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Post# 235728   9/9/2007 at 17:19 (6,063 days old) by funguy10 ()        

My house has never been and never will be a Front-Load washer house. But I do have a lot in intrest in the Duet washer and dryer by Whirlpool. Can anybody here tell me more about these washers and dryers such as how they work, what is inside of one, how they work, etc. I'd also like to see some videosof these machines in action. I also want to know what is up with the different versions like the Duet Sport or the Duet HT. And what the heck does "HT" stand for?




Post# 235808 , Reply# 1   9/9/2007 at 22:19 (6,063 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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There are two seperate motors.One revolves the wash drum at different speeds reversing itself during the tumble modes in duration to the program selected.For example,you load the clothes loosely to the top of the drum,close the door(not slamming it)ad detergent,bleach and fabric softener into the dispenser tray.(It dispenses everything at the correct time in each cycle.There is even a dam to hold liquid detergent for the main wash while dispensing detergent directly in during a pre wash),turn the program selector to the one that is best for the load you're washing.It will automatically set the wash and rinse temperatures,the wash time,dispenser differentials,the tumble times (normal is 12 seconds clockwise,3 seconds soak,12 seconds counter clockwise. delicate is 7 seconds clock wise,8 seconds soak,7 seconds counter clockwise.The hand wash is 2 seconds clockwise,13 seconds soak,then 2 seconds counterclockwise.)the drum spins counter clockwise for each spin speed (600 rpm,800 rpm,1000 rpm and 1200 rpm)these spin speeds too are set automaticly on the seperate cycles.They are however adjustable higher or lower than the preset speed for any cycle but it is fool proof.it is impossible to set 1200 rpm spin for permanent press,delicate or wool fabrics and if you select the sanitary setting you can not change the wash and rinse temperatures.

It has 3 seperate,evenly distributed wash/tumble arms that help keep the clothes from tangling as well as work like a scrub board.This is not only gentler than any agitator but also gets clothes thoroughly washed and rinsed.Instead of using 55 gallons of water for a wash and a rinse,it uses about 20 gallons for a wash and 3 rinses!!!it also uses 1/3 less detergent,bleach and fabric softener.at 1200 rpms(twice the speed of most top loaders)this machine removes so much more water that once the load is in the dryer and a second load is in the washer,the dryer is finished before the next load in the washer.Mine is usually on the final 3 minutes of the final rinse.During the spins it also balances itself so there is less wear and tare on the mechanism.

During the beginning of the wash cycle,if you need to open and ad or remove anything,you can because the use of less water means it's never going to be high enough to not be able to open the door.there is one rinse that fills above the opening but the electronic door lock as well as the program setting will not allow you to open the door at that time.each cycle has 3 different time settings depending on the soil level of the load.

The matching dryer is great too.It has a huge drum that lights up when you open the door and several auto dry settings with 6 different temperatures.It also comes with a no-tumble drying rack for sweaters,tennis shoes,stuffed toys and lengeret.It also has a reverseabel door,see through window,white enamal interior and 3 way venting.

I highly recomend them and am very satisfied with mine that are now 3 years old with no problems whatsoever.


Post# 235810 , Reply# 2   9/9/2007 at 22:27 (6,063 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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HT stands for High Technology.HE stands for High Efficiancy The other great feature on fromt loaders as compared with most top loaders is they have NO transmissions!!No gears to ware out,no oil to leak all over the floor.They have either single belt drive or direct drive mechanisms.I like the direct drive the best.

Post# 238251 , Reply# 3   9/24/2007 at 16:52 (6,048 days old) by funguy10 ()        

Well, Whirlpool has just come out with the "Duet Steam" washer and dryer pair. The washer uses steam to sanitize clothes just like the LG TROMM SteamWasher and the Dryer uses steam to remove wrinkles from clothes.

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Post# 238257 , Reply# 4   9/24/2007 at 17:19 (6,048 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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Although I've only had my big Duet HT pair for 7 months which leaves plenty of time ahead for problems, I haven't had any so far and am just as pleased with the performance of mine as Chuck has been with his for the past 3 years.

Chuck has provided a very good summary of how the Duet washers work. I'd only add that except for the "Sanitary" cycle, you have options to tweak water temps on the other cycles and I believe the same goes for spin speeds--up to a point. I'm still learning which cycles I like best.

