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Post# 60171   3/16/2005 at 18:42 (6,973 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        

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Well, I'm just back from my first appliance hunt.

There's a place here in Tucson that specializes in vintage appliances (somewhere between a junkyard and an actual restoration facility), and I just HAD to go and investigate.

Lots of old fridges, including Philcos, and the pushbutton-adjustable rack GEs; tons of straight and spiral-vane GEs; one Norge-design Signature Montgomery Ward dryer (all I could think about was gansky's lint-explosion story), a belt-drive Maytag dishwasher, a few center-timer Maytag washers, and a WC-Westy SpaceMate unit. Also of note was what I think was a late sixties Lady Kenmore electric dryer. Chrome galore and two big, wide plastic push-buttons (the kind that slant downward when you push them).

There was also a crap-tastic WCI-Frigidaire washer, complete with duct-tape-defeated lid lock (I had to laugh, considering earlier threads on the issue in Super).

Aside from the 20-lb late-eighties-early-nineties Magic Chef that topped the Consumer Reports capacity ratings (even over Dual Action Kenmores--way to go, team), there wasn't much of note, but it looks like a promising place for future scouting.

I saw a headless machine and just decided to open the lid on a lark. It was a Frigidaire 1-18!!! A Jet-Action agitator stared me in the face. Everything else was there--it was so exciting, and yet--no controls? Argh.

It was a nice beginner's foray into things. I have to get in the groove of learning how to look for these things in my area :-)

Let me know if any of the above spark particular interest and I'll go back and research more.





Post# 60175 , Reply# 1   3/16/2005 at 19:07 (6,973 days old) by westytoploader ()        

Wow...I wish they had something like that here. I'd have a field day!

Post# 60176 , Reply# 2   3/16/2005 at 19:19 (6,973 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        
No substitute for perseverance?

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Hiya Austin :-)

How did you come upon the incredible finds you've had so far? Do they just turn up at random times? I'm not a big yard-saler, so I tend to look for places where large appliances collect (you know, junkyards, restoration places, the cracks in the sofa cushions...). The down-side is that they know what you're after and, much like buying a car, you have to appear hopelessly unamused by it all, or risk paying a bundle.

And, well, being unamused when it comes to vintage goodies is hard for me to do :-P


Post# 60191 , Reply# 3   3/16/2005 at 20:57 (6,973 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Nate, keep looking for Frigidaire 1-18s out there. You'll find one yet. May take a couple to pull together a working one.

Post# 60200 , Reply# 4   3/16/2005 at 21:29 (6,973 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        
You know...

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I'm contemplating being a nut and purchasing the cabinet and innards from this 1-18. The inside and everything is pristine--even the lint filter's in place.

What the h-e-double-toothpicks happened to the control panel?

If all it takes is a control panel, I'd be set. Either that, or I can cobble together the world's first 1-18 semiautomatic :-D

I'm sorely tempted...and this might be a valuable parts machine even so...

Hmmm. :-)


Post# 60201 , Reply# 5   3/16/2005 at 21:36 (6,973 days old) by coldspot66 (Plymouth, Mass)        

I have a 1-18 control panel in my workshop from a 2 speed washer.

Post# 60203 , Reply# 6   3/16/2005 at 21:51 (6,973 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        
That does it...

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Okay, I'll go investigate what they want for this machine. If it's reasonable, I'll get it, and then John, I'll be washing your car, cleaning the gutters, you name it :-P

Thanks, you guys!! :-) This is exciting...


Post# 60232 , Reply# 7   3/17/2005 at 08:44 (6,972 days old) by pulsator-power (connecticut)        

I'd say it'd be worth picking up too. What color is it?
Poppy is the all elusive color to get, but any 1-18 is a find
Jerry


Post# 60242 , Reply# 8   3/17/2005 at 09:14 (6,972 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        
Plain white :-)

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It's plain white, which is a good thing--if I brought home a coppertone or magma-orange machine I'd be sleeping on the sofa.

I'm only allowed to pursue the retro-appliance hobby if it looks good in the future "laundromat-lounge" that we're planning (you know, retro machines, complete with martinis and comfy furniture. Do your wash in atomic-age style!).

