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Thread Number: 12696
interesting map of electricity costs in the USA |
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| Post# 221398 , Reply# 1 7/8/2007 at 13:13 (6,129 days old) by passatdoc (Orange County, California) | ||
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oops here is a clickable link and an image Link to energy cost map: CLICK HERE TO GO TO passatdoc's LINK 
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Post# 221418 , Reply# 2 7/8/2007 at 15:18 (6,129 days old) by stopmeister72  (Irving, TX) |
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wow
TXU is charging me 13.54 cents per kilowatt now in Texas. Can't image how much my electric bill would be if I hadn't put in some insulation summer before last. The sad thing is, that since the rates kept going up, didn't see much difference in the bill. During the summer, i run between $300-$400 on electic usage, thank god for average billing!!!!!!
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| Post# 221421 , Reply# 3 7/8/2007 at 15:23 (6,129 days old) by accapp () | ||
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Miele makes a special box which plugs into a 240v outlet and splits it into two outlets, one for the washer, one for the dryer. Only costs around $250 but you can make something similar for about $20 in electrical parts. They come up on ebay every so often. | ||
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Post# 221429 , Reply# 4 7/8/2007 at 16:49 (6,129 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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| Post# 221432 , Reply# 5 7/8/2007 at 17:05 (6,129 days old) by dj-gabriele () | ||
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I want US prices too! God Lord, that is waaay cheaper than here, I knew it was cheaper but not that much! In Italy the price for electricity is 0,23€/kWh that means 0,31 $ per kWh (give or take 5% depending on the utility company) | ||
| Post# 221461 , Reply# 7 7/8/2007 at 19:36 (6,129 days old) by sudsman () | ||
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In Fort Worth TXU is charging 13.97 | ||
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Post# 221462 , Reply# 8 7/8/2007 at 19:42 (6,129 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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| Post# 221542 , Reply# 11 7/9/2007 at 04:47 (6,128 days old) by lederstiefel1 () | ||
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Electricity cost in Leverkusen/Cologne We pay actually about 15,5 Euro-Cents which is almost 20,0 Dollar-Cents per kilowatt hour and they promised us to rise the price this year again! Ralf | ||
| Post# 221544 , Reply# 12 7/9/2007 at 04:58 (6,128 days old) by dj-gabriele () | ||
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> Lederstiefel1 rising prices: that's the good thing about getting rid of nuclear power plants! | ||
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Post# 221547 , Reply# 13 7/9/2007 at 06:01 (6,128 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc) |
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Don't be in a hurry to get rid of "nuke" plants-In some areas putting these on line has REDUCED electric bills!VEPCO in US is an example. | ||
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Post# 221561 , Reply# 14 7/9/2007 at 08:16 (6,128 days old) by dalangdon (Seattle, WA) |
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Nuclear power is cutting off your nose to spite your face. Anything with a highly toxic waste by-product that lasts three times the length of human history is a bad idea. If they could figure out a way to clean up that problem, however, I'd be all for it :-) | ||
| Post# 221562 , Reply# 15 7/9/2007 at 08:39 (6,128 days old) by lederstiefel1 () | ||
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nuclear power dj-gabriele: you are sooo right!!! We pay millions of tax to substitute nuclear power of being competitive on the market!! And: nobody< on this planet has any idea where to store the nuclear waste! No thank-you!! Ralf | ||
| Post# 221589 , Reply# 17 7/9/2007 at 11:29 (6,128 days old) by dj-gabriele () | ||
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BUT I AM PRO NUCLEAR!!!! I'M A NUCLEAR ENGENEER! I was just being sarcastic about the rising prices =equal= lack of nuclear plants! Oh my! BTW: France, UK and Japan actively recycle nuclear fuel, only USA decided to store it for the millennia to come. | ||
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Post# 221591 , Reply# 18 7/9/2007 at 11:34 (6,128 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O ) |
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| Post# 221617 , Reply# 19 7/9/2007 at 15:35 (6,128 days old) by passatdoc (Orange County, California) | ||
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Yeah, those are the fixed costs of operating the system and you pay those regardless of how much electricity you use. | ||
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Post# 221634 , Reply# 20 7/9/2007 at 17:31 (6,128 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA) |
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| Post# 221943 , Reply# 22 7/11/2007 at 09:52 (6,126 days old) by irishwashguy (Salem,Oregon.............A Capital City) | ||
Nuclear power...........BAD...Solar power, Good......
