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A Philips toploader turns up in the Netherlands, pictures of the famous CC1000!
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Post# 241493   10/10/2007 at 09:27 (6,014 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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I was contacted by a Dutchman who wrote me he had a Philips toploader in his garage for 6 years (it was there when he rented it). And now he decided to give it to friends who needed a washing machine. There was a problem with it but when he took pictures for me (what he offered to do) he noticed that the machine only needed to be reset. It works like a charm now! This machine is somewhere from the 70's I think. IIRC the CC1000 was the first H-axis machine that spun with 1000rpm.




Post# 241495 , Reply# 1   10/10/2007 at 09:29 (6,014 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Isn't that a Museum piece? I extracted a close up of the control panel.

Post# 241496 , Reply# 2   10/10/2007 at 09:31 (6,014 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Here's a picture of the timer. It's behind a little window. It's a rapid advance timer as I think you would call this.

Post# 241497 , Reply# 3   10/10/2007 at 09:33 (6,014 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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And a look at the back. This is the reset knob. After the power had been off the machine it didn't want to unlock, but by turning the knob around the machine was reset.

Post# 241498 , Reply# 4   10/10/2007 at 09:34 (6,014 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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A look at the drum.

Post# 241499 , Reply# 5   10/10/2007 at 09:35 (6,014 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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The detergent dispenser is under the lid. Very modern!!

Post# 241500 , Reply# 6   10/10/2007 at 09:36 (6,014 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Electrical details. Yes! 1000rpm!

Post# 241509 , Reply# 7   10/10/2007 at 10:34 (6,014 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Very cool looking, Louis, but scary on the inside, resemblin

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So interesting, but I would go crazy being unable to take a peek to watch the goings-on. The Tower Unimatic had a completely inaccessible lid switch, but a boy could open the lid just enough before shut-off for a wonderful view.

What do the Dutch boys do? I wonder if Robert could imagine how to unwrap one of these h-axis babies.

Thank you for the trip to the Netherlands.


Post# 241519 , Reply# 8   10/10/2007 at 11:36 (6,014 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
Voll Geil!

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Those Philips toploaders were so well built. Gosh, did this one have the discreet solid state components? AC motor?
Louis, tell all, tell all!


Post# 241536 , Reply# 9   10/10/2007 at 12:44 (6,013 days old) by 74simon ()        
Very nice!

Louis, It looks very similar (but with a different control panel) to the Philips HN3109, which was tested by Which? magazine in November 1969 in the UK. The HN3109 only had seven programmes though, so presumably the CC1000 was either later or TOL. That blue has a whiff of late 60s/very early 70s to my eyes.

The HN3109 was also one of the more economical machines in terms of water consumption in the test by the way - it used 'only' 109 litres of water to wash 3.6 KG of laundry...

My grandma used to have a H/A top loading Philips, apparently she was the first on the block to own an automatic (she was a snob like that)! I don't remember it though, so it's nice to see what one looks like properly.

Thanks for posting the pictures, maybe you should make the owner an offer!

Si


Post# 241547 , Reply# 10   10/10/2007 at 13:24 (6,013 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Ohh

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Hi Louis, at first glance I thought you had got it...OMG, what a beauty, that drum looks sooo sturdy with all those ridges and the big bearings etc...bit of a pain with the lids, those grey ribs on the lids remind me of the vampish Kelvinator agitator!!!

As Simon mentioned, its amazing the amount of water it used to complete the wash, as a similar Philco Ford fl took 29.5 gallons for a 7.5 load, compared to the Philips 24gallons for the 8lb...

A classic machine indeed, heres a pic of the HN3109,


Post# 241561 , Reply# 11   10/10/2007 at 14:11 (6,013 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Whilst we are on about Philips

When a youngster - about 4 years old - my grandma had a Philips top loader. I seem to remember that it was weirdly positioned in their kitchen, being pushed in sideways.

As it was positioned, the dials ran up the right hand side of the machine on top of it.

