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Post# 226750   8/1/2007 at 12:13 (6,106 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Well yesterday I splurged and bought a new Kitchen Aid to replace my 16 year old Maytag. I got it at Sears and will be picking it up early next week. I'm going to take the old dishwasher out myself and install the new one. I've never done it before but it doesn't look that difficult (yeah right! LOL)

Gary





Post# 226752 , Reply# 1   8/1/2007 at 12:16 (6,106 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Sorry guys, posted in the wrong thread.

Post# 226767 , Reply# 2   8/1/2007 at 14:02 (6,106 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Much luck. Let me know how you like the KA Tall-tub.

Today's SS braided DW inlet hoses that replace older copper tubung are a snap to install. Good luck. Don't forget that your drain hose may have to loop "UP" as high as it can go to prevent siphoning.

...and of course kill the power when working on it (before it kills you!)

:-)


Post# 226864 , Reply# 3   8/1/2007 at 21:21 (6,105 days old) by awooff (Peoria, Illinois)        

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I 2ND that

"Don't forget that your drain hose may have to loop "UP" as high as it can go to prevent siphoning."

It is amazing how many professional forget to do this, and then people wonder why their DW dosent wash well......lol


Post# 227022 , Reply# 4   8/2/2007 at 12:14 (6,105 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Thanks for the tips and reminders!

Post# 227139 , Reply# 5   8/2/2007 at 19:39 (6,104 days old) by buffster ()        
Congrats Gary...

Looking forward to seeing pics of your new toy... er... dishwasher. Plans for the Maytag? Is your kitchen big enough to handle two of them?

M.


Post# 227364 , Reply# 6   8/3/2007 at 17:57 (6,103 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Nope no way is the kitchen big enough so the Maytag has got to go.

Gary


Post# 228474 , Reply# 7   8/7/2007 at 23:31 (6,099 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        
Picked up and installed

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Well I picked up the new KitchenAid today and installed it tonight. Took me about 3 hours and a lot of cursing trying to get into the tight places LOL but it is done and it is working. The first load is being washed right now. Certainly is a lot quieter than the Maytag.

Gary


Post# 228567 , Reply# 8   8/8/2007 at 09:50 (6,099 days old) by tlee618 ()        

Gary I am really looking forward to hearning how you feel the machine does. Thanks for sharing.

Post# 228756 , Reply# 9   8/8/2007 at 19:47 (6,098 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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So far I am impressed with the dishwasher although I haven't done a full load or one with dishes having baked on food. Here's some pics.

Gary


Post# 228757 , Reply# 10   8/8/2007 at 19:48 (6,098 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Control panel

Post# 228758 , Reply# 11   8/8/2007 at 19:48 (6,098 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Close-up control panel #1

Post# 228760 , Reply# 12   8/8/2007 at 19:49 (6,098 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Close-up control panel #2

Post# 228761 , Reply# 13   8/8/2007 at 19:50 (6,098 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Close-up control panel #3

Post# 228762 , Reply# 14   8/8/2007 at 19:51 (6,098 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Interior

Post# 228763 , Reply# 15   8/8/2007 at 19:52 (6,098 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Lower wash arm and pro-scrub jets

Post# 228765 , Reply# 16   8/8/2007 at 19:52 (6,098 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Lower rack

Post# 228766 , Reply# 17   8/8/2007 at 19:53 (6,098 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Upper rack

Post# 228784 , Reply# 18   8/8/2007 at 20:34 (6,098 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)        

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well.....it LOOKS very nice, I must say.

I always get a kick out of KA's cool cutlery holder.
Yet on all their knife sets they say
DO NOT PUT IN DISHWASHER.


Post# 228843 , Reply# 19   8/8/2007 at 22:49 (6,098 days old) by tlee618 ()        

Gary thanks for the neat pictures, keep us posted on results.

Post# 228875 , Reply# 20   8/8/2007 at 23:47 (6,098 days old) by brent-aucoin ()        

Very nice dishwasher!
If you are not used to the vintage Kitchenaid dishwahers, this will wash just fine for you. The older Hobart design used much more water, at much a larger force.
It is just that this model will take longer, with different heating modes, and with less water.
You will be suprised how it cleans!
Everyone that I know that has this model, and same pump design is very happy with the cleaning ability!
Do keep us posted! I am sure that you will put it through the test!
Thanks for your photo's!
Brent


Post# 229089 , Reply# 21   8/9/2007 at 18:41 (6,097 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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~Everyone that I know that has this model, and same pump design is very happy with the cleaning ability!


Has the tall-tub been improved?


Post# 229129 , Reply# 22   8/9/2007 at 21:06 (6,097 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Ys Steve I do believe improvements have been made since your purchase, what 4 years ago?

Post# 229184 , Reply# 23   8/9/2007 at 22:56 (6,097 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Thank GAWD!

There are so few new DW-ers that are of any appeal to me.
I'm difficult when it comes to good racking and overall features.

Countryguy's machine looks really nice!


Post# 229291 , Reply# 24   8/10/2007 at 10:37 (6,097 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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So far I am very impressed with the Kitchen Aid. I really do like the loading flexibility with both dishwasher racks. The top rack goes up/down 2 inches. In the lower position there is 11" in both the upper and lower, in the upper position there is 13" in the lower and 9" in the upper rack. Being on vacation I haven't done much cooking this week so haven't had a chance to try out the proscrub yet.

