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Post# 192725   2/21/2007 at 19:56 (6,270 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        

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IMHO, this is the beginning of the end. I'll never forget walking into Malley's department store in New Haven on a sad day of 1979 and the shock of seeing a classic design swept away and in its place the new-fangled. Gone was the center dial, and in its place an ordinary RH dial on a panel face of phony wood grain. Gone were the elegantly small and carefully placed buttons and in their place dumb squares of wordless plastic vertically oriented in pointless rows. In some models, gone even was the complimentary fabric softener dispenser, replaced, almost spitefully because they had to manufacture it specially for this line, a retro lint filter column with no depression, just a blank stare. Gone was even the beautifully pristine and brilliant white porcelain tub on the TOL models--it's as though they were rationing the white paint. The finish was greyed and closer to the tone of the BOL blue. At least Jesse was still alive and kicking as were the garbage disposers and the porta-pair(but not for long). Enjoy the images, for they live on only in books...




Post# 192726 , Reply# 1   2/21/2007 at 19:57 (6,270 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        

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Post# 192741 , Reply# 12   2/21/2007 at 20:50 (6,270 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        

Oh, all was not lost. Yes, change had come to the Maytag lineup, but those are pretty tough machines.
Steve (Mayken4now) in Pensacola, has a beautiful Harvest Gold TOL set just like those pictured and they still soldier on.

I have been using an A612 that has certainly seen some heavy duty, and it, also, just keeps humming along.

The only gripe I had with Maytag when they made those changes is the lack of a lighted console/interior on the TOL's and the lint-filter in the washer should have been disposed of.(That damned lint-filter should have been dropped with the introduction of the extra-capacity tub!).

However, IMO, the 806's were the best of the best when it came to a set of Maytags.


Post# 192743 , Reply# 13   2/21/2007 at 21:08 (6,270 days old) by brettsomers ()        

these really were the SAME machines as the center-dials, werent they. i agree the panels were a bit on the plain side. was a little before my time. i wish i had some pics of other makes panels side by side to compare (of same era). suspect most folks who seeked out Maytag did so for practical quality reasons, not flash or glitz. brown color schemes WERE big back then, as was fake woodgrain.

Post# 192744 , Reply# 14   2/21/2007 at 21:09 (6,270 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        

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I agree with you about the 806's. But the 806's with the timed bleach dispenser, not the newer dumbed-down ones. I'm curious, why are you so critical of the lint filter? It always worked well for me although couldn't match a GE filter-flo.

Post# 192751 , Reply# 15   2/21/2007 at 21:54 (6,270 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
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I actually liked these newer models better than the center dial models. I agree with Steve that they should have kept a console light. But these newer models were styled nicer in my openion and they increased the standard wash time back to 12 minutes which in my openion is better than a 10 minute wash that the center dial offered. My mother got the TOL model Maytag in 1981 and it lasted 14 years and she still could have got more life out of it. I liked the machine very much.
Peter


Post# 192753 , Reply# 16   2/21/2007 at 22:06 (6,270 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        
im sure by 1975

We had center dial kenmores, the folks had one, maybe that influenced Tag to go to the right?

Post# 192760 , Reply# 17   2/21/2007 at 22:31 (6,270 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
What I Find Interesting...

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...Is how straightforward the quality statements are in these pages:

"Maytag Washers are built to last longer and need fewer repairs than any other brand."

"Dependability Is Built Right In."

"Long life with few repairs is what we try to build in to every Maytag."

Boy, you sure don't see statements like those in advertising any more! Anybody's advertising.


Post# 192801 , Reply# 18   2/22/2007 at 02:49 (6,270 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
Truth in Advertising...

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Today, they would have to write:
"Maytag Washers are thrown together with leftover designs which work ok".
"Dependability is boring. Life is a surprise! Let our washers surprise you. Often."
"Long life with few repairs is what we took out of Maytag."
And last, but not least:
"We figured out how to make every Maytag like a Neptune."
What blows my mind is the difference in quality between products made by US firms for sale in the US and products made by US firms for sale (usually at lower prices) in Europe. The quality is so much better over here. Even the Bauknecht brand (so not my favorite) washers are much better than the Whirlpool sh** dumped on us regularly.
Oh, gosh, did I say "dumped?"
Maytag's management destroyed jobs and a very good company. What a pity there is no punishment in a capitalistic society for such people. Oh, wait, there is. They have to take their millions and leave.
Silly me.


Post# 192806 , Reply# 19   2/22/2007 at 04:54 (6,270 days old) by re563 (Fort Worth, Texas)        

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My Mom has the A510 of this line up and coming up on it's 26th birthday it's still running as strong as the day she bought it. Her's also has the sudssaver feature on it. These machines were the same as the center dial ones. Honest, durable, dependable and practical. The dishwashers are what i miss the most. They cleaned extreamly well, held alot. What a shame it's all gone and now whirlpool.

Post# 192816 , Reply# 20   2/22/2007 at 07:10 (6,270 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        
Lint-filters----FEH!

