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Post# 241177   10/9/2007 at 01:27 (6,037 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        

YEAH! Yesterday I definitively wire two new inlet valves...
I'm unpleasent to haven't get restored the original ones but now I honestly haven't got so spare time to do that... I'll save them to do it nexlty.

The leak from the hot-valves was the responsible of the water droppin onto the motor so that it seemed not working again in wash speed, although the related capacitor either was demaged.

I thought I had to buy two different type of inlet valves (here there are the cold water valves and the hot water valves), but they gave me a pair of "universali"...they say Tm25°C, TM90°C3min10sec... does the fill period last more than 3min? And should I hook up the machine on 90°C outlet? Now I use the Y...in the future I'm going to hook it up to the hot water (we're going to place solar panels!) but it would reach 50-60°C max, so it should be good the same...or should I go looking for the specific Tm60°C, TM120°C inlet valve!?

Apart fron the missin latch of the drum closing (whihc I hope soon to be able to rebuild!), the machine WORKS PERFECTLY!
It fills, then tumble for a while, stay soaking heating the water and then go on tumbling again and stay heating until the temperature is reached...then goes in rinse cycles and woom-woom-woom-woom-woom!!! And finally the spin!

There still was a very little leaks just where the heating elements joint the outertub (there should be the seals over there, but I prefer to make them stronger adding a bit of temp-proof silicone!), but it needs a bit more.

My father said to me "AH, alla fine ce l'hai fatta farla funzionare...e si accende pure la luce!" he was referring with "luce" to the heating red-led!

I cannot see the hour of fixing the drum and then my First Italian Top Loading Horizontal Axis Superautomatic Washin Machine works again!

Promised that as soon as possible many pictures and so some video either will come for you!

THANKS ALL!
GOOD BYE
Diomede

PS: I should repair some othe little things (such as some scratches on cabinet) to be a very completely restoration but to show it you working I think it could be enough!


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Post# 241186 , Reply# 1   10/9/2007 at 03:58 (6,037 days old) by mielabor ()        

Congratulations with your successful repair. I am looking forward to the pictures.

Post# 241189 , Reply# 2   10/9/2007 at 04:20 (6,037 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Wonderful Diomede, can't wait to see pictuers. And a video would be wonderful if that is possible. And happy washing!!

Post# 241215 , Reply# 3   10/9/2007 at 09:00 (6,037 days old) by dj-gabriele ()        
Fantastico Diomede!!!

Non vedo l'ora di vederla funzionare! Se tu fossi un po' più vicino ti farei sicuramente una visita!

I'm looking forward to see it running! If you lived near I'd pay you a visit for sure!

Yeahhhhh!


Post# 241218 , Reply# 4   10/9/2007 at 09:18 (6,037 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
Se tu fossi un po' più vicino ti farei sicuramente una v

:-) No problem...the farer you come the better will be the welcome! I'd be happy indeed if you would like to come to visit Ignis... write me via e-mail if you're planning "una visita tra langhe e roero..."

Post# 241236 , Reply# 5   10/9/2007 at 12:28 (6,037 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
And here you are the pictures...

Amaze yourself! Here you are th two new inlet valves!


Post# 241237 , Reply# 6   10/9/2007 at 12:30 (6,037 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
The heating elements...

BLAST! They still have some drops! This will be the more difficult leak to stop...because you have to work cool but then there get whole hot!

Post# 241238 , Reply# 7   10/9/2007 at 12:31 (6,037 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
And now opend without the fron panel

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Post# 241239 , Reply# 8   10/9/2007 at 12:32 (6,037 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
And now the cleaned drum!

here it is!

Post# 241240 , Reply# 9   10/9/2007 at 12:33 (6,037 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
What about looking at the undressed control panel?

here the control panel is!

Post# 241241 , Reply# 10   10/9/2007 at 12:35 (6,037 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
with rear view too!

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Post# 241242 , Reply# 11   10/9/2007 at 12:37 (6,037 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
The level!?

