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Thread Number: 15995
American Made Junk! |
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| Post# 267423 , Reply# 1 3/1/2008 at 13:55 (5,889 days old) by timonator () | ||
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Hmmm maybe its this Belt? 30 years!!! hmmm another example of poor american quality ..probably made by goodyear or someone 
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| Post# 267424 , Reply# 2 3/1/2008 at 14:00 (5,889 days old) by timonator () | ||
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Or this Rusty Clutch and Motor Ge should have painted this Theres nuthing worse than an old rusty clutch under your washer 
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| Post# 267425 , Reply# 3 3/1/2008 at 14:02 (5,889 days old) by timonator () | ||
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A New Belt and a Motor/Clutch seem to be the easy way out Im going to tear the old clutch apart when I get time I think the whole problem was the Belt Anyhow 
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| Post# 267427 , Reply# 4 3/1/2008 at 14:04 (5,889 days old) by timonator () | ||
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Had to go get some lunch! I had to drive Two miles to burger King in this Unreliable Amercian Truck Luckily it was such a short distance 
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| Post# 267428 , Reply# 5 3/1/2008 at 14:06 (5,889 days old) by timonator () | ||
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Ohhh Look at the Time This old American Clock still keeps time 
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| Post# 267429 , Reply# 6 3/1/2008 at 14:08 (5,889 days old) by timonator () | ||
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Time for Some Music Nothing Like a Philco!!! Oh wait..Those are American made too! 
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| Post# 267431 , Reply# 7 3/1/2008 at 14:10 (5,889 days old) by timonator () | ||
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Clean up Time! Mother allways taught me to clean up after myself So out comes the Old American Made Electrolux.. I just made the last payment on it lol 
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| Post# 267432 , Reply# 8 3/1/2008 at 14:12 (5,889 days old) by timonator () | ||
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Life is GOOD! in a matter of a couple hours everything is back to normal! 
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| Post# 267433 , Reply# 9 3/1/2008 at 14:15 (5,889 days old) by timonator () | ||
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The Dryer Im sure The High Speed Dryer will Appreciate the washer improvements! I know my electric company wont LOL . OK..OK I wont go on any longer But Please ..Try to support our amercian companies The job you save may be your Own!! 
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| Post# 267434 , Reply# 10 3/1/2008 at 14:16 (5,889 days old) by timonator () | ||
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It Would have been a perfect Saturday HA...Until I realized..In all this exictment I WASHED my WALLET!!! Damn....LOL | ||
| Post# 267438 , Reply# 11 3/1/2008 at 15:15 (5,889 days old) by rickr (.) | ||
Well... Thats keeping it real, if you are living in Ohio! Older items were built much better in first place, no matter where they came from. It is just a different world today. Would you want a new General Electric washer? Today so many parts come from all over the world, and the parts may be assembled most anywhere to make most any item. I do not like all items being imported from China, because most are of substandard quality. Now they are talking about taking a second look at N.A.F.T.A. Well.... that fine, however that agreement only covered North America anyway. The global trade is here to stay. How things are changed for the future will determine who is the next "superpower" of nations. If I purchase Cadillac instead of a Lexus, it still will not make much of a difference in jobs here in the US. (btw, I own a cadillac) Many of the parts that make up my Caddy were not even made in the US. Nice Filter-Flo and great repair job! May it give you many more decades of trouble free service. | ||
Post# 267449 , Reply# 13 3/1/2008 at 17:46 (5,889 days old) by goatfarmer  (South Bend, home of Champions) |
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"And I blame this entirely on Japaneese Made Products or China or Korea.. Nothing against those country or people its just time for people to stop dogging american made products and support their neighbors..Yes Ohio has been hit hard by NAFTA but I do think it can be fixed Its all up to the people! " You can put part of the blame on the American people wanting their products to be inexpensive. They want to buy things that don't cost much, until it comes to their job. Then they want to make as much money, and benefits, as they can. You can't have it both ways. | ||
| Post# 267463 , Reply# 14 3/1/2008 at 18:59 (5,889 days old) by brent-aucoin () | ||
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Very entertaining post! Glad you got your FilterFlo up and Flowing again! Brent | ||
| Post# 267491 , Reply# 17 3/1/2008 at 21:01 (5,889 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area) | ||
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So Tim, what was the problem with the slo spin of the GE washer? Belt? Clutch? Both? Please tell! Either way, Im glad you fixed it! American parts on an American quality machine, repaired by American know how! | ||
| Post# 267504 , Reply# 21 3/1/2008 at 22:00 (5,889 days old) by tuthill () | ||
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Haha, I don't know where the japanese washing machines are. I apologize about the off topic rant, it just happens I'm very opionated about that stuff, and when it cames to liking cars and dirtbikes I didn't believe I was the only one for 18 years!!! | ||
| Post# 267508 , Reply# 22 3/1/2008 at 22:26 (5,889 days old) by timonator () | ||
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I found one! Japaneese vintage washing machine 
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| Post# 267509 , Reply# 23 3/1/2008 at 22:28 (5,889 days old) by timonator () | ||
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Its a real miser when it comes to water use! It does at least 40 loads per gallon 
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| Post# 267513 , Reply# 24 3/1/2008 at 22:30 (5,889 days old) by timonator () | ||
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Indestructable Transmission! No troublesome belts and clutches to wear out! 
