The following are archived forum messages from the original forum of automaticwasher.org referred to as Applianceville from May, 2001 to Sept 2004...
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Post# 8000-11/1/2001-10:49 ||| appliguy (Vienna Va.)
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RE: POD (Re. split Bath)
MESSAGE: In some of the houses in my neighborhood some of the bathrooms consists of one area with a sink and storage area for towels and another with the sink, commode, and tub/shower. I was told that this too is considered a split bath. I think Appnut was right when he said it was a design that originated in the 1960's as the houses here in Lakevale Estates were built between 1967 and 1969.
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Post# 8001-11/1/2001-10:58 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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RE: Our Tacky Halloween Photos
MESSAGE: I suggested that but Neal nixed that idea.
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Post# 8002-11/1/2001-10:58 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
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RE: General Assistance Questions
MESSAGE: Well, Peter, I do tend to do a lot of laundry, even with just me and my sister living here. And what we do is separate since she has incredibly sensitive skin and cannot tolerate any type of scented detergent no matter how many rinses. So we tend to do a lot of medium sized loads. Therefore the 1926 may be a good choice. While I am intrigued by the Duets/Ht3's and the "use them for a year" offer sounds tempting, I am still the world's worst skeptic about the first year of new anything. I love the idea of the Hetties, but I guess I have been reading too many "H3t issues" posts on THS. I still remember how I scoffed at my now "ex" when he got one of the first Frigemores in 1997. And I am perfectly willing to admit when I am wrong - well I was wrong about the washer, anyway!! Thanks for the assistance!
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Post# 8003-11/1/2001-10:58 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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RE: Our Tacky Halloween Photos
MESSAGE: Yes, he drew an outline with chalk first Tom, I let him know you like his pumpkin.
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Post# 8004-11/1/2001-11:18 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
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RE: General Assistance Questions (HE3t overkill)
MESSAGE: They can be too big?
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Post# 8005-11/1/2001-11:23 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
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RE: Frigidaire art work (Stretching the Truth)
MESSAGE: Is there a digital scan of this in a file somewhere? I know I can save it from the page, but if there is a higher res file Photoshop might be able to stretch it without loosing the sharpness.
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Post# 8006-11/1/2001-11:47 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
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RE: General Assistance Questions (HE3t overkill)
MESSAGE: John noticed that with the Quietline combo. It just tumbles too fast. I don't have that problem with either my Creda or my Miele, no matter what the load size in either wash or rinse. I had an Italian combo back in the mid 80s that tumbled so fast it was holding the clothes to the side of the drum as soon as it drained. It had a problem with a sliding clutch on the motor pulley that a friend who played with go cart engines diagnosed and fixed. I would not base the performance of the hettie on the two machines you have. The Sears Italian FL dates from the mid 80s and the Chinese combo is not far advanced from it. I do think a larger drum would help the rinsing and the full 800 rpm extractions between the baths should give better results than my Fls.
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Post# 8007-11/1/2001-12:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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RE: Frigidaire art work (Stretching the Truth)
MESSAGE: Hi Ed, I scan those pictures at 100dpi for the Picture of the day files, so what you can save from the page is at the highest resolution that I originally scanned it at.
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Post# 8008-11/1/2001-14:26 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
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RE: POD (Charcole Gary)
MESSAGE: Yes indeed, we call them Water Closet too, but most of the time say WC. Another word is plee (pronounced: play). I find the separation quite convenient although I would like a second toilet in the bathroom.....
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Post# 8009-11/1/2001-14:27 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
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RE: General Assistance Questions
MESSAGE: And I'd call it VERY expensive!!
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Post# 8010-11/1/2001-14:29 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
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RE: General Assistance Questions (HE3t overkill)
MESSAGE: I don't think there is a combo similar to the Duet/HE3t available in the UK. There is a combo, but it's a typical European sized machine.
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Post# 8011-11/1/2001-14:32 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
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RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (smooth operator)
MESSAGE: Peter, I missed in your ad: likes to get his arm in a washer regularly!
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Post# 8012-11/1/2001-15:30 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
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RE: POD (Re. split Bath)
MESSAGE: In many Victorina-era and early 20th century houses and flats in San Francisco, it's quite common for the toilet to occupy its own little room, and the sink and tub/shower to be in another, larger room, down the hall. This is said to reflect the typically Victorian state of denial that human bodily functions even occur. In practice it's a bit unsanitary as it makes washing up after such functions somewhat inconvenient. On the other hand, it does allow use of the toilet while the lady of the house spends hours primping.
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Post# 8013-11/1/2001-15:39 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
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RE: Blue Monday! (frigid rinsing - and washing for that matter)
MESSAGE: Don't know if it makes any difference, after all, blue is blue. And even bluing compounds vary in what they use for the tint. Mrs. Stewart's uses Ferric ferrous cyanate (an iron compound). I *think* LaFrance uses some sort of dye more like what is use to color fabric.
I took have wondered if throwing a relatively clean set of jeans in with the whites would lend some bluing to the whites. More ususally, I miss the white undergarment tucked into a pair of jeans. Depending on what else is being washed with the jeans, it could come out bright white or some shade of gray.
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Post# 8014-11/1/2001-15:50 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
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RE: Blue Monday! (confession time)
MESSAGE: Hi Anthony;
Oh NO! I hope they don't mess with it! I like it just the way it is. When will they ever learn leave a good product alone! I'll have to stock up! I hate this!
"Brooklyn Robert"
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Post# 8015-11/1/2001-15:58 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
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RE: POD (Charcole Gary)
MESSAGE: In Williamsburg, Brooklyn we have re-renovated cold water flats! Years ago it seems two apt.'s would share the same bathroom! Most bathroom here just have a toilet and shower, no sink in the bathroom very small space. Most of our washers are in the kitchen, you can cook, do laundry, stick a mop in the sink as the water is draining from the washer and wash the kitchen floor! (lol) A great time saver!
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Post# 8016-11/1/2001-16:01 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
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RE: Blue Monday! (Gain scent)
MESSAGE: Do you guys mean the new mild "gentle breeze" or somesuch Gain scent that's been out for a while? The liquid comes with a blue cap. If you close your eyes and take a whiff of this Gain, you'd think you are smelling Tide liquid.
-ph
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Post# 8017-11/1/2001-16:02 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
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RE: Blue Monday in 2 hours and 41 Minutes (YAY for Blue Monday)
MESSAGE: Yes, I felt that also! After what has happened here I was happy to see the parade in the Village and see the kids coming around for candy.
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Post# 8018-11/1/2001-16:04 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
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RE: Blue Monday! (Gain scent)
MESSAGE: I found it in Wal Mart today. I think I'll stick with good ol Tide or Wisk.
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Post# 8019-11/1/2001-16:04 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
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RE: Blue Monday! (Gain scent)
MESSAGE: I hope the keep the regular stuff, they ruin everything! From the design 2000 and now the "Gain"!
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Post# 8020-11/1/2001-16:14 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
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RE: Blue Monday! (Gain scent)
MESSAGE: I remember visiting the Village back in the '50's when I was just a kid - maybe 7 years old. My aunt and uncle had this tiny apartment right in the middle of it all. At the time they had this chair slung from ropes on the ceiling, which occasioned a lot of comment from my parents, none of which I understood. We kids all though having a swing in the livingroom was a great idea but my parents never got around to it ;-). The apartment had this tiny kitchen. It looked tiny to me even though I was pretty small as well. I bet it's even smaller today. We all slept on the floor somewhere. I got into the doghouse by letting the air out of my parent's air mattress early in the morning. They were still on it. Hehehehe.
My aunt says she moved out of the Village sometime in the 60's when she came home one day and literally could not get through the crowds to get into her own building. I last visited New York City in '74. I pleasantly surprised that I recognized her old building and doorway. It was just a single narrow door and I could see how it could be easily blocked off by gawking tourists.
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Post# 8021-11/1/2001-16:24 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
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RE: Blue Monday! (frigid rinsing - and washing for that matter)
MESSAGE: Ricardo - you can try it if you insist, but it is not something I would encourage. First of all, you cannot control the level of dye that will come out of the jeans. Second, what comes out tends to be a real heavy duty fabric dye that attaches itself to whites like a magnet. SO, instead of attaining that bright white with a hint of blue tint, you end up dyeing your whites a weird shade of medium blue. And it is nearly impossible to remove. As I have mentioned in other psots, I am not a chemist, so I cannot offer a technical analysis here, but I have seen it and it is not pretty.
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Post# 8022-11/1/2001-16:25 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
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RE: Blue Monday! (confession time)
MESSAGE: Yes, I am sad to report that at least on the Gain with Bleach powder and liquid, the packages are now marked in the upper left corner with something like "long lasting freshness" in both English and Spanish.... stock up now!
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Post# 8023-11/1/2001-16:28 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
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RE: POD (Charcole Gary)
MESSAGE: YES, how true. Aunt Nettie had a railroad flat on Maujer Street her bathroom was right in the kitchen. Funny though - she had a sink in her bathroom, but none of her friends in the neighborhood ( and they all lived in similarly set up flats) did. You had to wash up in the kitchen.......
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Post# 8024-11/1/2001-16:31 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
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RE: Blue Monday! (Gain scent)
MESSAGE: No Peter, that is different. I noticed this particularly with the Gain with Bleach powder and liquid. There is some new terminology like "long lasting freshness" on the front of the package but the scent is distinctly different from the previous incarnation of Gain with Bleach. I am surprised I saw this here - - usually we get everything last here. I must tell you, though, the enhanced fragrance was a bit too much for me - I gave almost an entire box to a neighbor..............
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Post# 8025-11/1/2001-16:33 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
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RE: Blue Monday! (Gain scent)
MESSAGE: I am starting to like those Surf tablets......... Also, I do like the scent of Cheer liquid with bleach alternative. A bit sudsy though................
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Post# 8026-11/1/2001-16:35 ||| trainguy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
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RE: Lady Kenmore Help (U R Rite On!)
MESSAGE: Robert - The word "SUDS" IS on the timer under 22 minutes by the larger printed word Pre-Soak. The unit itself has one hose into it and two hoses out of it. It does have a soleniod attached to it. I guess that's just some more fun I'll have with the restoration. I don't think this will convert me from a Frigidaire man, but as they say, variety is the spice of life. Rich
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Post# 8027-11/1/2001-16:37 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
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RE: POD (Charcole Gary)
MESSAGE: Yeah, railroad flat, that's what we had in San Francisco. One long narrow hallway from the front door all the way to the rooms in the back, with other doorways for other rooms hanging off of that. Halfway down was the WC room. Then a few doors down on the *other* side, the room with the sink and tub. Since I had two sisters, I never did get to spend much time in the "big" bathroom. I never knew it was possible to take a shower in the morning until I got my own place!
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Post# 8028-11/1/2001-17:11 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
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RE: General Assistance Questions (HE3t overkill)
MESSAGE: I agree withyou Ed, I don't think they could ever be too big.
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Post# 8029-11/1/2001-17:14 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
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RE: General Assistance Questions (HE3t overkill)
MESSAGE: Doubtin Tom, now you're starting to sound like Leslie and me.
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Post# 8030-11/1/2001-17:29 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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RE: Lady Kenmore Help (U R Rite On!)
MESSAGE: Hi Rich, that's definately a suds saver model then. By the way do you have a digital camera or a regular camera and access to a scanner? We would all love to see some pictures of your machines sometime. And what's the status with you're WCI-58? Did you get it running?
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Post# 8031-11/1/2001-18:02 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
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RE: Blue Monday! (frigid rinsing - and washing for that matter)
MESSAGE: My forgotten under garments usually come out more gray than bright white.
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Post# 8032-11/1/2001-18:08 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
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RE: Lady Kenmore Help (U R Rite On!)
MESSAGE: You could take pics with any camera and have them developed onto a CD, if you have a CD drive, and then post them from that too. We'd love to see some pics - and of the trains & box collections too.
I watched some of the boxes on Ebay after you joined the club - had no idea cardboard was worth that much! Who knew!!
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Post# 8033-11/1/2001-18:10 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
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Look at the pretty stove!
MESSAGE: Beautiful - love the simplicity of the design.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1480790143
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Post# 8034-11/1/2001-18:21 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
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RE: Blue Monday! (frigid rinsing - and washing for that matter)
MESSAGE: Not to boast, but I NEVER have forgotten undergarments.
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Post# 8035-11/1/2001-18:25 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
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RE: POD (Charcole Gary)
MESSAGE: Yes, that's it Anthony! Me and the "X" owned a 6 family on Lorimer St. that had no sinks in the bathroom just a shower and toilet. I shave with an electric razor the X use to shave in the shower. I never liked brushing my teeth in the kitchen sink, we had the double sink with the legs one deep side and the shallow side with the sliding drain board. Thank god I had a portable dishwasher (lol) The house I live in now has a huge bathroon 9x15, they say years ago on this street the bathrooms were out side and my bathroom may have been a small bedroom. I use to have the RCA Whirlpool in the bathroom here until I made it a nice home in the basement! I still have a hard time when I try to hook up thses new machines for the neighbors, especially with the plastic drain hoses, the older women here have a hard time adjusting to them. I bought 20 rubber ones on ebay I hope they last me a while.
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Post# 8036-11/1/2001-18:27 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
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RE: Blue Monday! (frigid rinsing - and washing for that matter)
MESSAGE: The boy sometimes pushes the socks and briefs down inside the legs of jeans - never know they are there until the washer stops. It happens...
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Post# 8037-11/1/2001-18:41 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
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RE: Blue Monday! (frigid rinsing - and washing for that matter)
MESSAGE: I have. Sometimes I went back for them, sometimes I just wrote them off...
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Post# 8038-11/1/2001-18:52 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
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RE: General Assistance Questions (HE3t overkill)
MESSAGE: Louis, I'm not sure what our WP service trainer was referring to, but he said the basic Duet/Hettie machine was already available in the European market as a combination. I figure it has to be someplace if they are trying to improve it before introducing it in the US. Maybe it's somewhere else and not in the UK? You would not believe how warm it is here tonight with a full moon and a gentle breeze that does not even feel cool it is so nice out. I think it is supposed to go into the 50s for a low and then low 70s tomorrow. Tom
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Post# 8039-11/1/2001-18:56 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
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RE: Blue Monday! (frigid rinsing - and washing for that matter)
MESSAGE: AND, it is possible that in the spin, the jeans will transfer a blot of color where they are squeezed against the white sheets--not pretty unless you are still into tie-dye.
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Post# 8040-11/1/2001-18:59 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
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RE: General Assistance Questions (HE3t overkill)
MESSAGE: What are you talking about?
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Post# 8041-11/1/2001-19:05 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
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RE: Blue Monday! (frigid rinsing - and washing for that matter)
MESSAGE: WoooWeee, this one was born hot and had a relapse.
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Post# 8042-11/1/2001-19:25 ||| trainguy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
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RE: Lady Kenmore Help (Almost There)
MESSAGE: I put the transmission from the '58 Unimatic together but forgot a spacer and it is not smooth enough in spin for me. I will probably never find another 6560902 switch. Mine works on HOT and SusdWater Saver, the WARM and COOL don't work. I guess I'm particular so I won't consider is done until I do find the switch.
We bought this new Gateway complete package in April, which came with a digital camera. I have never taken the camera out of the box. I will try to learn to be computer literate over the Winter.
I finally have the LK apart and will start restoration this weekend.
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Post# 8043-11/1/2001-19:40 ||| trainguy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
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RE: Lady Kenmore Help (I'll Try It)
MESSAGE: I do have a regular camera to take pictures. I guess a place like Kinko's would be able to put them onto a disc. I just have to figure out what to do next. And yes, it is amazing what Lionel boxes sell for. A collector had been bugging me for over 10 years to sell him one of my extra rare train set boxes. I told him to make me an offer I couldn't refuse. He sent me a check for $3,000 so guess what I did??!? BTW I still miss that box!
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Post# 8044-11/1/2001-19:51 ||| rapidry1000 (San Francisco)
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RE: POD (spamdamn)
MESSAGE: Where was this railroad flat in San Francisco?
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Post# 8045-11/1/2001-20:27 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
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RE: POD (Charcole Gary)
MESSAGE: I guess your railroad flats were slightly different than ours in Brooklyn. Ours did not have hallways connecting the rooms. The rooms were literallly set up one after another back to front. You entered the kitchen which included the bathroom. This was in the back of the building. Moving to the front of the building you crossed the threshold into the living room. Across the next threshold was the small bedroom (and I do mean small). Finally came the big front bedroom (that room and the kitchen were the only two that had windows....... So much for any privacy at all...................
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Post# 8046-11/1/2001-20:34 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
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RE: POD (Charcole Gary)
MESSAGE: Good find on the rubber hoses Robert. My mother also never liked the "crappy plastic hoses" on today's machines. Curious though, is everyone's machine in the basement? I can't imagine that the older women would go for that at all. In my youth, EVERYONE had their "machine" in the kitchen. And of course, the layout of the building meant that everyone's machine was in the same spot in every apartment on that side of the building .......
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Post# 8047-11/1/2001-20:46 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
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RE: POD (Charcole Gary)
MESSAGE: And I forgot the one critically important fact. Our apartment building had 10 apartments in it. The washer breakdown was as follows:
3- 1958 GE's with the pink tub and agitator top trim
1 - Norge Timeline
1 - Norge "Semi Automatic"
1 - 1960 Sears L.K. (the "pink lady"- -that was ours)
2 - Speed Queens - uncertain vintage, but the control panels were very beautifully and brightly lit
1 - garden variety Maytag
1 - Philco Bendix, probably 1961 - no specific model.
Perhaps someday I will do the next building where all my little friends lived - another 10 machines - oddly no Frigidaires........ didn't see them until I moved to CT in 1967.
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Post# 8048-11/1/2001-20:51 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
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RE: POD (Charcole Gary)
MESSAGE: I didn't know Norge made a semi-automatic. What was this machine like?
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Post# 8049-11/1/2001-21:02 ||| peteski50 (New York)
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RE: POD (Norge Semiautomatic)
MESSAGE: I knew someone who had 1. It had 3 buttons on the console.
the middle 1 was for Off. The left one was for Agitate and the right one was for Spin. You would open the fawcett to fill than
push the Adj button (1st turn off water) and wash as long as you like. Than you pres spin - Next rinse with water on for overflow. Than final spin. The nice part of this washer was you can spend as much time as you wanted for each phase. It was rather cool. I was made between 1950 - 1952 - I don't exactly know.
Peter
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Post# 8050-11/1/2001-21:03 ||| peteski50 (New York)
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RE: POD (Norge Semiautomatic)
MESSAGE: Also real nice for button Pushers!!
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Post# 8051-11/1/2001-21:15 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
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RE: POD (Norge Semiautomatic)
MESSAGE: The setup you described was the same as I remember, but I think it dated even later than 1950-1952. The console shape, cabinet, agitator and tub were identical to Aunt Jennie's 1956 Timeline. The only difference was that instead of the "Timeline" control, you had the three pushbuttons. That was a fun machine - you could wash or spin as long as you wanted, while the maximum wash on the timeline was probably only 8 minutes (I think). Actually,semiautomatic would have been a fairly popular model for apartment dwellers who might not have had permanent washer hookups.......
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Post# 8052-11/1/2001-21:16 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
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RE: POD (Charcole Gary)
MESSAGE: I could be wrong, but I think the term "Railroad Rooms" is one room afer another no hallway. They call an apartment here in Brooklyn that has a hallway "Boxed Rooms!"
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Post# 8053-11/1/2001-21:19 ||| peteski50 (New York)
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RE: POD (apartment dwellers)
MESSAGE: I grew up in a apartment house from the late 50's until the mid 70's. When I was little I remember a few people who had the rubber tub Bendix. I only knew 1 person who had the semi Norge and they didn't live their. The rubber bendi & the semi Norge were unique & economic buys.
Peter
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Post# 8054-11/1/2001-21:21 ||| peteski50 (New York)
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RE: POD (semi norgeq)
MESSAGE: I don't know exactly the years made the semi. But I think they stopped making them before the 50's were over.
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Post# 8055-11/1/2001-21:26 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
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RE: POD (apartment dwellers)
MESSAGE: I'll get to the rubber tub Bendixes (or is the plural Bendices?????) when I cover the apartment building next door.............
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Post# 8056-11/1/2001-21:28 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
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RE: Blue Monday! (frigid rinsing - and washing for that matter)
MESSAGE: Oh geez, a misunderstanding (I wish) LOL, it's just I sort my clothes as I take them off.
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Post# 8057-11/1/2001-21:30 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
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RE: General Assistance Questions (HE3t overkill)
MESSAGE: You actually had some nice things to say about these beasts, provided I didn't mis-read your post.
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Post# 8058-11/1/2001-21:30 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
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RE: POD (Charcole Gary)
MESSAGE: I repair/install washers for some of my neighbors and my family. That's what I meant about every hook-up in these buildings being different. Some drain into the kitchen sink others into the bathtub or toilet, for machine that are draining into the bathtub and toilet I always install a syphon break. When I had the 6 family I put coin machines in the basement for them to use they were Whirlpool's, 2 washers and 2 dryers, top load, two speed. I had my Whirlpool Mark II in the apartment upstais with me. My RCA Whirlpool was tucked away in a storage room down there, I still used it but I had to extend the hoses some. The building had six apts. and only had 8 people living in it, all were friends, we had a great time, for most of my friends they could care less about having a washer, they just don't get it! (lol) I'm sure god will forgive them! (lol)
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Post# 8059-11/1/2001-21:33 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
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RE: POD (semi norgeq)
MESSAGE: That would probably be right. I only saw one in my life and it was from 1955-1956. Actually, I saw very few Norge machines made after the 1950's. My guess is that Norge became very popular in the mid 1950's, and as Borg Warner struggled to keep up with the demand, quality control suffered. As a result, they started to produce some trouble prone machines. Potential customers drifted to other brands and Norge was sold to Fedders for a while in the 1960's and 1970's . I don't recall if there was another owner before Maytag, though....
I also think Borg Warner may have disposed of Norge because it wanted to focus on its other manufacturing and defense businesses - home appliances probably didn't fit in. Kind of like today's GE.
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Post# 8060-11/1/2001-21:36 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
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RE: POD (Charcole Gary)
MESSAGE: For those whose washer drains into the bathtub, don't they have to remove the shopping cart and pots&pans from the tub before they run a load of wash? I seem to remember that as an unusual phenomenon particular only to that neighborhood.................
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Post# 8061-11/1/2001-21:37 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
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I'm glad y'all are here
MESSAGE: The walls are closing in and I'm going stir crazy.
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Post# 8062-11/1/2001-21:38 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
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RE: POD (Norge Semiautomatic)
MESSAGE: Hi Peter;
Sounds like it works something like my grandmothers "Thor." I bought a lap top now so it's easy to get to the club! I also bought a digital camera, (YAY) now I won't have to bother Robert anymore! I just have to slow down and read the directions. I don't have a lot of time yet still working crazy long hours.
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Post# 8063-11/1/2001-21:39 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
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RE: I'm glad y'all are here
MESSAGE: Feeling that way m'self these days - - don't know why, though.
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Post# 8064-11/1/2001-21:41 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
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RE: I'm glad y'all are here
MESSAGE: Yeah, but Anthony, at leasst your going to work & conducting daily life. Me, nada. Just going to the Dr. A few people drop by to check on me. But that's it. It's getting old. I mean, I've been dealing with this since Oct. 5 in one manner or another.
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Post# 8065-11/1/2001-21:42 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
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RE: POD (Norge Semiautomatic)
MESSAGE: LOL! They still don't have washer hook-ups, you won't believe they way some people have to use their machines! I do get them hook-up thought.
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Post# 8066-11/1/2001-21:42 ||| peteski50 (New York)
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RE: POD (crazy hours)
MESSAGE: Robert,
Yes I am doing so much also. I am still using a borrowed laptop from work. I hope to be getting another computer soon. I guess the Norge did work like the Thor. I wonder if other manufactures made semi automatics?
Can anyone else comment.
Peter
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Post# 8067-11/1/2001-21:44 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Norge Semiautomatic)
MESSAGE: Well Robert, given that I've always been exposed to only single houses, I'd be fascinated and quite impressed to see your ingenuity of connecting these machines. My sister once owned a post WWII small house in Dallas that I know probably had the plumbing and 220 electrical for the dryer installed in the garage probably in the 1950s or later. Definitely not part of the initial arrangement.
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Post# 8068-11/1/2001-21:45 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Charcole Gary)
MESSAGE: That's only if the bathtub is in the kitchen! (lol)
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Post# 8069-11/1/2001-21:46 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (crazy hours)
MESSAGE: It wouldn't surprise me that Kenmore offered some sort of semi automatic at one time also. It's just a hunch I have.
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Post# 8070-11/1/2001-21:46 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm glad y'all are here
MESSAGE: I know your situation has been difficult. I have been housebound on occasion and it's no fun!!! I have actually been out of work for 6 months and no prospects so I am probably a bit discouraged about that. Things will be better for you though - after all, you have us!!!!!
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Post# 8071-11/1/2001-21:50 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm glad y'all are here
MESSAGE: Anthony, I as out of work for 18 months once. Computer industry consolidation. What's your work background/expertise?
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Post# 8072-11/1/2001-21:50 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (crazy hours)
MESSAGE: There were probably a few manufacturers who offered them. I suspect that it was a generational thing and part of a progression - you know, hand, front loaders, wringers, semi-automatics, and fully automatics......
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Post# 8073-11/1/2001-21:51 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm glad y'all are here
MESSAGE: Human resources director for PricewaterhouseCoopers (for the past 15 years)
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Post# 8074-11/1/2001-21:52 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (crazy hours)
MESSAGE: I vaguely remember that there was a Bendix that you manually had to turn the water on & off for each fill. There were markings on the door glass for water level. I believe Turbo has mentioned this or it may have been Jetcone.
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Post# 8075-11/1/2001-21:54 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Norge Semiautomatic)
MESSAGE: In some places here you can only use the washer, nothing else, some apts still use the screw in fuses! This is why I think they make coffee on the stove with a perk. You cannot run an electric coffee pot and the washer at the same time you have to allow for the refrigerator, it may want to start at some point. (lol)
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Post# 8076-11/1/2001-21:54 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm glad y'all are here
MESSAGE: Impressive & OUCH!!!! I completely understand. Me, I needed to stay in this small town (60,000) due to physical challenges, meaning it would be better for me here than going back to a city. That's how I ended up working at the hospital I work for.
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Post# 8077-11/1/2001-21:56 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Norge Semiautomatic)
MESSAGE: This is not mean to offend, but that arrangement reminds me of the way the electrical usage was controlled in the show Green Acres. Remember, could only use a combination of certain things in the kitchen or you killed the generator & fuses.
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Post# 8078-11/1/2001-21:58 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (crazy hours)
MESSAGE: They did for a short time I remember a small Kenmore portable around the 80's you had to fill. It would wash and spin by a timer but you had to fill it.
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Post# 8079-11/1/2001-22:03 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Doing your friends' laundry)
MESSAGE: Robert, do your friends supplement your utility expenses? I can imagine what your water bill must be like.
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Post# 8080-11/1/2001-22:04 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Norge Semiautomatic)
MESSAGE: Yes; "LISA" had to add up to "7", "OLIVER" made the board for her, I think they had a Maytag Combo, not sure! Don't worry about me I don't get offened! I work for the NYPD and live in Brooklyn, I've heard it all trust me! (lol)
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Post# 8081-11/1/2001-22:05 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Norge Semiautomatic)
MESSAGE: Yes, it was that Pepto Pink Maytag Combo alright! Could never figure out what brand of top loading dishwasher that was.
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Post# 8082-11/1/2001-22:12 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Doing your friends' laundry)
MESSAGE: That's the great thing of living in that neighborhood, I can well afford it. I'm not over my head in bills or rent. I don't mind the water or what ever. My friends help me also; one is a vet., I have two Doberman's they get free medical. One owns a pet food store I get free dogs food. One is my "X" lovers mother she is in an apt. and has had a stroke so she cannot wash anymore I don't mind, I like her she has always been nice to me. I feel what you do will come to you! I hope someone helps me when I get old. I don't know though if I would allow someone to wash for me or use my RCA Whirlpool (lol)
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Post# 8083-11/1/2001-22:14 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Norge Semiautomatic)
MESSAGE: I'm not sure but it looked like a top load General Electric to me, my aunt had one, that looked like that!
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Post# 8084-11/1/2001-22:15 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Doing your friends' laundry)
MESSAGE: It's funny you mention that. I often wonder what will happen to me when I get old too. Today, I had a friend from church come over and vacuume & dust for me. She was wanting to do everything. She asked about laundry but I told her that THAT was my dept. and nobody could touch that. I told her I was very picky and KNEW what I was doing.
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Post# 8085-11/1/2001-22:17 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Doing your friends' laundry)
MESSAGE: Besides, after doing 14 loads this week, I'm just about all caught up. Have a small load of white dress shirts that have sat in the hamper for months. Just can't justify doing them. I've not been this caught up in a long time. I'm running outta space in my closet for all my clothes.
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Post# 8086-11/1/2001-22:18 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Doing your friends' laundry)
MESSAGE: I've always felt this is why I have my RCA Whirlpool so long I take very good care of it!
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Post# 8087-11/1/2001-22:27 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Doing your friends' laundry)
MESSAGE: Well, If I had such a beautiful vintage machine, I'd probably baby it along too. But, my Lady keeps on trucking with the occasional abuse. I had 6 or 7 pair of sweats in her last night. I hhad to do a "DADoES" and add extra water on reset to make sure things were moving very well. Was trying to get all the garments that needed to be soaked in Biz from my incision drainage. Clorox 2 & Shout just wouldn't cut it. Amazing what an enzyme pre-soak will do.
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Post# 8088-11/1/2001-22:30 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Norge Semiautomatic)
MESSAGE: But Lisa did have some beautiful machines...
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Post# 8089-11/1/2001-22:32 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Norge Semiautomatic)
MESSAGE: Yup, that was the main reason why I watched the show. The appliances. Definitely weren't for the guys LOL.
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Post# 8090-11/1/2001-22:33 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Blue Monday! (frigid rinsing - and washing for that matter)
MESSAGE: Yeah, I guess that would happen if ...
YOU DON'T EVEN WEAR UNDERWEAR!!!
(OK, jest kiddin', LOL)
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Post# 8091-11/1/2001-22:37 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Blue Monday! (frigid rinsing - and washing for that matter)
MESSAGE: Been there, done that a few years ago, but not so often nowadays. Better to just be NIFOC. ;-)
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Post# 8092-11/1/2001-22:38 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (spamdamn)
MESSAGE: Stanyan Street, between Parnassus and Cole. I even remember the exact address, because back then I wanted my own room and I scouted around and found the rental for my mom. Not bad for a 13 year old!!! My reward, of course, is that I got the smallest and most depressing room (one small window that opened into a lifeless lightwell), but it was my own room. There was a laundromat a couple houses down the block that came in handy, since the kids (except for the very youngest) were all told to do their own laundry from there on... the one chore I refused to do was to clean out the grease trap in the back stairwell. Yeeech!
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Post# 8093-11/1/2001-22:39 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Blue Monday! (frigid rinsing - and washing for that matter)
MESSAGE: Hi Glenn, able to chat in the chat room?
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Post# 8094-11/1/2001-22:39 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Blue Monday! (frigid rinsing - and washing for that matter)
MESSAGE: I once tried going "commando" while riding a motorcycle. Not a good idea on a cool day, that's all I'll say!
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Post# 8095-11/1/2001-22:40 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (spamdamn)
MESSAGE: Rich, sounds interesting. But, as a 13-year old, it was very important to try and have your own room by then. Interesting, we're always gonna spy the laundromat where ever we are.
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Post# 8096-11/1/2001-22:41 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Blue Monday! (frigid rinsing - and washing for that matter)
MESSAGE: I shiver at the thought.
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Post# 8097-11/1/2001-22:42 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Charcole Gary)
MESSAGE: You guys are probably right about that, I don't know, I think my mom once called it a railroad flat so that's what stuck in mind. Maybe it was really a cable car flat :-)
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Post# 8098-11/1/2001-22:45 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Charcole Gary)
MESSAGE: applicable for your area LOL.
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Post# 8099-11/1/2001-22:46 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm glad y'all are here
MESSAGE: A couple of years ago I got a blood clot in my leg... potentially fatal condition... the leg swelled up so much it was all I could do to lay in bed with it elevated above my heart... could only walk or stand for less than a minute at a time... made bodily functions challenging as well... gradually, over three weeks, it got better so I was able to get back online... tough days, those were.
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Post# 8100-11/1/2001-22:52 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm glad y'all are here
MESSAGE: I really should be used to having to go through stuff like this, but it gets more difficult with age. I had a series of detached retinas for 4 months in summer of 1993. Was really restricted then. But, this is already getting to me.
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Post# 8101-11/1/2001-22:53 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Norge Semiautomatic)
MESSAGE: My last rental house before I bought this one was like that. It had screw in fuses. There laundry "room" was just a landing off the kitchen with a back door, just enough room for a washer. I squeezed a gas dryer into the kitchen between the stove and fridge. I couldn't run the washer, dryer, and the microwave at the same time, or it would blow a fuse. On top of that, the wiring in the neighborhood was unreliable and the power would go out whenever the wind got above about 30 mph. This place is much better - the former owner ran dedicated circuits on breakers to the laundry closet, ranges, garbage disposal, dishwahser, fridge, and the power only goes out when something major happens or the governor doesn't pay the bill ;-).
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Post# 8102-11/1/2001-22:56 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm glad y'all are here
MESSAGE: Well, try and remember what I said earlier... things often get much better shortly after they seem the worst... think of the things you do have and enjoy... life itself is a blessing no matter how unlikely that may appear at times.
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Post# 8103-11/1/2001-23:03 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
New DSL connection, WHEEEE!
MESSAGE: Got rid of the old unreliable DSL service (company went bankrupt but refused to relinquish the line) and got a new one. Much faster and more reliable (old one was going out five minutes, going on for a few minutes, and so on).
Sure is nice to be connected.
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Post# 8104-11/1/2001-23:23 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Charcole Gary)
MESSAGE: Those styles are called "Shotgun" houses here.
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Post# 8105-11/1/2001-23:28 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Charcole Gary)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg
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Post# 8106-11/1/2001-23:34 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Charcole Gary)
MESSAGE: This here house is a combination, probably like most. The living room, dining room, kitchen, and family room are all more or less interconnected, with no doors do shut them off from each other. I'd turn the family room into a guest room but it also functions as a hallway to get to the master bed/bath, and it and the kitchen are an open area. The living room and dining room are wide open and the work as hallways as well. Other than that, it's a great place!
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Post# 8107-11/1/2001-23:51 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (crazy hours)
MESSAGE: There were a number of models of the Bendix rubber-tub washers over the years and there usually was one model each year that was semi-automatic, billed the Dialamatic. I found a strange dial from a Whirlpool that looked like it may have been from a semi-auto machine, but have never traced the exact machine it went to.
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Post# 8108-11/1/2001-23:52 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (crazy hours)
MESSAGE: They had the Dialamatic in front loading style in the 40's too.
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Post# 8109-11/1/2001-00:02 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Charcole Gary)
MESSAGE: Hi Bob! Glad to hear you are feeling better - Skyler has been sick again, same stuff as last week. We were home today and I'm ready to get out of the house now. Should have been blowing leaves today, but played with the surround sound set-up in the living room too long and still don't have it done! Keep your chin up and get better, it will come quicker than you think!
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Post# 8110-11/1/2001-00:03 ||| rapidry1000 (San Francisco)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Old grease trap)
MESSAGE: Spambdamn
You're mentioning the old grease trap brings back memories. It was only a few years ago that my parents had the last of the grease traps removed from the service porch. That trap also served as the drain for my mother's 1951 Frigidaire WO-65 until my dad had the machine moved to the basement. That Stanyan Street flat which is near the University of California, San Francisco Hospital must be worth a mint in SF's high price real estate market.
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Post# 8111-11/1/2001-00:46 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm glad y'all are here
MESSAGE: Similar thing happened to me last spring - not the dangerous kind (the superficial kind) - but was still immobilized for almost 6 weeks. Was about all I could do to make the circuit - bathroom, washer, sofa. Spending your days with your legs up in the air isn't exactly fun.
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Post# 8112-11/1/2001-01:03 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Old grease trap)
MESSAGE: Yes, probably is. As I recall, the rent for that three-bedroom flat in '65 was $110/month. Now it would be more like $2500/month, I imagine.
The rollermatic of my youth was in another flat on Parnassus, even closer to the med center. We kind of rattled around in that area for a few years.
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Post# 8113-11/1/2001-01:12 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Grease Trap?)
MESSAGE: OK, I have to ask, what is a "Grease Trap?"
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Post# 8114-11/2/2001-03:00 ||| Bk1770 (quincy,ma)
SUBJECT:
frididaire washer/dryer
MESSAGE: I have been looking for a site like this for years. I did
not think there was anyone else out there who thought that
the vintage appliances were cool. I am looking fot a
frididaire jet action washer with rapiddry from the 60's.
My mom had a custom imperial model with all the bells and
whistles. It was a great machine. I used to watch it wash
any chance I could. I love the vintage machines as the
machines today are so boring. The old ones have style and
class. I notice from pictures that people seem to gather
round for events, I would like to know where and when.
Please..I hope someone can help me locate the appliance
listed above.
I will pay for whatever restoration is necessasry and
any shipping. Money not an issue, but please be fair.
thank you
Email brucesavery@hotmail.com
LINK: brucesavery@hotmail.com
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Post# 8115-11/2/2001-04:02 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Norge Semiautomatic)
MESSAGE: Yes, it was a Maytag combo in pink, of course - remember the episode where Lisa "dry cleaned" Olver's suits?
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Post# 8116-11/2/2001-04:04 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Doing your friends' laundry)
MESSAGE: I would do the same for my "EX's" mother - especially now that mine is gone..... BTW, there must be someone you trust to use the RCA WHirlpool..............
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Post# 8117-11/2/2001-04:08 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm glad y'all are here
MESSAGE: Very true - it is now when your friends will rally for you and prove themselves..........
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Post# 8118-11/2/2001-05:03 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Charcole Gary)
MESSAGE: Everyone made a semi Automatic washer in Australia in the 60's. Not that I was there of course ;) But Looking through old advertisments one can find even Orbital Kelvinator and Jet action Frigidaire semi auto's. One of these days I will post them (and learn to use a scanner).
I dont know how well they sold but I have seen lots of old semi auto Simpsons out for collection when its time for counicl clean up. I suppose they were much cheaper than a fully auto washer and you didnt need to handle the wet laundry.
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Post# 8119-11/2/2001-06:30 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Duet)
MESSAGE: Bob, I have been saying since we went to training that I was looking forward to getting one and was quite impressed with the machine. I stated that I was the one who asked the trainer if we could buy them when he was through with them. In fact, even before we went for training on them, I was thinking of having one. I am impresed with the size of the drum and the fact that after all the preliminary spins and balancing, it spins for 4 minutes at 1162rpm in a perforated drum on the normal heavy cycle. This could be a serious contender in the water extraction race.
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Post# 8120-11/2/2001-06:45 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Norge popularity)
MESSAGE: Consumer Reports rated Norge very highly in the mid 50s. I think it was the only brand for which they recommended the matching washer and dryer (Should you buy a matched set?). Unfortunately, Norge had a pot metal pump and not such a great seal in it. They tended to fail, especially with the rather caustic detergents of the day. It might have been that after buying one of these highly rated machines, people did not consider another Norge when it was time to replace it. Maybe. But with the size of that agitator in that solid tub, Norge sure moved those loads and washed clean. Norge styling was never quite what the big manufacturers' had either. The stoves, especially had a plainness that was readily noticed when they were on the floor with GEs and such.
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Post# 8121-11/2/2001-06:50 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (semi-automatics)
MESSAGE: The Bendix Dial-a-Mat was a semi and Sears offered them into the 60s. Bendix even offered a semi automatic version of their first automatic. It did not have a fill valve and came with a special hose that had an end that sort of fit into the soap trap. There was a water line on the glass to show you how full to fill it.
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Post# 8122-11/2/2001-06:58 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (shotgun houses)
MESSAGE: They are called that in the South also.
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Post# 8123-11/2/2001-07:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Lady Kenmore Help (Almost There)
MESSAGE: Hi Rich, a 6560902 WCI-58 Wash Water Temperature Switch, you'll never fine one? You just did, I have one!
Yes we would love to see some pictures of your machines, digital cameras are very easy to use, we can all help with instructions and advice if necessary.
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Post# 8124-11/2/2001-07:04 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Charcole Gary)
MESSAGE: Wow, that list is like a dream come true!
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Post# 8125-11/2/2001-07:05 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Norge Semiautomatic)
MESSAGE: The max wash time on my 1956 Timeline is 10 minutes.
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Post# 8126-11/2/2001-07:09 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Norge Semiautomatic)
MESSAGE: Congratulations Robert on your new computer and digital camera, now we want some more action shots of your machines YAY.
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Post# 8127-11/2/2001-07:18 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer
MESSAGE: BK, Welcome to the club. You are not that far from a master restorer in Melrose. We actually have a custom deluxe with the rapid dry in the warehouse that we could sell you if you have a way of moving it. Tom
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Post# 8128-11/2/2001-07:22 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Duet)
MESSAGE: Skyler and I went to the Mart yesterday and of course, no trip to the Mart is complete without a journey through the appliance department. We stopped to look at the Duets and were approached by a salesperson. He was very nice, easy on the eyes and was surprisingly knowlegeable (as others have not been on previous trips.) He was very obviously impressed with the technology, saying that WP had clearly pulled ahead of the pack with this machine and that when he had the opportunity to sell his Neptune, he would own one. The heater boost and fast spinning features were nearly too much for him, I thought he was going to pass out from excitement. He didn't seem too interested in the vintage machines I talked about, but he was clearly a washer nut. After a while, I had to move on as we would have sprialed into a frenzy and there would have been one in my van in the end. It's nice to have a "friend" in the appliance department that enjoys talking about washers.
We also saw the new panel design of the Frigidaire laundry line, very interesting, but I still only like the logo - machine is still the same old Franklin T/L.
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Post# 8129-11/2/2001-07:33 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Norge popularity)
MESSAGE: Yes, I remember that was quite a bit of action in that machine and the load moved vigorously. But what was a pot metal pump and how did it differ from other manufacturers' pumps??
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Post# 8130-11/2/2001-07:35 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Charcole Gary)
MESSAGE: Yes, it was an idyllic childhood! I can even recall the respective detergent selections! Of course at that time, people tended to be more brand loyal than now..........
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Post# 8131-11/2/2001-07:56 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (shotgun houses)
MESSAGE: Come to New Orleans. There's lots of shotgun houses down here.
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Post# 8132-11/2/2001-07:57 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: New DSL connection, WHEEEE!
MESSAGE: Wonderful Rich, I can't imagine life before DSL now that I have broadband too.
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Post# 8133-11/2/2001-07:58 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (crazy hours)
MESSAGE: Shoot a picture up of that dial when you can Greg, one of us will recognize it for sure.
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Post# 8134-11/2/2001-08:06 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Washer nut salesman)
MESSAGE: He's just part of that second-Golden-age of washer nuts that I keep talking of. I guess since I'm still young, but old enough to remember and have experienced some of the classics (60s-70s models). So I like both genres of washers. The classics and the new ones.
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Post# 8135-11/2/2001-08:06 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Washer nut salesman)
MESSAGE: He's just part of that second-Golden-age of washer nuts that I keep talking of. I guess since I'm still young, but old enough to remember and have experienced some of the classics (60s-70s models). So I like both genres of washers. The classics and the new ones.
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Post# 8136-11/2/2001-08:13 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
Oh my God, yuck
MESSAGE: I was surfing Ebay last night and found a pair of bottom-line Kenmores. Nothing really special about these except the fact that this was the kind of washer that replaced my grandmother's early 60s Kenmore in the 80s. I even cringe today when I see those kind of washers because of the horrible memory of seeing an old friend being carried out to the Krusher and this new fellow moving in. MURDERERS!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1290571168
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Post# 8137-11/2/2001-08:47 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer
MESSAGE: Hi Bruce and welcome to the club. We had our very first convention this year here in Minneapolis, about 35 of our members came in from all over the world. It was great fun. We are talking about doing the convention next year in Washington, DC, so stay tuned.
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Post# 8138-11/2/2001-09:07 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: New DSL connection, WHEEEE! (Broadband rules)
MESSAGE: I have @home cable access and it beats 56k modem any day. When I first moved into my trailer, I had to use a modem before my cable got hooked up. YICK! Talk about slow. I could have never downloaded any of the videos on this site, and I could never upload my videos.
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Post# 8139-11/2/2001-09:26 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Duet)
MESSAGE: So Greg, any chance that he could spiral on over to your place for a more directed washer frenzy? He would be like putty in your hands if you cranked up a few of the machines with visible washing action and had suds and water flying around. He could be Mr. Right for Washer Guy. You could find out what Jack thinks of him, too. Never, ever chose someone who is disliked by your dog or friends. They know better than you about these things or can at least see things a bit more clearly. Let us know and we can start getting reception favors ready as well as baked goods! TT
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Post# 8140-11/2/2001-09:29 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Norge popularity)
MESSAGE: You know, TT, I forgot that my mother preferred low sudsing detergents because she claimed that the high sudsing stuff would eventually damage the pump - any truth to that? Also, as a further note to my earlier post, I seem to remember that the Norge had quite a long stroke in their agitation........
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Post# 8141-11/2/2001-09:33 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Norge popularity)
MESSAGE: Anthony, before Maytag came out with the poly pump, some pumps were made of pot metal, a soft, easily cast metal that was not really durable and would corrode easily. Aluminum was another metal sometimes used in washers that was not really good against highly alkaline detergents either. That's why you had to take such good care of the aluminum tub in the Maytag Masters; if not rinsed and dried well, they corroded and got rough places that were not kind to clothes. Maybe the Norge pump was aluminum, but it sure made for lots of service calls.
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Post# 8142-11/2/2001-09:43 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Norge popularity)
MESSAGE: Anthony, some of the high sudsers were quite caustic. I remember when a friend got her Hotpoint in maybe 60 or 61, the man who brought it to her told her that if she used Tide in it it would be gone in no time. I think one of the things that might have mitigated this death sentence was giving clothes an extra rinse. It really reduced the alkalinity left behind. The people who worked on our machines always remarked how good they looked with no rust or corrosion and I have to believe that some of that was because of all the rinsing. Well, that and the fact that not many of them were that old when we got rid of them. Maybe the lower sudsing detergents did less to impede the draining and first spin and helped the rinsing effort that way, too.
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Post# 8143-11/2/2001-09:44 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Duet)
MESSAGE: I know Tom, but I was thinking all the way back to Sears in August. You did have some reservationos then--that's my basis. And I'm not sure on this, but you may have joined Uni in on the joke of moist towlette washing with such little water. But all in all, I'm thrilled with you enthusiasm for the machine. You are one tough customer to please (which is excellent) and when those standards can be met it's absolutely incredable. Like you, when I saw on the cycle diagram leslie sent me the 800 rpm spins between wash & rinses, I knew that would help with the rinsing despite the water usage. Of course, I would always select the extra rinse option.
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Post# 8144-11/2/2001-09:48 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
Frustrating plumbing
MESSAGE: OK folks, here is a problem I have been having, and since I am not a plumber, nor in any way mechanically inclined, am not likely to solve myself. Here goes:
My washer is on the main level of the house and empties into a standpipe behind it. As you know, Amana does the spin-drain thing, not neutral drain, and the standpipe is, I believe 1.5 inches. Next to the washer is a deep sink. Apparently, somewhere down the plumbing line, both join ultimately emptying into a 3 inch main pipe. Here is the problem. Whenever the washer drains, I experience immediate backup into the sink. Although the sink never fills, it is annoying. There are a few things I have noticed. First, I seem to get more backup and more "vigorous" backup on the wash drain than on any of the rinse drains. Second if the wash water happens to be particularly sudsy, some foam and/or water also bubbles up from the standpipe. Never enough to drip down the wall or anything, but again, annoying nonetheless. Once the machine finishes draining, the sink drains out immediately. Before the Amana, and from the time the renovation and this setup was instituted, we had a "plastic (new)GE", that did the neutral drain and I never seemed to have a problem. I have asked various plumbers and Roto Rooterers and have received conflicting and not very helpful answers. Here they are:
- From the plumber who did all the plumbing work during the renovation: "You have a clog somewhere down the line - and I don't do clogs. Call Roto Rooter".
- From one Roto Rooterer: "Your pipes are not vented properly, so there is a vacuum effect - and this causes the water to back up. You do not have a clog".
- Plumber #2: "There is nothing wrong - You get the backup because the water has someplace to go and water seeks its own level . If the sink were not there, your washer would just drain normally and you would never notice anything unusual".
Roto Rooterer #2: "You have a problem with your washer."
None of these sound quite right to me. So I know I am not losing my mind, what can this problem be? Could it be that the 1.5 inch pipe is not sufficient to accomodate the volume of water pumped by the Amana spin drain vs. the GE neutral drain? Any ideas????????? HELP...............
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Post# 8145-11/2/2001-09:50 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Duet)
MESSAGE: Yay - I love a ceremony.......... I will provide the cake.
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Post# 8146-11/2/2001-09:53 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Blue Monday! (Cheer liquid)
MESSAGE: You guys are on crack! Was there a party in Applianceville that I wasn't invited to? What are all these posts?!?!?!?
Just kinda an FYI on Cheer liquid. At the 'mat, I go thru the garbage every night and pull out apparently empty bottles of detergent. There's usually about 1/4 cup left in them, enough to use for mopping the floor. By far and away, the absolute worst detergent used for floor mopping is Cheer liquid. I don't know what P&P puts in the stuff, but the floors tend to look worse after mopping with Cheer than any other detergent, including the bargain basement brands of Sun and Extra..
-ph
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Post# 8147-11/2/2001-10:04 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Duet)
MESSAGE: You couldn't be more right. We're not always very observant when it comes to others. I had one that my friends hated and the dog chewed on at every opportunity. I didn't listen. I put up with it. Then one day he decided to show me the RIGHT way to do laundry. That's why god made many others...
You should invite him over for a load of towels. Soft lighting, salty cheese, wine... Then you can watch the Frigidaire. "Give you any ideas?" That should put him in the proper mood.
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Post# 8148-11/2/2001-10:05 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (screwed in)
MESSAGE: Hey, now, watch out. My house is still on plug fuses. My big window AC unit and refrigerator are on the same circuit, so I usually blow that fuse 3-4 times a year, and that's without using the toaster-oven.
-ph
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Post# 8149-11/2/2001-10:07 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Cycle Diagram)
MESSAGE: Has anyone scanned the cylce diagram? It would be very interesting to see.
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Post# 8150-11/2/2001-10:13 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frustrating plumbing
MESSAGE: Well, I don't know about the first ones, but plumber #2 and roto #2 are not very brilliant. Yes,water (like electricity) will take the path of least resistance. The problem with the explanation is that the water would have to travel UP to get into the sink. As for it being a washer problem - how could that possibly be.
Clearly something is keeping the water from going down the pipe and it's comming back up.
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Post# 8151-11/2/2001-10:17 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frustrating plumbing
MESSAGE: There is not a problem with the washer. Plumber nubmer 2 is almost correct. The 1 1/2in drain pipe is too small to carry away the water from the washer fast enough. To correct this you would have to replace the drain pipe with 2in pipe.
If the water backing up in the sink really bothers you, get a stopper to plug up the hole. The only problem with that is if the drain pipe does clog the water will be forced out the standpipe and on to the floor.
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Post# 8152-11/2/2001-10:20 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer
MESSAGE: Aren't we're all looking for a Rapidry? Welcome to the club! We're all collectors and restorers of these precious machines, so don't expect us to go retail with them easily!
-ph
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Post# 8153-11/2/2001-10:25 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Vintage Kelvinators)
MESSAGE: Oooooo, please do! I would LOVE to see pics of vintage Kelvinators, from the 1960's, perhaps there would be a pic of the one that my Granny had for a while.
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Post# 8154-11/2/2001-10:37 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (misperception clarified)
MESSAGE: I'm not really worried about the low amount of water for washing. My two FLs use low water levels for washing and clean very well. And if I have problems with rinsing of large loads, which I might just as I do with the Creda and Miele, I plan to throw the whole load in the KA or Maytag for a good deep rinse, just like I do now. I still think as we move to more expensive water and energy to heat it that these washers make a lot of sense. I am sorry if you took the jokes before I had seen any technical literature as my fully formed opinion.
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Post# 8155-11/2/2001-10:38 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: New DSL connection, WHEEEE! (Broadband rules)
MESSAGE: Hey, hey, hey!! I'm still on a 56K dial-up at home. I tried to get ISDN, SWBhell never returned my calls, nor did the "customer service representative" girlie return my emails that were sent directly to her, assuming she gave me her correct address. They're advertising DSL here now, but based on the above experience I'm kinda doubting they can come through with it.
(Of course, I'm on a LAN with a T3 at one of the office locations.)
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Post# 8156-11/2/2001-10:40 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Hetties and Duets)
MESSAGE: I would really, really like to have one, but it's very hard to justify what with the F&P only two years old and chugging along perfectly.
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Post# 8157-11/2/2001-10:45 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Hetties and Duets)
MESSAGE: Tom could correct that problem for you.
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Post# 8158-11/2/2001-10:46 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: New DSL connection, WHEEEE! (Broadband rules)
MESSAGE: Don't get me started on SWB. They still owe me for an outage from over a year ago. They keep promising a refund, but never do it. I send a form letter each month. They reply with a form letter saying they are taking care of it. It's no longer the $20 bucks - its the principle.
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Post# 8159-11/2/2001-10:48 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Grease Trap?)
MESSAGE: Well, I'm not sure if this is what everyone else calls it, but this trap was simply a raised cast iron box about six inches square, with a perforated grating. It was in the service room next to the kitchen. The service room had a door to the kitchen and an exterior door to a wooden stairwell. The sink drain would empty into the grease trap. I guess the point is that the grease would solidify in the trap so it wouldn't get into the drain. Those who used the sink also treated it like a garbage disposal, except of course the garbage just collected on the grating and it was extremely disgusting to remove.
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Post# 8160-11/2/2001-11:03 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Grease Trap?)
MESSAGE: My old house in Santa Fe had a grease trap, although I never knew it until it was full. What a sight to have everything that was supposed to go into the sewer collecting in the front yard. When the plumber came he found no grease. Just a bunch of lint and tree branches clogging the pipe.
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Post# 8161-11/2/2001-11:12 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (pot metal)
MESSAGE: Pot metal is an interesting term that unfortunately doesn't have an exact definition. Generally speaking, it's a cheap metal alloy, with a low melting point, which makes it easy to cast into complex shapes. It could contain lead, copper, zinc or other elements. Quality can vary widely, as pot metal doesn't have a standard of any sort. It is generally brittle, subject to corrosion, porous, and also can have the unfortunate characteristic of absorbing moisture and oxygen into its interior pores. This invasion can lead to oxidation and "blossoming" of the oxidation products (a white powder) and the piece can actually self destruct from the inside out. So its use in a water pump is a bit unfortunate. Lots of automotive ornamentation used to be made of pot metal; this has generally been replaced by various plastics today.
Aluminum is directly attacked by phosphates, so its use in washing machine tubs is also surprising, at least to me. I suppose the mfg thought only natural soaps would be used with it?
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Post# 8162-11/2/2001-11:35 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frustrating plumbing
MESSAGE: Anthony, it doesn't make a difference whether it spin drains or neutral drains, what matters is the volume of water coming out of the drain hose. Amana probably uses a stronger pump than the plastic GE, so the GE drains slower. I would definately agree with Jason's assesment, you need at least a 2" standpipe.
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Post# 8163-11/2/2001-11:39 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Very Interesting)
MESSAGE: I find it very interesting that most of us went for decades enjoying the fun of washing machines all without ever being lucky enough to find another human washer enthusiast. Yet for so many of us, not all of us, but the majority, Frigidaire was our favorite brand. Hmmm, very interesting.
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Post# 8164-11/2/2001-11:41 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Hetties and Duets)
MESSAGE: Your justification Glenn is that for our very special group, a washing machine is more than just a utilitarian device to do your laundry.
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Post# 8165-11/2/2001-11:42 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Robert,
I think thats because it was the most unique washer. It didn't just go back and fourth.
Peter
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Post# 8166-11/2/2001-11:42 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Grease Trap?)
MESSAGE: I never heard of that contraption before, I wonder if it was more common in the far west?
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Post# 8167-11/2/2001-11:49 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: I would agree with that Peter, as was the Kelvinator, but Frigidaire sold many more washers than Kelvinator so the Frigidaire drama is what so many of us remember.
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Post# 8168-11/2/2001-11:59 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frustrating plumbing
MESSAGE: I experience similar situations in my basement with all of the complicated plumbing. The Amana has a more powerful pump driven by the washer motor. The GE has a separately powered pump. The spin drain does produce more turbulence (suds) and it is the air in the sudsy water that makes it behave as it does because air takes up space in the pipes that would otherwise be used by the water. The wash water is generally warmer also. It is possible that there is too sharp a bend which makes for some restriction and a 1.5 inch drain pipe is cutting things pretty close for a washer. The venting could be a problem, depending on how far away from the washer the vent is. And a standpipe which joins a sink drain right next to it would back up into the sink if they shared a pipe. If they don't share the same pipe, but both empty into another one, the sink pipe will serve as a vent for the standpipe if there is no water in the sink above the drain plug to counter the air pressure rushing up which also leads to questions about the venting. Still, with the pipe itself displaying suds backup, it looks like the pipe is inadequate AND/OR the drop from the pipe to the larger pipe is not great enough or there is too tight a bend somewhere. You could maybe help the backing up out of the pipe itself by increasing the height of the pipe, but that is just gonna put more pressure on the sink.
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Post# 8169-11/2/2001-12:07 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Hetties and Duets)
MESSAGE: Yeah glen, and besides what law limits you to one washer?
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Post# 8170-11/2/2001-12:18 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (frigidaire )
MESSAGE: Yes I just love that Kelvinator - it was also so different, it's realy to bad they didn't make a 1/18 - that would have been awsome.
Peter
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Post# 8171-11/2/2001-13:42 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frustrating plumbing
MESSAGE: For the record - I know there is no problem with the washer - even I sworn non mechanic can see this. I kind of thought the 1.5 inch pipe was the issue. WIth the neutral drain plastic GE, you wouldn't have a problem since it pumped moe slowly. The Amana does pump more forcefully. Aha - you say, why didn't you notice this on the old GE tank that also did the spin drain? Because, that drain hose had the narrow metal gooseneck attached, which affected the water entering the standpipe.......
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Post# 8172-11/2/2001-13:49 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Very Interesting)
MESSAGE: I still find it amazing that there ARE other washer enthusiasts. I think the web certainly helps get people together. without it, finding each other is difficult. Somehow I knew that asking the football team from high school over to watch the washer wouldn't go over that well. (I guess you couldn't say afterward "I'm not really into washers, but I haven't had a table ssw to watch in weeks").
As for the frigidaire, well what could be more exciting. It's like the tv commercial where they had an other machine on half the screen (think it was a Kenmore) and a Frigidaire on the other (to show which moved clothes faster). Which side did you watch? Even the sound it made was exciting compared to the whine of other top loaders.
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Post# 8173-11/2/2001-13:57 ||| bk1770 (quincy,ma)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (fridgidaire washer)
MESSAGE: If possible please email a picture of this machine. Is it
in working order?. Is it rebuilt?
thanks for your help
bruce
brucesavery@hotmail.com
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Post# 8174-11/2/2001-14:45 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (washer sounds)
MESSAGE: I loved the sound Frigidaire made next to watching it. Even though it was loud - it was the sound of good (Great) washing.
Peter
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Post# 8175-11/2/2001-15:15 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm glad y'all are here
MESSAGE: Ed, I'm sure there are times having your legs up in the air is an advantage LOL WOOF!!
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Post# 8176-11/2/2001-15:23 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Cycle Diagram)
MESSAGE: Ed, I have the Kenmore version of the cycle charts. But I don't have a scanner. The Kenmore version offers more supplemental heater cycles than the WP version. Plus, Kenmore has the Stain Treat option, which WP doesn't have, another heater activation option for the Normal/Casual on up cycles.
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Post# 8177-11/2/2001-15:36 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frustrating plumbing
MESSAGE: Hi Anthony;
Your builder must be the same as the one who buit my parents house in Queens. They had the same problem. They are new houses. The stand pipe isn't tall enough, the water hits the bottom and bubbles and also into the plastic laundry tub. What I did was cap off the stand pipe and let the washer drain into the sink. It's the old fashioned but it will save your wall and floor. You can also attach one of those mess strainers to the end of the drain hose and catch all the lint from the so called self cleaning filter before it clogs the house trap. It also fun to watch, if it has strong pump you may have to secure it down . You'll feel like your back on Maujer Street again, in your aunts kitchen. I don't let any of my washers drain into a pipe, I rather see what going on and I like the sound. I just did my kitchen over and the contractor look at me like I was crazy when he asked me about the washer hook-up. I said throw two hot and cold valves under the sink and no stand pipe, he said are you going to drain the water out the windom? I said no into the that new drop in Kohler sink you just put in. (lol)
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Post# 8178-11/2/2001-15:48 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Doing your friends' laundry)
MESSAGE: I don't trust anyone, when they moved it from the other house to this one I watched the mover load it and unload it from the truck. I made sure they didn't slam it around too much! I keep it covered when I'm not using it. I got that from this area they always ahve a table cloth or something on their washers, you need the extra counter top space it provides!
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Post# 8179-11/2/2001-16:18 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Hetties and Duets)
MESSAGE: Yes, if circumstances would have permitted me, I'd already have had a Fridgemore, a F&P, and how a HE3t. And A KDS22, KDS25 dishwasher. A KA Superba Bottom Mount fridge with water dispenser in the fridge compartment. And an Advantium oven.
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Post# 8180-11/2/2001-16:21 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm glad y'all are here
MESSAGE: Well, er, that's true.... Unfortunately that wasn't one of them.
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Post# 8181-11/2/2001-16:22 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Hetties and Duets)
MESSAGE: Tom, it's not a law that limits Glenn & I to one washer, we're land-locked in our laundry rooms!!!!!
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Post# 8182-11/2/2001-16:24 ||| trainguy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer
MESSAGE: Tom, are you familiar with Universal Appliance Recycling, Inc. in Landover, MD?
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Post# 8183-11/2/2001-16:32 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Cycle Diagram)
MESSAGE: Hmmm... very interesting. So what does WP use the heater for? Just the sanitary cycle? I thought the WP would have the stain treat option. Kind of disappointing (I was already thinking of how to decorate around the blue control panel.
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Post# 8184-11/2/2001-16:35 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Very Interesting)
MESSAGE: Ed, two of my best friends from high school were stars from the football team. They did think it odd that I was always fascinated with their Mom's washers, dryers, & dishwashers. However, one of them thought I was a bit more cool when I helped diagnose what was wrong with one of his girlfriend's Mom's Speed Queen and told her dad how to fix it.
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Post# 8185-11/2/2001-16:37 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Very Interesting)
MESSAGE: That's one way to earn points...
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Post# 8186-11/2/2001-16:38 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer ((Frigidaire Multi-Matic))
MESSAGE: Hi Bruce,
Welcome to the club.
I've got a 1960 Frigidaire Custom Deluxe (WCD-60) in very good condition, and if you are interested I would consider selling it at a very reasonble price. Admittedly, it's not as exciting as a "Roller-Matic" Rapidry machine.
It's got the "Multimatic" mechanism, which spins at a bit of a slower speed. If interested I'll be happy to supply more information.
Ken (kennywhy@flash.net)
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Post# 8187-11/2/2001-16:39 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Cycle Diagram)
MESSAGE: Although I haven't seen a diagram chart for the Duet, I surmise from the elaborate brochure Laundromat2000 got me to order from WP, that the heater is only used for the Sanitary, Whitest Whites, and the Heavy Duty cycle does the "profile" heating of the stain treat option. For the Kenmore, when selecting Stain Treat option, the std. Hot water fill is changed to Warm and the heater then heats the water up to the hot temp of 127-130 degrees. But for Sanitary, that's 153 degrees. Unique to Kenmore also, Stain Treat is an option for the Normal/Casual cycle. That heats the water up to 120 degrees--thta's the cycle designated for Perm Press on the Kenmore, PP is designated for the Delicate cycle on the WP. These are the minor differences between the two machines. But, having more use of the supplemental heater in the kenmore is what get my attention.
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Post# 8188-11/2/2001-16:42 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frustrating plumbing
MESSAGE: Anthony, you can clamp a restricter into the end of the drainhose to solve this problem without hurting the machine. It just makes it take a while longer to drain.
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Post# 8189-11/2/2001-16:44 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Cycle Diagram)
MESSAGE: So the WP does have stain treat, just not on the Normal cycle?
Do I also understand that on both, the bleach dispenser only works on the whitest whites cycle?
Kind of a bummer as I'd wash whites at 153 with bleach if I could.
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Post# 8190-11/2/2001-16:45 ||| trainguy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
RE: Lady Kenmore Help (Almost There)
MESSAGE: Robert, I have been hunting for that switch for over 20 years. Most places had the regular 6560652 4 terminal switch, but no one stocked this 5 terminal switch. I guess the machines with the suds savers weren't really that necessary. Didn't Frigidaire supply an aluminum tube with a ball on a spring that fit into the end of the drain hose? Then after the spin was done, you just de-sprung(???) the ball, put the end of the drain hose into the tub, turned the machine on in agitate and the impeller pumped the water from the outer tub back into the wash tub. Or something like that.
I also ventured to take the digital camera out of its box and put the batteries in it. I may conquer it yet!
Thanks for finding the switch. If you are willing to part with it, please let me know. Thanks again. Rich
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Post# 8191-11/2/2001-16:50 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
It's laundry night YAY
MESSAGE: Tonight's the night.
It's gonna be alright
Cause I'm washing
ain't nobody gonna stop me now.
That's right, it's Friday night, the washer is full, and the Pizza's on its way. Time to party with Whirly WOOHOO! Shake it Whirly. Oh behave!
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Post# 8192-11/2/2001-16:51 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Cycle Diagram)
MESSAGE: Ed, I'm also trying to convey thata on the Kenmore version, when using warm wash on Whites or Heavy Duty, the heater will come on during the wash cycle to maintain the 104 degree temp set by the ATC, that's what the charts indicate too. I find this very important, especially during the winter time.
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Post# 8193-11/2/2001-16:55 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Cycle Diagram)
MESSAGE: Ed, on the WP, the Heavy Duty cycle is the only one that "equates" the stain treat option. No supp option for Normal Casual. Heater also supps on Whites. On the Kenmore, the bleach dispenser always dispenses during the first rinse, even on the whites cycle. (That's what's in print). I doubt I'd ever use Whites, Sanitary cycle is supposed to give same results as if one had used bleach. The cycles I'd use most would be Sanitary, Heavy Duty, and Normal/Casual. Express Wash some too. Normal/Casual has an initial spin of only 250 rpm and between the other rinses it's 600 rpm. The other cycles have it go to 800 rpm between washe & rinses. (I'm referring to the heavier duty cycles here).
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Post# 8194-11/2/2001-16:58 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: It's laundry night YAY
MESSAGE: Jason, you forgot to mention the tunes you were going to listen to tonight.
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Post# 8195-11/2/2001-17:14 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Ed, everything Frigidaire produced radiated General Motors and had elements of design that appealed to men. Reciprocating action, like in sex and pistons in cylinders was seen in steam engines and later in the internal combustion engine so it is not surprising that GM would choose something like this action and the powerful spin. It appealed to men and I think lots of men were in on the decision of which washer to buy in the early days of automatics when you could get a demonstration at the store. I don't think it is too out of line to suppose that the Frigidaire thinking was that this was a piece of machinery and even if it was a washing machine, machinery was a man's secialty so make a washer with power. Men could relate to that just like with their cars. After I got to see my first Frigidaire perform at a friend's house (a 57 control tower), it stayed in my mind through all the various fancy and not so fancy washers we had as some sort of benchmark for real power and that, I believe, is the thing that made Frigidaire washers catch male admiration. Tim the Toolman Taylor made it a joke, but "More Power" is a guy thing and you can see it today in admiration for the new computers with Pentium 4 chips and faster procesors. Tom
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Post# 8196-11/2/2001-17:18 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (fridgidaire washer)
MESSAGE: Bruce, it does work smoothly. John would go over it completely before selling it. I will see what I can do about getting a picture. We should be in the warehouse next weekend and I can get a picture or two and email them to you. Tom
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Post# 8197-11/2/2001-17:21 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Grease Trap?)
MESSAGE: No idea, but I think the whole concept sucked.
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Post# 8198-11/2/2001-17:25 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frustrating plumbing
MESSAGE: It would probably not hurt the drain pump one iota to throttle back the flow so that it doesn't overflow the standpipe.
I believe the standpipe for my Neptune is "only" 1.5 inches, but it never overflows. The drain pipe runs from the kitchen sink, to the washer, to the shower stall, to the bathtub, and then to the main line. Once the line clogged up between the shower stall and the bathtub and the Neptune's outflow caused a geyser in the shower stall. But the standpipe did not overflow, even then. Maybe I'm just lucky. Flo never had a problem, either, although the previous owners had wrapped the drain hose and standpipe together tightly with many layers of duct tape. I suppose maybe some suds would occasionally creep out.
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Post# 8199-11/2/2001-17:26 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Touche Tom. Spoken like a true Frigidaire statesman. (Grunt!!???)
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Post# 8200-11/2/2001-17:31 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (washer sounds)
MESSAGE: The sound of a Frigidaire was an integral part of the experience - like riding a Harley. The sounds was raw and powerfull. Not the sound of a regular agitator trying to swish away dirt. No, a sound that said it was going to smack dirt around and force it into submission.
And you could kind of dance to it.
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Post# 8201-11/2/2001-17:33 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Cycle Diagram)
MESSAGE: And the WP doesnt do that? That's really ashame.
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Post# 8202-11/2/2001-17:34 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Tom,
You may be right, at least initially, but by '59 GM/Frigidaire was pushing their entire appliance line as,
"...NOW... the most feminine appliances in the world!.... You'll walk in a new world of beauty and you'll feel like a queen every day of the year.... Today - and tomorrow - look to Frigidaire for the finest in quality home appliances - each one designed to make you feel like a queen while keeping his budget in mind!"
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Post# 8203-11/2/2001-17:35 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Cycle Diagram)
MESSAGE: The sales guy at sears told me that the bleach dispenser didn't work on the sanitary cycle - just the whites cycle.
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Post# 8204-11/2/2001-17:38 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Damn right!
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Post# 8205-11/2/2001-17:39 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
"Is that a banana in your pocket, or are you just happy to see... my Bendix?"
MESSAGE: It was in the late 50's. I was maybe five or six years old. I had a new pair of jeans and was running around all day in them. Somebody handed me a banana to eat, but I wasn't hungry, so I stuffed it in a pocket. Later on, I dutifully folded the jeans and put them away in the dresser drawer. The next time I checked them was about a week later, and the smell and the matted quality made me put them back into the drawer, quickly. A few more days passed, then finally when I was complaining that I didn't have any clean pants to wear, my mom asked me why I didn't wear the jeans. Oops! Well, I sheepishly pulled them out and said I was sorry, but the jeans were ruined. She took one look and laughed, and said don't worry. The next day I was amazed when she handed me the clean, dry jeans. Her secret, of course, was the Bendix in the basement.
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Post# 8206-11/2/2001-17:39 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: I suppose it's possible to build a sexy masculine machine, and have it still make you feel like a queen.
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Post# 8207-11/2/2001-17:52 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Only if you believe the following is sexy/masculine:
"... the already-lovely Sheer Look has taken on a regal new accent - a lovely, satiny Lacework Styling as pleasing to your eye as a fine piece of lace..."
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Post# 8208-11/2/2001-17:54 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Bob's wish list)
MESSAGE: Hi Bob!
Is that what you are asking Santa for this Christmas??? You better be a good boy!
Rich
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Post# 8209-11/2/2001-17:56 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Cycle Diagram)
MESSAGE: Ed, I can't say for sure. Only Tom or John would be able to address this since they were at training for the WP version and may have gotten the chart. But, I'm at least conveying what I do know from the Kenmore version. Frankly, Kenmore will have more features & options than the WP version to support their claims for "America's .....".
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Post# 8210-11/2/2001-17:58 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Cycle Diagram)
MESSAGE: Ed, nope, I'm sitting here looking at the charts. On sanitary cycle, the first rinse is referred to as bleach rinse.
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Post# 8211-11/2/2001-18:03 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frustrating plumbing
MESSAGE: My orginal standpipe and laundry tub drain lines merge into one before entering the line running 5 feet to a 4" house line. That stand pipe always backed up into the sink right next to it. My plumber said it was because the line wasn't big enough (1 1/2" - typical sink line) to handle all that water fast enough and there was no dedicated vent for that pipe. Waste systems need lots of air to function properly and since there was no vent for that line that was taking on a great deal of water in a very short time, it releived the pressure by backing up into the sink. I tried plugging the drain in the sink, but then the pressure backed it up all over the floor out of the standpipe. (don't try this at home!) With the 3" drain line running around the room into the floor drain, I had to clean the floor drain line to the main as it was gunky enough to be very slow. The Westy and the Maytag AMP run into the standpipe still and I just ignore the water in the sink.
When you replace the Amana with a f/l washer, the water pumped out will be a lot less, you probably won't have any back-up at all, or very little.
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Post# 8212-11/2/2001-18:10 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Bob's wish list)
MESSAGE: Rich, of course you know I'm always a good boy. I was simply stating that if I was still in my previous life with a nice income, I'd be changing out appliances with new ones with neat new stuff came out. Kinda like on THS when people have gotten Neppies and now they want Hetties or Fridgemores & now they want Hetties. On THS, people seem to buy appliances a lot over a span of a few years, getting the latest & greatest. But I'd love to have a kitchen big enough for two dishwashers. I mean it has to go with the fact that I have at least two of everything else utensil wise in my kitchen as well as those multiple sets of dishes.
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Post# 8213-11/2/2001-18:10 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: You know, Tom, I agree with that. Everything about the "pre-WCI Frigidaires" radiated power, forcefulness and solid construction. Even the slogan "built and backed by General Motors" reinforced that. There was lots of action - splashing water, loud repetitive and thumping noises, fast spinning (sounds like an episode of Miami Vice). Yes, this was the race car of washers.............
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Post# 8214-11/2/2001-18:15 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frustrating plumbing
MESSAGE: I think from the feedback, the issue is that the pipe isn't adequate for the Amana's pumping ability. On my old "Flo", which pumped very forcefully as you well know, this was never a problem because of the metal gooseneck at the end of the hose. This automatically restricted the volume of water hitting the standpipe at once. I guess no one uses these anymore - - no washer even comes with them. But it is a good idea to try and I am sure I can get one at a parts store. Beats replacing pipes for sure.............
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Post# 8215-11/2/2001-18:16 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Bob's wish list)
MESSAGE: Well, you KNOW what I wish Santa would bring me for Christmas LOL, but like you've told me, good close friends are pretty special unto themselves. I wish Santa would give me a laundry room big enough for 2 washers and one being a Hettie and another one being a vintage Frigidaire with 1000+ RPM spin and a cold rinse option.
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Post# 8216-11/2/2001-18:16 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (washer sounds)
MESSAGE: Submission, hmm.......... what's next, S&M laundry?????????????
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Post# 8217-11/2/2001-18:18 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Yes, Rich, but those pastel exteriors did not really disguise the untamed animals within............. Besides the pastels subconsciously appealed to our feminine side.
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Post# 8218-11/2/2001-18:19 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Bob's wish list)
MESSAGE: Or even a 1/18 for that matter. (Bob's marathon laundry mode LOL).
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Post# 8219-11/2/2001-18:20 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (washer sounds)
MESSAGE: Well Anthony, S&M laundry cood mean washing & ironing (Suds & Mangle (sp?) [the name of the electric rotoray ironer]
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Post# 8220-11/2/2001-18:23 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Yeah, but I still detest Pink to this day. My nightmare is that my vintage Frigidaire will end up being Mayfair Pink. (Watch it Uni, I see those devilish little horns rising on the back of your head, you too Greg!!!). Y'all are both thinking, we're gonna find Bob a pink unimatic LOL.
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Post# 8221-11/2/2001-18:26 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Bob's wish list)
MESSAGE: Yes, my Christmas wish list, if I were to have one would have to include one of those Frigidaires. If I could get my hands on one of the ones with the Rapidry or even a 1-18 (in poppy of course) I would be thrilled. And I would have to move the Amana out..........
My other desire would be a Miele W1926 or a Frigemore. Need that for nights I don't feel like TV but need something to watch!!!!
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Post# 8222-11/2/2001-18:27 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (washer sounds)
MESSAGE: Not quite what I meant, but probably more socially acceptable.................
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Post# 8223-11/2/2001-18:28 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Fine - I'll take the pink - while not my first choice, it is very acceptable. Why the aversion to pink??
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Post# 8224-11/2/2001-18:33 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (washer sounds)
MESSAGE: I knew exactly what you meant, but was trying to be punny.
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Post# 8225-11/2/2001-18:35 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: I don't perceive myself as having a feminine side. I try to come off pretty "normal" or butch. I've tried to avoid letting that side in. I don't feel really comfortable with it.
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Post# 8226-11/2/2001-18:37 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Remember, I'm just starting to try and deal with who/what I really am. Ahem, "bear" with me LOL.
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Post# 8227-11/2/2001-18:43 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (washer sounds)
MESSAGE: I knew that, but I had to do a bit of righteous indignation for dramatic effect. You should see my one man performance of "Imitation of Life" (starring Lana Turner and Juanita Moore)!! Not a dry eye in the house............ (hee, hee)
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Post# 8228-11/2/2001-18:48 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: well, no, i guess that's the queen part...
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Post# 8229-11/2/2001-18:48 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: We are all normal in our own way - who decides what's normal anyway? I hope you were not offended by my comment - and I certainly wasn't insinuating anything.............
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Post# 8230-11/2/2001-18:49 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Cycle Diagram)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the info. I'm still waiting to see a Duet in person. What I'd heard up till now was the that the only major difference was a few rpms...
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Post# 8231-11/2/2001-18:49 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Cycle Diagram)
MESSAGE: Yeah!
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Post# 8232-11/2/2001-18:51 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: "There was lots of action - splashing water, loud repetitive and thumping noises, fast spinning (sounds like an episode of Miami Vice)"
Or a porn flick.
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Post# 8233-11/2/2001-19:12 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Or a Jaques Cousteau TV special...
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Post# 8234-11/2/2001-19:15 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: I second this Bob, definately was not trying to offend.
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Post# 8235-11/2/2001-19:17 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Don;t worry, it gets easier and you will get comfortable with yourself. Took me a bit of time also. Of course, now I feel a story coming on................ WARNING - THIS STORY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH APPLIANCES SO PLEASE SKIP IT IF YOU ARE NOT INTERESTED...........
I remember when that orange juice woman went berserk and denounced "our kind" and did her bible thumping number everywhere she went. I even remember a Time Magazine story that showed her and her family praying at an altar in their living room (they must have had some great parties in THAT house!!!)
Well, one day she happened to be spouting her vile hatred on some talk show or other - going on about how we were "genetic mistakes", and of course mentioning God in every other phrase. My mother, an incredibly tough, outspoken lady who took no crap from anyone, challenged everything and was afraid of nothing, threw a can of spray starch at the TV and yelled some unprintable vulgarity ( I believe "Communist C--T!!" sounds right)"How dare she invoke God's name to spread her prejuduce, smut (OK , wrong word, but she was upset) and intolerance!!!!!! Everyone knows there is a reason for everything and God doesn't make mistakes"..... She went on for a while longer, but you get the idea. Of course little old late teen age me was in cardiac arrest by this time. Some years later, after I came out, and we laughed a bit about that incident, I asked her why she reacted as strongly she did. She told me that she couldn't abide some ignorant, horrible, no talent "Miss America wannabe" calling HER son a mistake, a pervert and a freak. Enough said....My hero!!!
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Post# 8236-11/2/2001-19:18 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Well, it's off to the tobacco store to pick up a couple of stogies, then meet the boys for poker, then back here for a few loads of wash.
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Post# 8237-11/2/2001-19:19 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: I wouldn't know.... (blush, blush)
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Post# 8238-11/2/2001-19:21 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: I should try this at my next poker night - cards, stogies and delicates!!!!
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Post# 8239-11/2/2001-19:23 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: That's a great story. My mother is still like that (although she would never throw a can of spray starch - that would mean getting close to an iron).
And, Bob, it does get easier. And remember, you've always got us (if that doesn't scare you off, nothing will).
BTW - true story - I did date a guy once (operative word - "once") that had an alter in his house. Needless to say, things didn't really work out...
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Post# 8240-11/2/2001-19:24 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: One of the reasons I want a Duet - the pedestals raise the action to table level.
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Post# 8241-11/2/2001-19:25 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: So did I, of course he had been a priest in a previous life..........that was a one date wonder also!!! I couldn't take the incense!
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Post# 8242-11/2/2001-19:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Maybe we'd think that if we HAD pink Unimatics already, but alas, we don't. If you find one and don't want it, you just call and I'll trade you the harvest gold appliance of your choice!
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Post# 8243-11/2/2001-19:27 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: How about playing at a "U" shaped table facing the Duets' windows???
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Post# 8244-11/2/2001-19:27 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Bob's wish list)
MESSAGE: If it's a rapidry or a 1-18, you may as well hook the drain hose over the side of your sink, pumps are pretty powerful on those machines.
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Post# 8245-11/2/2001-19:28 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Bob's wish list)
MESSAGE: For those machines, no sacrifice is too great!!!!
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Post# 8246-11/2/2001-19:33 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Bob's wish list)
MESSAGE: Exactly - even harvest gold!
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Post# 8247-11/2/2001-19:37 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Anthony, of course not, I wasn't offended.
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Post# 8248-11/2/2001-19:38 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Forget it Mister, if it's pink, I'm keepin' it, now if its avacado...
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Post# 8249-11/2/2001-19:40 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: I try to come off as "normal" too Bob, normally gay.
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Post# 8250-11/2/2001-19:42 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Ed, sounds like a great evening.
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Post# 8251-11/2/2001-19:45 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Thanks Ed, I'm glad I've got y'all. The convention was quite a catharsis, I believe that might be the right word for it, for me--trying to say affirmation. IT was a double cocoon--washer freaks & gays. I do hope I get to meet you in person some day given you aren't that far away--Texas contengent and all.
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Post# 8252-11/2/2001-19:48 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (washers on pedestals for worship and honor)
MESSAGE: Hetties have pedestals too. Just had a thought. We love doing laundry so much, we put our machines on pedestals. Robert, I envision you putting all your Unimatics on pedestals in the basement now. They belong on a raised position. They are the "crown" of the collection in my book--next comes the two combos.
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Post# 8253-11/2/2001-19:52 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Classic Appliances Live Chat
MESSAGE: If you guys refresh your home page you'll see I've added a link to the Classic Appliances Live Chat Room that Glenn (DaDoes) was kind enough to set up for us on his server. I tested it and it seems to work perfectly, just another way for all of us to keep in touch.
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Post# 8254-11/2/2001-19:52 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Avocado is my Greg's harvest gold. But, I gotta admit, Frigidaire did have some attractive shades of avocado, especially the rapid drys before the 1/18s.
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Post# 8255-11/2/2001-19:53 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Yes I know, but me personally, I can't do it. I have to exist in such a straight world.
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Post# 8256-11/2/2001-19:55 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Classic Appliances Live Chat
MESSAGE: I've got it on my favorites. Yes, Glenn, Spambdamn, Scott, & I had quite a conversation last night. Just like the old yahoo days of IM.
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Post# 8257-11/2/2001-19:55 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Don't worry about that Bob, you will in time. The Bendix wasn't built in a day!
