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New Miele washer and dryer |
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Post# 236507 , Reply# 1   9/13/2007 at 19:22 (6,041 days old) by nmaineman36 ()   |   | |
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inside the washer |
Post# 236508 , Reply# 2   9/13/2007 at 19:23 (6,041 days old) by nmaineman36 ()   |   | |
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notice the plastic drum |
Post# 236509 , Reply# 3   9/13/2007 at 19:23 (6,041 days old) by nmaineman36 ()   |   | |
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Miele washer and dryer |
Post# 236510 , Reply# 4   9/13/2007 at 19:24 (6,041 days old) by nmaineman36 ()   |   | |
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love the Honeycomb drum. The drum is 6.36 cu ft |
Post# 236511 , Reply# 5   9/13/2007 at 19:25 (6,041 days old) by nmaineman36 ()   |   | |
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Honeycomb washer drum |
Post# 236514 , Reply# 6   9/13/2007 at 20:11 (6,041 days old) by zipdang (Portland, OR)   |   | |
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Post# 236518 , Reply# 7   9/13/2007 at 20:38 (6,041 days old) by the7 ()   |   | |
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Mieli use "plastic" outer drums in their full-size washers like most other full-size FLs. Seems the drum is hanged by 4 springs and sits on 2 dampers. |
Post# 236532 , Reply# 8   9/13/2007 at 21:41 (6,041 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 236546 , Reply# 9   9/14/2007 at 01:07 (6,041 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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You were smart to take some photos while these were apart. Interesting that the frame looks like stamped sheet metal. But since I don't see any concrete weight blocks, I'm assuming that the counterweights are cast iron. Is this right? Also, interested to know if the dryer can vent downward into the floor... which is how my laundry closet is currently set up. If and when I replace my Neptune 7500 pair, this 4 cu ft Miele would be at the top of my list. |
Post# 236555 , Reply# 11   9/14/2007 at 03:45 (6,041 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Posters over on THS who own the new uber Miele dryers have noted that they are rather "loud". Apparently this is because of increased air flow, which Miele uses to gain energy effficency. One poster mentioned something about a retro fit thing for his dryer vent or something to cut down on what he felt was excessive noise, but cannot remember. |
Post# 236559 , Reply# 12   9/14/2007 at 04:40 (6,041 days old) by askomiele (Belgium Ghent)   |   | |
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oooo pictures or video's in action would be nice. The construction base is the same as the normal miele's but some things are different like the pump who is usually place under the detergent tray etc... |
Post# 236568 , Reply# 13   9/14/2007 at 06:20 (6,040 days old) by hoover3060 ()   |   | |
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Beautiful!...Just Beautiful! Congratulations! Mark |
Post# 236574 , Reply# 14   9/14/2007 at 07:09 (6,040 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 236604 , Reply# 16   9/14/2007 at 09:51 (6,040 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 236714 , Reply# 18   9/15/2007 at 08:39 (6,039 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Took the nearly full boxes of Tide with Bleach and Tide Coldwater to mother's for her or other family members to use. Only use either Persil or a commercial European detergent for colours in my Miele. Both seem to do much better, with less rinsing issues, and by the fourth rinse the water is always clear. The only non-European or "HE" detergent I use is the Caldrea powder for my linens, but it is non-sudsing no so worries there. Americans can build front loaders to rival Miele's, they've been doing so for commercial use for ages now, it is just that the consumer just won't open their wallets |
Post# 236774 , Reply# 20   9/15/2007 at 15:53 (6,039 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Whatever holes are left from spinning in my Miele, or any other front loader has never bothered me, as by the time they are dry everything is fluffy. Question: Does your Miele engage the heater on all was cycles, including "Normal"? One poster over on THS made quite a bit of noise in that her machine didn't and gave Miele so much grief regarding the matter they actually TOOK the machines back. Thanks, L. |
Post# 236783 , Reply# 22   9/15/2007 at 17:12 (6,039 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Post# 236869 , Reply# 24   9/16/2007 at 14:32 (6,038 days old) by bud ()   |   | |
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Howdy, congrats on your scoring of these beautiful machines. I'm thinking of up grading. The question I have is are Meile's as skimpy on the water usage as their American cousins? Thanks |
Post# 236883 , Reply# 27   9/16/2007 at 17:06 (6,038 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)   |   | |
