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Thread Number: 11006
Hotpoint 18580 working again + Pics |
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| Post# 199297 3/24/2007 at 10:27 (6,235 days old) by robm (Buxted) | ||
Hello all As you may or may not be aware I bought Nick's wonderful Hotpoint Super Electronic De Luxe 18580, 1000rpm circa 1979. He has some great vids on youtube of it working. Unfortunately the motor had stopped working and I discovered it was the armature. Well, after weeks of being out of action she is back on her feet again. The new armature arrived today and I have been busy getting the Hottie set up again. It now makes all the right sounds and grrrr's like an old traditional Hotpoint should! Below is a pic of the brushes and the new and old armatures. You can see the difference for yourselves. Rob 
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| Post# 199298 , Reply# 1 3/24/2007 at 10:31 (6,235 days old) by robm (Buxted) | ||
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Here is a pic of the fascia. I tested a load on Programme 2 (60 cottons) on my cats' bedding. I only have cold water in my wash house so had to start the washing on Programme 5 (40 cottons) and then start again on 2, which only fill from hot water. It did actually give a nice long wash as the water took some time to heat up. I also set the full max spin. Wow seeing that brought back some memories! 
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| Post# 199301 , Reply# 2 3/24/2007 at 10:36 (6,235 days old) by robm (Buxted) | ||
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Here is the machine washing. I used Persil Bio. The door is plastic (as opposed to glass) and has discoloured slightly, hence why the suds look slightly yellow. This machine gives a good old fashioned wash, no faffing at all. There are 4 rinses each with a short fast spin. My only gripe is that the intermediate spins could be longer and the pumping at the end of the spin could have gone on for longer as draining hadn't quite finished before filling of the next rinse commenced. 
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| Post# 199302 , Reply# 3 3/24/2007 at 10:39 (6,235 days old) by robm (Buxted) | ||
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| Post# 199303 , Reply# 4 3/24/2007 at 10:43 (6,235 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom) | ||
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| Post# 199334 , Reply# 7 3/24/2007 at 14:42 (6,235 days old) by robm (Buxted) | ||
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Hi Nick and Darren, thanks for your comments, I'm chuffed it's working again. Or course had not been the armature I would have been at a loss. Nick - Not sure what was wrong but I wondered if there was a short in the old armature. Hopefully things will stay OK. I won't use the machine often, mostly for cat bedding or dusters that I don't want in my clothes washing machines. Running the machine today I realised how noisy it was washing but was surprised that it wasn't too loud spinning. Not that I'm complaining about either. I did notice it is a little noisier on reverse tumble. Rob | ||
| Post# 199544 , Reply# 11 3/26/2007 at 03:26 (6,233 days old) by robm (Buxted) | ||
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Hi all, thanks for your comments and for Mark's Pics. Re the y piece. Thanks for that Nick but I'm just going to stick with the cold inlet. I will only use the machine when I am watching it so will just fill it up on prog 5. I'm so pleased I got it working again. It's a real work horse and brings back so many memories of the way washers used to be. Rob | ||
Post# 199572 , Reply# 13 3/26/2007 at 11:53 (6,233 days old) by ricky5050  (Durham Britain) |
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Just a thought!
Hi Rob glad to see your machine up and running, but i have had a thought , and please please do not think i am trying to teach my grandmother to suck eggs in regards to you or Nick the previous owner , but something you said about it not finishing draining before next rinse made me think, My Mam has the 1989 9544 hotpoint and a lot of the inards are very similar, when i replaced the last set of carbon bushes , a notice on the packet said i should check the pump filter and draining system as a slow emptying machine may go in to spin when still 1/2 full of water , causing too much strain on the motor resulting in burn out of the bushes or armature!! , Have you dismantled the filter , there is one on this machine i think , just under the sump from the wash tub, it is probably easier to remove sump hose from tub and pump and work on it on a work bench as the filter should drop out of the sump hose but can stick if not moved for a long time, you should see a small oblong box with holes in, it normally self clears but i know fluff can clog it , it did with a set of pink fluffy bath mats on my mams, ( the mats were hers too i have to say!), i bet you find a coin or two too, i would also feel around the sump outlet from the drum as socks can get trapped around the heater between inner and outer drums , and i seem to remember this machine having a larger than normal tub to drum edge gap. Also check in the pump or run a small marble down the outlet hose as buttons can get stuck and act like open or shut valves. As i say you may know all of this and more but i thought it would be worth a punt! Let me know Richard 
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| Post# 199903 , Reply# 15 3/28/2007 at 08:12 (6,231 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK) | ||
Another 18 series Hottie.....
Hey Guys A customer came in today wanting to replace her 18371 from 1981 :) According to Merloni Partfinder its a facelift of the 18580!. If I have my way it wont be going to landfill ;) Seamus. Ps She has get her worktop altered before a new machine will fit- as a lot of people will be aware the 1800 series are 82cm high rather than the standard 85cm. | ||
| Post# 199909 , Reply# 16 3/28/2007 at 09:04 (6,231 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK) | ||
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A problem :( | ||
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Post# 199921 , Reply# 18 3/28/2007 at 11:06 (6,231 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Hotpoint Colours
Hi Rob Glad to hear you got the motor sorted, this machine will keep purring along with simple fixes etc...Does the final spin whoosh up to the max in one go or does it do it in stages?? Seamus, grab that machines asap, I always wondered what the above machines would have been like with a solid backplate, would they have been quieter and more stable, The lady I just got the quartz off put me in touch with a local repairman who shes knows, turns out he was an ex Servis engineer and covered the north west, and remembers my mums machines being on contract...I asked him to keep an eye open for 60`s / 70`s machines, Brown Servis/ Purple Hotpoints etc.., he said sorry to tell you but a customer of his had ditched a matching pair because the outer tub had rusted through, he had looked after them for years and she "Wanted New"...I`m fed up of hearing stuff like that lately...best of luck Happy hunting, Mike 
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| Post# 200355 , Reply# 20 3/30/2007 at 09:27 (6,229 days old) by robm (Buxted) | ||
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Hi Mike Thanks for your comments and hope you are well. You were asking if the Hotpoint pulses or not. Well this machine goes straight up to top speed. It doesn't quite reach top speed on the interims because the force of the water holds it back (why I think lower spins to start with are better). I'd imagine that it spins on the interims for about 5 seconds only. Rob | ||
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