Now when I saw the machine pictured below, I thought that that is the slim version of their machine. Obviously below is a Philips Slimstar.

My question is did Philips make and sell in the UK a fatter version of this machine - a full width version so to speak. Or is it simply that, being positioned as it was, I saw the full depth side of the machine (hence getting the impression of size) but because of being only about as tall as the machine was high, I couldn't see that it wasn't a full width.

God, I hope you understand what I have written, because I don't think i do!

(take the machine below - turn it sideways - push it into the space in the kitchen - controls on top run up the right hand side of the machine and there you have it)

In reality I think I have answered my own question - just wonder whether anyone can categorically give me a yes or no.

Cheers
Paul


Post# 241571 , Reply# 12   10/10/2007 at 15:09 (6,013 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        
Thanks y'all

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I wish I had room for such a machine, but I haven't. Besides that, it wasn't offered to me. It was great that the owner took pictures for me.

Actually I don't know much about these machines and their technical specifications.

The HN3109 was unknown to me. But that says nothing. Interesting that it was tested in 1969. Then the CC1000 is older than I assumed. What a modern machine for that time!!!

Paul,

I understand what you mean. I'm not sure, Philips made quite a few different models. But I never saw such a model that was wider than the one in the picture.
I remember advertisements with the model in your picture.


Post# 241573 , Reply# 13   10/10/2007 at 15:24 (6,013 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
GREAT!

I thought indeed for a while it was like mine! That's wiht the interiore sliding lid...Philips produced the same Ignis machine after have bought the Ignis brand in failure...it was in the early 80s. Though is a very fantasmagoric machine! The opening seems like the Asko TLHA...and not like mine

I feel the drum too little for 5 chilos...may I ask you which is the capacity of this machine?

Here below the Philips TL sold here in Italy during the 80s...the 60cmwide has the sliding lid like my Ignis


Post# 241576 , Reply# 14   10/10/2007 at 15:38 (6,013 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Here's a page from a brochure with a De Luxe model, the HN3154. This model has a 47 litre drum, capacity is 5kg. Picture is from the German "Waschmaschinen-forum".

Post# 241578 , Reply# 15   10/10/2007 at 15:42 (6,013 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Just for the record a few pictures of other Philips toploader lines. Here's a 40cm wide model with the controls on the front.

Post# 241581 , Reply# 16   10/10/2007 at 15:52 (6,013 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Here's a picture of a machine that is similar to mine. This is a 40cm wide series. Totally different that the 45cm series of which Paul posted a picture. And I think this is also the series of which Chris was talking about in his radio interview.

Post# 241584 , Reply# 17   10/10/2007 at 16:04 (6,013 days old) by 74simon ()        
Here's another!

From the TV Times, December 5th 1968. Sorry about the size, had to do a digicam pic, and tried to keep it readable...

Note that the standard model was cold fill only, but you could fill it manually with hot water if you wished!


Post# 241606 , Reply# 18   10/10/2007 at 17:41 (6,013 days old) by bearpeter ()        
Phillips Inclined drum

I was given many years ago a Phillips inclined drum.... controls were blue and the machine was FAB! (It was an old machine 28 years ago lol)
Does anyone have any info on this machine?
Peter


Post# 241609 , Reply# 19   10/10/2007 at 17:45 (6,013 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Philips inclined drum - front loader at all?

If so this is weird and a bit spooky - see the 'Here's a mystery euro machine thread!' set up by Simon.

Cheers
Paul


Post# 241612 , Reply# 20   10/10/2007 at 18:31 (6,013 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
ohhh

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that looks like a cool machine to do a few loads in! I bet that door boot is a nightmare to change when it rips from Louis trying to wash his spurs along with his chaps!


Post# 241613 , Reply# 21   10/10/2007 at 18:32 (6,013 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
PS I LUV

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how the fins in the tub scare Mike!!

BOOO! From Halloween City!




