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| Post# 244657 10/25/2007 at 23:27 (6,019 days old) by eddy1210 (Burnaby BC Canada) | ||
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| Post# 244660 , Reply# 1 10/25/2007 at 23:36 (6,019 days old) by eddy1210 (Burnaby BC Canada) | ||
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Post# 244667 , Reply# 2 10/26/2007 at 01:29 (6,019 days old) by arrrooohhh  (Sydney Australia) |
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Nice looking machine there! | ||
| Post# 244675 , Reply# 3 10/26/2007 at 02:23 (6,019 days old) by brettsomers () | ||
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... i see Maytagesque flex-vanes... | ||
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Post# 244701 , Reply# 4 10/26/2007 at 08:00 (6,019 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O ) |
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Eddy, does it say if it was made in Canada or the US? In vacuums etc other than Hoover, GE & Electrolux which were made in Canada by them in their own plants, the other makes were either imported or made under license in Canada by private companies, ie Onward Mfg in Kitchener made Eurekas, Switson Ind in Toronto made Filter Queens etc.
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Post# 244702 , Reply# 5 10/26/2007 at 08:02 (6,019 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut) |
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Post# 244705 , Reply# 6 10/26/2007 at 08:07 (6,019 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Viking
Hi Eddy, nice find, and , a bargain always makes it sweeter!!!Those vanes look like it could do a serious swirl action...Looking forward to seeing the vids!!!Have you moved or just updated address etc?? Cheers, Mike p.s. Used the PIG last month, OMG, what a beasty, it was so weird having the basement to myself without you , Jon & Louis not being there as well...LOL | ||
| Post# 244716 , Reply# 7 10/26/2007 at 10:05 (6,019 days old) by cycla-fabric (New Jersey (Northern)) | ||
Neat Viking
What a great looking machine you have there. I remember reading about Canadian Viking machines in CR. When tested they were rated good. A nice big tub for washing those large loads too. What's great about this machine is it doesn't index which allows for better turnover. It's a keeper and good luck with it. Cycla Fabric | ||
| Post# 244747 , Reply# 8 10/26/2007 at 12:59 (6,019 days old) by nmaineman36 () | ||
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This washer kinda reminds me of the Bradford washer design that Grants used to sell. Looks like a nice big basket you have there. You dont see very many of this design. Good find! | ||
| Post# 244751 , Reply# 9 10/26/2007 at 13:21 (6,019 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
that washer look like it was made in cooaparition with other | ||
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Post# 244756 , Reply# 10 10/26/2007 at 13:55 (6,018 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O ) |
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Post# 244759 , Reply# 11 10/26/2007 at 14:23 (6,018 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Might have been made by Westinghouse
Neat machine, Eddy - definitely worth the $35 investment!! My Dad worked for Eatons years ago and I remember hearing a lot of conversations about who was making what under the Viking brand name. Westinghouse was a big player in the early to late 1960's - the washer agitator and control dial look very much like the Westinghouse models of that era.
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| Post# 244784 , Reply# 12 10/26/2007 at 18:12 (6,018 days old) by eddy1210 (Burnaby BC Canada) | ||
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thanks everyone
Glad you are all enjoying it. Pete, all I can find on the back on the plate is built by Timothy Eaton Co, Canada. The model number it gives is W68FX2NS, does anyone recognize that? The 68 could be the year built. Mike, hi.. I've been taking note of your meandering! Nice pictues BTW. Still here at the house in New Westminster. Paul, so you think it might be Westinghouse built? Makes me wonder, I thought for sure Franklin but the intriguing thing is the super-fast tub brake that stops the tub instantly and silently. It's a reversing motor and recirculates the water through a GE like FilterFlo hat. It's fun to play with, it's working perfectly. 
