The following are archived forum messages from the original forum of automaticwasher.org referred to as Applianceville from May, 2001 to Sept 2004...
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Post# 6000-9/30/2001-11:11 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA) SUBJECT:
RE: P.O.T.D. - Kelvinator (Avocado Frigmore) MESSAGE: Oh yeah? A few cans of avocado paint (if you can still get that) later and my (future) Frigmore will be shakin' its groove thang to KC & The Sunshine Band.
Get down with your stainless steel self!
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Post# 6001-9/30/2001-12:00 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California) SUBJECT:
RE: P.O.T.D. - Kelvinator (Paint is cheap...) MESSAGE: Exactly my thought, just do a respray of that Frigmore in any shade of puke you want! Hey, like any true Californian I love them avocados, but I have never thought that the color looked good on appliances. I must be deprived, I've never seen orange formica. But I did once rent a house with the whole downstairs done in orange shag that had long since seen better days. Ugh, hated that stuff, and I lived with it for 12 years!
The best thing about the 70's was that I was in my twenties.
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Post# 6002-9/30/2001-12:22 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: POD - Beautiful Avocado! (1960's and 1970's colors) MESSAGE: JasonL, you probably missed my posts in the past . . . the house I grew up in was built in 1964. It had orange Formica and turquoise built-ins -- wall oven, range hood, and cooktop, (the brand was Martha Washington) -- AND a turquoise porcelain sink. The refrigerator was a white Philco bottom-freezer. When we got KDI-17a in 1975, it was stainless steel. We didn't have carpet until the early 1970's, and it was bright orange (long-nap) shag in the living area and gold (short-nap) shag in the bedrooms. My mother also had a lilac sink and toilet in one bathroom, and a lilac bathtub -- I understand there was some ruckus in getting the builder/plumber to order that color.
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Post# 6003-9/30/2001-12:35 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA) SUBJECT:
RE: P.O.T.D. - Kelvinator (Super 70s and washers through the years) MESSAGE: Well, unfortunately my childhood was in the 70s. I should be a Gen-X New Waver (or headbanger) but I'm a groovadelic funked out white boy trying to get back into the 70s. Every last bit of avocado paint helps.
I had a friend who once lived in a trailer built in the 70s with brown paneling and red shag carpet. He hated it, I would've been in heaven.
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Post# 6004-9/30/2001-12:36 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA) SUBJECT:
Washers in my lifetime MESSAGE: The 70s and 80s were bad for appliances save the Frigidaire 1-18s and Maytags. In the 70s Kenmore got the black ugly control panels (although 1978 gave us the all black electronic Lady). GE also lost alot of chrome but they kept the buttons. Maytag grooved on with it's classic control panel into the 80s. In 1980 Frigidaire stops making the 1-18's and the pulsator is gone forever except for the great collectors who cherish these machines. The 80s also killed the belt-drive Whirly :'( but the Electronic Lady K went on into the 90s. Maytag lost its two-tone control panel for the standard black/silver knobs look. In the 90s the Lady retires and Kenmore Elite pops unto the scene. The appliance store of the 90s got the look of a hospital. Sanitary white. I'm very afraid of doctors, needles and hospitals. Why would I want a washing machine that look like it was built in an operating room? At least GE's TOL washer has a silver and black panel. In a world of all-white cleanliness, there is a silver lining. In the late 90s, the winds of change blew through appliance stores all over America. After 30 years of near extinction, the front loader becomes the center of attention. Maytag gave us the Neptune, Frigidaire and Kenmore gave us the "Frigmore", Fisher & Paykel erupts on the scene with an energy efficient top loader. Kenmore introduces the Calypso in different colors. And now, the year is 2001 and Kenmore unveils the HE3t, the awesome Hettie. And best of all, it comes in different colors, graphite, bisque, and white. The second "golden age" of automatic washing machines is upon us. Even newer developments like the Dysan is gaining popularity. And now, we have washers that connect to the internet.
What will the future hold for appliances? One can only guess. At any rate, it's going to be an interesting future for laundry. Now, if can just find a washer that will wash, dry, and hang up the clothes for me.
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Post# 6005-9/30/2001-12:42 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA) SUBJECT:
RE: POD - Beautiful Avocado! (Is your last name Brady?) MESSAGE: HOLY COW! Please tell me you also had a console stereo with 8-track.
I was a deprived child. Yes, we had brown paneling and 1965 coppertone Modern Maid cooktop and oven. But alas, the Kenmore 800 washer and K600 dryer were white, and NO shag carpet :-( . We did have a console stereo where I religiously listened to dad's Motown, Elvis, and Dean Martin records. Of course when the disco craze hit, then it was Bee Gees, Abba, KC & the Sunshine Band.
By the way. For you who are Village People fans, They were at Jazzland Theme Park last night. I didn't actually hang around to see them but they were there.
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Post# 6006-9/30/2001-12:45 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE) SUBJECT:
Frigidaire Man Was a Hoot MESSAGE: Well, we returned from the wedding/hunting trip today, no washers, but some good books and a possible good source of parts.
Friday AM we drove to the man's farm that I had talked with earlier in the week. They are in the process of completing a new garage/barn and he hadn't had time to dig out a lot of the parts that he had. All of his service stuff was in the former smokehouse/shed and literally buried under 20 years accumulation of crap. We climbed over some rugs and bags of milk containers (save everything - you never know) and were able to get to some of the parts and the service books. Didn't find much for parts right now, but I saw boxes of parts that had been sorted by numbers and listed on cards for inventory. Most of the older numbers were up in the attic space of this shed and inaccessible to us mere mortals. I did bring home some Frigidaire service & parts stuff that I didn't have and some Kitchen Aid/Hobart dishwasher service and parts books from the KD12 thru KD-19 series. We drove across the road to another barn where there were two 1-18's dumped in the loft. The barn looked as if some roof repairs should have been started decades ago and the machines I saw looked as if they had been out in the field for 20 years, very rusty and stripped of numerous parts. One was an early 70's mid line and the other was a BOL. Not worth carrying either one down a ladder to haul home.
As is quite often the case with these hunting side-trips, we didn't have a windfall of machines and boxes full of parts to bring home, but hopefully we'll get back down there for parts again. He told me to make a listing of part numbers that I wanted and he'd look for them. Very sweet man and a true Frigidaire fan, was delighted that someone has an interest in his favorite brand. I'll be sure to keep in touch with him!
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Post# 6007-9/30/2001-12:56 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands) SUBJECT:
RE: Possible finds - opinions, anyone?? (GE Shaking) MESSAGE: I'm not too sure about the Frigmore and the Neptune, frontloaders have a weird way of behaving on wooden floors. I bet they can shake the trailer quite a bit.
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Post# 6008-9/30/2001-13:06 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: POD - Beautiful Avocado! (No Bradys in this room!) MESSAGE: Nope, we didn't have a stereo system at all (a couple nice radios, though) until 1978 when I got an MCS (JCPenney) component system for Christmas. I did get hold of an 8-track player/recorder from a neighbor to add to the system, but cassette was already in full swing at that point in time. I still have (and use) the direct-drive turntable from that system, but am on the 2nd generation/rollover of everything else.
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Post# 6009-9/30/2001-13:18 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA) SUBJECT:
RE: POD - Beautiful Avocado! (Direct Drive turntable (going off topic)) MESSAGE: Direct drive is a GOOD thing for turntables. I have a Dual 605 with Ortofon OM5 here. It sounds as good as it gets for my stereo system.
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Post# 6010-9/30/2001-13:43 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: POD - Beautiful Avocado! (Direct Drive turntable (going off topic)) MESSAGE: Shure V15 Type IV
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Post# 6011-9/30/2001-13:51 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: POTD-Kelvinator MESSAGE: OK, excuse me for being stoopid, but that POTD Kelvinator is a WCI or something? I'm assuming it did NOT have the ABC-style agitator? I do vaguely recall seeing that ad in magazines. I'm almost thinking I had a close encounter with the machine itself, or one with a similar style control panel, perhaps at a store somewhere.
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Post# 6012-9/30/2001-14:56 ||| Angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: P.O.T.D. - Kelvinator (Avocado Frigmore) MESSAGE: Well, now why didn't I think of that?? And for shakin the groove thing - you might add some Bee Gees to the mix!
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Post# 6013-9/30/2001-14:58 ||| Angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: P.O.T.D. - Kelvinator (Paint is cheap...) MESSAGE: Weren't we all in our twenties then?????? And the avocado is particularly appealing with yellow formica and linoleum.........
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Post# 6014-9/30/2001-15:02 ||| Angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: POD - Beautiful Avocado! (1960's and 1970's colors) MESSAGE: A turquoise sink????? Wow - the most exotic color I ever say was "tiger lily" (orange) - and that was in the home of the richest girl in our high school class whose parents were very artsy and had nude sculptures all over the 60'x60'living room. And what was this Martha Washington brand - never heard of this before...........was that a particular line from one of the big manufacturers?
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Post# 6015-9/30/2001-15:08 ||| Angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: Frigidaire Man Was a Hoot MESSAGE: Sounds like you have laid down a good foundation - time will tell.......
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Post# 6016-9/30/2001-16:17 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: POD - Beautiful Avocado! (Martha Washington) MESSAGE: There was a discussion of this brand a while ago, on the Yahoo club. Somebody (Bob?) said some neighbors or friends in Houston had a Martha Washington wall oven and/or cooktop, so it probably was a regional brand in this area. Nobody has otherwise come up with any history or a source manufacturer. There was at least one other house in my hometown that had a Martha Washington wall oven and cooktop. A particular local electrical contractor wired both houses, so I imagine that's where those items came from, and he probably used vendors in Houston . . . so there you are.
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Post# 6017-9/30/2001-16:41 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: POD - Beautiful Avocado! (Martha Washington) MESSAGE: Thanks........
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Post# 6018-9/30/2001-16:50 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana) SUBJECT:
RE: POD - Beautiful Avocado! (Direct Drive turntable (going off topic)) MESSAGE: STANTON D73E HERE
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Post# 6019-9/30/2001-18:38 ||| trainguy (Southwestern Pennsylvania) SUBJECT:
RE: 65 Lady K picts MESSAGE: Congrats! She's a real beauty.
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Post# 6020-9/30/2001-18:42 ||| trainguy (Southwestern Pennsylvania) SUBJECT:
RE: Frigidaire Man Was a Hoot MESSAGE: Sorry you didn't get to bring any washers home. I hope that he is able to help you out with parts in the future.
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Post# 6021-9/30/2001-19:15 ||| HQOTS (Florida) SUBJECT:
HE3t with CLEAR window MESSAGE: Tom just phoned and said in todays Sears ad they have the HE3t set with clear windows! The washer is on sale for 999.99. I wonder how they knew the tinted glass was a flop?
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Post# 6022-9/30/2001-19:45 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA) SUBJECT:
RE: HE3t with CLEAR window (I wasn't tripping) MESSAGE: So the window IS tinted. Just one question... WHY? At least it has a window unlike other brands. $999?! That's a steal! That price might make me reconsider Frigmore. It will fit in my mobile home (I measured the space), but 1200rpms might shake really bad. One way to find out.
Living in a trailer is really cheap when you can't afford a regular house but it's not good for having big appliances around.
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Post# 6023-9/30/2001-19:55 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE) SUBJECT:
RE: 65 Lady K picts MESSAGE: Your new Lady looks beautiful - one of my favorite LK styles. I remember seeing one similar to this panel style at the thrift store in brown, but it had the stationary rear drum/bulkhead with the large electronic sensor on the back wall. Did Sears have this same panel style for a couple of years or change the drum design around this time? I only have a few sears catalogs, not this year.
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Post# 6024-9/30/2001-20:10 ||| steved (Albany NY) SUBJECT:
RE: P.O.T.D. - Kelvinator (hehehe..) MESSAGE: ....our EARLY twenties....:-)SteveD
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Post# 6025-9/30/2001-20:12 ||| steved (Albany NY) SUBJECT:
RE: POD - Beautiful Avocado! (mom & pop) MESSAGE: Angus, Martha Washington was one of those small "mom & pop" companies of the 50's & 60's that ended up being popular in a particular region or two. The House & Home building magazines I have from the 50's thru 60's show many of these small and long gone lines..SteveD
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Post# 6026-9/30/2001-20:13 ||| steved (Albany NY) SUBJECT:
RE: POD - Beautiful Avocado! (PS) MESSAGE: I forgot to ad that these lines were marketed mainly to builders, and not through retail chains SteveD
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Post# 6027-9/30/2001-20:20 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: P.O.T.D. - Kelvinator (hehehe..) MESSAGE: very early twenties..........!!
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Post# 6028-9/30/2001-20:21 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: POD - Beautiful Avocado! (mom & pop) MESSAGE: Thanks Steve.
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Post# 6029-9/30/2001-20:34 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: P.O.T.D. - Kelvinator (hehehe..) MESSAGE: And some didn't quite make it to 20 in that decade . . . 8-)
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Post# 6030-9/30/2001-20:59 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA) SUBJECT:
RE: P.O.T.D. - Kelvinator (20?) MESSAGE: I wasn't even 10 yet.
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Post# 6031-9/30/2001-21:15 ||| devildaddy (Troy NY) SUBJECT:
Sears saleswoman must be sniffing glue MESSAGE: Mike (the husbear) and I were at the Sears store in Portsmouth, NH last weekend. While there, Mike just had to see the HE3Ts. Of course we got jumped by one of the previously mentioned salespeople, in this case a woman in her 50's with salt-and-pepper hair and glasses. Mike was discussing the attributes of the washer with her while she was throwing in little hints here and there to try to get him to buy. This, after he made it perfectly clear that he was just looking. She even turned around to me at one point and said, "He'd like to get this on his Sears charge card with no interest for a year." Looking back on it, I should have said, "No, he'd rather wait until Whirlpool brings it out and go to Home Depot and pay hundreds less and not have to deal with annoying salespeople on commission." They started discussing price, with Mike saying that he would wait until the price goes down before considering purchasing one. She told him that the price was locked and would not be going lower, just as Maytag does. Upon returning home from Mike's this morning, I see that Sears is selling the washer for $999 this week!
During her conversation with Mike, he noted that the display is very deceiving as the washer and dryer are always displayed on their pedestals. The price displayed is always for the appliances only, not mentioning anywhere that the pedestals run $150 a clip. Being the know-it-all that she was, she told him that the washer was manufactured in the US. Mike promptly whipped open the door, pointed to the label and showed her that it was manufactured in Germany. I wanted to laugh at the salesperson, but held back. I don't know what came over me that I decided to be polite. I was so proud of Mike - he knew EXACTLY where to find that label.
Anyhow, if you happen to be in Portsmouth at the Sears store and you see this sales associate, please roll up a copy of this week's advertisement and smack her in the back of the head with it - I know I'd like to.
Charlie
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Post# 6032-9/30/2001-21:20 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: Sears saleswoman must be sniffing glue MESSAGE: Bwhahahahaha! Dontcha just love it when you can throw-down with an uppity sales-wo-man.
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Post# 6033-9/30/2001-21:41 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA) SUBJECT:
RE: Sears saleswoman must be sniffing glue (Sales people) MESSAGE: I hate to say it but sales people just make my blood boil. Like, what part of "I'm just looking" do they not understand? Fortunately, the sales people at Sears in my area aren't very pushy. I went looking at the Hetties. I think when you open the door of any washer at Sears, it trips an alarm because that's when you get jumped. I said "I'm just looking" and I got left alone. The sales person did start the demo mode when I finally said "I just wanted to see how it works". She pushed the buttons and walked away to talk with someone else.
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Post# 6034-9/30/2001-22:49 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California) SUBJECT:
RE: POD - Beautiful Avocado! (Direct Drive turntable (going off topic)) MESSAGE: Direct Drive/Turntables/Good?
Yes and no. Some early dd turntables had electrically noisy motors, and since they had to be positioned at the center of the turntable, the pickup cartridge had to come closer to them than to the motor on a belt driven turntable, and picked up noise. The belt driven motor could be positioned far away from the tonearm's travel arc. I think some early dd turntables also had more vibration than belt driven units. In time however, the industry figured out how to make a dd turntable for a reasonable amount of money. By the time they perfected it, seems like it was a just a few years before CD's took over.
I used to covet the old AR turntable that came out in the late 60's. I got a nice Denon dd turntable about 1979. Still have it, works great. But no 78 speed, so I can't play any of the old Portuguese songs I found on 78's when I bought this house.
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Post# 6035-9/30/2001-23:16 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California) SUBJECT:
RE: HE3t with CLEAR window MESSAGE: Are you sure that's an HE3t, for $999, and not the lower end HE3?
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Post# 6036-9/30/2001-23:27 ||| HQOTS (Florida) SUBJECT:
RE: HE3t with CLEAR window MESSAGE: Yup.
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Post# 6037-9/30/2001-23:30 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California) SUBJECT:
RE: HE3t with CLEAR window (HE3=$999) MESSAGE: I just checked today's Sears ad... the $999 price is for the HE3, not the HE3t ;-(
But the window sure does look clear!
The fine print (very very fine print) says the HE3t is $1319, for the Graphite. Which is still a good price, I think. If only it fit in my laundry closet, and I didn't already have a Neptune 7500 set that fits and works just fine...
These prices are in effect until next Saturday, Oct 6...
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Post# 6038-9/30/2001-23:30 ||| HQOTS (Florida) SUBJECT:
Calypso water use MESSAGE: I am sure we talked about this before but I do have C.R.S. combined with Mental Pause so I'll ask again.
What is the MAX amount of water the Calypso uses without the extra rinse option selected?
Forgetful in Fl
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Post# 6039-9/30/2001-23:32 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California) SUBJECT:
RE: HE3t with CLEAR window (nope not 999 t) MESSAGE: Look at the ad again. The cover of the ad shows the HE3t. But the pricing on page 2 says it's for the HE3. Over on the left bottom, in the blue stripe, there's a little legend that says:
"on our cover: Kenmore Elite HE3t.... save $150, sale 1319.99..."
It is very very close to being deceptive advertising, particularly since the "t" is extremely small and hard to read.
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Post# 6040-9/30/2001-23:33 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE) SUBJECT:
RE: HE3t with CLEAR window MESSAGE: The unit pictured on the front is the HE3t, but no price is listed - just "introduction of the washer." Inside the model advertised for $999 is stated as being the HE-3, stock #42822 (no temp boost and spins at 900rpm) HE3t is stock #42922.
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Post# 6041-9/30/2001-23:36 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use MESSAGE: 21 gal. - Calypso
15.8 gal. - HE3 series
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Post# 6042-9/30/2001-23:38 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE) SUBJECT:
RE: HE3t with CLEAR window MESSAGE: stock numbers for the HE3t in the book I have (stolen) reads 42922, paper ad reads 42926 - maybe that's the clear window change.....
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Post# 6043-9/30/2001-23:47 ||| appnut (Temple, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: P.O.T.D. - Kelvinator (20?) MESSAGE: I hit 20 by 74.
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Post# 6044-9/30/2001-00:00 ||| HQOTS (Florida) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use MESSAGE: Thank you!!
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Post# 6045-10/1/2001-05:01 ||| trainguy (Southwestern Pennsylvania) SUBJECT:
That's My Baby! MESSAGE: The POD brings tears to my eyes. The pair is so beautiful in pink. Too bad mine are in white.
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Post# 6046-10/1/2001-05:41 ||| appnut (Temple, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use (HE3 2nd rinse) MESSAGE: If you add this option, then the water use is comparable.
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Post# 6047-10/1/2001-05:46 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: Ariel measurements (Wringer Washer all) MESSAGE: Angus, as a follow up to your message 5802 about Fluffy All, I wish to apologize. My box of All is Wringer Washer All. It is yellow, with blue letters. There is a red rectangle in the upper left corner that says "Controlled suds detergent for easier rinsing." At the bottom it says it is for wringer and spinners machines. On the back it says it is a "Product of Monsanto Chemical Co., St. Louis, MO" so this was before All was sold to Lever. Near the bottom on the back is a picture of a wringer and a spinner machine. The size is 1 lb., 3 ozs. Tom
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Post# 6048-10/1/2001-05:53 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: Oxi (Oxy?) Clean MESSAGE: Fresh Start's suds last through a couple of rinses and you have to be very careful if you use it in a FL. You can go from no suds to a machine full with as little as a 1/4 teaspoon difference in the amount used. TT
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Post# 6049-10/1/2001-05:59 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: Oxi (Oxy?) Clean MESSAGE: Liquid detergents are alcohol based. The alcohol attacks the older rubber formulations. TT
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Post# 6050-10/1/2001-06:02 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: GE Americana 'Dispensall' MESSAGE: Don't know how long your mom had the
Dispensall, but with anything other than very soft water and the no phosphate detergents that were comong on board, the little flippers in the dispensall system soon caked with deposits and stopped working, at least in this area. Might have been why GE discontinued it.
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Post# 6051-10/1/2001-06:10 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: POD - Beautiful Avocado! (orange & turquoise) MESSAGE: Love those Howard Johnson colors. Still remember the restaurants fondly, my favorite selection from the children's menu and the Friday Night Fish Fry, all you could eat and taking the used lemons home for the disposer. TT
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Post# 6052-10/1/2001-06:20 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: HE3t with CLEAR window MESSAGE: The ad said HE3t elite for 999.
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Post# 6053-10/1/2001-06:22 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: HE3t with CLEAR window (HE3=$999) MESSAGE: I would be that by the time you got the consumer affairs agency or reporter involved, Sears would be tripping over themselves walking backward to make up for the blatantly deceptive advertising.
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Post# 6054-10/1/2001-06:24 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: That's My Baby! MESSAGE: You could be very thankful that you have any at all. Tom
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Post# 6055-10/1/2001-06:38 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: That's My Baby! MESSAGE: sigh...... I would take any color, but pink seems so appropriate for a washer and dryer. Of course, I do lioke the yellow too........
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Post# 6056-10/1/2001-06:40 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: Ariel measurements (Wringer Washer all) MESSAGE: Tom - no apologies necessary - I learned something new. I was totally unfamiliar with that product. And I thought All was always a Lever product. Thanks for the education...............
Anthony
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Post# 6057-10/1/2001-06:43 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: Oxi (Oxy?) Clean MESSAGE: Tom - I have noticed that my most recent shipment of Fresh Start does create more suds, especially on the lower water level where there is more splashing, yet the package still claims "low suds formula" for easy rinsing. I wonder what gives. Also, they have changed the fragrance somewhat - a little more perfumed........... I am less happy with Fresh Start now.
Anthony
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Post# 6058-10/1/2001-07:23 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE) SUBJECT:
RE: That's My Baby! MESSAGE: Some would give a queen's ransom for the set in any color! You are very lucky!
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Post# 6059-10/1/2001-07:32 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: Ariel measurements (Wringer Washer all) MESSAGE: Anthony, according to my dad who worked with manufacturing chemists, Monsanto was trying to develop a machine dishwashing detergent (sudsless) when they serendipitously came up with all for washers. They were not really in the field to market stuff to the household level and sold the formulas and rights to Lever. Machine dishwasher detergents before the early 50s consisted largely of phosphated water softeners, but no surfactants because sudsless surfactants had not yet been researched and developed. That was why you had to almost prewash dishes before using old dishwashers (pre mid 50s), that and the fact that they had short cycles and were not that good. Tom
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Post# 6060-10/1/2001-07:51 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE) SUBJECT:
RE: Ariel measurements (Wringer Washer all) MESSAGE: I remember the ladies talking about how terribly harsh the older dishwasher detergents were, I'm sure they would have been referring to the 60's timeframe. Part of the problem for many was that a lot of dishes and flatware were not compatible with the high temps and detergents too. My grandmother rarely used her GE t/l machine. Would be hard to change the way you've done dishes for 40 years, especially with an impeller dishwasher that was somewhat fussy about loading and pre-rinsing.
I've been reading the Kitchen Aid service books and use tips for some of the older models, very interesting. A neighbor has a KDS-15 that I would love to play with sometime.
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Post# 6061-10/1/2001-08:00 ||| appnut (Temple, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: That's My Baby! MESSAGE: That's a big 10-4, right-on, and Amen!!! for that statement. Most of us would love to have a pair like that.
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Post# 6062-10/1/2001-09:11 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California) SUBJECT:
RE: HE3t with CLEAR window (HE3=$999) MESSAGE: I imagine that more than one customer is going to complain about this deceptive advertising. I would also, except I can't fit the darn things in my laundry closet.
Perhaps the advertisement designer was sniffing glue along with the salespeople.
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Post# 6063-10/1/2001-09:41 ||| Lenny (Northeastern Pennsylvania, USA) SUBJECT:
RE: GE Americana 'Dispensall' (Dispensall Woes) MESSAGE: Hey Tom:
Yea, the Dispensall GE did have a lot of trouble with the mechanism that diverted the filter-flo. We had the Dispensall Americana for about 11 years - actually it never died completely but we bought the new McGraw Edison Speed Queens as a pair to replace the 'rusting' G.E. Near the end of its life the Dispensall was a wreck. It malfunctioned regularly, didnt dispense the bleach or softener with consistancy and it had a linting buildup problem. I noticed that in later Dispensall units the bleach dispenser was a port that directed the bleach directly down into the outer tub. My Dispensall held the bleach in a compartment with a siphon drain that always clogged and didnt drain. But still, the Americana was a nice machine albeit NOISEY! Thanks, Lenny
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Post# 6064-10/1/2001-09:52 ||| Peterh770 (Atlanta, GA) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use MESSAGE: I'm with Robert... Dabomatic...
-ph
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Post# 6065-10/1/2001-09:57 ||| HQOTS (Florida) SUBJECT:
RE: 65 Lady K picts MESSAGE: More picts have been added to the 65 Kenmore page.
LINK: http://web.tampabay.rr.com/jasonspages/
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Post# 6066-10/1/2001-10:03 ||| appnut (Temple, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: 65 Lady K picts MESSAGE: Thank you Jason for the new photos. Looks like a lovely day in Florida this morning.
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Post# 6067-10/1/2001-10:41 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) SUBJECT:
RE: That's My Baby! (WCI-58-the most advanced Unimatic of them all!) MESSAGE: My WCI-58 is probably my favorite machine in my entire collection. I've often thought about what I would do if I only could keep one washer. It would definately come down to the Control Tower or the WCI-58. I'm pretty sure the WCI-58 would win because of its Cool wash water setting and the fact that its turquoise. Good thing I don't really have to make that choice.
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Post# 6068-10/1/2001-11:02 ||| appnut (Temple, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: That's My Baby! (WCI-58-the most advanced Unimatic of them all!) MESSAGE: And Robert, that's why I trusted it to be first of the two machines to do my family wash when I conventioning--not even a wrinkle or a snag in my wrinkle-free or polos. My 3rd choice would have been the 57 washer.
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Post# 6069-10/1/2001-11:22 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use (My Weekend Visit to the Appliance Stores) MESSAGE: Over the weekend I visited two appliance stores and check’d out the latest and greatest in washing machines. I saw the Whirlpool version of the Calypso in a very nice shade of gray. Is there a difference between the Kenmore and Whirlpool Calypso as far as does one have more features than the other? The lid switch in this machine at this store must have been disabled, because it operated with the lid open. I watched the entire 8 minute extended spin cycle. The first two minutes of spin starts at low speed and ramps up to medium speed. Then after two minutes it stops and nutates the wash load for a minute, then starts to spin and after another minute or two goes into high 800rpm spin. I wonder why they found a need to stop the spin after two minutes and fluff the load. I would think once its balanced, keep on going, otherwise risk making the load unbalanced. I also noticed all three Calypso’s that I had put into spin in the different stores, had vibration problems, even without any clothes in them. Jason, does you machine vibrate? Maybe the machines were not perfectly level.
I also saw the large capacity Miele and the extra large capacity Miele. Unfortunately the extra large capacity machine is $1700 and only spins up to 1200rpm. For some reason the $1100 large capacity machine spins up to 1600rpm. Strange
I saw the Asko’s and I wasn’t very impressed. I also saw a couple Bosch washers, both seemed to be made with cheaper materials than any other machine, but I could have been mistaking. I again saw the Fisher-Pakyl, this always struck me as nice-compact looking styled machine.
I found it interesting that the AEG wasn’t on the sales floor, but they could special order it for me if I wanted.
Then I went to the Mall of America to see the HE3t. I started the machine up and watched the spin cycle. It wasn’t connected to water, so I could see any wash action. I did have a Moist-Towelette in my purse, so I threw one in the washer to simulate the HE3t’s wash action. Just for fun, I through in a second Towelette to see what it would be like to choose extra-large water level. It was a nice looking machine, but I can’t wait to see the Whirlpool version in all those colors. The sales-person said the Whirlpool version will not have as many features as the Kenmore version.
For a split second I envisioned bringing one these new machines home to play with, but then I came to my senses and went home to throw a load in the Westinghouse Laundromat. Ahhhhhhh. LOL!
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Post# 6070-10/1/2001-11:43 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands) SUBJECT:
RE: POD - Beautiful Avocado! (Direct Drive turntable (going off topic)) MESSAGE: Belt drive here. Thorens 318 with a Denon DL 300 (I think).
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Post# 6071-10/1/2001-11:45 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands) SUBJECT:
RE: HE3t with CLEAR window (I wasn't tripping) MESSAGE: I still think you should stick to a toploader. Too much shaking from a frontloader.
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Post# 6072-10/1/2001-11:49 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands) SUBJECT:
RE: P.O.T.D. - Kelvinator (Paint is cheap...) MESSAGE: Teens, but then again I was in Europe where things weren't as colorful as in the US. At least until brown got into fashion, then suddenly everything got brown. I guess that made me love white appliances.
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Post# 6073-10/1/2001-12:01 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands) SUBJECT:
RE: That's My Baby! MESSAGE: White is OK with me, just send them over.
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Post# 6074-10/1/2001-12:12 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands) SUBJECT:
RE: 65 Lady K picts MESSAGE: Very nice dryer Jason, do you have the space to put the dryer next to the washer (perhaps on the front porch)?
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Post# 6075-10/1/2001-12:20 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California) SUBJECT:
RE: P.O.T.D. - Kelvinator (teens & 20's) MESSAGE: Well to be more precise, I hit 21 in '74. So I was still a teen when the 70's started. As I recall, disco didn't hit its stride until about '74/'75, although I recall plenty of disco duds in the shops that I couldn't afford along Telegraph Avenue in Berkeley around 73-74. Looked like a pimp convention. It was an interesting transition from tie-dye to platform shoes.
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Post# 6076-10/1/2001-12:21 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use (My Weekend Visit to the Appliance Stores) MESSAGE: I guess the XL Miele is so expensive because it's based on the commercial Mieles. Actually the bigger one is a whole different machine than the large capacity Mieles. The commercial machines spin up to 1200 rpm. The normal models spin up to 1600 and in Europe there are a few 1800 rpm available.
Bosch washers are indeed made with cheaper materials than Mieles, but I find the Asko's feel cheaper than the Bosch's. You saw a few Bosch models, I thought Bosch was only selling one model in the US, or were they all the same?
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Post# 6077-10/1/2001-12:57 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use (1926) MESSAGE: Louis,
The XL Miele we have is the 1926. The wash basket is just a bit deeper, enough for the common housewife to stuff a big conforter in and think it'll come out clean. I saw the commercial machine at the Clean show and it is a very impressive machine, nothing at all like the 1926. I like the smaller one, I think it's the 1918 with the 1600 rmp spin. That one mirrors my Kenamore and the Quietline in capacity.
-ph
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Post# 6078-10/1/2001-15:00 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California) SUBJECT:
Ahhhh... hot water.... meandering post... MESSAGE: Sunday morning I woke up to a tepid shower. The water just wouldn't get hot. I stumbled out and discovered the pilot for the gas water heater was out. It was easy to relight, and stayed lit. In an hour I had nice piping hot water again. First time in the four years I've lived here that this has happened. The heater and surrounding area was nice and dry, so I don't think there was a leak. Maybe an interruption in gas service, or maybe a fleck of rust got into the pilot tube. Anyway, it helped me appreciate how wonderful hot water is, both in the shower and in the washers.
Speaking of washers, while I was waiting for the hot water heater to get back to normal, I went out and worked on the '78 Dodge p/u truck. I was flushing the cooling system. I suppose in a pinch I could use that to heat water, seems to do that best ;-). Been working a lot on this old heap a lot since I bought it, cleaning the outside of motor, cleaning the inside with an engine oil flush, cleaning the cooling system with coolant flushes, replacing various little brittle smog hoses, plugs, thermostat, plug wires, several oil changes, adjusting this and that like idle mix and transmission linkage. More work than I bargained for, but I have discovered that the Neptune 7500 with Sears HE and STPP does a bang up job of cleaning up some very grimy work clothes. The duds I wore while degreasing the motor were in particular very dirty. But the Neptune got them quite clean. It's sort of nice to be able to peel off work clothes, right at the washer, toss them in, go take a shower, and then run the Neptune and be confident it will remove all the dirt and get the clothes ready for the next session.
Disposable vinyl gloves come in very handy as well.
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Post# 6079-10/1/2001-16:02 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use (1926) MESSAGE: Peter,
There are several lines of commercial machines. I have seen the 1926 on Miele's US website. Although the 1903 and the 1918 seem to be similar to the 1926 in fact they are totally different. Not only the drum is a bit deeper but the whole machine is 10cms (around 4 inches) deeper. The 1926 is based on a commercial machine which is sold a lot in Europe. In Europe however there is not such a machine as the 1926 available for consumers. They just did it to have an XL machine for the US market.
Louis
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Post# 6080-10/1/2001-16:51 ||| HQOTS (Florida) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use (My Weekend Visit to the Appliance Stores) MESSAGE: It vibrates but does not walk or bang around. The high speed super duper 65 Lady K does worse in the vibration dept.
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Post# 6081-10/1/2001-16:52 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use (BOHCA) MESSAGE: They accommodate Americans by giving us a bigger machine... Now if we can only get the American housewife to stop complaining about having to bend over to load/unload the washer! Maybe if husbands paid more attention to their wives when they did laundry there wouldn't be such resistants to FL's!
-ph
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Post# 6082-10/1/2001-16:53 ||| HQOTS (Florida) SUBJECT:
RE: 65 Lady K picts MESSAGE: Laundry appliances do not go on the front porch. They go on the back porch. The only things that are supposed to be on the front porch is the couch and refrigerator.
These will be hooked up in the house though.
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Post# 6083-10/1/2001-16:55 ||| HQOTS (Florida) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use (BOHCA) MESSAGE: That would be like getting the average american to stop overloading the washer and to use the proper amount of detergent.
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Post# 6084-10/1/2001-17:05 ||| appnut (Temple, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: 65 Lady K picts (on the front porch) MESSAGE: I guess it's only Arkansas that has them on the front porch. Oh wait a minute, I also saw them out front in Kentucky too.
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Post# 6085-10/1/2001-17:06 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK) SUBJECT:
RE: 65 Lady K picts (What Is???) MESSAGE: HI Jason
Great dryer, what is the dark vent thingy on the bottom of the drum ??? is it the air distribution vent, if so does the air flow through this and out the back panel???
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 6086-10/1/2001-17:11 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use (My Weekend Visit to the Appliance Stores) MESSAGE: Robert
Thank god for the laundromat and that you came to your senses, you had me worried then....
What diameter drum in inches is the hettie, is it like your whirly combi????
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 6087-10/1/2001-17:22 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use (My Weekend Visit to the Appliance Stores) MESSAGE: Hi Louis
Can you get 1800rpm Mieles in Europe??, ours only hit 1600 at the moment, only AEG does the 1800.
I had a toploader whirlpool vertical drum action machine for a few years, spun 1100 but vibrated and was noisier than same spin front loader.
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 6088-10/1/2001-17:22 ||| HQOTS (Florida) SUBJECT:
RE: 65 Lady K picts (What Is???) MESSAGE: Do you mean the big black thing on the drun itself? If so those are the moisture fingers that tell the solid state control when to turn off the dryer.
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Post# 6089-10/1/2001-17:26 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use (1926) MESSAGE: Hi Peter
Whats the fastest spinning machine you have in the laundromat??
Do any of the commercial machines use jet spray technology??
Happy Washing,
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 6090-10/1/2001-17:31 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK) SUBJECT:
RE: 65 Lady K picts (Thats right!!!) MESSAGE: Hi Jason
Thanks for the explaination, are they like moisture sensors to determine dryness and then switch the heat and dryer off
Mike
p.s. great pics,just finished browsing the rest of your site, all of this started for me with a Kirby Tradition!!!!
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Post# 6091-10/1/2001-17:39 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use (Does my machine vibrate?) MESSAGE: If you're asking me this question, watch the video and the answer is a resounding yes. Hehe.
If you're asking the other Jason, well, I knew that's who you were asking anyway.
Any washing machine will vibrate on a wood floor.
I saw a Fisher & Paykel sitting atop a plywood platform and it shook at 1000rpm, but not very badly though.
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Post# 6092-10/1/2001-17:40 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA) SUBJECT:
RE: POD - Beautiful Avocado! (You're the man) MESSAGE: Thorens is way above my budget for a turntable. Most of my records are on mp3 or CD now so my table hardly gets used.
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Post# 6093-10/1/2001-17:50 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA) SUBJECT:
RE: 65 Lady K picts (There's a nice trailer park in Louisiana...) MESSAGE: that could win the award for outdoor appliances. But I live in a squeeky clean trailer park where appliances belong inside. I had a dishwasher on my porch and the landlady told me to put it somewhere else.
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Post# 6094-10/1/2001-18:07 ||| HQOTS (Florida) SUBJECT:
RE: 65 Lady K picts (Thats right!!!) MESSAGE: Thats what they do. Except this dryer has 2 heating elements. One element is on all the time and the second one operates off of the operating thermostat. It makes the clothes dry faster because you always have constant heat.
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Post# 6095-10/1/2001-18:38 ||| appliguy (Vienna Va.) SUBJECT:
I think there is a LK Electronic dryer of 1978 on EBay MESSAGE: I do believe that this is one of the first LK electronic control dryers. I had a friend in high school who's parents had this dryer and the matching weasher and they told me that they had bought them new in 1978 when they moved into their house. So I hope this is the real thing......aftyer all it is harvest gold
Wrinkle Guard Kenmore Heavy Duty Elec. Drayer
Item # 1280660074
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Post# 6096-10/1/2001-20:13 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use (BOHCA) MESSAGE: Perhaps we can correct the overloading and misuse of detergent problem through electric shock therapy - - I can think of several likely and deserving candidates!!!
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Post# 6097-10/1/2001-20:14 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: 65 Lady K picts (on the front porch) MESSAGE: The great state of Mississippi doesn't do too badly in that department either!!
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Post# 6098-10/1/2001-22:07 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia) SUBJECT:
RE: POD - Beautiful Avocado! (Inside is what counts) MESSAGE: Forget the Avacado exterior, I am a fan of WHITEGOODS! Not brown goods or yellow goods. I had a frined with a hideous yellow WIlskins Servis automatic from the 70's
While I love ABBA and other 70's music, I am truly greatful to be a noughtie boy when it comes to dress and decoration.
I would still love to see the agitator inside this Kelvinator though and what about the fantastic slection of buttons!! I printed this page off and I look at it every night before I go to bed!
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Post# 6099-10/1/2001-22:14 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia) SUBJECT:
RE: Sears saleswoman must be sniffing glue (followers) MESSAGE: I hate it when they start following you around and start asking you questions. I just hate being pestered in any store. I like to research what I am buying, Look at it, feel it and play with it rather than someone who just wants to make a sale.
If they start following me around they end up following me out of the store.
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Post# 6100-10/1/2001-22:16 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia) SUBJECT:
RE: Sears saleswoman must be sniffing glue MESSAGE: Maybe someone can inform me why Sears is so unpopular here and on that home site. I gather the staff are on commission. I conjure up images in my head of the Staff in "ARE you being served". Ironically in Australia we do have a dept store called Grace Bros.
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Post# 6101-10/1/2001-23:49 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California) SUBJECT:
RE: Sears saleswoman must be sniffing glue MESSAGE: Sears is a nationally known and distributed chain. So it's a familiar quantity to most US customers. To be fair, I have found some other chains to be even worse than Sears - such as Western Appliance in California. At WA, the staff is only interested in their commission. They have absolutely no interest or capacity to help a customer if there are problems after the sale or delivery. I once casually mentioned to the salesperson that the gas cooktop I bought at WA just a month earlier had some drawbacks. Their kneejerk response was "call the manufacturer" before I had even finished. At least Sears has some semblance of customer service.
Grace Brothers however looks highly professional compared to most Sears stores. Although I'm still waiting to hear a Sears appliance salesman, when asked why he didn't sell a set of pedestals with the latest HE3t purchase, "Don't worry, it will ride up with wear" ;-)
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Post# 6102-10/1/2001-00:20 ||| rapidry1000 (San Francisco) SUBJECT:
RE: Sears saleswoman must be sniffing glue (Western Appliances in the San Francisco Bay Area) MESSAGE: I agree with your assessment of Western Appliances. Their elaborate two page ads in the San Jose Mercury News really entices people to the store. Sort of bait and switch with loss leaders. I drove over to the San Leandro store about six months ago looking for a new dishwasher and was totally disappointed by the store and its salespeople. I would rather go to the Sear Outlet store nearby just south in San Leandro.
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Post# 6103-10/1/2001-00:28 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia) SUBJECT:
RE: Sears saleswoman must be sniffing glue MESSAGE: Just imagine what the 1200 rpm spin speed on a hettie would do to Mrs Slocombes pussy...
My friend and I thought it was hilarious to look up slocombe in the white pages, ring them up and tell them we found a missing pussy. Rude teenage boys!
My Auntie from England nearly died when we took her to Grace Bros. It got even better when she got served by a Mr Humphries.
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Post# 6104-10/1/2001-00:30 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia) SUBJECT:
RE: Sears saleswoman must be sniffing glue MESSAGE: I should scan a Grace Bros catalogue for you all too share. If I only had a scanner. I dont have one at work either.
Grace Bros catalogue never as good as the Harvey Norman one. Grace Bros also stocks AEG front loaders!
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Post# 6105-10/1/2001-01:53 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California) SUBJECT:
RE: Sears saleswoman must be sniffing glue (Western Appliances in the San Francisco Bay Area) MESSAGE: Yep, that's the same store where I had my less-than-perfect consumer experience. Since then I've only used them to look at different model appliances. Although the salespeople stick like glue and will follow one all the way to the front door. I usually feel like I need a hot shower after dealing with them in any way. To be fair, a WA in San Jose seemed slightly better, although not much. I think all the major discount chains are probably about the same - WA, Circuit City, Best, etc... more sales than service oriented. Which is why I bought my Neptune from a parts distributor and my KA fridges from a "mom and pop" style shop (Airport Appliance in Hayward). AA even has Mieles, Bosches, and Askos on display. They have a good selection of ranges and cooktops as well. Not that AA can service things either, mind you ;-).
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Post# 6106-10/1/2001-01:57 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California) SUBJECT:
RE: Sears saleswoman must be sniffing glue MESSAGE: Now I always wondered how Mrs. Slocum spelled her name. Those pussy jokes do get a bit tired after a while, but they never fail to elicit a big response from the laugh track ;-). It's funny, perhaps other Americans had the same reaction, I used to feel sorry for the English having such shabby department stores and even shabbier sales and customer service tactics. Then there's that Michael Ellis running around trying to return a defective ant.
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Post# 6107-10/2/2001-03:47 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member MESSAGE: Hi;
I'm very behind on reading the posts. I know what your talking about "Aqua Lina" it's a term that Italians use. (lol) Being from an Italian family and also from Brooklyn I know what you are talking about. We had a bleach man who use to deliver bleach to the house. My grandmother called it "Javel Water" or the Italians called it "Aqua Lina". All the old Italian women in the neighborhood who got it delivered to the house called the guy who made the deliveries " The Javel Water Man". (lol) I still use bluing on the white clothes, the liquid stuff I get a the grocrey store here in Brooklyn is called "Bluette". I also used LaFrance it was a powdered bluing but it's not around anymore. This is so funny I never thought I ever hear these terms again. Anyway welcome to the club!
"Brooklyn Robert"
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Post# 6108-10/2/2001-05:57 ||| appnut (Temple, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: 65 Lady K picts (on the front porch) MESSAGE: Thanks Angus, but I've never been to Mississippi.
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Post# 6109-10/2/2001-06:15 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member MESSAGE: Hey Robert - I started to respond and managed to exit my message midstream. I don't know if the partial reaponse made it to the postings, so I will repeat the entire thing. I was thrilled to see someone else remembered the same things as I did. We also had a "Javelle man" in our neighborhood (Fort Greene - Clinton Avenue between Myrtle and Park Avenues - across the street from the Drakes Bakery). Mom only bought from him occasionally. We also had a guy named "Pressberger" who peddled linens on the weekly installment plan, but we can save this for another day. Funny thing about the term "javelle" - I do think it is the generic term for bleach in French, Italian and Spanish - I have seen a brand of bleach in Canada and Mexico called "Javex", and in Canada, Tide with Bleach is Tide "avec javellisant".
But I am still not clear on something - do you remember "Aqua Lina" being a specific brand? I am nearly 100% positive that this is the case and in our region, that became the generic term for bleach, like Clorox is today. Of course, I was a kid in the early 60's and I think the brand was gone by the mid 60's.
I also still use Bluette liquid,which I think is a descendant of the product known as "Bleachette Bluing" - you might remember this - chunks of solid bluing wrapped in cheesecloth and sold in foil covered toilet paper type rolls. Besides, no Brooklynite would dare hang a white wash that has not been blued? What would the neighbors think???? You may want to know that LaFrance is still available - but tough to find. Even here in Connecticut some of the smaller independent grocers carry it. You can also order it directly from Dial since they have acquired Purex. I think the web address is www.dial.com, or www.purex.com.
A final note - I remember reading that you are with the NYPD - I work in the city and after what has happened, I think we all feel the need to give all of you and the firefighters a big hug and say thanks for helping us every single day.
Anthony
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Post# 6110-10/2/2001-06:18 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (What is blueing?) MESSAGE: I've heard of it before. Is it an old word for fabric softener?
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Post# 6111-10/2/2001-06:18 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: 65 Lady K picts (on the front porch) MESSAGE: Well, shoot, you are practically neighbors! I lived there for a year and had a great time. I made some wonderful friends - even if they did call me "Yankee boy". They are very conscious of their past image and work very hard to overcome that. I still keep in touch with them 16 years later............
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Post# 6112-10/2/2001-06:30 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (What is blueing?) MESSAGE: Hey - Jason - bluing is not the same as fabric softener. I am no chemist, but it is simply a combination of compounds and optical brighteners designed to be added to the final rinse water of your white clothes. It leaves the clothes with a slightly blue cast that makes them look whiter - especially if you hang your wash outside. This really was particularly popular in the days when your washday products (Oxydol, Instant Fels, Selox, Duz, Ivory Snow, Ivory Flakes) were pure soap. Soap may have cleaned the clothes - but they didn't brighten - so this product was essential. Even the early synthetic detergents didn't contain optical brighteners so bluing continued to be popular. Of course, the late 50's saw the introduction of blue detergents - Blue Cheer, Rinso Blue and Silver Dust Blue that supposedly whitened better because they contained bluing - who could forget Cheer's "exclusive Blue Magic whitener"????
Also, old ladies with white hair rinsed their hair with it to prevent yellowing - giving rise to the term "Killer Blues". Today, for the most part, it is really not used that much and isn't always widely available. I continue to use it since I do use a clothesline for most of my wash and I still think it really makes a difference. Of course, you need to be really careful - can't use it with liquid fabric softeners or liquid starch and if you do not mix the right proportions, you end up with either navy blue or gray underwear!!!!
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Post# 6113-10/2/2001-06:30 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: Ariel measurements (Wringer Washer all) MESSAGE: Greg, our KDI 15, put in the house in 1966 is still going.
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Post# 6114-10/2/2001-06:36 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use (My Weekend Visit to the Appliance Stores) MESSAGE: Robert, Thanks for the report. We have found that most of the machines on the floor at Sears do not have the leveling legs screwed in and that makes them shaky when spinning because the vibrations are not routed right. Was the tub really that much larger in the Miele extra cap machine? Was it large like the Hettie? TT
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Post# 6115-10/2/2001-06:43 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use (BOHCA) MESSAGE: I guess what the wives are wearing when they bend over and where the kids are at the time all factor into this "love in front of the laundry machines" scenario of yours, Peter.
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Post# 6116-10/2/2001-06:54 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member MESSAGE: BR, Have not seen the term Javel water since I read a Norge booklet from the late 50s/early 60s called "Let's cook up a wash." It had all of these terms. Speaking of bluing, has anyone ever grown a salt garden on a piece of coal and used bluing to color the crystals? We had one in the first grade. Now you probably cannot buy a lump of coal. We used to use Mrs. Stewart's bluing in the bottle with the cork top.
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Post# 6117-10/2/2001-06:57 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member MESSAGE: Javel is defined in my French dictionary as potassium chloride water, so it would be different that sodium hyperchlorite bleach. TT
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Post# 6118-10/2/2001-07:07 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia) SUBJECT:
RE: Sears saleswoman must be sniffing glue MESSAGE: Hmmm, I didnt find anything wrong with British dept stores.
Mrs Slocombes cat always gets a laugh out of juvenile teenagers.
I was always under the impression that AYBS was one of the few British sitcoms to be popular in America. Others such as Man about the house got americanised into thress company. How dis Mrs Bucket fare?
When I see British interior decoration in the 70's It makes me even more glad I am a noughtie boy!
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Post# 6119-10/2/2001-07:12 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia) SUBJECT:
Question for Louis/chestermike MESSAGE: Hi guys. Been looking through my Bosch brochure and my Ariston brochures and I noticed that the have an extra rinse button as well as a fast wash button. Can both these options be used at the same time? And how does the quick wash button save time? Does it cut wash time or does it eliminate rinses?
Also how does washing in cold water affect cycle times?
Thanx heaps guys
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Post# 6120-10/2/2001-07:13 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (What is blueing?) MESSAGE: Young one, bluing was not softener, although most softeners contain bluing to eliminate the grayness that can develop with repeated softener use. Bluing was a part of the old wash formula and was largely replaced with something detergent manufacturers call "optical brighteners." Lye soap which used to be used for laundering could leave clothes less than white, especially if the rinsing was not thorough and the linens were subjected to the heat of an iron, as they were way back when. With a wringer washer and set tubs, bleaching was more difficult than now, because you could not put bleach in the wash water since everything usually was washed in the same machine full of water. Remember this water often had to be heated on a stove when many people did not have a nice 40 gallon water heater in the house. If you bleached, it was in the first rinse and that was less than easy if you did not have set tubs with drains to the house plumbing because this bleach water had to be drained before the rest of the wash like the colored items could be rinsed in that tub. If you had galvanized tubs sitting on a platform that were drained into the floor drain, you had bleach water on the floor when you drained them and then you had to refill with either a hose or pail, depending. So many times the whites were made to look whiter by putting a couple of drops of bluing in the final rinse water. I remember how beautiful it looked when clear and blue before any clothes had been dunked in it. TT
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Post# 6121-10/2/2001-07:16 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member MESSAGE: TT - that's a new one for me.......
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Post# 6122-10/2/2001-07:18 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member MESSAGE: Yes - but I wonder if it is one of those terms that, while not "technically correct" became acceptable through common usage .........
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Post# 6123-10/2/2001-07:23 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (What is blueing?) MESSAGE: TT - imagine how difficult this was to do entirely by hand. My mother and her sisters washed, bleached, boiled, blued, hung and ironed all the clothes for their family of 11 siblings by hand. On the other side, Mom developed the strength of an ox...............
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Post# 6124-10/2/2001-07:55 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (Thank God for Mountain Spring Tide) MESSAGE: with optical brighteners.
I also heard that if you have blue towels, the blue rubs off and makes your whites look whiter. I have some blue and some white towels and they all come out clean but I'm not sure if that theory is actually working. I use Mountain spring Tide, Purex colorsafe bleach (it's blue also) and Downy softener for the colored clothes, not the towels.
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Post# 6125-10/2/2001-07:56 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (wringer washers) MESSAGE: See. I would like to try and use a wringer once. I've always wanted to wash the old school way. Not all the time but it would be cool to roll out a wringer and a wash tub and wash the old time way.
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Post# 6126-10/2/2001-08:24 ||| Daveuk (Livingston) SUBJECT:
RE: Question for Louis/chestermike MESSAGE: I can't say with certainty for Bosch or Ariston, but I can tell how quick washes work on Zanussi or older AEG machines.
My Zanussi, when I use quick wash, shortens each stage of the program - wash, rinse, and spins - it still does the same number of rinses.
My parents AEG 645 has a 'super quickwash' which shortens the wash cycle, and the spins and removes one of the rinses. As standard this would leave it as 2 rinses, but my parents have the extra rinse permanently switched on so a quick wash does three.
Washing in cold water? Doesn't much affect times on my machine (maybe only 5 minutes or so), then again it uses so little water that by the time it has filled the hot water will only be slightly warm anyway unless I've run the tap first. I usually use the 'heavy soil' option that makes the machine fill with cold anyway.
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Post# 6127-10/2/2001-08:27 ||| Daveuk (Livingston) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (Hi all) MESSAGE: Just found this place from THS, who else here is on there as well - I recognise a few names, but do some of you use different names?
Nice to know that I'm not the only person on the planet that's an appliance nut...
Dave
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Post# 6128-10/2/2001-08:42 ||| Daveuk (Livingston) SUBJECT:
RE: Sears saleswoman must be sniffing glue MESSAGE: I quite like some British Dep't stores, but some of them I hate.
And yeah, Mrs Slocombe and her pussy always got a laugh... been watching re-runs of it recently, i love uktv on cable :)
Back to what we were talking about... I usually find that most of the bigger chain stores are the worst for giving out misinformation, and pestering when you're looking round, the smaller stores tend to know more about what they are selling. I've had to bite my tongue several times when I've been shopping for things so as not to tell the salespeople that they're talking crap (no really, AEG dishwashers are not made by Whirlpool, Whirlpool tumble dryers are not made by Creda, etc.)
Dave
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Post# 6129-10/2/2001-09:03 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use (Calypso Suspension Must Still Be In Development) MESSAGE: I would bet that explains why the Calypso only spins at 800rpm tops. I bet they are still trying to work out the bus in the suspension system. Approx how fast does you're souped-up '65 Lady Kenmore spin at Jason? 700rpm?
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Post# 6130-10/2/2001-09:06 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use (My Weekend Visit to the Appliance Stores) MESSAGE: I think the Whirlpool Combo is slightly larger Mike, because it has a 29" diameter drum. Boy imagine how dry the clothes would be if the 1958 WP Combo could spin at 1200rpm. Of course the clothes would never come off the sides of the drum for the dry cycle at that speed. They would have to add some kind of mechanism to shake the drum so the plastered clothes would fall off of the sides.
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Post# 6131-10/2/2001-09:14 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use (My Weekend Visit to the Appliance Stores) MESSAGE: Hi Tom, the Miele's were not plugged in so I couldn't open the doors. But the Miele's drum did not look quite as large as the Hettie.
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Post# 6132-10/2/2001-10:03 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK) SUBJECT:
RE: Question for Louis/chestermike (Extra Rinse!!! Dont Get Me Started!!!*!*!*!*) MESSAGE: Hi Arrrooohhh
This Extra Rinse debate just keeps on running, with the newer machines using soooooooo little water, 50/60 Litres for a full cycle!!!!, manufacturers over here started to put "Extra Rinse"
buttons on machines because consumers where using the same ammount of concentrated detergent as the normal stuff, which resulted in lots of complaints to do with sensitive skin, white powder left in clothes if the tub was full and not enough turnover, and white bits of bleach`n`powder making holes in clothes.
On my TOL Whirlpool I have an extra rinse button which I prefer to use all the time, if I dont most of the washes have a lovely foam filled rubber seal at the end of spin, thats with using two small soap tablets, one doesnt clean enough.
This machine also has a quick wash button which qualifies for "trades description prosecution" as it does indeed cut the time down by a third but overides the extra rinse so you only get two clear rinses + conditioner rinse. It also cuts out the spin between rinses,
Only time I use cold wash is for 30d and delicates which is short gentle wash, because the machines use soooooo little water you have to have your hot water tank/boiler next to your machines in order to fill with hot, my combi boiler is about 10feet away and I open the hot tap at the sink to pull the hot water into the pipes and then turn the machine on.
So I`m still searching for my "Servis or Parnall Spin-Wash" semi-automatic Holy Grail machine with "Sudz Save" so I can fill, dial, add, take out, save water and pump back to my hearts content..........
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 6133-10/2/2001-10:09 ||| Daveuk (Livingston) SUBJECT:
RE: Question for Louis/chestermike (Extra Rinse!!! Dont Get Me Started!!!*!*!*!*) MESSAGE: I meant to say before that I always re-rinse clothes as I am apparently sensitive to the detergent, so my washing usually gets 4 or 5 rinses instead of the set 3. It was the same with my parents AEG, I had to re rinse things after the long final spin. No idea why. I wish some manufacturers would make machines which let you do 4 or 5 *deep* rinses , instead of 3 or 4 non deep ones. The best machines I have used for rinsing out things have been older ones, my other half's mothers 11 year old Zanussi, and my grans old AEG 981, both had deep rinses, and good spins between them.
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Post# 6134-10/2/2001-10:10 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (Welcome) MESSAGE: Hi Dave
Welcome to the club from me in Chester,England, nice to have another new member from over here, from your profile I take it youre not "UKDAVE" from Yahoo clubs in Brighton then???
Are you pleased with your Zanussi washer??
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 6135-10/2/2001-10:17 ||| HQOTS (Florida) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use (Calypso Suspension Must Still Be In Development) MESSAGE: It spins at either 710 or 725. John and I had it figured out once but I forgot what it was.
It does an amazing job providing the load is perfectly balanced. The suspension system was not designed for speeds that fast so if something as small as a sock or wash cloth is out of place you know it. The base plate will get this side to side motion going missing the OOB and start banging the cabinet.
That is one reason I am the only one who uses that machine.
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Post# 6136-10/2/2001-10:19 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use (My Weekend Visit to the Appliance Stores) MESSAGE: Hi Robert
But think how quick you`d get those jeans dry ready for the next night on the town!!!
Hotpoint started the trend over here for pulse spinning years ago, short bursts of spin with tumble in between to get rid of water at low revs then building up to 1400rpm for only 10 seconds but boy were those jeans dry and always fell to the bottom of the drum on finish, no sticking to the sides and creased.
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 6137-10/2/2001-10:31 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (Young One Indeed ) MESSAGE: Hi Tom
Over hear it was always referred to as "Dolly Blue" because the blue stuff was always wrapped in a little bag and sold, and travelling gypsies used to knock at your door to sell it, but they used to tie the little bag to the top end of a wooden clothes peg, which looked like a face, and dress it up to look like "A Dolly"...
There was also "Dolly Yellow" for "Creaming your Creams"
This was our treat at my grans on washday, she would pay a penny an item to catch the clothes coming out of her "Hotpoint Empress" wringer washer then we could swish the dolly blue or yellow in the sink for final rinse.
My gran used to work at the local "Blue Works" as it was known, it was knocked down early sixties while I was a babe in arms, when we were older she would take us out walking down Chapel lane, always with a paper bag and toy spade, she knew where to dig for blocks of "Blue" from where the factory was demolished, then we`d pop it in the bag take it home and wash the soil off to use....
Thanks for jogging the memory cells, Mike
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Post# 6138-10/2/2001-10:41 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use (fastest dry in town!) MESSAGE: Hey Mike!
I'm not sure off the top of my head the fastest spin, but the Wasco 18# pull about 91 G's and the Wasco 35# pull about 85 G's. Loads that come out of my old GE tops, while seemingly slow spinners, dry quicker than loads out of the Wascos.
No commercial machine really uses any jet spray technology. Some washers have an injection system thru the glass doors (Maytag/Primus and Unimac), but I don't understand the purpose they serve, since commercial machines are usually loaded to the gills, so the spray is ineffective in whatever it is they think it accomplishes.
-ph
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Post# 6139-10/2/2001-10:51 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA) SUBJECT:
RE: I think there is a LK Electronic dryer of 1978 on EBay MESSAGE: Harvest Gold! Stand back and watch Gansky bid and win!!!
-ph
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Post# 6140-10/2/2001-10:57 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (Bluehairs) MESSAGE: "Bluehairs" is a common slightly derogatory term used by my motorcycling friends to refer to elderly blue-white haired old ladies who drive large American sedans as if with blinders on, endangering anything nearby on two wheels.
I will make it my mission to determine the chemical composition of the blueing compounds... although I suspect any non-colorfast blue dye would do the trick. I don't think traditional bluing had "optical brighteners", though, as these are flourescent dyes that absorb UV light and re-emit in the blue visible range. Same net result as blueing, but without the risk of staining. I have a small bottle of liquid blueing at home somewhere. Can't remember the brand offhand, might be LaFrance.
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Post# 6141-10/2/2001-10:57 ||| appliguy (Vienna Va.) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (I remember my mom using bluing in the 1980's) MESSAGE: When I was little my mother used to use bluing in the 1963 Kenmore 70 we had at our summer home. We had really hard water and no water softener and I remember my mother used LaFrance Powdered Bluing and I used to love to watch the Roto Swirl agitator mix up the soap and bluing while making that gentle splooshing sound. I read previous posts saying the bluing got put it in rinse water but my mother put in the during the intial wash cycle with the detergent (which was always blue Cheer) and according to her it worked just wonderfully. I wonder why it supposedly made a difference if you used it in the first rinse versus the first wash. By the way the last time I was in the Foodland Supermarket near our summer home I do believe they still carried LaFrance bluing....I guess it must be a regional thing depending on whether you have hard water or not.
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Post# 6142-10/2/2001-11:07 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use (BOHCA) MESSAGE: Perhaps the husbands could start loading the FL's!
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Post# 6143-10/2/2001-11:08 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (Young me) MESSAGE: Thanks for the explanation of Blueing. It's not my fault I was born in 1970. I should've been born in 1950. Oh well, ain't nothing worse than a Gen-X'er trying to live in the past.
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Post# 6144-10/2/2001-11:09 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands) SUBJECT:
RE: 65 Lady K picts (What Is???) MESSAGE: I think it was in Illinois that we saw a washer and dryer set on the front porch.
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Post# 6145-10/2/2001-11:11 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (Bluehairs) MESSAGE: OK, what I have is Mrs. Stewart's. Here is her web page:
http://www.mrsstewart.com/pages/msbframe.htm
They are a bit vague about the actual composition, saying only that it's a blue iron compound. However I found another more definitive site, with the following quote:
"NOTE: Mrs. Stewart's bluing agent actually is a colloidal suspension of extremely minute blue particles of ferric ferrous cyanide, which is Fe2Fe3(CN)6. However, knowledge of this chemical composition is NOT necessary to explain the main aspects of what is going on in the formation of the magic crystals."
Since Mrs. Stewart is based in Minnesota, I figure Robert and Scott & Co. must have run across her in one of their estate sale weekends.
LINK: http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:t0tkCgUQTks:library.wustl.edu/units/epsc/EPSc352/labs/lab5.pdf+bluing+laundry+composition&hl=en
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Post# 6146-10/2/2001-11:15 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use (My Weekend Visit to the Appliance Stores) MESSAGE: Yes Mike, the 1800 rpm Miele is available here, both the model with the normal drum and the drum with the new developped drum.
I had a Philips toploader (AWB119PH) that looked a little like an American washer with it's upright controlpanel at the rear. Now I am so sorry I got rid of it, it was a very special machine because it started spinning with a full tub of water. The link goes to 2 pictures from the brochure.
Louis
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/vwp?.dir=/My+favourite+appliances&.dnm=Philips+washer+brochure.JPG&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 6147-10/2/2001-11:36 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (" Javell Water" ) MESSAGE: Hi Anthony;
I think the term "Aqua Lina" is the translation into Italian for "Javell Water". Aqua is water and Lina is Javell I think I'm not sure I only know a few words in Italian my Grandmother swithed to speaking Italian to her friends when she didn't want me to know what she was talking about usualy around Christmas or a family scandal. I started to learn a few words so she had to stop doing that (lol) Yes, I work for the NYPD, I'm not a cop, I'm the one you see first at the precinct when you want to make a complaint or when you call for a patrol car to respond to an incident. I work at night usually from 9pm to 5am. I read the posts then. I'm up early today. I'm very tired and just can't sleep very well these days, alot of overtime, just cannot rest. I live in Williamsburg Brooklyn, in the Italian/spanish section. I wanted to know if you remeber "Super Suds" we never used it was to cheap and made too much suds for my Grandmother. I always saw it in the grocery store here, we always used powdered ALL (with bleach, borax, and brightners) or sometimes DASH (red box) before it went lemon scented. We were low suds family all the way. No suds locks for us!
"Brooklyn Robert"
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Post# 6148-10/2/2001-11:38 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (What is blueing?) MESSAGE: It's like a tint that is added either in wash water or the rinse that will make the white clothes appear more whiter.
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Post# 6149-10/2/2001-12:36 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.) SUBJECT:
RE: I think there is a LK Electronic dryer of 1978 on EBay MESSAGE: PeterH770:
I just went on "E-Bay" and checked out the dryer in question just now. And you had hit this one head on. This is in fact a Lady Kenmore "Electronic" dryer. And it appears to be the 1978 model. The 1979-85 models did not have any "flip up/down" toggle switches on them. Only the 1978 model had this type of switch on it at the beginning of the control panel. It will be my luck that someone on this club will end up with this gorgeous dryer. It appears to be in top condition.
--Charles--
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Post# 6150-10/2/2001-13:10 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (Bluehairs) MESSAGE: I've seen hundreds of bottles of this stuff at the sales.
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Post# 6151-10/2/2001-14:02 ||| appnut (Temple, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: Sears saleswoman must be sniffing glue (Mrs. Bucket) MESSAGE: Keeping Up Appearances is a big hit over here.
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Post# 6152-10/2/2001-14:06 ||| appnut (Temple, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (Hi all) MESSAGE: Dave, I use boba at THS, appnut here.
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Post# 6153-10/2/2001-15:47 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use (My Weekend Visit to the Appliance Stores) MESSAGE: Hi Louis
Thanks for the link, that took me back to the good days of Philips washers, I started work for Philips Domestic Appliances in the 80`s.The best selling line was the AWB098 A/Wash variable time/temperature/spinspeed/ half load & econmy options.
Philips where the only machines around that did start to spin full of water, low revs to gently distribute the clothes evenly against the drum side, had a polypropelene drum 10yr guarantee, and a Permenant Magnet Motor (Permag)again 10yr guarantee.
Also had a narrow depth with a very wide drum, this was pushed as extra spin efficiency etc,
Like the look of the Miele Honycombe drum, Servis tried something radically different in the 80`s, "Spin-Care" drum no holes, ran for 5 yrs then was replaced with a chevron drum holes in a chevron pattern, not all over, then all was lost when the old company folded and the new machines are all cheapo italiano.
Mike
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Post# 6154-10/2/2001-15:49 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (Enjoy) MESSAGE: Hi Jason
Just enjoy the age you are and always remember at least you can visit the past through us without feeling it!! LOL
Mike
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Post# 6155-10/2/2001-15:50 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use (waiting in line) MESSAGE: Jason,
Sounds like you have to keep an adoring mass away from your machines!
-ph
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Post# 6156-10/2/2001-16:16 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (Hi all) MESSAGE: Hello Dave, I thought you were a member of the Yahoo club too. Anyway, welcome to the club!
Louis
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Post# 6157-10/2/2001-16:21 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands) SUBJECT:
RE: Question for Louis/chestermike MESSAGE: I don't know about the extra rinse. And to be honest I don't feel the need to know anything about the Ariston LOL.
Washing in cold water shortens the cycle a little because the water doesn't need to be heated. Only Miele guarantees the same cycle length on all temperatures.
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Post# 6158-10/2/2001-16:27 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (Welcome) MESSAGE: Silly me should have checked the profiles!
I recently discovered that the new Zanussi toploader looks on the inside exactly as an AEG toploader!!
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Post# 6159-10/2/2001-16:34 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use (My Weekend Visit to the Appliance Stores) MESSAGE: For that time Philips washers were really modern machines. Just a little noisy especially during washing.
I was a member of a group of consumers that tested appliances for Philips, it was for the small domestic appliances and personal care division. I quite enjoyed that.
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Post# 6160-10/2/2001-16:36 ||| Peteski50 (New York) SUBJECT:
Update Screen Saver MESSAGE: I wanted to update the screen saver to a 1/18 (my favorate)
washer. I am happy to see the club is moving along and everyone is hanging in.
JetAction to everyone,
Peter
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Post# 6161-10/2/2001-16:38 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands) SUBJECT:
New backgrounds MESSAGE: I really like those new backgrounds, thank you Robert for putting them up. I guess I have to test a few of them.
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Post# 6162-10/2/2001-16:40 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: New backgrounds MESSAGE: How funny Luigi, I just independently selected the same one
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Post# 6163-10/2/2001-16:43 ||| Peteski50 (New York) SUBJECT:
RE: New backgrounds (Thank you Robert ) MESSAGE: Yes Thank you Robert for the backgrounds
I also love this 1/18 because my Aunt had the same one in poppy
Peter
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Post# 6164-10/2/2001-16:55 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: New backgrounds (Thank you Robert ) MESSAGE: Yes, and it's another opportunity for Greg to view a harvest gold Frigidaire. His FAVORITE!!! LOL
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Post# 6165-10/2/2001-16:57 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (Bluehairs) MESSAGE: Perhaps the term bluehairs is slightly derogatory - but we here in New England use it in an affectionate manner. Hope no one was offended................
As for the composition of the bluing - like I said, I am no chemist......... but I think we answered the question satisfactorily anyway.
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Post# 6166-10/2/2001-16:59 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (I remember my mom using bluing in the 1980's) MESSAGE: Yes, the Lafrance brand was indeed made to be added to the wash - it was packaged as bluing and brightener. The other products - Bleachette solid and Bluette liquid were made to be added specifically to the rinse water. LaFrance probably contained some sudsing agents making it unsuitable for the rinse cycle........
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Post# 6167-10/2/2001-17:00 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (Young me) MESSAGE: I don't know - - -I kind of like the past........
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Post# 6168-10/2/2001-17:06 ||| Angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
Screen Savers - Thanks Robert MESSAGE: What a coincidence - easy to see what our favorite machines really are!!!! Thanks Robert.
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Post# 6169-10/2/2001-17:08 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (the past) MESSAGE: I love the past. I want to live in the 50s but unfortunately I'm stuck in the 2000s.
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Post# 6170-10/2/2001-17:11 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA) SUBJECT:
cool backgrounds MESSAGE: Let's see if this works.
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Post# 6171-10/2/2001-17:12 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA) SUBJECT:
RE: cool backgrounds (YAY! Roto-swirl!) MESSAGE: The agitator of the Kenmore 800. memories :)
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Post# 6172-10/2/2001-17:14 ||| Angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member MESSAGE: Hey Robert - - You know I am going to be either really stubborn or really deranged and tell you that I am almost 100%sure that there was actually an "Aqua Lina" brand - and I can even remember a label design. OK - OK time to medicate me probably, but I wish I had someone to ask. Unfortunatley my mother, the only one of her remaining sisters, died a few months ago, so there goes that idea. I am quite familiar with Williamsburg - my Aunt Nettie lived on Maujer St. - between Graham and Grand. And yes, I do remember SuperSuds (Colgate's bargain brand)- we never used it though - way too much suds for my mother - She was a big Dash fan.(red box and concentrated only!!). She did admit though that she didn't like the way Dash washed all that much but she liked the low suds - She did eventually cave in to the charms of Cheer's exclusive "blue magic whitener" - and the rest is history!!!!!
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Post# 6173-10/2/2001-17:16 ||| Chestermikeuk (Chester, UK) SUBJECT:
RE: cool backgrounds MESSAGE: Just checking this one too!!
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Post# 6174-10/2/2001-17:25 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: cool backgrounds MESSAGE: All the backgrounds are just tooooo spiffy!
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Post# 6175-10/2/2001-18:04 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK) SUBJECT:
RE: cool backgrounds MESSAGE: Hi Glen
How are you doin, still at work, just gone midnight here,
Whats the meaning of "Spiffy" in El Campo then
Mike
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Post# 6176-10/2/2001-18:38 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: cool backgrounds MESSAGE: Hey, Mikey!
How're the SweeperVac and Electrolux doing? Got your arm stuck in any more Dysons lately? 8-)
As I click the Post button, the clock here is just ticking across 6:38 p.m. I'm finishing up the "daytime" job, and heading to the "nighttime" job.
Spiffy = excellent, exciting, fun, etc.
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Post# 6177-10/2/2001-18:42 ||| DaveUK (Livingston) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (duplicate names!) MESSAGE: Heh, I guess I should have chosen a different name... but I'm definitely not this other person who's in Brighton, I'm about 500 miles away.
Louis - which new toploader is that? The only one I think we have over here is the topload version of my washer, which has been around a few years. Whether that means AEG are using Zanussi internals, or vice versa I don't know.
Mike - yeah I like my Zanussi, it's a good machine. I can think of improvements (like being able to program extra rinses, or higher water), but it washes really well and it's pretty quiet compared to some.
Dave
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Post# 6178-10/2/2001-18:51 ||| DaveUK (Livingston) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use (My Weekend Visit to the Appliance Stores) MESSAGE: I had an old Philips front loader in a flat I rented, I think it was an AWB092 (or something like that), I quite liked it actually. My aunt also had one, that I think was probably the one you described, but after quite a while of service it's suspension collapsed and flooded her utility area and it then got replaced with an AEG.
Louis, those top loaders look like they were probably a newer range than a machine my gran had a while back, I think she bought it in the mid 70's, was a TL machine, white with silver and blue control panel. I had great fun with that when I was young. I remember having to fish washing out of the bottom of it with a pair of cooking tongs as I couldn't reach!!!
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Post# 6179-10/2/2001-18:52 ||| Golittlesport (California) SUBJECT:
new wallpaper MESSAGE: yay! what fun
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Post# 6180-10/2/2001-19:17 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE) SUBJECT:
RE: New backgrounds (Thank you Robert ) MESSAGE: It's no accident that the wallpaper 1-18 washer is harvest gold - that's apparently the only color they came in! ;-)
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Post# 6181-10/2/2001-19:23 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE) SUBJECT:
RE: I think there is a LK Electronic dryer of 1978 on EBay MESSAGE: I should have painted the new laundry room orange!
Please everyone, feel free to bid on the dryer if it strikes your fancy - too new for me and then there's that whole color issue...
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Post# 6182-10/2/2001-20:00 ||| DaveUK (Livingston) SUBJECT:
Antiques on ebay... MESSAGE: Found a few things on ebay...
this being one... I'll post the direct link to the list below, and hope it works... Fingers crossed...
Dave
LINK: http://cq-search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&ht=1&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&query=washing+machine&ebaytag1code=3&shortcut=3&maxRecordsReturned=300&maxRecordsPerPage=50&SortProperty=MetaEndSort
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Post# 6183-10/2/2001-20:06 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) SUBJECT:
RE: New backgrounds (I'm glad you're enjoying them) MESSAGE: My pleasure you guys, I'm glad you're enjoying them. It's so much fun to have a web site that is changing relatively often as opposed to the same old thing, day-in day-out, like we had with yahoo and so many other sites I've seen.
I just received some new design such as Macromedia Dreamweaver 4 (a web design tool), Fireworks 5 (high-end graphics tool), and Flash 5 (really cool animation program). I also picked up Adobe Preimier for editing the washer videos and commercials. I plan on upgrading our site quite a bit through the coming winter.
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Post# 6184-10/2/2001-20:09 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) SUBJECT:
RE: cool backgrounds MESSAGE: Those vacs are still on their way. Unfortunately I think the two are stuck somewhere in the middle of the Atlantic. We're just hoping there not at the bottom of the Atlantic.
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Post# 6185-10/2/2001-20:10 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) SUBJECT:
RE: new wallpaper MESSAGE: We'll I thought for sure you would pick this one Rich.
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Post# 6186-10/2/2001-20:19 ||| DaveUK (Livingston) SUBJECT:
RE: Antiques on ebay... MESSAGE: I meant to say before, that a lot of the items on that ebay link are either adverts, instructions, toys or even a vintage Maytag plate. Only a couple of actual washers
Dave
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Post# 6187-10/2/2001-20:46 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA) SUBJECT:
Hi everyone I'm back! MESSAGE: Yes I got my new computer today and am testing it out tonight. I have had withdrawal from washer land and am under heavy sedation to overcome it. Now I can throw my pills away!
jet
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Post# 6188-10/2/2001-21:09 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) SUBJECT:
RE: Hi everyone I'm back! MESSAGE: Welcome back Jon!
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Post# 6189-10/2/2001-21:17 ||| peteski50 (New York) SUBJECT:
RE: Hi everyone I'm back! (New Computer ) MESSAGE: Hi Jon
I just got a new computer also. I am trying to learn to load down pictures. I created a web address but it doesn't seem to work. I had taken pictures when I went to John & Tom's in May. I also put in a new kitchen while you guys had the convention and I want to display that stuff also. I have so much stuff here that I am so overwhelmed and don't what to do first. Well anyway I hope to get some time this weekend and maybe someone can direct me as to how to load the pics.
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Post# 6190-10/2/2001-21:40 ||| Lenny (Northeastern Pennsylvania, USA) SUBJECT:
Whirlpool Duet MESSAGE: I have'nt yet seen any Whirlpool 'DUET's', the HEt3's Whirlpool clone. Is this available yet? Its not on the Whirlpool USA website yet. Im already trying to figure out how I can make room for yet another addition to my 'washer family'. I think the Whirlpool 'Duet' should be an excellent machine, I like the 'blue' look. Lenny
PS: Where did Whirlpool/Kenmore come up with the name 'NUTATE' for it's Calypso agitation action? Any ideas???
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Post# 6191-10/2/2001-21:43 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE) SUBJECT:
RE: Hi everyone I'm back! MESSAGE: Woo hoo!! Welcome back, missed you here!
Greg
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Post# 6192-10/2/2001-21:45 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE) SUBJECT:
RE: new wallpaper MESSAGE: I noticed and found only a few of them yesterday when I noticed your dishwasher wallpaper -
who knew there were even more now - who knew!
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Post# 6193-10/2/2001-22:00 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA) SUBJECT:
1971 Whirlpool Wringer washer (huh?) MESSAGE: Item # 1279988831 on Ebay.
They made wringers in the 70s? The agitator tells all because that's a 70s agitator. I thought they stopped making wringers way before that.
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Post# 6194-10/2/2001-22:01 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (Hi Dave!) MESSAGE: Welcome to the club. I have seen your name on THS but thought you were UK Dave on the Yahoo Hoover club.
Welcome ! Its nice to have some more people who wer born in the 70's too!
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Post# 6195-10/2/2001-22:48 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member MESSAGE: Hi Anthony;
WOW you know my neighborhood well! I live on Metroploitan Ave. which is about two blocks from Graham Avenue and three blocks from Grand Street. What a small world. The subway stop on the "L" line is Graham Avenue. I don't remember a brand call Aqua Lina, unless it was "The Javell Water Man's homemade brand" (lol). I remeber all the crazy bottles it would come most were clear glass gallon jugs with a white labels our brand was called "New Way Bleach" which is now like the store brands or off brands they have now. It had a funny yellowish/ green color, I liked the way it smelled. I still like the way bleach smells today. I remember my grandmother would never measure she would take the gallon and pour it in as the washer began to fill (before she put the clothes or soap) about three times around the agitator was her exact measurement. (lol) We had a "Thor" semi automatic then it was in the kitchen near the sink. My job was to make sure the drain hose stayed in the sink when the washer was spinning off the water. I always wondered why some washer manufactures use 1/2" drain hoses they move around alot with force of the water and had to be held down. This might be a good question for the club members.
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Post# 6196-10/2/2001-23:08 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: 1971 Whirlpool Wringer washer (huh?) MESSAGE: Wow! Check out the Whirlpool logo, it's pretty modern-looking as well.
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Post# 6197-10/2/2001-23:22 ||| appnut (Temple, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: Hi everyone I'm back! MESSAGE: Gee, I'll have to get immmersed by an energy ring and see if that will allow me to throw my pills away!! Hmm
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Post# 6198-10/2/2001-23:25 ||| appnut (Temple, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Duet MESSAGE: Lenny, I got the latest CR today (for what it's worth) and they said the HE3t topped every one of their charts in performance & set new standards for all other machines to achieve.
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Post# 6199-10/2/2001-23:29 ||| appnut (Temple, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: Hi everyone I'm back! MESSAGE: Well Jon, we all knew you'd never be totally washed out of the club--just an extended soak until the computer got hooked up again. Now you'll have to do an express wash to get caught up.
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Post# 6200-10/2/2001-23:30 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York) SUBJECT:
Drain Hose Question MESSAGE: Does anyone know why 1/2" drain hoses were used on most vintage machines 1950's - 1970's) (Thor, Hotpoint, G.E., Frig., Norge, Philco, Westinghouse F/L.etc.) I think the only mfgs. who used a 1" drain hose was (Maytag, Whirlpool, Kenmore, Speed Queen).
I never understood why they did that, unless it had something to do with the neutral drain v/s throwing water, speed queen and maytag use the 1" drain hose and never did a neutral darin. Very hard to figure out. The force of the water would push the 1/2" drain hose up and out of the sink or stand pipe while draining and wind up on the floor make a flood. My B/D Whirlpools have a 1" rubber hose that does move some, when it goes from fill to wash, the pump has to swing from darin phase to fliter a it spits a little water that makes the hose move a some. I think most machines today except for the Maytag Neptune, all have the 1" corrugated white or black plastic drain hose that remind me of those flexible drinking straws.
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Post# 6201-10/2/2001-23:31 ||| appnut (Temple, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: new wallpaper MESSAGE: Robert, maybe you should do a combination of the westy & the 55 Frigidaire just for Rich.
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Post# 6202-10/2/2001-23:33 ||| Golittlesport (California) SUBJECT:
RE: new wallpaper MESSAGE: Oh my gosh! I missed this one! How could I have done that? Nana must be rolling over in her grave.
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Post# 6203-10/2/2001-00:08 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: new wallpaper MESSAGE: Hiya, Rich! Haven't seen much posting from you recently, hope you and Gary have been well.
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Post# 6204-10/2/2001-00:24 ||| HQOTS (Florida) SUBJECT:
Finally together! MESSAGE: Scroll to the bottom of the page.
LINK: http://web.tampabay.rr.com/jasonspages/65dryer.html
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Post# 6205-10/2/2001-01:04 ||| HQOTS (Florida) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use (waiting in line) MESSAGE: No, it's just that some have no concept of how to use a machine or what different noises mean or how to correct a problem. Most people would let the machine bang around simply because they are too daft or lazy to go rearange the load of clothes.
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Post# 6206-10/3/2001-02:31 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK) SUBJECT:
RE: Hi everyone I'm back! MESSAGE: Hi John
Good to hear from you, the only good computer advice from me is keep your Firewall & Viruscan up and never take advice from Microsoft!!!
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 6207-10/3/2001-02:35 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (duplicate names!) MESSAGE: Hi Dave
Just to re-energize the geography cells, which Livingston exactly??
The Philips machine models when I sold them were AWB082, 096 & 098, cant remember the TL.
Cheers,Mike
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Post# 6208-10/3/2001-04:43 ||| trainguy (Southwestern Pennsylvania) SUBJECT:
RE: Finally together! (Congrats!) MESSAGE: They look great together.
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Post# 6209-10/3/2001-05:52 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana) SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Duet MESSAGE: I seen the new Whirlpools last nite at a local store here. We were looking for somewere to go to show off the new truck so we decided to go to the appliance store to get a printer cartridge. They had it sitting on its pedistals in plain view as you walked in the front door. They also had the duet. I opened them up and looked at them and pushed bottons but they were not pluged in. It seems like if they were stacked the dryer controls would be a little out of reach for some. Im sure with that large window on it wash day would be fun to watch.
SD
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Post# 6210-10/3/2001-05:52 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (What is blueing?) MESSAGE: Anthony, My mom was the oldest of 9 kids. When I was less than 5, I remember the white Maytag Master with the square aluminum tub at her parents. I asked her a few years ago when they got that and she said it was after she and a few of the older ones were working at paying jobs that they bought the machine, so for years, the laundry was done by hand and her father worked in the iron range of Minnesota. It is indeed staggering to think about. Tom
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Post# 6211-10/3/2001-05:55 ||| appnut (Temple, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: Finally together! (Congrats) MESSAGE: Jason, a sassy, sexy lookin' pair that were made for each other. Glad to see them reunited.
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Post# 6212-10/3/2001-05:59 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: Question for Louis/chestermike (Quick wash) MESSAGE: On my Creda, quick wash is the last setting in the synthetics cycle. It does not heat wash water, but goes through the three rinses on that program. The cycle has an interesting cool down after the wash drain. Water comes in and when it trips the pressure switch, the pump comes on. While the machine is draining, the tub makes maybe a quarter turn, then the pump shuts off and the water level starts rising again. This is repeated a few times before the first deep rinse. I guess this is why the synthetics cycle gives just 3 deep rinses while the regular cycle gives 4.
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Post# 6213-10/3/2001-06:04 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use (My Weekend Visit to the Appliance Stores) MESSAGE: Robert, all you have to do is use something like a putty knife to pry open the little plastic door at the bottom left and pull the white plastic ring to release the door. TT
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Post# 6214-10/3/2001-06:09 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use (fastest dry in town!) MESSAGE: Peter, when Milnor introduced this concept of filling thru the door decades ago, it was to give a faster wetting down of the load, they said, than the usual filling into the outer cylinder. TT
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Post# 6215-10/3/2001-06:11 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (Bluehairs) MESSAGE: I meant that optical brighteners had replaced what bluing did, not that old fashion bluing had them. TT
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Post# 6216-10/3/2001-06:15 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (I remember my mom using bluing in the 1980's) MESSAGE: Powdered bluing went into the wash, liquid into the wash or rinse. There was a danger that the powder would not dissolve in the cooler rinse water, plus the powdered stuff usually was more than just bluing. And you always bleached before you blued since bleach took out bluing as stated on the packages and in washer manuals. TT
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Post# 6217-10/3/2001-06:28 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: Hi everyone I'm back! MESSAGE: Welcome back to you and AL. Tom
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Post# 6218-10/3/2001-06:32 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Duet MESSAGE: Nutate is an actual word that is in the dictionary. It means to exhibit nutation which is defined among other things as the wobbling of a top or the nodding of the head.
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Post# 6219-10/3/2001-06:36 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use (waiting in line) MESSAGE: I'm gonna tell him the exact words you used! TT
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Post# 6220-10/3/2001-06:39 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Duet MESSAGE: I saw the same CR - interesting they had the usual caveat though - about it being a new model, so no data on reliability. Also, they said that the dryer was effective but only with clothes washed in the ht3 washer. Like to hear more about that.....................
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Post# 6221-10/3/2001-06:43 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
WP Duet MESSAGE: John called with some exciting news yesterday afternoon. Friday, October 12, we are scheduled for service training on the new FL. What makes this really neat is that Jason will be up here and can go to training with us. I am so exicted about this. We should have my new pooter and stuff hooked up so we can share information rapidamente, como se dice. YAY!
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Post# 6222-10/3/2001-06:52 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (What is blueing?) MESSAGE: TT - funny how people are so much alike - whether in Minnesota or Brooklyn. My mom also told how she and her sisters finally scratched enough money together from their jobs to buy their mother a Bendix. But Grandma, being who she was, used it only a few times and then had them send it back. She said the clothes weren"t clean enough and even after rinsing twice, the clothes still had "scum" left in them! I guess my grandfather built that concrete pedestal in the kitchen for nothing. So, it was back to washboards, and boiling by hand............... As an aside, she would check the rinse water and the "girls" had to keep changing the water until it was perfectly clear. Then and only then could they blue the clothes... You know people hear that my mother grew up in Brooklyn and thought it was like living in a Manhattan penthouse - but she worked harder than most farm women. The laundry alone was enough to put one under - then add housework, cooking, bread baking, summer preserving, and a full time job since she was 14 and that was one hard life. But she had something you dontsee much of anymore - tremendous physical strength, remarkable endurance and dedication to doing things compeltely and correctly - she would have been very dangerous with a formal education................
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Post# 6223-10/3/2001-06:54 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) SUBJECT:
RE: Drain Hose Question (The Rush to Pump) MESSAGE: It probably has to do with the fact that most vintage solid tub machines didn't need to have as strong pumps as perforated machines. The Unimatic has a relatively weak pump because there really is no rush to get the water pumped out of the machine since, like most other solid tub machines, it can spin at 1140 with a full tub of water thrown out of the spin tub and into the outer tub or cabinet.
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Post# 6224-10/3/2001-06:57 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) SUBJECT:
RE: Finally together! (The're beautiful!) MESSAGE: YAY, we'll have to do a special museum page just for washer-dryer pairs.
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Post# 6225-10/3/2001-07:00 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use (My Weekend Visit to the Appliance Stores) MESSAGE: Thanks Tom, I didn't know that. I can see me in the appliance store now yelling over to the sales person, "hey you, got a putty knife on ya".
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Post# 6226-10/3/2001-07:07 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Duet MESSAGE: That's interesting. It looks like the same old Whirlpool dryer design, but repackaged into a new dryer cabinet. I did notice that they changed they airflow pattern of their dryers from front to back. That's the first time I've seen this, but for all I know that has been done for years. After all, coppertone and avacado haven't even been introduced yet.
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Post# 6227-10/3/2001-07:23 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Duet MESSAGE: Robert, all the WP built 27" dryers have the back to front air flow. Only the 29" machines still have the back left to back right air flow. Oh, by the way, did you get to see Bea Arthur's show at the Guthrie when she was there? We saw her last night and it was a wonderful evening. Boy, do her fans really love her! Tom
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Post# 6228-10/3/2001-07:48 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use (souped up Kenmore) MESSAGE: I must have missed some posts but how did you get your Kenmore to go 710rpm?
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Post# 6229-10/3/2001-08:14 ||| appnut (Temple, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: WP Duet MESSAGE: Tomas, quero todo informacion con Duet a HE3t para tu ojos y tu intelecto Tienes mucho habilitacion a comprender variedades. Pero un significante esta mancilla
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Post# 6230-10/3/2001-08:15 ||| appnut (Temple, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: WP Duet MESSAGE: Tomas, quero todo informacion con Duet a HE3t para tu ojos y tu intelecto Tienes mucho habilitacion a comprender variedades. Pero un significante esta mancilla tratamiento
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Post# 6231-10/3/2001-09:04 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA) SUBJECT:
RE: Finally together! MESSAGE: I LOVE it when pairs are together! Looks wonderful, Jason!!!
Is that a different lid on the washer? Newer?
Can the florescent light lenses be replaced? It appears the washer had the light lit a bit more than the dryer...
-ph
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Post# 6232-10/3/2001-09:46 ||| HQOTS (Florida) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use (souped up Kenmore) MESSAGE: Larger motor pulley.
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Post# 6233-10/3/2001-09:49 ||| HQOTS (Florida) SUBJECT:
RE: Finally together! MESSAGE: Thanks Peter and everyone else!!
The lens can be replaced providing I can find one. I would really prefer the entire control panel. It's had some use and it shows.
The lid is original as is the top itself.
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Post# 6234-10/3/2001-10:10 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (childhood detergents) MESSAGE: The earliest I remember is Instant Fels and ALL. When the super concentrated liquids hit the sceen, we switched to Era. We had the big orange gallon bottle sitting on the side of the washer, so we just had to do to pumps/squirts into the machine and we were done. To this day, I really don't like the smell of Era! Between Era, regular Gain, and Mountain Fresh Tide, P&G gets my vote for the pewy-stinkiest brands around! (just my opinion, boys, don't all jump on me at once)
-ph
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Post# 6235-10/3/2001-10:31 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Duet MESSAGE: Hi Tom, no I didn't get to see Bea's show, but I really wanted to as I just love her! She reminds me a lot of my grandmother on my father's side.
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Post# 6236-10/3/2001-10:38 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (childhood detergents) MESSAGE: ph - can't say I disagree with you on that one. P&G has certainly done their best to create a line of detergents that you can smell from 5 miles away and each more offensive than the next. I must say that Gain is the worst offender (any formula) as is any flavor of Tide liquid, and regular Cheer powder (after 1988) and Bold, well you get the idea........ Maybe since detergents don't clean as well as they did in the days of (gasp!) phosphates, manufacturers feel the need to conjure up stronger and stronger fragrances to mask the odor of leftover body oils, etc..... But I guess it is like anything else - the 80's saw the era of horrible, smothering perfumes - Giorgio, Poison, Eternity - - need I go on? Even fashion was complete excess then - every woman wanted to be Joan Collins as Alexis Carrington and every guy wnated to be Larry Hagman as JR Ewing. I don't think we ever recovered from that noxious excess.......
