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Post# 191078   2/14/2007 at 18:54 (6,252 days old) by westyslantfront ()   |   | |
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With the new center dial washer being produced by Whirlpool with the Maytag label on, do we call it a "Whirltag" or a "Maypool"? |
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Post# 191082 , Reply# 1   2/14/2007 at 19:29 (6,252 days old) by maytagbear (N.E. Ohio)   |   | |
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Ross! To me, it is, and forever will be a Whirltag. Lawrence/Maytagbear |
Post# 191088 , Reply# 2   2/14/2007 at 21:17 (6,252 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 191111 , Reply# 3   2/14/2007 at 22:15 (6,252 days old) by ~sudsshane ()   |   | |
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whirltag |
Post# 191118 , Reply# 4   2/14/2007 at 22:31 (6,252 days old) by zipdang (Portland, OR)   |   | |
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Post# 191120 , Reply# 5   2/14/2007 at 22:37 (6,252 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 191154 , Reply# 6   2/15/2007 at 01:17 (6,252 days old) by agiflow ()   |   | |
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If Maytag could have done better...they might still be in business. |
Post# 191159 , Reply# 7   2/15/2007 at 01:49 (6,252 days old) by brettsomers ()   |   | |
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too bad Maytag couldnt be in bed with Sears and turn out pedestrian, cheap product like other manufacturers (ducks and runs)... |
Post# 191168 , Reply# 8   2/15/2007 at 05:49 (6,252 days old) by irishwashguy (Salem,Oregon.............A Capital City)   |   | |
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Whirltag and sadly a relief to ole' lonely. They may be better than the crap that they were turing out from before. I saw a Real and Up close Whirlpool at Costco yesterday,exactly like the Whirltag inside, down to to agitator and bleach dispenser.Sad but true. I guess that when my Mom buys her Bosch, i better collect the old Maytag set from the clutches of my little brother who wants them. PS----this is not my Mother's Maytag, the old 407 or the 412. PPS--Does anyone know where they are building the new machines? Are they coming from South of the Happiest place in the world, Tijajuana? |
Post# 191170 , Reply# 9   2/15/2007 at 06:04 (6,252 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)   |   | |
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Post# 191186 , Reply# 10   2/15/2007 at 07:59 (6,252 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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Wish we were all wealthy enough to buy back Maytag. We could concentrate on building just a small range of high quality, well-made machines. No dishwashers or Amannananatags or any of the other nonsense. Just washers and dryers. Wouldn't that be fun? The best of each era, with the dial back in the center where it belongs and pushbuttons on each side. |
Post# 191191 , Reply# 11   2/15/2007 at 08:31 (6,252 days old) by partscounterman (Cortez, Colorado)   |   | |
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What happened to "Shredtag"? |
Post# 191208 , Reply# 12   2/15/2007 at 09:25 (6,252 days old) by agiflow ()   |   | |
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...or maybe Maypoolmore. |
Post# 191427 , Reply# 13   2/16/2007 at 00:02 (6,251 days old) by exploder3211 ()   |   | |
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I like Shredtag, i wonderd why my cloths always got holes in them (esp. my t-shits).. If not Maypoo (no l) or Whirltag it is |
Post# 191468 , Reply# 14   2/16/2007 at 06:44 (6,251 days old) by westyslantfront ()   |   | |
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I was at Homo Depot yesterday and saw a center dial Whirltag (or Maypool). It was strange to see the Maytag label on the control panel but as soon as you opened the lid, you knew it was a Whirlpool. Ross |
Post# 191475 , Reply# 15   2/16/2007 at 07:40 (6,251 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)   |   | |
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Post# 191609 , Reply# 16   2/16/2007 at 16:51 (6,250 days old) by geextrarinse (Hudson Valley, New York )   |   | |
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i too was at the homodepot yesterday and saw the new whirltag with the center dial - they all must have reccently got the new shipment. I kinda like that they put the dial back in the middle! its the only difference between them and the whirlpools - i like the overall design actually. its nice and better than maytag has made in years - the crappy Amana my aunt had was 3 years old and they said to junk it! At least Whirlpool has a better reputation and the name is being preserved with some sort of quality behind it... |
Post# 191610 , Reply# 17   2/16/2007 at 16:53 (6,250 days old) by geextrarinse (Hudson Valley, New York )   |   | |