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Post# 8258-11/2/2001-19:56 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Here's my unsolicited "spin" on this masculine/feminine Frigidaire discussion:
Frigidaire went a bit overboard in 1957...the laundry line looked more like cars than cars did. The control towers, the introduction of the dark colors, and the general lines of the machines took it to the limit. They were appealing to the men, but I think this really turned the women off. The 57 line wasn't one of their most popular lines and that radical design was only for that year. Although we in this club all love that 57 design, many women thought if the washer just had wheels it could pass for a go-cart. In 1958 they were back to much more tradional look and were pushing soft pastels. Their 58 and 59 advertising definetly targeted women (and some men) by promising a Frigidaire would make them feel like a queen and was safe to use to bathe their finest lingerie .
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Post# 8259-11/2/2001-19:57 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Bob's wish list)
MESSAGE: They are?? I guess mine really needs to be replaced.
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Post# 8260-11/2/2001-19:57 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Robert, thanks for the encouragement. That's why I'm glad y'all are here. You know I've got a long way to go. Max says he's been very pleased with as far as I've come too.
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Post# 8261-11/2/2001-19:58 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Classic Appliances Live Chat
MESSAGE: I'm glad its getting used then. We probably should think about scheduling a weekday evening chat.
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Post# 8262-11/2/2001-19:59 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Rich!!!!!!
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Post# 8263-11/2/2001-20:00 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Classic Appliances Live Chat
MESSAGE: Yeah, I look several times during the evening. With me being shut in an all, it's an outlet for me.
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Post# 8264-11/2/2001-20:21 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (washers on pedestals for worship and honor)
MESSAGE: Oh Behave
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Post# 8265-11/2/2001-21:31 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (washers on pedestals for worship and honor)
MESSAGE: You may have to slap me mister to make me behave!LOL
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Post# 8266-11/2/2001-22:20 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: New DSL connection, WHEEEE! (Broadband rules)
MESSAGE: LOL, try getting thousands of $$$ in refunds out of 'em, for billing skrew-ups.
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Post# 8267-11/2/2001-22:22 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Hetties and Duets)
MESSAGE: I know, I know . . . but . . . . .
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Post# 8268-11/2/2001-22:23 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Hetties and Duets)
MESSAGE: Available space is more of a stumbling block on that than is law of man or nature.
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Post# 8269-11/2/2001-23:13 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Hetties and Duets)
MESSAGE: That's what I told him Glenn. We're land-locked in laundry machine arrangements.
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Post# 8270-11/2/2001-23:18 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frustrating plumbing
MESSAGE: I would be careful if you are going to try to restrict the water especially if it's that plastic drain hose. It may crack it's not very durable. I've had to replace a few here for my neighbors that just cracked under noramal use. Especially right where they are attached on the back of the washer. I say let it drain in the sink, less problems and try a lint trap you will be surprised what it catches.
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Post# 8271-11/2/2001-23:46 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frustrating plumbing
MESSAGE: Good point. I wonder how difficult it would be to locate a more sturdy black rubber drain hose, and replace the cheesy plastic drain hose with that. Heck, Home Depot and Orchard Supply Hardware probably have something that would do just fine.
My statement that the washer would not be damaged from throttling back the output of the drain pump was because in many cases, water pumps will tolerate a moderate restriction on their output. They don't like to have their intakes restricted, though, as that can cause cavitation and damage.
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Post# 8272-11/2/2001-01:01 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Bob's wish list)
MESSAGE: When I rebuilt the pump on the rollermatic (non-rapidry) the pump force increased a couple of times over. Is there a stepped spin on the one you have? The 1-18 starts spinning in low speed and then switches to high after a couple of minutes - the pump force is pretty high, but by then most, if not all of the water has been pumped out already.
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Post# 8273-11/3/2001-02:02 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: It's laundry night YAY (tunes)
MESSAGE: Tonight I had Millenium Funk Party cranked up. Whirly was shakin' its groove thing to Brick House, Superfly, Play That Funky Music, and lots of other classic funk.
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Post# 8274-11/3/2001-02:05 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Yep, it was. Got cigar ash all over my pants, lost my shirt, then came home to wash both.
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Post# 8275-11/3/2001-02:08 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Absolutely. Hopefully we'll meet soon.
It's interesting that even in gay circles washer freaks are viewed as rather weird. Oh well.
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Post# 8276-11/3/2001-07:30 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frustrating plumbing
MESSAGE: They aren't hard at all to find. In most hardware stores you can buy the 1" and the 1/2" black rubber for around $.50 a foot. The problem I have here is with metal hook. It won't fit over some of the sinks that have a countertop. I sometimes add an additional little piece of hose to the end that goes in the sink to make it fit, but I don't like the way that looks. The rubber hose with the goose neck are much better, I found 20 of them on ebay and bought evryone I could get my hands on. If I install a washer that is connected to the faucet for the water supply I tape the drain and the fill hose together so it will not slide, I don't use a any hook, it also safe for people who for get to put the drain hose in the sink, you cannot connect the fill hose without the drain, I told you I have to be very creative here.
Whirlpool & Kenmore must always have a 1" drain hose especially the ones that have a timer. They only allow so much time for the neutral drain and will spin right after that, if the hose is kinked or restricted it will act like it has a suds lock and spin slow. It's funny however that my electronic ones know! They know how nuch water there is and adjust the neutral drain. I watched it and noticed that each time I had different level of water it would adjust the amount time for the neutral drain. It knows from the water level switch.
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Post# 8277-11/3/2001-08:45 ||| trainguy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Best wishes to all of you who are going 'shopping' today. I just got a call from the used appliance place. They got a Frigidaire washer in, however it sounds like an Horizon 2000 model. They also were describing a like new Whirlpool washer they think is from the '60s. Can I tell the year from the model number? I will be leaving around 2:00 today to see them. Wish me luck.
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Post# 8278-11/3/2001-09:52 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Bob's wish list)
MESSAGE: It starts out in low, then the high speed roller kicks in, then the motor shifts into high speed. Every time it shifts all pumping stops for a few seconds. I think what I will have to do is replace the drain pump with an electric one.
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Post# 8279-11/3/2001-11:01 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: If you lost your shirt, how were you able to wash it? LOL. I know, my puns are unbearable. But, lost shirt has pleasant images (hehe)
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Post# 8280-11/3/2001-11:03 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Yeah I know, but my friends Max & Kirk have accepted my interest in appliances quite well. I won't repeat a question Max asked me after the convention here--I'll have to email it too ya--it was unbearably funny but tied in with my on trepidations.
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Post# 8281-11/3/2001-11:05 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: ok, ok, i lied - i actually won $1.25 - yippie. Unfortunately, that wasn'f easy to work with, pun wise.
Sheesh - can't get anything past this crowd. :)
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Post# 8282-11/3/2001-11:05 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Bestest of luck trainguy. Who knows, maybe there will be other surprises too!!!
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Post# 8283-11/3/2001-11:07 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: I know, I'm a tough customer. Ya gotta watch out for me, especially on a good day.
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Post# 8284-11/3/2001-11:08 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: At least you didn't have to worry about cab fair with that $1.25
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Post# 8285-11/3/2001-11:10 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Gotta watch out for that hot cigar ash on pants too. Could be a real ouch. Talk about a case of hot pants and smoldering loins LOL
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Post# 8286-11/3/2001-11:26 ||| trainguy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Appnut - You have a great sense of humor. My boss is still the funniest man alive, though. He told us our raise next year will be around 2% because of the economy. The CEO's bonus will be reduced as well. He got $1.5M this year and will probably only get around $1.25M next year. Poor man.
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Post# 8287-11/3/2001-11:33 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Thanks Rich. Golittlesport(also a Rich) is my biggest fan though when it comes to my sense of humor. Incidentally, there's a new club member, that doesn't have a profile yet but has been emailing me, that is looking for a Myg D806 dryer--if you ever think about getting rid of one of them. He has an 806 washer and is looking for a mate. Bob
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Post# 8288-11/3/2001-11:50 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frustrating plumbing (Electronic Whirlpool Drain)
MESSAGE: As I recall from a service manual, the first Whirlpool model "timed" the drain as double the time for water level reset, plus 30 seconds.
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Post# 8289-11/3/2001-11:51 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frustrating plumbing (Electronic Whirlpool Drain)
MESSAGE: The F&P kinda does the same thing -- uses the pressure switch to determine drain time.
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Post# 8290-11/3/2001-12:03 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Should we start a collection for the CEO? Wouldn't want him to have to cut back to much...................
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Post# 8291-11/3/2001-13:10 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Universal Appliance Recyclers)
MESSAGE: I did not realize that they were in Landover, MD, but I have seen a store of theirs in Bladensburg which may or may not still be there. They had a pretty sleazy reputation a while back when they just called themselves Universal and sold and serviced used appliances. I do not know anything about this latest incarnation. Tom
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Post# 8292-11/3/2001-13:26 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Yeah and I'll tell you something. 59 was the ugliest line of appliances to date that Frigidaire had with all of that dark blue and silver filagree. The fact that they had to stress that their appliances were feminine tells you that they had trouble appealing to women. The control towers were their poorest selling year to date because of the styling, one reasonthey are hard to find. Even in 60 the stoves were dogs, but by 61 the styling was getting better. My 61 CI range is a beauty, but was the last year for the belt driven indicators for the surface units on the Custom Imperial & Imperial ranges.
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Post# 8293-11/3/2001-13:44 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frustrating plumbing (Throttling back the discharge)
MESSAGE: I would go into the machine and put a good old fashion washer drain hose of the kind we call black rubber and put the metal gooseneck in it. Norges had the optional restricter for their discharge because it pumped out too fast for many drains.
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Post# 8294-11/3/2001-13:48 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frustrating plumbing
MESSAGE: When WP began making the large cap machines, they lengthened the drain to 4 minutes of just sitting there. The portable washers also had the 4 minute drain because of the smaller diameter drain hose that went with the unicouple
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Post# 8295-11/3/2001-13:51 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
Tomturbomatic
MESSAGE: Is there a chance you'd email me an email address associated with your new home setup--I promise I won't share with anyone.
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Post# 8296-11/3/2001-15:00 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frustrating plumbing (Throttling back the discharge)
MESSAGE: And my old GE "tank" had the long metal gooseneck at the end of the hose which effectively did the same thing.....
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Post# 8297-11/3/2001-16:06 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frustrating plumbing
MESSAGE: Yes, that is correct. I had one of those portables in my first studio apartment. It was cute like washing in a 5lb. coffee can. They use the same fill/drain piece for the dishwashers. My RCA whirlpool has a shorter neutral drain period then the belt driven extra large cap. machine.
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Post# 8298-11/3/2001-16:16 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frustrating plumbing (Throttling back the discharge)
MESSAGE: I had to leave the plastic hose on the frigmore it's all one piece from the pump right thru the back of the machine, I felt if I replaced it it would kink where it turns from the back of the machine against the wall. This is the worst one I've seem yet it looks like on of those flex drinking straws you got in school with your milk! For those of you that have this machine you that it uses no water anyway. (lol)
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Post# 8299-11/3/2001-16:39 ||| trainguy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
There's Another Lady In My House!
MESSAGE: I just got back from the used appliance store. The Frigidaire washer was indeed a newer model. The Whirlpool washer was in great shape. It is model #LRA8800W1. Can anyone help with the age or any advice? No buttons, but it had a really neat lighted dial.
However, I did come home with another Lady (Kenmore, that is). It is model #110.7204903 and has a vari-flex agitator, and best of all, I plugged it in and it works! Can I get any info on this one? It is white, and there is NO rust under her (yes, I turned her over and looked up in). Again, any help is greatly appreciated.
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Post# 8300-11/3/2001-16:40 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: There's Another Lady In My House!
MESSAGE: Rich, how many buttons does this Vari-Flex LK have? Does it have a flip down console cover?
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Post# 8301-11/3/2001-16:42 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Or bathing the new puppy - I speak from experience.
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Post# 8302-11/3/2001-16:45 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Well I'd have to agree that the "satiny Lacework Styling" is perhaps the most ridiculous decorative idea that hit home appliances. All it did was probably make the front of the fridges and ranges more difficult to clean. The drawings in the sales brochure can't quite cover up how hokey the lacework looks. The diswasher was spared such excess; I think Uni would be pleased to own the one pictured in the brochure - it's shocking pink. And the french oven doors on the ranges look intriguing. The "Pull 'N Clean Oven" also looks interesting. The entire inner oven shell could be removed for cleaning.
An interesting product, that has been mentioned here before, was the "fold-back surface units" for electric cooktops. They used only 4 1/2" of depth when folded up. No doubt a great space saver for efficiency kitchens, but I wonder if such an idea would be possible today, what with liability concerns.
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Post# 8303-11/3/2001-16:51 ||| trainguy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Marvelous? Maytag)
MESSAGE: Bob, My 2 DE806s are different. The one that matches my washer is the one with bar baffles. The older one has the wire baffles. A corner of the glass in this one is cracked. Ask your friend to measure the height of the thin piece of metal directly above the dial that separates the two pieces of glass. The older dryer's measurement is 7/8" and the later one's is only 3/4". I liked these models because the washer had a light in the tub, and the dryer had a lighted drum. I never knew Maytag lighted anything. Let me know. Rich
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Post# 8304-11/3/2001-17:10 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Marvelous? Maytag)
MESSAGE: You may still be able to get that panel glass through Maycor/Maytag. You'd be surprised how much they still stock for the "older" machines. I was still able to order the rubber filter ring/seal for the old style SS barrel filters just a month ago.
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Post# 8305-11/3/2001-17:13 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Heck, even bathing an older dog can still get you the same splashy results. I think my clothes have more water in them than his coat does by the end of the endeavor.
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Post# 8306-11/3/2001-17:22 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: you wear clothes while bathing the dog? You probably also wear clothes while painting the house.
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Post# 8307-11/3/2001-17:33 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: To tlel ya the truth, it's more fun "the other way" LOL. I couldn't do it outside, my backyard slopes and my house is visible from the houses behind. No privacy. LOL
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Post# 8308-11/3/2001-17:34 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
gansky1
MESSAGE: Check your email
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Post# 8309-11/3/2001-17:42 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: There's Another Lady In My House!
MESSAGE: Hi Rich, congratulations on your new Lady Kenmore, its a 1972 model. How about some digital pictures, many of us here in the club will be able to give you a lot more info about the machine with a visual.
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Post# 8310-11/3/2001-17:45 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Truthfully, Ed, initially I didn't wanna shock everyone, but I forgot, many already know I'm NIFCO much of the time, especially when it's warmer.
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Post# 8311-11/3/2001-17:47 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
Classic Frigidaire
MESSAGE: I wonder if Electrolux has ever thought about releasing a limited edition 1-18 (or earlier models). I think they still stack up pretty darn well against current top loaders.
Maybe they could update it a bit. Maybe a different color jet cone? Perhaps the ability to change the cone for a different color - like the Titan's drums. Perhaps some "theme" models, like a Harley model (like the Harley F150) - black cone with a crome cap. Or for the Changing Rooms fans, the Laurence Llewelyn Bowen model with a designer purple cone.
Seriously though, it seems like the American market is once again open to new ideas about washing machines. Admittedly this is an old idea, but then, so is the front loader, er, excuse me, horizontal-axis washing machine.
LINK: http://www.monotub.com/abouttitan1.html
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Post# 8312-11/3/2001-17:49 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: NIFCO? Hate to sound naive (but, then, I don't get to often), but...
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Post# 8313-11/3/2001-18:05 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Classic Frigidaire
MESSAGE: Ed, we've discussed this a time or two before. There had been a rumor that Electrolux was considereing using a concept similar to the pulsating technology to compete against the Calapso (excuse me Calypso), but no substantiation of the rumor. Yes, we'd all love to see pulsating come back but given today's water conscious environment, we doubt it. Still would be one helluva washer. Some of us wonder whatever happened to all the tooling when GM sold to WCI. Still a mournful day in washerville.
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Post# 8314-11/3/2001-18:09 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Classic Frigidaire
MESSAGE: Either Peteski50 or SteveD, among others, was fed a "line" by some salesmen that the new Frigidaires would have improvements that would include upping the spin speed to 1000 rpm (I'm talking about when WCI bought Frigidare). Then they all went to the appliance stores to see the new models, that looked on the outside liike the real thing, then horrors!!! I think Uni still gets the vapors when he thinks about that day. BTW, chestermikeuk has ordered a Titan. It hasn't come in yet. We had a contest to tell him what optional drum color to select. The orange wass the most suggested. As to whether he'll order the orange, dont' know until we see pics.
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Post# 8315-11/3/2001-18:17 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
For the way you wash
MESSAGE: Here's a pic for y'all, courtesy of HQTS...
-ph
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/vwp?.dir=/Yahoo!+Photo+Album&.src=ph&.dnm=For+the+way+you+wash.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/lst%3f%26.dir=/Yahoo!%2bPhoto%2bAlbum%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 8316-11/3/2001-18:18 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frustrating plumbing (Throttling back the discharge)
MESSAGE: We have access to the goosenecks. Let me know if you want one.
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Post# 8317-11/3/2001-18:19 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
My first SQ
MESSAGE: Today, after taking the last dead KM for Krushing, I found my first SQ. It agitates and spins, is a little clunky, a little rusty, a looa worn -- but it's a start...
-ph
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/vwp?.dir=/Yahoo!+Photo+Album&.dnm=My+First+Speed+Queen.jpg&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/vwp%3f.dir=/Yahoo!%2bPhoto%2bAlbum%26.dnm=For%2bthe%2bway%2byou%2bwash.jpg%26.src=ph
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Post# 8318-11/3/2001-18:20 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frustrating plumbing (Throttling back the discharge)
MESSAGE: Sorry, my proposal was for Anthony who has the drain problem.
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Post# 8319-11/3/2001-18:25 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: My first SQ
MESSAGE: Peter, a huge congrats. She's an absolute beaut. Must be close to TOL or TOL, one of the last solid tubs I gather. Many happy overflow rinsing loads to you!!!!! when you get her totally ship shape.
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Post# 8320-11/3/2001-18:26 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: My 61 has the pull and clean ovens. I can tell you one thing about them; they are very poorly insulated. We have one of the double fold back surface unit pieces. When John bought it at a thrift store and was carrying it out, he was told that was the baddest boom box ever. There are disconnects in the unit that disables the surface units unless they are in the down position. A scarier thought is that Dixie made fold up surface burners in gas.
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Post# 8321-11/3/2001-18:29 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Fascinatin' Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: You ain't whistlin' Dixie on that one. Scarier yet would be whistlin' gas!!!! Don't strike me for this one, it could explode.
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Post# 8322-11/3/2001-18:34 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: frididaire washer/dryer (Marvelous? Maytag)
MESSAGE: Train Guy, Maytag lighted the TOL washers and dryers up to the changeover to the Montgomery Wards looking things when they moved the dials out of the center of the control panels. All those old TOL helical drive machines from the 50s had a tub light. I have a TOL dryer from before the Halo of Heat and it has a nice drum light, a dial light and a switchable fluorescent panel light. Maytag even went so far as to put colored plastic sleeves on the control panel fluorescent tubes so that if you had a pink washer, the light would make the glass pink when the tube was lit.
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Post# 8323-11/3/2001-18:37 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frustrating plumbing (Throttling back the discharge)
MESSAGE: I accept - are you down on bended knee??? (hee, hee)
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Post# 8324-11/3/2001-18:38 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Classic Frigidaire
MESSAGE: WF, the thing is it would not meet the DOE energy guidelines that go into effect in a few years. And they do not have the equipment to make them. WCI did not get the factories in the deal. That was why everything went to hell so fast.
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Post# 8325-11/3/2001-18:41 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frustrating plumbing (Throttling back the discharge)
MESSAGE: The gooseneck is what's bent.
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Post# 8326-11/3/2001-18:52 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frustrating plumbing (Throttling back the discharge)
MESSAGE: Hmmm, are you bragging or complaining? (hehe)
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Post# 8327-11/3/2001-19:03 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: For the way you wash
MESSAGE: Yep, with those pink pants...
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Post# 8328-11/3/2001-19:08 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: For the way you wash
MESSAGE: I can't tell for sure, but if the plaids or polka-dots are tops, they'd be a nice ensemble with the pink pants. Looks like a book from the 60s or 70s.
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Post# 8329-11/3/2001-19:09 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: For the way you wash
MESSAGE: OMG, congratulations Peter, what a wonderful find. Can't wait to hear more about this machine.
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Post# 8330-11/3/2001-19:10 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: For the way you wash
MESSAGE: Ok, I give.
Either that's a very good job in photoshop or the book is legit. Assuming legit, what did they mean? I've heard of diversity training, but that's a bit much.
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Post# 8331-11/3/2001-19:10 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: We'll nothing grand at the sales today, but Gary did get very cool sign and I found a few things...
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/estatesale6/lst?&.dir=/Estate+Sale+Saturday+Nov+3+2001&.src=ph&.begin=9999&.view=t&.order=&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/estatesale6/lst%3f%26.dir=/Estate%2bSale%2bSaturday%2bNov%2b3%2b2001%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 8332-11/3/2001-19:11 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: For the way you wash
MESSAGE: Hey, I just looked at the washer--tht's a model I could go for--5 water temps & 4-speed select!!!
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Post# 8333-11/3/2001-19:11 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: For the way you wash
MESSAGE: I suppoose it could be photoshop - the two "o"s don't look quite the same size.
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Post# 8334-11/3/2001-19:13 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: For the way you wash
MESSAGE: How can you tell about the water temps?
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Post# 8335-11/3/2001-19:14 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Classic Frigidaire
MESSAGE: It's a thought. Sigh.. Of course, most toploaders don't meet the guidelines comming up either.
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Post# 8336-11/3/2001-19:14 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: My first SQ
MESSAGE: Oh I forgot to ask Peter, is that a standard or large capacity solid basket Speed Queen? By the way love the book, I must find a copy of THAT!
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Post# 8337-11/3/2001-19:38 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: For the way you wash
MESSAGE: Ed, because that's one of the EARLY series Maytags when they changed the control panel to that "Montgomery Ward" look (as TT said). the White buttons came first. With the 4-speed combo model, back then, there were the 5-water temp combos too. That column of buttons is behind the booklet. I saw the matched set for sle at our church "garage" sale about 2 years ago.
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Post# 8338-11/3/2001-19:43 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Uni, loved the Fall colors the most. That 62 dryer looked in quite good shape, especially the drum. And the classic pastel yellow, blue, & pink cycle colors. MMMMM MMMM! That "weight reduction" machine, the house with the two LK combos next door had one of those for YEARS. My Mom even brought it over to our house for a while. And the purse on the Maytags, ugh, my Mom had one just like that. And on that 70s Kenmore, it may have a filter, but too bad, like on my 70s LK portable, that filter shot straight down. No waterfall. How droll.
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Post# 8339-11/3/2001-19:56 ||| trainguy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
RE: There's Another Lady In My House!
MESSAGE: This newer one has the same 14 buttons and flip down cover as my other LK (model 110.73490110) has. The timer knob is a little different and this one does not have a sudswater saver.
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Post# 8340-11/3/2001-20:02 ||| trainguy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
RE: There's Another Lady In My House!
MESSAGE: I have the digital camera working. I'm reading the instructions now on how to hook it up and go from there. Hopefully within this next week I'll have it mastered.
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Post# 8341-11/3/2001-20:04 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
RE: Classic Frigidaire (classic rumor)
MESSAGE: Would someone please slap the person or persons who start these rumors.
They really could do a pulsator washer with a spin-spray rinse. But would even that meet new conservations standards?
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Post# 8342-11/3/2001-20:09 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Classic Frigidaire (classic rumor)
MESSAGE: Ken, don't put me in the splapping line. I'm just remembering discussion(s) quite a while ago about this same subject.
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Post# 8343-11/3/2001-20:11 ||| trainguy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
RE: My first SQ
MESSAGE: Congratulations on your new addition! It's a great find.
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Post# 8344-11/3/2001-20:16 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Oh and Robert, it's nice to see the 7-up clock working and so nicely done. The added value is that since I've been in your house, I can envision the whole surroundings. I like that.
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Post# 8345-11/3/2001-20:19 ||| Kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
RE: Classic Frigidaire (not you Bob)
MESSAGE: I was joking (sort of). Kind of a Three Stooges slap scene was what I had in mind.
It wasn't you who started the rumor. I believe it first came up in postings early this year.
Peace to all. It was a wonderful rumor anyway.
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Post# 8346-11/3/2001-20:53 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
Another Saturday Night.............................
MESSAGE: "Hello, friends, I'm your Vitameatavegamin girl". Guess what's on TV-Land tonight?????? Well, here we are again. Saturday night, catching up on the laundry. Two loads of sheets that will go out on the line tomorrow morning, some towels and some pretty awful white gym clothes. Actually I am using the Surf tablets I finally managed to find - even in hot, softened water, almost no suds. Yes, just me, the Amanas, low lights and a big cold Dr.Pepper. Right now there is a nice heavy load of jeans and cooks aprons with buckles in the dryer. Sounds like I am drying Ann Miller................
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Post# 8347-11/3/2001-21:10 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Another Saturday Night.............................
MESSAGE: Anthony I sent you an email. Wanna get on appliance chat?
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Post# 8348-11/3/2001-21:12 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: My first SQ (size doesn't matter)
MESSAGE: Robert, I'm going to assume it's the larger capacity machine. How does one tell for sure?
-ph
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Post# 8349-11/3/2001-21:15 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (it was a very good year)
MESSAGE: That's the same '62 KM dryer I have. Was there some special drum covering or paint or finish in 1962 that kept the drums looking so nice? The drum in mine is perfect, and it looks like this one is too. I take it that the ozone bulb was not working...
-ph
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Post# 8350-11/3/2001-21:21 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: For the way you wash (A810 control panel)
MESSAGE: Here you go... This pic and the one following...
-ph
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/vwp?.dir=/Yahoo!+Photo+Album&.src=ph&.dnm=The+A810.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/lst%3f%26.dir=/Yahoo!%2bPhoto%2bAlbum%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 8351-11/3/2001-21:24 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (GE Fridge)
MESSAGE: My grandpa has a GE fridge like that in the estate sale. It works perfect but it needs paint and a door seal. We keep the Cokes in the drawer under the freezer and they're ICE COLD.
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Post# 8352-11/3/2001-21:25 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: My first SQ (size doesn't matter)
MESSAGE: Peter, my hunch is it's the largere cap machine.
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Post# 8353-11/3/2001-21:32 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
Peter chat
MESSAGE: Peter, sorry, my computer locked up when you got in chat room. Had to reboot. I'm there if you wanna join me again.
Bob
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Post# 8354-11/3/2001-21:35 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: For the way you wash (A810 control panel)
MESSAGE: I knew I was right. As Louis would say, Bob it's amazing how you remember control panels!!
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Post# 8355-11/3/2001-21:41 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming
MESSAGE: Last Friday night may be Whirly's last wash. Next Friday, I will be eating pizza but no music will be playing. Sir Frigmore will be singing his spin song and I want to hear it all. WOOHOO!
Anyway, a local mom & pop appliance store has a NEW Frigidaire '849 for sale at $500. It has ATC, buzzer on/off, and normal/fast spin switch. I think this is the new model and if so, it's a steal.
I didn't buy him yet, but I will monday morning and he will come home. hehe.. I cut my grass today and I have a nice grass-stained white shirt and blue jeans for his first job.
Poor Whirly. I'll make sure he gets a good home.
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Post# 8356-11/3/2001-21:46 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (1962 Kenmore Dryer)
MESSAGE: It looks to be the match to the washer one of my aunts had, with the pregnant Rotoswirl and cartridge lint filter.
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Post# 8357-11/3/2001-21:49 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming
MESSAGE: Congrats!!!! I'm sure you will love the machine!!!
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Post# 8358-11/3/2001-21:49 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: My first SQ
MESSAGE: How cool! Would you like to make this a TOL machine? I have the control panel (it has a light!) and parts for this machine that I stripped from the one I had. Yours doesn't look as rough as mine did - and the porcelain looks great!
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Post# 8359-11/3/2001-21:49 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming
MESSAGE: How did you handle the issue of the floor stability of the trailer?
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Post# 8360-11/3/2001-21:51 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming
MESSAGE: Of course, congrats are in order!! And the price sounds fantastic!!!!!!!!!!
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Post# 8361-11/3/2001-21:52 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (Plywood and 2x4's)
MESSAGE: I'm going to add some supporting 2x4's under the washer and a 3/4" sheet of plywood for the washer to sit on. Should be good like that. I'm going to make sure that place has a return policy on the washer before I actually order it in case it really doesn't work with the floor. I don't expect a problem with it.
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Post# 8362-11/3/2001-21:56 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (Plywood and 2x4's)
MESSAGE: Actually I do remember a previous post about this . Sorry to make you repeat!!!
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Post# 8363-11/3/2001-22:04 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming
MESSAGE: If it's got both ATC and the buzzer switch it's the new model I do believe. Great price.
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Post# 8364-11/3/2001-22:22 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (Detergent and Frigmore water level tweak.)
MESSAGE: I can't wait to get it. Ok, so now I'm going to have to get some HE Detergent. Suggestions? Which cleans better/ less suds? So much for my new box of Mountain Spring Tide.
Steve 1-18, if you would be so kind. How do you tweak the Frigmore to fill with more water? Is this a good thing to do? Thanks for any help.
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Post# 8365-11/3/2001-22:43 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (Detergent and Frigmore water level tweak.)
MESSAGE: Give Tide HE powder a try.
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Post# 8366-11/3/2001-22:45 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
Maytag washer question
MESSAGE: My mom's 1990 Maytag washer (orbital I think) is making a scraping sound while agitating (scrape, scrape, scrape) and also during the spin. The "scrapes" seem to happen with every revolution of the basket. Does this sound like a bearing problem or transmission? Either way, it's a major repair.
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Post# 8367-11/3/2001-23:14 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: There's Another Lady In My House!
MESSAGE: Yay, thanks Rich, if you need help posting your picts onto the internet just let us know and we can guide you though it.
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Post# 8368-11/3/2001-23:14 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (Detergent and Frigmore water level tweak.)
MESSAGE: I've had excellent results with Wisk HE and the Wisk Tablets. However most here seem to like the Tide HE powder which I have not tried.
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Post# 8369-11/3/2001-23:17 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: My first SQ (size doesn't matter)
MESSAGE: We'll good question Peter. Do you remember the standard size Speed Queen coin ops of our childhood? Those were the standard capacity machines, if this looks deeper its the large capacity size.
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Post# 8370-11/3/2001-23:18 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (it was a very good year)
MESSAGE: I suspect it just wasn't used very hard.
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Post# 8371-11/3/2001-23:33 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: My first SQ
MESSAGE: Peter, congratulations on that lovely machine. It looks to me like it's the large capacity machine. Don't you just love it?! Welcome to the SQ club!
Eddy
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Post# 8372-11/3/2001-00:03 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: My first SQ
MESSAGE: Ooo Ooo Ooo! I also have the panel from the 77-78 TOL line model with the soak timer and "flotation rinse" indicator light and floro. panel light. It also was a metered fill model, so it would work with yours as well, may have to replace the air dome from yours though as it would be calibrated for large capacity and the one I had was standard size.
You could have both panels and I'll clean out the garage a little more! Here's pics of the green parts donor...
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/thesheerlook/vwp?.dir=/SQ+Parts+Donor&.src=ph&.dnm=Part+Donor+for+%2764+A49.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/thesheerlook/lst%3f%26.dir=/SQ%2bParts%2bDonor%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 8373-11/3/2001-00:08 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: My first SQ
MESSAGE: Here is the panel from the '79 TOL like your design - black panel w/light.
Notice how the rust on yours doesn't seem quite as bad when you compare it to the one I had!
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Post# 8374-11/3/2001-00:09 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: My first SQ
MESSAGE: Oops, a harvest gold moment there...
Here's the link!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Speed+Queen&.src=ph&.dnm=79+Speed+Queen+-+work+begins.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Speed%2bQueen%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 8375-11/3/2001-00:18 ||| Lenny (Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT:
RE: My first SQ (McGraw Edison's SQ arc-q-matic GEM)
MESSAGE: ph:
Hi! I was so surprised to see your Speed Queen because it was the EXACT McGraw Edison Speed Queen we had from 1981 to 1992 with the exception that mine had the stainless tub while your model appears white. That was indeed the larger capacity machine that had the deeper vanes on the base of the agitator. That machine was a workhorse and had the most wonderful broad agitation stroke of any machine I can remember. That SQ utilized the original 'arc-Q-matic' tranny with the 210 degree stroke (commercial grade). Because we had that unit for quite awhile - and the new 'direct-drive' Kenmores came out, I decided to scrap the SQ for capacity sake. That SQ never died after all those years of use and abuse. You have a real Queen for sure there, Im so sure you will totally enjoy her! Good Luck with the restoration!
Lenny
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Post# 8376-11/3/2001-00:31 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: My first SQ (size doesn't matter)
MESSAGE: FA6610 was an extra-capacity - use high sudsing detergent in this machine so you'll experience suds lock, doesn't take much.
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Post# 8377-11/3/2001-00:39 ||| Lenny (Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (HE's work best for me 'n Neppy)
MESSAGE: Hi Jason:
Having bought the touchscreen electronic Maytag Neptune last February (Wow almost a year ago!), I have experimented a bit with some detergents. I also must agree with most here that the HE detergents will be your best bet in general. Unfortunately, as a rule, they are a bit more expensive. I've found 1) Tide HE, 2) Wisk HE and 3) Wisk tablets to work most efficently in my Neppy for me. Also, on occasion, Ive used powedered Fresh Rain All with good results and relatively low sudsing. As Im sure you already know, you have to prevent oversudsing in any f/l to both prevent overflow and 'buffering' /reduction in tumble washing action. But experiment in your particular model/water conditions. Thats part of the fun...Good luck with the new FridGEMore!
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Post# 8378-11/3/2001-00:49 ||| Lenny (Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT:
Electronic 90's Maytag?
MESSAGE: Does anyone remember the 'electronic touch pad' TOL Maytag top loading washer that was out probably in the early 90's or so? I definitely remember seeing that unit in the stores and thinking it was awsome way back then. It was in the same time zone when Maytag was using the ugly brown control panel with the plain square white pushbuttons arranged vertically. The electronic Maytag of that time was VERY short lived for whatever reason. I remember bluish illuminated graphic indicators on that unit as well.
Lenny
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Post# 8379-11/3/2001-01:15 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming
MESSAGE: Congrats on your purchase. I think you will like your machine. I've had a Frigmore over a year and think it's the greatest.
As far as HE detergents, I'd recommend Wisk HE liquid or Wisk tablets. They are the same price as regular detergent, at least in California. I just tried Surf tablets today and think they are great, too. They have oxygen bleach in them...good for whites. I used two tablets and there were no suds!
If the wood doesn't give you enough support, try cement blocks...inexpensive and very sturdy.
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Post# 8380-11/3/2001-01:18 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: My first SQ
MESSAGE: Beautiful machine, Peter. Congrats!
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Post# 8381-11/3/2001-01:23 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (HE3t overkill)
MESSAGE: Tom,
I couldn't reach Applianceville for a few days, Sunday morning seems the best time to log in. I have browsed a few European Whirlpool sites, but I didn't seen anything there that even looks like a Duet/Hettie combo. Bauknecht and Whirlpool both have combos, but they are the European size combos. The Bauknecht even has an electronic dryness sensor control. The service trainer said the basic model? Does he mean a model without the water heater and with a heating element for the dryer? I don't think that would sell on the European market, nobody here has a hot water connection for the washer.
It's getting colder here, lower fifties during the day and at night lower fourties. Cloudy, but still no rain.
Louis
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Post# 8382-11/4/2001-02:58 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: For the way you wash
MESSAGE: Congratulations Peter!! I love Speed Queen washers. Happy washing!!
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Post# 8383-11/4/2001-03:09 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: For the way you wash (A810 control panel)
MESSAGE: And I was thinking it again!! LOL
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Post# 8384-11/4/2001-03:30 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: I think Mike and I know a few Whirlpools from the inside by now. I think I feel a slap coming up!! The phone is very cute. Did these phones come in many colors? I remember a few from TV series.
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Post# 8385-11/4/2001-04:16 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Slap,Slap,Slap!!)
MESSAGE: Well said Louis
Its Lady Kenmore`s and ABC`s we need to see!!!and if you dont comply Robert you leave us no option but a return visit to tie you up in the "Vibratron Belt" for MAX pain,(assuming you did buy it without saying LOL),
Cheers, Mike
p.s. good to be back, last minute work and vacation, no tan stayed in UK, and Hundreds of posts to visit, this place is soooo popular!!!
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Post# 8386-11/4/2001-04:21 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: My first SQ
MESSAGE: Peter
Congratulations on your find, maximum dialability, thats what we like to see, non of you`re one stop switchy dial thingy!!
enjoy the restoration, must be more fun than a perfect find!!!
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 8387-11/4/2001-04:27 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Classic Frigidaire (Orange Is the colour!!! )
MESSAGE: Hi Bob
Orange definatly is the colour for the second Titan Tub following our Club Competition, trouble is still not arrived yet!!! only one part of the UK has distribution ...London ,the South again!!!
First wash is with Orange for you guys!!!!
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 8388-11/4/2001-05:55 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (Detergent and Frigmore water level tweak.)
MESSAGE: Jason - Friends that have FL's have used the following and been very satisfied:
Tide HE powder
Wisk HE liquid
Surf Tablets(not specifically HE - but the box says "compatible with HE washers). You have to put them right in the drum though.
Purex Tablets or Wisk tablets are also HE compatible. Don't know much about Sears HE detergent
You should try running a load without detergent to se if the FL removes any detergent buildup.........
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Post# 8389-11/4/2001-06:03 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (Detergent and Frigmore water level tweak.)
MESSAGE: Jason - I just remembered that if Fab powder is available in your area, I understand that the regular and Rain Forest flavors are HE compatible (but the powders only). From the recent posts I read, looks like Tide HE powder and Wisk HE seem to be the runaway faves...............
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Post# 8390-11/4/2001-07:34 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (Detergent and Frigmore water level tweak.)
MESSAGE: I've used Tide HE (both powder and liquid) and Wisk HE. I prefer Tide powder, but use the liquid as a pretreater. My favorite is Persil, but it's not easy to get your hands on - either mail order or a trip to the UK. There's a British food store in the area, I'm gonna see if I can talk them into getting some.
I haven't checked out Surf yet, but I've looked at the Fab box and didn't see anything that made me think it was ok for front loaders. I'll check again.
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Post# 8391-11/4/2001-07:42 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (What about Ariel?)
MESSAGE: I know you can get it through BBCAmerica website. Is that HE compatible? Also, Ariel has phosphates right? (Newbie question) What's the advantage with Phosphates anyway?
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Post# 8392-11/4/2001-07:51 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (What about Ariel?)
MESSAGE: Really, I thought I'd looked there and the only thing I could find was Fairy and Ariel. Haven't tried them.
As for phosphates, I'm still figuring that all out. Apparently obtaining it involves meeting shady gentlemen in dark alleys. Actually, I have some STPP on order and should have it next week. I'll let you know what it does for me.
Oh and I do understand that Ariel has phosphates. Persil says <5%, but I've heard it has a substitute (phosphate helper?).
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Post# 8393-11/4/2001-07:57 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
Retro-Looking washers
MESSAGE: I really think that washer manufacturers today should look into retro-styling some of their washers. The only washer I know of that has any "retro" style to it is the Whirlpool Calypso. The curved faceplate and that plastic front trim somehow reminds me of a hint of 50s Norge styling. There is a refrigerator (I think it's Kenmore) that has some nice curves and looks quite retro. In reading the classic Frigidaire thread, I think 'Lux should revive the Pulsator. Why not theme it to like like an old Unimatic or 1-18. Or here's a thought, a Frigmore that's very round shaped like the original Bendix FL washer, or White-Westinghouse could do their Frigmore variant as a Laundromat.
It would be a dream to see solid-tub washers come back. Amana could do a "50s Speed Queen" themed solid-tub washer. Maytag could do a "Norge Time-Line" Atlantis, etc...
It would keep us young folks who are chasing after Frigmores and Hetties in touch with the awesome classic machines of 50 years ago.
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Post# 8394-11/4/2001-08:03 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Electronic 90's Maytag?
MESSAGE: Lenny, the initial line of the dependable Care line also had an electronic version. Was only out until they modified the control panel to a more back-slanted design--like Whirlpool. Believe they had lots of problems with it. But my LDE9824 dryer was not the absolute TOL, there was an electronic version called the LDE9900.
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Post# 8395-11/4/2001-08:06 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: For the way you wash (maytag)
MESSAGE: MY mom had this same exact maytag-real cool washer.
Peter
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Post# 8396-11/4/2001-08:10 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Slap,Slap,Slap!!)
MESSAGE: Wooohooo Mike, make sure I know about the return trip so I can come watch Robert being "belted".
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Post# 8397-11/4/2001-08:14 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: My first SQ
MESSAGE: Greg,
Thanks for the offer, but I want to make sure she is mechanically sound before I start upgrading. Once I'm sure everything is stable under the outer tub, then we'll talk! The pocelain is a bit rough around the base of the 'tator. I'll get some more detail pics posted today.
-ph
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Post# 8398-11/4/2001-08:15 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming
MESSAGE: Good job, Jason! Will this be the rear console model or the stackable model? Excellent price too!
-ph
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Post# 8399-11/4/2001-08:20 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (HE detergent)
MESSAGE: There are those who will certainly disagree with me, but you don't need to stop using your Mountain Spew scented Tide. Just cut down the amount you use. I've used the scoop like you'd find in a powdered drink mix for years and have fantasic results out of my FL's. The scoop should be about 25 - 30 cc's. Adjust for soil level, load size and water hardness according to your taste. It'll take a while to get used to, but you'll be fine. You get a better wash when you use the additives of your choice!
-ph
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Post# 8400-11/4/2001-08:22 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: My first SQ (size doesn't matter)
MESSAGE: Robert,
They are all small next to my 1-18's!!!
-ph
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Post# 8401-11/4/2001-08:26 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (Detergent and Frigmore water level tweak.)
MESSAGE: Congratulations! I see that Target has the Surf tablets, 28 load size on sale 2 for $8.00. If you have the coupon from last week, you could save even more. They are HE compatable.
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Post# 8402-11/4/2001-08:27 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: My first SQ
MESSAGE: Greg! Don't make me have to come to see you! I could sure go for a good SQ service class...
-ph
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Post# 8403-11/4/2001-08:37 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: My first SQ
MESSAGE: Greg, That black panel is in infinitly better shape than mine! I guess mine is one step down from TOL.
-ph
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Post# 8404-11/4/2001-08:39 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (HE3t overkill)
MESSAGE: Louis, happy Sunday. Sorry for the confusing use of the word basic. What I meant was that he said that the machine as we see it in just the washer configuration is also available as a combination in Europe. He said that the complete wash & dry cycle takes about 3 hours and they were trying to shorten that for the American machine. Actually for people who remember the old combos, with the exception of the 36 inch Duomatic, 3 hours is not that much longer than some took. I remember the time for the GE combo could be as much as 2.5 hours for a heavy load. Maybe the trainer meant that the company that makes the Duet/Hettie makes a combo so it would not be that hard to make the machines into combos, but that is not what I understood him to say. At any rate, the thought is exciting.
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Post# 8405-11/4/2001-08:45 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (What about Ariel?)
MESSAGE: After using regular Ariel for about a month at home, I'm hooked. Have been testing it in the FL's here, and the small scoop does a great job for me. Appliance hunting and restoring jeans come out wonderfully clean!
-ph
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Post# 8406-11/4/2001-08:48 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Hi Louis, yes those Bell Telephone "Desk" Phones came in a variety of colors over the years, I have about ten of them, each in a different color. Just what I need another collection.
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Post# 8407-11/4/2001-08:50 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (HE3t overkill)
MESSAGE: Louis, what's going on with the Internet connection in the Netherlands? Could it be just your ISP or is it really everyone? I thought this stuff was relayed by satellite anyway.
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Post# 8408-11/4/2001-08:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Slap,Slap,Slap!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Mike, we've missed you. What's going on with your latest washer purchase? Any news?
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Post# 8409-11/4/2001-08:53 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (Stackable)
MESSAGE: It's the stackable model with the Front-mounted controls. I like that kind better than top mounted controls. It gives that European FL feel to it.
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Post# 8410-11/4/2001-08:57 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (BBC America)
MESSAGE: The BBC America website is all about videos and TV programs. Do you have the link of where the detergents are?
-ph
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Post# 8411-11/4/2001-09:00 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (Ariel on BBC America)
MESSAGE: You can get Ariel and Fairy dishwashing liquid here.
LINK: http://shop.bbcamerica.com/ukgoods/dept.asp?dept%5Fid=15
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Post# 8412-11/4/2001-09:01 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (What about Ariel?)
MESSAGE: Yes, Persil is HE compatible - but I don't see it on the BBC web site.
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Post# 8413-11/4/2001-09:01 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (What about Ariel?)
MESSAGE: That was interesting JasonL, I didn't know about BBCAmerica. I see they have Ariel available, but I don't think they sell Persil right now. I would love to get some more if can sometime.
LINK: http://shop.bbcamerica.com/ukgoods/dept.asp?dept%5Fid=15
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Post# 8414-11/4/2001-09:03 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (GMTA)
MESSAGE: Great minds think alike. We posted the same link simultaneously.
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Post# 8415-11/4/2001-09:03 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Slap,Slap,Slap!!)
MESSAGE: Hey
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Post# 8416-11/4/2001-09:07 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (What about Ariel?)
MESSAGE: And I don't think the Ariel comes from the UK - instructions are in Spanish.
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Post# 8417-11/4/2001-09:07 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (HE3t overkill)
MESSAGE: I agree Tom, in both my Whirlpool combo and Duomatic 2 to 2.5 hours per load is the usual time, sheets can speed through at 1.5 hours.
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Post# 8418-11/4/2001-09:09 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (GMTA)
MESSAGE: I just noticed that, Jason, did you ever see Persil on BBCAm?
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Post# 8419-11/4/2001-09:14 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag washer question
MESSAGE: It sounds to me like the tub cover has decided to shift. Or drop down. Ive seen the maytags do this and the tub will rub against the tub cover while agitating and spinning. Its not a big deal unless the tub cover clamp has rusted.
SD
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Post# 8420-11/4/2001-09:14 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (Persil)
MESSAGE: No. I never saw it. I don't know where to find it. Ariel has a website but it's for UK. :-(
So it's Tide HE for me or just very small doses of Mountain SPRING (not spew) Tide.. hehe
"Take your next vacation in a brand new Frigidaire"
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Post# 8421-11/4/2001-09:17 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT:
RE: Electronic 90's Maytag?
MESSAGE: I use to have 2 sets of those machines. They started making them in 90'. Model 9900 then in 94 they changed a few things and called it the 9904. I had the 9904. I left one set when I split with my ex and sold the other set do to lack of room. They were awsome machines. Wish I could have kept it.
SD
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Post# 8422-11/4/2001-09:18 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
New Gain
MESSAGE: I got a whiff of new Gain today. P&G has been saying for a while that they don't expect to introduce Ariel to the American market, and that users of Ariel should be happy with Gain. Smells to me that new Gain is sweeter to appeal to the Ariel fans.
-ph
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Post# 8423-11/4/2001-09:20 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (Ariel on BBC America)
MESSAGE: That's funny! "Instructions in Spanish". Skip the inflated website prices and go to your local Mexican tienda and support local businesses...
-ph
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Post# 8424-11/4/2001-09:21 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (Persil)
MESSAGE: You can mail order Persil from the Miele web site. They don't have all flavors though - my favorite is the Colour Capsules (liquid packed in soluable platic bags - toss them in and they disolve.
Well, I went out and bought a box of Fab Rain Forest. The box does say it can be used in front loaders, but to use less (does that mean it's not REALLY HE compatible). The price is good - the box is bigger than Tide, but about half the price -- but that's deceiving - the scoop inside is hugh! Smells very nice. I've got my first load going now, used a bit extra (more like their top loader instructions). It actually seems to suds less than Tide HE. Now I just wonder how it will clean. Anyone use it before? Opinions?
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Post# 8425-11/4/2001-09:22 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (What about Ariel?)
MESSAGE: It appears P&G has dibs on this site. Persil is a Lever product.
-ph
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Post# 8426-11/4/2001-09:23 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Robert, you don't really neeed the phones as another collection. We've had your number for years. And you're just as colorful as the variety of colors that they came in!!! Phones & Frigidaires, definite ringers!!!
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Post# 8427-11/4/2001-09:25 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (What about Ariel?)
MESSAGE: Is Fairy P&G?
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Post# 8428-11/4/2001-09:39 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: My first SQ
MESSAGE: You are welcome any time!
I considered keeping the SS tub from that black panel SQ, but didn't....probably wouldn't let you take that on the plane anyway!
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Post# 8429-11/4/2001-09:42 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: My first SQ
MESSAGE: He could try and convince them it's an extra turbine for one of the engines!!! Could explain, the plane would really clean up on speed then. It would best be suited for a British Air flight though for the Queen's sake.
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Post# 8430-11/4/2001-09:43 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (What's up with the wallpaper??)
MESSAGE: I have a beautiful dial desk phone in pink in my bedroom - it used to ring, but when I had my phone service switched it stopped and I can't figure it out - I love the "bell" ringing!
And the wallpaper you are using Robert?
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Post# 8431-11/4/2001-09:47 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Gain
MESSAGE: Skyler and I went to the pet store the other day and I could smell Ariel on the cashier's clothes - recognize that scent anywhere!
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Post# 8432-11/4/2001-09:48 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (What's up with the wallpaper??)
MESSAGE: Greg, I wonder if it's this?
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Post# 8433-11/4/2001-09:48 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Gain (Robert's wallpaper)
MESSAGE: It's new, a 1958 Lady Kenmore!!!!
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Post# 8434-11/4/2001-09:50 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (What's up with the wallpaper??)
MESSAGE: Now I see, I was looking for Grants Bradford!
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Post# 8435-11/4/2001-09:51 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (What's up with the wallpaper??)
MESSAGE: And I love what appears to be the seafoam green or pastel green color.
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Post# 8436-11/4/2001-10:11 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Bell phone)
MESSAGE: My grandmother has a white rotary bell phone that still dials out and rings. It's got that classic crackley sound to it. I don't know the vintage but it's gotta be 70s or early 80s at the latest.
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Post# 8437-11/4/2001-10:45 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (Detergent and Frigmore water level tweak.)
MESSAGE: Fab Powders are no longer available in my area, but in discussing this phenom with the Colgate consumer hotline, they told me that FAB Rainforest Powder is HE compatible, and I read somewhere on a post here that regular FAB powder is also HE compatible. Checking the box is a good idea since formulations change and may not have reached your area yet - or maybe regular FAB powder really is NOT HE compatible.
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Post# 8438-11/4/2001-10:49 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (What about Ariel?)
MESSAGE: The Ariel powder sold in plastic bags (Mexican Ariel)is loaded with phosphates. But if you find this you need to make sure the bag is marked "bajaespuma" which I think means low foam. Although regular Ariel contains suds suppressors, it may still be too foamy for Sir FriGEMore. British Ariel tablets which I have used are actually called Ariel Essential and are HE compatible. But I believe they do not contain much, if any phosphate. Instead they use zeolites. Now, here is where I will ask Rich (spambdamn) to help with a technical explanation.....................
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Post# 8439-11/4/2001-10:49 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (Detergent and Frigmore water level tweak.)
MESSAGE: Fab regular box says the same thing as Rainforest - can be used in front loader, but use a bit less.
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Post# 8440-11/4/2001-10:50 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Connection)
MESSAGE: Robert & Louis, If it is satellite, the sun spot activity could be having an effect. My cable TV has been crawling a message saying that we will be experiencing sun disruptions over the next few weeks and this has been going on for a few weeks already.
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Post# 8441-11/4/2001-10:54 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (HE detergent)
MESSAGE: ph - what about all that stuff I read about how scaling back regular detergent results in substandard washing?? What is your experience? ALso, what happens when you introduce STPP into the mix?? Of course you know if P&G, Lever and Colgate had just left all of their ultra powders alone with their original low sudsing formulas we wouldn't have this issue. OTOH, the P&G wouldn't be able to charge $13.99 for a box of Tide HE that NEVER goes on sale!!!!! Smacks of legal extortion to me!!!!!
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Post# 8442-11/4/2001-10:56 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (What about Ariel?)
MESSAGE: ph - I love the performance of the Ariel powder, but the smell is strong enough to knock me out!! Now if they could change the fragrance the the OLD Cheer fragrance, they would really have something!!!
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Post# 8443-11/4/2001-10:57 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (wallpaper)
MESSAGE: Robert, That's my mom's 58 LK in the exact same green. It was a floor model that they reduced. Said they weren't going to sell that color anymore; something about lack of appeal in the South?
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Post# 8444-11/4/2001-11:00 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (GMTA)
MESSAGE: I just searched for PErsil and Lifebuoy soap - neither are available.
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Post# 8445-11/4/2001-11:03 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Gain
MESSAGE: Well, we are not happy and it does not appeal to us. Besides I miss the old Gain fragrance - and I mean the one from the 70's when it's ad campaign promised that "Gain - treats stains like dirt".
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Post# 8446-11/4/2001-11:38 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Slap,Slap,Slap!!)
MESSAGE: Mike,
And GM Frigidaires and Speed Queens!
Perhaps we could put 220V on the Vibratron Belt. I bet a Bouncing Basket soon would be found. And we want inside pictures ofcourse from that machine! HA!
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Post# 8447-11/4/2001-11:41 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (HE3t overkill)
MESSAGE: I guess the trainer must indeed have meant to say that Bauknecht makes a combo. Here's the link to the Bauknecht site.
LINK: http://www.bauknecht.de/scripts/ndisapi.dll/bauknecht/pgBrandSting?host=www.bauknecht.de
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Post# 8448-11/4/2001-11:44 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (HE3t overkill)
MESSAGE: I'm not sure what is happening. I couldn't post on Applianceville for a while (don't even think about saying it LOL), but now things are back to normal (probably for a while). There could be some other problems, but I can't bother about that right now.
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Post# 8449-11/4/2001-11:46 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Connection)
MESSAGE: Aha!! There is a reasonable explanation. Any way I hope it is over soon, very frustrating to not to read messages here for a few days. Almost had to read 400 posts from the last few days. And ofcourse I really missed you guys!
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Post# 8450-11/4/2001-12:18 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Electronic 90's Maytag? (TOL Electronic TL Maytag)
MESSAGE: Yes, I do. I saw it several times at Circuit City. Ran across one that was powered-up, tried to run a spin-only on it, the power was suddenly gone . . . made me wonder if a department manager put a stop to my fun.
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Post# 8451-11/4/2001-12:54 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Electronic 90's Maytag?
MESSAGE: I've seen several of them.....all dead. Now if I could find one that worked I think it would make a fun toy for a while.
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Post# 8452-11/4/2001-13:05 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
Load Sensor in Mabel
MESSAGE: If anyone remembers Tom, John and myself( actually John did most of the work, Tom and I made sure it was getting done correctly.) put the Dependable Drive tranny in Mabel this April. I finally ordered a Load Sensor agitator for her. What a huge difference!!! The clothes actually move thru the water. Unless of course you put in too many jeans (8)..then the top of the agitator just sits there grinding. Maybe thats why they call it a Load Sensor? Anyway, I can now say I am happy with the way she works.
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Post# 8453-11/4/2001-13:18 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (Fab Rain Forest)
MESSAGE: I use Fab Rain Forest regularly (but not in a front-loader). Have about 1/3 of a box left at the moment, along with about a half box of HEB Bravo.
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Post# 8454-11/4/2001-13:44 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Glad to see you and Mike back!)
MESSAGE: We missed you too - glad to hear your internet problems are better - is sattellite TV/ISP connection more popular than the wired cable systems we have in the US?
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Post# 8455-11/4/2001-13:47 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Load Sensor in Mabel
MESSAGE: Is Mabel a large tub? How high is the full water level on the load sensor agitator? I'll bet it makes a huge difference in turnover for large loads, hmmmmm.... May have to get that part ordered too - lovely idea!
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Post# 8456-11/4/2001-13:49 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Electronic 90's Maytag?
MESSAGE: I recall seeing these in the stores, but briefly. I've never seen one otherwise, this doesn't seem to be a Top-of-the-Line washer kinda kind of town. Anyone want a A606?
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Post# 8457-11/4/2001-14:27 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Load Sensor in Mabel
MESSAGE: Jascon, I find this fascinating. Mike in Maine took his original LoadSensor out of his Myg and initially replaced it with a PowerFin 12. Then he put in a, I believe, the original Power-Fin with internal lint filter and says his clothes now REALLY move through the wash. Complete opposite of your experience. Personally, glad to see the LS is doing such a terrific boost for Maybel. Kinda like giving her Geritol, I guess. LOL
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Post# 8458-11/4/2001-14:30 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (Fab Rain Forest)
MESSAGE: What is HEB Bravo and what do the initials stand for, please?
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Post# 8459-11/4/2001-14:33 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (HE detergent)
MESSAGE: I know when I've tried using less regular detergent, everything eventually became very dingy.
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Post# 8460-11/4/2001-14:43 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (Fab Rain Forest)
MESSAGE: Are you happy with how it cleans?
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Post# 8461-11/4/2001-14:46 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Load Sensor in Mabel
MESSAGE: I just looked at the pics Greg, Maybel appears to be a large tub--4 water level buttons.
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Post# 8462-11/4/2001-14:46 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Load Sensor in Mabel
MESSAGE: What exactly did the load sensor agitator do? Sorry to appear dumb, but I thought it was just a marketing phrase. Is there really something special about it?
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Post# 8463-11/4/2001-14:49 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT:
RE: There's Another Lady In My House! (Unimatic's 1972 Lady Kenmore confirmation.....)
MESSAGE: Trainguy:
I will have to side with Uni on this one, and say that the other Lady Kenmore that you MAY be a 1972 model. I know for a fact that all the Lady Kenmore models from 1966-75 all have 14 push buttons on them. But however, if it this one has the colored push buttons on it, then the Lady that you have could very well be a 1969-71 model. Now, on the other hand, if it has just the goldish/brownish push buttons on the panel, then I will side with Uni on this one and go as far to say that it is either a 1972 or a 1973 model (the last models that have the three speed motor and the "Vari-Flex" agitator on it). Also, did the lid have the "curved arched" handle on it?? If that is the case, it's a 1972. If it has the "semi long oval" opening on the bottom right of the lid, then it's a 1973. I am also glad to hear that the machine still works after you have plugged it in and turned it on. It sounds like it is in immaculate shape. I'll be glad when you get your digital camera up and working also. I would really like to see all of your machines.
--Charles--
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Post# 8464-11/4/2001-14:55 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Electronic 90's Maytag?
MESSAGE: Lenny:
I remember the TOL Electronic Maytag very well. Why it was short lived in the Maytag stable was beyond me, and it still is beyond me now. That was one pretty machine. One of the prettiest Maytags ever built in my opinion (next to the all push button Maytags of the 1960's).
They also had an Electronic Washer/Dryer stack combination back in the late 80's/early 90's. You remember that one as well?? I thought that was a pretty model too.
--Charles--
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Post# 8465-11/4/2001-15:15 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT:
RE: There's Another Lady In My House!
MESSAGE: Appnut:
14...... And yes, this one has the flip down console cover too.
--Charles--
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Post# 8466-11/4/2001-15:17 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
Twisted Song Parody
MESSAGE: To the tune of "I Wanna Rock by Twisted Sister"
I Wanna Wash
Teacher: "And what have we here?" (looks at notebook) "Lady Kenmore?! You're a disgrace! What kind of a man are you? WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO WITH YOUR LIFE"...
I wanna wash WASH!
I wanna wash WASH!
I want to wash WASH!
I wanna wash WASH!
Put the lid down you say
and all I got to to say to you time and time again
I say NO! (NO!)
no no, no no, no
Go out side and play
but when I got some clothes to wash and once again
I say NO! (NO!)
no no, no no, no
The Kenmore's spinnin'
and I like the sound it's makin'
There's only one thing I can say to you
I wanna wash WASH!
I wanna wash WASH!
I want to wash WASH!
I wanna wash WASH!
There's a feeling that
nothing else can feel like when I wash that makes me go (GO!)
go go , go go , go
Going up and down
gotta get a Unimatic fix to the basement let's go (GO!)
go go , go go, go
When it starts spinnin'
and the rpms are kickin'
There's nothing else that I would rather do
I wanna wash WASH!
I wanna wash WASH!
I want to wash WASH!
I wanna wash WASH!
I wanna wash WASH! wash WASH! wash! WASH! wash
I wanna wash WASH! wash WASH! wash! WASH! wash
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Post# 8467-11/4/2001-15:58 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Load Sensor in Mabel
MESSAGE: She is a large tub. The part number is 22003454. The fab softener dispenser and dispenser cup are sold seperatly so you will have to order those too. I have the part numbers for those around here somewhere......
I don't remember if I raised the water level on this machine or not, but it is about 1/2 inch higher than the last set of holes in the wash basket.
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Post# 8468-11/4/2001-16:01 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Load Sensor in Mabel
MESSAGE: It's a dual action agitator. Nothing special like the Kenmore one that actually 'grows' with a larger load.
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Post# 8469-11/4/2001-16:10 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Load Sensor in Mabel
MESSAGE: grows? how have i missed that?
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Post# 8470-11/4/2001-16:43 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (HEB Bravo)
MESSAGE: Hiya, Tom!
I posted this picture a while ago, probably before you got your new 'puter and you missed it!
H.E.B. = H.E. Butt, a "local" grocery chain. Bravo is an in-house premium detergent they came up with a few months ago. I don't know what exactly about it is supposed to be premium, but it appears more concentrated than most. The amber scoop is from the Bravo, and the white one is from Fab Rain Forest.
LINK: http://users.wcnet.net/dadoes/bravo.jpg
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Post# 8471-11/4/2001-16:44 ||| Appliguy (Vienna Va.)
SUBJECT:
I like the new wallpaper
MESSAGE: Robert,
I like the 58 Lk wallpaper it is really cool
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Post# 8472-11/4/2001-16:44 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (Fab Rain Forest)
MESSAGE: My laundry is not particularly challenging, but I've never had any problems with Fab.
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Post# 8473-11/4/2001-17:04 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (Detergent and Frigmore water level tweak.)
MESSAGE: Ugh, I hate Wisk HE liquid. Pungent odor and it doesn't clean worth squat.
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Post# 8474-11/4/2001-17:14 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (What about Ariel?)
MESSAGE: The Ariel I've seen in local stores, which is made in Mexico, does indeed contain phosphates. I have no idea what the European Ariel contains, although zeolite is a good guess.
Complex phophates are pretty much the same as sodium tripolyphosphate, or STPP. It's related to TSP, but much better for laundry. It is a sequestering water softener, which means that it doesn't form a nasty precipitate with hard water minerals like sodium carbonate will. Earthy soils will also contain hard water-like minerals, and STPP excels at breaking these away from the fabric and holding them in solution so they get washed away. It is very difficult to find American made detergents with STPP, although I have found institutional stuff at a local "cash and carry" restaurant supply store. Unfortunately, like Ariel, it is high sudsing and not really appropriate for a front loader. I have never seen Ariel "bajaespuma" in stores, but if I did, I would definitely try it.
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Post# 8475-11/4/2001-17:38 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (HEB Bravo)
MESSAGE: Thank you, Glenn. I might have a last name that nobody can spell or pronounce, but it is better than Butt.
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Post# 8476-11/4/2001-17:39 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: I like the new wallpaper
MESSAGE: Do you notice how the lid seems to be missing from the 58 LK?
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Post# 8477-11/4/2001-17:43 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (What about Ariel?)
MESSAGE: I don't know if I'm using enough, or too much, but I don't get the high sudsing that you do with the STPP. When I brought it home on Tuesday and tried it with Wisk tabs, I got very few suds, but that's an HE strain too. I tried it with Fresh Start and little to no suds. I used it with the Ivory Snow trial the other night and started out with a nice layer of suds, but within 2 minutes they were all gone and I just had milky, slippery water. I've tested for slipperiness in all the loads I've done and they have all been fine - just no suds. I typically put 1/3 cup in with my normal amount of detergent/soap. Am I doing it wrong?
Sudsless in Omaha
BTW: I loved the gentle softness (and no strong fragrance) with the Ivory loads the other night.
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Post# 8478-11/4/2001-18:03 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
Laundry Queen Washer?
MESSAGE: Add this to your dream lists guys - who made this?
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1027770552
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Post# 8479-11/4/2001-18:13 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Load Sensor in Mabel
MESSAGE: I don't remember what the agitator is called but the spiral is spring loaded. Under normal conditions the spiral is in the standard position, then if a large load is placed in the machine the spiral will move up about a 1/2 to 1 inch in height. I thought it was a really neat thing to come up with but I fail to see how it helped get things cleaner.
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Post# 8480-11/4/2001-18:18 ||| trainguy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
RE: There's Another Lady In My House! (Unimatic's 1972 Lady Kenmore confirmation.....)
MESSAGE: Hi Charles,
Thanks for all the information. Both lids appear to be the same. My first washer has wood grained buttons while this newest purchase has gold foiled buttons. I know that pictures would take all the guessing out of this. I promise to learn how to hook the camera to my computer soon.
My other half told me that I am not permitted to bring any more washers home. Since I only pay $20.00 for each appliance (and because I am the boss), I can't afford not to shop. What if I miss a pink WCI-65 or a matching LK dryer??!? This is WAY too much fun.
Rich
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Post# 8481-11/4/2001-18:29 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Laundry Queen Washer?
MESSAGE: Oh Baaaaahhhhrrrrrrooooother!!!!!
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Post# 8482-11/4/2001-18:57 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (What about Ariel?)
MESSAGE: Greg, you are going to need more with the soap. STTP is not a surfactant, it won't make suds on its own. The detergents have builders with them so you are using the right amount with them, probably, but the soap probably needs more STTP and soap itself. If the suds fall, you have not used enough. Soap is not concentrated like modern detergents. You might have to use up to two cups depending on soil and machine size.
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Post# 8483-11/4/2001-19:45 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (Detergent and Frigmore water level tweak.)
MESSAGE: I am kind of surprised at that - - I have used it in both front loaders and top loaders and my clothes came out fine. I will say that certain stains need separate attention, though.
Of course, I feel about Liquid Tide HE the same way as you feel about the Wisk...............
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Post# 8484-11/4/2001-19:45 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (What about Ariel?)
MESSAGE: I don't know. STPP is not a suds suppressant. Where did you get yours? Is the box/bag/container clearly labeled "sodium tripolyphosphate"?
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Post# 8485-11/4/2001-19:47 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (What about Ariel?)
MESSAGE: Rich - the European Ariel does contain zeolites. And I am beginning to believe we may never see the low sudsing Ariel.............does it really exist or do we want to believe it so much....................
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Post# 8486-11/4/2001-19:48 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (What about Ariel?)
MESSAGE: Greg,
Also, you should add the STPP to the water before adding the detergent. The idea is to let the STPP remove all the hardness before the soap gets inactivated by the hardness. Try adding a cup of STPP next time and see what happens.
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Post# 8487-11/4/2001-19:49 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (What about Ariel?)
MESSAGE: If we ever do see low sudsing Ariel, it might well be the phosphate free variety.
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Post# 8488-11/4/2001-19:52 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (What about Ariel?)
MESSAGE: I wish there were a powdered soap product available today. I am tired of grating bars of Fels Naptha and Lux... For a while, some of the Natural foods stores carried soap powder, but no longer... I would even suggest that maybe P&G (Ivory Snow) or Purex (Instant Fels) should produce this as a special order item. But of course, I know that that is daffy even for me .... they would never even think of doing it. And if they did, they woudld probably charge a king's ransom for the damn stuff!! Sigh.... back to the grater.................
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Post# 8489-11/4/2001-19:55 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (What about Ariel?)
MESSAGE: I guess that is another reason why soap isn't necessarily the most efficient choice for today's washing. You do have to use up to two cups sometimes, so you probably don't get a whole lot of washes from a box !!
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Post# 8490-11/4/2001-19:58 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (What about Ariel?)
MESSAGE: Well my radar is always out for the low sudsing Ariel. Of course it's always a kick to see how the proprietors of the Mexican markets look at this big old gringo buying packages of Viva and Ariel!
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Post# 8491-11/4/2001-20:01 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (Detergent and Frigmore water level tweak.)
MESSAGE: I thought it cleaned ok (not great) but I agree that it smells rather bad. But it was still better than the formula that they sold mail order before releasing an HE formula for retail.
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Post# 8492-11/4/2001-20:02 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (What about Ariel?)
MESSAGE: What's the recommendation for a front loader?
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Post# 8493-11/4/2001-20:47 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (What about Ariel?)
MESSAGE: Well, that would also vary according to the hardness of your water, the type of detergent used, and the amount of soiling of your laundry. In my neptune, for a medium size or lightly soiled full load, I add about 1 ounce of a mix of 67% Sears Ultra Plus HE, 33% STPP. For a more heavily soiled medium or full load, I use 2 to 3 ounces. I guess that would work out to about 1/3 to 1 ounce STPP. Now, my water is generally on the soft side. Currently it's about 3 grains (I just tested it). According to the water company, it can vary between 2 grains and 9 grains. The purpose of STPP is not just to soften water, but also to suspend mineral-laden dirt from fabric. So even in soft water, it can have a beneficial effect. I have seen Wisk HE fall flat on its face trying to clean some jeans that were heavily soiled with clay soil. STPP and Sears HE got them clean - like new!
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Post# 8494-11/4/2001-21:15 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (What about Ariel?)
MESSAGE: Yes - it's the right stuff. I used some in the 1-18 last night, but I was using a sample of the 80's Solo liquid detergent (what a smell!) so it's not a good test for sudsing. The 1-18 could make suds out of most any detergent. Maybe it takes more than the usual amount to soften the pebbles and sand coming out of the tap.
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Post# 8495-11/4/2001-21:46 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Laundry Queen Washer?
MESSAGE: Although I can't read the ad text to be sure, if I was going to take a wild guess I would be its another one of the many obsure Beam machines.
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Post# 8496-11/4/2001-21:57 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (What about Ariel?)
MESSAGE: Yes, what a smell on the old Solo liquid, but I have to say that that one of the few detergents I ever used that didn't clean a damn thing. It couldn't budge even the easiest dirt..........
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Post# 8497-11/4/2001-22:04 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (What about Ariel?)
MESSAGE: It was pretty bad - there's 4 t-shirts that are back in the washer tonight for the dirt Solo left behind!
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Post# 8498-11/4/2001-22:24 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (HEB Bravo)
MESSAGE: I just hope none of the Butts are named Harry . . .
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Post# 8499-11/4/2001-22:28 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (H-E-B Grocery Company)
MESSAGE: Testing the new wallpaper selection, and here's a link.
LINK: http://www.heb.com
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Post# 8500-11/4/2001-22:57 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Jetcone Gets a Control Tower
MESSAGE: Going through some old videos this evening, I found this fab-o little clip taken during the very first Minneapolis Wash-In back in '97. After having a big wash-in the day before we all took a trip out to Aberdeen SD to go visit the Sacred Appliance Burial Ground, and here you see Jet delivering his new WI-57 Control Tower...
LINK: http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/tide1957/lst?.dir=/Aberdeen+Appliance+Burial+Ground&.err=&.last=1&.ndnm=JetconeWI-57.wmv&.view=l
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Post# 8501-11/4/2001-23:12 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (What about Ariel?)
MESSAGE: Well, Greg, I'm sorry. Wasn't I the one who made the decision to try the Solo just for grins? Ah yes, the excitement of a mini washer convention over the phone. We'll have to do it again.
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Post# 8502-11/4/2001-23:13 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (HEB Bravo)
MESSAGE: All I know of is Henry, not Harry.
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Post# 8503-11/4/2001-23:18 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Jetcone Gets a Control Tower
MESSAGE: Plan a trip! I really would like to see this (and check a few things off the "laundry list") if it's all still there!
Seriously - who wants to go....that would be a fun spring convention event!
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Post# 8504-11/4/2001-00:38 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Glad to see you and Mike back!)
MESSAGE: Well, I'm not sure if they keep this way. Overhere we have mostly wired cable systems. Only some people in the countryside have sattelite connections.
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Post# 8505-11/5/2001-06:55 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Jetcone Gets a Control Tower
MESSAGE: Count me in Greg, spring is the best time to go to the farm because the grass is still shallow and as long as there has been not a lot of rain. April would be best, I haven't spoke to them in a copuple of years, so as long as they are still there, we can go.
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Post# 8506-11/5/2001-07:01 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
POD
MESSAGE: Over the weekend I did some major re-writing of the code that generates the Picture of the Day module. Two major changes:
-first I figured out a way to prevent the POD from picking the same picture two days in a row, which it does on occassion.
-Next on some browsers, you had to refresh the POD to see the new picture in the morning, I changed the code so this should happen automatically.
Let me know if anything strange happens.
Unfortunately this morning the roulette wheel was spun and it picked the same picture (naughty server) that it picked twice last week. So I reset the system so I would pick a new POD for today.
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Post# 8507-11/5/2001-07:07 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD
MESSAGE: Wow! I'd been trying to decide what to do with my cabinets and work surfaces. Now I know! Thanks for the suggestion. I'm off to Home Depot...
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Post# 8508-11/5/2001-07:09 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Get down!)
MESSAGE: Man, I wish I grew up in that house! All those avocado appliances! I know that family had an 8 track player too. I was born in the wrong decade.
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Post# 8509-11/5/2001-07:19 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD
MESSAGE: Thanks for all your hard work - I look forward to the picture every day. Now if you can get my appliance screen saver from picking the same pics every time!
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Post# 8510-11/5/2001-07:20 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Get down!)
MESSAGE: The Brady home was always my dream. Avacado appliances and orange work surfaces. Not to mention those egg chairs.
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Post# 8511-11/5/2001-07:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Jetcone Gets a Control Tower
MESSAGE: It's a plan then!
We'll have to get in touch with them as we get closer to Spring and make definite plans from there. All you collectors mark your calendars!
Thanks for the video - it was fun to see the proud papa and his new machine!
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Post# 8512-11/5/2001-07:28 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Get down!)
MESSAGE: Well, I should dig up some pics of our kitchen back then. Candystripe wallpaper, wild primary color carpet, orange drapes and coppertone appliances. We had a metal & formica dining set with bright red vinyl covered chairs - made your head spin from the busy prints and colors.
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Post# 8513-11/5/2001-07:30 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (soft soap)
MESSAGE: Anthony, Not to mention that the soap that used to be used for laundry would almost take a layer of skin off your hands, especially if you had to do laundry by hand, like some poorer women had to do back in the 20s, 30s and 40s. It was often lye soap, much stronger than what Greg is trying to use now.
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Post# 8514-11/5/2001-07:39 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (What about Ariel?)
MESSAGE: That's what's known as breaking the water and yes, if you are using soap it is very important to do that before adding the soap.
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Post# 8515-11/5/2001-07:43 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (What about Ariel?)
MESSAGE: STPP also has a good "wetting effect" to make the detergent solution penetrate soils, even oily soils. Calgon does not do this as well as STPP.
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Post# 8516-11/5/2001-07:44 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Laundry Queen Washer? (BEAM)
MESSAGE: Robert, I was stinking the same thing. Those ads often featured machines like the Coronado and the One Minute.
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Post# 8517-11/5/2001-07:48 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (HEB Bravo)
MESSAGE: That would be as bad as the lady who was in the hospital for hemorrhoid surgery with the name Fannie Hertz.
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Post# 8518-11/5/2001-07:50 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (Lye Soap)
MESSAGE: My grandmother used to make it when I was really little. I remember being bathed in lye soap. That's all she had. Talk about country living.
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Post# 8519-11/5/2001-08:57 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Glad to see you and Mike back!)
MESSAGE: Hi Louis, I meant that your ISP receives its information via a satellite and then turns around and sends it to you via a wire. I didn't think European ISP's would count on a transatlantic cable to connect to servers overseas, but ya never know.
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Post# 8520-11/5/2001-09:01 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Get down!)
MESSAGE: Ya know what Greg, that gives me an idea. We should have a blast from our past week, everone should dig up a few old photos of the house(s) they grew up in and scan, post them for everyone. Who's in?
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Post# 8521-11/5/2001-09:15 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (What about Ariel?)
MESSAGE: Hogwash! I've yet to hear of anyone finding the baja espuma formula in the USA. Just use less and you will be fine.
Zeolites are a refined volcanic product that softens water and absorbs odors. You can buy mesh bags of the stuff to put in musty places to absorb odors, then put the bags in the sunshine to "recharge" them, letting the musties gas out.
-ph
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Post# 8522-11/5/2001-09:19 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (HE detergent)
MESSAGE: More hogwash! Ever since there have been soaps, detergents and front loading washers, they have all recommended using less to achieve respectable results. Again, it depends on your load size, soil level and water softness. It'll take some experimenting, but you'll come up with your own combinations and measurements. Some people are chemically inclined to clean their wash; I rather let the mechanical action do the work.
(Boy! That should rattle the natives!)
-ph
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Post# 8523-11/5/2001-09:21 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (What about Ariel?)
MESSAGE: Moderation is the key, my friend! Use the Praci-taza and you'll be in big trouble! Up to the first line on a standard P&G scoop is just right for my 1-18 loads.
-ph
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Post# 8524-11/5/2001-09:26 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (What about Ariel?)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the info. I was actually referring to a comment that said that STPP should be added to the water before the detergent. That's a bit more complicated with a front loader as you can't just put it in the detergent drawer.
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Post# 8525-11/5/2001-09:30 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (Hogwash)
MESSAGE: Well, everyone should do what works for them. This native's experience is that my hogs get dingy over time if I don't use a regular amount of detergent. It really isn't possible to replace chemical action with mechanical - you need both. Mechanical action just can't break the chemical bonds of many stains (well, maybe with scissors). You can't give up mechanical action either, though.
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Post# 8526-11/5/2001-09:31 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD
MESSAGE: Ed, talk about retro for sure!!! I remember similiar "sets" for other scenarios. And I know this is a "showcase", but can one imagine having such a fine kitchen back then and A PORTABLE DISHWASHER!!! I mean REALLLLLLY!!!!
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Post# 8527-11/5/2001-09:33 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Get down!)
MESSAGE: Well Ed, you would havew loeved our lake house's neighbors house--orange countertops and avocado appliances that included a KDI16 or KDI17 as well as an avocado Corning smoothtop range and patterned avocado vynil kitchen floor.
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Post# 8528-11/5/2001-09:41 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Jetcone Gets a Control Tower
MESSAGE: Count me in for sure...
Robert, you might want to think about getting a Craters & Frieghters franchise and run it out of your garage...
-ph
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Post# 8529-11/5/2001-10:08 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD
MESSAGE: Just make sure that the red, white and blue Yankee Doodle Hotpoint kitchen from that 1974 (?) calendar comes up on July 4th!
-ph
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Post# 8530-11/5/2001-10:40 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Jetcone Gets a Control Tower
MESSAGE: Like a scene from Fiddler on the Roof! Skipping thru the fields holding hands! Push, Jon, push! And then they just leave it there all lonely for the '61 and the '56! No, no, don't go!
-ph
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Post# 8531-11/5/2001-10:45 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (HE detergent)
MESSAGE: I agree Peter, I'm not too comfortable with having my wash cleaned chemically as opposed to mechanically. Maybe I'm just old fashioned, but I interested to see the long term effects on the durability of our clothes.
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Post# 8532-11/5/2001-10:48 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Jetcone Gets a Control Tower
MESSAGE: I have lots more footage from that farm trip if you guys are interested in seeing more, as well as video taken during the Minneapolis Wash-In Convention '97. By the way, the unseen person who speaking in that video while he was filming was Robert Stokes (Syndets2000).
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Post# 8533-11/5/2001-11:12 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Get down!)
MESSAGE: Absolutely!
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Post# 8534-11/5/2001-11:22 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (HE detergent)
MESSAGE: Saturday night, Bob (via telephone) and I did a couple of loads of wash. Aside from the Solo disaster in the 1-18, the white load I did in the 3-ring washer came out wonderful. I (we) chose a vintag Axion pre-soak and then washing with Wisk tabs, LaFrance and of course, STPP added to soften the water before adding all the other chemicals. That was one of the cleanest batch of socks and kitchen towels I've had in a long time. I have to beleive that it was a correct balance of mechanical action and chemical action and of course, love of laundry!
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Post# 8535-11/5/2001-11:39 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (Lye Soap)
MESSAGE: I am a bit puzzled by the term, "lye soap". Technically speaking, most soap is made from the reaction between lye (sodium hyrdroxide) and fat. The trick is to have the proportions correct so that all the fat is coverted to soap without lye being left behind. Further processing can further purify the product, such as Ivory soap, which not only has residual alkali removed, but also the glycerin, so it can be more drying than homemade soap. Pot ash (or potash), or potassium hydroxide, was also used to make soap - it yeilds a softer, almost liquid soap. Back in colonial days, soap was made from ash and the soap was liquid. It took a bit of industrialization to make lye and hence hard soap, which was at first imported into the American colonies.
Back in my organic chemistry class, our first lab was to make soap. I wish I remembered more of it. At the time, I found it extremely boring.
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Post# 8536-11/5/2001-11:45 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (What about Ariel?)
MESSAGE: You can just put the STPP in the detergent tray. When the washer has finished filling with water, pause it, then open the door and add the detergent. Yes it's a hassle, which is why I suppose some euro machines may have separate water softener additive trays (or they should).
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Post# 8537-11/5/2001-11:45 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (Lye Soap)
MESSAGE: There was an old song on a Jerry Handley record Called "It's in the Book," about Grandma's Lye Soap and one of the verses went like this:
Little Herman and brother Thurman
Had an aversion to washing their ears
Grandma scrubbed 'em with the lye soap
And they haven't heard a word in years!
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Post# 8538-11/5/2001-11:48 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (Hogwash)
MESSAGE: The problem is that people insist on correlating the amount of suds with cleaning. This leads to high sudsing detergent formulations for top loaders. A front loader's action causes much more sudsing than a top loader, and hence the recoommendation to just add less detergent. For heavily soiled loads, this will lead to inferior cleaning. There is a limit to how much you can substitute thermal or mechanical energy for chemical activity. If the soil just gets redeposited back on the clothes, because there's not enough detergent added, then no amount of thermal or mechanical energy will compensate.
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Post# 8539-11/5/2001-11:54 ||| Lenny (Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT:
Popped Atlantis Top!
MESSAGE: After trying to take the front off of my MAV8600 Atlantis this Sunday, I discovered that once you pop the top, you have to use a metric screwdriver to get off the screws that release the front panel. Ill have to buy one of those. I did try a small 'allen' bit and a small 'phillips' head but they did'nt even begin to work.
Anyway, while I had the top popped, I noticed that it VERY EASILY tilts backward on plastic hinges. There are only two small metal tension clips that are easily removed from the front panel top which holds the console top in place. I just took them out and now I can just tilt the Atlantis top back when I want to watch her work. Since her lid is down and the lid switch is activated, all functions operate with the top tilted back. Is this a concern to view the machine in action this way other than the obvious of water splashing on wires which it really does not. If so, I will reinstall the console clips. Also, I havent noticed ANY extra vibrations or sounds with the clips off. Is this OK to do? Curious.
Lenny
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Post# 8540-11/5/2001-11:58 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (HE detergent)
MESSAGE: But Peter, if you oversuds a tumbler you lose the mechanical action. It is very difficult to get the proportion just right every time to use a regular sudsing detergent in a FL without without a suds up occasionaly. Also too many suds can make rinsing suffer. FL manuals are full of warnings like this. Now, it might be that in the huge machines and large loads of dirty clothes in your mat that oversudsing is less frequent than in a home machine, but it happens easily and can happen even with low sudsers in FLs if the load is smaller than usual or lightly soiled or synthetic rugs, etc. Then you can have suds up the window and sometimes a flood. The people who mostly get away with this are heavy users of fabric softeners which keep foam down in the wash from the heavy film on the clothes.