And, b/t/w, Colgate has given us some pretty strong fragrances also - have you experienced any FAB or Dynamo (what a joke!!!)lately? And of course Lever has provided some very strong Wisk versions as well as all of the Surf flavors and of course, the "Double bleaching All"....... You know, all that said, Instant Fels (soap version only) is starting to sound better and better!!!!!
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Post# 6237-10/3/2001-10:52 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (Ad-It???) MESSAGE: Does anyone remember the laundry detergent Ad-It? I'm not sure if it was related in anyway to AD or if it was just marketed in the New York Metropolitan Area. It was a short lived liquid detergent in the early 70's that was packaged in a plastic, washing machine shaped container. The packages were available in four colors-- white, avacado, harvest gold and coppertone. I remember my mother saving a bunch of them for me to play with and at one point I had all four colors.
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Post# 6238-10/3/2001-11:15 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (Ad-It???) MESSAGE: Robert - I do, in fact remember seeing "Ad-It". It was not related to Colgate's AD, which by the 1970's had disappeared anyway. And unless I miss my guess it was not very popular. Not every supermarket carried it and ultimately did not last very long either - at least not here in the Northeast. Perhaps the unusual shape of the packaging screwed up supermarkets' shelf plans - I am sure the stores hated that. Around here they would pack the boxes so tight you couldn't even pry them loose for a test sniff............
I wonder if it was one of those short lived brands that all these weird chemical companies started producing during the great "phosphate scare". Can you ever forget that genre of detergents that did absolutely nothing, cost twice as much as Cheer, etc... but carried very virtuous names like "Ecolo-G", "PFD" (Pollution Free Detergent), "Phos-Free", "Bright-Water"? Ridiculous!!!!! That was almost as bad as "Fab 1 shot" - the combination detergent and fabric softener packets that stayed with the clothes from the washer through the dryer - it didn't clean, didn't soften and that product lasted all of about 5 minutes.............
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Post# 6239-10/3/2001-11:47 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (Fab One-Shot) MESSAGE: OMG! I do remember that now.
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Post# 6240-10/3/2001-11:48 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands) SUBJECT:
RE: New backgrounds MESSAGE: It's nice to have a matching set!!
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Post# 6241-10/3/2001-11:50 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands) SUBJECT:
RE: New backgrounds (Thank you Robert ) MESSAGE: If I were you I'd start hiding my braces, Greg might give you a big slap! LOL
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Post# 6242-10/3/2001-11:50 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (Fab One-Shot) MESSAGE: Interesting.
LINK: http://www.sbaer.uca.edu/Research/1995/SMA/95swa358.htm
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Post# 6243-10/3/2001-11:56 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX) SUBJECT:
Happi.com MESSAGE: And another interesting bunch of articles.
LINK: http://www.happi.com/special.htm
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Post# 6244-10/3/2001-12:03 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (the past) MESSAGE: I like the time we are living in very much, but I think we should have conserved a few more things.
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Post# 6245-10/3/2001-12:12 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (Living in the 50s) MESSAGE: Yeah, I could be married and have 3 kids and oh yeah.. A torquoise 1958 Fridigaire Unimatic set. Problem is, I'd be fighting with my wife over who gets to play with the washer this week.
"It's my turn!"
"But, dear, I want to watch the agitator go up and down"
"Wait till tonight ;-) "
Oh behave
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Post# 6246-10/3/2001-12:19 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (duplicate names!) MESSAGE: Dave,
I don't know the model number, but in the shops here is a new toploader with a new design of the control panel. The timer is still mechanical. It's not on the Zanussi website yet. The model you mentioned, does it have the dispensers on the bottom of the lid?
Louis
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Post# 6247-10/3/2001-12:23 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use (My Weekend Visit to the Appliance Stores) MESSAGE: Yes, these Philips toploaers had really narrow but deep drums. Through the years I have seen quite a few models. Did your gran's also have a separate temperature control?
Before Philips came out with a series with the control on top they produced lots of toploaders with the controls on the front. I believe toploaders were the only thing they made, I can't remember a frontloader in those years. I think those toploaders were produced in the seventies. Most of them had a glass lid. Unfortunately I never found a picture of those washers.
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Post# 6248-10/3/2001-12:33 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands) SUBJECT:
RE: Hi everyone I'm back! MESSAGE: Welcome back, we missed you!
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Post# 6249-10/3/2001-12:48 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands) SUBJECT:
RE: Finally together! MESSAGE: Cool set Jason. I love matching sets. Louis
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Post# 6250-10/3/2001-12:54 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands) SUBJECT:
RE: Question for Louis/chestermike (Quick wash) MESSAGE: That's a true European frontloader cool down. My AEG and Miele have similar cool downs. Difference between the Miele and the AEG is that the Miele fills several times and the AEG only once.
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Post# 6251-10/3/2001-12:56 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use (My Weekend Visit to the Appliance Stores) MESSAGE: Some Mieles have a plastic knife for that under the dispenser drawer.
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Post# 6252-10/3/2001-13:05 ||| golittlesport (California) SUBJECT:
RE: new wallpaper MESSAGE: Hi Glen! We are all fine here, thanks! We have been very busy...a bit more than usual. September brought many out of town guests our way. I have been managing to keep up on the posts, but haven't had the time to reply and throw in my 2-cents worth.
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Post# 6253-10/3/2001-13:11 ||| golittlesport (California) SUBJECT:
RE: WP Duet (Duet training) MESSAGE: Hi Tom! What a fun outing that sounds like. You guys have a blast! I can't wait to hear your comments afterwards...give us the scoop!
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Post# 6254-10/3/2001-13:12 ||| daveuk (Livingston) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use (My Weekend Visit to the Appliance Stores) MESSAGE: It had (if I remember right) 2 dials - 1 to select where the wash cycle started, and 1 to select what program and temperature you wanted. It also had 2 buttons, one to open the lid and one for spin delay. I always quite liked the machine.
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Post# 6255-10/3/2001-13:20 ||| daveuk (Livingston) SUBJECT:
RE: Question for Louis/chestermike (Quick wash) MESSAGE: I've only ever seen Hotpoints/Credas doing the fill/drain/fill/drain type of cool down. The others I've seen have filled up, some not much and some a lot
Dave
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Post# 6256-10/3/2001-13:25 ||| daveuk (Livingston) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use (My Weekend Visit to the Appliance Stores) MESSAGE: I also meant to say that I remember my parents short lived Electra 1100 (rebadged Creda) also started spinning when it had a drum full of water, but this time it was obviously a fault - I don't think anyone could convince me that Creda had designed a machine to go from 0-1100 while full of water and with no distribution. Eventually the electricity board gave us money towards a new machine, after about 4 years of constant repairs.
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Post# 6257-10/3/2001-13:25 ||| golittlesport (California) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (hand-washed laundry) MESSAGE: Interesting to hear the stories of laundry in days gone by. My mom's family always had washing machines (in fact her mom got a new one every 5 years or so to keep up with the latest developments. Her 55 Frigidaire was her third automatic, following a 48 Whirlpool and a 52 Norge. The 55 Frigidaire was with her for 20 years. She kept an Easy spin-drier as a second machine.)
My dad however was in a family of nine kids. I remember him relating how his mom baked all her own bread, canned fruits and vegtables, and washed clothes by hand. In the early 40's, when her older sons were working, they bought her an ABC wringer washer. In the early fifties, they bought her an Apex "spiral dasher" wringer washer. She used both machines...one to wash, the other to rinse and hung the clothes on the line. She never owned a dryer. But by this time most of the kids were on their own. (Where were the machines when she needed them?!) The worst thing was they only had one bathroom for 12 people in the house!!!
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Post# 6258-10/3/2001-13:28 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (laundromat favorites smell like...) MESSAGE: Angus,
When you own a laundromat and your customer get 4 or more machines running at once, you can't help but get strong opinions of what smells good and what you find offensive. Gain, being the low price P&G leader is very popular, so that scent is just stuck in my mind. Dynamo and Fab aren't too bad, the bleaching All and Surf are a bit more smelly.
Wisk powder smells pine-y to me. Surf and regular Arm&Hammer, tutty-fruity. Gain fresh scent (blue capped bottle) smells like regular Tide liquid. Purex is nice, albiet sweet and strong. And those mountain scents - phew! Anyone have that Nice & Fluffy fabric softener? Banana candy!
-ph
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Post# 6259-10/3/2001-13:36 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (Ad-It???) MESSAGE: Hey, I still have the blue envelope and sample of FAB 1 shot that came in it. I was sorta saving it for the musuem. Tom
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Post# 6260-10/3/2001-13:39 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: WP Duet (Duet training) MESSAGE: Rich, thanks, you'll get the scoop or at least the practica tazza. TT
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Post# 6261-10/3/2001-13:44 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (hand-washed laundry) MESSAGE: Rich, one bathroom sounds awful to those of use raised with more than one, but it sure beat an outhouse, especially in winter, emptying chamber pots and taking baths in a metal tub in the kitchen.
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Post# 6262-10/3/2001-14:04 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California) SUBJECT:
Dating the filter-flo MESSAGE: I am trying to determine the age of a GE Filter-Flo washer that came with this house. It's Harvest Gold, with the perforated tub. It is complete with filter basket, fabric softener basket, mini-wash insert basket, owner's manual. I'm guessing it's about 1985, since the matching refrigerator (same color) was an '86. I'd check the S/N with GE but I can't find it. Anyone have any ideas? Is this thing considered collectible? Or is it charity material?
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Post# 6263-10/3/2001-14:07 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (hand-washed laundry) MESSAGE: When our Bendix f/l broke down in the fifties, I remember the whole family being called into the back yard to wash clothes in tubs and washboards. I think this lasted about a week, then the Bendix got fixed. I think I was young enough that I didn't quite get the point of dragging wet clothes across the washboard. It was kind of fun at my age but I got the impression it wasn't everyone's idea of a good time.
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Post# 6264-10/3/2001-14:25 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York) SUBJECT:
RE: Drain Hose Question (The Rush to Pump) MESSAGE: Hi Robert;
With most of the machines that I've owed, repaired, installed, the 1/2" drain hose ones always seemed to be the strongest force. I always had to make sure there was something holding the hose down or it would fly up. I remember instaling a F/L Westinghouse in a bathroom for someone and the drain hose was placed in the bath tub and it flew around like it was alive. I told them to put it in the toilet with the toliet seat down on it to hold it in place. I almost never have great hook-ups here to work with either, so I have to be creative! (lol)
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Post# 6265-10/3/2001-14:33 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (Ad-It???) MESSAGE: Hi Robert;
I remember AD-it. Now I'm trying to remember if the container was a top or front load washer. It was a sqaure plastic container but I can't remeber the style of machine or if it had any indentation in the plastic for a lid. It was great (lol)
Robert
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Post# 6266-10/3/2001-14:49 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (laundromat favorites smell like...) MESSAGE: Hi Peter;
I don't like the smell of ERA. My favorite since the 70's has been powdered Gain. I use it all the time even the Gain with bleach is great. Gain is sometimes hard to find in some grocery stores here so when I can't get it I will use Tide with bleach powder, they charge around the same price here for the Tide and the Gain. I don't care for liquids much just on the cold water wash stuff and then I use Gain or All. When they had that powdered Bold in the 70's I thought that had a Banana candy smell. (lol) It's great to hear from you!
"Brooklyn Robert"
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Post# 6267-10/3/2001-14:49 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (laundromat favorites smell like...) MESSAGE: Hi Peter;
I don't like the smell of ERA. My favorite since the 70's has been powdered Gain. I use it all the time even the Gain with bleach is great. Gain is sometimes hard to find in some grocery stores here so when I can't get it I will use Tide with bleach powder, they charge around the same price here for the Tide and the Gain. I don't care for liquids much just on the cold water wash stuff and then I use Gain or All. When they had that powdered Bold in the 70's I thought that had a Banana candy smell. (lol) It's great to hear from you!
"Brooklyn Robert"
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Post# 6268-10/3/2001-14:49 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (laundromat favorites smell like...) MESSAGE: Hi Peter;
I don't like the smell of ERA. My favorite since the 70's has been powdered Gain. I use it all the time even the Gain with bleach is great. Gain is sometimes hard to find in some grocery stores here so when I can't get it I will use Tide with bleach powder, they charge around the same price here for the Tide and the Gain. I don't care for liquids much just on the cold water wash stuff and then I use Gain or All. When they had that powdered Bold in the 70's I thought that had a Banana candy smell. (lol) It's great to hear from you!
"Brooklyn Robert"
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Post# 6269-10/3/2001-14:51 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use (My Weekend Visit to the Appliance Stores) MESSAGE: That could have been a Philips CC1000. If so that was the very famous 1000rpm Philips toploader. Do you by any chance have a picture or a drawing? If so she had one of the most famous European washers, a real collictors item!
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Post# 6270-10/3/2001-14:53 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York) SUBJECT:
Crazy Computer MESSAGE: Sorry about the three posts with the same message the computer is wild here today and hanging very bad.
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Post# 6271-10/3/2001-15:40 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK) SUBJECT:
RE: WP Duet (`n` Toolkits) MESSAGE: We expect you`ll be taking a full tool kit to take apart every little nut & bolt,and magnifying glass to inspect the door wash dropper,also a liquid measure for a final result on the water usage.......oh and a clicker to count how many holes!!!!
Hot in anticipation
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Post# 6272-10/3/2001-15:44 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use (My Weekend Visit to the Appliance Stores) MESSAGE: Eeeeeee, Ya sounded lik a reeeeel Lancashireeeer Lad when th`e said that then......
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Post# 6273-10/3/2001-15:46 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (Ad-It???) MESSAGE: Did you have "OMO" over there
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Post# 6274-10/3/2001-16:23 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (hand-washed laundry) MESSAGE: I forgot the bathroomm part of my mother's story. In their flat, the bathroom was in the hall and was shared by 3 families. You took your bath in the cast iron tub in the kitchen after heating the water on the stove........
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Post# 6275-10/3/2001-16:24 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (More Info Needed) MESSAGE: We'll need more information than that Rich to properly date a machine. GE made the mini-basket from the mid-60's thru the 90's, so that doesn't help much. GE wash tubs went perforated in 1961.
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Post# 6276-10/3/2001-16:24 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (Top Loader Indentations) MESSAGE: It was a Top Loader Robert
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Post# 6277-10/3/2001-16:25 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (Ad-It???) MESSAGE: What's OMO Mike?
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Post# 6278-10/3/2001-16:27 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (laundromat favorites smell like...) MESSAGE: Interesting comparisons. I tend to like powders more as a rule and regular Tide, Mountain Spring Tide with Bleach (not as strong as you would think!!!), Cheer "complete" powder and liquid (I think that is the new terminology for Cheer with bleach) are to my nose the least offensive. Liquid all sort of smells like the All of yesteryear - but it sudses like a bandit and doesn't clean worth a damn.
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Post# 6279-10/3/2001-16:28 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (Ad-It???) MESSAGE: TT -- only one comment for that---- !!!!!!!!
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Post# 6280-10/3/2001-16:29 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: WP Duet (Duet training) MESSAGE: I think all members should get a commemorative "practi-taza" measuring scoop........................
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Post# 6281-10/3/2001-16:30 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (hand-washed laundry) MESSAGE: And did I mention that all of this with my mother's family went on in a four room flat?
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Post# 6282-10/3/2001-16:33 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo MESSAGE: When I saw dating the filter flo, I panicked - thought your love life was even more of a non event than mine right now...... The model number and serial number should be on a little metal tag that is on the side of the machine at the bottom front - if you are facing the machine - - on the left side. That may help......
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Post# 6283-10/3/2001-16:37 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (laundromat favorites smell like...) MESSAGE: Robert - I hope I didn't insult you with my comments about Gain - it is just too strong for my nose....... Once again, the original Gain fragrance in the 70's and 80's was fine but now they are mucking around again . there is regualr gain with regular scent, regualr gain with gentle breeze scent and not I have seen Gain w/bleach in my local supermarket with an updated and yes, stronger fragrance. Will they never stop?/ Funny that Gain and Tide are now at the same price point. For years, Gain was the P&G bargain brand. I noticed that too here in CT.
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Post# 6284-10/3/2001-16:54 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (Ad-It???) MESSAGE: No, we didn't have OMO, but Glenn (DADoES) posted some fascinating information I will read in detail later. While scanning it, I noted that OMO and Surf are the same product from Lever, but are packaged differently......... We don't have "Fairy" (I mean the soap,.....please refrain yourselves on this one guys!!!) here, nor do we have Persil. interesting thought though, there is a store in NYC called Myer's of Keswick(sp)that carries all British groceries and specialties . MAybe I could find some Persil there...........
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Post# 6285-10/3/2001-17:10 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA) SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (lack of love life) MESSAGE: In my current state of loserness in the world, sometimes all I have is Whirly. Spending an evening with a washing machine is not too far fetched.
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Post# 6286-10/3/2001-17:24 ||| appnut (Temple, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (lack of love life) MESSAGE: Jason don't feel too bad. I'm in the same boat but with a major broken heart to boot. So the Lady K helps me too. Last night was a load of dress socks & jersey shorts (not as exciting as jetcone's load in the westy) as well a load of whites. Tonight, I get to go home & match up all 20+ pairs of socks & fold all those t-shirts, socks, & briefs. Oh what fun
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Post# 6287-10/3/2001-17:31 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (lack of love life) MESSAGE: And then, of course, after you get the briefs all folded up, you'll pack them securely away in your briefcase.
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Post# 6288-10/3/2001-17:51 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (Fab-1-Shot not so fab...) MESSAGE: I had a room-mate once (and only once) that used those Fab one-shot things in my '62 Maytags. He overloaded so badly that the "pillow" still had soap in it when the washer finished. He never understood why I always had 8 loads to his 4 every week - he should see me now! I never thought they cleaned or softened well either. My sister used to bleach clothes so hard it smelled like an indoor swimming pool through the whole house. I have a lot more rules for the washers now....
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Post# 6289-10/3/2001-18:07 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA) SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (lack of love life) MESSAGE: I can tell you all about Heartbreak Hotel, but I'll spare the gory details. It must be cool having a vintage Lady around the house. Someone you can push THEIR buttons for a change moohahaha. That's one of my dream machines.
I love washing, but I hate folding.
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Post# 6290-10/3/2001-18:21 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA) SUBJECT:
You know you're a washer freak if.... MESSAGE: OK, I'm starting it off here. Let's have some fun:
1. You can read a machine's serial # and tell its year.
2. You love to see clothes pile up in the hamper.
3. You know more about the HE3t, Calypso, and Frigmore than the sales person at Sears.
4. You sniff Ariel like it's a drug.
5. YOu go to a hardware store across town cause they have a sale of avocado appliance paint
6. Your baby's first word is "Frigidaire"
7. Appliance graveyards are sacred.
8. You cried when WCI bought out Frigidaire
9. You ride a "Wipeout" ride and wish they'd throw water on you.
10. You pause the washer when the phone rings (so it doesn't start spinning while you're not watching)
11. You have a pen cap, comb, or magnet close by to insert into the lid switch.
12. You know what blueing is.
13. There's the Frigidaire Unimatic, then there's the rest of the washer.
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Post# 6291-10/3/2001-18:22 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (" OMO" ) MESSAGE: Hi Robert
Having asked the question it answered itself a few posts later when I clicked on to DaDoes link to do with Global Branding Policies of Soapmakers......
It was a budget line Square Deal "Surf" like washing powder, deep blue colour, like Daz, the report says it was one of the ones not released in USA and made by Unilever.
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 6292-10/3/2001-18:40 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK) SUBJECT:
RE: You know you're a washer freak if.... (Do any two of:) MESSAGE: 1.Two special options simply arnt enough:
2.Q-tip your FL holes clean before the next wash:
3.Swab your filter for bio-organisms:
4.Fill your machine with a watering can:
5.Refuse to use "Sudz-Save in case it dirties the machine:
6.Can work out the revs on an electronic pulse spin:
7.You`ve done Bluing:
8.You use the hairdryer to completly dry the drum:
9.You use a click-counter to check the number of rollovers:
10.You take your agitator to bed with you:
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Post# 6293-10/3/2001-18:48 ||| appliguy (Vienna Va.) SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (It's 1967 or newer) MESSAGE: I can tell you for sure that your Filter Flo Automatic cannot be any older than 1967. According to the book A Walk In The Park The History of Appliance Park, GE introduced the color Harvest (GE never called it Harvest Gold) into the 1967 GE and Hotpoint lines. Just a year earlier they had introduced the color Avocado (that is according to my research of GE appliance ads fropm 1966 Life, Look, and Sat. Eve Post magazines). If I could see a picture of the machine I could tell you whether it dates from the late 60's to late 1976 or from late 76 to the mid 80's. That can be done because the original Harvest color was offered only until near the end of 1976. That is when GE scraped all its "shaded colors" for what they called The "New Naturals" line of colors. The new line of colors were inspired by natures oen color schemes and included new colors such as Almond, Harvest, Wheat, Coffee, Fresh Avocado, Onyx, and Snow. I personally can tell the Difference between the pre 1976 Harvest color and the post 1976 Harvest color. The Pre 1976 Harvest to me looks dirty and faded compared to the post 1976 Harvest color which is more vibarant. I have compared both colors by looking at them on 2 side by side Americana Fridges. The first one was a 1974 model a friend of mine has and the second one is the 1979 model in our garage that my mother has had for 22 years. I have seen the same diffrences between Avocado and Fresh Avocado. Sorry to digress but I just thought you all might enjoy this little bit of info. If you can please scan a picture it will diffenately help with the pinpointing of the date of manufacture.
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Post# 6294-10/3/2001-19:15 ||| Lenny (Northeastern Pennsylvania, USA) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (AD-IT) MESSAGE: Hi Unimatic:
I, also remember the product 'AD-IT'. If I can recall correctly it was some type of a detergent booster. I remember the small washer shaped plastic containers. That must have been sometime in the early 1970's. That was also a very short lived product that was available here in the Northeast.
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Post# 6295-10/3/2001-19:19 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California) SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (Filter-Flo Model, S/N) MESSAGE: Thanks, Angus, I found the label on the bottom front of the left side.
GE Filter-Flo Washer:
Model # WWA8450VCLHA, S/N LD117906G.
1/2 hp motor, 8.5 amps.
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Post# 6296-10/3/2001-19:20 ||| daveuk (Livingston) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use (Philips TL machine(s)) MESSAGE: Really? I don't have any pics of it to hand, I'd be able to find some somewhere, as I know there are some... just not here with me. could probably do a drawing from memory though...
Description - white machine, white lid, with a blue/silver tab at the front right (I think) which had either Philips or 'SlimStar' on it. Control panel was, I think, mainly silver, with the dials and buttons on the right, dials were silver with blue inside and blue writing around them.
Had no idea that was such a famous machine... I'll have to go search on google now...
Dave
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Post# 6297-10/3/2001-19:21 ||| Lenny (Northeastern Pennsylvania, USA) SUBJECT:
'VIM' tabs MESSAGE: Hi all:
Speaking of 'vintage' detergent products, does anyone remember the low-sudsing 'VIM' tablets. They were small blue tablets that were grouped in packets of 4. My mom used those for years in our Westinghouse Space-Mates front loader. It was a very popular product at the time. Vim tabs were much smaller that the white SALVO tablets.
Another product that comes to mind is some type of blue chlorine bleach powder that came in film coated,little 'pillow' shaped doses - I cant remember the name of that product but it was really unique. Lenny
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Post# 6298-10/3/2001-19:25 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California) SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (It's 1967 or newer) MESSAGE: Thanks, A-guy. I posted the model number and serial number just now, maybe those will help. I perhaps erred in calling it Havest Gold; it's a deep yellow. It's not shaded, however, as far as I can tell. So it's probably post-76, which fits in with the age of the matching side-by-side GE fridge.
I suppose I could call GE on this, but it's much more fun to have you folks discuss this one and figure it out!
;-)
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Post# 6299-10/3/2001-19:31 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: You know you're a washer freak if.... (Do any two of:) MESSAGE: LOL @ Mike's #10! We won't even discuss the meaning of it if that agitator is from a Pulsamatic . . .
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Post# 6300-10/3/2001-19:31 ||| daveuk (Livingston) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (duplicate names!) MESSAGE: Hey Mike
Livingston - West Lothian, 'tis about 20 miles west of Edinburgh if that helps...
Dave (trying to figure out if there's anyone else in the UK here)
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Post# 6301-10/3/2001-19:36 ||| Lenny (Northeastern Pennsylvania, USA) SUBJECT:
RE: You know you're a washer freak if.... (Chat Room) MESSAGE: I visit the vintage appliance chat room regularly. I never see anyone on it. Do people here ever get together in 'live' chat? I keep hoping to chat with some other appliance 'nuts' here! Lenny
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Post# 6302-10/3/2001-19:38 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: 'VIM' tabs MESSAGE: Oohhhhhh, I think I recall the little pillow-thingies of which you speak, but I don't know the name of them.
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Post# 6303-10/3/2001-19:43 ||| daveuk (Livingston) SUBJECT:
RE: You know you're a washer freak if.... (Do any two of:) MESSAGE: hehehehe
I'm saying nothing...
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Post# 6304-10/3/2001-19:48 ||| Lenny (Northeastern Pennsylvania, USA) SUBJECT:
Chat Room MESSAGE: I'll be in the chat room while I'm on line for awhile. Maybe someone will finally stop by the chat room for a bit. I always check it out and no one is ever on live chat. I wonder why?
L
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Post# 6305-10/3/2001-19:48 ||| Lenny (Northeastern Pennsylvania, USA) SUBJECT:
Chat Room MESSAGE: I'll be in the chat room while I'm on line for awhile. Maybe someone will finally stop by the chat room for a bit. I always check it out and no one is ever on live chat. I wonder why?
L
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Post# 6306-10/3/2001-19:51 ||| appnut (Temple, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (Brief messages) MESSAGE: Ah yes, Glenn, just like at the Convention. Your comments may have been brief, but were powerful. Now, you may be jockeying for king of puns here, but I bet golittlesport will contest that attempt--where are you Rich????
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Post# 6307-10/3/2001-19:54 ||| daveuk (Livingston) SUBJECT:
RE: Chat Room MESSAGE: What's this chat room?
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Post# 6308-10/3/2001-19:56 ||| appnut (Temple, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (lack of love life) MESSAGE: Jason, it's only a 1986 DD LK that will be 15 years old in 12 days--so it will qualify for the museum. Unfortunately not vintage and no buttons to push, just knobs to turn.
I still hate folding, but since I'm the only one here, I have to do it--the dog sure won't. His (Beau's) only job is to look cute and keep me company (right Jetcone???).
When I was growing up, I did the laundry, but it all got plopped on the couches in the den for Mom to fold. Also did the same thing with the dishwasher, loaded and ran it, but didn't like unloading it. Still don't to this day.
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Post# 6309-10/3/2001-20:01 ||| appnut (Temple, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: You know you're a washer freak if.... (Do any two of:) MESSAGE: Now Mike!!! you bad boy. #10 would be even more exciting if it were a 3-ring pulsator!!! or an ABC-O-Matic wash action agitator. Oh the possibilities. And look out for the 1960s Kenmores with the scrubber caps. Yikes!!!
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Post# 6310-10/3/2001-20:02 ||| daveuk (Livingston) SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (lack of love life) MESSAGE: Hah, I hate folding and ironing with a vengeance, unless I'm in a bad mood when oddly enough it helps. I'm perfectly happy to wash and dry. Strange that :)
Same with the dishwasher - I'll do the dishes then they'll get gradually unloaded as I use them and then the machine will be reloaded again. Sometimes I'm efficient and it gets done early.
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Post# 6311-10/3/2001-20:03 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California) SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (More Info Needed) MESSAGE: Robert,
It's a
Model # WWA8450VCLHA, S/N LD117906G.
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Post# 6312-10/3/2001-20:06 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA) SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (Briefs in my drawers) MESSAGE: Briefs in my drawers, drawers in my brief...case?
Boxers or tighty-whitey's?
Drawers on the agitator.
being silly again :-D
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Post# 6313-10/3/2001-20:08 ||| appnut (Temple, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: 'VIM' tabs MESSAGE: Was it Action Bleach? Axion was an enzyme pre-soak.
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Post# 6314-10/3/2001-20:12 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA) SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (folding) MESSAGE: Folding clothes is like saying "It's over". The fun's over and it will be another week or so before I can play with Whirly again :-(. Even when I was a kid, I didn't like drying because that meant no more washing machine until next week. No agitator, no "grind-click-zzzzz", no nuttin but an empty Kenmore 800.
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Post# 6315-10/3/2001-20:45 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA) SUBJECT:
The Washing Machine through a child's eyes (some memories) MESSAGE: Wash day was a fun time for me, especially at my grandma's house. She had an early 60s Kenmore washer (that made all the great clicks and grinds). I can still see her loading the machine and starting it. She would leave the room to watch TV and left me to feed my addiction. The washer would start agitating. The classic Kenmore whir filled the small washroom. I used to stand on a chair and watch the agitator and listen to the motor. Other times I'd sit on the washer itself and look down into it. That also gave me easy access to the lid switch. One time I climbed up and almost fell in. My arm went into the water. My grandmother heard it and she said (in a Cajun accent) "Get youself down offa dat warshin mashine" Did I listen? NOPE. the agitation cycle lasts about 14 minutes. Enough time to enjoy it but not too long to get bored. Next is the neutral drain. Although despised by some people, in my little eyes I thought this was the "correct" way. This was before I got exposed to GE and Maytag. Alot can be said about the classic Kenmore shifting into spin. It's quirky, it's "clicky", it's just plain cool. I knew when to put my hand on the switch and I actually held it until the rinse cycle came. Of course, my granny came in to put in some Downy "I tol' you git offa da warshin machine or I tell mama". Uh oh... She said the magic word... MAMA.. Mama = spanking so I reluctantly jumped down from my vantage point and went back to using the chair. The rinse cycle commenced and it was time for final spin. Now, this is where I get even >:-) . I lifted the lid. Then I put all the clothes into one spot and pushed the lid switch (like Uni did in the video). The OOB didn't work so I just kept going. "BANG!............BANG!.......BANG!...BANG!BANG!BANG!BANG!BANG!" Of course, you know who comes running in to fix the load "You just wait, I'm gonna tell you mama and you gonna get a whippin". Yeah sure granny. But she never told mama. I got to play with the washer and get away with it.
In 1983, a sad day came. My granny's classic Kenmore passed on and had to be replaced... by another Kenmore. It was belt-drive but it wasn't the same. I didn't want to go in the laundry room anymore for the longest time. Of course, now, there's an all-white (shudder) Kenmore sitting proudly in the place where the classic once stood. In my mind's eye, the 60s Kenmore is still there. It's whirling and grinding somewhere in the back of my inner child's memory. Perhaps it's in Washer Heaven sitting next to my mom's Kenmore 800, my Aunt's Lady K, and my other granny's GE Filter-Flo and they're all awaiting my arrival when it's time for me to move on.
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Post# 6316-10/3/2001-21:09 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York) SUBJECT:
RE: 'VIM' tabs MESSAGE: That was "Action Bleach". The commerical was a well developed strong arm like(Mr. Clean type)sticking up from the inside of a top loading washer holding the box. (lol)
The Carol Burnette Show did a skit on that commerical with the fist punching her in the face when she lifted the lid on the washer. (lol)
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Post# 6317-10/3/2001-21:10 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (lack of love life) MESSAGE: Jason - don't down yourself by using the term "loserness". That is incredibly harsh, and you ought to be kinder to yourself. I am just finishing a year of my life that I hope never to even come close to duplicating again. My heart, too had a very long trip through the meat grinder this year. In a six month period, my partner of 13 years left me for someone else he had been seeing for 9 months before I knew. I won't even go into any detail over that, but let it suffice to say that we can never be friends. Add to that my mother's sudden illness and death which meant 24 hour shifts at the hospital for 2 months and let's top it off with returning to work after my mother's burial only to find out that my job was eliminated (in a very tight market) and I had two days to clear out after 15 years. I guess my point is that things are not always what we want them to be, but things do pass and change. You mustn't lose your spirit - you are young and have a long way to go yet......
And to "appnut" - when all else fails and the world is closing in, open the champagne (or beer if you prefer) and throw in a white wash!!!
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Post# 6318-10/3/2001-21:12 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (lack of love life) MESSAGE: But only for a "brief" period.........
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Post# 6319-10/3/2001-21:20 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (laundromat favorites smell like...) MESSAGE: Hi Anthony;
I'm not insulted at all. This is why they make so many differnt products. You are right when you have a good product "STOP" and leave it alone. Look what The Whirpool Corp. did with the Design 2000, I haven't recoved yet! (lol)
"Brooklyn Robert"
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Post# 6320-10/3/2001-21:21 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (Fab-1-Shot not so fab...) MESSAGE: I loved my mother to death, and not a day goes by that I don't think of her, but while she was alive none of my white underwear ever lasted longer than two months. I was always tempted to call 911 when she did a white wash because we were all overcome by the bleach fumes - it was like living in the swimming pool at the "Y". There was even one day that I reached into the machine to take out a white load she washed and my briefs and T-shirts literally were shredding in my hands. I could not get a single garment out in one piece. When I presented her with this mountain of evidence (albeit shredded) she raised an eyebrow, sniffed disdainfully and pronounced that my sweat must have been so toxic that it dissolved the clothes - couldn't have been anything SHE did!! We had a good laugh over that , but I did start her on bleach rationing........... And you know I would give my right arm to have her shred some more clothing for me now............
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Post# 6321-10/3/2001-21:23 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: You know you're a washer freak if.... MESSAGE: DO you have to get them all to be a washer freak? Or is there a minimum score?
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Post# 6322-10/3/2001-21:26 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (Filter-Flo Model, S/N) MESSAGE: No thanks necessary - just contributing for the common good!!!!
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Post# 6323-10/3/2001-21:28 ||| peteski50 (New York) SUBJECT:
RE: You know you're a washer freak if.... (Oh Yes I am) MESSAGE: I agree with all - and # 8 applies to me the most!
Peter
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Post# 6324-10/3/2001-21:35 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: 'VIM' tabs MESSAGE: Yes, Lenny, I too remember Vim tablets. I know you won't beleive this, but I just thought about this before it came up on the discussion. The blue bleach packets were called "Action" and were actually dry chlorine bleach.........
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Post# 6325-10/3/2001-21:38 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (lack of love life) MESSAGE: Hmm..... and I thought I was the only laundry nut who hated unloading the dishwasher...............
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Post# 6326-10/3/2001-21:39 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California) SUBJECT:
RE: The Washing Machine through a child's eyes (some memories) MESSAGE: What a wonderful story, Jason.
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Post# 6327-10/3/2001-21:43 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (laundromat favorites smell like...) MESSAGE: Robert - let's not even get me started on the design changes at GE............. They should be brought up on charges for that!!!!
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Post# 6328-10/3/2001-21:45 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: The Washing Machine through a child's eyes (some memories) MESSAGE: It was a great story and I bet that most of us have similar ones.................
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Post# 6329-10/3/2001-21:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (lack of love life) MESSAGE: Wow Angus, I'm sorry to hear about those horrible events in your life recently. I've had a few similar experiences with partners and I know how you must feel, along with the other bad things. But now you've found us and we're all good friends here. So on to more happier thoughts like, gentle breezes, fluffy snowflakes, overflow rinses, etc.
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Post# 6330-10/3/2001-22:00 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (lack of love life) MESSAGE: Robert - thanks, and the thought of overflow rinses is especially comforting!!!!
Anthony
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Post# 6331-10/3/2001-22:05 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York) SUBJECT:
RE: The Washing Machine through a child's eyes (some memories) MESSAGE: That's a nice story! My first experience was a Semi-automatic Thor, then the RCA Whirlpool which is still with me, I do two or three loads a week in it. Everytime I use it I still think of my grandmother (who has been gone now over 20 years) when I look at the machine, sometime I say WOW! We grew up together! I wish I could tell my grandmother today "You really got your money's worth out of this machine over 25 years ago" and "It Owes Us Nothing". I think most of us in this club can thank our grandparents for the introduction to the great "Washing Machines". I feel sorry for the kids today who are just getting interested in washing machines and will never see the machines we have.
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Post# 6332-10/3/2001-22:16 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA) SUBJECT:
RE: The Washing Machine through a child's eyes (some memories) (The 2nd Golden Age) MESSAGE: Today's kids (our future washer nuts) are growing up in what I think is the 2nd Golden Age of the washer. Twenty or 30 years from now they'll be cherishing Frigmores, Fisher & Paykels, Calypsos, Neptunes, and Hetties. The FIRST Hetties are happening right now. If I had the space and money, I'd buy a set. They'll think of the "first wave" 50s machines the same way we think of wringers. Besides the 1978 Lady K's I can't think of any collectible washers between 1980 and 1998
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Post# 6333-10/3/2001-22:20 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA) SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (Thanks) MESSAGE: Thanks for all the encouragement out there. It sucks being single. It's hard finding the right mate. Of course, I'm looking for a woman but the same applies. A good one's hard to find and when you find that person, hold on to that person as long as you can.
NOW, back to washers...
I've NEVER seen an overflow rinse. Of course I'm young and was never exposed to a solid tub washer.
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Post# 6334-10/3/2001-22:56 ||| appnut (Temple, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (Thanks) MESSAGE: Jason, next time there's a convention, hopefully you can come. Any of the potential locale have solid tub, overflow rinsing machines. An event/experience you won't forget.
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Post# 6335-10/3/2001-23:01 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE) SUBJECT:
Westy washes again! MESSAGE: She put up a good fight, but I've won the battle. Tonight I was finally able to wash a load in the '49 Westinghouse L5 Laundromat. Here are some pics of the washer and D3 dryer pair reunited and humming along.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/thesheerlook/vwp?.dir=/Westinghouse+Laundromat+L5+Restoration&.src=ph&.dnm=The+Westinghouse+L5+%26+D3.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/thesheerlook/lst%3f%26.dir=/Westinghouse%2bLaundromat%2bL5%2bRestoration%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 6336-10/3/2001-23:07 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: Chat Room MESSAGE: A chat room I set up for the club to use back when we were still on Yahoo, as an alternative to the one provided by Yahoo. A link to it is on the Members Links page here on the club -- it's the second link assuming the order hasn't changed from somebody adding another link.
Or, you can use the link on this post. You can also save it in your IE Favorites or Netscape Bookmarks for easy access.
Here are some brief instructions:
1. Your browser must support Java. It may take a minute or so for the opening chat room page to fully load and the Java to get started.
2. Type a nickname and click the "Volano" button to enter the main chat room. You can use anything you want for a nickname, but your Club nickname is the most appropriate so everybody will know who you are.
3. You can optionally include a profile when you log in, which will appear at the bottom of the main chat window if your nickname is selected from the list of active chatters at the right. This can simply be a comment you want to make, or if you type a complete URL (including the http://) in the profile field, it appears as a clickable link.
4. The chat room itself will open as a separate window. You type in the field at the bottom. It's not necessary to type your nickname as part of what you say, the chat software will automatically display your nickname with your messages for the other chatters to see. You'll see your own messages, but not your nickname with them.
5. When another chatter comes in, you will hear a "boink" sound to let you know, in case you aren't watching the screen. This way, you can open the chat window, minimize it, and do other work on your computer, and you'll hear the "boink" when someone comes in to chat with you.
6. You can also send a "boink" alert to another chatter if you want to get his attention. Select his name from the list, then click People / Ring
7. There are several options for the font, and you can chose to ignore other chatters that may be annoying you.
8. You can initiate a private chat by double-clicking on another chatter's name. A separate window will open. If you can keep up with it, you can have multiple private chats open along with the main room.
9. You can open another browser window if you want to continue surfing while you chat. You cannot close the browser window in which the chat room is "anchored" or all the chat windows will close, but you can minimize it.
LINK: http://users.wcnet.net/dadoes/appchat.html
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Post# 6337-10/3/2001-23:08 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE) SUBJECT:
RE: You know you're a washer freak if.... (Do any two of:) MESSAGE: How about a long-neck Hotpoint?
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Post# 6338-10/3/2001-00:57 ||| golittlesport (California) SUBJECT:
RE: Westy washes again! (absolutely fabulous!) MESSAGE: Hi Greg
Your Westies are just terrific! What great pictures you took. Some of those Laundromat door shots were very artsie and suitable for framing in a gallery. The Westy and Speed Queen pairs next to each other are too much...enough to make one faint upon entering the room. Great job!!!
Rich
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Post# 6339-10/3/2001-01:01 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: Chat Room MESSAGE: Had some nice chat action this evening . . . fun, fun, fun!
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Post# 6340-10/3/2001-01:55 ||| spiralator60 (Los Angeles, California) SUBJECT:
RE: Leave It To Beaver (Library references) MESSAGE: Much of the information came from material located in the research library at the 20th Century Fox studio.
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Post# 6341-10/3/2001-01:57 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (Just Us) MESSAGE: Hi Dave
Just us and "Cafejim" who has recently joined from Edinburgh as well. I had the honour of attending the convention this year in Minneapolis, Louis came as well so we were the "International" gang, mindblowing....
Next one is in Washington, so get ready!!!!
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Post# 6342-10/4/2001-02:31 ||| spiralator60 (Los Angeles, California) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (Bendix and Bluing Memories) MESSAGE: You can add Los Angeles to the mix. Both of my grandmothers said that they had the same complaint about the Bendix machines, and to a lesser extent the Westinghouse Laundromats. Much of this was due to the hard water found in this part of the country that made doing the dishes and other cleaning jobs a challenge. Calgon and various detergent formulations over later years did overcome this problem with the water, but it was not enough to get either of them to reconsider buying a front loader for home use. However, both Grandmas said that a commercial front loader was the ticket for whatever could not fit into Mom's mother's Lady Kenmore or Dad's mother's Maytag. Even after getting automatic machines, both continued the practice of using bluing on white items, and this meant that the machines were manually reset for an additional deep rinse.
In response to an earlier post, La France is widely available in supermarkets in Southern California. Typically it costs about $4 US for a 70 ounce box, and is usually located on the shelf next to the powdered Calgon, White King, 20 Mule Team Borax, and the liquid Mrs. Stewart's bluing.
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Post# 6343-10/4/2001-02:41 ||| spiralator60 (Los Angeles, California) SUBJECT:
RE: The Washing Machine through a child's eyes (some memories) (Warm Memories) MESSAGE: I agree totally. What you and others have said about the machines, detergents and other things reinforces that fact that we all have good, similar, experiences shared in both the past and the present.
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Post# 6344-10/4/2001-04:37 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK) SUBJECT:
RE: Westy washes again! (Washes Whiter) MESSAGE: Hi Greg
Fab looking pair, is this an earlier model than Roberts...
Also what is the circle thingy on the dryer, on top back left???
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 6345-10/4/2001-04:41 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK) SUBJECT:
RE: You know you're a washer freak if.... (Do any two of:) MESSAGE: Possibly, but I`d have to go for the Servis Mark1....
Tall, Elegant & Black, 5 deep wash vanes,all topped with a cute round knob on the top!!!
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Post# 6346-10/4/2001-05:56 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: The Washing Machine through a child's eyes (some memories) (The 2nd Golden Age) MESSAGE: Isn't that the truth!!! Of course you might, for laughs, consider any of the WCI washers "collectible" as an example of how not to design and build an appliance - after all I have never before seen washers constructed entirely of pressed aluminum foil, spit and gum wrappers! Actually, the WCI washers will have probably disintegrated by then!!!
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Post# 6347-10/4/2001-05:59 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: Westy washes again! (absolutely fabulous!) MESSAGE: Greg - I do believe I have suffered an attack of the vapors!! Memorable shots.......
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Post# 6348-10/4/2001-06:00 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: WP Duet (`n` Toolkits) MESSAGE: Mike, I keep a tool kit in the back of the car with metric sockets for the car and other assorted tools for removing parts from appliances in my job with Midnight Appliances. I wonder if I will need metric or English sockets for the machine since it is made in Europe. Guess I will take both in with me. Maybe I will transfer what I need to a small, black, zippered clutch. Something simple & tasteful. Tom
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Post# 6349-10/4/2001-06:02 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (Bendix and Bluing Memories) MESSAGE: White King - wow - I haven't been to L.A. in years - is that brand still around? I still have my White King vynil laundry bag with the WK logo and the little king on it from the early 80's!
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Post# 6350-10/4/2001-06:04 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (OMO) MESSAGE: I have a box of OMOMATIC that John brought me back from a trip to Australia in the 80s. It is supposed to be low sudsing. I tried it once or twice a loooong time ago. Don't remember anything earth shaking about it. I seem to remember lots of washer names on the box. TT
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Post# 6351-10/4/2001-06:04 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: The Washing Machine through a child's eyes (some memories) (Warm Memories) MESSAGE: Absolute agreement here also. All you have to do is change the erato the late 50's/early 60's, set it at Aunt Jennie's apartment and change the Whirlpool/Kenmore to the '56 Norge Timeline and you have mine.......
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Post# 6352-10/4/2001-06:05 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: WP Duet (`n` Toolkits) MESSAGE: TT - MIdnight Appliances? Hmm.............. sounds darkly thrilling.....
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Post# 6353-10/4/2001-06:14 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (laundromat favorites smell like...) MESSAGE: Yesterday, I saw the Surf tablets in the grocery store. Glad to see the mention of HE compatibility, although they only have 56 in a box and Wisk has 60 so you get two less loads. Another store just started carrying the liquid Wisk HE and at a good price, so used a coupon and bought some more. None of the tablets so far makes mention of using fewer for a FL than a TL.
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Post# 6354-10/4/2001-06:15 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (Ad-It???) MESSAGE: I think you can buy Persil here through Miele in NJ.
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Post# 6355-10/4/2001-06:26 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: 'VIM' tabs (ACTION BLEACH) MESSAGE: We used both VIM and SALVO. For the FL, mom used to break them up, half a SALVO was usually enough. The bleach was ACTION dry chlorine bleach and the ad on TV featured a giant arm with clenched fist coming up out of the washer. There were all kinds of jokes in school about why you should not use it to clean the toilet. It was kinda purpley blue or violet and the little washaway packet was the first time many of us saw plastic film that dissolved in water. I think they warned you not to handle it with wet hands.
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Post# 6356-10/4/2001-06:36 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (laundromat favorites smell like...) MESSAGE: TT - interesting - the wisk tablets do not mention HE compatiblity - but the Lever hotline assures me that this is so. However, I have used both wisk and surf tablets and the surf is by far the lower sudser of the two. Glad you found the Wisk HE Liquid - it actually does a great job even in my Amana top loader.
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Post# 6357-10/4/2001-06:37 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: The Washing Machine through a child's eyes (some memories) MESSAGE: As a child, I used to get the weirdest feeling watching the Kenmore drain. All the clothes would be collapsed in the bottom of the tub and I knew that soon, they would no longer be visible as individual items, but just a band of color. It was like waiting for someone to leave at a train station because there was some sort of separation involved during spin when you could not touch or see the items. Don't remember this with FLs or TLs that spun out the water, but I think it was also related to Jason1's realization that the wash was almost done and one of the few bright spots in my life would be out for a while. TT
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Post# 6358-10/4/2001-06:37 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (Ad-It???) MESSAGE: TT - I will try it and let you know if that is the case
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Post# 6359-10/4/2001-06:49 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (lack of love life) MESSAGE: Good heavens, Anthony. How awful. We are here for you. People can really cause hurt when they behave badly. I have found that appliances can never hurt like people and only dogs and, in spite of what most religions tell you, the Creator offer unconditional love. Of course this philosophy created a firewall that is like a reinforced concrete bunker, but it can work. Hope finding appliance friends on the club helps some. Remember Washington is not that bad a trip from CT, especially by train, so you must come down sometime and view the junk collection in person. Tom
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Post# 6360-10/4/2001-06:55 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (lack of love life) MESSAGE: Having two is almost a solution. John and I figure that 3 would just about do it for each of us because you can't quite use out of two before a lot needs loading, but with 3 there might be a chance of using the stuff in one to the point of emptying it before the 3rd gets full. 'Course, a lot depends on if you put everything in and how tightly you load. Tom
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Post# 6361-10/4/2001-06:58 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: The Washing Machine through a child's eyes (some memories) MESSAGE: If they care about appliances they will be able to visit the machines in the museum we are making. Imagine how unique a period of history these machines will represent when the water standards make doing laundry like one of those dryer dry cleaning kits where you dab dirt with something almost wet and then dry it. These machines actually fill with water!
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Post# 6362-10/4/2001-07:09 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: Westy washes again! MESSAGE: I dunno Greg, I think this must be having an effect on Skyler and maybe even Jack. One thing is certain, if Skyler EVER has a friend who is interested in the machines and wants to come over to play with them, we will know that there is hope for another generation to take care of the collection. It sure is beautiful. Tom
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Post# 6363-10/4/2001-07:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE) SUBJECT:
RE: Westy washes again! MESSAGE: Thanks everyone for the nice comments and support. It is fun to have them done, and washing. I have only used one at Roberts, so it will be fun to have some experiemental washing sessions now. The water shots on the window were from when I was testing the machine, just before this I had the pump apart and forgot to replace the air dome hose before re-starting it. When I did replace it, the water level continued to rise higher and higher, so there was too much water in the drum, but it made for some nice splash pictures.
Mike - the ring on top of the dryer is a spot where the paint is gone. These machines orginally came from Robert's recycler and the defect was there when he got them. Looks like someone set some sort of chemical can or jug there and it melted the paint. Both machines need painting desperately.
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Post# 6364-10/4/2001-07:32 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: The Washing Machine through a child's eyes (some memories) (Warm Memories) MESSAGE: One of the neatest Saturday mornings in my life was being invited across the street when I was about 5 to wash clothes with a neighbor who had a Bendix Economat. It was so great and, like so many magical experiences, a one time thing because we soon moved to our new house and my parents did not approve of it at all. The family had older daughters who sometimes baby sat my brother and me. They were all in the kitchen and having a good time while the washing was being done and included me, this little kid, in everything that morning. Adults so seldom realize how much joy they can bring to children's lives in simple and commonplace ways and probably never know that it will be remembered and treasured forever. They even let me turn dials to start the washer and dryer! I send them very happy thoughts when I think of them. The husband helped dad install our first air conditioner some years later. He worked for Carrier, I think. He was always eager to discuss appliances, even washing machines with me. They moved to a new house after we did and he told me they got stacked Westinghouse SpaceMates. Tom
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Post# 6365-10/4/2001-07:52 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: WP Duet (`n` Toolkits) MESSAGE: Anthony, you haven't heard about the midnight runs John and I make on weekend nights? We visit a couple of appliance dealers in the area, but from the rear. We have amassed a giant collection. We also harvest lots of parts. Tom
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Post# 6366-10/4/2001-07:53 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE) SUBJECT:
RE: The Washing Machine through a child's eyes (some memories) (Warm Memories) MESSAGE: I guess I was lucky, there were several people in my childhood that "allowed" me to be a part of the wash day. One, and probably most importantly was my grandmother with whom I used to spend several weeks every summer. She made me a part of the entire process and when she replaced her '57 Maytag in 1976, the old one was moved to the basement/cellar for washing rugs and work clothes. I was always given the responsibility of doing this washing and having taught me about water temps and effective rinsing, grandma knew they would get done properly while at the same time providing me with hours of entertainment.
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Post# 6367-10/4/2001-08:01 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA) SUBJECT:
This is ONLY a dream MESSAGE: Last night I dreamed I saw a Sears sale catalog with a HE3t washer for $599 and a HE3t dryer for $219.99. I looked carefully and it said "HE3t".
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Post# 6368-10/4/2001-08:04 ||| appnut (Temple, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: Westy washes again! (absolutely fabulous!) MESSAGE: Gee, just like I almost fainted when I walked into Uni's basement that Saturday morning!!!!!!
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Post# 6369-10/4/2001-08:05 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (laundromat favorites smell like...) MESSAGE: Anthony, Have you tried the HE Tide powder? I really like it, but it is hard at find at an affordable price; Target wants a fortune over what Wal Mart charges, but I hate spending money at WM. I think the bias is to liquids. Some of the better Wal Marts have the Tide powder HE, and have had the Wisk HE liquid, but the grocery stores have been slow to pick up the HE stuff. That is why I was glad to see the Surf tablets. It will be intersting to see how much they suds in a FL. The powder Tide HE has foam that almost disappears when the FLs pause to reverse tumble. I will wait to try the Surf until a coupon is in the paper.
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Post# 6370-10/4/2001-08:10 ||| appnut (Temple, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: Westy washes again! MESSAGE: Greg, I'm pleased as punch for you. Wow, the best of both worlds--front loaders and frigidaires. Sigh!!!! But knowing you, you won't take time in your household to become a westing house. You'll find another project and not west at all. (Just call me daffy) (LOL)
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Post# 6371-10/4/2001-08:21 ||| appnut (Temple, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (lack of love life) MESSAGE: Tom, I can't believe you referred to any appliance, whether in good or bad condition, as part of a junk collection, even in jest. I might also add, I refer to you myself as tom terrific turbo rinse. Bob
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Post# 6372-10/4/2001-08:36 ||| appnut (Temple, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: The Washing Machine through a child's eyes (some memories) (Warm Memories) MESSAGE: Mine were at my Aunt's house. He had a simple Kenmore from the late 50s. She'd let me watch it wash but I was not allowed to watch it spin & spray rinse. Then there was my Godfather's wife's Frigidaires--the WO-65 and then the WCI65. Always allowed to watch them wash but was reprimanded if the lid remained open after a certain point in throwing out the water. Another was the neighbor with the LK Combos, NEVER got to see a complete cycle, only portions--mostly catching one of the last rinses and final spin. Then there was the neighbor on the other side from Holland. They had a 60 or 61 Model 70 Kenore. Loved the lighted dial and the scrubber cap. I'd get to watch the entire cycle. My favorite was W'n'W with the wash speed shift and then the cool-down with NUMEROUS refills because it drained on normal speed. She even washed jeans on W'n'W. Had the pregnant rotoswirl agitator. She used liquid all or wisk & snowy bleach. She hung everything out to dry until she got a 64 model 500 with 3 timed cycles and variable temp dial. Those wee my best memories becuse of the waterfall filter. The rest of my memories were simply doing the family wash which I really didn't truly enjoy until I got MY selection of washers--the 1970 Model 800 Kenmore. Ahh yes, that wig-wag noise and the dispenser solenoids opening & closing.
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Post# 6373-10/4/2001-08:47 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK) SUBJECT:
RE: WP Duet (Zippered Clutch) MESSAGE: Tom,fully agree about the black zippered clutch, just make sure its waterproof, dont want any tell-tale signs of water & oil from the spent parts......
If you cant find one dont worry , you can borrow Roberts, the one he keeps his "Moist Towelettes" in ......lOL
Mike
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Post# 6374-10/4/2001-08:57 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) SUBJECT:
RE: Westy washes again! MESSAGE: Just Beautiful Greg. She did put up a good fight didn't she, but you won in the end! YAY.
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Post# 6375-10/4/2001-09:00 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) SUBJECT:
RE: Chat Room MESSAGE: Thanks Dadoes, can this be our permenant Chat Room Location? If so I can add a new button to our home page so we can easily get into the chat room. I can even copy your instructions and place them on the pre-chat room page.
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Post# 6376-10/4/2001-09:05 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (Ad-It???) MESSAGE: I really like Persil Tom. By chance do you know if one can buy this through their web site or do you have to call them directly?
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Post# 6377-10/4/2001-09:22 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California) SUBJECT:
RE: Chat Room (rollermatic mystery resolved) MESSAGE: I want to thank Dado, Gansky, and whoever else was there in the chat room last night. They helped me determine what model Frigidaire pump action washer I used back around '65. They also explained the terms "unimatic", "rollermatic", and "jetcone" for me. From the agitator photos they sent me, it looks like it was a '63-64 rollermatic. One of these days I'm going to have to ask my Mom if she remembers the washer at all... I can't remember the cabinet color, it might have been white.
(PS-they got the photos from Uni's yahoo home page, which unfortunately was off-line last night. It's back up again today. In any case, I must include Uni in the thank yous as well!).
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Post# 6378-10/4/2001-09:24 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (lack of love life) MESSAGE: TT - thanks and I will take you up on that offer to visit Washington. But I am honestly not looking for sympathy. Tyhis year taught me a lot, some of which I may not have wanted to, but really did need to know. I also learned that I was really blessed to have the neighbors and friends that I do. Every single one of them went over and above anything I could have imagined. And the ones who didn't or weren't there, well, doesn't that say something!
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Post# 6379-10/4/2001-09:29 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: The Washing Machine through a child's eyes (some memories) (Warm Memories) MESSAGE: Interesting point - aside from being fun, I learned all about proper fabric care and stain removal. I am always appalled by friends who go out in allegedly clean clothes that are either full of stains or dingy white, etc..... It was part of my mother's theory that the world judges and treats you as they see you........... - before they can get to your "person"
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Post# 6380-10/4/2001-09:30 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: This is ONLY a dream MESSAGE: You may want to lay off the enchiladas before bedtime - Jason!! A happy dream, but a dream, nonetheless............
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Post# 6381-10/4/2001-09:38 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (laundromat favorites smell like...) MESSAGE: TT - I do use the Tide HE powder and like it a lot. It is hard to find here in CT also - this is really liquid territory - but one of our local grocery chains - Shaw's does carry it. You are right - the price is ridiculous - $12.99, so I only buy it with coupons since it NEVER goes on sale. I will tell you a little trick - if you call Lever Brothers and tell them you are having a great deal of trouble finding this and a few more products, they usually offer to send you coupons for freestuff. I got a coupon book the other day with money off of various Lever products and I am expecting my coupon for free Surf Tablets any day now. It also helped that I was on a tear that particular day. Not only was I pissed that I still could not find Surf Tablets, but I was apoplectic that they have discontinued Lifebuoy and Lux bar soaps. As an aside - Lifebuoy used to be sold in packages of three 4.5 ounce bars for $1.39. Well, Lever sold the rights to Lifebuoy to the Vermont Country Store, who has it in their catalog now for - - get this... $1.50 per bar and each bar is 2.9 ounces!!! So after I got done with the poor customer service rep from Lever, Surf coupons was the least he could do!!!!!! I have also had similar coupon success with P&G - you may want to try it.....
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Post# 6382-10/4/2001-09:47 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: WP Duet (Zippered Clutch) MESSAGE: Actually, my clutches are old, heavy duty bank deposit pouches that hold tools very well. Since the training machines are brand new, I don't think I will have to make a scene about dirty hands so I will leave my moist towelettes in the car.
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Post# 6383-10/4/2001-09:50 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (Ad-It???) MESSAGE: Robert, I think I saw something about ordering Persil on the Miele site, but that was long ago so I am not sure. Sorry. I know that CU mentioned that you culd buy it through Miele back when low sudsers were not readily available here, but they said it was really expensive.
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Post# 6384-10/4/2001-10:03 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (lack of love life) MESSAGE: Hey, like my Aunt Anne says, if you're looking for sympathy it can be found between s**t and tough in the dictionary. It just helps to have people you can talk with about different things. And if you love appliances, it REALLY helps to have friends who like to talk appliances because it can sort of divert your mind from the 24 hour hurt from the other things. You are right that grief teaches valuable lessons, but there is no painless form of education for that special knowledge. And yes, there are many people we might have thought of as friends who cannot cope with loss and are not there for us at these times. They have not yet learned some of the lessons we have. Either that or their characters are like WCI products; not solid or dependable.
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Post# 6385-10/4/2001-10:10 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (laundromat favorites smell like...) MESSAGE: Anthony, The Tide is $14 at Target, but only about $11 at WM and I only buy it with dollar off coupons. I have the number to call WM about the store nearest me to ask why they don't carry the stuff. Of course, as poorly stocked as it was, they might carry it but were just out of it. I bought two boxes at WM in the Orlando area when we were down there for the Kitchen and Bath show in the spring. I have been using up the Sears HE stuff. It is not great detergent and keeps sudsing in the rinse. Fortunately I am not doing all, or even the majority of the wash in the FLs, so I still am able to use my old standby, powdered Wisk in my TLs.
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Post# 6386-10/4/2001-11:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (Persil) MESSAGE: Thanks Tom, I found it, here is the link in case anyone else is interested. The packaging looks different than what Mike brought from the UK, I wonder if its a different formula or if the packaging was recently re-designed???
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Post# 6387-10/4/2001-11:03 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (oopsie) MESSAGE: woooopsie, I forgot to post the link...
LINK: http://www.miele.com/usa/laundry/detergent/HE-Laundry.html
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Post# 6388-10/4/2001-11:10 ||| golittlesport (California) SUBJECT:
RE: Westy washes again! (Bob is funny) MESSAGE: Haha! Bob you crack me up with your cute corny puns. You are the king of laundry comedy. Your quip reminded me of a joke my dad (who worked for Westinghouse in their atomic power division) used to tell.
A w
oman opens her refrigerator and finds a rabbit sitting inside helping itself to fresh veggies in the hydrator. "What are you doing in there?" asked the startled woman. "This is a Westinghouse refrigerator, isn't it?" asked the rabbit. "Why, yes it is," replied the woman. The rabbit responded "Well I'm westing."
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Post# 6389-10/4/2001-11:20 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (Only The Best Will Do) MESSAGE: Hi Robert
Do you reeeaally thing I`d bring you old goods.Ha!Ha!
You got the latest matey... Actually it had only been released a week here when I brought it. Its the new Bio Persil that contains Built-In Fabric Conditioner etc...see, just made for those sheets.....
I think the stuff on your link is German, its not our packaging....
Now then, go to this link for "Whats What"
Cheers , Mike
LINK: http://ukplus.com/ukplus/clickcounter.jsp?id=114943&brand=IE&search=persil+washing+powder&pg=0&location=
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Post# 6390-10/4/2001-11:25 ||| appnut (Temple, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: Westy washes again! (Bob is funny) MESSAGE: My dear buddy, that's the basis of my whole quip-that joke. Except the version I heard was a mouse was in there helping himself to the cheese. Thus, my cheesy comments. Have pity on my, I have a-wested-development!!!
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Post# 6391-10/4/2001-11:56 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK) SUBJECT:
RE: Westy washes again! (& Rich) MESSAGE: You two should be on the stage!!!!!
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Post# 6392-10/4/2001-12:02 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: Chat Room MESSAGE: Hey, that's a great idea, a link right on the front page! Unless my ISP shuts down or something, the chat room should remain up and running for the duration.
Only thing I might be concerned with is too much traffic coming through from surfers who stumble across it in search of a place to raise some ruckus. But if there's any indication of that happening, I can password-protect it.
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Post# 6393-10/4/2001-12:42 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.) SUBJECT:
RE: The Washing Machine through a child's eyes (some memories) (The 2nd Golden Age) MESSAGE: Right you are Jason. Today, in our generation, what we are doing right now are cherrishing the washers that we have grown up with when we were children. I still remember our 1967 Kenmore like it was yesterday (and it's been gone for 22 years now). Not only do I still remember our 1967 Kenmore, but I also remember with great fondness my late Great Grandmother's 1976 Speed Queen, and my now great uncle's (he passed away a month and a half ago) Rapidry Frigidaire, as well as my great aunt's 1966-67 Lady Kenmore. Years from now, the next generation after us will be going ga-ga over today's Neptunes, Calypsos, F&Ps, and the Frigidaire/Kenmore F/Ls. If I had a house sort of like Uni's (if not a bit bigger), then I would house my entire collection (see my profile for the machines my collection would entail) in the oversized basement/garage of that house. But now, if I want a collection, and space is a premium, then the machines that have to grace my collection would have to be the 1966-67 Lady Kenmore pair, the 1978 Lady Kenmore "electronic" pair, a 1965-70 Frigidaire Custom Imperial (or the step down model.... I prefer them with dials instead of push buttons) pair, and maybe 1990's Miele pair, a 1998-2001 Frigidaire/Kenmore F/L pair, and the new Kenmore Elite HT3 F/L pair. That's what my scaled down collection would consist of if I had a house, but a more limited space window in which to work with.
--Charles--
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Post# 6394-10/4/2001-12:46 ||| appnut (Temple, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: Westy washes again! (& Rich) MESSAGE: I dunno Mike, our act may be all washed up before the end of the 1st cycle. The spin doctors would probably pann our act, but who knows, Rich, is it worth a try??? At least we'd have Gary & Mike in the audience LOL. Could be my first wrung on the ladder of success LOL
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Post# 6395-10/4/2001-12:56 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (lack of love life) MESSAGE: TT - well said!!!
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Post# 6396-10/4/2001-12:59 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (laundromat favorites smell like...) MESSAGE: TT - for yout TL you may also want to try Cheer with bleach powder. I believe it may now be called Cheer Complete. Does a good job and lighter fragrance than others. But still, I hope you will try my approach and call Lever and P&G's consumer hotlines to but them - you should net a few coupons off of that.........
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Post# 6397-10/4/2001-14:11 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York) SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (lack of love life) MESSAGE: I agree with Robert you will find your way Anthony. I broke up with my lover after being together 17 years. We owned an apartment building, bank accounts, etc., etc,.
Being from the Brooklyn area when you think of your "X" do what I do say: "It's mind over matter" - "I don't mind and you don't matter" (lol), it helps sometimes. This club is a great place to go to laugh and discuss things. I visit many times even thru this World Trade Center attack it was great, sometimes my job gets too much for me around 3:00am I get fed up sometimes so I read the posts to escape for a while. You will be OK!
"Brooklyn Robert"
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Post# 6398-10/4/2001-14:20 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (laundromat favorites smell like...) MESSAGE: Interesting observation about the Sears HE (SHE). I have also noticed some sudsing in the final rinse with this. I wasn't sure what was causing it. What with the Neptune's solid door, I have generally been checking only the wash cycle to monitor sudsing. It's possible I have been adding too much SHE. However I did notice that with heavily soiled jeans and workshirts, I had to add a respectable amount of SHE to get the clothes clean. (like 1.3 measures, or about six ounces). I cut it with STPP 33% so the sudsing is a bit lower than it would be with the full strength product. The clothes seem to come out ok, though, so I'm assuming that even though there are suds in the final rinse, they are extracted in the spin. I wonder if some foaming might also come from the Downy/vinegar solution I use as a fabric softener.
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Post# 6399-10/4/2001-14:54 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK) SUBJECT:
RE: Westy washes again! (& Schnitzels!!) MESSAGE: Hey Bob
Dont forget the "pack" of schnitzels in the audience as well!!
Mike
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Post# 6400-10/4/2001-15:41 ||| appnut (Temple, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (lack of love life) MESSAGE: Geez, with all the negatives on this today, I might as well not even try at all, even for the first time in my life.
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Post# 6401-10/4/2001-15:42 ||| appnut (Temple, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: Westy washes again! (& Schnitzels!!) MESSAGE: Yup, the show is either gonna go to the dogs or we'll get unconditional love from the "pack", plus my spitz.
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Post# 6402-10/4/2001-15:53 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California) SUBJECT:
RE: Westy washes again! (& Schnitzels!!) MESSAGE: WEll, geez louize, if you folks spent more time on washer trivia and less on bemoaning your love lives or lack thereof, maybe we'd have a date for my filter-flo!
;-)
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Post# 6403-10/4/2001-16:18 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands) SUBJECT:
RE: Calypso water use (Philips TL machine(s)) MESSAGE: Well, I'm not sure, but it really sounds like one. Especially since you were talking about two dials. The CC1000 had two dials. These two dials had the same size. And it had indeed two push buttons. I think it was a little wider than my toploader. Mine was 40cms and I believe the CC1000 was 45cms.
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Post# 6404-10/4/2001-16:26 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands) SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (lack of love life) MESSAGE: Another one here!
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Post# 6405-10/4/2001-16:29 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands) SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (Thanks) MESSAGE: I thoroughly enjoyed overflow rinses during the convention!!
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Post# 6406-10/4/2001-16:33 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands) SUBJECT:
RE: Westy washes again! MESSAGE: Greg, you have done a wonderful job on the Westinghouse. Together the washer and dryer make a wonderful couple. I still prefer your SQ set however. Louis
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Post# 6407-10/4/2001-16:57 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: Westy washes again! (& Schnitzels!!) MESSAGE: I sent an email to GE, with the model and serial number of your machine, and asked in what year it was manufactured.
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Post# 6408-10/4/2001-18:30 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA) SUBJECT:
Off to ride the coasters ! MESSAGE: Well, I'm off tomorrow to Pennsylvania to catch the Phoenix PHall Phunphest at Knoebels Amusement Park. This is my other hobby, riding coasters. Of course, there's a campground and I have to check out the washers. When I went to Lake Conneaut this summer they had Speed Queens with the perforated tub. Stainless is a beautiful thing.
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Post# 6409-10/4/2001-18:40 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK) SUBJECT:
RE: Off to ride the coasters ! (More Plashin) MESSAGE: Hi Jason
Enjoy the ride, hope you get a good soakin.......
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 6410-10/4/2001-18:42 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK) SUBJECT:
Santas Comin Early!!!! MESSAGE: Hi All
Guess what I`ve just pre-ordered??????
Week on Wednesday!!!!!!!
Cheers, Mike
LINK: http://www.monotub.com/
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Post# 6411-10/4/2001-18:51 ||| HQOTS (Florida) SUBJECT:
Please esplain Lucy..... MESSAGE: I was looking at the Whirlpool UK site and under the description for the American Top Loader it says it spins at 650, which is equal to a front loader spinning at 950 RPM. How do they get this? If it's true that means my DD spins faster than my Calypso which we all know it does not.
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Post# 6412-10/4/2001-18:57 ||| golittlesport (California) SUBJECT:
RE: Westy washes again! (& Rich) MESSAGE: yeah...we could resurrect vaudeville!!! "Hey Bob"..."Yes, Rich?"..."Did you hear about the lady who got her ____ caught in the wringer?"
I think the audience would throw cheese and carrots at us from the Westinghouse frig! Ha!
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Post# 6413-10/4/2001-19:01 ||| nmaineman36 (Portland Maine) SUBJECT:
RE: The Washing Machine through a child's eyes (some memories) MESSAGE: My fondest memory of my grandmother was her showing me how to use her wringer washers. She would have one washer ..the Bradford wringer do the washing and the Whirlpool wringer to do the rinsing. She would click the wringer head facing the Whirlpool and put the washed clothes thru it and into the Whirlpool they would fall. Then she would start the Whirlpool and the load would be rinsed. But she wasnt done. She had 2 wash tubs with hoses at the bottom. She would have me fill both of them and then she would add bluing to both and she would put the clothes into the tub and overflow them and then drop the hose to the floor and the water would swirl. I thought it was so cool. Her water would always run clear and she told me thats how you know that there is no more soap in your clothes. Makes them last longer. After all that she would pass the clothes back thru the wringer again and upstairs she would go to the Maytag and load it and put the washer to Damp Dry and spin the remaining water out of the clothes so the clothes lines dont sag. To this day I love to hang laundry out. There just is something seeing your clothes flapping in the warm breeze and sunshine.
When she did use her Maytag she would always fill the washer first. When the agitation would start she would open the lid and stop it. Then she grabbed her glass bottle of Bluing and there was an X cut into the cap and she would swish it deep in the water to turn it sky blue. Then she added the Tide and then the clothes. I dont do it that way because to me you have no idea how big your load is going to be and I never overload.
I always load clothes first..unfolded and rightside out so that way it cleans right and socks get unballed. Then I add the detergent and dry bleach and Lafrance if I am washing whites. I always pull the load away from the agitator in my Maytag and dump it near the base of the PowerFin. On the Frigidaire is most convienent ..Open the cap of the agitator and dump it all down the center. I never have detergent residue or the like.
My grnadmother taught me alot in this department and I also inspect every piece when I am done a load before I toss it in the dryer. That way anything that survived as far as stains go wont get baked into the clothes..much like she does.
Mike
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Post# 6414-10/4/2001-19:03 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: Santas Comin Early!!!! MESSAGE: WhooHOOOO!!!
YeeeeHAWWWWWW!!
What a thrill!!!
Now, Mike, I'm expecting to see a pic with your arm stuck in that thing . . .
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Post# 6415-10/4/2001-19:06 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE) SUBJECT:
RE: Santas Comin Early!!!! MESSAGE: It will be interesting to see some action shots with your washing - what color tub did you order?
Congrats and good luck - what will become of the Whirlpool?
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Post# 6416-10/4/2001-19:11 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE) SUBJECT:
RE: The Washing Machine through a child's eyes (some memories) MESSAGE: We always filled the Maytag before adding clothes, detergent was added and thoroughly dissolved before the clothes went in. For most loads other than whites, she would fill with hot to the small setting, warm to the medium level and then hot again to full level. She would also pull the clothes out of the wash water and "store" them in plastic tubs to re-use the wash water. Once all the laundry had been washed, the rinsing would begin. Each load got a spray rinse and deep rinse and full spin dry cycle. She should have had a more featured machine with "Medium" water temp and a suds saver.
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Post# 6417-10/4/2001-19:18 ||| daveuk (Livingston) SUBJECT:
RE: Santas Comin Early!!!! MESSAGE: Oooooh
It's finally on sale then? What's it cost? (If that is on it's website I haven't found it yet, but it isn't working right on my iBook)
I'm sure we'll all be expecting a full review when it arrives!
Dave
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Post# 6418-10/4/2001-19:22 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK) SUBJECT:
RE: Santas Comin Early!!!! MESSAGE: Hi Glen
But at least I wont need to crouch down to stick my hand in the drum now.!!!!...Mike
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Post# 6419-10/4/2001-19:25 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California) SUBJECT:
RE: Westy washes again! (& Schauzers) MESSAGE: Thanks, Greg. One way or another there will be a date!
;-)
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Post# 6420-10/4/2001-19:27 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK) SUBJECT:
RE: Santas Comin Early!!!! MESSAGE: Hi Greg
Yep, the cameras charging as we speak...
The dark blue tub comes with it then you have the choice of the others ,orange, green, light blue.
The Whirly will be making its way to one of three sisters...
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Post# 6421-10/4/2001-19:32 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK) SUBJECT:
RE: Santas Comin Early!!!! MESSAGE: Hi Dave
So you couldnt sleep either.... Price is £695 and £80 for extra tubs, 4 month exclusive with Currys before widespread release.... In shops from next Friday
Cheers, Mike
p.s. Do you know CafeJim???
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Post# 6422-10/4/2001-19:53 ||| daveuk (Livingston) SUBJECT:
RE: Santas Comin Early!!!! MESSAGE: heh, no I can't sleep either, screwed up sleep patterns, don't think the b/f appreciates it much...
That price sounds fairly reasonable actually, for what you're getting. I take it if you don't like it you can send it back?
Dave
PS - I don't know Jim personally, though I have had email from him. I think he's in the US at the moment with his partner and family.
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Post# 6423-10/4/2001-20:01 ||| daveuk (Livingston) SUBJECT:
RE: Please esplain Lucy..... MESSAGE: I think that it means that due to the diameter of the tub, and the speed, that it is similar to a euro size FL machine spinning at a higher speed. I'm not too sure on the physics of it all, but G forces are proportional to speed and diameter (or circumference, cant recall which). There have been several discussions about this over at THS. I'm pretty sure, though, that they are comparing with Euro FL machines, and not, say, the Frigemores, or Neptunes.
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Post# 6424-10/4/2001-20:12 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (lack of love life) MESSAGE: Thanks Robert - I appreciate all the concern. I am coming along fine- not to say that I do not at times feel overwhelmed, but that comes with the turf, and who is not overwhelmed at times these days??? I hope I have not created the impression that I am sitting here wallowing in my own little self pity country club. I only meant to illustrate a point to Jason - and I sure did not intend to create a negative atmosphere - just wanted him to understand that occasionally life deals you a load of crap and you learn to work through it and move along..... Anyone who ever got dumped has 10 stories and some worse than others - I cannot even think of how terrible it would have been to break up a relationship that involved comingled property and money, etc..... Hell, with the integrity level of my ex, I would have probably been taken for broke by now......
Finally, I appreciate all how all of you shared parts of yourselves by teling me of your experiences - means a lot to me. Now, time to go cook up a wash!!!
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Post# 6425-10/4/2001-20:19 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (lack of love life) MESSAGE: Let's not get on the fainting couch here. Yeah - I got burned, as have a lot of people, but that is the risk you take sometimes. It wasn't all negatives you know - - there were many good times over the years. Besides - when you run the risk of falling in love - you also stand to get a lot back if it's the right person. I could see where you would be afraid -even I would have some fear next time around - but that is all the more reason to move forward!!
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Post# 6426-10/4/2001-20:20 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: Westy washes again! (& Schnitzels!!) MESSAGE: !!!!!
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Post# 6427-10/4/2001-20:24 ||| daveuk (Livingston) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (laundromat favorites smell like...) MESSAGE: Quite often you can see suds in the final rinse, it's pretty normal, particularly if you're using softener. If it's *very* sudsy then it probably is detergent residue though. I've seen warnings about it in a couple of washer instruction manuals, telling the user not to worry as it's normal to have some suds in the final rinse.
Dave
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Post# 6428-10/4/2001-20:31 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: The Washing Machine through a child's eyes (some memories) MESSAGE: Mike - same here - nothing like the feel or smell of line dried laundry. And there is something very comforting about watching them billowing in the wind on a sunny day. Almost like they have their own life......
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Post# 6429-10/4/2001-21:05 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California) SUBJECT:
RE: Please esplain Lucy..... MESSAGE: It is a fairly complex cacluation but diameter or circumference indeed do have an effect on G's, but not as much as rpm. Given the propensity of corporate marketing types' loose control of the truth, I would imagine they would have picked the smallest euro fl drum when doing their comparison. And who knows, they might also be factoring in such things as Dyson does, saying that the same size load in each will flatten out more in the the larger tub of the T/L, thereby giving it a bit extra diameter and that much more g-force. And they might be assuming that if one is using an American T/L, then one is also using an American dryer, so the drying time will be shorter and somehow they translate that back to a higher equivalent washer spin speed.
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Post# 6430-10/4/2001-22:05 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE) SUBJECT:
RE: Santas Comin Early!!!! MESSAGE: You must have an orange one! Think of the thrill a collector will have 30-40 years from now to find one of these machines with an orange tub...it may be a moral imperative!
Have fun!
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Post# 6431-10/4/2001-22:19 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: Santas Comin Early!!!! MESSAGE: Get them all! A rainbow of washer baskets!
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Post# 6432-10/4/2001-23:21 ||| appnut (Temple, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: Santas Comin Early!!!! MESSAGE: Well Mike, I expect to see you "armin' the Titan". Kewl washer. What colour(s) of tubs did you order? Far out!!! Can't wait for FULL report on this machine. Had heard over a year ago about this machine with the removable wash basket. How convenient.
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Post# 6433-10/4/2001-00:23 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (laundromat favorites smell like...) MESSAGE: As naive and unknowing as I was back in the 1960's and early 1970's, when high-sudsing Tide was THE detergent, and the rinse on the 1962 Whirlpool was loaded with suds (after a suds-lock in the first spin, no less) . . . I remember thinking, "Wow! That Tide is some good stuff! It even has suds in the rinse for extra cleaning!" (I was using the proper 1-1/4 cups, so the detergent must be working like it should!)
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Post# 6434-10/5/2001-02:08 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX) SUBJECT:
10/5/2001 Picture-of-the-Day MESSAGE: How fun! I didn't realize the 18-pounder started back in the RCA time.
"Pooh-pooh the old-fashioned drudgery!" LOL!
(And technically, that's the basket, not the tub.)
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Post# 6435-10/5/2001-02:19 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York) SUBJECT:
Great Pic. of Day! MESSAGE: I like the pictrue of the day! It's great! Now we know why:
"Whirpool Makes A Better Way To Face A Busy Day"!!!!!!!!!
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Post# 6436-10/5/2001-02:24 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands) SUBJECT:
RE: Santas Comin Early!!!! MESSAGE: Wow, congratulations! We want a full report ofcourse including pictures!!
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Post# 6437-10/5/2001-02:27 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands) SUBJECT:
RE: Please esplain Lucy..... MESSAGE: I think they are talking about G-forces without mentioning them. Since the drum of your DD is wider the spin efficiency is better than a frontloader with the same speed. Your Calypso might spin as efficient as a frontloader with 1000rpm or so.
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Post# 6438-10/5/2001-03:41 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA) SUBJECT:
RE: Great Pic. of Day! (18lb Whirly) MESSAGE: My aunt had one of the 18 pound Whirlpools after the Lady K died. It wasn't as fun as the Lady K but I was amazed at the large tub. It seemed like it took forever to fill with water.
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Post# 6439-10/5/2001-03:45 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA) SUBJECT:
RE: Great Pic. of Day! (18lb Whirly) MESSAGE: Also, the lady in the pic is very cute.
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Post# 6440-10/5/2001-04:00 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK) SUBJECT:
RE: Great Pic. of Day! MESSAGE: Yay, Great Pic of the Day from me too!!!!
Morning Robert, I guess you`re at work, wanted to ask a question about the Thor semi-automatic, did you have to fill it yourself and then advance the dials etc, how did it work???....
I remember seeing an advertisement for one as a kid and it looked like a normal TL but it had a hot & cold pipes from the tap, and into holes on top of the console where the water would fill, rather like how a portable or our twin-tubs would fill.
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 6441-10/5/2001-04:07 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK) SUBJECT:
Vote For your Favorite Titan Tub Colour!!!!!! MESSAGE: Hi all
Thanks for responding about the Titan, awaiting in excitement......
I will order a second Tub, I like all the colours, so I thought "Appliancevillers" could all vote by the end of the weekend and the winning colour Tub will be the first one to be used in the Titan.....
Cleaning the space in anticipation, Mike
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Post# 6442-10/5/2001-06:21 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: 10/5/2001 Picture-of-the-Day MESSAGE: I particularly like the idea of that machine being able to "pamper your dainties"...................... I forgot that people talked like that and ad men wrote copy like that......
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Post# 6443-10/5/2001-07:20 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (laundromat favorites smell like...) MESSAGE: Anthony, I generally stay away from detergent with bleach because it yields fewer loads in a box. If I want to use bleach, I add it. I know that with the Wisk tablets it is already there by the ingredients and it's the same bleach as OXY-CLEAN, sodium percarbonate. Cheer is not on sale as much as Tide or Wisk; is more expensive to begin with here and I like to use coupons when something is either on sale or at a great price. I can't let my laundry habit break my bank. Tom
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Post# 6444-10/5/2001-07:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE) SUBJECT:
RE: Great Pic. of Day! MESSAGE: Mike, here is the pics I took of the Thor Automagic washer/dishwasher Scott and I saw at a museum this last summer. I had some scans of the store display book, but I'm unable to locate them in my yahoo albums right now. It's a neat machine - truly a semi automatic, very similar to your twin tubs.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/threeringagitator/vwp?.dir=/Scott%27s+Visit+to+Nebraska&.dnm=Finally+get+to+touch+a+Thor!.jpg&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/threeringagitator/vwp%3f.dir=/Scott%2527s%2bVisit%2bto%2bNebraska%26.dnm=The%2bDishwashing%2bUnit.jpg%26.src=ph
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Post# 6445-10/5/2001-07:27 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (laundromat favorites smell like...) MESSAGE: If you are using the Sears HE, the suds you see come from it. It seems to have a sudsing factor that keeps going and going. Even though I see suds, I have not had any skin irritation from it so I don't think the detergent is not rinsing out and I use it with Calgon to help it rinse out. It is just a cheap detergent. I guess it is because of the high alkalinity of the Sodium Tripolyphosphate that you are using the vinegar as a sour in the last rinse? Tom
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Post# 6446-10/5/2001-07:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE) SUBJECT:
RE: Great Pic. of Day! (Thor Automagic) MESSAGE: Here are a few pages of the display book for the Thor washer/dishwasher.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Thor+Display+Book&.dnm=Inside+the+Thor+Automajic.jpg&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp%3f.dir=/Thor%2bDisplay%2bBook%26.dnm=Dishwasher%2bChange.jpg%26.src=ph
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Post# 6447-10/5/2001-07:31 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE) SUBJECT:
RE: Vote For your Favorite Titan Tub Colour!!!!!! MESSAGE: Orange!
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Post# 6448-10/5/2001-07:36 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: Westy washes again! (Washer trivia vs human condition) MESSAGE: But which is really more important, our lives or your GE washer's date of manufacture? When somone has suffered serious losses, it is the duty of friends of offer support and that's what we try to do. We try to help with appliance losses too, like helping with parts and techniques to repair machines. This is some support to help rebuild a life or two. I know there is a code for GE's serial numbers, but don't know it. Someone will, sooner or later. I will see what I can find out. Tom
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Post# 6449-10/5/2001-07:46 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: Santas Comin Early!!!! MESSAGE: WOW, it looks big! Now you won't be stuck for two days washing linens from your weekend guests! Enjoy. Tom
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Post# 6450-10/5/2001-07:57 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: Please esplain Lucy..... MESSAGE: Another thing you have to calculate into the mix is how long a given machine spins at its top speed. Very few machines, sepecially newer machines with motors controlled by circuit boards, spin at top speed as long as something like our Unimatics. So what if a machine like my Creda advertized a top spin speed of 1000? The question is how long does it spin at that speed. WHICH said years ago that some machines with lower speeds extracted more water by spinning longer at the lower speed that some others with higher spin speeds that did not spin as long. I remember those first Frigimores that only spun at the top speed for less than a minute. BFD! TT
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Post# 6451-10/5/2001-08:13 ||| appnut (Temple, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: Westy washes again! (Washer trivia vs human condition) MESSAGE: Thanks Tom for so thoughtfully, succintly putting this into perspective this way. Your words even help my pain lessen and know we're here for each other in so many ways.
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Post# 6452-10/5/2001-08:27 ||| appnut (Temple, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: Vote For your Favorite Titan Tub Colour!!!!!! MESSAGE: I vote for orange. I have to admit Mike, it kinda reminds me of a HE3t with removable wash basket. How convenient, to be able to remove the wash basked and retrieve your washing and put it right in and carry it like a regular laundry basket. Kewl.
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Post# 6453-10/5/2001-08:34 ||| peteski50 (New York) SUBJECT:
RE: Santas Comin Early!!!! (Titan) MESSAGE: I don't understand why this machine has the removeable tubs. I saw pics of this before. Why is it they dont use 1 big SS tub?
Someone please explain the pourpose?
Thanks,
Peter
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Post# 6454-10/5/2001-08:37 ||| appnut (Temple, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: Santas Comin Early!!!! (Titan) MESSAGE: Peter, my guess is that it's simply a marketing differentiator. Something to make the machine very unique and colorful.
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Post# 6455-10/5/2001-08:39 ||| appnut (Temple, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: Santas Comin Early!!!! (Titan) MESSAGE: I mean, how handy it is to have your washer tub serve as dual purpose as your laundry hamper or laundry basket. Have multiple tubs?, you can sort your loads right into the basket tht will wash each load. Kewl!!!
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Post# 6456-10/5/2001-08:56 ||| HQOTS (Florida) SUBJECT:
RE: Please esplain Lucy..... MESSAGE: Thanks to all who answered. Now the next thing I am going to do is put a 50 cycle motor on the DD and see what happens. I'm sure it won't be enough speed to make the tub come apart.
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Post# 6457-10/5/2001-09:06 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) SUBJECT:
RE: Santas Comin Early!!!! MESSAGE: That's just wonderful Mike! I can't wait to see the pictures of it in action!
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Post# 6458-10/5/2001-09:11 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands) SUBJECT:
RE: Vote For your Favorite Titan Tub Colour!!!!!! MESSAGE: Orange!!
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Post# 6459-10/5/2001-09:12 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) SUBJECT:
RE: Santas Comin Early!!!! MESSAGE: Yes I agree, my vote goes for the orange one!
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Post# 6460-10/5/2001-09:31 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: Westy washes again! (Washer trivia vs human condition) MESSAGE: Thanks - TT - you're terrific.........
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Post# 6461-10/5/2001-09:32 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: Vote For your Favorite Titan Tub Colour!!!!!! MESSAGE: Orange gets my vote as the favorite flavor!!
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Post# 6462-10/5/2001-09:44 ||| appnut (Temple, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: Vote For your Favorite Titan Tub Colour!!!!!! MESSAGE: Mike, orange you glad you asked us our opinion?
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Post# 6463-10/5/2001-10:38 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX) SUBJECT:
SpamBDamn -- Answer From GE MESSAGE: Thank you for contacting our GE website. I will be happy to
answer your question.
This model washer was manufactured in June of 1978.
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Post# 6464-10/5/2001-10:42 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: Please esplain Lucy..... (Final Spin Times) MESSAGE: The F&P (on Regular and Heavy Duty) hits the full 1000 RPM for a full 6 minutes.
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Post# 6465-10/5/2001-10:43 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: Vote For your Favorite Titan Tub Colour!!!!!! MESSAGE: I'm sorry, I don't recall from visiting their web site some time ago -- is the Titan a combo, such that one can simply pop out the basket with a completely dry load? Or do they have a matching dryer that the basket slips into?
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Post# 6466-10/5/2001-11:20 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) SUBJECT:
RE: SpamBDamn -- Answer From GE MESSAGE: Now why couldn't you have contacted GE yourself instead of waiting for somone else to do it and being rude about it in the bargain? TT
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Post# 6467-10/5/2001-11:44 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: Vote For your Favorite Titan Tub Colour!!!!!! (My Vote) MESSAGE: Is for orange!
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Post# 6468-10/5/2001-12:05 ||| appnut (Temple, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: SpamBDamn -- Answer From GE MESSAGE: Well Rich, I'll be interested to see a pic some day. I bought mine April, 1978.
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Post# 6469-10/5/2001-13:16 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA) SUBJECT:
RE: Santas Comin Early!!!! MESSAGE: Congrats, Mikey! I hope this machine is all it says it is. I'd hate to see you return it for a Dyson Contraband.
I have to break with everyone else for the tub. Of course, you knew that Greg would want the orange one -- it's only a shade off from gold! (No more complaining about gold from you, Gregster!) I have to vote for the aqua. Maybe it's an American thing about having aqua agitators, but I really like that light color tub. Second is the lime! What a great retro color! The orange, while vibrant, is too not-different-enuf for me.
Enjoy! Matzatuf!
-ph
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Post# 6470-10/5/2001-14:21 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York) SUBJECT:
RE: Great Pic. of Day! MESSAGE: Hi Mike;
You had to fill it. There were two different styles of this machine. One had the fill spout in the middle along the back that would rise above the machine like a spout to a faucet and there was a hole in the cover that would allow you to fill it with the cover in place. The other style which is the one we had had the fill spout in the left hand corner opening you had to move it into place, no hole in the cover need. It was agreat machine for apartemnt dwellers. Ours was in the kitchen right next to the sink. It would atach to the faucet and you would adjust the water temp from there and would drain into the kitchen sink, my job as a child was to hold the drain hose in place so it wouldn't move (lol) It had a lever in the front that you would operate and also had time your self. It was to the left for wash and spin and I think if you went to the right it was for dish washer, we didn't have the dish washer attachment. My Grandmother thought you could never get dishes clean unless they were hand washed (lol) "I run my dishwasher everday!" (lol) I hope I was able to answer your question please ask if you still need more information.
"Brooklyn Robert"
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Post# 6471-10/5/2001-14:28 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York) SUBJECT:
RE: Santas Comin Early!!!! (Titan) MESSAGE: Hi Peter;
It might have something to do with saving on buying a laundry basket or a hamper you could sort and wash just by dropping in a tub! (lol)
I hope they have a better reason! (lol) I'm glad your OK! I'm fine also just very tired. We will talk on the phone soon, I only have one day off and it's not enough to do what I have to do!
"Brooklyn Robert"
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Post# 6472-10/5/2001-14:34 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York) SUBJECT:
RE: Santas Comin Early!!!! (Titan) MESSAGE: WOW! I just told Peter that as a joke! Where would you store all the tubs. Some of use live in the City and space is a problem. Some laundry areas are compact, just enough room for the washer and dryer where would you store two or three tubs?
"Brooklyn Robert"
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Post# 6473-10/5/2001-15:05 ||| golittlesport (California) SUBJECT:
RE: Great Pic. of Day! (Thor semi) MESSAGE: Hi Mike
Congrats on your new washer...how exciting. My vote for tub color depends on the kind of load being washed. A white load would look good with the orange and a load of dark colors would do nicely with the light aqua blue. ha!
On your inquiry about the Thor...attached is an ad for the older model with the spout and hole in the lid. I think one of these machines would be great fun to play with. Especiaqlly for the dial pushers among us. You could wash and rinse and spin as long or little as you wanted to. You could have spray rinses that went on and on, over-flow rinses, and conventional rinses to accommodate fabric softener use. And then a 20 minute final spin for maximum water extraction!!!
