out the cabinet on my '61 pink interior mobile maid (which I did not throw out), I found another mobile maid amongst the trash at the end of a driveway the same night, this is a very basic, bottom of the line, top-load, early seventies model, just needed a good cleaning and some silicon on the rust spot in the bottom and it works great. I also found at the same house, a mid-seventies (guessing) GE "Fashoinette" window AC, it was FILTHY, but after a good cleaning, I plugged it in and it works perfectly ..........., pics will be posted in a few weeks ...........
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Post# 31538-8/13/2003-19:07 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: another Mobile Maid (Another Mobile Maid !!!!)
MESSAGE: Looking forward to seeing the pic's Greg. Michael
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Post# 31539-8/13/2003-19:36 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD.
MESSAGE: Don't scrap that one! Parts are still available. For what it would cost to repair this old one, you couldn't replace it even with a generic junker.....and if you repaired the old one, it would be MUCH better than anything you could buy nowadays! Best of luck with it. Mark
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Post# 31540-8/13/2003-19:40 ||| alr2903 (new orleans)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse Front Loader (westy f/l)
MESSAGE: Hi Todd, In answer to your question I would say around 1970, seems like westy used the side hinged doors mostly on the spacemates, but there were freestanding models. with the big door and the small window. They also were real proud of that bottom hinged weigh-to-save door, that i believe lasted until the end of the WCI version, last model before the Fridgemore. Wish someone would post a lot of westy material. Yo Todd how's things? :-)
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Post# 31541-8/13/2003-20:13 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Parts question:1961 Frigidaire WCD62 washer (part number?)
MESSAGE: Hi again George.
How about posting the Frigidaire/GM part number for the pump repair kit. Maybe some of the people on our site can check around with their local suppliers or part connections/sources for one.
Just a hopeful thought.
Ken
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Post# 31542-8/13/2003-22:17 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: MAYTAG DUTCH OVEN
MESSAGE: Well, I'm closer to the area. How big is this dutch oven? I might not have room for it, but if it has good collector value I may be interested in fixing it up. As for the Frigidaire, I'll have to look at that and see if it's a Flair. If so, then I may be able to use that even if I can find an apartment that would let me connect it.
MrCoffee
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Post# 31543-8/14/2003-07:53 ||| JoeEkaitis (Rialto, California, USA)
SUBJECT: And the spooky part about today's (08/14/03) POD. . .
MESSAGE: Maytag commercial washers STILL LOOK LIKE THIS!! It's like whole laundromats are stuck in the 1970s! It's CREEPY!! :)
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Post# 31544-8/14/2003-12:53 ||| Manor_Avenue (Fresno, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Parts question:1961 Frigidaire WCD62 washer (part number?)
MESSAGE: I believe the part number for the pump repair kit for the Frigidaire WCD62 is 6599434 (that's what Marcone listed in its reply e-mail to me). Thanks for your help.
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Post# 31545-8/14/2003-18:37 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: DW history and other stuff
MESSAGE: anyone ever seen this site ??
LINK: http://www.gizmohighway.com/pages/history/dishwasher.htm
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Post# 31546-8/14/2003-18:39 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD. (I agree)
MESSAGE: I agree totally with Mark, hold onto it, and if the model # says WCD-62 it is probably a 1962 machine and not a 1961 ...
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Post# 31547-8/14/2003-20:39 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: DW history and other stuff (Cool!)
MESSAGE: What a great link Greg!
Thanks
Brent
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Post# 31548-8/15/2003-02:05 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: And the spooky part about today's (08/14/03) POD. . .
MESSAGE: I agree, but a lot of maytag laundramats still are in the 70s since those maytags never give up.
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Post# 31549-8/15/2003-08:44 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: Easy Spin Dryer
MESSAGE: although my space is limited, i was at local appliance
graveyard.....california appliance recylcing factory
and picked up easy spin dryer i would say early
1950's vintage....works great and have already done
a few loads of laundry in it...lots of fun,
especially the spin dryer...
i am still waiting for my 1947 bendix to come
back from appliance recycling...they have the only
mechanic i know of who can fix these machines but
it takes time...they are also working on pair of
1956 frigidaires jet cone washer and matching
electric dryer
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Post# 31550-8/15/2003-08:46 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: frigidaire jet cone washer
MESSAGE: hi there....there is a yellow frigidaire jet cone
washer...a bit scratched up and being worked on
by mechanic at....california appliance recycling
factory in riverside, california...it is for sale
if interested you can call 800 270 2775 and ask for
jed....tell him ross roberts referred you.
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Post# 31551-8/15/2003-10:46 ||| Helen (Washington)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire Flair Stove
MESSAGE: I have a Frigidaire Flair stove that has four burners on a pull-out cooktop. When pulling the cooktop out or pushing it in, there is an intermediate stop so it can be used with just two burners sticking out. The problem is that the cooktop is stuck in that middle position. When I push the release tab, the cooktop will not move forward or back. When I try to close it or open it while holding the release tab down, I can feel that there is some pressure on the tab, so maybe that is the problem. Can anyone help? I'd really appreciate it!!
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Post# 31552-8/15/2003-12:59 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Easy Spin Dryer (Re: Frigidiare's:)
MESSAGE: Hi! Ross, I just wanted to let you know that the "Jet-Cone" Title didn't come out until around 1965, when they started calling the Washer the "Jet-Action" Wash System and the
"Jet-Away" Lint Removal. If anyone told you that the Washer you are referring to as a Jet-Action, it would and could only be because they have altered the Pulsator, by replacing the original one with a "Jet-Cone" Pulsator.
Peace, Steve, SactoTeddyBear...
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Post# 31553-8/15/2003-17:42 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD. (I agree)
MESSAGE: So then, can I assume that the WCD61 I found is a 1961 model? I still need to determine if it even works or not, but I know for sure that the bottom crossbrace is rusted through and needs replacement. I believe this can be repaired, but anyone have any idea as to part number or where I might find this?
Other than that rust, it looks to be in reasonable cosmetic shape. But the rust at the bottom of the cabinet and the crossbrace make me wonder what caused it in the first place? Sitting in water or an incredibly damp basement? Or perhaps a slow leak - water pump or internal hose? Any thoughts, ideas????
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Post# 31554-8/15/2003-18:35 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: Easy Spin Dryer (Re: Frigidiare's:)
MESSAGE: Steve my hotmail is still down, I have had to downgrade to WIN ME on account of the blaster virus. I need your address to post your platic Persil dispenser balls. (OH PLEASE I KNOW SOME OF YOU ARE LAUGHING NOW) HBMUK
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Post# 31555-8/15/2003-18:49 ||| Manor_Avenue (Fresno, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: frigidaire jet cone washer (Yellow Frigidaire & Parts question)
MESSAGE: I called and spoke to Jed at California Appliance Recycling in Riverside, CA, to find out about the yellow Frigidaire. He said he thought it was about a '68 model. Was curious to know if there's somewhere I could see a picture of that year's Frigidaire, or is it the same as 1966 (I know where there's an add for the '66 washer)? Also, for the WCD62 model Frigidaire, is there anything that can be done to replace the pump or find a pump kit? I'm told that the pump and kit are obsolete. Is there anything later than 1962 that can be adapted to fit? Thanks -- George Hewett (Fresno, CA); ghewett@daklaw.com
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Post# 31556-8/15/2003-18:56 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: Hotpoint washer T L update
MESSAGE: As you know I am the proud owner of a 1980s Hotpoint T L Deluxe, after a few problems with vibrations, due to the washer sitting on the edge of the underlay under the kitchen carpet. This has been rectified by cutting some of the underlay from the under neath of the carpet, the machine is running very well now. Unlike a front loader I have been advised to wash like for like things for example 2 to 3 double sheets, or 5 to about 7 standard bath towels to spin the load out evenly. Well this works beutifully now, one thing I have noticed on the things I wash. The agitator does an exellent job of keeping the cloths on the move, when I wash things like denim the lint in the agitator filter there is quite a bit. So I have to push one of the buttons on the machine for gentle wash when I wash my every day clothes. Normal wash cycle is too heavy, the same goes for sheets and duvets the normal wash cycle its also to heavy. This ware and tare can be reduced, by a lower speed and shorter wash time, regards to one and all HBMUK
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Post# 31557-8/15/2003-23:33 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: frigidaire jet cone washer (Yellow Frigidaire & Parts question)
MESSAGE: I also called Jed today and he told me that this is a model "WS" and it had holes in the basket - not a solid tub, so that would make this a 1-18 washer from about 1976-77, in warm, inviting Harvest Gold.
If you strike out hunting for a pump kit for your '62, you might be able to wire in an electric pump (like in a front-loader) and still use the washer, not entirely "original and authentic" but better than not having it at all!
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Post# 31558-8/16/2003-00:03 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Flair Stove
MESSAGE: Can you reach the latch release mechanism for the pull-out cooktop through the burner openings? It might just need a little cleaning and drop of oil on the latch pin that holds it in the selected position.
Best of luck - Greg
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Post# 31559-8/16/2003-07:54 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: DW history and other stuff (cool machine)
MESSAGE: The pic in this article is very cool. Any idea what make it is ? Michael
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Post# 31560-8/16/2003-11:48 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD. (I agree(pic?))
MESSAGE: Angus, I would like to see a pic of your '61 and see if it is like mine ...... I would like to think that the crossbrace could be welded ?? not sure though ..... the rust could have been caused by any of that you mentioned, do you see rust around the bottom of the tub and/or mechanism??
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Post# 31561-8/16/2003-12:57 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: Easy Spin Dryer (Re: Frigidiare's:)
MESSAGE: Hi Steve your balls are on the way, I posted them this afternoon. Now I know some OUR people are laughing now. Just to satify peoples curiosity, I was asked by Steve SACTOTEDDYBEAR to get him 2 plastic persil liquid dispensor balls, so there lol regards all HBMUK
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Post# 31562-8/16/2003-13:35 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Vintage Detergent for Vintage Washers
MESSAGE: I went to a few sales today and found 19 boxes of vintage soap flakes, some LaFrance bluing powder and 5 boxes of Dash! I've been wanting to find some vintage Dash for some time now as it was about the only detergent we used growing up in our GE FilterFlo washer and then to find 5 all at once! I posted a pic of the haul today -
LINK: http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/New+pics&.dnm=New+detergent+finds.jpg&.view=t
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Post# 31563-8/16/2003-16:49 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Detergent for Vintage Washers
MESSAGE: Congrats Greg!! I went to one sale this morning and found a big box full of All, Cold Power and Cheer. I carried it up there and was told that it was not for sale. If all those blue haired bittys weren't around I would have said a bit more than I did. But oh well, that's life.
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Post# 31564-8/16/2003-16:56 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Westinghouse Laundromat Dryer for sale
MESSAGE: Ken,
Any chance of seeing pictures of the dryer?
-Alex
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Post# 31565-8/16/2003-18:40 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Detergent for Vintage Washers
MESSAGE: What a wonderful collection of laundry products Greg! Enjoy!
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Post# 31566-8/16/2003-18:41 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Detergent for Vintage Washers
MESSAGE: Hi Sweetie, have you ever heard of anything so silly? I mean what, exactly, do they they are going to do with the products, after the sale?
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Post# 31567-8/16/2003-18:54 ||| FilterFlo (Coventry Twp, Ohio)
SUBJECT: A Landmark Week of Appliance Finds!
MESSAGE: Boy, what a week! I have had some amazing finds. I finally got something I have wanted for a long time. A BENDIX DUOMATIC washer/dryer combo! Its in excellent shape, and seems to only need the rubber door gasket to make it functional. (Ha, ONLY the door gasket!) The date stamped on the inside is January 1953. You have not lived until you have had to haul one of these units out of a tight basement stairway. It took three of us 2 hours of backbraking work to get it. But its here. Yay!
I also picked up another Easy Spin Dryer, working unit, but rough case so I posted parts for sale in the classifieds, if anyone need parts this is your chance. Its going to the junkyard by next week.
I also had a VERY interesting find. I did an estate sale for the son connected with an estate of a man who used to run a laundromat in the 50's 60's and 70's. Everything from the shop was long gone 10yrs ago, except one item they kept in the basement of a rental they owned. A Bendix-Dexter Double Loader coin op washer! I was able to buy it from the son, and we moved it yesterday. Its a working unit, and is a bolt down machine. Dont ask me where Im going to put all this stuff, but I just cant pass it up! Pics to be posted soon!
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Post# 31568-8/16/2003-22:30 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Detergent for Vintage Washers (Great Display!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg, What a great find!! Was this a household sale? Makes one wonder why they would have so much of each product. I know that you will love using the DASH it was a favorite of our family too. I love the way you had them all displayed on the table. Happy Washing!!
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Post# 31569-8/16/2003-22:34 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: A Landmark Week of Appliance Finds! (Congratulations!!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Jimmy, Boy the washer "gods" were smiling on you!! I am very happy for you. I have such great memories of the Bendix Duomatic. They were wonderful machines. It was such fun when I was at Greg's to be able to use his! Have fun with your new machines. Terry
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Post# 31570-8/16/2003-23:55 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Detergent for Vintage Washers
MESSAGE: I had the same thing happen to me with an unopened box of Oxydol, I was floored when they told me it wasn't for sale. After looking around this filthy house and it's contents, I wondered why they hadn't used it before opening the doors!
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Post# 31571-8/17/2003-00:03 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: A Landmark Week of Appliance Finds!
MESSAGE: Excellent finds Jimmy, it must be Bendix month in Ohio! I can relate to the moving process, I was lucky with my Duomatic, the shipping braces had never been removed so the tub didn't bang around inside the cabinet, but 425 pounds is still a huge undertaking to move anywhere!
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Post# 31572-8/17/2003-08:11 ||| Dick_S. (Palm Springs vicinity)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Detergent for Vintage Washers
MESSAGE: Dash was a great low sudsing detergent. I remember using it for years. Loved the fragrance AND it did a great job on our clothes.
I've got a question. Do you or any members ever run across boxes of the old White King flakes (marketed before they came out with the White King detergent)? Oh, how I remember those 100 % white cotton sheets sloshing around in that old Bendix tumbler and that wonderful fragrance wafting throughout the house from a mixture of hot water, White King flakes, clorox and bluing! Sure would like to get my hands on some of those flakes again.
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Post# 31573-8/17/2003-08:52 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Detergent for Vintage Washers
MESSAGE: Hey Greg, wonderful detergent finds! I have never found a vintage box of Dash before which makes me wonder if it wasn't as popular as some of the other brands. This woman must have stocked up for the A-bomb that never came.
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Post# 31574-8/17/2003-09:46 ||| JoeEkaitis (Rialto, California, USA)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Detergent for Vintage Washers (sibling rivalry)
MESSAGE: Dash was Procter & Gamble's low-sudsing contender back when Westinghouse Laundromats and other front-loaders still owned a substantial chunk of the market. Domestic water softeners were also taking off at the time, so a few households wanted a low-sudsing detergent for their top loaders.
P&G marketed Dash as the answer to the over-sudsing in front-load washers and top-loaders filled with softened water caused by their self-proclaimed washday miracle, Tide. Over time, top-loaders took over more than 95% of the market and Dash disappeared.
With front loaders and high-efficiency top loaders growing in popularity, P&G brought back Dash.
Only this time, they're calling it Tide HE.
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Post# 31575-8/17/2003-11:13 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: 1961 Frigidaire Spin Tube Dishmobile
MESSAGE: Hey guys I know I keep saying I am not a collector & really want just one cool dishwasher for the breakfast bar but it appears there are so many cool machines out there & keep finding me. (must be that big horse shoe) This 61 spin tube dishmobile came to me. Fantastic shape. Using it today for the first time but not sure how to load it, Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I keep looking for a Pink interior GE Mobile Maid or a KA but everything else keeps popping up. My whole collection is for trade for the right machine. Who knows , just when you least expect it. Pic's will follow ASAP. Again any loading instructions would be greatly appreciated. Michael
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Post# 31576-8/17/2003-12:16 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: A Landmark Week of Appliance Finds!
MESSAGE: Excellent finds, Jimmy! There are lots of those old FL's out there still working in the field. Parts are readily available thru Dexter. I believe Dexter made those machines thru 1996.
-ph
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Post# 31577-8/17/2003-12:26 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Clean '03 show pics
MESSAGE: I tried this link in the Sandbox, but it doesn't seem to work. Here's the link, and we can discuss them "over there"...
-ph
LINK: http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/peterh770/lst?.dir=/Clean+%2703&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/
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Post# 31578-8/17/2003-12:51 ||| Manor_Avenue (Fresno, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: frigidaire jet cone washer (Yellow Frigidaire & Parts question(Electric pump))
MESSAGE: Thanks for the electric pump tip. Do you know of a part number for an electric pump that will work being as everybody at parts places is telling me that I'm just outta luck? Thanks.
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Post# 31579-8/17/2003-13:02 ||| Manor_Avenue (Fresno, CA)
SUBJECT: Question re Frigidaire model number
MESSAGE: Which model number would have been correct for a 1963 Frigidaire, AIR63 or ARI63?
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Post# 31580-8/17/2003-13:07 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Detergent for Vintage Washers (P&G in Europe)
MESSAGE: Overhere in the Netherlands Dash has been available as long as I can remember as a detergent for frontloaders. It has never been off the market here, although some decades ago they added a built in softener and Dash is marketed here as that being cheaper than using detergent and a separate softener. Ofcourse Ariel is P&G's leading brand here. Besides Dash and Ariel they offered Vizir overhere in a box that was rather similar to the Tide box. I think it's not longer on the market here.
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Post# 31581-8/17/2003-15:05 ||| Kevinmaher1 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: Delete profile
MESSAGE: Hi, I love the site and restore old appliances. But, I am receiving hundreds of unwanted emails. can anyone tell me how to delete my profile from this site?
I have tried again and again to delete it to no avail.
Thanks,
Kevin Maher 1, 2, 3, 4,
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Post# 31582-8/17/2003-17:17 ||| JoeEkaitis (Rialto, California, USA)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Detergent for Vintage Washers (Oxydol, BIZ, . .could Dash be next?)
MESSAGE: Redox Brands, Inc. acquires the rights to trademarks no longer used in the USA and slaps them on products made for them, like Oxydol laundry detergent and BIZ all-fabric bleach.
If high efficiency washers make a big enough dent in the market over here, Redox would be wise to resurrect Dash for their low-sudsing laundry detergent.
Just a thought. :)
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Post# 31583-8/17/2003-18:38 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: for those who have not seen it
MESSAGE: Only for those who have not seen it, here is my link for my Hotpoint site Regards to all HBMUK
LINK: http://www.kevinkunsworth.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/hotpoint/Hotpoint.html
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Post# 31584-8/17/2003-19:51 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: A Landmark Week of Appliance Finds! (congrads)
MESSAGE: awesome Jimmy, congrads ...............
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Post# 31585-8/17/2003-20:52 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: A Landmark Week of Appliance Finds! ( Landmark Week of Appliance Finds)
MESSAGE: Wow Jimmy
That's realy a Great find
Best of Luck
Peter
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Post# 31586-8/17/2003-21:02 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Delete profile
MESSAGE: The 'damage' has already been done to a degree (the spammers have gotten your address (if you've never gotten unwanted emails before, you've been damn lucky), but a simple solution is to change the email addy on your profile to something fake.
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Post# 31587-8/17/2003-21:14 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Detergent for Vintage Washers
MESSAGE: Hi - I don't recall ever seeing any White King branded products in this area, could this have been a store brand? I think there is a box of White King detergent on ebay that I saw the other day.
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Post# 31588-8/17/2003-21:15 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Detergent for Vintage Washers
MESSAGE: This was a three story house packed with stuff, I was surprised to see all these laundry products also - all in the attic.
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Post# 31589-8/17/2003-21:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1961 Frigidaire Spin Tube Dishmobile
MESSAGE: I can't believe your luck - congrats on another very cool find!
What is your ultimate dream machine to find? That '54 GE mobile Maid was sure a beauty!
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Post# 31590-8/17/2003-21:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: frigidaire jet cone washer (Yellow Frigidaire & Parts question(Electric pump))
MESSAGE: Just ask for a Frigidaire front-load washer pump or a GE washer pump, they'll know what you want - just don't tell them what it's for ;-)
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Post# 31591-8/17/2003-21:29 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Question re Frigidaire model number
MESSAGE: What appliance is this for? Wash model numbers would all start with "W" and dryers with "D" The rest of the letters would indicate the particular model and features you are looking at (eg. CD = Custom Deluxe, CI = Custom Imperial and so on.)
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Post# 31592-8/17/2003-21:47 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Question re Frigidaire model number
MESSAGE: Could it be (something starting with "A") Range Imperial 63?
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Post# 31593-8/17/2003-22:54 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Question re Frigidaire model number
MESSAGE: Ranges always started with "R" There was an ARW window air conditioner in 63, the window air cond. line and some of the early refrigerators were the only appliances in my Frigidaire model identifier that used "A" as the first letter of a model designation.
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Post# 31594-8/18/2003-05:19 ||| Daniel (Belgium)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire Refrigerator of the fifties Relay Wiring diagram wanted
MESSAGE: Hi everyone, I'm living in Belgium, and I have a passion with all of the american fifties items. I have a little problem with an old Frigidaire fridge (model seems to be DO-90 written on the black cover at the rear of the appliance) I bought a new solid state start relay, made the connections according to instructions, it starts one time and I tought everything was OK. But now, the RCU of the fuse box is allways shutting. I'm not sur of the connections at the compressor terminals. Coud anyone help me finding a solution?
Thank's a lot.
Daniel
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Post# 31595-8/18/2003-05:52 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Detergent for Vintage Washers (Oxydol, BIZ, . .could Dash be next?)
MESSAGE:
They could do the same thing with Rinso, Lifebuoy and Lux soaps (Lever Brothers) and some other brands. When Redox bought the Oxydol and Biz names, there was much publicity about their mission and how they were going to bring back lots of old names. That was a few years ago and I haven't seen anything other than those two names. Actually, their Oxydol was in a few stores for a short while, but it has disappeared from the shelves here - not terribly popular I guess. I think that reintroducing a brand is tough and not a guaranteed success. However, Lever Bros did that successfully with Surf. That name was gone from 1970 to 1985. But I think the key to success or failure is ADVERTISING. When Surf was first reintroduced, there was lots of advertising. For the past several years, nothing. And now Surf has been combined with the All brand and has effectively disappeared again.
And while this is not a vintage detergent topic - it is official. Surf tablets have been discontinued. I checked with Lever Bros. Wisk tabs will remain and they have told me that a HE version of All is "in the works" . Why it is "in the works" is a mystery since there is already an institutional version of All that is HE......
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Post# 31596-8/18/2003-05:57 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Detergent for Vintage Washers
MESSAGE: Greg - White King was a west coast regional brand - probably never seen any farther east than Denver or Salt Lake City. I don't remember the company that made it - I want to say the Los Angeles Detergent Company and they might have even been acquired by Huish Detergents that makes some of the odd brands we see here on our shelves like Sun Detergent.....
In fact I remember when I lived in LA for a while there were several odd regional brands - like Citrus (soap) and Vogue Detergent.
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Post# 31597-8/18/2003-08:58 ||| Activator (Tulsa, OK)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Detergent for Vintage Washers (Oxydol, BIZ, . .could Dash be next?)
MESSAGE: While shopping for groceries the other night, I found Oxydol on the shelf. Naturally, I was glad to see an old "friend", and picked up the box with every intent of immediate purchase.
But I put it down again as I read the instructions for use, which were written in tiresome, "hip" language...something between a Valley Girl and Dobie Gillis. Besides that, I don't like to buy detergents unless I know what they smell like, and the seal was especially good on this box.
Call me old-fashioned (which is why I belong here) but I REALLY want Oxydol to have green bleaching crystals the way the good Lord intended...is that too much to ask?
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Post# 31598-8/18/2003-10:21 ||| Pulsator (826 Vesper ,Ann Arbor, Michigan 48103)
SUBJECT: I am back with a sad story...
MESSAGE: Well I just got back from a week long vacation to Ocean City, MD. I was so excited to see that our romm had a Kenmore Penta-Vane washer with matching dryer. I did at least one load in it a night. It looked new! It was still shiny and clean the washer still had the energy guide sticker on it. The tub was still dark and un-used looking. On the last day with the last load, it broke. The timer I suspect, it was filling for rinse and then drained instead of agitating. Poor thing. Lets all say a sweet good bye. I you are wondering, yes I did take pictures, and I will try to post them.
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Post# 31599-8/18/2003-10:23 ||| Pulsator (826 Vesper ,Ann Arbor, Michigan 48103)
SUBJECT: British washing machines?
MESSAGE: Does anyone know these machines?
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2340614247&category=20714
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Post# 31600-8/18/2003-10:58 ||| Manor_Avenue (Fresno, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Question re Frigidaire model number (ARI/AIR63 Model number)
MESSAGE: This is supposedly the model number of a Frigidaire washer, 1963. Somebody must have read the model number panel incorrectly. I'll have to ask them to try again. Thanks.
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Post# 31601-8/18/2003-10:59 ||| Manor_Avenue (Fresno, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Question re Frigidaire model number (ARI/AIR63 Model number)
MESSAGE: Thanks very much for the info. It's looking as though somebody misread the model number panel on the back.