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Post# 8541-11/5/2001-12:06 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (Lye Soap)
MESSAGE: Let me just say that however many ways soaps are similar, you don't want to bathe much with lye soap. It is powerful stuff, made for laundry, greasy pans and floors. Over time, it would bleach floors to almost white.
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Post# 8542-11/5/2001-12:08 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (What about Ariel?)
MESSAGE: Many of the Euro FLs don't allow you to open the door once the water level switch has electrically locked it. You most probably would not be using soap in a FL anyway so adding the STTP and the detergent together would not pose a problem.
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Post# 8543-11/5/2001-12:23 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Popped Atlantis Top!
MESSAGE: Sorry, I don't recall if you have a camera, but take some pics if you do!
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Post# 8544-11/5/2001-12:24 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
Sir Frigmore update
MESSAGE: UPDATE! I'm not getting that Frigidaire. I talked to the sales guy today and he mysteriously decided to sell the machine for $600. While that's $50 less than the Kenmore 41042 (which I ordered), that really pisses me off. If any appliance salesmen are on this board and you pull crap like that, you need to rethink your strategy. Granted, he might have made a mistake but if he quoted me at $500, that's what he should sell it for.
Anyway, the Kenmore 41042 is coming tomorrow. I guess this is OK because I'm getting a 1050rpm spin instead of 950.
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Post# 8545-11/5/2001-12:41 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore update
MESSAGE: You could try taking that to your local Better Business Bureau and your state department of Consumer Affairs (if LA has one!). It sounds like a classic bait-and-switch tactic, which is highly illegal here in CA and should be in LA also. Unfortunately, all you probably have is his verbal committment. If you had the $500 offer in writing, then you'd have a much easier case to win.
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Post# 8546-11/5/2001-12:43 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (Lye Soap)
MESSAGE: That means to me that it has an over-abundance of lye added to the fat, and leftover lye in the final product. That would be nasty stuff.
Technically speaking, the extra harshness would come from the residual lye, not from the soap itself.
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Post# 8547-11/5/2001-12:45 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (What about Ariel?)
MESSAGE: I think my mom made her own soap once and tried using it in the Bendix. Suds ahoy! I remember suds flowing out of all the Bendix's orifices and Mom in a panic.
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Post# 8548-11/5/2001-12:47 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (Suds ahoy)
MESSAGE: What is it about FL's that create so much suds?
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Post# 8549-11/5/2001-12:51 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore update (BBB)
MESSAGE: I'm definately going to contact the BBB about it. I don't know if that will help, but we'll see. The sales-scum wasn't even apologetic at all for the mistake. He was as cold as can be about it. Well, heck with him and his little appliance store and I hope he never sells the machine.
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Post# 8550-11/5/2001-13:24 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Popped Atlantis Top!
MESSAGE: Great Lenny, sounds like fun. It should run just fine like that.
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Post# 8551-11/5/2001-13:28 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore update
MESSAGE: Hey congratulations Jason, I can't wait to see some action videos of your new Kenmore FL.
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Post# 8552-11/5/2001-13:42 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (Lye Soap)
MESSAGE: Of course that's what makes lye soap harsh. You obviously have not had an encounter with the stuff. It packs a lot of punch. There are those who will swear it will heat water just by being in contact with it, another sign of a strong caustic.
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Post# 8553-11/5/2001-13:46 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (HEB Bravo)
MESSAGE: Even better and this is real.. one of my partners at the frim - - Dick Smallwood..............
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Post# 8554-11/5/2001-13:47 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (What about Ariel?)
MESSAGE: If you read a later post, I commented that I was beginning to think that Ariel bajaespuma was a figment of my imagination............
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Post# 8555-11/5/2001-13:48 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (HE detergent)
MESSAGE: Yawn............
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Post# 8556-11/5/2001-13:50 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (What about Ariel?)
MESSAGE: I have never even seen a practi-taza - much less use one. I believe that is a figment of the imagination like bajaespuma Ariel...........
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Post# 8557-11/5/2001-14:27 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (chemical vs. mechanical)
MESSAGE: I thought I would just have to add my 2-cents to this discussion to complicate matters:
In my humble opinion, you are both right!
While it's true that you do need to add enough detergent to "hold" the dirt so it doesn't redeposit on clothes, I also feel most detergent manufacturers advise you to add more detergent than you may need.
Yep, you have to take into account hardness of water and degree of soil on your laundry. And so detergent makers give you the max amounts to use, because most people have no idea about their water hardness or how dirty their clothes are, or even how to do laundry to begin with.
Most of the laundry I do is not that dirty. I usually use towels only once, change linens every week, and wear clothing one time. Since my son is in college now and not playing football, his laundry is even less soiled than mine. (I think he changes clothes every few hours!)
I often use regular powered Tide or Cheer in my front loader and get excellent results. I use about half of the scoop...at the first line that says "normal load." This produces minimal or no suds for most loads. (I always use an HE detergent when doing a load of towels, however.) Now this is a reduced amount from what most folks would put in their top loaders, because they just fill the scoop and dump. So cutting down and using half a scoop puts me just where the detergent maker actually advises a normal load should be.
I may be wrong, but I have to think that the concentration of the detergent/water solution has to play a role too. Just as the manufacturer suggests rubbing a paste of Tide W/Bleach directly onto a stain (which I've gotten excellent results from), the greater concentration of detergent and its cleaning agents, has to make a difference in loosing stains and deeply embedded dirt.
I also think the mechanical action of the front loader is superior to agitator action and increases the effectiveness of the water/detergent solution.
I feel this amount of detergent I use is just right for my needs, because of the level of soil on most of my laundry. If I ever go to work in auto repair or at the land-fills, I'll have to re-think this strategy.
I'm also SURE that, regardless of which detergent theory you follow, every member of this club produces cleaner laundry than just about anyone else around.
;-)
Rich
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Post# 8558-11/5/2001-14:32 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (FL suds)
MESSAGE: Jason,
As far as I can figure, a front loader's action produces more suds because the tumbling tends to be more of a whipping action than a top loader, which is more of a stirring action. It's all about incorporating air, and the front loader, by using a smaller amount of water and folding the water and air over each other, tends to incorporate more air into the mixture. If you've ever tried to whip cream or bake a cake from scratch using beaten egg whites, you'll see the connection. Or, consider a jar full of water with some soap. If you put the lid on and shake it, that's like a front loader. If you take the lid off and stir it, that's more like a top loader.
Now I'm hungry.
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Post# 8559-11/5/2001-14:36 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (too many suds)
MESSAGE: Hi Tom
Good point....but I also must say that I think many "regular" detergents are formulated to produce less suds today than they were before. You know, all the talk about Fab powder and Surf tablets being low-sudsing, even though they are not billed as "HE". (I like the Surf tablets...they produce no suds...Tide HE can't claim that!)
I don't think regular Tide produces that many suds....certainly not as many as the Tide they had around when I was kid. There was no way you could even put half the recommended amount in a front loader and get away with it. They said to have the suds halfway up the window...by then you would have greatly reduced the washing action.
I wonder if eventually all detergents will be "HE" compatible.
Rich
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Post# 8560-11/5/2001-14:42 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore update
MESSAGE: Of course you don't have anything in writing from him, right? Were there any witnesses? A verbal contract is binding.
Oh well, you're getting an even better machine - I'm sure you'll be even happier with it.
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Post# 8561-11/5/2001-14:43 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (chemical vs. mechanical)
MESSAGE: I posted this a while ago.
I recall an article in the Houston Chronicle (consumer information feature story, I suppose) many years ago, warning that the manfacturer dosage of many detergents (Tide was mentioned in particular) is much more than necessary. The article said to go by the slippery-water test, and that even as little as 1/8 cup may be sufficient.
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Post# 8562-11/5/2001-14:45 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (Suds ahoy)
MESSAGE: Higher concentrations I would guess as one thing. Also, the motion of top loaders is mostly under water, while in a front loader it forces clothes and the vanes to break the surface. This forces air into the water kind of like wisking egg whites.
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Post# 8563-11/5/2001-14:54 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (too many suds)
MESSAGE: While neither Fab nor Surf tablets has the HE symbol, both actually say you can use them in front loaders. Surf uses the term "HE", Fab just says front loaders. In both cases its on the back of the box in not very large print.
I tried Fab for the first time yesterday (the Rainforest scent). It sudses less than Tide HE. Smelled pretty good too and seemed to clean ok (we'll see more over time).
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Post# 8564-11/5/2001-15:03 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (chemical vs. mechanical)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the good summation, Rich.
I have also never seen a Practitaza, but I wonder if the scoope that comes in the box of Tide HE is the same thing. In any case, the Tide HE powder box instructions seem to be pretty much in line with what we are saying. That is, to add less for small or lightly soiled loads, to add more for large heavily soiled loads. I believe it also mentions hard water, but I don't have the box handy at the moment.
I agree that concentration must make some difference, but I also think pretreating with a paste amplifies concentration effects by several orders of magnitude - far beyond what the increased concentration in a fl vs a tl would do.
HE detergents, in addition to being low sudsing, also offer another advantage over regular detergents. According to the manufacturers, the HE formula is supposed to minimize dye transfer between fabrics. This dye transfer is more likely in an HE washer due to the ... guess ... reduced water amounts and the higher concentration of released dye in the wash water. Just how the HE detergent formulations are supposed to reduce that dye transfer, I'm not sure. But it might be some weird additive like polyvinylpyrdine. See link...
Also, another link suggests that enzymes may be used to limit dye transfer, such as "Guardase", which is a type of peroxidase.
LINK: http://www.reillyind.com/preleases/reilly_isp.htm
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Post# 8565-11/5/2001-15:18 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
Fugitive Dye Molecules
MESSAGE: Read all about it!!!
LINK: http://pubs.acs.org/cen/coverstory/7903/7903prod2.html
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Post# 8566-11/5/2001-15:34 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Fugitive Dye Molecules
MESSAGE: Keith Grime, P&G's R&D manager for fabric care? Hahahahaha!
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Post# 8567-11/5/2001-15:35 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Fugitive Dye Molecules (Grime is no crime)
MESSAGE: Yes, I noticed that... hehehe...
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Post# 8568-11/5/2001-15:48 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Fugitive Dye Molecules (extra! extra!)
MESSAGE: Hi Spam Rich
Thanks for the link...very interesting article.
But they say Tide is the first to put laundry tablets on the retail shelves in the U.S. Wrong. The writers are too young to remember, and did not do their research, because they didn't mention the Salvo tablets my mom used in her Westy Laundromat in the 60's. There was also a brand named Vim during this period. Yeah... just like Maytag likes to say that they invented the front loading washer!
I see the Tide (Wear Care) that I use has imidazole derivatives to fix the dye in fabrics. Since I'm using the recommended amount, I would think that it would prevent dye transfer in my front loader. Unless the lesser water usage comes into play in the calculation, and the full measure of an HE detergent is needed to correct it. The debate goes on...
Go Rich
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Post# 8569-11/5/2001-15:57 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore update (videos)
MESSAGE: Oh yeah. I'm going to make lots of stills and videos of Sir Kenneth Fridgemore. Just think, 90 rpms shy of a Unimatic.
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Post# 8570-11/5/2001-15:58 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (Fab rain forest)
MESSAGE: And it's off to Wal-Mart for Fab Rain Forest Powder. If only there was M S Tide in HE version.
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Post# 8571-11/5/2001-16:42 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
A song parody for Uni
MESSAGE: Here we go.. To the tune of "Polk Salad Annie" by
Tony Joe White.
(spoken) For those of you who never been up north, I'm
gonna explain it to you so you know what I'm talking
about. Th'used to be an old washing machine made in
the 50s made by Frigidaire. Everybody called it
Unimatic. That's Uni.... Ma-tic. There's a boy that
goes out in the graveyards pick one up take it home
and restore it for all to see. He did all right
Up north in Minnesota
where the cold can be so mean
Lives a man that I swear to the world
likes to keep his laundry clean
Robert Unimatic
don't give you no static
Everybody says that he's the man
Cause he gets his old machines any way he can
Whenever it's time for laundry day
He goes down into the basement
Loads up the Unimatics
And watches those agitators pulsate
Robert Unimatic
got toys in the attic
Everybody says that he's the man
Cause he gets his old machines any way he can
(spoken) a green 1958 pulsatin' Frigidaire.. Lord have
mercy.
Sock a load of laundry to me
You know I need to wash it up.
ooh yeah.. good god...
You know I got to have me a Unimatic
have mercy...
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Post# 8572-11/5/2001-16:57 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Fugitive Dye Molecules (extra! extra!)
MESSAGE: Yeah, they are wrong about the tablets, must be some MBA fresh out of grad school, LOL.
My Tide HE has "Wear Care" as well. I like the soft feel that Tide HE give clothes, although I suspect it's due to some additive like a built-in fabric softener.
I am wondering if many of these complex and expensive additives are among the many side effects of banning multi-talented polyphosphates. I also surmise that the detergent ingredient industry could care less about the ban on phosphates, as it gives them a chance to incorporate a whole host of new laundry detergent additives, for greater profits. These expensive new additives may help explain why HE detergents like Tide are high priced.
I don't know if polyphosphates combat fugitive dye molecules, though. I haven't noticed any dye transfer going on, except with one dark blue cotton bath rug from India, which bleeds so readily it turned some of the porcelain inside the Neptune dryer blue!
It's also interesting that some of the stuff used to combat fugitive dye molecules can also encourage the setting of stains. It is a most imperfect world.
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Post# 8573-11/5/2001-17:00 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore update (videos)
MESSAGE: Jason,
Have you considered one of the Avanti front loaders? There's one at Western Appliance, about the size of a Bosch, but only about $400. No internal heater but it's a compact and attractive unit. It might be better for your trailer floor than a Frigmore or other super capacity front loader.
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Post# 8574-11/5/2001-17:04 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Fugitive Dye Molecules (Blue dryer drums...)
MESSAGE: My DC Maytag was the same finish (not porcelain, essentially just paint) and it turned a lovely shade of smeared blue from jeans and the like.
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Post# 8575-11/5/2001-17:51 ||| bk1770 (quincy,ma)
SUBJECT:
jason song
MESSAGE: I like the song from jason to uni.
I am not good at poems, you did well.
FRIDGIDAIRE'S for ever!
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Post# 8576-11/5/2001-17:58 ||| bk1770 (quincy,ma)
SUBJECT:
on line chat
MESSAGE: I tried to chat with other members the othe day and could not
figue out how to respond. The box came up to respond but I
could not get my cursor to move to box. I am on earthlink,
does that make any difference. I am still learning about
computers. Also do I need to download different software
to view video? I was not able to get it the other day.
Sorry to ramble, thanks
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Post# 8577-11/5/2001-18:17 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: on line chat
MESSAGE: Hey, yes, I was in chat when you were trying. Saw you sign in several times. I've noticed it sometimes takes quite a bit to load, so maybe you just weren't waiting long enough for the page to load. At the bottom of the window there is an area to enter text. You should be able to move your cursor there, type text and hit enter to display it. I noticed you were able to do something (namely double click on a name - which takes you to private chat - you opened private windows with me several times).
I hope you have better luck with it next time and we can actually talk.
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Post# 8578-11/5/2001-18:21 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: on line chat
MESSAGE: The text area is the white area under the window - type there and hit enter. Perhaps you were trying to place your cursor in the gray area. The white area is for typing of text, there is no typing in the gray area.
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Post# 8579-11/5/2001-18:39 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Fugitive Dye Molecules (Blue dryer drums...)
MESSAGE: Well, the fixed portions of the dryer interior look like they are porcelain enamel finished. The moving part of the drum itself looks like paint. Oddly, the fixed porcelain portions are much more stained than the movable painted.
I may be wrong, it may all be paint. Even the term "enamel" has multiple meanings. But I think porcelain finish generally means a glazed (glass) finish. I'm unwilling to take a hammer to it to confirm this.
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Post# 8580-11/5/2001-19:14 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (chemical vs. mechanical)
MESSAGE: I remember something form Consumer Reports in the early 70's. They tested several brands, powder and liquid. So I assume that included Tide, Wisk, Cheer, and one or two Colgate products - FAB and Cold Power, I think. I unfortunately do not recall the exact measurements they determined optimal. But I recalll that the recommended dosage was way too much and 1/8 cup was probably too little. Wish I could remember the issue...............
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Post# 8581-11/5/2001-19:16 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (too many suds)
MESSAGE: Lucky dogs - Fab powders are no longer available in the Northeast ( well, at least in the NY and Connecticut areas). Apparently more people around here prefer the "convenience" of liquids........
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Post# 8582-11/5/2001-19:18 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (chemical vs. mechanical)
MESSAGE: Interesting point on the HE detergents and dye transfer, Rich - I was not aware of that and it is important for me since I have a variety of bright colors in the wardrobe.......
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Post# 8583-11/5/2001-19:20 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Fugitive Dye Molecules (extra! extra!)
MESSAGE: Funny , I also remember Salvo and Vim tablets. A box of each was up for bid on ebay recently and sold for a handsome price......
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Post# 8584-11/5/2001-19:22 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (Fab rain forest)
MESSAGE: Jason - are you more partialto the powder or liquid Tide MS? I ask because I think the liquid smells way too strong even after 2 rinses and line drying. The powder on the other hand, leaves only a slight scent behind - - much more appealing. Sorry, I know there are folks who revile Tide MS fragrance..........
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Post# 8585-11/5/2001-19:52 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: jason song (thanks)
MESSAGE: It's an oldie from the 60s. You can find it on any mp3 search like Morpheus or WinMX.
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Post# 8586-11/5/2001-19:55 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (MSTide)
MESSAGE: I like the powder version. The liquid is too strong. I just picked up my Fab Rain Forest today so I can use my Frigemore tomorrow.
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Post# 8587-11/5/2001-20:37 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Fugitive Dye Molecules (Blue dryer drums...)
MESSAGE: Yes, a hammer would be a bad idea on any surface of a loved machine. Do you love the dryer otherwise? I always thought it was a fine performer, fast and accurate.
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Post# 8588-11/5/2001-20:39 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (MSTide)
MESSAGE: Remember, we want lots of video. I've never seen one of these in action!
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Post# 8589-11/5/2001-20:45 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
A Tribute To Whirly: His last night
MESSAGE: Whirly began to suspect something Saturday night. I didn't put my clothes in him like I usually do when I change. He also saw me measuring the laundry space. For what he didn't know. I logged onto www.spinandtumble.com to listen to the presentation (and the high-speed spin). Whirly also heard it and got very suspicious of my actions. He also heard when I confirmed the delivery. When I said "washer" he put 2+2 together. Although washers can't talk or show you their feelings, like cars, they telepathically communicate. They tell you when they're happy, sad, angry, etc. They have a personality. All day today, the laundry room is filled with an aura of sadness, hopelessness, fear, but never hate. How do you hate someone that rescues you, restores you and makes you useful again? He understands what getting a Fridgemore means to me and if it means his life, he's all for it. Ever get dumped by a lover? That's how Whirly feels. I went in the laundry room, turned on the light and asked Whirly if he wanted to do one more spin-drain before he leaves. He didn't want to. He'll get a home I promised him and myself that. He's not going in the truck to the Krusher. I'll find a way for him to go somewhere where he'll be loved. In a weird kind of way, I'm going to miss Whirly. I know I'm getting a much better washer but all this is giving me this creepy Deja Vu feeling that I remember having when my mom put the Kenmore 800 outside and eventually in the delivery truck. More than likely, Kenmore800 has long since been crushed. Same with my grandma's early 60s Kenmore.
Yes, it will be soon time to say Goodbye to Whirly, my first washer (I've owned) and a darn good friend. Countless times, I'd come home stressed out from work and I washed a load just to relieve that stress.
Dramatic, aren't I? SHEESH!
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Post# 8590-11/5/2001-20:46 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (Yep)
MESSAGE: Oh yeah. I'm going to take pictures and video
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Post# 8591-11/5/2001-21:51 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Fugitive Dye Molecules (Blue dryer drums...)
MESSAGE: I like the Neptune dryer, it's a fine performer, better than the WCI it replaced. However, it's also noisier, which is a drawback because here it's installed in a laundry nook that is adjacent to the kitchen/tv/family room area where I spend a lot of time. Well, can't have everything.
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Post# 8592-11/5/2001-23:05 ||| bk1770 (quincy,ma)
SUBJECT:
calypso washer
MESSAGE: does anyone know how to overide the lid switch on these?
I'm dying to see this thing work. I bought it about 8mos
ago. The washer sounds great though. Reminds me sometimes
of the old rollermatics.
thanks
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Post# 8593-11/6/2001-05:26 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (Excessive recommended dosages)
MESSAGE: Amen to that.
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Post# 8594-11/6/2001-05:33 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (FL Suds)
MESSAGE: The action in a front loader constantly breaks the surface of the water, incorporating air into the detergent water solution, making bubbles. Many toploaders do not agitate the surface of the water that much.
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Post# 8595-11/6/2001-05:52 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (MSTide)
MESSAGE: Very exciting..just like color TV. I particularly like the reverse tumble. And quiet until the final "fast"spin. Then it sounds like a 747 taking off. Jason- you are one lucky dog...FriGEMore and Rain Forest Fab Powder - -I see lots of colorful Friday nights in your future...........
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Post# 8596-11/6/2001-05:58 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (too many suds)
MESSAGE: Rich, you are right. When they first introduced the concentrated formulas, I could use them in a FL, then they got cheap and started using the less expensive, higher sudsing surfactants, but they still suds less than the old formulas. The other factor is that most FLs today fill with far less water than the old 3 belt Westinghouse washers which had 4-6 inches of water in the drum and produced more of a rolling than a tossing type tumble. I had a chance to use an old WH a few years ago and even at minimum, unless you put in a huge load, the water was awfully deep, so for wash, I would let it fill until the clothes were falling from the top of the drum and then I shut off the water. After 10 minutes, I advanced the timer to drain and turned the water back on to let it complete the cycle. The water in the Bendix Duomatic was not as deep as in the straight front WH machines. Of course, WH needed more water to rinse since they didn't spin between the rinses like the Bendix and with a water level switch that did not allow for shallower washes and deeper rinses, you got deep everything.
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Post# 8597-11/6/2001-06:16 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (too many suds)
MESSAGE: Funny thing about the Surf tablets; the small box (28 load size) mentions HE machines. The large box does not say anything about it anywhere. Yesterday, I went grocery stealing, which is what I call it when I get great coupon deals. At Target, they had the small Surf tablets, 2 boxes for $8, but they also had the large size which is 40 loads and a bonus upsize with it, 12% more or 5 extra loads. This was only in the green package with active oxygen. It was $5 something, but seemed like a good deal, especially with my $1.50 off coupon. The had my 30 load Wisk tablets for $5.99 and I had a coupon good for up to $6 for a free box. They had a 24 load box of Purex tablets for $2.99 and I had a 35 cents off coupon as well as three coupons for a dollar off each pack of batteries I bought. So I get to the check out and the big thing of Surf scans for $4.00! I should have gone back for more. The $25.25 in merchandise had coupon values of $10.84 plus the nice surprise with the extra discount on the Surf. A very successful shopping excursion, I would say. If Anthony had been there we would have not been able to contain ourselves at the register.
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Post# 8598-11/6/2001-06:22 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (chemical vs. mechanical)
MESSAGE: I wash smaller loads in the Euro babies and have never used as much Tide HE as they say to use, but I do use Calgon in the water so I do not have to use the extra detergent to get the water softening, just enough to get the enzymes and surfactants. Everything gets clean. Of course, whites get higher temps than most domestic machines offer, which maybe is another reason I can get by with using less. I ordered 25 lbs. of sodium tripolyphosphate yesterday. I guess it is STPP. Remeber STP oil treatment? Maybe with the extra P this supercharges voiding?
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Post# 8599-11/6/2001-06:26 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: A song parody for Uni
MESSAGE: You're mighty young to remember that song or do you listen to an oldies station? Great talent with lyrics.
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Post# 8600-11/6/2001-06:31 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Fugitive Dye Molecules (extra! extra!)
MESSAGE: Ricardo, you are absolutely right about the appearance of clothes before and after the phosphate ban. Consumers noticed signs of increased wear on the clothes, although most of it was just the appearance of wear because of the film left on the garments from poor washing and rinsing when people thought they could use as little of the non phos formulas as they could the phosphated ones. The newer builders were not as efficient as phosphates and it took a while to change people's ways.
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Post# 8601-11/6/2001-06:37 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Fugitive Dye Molecules (No more porcelain)
MESSAGE: There are no more porcelain dryer drums or interior parts. GE was about the last to use them and it has been years. They are mostly epoxy finishes now, if not stainless steel; not sure if any galvanized ones are left somewhere. The stationary part would stain more because the clothes rub across it instead of traveling with it like the moving part of the drum.
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Post# 8602-11/6/2001-06:48 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Tribute To Whirly: His last night
MESSAGE: But Jason, just think that now when you want to watch a load, you can put a blanket or quilt and pillow on the floor and recline while watching for an even more restful experience. You are not overly dramatic. The joy at the acquisition of a new appliance was, in most cases, think the Maytag A502, tempered by the loss of the old one, except that by then I had mostly gotten all of the experience from them that I was gonna, sort of "been there done that." I remember when we decided to buy the new house in 67 and I was sad at the thought of leaving the 40" GE stove behind even though we had a beautiful GE oven and cooktop in the new house. I had worked hard to get that electric stove in the house.
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Post# 8603-11/6/2001-06:52 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (MSTide)
MESSAGE: Be careful, Jason, this could interfere with dating. It is sort of like cocooning.
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Post# 8604-11/6/2001-06:59 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: on line chat (Windows Media Player 7.1)
MESSAGE: Hi Bruce, in order to view those videos you need to use Windows Media Player 7 or greater. You can download that for free, click on the link below. Select Windows Media Player 7.1 from the list that comes up. Let us know if it works.
LINK: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/search.asp
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Post# 8605-11/6/2001-07:00 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Tribute To Whirly: His last night
MESSAGE: Just what did you do so that there was a need for a new Range?
Somehow I imagine sparks coming from the poor thing.....
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Post# 8606-11/6/2001-07:00 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: A song parody for Uni
MESSAGE: Ahhh very cute Jason. I'll have to go onto Bearshare and download that song.
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Post# 8607-11/6/2001-07:04 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Tribute To Whirly: His last night
MESSAGE: Love 'em and leave 'em huh?
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Post# 8608-11/6/2001-07:10 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Tribute To Whirly: His last night
MESSAGE: Or maybe he poured iced-tea into the oven, through the oven floor, which eventually ended up onto the kitchen floor as gunky brown water. The he called his mother over and said, "look ma, the oven's leaking oil, ohhhh nooooo". LOL.
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Post# 8609-11/6/2001-07:48 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: A song parody for Uni (Oldies)
MESSAGE: I have mostly oldies in my cd and mp3 collection. Oldies rule! Polk Salad Annie is one of the funkiest songs I've ever had the pleasure of hearing. I do lean towards the r&b/funk side but I like all the other stuff.. Beatles/Zepplin/Stones, etc.
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Post# 8610-11/6/2001-07:50 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (dating)
MESSAGE: Whatever it takes to get me a woman.
(uuhh.. I just said that to a bunch of gay men LOL)
:-D
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Post# 8611-11/6/2001-07:52 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: A song parody for Uni (Morpheus)
MESSAGE: Yes, get it. It is one of the best classic r&b songs out there. It's a blues style with a very funky drum beat. One of my favorites.
"The did all right"
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Post# 8612-11/6/2001-08:04 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Tribute To Whirly: His last night
MESSAGE: Oh Jason, there was a long campaign to switch from the gas stove to an electric one. My mother inadvertenly placed the idea in my head. There was a Frigidaire contest in the early 60s. You were to take a card that was in a magazine to a Frigidaire dealer to see if you had won a new kitchen and laundry full of appliances. If you did not have a winning card, you were to leave it for a drawing. You were asked to select what appliance you would want. Well, since everyting else was new, when I asked Mom what she would want and read the list, she said a range. A few years earlier, they had almost bought a new Tappan TOL gas range. How glad I was that that fell through. So anyway, Dad took me to Crest Refrigeration, the Frigidaire dealer in Decatur. They were in a little store next to the DeKalb County lock plant. For those too young to know about this, inside this building were huge freezers where people could rent space (frozen food lockers) to store frozen food, like after butchering on a farm. Crest Refrigeration had a couple of cute trucks that were pickups trucks modified to hold builtin appliances at rail level so that as they drove along there were yellow builtin ovens and pink dishwashers cruising along at eye level for other drivers. Well, we did not have the winning ticket for the grand prize, but the dealer took our card for the drawing which we did not win either. My friend Jody and I were working on the stove thing and having GE send literature to his house and stuff. It was February of 1964 when the GE stove was delivered. It was just over 3 years old when we moved in May of 67.
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Post# 8613-11/6/2001-08:05 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Tribute To Whirly: His last night
MESSAGE: Well, I kept getting exposed to new things.
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Post# 8614-11/6/2001-08:08 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Tribute To Whirly: His last night
MESSAGE: Actually when you lit the oven in the old stove, there would be a puddle of condensation that formed on the floor. It was maybe an inch and a half big. It only dripped until the oven warmed up.
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Post# 8615-11/6/2001-08:12 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (dating)
MESSAGE: But Jason, that is what I meant. If you stay home with the washer, how you gonna find anybody, unless you meet someone like in that new Sears appliance commercial or in the detergent aisle. Look for the lady sniffing the different bottles.
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Post# 8616-11/6/2001-08:12 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Tribute To Whirly: His last night
MESSAGE: In a field of flowers, how do you choose just one?
It's impossible...
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Post# 8617-11/6/2001-08:19 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (ah yes)
MESSAGE: I saw that one. WOOHOOO!
"Hey baby, wanna do some laundry tonight?"
"Oh yeah!"
behave
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Post# 8618-11/6/2001-08:32 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Tribute To Whirly: His last night (And furthermore...)
MESSAGE: I can put my box of Dominoes pizza on top of the washer so I can eat my pizza, drink Coke, and watch the washing machine at the same time. Couldn't do that with a T/L.
I know I'm going to enjoy the new washer. But I am going to miss the old one. You get used to your old appliance's look/sounds/actions and then you have to adjust to a whole new set of sounds/actions/looks.
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Post# 8619-11/6/2001-09:14 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (ah yes)
MESSAGE: Better yet, remember the joke about "will you let me put my laundry in your washing machine?"
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Post# 8620-11/6/2001-09:15 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Tribute To Whirly: His last night (And furthermore...)
MESSAGE: could you have both side by side?
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Post# 8621-11/6/2001-09:19 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Tribute To Whirly: His last night (And furthermore...)
MESSAGE: Will you keep your Whirlpool or give it away? Since it still works, maybe someone you know could use it and then you could visit your old friend for a load (of wash) now and then.
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Post# 8622-11/6/2001-09:23 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Tribute To Whirly: His last night (no I can't)
MESSAGE: Unfortunately my laundry room is tiny. Just space for a washer and dryer.
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Post# 8623-11/6/2001-09:24 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Tribute To Whirly: His last night (I'm going to try)
MESSAGE: I'm going to try to give it to somebody who needs it. It's still a good machine.
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Post# 8624-11/6/2001-09:35 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Tribute To Whirly: His last night (having multiple washers)
MESSAGE: Here's a question: What if one day I do get a regular house with a garage to keep a collection of washers. Is it hard to setup the plumbing for the washer (water hoses, drains, etc.). And I'd have to do lots of eletrical work to have some dryers too. What does it take to make a collection room?
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Post# 8625-11/6/2001-09:42 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Tribute To Whirly: His last night (having multiple washers)
MESSAGE: it's easy...as long as you're creative and you know something about plumbing and electrical work.
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Post# 8626-11/6/2001-09:59 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Tribute To Whirly: His last night (no I can't)
MESSAGE: Could you use the dryer elsewhere, like on the porch? It can really lower your utility bills to have the dryer outside the heated/cooled living space because when the dryer is running, it pulls 150 cu ft of air (minimum) out of the house. If this is air you have heated or cooled, it is costing you.
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Post# 8627-11/6/2001-10:00 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Tribute To Whirly: His last night (having multiple washers)
MESSAGE: First you have to be certifiably insane.
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Post# 8628-11/6/2001-10:01 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Tribute To Whirly: His last night (having multiple washers)
MESSAGE: And insane.
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Post# 8629-11/6/2001-10:03 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Tribute To Whirly: His last night (The rust will eat the dryer alive)
MESSAGE: We have rust down here bad. It would eat the dryer alive. I've seen lots of rusted out appliances from being in the garage or in the "wash house" instead of being inside. Otherwise, I'd do it
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Post# 8630-11/6/2001-10:04 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Tribute To Whirly: His last night (No problem)
MESSAGE: Like Napoleon XIV : "They're coming to take me away, ha ha"
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Post# 8631-11/6/2001-10:08 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Tribute To Whirly: His last night (good idea tho)
MESSAGE: My dryer is a energy guzzler. it's like a 70s car, not very efficient. Hopefully the Frigmore will reduce the drying time.
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Post# 8632-11/6/2001-10:14 ||| bk1770 (quincy,ma)
SUBJECT:
RE: on line chat (windows media player 7.1)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the message Uni. I think that I need to upgrade
my system to Windows 98 or better because I have 95
right now. I have a friend who can help.
Still kinda green when it comes to computers
Thanks
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Post# 8633-11/6/2001-10:28 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Tribute To Whirly: His last night (having multiple washers)
MESSAGE: Take my hand precious Lord....lead me home!
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Post# 8634-11/6/2001-10:43 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Tribute To Whirly: His last night (perspective)
MESSAGE: Look, I know women who quilt who go to fabric shops every weekend and purchase hundreds of dollars worth of fabric that may never end up being in a quilt. I know car collectors who pay for offsite storage for 10-20 cars. I know people who collect baseball caps and have them hanging all thru their homes. Thimbles, baseball card, celebrity autographs, books about ancient Roman history, 70's disco dance remixes, radios, Fiesta ware, Princess Di, Coca-Cola, Barbie, on and on... Why should we think collecting washing machines is any different? Please, there's nothing insane about it. Some of us are a bit more enthusiastic than others, some have more room, some of us have a bit more time, some of us have a bit more mechanical talent, some make it a bigger priority. All of us here are in this boat together, and I cannot think of a group I'd rather be with or be associated with!
Thank you very much!
-ph
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Post# 8635-11/6/2001-10:51 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Tribute To Whirly: His last night (having multiple washers)
MESSAGE: No one has ever been able to prove that I am.
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Post# 8636-11/6/2001-10:52 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Tribute To Whirly: His last night (perspective)
MESSAGE: You are home!
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Post# 8637-11/6/2001-11:04 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Tribute To Whirly: His last night (collecting)
MESSAGE: My other collections:
Roller coasters: posters, ride tickets from different parks, mugs from theme parks, buttons, pins, bumper stickers, videos
The 70s : A console stereo (almost restored), 8 track tapes, many LPs and 45s, lava lamps, fiber optic lamp.
MP3's: 10 gigs of them. I sort my songs by decade and the biggest folder on the hard drive is the 70s folder.
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Post# 8638-11/6/2001-11:15 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: on line chat (windows media player 7.1)
MESSAGE: Hi Bruce, try windows media player 6.4 then, it should work on Windows 95 so you can play these special WMV video files.
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Post# 8639-11/6/2001-11:16 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Tribute To Whirly: His last night (collecting)
MESSAGE: I have scores of material in hiding and then there's the collection of vintage kitchen towels, appliance service & sales lit., parts, machines, on and on....
Blissfully certifiable!
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Post# 8640-11/6/2001-11:23 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Tribute To Whirly: His last night (stack 'em)
MESSAGE: Here's an idea, Jason
Get the Frigmore dryer too and stack it over the washer. Then you can put Whirly next to them. Of course, this plan would mean giving away your dryer and would only work if money is no object. :-)
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Post# 8641-11/6/2001-11:24 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (MSTide)
MESSAGE: Yeah, but now when he encounters a girl whose house has the presence of a FLer, there won't be the conflict of interest--he'll be able to devote himself to the girl. Unless, there's a hettie involved.
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Post# 8642-11/6/2001-11:36 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (dating)
MESSAGE: Think of me, I'm not able to get out at night on my own. It's the pits.
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Post# 8643-11/6/2001-11:39 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Get down!)
MESSAGE: OMG!! And I am not able to view the picture!!! Could somebody send it to me?! I'd love to see that picture!! Louis
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Post# 8644-11/6/2001-11:43 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: General Assistance Questions (Glad to see you and Mike back!)
MESSAGE: Robert, yes I know, but Greg was asking something different. BTW, there are cables on the bottom of the ocean, recently a new one was taken in use that lands here quite near. And there were ofcourse telephone cables long before the satelites were launched.
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Post# 8645-11/6/2001-11:46 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Tribute To Whirly: His last night (perspective)
MESSAGE: AMEN Peter!!! You said it perfectly. In fact, it such a succint statement, it's a wash.
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Post# 8646-11/6/2001-11:47 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Tribute To Whirly: His last night (having multiple washers)
MESSAGE: But Jason, we all know the truth. You are insane, just like the rest of us.
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Post# 8647-11/6/2001-11:49 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (What about Ariel?)
MESSAGE: My AEG has a special begin of it's cycles. If you put Calgon in the detergent drawer, it flushes that in first and after five minutes the detergent is added from the dispenser. Unfortunately there is only little water used for adding the detergent so there is always detergent left behind in the drawer. Anyway, the idea was good.
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Post# 8648-11/6/2001-12:04 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Tribute To Whirly: His last night (perspective)
MESSAGE: Peter, you don't have to be insane if you don't want to. Don't feel that lack of a basement or garage is a stumbling block. We are here waiting for you. And besides, just who says all the collectors you cite are sane anyway? Life is too short for sanity and so much more fun without it. Besides when you get a reputation for being only a tiny bit sane, people want you to be on bargaining teams with them. Don't feel attacked by what I said. I meant what I said to Jason in the sense that what he would have to go through would demand a lot so he had better want it more than anything. When some people see all the plumbing and electrical connections, their eyes ask, even if their lips don't, "Are you crazy?" It's better just to have an affirmative answer ready. It saves time and resolves any internal conflict you might have. But then I lived in the South long enough to appreciate the gift of insanity. Maybe you haven't.
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Post# 8649-11/6/2001-12:07 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Tribute To Whirly: His last night (stack 'em)
MESSAGE: EXCELLENT idea. I am all for compromise if it gets me everything I want.
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Post# 8650-11/6/2001-12:43 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Tribute To Whirly: His last night (slight problem)
MESSAGE: the closet in my laundry hole (it's not even a room) would block stacking of anything unless I mutilate some of it. Great idea though and I would do it.
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Post# 8651-11/6/2001-12:46 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Tribute To Whirly: His last night (Insane?)
MESSAGE: Your darn tootin'.
Why grow up? You see all around what "grown ups" do. They destroy, kill, hate, etc.. Children are innocent, all they know if fun, joy, love, laughter. I'm "grown up" 40 hours a week at work. That's 40 hours too much. That's why I love amusement parks so much. it's the "little kid" in me coming out. If I want to stand on a chair and watch the big washing machine run, then I can and will do it.
T- 2 hours and counting.
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Post# 8652-11/6/2001-13:20 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Tribute To Whirly: His last night (Insane?)
MESSAGE: Boy I hope they're on time -- or you WILL be certifiable...
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Post# 8653-11/6/2001-13:34 ||| tucker (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
Site looks great robert.
MESSAGE: I was surfing on ebay and thought you might find these useful. These are supposibly the manuals to 56-58 philco washers.
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1481225281
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Post# 8654-11/6/2001-14:12 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
POD 11/06/01
MESSAGE: Robert, what's up with the POD today. Glenn & I both cant' see anything.
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Post# 8655-11/6/2001-14:18 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD 11/06/01
MESSAGE: Add me to the list.
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Post# 8656-11/6/2001-14:21 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD 11/06/01
MESSAGE: I'd imagine it's broken. Someone must have overloaded it or maybe it has suds lock. I'm sure the repair man will fix it when he has time.
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Post# 8657-11/6/2001-14:22 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Tribute To Whirly: His last night (A Word on Sanity)
MESSAGE: Insane, Never. Some of us might be a bit obsessed, but not insane, there is a big difference. Over the past six years, I have found that people who tell me that my washing machine obsession is a bad/unhealthy thing are generally non-focused, unsuccessful people who's high point of the week is a televison show. Don’t fool yourself, the most successful people in the world are obsessed in whatever they are successful at, you don’t get to be a millionaire on your own without being obsessive in your career. You also cannot achieve being an expert in a subject without some good old-fashioned obsession. Do you think Bill Clinton, George Bush, Sigmund Froid or Martin Luther King weren’t obsessed in their fields, oh pleazzze? Most of us here in Applianceville have a good healthy obsession of appliances and laundry. While its not going to make us millionaires, it’s certainly going to make us happy and that’s what’s most important.
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Post# 8658-11/6/2001-14:26 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD 11/06/01 (Houston We Have A Problem)
MESSAGE: Wooooops something must have gone terribly wrong. We'll I'm at work now, so I can't fix it 'till I get home, hopefully it will be an easy fix for two reasons. First I must go vote for the new mayor of our fair city this evening. Second, Leslie (Magic Clean) is Minneapolis today (YAY) and will be coming over to the washer wonderland tonight.
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Post# 8659-11/6/2001-14:28 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Site looks great robert.
MESSAGE: Thanks for the tip Steve and I'm glad you're enjoying the site.
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Post# 8660-11/6/2001-15:19 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Site looks great robert. (Favorite Searches)
MESSAGE: That is the repair manual for the POD the other day - 56/57 Philco agitator washer. Have you all tried the favorite searches function on Ebay? It's marvelous - cuts checking time in half.
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Post# 8661-11/6/2001-15:52 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Tribute To Whirly: His last night (A Word on Sanity)
MESSAGE: And have exceptionally clean laundry to boot!
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Post# 8662-11/6/2001-16:07 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
OK Guys, An Assignment for Applianceville
MESSAGE: Find this person, bring them to Applianceville...
LINK: http://www.thedailycamera.com/livingarts/homegarden/14pvint.html
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Post# 8663-11/6/2001-16:25 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: OK Guys, An Assignment for Applianceville
MESSAGE: Darn, especially that guy with the 54 Frigidaire pair who has that clearing house of old appliances. Wonder what treasures he has elsewhere!!!!!
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Post# 8664-11/6/2001-17:03 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (MSTide)
MESSAGE: Ok, Step back from the washer. Walk towards the computer and tell us what you think about the new toy.
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Post# 8665-11/6/2001-17:16 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (MSTide)
MESSAGE: Jason, Sears didn't arrive until 4:30 this afternoon. So, he's in the process of hooking it up. Bob. He's got 2 loads he gets to do too.
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Post# 8666-11/6/2001-17:22 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD 11/06/01 (Service Called Paid, BUT...)
MESSAGE: There I just paid a service call to the POD. Its fixed for now, but I see there might be a broader security hole which I will need to spend more time (which I wont have time to do for a few days) on cleaning up the code to prevent this from happening again.
As for the Applianceviller who brought down the POD today (and who also did it a couple of weeks ago too) they will be SLAPPED if they do it again. Yes, the webmaster knows, IP address are a wonderful thing. Play nice now kids.
Of course maybe this is just like Tom pouring water over the tub ring of his mothers Maytag when he was little to get them to buy a new machine. But we will not be buying a new POD, I don't care if it leaks, sparks or doubles the sweltering heat of a southern city in July, we'll be keeping it! LOL!
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Post# 8667-11/6/2001-17:35 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD 11/06/01 (Service Called Paid, BUT...)
MESSAGE: Robert thanks for fixing the problem. I can't believe anyone would hold anything against a poor defenseless little classic deluxe hotpoint dishwasher with double-decker washing.
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Post# 8668-11/6/2001-17:45 ||| JasonL (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
Sir Frigmore is here YAY!
MESSAGE: First impression. WOW! So quiet but where's the water? I did a test spin without any clothes and to quote the sweet old lady in the 1950 Frigidaire commercial "There's hardly a ripple in that glass of water".
Video is being shot as we speak. Stay tuned!
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Post# 8669-11/6/2001-18:00 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore is here YAY!
MESSAGE: Congrats! Will you be handing out cigars?
It's amazing how quiet even the spin is when they're empty.
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Post# 8670-11/6/2001-18:18 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore is here YAY!
MESSAGE: Congratulations Jason, we're all waiting on the edge of our seats!
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Post# 8671-11/6/2001-18:24 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore is here YAY! (review)
MESSAGE: OK. Second Impression. Double wow.
You should see, hear, and feel this 1050rpm. It doesn't really shake the trailer too bad but you can feel the vibration. It's a totally awesome machine. Next review will be how dry the clothes are when they come out.
YAY YAY YAY
Tomturbo, you are so right. It's very soothing to watch the clothes tumble.
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Post# 8672-11/6/2001-18:55 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore is here YAY! (My clothes are DRY!)
MESSAGE: What a difference the 1050rpm spin makes. The dryer is actually beating the washer. Holy cow! With the Whirly, the washer cycle would be over and the dryer would still be running with wet clothes. This is a dream machine for sure.
If you can't get a Unimatic, get a Frigmore. The Kenmore version for the awesome spin
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Post# 8673-11/6/2001-18:56 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore is here YAY! (don't ya love the window?)
MESSAGE: Congratulations, Jason. I know you'll like your Kenmore...I love mine. Sometimes when I get home from a hard day and I'm alone in the house, I put in a load and unwind watching it. I think the FL Kenmore is one of the best machines available on today's market. And, since it has the window, it wins my vote among any of the others. It is so entertaining. Our cat loves to climb up and stick his nose against the glass too.
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Post# 8674-11/6/2001-19:01 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
Window
MESSAGE: I love watching the clothes in the go in the window. Also, I love the way they magically stick to sides of the drum when the spin is starting.
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Post# 8675-11/6/2001-19:01 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore is here YAY!
MESSAGE: Hooray! A new washer can be so much fun - let us know how it handles large items too, but don't push larger things in with your foot like the lady on the Appliance Forum - that's just silly.
Have fun!
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Post# 8676-11/6/2001-19:13 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore is here YAY! (Hmmm)
MESSAGE: I'm going to try my standard comforter. I wonder how well that will work.
How do you wash shoes? I used to wash them in Whirly but I'm sure that's a bad balancing problem with the Fridgemore.
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Post# 8677-11/6/2001-19:23 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore is here YAY! (Hmmm)
MESSAGE: Just throw them in with two or three bath towels. Thew will be fine.
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Post# 8678-11/6/2001-19:55 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore is here YAY! (Hmmm)
MESSAGE: Shoes are fine, but wash them with a normal load of clothes. It does a great job on them - they don't float.
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Post# 8679-11/6/2001-19:57 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore is here YAY! (comforter)
MESSAGE: It handles my think standard size comforter just fine. When it's in, I can easily put my hand through the top of the drum which means it's not overloaded. It balances pretty good on the spins.
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Post# 8680-11/6/2001-20:08 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: OK Guys, An Assignment for Applianceville (He'll be here soon.....)
MESSAGE: I called on a hunch and caught Jim at home, told him about us and our club. He was glad to hear of us here and will hopefully joining us in Applianceville soon!
BTW: I think we'll have another soul interested in visiting the appliance burial ground in Aberdeen this coming April.
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Post# 8681-11/6/2001-20:11 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore is here YAY! (Hmmm)
MESSAGE: Jason, I did a pair of my New Balance shoes in the Westy slant front last night with a couple of old towels. I tumbled them for a bit and then let them soak for a while. I restarted the wash at about 5 minutes and then let it complete the cycle. No balancing problems here, but there are no balance sensors on my model either ;-)
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Post# 8682-11/6/2001-20:35 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (too many suds)
MESSAGE: Right you are, TT. If I had been there with you, you probably would have had to sedate me to get me through the register........
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Post# 8683-11/6/2001-20:36 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore is here YAY! (comforter)
MESSAGE: Congrats on the new Frigmore, Jason. I know the feeling! I was walking on air the night I got the Neptune 7500 installed and running. There's nothing quite like that first new front loader feeling.
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Post# 8684-11/6/2001-20:38 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (MSTide)
MESSAGE: Of course, moderation is the key here................
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Post# 8685-11/6/2001-20:40 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (dating)
MESSAGE: That's OK Jason - after all, we are not the "He Men Woman Haters Club"............
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Post# 8686-11/6/2001-20:47 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (ah yes)
MESSAGE: You could stake out the detergent aisle at the local grocery store, Target or whatever. Look for attractive young women who seem undecided about what to select and strike up a discussion. You know, ask her if she has tried those new Surf Tablets - how great they work and how you can use them in your NEW front loader. Then move in for the kill - invite her over to do a load (of clothes, that is). You will appear sensitive, cool and ecologically reaponsible.
Making your appliances work for you......................
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Post# 8687-11/6/2001-20:49 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Tribute To Whirly: His last night (having multiple washers)
MESSAGE: Amen, and amen!!
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Post# 8688-11/6/2001-20:51 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Tribute To Whirly: His last night (perspective)
MESSAGE: Thanks, Peter and of course, washers and dryers are so much more practical than Hummel figurines!!! And much more fun to watch!
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Post# 8689-11/6/2001-20:53 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (My mom, the angel)
MESSAGE: She has a big unopened box of Sears Ultra Plus for me. She get's all my other detergent.
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Post# 8690-11/6/2001-20:55 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Tribute To Whirly: His last night (A Word on Sanity)
MESSAGE: And it promotes clean living!!
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Post# 8691-11/6/2001-21:00 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT:
You are so right!!
MESSAGE: Hi Peter, I couldn't agree with you more!!!!
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Post# 8692-11/6/2001-21:01 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore is here YAY! (don't ya love the window?)
MESSAGE: One of the reasons I respect cats so much is because they are naturally inquisitive and smart. They are also excellent judges of character. If cats and babies like you, that says a lot!
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Post# 8693-11/6/2001-21:05 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: OK Guys, An Assignment for Applianceville (He'll be here soon.....)
MESSAGE: Make that two other interested souls..............
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Post# 8694-11/6/2001-21:12 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (dating)
MESSAGE: Speaking of women, has anyone seen Janet Planet here lately? I miss her posts!
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Post# 8695-11/6/2001-21:24 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore is here YAY! (review)
MESSAGE: Jason, Jetcone finds it very therapeutic too to watch a load after work to relax him.
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Post# 8696-11/6/2001-21:38 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore is here YAY! (don't ya love the window?)
MESSAGE: Well thanks Anthony, babies are always drawn to me. That makes me feel better.
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Post# 8697-11/6/2001-21:47 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (dating)
MESSAGE: I was thinking of her and Miss Jetcone the other day - I've been wanting an update on Jet's Hettie washer and dryer as she's had them for a while now.
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Post# 8698-11/6/2001-22:49 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
Look what was in the back yard......
MESSAGE: I reckon I'm needn to get out the big 'ol cookin pot......
LINK: http://web.tampabay.rr.com/jasonspages/critter.html
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Post# 8699-11/6/2001-23:13 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Look what was in the back yard......
MESSAGE: Ohh, he's cute. I like possums.
Now if someone could tell me how to get rid of a horrible stray cat from under our house.
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Post# 8700-11/6/2001-23:19 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Look what was in the back yard......
MESSAGE: Do you have slow cooker? Or do you prefer the open flame?
The first time I saw one of these, I thought it was a huge rat with that nasty tail!
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Post# 8701-11/6/2001-23:19 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore is here YAY!
MESSAGE: Conratulations Jason on your new little baby!!!
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Post# 8702-11/6/2001-23:24 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore is here YAY! (don't ya love the window?)
MESSAGE: Hmm, I like Babies but not cats. I have seen one too many cats destroying beautiful native australian wildlife.
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Post# 8703-11/6/2001-23:45 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Look what was in the back yard......
MESSAGE: Mothballs...lots of mothballs. Providing you can stand the smell of them.
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Post# 8704-11/6/2001-23:47 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Look what was in the back yard......
MESSAGE: Thats what I first thought. This is the first time I have seen one alive. Usually there on the road dead.
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Post# 8705-11/6/2001-23:58 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Look what was in the back yard......
MESSAGE: I hear they make a good stew. But they smell like dog drool.
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Post# 8706-11/6/2001-00:01 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Look what was in the back yard......
MESSAGE: If the crawlspace is enclose, put a one way door on it. One way out, that is.
Otherwise, you might have to resort to a live trap.
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Post# 8707-11/6/2001-00:26 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore is here YAY!
MESSAGE: Jason, how'd the Fab do?
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Post# 8708-11/7/2001-05:42 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (too many suds)
MESSAGE: Anthony, We would have been so excited that they probably would have called security to check to see if we were lifting anything when it was the store giving it to us.
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Post# 8709-11/7/2001-05:45 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (My mom, the angel)
MESSAGE: Don't plan on using the Sears much for really dirty clothes. It can't hold a candle to the better detergents of which we each have his or her preference.
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Post# 8710-11/7/2001-06:39 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (My mom, the angel)
MESSAGE: Yesterday,I had a very interesting conversation with the Miele Customer Service Rep for my region. One of my friends is finally ready to buy a new washer and dryer, so of course she consulted me.... Having been raised on a farm in the Allegheny Mountains of Pennsylvania, with septic, wells, etc... she is spoiling for a FL. So, today is shopping day. She needs to see the FriGEMore and the Miele. In doing the research, I must say that talking to the Miele rep was one of the most pleasant and informative appliance experiences I have ever had. We were on the phone for 45 minutes - he answered every silly question I had and explained the features completely. I was just blown away since I have never dealt with anyone either form the retailer or manufacturer who knew the product so well or was willing to spend the time talking about it. Interesting, he didn't even badmouth the FriGEMore - you know try the hard sell by telling me how much better Miele is. In fact he praised FriGEMore for being innovative. But of course he pointed out the durability of Miele and explained that the extra time spent washing was time gained by having very short dry times.
When it came to detergents, he recommended Persil and even offered to send me a complementary box of "regular" and "Sensitif"- said he loves the stuff and has tested his Miele with others. His finding was that while Persil worked best, Tide HE and Fab rain forest powder are fine also. Wisk HE worked well, but even with the four rinses the smell was too strong - so he suggested scaling back. Interesting, he felt the tablets (Surf, Purex) didn't work as well and dissolving them is somewhat difficult so Miele could not recommend those. Finally he told me that Miele is working to have Persil Black Velvet imported here - but at best it will be a while - all kinds of middleman issues...
I particularly liked the fact that he walked ma through what to do if you ever need service. I guess it seems like they do not forget the customer once the sale is made and really try to ensure you are happy with their product on an ongoing basis. Such a novel concept for the American consumer.......
Now let's see which machine my friend Judy ends up with.
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Post# 8711-11/7/2001-06:51 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (My mom, the angel)
MESSAGE: Wow, that is good service. That should make you (her) feel very comfortable if she chooses the Miele.
Out of curiosity, did you try to talk with Frigidaire (Electrolux)? Before buying my Frig several years ago, I asked similar questions of them. My exchanges were through email, however, but I still found them very knowledgable and helpfull.
On the other hand, when I was having many problems with my Asko I tried to contact a customer service rep. No one ever answered the phone. I noticed that the address for the US office wasn't very far from my home, so I drove over there. One room office in an industrial park. This was the middle of a business day. Lights off, no one home. I went home and emailed Electrolux.
Customer Service is important.
As for the Persil, if you dont want it I'll send you a box of Rainforest Fab for it (not because I don't like the Fab, just that I can get it in my area). I'm down to two Persil Colour Capsules and half a bottle of Black Velvet.
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Post# 8712-11/7/2001-06:58 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
STPP Est Arrive................
MESSAGE: On a different note, I received my 10 pounds of STPP from the Chemisty Store yesterday. The verdict - WOW. Guess what all my friends will be getting for Christmas/Chanukah this year???????
I probably need to adjust my usage though. I started with 1/4 cup for a full load in the Amana top loader. I am not sure that's right..........any suggestions???
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Post# 8713-11/7/2001-07:04 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (My mom, the angel)
MESSAGE: I actually did not try to contact Frigidaire Customer Service. I have had enough experience with those machines through friends so I didn't feel as if I were "in the dark". I felt that I needed to call Miele because I have never used one nor have I ever seen one in operation. I guess that I just needed to "test out the connection". I am sure either one will do just fine for her - she is single and the dog and cats don't generate much wash........... Of course I say that knowing that the FriGEMore will probably not last nearly as long as the Miele and may require a bit more service.....
Thanks for the offer of sending me your FAB - but it really isn't necessary. There are other choices here so it isn't really as if my hands are tied or anything....... Now if we could only get our hands on some Black Velvet.... Perhaps some of our UK friends on this site want to do a bit of mail order business.. (hint, hint)
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Post# 8714-11/7/2001-07:19 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: STPP Est Arrive................
MESSAGE: It really made that much of a difference?
Mine shipped yesterday - hopefully I'll have it later this week.
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Post# 8715-11/7/2001-07:24 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (My mom, the angel)
MESSAGE: I like Black Velvet, in fact I like all of the Persil products I've tried. They even smell nice. I'm not sure why Lever doesn't replace the Wisk formula with Persil (even if they kept the Wisk name). Night and day difference. I'm in the UK a fair amount (at least I WAS before September) and always save room in my bags for some (what do other people bring back from trips?).
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Post# 8716-11/7/2001-07:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: STPP Est Arrive................
MESSAGE: Don't you wish there was a guidebook! Interesting you found a 10lb "sample size" as I had to get the 50lb "hoarder" size! I followed Rich's suggestion of 33% STPP and 67% detergent. I have mostly standard capacity machines, and the mix worked fine. Our water here is 11-12 grains so depending on your hardness level you may be OK with 1/4 cup. Slippery water is the goal, test it with your hands after it has dissolved with the detergent to see how it feels.
I was amazed with my white load the other night, I followed the same procedure as I normally do but with much better results this time. Have fun experimenting.
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Post# 8717-11/7/2001-07:41 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore is here YAY! (Fab)
MESSAGE: The fab does a great job of cleaning. Low sudsing. The only complaint I have is the smell is great but it's a bit strong. Stronger than MS Tide. For cleaning, it did a great job of cleaning my yard work clothes. I put Sir Frigmore on Hot/Cold and regular wash. Note: There's no Hot/Warm rinse.
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Post# 8718-11/7/2001-08:00 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
POD
MESSAGE: Wow, that's a tall woman on the POD. Whew! I wanna be her washer. Yeah baby!
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Post# 8719-11/7/2001-08:25 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore is here YAY! (Fab)
MESSAGE: You can always try regular Fab. But it's good to hear about the cleaning.
As for the Hot/Warm - nope, it doesnt have one. Also the Warm rinse on the Warm/Warm setting only applies to the last rinse on the Normal cycle. The first 2 (or 3) rinses are always cold as are all rinses on PP or Delicate.
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Post# 8720-11/7/2001-08:27 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: STPP Est Arrive................
MESSAGE: I ordered the 5lb "single use" size from The Chemistry Store (www.chemistrystore.com).
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Post# 8721-11/7/2001-08:31 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD
MESSAGE: Hotpoint... The dominatirx first choice... Do laundry right or I'll spank you...
-ph
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Post# 8722-11/7/2001-08:41 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (Persil Black Velvet?)
MESSAGE: Is that a grade above or below Persil VSOP?
-ph
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Post# 8723-11/7/2001-08:46 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore is here YAY!
MESSAGE: Congrats, Jason! You'll have a good time with it! FL's rock!
Please let us know how many minutes your drying time is cut from the Whirly...
-ph
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Post# 8724-11/7/2001-08:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: OK Guys, An Assignment for Applianceville (He'll be here soon.....)
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg, great idea calling Jim. I hope he will join us here in our happy little cyber-land.
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Post# 8725-11/7/2001-08:54 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore is here YAY! (review)
MESSAGE: Throwing a load in the washer of my choice after a really bad day at the office is my version of an after work martini!
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Post# 8726-11/7/2001-08:56 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (dating)
MESSAGE: You'll be getting more than just an update in that arena. Karen has invited Neal and I over to dinner on this upcoming Saturday night and I'll bring my camera. Apparently she has quite the collection of mixers and other appliances too.
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Post# 8727-11/7/2001-08:58 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Look what was in the back yard......
MESSAGE: Fun pictures, thanks for sharing Jason. Why is the tree behind the critter leafless? Are you far enough north in Florida that some of the plants loose their leaves when the daylight hours dwindle? Just curious.
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Post# 8728-11/7/2001-09:07 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Whip me)
MESSAGE: I went out of balance. Whip me baby yeah!
Alot of those Pics with those 50s women turn me on.
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Post# 8729-11/7/2001-09:12 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Look what was in the back yard......
MESSAGE: Oh yes. That poor thing is naked along with the Sycamore. The rest of the back yard is covered with leaves. Being that I hate raking I think I will use the mower with the bagger on it. One day.......
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Post# 8730-11/7/2001-09:15 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirly's last wash? Sir Frigmore is coming (Persil Black Velvet?)
MESSAGE: VSOP?
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Post# 8731-11/7/2001-09:18 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Last Night's Events
MESSAGE: Last night Leslie (Magic Clean) came over for dinner, Neal made a very nice home made pizza and then we did some washing in the '57 Control Tower, ABC-O-Matic and the '57 Lady Kenmore. Its always so much fun when Appliancevillers come for visits, people who can really appreciate the collection!
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Post# 8732-11/7/2001-09:18 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Whip me)
MESSAGE: OK, TMI
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Post# 8733-11/7/2001-09:27 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: STPP Est Arrive................
MESSAGE: Angus,
Good to hear the STPP is working for you!
How much to add? It really depends on your water hardness and degree of soiling in the laundry. You might try a 33% ratio of STPP to your regular detergent amount. You can adjust that up or down depending on the results. If you got great results with the 1/4 cup amount, you might try adding a little less next time.
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Post# 8734-11/7/2001-09:49 ||| Lbcarguy (Long Beach, CA)
SUBJECT:
GE 1963-1965 Filter Flo Washer
MESSAGE: Looking for the top of the line model with lighted control panel. Email me if you know of one, lbcarguy@aol.com
Thanks
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Post# 8735-11/7/2001-11:14 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Last Night's Events (Minnie)
MESSAGE: So if I ever go to Minn., I can look at the collection?
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Post# 8736-11/7/2001-11:27 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Last Night's Events (Minnie)
MESSAGE: Of course you can Jason, bring wash even!
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Post# 8737-11/7/2001-11:37 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Last Night's Events (YAY)
MESSAGE: One load for the WCI58 and one for the Lady Kenmore.
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Post# 8738-11/7/2001-11:42 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore is here YAY! (My clothes are DRY!)
MESSAGE: Congratulations Jason, I'm always glad when somebody is happy with a new washer toy (or should I say toy washer?). I hope it will serve you many happy sudsy (but not too much) washes. Louis
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Post# 8739-11/7/2001-12:03 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore is here YAY! (Whirly's song)
MESSAGE: OK, Whirly wrote this one about me.
To the tune of "They're coming to take me away, ha-ha!" by Napoleon XIV.
Remember when you took me in and I heard you want a Frigmore and getting that would make me go away, well...
You got it anyhow and now I'm sitting in your kitchen and you see I've gone completely out of my mind... and...
They're coming to take me away ha ha
They're coming to take me away ho ho he he haha
To the burial ground with trash and garbage and rusted cars
And flies and buzzards that pick away at your parts and hoses
and they're coming to take me away ha ha
You thought that I was junk and so searched and searched until you found the perfect washing machine... right?
I know you search I saw you search and then one day the delivery men came and now you see I'm utterly mad .. and
They're coming to take me away ha ha
They're coming to take me away ho ho he he haha
To the city dump, where life is miserable all the time
and I'll be happy to see those nice young men in the dirty work clothes
and they're coming to take me away ha=ha
I washed your clothes I cleaned your drawers and this is how you pay me back for all me kind unselfish loving deeds.. HUH?
Well you just wait, Frigmore will break and then he'll have to go away and to the Krusher just like me... and
They're coming to take me away ha ha
They're coming to take me away ho ho he he haha
To the burial ground with trash and garbage and rusted cars
And flies and buzzards that pick away at your parts and hoses
and they're coming to take me away ha ha
To the city dump, where life is miserable all the time
and I'll be happy to see those nice young men in the dirty work clothes
and they're coming to take me away ha ha!
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Post# 8740-11/7/2001-12:24 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
Kenmore agitator
MESSAGE: There was a POD a few weeks ago with the Kenmore boltdown and a mysterious 6 vane agitator. I just found a pic of it on the Lee Maxwell washer museum site...
-ph
LINK: http://216.160.174.6/oldewash_docs/oldewash/agitator_alley/gyrator483.jpg
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Post# 8741-11/7/2001-12:56 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Kenmore agitator (Tator-Central)
MESSAGE: I believe that mysterious 6 vane agitator was mainly a Kenmore wringer washer agitator, Peter. But VERY COOL link, check out the parent directory of your line (click link below) and click on some of these really interesting agitators...
LINK: http://216.160.174.6/oldewash_docs/oldewash/agitator_alley/
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Post# 8742-11/7/2001-13:14 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Kenmore agitator
MESSAGE: Peter, that reminds me a bit of the 6 vane that GE was using for a while. Gotta love all those wild agitators.
Eddy
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Post# 8743-11/7/2001-13:27 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE 1963-1965 Filter Flo Washer
MESSAGE: Hi Mike, welcome to the club. I don't know anyone who has this particular GE you're looking for, but we'll keep our eyes open. I have a 1951 and a 1957 GE automatic washer. Any particular reasons why you're specifically searching for a '63-'65 GE?
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Post# 8744-11/7/2001-13:28 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Kenmore agitator (Almost a Calypso Wash Plate!)
MESSAGE: Look at this!
LINK: http://216.160.174.6/oldewash_docs/oldewash/agitator_alley/tiltagit55.jpg
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Post# 8745-11/7/2001-13:36 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Kenmore agitator (Almost a Calypso Wash Plate!)
MESSAGE: There is something kind of disturbing about that.
What machine is it from? Did it work like the calypso? It's definatley very interesting (but still disturbing).
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Post# 8746-11/7/2001-13:43 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Kenmore agitator (Almost a Calypso Wash Plate!)
MESSAGE: Hmmm.......sort of an early Calypso or Philco-Bendix "blades of water"............
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Post# 8747-11/7/2001-14:11 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Kenmore agitator (Thor "
Hand"
Agitator)
MESSAGE: This was a Thor washer - there is video of the agitator running to see, link is to the washer's information page with pics and links to the animations.
Oldewash.com is a wonderful site, very well organized and lots of neat old machines.
LINK: http://216.160.174.6/oldewash_docs/oldewash/detail_report_animate.cfm
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Post# 8748-11/7/2001-14:12 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Kenmore agitator (Almost a Calypso Wash Plate!)
MESSAGE: I think the lettering says:
Thor Gentle Hand
Hand Gentleness
Machine Speed
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Post# 8749-11/7/2001-17:01 ||| appliguy (Vienna Va.)
SUBJECT:
I want to thank all my fellow citizens of Applianceville
MESSAGE: I would just like to thank all the citizens of the Town of Applianceville for making this a fun place to come and visit on a regular basis. I look forward each day to reading the new posts and gathering even more new information and facts. I also want to give a special round of appluase to Applianceville's Mayor, Robert (unimatic1140) for the tireless dedication and creativity he uses to run this wonderfull town. For me it is nice to know that with the threat of terroism lurking in the air that there are still people like you guys who are so willing to share your fountains of knowledge with those of us who have a voracious thurst for appliance knowledge. In closing I would like to note that recently ourserene little town of Applianceville had a slight difference of opinion between some of its "citizens" but it was nothing compared to the outright rudeness, nastiness, and plain vulgarity I have seen on similar pages (to which I no longer visit for that reason) and I want to thank everyone again for realizing that having a difference of opinion is fine but being rude and nasty ruins it for everyone. To me that is what makes our little town a friendly place to hangout and in and makes me proud to be counted among its citizens.
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Post# 8750-11/7/2001-18:56 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: I want to thank all my fellow citizens of Applianceville
MESSAGE: I nominate you for sherriff!! Great sentiment and so true!!!
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Post# 8751-11/7/2001-19:00 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
Sir Frigemore's first day (pics)
MESSAGE: It is my pleasure to introduce to you my new washing machine: Sir Kenneth Frigmore
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/kenmore800/lst?.dir=/photos/Sir+Frigmore&.view=t
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Post# 8752-11/7/2001-19:18 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigemore's first day (pics)
MESSAGE: Nice pics, Jason. Your Whirly looks a lot like the one I had for about 13 years. It was a good washer. I miss it. Mine might have had an extra dial or button, but the styling and color is spot on. Is yours a "super" capacity?
But of course, there is nothing quite like a front loader. And of course as a Neptune owner I'm slightly jealous of your window ;-).
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Post# 8753-11/7/2001-19:21 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigemore's first day (pics) (WP capacity)
MESSAGE: It was a large capacity. It had a Surgilator instead of the dual-action. It still works fine but I want a FL.
The reason I didn't even look at Maytag was because of no window. And with my budget, the Frigmore was the way to go. If I was higher budget, I'd get the HE3t or a Miele.
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Post# 8754-11/7/2001-19:57 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigemore's first day (pics)
MESSAGE: Great pics Jason - I know you will be very happy together. Did you remember to take the plastic off the control panel???
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Post# 8755-11/7/2001-20:02 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigemore's first day (pics)
MESSAGE: You know Rich, I wonder if the marketing geniuses at Maytag understand how much business they are losing because of the lack of window. I was in a local appliance store today and observed three couples studying the Neptune - and all moved on to FriGEMore with a similar comment - "what fun is a front loader if you can't look through the window?" That fits the whole Maytag profile, though - Laundry is shameful, sinful - let's hide it. That's why none of their machines ever operated - even fill, with the lid open. Actually I was kidding but rereading it, it almost makes some sense..............
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Post# 8756-11/7/2001-20:12 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigemore's first day (pics) (WP capacity)
MESSAGE: That is exactly what my friend Judy did today. She loked at Neptune and decided for the price she could spend a little more and get a Miele W1926 and a window!! Seriously though, she never even hesitated - once she saw the Miele, and the T1526 matching dryer, she was a hooked. The other pthing that prevented her from getting the Neptunes was she wanted front controls but not for stacking. Anyway, I was surprised at the capacity - the 1926 seemed to have no trouble handling the queen size quilt I brought for the event - the salesman really loved that!!!! And I must add that the time spent on the phone with the Miele customer service rep was very beneficial in the final round. Now for pricing - in my area all three authorized Miele dealers will sell the 1926 washer for $1799.00 and the 1526 dryer for $1399. Each piece was "discounted" $200. Guess that was as good as it gets....... Well, what a day! I also finally saw up close and personal the "low end" GEDaires and the stainless GEManas. Funny - I was looking at the GEMana and never even realized that it was not my existing Amana washer and dryer. The GE logo was tiny and at the bottom left of the control panel. Otherwise - a dead ringer for mine.....
Now I cannot wait for my complimentary Persil..........
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Post# 8757-11/7/2001-20:34 ||| Lenny (Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigemore's first day (pics) (Neppy deservers a window!)
MESSAGE: I have to agree with you regarding Maytag. Whatever their reason, they seem to go to such great lengths to avoid letting one 'peer' into their operating washers. As Uni explained to me, the newer Maytag T/L's(including my TOL Atlantis) have a 'double' security lid switch with a fuse that will trip if you manage to somehow bypass the lid switch alone - you also have to bypass the secondary fuse! I managed to get around this by removing the metal clips that hold the machine top to the front panel, now I just lift the whole top up and the machine still runs. Indeed, I am very pleased with the Atlantis's wash stroke/action. It makes a nice broad sweep and has good 'pull-under' and a slight counter-clockwise rotation of the laundry load (caused by the rotating LoadSensor Agitator with a full load).
I also have the Maytag Atlantis electronic. While I absolutely LOVE the washing results and high efficiency of this machine, I strongly dislike the 'windowless' door. It really seperates you from your washload. I guess for those 'average Joes' that just want clean close and load a washer, turn it on and come back an hour later, the Neptune would be excellent. For me though, I wish I held out a year to get the HEt3 - mainly because of its large window. Who knows, I may just up and decide to sell my Neppy and take a loss and get the Hettie. Im just not sure yet. But again, I definitely love the clean, well rinsed, well extracted, results my Neppy provides...She just DESERVES a window!
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Post# 8758-11/7/2001-20:38 ||| Lenny (Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigemore's first day (pics) (Congrats on the Fri GE More!)
MESSAGE: Jasonl:
Congrats on your beautiful new FriGEMore, she looks beautiful! Any reason that you went with the forward console controls instead of the top console controls since it looks like you have the little alcove that would accomodate the traditional top console controls. It also looks like you choose a feature-packed model...looks like a lot of fun to run. Best of luck with her.
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Post# 8759-11/7/2001-20:40 ||| Lenny (Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigemore's first day (pics) (Correction!)
MESSAGE: CORRECTION: I meant to say I also have the Maytag electronic Neptune! Sorry 'bout that.
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Post# 8760-11/7/2001-20:50 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigemore's first day (pics) (controls)
MESSAGE: I like the front controls better than the top controls. The front controls give it that classic "front loader" look. Yeah, it's kinda a pain to set the controls but I'm sitting on the floor or in the folding chair at this point so I can just reach up and start the washer.
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Post# 8761-11/7/2001-21:40 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigemore's first day (pics)
MESSAGE: Yes, well I'm hoping that Maytag will get the message with the Whirlmores and offer a window on their next Neptune. I'm also hoping that I can order that part and retrofit mine.
Recently I realized that if I were to move a spare stored mattress set (standing on end) and an unused sofa on the enclosed patio, I could fit a Whirlmore set on the patio very nicely. I'd just have to plumb a drain and water supply lines, but all that stuff is nearby under the house in the crawlspace. The patio has a brick floor that rests at ground level, so there would be no problem with floor stability (although I'd probably put a sheet of plywood down first to make leveling easier on the uneven brick surface).
Well, considering the plumbing work and the cost of the machines, I might have to postpone this little fantasy for a time after I win the lottery ;-). Meanwhile the Neptune set keeps on chugging along just fine. Usually I just load it, start it, and then get back to whatever else I'm doing. It's not entertainment but it does what it's supposed to do - get clothes etc. clean using less water, gas, and electricity. I have enough projects going on around here already!
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Post# 8762-11/7/2001-21:46 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigemore's first day (pics) (controls)
MESSAGE: Plus, the front mounted controls will let you stack Sir Frigmorty in the event he rescues his beautiful princess Frigmarsha from the dryer section of the nearest Sears Outlet...
The front mounted controls also make the washer ADA compliant (for people in wheelchairs). In the event the washer lasts until you're 92, you may grow to appreciate that).
;-)
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Post# 8763-11/7/2001-21:49 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigemore's first day (pics) (Frigmore/Kenmore)
MESSAGE: Best of Luck with the new FL
Yes their is nothing like watching it go round and round
Peter
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Post# 8764-11/7/2001-21:53 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
DSL mystery resolved?
MESSAGE: You may recall that I got a new DSL service last week. But it's been intermittantly bad. Usually just after dark. Well, I think I may have figured out the cause. I have a couple of dimmable flourescent light torchieres in the next room. These cause some static on some TV channels. The phone wiring for the DSL runs nearby that room, under the floor. Anyway, it seems that when I turn on one of the dimmable tochieres, the DSL connection gets r e a l s l o w and I get "page not found" errors. Turn the lamp off, DSL recovers. I guess the DSL technician who is supposed to show up here Friday between 4 pm and 8 pm will be highly amused ;-). Meanwhile, I'm planning on replacing the lamps with something less obnoxious - or rewire the switch so that it is even on or off, with no dimming. The lamps hum as well, so I won't miss them too much.
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Post# 8765-11/7/2001-22:00 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
Sir Frigmore's first video
MESSAGE: Sir Frigmore get psychedelic to "Time" by the Chambers Brothers.
LINK: http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/kenmore800/lst?.dir=/videos/Kenmore&.order=&.view=l&.src=bc&.done=http%3a//briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/kenmore800/lst%3f.dir=/videos/Kenmore%26.src=bc%26.view=l
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Post# 8766-11/7/2001-22:05 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore's first video
MESSAGE: Like wow, groovy, man. I mean it's out of sight, far-out. I can dig it.
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Post# 8767-11/7/2001-22:20 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigemore's first day (pics) (trivia contest)
MESSAGE: Look at the captions to my frigmore pics and try to guess the songs they came from. Some are dead obvious and some are not.
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Post# 8768-11/7/2001-00:13 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigemore's first day (pics) (trivia contest)
MESSAGE: I can positively identify only one song - "New Kid in Town" by the Eagles. OK, the title might not be accurate, but that's the subject of the song...
And the road has been too long... Is that from the long and winding road, abbey road, Beatles?
And you may find a friend... Is that from Simon & Garfunkle Bridge over troubled waters?
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Post# 8769-11/7/2001-00:31 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigemore's first day (pics) (trivia contest)
MESSAGE: Congrats on the washer in and thanks for the great pics - feel like we were there with you.
#6 "we need dirty laundry" is the Cars - I had that album.
I would guess #11 "the road has been too long" is from Bridge Over Troubled Water - Simon and Garfunkel as is #12 "and you may find a friend" ??
That's all I know - cute idea and fun too!
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Post# 8770-11/7/2001-00:48 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigemore's first day (pics)
MESSAGE: Super pics Jason. Thanks for sharing.
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Post# 8771-11/8/2001-02:06 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore's first video
MESSAGE: Very cool video, Jason, I love it! You're going to spin the night away! Hey hey.
Eddy
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Post# 8772-11/8/2001-06:58 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: I want to thank all my fellow citizens of Applianceville
MESSAGE: We'll thanks for the kind words Pat! I'm glad we're able to keep Applianceville friendly.
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Post# 8773-11/8/2001-07:04 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore's first video
MESSAGE: Thanks for the great pictures and video Jason. That video was fun to watch!
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Post# 8774-11/8/2001-07:44 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigemore's first day (pics) (lyrics answers)
MESSAGE: Some of the songs are pretty obscure.
1. "just an empty cell" Soul Deep - The Box Tops
2. "home.. home again" Breathe (reprise) - Pink Floyd
3. "just set my dials" Love Machine - The Spinners
4. "we need ..." Dirty Laundry - Don Henley
5. "A little bit of soap will wash..." A Little bit of soap - The Jamels
6. "I gazed through the glass" Deacon Blue - Steely Dan
7. "Round and round... and round" Us and Them - Pink Floyd
8. "It's party time" It's party time - T.G. Sheppard
9. "And the road has been to long" The Rose - Bette Midler
10. "And you may find a friend" Reach Out In The Darkness - Friend & Lover
11. "There's a ..." New Kid In Town - The Eagles
12. "Did My Love open the door" - Pete Townsend
Actually I didn't use any Beatles lyrics.. shame on me.
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Post# 8775-11/8/2001-07:51 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
POD Washer ID?
MESSAGE: What is that washer sitting next to the Maytag on the top right page? It looks like it has a "timeline" time but it's arched like a 50s radio dial and it has a window lid.
I've always wanted to make some kind of rpm gauge to test the rpms of a washer. That would be neat to see how many RPM's the Frigmore has and also Uni's Frigidaires.
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Post# 8776-11/8/2001-08:06 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigemore's first day (pics) (lyrics answers)
MESSAGE: Well, it was still fun - even though I got them all wrong. I was so young (and pretty) it's hard to remember all the details! I should have known the "Rose" as it was one we listened to over and over again!
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Post# 8777-11/8/2001-08:08 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Washer ID?
MESSAGE: That machine with the arched (called a "Do All Dial" I think) is a Kelvinator with the centric agitation.
At the convention in Minneapolis this last August we had a strobe tachometer that we used to gauge the rpm's of several washers - was very cool.
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Post# 8778-11/8/2001-09:46 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigemore's first day (pics) (lyrics answers)
MESSAGE: And you missed Steely Dan's, "...I won't do your dirty work, no more..."
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Post# 8779-11/8/2001-10:04 ||| bk1770 (quincy,ma)
SUBJECT:
fridgemore
MESSAGE: congrats on your new washer. I wil probably wait and buy
the HE3t. Even though it is more money I like the larger
capacity and larger window.
Anyone know when more pics will be placed in the cyber
museum?
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Post# 8780-11/8/2001-10:19 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Washer ID? (Looks like my mega-laundry)
MESSAGE: Yes, we in the know all realize that classic windowed lid and the agitator yields either an ABC-O-Matic (logo I didn't see on the front of the washer) thus it had to be a Kelvinator. AND, that lady sitting with all those baskets of laundry piled around her. it looks like one of my mega-laundry sessions--tons of wash to do at once. See, I'm just incarnated from that woman LOL
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Post# 8781-11/8/2001-11:05 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Washer ID? (Kelvinator)
MESSAGE: Yes its a Kelvinator, the picture at the bottom right of the page is the inside of that Do-All-Dial washer. You can tell the machine is brand new, right out of the crate too as it looks pristine. Pretty blue porcelain tub too!
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Post# 8782-11/8/2001-11:56 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: I want to thank all my fellow citizens of Applianceville
MESSAGE: I second that!!
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Post# 8783-11/8/2001-12:00 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Washer ID? (Kelvinator)
MESSAGE: Thanks. I wasn't in the know :-D
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Post# 8784-11/8/2001-12:56 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore's first video (Youthful Excitement!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Jason
Enjoyed the pics and video of your first FL washer....I hadnt realised that the FL had wash/rinse temp options, unlike our european models....
It was nice to see and hear your excitment through your posts,
takes me back to youthful carefree days!!!
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 8785-11/8/2001-13:00 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Washer ID? (Tacho Read - )
MESSAGE: Hi Robert
How come you`ve not got one of these???
What super fast whizzy spin speed was this one then???
Mike
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Post# 8786-11/8/2001-13:06 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: I want to thank all my fellow citizens of Applianceville
MESSAGE: I`ll third that!!!
Its so easy to take for granted the hard work involved!!!
I`m sure he`ll get the "UQOCH" Award!!!!!!
(pronounced UuuQooocha)
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 8787-11/8/2001-13:08 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore's first video
MESSAGE: Jason,
Welcome to the FL club!! That machine is really swinging!
Louis
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Post# 8788-11/8/2001-13:11 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: STPP Est Arrive................
MESSAGE: Hi Greg
Is this the same as our "calgon"???
Mike
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Post# 8789-11/8/2001-13:13 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Washer ID? (Cinderella's Glass Shoe )
MESSAGE: But I do have a Do-All-Dial Kelvinator Mike, unfortunatly its just the Dial part, I need to find the rest of the machine that the dial fits onto. It Cinderella's shoe all over again.
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Post# 8790-11/8/2001-14:21 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore's first video (Youthful Excitement!!)
MESSAGE: Mike,
I'm a bit confused by your statement that european machines don't have temp options. Most of the ones I've seen had internal heaters and more options than our typical hot,warm,cold. Did I misunderstand your comment?
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Post# 8791-11/8/2001-14:49 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore's first video (Temp combination)
MESSAGE: I took it to mean that Euro-FLs don't have a temp control providing various "combinations" of wash/rinse, but rather a temp control that provides for wash temps only, and rinse is tied to the timer or fabric selection / program.
Yes?
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Post# 8792-11/8/2001-15:09 ||| madigan (Santa Ana CA)
SUBJECT:
I'm coming out... of the linen closet!
MESSAGE: Sheesh - sounds like something Marge Simpson would say... Anyway...
I've been lurking around here and finally (since my laundry life is changing) decided to to speak up (I'm shy, OK??).
I find it really comforting to know that I am not the only person in the world that is fascinated by laundry equipment in particular, and appliances in general. There is something about an appliance that, if done right, really can move me.