Cheers to you
Rich
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/golittlesport/vwp?.dir=/Vintage+Ads+%26+other+stuff&.dnm=1951+Thor+semi-automatic.JPG&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 6474-10/5/2001-15:08 ||| golittlesport (California) SUBJECT:
RE: Vote For your Favorite Titan Tub Colour!!!!!! (orange joke) MESSAGE: Hey Bobbie:
"knock, knock"
"who's there?"
"banana"
"banana who?"
"knock, knock"
"who's there?"
"banana"
"banana who?"
"knock, knock"
"who's there?"
"orange"
"orange who?"
"orange you glad I didn't say banana?"
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Post# 6475-10/5/2001-15:09 ||| peteski50 (New York) SUBJECT:
RE: Santas Comin Early!!!! (Hi Robert) MESSAGE: Yes lets try to chat soon.
Peter
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Post# 6476-10/5/2001-15:31 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California) SUBJECT:
RE: SpamBDamn -- Answer From GE MESSAGE: Thanks, Greg. That was nice of you to check. 1978 is earlier than I estimated.
What is GE's email address for future inquiries?
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Post# 6477-10/5/2001-15:34 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California) SUBJECT:
RE: Westy washes again! (Washer trivia vs human condition) MESSAGE: Tom,
Please note the little winking smiley face by my message. It was not intended as a serious comment. Lighten up, we all could use some more humor these days.
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Post# 6478-10/5/2001-15:36 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California) SUBJECT:
RE: SpamBDamn -- Answer From GE MESSAGE: I'll see what I can do in the way of pics. I don't have a digicam, just a few film cameras, but I do have a decent scanner. I'm a bit surprised by the date, since a fridge with matching color and trim dates from '86. But maybe I got the fridge date wrong from GE over the phone.
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Post# 6479-10/5/2001-15:44 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California) SUBJECT:
RE: SpamBDamn -- Answer From GE MESSAGE: TT,
Sorry if you thought my humorous comment was rude. It really wasn't meant that way, although perhaps some others perceived it as rude as well. I can't help that. Of course human problems are more important than washer trivia; but at the same time wallowing in self-pity doesn't help anyone (not that anyone here was doing that), and sometimes people benefit from being distracted from worrying over events over which they no longer have any control.
I didn't email GE because I didn't know that was possible.
I have called them before to date fridges but honestly it was a big hassle to get them to look up older stuff, and then I couldn't be sure it was correct. I thought some people here might be interested in a puzzler of sorts, and also have some insight into the nature of this version of the Filter-flo. I understand it's not as collectible as the ones with solid tubs, but it still has its own certain charm. I thank Dado and others for helping out on this. I wasn't offended when others hijacked the thread to discuss their love lives instead of addresssing the original query. So I didn't think anyone should be offended when I ever-so-gently nudged the conversation back on track ;-).
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Post# 6480-10/5/2001-17:13 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands) SUBJECT:
Picture time MESSAGE: After I returned home from the convention I bought a second hand AEG dryer that matches my AEG washer. I took some pictures and had them finally developped. The dryer is still in the garden (I suppose you could say on the back porch), but when I move I'm planning to place it on the AEG washer. It's a vented dryer unlike my Miele which is a condenser dryer.
Louis
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/lst?.view=t&.dir=/AEG+dryer
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Post# 6481-10/5/2001-17:20 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE) SUBJECT:
RE: Picture time MESSAGE: Cool pics Louis - are you able to use it outside? I've always wondered if that fresh air would give the clothes a nicer smell or if the heating elements would negate that scent. Congrats on the purchase, I love the streamlined styling.
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Post# 6482-10/5/2001-17:27 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (laundromat favorites smell like...) MESSAGE: Well, actually STPP has lower alkalinity than sodium carbonate, which most if not all powder detergents have in abundance. So I use the vinegar to neutralize the sodium carbonate alkalinity although it probably helps with the additional alkalinity provided by the STPP as well. While the STPP tend to lower the pH of the sodium carbonate solution, it will also add more buffering at a higher-than-neutral pH, so it's a "wash" on whether or not more vinegar is needed with my STPP-fortified detergent mix vs. a straight SHE detergent.
I also use vinegar to help reduce the amount of Downy I need to add. It seems to help. Although I've never found I like to completely replace the Downy with vinegar. Some people claim vinegar is all you need, but I find that towels benefit from a dash of Downy - enough to soften them slightly but not make them water-resistant. I run into problems when I wash whites, though. I prefer more softener with the socks/underwear, and this makes the white hand and dish towels a bit too water repellent. I don't generate enough whites to warrant two separate loads in the Neptune. The combined whites load (excluding sheets) is only a half-load as is. This is a case where a smaller washer, ala Bosch or Miele, makes sense, where one could separate the whites that need more softener from those that need less.
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Post# 6483-10/5/2001-17:29 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK) SUBJECT:
RE: Great Pic. of Day! (Thor semi) MESSAGE: Hi Rich
Total controlability or what,what a neat little machine, was it a reciprocal agitator??
What is a "Thor Gladiron" as mentioned in the bottom of the add
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 6484-10/5/2001-17:38 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK) SUBJECT:
RE: Great Pic. of Day! (Thor Washes Longest) MESSAGE: Hi Robert
Thanks for the info, grand little machine, we had nothing like that here, ours where mainly twintubs with seperate spinner like your easy....was it an auto pump say if you where doing overflow rinse???
The semi auto I had seen in an old brochure was remeniscent of your big top-loader, like a normal machine except you had to fill/switchon/dial/fillrinse/spin etc, went under the name or Thor and Parnall.
Mike
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Post# 6485-10/5/2001-17:41 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK) SUBJECT:
RE: Santas Comin Early!!!! (Worried & Concerned!!!) MESSAGE: Hi Tom
Just think all the bedding from even one bed can go straight in the drum....
My only concern is "What do I do with the Watering Can"!!!!!
Mike
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Post# 6486-10/5/2001-17:48 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK) SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (laundromat favorites smell like...) MESSAGE: Vinegar as in Fish & Chips!!!
Are your powders made up of different formulations to ours irespective of Low Foam / High Foam.
Or do we have this same problem but dont know about it????
Cheers Mike
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Post# 6487-10/5/2001-17:54 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: SpamBDamn -- Answer From GE MESSAGE: Well . . . first, a minor correction.
Greg = Gansky1
Glenn = DADoES [yes, the capitalization of the nick is significant - ;-) ]
Next . . . I just went to www.geappliances.com, to the Service section, and found a link to send 'em an email. It's an on-line form, so I don't know for sure what is the address. I have the return address on the answer, but that may be a different addy than to where the questions should be sent.
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Post# 6488-10/5/2001-18:04 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands) SUBJECT:
RE: Picture time MESSAGE: Yes Greg, I have used it about ten times I guess. I use the extension cord that I use to connect the Miele dryer, that one is right behind the back door, you can even see a glimps of it on the first picture.
The clothes don't get a real fresh air smell, it's more that they loose the smell of the detergent more. Actually when the clothes come out they hardly smell at all. I don't know if that is caused by the fact that the dryer is outside or by the way the AEG dryer works. I guess I can only tell after it has been installed in the new apartment. What I do know is that the clothes are softer when they are dryed in the Miele than when they get out of the AEG. But then again clothes from the AEG are less wrinkled. To be continued...
Louis
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Post# 6489-10/5/2001-18:21 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE) SUBJECT:
RE: Westy washes again! MESSAGE: Thanks - The SQ set is by far the most stunning pair in the collection and thus get the prime exposure from the doorway to the south laundry room. I used the westy washer for a couple of "regular" washloads last night and was quite pleased with the results - more washing time is better with this machine so I reset the dial back after a warm fill. I gave both loads a whirl in a better spinning washer, but overall the results were OK. There are certainly better performers, but it is a very fine acheivement for 1949!
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Post# 6490-10/5/2001-18:24 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia) SUBJECT:
OOHH That Home Site MESSAGE: ANyone been reading the posts started By Corvette, over in THS?
Thats why I love this forum, at the end of the day we all LOVE washing machines. (and vacuums)
BTW I would love to see what the new frigidaires look like. There Web site is rather hopeless.
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Post# 6491-10/5/2001-18:28 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia) SUBJECT:
RE: Picture time MESSAGE: Nice Pictures Louis, I hope your moving wanst too stressful.
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Post# 6492-10/5/2001-18:30 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia) SUBJECT:
RE: Westy washes again! MESSAGE: Thanx again Gansky. She looks beautiful. I cant understand though how the slant front westies tangle so much.
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Post# 6493-10/5/2001-18:37 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California) SUBJECT:
RE: SpamBDamn -- Answer From GE MESSAGE: OK, Glenn, got it!
And now you've got me curious. What is significant about the case of DADoES?
[ps-there is no significance in the captialization of my nick, as far as I know all characters are equal, some are just more equal than others]
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Post# 6494-10/5/2001-19:01 ||| tucker (San Diego) SUBJECT:
Check out this cool 71 Whirlpool wringer... MESSAGE: I had no idea companies even made them this late in the game. Perhaps there are people who just couldn't get used to an automatic =)
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1279988831
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Post# 6495-10/5/2001-19:12 ||| HQOTS (Florida) SUBJECT:
RE: Check out this cool 71 Whirlpool wringer... MESSAGE: They made wringers until the early 80's.
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Post# 6496-10/5/2001-21:01 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE) SUBJECT:
RE: Westy washes again! MESSAGE: I think it's because of the slanted tub and the way in which the clothes tend to float in the water and over to the left side of the drum in it's clockwise rotation. The scrubbing dome either contributes to or prevents more tangling, I haven't decided which yet. I didn't have a lot of tangling, but I sort mostly by color - not individual items, with the exception of bath towels. Jeans, shirts, shorts, etc. are all washed in the same load, not separated into their own loads. The white load I did had a set of twin sheets, t-shirts, underwear, kitchen towels a bunch of socks. I thought the sheets would have wrapped themselves into a knot large enough to be in a prison movie, but they came out fine.
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Post# 6497-10/5/2001-21:58 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.) SUBJECT:
RE: SpamBDamn -- Answer From GE MESSAGE: Hmm...... I guess I have some disappointing observations on your response to TT and the rest of us, for that matter:
- It wasn't that I found your humorous comment rude - it was just that I found your rude comment not humorous. If it seems that people were offended and you did not mean to offend, perhaps the problem is not with our perceptions, but with your delivery - you know, not "what you say but how you say it". And yes, you CAN help that - by selecting terminology that is less evaluative and judgmental.
- I won't even waste anyone's time discussing "wallowing in self pity" or "worrying about events over which they longer have control" . As you said, no one here was doing that and of course, distractions are welcome and necessary. This is why I am so pleased to have found this forum. But you just cannot pretend that these life events did not occuror proclaim them taboo for mention or reference - that doesn't make them go away either.
- Most puzzling is your comment that "you were not offended when others "hijacked" the thread to discuss their love lives instead of addressing the original query". I have re-read this several times and it sounds like you were pretty offended to me. Besides that, no one ignored your query. Your question was answered in what I think was a very timely manner. And b/t/w, the conversation was never really "off track" - - it did not need to be nudged, pushed or dragged anywhere (and your "nudge" was anything but gentle). Part of having an open forum is that a lot of different topics will come up. Maybe they won't always be directly related to appliances - but that's life. You in turn, have the choice to read or ignore posts you feel are not absolutely relevant. And for the record, I offered my recent experiences to help someone who was feeling bad about themselves that day. Others then reached out in friendship and shared pieces of themselves. I think that was pretty remarkable - all that and you even got your answer!!!
Just one final thought - I think that the last few weeks have made us all feel more vulnerable and those that have had losses this year maybe felt those losses all over again. We would be wise to try and treat each other and ourselves with more patience and kindness...........
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Post# 6498-10/5/2001-22:20 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia) SUBJECT:
RE: SpamBDamn -- Answer From GE MESSAGE: Wouldnt it be easier to read the posts that apply to you rather than the ones that dont. If something doesnt really interest me I just skip it, like for example I have no idea when everone talks about detergents such as tide and wisk and gain though through this forum i have learned their names at least. So i just read the next post. Its much easier than getting your undies in a tangle.
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Post# 6499-10/5/2001-22:45 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California) SUBJECT:
RE: SpamBDamn -- Answer From GE (take it to email?) MESSAGE: Arrrooohhh & Angus & whoever,
Check your email.
Thanks.
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Post# 6500-10/5/2001-22:46 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX) SUBJECT:
RE: SpamBDamn -- Answer From GE (Nicknames) MESSAGE: DADoES = "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?"
The book by Philip K. Dick upon which the movie Blade Runner was based.
LOL! I know several "characters" who are more equal than others. ;-)
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Post# 6501-10/5/2001-22:51 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California) SUBJECT:
RE: SpamBDamn -- Answer From GE (Electrosheep?) MESSAGE: Well, that's one movie and a book that completely escaped my notice. Now I might just have to find a copy of one or the other. I'm not sure androids could dream, although sometimes I suspect my Neptune 7500 dreams of new, as yet unprogrammed cycle combinations. And I think once I dreampt about the Neptune, but that's a personal problem.
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Post# 6502-10/5/2001-23:47 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: SpamBDamn -- Answer From GE (Opinions and Posts and Such)
MESSAGE: Wellll, ya know . . . it all goes all kinds of ways. Everybody has an opinion, and it's their right to state it. Sometimes an opinion comes across sounding "uppity" or absolute, and of course, nobody ever intends to sound like that. ;-)
Gathering opinions is part of what helps us get to know each other, so that can be a good thing. Message threads do sometimes get off-topic and personal, which is part of the closeness and caring we all have for each other, and as arrrooohhh suggest, one can just skip over those.
We all share a unique interest, and that is our anchor, regardless of what else may be brought into the discussion.
And . . . that . . . is . . . my . . . opinion!
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Post# 6503-10/5/2001-01:14 ||| spiralator60 (Los Angeles, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Vote For your Favorite Titan Tub Colour!!!!!! (Titan Questions)
MESSAGE: Mike,
My vote is for the aqua tub.
There are a few questions that I would like to ask you about the Titan:
1) The information on the Titan site said that the removeable tub is made of reinforced plastic. How sturdy is the tub? Is the material that like that of, say a motorcycle helmet? It seems like it would have to be in order to stand up to the punishment that a typical program would subject the tub to, with items tumbling around and such inside of it.
2) The tub is described as being on an angle in the machine, for ease of loading and unloading. How much is it inclined? The tub of my Maytag Neptune is at an angle of 15 degrees from horizontal, and for me, this is quite convenient.
3) How heavy is the removeable tub? It does seem like a good idea to be able to use the tub as a basket, especially if you have to take clothes from one end of the house to another to put them in the washer. But not everyone works out, and a loaded tub might be too heavy or cumbersome for some users. This would not be a deterrent for me, but it might for someone else.
The Titan machine sounds interesting, and I would definitely like to take a closer look at it. Please keep us informed. There was an announcement in one of the popular technology magazines, last year, about the product. It is nice to know that it was not just another rumor.
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Post# 6504-10/5/2001-01:41 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture time
MESSAGE: Arrrooohhh, I haven't moved yet. Louis
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Post# 6505-10/5/2001-01:47 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westy washes again!
MESSAGE: I think the tangling in the Westies is mainly caused by the fact that they tumble only one way for the whole cycle.
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Post# 6506-10/6/2001-02:05 ||| spiralator60 (Los Angeles, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (Price Comparisons)
MESSAGE: The prices that you mentioned are close to what we see in Southern California. Most supermarkets charge about $14-15 for the powdered Tide HE and the liquid version is just under $13 for the 125 ounce bottle. Depending on which store you go to, it it is sometimes hard to find both the liquid and powder Tide HE at Wal-Mart (or its sibling Sam's Club). The same is also true for Target and the Super K-Mart stores, where the prices are about a dollar or so under what the supermarket prices are. Lately, Target and K-Mart have been fighting it out in their store displays as well as in court about who really has the lower prices. Tide tablets seem to be immune from this pricing dispute, as both the regular and bleach versions are about the same price everywhere, and expensive is the best way to put it.
Wisk HE is pretty much constant in price where ever you buy it. In the supermarkets it is usually around $8.50 for the now rounded 100 ounce bottle. When it and other Lever products (Surf, All, Snuggle) are discounted at stores like Vons, the price is $5.99. This is also the price that Target, Wal-Mart, and K-Mart have been charging. This discounted price is true for liquid, powder and tablet (except for the 100+ load box).
The Surf tablets that appeared about a month ago have been selling for around $6.50 for a 24 tablet box. At the stores where it is being carried, this appears to be an introductory price. This is in the same price ballpark as the Wisk with Bleach tablets, also in a 24 tablet box. So far, this is the only size in which either of these products has been available. I have seen only two different fragrances for the Surf tablets (apart from the liquid and powder versions), the "basic" and a floral scent, both of which state their compatability for use in HE washers.
The Purex tablets are also available here, in a 24 tablet box that is priced a little under $6. This is also being touted as an HE product. The general strategy that Dial has been using has been to present the Purex brand products as a low priced alternative to P&G and Lever products in local ads. Also, much is being made of the speed at which the tablets dissolve versus the competition - Tide and Wisk tablets. I have not yet used this product, but did buy a box a few months ago at the introductory price of $4.99.
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Post# 6507-10/6/2001-02:13 ||| spiralator60 (Los Angeles, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally together! (Agitator Question)
MESSAGE: Congratulations! The pair looks terrific together. Does the washer have the Super Roto-Swirl agitator or another agitator?
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Post# 6508-10/6/2001-02:29 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
GE e-mail addy
MESSAGE: Just for reference, the return addy on the messsage about spambdamn's Filter-Flo date is --
answerctr@exchange.appl.ge.com
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Post# 6509-10/6/2001-02:33 ||| spiralator60 (Los Angeles, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE Americana 'Dispensall' (Dispensall Design?)
MESSAGE: Tom,
Is this problem of caking of deposits still an issue with machines today? Was this just a matter of the way that the feature was designed? I know that dispensers now work differently than did the Dispensall system, but what about the dispenser drawers of the current front loading machines? Living in a hard water area, I am well acquainted with this type of problem also happening in the kitchen.
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Post# 6510-10/6/2001-03:21 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
On the road (off topic)
MESSAGE: I created an album called foraloysiusontheroad that contains a few albums with pictures that I took at various places. One place is a chapel in Dokkum, the town where I was born. This chapel is dedicated to St. Boniface that was killed in 754 near Dokkum. There is a well that is supposed to have healing power (I'm not religious, so I don't guarantee anything). I also scanned a leaflet that explains a few things about the chapel.
In another album there are a few pictures of a house that was designed by the New York architect John Hejduk in 1973. He never managed to realize it. A few years ago the town where I live decided to build it. Unfortunately John Hejduk died before it was built, so he never saw it built.
I hope you enjoy the pictures
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysiusontheroad/lst?.dir=/&.src=ph&.view=t
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Post# 6511-10/6/2001-06:08 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: SpamBDamn -- Answer From GE
MESSAGE: Well, yes it would -that's part of what I meant......
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Post# 6512-10/6/2001-06:11 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: SpamBDamn -- Answer From GE (Opinions and Posts and Such)
MESSAGE: Well said - our common interest is the core of this whole thing.
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Post# 6513-10/6/2001-06:29 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (Price Comparisons)
MESSAGE: Funny - ourprices here in the Northeast are just a notch lower on the Tide HE products. The powder is priced at $12.99, whether in a supermarket or the "marts" - (K and Wal). Like you we can't find both powder and liquid in the same supermarket. Here in Ct we are dominated by two regional chains - Shaw's and Stop & Shop - so we have fewer options. No Super K-Marts or Super Wal-Marts yet - hell we only got the first Wal Mart 3 years ago. B/T/W - the TideHE never goes on sale here.
The WiskHE is much more attractively priced - regularly $6.59 for the 100 oz bottle. Often it can be found on sale in our supermarkets at 2 for $10.00. Surf tabs are still hard to find here - I did find a lone box in K-Mart, priced at $5.49 - but the Wisk tabs run $8.59. My understanding is that for now, Surf tabs will not come in a bleach formulation
In most cases, I am not a big Purex detergent fan, but I have been impressed with the cleaning and brightening of the tablets. Also, while I have not noticed any actual problems wiht the Wisk and Surf tablets, the Purex tabs do dissolve almost immediately even in warm water.....
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Post# 6514-10/6/2001-07:04 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (More Info Needed)
MESSAGE: According to your serial #........L means the month of June and D represents the year 1982.
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Post# 6515-10/6/2001-07:21 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (More Info Needed)
MESSAGE: Ooops,disregard the earlier message....I screwed it up!!! The 2nd letter 'D' in the serial code represents 1978...so your washer was made in June of 1978. The letter that designates the year repeats every 12 years with GE, so 'D' has also applied to 1966, 1990; and we will see it again in 2002.
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Post# 6516-10/6/2001-08:25 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (More Info Needed)
MESSAGE: Interesting ..... I hope by 2002 that GE does something constructive to improve their quality. Is it just me or has anyone noticed that the appliance graveyards seem to be loaded with recent (1992 and later model) GE/Hotpoint/RCA washers and dryers???? Or that these dryers and recent model Frigidaire (WCI) gas dryers seem appear to have combusted in some fashion?? Just curious..................
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Post# 6517-10/6/2001-08:53 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (More Info Needed)
MESSAGE: In the appliance store this week there was a 96 Hotpoint washer that was traded in on a new machine. We hooked it up, filled it with clothes and IT WORKED! I could not believe my eyes. It actually agitated without spinning, didn't leak and it spun the load out very quietly. The rubber straps weren't broken either. We could not believe our eyes. So we added more clothes, and more clothes and the silly thing just kept on working through 6 loads. We figured there was a mistake at the GE plant. I quickly put the machine on the floor for sale.
I was leaning towards keeping it. It would have been nice to have it as the one new design machine that actually worked. Maybe even put it in the museum.
I will admit there are a few things that I liked about the machine though. When it went into spin, it went and it went fast. The clothes had to be peeled from the tub. The other thing that I really liked was the galvanized steel cabinet. As far as I know, GE and Kitchenaid are the only two who use galvanized steel for the cabinets. Oh and the drain pump, that thing is fast, real fast. But that does not mean I would own one.
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Post# 6518-10/6/2001-09:49 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westy washes again! (The Tangle Dome)
MESSAGE: Louis, Do you remember at the convention when we were using the Westy and the Bendix? Was there a difference in the tangling between the two machines? I don't have my little Bendix installed so I can't compare the two side by side. When I was using the little Bendix, I don't remember the tangling being a big problem, but then again, I didn't use it for much as it's such a pitiful washer/rinser/spinner, it quickly was unhooked and pushed aside for something else. The Bendix has a much smaller drum, which doesn't help at all, but my Duomatic tumbles in one direction and tangling isn't really an issue there. I've used a Wascomat bi-directional tumbler quite a bit and have never had problems with tangling there. Maybe we'll have to do some test loads in all the machines!
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Post# 6519-10/6/2001-09:54 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: On the road (off topic)
MESSAGE: Very neat pics - thanks Louis! I loved Wall House, is it a private residence? Did you go up to the door and ask them what kind of washer and dryer they had? ;-)
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Post# 6520-10/6/2001-10:03 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (More Info Needed)
MESSAGE: I'm seeing more and more of them at the appliance store I frequent also. I asked the guys there and was told simply that shi* splatters. They don't have a lot of respect for GE or Frigidaire (WCI) laundry products - obviously...
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Post# 6521-10/6/2001-10:29 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westy washes again! (The Tangle Dome)
MESSAGE: Greg,
I don't know about the tangling in the Bendix anymore. But I guess you could be right that the Bendix has less tangling problems. I guess it's a combination of a tilted drum and the one direction tumbling. We'll let Rich do the test, on the convention he did a wonderful job with the shirts tangling test as you can see in the picture.
Louis
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/convention01/vwp?.dir=/Jetcone+%26+Uni%27s+Convention+Photos+Part+1&.dnm=30+Rich+Does+the+Tangle+Test.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 6522-10/6/2001-10:37 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: On the road (off topic)
MESSAGE: Yes, the Wall House is supposed to be a private residence, but I believe it isn't sold yet ($600,000.-). This month there is an architectual project going on in Groningen and part of it is that the Wallhouse is open for the public. The link goes to the site about the house, there are a few pictures of the inside too, which is not very spectacular I think. The washer and dryer are supposed to be put in the dressingroom which is open to the bedroom. And the only way you can get a washer in is through the door that opens from the bedroom to the garden (the bedroom is on the first floor), but that door is quite narrow. Not a lot of room for washing machines in there!
LINK: http://www.wallhouse.nl/english/index.html
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Post# 6523-10/6/2001-10:57 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: On the road (off topic)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the link to the inside pictures - pretty austere, needs some color - throw away those white gowns and boas, you'd look washed out and pale in this house! I was thinking the other day about planning a house that would accomodate a few dozen appliances - would be fun to build something like that, guess I'll have to keep buying those lottery tickets!
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Post# 6524-10/6/2001-10:59 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westy washes again! (The Tangle Dome)
MESSAGE: I love that picture! When we were going to start that machine, Robert handed me that load of shirts and I commented that the final outcome would be a rope of shirts. It was fun for the convention, but imagine having that be your only washer! No wonder that machine was in such good shape - it was hardly used!
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Post# 6525-10/6/2001-11:18 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: On the road (off topic) (It's getting on topic here!)
MESSAGE: I have dreams about building a house with many appliances too. Ofcourse there would have to be a huge laundryroom, but a washer/dryer in each bathroom would be nice too. Even if you would only use them for the towelettes. Having three dishwashers in the kitchen makes sense too as was mentioned earlier (I think it was Tom). Nice fridges, stoves etc. and many of them vintage ones. Unfortunately classis appliances are rare overhere in the Netherlands, so I would have to import a few American ones. I bet there would be some Speed Queens and Frigidaires among them.
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Post# 6526-10/6/2001-11:48 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (More Info Needed)
MESSAGE: Hang onto that baby - sounds like there was a grave quality control error made at the factory!!!!!
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Post# 6527-10/6/2001-12:38 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: SpamBDamn -- Answer From GE
MESSAGE: And it works both ways, doesn't it?
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Post# 6528-10/6/2001-12:41 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (More Info Needed)
MESSAGE: AHA!
The plot thickens!
Thanks!
We have GE saying it's 1978, and an expert in decoding S/N's saying it's 1982. And not just 1982, but June of 82. While I thank Glenn for his GE date research, I think I like your date better! :-)
And to think I almost skipped your message!
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Post# 6529-10/6/2001-12:45 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (More Info Needed)
MESSAGE: Hey, maybe I SHOULD have skipped your first message, LOL!
OK, this is actually better. I'd hate to see you, GE, and DADoES get into a holy war over this filter-flo date stuff.
(Note to self - that was a joke)
June of '78 it is. The Harvest Filter-flo Lasted all the way to Feb of 2001, after which it was ceremoniously relocated to the carport to make way for a Bisque Neptune 7500. Can't complain about 23 years of service, even if in the last year the old FF was starting to get a little senile, overfilling its tub occasionally and annointing the laundry closet floor with its ablutions. I figure it's probably just a faulty water level sensor, or maybe a foreign object in its sensing apparatus (if that is possible).
Thanks again!!!
Rich
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Post# 6530-10/6/2001-12:52 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (More Info Needed)
MESSAGE: I have a 1989 WCI gas dryer that has worked just fine for years. It's been retired only because I got the Neptune set.
When I bought it, I did notice it ran a bit hot on the high setting, so I hardly ever used that setting. I just set it to Medium and it worked just fine.
I did notice that the Neptune dryer blew a big clot of lint out of the exhaust vent. So I'm wondering if these self-comubusting WCI dryers happen because of clogged exhaust vents. The Maytag dryer obviously has a more powerful blower (and sounds like it). I guess I'm lucky I replaced the WCI when I did, as the lint clump might have eventually led to overheating and a fire. I had started to notice that the dryer cabinet was running warmer, and taking longer to dry loads... Moral of this story - dryer exhaust vents should probably be checked on an annual basis, no matter what dryer is attached to them, and cleaned as needed.
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Post# 6531-10/6/2001-12:54 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: On the road (off topic)
MESSAGE: $600,000 will buy you a shack in Silicon Valley... ;-)
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Post# 6532-10/6/2001-13:22 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (Dryer lint)
MESSAGE: Those evil, awful WCI dryers are known for that. A lot of the lint passes by the lint filter clogging everything. I don't know why they even bother putting a filter in the machine. The new GE's are known for that too. Seen one where the opening for the blower opening was reduced to about 1 1/2 inches from lint build up, and they wondered why it didn't dry. My Maytag was the same way.
I am not a big fan of lint filters in dryers anyway. I remove the ones from my dryers and let everything go outside. Being that the exhaust is very short there is little possibility for clogging.
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Post# 6533-10/6/2001-15:26 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (More Info Needed)
MESSAGE: That clogged vent thing is one of if not the leading cause of home fires as has been reported by our local news station. I dismantle and clean mine every year and am always amazed at what actually accumulates in the vent pipe. I wonder, though, if my old GE had a more powerful fan/blower than my new Amana. While I do like the Amana quietness and enormous stainless drum, the old GE dried a bit faster - perhaps just ran hotter (we have electric here)
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Post# 6534-10/6/2001-15:35 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (Dryer lint)
MESSAGE: Interesting comment on the WCI dryers and lint. Do you know if this is the case on the newer Frigidaire (or Sears or GE label) dryers made to go with the front loading washers? Several of my friends have those sets under any and all of those nameplates, some gas and some electric. All complain that the dryers take a long time to dry (I did notice this myself)and that small items (facecloths, socks) sometimes get caught in a small space between the front of the drum and the cabinet. I have not seen this so I cannot explain it any better but it sounds like it might be slightly hazardous. For my friend who bought the gas model, it took 3 delivery tries to get one without a cracked igniter.............
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Post# 6535-10/6/2001-16:03 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (Dryer lint)
MESSAGE: They redesigned the dryer in 1988 and that one is still being made today. it is the same as the one that goes with the front loader.
I had the Kenmore set and sold it to a very nice lady. When I installed it I made sure to go on the roof and clean out the vent and remove the stupid little screen that is part of the vent hood.
The dryer takes a long time to dry because it has a lower watt element to help prevent burning of the clothes. If I remember correctly it is about 1000 watts less than a Whirlpool dryer. I would imagine they had to lower the output of of the gas burner for the same reason too.
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Post# 6536-10/6/2001-16:25 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (Dryer lint)
MESSAGE: That screen on the vent hood can be a real problem. A contractor friend of mine changed my roof vent for me, but didn't tell me that the new one had a screen over the opening. Well, it took only a mater of a few weeks before I noticed that my drying times were almost doubled. Now I am no engineer or am I mechanically inclined in any way. So I washed and then dried the same test load in all of my neighbors' dryers (they really loved me for that - you should have seen some of the looks I got) recording times as I went along. Since my dryer exhausts through the attic and out the roof, I then disconnected the vent pipe midway up the laundry room wall near the ceiling, covered the opening of the vent pipe with an old pair of mom's pantyhose to catch the dust, etc... and dried the test load. All test drying times were approximately equal. Conclusion - something was blocking the air movement and not from inside since I had just cleaned everything. It took two hours of arguing with my friend just to get him to go up to the roof and look at the vent hood ( I am petrified of heights - so I was never setting foot up there). Needless to say he brought down the screen covering the opening with about two solid inches of lint on it. Drying times are now back to normal and I probably saved some of his clients a lot of aggrevation. Funny - it never occured to him that the screen works both ways - it does keep animals out, but of course it will trap hot, wet lint. Probably best suited to range hood exhaust, though over time grease build up may be an issue...............
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Post# 6537-10/6/2001-16:40 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (Dryer lint)
MESSAGE: Maybe it's a Florida thing but here we have flaps on the roof vents that open and close. That is just another reason why I see no use for a screen on the hood.
I also find it amazing how many people never knew to clean the exhaust system of a dryer. Don't they read the owners manual?
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Post# 6538-10/6/2001-16:44 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (Death-Wish Ductwork)
MESSAGE: We have had the same PSA type stories on the local stations here too. I will never understand why engineers and architects design homes with laundry rooms positioned in such a way that the dryer ductwork must run through enclosed ceiling/joist spaces for 20+ feet at times. Especially given the obvious fire dangers, it's a wonder that dryer ducting doesn't fall within strict building codes. There are companies here that clean ducts (for a nice fee) and I'm sure they've seen some amazingly dangerous runs. One house in particular that I've seen has the dryer vent run down through the floor and inside an enclosed basement rec-room ceiling for approx. 40 feet to the back of the house when the dryer sits on an outside wall at the front. I guess the risk of fire, death and destruction is preferable to having an unsightly vent on the front facade of the home.
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Post# 6539-10/6/2001-16:50 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (Dryer lint)
MESSAGE: No, they don't read the owners manual. Where we used to live, a neighbor with 4 kids lost everything when their dryer vent blockage caused a fire. They only had an eight foot run up and out the basement wall - perfectly accessible to be cleaned quickly. They lived in a condo/townhouse and didn't carry insurance on their personal property, so had to start over with nothing. They'll never have a blocked vent again.
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Post# 6540-10/6/2001-17:04 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (Death-Wish Ductwork)
MESSAGE: That is very common here. It's better to have the roof vent than to have it sticking out the front or side of the house. What is even funnier is when they build the laundry room in the middle of the house. Why not in the garage?
I went to one house where the washer and dryer were in the garage in a little L shaped area. The washer and dryer were placed along the long part of the L and a roof vent was used. Now the stupid part is that they could have run 2 feet of rigid exhaust pipe behind the washer and had it exhaust thru the wall. They burned up 3 dryers before anyone said to clean the vent.
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Post# 6541-10/6/2001-17:07 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (Dryer lint)
MESSAGE: No it's not just a Florida thing- we have flaps on our roof vents also. But what does happen here is that birds will sometimes nest in the hood - so will wasps for that matter so the flap either doesn't open or opoens only a little bit. That's why someone got the big idea of the screening....... I am lucky or just warped - I can sense when the vent pipe needs cleaning and I know when drying time is off even by a few minutes that I need to have the roof vent checked for obstructions............ And no, you would not believe how people do not pay attention to things like reading owners manuals or safety warnings. To many, my own sister included, proper usage of appliances, etc... hold no interest. Even my contractor friend insisted I was being neurotic when I tried to explain my vent hood problem - it was apparently too much picky detail and required too much precious time to understand - his immediate response was that something was wrong with my dryer..... But being annoyingly persistent has its benefits. I got a free dinner out of it and taught him something in the process.
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Post# 6542-10/6/2001-17:13 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (Death-Wish Ductwork)
MESSAGE: I have the same question. Maybe the idea of contractors worrying about laundry related safety seems too "soft" to them and besides those fires always happen to "someone else", now, don't they? I guess I am luckier - mine only exhausts a total of 15 feet and it is a straight run up and out. What about those people who are still using plastic tubing and exhausting 500 miles? I think our local codes permit maximum exhaust distance of 30 feet for electric and 15 feet for gas dryers with no more than two elbows. Of course, plastic tubing and foil are not permitted - only rigid aluminum and flexible aluminum are used.
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Post# 6543-10/6/2001-17:19 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (Death-Wish Ductwork)
MESSAGE: For whatever it;s worth, I still think 15 feet is kind of a long distance, so I am planning some renovation that will put the laundry on an outside wall - - and of course allow space for a few additional machines. I am guessing that one of my elderly neighbors may still have her 1959 Philco-Bendix Automagic Dryer - after all, she hasn't replaced anything else in 40 years. In fact that was the only Automagic I ever saw before or since... I guess Philco- Bendix was not as popular here in CT. Sometimes I think my state is home only to people who own Maytag toploaders and use Tide liquid (regular formula only!!!)
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Post# 6544-10/6/2001-18:44 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (middle-of-house laundry)
MESSAGE: I have a friend who has a laundry "closet" in the middle of his house. He has 4" PVC pipe underground for the vent. I don't know how long it is, but I'd say a good 20 feet to where it comes out/up at the side of the house. Sometimes it gets filled with water during a heavy rain, if the yard floods.
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Post# 6545-10/6/2001-18:46 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (Death-Wish Ductwork)
MESSAGE: My dryer is on an outside wall. The dryer exhaust port and the opening in the wall are offset just a bit. I have short bit of foil flex-duct on it.
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Post# 6546-10/6/2001-19:07 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (middle-of-house laundry)
MESSAGE: There is an appartment complex here that has that set up. I put two 90 elbows together to keep the rain from getting in the pipe.
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Post# 6547-10/6/2001-19:53 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
Speaking of Vintage Detergents...
MESSAGE: I went to three sales this weekend, the last one was the best. I found a whole box full of older and vintage detergents and soaps. This same house had a beautiful 1950's Speed Queen wringer washer that was already sold. Here's a pic of the stuff I brought home, many are never used. This makes about the 6th bottle of Cold Power liquid I've found. They have all been free samples and all but one was unopened - was it truly that bad?
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/New+pics&.src=ph&.dnm=Today%27s+Featured+Products.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/New%2bpics%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 6548-10/6/2001-19:59 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Speaking of Vintage Detergents...
MESSAGE: Kewl! Love the Fab and Oxydol and Axion. Didn't know there was Cold Power liquid.
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Post# 6549-10/6/2001-20:10 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Speaking of Vintage Detergents...
MESSAGE: I remember the Era, Fab, Tide
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Post# 6550-10/6/2001-20:11 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Speaking of Vintage Detergents...
MESSAGE: and Ivory Snow.
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Post# 6551-10/6/2001-21:48 ||| steved (Albany NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (WCI redesigned dryers)
MESSAGE: Hey, all...actually, the dryer change for Frigidaire in 1988 was from the Franklin/Kelvinator crap to the traditional Westingouse designs that dated back to the 60's. My 1991 Frigidaire dryer design (got the matching washer too, don't yell at me, guys!!!) is virtually identical to my moms Westinghouse Stacking dryer from the early 70's. I believe, however, that some major changes were made a few years ago when the reversible door design was introduced. The front opening and lint filter set up is different. But I think the drum construction is the same. Gotta check my literature files.......SteveD
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Post# 6552-10/6/2001-21:52 ||| steved (Albany NY)
SUBJECT:
(sigh!)
MESSAGE: As you can see, it's 11PM on a Saturday and I'm reading posts while the b/f is sleeping on the sofa in front of the tv.....
...I have no life.....lol SteveD
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Post# 6553-10/6/2001-22:23 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Speaking of Vintage Detergents...
MESSAGE: That was quite a haul on the vintage detergents. I have never seen stuff like that at tag sales here in CT. Too bad about the Speed Queen wringer washer - would have been a great addition. I cannot say whether Cold Power liquid was that bad. That was certainly a product that was never available in the Northeast. Since Omaha was a popular test market city, maybe that was a test market product in the Omaha area that never went national. Overall, the early liquids (Wisk, Cold Water All and Dynamo) available in our area were disappointing cleaners although they were good for pretreating greasy stains. I do recall that the Cold Power powder was available here in the NE from 1964 through the late 80's. But I also remember that my mother used only half of the sample box she received and threw the rest away. She claimed it cleaned OK, but the clothes were not "bright enough" - even when she used it in warm or hot water. And over the years as Consumer Reports tested detergents, Cold Power never really rated all that well. So, I can only assume that the liquid wasn't that much better. I did like the packaging though, with the big wave on the front. I liked it even better in the 80's when they changed to a navy blue box and the product actually improved considerably over the years also...... As an aside, I understand that here in the US, Cold Power is only available in North Carolina as a lower price point non concentrated brand, much like Ajax powder is available here.......
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Post# 6554-10/6/2001-22:29 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: (sigh!)
MESSAGE: Well, you've got us......... I just got finished cooking for the week - it was such a cold, gray day here I felt the need to make a couple of pots of chili - meat and vegetarian, as well as the Italian version of comfort food - broccoli rabe and sausage. And of course watching the TV Land Dick van Dyke 40th anniversary marathon. Oh, and let's not forget the four loads of wash I did and will hang tomorrow .......
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Post# 6555-10/6/2001-23:16 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: (sigh!)
MESSAGE: LOLOL. I've almost got your scenario duplicated over here.
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Post# 6556-10/6/2001-23:28 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
Interesting Discussion
MESSAGE: Check this out.
LINK: http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/appl/msg1011151827701.html?25
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Post# 6557-10/6/2001-00:31 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture time
MESSAGE: Love the outside appliance Louis, I've been meaning to install some outside machines myself.
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Post# 6558-10/6/2001-00:33 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westy washes again! (Performance, smaformance)
MESSAGE: Performance, smaformance. The drama and style of those two are unbeatable!
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Post# 6559-10/6/2001-00:38 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westy washes again!
MESSAGE: No I disagre Louis, only because the Bendix and Philco machines tumble only one way, and they have never tangled a thing. It really does have to do with the slant of the tub.
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Post# 6560-10/6/2001-00:43 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westy washes again! (The Tangle Dome)
MESSAGE: The way to solve the tangling problem in a machine like the Laundromat is not to wash a load made up entirely of long-sleeve shirts. If you mix in some pants and some short-sleeve shirts, the tangling then is much less, if any at all.
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Post# 6561-10/6/2001-00:45 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (Dryer lint)
MESSAGE: That's what I love about my Westinghouse Slant Front Dryer as well as my little Bendix Gas Dryer, neither one has a lint filter to clean!
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Post# 6562-10/6/2001-01:01 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Speaking of Vintage Detergents...
MESSAGE: Wow, great finds Greg, save me a wiff of that Lemon Fresh Fab. When I was a kid, our neighbor, Mrs. Polan used to use that in her early 70's GE, I used to go over to help her do their laundry after her twins were born. I just love finding vintage detergent.
Here's a picture of a box of water softener that I found today, at the estate sales, that I had never heard of before. Check this out, you've got to love it's name, right Louis?...
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/unimatic1140/vwp?.dir=/Detergents&.dnm=PhosPhoTex.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 6563-10/6/2001-01:04 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: (sigh!)
MESSAGE: I'm doing the exact same thing Steve. Except I was just thinking how nice it is not to have a life and not to be out Downtown drinking, dancing and god only knows what else right now. YAY for getting older! I love this!
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Post# 6564-10/6/2001-01:11 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
A Beautiful New Addition to the Museum
MESSAGE: A big thanks to Brooklyn Robert for entering his 1961 and 1983 Whirlpool washers into the Whirlpool wing of the museum. Robert that '61 machine of your's is just BEAUTIFUL! I just love it!
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Post# 6565-10/6/2001-01:56 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Beautiful New Addition to the Museum
MESSAGE: The advertisement for the Mark II shows it to have timed bleach and softener dispensers, but the interior and "action" pictures show only a bleach dispenser, and there is a centrifugal softener dispenser visible on the right in the "action" pic.
??
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Post# 6566-10/7/2001-08:46 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Speaking of Vintage Detergents...
MESSAGE: Quite some detergents you found there. I'm still waiting for a new internet connection that makes it possible to smell things that you see. Sorry to hear that the Speed Queen wringer washer was already sold.
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Post# 6567-10/7/2001-09:29 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Speaking of Vintage Detergents...
MESSAGE: It's more what's in it than the name Robert, but I'm not against phosphates, I just have been discussing adding extra phosphates to what is already in detergent on the Garden web. Rich (Spam) can tell you more about this. I'd rather not start that kind of discussion here LOL.
BTW, in the past you have been spoiling us with estate sale pictures. I enjoyed them very much. Is there a dry spell or did you just stop taking your camera with you.
Louis
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Post# 6568-10/7/2001-09:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Speaking of Vintage Detergents...
MESSAGE: Hi Louis, no I was just being silly anyway. Phosphates forever LOL!!!
Anyway, I've been still going to the sales, and I do have my camera, I've just been concentrating my web-efforts in other areas. I did take some nice pictures yesterday and I will post them for you guys later on in the day.
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Post# 6569-10/7/2001-09:52 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT:
Scott & Robert (Uni) set the record straight on Gardenweb THS
MESSAGE: Guys, your comments regarding the vintage products and service techs reluctance to embrace them were on target. Frigidaire GM especially; was most unpopular with uninitiated techs, mainly because of their complexity and woeful lack of training....unless you were an "Frigidairian"...a Frigidaire factory trained tech. GM did have a tendency to overdesign and engineer.....but the styling, quality and performance was exceptional. Once you got the hang of working on the brand it was easy.....in fact most techs will tell you, if you can master Frigidaire you can service just about anything! This issue unfortunately is even more pronounced today with the lack of technically oriented young people in the service business and the associated costs of running service calls.....it's easier to "condemn" something (and collect a trip charge) you don't understand than to try & service it. Just my editorial for the day!
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Post# 6570-10/7/2001-10:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Beautiful New Addition to the Museum (Close but no cigar)
MESSAGE: Glenn, if you compare the model # between Robert's 1983 Whirlpool and that page of sales literature, the model #'s are slightly different. That sales lit page was very close (but not exact) so I decided it still should be included with its listing in the museum.
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Post# 6571-10/7/2001-10:04 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Scott & Robert (Uni) set the record straight on Gardenweb THS
MESSAGE: You are absolutely right Leslie, you should post that same message over on THS too!
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Post# 6572-10/7/2001-10:43 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Speaking of Vintage Detergents...
MESSAGE: How fun! Is there any left in the box for a "special occaision" washing? That should kick up some great suds with a phosphated detergent too. We always used Dash and later Sears detergents in our BOL GE washer, I don't have a lot of fond memories of detergent brands, except Cheer, I loved Cheer - now we can live out our dreams! I was so thrilled to find all the vintage detergents and soaps yesterday - it's been a while since I've seen any. Most sale companies around here think that nobody would want that stuff and toss it before the sale opens.
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Post# 6573-10/7/2001-10:45 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Beautiful New Addition to the Museum
MESSAGE: Thanks for the new additions Robert S - this museum is so fun to look at every now and then to enjoy other's appliances.
B. Robert - I love that '61 control panel, what style! I remember the first time I saw one of the electronic control WP/KM sets, takes your breath away. I saw a set of these at a sale about a year ago for a pretty good price, but there isn't enough room for everything, beautiful though!
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Post# 6574-10/7/2001-10:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Speaking of Vintage Detergents...
MESSAGE: Yes, cause its a full box, its never been opened.
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Post# 6575-10/7/2001-10:52 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Scott & Robert (Uni) set the record straight on Gardenweb THS
MESSAGE: Did anyone see the recent "repair or replace" article in Consumer Reports this month? Their cutoff for "serious consideration" to replacement rather than repair for washers and most other appliances is a scant eight years.
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Post# 6576-10/7/2001-11:04 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT:
RE: Speaking of Vintage Detergents... (Great News)
MESSAGE: Hi Robert, So glad to hear that you will be posting some pictures of the Estate Sales. I have sure missed them!!Thanks i
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Post# 6577-10/7/2001-11:08 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT:
RE: (sigh!) ((sigh! sigh!))
MESSAGE: I can sure relate to it!! I know just how you feel!!
Terry
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Post# 6578-10/7/2001-11:20 ||| mrb627 (Atlanta GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Beautiful New Addition to the Museum (( Capacity ? ))
MESSAGE: There also seems to be a discrepancy of the machines capacity, but still a great addition to the museum.
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Post# 6579-10/7/2001-11:24 ||| mrb627 (Atlanta GA)
SUBJECT:
Maytag Atlantis Pictures and stuff
MESSAGE: Wasn't someone going to post pictures and maybe a movie of an Atlantis in action? I am still eagerly waiting their publication...
mrb
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Post# 6580-10/7/2001-11:36 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Beautiful New Addition to the Museum (No Timed Dispensers?)
MESSAGE: Ahh, the sales lit machine is slightly older. ARGGGHH! I hadn't realized Whirlpool had dropped timed dispensers when the electronic machines were still being produced. That must mean the bleach dispenser on BrooklynRobert's Mark II isn't timed, either?
Magic Clean, do you have any info on why timed dispensers were dropped?
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Post# 6581-10/7/2001-11:39 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Beautiful New Addition to the Museum (( Capacity ? ))
MESSAGE: The copy on the ad says "large capacity inner basket," but the text on the left of the console says "Super Capacity." I think the "Double-Duty Super Surgilator" was only used on 18-pound machines.
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Post# 6582-10/7/2001-11:41 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Beautiful New Addition to the Museum
MESSAGE: Yes! The 1961 Whirlpool is very cool. Can you post the model number?
Does anybody have a pic of the control panel from the first electronic Whirlpool, the LFA9800? It was arranged differently.
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Post# 6583-10/7/2001-12:08 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Scott & Robert (Uni) set the record straight on Gardenweb THS
MESSAGE: I saw that CR article - amazing!! Eight years - but I guess that is the planned obsolescence - nothing is really built to last anymore. That's why we are all aficionados of the vintage washers - - they were built like tanks. I guess I will take that late 60's/early 70's GE after all................
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Post# 6584-10/7/2001-12:09 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: (sigh!) ((sigh! sigh!))
MESSAGE: It is actually very nice not to feel like you must go out just because it's Saturday night..... freedom!
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Post# 6585-10/7/2001-12:23 ||| mrb627 (Atlanta GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Beautiful New Addition to the Museum (Agitator)
MESSAGE: I agree. I don't think they ever put the winged double duty in anything less than an 18lb unit.
mrb
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Post# 6586-10/7/2001-12:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: (sigh!) (Hey! Where 'da party at?)
MESSAGE: I love being at home with my boys, enjoying our comforts and ammenities (two laundry rooms) as much as anyone, but I also love getting out now and then to kick it with my peeps! I need that balance of home and "out", and besides, I'm not in a relationship and won't ever be if I don't leave the house.
Last night was "fetish" night at our local club, what a hoot! Another occasion I should have worn my agitator hat!
With more seeds to sow, Greg
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Post# 6587-10/7/2001-13:02 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Speaking of Vintage Detergents...
MESSAGE: Uni,
Love the "Phosphotex" additive. I imagine it's similar to White King laundry water softener.
Louis,
I will respect your wish not to discuss phosphates here, with you, if you like. I would only like to say that I don't generally advocate adding more phosphates to a proper detergent formulation that already contains them, providing it does the job of removing soil from the laundry when used as directed.
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Post# 6588-10/7/2001-15:00 ||| Whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Beautiful New Addition to the Museum
MESSAGE: First off I like to give a Big Thank You to Robert (Uni) for the time and effort it took to post these for me! To answer some questons my RCA Whirlpool doesn't have a model number, it belonged to my grandmother and she said the tag broke off when the installer bent it up to read the model number. It seems in those days they bent the bottom of the plate up so the model number could be seen without moving the machine from the wall. My Whirlpool MarkII doesn't have a timed bleach dispenser, it's a Super Cap., I purchased it new in May of 1983. It has all it original parts just the pump and basket were repalced. I'm glad you are all enjoying the pictures.
"Brooklyn Robert"
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Post# 6589-10/7/2001-17:48 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Beautiful New Addition to the Museum (new addition)
MESSAGE: I was fourtinate enough to see these beautiful washers. I am glad they are added to the museum.
Peter
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Post# 6590-10/7/2001-19:15 ||| nmaineman36 (Portland Maine)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (Death-Wish Ductwork)
MESSAGE: In my house in Omaha the builder had used the plastic tubing and since we had a finished basement I could not change it out to an aluminum one like I had wanted to. The hose sagged and collected lint at the bottom and I had to go in there and clean it out. What a pain!
I had the Amana dryer first and it did take longer and it also ran hotter. Then we had switched to the Frigidaire front loader and matching dryer. The dryer had the "reversing tumble "feature. 5 mins tumbling clockwise and 30 seconds tumbling counterclockwise to unball and untangle the load. It did work well but one minor thing ...when the dryer went to reverse it would pause for 5 seconds with the heat ON still and the reverse with the heat on, and man the top of the dryer would get really hot. Then when the dryer went back to its normal direction it would pull the superheated air thru the load like a blast furnace. If I dried blankets in the dryer i would babysit it and make sure that it didnt get too big for the drum. I almost had a dryer fire with comforter that I forgot to watch and it was too close of a call for me so I finished drying it over 2 chairs.
And yes the Frigidaire had the 4500 watt element and the 200 cfm airflow. My Amana had the 5000 watt element and 215 airflow.
I do notice that on my GE Profile dryer that more lint escapes past the filter whereas my Maytag Atlantis dryer captures most of the lint. My exhaust hose is short and straight about 5 feet at the most with 2 elbows.
The Maytag moves about 220 cfm and the GE moves about 180 cfm . Both have the same wattage but the Maytag excells at speed and overall performance in my opinion. But the GE has the edge in capacity over the Maytag and I love the cupped vanes in the drum...they remnind me of the Frigidaire GM sorting fingers and the hole pattern in the back of the drum is in a halo pattern. I love the way the Maytag takes no time at all to get the load dry and I do notice it in my electric bill too. Much less with the Maytag than the GE and both have electronic sensors. Go figure!
Mike
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Post# 6591-10/7/2001-19:25 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: (sigh!) (Hey! Where 'da party at?)
MESSAGE: No argument - just meant that I always hated the presssure of feeling like you had to be doing something on Sat. nite -just because it was Sat. nite. I love to go out occasionally as much as the next person, but not when I feel forced - kind of like New Years' Eve.
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Post# 6592-10/7/2001-19:37 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (Death-Wish Ductwork)
MESSAGE: Mike - how old was your Amana dryer? Mine is about 16 months and I do not notice that it runs unusually hot. In fact I noticed that even on the highest setting , it still was not as hot as my okd GE. It does take a bit longer than the GE ( 5-10 minutes depending on the load), but I thought the GE ran a bit warmer. Of course I could be industrious and try to find out the wattage of the Amana element...........
My contractor tried something really cute. He used rigid aluminum tubing up to where the vent pipe hit the ceiling . From the attic to the roof louver, he used plastic tubing - only a short distance, but he figured I would never go up there to look. Surprise!! He was incredibly unhappy about having to fix that mess - but as I pointed out to him, as my neighbor he would have been a lot less happy watching the fire dept. rip the roof off the house - probably a bit dramatic, but I think he got the message. See what happens when you trust your investigative gut.......
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Post# 6593-10/7/2001-19:40 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: (sigh!) (Hey! Where 'da party at?)
MESSAGE: I know exactly how the "pressure" can play into how I feel about going out. One friend of mine "lives" for the party and never misses a Saturday night at the bars. I enjoy that now and then, but detest the perception or self imposed rule that going to the club is the ONLY thing to do - all other suggestions are quickly scoffed at. I still like to enjoy a movie and dinner or just hanging with friends playing cards too. Balance and moderation - too much of one thing...
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Post# 6594-10/7/2001-19:56 ||| steved (Albany NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: (sigh!) (Hey! Where 'da party at?)
MESSAGE: Jeez, I hope nobody was offended by my half-asleep comment. Truthfully, we are homebodies and this is pretty much what we do all the time (and like it), but on Sat nights we have a family dinner (my sister & family, mom and who ever else is hungry). This weekend they are away, and my kids are in Long Island at a wedding - so I was feeling a little lonesome.... A big thank you for all your nice remarks and comments
SteveD
PS Angus, my partner is Italian and we enjoy lots of good cooking. But he dirties EVERY freakin dish, pot and pan when he cooks!! Thank God for a spare dishwasher...or two...
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Post# 6595-10/7/2001-21:15 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: (sigh!) (Hey! Where 'da party at?)
MESSAGE: Exactly my point!!!! The week is so hectic and pressured that a movie and dinner our on Saturday night with friends is something to look forward to. Don't mind the clubs occasionally but enough is enough already.............
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Post# 6596-10/7/2001-21:24 ||| Lenny (Northeastern Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT:
White-Westinghouse "Weigh-to-Save"
MESSAGE: Hi! Can anyone identify some information on the year my White-Westinghouse f/l 'Weigh-to-Save' machine was manufactured? (or other information)? The model number is: LT800JXDI Im GUESSING it is somewhere around 1980. It is almond colored with an oval glass window in a swing-down, top latched door. It has only two poly, cream colored, preferated 'fins' in the drum, set off center to eachother in the tub. It has an 'interior light' and references that fact on its console with a little lightbulb 'icon'. It has pushbutton water temp controls and all other controls are dials. Its and older, smaller capacity machine and was given to me several years ago, Was previously owned by an older couple who had a beautiful home with 'only the best'. I believe it was a TOL model in its day. Any info on it would be appreciated.
Lenny
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Post# 6597-10/7/2001-21:27 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: (sigh!) (Hey! Where 'da party at?)
MESSAGE: Offended?????????? Are you kidding?? Not in the least - I didn't think your comments negative at all. They actually sounded like the comments of a reasonably contented man..........
Your partner sounds like an accomplished cook. I, too do a fair amount of cooking and baking. I have to admit though, I am pretty neat and like to clean up as I go. Probably would drive most people nuts!!!! I could use an extra dishwasher, though.....................
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Post# 6598-10/7/2001-21:40 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: (sigh!) (Hey! Where 'da party at?)
MESSAGE: I like to cook and bake, but I don't often have time anymore. Anybody for a homemade cheesecake, LOL!
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Post# 6599-10/7/2001-21:44 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: (sigh!) (Hey! Where 'da party at?)
MESSAGE: Yeah - that's the tough part for me too - time. But I am always glad when I make time for it. For me it is very relaxing.....
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Post# 6600-10/7/2001-21:55 ||| Lenny (Northeastern Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT:
Chat Room
MESSAGE: Hi, I'll be in the chat room for awhile while I'm on-line,if anyone wants to chat live for awhile.
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Post# 6601-10/7/2001-23:35 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Chat Room
MESSAGE: Lenny, I went there and waited for a while, and you weren't there, nor did anyone else come in.
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Post# 6602-10/7/2001-23:39 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: White-Westinghouse "Weigh-to-Save"
MESSAGE: Hi Lenny.
I cant help you with any information but I would just love to see pictures of that machine!!
Its easy if you have a scanner or digital cameras and use Yahoo photos.
Maybe you could submit pictures of it too to the Museum.
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Post# 6603-10/7/2001-23:39 ||| miss jet cone (Hopkins ,MN)
SUBJECT:
karen& David best regards to all !!
MESSAGE:
HI all!
we just wanted to say hi and see if every one
doing well in these troubled times that we are in.
The kenmore HE3t are doing well. We have had a busy
and fast summer doing a lot of yard work projects
so most of it's done So I have not been on line
verry much lately.Does any one here in town that
would like to come over to party sometime soon?
let me know so we can plan some FUN ! karen
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Post# 6604-10/7/2001-23:41 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Beautiful New Addition to the Museum
MESSAGE: That 1961 Whirlpool is certainly a beautiful machine.
I knew an old couple who had a very similar machine. I just loved how all the knobs and buttons were all grouped up on one edu on a prominent part of the control panel.
Thanx!
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Post# 6605-10/8/2001-05:10 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
POD Water Conservation
MESSAGE: It is obvious our homemaker advisor doesn't come from rural australia. Or even Suburban Australia for that matter.
Still even water saving benefits are hard to convince a lot of people to bend over and get a front loader.
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Post# 6606-10/8/2001-07:21 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Water Conservation (my sentiments )
MESSAGE: Many people in the US are very spoiled with public water and sewer. My first experience with true conservation was living in St Thomas doing a load of laundry was time to celebrate if we had enough water in the cistern. Now living in the south I must be a good steward to nature and have as many water saving devices in place A Frigidaire front loader which I think threw a belt last night to a 1-18 Frigidaire which lives in the garage and performed outstanding. Even though a war broke out yesterday at the time we were bombing I was in total comfort watching my 1-18 just go to town.
Gods peace to you all
Wringing
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Post# 6607-10/8/2001-09:19 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Water Conservation (More water! We're MEN!!!)
MESSAGE: "A desire to save water seems to be typically feminine."
Damn! I'm glad to be a MAN!!!
BMC,
-ph
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Post# 6608-10/8/2001-09:21 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Speaking of Vintage Detergents...
MESSAGE: EEK! That orange ERA bottle!!! Run away, run away!!!
-ph
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Post# 6609-10/8/2001-11:37 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Speaking of Vintage Detergents...
MESSAGE: Send it over, send it over!!!
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Post# 6610-10/8/2001-12:51 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Water Conservation (Getting rid of the water ---)
MESSAGE: We know one of the "well known" agitator-type washer brands that was outstandingly good at extracting the water - would the other have still been GE? When was the mechanism changed from the 1140 spin on the GE?
I wonder if they had to untangle the blouses from the slips, handkerchiefs, nightgowns and curtains before they could be ironed....perhaps they loaded properly.
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Post# 6611-10/8/2001-13:00 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Water Conservation (Getting rid of the water ---)
MESSAGE: It was changed with the 1951 line. But since this article was in the January 1951 issue of Good Housekeeping, they obviously were referring to an AW6 GE.
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Post# 6612-10/8/2001-13:03 ||| Boomer (Montana USA)
SUBJECT:
Maytag "Dutch Oven" cooking Stove
MESSAGE: Hi Everyone!
Greatly appreciate ANY info offered on the Maytag gas cooking Stove "Dutch Oven". I have purchased one but can not use it, as it is missing the top grates - (metal rings or iron pieces which you set your pots on)-- I've looked every for these to no avail.
The pieces are about 10" across the diameter with an inside little step down. The measurement on the stove top where the rings/grates set are approx. 9" - which would be what I'm calling the step down.
Bless you for any help or possible links to check!
Boomer
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Post# 6613-10/8/2001-13:16 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Speaking of Vintage Detergents...
MESSAGE: And run we did. Couldn't abide the stuff - I believe that was one of the first detergents touting 1/4 cup usage for the entire load. But I guess it didn't matter whether you used 1/4 cup or 1 cup. The stuff didn't brighten worth a damn, and cleaned only the most mundane dirt - hardly a man's detergent!!!!
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Post# 6614-10/8/2001-13:34 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
Hanging in chat afternoon of 10/8
MESSAGE: Things are rather slow at work today, so I've got the chat room open. If I do get busy and can't respond right away, don't take it personally. 8-)
LINK: http://users.wcnet.net/dadoes/appchat.html
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Post# 6615-10/8/2001-13:56 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag "Dutch Oven" cooking Stove (Try This)
MESSAGE: Hi Boomer. Congrats on your Maytag Gas Range, I've seen a few of these at the estate sales, and they are just beautiful. I have two suggestions for you,
First contact Jack Santoro at the Old Appliance Club, he can be reached by emailing him at jes@west.net.
Next I would try to contact Lillian and Marty Patton in Aberdeen SD. Their phone number is 605-225-7204. They have a huge appliance graveyard. I know I've seen Maytag Ranges out there. Click the link below to see a picture of the south end of their farm, their entire collection covers about double of the space you see in this picture.
Good Luck, I know how difficult finding vintage appliance parts can be.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/unimatic1140/vwp?.dir=/Z_Sacred+Junkyard&.dnm=South+Dakota+Appl+Graveyard.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 6616-10/8/2001-14:47 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
Freight On The Move
MESSAGE: A Whirlpool freight truck just drove through town! Wonder what kinda goodies were on it?
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Post# 6617-10/8/2001-16:19 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Beautiful New Addition to the Museum (Uni... I cannot access the Whirlpool link. What do I do??)
MESSAGE: Uni:
Somehow, everytime I point my mouse to the "Whirlpool" link inside of the museum, my pointer does NOT turn into a hand, and hence, I cannot click onto it and go inside of the museum. The link is there, but it is not working with my computer. What's wrong??
--Charles--
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Post# 6618-10/8/2001-16:34 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Beautiful New Addition to the Museum (Uni... I cannot access the Whirlpool link. What do I do??)
MESSAGE: Hi Charles, that's strange. What Browser and version are you using, for example Netscape 4.7. I do need both the Browser Name and Version Number in order for me to test.
Does anyone else have this problem?
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Post# 6619-10/8/2001-16:52 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Beautiful New Addition to the Museum (Browsers........)
MESSAGE: Hello Uni:
How are you doing?? Right now, I am using a public computer at my place of work. All of the computers here use Netscape. Some of them use Netscape Version 4.0. Some of them use version 4.07, and the rest of them use version 4.74. My home computer (which is in the process of being upgraded.... Right now, I have a Gateway PII/G-233/266 Mhz machine..... And I am upgrading that to either a Dell Dimension XPS T700 (which is a PIII/700 Mhz./128 MB/20GB Machine) Machine or a Dell Dimension 4100 (which is also a PIII machine, but this one has a 933 Mhz. processor, 128 MB, and a 45 GB HD.... and both of them have DVD-ROM drives) also has the Netscape browser installed on it. And it is the 4.74 version I believe.
It isn't by any chance that my choice of a browser could be the problem, is there??
--Charles--
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Post# 6620-10/8/2001-18:30 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Beautiful New Addition to the Museum (Browsers........)
MESSAGE: Netscape only recognizes the underline beneath Whirlpool as being an active link. IE sees the entire word as clickable.
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Post# 6621-10/8/2001-20:32 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Beautiful New Addition to the Museum (Uni... I cannot access the Whirlpool link. What do I do??)
MESSAGE: I generally have noticed that IE works better than Netscape for Classic Appliance videos, etc...
I was however initially unable to download the Salvo and Oxydol commercials no matter what browser I tried. Today, however, presto! it worked.
Plus, I loved the Salvo commercial. I believe it's a mid-60's one, and I remember it... vaguely. I wonder what's in that Oxydol that makes it rinse so well... could it be.... phosphates???
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Post# 6622-10/8/2001-20:52 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Beautiful New Addition to the Museum (Uni... I cannot access the Whirlpool link. What do I do??)
MESSAGE: The Salvo and Oxydol commercial issue was not a browser problem, it was a Server problem. Everything seems to work fine for me in both Netscape and IE6.
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Post# 6623-10/8/2001-22:01 ||| Tampafur (Tampa Florida)
SUBJECT:
Washer/Dryer combos: Where the heck to find them
MESSAGE:
I am in the market for a W/D combo, I've looked at Equator and Spendide, not thrilled by small capacity and 110V drying, can you guys give me advice where to find a working model from the 60s or 70s. We had a GE model in the 70s , really cool when it worked
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Post# 6624-10/8/2001-23:30 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: (sigh!)
MESSAGE: Well Steve, sounds perfect to me--wish I had the same "problem", but I don't. Maybe someday. But, we've talked about this.
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Post# 6625-10/8/2001-23:32 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: (sigh!)
MESSAGE: In fact, I'd love to have that scenario. A quiet domestic life with someone.
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Post# 6626-10/8/2001-23:58 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
I am back, recovering
MESSAGE: I got sick at work on Friday just after noon, started bleeding. Lost lots of bood, intestinal related. Nice thing about working in a hospital, was rushed down to ER and immediately placed in exam room. Bleeding stopped early Sat. morning, had a proceedure done Sat. mid-day by one of the residents I work for, and finally got to come home tonight--worried about me being steady on my feet and being alone. That's why I haven't had any posts since Friday. Very scary.
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Post# 6627-10/8/2001-00:04 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: I am back, recovering (Get well soon)
MESSAGE: Wow, that would be very scary. I hope you have a full recovery, and it never happens again.
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Post# 6628-10/8/2001-00:40 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: I am back, recovering
MESSAGE: Take care of yourself and keep us posted, our thoughts are with you! Greg
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Post# 6629-10/8/2001-00:59 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Washer/Dryer combos: Where the heck to find them
MESSAGE: A test family for GE - how fun, did you test just major appliances or small appliances too?
As far as your combo, they are some of the rarest of vintage appliances, repair parts can be even tougher to find. Robert (Unimatic1140) posted some hunting tips in message #5694 that would be helpful for you. Are you able to work on and restore any machines you find? There is a wealth of knowlege here that can be of help to you, best of luck in your search!
Be sure to check out the Member Links section to see some of the vintage combos that some of the members have in their collections. Welcome and enjoy the club! Greg
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Post# 6630-10/8/2001-01:29 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: I am back, recovering
MESSAGE: Dear Appnut.
I hope you are alright and feel your normal self soon.
Hope this is nothing serious.
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Post# 6631-10/9/2001-02:09 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: I am back, recovering
MESSAGE: Hi Bob
Best wishes for a speedy recovery, hope all is well, we`ve missed you....
Mike
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Post# 6632-10/9/2001-06:03 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: (sigh!)
MESSAGE: It has its moments............... send me an email offline and I will give you my perspective.......
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Post# 6633-10/9/2001-06:04 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: I am back, recovering
MESSAGE: Welcome back - and I hope it was nothing serious. Way too much serious stuff going on these days. It must have been frightening for you, blood always is. Take care of yourself.........
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Post# 6634-10/9/2001-06:10 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture time
MESSAGE: Louis, what is the plant that is growing near the dryer? It looks so healthy. Do you have electrical connections for the dryer out there? Is the vented dryer faster than the condenser dryer? Congratulations. Tom
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Post# 6635-10/9/2001-06:13 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (softening)
MESSAGE: Or, you could let the cycle finish, remove what you do not want softened, like especially dish towels and set it for another rinse with softener. Tom
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Post# 6636-10/9/2001-06:17 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Great Pic. of Day! (Gladiron)
MESSAGE: Mike, it was Thor's name for their ironer (mangle). It was unique in that the roll was so small you could slip a shirt sleeve over it for ironing. The roller/motor part also folded down for storage in a narrow sapce, something other ironers did not do. Tom
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Post# 6637-10/9/2001-06:22 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture time
MESSAGE: Louis, a condenser dryer almost always makes softer clothes than a vented one. I guess the detergent fragrance dissipates more with all the air that blows through the AEG. Glad you like it. Tom
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Post# 6638-10/9/2001-06:33 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westy washes again!
MESSAGE: But the slant of the tub helps because it makes things fall to the rear and fall back on each other; the design caused less lifting and falling and more rolling over and over. My Bendix Duomatic and the straight tub WH washers do not tangle as badly while tumbling in one direction. Reverse tumbling definitely helps prevent tangling though. TT
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Post# 6639-10/9/2001-06:47 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE Americana 'Dispensall' (Dispensall Design?)
MESSAGE: The mineraling up of machines seemed to be worse in the early days of no phosphates detergents when people did not know that you had to use more of the no phos formula than the previous phosphated stuff. The detergents have also improved and I think the liquid detergent craze has helped eliminate some of the problem, although poor use and under-rinsing with liquids can leave awful slime deposits in a machine. Then there was all the mess caused by AMWAY detergent which cost a fortune, but customers were told you only had to use 1/4 cup, which might have worked for the phosphated version, but killed washers in the no phos formula. John has seen the holes in WP, Maytag & GE tubs almost completely closed with mineral buildup. The dispenser drawers do not mineral up as badly as the dispensomat parts because you do not have recirculated wash water with detergent and soil and glop going through them so you mainly get the white minerals from the water, not the awful gray-brown grunge we see in washers which is a mixture of minerals, detergent and dirt. It is amazing how many older Maytags have the turquoise lint filter either welded into the barrel of the agitator by minerals or completely clogged by same. TT
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Post# 6640-10/9/2001-06:55 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: I am back, recovering
MESSAGE: Glad to hear you're ok Bob. Welcome back.
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Post# 6641-10/9/2001-07:02 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (Death-Wish Ductwork)
MESSAGE: I hate roof vents for dryers. They seem to clog so quickly. With dryers having smaller blowers and poorer lint screens, those long vertical runs trap everything. And if the pipe is cool like during the winter, the moisture really condenses on the walls of the pipe trapping lint like crazy. Friends in Sarasota and Vero had roof vents and their dryers were very slow except just after cleaning. TT
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Post# 6642-10/9/2001-07:26 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Interesting Discussion
MESSAGE: Could this guy be any more wrong? Probably has never seen any of the machines he talks about. That would make him a government expert, also a good candidate for a corporate historian or CEO. SHEESH! TT
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Post# 6643-10/9/2001-07:32 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Scott & Robert (Uni) set the record straight on Gardenweb THS
MESSAGE: Boy is that the truth. It is very difficult to find anyone wanting to do the work. John's work-study student an excellent case study.
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Post# 6644-10/9/2001-07:43 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: (sigh!) (Hey! Where 'da party at?)
MESSAGE: I don't know of anyone who has enough time for everything anymore. Homemade Cheescake! Makes me think of Greg's delicious creation he brought to the convention. I'm still wearing it. TT
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Post# 6645-10/9/2001-08:31 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: I am back, recovering (Feel better)
MESSAGE: App - I hope you feel better and make a speedy recovery
Peter
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Post# 6646-10/9/2001-08:59 ||| tampafur (Tampa Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Washer/Dryer combos: Where the heck to find them
MESSAGE: thanks for the imput, guess I will have to start going to estate sales.
We were a GE major appliance test family a few items we had tested over the 60s and early 70s were
Wall Mounted Refrierator/Freezer side by side, Really cool but was of non standard size,
Range with both microwave and convential in main oven (
nightmare applicance you hade to use a special metal plate in the oven for microwave only)
Undercounter washer/dryer combo (took 3 hours to complete a load)
Condenser Dryer ( clothes came out damp, took forever to dry in Florida himidity)
First model of trash compactor( did not have auto disinfectent spray like current models, stinky!!)
Tested various diswashers with different tub materials and washarm systems,( one had a tiny washarm under the flatware basket to spray it)
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Post# 6647-10/9/2001-09:53 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Washer/Dryer combos: Where the heck to find them
MESSAGE: Hi Phil,
Unfortunately, its going to be quite difficult to find a vintage Combo, but if you really, really want one, after a lot of effort and a bit of luck, you'll find one!
Click on the blue link at the bottom of this post. It's a picture of our friend John's GE Combo that he restored, painted black and installed in his kitchen.
Wow were you a lucky kid. I would have just loved to have a mom who was a tester of appliances!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/tomturbomatic/vwp?.dir=/3+-+Collection+at+John%27s+Maryland+House&.dnm=GE+Combo+Built-In.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 6648-10/9/2001-10:25 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Vote For your Favorite Titan Tub Colour!!!!!! (Rich your out of your tree)
MESSAGE: Rich, I think you went a little bananas on this joke. But orange you glad you added to the banter. You added such zest. On that note, I'm gonna peel on outta here for now. I'm tired and need to go back to bed.
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Post# 6649-10/9/2001-11:08 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: I am back, recovering
MESSAGE: Hello Bob,
I hope it is nothing serious. Get well soon!!! Are you staying at home right now? Keep us informed.
Louis
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Post# 6650-10/9/2001-11:19 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture time
MESSAGE: Tom,
I'm not sure, I think somebody said sometime it could be some kind of prunus. Perhaps there is somebody else with more interest in gardening?
Behind the door is my Miele dryer. It needs an extension cord and I use that same cord to connect the AEG. If necessary I can put the cord through the cat flap in the door.
Louis
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Post# 6651-10/9/2001-11:39 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: I am back, recovering
MESSAGE: Yes Luigi, I'm home. My doctor won't let me go back to work until next Monday, at least, because I'm so weak. Bob
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Post# 6652-10/9/2001-13:05 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Grand Opening Today
MESSAGE: The brand new shiny Target store just opened today right in the center of Downtown Minneapolis. I'm coming down from the high of spending the last half of my lunch hour taking whiffs of Tide, Cheer, Gain powder and Downy. Maybe tomorrow I'll get really crazy and take a whiff of some of the liquid detergents that are banned from my basement! Watch out I'm outta control!
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Post# 6653-10/9/2001-15:19 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Grand Opening Today (Outta control)
MESSAGE: Robert, you need to go home and grab onto the WCI57 and get "control" again.
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Post# 6654-10/9/2001-16:09 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: I am back, recovering
MESSAGE: Take good care of yourself Bob, get plenty of rest and get behind the computer now and then. We hope you can still see the bright side of things and share your sense of humor with us. Luigi
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Post# 6655-10/9/2001-16:12 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Grand Opening Today (Outta control)
MESSAGE: and perhaps get white around the nose from smelling old fashioned detergent.
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Post# 6656-10/9/2001-19:13 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Member (softening)
MESSAGE: Hmm. That's a thought! On the NP7500, I'd probably select a rinse only cycle - although choosing just one rinse might be tricky. I *think* it's doable, but perhaps not in a favorites selection, at least not with my revision of the firmware...
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Post# 6657-10/9/2001-19:17 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (Death-Wish Ductwork)
MESSAGE: One way to help prevent condensation is to wrap the outside of the duct with insulation. I'm thinking of doing that with the 15' or so of ducting that runs from the laundry closet in the middle of the house through the crawlspace out to a vent under the house by the courtyard.
I vented the WCI dryer through an unsed old 2 story kitchen chimney for years with no problem. It was an eight inch duct, which probably helped. I probably moved out just in time :-0
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Post# 6658-10/9/2001-19:19 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Vote For your Favorite Titan Tub Colour!!!!!! (Rich your out of your tree)
MESSAGE: Good thing the conversation didn't end on a sour note.
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Post# 6659-10/9/2001-19:20 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture time
MESSAGE: Prunus could be any of a variety of things... cherries, plums, nectarines, peaches. Usually it's used to refer to the flowering kind. That is, the type that flower with little or no fruit afterwards.
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Post# 6660-10/9/2001-19:22 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Grand Opening Today
MESSAGE: Uni,
If you want to sample a really great scent, try Dove Unscented. Ok, it's a hand soap and not a laundry soap, but perhaps you could grate some and try it in a vintage machine ;-). It actually has small amounts of relatively rare essential oils like sandalwood in it, to mask the plain soap odor. It's pretty nice on people.
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Post# 6661-10/9/2001-19:30 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture time
MESSAGE: The plant looks like it might be some sort of sand cherry... prunus besseyi. Or maybe a dward floweing almond, prunus glandulosa. What are the flowers like? Any fruit? Do the birds like the fruit?
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Post# 6662-10/9/2001-20:44 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Vote For your Favorite Titan Tub Colour!!!!!! (Rich your out of your tree)
MESSAGE: That would have been the "pits" - but maybe I am being "thin-skinned".................
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Post# 6663-10/9/2001-20:46 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Grand Opening Today
MESSAGE: Funny you should mention that about Dove Unscented. I have always used it because I liked the scent.............
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Post# 6664-10/9/2001-21:01 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Vote For your Favorite Titan Tub Colour!!!!!! (Rich your out of your tree)
MESSAGE: Or a flat note. I better be careful, I may get in a lot of treble.
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Post# 6665-10/9/2001-21:36 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
guess who's online at home tonight
MESSAGE: I'm here at home, thanks to Jason. TT
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Post# 6666-10/9/2001-21:44 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: guess who's online at home tonight
MESSAGE: woohoo!! Congrats on the computer link to the world - you'll love it.
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Post# 6667-10/9/2001-21:46 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture time (the new dryer's plant)
MESSAGE: Louis, prunus, like in the Latin name for the genus containing cherry? Large group; entirely possible. Pretty leaves. I am happy for you with your extra laundry appliances. I can see that the appliance spell cast over you is working. TT
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Post# 6668-10/9/2001-21:48 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Grand Opening Today
MESSAGE: Robert, the Target we walked past on our walking tour of downtown? It is so great to know what you are talking about and where it is! Happy sniffing. TT
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Post# 6669-10/9/2001-21:48 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: guess who's online at home tonight
MESSAGE: Thanks, Greg.
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Post# 6670-10/9/2001-21:56 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: guess who's online at home tonight (Tonight!)
MESSAGE: Glad you can signon from home. I just got a new computer and I am trying to load down pics from when I came to see you guys in May. I am having some computer problems with it crashing when opening some pics and playing wav files. I hope to be able to resolve them.
Peter
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Post# 6671-10/9/2001-22:00 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: guess who's online at home tonight (Congratulations Tom!)
MESSAGE: Hi Tom, it's so wonderful to see you here in the evening. Congrats on your new computer at home. Glad Jason made it to MD safe and sound.
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Post# 6672-10/9/2001-22:00 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Grand Opening Today
MESSAGE: Yup, that's the one Tom.
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Post# 6673-10/9/2001-22:02 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dating the filter-flo (Death-Wish Ductwork)
MESSAGE: We have used the insulated dryer vent that comes with insulation, sort of like a smaller version of that flexible insulated furnace ductwork. John had a situation at a customer's where a long run was trapping lint because the old vent would get very wet from condensation. The insulated stuff worked great at preventing that, but was kinda expensive. Unfortunately, builders don't bother insulating dryer vents and new homeowners aren't aware of what's happening inside the run.
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Post# 6674-10/9/2001-22:11 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: guess who's online at home tonight
MESSAGE: Congrats Tom. Glenn & I were just chatting about your situation & PC at home this afternoon, a long chat to help me through my dull afternoon. Thanks again Glenn for the company it meant a lot.
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Post# 6675-10/9/2001-23:04 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
Welcome recent new members
MESSAGE: Was scrolling through profiles tonight and noticed some new names who have recently joined. Welcome to c4aboyd, drewz, tampafur, and washrfreak. And with washrfreak, the Texas contingency is growing. YAY!!!!!! Now 3 of us!!!
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Post# 6676-10/9/2001-00:50 ||| washrfreak (dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Welcome recent new members (Texas)
MESSAGE: 3's a good start!
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Post# 6677-10/9/2001-01:42 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
Stupid F&P Tricks
MESSAGE:
I bought a new camera several weeks ago, a Sony DSC-S85. One of the "step-up" features from my previous camera is that it can record continuous mpeg video to the capacity of the installed MemoryStick. I got a 128MB stick, which holds 23 minutes at the higher resolution (or 91 minutes at the lower resolution).
So, I've been recording some more cycles on the F&P. Lighting above the washer isn't quite sufficient for good detail in the basket, so I bought one of those undercounter fluorescent fixtures.
The fluorescent fixture fit just about perfectly along-side the left of the basket opening, with the lid removed. Monday night I was recording a cycle of jeans. The fill, 9-minute wash, and first spin took almost exactly 23 minutes. Paused the machine, downloaded the file, continued on with recording the rinse . . .
rinse fill
agitation
drain
spin starts
spin ramps up to 300 RPM
spin accelerates to 1000 RPM
Uhhhhh . . . it's not a pretty picture when a GE 18" undercounter fluorescent light fixture falls into a Fisher & Paykel SmartDrive spinning at 1000 RPM at 2:00 a.m.
Not to mention that I was standing right there, hand-holding the camera.
I'm fine, other than being rather shaken up by the experience.
The camera is fine.
The F&P has some minor scars on the basket's balance ring, and a small piece of trim on the lower left of the console got chipped out (I can glue it back).
The light fixture is destroyed.
The basket, and the jeans, were full of glass. Part of the bulb (including one electrode) ended up BEHIND the washer. The light's electric plug got caught between the top of the basket and the tub ring, but it came out easily enough. I was concerned about glass getting into the pump, but I vacuumed it all out, ran it through a couple rinses and it was OK. I shook the jeans over the trash and most all the glass came loose, then I ran them through a couple rinses
No, I am not a stupid person, but, yes, this was a stupid thing to do without securing the light fixture in place.
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Post# 6678-10/10/2001-02:38 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Stupid F&P Tricks (O My Gawwwd!!!!!)
MESSAGE: Glen hope you`re okay
and the F&P & things, not a pretty site.
If this next question is tooooo painful,I`ll understand...
Did you catch it all on video??? are you gonna let us see it???
Mike
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Post# 6679-10/10/2001-03:10 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Stupid F&P Tricks
MESSAGE: Why let a good video go to waste? We MUST see that!
How much mess is there behind the machine? Hopefully not much beacuse you only have that small hatch at the bottom right front to access inside the machine.
Ouch!
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Post# 6680-10/10/2001-06:02 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Stupid F&P Tricks
MESSAGE: Yikes!!!! Glad you're OK and there was no damage to speak of. By any chance would you have some protective goggles?????????? Hugs..........
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Post# 6681-10/10/2001-06:03 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
P.O.D.
MESSAGE: Love today's picture - and what a great outfit and chapeau on the model. I think that is how everyone should look while doing their household chores...........
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Post# 6682-10/10/2001-06:56 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Stupid F&P Tricks
MESSAGE: We'll most importantly Glenn is that you didn't get hurt, YAY for that.
Secondly, did you get the tragity on motion film? That would be quite the show. I'm really looking forward to seeing some of your new movies. I didn't know Sony has a 128mb stick now, I'll have to run out and get one.
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Post# 6683-10/10/2001-07:09 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: P.O.D.
MESSAGE: We do.....don't you??
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Post# 6684-10/10/2001-07:22 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Stupid F&P Tricks
MESSAGE: You could win the prize on those home video shows! Very glad you are OK, but be careful with the neon tubes - the gas inside them is toxic, probably should run those jeans through a full wash again.
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Post# 6685-10/10/2001-08:33 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Welcome recent new members (Texas-washrfreak)
MESSAGE: Washrfreak, it would be great to meet you. Temple isn't that far from big D. Unfortunately, I'm unable to drive out of town, so it would be difficult for me to get to Dallas to meet you. I had to wait until the Convention in Minnieapolis before I met DADoES.
Hopefully we can chat on the Classic Appliances Chat Room and get to know each other and our fascination about appliances. Bob
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Post# 6686-10/10/2001-08:35 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
American Beauties Have Arrived....YayYayYay!!!!
MESSAGE: Morning All
Just got back from Manchester and a parcel was awaiting next door.... Finally arrived.... not at the bottom of the ocean after all.....
All I need now is a power converter.....
Cheers, Mike
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/chestermikeuk/lst?.dir=/Mikes+Vacs&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/chestermikeuk/lst%3f.dir=/Mikes%2bVacs%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 6687-10/10/2001-08:35 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: P.O.D.
MESSAGE: Looks just like my "grandparent's" sink & dishwassher arrangement--but their's had red coated racks. A pitiful dishwasher, but so fun to watch. Always loved going to their house--that dishwasher & matching Bendix washer & gas dryer. I was in appliance hog heaven.
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Post# 6688-10/10/2001-08:48 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: American Beauties Have Arrived....YayYayYay!!!!
MESSAGE: Mike, I'm sure you'll "power" your way through all shops that could potentially have that converter for you, at the fastest baud rate speed your feet can get you there simply to find that converter. Happy vaccuuming!!!! Yes I know, my puns suck just as well as the machines LOL. But you know, that's a part of "me". Bob
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Post# 6689-10/10/2001-08:52 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: American Beauties Have Arrived....YayYayYay!!!! (FINALLY - YAY-YAY-YAY)
MESSAGE: FINALLY! I really thought they went to the bottom of the Atlantic ocean. I mailed those on August 20th. They told me it should take a maximum of 2 weeks. HA, 2 Weeks, by butt! But at least they arrived safe and sound. Now I know its safe to mail vacuums. Mike, shall we try and send a Unimatic next?
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Post# 6690-10/10/2001-09:43 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Stupid F&P Tricks
MESSAGE: Glen, I'm glad you didn't get hurt. I can't imagine florescent tube flying at 1000 rpm! OUCH!
-ph
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Post# 6691-10/10/2001-09:44 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: American Beauties Have Arrived....YayYayYay!!!!
MESSAGE: But it was worth the wait, right Mike? Congrats!
-ph
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Post# 6692-10/10/2001-09:46 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
GE filters -- Part 2
MESSAGE: A question came up in a conversation with SQ Eddy: did GE every have the filter ring around the wash basket? I thought it was just a Hotpoint thing, but his GE has the ring. Any GE historians, please set the record straight.
-ph
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Post# 6693-10/10/2001-09:48 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Stupid F&P Tricks
MESSAGE: Yikes! Sorry to hear about the "collateral damage". Glad to hear you didn't injure yourself!
FWIW, this property used to be owned by a mechanical genius. He died in 1980 and his widow lived on here for another 16 years, not changing much of anything. Anyway, he had collected a huge amount of 8 foot flourescent light tubes. He then welded up trellises and pergolas all over the inner yard area, and used the light tubes to shade one of the walkways. He had constructed c-beams that fit the ends of the light tubes just so. They gave a nice diffuse light when the sun shined through them, but I thought they were dangerous. So I wound up removing and disposing 400 eight foot flouresent light tubes just from this covered walkway. To make a long story not so long, I only dropped one. But it literally exploded and I'm still finding bits of glass in the area four years later!
One of the reasons why i bought the old pickup truck was so I could haul another 100 used tubes, in boxes marked "tested - good" to the local hazardous waste depot. Don't worry, I still have about another 100 brand new but vintage tubes in unopened boxes... what a place...
Whatever can happen, will happen...
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Post# 6694-10/10/2001-09:50 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Stupid F&P Tricks
MESSAGE: The toxicity would be from the small amount of mercury in a flourscent tube. It's actually elemental mercury, so it's not as dangerous as the stuff that gets into fish in the wild (organic mercury). Hopefully most of it is flushed down the drain by now.
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Post# 6695-10/10/2001-09:52 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: guess who's online at home tonight
MESSAGE: YAY! Now we get to ask Tom questions 24 hours a day!
-ph
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Post# 6696-10/10/2001-10:16 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE filters -- Part 2
MESSAGE: I bet it's a Canadian GE feature, not a US GE Feature. Eddy, did the Viking brand have the filter ring in the 1980's? I know in the 70's Viking had a fliter-flo pan, as they were built by GE-Canada.
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Post# 6697-10/10/2001-10:18 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE filters -- Part 2
MESSAGE: Peter, I vaguely remember seeing a "GE" branded washer in a retail environment that was essentially a Hotpoint. Didn't have the toggle switches on the control panel, but the knobs like that found on Hotpoints. It may have been years ago at Kmart or even more recent as at Monkey Wards. But I DO remember encountering such a beast. It could have even been in Houston at one of the local M&P appliance stores or a chain called Conns that always carried low-end , price-leader products. But that would have made it prior to 01/86 when I moved to Temple from Houston. Bob
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Post# 6698-10/10/2001-11:22 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: American Beauties Have Arrived....YayYayYay!!!!
MESSAGE: WhoooHOOOO!!!!!!
Which one got the job of vacuuming up all those packing peanuts?
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Post# 6699-10/10/2001-11:36 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture time
MESSAGE: Perhaps my english is not sufficient here. I looked the dutch word "prunus" up in the dictionary and it said "id" which means in english you use the same word. In dutch it is a species that has nothing to do with fruits (no harm intended with that last word).
Louis
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Post# 6700-10/10/2001-11:39 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture time
MESSAGE: No fruits, no birds (this is getting weird), flowers are white/beige plumes.
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Post# 6701-10/10/2001-11:41 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: guess who's online at home tonight
MESSAGE: Welcome Tom, wonderful that you have a connection at home now. Hope that it will bring you lots of appliance joy. Louis
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Post# 6702-10/10/2001-11:42 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture time (the new dryer's plant)
MESSAGE: Thank you Tom, I hope to find an old toploading Miele or Philips soon.
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Post# 6703-10/10/2001-11:48 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Grand Opening Today
MESSAGE: Steve took a picture.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/svb14_30813/vwp?.dir=/Minneapolis+Tour&.dnm=09+Downtown+Target.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 6704-10/10/2001-11:53 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Stupid F&P Tricks
MESSAGE: Glad you are OK. Be more careful next time, we'd like you undamaged at the next convention.
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Post# 6705-10/10/2001-12:01 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: American Beauties Have Arrived....YayYayYay!!!!
MESSAGE: Hello Mike,
Nice to see that the parcel cam home in the number of pieces that it should. Look likes it was wrapped up very good. BTW, your interior looks very stylish. Do you know more about the lamp?
Louis
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Post# 6706-10/10/2001-12:06 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE filters -- Part 2 (GE in Europe)
MESSAGE: I forgot to tell you (and kept forgetting that) that we had neighbours that probably had a GE washer that matched your GE dryer. When I had a browse through your appliances with Steve I thought it looked familiar and later I remembered that it must have been the same design as those neighbours washer. So probably GE has sold American washers in Europe too in the past. What year is your dryer?
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Post# 6707-10/10/2001-12:50 ||| Lenny (Northeastern Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Stupid F&P Tricks (WoW...Frightening!)
MESSAGE: WOW...What a scarry thing DADeOS!
That experience really, really could have been disasterous for you physically! Thank goodness you're alright and didnt get severly wounded. That torque speed easily could have made for a lethal flying object. You're really fortunate! I'm so glad your OK and also that your F&P sustained minimal damage. The light is just a cheap, easily replaced item! Wow, that is frightening!
Lenny
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Post# 6708-10/10/2001-12:53 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Grand Opening Today (The Coolest Escalators)
MESSAGE: Yup, that's it, except all the construction stuff is gone finally. I went back just a few minutes ago to get some toothpaste and I didn't see these yesterday but they have the COOLEST escalators. They have a seperate ramp that you put your shopping cart on and it raises or lowers your cart up or down to the next floor as you ride the escalator!
