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Post# 268556   3/9/2008 at 00:27 (5,885 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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All:

Here are a couple pics of the first escapee from my storage trailer.

I realize that this vintage of Kenmore is not everyone'e first choice to be viewing, however this is the very machine that I bought for my sister in 1990 for her first apartment (she'd asked to borrow my 1986 Kenmores that were in storage and I said "no" because I am intensely fussy about how those machines are treated). I didn't want to leave her empty handed though while my machines were sitting idle, so I bought this washer and a matching dryer for her. I got the washer from a rebuilder/repairer and doing that infused the energy/drive in me to do the same, and thus started my hobby. I had always been fascinated with washers, but had only repaired my mother's washer once or twice.

So, I found it only fitting since I am expecting to reinvigorate my hobby now, that I start it again with the same machine that started it last time. This washer has been stored since 2000. My sister got over 10 years of use out of it, and when she replaced it with a new high line Kenmore DD, I had to have the washer back.

Today I worked on it for almost 7 hours. It's ready to wash laundry now, has new tub seals, centerpost gasket, water pump, belt, and I transplanted on a porcelain top that I scavenged years ago for this machine. For a 28 year old washer it looks pretty ok.

There will be more to come as I move on into some of the more interesting specimens in that trailer!





Post# 268558 , Reply# 1   3/9/2008 at 00:31 (5,885 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        
A look under the hood

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The porcelain top I had was from a machine with a bleach dispenser, but mine doesn't have one. Beggars can't be choosers though, and this piece is far better than the original acrylic enamel painted one, as it is beginning to do what all the acrylic parts do when the come in long term contact with water: rust.

Post# 268570 , Reply# 2   3/9/2008 at 05:58 (5,885 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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Looks great!

Post# 268572 , Reply# 3   3/9/2008 at 06:30 (5,885 days old) by funguy10 ()        

I like the Maytag-esque central-dail design. Also, our old washer (not the Oasis but the one we had before it) had a bleach dispenser. Of course the Oasis does too because the lid is always locked during operation.

Post# 268576 , Reply# 4   3/9/2008 at 07:51 (5,885 days old) by jons1077 (Vancouver, Washington, USA)        
Very cool!

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That's the washer I grew up with. I believe ours was from 1980/81. Ours did not have a bleach dispenser either but everything else is the same. I didn't like the DA agitator so I switched it out with a pentaswirl. Normal things that kids do right?

Post# 268599 , Reply# 5   3/9/2008 at 11:36 (5,885 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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These were great washers to grow up with. My machine is not supposed to have that bleach dispenser hole, however I took what I could find when I got that top. I usually fixed every machine that would be a decent top donor so when I came across this top already separated from the machine, I grabbed it.

My washer is indeed a 1980 vintage machine - made in week 16 of 1980 in fact. It was fun yesterday putting power to it for the first time in 8 years.


Post# 268603 , Reply# 6   3/9/2008 at 11:51 (5,885 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Your washer looks great - and good as new now as well! Will you find another home for it eventually or keep it as the "foundation" washer for your collection?

A neighbor of ours that had been washing for a family of five in a Hoover portable twinnie got this washer & matching dryer for her birthday from her mother. Her mother went to Sears to buy it for her and dodged suspicion by paying for it in the housewares department. Alice couldn't figure out what she was doing over there and then came home with nothing. The next day, the delivery truck pulled up and brought in this set. I was more excited than she was - this was when I fell in love with the Penta-Swirl...


Post# 268611 , Reply# 7   3/9/2008 at 12:36 (5,885 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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Thanks for the cool comment gansky!

I will likely keep that washer due to the sentimental value. In fact, I have a huge pile of work for it to do later today (been letting it pile up for two weeks).

I have another identical to it in the trailer, and one similar that has a penta-swirl (they're shown in the pics). Back in the day, they were EASY to find homes for. Now I worry that they'll be harder to place than the older stuff.

Sometimes the stories behind washers are as cool as the machines themselves! It must have been neat to see the look on your neighbor's face when she got her new machines.


Post# 268618 , Reply# 8   3/9/2008 at 14:15 (5,885 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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I just put a similar washer for sale on my floor. For the older BD Whirlpool's, and Kenmores, I can usually get $60-75.00 each for them. Usually get them for free, or no more than $5-10.00. I don't put anything into them, though, they have to work, or they get scrapped.

Post# 268627 , Reply# 9   3/9/2008 at 16:03 (5,885 days old) by jons1077 (Vancouver, Washington, USA)        
Crossover Kenmore

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Here's one of those interesting crossover Kenmore washers. I can't remember where someone mentioned it but this is that weird clothesguard. DD transmission and newer outer tub, etc., but old DA agitator and console. Pretty interesting.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO jons1077's LINK on Portland Craigslist


Post# 268628 , Reply# 10   3/9/2008 at 16:46 (5,885 days old) by mulls ()        
Large capacity

Hello friends,
What was the first year of large capacity KM/WP machines?
Tom


Post# 268632 , Reply# 11   3/9/2008 at 17:21 (5,885 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        
Re: Crossover washer

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Those were introduced in the 1983/84 time frame. Kenmore had belt-drive 24-inch machines that appeared similar immediately before that, and so when the DD hit the market they made them look the same, to match the large capacity belt drives that were still in production.