Post# 241616 , Reply# 22   10/10/2007 at 19:07 (6,013 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
You're pretty funny, Jon

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Thanks for tickling my funny bone ;D

Post# 241621 , Reply# 23   10/10/2007 at 19:41 (6,013 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Luigi, congratulations!! Good going. Very excited for you!!!

Post# 241635 , Reply# 24   10/10/2007 at 22:02 (6,013 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)        

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Well HOOFDWAS it is. MEETAKEN ALMITE SMAKUGWAS.

Philips, light bubls in the USA.

Kool wahser.

Steve


Post# 241641 , Reply# 25   10/10/2007 at 23:08 (6,013 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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I just love these top-load h-axis washers - does it really use a lot more water?

I should try to find a Staber to play with - they are fun to see running, even if you can't the clothes tumbling. The sounds they make are fantastic. I'll bet this Phillips running with the lid open would sound very similar, especially if there is lots of water sloshing about.

That door boot does look like fun to change - the oval opening is worth every bit of effort though!


Post# 241657 , Reply# 26   10/11/2007 at 01:43 (6,013 days old) by lederstiefel1 ()        

My Aunty in Abergavenny/Wales had one of those Philips and I liked it - was a very good machine and lasted for ages!
But the 40 cm slim machine we had at home was a terrible machine!
Ruined the floor because it had no suspension but excentric wheels underneath which were supposed to catch the swinging and swaying from the spinning process which never worked properly though and the machine used to walk away from its place, had a very bad spinnig (300 rpm), was quite loud when spinning and finally set the whole flat under water as it had no stainless steel but an enamelled tub which rusted through after 10 years during a boil-wash cycle...

Ralf


Post# 241667 , Reply# 27   10/11/2007 at 02:33 (6,013 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Just for the record, this isn't my machine. The owner sent pictures to me and because this is such a special machine I decided to post them here.


Greg,

Older frontloaders and H-axis toploaders used lots more water than they do nowadays. They needed more water because they didn't perform spins between all rinses. But apparently this machine was rather frugal compared with it's competitors at that time. Those Stabers look pretty intrigueing. The hexagonal design probably makes for even more water noise.

Ralf,

The 40cm wide models with the controls on the fron indeed had no suspension, although I am wondering if the later models didn't have that either. I think I remember that later there was a model that spun a bit faster. Anyone have memories of those machines? I would love to know more about them.

The 40cm wide models with the controls at the back did have a suspension system. They were really wonderful machines, I still love mine. I found a see through drawing of a later model.

Mr cowboy Jetcone, I'm not wearing chaps and spurs, I'm a decent city guy. Watch your steps mister, or you'll have a big slap coming across the ocean...!


Post# 241673 , Reply# 28   10/11/2007 at 05:36 (6,013 days old) by 74simon ()        
Water use

Yep, the Philips was pretty economical for its time. I've just been working out how much water the machines tested in 1969 used per kilogram of washing, starting from the most economical:

Candy Misura: 26.7 Litres

English Electric Reversomatic Deluxe: 28.6 Litres

Philips HN 3109: 30.3 Litres

Hoover Keymatic Deluxe: 35 Litres

Hotpoint Automatic 1502: 42 Litres

Bendix LS: 42.2 Litres

To put this in perspective, the LG machines that Which? recommend for eco-conscious buyers use 7.2 Litres per kilo of washing - nearly a quarter of that used by the most water efficient machine in 1969, and it holds nearly four times the amount of laundry too! But I know what *I'd* rather have...

Si



Post# 241689 , Reply# 29   10/11/2007 at 07:21 (6,013 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Water Consumption....

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Hey Si/Everyone

Thought id work out the difference in consumption between my 1986 Hoover A3308 and my 2006 Electrolux Insight...