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| Post# 244789 , Reply# 13 10/26/2007 at 18:38 (6,018 days old) by bestcleaning () | ||
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Nice machine. Very interesting agitator, post videos for us. | ||
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Post# 244801 , Reply# 14 10/26/2007 at 20:49 (6,018 days old) by cleanteamofny ((Monroe, New York) |
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Nice machine! | ||
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Post# 244802 , Reply# 15 10/26/2007 at 20:49 (6,018 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O ) |
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Westinghouse did have a plant in Hamilton up through the 60's. In 48 when my dad came to Canada he worked for Eatons in their spinning mill, when they actually used to make some of their socks and underwear etc. He then went to work for Westinghouse in Hamilton but I don't know if they made washing machines or not, he's gone now so I can't ask him. In 1950 he got a job with Fiberglas and I remember that he used to take trips back to Hamilton and Toronto etc to get specs etc on ovens, fridges etc for the moulds used in cutting the insulating blankets in the appliances and things like that. Why I remember that being so young at the time was he used to bring home the obsolete molds for building things. The cutting molds or forms were various sized sheets of thick plywood on which sharp steel strapping in the shape of the desired cut was inserted. He'd pull the strapping out and have a piece of plywood..LOL
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| Post# 244803 , Reply# 16 10/26/2007 at 20:57 (6,018 days old) by northwesty (Renton, WA) | ||
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Hi Eddy, nice score. Did you get it at an estate sale or something? Amazing it worked right out of the box. | ||
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Post# 244821 , Reply# 17 10/27/2007 at 01:01 (6,018 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Tub brake, eh?
Eddy, that so reminds me of a Westinghouse machine I had years ago! The comments about the similarity to a Kelvinator agitator make me wonder if maybe we are looking at a "White Consolidated" product from the very late 60's when Westinghouse, Kelvinator, and Gibson appliances were all being made more or less the same way...
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Post# 244840 , Reply# 18 10/27/2007 at 12:00 (6,018 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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What a bomb!
Nice toy Eddy! That tub looks alot like a 1-18 tub but with that slapulator placed square in the centre no way is it related to a Frigidaire. Does the brake squeal when operating or is it silent? Your jeans will run with terror when wash day rolls around just like Robert's scream for Gladys to haul them back upstairs to safety! | ||
| Post# 244871 , Reply# 19 10/27/2007 at 19:00 (6,017 days old) by eddy1210 (Burnaby BC Canada) | ||
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huge tub
Hi Jon, the tub is 18 lbs but rollover with a full load is awful. The brake is practically silent, in 3 seconds the tub fully stops with a very slight squeak at the very end. Is this in fact a WCI/ Franklin design? I thought it was, here's a pic under the skirt. The belts connect the single pulley transmission and the pump underneath the bottom. Transmission looks very much like a GE.
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| Post# 244921 , Reply# 21 10/28/2007 at 02:39 (6,017 days old) by joeblow () | ||
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Appearance of the tub brake / non indexing tub was probably due to differences between Canadian and US safety legislation at the time. Perhaps Canada had made it mandatory prior to the US. | ||
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Post# 244924 , Reply# 22 10/28/2007 at 05:04 (6,017 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Eddy!!! | ||
| Post# 244945 , Reply# 23 10/28/2007 at 09:58 (6,017 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA) | ||
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| Post# 244946 , Reply# 24 10/28/2007 at 10:01 (6,017 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA) | ||
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Post# 244950 , Reply# 25 10/28/2007 at 10:29 (6,017 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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When I brought home my Kelvinator like this, I got intrigued and went on a scavenger hunt for information about the history of this washer. I posted a bunch of the time-line for Beam, Franklin and WCI and how they were related and came to be, but I don't think many were too interested at the time. The Kelvinator version of this machine that I had, was made by G.R. Manufacturing in Grand Rapids, MI (the plant is still there - they make refrigeration products for Electrolux/Frigidaire...I called them ;-) and had the exact same underbelly as yours, Eddy. I thought the wash action was pretty aggressive, but rollover was no Frigidaire pulsator for sure. Though as with an early Norge, we know that rollover doesn't necessarily have to be present for decent washing results - sometimes the thrashing alone scares the dirt away! The