Gary


Post# 229388 , Reply# 25   8/10/2007 at 18:04 (6,096 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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The instruction book doesn't give the times for each part of the cycle but here are the stages for each cycle and the total time for each cycle
Heavy Duty - pre-wash, main wash, rinse, final heated rinse, dry - minimum time 95 min.
Normal - pre-wash, main wash, pre-rinse, final heated rinse, dry - minimum time 77 min.
Light - rinse, main wash, pre-rinse, final heated rinse, dry, minimum time 72 min.

I'll have to time the dry cycle next time.

Gary


Post# 229396 , Reply# 26   8/10/2007 at 18:47 (6,096 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Robert, my Kenmore Elite TT dry cycle is 34 or 36 minutes. I'll time it tonight when I run it.

Post# 229403 , Reply# 27   8/10/2007 at 19:18 (6,096 days old) by buffster ()        
Congratulations on your new purchase

Gary,

Congratulations on your new purchase and I applaud you for installing it yourself. (I'm not very mechanically inclined.) Great pictures. Keep us posted on its performance.

Mike


Post# 229428 , Reply# 28   8/10/2007 at 19:55 (6,096 days old) by re563 (Fort Worth, Texas)        

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thanks guys for your response. Yes, countryguy I had seen those cycle times in the sears store today. The reason for me asking was, when I looked at the Kenmore equilivent, it said that the cycle time was 110 mins. So........... my mind went to work. trying to figure out how much time it spent on each cycle. prewash, main, purge, rinse. And, thinking that if I have the same machine, probably, i would do hi temp wash, sani rinse, (and that probably adding a rinse) how that would stack up to my bosch. Which runs 108 mins. that's all--just that--so i have no other thoughts than that--also questioning--did i make the right choice in the $1000 catorgory. Appunt. you truely are a gem and I love you thank you too for your imput--inrestred in both you're imputs.



Post# 229438 , Reply# 29   8/10/2007 at 20:08 (6,096 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Robert, I've sat in front of my Kenmore Elite with stop watch for every load since I got it in May. The longest wsh with Smart Wash, 140 or 145 degrees main wash, sani-rinse and heated dry was 148 minutes. the same scenario using normal Wash cycle was 166 minutes, which includes a full 2nd rine insted of a purge. Aww shucks, blush, thanks Robert. You made my day!!!

Post# 229521 , Reply# 30   8/10/2007 at 23:28 (6,096 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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30 minute dry

Post# 229574 , Reply# 31   8/11/2007 at 08:04 (6,096 days old) by re563 (Fort Worth, Texas)        

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appnut:

OMG!!!!!!!!! 2HRS AND 46 MINS!!!!!!!!! just for a normal wash--man that's long


Post# 229588 , Reply# 32   8/11/2007 at 09:29 (6,096 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Well, since it gets run in the evening, doesn't bother me. And I'm pleased with the results. Gentle hug to ya!!

Post# 229595 , Reply# 33   8/11/2007 at 09:33 (6,096 days old) by re563 (Fort Worth, Texas)        

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Big hug to you too

Just thought for some reason that It would be around what my bosch takes. That just kinda caught me off guard


Post# 229602 , Reply# 34   8/11/2007 at 10:10 (6,096 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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I'll take 'em any time. I thought the Bosch would be almost as long too, surprised.

Post# 229603 , Reply# 35   8/11/2007 at 10:12 (6,096 days old) by re563 (Fort Worth, Texas)        

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Guess i should have asked what your hot water heater is set at

Post# 229604 , Reply# 36   8/11/2007 at 10:21 (6,096 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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120-125

Post# 231583 , Reply# 37   8/19/2007 at 17:37 (6,087 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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RE563,
I finally got a chance to time the dry cycle and yes it is still 30 min.

Gary


Post# 231708 , Reply# 38   8/20/2007 at 08:20 (6,087 days old) by re563 (Fort Worth, Texas)        

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So Countryguy, you know I have to ask, is your cycle as long as apputs (bobs)?

Post# 231760 , Reply# 39   8/20/2007 at 12:22 (6,087 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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I haven't run the Heavy Duty Cycle yet, just the light and normal cycles. The normal cycle, without using high temp. scrub runs at about 77 minutes, just as the instruction booklet said...and the dishes have come out clean with no deposits remaining on them. Note also, that I never pre-rinse either and sometimes the dishes will sit for a day or two before I run a full load.

Gary


Post# 231912 , Reply# 40   8/21/2007 at 07:16 (6,086 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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RE563,

Last night I ran the heavy duty cycle, pro-scrub turned on, high temp. scrub on, heated dry. The full cycle took 110 min. whereas the min. time specified in the manual is 95 min. Everything came out spotless included the roast pan which was from the evening before.

Gary


Post# 231918 , Reply# 41   8/21/2007 at 08:12 (6,086 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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I guess my cycles are much longer befcause my water heater is set at 120 at the highest. It ran on normal wash with 140 degree wash temp and heated dry. Total cycle was 116 minutes, including 32 minutes for dry.


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