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Please help me kill our Frigidaire TL!!!
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Post# 201957   4/7/2007 at 16:06 (6,227 days old) by liamwa ()        

Hi everyone,

We have one of those newer "Frigidaire" top loaders with a straight vane agitator and the indexing tub. I've hated this machine ever since we got it in 1999. It just swirls the clothes around in the water, no rollover to speak of. I keep hoping it will die, but it just keeps on going! Please someone out there tell me how I can kill it and make it look like an accident.

Many thanks
Liam


PS

Any one else here have any stories of appliances you've disliked and "helped" along to an early grave?

hehe






Post# 201967 , Reply# 1   4/7/2007 at 16:28 (6,227 days old) by westytoploader ()        

Throw it away and get another machine?

Post# 201973 , Reply# 2   4/7/2007 at 16:42 (6,227 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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LOL I just posted that in the other thread Austin.

Post# 201983 , Reply# 3   4/7/2007 at 17:29 (6,227 days old) by decodriveboy (FL, US)        
Why not just sell it?

No need to sabotage an appliance that works. Someone else may love and cherish that Frigidaire.

Sorry, but I do tend to think of appliances as living things!


Post# 202001 , Reply# 4   4/7/2007 at 18:08 (6,227 days old) by liamwa ()        
Maybe I'm being a little harsh?

If I could sell it or donate it I would. However the other members of my family are perfectly happy with it, and don't feel we need a new washing machine. One thing I should mention is that I washed a work shirt with a stain on the cuff three different times in the "Frigidaire" machine, and the stain was still there. It went through the old belt drive kenmore at our holiday home once and the stain was gone. That's how I know this machine has lousy wash action.

Liam


Post# 202009 , Reply# 5   4/7/2007 at 18:30 (6,227 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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I have a new Frigidaire TL washer and I understand your frustration with rollover. I've found the water-to-clothing ratio has to be just right to get good cleaning results. Too much water and the clothes just whirl in a circle; too little water and they have no way to rollover.

Also, try to wash no larger than medium-sized loads. I find a full load is too much for the wimpy agitation to handle. I get much better cleaning with small-to-medium sized loads.

Does yours only fill to the third row of holes down from the top when set at the highest water level? I find that limits my load size to what the agitator can handle. Don't ever load clothes higher than the third row of holes down from the top. Unfortunately, the user's manual still tells you to load to the top row of holes, which gives disastrous washing results and absolutely no turnover whatsoever.

When I want to wash a very large load of clothes, I jerry-rig mine to fill to the very top of the tub by using a rubber band and a picture-hanging hook on the infinite water level control knob. This trick won't work with a water control that doesn't have a reset position. In those cases, you can manually hold the knob between settings and it will fill with extra water. Unfortunately, this also means you have to return to the washer for the rinse fill.

Having said all that, my daily driver is a Frigidaire front-loader and it's a much, much better machine than the TL'er. I bought the TL'er about 7 months ago specifically for the 1950's engineering of the Franklin transmission---which utilizes an unequal agitator stroke and the indexing tub.

I would never want the thing as my only washer, though! The bad news: They are hard to kill. Friends of mine have a 1990 Frigidaire (with the same transmission but a smaller tub) and its only repair has been a belt replacement.


Post# 202035 , Reply# 6   4/7/2007 at 19:17 (6,227 days old) by liamwa ()        

My washer does seem to fill all the way to the top and I don't over load it. The washing results are still quite poor however. My machine has a straight vane agitator but I have seen some with the dual action auger type. What type does yours have, and does it make any difference?

Thanks
Liam


Post# 202036 , Reply# 7   4/7/2007 at 19:19 (6,227 days old) by laundryshark (Cedar Rapids, Iowa)        
Where there is a Will, there's a Way?...

Is there a way in which the indexing problem could be corrected so as to allow for a normal stroking agitator without a moving tub during a wash?--Laundry Shark

Post# 202037 , Reply# 8   4/7/2007 at 19:26 (6,227 days old) by liamwa ()        
Laundry Shark

The only way I can see is to stand there and grab the tub with both arms. A bit of a strain but you get better turnover LOL.

Post# 202050 , Reply# 9   4/7/2007 at 19:58 (6,227 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

For some reason, I think that Lianwa is a kid and the Fridgidaire belongs to his parents. I just have this suspicion. I may be wrong. There's just something about the way the original message in this thread was written. But I am going out on a limb with this one.

Liamwa:
Now that's not a nice thing to do! Have you discussed the poor rollover with your parents? What do they say? Maybe they need a little educating about how washes work. This could be a nice project for you!


Post# 202101 , Reply# 10   4/7/2007 at 21:56 (6,227 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Liam-- My 2006 Frigidaire washer has a dual-action agitator, but the auger does very little to assist with turnover. It 'unwinds' every time the agitator makes its longer, counter-clockwise stroke.

I'd say your best bet is to wash only small to medium sized loads. There is much more action under those circumstances. Also, if your water is hard, use a water softener or extra detergent. I use a maximum dose (a full scoop) of a top-notch detergent (SA8, Tide w/ Bleach, Persil) and even stained white loads come out well. I have a mechanical water softener, so the water is very soft.