Is there anything I'd change? Sure, like yesterday when I was washing a puffy king sized mattress pad. I wanted to use the "Bulky Items" setting but couldn't choose the "Extra High" spin speed, which I consider a must with this mattress pad since it's quite a job to dry, so I used the "Normal/Casual" cycle instead, which is always a safe default. You can also select an extra rinse and there are cycles for just "Rinse/Spin" and "Drain/Spin" as well. I find my concerns that I wouldn't have much say in the way I want my washer to work on a particular cycle were unfounded. The Duet offers just about all of the flexibility I need.

I do find that when running a full load of bath towels (just full, not crammed) when I unload them from the washer I have to do some un-tangling. Still, I would not go back to a top loader after enjoying the ease of use with the Duet and the ability to wash items at home that I used to have to haul down to the laundromat.


Post# 238609 , Reply# 5   9/26/2007 at 14:48 (6,046 days old) by funguy10 ()        

You know Maytag has their own version of the Duet? Is is called the Maytag "Epic". It looks exactly like the duet but has the Maytag brand on it. Then Kenmore has the HE3t, HE4t, and HE5t. Those 3 all have different styling than the duets. What I want to know about those is: What step ups does the HE4t have to the HE3t and the HE5t to the HE4t and what does the "t" stand for?

Post# 238623 , Reply# 6   9/26/2007 at 16:38 (6,046 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
kenmore he5t picture

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hello

here is a picture of the kenmore washer he5t


Post# 238624 , Reply# 7   9/26/2007 at 16:41 (6,046 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
maytag epic washer

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hello again

here is a picture of the maytag epic washer


Post# 238625 , Reply# 8   9/26/2007 at 16:46 (6,046 days old) by funguy10 ()        

See nearly like the duet. But I would like answers to my questions about the Kenmore HEs.

Post# 238626 , Reply# 9   9/26/2007 at 17:21 (6,046 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
sears web site

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hello

wish i could help more but all i know about the kenmore he3t he4t and he5t is that there made by whirlpool and maybe a store salemen might give you the info you want and check the link that i will add and compare the models it might help you.

good luck


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Post# 238632 , Reply# 10   9/26/2007 at 17:57 (6,046 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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I think the HE3 has a smaller drum size, probably the same thing as a Duet Sport. HE4 I believe is the full size Duet and HE5 is probably a HE4 that's been grossly overloaded with standard features the average launderer would never use, something Kenmore is famous for and why you'll find on a lot of the consumer opinion sites, there are way more complaints about troubles with complicated Kenmores than there are with the more down-to-earth Whirlpools.

I have no idea what the "t" means.


Post# 238648 , Reply# 11   9/26/2007 at 18:52 (6,046 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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The He2 is Kenmore's version of the Duet Sport. The He3 and He3T are identical to the He4, He4T, He5, and He5T except for the drum desgin. It has the older paddles that go the entire depth of the inner drum vs. the newer ones that stop halfway along the drum. They managed to squeeze an extra .1 cubic feet by changing the paddles making the drum just slightly larger.

Post# 238657 , Reply# 12   9/26/2007 at 19:06 (6,046 days old) by funguy10 ()        

The Duet Sport is the "Duet Jr." isn't it? It has a normal version which is the sport version of the original Duet and an HT version which is the sport version of the HT. If this is the case, I believe that a sport version of the new Duet Steam set will come out. Also, according to that information, The HE2 is the Kenmore version of the Duet Sport. The HE3 version is the Kenmore version of the full-size Duet and the HE4 has a changed drum design and then the HE5 is a very beefed-up version with a lot of extra features that most don't need. The ones with "t" on them probably indicate beefed-up size. So how about the Kenmore HE with no number on it? What do you all know about that? Is there a sport version of the Epic I don't know of?

Post# 238664 , Reply# 13   9/26/2007 at 19:19 (6,046 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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The models with the 't" means it has the heater in it!!

Post# 238666 , Reply# 14   9/26/2007 at 19:27 (6,046 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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The no numbered Kenmore HE machines are made by Frigidaire.