Thus, turquoise is sketchy and pink is not allowed. See how complicated this gets?!?

Ah, the joys of relationships... :-)


Post# 60246 , Reply# 9   3/17/2005 at 09:24 (6,972 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)        

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Be sure to check around all the cones to ensure perfection.

I have many 1-18 heads also, unless I clean out the carport and send them to the Krusher.


Post# 60253 , Reply# 10   3/17/2005 at 10:26 (6,972 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        
Level III Check :-)

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I'll give it a super-thorough inspection before I start to pursue it seriously. The other consideration is how to move it (last time I checked, Chevy Malibus don't take full-size washers, even with the seats folded down...

I didn't tear it apart to look at it because it was headless and I didn't know if this would be a big issue or not (I wouldn't have even known this was a 1-18 had I not lifted the lid), so a more detailed investigation is warranted.

I'll go this afternoon, and will keep you posted :-)


Post# 60255 , Reply# 11   3/17/2005 at 10:48 (6,972 days old) by pulsator-power (connecticut)        

Actually, this washer is more the "disco era" style than the atomic age, but nothing a mirror ball & lighted dance floor would'nt cure!
Jerry


Post# 60263 , Reply# 12   3/17/2005 at 11:28 (6,972 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        
True :-P

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I'd give my eyeteeth to find a Unimatic such as the one on the front page of this site, but I'll probably win the lottery sooner than find one around here.

So, that notwithstanding, the 1-18 is at least a nice demo piece of Frigidaire's unique wash action before it was sold to WCI and became rather mundane. Plus, it has the larger capacity that most people are accustomed to nowadays.

And let's face it--a little simulated woodgrain never hurt anyone :-P

Maybe I should install an eight-track in it... lol


Post# 60308 , Reply# 13   3/17/2005 at 18:02 (6,972 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        
Waffling!

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Okay, so here's the scoop.

They found the control head for the 1-18, so yup, it's a 1-18.

The lint filter, in-agitator detergent dispenser, and bits and pieces are all there. I noticed that it's easy to rotate the basket by hand--I'm guessing that's normal (all my experience was with BD Whirlpool/Kenmore machines, so guesstimating mechanical integrity on a Frigidaire is way out of my league).

No major rust or scaries, just a tiny bit here and there.

PeterHH70, you were right--I noticed two imperfections on the agitator; one slightly bent edge (no big woo), and one fractured cone-fin (big woo--it'd have to be cemented back into place. At least the fragment is still there!)

They want $35-50 for it. I'll have a rare opportunity next week to be able to transport it, so I'm waffling. It is neat, it is a 1-18, and it looks all-there. But it's not a to-die-for model like a Unimatic per se, and it would really need a new agitator to be fully trustworthy.

Waffle, waffle, waffle. :-) Any thoughts? I'll make up my mind tonight anyhow, but I'd love the input.


Post# 60319 , Reply# 14   3/17/2005 at 19:19 (6,972 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        
Oh hell...

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I thought about it. I called the place, my friends are coming to the rescue with a minivan on Saturday, and dang it, assuming I don't lose it to fate, I'm gonna have a labor of love!

(Jumping up and down with excitement--also savoring the excitement of Unimatic's STELLAR acquisitions!!!)


Post# 60406 , Reply# 15   3/18/2005 at 08:38 (6,971 days old) by pulsator-power (connecticut)        

Okay- MAKE SURE THEY DON'T DITCH IT OR CRUSH IT OR ANYTHING TILL YOU CAN GET THERE TO GET IT!
jerry


Post# 60409 , Reply# 16   3/18/2005 at 09:04 (6,971 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        

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No joke. It moved around the lot overnight, so I'm paranoid. I'm gonna call and double-check...

(Wish me luck...)

Nate


Post# 60411 , Reply# 17   3/18/2005 at 09:13 (6,971 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Good luck Nate, keep us posted. The first washer is always the biggest challenge, it gets easier from here on out!

Post# 60445 , Reply# 18   3/18/2005 at 12:27 (6,971 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        
Step 1 -- Have it be there when you want it

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Yay! The guy who owns the place answered the phone when I called today, and he said he'd sit on it until I can bring transportation Saturday.

