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Well, I could just vomit....... (davy1063's WCIL)
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Post# 274983   4/13/2008 at 20:38 (5,854 days old) by davy1063 (Pennsylvania)        

I finally got the nut off, got the mechanism out perfectly. That’s the good news.

Now the bad....

The motor is shot.

Period

I tested the unit out of the washer. It looks like the motor was worked on before due to the scoring on the heads of the screws. I looked at the start switch on top of the motor, and the little Bakelite actuator crumbled and there was a spring which looked like it came off of the centrifugal start mechanism.

So, now I either have a parts donor, or does someone know where I can get a motor?

Thanks to all who have helped me with this....FilterFlo, Uni, qsd-dan, panthera and the rest....Especially Rich (TrainGuy).

It was a learning experience (which I hope hasn't ended)

Davey





Post# 274999 , Reply# 1   4/13/2008 at 22:04 (5,854 days old) by rickr (.)        

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Yikes!! Well, you must have that bad boy all apart by now. I am sure someone will have a spare motor for you. Just wait and see.

Post# 275000 , Reply# 2   4/13/2008 at 22:08 (5,854 days old) by dirtybuck (Springfield, MO)        
Fingers crossed here and a small prayer.

Good luck, Davy...I'm sure someone out there has a motor for you.

Post# 275005 , Reply# 3   4/13/2008 at 22:32 (5,854 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Dave if I had one it would be out the door first thing in the morning. Due to the unique nature of GM and their engineering - right now is when we can kick our behinds that they didn't use standard NEMA motor frame and shaft sizes on their Multi-matic and Rollermatic machines :-(

Ben


Post# 275007 , Reply# 4   4/13/2008 at 23:07 (5,854 days old) by davy1063 (Pennsylvania)        
Here's a picture of the mechanism out of the washer

Here it is....in all its "Summer of Love" glory....

Post# 275008 , Reply# 5   4/13/2008 at 23:13 (5,854 days old) by davy1063 (Pennsylvania)        

another shot....

Post# 275009 , Reply# 6   4/13/2008 at 23:17 (5,854 days old) by davy1063 (Pennsylvania)        
Dave's Special Frigidaire Tools....

Inspired by TrainGuy, a buddy of mine paid a trip to Sears tonight and created the following:

It's the Dave and Brandon's Famous Frigidaire Wrench (pat. pend.)



Post# 275010 , Reply# 7   4/13/2008 at 23:24 (5,854 days old) by davy1063 (Pennsylvania)        
and my own little creation...

Dave's Famous Oil and Famous Water Bellows Famous Ring Remover (pat. pend.)



Post# 275047 , Reply# 8   4/14/2008 at 07:34 (5,853 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)        

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Boy, you really did try and went all out. I too would send you a motor if I had one. What a nice work shop. Would like to see more, all neat and clean!

Steve


Post# 275055 , Reply# 9   4/14/2008 at 08:56 (5,853 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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It sounds like the motor is fine, just needs the start switch replaced. Are there any motor repair shops in your area? That should be a relatively common delco start switch.

Post# 275056 , Reply# 10   4/14/2008 at 09:26 (5,853 days old) by davy1063 (Pennsylvania)        

Yeah, I can check that out too. Just a quick question.....

1)How do you separate the motor from the pump?
2)Where do those little springs go on the centrifugal spinny thingy?

Dave


Post# 275073 , Reply# 11   4/14/2008 at 12:14 (5,853 days old) by fltcoils (South Bend, Indiana)        

My maytag motor has an internal centrifugal switch. It didn't seem that different from ones I've seen on other split phase motors.

I don't know if graingers or others have this, isn't yours a lot like it though?


Post# 275086 , Reply# 12   4/14/2008 at 14:55 (5,853 days old) by davy1063 (Pennsylvania)        
HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry, but I just had to cheer! I got brave and figured "well, it's dead...might as well experiment. SOOOOOOOOOOOO.....I gently opened up the start switch and lo and behold...the contacts are shot! All but arced away. I would take pictures, but it cant zoom in that close. I'm gonna try to ressurect them with a fine file. It reminds me of the points in my VW Beetle! I might be able to fix that little broken off lippy thing.

Wish me luck!


Post# 275143 , Reply# 13   4/14/2008 at 20:18 (5,853 days old) by trainguy (Key West, FL)        

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Dave,

I'm still out of town, but Rice Electric (either listed as Washington or Eighty Four PA) will repair Delco motors like this for you if no one is closer to you.

Rich


Post# 275150 , Reply# 14   4/14/2008 at 21:50 (5,853 days old) by fltcoils (South Bend, Indiana)        

Honestly, that motor is almost exactly like the motor in my 1972 maytag A606

I'll take pics tomorrow,


Post# 275153 , Reply# 15   4/14/2008 at 22:26 (5,853 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
Davy,

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OK, From where I stand, you are better off than before, not worse - you know what's wrong and it isn't the timer.
Starting mechanisms are not tough for a motor shop to fix, regardless of NEMA and GM, the two shall never twain.
You'll get her thumping again, I have a good feeling here.


