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| Post# 265151 2/15/2008 at 19:05 (5,907 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
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| Post# 265153 , Reply# 1 2/15/2008 at 19:06 (5,907 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
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He's a little out of control | ||
| Post# 265154 , Reply# 2 2/15/2008 at 19:08 (5,907 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
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OMG it's the KDS18 | ||
| Post# 265155 , Reply# 3 2/15/2008 at 19:10 (5,907 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
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This is... | ||
| Post# 265156 , Reply# 4 2/15/2008 at 19:12 (5,907 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
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Even the Neighbors heard about it | ||
| Post# 265157 , Reply# 5 2/15/2008 at 19:15 (5,907 days old) by hoover1060 () | ||
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beautiful machine! Always nice to hear of dreams coming true too! | ||
| Post# 265160 , Reply# 6 2/15/2008 at 19:23 (5,907 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
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This Machine ... | ||
| Post# 265161 , Reply# 7 2/15/2008 at 19:25 (5,907 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
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| Post# 265162 , Reply# 8 2/15/2008 at 19:27 (5,907 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
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I just love this machine. | ||
| Post# 265163 , Reply# 9 2/15/2008 at 19:30 (5,907 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
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Just love this machine. | ||
Post# 265165 , Reply# 10 2/15/2008 at 19:53 (5,907 days old) by frigilux  (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Post# 265166 , Reply# 11 2/15/2008 at 19:59 (5,907 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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| Post# 265167 , Reply# 12 2/15/2008 at 20:01 (5,907 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
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I had a ... | ||
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Post# 265168 , Reply# 13 2/15/2008 at 20:01 (5,907 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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| Post# 265169 , Reply# 14 2/15/2008 at 20:04 (5,907 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
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Thanks appnut. | ||
| Post# 265182 , Reply# 16 2/15/2008 at 22:46 (5,907 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.) | ||
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My grandmother had that Kitchenaid, and my mother had almost exactly that Kenmore model, but had to leave it behind when the house was sold. Have a good one, James | ||
| Post# 265200 , Reply# 17 2/16/2008 at 06:21 (5,907 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
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You know...
With the upper rack being able to tilt, and move up and down, who needs a tall tub ? Last nights load came out absolutely flawless. Sparkling clean and very dry. With that Flow thru drying heater and fan even the plastics were 99% dry. What a thrill to see some of the light weight plastics flipped over from so much water pressure. Today I start tearing down the KD2-P. The drain valve should be here on Monday. | ||
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Post# 265565 , Reply# 19 2/18/2008 at 21:03 (5,904 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT) |
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Eddie | ||
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Post# 265635 , Reply# 21 2/19/2008 at 09:25 (5,904 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Tom, is that SANI rinse at 155 in the later machines after the 18 series? The sani temp thermostat in the 18 is 180 and I've checked the water in the machine and it's pretty close to 180 when it kicks back into circulation. When that 180'ish water hits the cooler dishes, it would certainly cool off quickly, but I guess that's better than a final rinse of far less with cooler water in the lines coming in for that final rinse. You are lucky that that you have hotter water at the sink, with my Whirlpool water heater (blech!) and the long run from the tank to the tap in the kitchen, the water cools considerably depsite insulated pipes. The sani cycle hold time for my 18 was more like 15-20 minutes to reach the 180 cutoff. I wish the water was circulating during the sani-heating phase, but that would probably add about an hour to the cycle time at 180 degrees and the lower wattage heater. A friend of mine ran an assisted living facility for a small number of people, we replaced a beat-to-within an inch of it's life KDS-17 with a Maytag in the kitchen. Back when they put in the KA, that was the only machine that was acceptable by the board of health for that application and met sanitation qualifications. Now there are many to choose from, Maytag just happened to be the least expensive. When his grandfathered exemptions were taken away by the state in the old house he ran the facility in and he closed the home, we moved that nearly new Maytag to his house. | ||
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Post# 265637 , Reply# 22 2/19/2008 at 09:38 (5,904 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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KitchenAid!
Hi Tom, I am surprised at the drop in temperature in the 18 series. I also thought in the 18 that the sani rinse was supposed to heat to 180. Is that false advertising? I can't figure out why they changed the 19 series so drastically. They should have just made the main wash heat to 140. They never did get rid of that first water fill heating in the rest of the models. Doesn't make sense. In the ISE models they had the best system. It would always heat the main wash to 140 unless you used energy saver wash. I don't know why KA didn't do the same thing. Peter | ||
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Post# 265639 , Reply# 23 2/19/2008 at 09:44 (5,904 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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KitchenAid Series!
Hi Greg, The 19 series heated the first and last rinse to 150 also running the heater at 700 watts during the main wash. All were sani cycles. The 20 series heated the first rinse to 150 and only the last rinse if you selected the sani cycle. But in the 20 series the sani cycle was supposed to be 165 in the last rinse. By the 22 series they changed the first water fill to heat to 140. Peter | ||
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Post# 265908 , Reply# 24 2/20/2008 at 16:37 (5,902 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA) |
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| Post# 265926 , Reply# 25 2/20/2008 at 18:10 (5,902 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
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Yes, he's up set
Kenwhirl has been set in the back ground. He hasn't been used in two weeks. KDS (which will get a name later,) has been the daily driver. Can't get enough of that machine. KD2 which has just been restored is parked right next to KDS and has just completed her 3 rd water test and is fabulous.Flow thru Drying fan just humming away. NO LEAKS. !!!!!!!! I don't know what the distinction is between the genders but it's a gut feeling. KD2 is Kaydee, Mobile Maid is Maidee, Kenwhirl is a guy, And KDS I guess just has to be named Superba as she is.That's just how I feel. 
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Post# 265966 , Reply# 26 2/21/2008 at 00:48 (5,902 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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Just picked up a black KDS-18 tonight. Well-used, but still functional (according to the seller). Hey, it cost me as much in gas to go get her as the selling price ;-). It did come with an owner's manual. There's a bit of rust around one of the mounts for the sump heater. Don't think it leaks, just yet, but I'm thinking it may need some preventative treatment to try to keep it from getting worse. Wonder if JB Weld would hold at 180F...? Worst case it will be a parts donor for a fresher unit. It is a looker from the outside, though, the black, chrome, stainless, and faux burl wood grain look great. | ||
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Post# 265967 , Reply# 27 2/21/2008 at 01:06 (5,902 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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KDS18 | ||
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Post# 266014 , Reply# 29 2/21/2008 at 13:00 (5,901 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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Tom, Thanks. It's surface rust on the rear mount. The front mount is a bit worse, I see some rust bubbling there. I'll try to snap a few photos when I get home tonight to illustrate the situation. Overall, the dishwasher is very attractive, but shows signs of wear. Chrome thinned out on handle, for example. Couple of lower rack prongs are broken off, nothing major. Upper rack in very good shape. Pete, I'll see what I can do with a scan. Might take a few days. | ||
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