He also noted A) he thinks it might work (I told him I'm purchasing it just for parts because I'm evil that way), and B) he seldom messes with the Frigidaire machines due to the hard-to-find nature of parts.

When it comes to a find, "laissez-faire" is music to my ears...

Stay tuned for tomorrow's exciting episode of haggle-and-transport!

By the way, can it be tipped on its back, or does it have to stand straight up when being transported? I don't want to kill it, but I do have a minivan coming, not an open-bed truck...

(Thanks! :-) )


Post# 60451 , Reply# 19   3/18/2005 at 13:01 (6,971 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Transporting it on its side is no problem, especially for short trips.

Post# 60452 , Reply# 20   3/18/2005 at 13:09 (6,971 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        
Phew!

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Thanks, Robert! I'm feeling better and better :-)

(I could just see dragging it home to find out something to the effect of "but didn't you know that with the super-onion-dip-torque-flite-turbo-700 tranny it can't be tipped more than 37.2 degrees!?!...you know, there are funky things that have such caveats...it's good to know that this doesn't :-P)

Thanks again!


Post# 60473 , Reply# 21   3/18/2005 at 16:07 (6,971 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        
Step 2: Pay for it so they won't crunch it

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Have receipt--will pick up tomorrow! :-D

Post# 60721 , Reply# 22   3/20/2005 at 19:02 (6,969 days old) by retromom ()        
And the winner of the Frigidaire 1-18 is......

Nate:

The suspense is killing me! Did you pick it up? Is it at your house? C'mon give us all the details!

Congrats on your first vintage find! Of course you know that her restoration will take love, patience, and money; but not necessarily in that order. ;-)


Post# 60771 , Reply# 23   3/21/2005 at 08:46 (6,968 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        
Y'all ready for this?

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Okay, first of all, I'm a cretin for not posting pics, but the digital camera conked right after the first picture. I'll try to get some this afternoon.

We went on a rainy (DANG IT) Saturday morning to the appliance place, and there it was, sitting outside, control panel and all.

We dollied it back to the van (and dropped it on a stove while trying to negotiate a stairstep--thank God for durable stoves and Frigidaire's bullet-proof finish--neither was damaged), and took it home.

I wanted to reassemble it and test it, but the rain had permeated all the wire harnesses, and I had to take them all apart and blast them out with canned air.

And wait.

And wait and wait and wait.

(ARGH!)

So, I finally gleefully reassembled the control panel to the top of the cabinet, reconnected the harnesses, and reconfigured the lid switch. (I was tempted to defeat it, but I'm a purist with this machine :-P.)

All the while, I'm waiting to find out what it is that was wrong with this machine that sent it to the bonepile in the first place.

Does it leak?

I filled it up with water about three-fourths up the tub and let it sit for three hours. No leaks.

Does it run?

I connect the power chord. My best friend and I are there, looking nervously at each other. (She hides behind a lawn chair.)

I pull the timer.

A soft humming emanates from the back.

Wait a minute! There's water in the machine!

Oh yeah, they cut the tube that goes from the water level switch to the control panel in their haste to decapitate the machine.

Off to Lowe's we go, to get a new section of tubing.

Is it icky inside?

I dismantle the cabinet to get to the water pressure switch. It's amazing.

First of all, this is the EASIEST to work on machine I have ever encountered. Pop the front panel off, squeeze the spring clips and flip the top back, and you've got all-access to just about everything.

I was worried about what I'd find. Rubber shavings? Busted hoses? Mice? An explosion of oil everywhere?

Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Not even dust. The hoses are soft and flexible, and even the spring clips are pliable and intact.

Nothing is broken. No rust. Just a little hard water and soap crud here and there.

The motor gleams and has no dust on it.

Most importantly, not a drop of oil anywhere.

I replace the tubing and reassemble the cabinet and reattach the controls.

Take two

I prepare to pull the timer. (My best friend Beck hides yet again.)

Ka-CHUNK! Chug-chug-chug-chug-chug!

The agitator springs to life with a mighty squeak (which has never happened since--I think it was from sitting), and, as everyone said, sounds like a diesel engine chugging away.

Maiden wash?