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Post# 191942 , Reply# 18   2/17/2007 at 19:48 (6,249 days old) by westyslantfront ()   |   | |
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I was at Christie's Appliance store here in Tucson today. I also saw a center dial WHIRLPOOL, just like the whirltag. Tub and agitator the same, everything the same except the name label on the control panel. Ross |
Post# 192871 , Reply# 19   2/22/2007 at 14:42 (6,244 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Went to Blowe's today...Saw the new and improved 'center-dial' Maypools. What a joke. Whirlpool lid, whirlpool inside, Whirlpool agitator....Yada, Yada, Yada. Even stated on the control panel a step-down wash pattern in the cycle. And the dryer.....Whirlpool top-mounted lint screen. It was so sad to see the Maytag name on that product. |
Post# 192878 , Reply# 20   2/22/2007 at 15:08 (6,244 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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You have to wonder. People who bought "real" Maytags usually knew a bit about quality. Whirlpool might get them to buy once...but when the machines fail quickly, those customers will be angry. And they sure won't go back to Whirlpool. Their customers deserve better. Either make them top-of-the-line good machines or just kill the brand off. Either way. Just don't label and Whirlmore "Maytag". Gross-out. |
Post# 193048 , Reply# 22   2/23/2007 at 08:44 (6,244 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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Actually, complaining does, occasionally help. One of the advertisers in the NY-Times had pop-ups which drove me to distraction. Complained, they actually took my complaint seriously, the advertiser changed them. I don't know the ratio of success to failure...but you definitely have no chance at all if you just do nothing. Dell has now improved their customer service (ok, that is still not saying much...a 1000% improvement would just barely bring them up to god-awful bad). But they would never have if consumers had not told them: I bought my new computer from someone else because of your bad service. |
Post# 193101 , Reply# 24   2/23/2007 at 13:35 (6,243 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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Don't sweat it. Except for a few (not all, most are great people) folks in the UK who delight in attacking and flaming, everyone here is pretty accepting of passion and opinions. I mean, let's face it: We are all passionate about our machines and our views. I love real Frigidaires and deny the existence of any TL by that name after White bought them. They are like push up briefs...false advertising. And we all know how much I love Whirlpool. Not. I devoured repair manuals on Maytags 30 years ago. Today I think they should have buried the company with a stake through their manager's hearts. They screwed the workers, shareholders and customers something awful...and there I go again. Get well soon! |
Post# 193118 , Reply# 25   2/23/2007 at 15:38 (6,243 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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There sure is a lot of misdirected anger flying around here! If Maytag will never be again what it once was, that's not Whirlpool's fault. It's MAYTAG's fault. Whirlpool has a strong history of reliability (a few glitches along the way notwithstanding -- the same can be said about Frigidaire, GE, pretty much all the manufacturers). Whirlpool is good enough to have been associated with Sears/Kenmore virtually f-o-r-e-v-e-r. One cannot realistically expect Whirlpool to revive/maintain the classic Maytag design, when Maytag couldn't do it themselves. I'm sure there are internal logistic and business concerns and issues that contra such an effort. Traditional toploader design probably has its days numbered anyway by the environmental watchdogs, so Whirlpool would be shooting itself in the foot to buy Maytag and maintain or gear-up separate manufacturing facilities, parts inventory, etc. for multiple mechanical designs. Like it or not, cost/finances/economics are the bottom line for ANY company. |
Post# 193123 , Reply# 26   2/23/2007 at 16:09 (6,243 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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I do know a bit about the bottom line. I work in an extremely competitive sector; my customers can always get good work for less money elsewhere. So I keep them by providing reliable, high-quality work and outstanding customer service. I am convinced of the maxim: Acquisition is 100 times harder than maintenance. I add new customers, but know that repeat business and word-of-mouth is what will keep the money flowing over the long term. After Whirlpool did the dirty on Bauknecht, their profits and market share fell. The bottom line is, too many managers (not only in the US) treat the shareholders, workers and consumers like sh** and enrich themselves by destroying the company. The only way to enhance short-term profits in a captital intensive industry is by artificially enhancing the share price. Since the manager's remuneration is tied to this (and since their contracts protect them from their mistakes) they gut the company and pocket the profit. This is not misdirected anger, I am a capitalist. If you want the Chinese to do to the white goods what the Japanese did to the car industry, then keep trotting out the old, weary lines. Meanwhile the competitors are positioning themselves to offer the consumers higher quality and (in the beginning) lower prices. |