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Post# 31602-8/18/2003-11:00 ||| Manor_Avenue (Fresno, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Question re Frigidaire model number (ARI/AIR63 model number)
MESSAGE: No, this is definitely a jet-action washer.
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Post# 31603-8/18/2003-11:06 ||| Manor_Avenue (Fresno, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: frigidaire jet cone washer (Yellow Frigidaire & Parts question(Electric pump))
MESSAGE: Most everybody usually asks me for a model or part number. What would I tell them in that case? Thanks -- George
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Post# 31604-8/18/2003-11:07 ||| Manor_Avenue (Fresno, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: frigidaire jet cone washer (Yellow Frigidaire & Parts question(Electric pump))
MESSAGE: Most everybody usually asks me for a model or part number. What would I tell them if they tell me they can't help me without a model number? I made the mistake of doing the "live chat" thing with Frigidaire this a.m., and I'll bet you can guess how far THAT got me. They got out of it by saying that they're forbidden from advising customers on product modifications for "product liability reasons." I couldn't help but reply, "Yeah, right, on a 40-year-old washer whose parts are obsolete in the catalogs, I sincerely doubt that somebody who's interested in keeping a grand old Frigidaire washer going is going to be turning around and suing Frigidaire/Electrolux (or whatever-the-hell it's called now after umpteen corporate buyouts and mergers) for products liability. SHEEZ, spare me from corporate America in the 21st Century! Thanks again for all of your assistance; it's greatly appreciated being as I know little to "nut'n'honey" about Frigidaire parts interchangeability -- George (Fresno, CA)
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Post# 31605-8/18/2003-12:09 ||| Manor_Avenue (Fresno, CA)
SUBJECT: 1963 Frigidaire washer--model number
MESSAGE: The model number for the 1963 Frigidaire jet-action washer is WIA63, not ARI or AIR. Can anyone direct me to a photo of the 1963 models? Alternatively, how much resemblance do they bear to the 1966 model (I have an ad for the 1966 model). Thanks again for your help -- George
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Post# 31606-8/18/2003-12:30 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: I am back with a sad story... (Magic Wand says)
MESSAGE: Broken wire between timer and solenoid. If the agitate doesn't start, the neutral position is drain.
It's not good-bye for that machine if someone wants to fix it. All a tech has to do is check for voltage going to the agitate solenoid. If there's voltage, the solenoid. If there's no voltage, the wire or probably the timer.
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Post# 31607-8/18/2003-14:43 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: POP UPS
MESSAGE: Hi Everyone! Everytime I click on the POD, I get a European appliance site pop up. Is anyone else getting this or is it just me? Any ideas on how to get rid of it? Thanks! Lightedcontrols - Mark
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Post# 31608-8/18/2003-15:37 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1963 Frigidaire washer--model number
MESSAGE: This is a great machine to have. It does not look like the '66 with the upright console. The '63 has a 2 part console, the bottom kind of horizontal part with the controls, and a vertical part with a florescent light. It is the second to last year of the Multimatic mechanism. I can't find a pic of one right now, so I'll let someone else link to it...
-ph
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Post# 31609-8/18/2003-15:39 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Detergent for Vintage Washers (Oxydol, BIZ, . .could Dash be next?)
MESSAGE: I know what you mean about the "hip" language - somehow I am surprised that they did not find a way to include the word "dude" on the box. Again, Surf tried something like that several years ago, but it fared poorly and was dropped. I too would like to see some green bleaching crystals.....
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Post# 31610-8/18/2003-15:41 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: POP UPS
MESSAGE: Strange thing, Mark-I haven't had that happen....
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Post# 31611-8/18/2003-16:36 ||| Manor_Avenue (Fresno, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1963 Frigidaire washer--model number (Peter's message re 1963 compared to 1966)
MESSAGE: Peter: Thanks for the info. I guess the 1963 is going to look more like the WCD62, which I prefer in looks to the 1966 anyway. If it's at all similar to the 1962, then I know exactly what it looks like. Thanks for the reply. George (Fresno, CA)
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Post# 31612-8/18/2003-16:46 ||| Manor_Avenue (Fresno, CA)
SUBJECT: What washer did DONNA REED own?
MESSAGE: Ran across an old posting a few days ago that enlightened me to the fact that Elizabeth "Samantha Stevens" Montgomery of BEWITCHED owned a Frigidaire pair. That, in turn, made me recall an episode of DONNA REED in which the Stone family's washer in the kitchen was going bonkers and spitting clothes out all over the place, and TV son Paul Petersen took a futile stab at making the necessary repairs. Also vaguely recall thinking that the model used was much too new to be having such major problems. ANYWAY, it seems to me that Donna Reed's machine was Whirlpool from the 1963-64 era, but does anyone remember for certain? I learned a few years ago that the DONNA REED episodes are still not being shown on the TV waves because of the widows of Carl Betz and Bob Crane fighting over royalties even at this late date. George (Fresno, CA)
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Post# 31613-8/18/2003-16:57 ||| Manor_Avenue (Fresno, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1963 Frigidaire washer--model number (Reply re looks of the 63 Frigidaire WIA63.)
MESSAGE: Peter: I tried to include a link to a photo I have of a friend's 1962 WCD62, but the link isn't showing anything but an error page. Would you e-mail me at ghewett@daklaw.com and I can then attach the picture to my reply e-mail? I'd like to know if the 1963 model WIC63 looks the same as the 1962 WCD62. From your description, it sounds as though it will. Thanks very much - George
LINK: http://C:\Documents and Settings\geh\Desktop\Appliances\1962 Frigidaire
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Post# 31614-8/18/2003-17:47 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: POP UPS
MESSAGE: Do you have spyware running on your computer? You might wanna get Ad-Aware and run it. You might have spyware on your computer that sees your looking at an appliance website so it's throwing out popup ads relating to appliances.
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Post# 31615-8/18/2003-18:22 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Detergent for Vintage Washers (Oxydol, BIZ, . .could Dash be next?)
MESSAGE: I seem to recall "Redox" was created by a couple of very young men (maybe little more than college age?) so that probably explains the verbage used. I will have to look at a package of it at the store, just for fun.
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Post# 31616-8/18/2003-18:54 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: Just a warning
MESSAGE: No need to post back about this, if you have win xp pro or home edition, win 2003 server, win 2000. a very quick way to check if you have the m s blaster worm is to press control alt delete and press the processes tab, and see if you have a line called msblast if you have that line take action to get the removal tool from your antivirus vendor, or microsoft it self NO NEED TO POST BACK ABOUT THIS, THIS VIRUS IS NASTY AND NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH regards to one and all HBMUK
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Post# 31617-8/18/2003-19:31 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: Hobart restaruant dishwasher
MESSAGE: I have decided what I want for the last time. I have had several vintage dishwashers now & they are VERY cool BUT, decided I want a work horse for my breakfast bar. I am looking for a old (not sure of the year) under the counter comercial, one rack, stainless steel in & out, 220 volt , Hobart, with the big car handle latch dishwasher. I know this is going to be hard to find BUT you have to try. I have a few vintage dishwashers that are fantastic but really think a work horse is what I need. Any thoughts or info re this kind of dishwasher would be greatly appreciated. Michael mikepaquette@sympatico.ca
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Post# 31618-8/18/2003-19:38 ||| devildaddy (Troy NY)
SUBJECT: Vintage appliance goldmine - Cornwell Appliances
MESSAGE: Hi guys and gals,
There's a place in Albany NY that has washers and dryers going back to the 50s. I've seen a 50s Whirlpool washer and a couple of Frigidaire 1-18 dryers from the 70s. Not sure if the guy is overpriced on these machines as I'm not in the market for any of them. They have a one-page website which isn't of much use to anyone other than to e-mail the place. Their address, if anyone's interested, is Cornwell Appliance Co. Inc. 1357 Central Avenue Albany NY 12205 (518) 459-3700
Happy hunting!
---Charlie
LINK: http://www.cornwellappliance.com/
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Post# 31619-8/18/2003-21:04 ||| cehalstead (charleston, wv)
SUBJECT: RE: What washer did DONNA REED own? (Samantha's washer)
MESSAGE: Samantha did indeed have a Frigidaire washer and dryer early in the show, but later the machines were switched to avocado Maytags. She also had a portable dishwasher with a window in the door. Later she had a built-in Frigidaire dishwasher.
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Post# 31620-8/18/2003-21:35 ||| alr2903 (new orleans)
SUBJECT: RE: 1963 Frigidaire washer--model number (frigidaire not a link)
MESSAGE: Peter I may be incorrect but watch JAWS, in the beginning scene in the kitchen they have a washer that for years I thought was some kind of Maytag with a left hand hinged door, but I beleive it is the machine you are speaking of. This was in the first movie. p.s. please let me know if im right.
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Post# 31621-8/18/2003-23:02 ||| mxdkp (Pittsburgh, PA)
SUBJECT: Seeking a "SENSI-TEMP" burner replacement....
MESSAGE: My parents have a vintage "1963-64" General Electric(GE)
"JP86 Custom Cooktop," along with the "JH96 Custom
Exhaust Hood." Their custom cooktop (JP86) has the
8-inch ultra high-speed "Automatic Sensi-Temp" burner,
which automatically adjusts to 4,6, or 8 inch pans at
the touch of a button. This burner, along with the
central "Sensi-Temp" round unit, in the middle of the
burner, needs to be replaced. The original one,
finally gave out. This burner, naturally, isn't
available anymore from GE. I would like to know if anyone out there might know where I might be able to acquire this unique burner and Sensi-Temp control unit. Thanks for the help and assistance, in any event !
Sincerely,
Mr. Park
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Post# 31622-8/18/2003-23:06 ||| mxdkp (Pittsburgh, PA)
SUBJECT: RE: HELP WITH GE RANGE - SENSI-TEMP FEATURE (GE "
Sensi-Temp"
reply ....)
MESSAGE: I was wondering if you had any luck, from anybody, regarding the answer to your questions. My parents have a "1963-64" General Electric(GE) "JP86 Custom Cooktop," along with the "JH96 Custom Exhaust Hood." Their custom cooktop (JP86) has the 8-inch ultra high-speed "Automatic Sensi-Temp" burner, which automatically adjusts to 4,6, or 8 inch pans at
the touch of a button. This burner, along with the central "Sensi-Temp" round unit, in the middle of the
burner, needs to be replaced. The original one, finally gave out. This burner, naturally, isn't available anymore from GE. Thanks for whatever feedback you can provide.
Sincerely,
Mr. Park
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Post# 31623-8/18/2003-23:11 ||| mxdkp (Pittsburgh, PA)
SUBJECT: GE "Sensi-Temp" ??? ....
MESSAGE: My parents have a vintage "1963-64" General Electric(GE)
"JP86 Custom Cooktop," along with the "JH96 Custom
Exhaust Hood." Their custom cooktop (JP86) has the
8-inch ultra high-speed "Automatic Sensi-Temp" burner,
which automatically adjusts to 4,6, or 8 inch pans at
the touch of a button. This burner, along with the
central "Sensi-Temp" round unit, in the middle of the
burner, needs to be replaced. The original one, finally gave out. This burner, naturally, isn't available anymore from GE. I would like to know if anyone out there might know where I might be able to acquire this unique burner and Sensi-Temp control unit. Thanks for the help and assistance, in any event !
Sincerely,
Mr. Park
mxdkp@yahoo.com
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Post# 31624-8/18/2003-23:29 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: I am back with a sad story...
MESSAGE: It was probably just the agitate solenoid on the wigwag or a wire. Same thing happened to our kenmore except it was the spin solenoid.
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Post# 31625-8/18/2003-23:33 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: 1963 Frigidaire washer--model number (frigidaire not a link)
MESSAGE: I don't think any Maytag ever had a left or right hinged lid. Just like I don't think any Kenmore had a rear hinged lid (I could be wrong?)
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Post# 31626-8/19/2003-00:27 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1963 Frigidaire washer--model number (frigidaire not a link)
MESSAGE: Kurt, I'm pretty sure you're right about Maytag, but Sears, oddly enough, did use a rear-hinged lid until about 1956. They have certain models that have it again now too. I hope they don't totally abandon the side-hinged lid like so many manufacturers have done.
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Post# 31627-8/19/2003-02:02 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: 1963 Frigidaire washer--model number (frigidaire not a link)
MESSAGE: Ya, some (most) elite kenmore use rear hinged lids. I like side hinged lids better, but a lot of people don't. One of the reasons I like it is that you can set the controls with the lid up. I think whirlpool has used both lids. Back before 1980 most were side hinged.
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Post# 31628-8/19/2003-02:08 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1963 Frigidaire washer--model number (frigidaire not a link)
MESSAGE: That's precisely the reason I don't like the rear-hinged lids either, Kurt.
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Post# 31629-8/19/2003-02:45 ||| GESwivel (Southern CA)
SUBJECT: RE: What washer did DONNA REED own?
MESSAGE: I did not know that The Donna Reed Show was no longer shown anyplace. I am glad that I recorded them many years back. I believed that the laundry equipment was Whirlpool. There are quite a few episodes where they are eating at the table. You can see the W/D behind Jeff. I actually thought that at some point they had a Combination washer/dryer.
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Post# 31630-8/19/2003-03:07 ||| GESwivel (Southern CA)
SUBJECT: RE: What washer did DONNA REED own? (Samantha's washer)
MESSAGE: I like this trivia. Don't forget that there was also a Maytag washer and dryer, in the premier 2 episodes of Bewitched. Side Note-If you were a fan of Hazel(another Screen Gems series)you might recognize the Steven's Entryway/staircase/LR in these episodes.
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Post# 31631-8/19/2003-04:18 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: What washer did DONNA REED own? (Samantha's washer)
MESSAGE: I just watched an episode of Beverly Hillbillies and in the house they have a set of push-button Maytags. Of course I rewound it and took a second look, I know the pushbutton washer came before the dryer, does anyone know when the dryer came out with all pushbuttons?
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Post# 31632-8/19/2003-07:55 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: What washer did DONNA REED own? (Samantha's washer)
MESSAGE: 1963-64 The electronic control dryers came out about 62 from Maytag and shortly after that, the pushbuttons to match the washers.
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Post# 31633-8/19/2003-07:57 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1963 Frigidaire washer--model number (frigidaire not a link)
MESSAGE: Would they have been side hinged in Canada? I've seen pictures of those, but most of the American WP's were always rear-hinged.
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Post# 31634-8/19/2003-07:58 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1963 Frigidaire washer--model number (frigidaire not a link)
MESSAGE: The Maytag Master wringer washer had a side hinged lid ;-)
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Post# 31635-8/19/2003-08:02 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: frigidaire jet cone washer (Yellow Frigidaire & Parts question(Electric pump))
MESSAGE: GE - WH23X10003 Remote Pump
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Post# 31636-8/19/2003-09:32 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Detergent for Vintage Washers (Oxydol, BIZ, . .could Dash be next?)
MESSAGE: There are green bleaching crystals in Oxydol......
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Post# 31637-8/19/2003-09:51 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: What washer did DONNA REED own? (Samantha's washer)
MESSAGE: In later episodes I remember Samantha having a Frigidaire Jetcone washer.
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Post# 31638-8/19/2003-10:41 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: What washer did DONNA REED own? (Samantha's washer)
MESSAGE: Les, the early episodes had a Whirlpool set. Then there was a combination washer/dryer in the early 60s, probably a Lady Kenmore. The last pair was a Lady Kenmore set.
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Post# 31639-8/19/2003-11:41 ||| Manor_Avenue (Fresno, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: What washer did DONNA REED own? (Samantha's washer)
MESSAGE: I believe the Maytag pushbutton dryer was available as early as 1964.
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Post# 31640-8/19/2003-11:43 ||| Manor_Avenue (Fresno, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: What washer did DONNA REED own? (Samantha's washer)
MESSAGE: And we'll never know what Rob and Laurie Petrie used to do laundry. Wonder why they missed the opportunity to display a big-name pair in that famous kitchen/back entryway?
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Post# 31641-8/19/2003-11:43 ||| Manor_Avenue (Fresno, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: frigidaire jet cone washer (Yellow Frigidaire & Parts question(Electric pump))
MESSAGE: Thanks very much for the pump parts number.
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Post# 31642-8/19/2003-13:30 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Detergent for Vintage Washers (Oxydol, BIZ, . .could Dash be next?)
MESSAGE: There are no green chrystals in the box I have. Just plain white powder
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Post# 31643-8/19/2003-13:44 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Detergent for Vintage Washers (Oxydol, BIZ, . .could Dash be next?)
MESSAGE: Mine has them, about the size of BB's
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Post# 31644-8/19/2003-13:58 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Detergent for Vintage Washers (Oxydol, BIZ, . .could Dash be next?)
MESSAGE: The difference between with bleach and regular?
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Post# 31645-8/19/2003-20:33 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: 1963 Frigidaire washer--model number (frigidaire not a link)
MESSAGE: Side and Rear hinged lids.
I am unlike most in the club - I perfer the lid on a TL to open to the back (makes the washer look more uniform)
and the lid doesn't get in the way when loading and unloading
On a dryer I perfer the door open to the side not down.
On Fl I perfer the door open open to the side also
I also felt drop down doors got in the way
I like the old westys they made for a few years where the door opened to the side. I always felt weigh to save was realy weigh to BS
Peter
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Post# 31646-8/19/2003-21:54 ||| earthling177 (Boston, MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Detergent for Vintage Washers (New vs. Old Oxydol)
MESSAGE: Louis, I believe the box you have is a "reproduction" box that looks like Oxydol when it was launched in US over 50 years ago. The one they are talking about is the box that is in the supermarkets now.
Cheers,
-- Paulo.
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Post# 31647-8/19/2003-23:18 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: What washer did DONNA REED own? (Dick van Dyke Show)
MESSAGE: ...And whether or not the Petries' washer/dryer were (was?) hooked up on the service porch off the kitchen or down in the basement. Laura Petrie reminds me so much of my Aunt with the Kenmores that I imagine her with a 1959 matching KM set.
Actually, Bewitched could be seen as a 30 minute Frigidaire commercial since whenever they changed the design of their appliances, those redesigns showed up in the Stevens' kitchen. So, before the switchover to the gold Maytag DW in 1969, there were two Frigidaire DW - I believe the refrigerator also changed over once or twice and we end up with that cool bottom mount freezer/top mount fridge with the door switch operated by electric motor. Since Maytag wasnt yet building fridges in '69, anybody know if the gold refrigerator that came in was an Amana?
As to the Stevens' foyer, both that and the exterior of the house have shown up on so many TV shows and movies, I have lost count.
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Post# 31648-8/20/2003-01:39 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: 1963 Frigidaire washer--model number (frigidaire not a link)
MESSAGE: Perhaps only in Canada. I don't exactly remember but I thought I have seen whirlpool washers with side hinged lids, but those may have only been Canadian models.
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Post# 31649-8/20/2003-01:41 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: 1963 Frigidaire washer--model number (frigidaire not a link)
MESSAGE: I thought of that after I posted about Maytag's lids. I guess I was only talking about automatics (since I have never seen a maytag wringer washer outside of pictures.)
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Post# 31650-8/20/2003-01:43 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: 1963 Frigidaire washer--model number (frigidaire not a link)
MESSAGE: That's why most non-appliance nuts like rear hinged lids, it doesn't get in the way for loading. But maybe I also like side hinged since I grew up with kenmores.
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Post# 31651-8/20/2003-01:46 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: What washer did DONNA REED own? (Samantha's washer)
MESSAGE: I see, those electronic control dryers were way ahead of their time. I wonder why that idea didn't take off in the 60s? It kind of went under until the 80s when (I think Maytag again) put the moisture sensors in their dryers.
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Post# 31652-8/20/2003-02:30 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Detergent for Vintage Washers (New vs. Old Oxydol)
MESSAGE: Thank you Paulo for explaining, I'll have a browse at an online supermarket to have a peek at the newer boxes. Am I right by presuming that originally Oxydol had green crystals? If so that would mean I have a vintage looking box with modern looking powder and the boxes in the supermarket are modern looking with vintage looking detergent? Hmmmmmm.....
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Post# 31653-8/20/2003-08:33 ||| keymatic (Surrey.U.K)
SUBJECT: Lightburn Twin Tubs
MESSAGE: Hi All,
Does anyone have any information on how Lightburn Twin Tubs of the 1960's. I am especially interested in the wash action.
I have recently won a brochure on Ebay giving a description of 3 models, (Gold Seal, Blue Ribbon,White Star)it says that it has a "Water Wand" wash action, but I am unsure how this wash the clothes without tangling them?
It must have been a nightmare with sheets !!
Any help would be appreciated
Thanks
Keith ( Keymatic)
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Post# 31654-8/20/2003-10:00 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Lightburn Twin Tubs
MESSAGE: Hi Keith
Any chance of you posting a pic of the brochure???Were the Lightburn machines sold in UK?
They were manufactured near Adelaide in South Australia.
They made a huge range including pulsator (non-reversing in bottom of wash tub), agitator, paddle and tumble. My Nan had a Lightburn Jumbo Twin which was tumble action. Lightburn's main business was always concrete mixers, they still make them today. The Jumbo had a washdrum which was basically an enamelled concrete mixer drum, it stood about five feet high. The opening was at a height so you could pull out the washed clothes and drop them into the spinner. One of the weirdest looking machines you ever could hope to meet. To empty the wash drum you had to put you hand into the (probably still very hot)water and unscrew a cap which released the water into the pump. The drum had to be turned till the cap was at the bottom first, or the water would miss the pump inlet, I guess it was like a funnnel under the drum to catch the water. (Never been inside one myself)
The paddle washer (which I assume is your "water wand" machine) had a chrome arm protruding from behind the wash tub, and turned back and forth like a horizontal windscreen wiper. It covered a large part of the tub so had a very strong wash action. I used to have one and it had the best wash action of any twinnie I have seen. It never tangled which was a nice change after the Hoovermatic. The arm was basically a chromed steel tube which arched down into the tub and wrapped around a plastic disc which formed the paddle. The disc was about the size of a table tennis paddle.
All Lightbutn machines were very basic, no timer or auto rinse. The only controls were an on/off switch and the pump valve. Several only had one motor which was under the spinner, the wash and pump were belt driven off that motor. Earlier ones had no brake on the spinner, which due to its fast spin, larger diameter and solid construction took ages to slow down. A girl at my primary school had her arm broken trying to slow the drum down on one. The motor was huge and powerful so accelerated the spin from stationary to 2800rpm in about two seconds, you could hear the water blast against the sides of the outer spin drum.
Lightburn made much of their "rustproof" mainly fibreglass construction, so it was a bit odd that the outer spin drum was galvanised sheetmetal. They rusted out... There is no seal at the base of the spin drum, just a raised collar around the motor shaft where it attaches to the spin can. It relies on the pump getting the water out faster than it can be spun out of the clothes. If you turn off the machine and keep running water onto the clothes in the spin can (for rinsing) you can have water running down into the motor. How safe is that?
Lightburn also made cars for a few years, a really basic mini-car which was originally a UK microcar called an Astra (not Vauxhall) from the fifties or early sixties. It had an Anzani motorcycle engine and gearbox. Naturally it was fibreglass bodied, and almost unbelievably ugly. It was called a Lightburn Zeta. The motoring press were downright cruel in their criticism of it. It was never a success and was finished off by the Mini. And back to washing machines (treading on dangerous ground I know...)
Chris.
Best Wishes
Chris.
LINK: http://www.sa.regional.net.au/icons/result_form.asp?PhotoID=324
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Post# 31655-8/20/2003-10:10 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: British washing machines?
MESSAGE: Hi Jamie
They ain't British, they are Australian.
The Hoover Elite 900 series is the last of the Australian Hoovers based on the Blackstone washer from USA. The 900 series was about when Maytag took over Hoover Aus and cheapened up the machines considerably. The steel top and lid was changed to flimsy plastic which cracks easily. The agitator shaft was shortened which made seal wear more of an issue - water could leak into the tramsnission. Not a good machine. Late eighties or early nineties.
The Simpson is a basic old Simpson top loader. I think it might be the last of the Fluid Drives. Probably late sixties or early seventies. Very plain styling with a fake woodgrain control panel.
Chris.
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Post# 31656-8/20/2003-10:19 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: What washer did DONNA REED own? (Samantha's washer)
MESSAGE: Kurt, electronic control dryers NEVER REALLY went away. Up until the 70s and 80s, they were relegated to solely the top of the line models. I.E. Lady Kenmores; (I'm not even sure Whirlpool's TOL model offered electronic sensing then, it was a "differentiator" for Kenmore); Maytag; Frigidaire's Custom Imperial 1965 & 1966 dryers had this type of drying system; GE's Americana Dryer of this vintage had Electronic sensing. These are the one right off the top of my head. Sears probably had the deepest line of dryers in the model line-up with electronic sensing dryers. Most other models that DID have some sort of auto dry were the type with measuring the exhaust temp to determine "dryness" (like Kenmore's Fabric Master).
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Post# 31657-8/20/2003-10:21 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: What washer did DONNA REED own? (Samantha's washer)
MESSAGE: I did wonder tht too, particularly since they did a Dash commercial with a Maytag for the product's theme of it makes your washer clean like it's 10-feet tall.
