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Thread Number: 11287
'63 Lady K rides again! |
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| Post# 202928 4/10/2007 at 21:05 (6,219 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ) | ||
After EXTENSIVE scraping of silicone and lots of epoxy and lovin', the '63 Lady Kenmore rides again. Repairs were made to the check valve that had broken in half along the mold seam (and then made again, when it broke after the first attempted repair), and then I had to "build" a new hose when the hose from the filter to the check-valve ripped (ARGH). A new 15W light bulb for the tub, and repairs to the heat shield, and we're up and Kenmoring! I *LOVE* the Super Roto Swirl, even though I thought the Vari-Flex on the '70 was nifty and did a good job. This agitator whips denim into shape! A huge THANK YOU to Steven (wigwag) for this wonderful machine! Its mate has been drying clothes perfectly for a few weeks now :-D, and now the two can be, well, "So Happy Together..." 
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| Post# 202929 , Reply# 1 4/10/2007 at 21:06 (6,219 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ) | ||
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Panel shot | ||
| Post# 202930 , Reply# 2 4/10/2007 at 21:08 (6,219 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ) | ||
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Lil' old ladies
Steven said that the little old lady had a Sears service contract on this machine. With the exception of a few hoses and the check valve, water valve, and cabinet/control panel (and agitator), everything is brand new, including the... - base - centerpost - doughnut seal - inner basket - outer tub - spin tube - transmission - motor - belt WOWZERS! 
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| Post# 202932 , Reply# 3 4/10/2007 at 21:10 (6,219 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ) | ||
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Boogers
The only booger is the dispenser unit--it's crumbling from within. We cleaned the dispenser tank and solenoids, so they're fine--but the white part is crumbly and the posts for the screws that hold it together are turning to dust. I'll have to keep an eye peeled for one of those. That notwithstanding, I'm very much looking forward to having this as the daily-driver...I guess the 1-18 will have to go chill in the shed, which will be okay, because I still need to put the new water valve and old fill hoses back into that :-P | ||
| Post# 202934 , Reply# 4 4/10/2007 at 21:15 (6,219 days old) by scott55405 () | ||
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Most awesome Nate! I didn't know they used tublights into the 60s. | ||
Post# 202937 , Reply# 5 4/10/2007 at 21:28 (6,219 days old) by frigilux  (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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| Post# 202938 , Reply# 6 4/10/2007 at 21:28 (6,219 days old) by pturo (Syracuse, New York) | ||
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How can you not love this machine. The first photo is amazing,and amaziningly well done | ||
| Post# 202945 , Reply# 8 4/10/2007 at 21:42 (6,219 days old) by maytagbear (N.E. Ohio) | ||
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Congratulations, Nate Well done! Lawrence/Maytagbear | ||
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Post# 202946 , Reply# 9 4/10/2007 at 21:45 (6,219 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT) |
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Congrats | ||
| Post# 202950 , Reply# 10 4/10/2007 at 22:04 (6,219 days old) by tlee618 () | ||
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Nate it is just beautiful!!!!!!! I am so glad that you decided to get this beauty and keep the set together as they should be. (Do I feel a slap coming??) | ||
| Post# 202958 , Reply# 11 4/10/2007 at 22:20 (6,219 days old) by powerfin64 (Yakima, Washington) | ||
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Post# 202968 , Reply# 12 4/10/2007 at 22:46 (6,219 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Post# 202969 , Reply# 13 4/10/2007 at 22:50 (6,219 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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| Post# 202972 , Reply# 14 4/10/2007 at 22:56 (6,219 days old) by westyslantfront () | ||
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Hi Nate. Congratulations on a beautiful machine. I love turquoise...it is such a soothing color. This Lady K makes up for the evil Kenmore which is probably reincarnated as a Toyota or a Whirltag. Ross | ||
| Post# 203098 , Reply# 15 4/11/2007 at 13:44 (6,218 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ) | ||
