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Thread Number: 13088
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Post# 227198 8/2/2007 at 22:31 (6,104 days old) by unimatic1140  (Minneapolis) |
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For two years I've been wanting to install a fabric softener dispenser in my Super Unimatic and I finally did it this week. The dispenser itself (in the lower left hand corner) is from an Asko washer, it overflows into a rubbermaid container that I cut to fit and then a flume sends the softener directly into the wash tub. I'm going to paint around the whole opening with POR-15 rust sealing paint, but first I want to let a bit of rust build around the opening so the paint will stick to it.
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Post# 227199 , Reply# 1 8/2/2007 at 22:32 (6,104 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Post# 227200 , Reply# 2 8/2/2007 at 22:33 (6,104 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Post# 227201 , Reply# 3 8/2/2007 at 22:34 (6,104 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Post# 227202 , Reply# 4 8/2/2007 at 22:36 (6,104 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Post# 227203 , Reply# 5 8/2/2007 at 22:37 (6,104 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Post# 227204 , Reply# 6 8/2/2007 at 22:38 (6,104 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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| Post# 227206 , Reply# 7 8/2/2007 at 22:45 (6,104 days old) by ~sudsshane () | ||
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Oh no Robert! We need to get you some Final Touch! Have you ever tried the new formula? Of course it is not like the original, but it has a wonderful,light fresh scent. Is it available in Minneapolis? | ||
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Post# 227207 , Reply# 8 8/2/2007 at 22:47 (6,104 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Your OTHER left, dear.  | ||
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Post# 227210 , Reply# 9 8/2/2007 at 22:50 (6,104 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Have you ever tried the new formula? Hi Shane, yes I have used it, although I do like the Downy Free better. Your OTHER left, dear. Whoops, Neal is going to laugh if he sees that, because I'm constantly being yelled at in the car for getting my lefts and rights mixed up. I just can't seem to ever get them right 'er correct. | ||
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Post# 227213 , Reply# 10 8/2/2007 at 22:53 (6,104 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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| Post# 227214 , Reply# 11 8/2/2007 at 22:53 (6,104 days old) by brettsomers () | ||
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very well done! i imagine having the softener dispense into the outer tub is another option? what made you decide to dispense into the wash tub? thanks for sharing. | ||
| Post# 227215 , Reply# 12 8/2/2007 at 22:54 (6,104 days old) by ~sudsshane () | ||
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Downy Free.. What do you like about it? I haven't used it yet. I think they changed the formula of the "April Fresh" scent. I didn't care for the new scent much. | ||
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Post# 227218 , Reply# 13 8/2/2007 at 22:59 (6,104 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Do you prefer to rinse out your softener, or does it indeed go onto the final rinse? Actually that is a good question Steve because I haven't decided yet. To start it does go into the final rinse, but it is an overflow rinse so some of it does rinse away. I haven't decided if I'm going to program the softener to go in during the rinse fill or do a two minute overflow rinse, then stop the overflow and add the softener and agitate for another minute. I'm going to try both and see which way I like better. That's the wonder of a computer interface, there are just so many possibilities to try! The hand that forms an "L" when you extend your thumb and pointer is the LEFT. :-) When I need to quickly get into the left lane and turn left in a split second I wont remember that LOL. | ||
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Post# 227219 , Reply# 14 8/2/2007 at 22:59 (6,104 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Post# 227220 , Reply# 15 8/2/2007 at 23:04 (6,104 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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i imagine having the softener dispense into the outer tub is another option? what made you decide to dispense into the wash tub? Hi David, because I don't want any recirculation during the rinse since there are left over suds in the outer tub from the wash cycle. Those left over suds will get flushed down the drain during the final spin. I found it works really well to completely segregate the wash water from the rinse water as this makes for really clear, clean rinses. | ||
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Post# 227225 , Reply# 17 8/2/2007 at 23:22 (6,104 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Very nice addition - love the Rubbermaid container - did you cut that down to fit or were you able to find the right size? I must confess, I had imagined a robotic arm that extends out from the back of the console and drops the Downy Ball into the tub just before the spin after the wash...but this will do as well ;-) | ||
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Post# 227237 , Reply# 18 8/3/2007 at 00:03 (6,104 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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| Post# 227252 , Reply# 19 8/3/2007 at 01:48 (6,104 days old) by bpetersxx (laf in on the banks of the Wabash River) | ||
