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Post# 61070   3/23/2005 at 16:22 (6,944 days old) by cwheeler ()        

Does anyone know why the commercial Neptune washers all use a warm rinse instead of a cold one in every cycle? I go to school north of L.A. and I would think w/ wanting to be more water/energy efficient, that cold rinses would be the thing...




Post# 61085 , Reply# 1   3/23/2005 at 17:44 (6,944 days old) by kenmore1978 ()        
warm water rinsing

Strange, you would think a laundromat owner would WANT rinses to be cold to cut down on water heating bill

Post# 61115 , Reply# 2   3/23/2005 at 21:29 (6,944 days old) by Brent-Aucoin ()        
Biggest Energy User ... is the Dryer

Warm Water Rinses help cut down cost.
This way the dryer uses less energy to heat up the clothes to start the drying process and get the wet clothes up to the drying temp.
Also, warm water rinses cut down on wrinkles.
Brent


Post# 61126 , Reply# 3   3/24/2005 at 00:22 (6,944 days old) by kenmore1978 ()        
energy costs

I doubt if the lanudramat owner gives a d***n about wrinkels in customer's clothes.

It would be interesting compare the cost of the extra gas the dryers would use to bring the clothes up to temperature vs the extra gas used to heat the rinse water by the water heaters. I tend to think it would cost more in gas to heat the water than the dryers use to dry the cold clothes. Anybody got mathmatical formulas about this?


Post# 61145 , Reply# 4   3/24/2005 at 07:36 (6,943 days old) by Repair-man (Pittsburgh PA)        

A warm rinse reducing wrinkels sure goes against what we have been told before. Some machines won't allow anything but a cold rinse on P/P cycles.

I agree with Kenmore1978, at a minimum it would be a break-even. Besides if it required more drying wouldn't it require more quarters.

Just a guess but possibly because the fills flush the dispenser(s) warm water will do a much better job of cleaning out the fabric softener.

Ed


Post# 61160 , Reply# 5   3/24/2005 at 13:11 (6,943 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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I recall reading back during the "energy crisis" of the 1970s that a warm rinse will make for shorter drying time, but that it does take more energy to heat the water than to run the dryer for the extra few minutes.

Post# 61179 , Reply# 6   3/24/2005 at 16:05 (6,943 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)        

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Your commercial Neptunes are warm rinsing because someone set them to warm rinse in the control board. Warm rinse is an owner programable option. Let your student services department know and they will have someone reset the option.

Also, could it be that because of the route the water takes to get to your building that it could be picking up ambient heat? We had that issue in my dorm. The school used steam heat, and the steam and water pipes all traveled thru the same tunnels, so the cold water pipes would pick up heat from the tunnels and end up warm at the tap.

Could it also be that the suppy hoses for the washers are conneced backwards?


Post# 61198 , Reply# 7   3/24/2005 at 19:51 (6,943 days old) by Repair-man (Pittsburgh PA)        
hoses backwards ?

I know that on the residential machines you can't connect the hoses backwards. The machine will quickly correct itself by reversing the hot and cold valves. I would think that even backwards hoses would have no effect on warm water

Ed


Post# 61211 , Reply# 8   3/24/2005 at 20:46 (6,943 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

since the machine has electronic controls-couldn't it sense the hoses are reveresed and tell you on its display-like"check water connections"

Post# 61255 , Reply# 9   3/25/2005 at 06:20 (6,943 days old) by Repair-man (Pittsburgh PA)        

It can sense if they are backwards. But instead of telling you it just switches the cold valve to hot, etc.

Post# 61285 , Reply# 10   3/25/2005 at 10:45 (6,942 days old) by Joe_In_Philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA)        

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I used an ASKO commercial washer at a laundromat a few years ago, and it flushed hot water through the softener dispenser, but I believe the majority of the rinse water was cold. I thought it was to help keep the dispenser clean. The clothing felt fairly cool at the end of the cycle.

Joe


Post# 61295 , Reply# 11   3/25/2005 at 11:38 (6,942 days old) by cwheeler ()        

Thanx all for the replies...I don't think keeping the softener dispenser was/is a priority...those things are SOOOOOO nasty-I just want to unscrew them all and run them through the dishwasher or something!! I have my one favorite washer because it has the cleanest dispenser, period. I'm so glad I'm going home for break so I can have my own, CLEAN washer...people are sooo messy w/ their detergents and softener...


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