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| Post# 267515 , Reply# 25 3/1/2008 at 22:31 (5,888 days old) by timonator () | ||
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Heheeeee! I'm sorry Guys but I just couldnt resist! I dont think this was made in Japan after all! 
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| Post# 267517 , Reply# 26 3/1/2008 at 22:37 (5,888 days old) by rickr (.) | ||
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Hi Tim, While I feel as though this topic should be in "Super" by now, I still have one last question for you. When I stated that I owned a Cadillac rather than an "import" car, you made this statement: "Glad you drive a Caddy. Because at least I know some Fat Cat at General Motors is getting Rich!" With all due respect, I do not really understand the meaning of that statement, as Cadillac has always been an American built brand. Could you please explain? | ||
| Post# 267525 , Reply# 28 3/1/2008 at 23:17 (5,888 days old) by rickr (.) | ||
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Cool Tim! I do understand now. I had not heard that "Fat Cat" slang being used that way before. It may be Ohio slang, because of all the factory jobs that have been lost there in the past few years. I will be helping out, knocking on doors this fall in Paulding County Ohio for Clinton, or Obama. If you want to try to help your state, you could do the same. I have helped out in Ohio for the last few election cycles. People come to Ohio from all over the country (and Canada too) to help out on both sides. Ohio is a VERY important battleground state. I hope we can turn it BLUE this time around. | ||
| Post# 267526 , Reply# 29 3/1/2008 at 23:18 (5,888 days old) by tuthill () | ||
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i'm laughing | ||
| Post# 267560 , Reply# 30 3/2/2008 at 07:08 (5,888 days old) by saltysam () | ||
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GASP! is that towels in with the jeans? | ||
| Post# 267606 , Reply# 33 3/2/2008 at 14:44 (5,888 days old) by bpetersxx (laf in on the banks of the Wabash River) | ||
washing the wallet  | ||
| Post# 267730 , Reply# 35 3/3/2008 at 10:10 (5,887 days old) by fa_f3_20 () | ||
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I have a lot less sympathy for certain American factory workers since the time I got hassled by some UAW members because they thought my Saturn was a foreign car. Idiots. | ||
| Post# 267731 , Reply# 36 3/3/2008 at 10:12 (5,887 days old) by fa_f3_20 () | ||
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BTW, Timonator, if you ever go off and leave your front door unlocked, that clock is mine! | ||
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Post# 267758 , Reply# 37 3/3/2008 at 15:13 (5,887 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions) |
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| Post# 267759 , Reply# 38 3/3/2008 at 15:20 (5,887 days old) by jaxsunst () | ||
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Well, the new Saturns are rebadged Opels. But, a few years ago when they were American made people thought the were foreign. I had one of the first SL's. It was a great car. | ||
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Post# 267770 , Reply# 40 3/3/2008 at 18:17 (5,887 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA) |
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Post# 267793 , Reply# 42 3/3/2008 at 21:14 (5,887 days old) by arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia) |
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And here is a Toshiba too. From the late 70's. 
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| Post# 267795 , Reply# 44 3/3/2008 at 21:18 (5,887 days old) by rickr (.) | ||
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Engine trouble???
I worked at the Cadillac dealer in the early 1980's We replaced the 4100 engine in some new Cadillacs with as little as 4,000 miles on them. Customers were NOT happy, even though the parts and labour were covered by the warrentee. Every one of the cars built from 1982 to 1986 came back for major engine repairs/replacement sooner or later. Many Cadillac customers purchased other brands because of their car problems with these models, and some NEVER did come back. (me in the suit, btw) 
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Post# 267816 , Reply# 48 3/4/2008 at 02:22 (5,886 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains) |
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Actually,
Europeans are very profit oriented. The ROI in Germany is higher than in the US, and has been historically, not just right now. The difference is, I think, in the mentality. Until the post-WWII era, Americans were very much of the "mend it, fix it, make it work or do without" mentality. This shows in so very many high quality products which we love in our club. In the post war era, very slowly at first, but like any untreated cancer, spreading faster and ever faster, the concept of built-in obsolescence took root. Manufacturers and marketing succeeded in convincing consumers that it is 'normal' for durable goods to only last a few years. I know that there is a real sense of anger and frustration about 'foreign made' goods in the US. The problem is, however, not us nasty foreigners selling you higher quality goods at lower prices. The problem is the way Americans let their companies outsource to slave labor markets. The problem is the way American companies stopped creating value in the US. The problem is the technical, sorry, but there is no other way to say it - the technical backwardness of so many US industries compared to the rest of the world. The problem is, as GM has so poignantly stated before Congress, while folks worry that universal health insurance is socialism, American companies are going bankrupt trying to carry this responsibility on their own shoulders while competing against us nasty foreigners who can produce cars of equal or better quality for less because our society spends less on health care... OK, time to stop before this turns into a rant. I started this post mentioning that we are very profit oriented in Europe. We are. Universal health care is cheaper and better for business and workers than endless debates. Our students don't have free college