I find a parallel between American automobile design and appliance design - post WWII, through the 50's and 60's, kind of fading through the 70's, 80's and 90's, to the current renaissance typified by the Calypso and HE3t. Also, has anybody noticed the relationship between appliance design and jukebox (my other hobby) design?
I'm finally getting back to my roots - front loaders. I grew up with at least 4 Westinghouse Laundromats, and one of the smaller Westinghouse front loaders (!Don't open that door!!), and after 30 years of top loaders, I bought an HE3t. It's NICE to be able to see what's happening again (and my laundry is lots cleaner, to boot!).
I still have my SE1000 Maytag set, that I bought 12 years ago trying to replace my sadly departed A900, but I don't think I'm going to try a dual hookup - my space is too limited.
Since I got the HE3t (rhymes with "Hey, sweetie!" - no hetties here...) I've even (gasp) dragged out my iron and ironed - dish towels! I tell you three times - I am not insane.
So anyway, thanks for being here - this is a great site! Unimatic - how do you do those animations??
BTW - I scanned my HE3t Washer/HE3 Dryer Instruction/Installation Manuals and Tech sheets.
AFWIW - I sing with the Gay Men's Chorus of Los Angeles...
Happy Laundering!
jjm
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/the1madbear
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Post# 8793-11/8/2001-15:53 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm coming out... of the linen closet! (Welcome!)
MESSAGE: And what a smashing arrival! I'm downloading the instructions and tech sheets at this moment!
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Post# 8794-11/8/2001-16:10 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm coming out... of the linen closet! (manuals)
MESSAGE: Welcome to the group!
Thanks for the manuals - it's very handy to be able to review them. In fact, a manual library would be very nice.
So is Hettie wonderful? It must be if it's got you ironing dish towels - I don't even always fold mine...
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Post# 8795-11/8/2001-16:12 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore's first video (Temp combination)
MESSAGE: Ah, I missed that.
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Post# 8796-11/8/2001-16:31 ||| madigan (Santa Ana CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm coming out... of the linen closet! (He Three Tee is wunnerful - Snears ...)
MESSAGE: My laundry nemesis' are hand towels and pillow cases (I'm a greasy Irishman, oK.?). With the help of others from Applianceville, I've been able to make them WHITE and GREASE-FREE (and you don't know what I've gone thru with the poor Maytag trying to achieve this...).
I sing the body electric (HE3t)!
I celebrate the laundry of life!
WFIW - most of my metaphors regard music and song...
But am I the only person who has linen towels that have a crease along the edges, and everything else is ok as is?
I will continue to iron! Till I discover that the creases will not relent... (roll me, over in clover...)
jjm
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Post# 8797-11/8/2001-16:57 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: I want to thank all my fellow citizens of Applianceville
MESSAGE: I fourth it and 5th it. Hey with a 5th, life could be real fun with some of the drugs I'm on LOL.
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Post# 8798-11/8/2001-17:00 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm coming out... of the linen closet! (He Three Tee is wunnerful - Snears ...)
MESSAGE: Welcome to a man after my own heart...............
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Post# 8799-11/8/2001-17:16 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore's first video (Temp combination)
MESSAGE: We only have cold rinses on our frontloaders.
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Post# 8800-11/8/2001-17:18 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm coming out... of the linen closet! (welcome)
MESSAGE: Welcome madigan to the "family" in lots of ways LOL. I believe I've seen you posting on That Home Site with the jjm. My alias there is boba. Thanks for the He3t tech manuals. I already have the owners manuals from the washer & dryer. An anaonymous club member kindly slipped them out of the Sears store for me when we were at the convention in Minnie in August. I practically sleep with the owners manuals even to this day. WOOF!
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Post# 8801-11/8/2001-17:18 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm coming out... of the linen closet!
MESSAGE: A warm welcome!! Sounds you found the right place!!! I hope you will enjoy this club. Louis
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Post# 8802-11/8/2001-17:21 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm coming out... of the linen closet! (He Three Tee is wunnerful - Snears ...)
MESSAGE: I tool look forward to the day when I can use the Sanitary cycle to get my whites even whiter and my kitchen towels and dish clothes even whiter!!!! I'm part irish too, know of the oily skin and hair.
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Post# 8803-11/8/2001-17:22 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore's first video (Temp combination)
MESSAGE: But Luigi, you've got a warm heart!
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Post# 8804-11/8/2001-17:34 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm coming out... of the linen closet!
MESSAGE: Jim, gotta be noesy, is your laundry life changing because of hte new HE3t? Out of deferance to oyu, I won't refer to it as a hettie, although that's the nickname I've used since 6/01 and it's hard to change that habbit event hough I fully understand the implications of the other meaning. LOL
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Post# 8805-11/8/2001-17:39 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Washer ID? (& Jingo)
MESSAGE: Robert
And we all know what Cinders get at the end of the ball....
and I find myself in heaps of laughter after a tense week!!!
We say " One Turn Programmer" you say "Do-All-Dial"
We Say "Pull out shelves" you say "Glide-To-You" racks.
You definatly have the better lingo jingo!!!!
LoL, Mike
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Post# 8806-11/8/2001-17:42 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore's first video (Youthful Excitement!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Ed
Our machines dont have the warm rinse option, cold water only, spray snow if its really cold....
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 8807-11/8/2001-17:55 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm coming out... of the linen closet!
MESSAGE: Hi Jim
Welcome to the Washtub, racking the old grey cells, AFWIW?????
Mike
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Post# 8808-11/8/2001-17:56 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Washer ID? (& Jingo)
MESSAGE: Mike, I was looking at an Amana bottom mount (freezer on the bottom) fridge today. It said it had glide-out-shelves or slide-out-shelves. I can't remember the exact phrase, I was so excited to finally get to see one of these beasts in person, hadn't seen one since I was 10 or so. I went to Lowes. I stay away from Sears to have been able to look at similar fridges. I can't go in a Sears. I'd end up buying that washer I'm in lust over and just spent the equivalent for the beginning of termine prevention. OY!
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Post# 8809-11/8/2001-17:57 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Washer ID? (& Jingo)
MESSAGE: termite prevention.
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Post# 8810-11/8/2001-17:57 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore's first video (Temp combination)
MESSAGE: Glen
Yep, Spot on......
Up to showing that last video yet!!!
Mike
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Post# 8811-11/8/2001-18:02 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
Chestermike, your new washer
MESSAGE: Mike, any word on the status of that new wassher with the orange wash basket colour option we're getting you to order???
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Post# 8812-11/8/2001-18:02 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm coming out... of the linen closet! ("
Its that word again"
!!!!)
MESSAGE: Bob
I look forward when we can say that word with ease!!!!LOL
We`d never sell a washer over here with a feature like that, only used to promote "womens things with wings"
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 8813-11/8/2001-18:09 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Chestermike, your new washer
MESSAGE: The Titan? Looks like a real cool machine. Why not get one of each color basket? (except maybe the aqua...)
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Post# 8814-11/8/2001-18:11 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Chestermike, your new washer (Tubs To YOu Too!!)
MESSAGE: Bob
I can get the Orange Tub next day!!!
The distribution of the washer is still half way up the M6 (highway49) and not near this end!!!
Although There is a Titan in NY, saw it on the news before, There`s a big UK/NY , Travel Agents Conference to try and drum up (no pun intended) cross atlantic trade...
This is being sponsored by the Design Council of GB, and the Titan won a Design Council Millenium Award Product Award, all products are on display there.... so watch the box & let me know...Mike
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Post# 8815-11/8/2001-18:15 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore's first video (Full Speed Crash)
MESSAGE: Well, actually Mike, I was thinking about that just in the last few days. The entire clip is too long for on-line viewing, so I'll have to try editing it down to the relevant part at the end.
(Dammit, tried to come up with a way to throw "sanitary" in that post, couldn't work it.)
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Post# 8816-11/8/2001-18:18 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore's first video (Full Speed Crash)
MESSAGE: Ok, you guys may want to buy an HE3t just so you can use the word Sanitary. I'd rather buy a Calypso so I can use the work "nutate". But then I'd have a Calypso instead of a HE3t.
And I win - I used BOTH "sanitary" and "nutate" in a post.
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Post# 8817-11/8/2001-18:33 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore's first video (Full Speed Crash)
MESSAGE: Hey, thats not like you, hope you`re not losing the magic touch!!!
Make sure you`ve got the valium ready for the final F&P spin crash action clip!!!
Mike
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Post# 8818-11/8/2001-18:35 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm coming out... of the linen closet!
MESSAGE: We'll Hi Jim, welcome to Applianceville, glad you joined us. Thanks for the manuals, they came out great. Out of pure webmaster curiosity how did you find us? As for your question about the animation, I produced it in Macromedia Flash.
Enjoy the club!
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Post# 8819-11/8/2001-18:40 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore's first video (Full Speed Crash)
MESSAGE: Naawww
I`d have to go for that rather spooky disturbing " Thor Finger Agitator" washer....
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Post# 8820-11/8/2001-18:54 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore's first video (Fingers and Hands)
MESSAGE: Can you imagine a little kid looking in that Thor and getting all creeped-out? "The hands are gonna getcha . . . eeeeyyahhhhhh!!!!!"
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Post# 8821-11/8/2001-18:58 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm coming out... of the linen closet!
MESSAGE: Welcome Jim!
I am your neighbor to the south in Orange County. Yay! We have another addition to the California contingent. I see you are from Santa Ana. I moved to Santa Ana from Newport Beach about a year ago. I live in the South Coast Metro area. I grew up with Westy Laundromats too. I know you'll love this club.
Rich
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Post# 8822-11/8/2001-19:29 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
A test for Sir Frigmore
MESSAGE: Sir Frigmore is washing my 17 year old sleeping bag. Can he get those old stains out? We'll see.
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Post# 8823-11/8/2001-19:47 ||| madigan (Santa Ana CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm coming out... of the linen closet! (HE3t - being wonderful...)
MESSAGE: I've even been able to get those nasty protein-based stains from the towels in my bedroom out!
jjm
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Post# 8824-11/8/2001-19:56 ||| madigan (Santa Ana CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm coming out... of the linen closet! (Laundry life changing...)
MESSAGE: Oh yeah - the old Maytag had a locking sliding lid. I went so far as to get a spare latch for it, but it disappeared about 3 moves ago, resulting in !boring laundry!...
Now I've even moved a chair into the garage - HE 3 Tee's more interesting than TV (well, maybe not 6 Feet Under or Oz (;-)...
I don't care what it's called - I call it CLEAN!
jjm
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Post# 8825-11/8/2001-20:03 ||| madigan (Santa Ana CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm coming out... of the linen closet! (AFWIW...)
MESSAGE: And For What It's Worth...
(:-)
jjm
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Post# 8826-11/8/2001-20:06 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Washer ID? (kelvinator)
MESSAGE: That is a beautiful Kelvinator - I have seen pics of this model before. Does anyone know the exact year it was made?
Peter
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Post# 8827-11/8/2001-20:07 ||| madigan (Santa Ana CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm coming out... of the linen closet! (How did I find U?)
MESSAGE: Uni -
Well, it was either from the GardenWeb Appliances site, or it was from a Google search for "HE3t washer"...
Are you Mac based, or Intel?
jjm
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Post# 8828-11/8/2001-20:08 ||| madigan (Santa Ana CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm coming out... of the linen closet! (SoCal...)
MESSAGE: golittlesport -
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Post# 8829-11/8/2001-20:09 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: A test for Sir Frigmore (It worked!)
MESSAGE: YAY! Frigmore does sleeping bags. My sleeping bag looks brand new now. I used Fab Rain Forest, set the washer to Heavy wash (it tumbles as it fills cool) using Hot wash and warm rinse. How did I get a warm rinse with a hot wash on a Frigmore? As soon as the washer filled, I turned the knob to warm rinse :-D.
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Post# 8830-11/8/2001-20:11 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm coming out... of the linen closet!
MESSAGE: Yes, I know Mike, I thought of you when I posted this comment. I knew you'd have something to say about it. Another differences in terms between our two countries. But, I love it. It's something else I learn here, but I new I would when you & the Australian contingent joint our fun little town. (International village).
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Post# 8831-11/8/2001-20:11 ||| madigan (Santa Ana CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm coming out... of the linen closet! (SoCal...)
MESSAGE: Oops - combination of tab and enter...
(BAD DOG!!)
golittlesport -
Does Seegerstrom & Raitt mean anything to you?
jjm
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Post# 8832-11/8/2001-20:14 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore's first video (Full Speed Crash)
MESSAGE: Glenn, you could have said you tried sanitizing the video down LOL to relavant part at the end.
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Post# 8833-11/8/2001-20:18 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore's first video (Sanitary videos)
MESSAGE: I almost did say that . . . but decided it still wasn't quite the right effect. :-D
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Post# 8834-11/8/2001-20:19 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm coming out... of the linen closet! (HE3t - being wonderful...)
MESSAGE: I'd love to make a comment here, but I better not. Woof.
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Post# 8835-11/8/2001-20:22 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm coming out... of the linen closet! (HE3t - being wonderful...)
MESSAGE: Hmmmm. Seems wrong somehow that a Hettie is the only way to accomplish that.
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Post# 8836-11/8/2001-20:25 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: A test for Sir Frigmore (It worked!)
MESSAGE: Jason, that's terrific. Congratulations. I thought of you today while in Wal-Mart. I had to go down 'THE ISLE' and spied the RF Fab. So I picked up the box and read it. Specifically mentioned FLers. I may have to spring for a box after all my A&H goes away, it's less than a dollar more. I think I'll give it a go in my Lady.
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Post# 8837-11/8/2001-20:25 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Washer ID? (Cinderella's Glass Shoe )
MESSAGE: Can you post a pic of the Do-All-Dial dial? Anybody have any literature or advertisements that can be scanned?
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Post# 8838-11/8/2001-20:26 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm coming out... of the linen closet! (HE3t - being wonderful...)
MESSAGE: Glen. SSSSSSSSSLLLLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!
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Post# 8839-11/8/2001-20:26 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm coming out... of the linen closet! (HE3t - being wonderful...)
MESSAGE: ;-p
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Post# 8840-11/8/2001-20:27 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Washer ID? (Cinderella's Glass Shoe )
MESSAGE: Do-All-dial almost sounds like do-or-die washing. Lends itself to obsessiveness.
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Post# 8841-11/8/2001-20:32 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm coming out... of the linen closet! (HE3t - being wonderful...)
MESSAGE: I may even have to include the brace & velcroe with that slap!
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Post# 8842-11/8/2001-21:36 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm coming out... of the linen closet! (How did I find U?)
MESSAGE: Hi Jjm, I'm all Windows-ME PC based. When I was a graphic designer I was Mac based, but you can pretty much do anything graphically now on a PC, and its so much more compatible with the workings of the web.
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Post# 8843-11/8/2001-21:49 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Washer ID? (Your Wish Is My Command)
MESSAGE: For you Glenn, anything...
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/miscbrands00/vwp?.dir=/quick+share&.src=ph&.dnm=Do-All-Dial.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/miscbrands00/lst%3f%26.dir=/quick%2bshare%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 8844-11/8/2001-21:54 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
The Aberdeen Farm Saga Continues
MESSAGE: Here's part II of our continuing story, we see the '61 and even the'56, BUT then OMG..
LINK: http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/aberdeen1957/lst?.dir=/Farm+Saga+2&.order=&.view=l&.src=bc&.done=http%3a//briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/aberdeen1957/lst%3f.dir=/Farm%2bSaga%2b2%26.src=bc%26.view=l
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Post# 8845-11/8/2001-22:14 ||| madigan (Santa Ana CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm coming out... of the linen closet! (HE3t - cleaning up after me...)
MESSAGE: C"x"m towels - yup, cleaner, brighter, whiter!
jjm
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Post# 8846-11/8/2001-22:15 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Aberdeen Farm Saga Continues
MESSAGE: Uni, sinice I'm video clip deprived, would you please send me an email that says what all Frigidaire's are viewed in these clips. I never knew anyone had found a 1956.
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Post# 8847-11/8/2001-22:17 ||| madigan (Santa Ana CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm coming out... of the linen closet! ((this site!))
MESSAGE: ... Applause, applause!!
jjm
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Post# 8848-11/8/2001-22:19 ||| madigan (Santa Ana CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Washer ID? (Magic Minute!?!)
MESSAGE: Be stil, my beating heart!
jjm
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Post# 8849-11/8/2001-22:21 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Aberdeen Farm Saga Continues
MESSAGE: Why can't you download the video?
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Post# 8850-11/8/2001-22:26 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm coming out... of the linen closet! (HE3t - being wonderful...)
MESSAGE: I guess that's what happens when you invite all of your friends over to help you create challenging laundry for your new machine.
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Post# 8851-11/8/2001-22:27 ||| madigan (Santa Ana CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Aberdeen Farm Saga Continues
MESSAGE: 1997? Really?
jjm
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Post# 8852-11/8/2001-22:29 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Washer ID? (Magic Minute)
MESSAGE: Whatever could that Magic Minute entail?
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Post# 8853-11/8/2001-22:34 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm coming out... of the linen closet! (HE3t - cleaning up after me...)
MESSAGE: The Sanitize cycle could come in handy.
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Post# 8854-11/8/2001-22:52 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Washer ID? (Your Wish Is My Command)
MESSAGE: Fabulous! It looks to have been back-lit? What are the two red indicators?
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Post# 8855-11/8/2001-23:34 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Aberdeen Farm Saga Continues
MESSAGE: OMG it's true - a syncro-swing! Should I assume we'll need gloves for our trip to the farm?
How long 'till April?
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Post# 8856-11/8/2001-23:38 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: STPP Est Arrive................
MESSAGE: Does your Calgon have phosphates? This is Sodium Tripoly Phosphate for water softening.
I bought a box of regular Tide the other day for fun (a lot of fun - BIG box!) and I had suds in the rollermatic Frigidaire coming over the top, gotta love soft water!
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Post# 8857-11/8/2001-23:51 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Washer ID? (Magic Minute)
MESSAGE: What was the magic minute and how did it work. How did it make the detergent foam up?
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Post# 8858-11/8/2001-00:19 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Aberdeen Farm Saga Continues (I'm amazed)
MESSAGE: I'm still amazed that I found other people that liked old washers. I thought it was just me that wanted to see an old washer running again.
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Post# 8859-11/8/2001-00:20 ||| lbcarguy (Long Beach, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE 1963-1965 Filter Flo Washer
MESSAGE: Hi,
We had one of that era (very similar to the one in the GE museum ad wallpaper). It was our famiily's first washer and we had until we moved when I was 18 and foolishly gave it away, in perfect condition.
It was turquoise but I would take any color.
Thanks,
Mike
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Post# 8860-11/8/2001-00:48 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Washer ID? (Magic Minute)
MESSAGE: The Kelvinator and her sister brand ABC-O-Matic were time-filled machines. "Magic Minute" refers to agitation beginning a minute or so before the fill was complete, giving the clothes a gentle scrubbing in a concentrated detergent solution, similar in concept to the Kenmore/Whirlpool Catalyst and F&P EcoSmart.
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Post# 8861-11/8/2001-01:54 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Aberdeen Farm Saga Continues
MESSAGE: I'm on dial up and have a 5-year old P166 PC. When I tried looking at the sand commercial, it was very grainy and no audio and went very slow. Heck, my Unimatic is in a Delicate cycle on the web page. That's how bad it is.
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Post# 8862-11/8/2001-01:59 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Washer ID? (Magic Minute)
MESSAGE: Wasn't the word "shampoo" included in some of the marketing terminology for this magic minute?
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Post# 8863-11/9/2001-04:46 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Washer ID? (Magic Minute)
MESSAGE: The picuture in Uni's photo album shows a lot of suds building up out of the agitator but no agitation.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/unimatic1140/vwp?.dir=/Kelvinator&.src=ph,%20ph&.dnm=Kelvinator+-+Magic+Minute.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/unimatic1140/vwp%3f.dir=/Frigidaire
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Post# 8864-11/9/2001-07:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Washer ID? (But it WAS agitating)
MESSAGE: But Arrrooohhh, that picture you posted a link to WAS agitating, its in the middle of the magic minute. On the same tape of Aberdeen Farm is video of the laundry party the night before we left, it shows the magic minute, I'll post that sometime after we finish viewing all the Farmsaga videos.
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Post# 8865-11/9/2001-07:04 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Aberdeen Farm Saga Continues
MESSAGE: Bob, the Westinghouse commercial video was very grainy to begin with. Try the first farm video and see if you can view it, the sound isn't as important as the picture. It might take 1/2 to download, but it's worth it.
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Post# 8866-11/9/2001-08:04 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
POD Love 50s Advertising
MESSAGE: I never really thought I would love a dryer but the Caloric dryer is beautiful. I thought it was a FL washer at first. Also, love the spacey looking lady and the kid. 50s ads were about the word "'matic". Ultramatic, Unimatic, Hydromatic, etc...
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Post# 8867-11/9/2001-08:48 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE 1963-1965 Filter Flo Washer
MESSAGE: Hi Mike, we'll we will keep a watch out, you never know. To bad you gave away your turquoise GE automatic, that would be really fun to have now! We all have something that we gave away or took to the crusher that we regret now. For me, it was my '53 Apex :<(
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Post# 8868-11/9/2001-09:01 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Aberdeen Farm Saga Continues (New Link)
MESSAGE: New Link to the video, since I believe we overloaded the first link at Yahoo...
IMPORTANT NOTE: When you guys view these videos please make sure you right click over the file name and select "Save Target As" and download it to your hard drive first. Then watch the video locally on your hard drive, this keeps our usage bandwidth down, in case you want to see the video more than once. Doing this will enable more people to download the video before we go over our bandwidth limit on Yahoo.
LINK: http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/aberdeen1957/lst?.dir=/Farm-Saga-2&.err=&.last=1&.ndnm=Farm+Saga+2&.view=l
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Post# 8869-11/9/2001-09:07 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Aberdeen Farm Saga Continues (New Link)
MESSAGE: Oops never mind I did that wrong, the whole Yahoo account is temporarily closed. The whole account has gone over its bandwidth now, so what I will do is when I get home tonight I move it over to another account.
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Post# 8870-11/9/2001-10:23 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
Today's POD
MESSAGE: I never even knew that Caloric even made dryers.... never saw one or knew anyone who had one before. Sometimes I wonder if living in the New York area meant missing out on things very available to others in the midwest, south, etc....
Great pic though - perfect for the era. That little elf with the tiny flame tips - kind of like a flaming Happy Hotpoint..............
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Post# 8871-11/9/2001-10:33 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
Whirlpool built OTR Micro Hood
MESSAGE: Just found out the problem with the Microwave.
Grease, food, etc is building up between the stirrer cover and top wall of the oven which heats up and catches fire. The fix is a new cover that will be siliconed in place and a thermal fuse over the area to prevent future meltdown.
I guess if people cleaned thier microwave they wouldn't have this problem.
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Post# 8872-11/9/2001-10:48 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigmore's first video (Temp combination)
MESSAGE: It takes one to know one Bob!
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Post# 8873-11/9/2001-11:07 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Washer ID? (Magic Minute)
MESSAGE: Hmmm, one minute is rather short for a good shampoo..
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Post# 8874-11/9/2001-11:11 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Love 50s Advertising
MESSAGE: I guess they didn't make a washer since there is not one in the ad, not even a non-recognisable one. I guess they supposed people boiled the laundry on their stoves.
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Post# 8875-11/9/2001-11:13 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Aberdeen Farm Saga Continues (New Link)
MESSAGE: I get already don't get acces to the album anymore.
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Post# 8876-11/9/2001-11:15 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Aberdeen Farm Saga Continues (New Link)
MESSAGE: Allright, it's Friday and I'm tired!!
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Post# 8877-11/9/2001-13:05 ||| Golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm coming out... of the linen closet! (SoCal...)
MESSAGE: Hi Jim
Yes, I know where Segerstrom & Raitt is. I live very close to that neighborhood. Like MacArthur and Fairview....
Rich (Golittlesport)
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Post# 8878-11/9/2001-13:07 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool built OTR Micro Hood
MESSAGE: Cleanliness, so important to family well being....
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Post# 8879-11/9/2001-13:56 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Washer ID? (What are whooshes?)
MESSAGE: The ad I have and am unable to scan - thank you Zerox, has the 1956 washer and dryer in Bermuda Pink. It does not have "magic minute" mentioned anywhere, but refers to this portion of the wash cycle as "automatic pre-treat."
The Kelvinator commercial in our Vintage Appliance Audio section talks about the Whooshes of suds through the agitator and the magic minute, magic minute...
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Post# 8880-11/9/2001-14:18 ||| madigan (Santa Ana CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm coming out... of the linen closet! (Neighbor!)
MESSAGE: golittlesport,
Small world syndrome strikes again!
jjm
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Post# 8881-11/9/2001-14:46 ||| Golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm coming out... of the linen closet! (Neighbor!)
MESSAGE: Hi Jim
Is that where you live now? (For some reason I thought you were from Los Angeles, but I see your profile says Santa Ana.) Why, I could just walk over and borrow a Surf tablet! Very small world. I bet we bought our washing machines and dryers at the same store.
Maybe we should discuss a laundry party! I'll bring the laundry, you supply the HE3T.
Rich
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Post# 8882-11/9/2001-16:41 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Love 50s Advertising
MESSAGE: ... Why its GREASED LIGHTENING! Go greased lightening, go grease lightnening.
Just love our Livvy. I remember when i was VERY little, I was trying to take apart the radio. My mum asked me why and I told her I wanted to let Olivia Newton John out so she could sing for us.
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Post# 8883-11/9/2001-16:43 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Washer ID? (But it WAS agitating)
MESSAGE: Ohh, so did it agitate slower then?
I guess the quetion will be answered when we see a video of it on the museum page. Cant wait!
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Post# 8884-11/9/2001-17:34 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Washer ID? (But it WAS agitating)
MESSAGE: ABC-O-Matic and early Kelvinator models were 1-speed, far as I know. Don't know if the Do-All-Dial Kelvinator was 2-speed.
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Post# 8885-11/9/2001-19:09 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Washer ID? (But it WAS agitating)
MESSAGE: Ahhh, no, its agitating at full speed----it's a still picture silly.
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Post# 8886-11/9/2001-19:11 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Aberdeen Farm Saga Continues (It's Fixed)
MESSAGE: Here is a new link for those who haven't seen The Aberdeen Saga, part 2. More parts will be coming soon.
LINK: http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/aberdeen1959/lst?&.dir=/Farm+Video+2&.src=bc&.view=l&.last=1
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Post# 8887-11/9/2001-19:45 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
Ok This is freaky
MESSAGE: Sir Frigmore meets the Beatles?
I started The Beatles Yellow Submarine Soundtrack and then when the sound of the water started going on the song Yellow Submarine, I started the washer on a normal wash (get it? water). Well, it seems that the washer works almost in time with the music. Very strange.
Yellow Submarine and Hey Bulldog consists of the wash cycle. Elenore Rigby starts right at the beginning of the short wash part. Watching the clothes tumble and hearing Eleanore Rigby is very soul stirring by the way. The washer begins its first spin on Love you To and All Together Now. Lucy in the sky with Diamonds is another tumble. Again, very mellow and moving. The songs on the CD go on while the washer runs. The very last song It's All Too Much is guess what? The Final Spin. The CD finishes before the washer but it's pretty freaky how it almost Synchronizes.
Now that everyone's classified me as looney, back to the classics..... :-D
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Post# 8888-11/9/2001-20:00 ||| madigan (Santa Ana CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm coming out... of the linen closet! (HE3t trauma...)
MESSAGE: Rich,
Yeah, we should get together for a laundry party sometime (if I ever get a working machine!) - none of my friends seem very interested in my new washer/dryer... (:-(
Just got the replacement HE3t this afternoon (a drum baffle was loose on the first one, which would have required a complete dismantle of the machine and a new drum... I didn't think this would be a good thing to have done by a repairman who had apparently gotten half a day's training on this machine 3 months ago and hasn't seen one since...) Looked good, no scratches or dents and started a cycle, so I signed for it and the installer left...
Then the trouble started. At the end of the cycle the machine just sat there with the door locked and 1 minute time of completion. It sat like that for a few minutes and then gave an F13 error, which means that it's dispenser system is upset.
If I had any service info on this thing, I'd take it apart to see if there was anything obviously wrong, like a loose connector, but since I don't I'll just wait till Monday for the repairman to show...
Foo.
jjm
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Post# 8889-11/9/2001-20:11 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm coming out... of the linen closet! (Take a look yourself)
MESSAGE: Pop the top off that bad boy. On a Frimgore it's some screws on the back. I don't know how comes apart a Hettie but it shouldn't be too hard. Look for loose wire, stuck mechanical things. Take the bottom panel off and check the drain hoses, make sure they're tight. I took the covers off my Frigmore to see what it's made of the first day I got it.
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Post# 8890-11/9/2001-20:36 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm coming out... of the linen closet! (HE3t trauma...)
MESSAGE: Madigan,
I hear that if you take the front panel off, there's some service info hidden inside... with error codes etc... or do you already know that?
Time to call Whirlpool or Sears and get a factory service manual for that puppy. A good idea for any complicated major appliance...
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Post# 8891-11/9/2001-20:47 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm coming out... of the linen closet! (HE3t trauma...)
MESSAGE: Jim, sorry you're still "baffled" even with the new replacement. Now you have a locked hung door with possible ill dispenser. I agree with spambdamn (another Rich)--he got the factory service manual for his Neppie and it's helped immensely. Could be a wise investment if you're at all handy plus it has some very valuable info and fascinating tidbits that us washerheads enjoy known of those details.
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Post# 8892-11/9/2001-20:49 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm coming out... of the linen closet! (HE3t trauma...)
MESSAGE: I've been following your saga on That Home Site.
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Post# 8893-11/9/2001-21:55 ||| madigan (Santa Ana CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm coming out... of the linen closet! (Popped the top of HE3t...)
MESSAGE: Nothing obviously wrong (except when did they stop color coding wiring?!?) inside - no connectors dangling loose, or cut wires... I tried reseating everything - no change. No mechanical interference - I was able to move the actuator by hand (with the water running and the dispenser drawer out - kind of like an electronically controlled shower massage...) Maybe the motor is dead...
Yah, I pulled the tech sheet from the first one and scanned it - check out the link if you need online access to the Owner's Manuals and Tech sheets...
Can a layman still get factory manuals for appliances? I keep seeing these "generic, covers most models" books from GE and I think Whirlpool, but I've not seen any listings or part numbers for the OFFICIAL factory manuals... I agree - I've always tried to get a manual for major devices. Somewhere I have an old Whirlpool manual and a Maytag manual for my old stack set...
jjm
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/the1madbear
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Post# 8894-11/9/2001-01:21 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm coming out... of the linen closet! (Popped the top of HE3t...)
MESSAGE: Well, I have not yet managed to get the factory service manual for the Kitchenaid (made by Whirlpool) refrigerators I bought last winter. Maytag was no problem; plus, the manuals were relatively cheap - under $10 each as I recall. I'm used to paying $100 for a car service manual. I will have to try Kitchenaid/Whirlpool again. I think the last time I asked, they sent me a generic manual. Phooey.
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Post# 8895-11/10/2001-10:58 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Washer ID? (POD 11/10 (Magic Minute))
MESSAGE: See, I WAS RIGHT. Shampoo washing is mentioned in the Kelvinator advertisemnt. I humbly have to say, it's good to be right for a change in this sea of true experts. Guess it goes to show ya that I did pay attention to the marketing side of things. It my thang.
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Post# 8896-11/10/2001-11:15 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Washer ID? (POD 11/10 (Magic Minute))
MESSAGE: I think we should see the expert advice of a professional shampooologist to determine the correlation between shampoo washing and cleaning efficiency. For example, are shampoo wash units measured in German degrees, grains, or ppm? What is the testing protocol to determing shampoo wash units? Is there an SOP (Standard Operating Procedure) for optimizing shampoo washing?
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Post# 8897-11/10/2001-14:53 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
The Wisk Tablet coupon.....
MESSAGE: came in the mail today. YAY!! It's a good thing too, I used all the Wisk HE and I needed something to scrub the porch with so I used all the Mountain Spring on that.
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Post# 8898-11/10/2001-14:53 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Washer ID? (POD 11/10 (Magic Minute))
MESSAGE: Rich, the ABC-O-Matci is one of Uni's other most favorite washers--for its gentleness, true cleaning effectiveness (shampoo magic minute), and magnaemouse overflow rinsing. Plus it's just damn fun to watch as it washes and spashes sudsy water all over the window.
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Post# 8899-11/10/2001-14:58 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
LaFrance
MESSAGE: Okay, who on here can swear to me that LaFrance performs just as outstanding as Clorox Chlroine Bleach, if not better than. I finally found a box in one of my 2 grocery store chains here, but am not willing to invest in it unless several people can give me "walk on water" testimonials vs. chlorine bleach. I'm a dedicated chlorine bleach user for whites.
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Post# 8900-11/10/2001-15:15 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
STTP Trip
MESSAGE: I ordered my first bucket of STTP last week. They shipped it via UPS on Tuesday with an estimated delivery date of Monday. Well, according the the tracking page, it arrived in the suburbs (about 10 miles from my house) on Thursday. Since then it has circled the city, stopping at various suburban UPS centers. They promised it for Monday, and by god they're going to be sure I get it on Monday...
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Post# 8901-11/10/2001-15:41 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: We'll, we found some fun things today out at the sales, as well as something that someone here in Applianceville has been patiently waiting for...
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/estatesale6/lst?&.dir=/Estate+Sale+Saturday+Nov+10+2001&.src=ph&.begin=9999&.view=t&.order=&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/estatesale6/lst%3f%26.dir=/Estate%2bSale%2bSaturday%2bNov%2b10%2b2001%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 8902-11/10/2001-15:52 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: The oiltag reminds me of the ones you see in the background of the later episodes of Beverly Hillbillies (but I think there's was harvest gold).
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Post# 8903-11/10/2001-15:59 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Washer ID? (POD 11/10 (Magic Minute))
MESSAGE: I don't know Rich, what I do is when I'm in the shower I take the shampoo and start making the ABC/Kelvinator agitation sounds, then I rub the shampoo into my hair using the same kind of obrital motion. My hair always comes out spotless! Strange, doesn't everyone do that?
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Post# 8904-11/10/2001-16:22 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: YAYYYYYYYYYY!! Noting sucks like an Electrolux....well almost nothing.
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Post# 8905-11/10/2001-16:33 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
Estate Sale - Laundry Aid Bonanza
MESSAGE: My parents are in town visiting so Skyler, mom and I went saleing this morning. We found a whole box full of vintage laundry supplies, some turquoise Pyrex in beautiful condition and a fun vintage wallpaper sample book.
At the same house we found the laundry aids there was a beautiful coppertone brown Speed Queen washer and dryer. They were leaving it in the house for the people who are renting it for the next six months (they are building - got the whole story - ugh!) so I left my card and told them I'd take the washer and dryer when they were done or when it broke down, whichever comes first. The washer would make a nice compliment to the harvest gold! But seriously, it was a big-tub model with a stainless tub and I think I know someone who needs one......
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Post# 8906-11/10/2001-16:34 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale - Laundry Aid Bonanza (Oops I did it again! )
MESSAGE: Here's the link - just be quiet golittlesport!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/wshrboy/vwp?.dir=/Estate+Sale+Finds+9-08-01&.dnm=11-10-01+Finds.jpg&.src=ph
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Post# 8907-11/10/2001-16:37 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: If oiltag was avocado green, she could be named Olive Oil!!!
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Post# 8908-11/10/2001-16:41 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (loadin' up the truck)
MESSAGE: I just figure I'm going to have to drive my pickup to Uni's house and go Estate saleing with him. That console TV, the poor Maytag (can he be fixed?), and that SUNBEAM MIXMASTER!!!! The early deco model. We don't have estate sales around here :-(
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Post# 8909-11/10/2001-16:41 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (be nice Bob)
MESSAGE: If the poor Maytag was avocado, I would've cried to see it have to go to the Krusher. I would've saved it.
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Post# 8910-11/10/2001-16:41 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale - Laundry Aid Bonanza (Oops I did it again! )
MESSAGE: And what smart-ass comment is Rich (golittlesport) supposed to suppress may I ask? Of course, he'd NEVER think of doing or saying anything such as that LOL.
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Post# 8911-11/10/2001-16:43 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (be nice Bob)
MESSAGE: I as just trying to be punny. That washer & dryer are way too old for the color avocado green. That color was YEARS down the road after this model!!!
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Post# 8912-11/10/2001-16:45 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (avocado)
MESSAGE: Yeah, that Maytag is late 50s/early 60s. So it would've been turquoise.
Can an oiltag be fixed?
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Post# 8913-11/10/2001-16:51 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Maytag Sprinkler!)
MESSAGE: Please tell me you bought that Maytag sprinkler attachment for the dryer (I know you could have figured out a way!) I have only ever seen pictures of those. There was one on Ebay that went for $86 a while back. Too bad that Maytag washer wasn't a pretty pastel, but then you'd have two things to get when you pop back over there tomorrow... ;-)
Love the detergents - does the Gain still smell nice?
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Post# 8914-11/10/2001-17:07 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (avocado)
MESSAGE: The Maytag could be restored very easily, all of the parts are still available, but it's not pink...
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Post# 8915-11/10/2001-18:08 ||| madigan (Santa Ana CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Almost my old Maytag!)
MESSAGE: An A900! but not coppertone (:-(
Was that the matching dryer (I never had...)?
AND my mother's old Electrolux - no power nozzle?
jjm
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Post# 8916-11/10/2001-18:51 ||| mooney6au (Sydney, Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigemore's first day (pics) (Meile)
MESSAGE: Angus,
I am sure that your friend Judy will love her Meile. I have the 5kg W918 version and matching condenser dryer. I never cease to be amazed how it can get quite grubby and stained clothes (I work in horticulture) back to looking like new. The 1600rpm spin sounds amazing - it goes through three steps to get to the final spin which it holds for 2minutes. Not a lot of drying left to do after that.
Greg
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Post# 8917-11/10/2001-18:57 ||| mooney6au (Sydney, Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Robert,
I always love to look at your estate sales. I don't know of anything similar in Australia. Are they what we would call "clearing sales" when someone has decided to sell up or they literally the selling of the estate after a death? Mostly these clearing sales in Australia happen on ranches and rural properties and mostly what is up for sale is farm equipment.
It is interesting to watch the changing seasons in your pics especially as we approach summer and for you all of the leaves have fallen.
What was the age of the "oiltag" It look in good condition apart from the oil leak problem.
Thanks again for your terrific site, all of the work that you put into it and to all of the other members who make it work. My favourite site.
Greg
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Post# 8918-11/10/2001-20:04 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (avocado)
MESSAGE: Greg, I bet you'd have jumped at the chance if it were turquoise too, since you still miss that set.
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Post# 8919-11/10/2001-20:07 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Almost my old Maytag!)
MESSAGE: yes, Jim, that was the matching dryer too. It was a beautiful set 'cept for the oil patch underneath.
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Post# 8920-11/10/2001-21:19 ||| madigan (Santa Ana CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Almost my old Maytag!)
MESSAGE: Ahh - mechanical problems can be dealt with...
If I found a set like that nearby, I'd be sorely tempted...
How I remember the "click, click, tick tick tick" sound of the timer after the program button was pushed... the fluorescent light would flash a couple of times and then come on, and steam would start to rise from around the lid...
Memories...
jjm
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Post# 8921-11/10/2001-22:03 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (loadin' up the truck)
MESSAGE: I was thinking the same thing - but I don't have a truck. I am getting very tired of the boring estate sales here..........
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Post# 8922-11/10/2001-22:05 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigemore's first day (pics) (Meile)
MESSAGE: Actually - her Miele is the US W1926 model - larger capacity than the other Mieles, but only spins at 1200 RPMs. Still, that should make the drying time significantly less..
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Post# 8923-11/10/2001-22:32 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale - Laundry Aid Bonanza (Oops I did it again! )
MESSAGE: Great finds Greg! I love the Action bleach packets and the vintage wallpaper book looks like a lot of fun.
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Post# 8924-11/10/2001-22:33 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (loadin' up the truck)
MESSAGE: Come on up Jason, I can't belive you don't have estate sales in New Orleans.
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Post# 8925-11/10/2001-22:36 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Maytag Sprinkler!)
MESSAGE: $86 bucks wow, Ron Johnson at Central Washer service used to have a copule of boxes filled with those Maytag Sprinklers, had I only known. Sorry Greg, I didn't pick up the one at the sale today, but ya never know, we might go back tomorrow. Those Maytag sprinklers caused many dryer fires.
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Post# 8926-11/10/2001-22:37 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale - Laundry Aid Bonanza
MESSAGE: What no picture of the Speed Queens?
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Post# 8927-11/10/2001-22:39 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Almost my old Maytag!)
MESSAGE: This Electrolux was the model G, which came in turquoise, but I didn't see the power nozzel anywhere around. I do see the power nozzels quite often though. I have a G (as well as other models) and use it for vacuuming quite often, the Electroluxs' are my favorite.
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Post# 8928-11/10/2001-22:44 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Hi Greg, the estate sales here are mainly for when people have passed away and the family is selling everything in their home.
I'm glad you enjoy the estate sale pictures, they are fun to take, and people always think I'm nuts taking these pictures, and of course they're right. The Oiltag was from the early 1960's.
If you think the seasons are interesting to watch now, wait till you see what happens next month! I can't wait for our first blizzard of the season, the first one is always the most exciting.
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Post# 8929-11/10/2001-00:22 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale - Laundry Aid Bonanza
MESSAGE: I actually left the camera in the car for that house as I was thinking there wouldn't be anything to snap - who knew!
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Post# 8930-11/10/2001-00:41 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale - Laundry Aid Bonanza
MESSAGE: That'll lern ya Gregster to leeve the kamra in da kar.
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Post# 8931-11/11/2001-07:03 ||| Filterflo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT:
New Member to a FABULOUS GROUP!!!
MESSAGE: Hi All,
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Post# 8932-11/11/2001-07:08 ||| Filterflo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT:
New Member to a FABULOUS GROUP!!!
MESSAGE: Hi All,
I am the person profiled in the Knight-Ridder newspaper article on old appliances, and MANY thanks to member Gansky1 for calling me and informing me that this club exists. I have collected old appliances for a long time, with an emphasis on washing machines, and am so excited to find this group. Eager to talk and meet other members that share similar interests (I also collect antique cars, TV sets, gadgets). I am an estate liquidator and find lots of items in my business dealings. Am always eager to find homes for some of the items I cannot find room for!!! My home phone is 330 928 1371 if anyone would like to give me a call. Thanks FilterFlo (Jimmy Scichilone,Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio
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Post# 8933-11/11/2001-07:09 ||| Filterflo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT:
New Member to a FABULOUS GROUP!!!
MESSAGE: Hi All,
I am the person profiled in the Knight-Ridder newspaper article on old appliances, and MANY thanks to member Gansky1 for calling me and informing me that this club exists. I have collected old appliances for a long time, with an emphasis on washing machines, and am so excited to find this group. Eager to talk and meet other members that share similar interests (I also collect antique cars, TV sets, gadgets). I am an estate liquidator and find lots of items in my business dealings. Am always eager to find homes for some of the items I cannot find room for!!! My home phone is 330 928 1371 if anyone would like to give me a call. Thanks FilterFlo (Jimmy Scichilone,Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio
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Post# 8934-11/11/2001-07:21 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Last Night's Events ("
hosts with the most"
)
MESSAGE: Thanks to Robert and Neal for a great evening in washer "heaven". After a great dinner & conversation, we made our way to the "shrine" and got better acquainted with the Frigidaire', Lady K & ABC. Robert is in the process of reworking a Unimatic mechanism........what a fascinating engineering marvel. The simplicity is truly amazing. Anyway as you can imagine the time slipped by so quickly......but again, in the company of wonderful hosts.
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Post# 8935-11/11/2001-08:31 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (we don't)
MESSAGE: I check the paper every week and there's plenty garage sales. I have found a few great 50s records including an original Bing Crosby Christmas album, and a neat little green GE clock. But no estate sales.
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Post# 8936-11/11/2001-08:54 ||| trainguy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (None Here Either)
MESSAGE: It's amazing that a city the size of Pittsburgh has at most two listings per week for estate sales. Most of the time they turn out to be garage sales. I think Pittsburgers relate the word estate to a country home with a Mercedes, sauna, and room for a pony. However I, too, have a truck and am ready to go South Dakota in the Spring!
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Post# 8937-11/11/2001-09:01 ||| trainguy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Member to a FABULOUS GROUP!!!
MESSAGE: Welcome FilterFlo! I don't live all that far from you. I'll give you a ring sometime soon.
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Post# 8938-11/11/2001-09:07 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Pennsylvania)
MESSAGE: If I lived anywhere in Pennsylvania I'd be in heaven. Why?
Knoebels Amusement Park, Conneaut Lake Park, Kennywood, Dorney Park to name a few.
The Phoenix rules.
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Post# 8939-11/11/2001-09:09 ||| Jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Last Night's Events (wow)
MESSAGE: I hope my work sends me to Minnesota for something so I can go see The Shrine. WOW
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Post# 8940-11/11/2001-09:13 ||| trainguy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
Do I Win?
MESSAGE: Uni, You brought back and oldie but goodie memory from my college daze with your 'ztestuser' profile. We were given an assignment to read 100 pages and then answer the questions, with the emphasis on the read first part. I read two pages and found a hidden phrase 'stop and call your professor immediately' which I did. He said not to tell anyone and the assignment was over for me and I passed the test. The next day when he said to pass in the homework, I thought I did something wrong. EVERYONE else was turning in paperwork. After he collected it, he threw it all away. Everyone's chin hit their table at the same time. I spent only 15 minutes, but everyone else spent about 6 hours on the test part. NO ONE ELSE listened to the professor and actually read the assignment. Engineers - go figure us out. Amazing how a little thing like 'ignore this profile, this is a test' will allow a person to ramble on like I did. Thanks for bringing this memory back. TrainGuy
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Post# 8941-11/11/2001-09:16 ||| trainguy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
...and by the way,
MESSAGE: I'm still working on this digital camera thing. I just found out that the tray I thought was beverage holder is actually where a disc goes to load a program to do, well, whatever it's supposed to do, I guess. Working on a unimatic is SOOOOOOOOOOOOO much easier.
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Post# 8942-11/11/2001-09:18 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Member to a FABULOUS GROUP!!!
MESSAGE: Welcome - glad you made it to a new "home" on the web for us appliance nuts!
I really enjoyed talking with you the other night, remember when you are on your trek to California, you are more than welcome here for some washer play!
The links section is full - be sure to check them out, the photos of everyone's collections, restorations and photos of the Applianceville Convention this last August in Minneapolis.
Enjoy the site! Greg
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Post# 8943-11/11/2001-09:19 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (we don't)
MESSAGE: Jingle Bells is my favorite on that album!
Oh we'll have a lot of fun....
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Post# 8944-11/11/2001-09:22 ||| trainguy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Pennsylvania)
MESSAGE: Jason, I live about 45 minutes from Kennywood. I could ride the coasters all day long.
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Post# 8945-11/11/2001-09:40 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (lucky dog)
MESSAGE: Phantom's Revenge is one of my favorites. I like that long drop through the Thunderbolt. Talk about fast. Next year take a trip up I-79 to Conneaut Lake Park and ride the Blue Streak. Now that's a scary coaster if I ever saw one. It's rough.
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Post# 8946-11/11/2001-10:12 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
POD Simple yet Beautiful
MESSAGE: The simplicity of an early 50s Unimatic is overwhelming. It's truly sad that Frigidaire stopped making the pulsators and switched over to a regular back-and-forth agitator motion.
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Post# 8947-11/11/2001-11:49 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Member to a FABULOUS GROUP!!!
MESSAGE: Jimmy, please tell us what washers you have in your collection and which ones might be available for sale? What phase of restoration, if any, are any of them in? And BTW, WELCOME. Glad you finally found us. THANK YOU GREG!!!!
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Post# 8948-11/11/2001-12:21 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
Lost messages
MESSAGE: Strange... I get into Applianceville, and I see a posting by Bob about LaFrance at about a 2pm military time stamp. I log in, and now those posts are gone, and the last one I see is at 11am.
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Post# 8949-11/11/2001-12:33 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale - Laundry Aid Bonanza (I want a big one)
MESSAGE: Tub, that is! Thanks for thinking of me, Greg!!! Let me know when I can come fetch it! Did the rest of the machine appear in good condition?
Congrats on your soap and wallpaper harvest!
-ph
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Post# 8950-11/11/2001-12:41 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: LaFrance
MESSAGE: HERE'S the post! I don't know what happened!
Bob, my name is Peter. I'm the one that sank in the water until the Lord pulled me out, so I'm in no position to walk on the stuff. Besides, that soft, STPP water has no surface tension anyway...
I won't swear by LaFrance, but I have notice then when folding my whites in front of a window or in natural light, they do appear to be a bit whiter to me. I think my clothes have a rusty tint to them anyway due to the rusty galvanized pipes at home, but they do appear a bit whiter. I think it's worth the price at least to see. And the pretty blue water! And that light rose scent! It's not an entirely unpleasant experience.
-ph
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Post# 8951-11/11/2001-12:43 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (be nice Bob)
MESSAGE: I tend to disagree. I found an avocado early Maytag model that was too far gone recently. And there was that coppertone old set on eBay recently.
-ph
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Post# 8952-11/11/2001-12:57 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Ha ha ha...Olive Oil...you're killing me!!!
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Post# 8953-11/11/2001-12:57 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
WID and MW
MESSAGE: Yesterday, in the very, very front of a large delivery truck, behind a bunch of refrigerators and stoves, I found a 1-18 model WID and another gold Montgomery Ward dryer. Let's see if the boys who unload the truck Monday will read the "sold" tags and signs I put on them and put these aside for me.
-ph
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Post# 8954-11/11/2001-13:03 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm coming out... of the linen closet! (Popped the top of HE3t...)
MESSAGE: JJM,
Sorry to hear about that trauma drama. Sux that a brand new appliance can have this much trouble. Sux even more that something electrical rather than mechanical is wrong. Hope it all works out in your favor...
-ph
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Post# 8955-11/11/2001-13:05 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Member to a FABULOUS GROUP!!!
MESSAGE: Hi Jimmie
Hello and welcome. Glad you made it to our club.
Please let me know if you come across a 55 Frigidaire Imperial Unimatic washer while you're liquidating estates. Shipping is no object.
Do you have photos of your collection?
Rich
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Post# 8956-11/11/2001-13:12 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Kennywood amusement park)
MESSAGE: I used to have my grade school picnic at Kennywood Park every year when I lived in Pittsburgh PA. It seemed HUGE back then. Now I live by Disneyland (yawn).
My sister visited Pittsburgh last summer and took her kids to Kennywood. She said "Noah's Ark" is still there. I remember that ride from 40 years ago!
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Post# 8957-11/11/2001-13:12 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale - Laundry Aid Bonanza (I want a big one)
MESSAGE: Hope for the call to come to pick it up - hopefully won't be too long!
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Post# 8958-11/11/2001-14:18 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
Sunday Afternoon
MESSAGE: Saturday was pretty busy, but today, was catch up around the house day. I can't believe Rhinnie actually left wash for me to do. Whites in the AEG (of course), towels in the Kenmore FL and Polo shirts in the Rapidry 1000. (Picture of Rhinnie folding)
My 'finds' last week were a late '70's Kenmore gas dryer with Greg's name on it (let me know when you're coming to get it, Greg) and a filter (I hope it fits) for PeterH's Kenmore dryer.
Hope you guy's enjoy the slide show.
Steve 1-18
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/svb14_30813/slideshow?&.dir=/Sunday+20011111&.src=ph&.view=t
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Post# 8959-11/11/2001-14:35 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: LaFrance
MESSAGE: I second Peter's recommendation - I rarely use chlorine bleach anymore (except for rags) and really don't miss it much. I do an enzyme soak, then wash with LaFrance and detergent - beautiful everytime.
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Post# 8960-11/11/2001-14:42 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sunday Afternoon
MESSAGE: Can't see the pictures - restricted area, but if I had venture a guess, I would say that KM dryer would have to be gold to have my name on it!
Pining for pink...Greg
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Post# 8961-11/11/2001-14:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Member to a FABULOUS GROUP!!!
MESSAGE: Hi Jimmy and a very warm welcome to the club! Sounds like you'll fit right in with out gang! We would love to hear about some of the things you have in your collection, please do tell.
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Post# 8962-11/11/2001-14:53 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (be nice Bob)
MESSAGE: Peter, oiltags dryer mate had that vertical handle on the door. Very early 60s, long before avocado. Now, coppertone, that's another story. Since we had coppertone appliancess in the 1961 house, the Myg pair that was in the laundry room for the parade of homes was also coppertone & it had that handle on the dryer too. Not the "knob" that you pulled as found on later dryers. Avocado didn't come around until 1966/67 at the earliest.
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Post# 8963-11/11/2001-14:55 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Last Night's Events
MESSAGE: It was so nice to see you Leslie, its always nice to have people over who "truly" appreciate the collection.
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Post# 8964-11/11/2001-14:57 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Do I Win?
MESSAGE: Yes I was doing some testing on the my coding of the login part of the system. I should go back and delete that now.
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Post# 8965-11/11/2001-14:58 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Kennywood amusement park)
MESSAGE: Rich you animal you, didn't you come over on the originan Noah's Ark???
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Post# 8966-11/11/2001-15:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
A Lovely Evening
MESSAGE: Karen (Miss Jet Cone) invited Neal and myself over to her and her husband David house last night for a wonderful meal and evening. She was kind enough to let me photograph her wonderful appliance collection to share with you guys. She has some really COOL things, including the Suzy Homemaker washer that I had to beg my parents for over three years to buy for me.
Thanks again Karen!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/estatesale6/lst?&.dir=/Karen-Miss+Jet+Cone%27s+Collection&.src=ph&.view=t&start=1&.rand=111120514470
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Post# 8967-11/11/2001-15:05 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Kennywood amusement park)
MESSAGE: Although I "better be nice", I'm not much behind you in age. I could have been original equipment too.
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Post# 8968-11/11/2001-15:26 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: LaFrance
MESSAGE: Greg, I'm sure your enzyme soak is a vintage Biz or Axion. But, I've been using today's Biz with some very nice results on the portein/blood stains I've had to deal with. Soaking for a couple of hours or overnight.
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Post# 8969-11/11/2001-15:30 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sunday Afternoon
MESSAGE: Same rewstricted area error message too Steve.
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Post# 8970-11/11/2001-15:32 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sunday Afternoon (MY Sunday afternoon)
MESSAGE: Okay y'all, do't keel over when I tell y'all this. Given many of you basically know my laundry habits (once a month or every 3 weeks or so, if not more) I'm actually doing 4 loads that have accummulated over the last week to 10 days this afterrnoon. (Now, don't everyone get the vapors).
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Post# 8971-11/11/2001-15:38 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Lovely Evening
MESSAGE: Wow, caren could really cook and clean up with that collection. All she needs now is a dishwasher collection and a vacuume collection. (BTW, what brands of regular kitchen major appliances do they have?)
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Post# 8972-11/11/2001-16:27 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sunday Afternoon (Link now available)
MESSAGE: Sorry, the link is now open!
Steve 1-18
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/svb14_30813/slideshow?&.dir=/Sunday+20011111&.src=ph&.view=t
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Post# 8973-11/11/2001-16:29 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Lovely Evening
MESSAGE: Robert,
Thanks for the photos. Karen, how neat!
Steve 1-18
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Post# 8974-11/11/2001-17:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Lovely Evening
MESSAGE: Thanks for posting the pictures Robert! Karen, you have some outstanding things in your housewares collections - and the Suzy Homemaker stuff is very stunning indeed, I had no idea there was that much available!
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Post# 8975-11/11/2001-17:30 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sunday Afternoon (MY Sunday afternoon)
MESSAGE: Well this could be the begining of a whole new world for you Bob.
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Post# 8976-11/11/2001-17:32 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sunday Afternoon (It is gold - how did I know!)
MESSAGE: For it's age, it is in remarkable condition. Are you going to keep this one to use? I've given thought to having one (doesn't have to be gold) in the garage for those big load drying jobs. Would be nice in the summer also to keep the A/C inside the house.
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Post# 8977-11/11/2001-17:34 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sunday Afternoon (MY Sunday afternoon)
MESSAGE: Well, you see how much fun it can be? I used to wash 4-5 loads twice a week, but lately have been washing almost daily. Still won't iron though...
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Post# 8978-11/11/2001-18:10 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sunday Afternoon (MY Sunday afternoon)
MESSAGE: I'm glad y'all are all so excited for me. But, mind you, these loads consisted of 1 full one and 3 that were 3/4 full, so I could justify doing them. Plus, two dealt with that post-surgical stuff. Thanks for givin' me da BIZness. But, I doubt I'll be doing this on a regular basis. It just takes time for me to generate enough wash of each pile to justify running the machine.
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Post# 8979-11/11/2001-19:44 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: LaFrance
MESSAGE: Bob - FYI and you may already know this but BIZ, along with Oxydol has been sold to a company called Redox Brands. I do not know if the BIZ formula will change under them, but I am still able to find the P&G Biz in some of my markets. So, I have been stocking up......
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Post# 8980-11/11/2001-19:46 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sunday Afternoon (MY Sunday afternoon)
MESSAGE: Too late, I am already laid out on my fainting couch in the "orangerie" dabbing at my feverish brow with a cologne dampened cloth......
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Post# 8981-11/11/2001-19:47 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Lovely Evening
MESSAGE: Many thanks to both Robert and Karen for the lovely pictures................
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Post# 8982-11/11/2001-19:51 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Member to a FABULOUS GROUP!!!
MESSAGE: Welcome Jimmie - I look forward to seeing pictures of and hearing about some of your vintage stock. This is a fun group - you will have a great time.........
Anthony
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Post# 8983-11/11/2001-20:07 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT:
Happy 90th Birthday Whirlpool Corp.
MESSAGE: Somewhat belatedly; Whirlpool celebrated it's 90 anniversary today. Yay!
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Post# 8984-11/11/2001-20:21 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy 90th Birthday Whirlpool Corp.
MESSAGE: Congratulations Leslie on such an aged achievement. You know, I bet it's the only lady that's allowed to get more agitated as she gets older; chill out when she wants to; get boiling mad any time; and go for a tumble whenever she feels like it. And because of proper care, I bet she's never had a wrinkle or a crease due to her cool down baths. And naturally, being a gentile lady, she never needed a super scour either. After all, she's a real dish!!!
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Post# 8985-11/11/2001-20:24 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: LaFrance
MESSAGE: Anthony, I just checked my box, it's the Redox made one. So far, no complaints. I've ben quite amazed quite frankly. Better performer than Clorox 2, but it's expensive!!!!
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Post# 8986-11/11/2001-20:28 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sunday Afternoon (MY Sunday afternoon)
MESSAGE: Sorry I made you faint Anthony, but I could make a comment such as you're the first guy that's swooned over me ever--even if it was because of laundry LOL. At this age in life, I'll take it any way I can get it.
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Post# 8987-11/11/2001-20:36 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sunday Afternoon (MY Sunday afternoon)
MESSAGE: Well, everything has been washed & or BIZzed/soaked & washed. All nice & clean, stian-free. Oh hell, just realized, it all has to be folded. Nothing hung!!!!!!!
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Post# 8988-11/11/2001-21:07 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy 90th Birthday Whirlpool Corp.
MESSAGE: I just finished watching the free video from Whirlpool & Lowes "Imagine The Possibilities With Whirlpool Home Appliances." A quick overview of the WP TOL appliances, well done and interesting to watch. The washer they used was the Catalyst & Senseon dryer - some neat video of the Catalyst cycle and some of slow agitation on low water level.
Happy birthday Whirlpool!
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Post# 8989-11/11/2001-21:42 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: LaFrance (Vive La France!)
MESSAGE: Vive la France, mais... I put my faith in hot water, STPP, enzymes and oxygen bleach...
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Post# 8990-11/11/2001-23:48 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Lovely Evening (Wow!)
MESSAGE: What a grand collection Miss Jetcone has! We had the Suzy Homemaker Combo Washer (I didn't remember that it was dubbed a Combo, but I did remember the "Wash" and "Jet Wash" and "Spin" buttons -- if the buttons were worked in just the right way, the basket became free-spinning), and the regular stove (not the Super Oven). I had NO IDEA there were so many other items.
That chrome agitator cap on the Whirlpool wringer is spiffy. And the extractor and the little Haier are very kewl.
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Post# 8991-11/11/2001-23:54 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: LaFrance (Stain Removal)
MESSAGE: I dripped red sweet/sour sauce on a yellow knit pullover last Friday afternoon. It sat until late Saturday night. Rubbed it with a Shout stain stick, ran it through the F&P with the rest of a load with Bravo on Delicate, warm, 15 minute wash, plus 2 hour soak. Success.
There was another knit pullover in the same load, with a spot of unknown origin, that sat for three or four days. Also treated with Shout right before the wash, also success.
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Post# 8992-11/12/2001-03:29 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
POD - Time-Line RCA Whirlpool
MESSAGE: Spiffy! What year is it?
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Post# 8993-11/12/2001-04:32 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Hi Robert
Thanks for the pics, really missing those sales, should start a trend over here!!!
When will you know about the Couch???....
Mike
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Post# 8994-11/12/2001-04:35 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale - Laundry Aid Bonanza (Oops I did it again! )
MESSAGE: Hi Greg
Glad to see you`re keeping up the good finds!!!
where wallpaper sample books readily available???, over here you only ever saw them in shops etc...
Mike
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Post# 8995-11/12/2001-04:37 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Maytag Sprinkler!)
MESSAGE: Greg
What and where is the Maytag sprinkler attchmentin the pics, and what does it doo??
Mike
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Post# 8996-11/12/2001-04:40 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigemore's first day (pics) (Meile)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg
How are things down under, any luck with the Servis Wilkins finds yet???
How long does a load of towels take in the dondensor dryer from 1600rpm...(assuming you use the dryer with all your heat)
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 8997-11/12/2001-04:53 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Member to a FABULOUS GROUP!!!
MESSAGE: Welcome to the club Jimmy from here in the UK
Got a feeling you`le be getting lots of phone calls, look forward to seeing your collection..
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 8998-11/12/2001-04:58 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sunday Afternoon (& Saturday Mornings)
MESSAGE: Hi Steve
Good to see you "out on the trail" again, some many colourful appliances...
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 8999-11/12/2001-05:02 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Lovely Evening
MESSAGE: Robert
What a FAB collection, thanks for the pics, and of course those "Classic British Kenwood Chefs"
Mike
p.s missed the pics of you with your water meter & moist towellettes, checking how much water the "hettie eye dropper door wash really uses"LOL
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Post# 9000-11/12/2001-05:05 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: LaFrance (Stain Removal)
MESSAGE: Hi Glen
You working late again.... dare we ask what the stain of unknown origin is, or where you enjoying yourself to much to remember!!!
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 9001-11/12/2001-05:12 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sir Frigemore's first day (pics) (Meile)
MESSAGE: Hey Chester Mike. A few weeks ago out jogging I saw a Wilkins Servis Twin Tub just like my Nan used to have and sit me up on top of when I was a little kid! I was so excited. It was so much smaller than I remembered.
Anyway there is a picture of it in the Default album on the Twin Tub Emporium on Yahoo Clubs. Its Picture number 5, Servis Supertwin Mark 1. It was the exact same model.
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Post# 9002-11/12/2001-06:10 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: LaFrance (Vive La France!)
MESSAGE: Moi aussi - Le couleur de l'eau avec LaFrance est tres appetisant, mais mon combination favorit pour lignes blancs est "le STPP", detersif et un petit peu du javellissant (au besoin). Et bien sur, "bleu liquide" pour le rince finale. I have no idea what I just wrote..........................
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Post# 9003-11/12/2001-06:56 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD - Time-Line RCA Whirlpool ('58)
MESSAGE: 1958
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Post# 9004-11/12/2001-06:58 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Hi Mike, we would have heard yesterday, and we didn't so someone else put in a higher bid. That's OK though, I really was not disappointed.
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Post# 9005-11/12/2001-07:29 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale - Laundry Aid Bonanza (Wallpaper books and Maytag Sprinkler)
MESSAGE: I haven't seen wallpaper sample books before, there was only one this time (and only $1) usually I see some fabric scraps and/or samples. It was fun to get it for only a buck and my sister does a lot of paper crafts (cards, scrapbooks etc.) and she will love the cool papers for that and I won't have to store it at the house!
The Maytag sprinkler was on top of the washer & dryer in the first pics of the all button Maytag washer. Looks like a white flying saucer. You filled it with water and replaced the lint filter in the back of the dryer drum. As the drum tumbled (on air only setting - no heat) it sprinkled your clothes for ironing. My grandmother had a big pink ball that was from Kenmore for the same purpose.
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Post# 9006-11/12/2001-07:36 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: I've always seen this type of furniture already sold at sales here, surprised that it was still there. Were you guys planning a re-decoration of your living room?
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Post# 9007-11/12/2001-08:57 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Holding Our Breath
MESSAGE: An American Airlines plane has just crashed in the Rockaway Section of Queens, NY. Keep your fingers crossed everyone, I sure do hope we've not been attack again.
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Post# 9008-11/12/2001-08:58 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: The couch was cute, we were more thinking of furniture for the porch.
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Post# 9009-11/12/2001-09:10 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Holding Our Breath
MESSAGE: How far awa is this from Brooklyn Robert? I hope he's safe.
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Post# 9010-11/12/2001-09:19 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Holding Our Breath
MESSAGE: I'm sure he's fine, its several miles away from where Brooklyn Robert lives.
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Post# 9011-11/12/2001-12:50 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Holding Our Breath
MESSAGE: It *looks* like this was an accident or mechanical failure... but the truth will probably not be fully known until the black box is recovered and read.
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Post# 9012-11/12/2001-13:29 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Holding Our Breath (too freaky)
MESSAGE: Can you believe this! As if we haven't had enough tragedy in America lately, and in New York again. I sure hope it wasn't deliberate too, but how often do engines fall off aircraft?
I'm very upset and send condolences to anyone affected by this.
Eddy
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Post# 9013-11/12/2001-14:31 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
More Thoughts & Prayers
MESSAGE: Hi Everyone
Not sure how much more the people of NY and the world can take after another terrible event.... hope we are all okay and look forward to speaking to you all soon...
Mike
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Post# 9014-11/12/2001-17:18 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Holding Our Breath
MESSAGE: Sounds like it was more of an accident from the reports now, still a tragedy for a country that's already skiddish of flying. Our thoughts and prayers are with the families of those lost today.
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Post# 9015-11/12/2001-17:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
Rare Frigidaire Washer Found
MESSAGE: I stopped by St. Vincent's today on a whim and found a very rare Frigidaire washer. I nearly fainted when I saw it, it must have been a custom order since it's not Harvest Gold!
I also found a KDS-21 at another store that I needed the bottom panel for the KDS-18 I picked up a couple weeks ago.
Here are pics of the newbies...
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/wshrboy/vwp?.dir=/Thrifting+Finds+11-12-01&.src=ph&.dnm=We%27ll+call+this+one+Whitey!.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/wshrboy/lst%3f%26.dir=/Thrifting%2bFinds%2b11-12-01%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 9016-11/12/2001-17:45 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Rare Frigidaire Washer Found (Beautiful Friggy)
MESSAGE: That's an awesome 1-18. I wish I could find classic washers down here... that aren't eaten to death by rust.
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Post# 9017-11/12/2001-18:19 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Rare Frigidaire Washer Found (Amazing finds)
MESSAGE: Greg, I'm so glad you found somethiing that's not harvest gold to add to your harvest of machines. Who knows, you may find another Frigidaire for moi. I did some calling around here. Nada, zilch. I really like the KDS18. Amazed the KDS21 was encountered. What's wrong with it? I can't imagine anyone getting rid of that machine, with its custom front panel, unless they remodeled kitchen and cabinets.
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Post# 9018-11/12/2001-18:46 ||| trainguy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
RE: Rare Frigidaire Washer Found
MESSAGE: Congratulations Greg on such a great find. I'm very happy for you.
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Post# 9019-11/12/2001-19:29 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Rare Frigidaire Washer Found
MESSAGE: Fabulous, some good new today, YAY.
I didn't realize they made them in white Greg! Congrats on your find, what's her condition?
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Post# 9020-11/12/2001-20:09 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Holding Our Breath (Safe)
MESSAGE: Hi all I am ok - I do have relatives that do live in Rockaway near where the plane crashed and Thank God they are all ok.
Peter
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Post# 9021-11/12/2001-20:11 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Rare Frigidaire Washer Found (1/18)
MESSAGE: Real awsome 1/18 - is it in good condition?
Best of luck
Peter
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Post# 9022-11/12/2001-20:23 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Holding Our Breath (too freaky)
MESSAGE: Based on the news reports and the footage of an entire neighborhood on fire, it is thought to be a mechanical failure - but nothing will be known for sure for a while. Of course, as soon as it happened, all bridges and tunnels into and out of NYC were closed and the commuter rail lines serving Long Island, New Jersey, Westchester County and Connecticut suspended service. As of now, I believe everything has been reopened.
This reminds me of a similar event when I was about 6 or 7. On December 20, 1963, during a snowstorm, a plane taking off from LaGuardia crashed down and obliterated entire blocks in the Park Slope section of Brooklyn. We lived in Fort Greene, not far from the incident and I recall that you could see the fireball, smoke and flames - particularly frightening as it occurred at dusk. Never forgot that.................
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Post# 9023-11/12/2001-20:31 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Rare Frigidaire Washer Found
MESSAGE: My God - that is a beautiful washer. The guy that cuts my hair had this washer and the matching dryer (also in white) in his shop to do towels and such. I was so angry at him - he promised that I would have first right of refusal when he wanted to replace them. Needless to say he "forgot" - and they were in decent shape too!!!!!
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Post# 9024-11/12/2001-20:33 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Rare Frigidaire Washer Found (Amazing finds)
MESSAGE: Same problem here - could not beg, borrow or steal an old Frigidaire! Like they just dropped off the face of the earth. I suspect however, that because of our climate and the fact that here most home laundries have traditionally been in damp cellars, that rust is the culprit. Curses!!!!!!!!!
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Post# 9025-11/12/2001-21:44 ||| rapidry1000 (quincy,ma)
SUBJECT:
new find 1-18
MESSAGE: Greg, what did you mean by St.Vincents? was it a church sale
or something like that. I never know where to begin looking for these machines. congrats.
Just so everyone knows this is Bruce from Boston. I changed my profile.
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Post# 9026-11/12/2001-22:33 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Rare Frigidaire Washer Found (KDS21)
MESSAGE: Greg. swap the top rack from the 21 into the 18 while you have the chance. TT
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Post# 9027-11/12/2001-22:51 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT:
I'm Still Here!
MESSAGE: Hi Everyone;
Thanks for thinking of me. They haven't got me yet! (lol) Where the plane crashed is far from where I live. I'm at work tonight and all in very calm. The Hummer and the Army are still outside the precinct where I work which at the entrance to 59th St. bridge in to Manahatttan from Queens, and they are still checking a vehicular traffic into Manhattan. The word is that the plane may have had some sort of mechanical failure. I still think it's very strange and wonder if we will ever know the truth. I think if it was another attack it would probablly finish off the Airline industry, and I wonder if big business would be totally honest and not try to hide certain facts from the news media and the public. I don't know how the rest of you feel but I think it's very strange. I've been exposed to a little more then most working for the police departemnt and it may make me question things more then the average person, it's just too much after the World Trade Center and now this many people died again. I'm thinking of sending my Christmas cards early this year just in case, you can't tell who will be around for the holidays. Anyway, thanks again for thinking of me!
"Brooklyn Robert"
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Post# 9028-11/12/2001-23:17 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: I'm Still Here!
MESSAGE: Robert, I've had some similar thoughts to you all day. I'm kinda skeptical. BUT I'M SO GLAD YOU ARE OKAY.
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Post# 9029-11/12/2001-23:20 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Holding Our Breath (Safe)
MESSAGE: Oh Peter, I'm so thankful about your relatives being okay. Whew!!!
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Post# 9030-11/12/2001-23:22 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: new find 1-18
MESSAGE: Bruce, St. Vincent de Paul Society, a thrift store and place to help the needy. Many large towns have them. Temple, population 50,000, even has one.
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Post# 9031-11/12/2001-23:37 ||| Threering (San Francisco)
SUBJECT:
Some how my member name was used by someone else
MESSAGE: Hi Robert
Somehow a new member has taken my member name rapidry1000 and the data in the member profile written over. Can you somehow correct this so that someone else does not lose their member name.
Thanks
James in San Francisco the original rapidry1000
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Post# 9032-11/12/2001-23:47 ||| Threering (San Francisco)
SUBJECT:
RE: new find 1-18 (rapidry1000 is already used)
MESSAGE: Bruce in Quincy, MA
the profile name rapidry1000 has been used by me since this site was established. The data in my profile was also deleted.
James in San Francisco
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Post# 9033-11/12/2001-00:04 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Rare Frigidaire Washer Found (Thanks all )
MESSAGE: Thanks for all the well wishes - I must get to some of these machines in the garage or I'll soon need an off-site storage unit, a sure sign of over indulgence!
The new 1-18 (WIB)is in very nice shape compared to others that I've seen. The tub is in good shape, may need a couple of tiny spots touched up on the bottom, and it certainly needs a thorough cleaning. I had thought of just putting the cabinet from Whitey onto Goldie, but we'll see how Whitey looks when it's opened up. I hadn't noticed the bottom row of holes in the tub are up along the sides with no holes on the very bottom of the basket like Goldie until Peter H mentioned it about one of his 1-18's. The only thing about Whitey that I don't like is there's no window in the lid - but the lid is always open anyway! I will switch the control panels as I like have separate controls for wash and rinse water temps.
The dishwasher (KDS-21) will be used primarily for upgrade (top rack for the larger wash arm that reaches the corners and of course, that bottom panel) on the KDS-18. I like some of the features of both dishwashers, but the 180 degree sani-rinse on the 18 is the deciding factor. I've been reading my service manual and the Kitchen Aid facts from Leslie (thanks again - I've referred to that many times!) and with the upgrades to the 18, I think it will make and outstanding dishwasher. The Asko may go to a good home, I know someone that wants it to replace a builder grade GE. I remember a discussion eons ago about sound insulation - what kind and where do you find it again?
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Post# 9034-11/12/2001-00:41 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Rare Frigidaire Washer Found (KDS21)
MESSAGE: OK, I have to ask. What the heck is a 1-18?
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Post# 9035-11/12/2001-00:42 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: new find 1-18
MESSAGE: And when it comes to donating large items, I can depend upon St. Vincent de Paul to show up and take them away. I have had very bad experiences with Goodwill, and won't even try dealing with them.
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Post# 9036-11/12/2001-00:43 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Some how my member name was used by someone else
MESSAGE: How rude of them!
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Post# 9037-11/12/2001-01:31 ||| threering (San Francisco)
SUBJECT:
RE: Some how my member name was used by someone else (Opinion research group on front loading washing machines)
MESSAGE: Spambdamn
Last week on Craigslist -Jobs category Et cetera -sub category
An opinion research firm was looking for individuals in the Bay Area interested in participating in an 90 minute opinion research on front loading washers. I unfortunately did not see the listing until it was two days after it was posted. If I had seen it earlier and had time it would have been worth it and they were paying $125 to participate which would have been a nice bonus. Would you have been interested?
Rapidry1000 in San Francisco
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Post# 9038-11/13/2001-02:03 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Some how my member name was used by someone else (Opinion research group on front loading washing machines)
MESSAGE: Sure, but I'd be more interested if you had some way of turning back the clock ;-)
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Post# 9039-11/13/2001-07:12 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Some how my member name was used by someone else
MESSAGE: Hmmm, that's strange. We'll I can't figure out how that happened, its suppose to say "I'm sorry, that name has been taken already". We'll I'll look more into that tonight, but first James I just restored your profile and user name back to the way it was so you can now log back in as rapidry1000. Bruce for now please user your original login name that was bk1770.
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Post# 9040-11/13/2001-07:16 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Rare Frigidaire Washer Found (KDS21)
MESSAGE: 1-18 is the nickname that we've given the 1970's GM Frigidaire washers and dryers. If you look on the lower part of the control panel, they used 1-18 (pounds) to market it's versatility of capacity. Through the decade there were a couple of machines that were 16lb. cap. washers, but they were bottom of the line machines and had the dark blue deep-action pulsators typically seen in the 60's era washers. Guess they had a big box of them leftover...
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Post# 9041-11/13/2001-07:22 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: new find 1-18
MESSAGE: St Vincent DePaul Society here used to have a store just for appliances (10+ years ago) that were refurbished and ridiculously priced. Now they just sell whatever comes in at the main store (there are 3) downtown. Good will hasn't taken any white goods for several years now and Salvation Army doesn't distribute them to their stores unless they are newer. The Army has an auction every Tuesday A.M. where they sell off the surplus and most all the appliances. I try to stop by there when I can. There are a couple of other thrift orgs. that have appliances and I hit those now and then too.
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Post# 9042-11/13/2001-08:37 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Rare Frigidaire Washer Found (Thanks all )
MESSAGE: Greg, there is an automobile insulation called Dynamat or Dyna-Mat that is a very effective sound deadener. I am willing to bet you will love the KDS18. One thing you will probably want to do with it is put some detergent in the depression above the two cups so that you have some detergent in the first pre rinse. Dishwashers that don't put detergent in the first fill wind up with lots of that awful greasy gunk under the door where the grease rides the top of the water but never gets washed away because of where it is. TT
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Post# 9043-11/13/2001-09:29 ||| rapidry1000 (San Francisco)
SUBJECT:
RE: Some how my member name was used by someone else (Profile name change)
MESSAGE: Many thanks Robert for taking care of this glitch. As always you manage to smooth things over without any fuss.
James
Do you or any other members ever visit San Francisco?
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Post# 9044-11/13/2001-09:30 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Rare Frigidaire Washer Found
MESSAGE: Yahoo is being a bear this morning. I can't get to the link and I can't get to my album to upload.
Congrats on the 1-18 and the KDS21!
-ph
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Post# 9045-11/13/2001-09:33 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
Porcelain sinks
MESSAGE: What was the name of the manufacturer of really porcelain sinks?
I have a lead on one, along with a KA DW that's about 35 years old (2 buttons for full cycle and rinse & hold, 1 light, center classic door handle, dial at bottom, stainless steel panels, pink/mauve control panel). If Yahoo was behaving I could upload the pics.
-ph
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Post# 9046-11/13/2001-09:38 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Rare Frigidaire Washer Found
MESSAGE: Just got to the link...
Jet Flow, water level graphic, ring of holes on basket slope... I do believe this is a 1979 model! This one got away from me about 3 weeks ago...
-ph
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Post# 9047-11/13/2001-09:58 ||| Calypso bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
rapidry1000
MESSAGE: this is Bruce again, sorry that I took you name. I should have checked. I have renewed my member status under Calypso bruce.
I do not know how to take the other profile off the profile
list. Maybe someone can tell me. Again, I appologize for
the screw up. thanks
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Post# 9048-11/13/2001-10:05 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: rapidry1000
MESSAGE: Hi Bruce, you have nothing to appoligize for. Thanks to you I realized that there is a bug in the program code for signing up new members. If someone types a name in the "Choose Your New User Name Box" that is already taken by another member, the system is suppose to say "I'm Sorry, but that Name has already been taken". That special message does work properly 99 out of 100 times, except I see you accidently found the loophole. I figured out what that loophole is and I will fix it tonight. Sorry for any confusion James and Bruce. I'm surprised it took six months for us to uncover this bug.
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Post# 9049-11/13/2001-10:14 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
KitchenAid Commercial Dishwasher
MESSAGE: On Sunday afternoon, out in about in my travels I found a 1950's KitchenAid Commercial Dishwasher. It was all stainless steel and had a thermometer on the bottom panel. It has one rack, the cast iron wash arm and the big 50's KitchenAid handle on the door. The guy at the salvage store said I could have it for $2.
I haven't decided whether to add it to the collection or not yet, but does anyone know about these commercial dishwashers? Do it have a shortened cycle, are they for dishes only? Does it have its own water heater?
Inquiring minds want to know.
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Post# 9050-11/13/2001-10:27 ||| rapidry1000 (San Francisco)
SUBJECT:
RE: KitchenAid Commercial Dishwasher (KitchenAid commercial dishwasher)
MESSAGE: Uni
I used one of these commercial dishwashers working one summer at a soda fountain as a soda jerk. The dishwasher did a load of dishes in a few minutes. I believe that the steam rapidly dried the load of dishes that come out very hot when the door was open after the cycle was completed. I would think this might be collectable and of interest to the club members.
rapidry1000
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Post# 9051-11/13/2001-10:36 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: KitchenAid Commercial Dishwasher
MESSAGE: It's either more of a dish sanitizer that gives the load a blast of nearly boiling water for a short cycle, or it has a set push button start cycle, or it has a manual handle for washing, rinsing and draining. Some you filled manually and a heater kept the water hot for washing, but then had a 2nd smaller wash arm for rinsing. In this case, the rinse water is fresh and just added to the retained wash water below. While there are some commercial machines that are worth collecting, like a coin-op Laundromat or a WCOZ, I'd pass on this dw...
-ph
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Post# 9052-11/13/2001-11:05 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: KitchenAid Commercial Dishwasher
MESSAGE: Robert, also more than likely, electrical source may be a challenge. It probably heats its own water--due to the rapid nature of the wash cycle, it would need at least one 220 circuit breaker. We have a modern version at our church. When I use the machine, I have to turn on the equivalentcy of 2 electric dryer circuit breakers in the box to allow the machine to run. It's a power sucker.
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Post# 9053-11/13/2001-11:27 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: KitchenAid Commercial Dishwasher
MESSAGE: Thanks Peter, I didn't see a second wash arm that you describe. It was a neat looking machine, but if you can't wash pots and pans in it, I going to let it go.
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Post# 9054-11/13/2001-11:29 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: KitchenAid Commercial Dishwasher
MESSAGE: 220 volts isn't a challenge in my house Bob. I've wired in four 220 volt circuits already. It would take 15 minutes to tap into one of those existing lines for the dishwasher, I just wouldn't use anything else on the same line, while the dishwasher was heating or running. Still it doesn't sound like an important find.
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Post# 9055-11/13/2001-14:59 ||| filterflo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT:
Picture Of The Day
MESSAGE: Hi Guys,
The picture of the day really made MY day. I was lucky enough to acuire a 1932 Bendix just like the one shown! Got it a couple of week ago, and didnt realize it was quite that vintage. Im tickled pink about it, another Washday Miracle!!
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Post# 9056-11/13/2001-15:06 ||| filterflo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale - Laundry Aid Bonanza (Maytag Sprinkler/Kenmore Sprinkler)
MESSAGE: I have a 3 Kenmore pink ball dryer Sprinklers, if anyone wants one. I find them in basements when Im doing and estate sale, and no one but me seems to know what they are! Email or call me if anyone is interested. JimmyCFO@aol.com /330-928-1371 Filterflo
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Post# 9057-11/13/2001-15:22 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture Of The Day
MESSAGE: Hi Jimmy, that's really neat an original Bendix. They actually started selling the domestic verion in 1938. Very Cool Find though, the very first domestic automatic washer.
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Post# 9058-11/13/2001-16:00 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture Of The Day
MESSAGE: The '32 Bendix didn't look at all familiar to me, either. I place the vintage of the more recent one in the ad at about 1953 (32 + 21 = 53). The more recent one *does* look familiar, minus the coin-op attachment, of course. I remember the mystery of Mom pouring detergent or soap flakes in though the little door on the top of the machine. I was not allowed close enough to inspect it further. At the time I was satisfied that the machine could work magic on jeans with pockets full of rotten bananas.
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Post# 9059-11/13/2001-17:53 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture Of The Day (Long live front loaders)
MESSAGE: That POD of the Bendix makes me proud I now own a frontloader. It was Bendix that paved the way for these remarkable machines. It's great that the FL's are coming back in a big way.
