Thread Number: 13733
Kitchenaid Superba KDS-17A (Hobart) help |
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Post# 236694 , Reply# 4   9/15/2007 at 00:52 (6,061 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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My sister had the KDS17 series when she moved into her house in the 80's. She kept it until the mid 90's and replaced it with about 4 different dishwashers. In fact today I went with her today and she bought a GE tall tub. Lets see how this one works for her. The KDS17 did not have the energy saver switch, it was the later ones of the 17 series that had the energy switch. It was a excellent machine. The normal wash was about 30 minutes plus about a 22 minute dry. It cleaned very well. She had her hot water set to about 150 at that time. Their is nothing built like those hobart kitchenaids. My mother had a KDS19 for 25 years. That also was a tank. It was the beginning of the water heating series in every cycle. This was the only series that had no heat only dry being the last rinse was always heated to sani temp on all cycles. Most people knocked this dishwasher series but if you used the jetdry the dishes always came out dry. My mother now has a GE tall tub like myself and likes it but says nothing compares to her kitchenaid. She wanted to get a new one and I talked her out of it. She saw my uncles newer kitchenaid when she visited in Florida and said it's a piece of trash and after using it she is happy I talked her out of it. I really wish they made machines like that today. It would be great if they made tall tubs with the hobert design. What happened to KitchenAid is almost as bad as what happen to Frigidaire. Peter |
Post# 236731 , Reply# 5   9/15/2007 at 10:22 (6,061 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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You don't have to give up on pots and pans in these wonderful machines, that is totally a misconception. You just have to learn where to leave space for the water to make it 'up' to the top rack. In our Varicycle portable (similar problem), washing dirty pots and pans is a joy...first US made dishwasher which works as well as my Miele at getting really dirty pots clean. But I have to leave space free at the sides and the back as well as roughly three inches from the back. If I do this, everything on the top racks comes out perfectly clean. Water temperature plays a big, big role here. I suggest you go for 150F at least. Enzyme detergents like Great Value work much better in this machine than I ever thought they would; you may not have to go for the TOL detergents once you figure out loading. I never use the full dry cycle, the rinse is so hot even on the Varicycle that two minutes after I open the lid the dishes are dry. If the rinse aid dispenser has failed for heaven's sake don't replace it with one of the millions of recalled ones used in Maytags, GEs and other modern trash. Use, instead, a combo-tablet with built in rinse agent. And do find that little spray arm. It makes a difference. Given the sales of LG, Bosch and Miele in the US, I really wonder if the American manufacturers were so right in their decision to stop building quality and just offer shit. Oh, noise and heat insulation. I would hold off on that until you know for sure that there aren't going to be any major repairs coming up. And don't believe a word the repair in-duh-vi-duals say at the stores. With few exceptions, there is nothing in that machine which can't be fixed, replaced or worked around...should it ever break. |