After testing the other systems and making sure all is well and functions, I find that absolutely everything works and is intact. After the important addition of a drain hose and a way to directly connect the water valves, I find that the Jet-Circle spray works, too--YAY! All my friends are standing around mesmerized. No one from my generation has seen a washing machine that did things like this. (It's like all the ingenuity and creativity was systematically removed from washer design right around 1980.)

The decision is made to do a test load of laundry.

We gingerly lower a scoop of detergent into the agitator dispenser. (We could have used the cap as a measure--how convenient!!)

I replace the cap, let the machine fill, and then we all watch as a plume of detergent fans out of the agitator and into the water.

About 30 seconds into the agitation, the agitator cap goes SPROING!! and rockets about a foot and a half in the air, followed closely on its heels by the detergent compartment.

Note to self: Turn cap until it clicks.

After that minor snafu, I did *SIX* loads of laundry and gave the Jet-Flow lint filter a run for its money. Everyone commented on the immense capacity (even under ridiculous loads of jeans and cottons) and seemingly relentless attempt by the agitator to force everything to circulate--and it always won out.

Also impressive was the relatively short cycle time and amazing efficiency of the spin, which takes far less time than the seemingly endless spin cycles of the WP/KM machines I was used to as a kid...but the water extraction is even better!

The verdict

From being not-so-impressed initially ("it doesn't look very retro") to being extremely impressed and intrigued by it, my friends (whose house I'm keeping it at) are mulling the concept of wheeling their 2004 GE off into the storage shed and using the 1-18 full-time.

My friend's mom even made the comment, "wow, a real washing machine."

:-D

I'm stoked, stoked, stoked, and the 1-18 works gloriously. This will definitely be my full-time machine when we get our house.

I'm so glad I found you guys when I did, and learned to broaden my affection for vintage machines--the timing was perfect, and meant to be :-)

And YES, I will post pics ASAP!! :-)

A big THANK YOU to all of you for all your help!


Post# 60773 , Reply# 24   3/21/2005 at 08:57 (6,968 days old) by westytoploader ()        

WOW, glad it works and that you saved it from the Krusher! The vertical-action Frigidaires are truly amazing; shame on WCI for swallowing Frigidaire up from GM.

Be sure to check the bellows seals (especially the outer, "water" bellows) in the long run...they're usually pretty "tough" but if the water bellows blows out...not pretty.

--Austin


Post# 60777 , Reply# 25   3/21/2005 at 09:19 (6,968 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        
Repair info?

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Thanks, Austin, I'll do that. Everything seems copasetic, but I do want to make sure I don't just run the puppy into the ground. Any tips on what to check for with the bellows?

BTW, I did find a random chunk of what seems to be urethane foam laying at the bottom of the inside cabinet. I'm guessing maybe there was some insulation or bumper-guards to deal with an oscillating tub in case of the off-balance spin-bonks (you know, like the time washing a pair of jeans with a load of dish-towels *seemed* like a good idea...)...but I don't know for sure...

I need to find a repair manual for this...the insides of a 1-18 look to me the way a Saturn V rocket must have looked to a Model-T mechanic. It's a way different animal than the belt-drive WP/KM machines I'm used to.

:-)



Post# 60778 , Reply# 26   3/21/2005 at 09:41 (6,968 days old) by coldspot66 (Plymouth, Mass)        

I can copy the GM 1/18 repair manual, circa 1970 if you like.
Congrats on your "new" purchase!


Post# 60779 , Reply# 27   3/21/2005 at 09:50 (6,968 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        
Thank you! :-)

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Thanks, John, I would greatly appreciate that. E-mail me (nsmarle@cox.net) and let me know how much for copying, postage, and thank-goodness-you-have-that archivist's fees ;-)



Post# 60782 , Reply# 28   3/21/2005 at 11:07 (6,968 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
I'm so happy for you......

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It makes you wonder why the machine was in the junk pile in the first place. I am so happy you have it and that everything works smoothly. Take good care of it and it will take good care of you. Wow, this is a real success story in my opinion. Now you'll have to start looking for a matching dryer! By the way, what is the model number of your machine?