Post# 238670 , Reply# 15   9/26/2007 at 19:39 (6,046 days old) by funguy10 ()        

Oh. So what does the "t" actually stand for? Also the HE is a Fridgimore or a Kengidaire?

Post# 238672 , Reply# 16   9/26/2007 at 19:43 (6,046 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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I believe thermal. Fridgemore.

Post# 238720 , Reply# 17   9/26/2007 at 23:32 (6,046 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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IIRC, the first released models were the HE3 and HE3t.  Quoted from a Sears press release, 7/15/2001:
What does HE 3t mean?  It’s a new concept in laundry.  "H-E" stands for high-efficiency.  The "3" stands for the three areas of high efficiency:  cleaning, capacity and conservation, and "t" is a symbol for the "thermal booster" -- the integrated water heater.


Post# 238813 , Reply# 18   9/27/2007 at 13:14 (6,045 days old) by irishwashguy (Salem,Oregon.............A Capital City)        
Duet sport

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It is smaller then the other, they are also built in Mexico, as it says right on the label as you open the door. i read everything on everything. These are from South of the border. Olay!

Post# 238830 , Reply# 19   9/27/2007 at 15:06 (6,045 days old) by funguy10 ()        

So DADoeS, if that's what the 3 means, then how about the "2" in HE2, the "4" in HE4t, and the "5"in HE5t?

Post# 238855 , Reply# 20   9/27/2007 at 16:59 (6,045 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Dude, I don't think it's so complicated! I'd imagine the various successive numbers are just to designate newer models for marketing purposes. After Sears got the buzzword out, and "everybody" knew what is an HE3 (which rolls off the tongue nicely), the next improved model is a 4. (I found a reference to HE4 and the word "Colors" as a marketing term). Then the next *bigger* and *better* model after that is the HE5. The HE2 is simply a smaller less deluxe model, maybe it's inferred to have "cleaning" and "conservation" with reduced "capacity."

Post# 238997 , Reply# 21   9/28/2007 at 10:40 (6,044 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        
From user's manual of new steam clean Duet

The machine cleaning cycle lasts an hour and 5 minutes, fills to a higher level and heats water with a special cleaning tablet or chlorine bleach in it. Interesting that they say one cause of mildew and stinky stuff is using non HE detergents which suds higher and leave film and deposits in the boot and other places. They do not mention in the same place that all cold water washing will cause that too.

Funguy, did you know that you can go to most manufacturers' websites to view their models and in many cases download the user's manual which contains step by step operating instructions and what the cycles do.

The Maytag Epic is what used to be the KQA Ensemble which came in a beautiful bronze color. Although it was a more expensive machine, it did not have some of the features that the TOL Kenmore HE3T had because of Sears' exclusive rights to certain features after a product's introduction, like the self-cleaning lint filter which Kenmore introduced on the Lady in 1958.


Post# 239087 , Reply# 22   9/28/2007 at 16:01 (6,044 days old) by funguy10 ()        

I do know about the manual thing. If only the Sears/Kenmore websites had a link to the manual for the Oasis...

Well O.K. If someone does know a link to them, could you provide me with it?


Post# 240896 , Reply# 23   10/7/2007 at 16:23 (6,035 days old) by funguy10 ()        

Well, apparently, the European version of the Duet is called the "Dreamspace". It does not look too different from the Duet. Why is it called the Dreamspace in Europe? Here is a picture of the European version.

Post# 240925 , Reply# 24   10/7/2007 at 19:02 (6,035 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
the diffrance

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hello

one thing that is diffrend bewteen the us and european version is that us the spin speed are letters high, medium low and no spin. the european spin speed are numbers.

tank you

ps: **post a picture of a us version of the duet and you might notice other thigs tha are diffrand.


Post# 240929 , Reply# 25   10/7/2007 at 19:12 (6,035 days old) by funguy10 ()        

OK Here is the USA Duet. I will post pictures of The Sport, Sport ht, ht and steam one I find them.

Post# 240969 , Reply# 26   10/8/2007 at 01:24 (6,035 days old) by dj-gabriele ()        

My das has the first version of the Whirlpool dreamspace (10kg), that's very similar to the one pictured in the photo you posted. It's a very lousy machine, cheaply built, the door is all plastic and has been changed already, plus the noise is almost like a hoovercraft in spinning!! The main difference is that it spins only at 1200 or 1100rpm (can't remember wich one)

Post# 240989 , Reply# 27   10/8/2007 at 07:18 (6,035 days old) by lavamat78800 ()        
Hey Gabriele

It would be interesting to see some pictures of your dadīs laundry!

