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Post# 269235   3/12/2008 at 10:48 (5,882 days old) by timon90 (Norway)        

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I've been working at Asko Elto Service this and last week, and I've seen MANY interesting machines! Here are a few of them:

The new Asko W6903, 1800rpm! Really amazing machine!




Post# 269236 , Reply# 1   3/12/2008 at 10:49 (5,882 days old) by timon90 (Norway)        

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Washing away!

Post# 269237 , Reply# 2   3/12/2008 at 10:51 (5,882 days old) by timon90 (Norway)        

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Asko 20605/AM60A Excellence Black/Yellow version! Great machine I replaced the brushes on!

Post# 269238 , Reply# 3   3/12/2008 at 10:52 (5,882 days old) by timon90 (Norway)        

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Asko 20605/AM60A Excellence Black/Yellow version! Great machine I replaced the brushes on!

Post# 269239 , Reply# 4   3/12/2008 at 10:54 (5,882 days old) by timon90 (Norway)        

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oops...2 of the same. Hehe.

And again:

Post# 269240 , Reply# 5   3/12/2008 at 10:58 (5,882 days old) by timon90 (Norway)        

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I also got anoter 20003, but it has defect electronic card. Trying to repair it. Lovely machine. This is the Excellence edition from 1991. The same machine as the one I already have, but oolder;)

Post# 269241 , Reply# 6   3/12/2008 at 11:06 (5,882 days old) by timon90 (Norway)        

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Other machine I've got from Asko, is:

11004
12004
AM52 x2
AM56A
D3900 Proffesional diswasher. (3 years old)

This is machines that should be throwed away, but since I know the peoples at Asko Elto Service so good, they said I could take the machines I wanted:D They said also I was a really good worker, and want me to work there when I can. Ex. in my holydays and so. :D

Post# 269243 , Reply# 7   3/12/2008 at 11:45 (5,882 days old) by passatdoc (Orange County, California)        
noise?

 What does the new Asko sound like when it's spinning at 1800 rpm? When I wash laundry in Sweden (at the homes of friends), it always sounds like a jet engine warming up during the final spin. I don't know the specs on the machine in Småland (one friend), but the one in Stockholm is a Bosch with I think 1400 or 1600 maximum final spin speed.

US size machines don't need to spin as fast to get the same water extraction. The centrifugal force varies with the sqaure of the redius, so a US machine with a basket 20% larger (diameter) than a Euro size machine will generate 44% more centrifugal force than the European machine at the same spin speed. As a result, 1000-1200 in the US will often result in clothing as dry as European washers with faster spin speeds.....and at lower speeds the washer does not sound like SAS or Norwegian Air Shuttle about to take off from Oslo Gardermoen Airport!

Post# 269247 , Reply# 8   3/12/2008 at 12:50 (5,882 days old) by timon90 (Norway)        

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Hehe....I only heard it spin at 1200rpm, but it's really quiet! It can be programmed to spin at 2000rpm! European washers does have a better washresult andenergyrate that USA machines! USA machines is REALLY "oldish"! Strange that they still are made.

Post# 269251 , Reply# 9   3/12/2008 at 13:37 (5,882 days old) by passatdoc (Orange County, California)        
heja

 Oops, I meant American FRONTLOADING machines....I did not mean toploading machines, of course they are obsolete and outdated.

My machine brand is Frigidaire, made and owned by Electrolux. I believe the machine is made in USA by a factory owned by Electrolux. It is front loading and spins at about 1000 rpm. Laundry comes out very clean...and DRY. However, it is larger than a European sized machine, 70 cm wide and too high to fit under a kitchen counter. The larger size generates more centrifugal force, so 1000 rpm on a big machine dries like 1400 rpm on a smaller machine.

Here is a list of their products

www.frigidaire.com/products/laund...

The prices you see listed are the "suggested price" but usually you can buy them for $150-200 less if you shop at a discount store like www.bestbuy.com... or www.lowes.com...