Post# 60783 , Reply# 29   3/21/2005 at 11:52 (6,968 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        
:-D

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Thanks so much, Patrick! :-) I should swing by my friends' house tonight at some point, so I'll get the model number off of it.

I'll do my best to take good care of it--I do need to learn a LOT about the Frigidaire engineering to understand what to look for, how it all comes together, and how best to care for it.

I too really do wonder what happened. The only thing really wrong with the machine is a crack in an agitator fin, but I can fix that (it's a split, but not a complete fracture).

I think someone just decided it was time for a new machine. What really makes me wonder at the whole thing is the fact that the place where I hunt for machines was going to de facto dismantle it--they didn't even test it to see if it worked, and since they can't readily get parts, they didn't even want to bother.

LOL about the matching dryer--it'd be fun to match the set, but I'm *DYING* to find a condenser dryer so that I can show my friends what it's like to not have baked, stiff clothes come out of the machine (their recent GE dryer just cooks the clothes if you happen to put it on Cotton, so a Filtrator would be a nice departure from that).

Was the Frigidaire matching dryer to the 1-18 pretty cool? I'm guessing from reading various posts that, by that time, they had gone to a flow-through air design, but I'll keep my eyes open and see if one wanders through :-)

Thanks again!! :-D


Post# 60798 , Reply# 30   3/21/2005 at 15:40 (6,968 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
Matching Dryer

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I guess the only reason I mentioned finding a 1-18 dryer is because I like the way the matching set looks together but I guess thats just me. Yes they had long before gotten away from the condensor type and called these the "Flowing Heat" dryers. They are adequate as dryers go, but of the 2 I had, the plastic lint screen guard/holder was always warped from the heat.

The model number on the washer should be located on a metallic label on the back of the console just above or behind the timer/selector control knob.

Have fun and welcome to the world of Jet Action !


Post# 60827 , Reply# 31   3/21/2005 at 20:30 (6,968 days old) by retromom ()        
It lives!! It lives!!

Nate:

Congrats on your precious find! We're still looking for the elusive Texas 1-18! I can't believe the condition that it's in. Your serendipity was impeccable!

Enjoy it! Love it! Use it! (and don't forget to post pics)

Venus


Post# 60865 , Reply# 32   3/21/2005 at 23:16 (6,968 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        
Here ya go, Venus!!

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The pics are here! It's model number WC. Or should I say 'model letter'? Did Frigidaire just have the shortest model designations ever?

Hmmm :-)



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Post# 60866 , Reply# 33   3/21/2005 at 23:18 (6,968 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        
Matching dryer

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No, Patrick, I completely agree, the set would look sharp as all heck--this is one of the few applications of woodgrain and kick-butt styling that works.

I'm just keen on the Filtrators...but I'll definitely keep my eyes peeled. :-) Frigidaires love friends.



Post# 60886 , Reply# 34   3/22/2005 at 02:00 (6,968 days old) by kenmore1978 ()        
model lineup

So where is this model in the hierarchy of 1-18 models? Year?

Post# 60889 , Reply# 35   3/22/2005 at 02:52 (6,968 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        
Wow very nice.

What a great find, I am so glad you saved it. alr2903.

Post# 60895 , Reply# 36   3/22/2005 at 08:01 (6,967 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        

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Thanks alr2903 :-)

Kenmore1978, I'd love to know too, especially since it seems that every 1-18 I've ever seen is different from the next.

Does anyone know? I'd love to find out :-)


Post# 60896 , Reply# 37   3/22/2005 at 08:02 (6,967 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        

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The serial is 70EJ 7323, if that can be decoded...

Post# 60950 , Reply# 38   3/22/2005 at 16:36 (6,967 days old) by Repair-man (Pittsburgh PA)        

It happens all the time. Possibly the dryer broke and they bought a new set. Or someone moves into a new house and has their own machines. Or move into a house and decide to start with new ones. You know the thinking, "I'll buy a new GE washer & dryer now so I don't have any problems later"

Anyway, it's a great find. I don't know why I don't see any of these. I've been in the appliance business for close to 20 years and could count on one hand the number of GM Frigidaires I've come across.

