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| Post# 214735 6/6/2007 at 23:32 (6,160 days old) by mixguy (St. Martinville, Louisiana) | ||
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Anyone in the group have or have any comment about top loading, horizontal axis, Saber clothes washers and dryers? | ||
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Post# 214739 , Reply# 1 6/6/2007 at 23:41 (6,160 days old) by pulsator  (Saint Joseph, MI) |
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Post# 214743 , Reply# 2 6/7/2007 at 00:22 (6,160 days old) by volvoguy87 (Cincinnati, OH) |
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Staber.
I too am curious but know little about stabers. What do they look like, and can we get a picture of one near something more familiar to establish scale? What is their capacity? How long is their cycle? Do they get clothes clean? How do they compare to other front-loaders/top loaders for performance? Are they worth the price? Although I have heard that they need work every now and then, will they last considerably longer than their competition? I am not a fan of front loaders because of their super-long cycles and short lifespans. I believe that a washer should reliably last at least 20 years doing at least 7 loads per week. As for the noise, some of us like the particular noises a machine makes, like a chugging 1-18, a WP/KM Belt Drive, or even a classic Maytag swirl-away draining. I admit I am partial to a Maytag Neptune going into spin. I think I'll drain my Maytag, Dave | ||
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Post# 214757 , Reply# 3 6/7/2007 at 03:37 (6,160 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains) |
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Staber
I talked to them for quite a while back in 2005. They sent me their literature. Basically, they are the only US built H-Axis TLs. They do the sheet metal work and design; they buy in the mechanicals from Whirlpool. This means you will have guaranteed no parts problems for like forever, but, yes - stuff like pumps will show the same weaknesses (and advantages) you find in American dishwashers and European machines. When I asked about quality, they said they learn from their mistakes because they can't afford to lose market share, so quality problems are taken seriously. When I asked about bearing failures (mentioned on internet fora) they said, yup - we have had some, problem is fixed now - but with a used machine, definitely call the factory and find out whether it has the new or old design. I couldn't go with them because I am not in the US often enough and the in-duh-vi-duals who do repair and service in Northern Colorado couldn't find their arses with both hands and a flashlight. But if I were there all the time and if I had to take a TL, they are the only US brand I would consider. When is the last time GE or Whirlpool admitted they had built a bad product? You can find a lot of (slanted, friendly) advice about them at: applianceguru.com/... if you enter "staber" in the forum search field. Most folks there are Staber fans. When I wrote a few (the ones who had problems), they all wrote back that Staber was OK about it. CLICK HERE TO GO TO panthera's LINK 
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Post# 214759 , Reply# 4 6/7/2007 at 03:41 (6,160 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains) |
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a useful link
Here is a direct comparison of Staber to Whirlpool Duet. Remember, tho' - these folks are Staber fans. Forget the first paragraph about Mac and Pc. They are still fighting that one out. CLICK HERE TO GO TO panthera's LINK | ||
| Post# 214760 , Reply# 5 6/7/2007 at 03:41 (6,160 days old) by sudsman () | ||
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We tried 2 of them here No Service what ever. u fix or no fix. Problems with the drain pumps and motors we junked them both after 8 mons.Really a shame a good idea and did a good job of washing.. but VERY cheaply made. | ||
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Post# 214768 , Reply# 6 6/7/2007 at 05:41 (6,160 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains) |
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Lee,
The service thing is what keeps coming up in the fora - if'n you can't fix it yourself, you are SOL. But I am a bit surprised - basically, these are Whirlpool parts. Can't have been that hard to get them? I'd be interested to know exactly what the problems were with getting them fixed - I really like them and find the prices for European machines in the 'States absurd. | ||
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Post# 214772 , Reply# 7 6/7/2007 at 07:02 (6,160 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 214773 , Reply# 8 6/7/2007 at 07:03 (6,160 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 214785 , Reply# 9 6/7/2007 at 08:11 (6,160 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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wow Panthera
Are you sure about the WP parts sourcing now? When I bought my home & commmercial models in 1999-2000 most parts were sourced from Germany. The motor and control board, the water level control, dispenser, shocks. I bought numbers 100 & 101 off the assembly line. I was very impressed with the washing ability. I was not impressed with the 700 RPM Spin. I was very unimpressed with the then current enigneering. Over the course of two years each machine practically had all major parts replaced my me. That meant I spent most weekends that year with the machines apart in my house and my tenants house----which was a ROYAL PAIN IN THE A&*! Tenants don't want broken machines around and they make that perfectly CLEAR>>>> alot! Staber did send all parts overnite express to me and there never was a charge in all that time. And early on I was so enthused I tried to become a dealer for them in NE but they were not at all interested in that prospect. That really turned me off to the product and the company. My machines got traded for two workable GE Combos which I must say I have had much more fun with. Those two machines with new bearings ofcourse now reside in MD where they are very well taken care of I must say! | ||
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Post# 214817 , Reply# 12 6/7/2007 at 12:51 (6,160 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains) |
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Bauknecht
Sorry, I should have been clearer. My info was, they use Whirlpool parts; the logic, pump, etc. are built in Germany for Whirlpool Europe. But that was at a trade show in 2000, so maybe it is old knowledge...have to say though, that pump sure looked like all the stuff they put in Bauknecht. And Bauknecht was already Whirlpool back then. Anyway, I wonder if they are really any worse than the other US built stuff. It is more the servicing problem from what I can tell. That 8-sided in the 6-sided thingy, yeah, well, I think that is sort of a gag, too. But who knows? They definitely do a good job cleaning and rinsing, so I am not going to discount it. After all, Candy has used various tub/drum shapes over the years to "save" water. | ||
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