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Post# 9060-11/13/2001-18:00 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Rare Frigidaire Washer Found (Thanks all )
MESSAGE: Thanks - I'll check around for the dynamat stuff - I knew it was automobile related, just not the name.
I've seen that greasy gunk a lot in dishwashers, especially since the advent of the tablets - I was skeptical of those when they first came out and tried them in my D&M Roper, but they wouldn't fit into the dispenser cups and I had to crush them before opening the package - defeats the purpose. I thought they foamed up too much in my Asko. I like having some detergent in the first fill too.
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Post# 9061-11/13/2001-18:05 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale - Laundry Aid Bonanza (Maytag Sprinkler/Kenmore Sprinkler)
MESSAGE: I always wish I'd kept my grandmother's sprinkler ball, just may take you up on that!
She always claimed it didn't sprinkle that evenly, water peed out in one spot if the tumbling stopped before the water was gone and then there was that "awful racket" that it made in the dryer.
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Post# 9062-11/13/2001-18:54 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Porcelain sinks (KD DW found)
MESSAGE: That's probably a 15 series.
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Post# 9063-11/13/2001-19:10 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: KitchenAid Commercial Dishwasher
MESSAGE: Robert, if the undercounter dw you found is the old small tank Hobart like the early home KA machines, has a 4.5 minute cycle. You load it, pour detergent on the door, lock it and push start. There is a 30 second timer adjustment then a fill. It washes for 2.5 minutes, drains for 30 seconds (this is called a dwell), fills, rinses and then shuts off and drains while it is being unloaded (dwell again). The specs I had show it using a gravity drain. You had to have 180 degree water coming to it to meet sanitation codes. There is no heating provision. I have the spec sheet somewhere, but think I loaned it to John so the operative word is lost.
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Post# 9064-11/13/2001-19:13 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale - Laundry Aid Bonanza (Maytag Sprinkler/Kenmore Sprinkler)
MESSAGE: Yeah, and if you use one of these balls, be prepared for sounds like the house is being torn down around you. The ball weighs a lot filled with water and it really crashes around in the dryer drum, even with clothes to be dampened. Other dryers used far better sprinkler devices, including the more expensive Kenmores that had the little pisser in the door.
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Post# 9065-11/13/2001-19:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture Of The Day (Dating the Bendix/Philco)
MESSAGE: The newer machine in the ad is from the 60's (zip code in the address) Bendix was bought by Philco/Ford in 1957. The '53 line was introduced with the more "steering wheel" door design (see link) and the door frame design remained the same until the 1956 models which used a remote button on the front mounted panel to unlatch the door. About 57-58, the handle/latch was again added to the door frame which remained three all through the rest of the production through the Dexter commercial front loaders into the 70's. When was the zip code system implemented? I've seen Bendix ads that had the intro of the domestic model in 1937 and if you add the "quarter century" tag from the ad, that would put it at around 1962.
Does anyone know when the Bendix name get dropped from the Philco line?
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Bendix&.src=ph&.dnm=First+Washload.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Bendix%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 9066-11/13/2001-19:34 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Porcelain sinks
MESSAGE: Really porcelain sinks??
Is the KDI-15 still attached to a sink?
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Post# 9067-11/13/2001-20:07 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT:
F&P dishdrawer
MESSAGE: Does anyone out there in applianceville have an f&p dishdrawer? If so do you like it? I pick one up today and now i'm debating on weather to keep it. The b/f says we dont need it. But it is a toy and it was on close out.
SD
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Post# 9068-11/13/2001-20:19 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT:
Wisk tablets "unexpected bonus"
MESSAGE: Took advantage of a 'deal' on Lever products, buy 2 laundry products, get a free box of Wisk tablets. Well it was a great promotion, however upon opening the carton of tablets.....the bonus was revealed......a Palmetto bug family (aka roaches)had set up homemakeing in the carton......how lovely! Guess it's a southern thing. The tablets work great, but don't repel bugs like the powder or liquid. Watch out HQOTS!!!
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Post# 9069-11/13/2001-20:24 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Porcelain sinks
MESSAGE: Peter, is the sink and d/w a combination? Or are they separate? Kitchenaid did have combination set-ups with porcelain or stainless sinks and drainboard......color coordinated base cabinets were included. Ciao!
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Post# 9070-11/13/2001-20:35 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Wisk tablets "unexpected bonus"
MESSAGE: Sorry to hear about the family Leslie. No bugs in this house.
Between coupons and sales I now have 240 Wisk tablets and 2 coupons left over. Being that I only need one tablet for a normal load in the Calypso I should have enough detergent for a while.
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Post# 9071-11/13/2001-21:10 ||| calypso bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
F&P Dishdrawer
MESSAGE: Scott, I think the F&P dishdrawer is a neat machine. I have wanted one for a while. Be prepared to clean the filter
every now and then, it does not have a soft food disposer
in it. I think that is a minor anoyance. Consumer reports
has rated it a very good machine but because of it's price
and the filter thing it ranked about halfway on the list
of other dishwashers. All other repects to the machine were
very good or excellent. I think it is the best invention
to hit dishwashing. Let us know if it works out for you.
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Post# 9072-11/13/2001-21:11 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Wisk tablets "unexpected bonus"
MESSAGE: Jason, the tablets were very nice to use and most effective. I used 2 in the Calypso, as the water is extra hard here....15 grains.....yuck! Soon to have soft water....so I'll be only using 1. There was just a light film of suds on top of the washing. There was a pleasant fresh scent on the clothes too. I really like them! Especially when they are freebies.
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Post# 9073-11/13/2001-21:12 ||| calypso bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
appliance shipping
MESSAGE: Could someone give me an idea what it would cost to ship an appliance?. Who would I call?.
thanks.
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Post# 9074-11/13/2001-21:34 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture Of The Day (Dating the Bendix/Philco)
MESSAGE: Greg - I am going to guess that the Bendix name was dropped from the Philco line somewhere around 1964. I am basing this on some old Consumer Reports washer articles and ratings from the early 1960's. I know for sure that by 1966 it was gone. At that time, Firestone had retail tire and appliance stores in our area. Strange but they stocked mostly Philco (perhaps a Ford/Firestone relationship???)and some Speed Queen. Also, a friend's father worked for our local Firestone so their house was full of Philco appliances. That is where, in 1967-68, I got to see the very colorful and progressive Philco Custom Imperial........ Actually, I think that Philco finally gave up on laundry appliances in 1969-1970.........
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Post# 9075-11/13/2001-21:36 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture Of The Day
MESSAGE: Jimmy - where do you find most of your stuff? The used appliance stores here in Connecticut are pretty awful and there are very few actual estate sales where treasures can be found................
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Post# 9076-11/13/2001-21:53 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: KitchenAid Commercial Dishwasher (Yup, that the Dishwasher I saw)
MESSAGE: Thanks Tom, that is exactly the dishwasher I found. We'll since there is no way I'm going to supply 180 degree hot water, I don't think there is any need to add this to my collection. Also the fact that it washes for 2.5 minutes is not enough to wash pots and pans. It was a cute machine though.
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Post# 9077-11/13/2001-21:55 ||| miss jet cone (Hopkins ,MN)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Lovely Evening ( thanks Robert)
MESSAGE:
HI robert!
We wanted to thank you again for
comming over and taking all those pictures for me.
we forgot my ronson appliances so we will have to have
you guy's over again . Im glad you guy's enjoyed
the evening with us.
Be good ! karen & David
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Post# 9078-11/13/2001-21:58 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: appliance shipping
MESSAGE: Hi Bruce, I like to use a company called Craters & Frighters. I shipped a 250lb, 1949 Frigidaire Unimatic to our member Jetcone who lives in the Boston suburb of Melrose. It cost about $250. John (Jetcone) also shipped a washer to me here in Minneapolis using Craters & Frighters and it cost him about the same. But he needed to bring it up to Portland as that is the closest Craters & Freighters to the Boston Metro.
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Post# 9079-11/13/2001-22:00 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Lovely Evening ( thanks Robert)
MESSAGE: Hi Karen, thanks for sharing your wonderful collection with the club!
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Post# 9080-11/13/2001-22:04 ||| miss jet cone (Hopkins ,MN)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Lovely Evening (to all members)
MESSAGE:
HI to all !
Thanks for all the nice complements on
my appliances. I am getting more thing in the
mail soon so my basement will be over flowing
with more appliances to share with you all.
yall be good now ! Miss jet cone
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Post# 9081-11/13/2001-22:08 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Another Bug Bites the Dust
MESSAGE: We'll the problem that happened last night with a new member taking an existing members screen name has been cleared up.
What happened was Rapidry1000 was an existing name. If someone types in Rapidry1000 in the "add new member screen", the system says "Sorry, choose another name as this one is taken". But Bruce (through no fault of his own) typed in Rapidry1000 plus a space. The space threw my code off thinking it was ok to use that name and it overwrote all of James' Rapidry1000 files. Thank goodness I back up most of the web site locally quite often so I was able to restore everything back to the way it was rather quickly this morning.
I have now fixed this bug by not allowing any new members to use spaces in their screen name. Any existing members who have spaces in their screen names like Miss Jet Cone, Magic Clean, Calypso Bruce, etc. can keep their screen names with the spaces. All new members now will be required to have a screen name without any spaces, otherwise they will get an error message asking them to use a name without any spaces.
I'm sure will still turn up another bug or two in time, Applianceville is almost six months old now, can you belive it!
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Post# 9082-11/13/2001-22:15 ||| Falcon970 (Connecticut)
SUBJECT:
Whirlpool 'Family' Dishwasher
MESSAGE: We have part of an old machine with a tag proclaiming it to be a 'Whirlpool Family Dishwasher' It is VERY old - I think between 1910 and 1920. Does anyone have info on this machine?
thanks!
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Post# 9083-11/13/2001-22:16 ||| miss jet cone (Hopkins ,MN)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Lovely Evening ( kenwood appliances)
MESSAGE:
HI Mike !
How are thing with you? I am doing fine I'm
glad you liked my kenwood mixers some work & some need
some work.Could I ask a favor from you can you send me a
new kenwood catalog book and if I find something I like
in it could I buy it and have you send it to me? If you
would that would be so cool!
thanks so Much!! Miss jet cone
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Post# 9084-11/13/2001-22:18 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Lovely Evening (to all members)
MESSAGE: Can't wait to see the new toys Karen. Glaed to see you posting. My best to you and David. Miss y'all Bob
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Post# 9085-11/13/2001-22:26 ||| Ztestuser (minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool 'Family' Dishwasher
MESSAGE: Hi Falcon, do you have any more info on this dishwasher. Whirlpool Corp (the Whirlpool we know of today) didn't start making dishwashers until 1959. Might you have a digital picture to share of this machine?
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Post# 9086-11/13/2001-22:37 ||| madigan (Santa Ana CA)
SUBJECT:
Washday Blues ( or "A Washer Too Smart For Its Own Good"
MESSAGE: Well, HE3t(2) is down for up to two weeks.
It got through its initial load, only to refuse to unlock its door at the end of the cycle. Seems the motor controlling the dispenser jammed during the end of cycle reset, and the machine is "smart" enough to not operate in that instance.
Since this is a new product, there are no repair parts locally (they may all be in Germany, for all I know!). It may be 2 weeks before the replacement arrives - laundry withdrawal!!
Think kind thoughts for me...
jjm
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Post# 9087-11/13/2001-22:39 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture Of The Day (Dating the Bendix/Philco)
MESSAGE: That steering wheel door definitely does not look familiar. As I recall, the washer of my childhood had "Bendix" emblazoned across the front of the cabinet. The cabinet was square, not round like in the 30's units. The door was plain. I do not clearly remember the door trim, but it might have been white or chrome. Not with a crossbar. Thanks for the link anyway, though!
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Post# 9088-11/13/2001-22:42 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Washday Blues ( or "A Washer Too Smart For Its Own Good"
MESSAGE: Wow, that's too bad Jim. I'm Sorry to hear about your broken machine. I'm glad none of my washers are that smart. This sort of reminds me of some of the stories that Consumer Reports told back in 1947 when the Automatics were first being sold. Long delays in delivery, and longer delays in service and parts for such a new technology. I guess we're sort of reliving that time again.
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Post# 9089-11/13/2001-22:44 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture Of The Day (Dating the Bendix/Philco)
MESSAGE: It's possible that the washer of my childhood was a pre-'53 unit. The house was built about 1950, and it had a special concrete riser built in the basement for it, so it's likely the washer was purchased about the same time the house was built.
Anyone have photos of a pre-1953 Bendix front loader?
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Post# 9090-11/13/2001-22:44 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture Of The Day (Dating the Bendix/Philco)
MESSAGE: Was it this model Rich? See link...
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/multimatic850/vwp?.dir=/RichGary+Visit+to+Uni%27s+Washer+Playland&.dnm=RichGary+watchin%27+the+Bendix.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 9091-11/13/2001-22:48 ||| Frigemore (Chicago IL)
SUBJECT:
Yippie!!!
MESSAGE: I finally have been able to log in :)
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Post# 9092-11/13/2001-22:56 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture Of The Day (Dating the Bendix/Philco)
MESSAGE: Wow, that'a a beautiful appliance, Robert. I don't recall the Deco styling, though. What year is that one?
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Post# 9093-11/13/2001-23:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Yippie!!!
MESSAGE: Welcome Frigmore to the club. Sorry if you were having trouble logging in as a new member tonight, I was doing some much need maintenance on the code.
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Post# 9094-11/13/2001-23:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture Of The Day (Dating the Bendix/Philco)
MESSAGE: Rich, that's the 1947 Deluxe Bendix.
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Post# 9095-11/13/2001-23:04 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Yippie!!!
MESSAGE: Hi Ross, I'm glad you joined. I see your looking for the 1957 GE washer set. I have the '57 dryer, if you ever find the washer, maybe I can help you with the matched set.
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Post# 9096-11/13/2001-23:09 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: F&P dishdrawer
MESSAGE: Send it to me!
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Post# 9097-11/13/2001-23:42 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture Of The Day (Dating the Bendix/Philco)
MESSAGE: I was thinking that late 60's time for the Philco appliance demise, must have sold the laundry line to Dexter somewhere around there.
I don't know about Firestone stores around here, but I'm sure they were Philco too. Goodyear sold GE appliances, my best friend's father worked for Goodyear and got GE at a discount. They had a beautiful 1969 GE washer and dryer with lighted panels - such style!
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Post# 9098-11/13/2001-23:55 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Yippie!!!
MESSAGE: Welcome - another GE fan this week! Do you like your Frigidaire dishwasher? I know a few who have them, some like them and some don't. The pauses for wash arm changing take a bit to get used to, but very interesting how it all works.
Enjoy the club! Greg
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Post# 9099-11/13/2001-23:57 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture Of The Day (Dating the Bendix/Philco)
MESSAGE: Hmmm. Well, I thought I would recognize it at first sight... maybe if you overdosed it with homemade soap and then shot a photo of it oozing suds out of every orifice, I might recognize it better. Also, if you were to replace the adult models with children, or midgets, the overall size of the machine would be more like what I remember.
I will have to ruminate on that Bendix emblem for a bit.
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Post# 9100-11/13/2001-23:58 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool 'Family' Dishwasher
MESSAGE: Is this an electric machine or hand operated. An appliance store here had a hand operated model from about that time. It was just racks inside a galvanized drum, pour water in the top and moved the handle back and forth to splash water around inside. I think you could win a prize (probably an ice cube tray!) for guessing it's vintage.
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Post# 9101-11/13/2001-00:01 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture Of The Day (Dating the Bendix/Philco)
MESSAGE: Were the dials on the top or the front of the machine? By 1950, Bendix didn't require bolting down (the TOL model anyway) but the concrete pad would put it at a better height for loading and unloading - like a Hettie on a pedestal now!
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Post# 9102-11/13/2001-00:10 ||| filterflo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture Of The Day
MESSAGE: Hi Angus,
I do estate sales as my profession, and find a lot of my items in the houses I go into. I also used to be an appliance repairman while in college, and the dealer that I worked for saves me old parts and trade-ins that he picks up or people drop off. I tell people to please let me know what they are looking for, I often find items and will gladly pass them on to others if I cant use them.
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Post# 9103-11/13/2001-00:29 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Yippie!!! (Frigidaire dw)
MESSAGE: Have the Frig dw here too - very impressed with it. I enjoy hearing the little clicks as it switches the arms. It also has a hellova dry cycle - shoots steam across the room!
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Post# 9104-11/13/2001-00:33 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture Of The Day (Dating the Bendix/Philco)
MESSAGE: I'm thinking the dials were on top, not in the front.
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Post# 9105-11/13/2001-00:59 ||| spiralator60 (Los Angeles, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture Of The Day (Philco-Bendix Chronology)
MESSAGE: I've been looking into this matter throughout the day, and want to share what has been learned.
The text in the ad copy states that the Bendix units were first used in 1932 in self-serve laundries, and that coin-metered machines were introduced 14 years later. This means that it was sometime in 1946 that the subjects of the advertisement were put into general use. The banner of the quarter century then, to me, dates the ad itself somewhere around 1970-1971.
The reason that I arrive at this date is also because of two things. First, the question was asked about when the zip code system was implemented, as a full five digit zip code is clearly listed. According to the "History of the United States Postal Service 1775-1993," the system was officially put into general use on July 1, 1963. This information is available at www.usps.gov. It was not until after this date that advertising in general was beginning to reflect this new postal convention in the manner shown in the ad.
The second reason is due to the chronology of the Bendix company itself. This information was gathered from various company histories and analyses such as Hoover's. From 1938 until 1952, Bendix Home Appliances , Inc.(South Bend, Indiana) was the producer and distributor of the Bendix brand equipment. The company was then acquired and operated as a division of the Avco Manufacturing Corporation (Cincinnati, Ohio) until the division was acquired by the Philco Corporation (Philadelphia, Pennsylvania) in 1956. The Bendix name was paired with the Philco name at this time. The Philco-Bendix name continued for a time even after the Philco Corporation was acquired by the Ford Motor Company in 1961, but the name was gradually given less prominence with regard to the home consumer product brand line over the next several years.
The Bendix brand name appears to have been licensed or sold to other manufacturers outside the US beginning during this time, who then began to distribute products under this name, and appliances in the US no longer were being made or distributed under this brand. As Anthony has pointed out, it was around 1965-1966 where the Bendix name no longer had the presence in the home market that it once did in the US. However, the commercial market was still viable at that time, as there was a steady customer base which was still made it profitable enough for Ford to want to keep it a little longer.
About this same time period, the Philco brand was being groomed by Ford, as a separate entity. It was part of a program that Ford was beginning to diversify, and then streamline, operations within the company. Ford had been particularly interested in Philco because of the work that had been ongoing in the field of electronics, notably radio and television, and this was a business that Ford wanted to become an active participant in. The goal was to join in on what was happening in developments that were being applied to the US space program, among other things, and Philco was just the opportunity to do so. The Philco business was disposed of in much the same way as Bendix by 1972, when the non appliance Philco operations were reorganized into what became Ford Aerospace. Ford also exited the the commercial laundry machine business at this time.
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Post# 9106-11/14/2001-04:22 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture Of The Day (Philco-Bendix Chronology)
MESSAGE: Hmmm, we have always had a Bendix washing machine line as far as I can remember. Here is their site.
LINK: http://www.bendixaust.com.au
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Post# 9107-11/14/2001-06:00 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture Of The Day
MESSAGE: The Philco-Bendix coin-op model was adopted by Dexter, who made the machines up into the mid 90's. There are still many laudromats here in the Atlanta area with them, and most are quite old.
-ph
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Post# 9108-11/14/2001-06:07 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Porcelain sinks (not a combo)
MESSAGE: Oh. no, it's not a combo. The dw is definitely separate. He described it to me as being free-standing with an old formica top. It's a KDI-15.
Now, what company made the porcelain kitchen sinks that we were drooling over a couple months back?
-ph
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Post# 9109-11/14/2001-06:25 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Porcelain sinks (Youngstown?)
MESSAGE: Could it have been a Youngstown sink?
-ph
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Post# 9110-11/14/2001-06:26 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
POD 11/14
MESSAGE: This is the Kelvi I'd like to find...
-ph
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Post# 9111-11/14/2001-06:30 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Washday Blues ( or "A Washer Too Smart For Its Own Good"
MESSAGE: Of course we will think positive thoughts for you...........
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Post# 9112-11/14/2001-06:34 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: F&P dishdrawer
MESSAGE: They look really neat, but CU did not give them high marks for cleaning.
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Post# 9113-11/14/2001-06:37 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Washday Blues ( or "A Washer Too Smart For Its Own Good"
MESSAGE: Well Robert, you are right on that point. That is why I have held off on even considering those machines. I figured that it would be a while before the kinks would be worked out. Even from reading some of the posts on "thathomesite", it seems like a self fulfilling prophecy. Rush to get the machines to market before they are really ready, short supply combined with some weird problems that have people exchanging machines at Sears that further affect the supply problem and you have a bit of a mess. At the risk of sounding inflammatory, I am not sure it is worth it to have the "immediate gratification" of new technology. Think I will wait a bit longer or buy the Miele..........
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Post# 9114-11/14/2001-06:42 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture Of The Day (Dating the Bendix/Philco)
MESSAGE: Dexter?? Never heard of that brand around these parts...................
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Post# 9115-11/14/2001-06:46 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture Of The Day (Philco-Bendix Chronology)
MESSAGE: I would think the quarter century would span from 1932 - the introduction of Bendix to 1957 or 58 which would match more with my recollection of the washers in the laundromat around the corner from my house(late 50's - early 60's). By 1969 - 70 there were no more Philco laundry appliances offered here in the US, and the Bendix name was dropped somewhere in the early 60's......
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Post# 9116-11/14/2001-06:50 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: KitchenAid Commercial Dishwasher (Yup, that the Dishwasher I saw)
MESSAGE: No Robert, it was meant for lunch counters and doughnut shops and the like where the dishes were washed as soon as they were cleared so the food soil was not dried on and stuff. The machine got warmed up from the repeated loads so washing one load in it with less than super hot water would not be too effective either. Did you see the baskets for glasses that sat on the flat rack? They were half the size of the flat rack, had hardware cloth bottoms and no real dividers. The next step up in capacity for handling more disher per hour is the turtleback that you sometimes see in Waffle House restaurants in the South. It keeps a 160 F wash solution in a tank that was heated and had a separate fresh water rinse spray both under and over the racks. Since food soil dilutes the strength of the wash solution and requires more frequent cleaning of the strainers, you often see the help practically washing the dishes before putting them in these. On these, the cycle takes only about a minute with about 10 seconds for the rinse with 180F water.
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Post# 9117-11/14/2001-06:55 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Washday Blues ( or "A Washer Too Smart For Its Own Good" (sick hettie)
MESSAGE: I would be telling Sears to give me another washer, pronto or to forget about the whole thing. Remember: "Satisfaction is guaranteed or your money back."
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Post# 9118-11/14/2001-06:56 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture Of The Day (Dating the Bendix/Philco)
MESSAGE: I'll get right on that Rich.
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Post# 9119-11/14/2001-06:57 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Yippie!!!
MESSAGE: Welcome Frigimore and all new members!
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Post# 9120-11/14/2001-07:02 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture Of The Day (Dating the Bendix/Philco)
MESSAGE: Firestone stores in Georgia sold Philco for as far back as I can remember, like 1955. Even saw a twin tub wringer in one. Got our Hi Speed Non Vent Duomatic there in 71 at the end of appliance sales. The tire guys would leave you alone when you were looking at appliances which I liked.
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Post# 9121-11/14/2001-07:05 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: KitchenAid Commercial Dishwasher (Yup, that the Dishwasher I saw)
MESSAGE: I don't recall the racks you describe Tom, but next weekend if I get over to NE Minneapolis, I will pop in a snap a picture of the thing.
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Post# 9122-11/14/2001-07:45 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture Of The Day (Philco-Bendix Chronology)
MESSAGE: Does anyone have the ability to do a patent search on the Bendix?
Everything I have on file from Bendix from as far back as 1940 says 1937-38 was the intro of the automatic washer by Bendix. Could there have been a "non-automatic" model made before this? The first tests of the home models were in 1940 by CU. The model that Robert has (which is a 1947) was intro'd in 1941, I have the sales book for that year's model line, which also has the older machine pictured at the top of the ad. My '47 Bendix has "A Division of Avco...." on the tag, so the Avco changeover must have come about sometime before '52. It's tough to come up with a correct date for these corporate mergers and takeovers when the companies no longer exist - an approximation may just have to do.
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Post# 9123-11/14/2001-07:49 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD 11/14
MESSAGE: Did Kelvinator make their own dryers? I love the square window that matches the square window on the washer.
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Post# 9124-11/14/2001-07:55 ||| calypso bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
F&P Dishwasher
MESSAGE: The December issue of Consumer Reports states that washing score is excellent with scores of very good in Energy,Noise,
Loading Flexibility and Ease of use. Just an FYI.
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Post# 9125-11/14/2001-07:56 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD 11/14
MESSAGE: Nope, those dryers, along with the washers of course, were made by ABC.
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Post# 9126-11/14/2001-08:09 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD 11/14
MESSAGE: Guess I've never seen an ABC dryer then... The oldest one Kelvi dryer I've seen pics of was that one you found for John L. from the recycler that the two of you slid in the snow.
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Post# 9127-11/14/2001-09:40 ||| appliguy (Vienna Va.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture Of The Day (Philco/Ford)
MESSAGE: Just to keep things straight Ford didn't buy Philco until 1962
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Post# 9128-11/14/2001-11:44 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: KitchenAid Commercial Dishwasher (Yup, that the Dishwasher I saw)
MESSAGE: Were any of these commercial dishwasher set up to run off of "house steam"?
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Post# 9129-11/14/2001-12:21 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: F&P Dishwasher (new ratings)
MESSAGE: Glad to see the ratings have changed. A couple of years ago it did not do that well in ratings. But of course, Consumer Reports makes so many errors in testing appliances now that you have to wonder if the people doing the tests have any idea of what they are doing. It sort of makes me afraid to follow their recommendations for anything else.
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Post# 9130-11/14/2001-12:23 ||| Pdunn (Wisconsin)
SUBJECT:
1940s Kelvinator Refrigerator restoration
MESSAGE: I have a 1940s vintage Kelvinator Refrigerator I would like to restore. It is in working order, but needs sanding and a paint job. I would like to update anything I can for safety, reliability and energy efficiency, such as door gaskets, wiring, insulation, and child proofing the door latch so it is not a trapping hazard. Are there any guides for Do-It-Yourself restoration? Or has anyone done anything like this?
Thanks for your help
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Post# 9131-11/14/2001-12:31 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: KitchenAid Commercial Dishwasher (Yup, that the Dishwasher I saw)
MESSAGE: In the hospital where I worked, each floor had a cleaning area and there were Hobart machines that were modified 12 series dishwashers with special racks to hold bedpans. There was no detergent dispenser, just like the 12s and they had stainless steel interiors. The cycle was wash, 2 rinses and dry, but the dry was live steam from the hospital steam system. Many large institutions that run boilers have the option of having steam sypply the heat for various machinery. Large multitank conveyor dishwashers offer the booster heat in either gas, electricity or steam. At the hospital, the dishwasher used live steam to keep the wash and first rinse tanks hot; once you filled the tanks, there was a valve you opened. I had to see what this did, so one morning, I opened it before filling the tank, when nobody was around to see or hear and saw steam shoot out of the end of a pipe that was normally underwater. The final rinse was 180 from the hot water supply, heated by steam. The kitchen had steam ovens and a neat steam kettle. Dryers and ironers can both work off steam coils as well as gas or electricity.
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Post# 9132-11/14/2001-13:29 ||| filterflo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT:
Dexter Twin Tub
MESSAGE: Hi All,
I just got a call from my dealer friend. He took a 1960 Dexter twin tub in as a trade-in, and its available if anyone wants it. It has the service info with it along with the operating instructions, and is in very good shape. I already have one, and dont need another. If anyone wants it, its in New Philadelphia Ohio, and is FREE. Please contact me as soon as possible to keep it from going to the scrapyard!
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Post# 9133-11/14/2001-13:30 ||| filterflo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT:
Dexter Twin Tub
MESSAGE: Hi All,
I just got a call from my dealer friend. He took a 1960 Dexter twin tub in as a trade-in, and its available if anyone wants it. It has the service info with it along with the operating instructions, and is in very good shape. I already have one, and dont need another. If anyone wants it, its in New Philadelphia Ohio, and is FREE. Please contact me as soon as possible to keep it from going to the scrapyard!
filterflo JimmyCFO@aol.com 330 928 1371
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Post# 9134-11/14/2001-13:42 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dexter Twin Tub
MESSAGE: Thanks Jimmy, in case anyone doesn't know what a Dexter twin tub is, here is a picture of one that was on the Aberdeen Farm...
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/unimatic1140/vwp?.dir=/Philco-Bendix&.dnm=1947+Bendix+Deluxe+Model.JPG&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/unimatic1140/vwp%3f.dir=/Philco-Bendix%26.dnm=Inside%2bthe%2b%252747%2bBendix.JPG%26.src=ph
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Post# 9135-11/14/2001-13:43 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dexter Twin Tub
MESSAGE: Ooopsie, sorry wrong link,
here is the link to the Dexter Twin Tub
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/unimatic1140/vwp?.dir=/Z_Sacred+Junkyard&.dnm=A+Twin+Tub+Dexter.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 9136-11/14/2001-13:46 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: F&P Dishwasher (new ratings)
MESSAGE: F&P did a model change / redesign on the DishDrawer recently, and the latest info from Consumer Reports is for the new model.
On the first test with the older model, F&P had a rebuttal on their website, claiming that CR ran a Normal wash on the other tested machines, and the equivalent of a Light wash on the DishDrawer, or something to that effect. Could have been sour grapes on F&P's part, who knows.
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Post# 9137-11/14/2001-13:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1940s Kelvinator Refrigerator restoration (The Old Appliance Club)
MESSAGE: Hi Patrick, many of us here in Applianceville have done total appliance restorations, but we're mainly experts in automatic washers, dryers and dishwashers at this site. You might try contacting Jack Santoro at the Old Appliance Club (click on the link below). They specialize more in Gas and Electric Ranges as well as Refrigerators, so they will probably be better suited towards your project. Sounds like a fun project though!
LINK: http://www.antiquestoves.com/toac/
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Post# 9138-11/14/2001-13:55 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD 11/14 (An End to Washday Drudgery!)
MESSAGE: I used to look like the weary woman sitting on the basement steps in the upper left hand corner of today's POD. Then I found 36 vintages washers and now I look just like the woman in the picture on the right! YAY.
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Post# 9139-11/14/2001-14:47 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
Northern Appliance?
MESSAGE: What all this I hear lately on the tv and radio about the Northern Appliance taking cable? Is this taking the concept of smart, automatic appliances a bit too far? Why would a washer need cable? And I thought the idea was to put the afghan inside the washer, to clean it, rather than put the appliances into the afghan, which probably would only get the afghan dirtier.
Color me... confused!
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Post# 9140-11/14/2001-15:43 ||| devildaddy (Troy NY)
SUBJECT:
Give me an old Frigidaire over my lousy GE anyday
MESSAGE: I was at Mike's this past weekend (you know him as nMaineMan) and was about to buy a new winter coat as the one I had was too costly to have dry cleaned. He offered to wash it for me, although I initially expressed concern over the fact that it was down-filled. He assured me that it would be fine, and figuring that I was going to replace it anyway, I relented.
He put several different soaps down the agitator of his 1-18, the recipe of which follows. We stayed there and watched the entire cycle of the machine, as he needed to continually hand-agitate the coat because of the air pockets in it. Of course we did the occasional kiss and cuddle while watching the washer. As badly as the dirt was ground into the coat (it hadn't been dry cleaned in 18 months), the Frigidaire got everything out of it. I can only imagine what my 3-year old GE (which has been at death's door more than once) would have done to it.
Mike's Secret Clean Coat Recipe:
1 - filthy down-filled winter coat
1 scoop Tide HE
1 scoop Cheer with bleach
1 scoop OxyClean
1 scoop Clorox 2
Shout (spray on affected areas)
Dessert:
1 capful Downy (Mountain Spring)
Optional ingredients
2 carrots, peeled
14 sticks dynamite (for those extra-tough stains)
1 partridge in a pear tree
---Charlie
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Post# 9141-11/14/2001-15:51 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD 11/14 (just can't resist!)
MESSAGE: Used to...????
-ph
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Post# 9142-11/14/2001-16:29 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Give me an old Frigidaire over my lousy GE anyday
MESSAGE: Charlie, I'm thrilled Mike is "learnin'" you well about the marvels of a GM Frigidaire. And I'm pleased with the results. As for your plastic-tub GE, you should put it out to pasture and shoot it. Maybe it will hold together until y'all are under one roof someday. Bob
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Post# 9143-11/14/2001-16:30 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Give me an old Frigidaire over my lousy GE anyday (YAY, ANOTHER CONVERT)
MESSAGE: And, welcome to the family of Frigidaire afficionados. They're the best!
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Post# 9144-11/14/2001-16:32 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD 11/14 (just can't resist!)
MESSAGE: Peter, ya gotta quit looking at all the convention pictures where Robert was just run ragged. It's not a fair comparison to his usual visage. If you persist such absurdities, you may have to Neal in front of him and apologize.
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Post# 9145-11/14/2001-16:40 ||| trainguy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
RE: Give me an old Frigidaire over my lousy GE anyday
MESSAGE: devildaddy, The oxi-clean really does wonders. I use 1/2 scoop in my Frigidaire front loader with 1/2 the recommended amount of liquid detergent. I rarely pretreat anything anymore. Oxi-clean and Frigidaire - what a pair! Glad your coat came clean. trainguy
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Post# 9146-11/14/2001-17:06 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Give me an old Frigidaire over my lousy GE anyday (oxi-clean)
MESSAGE: I like oxi-clean - I used about 1/2 scoop in my Equator to brighten some towels and I did notice a difference. I don't like to use clorine bleach unless it is a absolute white load.
Peter
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Post# 9147-11/14/2001-18:10 ||| spiralator60 (Los Angeles, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture Of The Day (Philco-Bendix Chronology)
MESSAGE: I have no argument about the '47 Bendix with the Avco statement tag. It is quite possible that Avco and Bendix linked up during the war and, after the war ended, decided on some sort of exchange of assets or resources, with the legal formalities taking place later on. Both Bendix and Avco (Aviation Corporation) were involved in aircraft parts and tooling, so this is where the synergy was present.
It is not the easiest thing in the world to do when looking for older company or product patent information such as for the Bendix. As you may have discovered, the Internet is not the best place to do this. Being a librarian, this is something that I frequently encounter. It is true that such information does exist, so your best bet would be to look through files of paper (or microfilm) copies of patent information, as few electronic database files contain the type of material that we are talking about. Such collections can be found on the campuses of major research universities, and the central libraries of large cities such as the New York Public Library, Chicago Public Library, and the Los Angeles Public Library.
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Post# 9148-11/14/2001-18:15 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT:
RE: F&P dishdrawer
MESSAGE: I'm not to concerned with the cleaning. Its going downstairs in the bar so it will only be washing glasses and coffee cups. Maybe a few over flow dishes form a large party. I would never consider replacing my 9150! Not with this thing.
SD
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Post# 9149-11/14/2001-18:29 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture Of The Day (ZIP Code dates Bendix)
MESSAGE: Hey Greg
Congats on your new WHITE Frigidaire 1-18.
You asked about when the ZIP Code system was implemented. It went into effect on July 1, 1963. So that Bendix is probably mid-sixties.
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Post# 9150-11/14/2001-18:35 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture Of The Day (Philco-Bendix Chronology)
MESSAGE: oops...I posted before I read all the messages. Spiralator gave you the answer a few posts later. At least we both gave the same answer. Little did you know that So Cal guys know all about ZIP Codes. Ha!
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Post# 9151-11/14/2001-18:37 ||| frigemore (Chicago IL)
SUBJECT:
Picture of the day?????
MESSAGE: Didn't we just see that pic last week???? Spank Spank ;)
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Post# 9152-11/14/2001-19:22 ||| frigemore (Chicago IL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture Of The Day (Philco Bendix)
MESSAGE: Ford Dumped Philco in the late 1960s
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Post# 9153-11/14/2001-19:44 ||| Miss jet cone (Hopkins ,MN)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Lovely Evening (chestermikeuk please read this post#9083)
MESSAGE:
HI Mike !
I made a boo boo.I wanted to post this
for you sorry.
thanks miss jet cone
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Post# 9154-11/14/2001-20:16 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD 11/14 (just can't resist!)
MESSAGE: WELL, I've never!
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Post# 9155-11/14/2001-20:20 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture of the day????? (Roulette Wheel)
MESSAGE: Yes we did. For new members the way the picture of the day works is as follows:
There are 87 different pictures loaded into the database. At 2am Central Time the server spins it's roulette wheel and picks a new picture of the day. I now have it set so if the roulette wheel lands on the same picture as the previous day (this has happened more than once) the wheel is respun and a new picture is chosen. Its all random, and any picture can come up at any time, as well as be repeated at any time.
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Post# 9156-11/14/2001-20:29 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture Of The Day (Philco-Bendix Chronology)
MESSAGE: I know 90069 quite well...
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Post# 9157-11/14/2001-20:41 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Give me an old Frigidaire over my lousy GE anyday
MESSAGE: Rich, I've not been too impressed with Oxy-Clean in the wash. And I used a whole scoop in my TLer as well as calgon & detergent. I had to rewash with bleach.
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Post# 9158-11/14/2001-20:51 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture Of The Day (Philco-Bendix Chronology)
MESSAGE: Greg!!!!!
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Post# 9159-11/14/2001-20:58 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Give me an old Frigidaire over my lousy GE anyday
MESSAGE: Charlie - what great results - on the jacket, I mean!!! Stories like that kind of make me even more apoplectic over what was done to the venerable GM Frigidaire and some of the general crap that is out there today. Sad that the days of the 1-18, the old GE's that were built like tanks and the Norge Timelines that sounded like tanks are gone forever. Sorry to hear that you too are having GE nightmares. I had similar "death's door" experiences with two GE washers in a row. Within 4.5 years, I literally went through 2 GE machines. GE replaced the first one but wouldn't refund any $. After the second one flooded my main level, they did buy it back from me. If you are having continual problems, I urge you to contact the chairman's office. There are people assigned to the chairman that handle individual consumer complaints. I imagine that with today's GE laundry quality, those folks are quite busy. On the other hand, people tend not to fight for themselves, so I shouldn't comment..............
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Post# 9160-11/14/2001-21:02 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD 11/14 (just can't resist!)
MESSAGE: I haven't lately either................
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Post# 9161-11/14/2001-21:04 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Give me an old Frigidaire over my lousy GE anyday
MESSAGE: Anthony, it's kinda GE appliances in general. They're gonna have to dig themselves out of the quality basement. I think Frigidaire has now gotten better than them.
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Post# 9162-11/14/2001-21:05 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD 11/14 (just can't resist!)
MESSAGE: Me Neither!!!!
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Post# 9163-11/14/2001-21:12 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Give me an old Frigidaire over my lousy GE anyday (GE)
MESSAGE: I have the ge advantium120 micro. I love the oven but ge sux. Their service is terrible. The left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. I needed a upgrade done after I bought the oven (to the circuit board). They cancelled 2 appoitments twice & once I waited for them for 5 hours. They finally showed up after they sent me the parts. They send me 2 circuit boards. I only told them I got 1. Also 1 time when I called for service I reach NewDeli India. They explained they have their service centers all over the world. I explained my disgust & told them they should get their shit together. And now that it has been fixed about 3 weeks ago I recieved 2 more calls that they want to come out to fix it. I don't think I will ever buy another ge product again.
Peter
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Post# 9164-11/14/2001-21:18 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Give me an old Frigidaire over my lousy GE anyday (GE)
MESSAGE: Peter, it's kinda sad. The oven really intrigues me too.
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Post# 9165-11/14/2001-21:32 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Give me an old Frigidaire over my lousy GE anyday (advantuim120)
MESSAGE: In spite of all the hassel - It's a real great oven
Peter
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Post# 9166-11/14/2001-21:38 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Give me an old Frigidaire over my lousy GE anyday (advantuim120)
MESSAGE: Washrfreak really seems to like his, but he's still getting used to his too.
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Post# 9167-11/14/2001-23:14 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Give me an old Frigidaire over my lousy GE anyday
MESSAGE: Oxy-clean is basically sodium carbonate (cheap washing soda) and sodium percarbonate (oxygen bleach). The sodium percarbonate is the most active ingredient. I believe it has the advantage of working at lower temperatures than the usual oxygen bleach, sodium perborate. However if you use warm to hot water (104F or hotter) then the sodium perborate in Clorox II and many "with color safe bleach" types of detergents, then the Oxyclean may not add much value.
I have found I don't have to use chlorine bleach if I use a 33% mix of STPP to 67% detergent with color safe bleach, in hot water (130 degrees). Warm water works pretty well, also, but the hot does seem to work better for heavily soiled clothing. And of course it will help sanitize better.
The key ingredient in Oxyclean, sodium percarbonate, can be picked up at chemical warehouses for a fraction of the cost of Oxyclean. Sodium perborate is used in most detergent formulations because the sodium percarbonate is not as stable in typical laundry detergent formulations. This is especially true if the detergent contains zeolites. Zeolites act as oxygen scavengers, and encourage the decomposition of sodium percarbonate. Sodium perborate can work at lower temps if a "bleach activator" is added, and many products now use such activators.
The borate part of sodium perborate also adds some buffering and water softening activity.
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Post# 9168-11/14/2001-23:18 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Give me an old Frigidaire over my lousy GE anyday (oxygen bleaches)
MESSAGE: Forgot to add a link.
Plus, there are enviornmental concerns about the boron in sodium perborate formulations. While boron is an essential plant and animal micronutrient, excessive boron in soil is toxic to many plants. It is difficult to leach out of soil as well.
LINK: http://pubs.acs.org/cen/coverstory/7903/7903prod1.html
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Post# 9169-11/15/2001-06:47 ||| JasonL (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
POD 60 Frigidaire
MESSAGE: Wow, check out the honey. The Frigidaire looks nice too.
Is that a Unimatic or Multimatic washer? One of the club members has one like this.
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Post# 9170-11/15/2001-07:13 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD 60 Frigidaire
MESSAGE: Its a 4 speed Multimatic Jason, Scott55405 has one of those WCI-60's. I have one another one taken apart up in the attic.
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Post# 9171-11/15/2001-07:35 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD 60 Frigidaire (Multimatic)
MESSAGE: What's the spin rpm on those?
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Post# 9172-11/15/2001-08:58 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD 60 Frigidaire (Multimatic)
MESSAGE: Agitate Low: 220ppm
Agitate High: 330ppm
Spin Low: 330rpm
Spin High: 850rpm
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Post# 9173-11/15/2001-09:31 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
Tomorrow night
MESSAGE: Of course, as some of you know, tomorrow night is laundry night. The 2nd official laundry night for my Frigmore. I have a whole week of clothes and towels to wash. That should be a good 3 loads right there. The pizza for tomorrow night will be the usual Dominoes Pepperoni pizza with cheesybread. I haven't decided yet what CD I will listen to as I watch the clothes wash. I think since I'm doing 2 loads tomorrow, I should listen to Pink Floyd: The Wall (2 cds). But what do I play for the 3rd load? Maybe an encore of The Beatles: Yellow Submarine? Hmmm.. I'll have to think about that. Now all I need is a sound system in my laundry space.
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Post# 9174-11/15/2001-09:43 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD 11/14 (WELL, I've never)
MESSAGE: To quote a line from an old film, "Oh yeah, well you have now!" Said by sort of a brassy dame to a woman who was trying to sound so very refined.
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Post# 9175-11/15/2001-09:46 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture Of The Day (90069)
MESSAGE: 90069 is Hollywood, isn't it? That was the ZIP for Chuck Thomson's famous lists and newsletters revealing sexual secrets of the stars.
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Post# 9176-11/15/2001-09:47 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Tomorrow night
MESSAGE: How about Fleetwood Mac's Rumours? Whirly is probably singing "Second Hand News" already...
-ph
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Post# 9177-11/15/2001-09:51 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Give me an old Frigidaire over my lousy GE anyday
MESSAGE: I buy sodium percarbonate from the Chemistry Store and even with freight it is cheaper than Oxy Clean.
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Post# 9178-11/15/2001-09:53 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD 60 Frigidaire (WCI-60)
MESSAGE: More than one member has one of these beauties. Wonder why they felt the need to call it an electric washer? Was this as opposed to the atomic model they were working on?
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Post# 9179-11/15/2001-09:55 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
1970 keyboard Lady Kenmore
MESSAGE: Tonight I pick up a 1970 keyboard LK. It appears to be the TOL to the Kenmore in my album, but it's in Gansky Gold. It appears to be in great shape, except for the dispenser system. Pics will come over the weekend. It could be good for parts for the '55, or if it's really good it could find a home in Florida...
I know I have this washer below listed as a '72, but looking at the tag on the one I just found, I think it's a '70. Can anyone confirm? The one I'm picking up tonight has the same gold pattern on the console. FYI - the washer in the pic below has gone to the Krusher as it was riddled with rust and the timer was completely shot.
-ph
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/vwp?.dir=/Yahoo!+Photo+Album&.src=ph&.dnm=72+Kenmore+washer.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/lst%3f%26.dir=/Yahoo!%2bPhoto%2bAlbum%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 9180-11/15/2001-09:58 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD 60 Frigidaire
MESSAGE: I'd love to have one of these [washers]. It's got to be one of the most stylized Frigidaires made, besides the clam shell '62 and the Flair style variable speed Rollermatic ('78?).
-ph
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Post# 9181-11/15/2001-10:02 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Tomorrow night (second hand news?)
MESSAGE: To loosely quote Harry Chapin
"Now, Whirly's acting happy in his brand new home"
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Post# 9182-11/15/2001-10:04 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1970 keyboard Lady Kenmore (YAY)
MESSAGE: If only it was avocado green. I can't wait to see the pics.
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Post# 9183-11/15/2001-10:11 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1970 keyboard Lady Kenmore
MESSAGE: Peter, link says restricted. Bob
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Post# 9184-11/15/2001-10:34 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD 60 Frigidaire (WCI-60)
MESSAGE: I thought that was odd too Tom. Probabaly was written by and edited by a person who obviously was not an "expert" in their field.
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Post# 9185-11/15/2001-12:09 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1970 keyboard Lady Kenmore
MESSAGE: I just love all the pics. I remember looking at that 1970/1972? Kenmore in the catalog and in the store.
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Post# 9186-11/15/2001-12:30 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Tomorrow night
MESSAGE: I like to listen to the sound track from "Saving Private Ryan" on my home theatre when doing car covers in the Neptune.
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Post# 9187-11/15/2001-12:31 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture Of The Day (90069)
MESSAGE: They have secrets?
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Post# 9188-11/15/2001-12:33 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Give me an old Frigidaire over my lousy GE anyday
MESSAGE: I suppose a few ounces of H2O2 liquid hydrogen peroxide from the drug store would work just as well.
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Post# 9189-11/15/2001-12:55 ||| madigan (Santa Ana CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dexter Twin Tub (Thanks for the error (:-)!)
MESSAGE: A family friend had that Duomatic Combo - I remember that top opening detergent door...
Automagic!
jjm
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Post# 9190-11/15/2001-12:57 ||| madigan (Santa Ana CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Give me an old Frigidaire over my lousy GE anyday (Purex/Persil?!?)
MESSAGE: Surely I couldn't have gotten that from your link...
That would be an interesting development.
jjm
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Post# 9191-11/15/2001-12:58 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD 11/14 (WELL, I've never)
MESSAGE: And of course, TT, there is the response from a few old TV shows ........" Yes, honey and it certainly does show!"
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Post# 9192-11/15/2001-12:59 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD 60 Frigidaire (WCI-60)
MESSAGE: I was wondering the same thing............
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Post# 9193-11/15/2001-13:01 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD 60 Frigidaire
MESSAGE: Sigh............ who wouldn't want one of those?? I was lamenting just the other day that I think they have been completely blown off the planet in my area - or maybe it is just due to the rust factor in this high humidity state............
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Post# 9194-11/15/2001-13:10 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture Of The Day (90069)
MESSAGE: Lots, because these reports were from the days when the stars themselves did not show and tell all.
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Post# 9195-11/15/2001-13:12 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD 60 Frigidaire (sigh)
MESSAGE: I'll take the girl and the washer, but it seems I can't find either one.
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Post# 9196-11/15/2001-13:13 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Give me an old Frigidaire over my lousy GE anyday
MESSAGE: My guess is that it would depend on the volume of the hydrogen peroxide. Diluting 3 volume in a bunch of water would not yield much bleaching. Buying stronger stuff like for beauty salon use would cost a good bit if you were using it in quantities sufficient to do loads of laundry.
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Post# 9197-11/15/2001-13:21 ||| madigan (Santa Ana CA)
SUBJECT:
He3t(3) - A Love Story Gone Awry...
MESSAGE: Well, the latest in the ongoing saga -
When last we visited HE3t(2), the Sears Tech had been out and confirmed the dispenser actuator was foobar. New part ordered. (and he told me he'd try to get me manuals for the washer and dryer!)
Wednesday I called Snears to see if the part could be air shipped - was told they'd have to call Whirlpool to check ETA. They called back and told me the part was backordered with no ETA.
Whoo - If I ever try to introduce a premium product to the marketplace, remind me to have the support infrastructure in place at time of launch!
Anyway, I was willing to wait a week and a half for the part. I am unwilling to wait an unknown length of time, in the meantime being "dependent on the kindness of strangers" (;-) to do my laundry!
I called the Department Manager and HE3t(3) is going to be delivered Friday.
I think if I could find a Whirlpool or Bendix combo (or of course a Maytag A900 and matching dryer) right now, I'd give up this modern love affair!!
Thanks for the support. I'm starting to feel like a digital front-loader junkie!
jjm
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Post# 9198-11/15/2001-16:00 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: He3t(3) - A Love Story Gone Awry...
MESSAGE: Well I think this is unfortunate but perhaps to be expected with a brand new machine that has to be imported as well. I think you made a good choice for a front loader, it will just take some time for all the glitches and parts shortages to be worked out. I'd say I'm glad I didn't go through a similar experience with the Neptune 7500, but I'd rather not tempt fate. I did buy a spare door boot gasket, just in case, even though the thing is under warranty. It was only abou $50. I suppose the next part most likely to fail is the drum bearing, but since the entire outer tub has to be replaced when the bearing goes, and it costs $300, I won't be stocking a spare one of those.
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Post# 9199-11/15/2001-16:20 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: He3t(3) - A Love Story Gone Awry... (It's 1948 all over again!)
MESSAGE: Wow, that's some saga your going through Jim. At least Sears is willing to give you a replacement machine, keep us posted on that Jim.
I don't think delivering a replacement was always the case in the early days of the automatic washer. For a quick, interesting reading, from our Home page check out the "Vintage Consumer Articles Libary" and scroll down and select the article "Consumer Research Bulletin-Feb 1948", page 1. Read the first two paragraphs of this article, it sort of says it all about what your going through.
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Post# 9200-11/15/2001-16:49 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: He3t(3) - A Love Story Gone Awry... (Welcome to the 2nd golden age)
MESSAGE: The washer industry is evolving once again and we're into the new wave of energy efficient, and once again.. collectible washers (thank God).
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Post# 9201-11/15/2001-17:18 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Picture Of The Day (90069)
MESSAGE: 90069 is West Hollywood --- Boys Town!
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Post# 9202-11/15/2001-17:30 ||| madigan (Santa Ana CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: He3t(3) - A Love Story Gone Awry... (6 months - grrr...)
MESSAGE: Folks must have had a lot more patience back then...
And regarding complexity, I remember an old Consumer Report on washing machines (must have been after the last one posted) complaining about how complex the machines had become, some with as many as 3 (as I recall) pumps, etc, etc.
Any candidates for most complex washer? I vote for the Whirlpool Combo with the gas heater...
And BTW - the third page of the 1952 Dishwasher report is a washing machine report page (:o ...
jjm
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Post# 9203-11/15/2001-17:59 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: He3t(3) - A Love Story Gone Awry... (6 months - grrr...)
MESSAGE: Thanks Jim, boy that whole dishwasher article was screwed up, I fixed all the links, its now correct.
Actually the early Whirlpool Combos were a very simple machine, the 29" models introduced in '61 were much more complicated, but they removed the water heater by that time (I think).
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Post# 9204-11/15/2001-18:07 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD 60 Frigidaire
MESSAGE: Do you mean the cabinet washer? 1968, another engineering solution for a problem that didn't exist. I still want one though, but I'd have to remodel my laundry room to accomodate that tall girl!
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Post# 9205-11/15/2001-18:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
History of Frigidaire Washers
MESSAGE: Way back in message #63 on the yahoo club (4/3/00) Robert S. (Uni) posted a brief history of Frigidaire washers and the design changes that evolved over the years. I printed this out a long time ago and refer to it every now and then. I stored it as a .doc file on Yahoo Briefcase tonight as I thought others may like this reference too.
Let me know if this link works...
Robert, thanks again for your knowlege and dedication to our club - the flow of information is endless - and timeless!
LINK: http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/3ebfb018/bc/History+of+Frigidaire+Washers/Frigidaire+Unimatic+History.doc?bcYYMR8A4GyA91FT
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Post# 9206-11/15/2001-18:46 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: History of Frigidaire Washers
MESSAGE: The linkie no workie.
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Post# 9207-11/15/2001-18:58 ||| madigan (Santa Ana CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: He3t(3) - A Love Story Gone Awry... (Whirlpool Combo)
MESSAGE: Was the '61 the model that had a verical row of pushbuttons on each side the timer dial?
And thanks for fixing the dw report!
jjm
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Post# 9208-11/15/2001-18:58 ||| trainguy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
RE: History of Frigidaire Washers
MESSAGE: This article is great! Uni, thanks so much for writing it and thanks for posting it Greg.
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Post# 9209-11/15/2001-19:08 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: History of Frigidaire Washers (Frigidaire History)
MESSAGE: I enjoyed reading this article
To bad it had such a horrible ending.
Peter
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Post# 9210-11/15/2001-19:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: History of Frigidaire Washers
MESSAGE: It didn't work for you? Should I save this as a web page instead of a .doc file?
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Post# 9211-11/15/2001-19:39 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: History of Frigidaire Washers
MESSAGE: I get a message from Yahoo --
You must supply a local referrer to get URL
'/users/3ebfb018/bc/History+of+Frigidaire+Washers/Frigidaire+Unimatic+History.doc' from this server.
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Post# 9212-11/15/2001-20:11 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: History of Frigidaire Washers
MESSAGE: I get the same message......with the announcement that this is "FORBIDDEN" territory or some such!
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Post# 9213-11/15/2001-20:46 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
Here we go again (rain)
MESSAGE: We've had over 8 inches of rain since 3 o'clock this afternoon and it's still coming down!!!! Shades of August.
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Post# 9214-11/15/2001-20:54 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: History of Frigidaire Washers
MESSAGE: I'm getting the very same messages as Leslie & Glenn.
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Post# 9215-11/15/2001-21:00 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: History of Frigidaire Washers
MESSAGE: I would bet this has to do with the type of file it's saved as. I'll try to load it in with a different file type and we'll see.....
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Post# 9216-11/15/2001-21:08 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: History of Frigidaire Washers (OK, Try this...)
MESSAGE: Sorry I don't know what I'm doing! Let's try this - I saved it as a web page, so your browser should be able to open it. (?)
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/threeringagitator/lst?.dir=/Frigidaire+Unimatic+History&.src=bc&.last=1
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Post# 9217-11/15/2001-21:11 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Here we go again (rain) (Not Yet)
MESSAGE: Hmmm. Had a brief shower earlier in the day (yes that kind too). Maybe what you have is heading my way . . .
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Post# 9218-11/15/2001-21:13 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: History of Frigidaire Washers (OK, Try this...)
MESSAGE: Now I'm getting . . .
Yahoo Briefcase Error Message!
You have reached a restricted area.
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Post# 9219-11/15/2001-21:16 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: History of Frigidaire Washers (Now, this one works!)
MESSAGE: http://briefcase.yahoo.com/threeringagitator/
and then click on the "History of Frigidaire Washers" folder.
LINK: http://briefcase.yahoo.com/threeringagitator/
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Post# 9220-11/15/2001-21:19 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: History of Frigidaire Washers
MESSAGE: Include me in that group of error messages also.................
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Post# 9221-11/15/2001-21:26 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: History of Frigidaire Washers (Now, this one works!)
MESSAGE: Thanks, I was finally able to get in after all....
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Post# 9222-11/15/2001-21:29 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: History of Frigidaire Washers (Now, this one works!)
MESSAGE: Thanks, a great history. Would be even better with embedded graphics and photos of the various designs!
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Post# 9223-11/15/2001-21:29 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: History of Frigidaire Washers (OK, Try this...)
MESSAGE: Not to worry, Gregster! The gremlins been running wild down here all week.
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Post# 9224-11/15/2001-21:40 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Here we go again (rain) (Not Yet)
MESSAGE: It could be, my parents said to night that what's in San Antonio will slowly be moving to Houston in the next 2 days. This IS a aslow moving system as you can tell. Austin supposedly had a tornado.
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Post# 9225-11/15/2001-21:46 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Here we go again (rain) (Not Yet)
MESSAGE: Distant thunder rumbling . . .
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Post# 9226-11/15/2001-22:13 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Here we go again (rain)
MESSAGE: In August, we received over 15 inches of rain in 5 days.
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Post# 9227-11/15/2001-22:20 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Here we go again (rain) (Not Yet)
MESSAGE: Glenn, weathercasst just said it's rainning form Dallas to San Antonio & is also reach just outside Houston!!! We've had gusts up to 70 mph tonight!!!
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Post# 9228-11/15/2001-22:30 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Here we go again (rain) (Here we are!)
MESSAGE: Link
LINK: http://www.weather.com/weather/alerts/nswxcategory/tornado
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Post# 9229-11/15/2001-22:32 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: History of Frigidaire Washers (Link works now - finally!)
MESSAGE: When I set this up in a file as a web document, I didn't open the folder for public viewing - that was the problem, the second time around!
Hopefully this will work - I'll add it to the links section if it does.
Thanks for the "trial and error" patience all....a learning experience!
LINK: http://edit.briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/threeringagitator/lst?.dir=/Frigidaire+Unimatic+History
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Post# 9230-11/15/2001-22:37 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Here we go again (rain) (Here we are!)
MESSAGE: We haven't had rain in weeks - a spit drizzle the other day, but not enought to matter. Everything is so dry and dusty - no hanging clothes this weekend!
I love thunderstorms and tornado weather - the feeling of the air outside, kind of heavy & thick and so very still. A tornado would be no fun, but it's still a thrill from the danger and power of mother nature.
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Post# 9231-11/15/2001-22:55 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: History of Frigidaire Washers
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg for posting that link, its also posted here at message 90 in the archives.
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Post# 9232-11/15/2001-22:56 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: He3t(3) - A Love Story Gone Awry... (Whirlpool Combo)
MESSAGE: Yes, the first pushbutton one was the 1960 version, but that was a 33" model like mine, the '61 also had a verical row of pushbuttons on each side of the timer too, but that was on a sperate control panel and it was a 29" model.
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Post# 9233-11/15/2001-00:22 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Here we go again (rain) (It's Here!)
MESSAGE: Rain, lightning, thunder.
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Post# 9234-11/16/2001-05:37 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: He3t(3) - A Love Story Gone Awry... (6 months - grrr...)
MESSAGE: John counted the parts of the 29 inch Kenmore gas combo and came up with 1600, the same number of parts in a Volkswagon Beetle. Things can be so much simpler today with variable speed motors to eliminate the transmission, separate, smaller motors to power pumps and blowers, electronic timers and out of balance sensors and so many other things to eliminate so many mechanical parts.
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Post# 9235-11/16/2001-06:16 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: He3t(3) - A Love Story Gone Awry... (Complex Combos)
MESSAGE: The first 29 inch combos still had water heating, but their big downfall was the elimination of the dryer lint screen. They used a centrifugal separator like the Kenmore dryers with lint storage, except that these machines washed the lint down the drain in the purge before the fill. There was a removable access panel in the tub, like in GE combos and Maytag pre Halo-of-Heat dryers, and a little strainer in the pump sump. With heavy linty loads, this got clogged. WP had to retrofit, in the field, all of these machines with new tops to allow access to a lint filter and all new ductwork to accommodate the filter. Among the changes they made was the elimination of the shutter system that allowed recirculation of the air within the machine that had enabled them to heat the water with the dryer heater, which is how the original 33" gas combo heated water. It was shortly after this fiasco that the Whirlpool Ultimatic combo disappeared from the market and the machine was made only for Sears. This early machine, because it ran the pump and blower at the same time also switched on the heater during parts of the final spin to get things heated up before actual drying started. The modified machine included a shifter that moved the drive belt between the pump pulley and the blower pulley so you could not have both running at once eliminating this feature. One other thing, the early machine spun at 500 rpm, not the 400 of the later ones. It also did not spin like the later combos with the first half of spin being the hesitation spins at the low speed. It went right into a spin that balanced and went to full speed. Then, after maybe 4 minutes, there was a slow to tumble and a "peel off rinse" began which shifted water circulation from the balance apparatus back to the wash stream to spray the clothes with small amounts of the final finse water that is retained in the machine to fill the balance tanks as needed to balance the load to get the thing into spin. Anyway, the clothes would fall away from the sides of the drum and tumble before the second spin. The purpose of this was so that the clothes would fall away from the sides of the drum at the end of the spin before the machine went into dry. This is why the Duomatic had the 3 speed transmission to give the low speed spin before the high speed spin and then the sequence of low spin, stop, tumble, low spin and high speed final spin. Sopping wet clothes pack tighter than not so sopping ones. Spinning a large amount of water out of the load and then repositioning the clothes meant that they did not adhere so tightly to the drum in the final spin, although the instruction book for the Duomatic mentioned checking the machine after the final spin when you had highly absorbant loads like towels and diapers in it. Philco used a couple of different methods to achieve this effect more cheaply with the 27 inch combos. Even the 33" combos had a pre spin before the final spin at the ripping speed of what 225-250 rpm? I sort of think it was more to try to remove some water so that there was a beter chance of the load positioning itself in a more balanced way for the final spin.
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Post# 9236-11/16/2001-06:27 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Here we go again (rain) (storms vs tornados)
MESSAGE: I used to love storms before our tornado. Now, I greet predictions of them with discomfort, sort of like I am made very nervous by drivers who rush up to intersections when I have the right of way after a lady hit me by running a red light. I know not all thunderstorms bring tornados, but the experience is a little too fresh right now. Maybe by spring I will be able to enjoy a good thunderstorm.
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Post# 9237-11/16/2001-06:56 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: He3t(3) - A Love Story Gone Awry... (Complex Combos)
MESSAGE: Thanks Tom, that was a very interesting description. You have such a wonderful knowledge base its always interesting reading your informative posts.
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Post# 9238-11/16/2001-07:11 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: He3t(3) - A Love Story Gone Awry... (Complex Combos)
MESSAGE: Hi Tom
Thanks for the detailed info, filled in the missing pieces of the machine from having seen it at the convention, wonderful "splasher jet washer"
Mike
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Post# 9239-11/16/2001-07:14 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Here we go again (rain) (Crash,Bang,Whallop!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Glen
Make sure you keep in all over there....
Mike
p.s. Probably not a good as the thunder you created in the F&P with video & light!!!! (sorry for the reminder!!)
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Post# 9240-11/16/2001-07:14 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Here we go again (rain)
MESSAGE: Hi Bob
Not bad for that time of year then...
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 9241-11/16/2001-07:20 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: History of Frigidaire Washers (Link works now - finally!)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg
Never mind, 5th time lucky....it was worth it in the end....interesting insight into that FAB machine...
Cheers, Mike
p.s. been back to that electrical department yetfor a further look!!!
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Post# 9242-11/16/2001-07:40 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
POD - Kelvinator has no gears?
MESSAGE: (newbie question)
How do they advertise a Kelvinator washer has no gears to break? What kind of transmission does it have?
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Post# 9243-11/16/2001-07:43 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Here we go again (rain) (storms vs tornados)
MESSAGE: I was nine when Omaha was hit with five tornados, so the stormy weather fascination probably stems from some of that childlike innocence. Usually once or twice a year I gather Skyler and Jack and head for the basement if the "hook" of the thunderstorm front is passing over the city - the thrill changes to fear when the danger is in the back yard.
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Post# 9244-11/16/2001-07:52 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD - Kelvinator has no gears?
MESSAGE: Rich (golittlesport) posted a scan of a cutaway view of this mechanism - here's the link. This may help everyone understand, remember there is no oscillating agitator, gearing isn't really needed.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/golittlesport/vwp?.dir=/Vintage+Ads+%26+other+stuff&.src=ph&.dnm=ABC-O-Matic+cut-away.JPG&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/golittlesport/lst%3f%26.dir=/Vintage%2bAds%2b%2526%2bother%2bstuff%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 9245-11/16/2001-09:05 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD - Kelvinator has no gears? (No Gears and No Transmission)
MESSAGE: That's right, there is no gears or transmission in the ingenious and marvelously simply ABC design. The ABC-O-Matic and Kelvinator Orbital design means that the motion applied to the moving parts are only turning in one direction. Meaning for wash the agitator travels in a wide circle around the tub never changing counter-clockwise direction and for spin the tub rotates clockwise only in one direction. This is unlike an oscillating agitator that changes direction from back to forth or a pulsating agitator that changes direction from up to down. So all you need is two pulleys, one to drive the agitator in a circle, the other pulley to drive the spin tub.
Look closely at the scan from Golittlesport that Greg just posted the link to. Both those big drive pulleys in the center of the machine are driven by one smaller pulley on the motor at 1750rpm. The bottom pulley is the agitate pulley, its larger so it will turn the agitator pulley (directly connected to the agitator) at a slower speed (300 opm’s) than the upper pulley. The upper pulley is the spin pulley and this is smaller to drive the tub at a faster 580rpm.
Both pulleys are always spinning when the motor is in operation. But how then does the tub not turn during agitation or the agitator turn during spin you ask??
Both pulleys contain a special drive spring inside them. The agitate pulley’s spring is wrapped in such a manner so it clamps down hard on the agitator drive shaft when the agitate pulley is driven counter-clockwise. When the motor reverse the direction its turning to put the machine into spin, that spring on the agitate pulley unwinds and loosens is grip on the agitator shaft so even though the agitate pulley is turning its not transferring any motion to the agitator shaft during spin. The spin pulley is set up the exact same way so the spring on the spin pulley grips the spin shaft during spin and looses its grip during agitate.
Clear as mud?
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/golittlesport/vwp?.dir=/Vintage+Ads+%26+other+stuff&.src=ph&.dnm=ABC-O-Matic+cut-away.JPG&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/golittlesport/lst%3f%26.dir=/Vintage%2bAds%2b%2526%2bother%2bstuff%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 9246-11/16/2001-09:28 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD - Kelvinator has no gears? (No Gears, No tranny, but plenty of other problems)
MESSAGE: Robert, sounds like the helical spring that engages the Maytag tranny. Wish that they had used a spin pulley that would have given a faster spin. John says that the Kelvinator machines were very unreliable and that theirs was always breaking down. The timer was unreliable and expensive among other things.
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Post# 9247-11/16/2001-10:01 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Here we go again (rain) (storms vs tornados)
MESSAGE: Well Tom, I still can identify with you concerning the people coming up to intersections fast, even after 10.5 years. Also, I still get nervous with bad weather like yesterday. I'm constantly listening for the tornado siren and the train whistles that are about a mile away can confuse me sometime. Having the "Jarrell" tornado come with 3 miles of my house (May, 1997) is something I'll probably never get over. Spent hours in the linen closet that day--only central place in my house, other than the hallway with all the bedroom doors closed to it.
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Post# 9248-11/16/2001-10:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD - Kelvinator has no gears? (No Gears, No tranny, but plenty of other problems)
MESSAGE: We'll I would only sort of agree with John's assessment Tom. From what I've read the drive system were very reliable. Their main problem was the fact that the water seals were not as effective as they should have been leading to slow water leaks which destroyed the bearings. Of course there are always lemons out there no matter what brand of machine it is. As for the timers, they used standard mallory timers just like 95% of the rest of the industry during the 50's and 60's.
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Post# 9249-11/16/2001-10:03 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: He3t(3) - A Love Story Gone Awry... (Complex Combos)
MESSAGE: Knowing you for just a short almost 2 years and meeting you in person, i'm still in awe of your extensive knowledge. Thanks tom. I love those old combos.
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Post# 9250-11/16/2001-10:05 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Here we go again (rain)
MESSAGE: It was too much rain too fast in that time period, ground saturated.
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Post# 9251-11/16/2001-10:52 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD - Kelvinator has no gears? (No Gears, No tranny, but plenty of other problems)
MESSAGE: Yes, the drive system was reliable and yes, they could leak. What the machine did to timers I don't know, but different machines can stress timers in different ways. But something about the reliability does help explain why there are not that many Kelvinator machines out there, even factoring in that not a huge number were sold. After a couple of expensive repairs or a string of minor annoyances, people elected to get rid of them rather than repair them at some point. CU never gave them much of a reliability rating, either, I seem to remember. John does say that the later versions were more reliable than the earlier ones, but for example, they never switched to plastic pumps; they stayed with aluminum to the end and that just is not as durable with laundry agents over time. I am not saying that they were not neat machines to watch, or that they did not clean clothes. They just did not seem to last. It's a shame that they did not evolve into a second generation machine, but were kept sort of as their inventors made them.
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Post# 9252-11/16/2001-11:12 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD - Kelvinator has no gears? (No Gears, No tranny, but plenty of other problems)
MESSAGE: I would certain agree with that assement Tom, and you're right they are an extremely rare machine to find today. They did change the water sealing system in about 1960 or so to a slighly better design, but they still had leaking problems.
When I found my ABC-O-Matic last year, the problem with the machine was that the glue that held the clutch pads to the clutch shoes had worn away, allowing the shoes to fall off. I rebonded the shoes back on to the pads using JB-Weld and the machine has worked perfectly every since. Fortunately my machine does not show any signs of leaking.
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Post# 9253-11/16/2001-12:33 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD - Kelvinator has no gears? (no turning 'tators)
MESSAGE: But the real mystery is how the agitator goes around without turning...???
-ph
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Post# 9254-11/16/2001-13:01 ||| Lenny (Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT:
Hamilton Washer aka GE Filter-flo???
MESSAGE: Does anyone remember the 'HAMILTON' brand of washer? We had one of those for a short time when I was a child. (Probably 1968 or so). It had a non-preforated tub with a thick-posted agitator with a purple filter-flo pan on top. Was this unit some kind of a GE Filter-flo spinoff? It was a neat machine!
Lenny
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Post# 9255-11/16/2001-13:14 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Hamilton Washer aka GE Filter-flo???
MESSAGE: Lenny, did it have a window in the lid too?
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Post# 9256-11/16/2001-13:21 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD - Kelvinator has no gears? (no turning 'tators)
MESSAGE: Good question Peter. The rubber boot that keeps all the water in the tub is clamped to both the bottom of the tub and to the agitator drive base. Since the boot is clamped to the tub and the tub is stationary during agitaton, the boot keeps the base from turning which in effect keeps the agitator from turning. I will take a picture to post later on to show you exactly what I mean.
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Post# 9257-11/16/2001-13:22 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Hamilton Washer aka GE Filter-flo???
MESSAGE: I've never seen one of those Lenny. Hamilton was never produced by GE, they were first produced by Norge and later they were a Franklin produce machine.
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Post# 9258-11/16/2001-14:01 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD - Kelvinator has no gears? (no turning 'tators)
MESSAGE: Having never seen one of these work, let me see if I have the picture straight. The agitator doesn't turn (rotate), but does orbit the center of the tub? So a fin on the agitator always points in the same direction (say, North)?
Definately different.
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Post# 9259-11/16/2001-14:37 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD - Kelvinator has no gears? (no turning flappers either?)
MESSAGE: Gratzi, Robert! And the Automagic has the same tub-agitator boot to keep it a-flappin' without turning also?
-ph
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Post# 9260-11/16/2001-14:38 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
Marquette washer?
MESSAGE: I seem to remember my great-grandmother having a washer made by Marquette(?). It looked 60s and I don't really remember details, but I remember it wouldn't even fill if you lifted the lid. I think it had a water level problem because water would overlow out of the front of the machine :(
Any info appreciated.
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Post# 9261-11/16/2001-14:38 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD - Kelvinator has no gears? (no turning 'tators)
MESSAGE: You got it, Ed.
Glenn, where's the link to your convention movie of the ABC? Didn't Robert have a clip of the machine at work also?
Not that you can see much through all the splashing...
-ph
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Post# 9262-11/16/2001-14:41 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Marquette washer? (A Franklin tranny machine)
MESSAGE: I just bought a Repair-Master for machines with the infamous Franklin transmission, and Marquette is listed on the cover.
-ph
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Post# 9263-11/16/2001-15:16 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD - Kelvinator has no gears? (no turning 'tators)
MESSAGE: Thanks
I think I saw that clip, but really couldn't see much through the spashing so I didn't realize that's what it was doing. Lots of spashing for no rotation.
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Post# 9264-11/16/2001-15:33 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD - Kelvinator has no gears? (no turning 'tators)
MESSAGE: Correct Ed, it moves exactly just like a Kitchen Aid Mixer Beater, but it doesn't rotate. I will post video of the ABC when I get the ABC wing of the museum up.
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Post# 9265-11/16/2001-15:33 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD - Kelvinator has no gears? (no turning flappers either?)
MESSAGE: Yes, exactly Peter!
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Post# 9266-11/16/2001-15:35 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD - Kelvinator has no gears? (Washy Award)
MESSAGE: Yes, by far the ABC and Kelvinator wins a "Washy" award for most dramatic performance of any washing action.
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Post# 9267-11/16/2001-15:36 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
A Frank Discussion About our Site
MESSAGE: Hi everybody. Has anyone recently tried to download any of the commercials in our Vintage Appliance Video Library? Yesterday I tested a few of the links and once again Yahoo booted most of those commercials off their server because of too many downloads of those videos. Unfortunately Yahoo has a very small limit of allowed download requests before they disable the entire briefcase folder. It really is not a good idea for me to continue using Yahoo for posting these big video as it’s a lot of work to keep up with Yahoo who is always deleting our files from their server and making our posted links useless. I would like to share a lot more of these large files with the club, but I’m afraid to post them on our www.classicappliances.com server and here is why:
The company that hosts our web monitors two things. They monitor the amount of disk space taken up by files of ClassicAppliances and they also monitor the Bandwidth used by all the users of our site. The amount of disk space is obvious and that’s not what is an issue for the most part. What our web hosting company really watches is our Bandwidth. Let me explain exactly what Bandwidth is. Bandwidth is how much information is downloaded from our web site on a monthly basis. In other words lets say we have one video of a Hotpoint commercial that is exactly 4.0mb. Every time someone clicks on the link to view/and or download that video, we use 4.0mb of Bandwidth. Now lets say I posted this commercial and there are 40 of us who downloaded it, this would be 4.0mb * 40 = 160mb of Bandwidth just for that one video. Our Applianceville Discussion Forum takes about 3000mb of Bandwidth a month, or 3.0 Gigabytes. Every time someone clicks on a message in the Pink Index screen of Applianceville to read the post, its downloaded to be viewed and the bandwidth is recorded. This goes for the picture of the day, our animations and other goodies I have posted directly on our server. There only is a certain amount of Bandwidth that web server hosts allow sites to use every month. While 3 Gb or so is well within a reasonable amount of bandwidth, if I posted those commercials directly on the site we would quickly topple the bandwidth meter. If we continually topple the meter, the web hosting company who charges $19.95 a month for our site would quickly shut us down and suggest we get a dedicated server for $250.00 a month, which I cant afford to do.
Here is what I’m proposing to the club. I could set up a second web hosting account for another $19.95 per month at another host site which we could just use for posting the videos, animations and sound files, etc. While I certainly don’t mind footing the $19.95 a month for our ClassicAppliances, and I do it with pleasure and pride to support our appliance community, I really can’t justify doubling that monthly payment, for a second server account.
The reason for this ramble is this: Would some of you guys, who can afford it, be willing to donate a small amount to get a years worth of service ($19.95 * 12 = $240) at another web hosting site? Heck we must have at least 20 active members currently, to split something like that would only be about $12 a piece. Of course there is absolutely no pressure here and you guys can tell me that it’s not worth it and that would be ok. Also there will be some members who cannot afford this and this doesn’t mean that they would be any less of a member and they should not feel pressured. I just wanted to start a dialog about this because there is so much out there that I and others have in their collections that should be shared with the appliance community. Of course even with a separate location for the multimedia, we still need to be careful and not upload too many goodies all at once, because all those eager downloads will get us in trouble at the 2nd site too.
So please think about this and let me and Applianceville know what you think…
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Post# 9268-11/16/2001-15:52 ||| trainguy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Frank Discussion About our Site (Count Me In)
MESSAGE: Robert, I haven't a clue about computers (as you all well know) and what makes them tick. What I do know is that I get WAY more than $12.00 worth of enjoyment out of this club. Although I can't comment on another site, server, location, bandwidth, etc (whatever all that means), I would be glad to donate money. I can't donate knowledge 'cause my brain filled up years ago with useless engineering junk and there was no room left for valuable appliance info.
So whatever you come up with is fine by me. Just let me know where to send the money and keep the great commercials and fun coming. Rich
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Post# 9269-11/16/2001-15:54 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Frank Discussion About our Site
MESSAGE: I probably should be up on this stuff, but I'm not. How difficult would it be to set up your own web hosting server? With asymmetrical DSL speeds, the speed at which users could download stuff would be limited, I suppose, but it might offer you more control over the service.
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Post# 9270-11/16/2001-16:00 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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RE: A Frank Discussion About our Site
MESSAGE: I've looked into that Rich a little bit, but apparently setting up a server runs into the $1000s of dollars.
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Post# 9271-11/16/2001-16:08 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
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RE: A Frank Discussion About our Site (I'm in)
MESSAGE: I'm up for it.
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Post# 9272-11/16/2001-16:13 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD - Kelvinator has no gears? (no turning 'tators)
MESSAGE: Ed, I may have to bring the video that has the ABC-O-Matic wash cycle in it when I come to D. Also has the 58 Unimatic, the Bendix Duomatic, & the WP Combo.
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Post# 9273-11/16/2001-16:15 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
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RE: A Frank Discussion About our Site (DSL)
MESSAGE: Interesting idea - I was thinking about that too. I think there are 2 problems that could come up. The first is that ADSL is VERY A. The uplink is not much faster than a 56K modem - esp. on a bad day. The other issue may be the DNS entries. The Service I use assigns IP address leases, so each time you reconnect the modem (say after one of the frequent SWBell glitches) you get a different IP address. This could make it difficult to address. For another $30/mo they will assign a perm IP address to solve this.
If anyone could figure out the details I may be able to help. I have a PC that's just being used as an answering machine at the moment. Not big, fast, or a lot of disk space - but it might be able to handle a few commercials and my voice mail too.
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Post# 9274-11/16/2001-16:15 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
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RE: POD - Kelvinator has no gears? (no turning 'tators)
MESSAGE: Ed, in the video, Robert lets it agitate empty of clothes & water just so we can see the concentric pattern.
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Post# 9275-11/16/2001-16:26 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Frank Discussion About our Site (Count me in too)
MESSAGE: Robert, I think I can cough up the $12. I hope I can wait a week or two but it will come, I promise.
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Post# 9276-11/16/2001-17:44 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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RE: A Frank Discussion About our Site (DSL)
MESSAGE: Interesting thoughts Ed. But for $30 more just to have a steady IP address, that's a lot more than $19.99 a month. There is another issue too, that is occassionally web servers (just like computers) get locked up. They simply need to be re-booted and if I'm at work, or better yet away for the week, the whole service could be down for quite a while.
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Post# 9277-11/16/2001-17:45 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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RE: A Frank Discussion About our Site (Count me in too)
MESSAGE: Don't worry about it Bob, there is no rush and we're not sure this is the route to go yet. I just wanted to open up a disscussion with the group about this.
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Post# 9278-11/16/2001-17:48 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Frank Discussion About our Site (count me in)
MESSAGE: The videos are precious to me. I don't own an old appliance and I've never been around them so the videos are all I have.
Where do I send?
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Post# 9279-11/16/2001-17:48 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
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RE: A Frank Discussion About our Site (DSL)
MESSAGE: Agreed - the simple second site is probably more workable. I'm still in.
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Post# 9280-11/16/2001-17:50 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Frank Discussion About our Site (DynDNS & home server)
MESSAGE: You could try DynDNS.org if you want to map a static hostname to a dynamic IP address.
To setup a server, all you need is a pc with a good hd and either Winnt or 2000 running IIS. Windows 2000 has a built-in streaming Windows Media server.
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Post# 9281-11/16/2001-18:06 ||| tucker (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Frank Discussion About our Site
MESSAGE: I'd love to donate robert. You've done a great job and you shouldn't have to fork out your own cash. If you send me your address I'll send you a check. Did we agree on $12 a person?
My email addy is: oldnumbr97@yahoo.com
~Steven
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Post# 9282-11/16/2001-18:10 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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RE: A Frank Discussion About our Site (DynDNS & home server)
MESSAGE: Thanks Jason, those are great ideas, but personally I cannot use my computer as a server for a number of reasons, especially since I'm not the only one who uses it. We would need to buy a seperate computer for all that and that of course is $$$$, not to mention the fact the WindowsNT or Windows2000 is not cheap to buy either, plus an upgrade of a DSL line. The DSL line I have currently is the "budget" line and it turns off every two hours, you simply need to re-log in to continue working.
Of course if you guys are willing to do that that would be fine, but we would need FTP access to be able to upload the videos and files. Just seems like a lot of trouble to me, but just like everyone else, this is all a learning process.
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Post# 9283-11/16/2001-18:11 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
Gettin' Friggy wit' it
MESSAGE: It's friday night and it's another Frigmore party. The music for this evening will be My Generation: The Best of The Who and the pizza will be Dominoes pepperoni with cheesybread and of course, plenty Coca-cola.
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Post# 9284-11/16/2001-18:13 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
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RE: A Frank Discussion About our Site
MESSAGE: Thanks Steven, lets just talk about this for a few days, then we'll figure out the logistics if enough people agree.
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Post# 9285-11/16/2001-18:15 ||| rapidry1000 (San Francisco)
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RE: A Frank Discussion About our Site (another web hosting site)
MESSAGE: Robert
Let me know if you will need a contribution. Why not make the amount based on the member's ability to pay with a minimum of five dollars which seems resonable considering the amount of enjoyment the members benefit from this site.
James
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Post# 9286-11/16/2001-18:57 ||| golittlesport (California)
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RE: A Frank Discussion About our Site
MESSAGE: where do I send the check?
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Post# 9287-11/16/2001-19:29 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Where Do I Find The Estate Sale???
MESSAGE: Since so many people ask me about how we find these estate sales, I scanned a copy of today's Estate Sale section of the Minneapolis Star-Tribine Classified section for listing this weekends sales. I've placed a black box around the must go sales for tomorrow. These must go sales are located in older city and first ring suburban locations. There are more sales on the St. Paul side too, so I always buy both Newspapers to make sure we have the entire city covered. Here is what up on the Minneapolis side for tomorrow...
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/miscbrands00/vwp?.dir=/quick+share&.dnm=StarTrib.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 9288-11/16/2001-19:32 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Frank Discussion About our Site
MESSAGE: Finally! A fund raising drive - you should have done this months ago! A small price to pay for the fun, friendship and knowlege that we members share, mostly owed to your dedication and hard work. I consider it an honor to help out with the "real" expenses as I'm not able to contribute any computer knowlege to this endeavor.