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Post# 31658-8/20/2003-12:20 ||| Manor_Avenue (Fresno, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: What washer did DONNA REED own? (Dick van Dyke Show)
MESSAGE: Good point about Rob/Laura laundering in the basement. Living in California, I tend to forget that basements exist. Also wish they'd put the laundry hookup's in my home in the kitchen and not the garage for the delightful 100-plus-degree summers. I guess I'm also going to have to re-watch a lot of Bewitched episodes because we didn't have a color TV until 1974, so I wouldn't have been able to know the appliance colors; only the makes. Wonder who was given the pushbutton Maytags from THE BEVERLY HILLBILLIES after the show was cancelled?
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Post# 31659-8/20/2003-12:28 ||| Manor_Avenue (Fresno, CA)
SUBJECT: The Ricardos and Mertzes fight over which model washer?
MESSAGE: Would anybody have any idea what model it was that caused the Ricardos and Mertzes to fight over possession (after Lucy sells to Ethel, the washer breaks down, spewing water everywhere, and then the repairman offers to buy for $50) and send the machine over the back porch railing during their tug-of-war? All I recall is, it was a flat-top like the first Maytag automatic with a dial at the corner, and I think it had a porthole window in the lid. And, did we see enough of the basement laundry room in ROSEMARY'S BABY, whilst Mia Farrow was talking with the young woman who was rooming with Ruth Gordon/Sidney Blackmere (spelling?) to know whether those were Frigidaires humming and whirring in the background? And, after Lucy and Ricky moved to Connecticut, in probably the last season of The Lucy-Desi Comedy Hour, do we ever see enough of the laundry pair in the laundry room off to the side to figure out whether those might have also been Frigidaires? I believe the dryer had the floor pedal and a lot of the chrome bar trim that leads me to think Frigidaire might have been it. Hey, what about George & Jane Jetson? What models did THEY own?
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Post# 31660-8/20/2003-12:30 ||| Manor_Avenue (Fresno, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: What washer did DONNA REED own? (Rob/Laura Petrie Dash commercial)
MESSAGE: I wonder why the Dash commercial by Mr. & Mrs. Petrie isn't included in THE DICK VAN DYKE SHOW history book? They show their ads for cigarettes (Kent, I believe?) but I don't remember any mention of the Dash commercial.
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Post# 31661-8/20/2003-13:13 ||| keymatic (Surrey.U.K)
SUBJECT: RE: Lightburn Twin Tubs
MESSAGE: Hi Chris,
Thanks for the information regarding the Lightburn twin tubs !! I understand more now about the "Paddle" style wash action, I thought by looking at the picture it was a hollow "wand" which would have tangled the clothes terribly..
I know what you mean about the "Jumbo" sized washer it is shown on the back of the brochure. Have a look at the link to my album, there you will see the sub folder for the brochure.
They look kewl machines, dispite the naff spinner.
Thanks for your help.
Keith
LINK: http://uk.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/shaunandkeith
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Post# 31662-8/20/2003-13:34 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: No cleaning failures here........
MESSAGE: scroll to the bottom to see lots of suds...... As always, click the pic to see the full size version.
LINK: http://bellsouthpwp.net/d/u/dumontj/maytag.html
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Post# 31663-8/20/2003-14:19 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........ (Load Sensor Vs. Power Fin 12)
MESSAGE: Which agitator works better: Load Sensor or Power Fin 12?
-ph
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Post# 31664-8/20/2003-14:58 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........
MESSAGE: Hi Sweetie, what a handsome set, and how nice to see you posting more often again! A friend in Arizona has that same washer which he purchased new and has been using continuously since 1976. It still looks and runs like new.
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Post# 31665-8/20/2003-15:33 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: OMO washing powder
MESSAGE: During the 2nd world war, when the British men were away fighting. If the woman were in need of black market stuff like food, clothes stockings, During the later few years of the 2nd world war, the British woman knew that the American service men could get things like that. But the only way they could get the stuff is for the woman to put a packet of OMO washing powder in the kitchen window, for the passing American service men to see (OMO= ON MY OWN) The woman would then do the buissiness
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Post# 31666-8/20/2003-16:10 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........ (Load Sensor Vs. Power Fin 12)
MESSAGE: The PF 12 worked fine, splashed a lot and created more suds. The LS worked the same but you could not load the machine to full capacity and expect roll over. For some reason the cams in the LS do not like the speed of the Orbital coupled with the 50hz pulley.
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Post# 31667-8/20/2003-16:11 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........
MESSAGE: Thanks Scott!!
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Post# 31668-8/20/2003-16:35 ||| Manor_Avenue (Fresno, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........ (Lighted consoles)
MESSAGE: That's a great Maytag pair. If I hadn't seen the date on the pictures on your link, I'd have thought these were from the late 1960's. I thought that by the 1970's, they'd replaced the lighted glass panels with panels of that wrinkled texture vinyl. I recently found the identical pair in harvest gold, which I admit is not my favorite color, but I like the styling and they light up. Am curious as to when Maytag gave up that 1966 styling and went to the next styling trend?
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Post# 31669-8/20/2003-16:43 ||| earthling177 (Boston, MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Detergent for Vintage Washers (New vs. Old Oxydol)
MESSAGE: Oxydol has one of the most confusing histories, it depends very much on who you ask. About the only thing people seem to agree on is that Oxydol started the trend and word "soap opera" when they sponsored a radio show that had that format.
Presumably Oxydol started as a soap with bleach, because even P&G (who owned Oxydol) insists that Tide with Bleach was the first detergent with bleach. But other accounts say Oxydol was P&G's first detergent, which conflicts with P&G's "hub of the Universe" view of Tide being the very first detergent in the world (which I do not believe is true, even if they meant laundry detergent).
In any case, I think the box you have is probably a reproduction from the 30's or so, when supposedly it became a detergent. At least in US (and Brazil, for that matter) having colored crystals mixed with the detergent is less of a trademark and more like fashions that come and go, so it is possible that in the 30's it was a white powder. I don't really know what the current version of Oxydol looks/smells like, have seen the box in supermarkets, but haven't tried it yet. You can take a look at the current box (and a "version" of Oxydol history, which disagrees with P&G's version) when you visit Redox Brands web site, link below.
LINK: http://www.redoxbrands.com
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Post# 31670-8/20/2003-17:01 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........ (Lighted consoles)
MESSAGE: I believe the textured panels or something similar existed down through time. Except possibly for a time prior to 1966 where I don't know the individual models quite as well, I think the backlighted glass panels were generally reserved for top of the line models, the all pushbutton and the model directly under it.
I think the all button model had probably disappeared by the time Jason's washer was made, rendering his the then-top of the line. It is interesting to see that Jason's still has the tublight, as a friend and I were trying to figure out how long that lasted. I'm guessing if it was still on Jason's it probably did til about 1980, when the control panels were re-designed moving the timer to the right and the vertical rows of pushbuttons.
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Post# 31671-8/20/2003-17:14 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........ (Lighted consoles)
MESSAGE: I would never have known Maytag had a tub light until it was mentioned here (in previous posts as well). A friend of my grandmother's had a somewhat upscale Maytag pair in the mid 1970s, and there was no tub light or console lights -- I saw them running several times, so I know that for sure.
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Post# 31672-8/20/2003-19:36 ||| Manor_Avenue (Fresno, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........ (Lighted consoles)
MESSAGE: I didn't know the lighted consoles signified the top model; I guess I assumed that they were the older models, assuming that as inflation took over, Maytag found ways to cut the costs of the light assembly and glass panel. I guess, too, after 1980, Maytag wasn't recognizable by its console design alone any more. I don't know for sure when they did away with the A906 button model, but I believe the one I have was dated by Maytag as having been manufactured in 1970.
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Post# 31673-8/20/2003-20:08 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........ (Lighted consoles)
MESSAGE: Only the 800 and 900 series had the lighted panel. The tub light was gone by the 02 Series machine with the exception of the Electronic Stack, which is where I got the parts to put the tub light on mine. Notice the light is at the 6 O'clock position where the original would have been at the 3 O'clock position.
The all push button machines were gone by the early 70's.
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Post# 31674-8/20/2003-20:20 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........ (Lighted consoles)
MESSAGE: The 906 Model first of all was expensive, second, it was not as flexible as the 806 because you were limited in load size, speeds, cycle times and water levels. The 806 was expensive also but because of it's flexibility was much more common.
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Post# 31675-8/20/2003-20:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........ (Load Sensor Vs. Power Fin 12)
MESSAGE: Have you used a "standard" blue power fin with this washer yet? You'd need one with the set-screw mounting of course, but the washing action would be interesting to see with those huge fins and the suped up orbital tranny.
Wonderful set Jason, very nice work!
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Post# 31676-8/20/2003-20:31 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Detergent for Vintage Washers (New vs. Old Oxydol)
MESSAGE: Oxydol was reputed to be very hard on machines as it was very high in alkali content, literally ate away all the finish & metal inside the machines.
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Post# 31677-8/20/2003-20:52 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........ (Load Sensor Vs. Power Fin 12)
MESSAGE: Greg, you cannot use the power fin agitator with the souped up Maytag because of the fins being too large it will strip the gears in the tranny.
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Post# 31678-8/20/2003-22:27 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........ (Lighted consoles)
MESSAGE: I thought all Maytag models were expensive for the features they offered compared to an equivalent Whirlpool or Kenmore (with two speeds, variable water level, five temp combos, multiple cycles, etc.).
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Post# 31679-8/20/2003-23:19 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: What washer did DONNA REED own? (Dick van Dyke Show)
MESSAGE: Good question about who got the Maytags in the mansion, since we see so many appliances recycled in other TV shows:
Two gold Maytags similar to the ones on Bewitched show up on "Grace Under Fire", as does the Huxtables' Whirlpool DW.
The Avocado Maytags in "That 70s Show" look suspiciously similar to the ones featured in "The Brady Bunch Movie"
The Speed Queen twins featured in "Eight is Enough" were also on the short lived "Apple's Way" two years earlier.
How about the same Whirlpool DW showing up in 3 different movies? Those would be "The Big Chill", "Mr. Mom", and...oh fart a brick! I cant remember the third movie now, but it was around about that same time.
But, I tell you what, Manor_Ave: in "Sweet Dreams", we can see Patsy Cline's washing machine in the corner of the kitchen in one scene, and it is a yellow Maytag of late 50s to mid 60s vintage. One wonders if it might not be the same one as in the Clampett laundry room. We may never know since the lid is up during the whole scene, hiding the control panel.
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Post# 31680-8/20/2003-23:22 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........
MESSAGE: How does an orbital tranz work?
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Post# 31681-8/20/2003-23:24 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........ (Lighted consoles)
MESSAGE: The first compeletely redesigned control panel was early 1980, I believe
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Post# 31682-8/20/2003-23:25 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........ (Lighted consoles)
MESSAGE: I, also, remember seeing a new 1976 TOL in action one day and being somewhat surprised that there were still Maytags with lighted control panels.
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Post# 31683-8/21/2003-00:30 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: What washer did DONNA REED own? (Samantha's washer)
MESSAGE: I know there has been heat sensing dryers for a long time. But moisture sensing was in electronic control halo of heats, then other dryers had heat sensing auto drys, then moisture sensing came back in the 80s. Moisture sensing auto dry is a whole lot better than heat sensing auto dry. Thats why I wondered why no other manufacturers grabbed the moisture sensing idea from maytag in the early 60s, instead they waited until the 80s to use moisture sensing again. Maybe moisture sensing designs were too expensive to make until the 80s (and therefore only Maytag used them since Maytags were generally more expensive, or am I wrong?)
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Post# 31684-8/21/2003-00:40 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........
MESSAGE: The orbital tranny is from the 80s on so I may get a strip torn off me... But any how, it uses the same design to attach the tranny to the washer basket and agitator (with the same stem and the same type of connections) so therefore, you can swap an orbital in an older maytag that has a regular counterbalance tranny (those are longer and obviously have a large counterbalance on it, the orbital ones do not have a counterbalance) both are good transmissions. Also, the gearing in the orbital are higher, therefore the agitator turns faster than with counterbalance trannys.
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Post# 31685-8/21/2003-00:42 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........
MESSAGE: Cool pics, that set looks almost the same as the set I use at work, except the ones at my work are in sad condition (lid is rusted, dirty in and out:-( and the brown bottom part of the control panel on your pair is blue on the pair at my work. And your pair have more features (AND the dryer isn't a halo of heat, right?)
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Post# 31686-8/21/2003-00:45 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........
MESSAGE: Actually it is more different than I thought, the ones at my work don't have a shiny edge along the control panel, and there is of course no control panel light. But at least they still have the center timer control panel (my favorite control panel of any washer)
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Post# 31687-8/21/2003-01:17 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........
MESSAGE: Kurt, the ones at your work are one series older than Jason's. That was the last I believe of the halo of heat dryers, and in addition to the blue, the dials are metallic looking instead of white.
Does anyone know what year it went from 06 to 07? 06 I think has grey on the bottom, 07 blue, and 08, the gold.
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Post# 31688-8/21/2003-01:45 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........
MESSAGE: The knob for the timer is silver in color, the dial (with the markings on it for spin, rinse etc.) is white. But Jason's pair looks to have metalic colored dials instead of white.
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Post# 31689-8/21/2003-02:15 ||| keymatic (Surrey.U.K)
SUBJECT: RE: OMO washing powder
MESSAGE: This washing powder of the 50's & 60's was also used if the lady of the house was having an affair, as she would place a packet of the powder in the kitchen window, advising the lover that "old man out"...
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Post# 31690-8/21/2003-02:21 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........
MESSAGE: That's a wonderful set you have there! I'm surprised that this style was still made in the late seventies, I had thought that the ones with the timer on the left and the brown control panel would have been on the market by then. But I guess Maytag is slow with changes. I must say though that I don't like the look of that corkscrew in that machine. It just looks too modern. Do you know what the spinspeed is now with that belt?
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Post# 31691-8/21/2003-02:28 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Detergent for Vintage Washers (New vs. Old Oxydol)
MESSAGE: Thank you for the explanation Paulo. I'll jeep the box for display since I didn't like the detergent very much.
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Post# 31692-8/21/2003-02:30 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Detergent for Vintage Washers (New vs. Old Oxydol)
MESSAGE: I had the impression it was eating my underwear too.
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Post# 31693-8/21/2003-08:04 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: What washer did DONNA REED own? (Samantha's washer)
MESSAGE: Most manufacturers had these systems in their model line-up, but as Bob said, they were mostly offered as a step-up feature in the top of the line models. Kenmore offered more models with this feature than most, but they were available from many manufacturers from the 60's on and there was no gap in this offering.
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Post# 31694-8/21/2003-09:35 ||| Activator (Tulsa, OK)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Detergent for Vintage Washers (New vs. Old Oxydol)
MESSAGE: This is complete trivia:
My grandmother, "Mammaw", whose kitchen became a scientific laboratory on wash day in Cushing, Oklahoma...was born in 1900 and had a memory that bordered on the preternatural. According to Mammaw, the "soap opera" (radio, of course) that advertised Oxydol was called "Ma Perkins" and was, as I understand, 15 minutes long and jam-packed with trauma, drama and heartbreak.
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Post# 31695-8/21/2003-09:36 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........
MESSAGE: 757
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Post# 31696-8/21/2003-10:33 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........
MESSAGE: Maytag, made by Boeing.
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Post# 31697-8/21/2003-10:46 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........
MESSAGE: LOL, exactly. And you can really tell a difference in the dry time. Just about everything is done in 30 mins or less.
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Post# 31698-8/21/2003-12:14 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........
MESSAGE: Yeah, that's actually what I was trying to say but I see I didn't word it very well, LOL
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Post# 31699-8/21/2003-12:30 ||| Manor_Avenue (Fresno, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: What washer did DONNA REED own? (Patsy Cline's Maytag)
MESSAGE: Hadn't seen the Patsy Cline movie, and somebody should send an e-mail from the movie's web site to the producer to give him hell for "leaving the lid up" (where have we all heard THAT complaint before?) on the Maytag so we can't see the control panel. Speaking of Maytags, I did notice, in a final scene on AMERICAN DREAMS the other night, in an appliance store scene, a white Maytag A902. I would like to have known, though, what time period the show was in during this episode (didn't see it from the beginning) because they also had a 1966-style Maytag in the group, and it seemed to me the show was earlier on in the 1960's -- at least it seemed to be by the styling of the clothing.
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Post# 31700-8/21/2003-12:38 ||| radiobill1966 (Indianapolis, IN)
SUBJECT: The "Pisspot Theory"
MESSAGE: Got a theory I'd like to float with you all.
I just recently replaced my 5 year old GE washer and dryer. They were included with our new house, so they were not the most expensive models available at the time.
A few weeks ago, I started noticing brownish fluid seeping from underneath the washer. I was pretty sure that the transmission was leaking. On top of that, the washer sounded like it was laboring in the agitate cycle, so at that point I decided to replace the whole shebang with pretty decent Maytag units.
Contrast this with my parents--they bought a brand new GE washer in 1955. Built like a battleship, probably cost a pretty penny in its day. From what I remember, it had lighted controls, minibasket, the works. It lasted nearly 20 years. From that point forward, the next GE’s lasted 4, maybe 3 years before they petered out. On top of that, it seemed half the nice features disappeared on succeeding basic models.
Then you get to my GE—5 years old, made of thin steel, cheesy plastic control knobs, plastic tub, sounded gawdawful when it went through its motions.
It was after this transaction, I started forming this theory about quality.
I’ve noticed that when the first of a new product is put on a market (be it washer, dryer, transistor radio), it, of course, comes with a high price tag. But it’s well-built—and it should be, considering the money shelled out for it. Then, as the product becomes more commonplace, manufacturers start cutting corners; a little here, a little there. Features like lighted controls disappear, styling becomes a distant third to price and functionality.
Now, any new appliance feels….cheap. Plasticky. It’s as if the manufacturers got together with a plastic model kit company to build new stuff.
Anyone else see this same trend? Seems to me that while products may be affordable to most everyone today, they’re of pisspot quality, and you’ll be lucky to see them last half a decade….IF you baby them.
Bill
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Post# 31701-8/21/2003-14:26 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........
MESSAGE: Wow, that Maytag must really hum in spin then. They already had fairly good spin speeds for their age (in the 600 rpms right?)
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Post# 31702-8/21/2003-14:36 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: The "Pisspot Theory"
MESSAGE: 5 Years is typical for a new style GE. The spin brake usually fails before then. We had a pair of 70s GEs before our belt drive kenmore/maytag dryer. They were gold and built strong. They were used by my grandma, and then we got them. The washer was junked when the boot seal tore. The dryer was junked when the element broke and the timer went. They lasted about 20 years too. Then our belt drive lasted 15 years (could have been longer had I put in some long hours of work.) The same thing happened with vacuums. Today's vacuums are CRAP. No matter what price you put on them, no matter what amazing plastic you say they are made of, they are CRAP. Nothing, NO vacuum can beat an old Kirby, or an old Hoover (model 28, 700, etc, etc) or an old electrolux tank. But old vacuums were expensive as were any vintage appliances. But boy did they last a good long time. General things would take over and make the appliance bad back then (rust, abuse, maintenance things like belts) back then no one heard of a transmission failing, and now look at GE and Maytag's newest transmissions, just junk (not maytag's orbital, but the crap in the performa and the atlantis.) Back then no one heard of a vacuum motor failing. Now you have things like commutator failure and bearings locking up, it is crappy to see things like that happening.
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Post# 31703-8/21/2003-16:17 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: SANITRONIC '50'
MESSAGE: I just love my Kirby. He's my friend, indeed. Something we agree on, Kurt.
B
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/KIRBY/INDEX.htm
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Post# 31704-8/21/2003-16:40 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........ (Orbital Trans)
MESSAGE: The Orbital has 3 moving parts aside from the Center Shaft ( the shaft that has the main pulley attached) and the Agitator Shaft.
When the machine goes to wash the pulley tightens against the Center Shaft which turns the Pinion Gear, whcih turns the Bevel Gear. In the Bevel Gear is the Yoke/Torque Block which is attached to the Agitator Shaft. As the Bevel gear turns with the Yoke it creates the back and forth agitation.
When the motor goes to spin the pulley turns in the oposite direction locking against the transmission itself spinning the wash tub.
It's actually easier to understand if you can see the transmission apart.
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Post# 31705-8/21/2003-18:11 ||| cehalstead (charleston, wv)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........ (maytag spin)
MESSAGE: Maytag spin speed has always been the same-a pitiful 620 rpms.
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Post# 31706-8/21/2003-20:01 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: OMO washing powder (Like it )
MESSAGE: I like that :-)
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Post# 31707-8/21/2003-20:07 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: Wonders
MESSAGE: A shout out to sactoteddybear, did ya get ya balls yet LOL
ERRM these are plastic persil liquid dispenser balls, LET ME KNOW STEVE. HBMUK
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Post# 31708-8/21/2003-20:50 ||| Tolivac (greenville nc)
SUBJECT: pisspot
MESSAGE: I would like to respond to this matter-not just washers and vacuums-My main thing to do for a living-running and fixing sw transmitters. As I write this message the older 1940's and 1960's vintage rigs are on air while the two 1980's vintage one are not-torn down for us to repair!!
I would like to say about the maytag quality downfall-must be because maytag is now owned by magic chef. I have looked at new maytag washer-dryers and they are almost identical to the magic chefs. Only difference is the ATlantis models.also electrolux vac name has been sold-I beleive frigidare owns it now. "Lux" vac as they called now go by Aeros name-which is owned by eurika.
I agree on the kirbys-the best-even their new ones-still excellent.
I can agree new laundry machines are junky-I had a newer kenmore series 80 washer. The second time I used it the outer plastic tub was a victim of an unbalanced load. The inner metal tub banged into the outer plastic one -cracking it. the next time the machine was used I had a wet floor.Called Sears warranty service. they replaced both tubs. Was equal to a $350 repair. Glad it was under warranty. Got rid of that machine-traded it to a shop out here that deals in older appliances-Got a whirlpool imperial 90 to replace it. The older machine is light years better. All steel-(noticed while carrying it into the house after taking out the sears)
The transmission in the whirlpool was almost like that in my car!!
The applince tech showed me several DEAD sears like what I traded him-he mentioned mine was the only one he got that would work.
I good frind of mine had a newer GE not more than 4 yrs old. The plastic transmission in it blew up!! We hauled it to the dump!!
He did buy a new sears -told him to be careful with it.
I also don't like Sears-whirlpool direct drive system-breaks to easily.
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Post# 31709-8/21/2003-21:52 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........ (Orbital Trans)
MESSAGE: And everything is totally beltless...kewl
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Post# 31710-8/21/2003-22:05 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: What washer did DONNA REED own? (Patsy Cline's Maytag)
MESSAGE: Hrmmmmm...I had thought the show was supposedly set in either '63, or '64. Wonder if that is the same A902 seen in a "Quantam Leap" episode once.
I have seen too many instances where the appliances in a picture are not true to the times. Witness that same set of mid 70s Thermador and KitchenAid appliances that show up in any movie that is supposed to be set in the 50s: "Driving Miss Daisy", "The Sandlot (well, that one was supposed to be 1962)", and I may be wrong, but I think they show up in that Sissy Spacek/Whoopi Goldberg made-for-tv about the Montgomery bus boycott, as well as one other show I can think of. And once, I saw a movie on television that was set in the mid 60s and there is a late 70s Speed Queen washer in the kitchen in one scene. Sad!
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Post# 31711-8/21/2003-22:30 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: PINK 1957 FRIGIDAIRE OVEN, COOKTOP, & FREEZER!
MESSAGE: Greetings everyone! A friend of mine has inherited his Grandmother's home. He has decided to tear out the kitchen and I am trying to save these wonderful appliances. There is a wall oven, cooktop, and a frost free freezer all in pink. I have listed this on the items for sale page but want you all to know, for those of you that don't check that page regularly. I would hate to see these beauties be trashed. Also found was some sales literature and use and care manuals for these appliances. All offers will be considered. If anyone wants a photo, please email me at: bigrrfan@aol.com Thanks! Mark (lightedcontrols)
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Post# 31712-8/21/2003-23:01 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........ (Orbital Trans)
MESSAGE: No, maytag has always used belts. With the 50hz Pulley it will go through belts faster than the regular set-up.
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Post# 31713-8/21/2003-23:35 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........ (Orbital Trans)
MESSAGE: You went to more detail than I could have, you know your stuff:-)
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Post# 31714-8/21/2003-23:37 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........ (maytag spin)
MESSAGE: Oh but remember whirlpool/kenmore belt drives? Awesome washers with a horrible spin, something in the 400 rpms:-(
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Post# 31715-8/21/2003-23:45 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: pisspot
MESSAGE: Just a second, ok, frigidaire is owned by "electrolux group of UK." The electrolux group of uk has NOTHING to do with electrolux USA or areus (electrolux usa and areus are the same) The elctrolux group owns frigidaire appliances in usa. Elextrolux USA (now areus) has always been their own company (and still is) but they sold the NAME electrolux to electrolux UK. But elextrolux usa vacuums were no longer good when they went to all plastic bodies with the diamond jubilee. I will talk about your direct drive machine on the sandbox...