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Post# 227283 , Reply# 21 8/3/2007 at 07:11 (6,104 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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love the Rubbermaid container - did you cut that down to fit or were you able to find the right size? Hi Greg, no I had to measure and cut it. The container was so strong that I needed to use an electric jigsaw to cut it. I will be curious to see if the Downey leaves a residue over time in the dispenser It's flushed really well with fresh incoming water so I tend to doubt it, but time will tell. If I find that residue is being built up and I need to clean it often I will start flushing it with warm or hot water. Robert, what is that rod-like grey thing in the lower left (the hand your're writing with) corner of the picture in post no. 227204? That is the side of the lid just pushed over, it's just a temporary lid and is not connected by hinges. do you use a special method for drilling holes in vitreous enamel? Theo yes I use a lot of heavy plastic tape on both sids of the porcelain object I am cutting, this helps to prevent chipping. What's next? The next thing I would like to do is resdesign the detergent dispenser so it is on the inside of the machine. Because of the tight clearance between the top and the wash tub it is going to be a challenge, but I have some ideas to try. | ||
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Post# 227297 , Reply# 22 8/3/2007 at 08:37 (6,104 days old) by rinso (Meridian Idaho) |
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Robert, you are a genius! It's a shame that some appliance manufacturer doesn't hire you as an development engineer. Then appliances would actually once again be designed for results. | ||
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Post# 227298 , Reply# 23 8/3/2007 at 09:05 (6,104 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Wow SuperUnimatic Indeed
Nice on Robert, love where its positioned, I stupidly thought it was going to be a bolt on to the side Asko Drawer with pipes into the machine...LOl...no holds on you with this stuff...I would extend it or stick a FFF (Filter-Flow Flute) on it... Cheers, Mike p.s. Do I need to be worried about your signals??, will I be you RH signal or am I riding shotgun with the Super-Unimatic in the back??...LOL | ||
| Post# 227308 , Reply# 24 8/3/2007 at 09:43 (6,104 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA) | ||
It looks to me like you need to do some more programming changes. You need a boolean for regular rinse or softener rinse. The regular rinse does what it does today. The softener rinse does a slightly extended overflow fill time in the beginning, then a minute to allow all extra water to overflow, then trigger the softener dispenser water solenoid only for a minute or however long it takes to completely flush out, then a minute or two agitation to get the softener really into the fibers, then the final drain and spin sequence with no more spray rinses. Are you looking at putting the detergent dispenser into the console with a nifty chute like on the late model Rollermatics? | ||
| Post# 227313 , Reply# 25 8/3/2007 at 09:52 (6,104 days old) by irishwashguy (Salem,Oregon.............A Capital City) | ||
Neat deal!  | ||
| Post# 227320 , Reply# 26 8/3/2007 at 10:39 (6,104 days old) by tlee618 () | ||
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Fantastic Robert, No more "harsh" clothes. YAY for Rubbermaid!! | ||
| Post# 227350 , Reply# 28 8/3/2007 at 16:30 (6,103 days old) by bundtboy () | ||
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strobe light How about a variable speed strobe light inside the cabinet which could be used to create the effect that the spinning basket is standing still, or moving slowly, or in reverse even~ Holla from Hollywood. b | ||
| Post# 227367 , Reply# 30 8/3/2007 at 18:08 (6,103 days old) by golittlesport (California) | ||
softener cycle | ||
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Post# 227446 , Reply# 31 8/3/2007 at 22:55 (6,103 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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The regular rinse does what it does today. The softener rinse does a slightly extended overflow fill time in the beginning, then a minute to allow all extra water to overflow, then trigger the softener dispenser water solenoid only for a minute or however long it takes to completely flush out, then a minute or two agitation to get the softener really into the fibers, then the final drain and spin sequence with no more spray rinses. I was thinking along those lines as well Peter, but with two quick spray rinses to get rid of any softener residue, no need to over do the softness LOL. or any tub lights at all that come on during the cycle? Those are on the someday in the future list Bob. In dispensers without a fresh water rinse one needs to dilute big time in order to avoid gunk build up. Yes I hate dispensers that don't flush themselves clean. Four gallons will pass through my rinse dispenser before it shuts off. This picture below illustrates why I have the dispenser add the softener directly to the wash tub and not into the outer cabinet and then pump it up. The washer is filling for the rinse and I don't want any of those suds to come back in contact with the clothes from the wash. The outer cabinet is water free now, it just has residual suds left over. That is one of the wonderful features of a solid tub washer, complete segregation between the wash and rinse waters. 
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| Post# 227459 , Reply# 32 8/4/2007 at 00:00 (6,103 days old) by rickr (.) | ||
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| Post# 227562 , Reply# 33 8/4/2007 at 11:03 (6,103 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
rinse water purists
empathize thoroughly with the desire for rinse water purity. When using the GE, I stand at the ready during the rinse fill with an oblong Tupperware to catch the the left over soapy water as it gushes in when the filter-flo fires. I really can't stand seeing those suds jump the rinse water. Robert, isn't this the second time you've used an Asko limb donor? They must be very happy at Asko seeing the Most Famous Frigidarian grafting thier organs. So cool and funny, but the biggest howl for the morning comes from Gansky's robotic arm dropping down the New Year Ball. | ||
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Post# 227735 , Reply# 34 8/4/2007 at 21:31 (6,102 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Robert, isn't this the second time you've used an Asko limb donor? Hi Mike, yes the soap dispenser hanging off of the right (I hope that's correct LOL) side of the machine is from an Asko. I want to get rid of that and redesign the soap dispenser to be on the inside of the washer. I'm going to try and figure out a way to pour the soap in the red area of this picture. I'm not convinced that it can be put here, but that's my goal. 