I believe Electrolux bought the Frigidaire brand so it could market its machines with a name very familiar in USA. When people see the name Electrolux, they think "vacuum cleaners", because no other products with the name Electrolux were sold in USA for many years. People had been buying Frigidaire washers for many years, but of course they were the old fashioned topload design.

One other difference between US and European frontloading washers: US machines fill from both cold and hot water lines. The heater on US machines is not used unless you select a temperature higher than what comes out of the hot water line (about 60-65 C or 140 F). If you select a temperature in the range of 30-60 C, the water enters the machine at the proper temperature, because it mixes water from both lines, and the machine beings to wash immediately. As a result, many machines can wash a load in 60 minutes or less.

If you select a higher temperature, then the heater must heat the water first to the correct temperature, and this can add 30-60 minutes extra to the wash time....US washers usually run on 120 V electricity, so there is not as much power flowing into the machine compared to Europe. When a high temperature is selected, the cycle can last two hours or more, more or less similar to European wash times.

Some of the more basic models do NOT have a heater, which is ok if you do not plan to wash at higher than 65 C. My washer does not have a heater and it works fine, but then it sits next to the house water heater and there is plenty of hot water available one meter away.

The models without heater cost several hundred dollars less than the heater models. Of course they would not work in a European setting with only a cold water line supply, but they do work here as long as you can live with having 65 C as the maximum wash temperature. All laundry areas in all homes less than 50 years old in US will include a laundry area with both hot and cold water lines. I enjoy the shorter wash times, because the machine does not have to heat the water, and when I wash clothes in Europe the two hour cycle times always drive me nuts.

PS some people in US will use European cold water fill washers (usually with 240 V service) in areas that were not originally meant to be laundry areas. For example, I know someone in New York City in an apartment who ran a cold water line into a large double closet and installed a Miele European sized machine. The apartment was built without a laundry area, the laundry room was in the basement and this person became tired of always having to go to the basement in an elevator to wash clothes.

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Post# 269252 , Reply# 10   3/12/2008 at 13:43 (5,882 days old) by passatdoc (Orange County, California)        
ps

 Where I live, front loading machines are sold more than top loading machines. In California, we must conserve water, so the government and water agencies of course want people to have front loading machines, which use less water. When I bought my washer, I received a $100 rebate (rabatt) from the county (lan) water agency. I also received $50 rebate from the company that supplies the natural gas to the house, since I heat water and dry clothes with natural gas, not electricity. Since front loading machines do a better job of drying the clothes during final spin, and because they use less gas-heated hot water, the gas company wants to encourage people to buy front loading machines.

In some parts of USA, water is abundant and there is not as much pressure to conserve water. Also, some parts of USA have electricity that costs half of what it costs in California, particularly areas with abundant hydro power and government-owned electricity companies (instead of private companies that make a profit). In such areas, people tend to use electricity to heat water and dry clothes, and since the power is cheaper, no one rewards the consumer who buys a more efficient front loading machine. I suppose the "reward" is lower monthly bills for electricity.

Post# 269264 , Reply# 11   3/12/2008 at 15:21 (5,882 days old) by mrx ()        

You really need to know the % residual moisture, not the spin speed.

E.g. my Hotpoint-Ariston Aqualtis does a 1600rpm spin and gets down to 38% residual moisture.

Post# 269297 , Reply# 12   3/12/2008 at 18:49 (5,882 days old) by shanonabc ()        

O...m... g I looooove the look of the new asko

Post# 269329 , Reply# 13   3/12/2008 at 22:13 (5,882 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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Electrolux of Sweeden is the owner of Frigidaire(as well as quite a few other brands in America, Europe and Asia)they have nothing to do with the well known American vacuum cleaner of the same name.For a while,they(Elec. of Sweed.) were selling their line of vacuum cleaners and missleading consumers, who knew no better,to buy theirs thinking they were the same traditional brand their grandparents swore by.

Post# 269344 , Reply# 14   3/12/2008 at 22:54 (5,882 days old) by arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)        
Beautiful!