Post# 193613 , Reply# 28   2/25/2007 at 21:19 (6,241 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Has gone to a 360 degree stroke... Just click on the 'Hydro-wave' wash system CLICK HERE TO GO TO gadgetgary's LINK |
Post# 193786 , Reply# 29   2/26/2007 at 18:40 (6,240 days old) by andrewinorlando ()   |   | |
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Gary - They came out a few months ago, and they are very, very quiet. No high speed spin yet, though. Only 640 RPM at this point. But they are quite inexpensive, and seem to be well built. |
Post# 194085 , Reply# 30   2/28/2007 at 01:54 (6,239 days old) by mavei511 ()   |   | |
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...Just like when Studebaker bought Packard? For the last two years of its life,rebadged Studebakers were sold as Packards after Studebaker shut down the Packard plant. |
Post# 194395 , Reply# 32   3/1/2007 at 21:30 (6,237 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)   |   | |
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Post# 194415 , Reply# 33   3/2/2007 at 03:04 (6,237 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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Post# 194451 , Reply# 34   3/2/2007 at 09:17 (6,237 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 194454 , Reply# 35   3/2/2007 at 09:24 (6,237 days old) by exploder3211 ()   |   | |
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That one looks alright.. I could live with that |
Post# 194459 , Reply# 36   3/2/2007 at 09:45 (6,236 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 194460 , Reply# 37   3/2/2007 at 10:06 (6,236 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 194461 , Reply# 38   3/2/2007 at 10:12 (6,236 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 194475 , Reply# 39   3/2/2007 at 11:58 (6,236 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)   |   | |
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Post# 194476 , Reply# 40   3/2/2007 at 12:09 (6,236 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 194479 , Reply# 41   3/2/2007 at 12:17 (6,236 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)   |   | |
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There is one possible problem with making new Whirlmananorgepooltags look so much like the beloved centre-dial Maytags of old. People associate that look with genuine quality, and if they're disappointed, it can generate real resentment. I know someone with a new Mustang, purchased specifically because it so strongly reminded its purchaser of his beloved 1970 model. He has had nothing but problem after problem, and I think he's madder than he would be otherwise, since the disappointing new car is styled to look so much like the good old reliable ones he remembers. I really think the way for Whirly to go with Maytag is as a premium line, with extra design and build quality. |
Post# 194488 , Reply# 42   3/2/2007 at 12:46 (6,236 days old) by runematic (southcentral pa)   |   | |
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Post# 194504 , Reply# 43   3/2/2007 at 14:18 (6,236 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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You are absolutely correct. I am a big fan of the "real" DUAL Hi-Fi products. About 10 years ago, I made the mistake of buying a very well styled radio/cd player. One of the biggest pieces of junk I have ever seen. My mistake, I should have checked - but that was precisely what the manufacturer wanted...it looked and felt on the outside like DUAL, but inside it was just trash. The brand name had been sold to some cheap outfit in the far east. Upshot? I never, ever buy DUAL or AEG or any of the other household stuff on the market now-a-days. Once burned, twice shy. Whirlpool's marketing idiots are obviously drinking their own joy-juice, no other way to explain this. Put Maytag away for a few years. Let some grass grow over their grave. Then resurrect them as a genuinely high-quality, premium priced brand. The US market was protected for far too long. The only thing keeping consumers "true" to their domestic brands is the lack of experience with the good foreign brands (and stupidity like LGs customer service). As soon as the consumers realize that the US brands no longer are better - just more expensive - that will be all she wrote. Was that way with consumer electronics. Is that way with cars. But it just does not seem to be a lesson worth the learning in the domestic industry. |