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Post# 31716-8/21/2003-23:47 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........ (Orbital Trans)
MESSAGE: Nope, all maytag automatics have had belts (in fact, the SAME belt setup since the 50s except at one point they had the pump on the left and the motor on the right.) the orbital tranny didn't change the maytag design at all (except it changed the transmission obviously)
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Post# 31717-8/21/2003-23:47 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........ (maytag spin)
MESSAGE: I believe WH/KM belt-drive spin was in the 500 RPM area.
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Post# 31718-8/21/2003-23:47 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........ (maytag spin)
MESSAGE: Oh, still pretty soggy when compared to the spin speeds in the 1000s from today's front loaders.
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Post# 31719-8/22/2003-00:02 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........ (maytag spin)
MESSAGE: 525
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Post# 31720-8/22/2003-00:05 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: SANITRONIC '50'
MESSAGE: Cool, we agree. The good thing about Kirbys and all other older vacuums (before 1970) is they can be beat into the ground and still work fine. (dropped down stairs, bag not emtied for weeks, picking up coins etc.) Vacuums these days can take nothing more than babying without falling apart in your hands:-(
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Post# 31721-8/22/2003-02:21 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........ (Orbital Trans)
MESSAGE: You don't happen to have a picture of an open orbital tranny do you?
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Post# 31722-8/22/2003-04:25 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: Spin Speeds
MESSAGE: Hotpints Liberator Top Loaders circa 1970s were an amazing 1040 revs at top spin speed, Hotpoint Electronic Deluxe circa 1980s like mine now have a faster spin of 1050 revs regards hbmuk
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Post# 31723-8/22/2003-07:55 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........ (How do it work?)
MESSAGE: Here is the way I explain it:
Take a cereal bowl (bevel gear), place a spoon in it (torque block). Hold the end of the handle up over the center of the bowl (agitator shaft). Now turn the bowl around. As the spoon rotates around with the bowl, the handle end in your hand will turn one way, then the other way. Your hand is the agitator shaft, and as the spoon goes around, that energy pushes the agitator back and forth.
-ph
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Post# 31724-8/22/2003-08:02 ||| radiobill1966 (Indianapolis, IN)
SUBJECT: RE: The "Pisspot Theory" (Maytag Performa)
MESSAGE: I didn't need to hear that...I just bought a new Performa.
I think I'll crawl into a corner and get drunk now.
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Post# 31725-8/22/2003-08:26 ||| AndrewInOrlando (Winter Park, FL)
SUBJECT: RE: pisspot
MESSAGE: I had an older DD Sears Lady Kenmore 90 series washer, from 1988, that is still going strong. Never broke down once. I gave it to my cousin years ago because she has 6 kids to deal with. That machine is still going, with its matching dryer and is now 15 years old. Never one problem or service call for it. I wouldn't call that junk. Many vintage machines couldn't even stand up to the day to day beating that machine takes as it washes 30 plus loads a week between 6 kids, 2 adults and her 2 elderly parents who live with them. One bad experience does not condemn an entire line to doom. There is a reason that they are the best selling washers in the world.
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Post# 31726-8/22/2003-08:48 ||| westie2 (arkansas)
SUBJECT: Getting a Maytag ready to move
MESSAGE: My elderly mother (83) has decided to move closer to me and we will be moving her A806 25 to 30 year old washer and dryer. How should it be supported for moving. This washer hs gone day in and day out for all these years with only one new belt(s) replacement and new hose's. This washer went non stop every summer when all her grandkids came to vist for a month. This is a classic machine so want to keep it.
CRL
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Post# 31727-8/22/2003-09:52 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Getting a Maytag ready to move
MESSAGE: Most self-move and UHaul places have tub blocks that fit over the agitator to keep the machine stable during moves...
-ph
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Post# 31728-8/22/2003-09:56 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: The "Pisspot Theory" (imports)
MESSAGE: Two things could happen:
1) Just like the cars, American appliance makers loose market share to better quality imported appliances and then raise the quality to compete.
2) Just like GE, American appliance makers outsource products to foreign manufactures, rebadging them under the known American names.
-ph
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Post# 31729-8/22/2003-11:01 ||| salvoboy (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: RE: The "Pisspot Theory"
MESSAGE: Unfortunately, this discussion is very pertinent to me this week. My '95 Maytag Dependable Care, which up to now had been stellar, started making the noise of a 747 in the spin cycle this week. Washes OK, but is extremely noisy in the spin - though it does seem to spin at normal speed. Anyway, the friendly Maytag repairman comes tomorrow. Though the tranny is still under warranty, I'm not going to spend too much on labor if it's something serious. What kind of feedback could any of you give me about the Kenmore version of the Frigemore front-load washer and gas dryer. I'm kind of intrigued with it; Consumer Reports is pretty positive about both; and the pair would allow me to install an extra folding counter in the laundry room. Would love a set of LG's but 2 grand for laundry equipment with no reputation scares me a bit. I thought paying top dollar for the Maytags at the time would get me 15 years. My partner is insisting on a matched set even though our matching Dependable Care gas dryer is fine. Thanks!
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Post# 31730-8/22/2003-11:13 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........ (How do it work?)
MESSAGE: Just make sure all the cereal and milk are OUT of the bowl before you try this.
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Post# 31731-8/22/2003-11:14 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........ (Orbital Trans)
MESSAGE: Of course I do....I'll scan it sometime before monday and send it to you or put it on my site.
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Post# 31732-8/22/2003-11:14 ||| bendix5 (oregon)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........ (Orbital Trans)
MESSAGE: Go to this link and scroll down and you can see a drawing of the orbital tranny. Hope this works for you
LINK: http://www.maytag.com/mths/parts_ordering/part_order1.jsp?cs=0&BV_UseBVCookie=Yes&GID=&MID=47787&modelno=LAT3500AAE
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Post# 31733-8/22/2003-11:59 ||| dalangdon (Seattle, WA)
SUBJECT: RE: The "Pisspot Theory"
MESSAGE: I have a 2.5 year old Frigidaire front loader, and my best friend has the Kenmore version of the same machine. His is older by about two years, is much more heavily used than mine, and is holding up well. Mine is already starting to fall apart.
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Post# 31734-8/22/2003-12:28 ||| mulls (Johnson City,Tn)
SUBJECT: RE: The "Pisspot Theory"
MESSAGE: Very pleased with my Frigidaire FL and matching dryer-3 kids plus wife and me-LOTS of washing!2 years,no trouble at all.Raise the float level slightly,watch your sudsing carefully,and pre-drain your hot water line if washer is very far from hot watwe heater-and you will get superior cleaning and rinsing and good extraction.
Tom
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Post# 31735-8/22/2003-13:40 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: 1/18 runs fine, no leaks - YAY !!
MESSAGE: picked up what they called a "16", only one fixed full water level, plastic lid, gold, I assume bottom of the line 1972, Frigidaire washer yesterday, the cabinet is in awful shape, I figured this is a parts machine for sure, well the old saying "don't judge a book by its cover" certainly applies here, I started it up and it runs fine, quiet, the spin takes a tiny bit extra time to ramp up to speed, no leaks, YAY !!! so I removed this nasty looking cabinet and put the white one (extra from a stripped, broken down machine) on with an upgraded 1/18 control console and that was a nice, easy fix :-)
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Post# 31736-8/22/2003-15:06 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1/18 runs fine, no leaks - YAY !!
MESSAGE: Fantastic! That worked out well! I believe Robert or someone told me once that the 16 one has the same tub, it's just because of the water level you can fit less clothes. Alrighty then...LOL I thought it was so cool the first few times I saw a machine with swapped cabinets and control panels.
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Post# 31737-8/22/2003-15:13 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: 1/18 runs fine, no leaks - YAY !!
MESSAGE: Terrific Greg. Congratuations on the success of the brain surgery transplant LOL.
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Post# 31738-8/22/2003-15:52 ||| Manor_Avenue (Fresno, CA)
SUBJECT: Pink Maytag advertised awhile ago
MESSAGE: Just me, in my usual day-late & dollar-short, boat-missing M.O., asking if the Pink Maytag dryer advertised by Pulsator of Ann Arbor, Michigan, several months ago was sold. I just spotted the old posting while doing a YAHOO search. Thanks -- George (Fresno, CA)
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Post# 31739-8/22/2003-16:17 ||| camMURRAY20 (Savannah, GA)
SUBJECT: GE Harmony Washer
MESSAGE: The GE harmaony washer has a DD motor and faster SPIN speeds.
And a FLOW-THRU dispenser.
LINK: http://www.geharmony.com
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Post# 31740-8/22/2003-16:42 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Drifting from the Vintage
MESSAGE: From the forum entrance page:
"Our discussion forum was created for the purpose of discussing antique, vintage and classic major home appliances. What makes an appliance a classic? A classic is approximately 15 years old, vintage would be 30 and they become true antiques at 50 years. Since Applianceville was originally created for collectors and fans of the classic+ machines, we have also have created another site for our members and friends to discuss fun new modern appliances as well as any other off-topic subject, please check it out at the Applianceville Sandbox. "
LINK: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Applianceville-Sandbox/
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Post# 31741-8/22/2003-17:16 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1/18 runs fine, no leaks - YAY !!
MESSAGE: Finding another 1-18, you'll have enough for a whole laundromat soon!!
Excellent work - isn't it fun to get them running again?
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Post# 31742-8/22/2003-18:04 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: Bendix is Back!!
MESSAGE: My 1947 Bendix is back from repair shop. The timer
had to be sent to Mid West Timer Service in
Benton Harbor, Mi to be rebuilt. The machine is
bolted down to garage floor. I done a few loads in
it today and it works like a charm.
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Post# 31743-8/22/2003-18:05 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: 1956 Frigidaire Jetcone Coming Home Soon
MESSAGE: My 1956 Frigidaire Jetcone with solid tub should
be ready to come home from the repairshop by
next week. It will come with it's matching
electric dryer. Can't wait!!!!
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Post# 31744-8/22/2003-18:46 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: The "Pisspot Theory" (Kenmore FL)
MESSAGE: Check out the sandbox link
LINK: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Applianceville-Sandbox/message/1572
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Post# 31745-8/22/2003-18:52 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: The "Pisspot Theory" (Furthermore)
MESSAGE: New and improved?
LINK: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Applianceville-Sandbox/message/1573
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Post# 31746-8/22/2003-18:59 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Drifting from the Vintage (AMEN)
MESSAGE: Thank you Greg!
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Post# 31747-8/22/2003-21:19 ||| jmm63 (Verona, NJ)
SUBJECT: Something close to todays POD
MESSAGE: Does anyone have any photos or ads to share of the 69 or perhaps 70 kenmore line?? Still looking for that "certain" model, and todays POD is very close. Any help would be mucho aprreciato!!!
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Post# 31748-8/23/2003-01:34 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: The "Pisspot Theory" (Maytag Performa)
MESSAGE: Don't worry, they aren't NEARLY as bad as GE's transmissions. They just aren't quite as good as maytag's older transmissions. It should be fine, if it is going to fail, it will fail in the warrenty period. The atlantis transmissions have more problems it seems.
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Post# 31749-8/23/2003-01:35 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: pisspot
MESSAGE: I agree to every word you said in that post, I was just scared to say it:-)
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Post# 31750-8/23/2003-01:38 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: The "Pisspot Theory"
MESSAGE: It could be the tub bearing/seal. In that case, the labour would be excessive, but you could do the work yourself (it would just take a day unfortunatly.) Your dep. care has the same design that they had back in the 70s and before, don't trash it, yet.
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Post# 31751-8/23/2003-01:52 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: No cleaning failures here........ (Orbital Trans)
MESSAGE: Thanks, kurt_dixon150@hotmail.com
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Post# 31752-8/23/2003-06:21 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: ABC-O-Matic on Ebay
MESSAGE: Spotted on ebay this morning. An ABC-O-Matic washer (model 50) in Rockford, Illinois. According to seller, sat in garage for over 50 years and has never been used. Still has original cardboard and such in the tub. Apparently some cabinet rust because of dampness. Starting bid is $100. Couldn't post a link, so you will have to check this out for yourselves.
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Post# 31753-8/23/2003-07:41 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: ABC-O-Matic on Ebay
MESSAGE: Holy orbital agitation Batman!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2342373005&category=20714
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Post# 31754-8/23/2003-08:40 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT: Fri. 8/22/03 POD..."Hidden Era"
MESSAGE: Isn't it interesting how we went through the "hidden" era in the late 60's to mid 70's? TOL appliances had hidden control panels, several cars had hidden headlights, and central vaccuum systems were just coming into vogue. It is interesting how styling evolves, eh?
Duane
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Post# 31755-8/23/2003-10:30 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Fri. 8/22/03 POD..."Hidden Era"
MESSAGE: As a child, I always thought of those things as "mystery". It didn't keep me away, it only piqued my curiosity. Of course, those machines must have had a mom alarm on it because as soon as I'd open the flip cover of my aunt's Lady Kenmore, mama was right there in a second to scold me :-( .
Oh, the curiosity of a child in a stranger's laundry room :-D
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Post# 31756-8/23/2003-10:33 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Fri. 8/22/03 POD..."Hidden Era"
MESSAGE: Well this is fun! One came up a couple years ago too in CA that I think Jon Charles ordered. Does anyone know if member66854 (the bidder) is a member of this club?
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Post# 31757-8/23/2003-10:34 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Fri. 8/22/03 POD..."Hidden Era"
MESSAGE: OOps, that of course was in response to the ABC o matic. This browser doesn't change the color of the links I already read on this site unless I reload, so sometimes I get confused.
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Post# 31758-8/23/2003-11:31 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: ABC-O-Matic on Ebay (A B C o Matic )
MESSAGE: Any rich sugar daddies out there wanna get me that A B C o MATIC LOL. I can dream SIIIIIIIIIGH
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Post# 31759-8/23/2003-14:55 ||| Activator (Tulsa, OK)
SUBJECT: RE: ABC-O-Matic on Ebay (A B C o Matic )
MESSAGE: With MY looks and build, I'm supposed to BE a sugar daddy, so I can't even nab that beautiful machine using my...er...wiles! Oh, to be thirty-eight again!!! (either in years OR waist size).
I'd like to be objective about it, but every time I look at the pic on e-bay, I have to wipe the DROOL off my keyboard.
It's all my fault for not marrying a rich turf accountant with a Mercedes, sauna, and room for a pony...or so Vic says.
Hopefully ONE of us will get it, so the rest of us can live the experience vicariously.
I'm gonna slink off to the laundry room now, and drown my sorrows in concentrated April Fresh Downy...
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Post# 31760-8/23/2003-18:59 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Fri. 8/22/03 POD..."Hidden Era"
MESSAGE: Hmm, how come they got mad? Whenever I am playing with the vacuums or washer or dryer or dishwasher, my parents just ask what I am doing and I give them some crackpot story of how the dishwasher was broken (when I just want to open it up and tinker.) Then they leave me and think "weirdo" lol, no the only time my mom yelled at me was when I broke a wire in our central vacs hose (by twisting the end connection thing a few too many times) Other than that, my tinkering has proven to be useful (fixed quite a few things around the house:-)
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Post# 31761-8/24/2003-00:44 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Fri. 8/22/03 POD..."Hidden Era"
MESSAGE: When one is at a relative's house or family friend, and it's their machine and they *know* there's nothing wrong with it, or would be wondering how would *you* know there *is* something wrong, that story would hard to pull off. 8-)
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Post# 31762-8/24/2003-03:30 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: POD
MESSAGE: 1937 for that automatic washer?
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Post# 31763-8/24/2003-07:49 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: ABC-O-Matic on Ebay (A B C o Matic )
MESSAGE: Oh ya poor thing, I know exactly how ya feel. LOL
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Post# 31764-8/24/2003-08:30 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: 1961 Frigidaire Spin Tube Dishmobile (Frigidaire spin tube dishwasher)
MESSAGE: Mike, just makde sure that anything that isn't a plate (the spray can reah between plates) faces the spin tube and is tieted so that water can drain out of it. and as with any dishwasher, don't put small items behind large ones. My Grandmother's '63 had a loading diagram on the door.
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Post# 31765-8/24/2003-08:39 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: frigidaire jet cone washer (Yellow Frigidaire & Parts question)
MESSAGE: Since you have the part number, I would just go on-line an canvass various parts places and see if they have that part hanging around on a dusty shelf. You might also inquire it it was also made by an aftermarket company like Gemline and get their part number. This doubles your chances.
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Post# 31766-8/24/2003-08:49 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: What washer did DONNA REED own? (Samantha's windowed dishwasher)
MESSAGE: The windowed portable dishwasher (a Sears Kenmore top loader)was in Darren's apartment and was in the first episode only.
I have a non-windowed version of this machine and anyone who wants it can have it for free, works fine except that faucet coupler needs re-building. It's a Kenmore 600, white exterior, pink interior, no rust.
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Post# 31767-8/24/2003-08:52 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: 1963 Frigidaire washer--model number (Kenmore rear hinged lid)
MESSAGE: My 1955 Kenmore Cycla-Fabric had rear hinged lid.
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Post# 31768-8/24/2003-09:06 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: 1963 Frigidaire washer--model number (lid and door positions)
MESSAGE: It's sort of a trade-off, I do tend to set my controls with the lid up, so I tend to prefer the side-opening lid, but I can see where it could get in the way of loading, especially if one loads from a table, counter, or the top of the dryer. On the other hand, I prefer drop-down doors on dryers, since the dryer can then be on either side of the washer without the door being in the way when tranfering clothes. It also has saved me more than once when I've dropped items while transfering to dryer and they landed on the door instead of the floor. It's a rarity now in a car, but 2 of the cars I drive are 70's models and have the gas tank fill in the center of the car. Nice to not have to manuever in crowded gas stations to get the car on the right side of the pumps.
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Post# 31769-8/24/2003-09:12 ||| Keepnup (Yanceyville, NC)
SUBJECT: Frigiaire Refrigerator
MESSAGE: I have recently aquired a Frigidaire model #PWB USNAB K-399 upright refrigerator. In excellent condition, still runs on all original parts. Would like info on where to find out its value. Thank You,
Matt
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Post# 31770-8/24/2003-09:31 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: pisspot (Maytag/Magic Chef)
MESSAGE: It's the other way around, Maytag owns Magic Chef
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Post# 31771-8/24/2003-09:58 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1/18 runs fine, no leaks - YAY !! (and ... lint flow not working)
MESSAGE: had to replace the fill valve too, it does not have the circle fill but the design of the outer tub does not let me put a circle fill top from another machine on, so I kept the same one, and the water is not pumping throught the lint filter, I know the hose is not plugged, and I do not want to take apart the pump on for this; so I will live without it ... ... ...
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Post# 31772-8/24/2003-09:59 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: What washer did DONNA REED own? (Samantha's windowed dishwasher)
MESSAGE: I have the same Kenmore 600 and the Spin tube both in the basement now. I ran out of room. The Kenmore 600 does a fantastic job but the spin tube machine is not for me. You are very limited how to load this dishmobile. My 54 GE mobile maid is in my kitchen now and is a keeper. I have my eyes on a commercial Hobart , under the counter, single rack 220 volt. If I can not find one of these I am hoping to find a KA SS front . I want a work horse in the kitchen. Michael. Someone from the club is interested in my spin tube & Kenmore 600. Still need to have a few pic's taken to show people before I trade them away. Michael
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Post# 31773-8/24/2003-14:02 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (38 auto washer?)
MESSAGE: Hi Louis
1938 was the year for the first automatic washer in the states, but it was not THAT washer. It was the Bendix. Other automatics didn't hit the market until after the war. The Westinghouse Laundromat being the first with suspension that didn't require bolting to the floor and the Blackstone being the first agitator action automatic.
This ad has used a bit of "marketing literary license" freedom while illustrated the facts. Frigidaire's first automatic...in fact the very first Frigidaire washer -they never produced wringers ...was 47 or 48.
Rich
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Post# 31774-8/24/2003-15:18 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (38 auto washer?)
MESSAGE: Hi Rich,
I'm rather surprised by this historical deceit. The model in the ad looks quite similar to the early fifties model I think and they want us to believe that it was from the late thirties. I wonder why they wanted the public to think that it was older. Perhaps the idea that the styling was very outdated? To make Frigidaire look like the manufacturer of the first washing machines? I wonder.
Louis
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Post# 31775-8/24/2003-15:18 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: Re: Frigidaire Washer on E-Bay:
MESSAGE: Hey! Club Friend's my Club/Dear Member Friend Chris "aka" {christfr} Club Name has a 1962 Frigidaire Washer For Sale on E-Bay. He asked me to Post for him on the Club and I don't know how to Link the listing to the Applianceville.
He lives in St. Louis, Missouri to let you know if you check out the listing, to know which one is his.
I would appreciate if someone could please let me know how to list item's on E-Bay as a Link on Applianceville, thanks.
Peace, Steve "SactoTeddyBear"
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Post# 31776-8/24/2003-15:25 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Frigidaire Washer on E-Bay:
MESSAGE: Actually Steve it's quite easy. You select the link from the address part of your browser and you right click with your mouse. Click on copy and go to the message you want to post here on the club. Go to the 'URL Link to share:' and right click with your mouse again and click on paste. That's all.
BTW, here's the link.
Louis
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2342607511&category=20714
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Post# 31777-8/24/2003-19:17 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Frigidaire Washer on E-Bay:
MESSAGE: thats exactly like mine, although mine has the original three ring agitator, I bet it works well with the jetcone, although isn't the up n down stroke a bit slower on the three ring vs. the later jetcone ??
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Post# 31778-8/24/2003-22:23 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Fri. 8/22/03 POD..."Hidden Era" (Can't hide how I feel about old washers)
MESSAGE: Of course, my mom understood that I loved to watch washers but she didn't want me to play with other people's washers including relative's. I remember many times being dragged out of the bathroom, washhouse, or laundry room because I was playing with the washer. The best ones were in the country because they were a little older but they were in great shape.
My grandfather's sister had a 70s GE Filter-Flo. Being raised on Kenmores I found this fascinating. I would always go "potty" because I knew what was in there. The coolest thing is I went there a few months ago and went to take a look.... IT'S STILL THERE!!!! :-D I quietly and gently lifted the filter-flo out of the machine and held it in my hands for a few minutes then I gently put it back in the tub right where it was :-D . Yes, I misbehaved but it was Wirth it.
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Post# 31779-8/24/2003-23:12 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Fri. 8/22/03 POD..."Hidden Era"
MESSAGE: Oh ya, I guess it would be a rather tough situation if I was at a neighbor's house and they saw me watching their washer operate. I never thought of it that way since I usually only watch our appliances...
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Post# 31780-8/24/2003-23:14 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: 1963 Frigidaire washer--model number (Kenmore rear hinged lid)
MESSAGE: Ahh, I guess I am wrong:-) I learn something new every day at least.
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Post# 31781-8/24/2003-23:24 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Fri. 8/22/03 POD..."Hidden Era" (Can't hide how I feel about old washers)
MESSAGE: Oh cool, I like filter flos. Not surprising the GE is still there, they last such a long time. My aunt has a BOL filter flo (doesn't have the name "filter flo" on it, but it has everything to make it a filter flo.) She asked me to take a look at it (it was banging during agitate and was rinsing with HOT when set for COLD.) All I had to do was reverse the hoses and the hot/cold thing was fixed. But then of course I ran it through a cycle to hear the agitate noise (it was really loud banging that went away in a couple minutes of agitating and didn't come back until after a spin.) I didn't figure out what was wrong. (maybe clutch, but then why would the noise go away? And there were no weird noises for spin?) BTW we had a filter flo set before I was born (we got our belt drive kenmore on my birth day, feb 17, 1988) The dryer lasted until about 1994.
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Post# 31782-8/25/2003-00:01 ||| GESwivel (Southern CA)
SUBJECT: RE: What washer did DONNA REED own? (Samantha's windowed dishwasher)
MESSAGE: Interesting. I did not realize that the dishwasher was a Kenmore. You can spot the dishwasher in the first 2 episodes at their first rental house. In the second episode, Endora is sitting infront of it while Samantha tries to make a cake with her own two hands. Later, Samantha walks past it.
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Post# 31783-8/25/2003-05:23 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Frigidaire Washer on E-Bay:
MESSAGE: And the WCD 61 that I found also has had the three ring replaced with a jetcone....
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Post# 31784-8/25/2003-07:34 ||| Iberg (ny)
SUBJECT: Kenmore date manufactured query
MESSAGE: My old dryer is having some troubles. How can I determine it's date of manufacture? The model is: 110.86582820 3 wire 120/240 4.0A motor 23A heater+accs
thanks for your help
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Post# 31785-8/25/2003-07:35 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Frigidaire Washer on E-Bay:
MESSAGE: jetcone is noisier than the three-ring, my three-ring in both my '61 and '62 are in fair to poor condition
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Post# 31786-8/25/2003-07:42 ||| Iberg (ny)
SUBJECT: Kenmore date manufactured query
MESSAGE: My old dryer is having some troubles. How can I determine it's date of manufacture? The model is: 110.86582820 3 wire 120/240 4.0A motor 23A heater+accs
thanks for your help
i_berger@yahoo.com
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Post# 31787-8/25/2003-09:13 ||| Partscounterman (ST PAUL, MN)
SUBJECT: GE activators-straight vane vs spiral fins
MESSAGE: Does anyone out there know how GE marketed the two different types of activators in their washers? When I do parts research, I see both types shown on washers from the '60s & '70s. Were spiral fins more popular in some parts of the country? Was it up to the individual dealers to decide which type to order or could the consumer choose the one they thought would wash best. I've installed a ton of splines on those things and have seen both types. Which actually does wash better? I vote for spiral...