Post# 202104 , Reply# 11   4/7/2007 at 22:01 (6,227 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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If you're interested, I've posted 3 videos of my washer in action at YouTube. Here's a link to the latest one.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO frigilux's LINK


Post# 202114 , Reply# 12   4/7/2007 at 22:32 (6,227 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Here's another video; This is a huge, hard to rollover load made up of mostly large, heavy items---denims and heavy cottons. You can see how it struggles to turnover this difficult load. It does manage to roll it over, albeit very slowly. I think there were only 4 complete rollovers in the 15 minute wash cycle. (I jerry-rigged the water control to fill the washer with more water than it would on its own.)

CLICK HERE TO GO TO frigilux's LINK


Post# 202117 , Reply# 13   4/7/2007 at 22:44 (6,227 days old) by westytoploader ()        
Just wondering...

Is there any particular reason why you guys are still responding to this loser after his bullshit thread in Imperial? He obviously has no interest in participating on this forum, and is simply posting to get his kicks out of everyone's comments. At the very LEAST he should be destined to a long life of using a modern Frigidaire...

Post# 202120 , Reply# 14   4/7/2007 at 23:07 (6,227 days old) by awooff (Peoria, Illinois)        

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LOL


Post# 202237 , Reply# 15   4/8/2007 at 11:51 (6,226 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
No profile, no chat.

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I still say it's nice to have a gender, an approximate age and geographical location in one's profile. Helps one get a feel for the mentality of the posting party. I kind of like to know at least in which country one is residing. It helps makes certain culturally-oriented posts/facts/thoughts more thought-provoking and worthy of examination, to me at least.

Also, if someone gives out TOO much information in their profile it may indicate that the live (physically or mentally) in "Mayberry" and that too is a clue for me to hush up and beware.



Post# 202255 , Reply# 16   4/8/2007 at 12:57 (6,226 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
Not To Worry, Liam:

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It's an eight-year-old Frigidaire. How much longer can it last?

In other words, you don't have to do anything- as they used to say back in the day, The End Is Nigh.


Post# 202327 , Reply# 17   4/8/2007 at 19:25 (6,226 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Toggle, I have seen you do a lot of things at AW.ORG, but hushing up and being wary aren't two that immediately come to mind, LOL!

Thanks for the heads-up, Austin; I wasn't aware of his pranks in the Imperial forum.


Post# 202458 , Reply# 18   4/9/2007 at 06:43 (6,226 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
Everyone who is not here, please raise your hand.

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Trust me sweetie-darling, I delete just as many potenial posts (before I hit send/enter) as I actually post.

If you can't contribute to a thread, why post? :-)



Post# 202541 , Reply# 19   4/9/2007 at 14:50 (6,225 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Whoa, I think you may have taken offense at comment in the above post, Toggle. I didn't mean to imply you post frivolously or too often! I enjoy all your posts. You've contributed a lot of fun as well as information to the site and I appreciate that. I was just commenting (with humor) that you don't strike me as a quiet personality. Sorry if that didn't come across well in my post.

Post# 202542 , Reply# 20   4/9/2007 at 14:55 (6,225 days old) by stratus ()        
Killing washing machines

hehe - i have attempted this before in the past and sucessuly killed one of our old indesit machines (i so regret it now - it had everything a washer lover loves, fun programs high rinse levels), but yea i wanted to sabotage it so mum would get a new one - i washed a shag pile rug in it, that fell apart during the cycle - it totaly wasted the machine! - could work in a t/l though they are heavy duty machines and tend to be pretty tough!!

Post# 203596 , Reply# 21   4/13/2007 at 07:45 (6,222 days old) by laundryshark (Cedar Rapids, Iowa)        
Newer Frigidaire Sounds Like Old Competition

In those video demos, that newer Frigidaire sort of reminds me of the old Frigidaire ads with the comparison between the Frigidaire washer of that golden era against the back and forth stroking "ratchity" model. Except, that the newer Frigidaire demo (especially with the heavier load), displays a similarly ratchity, grunting sound. No offense to the machine's owner, but this is my observation.--Laundry Shark

Post# 203600 , Reply# 22   4/13/2007 at 08:14 (6,222 days old) by cleanteamofny ((Monroe, New York)        

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According to the latest CR, they are hard to kill so you are stuck until the motor burns out.....

Post# 203602 , Reply# 23   4/13/2007 at 08:21 (6,222 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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LOL

Eugene, I took no offense at all! Have no fear. (I gotta watch those sweetie-darlings!) It was not meant to be NASTY at ALL!
I too hope that you were not offended or bothered by my words.

My post was inteded to be VERY light-hearted and fun. Interesting how we all have to be careful in that tone (in writing) does not always convey!

Thank you kindly for your concern. You are my hero. Are we still "ON" for doing the memoirs?


Post# 203714 , Reply# 24   4/13/2007 at 16:49 (6,221 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Absolutely, Togs!

;)



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