Thank you for everything - Greg
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Post# 9289-11/16/2001-19:40 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Frank Discussion About our Site
MESSAGE: There is another possibility, which you may have considered. And that is that bad word, advertising. Actually I'd rather not see you go that route, as I find web ads very annoying (unless of course they were ads for vintage appliances!) but that is how a lot of web sites defray their costs, or at least that's how it appears. Although it also appears that advertising funds for web sites has dried up a lot in the last year. And then, I'm one of those spoilers who runs a program called "Adsoff" that blocks much of the advertising ;-).
I sympathize with your DSL situation. I guess I'm lucky that my service does not cut off every 2 hours. There doesn't seem to be any time limit. It's $49/month, though. For more $$$, I could get more IP addresses, and higher speeds. I have thought of setting up my own web service from time to time, but I'd need to do quite a bit of study first, and then there are the maintenance and other costs you mentioned.
There is another possibility... Most of us have Yahoo web pages. That stuff is free. Why not distribute the video files amongst us? You can link to the various videos via different member's Yahoo web sites. Nobody would have more than one video clip per site. That way the load might be spread out and the Yahoo download police kept at bay.
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Post# 9290-11/16/2001-19:41 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Where Do I Find The Estate Sale???
MESSAGE: That reminds me... I need to check out today's papers!
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Post# 9291-11/16/2001-19:52 ||| trainguy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
RE: Where Do I Find The Estate Sale???
MESSAGE: Best of luck on your estate sales trek tomorrow.
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Post# 9292-11/16/2001-19:58 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Where Do I Find The Estate Sale???
MESSAGE: Ten! There are five here tomorrow - they usually drop off here during the holidays, so I'm hoping for a good sale day! Good luck tomorrow - G
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Post# 9293-11/16/2001-20:06 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Here we go again (rain) (storms vs tornados)
MESSAGE: SO true - having grown up in the east, never had any tornado experience. Then I started traveling for business and ultimately was caught in two earthquakes. While mild, it was very unsettling nonetheless. That was followed by an experience with a tornado in Tulsa and one near Waco. Very frightening, yet mesmerising at the same time..............
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Post# 9294-11/16/2001-20:16 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Frank Discussion About our Site (DSL)
MESSAGE: You can count me in also. I will never be an engineer nor will I have the time to rebuild a vintage appliance, but I have learned a great deal from this site and you guys!!
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Post# 9295-11/16/2001-20:19 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Where Do I Find The Estate Sale???
MESSAGE: Robert - that is quite an array of sales, many more than are happening here.............
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Post# 9296-11/16/2001-20:47 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD - Kelvinator has no gears? (no turning 'tators)
MESSAGE: Here's a link to the ABC video clip. The video is kinda jerky due to the frame rate, and the splashing does obscure the action to some degree, but I think one can get the gist of the situation.
Take a closer look at the cutaway diagram. The main drive shaft rotates, as does the crank, but the crank slips freely inside the agitator, so that the agitator follows the crank around on its little offset/eccentric, but does not actually rotate.
LINK: http://users.wcnet.net/dadoes/minne/friday/video/060_abc.mpg
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Post# 9297-11/16/2001-22:11 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Frank Discussion About our Site (Count me in too!!)
MESSAGE: I agree with you completely Greg, I will be happy to pay my share of the cost. However Robert, I think we should collect enough to cover both accounts. Most clubs have dues, and I think it is time for us to do the same.There is no reason that you should have to take on all the expense. I know how much I enjoy this club and the knowledge I have gained. A bargin I would say! Just let me know!!
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Post# 9298-11/16/2001-22:13 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Frank Discussion About our Site (New Update)
MESSAGE: Robert keep me posted, I would be willing to contribute
Peter
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Post# 9299-11/16/2001-22:41 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Frank Discussion About our Site
MESSAGE: Hi Rich thanks for the ideas. Advertising --- in the words of my mother, FEH! That wouldn't be very much fun, of course unless its the advertisements were from GM Frigidaire, Westinghouse (and not the White version) or Duz.
My DSL is only $39 total, but that means I get cut off every two hours. Its really not a big deal though, I just reconnect, otherwise it would be $49 a month.
As for your yahoo idea, that's what we've been doing all along. I've been setting up lots of free Yahoo Briefcase accounts, one whole account for each one of those videos, and each one gets closed down pretty quickly after I announce that a new video is available and the rush of downloads come through.
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Post# 9300-11/16/2001-22:44 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Frank Discussion About our Site (Count me in too!!)
MESSAGE: We'll thanks Terry and everyone. I don't think we need to go overboard, I was just thinking about contributions to help us grow a little bit and give us more fun stuff to share. As for the base club account, that's my contribution to the Applianceville.
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Post# 9301-11/16/2001-23:32 ||| Lenny (Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Frank Discussion About our Site (Absolutely Robert!)
MESSAGE: Absolutely Robert, you can count me in also should you decide to go with a fee. As others have also mentioned we all get a lot of enjoyment from this site and your majestic efforts. Just keep me informed of the fee and where to send it and its mailed! I thoroughly enjoy this most educating site and will be happy to contribute to its longevity!
Lenny
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Post# 9302-11/16/2001-23:36 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Frank Discussion About our Site (Count Me In)
MESSAGE: Robert, what Trainguy said goes double for me except that it's not engineering junk that filled up my brain. I can afford to underwrite some service. Be worth a hell of a lot more than PBS or Adultcheck, whatever that is :-) TT
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Post# 9303-11/16/2001-23:50 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Frank Discussion About our Site (base club account)
MESSAGE: Robert, I'm sorry to be contrary, but I disagree. Your contribution is ALREDDY being webmaster. I agree with others, we should support the base club account too. You've done all the coding and that's more than your fiar share.
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Post# 9304-11/16/2001-00:05 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Frank Discussion About our Site (base club account)
MESSAGE: We'll thanks for the offer guys, this club is the greatest! But what I'm talking about is definately not a fee and its only meant as a contribution to support some extra storage and bandwidth space. So lets just stick with that.
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Post# 9305-11/16/2001-00:47 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Here we go again (rain) (storms vs tornados)
MESSAGE: Speaking of quakes, has the "It's the Cheese" TV commercials been airing outside of California? The latest one has some cows out standing in a field. Then a moderate earthquake strikes, and they are all digging it, humming, mooing, voices curdled by the vibrations, calling it a free foot massage, etc... Then when it stops, one complains, "They never last long enough". LOL. It's the cheese!
I've been in a few hurricanes in my youth (southern Connecticut), those are exciting as well. Never seen a tornado. Seen some pretty spectacular late-summer thunder and lightning displays in southern Arizona.
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Post# 9306-11/17/2001-03:21 ||| JasonL (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
POD
MESSAGE: My wonderful new FriGeMore is here... guess what came inside? Tide HE.
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Post# 9307-11/17/2001-08:26 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT:
Club Donation
MESSAGE: Hi Robert,
Even though Im new to the group, I am awestruck by the members, their machines, and your wonderful work with the group. I would be glad to contribute to enhance the group and this web page. Please count me in! P.S About a month ago I picked up a 1959 Dexter Automatic, very similar to your Philco (AutoMagic) Only the top and controls being different. I dont have it working yet, but its almost MINT! I will have to send you a pic of it. Its FABULOUS!
Jimmy (FilterFlo)
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Post# 9308-11/17/2001-08:31 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Club Donation
MESSAGE: Wow, that machine sounds really neat Jimmy! I would love to see it, and MINT no less! Do you have a digital camera, if so please post some pictures of it for the club. You can use Yahoo Photos for an easy and free way to share your collection. If you need help with all that, just ask :)
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Post# 9309-11/17/2001-08:38 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Here we go again (rain) (storms vs tornados)
MESSAGE: One of my most favorite things about living in Minnesota is that with the exception of Hurricanes, we get every kind of weather phenomena known from extreme thunderstorms and tornado's to huge blizzards and wind storms. The tornado sirens only went off once, I believe, this summer, but usually we hear them two to three times a summer. I'm a big weather watcher, always have been. The seasonal changes here are some of the most extreme seen in the world and its like living in four different cities.
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Post# 9310-11/17/2001-09:14 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
POD
MESSAGE: Ok, maybe I've watched one to many slasher flicks, but I've seen the look on that installers face before. I think that poor woman is about to be sudsed to death and is calling 911 - but the phone cord's been cut. Her only hope to to quickly turn the machine to spin. It will grab his arm and yank it off. Blood will spew from the open wound as he stumbles for the door. He's gone - but is he dead?
Or maybe he just has indigestion.
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Post# 9311-11/17/2001-10:00 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD
MESSAGE: Ha! If her only hope is getting that machine to spin--she's dead!
That's a Maytag AMP style washer, the spinning isn't great to begin with and takes quite a bit of time (in emergency, life threatening situations it would seem forever) to ramp up to full speed.
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Post# 9312-11/17/2001-10:04 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Club Donation
MESSAGE: You must get your camera snapping and get some pics up on the web for us to see some of the treasures you have hiding. A Dexter Automatic!
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Post# 9313-11/17/2001-10:07 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD
MESSAGE: Perhaps an ad campaign that Frigidaire should have considered. Not only spins your clothes drier - but could SAVE YOUR LIFE!
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Post# 9314-11/17/2001-10:08 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD
MESSAGE: I have never seen that large a box of any detergent packed in a washer and I have been a dedicated new washer examiner since the early 50s when I had to be held up to see inside. Maybe that particular Maytag Service man was noted for packing a larger than average box? Could that explain the look on her face?
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Post# 9315-11/17/2001-10:51 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Box sizes)
MESSAGE: Well, she should hold back her excitement. It's not the size of the package that counts - and you never know how much there is until you open the box. I've always been confused about box size names from the past. The "giant" size is hardly enough for a decent load. "King" size was average. Now they just stamp the weight - "1 lb, 3 oz" -- but I'm beginning to suspect those are AOL ounces.
But size doesn't matter.
Well, back to laundry - I've got to go wash a load of underwear (printed with "SUPER GIGANTIC SIZE (some settling may have occured during shipping")).
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Post# 9316-11/17/2001-14:29 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Box sizes)
MESSAGE: Now I'm getting the vapors!!! Someone get the smelling salts before the Tide superside package takes me over the edge!!!
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Post# 9317-11/17/2001-16:06 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
Quiet
MESSAGE: It's quiet in here. People must be estate saleing. There's NOTHING here. I hope to see some cool pics.
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Post# 9318-11/17/2001-18:14 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Here we go again (rain) (storms vs tornados)
MESSAGE: Rich - that commercial has definitely not aired here!!
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Post# 9319-11/17/2001-18:25 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD
MESSAGE: Jason - sounds like you could be in a 50's commercial. Kind of like today's POD.............
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Post# 9320-11/17/2001-18:54 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD
MESSAGE: Perhaps that explains the look on her face....... I know it explains the look on mine!!!
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Post# 9321-11/17/2001-19:11 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD
MESSAGE: Well, the side of the washer kinda obscures the other package as far as I'm able to see. However, he does look like a very nice Daddy!!!!!! I've got a similar expression on my face as she does. (Slap me for this one)--ET (ex. thick) phone home LOL.
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Post# 9322-11/17/2001-19:38 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Box sizes)
MESSAGE: Huh??? I would hope that the giant size was enough for one load - how much detergent do you use for one load, anyway? (Hee, Hee). While I believe the detergents of the past had their fair share of fillers (I guess so the boxes would look bigger and give an impression of "value"), the "giant size" generally weighed in at 3lbs., 1oz.; the "king size" was 5lbs., 4oz; the "family size" was 10 lbs., 11 oz. The exceptions to that were Ivory Snow which, volume wise came in similarly sized boxes, weighed less. DOn't remember how much giant and king sizes weighed, but I am sure they were somewhere around 2lbs.3oz., and 4lbs.8 oz., respectively. Also, Duz Soap's giant size and king size actually weighed slightly more than the 3/1 and 5/4 of the detergents. Other exceptions included any detergents with "premiums" inside (Premium Duz (dinnerware), Duz (glasses and later flatware), Silver Dust (glasses and later dishcloths), Breeze (towels), and Bonus(towels). Again, the boxes were the same size as the regular detergents, but they contained less product. Finally, the concentrated products came in "Jumbo Size"( 9lbs.13oz) and "Home Laundry Size (I think 20 lbs). It was all so confusing.................. but detergents were so much more fun then!!!!!!! What graphics, what colors!!!!!
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Post# 9323-11/17/2001-19:48 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Box sizes)
MESSAGE: And I noticed that P&G used the same woman on Tide, Cheer and Oxydol (and possibly Duz soap) boxes. All they did was change the hair color slightly. But they all had a color that bordered on "apricot"............. And of course the Duz graphics were red and white, so you couldn't really tell the hair color but the basic style was unmistakeable.......
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Post# 9324-11/17/2001-20:36 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Here we go again (rain) (California Quake Cows)
MESSAGE: Well, Angus, that's a pity, because it really is hilarious and I think you'd enjoy it. Other commericals in the series feature a couple of bulls trying to impress cows passing by, and flubbing their come-ons, or getting the cold shoulder (or should one say the cold hindquarter?). Earlier commericals featured a family from Wisconsin in a sedan ("oh, you betcha"), being stopped at the border agricultural inspection station. They are trying to hide the fact that the only reason why they are coming to California is for the cheese. These commericals are probably not shown outside California because of fears that other states' dairy boards would retaliate.
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Post# 9325-11/17/2001-20:39 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Here we go again (rain) (California Quake Cows)
MESSAGE: Haven't seen any of those - they do sound great. Oh, well...............
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Post# 9326-11/17/2001-20:42 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Quiet
MESSAGE: Well Jason, I did go out late last night and got copies of two local Friday newspapers. Neither one had any special estate sale sections - instead there were about two or three estate sale ads hidden amongst the garage sale listings. None were very close to here, and this was just a dry run for me. I spent the day working on the attic ventilation and on the U-joints on the truck. The u-joint took much longer than I anticipated (it's really a tight fit). The new u-joint got rid of a low frequency vibration at highway speeds, but replaced it with a ticking noise at low speeds. I imagine the Calypso has a similar part.
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Post# 9327-11/17/2001-20:44 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Here we go again (rain) (California Quake Cows)
MESSAGE: Well, if I had a way to digitize video I'd upload a copy of one of the commercials to my Yahoo page. Hmmm. Maybe the California Dairy Board has something... I'll check their web site (if they have one)...
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Post# 9328-11/17/2001-20:49 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Here we go again (rain) (California Quake Cows)
MESSAGE: Hey, Angus, you're in luck. The Califorina Dairy Board has a web site and they have the commericals on line!!!
LINK: http://www.calif-dairy.com/default.cfm?start=1
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Post# 9329-11/17/2001-21:27 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Box sizes)
MESSAGE: Anthony, I remember buying the 9lb 13oz boxes of Dash and our neighbor with the early 60s WH slant front pair with oval windows used to buy the 20 lb home laundry size Dash. Their basement always smelled so good from the Dash
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Post# 9330-11/17/2001-22:33 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Box sizes)
MESSAGE: It smelled so good that it made you dash out and buy more before you were caught westing in da house too much.
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Post# 9331-11/17/2001-00:50 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Here we go again (rain) (California Quake Cows)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the link to that commerical Rich, it was super cute!
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Post# 9332-11/17/2001-00:52 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Here we go again (rain) (California Quake Cows)
MESSAGE: Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. The one about the "new girl in town" is pretty amusing also! I especially like the Wisconsin accent, dontcha know.
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Post# 9333-11/17/2001-00:53 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: We'll we saw some great things again today at the sales. Lots of cool appliances and the like. At one sale, I finally found a 16mm Film/Sound projector as I had been looking for one for a while. It was only $20, usually they go for a lot more than that. It works perfectly too, so now I can start collecting those appliance and detergent commercials right on 16mm and transfer them to the web.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/estatesale6/lst?&.dir=/Estate+Sale+Saturday+Nov+17+2001&.src=ph&.begin=9999&.view=t&.order=&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/estatesale6/lst%3f%26.dir=/Estate%2bSale%2bSaturday%2bNov%2b17%2b2001%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 9334-11/17/2001-01:23 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Good on the projector, but where's the photo of it?
Cool "mint" stove. What brand was it?
Also, the second Westy fridge, with the defrost countdown timer, looked nice.
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Post# 9335-11/18/2001-02:08 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Here we go again (rain) (California Quake Cows)
MESSAGE: Thanks for sharing the link Rich, I love the footmassage commercial!!
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Post# 9336-11/18/2001-02:11 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Robert, looks like you guys had a wonderful day, the weather looks much better than the drizzly weather overhere. Quite an awsome dryer, that turquoise Kenmore! We went to a flee market today, but nothing there, we didn't buy a thing.
Louis
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Post# 9337-11/18/2001-02:18 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Robert, boy that poor 58 maytag ridden hard. Think of the poor clothes that were stuck therre on the bottom. And the 64 LK dryer. I'm speculating that the interior of that drum was originally a spackled black & white coating, but I could be wrong, could be an earlier model with that spackling. But it's very similar to a mystery LK dryer some friends had when they moved here from Kentucky in 1989. It was in a laundry closet with lots of junk and I never really could get a clear view of the whole control panel. Washrfreak, the 1966 LK did do away with the "scrubber" cap. Also, now don't get excited here, but that agitator "spanked" clothes clean with its non-skirted agitator fins at the bottom. And I LOVE the Turq WP dryer. What year was that? 1963? I want it just simply because it's 2-speed & has the window and I love the color. And the amazing 62 Westy fridge. I have some friends with the exact same Thermadore ovens here, still in use, but they're stacked independtly on top of each other and in stainless steel. They still have the matching Thermadore stainless 6-burner electric range top too. I drool everytime I go in that kitchen. And, I've gotten to use those ovens and cooktop several times. (Here come the vapors again). I particularly love the little 4" burner on that Thermadore.
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Post# 9338-11/18/2001-09:04 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Hi Rich, here's a closeup of the new projector. I already have a 16mm Ivory Snow commercial and a Ivory Soap commercial which played beautifully! Now I just need to get a special transfer device to transfer them to video so they can be digitized. I think that is soooo cool to take 1930s technology and transfer it right into to 2000s technology.
It would be fun to find some of the those silly 1950s high school films on "sex ed".
I don't remember what brand the stove was and yes you are correct that westy fridge was MINT. As a matter of fact everything in that house was just spotless.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/estatesale6/vwp?.dir=/Estate+Sale+Saturday+Nov+17+2001&.dnm=1953+BellHowell+16mm+Proj.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 9339-11/18/2001-09:05 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Hi Louis nice to see you. Are you still having problems with the net over in Holland?
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Post# 9340-11/18/2001-09:08 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Hi Bob, I think the turquoise dryer was a '65. The '64 Lady Kenmore drum was not speckeled to begin with, that dryer was just used really hard. They probably raised a family with that washer and dryer.
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Post# 9341-11/18/2001-09:20 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT:
RE: Club Donation (I would be happy to support with monetary)
MESSAGE: This site has been a daily treat for me with all the wonderful things this site has. I find great peace to see washers in action that I have only lusted to see. The conversations on the boared and shared knowledge is far worth more than a few drinks in a bar each month.
Count me in from SC
Uni cheers to you for taking on such a massive project
Philippe
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Post# 9342-11/18/2001-09:43 ||| calypso bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
estate sale
MESSAGE: Uni, the old appliances you came across look great. I don't know if you bought any of them but I would have been all
over the 66LK and the Maytag. I don't know if the Maytag
would be worth restoring though with the drum the way it is.
The Whirpool dryer with the window was neat also. I think I will start looking for estate sales around here,you never know what you might find. Happy Estate Saleing.
Good luck
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Post# 9343-11/18/2001-14:32 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Well thanks for the info Robert. SOME day I will be able to unravel the mystery of that dryer's vintage. Yes, the control panel was similar, but it seemed to have a smaller drum capacity than what was in the dryer you saw yesterday. Also, when I'm referring to "spackle", I mean the porcelain or other finnish that was found in ovens in the 40s & 50s that was basically black with little white specs. It always killed me their laundry closet was so cluttered that I couldn't get a good look at that dryer. The washer was in a better, more lighted position, a dull 400 from the 60s. Normal & Delicate cycles and 3 temps. No water level. The filter wasn't even cascading, it was just kinda there, but I at least did enjoy the filter and the fond memories it conjured up of Kenmore's glory days. It also had a gold straight vane agitator.
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Post# 9344-11/18/2001-14:39 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Look on her (our faces))
MESSAGE: Here's how I see it. Mrs. Smith sees the size of the box and Duz Mr. Maytag, the Tide is so overwhelming of the experience, that she Dashes off with Mr. Maytag's Services and for ever after, life is a Breeze because she's such a dish.
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Post# 9345-11/18/2001-14:41 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Look on her (our faces))
MESSAGE: And, Mrs. Smith never throws in the towel. She just "uses" them.
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Post# 9346-11/18/2001-14:59 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Thanks for that photo of the projector. I think you definitely scored on that one! How much did you say, again? $25? ! Anyway, it's a beauty, and brings back memories of high school movies in the classroom, and fiddling with worn out film advance mechanisms. Hope you can find a film to digital converter. The Ivory Snow commercials sound intriguing. I wonder if they would feature Marilyn Chambers in a laundry room with a green door :-)
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Post# 9347-11/18/2001-14:59 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Look on her (our faces))
MESSAGE: *groan*
;-)
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Post# 9348-11/18/2001-15:19 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Fast Detergent)
MESSAGE: Well, another boring appliance sale day here. Saw nothing older than a '75 Kenmore set. I did find a bottle of All liquid detergent and a bottle of the first generation Ultra Downy that still had the old style cap and a cute little bottle. The really vintage detergent score was an open box of Fast by Tidy House Brands of Omaha. On the back, there is a listing by brand name of the agitator, wringer and tumbler washers - kinda fun...
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/wshrboy/vwp?.dir=/Thrifting+Finds+11-12-01&.src=ph&.dnm=Fast+++Detergent.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/wshrboy/lst%3f%26.dir=/Thrifting%2bFinds%2b11-12-01%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 9349-11/18/2001-17:43 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Tumbler Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Why does it list Frigidaire as a tumbler washer? Because of the action?
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Post# 9350-11/18/2001-17:46 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (But all was not Fab)
MESSAGE: She dumped Mr. Maytag because she wanted a Fresh Start. That's when she ran off with Mr. Clean because he had a bigger Arm & uhh.. Hammer.
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Post# 9351-11/18/2001-19:02 ||| syndets2000 (Nanjemoy, Md)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Frank Discussion About our Site
MESSAGE: Hi Robert, I like the idea - I am willing to donate something to the club !
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Post# 9352-11/18/2001-19:53 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Thank you, Robert for a picture showing what I was trying to explain about old Maytags' was action. The Gyrator and the narrow tub did not promote turnover. Things were just dragged back and forth, especially large loads. Over time, the white top coat of porcelain could be literally rubbed away, often on the tub wall oposite the high fins, but sometimes like this one. You had a pretty neat day. I found one of those Kenmore records last weekend. Tom
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Post# 9353-11/18/2001-19:55 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Great Speckled Dryer Drum)
MESSAGE: There was a lady Kenmore dryer with a porcelain drum. I saw one in a thrift store with John once. I think he said it was only offered for a year or so in the late 50s.
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Post# 9354-11/18/2001-20:29 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Louis:
No.... That was actually an early-to-mid 1960's RCA/Whirlpool dryer. The dryer is awesome though. The washer that it is mated with is also one of my dream machines. Too bad it looked like it was in pretty bad shape.
--Charles--
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Post# 9355-11/18/2001-20:39 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Box sizes)
MESSAGE: Well, Robert that was a lot of "pun"
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Post# 9356-11/18/2001-20:41 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Box sizes)
MESSAGE: Quite true, TT. My mother was also a Dash user in the early days, although she limited herself to the Jumbo Size box. It did have a nice fresh and clean fragrance. Ultimately, she gave it all up for Blue Cheer's Blue Magic Whiteners...............
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Post# 9357-11/18/2001-20:42 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Here we go again (rain) (California Quake Cows)
MESSAGE: Delightful - I got a real chuckle out of it. Kind of makes me want to relocate..................
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Post# 9358-11/18/2001-20:48 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Great pics, Robert. Question though - the cute little turquoise number has an emblem on it's front which looks like it says "2 Speed". How many dryers had more than one speed? I have never seen a multi speed dryer before...........
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Post# 9359-11/18/2001-20:51 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Would those sex ed movies be the ones where the girls and boys were sent to separate gyms with cardboard pasted over the windows and doors so underclassmen couldn't get in and be corrupted????? I nearly peed myself when our gym teacher said "genitals" and blushed so red I thought he would erupt into flames.........actually he did some years later. Figuratively, of course................
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Post# 9360-11/18/2001-20:53 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: estate sale
MESSAGE: I don't know about Boston, but the lower Fairfield County CT area is kind of lacking in the great old appliances and vintage detergents Robert finds in Minneapolis. May have a lot to do with our very damp climate that wreaks havoc with poowdered detergents and rusts appliances..............
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Post# 9361-11/18/2001-21:02 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Tumbler Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: I have no idea what the thinking (or lack of) behind that listing. Omaha was not much of a Frigidaire town, maybe they were just guessing! ;-0
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Post# 9362-11/18/2001-21:03 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (But all was not Fab)
MESSAGE: Well, it was a BOLD move, but all her FAB friends were there to CHEER her on so Mr. Maytag could WISK her away like the spring BREEZE and impress her with his raw, COLD POWER. OK, I think I have even sickened myself with this..................
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Post# 9363-11/18/2001-21:40 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (maybe)
MESSAGE: Maybe it was prophecy for the 90s Frigidaire FLs.
(Insert Twilight Zone music)
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Post# 9364-11/18/2001-21:49 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (and to make things worse)
MESSAGE: She had all to GAIN after returning to Mr. Maytag, for the Tide HE gave her was much more SNOWY than Mr. Clean could ever give her.
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Post# 9365-11/18/2001-22:24 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Whirlpool Multi-Speed Dryers)
MESSAGE: The "2-Speed" referred to by the turquoise Whirlpool doesn't refer to tumbling speed, but rather to the drying speed. The speeds were typically designated "Super" (or perhaps "Normal") and "Gentle." The belt-driven blower had a two-speed pulley. "Gentle" repositioned the blower belt for a reduced airflow rate, and may also have throttled the heating element (or gas burner) to a lower output, thus providing a more gentle drying action for delicate fabrics.
When Whirlpool switched to the direct-drive blower, I assume a damper door of some sort was used in the exhaust system to reduce the air flow rate. My paternal grandparents had a Whirlpool Supreme with two speed drying, and I'm pretty sure it had a direct-drive blower because the exhaust outlet was at the bottom center. I could be wrong, but the belt-drive exhaust outlet was always higher up on the back.
Whirlpool did offer multiple TUMBLE speeds on their TOL dryers for a while. Three speeds at first, then two, then they did away with the feature.
Tom can provide corrections and more details, I'm sure. 8-)
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Post# 9366-11/18/2001-22:29 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (and to make things worse)
MESSAGE: Although she was frigid, dare she wonder what lay hidden in the recesses of Mr. Maytag's box?
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Post# 9367-11/19/2001-03:13 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
Norge PotD
MESSAGE: Love it! Rather similar to the green Kelvinator ("The Measure of Quality").
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Post# 9368-11/19/2001-05:22 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Frank Discussion About our Site
MESSAGE: Count me in for the donation.
SD
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Post# 9369-11/19/2001-05:30 ||| Scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT:
F&P is in
MESSAGE: I finally put that dishdrawer in. It was a pain in the !@#$% to put in. The hubby still thinks i'm nuts for putting it in. But it has more bottons to push and more drama than that boring ol' KA. Meanwhile hes out buying up every Swarovski christmas ornament on ebay.
SD
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Post# 9370-11/19/2001-05:54 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: F&P is in
MESSAGE: Perhaps you could compromise and decorate your Christmas tree (if you erect one) with vintage detergent boxes and some of those measuring cups that came in certain sizes of Cheer, Tide and Bold......................
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Post# 9371-11/19/2001-05:58 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Norge PotD
MESSAGE: Outstanding pic - I recall that Aunt Josie who was cursed when it came to appliances had a predecessor to that machine - the Norge 14. No dispensers and the lint filter rode atop the agitator. Interesting - she went through a Maytag and a GE in somewhere around 6 years total. And her Norge was forever breaking down. Lucky for her the laundromat was only half a block away. Of course part of the problem could have been that my uncle worked in construction as a cement man so every week her machine had 5 pairs of work clothes full of cement, rocks and whatall.................. I think that would do in any machine......
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Post# 9372-11/19/2001-07:37 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
Classified Ad Section
MESSAGE: Very nice Robert! I'll have to go through my parts department and service manuals....
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Post# 9373-11/19/2001-07:47 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: F&P is in
MESSAGE: How is the performance?
Now you can wash all that crystal sparkling clean when the mailman delivers it!
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Post# 9374-11/19/2001-07:50 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Norge PotD
MESSAGE: Is that what the Kelvi ad said? The Measure of Quality?!? Maybe on the low end....
This Norge is a beautiful washer, I always loved those big, slanted control panels but I'm a little skeptical about it's ability to handle linens from four beds and a couple of cribs. Maybe if it's just the pillowcases!
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Post# 9375-11/19/2001-08:51 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Hi Anthony, I believe the two speed Whirlpoo dryer refers to the blower speed, not that I could figure out why anyone one want a slower blower speed, but who knows.
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Post# 9376-11/19/2001-08:52 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Yup, those are the films I'm referring to. That would be really funny to watch in our 21st century.
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Post# 9377-11/19/2001-08:57 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: estate sale
MESSAGE: Anthony, I suspect the damp climate might prevent you from finding a lot of vintage boxes of detergents, but I know there have been a lot of vintage automatic washer finds in Connecticut in the past five years. Donald in New Haven has quite the collection. Also, you might want to set your hunting inland, such as in Hartford or Springfield. If you would really like to find some vintage machines, you should contact some appliance recyclers, I would bet you will have some luck.
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Post# 9378-11/19/2001-08:58 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Tumbler Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Its an obvious error by the advertising editor of that product.
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Post# 9379-11/19/2001-09:08 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Norge PotD (THAT'S MY NORGE!!!!)
MESSAGE: That was the Norge I got 12/23/1964. No greg, it couldn't handle 4 big bed sheets and a couple of crib sheets. It could handle two twin size beds or the sheets from my parents king size bed--nice since the predecessor GE could only handle (8-9 lbs) one sheet and a couple of towels per load from my parents bed or 1 twin bed at a time. No, trivia, the picture shows it running. The button pushed in, cycle 1, was the soak cycle. Dial position was off, or very near past off. if very near past off, it could have been in the position where the "suds return" was supposed to be. But, tht position on our dial was a bit closer to the soak cycle rather than right after the main cycle's off position, which is where the pointer is. Also, in that mode, the spin switch had to be depressed. However, we all know what can be done with that safety switch don't we. It washed well. Had a 4 minute deep rinse. But I HATED the programming of most of the cycle buttons. if anyone wants a rundown, I can give them to you. And, each button number had a corresponding number on the timer for "wash time", however, I never paid attention to that. I set the time for whatever I felt was neccessary, whether longer or shorter for the occassion. It also had a full-width fluorescent light that light up the big cyclops dial--beautiful. The filter tooth that held it in place eventually wore out because the filter would be knocked or bumped if you didn't remove it everytime you loaded/unloaded the machine plus the gravital forces placed on it as the tub pivoted or "bounced" during the spin cycle. The filter suspension (all plastic) module was attached to that bouncing tub ring up on top. Any other questions, please ssk me, I had about 5.5 years of experience with this washer. It was "around until 2/70 or 2/71when the Kenmore 800 arrived, but one time it spent 6 weeks in the shop being rebuilt because I admittedly tormented this washer because I hated it and had no input as to its arrival and because of the programs. I do remember seeing the line brochure before its arrival and would have preferred the m0odel below, but I believe this was the only one with the timed dispensers and that was the main thing mom wanted.
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Post# 9380-11/19/2001-09:14 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Classified Ad Section (Things To Think About)
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg, this is a new feature that I've been working on. I'm also planning on adding a Appliances/Parts Wanted section to show what our dream machines are so we can advertise them to the world.
What I plan on doing is have people post their own ads, then after a couple of months I will go in a delete old ads. I can also ad a sold sticker to a current ad if anyone wants.
The For-Sale ads will be posted newest to oldest, in other words when you post a For-Sale ad your item will go to the top of the list. BUT, for the Machines/Parts wanted ads, the oldest ads will stay on top, placing the newest ones on the bottom. I suspect we will have more visitors in time who are not looking to correspond so much with us in Applianceville, but are looking to sell or buy a vintage appliance or appliance related item. If you guys have ideas or suggestions of how this should all work, now is the time to talk about this since I'm working on writing the code for this.
We are also going to have to talk frankly about a subject that might be kind of touchy and that is what we think the value of these machines are and what are we willing to pay for them. We certainly don't want to make them too expensive for the obvious reasons, but on the other had we need to make it worth their while to even contact us and go through the trouble of moving and selling the machine.
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Post# 9381-11/19/2001-09:15 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: F&P is in
MESSAGE: Scott did you get two dishdrawers or one? I think that is a really neat looking dishwasher. How do you like it?
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Post# 9382-11/19/2001-09:29 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: A Frank Discussion About our Site
MESSAGE: Thanks guys for the outpouring of support for another server to house our videos. I will shop around and let everyone know when and where to send the donations. I know Dadoes works for an ISP so maybe we can work something out through his company. Jetcone has graciously volunteered to charge the monthly payments so we might send our donations directly to him, but we need to figure out all the logistics yet. More to come, probably after Thanksgiving.
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Post# 9383-11/19/2001-10:19 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Box sizes)
MESSAGE: We used Dash and the other low sudsers, even Ajax when we had the WH FL with the side swing door, the later one with the drop down door, and then the Philco Duomatic.
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Post# 9384-11/19/2001-10:43 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Anthony, do you mean he became a flamer or spontaneously combusted? Do you suppose it happened during his first encounter with what caused him to blush at their mere mention in your class? In elementary school, the girls got the movie in the 5th grade. The boys in the 7th. Our one male teacher and the male principal showed us the film during phys ed, with all 3 classes of boys crowded into one classroom and offered to answer questions afterward. We had to share desks. My best friend (WI-56, first Frigidaire dryer ever, pink GE built-ins with roll out DW) and I shared his desk.
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Post# 9385-11/19/2001-10:47 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (But all was not Fab)
MESSAGE: Yeah, please don't carry this fetid waste any further.
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Post# 9386-11/19/2001-10:49 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (and to make things worse)
MESSAGE: If Tide is your term for it, I can see where there would be confusion on dates, whether laundry or otherwise.
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Post# 9387-11/19/2001-10:54 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Whirlpool Multi-Speed Dryers)
MESSAGE: On my gas WP two speed, the burner input was 30K on super and 20K on gentle. Yes, there is a damper in the duct to slow the air stream. Of course, now it has had the burner replaced with the 37K and the blower setting remains at super. Frigidaire made some dryers in the late 60s with 2 tumble speeds so that delicate lingerie would tumble instead of riding the drum.
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Post# 9388-11/19/2001-11:27 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Hello Robert,
I still have problems now and then, but it could also be my computer, I'm not sure. At the moment I don't have the time to really get into this. I'll report about it later.
Louis
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Post# 9389-11/19/2001-11:29 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Silly me, I knew that!! The fingers were just faster than the mind LOL.
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Post# 9390-11/19/2001-11:53 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Something interesting abut the slower blower speed: it prevents lightweight fabrics from clinging to the exhause grill at the back of the drum. It can even prevent sheets from tangling with the lower air flow. It is more fun and faster to use the match all Kenmore with the perforated drum back and a modulating 37K burner. No tangles and a king set dry in 15 minutes.
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Post# 9391-11/19/2001-12:00 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: I prefer a slow blow.
;-)
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Post# 9392-11/19/2001-12:04 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Some enterprising friends of mine in junior high snuck into the auditorium and hid somewhere in the rafters. They caught the entire sex ed presentation to the girls... needless to say, it was all they could talk about for weeks...
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Post# 9393-11/19/2001-12:50 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Tumbler Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: But a fun one - if it was a little later, they may have been thinking of the tumbling teddy bear in the ads.
Have you ever seen Fast detergent before?
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Post# 9394-11/19/2001-12:59 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Ohh you Naughty little boy you. ;^)
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Post# 9395-11/19/2001-12:59 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Tumbler Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: I have never seen Fast detergent Greg before. Very cool box though.
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Post# 9396-11/19/2001-13:06 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: but sometimes you're in a hurry...
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Post# 9397-11/19/2001-13:14 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: You said it, I THOUGHT IT. Rich, you BAD BOY!!!!
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Post# 9398-11/19/2001-13:18 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Yes, the pressure and stress one is under can be enormous!!
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Post# 9399-11/19/2001-14:41 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Of course, I was referring to the "slow blow" or "delayed action" fuses that are recommended for some types of vintage laundry appliances.
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Post# 9400-11/19/2001-15:55 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: . . . Like Unimatics.
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Post# 9401-11/19/2001-15:59 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: F&P is in
MESSAGE: You should put your DishDrawer through a test to see what it can do. A heavily-encrusted casserole dish or something, let it sit a few days, then toss it in with some other items on an appropriate cycle selection. Before and after pictures, please!
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Post# 9402-11/19/2001-16:34 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Yes, I'm certain a Unimatic would benefit from a slow blow fuse.
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Post# 9403-11/19/2001-16:35 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
updated Frigidaire washer line out
MESSAGE: For anyone interested, Frigidaire is coming out with an updated line of laundry appliances. They aren't in the Detroit area yet, but I've got a couple of photos of their top-console front loader from someone who posted a message on the Appliance Forum. The two photos I have show consoles that look sort of like a Maytag console design ripoff. They've also got LEDs indicated the cycles. Definitely an improvement, at least in how the machine looks. If interested, e-mail me and I'll be happy to forward them as an e-mail attachment.
I've got the photos on my computer desktop now, saved as jpegs. Can anyone tell me how to link a jpeg to a post? Perhaps a dumb question, but I haven't tried to do it yet. If we can do it, I'll include the photos on another post.
Ken
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Post# 9404-11/19/2001-16:41 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: That reminds me. Does anyone have photos of a Unimatic or similar machine's innards? I'm particularly interested in the connection(s) between the motor shaft and the agitator. Is it like a crankshaft of a car, with a big end and a little end, and connecting rod? Is there a counter balance? How many bearings on the drive shaft? Are the bearings plain, or roller? How about variable valve timing? Oops, forget that last question, that would be on a Hondamatic.
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Post# 9405-11/19/2001-16:44 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: updated Frigidaire washer line out
MESSAGE: To link a graphic to a post, you first need to make the graphic available on a web server. The easiest way to do that is to open a Yahoo account and upload your graphic to your personal photo area of your Yahoo account, make it public, and then copy/paste the URL to the link box below the Applianceville message creation box.
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Post# 9406-11/19/2001-17:14 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Here is a link to a picture of a Unimatic mechanism from Robert's 1947 - the first Frigidaire washer. The picture after that shows all the parts laid out.
There is also an album with pics of the tearing down process, I'm just not sure where they are.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/multimatic850/vwp?.dir=/Very+First+Frigidaire+Washer+1947&.dnm=The+Unimatic+with+housing+off.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 9407-11/19/2001-18:09 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Thanks for the link. Looks like the whole mechanism is encased and covered with oil and/or grease... can't tell much about the geometry though. Looks like the pump is at the bottom, motor over that, then some sort of gear setup to translate the vertical drive shaft rotation to a horizontal rotation to in turn drive another shaft which in turn carries a crankpin to impart the vertical pulsator motion. I'm just guessing here.
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Post# 9408-11/19/2001-18:16 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
New member of the family
MESSAGE: After changing out the 4-port pump, this girls almost ready to rock! Just need a new self-leveling mechanism, and she's going to be installed as the alpha washer!
-ph
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/vwp?.dir=/1972+Lady+Kenmore&.src=ph&.dnm=72LK.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/lst%3f%26.dir=/1972%2bLady%2bKenmore%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 9409-11/19/2001-19:05 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: New member of the family (BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!!)
MESSAGE: ahh.. Sweet Lady K. My aunts old washer. She's beautiful!
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Post# 9410-11/19/2001-19:14 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Yes, I know that wasn't much, just a tease until I could get the scanner to cooperate with me!
Have a look at this - it should explain a lot more.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/wshrboy/vwp?.dir=/My+Photos&.dnm=unimatic+cutaway.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 9411-11/19/2001-19:37 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: New member of the family
MESSAGE: She's beautiful! And gold!
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Post# 9412-11/19/2001-19:43 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Norge PotD (THAT'S MY NORGE!!!!)
MESSAGE: Well, I guess tormenting the washer is better than tormenting the cat.....................
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Post# 9413-11/19/2001-19:51 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Box sizes)
MESSAGE: Oh, yeah, forgot about Ajax - After about 6 years of Cheer/Rinso Blue/Silver Dust, she moved on to Ajax sometime in 1966. Then when the enzyme craze hit in 1969 or so, she moved on to Punch - "Colgate's knockout detergent" (remember Sheila MacRae???????????? Then back to Cheer until the late 80's when P&G changed the fragrance(BTW, my complaints to P&G about that issue were met with very passive non informative responses - "We understand sir, but we have tested this new fragrance in several markets and it has been extremely well received"............ Hah! Probably by the sensory impaired!!!!!)By that time Surf had been re introduced by Lever, so we went to that..............
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Post# 9414-11/19/2001-19:58 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Oh, TT, is there a difference? I thought most flamers spontaneously combusted anyway. I do believe, cher, that it had everything to do with the initial cause of his blushing episode. Funny thing though, the girls in our little catholic grammar school saw "the movie" in sixth grade. The boys didn't get their "talk" until freshman year in high school...I forgot to mention that our combustible friend also choked during the VD discussion and could not say the wore chancre (SP??). Me, Keith Larson, (Philco Custom Imperial washer with turquoise 1957 GE Dryer)and Bob Bandino (late 60's GE Americana with mini basket) nearly were suspended for our antics. Even my mother, when she was summoned to the high school to retrieve her little delinquent son thought the whole incident was a rip. She had a great time telling Dad about that one................
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Post# 9415-11/19/2001-19:59 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (But all was not Fab)
MESSAGE: OK, thanks for the subtle hint..................
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Post# 9416-11/19/2001-20:01 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday
MESSAGE: Spank, spank, you little rascal.............
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Post# 9417-11/19/2001-20:28 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: New member of the family (Cool!!)
MESSAGE: I love the LK -
Peter
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Post# 9418-11/19/2001-21:25 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Inside the Unimatic Mechanism
MESSAGE: Rich here is a link to see pictures of a Unimatic being restored. Unfortunately I'm only about 1/2 through with this album, but you will get the general idea...
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/frigidaire1140/lst?&.dir=/Unimatic+Transmission+Restoration&.src=ph&.begin=9999&.view=t&.order=&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/frigidaire1140/lst%3f%26.dir=/Unimatic%2bTransmission%2bRestoration%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 9419-11/19/2001-21:37 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT:
RE: New member of the family (Great Job Peter)
MESSAGE: Hi Peter, Looks like you have done a terrific job on the Lady. Thanks for sharing with us. Terry
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Post# 9420-11/19/2001-21:41 ||| devildaddy (Troy NY)
SUBJECT:
The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE
MESSAGE: As mentioned in my last post (9140 - Give me an old Frigidaire over my lousy GE anyday), the GE is again at death's door, this time with its adjustable legs on a banana peel.
A little bit on the history of this "Washer from Hell"...
My ex and I bought this three years ago as we were moving into a new house and wanted new appliances. Since the house came with a GE appliance package, said ex wanted to have ALL GE appliances so that the brand name would match. Just my luck - I was married to a Label Queen. Anyhow, he was out of town one week a little over a year after we bought the washer. I was doing laundry and had to use the can, which is at the other end of the house. After several minutes there, I realized that the washer had been filling all that time. I ran to the laundry room to find that the washer had overflowed and that the water was running down through the floor vent, directly into the furnace. Fortunately it was summer and I didn't have the heat (or central air) on. Needless to say, the furnace was ruined. My ex arrived home that day and reamed me a new asshole, yelling at me that it was all my fault and that I shouldn't be using the washer when he's gone. Wonder why we split up, huh?
I called my insurance company, who sent an adjuster out who wrote me a check for the replacement cost of the furnace minus the $250 deductible. He then asked me if I was going to go after GE for the deductible, and I said, "You bet." He then offered to have my insurer go after GE. Eventually I did get the deductible back, too. After the furnace flooding incident, my ex would stand and watch the machine fill on each cycle to make sure it didn't overflow. This must have sucked for him as he always uses the extra rinse and would have to watch it fill three times. He told me that I should watch it fill when I used it, but I refused. It was my argument that an automatic washer is just that...automatic, and needs no human intervention. He's a real momma's boy - her way of thinking is that if something happened once, then odds are that it will happen again.
Apparently the problem was that the fill switch had malfunctioned. The GE repairmen put in a new switch totally free of charge. Since then, my ex seems to overflow the washer with regularity. I tried to explain to him that he needs to use less soap, but he's such a goddamn know-it-all. Currently there's a yellowish waxy substance on the floor underneath the washer, and a burning rubber smell usually accompanies a wash cycle. On top of that, the last week has witnessed a chugging sound while it's agitating in the wash and rinse cycles. My sweetie Mike (nMaineMan) told me that he believes the transmission is on the way out. And if all that isn't enough, the brake works properly at the end of a spin cycle, but if you lift the lid DURING the cycle, the tub takes at least 30 seconds to stop.
Angus was very helpful in describing what I should do to contact GE (post 9159). Truthfully, if they just replace the washer I'd be happy, even knowing that the new one will probably fail soon. Checking the warranty, the transmission has a 10-year limited warranty "due to defect in materials or workmanship". Question: How do I prove this to GE?
I've thought of another alternative...getting a used commercial washer complete with coin slide. When my ex sees that he'd have to pay ME to use MY washer, maybe he'll finally pack up and leave. A story for another posting board...
-Charlie
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Post# 9421-11/19/2001-21:48 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: New member of the family
MESSAGE: The Lady Kenmore looks great Peter. She's going to be the alpha washer eh? How long will she have her place in the sun????
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Post# 9422-11/19/2001-22:55 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inside the Unimatic Mechanism
MESSAGE: Thanks, those are great photos. I'm still mystified as to how the rotation around a vertical axis is translated into the reciprocating motion. I wonder if there is any place within driving distance where I can view an actual assembly.
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Post# 9423-11/19/2001-22:56 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE
MESSAGE: Charlie, the trannys on these fail at about 3-4 years. How do you prove to Ge. Do you still have your sales receipt? I wouldn't hassle with another GE. That's me personally. I'd just get Mike to take youu shoppping for a new washer.
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Post# 9424-11/19/2001-23:12 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: updated Frigidaire washer line out
MESSAGE: Ken, I saw them in our Sunday's best buy aed. Thought the same thing, they look like Maytags.
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Post# 9425-11/19/2001-23:18 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: New member of the family
MESSAGE: Peter, she's beautiful. Does alpha washer mean your primary washer now?
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Post# 9426-11/19/2001-23:25 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: New member of the family
MESSAGE: I think that means all the other washers are her beatches now. :-)
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Post# 9427-11/19/2001-23:34 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE
MESSAGE: I think we have the same ex. Did he explain (in detail) the correct method of pouring detergent into the washing machine?
My advice - keep the washer, trade in the ex.
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Post# 9428-11/19/2001-00:05 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: New member of the family
MESSAGE: A place in the sun may fade her to Sunny Yellow!
If it works, I'll scoot all 3 of my goldies outside and give it a try!
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Post# 9429-11/19/2001-00:06 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: updated Frigidaire washer line out
MESSAGE: They've been here for several weeks now - looks exciting on the outside, but still the same on the inside.
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Post# 9430-11/19/2001-00:11 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE
MESSAGE: My friend Walter who picks up appliances for recycling says he's been seeing more and more of those GE/Hotpoint abominations lately in the scrap piles. None of the shops bother putting any money or work into them as they won't sell them used. Warranty work kills them on the prices - GE is certainly building a horrible reputation with these machines.
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Post# 9431-11/19/2001-00:23 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inside the Unimatic Mechanism
MESSAGE: Here they are - thanks Robert. This was such a great learing experience, you really gain a great deal of respect for the engineering and sheer genius that went into this mechanism when you take it apart.
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Post# 9432-11/19/2001-00:27 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE
MESSAGE: The thing that gets me about GE is that it's the darling of Wall Street and corporate efficiency experts. I just don't get it. If their internal business processes are so good, why are they churning out such inferior product?
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Post# 9433-11/19/2001-00:41 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE
MESSAGE: It's hard to believe that the only thing that matters in judging a stock is the bottom line, but we see evidence of it every day. If they gain a rep. for inferior products and lose a share of their market with every washer/appliance sold, how can they exist? Maybe this explains some of the AmanaGE machines that have been spotted and GE's use of Electrolux/Frigidaire f/l washers and low-end dryers - source them out cheaper than they can engineer and build them and keep the bottom line higher.
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Post# 9434-11/19/2001-00:56 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE
MESSAGE: Well, part of it may be that GE is such a huge corporation, that they can throw marketing and sales muscle behind inferior product and make it sell well enough to show good profit. On the other hand, a read of some of Robert's vintage CR magazines - especially the washers of the 30's - shows that there was a lot of crap product out there then. I mean, using an electric washer in the 30's often seemed to involve a considerable risk of electrocution, or getting maimed or even killed by an out-of-control mangle. Then there were the agitators or pump mechanisms that would corrode and just fall off. If anyone got clean clothes out of these contraptions I think they probably deserved an award and a purple heart.
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Post# 9435-11/20/2001-02:39 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: New member of the family
MESSAGE: She's looking real good Peter. The Canadian ladies I find are not in such good condition! LOL
Eddy
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Post# 9436-11/20/2001-02:48 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT:
Fels Naptha
MESSAGE: Hi all, Jetcone was so gracious as to send me some Fels Naptha bars. Thank you again Jon! I've tried it already and washed a load of work shirts using about a cup of grated Fels. I washed them in my TL Viking (pre-94 GE built) and did they ever come out nice. I love the aroma and how soft they came out. We have very soft water here on the west coast of B.C. and thus it produced alot of suds, nothing the Viking couldn't handle though.
I hadn't smelled the Fels for many years and this is a treat.
Eddy
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Post# 9437-11/20/2001-04:24 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT:
RE: F&P is in
MESSAGE: The jury is still out on performance. So far so good. Its downstairs in the bar so mostly its just glasses and coffee cups. We had company over for dinner Saturday night and I did put the over flow from what wouldnt fit in the upstairs dishwasher. I did clean everything. Its also very quiet about on the level of a bosch if your at all familiar with how quiet they are.
SD
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Post# 9438-11/20/2001-04:28 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT:
RE: F&P is in
MESSAGE: Erect one? Hes decided to erect 3! A 9', a 7' and a vintage aluminum tree with a color wheel.
SD
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Post# 9439-11/20/2001-04:30 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT:
RE: F&P is in
MESSAGE: I got two. Or a double unit as they call it. So far I like it very well.
SD
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Post# 9440-11/20/2001-04:37 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT:
RE: F&P is in
MESSAGE: I'll give it a whirl one of these days. We are having a christmas party Dec.1st so maybe we will have something crusty and I can try it out.
SD
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Post# 9441-11/20/2001-04:46 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE
MESSAGE: Its time to replace that thing with a Maytag!
SD
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Post# 9442-11/20/2001-05:13 ||| devildaddy (Troy NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring detergent)
MESSAGE: No, amazingly he figures I can measure detergent as I am a computer programmer, although the ex always claimed to have an allergy to powdered detergents. Anyone know where I can dig up something very allergenic to throw in the bottom of the tub? As for keeping the washer...if GE won't replace the pile of garbage (the washer, not the ex), then Mike (nMaineMan) and I will be going used-appliance shopping this weekend. I blame the fact that my ex hasn't left yet on Osama bin Laden as my ex is now afraid to fly and thus isn't ready to move to Florida. Maybe there's been a secret jihad declared against these lousy washers that we're unaware of.
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Post# 9443-11/20/2001-06:00 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
POD
MESSAGE: MY BABY!
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Post# 9444-11/20/2001-06:03 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Time Delay Fuses)
MESSAGE: I believe Norges had a heavy current draw at the start of spin also.
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Post# 9445-11/20/2001-06:25 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE
MESSAGE: We found two of the newer generation GEs a couple of weekends ago. First one looked great behind the front panel, but the hub that the agravator sits on was worn so the action was impaired and noisy in this very low end machine. The other machine was more deluxe, but was totally wasted inside with the wonderful combination of oil, rust and water coming down through the tranny. It did have the auger agravator though, so we took that and the hub and did a transplant into the cheaper machine. John wondered if it was legal to have the deluxe agravaotr in the small tub machine. He sold it last week. I watched it work in the shop. Very loud because of no sound insulation, but very effective agitation with the non stock part. They seem to have modified the tranny so that it no longer suffers the spectacular brake failures that resulted in large scale flooding when the tub began spinning during agitation, throwing the water out then refilling when the water level switch tripped only to throw that water out too. John had a customer who observed sudsy water in the gutter a block from her home and wondered what was going on all the way back to her driveway where she saw the stream coming from her garage.
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Post# 9446-11/20/2001-06:44 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE
MESSAGE: Charlie - first of all your ex sounds a lot like mine - his name wouldn't be Arthur, would it?????
Now, here is the deal on the washer. I would document everything in a brief bullet point format so you have a script (you know, like how much the furnace cost to fis, amounts spent on repairs, etc..). When you call the chairman's office at GE corporate in Fairfield, CT., remember to be very patient and specific in explaining the situation. However, be firm in what you want. A friend of mine recently went through this identical thing and being less focused only ended up with the exact model as a replacement - and had to pay an additional $250. Generally what they will do is figure the value of your machine based on what you paid, an assumed useful life (they may use 10 years - wrong, it should be 8 at best) and amortized by the number of years you used the machine). In my friend's case, they gavbe her a really hard time for not having the service contract - but I cannot figure why that has anything to do with the situation. GE may be getting less cooperative in this area since this seems to be happening with alarming frequency. Or perhaps they need to conserve big $$ to fund Jack Welch's $8 million per year pension........
If you really want another GE replacement (why is beyond me......) then my suggestion is to ask for a GE front loader (really made be Frigidaire) or go to your local appliance emporium and look for the "GEmanas". These are washers made by Amana with GE labels - when I first saw them, I actually mistook them for Amanas - same stainless tub, control panel, dials, agitator, etc...
If you want cash then tell them that a replacement is not an option. One of the things that worked for me is that while the chairman's representative was explaining why they couldn't refund my money and I would have to accept yet a third GE replacement - I just stopped her and said "You have heard everything I told you. I have enumerated just how much this machine has cost me in other home repairs just to fix the water damage. If this were your situation, what would YOU want??" Kind of stopped them dead in their tracks..
I apologize for the long post - but I cannot stand to see anyone have this kind of problem and get screwed because it almost happened to me.
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Post# 9447-11/20/2001-06:47 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE
MESSAGE: Sorry to disagree but I say lose the washer AND the ex. That machine is a heap of molded plastic trouble. And I have my own and 4 other horror stories to prove it. Get away as fast as you can !!!!!!!!!!!
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Post# 9448-11/20/2001-06:48 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: updated Frigidaire washer line out
MESSAGE: Isn't that a shame??? Would have been nice if there was something new on the inside as well........
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Post# 9449-11/20/2001-06:52 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE
MESSAGE: And the worst part is their attitude toward the customer - like " you idiot, the transmission is supposed to fail in 18 months or the suspension must fail within two years." They have ALREADY built a horrible reputation in every arena, but as long as "Neutron Jack" gets his $8 MILLION per year pension and the fatass shareholders are happy, I guess everything is OK. I hear that now that he is retired, Mr. Welch's biggest regret is that he cannot put more people out of work............ See, now you got me all cranked up................
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Post# 9450-11/20/2001-06:55 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE
MESSAGE: Yes but that was when all of the technology was new so there were many missteps to be made, and there was a learning curve. But with the basics down pat, and with today's knowledge, there is little reason if any to produce plain old junk. WOrking the bugs out of new technology is one thing (likd the Ht3), but what GE has done is indefensible...............
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Post# 9451-11/20/2001-06:56 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: New member of the family (Who's the biotch now?)
MESSAGE: Maybe the Lady K IS the biotch so Peter can push her buttons.
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Post# 9452-11/20/2001-06:57 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: New member of the family (Isn't she?)
MESSAGE: Doesn't it so remind you of our childhood Kenmore 800's? The 800 didn't have the buttons but it looks mostly the same.
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Post# 9453-11/20/2001-06:57 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring detergent)
MESSAGE: If the ex is going to Ft. Lauderdale, perhaps he can look up my ex and his new improved All American boyfriend............
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Post# 9454-11/20/2001-06:58 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD
MESSAGE: My question is " does the dw come with the dress with those inflated sleeves and the flower at the waist or is that an option like the wood front?"
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Post# 9455-11/20/2001-07:00 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE
MESSAGE: Well, TT havent I seen that problem before!! Oh, yes, it was in my laundry room ........three times!
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Post# 9456-11/20/2001-07:02 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (POD DW)
MESSAGE: I'll take that one.
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Post# 9457-11/20/2001-07:03 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring detergent)
MESSAGE: You could, of course, use lots of detergent, and maybe some Biz ( Clorox would be too harsh on the poor dear) and sort of "forget" to rinse...........
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Post# 9458-11/20/2001-07:23 ||| gizmo (Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inside the Unimatic Mechanism
MESSAGE: I too am mystified about converting vertical rotation into up and down motion. Does anyone have a link to an explanation, or would someone like attempt to explain how it works?
You may be interested that Frigidaires were also manufactured in Australia. Can't say about the Unimatic, before my time, but my family had a 1969-ish one. They were made by the Aus arm of GM, called Holden. Our machine had "Frigidaire, a product of General Motors-Holden" on the control panel. The works on ours was belt driven, not direct drive. It still had the up and down pulsating action. The spin was pretty slow, nothing like 1140 rpm.
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Post# 9459-11/20/2001-07:24 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE
MESSAGE: A friend of mine has two of these GE/Hotpoint washers, one at home and one at an assisted living facility he runs. They both are used quite a bit, surprised there haven't been more problems. Well, there was that $148 lid switch repair....
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Post# 9460-11/20/2001-08:26 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inside the Unimatic Mechanism (Unimatic)
MESSAGE: I think the late 60s and 70s, the spin was pretty tame (about 650) compared to the Unimatic. It looks like to the crankshaft has some kind of angled cam the converts the verticle rotation to semi- horizontal rotation (kinda like a piston on a steam train) and then that connects to the center post which just goes up and down. Maybe Robert can explain it WAY better than I can.
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Post# 9461-11/20/2001-08:35 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring detergent)
MESSAGE: Strangely, measuring wasn't the issue. It had to do with pouring. You must use just the right wrist motion to evenly distribute the detergent on the bottom of the tub, start the washer and wait until the the water level hit just the bottom of the agitator vane, swirl it around, then loosly add the clothes. As you can imagine, other aspects of our lives were just as rewarding.
This may not be directly related to appliances, but I do have a snipet of advice. RUN! FAST AND DON'T LOOK BACK! I know you're hoping that by slight irritation (detergent residue) he'll go - I don't think this is the time to be subtle. PEPPER SPRAY. Put his stuff and the pile of garbage (washer) on the lawn and call a locksmith. There's more ways to get to Florida than flying. Driving, walking, hitching, shipping...
My experience of living with an ex (until his new improved house was ready - while sticking me with the mortgage on the current one) tought me a few lessons. One day you come home and there's masking tape down the center of every room (ala I Love Lucy). You can imagine which half of the dog was mine. But I'm not bitter....
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Post# 9462-11/20/2001-08:44 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring detergent)
MESSAGE: Hmm.. Does Tide sell a Pepper Spray scented powder?
Well, I've always been a bad boy when it came to pouring detergent. See, I used my Whirlpool as a hamper. When it gets full, add the detergent (where the waterfall will hit it) and start 'er up. I guess that's not "proper" but that's how I did it (lazy). Now I just fill the frigmore daily and when it's full, pour the detergent into the dispenser and let 'er rip!
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Post# 9463-11/20/2001-08:58 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inside the Unimatic Mechanism
MESSAGE: The principle should be the same as the opposite conversion in a car, where vertical motion (piston) is converted to rotation. A connecting rod between the rotating shaft and the vertical shaft does the trick. Wouldn't this also be similar to the conversion done in a "standard" tl to go from single direction rotation to back and forth motion (one more conversion)?
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Post# 9464-11/20/2001-09:00 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring detergent)
MESSAGE: YOU DON'T SORT? You would never have heard the end of that. Well, he would have been right about that one (that's 1 for him, 102349 for me).
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Post# 9465-11/20/2001-09:10 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Let me clarify)
MESSAGE: Wait! Hold off on that spanking. Yes, I sort. My work clothes are all the dark colors so they just go in the washing machine. Since that's most of my laundry, when the machine is full, it gets started. The whites go in the laundry basket for the second load.
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Post# 9466-11/20/2001-09:11 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inside the Unimatic Mechanism
MESSAGE: From what I can tell, it's like a piston on a steam train that drives the wheel, only reverse. The wheel drives the piston in the washer. For the Unimatic, it's verticle, for a Ken/Myg/GE, it's horizontal.
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Post# 9467-11/20/2001-09:14 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD
MESSAGE: Funny you should mention the wood front. Mine came with the wood front, so I had a counter place cut white matte finish Formica to fit the panel kit and she looks great. Don't know anything about the dresses, although last evening on Designing Women, the show ended with the girls appearing as the Supremes in a talent show and as I looked at what they were wearing (hideous) and the way they had the arm/hand movements down, it struck me that they were doing a drag show, and as anyone who has experienced the shows in Atlanta would tell you, the outfits were "bad drag."
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Post# 9468-11/20/2001-09:14 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Hello Northeastern US Collectors - A Dream Kitchen Come True
MESSAGE: Check this out...
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1298201945
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Post# 9469-11/20/2001-09:16 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inside the Unimatic Mechanism
MESSAGE: And on the Ken/Myg/GE it then connects to another shaft, thus turning it one way and then the other as the rod goes back and forth.
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Post# 9470-11/20/2001-09:18 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inside the Unimatic Mechanism
MESSAGE: Hi Gizmo, welcome to the club, another Down Under member, YAY.
Anyway, if I get a chance tonight I will post a video of exactly how the Unimatic mechanism converts rotational motion into pulsating motion, its hard to explain, but easy and simple to see with a video.
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Post# 9471-11/20/2001-09:19 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring detergent)
MESSAGE: "Let 'er rip" was a phrase automatic washer salesmen were cautioned not to use when referring to the machine's operation once started.
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Post# 9472-11/20/2001-09:22 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inside the Unimatic Mechanism (Unimatic)
MESSAGE: The late 60's machine were Rollermatics which spun at 710rpm or 1010rpm depending on the model. Only models toward the top of the line had rapidry1000 spin.
But since Gizmo said the machine had belts, that leads me to believe that in Austrialia they were using a different mechanism at the time, possibly they were still using the Multimatic of the 1959-1964 era.
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Post# 9473-11/20/2001-09:26 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE ( manque de sorting)
MESSAGE: Yes, we know, but he is of the heterosexual persuasion.
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Post# 9474-11/20/2001-09:27 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Let me clarify)
MESSAGE: What's the Friday night ceremony for?
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Post# 9475-11/20/2001-09:29 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (um ok)
MESSAGE: So that means I don't know how to wash cause I'm hetero?
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Post# 9476-11/20/2001-09:52 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (um ok)
MESSAGE: NO, No, No, no slight intended, just figured you had different ways of doing things as you then explained in your next post clarifying things.
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Post# 9477-11/20/2001-09:55 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (:-))
MESSAGE: Yeah, I do sort them out. Just being a single living alone, I figure just two loads a week is the most I can make. With the WP it was 3.
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Post# 9478-11/20/2001-10:13 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: F&P is in (trees)
MESSAGE: Oh my Scott. That vintage aluminum with color wheel evokes nightmares from my childhood. AHHHHHHGGGG!!
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Post# 9479-11/20/2001-10:19 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Time Delay Fuses)
MESSAGE: TT, our 64 Norge sure did. You could hear the whole power system "groan" when it first locked into spin. I think I even saw some lights slightly dim. In fact, it kinda pulled on the electrical system until it "shifted" gears as I called it--getting past the slow spin speed click on normal or when it reached slow spin speed locking on slow spin speed. In fact TT, if you have knowledge of how that sytem worked, I'd love to know about it. Sounded like there was some sort of gear or clutch mechanism involved as it ramped up to full spin speed. Cause it would kinda whine like a jet engine in two stages.
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Post# 9480-11/20/2001-10:27 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: New member of the family (Isn't she?)
MESSAGE: yes Jason it definitely did. The upward an downwrd curve of the control panel around the timer dial and the water level switch evoked those thoughts. Just a slightly different color.
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Post# 9481-11/20/2001-10:29 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring detergent)
MESSAGE: Well Anthony, it's HIS loss. Perosnally, I believe the Italian-American model is a far superior offering. Maybe some day he'll realize just what he gave up.
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Post# 9482-11/20/2001-10:31 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE
MESSAGE: Boy Anthony, talk about being agitated. You and all the other millions of GE owners, but I guess I don't blame you. I guess I shouldn't complain about my "squeal like a pig" clutch on my 15 year old DD LK.
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Post# 9483-11/20/2001-10:36 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring detergent)
MESSAGE: Oh BROTHER Ed. Talk about finiky about detergent adding. As for the rest, I now "understand" completely what you've eluded to. I'm so sorry you had to go through that pain.
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Post# 9484-11/20/2001-10:40 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Let me clarify)
MESSAGE: But Jason, Ed & I will still come spank you if needed.
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Post# 9485-11/20/2001-10:48 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring detergent)
MESSAGE: But Jason, isn't that one of hte reasons you got rid of Whirly--let 'er rip??? as in socks?
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Post# 9486-11/20/2001-10:52 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Ripping Friends)
MESSAGE: Yeah, Whirly did a fine job of RIPPING socks, drawers, pants, and towel. Well, the drawers may have been my own ripping but that's another discussion.
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Post# 9487-11/20/2001-10:54 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Time Delay Fuses)
MESSAGE: You must be aware that there were times at the age of 10 I was in the bathroom for extended periods of time (ahem) and would miss the washing, save for when it went into spin and the bathroom light would dim & I could hear the draw of current and slight groan (LOL), no that wasn't me, I had to be quiet!!!
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Post# 9488-11/20/2001-10:55 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (only if...)
MESSAGE: Only if you let me spank you first.
Jason "Board of education" L
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Post# 9489-11/20/2001-10:56 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Time Delay Fuses)
MESSAGE: You sure that was the washer groaning?
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Post# 9490-11/20/2001-10:57 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (only if...)
MESSAGE: I think Ed and I could accommodate that request. Who knows, Bruce may join in LOL.
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Post# 9491-11/20/2001-10:58 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Time Delay Fuses)
MESSAGE: No, it was the electrical system groaning. TRUST ME. Like I said, I had to be quiet. I was "supposed" to be being a good Catholic boy (ha ha).
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Post# 9492-11/20/2001-11:04 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Estate Sale Saturday (Time Delay Fuses)
MESSAGE: At least you had something to divert "their" attention. Hell, my mom's old Kenmore dryer started smoking at the just the right time. At least I had no interruption.
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Post# 9493-11/20/2001-11:18 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (:-))
MESSAGE: Well, maybe there is a differenc then - I can generate much more than 2 loads by myself.
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Post# 9494-11/20/2001-11:26 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD
MESSAGE: Anthony, I just relooked at the picture of her again. To me
she reminds me of Anita Bryant with different hair color.
RUN!!!!!!!
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Post# 9495-11/20/2001-11:30 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (:-))
MESSAGE: Yeah, me too. I change clothes twice a day at least. Plus you've got your workout stuff and well, we won't digress the rest in this public forum--save that for later LOL.
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Post# 9496-11/20/2001-12:04 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring detergent)
MESSAGE: Perhaps the ex could be gifted a one way Amtrak ticket.
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Post# 9497-11/20/2001-12:10 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inside the Unimatic Mechanism
MESSAGE: One would think that, wf, but if you look at the photos, there isn't a 90 degree connection between the motor shaft and the crank shaft or the pulsator shaft. It all looks like 45 degree angles, and I can't figure out what is rotating where, and how the connections are formed. Oh well, this may be one of those situations where one must be able to hold the pulsator and crank in ones hands to fully appreciate them.
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Post# 9498-11/20/2001-12:16 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inside the Unimatic Mechanism
MESSAGE: That would be nice, Rob. Looking forward to it!
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Post# 9499-11/20/2001-13:11 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inside the Unimatic Mechanism
MESSAGE: Hmmm.... I'll have to look again.
"one must be able to hold the pulsator and crank in ones hands to fully appreciate them" - so true (sigh)
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Post# 9500-11/20/2001-13:46 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Hello Northeastern US Collectors - A Dream Kitchen Come True
MESSAGE: Oh, so pretty! I would love to see a picture of it when it was installed! The guarantee he offers and parts availability statement is a real eye catcher - I wonder why they replaced the dishwasher??
When my parents were looking for a house we came across one of these kitchens in turquoise with the wall hung refrigerator/freezer & orginal dishwasher. I was absolutely enchanted and thought it was perfect, but the parents were horrified and couldn't run away fast enough.
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Post# 9501-11/20/2001-13:50 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inside the Unimatic Mechanism
MESSAGE: Ed, SLAP!!!!! You naughty but nice boy you!!!!! To use a phrase someone I know uses, .... "Bad Bear!" But yes, sigh!!!! and maybe even an electrical system groan LOL
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Post# 9502-11/20/2001-14:27 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inside the Unimatic Mechanism
MESSAGE: After looking at the diagram it appears the whole 45 degree thing is used to realign the pulsator shaft with the motor shaft. I believe the "wheel" at the bottom of the pusator shaft is what does the conversion. What I'm now confused about is what drives the spin shaft. I think the video would explain a lot.
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Post# 9503-11/20/2001-15:13 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD
MESSAGE: Tom, what year Superba is this? The reason I ask is because ad copy specifically mentions the blue colored (2-arm I'm assuming) wash arm. I remember the house 4 doors down from us had a Superba installed when it was built. Mind you, I'm just the age of 7 when I discover this, but I remember thinking, it looked so much like our Waste King (the racks did I mean), but I thought, neat, it's got 4 arms that spray water unlike our only 2. What year did they start offering 4-way hydrosweep wash arms? Houses were built spring/very early summer 1961 for the parade of homes. Otherwise from what I remember, this particular Superba still only had the 3 buttons, just like on our WK, 3 buttons. I also thought the multi-colored butons were pretty.
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Post# 9504-11/20/2001-15:20 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring detergent)
MESSAGE: I could tell you were not bitter......... and I would have NEVER stood for that crap. Heave his putrid ass out the door and let him stay in a hotel............
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Post# 9505-11/20/2001-15:27 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring detergent)
MESSAGE: That would mean that he was conscious...............
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Post# 9506-11/20/2001-16:19 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring detergent)
MESSAGE: Well, I didn't for all that long. I thought if I was tolerant it would help us get through the the asset settlement phase of the breakup more amicably. It didn't work. His stuff ended up on the lawn.
One of the interesting points was the the washer/dryer (among othes). We agreed that anything we had when we got together we leave with, then split anything we bought together in half. We kept his Kenmore machines and sold my new Whirlpool (he liked his better and it was easier not to argue). We used the money from my machines to buy a new sofa. So when we split he wanted the machines (they were his before) and half the money for the sofa (we bought it together). If I had it to do over again my response would have been to insert a dual action agitator up his....
I'm really not bitter (anymore?) - but I did learn a few lessons.
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Post# 9507-11/20/2001-16:38 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring detergent)
MESSAGE: Perhaps then he could have told you exactly how that pulsator works!
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Post# 9508-11/20/2001-17:05 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring detergent)
MESSAGE: Rich, Ed was referring to a dual action agitator with the spirals.
Ed, maybe the DAA would have been more "thrilling" and a 3-ringer may have been too good for him. Now a pulsamatic pulsator may have had possibilities as well as a mounted working AutoMagic LOL.
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Post# 9509-11/20/2001-17:48 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (nasty)
MESSAGE: nasty, nasty, Mr. Bobbie Bear!
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Post# 9510-11/20/2001-17:49 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inside the Unimatic Mechanism (Get the Popcorn)
MESSAGE: We'll as promised here is a video of how exactly the Unimatic drives the pulsator washing action in a up and down fashion. Made by Uni Productions, INK.
For Internet Explorer users please right click on the link below and select SAVE TARGET AS and save this to your hard drive, then view the video locally to save on our bandwidth.
By the way for new members, these are WMV video files and must be viewed in Microsoft Media Player 7 or later. The player is free and can be downloaded from microsoft's web site.
LINK: http://204.50.24.192/VID/MECH/UnimaticMechanism-1.wmv
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Post# 9511-11/20/2001-18:18 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inside the Unimatic Mechanism (Wow)
MESSAGE: I never would've guessed it. Such a simple mechanism. I wonder why they didn't keep that design longer than they did.
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Post# 9512-11/20/2001-19:12 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inside the Unimatic Mechanism (Get the Popcorn)
MESSAGE: Lovely. Thanks a bunch, Uni. Now I understand. It is a verrrrry interesting way of solving the problem.
I am guessing it has certain advantages over a more "traditional" 90 degree crank and con-rod approach as would be found in an internal combustion motor.
1) It is more compact and allows the motor to be mounted in line with the pulsator.
2) It *may* allow for a more gradual change of pulsator motion between up and down and up etc., than a 90 degree crank/conrod would do. I'm not sure about this.
3) It does away with big end and little end rod bearing issues. These are subjected to enormous slapping forces in a typical motor.
4) It *may* reduce the side-side forces on the piston (read: pulsator) in a typical reciprocating motor. These forces are induced because the conrod is only completely vertical at the very top and bottom of the stroke. At other times, it is tilted to one side or the other, following the motion of the crankpin. I am not clear on what non-vertical forces might be imparted, if any, to the pulsator in the Unimatic crank design. Uni, when you tear an old one down, is there any sign of asymmetical wear on the sides of the pulsator or the inside bearing surface of the channel the pusator rides in?
Thanks again for the video. Now I not only want a Unimatic (or rollermatic), I also want to have a spare to tear down and play with!!!
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Post# 9513-11/20/2001-19:12 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring detergent)
MESSAGE: Yes, I realized that after I sent that. I guess I just have pulsators on my mind today.
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Post# 9514-11/20/2001-19:29 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD
MESSAGE: I am not sure what you are asking about, but the 4 way Hydrosweep was introduced on the 15 series in time to be tested by CU for the DW report about 65 or 66. The 14 series was only about 4 years from maybe late 60 cause this exact ad is on page 12 of the December 1960 BH&G.
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Post# 9515-11/20/2001-19:32 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring detergent)
MESSAGE: So I guess it's true that the only thing worse than being single is praying to be single again. I am so glad that I am the only one bossing me.
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Post# 9516-11/20/2001-19:37 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring detergent)
MESSAGE: I am so glad that you are not bitter, but you do sound like you have a couple of advanced degrees from all the lessons you learned. See why I say that no machine can EVER hurt you like a people can? (short of electrocution, and that is over so fast you are gone before you can be bitter)
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Post# 9517-11/20/2001-19:41 ||| Tucker (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
Sorry just wanted to see my new backround =)
MESSAGE: Did anyone see the vintage whirlpool fridge for sale on ebay? Its pink!
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Post# 9518-11/20/2001-19:43 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inside the Unimatic Mechanism (Get the Popcorn)
MESSAGE: Robert, How Wonderful. It deserves the Three Ring Award for Best Independently Produced Appliance Video this week. All of your productions are award winners. YAY!
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Post# 9519-11/20/2001-19:48 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring detergent)
MESSAGE: It keep getting these messages that I might as well just plan on always being alone, nevere hope of ever finding the right one that will be around for a LONG time. Ive been on my own for the last 25 years, another 25 more won't hurt me I guess.
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Post# 9520-11/20/2001-19:54 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inside the Unimatic Mechanism (Get the Popcorn)
MESSAGE: Wow, that's what the big cylinder in the diagram does. Thanks for posting that.
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Post# 9521-11/20/2001-19:56 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Combined Topics)
MESSAGE: Combining topics of the day - with that Unimatic mechanism who needs a man?
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Post# 9522-11/20/2001-20:15 ||| syndets2000 (Nanjemoy, Md)
SUBJECT:
Laundromat 78rpm w/Betty Furness
MESSAGE: I found the record that came with our Laundromat, it has lots of information, & I would like to know if I may post it on the audio section of the club. How can that be done? It is very clean with no scratches on it.
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Post# 9523-11/20/2001-21:13 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inside the Unimatic Mechanism (Wow)
MESSAGE: Because with an 1140rpm motor, there was no way in the mid 1950's to make it a two speed transmission. Gentle cycles were starting to become the rage and GM had to produce their own version to survive.
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Post# 9524-11/20/2001-21:19 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inside the Unimatic Mechanism (Get the Popcorn)
MESSAGE: You are absolutely right about the gradual change of motion between up and down rich. There is no "pause" time between the reversing action.
I have never seen any wear between the crankshaft shaft itself and the trunnion that the shaft enters, remember there is an oil pump inside the mechansim that constantly showers the entire system with oil. On one model from the farm, the shaft had broken off of the crankshaft assembly. But, I'm pretty sure that this was due to the fact that the bolt that holds down the pulsator was stuck and it took quite a lot of pounding on the wrench with a hammer.
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Post# 9525-11/20/2001-21:21 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inside the Unimatic Mechanism (Get the Popcorn)
MESSAGE: We'll thanks Tom, glad you enjoy my silly little transmission show. I have to do the spin version next, but that will have to wait until we return from Florida next week, we're leaving tomorrow morning.
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Post# 9526-11/20/2001-21:22 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Laundromat 78rpm w/Betty Furness
MESSAGE: Hi Robert. I have that same Betty Furness record. I've been meaning to digitize it sometime. Have you digitize it yet (converted the sounds to a computer file)?
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Post# 9527-11/20/2001-21:28 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring detergent)
MESSAGE: And please do not forget rule 1: Do not co-mingle assets. Too risky. I never did and boy am I glad. So between the Kenmores and Whirlpools, how did you end up with the GE nightmare - or is this one of those stories I don't want to know....................
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Post# 9528-11/20/2001-21:33 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring detergent)
MESSAGE: You can say that again!!!! As sad as I was to lose someone I knew for so long, I realize that I should have run away long before the breakup. Now, like you, I am the only one bossing me!! Independence is a great state of mind, but if Mr Right or Mr Close To It comes along, well, then we will see. Depends on his taste in appliances and cleaning products - you can tell a lot about someone that way............
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Post# 9529-11/20/2001-21:36 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring detergent)
MESSAGE: More common than you know, Tom. I could probably teach a university level course leading to an advanced degree with all I had to learn in the last year. Or, perhaps I will just make it into a movie. Casting may be a problem though. In my role, I could see Ray Romano (Everybody Loves Raymond), Tom Selleck or Mr T.
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Post# 9530-11/20/2001-21:39 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring detergent)
MESSAGE: Anthony, washrfreak (Ed) never had a GE. That's devildaddy (Charlie).
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Post# 9531-11/20/2001-21:40 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inside the Unimatic Mechanism (Get the Popcorn)
MESSAGE: Robert, thanks for the Unimatic video - was great and I as an avowed non mechanic/engineer type really enjoyed it. Have a wonderful trip to Florida.
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Post# 9532-11/20/2001-21:42 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring detergent)
MESSAGE: Anthony, I vote for Tom Selleck first and then Ray Romano (but he may have to be first since he's Italian). But Mr. T? Pity da fool!!!--only for the "attitude" portions.
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Post# 9533-11/20/2001-21:43 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring detergent)
MESSAGE: I had that sinking feeling that I was about to embarass myself in a huge fashion, but couldn't figure out why until it was too late. Although it has been way too long of a day, my apologies to anyone whose name I have transposed.
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Post# 9534-11/20/2001-21:45 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring detergent)
MESSAGE: I doubt you embarrassed yourself one bit. Sorry it's been a long day for you, but hopefully a productive one at that.
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Post# 9535-11/20/2001-21:49 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring detergent)
MESSAGE: Anthony, one must also take this into concern--who'd be most physically flattering/resembling you--Mr. T, Ray, or Tom??? Who'd you want to portray you the most? The latter two are most sexy.
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Post# 9536-11/20/2001-21:53 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring detergent)
MESSAGE: Depends on which stage of my life we are portraying............
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Post# 9537-11/20/2001-22:37 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring detergent)
MESSAGE: Yep, learned that lesson well. I was young and stupid. I'm not young anymore.
I didn't end up with the GE nightmare. That was devildaddy. I was responding to him.
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Post# 9538-11/21/2001-05:10 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring detergent)
MESSAGE: If this was the case I would not be with my hubby now. He had this D.D. kenmore set that was #$%^&. His taste in cleaning supplies is completely different from mine. He likes bargin pine. I like the real thing. He came walking up in here with some nice'n'fluffy sofener. I had to put a stop to that real quick! One wash load with tropical bloom and he was converted. I always judge by whats in the frige. When I met my EX all he had in the frige was beer and bologna which meant I had to cook. My current had FOOD in the frige! I tryed not to throw up when I saw it was a GE.
SD
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Post# 9539-11/21/2001-05:12 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inside the Unimatic Mechanism (This is great!!)
MESSAGE: Robert Thank you, I just got my new computer and I was happy to be able to view. It's real awsome. I hope you enjoy your trip and have a great Thanksgiving.
Peter
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Post# 9540-11/21/2001-06:19 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring detergent)
MESSAGE: We are guaranteed nothing beyond the minute we are living in. Be grateful for the blessings you have and if you think you are coming up short in that department, look around. You will find lots to be thankful for and many in far worse circumstances. You make your own happiness and no one else can make you happy if you are not happy within. Until you are complete and consider yourself good company for yourself, you cannot expect anyone to consider you good company for themselves.
There is a mystical concept in Judaism called shefa which means flow. The essence of the concept is that the blessings rain down continuously, BUT the circuit for receiving them has to be completed by returning thanks for them. The more thankful we are, the more blessings we can receive. It is explained by the old science demonstration with the dry cell battery with wires connected to a light. There is a knife switch in the circuit and until that switch is closed the circuit is incomplete and the currrent cannot flow. Thanksgiving is the switch that closes the circuit of blessing. Not only that, but psychologists have "discovered" that when you concentrate on things for which you are grateful, your mood improves.
Being single is not a fatal condition, nor is being with someone a cure for loneliness. Each of us has the choice to shine or not. And in the words of my beloved Aunt Anne, "If you are looking for sympathy, it's between shit and syphilis in the dictionary."
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Post# 9541-11/21/2001-06:26 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inside the Unimatic Mechanism (Get the Popcorn)
MESSAGE: Spin is simple, the shifter just locks everything so that it all turns together which is why the motor drops back into the start windings at the beginning of spin, because it basically almost stalls out the motor to get the whole thing spinning. That's when the fuses would blow.
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Post# 9542-11/21/2001-06:32 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring detergent)
MESSAGE: In addition to Mr. Right and Mr. Close To It, don't forget Mr. Right Now. He can be fun and there's no strings to clog lint filters or jam innards.
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Post# 9543-11/21/2001-06:59 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Wise Words)
MESSAGE: That's something that I have to live by also. Loneliness SUCKS!
BTW Sympathy is between "sympathomimetic" and "sympathy strike". Shit and syphilis are miles apart :-D
But we get the picture.