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the speed of which an interim spin is has not that great an effect on rinse ability. I saw with my very own eyes at Mikes, a machine that did gentle slow interim spins yet rinsed far better than I can get with the LG Being re set after I have run a 1200rpm Maximum cotton spin after the wash and high water level rinses. Fast spins after wash and rinse only force muck and detergent back into the fibres and encourage suds lockz. High water levels dont really rinse that much better too. When using Horizon or Persil Performance detergent at school the Hoover Logic 1200 rarely had an exceptionally really clear final rinse. Its about how the water is used. One reason why Zanussi Jetsystems rinse so superbly on low levels. I got the same rinse standard from my Zanussi than the Hoover Logic at school using mega litres of water. I agree though that pet hair is only removable in high water. Nice Miele set. Good to see this brand gaining popularity. Its a good sign for the industy and other brands will hopefully buck ideas up to improve the quality they have lost over the years. :) :) :) Rob
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Post# 236906 , Reply# 31   9/16/2007 at 21:02 (6,038 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Older front loading washing machines, even those made by Miele didn't spin after the wash for two main reasons, IIRC: fear of suds lock and causing creasing in laundry that had been washed at temperatures of >140F. My vintage Miele, like other frontloaders from the 1980's and early 1980's has two rinses after the wash without spins in between. Today of course given water consumption issues for washing machines, most all washers simply spin after the wash to remove more soap/detergent so there is less to dilute out in subsequent rinses. Less detergent/soap to dilute out, means less rinses. Of course this depends upon one using the correct detergent so the machine can do a proper spin after the wash cycle, and not lock up due to excess foam. Commercial frontloaders rarely went thourgh all the palaver of rinses after a wash, even on PP cycle; they simply drain and get on with things. Of course such machines have no pump, and drain into a sewer line, thus have little to fear regarding suds lock. Pet Hair: Depending upon how much of it there is, one finds frontloaders in general do not compare to say top loaders in pet hair removal. My Miele uses quite allot of water for washing and rinsing, still one finds masses of pet hair on the dryer lint screen, or when shaking wet laundry out to go on the line. On and yes, there is lots of hair in the drum, around the boot as well. Usually just run a quick wash cycle with a bit of detergent to flush all the muck of of the machine. L. |
Post# 237012 , Reply# 33   9/17/2007 at 18:19 (6,037 days old) by nmaineman36 ()   |   | |
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dryer |
Post# 237013 , Reply# 34   9/17/2007 at 18:20 (6,037 days old) by nmaineman36 ()   |   | |
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washer |
Post# 237014 , Reply# 35   9/17/2007 at 18:21 (6,037 days old) by nmaineman36 ()   |   | |
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honeycomb drum |
Post# 237015 , Reply# 36   9/17/2007 at 18:23 (6,037 days old) by nmaineman36 ()   |   | |
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here is another shot with the machine apart |
Post# 237018 , Reply# 37   9/17/2007 at 18:59 (6,037 days old) by variflexpghpa (Pittsburgh, PA)   |   | |
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I saw in the background you have a manifold with several circulating pumps. Do you have radiant floor heat in your house? Just curious |
Post# 237023 , Reply# 38   9/17/2007 at 20:05 (6,037 days old) by nmaineman36 ()   |   | |
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dont have radiant floor heat...its forced hot water baseboard heat |
Post# 237028 , Reply# 39   9/17/2007 at 20:35 (6,037 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 237217 , Reply# 41   9/18/2007 at 21:35 (6,036 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 237324 , Reply# 42   9/19/2007 at 13:43 (6,035 days old) by bewitched (Italy)   |   | |
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It seems the design of the drum of the european models is quite different from the one of the machines exported in U.S. Here is the drum equipping my W4466. I wonder where the button to open the door is... |
Post# 237325 , Reply# 43   9/19/2007 at 13:49 (6,035 days old) by bewitched (Italy)   |   | |
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The style is rather similar to our european w 4000 series... Here is my W 4466 |
Post# 238032 , Reply# 48   9/23/2007 at 12:43 (6,031 days old) by nmaineman36 ()   |   | |
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awww thanks David |
Post# 238119 , Reply# 49   9/23/2007 at 20:19 (6,031 days old) by decodriveboy (FL, US)   |   | |
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Looking forward to a video or action shots! |
Post# 242518 , Reply# 53   10/15/2007 at 13:36 (6,009 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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I think your Mieles will keep you happy for a long time. They are aethetically pleasing and it almost seems a pity that the housing isn't clear. When I replaced my last washer, the honeycomb design was new. The saleswoman asked if I had pets and when I said "three cats, one dog" she marched me over to LG and said: largest tub holes in the business...forget the pretty one, go for this. I don't know...truly, the LG does get rid of the cat hair...but whether those little holes are the reason in Miele? On a side note, after running two loads in my dishwasher, I ran, did not walk, back to Miele and got the silverware basket and bottom corb for it. Gave the silverware rack to friends. Things came out clean (those enzymes and phospates here make a difference) but oh - what a pain to load and unload. Only nasty thing I have ever had to say about any Miele. |