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Post# 31788-8/25/2003-10:10 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE activators-straight vane vs spiral fins (2nd vote for spiral)
MESSAGE: we had both type GE washers and the spiral agitator, hands down, did a much better job ..............
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Post# 31789-8/25/2003-10:12 ||| Activator (Tulsa, OK)
SUBJECT: RE: GE activators-straight vane vs spiral fins
MESSAGE: I absolutely vote for spiral, too. Logic tells us that it will be much less traumatic to fabrics. Visually, it appears to me that the spiral type produces much better water movement, and less yanking of clothes.
Maytags (older ones) with their slower agitation and wider oscillation path, are the exception...
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Post# 31790-8/25/2003-10:51 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore date manufactured query
MESSAGE: And the serial number is?
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Post# 31791-8/25/2003-13:07 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: What washer did DONNA REED own? (Samantha's windowed dishwasher)
MESSAGE: And here is some more info on Samantha's first dishwasher. I assume the window version was a discarded sales demo model that Hollywood acquired...
LINK: http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/unimatic1140/lst?.dir=/Z_quick&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/unimatic1140/lst%3f%26.dir=/%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 31792-8/25/2003-14:44 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigiaire Refrigerator
MESSAGE: I can't find a matching model number (or one even close) in my domestic model index - could this be a commercial-use refrigerator?
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Post# 31793-8/25/2003-14:46 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1/18 runs fine, no leaks - YAY !! (and ... lint flow not working)
MESSAGE: What is the model number of this washer?
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Post# 31794-8/25/2003-14:48 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Frigidaire Washer on E-Bay:
MESSAGE: Same strokes-per-minute on both machines, the Jetcone was a replacement for the three-ring that helped to minimize tangling.
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Post# 31795-8/25/2003-15:03 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GE activators-straight vane vs spiral fins
MESSAGE: I think you get more movement in the GE's with the spiral agitator as well, but there were a number of variations of the straight vaned versions over the years. Some had 4 large vanes to the top of the shaft, some only three. Some had smaller vanes on the skirt in addition to the larger vanes. My 74 Dispensall has a horribly violent straight vaned agitator that must surely have been designed by Oster or Waring rather than GE! Running at 100 spm, throw in some ice, tequila and Marg. mix and we've got a party!!
Peter sent me a spiral ramp agitator that is much better at moving the clothes, but there is as much lint with that as with any other agitator machine.
The Maytag agitator being more gentle is mostly a myth. If you look at older, white tub machines - especially the larger capacity, deep tub models, the porcelain is worn much more at the bottom sides of the basket than anywhere else. Consumer Rpts also did an article on "bottom of the line" one-speed machines once to test the need for a two-speed feature. The only machine that did damage to some sheer material they used was the Maytag.
LINK: http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/General+Electric&.dnm=Straight+Vane+Agitator.jpg&.view=t
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Post# 31796-8/25/2003-16:11 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE activators-straight vane vs spiral fins
MESSAGE: That one is the "low fin 8" that GE first came out with. The matching agitator in the standard capacity washer was the "low fin 6". After these came the "hi fin 4" agitator with the ridiculously tall fins that did not come to the end of the skirt. Hotpoint kept this agitator for a while and put their handwash agitator under it. Then they offset the 4 find around the barrel and skirt to create an even more punishing washing action...
Time to find the "hi fin 4" agitator for Greg to play with...
-ph
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Post# 31797-8/25/2003-16:15 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: All about the 70's
MESSAGE: In the current documentray series that VH1 is doing on the 70's, they have a segment on The Odd Couple. They show several apartment laundry room scenes with working Westinghouse slant-front Laundromats.
(Hmmmm... Thinking about this now, I don't remember if this segment was in one of the VH1 70's shows or the one on how hip it is to be gay...)
-ph
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Post# 31798-8/25/2003-16:35 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: New York City Laundromat
MESSAGE: The link has a few pictures of a laundromat in my uncle's neighborhood in the Bronx.
Enjoy!
Steve1-18
LINK: http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/svb14_2100/lst?.dir=/July+2003&.view=t
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Post# 31799-8/25/2003-16:39 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: PHOTO OF REAR HINGED KENMORE
MESSAGE: It's O.K. for the hinges to be on the back if the knobs are on the front....
B
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/REARHINGE/INDEX.htm
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Post# 31800-8/25/2003-16:45 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: PHOTO OF REAR HINGED KENMORE (very sexy )
MESSAGE: Those pics look very very sexy, woof I am jelous LOL
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Post# 31801-8/25/2003-16:48 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: SEXY
MESSAGE: Thanks. I've been working at it....
B
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Post# 31802-8/25/2003-16:56 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: New additions to the "Classic Family"
MESSAGE: Rhinnie and Steve announce the latest additions to the family.
Enjoy!
Steve1-18
LINK: http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/svb14_2100/lst?.dir=/August+2003&.view=t
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Post# 31803-8/25/2003-18:04 ||| christfr (st louis mo)
SUBJECT: RE: New additions to the "Classic Family" (very nice set)
MESSAGE: really a nice set you got hold of those are great running machines almost have to beat them to death with a hammer if you ever want them to die am still lovin those tags
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Post# 31804-8/25/2003-18:44 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: Re: Info on E-Bay about 1962 Frigidaire Washer:
MESSAGE: Hi! Club Friend's, here is the Link to the Frigidaire Washer on E-Bay. Sorry for forgetting it on my prior Posting.
Peace, Steve...
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=20714&item=2342607511
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Post# 31805-8/25/2003-18:48 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore date manufactured query (Re: Year of Dryer:)
MESSAGE: As far as I know older Kenmore Washer's and Dryer's before that Model Number, are the first 2-digit's after the "110" Numeral's. In your case, if it was still true of newer Machine's, yours should be a 1986 Model Dryer.
Peace, Steve
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Post# 31806-8/25/2003-18:48 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: New additions to the "Classic Family"
MESSAGE: Hi Steve and Rhinnie!
Nice Maytags! I had the exact same set for many years, same buttons and control dial, but the console was a copper color instead of the blue yours has. Loved the lighted console.
Regards,
Rich
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Post# 31807-8/25/2003-18:51 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE activators-straight vane vs spiral fins (Re; Straight Vane or Spiral:)
MESSAGE: I certainly Vote for the Spiral Agitator's in any and all Top-Load Washer's, by far they do a much better job at Washing, I believe even over the newer Dual-Action's.
Peace, Steve
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Post# 31808-8/25/2003-19:03 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: All about the 70's
MESSAGE: "It's hip to be square... err... triangle..."
oops, wrong decade.
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Post# 31809-8/25/2003-19:03 ||| lbcarguy (Long Beach, CA)
SUBJECT: POD
MESSAGE: Hi,
This is the washer we had from the time I was 3 yrs old till I was 18. We gave it to a family in need when moving to California. I am currently looking for one. Any leads, let me know.
Mike
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Post# 31810-8/25/2003-19:04 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: PHOTO OF REAR HINGED KENMORE (oops)
MESSAGE: page not found. The Slytherins stole it.
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Post# 31811-8/25/2003-19:07 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: RE: New York City Laundromat (New York City Laundromat)
MESSAGE: Hi there. I am originally from Bayside, Queens and
spent many wonderful hours in laundromats there
in the 1950's and 1960's. I remember Philco front
loaders, apex bounce-o-matics, westinghouse
slant front laundromats ( I have one in my
current collection). I also remember sta-puff and
nu-soft fabric softeners when they first came out.
They worked great in oversudsed front loaders...
would kill suds in a few seconds.
I moved to Palm Springs,
California 6 years ago to get away from cold
weather.
Ross Roberts
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Post# 31812-8/25/2003-19:09 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: RE: GE activators-straight vane vs spiral fins (Re; Straight Vane or Spiral:)
MESSAGE: hi steve......greetings from palm springs....i am
with you....i do not like the modern dual action
agitators.....give me a traditional agitator with
a good layer of tide suds....
ross roberts....nycaross@aol.com
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Post# 31813-8/25/2003-19:15 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE activators-straight vane vs spiral fins (Re; Straight Vane or Spiral:)
MESSAGE: Hey Ross, thank you for your support. What part of Calif do you live in? I'm in the Northern part, in Sacramento. I do have a few Wp/K's that do have the Dual-Action's and I thought at their time, they were pretty good, but under my Breath, I was wishing they still had the original "Roto-Swirl's" in them, oh well, modern Technoligy, huh Ross?
Peace, Steve
P.S. "OOPS" I just previewed my Posting and saw your being in Palm Springs. It must be a "Blonde" Moment...He!He!He!
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Post# 31814-8/25/2003-20:37 ||| Bendix5 (oregon)
SUBJECT: RE: SEXY
MESSAGE: Thanks for sharing your Kenmores with us Bob. They remind me
of the front of an old Ford. The downey balls are great too.
Did the washer come with the roto swirl agitator or straight vane. Take care
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Post# 31815-8/25/2003-20:40 ||| Bendix5 (oregon)
SUBJECT: RE: New additions to the "Classic Family"
MESSAGE: Hi Guys,I have the same Maytag A806. I have had it for several years and won't part with it. I have a newer about 12 years old to with orbital tranny standard tub. That is a fun machine too and I have a blue power fin in it with an old chrome cap filter from years ago so the inside looks sort of retro. I also have a black power fin I put in sometimes too. I put in a Maytag stop ring so they just pop in. I sure would like to find a dryer to match my A806. They are truly a beautiful machine. Enjoy!
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Post# 31816-8/25/2003-21:28 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1/18 runs fine, no leaks - YAY !! (model #)
MESSAGE: greg, I will get the model # for you ......
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Post# 31817-8/25/2003-21:37 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: KENMORE AGITATOR
MESSAGE: The Super Roto Swirl is not original. The original had three short straight veins and three cigar shaped bumps between the veins on the skirt. It moved the clothes gently and evenly on both strokes, whereas the Super Roto Swirl pulls very vigorously on one stroke and takes a breath on the back stroke, but the result is much better turnover & washing with the Super Roto Swirl, which, by the way, features BOTH curved & straight portions of the veins! By the way, I ALWAYS pull out the agitator & wipe down the machine at the end of every wash day, just like my Grandmother did.
The link should work. I just checked it.
Peace.
B
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/REARHINGE/INDEX.htm
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Post# 31818-8/25/2003-21:37 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: New additions to the "Classic Family" (Classic Family)
MESSAGE: Steve
Real nice Maytag set
Peter
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Post# 31819-8/25/2003-22:10 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: New additions to the "Classic Family"
MESSAGE: Great looking machines - and man! ;-)
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Post# 31820-8/25/2003-22:13 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: KENMORE AGITATOR
MESSAGE: Love the pink Sanyo! Do you still use that for spinning?
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Post# 31821-8/26/2003-00:07 ||| Nuggett33c (Bristol, Conn)
SUBJECT: Farberware
MESSAGE: Looking for the instruction manual for the Farberware Digital Convection oven(model#467). Even a copy would be great!
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Post# 31822-8/26/2003-01:43 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: New additions to the "Classic Family"
MESSAGE: Cool set, nice pics. It looks to be an ex. large capacity model? The washer at work only has Low, Medium and Normal.
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Post# 31823-8/26/2003-01:45 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore date manufactured query (Re: Year of Dryer:)
MESSAGE: Actually Steve, it is the first and third numbers, so it looks to be a 1985 model, close:-)
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Post# 31824-8/26/2003-01:49 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: KENMORE AGITATOR
MESSAGE: I can't get the page up, it just says "page not found"
Maybe it knows I am Kurt:-)
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Post# 31825-8/26/2003-03:30 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: KENMORE AGITATOR (Re: Link Page:)
MESSAGE: Hey! Bob, I can't get your Link Page to open, it just tells me that it is not able to be found, what's happening? It did that on the original Posting you had too.
Peace, Steve
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Post# 31826-8/26/2003-04:39 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: KENMORE AGITATOR
MESSAGE: Hey Bob,
The Super Roto Swirl is my favourite agitator. I had seen it before but actually noticed how well it was working when I stayed in a hotel in the south and I went to the laundryroom to do some laundry. I was impressed by the roll over of that agitator and I bet that agitator helped to get some really nasty stains out of my jeans together with the Tide that was provided.
Louis
LINK: http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/foraloysius/vwp?.dir=/2002+Convention+and+Holidays&.dnm=Super+Rotoswirl.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 31827-8/26/2003-04:48 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: New additions to the "Classic Family"
MESSAGE: Congratulations Steve. Are you guys having a Maytag month in the south. We just had Jason's pictures. I love the pushbuttons on this washer, it makes the machine so very flexible.
BTW, are there still advantages with modern detergent on doing a warm rinse with a hot wash?
Louis
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Post# 31828-8/26/2003-07:29 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: KENMORE AGITATOR (I remember those)
MESSAGE: OMG! The laundromat my mom worked for had these Kenmore top loaders and two Milnor FL's.
LINK: http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/foraloysius/vwp?.dir=/2002+Convention+and+Holidays&.dnm=Kenmore+control+panel.jpg&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/foraloysius/vwp%3f.dir=/2002%2bConvention%2band%2bHolidays%26.dnm=Super%2bRotoswirl.jpg%26.src=ph
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Post# 31829-8/26/2003-09:34 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: KENMORE AGITATOR
MESSAGE: Of course Your Majesty, we've also fond memories of you perched atop a stool in Robert's basement, watching the black bakelite classic version of this agitator in action, inside a classic machine with a classic waterfall lint filter.
QEOM
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Post# 31830-8/26/2003-09:44 ||| salvoboy (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: RE: KENMORE AGITATOR
MESSAGE: Oooooooh Bob. Those are the best pics yet of my favorite Kenmore! Thanks!!
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Post# 31831-8/26/2003-10:10 ||| salvoboy (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: The Not So Lonely Repairman
MESSAGE: At the risk of having the content monitors scold me, I'll give an update of my Maytag story from last week. Seems there are a number of 'tag devotees here and this may have a bit of relevance to the classics.
So, Maytag service came on Sat. and in about 10 minutes the repairman replaced a bad pulley on the motor. Not being a repairing kind of guy, I had never seen the inside of my '95 Dependable Care. Wow, what a model of simplicity.
Anyway, the service guy told me that their new designs were not nearly as reliable, but cheaper to manufacture (go figure). When I told him I was worried I'd have to buy a new set based on the horrendous noise it was making earlier, his response was: "Hmm....you may want a new set some day - I suppose. But call me because I'll buy this one from you. We've built this design since the 50's and we don't make 'em like this anymore." Gee whiz, maybe I have a future classic appliance on my hands???
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Post# 31832-8/26/2003-10:33 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore date manufactured query (Re: Year of Dryer:)
MESSAGE: The numbers in Model number denote when that series came out. The actual date the machine rolled off the line is in the serial number.
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Post# 31833-8/26/2003-13:04 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore date manufactured query (Re: Year of Dryer:)
MESSAGE: I was told by both a Sears Salesman and a Sears Service Technician quite some time ago in the 60s that the first 2-Digit's after the "110" Digit's were the year of the Machines.
Steve
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Post# 31834-8/26/2003-13:04 ||| christfr (st louis mo)
SUBJECT: RE: The Not So Lonely Repairman (not like the old days)
MESSAGE: yea its sad even maytag had gone down hill. i love them they are still my favs but the oldies are still the best. i bought a neptune when they first came out and for the first 4 years it was great but you better take a servie plan out when you buy cause your gonna need it. i have a 68 set and a 54 automatic maytags in the garage and they are total work horses love them. most of the ond ones dont want to die. one thing i can say for the tags is that if you want to kill them you had better get a sledg hammer. go find an old set youll love them
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Post# 31835-8/26/2003-13:54 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore date manufactured query (Re: Year of Kenmore)
MESSAGE: The model year is in the model number. Kenmore mostly changed their models and styles year to year, so it is pretty accrurate. But there are several years when the model lines did not change, so you could have a 110.63xxxxxx with a serial number that indicates 1965 for example.
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Post# 31836-8/26/2003-13:56 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: New additions to the "Classic Family"
MESSAGE: STEVE!!! They're gorgeous. The ULTIMATE in Maytag Laundry Fexibility. I wanted those so bad when I was growing up!!!
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Post# 31837-8/26/2003-15:15 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: The Not So Lonely Repairman
MESSAGE: I'll say one thing, the LAT model maytags are still based on the old dependable care design. Whereas the atlantis and performa are norge based designs. Ok, back to vintage...
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Post# 31838-8/26/2003-16:34 ||| rayjay (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: The Not So Lonely Repairman
MESSAGE: The older Maytags did't need much repair because their agitation was poor, and they did not do a good job of spinning the laundry out. I have one that was purchased in 1992, an LAT 9900. It had to have the tub bearing and tube seal replaced in 1994. Would love to get rid of this machine and go back to a front loader. (Not a Neptune either.)
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Post# 31839-8/26/2003-19:41 ||| mulls (Johnson City,Tn)
SUBJECT: indexing tub
MESSAGE: How far back does the indexing tub design go,and who origionated it?
Thanks
Tom
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Post# 31840-8/26/2003-20:55 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: ABC-O-MATIC
MESSAGE: Who is washer4u ? I see he is bidding on the washer on ebay. Is he one of us? Thanks, Mark
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Post# 31841-8/26/2003-21:50 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: ABC-O-MATIC
MESSAGE: Mark, that would be me ... Todd
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Post# 31842-8/26/2003-21:53 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore date manufactured query (FROM WPL)
MESSAGE:
Section G
DATE SUPERSEDES SUBJECT SECTION PAGE
10/1/00 12/1/99 model/serial plate information g
MODEL/SERIAL PLATE INFORMATION The model number identifies an appliance with particular features and indicates the year of introduction. The serial number indicates where and when a product was built and includes a sequential serial number. It is important that you become familiar with the model and serial number formats so that you can accurately answer consumers' questions and correctly document model and serial numbers on warranty claims.
Determining the year of manufacture The year codes in the serial numbers for the 1970's were repeated in the 1980's. Both model and serial number are needed to identify a specific appliance manufactured during the 1970's and 1980's. For example, the "5" in the serial number—C50734686—for a Whirlpool built washer indicates the product was manufactured either in 1975 or 1985.
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Post# 31843-8/26/2003-22:00 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore date manufactured query (FROM WPL)
MESSAGE: Furthermore, if anyone actually wants to call Whirlpool to get a copy of this so they can have the black and white facts in front of them please feel free to do so. They should also call Sears Repair Headquarters and request a copy. Maybe then and only then everyone will finally be happy. Although I am sure some still won't believe it.
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Post# 31844-8/26/2003-22:12 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: History of the air conditioner
MESSAGE: I know some of us are vintage AC enthusiasts.
Here's a page on About.com about Willis Carrier, inventor of the air conditioner.
Check out the pic on that page. It would be COOL (pun intended) to find and own one of those early units.
One of the BEST sounds in the world to fall asleep to is an air conditioner or a fan with metal blades. Somehow the mixture of hum and rushing air or water (like in a washing machine) is very pleasant.
LINK: http://inventors.about.com/library/weekly/aa081797.htm
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Post# 31845-8/26/2003-22:16 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: History of the air conditioner
MESSAGE: The house in which I grew up had window a/c units. As a result, I cannot sleep if there is no background noise in the room.
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Post# 31846-8/26/2003-23:38 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: The Not So Lonely Repairman
MESSAGE: Haha, maytags had good agitation. You really, honestly think that the reason why they were such a solid design was because they had long, smooth, slow agitation strokes? Hahaha. They were solid because the transmission was good, the pump rarely leaked, and they were simple. BTW the spin was not bad at all, in the 600s. Better that whirlpool's/kenmore's, as good as most other top loaders. The tub bearing and seal may get replaced after 1 year or (more often) after like 30 years (or beyond) Your 1992 maytag has the same tub bearing and seal as a 1965 maytag. That says something for the design.
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Post# 31847-8/27/2003-00:49 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: indexing tub
MESSAGE: The indexing tub was a Franklin design sometime in the mid 60's I believe. Earlier Franklin/Beam machines indexed as well, but I found some mention in repair data that this was discontinued/corrected to provide better wash action so they must have gone back to it in later years.
Franklin evolved from the Beam Manufacturing company that provided components and even whole machines for many early automatic washer brands. The POD Kelvinator Tuesday was a Franklin design machine. Franklin designs were (and still are) incorporated into the infamous WCI - now owned by Electrolux washers that include brands such as (White) Westinghouse, Frigidaire, Gibson and many "store brands" as well.
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Post# 31848-8/27/2003-01:12 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: The Not So Lonely Repairman
MESSAGE: How rude.
Kurt, laughing at other members like this only makes the opinions you so quickly present as facts even less credible.
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Post# 31849-8/27/2003-01:31 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: The Not So Lonely Repairman
MESSAGE: Ahhh, come on, lighten up. Sure everyone has an opinion, why is mine less credible, I think it has less to do with "hahaha" and more to do with
A. I am only 15
B. You won't let the previous uneasyness go
Jeez, this is a tough croud!
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Post# 31850-8/27/2003-01:33 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: The Not So Lonely Repairman
MESSAGE: The way I saw that you don't take me seriously is when you say "even less credible" So my opinions count for nothing? Please tell me why? Who said what I said were facts and not opinion?
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Post# 31851-8/27/2003-02:21 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: GE spin speed?
MESSAGE: Does anyone know how fast a GE spins? (Older style obviously)
Thanks, I have decided to compare the spin speeds of all the main brands from the 70s. (GE, Maytag, Kenmore/whirlpool, Frigidaire)
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Post# 31852-8/27/2003-03:14 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: The Not So Lonely Repairman
MESSAGE: Is it too difficult for you to post in the Sandbox about newer appliances?
LINK: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Applianceville-Sandbox/
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Post# 31853-8/27/2003-07:40 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: The Not So Lonely Repairman
MESSAGE: Don't read anything into it, I thought you were rude for laughing at another member's opinion, nothing more.
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Post# 31854-8/27/2003-07:45 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GE spin speed? (G-Force)
MESSAGE: You will want to get the tub diameter for each machine as well. That is a must to compare one brand against another. The actual spin speed isn't as important as the G-force a machine can attain combining spin speed and tub diameter. Somewhere on the web there is a program that will calculate this information, does anyone remember where it was?
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Post# 31855-8/27/2003-07:48 ||| mulls (Johnson City,Tn)
SUBJECT: RE: indexing tub
MESSAGE: Thanks for the education-I always wondered what the motivation for this design was,because rollover action is just terrible unless lightly loaded-maybe they were just trying to be different.
Tom
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Post# 31856-8/27/2003-08:06 ||| mulls (Johnson City,Tn)
SUBJECT: RE: The Not So Lonely Repairman
MESSAGE: Here is another Maytag opinion-they really were fine machines.Boring?yes,but remember what most people want-to put in dirty clothes and take out clean ones.Most of us washer nuts would prefer something more interesting-overflow rinses,oddball washing actions,etc,but old Maytags earned their reputation by being tough,no nonsense machines.Are the new machines as good?probably not,but remember in terms of cost(the value of a 1965 dollar compared to a 2003 dollar)they are MUCH CHEAPER.
Tom
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Post# 31857-8/27/2003-09:18 ||| rayjay (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: The Not So Lonely Repairman
MESSAGE: I guess I just got stuck with a lemon. However, the washing action improved when I replaced the original agitator with the new load sensing agitator from Maytag. I got tired of the old smooth agitator not moving the clothes around. (I am not one to overload either.) My cousing who had five boys had an even older Maytag and had to use a stick to turn the clothes every few minutes on a large load. I guess I am just a front loader person. The front loaders do a much better job all around in washing and rinsing than any top loader on the market. I proved this by hooking up my old Westinghouse front loader and doing a load of whites including my sons white socks from a week of camping. The socks came out clean from just a 20 minute soak and a 16 minute wash from the front loader. I did the other half of this load in the Maytag, with an overnight soak, changing the water, and a regular wash. The load coming out of the front loader was definetly much cleaner.
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Post# 31858-8/27/2003-09:26 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: History of the air conditioner
MESSAGE: This is a cool (no pun intended) article. I love vintage window units almost as much as washing machines. The oldest one we had when I was growing up was a 1952 Deering unit with a delightfully sounding compressor that put me to sleep better than a lullaby.
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Post# 31859-8/27/2003-09:31 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: GE spin speed?
MESSAGE: We had a 59 GE that had a much faster spin speed than Kenmores and Whirlpools. I think also faster than Maytags of the day. Frigidaire was the only brand that had a faster spin I think.
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Post# 31860-8/27/2003-09:49 ||| Partscounterman (ST PAUL, MN)
SUBJECT: Appliance lit.-how much is too much?
MESSAGE: As I prepare to move to Hawaii, I just packed a box of appliance related stuff-old owners manuals-60's Kenmore dryer, Maytag AMP, 50's GE dishwasher etc. New and old sales brouchures. Even parts references (1948 Easy parts book is a total gas!!! They had every type of agitator known to man!) So my first box of all this stuff weighs 30lbs and that only about 1/2 of it. Do I really need to haul all this truck with me halfway 'round the world? (Of course !!!!!)
The love of appliances always seems to be a heavy matter.