Ed


Post# 60965 , Reply# 39   3/22/2005 at 17:27 (6,967 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
Model Year Info

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I'll see what I can dig up on your model as far as the year and any other info I can find when I get home and look through my "files" tonight!

Post# 60977 , Reply# 40   3/22/2005 at 18:20 (6,967 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        

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Yay!! Thanks, Patrick!

Post# 61002 , Reply# 41   3/22/2005 at 23:39 (6,967 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
1975 Model Year

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After comparing details from my 72, 74, and 76 Tech-Talk manuals I am pretty sure your model WC is a 1975 model. It is comparable in every detail to the 1976 WC-6 (which is a Crown model) except the WC control panel has a black background as opposed to the WC-6 having a chrome one against a teak wood applique. The only other difference is the WC-6 has the glass window in the lid and the WC doesn't. Mechanically they should be the same (cycles, speeds, options). Go to the link below and then type in WC-6 (include the dash) in the Model Number box. Then click on the blue numbers under WC-6 and it will open a .pdf document. This is the only model I can find online that would give you Use and Care Instructions that would apply to your machine.

Hope you find this useful. Have fun!

Here's a picture of a set that got away. I hope they found a good home.


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Post# 61007 , Reply# 42   3/23/2005 at 00:01 (6,967 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        
You are fantastic!!

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Patrick, I went to the Frigidaire site earlier today in the vain hopes that I could find a manual for my WC...but since it wants 3 digits minimum, WC-6, as you said, did the trick! Thank you SO much--the manual is very informative :-)

Thank you again for all your help!


Post# 61009 , Reply# 43   3/23/2005 at 00:07 (6,967 days old) by kenmore1978 ()        
I wonder if

Fabric softener dispenser for it can be had.

Post# 61011 , Reply# 44   3/23/2005 at 00:13 (6,967 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        

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kenmore1978, I wondered the exact same thing :-P

(Or the elusive bleach and dye dispenser...)

...I'm such a slave to automatic dispensers :-P

According to the manual Patrick pointed out, a fabric softener dispenser can be had for an extra charge from your Frigidaire dealer. Hey, they had the manual--maybe I should ask for a dispenser? LOL


Post# 61012 , Reply# 45   3/23/2005 at 00:14 (6,967 days old) by kenmore1978 ()        
WCI Monster

As much as we malign WCI, have to give them credit for actually making the effort to put those old manuals for stuff that was vefore their time in PDF format. A lot of companies would've just thrown it out, or only done products made after they took over.

Post# 61013 , Reply# 46   3/23/2005 at 00:14 (6,967 days old) by scott55405 ()        

Roto, I don't know how I missed this thread up to now. Congratulations on a truly wonderful machine. I will email you.

Jaune, I have a 1-18 fabric softener dispenser, new in the box.


Post# 61014 , Reply# 47   3/23/2005 at 00:15 (6,967 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        
Oooh ooh ooh!

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Hiya Scott!! I'll be looking forward to the e-mail!

Jaune, if you don't want the dispenser, I'll nab it :-P You get first dibs, though :-)


Post# 61015 , Reply# 48   3/23/2005 at 00:20 (6,967 days old) by kenmore1978 ()        
fabric softener dispenser

I don't need one, was thinking of roto204 needing one.

Post# 61018 , Reply# 49   3/23/2005 at 00:27 (6,967 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        

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Yay yay yay! I'd love that. Thanks Jaune--thanks Scott--Scott, e-mail me when you have a chance! :-P

Post# 61019 , Reply# 50   3/23/2005 at 00:29 (6,967 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        

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Glad you liked the information I gave. I had a lot of fun looking into it for you and everyone else here. I find I can't get enough of this stuff sometimes. Crazy, huh!

Patrick


Post# 61020 , Reply# 51   3/23/2005 at 00:30 (6,967 days old) by scott55405 ()        

Yes, Kenmore 1978 has a Kenmore (how ironic is that!) so he doesn't need a fs dispenser. I just thought I'd mention I had one, since he brought it up. (LOL)

Post# 61024 , Reply# 52   3/23/2005 at 02:02 (6,967 days old) by kenmore1978 ()        
FS dispenser

As a matter o fact, I have an agitator mount FS dispenser that ame with the replacement DA agitator, but since my machine has a Triple Dispenser, it wasn't needed. Anyone who wants it can have it, no charge except postage.

