Thread Number: 14418
Buying a new machine - need advice (UK/Ireland & Europe) |
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Post# 245777 , Reply# 1   11/2/2007 at 07:32 (5,992 days old) by ariston4life ((Dublin) Ireland)   |   | |
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Post# 245779 , Reply# 2   11/2/2007 at 07:41 (5,992 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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If you have a really good service centre close to you which can handle Bosch/Siemens/Constructa, I'd go with them. They are just a bit more solidly built, IM-not so-HO. But if service is not specialized, then Electrolux is a better choice. Zannusi probably has the nicest looking and easiest to use machines, but their quality ratings (here in Germany at least) have not been as good over the last few years as Bosch or Electrolux. Have your considered a factory reconditioned Miele? They are competitive in price and definitely better than anything else when you wash a lot...and I seem to recall you mentioning once that you do a fair amount. |
Post# 245804 , Reply# 5   11/2/2007 at 10:15 (5,991 days old) by ariston4life ((Dublin) Ireland)   |   | |
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Post# 245836 , Reply# 8   11/2/2007 at 13:12 (5,991 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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Bosch is marketed as the higher quality of these two here in Munich. Which is nonsense, Constructa, Bosch, Siemens and lots of others (including some Miele refrigerators) all roll off the same assembly lines with the same parts and quality control. It is all about marketing. So, if you can get B/S/H service then I would take the German made Bosch. Actually if Mark can give you a price you can afford, the Miele - even at a lower spin speed is such a better machine you won't regret it. Question, apart from Germany, Austria and the US, does anyone else have reconditioned Mieles on offer? Makes sense that we would here in Munich... Bummer, major bummer about Hoover. Now that was once a really cool brand. The Electrolux bearing problem, like the motor board static discharge and the other problems which have come and gone (the dratted door switch which requires switching out the concrete block for example) has been fixed. I really can't think of any other low cost machine which has actually got the bugs all (or nearly all) worked out. If money is really dear, you can't go wrong with a Frigimorelux. |
Post# 245838 , Reply# 9   11/2/2007 at 13:17 (5,991 days old) by mrx ()   |   | |
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I was just wondering if the EWN16781W also has a LED interior light |
Post# 245840 , Reply# 10   11/2/2007 at 13:40 (5,991 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)   |   | |
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fun yes, not really needed? In all honesty, Hoover went down the pan. Few members here need to realise this, glad you do. As have Hotpoint gone down too the same sewer level Hoover went to. :) :) electrolux is the way forward on a budget thats truth. Nor am I tempted though by ANY induction motor. No wonder repair guys love these, motor goes, new motor gets put in. They can hike up repair prices. I think that Zanni motors with carbons are far more reliable than your average Hoover Hotpoint LG induction. Would you rather have that chance take on having your induction motor last 5 years or 10 years or know your brushes can be replace cheaply everytime it goes wrong far cheaper than a new induction motor? Plus such carbon brush motors are proven reliable anyway. Jetsystem is also a great addition to save water and get excellent rinse performance not to mention great washes. It works, thats why it been on them 20 years. Lux is the way to go! YAY! Rob
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Post# 245892 , Reply# 12   11/2/2007 at 16:29 (5,991 days old) by carlstock ()   |   | |
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Just my opinions, I hasten to add. :) I must admit to an interest in watching *any* machine whilst running – don’t we all? hehe :) – but I’d go with what I’ve said above. :) Carl :) |
Post# 245911 , Reply# 17   11/2/2007 at 18:05 (5,991 days old) by 2drumsallergy ()   |   | |
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Hi Mrx, The Insight has the coolest display I have seen on a washer. David |
Post# 245994 , Reply# 18   11/3/2007 at 07:00 (5,991 days old) by mrx ()   |   | |
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I think I'll just order up the 8kg insight then. It does occupy exactly standard cabinet space right ? |
Post# 246062 , Reply# 19   11/3/2007 at 15:35 (5,990 days old) by 2drumsallergy ()   |   | |
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Hi Mrx, Yes its a standard cabinet size, the door does protrude a little but the cabinet fits flush with your kitchen units. I'm sure you will love the Insight they are great machines. David |
Post# 246082 , Reply# 20   11/3/2007 at 16:58 (5,990 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)   |   | |
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David, Have to say the electrolux machines are very nice. Though i'm glad that i didnt buy one to realise it is as stingy on water as my mums AEG (thankfully you can make that do high level rinses!) Rinsing for me is most important. Its my most important factor infact. My clothes are never majorly soiled, so aslong as it washes plausably and rinses brilliantly i'm happy! Having read and heard from people in the trade, electrolux arent doing to good at the moment, their profits have dipped! surprisingly! Darren |
Post# 246095 , Reply# 22   11/3/2007 at 17:39 (5,990 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)   |   | |
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Post# 246116 , Reply# 23   11/3/2007 at 20:29 (5,990 days old) by carlstock ()   |   | |
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You change your washing machines as often as you change your clothes, don’t you, Darren? ;) Also, Darren has pretty much all of my dream machines, which makes me intensely jealous! ;) Carl :) |
Post# 246179 , Reply# 24   11/4/2007 at 03:08 (5,990 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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Was out cruising the new washers with a friend yesterday when we saw a Miele going for between 750-850Euro. I wish they'd had this in 2000, I bought the LG instead because the Miele honeycomb drum is bad at removing cat and dog hair (to be fair, the LG has been a perfect machine, never broken once). The drum is the "older" Miele drum with the standard size perforations. Saleslady says Miele has always had one or two unusual machines in their line-up - one priced specifically to compete with the better B/S/H stuff, one aimed at folks who want the quality, but like different design. No idea - but here's the price-leader, Waschvollautomat W 1514 WPS: According to the salesfolks - and they will tell you whatever they think you want to hear, of course, so get out the grain of salt...Miele didn't cut any corners, just used technology which has already paid for itself, like the drum and the non-soundless drive. I don't know if I'd want a Miele that didn't sound like a Miele... |
Post# 246204 , Reply# 26   11/4/2007 at 07:40 (5,990 days old) by mrx ()   |   | |
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Maybe the cheaper brands can introduce a little recording of a Miele door clunk as you shut the door. In the same way as digital cameras give you a 1950s style shutter snap noise :D |
Post# 246484 , Reply# 31   11/5/2007 at 03:29 (5,989 days old) by islingtonsteve ()   |   | |
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Second Rinse on Cottons |
Post# 246485 , Reply# 32   11/5/2007 at 03:30 (5,989 days old) by islingtonsteve ()   |   | |
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(bad) pic of the display |
Post# 246598 , Reply# 33   11/5/2007 at 13:50 (5,988 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)   |   | |
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Post# 246628 , Reply# 34   11/5/2007 at 16:38 (5,988 days old) by liberator1509 (Ireland)   |   | |
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buy a Maytag (Asko)? Assumming you can push the money-boat out...IIRC, they are very, very expensive back home in Ireland - but fantastic (and uber-stylish) machines...the 1800 spin model in particular! |