Thread Number: 15166
Can you identify these controls? |
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Post# 256152   12/24/2007 at 21:56 (5,960 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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Post# 256154 , Reply# 1   12/24/2007 at 21:58 (5,960 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 256156 , Reply# 2   12/24/2007 at 22:08 (5,960 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)   |   | |
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Post# 256162 , Reply# 3   12/24/2007 at 23:11 (5,960 days old) by pturo (Syracuse, New York)   |   | |
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Lots of vacuum hoses. They open and shut things when switches are tripped. Methinks an early Maytag or Whirlpool washer/dryer combo. |
Post# 256164 , Reply# 4   12/24/2007 at 23:16 (5,960 days old) by pturo (Syracuse, New York)   |   | |
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Look at the cabinet layout in relation to the control panel. A top loader would have a raised control panel, not flush to the top, so it is a front loader, and still looks to me to be a Whirlpool combo. |
Post# 256165 , Reply# 5   12/24/2007 at 23:19 (5,960 days old) by rogera608s (Tucson,AZ)   |   | |
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Greg, Is it safe and sound back in Omaha? Along with you and Skyler. Can't wait for a full frontal shot. Roger |
Post# 256260 , Reply# 6   12/25/2007 at 19:20 (5,959 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)   |   | |
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Some sort of "timeline" critter. |
Post# 256270 , Reply# 7   12/25/2007 at 20:42 (5,959 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 256277 , Reply# 8   12/25/2007 at 21:00 (5,959 days old) by rickr (.)   |   | |
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Post# 256348 , Reply# 10   12/26/2007 at 10:56 (5,959 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)   |   | |
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O.K., now that I know, I wonder what they were thinking, making that so complicated? |
Post# 256355 , Reply# 11   12/26/2007 at 12:45 (5,959 days old) by bestcleaning ()   |   | |
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1960 Lady K. push button. Of course. |
Post# 256360 , Reply# 12   12/26/2007 at 13:59 (5,958 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Post# 256361 , Reply# 13   12/26/2007 at 14:00 (5,958 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Post# 256368 , Reply# 14   12/26/2007 at 15:08 (5,958 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 256392 , Reply# 15   12/26/2007 at 19:04 (5,958 days old) by chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)   |   | |
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It looks to me like a 1960 Lady Kenmore. The glass sides of the panel give it away. Am I off base here??? --Charles-- |
Post# 256394 , Reply# 16   12/26/2007 at 19:21 (5,958 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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You're right, it is the 1960 LK washer! I trade the Westinghouse Wash & Dry Laundromat combo for this machine. I'm thrilled to have it, but as with nearly ALL vintage machines, it's going to need some lovin' & strokin' to get it functional again. There is a problem with the timer, when I first tried it last Monday night, it wouldn't quit advancing to the cycle I selected. I was able to get it to begin advancing and stop at the correct cycle, but then the timer itself wouldn't advance through the cycle back to off as it should when running. Upon closer inspection, I found that there are some teeth stripped off of one of the advance-cams or gears and when I first tried it, the advance motor and gear were stuck in the section missing the teeth on the cam. The second problem is that it won't advance through a "spin only" cycle to off which would indicate a problem with the timer motor or a combination of the timer motor and the missing teeth on the cam. I called Reeco Timer this afternoon and spoke with them about the problem. He had never worked on this timer but looked it up in his magic timer spell book and said that he would likely be able to fix it as they have parts on hand for them. Whew! Now the challenge will be to get the timer out of the machine, which as you can see, may be a bit of a hair-puller. I've studied it for a while today and by removing the air pump (which is sitting loose in the panel now) and removing the pressure switch for the water level control, I should be able to get the timer out and disconnect the one million wires attached to it! You know I'll be taking some detailed pics of that process so I'll be able to get it all back together again as I don't have any service doctrine or wiring diagrams for this washer...