My issue with lint filters is that when it comes right down to it they all do a poor job and are disgusting to clean up. Some of them are just stupid-----the old Whirly "brush" type was in my opinion the worst. You had to use a comb or fork to pick the nasties out of it. Just that process would fling nasty water off of the bristles on all that surrounded it as you worked---usually over a trash can.

Next to worst was the 1-18 with that damn "bed 'o nails" filter. Don't let that lint dry out or you might never get it all out of there.

The easiest are the filters mounted on agitators that use a recirculating type system. You just gather up the clump of grossness and toss it. The old GE "Filter-Flo" was pretty easy and was ALWAYS loaded with lint no matter what you washed. A great sales tool when selling the old Maytags was to point out all the fabric damage that the "Filter-Flo's" left in their filter-pans after each load!

IMO The dryer is where the lint is best collected anyway, and the lint filters inside a washer are nothing more than a sales gimmick. I never heard anyone (even those who used a clothes-line) complaining about lint after washing in their (solid-tub) Frigidaires or Speed Queens, etc.

In regards to the Neptune F/L.
Back in the mid-to late '90's I worked as the "house decorator" for a branch of a large chain of furniture/appliance stores here in an Atlanta suburb. Maytags were the best appliances we had to offer and we had many other brands. I used to be so good at selling Maytags, I usually sold them sight unseen while in my office writing up a sale on a group of furniture,etc. (The sales staff over in the appliance department hated me for it.)During this period the Neptune F/L's were introduced.

I sold three sets of them right off the bat to close friends who were shopping for new laundry equipment. All three of those people eventually got the washer door gasket modification----provided free by Maytag (when their service department still gave a s@#t.)

All three of these people loved their Neptunes then, and all three still love them and would be loath to part with them. I just spent a few days visiting with one of those families and that pair really gets a work out-----they have never had a problem and would not part with those machines for anything!

So "go figya". Obviously their were enough changes over the years of Neptune production to seriously degrade their quality level.( I believe the down-hill slide for the T/L's began with the introduction of the "orbital's".)
I am glad I was no longer in sales when all those changes began---it would have crippled my sales ability and would have been even more depressing that it already was just to observe from the outside.

What those irresponsible executives did to Maytag should be recorded as criminal behaviour. Shame on them.
Oh well, they are in a long line in this country--------------
.


Post# 192831 , Reply# 21   2/22/2007 at 10:10 (6,270 days old) by hoover1060 ()        
dishwasher...

that built in all pushbutton dishwasher looks identical to the one my mom had from 1982-2004

Post# 192834 , Reply# 22   2/22/2007 at 10:19 (6,270 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        

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I have two of that generation of Jetclean dishwashers. One is my daily driver and the other I'm sprucing up for use as a second machine. So far, of all the dishwashers I've ever seen/used these are the best. I always liked the smart and innovative "plates on top-glassware on the bottom" design. I rate them slightly higher even than the KitchenAid KD-17 series (which I love) only because they hold much more. Also, I can wash almost any large pot or utensil in the Maytag. On the KitchenAids, the racking wasn't so accommodating. Couldn't beat the KitchenAids for elegance, reliability and design, though.

Post# 193321 , Reply# 23   2/24/2007 at 18:48 (6,268 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)        
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My parents still have an LA511 from 1982 still chugging away. It seriously is a member of the family, since it's been the ONLY washer our family has ever known. Sadly the matching dryer died about 4 years ago. We replaced it with a 2003 Neptune dryer. That dryer is wonderful and we love it more than the original dryer.

However, the washer motor sounds like its getting louder and louder when I go home. I'm worried that the motor is starting to die.
Are these motors still abundant if a repair is needed???


Post# 193322 , Reply# 24   2/24/2007 at 18:50 (6,268 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)        
BTW

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our 511 is a "Fabric Matic"
what the hell does that mean? it's just the basic large washer. what's fabric matic?


Post# 193324 , Reply# 25   2/24/2007 at 19:02 (6,268 days old) by coldspot66 (Plymouth, Mass)        

Fabric-Matic denotes a one speed machine. Normal speed only; no slower speed for delicates.

Post# 193331 , Reply# 26   2/24/2007 at 19:42 (6,267 days old) by gefliterflo ()        

These were and still ARE my favorite version of Maytag washers. If I found one I would replace my Atlantis with this in a heart beat.

Post# 193336 , Reply# 27   2/24/2007 at 20:20 (6,267 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        

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Instead of a slower speed, the "Fabricmatics" used shorter wash times and pauses between periods of agitation. Wasn't a bad idea when you think about it. My LG front loader does much the same thing when you select a delicates cycle. Having grown up with GE's though, I loved the fact that one could change speeds by a touch of a button anytime with the Maytag 2-speed machines without damaging the mechanism. Our 2-speed GE became a 1-speed very early in its life. So early, in fact, that I forgot that all 2-speed GE's begin activation in every cycle on low speed and then ramp up to normal.


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