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Post# 6709-10/10/2001-12:59 ||| Lenny (Northeastern Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT:
Danby Infatuation
MESSAGE: Hi all;
I still can't get over that little apartment sized 'Danby' that I saw in Home Depot the other week. Iv'e been thinking about it to the point that I probably buy it and add it to my already overcrowded laundry room. I realize the quality might not be good on the unit but it looks like so much fun. The 'toy' sized stainless tub has a cute little agitator and everything is so compact. It even has a little bleach and fabric softener dispenser built in. It might be a really fun addition to my laundry for doing just very small loads of an item or two. Any thoughts on if this is worth the $279.99? I really don't mind spending the money unless the thing is just a total piece of junk!
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Post# 6710-10/10/2001-13:02 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture time
MESSAGE: Well I was on board until you said "beige flowers". I'm stumped.
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Post# 6711-10/10/2001-13:10 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture time
MESSAGE: Louis,
Wait, you said white/beige "plumes", right? So from scanning my Western Garden Book (the koran of gardening in California) I see that what you describe might be a variety of english laurel, a prunus species. A possible varietal match is Prunus laurocerasus 'Zabeliana'. English laurel, paradoxically, is native to S.E. Europe to Iran.
The Dutch use of "prunus" pretty much corresponds to our usage - to refer to members of the prunus genus, species and varieties that have little or no fruit, and are cultivated primarily for their flowers or foliage. However they are all in the same genus as the species we grow for fruit.
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Post# 6712-10/10/2001-13:12 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Danby Infatuation (It's about having fun)
MESSAGE: Hi Lenny, now you just go for it Mister! First of all, it's not about the performance, it's about having fun. Who cares if it doesn't do a grand job of the washing, you have other machines for your really dirty stuff. Its about having fun anyway, if golf was your hobby you could just think of it as spending $279.99 for a new set of golf clubs. Most golfers wouldn't think twice about getting a new set of golf clubs if it was their passion (and clubs are a lot more than $279)!
If you can afford it, go out and buy the thing, you have absoultey nothing to loose and have some fun. Of course I'm probably going to go out and get that play Danby Dishwasher anyway, so I can't talk.
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Post# 6713-10/10/2001-13:21 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture time
MESSAGE: I think you could be right.
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Post# 6714-10/10/2001-13:28 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Stay Flo Dryer?
MESSAGE: Hi all, someone on THS has asked the following question:
my mom had a dryer in the late 60's and I can't remember the name of it and is bothering me, the words "stay" and "flo" comes to mind, am I imaging this or could it have been a secondary name as Hotpoint stay flo, and help would be appreciated.
I'm stumped does anyone else know?
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Post# 6715-10/10/2001-13:38 ||| appliguy (Vienna Va.)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE filters -- Part 2 (could have been a JC Penney washer and dryer)
MESSAGE: From 1963 until sometime in the late 70's or early 80's Hotpoint made laundry appliances for JcPenneys. Maybe this is the washer and dryer that you saw
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Post# 6716-10/10/2001-13:41 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Danby Infatuation
MESSAGE: I think the Danby looks cute also. It would look even cuter if installed next to a pair of HE3's.
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Post# 6717-10/10/2001-13:41 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE filters -- Part 2 (could have been a JC Penney washer and dryer)
MESSAGE: That's true Pat, JcPenny washers were made by GE in the 70's and did have the Hotpoint style filter ring.
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Post# 6718-10/10/2001-14:40 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE filters -- Part 2 (back to dating the GE)
MESSAGE: Louis,
I don't know the model year, but I'm guessing early 70's. It's due to get a bearing job here as soon as I find the time, then I'll sell it to someone at the 'mat...
GE experts: do you have any guidelines from finding the manufactring date from the model/serial number?
-ph
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Post# 6719-10/10/2001-14:41 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE filters -- Part 2 (nope, it's a GE)
MESSAGE: Eddy has the washer, and it is a GE. I'll let him jump on here with more specs when he's online next...
-ph
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Post# 6720-10/10/2001-14:43 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Danby Infatuation
MESSAGE: It's the perfect size when you need to wash something and don't have a full 25 pounds to properly fill the HE3T, or you want to give something a little more than a dab...
-ph
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Post# 6721-10/10/2001-14:47 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Stay Flo Dryer?
MESSAGE: I've heard that Stayfree makes some women feel drier. Maybe mom was doing laundry when they had "the talk" and she got confused between the appliances, starch, fabric softener and the hygiene products...
-ph
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Post# 6722-10/10/2001-15:48 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Danby Infatuation
MESSAGE: Definitely get it! Think of it as a toy for the soul.
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Post# 6723-10/10/2001-15:53 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Stay Flo Dryer? (was it the starch?)
MESSAGE: I think her mom must have kept a can of Stay-Flo spray starch sitting on top of the dryer. :-)
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Post# 6724-10/10/2001-15:59 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE filters -- Part 2 (GE/RCA)
MESSAGE: It could have also been an RCA machine...GE made these for a few years as their low-end line (like Roper is for Whirlpool, and Galaxy for Kenmore). The RCA machines I've seen had a GE helical vane agitator in them with a filter ring at the top of the tub.
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Post# 6725-10/10/2001-16:03 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE filters -- Part 2 (GE/RCA)
MESSAGE: ...and then again, I think that GE nay have dropped the filter-flo the last year or so before they redigned their washers. The filter ring was touted as a self cleaning filter as the spin and spray rinse flushed the lint off the ring and down the drain. I think...
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Post# 6726-10/10/2001-16:03 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Stupid F&P Tricks
MESSAGE: The video clip in question is still in the camera. I did view it, reluctantly and nervously, ONCE thus far. There is a crash at the end, but not much of the incident actually got recorded. I must have hit the shutter button to stop recording just as I saw the situation developing. Still gives me chills to think about it.
The extended-length video clips are on the order of 125 MB, too big to post for downloading or on-line viewing.
Perhaps when I get a bit more settled, I can burn a library of clips on CD-R for distribution to those who are interested.
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Post# 6727-10/10/2001-16:09 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Stay Flo Dryer?
MESSAGE: You're terrible Meriel.
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Post# 6728-10/10/2001-17:53 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
GE DW manual
MESSAGE: Here is the GE DW manual I promised Greg a while back, with Great Thanks to JASON the Web Wizzard and with great appreciation to Steve D. for manuals shared earlier. Robert, this can be added to the manuals section of the club if you wish. Tom
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/tomturbomatic/lst?&.dir=/GE+Dishwasher+manual&.src=ph&.view=t&.last=1http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/tomturbomatic/lst?&.dir=/GE+Dishwasher+manual&.src=ph&.view=t&.last=1
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Post# 6729-10/10/2001-17:55 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Stay Flo Dryer? (was it the starch?)
MESSAGE: And now I'm getting a visual of someone confusing spray starch with one of those other products and it's almost more scary than DADoES's recent close encounter with a flourescent light tub spinning at 800 rpm...
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Post# 6730-10/10/2001-17:55 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE DW manual (Working Link)
MESSAGE: OOPS
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/tomturbomatic/lst?.dir=/GE+Dishwasher+manual&.view=t
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Post# 6731-10/10/2001-18:04 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE DW manual (Working Link)
MESSAGE: Wonderful! I love all the manuals.
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Post# 6732-10/10/2001-18:12 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE DW manual (Working Link)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the interesting manual - will go back and read more later. This model is older than my grand mothers, wish I had that manual for hers now. There were more tines in the lower rack, farther out from the center than these. The corners held four larger plates and the sides would have held dinner plates as well, but much more than about 10" or so, and there was more danger of them "rolling" out when the machine was running. The impeller on hers was metal and more of a longer blade shape than the black plastic/bakelite one shown in the manual. Her top rack was more of a "balcony" with no lift out needed. The silverware basket was larger and hung on two hooks on the front wall of the tub and two plastic hooks rested on the upper rack. I'll ask my mother if she remembers when they bought that machine - probably would have been early 60's or so.
Hope all is well - Hi to Jason and John L. Greg
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Post# 6733-10/10/2001-18:15 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE filters -- Part 2
MESSAGE: The very first GE automatic used a filter ring, kinda sorta.
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Post# 6734-10/10/2001-18:19 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: guess who's online at home tonight
MESSAGE: Thank you, Louis of the prunus. TT
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Post# 6735-10/10/2001-18:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE DW manual (Working Link)
MESSAGE: I was looking at the pictures that Robert took last year of your collection (before moving to the new warehouse) and found a very similar racking arrangement to provide visual aid for the lengthy description I posted earlier. The link is to a late 50's GE d/w.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/tomturbomatic/vwp?.dir=/The+Warehouse+Part+1&.src=ph&.dnm=Late+50%27s+GE+MobileMaid+DW-1.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/tomturbomatic/lst%3f%26.dir=/The%2bWarehouse%2bPart%2b1%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 6736-10/10/2001-18:28 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: American Beauties Have Arrived....YayYayYay!!!!
MESSAGE: How fun - a power converter shouldn't be too much trouble, you can always order one online if you run into trouble. Enjoy the new vacs!
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Post# 6737-10/10/2001-18:32 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE DW manual
MESSAGE: Thanks Tom, I just downloaded the entire 16 pages of the GE DW manual to my hard drive so I can place them into Adobe Acrobat's PDF Format. This format allows us to post them to the web site in a book style format.
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Post# 6738-10/10/2001-18:35 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE filters -- Part 2 (How Could I Forget)
MESSAGE: That's very True Tom, some of the earlier AW6 models did have the self-cleaning filter ring, here is a picture of John's AW6, showing the tub and filter ring...
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/tomturbomatic/vwp?.dir=/4-Collection+-John%27s+West+Virginia+House&.dnm=Inside+the+%2747+GE.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 6739-10/10/2001-18:39 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE DW manual (Working Link)
MESSAGE: Greg, that is the model like we had with the pink plastisol interior. It later became blue with white racks. Yes, plates were supposed to go in the corners of the more squared off rack design. I'll bet you even remember the silver basket hanging in the opening of the top rack. I do and have one of these in the collection, just waiting for you to open it up and stick you head in. BW, TT
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Post# 6740-10/10/2001-18:40 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE DW manual (Working Link)
MESSAGE: that's one of 'em, pumpkin.
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Post# 6741-10/10/2001-18:50 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: P.O.D.
MESSAGE: I need a better collection of hats - -but I do have some nice slingbacks....................
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Post# 6742-10/10/2001-19:08 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE filters -- Part 2
MESSAGE: I tried to reply and I think deleted my entire message - so if this is a duplicate ignore it. The last of the GE's manufactured before the great engineering and style change had the filter ring and removable agitator. That was probably 1993-1995. At that time we were replacing a 17 year old GE washer and had a hard time finding one with the filter flo (necessary because the washer emptied into a sink). The only model still available with the filter flo at the time was the alleged TOL Profile. I say alleged because that was the washer that never even lasted 3 years. Starting with the "early transmission failure" (after only 6 months of use) - which GE neglected to publicize, and ending with the rusting inner wash basket, that thing was a nightmare. FInally got GE to replace it with one of the new plastic models, which lasted two years, flooded my basement and fried my alarm system.
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Post# 6743-10/10/2001-19:12 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Grand Opening Today
MESSAGE: THAT is a Target?????????? Wow!!!!!!
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Post# 6744-10/10/2001-21:59 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Danby Infatuation (Oh....I saw the WP Duet the other day)
MESSAGE: At least the new washer toy you want is only $279! I was at the Mega Mart the other day and got up close and personal with a new Duet. The blue was very exciting. The $969 price for the Duet was a lot better than $1500 for the KM - are there differences in the WP and KM models? As much as I wanted to bring one home to play with, I wrenched myself away and bought nothing.
Get the washer you want - you can always run an ad and sell it when you are done playing and find something new to fill it's spot.
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Post# 6745-10/10/2001-22:30 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Danby Infatuation (Pricing)
MESSAGE: Both the KM and WP versions of the HE3/Duet come in high end and low end models. The high end models are the HE3t and the Duet HT. They have the internal water heater, faster spin speed, more cycles, etc, that the lower end HE3 and Duet models lack. The pricing seems comparable - $969 for the Duet, $999 for the HE3.
Pricing may vary.
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Post# 6746-10/10/2001-23:01 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Danby Infatuation (Pricing)
MESSAGE: $969 was for the heater-faster spin HT model, the next model down was $899 or 879. They could be had for a bit less than the sticker price, there's always room to come down at Mega Mart. I'll bide my time, my Asko 1585 dishwasher was a floor model I bought for $425 when sticker price was $999. Everything comes down...
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Post# 6747-10/10/2001-23:31 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE DW manual (Greg's Grandmother's dishwasher)
MESSAGE: Greg, the earliest recollection I have of this arrangement was a 1958 model, my aunt had in her new house. No later than 1959. This arrangement lasted through the end of the impeller-based GEs. Very familiar with this machine too.
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Post# 6748-10/10/2001-23:34 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE DW manual (Working Link)
MESSAGE: Me too!!! someday!!!!! Our neighbor down the street had the 1960 model that had the changed interior color racks & liner.
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Post# 6749-10/10/2001-23:53 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
I'm having a recurring episode
MESSAGE: Just discovered I'm bleeding again. I may have to go to the hospital tonight if it doens't stop. If I do, my Dr. has already told me it will most likely mean surgery to remove the pocketed portion of my colon. I'm not sure when I'll see y'all again. Bob
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Post# 6750-10/10/2001-00:16 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm having a recurring episode
MESSAGE: Bob, check your mail, if you can before you have to go.
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Post# 6751-10/10/2001-00:38 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Danby Infatuation (Pricing)
MESSAGE: $969 for the Duet HT is a great deal, IMHO. It's only 100 rpm slower than the HE3t. Also I think an internal water heater is important for best results.
Hmm. Maybe I could convert my enclosed patio to a laundry center....
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Post# 6752-10/10/2001-00:43 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm having a recurring episode
MESSAGE: Best wishes for a full recovery, Bob.
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Post# 6753-10/11/2001-07:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm having a recurring episode
MESSAGE: Our thoughts and prayers are with you - talk to you soon. Greg
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Post# 6754-10/11/2001-07:42 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm having a recurring episode
MESSAGE: Hope everything is OK Bob, keep us posted.
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Post# 6755-10/11/2001-07:46 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Picture of the Day Problems
MESSAGE: Since I've upgraded to Internet Explorer 6, it seems that sometimes the P.O.D. doesn't download the new picture of the day in the morning and I get yesterday's Picture of the Day. When I get to work and use IE5, the correct new picture of the day is properly downloaded. Does anyone else have this issue? What picture are you guys seeing now? I'm still seeing the Youngstown Dishwasher at home here, but when I look directly at the server I see the POD is set to the 1957 Hotpoint Mircowave oven today.
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Post# 6756-10/11/2001-07:48 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture of the Day Problems (Hotpoint Micro on 6.0)
MESSAGE: I have the correct picture with 6.0.
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Post# 6757-10/11/2001-11:25 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE filters -- Part 2 (back to dating the GE)
MESSAGE: Peter, are you sure? The washer I am talking about was more like an early sixties, but then again I wasn't sure about the match. If I only could have one peek at that washer again. Louis
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Post# 6758-10/11/2001-11:49 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture of the Day Problems (Browser Issues?)
MESSAGE: I read on a tech mailing list the other day, that IE6 (and Netscape 6) no longer support Java. If either one is installed as an upgrade to a previous version that does have Java, then the Java carries over. But a clean install of IE6 or Netscape 6 won't have it. I can't confirm that, as I am not running Version 6 of either one, and if I was, it would be an upgrade install.
A Java engine can be downloaded separately from Sun Microsystems, but I don't recall the URL to get it.
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Post# 6759-10/11/2001-12:04 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm having a recurring episode
MESSAGE: Get well soon!
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Post# 6760-10/11/2001-13:28 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
THS post and More Pictures
MESSAGE: Uni, I saw your latest post in the Nostalgia thread at THS, with the link to John's 1964 LK. Either I missed seeing those albums before, or I don't remember them. WOW, so many fabulous things! The 1962 Custom Imperial pair, the 1960 Duomatic, the 1965 LK Combo, and on and on.
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Post# 6761-10/11/2001-15:00 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm having a recurring episode
MESSAGE: Hope you get well soon!
SD
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Post# 6762-10/11/2001-15:04 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT:
Troubles?
MESSAGE: Is anyone else having trouble logging in and/or reading posts?
I'm having a hard time today.
SD
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Post# 6763-10/11/2001-15:08 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture of the Day Problems
MESSAGE: You said micro. I saw a hotpoint walloven. Maybe it was a micro but I only saw half of it because this damn thing takes too long to load. We live too far out of the city to get high speed from the phone company and cable company wants too much.
SD
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Post# 6764-10/11/2001-16:38 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: THS post and More Pictures (Huh?)
MESSAGE: Huh? You must have seen these Dadoes, they were first announced on 12/1/00 in the old Yahoo Club. Post #11352
LINK: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/classicappliances
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Post# 6765-10/11/2001-17:36 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: THS post and More Pictures (Huh?)
MESSAGE: I think I saw them once, but didn't save them to my hard drive and have forgotten. It's a whole new experience now, Yay!
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Post# 6766-10/11/2001-18:46 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
WCDN instructions--not a booklet, just a sheet
MESSAGE: From my files to the world. Tom
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/tomturbomatic/lst?.dir=/Frigidaire+WCDN&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/tomturbomatic/lst%3f.dir=/Frigidaire%2bWCDN%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 6767-10/11/2001-19:24 ||| Lenny (Northeastern Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT:
Chat Room
MESSAGE: Hi all:
Ill be in the chat room for awhile if anyone would like to chat.
Lenny
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Post# 6768-10/11/2001-21:23 ||| steved (Albany NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm having a recurring episode (me too!!!)
MESSAGE: Bob, best wishes to you and speedy recovery from your illness.
Hope you're back soon in tip-top shape!! SteveD
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Post# 6769-10/11/2001-21:24 ||| trainguy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
RE: WCDN instructions--not a booklet, just a sheet
MESSAGE: Hi Tom. Thanks for sharing this info. I can't seem to find much paperwork for Frigidaire. I think these pieces of history are fascinating. Rich
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Post# 6770-10/11/2001-21:30 ||| steved (Albany NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: WCDN instructions--not a booklet, just a sheet
MESSAGE: Nice to see you in the evening now, TT....My parents had a WCDARN Frigidaire with the suds-saver and matching dryer. They didnt send a laundry tips booklet with ours either. That was in 1969.......I also have a GE Dishwasher booklet like the one you posted from ebay. I already had the installation instructions, but not the owners guide. Got them when I (many yrs ago) replaced a GE Electric Sink for the guy who ran the Employees Store at the Schenectady GE plant. There any employee could buy appliances at a discount, direct from the factory. Eventually, the factory discount became a rebate with a receipt from any dealer...Dont think GE does it anymore.....
Regards, SteveD
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Post# 6771-10/11/2001-22:08 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: WCDN instructions--not a booklet, just a sheet
MESSAGE: Tom, I imagine your files are bursting with wonderful things like this!
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Post# 6772-10/11/2001-22:37 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: WCDN instructions--not a booklet, just a sheet (fact sheet)
MESSAGE: Tom - this fact sheet is realy great,
Peter
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Post# 6773-10/11/2001-22:46 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: WCDN instructions--not a booklet, just a sheet
MESSAGE: Great scan Tom! Looks like you're learning how to do all this scanning stuff pretty quickly. YAY for us, because I know you have quite the library.
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Post# 6774-10/12/2001-06:44 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture of the Day Problems
MESSAGE: Occasionally, I'll see the same POD two days in a row. Thursday morning I saw the Hotpoint oven and I was viewer #2. Friday Morning, I went to the POD and was viewer #12. It was the same picture as Thursday. I clicked on the refresh button and I became viewer #13 and the agitation picture appeared!
I am using IE 6.0.26000.0000
I upgraded but I can't remember what version was on the PC when I bought it. The PC came with Windows ME.
Steve 1-18
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Post# 6775-10/12/2001-06:56 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
Read messages
MESSAGE: Another 'strange' occurance: When I read the posts, I usually don't log in. THe un read posts are royal blue. As I click on a number, they convert to lavender. If I log in to respond to a post, all the post numbers are royla blue, again, as if I haven't read them. As I click on a post, it changes to lavender.
It gets better --- if I read a post logged on and it is lavender, close the window, go back to applianceville (not logged on) the post I just read while logged on is royal blue (as if I had never read it).
Sorry guys, I HAVE TO HAVE SOME COFFEE.
Steve 1-18
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Post# 6776-10/12/2001-07:12 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT:
RE: Read messages
MESSAGE: It does the same thing to me too. I just logged in to post and they are now blue. Sometimes if I hit refresh or hit previous messages then come back to the most resent they will change to the lavender. Other times when I have this problem its because my puter has a glitch in it from the virus and I cant find it. The puter is getting to where it doesnt like to be turned off at all not even to restart after downloading up dates.
SD
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Post# 6777-10/12/2001-08:46 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: WCDN instructions--not a booklet, just a sheet
MESSAGE: AARGH! Too bad the WCDN I found was in such bad shape and destined for the krusher! I would love to have one of these!
-ph
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Post# 6778-10/12/2001-08:49 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Read messages
MESSAGE: Lavender? My read posts show as green...
-ph
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Post# 6779-10/12/2001-08:51 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: WCDN instructions--not a booklet, just a sheet
MESSAGE: oops... but I forgot to mention that I do have the top and control panel for this baby! YAY for that! Now to find another one with the water level control that isn't full of rust...
-ph
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Post# 6780-10/12/2001-09:10 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture of the Day Problems
MESSAGE: Hi Steve, I've know about that for a while, I do have an idea on how to fix that so you never have to press refresh to get todays new picture of the day. Its funny that it doesn't happen all the time though.
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Post# 6781-10/12/2001-09:13 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Read messages (Just Log In First)
MESSAGE: The best way to prevent that from happening is to always log in before you start to read the messages. The only way the system seems to remember whether you've read a post (and will change the link to lavendar or green or whatever you have your browser colors set to) is to log in. If you log in before you start reading the posts, it probably will remember what posts you have read.
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Post# 6782-10/12/2001-09:18 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper?
MESSAGE: ???
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Post# 6783-10/12/2001-11:33 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? (what's wrong with the wallpaper?)
MESSAGE: Hi Robert! My guess is that the filter pan is not the correct one for that machine. I think the older machines with the centered water flow to the pan used the copper-colored pan without the agitator cap. When GE changed to the turquoise colored pan with the agitator cap, the flow was moved to the right. Right?
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Post# 6784-10/12/2001-11:34 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: WCDN instructions--not a booklet, just a sheet
MESSAGE: YAY!
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Post# 6785-10/12/2001-13:13 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? (BUZZZzzzzzzzzzz)
MESSAGE: Hi Rich, nope that's not it. It's the correct filter pan for this machine.
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Post# 6786-10/12/2001-14:23 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? (BUZZZzzzzzzzzzz)
MESSAGE: It looks to me like there isn't any water in the machine, so nothing should be coming out of the Filter-Flo?
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Post# 6787-10/12/2001-14:38 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? (BUZZZzzzzzzzzzz)
MESSAGE: I`d say the same as Glen,
No water in the tub, so nothing should be coming out the filter flo, or should it???????????
Mike
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Post# 6788-10/12/2001-14:41 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: WCDN instructions--not a booklet, just a sheet (fact sheet)
MESSAGE: Hi Peter
Is it your birthday today or have I read the date format wrong????
If so "Happy Birthday" from the UK
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 6789-10/12/2001-14:48 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: WCDN instructions--not a booklet, just a sheet
MESSAGE: Hi Tom
Happy to browse your files, whats next.....
Any Dutch Ovens with Slide-to-you racks?????
I`ve got a lot of spare time this week as Ty has just flew to Boston today for a week with work.....
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 6790-10/12/2001-14:52 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm having a recurring episode (Any news????)
MESSAGE: Has anybody heard how Bob is????
Mike
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Post# 6791-10/12/2001-15:02 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm having a recurring episode (Any news????)
MESSAGE: Not a peep. I don't have a phone number for him, but I think some of the others do. Of course, if he's in hospital having surgery . . . no phone access.
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Post# 6792-10/12/2001-15:28 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? (I spy...)
MESSAGE: No, there's definitely something in there. I kinda looks to me like there is clear water coming from the pump, but the water coming out from the pan is yellowish-green, like the Filter Flo changes water into pea soup. Either that or there is a big pea green blanket in the machine being washed. Maybe a Mini-Basket?
Faded wallpaper is a terrible thing...
-ph
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Post# 6793-10/12/2001-15:30 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? (I spy...)
MESSAGE: Or there's something wrong about the rubber clothes guard "disconnecting" where the water is being pumped in...
-ph
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Post# 6794-10/12/2001-15:41 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
Frigidaire washer parts
MESSAGE: I sure don't recognize a bleach dispenser in the parts shown. Looks more like a fabric softener dispenser...
-ph
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1284771777
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Post# 6795-10/12/2001-16:37 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: WCDN instructions--not a booklet, just a sheet
MESSAGE: Glenn, thank you and yes, bursting is a good word. Overflowing would work also. TT
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Post# 6796-10/12/2001-16:46 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper?
MESSAGE: Robert, the filter flo is operating with less than a full water level which is not the way it was in real life because the water had to overflow the top of the tub to provide water for the pump to squirt. With less than a full tub of water you put the detergent in the bottom before adding the load and did not use the filter pan for dispensing it. There would be a brief burst of water through the flume when the machine first started agitating after you pressed Water Saver, but that was it. Tom
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Post# 6797-10/12/2001-17:15 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? (BUZZZzzzzzzzzzz)
MESSAGE: No, I know its hard to see, but the tub is half full of water and its being recirculated.
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Post# 6798-10/12/2001-17:16 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? (I spy...)
MESSAGE: "Faded wallpaper is a terrible thing... "
Its faded so you can read the text over the wallpaper picture.
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Post# 6799-10/12/2001-17:17 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frigidaire washer parts
MESSAGE: It's a 1/18 Fabric Softener Dispenser.
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Post# 6800-10/12/2001-17:26 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? (NOPE)
MESSAGE: Nope, that's not it either Tom. YAY - I just love it when I can even fool Tom, that's not an easy thing to do!!! Of course the picture is hard to see, so I'm sorta cheating, here is a non faded, larger version...
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/unimatic1140/vwp?.dir=/General+Electric&.dnm=GE-Filter-Flo-+What+is+Unusual.jpg&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/unimatic1140/vwp%3f.dir=/General%2bElectric%26.dnm=Low%2bWater%2bAgitation.jpg%26.src=ph
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Post# 6801-10/12/2001-18:03 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
Duet training
MESSAGE: Well, from 8-3 today we were in training. Not all of it was for the Duet; maybe 2.5 hrs. It was great. There were maybe a 19 of us. I know there were people from Best Buy there. I ate with one of the BB serivce supervisors. He told me how awful the Maytag Gemini range was. He said that people trying to get stuff out of the lower oven have burned their knees and other body parts on the door which is open at almost floor level.
Anyway, we learned about the Duet. I am very sold on it because in looking over the cycle charts, I saw that it extracts at 800 rpm between the wash and rinses. You can add the extra rinse and it is them placed between the first rinse and the softener rinse. We had a lot of fun taking it apart. There were 4 machines. Alco had 5 men on the team and we finished first. We were first to have the outer tub apart and the drum out and then the whole thing back together again. I asked the instructor if he had sold the machines and he said that the way the plastic tabs were breaking off things like the hinge covers, he might just scrap the machines after training. I told him we were famous for turning chicken s**t into chicken salad and would really like to have them at a good price. He promised to let us know. It is interesting that this machine will not be as gentle with handwashables as the Calypso because it does not do the fill up and float 'em for delicates that the Miele does, nor does it have the gentle no nutating washing of the Calypso for extreme delicates where they just ride around under the shower. The instructor said that the Calypso would give better rinsing of dirt from clothing. I do not know if that is because the Calypso uses more water, or is just some bias. I would think that the machine would be better for large items, like we have discussed. Everytime it fills, water goes through the window washer. More later. John and Jason are ready to eat and then we have to load his truck. Tom
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Post# 6802-10/12/2001-18:13 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? (Golittlesport's answer?)
MESSAGE: Did you see Rich's post about the filter pan being wrong for that machine? That's not the answer?
LINK: http://classicappliances.com/NEW%20DISCUSS/DISCUSSION%20POSTS/6783.html
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Post# 6803-10/12/2001-18:15 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Duet training
MESSAGE: Thanks Tom! Love the details.
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Post# 6804-10/12/2001-18:29 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? (NOPE)
MESSAGE: Hi Robert;
I not a real expert with GE's nor am I a fan, but the filter pan is solid and for that time period it should be a metal one with a hole in the center for the agitator to stick thru! (lol)
"Brooklyn Robert"
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Post# 6805-10/12/2001-19:01 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Duet training
MESSAGE: Tom, that sounds like a lot of fun. I sure wish I was able to be there with you guys, but it didn't work out that way because of things going on at work. I'm going to try to come in a few weeks.
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Post# 6806-10/12/2001-19:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? (Errrrzzzzzzz)
MESSAGE: I'll say it again, that is the CORRECT filter pan for that washer.
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Post# 6807-10/12/2001-19:09 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? (Errrrzzzzzzz)
MESSAGE: Hi Robert;
I have to leave for work this is my last guess, I will say the water for the filter flow is in the center it should be coming from the right side for that General Electric model! Have a great night!
"Brooklyn Robert"
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Post# 6808-10/12/2001-19:15 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? (Errrrzzzzzzz)
MESSAGE: No, but your getting warmer.
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Post# 6809-10/12/2001-19:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frigidaire washer parts
MESSAGE: Did the one with the center cone work better than the shallow one? The shallow one doesn't work for crap, all the softener gets bounced around and nearly all dribbles out through the whole wash period.
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Post# 6810-10/12/2001-19:34 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? (a wild guess)
MESSAGE: The washer is filling (not agitating) but the water should be coming in through the fill flume and not the filter-flo tube.
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Post# 6811-10/12/2001-20:35 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? (a wild guess)
MESSAGE: Also, the clothes do not look at all wet, which supports jasonl's theory
Eddy
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Post# 6812-10/12/2001-20:42 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? (...and)
MESSAGE: The clothes don't appear to be moving. They're just laying flat.
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Post# 6813-10/12/2001-21:16 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? (a wild guess)
MESSAGE: This is the very first year of the perforated basket introduced in 1961.
I have not seen a GE with the filter-flo in the center and a perf. basket, but who knows, it could be true!
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Post# 6814-10/12/2001-21:18 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? (...and)
MESSAGE: This is a picture taken from the actual magazine ad for the 1961 model. I have the ad from The American Home, December 1960.
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Post# 6815-10/12/2001-21:25 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? (my grandmother's GE)
MESSAGE: My grandmother's GE was from the 60s but the filter-flo flume was to the right a little and the fill flume was under the clothes guard. She washed her delicates in the mini-basket with the filter-flo on top with her regular clothes in the regular wash tub. The spin cycle was very LOUD because it was on an unsteady floor. It shook the house and made lots of banging around. Scared me to death when I was a little kid.
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Post# 6816-10/12/2001-21:35 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? (my grandmother's GE)
MESSAGE: I had one from the late 60's years ago, but the filter-flo nozzle was to the right as well. I only have a little service & sales information for GE - mostly very early 50's or late 60's and 70's. The Repair-Master I have is for the solid tub machines.
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Post# 6817-10/12/2001-21:41 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
More Duet stuff
MESSAGE: Because of the big opening, the machine has a childproof cycle start. When you first start the washer the door is locked. The tub fills with cold water for 3 seconds, most of which is routed into the glass washer spray so that it hits the glass and bounces backwards into the basket. The door is unlocked for 5 seconds so that the child inside who got doused with cold water can escape and then the door is locked and the wash cycle begins. There is also a venting system that prevents suffocation inside. The European versions do not have either of these. One of the first things he told the ALCO group was that WP was working on a domestic combination washer-dryer version. We told him that we knew it was available in Europe and he knew that too, but said that the macchine over there took about 3 hours to do the whole cycle and they were trying to get the time down for a US version. Since the spin is actually 1168 rpm and the regular heavy spins at that speed for 4 minutes after getting most of the water out and the load balanced, maybe this is not that far behind the Sears and might do as well as a Unimatic at extracting. We loved the big clear door for looking into the basket. The tub is supported on 4 shocks in the base and suspended from two springs midway on each side at the top. For removing the tub, you just grab each shock, give it a quarter turn counterclockwise and it disengages from its socket on the tub. Reinstallation is just the reverse. We did all of this in a nice carpeted room where we were down on the floor like in kindergarten and having just about as good a time. TT
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Post# 6818-10/12/2001-21:49 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? (a wild guess)
MESSAGE: That would be my guess also - I just got to see the larger, less faded picture and it appears as though the washer is filling but not agitating...........
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Post# 6819-10/12/2001-21:57 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: More Duet stuff
MESSAGE: Tom - I am new to the Duets and HT-3's. Is Whirlpool the actual manufacturer for the US? If not then who is? Also, based on what you observed - are these worth the investment right now since this is their first year and may need some "settling in" time?
Lastly, just an observation on all this Calypso stuff - when you look at this "revolutionary wash technology", isn't this in some ways an expanded version of the same principle Philco-Bendix was using on their 1959 and later top loaders???
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Post# 6820-10/12/2001-22:28 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? (...and)
MESSAGE: Actually, that's pretty typical of the anemic GE Filter-Flo agitator action (if my '78 is any indication).
:-)
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Post# 6821-10/12/2001-22:30 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: More Duet stuff
MESSAGE: Did the instructor give you all graham crackers, milk, and a nap time afterwards?
;-)
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Post# 6822-10/12/2001-22:35 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: More Duet stuff
MESSAGE: Angus,
The Duet (and similar Kenmore HE3/t) washers are made in Germany by Whirpool's subsidary, Bauchneckt (sp?). The dryers are made somewhere in the USA. There has been mention over in THS that one user got the bisque HE3t set, and the color does not match between washer and dryer... which is not too surprising considering the big pond between mfg sites.
Tom's details on his training are great! I suspect however that the instructor is a bit biased in favor of the Calypso. There have been lots of complaints over in THS about how it doesn't remove dirt very well, although some users swear by it instead of at it.
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Post# 6823-10/12/2001-23:35 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: More Duet stuff
MESSAGE: Hello Anthony, The Duet and Hettie washers are made in Germany. They are a sized up version of a machine that has been made for years the guy said. I don't know what there is to fear. WP and Sears are very good about customer satisfaction. If you don't like or it has problems, you ask for your money back or whatever.
No, while the wobble plate technology was used by Philco in the 50s, they were using an energy disc in a tub full of water. The Calypso uses a wobbling bottom of a wash basket that does not fill with water. Tom
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Post# 6824-10/12/2001-23:37 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: More Duet stuff
MESSAGE: No, we were treated to a very good lunch like always and got a tool as a gift for attending.
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Post# 6825-10/12/2001-23:45 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: More Duet stuff
MESSAGE: I know two very particular people who really like their Calypsos. However, one who has a dog admits that the machine does not remove dog hair from things; that it has to come off the clothing in the dryer. I just think that large loads will do better in a machine that tumbles the load and lets gravity help rather than just having it sit and jiggle with gravity working against movement, but that is my bias. We saw the demo lid for the Calypso at the Best Buy near us and phoned our WP sales support contact today to see about ordering it.
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Post# 6826-10/12/2001-23:48 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? (DING-DING-DING)
MESSAGE: DING-DING-DING, thank you Greg, you are the big winner of the day! What's strange about this pictures is its a 1961 GE Filter-Flo Washer, the first year with a perforated basket, and the faster-shorter stroke agitation. BUT the Filter-Flo spout is located at the 12:00 position, just like in the '55-'60 solid basket machines. In 1962 they moved the spout to the 1:30 position which was kept all the up to the demise of that design in the mid 1990's.
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Post# 6827-10/12/2001-01:42 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: More Duet stuff
MESSAGE: Bauknecht (= farmhand)
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Post# 6828-10/12/2001-01:45 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: More Duet stuff
MESSAGE: I hope it isn't a "Bauchneckt" because that would mean something like "tease for the belly". LOL
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Post# 6829-10/13/2001-05:11 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: More Duet stuff
MESSAGE: Tom - thanks for the clarification. Since the technology leading to the Duet/H3t has been around a while, I agree there is probably nothing to fear - especially with the refund deal.....
On the other comment - I only meant that the concept seemed similar to what Philco was trying to do........
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Post# 6830-10/13/2001-07:27 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
Old Siemens washer
MESSAGE: If I only had a basent like Robert's.... This is a wonderful TOL Siemens frontloader. It has an extra door and the controls are on top. I have never seen this model before. Although they say it's 21 years old I think it's more than 30 years old.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.de/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1648990008
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Post# 6831-10/13/2001-07:29 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
And an old Miele
MESSAGE: This is the same model as many mother's of children I grew up with had at home.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.de/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1648993270
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Post# 6832-10/13/2001-07:34 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
And the matching Miele dryer
MESSAGE: Pure coincidence, but somebody else is selling the matching Miele dryer. I think my mother's best friend still has one like that too.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.de/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1281425051
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Post# 6833-10/13/2001-07:45 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? (Longest run)
MESSAGE: Kenmore Belt Drive ~1952-1987 - 35 years
GE Filter-Flo (Perforated basket, FF tube offset) ~1962-1994(?) -32 years.
But, Kenmore/Whirlpool changed the design a little in the early 70s for the 18lb basket. I don't think GE changed a thing until they went to the new design.
If those numbers aren't correct, it's probably close.
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Post# 6834-10/13/2001-07:53 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: And the matching Miele dryer (Speaking German)
MESSAGE: I don't speak German at all but the cool thing about it is how it's so close to English, I can read those ebay items and get the meaning of most of it.
Waschmaschine = washing machine
Cool :)
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Post# 6835-10/13/2001-08:34 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: And an old Miele
MESSAGE: Wow, that looks a lot like a 1950 Bendix, just like the one Jetcone recently found.
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Post# 6836-10/13/2001-08:35 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? (Longest run)
MESSAGE: The Kenmore Belt Drive was introduced in 1948.
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Post# 6837-10/13/2001-08:39 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? (DING-DING-DING)
MESSAGE: I would love to find this 1961 washer, expecially in Pink as shown in the picture. Of course I need another washer like I need a hole in my head, but that's never stopped me before. I've been working on the GE wing of the museum and it should be ready in a few days.
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Post# 6838-10/13/2001-10:01 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: More Duet stuff
MESSAGE: Anthony, yes the concept is similar, but Philco was trying to move water and the Calypso is just trying to move clothes. Tom
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Post# 6839-10/13/2001-10:03 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? (Longest run)
MESSAGE: Then you would have to say that GE changed slightly, too, for the larger capacity machines from the original V-12.
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Post# 6840-10/13/2001-10:08 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: And the matching Miele dryer
MESSAGE: Oh Louis --- I think you should start a Craters-n-Freighters biz over there and start shipping these beauties to the states, there are several here that would love to have these in their collections! Thanks for the links.
Is anyone saving these pictures somewhere?
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Post# 6841-10/13/2001-10:39 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: And the matching Miele dryer
MESSAGE: Yeah right, if I had enough money I would put a whole barn full with these old washers and dryers. Then we could also have a convention overhere in Europe!
I just had an idea, I'll create a new album with pictures of old European washers and dryers. I have quite a few pictures. If I only had all these washers.....
Louis
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Post# 6842-10/13/2001-11:29 ||| appliguy (Vienna Va.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? (Kenmore Belt drives 1947-1987)
MESSAGE: Jason
The 1900 Corp. made its first automatic washer in 1947 For Sears Kenmore. In 1948 it brought out its own version called the Whirlpool. In 1950 1900 Corp. changed its name to Whirlpool Corp. prior to 1950 Whirlpool had been a model name for 1900 Corp. washers. According to my research the name Whirlpool goes all the way back to the 20's as a model name used by 1900 Corp. Has anyone ever noticeed how Sears has managed to get the new and better features before Whirlpool itself does? It seems to me that Kenmore washers even today have more bells and whistles than comparitive Whirlpool models do. What do you guys think about this?
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Post# 6843-10/13/2001-11:40 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? (Kenmore/Whirlpool)
MESSAGE: Kenmore always got the new innovation with Whirly coming in second. Some kind of marketing scheme I guess.
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Post# 6844-10/13/2001-13:01 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: More Duet stuff
MESSAGE: Who knows? It could be a brilliant marketing move!
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Post# 6845-10/13/2001-13:03 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? (DING-DING-DING)
MESSAGE: Would you be interested in some shots of the 78 filter flo? It will have to be non-operational, though, although I might be able to position it in a nice garden setting.
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Post# 6846-10/13/2001-14:56 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? (DING-DING-DING)
MESSAGE: That would be great Anthony. See post #5528 for info on how to submit your '78 GE to the museum. If you don't have a digital camera or scanner, you can send me photographcs for scanning like Robert did.
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Post# 6847-10/13/2001-14:59 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: More Duet stuff
MESSAGE: Tom, my forthcoming comments are biased regarding the Calypso. It really is a unique machine and it is capable of producing very clean and well extracted loads of laundry. In my opinion; yes there is a learning curve.....and once beyond; it is quite satisfactory. The cycles are designed and named for each type of washload.......this is different than an agitator automatic that basically varies agitation speed and time with different settings. The Calypso can during certain cycles execute spin/spray cleaning in combination with periods of 'nutation'......these cycles are for everyday apparel etc. The more vigorous cycles are reserved for work/play clothes, heavy loads of cotton items etc. I have read about cleaning issues etc. In some cases I'm thinking the wrong cycle was selected, wrong detergent used and/or the machine was overloaded. Someone recently on THS in connection with a Calypso said there were dry spots in his load of laundry......well duh, I guess it's safe to say his machine was seriously overloaded! Whirlpool has invested a lot of research, time and money and certainly the intention was not produce something that could not perform. Another area of concern is the lack of user interest to read the instructions and view the video tape included with the unit. Seeing this now with the hE3t too. It's a shame, folks are anxious to plunk down some serious $$$$ but can't take a few minutes time to learn about what they just bought. Anyway, the Calypso continues to sell very well and there are lots of them out there......remember in about 5-6 years hence....it's going to be a whole new laundry world thanks to the dept of energy. You doing the wash with an eyedropper of water etc. So surely there will be lots new concepts and ideas coming. Enough of this rambling......have a good weekend folks
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Post# 6848-10/13/2001-15:05 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Duet training
MESSAGE: Tom the Kenmore version has a silk and ultra-handwash cycle that actually fills the drum with quite a bit of water....right up to the lower rim of the window, and it has a rocking drum motion, where the drum just oscillates periodically. The silk cycle does not include a spin, whereas the ultra-handwash has a brief low speed spin. This is said to be very gentle......emulates hand washing in a sink.
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Post# 6849-10/13/2001-15:06 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? (DING-DING-DING)
MESSAGE: Okily dokily, big fella. I have a scanner and a couple of 35 mm cameras. I may even be able to run a load in the courtyard connected up to the cold water hose... as long as my neighbor doesn't complain about the soapy water running under the fence! Perhaps I should just run it w/o detergent.
BTW, mi nombre es Ricardo, no esta Antonio.
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Post# 6850-10/13/2001-15:11 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: We'll its been a few months since I've posted my Estate Sale Saturday hunting pictures, so we're long over due...
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/estatesale5/lst?&.dir=/Estate+Sale+Saturday+Oct+13+2001&.src=ph&.begin=9999&.view=t&.order=&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/estatesale5/lst%3f%26.dir=/Estate%2bSale%2bSaturday%2bOct%2b13%2b2001%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 6851-10/13/2001-15:14 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? (DING-DING-DING)
MESSAGE: Ooops, I'm sorry Rich, I was getting you and Angus mixed up. Too much dust at the sales today I guess.
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Post# 6852-10/13/2001-17:00 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Robert,
That looks like a really wonderful autumn estate sale day. Interesting washers today. What is the red pushbutton for on top of the Maytag helical? And what are you going to do with the gyrator, naughty boy?
Louis
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Post# 6853-10/13/2001-19:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
Today's Detergent Specials
MESSAGE: Went to three sales today, didn't see anything like the fun washers Robert saw, but we did haul home another box of vintage soaps & detergents. I was thrilled with the boxes of unopened Ivory Snow as they are the same box my grandmother had for years and I'd always wished I'd kept. The Cascade was an interesting find too, especially since this house had no dishwasher.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/threeringagitator/vwp?.dir=/My+Photos&.src=ph&.dnm=Today%27s+Specials.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/threeringagitator/lst%3f%26.dir=/My%2bPhotos%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 6854-10/13/2001-19:37 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: That 56 Maytag was beautiful! That Westy t/l washer is from the 60's, I have about a thousand of the control knobs and timer dials - interesting water outlets around the top of the tub. I'll check to see if I have some service stuff for this vintage of machine to see how it's all put together. I would love to find a TOL washer from this era, they were quite stylish.
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Post# 6855-10/13/2001-19:56 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
A great Saturday
MESSAGE: I was at another friend's house today and her mom was doing laundry. Of course, curious Jason had to know what was behind the door. Must to my delight....
Guess what I saw???
A FRIGMORE!!!!!!!!!
It was the Kenmore 41012 or whatever the model# used to be (controls on the front). I told her mom that I'm thinking about getting a Frigmore so I grilled her on how the machine worked and how she liked it. She said so far that she loves it. It doesn't make as much lint and it's more gentle with her delicates (Do I make you horny baby?). Well, she saw the want in my eyes to play with the Frigmore so she said "Go ahead, turn it on". OH BEHAVE! YEAH BABY YEAH!!! So I set the controls and started the washer.
First impression: Quiet. You can hear the water going in but not much of the motor. She used HE detergent so there wasn't much suds and I could see the water inside the machine but I could see the clothes. Watching a F/L run is cheap entertainment. I was in a bind cause I wanted to see the girl that lived there but the Frigmore had my attention (not sure how good that was). The spin cycle of course blows me away. The sound those things make are unreal. It gives me such a burst of adrenaline and excitement as it accelerates to 1000rpm. The first burst was up to 300?rpm. It sounds like a jet getting reddy to warm up for takeoff. The next step was afterburners all the way. OH YEAH! The machine had a little shake to it while accelerating but nothing bad. At full speed it was just fine.
Now I've seen them both. I saw a F&P do its thing and I saw a Frigmore do its thing. Frigmore rules. Anything better than that is a Hettie but that won't fit in my house.
Now when Whirly dies, Frigmore's coming home.
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Post# 6856-10/13/2001-20:13 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Westinghouse TL)
MESSAGE: Were the Westy TL's of the 60s good quality compared the one's today? I was at Best Buy the other day and saw some Frigidaire TL's. Very disturbing not to see the Jetcone.
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Post# 6857-10/13/2001-20:14 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? (70s GE)
MESSAGE: I would love to see some action shots of your 70s GE washer. Can't wait.
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Post# 6858-10/13/2001-20:54 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Estate sale)
MESSAGE: Robert
Real cool Estate sale
Peter
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Post# 6859-10/13/2001-21:10 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Detergent Specials
MESSAGE: What great finds!!! I don't know what it is about my area, but I have yet to find anything at a tag or estate sale like that! And, TWO unopened boxes of Ivory Snow!!!
But what is the stuff next to the Cascade?, and is Dexol some kind of regional brand? - never saw that one before!!
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Post# 6860-10/13/2001-21:18 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: A great Saturday
MESSAGE: I just recommended the Frigmore to a friend and they are ecstatic with it. Said the same thing - can hardly hear a thing until the final spin. And they love the washing results!!
My experience with those machines was at my "ex's" house in Florida. He put them in his condo in 1997 when he remodeled. I remember that his was very quiet - but I did think that the draining was slightly noisy. And on the early Frigidaire Gallery, you didn't get to pick your final spin speed. At the end of the regular cycle, there was a 60 second "fast spin". And you're right, that shift to fast spin sounded like take off with a 747!!! Pretty great., But cher, can your floor support that machine?? I may even have a problem in my house since my laundry has a wood floor..................
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Post# 6861-10/13/2001-21:25 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Westinghouse TL)
MESSAGE: Interesting question. Once again, I am no engineer, but from what I know, Westinghouse did not enjoy a reputation for quality laundry equipment. I was a voracious Consumer Reports reader in the 60's and 70's and Westinghouse laundry usually ranked at the lower end of the ratings. I also found my 1969 Consumer Reports buying guide issue with the frequency of repair histories from 1959 - 1969. Sadly, Westinghouse along with Norge, Philco, Hamilton and Kelvinator washers and dryers had repair records every year that were consistently "much worse than average".
I also found out from that issue that for one year, Hoover actually made a full size washer and dryer. Apparently that didn't go over so well........................
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Post# 6862-10/13/2001-21:51 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: A great Saturday (wood floor)
MESSAGE: I'm going to bolt down a 3/4" piece of plywood to the 2x4's underneath the floor. The floor is plywood and 2x4's under the trailer hold it up. Isn't a top-loader actually heavier when it's full of water? I'll just have to try it.
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Post# 6863-10/13/2001-21:56 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Which had the best?)
MESSAGE: Which washer had the best repair history in the 60s/70s? Now, they consistantly give the Whirlpool types the best reliability ratings. Go Whirly.. Frigmore I meant :-D
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Post# 6864-10/13/2001-22:16 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (YAY!!!!!)
MESSAGE: Thanks Robert for the Estate Sale pictures, I have been hoping that you would post some again!! The trees are really beautiful in the background. Terry
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Post# 6865-10/13/2001-22:23 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Detergent Specials (Great finds Greg)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg, You sure have been lucky finding the vintage laundry products of late. I remember that silver box of Calgon well. I remember that my mom bought Cascade before we had a dishwasher. It was great for removing stains like tea from Tupperware. Terry
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Post# 6866-10/13/2001-22:25 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Which had the best?)
MESSAGE: OK - Jason, it looks like overall, Maytag was the most consistently ranked "clearly better than average"(every year from 1959-1967). For 1968 and 1969, no brand achieved better than "average" ratings. GE had the next best with mixed "averages, "better than averages" and "clearly better than averages". Sears, Whirlpool, Frigidaire (GM) and Speed Queen all had a pretty much "average" repair record. The reaminder - Norge, Philco, Westinghouse, Hotpoint, Wards, Easy, Kelvinator and Hamilton all had consistent ratings of "Clearly poorer than average". You should also know that this is based on the number of respondents to the Consumer Reports annual survey. For the 1969 buying guide, here is the breakdown of brands and number of respondents:
Sears - 50,000
Maytag - 30,000
GE - 25,500
Whirlpool - 12,000
Frigidaire - 10,500
Norge - 4,000
Hotpoint - 3,500
Speed Queen - 2750
Wards - 2,250
Kelvinator - 1,250
Philco - 1,000
Easy - 850
Hamilton - 500
I have the same information for dryers also.....................
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Post# 6867-10/13/2001-22:30 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
I'm home
MESSAGE: With lots and lots of goodies from Tom and John. When I wake up from a long, long deep sleep I will post picts of some of the things that found their way into the truck.
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Post# 6868-10/13/2001-22:50 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: More Duet stuff
MESSAGE: Leslie, since we have had Calypso training, I know about the cycles and that is why I was surprised at the instructor's saying that the Calypso would do better than the Duet. He did say that with the Calypso the dog hair would either wind up in the tub or stay in the load and have to come off in the dryer. I can understand that. One of the solutions given years ago to the problem of linty washes was too low a water level or crowding too many colthes in the washer so that they could not circulate freely in the water. If there is not sufficient water to flush and float away solid soil like dog fur, it will have to stay with the clothes until they can tumble freely in the dryer. Interesting that the service update section of training devoted more space than I have ever seen devoted to the washability problems of the new tall tub dishwashers. Must mean that they are having a lot of complaints. Told us to make sure wash arms are not clogged and dishes are not nested in racks. It will be fun to watch them come up with redesigns to make the things wash. Instructor did not want to talk about this too much; said the ultimate solution might be people telling DOE that the DW water standards are too tight. He, and I guess WP & KA seem to want to blame the tearing of the filter due to careless loading on all the problems. I will be hanging on to my modified 18s for as long as I can. KA is also having problems with the porcelain floors on the builtin ovens with the concealed bake element. I brought up the potential of that problem at the dinner meeting when they were introduced back in the 90s. I told them that the electric ranges from the late 40s - early 50s where that was tried had serious porcelain damage to the oven floor and that we had a few tht showed this. They did not know about the old ranges, but said the new porcelain was better. GUESS WHAT? they are having problems. I wonder if they thought that all the fancy people buying their ovens would only be cooking with the convection mode? It is generally better to look at history so that you can learn from others' mistakes rather than have to repeat them. I am quite disappointed in the company. They have managed to hurt two good lines of dishwashers over the last few years, KA earlier and now WP's tall tubs. Your statement about the intent of all the research was not to lead to something that does not perform certainly is not the case with the DWs. BW TT
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Post# 6869-10/13/2001-22:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: I think the red button is the unbalanced load reset button Louis, since this machine did not have a safety lid switch.
As for the gyrator, I'm going to use it to gyrate of course.
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Post# 6870-10/13/2001-22:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Detergent Specials
MESSAGE: I LOVE those packages of Cascade Greg, too bad that had to write on them!
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Post# 6871-10/13/2001-22:55 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm home
MESSAGE: Glad you're home safe and sound Jason.
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Post# 6872-10/13/2001-23:03 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Duet training
MESSAGE: Leslie, If I am reading the cycle charts right, the delicate, wool-silk and handwash cycles on the Duet fill higher also. He did not tell us about these cycles or any variation of the water level for them. And, the training was not conducted in a place where we could see the machine operate, a serious shortcoming. Maybe the trainers' training needs to accent that this machine does protect delicates. Maybe the sales meeting will have it right. Of course, we were told in training that the Calypso does not nutate for the extremely delicate and hand wash settings, but the sales meetings did not have that information and showed nutation for those cycles. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I wonder if the bias against this machine is the trainer's or goes further up the corporate ladder. thanks again, tt
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Post# 6873-10/13/2001-23:15 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Robert, Thank you. That 102s Maytag is the suds saver sibling to my little time fill 102. That must have been one of the cheaper Maytag wringers with the speckled porcelain tub. did you buy the all buckets? Tom
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Post# 6874-10/13/2001-23:18 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Gyrator)
MESSAGE: Yes, Robert, I am unclear on which part of the Gyrator you bought, the base or the ladies' home companion? I have never seen a two parter before.
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Post# 6875-10/13/2001-23:21 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Detergent Specials
MESSAGE: Greg, Cascade was good for cleaning coffee pots so maybe they had it for that. Love the Ivory box. TT
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Post# 6876-10/13/2001-23:22 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Our first Wh front loader had a very similar control panel.
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Post# 6877-10/13/2001-23:32 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Hi Tom, yes I did buy both of the All detergent buckets. One of them had the original lid, which is very rare.
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Post# 6878-10/13/2001-23:48 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: A great Saturday (wood floor)
MESSAGE: Jason,
You crack me up with your laundro-love. Kewl!!!
Anyway, the difference in shaking between a TL and a FL is that the FL shakes more up and down (as well as side to side). The TL shakes only from side to side. So if your floor is bouncy, the FL will vibrate more than on a solid floor.
I don't know what you might do to reduce the bounce. Can you build a cinder block minifoundation under the washroom?
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Post# 6879-10/13/2001-00:10 ||| Lenny (Northeastern Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT:
Chat Room Tropical Bloom
MESSAGE: Just finished another small load of throw-rugs in my Maytag Atlantis. I wish I could take in tons of laundry so I could wash all night long. Im using powdered Cheer and 'Tropical Bloom' Downey. My house smells SOOOO nice as the dryer brings out the tropical scent. Im sure the neighbors can smell the venting dryer of tropical blooms! LOLOL Anyway, Ill be in the chat room for awhile if anyone comes along and wants to say hi. Just not tired tonight but ran out of laundry!!!
Lenny
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Post# 6880-10/13/2001-00:51 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Detergent Specials (Don't write on the labels!!)
MESSAGE: I scolded them last week for writing prices in marker on the boxes & labels where it's visible. The problem is that most don't know the difference between vintage, old and new (to us it's obvious, but after pricing 1000 $1 items, they don't care) and said they would try not to. I showed the Cascade boxes to one guy I know and he said "that's old?" I told him it was and strange there was no dishwasher either. He hadn't noticed that...
Anyway, I can remove some of the price markings (especially on slick surface labels like the Cascade) with a kleenex and lighter fluid. I just cleaned it off the Cascade box - so it's back to it's orginal vintage glory!
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Post# 6881-10/13/2001-00:57 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Detergent Specials
MESSAGE: Dexol was a brand of Tidy House Products of Omaha, NE and Malta, OH. The Dexol box on top has the Tidy House name next to the Dexol logo.
Don't know anymore than that - most of these are older than I am! I would love to get a large sample box of detergent like the Bold and Ajax nowadays - tiny boxes, bottles and "ploids" of samples are all you see now, if you see those. I've gotten some neat free samples from some of the online sample sites.
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Post# 6882-10/13/2001-01:01 ||| spiralator60 (Los Angeles, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: More Duet stuff (Domestic Combination Washer-Dryer)
MESSAGE: Tom,
This is welcome news! Did the trainer say what sort of wash and dry time was being looked at? Personally, I would be able to live with a three hour cycle, although I would have to change my weekly laundry routine. Also, do you think that other US appliance makers are looking it bringing out a combination machine as well? This reminds me of 1996, when Frigidaire, Maytag, and Amana all announced that each company was developing a front loading washer for the US market. Things really began to happen when Frigidaire began issuing illustrations of what the machine would look like in periodicals like Business Week and Popular Mechanics, and then the television commercials showing the operating machine itself.
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Post# 6883-10/13/2001-01:43 ||| spiralator60 (Los Angeles, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Westinghouse TL )
MESSAGE: There were two neighbors on our street who bought Westinghouse top loaders around the same time, 1968-69. One family, across the street, was replacing a 1960 Laundromat. Their daughter was about the same age as me, and she said that her mother was replacing their washer only because she liked the looks of the top loader, and that after eight years it was about the time to replace the machine. The model, and the matching dryer, that family bought was really a sharp looking machine, a top of the line model that looked a lot like the one in the Tide commercials at that time. It had two control dials next to each other, along with a panel of other controls and a fluorescent light over the control panel. I'm not sure of the reason why, but the family replaced the machine about ten years later with a Maytag set, which they still have.
The other family, a few doors down, bought a similar Westinghouse machine. It may have been the top of the line model, but I remember that it had the Weigh To Save feature, where the other neighbor's machine did not. The only use that this particular feature ever got was when the family's two sons pressed down on the button to the left of the lid to see how much force it would take to register an Extra Large load. This was not done very much, as their mother found out about this and the practice quickly ended. Last I heard, the machine is still working, even after a few repairs over the years. The machine got a fair amount of constant use for a time, as both sons played high school, and then college, football. In both cases, I remember that when my mother was looking for a new washer in 1968, both neighbors told Mom that they really liked the performance of their machines, and had not experienced much trouble with them. As it turned out, Mom and Dad decided to get a Maytag, which lasted over twenty years without a problem.
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Post# 6884-10/14/2001-05:55 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Just love that westy!)
MESSAGE: Thanx Again Uni. I love estate sale saturday because I get to see such a variety of machines.
I just loved that Westy! It reminds me of my Aunty's machine, the control panel was different and it was a seventies model, but it was very similar and I just loved that machine.
Did you purchase any of these machines?
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Post# 6885-10/14/2001-05:56 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? (DING-DING-DING)
MESSAGE: Woo Hoo!
Cant wait!
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Post# 6886-10/14/2001-06:00 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? (DING-DING-DING)
MESSAGE: Really Looking forward to this Uni!
I see some cool GE's in TT's photo albusm, cant wait to see them in more detail!
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Post# 6887-10/14/2001-06:05 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Detergent Specials
MESSAGE: Tell me about the on line free sample sites - I just love free stuff. I too, would love to see giant and king size boxes of vintage detergents. I have managed to score a few regular size boxes on ebay, but nothing larger than that. I also was particularly fond of the P&G giant and king size boxes because I thought the whale used to denote giant and crown used for king size were so cool..............
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Post# 6888-10/14/2001-06:07 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Westinghouse TL )
MESSAGE: Well - I guess there is good and bad in every brand.................
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Post# 6889-10/14/2001-06:09 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? (DING-DING-DING)
MESSAGE: Can't sait to see pictures of the GE wing!!!!!!!!
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Post# 6890-10/14/2001-06:13 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
Scott Please reconsider.
MESSAGE: "That said, this is probably going to be my swan song on this forum. I'm so tired of battling idiots lately, as you have been witness to recently as well, that this has long since ceased to be fun. You seem like a great person Amy and you enjoy that Air-Way, and best wishes with whatever washer pair you choose in the future! Scott"
Scott, I enjoy reading your contributions on THS.
Also THS is a good recruiting ground for the true appliance lovers on this site. If it wasnt for people like you and Unimatic and others posting on THS I would of never found this place and I cant imagine getting online now with out going straight to classic appliances. I have learnt and discovered so many new things.
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Post# 6891-10/14/2001-06:18 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
email ettiquette?
MESSAGE: What do people think about giving dummy addresses on places like THS?
I really dont like giving my email address out to too many people, and I have good reason too as well. No matter how careful you are some freaky person seems to find your address.
BTW My email address on my profile here is real! But at the end of the day if I want an answer to a question the forum answers it. I dont want emails from strange ravers like Corvette. Sorry if that sounds harsh but the last thing I need is an argument with someone in another country I have never met before.
What is your opinion?
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Post# 6892-10/14/2001-07:20 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: A great Saturday (foundation)
MESSAGE: I'm not really sure about building a foundation for it because it's a trailer house sitting on cement blocks (couldn't afford a real house). I have some small cement blocks to sit the washer on if the vibration's bad. I dunno. I'll have to try it.
My Whirlpool TL seems to balance really well if I let it neutral drain. If I force it to spin/drain it shakes more.
"They don't calls it shakin' da trailer fer nuttin'"
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Post# 6893-10/14/2001-07:21 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? (videos)
MESSAGE: I wanna see some videos.
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Post# 6894-10/14/2001-09:28 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Detergent Specials (sample sites)
MESSAGE: My sister was really into this for a while and would check her sample sites every day. She ended up with some neat things, some were better than others, but it was all free.
startsampling.com
freesamples.com
sampleville.com
One of these is a message board format that other "samplers" comb the web for free stuff and post where to find it on the board. There was a bit of a scandal once about some coffee mugs that were being given away that turned out to be a rebate for purchase of some kind of liquor. You entered some number "above xxxxx" and your name and address to get the mugs sent out. Once the real purchasers started trying to claim their mugs with their secret numbers, the company found out all the mugs had been sent to people from this message board who were "pirates" and there were no mugs left for the intended customers.
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Post# 6895-10/14/2001-10:26 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: A great Saturday (foundation)
MESSAGE: Jason, You can crawl unber the trailer if it is high enough off the ground and add floor joists made from 2X4's to the area where the washer sits. Nail them in real good and then inside cut a piece of 3/4 inch plywood to fit the area for the washer and dryer. Slide it in place and use 2 1/2 or 3 inch speed screws to secure the plywood. Make sure you get the screws into the new floor joists. That should take care of most of the vibration problem.
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Post# 6896-10/14/2001-10:30 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: More Duet stuff (Domestic Combination Washer-Dryer)
MESSAGE: Darryll, no time, just trying for under 3 hrs, but with a 75 minute wash cycle, you are already looking at a long cycle. Of course you have to alter your routine with a combo. They were billed as the machines that would make washday disappear. What that meant was that you had to do wash every day and that was the way to use a combo, put in a load and leave (not that I did). I think WP might be ahead of the game on this one since they have the machine in Europe; haven't heard about any others here. BW, TT
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Post# 6897-10/14/2001-10:34 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: email ettiquette?
MESSAGE: Couldn't you use one of you aliases?
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Post# 6898-10/14/2001-11:21 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: email ettiquette?
MESSAGE: My solution was to create a second email box, spambdamn@excite.com, just for posting in open forums like THS. It's a bit of a hassle because I have to sign in/out of my other, earlier email inbox to get to my spambdamn address. And, as it turns out, I get far more spam on my earlier address than on the spambdamn one. Go figure ;-).
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Post# 6899-10/14/2001-11:27 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: A great Saturday (foundation)
MESSAGE: Or,
"If the trailer's rockin', then Jason is having another close encounter with a vintage washer."
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Post# 6900-10/14/2001-11:32 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
We're havin' a heat wave, a tropical heat wave...
MESSAGE: Well, maybe a sub-tropical heat wave. The SF Bay area is currently enjoying temps up into the 90's (it's a nice 70 degrees in the shade at 9:30 am this morning) this weekend. Some friends and I had a discussion of whether or not this is a real "indian summer". All I know is it's great weather to drag the filter-flo out of the carport, hose it down (it's been sitting there gathering dust since February), hook it up to the garden hose, add some laundry and HE detergent (to mask any suds), let 'er rip, and take some photos. If I'm lucky I'll be able to locate the mini-basket and do a load with that for the first time ever.
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Post# 6901-10/14/2001-13:15 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT:
RE: Chat Room Tropical Bloom
MESSAGE: I see we do laundry alot alike. I use tropical bloom and good ol april fresh depending on what im washing. My b/f loves it when I wash his robe and use the tropical bloom.
SD
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Post# 6902-10/14/2001-14:20 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: We're havin' a heat wave, a tropical heat wave... (A Chill in South Texas)
MESSAGE: A bit of a front blew threw here. The low last night was 52°, but it's 84° now.
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Post# 6903-10/14/2001-14:26 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Chat Room Tropical Bloom
MESSAGE: I have a bottle of Downy Tropical Bloom. Used it on a load of sheets last night, but something about the fabric doesn't retain the scent. A towel in the load did smell nicely.
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Post# 6904-10/14/2001-15:11 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? ('78 Filter-Flo Follies)
MESSAGE: OK, it's coming... ! Hooked up the GE to the garden hose in the courtyard, by some trees and shrubbery and stuff. Got a few rolls of film of stills and action shots of the washer, filter, fabric softener dispenser, and the famous minibasket, shining in the morning sun. Now I just have to find Uni's message #5528 to see what all I need to upload. I have a scanner, so I can transfer the photos from paper to computer. Don't have a video digitizer, and my video camera is analog only. Although, there really isn't much to watch with the Filter-flo, as all you can usually see is the water, lint, and suds knocking about the filter. However, this was the first time I've ever used the mini-basket. I have to say, it's an ingenious gadget. It sits snugly over the big agitator, and it has little agitator fins of its own inside that are formed around the "mother ship". The filter basket fits snugly into the mini-basket, and there are drain holes just under it. In action, the washer does a low water fill, perhaps to hand-washable level or lower, and then the pump fills the minibasket with water. The excess overflows into the mother ship basket and keeps the pump going. The one drawback: the smaller diameter of the minibasket means that the extraction will be not as good as that of the main basket, which isn't particularly good to begin with. However the mini-basket has the advantage of being a real solid tub, so that during the spins, any floating debris should be lifted out and over the edge, to be caught by the filter.
Anyway, it will be a few days before I get the photos developed and scanned, but they should be good, what with the sunlight glinting off the filter stream.
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Post# 6905-10/14/2001-16:09 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? ('78 Filter-Flo Follies)
MESSAGE: A constant overflow wash in the mini-basket should give some nice results, especially for those delicate lace collars, gloves and hankies. Silky panties, garters and like will also come out cleaner than washing by hand. I wouldn't be too concerned about the extraction, fine washables shouldn't be spun too fast anyway!
Can't wait to see the pictures - did you happen to get one of the mini-basket at the start of the spin to see the water being thrown out? Should have been a great show. I've only ever used one of these once at a neighbors many years ago and I wasn't allowed to have the lid open for spinning.
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Post# 6906-10/14/2001-16:26 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? (mini-basket)
MESSAGE: I seem to remember something from our V-12 that said to only use the normal speed with the mini basket for proper extraction.
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Post# 6907-10/14/2001-16:35 ||| Lenny (Northeastern Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT:
Amana Front Loader
MESSAGE: Hi! Iv'e been thinking about the Amana Front-Loader...Yes, I said Front-Loader! I know it was only for a split-second, but Amana did market a very nice looking front loader around 1998 or 99. At the time, I had the exact looking Amana top-loader. Their front loader looked exactly like my top loader albeit a round windowed door on the front.
I actually saw one of these at Sears which had them on the sales floor for a very short time before they pulled them. The sales people were very 'hush' about why they were pulled. I did hear that Amana pulled them due to 'sudsing/leaking and or durability problems. Does anyone have any insight on this? Amana would have been a nice addition to the f/l arsenal!
Lenny
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Post# 6908-10/14/2001-16:41 ||| Lenny (Northeastern Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Chat Room Tropical Bloom (Late Nite Laundry)
MESSAGE: I really dont know why exactly, but when I dont have to get up super early the next day, I enjoy running a few loads of laundry late at night. Theres something very asthetic about the droans of both the washer and dryer working in unison 'processing' laundry - dont you agree? The soft, fresh smell of the fabric softener is very soothing - like aromatherapy! What happens is I run out of laundry and Im forced to shut the machines down - Its sort of dissapointing! LOLOLOL
Lenny
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Post# 6909-10/14/2001-17:47 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Amana Front Loader
MESSAGE: Hi Lenny, Steve 1-18 has photos of one. The door seal was the problem, they leaked. A model is put out now based on that design by Hubesch available here in Canada, complete with internal heater!
Eddy
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Post# 6910-10/14/2001-18:29 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? ('78 Filter-Flo Follies)
MESSAGE: Sounds groovy - I have now realized how much I miss my filter flo and mini basket...........................
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Post# 6911-10/14/2001-18:31 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? (mini-basket)
MESSAGE: Not sure about that on mine - - but I remember that the instructions said to only use the "mini wash" cycle for the mini basket..............
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Post# 6912-10/14/2001-18:36 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Amana Front Loader
MESSAGE: I have been thinking about the same thing - I also remember that the Amana website touted the front loader as their big achievement and it was supposed to hold the equivalent of 22 lbs of laundry. It was out briefly and pulled suddenly - I remember because when my "ex" set up his winter residence in Ft. Lauderdale, he asked my advice (naturally) and I told him to look for the Amana, since I thought it might be better overall quality than the Frigidaire - based on the quality of the existing top loaders at the time. As he reported then, sales people at both Sears and Best Buy were very vague as to why the machines were pulled, providing useless comments about a design flaw. For whatever that was worth................
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Post# 6913-10/14/2001-18:42 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Chat Room Tropical Bloom (Late Nite Laundry)
MESSAGE: I do the exact same thing - except minus the fabric softener. Sorry, I like a firmer wash!!! But I make sure I never run out of clothes. Hell, if there is nothing to wash - I will find something!!!!!!!!!!!!
And, you're right, there is something very calming about washing late at night - especially in the summer when I can sit on the front porch late and listen to the night sounds and the soft hum of my Amana - - very reassuring. I also will sometimes wake up at 4:00 am or so(no idea why - well, actually I do, but that's not for discussion here- - see previous posts on THAT topic - under "dating the filter flo"). The point is that it is also very soothing to be up at 4:00am having a quiet cup of coffee, with the radio or TV on low and washing away - with dim lights on only of course. Note that I only do this on weekends - I would be dead by 2:00pm if I did this on weekdays. How can anyone with a heart of soul not enjoy doing laundry??????????????
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Post# 6914-10/14/2001-18:57 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: email ettiquette?
MESSAGE: I do. I dont often contribute to THS as I dont know about the machines that are often talked about, but I do find our many things.
I have four email anddresses and they are just choking in spam except for one that only a few personal friends have.
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Post# 6915-10/14/2001-19:01 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Amana Front Loader
MESSAGE: I remember seeing that too on the Amana web site and I thought what a fantastic looking machine.
I thought hopefully it might make it to Asutralia as a Kleenmaid machine. Oh Well.
Did you know the Maytag Neptune Sells in Austr for $2600? I have some friends who bought one and had a good check of it out. I think the lack of a window is a real drawback. Other than that it seems a nice machine.
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Post# 6916-10/14/2001-19:01 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? ('78 Filter-Flo Follies)
MESSAGE: Woo Hoo!
Im so excited! And I just cant hide it. Im about to filter flo and I think I like it!
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Post# 6917-10/14/2001-19:04 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT:
RE: Amana Front Loader
MESSAGE: The door seal was not the only problem. It was my understanding from one of their reps that aside from the boot they had some problems with the suspention not holding up under stress. They never re-relesed it under the amana name because of something to do with alliance laundry systems now making their washers instead of whom ever actually holds the rights to the f/l. The whole thing never did make any sense but neither does alot of things amana does.................
SD
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Post# 6918-10/14/2001-19:40 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Chat Room Tropical Bloom (late nite laundry)
MESSAGE: I love doing that. When I'm tired and ready to go to bed, I load Whirly and start him up. I'm sleeping by the time final spin finishes. In fact, the sudden stop and the lack of the vibration wakes me back up sometimes. The hum of the 70s GE dryer is also very comforting. That makes me go to sleep even better than the washer.
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Post# 6919-10/14/2001-19:46 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Amana Front Loader (Amana/Huebsch/Speed Queen/Whatever)
MESSAGE: Do the Huebsch front loaders have the same problems or did they fix them? The real deal smasher for me over the Frigmore is the door swings right instead of left.
BTW, I found a new Sears in New Orleans East and checked the Frigmores. They had a 40042 (top control) and a 41042 (front control). I have yet to see a 41142. What's the difference betweeen the 41042 and 41142? They also had a HE3t in bisque. I also saw an interesting Maytag Atlantis with a clear plastic cover. SWEET!
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Post# 6920-10/14/2001-19:52 ||| Lenny (Northeastern Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT:
Little Orphan Amana
MESSAGE: Thanks for all the insight on the Amana mysterious f/l. Yes, I also heard that there was both a leakage problem and a 'durability' problem that would go hand in hand with a suspension malfunction. Too bad, because with some reconfigurations Amana would have had a nice machine to add to their line up. Amana seems to be quite a 'strange' company coming originally from the 'Amana Colonies' of Iowa and all. When I had my Amana t/l it was made by Raytheon (Speed Queen). Now I hear its bought out by Maytag. Who was the parent to Amana during their f/l debut/situation? Was there yet ANOTHER owner between Raytheon and Maytag??? Confusing!!!
Lenny
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Post# 6921-10/14/2001-19:58 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Chat Room Tropical Bloom (Running out of stuff to wash (HORRORS!))
MESSAGE: Lenny, that's why you always should use cloth cleaning cloths and have lots of throw rugs. Whenever I do a load or two of clothes and have nice sudsy water ready to drain from a machine, I arrange to do the weekly cleaning cloths or some of the throw rugs. The water is already drawn, so I just drain it into another machine, add a bit of detergent and do the fun load.
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Post# 6922-10/14/2001-20:02 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Amana Front Loader
MESSAGE: The difference in the tubs of the Neppie and the Duet is quite something. The Neppie uses satin finish stainless and has these little oval holes. The Duet is brightly polished stainless with lots and lots of little round holes.
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Post# 6923-10/14/2001-20:06 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Amana Front Loader
MESSAGE: Had a chance to view the Amana unit taken apart. It seemed like a very nice machine from a user standpoint. Appeared to be durably constructed. Had a stainless-steel outer drum as well. Very easy to use and understand controls. A lot like the Frigidaire.....conventional rotary knobs etc. Got a copy of the sales brochure, use & care guide and video tape. Actually think the unit came out late '97. Sears did have them a short time @ $999. As mentioned they were ultimately recalled and scrapped out......with no known 'real' explanation as to what the whole problem was. Interesting tidbit....the blond actress in the Amana video for this machine, is now the same gal that now gives the 'spiel' in the Maytag Neptune 5500B & 7500 series machine. Just a little different hairstyle. Must be an Iowan.
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Post# 6924-10/14/2001-20:45 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? ('78 Filter-Flo Follies)
MESSAGE: Why, come to mention it, I did get a shot of the minibasket spin, with the water streaming out the sides. However, it's only about an inch or two of room between the mini-basket and the overhang, so I'm not sure anything will show up in the photos. I did get some nice shots of the drain hose spouting sudsy froth against the trunk of a nearby tree as the GE started its first spin after the wash cycle. I'm sure if Jason were here, he'd want to be the tree. LOL. And the Sears HE liquid is biodegradable and phosphate-free, just in case Louis is worrying :-).
Sorry, don't have any silky undies or lace or garters in the house. I did a very small load of about four cotton crew socks and a couple of y-front briefs.
After the washer action, I fixed up the truck a little. It's basically a filthy beast, but in the course of fixing a broken driver side interior door handle spring, I gave the plastic inner door panels a good scrubbing with TSP and Soft Scrub. Also gave the same treatment to the padded glove box cover. Now it looks like a replacement part, next to the rest of the padded dash! Eventually I'll be able to take the rest of the dash pad off and give it the same treatment.
Due to lighting considerations I took a number of shots from various angles. These gave a better idea of the filter-flo action, and of course, the tree trunk sudsing.
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Post# 6925-10/14/2001-20:46 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? ('78 Filter-Flo Follies)
MESSAGE: Yeah, I was actually planning on donating the filter-flo to a charity. Now I think I'll keep it. The start of my vintage washer collection!
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Post# 6926-10/14/2001-20:48 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
Coin operated Frigmore
MESSAGE: I was looking at Wascomat's site and found this. Coin op Frigmores! YAY to the laundromats that install these.
LINK: http://www.wascomat.com/we16.html
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Post# 6927-10/14/2001-20:49 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Chat Room Tropical Bloom (Running out of stuff to wash (HORRORS!))
MESSAGE: I believe that cloth cleaning cloths, such as dish cloths and such, are far more sanitary than sponges. Sponges really can't be washed or sanitized (except perhaps by boiling). Cleaning cloths give up all their nasties (well, 99.9%) with a regular hot wash.
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Post# 6928-10/14/2001-20:51 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Amana Front Loader
MESSAGE: The HE3t drum sure does look more "euro" than the Neptune drum. I believe I did a magnet test on the Frigmore drum a while back. It was magnetic, indicating perhaps a lower grade of stainless. The Neptune drum is non-magnetic. Haven't checked the He3t/duet drum yet. In any case, the all seem to do the job just fine.
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Post# 6929-10/14/2001-20:58 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Just love that westy!)
MESSAGE: No arrrooohhh I didn't buy any of those machines, I'm getting really picky in my old age.
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Post# 6930-10/14/2001-21:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? ('78 Filter-Flo Follies)
MESSAGE: Hi Rich, that sounds great, thanks for taking taking the time to do this for the club. For the museum, make sure you get a good shot of the entire machine, a clear shot of it's interior and a clear shot of the controls. Other pictures can be uploaded for the club to enjoy as extras too. You can post them to Yahoo Photos. If you need a hand getting started with Yahoo Photos, just yell, many of use have been posting our pictures there.
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Post# 6931-10/14/2001-21:38 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? ('78 Filter-Flo Follies)
MESSAGE: Thanks. I think I have all the shots you require. I also have a Yahoo photo area all set up. One of these days I'm going to upload the rest of that '59 Frigidaire "Queen in the Kitchen" sales brochure...
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Post# 6932-10/14/2001-21:44 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Amana Front Loader (Amana/Huebsch/Speed Queen/Whatever)
MESSAGE: Isn't the door on the Frigmore reversible????????
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Post# 6933-10/14/2001-21:46 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Little Orphan Amana
MESSAGE: Yes there was another owner between Raytheon and MAytag, but I cannot remember - some conglomerate. But it was only a year or two............
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Post# 6934-10/14/2001-21:49 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Does anyone notice anything strange about the picture in my wallpaper? ('78 Filter-Flo Follies)
MESSAGE: KEEP IT!! That is part of another era and in this time of plastic GE's we must preserve the old technology where possible.
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Post# 6935-10/14/2001-21:50 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Coin operated Frigmore
MESSAGE: Any idea where they are in use?????????
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Post# 6936-10/14/2001-22:11 ||| jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Westy left behind??>?)
MESSAGE: I can't believe you left that beatuiful westy behind! It is almost a solid basket machine-if you look fast enough!
I must say I like the look of that black on grey Maytag wringer/wrencher.
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Post# 6937-10/14/2001-22:21 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Amana Front Loader (nope)
MESSAGE: It sure ain't
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Post# 6938-10/14/2001-22:41 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Coin operated Frigmore
MESSAGE: There's a laundromat near me that has them. Never tried one, should take a load over there someday and give them a whirl.
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Post# 6939-10/14/2001-22:47 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Coin operated Frigmore
MESSAGE: I'm still on the lookout for a 'mat with the Neppies. Found one in Newton, IA, but that's a 2 1/2 hour drive away - bit far to zip over for a load.
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Post# 6940-10/14/2001-22:54 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
Hangin' in the chat room
MESSAGE: I'll be hanging around in the dado chat room for a bit...
here's the url in case anyone's forgotten it...
LINK: http://users.wcnet.net/dadoes/appchat.html
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Post# 6941-10/14/2001-22:56 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Hangin' in the chat room
MESSAGE: Actually, my '78 GE is the one hanging in the chat room. Her handle is... Flo, of course... I'm sure she has a lot to discuss...
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Post# 6942-10/14/2001-23:12 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT:
RE: Amana Front Loader (Amana/Huebsch/Speed Queen/Whatever)
MESSAGE: I would think they did fix them but I cant be for sure.
SD
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Post# 6943-10/14/2001-23:16 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT:
RE: Little Orphan Amana
MESSAGE: Goodman was the company that had amana between raytheon and maytag. But all goodman wanted was there heating and cooling. I believe the f/l episode took place during the transition from raytheon and goodman.
SD
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Post# 6944-10/15/2001-02:10 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Westy left behind??>?)
MESSAGE: I am with you Jetcone.
I just know that beautiful westy is going to go to the krusher. its like thinking about that stray puppy going to the pound that you know will be put down. I wont be able to sleep tonight.
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Post# 6945-10/15/2001-06:00 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Coin operated Frigmore
MESSAGE: You could pack a lunch and make a day of it - sort of like a field trip................
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Post# 6946-10/15/2001-07:24 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Amana Front Loader
MESSAGE: A friend of ours in Cleveland had the machine and John got to see it perform. Thought it worked well. It did share the troublesome leak previously mentioned, but there was some other problem, too. It went back, lost to the ages. Tom
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Post# 6947-10/15/2001-07:27 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Amana Front Loader
MESSAGE: Some women among our customers have noticed that when taking clothes out of the Neppie, the oval holes snag fingernails and break them. It is not as likely with the smooth round holes of other tubs. TT
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Post# 6948-10/15/2001-07:31 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Coin operated Frigmore (Coin Neppie)
MESSAGE: If you ever get here, the one in our shopping center has them. We can give you some cleaning rags to take to it. Or a throw rug and watch the owner block the opening with his body to prevent his wonderful machine from being ruined. TT
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Post# 6949-10/15/2001-08:03 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Coin operated Frigmore (Coin Neppie)
MESSAGE: From being ruined? I've wondered about all the discussion regarding being able to wedge a king size comforter into their newly purchased f/l washer (I've heard some people use their feet to make this work) and how hard it must be for the machine to handle this kind of washing. Once the poly-filled comforter is wet, it would settle down some, but still weigh quite a bit. If they have down comforters, this brings a whole new challenge for the machine. Down & feathers tend to repel water and can take some time to be saturated. When I do mine in a triple-load Wascomat it tends to float for the entire pre-wash so I have to advance the timer to spin after that to get rid of the trapped air. Then being fussy about the rinsing (usually six does it nicely - also some timer play here) and then drying, it's quite an involved process and I'm glad I have access to the OPL Wasco set to get it done easier. I've also done all my feather and down pillows that my grandmother made by hand many years ago and they are all like new again - gotta love that chemical injection system on the Wasco, the alkali "bleach" works wonders.
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Post# 6950-10/15/2001-09:07 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Coin operated Frigmore (wha chew talkin' bout?)
MESSAGE: Greg, what is all this OPL Wascomat stuff? Is this a machine you have? Have we seen pics? I don't remember. What I said about the Neppie being ruined was in relation to a throw rug in it. Unlike the other large FLs at a coin-op, the Neppie is "suspended," precariously, I might add and a rug might do it in. TT
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Post# 6951-10/15/2001-09:16 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
POD - Bolt Down Kenmore
MESSAGE: Robert (or anyone else who might have the POD bolt down KM),
Does/did your machine have this 6 vane Duralite agitator?
-ph
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Post# 6952-10/15/2001-11:45 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Coin operated Frigmore (Coin Neppie)
MESSAGE: I wash throw rugs in the Neptune all the time. I even successfully washed a 5'x7' area rug in mine. Carefully folded, of course. Got it real clean, too. The only problem I had was when I tried to wash car floor mats. These had hard plastic backings that roached the gasket. Maytag fixed it for free.
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Post# 6953-10/15/2001-11:48 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Coin operated Frigmore (wha chew talkin' bout?)
MESSAGE: By "suspended", do you mean that it isn't a bolt-down design?
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Post# 6954-10/15/2001-12:13 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Amana Front Loader (the SQ)
MESSAGE: Here's the current SQ OPL model...
LINK: http://www.speedqueen.com/opl/products/prod_home_line.htm#rearcontrol
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Post# 6955-10/15/2001-12:25 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD - Bolt Down Kenmore
MESSAGE: No Peter, I've only seen this machine come with the Straight-Vane Agitator.
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Post# 6956-10/15/2001-16:26 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Coin operated Frigmore (wha chew talkin' bout?)
MESSAGE: You got it.
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Post# 6957-10/15/2001-16:32 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Amana Front Loader (the SQ)
MESSAGE: Thanks, Peter, that was interesting. I think of you every time I use my Journal measuring cup to measure up 1/4 cup of generic Calgon. Thanks for that too. Tom
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Post# 6958-10/15/2001-16:38 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Coin operated Frigmore (wha chew talkin' bout?)
MESSAGE: Last January, one of my daily commercial accounts (a country club) bought a Wascomat triple load washer and dryer. It will do 35lb load, I've given it some real challenges and it always does very well. Now that golf (and towel) season is winding down, I have access to it all day on Mondays as the club is closed so I drag all sorts of large items out there to be washed. The Wasco is a tremendous piece of machinery, but I would like some modifications to the cycle sequences. I would add a short spin after the pre-wash and main wash cycle before the first rinse, but this would increase water consumption. It's a bolt down unit, so the spin speed is only about 500 rpm, producing about 90 g's. If you are washing a full load of towels, the spin results are OK, but with only a couple of throw rugs or car floor mats, it's capability is lessened considerably.
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Post# 6959-10/15/2001-17:16 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
POD Sudz Save
MESSAGE: Does the POD machine have a built in sudz save tank, the machine looks bigger at the back....
or does it use the sinks at the side?????
Do any of the sudz save machines use a built in tank???
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 6960-10/15/2001-17:23 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Duet training (Questions!!!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Tom
Glad you enjoyed the training, justa couple of questions, what is the outer tank made, s/steel (Bauchnecht) or polypropelene (Whirlpool)??
If polypropelene, is the outer tank in two parts clipped together in the middle??
What are the weights made of Cast Iron or concrete, and are they on top of the tub or around the front??
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Post# 6961-10/15/2001-18:50 ||| nmaineman36 (Portland Maine)
SUBJECT:
RE: Chat Room Tropical Bloom (Surf Tablets)
MESSAGE: Oh when I read this post I had to laugh..was too cute! I finally found the Surf Tablets that I called Unilever about 2 weeks ago and found them at the new Target in South Portland. yu should be able to find them at the new Targets that they opened in CT. I did get a coupon in the mail today for my whining at Unilever for a free box of Surf...how nice!When I saw the Tablets at Target my nipples went erect when I saw them. I love having this detergent fetish its so much fun! They are HE compatible and when I used them in the Frigidaire there was little to no suds. And there was little scent too. I would love to try the UK version to see of that would make a difference since they have better scents according to the website that they have for it.
Now getting back to the 4 am thing..how many of us that have a partner have been woken up something sticking in your back or have the cat wave her tail in my face to wake up and act all innocent-like ...the who me? thing. Life is good!
Mike
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Post# 6962-10/15/2001-18:56 ||| nmaineman36 (Portland Maine)
SUBJECT:
RE: Amana Front Loader (GE washer and dryer)
MESSAGE: I dont know if anyone else has seen them but GE is now marketing Amana built washers and dryers under the GE name. They are the same as Amana except that the control panels looks like a GE line washer and dryer. The insides are the same stainless steel washbasket and drum. I wonder if they are going to do away with thier line and go with the Amana built ones since they are more reliable than the crrrraaaaapppp that GE is now building here in the US. The Canadian built ones dont seem to be effected at least thats what I heard.
Mike
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Post# 6963-10/15/2001-19:01 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Sudz Save
MESSAGE: Hi Mike;
The Kenmore, Whirlpool, use a sink or laundry tub to store wash water. It has two drain hoses one with a long neck to reach the bottom of the tub for wash water (sudsy water) and a regular one for draining the rinse water. All the wash water is always drained thru the suds hose if you want to save the water you must place a stopper in the tub drain so it will fill up when the washer releases the suds water. It is held there until the washer is restarted in the SUDS marking on the timer in which the machine will draw the suds water back into the machine leaving one inch in the bottom of the tub/sink where the heavy soil has settled to the bottom of the sink/tub. Once all the water is back in the washer it will advance into the wash cycle and will begin to fill to the proper level if it was not reached with the suds return water. The tub/sink must be large enough to handle the full washer load of water. I'm not sure but I think once the machine advances from the neutral drain to spin it will switch to the draining thru the rinse drain hose. I hope this is helpful to you!
"Brooklyn Robert"
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Post# 6964-10/15/2001-19:07 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
The General Electric Wing
MESSAGE: I have opened the General Electric wing of the Cyber-Museum.
I've posted a few videos with more to come in the next few days, I want to stagger them as to not cause to much of a load on our server, with everyone wanting to download them. One thing to note, the videos only seem to work with Internet Explorer. I believe this is due to the fact that I created them with Microsoft Windows Media Encoder. If you are using Netscape you probably will not be able to view these videos, but you can easily download Internet Explorer for free at www.microsoft.com.
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Post# 6965-10/15/2001-19:49 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: The General Electric Wing (WOW!!!!)
MESSAGE: Great collection of pics and videos. May I give a request? Can we have a spin video? I'd like to see it start spin draining and accelerate all the way.
My GE dryer is from the 70s. If you'd like pics and a video of it in action, I'll be more than happy to upload them.
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Post# 6966-10/15/2001-20:04 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Chat Room Tropical Bloom (Surf Tablets)
MESSAGE: If something woke me up at 4am it would find itself in the middle of the front yard.
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Post# 6967-10/15/2001-20:29 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Sudz Save
MESSAGE: Mike,the first GE and some of the Frigidaires could save water internally. The GE could save the rinse water for a prewash for the next load and the Frigidaires could save wash water inside the cabinet, but it was not an automatic operation; the user had to assist. TT
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Post# 6968-10/15/2001-20:33 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Duet training (Questions!!!!)
MESSAGE: Mike, the outer tub is plastic, held together by clips in the middle and has concrete weights around the front edge and on the rear top edge. When we had the outer tub apart, I stood the basket on its front with the shaft sticking up in the air. Then we lowered the back half of the outer tub onto the shaft and spun it around on the bearing like an amusement park ride. Tom
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Post# 6969-10/15/2001-20:49 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Chat Room Tropical Bloom (Surf Tablets)
MESSAGE: Mike - loved your message, but a question... you mentioned the UK version and the website..... the UK version of what ??? Sorry, but I am a little confused.....besides it sounds like you have some inside detergent information I am missing.........
BTW - my 4:00 am escapades occur alone.................
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Post# 6970-10/15/2001-20:52 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Amana Front Loader (GE washer and dryer)
MESSAGE: Well - how about this !!! You know I noticed in my local appliance emporium that some of the lower end GE dryers were dead ringers for Frigidaires... of course had the GE control panel, but you could tell by the door......... So perhaps GE is getting rid of their laundry after all........ Hate to say it, but based on what they are doing in the US, it's time. Except for the front loader that is made by Frigidaire for GE....
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Post# 6971-10/15/2001-21:42 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
GE Laundry
MESSAGE: Found this
LINK: http://news.excite.ca/news/bw/010813/ky-ge-appliances
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Post# 6972-10/15/2001-22:02 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Duet training (Amusement Park)
MESSAGE: There's an old ride called the "Rotor". Basically it was a human washing machine. You stood inside of a spinning basket while the g's push you into the wall. Some version of this ride tilt up while you stay stuck to the wall. I got an incredibly long spin on the Rotor at Conneaut Lake Park, PA. It was fun.