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Post# 31861-8/27/2003-09:52 ||| rayjay (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: GE activators-straight vane vs spiral fins
MESSAGE: Nice to see this machine again. Went with my uncle to buy the Americana in the 70's for my grandmother. This was a great machine. We got rid of it 7 years ago when the house was sold. It was replaced by another GE, later model, spiral agitator. The Americana would only agitate on the slow speed. This machine never had a repair, and did the laundry for three people, two of them being ill for years. THis was a great machine. I do not recall it eating up the clothes.
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Post# 31862-8/27/2003-11:17 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: GE activators-straight vane vs spiral fins
MESSAGE: My 59 GE had a straight vane and it did a terrific job of moving the clothes thru the water and never so much as tore one button off. Some spiral vanes I have seen didn't clean nearly as well.
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Post# 31863-8/27/2003-11:32 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore date manufactured query (FROM WPL)
MESSAGE: I don't...
(ducking)
-ph
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Post# 31864-8/27/2003-11:37 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: indexing tub
MESSAGE: Seems to me someone here said that they just needed to put one spring into the transmission and it would no longer index...
In order for the indexing tub to be effective, you need a spiral ramp agitator that worked against the direction of index to create more force for sucking the clothes down. The straight vane agitators in the indexing tub are very ineffective.
-ph
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Post# 31865-8/27/2003-11:40 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Appliance lit.-how much is too much? (never too much)
MESSAGE: No, you don't need to haul it around... You can put the stuff on eBay!!! Might help you pay for your move!!!
-ph
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Post# 31866-8/27/2003-11:44 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: The Not So Lonely Repairman
MESSAGE: I don't think it was poor agitation that attributed to Maytags longevity; I think it was short agitation times, along with the flexible agitator fins that took some strain off the transmission. Either way, the beginning of the end was the orbital transmission in 1991.
-ph
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Post# 31867-8/27/2003-12:05 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: GE activators-straight vane vs spiral fins
MESSAGE: I like the agitation overall much better in the older GEs. It works well and it's gentler than the later ones. You don't want to wash any "modern fabrics" in a GE with the later fast agitation if the machine has only one speed or the slow speed is broken, as so often happens with these.
Had a Hotpoint for a while with the spiral and the fast agitation. Cleaned very well and was ok for sturdy fabrics, but nothing else. I felt it was harder on fabrics than a direct drive Sears.
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Post# 31868-8/27/2003-12:08 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The Not So Lonely Repairman
MESSAGE: I agree that while these may not offer much to the conisseur of interest and drama (although machines like Jason's go back far enough now that they are interesting to me aesthetically) I have never had issues with cleaning. I've used them in many coinop situations mainly and always got excellent results following normal laundering conventions.
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Post# 31869-8/27/2003-12:23 ||| mulls (Johnson City,Tn)
SUBJECT: RE: The Not So Lonely Repairman
MESSAGE: I agree Scott-well said.The older ones are fine looking machines,and not cluttered-simple and straightforward,just like the way they operate.I failed to point out that I think that is also part of their appeal-their simple but attractive control panel.Cleaning,I agree,is certainly competent.Kinda like a Buick-nothing to make the pulse rate go up,but there when you need it.As to another post,I cant imagine someone loading a machine so full that it took stirring with a stick to get turnover!
Tom
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Post# 31870-8/27/2003-12:51 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: GE activators-straight vane vs spiral fins
MESSAGE: Point well made. The older GE's in the 50's had a wider and slower agitation than the later models and in my opinion, was much more effective and gentler on fabrics.
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Post# 31871-8/27/2003-17:34 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: The Not So Lonely Repairman
MESSAGE: I agree, I have watched the maytag at work, there is no way there is poor turnover. We never overload it (anymore, since I am there:-) Filled right to capacity, it turns muddy, sandy towels over just fine. At least as good as a kenmore/whirlpool belt drive, and better than any new machine (yes, even direct drives, their agitation stroke is too short.)
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Post# 31872-8/27/2003-17:35 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: GE spin speed? (G-Force)
MESSAGE: Does a larger tub pull more G's? It seems so since the outside of the tub spins "faster" (not faster in terms of RPMs, but faster in terms of MPH.)
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Post# 31873-8/27/2003-17:49 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: Re: Product Locating:
MESSAGE: Hi! Club Member Friend's, I have just Posted a request for some Product locating help on the Clothes Hamper Site and I would be very appreciative for any and help or advise of locating and making a purchase of the Product. If anyone has some info for me, please E-Mail me or Post as possible on the Clothes Hamper Site.
Thank you and Peace to all, Steve
SactoTeddyBear@aol.com
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Post# 31874-8/27/2003-18:34 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: RE: The Not So Lonely Repairman
MESSAGE: As I own A 1961 Whirlpool,1966 Maytag set,1966 Filter-Flo spiral,and 1965 Kenmore 800 set with Roto-Swirl,I feel I should comment. The Maytag set is cute,and vintage,and really looks more like 1950's than 1960's,however the washing action is poor,on large or med. settings with little turnover.The spin speed is faster than W.P./Kenmore,however the spin basket is small in diameter,and water extraction is awful. I also have stirred the clothes a few times on med.or large loads,because of the lack of turnover on wash.(not overloaded either)The machine does very little work,because of it's design,resulting in a good repair reputation. The 61 Whirlpool beats it hands down,no contest.The turnover rate is great,thanks to the good design of the Surgilator,and the clothes are dryer,due to the larger diameter spin basket,even though the spin speed is slightly lower than Maytags. THe Kenmore is very similar to the W.P.,the only change is with the Roto-Swirl adg. This makes for even greater turnover rate than the W.P. and creates an amazing change between the two machines.They both are twice as good as Maytag however. The 66 G.E. Filter-Flo is in a class by itself. It is well built,but rough on clothes,violent washing action,and spin.Plus it uses as much water as a camel!Spin speed is faster than any of the others,and water extraction is slightly better than the W.P./Kenmores.I like the Filter-Flo because it's a cool machine to watch. My favorite machine is the 61 Whirlpool.My least favorite are the Maytag's
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Post# 31875-8/27/2003-18:40 ||| salvoboy (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: RE: The Not So Lonely Repairman
MESSAGE: No, it's certainly not too difficult to post in the Sandbox. It's actually quite simple, especially with your helpful link.
However, as you might have noticed from the beginning of my posting, I feel I tied my note to the classics in an albeit indirect way. I also think it provoked a discussion that had relevance to a line of machines that, while not terribly flashy, were probably the premier quality American machines of their time. And, by virtue of the fact that Maytags did not change significantly in design for decades, there are many of these machines out there that are classics or very similar to classics.
Considering the volume of discussion here concerning subjects other than classic appliances, I don't think my posting (at least the second one) was that far off the mark. Relaying a story from an appliance professional about "how they used to build them in the good old days" didn't seem like a big sin. My apologies to you and anyone else I may have offended.
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Post# 31876-8/27/2003-19:27 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: The Not So Lonely Repairman
MESSAGE: I just have to disagree based on my experiences. I have used and watched whole cycles of a maytag, kenmore belt drive and GE filter flo. IMO, the kenmore just didn't remove as much water as the maytag. That is my opinion, just like it is your opinion tha the kenmore removed more. Neither of us has performed a water test of anything to prove which removed more water, so both of us only have opinions at this point. The maytag did just as much work as the GE or kenmore, all 3 machines had to
1. move clothes through water at least twice (wash and rinse)
2. drain the water
3. spin the clothes
How was the maytag's job any easier? All 3 of the washers had good repair records, but the maytag had the best, simply because the design is simple and sturdy, there is no two ways around it, the maytag design is sturdy. It performs as much work as the other 2 washers. I have watched the washing action in all 3 washers, the maytag and kenmore rolled over capacity loads pretty much the same. Like you said, the GE has faster agitation than the other two, so it does get good rollover. But I have to disagree most with when you say "the maytag had an easier time" I don't see how pushing and pulling clothes through water can be easy with one machine, and hard with another. The flexing of the agitator fins has nothing to do with this, the fins may flex a 1/4 of an inch, the stroke is about halfway one way, half the other, so the agitator has to move clothes for half the stroke minus about half an inch.
This was just my opinion based on my experiences with the 3 mentioned washers.
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Post# 31877-8/27/2003-19:59 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: LONELY CHILDREN & THEIR OPINIONS
MESSAGE: I'm thinking that the validity of a man who has REBUILT the '61 whirlpool and lives with it in his home, beside the other machines he mentioned, beats the OPINIONS of a suddenly 15 year old little boy. What happened being 14, by the way, Kurt....didn't you go right from being 13 to being 15.....just my opinion.
'61 Whirlpools Rock!
B
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Post# 31878-8/27/2003-20:33 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: Re: Recent Posting's:
MESSAGE: Hey! All of your Club Member's that are "Mud-Slinging" again, why don't you all just Grow-Up and act your age and stop this "Bull-Shit" and just get back onto Track about what this Site is meant to be for and just talk about the Appliances. Keep your opinion's to youself and not being at each other's Throat, or at the least E-Mail each other to do further
"Mud-Slinging" with each other, if you just absolutely have to be Big Babies about everything wrongful that is being said about each other. I think that 2-of you to say the least definately need a very serious "Attitude Adjustment." If you can't take a little critizism or can't accept what is being written, then like they say, "If you can't stand the Heat, then get the Hell out of the Kitchen."
Regrets, "Mad As Hell" Steve
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Post# 31879-8/27/2003-20:51 ||| mulls (Johnson City,Tn)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Recent Posting's: (firestorm)
MESSAGE: Seems I started a firestorm here-didnt mean to.I dont care for Maytags myself,but in the beginnings of these posts I had some complementary things to say about them.I prefer Klipsch in speakers but respect those who go for Bose.I like Camel in cigarettes,but dont throw off on those who prefer Luckys...
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Post# 31880-8/27/2003-21:13 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: The Not So Lonely Repairman
MESSAGE: Hi Everyone! Now for my 2 cents. If you're not getting good agitation/rollover in your Maytag. Change the belt! While they NEVER had rollover like the three ring Frigidaire or Kelvinator, they had fairly decent rollover if not overloaded. As far as front loaders, PLEASE!!! let's not even compare the two. Front loaders are generally awful at cleanability...that's why it takes so much l o n g e r just for the wash portion of the cycle. Flopping clothes around in a little susdy water does not result in good cleanability! Why else would it take two or even three rinses to get the soap out if they were that good? Now go fix that Maytag and enjoy it for another 30 years!!! Mark
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Post# 31881-8/27/2003-21:35 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Recent Posting's: (FTS)
MESSAGE: I hear ya. I figured this would happen again. I'm going into lurk mode but I'll keep in touch with the friends I've made here and I'll sho nuff attend the wash-ins (whenever they happen).
The end.
Peace
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Post# 31882-8/27/2003-21:37 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: The Not So Lonely Repairman
MESSAGE: LOLOLOL!!!! You guys crack me up!!!
Great rollover does not good washability make! Maytag may have a slower turnover, but there is no doubt that it washed clothes well. They wouldn't have lasted that design long if it didn't work, especially at the premium price that Maytag got for their machines! Westinghouse had good rollover but poor washability. WP/KM washers were rather brutal on clothes and filtered water thru the clothes when draining.
And as far as fronts versus tops, let's not even go there! They are completely different, there's pros and cons of both, and they both do the job. And most load coming out of most top loaders would still produce suds after 3 rinses when put into a front loader!
No one ever wins these debates, so enjoy them and don't get caught up in the drama!
-ph
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Post# 31883-8/27/2003-22:02 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: The Not So Lonely Repairman (Here-Here)
MESSAGE: I'm with you Peter all the way!! Just enjoy them and have fun!
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Post# 31884-8/27/2003-22:15 ||| mulls (Johnson City,Tn)
SUBJECT: RE: The Not So Lonely Repairman (Here-Here)
MESSAGE: Guess you are right Peter-it is just that I am relatively new to the club and spend most of my time on the sidelines-surprised by the venom sometimes-this is a rough bunch!
Tom
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Post# 31885-8/27/2003-22:18 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The Not So Lonely Repairman (Here-Here)
MESSAGE: Well Tom, please do hang in there, and I say Peter is right as well. It is only natural that different people will have different opinions and experiences. I for one certainly do not want to see people I enjoy feel alienated and like they don't wish to participate.
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Post# 31886-8/27/2003-22:24 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: LONELY CHILDREN & THEIR OPINIONS
MESSAGE: Geeze, what's your damage all the time regarding teenagers? Not all of them are blubbering idiots. I know of a fellow who, at the age of 17 or so, had a difference of OPINION with a servicemen, who was probably around 32 at the time, in regards to the rinse-fill increment on a Whirlpool washer timer . . . and I recall that a discussion here recently upholds that the 17-year-old was right.
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Post# 31887-8/27/2003-22:33 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: Sooo The best machine is????
MESSAGE: Ok Everyone,
What is your favorite vintage washing machine,front or top loader? And for what reasons?
I have stated what mine is,and have stated why. All of my machines have been rebuilt,by the way,including new correct belts.I say turnover is important to get clothes clean.In spite of the neutral drain issue.And unlike Maytag,Whirlpool at least has a filter system! Clothes can't get clean when they are gently floating on the top,barely moving back and forth,as in a vintage Maytag.And as far as Maytag using that design for so long? Well thats why everything stops when you lift the lid.They never wanted the customer to see what was going on,which was NOT MUCH!!! (-: Come on guys,Don't hold back,everyone has there favorites.Don't be bashful.Lets have some fun here! Thanks, Rick. P.S. Everyone KNOWS Whirlpool/Kenmore are,and always were THE BEST!!
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Post# 31888-8/27/2003-22:51 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Sooo The best machine is????
MESSAGE: Do you want "best" or "favorite"? Best for me is Frigidaire, but favorite for me Philco...
-ph
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Post# 31889-8/27/2003-23:02 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: RE: Sooo The best machine is???? (Best or favorite??)
MESSAGE: Good idea Peter!
Lets do both! I Also have owned,and like Frigidaire.I would like to find another vintage one someday. They are so fun to watch! I will have to say then that my favorite vintage machine for fun to watch is Frigidaire(pre 1-18 era).Favorite to service,find parts for,and durability is Whirlpool(best make).I have been rough on Maytag tonight,but as I mentioned in my first post,the cabinet design is cute!
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Post# 31890-8/27/2003-23:04 ||| alr2903 (new orleans)
SUBJECT: RE: PHOTO OF REAR HINGED KENMORE (rear hinged kenmore)
MESSAGE: Bob my damn browser still says page not found. guess I will never see that rear hinged kenmore :-)
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Post# 31891-8/27/2003-23:10 ||| mulls (Johnson City,Tn)
SUBJECT: RE: Sooo The best machine is???? (best?)
MESSAGE: Probably have to agree with Peter-best all around is Frigidaire-maybe not best in every category but best overall.Lets look at it this way-WP?KEN washed well,were dependable,but spinning and rinsing were a joke-Maytags were dependable but were nothing more than competent-GEs good machines all around but beat hell out of the clothes and used too much water.Frigidaire cleaned great,spun great,rinsed well with overflows on both wash and rinse,and were reasonably dependable-best all around.
Tom
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Post# 31892-8/27/2003-23:20 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Sooo The best machine is????
MESSAGE: Kenmore has been my all time favorite, the rollover has been very good for their straight vane and Super-Roto-Swirl agitators, the cleaning power of the Penta-vane is overall the best at medium high to low, the Dual Action Agitator is tops handling extra large loads! I've never had the time to play with the Penta-Swirl to see if this design is equivalent to the Penta-Vane, so the jury is still out......
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Post# 31893-8/27/2003-23:40 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: LONELY CHILDREN & THEIR OPINIONS
MESSAGE: Hahahaha, oh my, now I DO have to laugh at you now little Bobby. You see, there is Kurt, and Jamie. Now can you say, Kurt and Jamie? Come on now, Kurt, Jamie, Kurt, Jamie.
Kurt is, and always has been 15. Jamie recently turned 13. Come on now, I thought an all powerful 40 year old could straighten out his facts, come on Bob, I expected more from you of all people. Or maybe your age is catching up, and you aren't all "there" Or maybe you were never all "there"
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Post# 31894-8/27/2003-23:42 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: The Not So Lonely Repairman
MESSAGE: Well said Mark, I always like a post that actually has some meaning, instead of some petty little childish message in it. I agree with what you think of Maytags.
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Post# 31895-8/27/2003-23:48 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Sooo The best machine is????
MESSAGE: My favorite is the Frigidaire, as many long-time members probably know. For so many reasons, there simply just is nothing else in the world like it. Fun to watch, wonderful designs, well-built and dependable, a quick cycle and energy efficient before energy efficient was ever in vogue (not sure on water consumption of the 1-18 but I know the solid tub ones used water at a very reasonable rate despite the two overflow wash/rinses).
It would be extremely difficult to pick any favorite Frigidaire model there are so many I like, and I like aspects of all the various mechanisms they used, and I like both types of agitators. They let the energized water do the work rather than dragging and thrashing the clothes about, which makes for gentle handling of fabrics.
All brands and types have their advantages and disadvantages, but I find Frigidaire to be best overall as someone mentioned; however I don't think I've met a vintage machine I didn't like, at least for some reason or another!
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Post# 31896-8/27/2003-23:56 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Sooo The best machine is????
MESSAGE: Why do I draw so much feuding on this site? I truly do not mean to. For anyone I have talked to in email, I try to be a very understanding person. On other sites I don't make people so mad. I know, some of my posts are slightly off topic, but if anyone has noticed, I have made many posts in the sandbox, plus I was rude in the one post, I didn't get my opinion across right that time. I read some posts that don't interest me, I MOVE ON. I don't flip out about their age, or their opinion (except that one post, that was kinda rude when I look back...) Guess what guys, learning is ongoing. True, most (nearly all) of you know oodles more than me about vintage washers, but does that make my opinion worth nothing? Of course not, you need opinions of the less knowledgable sometimes. And have you noticed, Bob has one post a week, maybe a sentence long, then he decides to criticize ME on my postings. Those couple months away from this site was good, now I want to post, but I want to post without making anyone mad. Can it be done? It needs some effort from me and Bob. It can be done with a little acceptance which I am totally willing to do. Hopefully in time, me and Bob can learn (yes learn at age 40) to just ignore each other's posts. I think it is blatently obvious I do not want to read Bob's post, and he doesn't want to read mine. So I don't know why it is so hard to ignore posts by "KurtDixon" IMO, I don't think he wants to ignore them, I think he wants to draw attention to himself as being supperior to me. The only way he is superior is in appliance knowledge, that's it. So if he really wants to paint himself as being supperior to me in appliance knowledge, then he can politley and quietly correct some mistakes I make (I make many) Because this system is not working out for anyone right now.
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Post# 31897-8/27/2003-23:58 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Sooo The best machine is????
MESSAGE: My favorite I think is the Philco Automagic design, running a close second to ABC/Kelvy concentric/orbital agitation. I know the Automagic isn't known for especially good turnover, but it's different and fascinating to me.
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Post# 31898-8/28/2003-00:23 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: chat
MESSAGE: For those who have been dropping in the chat room occasionally, it has been down because the ISP readdressed their network and overlooked editing the chat config files. I believe it's working again now.
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Post# 31899-8/28/2003-00:42 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Congratulations Peter!
MESSAGE: Peter won the ebay auction for the (NEW!) ABC-O-Matic washer tonight - congrats Peter and enjoy!!
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Post# 31900-8/28/2003-01:11 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: Re: Best and Favorite Washer's and Dryer's:
MESSAGE: Hey! Club Member's and Friend's, I wanted to add my info about my Favorite and Best owned either by myself or my Parent's while growing up.
My Parent's 1st Automatic Washer was a Mid to Late 40s "Bolt-Down" Bendix, 2nd was a 1955 Kenmore {with rear opening lid}, 3rd was a 1959 Hotpoint, 4th was a 1966 Frigidaire Custom Deluxe, 5th was a 1968 Lady-K, 7th was a 1985 Lady-K Mechanical Control. Their 1st Dryer was a 1950 Westinghouse Slanted-Front w/o Window, 2nd was a 1962 Hotpoint, 3rd was a 1968 Lady-K {match to washer} 4th was a 1985 Lady-K Mechanical Control {matched to washer}.
My 1st Washer worthwhile was a 1982 Lady-K Electronic Touch Control, 2nd was a Early-90s Gibson {stack}, 3rd was a 1992 {TOL} Amana Mechanical Control, 4th was my 1997 Neptune "3000" and the 1st Dryer was a 1982 Lady-K ELectric Electronic Touch Control {match to washer} 2nd was a Early-90s White Westinghouse Gas {stack}, 3rd was a 1992 Amana Mechanical Gas {matched washer}{both had fluorescent lights}, 4th is my 1997 Neptune Gas "3000" {matched to washer}.
Of all the Washer's and Dryer's that we've owned, I've got the "Best" being the Lady-K's {electronic and mechanical} and the 1966 Frigidaire Custom Deluxe. My "Favorite's" are the Amana's, Philco Washer "Top-Load" Mid to Late-60s "TOL" {wish I had one}, Lady-K's, Kelvinator {wish I had a mid/late 60s} the "Bolt-Down" Bendix {parent's owned}, and the Gibson Washer
W-Westinghouse Gas Dryer Stacked Set.
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Post# 31901-8/28/2003-01:20 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GE spin speed? (G-Force)
MESSAGE: Exactly, a larger tub can spin slower and effect the same results as a smaller tub spinning faster. This is why the portable washers spin at 800+ RPM and give the same extraction results as their full-size cousins.
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Post# 31902-8/28/2003-01:27 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: GE spin speed? (G-Force)
MESSAGE: I see, so really, (off topic for just a moment) a standard capacity direct drive doesn't remove water good at all (since the basket is SO narrow) I like wider baskets much better, they are easier to get the clothes out and they are easier on clothes (clothes come down the side of the agitator, get flexed and come up the side of the tub.) but with a narrow tub, the clothes don't roll over very well since clothes near the agitator (trying to move down) are hung up on ones trying to move up. I guess that is why some people here have had bad experiences with direct drives, they just agitate and agitate the same clothes since there isn't much rollover unless on heavy duty, and in that case the clothes are forced down and up instead of moving with the water currents. Now I get it, thanks:-)
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Post# 31903-8/28/2003-01:39 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Congratulations Peter!
MESSAGE: OMG! How fabulous!
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Post# 31904-8/28/2003-01:42 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: GE spin speed? (G-Force calculator)
MESSAGE: Here's the link to the G-force calculator. Notice that you have to fill out the radius (1/2 diameter) in millimeters. 1 inch = 25.4 millimeter.
LINK: http://www.jouaninc.com/gforce.htm
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Post# 31905-8/28/2003-02:03 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Congratulations Peter!
MESSAGE: Congratulations Peter! Another classic saved!
Louis
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Post# 31906-8/28/2003-02:13 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Sooo The best machine is????
MESSAGE: For me the best machine is and has always been a Miele. But my favorite machine changes from day to day. I love some European classics like AEG, Hoover, Bosch and some others, but also a lot of the American machines are true beauties. Frigidaire is high on that list, but also Speed Queen and the slanted Westinghouse machines. And then there are......
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Post# 31907-8/28/2003-05:24 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: The Not So Lonely Repairman
MESSAGE: I would not argue that Maytags were well built machines especially when compared to the stuff that is built today. However the older GE's were also very well built and washed a whole lot better. An old Consumer Reports article once said something like "the Maytags earned the top rating not because they did anything particularly well (like wash or spin), but because they didn't have some of the deficiencies that other machines had".
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Post# 31908-8/28/2003-05:29 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: GE activators-straight vane vs spiral fins
MESSAGE: And again remember that straight vanes do not necessarily mean rougher treatment anymore than curved vanes and "rollover" mean good washing. The old Norge Timelines, for example had straight vanes and a long slow agitation stroke that always earned them the highest washing ratings, and they were not tough on the clothes at all. In fact older Kenmore washers with the "Roto Swirl" agitator generally never fared well in the washing score department - mainly because the vanes were really at the bottom of the agitator. So on a light load, movement was no problem. ON a full load however, it took a while for the clothes to roll anywhere....
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Post# 31909-8/28/2003-05:49 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Sooo The best machine is????
MESSAGE: But Glenn, the Philco Automagic design did earn high scores for washing ability in the ratings - along with Frigidaire and Norge. So it was effective. The problem was that you really couldn't overload it or nothing would move well. But that is true of any machine....
Now for my favorites. I do think Frigidaire was best because of the overall quality. It also did everything quite well - wash, rinse, spin and did it with lots of drama and noise.
However, the older GE's were also fine machines with their own drama and of course the filter flo washing. Spin speed wasn't as good as Frigidaire so they drop to second place for me.
And finally, the Norge Timeline and Philco Automagic/Miss America were also faves. The Norge was a solidly built, heavy machine and washed beautifully - water extraction was not bad either. And the Philco was the different and glamorous machine. But neither machine's reliability could even come close to the reliability of the Frigidaire or the GE.
If I had to pick one to have though, I would pick the Norge. That was the machine that started my fascination in the first place and is the sentimental favorite......
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Post# 31910-8/28/2003-06:50 ||| Activator (Tulsa, OK)
SUBJECT: agitator = vortex
MESSAGE: I noticed something while viewing the convention piece in the video section (an outstanding experience, BTW). I see a marked resemblance between a center-post agitator machine in action and a tornado funnel.