here, but anyone who has the ability and desire to study is encouraged and industry together with society finds a way for them to. America has to import scientists and engineers because education is only for the very wealthy in the US. Sure, we are also suffering from the young-dynamic-manager 'screw the shareholders, screw the workers, screw the customers' mentality. But there is a basic consensus here that profit is good and the way to make profit is to have a good product, made by middle class workers who have the security to spend their money on domestic goods. As long as folks in the US suffer from knee-jerk 'but that is socialism!' mentality, American workers and consumers are going to continue to suffer. There is no lack of brains, courage and skill in the US. But there is a genuine lack of support for both investors (see our higer ROI) and workers (no health care, no affordable education). High quality goods won't return until people wake up and take a good, hard look at why us nasty Europeans are winning the capitalist sweepstakes. The basis of capitalism is pragmatism. Americans were once the pragmatists of the world. Now, every idea which works elsewhere is rejected as 'socialist' or not conservative or Christian. Well, off me soapbox. My US made clock (1924) just chimed the quarter hour and I have to get going. Such poor quality, she loses nearly half a minute a month. Sheesh... CLICK HERE TO GO TO panthera's LINK | ||
| Post# 267845 , Reply# 53 3/4/2008 at 12:20 (5,886 days old) by tuthill () | ||
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I don't think it's the end of the world if a thread goes off-topic, besides, it's really interesting. If people want to discus things then I think they should go right along and do just that. Note the name, DISCUSS-o-mat. | ||
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Post# 267860 , Reply# 54 3/4/2008 at 13:41 (5,886 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains) |
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Sorry, fa f3 20,
I grew up in the US, did my first degree in the US and, yes, my family and I paid for it. Both my parents sacrificed a lot to put me through school and I worked full time, studied full time and paid back some of my student loans teaching in Brooklyn. It was not much fun having body guards escort us to and from our classrooms, but even at 6'2" and way too 'butch' to fcuk with, my students knew I was just as well armed as they were...and they knew I wasn't paid enough to put up with any shit. I daresay that gives me the right to take issue with your statements. Teaching at a technical university here in Munich, I have the opportunity both to speak to the young American students who study abroad as well as to my colleagues and industry representatives in the US. I can only assume you are unaware of of the situation for college students in the US currently. Although real incomes have *fallen* since my graduation in 1982, tuition at my state university (a quite good one but not Ivy League) has gone up by a factor of 10. It is by no means one of the more expensive universities for engineering. It is nice to be all patriotic and pretend that things are just fine and dandy, but maybe you should sit down and take a look at how things really are for the average American right now and not for people of privilege. Germany, by the way, does not tell students what they have to study, we simply recognize that by educating our young people to their full potential we are in a better position to make a profit. | ||
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Post# 267864 , Reply# 55 3/4/2008 at 14:07 (5,886 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains) |
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Probably, | ||
| Post# 267878 , Reply# 56 3/4/2008 at 17:05 (5,886 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago) | ||
Panthera, What you said was harsh, but you were also on the right track i think. I am halfway through grad school at NIU...the school that just had the 2nd campus shooting here. I think anyone who doesn't see that the U.S. in some sort of tailspin, mild or severe, is ignorant. Our currency is falling, prices of everything's going up. Our health care is a laughing stock, our manufacturing base is drying up like a puddle in the Sahara. I have a buddy who has also lived in Germany, Italy and Russia. And the things you said, he has also said. The E.U. in general strives to be self sufficient and innovative for the common good of its whole society, in general of course. The U.S. clearly does NOT do that. It is very much a dog eat dog world here. Some of us are doing fine, an ever increasing amount of us are NOT doing so well right now. I've said this to alot of friends my age group, and they generally agree (Born in the early 80's) that we will be the first generation (with others following) that will NOT have it better than our parents. Think about that. Think about the American dream. Something's wrong. And I don't think we have the intellect or the leadership to currently fix it. This country is f*&^#d if it doesn't wake up soon. BTW, I HOPE I am proven very wrong. | ||
| Post# 268018 , Reply# 60 3/5/2008 at 15:32 (5,885 days old) by thirtyater () | ||
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Food for thought.... Well said everyone! Timonator, I just wonder if that was American beef you ate at BK on your American day out??? | ||
| Post# 268052 , Reply# 62 3/5/2008 at 20:51 (5,885 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago) | ||
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| Post# 268082 , Reply# 67 3/5/2008 at 23:12 (5,884 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago) | ||
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Yes, the sense of entitlement just bewilders me. It goes against everything i believe and how i was raised. These last UAW union shenanigans really made me realize how profound the sense of entitlement is in the US, especially in the midwest. Nate, I was not using any hard facts for my assumptions. That's all they were, assumptions based on general "feelings" of things. One thing's for damn sure. Saving our money will either make or break my generation. We better learn how to do it or we're screwed. | ||
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