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Post# 270577   3/18/2008 at 21:34 (5,853 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Now this is a washer that means business!

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Post# 270596 , Reply# 1   3/18/2008 at 22:44 (5,853 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Nice, thank you.

But WTH is a 0.8 inch sized valve? Must be a tad bigger than 3/4 inch........

Methinks we need to go metric about 20 years ago! *LOL*


Post# 270614 , Reply# 2   3/19/2008 at 01:07 (5,853 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)        

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Only 20 lbs?

Post# 270629 , Reply# 3   3/19/2008 at 02:18 (5,853 days old) by cammurray22 (Savannah,Georgia)        
Milnor Classic Triple Loaders (30-55 Lbs)

These washers hold clothes and a light weight spread in one load. I used one last night, my clothes came out so nice and clean.

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Post# 270658 , Reply# 4   3/19/2008 at 06:05 (5,853 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

A 525rpm spin saves fuel in the dryer? As opposed to putting them in without spinning, I guess; adequate & sturdy machines, but not great. These are not machines with cutting edge laundry technology.

Post# 270661 , Reply# 5   3/19/2008 at 06:18 (5,853 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Not an expert, but does not the larger drum equal give same extraction results at lower rpms, compared to a smaller drum spinning faster?



Post# 270687 , Reply# 6   3/19/2008 at 09:30 (5,853 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA)        
Tom

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I have had this beef with Milnor since they introduced this machine last year at the Clean show. Here we have a true American washing machine company, and the best they can do is 90G spin? All the while, EVERY other manufacturer at the show was showing 200-300G spin washers. The response from Milnor was that most coin store owners are not really interesting in high extract machines, so they would approach a higher G washer slowly and carefully. Well, most coin store owners are not interesting in high extract washers because they cost twice as much! Doh!

Post# 270743 , Reply# 7   3/19/2008 at 15:58 (5,852 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
35lb Milnor

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I designed a small laundry at the Hyannis Yacht Club in 1995. I chose Milnor for the Construction and design of the machine. The bearings they use are very strong.Built like a tank.Used a75 lb Speed Queen dryer for it's "mate". That machine washed and extracted very well. I can't remember the specs off hand,but it had two motors, one just for the extraction. I learned a tremendous about laundry. programming the micro processor in "steps" as opposed to "cycles". I had looked at Maytag and Wascomat washers but really was sold on Milnor.

Post# 270748 , Reply# 8   3/19/2008 at 16:19 (5,852 days old) by retro-man (- boston,ma)        

I was driving down the street the other day and saw a new laundry mat that had opened. The had a sign out front that said they have 60lb. machines? I have never heard or seen these in a regular place like this. Have other people seen these machines? May have to take my camera and stop by and take some pics and post them.
Jon


Post# 270756 , Reply# 9   3/19/2008 at 17:15 (5,852 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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40, 50 and 60 pound laundromat washing machines are really big with those who like to do huge bulky items, like one or more down filled duvets (and maybe a few pillows), in one load. Problem is many laundromats with such large washing machines do not install the matching dryer. King or large down duvets really do need the matching 50lb (or whatever it is called) dryer so there is room for the down to fluff up.

Also if there are any commercial establishments in the area of the mat, such as vet clinics, to even restaurants, who do not have their own washers and dryers, they like to bung an entire huge load into one large machine. At least that is the what one sees around here.

L.


Post# 270760 , Reply# 10   3/19/2008 at 17:24 (5,852 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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There must be something to Milnor washers, especially older models, they sell very well on fleaBay.

If ever opened a laundromat, would love to have those big old Bendix looking Milnor's, just for style!

L.


Post# 270807 , Reply# 11   3/19/2008 at 19:41 (5,852 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)        

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Yes, a larger drum will generate more G's at a given RPM than a smaller drum, but the G's increase linearly with the diameter of the drum, whereas they increase geometrically (squared) with the rpm's.

Here is the general equation:

G's = (2pi*radius*rpms)(2pi*radius*rpms)/radius

G's = (2pi*radius*rmps)(2pi*rpms)

Correcting for units of feet, this works out to a specific equation of

G's=(0.01846531*rpm)(0.01846531*rpm)(radius)

So, for a drum of 2 foot diameter, the G's at 1,000 rpm would be 340.

For a drum of 3 foot diameter, the G's at 1,000 rpm would be 510.

But for a similar 50% increase in rpm's to 1500, keeping the 2 foot diameter drum, the G's would be 767, vs. 510 for a 3 foot drum at 1000 rpm. So increasing the spin rpms not only helps to keep the machine compact but also has a bigger effect on water extraction than making the drum larger.



Post# 270822 , Reply# 12   3/19/2008 at 20:40 (5,852 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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The 2 local laundromats have the big Milnor classic style machines, they are definetly AMAZING washers!!!! They are EXTREMELY good cleaners, very wide drums with huge vanes and lots of water!!! They have incredibly dramatic washing action and can handle anything thrown at them! I generally can only do my comforters in them because they are just soooo gigantic that I can't find enough to fill them!! My overstuffed queen size comforter fits very nicely in the 35-40lb washers (pictured below) and it's generally COVERED in dog hair and tidbits of chewed up rawhide, I have yet to use any other frontloader that can remove all hair and doggy rawhide chew tidbits from my comforter with just a 6 minute wash!!!! I am definetly getting one of these babies as soon as I have the space and money!

Post# 270840 , Reply# 13   3/19/2008 at 21:27 (5,852 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Boy You Is Kwazy! *LOL*

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Just wondering where are you going to put such a behemoth as a Milnor 35lb washer. Not to mention pouring all that concrete!

*LOL*

L.


Post# 270847 , Reply# 14   3/19/2008 at 21:45 (5,852 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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~Just wondering where are you going to put such a behemoth.
Do you really want to know? If you need to ask, don't!

There was a laundromat a few blocks from Steinway Street in Astoria Queens, NYC that had WASCOMATS of that style. My heart sank when the machines were replaced in the 90's.




Post# 270877 , Reply# 15   3/20/2008 at 04:56 (5,852 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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Installing such a machine in a wide open basement similar to Robert's will not be much of a problem except for getting it down there... Both my dad and grandpa have had a lot of experience mixing and pouring concrete, so that's not the issue... The issue is that I'm not sure how well it would go down a flight of wooden stairs! The 35-40lb model weighs 650lbs, I think I'd need it to be delivered and installed! lol

Post# 270888 , Reply# 16   3/20/2008 at 06:56 (5,852 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
Concrete shoes? We can do that!

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~Both my dad and grandpa have had a lot of experience mixing and pouring concrete.

Stay in touch with your EX-es, just for peace-of-mind! LOL


Post# 270910 , Reply# 17   3/20/2008 at 09:30 (5,852 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Milnors are great machines and are my first memory of huge commercial washers, but seem to be built for an industry that uses extractors after the washer before the next stage of processing, whether ironing or fluff drying. Given the cost difference between the new technology and the proven technology, it probably makes sense for many laundry operations to stick with the older designs. I remember how neat it was to watch the Milnor in the coin laundry go into distribution with the full charge of water resulting in it streaming down the window. Once it was in distribution mode, the drain valve opened and the water falling into the drain trough sounded like a waterfall for a few seconds and the discharge reminded me of the performance put on by a male elephant I saw at the zoo.


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