Post# 275157 , Reply# 16   4/14/2008 at 22:54 (5,853 days old) by davy1063 (Pennsylvania)        
Screw the motor repair shops!!!!!

I FIXED IT...
I give glory to my Dad and my inheriting his mechanical skills. I found where the errant spring went on the centrifugal start switch and I filed and adjusted the contacts. I'll take a vid tomorrow. I NEVER thought I'd see that machine run again!!!! I'm now in the process of neatening it up a bit, cleaning the rollers, cleaning out the outer tub. There isn't a spot of rust to be found in the tub or anywhere.

I gotta tell you all. I really thought I was screwed. What an incredible feeling bringing something like that back. I really think that's why I became an EMT. I wanna see things live forever, or at least give it my best shot. Even my wife was giving me "hi-fives".

The Summer of Love Lives Baby!!!!!

I want to thank you all again for your support. Your spirits were with me!!!!!


Post# 275158 , Reply# 17   4/14/2008 at 23:05 (5,853 days old) by davy1063 (Pennsylvania)        
Here are pics of the switch

here you can see the switch (with the little arm missing). There is a spring-metal follower which attaches to that bakelite piece. What I did is drilled a pinhole thru the bakelite, put the follower back on and retained it with a wrap of fine wire through the pinhole to hold it down in place. (Yes, I should have taken a picture, but I was too excited and anxious to try my idea).

Post# 275159 , Reply# 18   4/14/2008 at 23:06 (5,853 days old) by davy1063 (Pennsylvania)        
Here you see (a little blurry)...

the contact side of the switch. It's hard to see but the lower set of contacts were pitted badly.

Post# 275163 , Reply# 19   4/14/2008 at 23:36 (5,852 days old) by dirtybuck (Springfield, MO)        
YAY!!

I'm glad you got it fixed.

Post# 275182 , Reply# 20   4/15/2008 at 03:30 (5,852 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
Gosh!

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If I ever need an EMT (my last one was named Igor) I'll wait for you.
YaY!


Post# 275203 , Reply# 21   4/15/2008 at 08:48 (5,852 days old) by fltcoils (South Bend, Indiana)        
Good work

Robert emailed me a couple of weeks ago, there's some photos of maint manuals for the 1-18 which mostly apply to the rollermatic as well.

I found two directories with stuff
#1
h___/www.automaticwasher.org/SERVICE/F...
change the 001.jpg to 002.jpg, 003.jpg, etc. for the other pages


#2 H___://www.automaticwasher.org/SERVICE/F...
change the 001.jpg to 002.jpg, 003.jpg, etc. for the other pages

Here's the switch section
h___://www.automaticwasher.org/SERVICE/F...


Post# 275206 , Reply# 22   4/15/2008 at 08:49 (5,852 days old) by fltcoils (South Bend, Indiana)        

and another from same page

I don't know if this will help anyone else, you've certainly got yours going. !!!


Post# 275231 , Reply# 23   4/15/2008 at 11:14 (5,852 days old) by trainguy (Key West, FL)        
Congrats Dave!

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I'll be back in Pgh Sunday night. So please drop me a line if you do happen to need any parts. It does appear as thought the bellows are newer than 1967.

Rich


Post# 275237 , Reply# 24   4/15/2008 at 12:13 (5,852 days old) by davy1063 (Pennsylvania)        
Thanks Rich!!!

yeah, I'm a bit concerned about the bellows due to the fact that the tub nut was so rusted. Also, I found a small tear in the spin shaft seal, but I can probably use a bit of silicone caulk if there is no seal avalible. The rubber mechansm support is fine, no tears and didn't sustain any heat damage from the torch.

You can always surprise me with something that you think I may need :-)

Thanks again buddy!

Dave


Post# 275253 , Reply# 25   4/15/2008 at 13:46 (5,852 days old) by trainguy (Key West, FL)        

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Dave,

Are you going to take your sure spin clutch apart and clean the brake linings before you reassemble your washer? Also is the seal you want part #6336926? Just email me all the parts you want, and I'll hunt them down once I get back home. And if you want both the water and oil bellows, just let me know. I'm also thinking I have a few sets of rollers and drivers, too. How are the coupling and your agitate arm?

Rich



Post# 275271 , Reply# 26   4/15/2008 at 15:09 (5,852 days old) by davy1063 (Pennsylvania)        

yes, can you send me the bellows (oil and water). I wasn't going to take the clutch apart for fear of f&*%ing it up and I'd be back to square one. Is this an easy job? I have the repair master, but it's not the best roadmap since they hop between the 1-18 and the Rollermatic. Here's a shot of the seal...

Post# 275273 , Reply# 27   4/15/2008 at 15:11 (5,852 days old) by davy1063 (Pennsylvania)        
here's the flipside....

no numbers on it anywhere. There is a spring on the inside as well.



Post# 275278 , Reply# 28   4/15/2008 at 15:29 (5,852 days old) by trainguy (Key West, FL)        

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Yes, that's the tub seal. You really can't screw up the clutch. Just watch those 3 small springs. Once you clean and reassemble the clutch, you'll see how much faster the tub stops spinning when the cycle ends.


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