LINK: http://dictionary.msn.com/find/entry.asp?search=sympathy
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Post# 9544-11/21/2001-07:35 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inside the Unimatic Mechanism (Get the Popcorn)
MESSAGE: Three cheers - even a little washing action too!
Have a great trip and a happy Thanksgiving. Greg
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Post# 9545-11/21/2001-07:55 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Wise Words)
MESSAGE: Between does not have to be next to.
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Post# 9546-11/21/2001-07:57 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inside the Unimatic Mechanism (Get the Popcorn)
MESSAGE: Greg, I thought that was like a bit of playtime after the demo, to get to watch the washer in action; so considerate of Robert.
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Post# 9547-11/21/2001-08:14 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inside the Unimatic Mechanism (Get the Popcorn)
MESSAGE: The washing action at the end of the video was meant as a "Happy Ending"! YAY.
We're off to see my father in Florida, thankfully he has a computer so I won't be cut off from the world.
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Post# 9548-11/21/2001-08:23 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inside the Unimatic Mechanism (Get the Popcorn)
MESSAGE: Robert
Thanks for the vid, perfect example of behind the scenes action, glad I was able to use one in person...
sooooo during the spin everything moves but the cogs ect stay still????
Enjoy thanksgiving
Mike
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Post# 9549-11/21/2001-08:27 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring detergent)
MESSAGE: Tom
What perfect thoughts to start the day with, you have a knack of pitching it "just right"
Its all to easy in this fast world to want and need the grass to be greener!!!
Cheers, Mike
p.s. Sounds like Aunt Anne came from the North of England, they tell em like it is up there....
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Post# 9550-11/21/2001-08:31 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Wise Words)
MESSAGE: Hey Jason
just remember you`ve got more years and youth to find Nirvana than most of us have...Enjoy the find...
Cheers, Mike
p.s.any interesting finds in the lint trap yet???
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Post# 9551-11/21/2001-08:47 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Inside the Unimatic Mechanism (Florida?)
MESSAGE: Hey, won't you swing by New Orleans and come visit me. We can watch my Frigmore run.
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Post# 9552-11/21/2001-08:49 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Wise Words)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the encouragement. Yeah, I'll be 31 this week but I'm still a young'un. There's a chick out there somewhere.
Re: Lint trap- Actually, I make double sure my pockets are empty before they go in the Frigmore. After the FL, my dryer's lint trap doesn't fill as much. Very nice. My clothes are happier now.
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Post# 9553-11/21/2001-10:25 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring detergent)
MESSAGE: Hey Mike, good to see your presence. Sorry you don't have our holiday tomorrow; lots of good eating. No, as a matter of fact she lives in a Leisure World retirement community that my cousin Lester dubbed Seizure World in southern California and was born in Hibbing, Minnesota. Best wishes, Tom
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Post# 9554-11/21/2001-11:44 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring detergent)
MESSAGE: Okay, okay, as hard-headed as I am, I maybe beginning to get the message. Just someone to hang around with would be nice though. Yes, I know being with someone doesn't cure lonliness. I know of marriages like that. And I'm thankful I'm not in a situation like that. However, as you know Tom, my circumstances are "different". I spend an inordinate amount of time by myself--once it's dark I have to be home, no choice in that. I just feel so isolated at times and (heaven forbid) sometimes even the washer & dishwasher aren't enough company for me. Maybe I oughta start taking in laundry & get a HE3t for entertainment. But having to exist in the "straight" world is getting OLD and I have no avenue to the other nor understanding of it in a small town. I enjoy being around others. I am a "people person", don't always get satisfaction from "things" as in appliances. But like I said, maybe a HE3t would enhance my washing excitement--as much laundry as I've done over the past few weeks, I NEED one. It just never seems to end all of a sudden. Oh well, so much for my ramblings ...... (Now Anthony's got me doing it).
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Post# 9555-11/21/2001-11:58 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring detergent)
MESSAGE: See my post on general embarrassment....... Sorry for the mix up
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Post# 9556-11/21/2001-11:59 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring detergent)
MESSAGE: Well, we must forgive some things................
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Post# 9557-11/21/2001-12:01 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring detergent)
MESSAGE: Hmmm.............. forgot that one!!!!
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Post# 9558-11/21/2001-12:03 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Wise Words)
MESSAGE: Yes, but no one said where between shit and syphilis it was......... Actually the quote I always heard was that "sympathy was between shit and tough"...
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Post# 9559-11/21/2001-12:06 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring your heart out)
MESSAGE: A washing machine is wonderful but it can't say "I love you".
- another lonely person
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Post# 9560-11/21/2001-12:26 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring detergent)
MESSAGE: OH MY G-D, YOU'RE GAY, in this completely straight world???!!! I am in severe high horror!!! My world is so straight that you are the only GAY person I know. Oh no, this must be terrible, especially in 2001 with personal computers and the Internet and the Space Odyssey even, not at all like the previous 40 years when all of the poor homosexuals had nothing but bars. I am semi-ultra wrecked.
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Post# 9561-11/21/2001-12:31 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring detergent)
MESSAGE: Tom, I guess I can't properly express myself. Aside from the club and its "family", I don't know anyone here personally other than one person, and that was by accident. He will be leaving next July. At night, I'm totally dependant on someone taking me anywhere if I even "wanted" to go "anywhere". And all those drivers are very straight.
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Post# 9562-11/21/2001-18:45 ||| Scott55405 (Minnesota)
SUBJECT:
Happy Thanksgiving
MESSAGE: Hi everyone, a quick hello and Happy Holiday to all! Drive/travel safely and enjoy time with family and friends and the many things we have still to be thankful for, recent events notwithstanding. I will spending time with my family for the next couple of days and will spend the last half of the weekend relaxing about town. Enjoy!
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Post# 9563-11/21/2001-19:32 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving
MESSAGE: And I'll be busy as a bee trying to eradicate a wasp's nest from under the patio roof...! The little buggers have found a small opening between the shed roof ceiling and roofing between the rafters, so I can't actually see the nest, I just can spray bug-spray in though the hole. I may just try sealing it up with self-expanding urethane foam and hope they starve to death.
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Post# 9564-11/21/2001-19:34 ||| scott55405 (Minnesota)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving
MESSAGE: Good luck, I don't envy you that. I don't do bees. Have a nice holiday!
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Post# 9565-11/21/2001-19:43 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Your move, Bob)
MESSAGE: Bob, I'll tell you something and it's like the line about having to break eggs to make an omlet. You cannot expect to enjoy life as a Gay man until you come out to some extent, and that has to begin with yourself. You moan and bitch about being alone. You work in a hospital and let me tell you from personal experience from when I worked in a hospital that they are full of homosexuals, but you cannot play the straight man and expect to tap into any of the Gay networking going on. If you worked at finding Gay resources on the net, you would not be lonely. If you do not know about Yahoo Groups, I am sure someone here can explain how to search them for you. There is just too much out there for me to believe that a lot of this loneliness is your wanting to stay in the closet. Beginning the coming out process is a scary step to take and it does not all have to be done at once, but I am telling you that there is nothing to compare with being honest with yourself and others. People will help you, once they know what you want and if you do not try to turn everything into a pun. You do not even have to come out to those around you in person, but you certainly can join groups on the web. You do not live at the end of the earth, even if it is Texas. You are not so far from large cities that others wtih computers would not know of your town. You do not have to go out at night to get to know people. You have met people in this club with whom you can share what you could not share with anyone before and yet did not meet them until the convention. There are other venues where you can share other things. Just as it is OK to share appliance interests and fantasies, it is OK to share sexual interests. If you had not opened up to this group and got off you butt and made plans to get to the convention and worked very hard to get there, you know what you would have missed. It is the same with sex; you have to make an effort, overcome some internal homophobia, get off your butt and get into situations where you can make contacts that will be rewarding to you. No one can do it for you, but almost everyone who can will be willing to help you. The most rewaqrding things in life are the results of taking a first step. I remember finally picing up the phone book and starting to call around in January of 1981 asking appliance places about an old Frigidaire washer. I met a lot of healthy skepticism and semi rude responses; "What do you want one of those old things for?" And a very bitter former Frigidaire dealer explained, as a way of showing me my ignorance, the differences in the various machines. Then I called ALCO. Jeff also asked why I wanted an old Frigidaire, but it was not in the same tone of voice. I explained that I wanted to find one before they were all gone because I liked them. Then he told me about their combo and we were off an running. On Washington's birthday I met them. By spring I was driving all the way up here to parties. On Memorial Day I came up before John got home from work and cooked for a crowd and had to put an upity queen in her place when she questioned why I was fixing chicken in the electric oven and not on the gas grill. When I finished with her, she knew the meaning of singed, and that I wanted dripings to make gravy. I introduced John and Jeff to hashed brown potatoes. The only skillet of any size they had was the Presto electric one. By August John was showing me houses in the area and by November, I was moving into my first house. The most wonderful part of my life began because I started making phone calls going after something I wanted and found great friends and a new fulfillment in life. The rabbis tell the story that the waters of the sea did not part when Moses stretched out his arm over them, but rather they parted as the first people stepped into them, showing that taking the first step yourself shows your committment and faith and then help comes from other sources than just yourself. Some here have described finding the appliance club as a second coming out. You found the appliance club as your first coming out. Now you have to try the second big coming out adventure in your life, but you have to take the first step yourself. And the difference in your life after doing this can be as dramatic as Dorothy Gale waking up in a monotone farmhouse and opening the door to a world of full color. Tom
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Post# 9566-11/21/2001-19:44 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving
MESSAGE: Scott, how wonderful to see a posting from you. Best wishes to you also, and to everyone in Applianceville for a wonderful holiday.
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Post# 9567-11/21/2001-19:49 ||| scott55405 (Minnesota)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving
MESSAGE: Thanks Tom! :-)
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Post# 9568-11/21/2001-19:49 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving
MESSAGE: If you do this, just make sure that they cannot chew their way into your house if their exit is sealed. They eat wood to make the paper nests so they have the jaws to chew their way out of the prison you are contemplating. You don't want them turning up in your quarters mad and hungry.
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Post# 9569-11/21/2001-20:09 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving (wasps :-()
MESSAGE: I love animals. I love little kitty kats, puppy dogs, even my neighbor's squirrel and their cute little rat. Animals are so awesome..
BUT... it is my instinctive duty to harm, torture, destroy, and kill every single wasp off the face of this planet. I hate wasps. I had a GIANT wasps nest in the vent for my stove. In a trailer house, that doesn't come out of the roof, it comes through the wall. There was the next. When I sprayed the initial poison up there, about 20 wasps came out at me, some came inside the house. My dad and I had to take the vent apart to uncover a 3" wide wasp nest (shaped like a stop sign) and about 100 dead wasps. They had more wasps in that hole than they have people in this trailer park. I got stung by one when I was little and that's when I devoted my entire life to making their little lives as miserable as possible. Destroy them, Rich. DESTROY the little terrorists!
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Post# 9570-11/21/2001-20:13 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
A note on Thanksgiving
MESSAGE: You are what you eat so have a happy Turkey Day from New Orleans. Yes we fry 'em down here.
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Post# 9571-11/21/2001-20:15 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
Happy Thanksgiving
MESSAGE: I hope all you guys have a wonderful Thanksgiving holiday. This year more than ever, I realize how much I have to be thankful for...including our club and its members.
Rich
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Post# 9572-11/21/2001-20:16 ||| Scott55405 (MinneapolisMinnesota)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving (wasps :-()
MESSAGE: I have to agree with you about animals. Animals are truly wonderful beings. Even *certain* bees as we all know can be a good thing. Wasps, on the other hand, are just insane and serve no such useful purpose. They just need to get over themselves. I think I know the type of exhaust you're speaking of, and it would not be fun to have a wasp's nest in there. Much too easy access to the interior of the house!
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Post# 9573-11/21/2001-20:17 ||| Scott55405 (MinneapolisMinnesota)
SUBJECT:
RE: A note on Thanksgiving
MESSAGE: They sell some sort of pots here that you can deep fry your turkey in. In fact this particular kitchen store demonstrates it in the parking lot a few times a year. I might go sometime. My mom and I both thought it was an interesting concept. She has always deep fried chicken and fish with delicious results, so why not turkey.
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Post# 9574-11/21/2001-20:19 ||| Scott55405 (MinneapolisMinnesota)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving
MESSAGE: *HUG* Happy Thanksgiving Rich! :-) Talk to you soon!
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Post# 9575-11/21/2001-20:54 ||| trainguy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
Agitator Kit Part Number Search
MESSAGE: The 1-18 I just picked up has a chipped agitator. I asked the local Frigidaire dealer if he could get me one. He got me agitator kit #9956770, which was a completely new kit, however, it is the jetcone agitator for the 60s models, not the 1-18s. Neither he nor I have reference materials. Can anyone help me with the part number for the 1-18 jetcone agitator kit? He is sure he can get just the #633629 agitator, but with the correct number for the whole kit, he is certain to get the correct parts.
The washer was also missing the agitator cap. But luckily I have a brand new #2833241 fabric softener dispenser for it.
Thanks and have a Happy Thanksgiving.
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Post# 9576-11/21/2001-21:33 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving
MESSAGE: I will! I'm driving to Modesto tomorrow for dinner with my former neighbors. They cashed in on the housing boom here two years ago and were able to sell their house for almost twice what they paid for it. They then bought a house for cash in Modesto and retired.
Don't worry about me and the wasps. Tonight I gave them some industrial strength spray ("Real Kill") and then sealed them in their little rafter space with expanding foam. Once they are gone, I can finish off the work I need to do on the eaves. That's assuming they don't chew their way out...
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Post# 9577-11/21/2001-21:35 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving
MESSAGE: Yes, I thought of that. Fortunately the wall between their shed roof and the house is stucco (cement) so they'll whittle down their little mandibles before they get into the house proper. They *might* get into the enclose patio, but I can shut that off from the rest of the house if that happens.
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Post# 9578-11/21/2001-21:36 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving (wasps :-()
MESSAGE: Roger, good buddy. They are on their way to hornet hell.
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Post# 9579-11/21/2001-21:38 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: A note on Thanksgiving
MESSAGE: I bbq/smoke my turkeys. Unfortunatley I'm going to a friends house for dinner tomorrow, but on Friday I have a nice 19 pounder just waiting for the mesquite charcoal and hickory. I love the way the cats gorge themselves on it...
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Post# 9580-11/21/2001-21:43 ||| Scott55405 (Minneapolis, Minnesota)
SUBJECT:
RE: A note on Thanksgiving
MESSAGE: I got to taste a turkey made in a Weber one time. I'm not sure what was used as the coal/heat source but it was delicious made by that method.
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Post# 9581-11/21/2001-21:46 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving (Welcome Back)
MESSAGE: Scott - I am glad to see you are back.
Happy Thanksgiving.
Peter
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Post# 9582-11/21/2001-21:47 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
Happy Thanksgiving
MESSAGE: I want to wish everyone a very Happy and Safe Holiday
Enjoy,
Peter
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Post# 9583-11/21/2001-21:51 ||| Scott55405 (Minneapolis, Minnesota)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving (Welcome Back)
MESSAGE: Happy Thanksgiving to you too Peter! I'll be gone for a couple of days but let's talk again soon! Scott
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Post# 9584-11/21/2001-21:51 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
20/20
MESSAGE: I was channel surfing tonight and came in on the middle of a story on 20/20. It seemed to be about boys playing with "girly" toys. One boy really enjoyed playing with his kitchen set - and what a set it was. I'm not entirely sure of the point of the story (I missed the beginning), but it was either the question of whether or not playing with dolls makes you gay or how other children treat doll-playing boys. Did anyone else see it?
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Post# 9585-11/21/2001-21:59 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring your heart out)
MESSAGE: Gee Jason, we are all lonely sometimes. But I learned to use the solitude to my advantage, and that helps. That doesn't mean that being alone doesn't sting sometimes. Like now - the first Thanksgiving without my mother around. And the first Thanksgiving where I wasn't leaving for Florida Thanksgiving night to spend time with the (now ex) boyfriend. So, I am really alone. What's my point, you ask?? Well, just that it's OK to be alone sometimes and even lonely. But we all need to make effort to find good friends we can count on and if we are lucky perhaps someone to love us. It happens at different times for all of us and sometimes it takes longer than we would like - there are just some things that we cannot control...................
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Post# 9586-11/21/2001-22:03 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring detergent)
MESSAGE: Well, I'm certainly shocked enough to be on my fainting couch while my dressing maid dabs my fevered brow with a scented cloth.............. Now where is my opera fan - I seem to be having an attack of the vapors!
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Post# 9587-11/21/2001-22:05 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving
MESSAGE: Rich - DO NOT seal up the nest. The little scavenging monsters will just eat their way through the other side. You do not want them getting into the house. Happened to a friend of mine with yellow jackets - - it was NOT pretty.
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Post# 9588-11/21/2001-22:10 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Your move, Bob)
MESSAGE: Bob - I support Tom's comments. That first step is so frightening, but so necessary. I understand how you feel about small town homophobia - but surely you cannot be the only one. You are pretty near Waco if I am not mistaken - perhaps there are some connections there. I have no answers for you, but I know it ain't gonna come a knocking at your door!! But you can only do this successfully when YOU are ready.
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Post# 9589-11/21/2001-22:12 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: A note on Thanksgiving
MESSAGE: Everyone is doing that you know - it is all the rage..............
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Post# 9590-11/21/2001-22:15 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: A note on Thanksgiving
MESSAGE: Thanks for the reminder on that - My parents loved to do that and I had completely forgotten about it - it really was delicious.......................
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Post# 9591-11/21/2001-22:19 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT:
Thanksgiving holiday wishes
MESSAGE: Just a brief note to bid everyone a great holiday. Enjoy....but not too much!!
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Post# 9592-11/21/2001-22:21 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring your heart out)
MESSAGE: And being alone or lonely makes us appreciate and not take for granted the time spent with that special someone when he/she comes along.
It should also help us to appreciate our friends too. True friends will always be there when things are going good and when you need a shoulder to cry on. No matter how simple or complex the problem may seem, a true friend will be there in your time of need.
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Post# 9593-11/21/2001-22:23 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Agitator Kit Part Number Search (1-18 Agitator)
MESSAGE: Hi Rich, when I return home to the library o' washing I will look up the number of the 1-18 Agitator for you if no one else has that number before next week.
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Post# 9594-11/21/2001-22:24 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
Thanksgiving Wishes
MESSAGE: I, too want to wish all of you club members a safe and Happy Thanksgiving. In spite of the year some of us had individually and the country had as a whole, there is still so much we still have to appreciate. I always enjoy the Dear Abby (or is it Ann Landers?) Thanksgiving day column where we are reminded how fortunate we all are. It is a good read and quite relevant. I know my holiday will have some rough spots, but I am grateful for the friends and neighbors who have watched over me this year. It really does make a difference.....
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Post# 9595-11/21/2001-22:24 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis, Minnesota)
SUBJECT:
RE: Thanksgiving holiday wishes
MESSAGE: you too Leslie...enjoy!
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Post# 9596-11/21/2001-22:25 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring your heart out)
MESSAGE: Excellent point!
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Post# 9597-11/21/2001-22:30 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Your move, Bob)
MESSAGE: Tom is right Bob. I was raised in this little homo hating hick town but eventually I had to come out so I could be myself. And guess what, I didn't loose anything, I gained everything. Most importantly, the freedom to be who I am. Ok, well maybe I didn't come out on my own, that is another story, but after all was said and done it was one of the best things that ever happened in my life...so far.
From what I have been told, the Quotes page on my site has helped a lot of people deal with things....maybe you should read it.
LINK: http://web.tampabay.rr.com/jasonspages/quotes.html
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Post# 9598-11/21/2001-22:32 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Thanksgiving holiday wishes
MESSAGE: Hi Leslie and everyone else here in Applianceville, Happy Thanksgiving. We made it to Florida safe and sound. But OY, I'm not used to an old fashioned 56k modem. It's like going back to a wringer washer after using an automatic for a while.
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Post# 9599-11/21/2001-22:32 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: A note on Thanksgiving
MESSAGE: A Weber would be good. I use a big egg-shaped Kingsford BBQ/roaster I got years ago. It does take some careful apportioning of the fuel and adjustment of the vents to get the temp just right, but when it works, it works great. It also tends to cook whole chicken or turkey about twice as fast as in a regular oven, with more tender results. Yum!
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Post# 9600-11/21/2001-22:33 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT:
Happy Thanksgiving one and all!!
MESSAGE: I would like to wish everyone here a Very Happy and safe Thanksgiving. After all that has happened this past year we all have much to be thankful for. It has been just a little over a year since I discovered this group and I am very grateful for all of you. Terry
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Post# 9601-11/21/2001-22:35 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving one and all!!
MESSAGE: Hi Terry Happy T-day to you too. By the way, the Pink GE vacuum is in the mail to you, you should have it some time next week.
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Post# 9602-11/21/2001-22:35 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Thanksgiving holiday wishes
MESSAGE: At least you got real 'lectric down there Robert.
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Post# 9603-11/21/2001-22:37 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis, Minnesota)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving one and all!!
MESSAGE: Enjoy your holiday Terry!
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Post# 9604-11/21/2001-22:38 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis, Minnesota)
SUBJECT:
RE: Thanksgiving holiday wishes
MESSAGE: Hi Sweetie, hope you have a nice holiday, even if you have to cook your turkey over an open fire in the backyard. ;-)
I, too, have always found your quotes page to be both amusing and thought provoking/meaningful, and it looks like you have expanded it since last I peeked!
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Post# 9605-11/21/2001-22:39 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving one and all!! (Thanks so Much Robert!!)
MESSAGE: That is really great Robert. I will be watching for it. Let me know what I owe you for shipping and I will get a check off to you. Enjoy the time with your family and the warm Florida sun. Thanks again for your generosity. Terry
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Post# 9606-11/21/2001-22:41 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis, Minnesota)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving one and all!! (Thanks so Much Robert!!)
MESSAGE: Won't you look smart with your new pink Reach Easy cleaner for your holiday preparations! ;-)
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Post# 9607-11/21/2001-22:44 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving (harvest yellow jackets)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the advice, but too late, Angus! I already sealed it up. As I told another, even if these guys (I mean ladies) chew their way out, they'll wind up in an enclosed patio, not in the house. It would be unpleasant but manageable. I'm also planning on drilling small holes into their space from below and injecting insecticide via a tube from there into their nesting space. If need bee. :-)
I don't think the nest can be very big because they just started building it in the past month or so.
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Post# 9608-11/21/2001-22:45 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis, Minnesota)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving (harvest yellow jackets)
MESSAGE: ...or "Sunny" Yellow Jackets, as the case may be ... :-)
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Post# 9609-11/21/2001-22:45 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving (One word: KILL!)
MESSAGE: Kill kill kill!
Wasps are the taliban of the animal kingdom. Bees are wonderful because they make honey. Wasps on the other hand are evil.
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Post# 9610-11/21/2001-22:46 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis, Minnesota)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving (One word: KILL!)
MESSAGE: Wasps on *either* hand are evil, for that matter! :-)
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Post# 9611-11/21/2001-22:48 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (exactly)
MESSAGE: That's one thing I am thankful for is the group of friends I'm with now. They're supportive and they're making me more comfortable around others. I'm not gay but I do have to "come out of the closet" in a way. I have to come out and not be afraid of being around people which I'm doing lots better now than a few years ago.
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Post# 9612-11/21/2001-22:50 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Thanksgiving holiday wishes (56k)
MESSAGE: When I moved into my trailer I went from ADSL to 56k.. That's like having a Unimatic taken away and forced to use a Kenmore. Nothing against Kenmore because I grew up with them, mind you, but they're SLOWWWWW
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Post# 9613-11/21/2001-23:00 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving (One word: KILL!)
MESSAGE: Well, although I dislike them also, I have to admire how well designed wasps are for their niche. Strong fliers, relatively smart, social when they need to be, tough as nails, and they can certainly defend themselves. I view them more as incompatible housemates, than as evil. Irreconcilable differences. Entomental cruelty.
I got stung once by a yellow jacket. On a finger. Totally unprovoked, I was sitting there talking. Finger swelled up to twice its size. Little bugger.
I'm hoping sealing them up won't backfire. Although I can't be certain, I believe the area they are nesting in is about the size of a large shoebox, and contained. I shot enough insecticide in there that it should do them all in from the fumes. If not, well, I need to replace some ceiling tiles in that area anyway...
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Post# 9614-11/21/2001-23:00 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Thanksgiving holiday wishes
MESSAGE: Thank you Scott. There is always something being added to that page.
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Post# 9615-11/21/2001-00:21 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Thanksgiving holiday wishes
MESSAGE: Lovely Thanksgiving wishes to all! And safe thoughts for those taking trips out-of-town.
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Post# 9616-11/21/2001-00:29 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Agitator Kit Part Number Search
MESSAGE: I'm amazed you can still get those agitators! Is this a new "old stock" part or coming from Frigidaire?
I have parts books for the 50's & 60's, but don't know if I do for the 70's 1-18 machines, but I will look for you tomorrow. My parents are sleeping in the appliance library/guest room tonight!
Have a great Thanksgiving! Greg
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Post# 9617-11/21/2001-00:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving
MESSAGE: Glad to see you online Scott! Have a safe trip to your parent's and a grand Thanksgiving!
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Post# 9618-11/21/2001-00:31 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Thanksgiving holiday wishes
MESSAGE: Gobble gobble!
Have a great day everyone!!
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Post# 9619-11/21/2001-00:36 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis, Minnesota)
SUBJECT:
RE: Thanksgiving holiday wishes
MESSAGE: And a very happy holiday to you too Glenn!
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Post# 9620-11/21/2001-00:36 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis, Minnesota)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg! Happy Thanksgiving to you too! :)
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Post# 9621-11/22/2001-02:00 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving ((Your move, Bob))
MESSAGE: I too want to wish everyone here a special happy thanksgiving. So many of you mean so very much to me and I'm very thankful for knowing you online and many from in person at our convention.
And Tom, BTW, I AM going to my friends Max & Kirk's for dinner tomorrow. This will be my presentation to the local community. Thus, I imagine hopeful new contacts and possibly some friendships. OKAY?????
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Post# 9622-11/22/2001-02:07 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Your move, Bob)
MESSAGE: A reminder Anthony, I am not able to drive out of town. So, even Waco is out of the question.
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Post# 9623-11/22/2001-04:55 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
Happy Thanksgiving!!!
MESSAGE: Hi all
Wishing you a Happy Thanksgiving from little old UK...
Peace and Joy and Mouthfuls of Martha!!!!
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 9624-11/22/2001-06:38 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving (wasps :-()
MESSAGE: I had a bad reaction to a sting when I was little requiring a trip to the emergency room. I don't like wasps either, but enjoy watching honey bees work on the flowers. I read a true account of a bee keeper who died and the day of his funeral, all the bees in his hives showed up at the church. They covered the outside walls and many came in and rested on the floral arrangements then they all left. No body was stung, but everyone was shocked at what happened.
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Post# 9625-11/22/2001-06:41 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: A note on Thanksgiving (deep fried turkeys)
MESSAGE: John was wondering about the impact on the environment of all of that used cooking oil being disposed of.
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Post# 9626-11/22/2001-06:48 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring your heart out)
MESSAGE: The first holidays without loved ones are rough. The first year is rough and the second one almost worse. I feel great sympathy for anyone who has to go through this. It is 16 years since my brother's death and I still miss him.
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Post# 9627-11/22/2001-06:55 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Agitator Kit Part Number Search (1-18 Agitator)
MESSAGE: Hey Robert, How are you two liking warm sunny Florida? Enjoy it a bit for me, please and have a wonderful time. Tom
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Post# 9628-11/22/2001-07:01 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Thanksgiving holiday wishes
MESSAGE: Robert, your wallpaper is of the first portable dishwasher I ever actually saw used. We were in Jacksonville, FL and went to one of Daddy's associate's beach house. All I remember about the family is that they seemed to have lots of kids, but after dinner they loaded this dishwasher and my parents and I watched. The people we were visiting just loved the machine and I guess it planted the seed in my parents' thoughts to get one a couple of years later.
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Post# 9629-11/22/2001-07:03 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring your heart out)
MESSAGE: This is what I've experienced my whole life. I've had girlfriends but NEVER on Christmas or Valentine's day. They leave too soon.
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Post# 9630-11/22/2001-08:22 ||| trainguy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
RE: Agitator Kit Part Number Search (1-18 Agitator)
MESSAGE: Robert, Glad you made it to Florida safely. Thanks for looking up the kit number for me. I probably should wait until next week to see the guy again anyway. If I stop in to his place too often, he gets very agitated. He's got the books, he just won't look anything up. Happy Thanksgiving. Rich
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Post# 9631-11/22/2001-08:39 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Agitator Kit Part Number Search (1-18 Agitator)
MESSAGE: It's just beautful here in Stewart,FL Tom. Not that much warmer than at home, since we've were still running around in shorts last weekend in November. But its always nice to get away.
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Post# 9632-11/22/2001-08:39 ||| trainguy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
RE: Agitator Kit Part Number Search
MESSAGE: Greg, this is NOS in the original Dayton, Ohio box. This guy has been selling and repairing Frigidaire, Maytag and Crosley since the late 30s. He has all his certificates that say 'Authorized' something or other hanging around his doorways. He still has 2 brand new Maytag wringer washers in their original shipping crates! His store is filled from floor to ceiling with only a pathway through the showroom. The back of his building is even fuller with parts, books, literature, etc., but NO ONE is allowed back there. I have purchased about 100 new in the original box parts over the years. If I stop more often than every other month, he gets very upset. He is very, very moody and quite eccentric.
His nephew says that I'm the only person who ever comes in for old parts. He said that when his uncle passes on to that great big appliance store in the sky, that I can buy him out lock, stock and barrel. I would just love to get my hands on some original parts books and service guides, but I guess I'll have to wait.
Thanks for the note and Happy Thanksgiving to you, too. Rich
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Post# 9633-11/22/2001-08:40 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Thanksgiving holiday wishes (GE Mobile Maid Dishwasher)
MESSAGE: Thats a really neat looking Dishwasher, I think Donald in New Haven has one of those GE Mobile Maids in his collection.
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Post# 9634-11/22/2001-08:48 ||| trainguy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring your heart out)
MESSAGE: Jason, I have two coworkers with a similar story. One guy goes through the same thing as you do. The other guy always seems to get a girlfriend just before a holiday. He buys her an expensive gift and she leaves him once the holiday is over.
These stories make me thankful that I have been with my significant other for nearly 15 years and couldn't imagine going through the dating scene again.
Don't fret, though. I'm sure Ms Right will come along for you probably when you least expect it. And it will be worth the wait. Rich
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Post# 9635-11/22/2001-09:45 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring your heart out)
MESSAGE: Well, yes, but what I was referring to was Angus' being without his mother because of her death earlier this year. Celebrating holidays brings back memories of loved ones no longer with us and can make them really sad. Not that I am putting your case in any kind of second class status. When we are by ourselves and meet someone, we often plan to celebrate events with them and when they are not there for the celebration, it is a downer.
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Post# 9636-11/22/2001-09:51 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Agitator Kit Part Number Search (1-18 Agitator)
MESSAGE: Robert, you are not that far from Vero, where I used to have so much fun on the beach. The east coast has some beautiful beaches and great surf. Recharge, relax and enjoy.
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Post# 9637-11/22/2001-09:53 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Thanksgiving holiday wishes (GE Mobile Maid Dishwasher)
MESSAGE: Imperial Bob had one also and sold it.
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Post# 9638-11/22/2001-09:53 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Thanksgiving holiday wishes (GE Mobile Maid Dishwasher)
MESSAGE: I have the builtin version of that design in turquoise.
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Post# 9639-11/22/2001-11:20 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
Listen!!!!....
MESSAGE: It's the sound of gas jets hissing, electric thermostat clicking on & off, electric surface units creaking & clicking on & off, and lastly, the gentle humming or whiring & swishing or absolute freight train noise with water---the dishwassher running. IT'S THANKSGIVING!!!!! and appliances are being used everywhere!!!!!!
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Post# 9640-11/22/2001-11:28 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
Happy Thaniksgiving
MESSAGE: A little late because I couldn't post yesterday, but I want to wish everybody a wonderful and happy Thanksgiving.
Louis
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Post# 9641-11/22/2001-11:34 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Thanksgiving holiday wishes (GE Mobile Maid Dishwasher)
MESSAGE: Robert, who/when can somebody digitize photos of Donal's collection. This isn't the first time this has been referenced. I'm dying with curiousity with what he has!!
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Post# 9642-11/22/2001-11:40 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis, Minnesota)
SUBJECT:
RE: A note on Thanksgiving (deep fried turkeys)
MESSAGE: Never thought of that....I wonder how much oil one of those things holds...my mom always strains and recycles her deep fryer oil; even the standard Sunbeam takes a fair amount.
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Post# 9643-11/22/2001-11:45 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis, Minnesota)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thaniksgiving
MESSAGE: Thank you Louis! I will drop you a line soon. Scott
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Post# 9644-11/22/2001-11:46 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving (wasps :-()
MESSAGE: Well, as an avid gardener, I love bees also. My fruit trees and many veggies depend on them. At least the non-Africanized variety, which haven't made their way up this far north yet. European honey bees, Apis mellifera, are generally pretty gently and one has to really annoy them or threaten their hive in order to get stung.
Interesting story about the beekeeper's funeral. I studied entomology when I was in high school and college, but I can't explain why the bees would have swarmed that way.
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Post# 9645-11/22/2001-11:46 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: A note on Thanksgiving (deep fried turkeys)
MESSAGE: Well, there are companies that turn used cooking oil into diesel fuel. It's supposed to work better than the real thing.
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Post# 9646-11/22/2001-11:51 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring your heart out)
MESSAGE: Well, I can relate to that. I had a very unpleasant experience on the commuter train on Tuesday that still has me upset. I had been debating on what to do for Thanksgiving. I had been invited out but I was just going to spend it at home, working on the house, cooking a turkey, alone. Then I decided to accept the invitation, to dine with some wonderful people, even though it will mean driving for more than a few hours, perhaps in the rain. The house and turkey (and the wasps!) can just wait.
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Post# 9647-11/22/2001-11:56 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring your heart out)
MESSAGE: The holidays - Thanksgiving through New Years - are generally notorious for high depression, suicide, and death rates. I think part of it has to do with the changing weather and shorter days. Less sunlight, more time indoors, having to adjust to closer quarters and less mobility. It hits everyone, but we all react differently. What I try to keep in mind, is, you can't always control what happens to you, but you can, if you put your mind - or heart - to it, you can control how you react to it. And your reaction can make all the difference. It sounds corny, but every cloud has a silver lining and a positive feeling not only makes life more enjoyable, but also may give one a few more years on the planet.
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Post# 9648-11/22/2001-11:58 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis, Minnesota)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving!!!
MESSAGE: Cheers Mikey, and you have a wonderful visit with your sister! I forgot to ask you if she has room for a pony at her new "estate"
-Hyacinth B.
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Post# 9649-11/22/2001-12:19 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving!!!
MESSAGE: Scot, it purely is nice to see you horsing around here again. Even if it is to indirectly kick the "Bucket" woman around a bit.
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Post# 9650-11/22/2001-13:09 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving!!! (Horesplay!!)
MESSAGE: Hey Bob
You leave my sis out of this!!!!!otherwise it stallions at dawn....
Mike
p.s Are you on Turkey tonight, hows the food going etc.. hope all is well...
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Post# 9651-11/22/2001-13:10 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving!!!
MESSAGE: Hi Scott
No pony just a slate quarry in her back yard!!!!
enjoy the festivities....
Mike
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Post# 9652-11/22/2001-16:12 ||| rapidry1000 (San Francisco)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving one and all!! (Happy Thanksgiving)
MESSAGE: To all the club members - Happy Thanksgiving!
rapidry1000
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Post# 9653-11/22/2001-17:56 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: A note on Thanksgiving (recycled grease makes diesel fuel/bees)
MESSAGE: What you said about the diesel is true. The Beltsville Agricultural Research Center which surrounds our neighborhood had a trial of this new duel on part of the fleet of farm vehicles and machinery. Within two weeks, the whole fleet was switched over because of the superior performance, but how many homeowners are going to contact one of those commercial grease recyclers that pick up behind restuarants?
As for the bees at the funeral, the only way it was explained was that animals sense death and since this man had kept bees all his life, they somehow were attuned to him and knew when he died. I know bees don't live that long, but there was some chemical message or something about him that they shared generation to generation.
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Post# 9654-11/22/2001-21:03 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Thanksgiving holiday wishes (GE Mobile Maid Dishwasher)
MESSAGE: Next time I get to New York City I will ask Donald if I can photographic his washer collection.
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Post# 9655-11/22/2001-21:06 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Agitator Kit Part Number Search (1-18 Agitator)
MESSAGE: Thanks Tom, we're going to go down to Miami tomorrow and have some Cuban cusine and look for the remants of old South Florida Frigidaire Laundromats, there used to be hundreds of them down here with Unimatics and Super-Duty coin op machines.
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Post# 9656-11/22/2001-21:08 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Thanksgiving holiday wishes (GE Mobile Maid Dishwasher)
MESSAGE: Out of sheer curiosity Tom, who did Imperial Bob sell that 50's GE Mobile Maid Dishwasher to?
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Post# 9657-11/22/2001-21:12 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Listen!!!!.... (Thanksgiving and Appliances)
MESSAGE: YAY for all the appliances (vintage and modern) running on Thanksgiving Day. It would be really neat to get a count of how many 1950s vintage dishwashers (by brand name) are left installed and running in kitchens across the world and were run today. I wonder who would come in first, probably KitchenAid, but I bet the total numbers will be really low. Anyway, just an interesting appliance related thought for turkey day.
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Post# 9658-11/22/2001-21:24 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Listen!!!!.... (I can hear it!)
MESSAGE: I was at my cousin's house and the 80s Kenmore DW was singing its song. The Frigmore's water pump has a soothing hum like a dishwasher. One thing I do miss about my dishwasher is the noises.
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Post# 9659-11/22/2001-21:28 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring your heart out)
MESSAGE: Well, I do have to be careful because I do get that depression and loneliness during the holidays. I have to stay focused and not let my feelings take control of me like it almost did a few years ago when I lost my girlfriend.
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Post# 9660-11/22/2001-21:31 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Listen!!!!.... (gas jets)
MESSAGE: The Turkey was cooked in a 1965 Tappan gas oven (just as it has been since it was new). Kinda neat to see the oven cook the turkey year after year.
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Post# 9661-11/22/2001-21:48 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring your heart out)
MESSAGE: Sometimes, Rich, a break like that for the day is just what's needed. I hope you went and enjoyed the day. Funny - I actually thought of passing on my invitation today also. But I made a judgement call and figured that if there was one place I should be it was with the neighbors and friends with whom my family has celebrated Thanksgiving for 36 years. I am glad I did. I will not say that the day did not have a few potholes in it and everyone shed a few tears at different moments - but the tradition was comforting and reassuring. And as for the wasps, the little criminals can wait another day for their demise..............
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Post# 9662-11/22/2001-21:51 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Agitator Kit Part Number Search (1-18 Agitator)
MESSAGE: Sounds like a true adventure. I will be interested to hear what you have found. My ex is in Ft. Lauderdale, and I always kept my eyes open for laundromats with either Frigidaire or Westinghouse Laundromat machines, but alas, no luck..........
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Post# 9663-11/22/2001-22:53 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Thanksgiving holiday wishes (GE Mobile Maid Dishwasher)
MESSAGE: Thanks Robert. Ask Donald very nicely. Mention I'm very curious. I always wanna see everyone's collection. It so fascinating. And tell him I will be eternally grateful if he allows you to photo it.
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Post# 9664-11/22/2001-00:03 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring your heart out)
MESSAGE: Anthony, I'm glad you went too. I thought about you today, so I was trying to send strong vibes too you. Bob
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Post# 9665-11/22/2001-00:52 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: A note on Thanksgiving (recycled grease makes diesel fuel/bees)
MESSAGE: My local garbage pickup will take gallon containers of used motor oil. I don't know if they would take used vegetable oil, but it's a possibility. Give it time; if there is enough demand, then someone will make recycling vegetable oil more convenient for homeowners. It can also be made into a quality soap at home.
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Post# 9666-11/22/2001-00:57 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Listen!!!!.... (Thanksgiving and Appliances)
MESSAGE: I'm just back from Modesto. My hosts have a vintage Kitchenaid dishwasher with a porcelain interior - light speckled gray. The hostess talked about replacing it if it every broke down. I told here to call me and I'd pay her for it if she ever wanted to part with it. Does this mean I have a vintage applaince dependency?
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Post# 9667-11/22/2001-01:03 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Making the holidays more bearable)
MESSAGE: Good for you. Little things can help - like setting up some very bright lights in a room and spending some time in there when it's dark and overcast. I find it can also help to celebrate a holiday on a different day than the actual holiday. Such as, meeting with friends and family the day before or after the holiday. It can take a lot of the stress away. I don't know quite why, but it seems to work for me.
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Post# 9668-11/22/2001-01:06 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Grim Reaper is coming for the GE (Pouring your heart out)
MESSAGE: Thanks, I did have a good time. The hostess is a good cook, and I enjoy the company of her family. The drive out there kind of sucked, but when one freeway got jammed, I took an alternate route, and was rewarded with a nice drive down a country road lined by orchards changing color and showing signs of recent pruning. My hosts later told me the road is the local "blood alley". But today it was just fine for me.
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Post# 9669-11/23/2001-02:25 ||| madigan (Santa Ana CA)
SUBJECT:
Happy Holidays to all... and to all a good night!
MESSAGE: Man - go into a "coma" for a few days and just look at what develops!!
Evil ex's, Unimatic training courses, GE dream kitchens - almost more than I can take!
Wishing everyone the best of the season (whatever that might be - for it is REALLY subject to individual interpretation!), and, for those who feel it - I say, hang in there, the days will start getting longer soon! Seems whenever the clocks are set back, I want to go into hibernation, which doesn't sit well with the rest of the world...
At least I have my laundry to keep me warm (?!?)
jjm
(and Santa, please bring me an A900 - pretty please?!? I can be very, VERY good...)
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Post# 9670-11/23/2001-06:15 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Thanksgiving holiday wishes (GE Mobile Maid Dishwasher)
MESSAGE: A couple bought it at the Georgetown Flea Market.
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Post# 9671-11/23/2001-11:37 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Listen!!!!.... (Thanksgiving and Appliances)
MESSAGE: My hosts' vintage KA dishwasher is a very nice unit, but I did notice that it is quite loud in operation. Not quite as loud as a freight train, but considerably louder than my '97 FriGEdaire, which I regard as a noisy beastie.
They also had a vintage Kenmore bottom freezer fridge unit, which they put in the garage for overflow storage. The freezer door, alas, looks slighly sprung as the gasket is not sealing all the way around.
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Post# 9672-11/23/2001-12:17 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Listen!!!!.... (Thanksgiving and Appliances)
MESSAGE: Rich, depending upon how "vintage" this KA was, as in what model series, with the blue speckle porcelain, it does sound quite old. Yeah, to me old KAs sounded like freight trains running through the kitchen while they were filling with water and draining. Once pump was filled with required water, it really wan't that noisy.
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Post# 9673-11/23/2001-16:55 ||| nmaineman36 (Portland Maine)
SUBJECT:
New Frigidaire washer
MESSAGE: Hey everyone just thought that i would drop a line here. Devildaddy's GE finally bit the dust. The transmission let go and there was alot of oil on the floor. The gears sounded like they were stripped and there was no arc at all in the machine. So since I was in Albany this past weekend we went on a washer hunt. We looked at the new Frigidaire F/L and fell in love with it. The model is a 2002 GLTR1670ASO which is the Gallery top of the line I think. I couldnt believe the price he paid for it $569.00 plus tax. I thought that it was a great deal and he went for it. I have to say I do love this machine. We picked it up today and I installed it with Charlie's help.
He loves how quiet it is and I cant believe how much they improved it. That last spin is long at fast spin. Not that burst of spin that I had in my frigidaire that my ex has. I like this machine enough to think about going to get one for myself.
Mike
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Post# 9674-11/23/2001-17:03 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Frigidaire washer
MESSAGE: Mike, I'm so glad Charlie made that decision. I was hoping this would be the machine he'd get, if a new one. I picked up from a post on THS that another guy, who''s a member of the club now, had an a Frigidaire that the hose came undone and flooded his house. Frigidaire replaced it with a new 2002 model. He said the 2002 model also puts 1/2" more water in the tub too, and we all know it oculd stand a bit more water. (Just like the Neppy 7500 increased water--gee I wonder where Frig got that idea). Anyway super kewl. Hugs to you both.
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Post# 9675-11/23/2001-18:00 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Frigidaire washer
MESSAGE: Congrats to all concerned on the new FL. He should really see a drop in the water bill and faster dryer performance like Jason noted. Except for the oil on the floor, this is quite a lot to be thankful for. A new, or different, or another washer is such a happy event. YAY!
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Post# 9676-11/23/2001-20:47 ||| Devildaddy (Troy NY)
SUBJECT:
Whole lotta shakin' goin' on
MESSAGE: Okay, you've already heard of the passing of the GE and my purchase of a front-loading Frigidaire. Love the washer except for one thing - vibration on spin cycle. Imagine my horror when I walked into the laundry room and caught the GE dryer having sex with the Frigidaire. The washer vibrated so much that the dryer walked over to it. I also feel a lot of vibration in my PC room, on the other side of the wall from the laundry room. Mikey (nMaineMan) suggested that I put plywood underneath or maybe have the floor reinforced. I live in a modular which traveled at speeds up to 80 mph on the NY Thruway and was craned onto a foundation, so I believe the house is extremely well built. I suggested a spring-loaded platform for it. Anyone have any other suggestions? Mike says to remind you that we believe we got ALL the brackets and suspension doohickeys out.
---Charlie
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Post# 9677-11/23/2001-20:56 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whole lotta shakin' goin' on
MESSAGE: Charlie, there are some articles on That Home Site's Appliance Forum about reinforcing floors that aid in some vibration--i.e. 2nd floor laundry rooms and 1st floor laundry rooms above basements. I'll go through & see where they are and either email you the links or post them here. Anything for Mikey's other half. Bob
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Post# 9678-11/23/2001-21:25 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whole lotta shakin' goin' on
MESSAGE: Congratulations on the new FL. I do have my usual annoying question, though. Will you be making any overtures to GE for reimbursement? I certainly hope you will......
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Post# 9679-11/23/2001-22:03 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Frigidaire washer
MESSAGE: Bob,
Actually I think the Neptune 7500 decreased the water levels over previous models. The water level measured at the rear of the drum with no clothes for the Neptune 3000 through 5500 a models is 3-4 inches for the wash, and 4-5 inches for the rinse. The water level for the Neptune 5500b and 7500 is 2-3 inches for the wash, and 3-4 inches for the rinse. Total consumption on average is the same for all models: 25 gallons per cycle. I don't know if this means the 5500b/7500 outer drum is larger, so it holds more water, or if these machines added an extra rinse, to account for the lack of change in total water consumption despite the lower water levels. In any case, the machines wash and rinse just fine with their reduced water levels.
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Post# 9680-11/23/2001-22:06 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whole lotta shakin' goin' on
MESSAGE: Congrats on the new FL.
Whatever you do, do *not* put the thing on a spring. It will turn into the pogo stick from hell! Your modular may be built very strong but it may also flex more than the FL is designed for. Beefing up the area under the laundry with 3/4 inch plywood, screwed firmly to the floor joists, is a very good idea. If you have a crawl space, you may also want to look into adding some 4x4's on concrete foundation blocks under the washer/dryer area to help reduce the old up 'n down motion. You can also wash smaller loads - full loads vibate more than medium loads in my Neptune.
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Post# 9681-11/23/2001-22:12 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whole lotta shakin' goin' on
MESSAGE: Do the same as I advised Jason L to do, although I don't know if he went that far.
If you can crawl under the house add some 2X6 or 2X4 floor joists to the existing joists and maybe an extra piling under the area. Then cut a piece of 3/4 inch plywood the size of the washer and use 3 inch deck screws to hold the plywood to the floor joists. Make sure you tighten the lock nuts on the washer legs. That should take care of the problem.
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Post# 9682-11/23/2001-22:22 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving (Mother of all wasp wars)
MESSAGE: Well, Angus, you were right, of course. The yellow jackets ("YJ's" from now on) are finding their way into the enclosed patio. Of course, they were doing that before I sealed off their outer entrance. But at least I was able to do the work on the eaves next to the nest entrance today without getting bothered much. A few YJ's came by but I had a can of mint oil bug spray handy to zap them, and they would leave pretty quick. I also sealed off some of the gaps in the ceiling inside the patio, which seemed to help.
Back to the patio. I finally got the eaves work finished all around the house (continuous soffit vents), and sure enough just as I was sweeping up and putting the last tools away, it was dark and starting to sprinkle. I turned my attention to the YJ problem. If I turned off the pond pump (it's right outside the patio) I could actually hear the YJ's buzzing around inside the patio ceiling. So I had a brainstorm. I modified a hornet bug bomb sprayer to hold a small tube. I put a 90 degree angle in the tube, so it pointed straight up. I drilled a 3/32" hole in the center of each 12x12 ceiling tile where I could hear the YJ's buzzing - and a few more tiles around them. Then I injected each hole with a good dose of "Real Kill" wasp killer. After about 15 minutes, the buzzing ceased.
I have to replace these tiles anyway, due to old water damage from the nearby leaking skylight. It will be interesting when I do if I can see what the nest looks like. Of course I will make sure *all* the YJ's are dead before I do that! What a pain in the neck these things are. I wish I had thought of sealing up that chink in the join between the patio roof and the stucco house wall last year, when I was doing other work in that area. I never thought YJ's would use it as a nesting area. I was more concerned about squirrels, and the hole is too small for them.
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Post# 9683-11/23/2001-22:45 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whole lotta shakin' goin' on
MESSAGE: Feeling a bit left out? I would think that the Frigidaire would have better taste than a GE dryer.
It really shouldn't be doing that - esp. on a concrete foundation. I'm sure you've got the machine leveled, so that's not it. Does it vibrate just at the start of the spin or all the way through? All the time?
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Post# 9684-11/23/2001-22:51 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving (Mother of all wasp wars)
MESSAGE: You might want to repeat that treatment before you open the cavity. The wasps still in the pupa stage will not all be killed by the spray and will need killing afterthey emerge. I still remember a friend's father bringing a nest he had gassed into the house to show us and the horror with which we viewed new wasps emerging. His wife had a few choice comments about his usual lack of brains for bringing any wasp's nest inside.
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Post# 9685-11/23/2001-23:09 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving (Whole lotta buzzin' going on)
MESSAGE: Good point. I hadn't planned on tearing out the ceiling for a few months, after which the current YJ's should all be deceased.
I recall having to deal with a small mud dauber nest a few years ago - it was outside at another house. I was amazed at how many sprayings it took to kill all of them. They kept on emerging for a week or two. I guess the wood pulp nest material kept the pupae protected from the spray.
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Post# 9686-11/23/2001-01:12 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis, Minnesota)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving!!!
MESSAGE: Thank you Bob. After a nice couple of days with my family, I'm back home to all the comforts, including my white pushbutton slimline telephone with redial facility. ;-)
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Post# 9687-11/24/2001-06:52 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Frigidaire washer (had to replace my FL frigidaire)
MESSAGE: my 5 year old Frigidaire gallery died a horrible death about a month ago ... the assembly that holds the wash drum on just rotted away and in the process in the final high speed spin carved a grove in the outer tub. Electrolux and I are having a disagreement about the warrranty. It seems that they will not replace the parts unless an approved repairman does the work.
I have replaced it with the Crown series line and love the high speed spin and washes much better with the sure temp controls
I will let ya'll know how the fight ends up
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Post# 9688-11/24/2001-07:19 ||| devildaddy (Troy NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whole lotta shakin' goin' on (Floor structure)
MESSAGE: Just to clear things up for everybody...
House has a full basement and is constructed using a truss floor joist system. The floor shaking seems limited to just the laundry room, which is 5x8. I can no longer feel the shaking in my computer room, which is LITERALLY on the other side of the wall from the washer. Mikey and I thought of getting rubber feet for the dryer to keep it from moving. Also, he mentioned that there were BOTH rollers and adjustable legs in the rear of the washer - currently it's only sitting on the rollers, so we're going to make the legs contact the floor.
Not to sound ignorant or anything, but would the plywood be placed UNDERNEATH the flooring? Would it work if I screwed the plywood to the truss system? I'd hate to mess up the look of the laundry room by placing a piece under the washer.
I've sent a link to a quick page I whipped up this morning while Mikey was snoring away. I apologize for the huge resolution (1024x768) as well as the lack of natural light in the laundry room. Better pics will come some day.
And last but not least, thanks to all who've taken the time thus far to offer their solutions to the shaking problem.
---Charlie
LINK: http://geocities.com/devildaddy1/frigidairewasher.htm
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Post# 9689-11/24/2001-09:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whole lotta shakin' goin' on (Floor structure)
MESSAGE: Congrats on the new washer and thanks for the pics - very nice machine you have there.
I would try extending the washer's feet to the floor and leveling with those before adding additional support to the flooring/joists. If you do have to add a plywood base to the floor, it can be painted or covered with vinyl flooring to match your current floor if available.
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Post# 9690-11/24/2001-10:12 ||| appliguy (Vienna Va.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving!!! (Oh Hyacinth)
MESSAGE: Let me guess....you had Thanksgiving at your sister Violet's Estate ......I know Violet ...she's the one with the Mercedes and room for a pony. Did you use your Royal Dalton with handpainted perriwinkles for the Thanksgiving dinner table? Sounds like you had a nice Turkey day Scott I hope it was a very happy day for you and your family as well as eveyone in Applianceville.
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Post# 9691-11/24/2001-10:29 ||| trainguy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
Extra Part?
MESSAGE: I am starting the rebuild on the '73 LK transmission and have an extra part. It's as round as a dime with the thickness of a nickel. I have looked through the two '57 LK restoration slide shows again. I see its transmission apart but don't see this part. Also, my centerpost shaft is extremely rusty. After I clean it, am I supposed to use primer and some special paint? Thanks, Rich
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Post# 9692-11/24/2001-11:16 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Extra Part?
MESSAGE: That piece goes under the agitator shaft. There is a ball (thrust ball) that sits in the hole for the shaft, then the flat washer (thrust bearing) that goes over the ball.
The center post should be sanded and treated with rust preventer primer and then painted with a rust resisting paint.
When you put the outer tub in make sure you put lots of silicone sealant around the the center post seal and the tub drain. Also put a nice bead around all the tub mounting holes.
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Post# 9693-11/24/2001-11:51 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Frigidaire washer (had to replace my FL frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Philippe, sorry about the premature death. I wonder if this is what scottdamnit means when referring to what he's seen of frigidaire's problems in the field.
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Post# 9694-11/24/2001-11:54 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis, Minnesota)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving!!! (Oh Hyacinth)
MESSAGE: That sounds pretty close to the celebration we had! :-) Though it was a bit of a challenge making sure the grandchildren did not mark any walls or wallpaper. It was a very nice holiday, and in fact the grandchildren and their parents are still there, and my quite creative mother is teaching them to paint and do some crafts, and they're making gifts for parents and friends. I'm back home now, off to do some shopping and perhaps take in a movie and dinner. Have a great day!
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Post# 9695-11/24/2001-12:02 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Frigidaire washer (had to replace my FL frigidaire)
MESSAGE: <<
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This is not a problem i've found in the field. However frigidaire's baseframes are thin and flimsy and very prone to rust and corosion in the slightest little bit of moisture. (Damp basements) Ge is also another one bad about rusting. I've seen them rust though in as little as 2yrs under the right conditions.
SD
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Post# 9696-11/24/2001-12:06 ||| scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT: RE: New Frigidaire washer (had to replace my FL frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Correction! When I said this was not a problem i've seen in the field I was refering to the F/L. I'm not quite sure if the use the same baseframe/material in the F/L and T/L.
SD
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Post# 9697-11/24/2001-12:09 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Whole lotta shakin' goin' on (Floor structure)
MESSAGE: Charlie, TERRIFIC pics. I love the high-resolution and the detail of each shot. You're fitting into Applianceville VERY WELL. Beautiful machine. Personally, I like the rear control panel style myself. And this new panel style would complement Mikey's Atlantis dryer very nicely. And BTW, your two machines complement each other very nicely. Do have to ask tho, is the dryer door capable of being reversed?
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Post# 9698-11/24/2001-12:34 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis, Minnesota)
SUBJECT: RE: Whole lotta shakin' goin' on (Floor structure)
MESSAGE: Bob I like the logo and the control panel...looks like a 1-18 for the 21st century! :-)
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Post# 9699-11/24/2001-16:10 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Whole lotta shakin' goin' on (Nice Machine!! & Happy T-Day!!)
MESSAGE: Hey DD:
Nice machine, I really like the controls on that model.And the retro-logo! Saw an undercounter model in NYC this week in my travels.
Happy T day everyone from up here in Northern NY (Waddington- find that on a MAP!!) on the beautiful St Lawrence.
How was everyones Turkey??Have been travelling since Tuesday and seen all--ALL of NY! Got to see the Macy's Day PArade from the 9th floor APt of a friend on CPWest. Never saw it in color and to see it live was cool!
Spotted an old Kelvinator dryer 1955?? in the krusher bin up here today. It was too gone to save but I am scouring the countryside as I drive through looking for old goodies.
Jet
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Post# 9700-11/24/2001-18:49 ||| devildaddy (Troy NY)
SUBJECT: Laundry helper
MESSAGE: Since Mike (nMaineMan) had to go home, I needed a little help with the laundry. The link below is a 15-second MPEG (1.3 MB) I took with my digital camera. It shows Devil, my Siamese cat, and his second encounter with the Frigidaire. Anyone who has a Siamese knows how nosy (and vocal) they are. Not recommended for the 56K modem impaired.
---Charlie
LINK: http://geocities.com/devildaddy1/mvc-457w.mpg
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Post# 9701-11/24/2001-18:52 ||| devildaddy (Troy NY)
SUBJECT: Corrected URL
MESSAGE: Apparently the link doesn't work properly if you click it here - it's adding a subdomain to the link. Here's the correct link:
http://geocities.com/devildaddy1/mvc-457w.mpg
PS - I know it's sideways. I didn't realize it when I shot it that it would display that way. Any way to rotate an MPEG?
---Charlie
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Post# 9702-11/24/2001-20:00 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Whole lotta shakin' goin' on (stabilizing the Frigmore)
MESSAGE: FL's are finicky beasts when it comes to leveling and floor stability. I followed Jason's instructions and took a 3/4" plywood and screwed it to the existing floor and floor joists. The joists were there so all I needed was the plywood. It goes right on top of the existing floor. Now The Frigemore still had the shakes so I repositioned it a little closer to the wall and I also found the floor was not completely level. I found one of the legs had to come out (unscrew) to stabilize it. When it started accelerating for spin (which is when it would start dancing), I carefully reached under and adjusted the leg till it made contact with the floor and it vibrates very minimal now.
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Post# 9703-11/24/2001-21:56 ||| lbcarguy (Long Beach, CA)
SUBJECT: GE Americana Refrigerator
MESSAGE: Just got this home today, a GE turquoise Americana refrigerator. It is in good shape and should clean up great. This is a very cool unit. Will post pictures soon.
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Post# 9704-11/24/2001-22:19 ||| Devildaddy (Troy NY)
SUBJECT: GRRRR!!!
MESSAGE: For those of you trying to access the MPEG I posted, Geocities shut down the link due to excess traffic. Apparently I'm limited to 3 GB of transfer monthly, which I didn't realize. Accordingly, I've had to remove the video. Sorry, guys! :O(
-Charlie
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Post# 9705-11/24/2001-22:42 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: GRRRR!!!
MESSAGE: Charlie, thanks for trying. Bob
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Post# 9706-11/24/2001-22:44 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Americana Refrigerator
MESSAGE: Mike, is this the same fridge you mention in your profile? Or have you scored another win with a 2nd turquoise fridge?
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Post# 9707-11/24/2001-23:15 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT: RE: GRRRR!!!
MESSAGE: That's too bad - it was a very cute video
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Post# 9708-11/24/2001-00:33 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy Thanksgiving (Mother of all wasp wars)
MESSAGE: Rich - at least the little criminals didn't get into the house................
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Post# 9709-11/24/2001-01:16 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: GRRRR!!! (Missed the Video)
MESSAGE: Can you email it to me? The address is in my club profile.
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Post# 9710-11/24/2001-01:41 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy Thanksgiving (Mother of all wasp wars)
MESSAGE: Well, actually one made it into the house a week or two ago... I remember being puzzled by it. I had left the sliding door to the patio open all day, so one probably got into the patio though a back nest entrance and then into the house via the open door. I didn't think much of it at the time, didn't know there was a nest brewing.
I found one YJ in the patio this morning. Against a window. Easily dispatched with a wadded up paper towel. No more buzzing can be heard through the ceiling. I was also able to work on the eaves right by the nest entrance without any unwelcome visitors. The best part is I haven't been stung yet.
Knock on regurtitated wood pulp.
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Post# 9711-11/24/2001-01:47 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT: RE: GRRRR!!! (Missed the Video)
MESSAGE: DADoES,
Can you relay it to me after you get it?
Thx
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Post# 9712-11/25/2001-07:04 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: GRRRR!!!
MESSAGE: Put it in your Yahoo briefcase and see what happens. It's only 1.3 meg so that shouldn't be a problem.
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Post# 9713-11/25/2001-07:55 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Americana Refrigerator
MESSAGE: Is your Americana refrig the style with the counter between the refrigerator on top and the roll out freezer below? Way cool box, but surprisingly small capacity. And in turquoise! congrats. Tom
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Post# 9714-11/25/2001-07:58 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy Thanksgiving (Mother of all wasp wars)
MESSAGE: Please be very careful smashing wasps. When you crush one of them, the body releases a pheromone that calls the others from the nest on the warpath to attack the killer. Please be careful.
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Post# 9715-11/25/2001-08:20 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy Thanksgiving (Mother of all wasp wars)
MESSAGE: They live their whole lives finding a way to invade someone's house. They live in their own puke and they will attack anything that gets close to them. They are terrorists and they all must die.
"Yellow Jackets will not stand"
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Post# 9716-11/25/2001-08:25 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator
MESSAGE: I do remember the introduction of the Dual-action in the 70s. I remember being taken to Sears and I ran like hell to the washing machines. When I found the Lady K with the dual-action, I flung the door open and there it was. WOW!!!! "This is the washer of the future" I thought. That was until I saw the famous Frigidaire vs. Kenmore commercial. Does ANYONE have this commercial on tape?
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Post# 9717-11/25/2001-09:07 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator
MESSAGE: Isn't that a fun ad? I would love to try this test for ourselves to see the results. Following the manufacturers instructions of loading the clothes loosely around the agitator, I don't see how they got this much in one load, let alone get anything at all clean. Too bad we can't zoom in to see the undissolved detergent on those bibs from that Maytag - you know that huge load didn't get to turn over once in that poor thing!
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Post# 9718-11/25/2001-09:09 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Americana Refrigerator
MESSAGE: Can't wait to see the pictures - congrats on the find!
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Post# 9719-11/25/2001-09:12 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GRRRR!!!
MESSAGE: Maybe DADoES can post it to his website so we can download it from there.
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Post# 9720-11/25/2001-12:34 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy Thanksgiving (Mother of all wasp wars)
MESSAGE: Yes, I'm aware of that phenomenon, Tom. If there were more than one inside the patio, I'd use a spray to dispatch them. But when there is only one loose, I haven't found crushing them to be a problem. I got tired of the strong mint and cloves smells of the non-toxic bug sprays I use inside the patio.
They are also agitated by buzzing motors like lawn mowers or... circular saws. That's why I had to deal with the nest before finishing off the eaves work.
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Post# 9721-11/25/2001-13:32 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis, Minnesota)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator
MESSAGE: I hope someone finds that commercial someday, I always loved that one. It's interesting that the Frigidaire does not appear in the Sears print ad in the POD. Whirlpool and *maybe* Maytag I might buy as the next "leading" brands, but I find it hard to believe that GE would have sold better than Frigidaire.
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Post# 9722-11/25/2001-13:35 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis, Minnesota)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator
MESSAGE: Then again, perhaps the Frigidaire was not included since they knew they couldn't beat it. Too, so much of the "brand popularity" thing of course is also tied to our families and what happened to be available in a given area.
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Post# 9723-11/25/2001-13:36 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator
MESSAGE: I'd sure like to konw the dimensions/size of those sheets & tablecloths. In spite of that, that's way too much for that size tub. And I don't even think I'd consider trying to get that much in my current, largerr tub LK. And like Greg says, that poor Maytag probably choked. And it only had a 12 minute wash cycle at best. The GE probably didn't do much better but I bet they set it for 18 minutes. I'm wondering how the Whirlpool did with its surgilator and a 14 minute wash. And of course, we all notice what's missing as brand x washer number 4, a 1/18!!!!!
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Post# 9724-11/25/2001-13:51 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator (Absent Friends)
MESSAGE: Never pick a fight with anyone you can't beat.
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Post# 9725-11/25/2001-13:53 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator (Runners up)
MESSAGE: It looks to me like the GE came in seconds, with the Whirlpool trailing the pack.
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Post# 9726-11/25/2001-13:54 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator
MESSAGE: I think overloading the machine was the idea. I guess they made their point about the DAA - the similar Whirlpool did MUCH worse.
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Post# 9727-11/25/2001-13:58 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator
MESSAGE: Unfortunately, your first instincts were correct. The DAA had a future. The Frigidaire was to meet a bitter end not long after...
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Post# 9728-11/25/2001-15:58 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator
MESSAGE: When I thought that, I didn't know about the Frigidaire jetcone yet. This was before I saw the commercial. I was very young but I was also very "washer-aware"
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Post# 9729-11/25/2001-16:06 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator
MESSAGE: Could it have been that this washer was the begining of the 'new' large capacity machine?
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Post# 9730-11/25/2001-16:13 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator
MESSAGE: I kinda wonder why they pitted Whirlpool against Kenmore since Whirlpool is the manufacturer. Why would a company compete against itself?
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Post# 9731-11/25/2001-16:16 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator
MESSAGE: I *think* Whirlpool came out with the 18lb tub before Kenmore did. After a few years Kenmore changed over to the 18lb in the Lady in 1973 and then brought it over to the lower end washers in 1974. The awesome Roto-swirl went bye-bye in 74 too I think. Any experts know about this?
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Post# 9732-11/25/2001-16:51 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator
MESSAGE: I don't know about the KM not being able to beat the Frigidaire. Those 1-18's don't handle overloading well, and with the load specs given in the ad, I doubt it would have fared much better than any of the rest.
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Post# 9733-11/25/2001-17:01 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator (dual action adj)
MESSAGE: I agree with that Scott. The Fridg would have kicked ass all the way around. Sad thing is it was the best in washing performance and it just doesn't exist any more (sad)
Peter
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Post# 9734-11/25/2001-17:01 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator
MESSAGE: Sears had to have been offering the large cap. tub for a while before this, but with the DAA, it could have handled a bit larger load than with the Penta-Swirl or similar agitator. I'm sure they used distance to their advantage in photographing the results. Lay some bibs on the floor and take 20 paces back, even looking down they'll look pretty clean. They appear spotless, but up close.....
Do you still have this machine Jason? Make a quick trip the Super Wal-Mart for the bibs and food items and gather up the rest of the load and let us know how it goes! Remember to sprinkle the detergent over the top of the load, just like the ad says! Keep us posted.
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Post# 9735-11/25/2001-17:12 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator (Dual Action)
MESSAGE: I remember after the dreaded day the 1/18 was discontinued, people who were Frigidaire customers just switched to whirlpool, maytag and ge. WCI gave them the business and screwed themselves. Thay tried to say their new garbage washed just as well as the 1/18 but nobody bought it.
So at that point the dual action adj became the best. So the funny thing is now that WCI is using the dual adj in their garbage TL now!!
Peter
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Post# 9736-11/25/2001-18:10 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator (My My My, Gansky.....)
MESSAGE: That was a fun ad, wasn't it (LOL)???? I loved THAT ad. Too bad that demonstration ad isn't pictured inside of my Sears 1976 F/W Catalog. Too bad they didn't think enough to put a Frigidaire right into that ad (sorry Frigidaire fans, but I didn't mean to gloat). I still remember that FAMOUS 1976 commercial featuring the 1976 Lady Kenmore versus the 1976 Frigidaire, and I am still reeling off of that commerical too (in a fun sort of way). Who would've thought that the "Dual-Action" agitator equipped washer would be the washer of the future??
--Charles--
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Post# 9737-11/25/2001-18:18 ||| trainguy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: Extra Part?
MESSAGE: Thank you very much for the help. I will pick up a new gasket and the transmission fluid this week. As soon as the baseplate comes back from the body shop, I can start reassembling this machine. I will remember the tip about the silicone sealant, too.
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Post# 9738-11/25/2001-18:34 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis, Minnesota)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator
MESSAGE: Sears did have a large tub washer at least since the late 60s, it was only offered on one model. The timer dial was on the right, flanked by two "ovals" which contained the temp and water level controls. I don't know or remember what agitator it had or if it had a recirculating or self cleaning filter. I bet someone with one of the older catalogs will know the one I'm talking about. Then, for a number of years after they came out with the bland "black-face" washers with the dual action agitator, they ran 3 separate lines, standard capacity, large capacity and the 24" ones, plus the portables, which I think even those had two or three models at the time. Most were available in 3 or 4 colors and with or without a suds saver option. Administratively, that department must have been a handful at that time.
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Post# 9739-11/25/2001-18:34 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator
MESSAGE: Hey, at several of the stores in my home town, including the "flagship" store at our newest shopping mall in a posh suburb, the Dual Action was advertised in a demo with a full tub of water and a modified timer set perpetually to Cotton Wash. Then, they propped a scarecrow fisherman on a ledge above it and had him holding a real pole with a real line dipped down into the wash basket so that you could see the tugging action at work. Loads of fun to watch that thing work.
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Post# 9740-11/25/2001-18:45 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis, Minnesota)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator
MESSAGE: Well I'm not sure about that Greg, but when you said that I did go back and look at the ad, and that is an awful lot of stuff to cram in any machine.
I always thought that the dual action agitator and the belt drive transmission were odd bedfellows. Maybe it's just the illusion, but it doesn't look like it's doing anything. I thought the Surgilator/Roto Swirl agitators moved things much better, but as I said, that may have been more of an illusion based on my being used to seeing the old style agitators and having been around Frigidaires mostly. Perhaps its just that more of the goings on are under the water and there's not a whole lot going on on the surface.
The dual action in the direct drive is quite another story, particularly on the lower water levels. That machine said it was supposed to hold 16 bath towels, and I would sometimes wash 10 and the corresponding wash cloths (and that seemed like more than enough to me). I just can't imagine putting sheets and towels and tablecloths and all the stuff in the machine at once. Granted the machines are nothing like they used to be, but I think a lot of people wash like that now and then wonder why they have breakdowns.
I just remembered too about that "gear stripping" noise the original dual action agitators used to make.
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Post# 9741-11/25/2001-18:48 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis, Minnesota)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator (My My My, Gansky.....)
MESSAGE: I thought it was an interesting new development at the time, having always followed the progression of machines at that time. Little did I know that they were entering the most drab, boring period of their laundry machine design history, one that still has not abated some 25 years later, save for the new frontloader.
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Post# 9742-11/25/2001-19:46 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator
MESSAGE: I remember the demo of the DAA at our Sears store here. The salesperson would take four or five wet bath towels and literally roll them into a ball and show how the DAA would unroll them and pull them under. Not sure what that was supposed to prove, but it was cool.
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Post# 9743-11/25/2001-19:54 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator
MESSAGE: I would love to have a 1-18 sized three ring agitator to try in the 1-18 - I'll bet that would be quite a show!
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Post# 9744-11/25/2001-20:13 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis, Minnesota)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator
MESSAGE: That would be interesting to see! Let's see...avacado green engergy ring, poppy red circulator ring, harvest gold lint chaser ring, coppertone cap. LOL
I hate to think of how that Maytag must have choked on that test load!
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Post# 9745-11/25/2001-20:14 ||| lbcarguy (Long Beach, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Americana Refrigerator (Reply)
MESSAGE: Hi,
The one in my bio is the standard GE fare for the era. It is a cool unit with swing out shelves that adjust for height and the bottom freezer drawer. The Americana is the top-0-the line. It is huge and has a lighted work surface between the freezer and fridge. It even has an ice maker. I will post pix in a week or so.
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Post# 9746-11/25/2001-20:15 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy Thanksgiving (Mother of all wasp wars)
MESSAGE: I am just worried that others might materialize to answer the pheromone call. Don't tell me about bug sprays. My favorite spray SLA which used to kill things on contact is now just pyrethrins and you can spray the stuff directly on flies and they are still buzzing around hours later. Sorry F***ing state of affairs when nothing can work because of what it might do to the environment. I sure am glad that I did not try to use the new formula on something like a wasp. I'd be dead, but the wasp and the GD environment would be just fine. John was telling me this morning that if you look closely at things taken out of his new KA DW that there are these itty bitty super fine particles on them. He thinks they went just a little overboard with water usage and silencing a machine that has to move water forcefully. Did y'all know that if you just press start on the regular WP DWs without choosing a cycle that it goes into a non energy-star cycle to give better washing? That's how much of a farce this business with low water usage is.
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Post# 9747-11/25/2001-20:23 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator
MESSAGE: Scott, report for a reality check. GE sold many many appliances and they sold a lot more than Frigidaire. GE has the builder market tied up and many of the apartments, condos and houses they equip with kitchen appliances get their laundry products also. Back in the late 50s and 60s, they would put a dishwasher in a kitchen for just a few dollars over the builder cost of the cooktop and wall oven, just to have the product there. They are so large that they can afford to lose money even, just to have their products in a home. GE was sold in far more stores than Frigidaire and you see that even today with GE and Kenmore laundry appliances at the midnight appliance store outnumbering Maytag. Sad, but true, then and now.
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Post# 9748-11/25/2001-20:28 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator
MESSAGE: Yes, except that Maytag never did make a true large cap machine of their own, even two decades after this test and today, almost three decades after the test, the original design is (perhaps deservedly) dying on the vine and the Norge super capacity machine is what they are pushing for a TL.
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Post# 9749-11/25/2001-20:29 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator
MESSAGE: Right you are Greg, and CR said that the 1-18 did not have great uniformity when fully loaded, which is what this test was all about.
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Post# 9750-11/25/2001-20:32 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis, Minnesota)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator
MESSAGE: That's interesting Tom, and I never thought of it in that way, or about the bulk sales they would have made to complexes. It was a rarity for me to see a GE appliance in my formative years though; perhaps it was just a circumstance of where I went and what was most popular or readily available in that particular minute corner of the world.
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Post# 9751-11/25/2001-21:06 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator
MESSAGE: Jason- that roto swirl may have looked awesome, but it really didn't wash that well especially with a full load because it just couldn't circulate the clothes. Even my mother, a diehard Kenmore fan was kind of surpised when she did her first load in a GE Filter Flo...............
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Post# 9752-11/25/2001-21:08 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator
MESSAGE: There was a complex of up-scale apartments here in town built in the mid 60's that had all Frigidaire appliances in avocado green. The only one I've ever seen with Frigidaire. Hotpoint was far more common (and still is - even in single family home construction) than GE or even Whirlpool.
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Post# 9753-11/25/2001-21:22 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator
MESSAGE: I knew of several apartmehnt complexes in houston that had Frigidaire kitchen (62-64) with spray tubers. One complex still had original kitchen in 1979!!
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Post# 9754-11/25/2001-21:28 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy Thanksgiving (Mother of all wasp wars)
MESSAGE: Well, I think the new formula wasp killers are modified pyrethrins - including the "Real Kill" that seemed to work just fine (it has Tralomethrin, a pyrethrin). I think the newer modified pyrethrins pack a bit more punch than the old standby, permethrin. Another brand still has Diazanon, but this chemical is being phased out not because of the environment, as I understand it, but because it's been found to be carcingenic. I like to use the essential oil-based bug bombs, which contain mint or clove oil, because they do kill on contact and are obviously far less toxic than traditional bug sprays. Mostly I let the bugs do their thing, let the bugs eat other bugs, but when it comes to ants and wasps, I draw the line.
I don't know if wasps have anything to do with washer water use, but this *is* an appliance-oriented message board... anyway, my solution for the water/energy thing is to go front loading. I'll keep a top loader or two around for entertainment or collector status, but the workhorse in this house is the Neptune.
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Post# 9755-11/25/2001-21:51 ||| Lenny (Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator (Penta-Swirl)
MESSAGE: Angus, Jason or others:
I am familiar with the 'super' roto-swirl agitator but was there simply a 'roto-swirl'model. Also, how was the 'penta-swirl' agitator? Did that have good action/roll-over? Im not familiar with the 'penta-swirl'
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Post# 9756-11/25/2001-21:55 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Extra Part?
MESSAGE: I would absolutely agree with everything Jason said Rich about restoring your '73 Lady Kenmore. But I highly recommend replacing that agitator shaft as well as the spin tube if this is a machine you want to use for a long time.
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Post# 9757-11/25/2001-21:59 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Corrected URL
MESSAGE: Charlie, you need to use a high end video editor such as Adobe Premier to rotate a MPEG.
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Post# 9758-11/25/2001-22:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator
MESSAGE: Still looking for that commercial (as well as the 1-18 commercial too), after 15 years I have not found a copy of either one of them.
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Post# 9759-11/25/2001-22:03 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator (Look who's missing)
MESSAGE: Notice that Brand "F" is missing from that Dual Action ad, hmmm, I wonder why?????
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Post# 9760-11/25/2001-22:19 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator
MESSAGE: Sounds like a cool display gadgetmad, was this the original belt-drive Kenmore, or a later direct-drive demo machine. I've seen some see-thru direct drive demo's.
Welcome to the club, our first Alabama member YAY! We're all over!
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Post# 9761-11/25/2001-22:20 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Corrected URL
MESSAGE: DevilDaddy/Charlie sent me a copy of the video. I found a program that can rotate the clip, but it seems to have a problem with saving it in MPEG format -- the video is compressed such that it zips by in a couple seconds, but the audio is at normal speed. That may have something to do with the MPEG format not liking the switch from 320x240 to 240x320. Or it may be a bug in the program, as the problem does not occur if the edited clip is saved as an MPEG without sound. However, it does fine when the rotated clip is saved as an AVI instead -- except that the size is somewhat larger. It came out as 6 MB first, then I processed it again using a different codec that provides for more compression, and now it's 2 MB -- still larger than the original 1.3 MB, but workable. I'll upload the clip soon as I get a chance, perhaps later tonight.
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Post# 9762-11/25/2001-22:59 ||| lbcarguy (Long Beach, CA)
SUBJECT: GE Americana Find
MESSAGE: Us appliance people have to stick together! I was able to obtain this unit because of a good friend in my car club who lives in Ohio and another mutual friend (car club also) in San Diego. The San Diegan located the fridge and called my friend in Ohio with his find. Neither one could buy it. The guy in San Diego did not have room and the shipping to get it to Ohio was not practical so my Ohio friend called me. He knew I would flip over the find so he gave me the info. I called down to San Diego (I live 100 miles north in Long Beach) and our mutual friend gave me the details and he helped arrange the purchase by paying for it while I sent him the money. If it were not for these two guys, I would not have such a cool appliance. So, when you see something you know somebody else would love to have, find a way to make sure they get it. Happy Hunting,
Mike
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Post# 9763-11/25/2001-23:17 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Americana Find
MESSAGE: I'm happy to say that is the way most of us here in Applianceville are towards each other. We're always helping someone else out, or at least trying to.
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Post# 9764-11/25/2001-23:22 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator
MESSAGE: I first saw that display in the fall of 1977, the same month Whirlpool trotted out a model with an electronic control panel, and so right next to the display was the first electronic Lady Kenmore, and it was painted almond, the first appliance of that color anyone had ever seen - at the time, quite a stunning contrast to all that wheat, avocado, and coffee we were all used to.
Yeah, Ive also seen a see-through display a few years ago, built to showcase the 3-speed motor coupled with 6 wash/spin combos. S&S Whirlpool/KitchenAid/Roper, our largest distributor here, also has one in each of its stores. Why hasnt there ever been an in-store demo of the Calypso? I guess the website demo is all anyone needs...
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Post# 9765-11/25/2001-23:36 ||| HQOTS (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator
MESSAGE: When we went to the KBIS show this spring they had a Calypso with the clear tub. It was beat to hell but still worked. They had the thing set to Wool or some gentle thing like that and we had to push Heavy Duty to see what happened. Water, water every where!!! We walked away for a bit and then came back to see the thing reset to Wool.
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Post# 9766-11/25/2001-01:58 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator
MESSAGE: WOW! That was such a great machine! I made my mother buy that model when her machine went. It was great to use! I remeber the sticker that was attached to the top of the dual action agitator when it was deliver it said "LISTEN TO THE CLICKING SOUND OF THE DUAL ACTION WASHING" my mother said to me that's not a click it more like a grind! (lol) The only problem she had was that the off balance buzzer would go off alot so sears repair installed a balnce ring to correct this. It was like a hula hoop that attached to the top of the basket and would sound like marbles rolling around when it would being to spin. They said that they were having trouble with the stability of the larger tub. After that it was great, I liked the great dispenser sounds also! When she sold the house and moved to Florida it was still working. I hope you all had a great Thanksgiving!
"Brooklyn Robert"
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Post# 9767-11/26/2001-02:35 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator
MESSAGE: Interesting about the balance ring. A family friend had a 18-pounder Whirlpool that was displaying similar symptoms (except no OOBB). Along with adding the balance ring, the Whirlpool dealer changed the bearings and several other components.
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Post# 9768-11/26/2001-02:45 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: Frigimore and Black Cat
MESSAGE: Here's the video, 2,784 KB.
LINK: http://users.wcnet.net/dadoes/frigimore-cat.avi
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Post# 9769-11/26/2001-02:49 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator (Picture of Penta-Swirl)
MESSAGE: Here's a bit of editing on a page from a 1975 Sears catalog, originally posted by Greg.
Notice that it references both the Penta-Swirl and Roto-Swirl, but doesn't include a picture of the Roto-Swirl.
Also notice that the pictures of the Penta-Vane and Straight-Vane are switched.
LINK: http://users.wcnet.net/dadoes/kenmore-agitators.jpg
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Post# 9770-11/26/2001-05:19 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: Kelvinator POD
MESSAGE: Hi Robert,
Thats a GREAT ad from McCalls, showing that glamourous Kelvinator going thru testing trials! Thats one of my dream machines, since I also collet Rambler/American Motors cars! Like their 50's advertising stated: "American Motors means MORE for Americans!"
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Post# 9771-11/26/2001-06:18 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator
MESSAGE: Of course, Hotpoint is a subsidiary of GE, so the money is flowing into the same sea, just through different rivers. In our neighborhood, there were two builders and they seemed to alternate between GE and Frigidaire, although the earlier homes were more GE and the later ones Frigidaire. The builder said our house was the first one he had ever built with a KA DW, which was specified.
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Post# 9772-11/26/2001-06:25 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator
MESSAGE: At the Kitchen & Bath International Show in Whorlando, we saw a see thru Calypso at the Sears booth.
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Post# 9773-11/26/2001-06:29 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigimore and Black Cat
MESSAGE: Thanks to all who made watching this possible. Pretty neat. Wonder what attracted the cat? Can't believe how Maytagish the control panel looks.
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Post# 9774-11/26/2001-07:20 ||| Devildaddy (Troy NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigimore and Black Cat (My son is famous)
MESSAGE: Dadoes -
Thanks for righting the MPEG and posting it. I downloaded it for Mikey at his house using a 56K modem - talk about living in a third-world country!
