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Post# 235390   9/7/2007 at 11:36 (6,072 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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I picked up an Equator combo washer/dryer the other day. Say's it's made in Italy. Anyone know anything about them? Pics to follow.

kennyGF





Post# 235394 , Reply# 1   9/7/2007 at 12:14 (6,072 days old) by bellalaundry (St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada)        
I had one!

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This was my primary washer and dryer for 4 years. I bought it because I had no venting in the house I was in and I was led to belive it was the direct descendant of the Eaton's Viking FL(also branded Kelvinator). I think it was made by Philco Italia? Anyways...I had the stacking washer and dryer for 23 years without one trouble.

I was satisfied with the washing capability, of course the drying left much to be desired (110v, and all). The pump went twice in the 4 years.

Guy



Post# 235425 , Reply# 2   9/7/2007 at 15:26 (6,072 days old) by cuffs054 (MONTICELLO, GA)        

I too had pump problems with mine. In my deligence to keep it clean and serviced, I regularly pulled the blower out to clean. The last time I did it, it seems I didn't tighten the bolts all the way. It was amazing how much noise, smoke and sparks that litte fan could make!

Post# 235468 , Reply# 3   9/7/2007 at 21:44 (6,072 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        
Equator corp.

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It's funny that you brought this up but as of monday09/04/2007,I will be at my new desk in Houston,Tx.doing my work with the Equator Corp.I just got home this evening after spending all day in Orlando with Mr.Atul Vir,The owner and CEO of equator Appliances!! i will be traveling to two of the factories.One in China the other in India.

Due to the takeover of Philco of Italy and the buyer closing that plant and changing the entire washer dryer design it cause a worldwide problem with the machines and they'd catch on fire.atul sued that company and won but is trying to get back the reputation almost destroyed by the manufacturer's flaws.

Every customer who had a problem has been taken care of now and the goal now is for us to regain the popularity lost by someone else's lack of engineering.I will be traveling worldwide as well as nationwide to right any wrongs with dealerships who have decided to drop our brand.the new models have been tested over and over and are pretty much up to par.

If all goes as well as planned,we will be introducing a new washer dryer combo that runs on 220 volts,loads from the top and has a see through windo.It's called the Cobra.There is another machine in the near future that will be 40 inches wide and have a top loading/tumbler washer as well as a top loading /tumbler dryer.It too will be known as the cobra.


Post# 235482 , Reply# 4   9/8/2007 at 05:35 (6,071 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
Philco Italy...

Here Philco was in 60s a very popular brand of WM, then for years it has been seemed to me it were disappeared...none WM or Dryer left with that brand...

I remeber they were WM with a cute chromated circular windowed lid (obḷ), and the control panel was on the top on the back edge.

Now maybe this brand is own by Merloni...here you are the story.




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Post# 235483 , Reply# 5   9/8/2007 at 05:37 (6,071 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
Chuck maybe you're referring to this?!

It came out in April 2006, it was said that this will have been the first TLHA WD Combo sold in USA... A greatful invention IMHO, but where is it?!

Diomede


Post# 235503 , Reply# 6   9/8/2007 at 08:46 (6,071 days old) by bellalaundry (St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada)        
Hmmmm....

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A TLHA with a window, I might have to have a look at that. Great name too, Cobra! I hope that it not only does it have a 220v dryer, but also 220v water heater boost?

I would think it would have some interest if the quality is there.

Guy


Post# 235520 , Reply# 7   9/8/2007 at 11:46 (6,071 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        
Equator Cobra

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What happened is the money needed to finance the introduction of this to the market was lost from a major problem caused by the buyer of Philco of Italy.Philco of italy was the source of manufacturing the Equator.The new owners of POI decided to shut down the factory and use one of their own to make the Equator.They also made Summit and Haire.

the major problem that caused numerous flaws including fires,was the diodes in the control board were made for 50 cycles not 60.So after running for a while on 120 volts a/c,they'd overheat and catch fire.The manufacturer and owners of POI were taken to court and sued by Equator for a large unknown amount which was settled out of court.Now the problem is getting back the business.Eq.lost no money in pocket but did get dropped by sellers who had to deal with the angry customers.Once that gets cleared up and the 70%loss of business regarding the combinaton washer dryers returns,the Cora's will be able to get the financing needed to begin manufacturing them.Next monday,I will be going to the main headquarters in Houston,Texas and see the prototypes hooked up and running.Atul told me to be sure I bring some of my dirty laundry along.

