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Thread Number: 15313
Oy vey....KD2 is a Bad Girl |
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| Post# 257961 1/5/2008 at 19:10 (5,953 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
I corrected the "Cork" issue on the Drain Manifold,Lubed the Fan Motor (Which actually came out good), but the Poor Dear still pumps out during the Wash And Rinse cycles, and the drain valve leaks like a sieve. Even after I WD-40'ed her. I'm ferklempt. I guess I'm going to have to go with Robert's suggestion and that's hook up a Newer KD drain Valve. I'll miss that "Klunk" when the old solenoid opens and closes. I'll have to get use to the "click" the newer machines make or now made. Man I'll tell you when she's running, Wow !!!! Serious Water Pressure going inside that baby.
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| Post# 257962 , Reply# 1 1/5/2008 at 19:11 (5,953 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
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Fan Motor | ||
| Post# 257963 , Reply# 2 1/5/2008 at 19:13 (5,953 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
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Ready to put back together(I Think) | ||
| Post# 257964 , Reply# 3 1/5/2008 at 19:14 (5,953 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
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Filling | ||
| Post# 257965 , Reply# 4 1/5/2008 at 19:15 (5,953 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
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Oh Man... | ||
| Post# 257966 , Reply# 5 1/5/2008 at 19:17 (5,953 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
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Still Draing while Washing and Rinsing | ||
Post# 257975 , Reply# 6 1/5/2008 at 20:19 (5,953 days old) by bobbins  (Victoria, BC, Canada) |
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Is this model a top loader? Despite with your grief, these older KA are such great gems!!! | ||
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Post# 258009 , Reply# 7 1/5/2008 at 22:54 (5,953 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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Post# 258013 , Reply# 8 1/5/2008 at 23:01 (5,953 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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There should be two springs on the lever that actuates the drain valve. I only see one spring in your photo. I assume you sprayed the WD-40 on the post that the lever actuates? If it moves freely, then perhaps the solenoid that pulls the valve open or closed is defective (I forget which it does). You should observe the solenoid and the lever when the machine stops its pre-wash purge and is supposed to slam the valve shut. If it's working, and the valve shaft is moving in response to the solenoid, then perhaps the valve itself is defective. The valve might be damaged, or perhaps it has some foreign matter in it preventing a full closure. If you move it manually, does it feel like it closes, or is it a vague feeling? Unfortunately from my recollection when I restored my KD2P, the whole pump/valve assembly is rather bulky large cast iron part and it doesn't look like an easy job to service - might have to pull it from the tub and then the fun starts. | ||
| Post# 258035 , Reply# 9 1/6/2008 at 02:46 (5,953 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
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Hmmmmmmmm...
Robert had suggested in my previous thread to by-pass the whole drain solenoid and go with a later model KitchenAid Valve. There are 2 springs on the solenoid. The valve however does not close on the "Warm up" purge before the Main Wash. With my expierience on commercial machines, I would have to say that a drain valve assy. would be that of a Hobart UM-4. If I could get a confirmation on that, I think I know where I could get a brand new one. There is a Hobart Dealer not far from here and I was able to find 2 cast iron fittings in the box for a old Hobart AM machine. But I am really liking Robert's idea about bypassing the whole mess, sealing up the leaks and move on to the next project. However, it will probably bug me until it fixed to the original specifications.
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Post# 258046 , Reply# 10 1/6/2008 at 04:56 (5,952 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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The valve is not supposed to close during the warm-up purge. It's supposed to be fully open so that the water from the previous wash session is removed, and the lower half of the tub gets warmed up with hot water from the faucet. Once this pre-wash purge is over, the solenoid should slam the valve shut with a very audible bang, and then there should be no water coming out of the drain hose until the scheduled drain parts of the cycle. I did notice a little seepage from the valve shaft when I serviced it, but have never noticed it to be a problem. Perhaps there are some drops being caught by the lower pan on the washer (which is probably there for that reason). In addition to what I mentioned in the collection photos, I also had to replace the high temp cutoff sensor button (the heater wasn't heating very much until then), and the water supply valve. It had already been replaced once before by persons unknown, and they had done sort of a hack job that didn't allow for proper routing of the hoses when stowed. I was able to find a reasonably close match to what I figured was the original configuration at an appliance parts store. I also lengthened the hoses by about 2 feet so that the washer could sit at the end of the counter and not have to be moved to the sink for a wash session. Oh, and I put larger wheels on it so that if it has to be moved, it will have an easier time on the brick floor of the patio kitchen. | ||
| Post# 258182 , Reply# 12 1/6/2008 at 19:05 (5,952 days old) by pturo (Syracuse, New York) | ||
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I've never seen a gap like that on the "fill funnel" what's that about, to deter back siphoning? Really cool machine underneath, mechanically, like an old Buick, what you see is what you get. | ||
| Post# 258337 , Reply# 14 1/7/2008 at 03:19 (5,952 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
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stevet
Thanks for the info.Today, I am going to call the Hobart Dealer in New Bedford. If they have the parts I'll buy all the UM parts they have and share them with anyone in the club.I would like to get the whole drain assy. replaced. I am off tomorrow and am going UM hunting. here on Cape Cod, there are a few still kicking around. As a matter of fact I know where there is one sitting in a friends basement. I'll see if he can part with it. Thank-you for all the info. Are you a Hobart Tech ? We'll have to chat about the older Commercial Machines sometime. Eddie
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Post# 258395 , Reply# 15 1/7/2008 at 12:14 (5,951 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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| Post# 258428 , Reply# 16 1/7/2008 at 15:37 (5,951 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
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Waiting... | ||
| Post# 258556 , Reply# 18 1/8/2008 at 05:12 (5,950 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
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Which thread now ? | ||
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