Maybe the pictures doesn't show good enough... but the water reaches the half of the tub! It would be if there were the oblò like if it stayed middle of the windowed lid...and this is the wash level..the rinse is higher! It's higher than the Staber is...



Post# 241243 , Reply# 12   10/9/2007 at 12:39 (6,037 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
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Post# 241244 , Reply# 13   10/9/2007 at 12:47 (6,037 days old) by dj-gabriele ()        

That is a ton of water!!!! I can't believe that there's that much in the drum!!! It is a standard 5 kg model or something less?

About "una visita tra langhe e roero..." I'm going to write you an email soon, but wait for my flu to go away ;)


Post# 241245 , Reply# 14   10/9/2007 at 12:57 (6,037 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
Great!

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I am very happy for you. Don't worry about the leaks around the heating elements, hi-temp silicone will solve that problem. They do not get too hot around the connectors. Just be sure to clean the metal very well first (and be careful, even after all these years the edges of the tub will be very very sharp).
Yes, you should get a higher temperature fill valve if you are going to fill it with hot water all the time. You don't have to use a twin pair, by the way. I should think the 3 minutes is more than enough unless you have very low water pressure. And even then, the cold water is cooling the valve.
Keep us informed how it goes and thanks for the pictures. What a wonderful machine!


Post# 241260 , Reply# 15   10/9/2007 at 13:41 (6,037 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        
Donnerwetter!!!

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Only now I see there is a detergent dispenser on the front! Wonderful pictures Diomede! I hope you can fix the last problem too. This machine is really worth it!

Post# 241269 , Reply# 16   10/9/2007 at 14:18 (6,037 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
VIDEOS!

Here's the first one...





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Can you hear the trrrrr of the timer going on!? The machine is heating that's why the red light lamp is on!


Post# 241271 , Reply# 17   10/9/2007 at 14:24 (6,037 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
And now I have added a bit of detergent... so

SUDSY DRUM! Look how the tubs group shake and the machine is only water filled...imagine what happens with the load?!





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As I have said somewhere in another post the sliding door has got a switch that doesn't work perfeclty infact you see I have to close it carefully


Post# 241279 , Reply# 18   10/9/2007 at 14:55 (6,037 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
The drainig...

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Post# 241284 , Reply# 19   10/9/2007 at 15:06 (6,037 days old) by funguy10 ()        

Could you do a full cycle video please?

Post# 241285 , Reply# 20   10/9/2007 at 15:10 (6,037 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
Could you do a full cycle video please?

Oh... yes but non immediately... I mean not this week of course.
Nextly perhaps a video with the load should be done, but I'm waiting for a friend help to fix the drum closing...I'm not let the machine going with any clothes until the drum is not fixed...this to prevent any demage!

Be patient...of course other video and other pics are coming soon!

GOODBYE
Diomede


Post# 241286 , Reply# 21   10/9/2007 at 15:11 (6,037 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Funguy, is it never enough for you?

Diomede,

Wonderful videos. You can be proud of yourself for doing this restoration! Another treasure saved!

Louis


Post# 241289 , Reply# 22   10/9/2007 at 15:19 (6,037 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
Funguy, is it never enough for you?

Evidentemente no! :-D

Now we're waiting for Funguy's restoration! When is it up to you!?


Hurry up! Do as I did...look for your dreams' machine and go on with it, start the restoration and do your best! Come on...


Post# 241294 , Reply# 23   10/9/2007 at 15:59 (6,037 days old) by funguy10 ()        

I'm only 15. I have not been around for these pre-1985 washers.

Post# 241480 , Reply# 24   10/10/2007 at 08:50 (6,036 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
The spin...

Here you are the spin...The lightblue lidswitch is a deviator, whet you open it the machine swap from spin speed into wash speed in the same direction. The sliding lidswitcht is not bypassed but as it doesn't work well you can make the machin run even if it's opened! I suppone it spins at 600rpm





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Post# 241481 , Reply# 25   10/10/2007 at 08:51 (6,036 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
The spin...