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Post# 6973-10/15/2001-00:20 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: The General Electric Wing
MESSAGE: Beautiful - love the videos, my sound card isn't working properly and I can't hear them!
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Post# 6974-10/15/2001-01:58 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: (Thanx)
MESSAGE: The General Electric wing is great! Thanx heaps.
I love the video's and looking forward to more.
Cant get over that WEERD model with a sink on top.
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Post# 6975-10/16/2001-02:05 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Amana Front Loader (Cool!)
MESSAGE: I like the sound of that. I quite like the external appearance of the GE's especially the prodigy model. What is the agitator like in the amana/GE machine. Amana seems to be the only make that doesnt have to two peice spiral agitator, I love the wavy vanes.
Hope they put them on a ship to Australia real soon. GE used to be very popular here but now the model on our market ( one sole model, with 5 knobs) is too overprised for what appears to be a flimsy machine. Whirlpool gets sales because it looks and feels more solid but this GE looks so plasticy inside and when Hoover Simpson and F&P all over stainless steel tubs, its not a good selling feature.
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Post# 6976-10/16/2001-03:00 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Sudz Save
MESSAGE: Morning Robert
Thanks for the info on the sudz save, with all the eco measures about do most of the new machine offer this feature??
Enjoyed the pics of your machines in the Whirly Wing, does your 1983 LA9800 have the sudz save??
How are thing at work, is it still hectic or getting back to an easier pace...
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 6977-10/16/2001-03:04 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Duet training (Questions!!!!)
MESSAGE: Morning Tom
Just noticed the time you posted last night, and from the comfort of home as well, hows it going, had the computer all apart yet??
Does the Whirly have the suspension legs on a seperate rigid base or are they attched to the outer cabinet base??
Mike
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Post# 6978-10/16/2001-03:09 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Amana Front Loader (Best Seller)
MESSAGE: Hi Arrrooohhh
Which is the best seller over with you , is it Hoover by any chance,
With your weather being so good do you line dry or do people still use dryers most of the time??
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 6979-10/16/2001-03:12 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: The General Electric Wing
MESSAGE: Morning Robert
Another fab wing to walk through, thanks for the effort involved.....
Better get my butt into gear, gotta find at least one vintage Servis machine for the wing!!!!
Mike
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Post# 6980-10/16/2001-05:49 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Amana Front Loader (GE washer and dryer)
MESSAGE: GE has been buying their standard capacity dryers from Frigidaire for a few years now.
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Post# 6981-10/16/2001-05:53 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Duet training (Amusement Park)
MESSAGE: Did ya throw up afterwards? I always liked the rides where you sat in a little round thing with a big wheel in the middle, almost like a circular booth in a restaurant. The round things were on arms and rotated around the center of the ride, but you could turn the wheel and make your round thing spin. I think it is what KitchenAid calls planetary action in their mixers. To me it was like a washing machine.
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Post# 6982-10/16/2001-06:00 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Duet training (Questions!!!!)
MESSAGE: Mike, Sorry, but what Whirly rigid suspension legs are you referring to? Love the computer at home. Used it Sunday to plan a trip on a steam locomotive when a hot little locomotive comes down from Boston next month.
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Post# 6983-10/16/2001-06:59 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: The General Electric Wing
MESSAGE: I'm counting on you for that Mike, I doubt I'll be finding any vintage Servis machines during Estate Sale Saturday.
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Post# 6984-10/16/2001-07:27 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Amana Front Loader (GE washer and dryer)
MESSAGE: I'm not too impressed with what GE does in Europe either. Creda is their main brand overhere and I guess they must have withdrawn it from the dutch market. I also noticed that Creda isn't sold in the US anymore. Poor quality, but Tom might differ with me.
Louis
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Post# 6985-10/16/2001-07:46 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Duet training (Amusement rides)
MESSAGE: No I didn't throw up. I love those kind of rides. You're describing a "Teacups" ride. The ride that reminds me of a washing machine is the Wipeout. It looks and moves like a Calypso agitator. Then at the end, it spins very fast pushing you to the outside of the ride. All they need is a huge fill flume on top of you for the spray rinses. Kenmore should sponsor one of those rides and install one in their sears store. "Ride the Calypso. Experience a whole new way to wash."
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Post# 6986-10/16/2001-08:16 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Amana Front Loader (Creda...She might be cheap, but I got her for free)
MESSAGE: No, Louis, I won't differ. Mine works while the Miele is broken at the moment, but it is not a high quality product. Poor thing, I must admit that there are things I like about her, but might not keep her after I try the Duet. Tom
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Post# 6987-10/16/2001-08:17 ||| jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Coin operated Frigmore (Coin Neppie)
MESSAGE: Greg:
I am in the dark, what is this chemical injection system on the Wascomat? And please enlighten me OPL? "Owners Push Load"??
I checked all my parts machines and they all have the bed of nails filter. Sorry Greg, I was sure I had an extra one for you. Am still looking for my tech talk to get you the part numbers for the lint filter conversion kit. When I did the kitchen over I packed away all my books and now I am digging through new box everynight.
-still trying to please
jet
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Post# 6988-10/16/2001-09:10 ||| daveuk (Livingston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Coin operated Frigmore (Coin Neppie)
MESSAGE: On-Premise Laundry, I assume. This link *should* be about the 'wet cleaning' system, which injects chemicals...
Dave
LINK: http://www.wetclean.com
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Post# 6989-10/16/2001-09:19 ||| daveuk (Livingston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Amana Front Loader (GE Europe = GDA (General Domestic Appliances))
MESSAGE: I always thought that Hotpoint was the major GE brand in Europe, or maybe it's just in the UK. Either way both brands are not known for reliability, when I bought my washer a year ago I went to stores pretending to be ignorant, just to see what sort of response I'd get. I think I visited 5 stores in one morning, and all but one told me not to buy Hotpoint Creda or Hoover. I was actually pleasantly surpised by that. The problem is that a lot of people grew up with older Hotpoint machines that lasted a while, and now go on and buy them, and *then* find out about the problems. If more people did their research before buying then I think Hotpoints market share would be a lot lower, but that's a whole other rant :-)
I agree with you Louis, they are very bad quality. Though all Hotpoint dishwashers except the 'first edition' machines are made by Bosch, I really don't like the feel of the control panels though.
Dave
LINK: http://www.gda.uk.com
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Post# 6990-10/16/2001-09:28 ||| daveuk (Livingston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Duet training (Amusement Park)
MESSAGE: Urgh, I went on one of them once, I think I must've had my arm twisted. Didn't like it very much, and regretted it fairly shortly after I got off.
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Post# 6991-10/16/2001-10:45 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: The General Electric Wing
MESSAGE: Wonderful!
Flo can't wait to get into the Museum. I plan on picking up the developed photos today.
Now Flo wants me to wheel her out into the courtyard again this weekend, so I can get some video. I've never seen her happier!
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Post# 6992-10/16/2001-10:53 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: The General Electric Wing
MESSAGE: I'm glad you guys are enjoying the new wing. I have more video's to upload, but I will stagger those over the next couple of weeks.
I'm really looking forward to putting your GE into the museum Rich!
I'm dreading it, but I think its time to start working on the Frigidaire wing. So many of us will have things to enter into that wing. I'll sort of have to do that as a work in progress wing adding bits here and there through time.
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Post# 6993-10/16/2001-10:59 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: The General Electric Wing (New Wing)
MESSAGE: Robert
This new wing is Great
Thanks,
Peter
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Post# 6994-10/16/2001-11:30 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Amana Front Loader (GE washer and dryer)
MESSAGE: Thanks TT - I knew I wasn't losing my mind.....
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Post# 6995-10/16/2001-11:32 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Duet training (Amusement rides)
MESSAGE: You may be onto something there.................
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Post# 6996-10/16/2001-11:41 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Amana Front Loader (GE Europe = GDA (General Domestic Appliances))
MESSAGE: Dave, that is somewhat true here in the US also (except for us of course who research tirelessly). As the quality of formerly trusted brands has deteriorated (most notably GE and Frigidaire top loaders), people continue to buy them because their parents did, etc... Kind of makes me mad - -don't people think or pay attention? Perhaps it is a matter of priorities. Most people don't think of laundry as a fun or important process, so they expend as little effort and attention as possible and just try to get it done. I have often joked that I live in the state where everyone washes in a Maytag standard capacity top loader using some form Tide because their parents did. As an aside, I sometimes think that P&G could put cats' piss in bottles, label it as Tide and people would still faithfully buy the stuff. But I am just being me today.....................
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Post# 6997-10/16/2001-11:42 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: The General Electric Wing
MESSAGE: Beautiful!! I must be in heaven................
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Post# 6998-10/16/2001-12:04 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Amana Front Loader (I agree)
MESSAGE: I agree - I wish people would remember Frigidaire under GM not WCI
Peter
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Post# 6999-10/16/2001-12:18 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Duet training (Suzzys!!!)
MESSAGE: Tom, My terminology..... just gone back to your second post on this item and I think you covered it, missed it....
I meant the suspension legs, Bauchnect used to have them mounted on a rigid metal square base chassis, the outer tub was wrapped around and attached to it......(like ASKO)
Whirlpool always had their suspension legs fitted to the corners of the cabinet & lashed to the cabinet for extra whatever!!!!
Cheers, Mike
p.s. What hot loco is this then, Stephensons Rocket..LOL
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Post# 7000-10/16/2001-12:28 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: The General Electric Wing
MESSAGE: Frigidaire wing sounds cool.
One question - so far all of the museum appliances appear to be laundry equipment. What about other major appliances like ranges, fridges, vacuum cleaners? I've got a vintage Frigidaire electric range that might be of interest... as well as that '59 Frigidaire sales brochure, which would be a great artifact for the wing, don't you think? I've been meaning to scan the rest of it and put it on my Yahoo site for some time now... I guess this is the time!
Also, would you consider starting a "miscellaneous" wing for the oddball, orphan appliance companies that maybe made one or two products? I have an old cast aluminum Invinicble dry shop vac on big wheels that people might be interested in viewing...
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Post# 7001-10/16/2001-12:42 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Amana Front Loader (& Creda)
MESSAGE: Hi Louis
Do you not have Hotpoint over there??, Creda use the cabinets of the previous Hotpoints range, pre Aquarius ranges....
Again Hotpoint used to be number one here for years, Creda always was it cheapers sister.
Saying that my machine pre this Whirly AWM328 1200rpm 5kgload, was a 15yr Hotpoint 9934A washer dryer in Almond, 1000rpm 4.5kg load and it could knock spots off this Whirly in capacity and extraction if the wiring loom hadnt melted...
Cheers, Mike
p.s. the lamp is a standard from Habitat...
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Post# 7002-10/16/2001-12:42 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Duet training (Amusement rides)
MESSAGE: I rode one of those solid tub spinners at Six Flags at Arlington Texas a few years back. I had made the mistake of doing it right after eating. I didn't lose anything but that was the end of my riding for the day. I was so glad when that thing stopped spinning.
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Post# 7003-10/16/2001-13:13 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: The General Electric Wing
MESSAGE: Hi Rich,
I was thinking the museum would be for major appliances-- washers, dryers, dishwashers, ranges, refrigerators that our members have in their own collection. Vacuum cleaners are great fun, and I have many vintage ones myself, but there are lots of other vacuum cyber-clubs for those to be shown and displayed in.
As for the sales brochure you refer to, we have a library for sales borchures but we must be careful with what we post. While its tempting to fill it with lots of goodies, one important aspect to remember is that we don't have unlimited storage space on the server, and this stuff takes up a lot of space, so its important to pick and choose what is most important to us.
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Post# 7004-10/16/2001-13:57 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
Web site update
MESSAGE: I am going to remove the KDS 56A and 65 Kenmore Dryer page from my site and replace it with more exciting stuff so if anyone wants one last look or some picts you should do it now. Once removed from the page they will not be put back up. The pages will be removed no earlier than 5PM EST today.
LINK: http://web.tampabay.rr.com/jasonspages/
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Post# 7005-10/16/2001-15:42 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: The General Electric Wing
MESSAGE: I love it, Robert. This is getting me motivated to start a GE collection! BTW I am in the process of rescuing a 60's Inglis washer destined for the crusher. I just couldn't bear her going there so picked her up for a nominal fee. Needs work done and a good cleaning but she'll be a nice one. Will post pictures when she's done.
Eddy
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Post# 7006-10/16/2001-16:34 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: The General Electric Wing
MESSAGE: Very Nice Eddy! I can't wait to see pictures of a vintage 60's Inglis. It would be interesting to see a vintage Viking (made by GE with mini-basket and all) too!
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Post# 7007-10/16/2001-17:35 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Sudz Save
MESSAGE: Hi Mike;
I'm glad you like the pictures of my washer's. None of my washer's have the suds saver. I wish one did it would be fun to play with sometimes. I've lived here in the city all my life and water or sewers were never a big problem. These machines are more for rural areas or maybe where water supply or sewers might be a problem, I guess. I did get the chance to see one when I was visiting a friends in Buffalo, New York. There was a problem with well water where they live and they even saved the rinse water in different buckets. Looked like a lot of work to me. They had to stay with the washer for the entire cycle. I guess today with space being a problem you would need a laundry tub or sink and that would call for more room. Most people today drain their washers into a pipe rather then a sink and try to mini their laundry area. My washers all drain into a sink, I like to watch the water flow from the hose (lol). Things here are about the same the Army is here with us and is working side by side with the Police Officers inspecting all vehicles go in and out of Manhattan via Bridge or tunnel. There have been some rumors about somthing being done to a brige or tunnel next, who knows. It feels very strange to have army personnel in full uniform coming up to me at 3:00am and wanting to use one of the phones I work with. They even have this tent set up outside the command center where I've been working. I still can't belive this has happened. I never get away from it, I try but it's always in my face. I'm just tired, a lot of long hours, and all bad news. This club is fun so there is some outlet! Anyway have a great night!
"Brooklyn Robert"
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Post# 7008-10/16/2001-17:42 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
Stuff from Maryland
MESSAGE: I went to Maryland last week and as always had a wonderful time thanks to Tom and John.
The Duet training was so much fun. I think Tom and I had the most fun crawling around all over the floor. Brought back memories of school.
Here is the link to some of the stuff that I came back with. There was also a chocolate cake that Tom made but I ate it already.
LINK: http://web.tampabay.rr.com/jasonspages/maryland.html
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Post# 7009-10/16/2001-17:44 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Coin operated Frigmore (chemical injection)
MESSAGE: For "On Premise Laundry" systems, there are a number of different companies that have bottled detergents, bleach and softeners that can be connected to the Wascomat to automatically dispense products into the machine's dispenser system. The first company we tried was way to sudsy and over-scented, but the one there now is just the right balance for the club's needs.
Not to worry about that sub-top, the BON filter on mine is OK, seems solid and not in danger of falling and works as well as any other filter. Now that I have my Westy Laundromat up and running, there's really no need for any other washer! ;-)
I still have the SQ combo service and parts book to copy for you and John L. too, seems time just flys by when you're washing the Westinghouse way!
Hope all is well - Greg
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Post# 7010-10/16/2001-17:54 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Stuff from Maryland
MESSAGE: That 66 set is absolutely beautiful! Gotta love lights!
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Post# 7011-10/16/2001-17:56 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: The General Electric Wing
MESSAGE: Yes, Master.
;-)
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Post# 7012-10/16/2001-18:45 ||| daveuk (Livingston)
SUBJECT:
has it arrived yet?
MESSAGE: I know I'm early... but I'm sure we *all* want to know about your new washer Mike... It is Wednesday isn't it that it's coming? If not I'll feel like an idiot.... oh well...
Dave
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Post# 7013-10/16/2001-20:01 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Amana Front Loader (I agree)
MESSAGE: I will never think of Frigidaire as WCI!!!!! Sorry to any WCI fans out there.........
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Post# 7014-10/16/2001-20:10 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Stuff from Maryland
MESSAGE: That Frigidaire washer and dryer are outstanding - but what color is that???? Toast?? Were these really in that stellar condition - just plug in and go????
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Post# 7015-10/16/2001-20:19 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Stuff from Maryland
MESSAGE: Honey Wheat
No, these were not plug-n-go. They did need some work and still need some parts but they do work for now. The only main problem is a leaky pump.
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Post# 7016-10/16/2001-20:29 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Stuff from Maryland
MESSAGE: Fab-u-lous!
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Post# 7017-10/16/2001-20:29 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Stuff from Maryland
MESSAGE: Is it leaking from the shaft or the housing?
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Post# 7018-10/16/2001-20:34 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
Fancy a chat?
MESSAGE: Chatty Cathy? Chat room is open.....
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Post# 7019-10/16/2001-20:51 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Stuff from Maryland
MESSAGE: They are lovely nonetheless.......................
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Post# 7020-10/16/2001-21:07 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Stuff from Maryland
MESSAGE: Upon further inspection.....both
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Post# 7021-10/16/2001-21:19 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Stuff from Maryland (66 Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Jason - wasen't this set from the museum? I also had wonderful times visiting Maryland.
Peter
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Post# 7022-10/16/2001-21:24 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Stuff from Maryland (66 Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Yup
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Post# 7023-10/16/2001-21:42 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Stuff from Maryland
MESSAGE: Not a hard fix - do you like the washer?
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Post# 7024-10/16/2001-22:09 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Stuff from Maryland
MESSAGE: Congratulatons Jason, you're new Frigidaire Set is just beautiful!
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Post# 7025-10/16/2001-22:29 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Amana Front Loader (DADoES favourote brand best seller)
MESSAGE: Hi ChesterMike!
The best selling brand in Australia is Fisher and Paykel, followed very closely by Simpson, then Hoover. Whirlpool, LG, Samsung, NEC, Maytag take what is left in roughly that order.
Whirlpool is the most popular for front loaders, followed by LG and Bendix (philco made machines) Asko also too is popular and seems to enjoy a much better repuatation than over in europe or the states.
Kleenmaid is popular but you cant just go and buy them in any store. You need to go to a Kleenmaid dealership. Much like a car dearler and with the same high pressure sales tactics too. These guys just dont get the concept of "just looking"
A lot of people have dryers but they are small and often kept in the garage rather than laundry, or wall mounted upside down above a washer. They generally only get used in wet weather.
I worked for a short while in a TAFE library that taught appliance repair and and the library got appliance trade magazines that gave me a lot of information. Haven't read it for a while as I am working elsewhere and I have to drive out to nearly campbelltown to go there.
Whew! What an essay!
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Post# 7026-10/16/2001-00:23 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Amana Front Loader (DADoES favourote brand best seller)
MESSAGE: Are there more top loaders sold than front loaders? I've gotten that impression, but never asked. Do you know what percentages each would be of the washer market? I wish we had more options for the front loading washers than do we. I finally met someone (outside this club) that owns a front load washer last week. They have a Neppie and like it well enough, but complained of twisted laundry - mostly jeans. I was shocked someone I knew actually had one!
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Post# 7027-10/16/2001-01:45 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Amana Front Loader (DADoES favourote brand best seller)
MESSAGE: I think it is about 30/70 split front / top loaders. We have always had them on the market but in the last 10 years they have become much cheaper and now most brands offer a front load model.
I know quite a few people who have front loaders. Still you get the people that complain about stupid things like having to bend over and not being able to put in extra washing.
A friend of Mums only every has had them and swears by them but others comment on how long the cycle times are. When we first went to England and Used my Grandmothers Indesit front loader Mum put the load on cycle no# one which is the 90degree cotton cycle so the mixed load was boiled and all the colours ran and some things shrunk. Mum was less than impressed but I was 11 and just loved being able to watch the load through the window. My Gran had saved brocures for me too from the shops! Grans are great!
Hoover used to manufacture a front loader in Australia and it always sold well but it disappeared when Hoover was savagely taken over by email, then electrolux.
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Post# 7028-10/16/2001-01:52 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Amana Front Loader (Percentages)
MESSAGE: I think F&P has about 30% of the market followed by Simpson with about 25% then Hoover with 20%. Thats for the top load market. Must go and have a look at appliance magazine again and see what the new figures are.
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Post# 7029-10/17/2001-06:31 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
List lovers!
MESSAGE: Anyone who is interested, I have found a list of every machine on sale in Australia and there dubious energry ratings.
Discovered Models too I didnt know were on sale. Such as a range of Kelvinators, which obviously would be rebadged Simpson machines by the model numbers given. I would love to see those though! Would like to see how Electrolux has varied the models. The have done well to Keep Hoover and Simpson with separate identities and even suspensions!
LINK: http://www.worthit.com.au/energylabel/cwashers_srch.asp?sort=%5BNew+SRI%5D+DESC&list=basic&Elec=&HElec=&HUses=&Years=&type=All&capacity=all&brand=All&B1=SEARCH
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Post# 7030-10/17/2001-06:36 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: List lovers!
MESSAGE: Shall be hiting Harvey Norman this weekend to see what I can see! ( and scab brochures )
Also of interest. Kleenmade bought a small boutinqe cooking appliance manufacturer called St George ( so named because they were based in Sydneys St George district in the south ). It appears they are now bading their speed quenn washers as St George/ Kleenmaid.
I suppose that was of no interest to anyone :)
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Post# 7031-10/17/2001-06:47 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Amana Front Loader
MESSAGE: Lenny,
I found a couple of Amana FL's about a year ago. They were in back of a used appliance dealer. I wanted to buy them, but the guy wouldn't budge (a real asshole - there, I said it!)
He did say that they were recalls and theat they didn't belong to him, they belonged to Amana. It looked likre they were pushed off a truck.
Thought they would be neat to have, if for no other reason, historic purposes.
Notice, they had temperature booster on the hot wash. Had both hot and cold water connections. Also ran on 120 V.
Steve 1-18
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/svb14_2000/lst?.dir=/Amana+Front+Loader&.view=t
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Post# 7032-10/17/2001-06:50 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
Tweaking the site
MESSAGE: Robert (Uni) must have done a little tweaking. I noticed when I logged in this morning to post, the posts I had already read were still highlighted as before I logged in.
WHAT A GUY!!! ... or should I say,'yay!'
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Post# 7033-10/17/2001-06:59 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Tweaking the site
MESSAGE: Uh, I wish I could take credit for that, but I haven't done a thing to the core Applianceville code lately.
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Post# 7034-10/17/2001-07:06 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Web site update (KA tall tub dishwasher)
MESSAGE: Jason,
I saw you replaced the KA dishwasher with a whirlpool. What was your opinion of the KA? My brother just moved to Atlanta and has that machine in his new house. I thought I'd heard that it was so frugal with water usage, that it didn't do a good job washing. Also the Kenmore and Whirlpool versions, while not being as 'frugal' washed much better.
My sister-in-law was upset when I memtioned this. I picked on her Bosch, too, so she thought she was moving up with the KA. I told her she should be able to change it out, if she wasn't happy with the performance, but not to wait too long.
I only got to run it (the KA) through a rinse and hold. Initial observations were quiet and good loading flexibility. I asked her why she got black appliances (as opposed to SS) and her response was '$$$$$$$$'!
Steve 1-18
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Post# 7035-10/17/2001-07:14 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Stuff from Maryland
MESSAGE: Jason,
I am so jealous of that Frigidaire Pair. I have the Gas dryer that matches and would love to find a matching washer. (Hint hint any of you out there that has one just sitting in a warehouse getting dusty) Or, let me know when you want to trade them for a while. Maybe we can work out a swap for a 'hostage' pair of kenmores (he! he! PeterH).
Steve 1-18
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Post# 7036-10/17/2001-07:33 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
Special program tonight
MESSAGE: The History Channel is showing a special on the world trade center, tonight at 10 pm ET. This was produced before the tragic events of last month, and it was decided not to edit the original programing. Just thougt it might be worth watching.
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Post# 7037-10/17/2001-08:59 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Sudz Save
MESSAGE: Sudsavers were for more than rural areas. When automatic washers first came out, those who had used wringer washers where a whole series of loads could be washed in the same tub of water that was hotter at first for whites and cooler later for colors were aghast at the amount of hot water needed for a cycle, especially when the rinses were warm. Many people with barely adequate water heaters, or electric water heaters, even those on off-peak timers that only heated at night, used sudsavers. Using a sudsaver fit in with the wringer washer methodology of doing all the wash, load after load in one fairly fast moving operation. My aunt who was used to a wringer and then got a pair of Maytag Highlanders with the sudsaver in 57 did not let the dryer run longer than the washer when we did a huge washing on Thanksgiving Day in 1958. With the anemic gas burner of something like 14K BTUs, loads were hauled out of the dryer and hung on lines in the basement to finish so that she could keep moving stuff through the washer before her wash water cooled too much in the set tub. The warm rinses back then helped keep the wash water temp up by keeping the machine warmer than it would be if cold rinses had been used. TT
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Post# 7038-10/17/2001-09:03 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Coin operated Frigmore (Westinghouse washing)
MESSAGE: No other washer needed except maybe for rinsing and spinning.
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Post# 7039-10/17/2001-09:38 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Web site update (KA tall tub dishwasher)
MESSAGE: Where have you been Steve? That was changed out 5 months ago.
The KA cleaned dishes about as good as a gentle rain on a sunny day. It was fun to play connect the dried on 'clean' food residue with a marker.
From what we learned at the training meeting the Whirlpool versions have the same problem.
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Post# 7040-10/17/2001-09:42 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Stuff from Maryland
MESSAGE: If I so much as thought about getting rid of, trading or loaning that machine there would be hell to pay. And that is an understatement.
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Post# 7041-10/17/2001-09:45 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Stuff from Maryland
MESSAGE: As the Paymaster, I concur with Jason's estimate.
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Post# 7042-10/17/2001-10:25 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE Laundry
MESSAGE: Seems to me they are trying to lure coin-op owners back with a 5 year warrenty. No thanks, I'll nurse my pre-plastic machines until I can't get parts any more!
-ph
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Post# 7043-10/17/2001-10:39 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Stuff from Maryland
MESSAGE: Wow! Them's some good friends up there in DC!!!
-ph
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Post# 7044-10/17/2001-11:10 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Stuff from Maryland (now's the time to make room)
MESSAGE: Wha choo talkin' bout Willis?
I took a personal day from work yesterday.
1) Gave the GE dryer a bearing job. Found it is a 1961 model. Now if I can only get the retaining clips back on the idler wheel and the drum bearing!
2) Connected up the white DCI 1-18. It's a noisy thumper and does not heat, but the florescent light works! Because the dryer doesn't heat, I'm hoping that some repair guy told the original owners that he can't get parts, so they replaced the pair and there is nothing wrong with the WCI washer!
3) Trying to get the white cabinet off a WC-6G to put around the WCI. All cabinet screws but 3 came out. They are currently soaking in some PB.
4) The Maytag A810 is up at the 'mat to be sold. The 1961 GE dryer will be sold as well (they are a dime a dozen), but only after I get another collectable working or I can put the 62 KM dryer back in place...
5) Put Jason's machine more strategically placed to be put on his truck when he comes up.
-ph
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Post# 7045-10/17/2001-11:23 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Stuff from Maryland (now's the time to make room)
MESSAGE: Oh My!! I have to plan that trip too.
Now where am I going to put all these machines........
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Post# 7046-10/17/2001-11:30 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Stuff from Maryland (In the Living Room)
MESSAGE: Front Loaders can go in the Living Room, in front of the Lazy Boy. Heck at least there aren't any commericals.
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Post# 7047-10/17/2001-12:02 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE Laundry
MESSAGE: Peter, can you still get new tranny's from GE for your pre-95 machines or have they discontinued making them already?
Eddy
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Post# 7048-10/17/2001-12:32 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE Laundry
MESSAGE: From GE: Effective in the 2nd quarter of 2001 a new arrangement with Rebuilts Unlimited, Inc to take over GE rebuilt tranny service. The new ordering process for rebuilt trannys only applies to the older S line of rebuilts NOT the new non-rebuildable tranny.
GE Appliance parts will continue to inventory the following ORIGINAL transmissions WB38X10002,WH38X10006, WH38X10007, WH38X10008, WH38X40, WH38X50.
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Post# 7049-10/17/2001-12:37 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE Laundry
MESSAGE: WHAT, they don't stock the WH38X12, Well I've Never!
How do they expect me to reapir my AW5, g-d forbid it ever needs it!
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Post# 7050-10/17/2001-12:50 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE Laundry
MESSAGE: I've only ever bought rebuilts. Seems to me I went into sticker shock at the price of a new one when I had to replace my first one 2 years ago. If you return the bad tranny, it runs about $40 now...
-ph
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Post# 7051-10/17/2001-12:51 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE Laundry
MESSAGE: Hmmmm... And who could give us the differences between all these numbers? Maybe one has a souped-up spin?
-ph
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Post# 7052-10/17/2001-12:52 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE Laundry
MESSAGE: Robert, who are you trying to kid? If something went wrong, you'd pull it apart and use your noodle to get it back going again...
-ph
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Post# 7053-10/17/2001-13:32 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Sudz Save
MESSAGE: I was always impressed by how many differnt ways people wash clothes from the hook-up to the operation of the machine itself. My Grandmother thought it was a good idea to let the washer rest 1/2 hour between loads! (lol) Wasn't sure if that was for her or the washer! (lol) I always wondered what happens if you use bleach as far as suds saving? The water isn't saved? I would think also if you are going to re-use water you have to sort clothes by degree of soil, from least soil to most soil I would guess. You probally do sheets first. How was the linting? After washing towels you couldn't do dark colors they would get fuzzy, the lint filters were much better on the vintage machines. My RCA whirlpool does a much better job on lint with the brush filter v/s the "Magic Clean" filter machines!
"Brooklyn Robert"
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Post# 7054-10/17/2001-16:05 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
Snag this dryer in CA
MESSAGE: Here's one for a California member to snag...
-ph
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1474644982
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Post# 7055-10/17/2001-16:19 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
Look at these beauties
MESSAGE: and what's hiding behind the washer?
-ph
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1286337027
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Post# 7056-10/17/2001-16:21 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Snag this dryer in CA
MESSAGE: Hey Rich (spandamn) that's the very first Kenmore dryer. I think it needs a nice home near San Francisco, don't you?
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Post# 7057-10/17/2001-17:02 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Snag this dryer in CA
MESSAGE: My grandmother had the washer and dryer (gas) until 57 when the washer was replaced with a Maytag. I always wanted my grandfather to replace the burned out light bulbs, but he thought that was silly.
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Post# 7058-10/17/2001-17:03 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Look at these beauties
MESSAGE: Probably the A700 he's talking about that was used for parts. It comes with the brown set.
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Post# 7059-10/17/2001-17:05 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Look at these beauties
MESSAGE: This is the washer I had in turquoise (my dryer matched) still miss those!
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Post# 7060-10/17/2001-17:17 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Sudz Save
MESSAGE: Hi Robert
Sounds a bit of a ballache to me as well waiting around!!!
I`d drain into a sink as well given the chance, perfect for your yellow dusters and polishing cloths...
There was a machine over hear in the 70`s called a Parnall Spin-Wash, a big auto top loader,a neighbour of my aunts had one, I remember my aunt had just had my cousin, loads of terry nappies, and a wringer washer, the neighbour always insisted that my aunt go over to use her spinner for drying.
I remember my aunt saying she went around with the nappies and the neighbour was using her washer but said it didnt matter, and she proceeded to spin the clothes and selected a Sudz-Save switch which pumped the water to a tank inside the machine, my aunt spinned the nappies then the neighbour pumped back the water and carried on, . I never did see it in action myself..
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 7061-10/17/2001-17:23 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Stuff from Maryland (Colours & Cake -Perfection!!!)
MESSAGE: Jason sounds like a good time was had by all...What a mega colour those machines are, we`ve had nothing but boring white with a hint of almond....Blaaahhhhhh..
I guess the cake was finished before you reached home...LOL
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 7062-10/17/2001-17:34 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: has it arrived yet? (I`d love to know too!!!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Dave
Count me in on this one, no- it bloody hasnt!!!,,,,should have been in store on last friday and then deliveries to customers on wednesday -today. Now Currys dont know when its coming in , but would " still like to take cash orders for delivery"
The Titan website said launched on 24 Sep and Currys have exclusive for 4 months, so I checked all major towns, Manchester, Liverpool etc not a one.... I contacted Monotub tonight but H/O not open so promised to ring me back tomorrow with a date....If you do go in to Currys near you and see one let me know!!!!
Also they sent me a new brochure, I hadnt noticed the front panel is not one but two seperate pieces, which is why I now want to see it in the flesh so to speak before I committ, the join is in the middle near the door, on the hinge side it isnt noticable, but on the other it is, right under the detergent dispenser, imagine the potential!!!!
Soooo you`ll all know when I do.....
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 7063-10/17/2001-17:40 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Amana Front Loader (DADoES favourote brand best seller)
MESSAGE: Hi Arrrooohhh
Thanks for the best washer info and the data tables, surprised Miele wasnt better rated for energy use!!!
My relatives in Aus all say they keep their dryers in the garages, dont seem to keep them as pairs like USA..
At the point of sounding totally non-hip, what are the machines in the soap home and away are they Simpsons???
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 7064-10/17/2001-17:45 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Amana Front Loader
MESSAGE: Hi Steve
Thanks for the pics, it does seem a mega gap between the door and the drum, that door boot seal seems gigantic compared to the european ones...
Do you think thats why they had possible trouble with leaking seals etc???
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 7065-10/17/2001-18:20 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: has it arrived yet? (Currys)
MESSAGE: Hi Mike, is Currys an appliance store, or do they sell other things like computers, home decorating items, etc?
If you ever get a chance to take a digital snapshot and post it, it would be really interesting for us on this side of the Atlantic to see a picture of the front of Currys (from the outside) so we can get an idea of what an appliance store in Chester might look like. Anyway, inquiring minds want to know!
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Post# 7066-10/17/2001-18:22 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
Today's Find
MESSAGE: IF I remember correctly Peter has a set of this model in White for me.
LINK: http://web.tampabay.rr.com/jasonspages/today.html
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Post# 7067-10/17/2001-18:26 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find
MESSAGE: Fabulous find Jason, it probably wasn't used very much. Where did you find it? Is this one going in the living room?
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Post# 7068-10/17/2001-18:53 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Sudz Save
MESSAGE: BR, When you ued the sudsaver, you played by wringer washer rules. Bleach went into the first rinse. Good lint filters would take the worst of it out, but you might not want to do dark socks last. Degree of soil was important in sorting. You started with bed linens, table linens and dish towels, bath towels and underwear, then the fast colors, then the darker ones, always adding soap or detergent with each load to keep up the suds. John's Lady with the self cleaning filter does not flush the lint out until the machine starts spinning then you can hear the suds valve clunk and the linty water squirts out the regular drain hose.
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Post# 7069-10/17/2001-18:54 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (YYYYYYESSS!!!!!!!!! (Almost))
MESSAGE: Well.. My mom's washer was an 800 but it wasn't the dial-in-the-window model. The faceplate was more of a one-piece and it has a flourescent tube light going across the top. BUT, the agitator is the same. Memories.
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Post# 7070-10/17/2001-18:55 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find
MESSAGE: That was one of my favorites. When I went to the Sal. Army auction last week, there was a covered console Lady KM that was already sold - but it was in about this nice of shape too. Enjoy it!
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Post# 7071-10/17/2001-19:41 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT:
Bob (appnut)
MESSAGE: Anyone heard from Bob? We talked the evening he became ill again. However, he was feeling good during our conversation.
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Post# 7072-10/17/2001-19:50 ||| daveuk (Livingston)
SUBJECT:
RE: has it arrived yet? (Currys)
MESSAGE: Thats rubbish Mike... I'm going to be at the shops tomorrow, so if I see one I'll let you know...
Uni - Curry's is mainly appliances and home entertainment (ie AV equipment, computers etc), and small appliances and phones. They are part of the Dixons Stores Group, along with Dixons, The Link and PC World... (of course that probably means nothing to you either :-) ) Website linked below...
Dave
LINK: http://www.currys.co.uk
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Post# 7073-10/17/2001-20:58 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (Great Find)
MESSAGE: Jason - what a great find. It does look like it's in mint condition.
Peter
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Post# 7074-10/17/2001-21:00 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find
MESSAGE: I'm not sure where it's going yet. What I may do is keep the guts to put in the one from Peter if the cabinet and top is ok on those. I'm more inclined to keep matched sets.
The one neat thing about this one is it has the plastic outer tub. I'm thankful for that because steel replacement used tubs in good condition are hard to find and new ones are expensive.
This one came from the used appliance center. I usually go in twice a week to b/s and work on stuff for them. My payment is machines.
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Post# 7075-10/17/2001-21:02 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (Great Find)
MESSAGE: It's in pretty good shape for 31 years old. The console is a little pitted and some paint chips, but what do you expect. Now if only I had the dryer........
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Post# 7076-10/17/2001-22:06 ||| jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Coin operated Frigmore (chemical injection)
MESSAGE: Greg Thanks for clarifying the dispenser system for me. I always liked the wascomats at our cape laundrys. They never seemed to get bogged down no matter how much you stuffed them!
jon
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Post# 7077-10/17/2001-22:18 ||| jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: List lovers! (wrong...)
MESSAGE: Arooohhhh:
you forget I have family over there and have spent alot of time Sydneyside! I was once shopping for a ST George oven at an upmarket dealer in S. Sydney! ST.George used to make the most beautiful Ovens! They had a model with a curved!! glass front a few years back that I really liked but the dealer here in Toronto wouldn't carry it.DOLT!! Maybe Kleenmaid will push that line as their boutique line!
Have you ever been to one of Kleenmaids' showroom/demo rooms? I saw one in Brisbane and almost went by BUT you had to make an appointment and spend atleast two hours with a "host" who would demonstrate all the appliances for you live!
It sounded too involved and controlled for me and I wonder if they still have those showrooms? This was 1996.
jetcone
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Post# 7078-10/17/2001-22:22 ||| jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE Laundry
MESSAGE: He'd use more than his noodle--believe me!!
anonymouse
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Post# 7079-10/17/2001-22:25 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Bob (appnut)
MESSAGE: Not a word Leslie, I'm a little bit worried about him, I sure do hope he is OK.
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Post# 7080-10/17/2001-22:27 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: has it arrived yet? (Currys)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the link Dave, they seem like a British version of the Minneapolis based "Best Buy" store chain here in the USA.
Boy the washers all look so similar, I particularily liked the "Candy" machine.
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Post# 7081-10/17/2001-22:28 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find
MESSAGE: So it must have been replaced at some point recently if its plastic?
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Post# 7082-10/17/2001-22:28 ||| jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: has it arrived yet? (with arm in!!)
MESSAGE: Mike don't forget to stick your arm in when you take that snap shot!
we need acurate dimensions ya'know!
jon
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Post# 7083-10/17/2001-22:29 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE Laundry
MESSAGE: Funny, I think I just heard a huge slap sound coming from somewhere near Boston.
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Post# 7084-10/17/2001-22:31 ||| jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE Laundry (AWWOUCH!!)
MESSAGE: that hurt............................
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Post# 7085-10/17/2001-22:49 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Bob (appnut)
MESSAGE: I thought I had his phone number and apparently didn't, called information last night and was told there was no listing. I'll have to look one more place to see if I have it in an email somewhere.
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Post# 7086-10/17/2001-22:56 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find
MESSAGE: Uni, there actually were a very 'few' machines built back in the early 70's period that had plastic outer tubs. Very unique......surely this has gone a long way in preserving the guts of this machine. By the way, if you recall the t.v. program "Knots Landing" this is the same washer that was shown in Karen McKenzie (Michelle Lee') laundry alcove in virtually every episode......with the box of Tide on a shelf above.
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Post# 7087-10/17/2001-22:58 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Bob (appnut)
MESSAGE: Greg, I'm thinking he must have gone back in the hospital, and is now away from a computer. Seems so unlike him not to post.
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Post# 7088-10/17/2001-23:03 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Bob (appnut)
MESSAGE: I found a listing at switchboard.com. Right address, don't know if the phone # is current.
Anybody tried locating the hospital?
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Post# 7089-10/17/2001-23:07 ||| SPAMBDAMN (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Snag this dryer in CA
MESSAGE: Wow, the first Kenmore! Hmmmm. I'll have to think about it, and look up the town on the map... I do have a transport truck now... as long as it's not too hot out (it runs a bit warm, still)...
Now, would this match the first Unimatic???
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Post# 7090-10/17/2001-23:09 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find
MESSAGE: It's original. This was their first attempt at plastic tubs. I don't know why they didn't stick with it.
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Post# 7091-10/17/2001-23:10 ||| SPAMBDAMN (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Bob (appnut)
MESSAGE: Hope he is ok. I believe I was in the chat room with him just before he got sick again that night.
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Post# 7092-10/17/2001-23:12 ||| SPAMBDAMN (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
Got filter-flo photos, just need to scan and upload...
MESSAGE: Got filter-flo photos, just need to scan and upload... but my dsl went out again today, so it took me some time to get back online. The DSL provider has declared bankruptcy, and wouldn't give an exact date when they would end service... but I guess this is it. I'm connecting via another, slower line right now. Have pacbell dsl on order but it won't be good until at least the 23rd.
The photos do look good. Nice shot of flo watering the garden...
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Post# 7093-10/17/2001-23:18 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: has it arrived yet? (Currys)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the link to Curry's, fun to "shop" for a while. I want a spin-drier, there is only one company that sells them here (by mail) and they are terribly expensive. What do you know about Smeg - do they have a full range of products? They seemed to be at the upper end of the price scale, never heard much of them before.
LINK: http://www.spin-x.com/
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Post# 7094-10/17/2001-23:24 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Snag this dryer in CA
MESSAGE: No but it would match the first Kenmore washer! :>
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Post# 7095-10/17/2001-23:28 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Help the Webmaster Test
MESSAGE: Can everyone see this animation at the attached link??? Does it appear smoother than the animation on the home page, and does it appear to be approximately pulsating at the right speed for everyone??? Did you get a special download needed dialog box before you could view this animation???
Your comments will be much appreciated. This is my first attempt at using Macromedia Flash for producing animation. I have lots of fun ideas if this works for everyone.
LINK: http://classicappliances.com/ANIMATION/3-Ring%205%20Total%205%20Keys.html
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Post# 7096-10/17/2001-23:39 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Help the Webmaster Test
MESSAGE: It's perfect! Can you make anything (picture) do that? ;-)
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Post# 7097-10/17/2001-23:55 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Help the Webmaster Test (Yep)
MESSAGE: It makes my monitor bounce up and down.
Good thing it wasn't spinning :D
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Post# 7098-10/17/2001-00:15 ||| Lenny (Northeastern Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Help the Webmaster Test (Works 4 Me!)
MESSAGE: Uni:
It works perfectly on my Compaq p.c. with AOL! Very even, rapid puslation!
Lenny
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Post# 7099-10/17/2001-00:25 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Help the Webmaster Test
MESSAGE: Pulsation began immediately, no addt'l downloads required.
I think most browers include the Flash plug-in nowadays.
Some wonderful things can be done with Flash and ShockWave and other such products.
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Post# 7100-10/17/2001-00:27 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Help the Webmaster Test (More Pulsation Fun!)
MESSAGE: I'm running IE 5.5 SP2, if that means anything particular.
Try right-clicking on the pulsator, select Zoom In, then the mousie turns into a hand and you can move the pulsator around on the screen.
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Post# 7101-10/17/2001-00:29 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Help the Webmaster Test (More Action)
MESSAGE: Now let's see a pulsamatic . . . :-P
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Post# 7102-10/17/2001-00:37 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Amana Front Loader (Soap washers)
MESSAGE: I dont know where you are up to in Home and Away but the Sutherland family have a early 90's Hoover Premier. Strange when you consider in their kitchen the latest Whirlpool appliances are prominately displayed. :)
When the Flecther family lived in that house they had an old Westinghouse. They are the only machines that you can see, the other families laundries arent visible.
I remember in Neighbours that both the Robinson and Ramsays had Phillips top loaders. Dont know what they have now as I havent watched Neighbours since Kylie Minogue left ;) I am listening to Kylies new album Fever right now!
Will have to watch now and see what they have.
Where do your relatives live?
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Post# 7103-10/17/2001-00:50 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: List lovers! (Hmmm, going to do some ground work)
MESSAGE: Hmm, I though that was Strange too but a co worker of mine recently purchased one and said its labeled "Kleenmaid St George" and then it says underneath in small printing "manufactured by Speed Queen USA"
The web site I posted seems to confirm what she said to me.
Was it from a Kleenmaid dealer that you had to make the appointment? I find they are so pushy in their show rooms but you do get to see the machines in action. I want to go to the shops this weekend. So I will see what I can find out while dodging one of those leacherous sales people.
I also want to see if the Maytag Atlanis are in store yet and see if their are any Kelvinator washers on floor. That really intrigues me because I was under the impression that Email was going to concentrate Hoover and Simpson as washer brands, Westinghouse and Kelvinator for refrigeration and Chef and Westinghouse for cooking. Maybe electrolux has other ideas.
Cant wait for the weekend!
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Post# 7104-10/17/2001-01:15 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Help the Webmaster Test
MESSAGE: Looks wonderful Robert. Much better than the one on the home page.
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Post# 7105-10/17/2001-01:15 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Help the Webmaster Test
MESSAGE: I wish
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Post# 7106-10/17/2001-01:17 ||| SPAMBDAMN (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Snag this dryer in CA (Duh!)
MESSAGE: (Slapping self in forehead) Duh! Of course! What was I thinking? It's a charming piece, nonetheless.
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Post# 7107-10/17/2001-01:17 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Help the Webmaster Test
MESSAGE: How about a Super Roto Swirl??
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Post# 7108-10/17/2001-01:18 ||| SPAMBDAMN (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Help the Webmaster Test
MESSAGE: Yes, It is great animation. Much better than that on the home page. I usually run a program called Adsoff that interferes with many animations/popups. But the link you posted works fine with it.
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Post# 7109-10/17/2001-01:20 ||| SPAMBDAMN (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
'78 Filter-Flo Scanned & Uploaded
MESSAGE: I've scanned the photos of the '78 GE Filter-Flo and sent a museum submission to our esteemed webmaster. The photos are all over on my Yahoo photo album, so y'all can see Flo in action in various modes - with/without filter basket, mini-basket, dousing a tree with her suds, etc... ;-).
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Post# 7110-10/18/2001-02:33 ||| miss jet cone (Hopkins ,MN)
SUBJECT:
L G Intellowasher DD washer/dryer combo
MESSAGE:
HI guy'
Does any one know if this is a good combo to buy?
I would like to buy one and did not know if you guy's
have herd any thing about this combo yet.
thanks Miss jet cone
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Post# 7111-10/18/2001-06:52 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Help the Webmaster Test
MESSAGE: Robert, looks great, works great. TT
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Post# 7112-10/18/2001-07:18 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: '78 Filter-Flo Scanned & Uploaded
MESSAGE: Uhh, what is your yahoo photo album called?
I tried spambdamn but that didnt work.
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Post# 7113-10/18/2001-07:49 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT:
RE: Help the Webmaster Test (came right up)
MESSAGE: no prompting on this end but then again I do a lot of work in flash anyway.. I have a hankering for a new washer. I looked at the Hetties and comparing them to a Bosch the only piece of information I cannot find is how much laundry will a bosch hold? I was not happy that the Hettie only heated water an additional 30 degrees and not from a cold start for all that money. Well going shopping today
Thanks
Philippe
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Post# 7114-10/18/2001-08:01 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Help the Webmaster Test
MESSAGE: Thanks everyone for testing!
We'll it's relatively easy to make a static picture go up and down, but its much hard to make something like a roto-swirl agitator turn back and forth because all you have is a picture of the agitator in one position. I would need to find a picture of the agitator in about 12 to 24 different rotational positions. Although I do have an idea how to do that, I just need to experiment more. And as for making any picture do that, we'll let's just stick to appliances shall we! -- LOL!
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Post# 7115-10/18/2001-08:07 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Help the Webmaster Test
MESSAGE: Are we going to have a new washer graphic to put our "new and improved" pulsator into??
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Post# 7116-10/18/2001-08:46 ||| Hartrimt (Buffalo, NY)
SUBJECT:
Service Parts-- 1958 GE range
MESSAGE: I just got my first vintage appliance, a 1958 GE range, actually it got me-- it came with the house. I am planning on using it to bake parts in my shop. It is clean and in beautiful condition but it seems to have a few problems with the wiring and a couple of broken internal parts. Where would i go about buying parts for it or at least where can i start looking?
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Post# 7117-10/18/2001-09:01 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Service Parts-- 1958 GE range
MESSAGE: Hi Hartrimt, I have a feeling that you might get lucky with finding GE range parts. I would start at your local appliance parts shop and see what still might be available. You can also call they GE-Answer Center at 1-800-626-2000.
After that I would contact Jack Santoro at jes@west.net, he is an expert in Gas and Electric Range Restoration.
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Post# 7118-10/18/2001-09:35 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Help the Webmaster Test (came right up)
MESSAGE: Philippe, if you like to watch, look for a Whirlpool Duet. The window is not covered with a smoked lens so you can see in beautifully.
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Post# 7119-10/18/2001-09:45 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
My wonderful gift
MESSAGE: Got up and went to work this AM as usual. Got to the front door and saw the sign that we were closed until Tuesday, at least. I wondered why I had not heard anyting about this, but had to blame myself since I spent from 5 to 7 last evening bringing in all the tropical plants because of a frost warning instead of watching news. Soon, I saw other early shift friends walking up who had not heard either. I took the Metro back to my car and the parking attendant gave me my ticket for today back when I told him why I was leaving. I was back home 70 minutes after leaving and would make the trip for 5 days off anytime. There is nothing in the paper about the closing except for the House and the Senate offices. We are connected to the House offices by a tunnel. So I am going to enjoy this wonderful five day blessing that was dropped in my lap. I have plenty to do, but now the pressure is reduced without even having to run cold water over me. Presto
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Post# 7120-10/18/2001-09:55 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: My wonderful gift (Days Off)
MESSAGE: Tom - I did hear that Washington was closing. Enjoy your days off. Hope to speak soon.
Peter
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Post# 7121-10/18/2001-11:58 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: The General Electric Wing
MESSAGE: Yay!! I am looking forward to that one, the Frigidaire is going to be the largest wing I guess. I'm also looking forward to the Speed Queen wing. And I guess I'd better start looking for material for the Miele wing.
The GE wing is absolutely wonderful. I wasn't able to post about that because my connection was down for a few days after I watched the pictures. I posted once from work, but I have only little time to get on this site. More than 120 posts to catch up...
Louis
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Post# 7122-10/18/2001-12:15 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Bob (appnut) (Bob was in hospital...is OK)
MESSAGE: Hi Guys...I got an email from a friend of Bob's and he informed me that Bob went into the hospital for surgery. The surgery went well and Bob was OK, but would probably in the hospital for a bit. I have not heard anything since and this was last week, so I assume that Bob is still not at home. His friend, Max, didn't give me the hospital information or Bob's phone number. I emailed Max back but haven't heard anything.
Rich
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Post# 7123-10/18/2001-12:23 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Help the Webmaster Test
MESSAGE: Robert...the animation looks a bit smoother to me...great!!!
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Post# 7124-10/18/2001-12:24 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Help the Webmaster Test
MESSAGE: nasty Mr. Gansky ;-)
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Post# 7125-10/18/2001-12:30 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Amana Front Loader (& Creda)
MESSAGE: I have never seen a Hotpoint appliance overhere in Holland, but then again we hardly see any British appliance overhere. Only Creda was here on the market for a while, I think that must have been over 10 years ago and then mostly dryers. I guess since Germany is our main trade partner we have a lot of german appliances here with the Italians in second place. It are not only the British products that you don't see here but also the French washers and dryers haven't found their way to the Dutch market. Not that they are greatly missed though.
Louis
PS: Long time since I have been at a Habitat store.
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Post# 7126-10/18/2001-12:34 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Stuff from Maryland
MESSAGE: Jason,
That is a really wonderful Frigidaire set. What is the name of the color? What is the spinspeed of this pair?
Congratulations on this wonderful pair, I envy you.
Louis
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Post# 7127-10/18/2001-12:39 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: '78 Filter-Flo Scanned & Uploaded
MESSAGE: Arrrr,
Try this:
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/veefre/lst?.dir=/Filter-Flo&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/veefre/lst%3f.dir=/Filter-Flo%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 7128-10/18/2001-12:40 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: My wonderful gift
MESSAGE: What a wonderful gift Tom, I would love such a gift right now. Too bad it has to be under such terrible circumstances.
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Post# 7129-10/18/2001-12:41 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Help the Webmaster Test (came right up)
MESSAGE: I believe the HE3t and perhaps also the Duet HT can heat from a cold wash all the way to hot, but you have to fiddle with the controls a bit to do that. Still, it's possible, according to a post on THS.
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Post# 7130-10/18/2001-12:42 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: My wonderful gift
MESSAGE: I would do almost anything for five free days right now!!!
Congrats and stay healthy!
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Post# 7131-10/18/2001-12:46 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: '78 Filter-Flo Scanned & Uploaded (How Fun!!)
MESSAGE: What fun pictures Rich, thank you so much. I will ad your pictures to the GE wing ASAP. It's so much more fun when we can all contribute to the museum!
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Post# 7132-10/18/2001-13:41 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Stuff from Maryland (now's the time to make room)
MESSAGE: Peter,
So when your GE dryer is from 1961 it might well be that I saw a matching washer overhere in Holland when I was young (many years ago!!). It would be great to see some pictures in the GE wing of the museum.
Louis
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Post# 7133-10/18/2001-13:56 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: has it arrived yet? (Currys)
MESSAGE: Hmmm, I guess you haven't devellopped an eye for quality on frontloaders yet....
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Post# 7134-10/18/2001-13:57 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: '78 Filter-Flo Scanned & Uploaded (How Fun!!)
MESSAGE: Thanks, Robert. It was fun taking them, a nice day in the sun with water, suds, and Flo.
It looks like the '78 will slot in nicely after the series of other machines, from '47 to '66. I'm particularly impressed with the '47 and its funky rotary controls, and also by that altogether weird washer sink. I had heard of such a thing, but it had never been adequately described to me before. Seeing the photo is everything!
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Post# 7135-10/18/2001-13:59 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: has it arrived yet? (with arm in!!)
MESSAGE: Perhaps PeterH should make a trip to the UK to get his arm up that washer too. I think he is the one that has his arm up a washer most often in the convention pictures.
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Post# 7136-10/18/2001-13:59 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: '78 Filter-Flo Scanned & Uploaded (How Fun!!)
MESSAGE: PS-I also have a circa '78 24 " GE wall oven, same color and styling as the Filter-Flo washer. If you are interested I could photograph that as well. It still works fine although the temperature probe and rotisserie attachment accessories are long gone.
I'm still kicking myself for getting rid of the matching GE dryer...
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Post# 7137-10/18/2001-15:03 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Bob (appnut) (Bob was in hospital...is OK)
MESSAGE: I have Bob's room number at the hospital. Haven't tried calling yet, wonder if he's up to taking calls yet.
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Post# 7138-10/18/2001-16:35 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Bob (appnut) (talked to Bob)
MESSAGE: Well, with Glenn's (Dadoes) help I tracked down Bob and gave him a call in the hospital. Boy was he surprized...I think I woke him up and he was groggy at first. We had a nice chat and I told him I would let everyone in the club know that he is improving and should be released to go home in the next few days. I let him know the club was concerned about him and that we miss his witty posts.
He sounded good and said he was feeling a lot better today than he had been feeling. The poor guy has tubes in him draining his stomach and is not able to take food.
If I hear anything further I'll let you guys know.
Rich
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Post# 7139-10/18/2001-17:04 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: '78 Filter-Flo Scanned & Uploaded (Wanna sell it?)
MESSAGE: OMG, that's the match for my dryer. Same color too! Beautiful!!
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Post# 7140-10/18/2001-17:14 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: '78 Filter-Flo Scanned & Uploaded (what is)
MESSAGE: What is that "spaceship" looking thing on top of the filter-flo? A dispenser?
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Post# 7141-10/18/2001-17:23 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: '78 Filter-Flo Scanned & Uploaded (what is)
MESSAGE: Fabric softener dispenser
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Post# 7142-10/18/2001-17:25 ||| Lenny (Northeastern Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT:
Belt-Slippage Clutch
MESSAGE: Hi guys:
Can someone explain to me the Maytag Atlantis' 'belt-slippage' style of clutch. Im amazed by this actually, that a washer can just use 'slippage' of its belt around the pullys to gain torque. It would seem to me that you would get severe overheating and smoking/breaking of the belt. I realize that a specialized composite type of belt must be used to minimize these problems yet still, it seems like an off-beat way to gain torque. Has Maytag used this system over mechanical clutches for years? If so, what are the advantages or disadvantages of such a spin drive method? Curious!
Lenny
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Post# 7143-10/18/2001-17:25 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: '78 Filter-Flo Scanned & Uploaded
MESSAGE: I had that model washer and dryer at one time. I liked the way it worked but it drank too much water.
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Post# 7144-10/18/2001-17:29 ||| Lenny (Northeastern Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT:
RE: '78 Filter-Flo Scanned & Uploaded (G.E. Americana )
MESSAGE: Jason:
My 1977 G.E. Americana Filter-Flo with the Dispensall system looked very similiar to this model except more bells and whistles and florescents! I THINK the 'flying-saucer' on top of the filter basket is G.E.'s fabric softener dispenser. Notice it doesnt get doused by the filter flo. Its a 'spin action' centrifugal dispenser I believe. My Americana did not have this as it had a specialized compartment in the lid to dispense fabric softener via the filter flo spout direction change! Quite a contraption - and by the way was in 'Harvest Gold' with the deeper edged borders!
Lenny
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Post# 7145-10/18/2001-17:35 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Bob (appnut) (talked to Bob)
MESSAGE: Hey, wonderful! Do you think he would be up for taking another call? 8-)
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Post# 7146-10/18/2001-17:55 ||| nmaineman36 (Portland Maine)
SUBJECT:
RE: Belt-Slippage Clutch (Maytag Belt "
clutch"
)
MESSAGE: Lenny Maytag has been using that design in the helical drive machines for years. The motor is mounted on a moving carriage .During wash the motor in my Dependable Care washer turns clockwise which makes the the motor move forward to the front of the machine and tightens the belt around the drive pulleys and creates the torque and power to get the Orbital transmission into motion. Also too the brake is seated in the brake package to prevent the housing from spinning. The helical drive shaft is at its lowest point and connects to the drive lug causing the shaft to move and spin the gears to cause the short fast stroke wash action.
Then during spin the motor spins counterclockwise and the force makes it move on the carriage to the back of the washer casuing the belt to slip..this is torque limiting so the motor doesnt absorb the starting strain of a full tub of water and clothes. It causes the transmission pulley to ride up the helical drive shaft and as it does that it lifts the spin brake in the brake package and moves as a unit causing the tub to spin. Inside the transmission is a clutch of 2 washers one is bronze and the other has ears connected to the transmission housing. The first few revolutions is enough to drive the oil out from between them. This causes the housing to spin with the shaft. At the same time the pump is removing the water in the basket and as the drag force of the water gets less the belt and motor carriage begin to tighten the belt some and this cause the tub to increase spin speed. As the water is gone you will see that the washer takes a few seconds to really get to top speed of 618 rpms. I can hear the water hit the outer tub which to me sounds cool.
Mike
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Post# 7147-10/18/2001-18:23 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
More pics in my briefcase
MESSAGE: I just added some more pics and video of my 70s GE dryer. Can someone look at the model # tag and give me the year? Also, Robert, you may add those pics and videos to the museum if you wish. Thanks.
LINK: http://briefcase.yahoo.com/kenmore800
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Post# 7148-10/18/2001-18:26 ||| daveuk (Livingston)
SUBJECT:
RE: has it arrived yet? (Currys)
MESSAGE: LOL
I was going to post the exact same thing... they may look nice, but I think people tend to wish they hadn't bought them... I suppose, if you wanted a machine you could 'fiddle with', it might be good ;-)
By the way Uni, if you want to see a *big* range of machines, try looking
here.
Dave
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Post# 7149-10/18/2001-18:31 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find
MESSAGE: That is a real nice washer my aunt had that machine. It worked with the A-B-C alph on the timer. It was nice but when it was set to auto for the water temp. it would fill with hot water on 14 min. on Normal cycle, if you wanted warm water you had to put it on 10 min. for a warm water fill which I thought was a problem if you wanted warm water and 14 mins., she always turned it back after the fill. I found the HI water level wasn't really high enough, she would always push up to reset until she thought it was enough for her! Let me know if the Perm. Press cycle has the half empty and fill with agitation on the cool down, I always thought that was fun to watch also, but must have put a big strain on the machine. It's still a very nice machine! Good Luck with it!
"Brooklyn Robert"
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Post# 7150-10/18/2001-18:34 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Help the Webmaster Test
MESSAGE: It works for me! It's cute!
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Post# 7151-10/18/2001-18:53 ||| Lenny (Northeastern Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Belt-Slippage Clutch (Thanks Mike - Well Informed Maytag Man)
MESSAGE: Hi Mike!
Thank you for that very well written, discriptive explanation of the Maytag's belt slip clutch! It was most informative. Im wondering if the newest Atlantis which is based on the Norge/Magic Chef design also uses the same mechanism that the Dependable Care Maytags do? I do know that there is a belt slipping clutch on the Atlantis but the transmission is very different from your helical drive. This motor 'carriage' you speak of, how much 'play' or movement are we talking about? Is it slight fractions of an inch or actual inches of movement? When she clicks into Spin from a very brief motor pause, I DO hear some kind of audible metalic click or clank immediately after it starts...could this me the shift of the motor in its carriage or something to do with the drive shaft?? My Atlantis seems to be a very 'heavy' well built machine. For sure she has terrific wash action with a slower, longer, traditional stroke. Thanks again for all your educated information!
Lenny
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Post# 7152-10/18/2001-19:48 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
POD - First Micro?
MESSAGE: What a beautiful Micro those Radarange's were. My aunt had one just like that and my friend's dad had the digital version. I know I'm not the only one that would sniff the air coming out of the vent. Anyway, was that the first micro to hit the market? That was in the 60s right? Just curious.
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Post# 7153-10/18/2001-20:23 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: My wonderful gift
MESSAGE: Wow - what a nice gift, the reason is a bit unsettling, but nice anyway. If only people would stop being dirty for 5 days, I have to work this weekend.
To amuse myself, I went to the Launderall dealer's today and clocked a KDS-18 that I may get to play with. Also saw a 1970 KM keyboard washer and dryer that were in beautiful shape. They asked my what the markings on the vari-flex meant - don't see those often I guess. They'll want way too much for these gems, and I don't need another dryer. In the front window was also a 69-70 GE BOL washer that was in nice shape too. I didn't have time to shop for parts today, but they are still there for next time.
Enjoy your vacation!
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Post# 7154-10/18/2001-20:24 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Bob (appnut) (Bob was in hospital...is OK)
MESSAGE: I found his number and called this morning - do you know the name of the hospital?
Thanks for the update - Greg
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Post# 7155-10/18/2001-20:26 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: My wonderful gift
MESSAGE: Take pics whenever you run across machines in these situations. It's the best way I get to share in the excitement and pleasure.
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Post# 7156-10/18/2001-20:32 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: '78 Filter-Flo Scanned & Uploaded
MESSAGE: Very cool pictures - the one of the mini draining was very cool! This was one of my favorite models - with the buttons. Thanks for posting, will be a nice addition to the museum too!
That gold protective layer on the outside cabinet and top means it's a gem in my book!
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Post# 7157-10/18/2001-20:42 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: My wonderful gift
MESSAGE: I wish I'd had it with me - usually there is nothing noteworthy there and I had a 1/2 hour to kill before parent-teacher conferences. Today, there was lots to see! I really need to get up there more often, but I'm running out of room in the house and the weather is going to be too cold to wash in the garage or outside soon.
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Post# 7158-10/18/2001-21:25 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: More pics in my briefcase
MESSAGE: Jason your dryer was produced in March of 1981. The 1st letter "F" indicates the month, and the 2nd letter "H" indicates the year.....and in your situation it applies to '81. It also was used in '69 and it'll come around again in 2005. It repeats every 12 years. Still doin' laundry to AC/DC???
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Post# 7159-10/18/2001-21:37 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: More pics in my briefcase (OUCH)
MESSAGE: 1981? Man, I thought it was older than that. :-( . I was hoping it would be 1974 or something like that. There was is a 74 in the number.
I was listening to the Beastie Boys while washing my whites. White rap=white towels.
"You gotta fight... for your right... to spin drain"
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Post# 7160-10/18/2001-21:52 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: '78 Filter-Flo Scanned & Uploaded
MESSAGE: I like the filtering, and the idea and execution of the minibasket. But, in practice, I can fit twice as large a load in the Neptune as I could in the Filter-flo, with better cleaning. I also like the filter-flo's centrifugal fabric softener dispenser. It was the reason why I kept the GE and gave away my '84 RCA Whirlpool wigwag super capacity belt drive washer. Anyway, glad you enjoyed it.
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Post# 7161-10/18/2001-21:55 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: '78 Filter-Flo Scanned & Uploaded (G.E. Americana )
MESSAGE: Yes, the "flying saucer" is the centrifugal fabric softener dispenser. It works quite well, as long as you don't lift the lid and stop the spin before it's ready. You put a diluted softener/water mix inside the inner chamber. During the spin, it's forced out of there and into the outer chamber. The centrifugal force also holds the softener on its inner walls during the spin. When the spin stops, the mixture flows out thru holes in the bottom of the outer chamber. Sorry, I probably should have labeled the photo, from left to right: minibasket, filter tray, and softener dispenser.
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Post# 7162-10/18/2001-22:00 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: '78 Filter-Flo Scanned & Uploaded
MESSAGE: Thanks!
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Post# 7163-10/18/2001-22:06 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: '78 Filter-Flo Scanned & Uploaded (Centrifugal Softener Dispensers)
MESSAGE: How well does the GE "saucer" handle an unbalanced load when spinning starts? Ohhh, well, since it spin-drains, there probably isn't much shaking of the tub until it gets fairly much up to speed -- the water load holds it more steady.
That was one of my beefs with Whirlpool's centrifugal dispenser of old, before the DAA. An unbalanced load would have quite a bit of the liquid sloshing out of the inner chamber before the spin speed got up enough to hold it in the outer chamber, and it would run out and be wasted. The DAA dispenser, like I had on my KA, seemed somewhat less prone to that problem, but it still did it to a small degree.
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Post# 7164-10/18/2001-22:10 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: '78 Filter-Flo Scanned & Uploaded (Centrifugal Softener Dispensers)
MESSAGE: I've never noticed a problem with an unbalanced load interfering with the dispensing. The GE handles such loads pretty well. I guess I'm going to have to haul Flo out of the carport and do another load with fabric softener and the lid up!
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Post# 7165-10/18/2001-22:44 ||| steved (Albany NY)
SUBJECT:
Somebody else is missing!
MESSAGE: Hi, all..good to hear that Bob is dong well, and hope to see him back asap.
But am I daft, or where is Scott?????
SteveD
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Post# 7166-10/18/2001-22:46 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Somebody else is missing! (Scott)
MESSAGE: I noticed Scott missing as well. I emailed him several days ago, and he says he is doing well, but gave no specific explanation on why he hasn't posted here in a while. 8-)
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Post# 7167-10/18/2001-23:11 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
ABC O Matic Homepage
MESSAGE: Very cool - always some new treat here!
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Post# 7168-10/18/2001-23:13 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Somebody else is missing! (Scott)
MESSAGE: Yeah, I wondered where Scotts been. He always has something interesting to say. He posted on a THS forums that he wouldn't be posting there anymore, but here is a more special group.
Hes been posting on the Yahoo Hooverland Club though.
Come back Scott!
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Post# 7169-10/18/2001-23:13 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: ABC O Matic Homepage
MESSAGE: ?
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Post# 7170-10/18/2001-23:16 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: '78 Filter-Flo Scanned & Uploaded
MESSAGE: Woo Hoo!
Thanx Rich. She is one beautiful machine.
Love her!
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Post# 7171-10/18/2001-23:23 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: ABC O Matic Homepage
MESSAGE: The Homepage - here....
LINK: http://www.classicappliances.com/
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Post# 7172-10/18/2001-23:28 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: ABC O Matic Homepage (Ahhhhhhh!!!!)
MESSAGE: Fab-U-Lous! Didn't see that 'til now, been staying on the Applianceville screen, refreshing it.
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Post# 7173-10/18/2001-00:53 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: '78 Filter-Flo Scanned & Uploaded
MESSAGE: How about a final rinse with bluing in the water?
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Post# 7174-10/18/2001-01:14 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: '78 Filter-Flo Scanned & Uploaded
MESSAGE: Glad you liked Flo. She enjoyed her day in the sun as well.
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Post# 7175-10/18/2001-01:34 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: has it arrived yet? (Currys)
MESSAGE: Greg,
The Spin-X machines indeed seem to be rather expensive, but I believe they are bigger than most European spindryers. Wat worries me more is that on the Appliance Forum there are complaints about these machines, they don't seem to work flawlessly. I simply love my Miele spindryer (1986) although I don't use it that much anymore after I bought my Miele washer that spins with 1400 rpm.
Smeg is an Italian design brand. Their quality is better than the average Italian brand and they make beautiful appliances. They have a full range of kitchen appliances, they don't make washers and dryers. Overhere in Holland the freestanding stainless steel ranges are in fashion at the moment, the built in appliances seem to be out of fasion at the moment. Most important competitor is Gaggenau. Only thing I can say about them is that in the past their dishwashers were a little noisy and their fridges weren't very energy efficient. They have a website, but I don't find it very userfriendly.
Louis
LINK: http://www.smeg.it/homeint/home_international.htm
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Post# 7176-10/18/2001-01:37 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Help the Webmaster Test
MESSAGE: It works wonderful, even on this side of the ocean. It stutters a little before it starts working properly, no downloading dialog.
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Post# 7177-10/18/2001-01:39 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: has it arrived yet? (Smeg)
MESSAGE: Silly me should have posted Smeg in the post about Smeg appliances. Duh!
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Post# 7178-10/18/2001-01:42 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Amana Front Loader (Soap washers)
MESSAGE: Arrrooohhh, were those H-axis toploaders? Or did Philips make V-axis toploaders too? Louis
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Post# 7179-10/18/2001-01:49 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Help the Webmaster Test (came right up)
MESSAGE: Philippe,
The Bosch is probably the smallest frontloader on the American market. I think the Hettie are almost twice as big as the Bosch.
Louis
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Post# 7180-10/18/2001-01:59 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Amana Front Loader (Soap washers)
MESSAGE: Hi Louis. Dont get too excited. They were Japanese made machines. They had a flat impeller/pulsator at the bottom.
Do you get any Aussie soaps in the Netherlands?
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Post# 7181-10/19/2001-02:05 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: '78 Filter-Flo Scanned & Uploaded
MESSAGE: Thank you Rich for the pictures. I bet Greg is salivating over the color right now. I guess the temperatures are set by the fabric selection pushbuttons? Like Bob I love detailed control panel pictures. Louis
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Post# 7182-10/19/2001-02:26 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: ABC O Matic Homepage
MESSAGE: Yes, it's great!!!
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Post# 7183-10/19/2001-02:29 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Amana Front Loader (Soap washers)
MESSAGE: I never knew Philips put their name tag on that kind of machines.
Yes we had Neighbours overhere, but I'm not a soap watcher.
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Post# 7184-10/19/2001-02:46 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Amana Front Loader (Soap washers)
MESSAGE: Phillips also put their name of Hoovers Australian top load and front load machines for a while in the late seventies and early eighties.
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Post# 7185-10/19/2001-06:48 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: ABC O Matic Homepage
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg, and if you think that is cool wait till you see what's coming next out of the animation department. Stay tuned.
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Post# 7186-10/19/2001-07:16 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: has it arrived yet? (Currys)
MESSAGE: Surprising about the Spin-X, you'd think with such a simple mechanism, and "new" technology for the US market, the product would be nearly flawless - especially for the price.
I did find laundry products in the UK section on the Smeg website, and I agree about the "non-user friendliness" of the site, but the washer I looked at was very neat looking - a fully integrated machine - not that it would appeal to any of us! Thanks for the info, I guess I'll keep spinning the old way! Have a great weekend - Greg
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Post# 7187-10/19/2001-07:22 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: ABC O Matic Homepage
MESSAGE: If you could make my computer dispense a chocolate doughnut every morning when I turn it on, that would be the best! Mmmmmmm, doughnuts! ;-)
Thanks for all your hard work, can't wait to see what's next!
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Post# 7188-10/19/2001-08:08 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
Check out the cool toy washer!
MESSAGE: I found this on Ebay the other day and was watching it - look what the bid is up to now!
Do you UK guys know these toys? It looks like a lot of fun and so realistic for a toy washer.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1650949120&r=0&t=0&showTutorial=0&ed=1003805047&indexURL=0&rd=1
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Post# 7189-10/19/2001-09:05 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Belt-Slippage Clutch (Norgetag VS Maytag)
MESSAGE: Lenny, have you looked into and under your machine? John says he is quite sure that the Norge design was a single belt machine with the belt going around the pump and tranny pullies. It cannot slip too much because the pump would not drain the tub and the motor pulley is plastic and would melt. Please check out the design of the machine before assuming that the Norgetag works like a Maytag. And, no, the belt is not some super duper wonderful material. It is the same as other belts. We explained the Maytag system when you first got the washer and you accused Jason of being anti-Maytag for saying that if it was out of adjustment it could burn up belts. Westinghouse front loaders of the 3 belt design used the belt as a clutch system also when the machine went into spin. Tom
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Post# 7190-10/19/2001-09:11 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Somebody else is missing! (Scott)
MESSAGE: Hel told me of some trips he has made, but otherwise did not indicate that anything was keeping him from the club.
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Post# 7191-10/19/2001-10:02 ||| Lenny (Northeastern Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Belt-Slippage Clutch (Non - ligitimate accusations)
MESSAGE: Tom:
Firstly, I DID NOT accuse 'Jason' for being an 'Anti-Maytag' guy. I did PLENTY of research and on-line research before I made an over $800.00 decision on a top loader (One of the most expensive American top loaders). My decision was my own and it was My choice. A month plus later I couldnt be happier with the Atlantis - again MY opinion. I was somewhat taken aback when someone initially 'attacked' the Atlantis as being 'old' and having 'outdated technology' which, for the record I wholehartedly disagree. As we all know, sometimes used and tried technology is often the best and has yet to be improved upon - ie: G.M. Frigidaire's pulsator washers! I posted an initial question when I first found this site and asked people their input on the Atlantis. I used the responses, along with many other factors, in making my final decision to buy the TOL Atlantis. One particular person besieged me with what I can only call 'attacks' on the Atlantis washer and its mechanisms. The comments were also unsubstantiated and biased toward another manufacturer so I therefore dismissed this particular responce from my research. And, again, Im quite happy with my t/l Atlantis addition to my laundry. Just making my record straight and as Unimatic responded perviously to me - no ONE washer will be everything to everybody - its all in good fun and experimentation.
My Atlantis does have a single belt system underneath the bottom floor of the machine. The belt turns both the pump and the tranny pulley. However she works, she works beautifully, smoothly, quietly and efficiently and I am again, very happy with my Atlantis choice.
Lenny
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Post# 7192-10/19/2001-10:13 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Somebody else is missing! (Scott)
MESSAGE: I know he was going to visit his parents but that was last weekend. He said he had some other engagements too but that's all I heard.
Eddy
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Post# 7193-10/19/2001-10:16 ||| Lenny (Northeastern Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Belt-Slippage Clutch (Composite ? A foreign word?)
MESSAGE: Also, Mr 'Tom'
I was simply asking if these type of 'slippage clutch' washers used a stronger belt than just plain rubber. I used the word 'composite material'! Im certain I did not use the words 'SUPER -DUPER -WONDERFUL' material! (Is that your understanding of the word composite)? WHEW...someone needs to lighten up here!
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Post# 7194-10/19/2001-10:17 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find ('72 window dial set)
MESSAGE: The ones I have for you, Jason, are different. See link below...
(I like this Coppertone one better!)
-ph
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/vwp?.dir=/Yahoo!+Photo+Album&.src=ph&.dnm=72+Kenmore+washer.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/lst%3f%26.dir=/Yahoo!%2bPhoto%2bAlbum%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 7195-10/19/2001-10:28 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find ('72 window dial set)
MESSAGE: I like those a lot better!!!
The '70 800 is now dead. Going to the scrap yard today along with 3 others.
The centerpost was too far gone to give a proper seal around the tub. So I parted her out. I need more room!!!
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Post# 7196-10/19/2001-10:37 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find ('72 window dial set)
MESSAGE: Did you keep the control panel?
-ph
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Post# 7197-10/19/2001-10:47 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find ('72 window dial set)
MESSAGE: Sure did.
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Post# 7198-10/19/2001-11:35 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: '78 Filter-Flo Scanned & Uploaded
MESSAGE: Glad you enjoyed the photos, Louis.
Yes, the pushbuttons control the temperature. All the rinses are warm, unless you select cold on the cold water dial. Then everything is cold. In other words, you can't get a cold rinse unless you select a cold wash! This is obviously not very energy efficient, but that's the way things were, I suppose, in the USA in 1978. This was a reason why I upgraded to the Neptune.
I have some more photos of the controls, more closeup, with separage photos of each section of the panel, three in all. I'll see if I can scan these in and upload them to the Yahoo photo page.
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Post# 7199-10/19/2001-11:36 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: '78 Filter-Flo Scanned & Uploaded
MESSAGE: Do you mean bluing in the softener dispenser so one could track its movements during the spin? Or bluing in the rinse so one could see a blue tint to the flo during agitation? Or both?
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Post# 7200-10/19/2001-11:39 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Belt-Slippage Clutch (Non - ligitimate accusations)
MESSAGE: Lenny,
Well, I think claiming a modern machine has "old" and "outdated" technology is actually a compliment on this forum!!!
LOL!
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Post# 7201-10/19/2001-11:40 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: has it arrived yet? (Smeg washer)
MESSAGE: You're absolutely right, there is a washer on the UK Smeg site. I have never seen this one before. Perhaps it is especially made for the UK since the British are more used to having a washer in the kitchen. Anyone of the other Europeans recognize this washer?
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Post# 7202-10/19/2001-11:47 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Belt-Slippage Clutch (HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY)
MESSAGE: Lenny we are happy that you are happy; I just don't understand why you have to keep telling us how much money you spent and that you are so happy. It seems like you are needing justification for what you did. It's your money. We don't care. You were not attacked and we have the posts on record to show it. It is a shame that on one is allowed to say anything less than stellar about the Norge design or Maytag without your feeling it is an attack on you, your decisions and your machine. You come across as very defensive about this machine. Again we don't care. And, please do not bring Frigidaire washers into this. They were not perfect for washing everything, were not that long lived, for various reasons, as their scarcity points out and none of their mechanims was really around long enough to be called tried and true. Your "born face down in the mud yesterday" wonder about the Maytag belt slippage was puzzling since it had all been explained when you first got your washer, back when you thought you were being attacked, not that it has anything to do with your Atlantis. The proper adjustment of a Maytag's belt tension has far more to do with the performance and life of the belt than the composition of the belt, wnich is just a regular drive belt, nothing special and again it has nothing to do with the drive system on your machine since yours uses a different belt even though it has the Maytag name on it. Last time I checked, all of us are free to have and like whatever machines we want. I have that Creda, which everyone from the Continent and United Kingdon knows is a cheaply made washer. I do not consider that an attack on me or the machine. It is just a statement of fact. I know it also, but it does work and is fun to play with and I got it for nothing. You like laundry appliances with the name Maytag on them. Fine. Wonderful. Whatever. I have a few Maytags myself. I'm glad you got it when you could. It will not be able to meet the most stringent DOE standards that are coming. And, Lenny, there are two Jasons on the club and you did accuse Jason from Florida of being anti-Maytag. His moniker is HQOTS. You did it after he said something about them burning belts. And, excuse me again, but I thought you told us that you did not buy the TOL Atlantis because you did not buy the one with the Energy Saver setting that substitutes Warm Water for a Hot Wash fill when pushed. You asked the club what the Energy Saver Setting did and we told you. You told us you were glad you did not buy that model, but that you did get the stainless steel tub in the next one down. That is in the archives also. Tom
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Post# 7203-10/19/2001-11:47 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (Kenmore )
MESSAGE: I realy love this Kenmore - Best of luck with it
Peter
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Post# 7204-10/19/2001-11:48 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Somebody else is missing! (Left message)
MESSAGE: I had also left Scott a message some 2 weeks ago and have not heard anything back either. I hope he is ok.
Peter
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Post# 7205-10/19/2001-11:51 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Belt-Slippage Clutch (Composite ? A foreign word?)
MESSAGE: There are no "plain rubber" belts in use. Plain rubber is latex, like in condoms. They are all a composit material.
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Post# 7206-10/19/2001-13:02 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Belt-Slippage Clutch (Rubberology)
MESSAGE: I don't know about the terms "plain rubber" and "composite rubber", but it is true that minimally processed natural rubber is latex, simply the dried secretions of the rubber tree. Vulcanization (heat treatment with sulfur) yeilds the rubber most of us are familiar with, such as is used for tires and hoses. It greatly strengthens the bonds between rubber molecules, because the sulfur molecules can link neighboring rubber molecules, yeilding a stronger material. Sulfer-protein bonds are also found in nature to strengthen proteinaceaous materials such as hair and hide. A drive belt is usually vulcanized natural rubber or a similarly strengthened synthetic rubber, that is also reinforced with fibers of various composition - such as polyester, nylon, or kevlar(aramid). This might be called a composite belt, but the term fiber-reinforced belt might be more appropriate. A composite rubber might have additional strenthening fibers incorporated into the rubber matrix in addition to the fiber reinforcement. This additional reinforcement might make the belt more tolerant of slippage and fraying forces.
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Post# 7207-10/19/2001-13:33 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
ABC O Matic on home page
MESSAGE: Wow, Robert!!! What a surprize when I went online today and saw the ABC agitating. It's fantastic! Great job!!!
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Post# 7208-10/19/2001-13:40 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (low fill)
MESSAGE: That has always been a pet peeve of mine...Kenmore and Whirlpool washers fill only about 3/4 of the way up the tub on the highest water level. It irked me that salepeople would say how big the basket was, but it certainly wasn't usable capacity unless you dial-pushed the water level reset or had a hose nearby. They always had the biggest agitators too...that were only half-way under the water.
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Post# 7209-10/19/2001-13:57 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (low fill)
MESSAGE: Easy fix. Remove the control panel and adjust the screw on the water level switch.
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Post# 7210-10/19/2001-14:41 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (low fill)
MESSAGE: Yes, I agree with that. For a very long time, our 1962 Whirlpool's water level switch was out of adjustment -- low was at the medium level, medium was at the high level, and high was . . well, HIGH. I thought that's how it was supposed to be. Then the serviceman came for some problem or other, and adjusted the pressure switch correctly, and OH MY. But actually, that did then seem right, for the low level to be lower like it then was after the adjustment.
On my KA, the high level did come up pretty high, but there was still room for at least a couple more inches of water, not to mention about 6 inches more spiral exposed on the DAA. I realize the extra height was to make room for the softener dispenser, but they shouldn't put the spiral all the way up -- it's rather misleading.
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Post# 7211-10/19/2001-15:36 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (low fill)
MESSAGE: yeah...and if I only knew that when I owned Kenmore top-loaders, I would have been so much happier! :-) I still need to adjust the water level switch on the Kenmore frontloader I have like Steve did to George's...one of these days. Jason...do you adjust the water level switch on your Kenmores to raise the water level?
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Post# 7212-10/19/2001-16:04 ||| Lenny (Northeastern Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Belt-Slippage Clutch (Malicious Intent - but I'm here to stay anyway!)
MESSAGE: Dear Mr 'Tom'
Its really a shame that people can be so vindictive and nasty on these public forums. I have been thoroughly enjoying my postings and chats here. However, as per the bell-curve found in all things, you cant make everyone happy with you all of the time. I do however, find your comments toward my postings to be empty accusations and with the intent as to cause 'trouble'. You, Tom will not offend me anylonger with your negative, rude comments and trouble seeking implications! I AM a part of APPLIANCEVILLE whether you like that fact or not - I enjoy honest, helpfull appliance talk and have found this site most enjoyable. You certaintly do not have to respond to any of my postings so if in your eyes you find them abrasive, simply ignore them as you will see my postings again and again.
Also, PLEASE do not keep saying 'WE' when your refer to the Applianceville Club...Let the others speak for themselves. I have spoken to some really wonderful people here and Im sure that you do not speak for the entire group. Its really a shame that some people are always trying to exclude and undermine others good intentions. Im on to you sir!
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Post# 7213-10/19/2001-16:09 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (low fill)
MESSAGE: Oh yes. The level is just way too low for my liking. I also adjusted the one on my Maytag and the Kenmore frontloader when I had it too.
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Post# 7214-10/19/2001-16:15 ||| Lenny (Northeastern Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Belt-Slippage Clutch (Fiber - Reinforced Belting)
MESSAGE: Thank you Spambdamn:
Your information on the types of rubber is quite interesting. When I use the word 'composite' for the rubber belting Im just assuming that it isnt made of a 'pure' rubber. But, of course, I dont know as Im not a chemist. Id suppose most materials today are some sort of a 'composite' anyway. I am familiar with the term 'fiber reinforced' and that would have been a better choice in my pervious posting about the Atlantis belt. Thank you for your knowledge on the matter.
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Post# 7215-10/19/2001-16:19 ||| geodon2000 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: and what a difference that has made...
i can now soak laundry totally immersed in sudsy water...
the final rinse water is now totally clear...
and it's much more entertaining to watch...
i was about to return the frigmore before steve performed his magic...
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Post# 7216-10/19/2001-16:21 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Belt-Slippage Clutch (Malicious Intent - but I'm here to stay anyway!)
MESSAGE: Lenny, What exactly is your problem? You have asked the question about the belt drive Maytag system over and over again. You get answers that you don't like and then take it out on others. Go read through the archives Lenny. You were not being attacked, however you were, in your terms attacking those who gave you less than favorable answers to your questions. You are doing nothing but dragging up old liquified crap. Get over yourself and get off the cross. We need the wood for the fire.
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Post# 7217-10/19/2001-17:16 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
Posting a Video?
MESSAGE: I brought Skyler home from school today sick - we both took nice long naps and feel much better. I have been playing with my PC camera and finally have the knowlege to take some video clips, unfortunately without sound, but don't know how to post them or where to download them to. Help meeeeeeeeeeeeee
Thanks - Greg
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Post# 7218-10/19/2001-18:16 ||| Whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Check out the cool toy washer!
MESSAGE: I purchased one of those on ebay a few months ago; it's great! It has a gasket around the door and holds water. Alot of fun to use! (lol) It's going for over $90.00 now! WOW! I bought mine for a lot less. I'm glad I got it when I did!
"Brooklyn Robert"
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Post# 7219-10/19/2001-19:00 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT:
Inglis washer
MESSAGE: Hi everyone! I just brought home the Inglis washer I rescued from the crusher and cleaned her up. After a few minor repairs, it's working just fine. The model is #LBO.4600. I called Inglis Canada and they couldn't even find it in their record book! The closest they could say is around 1964. Anyone recognize it and could correct me? Here are some action shots, I hope the link works.
Eddy
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/eddy1210/lst?.dir=/Inglis&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/eddy1210/lst%3f.dir=/Inglis%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 7220-10/19/2001-19:03 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inglis washer
MESSAGE: What is the serial number? It's actually a Whirlpool made machine.
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Post# 7221-10/19/2001-19:25 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inglis washer
MESSAGE: I will get that for you... I just have to do a few errands yet tonight.
Eddy
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Post# 7222-10/19/2001-19:32 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inglis washer
MESSAGE: Very cool Eddy - the panel styling looks very similar to the 1968 Whirlpool range that I have sales books for. I'll bet in my knob stash there are even a couple (or a handfull) of knobs that would match this vintage for the temp and level dials - I just sent you a box of goodies this week, too bad I didn't know. I love the magic mix with the clear glass top too - don't forget to submit your new baby to the Whirlpool museum section!
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Post# 7223-10/19/2001-19:35 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: '78 Filter-Flo Scanned & Uploaded (How Fun!!)
MESSAGE: PS-Any idea when you will be updating the GE wing?
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Post# 7224-10/19/2001-19:36 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Check out the cool toy washer!
MESSAGE: But a Danby is only $267!
;-)
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Post# 7225-10/19/2001-19:48 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (Fine Tuning)
MESSAGE: George,
I'm so glad you are enjoying the FL with the additional water. The rinsing has improved, too. I estimate, the water usage is about 6-8 more gallons per load.\
Steve
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Post# 7226-10/19/2001-19:51 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (How?)
MESSAGE: I might be getting my frigmore soon. How do you adjust the level? I'd be interested to tweak mine also when I get it.
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Post# 7227-10/19/2001-20:11 ||| daveuk (Livingston)
SUBJECT:
RE: has it arrived yet? (Smeg washer)
MESSAGE: Yeah, I've seen it a couple of times... I can't get the Smeg website just now, but I believe they (used to) make a freestanding washer/dryer also... What intrigues me is the fact that a *very* similar looking machine is being marketed by
Hotpoint and Creda, and I think I've seen it under other names too. I'm not sure who actually makes it, whether it is Smeg or some other company.
Generally I quite like the look of Smeg products, but they are certainly priced high, I can only dream of affording something ;-)
Mike - Yesterday I was in Edinburgh and thought I'd go to Currys, but there wasn't one where there used to be one. I had a look at my local one today, briefly, and didn't see a Titan. I also asked someone and the response was along the lines of "Titan? We don't sell anything called a Titan, there are no new washers due in except for Bosch." and then they walked off. So I left, rather confused.
Dave
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Post# 7228-10/19/2001-20:20 ||| daveuk (Livingston)
SUBJECT:
RE: has it arrived yet? (Smeg washer)
MESSAGE: There's also the washer/dryer, which seems to be rebranded as Hotpoint, Creda, and
Whirlpool...
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Post# 7229-10/19/2001-20:29 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inglis washer
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg! It could very well be a '68 model. It's fun playing with the Inglis, it's the first one I've owned. Haven't received the goodies yet, but let me thank you in anticipation. I bet I know what some of those items are!
Eddy
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Post# 7230-10/19/2001-20:52 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
Appnut Status
MESSAGE: I talked to him earlier this evening. He had a bit of complications today, but it's now under control. No specifics yet on when he will be released.
I gave him some updates on what has been going on here -- Ms. Mini Filter-Flo, the Kenmore 800, HQOTS's lovely Frigidaire pair, etc.
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Post# 7231-10/19/2001-21:16 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Appnut Status
MESSAGE: Can you email me with the telephone number details? Thanks Glenn!!
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Post# 7232-10/19/2001-21:58 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Posting a Video?
MESSAGE: Hi Greg, I hope Skyler is feeling better now. Use Yahoo Briefcase for posting your videos, but they have to be trimmed to 5mb or less. If you need some more help with that lets talk this weekend and I'll talk ya through it.
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Post# 7233-10/19/2001-22:01 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inglis washer
MESSAGE: Hi Eddy, your Inglis is beautiful! That's one of the oldest Inglis machines I have ever seen. Inglis automatics as far as I know were always made by Whirlpool, back to the early 50's. I would suspect that your machine is from around '66 or '67.
If you ever find an extra Black or White Inglis agitator cap around, I would love to have one to add to my agitator cap collection.
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Post# 7234-10/19/2001-22:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: '78 Filter-Flo Scanned & Uploaded (How Fun!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Rich, I'm going to do that over the weekend, its been a busy couple of days for me.
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Post# 7235-10/19/2001-22:23 ||| Lenny (Northeastern Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT:
Scheduled Chat possibility
MESSAGE: I was thinking that It might be a good idea to schedule a 'chat room session'. This might be an agreed upon day/time that is agreeable to most. Some other forum sites schedule chats like this. It might be a nice way to have a number of people in the chat room at a time. Usually when I go to the chat room, there is no one there (Except for one time with DADeOS and Appnut - It was very nice actually chatting with others here. Any ideas?
Lenny
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Post# 7236-10/19/2001-22:29 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inglis washer (museum)
MESSAGE: Thanks, Robert. I'll keep my eye open for another agitator cap for you! BTW, when you get the Inglis section of the museum up and running, I'd be honored to have her picture in there. What do you think of the 4 rows of holes on the bottom of the spin basket? Perhaps Inglis made their own?
Eddy
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Post# 7237-10/19/2001-23:11 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Scheduled Chat possibility (Great Idea)
MESSAGE: Sounds like a great idea Lenny, why don't you go ahead and be the Chatmaster and schedule away.
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Post# 7238-10/19/2001-23:17 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inglis washer (WOW!)