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| Post# 227743 , Reply# 35 8/4/2007 at 22:04 (6,102 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Good, much better! Somehow the contraption on the side just
and I admit to some weird prejudice of unklnown origin against Asko as if they're chintzy or cheap, but they could very well be wonderful machines--I just don't know. After 30 years without a Frigidaire, I forgot how amazingly fresh the clothes smell after so much rinsing. This Baby from Greg overflows for three minutes after the wash and FOUR FULL minutes of overflow rinsing . That's a ton. A fill takes 3 minutes, so the rinse cycle replaces all of the water in the tub plus one-third. As I hung the first load with the clothes brushing my face, I had the Ultra-Clean and Fresh Frigidaire flashback smell. It was amazing and it made me so happy, a long lost friend come back. In all of your pics and flicks I've enjoyed since joining the club a year and a half ago, I always loved how you added one perfect cup of soap and nothing else, NO ADDITIVES NECESSARY, THANK YOU !, and I can't ever remember you using softener. When and why did you start using it? I do not, except in rare situations, on the weenee sheet, for example. ;D ;D ;D Laughing !!!! It's Saturday Night...........YAY for Saturday!!!!!!!! | ||
| Post# 227747 , Reply# 36 8/4/2007 at 22:13 (6,102 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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PS: A fellow direction defective and a lefty, I gave up on t | ||
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Post# 227750 , Reply# 37 8/4/2007 at 22:20 (6,102 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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| Post# 227753 , Reply# 38 8/4/2007 at 22:32 (6,102 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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JUst pulled 'er out for ya | ||
| Post# 227754 , Reply# 39 8/4/2007 at 22:38 (6,102 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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I think i counted wrong because of the pause after the wash | ||
| Post# 227757 , Reply# 40 8/4/2007 at 22:50 (6,102 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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I just timed the fill and it's exactly four minutes; | ||
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Post# 227758 , Reply# 41 8/4/2007 at 22:51 (6,102 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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| Post# 227761 , Reply# 42 8/4/2007 at 22:55 (6,102 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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God I'm drooling to see this and can't wait to read | ||
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Post# 227762 , Reply# 43 8/4/2007 at 22:57 (6,102 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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1440rpm | ||
| Post# 227767 , Reply# 44 8/4/2007 at 23:07 (6,102 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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The table tells all
I was always timing the fill during the rinse which IS only three minutes. The jumper starts earlier during the rinse. Why did they increase the rinse time and what was it formerly. Good Luck on finding me a UNI. Pennsylvania has them all claimed forever. Thank youSOOOOOOO MUUUUUUUch, but this is a really really wonderful machine. 2&1/2 weeks and I STILL haven't used anything else. How long will this love affair last? | ||
| Post# 227905 , Reply# 45 8/5/2007 at 20:09 (6,101 days old) by brent-aucoin () | ||
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Robert! I just love your Super Unimatic! Mawahaha!!!! I bet it is so much FUN!!!! Thanks for sharing! Brent | ||
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Post# 227917 , Reply# 46 8/5/2007 at 21:05 (6,101 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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I love the danger involved with the fill flume | ||
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Post# 227928 , Reply# 47 8/5/2007 at 21:59 (6,101 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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it hangs juuuussst over the rim and maybe it will add softener and maybe it won't! If too many clothes pile up on one side of the tub it might miss! Since that picture was taken I extended the tube a bit to make sure the stream hits the pulsator. To many clothes piled up on one side? This is a top loader dear, oh the effects of being paralized by an all Front Loader collection sure is showing Mister! Hmmmph, take that. :) | ||
| Post# 227933 , Reply# 48 8/5/2007 at 22:10 (6,101 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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You two are too funny
It's great how Robert lets Jon get away with murder. Too many clothes piled up by the only man whose Frigidaires never go off balance. What nerve to make such a charge. Jon, if you get another Bendix and decide to throw out the Blackstone, please let me know and I'll fly in and fetch it with a truck. What a wonderful friendship you guys share! | ||
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Post# 228002 , Reply# 49 8/6/2007 at 04:09 (6,101 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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The Comedy Duo Uni & Jet...!!!
Ohh Robert, what you need on your SuperUnimatic Display is a mini screen that can show the Amps & Electricity usage as well as progs etc.. Just found this clip of the comedy duo Uni & Jet I made the 2005 Convention, filmed at Roberts before we headed down to Omaha Gregs,the Duo are explaining to Eddy, Louis & me how the Unimatics draw amperage when in Spin Start Mode... CLICK HERE TO GO TO chestermikeuk's LINK 
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