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I didn't know they used tublights into the 60s. -- Me either! Of course, this is my first tub-light machine. The only glow that came out of the tub of the '61 was the shimmer of pure evil. I'd grown up with a 1960 Kenmore and completely lost interest in them before seeing all the great Kenmores/Whirlpools you guys have resurrected. They made fantastic sounds and really rolled a load over well. -- They ARE great!! I was amazed at how the different agitators really transform the wash action... ...and the suds-locking :-| I love that huge lamp on the console...I bet it's one hell of a nightlight! -- LOL It is! For the first few days that we had the avocado set, Frank and Will kept wondering what light was coming from the laundry room (if everyone went to bed and the machines were going). At least this model has a simple, 15W tube, rather than the unusual 28" tube on the '70 set that I had to hunt around for. I am so glad that you decided to get this beauty and keep the set together as they should be. (Do I feel a slap coming??) -- LOL No, Terry, but there were times (especially when I reinstalled the check-valve and it broke after the first epoxying) when I thought about shipping it right over to you :-) I'm glad you did encourage me to keep them together in the end, though. I'm thrilled with the way that both of these machines perform. Do you have any pictures of the matching dryer? I would love to see it close up! -- Sure, when I get the washer installed next to the dryer, I'll document both better :-) That's really cool! That was one amazing lady under the skirt, you'll have fun with this set for a long, long time! -- Well, Greg, you do know how I abhor ladies who are oily, leaky and noisy. This was a refreshing change :-D Congratulations on a beautiful machine. I love turquoise...it is such a soothing color. This Lady K makes up for the evil Kenmore which is probably reincarnated as a Toyota or a Whirltag. -- The turquoise has grown on Will, who likes it now (at least as a laundry-equipment color). And yes, this is a nice change of pace from what I've experienced in the past in terms of Kenmore repair... | ||
| Post# 203102 , Reply# 16 4/11/2007 at 14:02 (6,218 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ) | ||
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Reminiscing | ||
| Post# 203106 , Reply# 17 4/11/2007 at 14:20 (6,218 days old) by lesto (Atlanta) | ||
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Does the control dial light up as well? I remember seeing some models from 63, 64 that did. Is yours just burned out? | ||
| Post# 203110 , Reply# 18 4/11/2007 at 14:34 (6,218 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ) | ||
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HA!! | ||
| Post# 203146 , Reply# 20 4/11/2007 at 16:47 (6,218 days old) by oldwasherguy (Ladson SC) | ||
very nice | ||
| Post# 203177 , Reply# 21 4/11/2007 at 19:09 (6,218 days old) by spinmon (st. charles mo ) | ||
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PURTY !!! Very 'Searsy' in the first pic! This style of washer demo-ing at the store would mezmerize me."I wanna watch some more"..."Come ON,Billy!" Anyway,COOL machine! | ||
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Post# 203183 , Reply# 22 4/11/2007 at 19:29 (6,218 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Nate, I'm drooling Nate! 
~Steven said that the little old lady had a Sears service contract on this machine. When I worked for sears part-time at night selling appliances after my day-job as an accountant, I use to HATE selling Maintenance Agreements. Bur NOW I know what they are good for. Buy yourself something collectible in the appliance section of Sears and have it forever! (And don't tell the old lady how many times over she paid for that machine!) | ||
| Post# 203190 , Reply# 23 4/11/2007 at 19:46 (6,218 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
Nate, that is one absolutely gorgeous washing machine | ||
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Post# 203193 , Reply# 24 4/11/2007 at 19:50 (6,218 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA) |
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Nate I'm so glad you were able to get those up and running. They are such a beautiful pair. Be sure and keep them waxed with a good automotive wax (such as Meguires) to protect that beautiful paint! | ||
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Post# 203203 , Reply# 25 4/11/2007 at 20:40 (6,218 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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| Post# 203205 , Reply# 26 4/11/2007 at 20:43 (6,218 days old) by exploder3211 () | ||
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Great MAchiene | ||
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Post# 203269 , Reply# 27 4/11/2007 at 22:55 (6,218 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Nate | ||
| Post# 203276 , Reply# 28 4/11/2007 at 23:43 (6,218 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ) | ||
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Thank you so much, everyone, for all the nice posts! This style of washer demo-ing at the store would mezmerize me. -- Me too! All I can think of when I watch it is poker chips :-) (I've heard that old clear-tub demo units with Roto-Swirls had poker chips to underscore the water circulation...) I'll take turquoise every time; it's so much more vibrant. -- I agree! I love pink, but turquoise just BEGS to live in the laundry room. It's AquaGroovy! Speaking of color: what is that beautiful orange creamsicle light on the right? -- A tiny rectangular light with vertical letters that says "FILTERING" to remind you that, while there is no waterfall, the water is still being filtered. On this machine, a plastic filter module full of tiny glass marbles does the job. When it backflushes the filter as it drains, you can hear the marbles scatter! Be sure and keep them waxed with a good automotive wax (such as Meguires) to protect that beautiful paint! -- Thanks, Steve! I sure will. Roger cleaned the paint up beautifully, and I don't really think I'm going to repaint them yet. Just protect it, and "keep it real" :-) Great job once again! -- Thank you, Robert!! :-D And the spot scrubber