MESSAGE: Hi Eddy, I didn't notice that the basket has 4 rows of holes at the bottom until you mentioned. VERY COOL! I do think there was an Inglis factory in Ontario that did make parts. I wonder why they kept the older basket design? What about the Inglis machines of the 1970's, we're there 4 rows of holes in the bottom of the baskets then too???
I liked your captions on your action pictures. Since your the only member who has an Inglis machine, I can use your machine to open the Inglis wing. But I need a vintage 1950's Inglis advertisement to use as the wings background wallpaper. The only Inglis brochure I have is from 1974, do you have any 1950's vintage Inglis ads that could be scanned?
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Post# 7239-10/19/2001-23:31 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inglis washer (WOW!)
MESSAGE: That Inglis is very similar to a Whirlpool Supreme 70 (or maybe it was a Supreme 80) that my grandparents had, even down to the backlit timer. I honestly don't know what year their machine was, but I suspect the late 1960s.
The major differences are: the Inglis has the MagicMix brush filter and the Whirlpool had a MagicClean self-cleaner; the Inglis has a variable water level and the Whirlpool had high/med/low; IIRC, the Whirlpool also had Super Wash on the Perm Press cycle; and the Whirlpool didn't have that spiffy blue color on the console.
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Post# 7240-10/19/2001-23:39 ||| Lenny (Northeastern Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT:
Chat Room open during Wash Cycle!
MESSAGE: In chat room for awhile while laundry is running! Drop by.
L
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Post# 7241-10/19/2001-00:06 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inglis washer (WOW!)
MESSAGE: Yes, Robert, Inglis went to the two row of holes by the early 70's for sure. My mother had an early '70 Inglis and it had the two rows, but I remember seeing the four row design quite often as a naughty boy checking out people's laundry rooms!
Unfortunately, I don't have a 50's Vintage Inglis logo to use but I certainly will keep looking for one.
Eddy
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Post# 7242-10/19/2001-00:18 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: '78 Filter-Flo Scanned & Uploaded
MESSAGE: I think both would be delightful!!!!!!!!!!! But I will leave that to your discretion.......
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Post# 7243-10/19/2001-00:43 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inglis washer (museum)
MESSAGE: Best guess without the serial number is going to be 67-69. I believe 69 was the last year that style was made although it could have been 68.
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Post# 7244-10/19/2001-00:59 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inglis washer
MESSAGE: Eddy,
Another great find for International Washer Rescue! I love the blue color on the control panel. Thank you for the pictures.
Louis
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Post# 7245-10/19/2001-01:03 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: has it arrived yet? (Smeg washer)
MESSAGE: Could be that the washing machines for Smeg are made by GE. Is there any other connection between those two companies.
BTW, your links in the text don't work, just put your link into the URL Link to share area, that will work.
A new Bosch?
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Post# 7246-10/20/2001-10:38 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: has it arrived yet? (Smeg washer)
MESSAGE: Hi Dave
Thanks for checking out the Titan, got a letter today from them to explain that the nearest that Currys have got to distributing them is Junction 9 of the M6 which is Birmingham.
It was on Currys web site last week in the new products section but I notice today it has been pulled!!!!!
Heres hoping, Mike
p.s. I thought the washer/dryer was made by De Detrich and badged for Smeg and others, could be wrong though....
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Post# 7247-10/20/2001-10:42 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inglis washer
MESSAGE: Hi Eddy
What a great find, love the blue colour, on the infinate water fill, if you selected medium fill and it stopped, if you felt more water was needed could you just dial to a higher setting and it would fill up???
Oh to find a skip or crusher like that over here!!!
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 7248-10/20/2001-10:47 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: '78 Filter-Flo Scanned & Uploaded
MESSAGE: Hi Rich
What a great machine, looked like the garden was enjoying the soak as well!!!
Could you use the mini basket while doing a small normal wash underneath or is it to be used only on its own???
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 7249-10/20/2001-10:51 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: ABC O Matic Homepage (Water, Water)
MESSAGE: Hi Robert
That ABC just bounces!! all we need now is the "water Splash"LOL, Mike.
p.s. Have you been doing tooooo much animation, I just read you liked the ""Candy" machines......
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Post# 7250-10/20/2001-10:58 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Check out the cool toy washer! (Hoover Electron 1100)
MESSAGE: Hi Robert
Glad you enjoy the "Hoover Electron 1100" not like me to miss one but didnt remember that over here...
When Hoover first brought out the 1100 spin machine it was really a souped up 800 rom machine, there where more bust drums and axles due to the faster revs and they had to hire a whole fleet of bigger service vans to cope with the replacement drums....
Happy washing, Mike
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Post# 7251-10/20/2001-11:02 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inglis washer (her majesty's blue)
MESSAGE: Thanks, Louis. I think it's great that you actually had the experience of watching all the vintage machines in action at the convention. You don't have to imagine how they work. Yes, I love the blue as well, this is what caught my attention first when I saw her outside amidst others.
Eddy
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Post# 7252-10/20/2001-11:07 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inglis washer (water level)
MESSAGE: Hi Mike, if you wanted a high water level after setting medium, you'd have to move the dial to the reset position. It's spring loaded at the end so that when you let go, it rests on the high position. Likewise if you want just a little more water over the high position, you can manually hold the dial to reset and let it continue filling as long as you like. Glad you like her!
Eddy
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Post# 7253-10/20/2001-11:13 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: '78 Filter-Flo Scanned & Uploaded
MESSAGE: spambdamn, I remember seeing one almost identical but it had a more unusual straight vane agitator that had 6 fins. Have you or anyone else seen that? That GE sure hosed everything down in the backyard!
Eddy
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Post# 7254-10/20/2001-11:48 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
Talked to Bob - appnut Today
MESSAGE: Just got off the phone with Bob, he sounds much better and was hopeful the doctors would release him today. He's anxious to get back to catch up on all the postings and latest finds everyone has made.
Off to the sales now, hope everyone has a great day!
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Post# 7255-10/20/2001-15:27 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
More stuff
MESSAGE: Today was a very good for gathering stuuf. I found a Maytag 608 dryer to go with Mabel. All it needed was a heating element. I also got a new top for the 65 Kenmore!! YAY Now I can have my dispensers!!
They also have a 69 DCD that will most likely be junked....does anyone want it???
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Post# 7256-10/20/2001-16:54 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inglis washer (her majesty's blue)
MESSAGE: Eddy,
I had the time of my life experiencing all the vintage machines. And guess what? I did my own load of laundry in the Speed Queen. I love the long agitator stroke on that machine.
Louis
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Post# 7257-10/20/2001-16:55 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Talked to Bob - appnut Today
MESSAGE: I'm glad things are going well with him. My thoughts were with him the last days. Hope to see him back here soon!
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Post# 7258-10/20/2001-17:32 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
Saleing Finds
MESSAGE: Scant few sales today, only found a bottle of SSST steam iron cleaner at one sale - had to have it for the name. That was about it for the appliance related stuff, but I did get some things that may interest the audiophiles in the group.
We happened by an estate auction today that we usually don't even stop for, but today we did. The homeowner was a huge audiophile and there was tables and tables of audio equipment. I have been wanting a turntable for a long time to play some old records I have including a Bendix Magic advertising record by Arlene Francis. I got a beautiful Technics direct drive turntable, and while I was at it, a Nikko amp & pre-amp which are incredible and a pair of Boston Acoustics bookshelf speakers.
I hooked everything up and it all works beautifully, but the Bendix Magic record (the reason I even stayed at the auction) is a 78 rpm and the turntable I bought only has 33 & 45! Oh well, my audio system is tremendously improved. My 1975 Advent Loudspeakers have never sounded better.
Here's a picture of what I brought home - including the SSST!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/wshrboy/vwp?.dir=/Estate+Sale+Finds+9-08-01&.src=ph&.dnm=Technics+Turntable+and+SSST.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/wshrboy/lst%3f%26.dir=/Estate%2bSale%2bFinds%2b9-08-01%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 7259-10/20/2001-18:36 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Saleing Finds
MESSAGE: Very nice find Greg, now can digitize the Bendix Magic advertising record and put it on the club?
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Post# 7260-10/20/2001-18:37 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Spamdamn's GE Added to Museum
MESSAGE: I also tried to ad JasonL's GE dryer, but the album was empty.
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Post# 7261-10/20/2001-18:41 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: We'll it was just another spectacular fall day in Minneapolis for the estate sales, October is one of my favorite months.
We found a lot of things today. I'm still debating about the Whirlpool you're about to see, but the steps are very dangerous and I don't know if its worth the risk. The Speed Queen is in horrible shape and as for the Apex, well you see for yourselves...
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/estatesale5/lst?&.dir=/Estate+Sale+Saturday+October+20+2001&.src=ph&.begin=9999&.view=t&.order=&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/estatesale5/lst%3f%26.dir=/Estate%2bSale%2bSaturday%2bOctober%2b20%2b2001%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 7262-10/20/2001-19:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Inside the dishwasher, inside the dishwasher???????
Very cool finds indeed! I told Bob this morning when we talked that I would bet money that Skyler and I would see a helical drive Maytag today - and we saw them at two of three sales, the third was a 80's WP.
Very neat SQ dryer, a 1953! Too bad it was in such bad shape cosmetically. Also a pity about the 55 WP washer - if I was there I would have carried it on my back! Nice finds - and beautiful fall colors too!
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Post# 7263-10/20/2001-19:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Saleing Finds
MESSAGE: No, the record is 78 rpm and the turntable is 33 or 45 only. I may just have to mail it to you - do you have a 78rpm?
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Post# 7264-10/20/2001-19:27 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Solenoid Activated Lid Latch)
MESSAGE: The Dishwasher wasn't plugged in so I couldn't open it up, it has a solenoid activated lid latch. :<
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Post# 7265-10/20/2001-19:28 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Saleing Finds
MESSAGE: Yes, actually 78's is the only I play!
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Post# 7266-10/20/2001-19:36 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Saleing Finds
MESSAGE: I'll stick it in the mail then - I found a place to transfer the commercials over to video tape too, so I can send it all at once.
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Post# 7267-10/20/2001-19:49 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: Hi George...how are you guys? What kind of detergent do you use in your Frigmore? How high is the fill on it now? It's still below the boot, right? Rich
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Post# 7268-10/20/2001-20:15 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Hi Robert...gotta love those beautiful fall tree colors!!! Gosh, I miss autuum. Don't really have that season out here. Thanks for posting your pictures.
That Apex dishwasher was cool...were the people still using it? The Whirlpool washer was very cool also. I noticed it had a straight vane agitator...what year did the surgilator make its appearance? The Westy front loader was nice also. Was it a Westinghouse or White-Westinghouse? It didn't look that old. It was unusual to see a Westinghouse front loader with dispenders. It must have been one of the top of the line models of its day.
Thanks again for posting...It's almost like saleing with you guys!
Rich
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Post# 7269-10/20/2001-21:41 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Spamdamn's GE Added to Museum (oops)
MESSAGE: Sorry bout that. I was messing around and accidentally deleted the stuff. I'm putting it back so you can add it.
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Post# 7270-10/20/2001-21:50 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Spamdamn's GE Added to Museum (It's back)
MESSAGE: OK. I was rearranging stuff and I accidentally deleted it. There's a photos and videos folder. There's a GE folder in both of these. That's my dryer. 1981 is the year.
There's one photo in my Kenmore folder. It's my mom's old Kenmore 600 dryer with the cat climbing out of it.
Thanks.
LINK: http://briefcase.yahoo.com/kenmore800
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Post# 7271-10/20/2001-23:02 ||| Lenny (Northeastern Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT:
Laundry Chemicals Organized with Class!
MESSAGE: Dont know how long this idea will last but Im trying it anyway! I bought some really nice, uniquely shaped large glass jars and bottles. I poured my powdered Cheer into the largest one with the lid and added a nifty metal scoop to the jar. I poured my orange 'tropical bloom' Downy into a beautiful whiskey decantor with a glass bubble corked lid. Now my washer area with the shelving unit above it looks 'classy'! LOLOL It looks really nice but I might miss the colorful boxes and jars and revert to the messy looking but fun shelving! For awhile though, I like my jars and bottles! (Have'nt figured out what to put the Clorox Bleach in though)!
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Post# 7272-10/20/2001-23:08 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: '78 Filter-Flo Scanned & Uploaded (Mini-basketology)
MESSAGE: Chester,
Thanks.
The Mini-Basket is supposed to be used only with clothes inside the basket. There isn't much room under the basket for more clothes, and there is no detectable water in the larger tub when the Mini-Basket is filled with water. This presumes that the "mini-wash" option is selected. I suppose that if the next higher fill level option was selected, there might be some water in the larger tub, but I also think that any clothes in there might interfere with the mini basket operation.
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Post# 7273-10/21/2001-02:03 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Saleing Finds
MESSAGE: Cool Finds Greg. I guess Nikko is Japanese? I didn't know the name. The turntable looks wonderful, but I never saw this particular model before.
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Post# 7274-10/21/2001-02:15 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Saleing Finds
MESSAGE: Thanks - I dated someone once that was a self proclaimed expert in audio equipment and learned a little about brands and what to look for along the way. What was his name? Anyway, I was told by a couple of other people that were bidding on this stuff that I got the "picks of the day" from the amplifier and pre-amp selections. There was a Thorens turntable that I really wanted, but the price of that one shot up pretty fast.
Nikko is a Japanese name and has made high-end audio equip. for a long time. My old amp was a Sansui and the left channel has been going bad for some time, so this fell in my lap right at the perfect time. I may have to start going to some auctions more often, all of the things I bought added up to less than $100!
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Post# 7275-10/21/2001-02:22 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
POD?
MESSAGE: Now it's not changing at all! Are you ready to scream and claw your face, Robert?
All part of the fun - thanks for your hard work (and enduring frustration!)
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Post# 7276-10/21/2001-02:24 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Robert,
That was quite an exciting day! The Apex Dish-A-Matic is real cute. What is behinde the panel on the front?
I love that Whirlpool washer, the control panel looks more like a radio than like a washer.
Quite a few other interesting items too. I'm surprised that you only brought two boxes of detergent home!
Louis
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Post# 7277-10/21/2001-02:31 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD?
MESSAGE: ??
The POD is new to me, it's a very cool Bendix picture. Try to reload.
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Post# 7278-10/21/2001-02:45 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Saleing Finds (SSSSSST)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg,
Pity about the 78`s,I sure Robert will be able to sort Arlene out..... what does the SSST stand for ???
Mike
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Post# 7279-10/21/2001-02:51 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Hi Robert
Looks like a perfct day there in the fall, is the Apex dishwasher the same as in POD last week??? also on the SQ dryer is it a gas model, and on the bottom right there was a door, for access to the burner perhaps???
Cheers, Mike
p.s. the person looking unsure looks like he could be forgiven anything!!!!LOL
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Post# 7280-10/21/2001-02:58 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD? (Very Cool & Formica)
MESSAGE: Looks super cool to me, How to tranform your life with a Bendix and "Formica", easy clean for those special moments!!!!
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Post# 7281-10/21/2001-03:10 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD?
MESSAGE: How odd, I checked it and got the "first to view" message of the Amana microwave and now it's the Bendix washer!
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Post# 7282-10/21/2001-03:12 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Saleing Finds (SSSSSST)
MESSAGE: It's the spelling of the sound of the steam iron shooting steam. If you run this solution through your iron, it cleaned out the lime and scale deposits, allowing it to shoot more steam ----- ssssssst!
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Post# 7283-10/21/2001-04:04 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (dishamatic)
MESSAGE: Robert, that was the Apex dishwasher that friends had, but theirs was a free-standing model. Did you look in the cabinet underneath it to see if it had the water heater? It was so neat to see it again. Thanks, Tom
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Post# 7284-10/21/2001-04:07 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (WH FL)
MESSAGE: Rich, only the TOL freestanding WH had the dispensers. The trouble was that the top was not porcelain so if you used the bleach dispenser a lot, the metal around it started rusting out. TT
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Post# 7285-10/21/2001-05:53 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: ABC O Matic Homepage (Its all about style)
MESSAGE: Give Uni a break. So the Candy machine mightn't be a Miele, but it is rather funky looking. I am one of those shallow people that go for style;)
Its not easy haveing champagne tastes and beer money.
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Post# 7286-10/21/2001-06:00 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inglis washer
MESSAGE: Thats a beautiful machine. I just love those old surgilators. Especially the black ones.
What is the Histpry of the Inglis company? Is it like Kenmore, only available through a dept. store chain? Do you have Whirlpool branded products in Canada?
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Post# 7287-10/21/2001-07:24 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
DD Wihirly tearing clothes?
MESSAGE: Ever since I moved in my new trailer and had my DD Whirlpool, I've noticed some of my socks and towels getting rips in them. I wonder if the Whirly's doing that. I always use the normal cycle and warm water for the wash. For detergent I use regular Tide and Purex colorsafe powder bleach. Anyone else with a DD machine had any problems like this? Should I use the gentle part of the Normal cycle only?
Thanks for any help.
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Post# 7288-10/21/2001-07:29 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: '78 Filter-Flo Scanned & Uploaded (Mini-basket memories)
MESSAGE: I was at my mom's house and we were talking about our old washers. My grandma had an early 70s GE with a flourescent light. The control panel was grey and black and it had the row of buttons. It had a filter-flo and minibasket. When my grandmother died in 1977, they rented the little house to some people for a year then it got abandoned. My aunt and uncle started going there on weekends to cut the grass and take care of the old house. When they opened the lid of the GE, there was a snake wrapped around the agitator.
Even the critters love old washers.
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Post# 7289-10/21/2001-07:42 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
Check this out.
MESSAGE: OK. It's an auction for a new GE washer but look at what's next to it. It looks like an old dryer. You could barely see a control knob and the top of the door.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1286382953
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Post# 7290-10/21/2001-08:24 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Hi Rich, no the Apex Diah-a-matic was not still in use. As for the Whirlpool washer, I'm not sure about exactly when they started using the Surgilator, I would guess it would be '56 by the advertising, but we have found alumniun Surgilator which leads me to believe it was earlier. The Westinghouse was from the mid 70's so it was just a Westinghouse.
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Post# 7291-10/21/2001-08:25 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD?
MESSAGE: Huh, ?? it seem fine to me?
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Post# 7292-10/21/2001-08:26 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Yes, I'm getting picky in my old age.
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Post# 7293-10/21/2001-08:27 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Hi Mike, that was a Youngstown Kitchen DW in the POD last week, and yes, you are correct the SQ dryer was gas.
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Post# 7294-10/21/2001-08:34 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Freestanding Models)
MESSAGE: Hi Tom, if it was the Freestanding model, I definately would have brought it home. I also saw a Youngstown Kitchen dw, but it was part of the sink/combo, I would much prefer the add the freestanding models to my collection.
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Post# 7295-10/21/2001-08:43 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT:
RE: DD Wihirly tearing clothes?
MESSAGE: I had the same problem with my lady-k. It would eat my socks a thread at a time til they were gone! It too was a three speed and I tryed different settings to allow it to change speeds during the cycle and it still ate my socks. I would go to get the clothes out and the threads would be wound around the other clothes and have everything in a knot. This and all the other problems I had with the machine forced me to get a maytag.
SD
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Post# 7296-10/21/2001-09:08 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: DD Wihirly tearing clothes? (Maytag)
MESSAGE: Yeah. And I bet the Maytag's lots of fun to watch doing its spin drain. I love my mom's Dependable Care Maytag for the spin drain. I can hear the water slapping against the outer tub just like someone earlier suggested "swish, swish, swish".
Well, if I can't get a Frigmore (which I hope I can), or a GE Filter-Flo to match my dryer, I'll get a Maytag. The PAV2300 is a CR Best Buy :-) . At $370 it's very attractive.
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Post# 7297-10/21/2001-09:08 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (don't debate!)
MESSAGE: Robert,
What a great weekend you had! But don't debate about the WP! Wow, it looks in great shape and it's only a year or 2 younger than your current WP top, right? What great styling! Go get it!
Now you also need the WH front and an native African themed laundry room so that you can play Pearl...
-ph
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Post# 7298-10/21/2001-09:12 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
My Saturday Finds
MESSAGE: Picked off 2 KM dryer control panels yesterday. On for a LK, model 100.6508934, that maybe Jason can use. The other, a 110.6307641, is the next model year style from my 62, so I snagged a bunch of inconsequential parts from it. WH frontloaders also seem to be coming into season here, along with the first SQ tops with the perf baskets.
-ph
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Post# 7299-10/21/2001-09:30 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: '78 Filter-Flo Scanned & Uploaded (6 and 8)
MESSAGE: The 6 straight vane agitator was used in the standard capacity models. It has 3 tall and 6 around the skirt. The large capacity models had 4 tall and 8 round the skirt. The 8 vanes later changed to a monstrosity 4 high vaned thing that I really disliked!
-ph
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Post# 7300-10/21/2001-09:35 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inglis washer
MESSAGE: Great find, Eddy!
-ph
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Post# 7301-10/21/2001-10:19 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Love that Westinghouse!)
MESSAGE: Hi Robert and Rich, Looks like you had a beautiful day for estate sales. That Apex dishwasher looked so cool, wish we could have seen inside. Loved the Westinghouse front loader. I believe it was a 1972-73. My college roommates family had a set just like that. Never got to play with it but used every excuse I could think of to walk through their laundry-room just to look at it. It looked like it was in great shape.
Terry
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Post# 7302-10/21/2001-11:14 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Belt-Slippage Clutch (Malicious Intent - but I'm here to stay anyway!)
MESSAGE: Lenny, I am sorry to have to write this, but I am sorrier still that you delight in making trouble here. I have gone back through the archives and viewed every message written to you or by you about your washers. What I found presented a disturbing pattern of warped perceptions and ignorance compounded by either a poor memory or disinterest in answers. I first explained the energy star to you in post 4453, yet you asked about it twice again, most recently in post 5179 and you thank Jason and me for the answer in post 5191. If something interests you, why don’t you figure out a way to save the answer? Then we first explained the belt as clutch in post 4466, then you asked about it in post 4980 and then again in 5015. How you deflected all that Rob and Jason were discussing toward yourself is a mystery, unless you need to make yourself miserable like you describe in post 4195 where you told us you bought a Neptune knowing it did not have a window and now find that it makes you feel disconnected from laundry. Well, now you have a toploader. Wash in the Neptune if it is energy savings you are after and rinse in the Atlantis for fun. In going back through all the verbiage that Rob posted, and the responses to it, I am struck by something else. Very little of the Maytag discussion has to do with your machine. Your washer is a Norge design. All the things that people did not like about Maytag don’t really apply because your Atlantis is built on a Norge platform. None of the comments about agitation or agitators has anything to do with your machine. Maybe we should have been clearer about that. Norge always had strong agitation. Maytag did not and it was compounded by Maytag’s settling on a 25 inch wide cabinet which forced them to use a narrower tub which further impeded good turnover. A bit of the talk about the trannies, was applicable to your machine because most newer washers have some plastic in the tranny. I could not find anything where I trashed your machine other than to make the observation, which is obvious, that it is not a state of the art machine with water consumption or extraction. I lost count of the number of posts congratulating you about your Atlantis, but unless they used the words that you do like wonderful, etc., you are not satisfied by them. After posting in 4434 that you were upset over the negative feedback, I called you to reason on it and you apologized in post 4498 to “all in Applianceville,” which I thought included me, but I guess you did not mean that since you are back on the warpath. Your grasp of Maytag’s history might play into this. In a post you asked if the turquoise agitator was the old one. Most of us refer to that as the newer agitator and know the old ones were the red or black Bakelite high fin Gyrators. I do not know if you feel that you have to create trouble to have an enemy to help some masochistic bent or if you just do not take time to comprehend what you read, but while there is nothing in the archives that supports your charge that I have attacked you, I certainly am going to defend myself against the outburst you posted here so if you want an attack consider this it. Maybe you are disappointed that you did not know about the new lid switch that is far more complicated ; have not been able to bypass the lid switch yet and feel bad about not being able to watch this new machine on which you have spent a lot of money, the other factor which keeps bubbling up through your posts. Maybe you now have two expensive Maytags that do not allow you to watch them. Maybe you have a reading problem or a memory problem; maybe you don’t know how to look up an answer in a previous post or can’t be bothered; or maybe you are just petulant that your new washer was not the center of positive attention after you posted about buying it. I don’t know, but it is unfair to all of us for you to take out your frustrations and lack of knowledge on the club or me, just because I and others here happen to have appliance knowledge you lack and can see through your ugly behavior. Or maybe it is because we are not so dazzled by the Maytag nameplate as to be blind to the reality of the product. This time your tirade is directed at me, but the whole club had to put up with a lot of irrationality and anger from you. You certainly do not come across as a person who was made really happy by your new washing machine.
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Post# 7303-10/21/2001-12:13 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inglis washer
MESSAGE: Hi arrrooohhh, the John Inglis Co. (Inglis for short) has been around for a very long time, can't give you any dates I'm not up to snuff on my research. What I've heard is that they started producing washing machines using Whirlpool USA parts and design. Whirlpool said no no no, those are our patents. Eventually, Inglis bought just 1 patent, that's all Whirlpool would let them have. Consequently, in the early years, Inglis only produced one model of washing machine for quite a while. Whirlpool did eventually come up to Canada which is when they affiliated themselves with Inglis. The Sears Kenmore brands here are basically Whirlpool/Inglis machines but not always. GE have produced some TL washers and dryers marketed under the Kenmore name. For some reason, Whirlpool never really caught on here in Canada. You can find them, but Inglis still far outnumber them. There's alot of trust people put in a name which is what Inglis has in Canada.
Eddy
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Post# 7304-10/21/2001-12:19 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Belt-Slippage Clutch (A810 for sale)
MESSAGE: Maytag A810, TOL for that year, infinite water level, 5 wash/rinse temp combos, 4 wash/spin selections, soak only or soak-to-wash option, extra large capacity, manual lint filter, in-agitator softenter dispenser, bleach dispenser, aqua Power Fin, pre-orbital drive tranny with BELT SLIPPAGE. Pics to follow.
Asking $75. Machine located at Olde Towne Coin Laundry in Woodstock, GA.
-ph
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Post# 7305-10/21/2001-12:41 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
I'M HOME
MESSAGE: Just a brief note to let y'all know I just got home about 1/2 an hour ago. Maybe tomorrow I will feel up to start catching up on posts I';ve missed, but not today. But I at least wanted to let you know I was FINALLY out of the hospital. Moving VERY slowly. Thanks for all the well wishes, prayuers, concern, and the plant sent to me in the Club's name.
Bob
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Post# 7306-10/21/2001-12:53 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'M HOME (Yaaay!)
MESSAGE: Welcome Back!
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Post# 7307-10/21/2001-13:26 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'M HOME (So glad that you are back.)
MESSAGE: Hi Bob, So glad that you are home. Now take good care of yourself and get lots of rest. Terry
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Post# 7308-10/21/2001-14:27 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'M HOME
MESSAGE: I'm glad you are home Bob! Hope you start feeling better real soon.
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Post# 7309-10/21/2001-15:10 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'M HOME
MESSAGE: Glad your home too Bob, continued good recovery!
Eddy
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Post# 7310-10/21/2001-15:53 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'M HOME
MESSAGE: Yay! Bob's home! I'm glad you are out of the hospital and wish you a speedy recovery. I hope they didn't remove any of your wit and humor during surgery. ;-)
Rich
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Post# 7311-10/21/2001-16:10 ||| nmaineman36 (Portland Maine)
SUBJECT:
RE: Belt-Slippage Clutch (Malicious Intent - but I'm here to stay anyway!)
MESSAGE: WOOOOOOOWEEEEEEE! Geez Louise I would hate to get in a cat fight with you Tom. I can see you somehow in my mind moving your head side to side with your finger in the air moving up and down like something from a RuPaul horror movie. My gawd well put I couldnt have said it myself. Maybe Miss Lenny is Rob Gwis or something in disguise. Oh thats so unChristian of me to say that. Meow Meow!
Mike
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Post# 7312-10/21/2001-16:13 ||| nmaineman36 (Portland Maine)
SUBJECT:
RE: Laundry Chemicals Organized with Class!
MESSAGE: Now why in the world would someone want to even do that? I know for myself and not having the brightest of relatives there could be someone having Downy on the rocks. I say keep the stuff in the container it came in..much safer and they are designed for just that SAFETY!
Egads what a yutz!
Mike
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Post# 7313-10/21/2001-16:25 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Belt-Slippage Clutch (Malicious Intent - but I'm here to stay anyway!)
MESSAGE: Nah Mike. It's Julia Sugarbaker. Can't you just imagine the big glasses and the southern drawl?? And this time her dress wasn't stuffed in her pantyhose for all of Atlanta to see.
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Post# 7314-10/21/2001-16:38 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'M HOME
MESSAGE: Glad you are on the mend - - welcome back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post# 7315-10/21/2001-16:41 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Laundry Chemicals Organized with Class!
MESSAGE: Have to agree with you there! I appreciate the aesthetics, but those chemicals are dangerous and even putting them out of reach is no guarantee of safety. But then, I am thinking of my own relatives............ Kind of reminds me of when Couxin Nicky thought that Vim tablets looked like "Sweet Tarts"...............
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Post# 7317-10/21/2001-17:30 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inglis washer
MESSAGE: Eddie, What about the Simpson Sears machines; were they made in Canada by Inglis/WP or imported from the US, not that it really matters so don't bother doing a lot of research if you are unsure. TT
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Post# 7319-10/21/2001-18:01 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inglis washer
MESSAGE: Tom I'm sure they were made by Inglis/WP Canada. Sears also marketed a wringer washer well into the 80's and Beatty (GSW) made that model for them but with the Kenmore name. It was the thing about "buying Canadian".
Eddy
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Post# 7320-10/21/2001-20:21 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'M HOME
MESSAGE: Hi Bob, I'm so glad you're back home safe and sound. Feel better soon, we missed you.
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Post# 7321-10/21/2001-20:38 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Apex Wash-a-matic)
MESSAGE: On the subject of Apex Dish-a-matic. Is the Apex Wash-a-matic the famed "bouncing basket" washer? If so, how was it supposed to work? The basket goes up and down?
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Post# 7322-10/21/2001-20:48 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Laundry Chemicals Organized with Class! (Downy on the rocks (humor))
MESSAGE: After I snort a few lines of Tide Mountain Spring, I take a shot of Clorox and chase it down with a cool glass of Downy. My insides feel nice and clean.
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Post# 7323-10/21/2001-21:28 ||| sue b (Minneapolis, MN)
SUBJECT:
Whirlpool dryer--does anyone want it?
MESSAGE: I have an OLD Whirlpool electric dryer that still works! It is model #AD-20 Serial # 41019 and manuafacturer's number 521820. It came with this house(owned by a 98 year old woman who couldn't remember when she bought it) and I needed a dryer with a permanent press cycle so I bought a new one. I contacted Whirlpool to see if they could tell me the approximate age--their archives go back to 1948 and they couldn't find it. It sure doesn't look that old, maybe from the 50's so they suggested it might have been bought in Canada. It's white and has some discoloration on the top, but otherwise it looks pretty good. I thought I would post here to see if anyone is interested in it before I pay to advertise it. I'd like to see it go to a good home! You may e-mail me at: cars@carlover.org I live in Minneapolis, MN
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Post# 7324-10/21/2001-21:55 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'M HOME
MESSAGE: Good to hear you are home - take care of yourself and watch your prescribed diet!! Glad to have you back on the forum again!
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Post# 7325-10/21/2001-22:09 ||| jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
NIce Dasher UNi But??
MESSAGE: Nice Dasher Uni but I think my machine must be broken as its dashing counter clock wise!!!
love jetcone
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Post# 7326-10/21/2001-22:10 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: NIce Dasher UNi But??
MESSAGE: I'm going to slap you mister, after I get through fixing my backwards animation. Can't slip anything by you can I?
KER-SLAP
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Post# 7327-10/21/2001-22:13 ||| jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: NIce Dasher UNi But?? (AWOUCH!!!)
MESSAGE: With all those KER SLAPS headed my way------Its getting painful here in Boston! I'm moving to a secret location--before something goes KaBoom in Boston!
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Post# 7328-10/21/2001-22:14 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: NIce Dasher UNi But?? (AWOUCH!!!)
MESSAGE: There it's dashing counter-clockwise, happy now missy!
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Post# 7329-10/21/2001-22:17 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: NIce Dasher UNi But?? (AWOUCH!!!)
MESSAGE: I'm singing in the Rain just singing in the rain......
dashing in the rain---
la tee da la tee da.................
signed--
counter-clocker in undisclosed location
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Post# 7330-10/21/2001-22:44 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: NIce Dasher UNi But??
MESSAGE: How about a window in the lid?
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Post# 7331-10/21/2001-23:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool dryer--does anyone want it?
MESSAGE: Hi Sue,
I too live in Minneapolis. Click on the blue link below to see a picture of my 1952 Whirlpool washer. Does your vintage Whirlpool dryer look like a match to my washer. The Whirlpool is the washer that is next to the yellow dishwasher?...
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/unimatic1140/vwp?.dir=/1+-+Me+%26+My+Collection&.dnm=The+Address++-+1+Belt+Drive.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 7332-10/21/2001-23:13 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: NIce Dasher UNi But??
MESSAGE: Oh don't worry, a window is on the way, along with a few other goodies.
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Post# 7333-10/21/2001-23:19 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: NIce Dasher UNi But?? (Rotational Differences?)
MESSAGE: Unless things have gone seriously awry in Texas, which isn't outside the realm of possibility, I still see the ABC dasher as moving clockwise, as from looking down upon it. I even stopped the Flash animation, then moved it forward one frame at a time -- clockwise.
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Post# 7334-10/21/2001-23:24 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
Whirlpool Calypso w/ window
MESSAGE: We were in Best Buy today and I wandered through the appliance department. They had a new model Frigidaire Gallery front loader which looked nice...different knobs and cycles (moving to Maytag's "whites", "colors", and "delicate/short" cycles-as-you-sort thing). It had a speed selector and signal on-off. Looking more like a Frigmore these days. They also had an economy model with one dial.
I was hoping to see the Whirlpool Duet, but they didn't have it. They did however have a Calypso with an oval window in the lid. I'm sure it was a display/demo model, but it really looked great. They should consider offering it as an option. Don't they know people want to see that new wash action??! (At least the people I know around this club...ha!)
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Post# 7335-10/21/2001-23:36 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: NIce Dasher UNi But?? (Hmm . . . Ahhhhh)
MESSAGE: Now it IS going counter-clockwise.
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Post# 7336-10/21/2001-23:47 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Laundry Chemicals Organized with Class! (Downy on the rocks (humor))
MESSAGE: Yes, but you haven't really lived until you've ridden the STPP horse...
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Post# 7337-10/22/2001-03:05 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'M HOME
MESSAGE: I hope you will be feeling better real soon!
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Post# 7338-10/22/2001-03:10 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Calypso w/ window
MESSAGE: I haven't had a chance to see the Calypso in action yet. Does it stop washing when the lid is raised? Kenmore and Whirlpool always washed kept washing when the lid was raised. I hope they didn't start messing with that now!
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Post# 7339-10/22/2001-03:15 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: WOW Robert;
Great Whirlpool washer! Don't worry about the steps, call a professional moving company! Go for it! I would ! (lol)
"Brooklyn Robert"
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Post# 7340-10/22/2001-07:13 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool dryer--does anyone want it?
MESSAGE: Robert - I have been meaning to write you to say thanks for the GE wing - - really great!! Also, I have to commend you on your repeated "scores" of vintage detergents at estate sales. I am wondering if this is just a Minneapolis or Midwest phenom. I have been to hundreds of estate sales here in CT and have come up empty in the detergent and washer categories. However, I have seen tons of old board games, old stained table linens and more than my share of useless Popiel gadgets - "kitchen magician", "ro-tato" and my personal favourite - - the stovetop grill that helps you prepare foods that are "lower in saturated fat" because the food sits on the grill ridges above the bottom of the pan and therefore are not "saturated in fat". So, unless I want to bid on ebay and pay up to $75. for a small box of Duz Soap (honest - that was an actual price for one) I may just have to "go Midwest, young (??) man.......
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Post# 7341-10/22/2001-07:14 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool dryer--does anyone want it?
MESSAGE: Oh, yes and one more thing - - go get the Whirlpool washer. It's beautiful! Want me to come and help you carry it?????
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Post# 7342-10/22/2001-07:58 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Laundry Chemicals Organized with Class! (Wow man)
MESSAGE: That's some hard sh*t dude. Let's go sniff some Ariel.
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Post# 7343-10/22/2001-08:29 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (what a sale )
MESSAGE: whooa - what a sale - John & Tom have the same '55 whirlpool in the Museum. And it is to bad the Apex DW didn't have a Window.
Peter
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Post# 7344-10/22/2001-08:46 ||| geodon2000 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'M HOME
MESSAGE: bob...
so glad to hear you are home...
you have been in our thoughts...
george
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Post# 7345-10/22/2001-09:10 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'M HOME
MESSAGE: Rich, it appears they didn't remove any of my wit or humor during surgery. However, I now have less intestinal fortitude to endure others' bad puns and jokes (LOL). I probably also loss even more of what little guts I have to face new, daunting social situations as I am quite honestly painfully shy in new environments.
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Post# 7346-10/22/2001-09:15 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'M HOME
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg. And YES, I am being EXTREMELY careful with the prescribed diet. Hey, you can't beat having Cream of Wheat and a small bowl of vanilla ice cream for breakfast. Also, lots of water, cranberry, & apple juice. In about 4 days I mya try to have some Chicken Noodle soup. I'm dying for a piece of pasta. But in time. For what I've been through, I'm treading very carefully
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Post# 7347-10/22/2001-09:24 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool dryer--does anyone want it?
MESSAGE: Hi Anthony. Do you go to the sales every weekend or do you just go every once in a while? The reason I ask is I don't always find vintage detergents, but since I go every weekend there is a better chance of me finding this stuff over time.
Since you live in Connecticut, there should be basements where people save lots of stuff, but I see you live in Fairfield and you are close to the Atlantic coast where the weather is more humid. Maybe the increased humidity degrades cardboard boxes so people have no choice but to throw them away after a few years. Our weather here in Minneapolis is much less humid than what I remember growing up in New Jersey, so fragile things such as cardboard boxes tend to stay in better shape over the years.
The population here is also more Northern European descent (Swedish and Norwegian), which I've been told that this older generation was raised to save everything, which makes for fantastic estate sales.
These ideas are only my opinion, but I’m sure there are lots of other factors involved too which makes a region good for vintage appliance and detergent hunting. Having basements definitely is a key factor though.
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Post# 7348-10/22/2001-09:26 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'M HOME
MESSAGE: Welcome back, Bob! Hope you are resting easy and well on the road to recovery!
-ph
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Post# 7349-10/22/2001-09:27 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool dryer--does anyone want it? (The Whirlpool Stays)
MESSAGE: The reason I decided to let that washer go was not that fact that it would have been difficult job, it was the fact that it would be a dangerous job. The steps were falling apart and didn't appear to be structually sound. The washer was beautiful, and in great shape, but it wasn't worth having anyone get hurt.
Now if it was an Apex I would have hired a crane to take it out, but it wasn't.
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Post# 7350-10/22/2001-09:31 ||| geodon2000 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: hi rich...
actually, the water level is just above the boot...you would incur a very minor spill if you opened the door mid-stream...however, that has never been an issue for me...a small sacrifice for the extra water...i would guess that it could be adjusted just a tad lower if desired...
right now, i have the wisk he liquid, tide he liquid, fresh start, and the surf tablets...
i don't like the wisk he, as it seems to fade the dark colors...
nixing the surf tabs also, as they dissolve slowly even though they are placed directly in the tub...
the tide he liquid and fresh start are ok...
excessive sudsing has not been an issue with any, since the water level has been increased...
i love to experiment with different brands of detergent, especially since the rinsing has improved...not sure what's next...
george
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Post# 7351-10/22/2001-10:21 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: Hello George, I really like the Wisk tablets. Fine suds control and great cleaning, but they do contain an oxygen bleach so you might not want to use on darks. I like powder Tide HE; very low suds and good rinsing. TT
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Post# 7352-10/22/2001-10:44 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'M HOME (Feel Better)
MESSAGE: Hi Bob,
I am glad you are back. God Bless you and I hope you feel better real soon.
Peter
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Post# 7353-10/22/2001-11:57 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (HEY Wait a minute)
MESSAGE: I didn't realize that Wisk tablets contain oxygen Bleach! I better be careful using them in the Front Loaders with dark clothes!
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Post# 7354-10/22/2001-12:10 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool dryer--does anyone want it? (Estate Sale Contents)
MESSAGE: I too, have been amazed at what people save in their basements, closets and attics. Some of the best sales are usually always in older neighborhoods with homes 50+ years of age. Some of these remind me of my grandparents house that was stuffed with things they had saved since they were married in the depression - they really did save everything from small appliances to furniture. Too bad we didn't have a use for the 5000 margarine tubs!
It's been a long time since I've been to farm & home auctions, but usually those are crammed with things too. I wish I'd started my appliance collection years ago as I'd have a warehouse full by now, I'm sure.
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Post# 7355-10/22/2001-12:14 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (HEY Wait a minute)
MESSAGE: Neither did I - that'll teach me to read the box! I haven't tried the tablets in the front loaders, usually I stick to Calgon and Sears HE or Tide HE. I'm still trying to find STPP or a phosphate additive here, but no luck so far.
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Post# 7356-10/22/2001-12:28 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (HEY Wait a minute)
MESSAGE: Robert, the bleaching ingredient is sodium perborate, a very mild oxygen bleach that needs high temps to really bleach, according to the Maytag Encyclopedia of Homo Laundry, p. 24. I guess it is there for white loads in hot water, maybe.
From pg. 23:
Javelle water, a form of liquid chlorine bleach, is interesting historically because it was the first kind sold commercially. It is currently in use in Canada and Western Europe as a home bleaching agent, but never became a common laundry aid in the US.
A French chemist Berthollet discovered in 1789 that by adding caustic potash to a chlorine gas and water solution, he could obtain an effective bleach. This chlorinated potash (potassium hypochlorite, KCIO) was marketed by an entrepreneur named Javelle and came to be commonly known as eau de javel, or javelle water. It differs from common liquid bleach in that it is a potassium, instead of sodium compound and is usually sold at a higher strength.
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Post# 7357-10/22/2001-13:39 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (HEY Wait a minute)
MESSAGE: Thanks Tom, that was interesting. So, I take it then its safe to use Wisk tables with colors in FL's as long as the water is cool or cold?
My Westinghouse slant-front has been converted to Hot/Warm/Cold (instead of Hot/Med/Warm) and the Whirlpool and Philco FL's already have the cold option. The little Bendix has only Hot/Warm, but I wouldn't dream of washing clothes in that machine for other reasons, mainly poor rinsing.
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Post# 7358-10/22/2001-14:18 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: Hi Tom,
Do you use one or two Wisk tablets when you use one of your front loaders?
Rich
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Post# 7359-10/22/2001-14:26 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool dryer--does anyone want it?
MESSAGE: Hey Robert - I do go every weekend, but I think you are correct - the humidity here is probably a huge factor. I had forgotten about that. I would have thought though, that the Yankee frugality here would result at least in some finds.................... oh, well!!
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Post# 7360-10/22/2001-14:28 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: TT - do you think the wisk tabs smell a bit strong? I tend to prefer the scents of the surf tabs - but they are not aveilable here yet.....
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Post# 7361-10/22/2001-15:28 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (HEY Wait a minute)
MESSAGE: Tom,
Where did you find a copy of the Maytag Encyclopedia? I called Maytag but of course it's no longer available from them. They offered me something called "The Lowdown on Laundry", but I declined since I didn't want something that sounds like advice in a back alley ;-).
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Post# 7362-10/22/2001-15:39 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (Baby Bendix)
MESSAGE: Yeah, Robert and poor washing to boot. Consumer Reports said it was amazing that in spite of how poorly it performed, it sold so well. It just showed how much women wanted to be free of the labor intensive task of laundry. Of course, you could always fill it with a hose through the soap trap to get a cool wash. Tom
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Post# 7363-10/22/2001-15:48 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: Rich, my frontloaders are babies and don't hold enough clothes to need a full tablet; more like 1/3. Maybe with the Duet, when and if, I will use a full tablet, but I am puzzled by the fact that these detergents don't say to use less in a FL than a regular TL. Even All, Dash and AD used to tell you to do that. When you see how little water these FLs use to rinse, I just wonder what kind of detergent build up I would be getting. I use half the recommended amt of detergent and a little less than a quarter cup of Calgon in the wash and then some Calgon in a rinse. Seems to work, no itchy bottom here. Alas, no detergent perfume from the dryer vent, either. Happy day, Tom
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Post# 7364-10/22/2001-15:53 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (WISK tablets)
MESSAGE: Anthony, like I just wrote Rich, I use less than they recommend and rinse like hell, hence my title Rinsing Queen, so I don't get strong perfume from the detergent in the clothes. With the FLs, the detergent perfume really can't be detected during wash, so sorry, I dunno. I don't think the Wisk has an unpleasant fragrance, though.
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Post# 7365-10/22/2001-16:13 ||| Lenny (Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Laundry Chemicals Organized with Class! (Safety First)
MESSAGE: Believe it or not I got the Idea of putting laundry chemicals in nice bottles/jars from watching an episode of Martha Stewart(No, I dont watch here regularly! lolol).
While it might seem unsafe, its not at all in my case. My shelving unit is two feet above my washer/dryer alcove in a deep shelf. To top it off, there are rarely children in my home and when they are Im always present. Im certain there is NO WAY for any accident to happen there unless a tall adult wants to reach over my washer to my laundry shelf to pour themselves a glass of Downy....I think NOT!
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Post# 7366-10/22/2001-16:18 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (HEY Wait a minute)
MESSAGE: Ricardo, Don't you know that everything has to be made to appeal to the lowest common denominator in society these days? G-d forbid you should give any evedence of education or refinement when putting something before the masses. It used to be that people aspired up, now the opposite. There, now that I am down off the soap box, my edition is the 4th and inside the front cover is a stamp that says, "Compliments of Woodward & Lothrop" a department store here is the DC area, now gone. I used to go there to look at the appliances when my whole household was in storage and I was living in a furnished efficiency. I have seen earlier versions, but at present, this is the only one I am sure I have. I hated Maytag for so long, I probably did not pick up any of the others. Anyway, this version is dated 1973. The cover price is 50 cents. What is so ironic, is that under Automatic Washers in the Washing action section, it says, "There are two basic principles of washing action. One is the agitation principle found in the overwhelming majority of automatics. In effect, the agitator forces the water through the clothes (remember Maytags did not move clothes very well). The tumbler principle, used on one brand of automatic washer and formerly used on combination washer-dryers, forces the clothes through the water. Top loading agitator washers generally handle larger loads; front-loading tumbler machines use less water and detergent." It would be a long time before Maytag would almost claim to have invented the horizontal axis washer. I keep looking out for other versions of this at flea maarkets, estate sales and the like. The first edition came out in 1965, the 2nd in 66, the 3rd in 69. TT
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Post# 7367-10/22/2001-16:22 ||| Lenny (Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT:
Organized
MESSAGE: Anyway, the shelf really does look oraganized and nice, Its in a place that is very visable. I might have some louvre doors made and placed to enclose the shelf, that might look better yet. So yell at Martha if you dont like the idea!
Lenny
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Post# 7368-10/22/2001-16:57 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Organized
MESSAGE: Take a pic of it!
My laundry supplies are in a closed cabinet. A bottle of Clorox sprung a leak somehow a few years ago, and I didn't realize it until there was already some damage to the wood on that side of the cabinet. Not a particularly big deal, it didn't get all the way through, and can't been seen with the cabinet closed anyway.
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Post# 7369-10/22/2001-17:09 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Golittlesport:
Actually, the Westinghouse F/L washer that Uni was checking out last Saturday was either a 1976 or a 1977 model. It was also a "White-Westinghouse". In fact, that was the one that was in Pearl Bailey's commercial. Remember that commerical?? That particular model was Westinghouse's top of the line model that year. If I don't say so myself, that was a pretty machine that year. It is also unusual to see a Westy with dispensers on the top. But that one did have them.
Now, about the first Whirlpool "Surgilator" agitator?? My guess is that it made its first appearance in 1956 or 1957 (about the same time we saw the first Super Roto Swirl inside of the 1957 Lady Kenmore). That's my guess. But of course, Uni will steer us the right way on this one.
--Charles--
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Post# 7370-10/22/2001-17:43 ||| sue b (Minneapolis, MN)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool dryer--does anyone want it?
MESSAGE: Yes, that's the dryer I have. I hope someone sees it and wants it. I need to clean out my basement. Please, someone save it from the alley junkman!
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Post# 7371-10/22/2001-18:53 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
Whirlpool/Kenmore/KA microwave OTR recall
MESSAGE: If anyone here has an over-the-range microwave with serial number starting with "XC", go to Whirlpool's web site for info on the product recall.
LINK: http://www.whirlpool.com/
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Post# 7372-10/22/2001-19:13 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
FRIG vs. MORE (a question)
MESSAGE: OK, I just came back from a furniture store that also sells the entire Frigidaire line. They had a FRIGmore for $529. This was the model with the Buzzer on/off switch and front mounted controls. Is there much difference between this and the $699 Kenmore version? I can't really justify paying extra $170 just because the other washer says "Kenmore" on it.
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Post# 7373-10/22/2001-19:14 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool/Kenmore/KA microwave OTR recall (Welcome back!)
MESSAGE: I forgot to say this earlier. Welcome back Bob! I'm glad you're getting better.
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Post# 7374-10/22/2001-19:29 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool/Kenmore/KA microwave OTR recall
MESSAGE: Thanks Bob. I just so happen to have one of those bad boys.
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Post# 7375-10/22/2001-19:41 ||| nmaineman36 (Portland Maine)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: I use Clorox 2 which is an oxygen bleach and dont notice any color change at all on my darks. I also use the Wisk Tabs and Surf Tabs and dont notice any difference in color change. Unless your water is highly chlorinated by the city then you would have fading. I dont have that problem here since we use ozone to sanitize the water instead of chlorine. Betcha didnt think we would have that here in Maine but we do and flushing toilets and electricity. I dont know how many people asked me that when I lived in the Midwest.
Mike
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Post# 7376-10/22/2001-19:41 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: Tom,
Detergent amounts in a front loader are *supposed* to be more related to laundry and soil load than to water amount. That's in part because the detergent is expected to solubilize and hold in solution the various types of foreign substances that soil laundry. Because a front loader's action encourages more sudsing action through its greater air/water interface, one *must* use less of a regular detergent to avoid over-sudsing. This may not be enough to deal with heavy soil loads. With a proper HE detergent, sudsing should be controlled enough to allow the correct amount of detergent based on soil load. Your results may vary ;-).
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Post# 7377-10/22/2001-19:43 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool/Kenmore/KA microwave OTR recall
MESSAGE: WP doesn't even have the parts yet to fix the problem so they just have to sit unplugged. Bad news.
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Post# 7378-10/22/2001-19:45 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Organized
MESSAGE: I had the same problem with a big jug of Clorox in a bathroom under-sink cabinet. It had a month or two to got to work, and it turned the plywood underneath into a sort of jelly. I dosed it with vinegar to try to stop the action, but now a deep round groove is burnt into the wood. Luckily it can't be seen with the doors closed. Someday I'll just cut another piece of plywood, paint it, and lay it over the dmaged portion.
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Post# 7379-10/22/2001-19:46 ||| nmaineman36 (Portland Maine)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: Angus if you head to your local Target store..and CT isnt all that big to find several that have just opened...they carry the Surf Tablets and for $4.99 a box its a good deal. I am sure you can find one near you. They opened a Target in Meridan CT and if you go to their website Target.com they can tell you where to find a store in your area. Its worth the drive. Or do I have to drive down there and hand you a box...hmmmm?
Mike
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Post# 7380-10/22/2001-19:48 ||| nmaineman36 (Portland Maine)
SUBJECT:
RE: Laundry Chemicals Organized with Class! (Safety First)
MESSAGE: But you know Lenny you never know.It could happen or you might forget what it is in there. But if you like it Miss Martha-style then knock yourself out!
Mike
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Post# 7381-10/22/2001-19:50 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: FRIG vs. MORE (a question)
MESSAGE: The Kenmore *may* have a higher final spin speed. The Frigidaire *may not* have ATC (automatic temperature control). The Kenmore will have more sound-proofing. If the F's spin speed is over 1,000 and it has ATC, you might go for it.
Someone who is a Frimore expert might be able to help you by comparing model numbers. Even within the Kenmore/frigmore lineup, features vary by model number.
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Post# 7382-10/22/2001-19:51 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool/Kenmore/KA microwave OTR recall
MESSAGE: Yeah, but they give you 100 bucks towards a replacement until they get the parts. It's a damn good thing, I need something to warm my coffee with and my hot flashes just won't cut it.
Maybe John should contact Whirlpool and he can supply everyone with a loaner microwave.
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Post# 7383-10/22/2001-20:07 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'M HOME
MESSAGE: Welcome home! Hope you get to feeling better soon.
SD
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Post# 7384-10/22/2001-20:11 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool/Kenmore/KA microwave OTR recall
MESSAGE: I know several people with these units. What is the problem with them? I heard on the Today show Wednesday A.M. that 2 million were being recalled, but all I caught of the problem was a possibility of them bursting into flames.
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Post# 7385-10/22/2001-20:25 ||| jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool dryer--does anyone want it? (Other "
factors"
outside of opinion...)
MESSAGE: 1)the ability to CLAW your way into the house while throwing off your friends outside with a ruse like "don't come in this one she died of anthrax".
2)keeping the street plan of Minneapolis a state secret
3)being smaller of stature than some of us which enables you to see the ground and whats on it more quickly!
4) definetly being from New York!
5) upon seeing the "find" across the room the ability to shout "YAY!" to the whole crowd adn claim the prize from across the room.
anonymous abc collector..............
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Post# 7386-10/22/2001-20:26 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: FRIG vs. MORE (a question)
MESSAGE: I know for a fact the Frigidaire didn't have ATC. I just looked at the Frigidaire website and saw the model #FWT449. I'm sure this is what I saw at the store. I'm going to bring this up at THS and see what the Frigmore enthusiasts say :-).
Thanks for the help.
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Post# 7387-10/22/2001-20:28 ||| jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (HEY Wait a minute)
MESSAGE: What??/ Then tell me what is Snowy Bleach for??? My lilly whites???
jetcone
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Post# 7388-10/22/2001-20:31 ||| jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: Hi Rich!!!
I sometimes use two in my Laundromat if the clothes are really dirty. But one usally does the job.
I still use grated Fels Naptha though for most jobs in the Westy!
jet
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Post# 7389-10/22/2001-20:46 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (Baby Bendix)
MESSAGE: You could also set the washer to warm and and turn off the hot water supply!
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Post# 7390-10/22/2001-20:48 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (WISK tablets)
MESSAGE: Appreciate the feedback, TT - just thought I would ask. I have an Amana top loader and limit my use to two for a full load and rinse twice. But my problem is more of an overly sensitive nose, so things that don't bother others may be too much for me. I agree the Wisk tabs' fragrance is not unpleasant, just somewhat strong. Perhaps I should try a third rinse...................
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Post# 7391-10/22/2001-20:50 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Laundry Chemicals Organized with Class! (Safety First)
MESSAGE: Then you should be safe... Like I said, my relatives are a breed apart, so I never know what to expect in the way of behavior..................
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Post# 7392-10/22/2001-20:53 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Organized
MESSAGE: I wouldn't even dream of yelling at Martha. I have met her at fund raisers here in CT, she is very visible in our area and she is quite a formidable presence. Besides she could probably take me or most others on in a minute!
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Post# 7393-10/22/2001-20:53 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Organized
MESSAGE: You could also put some floor tile or linoleum in the bottom. I've always have the installers put a piece put under my sink when they lay a new floor it matches when you open the doors and is very durable, they have to cut out that part for the floor around the sink anyway, saves on waste!
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Post# 7394-10/22/2001-20:57 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: Would you?????????????????? And bring down some of that ABC from Canada that smells like Fab before all that lemon freshened nonsense!!!!
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Post# 7395-10/22/2001-20:59 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: FRIG vs. MORE (a question)
MESSAGE: I am almost sure that I heard that the new Frigidaires that are not yet shown on their website (what a surprise!!!)will have ATC............. Anyone to confirm????????????
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Post# 7396-10/22/2001-21:01 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool/Kenmore/KA microwave OTR recall
MESSAGE: Not to be macabre, but the bursting into flames part sounds like some of my friends.............
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Post# 7397-10/22/2001-21:04 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: Jet - how do you like the grated Fels performance in the Westinghouse? Kind of makes me miss Instant Fels...............
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Post# 7398-10/22/2001-21:13 ||| Lenny (Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Laundry Chemicals Organized with Class! (relatives!)
MESSAGE: Angus:
I know what you mean....are'nt most relatives 'a breed apart'! LoLoL
Lenny
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Post# 7399-10/22/2001-21:29 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Laundry Chemicals Organized with Class! (relatives!)
MESSAGE: Yes, but it's the breed that scares me
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Post# 7400-10/22/2001-21:44 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (Baby Bendix)
MESSAGE: Hi Robert, that process wont work with vintage thermostatic water valves. The valve would sense that the water is too cold and it would close off the cold side off valve and open the hot side valve wide open calling for more hot water (which was turned off). All you would get would be a little dribble of water coming in.
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Post# 7401-10/22/2001-22:55 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: FRIG vs. MORE (a question)
MESSAGE: Good idea!
Offhand, I'd say that if you do a lot of warm washes, or if your cold water gets really cold, then ATC might be a good idea. Me, I rarely if ever do cold washes, and I probably do more hot washes than warm, so if the price is right the Frigmore might be the sweet deal. You might also want to check a Sears outlet, tho.
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Post# 7402-10/22/2001-22:59 ||| jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: Hi Angus:
I love the grated Fels. It smells so fresh and cleans great and it leaves the clothes soft so you don't have to use fabric softener. If you want to do some heavy bleaching you can add that right at the start of the wash with the Fels. I never travel without it.
Do you have a Westy slant front?
Jon
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Post# 7403-10/22/2001-00:23 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: Jon - How much do you use for a regular Westy load. I bought a bar and haven't tried it yet.
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Post# 7404-10/22/2001-00:24 ||| washrfreak (dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: FRIG vs. MORE (a question)
MESSAGE: It's pretty easy to tell if the Frigidaire has ATC or not. If it doesn't it will have 4 water temp settings. If it does it will have more and be divided into two groups: manual and automatic. I have seen a new Frigidaire with ATC (as well as the Kenmore).
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Post# 7405-10/22/2001-00:31 ||| washrfreak (dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (Homo Laundry?)
MESSAGE: I didn't know there was a difference in laundry methodology based on sexual orientation - much less a manual for it. Do you get that at the recruiting center?
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Post# 7406-10/22/2001-01:40 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Be careful what you wish for...
MESSAGE: ...you might just get it! :-)
Well, here I am. It's nice to be back. I have to say I have been very touched by and appreciative of the outpouring of concern for me. I have received many emails asking after my welfare and where I have been, so I thought perhaps it was time for a reappearance. I don't know how long it's been, but I want everyone to know I am still "here" and have been (for the most part) well. This time has not been without its issues for me, the vast majority of which can be traced to the events of Sept. 11, but I've been working hard to keep my head above water, and I'm determined not to let it hamper in the long run the personal journey I have been on for some time.
Some of you are aware that I have grown disgruntled with the antics of and am no longer visiting some other clubs and forums abound. The main thing I want everyone here to know is that my hiatus from this club has been for no such reason, and I am so very pleased that by and large we have such a wonderful group here that gets on so well and that our club continues to thrive. I appreciate you all and am glad to count you amongst my friends. Welcome to any new members I've missed along the way too!
Well, that's enough about me. I've been poking about and checking out some of the museum pictures and it's fun to see everyone's submissions and the "new" animated ABC on the front page! (Yes Robert G I have indeed now seen your Whirlpool washers in the museum!) Far as reading posts, "catching up" of course may be a challenge, though I've checked out a few through archives tonight and I can do a few here and there, but by and large I will probably start in a forward direction.
Today was my first day of work in our new building, and I spent a lot of time walking around in circles and bumping into walls. Things are kind of a mess at present (except my desk of course!) :-), but it is a nice, well-decorated building and nice location and I will be very happy working there. We have stainless steel Amana refrigerators (but the sides are black, don't know what's up with that!) and Asko dishwashers. The refrigerators have drawer style freezers like a Subzero, which I really like. I love new toys even if they aren't mine!
Well, sorry to be longwinded, but I haven't used up any space in a while! LOL I look forward to interacting with everyone again soon.
Scott
P.S. Peteski sorry, thanks for your calls I will be in touch soon.
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Post# 7407-10/23/2001-02:17 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: Jon, where on earth do you get the Fels? I have never seen it here in recent years.
Eddy
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Post# 7408-10/23/2001-02:28 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: Hi Eddy, some of the groceries here in Minnesota, including the one I go to, still carry it. I haven't seen the boxed powder style in a long while, but I still see the bars. Scott
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Post# 7409-10/23/2001-05:23 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: WCDN instructions--not a booklet, just a sheet
MESSAGE: Tom, what a wonderful way to begin to "catch up". Great scans. Proud of ya!!!. You have learned so quickly. I look forward to a plethora of more treats, youu gotta have tons.
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Post# 7410-10/23/2001-05:46 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Read messages
MESSAGE: Steve, Ihave the exact same scenario. So, I always log in before i begin reading posts. It's a pain in the ***, but I hate getting the dread OOB message if I reply and haven't logged in.
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Post# 7411-10/23/2001-06:11 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
POD HP DW
MESSAGE: It's funny, I have a deluxe portable HP DW with the newer style adjustable top rack and the little blue turret on top of the tower in the middle of the lower rack but it still recommends facing everything in the upper rack toward the center to catch that spray, just like the racks in the POD machine forced you to do. You had to do that with the impeller machine and this machine used the same top rack. I guess that was how the little turret was able to wash stuff in the top rack if you put bowls and pans in the lower rack and blocked the water coming up from the black Bakelite washarm. BTW, still home today!!! YAY, but gotta dust. ugh. Tom
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Post# 7412-10/23/2001-06:22 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: No, Unfortunately I have yet to score a vintage machine - but my daily workhorse is a TL Amana, which I am quite happy with. But I do get tired of grating those Fels Naptha bars - and with the price of those bars, the cost per wash is kind of high!
Anthony
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Post# 7413-10/23/2001-06:24 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Be careful what you wish for...
MESSAGE: Glad you're back Scott - - I hope everything is OK.
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Post# 7414-10/23/2001-06:28 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: Eddy - Fels Naptha bars are available in almost every supermarket here in the Northeast. If you cannot find it in Vancouver, try the Dial website (www.Dial.com). There is a section where you can order "hard to find" items. Fels Naptha bars,LaFrance Bluing/Brightener and 20 Mule Team Borax are some of the items available through mail order. That should help you....... NO one should want for a particular laundry product in my book!
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Post# 7415-10/23/2001-06:32 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: Scott - sadly, Instant Fels powder disappeared some time ago. And before it even disapeared, Purex/Dial changed the formula. It was no longer "Fels Naptha Soap Granules". It had been changed to a detergent which did not look, smell or perform anything like the Instant Fels I remember. I guess that the idea of laundering in "soap" was so "old fashioned" that no one produces it anymore. Even Ivory Snow is no longer a soap, but a detergent product. Sigh.................
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Post# 7416-10/23/2001-06:39 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: Ricardo, I know that you are saying the samething as the WP training guy told us and it is what the detergent makers recommend, but they have always said to use way more than our water and soil conditions warranted. And if a big dirty load needed that much detergent, how well would all of that get rinsed out? It sounds like a high concentration, especially since the Duet and Hettie service manuals say that if they fill with 10 gallons of water and the water level switch does not trip, the thing goes into flood mode and empties. It seems funny that in a TL with more water it does not say to use more detergent. The concentration in the water would have to be lower. I use a full scoop of regular Wisk powder in my KitchenAid with a load of clothes large enough to need the full water level, along with some borax and some oxygen bleach, but it takes two deep rinses (and some spraying) to get it out. Calgon in the first rinse makes suds. I know what you are saying is what "they" say, but I am still wondering. Tom
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Post# 7417-10/23/2001-06:42 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Laundry Chemicals Organized with Class! (Safety First)
MESSAGE: I am surprised Miss Martha did not have custom made medallions on chains to go around the various decanters and containers to label them. TT
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Post# 7418-10/23/2001-06:46 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: More Duet stuff (Tall tub washability)
MESSAGE: Tom, what other things were mentioned in this service update regarding the washability? The machie has such great potential. Wonder who long it will take for a redesign.
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Post# 7419-10/23/2001-06:48 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
Turbo--email
MESSAGE: Tom, did you get my email yesterday?
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Post# 7420-10/23/2001-06:50 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool/Kenmore/KA microwave OTR recall
MESSAGE: What's a hundred dollars when you have something builtin over the stove and connected to a vent? These corporations make me sick with their pathetic offers to customers when it was the corporate decision to make the things in China as cheaply as possible. My first WP over the stove MW went through magnetrons like they were free and disposable and it took two people to lift the damn thing down to replace that stuff. The first mag was under warranty for parts and thanks to John, labor did not cost that much since I was able to help lift the thing, but when it went through the second one and was out of warranty, although brand new looking, WP said no way were they going to do anything about it. I was glad to have the faithful old Amana still in the kitchen on the counter. And that was a Korean made MW.
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Post# 7421-10/23/2001-06:52 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool/Kenmore/KA microwave OTR recall
MESSAGE: Isn't that enough? Sorry, the recall said something about them overheating, but I don't know the particulars. TT
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Post# 7422-10/23/2001-07:01 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (Baby Bendix)
MESSAGE: Sometimes with older machines with a still-functioning thermostatic water valve, that does not work because it will try to warm the cold with hot to the extent that it will go all the way to hot to fill, shutting down the cold and filling with nothing if the hot is turned off. And those machines used a very warm warm because you were dealing with soap in those days and you had to keep soap suds warm enough to keep the soap melted and dissolved or the whole mess solidified and went back into the clothing fibers like glue.
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Post# 7423-10/23/2001-07:10 ||| washrfreak (dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: Well, I hate to side with Them, but this time I think that They are right. If I remember correctly from my college chemistry, many detergent ingredients work by attaching to the dirt and to the water so it can be washed away. For example, one detergent molecule will attach to an oil molecule in the clothes and the other side will attach to a water molecule. It stands to reason then that you need as many detergent molecules as dirt molecules. So it's a function of dirt not of water amount.
I can say that before the HE detergents came out (and after most of the low sudsing detergents disappeared) I used reduced amounts of regular detergent in my FL. Over time everything became very dingy. I don't have that problem with a full doese of an HE detergent.
I remember my mother telling me that if the water doesn't feel slick between your fingers, you don't have enough detergent. Checking it that way, it does seem to work out to be a function of load and dirt size. It seems to happen right about at the full dose level (more for dirty, big loads). My rule of thumb is to watch the window - I make sure that during the pauses a few bubbles (not suds) appear on the window.
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Post# 7424-10/23/2001-07:11 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (WISK tablets)
MESSAGE: Or maybe a little warm water mixed in with the cold to drive off some of the fragrance? Is it that they smell strong when wet, or after drying? Do you use softener on anything? TT
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Post# 7425-10/23/2001-07:31 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (Homo Laundry?)
MESSAGE: ROFLMAOTIMEPMP Loved it. You are funny.
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Post# 7426-10/23/2001-07:33 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: email ettiquette?
MESSAGE: I simply use a fake email address when i post at THS. Bob
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Post# 7427-10/23/2001-07:33 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Be careful what you wish for...
MESSAGE: YAY! WELCOME BACK SCOTT! tt
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Post# 7428-10/23/2001-07:35 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: WCDN instructions--not a booklet, just a sheet
MESSAGE: Thank Jason, he walked me through it, more like helped guide my walker. TT
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Post# 7429-10/23/2001-07:46 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: More Duet stuff (Tall tub washability)
MESSAGE: Bob, I don't remember everything. They stressed that the filter was a type that did not filter all the water all the time, just some of it, unlike older KAs. Can't remember the term; passover, no that's a holiday, bypass, no that's an operation, anyway there is some term for a filter that only gets some of the water some of the time, maybe part-time? Maybe poor? Anyway, that combined with possibly too weak a pump to blast the water as high as it needs to go means you have something heaving chunks all over and leaving them where they land. Bottom line, don't put really dirty dishes in them. Tom
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Post# 7430-10/23/2001-07:47 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Turbo--email
MESSAGE: dunno, I AM NOT AT WORK, STILL!!!!!!!!!!!! HAPPY HAPPY TOM.
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Post# 7431-10/23/2001-07:57 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: Right, I use Calgon to help make the water slipery and then use less detergent, except with liquid detergents which don't need to soften the water the same way. Tom
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Post# 7432-10/23/2001-08:56 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Turbo--email (Happy Happy Tom)
MESSAGE: How wonderful for you Tom, is the Library of Congress still closed? I'm green with envy.
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Post# 7433-10/23/2001-09:01 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Be careful what you wish for... (hello scott)
MESSAGE: Hi Scott
I am glad you are ok - yes we will chat soon.
Peter
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Post# 7434-10/23/2001-09:48 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool/Kenmore/KA microwave OTR recall
MESSAGE: There is an 800# as well. Call 800.785.8897. As the previous notes stated, this involves Whirlpool, Kenmore and Kitchenaid brand over the range microwave ovens with serial numbers beginning with the letters: "XC".
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Post# 7435-10/23/2001-09:48 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: More Duet stuff (Tall tub washability)
MESSAGE: by-pass???
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Post# 7436-10/23/2001-09:54 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool/Kenmore/KA microwave OTR recall
MESSAGE: John said I can use mine as long as I stand near it with a fire extinguisher.
After 2 years of being in service and only being used to warm coffee I kinda doubt it will explode into flames.
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Post# 7437-10/23/2001-10:49 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool/Kenmore/KA microwave OTR recall
MESSAGE: XC like XX-C kisses from China
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Post# 7438-10/23/2001-11:04 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Be careful what you wish for...
MESSAGE: Thanks Angus, Scott
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Post# 7439-10/23/2001-11:17 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Be careful what you wish for...
MESSAGE: Thank you Tom! :-) So glad you're enjoying that computer, and that you have it for that matter, being you've had all these days off. I didn't realize you were so close/connected to those affected places. Probably a good thing I didn't know back in Sept. or I'd have been even more worried and upset.
Scott
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Post# 7440-10/23/2001-12:28 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Laundry Chemicals Organized with Class! (Safety First)
MESSAGE: That is part of her next show where she shows you how to slaughter your own livestock, build your own rendering plant to extract the fat for making your own soap................
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Post# 7441-10/23/2001-12:33 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (WISK tablets)
MESSAGE: TT - I could try the warm water thing and perhaps some Calgon in the first rinse. To me certain things smell more than others even when dry. I guess that is the curse of being as my "ex" named me "Supernose". I tend not to use softener because I am one of those folks who likes the crisp feel of line dried clothes - of course, towels, underwear and socks go in the dryer - can't be bothered hanging those............. Thanks for the input. Now if I could only find Surf tablets without having to drive over an hour...........
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Post# 7442-10/23/2001-12:57 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: Well Tom, I think the truth is a little of both sides here. The washer and detergent mfg's say to base the amount of detergent on wash load size and degree of soiling. Others say that FL's concentrate the detergent solution so less is needed. It may be a bit of both, at least that seems logical. Some detergent ingredients may be more dependent on concentration, others may be more dependent on soil and laundry load. It's my understanding that it's the front loader action, not the water level, that causes more sudsing in a front loader than in a top loader for the same amount of detergent. The difference between the actions is like beating egg whites with a wisk (front loader) vs stirring them with a ladle (top loader). Which method will produce more foam?
In terms of rinsing... I spent a couple of months in a summer college job (many years ago) washing glassware for a nutrition lab. There I learned the basics of washing and rinsing, and that is that multiple rinses with modest amounts of water are more effective at removing traces of detergent than one rinse in a large amount of water. I learned to do it right because their experiments were quite fussy about surfactant traces. As I recall, the final rinse was done in de-ionized water. This was before disposable plastic labware cut down tremendously in the amount of glassware needing washing. I believe the same holds true for laundry, and that the multiple low water level rinses of front loaders give as good if not better rinsing results than the high water level single rinses of top loaders.
Personally I'd only use an HE detergent in a front loader these days. HE detergents are getting easy to find and some are quite inexpensive (Sears HE, for example).
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Post# 7443-10/23/2001-13:11 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: Maybe it's just me, but for as long as I can remember, detergent boxes used to contain the line to use a 1/2 cup of detergent or enough to bring the suds 1/4 to 1/2 up the window. I believe that concentrated All and Dash had the user using less detergent in their FL's. And even with using less detergent, there were alot of FL fans out there that got great results from reducing detergent use. I myself have been in a FL since 1986 and got great results from my machine using a 25 cc scoop for All (or Clorox detergent when it was available). While you all can argue over the chemical proportions of water, dirt and detergent, I think I'll stick to the practical application and the great results I get from my reduced amount of soapage. I have used HE detergent, and see no benefit of them over using reduced amounts. Not to mention my 'mat customers that get great results with using less soapage too.
-ph
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Post# 7444-10/23/2001-13:18 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: WF,
Thanks for reminding me of the basic chemistry... surfactants, soaps, etc, work becuase they are "bipolar molecules". No, they are schizophrenic and in need of Thorazine. Rather, one end of the molecule is water-loving, or "hydrophilic", and the other end is oil-loving, or "hydrophobic". It is this characteristic that allows the soap or synthetic surfactant molecule to grap onto grease and oil molecules and make them mix with water, allowing them to be washed away from fabrics or surfaces. This is primarily a matter of having enough of these molecules to bind with the oils. If there is more oil in the laundry, you need more surfactant or soap. Things like clay soil need a different chemical action to remove them - this is done by chemicals like water softeners such as sodium carbonate or sodium tripolyphosphate. These combine with the clay minerals. The phosphate type of softener works better becuase it doesn't precipiate out like the carbonates, so it doesn't redeposit the soil back on the clothes as a chemical such as calcium carbonate. One HE ingredient that might be more concentration dependent, up to a point, might be enzymes. These are used and released as they work, and a higher concentration of them might help them work faster. I suspect that early Sears HE detergents misjudged and overstimated the effects of higher concentration of enzymes in a FL; current versions of Sears HE Ultra state that they have more or better enzyme action - probably just more enzymes.
The "slippery feel" to the water can be imparted just from the alkalinity of sodium carbonate or complex phosphates. It is not a guarantee that the other components in the wash water are in sufficient amounts to solubilize and wash away all the various types of soiling, but like suds it is one of several indicators. Alkalinity also helps surfactant action - oils and greases are more soluble in alkaline solutions. Certainly if there is no slippery feel to the wash water, there isn't enough laundry detergent.
On the flip side, I've been noticing that I have perhaps been adding too much detergent to my Neptune loads. The suds in the final rinse are a good indicator. Part of this is Sears HE - it seems to do this more than Tide HE. On the other hand, Tide HE may have more fillers so one must use more to get equivalent amounts of sudsing. I've noticed the loads washed in Tide tend to be softer than those washed in Sears HE. Also I've noticed that adding STPP tends to result in more suds in the rinse cycle and harsher final results. This may be because with STPP less detergent is required. I'm working on fine-tuning this but it is an indication to me that more STPP or detergent is not necessarily a good thing; moderation is the key. On top of all this, my water company says our water can vary from soft to hard. So it's hard (no pun intended) to know just how much extra detergent or phosphate booster one should add, without doing periodic water hardness testing. Finally, one Nebraska site I accessed, states that for very hard water, such as over 12 grains (or is it ppm???), it's important to add a phosphate softener to both the wash and the rinse water. It's important in the rinsing in order to prevent left-over detergent from forming a scum with the hard rinse water and depositing it back on the clothes. I haven't tried adding STPP to the rinse cycle, as yet... I don't think our water is hard enough to warrant this.
Whew, sorry for the long post. It's nice to be able to take a short work break to discuss these fascinating subjects. Back to the computer lab...
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Post# 7445-10/23/2001-14:48 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
Norge dryers
MESSAGE: When did Norge end the "big fan in the back" design?
Norge dryers have just come into season here (Wards, Admiral), and I'm wondering if they are worth saving. They have got to be the biggest domestic dryers I've ever seen!
-ph
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Post# 7446-10/23/2001-15:05 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: More Duet stuff (Tall tub washability)
MESSAGE: Tom, maybe I should have some friends cancel the GU1500 for their new house being built and have them opt for the PowereClean 960???? Bob.
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Post# 7447-10/23/2001-16:07 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Laundry Chemicals Organized with Class! (Safety First)
MESSAGE: Anthony, You are sure that she will not tell us how to fashion the medallions and inscribe the words in the metal, or maybe cast the medallions with the words in the mold?
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Post# 7448-10/23/2001-16:11 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (WISK tablets)
MESSAGE: I have been told I could have been a fragrance or taste tester with my sensitive nose, so I might know how it is, but I guess that the way I wash and rinse, I do not notice odors afterwards. Tom
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Post# 7449-10/23/2001-16:29 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: You are right. Daddy worked for manufacturing chemists and said that rinsing was as important for soil removal as washing. The thing is toploaders do not rinse well either with just one rinse, BUT they almost all offer a full speed spin between the wash and the rinse. Many front loaders do not offer full speed extraction between the wash and the rinse or between the rinses. The Duet, seems to be an exception which is why I am anxious to try one. The one place where I would call for caution in your argument is that glassware does not absorb and fabrics do, so getting as much detergent solution out of them between water changes is very important when you are dealing with low water consumption rinses. It used to be, at least in commercial laundering as well as some European FLs that the rinse fills were higher than the wash. As the manufacturers tighten water consumption, that feature is going away. The Duet does not rinse at a higher water level, but at least it spins at a decent 800 rpm between wash and rinse and between rinse and rinse. I used to wash laboratory glassware in college, too. Pipettes were the worst, especially after blood work when they had to soak in enzymes. Then after all the rinsing, the only way to dry them was to draw up alcohol to drink the water tht was left and then blow that out. I used to dream of the department having money to buy a test tube washer like I saw at the lab in the hospital. TT
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Post# 7450-10/23/2001-16:35 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: Peter, 1/2 way up the window must have been for regular sudsers. You almost had to overuse Dash to get that much sudsing. I think that detergent manufacturers and washer manufacturers are recommending for the worst case scenario of cool water, heavy soil and large loads. A person doing laundry is probably gong to notice soil left in clothes before noticing that the detergent is not rinsed out. And maybe with enough softener, the left in detergent will be coated with enough softener to where it is not noticable. TT
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Post# 7451-10/23/2001-16:36 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: I used to do a high speed pirouette between each rinse of a glass pipet. I broke so many, they assigned me to run the centrifuge instead.
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Post# 7452-10/23/2001-16:49 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Norge dryers
MESSAGE: Peter, sometime in the late 60s, I believe when they made the dryer bigger to match the washer.
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Post# 7453-10/23/2001-16:51 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: More Duet stuff (Tall tub washability)
MESSAGE: Maybe. Depends on how dirty they put dishes in and how clean they expect them to be when they take them out.
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Post# 7454-10/23/2001-16:52 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: Another good place to break glass.
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Post# 7455-10/23/2001-17:39 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
In the detergent aisle
MESSAGE: On a bottle of GAIN with bleach alternative
avec substitut Javellisant
con alternativa blanqueador
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Post# 7456-10/23/2001-17:48 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (Maytag Encyclopedia of Homo Laundry)
MESSAGE: They might hand that out if you sign up at a recruiting center found in the back room of either a launderette or an appliance store. It is a way of suiting the premium to the party. Like an enlistment bonus, don'tcha know.
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Post# 7457-10/23/2001-18:05 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (Maytag Encyclopedia of Homo Laundry)
MESSAGE: Peter is this true??
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Post# 7458-10/23/2001-18:31 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (Maytag Encyclopedia of Homo Laundry)
MESSAGE: Be wary of such places. I've heard they practice unprotected laundering there (watching spin cycles with the lid up, for example). You could catch a sock in the eye.
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Post# 7459-10/23/2001-19:09 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Laundry Chemicals Organized with Class! (Safety First)
MESSAGE: Oh, yes, TT, I forgot that, but first she will show us how to mine and process our own metals for the medallions..........
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Post# 7460-10/23/2001-19:17 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: In the detergent aisle
MESSAGE: Yes, I have noticed multilingual packaging on certain brands also, most notably Gain, Tide and Dreft. Can't seem to think of any others. I guess that saves $ for P&G since now all packaged Gain, Tide and Dreft can go to Canada, the US or Mexico ........... no need for separate packaging. Those geniuses at P&G...they think of everything. Funny thing I noticed though, Lemon Scent Tide is only sold in Canada. Not that I am a big fan of "lemon scented" anything (except lemons of course) but I wonder why that particular type of product is available and so popular in Canada and not here in the US...........
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Post# 7461-10/23/2001-19:23 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Laundry Chemicals Organized with Class! (Safety First)
MESSAGE: Right, Anthony. "Now, in choosing a proper utensil for panning for gold, you will want to keep the following in mind..........
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Post# 7462-10/23/2001-20:22 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Be careful what you wish for...
MESSAGE: Well Scott I for one am glad to see you back here posting.
Welcome back and I hope that your personal life works itself out for you.
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Post# 7463-10/23/2001-20:25 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: email ettiquette?
MESSAGE: Hi Appnut. Hope you are recovering well.
I can understand how you must feel, my best friends Mum had to have numerous operations because of bowel cancer. My Aunty too recently discovered bleeding and she was seriously ill but she pulled through and I am sure you will too.
Thanx for that, I dont feel so bad now for using a dummy address. I am always careful because I friend of mine was stalked and this guy just kept making new email addresses, which she would keep blocking. So he would make a new one. An AVO is one thing but how to you stop weirdos from finding out too much about you.
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Post# 7464-10/23/2001-20:56 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Laundry Chemicals Organized with Class! (Safety First)
MESSAGE: "and you will want to select only the most perfect and fabulous gold nuggets"...............
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Post# 7465-10/23/2001-20:58 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Laundry Chemicals Organized with Class! (Safety First)
MESSAGE: I forgot..... they must also be the "prettiest", "best quality" nuggets..............
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Post# 7466-10/23/2001-21:08 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: Greg, for a full load in hot water I must use about 1-2 tablespoons of grated Fels. Soap as I had forgotten is more tricky than "Syndets" in soft water.I don't know the grain of your water but ours in MA is considered extremly soft. So I will have a situation where there will be NO suds and then just a few more grains and BAM there's suds through the whole wash cycle and just a touch more-literally several grains more and the load is oversudsing right up the door and into the next rinse!
If you have moderately hard water I would start with one heaping tablespoon and sprinkle it in from there.
Let me know how you make out we need to spread the gospel of St. Fels!
cheers jon
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Post# 7467-10/23/2001-21:15 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: Eddy they still sell it here in the super markets. I can send you some if you like---NOW everybody don't hop on the band wagon--Eddy is up in Canada and distrbutor challenged! I also know you can get it at WAY (not yay!) inflated prices online.
jon
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Post# 7468-10/23/2001-21:21 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (Ivory Flakes??)
MESSAGE: Yeah Anthony thats the one that really irks me! My Mom always used Ivory Flakes! They were soooo cool like snow! But Ivory as a soap is no more. I see the boxes in the store and I always check the label to see if they have gone back to the original soap formula.
jon
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Post# 7469-10/23/2001-21:30 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (How slippery are you???)
MESSAGE: Peter:
How smooth is your skin? If you've been in a F/L with moderate soapage for 15 years you MUST be squeaky clean!!!
anonymous westy owner------
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Post# 7470-10/23/2001-21:59 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT:
Anyone know anything about these??
MESSAGE: Hi Guys, Another teacher at school is redoing her kitchen. She asked me if I knew anything about the GE Advantiu oven. (I may not have spelled that right.) I know that they are expensive. I told her I would check and see what I could find out. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks, Terry
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Post# 7471-10/23/2001-22:11 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Anyone know anything about these?? (Advantium)
MESSAGE: Terry - I have a GE Advantium 120. I just remodeled my kitchen 2 months ago. I like the microwave. GE needed to do a upgrade to the computer board & they did so. It's a real great oven. Except I think the GE service sux. (thats another story)
It's certainly a better microwave than Whirlpool. I always say let GE do the cooking and Whirlpool do the washing - than we would have a better world.
Peter
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Post# 7472-10/23/2001-22:19 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (Ivory Flakes??)
MESSAGE: Wishful thinking - I doubt that will ever happen, much as I wish for it also.................
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Post# 7473-10/23/2001-22:20 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Be careful what you wish for...
MESSAGE: Well, I was wondering if you'd found a 50's Frigidaire appliance source and were holding out on us! ;-)
Glad to have you back - hope all is going better for you and will continue to do well! Greg
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Post# 7474-10/23/2001-22:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: I'll give it a try, but I forsee another rinse in my Laundromat-Fels adventure as I have all cold rinses in mine.
I have a couple of boxes of Ivory, does anyone know if or when that goes bad (or if) and shouldn't be used?
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Post# 7475-10/23/2001-22:36 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: I don't find the Sears HE to be much different than the formula Sears has sold for years. When I worked there many years ago, we could buy the damaged boxes for $1 so we used it at home for a long time. I bought a bucket of the Sears HE over a year ago and will probably have it for the rest of my life with the many other brands on my shelves. I tried a Wisk tablet in the Laundromat tonight and was quite pleased with the results - little to no suds and relatively clean rinsing (within the limits of the machine's ability.)
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Post# 7476-10/23/2001-23:33 ||| washrfreak (dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (Maytag Encyclopedia of Homo Laundry)
MESSAGE: There are launderettes with back rooms? And I've been missing out? I feel so innocent...
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Post# 7477-10/23/2001-23:45 ||| washrfreak (dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Anyone know anything about these??
MESSAGE: I just installed one today! I got the Advanium 120 because it is also a convection oven (as well as a flash oven and microwave). So far it seems to work, I flashed a chicken (well, you know what I mean) and used the convection mode to bake a pie. Everything came out great.
If you're not familiar with flash ovens, they use high intensity halogen lights to heat the food. Cooks fast, but uses heat so the results are more like a conventional oven. The GE uses microwaves in addition to the lamps to heat the food internally before it burns on the outside. You can control how much microwave vs lamps. It also has microwave mode where it works like a standard microwave and a convection oven mode.
As I play with it over the next few days I'll probably know more. So far I'm very satisfied.
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Post# 7478-10/23/2001-00:04 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'M HOME
MESSAGE: Welcome home Bob, I hope you will make a wonderful recovery. I have a very bad connection, I can't read messages at night. Hope to be back soon!
Louis
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Post# 7479-10/24/2001-03:00 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Stuff from Maryland
MESSAGE: Jason, the pair are beautiful. I always callled that a creamy coffee color, if it is that light brown color. If so, that's what every kitchen on the Frigidaire street in our subdivision had as its color for the range & dishwasher. They all had a flair wall oven. It's amazing, I remembered the cycle buttons in their proper order and the last time I saw that machine was 1969 or 1970. My Godfather's wife had the 65 model in white. Loved hitting & canceling the extra rinse button during the 1st rinse fill just so I could hear the fs solenoid opening & closing. Never saw the matching dryer. So, this was an indiscribable treat to see the control panel for that dryer. This is one of my two dream frigidaire machines. The other being like Uni's 1958.
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Post# 7480-10/24/2001-03:05 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Stuff from Maryland
MESSAGE: Yes Uni, this now makes Jason part of the Jet Set.
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Post# 7481-10/24/2001-03:31 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find
MESSAGE: Jason, thanks for the pics of the 1970 800. I now can get the record fine tuned--I guess ours was the 1971 model 800. Bought right after the new year models were released. Didn't have the dial behind glass. Very classy machine here.
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Post# 7482-10/24/2001-03:43 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Help the Webmaster Test
MESSAGE: Robert, worked flawlessly for me. Can't wait for the more possibilities.
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Post# 7483-10/24/2001-06:15 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: Surf Tablets work well also - you might want to try them - of course after you finish (?) your supply of Sears HE.....
I have a question though. Jon posted that he uses 1-2 tablespoons of grated Fels in the FL for a load of clothes. I am not a chemist, but can that really be sufficient to do an entire load of wash? I remember using Instant Fels years ago and usually 3/4 to 1 cup was what was used for a full wash in a TL - but that may be the difference of TL vs. FL. Sorry, Jon, I should have posted this directly to you - but I figured since I was writing I would just make it all one message...............
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Post# 7484-10/24/2001-06:27 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT:
RE: Anyone know anything about these?? (Thanks for the information!)
MESSAGE: Thanks Peter and Washrfreak, I appreciated you advice on the Advanium oven. I will pass on the information. It sounds like a neat thing. I bet you guys will have fun playing with it. Please keep us posted. Terry
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Post# 7485-10/24/2001-07:29 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (Ivory Flakes??)
MESSAGE: From the dark and cobwebby recesses on my mind, I seem to remember something that was done at Christmas with whipped Ivory snow for decorating, but only seem to remember that the stuff was painted on Christmas tree branches and decorative greens to look like snow. I loved the smell of the spray "snow" in a can. Even after it dried it had an odor that was distinctive and pleasant without being perfumed. Anyone remember this? Tom
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Post# 7486-10/24/2001-07:41 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Anyone know anything about these??
MESSAGE: Terry, the Advantium oven works with microwaves and intense heat from halogen bulbs, I believe. There are two versions, the original 220 volt and the 120 volt. The fastest cooking times are with the 220 volt version because it can heat and zap at the same time. The cooking programs are pretty much programmed for packaged convenience foods, according to a report in read on it in CR, I think. They are programmed to the point of having programs for different size packages of refrigerated dinner rolls, the kind that come in a can and you unwrap and whack to open. The word of caution here is that cleaning the interior is not going to be easy because microwaves made things spatter more than conventional cooking and the heat in the cavity makes spatters cook on. While the flat surfaces are not that hard to clean, the top of the cavity has lots of perforations and cleaning tht and keeping it clean might be a bear. It is something tht would need cleaning after each messy cooking session to stay clean. John ate food cooked in it at the GE exhibit at the KBIS in Orlando and said it was good. The trick is getting a 220 volt line to the place in an older kitchen where the over the stove microwave 120 volt outlet was which is why they came up with the 120 volt version. Tom
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Post# 7487-10/24/2001-07:46 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: Greg, you modified your Laundromat to give all cold rinses? You are going to have a mess with soap in very cold water. Even with wringer washers where you left most of the suds behind when you put the clothes through the wringer, the first rinse was warm to get the soap moving out of the clothes.
There is such a thing as soap going rancid. Don't know if it can happen with Ivory because of its purity. Smell would tell. TT
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Post# 7488-10/24/2001-07:53 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Anyone know anything about these??
MESSAGE: I have a client with a GE convection/microwave which was the TOL prior to the Advantium line. The interior walls and floor are stainless, which is easy to clean, but the top is a coated metal (reminds me of the cont. clean oven walls) that is nearly impossible to clean. I could take some pictures of washers that would curl your hair! Don't know how anyone can take clean clothes out of some of these machines.
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Post# 7489-10/24/2001-07:55 ||| steved (Albany NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Stuff from Maryland (color, and welcome back, Bob)
MESSAGE: Hi Bob, Glad to see you're back again! Hope your recovery goes smoothly.
I believe that color was called Autumn Haze, I can check in my files. there was a period in the mid 60'd when Frigidaire offered all sorts of custom colors - i have a flier showing Blues and Reds too.
SteveD
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Post# 7490-10/24/2001-07:58 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: I replaced the thermostatic water valve with a regular one and now have hot-warm-cold instead of hot-medium-warm for washes and all cold rinses instead of warm. I'm thinking the soap thing will need to be tried in the Duo or the SQ with warm rinses.
The couple of boxes of Ivory soap that I found a couple of weeks ago have never been opened - may have to try opening one of them.
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Post# 7491-10/24/2001-08:09 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'M HOME (Welcome Back Bob!)
MESSAGE: Yes Bob welcome home! Did your baby miss you?? I hope you got lots of tail wags!!
Louis I hope your connection clears up soon! I hated not being able to keep up with the club all summer long!
jet
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Post# 7492-10/24/2001-08:14 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: Anthony I can only respond to your question this way..I am grating my Fels with my grate attachement on my KitchenAid. It takes seconds to grate a bar but the flakes are more than twice the size of the old Instant Fels powder. So with my soft water and that, 1-2 tablespoons creates "Heaping Suds"!! And as we all know from Wards Commercialand---how can you get clean without HEAPING SUDS!!!
jet
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Post# 7493-10/24/2001-08:20 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (Ivory Flakes??)