There will be two models.one is the combination illustrated the other looks similar but has two seperate tubs and measures 40" across.One tub is for washing,rinsing and spinning.The other one is for drying and fluffing.It saves space because two seperate pieces measure 54 to 58 inches across and sometimes need adjustments depending om how close the dryer is to an entrance or which way the dryer door opens.Loading from the top using hydrolic hinges,the doors open slow and freely.


Post# 235532 , Reply# 8   9/8/2007 at 13:24 (6,071 days old) by funguy10 ()        

So when will they actually be realeased then?

Post# 235539 , Reply# 9   9/8/2007 at 15:04 (6,071 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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I will know more once I begin my work on regaining carrier loyalty.

Post# 235542 , Reply# 10   9/8/2007 at 15:19 (6,071 days old) by funguy10 ()        

Oh but what does that mean? And I think you mean Haier, not Haire.

Post# 235575 , Reply# 11   9/8/2007 at 22:04 (6,071 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Wow Cuck--never imagined you leaving Home Depot.

Post# 235584 , Reply# 12   9/8/2007 at 23:02 (6,071 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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Are there any pictures of the 40 inch wide unit? I think it's a fascinating idea! I'll definetly have to save up for one of these!!!

Post# 235591 , Reply# 13   9/9/2007 at 05:07 (6,070 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Nice!

Post# 235593 , Reply# 14   9/9/2007 at 05:49 (6,070 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
Windowed lid...

As you probably know here in Europe are rather common the TLHA... I mean... here every WM are HA...Front loading and Top loading either!

The windowed lid on a TLHA I know there was on the Vedette, a French brand...during the 60-70s... something like the 1947's Launderall you've had there.

Here you are a sample pic of what means to have the glass on a TLHA... yes, you see the sudsy drum rotating but no clothes splashing to see...at least you hear them :-)



Post# 235594 , Reply# 15   9/9/2007 at 05:51 (6,070 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
Though not the Equator Cobra/Hybrid...

will have got the windowes...it doesn't seem to me so looking at the pic above... and neither looking at the techicla drawing...



Post# 235595 , Reply# 16   9/9/2007 at 06:10 (6,070 days old) by funguy10 ()        

If only Fisher & Paykel would start to to that on thier machines they could do that to thier Top-Loading dryers.

Post# 235597 , Reply# 17   9/9/2007 at 06:18 (6,070 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Am wondering if there is a difference in possible final extraction spin speeds between the larger more oblong top loading H-Axis washers versus the more traditional ones that basically resemble 5kg of so front loader with the drum either mounted sideways or front to back.

Commercial laundries have had units similar to the one pictured in the diagram for ages, though IIRC they are often huge and do not spin very fast if at all, hence the reason for those Bock extractors.

Still it would be interesting to see something like the above in the American market. Have used top loading H-Axis washers in France, and they are a treat. The smaller units are so wonderful as they fit in the most tiny of spaces.

Regarding Philco of Italy.

They made Malber units as well, but like other Italian brands from that manufacturer things went down hill when the brand sold off/merged. IIRC posted a link to a story last year about Equator suing the makers of their new washing machines over the problems. Shame really because the older Equator units, like the Malbers were decent machines with a loyal following. The new units caused dealers so much problems because people bought them based upon glowing recommendations of the older units.

L.


Post# 235601 , Reply# 18   9/9/2007 at 06:32 (6,070 days old) by funguy10 ()        

They do have somthing like that in the U.S.A. It is a brand called Staber but it is el-cheapo just like the company. The machines themselves have only cheap mechanical controls! Also, the company cannot provide customer service apparently because if the machine breaks down and you call them to order repair, they will tell you that YOU are your own repair man! On the other hand though, the machine cleans very well. If you look at the testimonials section at www.staber.com... you can see high reviews. Also, the machine spins at 710 RPM max speed and the final spin is 5 minutes long. People on the testimonials page have reported clothes drying on the line in 3 hours! They do have a "matching" dryer but I will show you otherwise. Included is a link to the testimonials page and a picture of a Staber washing machine. Obviously, it has no glass lid.

