Thread Number: 1654
HIGH SPEED EXTRACTOR |
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Post# 61387 , Reply# 1   3/26/2005 at 20:00 (6,969 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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"Bock" amoung others made extractors, and were a common sight in coin laundromats. However liability issues and high extracting final spin front loaders have rendered them all but obsolete. Mainly the liability issues, as many insurers and even mat owners (not everyone working/running a laundromat is actually the owner), won't allow one in the door. Extractors pop up on eBay from time to time. If you have the hankering, and can pour about 4 feet of concrete, you can have one. Launderess |
Post# 61396 , Reply# 2   3/27/2005 at 02:54 (6,969 days old) by Kenmore62 ()   |   | |
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WHAT WAS THE LIABILITY ISSUE WITH THESE EXTRACTORS??THANKS |
Post# 61406 , Reply# 5   3/27/2005 at 10:10 (6,968 days old) by golittlesport (California)   |   | |
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Post# 61411 , Reply# 7   3/27/2005 at 11:00 (6,968 days old) by Kenmore62 ()   |   | |
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HI AIR2903 NOW THAT YOU MENTION IT I REMBER AND OLD LADY SCOLDING US FOR GETTING TOO CLOSE TO IT WHEN THE LID POPED UP AS WE WANTED TO LOOK INSIDE. WAS ABOUT TEN YEARS OLD AT THE TIME |
Post# 61717 , Reply# 12   3/30/2005 at 13:18 (6,965 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)   |   | |
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Besides the liability issue, they are a maintenance nightmare. They literally shake themselves apart. Besides the liability issue and the maintenance issue, they are an extremely expensive piece of equipment. A new Bock 18# extrator goes for over $10K. Today's coin laundry owner is better served using that money for a few new stacked dryers or new larger capacity washers. |
Post# 61784 , Reply# 15   3/30/2005 at 22:08 (6,965 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Westy, Have posted several links in the past to FleaBay auctions for old Bock extractors. Keep your eyes peeled there and for other laundry equipment auctions/sales for thes behemoths. You would have to over come the concrete/bolting down issue though. Guess if you had a garage you could pour the four feet deep or so concrete there and bolt the unit down. Extractors were great in the days of low rpm final spinning top and front loaders. But today's modern front loaders hit 1400, 1600 and IIRC even 1800 rpms, granted these are the small European units. Something capable of spinning at high G forces holding 25 or more pounds of laundry must be bolted down and respected. Wonder why Bock extractors have lids that pop open like that? Am going to have to search case law to see if any lawsuits were filed in the United States against Bock or other extractor makers. Do know several makers of spin dryers in the UK and Europe were sued when children lost life and or limb in those units. Launderess |
Post# 61846 , Reply# 16   3/31/2005 at 09:53 (6,964 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)   |   | |
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Considering that a typical laundromat frontloader pulls on the average 90 G's, along with the rising cost of gas (99% of commercial dryers are gas fired), you'd think extractors would be in high demand. But no, cost, maintenance and liability have put the kabash on them. The pop-up lid probably serves the purpose of not allowing the machine to run with the lid up and so there is no questions whether the machine is ready to start or not. |
Post# 61864 , Reply# 17   3/31/2005 at 17:31 (6,964 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)   |   | |
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I beleive I read it on the Bock website-it mentioned something like the lid switch is a DOUBLE interlock-or if the switch fails the unit can't be started.they are serious about keeping body parts away from their spinning basket!! |
Post# 63557 , Reply# 21   4/18/2005 at 12:57 (6,946 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Mrx, Here's a link to a G-force calculator. If you do a little calculating you will see that the spinspeed has more influence on the result than the radius. Probaby a spindryer of 3000rpm will make things a bit dryer than a frontloader with 1800rpm. But practically the results will hardly notice a difference. |
Post# 63580 , Reply# 22   4/18/2005 at 17:35 (6,946 days old) by Toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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I remember the bit of folk wisdom in NYC was to use a towel over the top to make sure nothing flew out... 'cause fishing it out between the inner and outer tubs was a PITA. (large space but still difficult.) One time someone put a comforter in "the wrong way" and the corner crept up and was being rotated against the lid. Well... the printed instuctions (on a huge "Sticker" on the lid) were scraped off.. and the comforter was burnt where it met the lid. Poyester stinks when it burns. LOL The laundomat owner installed it around 1985. It was in Queens where, for some reason, everyone had a washer, but not dryers. So, in people would come with loads and loads of wet laundry and tie-up the dryer for us paying customers. The owner would force anyone who did not wash there to use the extractor, if they wanted a dryer. (after months of throwing them out during peak hours) Also... during extreme back-ups of the dryers the owners would hand out quarters for the extractor for anyone who washed there. The whole place shook like crazy as it was speeding up and slowing down. Even the "Emergency Stop" took a while to stop the tub. (Used it for the comforter HE HE HE just as the attendent smelled the burning too.) and you KNOW I would talk to all the cuties saying something like "These wascomats wash twice and rinse three times.. did you use detergent twice?" Quite the ice-breaker. If they asked how I knew this, it was better to say "Germ and clean-freak mom" rather than "Get a clue and read the directions printed on the machine".. LOL or "It floats my boat" |