Here in Germany those Whirlpool Duets oder Dreamspaces arenīt vended.
Really would be interesting to own one.


Post# 241026 , Reply# 28   10/8/2007 at 10:19 (6,034 days old) by askomiele (Belgium Ghent)        

In germany they are sold as BAUKNECHT BIG why they started comming over the ocean. Whirlpool launched them both in the whirlpool dreamspace and the bauknecht BIG. Now only bauknecht sell them for domestic use. Whirlpool only sells them as the professional version. They also sell the 10 kg uk version of the dryer.

Post# 241032 , Reply# 29   10/8/2007 at 10:39 (6,034 days old) by lavamat78800 ()        

Thanks, askomiele!

I forgot to tell about Bauknecht, but I canīt trust in such a bad brand, these machines are dangerous, in a test, 3 machines were standing under power, if you would have touched them you would have get a shock!
In an other Bauknecht-machine the motor broke down on the floor.






Post# 241052 , Reply# 30   10/8/2007 at 13:28 (6,034 days old) by dj-gabriele ()        
Nino:

As soon as I'll get back to my dad's home I'm going to take photos of the machine, now I'm in Bologna and he lives in Racale (that's around 800km...) so I'm sorry but you'll have to wait :)
I think he bought the machine in late 2004.
He only has the washer, the dryer ins't sold here in Italy. The only positive aspect is that the machine is double fill (a rare gem in Italy) and the heater is turned on whenever the temperature drops below the selected level (just as any other European washer).


Post# 241071 , Reply# 31   10/8/2007 at 14:36 (6,034 days old) by funguy10 ()        

OK. Here is the Duet Sport. Is this the HT version or the normal version?

Post# 242058 , Reply# 32   10/12/2007 at 16:15 (6,030 days old) by funguy10 ()        

Here is the Duet HT Washer & Dryer in "White with Blue Meatallic Water-Drop".

Post# 242059 , Reply# 33   10/12/2007 at 16:17 (6,030 days old) by funguy10 ()        

Here is the Duet sport. This is the original version which is Sport to the original Duet.

Post# 242060 , Reply# 34   10/12/2007 at 16:18 (6,030 days old) by funguy10 ()        

Here is the Duet Soport HT. It is the Sport version to the Duet HT.

Post# 242061 , Reply# 35   10/12/2007 at 16:20 (6,030 days old) by funguy10 ()        

Here is the Duet Steam washer in "New Aspen".

Post# 242097 , Reply# 36   10/12/2007 at 20:41 (6,030 days old) by funguy10 ()        

Maytag apparently has a "new" version of the Epic washer. It is known simplay as the "Epic HE". Apparently, what is "New" about it is the Oxi/Prewash option which is probably the same as the Oxi dispenser on the Duet Steam. Here is a picture of the machine.

Post# 242098 , Reply# 37   10/12/2007 at 20:45 (6,030 days old) by funguy10 ()        

Maytag has also come out with thier own version of the Duet HT. It is known as the "EpicZ" I think the "Z" just means the washer is the "Most high-end Front-Loader" Because Z is the highest letter in the alphabet.

Post# 242333 , Reply# 38   10/14/2007 at 09:19 (6,029 days old) by funguy10 ()        

There is also a version of the Duet Steam under the Kenmore brand-name. It is called the HE3t Steam and the HE5t Steam. There is a new "Steam Treat" option on the washer which, I think steams laundry to remove wrinkles and remove odors. The button that activates this lights up the same Cool Blue color as today's electronic devices! It has the same Oxi dispenser as the Duet Steam. Here is a link to the washer on the Kenmore website. Picture not uploaded beause the Sears/Kenmore websies have problems with BASIC PICTURE ENCODING!

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Post# 242506 , Reply# 39   10/15/2007 at 12:47 (6,027 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Z is also the last letter in the alphabet.

Post# 242526 , Reply# 40   10/15/2007 at 15:26 (6,027 days old) by funguy10 ()        

Well Duh!


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