Post# 61049 , Reply# 53   3/23/2005 at 10:30 (6,966 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
1975 Model Year

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I am so surprised that WCI still has this information on the website after all these years.
Well anyway it is good information to know!
Peter



Post# 61721 , Reply# 54   3/30/2005 at 15:23 (6,959 days old) by maytagluver ()        
1-18 info

Greetings, regarding the age of the machine...I recently got a 1-18 w/d from a co-worker. They were in her home she just purchased.

The manuals were with the machines, the washer was bought in June of 1977 and the dryer in '78.

I used the washer for the 1st time today, what a blast, ya know, JET ACTION, blast, soorrrry!!
Anyhow, if you wish, I could copy the user manual for your reading pleasure, has some kewl photos!!!

Lemme know ... Al :D




Post# 61814 , Reply# 55   3/31/2005 at 01:16 (6,959 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        

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Hi, Al!

Thanks very much for the manual offer--e-mail me sometime--I'd like to see a better facsimile of one of the originals than what Frigidaire currently has on their site (DON'T get me wrong, I'm VERY, VERY grateful to them for archiving information online for machines that they didn't even produce in their current incarnation, but it's a funky photocopy of a photocopy of a photocopy, if you know what I mean).

Thanks very much, and take good care! :-D


Post# 61817 , Reply# 56   3/31/2005 at 05:58 (6,959 days old) by richm (Pompano Beach, FL)        
Congratulations Nate

The 1-18 is a great machine. I bought one new (poppy red) in 1975, it was the same model as the same machine you now have. In fact, thanks to GregM, I now have another 1/18, this time in white. Thanks also to Coldspot66 for a copy of the repair manual! I still love using it, leaks a slight bit, have to check that out. Nate, it looks like from your photos that you have the bleach dispenser, is that true? I'm still looking for the bleach and fabric softener dispensers, as well as the circle fill tubing. If anyone has ideas, please let me know.

Rich


Post# 61849 , Reply# 57   3/31/2005 at 10:22 (6,958 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        

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Hi Rich!

Yes, huge thanks also go out to Coldspot66 for the repair manual (the check for postage and such is wandering out today)--it's AMAZING, and emphasizes Frigidaire's unusual and innovative mechanisms.

I only have the standard detergent dispenser in my 1-18; I'm working on that :-) Insofar as other parts go, I'm currently at a loss; I'll have to see if another one shows up around here :-)

Enjoy your poppy (yes, mine occasionally leaks a little bit in weird places, but sometimes it doesn't--I think that's part of the charm), and I'll be looking forward to chatting with ya in the future! :-D


Post# 61939 , Reply# 58   4/1/2005 at 17:35 (6,957 days old) by jimmyb (Texas Y’all)        
Hi Nate!

Nate:

Congrats on such a great find and I saw you just picked up a Maytag center dial (one of my favorite designs).

We used to be a Frigidaire family (Dad worked for GM). We had replaced our old Fridaire with an 1-18 when I was in 3rd grade. I remember my excitement with the first load seeing the ring of water when it first filled. My mom used the softner dispenser quite a bit but after that became to loose and did not stay attached she just left the regular cap off as well. Whenever I had the chance to help with laundry I would put it back on, but it seemed to come right back off when I wasn't looking. I have no idea why she didn't like it.

Congrats once again and I can't wait to see pictures of your new find!


Post# 62011 , Reply# 59   4/2/2005 at 12:33 (6,956 days old) by programcomputer (Ann Arbor Michigan, USA)        
Consumer Reports Washing Machine Test Buying Guide Issue, 19

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Hi,

Just wanted to post some things that CR talked about via Frigidaire. First off, in this issue; which covered pages 62-66, no pictures, but a wealth of information about machines from that point, with the machine used for the test FROM Frigidaire was a model WC.

In the beginning text, they mentioned very little about the old GM Frigi' design, except it was the noisiest machine tested, with the Kenmore model 26701, being the quietest.