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Post# 235602 , Reply# 19   9/9/2007 at 06:40 (6,070 days old) by funguy10 ()        

Here is the "matching" dryer. The site claims that "both washer and dryer exhibit matching control panel profiles, decals and knobs." and that is about it. Also note how the site says "Only Horizontal-Axis Top-Loading washer in the U.S.A." This will soon be false because the Cobra machines ARE INDEED COMING TO THE U.S.!


Post# 235607 , Reply# 20   9/9/2007 at 07:37 (6,070 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        
Gee, I started this thread....

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...guess I should follow through! This is the Equator I picked up a few weeks ago.

kennyGF


Post# 235608 , Reply# 21   9/9/2007 at 07:39 (6,070 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        
inside shot

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Looks to be a decent machine. I know it's HEAVY!

kennyGF


Post# 235609 , Reply# 22   9/9/2007 at 07:44 (6,070 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        
console shot

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Missing a couple of buttons, my very knowledgable parts guy has never heard of this brand. BTW, gang, this is not a washer/dryer, it is a CLOTHES PROCESSOR! Says so right on the front!

Post# 235610 , Reply# 23   9/9/2007 at 07:48 (6,070 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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Hey kenny,
That's definitely a Philco of Italy model4 pound dry load capacity,built in heater 1,000 R.P.M spin,and portable conversion capability.It looks like it's missing some pushbuttons.I now have complete access to parts for the Equator.


Post# 235612 , Reply# 24   9/9/2007 at 08:06 (6,070 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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Chuck, I'm going to try this one out today, and see what it does. Good to have a parts source!

kennyGF


Post# 235614 , Reply# 25   9/9/2007 at 08:21 (6,070 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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Kenny,The best way to get best results is to load it 2/3 full. and be sure you use an HE lo sudsing detergent.I use Wisk HE or Publix HE(nade by Wisk)

Post# 235615 , Reply# 26   9/9/2007 at 08:25 (6,070 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        
Equator's previous manufacturer

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In my previous nessage,I forgot to tell you that Ariston was the company that took over Philco of Italy.They are now(finaly)defunked.Atol knows the two brothers one of which owns Asko!

Post# 235618 , Reply# 27   9/9/2007 at 08:31 (6,070 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Equator

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My Equator was almost exactly like the above one. I am so sorry I had got rid of it for that disaster LG. Now I have nothing and I just don't know what to purchase. I may be better off with just a front load washer.
Peter


Post# 235625 , Reply# 28   9/9/2007 at 09:46 (6,070 days old) by thor (Buenos Aires)        

Kenny, as far as I know, these type of washer-dryers have a certain capacity for the wash cycle (probably 5 kg) and half of that capacity for the dry cycle (2.5 kg). So, if you want to do a wash cycle automatically followed by the drying cycle, you just can load 2.5 kg of clothes, and it will take almost 4 hours to complete. But if you can cope with that maybe you'll be much better off to become a follower of the Dalai Lama, LOL!

Emilio





Post# 235681 , Reply# 29   9/9/2007 at 12:57 (6,070 days old) by easyspindry (Winston-Salem, NC)        
Splendide???

I have a combo machine in my camper. The brand name is Splendide, and it is Italian made. It's a great machine. Cleans very well. And spins at something like 1200 or 1400 rpm. It will wash an 8 pound load, but the drying is a different story.

If I wash a large load, I take half of it out before the dryer cycle starts. So the easy thing to do is simply wash a half load and let it go on and dry. Even in that case, I like to take out the clothes between the wash and dry cycles and shake them out. Sometimes the rapid spin causes towels and cottons to stay stuck to the side of the tub.

I wonder if this machine is kin to the Equator or the Cobra or Philco of Italy. Anybody know?

It's a great machine -- five years old with no problems except for the mother board on the electronic controls when it was new. Repaired under warranty.

Jerry Gay


Post# 235718 , Reply# 30   9/9/2007 at 16:16 (6,070 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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I plugged mine in today. The dryer part works, can't even hear it run! Didn't hook it up to water yet.

Post# 235789 , Reply# 31   9/9/2007 at 21:42 (6,070 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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Depending on it's age,the Splendid was originally identical to the Equator EZ1000,However, just like Equator,Aristan began making their machines and using the wrong diodes which in turn,caught on fire.

Post# 235870 , Reply# 32   9/10/2007 at 10:56 (6,069 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

What about the Breeze made by Supra, 220 volt, new models listed on Ebay and distributed someplace in South Carolina? They have a parts and service number. I want to get the parts and service manuals to see what this is all about. They say it is made in Spain and Italy. Hope it is not part of the Equator disaster.