The only thing that makes this "on topic" is that it was a vintage Kenmore that gave me that impression.
Am I the only "Twister Freak" in this group by chance?
Thanks for letting me ask that. I think I'll shop around for a support group now...
Let peace be,
Mark
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Post# 31911-8/28/2003-08:55 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: LONELY CHILDREN & THEIR OPINIONS
MESSAGE: Taunting is never appropriate (or mature)...
-ph
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Post# 31912-8/28/2003-09:08 ||| mulls (Johnson City,Tn)
SUBJECT: RE: LONELY CHILDREN & THEIR OPINIONS
MESSAGE: Peter-well said,and here are a few thoughts for everyone.This is a great group of people we have here.Again,I am relatively new,and as such mostly keep quiet,but I think all of us should be more grateful for this club we have.Diversity?we got it!straight and gay,young and old,different shades of color(I assume)rich and poor.Someone need help with a repair?never saw a lack of help from others.Questions about old appliances?I have never asked one that wasnt answered.Maybe its because I am relatively new,but I much appreciate this site-it is one of the highlites of my day.Count to 10 before you fire at someone.Appreciate what we have.
Tom
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Post# 31913-8/28/2003-09:30 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Congratulations Peter!
MESSAGE: Thanks! I thought for sure that someone else would win.
Now, someone needs to win the baby in the link below...
-ph
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2342607511&category=20714
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Post# 31914-8/28/2003-09:39 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: agitator = vortex
MESSAGE: Oh no!!! One of my dreams is to go to Oklahoma on a Tornado Chasers vacation. I'll take a tornado over an earthquake or hurricane any day!
Basically, all agitator washers work on pressure principles. A fan works not so much by pushing the air as creating a vacuum behind the blades that pulls the air forward. When the agitator moves in one direction, a vacuum occurs and sucks water and clothes into it. Slopes and curved vanes enhance this movement. Flappers and pulsators create this as they lift and fall in relation to the tub base.
-ph
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Post# 31915-8/28/2003-09:47 ||| rayjay (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Sooo The best machine is????
MESSAGE: Thanks for agreeing with me on the Maytags. I wedged a clothespin between the lid and switch and noticed how poor the turnover was. So that is why I ordered and replaced the agitator with the load sensor one. The turnover is better. I had a Whirlpool 25 years ago, and agree it did wash well. However after using a front loader, there was a noticeable difference. Growing up my parents had 2 Frigidaire Jet Action Washers in the 70's and early 80's. These machines were great at washing and spinning. However the first Jet Action with Rapid Dry 1000 was better at spinning.
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Post# 31916-8/28/2003-10:09 ||| Partscounterman (ST PAUL, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: Sooo The best machine is???? (In my humble opinion....)
MESSAGE: My favorite machines are any of the old Lady Kenmore machines that had a detergent dispenser that allowed the user to pre-soak or pre-wash, then wash again with a fresh fill. The old belt drive standard capacity machines really seemed to be the one of the more powerful machines.
My last washer was a newer Kenmore with this feature. It used vast quantities of water to double-wash and double-rinse. I do find the neutral drain of these machines to be boring. This washer produced sparkling whites.
I was raised in a Maytag home and thought that was the best until I worked at the parts house and found out that most of the free world has wp/km.
As a responsible citizen of the planet, I realize that it is a bit much to use 80 gallons of water to wash a load of clothes, so my next washer will be some high efficiency thing. I am staying with a friend right now that has a big-name front loader (that I sold to her) and I am dissappointed with the way my whites turn out. We have soft water aaand I use the fancy detergent and oxygen bleach and I think the whites have a slight grey cast. I do love it for delicates and bright things and I do like the high speed spin at the end.
An old frigidaire is always a thing of beauty too.
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Post# 31917-8/28/2003-11:51 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Congratulations Peter!
MESSAGE: Congrats Peter. Todd, I'm sorry you didn't win tho.
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Post# 31918-8/28/2003-12:12 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Sooo The best machine is???? (and favorite)
MESSAGE: Personally, I feel that a Frigidaire from 1957 or 1958 is the best along with a Rollermatic Frigidaire from 1965 on with a 1010 rpm spin speed until the 1/18s came out. Gentle washers that did a great job generally. I also liked the flat front westys as well as an LK combo w/d. And I love Bendix washers with the magic heater.
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Post# 31919-8/28/2003-13:14 ||| Manor_Avenue (Fresno, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Sooo The best machine is???? (My favorite is...)
MESSAGE: I'll cheat and name a favorite in each category: My favorite front-loader would be the 1953 Westinghouse. Just like the design and that was what we had at home at the time I was first aware of machines, period! My favorite top-loader would be the 1957 G.E. Filter-Flo; loved that coral orange timer dial; thought the machine itself was just "space age," and it brings back happy memories of my maternal grandparents' kitchen in their flat in San Francisco; also, the way I used to watch and hold my breath hoping that the wash water wouldn't go up and over the side of the sink during the draining cycle. Can also recall, as a dumb young'un, wondering how it was that the water could keep entering the tub in a big water fall and yet the machine never would overflow! Hey, what'd I know about a recirculating pump at that age?! Can also recall jumping the first time I saw Nana put the bluing into the rinse water and wondering why we didn't all end up with blue instead of white items.
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Post# 31920-8/28/2003-13:17 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Sooo The best machine is???? (and favorite)
MESSAGE: Most of the people here know what brand and model of machine I like. The Kenmore 800. THE washer in my opinion, of course :-) . It has all the features of the Lady K except for the pre-programmed buttons. Had the Roto Swirl agitator which really pulled the clothes under on the ummm.. clockwise stroke? I forgot. Anyway, it's my favorite. As far as cleanability, darn right it cleaned. Extraction, well... let's not talk about that. 550rpm isn't very fast :-( .
I think you gotta have vigorous but gentle agitation. clothes have to roll over and get scrubbed some kind of way by the agitator or other clothes as it goes under. Getting clothes clean is more important, I think, than how fast it can spin. If the machine can't clean but goes 100mph then you still have dirty clothes.
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Post# 31921-8/28/2003-15:31 ||| dalangdon (Seattle, WA)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire Flair "Meat-Tender" unit
MESSAGE: Hey everybody,
My flair's "meat-tender" unit has had a breadown of sorts. The temp indicator has become wildly inaccurate, and the remarkably obnoxious buzzer only works if you jiggle the knob (and then it won't shut up) Strangely enough, the trouble started when I got the clock repaired, even though they are not related as far as I can tell.
I'm pretty sure that this is one of those things that can't be replaced, but it seems like it's a pretty simple mechansim - basically a thermometer that trips a buzzer when it reaches a certain temperature, plus a switch to shut the buzzer off. Does anybody know of a way to jury-rig this?
The model, by the way, is the RCIB-645-2
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Post# 31922-8/28/2003-15:32 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: ABC-O-MATIC !!!
MESSAGE: CONGRATULATIONS PETER! CAN'T WAIT FOR YOU TO GET IT, HOOK IT UP, LOAD IT UP, AND WASH YOUR FIRST LOAD OF CLOTHES!!! I WANT ALL THE DETAILS!!! (and I know you're better at the computer than most, so how about a video too???) MARK
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Post# 31923-8/28/2003-17:30 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: Sooo The best machine is???? (Well, you know what my favorite machine is....)
MESSAGE: And my all time favorite vintage machine is the 1966-67 Lady Kenmore. That one is the first model with the keyboard console that has 14 push buttons (two rows of 7) with the water level control at the beginning of the console and a pin stop cycle timer system at the other end of the console. That is also the one that had the detergent dispenser at right end of the machine next to a left opening lid. It also had the "all so famous" Roto-Flex skirtless agitator. You know..... the one that supposed to turn the clothes over many times and "spank" them until they are clean. Talking about turnover, when you opened the lid and watched a vintage LK in action, you know there was plenty of action going on inside of the white porcelain tub. It just quietly hummed along about its business quietly. I also liked the way the console would light the room up when the room was dark. You know for sure the machine was in operation when the console light is on (displaying all of the buttons and controls in the process). This design has later translated over to the famous LKs with the flip down cover and the Vari-Flex agitator. In my opinion, it is still one of most elegant machines ever made.
My next favorite would have to be the 1965-70 Roller-Matic Custom Imperial Frigidaires with the 1010 RPM Rapidry Spin. If you think that your clothes have gotten clean using the back and forth agitation method in a Kenmore, then you haven't seen anything until you have washed clothes in vintage Frigidaire. There is much more rollover action to be seen in a Frigidaire. The "Jet Cone" agitator in a Frigidaire moves up and down so rapidly, it was so mind boggling. The clothes would rollover at a much faster rate than I have ever seen them being washed at any time in a Kenmore. I also liked the way a Frigidaire sounded when it was agitating. It would sound like the combination of a wrist watch in combination with the water moving and rolling over in a vigorous motion. And a Frigidaire sounded as fast as advertised during the spin. I think when it comes to see what wash day drama is all about, then nothing beats a vintage Frigidaire.
--Charles--
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Post# 31924-8/28/2003-18:24 ||| Partscounterman (ST PAUL, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: Sooo The best machine is???? (Well, you know what my favorite machine is....)
MESSAGE: Its sad but we have one of those lovely old pushbutton kenmores in the graveyard behind the shop. It may be the next model year 'cuz it has the gold Vari-flex agitator. The cabinet is avacado. Its really hashed over or I'd have our basement guy rebuild it. Looks like it gave its all....
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Post# 31925-8/28/2003-18:30 ||| christfr (st louis mo)
SUBJECT: RE: Congratulations Peter! (thanks)
MESSAGE: hey peter thanks for the try to help my girl get noticed but she had found a home out west an old friend on mine got a wild hair and i think has been bitten by the bug so to speak so she will travel west this fall and miss out on the mid west winter hopefully living a long life as a true lady should
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Post# 31926-8/28/2003-18:37 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: LONELY CHILDREN & THEIR OPINIONS
MESSAGE: Ya I am wrong, of course I am...
But I just proved Bob is not mad at ME, he is mad at my age. He got me and Jamie confused (Jamie hasn't posted for a long time.) Bob doesn't know who he is mad at and he is SO predictable. He has to be the easiest person to get mad ever, I know EXACTLY how to control his anger. But did I really say anything about or to him the first time to make him mad? No, my angry, ranting posts are always a RESULT of Bob's posts, Bob doesn't post, I don't get into a big rant about him. Quite easy to resolve, you are talking to the wrong person about this issue. Obviously I play a part (I am not THAT stupid) but I am also 1/3 Bob's age, apparently age is so important, why can't he control his rage at age 40?
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Post# 31927-8/28/2003-19:06 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: LONELY CHILDREN & THEIR OPINIONS
MESSAGE: My sentiments exactly, Peter. Well said..
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Post# 31928-8/28/2003-19:09 ||| Angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Congratulations Peter!
MESSAGE: And congrats on the machine Peter... I know it will have a good home. But what, I wonder, is the machine immediately to the left of the washer in the link to the 1962 Frigidaire????
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Post# 31929-8/28/2003-19:19 ||| Angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: LONELY CHILDREN & THEIR OPINIONS
MESSAGE: OK Kurt, enough already. This is an old, tiresome topic at best. The next time the temptation strikes to explain your position on this again I urge you to remember some very good advice I received long ago - - "what Peter says about Paul tells more about Peter than it does about Paul". So let it go already and do us all a favor.......
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Post# 31930-8/28/2003-20:54 ||| Partscounterman (ST PAUL, MN)
SUBJECT: Cleanability and the general consumer public
MESSAGE: The lengendary popularity of the maytag with its somewhat lackluster agitation shows that most folks are happy with a machine they don't have to service or replace-cleaning seems to be secondary. Of course the power-fin helical drive standard capacity chugged clothes around pretty good...orbital tranny? yawn
Another case in point of this is Kitchenaid dishwashers. I've never seen one that you can put really dirty dishes into. Every kitchenaid owner I ever talked to or sold to always always always prerinses the dishes and they can't be talked out of it(I swear-every last one of 'em). You must to get clean dishes from a Kitchenaid-the old ones anyway.
But those KA owners are loyal. They pour tons o' money on parts
long after most other people have given up. For these machines that have to be nursed through the washing process. They used to have only one spray arm in the bottom and had to be oh-so-carefully loaded. They never seemed to die and some how every one overlooked the cleaning inadequacies.
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Post# 31931-8/28/2003-20:55 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: LONELY CHILDREN & THEIR OPINIONS
MESSAGE: How am I in the wrong? I can't stand it, Bob's behavior goes unnoticed while I get all the punishment. I want that to change and THAT is why I am talking and talking and talking about an old, stupid subject. It is because it was never resolved, Bob just continues to be a whiny, arrogant pri*k and I am tired of it. Fix the problem already and we can get back to fun topics.
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Post# 31932-8/28/2003-21:01 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Congratulations Peter! (Congratulations Peter!)
MESSAGE: Peter this is a real congrats
Not only is this a great find but it is in new condition
wow
Best of Luck
Peter
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Post# 31933-8/28/2003-21:07 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Cleanability and the general consumer public
MESSAGE: Hmmm. Well, I can't say that's been the case in my experience with KA. We had a 1975 Imperial that I loaded up to the max, working around the obvious restriction of what can go in the bottom rack (but even pushing that to the limit), and there was never any particular problem with cleaning. Oh, sure, once in a while a pot or casserole may have been left with a bit of crusties, as can happen with any machine, but a quick swipe in the sink fixed that. Prerinse? Pshaw! Rinse/hold sometimes, but never prerinsing before loading.
Some folks around here know how I load a dishwasher. ;-)
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Post# 31934-8/28/2003-21:13 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: LONELY CHILDREN & THEIR OPINIONS
MESSAGE: Better watch out for the Applianceville PD.
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Post# 31935-8/28/2003-22:26 ||| minijim (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: Thor washer/dryer combo
MESSAGE: Please don't shoot me down. I don't know how to get into the sandbox! Does anyone have any information on the new Thor washer/dryer combo. I have very limited space and need a new machine.
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Post# 31936-8/28/2003-22:28 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: LONELY CHILDREN & THEIR OPINIONS
MESSAGE: Again, your telling me that?! Look back, what exactly have I done wrong other than talk about a very off topic subject? And in the rules it says nothing about getting the boot if the subject drifts. I have done at MOST what Bob has done, he has done at least the exact same thing I have done (maybe more) Where are Bob's warnings?
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Post# 31937-8/28/2003-22:40 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Thor washer/dryer combo (sandbox)
MESSAGE: Exit Applianceville and then come back in. On the main Applianceville screen, with the instructions at the bottom (before you view any posts), you will find a link to it. It is a Yahoo! group, so you need to sign up for membership.
-ph
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Post# 31938-8/28/2003-22:42 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Congratulations Peter! (thanks)
MESSAGE: That it is going to a good home is satisfying enough, but going to the home of a friend is great indeed!
-ph
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Post# 31939-8/28/2003-22:50 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Thor washer/dryer combo (sandbox)
MESSAGE: Or you can also hold ctrl and press "refresh" on your browser at the same time, that loads a new page of "applianceville"
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Post# 31940-8/28/2003-22:50 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Congratulations Peter! (Congratulations Peter)
MESSAGE: Congratulations from me as well Peter. I bet you are looking forward to its arrival. Keep us posted.
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Post# 31941-8/28/2003-22:51 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: LONELY CHILDREN & THEIR OPINIONS
MESSAGE: Bob is not mad at your age, he is mad at your immaturity. And if you know how to control HIS anger and you find him so predictable, then you should know how to control YOUR postings so as not to provoke an angry response and get Applianceville all riled up. You don't know Bob, you don't know if he has a good reason to be angry, and if you see how other club members handle certain outbreaks by certain individuals, you'd be wise to follow the example.
-ph
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Post# 31942-8/28/2003-23:11 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: LONELY CHILDREN & THEIR OPINIONS
MESSAGE: What exactly you have done wrong is respond. What exactly you have done wrong is to continue to post on it (six times) instead of dropping it. What you have done is failed to listen to those of us who have been around here for a while. Subject drift is understandable, and it takes a while to remember to take these subjects to the Sandbox. Bob has a maturity that age and experience brings, contrary to your opinion of him. He is a valuable asset to Applianceville. We know how to respond to him when posts like that appear. Being defensive is understandable, but you need to learn to pick your battles.
A wise man once said: It is better to remain quiet and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
-ph
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Post# 31943-8/28/2003-23:24 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: LONELY CHILDREN & THEIR OPINIONS
MESSAGE: I can't believe what you are saying, at least my parents taught me not to put up with bullshit like Bob puts out. Isn't it totally obvious Bob WANTS this to happen, why would he make a post like that? Did I make a post "Whiny, arrogant 40 year old's worthless views and opinions." He will have to stop this bullshit. I did not pick a battle with him at all, he gets mad at everything I say because of my age. Didn't you just see? He got mad AT THE WRONG person, he doesn't even remember who he is mad at, all he knows is that there is a 13 year old and a 15 year old and it is his job to piss them off and walk all over them. He's not going to walk all over me. He gets mad at my maturity level? Funny since his is the same or worse (since he STARTS all this crap.) What kind of an adult picks a fight with a 15 year old? Honestly, someone with room tempurature IQ and who has serious problems. Just go in my shoes for a minute, you are saying you would let a 40 year old snivelling little whiner put you down? If so, that is just weak, no self confidence, no self esteem. Sorry if I have to stand up for myself, it is too bad Bob doesn't use email, we could have kept all this crap off of here. Just EMAIL me next time, geez. I am getting tired of this subject, but I won't let it go. I have to discuss it somewhere, this is the only place so far since no one emails me (well ONE person did.)
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Post# 31944-8/28/2003-23:25 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: LONELY CHILDREN & THEIR OPINIONS
MESSAGE: Not gonna drop it, I am not a person to just fold when someone makes me feel less. Email could work a lot better but...
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Post# 31945-8/28/2003-23:37 ||| minijim (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Thor washer/dryer combo (sandbox)
MESSAGE: I am lost trying to sign up for yahoo - All I seem to get is verification and ID page - it keeps sending me verification e-mails which takes me back to the start. K.I.S.S
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Post# 31946-8/28/2003-23:52 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: LONELY CHILDREN & THEIR OPINIONS (ahhh, Grasshoppah...)
MESSAGE: The mouth opens and removes all doubt! The lesson falls on deaf ears. Can they not hear over all the yelling? Please check your email!
-ph
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Post# 31947-8/28/2003-23:54 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Thor washer/dryer combo (sandbox)
MESSAGE: Jim,
I think sometimes it takes 24 hours for the system to recognize you. What exactly do the emails say? We've all been thru Yahoo's quirkiness. We'll get you in...
-ph
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Post# 31948-8/29/2003-00:02 ||| tolivac (greenville nc)
SUBJECT: RE: Sooo The best machine is???? (whirlpool,lady kenmore machines)
MESSAGE: ISo that why everything stops when you open the Maytags lid-I guess more than safety. I had a Maytag machine in about 1993 or so. Would defeat that lid interlock to see-- The rollover action was almost non existent. also the clothes would just stay in one place while it was agitating.
In my present Whilpool imperial 90 machine-things are much different. the super surgilator agitator would rollover clothes much more. Also the clothes would move around the tub besides diving up and down. I have a what looks like a generic whilpool(probably built in the '80's) that has a dual surgilator agitator. Action not as vigorous as the imperial. I have a dual action agitator thatr I can put into the whirlpool. Action with the dual agitator less vigorous.
Oh-another thing about the maytag-the lower vanes on the agitator had slots under the blades-they did not go all the way to the base of the agitator. Sometimes this would cut or tear clothes. Did any of you have this problem with Maytags?
I removed the agitator and sanded and filed the edges. The lower edges of these vanes were SHARP!! that made it better.
I know the drain before spin is boring in the kenmore-whilpool machines-however I would think it is so much easier on the drives when going into spin. It is much easier to spin the basket when the outer wash tank has been drained. Saves motors and belts(particulary motor start caps)
As a young
child I remember the Norge with its almost comical Burp up splashing into the lint dish type filter pan that you put on t
op of the agitator before starting the washer.. Would like to have one.
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Post# 31949-8/29/2003-00:05 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Sooo The best machine is???? (Well, you know what my favorite machine is....)
MESSAGE: If you choose not to fix this Lady, would you sell me the agitator?
Larry
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Post# 31950-8/29/2003-00:11 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Sooo The best machine is???? (whirlpool,lady kenmore machines)
MESSAGE: I know what you mean about the Norge, but I've blew my chance of owning one with the Extra Large capacity with the Fedders emblem on the control panel!!! :-((
Where was may friends when I needed them to help me snatch this one?
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Post# 31951-8/29/2003-01:52 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Best and Favorite Washer's and Dryer's: (Re: Favorite and Best Washer's and Dryer's extra Info: )
MESSAGE: Hey! Club Friend's, I can't believe that I could forget my absolute other Favorite/Best Machine's. They are my Avocado 1965 Lady-K Combo and my White 1967 "MOL" Kenmore Combo's that I have, even though they haven't been operating for some time, but they will be operating hopefully sometime again soon. I just need as I have mentioned bafore to get my Garage cleaned out, so I can bring them here from my Storage Sheds, check them out to make sure they are in operable shape and to check out their Hoses and Belt's.
Peace, Steve
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Post# 31952-8/29/2003-06:02 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: LONELY CHILDREN & THEIR OPINIONS
MESSAGE: OK, I have had enough of your long, whining posts on this topic. You continue to INSIST that we ALL need to be treated to your CONTINUED thoughts on a topic that is old, tired and worn out. So here are my final thoughts on this for you. Perhaps you should listen for a change.
- First of all the occasional off topic drift is understandable and we have all done it. Since this topic has now become your full time job, and this is NOT the first time, it belongs in the sandbox or personal email and NOT HERE. For some reason you feel it is more important to keep getting in our faces about this. Children do this, not adults.\
- So your parents taught you never to back down and take bullshit from anyone? Good, no one should. Did they also teach you when to take a step back, assess the situation and think that if you are getting a ton of advice that is contrary to what you are doing that PERHAPS it might be a good idea to LISTEN?? Or did they teach you that throwing tantrums publicly is a good way to get attention? Apparently they forgot to teach you that sometimes maturity and good sense mean knowing when to shut up - - at least publicly anyway.
- You have told us to "fix the problem and get back to appliances". So have you bothered to think about this - - "what part of the problem are YOU??" Or is it easier for you to just continue to do the equivalent of throwing public tantrums on this website?
- Your continued monologue on this topic makes me wonder just who you are trying to convince that you are right - us or yourself.
- If your point was to show us you are right by beating us over the head with your ranting, you have failed. If you were trying to convince us that Bob is a jerk, well, sorry that didn't work either. However, if your goal was to tire us all out, bore us to tears, annoy the hell out of us with this, and disrespect the requests of most of Applianceville who asked you to AT LEAST move this to a more appropriate place you have certainly succeded. So now that you have accomplished THAT useless goal, WHATS YOUR NEXT MOVE??
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Post# 31953-8/29/2003-06:04 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Sooo The best machine is???? (whirlpool,lady kenmore machines)
MESSAGE: Larry - I am not that far - if I had known you needed help I would have come to Brooklyn - after all, it isn't like I have a job or anything....... :)
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Post# 31954-8/29/2003-08:13 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Farberware (owner's manual.)
MESSAGE: Have you written/called Salton? (they own Farberware now)
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Post# 31955-8/29/2003-08:42 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Cleanability and the general consumer public (KA one spray arm in btm)
MESSAGE: yea, all you can put in the bottom rack is plates, don't block that spray from making it "upstairs" .... but I do love the old Kitchen Aid dw's too, especially the cast iron spray arm earlier types ........... my folks had one from the late fifties and it worked great, for over thirty years in fact, NEVER a problem, except for a minor leak which left a puddle underneath the DW about four-five inches diameter after every cycle, mom just wiped it up and that was it .......
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Post# 31956-8/29/2003-08:49 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Sooo The best machine is???? (best? Other brands)
MESSAGE: Haven't seen any opinions on Norge/Wards, Kelvinator, Philco, or top loading Westinghouse in all these opinions about turnover, spin speed, dependability. Anybody have any regarding those brands?
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Post# 31957-8/29/2003-09:09 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Sooo The best machine is???? (Well, you know what my favorite machine is....)
MESSAGE: My favorite is any brand of combo washer-dryer. The idea of a machine that you put dirty clothes in and they come out clean and dry in one machine is fascinating. And idea of all the mechanism required to accomplish this, especially in the gas versions, is mind-boggling. Glad to see that they're staging a comeback, along with regular FL washers. By the way, are any of this new generation of combo washer-dryers available in gas versions like the vintage ones were?
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Post# 31958-8/29/2003-09:17 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: LONELY CHILDREN & THEIR OPINIONS (being wrong)
MESSAGE: I gotta agree with you Kurt, Bob started it this time (& the last time, too) You're not wrong, but just let it go and hopefully it'll be the end of it, or I'M going to have something to say, too.
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Post# 31959-8/29/2003-09:23 ||| steved (Albany, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: LONELY CHILDREN & THEIR OPINIONS (being wrong)
MESSAGE: sigh.............