They closed the only Nuclear power plant in Ranier, Or about ten or so years ago, as far as I can see, it has not changed our rate at all. We have Portland Genral Electric, formerly of ENRON, till their demise, now PGE is independant of anyone.i will say that the Bush administration has been after low electric rates here in the Northwest since it has stolen itw way into the white house.Within the last month, they managed to take away our discount that we had from the Bonnoville Power people, now we get to pay for it. All of the electric utilities in Or and Wash, reguardless of who runs the local electric company. My mother lives in Clark County Washington, and now payes the same increase I do. i was truely shocked---no pun intended of course, to see that they even went to court over this. PS I am planning to get solar pannels when I move. They are a big investment, about tweny thousand, when you are talking about borrowing 340,000, then, it seems to make sence. That way it will save money over the long run.it is still a though, I just do not know anyone that has one as of yet, i am sure that i will though. | ||
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Post# 224545 , Reply# 29 7/22/2007 at 16:50 (6,115 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA) |
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Post# 224822 , Reply# 34 7/23/2007 at 23:56 (6,113 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA) |
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Hi Tom, I might know some of the answers as I have been interested in nuclear energy. But if anyone knows better correct me if I am wrong. The water that escaped from the nuclear stations in Japan may have leaked out of the cooling system, it is possible the water could have escaped from the turbine side of the power plant. The GE boiling water reactor is popular in Japan and that has slightly radioactive water going to the turbines. Hopefully, it wasn't much and won't do much damage. It is likely the reactor "scrammed" itself and shut down. But the utility probably wants to get some of the nuclear power plants going again. Fossil fueled plants are probably damaged and electricity is needed to assist in the recovery efforts. The barrels that fell over likely had "low level nuclear waste", items such as filters, gloves, protective clothing, boots, wipes, things that are used to maintain the facility. This items should be dry and can be placed back in the barrels. They probably wait until they have enough barrels for a truckload, then take them to a waste facility, whatever they may have. Some lab tests in hospitals use small amounts of radioactive material and this is how they handle such waste. High level waste is the spent fuel rods that have been unloaded from the reactor after being used for a year or more. In France, for example, this waste, which would be solid, is melted into the glass (vitrification) where it would be unlikely to be released into the environment. In the US, such waste will eventually be taken to Yucca Mountain in Nevada. Right now, spent fuel rods are keep in extra-deep "swimming pools" at nuclear power plants to "cool off" and lose some of their intense radiation. Reprocessing nuclear waste is possible and is practiced by Areva in the Le Hague plant in the north of France. Spent fuel rods, in a sealed chamber, are dissolved in nitric acid and the elements such as the unused uranium and plutonium are filtered out and can be used to fabricate new fuel. Fuel with plutonium is "mixed oxide fuel (MOX)" and can be used in most existing reactors. Becuase of worries of nuclear proliferation (plutonium is the stuff of bombs), President Carter banned reprocessing in the US in 1977 and no President since has been interested enough to even bring up the issue. A lot of nuclear waste has also been created by nuclear weapons programs, this will also go to Yucca Mountain (if Congress approves). I encourage you to go to the website of the Nuclear Energy Institute - it is pro nuclear but it is very informative. CLICK HERE TO GO TO neptunebob's LINK | ||
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Post# 224831 , Reply# 35 7/24/2007 at 00:04 (6,113 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA) |
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De Gabriele, now it's your turn!
Please to the Areva web site and click on "Careers", they even have opportunities for students. Areva builds the EPR - European Pressurized Reactor in Finland - I guess the people up there have to power their saunas somehow. Oh, and I like their catchy commercials too!
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Post# 224837 , Reply# 37 7/24/2007 at 00:16 (6,113 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA) |
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Actually, I'm not sure how the terrorists might get the plutonium but I believe at the time Jimmy Carter thought that the US reprocessing might send the wrong message to the rest of the world, that they might feel the need to reprocess if we did and another country could extract the plutonium. I do know that nuclear proliferation was the fear here. Proliferation fears were also why the breeder reactor was canceled in this country. Breeder reactors, which are cooled by hot sodium (dangerous!) create more plutonium, thus creating more fuel than it uses. But their rods would also have to be reprocessed. Of course, separating the plutonium from nitric acid, as obnoxious as that is, would be easier for government to do than what we had to do in WWII - create plutonium in reactors in Hanford WA. Seems like when it comes to nuclear energy, the US did all the hard work!
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| Post# 224871 , Reply# 41 7/24/2007 at 03:10 (6,113 days old) by goprog () | ||
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I never ever tought about discussing such an important topic (at least to me) in a forum dedicated to washing machines :D I'm as happy as I can be!!! Robert may need a nuclear reactor to run Super Unimatic 3.0. | ||
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Post# 224983 , Reply# 44 7/24/2007 at 18:26 (6,113 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA) |
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Dj is that a new reactor vessel/power station? If it was used, I would think there would be radiation coming from the steel walls. Or is it possible to "clean off" radiation? I heard that when they decomissisioned the Shippingport Atomic Power Station (Americas first commercial nuclear reactor, built by Westinghouse outside of Pittsburgh) that they used Tide to clean the radioactive parts.
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Post# 225004 , Reply# 45 7/24/2007 at 20:03 (6,113 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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I still say have the government give everyone a new roof with new photovoltiac solar panels on them, and have the panels feed clean electricity into the grid. (Have the gov't replace both every 20 years in 20-year continuing cycle.) Electronic controls are now becoming cheap enough to synchronize and modulate the A/C current that would be fed back into the grid. With net metering (meter spins forward when you consume more than you produce, and backward when you produce more than you consume) we'd all probably see much lower electrical costs. Perhaps the biggest benefit would be greatly reducing the need for foreign oil and other fuels, which would help reduce greenhouse gas emissions. With affordable eletricity from this source we'd also be able to burn less fuel for heat in wintertime by using electrically powered heat-pumps to move heat, rather than by permanently releasing heat into the atmosphere by way of oil and gas combustion. Personally, I have no objection to sending less money to most of the tradtional oil-producing reigions of the world. | ||
| Post# 225430 , Reply# 52 7/26/2007 at 14:43 (6,111 days old) by dj-gabriele () | ||
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Thanks for the link to the survey, it's unbeliavable how misleading that could be! And please! Gabriele with a single L, that's all the difference between female and male (me) ;) | ||
| Post# 225431 , Reply# 53 7/26/2007 at 14:52 (6,111 days old) by goprog () | ||
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Gabriele Oops - sorry... | ||
| Post# 225432 , Reply# 54 7/26/2007 at 14:55 (6,111 days old) by goprog () | ||
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I questioned the information, too, but as I had said earlier. Large (industrial) users usually get better rates than small users - and I have no idea what the VAT/taxes/fees are that get added on. | ||
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