Thread Number: 11930
Frigidaire built F/L: How reliable are current models? |
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Post# 211746 , Reply# 2   5/22/2007 at 23:09 (6,180 days old) by golittlesport (California)   |   | |
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Post# 211883 , Reply# 7   5/23/2007 at 15:43 (6,179 days old) by nurdlinger (Tucson AZ)   |   | |
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It's a twin to the Frigidaire 2940. I have owned it for 23 months, in which time it has washed three loads per week without incident. I have no idea whether this is typical usage or not. I remove the water from the boot when done for the day, and leave the door open all the time. The only thing I have found annoying is that usage of liquid detergent causes slimy buildup on the surface underneath the removable detergent/bleach/softener drawer. Liquid fabric softener did this too so I stopped using that and use white vinegar instead.
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Post# 211899 , Reply# 8   5/23/2007 at 17:12 (6,179 days old) by cny4 (Central New York)   |   | |
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White vinegar can be used in place of fabric softener? Any residual odor? |
Post# 211924 , Reply# 10   5/23/2007 at 20:00 (6,179 days old) by golittlesport (California)   |   | |
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White vinegar can be used as an "acid rinse" and leaves no residual odor. In fact, vinegar is a deodorizer when used in the proper concentrations. Although it will not produce the same softness as a fabric softener will, it does aid in rinsing detergent from the clothes and can make the fabrics feel a bit softer than nothing added at all. I have used vinegar in the first rinse in my machine by adding it to the bleach dispenser (since I don't use chlorine bleach) with good results. It is advisable to clean out the dispenser cavity once in a while...I clean mine once or twice a year. It is easily accomplished by pulling the dispenser drawer all the way out. The dispenser stays fairly clean all the time since water is flowing through it. Certainly the dispenser is a step above those top loading agitator dispensers that get all gunked up and gross. |
Post# 212043 , Reply# 13   5/24/2007 at 17:48 (6,178 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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I've told ya, vinegar does not remove detergents, but rather some hard water minerals, and the "soap scum" which forms with hard water (which is mainly minerals), along with sodium bicarbonate (what sodium carbonate/washing soda breaks down to as a residue in laundry). Removing such substances is what makes laundry feel softer, but that has nothing to do with detergents. That is to say neither vinegar nor sour rinses will remove surfactants, enzymes or any of the other chemicals found in laundry products. Sour rinsing also brings down the final pH of laundry by again, removing the alkaline residues/substances mentioned above, which are common to some powder laundry detergents. Same effect if one has ever washed one's hair with a strong soap,detergent or high pH shampoo, and followed with a vinegar rinse. You can instantly feel the hair becoming softer and "smoother" as fibers that were once roughed up (due to the high base pH), are calmed down. Just for the record, it is worth saying again, that all liquid laundry detergents are neutral to only slighly alkaline, and in some cases slighly acidic, in which case sour rinses are not necessary as their isn't any thing for them to "work" on. Even some TOL domestic and commercial laundry products have moved away from high base pH laundry chemistry, which means they to do not need "sour" laundry rinses. Finally as posted before, one wants to use vinegar as well as any acid with caution on cotton and linen fibers. Such textiles can be easily damaged by acids, even a weak one such as vinegar. Commercial laundries use various methods to test the final pH of the rinse water to make sure they are not using too much sour. As some dyes are also affected by acids, it is not uncommon for some garments, especially men's shirts to warn about over use of laundry sours. L. |
Post# 212056 , Reply# 14   5/24/2007 at 19:08 (6,178 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Problem with many of these frontloaders is the maker's desire to keep costs down, versus the high costs to produce a top quality front loading washing machine. There is no doubt about it, H-axis washing machines cost more to design and produce than their top loading counter parts. This is why even simple/basic commercial front loaders still cost over one thousand dollars. Still such a unit will last 15 years or more. Units are easily serviced, with parts that come right off the shelf. Same as with many European front loaders, still giving daily service 15 or more years after they rolled off the assembly line. Indeed units such as these are more likely to be replaced more because of a desire for a newer model,than anything really wrong with them. American domestic laundry appliance makers for the most part really would prefer not to deal with front loaders, but Federal and local energy/water regulations are making life difficult for them. Technology is out there, but again it is pricey, and Americans have long moved major appliances into the realm of "toss away" goods. Who is going to invest the R&D for a top quality front loader, that would cost over one thousand dollars when much of the market won't pony up that kind of money for "just a washer". So what do we get? More and more of Asian made garbarge, built by people who subsist on three or four USA a day. You have to love progress. L. |
Post# 212079 , Reply# 16   5/24/2007 at 21:38 (6,178 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 212106 , Reply# 18   5/25/2007 at 00:21 (6,178 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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*LOL* Have set aside a trust fund to keep my vintage Miele going, as can't be bothered with the modern stuff. Keep your eyes on eBay and Craigslist, amoung other sources for older Miele units. They come up more often than thou would imagine. Many people buying new homes and find the units chuck em to the curb. Or local PC Richards had a older W1918 sitting in the clearance section for ages. Salesman said because of the 220v power requirement, there were no takers. L. |
Post# 212165 , Reply# 19   5/25/2007 at 08:59 (6,177 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)   |   | |
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Because they are manufactured in the same factory as the Wascomat comercial machines,The Frigidaire front loading washers have to pass the sme high standards a sthe comercial machines.Due to that,they are much better built.That gives them a slight lead over everybody else.The other factor that does that is their price.
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Post# 212176 , Reply# 20   5/25/2007 at 09:55 (6,177 days old) by golittlesport (California)   |   | |
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