I remember being horrified by those machines!

Yes, that is the clothes guard. I mentioned that sometime last week regarding another post. Others may have as well.


Post# 268633 , Reply# 12   3/9/2008 at 17:27 (5,885 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        
First year of the big-tub Kenmores

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Tom -

I have been trying to figure that out for a while, but from what I can tell, it was sometime around 1967. There was one model from then until 1972, when there were two models, at least in the catalog. Not all models made the catalog though.

It was the 1974 line up that had two new agitators, and used gearcases in common with the standard tubs. Machines prior to that used Roto-Swirls or an odd straigh-vane on muscle meds. 1974 was the first year I think that the Lady K was a big-tub.

Prior to 1974 the large capacity machines were a supplement to the model line-up. Post '74, they were the major focus, though Kenmore sold many a machine in standard capacity for a number of years later.


Post# 268634 , Reply# 13   3/9/2008 at 17:28 (5,885 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        
To goatfarmer....

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Do a lot of belt drives still come in, working or not?

Post# 268638 , Reply# 14   3/9/2008 at 17:56 (5,885 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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I've been seeing quite a few of them lately, don't know why. The last 3 I picked up just needed minor things done, and cleaning. A few before that leaked through the center.

Post# 268641 , Reply# 15   3/9/2008 at 18:35 (5,885 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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The centerpost gasket is a common leak point in belt-drives, at least in later models, but I'm sure you already know that. I nearly always change them when working on a machine, leaky or not, because I know it will leak there eventually.

If you find anything interesting that you aren't going to put on your floor, how about letting me know? I might be able to give it a home!


Post# 268788 , Reply# 16   3/10/2008 at 17:28 (5,884 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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Will do! Describe interesting, though. I have a BD Lady Kenmore 90 series, in almond, in storage, I don't think I'll be doing anything with it. It has the dispensers in the top, IIRC, it didn't pump the water out.

Interesting like that?, Or something older?


Post# 268797 , Reply# 17   3/10/2008 at 18:35 (5,884 days old) by jons1077 (Vancouver, Washington, USA)        
oooh!

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That sounds like a nice machine! Penta-swirl agitator inside?

Post# 268799 , Reply# 18   3/10/2008 at 18:38 (5,884 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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If it's in good shape, that is VERY interesting to me. I am a belt-drive fan in general, early or late. I may actually be a little partial to the newer ones in SOME ways (ok, don't everyone cane me at once) because I was able to not only use one during the later days, but also own one new as well. I love the early stuff as well.

I just went scavenging today at a local "dealer / reseller" (that's southern speak for junk yard), and I found 8 belt drives there - I wanted them all, but most have been out in the sun for years.


Post# 268841 , Reply# 19   3/10/2008 at 21:40 (5,883 days old) by toggleswitch1 ()        

~Re: Crossover washer Those were introduced in the 1983/84 time frame. Kenmore had belt-drive 24-inch machines that appeared similar immediately before that, and so when the DD hit the market they made them look the same...


My mother just got rid of hers because it died. a 24" model from 1984. Never a repair till it died altogether. (coupler?)

She wanted a front-loader, so I didn't bother to even try to fix it. The allure of washing blankets, coats pillows, sneakers/tennis shoes i her own machine (without bringing them to me) was just too much for Mrs. Germ-o-phobe! But I digress......

For the life of me, I can't remember if it was a spin-drain or a neutral drain. For some odd reason I think it was a spin-drain model which, at the time, was extremely unusual for a Kenmore.


Post# 268843 , Reply# 20   3/10/2008 at 21:43 (5,883 days old) by toggleswitch1 ()        
Isn't getting old GRAND!

..and considering I was a renter without a washer for a number of years and would do 8 loads of laundry twice a month, for years, I am perplexed that I have forgotten.

Post# 268852 , Reply# 21   3/10/2008 at 22:28 (5,883 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)        
Toggleswitch:

My sister has a model just like that crossover washer in her guest house. It has that exact control panel, however it does not have that interior clothes guard. I do not know what year it is from exactly, but it must have been around 84, or 85, just before DD took over the inventory at Sears. It does neutral drain, so maybe your Mom's did too. Then again I don't know exactly the year of my sister's washer, or what year the DDs started using the neutral drain method.

Have a good one,
James


Post# 269036 , Reply# 22   3/11/2008 at 14:39 (5,883 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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Gordon, lemme see if I can get a pic of it. It's in the back of a storage barn, I haven't looked at it for about a year or so.

kennyGF



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