A3308 120l cold +14l hot to wash 4.5kg =29.77l/kg

Insight 60l cold only to wash 8kg =7.5l/kg

But then the Hoover rinsed far better no doubt... :)

Seamus


Post# 241697 , Reply# 30   10/11/2007 at 07:49 (6,013 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        

Nice looking machine, although it is hard to get an idea of the scale of it from the photos. One of the brochures shows a woman's hand reaching towards the inside of a machine that appears to be pretty small. Is it about the size of an F&P?

Discussing the amount of water a washer uses still seems kind of funny to me in spite of all the fuss over conservation.
Kind of like the fuss over the amount of water a dishwasher uses. A dishwasher using water to clean with! What a concept!

A washer using water to clean with! What a concept!
Honey puhleeeez, fill that 'suckah up! Give me an old fashioned water-hog anytime! Solid-tub washers with overflow rinses and old KitchenAid diswashers----yeah!

Anyway, thanks for sharing---looks like a really nice machine. Would love to have the opportunity to see one in action some time.


Post# 241700 , Reply# 31   10/11/2007 at 07:56 (6,013 days old) by robm (Buxted)        
My Mum's machine

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OMG Louis the picture at 15.52 of the 40cm toploader was my Mother's first automatic. It used to just go into the spin cycle without distribution but did remain very stable. It had a 800rpm variable spin and a fairly noisy brush motor. I always thought the motor which took a while to get up to speed due to the drum being full of water must have taken a bashing. I used to play with the variable spin to and step it up manually.

I have to confess I did hate this machine though, just because I couldn't see what was going on. Was much happier when Mum re did her kitchen and got a front loader Hotpoint 9530 and I could see what was going on.

Thanks for the pic

Rob


Post# 241705 , Reply# 32   10/11/2007 at 08:04 (6,013 days old) by gizmo (Victoria, Australia)        
AWB149

The awb149 in Louis's last post, the model with the silver lower control panel and brown upper control panel - that is the model of my first Philips TL, which I gave away years ago. It spins at 800 rpm, it starts to spin when still full of water. The top half of the control panel is smoky brown tinted clear plastic, you see knob markings through the plastic window.

The machine I have now is a later model than any of the pics here, it was current when Philips became Philips-Whirlpool. It spins at 1000 rpm (?), and does a neutral drain before spinning. Mine now has a fault (the electronic module is misbehaving) but it was a great machine.

Chris


Post# 241753 , Reply# 33   10/11/2007 at 12:36 (6,012 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        
Chris

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IIRC the AWB149's topspeed is 850 rpm, just as my AWB119. They were both the TOL model of their series.

The later series that was sold when Philips became Whirlpool had the detergent dispenser on the bottom of the lid. On the first models they weren't removable so they were a pain to clean.

The need for a lower water consumption demanded that the drain before spinning was introduced, the older models only spin with a drum filled with water to the highest level.

Great machines indeed. Here's a picture of a later Philips.

Louis


Post# 241855 , Reply# 34   10/11/2007 at 20:29 (6,012 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
here ya go cowboys

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the guts of the staber

Post# 241858 , Reply# 35   10/11/2007 at 20:32 (6,012 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Staber Tub

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It does clean well and makes alot of splash. I will give it that.



Post# 241870 , Reply# 36   10/11/2007 at 20:52 (6,012 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Wow! The water use of these older machine is just as astounding as their top loading American counterparts...

For comparison, I took the water use of a large capacity Maytag washer from 1969 (40 gal) and used a "large capacity" load of 14 pounds (6.4 kg) and came up with 23.66 litres of water per kilogram of washing.


This has been a very interesting and educational thread!


Post# 241920 , Reply# 37   10/12/2007 at 00:59 (6,012 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
Just restored...