 Thanks for sharing those pictures of the new Asko. A beautiful machine indeed!

Should be here in Australia soon...

Post# 269361 , Reply# 15   3/13/2008 at 02:18 (5,882 days old) by spiralator60 (Los Angeles)        
W6903

 Thanks for posting these pictures! What is the capacity of this machine?

Post# 269413 , Reply# 16   3/13/2008 at 11:11 (5,881 days old) by timon90 (Norway)        

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The capacity is 6KG. Sorry, it's not a W6903, but a W6983.

Post# 269492 , Reply# 17   3/13/2008 at 20:14 (5,881 days old) by passatdoc (Orange County, California)        
how well does it clean?

 Can the new Asko remove tough food stains? What if someone must cook a vat of lutefisk....will the Asko remove the horrid odor of the clothing worn while cooking the lutefisk?

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Post# 269994 , Reply# 18   3/16/2008 at 13:46 (5,878 days old) by timon90 (Norway)        

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Asko is the best! THats it:P:D

Post# 270039 , Reply# 19   3/16/2008 at 17:22 (5,878 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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What is the motor like on the new Asko?? does it use carbons or brushless??? any chance of a kwik pic?? I would love this with a matching dryer that had a window in it, would give Miele a run for their money on their W4 series machines...

The spin on the MaytAsko does sound like a jet engine but I rather like that for 9 mins or so...

Post# 270248 , Reply# 20   3/17/2008 at 04:00 (5,878 days old) by timon90 (Norway)        

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It uses a brushless motor! AND can be programmed to spin at 2000rpm!:D Cant take any more pic of it, cause some lucky guy out the bought it. And the dryer are not coming with glassdoor. They dont have window in the door because then it will be a problem to place the fluff filter.

Post# 270350 , Reply# 21   3/17/2008 at 16:06 (5,877 days old) by passatdoc (Orange County, California)        

If it can remove lutefisk odors then I will be very impressed.

Post# 270353 , Reply# 22   3/17/2008 at 16:25 (5,877 days old) by timon90 (Norway)        

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I'm pretty sure it does! I have a Asko DM36i at home, and it is shiny and clean EVERY time when I'm opening it at the end of programme.

Post# 270354 , Reply# 23   3/17/2008 at 16:30 (5,877 days old) by timon90 (Norway)        

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Sorry, I read wrong.... But yes, an Asko washer will clean the clothes clean and smellfree! Just use the right programme, and right temperature, combined with right detergent, and voila; good as new;)


ASKO WMC75PS PROFFESIONAL!

Post# 270378 , Reply# 24   3/17/2008 at 18:34 (5,877 days old) by passatdoc (Orange County, California)        

Jag är mycket imponerad med Asko. Men jag ätar lutefisk aldrig mer. (Lefse är ok).

"Oh Lutefisk"
Sung to the tune of "O Christmas Tree"

Oh Lutefisk, Oh Lutefisk, how fragrant your aroma,
Oh Lutefisk, Oh Lutefisk, you put me in a coma.
You smell so strong, you look like glue,
You taste yust like an overshoe,
But Lutefisk, come Saturday,
I tink I'll eat you anyway.

Oh Lutefisk, Oh Lutefisk, I put you by the doorway
I vanted you to ripen up, yust like dey do in Norway
A dog came by and sprinkled you, I hit him vit an army shoe
Oh Lutefisk, now I suppose
I'll eat you as I hold my nose.

Oh Lutefisk, Oh Lutefisk, how vell I do remember.
On Christmas Eve how we'd receive, our big treat of December
It vasn't turkey or fried ham, it vasn't even pickled spam
My mudder knew dere vas no risk,
In serving buttered Lutefisk.

Oh Lutefisk, Oh Lutefisk, now everyone discovers
Dat Lutefisk and Lefse makes, Norweigians better lovers.
Now all da vorld can have a ball, you're better dan dat Yeritol
Oh Lutefisk, vit brennevin
You make me feel like Errol Flynn.