Here you are the spin...The lightblue lidswitch is a deviator, whet you open it the machine swap from spin speed into wash speed in the same direction. The sliding lidswitcht is not bypassed but as it doesn't work well you can make the machin run even if it's opened! I suppone it spins at 600rpm





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Post# 241482 , Reply# 26   10/10/2007 at 08:52 (6,036 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
The spin...

Here you are the spin...The lightblue lidswitch is a deviator, whet you open it the machine swap from spin speed into wash speed in the same direction. The sliding lidswitcht is not bypassed but as it doesn't work well you can make the machin run even if it's opened! I suppone it spins at 600rpm





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Post# 241483 , Reply# 27   10/10/2007 at 08:53 (6,036 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
Sorry...I posted three times...

I'm afraid

Post# 241484 , Reply# 28   10/10/2007 at 08:59 (6,036 days old) by roto-tray-lover ()        
complimenti!

my compliments for this hard work!

Post# 241486 , Reply# 29   10/10/2007 at 09:05 (6,036 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Awesome video! I never saw a similar lid switch. Most machines just stop when you open the lid. Very funny to see the machine go into wash speed.

Post# 241520 , Reply# 30   10/10/2007 at 11:51 (6,036 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
Most machines just stop when you open the lid.

I honestly assume that this might have to be the today's correspondant spin-off pushbutton... to avoid the spin you had just to shut the sliding...and let the machine go with a low speed spin provided with the wash speed with this lid opened!
The only (I suppore) hidden option :-)



Post# 241539 , Reply# 31   10/10/2007 at 12:50 (6,036 days old) by 74simon ()        
Excellent job, Diomede!

I admire how quickly and well you've got this machine working. I hope you can fix the drum lids so you can do a proper maiden wash in her soon!

Just be careful with your fingers on that rotating drum... I love how old machines can be a bit scary like that!

Si


Post# 241544 , Reply# 32   10/10/2007 at 13:10 (6,036 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
"Un Restauro Perfetto"

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Hi Diomede, well done on getting your dream machine working, I love the sounds as it drives the wash basket along, was surprised to see the level of water, although that would have the "tradizionalisti di lavatrice" clapping their hands with glee!!!

You had me gasping with your fingers near that cheese grater drum...Oohhh, careful as you go...

It looks such a simple solid design, you can see why it still runs today, thank you for sharing your experience with us, enjoy, Mike


Post# 241580 , Reply# 33   10/10/2007 at 15:47 (6,036 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
THANKS!

Simon don't worry about my fingers :-) I only pull and push the sliding handle...I'm not crazy enough to touch the drum rotating in wash neither in spin of course!

Thank you Mike and for have write for me in Italian either :-) it's fair good! Yes, the level is high but consider that the machine has not a load inside so no items to absorbe the water which would decrease I thinks under the 30-40% of the drum...
"Veramente i tradizionalisti vorrebbero un livello simile!" :-)

Oh, my dear friends if I have had to do a restoration just like those I saw here during these year it would have took me for this machine I think few months considering the job only during my spare time...but I decided to quickly get it working so fixing only the most important brakings...3 or 4 intervents and the machine is working again...but I'm too far from considering this one a restoration with capital "R" :-) This might be done nexlty in future starting with the outertub wich is the most weak part of this machine eventually to be completely changed! The cabinet then it was just cleaned up and then:
- new draining pump;
- a hole in the outer tub has been tapped;
- new inlet valves;
- heating elements cleaned up and replaced;

To be done:
- the timeline indicators to be done;
- the detergent compartements lid to be repainted;
- new ON lamp;
- a drum lids blocking system to be build.
- what else?! I didn't want to completely disassemble the machine just now...


Post# 241615 , Reply# 34   10/10/2007 at 18:54 (6,036 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Diomede

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Great video, what a cool and different machine. I really like the pushbuttons along the top.

And the sliding screen above the drum that is a nice touch, my Staber had a locking lid so you couldn't play around at all!




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