MESSAGE: Hi Tom:
I don't remember the smell of spray snow in a can(winter in a can!) but I do remember that Ivory recipe. I think you mixed cream of tartar with Ivory and whipped it up and dobbed it on your tree. I think the recipe used to be on the box around Xmastime.
SOrry I didn't get down to see you last weekend but the 2 year old Amana Fridge at the Cape died and I had to haul a new one down to replace it since I have more tenants coming in to rent in November. Ya know John warned me when I bought the thing that it was JUNK and I'b be lucky to get 5 years out of the thing! I'm glad its GONE! IT would ROAR like a dishwasher and you would be sitting across the house in the livingroom and still not be able to read a book!
cheers jon
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Post# 7494-10/24/2001-08:27 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (Enlist here!)
MESSAGE: It depends on who walks in the front door...
-ph
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Post# 7495-10/24/2001-08:37 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (How slippery are you???)
MESSAGE: Smooth on the outside, rough on the inside. "Manly, yes, but I like it too."
-ph
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Post# 7496-10/24/2001-09:11 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Stuff from Maryland (color, and welcome back, Bob)
MESSAGE: Honey Beige
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Post# 7497-10/24/2001-09:29 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: NIce Dasher UNi But?? (AWOUCH!!!)
MESSAGE: May I suggest Switzerland, I mean Merkercountry?
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Post# 7498-10/24/2001-11:46 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Anyone know anything about these??
MESSAGE: The Advantium has to work better on 120 than a microwave convection, which I have two of, the KA and the original Amana coutertop hulk. The halogen is much more intense and instantaneous than the convection which took forever to heat up. Peter seems to like his 120 volt version. The cleaning thing would be my question. The top the cavities in my MW/Conv ovens is perforated stainless, so not impossible to clean. TT
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Post# 7499-10/24/2001-11:48 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Stuff from Maryland (color, and welcome back, Bob)
MESSAGE: According to the tech manual it is honey beige for the washer and dryer in question, porcelain, not paint. Would love to see Purple Haze as interpreted by Frigidaire.
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Post# 7500-10/24/2001-11:48 ||| Lenny (Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (Ivory Flakes/Snow)
MESSAGE: I remember Ivory Flakes as a young kid. It was so soft and fluffy and it would easily fill up the cup and flow over like silk! Flakes were an awsome product and Ivory Snow also was a great powdered pure soap product. Somewhere along the time-line P&G dropped their Flakes but kept the Snow and at some point again the 'soap' product turned into a synthetic 'mild' detergent. Im not sure when or why this happened but P&G really radically changed the Ivory line. I'd suppose maybe its that pure 'soap' is more expensive to produce or its rinsability is not as good as the synthetic. Also, maybe it has something more to do with flame retardency protection of children's fabrics. Whatever the reason, I miss the 99/44, 100% pure Ivory Flakes/Snow!
Lenny
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Post# 7501-10/24/2001-11:52 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: Greg, use caution with potential sudsing in the Duomatic. You don't want to force suds up into the heating element area where it is going to make a burning smell when it does into dry. I would soften water first with Calgon and then add tiny amounts of soap through the soap door. Tom
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Post# 7502-10/24/2001-12:00 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (Ivory Flakes??)
MESSAGE: Jon, thanks for confirming the memory; was afraid it was just a southern thing. We were not allowed to ever buy the spray snow so only remember it from school and friend's houses, but it was one of those very evocative seasonal things for me.
Sorry about the Amana. I hope you hauled it back to be fixed under warranty. Two years is just a crime for a fridge. Hope you had good help getting the things moved. Best wishes to you and a good rub for BIG AL, Tom
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Post# 7503-10/24/2001-12:01 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (Enlist here!)
MESSAGE: And what kind of a basket they are pushing, no doubt.
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Post# 7504-10/24/2001-12:09 ||| robbytuck (Sioux Falls, SD)
SUBJECT:
Has anyone ever seen one of these??
MESSAGE: I thought I had seen them all but.....
What was a Kaiser Dishwasher. From what I can see in the ad it does not use an electric motor.
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&item=1022035985
Would appreciate some feed back
Thanks
Bob
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Post# 7505-10/24/2001-12:20 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (Fels bar)
MESSAGE: Hi Jon, I did some searching and the closest place I can get it is in Bellingham, WA. I'm hestitant to cross the border these days with the long delays because of security... I just may take you up on that generous offer, I'm eager to try some of that Fels!
Eddy
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Post# 7506-10/24/2001-12:28 ||| robbytuck (Sioux Falls, SD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (Fels bar)
MESSAGE: I thought I was the only one who still used Fels. Always keep a bar handy. It is great from grass stains or when Russell drips chocolate ice cream on his white T shirts. Never thought of grating it in the washer. How much would I use. Do I use it by itself or with something else?
Thanks
Bob
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Post# 7507-10/24/2001-13:46 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: Peter,
I think that might be right for frontloaders that don't have a built in heater, but if you have a frontloader that heats it's own water, you've got to use enough detergent to soften the water or use Calgon in order to get the longest life out of the heating element.
Louis
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Post# 7508-10/24/2001-13:58 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Has anyone ever seen one of these??
MESSAGE: It worked on water pressure. Water jets made the racks spin. You poured special detergent into the water stream before it entered the jets at the bottom that drove the racks. It washed for as long as you squirted detergent; strictly one pass and down the drain (gravity). When it was through, the ads said that the dishes' own heat dried then as they whirled to a stop. Used lots of water, did not wash dirty dishes. Made of aluminum; remember Kaiser Aluminum, remember the Henry J and the Kaiser the 2 UGLIEST cars ever made in America? Like something out of a mightmare.
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Post# 7509-10/24/2001-14:01 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'M HOME (better connection)
MESSAGE: I think I am back now. Problem seems to be a damaged cable between the European mainland and the US. Don't know if this is temporarily or the problems are gone now.
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Post# 7510-10/24/2001-14:05 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: Louis, this country is not really familiar with water heating in washers. Before the combos that sometimes offered water heating in the mid 50 thru early 60s, the other attempt was a gas burner under the wash tub of the copper tub Easy with the vacuum plunger cups way early in the 1900s. And even without water heating, poor washing habits, underuse of poor detergent and other factors have produced some splendid mineraling up of machines.
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Post# 7511-10/24/2001-14:25 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
Big news in a small laundrocentric life
MESSAGE: WOO HOO. Mail carrier just brought my coupon for a FREE (up to $6.00) box of Wisk tablets (20 or 30 load). This is from a coupon in the paper a couple of months ago for buy one get one free. Of course, I get at least two and sometimes 3 washes out of each tablet in the European babies. Rich man
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Post# 7512-10/24/2001-14:39 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Has anyone ever seen one of these?? (Kaiser Aluminum)
MESSAGE: There used to be a Kaiser Aluminum plant close to my house. They stayed open until about the early 80s. The big smokestack was shut down for environmental reasons but it is still there and it's a landmark to the town I grew up in.
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Post# 7513-10/24/2001-14:40 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Has anyone ever seen one of these?? (Kaiser car)
MESSAGE: I saw one at a car show once. You are right, that sucker is ugly.
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Post# 7514-10/24/2001-15:11 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (Ivory Flakes/Snow)
MESSAGE: You can still get Ivory bar soap, fairly inexpensively. I wonder how difficult it would be to make flakes of that. I recently acquired a 5 qt. Kitchenaid mixer plus the attachment set, which includes a food grinder. I figure one of the grinder attachments should be able to handle chunks of bar soap...
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Post# 7515-10/24/2001-15:16 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Has anyone ever seen one of these?? (Kaiser car)
MESSAGE: Early Kaisers were not easy on the eyes, but they did a redesign later on that was much better. Unfortunately it was too late to save them and they stopped the car business a year later.
I dunno about the "ugliest car ever" claim, though. I think that belongs to the '62 Plymouth, which has been described as having a grille reminiscent of a monster from a Japanese horror movie. And I'm a mopar fan.
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Post# 7516-10/24/2001-15:23 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (How slippery are you???)
MESSAGE: And that occasional dosing of Clorox must eliminate any possible need for deodorant... ;-)
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Post# 7517-10/24/2001-15:36 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: Tom,
I know that, but with the European washers sold in the US and now the Neptune 7500 and the Hetties and WP frontloaders on the market this will ofcourse become an issue. Ofcourse you are right about build up happening without heating the water.
Louis
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Post# 7518-10/24/2001-15:51 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
Jose's Appliances
MESSAGE: Back in the early 70's I ran across a local bluegrass group that wrote this great song about Jose's Appliances. Jose would fix old appliances so that housewives could continue to use their washers, etc., without having to junk their old ones and go out and buy new ones. I was so impressed with the song that I asked one of the performers if they could tell me how to get in touch with Jose. Anyway, somewhere I have the song on tape, and if I can find it I will post the lyrics here - and if I ever get digitizing audio figured out, I'll post an audio file as well.
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Post# 7519-10/24/2001-17:23 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (How slippery are you???)
MESSAGE: OHHH BABY Voompah Voompah I love that Jet-Action!!!
jc
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Post# 7520-10/24/2001-17:24 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: NIce Dasher UNi But?? (AWOUCH!!!)
MESSAGE: Its a done deal!! Thanks Louis!
jon & al ( who is naughtier than ever!)
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Post# 7521-10/24/2001-17:28 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (Fels bar)
MESSAGE: Sure Eddy just send me your address to my email
joncharles @ mediaone . net
cheers jon
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Post# 7522-10/24/2001-17:29 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Big news in a small laundrocentric life
MESSAGE: Congratulations Tom! I Love Wisk tablets!!
jon
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Post# 7523-10/24/2001-17:30 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT:
RE: Anyone know anything about these?? (Thanks guys)
MESSAGE: Thanks Tom and Greg also for your information on the GE Advantium oven. I will pass it on. Terry
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Post# 7524-10/24/2001-17:31 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (Ivory Flakes/Snow)
MESSAGE: That is how I grate my Fels Naptha. But you might want to get a used french fry cutter and run the bars through that before you grate them. THen you will get those nice square flakes they used to make.
jon
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Post# 7525-10/24/2001-17:34 ||| appliguy (Vienna Va.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Has anyone ever seen one of these?? (about Kaiser)
MESSAGE: Seeing how Kaiser cars were mentioned recently I thought some of you guys might be interested in the background of Kaiser Frazer Corp. Kaiser Frazer Corp. came into being when Henry J Kaiser and Joesph Frazer bought the Graham Paige Motor Co. in 1945. Kaiser was a master shipbuilder and Frazer a master salesman who thought that they could make a fortune after the war selling cars that where new in style compared to the warmed over styling everyone else was going to be offering. There were originaly 2 lines of cars. The Frazer and the Kaiser. It is true that the first generation of both cars were plain and maybe a tad homely, but to new car buyers in a car hungry post war world they were quite welcome. The Kaiser was supposed to be the more luxurious of the two while the Frazer was supposed to be the more economical model. Despite the general homelyness Kaiser managed to make a very striking car in 1949-50 called the Kaiser Manhattan which most distinct feature was that it was the onlythe only 4 door convertible you could buy in 1949-50. Another distinct feature of the Manhattan was the center post between the doors, which had a glass insert and remained stationary when the top and the windows were down, this feature was also shared with the Kaiser Virginian, which was a four door sedan with inaccurately called a " four door Hardtop" (a true four door hardtop has no pillar between the doors and was not introduced until 1955 in GM Senior lines of cars). The first generation of Kaiser/Frazer cars were manufactured from 1947 to 1950. The 1951 models were ready for introduction for the 1950 model year but the glut of unused 49 body shells forced the introduction of the "anotomically styled models to bepostponed until all unused shells were used up in the Spring of 1950. The 1951 Kaiser and Frazer were actually much more attractive with Kaiser having what they termed Anatomic Styling. The newly style 51 Frazer, which was a radical restyle of the 50 Kaiser, would only last this one year and then the Frazer name would be discontinued. 1951 also saw they arrival of the Henry J and its offshoot the Allstate......yes folks this car was sold by Sears Roebuck, only in the Southeast, until 1953 when it was declared a flop. The Henry J was supposed to be a second car or a car for folks on a budget like the original Rambler that had be introduced by Nash the year before. But unlike the Rambler that was dressed up with standard features that cost extra on full sized cars of the era (like heater, radio, deluxe interior etc.) the Henry J was a stripped down little car in comparison. The cheapest J was a four cylinder model that went for $1299 F.O.B Detroit. A step was a six cylinder model. Despite the huge advertising campaign,which included endorsements from movie and TV stars like George Burns and Gracie Allen, the Henry J's was a sales disappointment and was yanked off the market in 1954 after 1100 reserialed 53 Henry J's were sold as 54's. A final note on the aformentioned Allstate, the only difference between it and the Henry J was the Allstate badging and the fact that all Allstate's were fitted with Sears batteries, tires, and tubes. In 1953 Kaiser bought Willy Overland the maker of the Jeep line of vehicles as well as the Willys line of cars and now becomes the Kaiser-Willys Corp. Also in 1953 designer Howard "Dutch" Darrin designed probably the most beautiful sports car of the era, the 1954 Kaiser Darrin the only sports car in the 50's with sliding doors. During this same time the big Kaiser was losing ground due to the fact that it still was powered by the same old Contenental Six that had powered it since 1947, in a day when overhead valve V8's were leading the fledgling horsepower race. Kaiser didn't have the funds to develop a new V8 as all disposable funds went into the development of the Herny J. As a last ditch attempt to gain some points in the horsepower race Kaiser offers a super charger for the old Contenental six starting with its 1954 modelsn which brought the old six's horsepower rating up tp 148. Unfortunately by late 1954 after building a a small amount of 55 Kaisers and Willys, Kaiser left the American passenger car market and had all Kaiser and WIllys passenger car tooling sent to Argentina where the 55 Kaiser and Willys would be produced into the early 1960's. Kaiser of course kept building Jeeps in this country, becoming Kaiser Jeep Corp. in the early 60's, until 1970 when Kaiser Jeep was bought by AMC.
Hope I didn't bore you guys to tears but I just thought ya all might be interested.
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Post# 7526-10/24/2001-17:36 ||| appliguy (Vienna Va.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Has anyone ever seen one of these?? (It was the 61 plymouth)
MESSAGE: It was the Full sized 1961 Plymouth that was said to have the grille that looked like the insect that ate Tokyo not the shrunken 62's
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Post# 7527-10/24/2001-17:51 ||| washrfreak (dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Anyone know anything about these?? (Convection too)
MESSAGE: There is one other difference between the Advantium 120 and the 240 models - the 120 has a convection oven mode. No microwaves or lamps, just a fan and heat. I like having all 3 options.
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Post# 7528-10/24/2001-19:01 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (Ivory Flakes/Snow)
MESSAGE: I remember Ivory advertising saying at some point that Ivory Snow had been granulated for machine efficiency in the 60s. I, too remember the weirdly pleasurable feel of the flakes.
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Post# 7529-10/24/2001-19:20 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Has anyone ever seen one of these?? (Kaiser car)
MESSAGE: I remember as a child that the Kaiser kars were actually frightening to look at as they came down the street. If we were walking, it was almost like a sinister creature was approaching. Was the 62 Plymouth the one that had the tail lights in little cans attached like an afterthought to the side? It might have been ugly, but it did not look as foreign as the Kaisers. There was something about the vertical lines that made them look like they were about to pounce, like a praying mantis, maybe. Tom
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Post# 7530-10/24/2001-19:28 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Has anyone ever seen one of these?? (about Kaiser)
MESSAGE: Thanks, that was a great history, but reading it brought to mind someone rowing backwards to prevent his boat from going over the waterfall and losing.
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Post# 7531-10/24/2001-19:47 ||| appliguy (Vienna Va.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Has anyone ever seen one of these?? (No Tom that was the 61 Plymouth)
MESSAGE: The 62 Full size Plymouth and Dodge) were the first of the shruken full sized Plymouths and Dodges made between 192 and 1964. They were the brain child of he temporary president of Chrysler William Newburg in 1960 (he held the post for only 3 months but it was enough time for im to cause a huge mess). Ya see, he was at a cocktail party one night when he heard the rumor that Chevy was downsizing the Impala/Bel Air/Biscayne for 1962. In a panic he demanded that all work on they full sized 62's be scrapped and the wheelbases be shrunk from I believe 122 to 116 inches (don't quote me on the exact measurements). The styling of the actual 62's was supposed to have been applied to a bigger car (I have seen the 1960 sketches of what the 62 Plymouth was really supposed to look like in Collectible Automobile Magazine and it was striking) but with so little time to redesign the shruken 62's, the designers scaled down their designs for Plymouth and Dodge (which also got shrunk for 62). Of course when the public turned their back on the cars Chrysler execs blamed Virgil Exner the head of the design department (originator of Chryslers Forward Look cars in 1955 and 57). He was let go in late 1961 and replaced by Elwood Engel of Ford who had just designed the gorgeous 61 Contenental For Linclon and the 1961 Thunderbird for Ford. IOver the next 2 years Engel did what he could for the shrunken Plymouth Fury/Belevedere/Savoy and the Dodge Dart/440/330 lines of cars. Engels influence on CHrysler styling was evident with the coming of the 1965 models which he had free reign to design from the ground up which was when Chrysler woke up and brought back true full size Plymouths . (Dodge had brought out a true full sized car than in mid 1962 which was nothing more than a Chrysler Newport with a 1961 Dodge Polora grille and in 1965 expaned the true full size line with the Monaco). To compete with Ford intermediate Fairlane as well as GM's new intermediates from Chevy, Pontiac, Buick, and Olds, the Shrunken 62 Body then became the intermediate sized Belevedere/Satellite at Plymouth and the Coronet at Dodge and would last until redesigned for 1968.
Yeesh, there I go again sorry but I am so passionate about antique cars as wellas appliances. By the way Tom how is the Museum coming along?
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Post# 7532-10/24/2001-19:51 ||| appliguy (Vienna Va.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Has anyone ever seen one of these?? (No Tom that was the 61 Plymouth)
MESSAGE: The 62 Full size Plymouth and Dodge were the first of the shruken full sized Plymouths and Dodges made between 1962 and 1964. They were the brain child of the temporary president of Chrysler William Newburg (he held the post for only 3 months in 1960 but it was enough time for him to cause a huge mess). Ya see, he was at a cocktail party one night when he heard the rumor that Chevy was downsizing the Impala/Bel Air/Biscayne for 1962. In a panic he demanded that all work on they full sized 62's be scrapped and the wheelbases be shrunk from I believe 122 to 116 inches (don't quote me on the exact measurements). The styling of the actual 62's was supposed to have been applied to a bigger car (I have seen the 1960 sketches of what the 62 Plymouth was really supposed to look like in Collectible Automobile Magazine and it was striking) but with so little time to redesign the shruken 62's, the designers scaled down their designs for Plymouth and Dodge. Of course when the public turned their back on the cars Chrysler execs blamed Virgil Exner the head of the design department (originator of Chryslers Forward Look cars in 1955 and 57). He was let go in late 1961 and replaced by Elwood Engel of Ford who had just designed the gorgeous 61 Contenental For Linclon and the 1961 Thunderbird for Ford. Over the next 2 years Engel did what he could for the shrunken Plymouth Fury/Belevedere/Savoy and the Dodge Dart/440/330 lines of cars. Engels influence on Chrysler styling was evident with the coming of the 1965 models which he had free reign to design from the ground up.At the same time Chrysler woke up and brought back true full size Plymouths (Dodge had brought out a true full sized car in mid 1962 which was nothing more than a Chrysler Newport with a 1961 Dodge Polora grille and in 1965 expaned the true full size line with the addition of the Monaco line). In 1965,to compete with Ford's intermediate Fairlane as well as GM's new intermediates from Chevy, Pontiac, Buick, and Olds, the Shrunken 62 Body then became the intermediate sized Belevedere/Satellite at Plymouth and the Coronet at Dodge and would last until redesigned for 1968.
Yeesh, there I go again sorry but I am so passionate about antique cars as wellas appliances. By the way Tom how is the Museum coming along?
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Post# 7533-10/24/2001-19:53 ||| appliguy (Vienna Va.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Has anyone ever seen one of these?? (read 7532.....7531 is messed up)
MESSAGE: I posted before I was ready so read 7532 it iss correct.
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Post# 7534-10/24/2001-21:21 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (my fill is high fill...)
MESSAGE: Touche!! How could I forget that principle?
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Post# 7535-10/24/2001-21:28 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Big news in a small laundrocentric life
MESSAGE: Sigh.................my hero!!!!
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Post# 7536-10/24/2001-22:01 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Big news in a small laundrocentric life
MESSAGE: Mine should be here soon. I hope.
I aquired a box of Mountain Spring Tide and finally decided to use it today. That stuff is bad enough to gag a maggot on a goats a**.
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Post# 7537-10/24/2001-22:55 ||| Steved (.....)
SUBJECT:
RE: Stuff from Maryland (correction)
MESSAGE: Hi Bob, I am sorry to have given the wrong info before checking my facts. That color is not Autumn Haze but Honey Beige as pointed out by others. Autumn Haze was a lighter almond color only available on ranges and refrigerators by special order. I am sorry if this caused any problems. SteveD
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Post# 7538-10/24/2001-23:20 ||| Steved (.....)
SUBJECT:
Thats it!
MESSAGE: Hi, all.....
I have been part of this group since the early Yahoo days, posting message #40 there, after 15 others. I have seen many new people come and go, lived through Chad Miller's and Rob Grisdala's antics. But now I find little enjoyment here. There seems to be a shift in focus, from friendly exchanges of information and experiences, to a place where there is no room for discussion or disagreement. A few self-proclaimed "experts" seem to believe that they have all the answers, and if anyone disagrees, "watch out". I can appreciate everyone's excitement about their own opinion, but there is an "edge" that has developed, and damaged the good-nature of this place. I have always tried to offer my point-of-view based on facts, not offer facts based on my point-of-view. You can see that I usually said "I think" or "I believe", leaving room for errors.
I have decided to quit Classic Appliances. I am sorry if my opinion seems out of line, but the facts remain. The best of luck to you all, especially to Robert (Uni), who has worked so hard on this site. His contribution to appliance fans cannot ever be repaid.
SteveD
PS. By the way, Jason? You need a major attitude adjustment. I was working on appliances before you were potty trained. And a dose of manners wouldn't hurt. Maybe you should add to your screen name a "B" for bitter......
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Post# 7539-10/24/2001-00:32 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Has anyone ever seen one of these?? (about Kaiser)
MESSAGE: Great post on the history of Kaiser/Frazer et al. Love it.
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Post# 7540-10/24/2001-01:22 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Thats it!
MESSAGE: So you were working on appliances before I was potty trained. That makes you what and in who's eyes? I personally don't give a rats rump. As for my attitude problem...I love it. Manners, some have them, some don't, guess it's all a matter of opinion.
You are right about one thing. The time and money Robert has spent and continues to spend for all of us appliance enthusiasts can never be repaid. However, I feel when you do something because you enjoy it and/or it is for your friends there is no repayment needed. It is something friends do for each other.
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Post# 7541-10/25/2001-02:06 ||| Arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
Beautiful Easy machine
MESSAGE: What a beauty! I love it. Does anyone know
a) when it was made,
b) did it have the spiralator and
c) what happened to the Easy company
Thanx!
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Post# 7542-10/25/2001-07:39 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
Pic of the Day - two pics in one!
MESSAGE: The washer in the main picture is different from the one in the appliance line-up at the bottom of the page. The one below is older, maybe a previous year? Also, the lower one looks like it may have been the last of the solid basket machines? Bob (appnut) and I were just talking about these big-door dryers the other day, I've seen a couple at sales recently. Does anyone know how that detergent dispenser was activated? I remember the models right below this one had a small ribbed plastic washboard in place of the dispenser - for scrubbing stains prior to washing.
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Post# 7543-10/25/2001-09:18 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Beautiful Easy machine
MESSAGE: Easy, part of the Murray Corporation and then the Hupp Corporation died--over easy. According to a statement from the company in the early 60s, which I have someplace in a Laundry Special Issue of Appliance Magazine, they put all of their faith in the combination washer-dryer, felt that it would be the ultimate laundry appliance. Their top loaders did not advance much if the ones they made for AMC in the early mid 60s were anything to go by and the dryers were total pieces of junk in that they fell apart in use. The design had some potential with diagonal back corner to opposite front corner air flow, but was made of cheap parts, lots of galvanized metal and sharp corners. Very sad. Grand old name in washer history, inventor of the machine with the up and down vacuum plunger cup washing action from which the Frigidaire pulsator might have descended. Uni said that Easy made machines for Hotpoint for a while. Maybe it was after they lost that that they started the fatal slide.
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Post# 7544-10/25/2001-09:19 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pic of the Day - two pics in one!
MESSAGE: Very good Greg! I noticed that too when I scanned the thing. The washer in the little bottom picture is the TOL "Lady Executive" solid-basket Hotpoint.
I've been doing some more research on the Hotpoint changover between the solid-basket co-axial design and the perforated basket-GE design. For what I can tell, Hotpoint introduced this new GE-style washer in 1972, but continued to manufacture and sell both this GE design (with some minor changes) and the older solid-basket machines thru 1974. For the 1975 line, they only sold the newer GE designed machines.
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Post# 7545-10/25/2001-09:21 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Beautiful Easy machine (Ooops, Other Way Around)
MESSAGE: Right Tom, but it was the other way around, Hotpoint made those machines for Easy.
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Post# 7546-10/25/2001-09:22 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (pink KA mixers)
MESSAGE: Speaking of Kitchen Aid mixers, has anyone seen the pink one they have out now? I think part of the purchase price goes toward breast cancer research. I have a colbalt KA, but would love a more vintage pink one.
-ph
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Post# 7547-10/25/2001-09:27 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Big news in a small laundrocentric life (gag-o-rama)
MESSAGE: Now use Mountain Fresh Downy after washing in Mountain Fresh Tide and you could wipe out a small country! That's the WORST!!!
-ph
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Post# 7548-10/25/2001-10:07 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Big news in a small laundrocentric life (gag-o-rama)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the warning. I use calming mist. I guess it doesn't do much calming. LOL
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Post# 7549-10/25/2001-13:32 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: NIce Dasher UNi But?? (AWOUCH!!!)
MESSAGE: Pay a visit to Zug as well so you can see the Zug Unimatic. Good to hear Al is doing so well, but I wonder who the naughty one of the two of you is.
Still having some connection problems somewhere in Holland
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Post# 7550-10/25/2001-13:47 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Thats it!
MESSAGE: I’m sorry to hear you’ve decided to leave Applianceville Steve (SteveD), you have been a valued member and you will be missed, but I still wish you would reconsider.
Personally I don’t think the tone of this forum has changed that much since our early beginnings in Yahoo, but occasionally a particular message thread does get out of hand and people become less patient and less polite with their postings. Usually when this happens I just ignore it and move on to the next post. This is not unique to our Applianceville in any way shape or form. I have been monitoring some of the other forums recently and found many active, long-term members are leaving those places too for similar reasons that Steve has stated in his post. I think one of the problems of these forums is that they are all faceless, which makes it a little easier to forget our manners and say what we’re really thinking, as opposed to a face to face meeting which would produce a more “smoothed-out”, polite version. I know this is going to sound silly, but it’s kind of like the episode of Bewitched when Endora gave Darrin a statue with a truth spell on it. This spell prevented humans from being able to lie, even tell little white-lies, when they came into the immediate vicinity of this statue. As you can all imagine, this made for one disastrous situation similar to what occasionally happens here and on the other forums.
Now, yes I could delete those types of posts, and yes I could ban those particular members from logging-in but I really don’t want to do that. While I won’t mention the specific forum by name, but there is another internet forum set up for people like us who have an uncommon interest. I’ve heard a rumor that the Web-Master of this forum has much tighter controls over the rules and who can post. One rude or inappropriate post and you’re banned from posting for good! I’m sort of just repeating what I heard about this place so don’t take it as gospel. While I have no proof if this really is the case in that unnamed forum, whether it is or not, I totally disagree with this type of tight controls. Forced politeness and behavior might make for a pleasant forum experience, but how boring, it makes the forum become just like gray corporate life, YUK. In the long run this makes for a very much less active club, which averages about 5 posts a day, if that, and sometimes they can go for days without posts. One of the many things that makes our club exciting is the high amount of high-energy posts being read and responded to, whether you agree with what has been said or not. This is only magnified by the fact that most of us Appliancevillers have spent a lot of our lives placing energy towards our passion for appliances and this is obvious in all of our posts.
Applianceville is as diverse as any other town or city, just we have a common bond and I feel it’s important for us to stay together. For one thing, when it comes to appliances no one else will pay us any mind. Every one has a different idea of what being polite means and its very hard to tell exactly how people mean things by their written words. So in order to thoroughly enjoy these forums we all need to be a little thick skinned otherwise its going to not be a pleasant experience. We also need to be patient with new members as they might not know the “ropes” as well as other, but we don’t want to discourage them. I suspect that we will have more new members in the future as I’m noticing that with each passing week the amount of users passing through our web site statistics seems to be consistently growing.
All in all I think this is a great place to be, I mean how many other cyber clubs do you know of that can plan and pull off a convention that consists of members coming from all over the world! I’ve never seen any other forum that could do that. That in itself says a lot about Applianceville and its members YAY.
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Post# 7551-10/25/2001-13:55 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Has anyone ever seen one of these?? (It was the 61 plymouth)
MESSAGE: I like the description of the '61 Plymouth in Consumer Guide's "Complete History of Chrysler":
"When the finless 1961 standard Plymouth appeared, it seemed like an almost cynical rebuke to the make's recent past. 'Howitzer-shell' taillamps were thoughtlessly stuck on the sides of scalloped rear fenders, and the swollen nose was marked by extensions of a heavy front fender bulge swept forward over the headlamps and inward, thus outlining a grille of almost indescribable ugliness."
In regard to the early Kaiser-Frazers, I don't think they were much worse than the rest of the pack of early post-war designs.
No worse, in my *opinion*, than the Nashes or Hudsons or Packards. I think the Henry J was a cute design, but then I like the early Neon and Ford Focus (ZX3) designs as well. I don't care much for the Kaiser-Darrin sports car. I think the little V wedge grille looks ridiculous and the sliding doors a waste of space. And that "Darrin-dip" roofline over the windshield looks like Joan Crawford's widow's peak. Yeech!
The redesigned Kaiser/Frazers have front ends that are somewhat like that of the great Studebaker Starliner Coupe, which of course I think takes the prize for the best looking car of the 50's.
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Post# 7552-10/25/2001-14:01 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Thats it!
MESSAGE: Good policy, Robert, and I think one of the reasons why your efforts here are so successful.
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Post# 7553-10/25/2001-14:58 ||| rapidry1000 (San Francisco)
SUBJECT:
RE: Thats it!
MESSAGE: Thank you Robert for your comments. I agree with you. I can't wait to read the posts every time I log on even though I'm not an active poster.
Jim (rapidry1000)
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Post# 7554-10/25/2001-15:16 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Thats it!
MESSAGE: I think maybe everyone should just take a long deep breath and exhale. With what's been happening around the country and the world maybe we should be coming together instead of appart. Everyone has a differnet view of things. I learned this very fast working for the police department! You have a idea, I have another one, that's what makes the world go around. I feel we all have the right to agree that we disagree and leave it at that! We are very unique people here in this club and be happy that we found each other. Until this club I though I was the only person in world who like washing machines and in reading your posts you start to realize how simular we are, from childhood memories to the way we use our machines, and the type of machine we like and use. Think of how boring it would be if all you could buy was one type/brand of washer. Since 9/11/01 I've statred to view things a little differently and noticed a very big change also here in NYC, most people seem to be more friendly and willing to help out, and have become more agreeable, hard to believe in a city of cold hearted people! Please all of you take step back breath deep, exhale slowly! It helps. I personally am very happy that I've had the great luck to have met you all!
"Brooklyn Robert"
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Post# 7555-10/25/2001-16:26 ||| appliguy (Vienna Va.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Beautiful Easy machine (that is the same company that made Huppmobiles)
MESSAGE: The Hupp Corporation that owned Easy when it went out of business was the same company that had mad Huppmobile cars until the late 1930's
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Post# 7556-10/25/2001-17:02 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
Names without a face
MESSAGE: What if Robert is able to add facial pics to our profiles, or even to our posts, so that we can have a more human side to the club? We'd probably be the first club that has facial pics with each post.
Please note: I say FACIAL pics for a reason. I want to see Jetcone's face when I post that I want to slap it! No agitators, pulsators, lit cycle knobs -- must be a face!
-ph
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Post# 7557-10/25/2001-17:04 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pic of the Day - two pics in one!
MESSAGE: I always liked those Hotpoint models.
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Post# 7558-10/25/2001-17:28 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Thats it!
MESSAGE: If anybody thinks Applianceville sometimes gets a bit naughty and haughty and snippy, you should see some of what goes on from time-to-time in the Community Forum on the ISP I use! Local politics, national politics, religion, and other such topics generate the most heat. There are Moderators who can delete or edit posts that are particularly objectionable (profanity, etc.) or inflammatory, but that doesn't need to be done very often. Once in a while a "newbie" will push the line to see how far he can get with it, but they learn quickly enough. Some of the "regulars" there have been posting for upwards of four years and know each other's on-line persona very well, and of course some of them know each other on a personal basis. I've been personally attacked a couple times, once by one of the most idiotic members we have there (she has several nicknames and often has conversations with herself that are truly from somewhere off-world). I've gotten upset enough a few times to stop posting there for a while, but I always keep reading. 8-)
Applianceville is a unique and special association. As in any group, there will be conflicts and abrasions and differing opinions, but one must be able to look beyond that and keep in mind what brought the group together. I've had a smashing good time here (and at Yahoo), and continue looking forward to checking the new posts every day, as well as 'scoping out the latest treats Robert cooks up for us.
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Post# 7559-10/25/2001-18:12 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Beautiful Easy machine (Ooops, Other Way Around)
MESSAGE: Sorry Robert, right. It is dangerous to try to function on two hours of sleep. So after the Beam machines, Easy automatics were never made by Easy? How did AMC get machines from Easy if Easy was not making washers, I wonder. John said the AMCs were Easys, at least I think that's what he said. confused Tom
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Post# 7560-10/25/2001-18:13 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Find (pink KA mixers)
MESSAGE: OMG, the color wouldn't be titty pink would it, or areola rose?
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Post# 7561-10/25/2001-18:14 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Thats it! (Applianceville is safe compared to other forums)
MESSAGE: First of all, I love applianceville and I'm not going to leave even when the posts get mean. I don't put myself into those posts or set myself up to be flamed.
As many of you know that I'm still young and don't know much about appliances or vintage detergents, other than I love them I hope to own a few more antique machines.
The only problem I have ever had (and this is probably just me) is that sometimes I feel like I'm being ignored or "left out" of things because of my lack of knowledge, etc. Maybe that's just insecurity. But I have learned lots about old and new appliances from reading all those informative posts I've seen from Uni, Tomturbo, and quite a few others.
I don't "hate" any certain brand of washing machine. I like them all. Maytags to GE to WP to Frigidaire. Sure, some brands are better than others but they're all still washing machines and very fascinating.
"click"
Hold that thought
"clunk, gurgle gurgle gurgle... shake shake shake"
Whew, OK I'm back. Anyway, SteveD, I'm sorry to see you go as I was going to ask you how do you tweak a Frigmore's water level, as I'm getting one soon. I thought about leaving recently because I have really not much to give this club except for fond memories of old washers, but I'm having too much fun here to quit. I don't have much in common with you guys but it's still fun being friends with you all.
That's my 2c .
Shake it, Whirly!
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Post# 7562-10/25/2001-18:22 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: GE Americana fridge
MESSAGE: I was fixing a PC in the mechanic shop today and I just realized what kind of fridge they have in their office. A copper brown GE Americana side by side fridge. Not restored but working and looking good. If y'all want some pics I can get some tomorrow and upload them.
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Post# 7563-10/25/2001-18:26 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Has anyone ever seen one of these?? (It was the 61 plymouth)
MESSAGE: My second grade teacher had a Packard Clipper. It had a neat little cast metal ship's wheel on the side where it said CLIPPER. Cliper would have been a good car for a mohel to drive (they are the ones who do Jewish male genital mutilations). Anyway this car was a dusty rose color and she parked it parallel to the curb on the drive in front of the school where I walked past it twice a day for many years. I have no idea what year it was. It was large and did not look out of date in the late 50s-early 60s with its flowing lines like say a Hudson or Mercury from the same period, at least to my eyes. I remember grown ups talking about cars when I was younger and Pakcards used to be quite the car to drive before the war.
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Post# 7564-10/25/2001-18:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - two pics in one!
MESSAGE: Interesting facts on the Hotpoint/GE change. I wonder why they kept both lines - CR reports in 1969 that the GE washer used 44 gal. water compared with 48 for the Hotpoint.
By the way, it's probably a good thing you didn't pick up that Westinghouse washer from that sale a couple of weeks ago - with a water usage of a whopping 57 gallons, your water bill would have given you a good scare!
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Post# 7565-10/25/2001-18:31 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Beautiful Easy machine (Ooops, Other Way Around)
MESSAGE: Hi Tom, poor dear only 2 hours, hope it was fun :>. No AMC's were made by the company that produced the Beam components. Easy Machines were first Beams, then they were Velva-Power machines, they in about '65 they were made by Hotpoint until Easy went out of business in the 70's.
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Post# 7566-10/25/2001-18:36 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Thats it! (Applianceville is safe compared to other forums)
MESSAGE: Jason, wrong Steve. Steve B is 1-18 man and FL water level man. Steve D is dishwasher expert man, a kind gentle soul whom I am sorry to see leave. Both are great guys as are the Majority of people here, a formerly tortured, lonely minority who has found safe harbor in a place where others finally share our great passion for appliances. We need to make sure that we stand together because we don't have an alternative in a world that does not appreciate appliance wonders like we do.
Was that the WP draining or you? The shakes at the end could go with either. TT
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Post# 7567-10/25/2001-18:37 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Thats it! (Oh Please, You've Given Us Plenty)
MESSAGE: JasonL stop that right this minute Mister. You have been a boon to this club in more ways than one. First of all you do have quite a bit of knowledge of what everyone is talking about plus you share your experiences, which is what we’re all here for. Second of all, if it wasn’t for you, I would have never learned (at least not yet) about the Windows Media Encoder. It was that piece of knowledge that you gave us that allowed me to put all those wonderful commercials onto our web site and contributed and enormous amount of fun to Classic Appliances. Thank for you that and everything else you have contributed - YAY for JasonL!
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Post# 7568-10/25/2001-18:39 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Americana fridge
MESSAGE: You should see the original Americana fridge. Robert, is there a picture of John's up in West VA? Jason, it has French doors at the top, then a lighted work counter and below that, a roll out freezer. It was sorta designed to look like the Americana ranges of the time where you had a glass door oven over the cooking surface and then an oven beneath. later Americana came to be GE's TOL designation. TT
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Post# 7569-10/25/2001-18:40 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - two pics in one!
MESSAGE: They did? That's strange, I wonder if they were using the GE design before '72. Hhhmmmmmm, more research to be done. There is no way that a solid basket Hotpoint could use 48 gallons of water. What did they say about the Hotpoint Greg in that report, did they talk about poor sand disposal, that's usually a key to whether its a solid basket or not?
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Post# 7570-10/25/2001-18:41 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Thats it!
MESSAGE: Thanks Robert, we all appreciate your hard work and the diplomacy necessary to moderate such an endeavor.
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Post# 7571-10/25/2001-18:42 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Beautiful Easy machine (Ooops, Other Way Around)
MESSAGE: I believe I saw the shocking pink KA mixer at a culinary supply boutique in downtown SF a month or two ago. It wasn't my style, I prefer the all-white version to any tinted copy. Now, if they just made it in a brushed stainless version... I think there is a chrome version.
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Post# 7572-10/25/2001-18:43 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Thats it! (OH)
MESSAGE: Sorry about that. Wrong Steve. Thanks for the info.
Yes, that's the WP draining. I put in brackets (they didn't display) that I was running over to make the WP spin drain. It basically does "gurgle" a whole lot then when the water's gone it starts to shaking. I'm going to get some thick plywood and place it underneath the machines, also, I will fasten the plywood to the floor joists for more support. That should quiet Whirly a bit.
Whirly and I shared a drain together, yes.
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Post# 7573-10/25/2001-18:43 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Americana fridge (Your wish is my command)
MESSAGE: Hi Tom, but of course there is...
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/tomturbomatic/vwp?.dir=/4-Collection+-John%27s+West+Virginia+House&.dnm=Unusual+GE+Refrigerator.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 7574-10/25/2001-18:45 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Thats it! (YAY for me?)
MESSAGE: Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Cool. Windows Media rocks.
You're quite welcome. I'm glad I got to contribute some things.
Classic Appliances rule
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Post# 7575-10/25/2001-18:46 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT: RE: Thats it! (Newbies)
MESSAGE: Well, as another newbie here (but not quite as young -- unfortunately), I'm probably the last one qualified to give advice -- but it's never stopped me before, so what the hell...
I've never restored a classic appliance. Don't even own any. The closest I have is a Norge halogen smooth top range (circa 1990). I do have memories. Me playing with a toy washing machine (the same translucent set you have in your pic gansky1). Me watching my stuffed rabbit tumble around in the old front loader we had (and crying). A picture of me standing in the back garden with an agitator on my head (my mother still has the picture --- and I still send money each month in a brown unmarked envelope...). A laundry room experience during puberty that has forever solidified the Frigidaire Jet Cone's place in my heart... (the smell of Cling Free still makes me hot). It's nice to know of people that can understand these things (although I may still have a hard time explaining that last one).
Hopefully we have something to offer. If not, well, we can absorb and learn, maybe have more to offer later. In any case, it should be a fun ride (like that Frigidaire on a spin cycle).
So stick around.
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Post# 7576-10/25/2001-18:47 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - two pics in one!
MESSAGE: Yup - poor sand disposal and the in-agitator lint filter mechanism that may need periodic cleaning which could prove to be difficult. They also mentioned the fill-select button - a sure solid basket design.
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Post# 7577-10/25/2001-18:48 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Has anyone ever seen one of these?? (It was the 61 plymouth)
MESSAGE: Those later Packards weren't so bad. The early postwar Packards however, tried to plaster a downsized classic Packard grille on a bathtub chassis. The result was something that sort of resembled a turtle.
The tragedy about Packard, as I understand it, is that the US government coerced Packard into giving away all their classic automobile designs to the Russians during WWII. The Soviets made a thinly disguised Packard limo for years that bigwigs like Stalin would be chauffered around in. There was an example of this, a Zis limo, at the Blackhawk Museum here in Danville. Anyway, after the war Packard was forced to come up with an entirely new design, which really wasn't all that successful. They later merged with Studebaker and together they sank like a lead weight.
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Post# 7578-10/25/2001-18:48 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Americana fridge (WOW!!!!)
MESSAGE: What an awesome fridge! I'm very attached to my Grandpa's 1949 GE Spacemaker Fridge. I want it when he's ready to get rid of it. I'll take pics of it.
The fridge at work is just a side by side. It's a good fridge though. Copper brown is the color. Love the 70s baby yeah!
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Post# 7579-10/25/2001-18:48 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Beautiful Easy machine (Ooops, Other Way Around)
MESSAGE: Robert we went to B&S about 11. We found a set of Catylists thrown out. They were already stacked on that little white trash trailer you have seen up there. Getting the dryer down was easy, but the washer was at the botton. We had to move stuff and I fell off the side of the thing (my usual poetry in motion). Anyway we got the set and John said both work. We also found a sunshine yellow GE 30 inch range with self cleaning oven (heavy), a sellable HP dryer and an almond GE slide in range with controls on the front. When I showed it to John, he said he already had a sale for that exact range. It ws only after I got back that I checked the line at work and found out that they had decided to open today. Tired, slightly sore Tom
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Post# 7580-10/25/2001-18:50 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - two pics in one!
MESSAGE: I can't see how it could have possibly used 48 gallons of water then, I wonder if its a type and should be 38? Who knows?
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Post# 7581-10/25/2001-18:53 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Names without a face
MESSAGE: If everyone likes this idea and is willing to have a little tiny picture of their face next to their names in the posts, I can probably figure out a way to do it.
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Post# 7582-10/25/2001-18:53 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Beautiful Easy machine (Ooops, Other Way Around)
MESSAGE: I will tell you a nasty secret about the KA mixers in any thing but white: You can go crazy trying to wipe flour dust off them. With white the little bits don't show, but with the chrome and dark colors, the streaks and film can drive you round the bend. The white one you can just wipe with the sudsy dish cloth and dry. The others you have to wash, rinse and polish dry. Life is too short here in my house for that.
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Post# 7583-10/25/2001-18:55 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - two pics in one!
MESSAGE: The line of stats for the Hotpoint is exactly the same for the Easy also. Hmmmmm....
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Post# 7584-10/25/2001-18:55 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Americana fridge (Your wish is my command)
MESSAGE: Robert, thank you. Jason the little plastic cage inside is the crisper. TT
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Post# 7585-10/25/2001-18:58 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Beautiful Easy machine (Ooops, Other Way Around)
MESSAGE: My thoughts exactly - I've had a white model for years and love it, but I have clients that have other colors and they are a pain in the butt to keep clean - even dust in the cracks and crevices is a pain.
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Post# 7586-10/25/2001-18:58 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Beautiful Easy machine (White KA's and ice cream freezers)
MESSAGE: I made lots of ice cream with my mom's KA. Those are just so cool. Speaking of classic appliances, I do have an old 1961 Porter ice cream freezer if anyone wants to see. It works great, makes great ice cream, but needs resto. I'm going to see if the machine shop at work can make a stainless steel inner basket for it.
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Post# 7587-10/25/2001-19:00 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - two pics in one! (1969 CU washer report)
MESSAGE: I would scan this and post it, but I'm having a problem with my scanner and getting things to come out right that are printed on magazine slick - I tried 10 times or more to scan that GE ad for the museum wallpaper, but it never came out well enough to even see the whole control panel.
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Post# 7588-10/25/2001-19:00 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Beautiful Easy machine (Ooops, Other Way Around)
MESSAGE: Just a like a white car - much easier to keep clean and the white minimizes the appearance of dings and dents.
For all you appliance lovers out there, any painted metal surface will benefit from treatment with standard automotive cleaners, polish, and final wax. The cleaner removes the dirt and surface imperfections. The polish smooths things out and has oils that nourish the paint, give it a smooth, dust-repelling finish. The wax helps prolong the effects of the polishing by providing a thin barrier between air and paint. Best stuff is Meguir's. A combo cleaner/polish/wax in a bottle will also work, but not as well as the three-part treatment (think shampoo with conditioner vs. separate shampoo and separate conditioner).
I treated my large Harvest Nutone range hood (matches the Filter-flo!) with the three-part Meguiars, and I was astonished at how well it repelled dust and kitchen soot, and made cleaning it off much easier.
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Post# 7589-10/25/2001-19:01 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Thats it! (Newbies)
MESSAGE: Ah, yes the laundry room experience. When the laundromat attendant advises you that you can observe the spinning best by standing so that your front is against the machine's front, you will know you have found one of the recruitment laundromats and can ask about your personal copy of the encyclopedia. And, as far as the agitator picture, it was on a far less embarrassing part of your body than some agitator situations I can think of.
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Post# 7590-10/25/2001-19:04 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Has anyone ever seen one of these?? (It was the 61 plymouth)
MESSAGE: Still remember a neighbor's Hawk. So ahead of its time. Loved the story on Death Valley Days of a young man who made quite a reputation for himself buiding wagons. His name was Johnny Studebaker. The old Ranger told us that at the end of the program.
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Post# 7591-10/25/2001-19:04 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Thats it!
MESSAGE: Sure there are forums with more snippiness and tension, but I believe Applianceville has cornered the market on posters who just plain like to agitate!
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Post# 7592-10/25/2001-19:05 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Beautiful Easy machine (Ooops, Other Way Around)
MESSAGE: Cornstarch in those same areas can prevent painful burning, irritation and itching.
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Post# 7593-10/25/2001-19:07 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Thats it!
MESSAGE: You sound like a man who's taken for a tumble or two yourself.
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Post# 7594-10/25/2001-19:29 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Thats it!
MESSAGE: Yes, but I know how to keep my cracks and crevices clean.
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Post# 7595-10/25/2001-19:38 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Thats it!
MESSAGE: Depends on the crack or crevice, sometimes a toothbrush is effective, other times a bath puff works nicely. The one golden rule is "No Abrasives" for delicate finishes ;-)
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Post# 7596-10/25/2001-19:54 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Thats it!
MESSAGE: I must agree with this - we have many more similarities than differences - our interest is our common bond and we need to remember this when expressing different points of view. Whether we agree with a particular viewpoint of not, there is something to be learned from everyone - - that is the beauty of the open forum. And if a particular thread occasionally runs "off track", so what?? There is no harm in that - after all, communication is a two way process - aren't we here to listen (graciously and gererously)as well as speak??
While I also agree that an open forum must not be censored and people should be truthful and forthright, we must above all be respectful when we address each other - there really isn't a place for value judgements or condescending phraseology or comments. I'd like to believe that we can disagree without being disagreeable. I also seem to remember a previous posting where I suggested that with everything going on these days, perhaps we should be kinder to each other and ourselves.
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Post# 7597-10/25/2001-19:57 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's Find (pink KA mixers)
MESSAGE: Don't know, but if I can find out, I will keep you "abreast"
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Post# 7598-10/25/2001-20:03 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Thats it! (Applianceville is safe compared to other forums)
MESSAGE: I forgot to mention that I am impressed beyond words with the depth of knowledge and creativity I have seen since joining this forum. Whether it is the computer graphics, or the general knowledge, the sleuthing skills in finding those great vintage detergents or appliances, and of course the skill that goes into rebuilding those apliances ( I still look at the pictures of the Automagic restoration with awe), you are pretty remarkable guys..............
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Post# 7599-10/25/2001-20:04 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Beautiful Easy machine (Ooops, Other Way Around)
MESSAGE: I have not seen a brushed stainless version, but I did see a rough finish grey metal version............
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Post# 7600-10/25/2001-20:08 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Americana fridge (Your wish is my command)
MESSAGE: Outstanding!!!!
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Post# 7601-10/25/2001-20:11 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Pic of the Day - two pics in one!
MESSAGE: Ah, yes, who could ever forget Hotpoint's famous "Fountain Filter" - fun to watch, but a nightmare to clean!
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Post# 7602-10/25/2001-20:15 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Beautiful Easy machine (Ooops, Other Way Around)
MESSAGE: Sad but true. I bake a lot and much as I love the cobalt blue, I am ready to kill myself. And of course, there is an even newer color - Martha's (guess who??????) green!!!!! No kidding - that is actually the name of the color.......
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Post# 7603-10/25/2001-20:18 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Beautiful Easy machine (Ooops, Other Way Around)
MESSAGE: Actually reminds me that every other week, Mom would wash all her appliances and give them a coat of Jubilee wax. I recall that she claimed it made daily clean up much easier - food and stuff didn't stick so badly.
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Post# 7604-10/25/2001-20:20 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Thats it!
MESSAGE: Oh, you little scamps - spank, spank..................
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Post# 7605-10/25/2001-20:29 ||| JETCONE (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Thats it! (Please Reconsider Your Decision)
MESSAGE: Robert has framed the club position ,I think, eloquently.
It is very important to remember in any human endeavor throughout history where more than two people were involved there has ALWAYS been snags. But thats just what they are snags. You pick up and go on. Don't throw everything away. Robert is right the written word carries alot more force to us than conversation. That is an engrained western cultural legacy we all carry and cannot change. In direct contrast, this forum is really a long big conversation about our passions with appliances. No one should feel that their position on appliances is alien and has no place here. ( Yes that means we should allow "Washer Krushers" to speak their minds about crushing! )
Also if there isn't a little dissent & disagreement now and
then, then we might as well all vote ourselves out of existence and leave the appliances to the communists. From where I sit ,what Chad was doing, and what just happened between you two appear to me to be worlds apart. Trickery and deceit are one thing, disagreement on color scales and names is just a debate. Personally, I find a raging discussion stimulating. I just had a HUGE one with a friend of 30 years over the current world situation! But we would never ever consider dropping each other.30 Years is alot of shared experiences.
Now it is true we are all in shock after the events of Sept.11! That is a medical fact. It does affect everything we do and feel whether we choose to aknowledge it or not. So that means all major decisions should be held up to the light of reason and carefully weighed after the fact and before any commitments are made.
Robert is not the only one working hard here to build a club. There are many of us here. We are building a home in the world for us. And hopefully for the future yunguns coming along who are right now toddling up to their warm Fridgemore windows getting their first glimpse of laundry flopping around inside that big stainless steel drum.
In that spririt SteveD I would ask you too reconsider your decision and your conclusions about Classic Appliances. I hope we can ALL say welcome back.
\Jon Charles - JETCONE
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Post# 7606-10/25/2001-20:31 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Thats it! (Newbies)
MESSAGE: Oh my - do you have pics to post?
Now that would be a fun wallpaper!
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Post# 7607-10/25/2001-20:32 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Thats it!
MESSAGE: I know we do have our differences, but I know we try to get along because we do have our own beliefs and opinions based on our own experiences. I worry that the attitude sometimes may turn others off that might be interested in joining. Maybe it's just me and my soft Bear personality, I just can't help it. It grieves me deeply we've lost two long-standing, pioneering members this one week.
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Post# 7608-10/25/2001-21:58 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: Update on me
MESSAGE: Today I had to have my staples taken out to avoid potential complications with my incision. I now have railroad tracks on my belly from my diaphragm to mid-lower belly. (Yeah, some guy's gonna really find that attractive some day LOL). I'm down to 180 pounds, had been about 195 at the convention. (What a helluva way to lose weight). I'm now eating soft foods, progressing from a liquid diet. Thanks for all the concern and love. Bob
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Post# 7609-10/25/2001-22:06 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Thats it! (I agree with you completely!!)
MESSAGE: Robert, and Brooklyn Robert you have both said it all so well. I really don't feel like I have lots to offer the club but on occasion I do post and ask for advice. Even with my lack of knowledge I have never felt that anyone has been anything but great!! I was a little unsure about attending the convention but everyone there made me feel so welcomed and connected. This happening from a group of strangers says a lot to me. Everyday I realize just how lucky I was to discover this group. Let's face it there are not a lot of us out there that love old appliances and we are very lucky to have this group. Robert has done a fantastic job in bringing us together and again I say thank-you so very much. Just my two cents worth. Terry
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Post# 7610-10/25/2001-22:14 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Update on me
MESSAGE: Glad to hear you are getting better Bob! Don't worry about the tracks, after about a year they kinda go away.
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Post# 7611-10/25/2001-22:24 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's Find (Puns)
MESSAGE: Okay Tony & Rich, I'll give you the abreast and agitate puns given I'm recovering, but I will return with my wit in full tact soon!! LOL And you will all be fully punished (slap).
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Post# 7612-10/25/2001-22:31 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Thats it! (Please Reconsider Your Decision)
MESSAGE: Jon, a heart-felt, from the bottom of it, thank you for such an eloquent statesman response. You made me cry. I don't know if Steve will read this, but somehow I will convey it to him.
Bob
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Post# 7613-10/25/2001-22:37 ||| Washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT: RE: Thats it! (Newbies)
MESSAGE: Yes, nights at the laundromat. Great way to meet. "Can I buy you a softener?" "What's your cycle?" "Anything, but Delicate..."
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Post# 7614-10/25/2001-22:54 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Thats it! (Newbies)
MESSAGE: Yes, the orinal washers in those laundromats were the Apex with the bouncing basket LOL (I'll slap myself)!
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Post# 7615-10/25/2001-22:57 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Thats it! (Newbies)
MESSAGE: Ya got that right.
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Post# 7616-10/25/2001-23:37 ||| Lenny (Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT: RE: Thats it! (Thank you Applianceville!)
MESSAGE: I also feel fortunate to be a member, although a new one, here at Applianceville. I always felt a bit strange that I held this uncanny interest in washing machines and appliances in general. I've met some wonderful people here who share my same 'uncommon'interest. There will always be disagreements among groups and heated discussions about one system vs. the next. But, in general its great to be a member here and share thoughts and ideas on a common interest thread. I hope Applianceville is long lived and continues to add enjoyment and education to our shared appliance passion.
Lenny
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Post# 7617-10/26/2001-05:59 ||| JETCONE (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Thats it! (Thanks Bob.)
MESSAGE: Sounds like you are on the mend now. Heres to a healthy winter for you!
jon & AL ( who ,I might add, is still in bed!) lazydog!
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Post# 7618-10/26/2001-06:23 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Update on me
MESSAGE: Forget the tracks - you're alive, getting healthy. Soon the tracks will go away - - and if the tracks are all that matter to someone, you probably shouldn't be dating them anyway!!! XO
Anthony
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Post# 7619-10/26/2001-06:25 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Thats it! (Newbies)
MESSAGE: One that always worked for me was "are you a top or front" (loader, that is...........)
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Post# 7620-10/26/2001-06:26 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Thats it! (Newbies)
MESSAGE: Only one of the reasons I miss our one laundromat (washeteria to you in the South) that was equipped with Frigidaires - ned I say more?
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Post# 7621-10/26/2001-07:42 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT: RE: Thats it! (Newbies)
MESSAGE: Those pictures happened much later -- when I did a spread for Laundro-Mate.
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Post# 7622-10/26/2001-08:04 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Thats it! (down at the warshateria)
MESSAGE: "Yee haw! lookit all them warshin' machines!"
"yeah and lookit those front loadin' ones. I bet you can put 20 cats up 'ere in that ma-sheen"
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Post# 7623-10/26/2001-12:29 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Thats it! (Newbies)
MESSAGE: don't forget this pick-up line:
"What's your sign?"
"Slippery when wet..."
-ph
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Post# 7624-10/26/2001-12:31 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Beautiful Easy machine (thru the 70's)
MESSAGE: A friend of mine had an Easy washer in the late 70's that was most definitely a WCI machine.
-ph
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Post# 7625-10/26/2001-12:32 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: POD Halo of heat (humor)
MESSAGE: ...For the woman who wants a dryer that's fast but gentle on cats, too.
New Halo of Heat dryer will leave your cat all nice and fluffy. New gentle action will make sure your cat tumbles vigorously but safely. No more broken bones! Also, no scorched fur like those "one hot spot" dryers.
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Post# 7626-10/26/2001-12:35 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: beware of Dreft
MESSAGE: I know we just had an Ivory Snow/Flakes conversation. Someone had left about a half a box of Dreft at the 'mat, so when it wasn't claimed after about a month, I bought it home to try. In a 1-18 set for a water level halfway between small and normal, this stuff produced enough suds to come up over the sub top and cause a major spin stopping suds lock. What a mess! I've never seen suds like this. So all I can say is BEWARE OF DREFT!!!
-ph
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Post# 7627-10/26/2001-12:38 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Update on me
MESSAGE: Glad you are mending well, Bob! You be up to level in no time!
-ph
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Post# 7628-10/26/2001-13:00 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: beware of Dreft
MESSAGE: Peter, I guess you've never done diapers before. I always use to use dreft. Yup, mega suds. No wonder you had to triple rinse. LOL But got the stuff clean and soft in the end.
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Post# 7629-10/26/2001-15:16 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Update on me
MESSAGE: Hi Bob
Glad you are feeling a bit better! You've really gone through the wringer! Don't worry about your scar turning a guy off...just get a felt-tip pen and you can both play tic-tac-toe. :-)
Rich
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Post# 7630-10/26/2001-15:20 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Update on me
MESSAGE: Also, Bob....if you keep losing weight you may end up with a "washboard" belly...hehe
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Post# 7631-10/26/2001-15:28 ||| Lenny (Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT: RE: beware of Dreft (Pink Dreft Memories)
MESSAGE: ph:
Dreft is another product I remember well from years back. I think Dreft was P&G's synthetic counterpart to its Ivory Snow/Flakes pure baby laundry line. To my knowledge Dreft was always a mild 'detergent' rather than a 'soap' product. I remember it being a teriffic shade of pink/peach powder way back when. I believe its just white today right? Also, I believe it has 'borax' or some type of water softener in it for rinsability which may constitute for the megasuds! Maybe I'll buy a box of Dreft just for the fun/memories of that teriffic scent - but thats probably changed too!
Lenny
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Post# 7632-10/26/2001-16:18 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Update on me
MESSAGE: I'm glad to hear things are looking up Bob! Take care of yourself, it's nice to see you're silly puns again!
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Post# 7633-10/26/2001-16:18 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: beware of Dreft (Pink Dreft Memories)
MESSAGE: Scent of Dreft has definitely changed. Now it has a very definite baby powderish scent, not unlike the "new"Ivory Snow detergent. I'm not sure I quite understand the purpose of P&G having two baby detergents - I mean when Ivory Snow was a soap, it made sense since Dreft was a synthetic detergent. But now why do you need two? Perhaps it is because Ivory is now marketed as a product more for fine fabrics as opposed to baby specific - as Dreft is now. Funny, but Dreft was the original synthetic detergent introduced in 1933. It was marketed as a product for fine fabrics - funny switch.........
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Post# 7634-10/26/2001-17:03 ||| JETCONE (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: beware of Dreft (Lets put some in Uni's Bendix!!!!!!)
MESSAGE: Peter you mean "don't dribble with Dreft"? "Don't Dabble with Dreft"?
I'd love to see it in Roberts Bendix!!!!!!!!
jon
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Post# 7635-10/26/2001-17:48 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: A New Face For Our Site
MESSAGE: After all thats gone on here and in the world I decided its time for a face life for us. Refresh your home page to see our new, easier to use interface. Having our new animation running 24 hours a day is wasting a lot of water, but at least cyber water is free! LOL.
I'm open for more design suggestions for our continually evolving home.
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Post# 7636-10/26/2001-17:49 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: Caution - Webmaster at Work!
MESSAGE: Beware pulsating pulsators!
Lovely!
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Post# 7637-10/26/2001-17:51 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Caution - Webmaster at Work!
MESSAGE: And careful of overflow rinses in progress!
8-)
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Post# 7638-10/26/2001-19:14 ||| trainguy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: A New Face For Our Site (I'm Speechless!)
MESSAGE: Uni, Your new home page is outstanding! I actually thought I heard the machine pulsate. I'm no computer whiz at all, but you had to have put a great deal of time (along with your heart) into this site. I check out the posts at least three times a day. And even though I'm extremely shy about posting messages, I enjoy the conversations and information just the same. I'm so thankful PH introduced me to Applianceville. Thanks so much for the wonderful job. And I'd also like to thank everyone else for all the help since I joined, and making me feel like part of a family. Rich
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Post# 7639-10/26/2001-19:46 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: A New Face For Our Site
MESSAGE: OH MY GOD....Robert, you have totally outdone yourself this time! I can't believe my eyes! Our home page is not only beautiful, but amazing! I love it! I love it! I love it! My excitement is overflowing just like the Unimatic over-flow rinse! Thank you so much for all the work you do for our enjoyment!
Rich
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Post# 7640-10/26/2001-20:04 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT: RE: A New Face For Our Site
MESSAGE: Great graphic - and that's one beautiful machine!
Thanks!
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Post# 7641-10/26/2001-20:38 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: A New Face For Our Site
MESSAGE: What a truly beautiful facelift! Budding young "Appliancevillers" will shriek with joy upon finding their new home!
Takes your breath away, very nice work! Many thanks again. Greg
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Post# 7642-10/26/2001-20:52 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: A New Face For Our Site
MESSAGE: Hi guys!
Love the new home page. Perhaps it's too much to ask Robert, but how about that slight tub indexing as a Unimatic machine pulsates? Can't you get it to go a bit back and forth too! Perhaps too much of an electronic challenge.
Just kidding Robert. Great work!!
-Ken
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Post# 7643-10/26/2001-21:23 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Update on me (misc. ramblings)
MESSAGE: Hi Bob.
Wish I had posted sooner, but I've kept up with your health situation. I hope you continue to make progress in your recovery and feel better each and every day! As usual I've been watching the posts from the sidelines.
As of late, I haven't had much to say, but continue enjoy the club nontheless. I suppose if I wanted to leave the club I guess it wouldn't be necessary to make a dramatic public announcement!
The only advice I can offer other club members is to keep sarcastic or biting comments to a minimum. Most of us are the "sensitive" type (what does he mean by that?), and it's easy to take a comment the wrong way and perhaps over react to it.
The truth be known, once you visit Applianceville you can never really leave. It's kind of like an old Twilight Zone episode. The endless "spin cycle." I suppose it's better than being constantly "agitated." Once an appliance nut, always an appliance nut.
Keep the posts coming guys. I'll do the same when I feel that I have something to say.
Best wishes,
Ken
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Post# 7644-10/26/2001-21:32 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: A New Face For Our Site
MESSAGE: Another outstanding effort and result. Thanks "loads"!!!!
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Post# 7645-10/26/2001-22:32 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: A New Face For Our Site
MESSAGE: Oh Robert!! You've outdone yourself again. I was so oversensed, it must be what a sexual experience is like. Anyway, I'm more than ecstatic to have Frigidaires washing again on the home page. And to boot, my Favorite, the WCI58 in action. Now I can truly relive doing my laundry in that machine. The layout is very easy to use and loads much faster. The picture is a KEEPER for a long time. Frigidaire GM FOREVER!!!!!!!
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Post# 7646-10/26/2001-22:34 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Update on me
MESSAGE: Well Rich, I guess that's one more thing we have in common--we've both been through the wringer (oops buddy, I just had to say it). My mind was armed with that devilish comment.
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Post# 7647-10/26/2001-22:39 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: A New Face For Our Site (New Face)
MESSAGE: Robert this is great - Thanks - I had tried to add pics with 2 links but had no luck. The system wouldn't let me delete them. Thanks for cleaning them out. I am still trying to learn how to do this. I had bought a new computer & had to send it back. But I did take appliance pictures when I was at John & Tom in May. I was able to put them on Yahoo but I want to send them out to this club. If you know of a simple way to do this please let me know. I hope to get a new computer soon and than I will try again.
Thanks Peter
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Post# 7648-10/26/2001-22:41 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: A New Face For Our Site (I'm Speechless!)
MESSAGE: Rich glad you feel this way. We ARE family. An unusual family fanatic about appliances. Chime in anytime and not when the dryer is finishing LOL.
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Post# 7649-10/26/2001-22:42 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: A New Face For Our Site (Overflow)
MESSAGE: Robert - It's a real Great Overflow Pic
Peter
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Post# 7650-10/26/2001-22:49 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: A New Face For Our Site (Overflow)
MESSAGE: Watch out for that lint & fuz overflowing. We don't want to clog the cyber plumbing. Perpetual lint away rinse. Wish I could put my laundry in the computer screen.
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Post# 7651-10/26/2001-22:49 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: Fantastic Robert
MESSAGE: Robert you have a masterpiece here!! Now all we need is sound to go with it. (LOL) YAY!!!! Terry
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Post# 7652-10/26/2001-23:05 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: A New Face For Our Site (Computer Screen)
MESSAGE: Hi App - I hope you are feeling better.
I not only want to put my laundry in I want to jump in the screen!!
Peter
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Post# 7653-10/26/2001-23:25 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: A New Face For Our Site (Loaded Pics)
MESSAGE: Well I think I did it - I established a link with the yahoo pics I taken. Guys please check out on member links. I have my old kitchen pics. I haven't taken pics of the new kitchen yet. And when I stayed in Maryland with John & Tom. The letter M in some pics indicated pics taken in appliance museum. These pics were taken in May. I hope I did ok for my 1st time posting pics.
Have a great night guys,
Peter
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Post# 7654-10/26/2001-23:32 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: A New Face For Our Site (Loaded Pics)
MESSAGE: Peter, it's working well for me. Nice to see the pics again. P.S., can't sleep, so here I am. LOL
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Post# 7655-10/26/2001-23:32 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: Attached Link
MESSAGE: I will try to add link to this page also.
I hope it works,
Peter
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/peteski50/lst?&.dir=/appliances&.src=ph&.begin=9999&.view=t&.order=&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/peteski50/lst%3f%26.dir=/appliances%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 7656-10/26/2001-23:48 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Attached Link
MESSAGE: Peter, it works just great. Can't wait to see your remodeled kitchen. Have you had any improved satisfaction with the new dishwasher???
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Post# 7657-10/26/2001-23:54 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Attached Link (new dishwasher)
MESSAGE: Yes App - I got a Kenmore tall tub also GE Advantium 120 oven
and new Kenmore range. I will take pics as soon as I can. I also hope to get a new computer soon. Right now I am using a borrowed laptop.
Than I can display more photos hopefully.
Peter
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Post# 7658-10/26/2001-00:01 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Attached Link (new dishwasher)
MESSAGE: But Peter,m I know you had some issues with the dw. Did they get resolved or not? How do you like your Advantium?
Bob
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Post# 7659-10/26/2001-00:18 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT: RE: A New Face For Our Site
MESSAGE: Yes, the new unimatic animation is really nice!
I wonder if it would be OK if I added a bit of high-phosphate Ariel to it... whatever you've got in there, it's *very* low sudsing!
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Post# 7660-10/26/2001-00:58 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Attached Link
MESSAGE: Great pictures! Thanks posting those and adding your link to the Links Section too!
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Post# 7661-10/26/2001-01:08 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Links Section
MESSAGE: I noticed the links to the convention photos that everyone uploaded to albums are gone, should we each add our own links to the section?
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Post# 7662-10/26/2001-01:59 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: A New Face For Our Site
MESSAGE: I love the new homepage, what a wonderful animation. Robert, you are a genius!
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Post# 7663-10/27/2001-02:13 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Attached Link
MESSAGE: Hello Peter,
Thank you very much for sharing the pictures. Can't wait to see some of your new kitchen!
Louis
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Post# 7664-10/27/2001-07:29 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Attached Link (Resolved)
MESSAGE: Yes Bob I did get DW issues resolved. A lot of these new DW's don't dry as well as older ones. I now need to use jetdry all the time. I was a little pissed at first because my WP portable dried very well & I put in jetdry when I remembered. I am happy with the new DW but the thing I don't like is the plastic is not made as durable as the older DW's & the heater watage has to be lower in the drying cycle because of this. When it's washing the watage can be higher because water is circulating in the tub. I feel the design could have been improved if they had put in a fan. It is a very spacious dw. Not only do I enjoy not having a tower but I love the height. I was also told on the more expensive ss models even from miele bosch and others it is still recommended using jetdry with all new models or the drying performance will be poor.
As for the Advantium I love it but GE service sux. I had to have them do a computer board update & this was a known issue. Fine I accepted that but they cancelled 3 appoitments & 1 time I waited home for 5 hours & they told me at the last minute they couldn't make it that day. I raised hell with GE but the more people I spoke to - it was just like speaking to 1 asshole after another. Than believe it or not on one call their service center was in Newdeli India. At that point I see why GE sux. The left hand don't know what the right hand is doing. But again I like the oven but I hope their is no further problem.
Peter
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Post# 7665-10/27/2001-08:44 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT: RE: A New Face For Our Site
MESSAGE: Excellent job on the new home page Uni!
Absolutly amazing!
SD
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Post# 7666-10/27/2001-08:50 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Isn't Modern Technology Just Amazing
MESSAGE: Thanks guys, I’m so glad you like our new home page. I plan on rotating the animation quite often. I created the Frigidaire using Macromedia Flash.
When I was a kid, this and the turquoise version of this ad were my favorites off them all. I would dream of having this washer as my very own. Isn’t modern technology wonderful, not only have I found the washer, but I could take this ad and literally bring it to life.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/unimatic1140/vwp?.dir=/Frigidaire&.src=ph&.dnm=1.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/unimatic1140/lst%3f%26.dir=/Frigidaire%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 7667-10/27/2001-08:50 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Attached Link
MESSAGE: Peter you're link works perfectly and the pictures are great, thanks.
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Post# 7668-10/27/2001-09:04 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: 55 KM restore in progress
MESSAGE: Love the new look of the club!!! Can't wait to explore it further. The homepage Frigidaire looks like it's a Pulsamatic on my laptop, but anything fast action is blurry on this thing.
Jason is up from FL and we have the 55 Kenmore here at the 'mat. The spanner nut and drive block came out without a problem! Looks like we need a new outer tub, as there is one major hole. The tub has a flat bottom to it, unlike Robert's LK that was kind of domed up around the center post. It does agitato and spin, altho' kinda noisily and rumbly. More to come, along with some pics.
-ph
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Post# 7669-10/27/2001-09:31 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Link to 55 KM
MESSAGE: Here's how it looked before we got into it. More to come...
-ph
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/lst?.dir=/1953+Kenmore+washer&.view=t
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Post# 7670-10/27/2001-10:16 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: 2 pics so far
MESSAGE: Jason and the outer tub...
-ph
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Post# 7671-10/27/2001-10:17 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: 2 pics so far
MESSAGE: Jason and the outer tub... With link!
-ph
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/vwp?.dir=/1953+Kenmore+washer&.src=ph&.dnm=Jason1.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/lst%3f%26.dir=/1953%2bKenmore%2bwasher%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 7672-10/27/2001-15:37 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 2 pics so far
MESSAGE: Very nice you guys. Looks like you're having fun. Boy are you lucky that the spanner nut came off easily, I had two of them that were really stuck. They changed the outer tub design in '57, my '52 Whirlpool has the same flat bottom outer tub as you Kenmore.
Fun picts, keep us posted.
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Post# 7673-10/27/2001-15:44 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Links Section (Good Idea)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg, good idea, I just added My and Jetcone's link to our pictures of the convention.
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Post# 7674-10/27/2001-16:22 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: I'm bleeding again
MESSAGE: My Dr. says to monitor what's happening. Tried solid foods last night. Hope it's just a result of that. He said to go back to liquid diet and see if bleeding will stop. If I end up going back into the hospital, I may not be able to tell y'all in time. May have to wait for Max to email Rich again.
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Post# 7675-10/27/2001-16:28 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm bleeding again
MESSAGE: Hope you get to feeling better soon.
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Post# 7676-10/27/2001-20:09 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm bleeding again
MESSAGE: Thoghts are with you - and I hope it was only last night's supper................... Good luck amigo!
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Post# 7677-10/27/2001-21:30 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: Take care Bob
MESSAGE: Hi Bob, So sorry to hear that you are having problems again. You are in my thoughts! Take care and keep us posted. Terry
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Post# 7678-10/27/2001-22:13 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm bleeding again
MESSAGE: I hope it all settles down by morning. Good luck and take care.
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Post# 7679-10/27/2001-23:12 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Attached Link
MESSAGE: Peter, thanks for the great pics of my babies. Tom
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Post# 7680-10/27/2001-23:23 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: A New Face For Our Site (A new face that's a shayne punim--thank you Robert!)
MESSAGE: Robert, I second that emotion. TT
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Post# 7681-10/27/2001-23:27 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: 55 KM restore in progress
MESSAGE: Peter, What's this, you are having a pulsamatic in your lap? Is this like a lap dance?
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Post# 7682-10/28/2001-03:27 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: A New Face For Our Site (Being obsessive)
MESSAGE: Since jetcone brought out the ABC dasher was going in the wrong direction, I think, now that I've used this machine, we have timer dial set for heavy soil wash & an overflow rinse at the same time. LOL. I know it's the photo of the add plus your animation, but I just had to give you a hard time about it. It's 2:30 a.m. here and I can't sleep. So, I'm doing laundry, trying to catch up on the mounds that have accumulated. Still wish I could be doing all this in that WCI58. Life would be so much simpler and freer of dog hair LOL.
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Post# 7683-10/28/2001-08:33 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: Surf tablets coupon
MESSAGE: In the coupon section of today's paper, I found a coupon good for $1.50 off a box of the Surf tablets. Now to find them on sale someplace and really clean up, you should pardon the expression. Played right, this is almost like stealing groceries.
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Post# 7684-10/28/2001-08:43 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A New Face For Our Site (Being obsessive)
MESSAGE: Boy it's a tough crowd here. I actually already noticed that. Since you're doing laundry Bob, I'm going you must be feeling better, YAY.
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Post# 7685-10/28/2001-08:45 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf tablets coupon
MESSAGE: Personally I don't like Surf tablets myself. They clean just fine, but I'm not fond of its strong, modern detergent scent. Jetcone bought a huge box when here was here in August for the convention. It's my ememrgency detergent now.
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Post# 7686-10/28/2001-08:51 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf tablets coupon
MESSAGE: I bought a box of Purex tablets a while back and tried it once. Now it's my emergency detergent. Never did care much for the Purex scent, guess I still don't. The funny part is that with all the detergent I keep buying, vintage and new, I'll probably never have "a detergent emergency!"
BTW - Found another box of Ivory Snow at a sale yesterday - but that's all.
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Post# 7687-10/28/2001-08:58 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: A New Face For Our Site (Being obsessive)
MESSAGE: Doesn't laundry make everyone feel better. I'm still at it, a total of 8 loads since early dark thirty this a.m. plus 3 loads of sheets I'd done yeserday. Just about everything is clean in the house. Have 2 more loads to do on Tues.
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Post# 7688-10/28/2001-09:20 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf tablets coupon
MESSAGE: Yes, TT, but the key is finding them. Here in southern CT, they are practically nonexistent. Occasionally, the KMart 25 miles away has a stray box, but that's about it. Even Wal Mart (there are two within 40 miles of me) have yet to carry them...... The one time I found a box in KMart, they were offered at an introductory price of $4.50 for the 24 load size. I have repeatedly asked the grocery managers of my two supermarkets (Stop&Shop and Shaw's) to order them, but they both tell me the stuff is not available from their wholesalers.......
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Post# 7689-10/28/2001-09:23 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf tablets coupon
MESSAGE: Robert - which Surf tablets did you try? Was it the original flavor? I was only able to get the one box of "Spring Burst"(purple fragrance) in the state. I have noticed that the Spring Burst flavor leaves almost no discernable scent behind and I have a pretty sensitive nose. Of course, I rinse twice (first rinse with Calgon) and line dry most things, so that may explain it..................
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Post# 7690-10/28/2001-09:25 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf tablets coupon
MESSAGE: I may have to move to the greater Minneapolis/Omaha metropolitan area if I ever expect to find any boxes of vintage anything. As someone pointed out, the high humidity here on the East coast probably explains why there are never boxes of vintage detergent at any tag or estate sales!
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Post# 7691-10/28/2001-09:32 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: A New Face For Our Site (doing a load also)
MESSAGE: Yep, Whirly's shakin'. I was at Home Depot looking at the plywood and figuring out what I need to fix the floor so I can install a Frigmore.
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Post# 7692-10/28/2001-10:30 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf tablets coupon (Surf availability)
MESSAGE: Anthony, we got'em here, but not sure if both scents are stocked. TT
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Post# 7693-10/28/2001-10:40 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf tablets coupon
MESSAGE: Anthony they are the Original Scent. They really don't leave too much of a scent in the clothes after they come out of the dryer, especially when I use Downy, its just a strong scent during the wash cycle. You know we're washer focused if the scent of a detergent even matters just for the 30 minute wash cycle.
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Post# 7694-10/28/2001-10:50 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: We'll its time this weeks installment of our infamous cyber-show. We saw some cool things again yesterday, and I found a great lighted clock...
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/estatesale5/lst?&.dir=/Estate+Sale+Saturday+October+28+2001&.src=ph&.begin=9999&.view=t&.order=&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/estatesale5/lst%3f%26.dir=/Estate%2bSale%2bSaturday%2bOctober%2b28%2b2001%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 7695-10/28/2001-11:32 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: A New Face For Our Site (doing a load also)
MESSAGE: Hi Jason
Here's my recommendation for installing a Frigmore front loader:
Lay down a sheet of "wonderboard" (sort of a "concrete plywood") on your floor and then place cement blocks on top of that. Install the machine on top of the blocks and trim with facia board or peel & stick flooring if desired for a finished appearance. This not only provides a very solid surface for your machine, but will raise it about 8 inches making loading and unloading a breeze. I installed my dryer at this height too and put a counter over them. (see my link)
Mine are installed in a second story laundry room, so I was a bit concerned about vibration. My Frigmore spins almost silently like a top with only a very small bit of vibration (at 1000 rpm's)that can be felt in the office next to the laundry room. I had a Maytag top loader in a second story laundry in a condo years back and that would wake the occupants three doors down....ha!
I got this installation advice in this club and it worked great for me.
Rich
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Post# 7696-10/28/2001-11:35 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: A New Face For Our Site ((whoops...forgot the link))
MESSAGE: whoops...pulled a Gansky (he he)...forgot to post the link
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/golittlesport/vwp?.dir=/Continuing+Vintage+Ads&.src=ph&.dnm=my+laundry+room.JPG&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/golittlesport/lst%3f%26.dir=/Continuing%2bVintage%2bAds%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 7697-10/28/2001-11:48 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday (It must be magic!!)
MESSAGE: Good for you Robert, isn't it funny how these things happen??
Hope you are having a great Sunday. Beautiful fall day here. Terry
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Post# 7698-10/28/2001-12:06 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT: RE: A New Face For Our Site (Being obsessive)
MESSAGE: "Mounds of accumulated laundry"???
I'm... jealous!!!
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Post# 7699-10/28/2001-12:10 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT: RE: A New Face For Our Site (doing a load also)
MESSAGE: Jason,
I don't know if Home Depot stocks them, but as I recall there are devices called building jacks which, along with heavy reinforcment under the floor beams as well as above them, might be the answer for the Frigmore's antics. Remember, a TL shakes from side to side, like a hula girl. A front loader with shake from side to side and up and down, like Chris Farley doing his motivational speaker routine. ;-).
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Post# 7700-10/28/2001-12:16 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT: Best way to locate estate sales?
MESSAGE: What's the best way to locate estate sales? Now that I have a full-size long bed pickup, which actually runs, I have the ability to do a lot of damage to my storage space, or what remains of it. So I'm just about ready to start checking out estate sales and gathering appliance collectibles and paraphenalia.
What I'm wondering, though, is, what's the best way to locate said estate sales? I live in the East Bay side of San Francisco Bay. The weather is warm and dry here for about 8 months of each year, so vintage detergents are certainly a possibility (I already scored a vintage box of Boraxo at a local hazard waste depot). I suppose the Sunday paper classifieds is one way, are there other ways to learn of these sales? Are there any pointers about estate sale tactics and ettiquette? Arrive early and bid low? ;-)
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Post# 7701-10/28/2001-12:27 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: I've thrown away record albums (except the Boxcar Willie - that will make a nice gift) and many magazines and books when I got home, just to smuggle out some washer/dryer books.
Great pics and a fun day! Mother used to have the GE hair dryer like Neal found, did he get some rollers to go with it?
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Post# 7702-10/28/2001-12:34 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Best way to locate estate sales?
MESSAGE: I usually check the Friday or Saturday paper for sales, ours are listed under home furnishings, but there may be a section specifically for Auctions and Tag Sales in your paper. Sometimes I will scan the Garage Sale section for "whole house" or "entire contents" type ads, but it's rare around here. Lately I've found a couple of sales that weren't in our main daily paper, but in those free classified ad papers you find at the grocery store and elsewhere.
Don't forget to visit some of the thrift stores, recyclers and mom & pop appliance shops too, they are often a good source of used machines. It's been fun hunting down where the haul-away appliances go, who buys them, who krushes them, etc. I still have yet to get into the Nebraska Furniture Mart system - that would be the pot-o-gold! Gook Luck!
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Post# 7703-10/28/2001-12:37 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm bleeding again
MESSAGE: Hope you are doing better today - don't over exert yourself with the laundry! Skyler's birthday party/dinner is tonight at the house and my father (sperm-donor) is coming in the for the night, so I'll have mounds of sheets & laundry this week to wade through - have fun with yours!
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Post# 7704-10/28/2001-13:30 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Yeah, Greg, there are just some things I have learned not to even ask about; just slip into hiding and get them outta there.
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Post# 7705-10/28/2001-13:40 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Best way to locate estate sales?
MESSAGE: Ricardo, We have sections in the classified near the household goods for garage & yard sales and a separate colum heading for estate sales. I like estate sales better because of the type of stuff they are trying to move; not children's clothes and toys like so many garage and yard sales AND they are generaly motivated to empty the place. Generally, if they start Friday, by Sunday the stuff that's left is half price, otherwise, the price marked is what you pay. A tremendous amount of work goes into getting one of these sales ready so it's best not to try to haggle, unless there is not a price on an item, or there is some important part missing. I have found things like that and when I ask about the missing pieces, sometimes the price plummets and other times you're told it's as is. Best of luck. Tom
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Post# 7706-10/28/2001-15:38 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Robert, TERRIFIC finds this week. The Westy oven, sigh, classic. The Maytag dishwasher, I'd forgotten about that style. I called it the GE-wannabe. It was reminiscent of the style of certain low-end GE DWs from 1964 or 1965, metallic upper edge of panel with dial lower in the midst of the colored panel. Thanks for the upclose of the Myg control panel. Now I know what one of those washer's buttons are all for. Too bad you couldn't take that WP dryer hoome to match your washer.
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Post# 7707-10/28/2001-15:44 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: A New Face For Our Site (Being obsessive)
MESSAGE: Yes, Rich, between yesterday & today, I did 11 loads. Have two more to do on Tues. or Wed.
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Post# 7708-10/28/2001-15:49 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm bleeding again (back to "
normal"
)
MESSAGE: Things have returned to normal, whatever that means for my digestive tract. But, I'm having to start from ground zero again, liquid diet for the forseeable future for an undetermined length. But it will hopefully mean no more scary episodes like yesterday afternoon. I was begging Paul NOT to send me back to the hospital.
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Post# 7709-10/28/2001-16:19 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Estate Sale)
MESSAGE: Robert - what great finds - when I went to visit John & Tom in May - we went to a house that had that same exact Westy wall oven. And that is some oven!!!! Whow
Peter
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Post# 7710-10/28/2001-17:19 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf tablets coupon (Surf availability)
MESSAGE: Another failed attempt today at KMart. The manager allegedly ordered them and should have had them in yesterday. But today - - nothing!!!
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Post# 7711-10/28/2001-17:20 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf tablets coupon
MESSAGE: Well, Robert, you have a point there!!!!!
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Post# 7712-10/28/2001-17:45 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm bleeding again (back to )
MESSAGE: Well, I hope the diet will do the trick and I'm sure eventually things will get better just about the same time you figure you just can't take any more. At least that's the way some health problems seem to go for me.
Let's see, does a liquid diet include mai-tai's and kamikaze's?
;-)
(probably not, because alcohol can interfere with clotting, but being a professional agitator I just had to ask)
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Post# 7713-10/28/2001-18:07 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday (WH wall oven)
MESSAGE: And we have the Westinghouse wall oven in the collection along with an extra door in pink.
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Post# 7714-10/28/2001-18:28 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Best way to locate estate sales?
MESSAGE: Hi Rich, what I do is I always pick up both the Minneapolis Star-Tribune and the St. Paul Pioneer Press newspapers on Friday. They both has a special section in the classified ads section called "estate sales", this is different from the "garage sale" section which you want to avoid. While the sales go on every day of the week, the weekends have many more sales. On Friday they list all the sales for Fri, Sat and Sunday. Since there are commonly are twenty or more sales listed in the metropolian area, I only select the sales that are in older neighboorhoods and that are not appartments or townhomes.
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Post# 7715-10/28/2001-18:30 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Yeah that Whirlpool dryer was cute, but it was very rough and its not really a top priority of mine.
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Post# 7716-10/28/2001-18:58 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Dryer Switch?)
MESSAGE: What's that switch on front of the Whirlpool dryer?
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Post# 7717-10/28/2001-19:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Dryer Switch?)
MESSAGE: That was the pilot light switch Glenn.
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Post# 7718-10/28/2001-20:37 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf tablets coupon (Surf availability)
MESSAGE: Anthony, you may not be able to get Surf tables yet, but you can surf the web and get your laundry clean with the WCI58 web somersault, plusating on our home page LOL
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Post# 7719-10/28/2001-20:39 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm bleeding again (back to )
MESSAGE: Rich, I appreciate you pulsating on the thought, but unfortunately not with some of the other drugs I have to take. However, .... if I did consume, I'd be out for days. Now that's a thought too. Too bad they wouldn't let me do that in the hospital. But NOOOOO they wanted me to walk 4 times a day. Imagine that!!!! I find it better to pulsate than agitate LOL
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Post# 7720-10/28/2001-21:44 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf tablets coupon (Uni's water bill)
MESSAGE: Robert's going to have an insanely huge water bill with the Frigidaire overflowing for days now. I think all the suds are gone now. Does it ever spin?
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Post# 7721-10/28/2001-22:56 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf tablets coupon (Uni's water bill)
MESSAGE: No silly its cyber water, and of course we all know cyber water is free. Eventually it will spin, baby steps you know.
By the way everybody, I went to Restoration Hardware today and picked up three more boxes of that reproduction vintage Oxydol. It is by far the best smelling laundry detergent I've smelled in a long time. Its only $2.95 a box, of course it's not the original phosphate laden formula, but it sure does smell like vintage detergent.
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Post# 7722-10/28/2001-01:38 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm bleeding again (back to )
MESSAGE: Bob,
It's nice to see you can reciprocate the sentiment.
Rich
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Post# 7723-10/29/2001-05:16 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf tablets coupon (Uni's water bill)
MESSAGE: Wow, Robert - my local Restoration Hardware is seling the same thing for $5.95 per box!
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Post# 7724-10/29/2001-06:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf tablets coupon (Uni's water bill)
MESSAGE: They used to be $5.95, but these had a price of $2.95. It probably means they couldn't sell it at that higher price.
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Post# 7725-10/29/2001-10:05 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf tablets coupon ($2.95 Oxydol in ATL)
MESSAGE: It's $2.95 at Restoration Hardware here in ATL. They have a ton of it on the shelves.
-ph
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Post# 7726-10/29/2001-10:08 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm bleeding again (back to )
MESSAGE: You'll slide right on thru to better health now, Bob! Glad things are back to the normal or regular cycle for you.
-ph
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Post# 7727-10/29/2001-10:16 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Attached Link (Great Pics, Peter!)
MESSAGE: Looks like you had a wonderful time!
-ph
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Post# 7728-10/29/2001-10:23 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Carport clean out
MESSAGE: With Jason up from Tampa, we went thru the Kenmores in my car port. The '55 was actually in the best shape of the bunch. The '63 and '72 were shot -- way too much rust thru in the base plate and outer tubs. Could strain marcaroni with those machines! The '63 and '72 dryers showed signs of melting and near fires. We striped the machines of control panels and some parts, so that leaves me with only the '55 KM washer and the '62 KM dryer.
Jason also helped me get the white cabinet on the WCI. There is signs of rust around the drain of the tub, but otherwise it looks good. We replaced the BON subtop with a filter pan top. Tested the coppertone 1-18 and it locks up in agitate. Jason is taking the mid-60's Rollermatic home for parts, but we cut the Jet Cone out of it, sinse I want to try it in the 1-18.
Now to take the dead machines one at a time in my RAV4 to the krusher!
-ph
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Post# 7729-10/29/2001-10:52 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Carport clean out
MESSAGE: Sounds like you guys had a nice weekend. It must be nice to have some more space open now for more machines YAY! How far along did you guys get on the '55 Kenmore washer?
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Post# 7730-10/29/2001-11:09 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Carport clean out ('55 KM update)
MESSAGE: It agitated and it spun, but noisily. We took the motor from the '72 for use in the '55. The water level dome ripped, so that needs replaing. The bolts holding the outer tub to the base plate were covered in bond-o, an there was a rust hole about the diameter of a pencil near by. The crooked subtop was just due to a missing clip. So we need a new/better outer tub next. Then either rebuild the tranny or replace it. New wigwag is needed, as action doesn't stop when the lid is lifted, although you can hear the poor dear try to disengage.
-ph
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/vwp?.dir=/1953+Kenmore+washer&.src=ph&.dnm=KM+outer+tub.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/lst%3f%26.dir=/1953%2bKenmore%2bwasher%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 7731-10/29/2001-12:53 ||| Lenny (Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT: Liquid Dreft Encounter!
MESSAGE: Well after that 'sudsing' discussion about the Dreft detergent last week, I had to go out and buy some. First of all the smell is SO different than I remember it had YEARS back. It had a very 'unforgetable' distinctive scent. Now it has a definite baby-powder scent (quite strong I might add). I bought the liquid which of course was'nt available years ago but I'm sure the powder has the same scent. The liquid is very viscous and consentrated (Much more so than say, liquid Cheer or Tide). And, indeed, it is EXTREMELY sudsing! A 3/4 full cap produced a THICK blanket of rich suds in my Atlantis with a full load of towels. The scent when you add it to the filling machine as it mixes with the water was very intense, almost overwhelming of baby powder. The end result was a beautiful clean, sweet smelling wash with just a delicate baby powder scent! I throughly enjoyed the Dreft experience. Since it cleaned so well, I might use it in my other clothes, at least till I use it up. If I get hooked on it, I'll wash out my Atlantis's detergent dispenser and use Liquid Dreft to refill it. Try it and let me hear some other opinions on this unique product!