Post# 194528 , Reply# 44   3/2/2007 at 15:46 (6,236 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 194703 , Reply# 45   3/3/2007 at 19:16 (6,235 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 194712 , Reply# 46   3/3/2007 at 19:32 (6,235 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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I know the quality of the machines is probably better with the Whirlpool innards, but it's no more a Maytag than my new Frigidaire TL is really a Frigidaire. I'll never forget making my first washer purchase in 1984. I was finally replacing the Kenmore Model 80 my parents had since I was an infant. And damn it, I was FINALLY, going to get myself a Frigidaire washer! Much to my dismay, I opened what looked like a Frigidaire washer and my heart sank. Wound up buying a Whirlpool with a winged Surgilator instead. |
Post# 196056 , Reply# 47   3/9/2007 at 03:49 (6,230 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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The new Whirltags or Maypools are now on the Maytag website. TOL is a three speed model.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO foraloysius's LINK |
Post# 196082 , Reply# 48   3/9/2007 at 07:37 (6,230 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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Post# 196090 , Reply# 49   3/9/2007 at 08:17 (6,230 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 196106 , Reply# 50   3/9/2007 at 09:31 (6,230 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)   |   | |
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Post# 196140 , Reply# 51   3/9/2007 at 13:25 (6,229 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 196153 , Reply# 52   3/9/2007 at 13:46 (6,229 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)   |   | |
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Post# 196173 , Reply# 53   3/9/2007 at 14:56 (6,229 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Haven't Maytag dryer doors always been side-swing? I suppose Whirlpool is following the pattern. There's the Neppy (and Atlantis?) door design, but the Performa is very similiar, and so are some others. newkunst.com/images/products/pid7... www.ksl.com/emedia/slc/29/2932/29... www.cooking.com.edgesuite.net/ima... www.buysellcommunity.com/uploads/... img.ziply.com/img/us/image/640m-4... |
Post# 196180 , Reply# 54   3/9/2007 at 15:19 (6,229 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)   |   | |
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DADoES: Maytag always used a side-swing door, also true for many Whirlys, so that part looks fine to me. It would be a nice touch, though, if Whirlpool would put the Maytag chrome knob on Maytag models. Probably won't happen- the die that stamps Whirly dryer doors is probably set up to punch out the opening for the Whirly handle all at one go. Putting the Maytag knob on the door would require a whole new die and a separate production run to make doors for Maytag-branded units, which is ex-freakin'-SPENSIVE. |
Post# 196182 , Reply# 55   3/9/2007 at 15:20 (6,229 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Yes, side swing is good. But IMHO the door is positioned too low in the cabinet. Somehow that looks like a cheap design to me. The newer Whirlpools have the door slightly higher in the cabinet, which would look more like a genuine Maytag design. This Whirlpool has a slightly different door, but looks much better I think. |
Post# 196193 , Reply# 56   3/9/2007 at 15:55 (6,229 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)   |   | |
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Post# 196200 , Reply# 57   3/9/2007 at 16:16 (6,229 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)   |   | |
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Post# 197674 , Reply# 58   3/15/2007 at 19:12 (6,223 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA)   |   | |
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Saw the new "Maytag" at Sears and I think the Whirlpool and Kenmores are better. The stainless steel tub of the new Maytag has a nasty seam at the side and the holes seemed kinda sharp. There was an Atlantis (norgetag) there and the stainless steel was smoother. The Kenmore had a much smoother porcelain tub and I liked the control panel of the Whirlpool better. They better do something about the tub if they hope to sell any, I find it a real turn off.
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Post# 197692 , Reply# 59   3/15/2007 at 21:12 (6,223 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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I just saw the new models at PC Richards today. Actually I do like the way the control panel was setup with the center dial. But sadly when opening it their was a shreadmore! (SUX) But if you wish on a Star like I did maybe in another place and another time out of this world it may have the same nice styling with a pulsator going up / down inside and of cource with a big viewing window. (Keep Wishing) Peter |