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Post# 235881 , Reply# 33   9/10/2007 at 12:34 (6,069 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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Hey Tom,
I hope all is well up in MD.The model you're showing IS made by the company that Equator just won a settlement with!The sort of triangular control design gives them away.They're identical to the faulty Equator,Haire,Aristen.Summit and Philci



Post# 236621 , Reply# 34   9/14/2007 at 11:47 (6,065 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Chuck, Thank you for the info. If The Breeeze is identical to all of the other brands, why is it the only 220 volt combo? If the lawsuit shut down the company that made all of these other brands, who is making the Supra now? The people selling them say that they are made in Spain and Italy. I do not doubt you, but wonder what the time line for all of this was. If all of this is settled with Equator owners, how long ago were the bad machines discontinued?.

How long was Equator made in Italy? When did it start to be made in China and India? Are the Equator machines the same as the ones from Italy but now with the correct diodes or was the design changed radically when manufacturing was moved from Italy to China and India?

Have a great weekend!
Tom


Post# 236761 , Reply# 35   9/15/2007 at 13:26 (6,064 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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Anyone feel the need for the Equator I picked up? It does what it's supposed to do, and does it very quietly. But it leaks water somewhere near the front. Come and get it this week, or next, and it's yours. After that, it goes to meet it's maker.....

kennyGF


Post# 236908 , Reply# 36   9/16/2007 at 21:18 (6,063 days old) by bundtboy ()        
I have one

I love mine. The parts from it make an excellent halloween costume.

Save parts from yours, Kenny, and you too can be a Clothes Processor for Halloween.

B


Post# 237105 , Reply# 37   9/18/2007 at 08:15 (6,061 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Bob, Does the door open so that one can check to see if the internal dry meter is pointing up indicating that the load is just about ready to be taken....... out?

Post# 237187 , Reply# 38   9/18/2007 at 17:11 (6,061 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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Bob, I'm ummmmmmm....speechless.....

Post# 237315 , Reply# 39   9/19/2007 at 12:38 (6,060 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Kenny, it's what's known as a hot box and that has nothing to do with trains.

Post# 237357 , Reply# 40   9/19/2007 at 16:54 (6,060 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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No doubt.....

Post# 237358 , Reply# 41   9/19/2007 at 17:04 (6,060 days old) by rghanks ()        

New member here, and I just wanted some clarification on the Post# 235881 about the issues with Philco Italia products-I thought the Summit Washing Machine was a Gorenje product (from Slovenia)almost identical to the now-apparently-discontinued Danby. Or did Gorenje use some of these same faulty controls that also ended up in the Equator models? Or is there a relationship between the Gorenje and Philco companies? The reason I ask is that the Summit (& Danby) do not look similar to other European FL such as the Ariston, and the Gorenje products are one of the few 120v that heat to 200F.

Post# 237478 , Reply# 42   9/20/2007 at 09:42 (6,059 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

If that's the 120 volt machine that heated to 200 degrees, did Gorenje manufacture that little pair sold at Home Depot a few years ago. I cannot recall the name, but the washer sounds the same. I have no idea of the reliability of the machines, nor do I even remember when HD stopped selling them. Maybe they stopped selling them when Maytag started marketing the small Samsung stack machines. I can tell you one thing about every small imported dryer we have ever tested. They are noisy compared with the Kenmore/WP 24 inch dryer that went over the portable washer.

Post# 237761 , Reply# 43   9/21/2007 at 20:22 (6,058 days old) by rghanks ()        

I think you are referring to the Danby that HD sold for a seemingly short period of time. The Danby and Summit machines appear to be identical in pictures that I have seen (I have not seen a Summit machine in person), and seem to be the only 120v washers in US that heat water to 200F.

I contacted Summit directly and Steve Ross of Summit Marketing stated that "Yes our SPW1103 series washer and and SPDE1113 dryer are manufactured for us by Gorenje" (I was suprised to receive a response to my question).

My question now is: did Gorenje and Philco share the same electronic parts that made the Philcos have quality issues?


Post# 237866 , Reply# 44   9/22/2007 at 17:01 (6,057 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)        

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Nice costume, Bundtboy.

Are you certain you don't have it on backwards?

;-)



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