tub-brake in mine was the same, I was shocked at the lack of the indexing tub and the brake, but the parts info for this washer - and it's similar kissin-cousins - proved it. The brake was on the bottom of the transmission above the pulley. Similar machines were available from Gambles - Coronado, Western Auto - Wizard, Co-Op at the same time. Around this same time period, Franklin would become White Consolidated Industries (from the White Sewing Machine Company) and would start acquiring brands like Gibson, Easy, later Westinghouse and Frigidaire. I traced mine to about 67-68 as well and most of the service and parts info I found were from the same time. It looks like this was the first of the perforated tub machines, as the solid tub was still being sold until 66 or so. I think this might have been a "bridge machine" for Franklin/WCI between the solid tub and the takeover of Westinghouse in 1974 when their design changed again. Your model number, Eddy, are similar to the "factory numbers" listed in the Co-Op service and sales book I have. | ||
| Post# 244967 , Reply# 26 10/28/2007 at 12:14 (6,017 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN) | ||
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My Great-Grandmother had a machine like that only it was a "Marquette" brand. Same tub and 5 vane "angel wing" agitator. I only got to see it run ONCE in my lifetime and I couldn't open the lid because it would stop, so I mostly got to listen to it run. | ||
| Post# 244998 , Reply# 27 10/28/2007 at 15:48 (6,016 days old) by eddy1210 (Burnaby BC Canada) | ||
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very interesting history
Greg, thanks for that info, I was as intrigued as you about the tub brake. It must have been a well built brake because even after all this time it stops the tub in 3 seconds or less. Wonder why they never kept the tub brake? Peter, it does have the thrashing action but very little rollover when the tub is full due partly to the fact that it's a very deep narrow tub. So, it does an OK job of cleaning, fun to watch. Jason, did you Great-Grandmother's machine not even agitate with the lid open? Mine has a lid switch that just turns the machine off during the spin cycles. Everything else you can watch with it open. | ||
| Post# 245009 , Reply# 28 10/28/2007 at 17:33 (6,016 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN) | ||
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Eddy, Nope. The water wouldn't even fill if the lid was open. | ||
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Post# 245404 , Reply# 29 10/31/2007 at 08:43 (6,014 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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OMG Eddy, you saved the Canadian version of the Pig, YAY, congrats, what a fun machine. Love the blue agitator, I'm just as shocked as everyone else to hear that Franklin actually produced a brake for a little while. I had absolutely no idea. If the machine is as early as '68 it would have been one of the first perforated tub Franklin washers.
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Post# 245630 , Reply# 30 11/1/2007 at 11:09 (6,013 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay) |
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For Ken and myself and any other members of the unenlightened AW masses, can somebody clue us in on why this machine is affectionately referred to as a pig? Or did I miss the answer somewhere further up? Is it only this particular brand or model? If not, I nominate my mom's '67 Signature/Norge as king of the pig hill--and do not mistake my nomination as a demonstration of affection. It's been over 30 years since that hunk of junk was hauled away and my disdain for it hasn't wavered one bit! | ||
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Post# 245635 , Reply# 31 11/1/2007 at 11:26 (6,013 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Ralph, when I first found my 1966 Franklin built Coronado, I couldn't believe how rough the machine was on clothes, how much water it used unnecessarily as well as how loud reverberations and vibrations run through this whole machine, not to mention what a mess it makes to let it agitate with the lid open. I used to think that Norge/Ward machines held the blue ribbon for that myself until I found the true "Pig"...
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Post# 245641 , Reply# 32 11/1/2007 at 12:30 (6,013 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay) |
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| Post# 245812 , Reply# 33 11/2/2007 at 10:46 (6,012 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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| Post# 245940 , Reply# 34 11/2/2007 at 21:04 (6,011 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.) | ||
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In case I missed it How many OPMs does it agitate, and how fast does it spin? The agitator looks like it could be pretty mean, so if dirt knows what's good for it, it will keep off your clothes. Good Luck, James | ||
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Post# 245962 , Reply# 35 11/3/2007 at 00:33 (6,011 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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A Pig With a Bow | ||
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