Lenny
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Post# 7732-10/29/2001-19:20 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Liquid Dreft Encounter!
MESSAGE: Lenny, my Mom has extremely sensitive skin and has been using Liquid Dreft for quite some time. It's the only thing that she canw wash her clothes in that doesn't bather her. So, all their laundry is done with it. Even the "free & clear" detergents are too strong for her. (Go figure) but once she gets something in her mind, there's no budging. She believe baby detergent is the gentlest.
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Post# 7733-10/29/2001-21:32 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Liquid Dreft Encounter! (getting it)
MESSAGE: Bob,
Perhaps you should leave some Trix advertisements laying around the house the next time your Mom visits. You know, the ones that say, "Silly rabbit, Trix are for kids.". Maybe she'll get the dreft.
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Post# 7734-10/29/2001-22:35 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Liquid Dreft Encounter! (getting it)
MESSAGE: Yes Rich, I can see you mind is a-Dreft and losing focus. Come back to reality. Your mind is playing Trix on you again. You've been hitting the suds too much again I'm afraid. That silly rabbit has been hopping by your fridge too much and fermenting thos hoppings LOL. I better quit before anyone else can't stand to beer to read this.
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Post# 7735-10/29/2001-22:43 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes
MESSAGE: I usually do Neal's and my wash on Monday nights. We'll since its my usual washday tonight I decided just for fun to see how fast I could do a weeks worth of laundry. Tonight I had nine loads of wash and timed the process. I used only the Unimatics for speed washing (and three out of the four of them going at once). For drying I used the Whirlpool Combo, Bendix Gas, and Slant Front D-8 Westy dryers. I only used Vintage Oxydol, which is very high sudsing and makes for great smelling clothes.
Total time for 9 loads, 2 hours 41 minutes!
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Post# 7736-10/29/2001-23:08 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes
MESSAGE: The only "blue" part of it would be the folding - I can wash on Monday and not get everything folded and put away until Friday!
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Post# 7737-10/29/2001-23:19 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: STPP -- How much??
MESSAGE: I made a couple more calls today and found a supplier for the STPP here, ordered 50 lbs. (minumum) and will pick up tomorrow. I could have it delivered, but I would have had to order 357 pounds, a bit more than I need.
How much of this do I add with regular detergent for a standard size machine? Do I use the same amount of detergent? Am I correct in thinking I don't need the Calgon too?
Thanks for the answers, I didn't wash this weekend and intended to tonight, but am waiting for the STPP tomorrow night.
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Post# 7738-10/29/2001-23:29 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Liquid Dreft Encounter!
MESSAGE: I got a sample in the mail when Skyler and I took care of a 4 month old baby boy 2 years ago. My sister found out I wasn't using Dreft and sent off for a sample for me (and some nursing pads, just for fun.) I used the sample, I think it was liquid, and was impressed with the cleaning, but I thought it was way too sudsy in my Maytag Dependable Care machine, thus requiring an extra rinse. I prefer litte or no scent left in the clothes after washing and only use about half the recommended softener, if I use it at all.
The nursing pads made great coasters!
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Post# 7739-10/29/2001-23:48 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Garage Ornament: KDS-18
MESSAGE: A week ago last Thursday I stopped in to my Launderall dealer looking for a late model Maytag set for a friend who is buying her first house. I didn't find the Maytags, but did spot a KDS-18 back in a corner. I went back up Friday to fetch it. It's in nice shape, but missing the bottom trim and kick panels. We scoured the joint and found none from that series that would work, but I took the machine anyway. I did manage to grab a near-new lower wash arm, silverware and small items baskets and another face/control panel. My buddy Alvin said he would save me the next 18 series that came in for me to get whatever parts I needed, and the bottom panel.
That 1970 Kenmore 900 set was still there - it's so pretty with all the lights and buttons.
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Post# 7740-10/29/2001-00:34 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT: RE: STPP -- How much??
MESSAGE: Gansky,
Congrats on the 50 lb STPP score! I typically use a mix of 33% STPP and 67% HE detergent, by weight. It will completely replace the need for Calgon. You may find you need even less detergent because of the water softening capability of STPP. Naturally, for heavily soiled loads, more STPP will help break the soil away from the fabric, and keep it suspended so it can be washed away. If you have very hard water (> 12 ppm) then of course STPP will help there as well. If you have a lot of laundry to do, you might want to try the 33% STPP mix on one load of whites, and the straight detergent (same total amount by weight) on a similar type and size of load. I think you'll find the STPP gets whites whiter than a non-phosphate detergent alone.
When you said "I didn't wash this weekend", I assume you mean the laundry... ;-)
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Post# 7741-10/30/2001-06:55 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (YAY for Blue Monday)
MESSAGE: Oh I hang up and fold everything right as they come out of the dryers, so its all done for the week. I was thinking the only part that would be Blue about Blue monday was "turquoise" - YAY for Blue Monday.
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Post# 7742-10/30/2001-07:02 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Garage Ornament: KDS-18 (YAY for the 18)
MESSAGE: Greg, You will also want to look for the top rack assembly from a 19 or newer to get the larger upper wash arm. Congratulations on finding the 18. In my opinion, it was the best dishwasher KA made (good capacity & loading flexibility, good rinsing, still used the important overhead constant rinse, none of that stupid water heating), especially when modified with the larger upper wash arm. Mine are still washing just fine. The models following it would use the same lower panel and toe plate. Let us know if we need to find those for you. What color is it? TT
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Post# 7743-10/30/2001-07:08 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (YAY for Blue Monday)
MESSAGE: And three cheers for permanent press so that there is no "sad Tuesday" for ironing.
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Post# 7744-10/30/2001-07:10 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: STPP -- How much??
MESSAGE: HA! Not to worry, I did wash--just no clothes!
Thanks for the tips, I should try some tests to see what the visible results are. I'm anxious to try the STPP, I called to inquire about water softeners yesterday, mostly to get a water PPM figure. They told me that Omaha takes it water from two rivers, the Missouri and the Platte, depending on where you live in the city. My water comes from the "Mighty Muddy MO" and is a little softer than that coming from the Platte. I was told our water was 11-12 PPM. I was astounded at the prices of softeners, but had never priced them so had no reference point either. My dishwasher detergent contains phosphates, and I've been impressed with the results, so hopefully the STPP will help with the laundry.
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Post# 7745-10/30/2001-07:11 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (YAY for Blue Monday)
MESSAGE: At first glance I just saw the "I hang up...." I thought you were hanging them on the clothesline!!
Is there any blue in Harvest Gold?
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Post# 7746-10/30/2001-07:18 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Garage Ornament: KDS-18 (YAY for the 18)
MESSAGE: I was glad to find that model too, after reading the info that Leslie brought for us on KA at the convention and my manuals obtained last month in Missouri, I was sold on the 18 too. I didn't realize the middle wash arm was larger on the 19 and later, will have to look for that next time I go. My front panel is black, I may have you guys keep an eye open for the bottom panels for me during your midnight salvage trips as I've not had great luck with my guys remembering what I'm looking for. There are a couple of other parts that were scrounged from my machine, but I'm sure I can still obtain those.
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Post# 7747-10/30/2001-07:21 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (YAY for Blue Monday)
MESSAGE: Ironing?? Bite your tounge!
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Post# 7748-10/30/2001-07:22 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes
MESSAGE: And as JasonL would most likely say, Frigidaire rock, rules, & pulsates. See, if I had a solid-tub Frigidaire, what type of speed damage I could do with my marathon laundry with just one machine. Imagine a load every 27 minutes (or so) and drying just about as fast with 1100 or 1010 rpm spins. Talk about power washing. GO UNIMATICS!!!! & UNI!
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Post# 7749-10/30/2001-07:32 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Blue monday)
MESSAGE: The only thing "blue" about blue monday is when the washing is finished. That's the depressing part is when the dryer's running your last batch of clothes and no more washing machine until next week :-(
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Post# 7750-10/30/2001-07:32 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (YAY for Blue Monday)
MESSAGE: Ironing? What's tht. I don't even own an ironing board or iron. I treet my 100% cotton shirts like Peppermint Press and they come out look quite good, almost great. Just smooth them real well outta the dryer. But thankfully, I only have about 4 of those. The rest are PP or polo type shirts. I've manage to avoid this 100% cotton phase like the plague. (All except for wrinkle free dockers). I've had a 6 wrinkle-free 100% cotton shirts which came out okay, but over time, the collars staying power deteriorated.
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Post# 7751-10/30/2001-07:35 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (hot water supply)
MESSAGE: Uni, how well did your water heater keep up with the demand--considering the 47 & the 55 units have warm rinses? Did you use warm rinse or cold rinse on the 57 & 58?
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Post# 7752-10/30/2001-07:37 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Perm press question)
MESSAGE: OK, here's another newbie for you experts.
Does using the perm press cycle REALLY make a difference with wrinkles? Like does that extra "cool down" thing help? I was always taught to just use the normal cycle with warm water, then pull the clothes out of the dryer still damp and hang them up. I have washed with perm press and normal on my WP and can't really notice any reduce in wrinkles.
I hate wrinkles. Thank God for Downy Wrinkle Reducer.
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Post# 7753-10/30/2001-07:37 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (hang/fold)
MESSAGE: The same with me and my 8 loads I did Sun. morning at dark thirty when i couldn't sleep. I also managed to fold the 3 loads of sheets from the day before that morning too. About the only thing I have a tendency not to fold is the whites--I've been known to pad to the dryer each morning for a new set of undies for a month at times LOL (the epitome of laziness).
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Post# 7754-10/30/2001-07:41 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Go Frigmore!)
MESSAGE: I think, if my trailer can handle it. Frigidaire does rock, rule and pulsate. 650 rpm spin? What? Might as well throw a cup of water in the dryer.
My Whirlpool has a very tall but skinny basket. So even if it spin at 650 rpm it doesn't extract worth a darn.
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Post# 7755-10/30/2001-07:42 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Perm press question)
MESSAGE: Jason, Turbo cured me of the PP cycle habit. For PP, I use the gentle cycle with warm wash & cold rinse. I let it go through the cycle completely and then switch to normal spin for 2 minutes to aid in speed of drying. I dry completely in the dryer with the PP cycle selected and the sensor cycle set for the less dry (as on your GE dryer) and use the extended tumble to assure they are completely cooled down before I remove anything. The only bad thing on your GE dryer, if it was like mine, the PP button is high heat. Maybe yours is newer than I think. Sometime after the 1977 model year, the PP button became a medium heat, but I doubt that is the case on your dryer. But, I personally found that with PP, I used the PP/Poly Knits button and the Poly/Knits cycle for these type of wrinkle-free clothes. The only time I used the regular/PP sensor cycle was for sheets, towels, and undies.
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Post# 7756-10/30/2001-07:45 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Go you)
MESSAGE: Yes, the single life. Leaving towels in the dryer and picking stuff out of the dryer instead of folding them and putting them where they belong.
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Post# 7757-10/30/2001-07:47 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Perm press question)
MESSAGE: My Maytag has a medium heat button I use a lot. The only time I simulate a PP "cool-down" phase is when I wash white dress shirts in hot water. Then I do a "cool-down" manuall before they do the first spin.
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Post# 7758-10/30/2001-07:48 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (PP in the dryer)
MESSAGE: OK, you sickos, that's NOT what I meant!
My PP button is high heat and my sensor is I think broke. I use the timed cycle and start taking out clothes when they start to dry. Maybe I need a new dryer with a working sensor. That probably would really help. Any suggestions?
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Post# 7759-10/30/2001-07:58 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: STPP -- How much??
MESSAGE: Wow that some hard water Greg, the city softens our water to 7PPM, we get our water from a combination of the northern lakes and the Mississippi River.
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Post# 7760-10/30/2001-07:58 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Another funny washer story
MESSAGE: In the 70s when I was a kid, my aunt replaced her Lady K with a 18lb belt-drive Whirly. So anyway, I used to sit on the washer and dryer (right next to each other) and watch the wash. Her WP had a softener dispenser on top of the agitator and I used to put my hand on it as it went back and forth. Anyway, my cousin was there and I went "Dana, watch this" and I stuck my barefoot in the washer. He said "oooo.. I'm telling mom. Look you got evidence on the machine, all over the floor". "What? I didn't do nothin?" Being the absolute tattle-tale that he was went and ratted me out. So my aunt told me to close the washer and get out of the laundry room. "But I can't watch the agitator?" "NO SIR! CLOSE THE MACHINE AND GET OUTTA THERE! YOU DON'T STICK YOUR FEET IN THE WATER"... She was mad. I bet my grandma wouldn't have noticed a thing moohahaha.
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Post# 7761-10/30/2001-08:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (hot water supply)
MESSAGE: It kept up just fine Bob, because the water valve on the '47 is a bit off and (thankfully) it produces very cool warm water. Only 3 of the nine loads were hot water wash loads anyway. Yes I use a cold rinse (WI-57) or a cool rinse (WCI-58), except for the white load which gets a warm rinse
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Post# 7762-10/30/2001-08:05 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Perm press question)
MESSAGE: Nope, I have found over time that it doesn't matter whether I spin things our in the Unimatic at 1140rpm or whether I use or at 525rpm in a Belt-Drive Lady Kenmore, they come out the same. What really matters is how full is the dryer load. A over-loaded dryer is what causes wrinkles, a dryer that is loaded to its rated capacity will dry anything nearly wrinkle free no matter how fast it was spun. Having a cold or cool rinse makes a SLIGHT difference too.
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Post# 7763-10/30/2001-08:17 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: STPP -- How much??
MESSAGE: I would imagine the water softener sales people would exaggerate the numbers to suit their pitch, but even if it's a few PPM's off, it's still hard water. I've never been able to get the suds from that 3-ring agitator like you have. Even with Calgon and Tide!
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Post# 7764-10/30/2001-09:15 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT: RE: STPP -- How much??
MESSAGE: Well, I would say you have hard water there. STPP should help.
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Post# 7765-10/30/2001-09:20 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Perm press question)
MESSAGE: Uni,
Have you put a tachometer on your unimatic(s) to check the actual spin speed?
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Post# 7766-10/30/2001-09:25 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Perm press question)
MESSAGE: No Rich, I haven't, but since the mechanism is a direct drive unit, connected to a 1140rpm motor, one would be safe to say that it would be impossible to spin any faster or slower than 1140, without burning out the motor.
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Post# 7767-10/30/2001-09:39 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (true 1140 spin)
MESSAGE: How quickly we forget! John's brother brought the strobe tach to convention and we clocked the Unimatic at 1140 rpm exactly! Robert was running at about that speed that weekend too!
-ph
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Post# 7768-10/30/2001-09:45 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (waste-o-water)
MESSAGE: I used the PP cycle on my Maytag once. I thought the cooldown routine was extremely ineffective and wasteful. Spin-fill-spin-fill-soak-spin. No agitation to circulate the water. At the beginning of the deep rinse, clothes were still rather warm and soapy. On the 1-18, cooldown is much more effective with agitation, much like the BD Kenmores and WP's, but still wastes a ton of water. Just use a cold rinse and a slower spin and it might help, but I'm with Robert -- it's more about the dryer. The best dryers for reducing wrinkles are laundromat 30# dryers. A touch of liquid softener in the rinse is also very helpful, especially with things that are hung right out of the dryer.
-ph
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Post# 7769-10/30/2001-09:46 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Perm press question)
MESSAGE: I didn't think the PP cycle in the wash made much difference if you put the clothes in the dryer as the dryer heat would remove any wrinkles. OTH when hanging clothes to dry it might help.
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Post# 7770-10/30/2001-09:47 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: STPP -- How much?? (forever and ever and ever...)
MESSAGE: Gregster,
Have you had a chance to get a little bag of Ariel, Roma, or Viva powder from your local Mexican market? You should try it, but only after you've used up you 50# of STP! That's going to last you a loooooooooong time...
-ph
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Post# 7771-10/30/2001-09:48 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (waste-o-water)
MESSAGE: Downy Fabric Enhancer seems to help with wrinkles - and if all else fails there's Downy Wrinkle Releaser.
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Post# 7772-10/30/2001-09:52 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (blue over you)
MESSAGE: The only thing blue about Monday is that it is not the busiest weekday at my laundromat. Thursday is the busiest weekday. People are too tired on Mondays to do wash, and they don't want to wash over the weekend, so Thursday is a good day. Sunday is by far the busiest laundromat day.
The only thing blue about Monday is LaFrance or Mrs. Stewart's.
The only thing blue about Monday is when you can't find anything to wash. Or you'd rather be washing than at work!
-ph
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Post# 7773-10/30/2001-09:53 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (YAY for Blue Monday)
MESSAGE: Greg, I learned years ago that even 100% cotton Oxford cloth shirts don't necessarily need to be ironed if dried right. I would put them in the Filtrator and get them hot and steamy and relaxed then take them out, pull the wrinkles out and put them on hangers to dry and they dried wrinkle free. Good old Frigidaire Filtrator Dryers! YAY!
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Post# 7774-10/30/2001-09:55 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (machine time)
MESSAGE: Robert,
How long did it take without folding? How many "shift" did you do (machines used/started at one time)? Without folding, doing 2 shifts, I think it would have taken you 1:45.
-ph
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Post# 7775-10/30/2001-09:57 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Perm press question)
MESSAGE: Jason, I don't know what you are treating with the hanging up damp, but perma press has to reach a certain temp for the no-wrinkle-memory of the fabric to be activated. If you are pulling perma press while damp, you are not getting the best results. If you are pulling 100% cotton while damp, that's a good way to avoid ironing. TT
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Post# 7776-10/30/2001-10:34 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (true 1140 spin)
MESSAGE: Oh that's right Peter, thanks I did forget that. The whole convention weekend was a 1140rpm blurrr for me!
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Post# 7777-10/30/2001-10:40 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (machine time)
MESSAGE: We'll I'm not sure exactly what you mean Peter. But I do try to stagger the 3 machines because of the Time Fill. The '47 has a much quicker fill at 2.5 minutes than the '55, '57 or '58. The 50's Unimatics use a greater water restricter so their fill is four minutes long and I can run them at once without effecting the water level in the tub. So I usually start the '47 first and get it pulsating before starting the others. As for folding that would probably have sheered off at least 45 minutes.
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Post# 7778-10/30/2001-10:41 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Perm press question)
MESSAGE: I agree Tom, the best way to really remove the wrinkles is dry things bone dry, but being careful not to overdry them at the same time.
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Post# 7779-10/30/2001-12:15 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Uniclones)
MESSAGE: I move that we clone Robert. Not only would we have an unlimited supply of 1140 rpm spinners, but we'd also have distributed vintage washer conventions.
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Post# 7780-10/30/2001-12:17 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Perm press question)
MESSAGE: I might use the pp cycle on the Neptune washer for very sensitive stuff. For most of my daily wear, including jeans and no-iron cotton shirts, max extract and a "regular" cycle seems to work just fine. I do use the pp cycle on the dryer though, as that definitely helps. Particularly since it not only cools down, but it fluffs the load every five minutes or so after the drying is complete, in case you forget it's in there. In fact, it seems like all the moisture sensing cycles have a cool down lap.
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Post# 7781-10/30/2001-12:21 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Dryer)
MESSAGE: So I guess I need to get a dryer with a working sensor or fix mine. Are they hard to fix/replace? On my GE, the timer doesn't move at all for those cycles. Only the timed cycle works.
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Post# 7782-10/30/2001-12:45 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Dryer)
MESSAGE: Why not just use your time cycle? Does it have the 10 minute "fluff" at the end, like some older GE dryers? Originally, the wash 'n wear cycles on dryers were timed so that you would know when to come back to get the clothes, even on TOL WP built machines with auto dry for everything else. The GE dryers of my youth had the "Dewrinkle" setting at 35 minutes with the last 10 minutes as the air cooldown. WP moved from Timed W 'N W cycles to auto dry ones with the advent of Wrinkle Guard.
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Post# 7783-10/30/2001-13:37 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: Blue Monday!
MESSAGE: I do atleast 35-40 loads a week! (lol) I have my own mini laundry going here in Brooklyn. I do laundry for a few close friends who aren't wild about doing it. I like the sound of the washers going and don't mind doing it. Oneday I counted how many loads were done injust one of the machines and I did 16 loads in one machine it took all day but I just wanted to see how much the machine could take, it did great. My grandmother thought a washer should rest between loads but I never belived that. I don't think after having a few washers that I could get use to just one machine anymore. I love this club anywhere else they would think I'm crazy! (lol)
"Brooklyn Robert"
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Post# 7784-10/30/2001-15:56 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (PP cool down waste)
MESSAGE: Peter, you think your Myg was wasteful. The early Kenmores I encountered with the W'n'W cycle used to drain on high speed and fill several times, 3-5 times in the time span allowed on the timer. And no agitation in between like was done on later models of both Kenmore & WPs. I can't speak for the early WPs with the W'n'W cycle, never got to use one. The later versions with the agitation drained on low speed so they only filled twice.
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Post# 7785-10/30/2001-16:02 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Uniclones)
MESSAGE: Rich, and since I'm in to movements so much these days, I second that move to clone Robert.
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Post# 7786-10/30/2001-16:06 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Dryer)
MESSAGE: And remember Tom, Frigidaire dryers (at least the 1965 and othes of that similar era) had the W'n'W setting on the timed cycle too. Auto dry was regular, delicate, & heavy.
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Post# 7787-10/30/2001-16:08 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday!
MESSAGE: Well Robert, it's nice to know someone else in the club approaches or exceeds my own marathon laundry times. But, it's just me & my clothes. I've done 16 loads in one day acouple of times, but it's just my one machine and it does/did load after load non stop. I guess we just Bob-along with our laundry LOL.
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Post# 7788-10/30/2001-17:19 ||| trainguy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: Lady Kenmore Help
MESSAGE: Hi Gang! I finished the rebuild on the '73 Frigidaire washer and have started tearing apart this baby. I need help getting the inner tub out, please. There is a large, flat silver ring with four notches in it around the agitator shaft. It has 'FSP' and a '10' and a number like '21366' (can't see worth a darn with these new glasses) stamped onto it. There is another almost complete ring inside of this ring with a number like '9736?' on it. The center 'post' of the tub has one smaller hole near the top and two larger holes near the bottom. (Hope this makes sense!) The model number on both tags reads 110.73490110 and everything else is coming off great. The only thing missing is a decorative oval on the front which said Sears Best. The glue indented with these words is still on the washer. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Post# 7789-10/30/2001-17:39 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Lady Kenmore Help
MESSAGE: hehehe, you said Lady Kenmore in the subject, but Frigidaire in the post.
You need a spanner wrench to get that "flat silver ring" off. The wrench fits atop the ring, grabs it in one of the notches. You whack the wrench with a mallet to get it loose and unscrewed.
You can try holding a block of wood in one of the notches and whacking that, but the wrench works better.
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Post# 7790-10/30/2001-17:41 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Lady Kenmore Help
MESSAGE: Here's a picture that should help.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/kenmore525/vwp?.dir=/1957+Lady+Kenmore+Restoration+Part+1&.src=ph&.dnm=14+Removing+Spanner+Nut.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/kenmore525/lst%3f%26.dir=/1957%2bLady%2bKenmore%2bRestoration%2bPart%2b1%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 7791-10/30/2001-17:44 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (dryer)
MESSAGE: Yes, it does have a 10minute fluff cool down at the end. So I should set the timer at about 35mins to get it right?
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Post# 7792-10/30/2001-17:53 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT: RE: Lady Kenmore Help
MESSAGE: To add to the confusion, he also mentions a "Sears Best" label - sounds like a Kenmore to me.
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Post# 7793-10/30/2001-19:25 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Dryer)
MESSAGE: My DCI 60 is the same, but I was trying to let him know about the GEs so that he would not feel he was sacrificing anything by using times dry for PP drying.
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Post# 7794-10/30/2001-19:28 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (GE dewrinkle cycle at 35 minutes)
MESSAGE: That should probably do it.
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Post# 7795-10/30/2001-19:29 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (YAY for Blue Monday)
MESSAGE: I don't know TT - I kind of liked the ironing ritual growing up. But then I wasn't the one doing it..................
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Post# 7796-10/30/2001-19:33 ||| trainguy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: Lady Kenmore Help (Thanks!)
MESSAGE: I appreciate the info about the tool. I'll give this a try. I didn't want to destroy anything. I really enjoyed the whole slide show of your '57 restoration. Thanks again. Rich
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Post# 7797-10/30/2001-19:40 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (YAY for Blue Monday)
MESSAGE: Gentlemen, Gentlemen!!!! Tsk, Tsk, what's this I am hearing???? Aversions to ironing? Come now, we are strudy men and ironing completes the "circle of laundry". After all, we take great care to make sure our clothes are washed and dried just so. Ironing is just another part of the game, cupcakes. And if I do say so myself, (thanks, Mom for making me learn) I iron pretty damn well - from liquid starch, to line drying, dampening, freezing and then hitting those unsuspecting threads with a hot Rowenta pro model. Very butch!!!! Well, it might be butch without the apron....
Seriously, though, there is something very comforting about the smell of freshly ironed laundry. That said, I may do it really well, but I am not particularly fond of doing it... so anything that makes your lives easier is great!!
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Post# 7798-10/30/2001-20:06 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: STPP -- How much?? (1/4 cup at a time.......)
MESSAGE: This bag should last me for a long time, but with water similar in consistency to pebbles or sand, I'll need it!
I'm using it tonight, have done 6 loads with it and have 3 more to go tonight. I love it so far, very slippery water which I've not had before. I've been using mostly my stand-by new detergents which don't suds as much as others, except in the 1-18. I was amazed at the clear rinsing in all the loads so far - nice to see.
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Post# 7799-10/30/2001-20:10 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday!
MESSAGE: My friends tease me that I should either take in laundry for extra money or put coin boxes on the machines!
35-40 loads, wow you must like to fold!
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Post# 7800-10/30/2001-20:32 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Lady Kenmore Help
MESSAGE: Hi Rich, I was going to post a link to my pictures of the 1957 Lady Kenmore Restoration, but DaDoES beat me to it, thanks Glenn. Anyway, following the pictures you should be able to see how to remove this spanner nut and spin basket.
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Post# 7801-10/30/2001-20:35 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (YAY for Blue Monday)
MESSAGE: Sorry Anthony, but I don't iron either. That's why Frigidaire invented the Filtrator with the Wrinkles Away Cycle.
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Post# 7802-10/30/2001-20:59 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (YAY for Blue Monday)
MESSAGE: I haven't tried this process with the Duomatic, it's not quite as steamy as the Filtrator would be, although it would probably work well, but it wastes so much water! Even catching the water in the machine next to it is fine, but it continues to pump water down the drain even after the neighboring washer has filled. The low air-flow dryers like the '54 Speed Queen are nice for the heat-pull-hang method as they don't blast the load with hot air so fast.
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Post# 7803-10/30/2001-21:02 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (YAY for Blue Monday)
MESSAGE: Again with the Filtrator! Who wants to make a trip to the Sacred Burial Ground and get one with me?
Robert, do you remember telling me about pinching the hose on your Duomatic's condenser spray to use less water? What did you use to do that?
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Post# 7804-10/30/2001-21:09 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (YAY for Blue Monday)
MESSAGE: I can iron if I have to, and I don't do too bad a job, but do not much care for it. I generally skip the starch (spray can if I do use it -- liquid, dipping, freezing, NO WAY). Burst-of-steam is plenty action.
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Post# 7805-10/30/2001-21:42 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday!
MESSAGE: The folding goes fast. It's matching the all the socks, and alot of plastic bags, I don't like putting clean clothes in the bag they came in unless you can wash it. I get backed up with the dryer somtimes on bad days, but I like to hang some of them out on the clothes lines in the fresh, crisp, "Brooklyn" air, (lol), that's if there aren't any pigeons flying around (lol). Some of my friends enjoy the way the bed sheets smell from the line. I like to show them the difference sometimes! A lot of people here in the city don't have room or the rental will not allow a washer. I have a few so it's not a problem!
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Post# 7806-10/30/2001-21:52 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday!
MESSAGE: I also pay close atention to water temp. You must do a dark or cold water wash in between so you don't over work the hot water heater. I like a warm water rinses on the towels and white clothes alot of people like cold and it's best as a soap killer and great for wrinkles but I like alot of water and the belt driven Whirlpools sound great when they do the spin rinses with the warm rinse setting! Some say that the warm rinse will cut down on your drying time the clothes are already warm.
They have a telethon we should have a wash-a-thon!
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Post# 7807-10/30/2001-22:02 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (YAY for Blue Monday)
MESSAGE: Hi Anthony;
I also have a Rowenta. When I got it everyone said that it was too much to pay for an iron. I believe when you have to do the work yourself buy the best! Liquid starch; I forgot about that I think it was called Linnit or something like that a light blue liquid in a plastic bottle. I remember my grandmother putting some damp clothes in the refrigerator wrapped in a towel for ironing later. They use to have that "Argo" powdered starch here, I haven't seen it in a while. I knew someone who liked to eat it! Go figure!
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Post# 7808-10/30/2001-22:09 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (dryer)
MESSAGE: Jason, I don't know about your dryer, but on mine, when I set it for 10 minutes, it was 10 minutes of heat then it went into the cool down. Try this--Set the pointer dial on the 10 minute mark then slowly turn it toward off. You should hear and feel a click. That's the part where the cool down starts. Then move it gradually more to off until it clicks again. That should give you an idea of the "time" for heat before the cool down from the 10 minute mark. (Remember, I'm talking about my old GE dryer).
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Post# 7809-10/30/2001-22:13 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (YAY for Blue Monday)
MESSAGE: The only ironing ritual I'm doing these days is taking my iron pill twice a day LOL.
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Post# 7810-10/30/2001-22:20 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Sacred Burial Filtrator)
MESSAGE: Greg, I remember seeing a 55 Filtrator in weeds in one of Uni's pictures. I wonder if it's still there.
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Post# 7811-10/30/2001-23:04 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Its Magic)
MESSAGE: We'll just have to use some witchcraft to get you a Filtrator greg.
I used a special water hose reducing clamp to pinch the Duomatic's Hose.
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Post# 7812-10/30/2001-00:39 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Bewitching Idea!)
MESSAGE: That was fun!!
Thanks for the Halloween treat - now I'm off elsewhere on the web to find a trick! ;-)
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Post# 7813-10/30/2001-01:08 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Its Magic)
MESSAGE: Robert,
Interesting audio effect on that message. How'd you do that? It made my cat sit up and take notice ;-)
Also, speaking of pinching hoses and all, I forgot to mention that I "jetted" the filter-flo a while back. I decided that the warm wash was too warm. So I took apart the delivery valve system and noticed that the cold side was much more constricted than the hot side. I took an appropriately sized drill bit and carefully enlarged the cold side. Seemed to work ok. "Jetting" is a term that is used to describe changing the air/fuel mixture on carburettors, through a variety of methods, including boring out the orifices of the "jets" that allow fuel to enter the air stream.
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Post# 7814-10/31/2001-02:36 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (YAY for Blue Monday)
MESSAGE: LOL! They call it "Tumble Press" on my Whirlpool dryer!
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Post# 7815-10/31/2001-05:29 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (YAY for Blue Monday)
MESSAGE: Yes, Robert, but I don't HAVE a Filtrator - and it is a bit too expensive to travel to Minneapolis to do my laundry in yours....... so it looks like the clothesline wins again. Of course, I myself hate to fold, so figure that one out - I also hate to empty the dishwasher.
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Post# 7816-10/31/2001-05:36 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (YAY for Blue Monday)
MESSAGE: I didn't say I liked doing it either, but I haven't found anyone who does....... I just meant that it is a great test of complete laundering skills. And the results of the liquid, dampening, freeze method are unbelievable. The burst of steam is only the icing on the cake!!! But it is like making fresh pasta - I know how to do it, have done it, and will do it when absolutely necessary. BUT - for the most part I don't do it. Time these days is precious, and I can buy perfectly good fresh pasta at my local Italian store (well, OK it is 45 minutes away in the Bronx). So why spend the time????
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Post# 7817-10/31/2001-05:37 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday!
MESSAGE: Not a bad idea Robert - we could have a regional in our area- Brooklyn is not that far for me..............
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Post# 7818-10/31/2001-05:40 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (YAY for Blue Monday)
MESSAGE: It makes a big difference who's pushing the iron. The smell is wonderful, but then the fragrance from the Filtrator is perfume from paradise for me. Right Robert?
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Post# 7819-10/31/2001-05:46 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (YAY for Blue Monday)
MESSAGE: Robert - Linit is still available in most supermarkets. It is now white however, and I have never cared much for it. For many years, I was using a west coast Purex brand called "Vano". I discovered it while living out there for a year and was ordering it by mail - much more concentrated than Linit and the other brand sold here - Staley's Sta-Flo (I guess the sister of Sta-Puf Softener). Unfortunately, as things go - Purex was acquired by Dial, who also acquired Staley's. They kept the Sta-Flo brand and made it national, while discontinuing Vano. Funny how two supposedly identical products made by the same company could turn in such different performances. Sta-Flo is acceptable, but I do miss the Vano...
And BTW, Argo boxed starch is still available in my supermarkets. But I must say that is too much work even for me - I cannot imagine there is even a market for that here in CT. Funny - I have also heard about people eating that starch . Sad, but I think that happens in mostly poor areas - it is also dangerous.............
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Post# 7820-10/31/2001-05:48 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (YAY for Blue Monday)
MESSAGE: Of course, maybe if you dried more in the dryer than hanging on the line, you would not need to iron as much. I don't have time to do the things I WANT to do, much less iron. I know how and even have an Ironrite, but the avocado Teflon on my GE iron's soleplate does not have the first scratch and will definitely be a museum piece. I also have this really cute Westinghouse dry iron with the open handle and the big pointer and gold dial for heat settings. Sometimes I use it when I pull something out of the dryer damp and just want to give it a few passes to make it look extra special. Otherwise the pressed look is, as we day in Washington, close enough for government work.
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Post# 7821-10/31/2001-05:59 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (YAY for Blue Monday)
MESSAGE: Greg, I can get results pretty similar to the hot, hot Filtrator with my dragon fire dryers with high air flow by spinning things a short time on slow, or just until the tub drains and put them in to dry on the highest heat for maybe 10 minutes. The get good and hot to relax the cotton and the remaining dampness gives the garment weight to hang smooth after I have stretched the wrinkles out. In my old house, the extra appliances were all together in the back of the kitchen. I used to save the 3 after rinses from the KDS 14 to wash in the 58 Frigidaire; it was almost a full tub of good hot water for whites. Then the Duomatic's dryer water was a nice temp for doing colors when saved into another TL, like the Maytag or WP. What nice, clean fun with water. Who needs to go to a water park?
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Post# 7822-10/31/2001-06:02 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (YAY for Blue Monday)
MESSAGE: "Again with the Filtrator." Greg, one would think that you had been taking Yiddish lessons with that expression. Loved it! TT
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Post# 7823-10/31/2001-06:16 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday!
MESSAGE: Some people say cold water rinsing is effective, but I do not buy it. I at least use cool instead of cold. Really cold water can lock the detergent in the fibers. It is interesting to go back and give a warm rinse to a load that was first rinsed in cold water and see all the suds that appears.
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Post# 7824-10/31/2001-06:23 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (YAY for Blue Monday)
MESSAGE: Years ago, mom used to keep the top of a white enamel double boiler in the downstairs refrigerator with starch in it. When we washed Dad's shirts, we would take the collars and cuffs and dip them in that and the squeeze it out, then wrap them and refrigerate them for ironing. Then perma press came and the starch got thrown out and if Dad was on a two or three week trip, he could do his shirts himself so he did not have to pack as much either. Yay for perma press.
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Post# 7825-10/31/2001-06:31 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Happy Holler-weenie!
MESSAGE: Put on yer bed sheets and start hittin' the trailer parks for candy. Watch out fer that clown looking dude. I heard he's a weird one. He got dead bodies under his trailer.
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Post# 7826-10/31/2001-06:43 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (YAY for Blue Monday)
MESSAGE: I'm with you on folding (and the dishwasher). At one point I started taking them out of the dryer and putting them on the dinning table to fold later. After about a year I was using the table as a sort of dresser...
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Post# 7827-10/31/2001-06:59 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Its Magic)
MESSAGE: Oh I was just kicking around some Applianceville enhancement ideas, although if I give everyone the ability to add sounds to their posts, god only knows what we'll be hearing! LOL. Of course the sound of Endora poping in a Filtrator into Greg's laundry room appears to only work in Internet Explorer and not in Netscape. Thank goodness the browswer wars are over and IE has won, YAY for IE.
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Post# 7828-10/31/2001-07:00 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (YAY for Blue Monday)
MESSAGE: You are so right Tom, the Filtrator smell, especially if I've used softener fills the basement with a very light, laundry perfume scent.
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Post# 7829-10/31/2001-07:01 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: Surf tablets
MESSAGE: Took the coupon to the grocery yesterday. Surf tablets were reduced 66 cents and I had my $1.50 coupon so I bought a box. Will use the other coupon next week. They only had the jungle flavor. Then while going through the checkout, the little printer spits out a store coupon for 75 cents off my next Surf purchase. There was also a 50 cent coupon in the paper for any Surf including tablets. What I am mad about now is that the store stopped carrying Heinz worcestershire sauce. Such a proletarian place. They also have a bad habit of cluttering up the aisles with displays and restocking carts and stuff. As I came in, they had all this stuff crapping up the main approach to the produce section; tables of some kind of baked goods from their in store bakery and this round red bin so that there was not really room for a cart. I winged the cardboard bin as I went through and man was that thing unstable! Instead of moving to the side as I had envisioned, it went over backwards faster than you could watch and ejected about 100 slippery foil packets of some kind of gourmet coffee. Those things really traveled when they hit the floor. I made sure that I kicked aside the one that was jamming the front wheel of my cart. I notice that they don't ever block the approach to the deli and ready to eat area. improper shopper
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Post# 7830-10/31/2001-07:05 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy Holler-weenie!
MESSAGE: Clean sheets. Does anyone remember the 60s Mad magazine ad spoof for Tide with Lurleen Wallace giving a testimonial that Tide got George's sheets so clean you would never know he had been out riding in them the night before and how important clean white sheets were to him, and to her as his wife.
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Post# 7831-10/31/2001-07:07 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (special blue light, NOT blue light special)
MESSAGE: Yes, and don't forget the sacred germicidal lamp's contribution to this olfactory delight.
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Post# 7832-10/31/2001-07:18 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday! (frigid rinsing - and washing for that matter)
MESSAGE: I have preached to many people about the hazards of cold water washing and rinsing, but it usually falls on deaf ears. "My washer only has cold rinses, so it must be OK."
I did convince one friend of mine last winter to try raising the temp of cold water with warm water fill to the medium level and then cold for the rest. Our cold water tap temp. gets pretty low in the winter time and she was impressed with the more "cool" temp she ended up with by doing this.
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Post# 7833-10/31/2001-07:20 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (YAY for Blue Monday)
MESSAGE: Hooray Anothony, another guy who doesn't like to fold and hates to unload the dishwasher!!!! And I thought I was the only one. But I gotta admit, since my new medication, it's not as bad as it used to be. And with my current illness, there's all sorts of cereal bowls and fruit/fingertip bowls that constitute each load along with lots of glasses and some vessels to heat up soup. And this comes from a set of dishes for 12 YIKES.
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Post# 7834-10/31/2001-07:24 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf tablets (grocery follies)
MESSAGE: I was walking around the store one time and a lady says to me, "you must really like hot chocolate!" I looked at my cart and realized I'd unknowingly abandoned my own card somewhere along the line and picked up a display cart full of Swiss Miss! There was a big sign on the front with the sale price and I just kept walking along.....
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Post# 7835-10/31/2001-07:29 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Its Magic)
MESSAGE: Well, I just checked and Endora is losing her touch, there's no Filtrator down there....
It was a magical sound though!
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Post# 7836-10/31/2001-07:52 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Try this....)
MESSAGE: How about a spell that will turn my WP and GE into a turquoise WCI58 pair.
Hmm... Let's see if this magic spell works "Owa... tagoo... siam... Oh mighty Frigmore... we bow before your stainless steel drum. We ask of you please... oh pretty please with a cherry on top... Appnut is cooly and Jason is looney, turn my Whirly into a Uni"
oh well, it's still a Whirly.
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Post# 7837-10/31/2001-08:06 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Its Magic)
MESSAGE: Now if only Endora could do some magic for me.........
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Post# 7838-10/31/2001-08:22 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday! (frigid rinsing - and washing for that matter)
MESSAGE: Well, at least you got one person to listen to you. One of the solutions to poor perma press performance is to stop washing in cold water. The fabrics have to get warmed sufficiently to relax the wrinkles and when people wash and rinse in cold water and either line dry or dry things in 115 volt dryers, the fabrics don't get a chance to warm up and shed the wrinkles. This does not even begin to address the cleaning question of body oils and stuff. UGH!
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Post# 7839-10/31/2001-08:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf tablets
MESSAGE: OOOppps, did I do that, keep moving, nothing to see here, would have been my reaction to that whole scene.
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Post# 7840-10/31/2001-08:52 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (iron your cares away)
MESSAGE: My grandmother, whose nickname is "Hop Sing", taught me to iron, and I do quite a good job at it, thank you very much! The problem is the time -- and I have none!
-ph
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Post# 7841-10/31/2001-08:57 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes ("
Hey I said Uni, not puny"
)
MESSAGE: You better be careful with a spell like that Jason as it could turn out to be an Aunt Clara or Esmerelda spell. After you say those words and waive your arms, you could end up going into your laundry room and find a tiny-weny doll-house sized Whirly washer. "Hey I said Uni, not puny".
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Post# 7842-10/31/2001-08:57 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday! (forever folding forever folding forever)
MESSAGE: This last weekend, I had just finished complaining to Jason that there is nothing worse than drop-off laundry from a family with small kids because all the little things you have to fold and it goes on forever, when this lady comes in and drops of some 35 lbs of toddler clothes! I didn't give myself enough time, so I was still folding when the lady returned to pick up her order. I was making small talk with her when Jason returned to the 'mat from running errands. I mouthed the word "HELP!" and he jumped right in. Still, between the 3 of us, it took about 15 minutes to finish everything up.
-ph
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Post# 7843-10/31/2001-09:02 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf tablets
MESSAGE: I kicked the stuff outta my way, moved forward and did not look back. I think I heard someone called to the produce dept, but it was not one of those "CLEANUP ON AISLE 5" type pages.
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Post# 7844-10/31/2001-09:05 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (iron your cares away)
MESSAGE: Thank you, Peter. And, if you had the time, is that the thing you would want to do most of all? If you do, fine, but that's not what I would put in a list of favorites in a personal ad and expect to get lots of calls.
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Post# 7845-10/31/2001-09:17 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: POD
MESSAGE: Now is that ever a dream come true set, she's one lucky gal!
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Post# 7846-10/31/2001-09:23 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday! (forever folding forever folding forever)
MESSAGE: Maybe you should tell people there are fewer wrinkles when things are rolled up instead of folded up. It is definitely true for packing.
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Post# 7847-10/31/2001-09:28 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: POD
MESSAGE: Yeah, but unless you lived alone it would be awkward having the washer and dryer in the only bathroom in the house. Please, please, I really need to get in there!!! Wait just a minute until I make sure it goes into spin properly balanced, or, I am sorry, I have to get this wash and wear load on hangers. Yeah, well you better hurry or there's gonna be more laundry to do right away.
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Post# 7848-10/31/2001-09:39 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Carefull with that spell)
MESSAGE: Oh, you must be very careful conjuring a spell like that. It only can be done on Halloweenie and the moon has to be full. And don't use Mountain Spring Tide as magic dust either or you might blow up the whole damn trailer park.
OK, this one's a little bit safer than the last one.
"Woody the woodpecker
Popeye the sailor
put a Unimatic
in my trailer"
(POOF!)
Aw man! Now I got Mountain Spring Tide all over the place. And it's still a Whirlpool. Now I have to vaccuum.
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Post# 7849-10/31/2001-10:47 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: Happy halloween everyone
MESSAGE: Hey gang!
(Appnut - this is especially for you. Hope you are feeling better. Here goes...)
KNOCK! KNOCK!
who's there???
BOO!!!
boo who???
PLEASE DON'T CRY! JUST HAVE A HAPPY HALLOWEENIE!!!
Wishing you all a safe and fun day and evening. Don't eat too much candy!
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Post# 7850-10/31/2001-10:59 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Uniclones)
MESSAGE: Please send some clones to Europe too, we can use them overhere!!
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Post# 7851-10/31/2001-11:15 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Suddenly my connection is better again and I was finally able to watch the estate sale pictures. Hmmm, Neil seams to enjoy getting under the hood, although I thought we would find him sooner under the hood of a car instead of one of a dryer.
Again some manuals saved! Another good deed!!
Louis
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Post# 7852-10/31/2001-11:15 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (YAY for Blue Monday)
MESSAGE: Sorry, TT - thanks for the suggestion, but the clothesline stays................ I'll sacrifice.............
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Post# 7853-10/31/2001-11:15 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (smooth operator)
MESSAGE: Oh really, Tom? Now you tell me...
SMOOTH OPERATOR
Self made man, tall, masculine, buff, 38, br/br, 6', 46" chest, looking for someone to share his life. Into antique hunting, mechanical repair, smoothing out life's little wrinkles and holding onto the one I love all night long. Independent, but loyal -- U be 2.
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Post# 7854-10/31/2001-11:17 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (YAY for Blue Monday)
MESSAGE: I have two rotary ironers and still too lazy to iron things.
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Post# 7855-10/31/2001-11:17 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday!
MESSAGE: Very true, TT. I just have been noticing this myself. Details to follow in a separate post where I will solicit the group's opinions about some particular items..................
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Post# 7856-10/31/2001-11:25 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf tablets
MESSAGE: Good haul on the Surf Tablets, TT. I have finally managed a score at the KMart 20 miles away. It took three weeks but I now have 4 boxes of Spring Fling Flavor tabs (56 count priced at $4.99 per box). Of course these were the only 4 boxes in the entire store. I also had a few coupons from last week's newspaper as well as my coupon book from Lever. So I ended up paying about $2.99 per box - not bad. Also, Calgon (8.7%phosphates - code "R") was there for $3.99 per box as opposed to $5.99 at my local Stop & Shop and Shaw's supermarkets. More expensive than STTP, but it will have to do for now.
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Post# 7857-10/31/2001-11:33 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday! (frigid rinsing - and washing for that matter)
MESSAGE: True here too, Greg. I am amazed at how many people still think that "the clothes come out cleaner washing in cold water". Damn those early Cold Power commercials!!!! Of course, I think everyone went on a cold washing binge in the early 70's. It didn't last in our house though. My mother got tired of finding undissolved detergent after the clothes were done - our cold water here in New England gets nastily cold in winter also. So, she got into the habit of starting with hot water (our warm water is also kind of cold....),dissolving the detergent then finishing with cold. Worked much better, but she still rinsed with cold..... That one is harder to change. Washers offer it as a selection and even detergent boxes suggest "cold rinsing is effective". Even though we know better, changing a culture is tough.........
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Post# 7858-10/31/2001-11:39 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf tablets (grocery follies)
MESSAGE: Hee, hee, ..... you should have told her it was a new diet program that all the Hollywood stars were using............. kind of a variation on "the zone".
Forgot to mention in my cold water tirade, it is easier to show people how cold washing DOESN'T work. When the topic comes up (a big surprise in my house) I always lead people to the kitchen, put a bit of oil on their hands, rub it in and ask them to wash it off using cold water. The results speak for themselves, and most people are appalled after they understand that this is exactly what is left in their clothes if they wash in cold water. Dramatic, but it works - - and you can devise all sorts of fun party games from this.
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Post# 7859-10/31/2001-11:41 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Try this....)
MESSAGE: Jason - looks like Oscar and Felix were at it again............
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Post# 7860-10/31/2001-11:45 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (iron your cares away)
MESSAGE: Don' be too sure TT - the personals around these parts have some very unusual things in them - ironing is tame in comparison........
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Post# 7861-10/31/2001-11:46 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: POD
MESSAGE: Sigh...............she sure is!!!!
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Post# 7862-10/31/2001-11:48 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (smooth operator)
MESSAGE: ????????????? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post# 7863-10/31/2001-11:55 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (smooth operator)
MESSAGE: Hon, "smoothing out life's little wrinkles" ain't the same as "prefers to stay at home and iron," although you get Washington, DC bonus spin points for trying to make poop smell like a rose.
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Post# 7864-10/31/2001-11:55 ||| appliguy (Vienna Va.)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Would Erma Bimbeck lie?)
MESSAGE: All this talk aobut ironing reminds me of Erma Bombeck and her hate for the ironing board. Erma swore till the day she died that the last chore a women wanted to do around the house was iron clothes. She proved this with one story in particular, It was the story of her neighbor....Mrs Breck who loved to iron(even to the point of ironing the tounges of her sons sneakers). At least that was what Mrs. Breck led Erma to believe until Erma saw a want ad in the paper from a women wanting to hire someone to do her ironing. Intrigued Erma called the number and the voice on the other end said " Hello, Mrs. Breck speaking..." after reading that story I was convinced that Erma was right NO ONE likes to iron, but I do iron my good pants if I forget to take them out of the dryer right away and my Sunday-go-to-church-dress-shirts because I starch the collar and cuffs because I like them stiff (it is easier for me to button the cuffs and collar that way). I have found that Niagra Spray Starch does my cuffs and collars just right. For my other shirts and stuff I just use the Tumble Press setting on my moms Whirlpool dryer to remove any wrinkles.
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Post# 7865-10/31/2001-11:55 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (YAY for Blue Monday)
MESSAGE: Louis, I'm a member of your club. Tom
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Post# 7866-10/31/2001-12:00 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday!
MESSAGE: Long ago when the world was young, laundry equipment manufacturers used to think that people read and they published wonderful booklets about laundry. I read how fibers relax and contract according to water temperature. While it was much more important in rinsing out soap, water temperature can open up fibers to cleaning and rinsing out of cleaning solutions or shut them down. This temperature thing was why good woolens cycles always were programmed to wash and rinse in the same temperature water so that the wool did not draw up and shrink from thermal shock when it went from warm wash water to cold rinse water.
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Post# 7867-10/31/2001-12:01 ||| appliguy (Vienna Va.)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Right on Tom)
MESSAGE: Well put Tom. Those of us who live in the DC area are sure used to people trying to turn manure into roses, smell and all.....hey maybe its that Esmerelda/Clara syndrome that Uni was warning Jason about (not HQQTS Jason but the other Jason) about.
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Post# 7868-10/31/2001-12:03 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf tablets
MESSAGE: Anthony, do you normally buy STPP? I will have to investigate local sources, although I can just picture the environment police tracing high phosphate discharges to my house. Good deals on the cleaners.
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Post# 7869-10/31/2001-12:05 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf tablets (grocery follies)
MESSAGE: Does this lead to the infamous Wesson Oil parties? Tell the people, "No wonder your clothes are so soft, there is all that oil left on them, just like on your hands."
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Post# 7870-10/31/2001-12:06 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Try this....)
MESSAGE: Jason you are too much. However, if the spell works, direct one to Texas right now!!!!!
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Post# 7871-10/31/2001-12:08 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Its Magic)
MESSAGE: Jason, you don't need Endora to do magic for you. You're the one that does magical things with appliances & cars!!!! you witching little scamp you!!! LOL
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Post# 7872-10/31/2001-12:09 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (iron your cares away)
MESSAGE: Yes, Anthony, but unusual should equal fun for both parties and ironing of clothes does not equal fun. And we are not going to discuss C&B torture with a cold mangle or suspending irons in mid air by tying the cords around portions of anatomy.
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Post# 7873-10/31/2001-12:10 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday! (frigid rinsing - and washing for that matter)
MESSAGE: That's right on Tom. I can't even vaguely remember a time when I EVER did a peppermint press load in anything cooler than warm. Just like you said, it's the chemical action of relaxing those fibers and loosening those body oils.
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Post# 7874-10/31/2001-12:13 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf tablets
MESSAGE: I do something like that almost on a monthly basis, misjudge some display that's been put in the aisle and bam, I hit it and knock something over. I just consider it a part of my grocery shopping experience. But it's no worse than walking into a plate glass window panel thinkiing it was an open doorway.
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Post# 7875-10/31/2001-12:17 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday! (forever folding forever folding forever)
MESSAGE: Peter, yes, but once the three of you finished, y'all toddled right along with the rest of your day.
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Post# 7876-10/31/2001-12:19 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (YAY for Blue Monday)
MESSAGE: I have found that I could dissolve regular corn starch in hot water and it makes a perfectly acceptable liquid starch for clothes.
This was back when I used to purchase and iron all-cotton dress shirts for work. Now it's jeans and short sleeve shirts or perm press. But I do have a Rowenta iron, also.
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Post# 7877-10/31/2001-12:19 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD
MESSAGE: Yes, I as drooling so much over that pair, I could have filled up the Lady in 2 miinutes with water.
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Post# 7878-10/31/2001-12:20 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday! (forever folding forever folding forever)
MESSAGE: That's what I did when I came to Minnie, I rolled everything up. Worked like a charm.
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Post# 7879-10/31/2001-12:21 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: General Assistance Questions
MESSAGE: Of course, "mes chers", we must remember that there are a ton of people who feel about laundry the way most of us feel about ironing - - shocking, I know, but all too true!!!!
Anyway I need input on a few things. Here goes:
1) I occasionally will grate up some Fels Naptha soap and use it in the washer (Amana TL) - generally 3/4 to 1 cup of flakes for a full load using hot water. I start the water, add 1/2 cup Calgon and then the soap. I let it dissolve and then add the clothes. I have noticed that, using a warm rinse and additional Calgon in the first rinse, I still saw a waxy film, with a few bubbles on top of the water on the second rinse. Two more rinses later and most of it was gone but there was still a trace. Could that film have been additional leftover soap? I don't necessarily think I oversoaped - there was only a thin layer of suds during the wash. Or could it have been other leftover detergent? Any ideas?
2) Considering the year I have had, I thought I might treat myself to some new laundry equipment. I have been happy with my Amana pair, but I have been bitten by the FL bug. I immediately thought FriGEMore, but I have been reading about Miele and well, I am now not certain. I like the idea of Miele's long term reliability, but it is a costly item. I went to my local "authorized" Miele dealer and looked closely at the 1926. The capacity is a bit smaller than the FriGEMores, and the regular cycles are undeniably longer. So, folks, all pluses and minuses considered and given the choice - which would you choose? And would you consider the Miele dryer? (Note if I get the FriGEMore - I will keep the Amana dryer - I don't see any real advantage to getting the FRiGEMore dryer over the Amana... )
Thanks for the input, I know this is a shy group!!!!!!!!
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Post# 7880-10/31/2001-12:21 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD
MESSAGE: But Tom, that was an image ad. Of COURSE the house would have been so extravagent that it came with the luxury of TWO bathrooms in 1957.
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Post# 7881-10/31/2001-12:23 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (ok, here goes)
MESSAGE: Put your protective eyewear kids.
(hiding the Mountain Spring Tide so it doesn't make another mess)
Majestic Speed Queen
and sweet Lady K
Please send a Unimatic
to Appnut today.
(KA-BOOM!!!!!!!)
Crap, now the Downy bottle exploded. sheesh... Hope it worked.
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Post# 7882-10/31/2001-12:24 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday! (YEP)
MESSAGE: That's how it's done when packing. You can fits lots of clothes in a small bag that way.
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Post# 7883-10/31/2001-12:24 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (YAY for Blue Monday)
MESSAGE: When I studied nutrition in the '70's, a major concern at that time (and it may still be one) is that ghetto women would develop a penchant for eating dry laundry starch. The reasons are complex, but the result of course is malnutrition, as the starch has only calories and no vitamins, protein, or minerals. One of the more obscure reasons is that there is an African cultural tradition of consuming small amounts of certain types of chalk or mineral-laden dirt. This is now thought to have a real nutritional value, as it introduces needed minerals into the diet. The dry starch approximates the look and feel of the chalky soil. There is also a known medical condition where people crave chalk. Rather than being a psychological disorder, this may be the result of a very natural and healthy impulse to supplement a diet lacking in minerals. There was a PBS program on the subject about 10 years ago, that was fascinating. I wish I had taped it...
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Post# 7884-10/31/2001-12:25 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (YAY for Blue Monday)
MESSAGE: Geez Anthony, if any of us cam to visit, hanging around with you would have ahwole new meaning. Or hanging out with you too.
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Post# 7885-10/31/2001-12:26 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy Holler-weenie!
MESSAGE: There's an urban trailer park a few blocks from my home. I might just put on some perm-press sheets and check it out... lol...
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Post# 7886-10/31/2001-12:27 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Its Magic)
MESSAGE: Actually, I heard it in Netscape, but it was very low volume and hard to identify.
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Post# 7887-10/31/2001-12:34 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (smooth operator)
MESSAGE: Peter, I can't imagine you with a 46" chest. Are you sure you're really describing yourself here?
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Post# 7888-10/31/2001-12:41 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: home page...gentle cycle
MESSAGE: Wow! My home page is on gentle today. Robert must be washing his delicate unmetionables in the 58 Unimatic. Ha!
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Post# 7889-10/31/2001-12:43 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: General Assistance Questions
MESSAGE: Anothony, if you're considering a Miele or a Fridgemore, why not "compromise and consider the He3T--capacity and thermal heating supplement. Just my opinion. But several of us have been impressed with the Hettie's potential.
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Post# 7890-10/31/2001-12:46 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (ok, here goes)
MESSAGE: Thanks Jason for the effort of the spell, but I just checked. There's still the LK in the laundry room with 7 pairs of sweats in her soaking out my incision fluids with Biz.
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Post# 7891-10/31/2001-12:49 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: home page...gentle cycle
MESSAGE: Rich, it's always had that slow pulsating action on my home page. But, since I pointed out that the cycle timer was set for heavy soil and it was overflow rinsing, I decided I better not push my luck with Robert since he said we were such a tough crowd here. I'm glad you delicately handled this situation. You 3-ring tooter you!!!
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Post# 7892-10/31/2001-12:52 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (oh well)
MESSAGE: Maybe next halloween.
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Post# 7893-10/31/2001-12:56 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf tablets (supermarket menace)
MESSAGE: Hi Tom
Ha! I can jsut see you "tearing" through that store. Those displays in aisles annoy me too. Especially when you get a shopper that decides to stand next to one reading package labels and blocking the whole aisle. Our Sunday newspaper had a $1.50 off coupon for Surf tabs and I noticed Target had them for $4.99, so I might try a box. Everytime I find a coupon for, or there is a sale on, a detergent brand that I use I buy it whether I need it or not. I have detergent in the laundry room cabinets, the linen closet in the hallway, and in the kitchen pantry. Ha!
Rich
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Post# 7894-10/31/2001-12:58 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday! (Woolens and Rinsing)
MESSAGE: The Woolens cycle on my F&P is the only one that has a warm rinse. Interesting that it defaults to a warm wash, but also be set to cool or cold for wash, but the rinse would still be warm.
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Post# 7895-10/31/2001-13:10 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy halloween everyone
MESSAGE: Happy holloween Rich and to everyone else in Applianceville.
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Post# 7896-10/31/2001-13:12 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Oh Louis, I think he felt very at home under the pink hood, boy if he reads this I'm really going to be in "Hot" water.
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Post# 7897-10/31/2001-13:12 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: home page...gentle cycle
MESSAGE: I like the way that timer looks, it very simular to the one my aunt had on her mid 60's Kenmore seventy machine.
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Post# 7898-10/31/2001-13:22 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy halloween everyone
MESSAGE: "Happy Halloween" to all of you also! The Halloween parade will be in full swing tonight in Greenwich Villiage. They are saying the theme is more super hero's then ghouls, ghousts, etc. (lol) I'll have to check it out and see.
"Brooklyn Robert"
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Post# 7899-10/31/2001-13:27 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Ok THAT's IT)
MESSAGE: Ok THAT's IT Jason---
Dr. Bombay, Dr. Bombay, EMERGENCY Come Right Away (to JasonL's house that is).
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Post# 7900-10/31/2001-13:29 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (YAY for Blue Monday)
MESSAGE: WOW! That was great! Thanks, I didn't know anything about that!
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Post# 7901-10/31/2001-13:31 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Its Magic)
MESSAGE: Rich, I need to do more experimenting to see if I can get the sound embed function the same between IE and Netscape. The performance in Internet Explorer was much smoother, just like everything else I have wrote for this web site, than in Netsape 4.7 or 6. PC Week called the Browser wars over last week, with IE being the clear winner, personally, from my programming experiences, I hope they are right.
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Post# 7902-10/31/2001-13:31 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy halloween everyone
MESSAGE: A Happy (and Safe) Halloween to all! (For me, it's just another workday and night.)
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Post# 7903-10/31/2001-13:33 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: home page...gentle cycle
MESSAGE: Tich it Sounds like you need good boot, I mean Re-boot - LOL.
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Post# 7904-10/31/2001-13:34 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (ok, here goes)
MESSAGE: Thanks for sharing Bob.
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Post# 7905-10/31/2001-13:59 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Prersonal Ads)
MESSAGE: Sounds better than:
Metermaid with nightstick. Knows how to use it. Looking for same.
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Post# 7906-10/31/2001-14:00 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday! (forever folding forever folding forever)
MESSAGE: Hi Peter;
The folding is OK for me. Sometimes if I hang stuff on the line I try to match them up on the way out so it's easier on the way back! (lol) When you have the pulley type clothes lines the small stuff has to go out first so if it's to windy it won't wrap around the line so far out! I can only imagine what it's like for you in a commerical laundry. I only do small scale, just for close friends. I hope you have a nice "Halloween"!
"Brooklyn Robert"
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Post# 7907-10/31/2001-14:15 ||| appliguy (Vienna Va.)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (how about this spell?)
MESSAGE: JasonL,
Maybe you don't have the right power, let me give it a try.
Whirlpool, Kenmore, Duo Matic
Downey and Bounce prevent static
here my plea that is emphatic
deliver unto JasonL a Unimatic
(POOF) Well did it work?
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Post# 7908-10/31/2001-14:17 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: home page...gentle cycle
MESSAGE: Hi Robert! Yep...you were right...when I logged in the next time it was pulsing at regular speed. The gentle action looked pretty cool...I thought maybe it was something you purposely had done with your web wizardry.
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Post# 7909-10/31/2001-14:21 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf tablets (swiss miss)
MESSAGE: Ha ha ha...Greg I can jsut see you wandering through the store with that cart. Did it have a big sign on the front that said "Swiss Miss on sale"??
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Post# 7910-10/31/2001-14:22 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: General Assistance Questions
MESSAGE: Perhaps I should wait until some of the bugs are worked out of the Hetties.........................
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Post# 7911-10/31/2001-14:47 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (YAY for Blue Monday)
MESSAGE: Hi Anthony;
I just use the spary stuff if and when I use it! Williamsburg Brooklyn, was never a posh neighborhood as you know, but I like the old world stuff about it small grocery stores, bread stores, pork stores etc. Being able to yell "Ah Vinny" out the window and being herd from two blocks away. (lol) I grew up in Howard Beach Queens which is much more of a well to do area then this. Alot of my friends ask me why I would live here, I just say I live here because I want to and not because I have to. I just feel at home hee and I don't know why! (lol)
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Post# 7912-10/31/2001-15:46 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: home page...gentle cycle
MESSAGE: A Unimatic with a gentle cycle, that would be sacrilegious!
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Post# 7913-10/31/2001-15:47 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday! (frigid rinsing - and washing for that matter)
MESSAGE: A friend of mine wondered aloud once what could possibly be causing white powder on his dark clothes after washing. He had a BOL std. cap. Maytag helical drive, overloaded, cold water and pouring the soap on top of the load upon starting. I think it's your machine -- hee hee!
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Post# 7914-10/31/2001-15:58 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf tablets (swiss miss)
MESSAGE: Yeah, and one on my ass that said kick me!
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Post# 7915-10/31/2001-16:54 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Ok, time for the big guns...)
MESSAGE: This is Halloween, and it's a full moon. I have a full box of Tide, 2 Downy Balls, and all the Clorox you can drink down.
OK, Appnut, step away from the washer and put on your hard hat. Here comes our Unimatics.
OOH EE OOH AH AH
TING TING
WALLA WALLA BING BANG
(KA-BLOOEY!!!)
Oh man, will Wal-Mart refund me for the exploded Tide? Well? Did it work? Nope.. It's still a Whirly.
Ok, maybe next year :-D
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Post# 7916-10/31/2001-17:02 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf tablets (grocery store "
laughs"
)
MESSAGE: Air-head me, absent mindedly walked into the ladies room at the nearby Publix,(the store motto is "where shopping is a pleasure") well.......another guy followed....the two of us looking for urinals...duh none to be found! It created quite a sensation for all involved......both ladies and gents in attendance! Still makes me smile & blush every time I'm in the store.
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Post# 7917-10/31/2001-17:07 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (YAY for Blue Monday)
MESSAGE: You feel at home there for the same reason I still feel at home when I walk around downtown Brooklyn and through Fort Greene. It's a homey neighborhood with "real folks"
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Post# 7918-10/31/2001-17:14 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday! (frigid rinsing - and washing for that matter)
MESSAGE: I am always amazed at how badly people do laundry and how they are not even the least bit embarrassed by it. One of my friends actually mentioned that he just throws everything in together and he knows he is really bad at laundry. I pointed out that if you plan to be bad at something, you should at least have the decency to be bad at something considerably more difficult. His answer - "Who really cares what your clothes look like anyway"? .................I awoke from my coma four days later........
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Post# 7919-10/31/2001-17:15 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf tablets (grocery store )
MESSAGE: Oh, hell we have all done that at one time or another. What amazes me is that it took me a full minute to figure out what was wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post# 7920-10/31/2001-17:38 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy Holler-weenie!
MESSAGE: No, but I do remember a '70's National Lampoon comic strip story about how when Lurleen became governor, she made George work as her maid, all dressed up in a black and white frilled maid's uniform. George got back at her by feeding her various dishes made of carcinogenic rats (Rat-a-toui), and she got cancer and died. Of course none of this is true but I remember getting a laugh out of the outfit and the menu item names. What's the connection with vintage laundry? Well I suppose part of George's alleged duties would have included doing the mansion's laundry in what would now be a vintage clothes washer.
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Post# 7921-10/31/2001-17:44 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf tablets (ooops!)
MESSAGE: Hi Leslie!
That story reminds me of the time I was in the locker room at the gym and a little old lady in a bathing suit comes walking in from the pool into a room full of naked men. You should have seen her face! And how fast she ran out! About 1140 rpm's! Ha ha...still makes me laugh! I bet it still makes her heart skip a beat to think about it too.
Rich
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Post# 7922-10/31/2001-17:50 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday! (Bwahahaha @ the posts today)
MESSAGE: You guys have been making me laugh all day.
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Post# 7923-10/31/2001-17:54 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf tablets (grocery store )
MESSAGE: LOL @ Leslie, too! Lotsa fun today.
(I'm sure you recovered gracefully.)
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Post# 7924-10/31/2001-18:05 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: POD
MESSAGE: Agnus:
Yep....... I'd say.
Even...... what I wouldn't do to have a pair like that if I was a living young adult back in 1957. And in Black (or did they call it "Wisdor" back then) on top of that. I didn't know "Frigies" came in Black back then. That's pretty pair, that's for sure. The best looking Frigies" I've seen so far.
--Charles--
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Post# 7925-10/31/2001-19:03 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: General Assistance Questions
MESSAGE: Anthony, have you ever read that washing clothes in soap leaves them with a "natural softness?" The softness is produced by the waxy coating soap leaves on the clothes. It is a natural part of washing with soap, just like the Zest commercials that show Zest, being a detergent, leaving no film behind while soap does. If you stopped at the second rinse, you would not need to use softener to have soft clothes. If you read any home magazines in the early 50s there were articles about this and the film on clothes that detergents would remove, but the clothes would feel harsher. It is not for nothing that fabric softeners were only invented after the introduction of synthetic detergents.
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Post# 7926-10/31/2001-19:09 ||| trainguy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: Lady Kenmore Help (Could Not Have Done It Without You.)
MESSAGE: Thanks to you and DADoES for the assistance. It actually came loose with a pair of channel locks. The 4 bolts came out of the outer tub easily. The tub is loose, but I have to work on it some more. The shaft it has to come off of is rusty, and there is a white seal that won't budge. I'll take my time and it should work. That whole slide show is great. The one other thing that has me confused (only 1 other thing?) is that this machine has a gadget on the bottom that has a hose coming out of it going to an area marked suds. The hose above this is marked drain. But I don't see anything on the timer that says sudswater like my Frigidaire has on the wash water temperature selector dial. This restoration will be a challenge, but I'm looking forward to the finished product. Thanks again for the help. Rich
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Post# 7927-10/31/2001-19:28 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: General Assistance Questions
MESSAGE: Actually, TT, I do know about this phenom. Having read home magazines of the 50's and 60's I even remember the Instant Fels ads that touted the "built in fabric softener" in that product. Funny that I completely forgot that - - probably because I do not use "soap" in most washes. I must say though that even after the four rinses, my clothes were still reasonably soft. I say reasonably since I line dry most things anyway. Question though, does that waxy coating tend to build up over time or is it replaced by a new waxy coating with each wash? While I was reasonably pleased with the results, I am not particularly keen on grating up Fels bars for laundry purposes regularly............. Does anyone make a granulated soap product anymore?
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Post# 7928-10/31/2001-19:29 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD
MESSAGE: She married well.
I, on the other hand, did not.
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Post# 7929-10/31/2001-19:33 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: General Assistance Questions (Break the water - )
MESSAGE: I have a load of wash to do tonight, I will use a warm rinse machine and try my new (60's) Ivory Snow.
Calgon or STPP?
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Post# 7930-10/31/2001-19:57 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: General Assistance Questions (Break the water - )
MESSAGE: I vote for the STTP - since I remember that your water is reasonably hard -might as well pull out all the stops!
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Post# 7931-10/31/2001-19:58 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf tablets (beware of the "
little old ladies"
)
MESSAGE: Last Saturday, while helping my better half out on a house cleaning job, the 76 year old seemingly "prim & proper" lady of the house, related a story about a mutual acquaintance. She commented about this womans taste in fashions up to and including the hemline of her skirts. Specifically how high they are. In fact some are said to be so high......you can see her "pu**y"! NO MAAM!!!! I could not believe my ears....we laughed hysterically. She further proclaimed that if this gal has another facelift, she'll have a beard. I guess this is one of those stories where you had to be "there" to get the full effect. Bottom--line, I think a lot of older folks reach a point where they no longer care what they say sometimes....how liberating. Happy halloween...Leslie
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Post# 7932-10/31/2001-21:04 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT: RE: General Assistance Questions (Break the water - )
MESSAGE: I agree, STPP is the better choice. In some areas, Calgon might actually contain STPP, but the little wax code letter on the side of the box, that is supposed to indicate if the Calgon contains any phosphates, is difficult to decipher. With STPP, there's little doubt. And if the Calgon contians no phosphates, then it probably just has a precipitating softener like sodium carbonate, which will redeposit the product of its conjoining with hard water minerals, all over your clothes and/or your washer, which is not the goal.
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Post# 7933-10/31/2001-21:05 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf tablets (beware of the )
MESSAGE: LOL!
I guess you were both lucky she didn't offer a demonstration!
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Post# 7934-10/31/2001-21:16 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (YAY for Blue Monday)
MESSAGE: Yes Anthony; very real people, I can't believe how real sometimes. (lol) I hope your having a nice "Halloween" I've even had a few kids ring the bell today for candy, it was great, usually no one comes around. I always buy alot just in case, and take whats left to work, the cops here are happy with anything especialy at 2:30am when they get the munchies!
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Post# 7935-10/31/2001-21:21 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday! (frigid rinsing - and washing for that matter)
MESSAGE: LOL! This is so true! That's why I do laundry for some of my close firends. I couldn't belive when one of them told me he throws a pair of blue levis in with the white clothes so they can get whiter. I stood there speachless!
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Post# 7936-10/31/2001-21:24 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (I can still smell it!!)
MESSAGE: You guys are so right. If I close my eyes I seem to be back in Robert's basement. I can still smell the scent from the Filtrator and the vintage detergents. Robert you made many happy memories for so many of us. Terry
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Post# 7937-10/31/2001-21:24 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday! (frigid rinsing - and washing for that matter)
MESSAGE: Uhhh, call me slow or confused, either or both. So what can get whiter? The Levis (by losing their blue), or the whites ( by way of the "blueing" in the jeans?
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Post# 7938-10/31/2001-21:42 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday! (frigid rinsing - and washing for that matter)
MESSAGE: My mom used to basically throw everything in together. She didn't cotton too much to the idea of all the sorting I used to try to do once I learned from her friends how to properly do laundry. I started doing my own laundry when she ruined a ban-lon shirt of mine that had gone in with a towel or two. But ya know what, to this day, when I go home to visit, if there's a pile of clothes on the laundry room floor, it means it's there for me to tend to because she know I'll "do it correctly", whatever it takes. Go figure. At least now she at least separates undies & towels from the "clothes".
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Post# 7939-10/31/2001-21:54 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Charcole Gary)
MESSAGE: Charles the offical Frigidaire color name was "Charcole Gray"
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Post# 7940-10/31/2001-21:55 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Lady Kenmore Help (Questions, Questions)
MESSAGE: Is there a dial marking called "Suds" Rich? Does this device have a solenoid attached to it?
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Post# 7941-10/31/2001-21:56 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (I can still smell it!!)
MESSAGE: YAY, thanks Terry, and we'll do it again.
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Post# 7942-10/31/2001-22:00 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Our Tacky Halloween Photos
MESSAGE: Hey guys, we took a few shots of the pumpkin we carved this evening and of the kids, coming around trick-or-treating, we emptied the candy bowl. That was a good thing because otherwise I'll be eating that candy for the rest of the week.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/whirlpool525/lst?.dir=/Halloween+2001&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/whirlpool525/lst%3f.dir=/Halloween%2b2001%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 7943-10/31/2001-22:16 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Tacky Halloween Photos
MESSAGE: Uni, what yummy candies......Mary Jane & Jujyfruits. Kinda missed the pumpkin carving, candy & kids this year.....no such fun hanging out in a hotel tonight. Somewhere there is a kid inside all of us...really enjoyed your photo link!!!!Yay. L.P.
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Post# 7944-10/31/2001-22:43 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Tacky Halloween Photos (How my stomach celebrated)
MESSAGE: Leslie don't feel too bad, I wasn't home either. Went out with a friend riding to almost to Killeen to pick up his riding lawn mower. Then came back to their house to drop it off (they have a "South Fork" type of place, about 5 acres and a lovely house with 90s Whirlpool appliances). Then met his wife in town at Luby's and I celebrated with soft food---YAY. Mac & cheese, mashed potatoes, green beens, and navy beans. Thus far, everything is okay. YAY.
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Post# 7945-10/31/2001-22:57 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf tablets (beware of the )
MESSAGE: Over the past few years my grandmother has become very bold and will not hesitate to tell anyone to go f-off or anything else along those lines. I'm not sure if it is her age or if I am really rubbing off on her. And most think she is just a sweet little lady.
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Post# 7946-10/31/2001-23:13 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Halloween)
MESSAGE: A few kids came around here too. Unfortunately, I didn't think about buying any candy for them. They seemed rather unappreciative of the Surf tablets (but there was no way they were getting the last of my Persil Colour Capsules).
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Post# 7947-10/31/2001-23:37 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Halloween)
MESSAGE: I'm never home on H'ween night, but I did make a quick stop between jobs this evening. LOTS of kids roaming. Alas, I don't even have detergent tablets to offer, and no time to fix up some Bravo in plastic bags.
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Post# 7948-10/31/2001-00:10 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (ok, here goes)
MESSAGE: Perhaps I should send you some holy water from the St. Boniface well to sprinkle over your LK. Who knows what it turns into LOL
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Post# 7949-10/31/2001-00:21 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday! (frigid rinsing - and washing for that matter)
MESSAGE: From what he said it was the blue runnig from the jeans making the white clothes whiter! Like some twisted way to get blueing (lol) I rather buy it you can measure it better! (lol)
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Post# 7950-10/31/2001-00:23 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday! (match things on clothesline)
MESSAGE: Hi Robert,
I do not often hang things on clotheslines, but when I do it I want to do it right. I too like to hang matching things together. A while ago I took a picture.
Louis
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/vwp?.dir=/My+Photo+Album&.dnm=Linedrying+whites.JPG&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 7951-10/31/2001-00:35 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (ok, here goes)
MESSAGE: Works for me Luigi. We could resurrect a miracle of a WCI58 like Uni's turq. machine, but I want it in charcoal grey.
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Post# 7952-10/31/2001-00:38 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday! (confession time)
MESSAGE: I have to confess I have done that in the past too and whatever you say, I still have the whitest whites of the whole neighbourhood. Mostly because of Ariel ofcourse!
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Post# 7953-10/31/2001-00:41 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Charcole Gary)
MESSAGE: It is almost as beautiful as harvest gold!
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Post# 7954-10/31/2001-00:44 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Charcole Gary)
MESSAGE: Louis, I hope you view harvest gold as beautiful and not as a curse as Greg does. Otherwise, ou are blaspheming when comparing it with charcoal grey. That's one beautiful pair in the POD.
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Post# 7955-10/31/2001-00:44 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Tacky Halloween Photos (How my stomach celebrated)
MESSAGE: Glad to hear that Bob! YAY!
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Post# 7956-10/31/2001-00:46 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Charcole Gary)
MESSAGE: Almost, but doesn't have the same warmth and cheeriness!
Here's a link to my '58 Frigidaire range in Charcoal Gray - not the best, I need to take a couple with the digital camera.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Frigidaire&.src=ph&.dnm=In+The+Kitchen.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Frigidaire%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 7957-10/31/2001-00:48 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Charcole Gary)
MESSAGE: Greg, thanks for the reminder. I still think it's a beautiful color. Just like my own black glass appliances now. P.S., can't sleep so here I am.
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Post# 7958-10/31/2001-00:57 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Charcole Gary)
MESSAGE: It's a wonderful stove, I love the color too. Bob, I was just teasing Greg and almost by miracle he responded immediately LOL!
I was up early. Today I have a day off from work to do some things in the new apartment. The handyman comes today to see what things have to be done. I'll instruct him on the plumbing ofcourse so I can have a wonderful laundry corner in the bathroom. BTW, I get confused by the use of the word bathroom. In my bathroom there is only a sink and a shower. The toilet is in a separated space on a lower floor. Could you explain what words you use for them?
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Post# 7959-10/31/2001-01:07 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Charcole Gary)
MESSAGE: Louis, I don't think we have an equivalent word. Here, a bathroom consists of a sink, toilet, and either a tub or shower. Now, down here in the South, a "Powder Room" or "half-bath" would consist of a sink & toilet. But I know of no arrangement in the states where there's a sink & shower in one level and a toilet on another floor. However, in the house I grew up in, and it was common in more upscale subdivision, to have the sink in one part of the "bathroom" and the toilet & tub/shower was behind a second door. I believe in the 60s this as referred to as a split bath. It allowed one gender of a child to use the sink while another gendered child could use the other facilities. Worked well in our household with two sisters & myself.
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Post# 7960-10/31/2001-01:13 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Charcole Gary)
MESSAGE: Louis, in some Master Bedroom bath arrangements, I've seen where the sinks & shower &/or tub are in one area and then the toilet is tucked away in its own little "wc" for privacy. But never saw this arrangement in a "hall bath" where the children used that bath. The "half bath" or "powder room" was primarily used for guests to "use the facilities". Interestingly enough, the house next door to ours (where the KLM family lived) had a 1/2 bath just off the laundry room. Consisted of sink & toilet. I believe the "idea" was to have a bathroom accessable for those coming in from the outside just to "use the facilities" and not be tracking all the way through the house to get to a bathroom to "use the facilities".
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Post# 7961-10/31/2001-01:32 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Charcole Gary)
MESSAGE: Aha!! WC sounds familiar. Since there is no sink in the toilet (these houses were very basic when they were built) I guess it's a WC. You were supposed to wash your hands in the kitchen. I think about putting in a sink inthere later.
Which leaves me with the bathroom which probably should be called a showerroom. Ofcourse I also could call it the laundryroom which makes it a very luxurious one having a shower and a bathroomsink!!!
Got to go now
Louis
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Post# 7962-10/31/2001-01:33 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday! (confession time)
MESSAGE: I've tired Ariel, I can get that here in Brooklyn, it was nice and had I nice smell, it comes in plastic bags here, not in a box like most others. But I'm sold on Gain it's still my favorite brand, with or with out bleach, liquid or powder what ever I can get my hands on!
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Post# 7963-10/31/2001-01:56 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday! (match things on clothesline)
MESSAGE: That's a great picture, you hang your clothes like the lady in the nexy building she puts a little U shape in her things save room. Also uses the same clothes pin effect, where you use one clothes pin to attach two pieces. It's great. I have three very long lines from different windows so space isn't a problem. I don't make that U shape unless it's under shirts, I don't want make them loose their shape. I also put some special things on clothes hangers and hook it on the line with a clothes pin, it can makes less wrinkles too. The bed sheets, blankets, I try to stretch out far fold them in half long ways so they won't get twisted aroud the top line. One of the neighbors who lives on a top floor apartment in the next biulding ties a plastic bottle, full of water, to the lower line to hold it down on windy days. I've also seen people use empty clorox bottles with a triangle cut out near the top as a clothes pin holder (I have to write and tell Martha Stewart, she might be interested). She may show us how you can take a tree and make it into clothes pins! I like the wood clip on type clothes pins. My grandmother used the push on typical looking ones.
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Post# 7964-11/1/2001-02:02 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Halloween)
MESSAGE: Some people give money, like quarters, dimes, etc., it might be a little more safe then candy today, but not as much fun. I stiil bought the candy, I don't think they though of anthraxing that yet!
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Post# 7965-11/1/2001-02:14 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf tablets (beware of the )
MESSAGE: My Grandmother was always like that! As long as I can remember, she told everyone exactly what she though and what was on her mind. She weighed about 250lbs. and was around 5'tall, worked in a sewing factory here in Brooklyn all her life. She used to say "SO" -- "let them get use to me", I'll never change I'm too old. (lol) What can I say, she knew enough to buy the Thor and then the RCA Whirlpool that I still have now, she was my favorite! I stiil think of her often and miss having her around.
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Post# 7966-11/1/2001-05:19 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (YAY for Blue Monday)
MESSAGE: Surprisingly we were cleaned out of candy this year and indeed I had to make a run to the supermarket for a few additional bags. Actually, I had more kids this year than ever. In our neighborhood, parents take the little ones around and it was very upbeat and social. Very uplifting...............
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Post# 7967-11/1/2001-05:24 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Surf tablets (beware of the )
MESSAGE: It's a rite of passage among the "elderly". Kind of going full circle - little kids (before they are taught differently)and older folks say what's on their minds. Maybe there is a lesson there for all of us!! At least it gives us something to look forward to.....
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Post# 7968-11/1/2001-05:25 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Halloween)
MESSAGE: I swear I thought of handing out Surf Tablets also. If I had copies of the old Norge book "Let's Cook Up a Wash", I would have handed out copies of that with the Surf!!!
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Post# 7969-11/1/2001-05:26 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday! (frigid rinsing - and washing for that matter)
MESSAGE: Also, I suspect the blue dye from the jeans is very different from the compounds in laundry blueing - which is not a dye at all.
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Post# 7970-11/1/2001-05:28 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday! (match things on clothesline)
MESSAGE: Louis - a man after my own heart. That was absolutely lovely! I also feel the symmetry of hangig like kind items together is so important!
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Post# 7971-11/1/2001-05:30 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday! (confession time)
MESSAGE: Speaking of Ariel - I managed to find some British Ariel tablets. If you thought the powder had a strong scent - the tablets are way more scented. It was a bit too much for me. I prefer the scent of Viva pwoder, but am heving trouble here in the east.
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Post# 7972-11/1/2001-05:31 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Charcole Gary)
MESSAGE: Glad to hear the soft food went well - you must let us know when you are back to barbecue!!!!!!!
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Post# 7973-11/1/2001-05:34 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Charcole Gary)
MESSAGE: Quite common here in New England also. Many laundry rooms were in something called a mud room which was entered from the back or side door - always off the kitchen. Many times that was combined with a powder room or half bath
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Post# 7974-11/1/2001-05:35 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday! (confession time)
MESSAGE: Robert in an earlier post I mentioned they have changed the fragrance of Gain yet again - has that hit your stores yet??
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Post# 7975-11/1/2001-06:23 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Halloween)
MESSAGE: Oooh - I know where I want to go trick or treating...
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Post# 7976-11/1/2001-07:01 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: General Assistance Questions
MESSAGE: Anthony, Proper laundering should prevent a greater buildup, but it will involve using Calgon in the first rinse like you do. I have heard that soap is wonderful for woolens because the soap film sort of duplicates the natural lanolin. BTW, I would not worry about bugs to be gotten out of the WP Duet. They have a guarantee and a policy of the customer being able to send it back if not completely satisfied. I have a Miele and while it is a good machine, it is small and I think I am going to like the Duet better. I do like the way I can turn the heat up to 200F in the Miele. It really gets dirty things like awful cleaning rags clean, but I think the larger drum in the Duet/Sears Hettie will be a better fit to American washing habits. TT
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Post# 7977-11/1/2001-07:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Charcole Gary)
MESSAGE: Louis, when I was in the Netherlands I found that seperate tiny little room room with just a toilet very strange. We don't have any word to describe that room here in the USA because we never seperate the toilet with the sink and shower. In Great Britian I think its called a Water Closet.
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Post# 7978-11/1/2001-07:08 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: General Assistance Questions (Break the water - )
MESSAGE: CALGON is best at sequestering CALcium ions. CAL GON = calcium gone! If your water hardness is due to calcium, Calgon will work fine. If your water hardness is due to magnesium ions, another softener like the STTP would be better. You might be able to find this out from the water utility or from a place that sells water treatment products. HEY CULLIGAN MAN!! (remember the ads?)
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Post# 7979-11/1/2001-07:16 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Tacky Halloween Photos
MESSAGE: Robert, I am constantly in awe of your talent. The pumpkin looked great as do both of you. Thanks for sharing. We had absolutely nothing in the neighborhood. Everyone is very afraid of something happening here. I turned out the lights in the front part of the house as soon as it got dark.
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Post# 7980-11/1/2001-07:24 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Halloween)
MESSAGE: Anthony, the Norge book is where I first read about Javelle water. TT
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Post# 7981-11/1/2001-07:59 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Tacky Halloween Photos
MESSAGE: Thank you Tom, but I can't take credit for the pumpkin carvin' that was Neal's artistic doing.
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Post# 7982-11/1/2001-08:23 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire art work
MESSAGE: That's some really nice art work on the Frigidaire at on the picture of the day. I would love to get my hands on a poster of that to hang in the laundry room. Living room?
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Post# 7983-11/1/2001-09:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire art work (Stretching the Truth)
MESSAGE: Yes that is some piece of art in the POD Ed, not to mention the claims that ad makes. It's nice to know that not one of those advertising claims in that ad is stretching the truth in any way shape or form. I can rest easy now.
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Post# 7984-11/1/2001-09:17 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: General Assistance Questions (HE3t overkill)
MESSAGE: I stopped into Sears to look at the HE3t last night. It's just way too big for me. When even my big loads are on the "small" water level in the 1-18, the Hettie would be overkill.
I think I'm going dumpster diving at lunch hour today. There's a 1-18 in the Krusher truck at one of my frequent haunts...
-ph
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Post# 7985-11/1/2001-09:20 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: General Assistance Questions (HE3t overkill)
MESSAGE: Peter, I thought you were with us when we were at Sears during the convention when we say the HE3t?
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Post# 7986-11/1/2001-09:28 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Tacky Halloween Photos
MESSAGE: Why am I surprised to see an actual Jack o'Lantern and not a 3-ring agitator carved in the pumpkin?
-ph
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Post# 7987-11/1/2001-09:35 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: General Assistance Questions (lost 1-18)
MESSAGE: Just called the place and the Krusher truck just pulled out. An the 1-18 up in it was white in pretty good shape...
big sigh...
-ph
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Post# 7988-11/1/2001-09:45 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: General Assistance Questions (HE3t overkill)
MESSAGE: No, Bob, I wasn't there for that part. Geo, Rich, Gary and myself had to catch our planes. We were there at the MOA, but that's where we left you guys.
I'm trying to figure out how I can fit 4 50# machines into the 'mat, so I've been riding around looking at various other 'mats to get a feel for the machines. So while out looking at wash tubs, I decided to look at Sears. The HE3t is easily a 25# capacity machine. Anyone know the tub dimentions?
-ph
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Post# 7989-11/1/2001-09:49 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (smooth operator)
MESSAGE: Thank you for the points, Tom! In a previous life, I wrote the copy for Frigidaire ads...
-ph
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Post# 7990-11/1/2001-09:56 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Tacky Halloween Photos
MESSAGE: Robert, does he draw the features before carving? I liked the eyebrows. Please let Neal know. Thanks, Tom
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Post# 7991-11/1/2001-10:02 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: General Assistance Questions
MESSAGE: Anthony,
I don't know about your soap question, but I do know about FL's. I've got 2 FL's that most people would consider small (a Quietline combo and a 1984 Italian made Kenmore). The volume of each is about 1.7 cubic feet. Into one of these babies can go the same amount of clothing to fill my extra capacity Maytag A810, to wit, a set of queen sheets and about 5 days worth of t-shirts, shorts and socks. If you are washing for only yourself, I think the Miele 1918 would be an excellent machine. If you are washing for more than one or do laundry like Bob, then go for the HE3t. If you think you are somewhere in between, I think the Miele 1926 is a good compromise. I sure would *NOT* call the 1926 small (I'd call it expensive)!!!
-ph
LINK: http://www.miele.com/usa/laundry/washers/w1918a.html
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Post# 7992-11/1/2001-10:02 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: General Assistance Questions (HE3t overkill)
MESSAGE: Peter, why would it be overkill? Smaller loads would have room to tumble freely and the amount of water used is less than the Calypso uses; I think the complete cycle on the Duet/He3t uses less than 20 for large loads. Of course, you might want to wait for the combination unit that is available in the UK now and is being fine tuned for introduction over here in the not too distant future, according to our WP trainer.
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Post# 7993-11/1/2001-10:04 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (smooth operator)
MESSAGE: I was being modest, Bob...
-ph
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Post# 7994-11/1/2001-10:05 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: home page...gentle cycle
MESSAGE: On my laptop, it looks to me like a Pulsamatic...
-ph
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Post# 7995-11/1/2001-10:11 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: General Assistance Questions (HE3t overkill)
MESSAGE: Tom,
My guess is that with a small load and the frugal use of water, the clothes would not tumble and would stick more to the tub in a loose centrifugal pull. This happens in both my home machines and in a few of my lower water level Wascos at the 'mat. Like I said, it depends on your washing habits and your "average" load size.
-ph
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Post# 7996-11/1/2001-10:40 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: General Assistance Questions
MESSAGE: I suspect, TT, that you are probably right on that one. Interesting comment about the woolens/soap/lanolin issue. For a while I was able to purchase a product through the Vermont Country Store called "Lano Rinse". It was exactly what it said - a lanolin based rinse additive for woolens. Absolutely loved it- but the company that made it went out of business. So you have given me an idea. I wash most of my sweaters, and never thought of using my trusty Lux soap for that. I could grind up a bar or two... Unfortunately like Lifebuoy ( here I go again), Lever has also discontinued Lux bar soap here in the US. You can occasionally find packages of 10 bars in liquidator type stores. It has a different label and is from Lever Canada, but it is the same Lux. And I have stocked up, so why not make my washable woolens happy and treat them to a bath of Lux bubbles?? It was good enough for Lucille Ball and Mona Freeman......................
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Post# 7997-11/1/2001-10:42 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (Halloween)
MESSAGE: Well, TT, wouldn't it be a kick for us all to be able to see this book!! Too bad there isn't any way to get it scanned or something so we can all print copies. That would be great bedtime reading!!!!
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Post# 7998-11/1/2001-10:44 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: General Assistance Questions (HE3t overkill)
MESSAGE: Good luck at the dumpster today - I have yet to find any old Frigidaires at my haunts - If I see one more plastic GE Profile, I am going to scream
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Post# 7999-11/1/2001-10:45 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: General Assistance Questions (lost 1-18)
MESSAGE: Oh, no.......................... huge sigh...............