Now I can tell Devil he's famous. If I could only get him to speak while he's watching the washer.
--- Charlie
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Post# 9775-11/26/2001-07:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigimore and Black Cat
MESSAGE: How funny - did the cat get any closer to look in the window?
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Post# 9776-11/26/2001-07:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator (Picture of Penta-Swirl)
MESSAGE: Thanks Glenn - I had a machine in my first townhouse with a Penta-Swirl, but it didn't have the taller, flat top for mounting a dispenser. It seemed to do OK, it was much tamer than the roto-swirl.
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Post# 9777-11/26/2001-07:34 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator
MESSAGE: Because our big retailer/wholesaler for Hotpoint was NE Furniture Mart, you see more Hotpoint everywhere here. For years, the Mart only carried Hotpoint, no GE. They now carry both, but that Hotpoint price point is still irresistable to many buyers.
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Post# 9778-11/26/2001-11:59 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigimore and Black Cat (My son is famous)
MESSAGE: Cool video of the cat + Frigmore...
I have had cats that are fascinated by water, also. One, about 15 years ago, who used to try to jump into the bathtub with me. She was a strange cat; she also loved bananas and strawberries.
I have another cat now, who has had a thing about water as well. If you were sitting on the can, she would come and nestle in your underwear around your ankles! If one was standing and urinating, she'd come up and bat the stream with her paw. She's sort of grown out of that, but still likes to come round when anyone is using the bath.
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Post# 9779-11/26/2001-14:34 ||| devildaddy (Troy NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigimore and Black Cat
MESSAGE: Nope, just about then the washer started draining and scared the daylights out of him. He ran and didn't stop until he got into the kitchen. His sister Ranger likes to watch the washer during spin, although she stands back in the doorway.
--- Charlie
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Post# 9780-11/26/2001-15:53 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigimore and Black Cat
MESSAGE: Charlie, isnt' it nice that laundry now can be a bit more entertaining for the kids??? and scare them a bit too, unfortunately. At lest the kids now understand why we'ere hooked on washers. And for many of us, it was a front loader.
As you said, now if you can only get Devil to speak while he's watching. You'd had a washer that's the cat's meow!!!
Bob
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Post# 9781-11/26/2001-19:48 ||| madigan (Santa Ana CA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator (Hmm - Straight Vane...)
MESSAGE: Rugged and dependable for gentle but thorough... action...
I WANT ONE!
jjm
(but then again, that vigorous "roll-over" action sounds good too...)
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Post# 9782-11/26/2001-22:15 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator (Hmm - Straight Vane...)
MESSAGE: Jim, you BAD boy you!!!! ;-) Sounds like you were overcome iwth excitement fur sure.
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Post# 9783-11/26/2001-22:43 ||| madigan (Santa Ana CA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator (Hmm - Straight Vane...)
MESSAGE: OK - is this "Subliminal Sex," or what!?!?
jjm
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Post# 9784-11/26/2001-23:21 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator (Hmm - Straight Vane...)
MESSAGE: How about just plain overt!!!1
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Post# 9785-11/26/2001-01:57 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator (Hmm - Straight Vane...)
MESSAGE: WOW!
That sounds a lot like my new boy friend!(LOL)
"Brooklyn Robert"
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Post# 9786-11/27/2001-06:30 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: 58 WP POD
MESSAGE: The white rectangle with the gold cross design was a button and you pushed it to open not only the dryer, but the washer lid also. The washer lid was spring loaded to pop up slightly, not fly open, when the button was pushed. It was something WP had used on their TOL machines since the early 50s and 58 might have been the last year for the feature. Note also how many years Kenmore would keep the rounded cabinet after WP squared theirs off.
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Post# 9787-11/27/2001-06:39 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigimore and Black Cat (My son is famous)
MESSAGE: Years ago, next door neighbors had cats. One holiday, they had company. When the male guest got up early to get ready in the AM, he went into the bath off the hall and shut the door. There was a tapping at the door so he opened it. Sissy, the mother cat, came in the bathroom, jumped up on the toilet tank and watched him shave and get ready. We never figured that one out.
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Post# 9788-11/27/2001-07:07 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigimore and Black Cat (My cat is mad too)
MESSAGE: I also have a water-obsessed cat. It is possibly a Turkish Van or part Turkish - he is a cat-home refugee so we don't know his origins. Vans are generally water mad - they are sometimes known as the swimming cats.
Monty sits on the washer waiting for it to pump out and attacks the water as it splashes into the sink. When I use the Asko FL I leave the drop down door down so he (alright - both of us ) can watch the wash go round. Occasionally he sits on the door to watch wash go round. He has also been known to hop into the washer drum when it is left empty - he loves enclosed spaces to hide. When I shower he sits close by and waits till I finish, then hops in the bath and plays with the drops as they run towards the plug hole. It is a daily ritual.
Chris.
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Post# 9789-11/27/2001-09:06 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis, Minnesota)
SUBJECT: RE: 58 WP POD
MESSAGE: Tom, that RCA washer is the style my great aunt had; I liked the timeline style control panel. Very nice machine. I'm still not sure why, she was the only one that did not have a Frigidaire washer, though she had Frigidaire kitchen appliances. It replaced an early Westinghouse frontloader, and she had the RCA washer and the old Westinghouse dryer for the rest of her life.
How long did Sears keep rounded cabinets? Were they only on some models? I know by 1960 at least some models had the square cabinets.
Have a great day, Scott
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Post# 9790-11/27/2001-11:40 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigimore and Black Cat (My cat is mad too)
MESSAGE: Katy also likes to go into the shower stall after I'm finished and play around with the water drops. Although as she has gotten older, that sort of activity has dropped off a bit.
Cocoa, the long hair siamese, like to play with rubber bands. Periodically I find them deposited into the dishwahser if I've left the door down for a while. Found one caught in the pump once...
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Post# 9791-11/27/2001-12:13 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: 58 WP POD
MESSAGE: Hello Scott:
How are you doing?? To answer your question, the 1960 Kenmores still came in the round cabinets, AND, that was the last year we've seen the Lady Kenmore dryer have a "center drop down" door just like all of the other models in the line. The 1961 Kenmore line was the first line of laundry appliances to ever have the square cabinets. And it was also the first year we've seen a Kenmore dryer with the "full width" door on it. However..... the 1961 Lady Kenmore was the only dryer with the "full width" that year. It's a coincidence that those two changes intersected with each other that year, isn't it??
--Charles--
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Post# 9792-11/27/2001-14:58 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis, Minnesota)
SUBJECT: RE: 58 WP POD
MESSAGE: Hi Charles, I'm doing well thanks, snowy weather notwithstanding. Thanks for that info, I remember seeing a picture of the dryer you're talking about. It's all pushbuttons and no timer dial, and it has the little air freshener bottle thing. Cool machine as were so many of theirs pre mid-70s. Scott
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Post# 9793-11/27/2001-15:14 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT: Old Maytags
MESSAGE: I was wondering if anyone could point me towards photos of 50's and 60's Maytag top loaders automatic washers (not wringer type). I bought a used old white Maytag with rounded corners, one big timer dial and maybe a dial or switch for water temperature, back in 1980. Unfortunately I don't remember a lot about it, other than that it was rounded and not squared off like the washers of the 60's and 70's. The motor went out and I got a replacement, for about $50, which had a plastic water shield over it. It worked well enough, but eventually it started dripping grease/oil on clothes, and when I moved in 1985 to a rental house with a Whirlpool super capacity with surgilator, I donated the Maytag to charity. I would probably recognize it from photos. Just kind of curious about its approximate vintage.
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Post# 9794-11/27/2001-15:19 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 58 WP POD
MESSAGE: Interesting Whirlpool observations Tom, I never actually noticed that but your absolutely right about Kenmore keeping the rounded corners, at least through the 1960 line.
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Post# 9795-11/27/2001-15:30 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Home Safe and Snug
MESSAGE: We've arrived home safe and sound this afternoon. We left a very humid south Florida and came home to a wonderful surprise, our first snowstorm. Minneapolis is so beautiful to fly into when the snow is coming down as you break through the clouds and see a wonderland city of white. I just came back from using my other favorite appliance, the snow blower and I'm sipping some hot cocoa.
We had a great trip and we didn't find one remnant of any vintage Frigidaire laundromats in Miami, but did have some great Cuban cuisine in Little Havana. South Beach on Miami Beach is a wonder of beautifully restored deco buildings. When I was little I can remember so many fun Frigidaire laundromats in Miami and Fort Lauderdale, including some that had the coin op Super-Duty that I have today, brought back lots of good memories.
Glad to home and back on my DSL.
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Post# 9796-11/27/2001-16:04 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Home Safe and Snug
MESSAGE: Glad y'all are home safe, snug, and keeping warm too. Believe it or not, it's supposed to get icy here tonight. Brrrrr!!!
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Post# 9797-11/27/2001-16:18 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis, Minnesota)
SUBJECT: '65 Frigidaire Turquoise Custom Imperial Dryer
MESSAGE: Look at this beautiful dryer, in Texas. This is my exact childhood dryer, color and all!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1303031775
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Post# 9798-11/27/2001-16:22 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: '65 Frigidaire Turquoise Custom Imperial Dryer
MESSAGE: Scott, that's in either far west Texas near El Paso or in extreme panhandle beyond Lubbock. Nowhere near here. Although I'm drooling.
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Post# 9799-11/27/2001-16:24 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis, Minnesota)
SUBJECT: RE: '65 Frigidaire Turquoise Custom Imperial Dryer
MESSAGE: Well, I'm hoping someone "worthy" will snap it up, LOL. There was a pink one a while back, I forget where, but I know it sold. In fact, I think Peter or someone may even have bid on it at some point.
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Post# 9800-11/27/2001-16:34 ||| unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: '65 Frigidaire Turquoise Custom Imperial Dryer
MESSAGE: Wow that is a very cool dryer Scott. Isn't that the dryer that your mom had and in the same color?
That is a wonderful dryer actually, similar to my '59 with a slightly slower air flow which makes for some very soft clothes.
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Post# 9801-11/27/2001-16:36 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: '65 Frigidaire Turquoise Custom Imperial Dryer
MESSAGE: Lovely! If I had a place to put it, and the gumption to go fetch it . . . .
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Post# 9802-11/27/2001-16:40 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis, Minnesota)
SUBJECT: RE: '65 Frigidaire Turquoise Custom Imperial Dryer
MESSAGE: Hi Robert, yes that's the exact one, even the color! It is so cool to see such a nice one still in service and available! That was her very first clothes dryer and its arrival coincided closely with baby no. 4, my little brother, so I'm sure it was a welcome addition to the household! It was indeed an excellent performer, left the clothes nice and soft and did well with all kinds of fabrics! Scott
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Post# 9803-11/27/2001-16:46 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: '65 Frigidaire Turquoise Custom Imperial Dryer
MESSAGE: We'll I hope somebody in Applianceville gets it, it looks like its in nice shape.
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Post# 9804-11/27/2001-17:20 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: '65 Frigidaire Turquoise Custom Imperial Dryer
MESSAGE: Scott, wouldn't that be a wonderful companion for your Frigidaire washer? You could just sell your dining room furniture and turn it into a utility room. :-)
Rich
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Post# 9805-11/27/2001-17:22 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: '65 Frigidaire Turquoise Custom Imperial Dryer
MESSAGE: Scott, my memory is failing me right now, but I THINK one of our newest members may have been the one that got that pink dryer.
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Post# 9806-11/27/2001-17:25 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis, Minnesota)
SUBJECT: RE: '65 Frigidaire Turquoise Custom Imperial Dryer
MESSAGE: Hi Rich! :) :) :)
Don't think that thought hasn't crossed my mind! LOL
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Post# 9807-11/27/2001-18:13 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Home Safe and Snug
MESSAGE: Had to turn the heat on over the weekend. Got down to 33.7F in the back yard last night, according to my remote wireless weather system.
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Post# 9808-11/27/2001-18:21 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Home Safe and Snug (Iciness)
MESSAGE: Bring it on, I'm ready!
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Post# 9809-11/27/2001-18:23 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigimore and Black Cat (My cat is mad too)
MESSAGE: Gizmo, bless you for taking in a cat-home refugee. Tom
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Post# 9810-11/27/2001-18:28 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: 58 WP POD
MESSAGE: Actually, Charles, I think that the squared off cabinet and the full width loading door would be part of the same design to trim up the lines of the front of the machine and not a coincidece. It was a big change in looks though and for the better, I think. Kenmore cabinets were beginning to look a little dated.
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Post# 9811-11/27/2001-20:21 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Pink Wall Mounted GE Fridge
MESSAGE: Check out the latest posting in the Classified Ads section!
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Post# 9812-11/27/2001-20:44 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: '65 Frigidaire Turquoise Custom Imperial Dryer
MESSAGE: A place to put it?!?!?! Is this dryer far from you?
There's no excuse, you must have it...think of how soft and fluffy those clothes from the F&P will be coming out of a Frigidaire!
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Post# 9813-11/27/2001-20:46 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: '65 Frigidaire Turquoise Custom Imperial Dryer
MESSAGE: Yes - Trainguy, a beautiful dryer - Filtrator too.
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Post# 9814-11/27/2001-20:47 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Pink Wall Mounted GE Fridge
MESSAGE: I saw that this morning - who in California needs a new fridge? This would be cool to have in the garage even, and space efficient!
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Post# 9815-11/27/2001-20:51 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: '65 Frigidaire Turquoise Custom Imperial Dryer
MESSAGE: I have a step-brother in Plainview, TX - very close....and he was just here for Thanksgiving! I wish it was a Filtrator!
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Post# 9816-11/27/2001-21:00 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: '65 Frigidaire Turquoise Custom Imperial Dryer
MESSAGE: I must agree - since I can't get from where I live in Connecticut - then you must do it for the good of all of us.
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Post# 9817-11/27/2001-22:11 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: '65 Frigidaire Turquoise Custom Imperial Dryer
MESSAGE: Greg, that dryer is even farther away from Glenn than from me. At least a 6-8 hour drive from where I live. (Now, who's gonna drive me that far).
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Post# 9818-11/27/2001-22:14 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: '65 Frigidaire Turquoise Custom Imperial Dryer
MESSAGE: Then the problem is solved. Have your step-brother drive from Plaineview to Temple with this dryer. If it's in good shape, then I could use it. Glenn & RJ could drive up and Glenn could do the mechanical work for me of cleaning it up.
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Post# 9819-11/27/2001-22:38 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Pink Wall Mounted GE Fridge (WOW! Pink GE!!)
MESSAGE: Thats the fridge I grew up with. Amazing that there is another pink one out there. IT was a great fridge--always out of the way!
jet
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Post# 9820-11/27/2001-22:48 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigimore and Black Cat (My cat is mad too)
MESSAGE: Both mine are refugees - one, the little one, was found abandoned under a car parked near a freeway. She was in pretty bad shape, extremely hungry, but pulled through. The other one, the long hair siamese, was given to me by a friend who said unless I took him, her husband was sending him to the pound - as he did with his mother and most of his siblings. He was terrorized by the man for a while, apparently, and it's taken a year for him to trust people. Apparently the man was allergic to cats, and to this day if I cough or sneeze the cat freaks out and goes running. But when he's feeling safe he's a great cat.
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Post# 9821-11/27/2001-23:45 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Snowy weather
MESSAGE: The link here contains a story about the weather we've been having around the state, which some may find interesting, amusing, or what have you. I'm posting it mainly because if you scroll most of the way down the story to the right, and click on the picture titled "wintry scene" (to get a larger version), you will see one of the nicer side effects of certain snowfalls. Very pretty!
LINK: http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/857692.html
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Post# 9822-11/27/2001-00:18 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Snowy weather
MESSAGE: Well that's some lovely weather you Minnesotans are having this week! I guess it will make me appreciate our occasional rain, hail, and 34 degree lows a bit more. But I am thinking perhaps we will see a sprinkling of snow at some point this winter. Stay warm and safe!
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Post# 9823-11/27/2001-01:01 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Snowy weather
MESSAGE: I'm having an outdoor temp of 42°, and a balmy Lennox 71° inside with gentle Hunter breezes. 8-)
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Post# 9824-11/27/2001-01:04 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Snowy weather
MESSAGE: Glenn, if you see this, we're in the chatroom! :-)
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Post# 9825-11/28/2001-02:51 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Snowy weather
MESSAGE: I wish it would get cold and snow here! It's been very warm and we have had rain which is not good for "Ground Zero" (the site where the World Trade Center use to be), it really smells bad now. Where I live in Brooklyn is near the East River, so when the wind shifts a horrid odor comes over from there. Maybe when it snows it will freeze everything and it will be better, I hope.
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Post# 9826-11/28/2001-05:31 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Pink Wall Mounted GE Fridge
MESSAGE: It would be better to have this fridge in an air conditioned space since the freezer has to be defrosted and it is messy to do at that height.
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Post# 9827-11/28/2001-05:36 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigimore and Black Cat (My cat is mad too)
MESSAGE: It is amazing how compassion and cruelty know no bounds. Thank you for helping these fellow creatures.
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Post# 9828-11/28/2001-06:03 ||| TRAINGUY (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: '65 Frigidaire Turquoise Custom Imperial Dryer
MESSAGE: I am already checking into shipping companies. I don't want to take it from someone local, though. I think that side by side, a pink and green pair would be very attractive, especially at Christmas.
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Post# 9829-11/28/2001-07:03 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Snowy weather
MESSAGE: We'll try and push some of our fun in snow weather towards NYC for you Robert, actually I bet this front will reach you, but it will modify long before it reaches the east coast.
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Post# 9830-11/28/2001-07:03 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: '65 Frigidaire Turquoise Custom Imperial Dryer
MESSAGE: YAY Rich, keeps us posted as to what happens!
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Post# 9831-11/28/2001-07:12 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: Where & how do I send a brochure ?
MESSAGE: I have a fun old sales brochure for a Hoover Keymatic, a front loader made in Australia in early 1960's. It makes some outrageous claims, like "You really could pour oil on your husband's best shirt - if you had a Keymatic. That's because the cunningly recessed pulsator in the Keymatic works with the rotation of the tub in a combination specially designed to develop extra power, to get almost impossibly dirty clothes spotlessly clean." accompanied by a pic of black oil being poured on a shirt....
I could imagine some fireworks if any wife tried that one...
I would like to scan it and send it to be used in the museum or as a pic of day. I am no expert with scanning & sending so I need to know what to do and what resolution and other settings to use. I have a Canon 650U scanner, modem is 56K but I generally only connect at 33K.
Thanks for any help.
Chris.
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Post# 9832-11/28/2001-07:28 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Pink Wall Mounted GE Fridge
MESSAGE: I have an early 60's Hotpoint top freezer box in my garage (it's pink too) which I got in May. The freezer isn't opened that often, but I've been surprised at how little frost has built up in these last months, especially during the summer.
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Post# 9833-11/28/2001-08:43 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Snowy weather (Ground 0 )
MESSAGE: Hi Robert - I feel the same way, I wish it would get cooler. I work next to ground 0. As soon as I get off the train I look directly at it. (how sad).
Peter
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Post# 9834-11/28/2001-11:28 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Snowy weather
MESSAGE: I hope so I love snow! I'm a winter person! I hate the summer, too hot, humid, I even have an air conditioner in my bathroom! Like the TV show "Rhoda" she moved to where it was cold so she would keep better! I don't know why I'm up so early today! (lol) Have a great day!
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Post# 9835-11/28/2001-11:38 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: We Have a Winner! (was: Kenmore wont supply warm water rinse)
MESSAGE: Okay guys - problem solved. It was the temperature control. The new FSP module arrived today. In 5 minutes, I had it popped into place, the control panel back on and warm water coming into the tub.
Thanks to everybody who replied for all the great advice.
Uh...quick refresher for those who missed this little docudrama: My '97 Kenmore would supply only a cold-water rinse. I had replaced the ATC circuit board and was about to make a pass at the timer, when the Sears Repair dude suggested the temp control module. Cost of a new timer would have been around $200 sawbucks. Cost of the new module - $7. And, worth every penny.
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Post# 9836-11/28/2001-11:38 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Snowy weather (Ground 0 )
MESSAGE: WOW! That's right, I forgot you work near it. You must really get a blast of that odor! It turns my stomach, that smell! Some of the cops I work with go there everyday they wear a mask. They say it still has hot spots. I've seen a few people in the news dressed in suits wearing gas masks on their way to work because of the air quality. I've purchased a large enviracaire air machine, it helps on the days when the wind shifts. I'll call you soon we'll talk!
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Post# 9837-11/28/2001-14:50 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: We Have a Winner! (was: Kenmore wont supply warm water rinse)
MESSAGE: Glad it was an easy fix Gadgetmad, cold-only rinses won't due for most of us here in Applianceville.
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Post# 9838-11/28/2001-14:56 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Where & how do I send a brochure ?
MESSAGE: Hi Chris, why don't you scan it 100dpi and email the files to me at webmaster@classicappliances.com. Or the other option is to post them yourself to your very own Yahoo Photo album. Its easy and free to set those up. Let us know if you need more help.
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Post# 9839-11/28/2001-17:35 ||| trainguy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: '65 Frigidaire Turquoise Custom Imperial Dryer
MESSAGE: Robert,
I have a quote for shipping 250# from Texas to Pennsylvania; however, they won't crate the dryer. I can't find your post in the archives, but if I remember correctly, you had something shipped from New England to your home. Did they crate the appliance for you? Thanks.
Rich
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Post# 9840-11/28/2001-17:45 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: '65 Frigidaire Turquoise Custom Imperial Dryer
MESSAGE: Trainguy, I understand you won the pink Frigidaire filtrator that was on Ebay awhile ago. Do you have any Frig. washers or other items in your collection? Scott
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Post# 9841-11/28/2001-18:49 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire 40" stove on ebay
MESSAGE: 50s 40" stove. beautiful
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/kenmore800/lst?.dir=/photos/Sir+Frigmore&.view=t
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Post# 9842-11/28/2001-18:50 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: OOPS wrong link
MESSAGE: Here it is.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1488871979
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Post# 9843-11/28/2001-18:51 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire Flair Range on ebay
MESSAGE: Nice Flair but needs restoration.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1490132906
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Post# 9844-11/28/2001-18:59 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: OOPS wrong link
MESSAGE: That's gorgeous!! I think that is called Stratford Yellow. I love those scalloped copper range hoods, too! It looks so nice there I don't know why they would sell it, but I hope someone who will appreciate it benefits!
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Post# 9845-11/28/2001-19:27 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Flair Range on ebay
MESSAGE: Boy does it ever...
I saw one of these at a sale this summer and I was told by one of my sale company friends that the new owner of the house wanted it gone. I could have bought it for a $40 bid, but I don't have access to a crane to move it, and it's never been one of my favorite ranges. A friend had one with the exhaust fan above it which made it look as big as a walk in closet. They're pretty, but you need the right kitchen to accomodate something this big.
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Post# 9846-11/28/2001-19:32 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Where & how do I send a brochure ?
MESSAGE: Hi Gizmo!
Try Yahoo photo's. Its free and not to hard, if you have a scanner. One day I am going to post the Choice 1963 and 1972 reports into Automatic Washers. One day. ANyway the Hoover Keymatic is described in great detail along with all the other models as well.
But if you could post the Keymatic brochure it would be fully sick maate!
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Post# 9847-11/28/2001-19:43 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator
MESSAGE: I remember when I forst saw the dual action agitator. I though it loooked incredible. When I was a child playing on those spiral sliperry dips I often though how cool it would be if an agiatator was made in that shape. Then I opened up the Whirlpool and WOW! I was particular excited as I hadnt seen the new Whirlpools after and absence of about 7 or 8 years from our market.
Whirlpool always were manufactured in Australia under licence by a company named Malleys. In the early 80's however Malleys got taken over by Simpson and the Whirlpool design was no longer manufactured. In its place was a machine that had the same shape and knobs as the Whirlpool but different Graphics and when you opened the lid, it was Simpson inside. It was however much more fully featured than the Simpson machines. So when Whirlpool reestablished itself as an importer of its own appliances in the late 1980s i was still young enough to get excited (heck I still get excited by washing machines) The dual action really was the icing on the cake though.
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Post# 9848-11/28/2001-21:06 ||| TrainGuy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: '65 Frigidaire Turquoise Custom Imperial Dryer
MESSAGE: Hi Scott,
I have been lucky in finding a few. I now have 1 unimatic and 2 1-18s. I have 2 filtrator and 1 1-18 dryers. I have a few other LK and Maytags. I got a call today about another Frigidaire dryer. I'm going to look at it tomorrow. I'll probably bid on this 65 dryer on eBay, too.
I learned how to take pictures with my digital camera and have them saved in My Briefcase. I believe I have to do something with Yahoo now. I'm still learning. As soon as I can, I'll post pictures of my appliances and a few of my train boxes.
Rich
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Post# 9849-11/28/2001-21:48 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: '65 Frigidaire Turquoise Custom Imperial Dryer
MESSAGE: Sounds great! Sounds like a nice collection. We'll look forward to seeing your pictures. Which Unimatic do you have? Scott
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Post# 9850-11/28/2001-00:11 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Miss Jet Cone's wonderful collection
MESSAGE: Karen, thank you for letting us see pictures of your wonderful collections! I'd no idea you had so many things! Your Suzy Homemaker collection is especially wonderful, but I enjoyed seeing everything. Hope you and David are doing well! Scott
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Post# 9851-11/28/2001-01:19 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Miss Jet Cone's wonderful collection
MESSAGE: Yes, I'm amazed by the pristine nature of the collection.
I remember, as a young boy, hearing that there were toy ovens available that would cook cupcakes with a light bulb. I was in our break room yesterday, and the subject of the "Suzy Homemaker" oven actually came up! (We were complaining about the weak wattage of the corporate microwave). I was told that the SH ovens could only make very small, rather flat cakes. Still, I always was amazed by the concept and wanted to see one in operation. Never did!
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Post# 9852-11/29/2001-02:21 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: POD-Maytag commercial washer
MESSAGE: That was the exact same avocado washer put in my dorms when they were constructed new in 1969 & 1970. the same ones I used in 1973.
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Post# 9853-11/29/2001-02:30 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD-Maytag commercial washer
MESSAGE: That's a fun picture. I've seen them many times in harvest gold and almond, but this is the first time in avacado (the commercial models, that is). The knob is different, but the cycles are exactly the same as the ones today.
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Post# 9854-11/29/2001-02:50 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Miss Jet Cone's wonderful collection
MESSAGE: I think the "Easy Bake Oven" also baked with the use of a 100 watt light bulb, I never had one. I had the "Pretzel Jetzel" that use to make flat crazy looking pretzels with light bulb baking! (lol) I did have at least 3 or 4 "Structo Toy Washing Machines". I'm an only child, my parents bought me a new one every year for Christmas, for about as long as the structo company made them. Structo's were very close to the real thing, also were very durable, even had a timer in front. I managed to wear them out from year to year from "over use!" I have two of them now, which I found on ebay, one is still in it's original box, it says something about the "Ding Dong School", and being a General Electric reproduction, but no filter-flo or tongue of water. (lol) I find the toys they have today are much more hi-teck, and not as much fun!
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Post# 9855-11/29/2001-03:00 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: POD-Maytag commercial washer
MESSAGE: Hi Scott;
Me and you are the two night owls(QQ) here! I've never seem any top loading washer in the coin-op places here! All are front loading.
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Post# 9856-11/29/2001-04:32 ||| mooney6au (Sydney, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigimore and Black Cat (Welcome to the group)
MESSAGE: Hi gizmo,
Welcome to this great group of appliance lovers from another aussie. I have a cat named Monty(Australian or Spotted Mist) who is similarly obsessed with water doing exactly what your cat does in the bath. He also loves watching the washing roll around in our Miele front loader, often pawing at the glass porthole.
I remember the Hoover Keymatics being demonstrated in David Jones stores in the 60's. They had a perspex door and you could see the so-called boiling action with the impeller and angled drum turning together. In the Choice magazine review of 63 and '64 it was given the highest overall rating together with the top loading Simpson. In those days we had more than 1 dozen manufacturers of washing machines because there was good profit to be made. Now we don't have a single Australian-owned manufacturer since Email was purchased by Electrolux.
LINK: http://au.photos.yahoo.com/bc/mooney6au/vwp?.dir=/Yahoo!+Photo+Album&.src=ph&.dnm=montywashing.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//au.photos.yahoo.com/bc/mooney6au/lst%3f%26.dir=/Yahoo!%2bPhoto%2bAlbum%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 9857-11/29/2001-06:25 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Flair Range on ebay
MESSAGE: And he's wrong about the dates. The Tappan Fabulous 400 was the first range of this style and it was introduced late 50s and the style took off from there, HOWEVER, some of the very first electric ranges from the early 1920s had ovens over the surface units, so the design was not really new in the late 50s, just recycled.
The 40 inch range has mismatched knobs. In 53 they were all white and in 54 they were all black on both 40 inch TOL models (single and double oven models).
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Post# 9858-11/29/2001-06:27 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Where & how do I send a brochure ?
MESSAGE: It was from old issues of Which or whatever the title was back then that I learned about the impeller in the Hoover tumbler.
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Post# 9859-11/29/2001-06:35 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Miss Jet Cone's wonderful collection (Suzy Homemaker Oven)
MESSAGE: There were two styles of the oven. The first one opened and you could get larger things into it. Then there were some kids who got burned so the later one had a slot where you slid the pans in so things were smaller. The mixes that went with the oven were not, of course, of Betty Crocker quality either. CU did not rate them more than mediocre.
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Post# 9860-11/29/2001-06:49 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Miss Jet Cone's wonderful collection
MESSAGE: Does anybody remember a Wolverine toy washer about 2 feet high with a clear plastic lid, pink sheet metal cabinet with sharp edges, a Frigidaire 3 ring agitator and a perforated basket? There was a crank on the side that made the washer work and and a switch on the control panel to shift it from wash to spin. It had some wonderful gear ration for the spin; you could really get it going and the bearings would let it coast for a long time. There was one in the Milton Bradley Toy Store in our shopping center that I used to visit. It was quite expensive. By the time I discovered it, I had also seen the real things in a couple of friends' houses so did not feel compelled to buy this, even if I had thought I would be allowed to keep it.
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Post# 9861-11/29/2001-07:04 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT: RE: Miss Jet Cone's wonderful collection
MESSAGE: Post some pictures of your toy washers. They were so much fun.
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Post# 9862-11/29/2001-07:10 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Flair Range on ebay
MESSAGE: What year did the colors come along?
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Post# 9863-11/29/2001-08:12 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigimore and Black Cat (Keymatic in action)
MESSAGE: I had a Keymatic for a while - it was in sad condition and it washed quite poorly so when I moved to the country it didn't come too. Now that I have been looking at this site and all enthused again a while I am keen to get my hands on another one.
The impeller (they called it a pulsator but it just spun around, it didn't pulsate) did nothing useful as far as I can see. Being a front loader the water level is quite low and the pulsator was just below the water, so the clothes don't move around inside the drum freely enough to be moved by the impeller. It just buzzed/droned away rubbing on the clothes without moving them. The wash action was all done by the tumbling, one direction only. Impossible to make it two way due to the design of the clutches. Ironically as the impeller was activated only on the normal and heavier wash cycles, which were only for 4 minutes tumble and "pulsate" whereas the delicate tumbled (no pulsator action) for 8 minutes, the washer worked better on delicate than normal/heavy duty cycles.
I checked this with some old techs who said this was normal. They said the clutch that drives the pulsator is fragile and has a short life, they always disconnected it and advised the customer to use the delicate cycle for a longer wash.
Does anyone know the origins of the Keymatic? I suspect it was originally a British design. The timer was made in Italy, I think.
I will try to send the brochure to Uni but it doesn't really fit the scanner so I might have to do it in bits.
Also Uni, I have an instruction card for an Aussie made Frigidaire machine - possibly early sixties? Not pretty, just black ink on pink cardboard, but you may be interested.
I will give it a try too.
Chris.
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Post# 9864-11/29/2001-08:55 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD-Maytag commercial washer (Most Common Automatic Washer)
MESSAGE: How many thousands of times have us North Amercians see this Maytag Coin-Op washer model??? I bet this was one of the most common, if not the most common, automatic washer ever produced in the world. I've seen them both in standard and large capacity, in White, Havest Gold, Avacado and Almond. I don't think I have ever seen a coppertone version of this machine.
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Post# 9865-11/29/2001-09:03 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigimore and Black Cat (Scan in Segments)
MESSAGE: Hi Chris, just scan the files in segments (with areas at the edge of the segments overlapping) and send me the individual files. I will bring them into Photoshop and meld them together. That is what I have do with so many of our Picture of the Day scans, as most of them were way too big to fit on the scanner in one piece.
Scan the Frigidaire card too Chris, it will be interesting for us to see. Thank you!
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Post# 9866-11/29/2001-09:08 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: '65 Frigidaire Turquoise Custom Imperial Dryer (Packing in Cardboard)
MESSAGE: Rich, they didn't crate it, but they put it in a huge carboard box and packed it nicely. Check out the first five photos out in this album...
By the way, the packing and shipping on this was done by Craters and Freighters.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/frigidaire1140/lst?.dir=/The+Pulsamatic&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/frigidaire1140/lst%3f.dir=/The%2bPulsamatic%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 9867-11/29/2001-09:11 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: '65 Frigidaire Turquoise Custom Imperial Dryer
MESSAGE: Hi Rich, how exciting, I'm sooo looking forward to seeing your collection. If you need help posting those pictures to a Yahoo Album, just ask, there's a lot of experts here at using yahoo photos, its really very easy. To sign up just go to this link, then select Sign up now, its located at the middle left of the screen.
LINK: http://login.yahoo.com/config/login?.src=ph&.done=http://photos.yahoo.com/&partner=&.intl=us
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Post# 9868-11/29/2001-10:12 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Flair Range on ebay
MESSAGE: Greg, which colors? dim bulb tom
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Post# 9869-11/29/2001-10:19 ||| Lenny (Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT: Suzy Homemaker Christmas Past
MESSAGE: Regarding the previous discussion on Suzy Homemaker toys:
As children in the 60's, my sisters had almost a whole kitchen of SuzyHomemaker toy appliances. Ill never forget that awsome bluish-green color. We had the Jet-Action washer, the oven with the bigger door that opened downward - also with the 'burners' that when you turned the switches on, some crude mechanism would push up an bright orange template into the burner to simulate a 'hot' burner!
The best unit in my mind was the Suzy HomeMaker DISHWASHER! That was so Awsome! You filled the 'console' part of the unit with 'hot' water and snapped the lid back on. Then you opened it up just like the oven. There was a small 'rack' that actually held several 'tea-set' cups and plates and 'silverware'. It had a small white impeller that looked like the propeller of a toy boat mounted in the bottom of the 'tub'. You would turn a dial on the console that would open a little valve and 'fill' water to a marked graduation on the tub floor. Another switch would turn on the motor and the impeller would actually splash water like crazy. The door had a large window in it to watch the action. Needless to say, I was mesmerized with this for YEARS!
There was also the SuzyHomemaker 'small-appliance' line that we had that included the SH Iron (lightbulb heat source), SH Blender, SH Mixmaster, and SH Vacuum cleaner. It was a virtual household and a child appliance lovers dream. Ill NEVER forget those greatest of simple, gadget-filled toys that made Christmases Past so unforgettable!
Lenny
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Post# 9870-11/29/2001-10:20 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: POD-Maytag commercial washer (Most Common Automatic Washer)
MESSAGE: My best friend from 5th through 8th grade was the son of a Baptist minister. In the small town where they had been before moving, to supplement his income, the father had a coin laundry with pink Maytag washers. These would have been those cheap looking Highlander machines in the mid to late 50s with the pilot light in the middle of the backsplash and the toggle switch for hot or warm water. I think the dryers were pink also. It seems it was called something like Mary Maytag Laundry.
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Post# 9871-11/29/2001-10:25 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Suzy Homemaker Christmas Past
MESSAGE: We got the SH DW for my sister, but all it did was splash a couple of drops on the door. I guess they tried to market everything except the
Suzie
Homemaker
Iced
Tea maker
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Post# 9872-11/29/2001-10:32 ||| Lenny (Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT: RE: Suzy Homemaker Christmas Past (60's = 'Suzy' + 'Girl' marketing)
MESSAGE: Tom, you got that right, they marketed just about everything that they felt a 'girl' in the 60's would want. Im surprised that they didnt market them in PINK to match the 'Suzy' image! I forget who the manufacturer of Suzy HomeMaker was ... I know it was'nt Kenner, the competitors (Eazy Bake Oven)!
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Post# 9873-11/29/2001-10:51 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator
MESSAGE: Ive often wondered, arrooohhh - are a lot of big, American-style top loaders sold in Australia? When I was in South Africa, I noticed very few, and they were usually tiny Japanese/Taiwanese models, except for a CoinOp in Johannesburg that had American Speed Queens. Ive seen ads for American Whirlpools on websites in UK and Germany, but never did know how many of the locals opt for these machines.
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Post# 9874-11/29/2001-10:58 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: Suzy Homemaker Christmas Past
MESSAGE: Christmas of 1967, my sis received the oven, which I remember being similar to the Kenner EZ Bake, because she did at least two cakes in it. That same xmas, my folks also got "her" the clothes washer, but secretly, everyone in the family knew it was for me. Sure enough, I left all my other presents and gravitated toward the washer. Sister never used it the whole time we had it, but I tore that thing apart and put it back together 3 or 4 times a week! As my memory has dimmed over the years, I cant remember the spin dry feature ever working. Hard to believe my sister would grow up to become a militant feminist wacko...
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Post# 9875-11/29/2001-11:11 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: POD-Maytag commercial washer (Most Common Automatic Washer)
MESSAGE: Seen 'em in coppertone in one coinop here in town, and youll notice on reruns of "Northern Exposure" that the Sicily laundromat is equipped with coppertone Maytags.
I could play devil's advocate and argue that the Speed Queen has always been most common, although I think you may be right.
I used to see GE all over the place - anybody else notice they are not as prevalent? I used to believe GE got out of the commercial business, until I saw a new generation (built after '97) GE coin operated model at a motel I stayed in a few months ago. And, Lowes Hardware carries a washer/dryer set that has a black and brushed steel control panel, and the label "Commercial" on it - I guess for apartments, resort cottages, nursing homes, &c, that supply the washer and dryer in-unit. But, Speed Queen Raytheon seems to have taken over by storm. When looking for a new home last year, I visited 6 apartment complexes all within a few years old. The community laundry rooms all had Speed Queen.
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Post# 9876-11/29/2001-11:17 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Suzy Homemaker Christmas Past
MESSAGE: I took me three years of begging my parents before I got my suzy homemaker washer at age 11. Of course my father told all his friends who would question my un-man-like toy washer that I liked it for the gears underneath. We all know better what I liked it for, washing clothes of course.
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Post# 9877-11/29/2001-11:17 ||| Lenny (Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT: Animated X-mas Gadgets
MESSAGE: This is off the 'appliance' topic a bit but speaking of Christmases.... Are any of you here into these neet Christmas decoration gadgets? I mean these really cool animated raindeer and angels with flapping wings etc. etc. I really enjoy these kind of things. But, I think that more that symbolizing the season, for me, these gadgets amuse and entertain my 'gadget' obsession! Im particularly fond of the 'fiber-optic' things that are so popular right now - especially if they're animated!
Lenny
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Post# 9878-11/29/2001-11:18 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Suzy Homemaker Christmas Past (60's = 'Suzy' + 'Girl' marketing)
MESSAGE: It was Topper.
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Post# 9879-11/29/2001-11:21 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD-Maytag commercial washer (Most Common Automatic Washer)
MESSAGE: You could be right but I suspect Speed Queen was number two.
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Post# 9880-11/29/2001-12:01 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Animated X-mas Gadgets (YES!)
MESSAGE: I love the animated Christmas stuff. There's a Christmas Carousel that works just like the real thing and it plays Christmas music like an old band organ can (carousel music). It looks and sounds beautiful. Being that I'm an amusement park enthusiast I MUST have one. Also I like the fiber optic angels (the wings change color). Some of the trailers here are already decorated. I'm going to decorate mine this weekend.
A few weeks ago I scored a Bing Crosby Christmas album (on original Decca label) and it plays perfect. When my family comes over, I'm going to play that record while we open our presents :). Now what to get Sir Frigmore for Christmas.
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Post# 9881-11/29/2001-12:06 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Suzy Homemaker Christmas Past (toy washer)
MESSAGE: I remember having a toy washer in the 70s. I don't know the name but it was all plastic. It was a twin-tub washer with I think 3 buttons, "wash, off, spin". The wash button started the agitator (well, it looked like a plastic wing nut) and the spin started the top-loading spin basket. It was small. I could only wash maybe 2 washcloths. The little impeller moved the washcloths. The little spin dryer did ok. I remember begging my mom at the toystore to get this.
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Post# 9882-11/29/2001-12:14 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Animated X-mas Gadgets
MESSAGE: I collect the Hallmark Star Trek Keepsake ornaments. I have all of them except the very first issue. I haven't put up a Christmas tree in probably five years, so the ornaments are simply displayed on shelves in my living room year-round. There's not a lot of "action" involved, but the larger ones light up or have recordings that play at the push of a button.
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Post# 9883-11/29/2001-12:40 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Suzy Homemaker Christmas Past (60's = 'Suzy' + 'Girl' marketing)
MESSAGE: Was it maybe Ideal or Hasbro, two other big toy makers?
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Post# 9884-11/29/2001-12:48 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: POD-Maytag commercial washer (Most Common Automatic Washer)
MESSAGE: I remember a coin-op laundry in Atlanta (on Ponce de Leon in the shopping center where the Plaza Pharmacy used to be and where the Majestic might still be) that had pre V-12 GE coin-op machines. I remember the sign from about 1957 "featuring GE washers."
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Post# 9885-11/29/2001-12:55 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Animated X-mas Gadgets
MESSAGE: Only Christmas things that ever rang my chimes were lights, especially old bubble lights. The made the tree shimmer. During the hellish Christmases of my childhood, I retreated into the beauty of the trees. This AM as I walked up from the subway, I caught a whiff of balsam as I passed a hotel with big wreaths on the windows. I am sure the desk clerk thought I was crazy as I stuck my face into the wreath to take a big sniff. I will probably do that every morning I can.
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Post# 9886-11/29/2001-13:01 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Animated X-mas Gadgets (YES!)
MESSAGE: Jason, the Smithsonian has a carousel with band organ on the mall here in Washington in the warmer months and I sometimes walk down there with a friend to listen to the music. What I would really love for them to get would be a steam calliope. Then there would be music and a boiler to supply steam and excitement, like the threat of explosion.
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Post# 9887-11/29/2001-13:03 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: 1953 Hotpoint Condenser Dryer & DW Commercials
MESSAGE: A big thanks to Glenn (DaDoes) who has set up extra server space to store videos for our Video Library. Jetcone has graciously offered to charge the $215.40 for a years worth of space. I’m going to post information about the club donation tonight.
To celebrate our new space I have posted two new commercials into the video library, One for the Harriet Nelson’s matching dryer to her Hotpoint Washer, the other for Harriet’s Hotpoint Dishwasher, after all it saves an hour of DISAGREEABLE work every day!
With this new space we will be able to post new videos without all the trouble of closed links and other problems we’ve had in the past. Enjoy. By the way, if there are any short video footage that you guys would like to share with the club, if you want to send me a copy I can digitize it and place it into our library.
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Post# 9888-11/29/2001-13:04 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Miss Jet Cone's wonderful collection (Frigidaire toy washer)
MESSAGE: Hi Tom
I remember that toy Frigidaire machine! When I was a kid, my dad was helping his friend move and I tagged along. The family had two little girls. When we got the first load over to the new house, I found a whole toy Frigidaire kitchen set up in their basement playroom...all in pink. I asked my dad if I could stay there while they got the next load of furniture and I was delighted when he said yes. (Of course, I didn't share my intentions of playing with a little girl's toy with him.) I had a blast with that washer. I found some old rags to put in, but the only problem was the water wasn't turned on yet, and there was no detergent. That was the coolest toy machine I've ever seen, and that was the only time I've ever seen one. I would love to stumble across one on Ebay sometime.
Rich
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Post# 9889-11/29/2001-13:06 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Animated X-mas Gadgets (YES!)
MESSAGE: Speaking of the mall, I have actually been among tourists coming up the escalator from the Smithsonian subway stop and heard them talking about looking for a pair of shoes since they would be at "the mall." You have no idea of the look of horror and puzzlement on those faces as they came out on this huge grassy, tree lined area.
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Post# 9890-11/29/2001-13:14 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Miss Jet Cone's wonderful collection (Frigidaire toy washer)
MESSAGE: Thanks, Rich. Sharing appliance memories is one of the best things about this club since it was the original "love that dared not speak its name" for most of us. Then some of us found the other one. Thanks again and best wishes to you both and the doggies. How's the new kitten?
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Post# 9891-11/29/2001-13:32 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD-Maytag commercial washer
MESSAGE: Hi Robert! You're definitely right about me being a night owl (lol)...it's only been in recent years here in Minneapolis that front loaders have begun to take the limelight in laundromats, at least in most places. They've always been around, but as new laundromats open and old ones remodeled, the toploaders seem to be fading more into the background. One new one that opened in my neighborhood a few months ago has mostly Neptunes and I don't think they have any toploaders at all. They also have some larger stainless steel frontloaders.
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Post# 9892-11/29/2001-13:37 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Flair Range on ebay
MESSAGE: Hi Tom, I didn't know before that Tappan was first with this style range. I like the Frigidaire version slightly better, but I've always liked the name "Fabulous 400" LOL.
As far as this particular Flair is concerned, I would probably pass it by. I have seen enough of them at sales and on Ebay to know that there are still a fair amount of them around, most in far better condition than that one.
Another thing I don't know if everyone knows is that the metal cabinet underneath is an option, it's not really part of the range. You could buy just the range part and build it in to your own cabinets as well.
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Post# 9893-11/29/2001-13:44 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD-Maytag commercial washer (Most Common Automatic Washer)
MESSAGE: That sounds cool Tom! I thought Maytag had been a relative late comer to the coin op industry, but I guess not! What fun it would be to see those machines now.
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Post# 9894-11/29/2001-13:46 ||| Animatedfart (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: POD - Kenmore dual-action agitator (Power agitator)
MESSAGE: Yes, I have seen the commercial and was shock to see that the frigidaire had an Hi-rollover rate over the Kenmore Dual Action Agitator. I've used both machine and the Kenmore is still gentle on the clothes like todays new direct drive machine. Only if you make sure you use the right water level and cycle for the proper fabric care.
In my parent's apartment, that old belt drive with the dual action agitator is still running after 19 years with one motor, belt and pump replacement. That old girl still running good doing close to 7-12 loads a week.
And as for the dryer which is 2 years younger than the washer had a lint filter screen, drive belt and drum roller replacement and I was the one who done the repairs and that shows that these machince was made to last for many years with low maintance.
Man I wish they would show that commercial on TV Land when ``I love Lucy" comes on.
And did you know that Kenmore was the only machine to have this agitator for close to 10 to 14 years before Whirlpool incorperated it into their line of machines before
the others manufactures follow suite?
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Post# 9895-11/29/2001-13:51 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Animated X-mas Gadgets (YES!)
MESSAGE: Oh Tom, that is just a frightening thought! LOL
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Post# 9896-11/29/2001-14:06 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Miss Jet Cone's wonderful collection (Brooklyn Robert's collection)
MESSAGE: Ed, here are some pictures of Brooklyn Robert's collection he took and had me post awhile ago. I'll put a link in the links too. If you go to the museum section of the club under Whirlpool, there are some more shots there of his beautiful RCA Whirlpool washer. Scott
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/whirlpoolbklyn/lst?.dir=/My+Collection&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/whirlpoolbklyn/lst%3f.dir=/My%2bCollection%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 9897-11/29/2001-14:23 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: Welcome new member
MESSAGE: Animatedfart joined today. I'd seen his name on That Home Site's Appliances once or twice and was wondering if he'd ever slide on over here. He did. Glad you're here, hope you feel at home with the rest of us. Please tell us about your fascination with appliances.
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Post# 9898-11/29/2001-14:37 ||| animatedfart (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome new member
MESSAGE: I'm in Appliance Heaven!!!!1
I may be 37 years old, but washing machine is my favorite product to read and write about!
And by the way, my parent's has an old belt drive Dual Action Agitator and I had the liberty to change the agitator with the Penta-vane, Whirlpool Sugilator and I can say that all three can handle very large loads with ease and as for roll over performance, the Dual Action and the Whirlpool Sugilator circulate large loads better than the Penta-Vane. But when the water level was set at medium the Penta-Vane rolls the clothes faster than the other two.
Thanks for a great website!
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Post# 9899-11/29/2001-14:49 ||| Animatedfart (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome new member
MESSAGE: Oh, I forgot that I even install the Super Roto Swirl and the Three vane straight agitator in the same machine and it didn't handle large load because it was meant to be in 24" large capacity machine. I'm still looking for the Penta-Swirl agitator to see if it lives up to the Sears catalog ads.
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Post# 9900-11/29/2001-15:37 ||| lbcarguy (Long Beach, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Americana Refrigerator
MESSAGE: Yes,
This is the one with the bottom freezer and work area between the refrigerator on top. I would estimate the capacity at 18 cubic feet. The freezer is huge. Even has an icemaker.
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Post# 9901-11/29/2001-16:43 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT: RE: Suzy Homemaker Christmas Past (toy washer)
MESSAGE: OMG - I had completely forgotten about that toy washer I had. I don't think it was the same, it wasn't a twin-tub. It was rather large and green. I remember the agitator was part of the tub, so when it agitated the tub moved as well. The tub was tapered as it went down so the bottom was very narrow. I don't remember it spining. I had a lot of fun with that toy. I wonder what happened to it.
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Post# 9902-11/29/2001-16:45 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT: RE: POD-Maytag commercial washer (Most Common Automatic Washer)
MESSAGE: As a kid, I remember Speed Queen accounting for the vast majority of laundramats - with Frigidaire and GE making up the rest. I don't remember seeing a Maytag in a laundry until I was in college.
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Post# 9903-11/29/2001-16:52 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Suzy Homemaker Christmas Past (toy wringer washer)
MESSAGE: I can acually rememeber when I was 3 years old getting a Wolverine toy wringer washer for Christmas. (I think it was given to me to help me recover from the emotional trauma of getting my arm pulled into my mom's wringer washer the year before.) It was pink and had a white metal agitator. By the time my parents got the camera, I had the toy washer taken apart...the wringer pulled off, the agitator removed, and three of the four legs ripped off the body. Ha! My mom still has this picture in an album.
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Post# 9904-11/29/2001-17:16 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Flair Range on ebay
MESSAGE: Yes, there were lots of colors over the years... The first year colors were offered - was it '55?
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Post# 9905-11/29/2001-17:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Animated X-mas Gadgets
MESSAGE: I started the airplane series (Hallmark) for Skyler 5 years go when he first came. We have them all on "Orn-a-motion" ornament motors. They are tiny little motors that plug into a light bulb socket in the light string - too cool. It's hard to see the ornaments as I went a little overboard and put 1100 lights on a 7 foot tree - if I had a skylight the FAA would probably make me turn it off!
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Post# 9906-11/29/2001-17:29 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1953 Hotpoint Condenser Dryer & DW Commercials
MESSAGE: How wonderful - thanks for everyone's effort!
Tomorrow, I'll be picking up my tape of Maytag commercials plus some added bonus commercials that the guy at the video store had on tape - tons of them from the 50's!
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Post# 9907-11/29/2001-17:57 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Suzy Homemaker Christmas Past (All these toys!!)
MESSAGE: I must have missed something when I was little, I had this (link) little washer/dryer set and I remember when my mother came home from a trip to NYC, she brought me a tiny clear domed dishwasher. It clearly said DO NOT USE WATER, but I did and that was the end of my appliance toys. I do remember the little play kitchen sets, but no washer toys. Wrong decade for the fun!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/My+Appliance+Life...&.src=ph&.dnm=First+washer+dryer+-+age+4.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/My%2bAppliance%2bLife...%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 9908-11/29/2001-18:01 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Suzy Homemaker Christmas Past (All these toys!!)
MESSAGE: That picture could *so* be me Greg...we even wore the same kind of clothes! I always wore plaid pants, all through the 70s.
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Post# 9909-11/29/2001-18:02 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Suzy Homemaker Christmas Past (All these toys!!)
MESSAGE: I'm not sure, but I would bet my entire outfit was home-sewn.
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Post# 9910-11/29/2001-18:05 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Suzy Homemaker Christmas Past (All these toys!!)
MESSAGE: ...and you never would have seen me in anything less than 3" heels with 1 or 2" platforms...flats just would *not* do. I had both all black ones and black with woodgrained heels and platforms. ;-)
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Post# 9911-11/29/2001-18:09 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Where & how do I send a brochure ? (Theee Keymatic!!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Gizmo
Welcome to the club, I sure you`l find it very enjoyable!!
The Brit pack have been busy trying to track down the 1961 slpoe front keymatic since the convention in Minneapolis...
Would love to see the instructions,
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 9912-11/29/2001-18:15 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigimore and Black Cat (Welcome to the group)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg
Looks like we could have more info on the Keymatic and coming from your neck of the woods....
Your cats name Monty caused a shudder... next door neighbours cat called Monty last month managed to crawl into the tumble dryer, had to run him to the vets, owners too distraught to drive..luckily only for five cooldown minutes...might have lost a few lives that day but he`s fine now, just wants to make friends with the schnitzels (they dont)....
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 9913-11/29/2001-18:20 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Animated X-mas Gadgets (Trees Are Us)
MESSAGE: Hi Glen
Go on put the tree up ....
with the trekkies on and take a pic...
I`ll check with my mate who runs one of the trekkie clubs here to see if he knows of the firsts....
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 9914-11/29/2001-18:25 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Animated X-mas Gadgets (Icicles!!!)
MESSAGE: Tom
Carry on sniffing I say....breatheasy..
My grandad had a very old set of "Icicle Lights long tubes of glass filled with water and snow.. sat on the bulb in a holder, when warm they bubbled furiously...
That was my first intro into voltage/resistance/amps etc..one went faulty & melted so I took it out of the circuit only for another one to go same way...so took that one out...not realising more out equals higher wattage and more heat and....on etc.. well was only 12 at the time, fast learning curve...
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 9915-11/29/2001-18:27 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Suzy Homemaker Christmas Past (All these toys!!)
MESSAGE: Greg, I had the same little set, but also a stove and dishwasher!
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Post# 9916-11/29/2001-18:31 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Suzy Homemaker Christmas Past (toy wringer washer)
MESSAGE: Hi Rich
Sounds like a christmas not to remember, did the wringer washer have a safety release etc or was it yank the plug out the wall type...
Did I read you have a kitten with the schnitzels!!!!ours really would think christmas had come early...
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 9917-11/29/2001-18:35 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome new member
MESSAGE: Hi Bob
Yes welcome also to "Animatedfart" lots more new members..
Bob, could you send a test mail again, have been responding since sunday and keep getting bouncebacks with server error etc...even up to half hour ago...
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 9918-11/29/2001-18:40 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: New UK Hotpoint Toy Washer..
MESSAGE: Hi Robert
Just seen your pics that Scott has just posted!!!!
Where did you get the toy Hotpoint Aquarius washer in grey, was it from UK or are they selling them with you???
Love the black washer & dryer, very kool..
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 9919-11/29/2001-18:44 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Suzy Homemaker Christmas Past (All these toys!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Scott
Now any pictures of that!!!.....if youre not careful they will all end up in the big "This is your 40th Life" picture album at the family party....watch out...ouch, was that a Minneapolis slappppp
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 9920-11/29/2001-18:47 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Suzy Homemaker Christmas Past (All these toys!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg
Or was it Gingham... as long as you enjoyed it...
I only remember a Hoover toy Twin Tub over here, little metal one with a a wind up handle on each side for the pulsator and spinner...
Cheers, Mike
p.s. did you get your hoses etc for the Hoover twintub portable, or would you like me to check them out??
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Post# 9921-11/29/2001-18:49 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1953 Hotpoint Condenser Dryer & DW Commercials
MESSAGE: Wonderful Greg, then we can digitize those Maytag commercials and put them into the library.
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Post# 9922-11/29/2001-18:59 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Suzy Homemaker Christmas Past (All these toys!!)
MESSAGE: Well fortunately for me Mikey the house will be closed up for winter by then with those pictures safely inside, but maybe next year I'll dig some out and scan them....I could always be counted upon to be on the cutting edge of fashion, spending much of the decade swaddled in polyester as I did.. ;-) Scott
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Post# 9923-11/29/2001-19:00 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT: RE: Suzy Homemaker Christmas Past (All these toys!!)
MESSAGE: I had the same translucent toy machines in this pic. They were really cool - the agitator, if I remember correctly, was very fast. They were very small, but my mother bought me a few sets of doll clothes (I did NOT play with dolls) to put in the machines.
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Post# 9924-11/29/2001-19:03 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Suzy Homemaker Christmas Past (1969 Wish Book)
MESSAGE: How cute Greg! I think I found your toys in the 1969 Sears Catalog Wish Book, check this out...
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/kenmore525/vwp?.dir=/Sears+Appliance+Toys&.dnm=SearsKitchenToys.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 9925-11/29/2001-19:06 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigimore and Black Cat (Cat Life Count Down)
MESSAGE: Reminds me of a woman I used to work with. She had lost a cat when it crswled up on top of the garage door opener. After being very upset, her husband got her another cat. This one liked to curl up in bed with them. One night they, uh, weren't paying attention to the cat. It ended up under the sheets and them and smothered a bit. Her husband, fearing for his future sex life, geve the cat mouth-to-mouth. The cat is more or less fine, but has a tendency to walk into walls.
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Post# 9926-11/29/2001-19:07 ||| Ironrite (Las Vegas NV)
SUBJECT: RE: Miss Jet Cone's wonderful collection (Grocery Store Stuff)
MESSAGE: As a kid the Suzy Homemaker collection was sold in our local Safeway store in Phoenix. I had an unusual toy washer at the time, was a wringer model, with a glass body. The top came off with either two or three plungers. When you turned the crank, the plungers would work up and down. I believe I got this as I could then "help" my mother with the wash and would be like her wringer Maytag. I wanted the whole collection of them!
My younger brother and I instead got Deluxe Reading Playmobiles. As cars were and still are a great passion with me, we about wore the Playmobiles out. They were a replica of what might have been a Ford dashboard. They had working wipers, turnsignals, a fake cigarette lighter to "light" our candy cigarettes. It was a wonderful toy, and now looking at eBay, wish I still had it!
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Post# 9927-11/29/2001-19:08 ||| washrfreak (Dallas)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome new member
MESSAGE: Hey bob,
I thought it was just me. My mail to you is getting bounced too. Server black listed error.
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Post# 9928-11/29/2001-19:23 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Suzy Homemaker Christmas Past (1969 Wish Book)
MESSAGE: ah, that's when toys were toys!
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Post# 9929-11/29/2001-19:25 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome new member
MESSAGE: Welcome to the club. Love the name you came up with. Tom
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Post# 9930-11/29/2001-19:30 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Suzy Homemaker Christmas Past (1969 Wish Book)
MESSAGE: Wow, that's great! I vaguely recall having the sink/cabinet as well.
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Post# 9931-11/29/2001-19:36 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Suzy Homemaker Christmas Past (toy wringer washer)
MESSAGE: Rich, how did you plan to wash clothes in it after you had killed it? I had the same machine, I think. Wasn;t the wringer white also? A couple of weeks ago when a friend from Boston was here we went through the big antiques malls in the Frederick and Hagerstown areas and I actually saw the little electric stoves my brother and I got for Christmas in 1954. There were 4 buttons, red, green, blue and yellow which did not really make sense for surface unit controls. The antiques places did not have the set of little red plastic pans that we got with the stoves; there was even a pressure cooker in the set. I remember when we were in the store and dad was buying the stoves that the more deluxe version actually plugged in so he did not get that one for fear of electrocution or something. It was neat to see my first stove again, but I much prefer the ones I have now, first to last, electric.
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Post# 9932-11/29/2001-19:39 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Flair Range on ebay
MESSAGE: No, not 55, because that stove was either a 53 or 54 and it was in color. Even the WO-65 was offered in those two colors the last year of production. Robert will know for sure.
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Post# 9933-11/29/2001-19:43 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Animated X-mas Gadgets
MESSAGE: We had an artificial tree that had so many lights we had to run a heavy duty extension cord halfway up the trunk for the top of it and use another cord for the bottom half and put it on two separate circuits. We would shut off the heat in the living room while the tree was up because of all the heat from the C-7 bulbs. Daddy used to say I was a very frustrated Jew trying to celebrate the feast of lights with a Christmas tree.
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Post# 9934-11/29/2001-19:46 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Suzy Homemaker Christmas Past (All these toys!!)
MESSAGE: Greg, speaking of dishwashers, at one place, I found one of those Youngstown Jet Tower dishwasher toys in plastic, but they wanted about $150 and for that money, I can have a real dishwasher or two or three.
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Post# 9935-11/29/2001-19:52 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Animated X-mas Gadgets (Icicles!!!)
MESSAGE: WOW! Never heard of lights like that. A miniature blizzard in each tube. The first bubble lights had carbon tetrachloride in them. When that fact came out, the manufacturers tried to put a positive spin on a poisonous compound by saying that if the tree caught fire, the tubes would break and the carbon tet would extinguish the fire; never mind that the gas would sicken anyone around the conflagration. What pleasant Christmas thoughts.
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Post# 9936-11/29/2001-19:52 ||| trainguy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: '65 Frigidaire Turquoise Custom Imperial Dryer
MESSAGE: Robert, Thanks so much for the link. I'm now signed up in Yahoo. I'm very excited to start my album. In addition to everything else, I want to show everyone the "twins" I bought tonight. I have been sending out flyers to all the used appliance dealers in the tri-state area. One called me yesterday and I went to his store today. He had two DD-64 dryers. One is like new (complete) and the other is excellent plus (missing the back black panel). He claims to run across GM Frigidaires quite often. He said he always scraps them - until now. His main thing is used Kenmores and Whirlpools.
I'll work on the album after the Steeler game on Sunday. Thanks again. Rich
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Post# 9937-11/29/2001-20:01 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Suzy Homemaker Christmas Past (All these toys!!)
MESSAGE: My mother cut some strips of old sheet or something for my brother and me to wash in these little plastic wringer washers we had. They were round with little lift off lids and a small 3 vane agitator that you could move back and forth by grabbing it by the top with thumb and finger. They were small and probably not meant to be used, I think one of them was blue. I wonder what our poor parents thought when their boys wanted appliances for presents. Then I remember having a washer with a gray tub, clear lid and red agitator. You drained the water, lifted out the agitator and put in a gray plastic basket, hey maybe like Mikey's new machine, turned the switch to dry and it would spin. But the real one was always the one I enjoyed watching the most.
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Post# 9938-11/29/2001-20:03 ||| DADoES (El Campo, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Animated X-mas Gadgets (Icicles!!!)
MESSAGE: My paternal grandparents had some kind of bubble lights but I don't recall any "snow" particles. My sisters and I always got to decorate grandpa's tree, and all the other grandkids lived elsewhere and missed out and got pissy about it once that I can recall. 8-)
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Post# 9939-11/29/2001-20:06 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Miss Jet Cone's wonderful collection (Grocery Store Stuff)
MESSAGE: We had a car dashboard also, but what I remember was that when you turned the wheel to the right, the speedometer went to 100 or 110 and when you turned the steering wheel to the left the speedometer went to zero. Maybe ours was older and cruder, sorta like me today.
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Post# 9940-11/29/2001-20:09 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Flair Range on ebay
MESSAGE: It was in the middle of the 1954 line that Frigidaire started offering colors, I believe this '54 range in Stradford Yellow to be an extremely rare find.
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Post# 9941-11/29/2001-20:16 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: The Club Donation
MESSAGE: As we had talked about starting in Post #9267 we needed to purchase a some separate server space to house our large video files. DaDoes (Glenn) was kind enough to arrange 500mb of space for us at the ISP he works for in Texas, and he was able to arrange it at a very reasonable cost of $215 for 1 year worth of space. (Thanks Glenn!!!) Total yearly costs for us to run this web site are now $240 for the base Classic Appliances Server (which I have paid for) and $215 for the extra video space/bandwidth (which Jetcone has paid for), giving us a grand total of $455 per year. Since at least 16 members have pledged a small donation, what Jetcone and I have decided to do is split the donations and place them towards the total $455 cost.
I want to make sure that it is very clear to everyone in Applianceville that there is absolutely no pressure to make a donation. Those members who cannot or do not want to make a donation will not be thought of as any less of a member than those whose have been able to donate. Not everyone has the ability to give at all times of their lives. I'm going to collect the donations and I will send Jon his half once they all have come in. If you would like to donate to support the cost of Appliancevilles' internet servers you can do one of the two things:
You can Paypal the cash to me, Paypal allows you to wire money directly to an email address using your credit card. Their web address is http://www.paypal.com. You'll need to send it to me by using my Paypal member name which is: Unimatic1140@yahoo.com.
The other method is to send me a check in the mail. Since many of you already have my mailing address I wont post if here, but if you need my mailing address, just email me at: Unimatic1140@yahoo.com and I will email you back with my address.
Now as for the amount, that's up to you and your current financial status, somewhere between $10 and $20 (US Dollars), between all of us, this should help cover at least the $215 that Jetcone is paying for the extra space.
I'll keep a running tally of what we received and update everyone as to how much we collected. Finally, I'm not sure what to do about this so I need your guys' input so we can decided as a group. Do you guys want to see a list of who donated, or should we keep this anonymous? Something to think about.
Thanks everyone
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Post# 9942-11/29/2001-21:24 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: POD-Maytag commercial washer (Most Common Automatic Washer)
MESSAGE: In these parts (Connecticut), Maytag is clearly the prevalent top loading laundromat maching, with Huebsch (I believe that is Speed Queen) running a close second - and almost no GE. I also recall seeing those Maytags in gold, white and almond here, but never in avocado or coppertone. MAybe it was a regional thing.................
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Post# 9943-11/29/2001-21:27 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Animated X-mas Gadgets (Trees Are Us)
MESSAGE: Mike I'm not bothering to put up a tree this year myself--I'll be spending it with my sister in Dallas, I won't even be here, so why bother.
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Post# 9944-11/29/2001-21:38 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Suzy Homemaker Christmas Past (All these toys!!)
MESSAGE: I had the pink Volverine washer with the blue agi-tub washer inside with the crank. Like the one Gary gave Rich last Christmas. Mine rusted pretty quickly. Wasn't designed for my heavy use--see even at age 7 or 8 I was into heavy washer use. My "wash" werre little felt strips from the holiday decorating.
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Post# 9945-11/29/2001-21:41 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Suzy Homemaker Christmas Past (All these toys!!)
MESSAGE: Being older than y'all, I wore plaid bell-bottomed knit/polyester pants all the way through jur. high & high-school. Height of fashion. Even knits through college. Didn't own my first pair of jeans until 1982. I remembered jeans being too hot for the gbrace as a child.
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Post# 9946-11/29/2001-21:44 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome new member
MESSAGE: Okay, it's so nice to know I'm so loved!!! I'll call my ISP tomorrow and complain.
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Post# 9947-11/29/2001-21:47 ||| spambdamn (San Leandro, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Suzy Homemaker Christmas Past (All these toys!!)
MESSAGE: I remember wearing peg-leg pants in the early 60's in grammar school. Then "normal" pants in the mid-60's, and finally bell-bottoms in the late 60's and early 70's. I think I wore bell-bottom or flare leg pants a bit longer than fashion dictated because I liked that they could be rolled up to put on boots, etc. Made riding a bicycle challenging, though!
I succesfully avoided the whole polyester phase of the mid-to-late 70's. No plaid pants, either, but I think I started the whole plaid wool work shirt fad... ;-)
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Post# 9948-11/29/2001-21:49 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Animated X-mas Gadgets (Icicles!!!)
MESSAGE: I loved our bubble lights too. Very 50s and early 60s.
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Post# 9949-11/29/2001-21:49 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Animated X-mas Gadgets (I'm with you Greg!)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg, Your tree sounds great. I have a 6 1/2 foot tree with 1100 lights on it. I do love a lot of lights on the tree. I use a power strip to plug them all into as I was worried there might be an over load. It makes the whole room look bright.
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Post# 9950-11/29/2001-21:52 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome new member (My email server)
MESSAGE: Ed & Mike, JasonL just got email through to me with no prob.
Bob
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Post# 9951-11/29/2001-21:55 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Miss Jet Cone's wonderful collection (Grocery Store Stuff)
MESSAGE: Tom, was this the Play Mobile?
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Post# 9952-11/29/2001-21:56 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Suzy Homemaker Christmas Past (All these toys!!)
MESSAGE: I wore that stuff at least through high school, the platform shoes probably through about 1981 or 2 thereabouts...plaid, knit, polyester, wide legs, etc etc. LOL
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Post# 9953-11/29/2001-22:06 ||| Whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome new member
MESSAGE: Hi;
Welcome to the club! I thought I was the only one in Brooklyn that was "Washing Machine Lover". I live in Williamsburg, where do you live?
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Post# 9954-11/29/2001-22:06 ||| Ironrite (Las Vegas NV)
SUBJECT: RE: Miss Jet Cone's wonderful collection (Grocery Store Stuff)
MESSAGE: Yes, exactly! I forgot, when you turned the wheel the speedometer moved. It also had a buzzer for the horn too. Usually the Playmobiles, Suzy Homemakers, Johnny Expresses and other "huge" toys were sold over either the frozen foods or vegetable departments in that Safeway.
As we would make "marathon" trips from Phoenix to either Detroit or Los Angeles each summer, we had fun "reliving" those trips once we got home. They were a lot of fun for the imagination.
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Post# 9955-11/29/2001-22:07 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome new member
MESSAGE: Hi Robert! Someone asked after your pictures earlier, so I put a link in the links section! Remember the ones you took earlier this year with your collection and toys? :-)
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Post# 9956-11/29/2001-22:08 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: The Club Donation
MESSAGE: I vote anonymous!!!!
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Post# 9957-11/29/2001-22:16 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Suzy Homemaker Christmas Past (All these toys!!)
MESSAGE: Platforms were just too impractical with the brace. But, I did finally get to branch out of basic black orthopedic shouls and get some brown ones and some two-toned navy blue & neutral.
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Post# 9958-11/29/2001-22:22 ||| Whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: New UK Hotpoint Toy Washer..
MESSAGE: Hi Mike;
Yes; I bought that one on ebay and had it shipped from the UK all the way to Brooklyn! It's great, you cannot put water in it, but it has real machine sounds! I'm glad you like my collection. I have a few more since this picture was taken. Now you all know what I buy on ebay at night while I'm working. I can answer the phone, send patrol cars to an incident, and bid on a auction all at once. I just cannot type or spell! (lol)
"Brooklyn Robert"
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Post# 9959-11/29/2001-22:29 ||| Whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Welcome new member
MESSAGE: Hi Scott;
That's great you need a better picture of me! I had worked all night and my company came at 8:00am in the morning that day, I had no sleep a look very puffy in the face! (lol) I'm going to email you something check you mail!
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Post# 9960-11/29/2001-22:32 ||| Whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: The Club Donation
MESSAGE: Let me know how much and where to send my check, money order, cash,! etc. Please leave feedback for me! (lol)
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Post# 9961-11/29/2001-22:52 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The Club Donation
MESSAGE: I sort of agree with you Bob, but wanted to get the opinion of the club.
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Post# 9962-11/29/2001-22:53 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The Club Donation
MESSAGE: Robert all the info is in post # 9941
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Post# 9963-11/29/2001-23:00 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Live Modern for Less with Gas
MESSAGE: For those of you who are like me and love vintage televison, I stumbled upon this site tonight. Select Ozzie and Harriet...
LINK: http://www.aentv.com/golden_years/
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Post# 9964-11/29/2001-23:20 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Suzy Homemaker Christmas Past (Twin-Tub Washing)
MESSAGE: Gingham, taffeta, all very pretty...
I haven't done anything with the Hoover twinnie yet. I did pick up a fitting at the hardware store that may work, but it will take a few more parts to get hooked to the faucet and will probably still work. I have pics of the machine so I should email those to you and you can check on availability there.
I used my Maytag twinnie the other night just for fun - well, it sounded like fun at the time. After 45 minutes of constant work, I finished one load. Luckily, it was the last one of the night so I quit. I've been using that little machine for spinning from the top-loaders to save on drying time, works well for that. I snapped a bunch of pics of my endeavor, will have to post those this weekend.
Hope all is well, good to hear from you - Greg
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Post# 9965-11/29/2001-23:21 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1953 Hotpoint Condenser Dryer & DW Commercials
MESSAGE: Maytag dishwasher & dryer, some New Blue Cheer commercials at a Unimatic laundromat, on and on..... Lots of fun stuff and I only saw about 5 minutes of what's on the tape!
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Post# 9966-11/29/2001-23:23 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Suzy Homemaker Christmas Past (1969 Wish Book)
MESSAGE: Very cool - I've seen some of these on ebay, but not the washer and dryer.
Only 3.77! Such a bargain for hours of enjoyment!
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Post# 9967-11/29/2001-23:26 ||| whirlpoolbklyn (Brooklyn, New York)
SUBJECT: RE: The Club Donation
MESSAGE: Hi Robert;
I'll send you my donation this week! Have a great night!
"Brooklyn Robert
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Post# 9968-11/29/2001-23:29 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Flair Range on ebay
MESSAGE: You should have it then, to match your gold dishwasher. Uh, I mean Stratford Yellow, of course! ;-)
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Post# 9969-11/29/2001-00:44 ||| calypso bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: Picture of the day (MAYTAG)
MESSAGE: In case anyone is interested I had the same Maytag washers
in my Laundromat when I took it over in 1993. I replaced them with current top load Maytags of the time. When I replaced
the old machines they were vintage 1975. They lasted quite a long time. They don't make them like they used too!!!.
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Post# 9970-11/29/2001-00:48 ||| calypso bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: GE Picture of the day
MESSAGE: I would love to find a pair of these!!!. I am guessing that
they were from the early 60's. Anyone know?. I have never
seen a set in person, only in mags.
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Post# 9971-11/30/2001-02:31 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Suzy Homemaker Christmas Past (Twin-Tub Washing)
MESSAGE: Greg, how is rinsing handled in the Maytag? Can you do it in the spinner, or do you have to put the clothes back in the washer part with clear water?
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Post# 9972-11/30/2001-03:05 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Animated X-mas Gadgets (Icicles!!!)
MESSAGE: Tom
I guess no trading standards around to stop us having fun...LOL
Do you have Tree of Light festivals at Christmas or other times, they have become more of a symbol over here for Dec 1 World Aids Day etc..
Mike
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Post# 9973-11/30/2001-03:08 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: The Club Donation
MESSAGE: I say anonymous...
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Post# 9974-11/30/2001-03:20 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: New UK Hotpoint Toy Washer..
MESSAGE: Hi Robert
I`ll keep my eyes open for other UK toy washer stuff for you...
I`ve had more luck with the vacs recently, like yourself search e-bay while working at night, just won a Hoover 700 with box & tools etc, Scott had kindly agreed to ship it...
Mike
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Post# 9975-11/30/2001-03:25 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Suzy Homemaker Christmas Past (Twin-Tub Washing)
MESSAGE: Hi Scott
Was thinking the same thing...
The dexter twin tub posted a few weeks ago.. did that have a spinner or was it just two wash tubs??
Hop you are enjoying the first snows, those news pics look wonderful and christmassy
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 9976-11/30/2001-04:00 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: SuzyHomemaker/Playmobile
MESSAGE: Hi Guys,
The Suzy Homemaker toys were made by "Topper", which was previously known as "Reading Deluxe" The toy washer was very similar in design to the bouncing tub Apex washers of the 50's where the whole tub ocillated to wash the clothes. I have the washer, dishwasher, stove, & ice cream maker, which were marketed under the name "Topper" They also made the "Playmobile" which was a fabulous dashboard of a car with working horn, wipers, turnsignals, and running motor. I have one of those too, got it for Christmas in 1963! They were only sold thru grocery stores but were of incredible design. Actually they did a host of wonderful toys: Crusader 101 (a large working model of a car) Debbies Dream House ( a wonderful Brady Bunch style ranch house with fully outfitted furniture, working doorbell, lights, etc: The Dream Kitchen (it had stove, refrig, dishwasher, washer/dryer, dishes, table & chairs, food boxes, etc). These are relatively easy items to find on ebay. Just type in "Reading Deluxe" on the search and a host of items come up. Will post pics of my stuff soon, I just bought a new house and am moving all this stuff to it!!!! Jimmy in Cuyahoga Falls
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Post# 9977-11/30/2001-05:08 ||| Scottdamit (Bright Indiana)
SUBJECT: RE: The Club Donation
MESSAGE: I vote for anonymous.
SD
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Post# 9978-11/30/2001-06:53 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Flair Range on ebay
MESSAGE: Uh, don't even temp me, thank goodness the knobs don't match.
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Post# 9979-11/30/2001-06:55 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Picture of the day
MESSAGE: Bruce I would say that the brochure was from about '64 or '65.
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Post# 9980-11/30/2001-06:59 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: The Club Donation
MESSAGE: Well it sounds like anonymous is anonymous, so thats what we'll do. I will however post how much we've collected. Thanks again everyone for your support of our club.
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Post# 9981-11/30/2001-07:05 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: The Club Donation
MESSAGE: Robert, I see no reason why you should foot the $240, especially in light of all the rest that you do, while we just help with the $215. I do think it is time to get this thing organized so that finances can be handled in a responsible manner. It takes very little effort to stand by doing nothing while others carry the load. Those who claim to derive benefit from the club should be aware of their responsibilities to the club. While those of us who are in the fortunate position to be able to give more certainly will, I think everybody who values the club should consider supporting it, even in the amount of $5 or so. I will have cash for you when I see you in a couple of weeks. Maybe by then we will have a clearer picture of what is needed to lift the primary financial burden of this club off your shoulders. Tom
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Post# 9982-11/30/2001-07:08 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Animated X-mas Gadgets (bubble lights)
MESSAGE: More like late 40s and early 50s.
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Post# 9983-11/30/2001-07:09 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Miss Jet Cone's wonderful collection (Grocery Store Stuff)
MESSAGE: I dunno.
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Post# 9984-11/30/2001-07:15 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Suzy Homemaker Christmas Past (Twin-Tub Washing)
MESSAGE: You'll have to wait for the pictures! There has to be a little suspense! :-)
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Post# 9985-11/30/2001-07:18 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Miss Jet Cone's wonderful collection (Grocery Store Stuff)
MESSAGE: Something else that used to be sold near the produce department in the grocery stores long ago when I was a child, but not for the past 25 years here, were those little 2 to 3 foot high Christmas trees in various colors that were stuck in a metal base that had some sort of preservative in it. The trees were the tops of real trees and were either sort of lightly flocked white, pink, pale blue, dark green or silver. The flocking smelled so good to me and the little trees were generally so cute and well shaped.
This morning it was in the 60s as I walked past the hotel so the wreaths were very fragrant. I sniffed one where I could not be seen by the desk clerk.
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Post# 9986-11/30/2001-07:21 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: New UK Hotpoint Toy Washer.. (poor typing skills)
MESSAGE: Robert, I just blame the poor typing on washing my hands so often that I can't do a thing with my fingers. It sounds funnier than having rotten coordination and bad brains.
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Post# 9987-11/30/2001-07:23 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Flair Range on ebay
MESSAGE: I had a babysitter last night whose mother is a long time friend of mine. She usually comes to pick up her daughter as they live quite a distance from us. Mom's ex husband (who left for another man - quite a scandal!) came by my house last night when they were here and made a huge fuss over my '58 range. Said it should be painted, the color was outdated and ugly!
As if!! Santa will be leaving a turd in his stocking....
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Post# 9988-11/30/2001-07:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Animated X-mas Gadgets (bubble lights)
MESSAGE: In a catalog not that long ago, I saw the bubble light-style night light - a client has one in their bathroom. Very fun!
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Post# 9989-11/30/2001-07:53 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Live Modern for Less with Gas
MESSAGE: Oh the horror and shame. That sacred spot, graced for so many years by a TOL Hotpoint range, now desecrated by that gas thing. I'll tell you somethig else, It cost a lot of money to cool those pavillions with gas. Those who have never experienced gas airconditioning don't know how inefficient it is. Friends had it and it had an input of over 4 times the output so they had large gas bills, plus their electric bills were higher than mine (with electric AC) because of all the pumping for the water/antifreeze solution system and the fact that the system had to run almost continuously. One time when they went away all the anitfreeze solution leaked out and the 140K BTU gas burner ran wide open for a couple of weeks and the gas bills were terrific. You could not shut it down while you were away because it took days to cool the house back down when you returned. Then there was the time it started killing a tree that had branches way above it and she asked me what could be happening and I told her she had an ammonia leak and soon would have no cooling. They finally switched to an electric central system and were amazed at how much less expensive it was to run.
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Post# 9990-11/30/2001-07:56 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Suzy Homemaker Christmas Past (Twin tub rinsing)
MESSAGE: Scott, your second option is the better way.
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Post# 9991-11/30/2001-08:00 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Animated X-mas Gadgets (Icicles!!!)
MESSAGE: Mike, not that I know of. They have the big ugly tree behind the White House that is more an advertisement for General Electric who supplies the lights than a tasteful outdoor tree. The prettier tree is the one on the West Capitol lawn. Wonder if that one will be done away with due to terrorism fears.
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Post# 9992-11/30/2001-08:06 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Flair Range on ebay (old Frigidaire colors)
MESSAGE: I am not certain those colors would match either, Robert. The green was pretty yellow and the yellow was pretty green in the ones that I have seen. I think your yellow is a purer yellow than the first shade, but might be wrong. Maybe your DW just looks better because it is smaller, but somehow I think the yellow got changed when they started offering pink as a color.
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Post# 9993-11/30/2001-08:11 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Flair Range on ebay
MESSAGE: This man is still Gay and knows nothing about color and style??? Good heavens, where has he been since the color black became the rage for kitchen appliances? Black and stainless are very hot. My guess is he's not.
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Post# 9994-11/30/2001-08:16 ||| tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
SUBJECT: RE: Animated X-mas Gadgets (bubble lights)
MESSAGE: Yes, but bubble lights no longer come in the beautiful colors that they used to, like a base that was soft blue on the bottom, yellow on top with blue fluid. There used to be a whole rainbow of color combinations, like soft orange and green with green fluid. Of course, they got really gross with bubble lights shaped like rockets and stuff since public taste knows no bottom limit, but there were beautiful bubble lights in many colors once. My sister gave me a couple of the night lights too.
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Post# 9995-11/30/2001-08:52 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Flair Range on ebay
MESSAGE: Outdated! That man should be SLAPPED.
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Post# 9996-11/30/2001-08:54 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Live Modern for Less with Gas
MESSAGE: Interesting story Tom, I can't image using gas for anything but heating the house and the hot water, and an occasional drying of clothes.
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Post# 9997-11/30/2001-08:55 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Flair Range on ebay (old Frigidaire colors)
MESSAGE: Interesting, did you guys recently find a '55 Frigiaire Range in Stradford Yellow?
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Post# 9998-11/30/2001-09:24 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Suzy Homemaker Christmas Past (Twin-Tub Washing)
MESSAGE: Hey Mikey! I'm not sure what was up with the Dexter twin tub, it has two washtubs and a wringer. I'm not sure if they thought one for rinsing, or two wash chambers for a large family, or what. Maybe someone else will know!
I got your letters last night; I have to work today (leaving soon) I'll write you later when I get to work and call early next week!
Scott
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Post# 9999-11/30/2001-09:26 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Flair Range on ebay
MESSAGE: That boy needs serious help if he thinks the holy grail of 58 ranges is not beautiful just as is!! :)