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Thread Number: 12150
High Temp Wash Question, New Washer In the Works |
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Post# 214457 , Reply# 1 6/5/2007 at 17:16 (6,163 days old) by launderess  (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Polyester like most man made fiber is thermoplastic, that is high heat will cause the fiber to distort and or crease. If your washing machine has a permanent press cycle then laundring poly or poly/cotton at 120F would be the highest one would go. My Miele adds cold water towards the end of the PP cycle, then drains a bit,then repeat about several times. This cools down the temp before the complete drain of the wash water. It also give three rinses without spins in between to further in sure fiber protection. Personally have found no difference in whites done with Persil or a good regular TOL HE detergent and a dose of oxygen bleach, done at 120F versus 140F or higher. Only time will use temps of 140F is when laundering towels and such to "sanitise". Am here to tell you that repeated laundering of most of today's textiles at temps of 170F or above will greatly shorten their lifespan. Problem is the very long cycle times, coupled with high heat. One shouldn't "boil" laundry for more than 10 minutes; however most front loaders with heaters have very long wash cycles, especially those running on 120V. Forty-five mintues of being beaten about is not great for many things, especially at temps of 160F and above. Shrinkage normally occurs with very hot water washing AND hot drying/over drying. However hot water in general tends to cause more wrinkling and "shrinkage" due to fibers and threads constricting during the wash process. | ||
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Post# 214523 , Reply# 2 6/5/2007 at 22:17 (6,163 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Usign this mettod and pelnty of rinsing I no longer get the 
~I'm allergic to chlorine bleach, so that's not an option for keeping whites white. (BASE/ALKALINE) Even if the laundry is rinsed in white vinegar which chemically neutralizes the bleach? (ACID) ACID + BASE => (yields) SALT + WATER. Oven cleaner is composed of lye, and is higly alkaline/ base. Rinse is done with vinegar (or lemon) and water. Resulting streaks are salt, which need more rinsing. Harsh chemical is by this method gone and neutralized, and the oven is one again safe for food. Should be the same with bleach......... You want to see an alergic reation? So waht I did years ago... reverse the bleach and softener in the dispensers of a machine that does not have the slots marked.......... OWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW. Every time I'd sweat it would reactivate the bleach and burn my skin... AIIIIIIIIII. | ||
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Post# 214554 , Reply# 4 6/6/2007 at 06:24 (6,163 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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STPP - Nuff Said
If you want to keep whites "white", there is nothing better than a good "hot" wash (120F is fine), and some phosphates, along with a good detergent either with oxygen bleach or added seperately. Very high wash temps are fine for removing some stains,but find, as stated before 120F to 140F with a good detergent (I add STPP on it's own, but sometimes don't when using the German detergent Persil), and there is less stress/damage to textiles. Noticed no real difference in normal laundry results when cranking up the temp to extreme temperatures verus the lower range of "hot" water. Trick for good laundry and stain removal when using hot water is to either start with warm and let the machine gradually bring the water up to temp, or, have cool to warm pre-wash cycle first then a hot wash. L. | ||
| Post# 214573 , Reply# 5 6/6/2007 at 09:26 (6,163 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK) | ||
Chlorine bleach in Euro type front loaders..
Isnt needed- simple..... If you use a decent detergent no front loading machine should require chlorine bleach- especially not Miele and other models with inbuilt heaters and longer wash times. The only UK market machines that have a bleach compartment are some AEG models and its labeled stain treatment not bleach! Seamus | ||
| Post# 218403 , Reply# 9 6/26/2007 at 10:09 (6,143 days old) by lavamat78800 () | ||
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In my dryers manual is written that the biggest abbrasion is while washing clothes and that the smallest abbrasion is while drying in a tumble-dryer. | ||
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Post# 218406 , Reply# 10 6/26/2007 at 10:13 (6,143 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains) |
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Ralf,
I am not quite sure tumble drying is as bad for clothes as all that. I live in a "Beamtenghetto" in Munich and the old biddies don't let us young things (jeder unter 70 ist "jung") use the clothes line. Because of this, I tumble dry everything. Lots of my silk shirts are over 10 years old, many cotton shirts from the 1980's. (I have no fashion sense, none). Of course, I don't dry wool and knits are dried at a very low temperature. But nothing has been destroyed yet. I think too hot of water, chlorine bleach, too much harsh detergent and too long washing are much worse than drying just until ready to go in the wardrobe. Oh, do you remember the old Siemens symbols for "Shranktrocken?" I think I lived in Germany for 10 years before I figured out that that was supposed to be a wardrobe! Maybe it was the same idiot who did the picto-gramms for the '72 Olympics | ||
| Post# 218741 , Reply# 12 6/27/2007 at 10:05 (6,142 days old) by irishwashguy (Salem,Oregon.............A Capital City) | ||
I use high teps with Persil or Oxy clean
This is a great way to do it. It works well for me.I just have to rememmber that when I am washing jeans, the highest I will go is 120, on anything coloured, that is a rule of thumb.My Miele has a setting that is called sturdy that can be a do it all program at 105 and an 800 spin speed, or Wrinkle free that does fewer interm spins to reduce wrinkles.I use bleach sparingly and only when I have to. I have a bleaching pen for spots only. I would never put bleach in a whole load of wash. My stuff always looks great with out it. I would suggest a Miele or the new Bosch. I have many friend that love their Bosch, I love the new dryers with the windows, and they are 6.7 cubic feet, that is massive for a dryer.The washers are so quiet, you can't even hear it. I love the tumble pattern as well at the front of the program. Always use good soap, like Persil or the Sa-8.The Tide will ruin the pumps in your machine, as well as fade your clothes and make them look old.I have pants that are from the early 90's that still look like new.Just my two cents
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