cap too. Although has anyone ever seen anybody use that tie scrubbing feature?? -- Not I (I think that any scrubber cap I'd found would leave a grey racing-stripe on any fabric you dared grind against it), but with the amount of worn ones we find, you'd think they did. Neat idea--but I think I'd skip the SpotScrubber feature myself. Can you imagine trying to scrub a spot, having the article of clothing dip into the water, and then playing tug-of-war with the Roto-Swirl? Eep! Looks like it still has the bakelite surgilator no? I swear bakelite moves water better than styrene plastic! -- Yes, it does. The bakelite Super Roto Swirl, running off a nylon drive-block that presses over the splines on the newer transmission's agitator shaft. We may be biased, but I have a soft-spot for Bakelite, too. Well, actually, more like a rigid, easily-cracked spot. Neat feature of this machine--use any standard capacity agitator you want!! :-) | ||
| Post# 203277 , Reply# 29 4/11/2007 at 23:45 (6,218 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ) | ||
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This is the machine I grew up with. I don't rember mom using anything but cycle A and B. I'll come right out and say that I'm an A/B/G boy myself. Bob will slap me :-) The off balance buzzer would scare me to death. When I heard the spin selonoid shift I would run out of the room until it was spining and I knew it was not off balance. I look forward to my first off-balance load. I tripped the lever for show the other day, and was transported back to my grandmother's Kenmore, which did the same thing, and sent everyone hurtling for the machine whenever it did that. Not because disaster had struck, but because nobody liked the sound of that @$#@! buzzer! | ||
| Post# 203365 , Reply# 30 4/12/2007 at 11:10 (6,217 days old) by retroguy () | ||
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Nate.... That is too cool. Your machines are always fun to look at. Thanks for sharing! | ||
| Post# 204659 , Reply# 31 4/17/2007 at 01:01 (6,213 days old) by wigwag (San Diego) | ||
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Awesome!! I'm so glad you got the machines up and running. No comment on the silicone =) Its a delightful machine and I'm so glad you got them. The green kids are doing great, I'm rebuilding the pump right now but I couldn't be happier with them! Will post pics soon, really lol | ||
| Post# 204711 , Reply# 32 4/17/2007 at 09:42 (6,212 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ) | ||
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LOL | ||
| Post# 204911 , Reply# 33 4/18/2007 at 00:46 (6,212 days old) by wigwag (San Diego) | ||
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just a little bindy When I rebuilt my last WP i remembered reading the belt was supposed to slip a bit when it goes into spin to not lug the motor. When I loosed the belt the pump stopped turning, plus I noticed it didn't drain a full empty tub in the aloted time. No biggie =) S | ||
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Post# 204915 , Reply# 34 4/18/2007 at 01:58 (6,211 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Slippage? | ||
| Post# 204953 , Reply# 35 4/18/2007 at 08:33 (6,211 days old) by rickr (.) | ||
The belt should not be real tight, as it puts a strain on the pump bearings. But it should never be loose enough to slip.WP/KM belts should be adjusted to be snug. A little flex should be possible on the belt between the pulleys. If the belt slips at all, it will make for a short life of the belt. Maytag machines were designed to have the belt slip in place of a spin clutch. That is the only machine that I know of that was designed that way. Maytag belts are made of a special material to be able to be used this way, | ||
| Post# 204980 , Reply# 37 4/18/2007 at 10:39 (6,211 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ) | ||
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LOL Déja vù
Steven, when the belt was too loose on this machine, you had your choice: spin, pump, but not both. With a half-inch deflection on the belt, it's still pretty tight. I had it tightened up to about that level before the wash-in. When it's too loose, no, it won't pump out the water. That was one of the first issues I had with this machine, and tightening the belt resolved it. Barring any extenuating circumstances, retightening it should fix it. I've always found it hard to maintain tension on the belt, though, when retightening the bolts that hold the motor. Maybe one of our other WP/KM gurus who goes it solo has some recommendations for the process :-) | ||
| Post# 204981 , Reply# 38 4/18/2007 at 10:45 (6,211 days old) by wigwag (San Diego) | ||
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The pump Todays candidate for rebuild is... 
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| Post# 204988 , Reply# 39 4/18/2007 at 11:50 (6,211 days old) by rickr (.) | ||
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When I tighten a belt on a WP/KM, I use a pry bar on the motor bracket to put tension on the belt. Keep the pressure on the bar until both bolts in the motor mounting bracket are tight. If the belt is brand new, I tend to tighten it a bit more, because a new belt will stretch a bit after it has been ran for awhile. New four port pumps are only about $25.00 to $30.00, so if your pump is not simply clogged, it may be best just to replace your pump rather than try to rebuild it. | ||
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