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Post# 270450 , Reply# 25   3/18/2008 at 03:52 (5,877 days old) by mrx ()        

Haven't Asko Cylinda been part of the Antonio Merloni Group since 2000 ?

They were part of the huge Swedish heavy electrical company, ASEA which became ABB when it merged with Brown Boveri

ASEA and ABB are like Siemens or AEG and have been one of the huge names in European electrical systems since the dawn of electricity.

Post# 270955 , Reply# 26   3/20/2008 at 13:16 (5,874 days old) by timon90 (Norway)        

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Yes, Asko is a part of AM. ASEA is still a part of Asko, and in Sweden Asko STILL is sold as Cylinda, and that is a problem for "Elkjøp"(the biggest appliance dealer in Norway). Elkjøp will just sell brands that have the same name in the whole Scandinavia. And as long as Asko not are selling their machines as Asko in Sweden, Elkjøp wont have them in their assortiment. But if you say to a seller on Elkjøp that you want a specific Asko modell, they'll get it for you.

Post# 271164 , Reply# 27   3/21/2008 at 08:47 (5,874 days old) by funguy10 ()        

I saw the Asko W6903 on the Asko Website. Doesn't have the manual for download yet though...

Post# 271165 , Reply# 28   3/21/2008 at 08:50 (5,874 days old) by funguy10 ()        

And I've stated this before here on the Discuss-O-Mat: I think it is wierd how some Asko washers have a round porthole door inside and then a solid rectangular door that opens down like a dryer in the U.S.

Post# 271173 , Reply# 29   3/21/2008 at 09:15 (5,874 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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It makes totally sense to me. A square inner door wouldn't work and a round outer door wouldn't be handy.

Post# 271338 , Reply# 30   3/22/2008 at 07:20 (5,873 days old) by timon90 (Norway)        

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Hehe....I just love the outerdoors on the Asko machines! Extreemly smart solution if the machine is in a basement, and you dont want to put the clothes on the floor. Wierd that NO other machines nowdays have this feature! Same with the SmartSeal™. A big doorbelow is just steeling usefull room in the drum.And since the door is so thin, it is possible to have that drop down door. I use the door all the time on my Asko 20003.

Post# 271367 , Reply# 31   3/22/2008 at 10:06 (5,873 days old) by passatdoc (Orange County, California)        
makes sense

I bought a small plastic basket to place under the door of my Frigidaire (Electrolux in USA) front loader. The laundry area is in the garage. You won't find this arrangement everywhere in USA, since in colder areas it would freeze as in Norway, but it works in California. There are several advantages: dryer heat stays out of the house, and if there is a leak, the garage floor is 15 cm below the house floor (building regulations), so the water flows out the garage door and does not damage the interior of the house. (the garage floor is very slightly slanted so that the garage door is at the lowest point...and the laundry is "uphill" from the garage door).

That said, I have a washer on a concrete floor, as one might have in a basement situation in Norway: the room becomes cold but does not freeze pipes. If socks or other small items spill out when I am removing clothes, they tend to fall on the floor. I use a small plastic basket (smaller than a laundry basket) to catch anything that might fall on the floor. But a built in door would be very nice. Thank you for sharing the photos. I had seen illustrations of Asko with the square door, but had never seen an actual photograph until you posted it.

The Frigidaire/Electrolux cleans very nicely.

You can buy Asko in USA, some people are afraid to do so because it is not always easy to find service for Asko, compared to more common brands here such as Miele or Bosch. If you are in a large city, probably you are ok, but in rural areas it might not be possible to own an Asko unless you know how to repair them yourself (as you do).

I have not tested the effectiveness of my Frigidaire/Electrolux on surstömming stains because I will not allow any friends from Sweden to bring it with them when they visit. The airlines don't allow it either, not even SAS allows it. At Christmas, Arlanda Airport in Stockholm even puts a page on their website to remind passengers that sil, lutfisk, and surströmming cannot be brought through the security checkpoints.


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