As you probably know I've just finished to quiuckly restore a TLHA, it's the first Superatutomatic washing machine with top loading (HA) sold here in 60s... it's a 1965 Ignis...
It seems incredible like a Staber...but if you look at ut carefully you can see the difference, starting from the drum, mine's got a traditional circular drum with 4 agi-paddles

BYE
Diomede


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Post# 241921 , Reply# 38   10/12/2007 at 01:08 (6,012 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
60cm

Yes...in past it was easier to find such large TL machine, that's 60cm wide. Now it seems that TL (here in Europe) means 40cm wide ONLY, just as that of Louis draw. Somewhat are 45 but maybe "Family" models to hold up to 7,5Kg (honestly I know only Sangiorgio or Thomson of French Brandt make these) or TLHA washer/dryre combo.

I wrote to Whirpool (the today's Ignis owner), to tell them that even if it's not convenient any more to produce and sell machine like that here (too big for us now), it would be indeed a great gain to do it over there in US, where peopole aro not waintig for else than this! Staber is the only but not so many people trust in that machine. Be faithful my dear american friends your laudry revolution will come soon.
At end they answer me that "the enquire is beeing forwarded to the compentent manager"...no anwers yet now!


Post# 242146 , Reply# 39   10/13/2007 at 04:29 (6,011 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Greg,

Yes, the older European machines were waterhogs! There is however a difference between American toploaders and these ones. These machines use less water for washing and more for rinsing. Most of them have 4 - 5 rinses. My compact Miele toploader even has 6! They needed that many rinses because there were hardly spins between rinses or often not at all.

Diomede,

Does your Ignis spin between rinses?

Years ago, in the late 90's I think, I mailed Miele and Bosch if they were planning to sell their toploaders on the American market. I never heard from them. At that time Bosch had a toploader that matched their dryers, it would have been a smart looking set. And conveniently compact!


Post# 242149 , Reply# 40   10/13/2007 at 05:23 (6,011 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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My vintage Miele w1070 which was produced from about the 1980's through early 1990's indeed has four deep rinses on "cottons". If you count the water added at the end of the wash cycle it makes five, since quite allot of water is put into the tub to cool down the suds. And yes, there are only two spins during rinsing. One short spin after the second rinse, and a longer after the third.

This is basically rinsing by dilution and have to say it works. Not for those who pay high water rates though, or have septic systems.



L.


Post# 242168 , Reply# 41   10/13/2007 at 08:12 (6,011 days old) by bearpeter ()        
....and what about the 80's Philips tumble dryers????

My cousin had a matching set and apart from the movement of the clothes against the door, it was practically silent!
You can't say that about the Whirlpool UK dryers....
PHILIPS MACHINES (before WP took over) WERE THE BEST!!!
Peter


Post# 242329 , Reply# 42   10/14/2007 at 08:57 (6,010 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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I don't know much about these dryers, never saw one running. I have a few pictures of one.

Post# 242330 , Reply# 43   10/14/2007 at 08:58 (6,010 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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These dryers didn't have stainless steel drums yet.

Post# 242331 , Reply# 44   10/14/2007 at 08:59 (6,010 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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And... they were apparently made in Britain!

Post# 242446 , Reply# 45   10/15/2007 at 06:30 (6,009 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

great pictures Louis.
I am glad you took a piccy of the information plate as my next question was going to be any idea of the model number.

I remember one or two of these from when I was a kid and they were very quiet in comparison to other stuf on the market at the time.

I loved the matching washing machines - I have a bit of a thing for clasy metallic silver facias - Hoover matchboxes and Hottie liberators.

I am pretty sure that my best mates grandparetnts had the very matching washer to the dryer shown above. Their machine also had bronze coloured programmer insets. I haven't been to the grandparents house for years and years and, like the house opposite their's which use to have a Hoover 3223H Keymatic, that classic Philips might still be there.

Oh to cook up a valid excuse.
Keep on posting Philips - a classic brand which I would love to know more about.

Before I click the post button, does anyone know the history of the right hand drive Philips machines shown below - were they continental machines only, or did they also appear in the UK?.

Cheers
Paul


Post# 242448 , Reply# 46   10/15/2007 at 06:39 (6,009 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
TLHA...to say on topic...

Thus Paul the series I suppose go on with these below...
Thank you for the date...I was getting crazy to found it... 1978!