The 1-18 was deeemed acceptable by CR at that point, ranking just under the Maytag Model A-608 that was tested at the same time. So anyway here's what they said about the Frigidaire WC:

FRIGIDAIRE WC (Frigidaire Div., General Motors Corp., Dayton Ohio)$326 ($285 to $370). 44 1/4 (53 1/2)by 27 by 28 in.

ADVANTAGES: Durable Press Laundering among the most effective of the group. Wide, continuous range of fill levels can be preset. Knit cycle can be preset for any agitation and spin-speed combinations available on durable press cycle. Has bleach dispenser. Access for servicing better than most.

DISADVANTAGES: Durable Press Cycle used more water than most. Noisy during agitation. May require low-sudsing detergent. Has "Bed-of-nails" lint filter, judged inconvienent to clean. END.

In the graphs, it shows the machine with some different traits about the 1-18 washer ,compared to others...:

With a Regular Cycle hot wash , and cold rinse; the machine used 22 gallons of hot water and 22 gallons of cold water, with four gallons consumed in a spray rinse. The entire cycle time from start to finish is a lengthy 42 minutes.

The "winner" so to speak in this category of the shortest cycle time was of course the Maytag A-608. The "looser", with the longest of all regular cycle time was the Kelvinator model AW-1820, and no not a Centric Action machine, by this point a totally badge engineered WCI monster.

For the Durable Press Cycle, it used 11 gallons of warm water and 54 gallons of cold water. For a grand total of 65 gallons of water on this cycle. Maximum cycle time for this Frigidaire was less than the regular cycle at 39 minutes.

It's okay tho in water consumption in 1978, The "winner" was the White-Westinghouse LT570P Front Load washer, comin in at a skant 29 gallons, found to be fairly effective of a machine also at durable press, and only had a cycle time of 42 minutes; but the "looser" of this category in water consumption, and time spent; was the Whirlpool LDA 5800 consuming a whopping 78 gallons for this entire cycle, and also had the longest cycle time at 50 minutes.

The Frigidaire had two agitations/spin combo's available for the durable press washes, a : Normal/Slow, Slow/Slow and for temperature combinations allowed H/W , H/C , W/C , C/C.

It's also worth to note that there were quite a few machines in this report including:

Maytag A-608, Frigidiare WC, Gibson WA18D4WG, Norge LWA2550, Wards CatNo.6327, Western Auto Citation 2550, Whirlpool LDA5800, White-Westinghouse LT570P, Kelvinator AW1820, Sears Kenmore CatNo.26701, Hamilton WA386, White-Westinghouse LA495P (Top load model), Hotpoint WLW3500P and Speed Queen FA4130.

All of the machines listed were ranked from good to poor quality or performance by the powers that be by CR in 1978. Also many of these machines as we know were one in the same, and by the 1980's, CR was reduced to just saying "same as moel stated above", ususally induced to saying so for anything from WCI at that point.

Chad


Post# 62148 , Reply# 60   4/4/2005 at 15:22 (6,954 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        

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Thanks, Chad and Jimmy! I'll post pics of the "newbie" soon.

LOL It appears that I may have two of the contestants from the Consumer Reports ranking sitting side-by-side.

I can see where the Maytag has its strong points (not to mention the fact that it looks so nice!), and the Frigidaire is certainly full of quirks...but it's just so darn much fun!

Thanks for the info! :-)


Post# 62169 , Reply# 61   4/4/2005 at 20:45 (6,954 days old) by Kevintpreston ()        

Roto...

I have the reverse problem. If I come home with any piece of furniture other than Heywood-Wakefield, my wife goes ballistic. She would probably love the pink or orange one!!!!


Post# 62196 , Reply# 62   4/5/2005 at 00:28 (6,954 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        
LOL!!

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Hi Kevin!

Yes, it's always something. In our house, metal and glass rule; wood must be carefully scrutinized before purchasing. Needless to say, pink and coppertone appliances get stopped dead in their tracks before they ever make it in the door... :-P


Post# 62207 , Reply# 63   4/5/2005 at 02:56 (6,954 days old) by kenmore1978 ()        
Heywood-Wakefield

was also know for supplying seating for transit vehicles like streetcars, buses, and subway cars


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