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A Hotpoint Washer in Australia??
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Post# 224154   7/21/2007 at 05:19 (6,123 days old) by washboy2005 (UK)        

I had no idea they had proper Hotpoint's in Australia!

These are awesome machines!


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Post# 224155 , Reply# 1   7/21/2007 at 05:27 (6,123 days old) by washboy2005 (UK)        

And Another!

Shows what you find when you have a good look!


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Post# 224156 , Reply# 2   7/21/2007 at 05:38 (6,123 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
I have seen...

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But cant remember where :(

A pic of a (very rusty) 1828 Purple Liberator in Australia badged as a GEC Automatic!

Seamus


Post# 224176 , Reply# 3   7/21/2007 at 08:57 (6,123 days old) by gizmo (Victoria, Australia)        

The purple GEC was mine.

I got it in poor condition, fixed it up to OK working but rough looking condition, gave it to a neighbour who needed a machine. They totally neglected it, installed it into a disused shower recess so it stood in its own pump out water. It rusted to blazes, they gave it back to me when the door lock failed. (gee, thanks!) I considered trying to treat the rust but it was too far gone so it has now gone to the scrap metal man.

I also have a UK Hotpoint 9560W, the top of the range from 1986. It was a private import, they weren't sold here. I got it not working, got a set of repaired circuit boards sent out. I used it as my main machine when I lived in the city, but due to its heavy current drain I can't use it on my solar power system, and its electronics are very sensitive to voltage fluctuations so it won't work at all on my diesel generator. (the display goes berserk with segments lighting up all over the place.) It needs a belt and the door lock occasionally won't open, plus it is a bit knocked about (was when I got it) so I am currently debating with myself if I should keep it or dispose of it. It is of no use to me as I can't run it, I can't sell it as no parts are available here, and although it was advanced in its day, I actually think it is a poorly engineered crappy machine, though you UK guys seem fond of them. But it is rare and interesting so I am reluctant to scrap it just yet.

Those GE badged Hotpoints were sold here for a few years, GE had big plans for the model and stated they intended to become the best selling front loader in AU. It never happened - priced a bit too dear, very noisy, cycles too long, spare parts stupidly expensive. For example, a set of brushes for a Hoover Zodiac 470 cost about $7, for the GE they cost $120. People scrapped them at a yound age as repairs were uneconomical, told all their friends and neighbours about what a dud machine they were, and guess what? people stopped buying them. GE FLs are no longer sold here...surprise surprise!

Chris.


Post# 224177 , Reply# 4   7/21/2007 at 08:59 (6,123 days old) by gizmo (Victoria, Australia)        

PS they were never badged as Hotpoint, as the name is owned by an electric heater company. So UK Hotpoint machines were sold here badged as GEC inthe 1970s and as GE in the 1990s, not sold at all in the 1980s and not recently. Never in big numbers either.
Chris.


Post# 224254 , Reply# 5   7/21/2007 at 15:50 (6,122 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Chris.....

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Does the 9560w have the economy wash?- this should cut the heater out and utalise the incoming hot water, should solve the load problem??.

A set of GDA carbons usually cost between £5 and £10 over here.

Seamus


Post# 224435 , Reply# 6   7/22/2007 at 09:14 (6,122 days old) by gizmo (Victoria, Australia)        

Hi Seamus
No, from memory, no economy wash. That's not the only issue - the motor uses a great whack of electricity too. It is a very inefficient machine - the motor uses over 1000 watts when washing; the wash cycles are long ("mixed wash", a low temperature programme, washes for THREE HOURS before any rinsing or spinning!); it rinses poorly as the shape of the drum floor keeps a little suds back during each pump out; it takes twenty minutes mucking about in tiny bursts of spin at gradually increasing speeds before it finally gets up to max speed of 1400 rpm, then only stays there a few seconds. It surprised me really, there are a huge number of programmes and each can be further varied with three soil levels, but it seems the designers couldn't imagine that anyone would want to do a heaterless wash, or a cold wash (lowest temp is 30 degrees, and it is only available with slow spins). The "super spin", a spin-only programme that gets up to 1400 rpm, takes about the same time as a full wash, five rinses and spin on an Aussie Hoover Zodiac front loader. It would have been so easy with a computerised machine to offer the user to create their own programme, choose their own fill temp, heater temp, no heat option, wash time and action, number of rinses, water level, and spin speeds, but the Hotpoint only offers a large number of variations on a programme that is fundamentally nothing like what I want it to do. (and nothing like the way most Aussies prefer to wash.)

Chris



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