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Post# 256395 , Reply# 17   12/26/2007 at 19:24 (5,958 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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Here is another angle of the controls... Complicated beyond all reason, but this is the fun part for those of us who love these old washers! And I thought that 1960 LK dryer was overly-complicated, that was easy compared to this! As I disassemble it further and conduct some more investigative surgery, I'll explain a little further what I think all these parts must do... |
Post# 256397 , Reply# 18   12/26/2007 at 19:30 (5,958 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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This is a closer picture of the advance mechanism. You can see by comparing it to the picture in the previous post that this assembly has two motors on it. One is for advancing to the desired cycle, corresponding to the button pressed and the other is the timer motor that moves the timer cam through each cycle. I love how complicated it is - for now.... In a month, I may not be so enamored with it! Tomorrow, I hope to have the timer out and will show in more detail what the air pump is for and how it works. |
Post# 256399 , Reply# 19   12/26/2007 at 20:07 (5,958 days old) by funguy10 ()   |   | |
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Could you post pics of the machine itself? |
Post# 256405 , Reply# 20   12/26/2007 at 20:40 (5,958 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Post# 256407 , Reply# 21   12/26/2007 at 21:21 (5,958 days old) by rickr (.)   |   | |
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Post# 256434 , Reply# 23   12/27/2007 at 03:30 (5,958 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Brent---Funny you should mention the longevity of this washer; Our 1960 Model 80 (also a pushbutton machine) was still in use in late 1985, when I finally replaced it with a new Whirlpool. I'd moved back to the family home (mom died and stepfather moved to Arizona) and wanted a new washer---was bored with the Model 80, it being the only automatic washer we'd ever had (parents bought it shortly after I was born). Of course, now I realize what a cool machine it was, but in my mid-20's, I wanted something new...
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Post# 256446 , Reply# 24   12/27/2007 at 08:03 (5,958 days old) by askomiele (Belgium Ghent)   |   | |
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Can someone explain me what an airpump is doing inside a controlpanel of a washer? |
Post# 256447 , Reply# 25   12/27/2007 at 08:42 (5,958 days old) by bestcleaning ()   |   | |
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Wow!! Super controls for 1960s. Congratulations! |
Post# 256530 , Reply# 26   12/27/2007 at 19:35 (5,957 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Something familiar in the exposed control panel in Gansky's new thread had me by the gonads. What machine is this? Why can't I figure it out? So I got in touch with Jons to see if he knew and he directed me to the Lady Kenmore in Gansky's Sears Catalog thread. Bingo. As soon as you scroll through you'll recognize that short flat dense long control panel as belonging to the one-touch Lady. Thanks to another genius, Glenn, I'm guessing that the air pump works the dosages (Hi Laundress) for the soap & softener dispensers. We've got to get Rocket Warrior to ignite or electrify something for this machine because if this baby doesn't rock, what does !!!!!!??????? ;'D Funguy, go peek and you'll get many pix. |
Post# 256554 , Reply# 27   12/28/2007 at 00:03 (5,957 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)   |   | |
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Congratulations on finding the washer Greg, and completing the dream pair. Can't wait to see the pics of her in all her glory. Have a good one, James |
Post# 256570 , Reply# 28   12/28/2007 at 05:51 (5,957 days old) by chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)   |   | |
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One has to wonder though, if the 1960 Lady Kenmore had a detergent dispenser, then how come there wasn't a detergent dispenser seen again on a Lady Kenmore washer until 1966??? Who would like to tackle this one??? --Charles-- |
Post# 256580 , Reply# 29   12/28/2007 at 07:14 (5,957 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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The 1960 Lady Kenmore's detergent dispenser was strictly for liquid detergent, so it didn't have to have a 'wash-out' water feed, as did the later dispensers that were designed for powders. Why it took them 'til 1966 to redesign their dispenser, I can't say. It's safe to assume most people used powdered detergents back in 1960. I wonder how many purchasers even bothered using the Lady K's dispenser, since it would have meant having to switch to a liquid? |
Post# 256583 , Reply# 30   12/28/2007 at 07:37 (5,957 days old) by coldspot66 (Plymouth, Mass)   |   | |
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I wonder if the air pump has anything to do with the automatic load size feature advertised for this model?????? Using air displacement on a more sophisticated level to sense load size to use enough water????? |
Post# 256584 , Reply# 31   12/28/2007 at 07:45 (5,957 days old) by coldspot66 (Plymouth, Mass)   |   | |
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Oops...........didn't see the post on thread 14440....disregard my post above....DUH!!!! |
Post# 256652 , Reply# 33   12/28/2007 at 21:04 (5,956 days old) by chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)   |   | |
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Greg: You have to show both the washer and dryer together when the renovation of the washer is complete. That's going to be a beautiful set. But then again, that was your dream set all along, wasn't it??? --Charles-- |
Post# 256654 , Reply# 34   12/28/2007 at 21:07 (5,956 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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"If you were to go ahead and use a liquid detergent with the 1960 Lady Kenmore (just so that you can use the dispenser), because of a lack of a continuous water feed (as was found in the later Lady Kenmores), any liquid detergent that was not dispensed into the tub by the washer could've just dried up and become gummy eventually clogging the dispenser, right?? " Oh, you're just going to LOVE the dispensers.... Soon, I promise! |