Few years before Ignis (the inventor here of automatic TLHA) became a Philips brand

This pics has been posted few months ago by Marco (bewitched).

BYE
Diomede


Post# 242477 , Reply# 47   10/15/2007 at 08:58 (6,009 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Diomede.

The pictures I posted were also from on here, no doubt posted by Marco. The years written on underneath were put there by me and were from info from when they were first posted. The year is therefore not official and so may be inaccurate.

As far as the UK is concerned we had the left hand drive model 707 back in 1976 and I personally had bever known of right hand drive Philips washing machines until Marco posted the adverts. So this may mean either that the 1978 year is wrong or the machines shown were produced for Continental European sales only and not UK sale.

Sorry for any confusion and over to Marco for confirmation of the year (or anyone else if they know for certain).

Cheers
Paul


Post# 242666 , Reply# 48   10/16/2007 at 04:41 (6,008 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Paul,

I posted some pictures in the Simon's Euro Mystery machine thread.


Post# 242668 , Reply# 49   10/16/2007 at 04:50 (6,008 days old) by bearpeter ()        
thanks Foraloysius...

Great photos of the Philips dryer!!!
They were almost silent!!! Great brand, great loss to us here old enough to remember them. As far as I am concerned, they were the "Miele" of the 70's and 80's!
Thanks again for the memories!
Peter


Post# 242697 , Reply# 50   10/16/2007 at 08:24 (6,008 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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I thought it would be nice to get a complete overview of the toploaders Philips built. Here's a picture of a Philips Slimstar. The model number is WA444 and the date of this outtake from a brochure is from 1974. (Picture from "Waschmaschinen-forum")

Post# 242700 , Reply# 51   10/16/2007 at 08:29 (6,008 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        
Now the scary part....

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Some years ago I came across a Ruton (a brand name owned by Philips) washer that was put on the curb. I went home to get my camera and took these pictures. The control panel is almost the same as the Philips Slimstar (Ruton used orange accents on it's control panels for a long time) but the machine is totally different undere the lid! I just discovered that!

Post# 242701 , Reply# 52   10/16/2007 at 08:31 (6,008 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Picture #2

Post# 242702 , Reply# 53   10/16/2007 at 08:31 (6,008 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Picture #3

Post# 242703 , Reply# 54   10/16/2007 at 08:32 (6,008 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Picture #4

Post# 242705 , Reply# 55   10/16/2007 at 08:34 (6,008 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Picture #5

As you can see it was a 1000rpm machine too. Very fast for that era, especially for an H-axis TL.


Post# 242708 , Reply# 56   10/16/2007 at 08:50 (6,008 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        
More Philips information

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I found this in another map on my computer. It's a scan from a Philips jubileum book. This is the translation of the text:

"Apart from a groing number of small household appliances new Philips fridges, freezers, washers and dishwashers enter the market. With possible overproduction in Western Europe Philips starts cooperating with other companies. In 1969 an agreement is reached with Ignis for founding a joint venture for coolers and freezers: Industrie Reunite Eurodomestica S.p.A. (IRE) in Comerio, Italy. Together with Bauknecht a factory for dishwashers is built in 1970 in Neunkirchen, Western Germany: Euro Hausgeraete G.m.b.H. The centre of the division for large household appliances is founded in Comerio."



Post# 242742 , Reply# 57   10/16/2007 at 11:08 (6,008 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
COMERIO!!!!

I really didn't think that Ignis started to fail so far early!!! 1969? But it was just a few year after it was born!!

The machine you see posted by Louis was invented by "Cavalier Borghi"... and that's why then during all the 70s and on this kind of machines were largely found with the Philips brand too.

From 1969 so until 1991 when this joint-venture (Philips-Ignis-Bauknechnt) entered the Whirlpool brand here in Europe...

By the way here you are the new Ignis website...it was recently created!

As you can see no 60cmwide TLHA left...


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