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Post# 31960-8/29/2003-09:26 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Cleanability and the general consumer public (pre-rinsing)
MESSAGE: I almost wish they hadn't invented dishwashers until they solved the pre-rinsing problem because now it's virtually IMPOSSIBLE to get people not to pre-rinse. It's like it's ingrained or something. I still catch my roommates doing it. And I've had big arguments with one of them because he would always rinse off dishes, put them in the countertop dish rack, then put them back into circulation if he thought they weren't "dirty" enough (toast crumbs, etc.) to which I would tell him "if water had to touch it, it might as well have been the water in the dishwasher, those little "rinses" add up. To topo it off, he would often not do a good job of "rinsing" and I'd have to inspect dishes in the cupboard and drain rack and cycle them through the dishwasher because he'd missed some crud. Very frustrating.
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Post# 31961-8/29/2003-09:56 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Cleanability and the general consumer public (KA washing)
MESSAGE: So when did KA go to an upper spray arm? That's the only thing that really solves the how-to-load-the-bottom-rack problem. The "telescoping shower tower" helps, but it still can be a pain to have to leave space for it to pop up. With a full upper wash arm, one can lay large bowls, frying pans, and pots on top of dishes in the lower rack, including where the "tower" would be on some dishwashers, and know that the upper rack cleaning won't be affected.
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Post# 31962-8/29/2003-10:29 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Cleanability and the general consumer public (KA DW)
MESSAGE: Well I have to agree on this one. Every KA owner I've ever known, even a KDI22, rinses every dish off before puttig them in. Drives me crazy. I've had a discussion with gansky1 about his KDS18. He and I let dishes sit for a day or two ormore. He reports that "back then" dishwashers wre really designed such that they were supposed to be run after every meal. After installing his KDS18 he had a ravioli dinner party. He noticed stuff didn't come out as clean as with his ASKO. (using the normal wash cycle). He now uses Soak & Scrub habitually for improved washing but still leave a bit to be desired at times. At least with S&S, the sitting period has the heater keep heating the water which helps in cleaning. And DADoES, you HAVE mentioned to me that with your old KDS21 or KDS22 that you have been known to stop the machine toward the end of the main wash cycle to make sure something questionable needs attention or not. It's extremely RARE that I EVER do this with my GSD1200 Potscrubber. Even Gansky has said that the washing would improve with the main awsh phase being increased from 10 minutes to 15 minutes on the "Hobart" style KAs, including DADoES' KDS21 or KDS22. These are a few of the reasons why I could never endorse KA although they held a ton of dishes.
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Post# 31963-8/29/2003-10:35 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Cleanability and the general consumer public (KA washing)
MESSAGE: We always had a KitchenAid in the kitchen. The only cleanability problem that I remember is that tall glasses in the far corners in the upper rack never came clean. Coffee cups however did. All you had to do was remember that no tall glasses in the corners. We had one of the first Superba machines with the upper spray arm. Never had it seviced and it still runs in my mother's kitchen today. (35 or 40 some years?) When I built my home in 87, I installed two KitchenAid Superba machines and have replaced both motors and seals after 7 years. These machines were made by Whirlpool instead of the Hobart. Obviously the dependability isn't there. Cleanability is still excelent though. I really don't know of a dishwasher that washes any better. I am at present, restoring my Grandmother's home in Roanoke Virginia and am putting in the new Dacor 30" machine. I'll let you guys know how that turns out in the sandbox! Have a great day! Mark
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Post# 31964-8/29/2003-10:41 ||| Partscounterman (ST PAUL, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: Cleanability and the general consumer public (KA washing-upper spray arm)
MESSAGE: I believe the upper spray arm was added on the KD-18 series @ 77 or 78.
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Post# 31965-8/29/2003-10:58 ||| Partscounterman (ST PAUL, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: Cleanability and the general consumer public (KA DW-prerinsing and longevity)
MESSAGE: It dawned on me late last night that this is why they last so darn long. Nobody's putting a bunch of food garbage into the dishwasher. They also had pretty big motors on the old KA. The motor on the newer dishwashers looks like an old sewing machine motor.
I alway thought that the GE with the power tower did a pretty good job. They seemed to always be heating the water too, so the results were always pretty steamy...
I used to have a maytag wc401 that wasn't bad but the wash cycle was too short
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Post# 31966-8/29/2003-12:03 ||| cycla-fabric (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Cleanability and the general consumer public (KA DW-prerinsing and longevity)
MESSAGE: I will admit that the vintage Kitchenaids are well built machines. But I grew up with a Hotpoint and then starting in 1966 we had Whirlpool dishwashers. The Whirlpools always had two spray arms. I remember my mom would rinse the dishes off at first too, I guess habit from the Hotpoint. But she soon stopped that once she saw how well the dishes came out of the Whirlpool. I don't rinse dishes either, but I agree with the rest of you guys, that most people do rinse, I guess they feel they need to do something.
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Post# 31967-8/29/2003-12:53 ||| Activator (Tulsa, OK)
SUBJECT: RE: LONELY CHILDREN & THEIR OPINIONS (being wrong)
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Post# 31968-8/29/2003-13:40 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: POD
MESSAGE: Ohh, kewl! I had forgotten about the parts offerings in the Sears catalogs. I always wanted an agitator, but the parents wouldn't order one.
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Post# 31969-8/29/2003-13:51 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Cleanability and the general consumer public (KA DW)
MESSAGE: Every KA owner I've ever known, even a KDI22, rinses every dish off before puttig them in.
But you know me, and I don't prerinse.
And DADoES, you HAVE mentioned to me that with your old KDS21 or KDS22 that you have been known to stop the machine toward the end of the main wash cycle to make sure something questionable needs attention or not.
That is true. However, I do/did that only with items that would have needed a good deal of scrubbing if handwashed. Let the machine do most of the work, get the crusties softened up. Then a couple swipes of a dishrag or scrubber pad (or even a finger) while the item is already hot and wet, and pop it back in for the rest of the wash and rinsing.
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Post# 31970-8/29/2003-13:59 ||| Partscounterman (ST PAUL, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Always wanted an agitator..)
MESSAGE: Yeah, me too. I thought that with an agitator, you could build a really great machine around it. I knew with the right parts and my grampa helping me....
By the way, did anyone notice the disclaimer that says you can't put a Roto-swirl into a machine that had straight vanes because the tubs are different. Does any one know if this is true or were they just trying to keep budget model consumers from upgrading their machines?
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Post# 31971-8/29/2003-14:38 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Cleanability and the general consumer public (KA DW wash times)
MESSAGE: Anybody ever noticed what the average wash times on the "Normal" cycle are for vintage and newer machines? My '78 Kenmore's default for the Normal wash is 20 minutes, decreaseable to 10 or increaseable to 30. Default is 30 minutes on Pots & Pans. The only problem I've noted is that the machine has a problem dealing with oatmeal (doesn't always come off) and rice (gets stuck to everything else), and that is cured if I increase the wash time to 30 minutes. The newer detergents seemed to have helped, also.
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Post# 31972-8/29/2003-14:46 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Cleanability and the general consumer public (water heating)
MESSAGE: Every dishwasher I've dealt back to the early days keeps the heating element on during the wash and rinse phases to keep the water hot. Of course, now they actually use the element to heat the water from the start, by either delaying the advancing of the timer during the first wash, or not even STARTING the first wash until the water has come up to temp, thereby allowing the prized goal of having 120 degree water heater temp.
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Post# 31973-8/29/2003-17:27 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Cleanability and the general consumer public (KA DW wash times)
MESSAGE: Well, let me go out on a limb here. I know you love you 1978 electronic Kenmore. I'm very familiar with that model and the options for 10/20/30 minute washes. As I remember, there was no "light wash" cycle, just the water miser cycle and you could opt. for the 10 minute wash phase. My first house in 1980 had a dial version of this machine. The main wash was 20 minutes long on the normal cycle. When pots & pans was selected, the wash time was extended to 30 minutes by the timer slowing down and the heater also activated (found this out by running the machine empty before the gas was turned onto the house. The water was only warmed on the PnP cycle wash phase. Anyway, I fully remember having it NOT deal with rice & oatmeal effectively and that was WITH PnP selected and Cascade. When I built my next house in 1985 and it came with a Potscrubber, even the normal wash cycle with it's 25 minute main wash phase with Temp Boost was LIGHT Years AHEAD of the Kenmore's performance hands down. And the Potscrubber cycle was like nuking every bit of soil, I wouldn't have even been able to get that kind a results with the Kenmore on PnP (and believe me I TRIED and bread pudding didn't budge on the Kenmore but was whisked away with the PotScrubber). On my GE GSD1200, energy saver cycle (non-heated wash) cycle is only 18 minutes. The Heated wash cycles (Normal & Light) have a 29 minute wash cycle. Potscrubber has a main wash cycle of between 36 & 46 minutes, depending upon water temp entering the machine for taht fill. I believe, from what I've guessed from the appliance forum on Garden Web (and maybe seeing some diagrams from the WP tall tub family) the normal cycle has an optimal heating time of 30 or 35 minutes to heat the water to 140 degrees and if it hasn't reached that set point, the computer tells the machine to resume countdown. On the Pots & Pans equivalent, the heated pre-wash I beleve times out at 35 minutes and the main wash at 45 minutes (with set points of 135 & 145 respectively). I'm not sure if Maytag compter controlled dishwashers of today "time out" after a certain amount of temp hold period like the KA/WP/KM machines do. But Maytag machines are now in the industry as having some of the logest cycle times. With older mechanical timer machines with temp boos (Myg & WP PowerClean machines), the heated delay went on & on until the thermostat temp was satisfied. With electronic ones this isn't the case unfortunately (of U.S.produced machiness).
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Post# 31974-8/29/2003-17:28 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: LONELY CHILDREN & THEIR OPINIONS
MESSAGE: My next move is to stop talking to you (did I ever make a post to you, I don't even know who the hell you are?) So i'm going to stop talking to you because you can't accept that you are wrong. I know I am right and you are wrong, that is all that matters when it comes to talking to you. All I need to remember is "this guy is wrong about this subject, so it doesn't matter what he says"
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Post# 31975-8/29/2003-17:30 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: LONELY CHILDREN & THEIR OPINIONS (being wrong)
MESSAGE: Fine it's done until next time. (there WILL be a next time with Bob, trust me...) Hopefully he has the decency to email it to me instead of dragging this site down.
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Post# 31976-8/29/2003-17:34 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Cleanability and the general consumer public (water heating)
MESSAGE: Yes older machines had the heating element energized during all water circulation phases. As an example, both of our Kenmore RotoRacks had the heating element turn on shortly after each time it started spraying dishes. How did I know, I'd hear the timer click and the lights on the control panel would dim. And that sucker's heating element would glow bright red during the dry cycle--I know, I'd open the door while I was in dry cycle in a completely dark kitchen just to catch the red glow. Now, see my previous post about my 1980 D&M produced Kenmore. The only time the heating element came on during a cycle was the main wash of the PnP cycle. I think for energy star ratings for today, machines don't energize the heating element until the main wash phase or if they have ATC, then they will at least maintain 120 degree temps. I know on current GE tall tubs, the "Added Heat" enhancement actually energizes the heating element on all wash & rinse phases if you select that option. On my GE GSD1200, the element is on because after the final drain and the timer advances to off (when I use cool dry), I can still hear the heating element popping from water dropplets hitting it. And I've been known to singe my hand in some way when playing with the dishwasher with it runnning without water being added.
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Post# 31977-8/29/2003-17:44 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: LONELY CHILDREN & THEIR OPINIONS (being wrong)
MESSAGE: Kurt, please don't let anyone here get to you. I think it's wonderful to have members of all ages at this group. After all, we were all young admirers of vintage appliances at some point. My fascination with them began as a very young child. The fact that certain members of this group have chosen to be rude to you and attempt to make you feel inferior and unwelcome because of your youth only cause them to appear as rude, bitter, immature and ill-mannered. Pay no attention to them. They aren't worth it. I have seen nothing inappropriate in your posts. Keep posting. It's young, enthusiastic guys like you who ensure groups like this will flourish for years to come.
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Post# 31978-8/29/2003-18:22 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: LONELY CHILDREN & THEIR OPINIONS (In Private )
MESSAGE: FOR GODS SAKE AND ALL OF OUR SAKES WILL YOU 2 EXCHANGE EMAILS, AND TAKE THIS IN PRIVATE. LETS PLEASE GET BACK TO WHAT THIS CLUB SITE IS ALL ABOUT AND THAT IS CLASSIC APPLIANCES
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Post# 31979-8/29/2003-18:43 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: Sooo The best machine is???? (best? Other brands)
MESSAGE: As you all know I have a Hotpoint T L DELUXE 1050, it has 2 spin speeds 1 at 500 for woolens and other fine things, A faster spin speed of 1050 for cottons and other hardwaring items. I did have a few problems with horendous vibrations during the wind up to the full spin speed, this was due to the underlay under the kitchen carpet. As the 2 front wheels on the machine were sitting on the underlay, making the machine unbalanced.
The wash cycle is fabulous is does have a good turn over, being a spiralator agitator. When that all to familiar "CLANG"
of the break lifting off for the basket and agitatior to spin, all I can hear now is the water being pumped out. I can hear the vortex of air rushing around the tub during the hi spin. This has a very beneficial effect on the spin drying, making the clothes smell fresh and sweet smelling.
With the teathing troubles I have had with this machine, I think its the best washer I have had so far. For speed and reliability. Regards to one and all HBMUK
LINK: http://www.kevinkunsworth.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/hotpoint/index.html
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Post# 31980-8/29/2003-18:55 ||| salvoboy (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: RE: Sooo The best machine is???? (best? Other brands)
MESSAGE: Hi Kevin-
Have enjoyed the videos of your baby. Very interesting. Any thoughts about sharing some shots of the controls and the rest of the cabinet etc? Even still photos would be fun. I've been sort of intrigued by the underside of the lid. It looks rather different than American machines. I'm sure the control panel (the various cycles/settings) is cool too.
Greg
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Post# 31981-8/29/2003-19:08 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: Sooo The best machine is???? (best? Other brands)
MESSAGE: I will get some stills on my Hotpoint web site real soon, The link to tiggercam is the friend who did those vids. Hes a busy young man the work thats invloved is very pains taking to do the vids, I am sure he will do some stills for me to add to the web site. So please bear with me guys, I will arrange this soon HBMUK
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Post# 31982-8/29/2003-19:30 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: Thanks to all... Soo what machine is the best
MESSAGE: Hey all,I just want to thank all that responded to my request of what your favorite machine is,and what machine you think is best,and the reasons why? I enjoyed learning from all of you! To any of you out there that have not responded,please do so.It is fun to hear from all members that post on a regular basis of course,but how about you folks out there that we seldom or never hear from? Come on guys! We want to hear your thoughts too. Favorite machine,and why,and best machine and why.I know you have favorites,otherwise you wouldn't be here,right?? Last one to post is a rotton egg!!!! (-: Thanks Rickr
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Post# 31983-8/29/2003-20:09 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Cleanability and the general consumer public (KA DW wash times)
MESSAGE: I guess detergents have gotten better, it seems able to deal with oatmeal and rice now if I extend the wash time on the Normal cycle. I usually use the Water Miser cycle, extending the time to 30 minutes if I put a tough item in. I sometimes also use Sani Temp just to make the rinse run longer. And you're right, the electronic timer resumes countdown when set for Sani Temp if the water hasn't reached 140 degrees in 15 minutes. Because of this little feature, I didn't realize that the heating element had failed for months, since I always use the Power Miser option, too. This failure also caused the dishwasher to shut off at the beginning of the dry cycle (lights would go off) but the drying fan would keep going forever and ever and I couldn't start a new cycle unless I turned the circuit breaker off and on.
This machine just had it's door liner converted to plastic, since the ear on the old porcelain liner that attached to the hinges broke off. Took me all day and into the night to complete the job , what with setbacks like rusted screws, striped screwholes, poor instructions, and such.
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Post# 31984-8/29/2003-20:32 ||| christfr (st louis mo)
SUBJECT: RE: Thanks to all... Soo what machine is the best (dont want to be that rotten egg)
MESSAGE: hey guy had lots of fun reading all the posts and guess the line about the rotten egg got me so here goes i have several and hope that isnt considered cheating but the most fun to play with would have to be my 65 frigidaire with all the bouncing up and down and that ultra high spin speed but for being quiet and runnning smooth its the 68 maytag my 54 maytag is fun but dosnt hold much and she is the noisy one on the bunch ive never had the chance to play with a laundromat but that would be totally awsome to say the least and last of all even though my neptune is showing her age she still cleans my grungy work cloths wonderfully so even if i cheated a bit all i can say is that i couldnt help myself so who ever is next in line tag you it chris
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Post# 31985-8/30/2003-02:37 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: Chat Room
MESSAGE: So what is the link of the classic appliances chat room, I would like to join you guys HBMUK
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Post# 31986-8/30/2003-05:08 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Sooo The best machine is???? (best? Other brands)
MESSAGE: Some info is in my post 31909
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Post# 31987-8/30/2003-05:17 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: LONELY CHILDREN & THEIR OPINIONS
MESSAGE: My response is in the Sandbox, where it should be and where ALL of yours should have been..... Feel free to ignore it if you wish.
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Post# 31988-8/30/2003-08:47 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Sooo The best machine is???? (best? Other brands)
MESSAGE: Anybody have tidbits about Speed Queen in this opinion face-off?
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Post# 31989-8/30/2003-09:57 ||| AndrewInOrlando (Winter Park, FL)
SUBJECT: RE: LONELY CHILDREN & THEIR OPINIONS
MESSAGE: Kurt....quite hoenstly, no one is really right or wrong. It doesn't matter what any one else thinks, about your age or anything else. It's maturity that's the issue. And the mature man will simply say that you have your opinion and I have mine. And that's the end of it. Admittedly antagonizing another is silly and immature. In previous messages from you, I always found you to be quite nice and certainly a welcome member to Applianceville and truly enjoy having a younger perspective around. But a mature person knows that not everyone is going to like us in this world and the reason just doesn't make a fat rat's ass worth of difference. I'm 40 years old Kurt, and I like you, but would it really rock your world if I didn't? And why on God's green earth would you really care?????? IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER!!!
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Post# 31990-8/30/2003-10:04 ||| AndrewInOrlando (Winter Park, FL)
SUBJECT: RE: Cleanability and the general consumer public (pre-rinsing)
MESSAGE: Oh my God, that's so funny.....it's like the older folks that don't "believe" in dishwashers!!! My family is a prime example....they have one...it's the top of the line GE or whatever....but it just sits there and never gets used. Then when you go to take the dishes out of the cupboard to set the table, you know, the ones they handwashed in that real hot, hot water, they're friggin dirty. That's why I don't go there for dinner anymore. Well, that and I live in Florida and they live in NY. But it's so funny looking at the attitudes towards what I think is the biggest time and worksaver in the kitchen. When they come to visit and they see me use my DW and they see the things I put in it, they wanna drop dead. They cannot believe what goes in and how it comes out. DUH!!!
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Post# 31991-8/30/2003-10:09 ||| AndrewInOrlando (Winter Park, FL)
SUBJECT: RE: Cleanability and the general consumer public (KA DW)
MESSAGE: Bob...you have a GSD1200? Had one of those for 2 years in a house I rented. What a terrific dishwasher that was. It had the multiorbit wash arm and just did a terrific job all around. Even rice and cooked cereal were no match for that potscrubber cycle. And it's aerated fine china cycle pampered the good stuff so there was never hand washing of anything. Now if they could have just done away with the wash tower in the middle, it would have been perfect!!
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Post# 31992-8/30/2003-12:38 ||| tumbleaction (North Las Vegas, NV)
SUBJECT: HE Detergents, new brands
MESSAGE: Has anyone noticed the explosion of detergent brands in the HE format? Here in the Las Vegas area, you can now by All, Cheer, Gain, Purex, Tide, and Wisk in the HE variant. I tried the Purex HE, only $2.99 for a 100-oz. bottle at Target. Not bad, and in the classic Purex scent.
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Post# 31993-8/30/2003-13:40 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: More New Detergents - See Sandbox
MESSAGE: New discoveries in the detergent aisle. See Sandbox for details.....
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Post# 31994-8/30/2003-13:46 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Chat Room
MESSAGE: http://users.wcnet.net/dadoes/appchat.html
You may not find anybody there much of the time. You can either wait a while to see if anybody else pops in, or arrange a "scheduled" chat by posting an invite in App'ville or via email with some of the members.
The chat window can be left open in the background or minimized while you continue surfing other sites in a new browser window -- the "anchor" browser window and the chat room itself must both be left open.
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Post# 31995-8/30/2003-15:20 ||| Partscounterman (ST PAUL, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: Cleanability and the general consumer public (pre-rinsing, dishwasher use and dryer controls)
MESSAGE: Yeah, I've been in a lot of homes where they think that the dishwasher is some sort of tupperware storage cabinet. My mother only uses her dw on the big state occasions, never for everyday. she just cannot grasp the concept that you can keep loading the dishwasher for 2-3 days 'til theres enough for a load, so she stands at the stupid sink with her stupid rubber gloves when she could feel like a queen!
The other thing that DRIVES ME CRAZY is that almost no one uses the automatic settings on thier clothes dryers. Instead they guess at using the old-fashioned time setting like this is 1946 or something. The gov't mandates that all dryers now have an auto-dry setting to save energy, but every one seems to be afraid to use it. I thought it was cool when maytag made electronic control and auto-dry machines that had no time settings so the user HAD to trust the dryer control.
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Post# 31996-8/30/2003-15:32 ||| mulls (Johnson City,Tn)
SUBJECT: RE: Sooo The best machine is???? (best? Other brands)
MESSAGE: Here is my take on Speed Queen-a good tough machine that washed well up to the point of overloading.We all went together after my grandfathers death and bought 0ne for my grandmother-a super machine but we had to replace it because her water pressure was too low-wash and rinse had to be reset to get the tub full.My aunt then took it and used it for 20 years!Also,the laundromat in my little home town had them when new and still had them when it closed down many years later.Kinda like a Maytag to me-just good dependable service,nothing fancy,very straightforward-but at least had overflow washes and rinses to make them a little more interesting.
Tom
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Post# 31997-8/30/2003-17:12 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Cleanability and the general consumer public (pre-rinsing, dishwasher use and dryer controls)
MESSAGE: I agree. I have a roommate who was dishwasher phobic. Can't grasp that it uses less water and energy and does a much better job. He would take the dishes loaded in the machine out and wash them in the sink. Yuk! When I found a dirty casserole and a measuring cup that still had cooking oil in it in the cabinet, I laid down the law and said there will be no more of it as long as I'm in this house. Now, if I can get him to quit slamming it, so my crystal doesn't get chipped, LOL.
I don't get that thing with people and automatic drying either. It's a wonderful thing, although when we were having trouble with our gas line (it was clogged) and the clothes wouldn't dry (didn't know what the trouble was originally), the Sears guy tried to tell me I should only be using the timed cycle. I've been using sensor dryers all my life with no problem, and he's telling me I shouldn't be? I don't think so, LOL.
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Post# 31998-8/30/2003-18:54 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: More New Detergents - See Sandbox
MESSAGE: OK, OK... I will post the new detergent information here also. While shopping at a store called "X-Pect Discounts" today I spotted some new ALL offerings:
- All Citrus Breeze Detergent with Orange Essence (quite a mouthful). Clear bottle, navy blue cap and orange liquid. Smells vaguely citrus but not necessarily orange. NOt sure if it comes in powder or not - powders are not big here in CT. But it does have matching fabric softener sheets and liquid. The liquid is a very pretty cantaloupe color - I guess this is to suggest "orange essence".
- All Fresh Rain HE. I don't know if this will be All's only HE offering or if HE versions of regular or "stainlifter plus" will be available. If it is All's only HE offering, I would wonder why they picked this particular version. Again, not sure if it comes in a powdered version or not. It will be interesting to see how this performs against other HE products since All has always been and still is a non enzyme product.
Both were about $4.50 for the 100 ounce liquid.
There is also a new scent of liquid Era - "Crystal Springs". Doesn't smell that much different than anything else out there these days. I am not generally a big Era fan so I am not likely to try it.
Anyone spot anything else new out there? Still haven't seen Purex liquid HE yet here in the East - but the New York Metro area is the last to get anything.
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Post# 31999-8/30/2003-19:06 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Cleanability and the general consumer public (pre-rinsing, dishwasher use and dryer controls)
MESSAGE: Always amazes me. I have a good friend who lives alone and does the same damned thing with the dishwasher. He runs it only on holidays if he has company. So if he has three people over for dinner, he spends unnecessary time washing up by hand. He insists it's less wasteful than the dishwasher - - and he only uses that as a draining rack for dishes. I too have occasionally found a filmy glass or not so clean fork at his table. He is always mortified because he is actually very clean (he does wash his garage floor every other week) but the habits don't change.
And of course, laundry is only done when there is a full load of anything. In order to be sure he is not wasteful, he has exactly 31 pairs of briefs and 62 pair of socks (half colored, half athletic white). He tries to limit himself to a maximum of 9 loads per month and yes he actually monitors this. I guess there is something to be said for frugality but it seems to me that since he can easily afford to treat himself to a little water splurge, why stand at the sink when you don't have to? And above all why deprive yourself of the pleasure of doing laundry??