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Post# 275973   4/19/2008 at 15:36 (5,847 days old) by timonator ()        

A memeber of the group found these on craigslist about a month ago When I emailed the owner he told me someone was coming to get them and if they didnt show up He would let me know...Well guess what..He E mailed me and said the first guy was a no show..My Response was I'll Be there A.S.A.P




Post# 275974 , Reply# 1   4/19/2008 at 15:40 (5,847 days old) by timonator ()        
Fantastic!

These are special to me because my Mother had the Exact same pair..The only difference here is the Washer has a Suds Saver and the Dryer is Gas..which if I could find the right parts donor Id change this to Electric Another pic Getting ready to return to Ohio..I had to drive to Detroit to get these About a 2 1/2 Hour Drive Nice Day for a Drive

Post# 275975 , Reply# 2   4/19/2008 at 15:41 (5,847 days old) by timonator ()        
2 1/2 Hours Later

Here they are...plugged in..lights on The washer has some minor issues I'll have to tend to

Post# 275977 , Reply# 3   4/19/2008 at 15:44 (5,847 days old) by timonator ()        
I need some Parts!

Someone took the hinges off the washer lid so I'll need those and also the Bleach Dispenser is missing I"ll need one of those and If I really Wanted to get picky..the detergent measuring cap is cracked Any help with this stuff would be appreciated!

Post# 275979 , Reply# 4   4/19/2008 at 15:46 (5,847 days old) by timonator ()        
Another Tub shot

Im missing only one lid hinge the one closest to the front Check out that agitator!

Post# 275981 , Reply# 5   4/19/2008 at 15:47 (5,847 days old) by timonator ()        
This is Incredible

This little bottle of air freshener has never been used!

Post# 275982 , Reply# 6   4/19/2008 at 15:51 (5,847 days old) by timonator ()        
Now the Bad

According to the previous owner they were in the house when he moved in two weeks ago The house was owned by an elderly couple According to Him the washer simply keeps filling..I havent hooked it up to the water yet to see what it does ..It does however spin Which is a good sign..The Dryer Runs nice and quiet Heres another pic of it laying on its side ! The valve for the "suds saver" looks a little stiff and scarey lol

Post# 275983 , Reply# 7   4/19/2008 at 15:54 (5,847 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )        

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Hey don't knock a suds-saver 'til you've used one. I love them because I feel more involved in the whole laundry process, reminds of using a wringer washer in a weird sort of way.

Post# 275984 , Reply# 8   4/19/2008 at 15:54 (5,847 days old) by timonator ()        
Just a Final Word

Guys! If you Really want this stuff Dont play games...Go Get it! Ive met several great people on line some who say they simply wont mess with listing anything anymore because of all the BS they go through . In this case I shouldnt complain because it worked out for me in the end..

Post# 275985 , Reply# 9   4/19/2008 at 15:57 (5,847 days old) by timonator ()        
Polkanut!

Im not "Knocking" The suds saver option..Just the actual PART! its old crusty and the rubber part is hard! SHEESH!

Post# 275990 , Reply# 10   4/19/2008 at 17:29 (5,847 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
Keep a eye out...

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Looking at the picture of the bottom, I'd make sure it doesn't have a small leak @ the outer tub center seal and/or one of the tub bolt seals. Sometimes just the act of moving an older whirlpool will disturb those seals. Not a terribly bad job to do, tho...

RCD


Post# 275991 , Reply# 11   4/19/2008 at 17:37 (5,847 days old) by tuthill ()        
Nice set!

What year are these things?

Post# 275992 , Reply# 12   4/19/2008 at 17:41 (5,847 days old) by timonator ()        
1966 vintage

Thanks for the info RedCarpetDrew..Hopefully... That wont be a problem ! But as allways anything this old could have several problems..including the dreaded spin tube thing I allways hear about. But they sure are pretty to look at if nuthing else! Lots of chrome and lights

Post# 276010 , Reply# 13   4/19/2008 at 20:17 (5,847 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Hey Tim, those look BE YouTeFul! Glad you got them.....Thats a great set from approx 1966. The date should be stamped on the tranny. That dispenser is actually a dual dispenser, both bleach AND fabric softener......When you pop the lid you will notice a two chamber/two solenoid unit on the left. The lid hinge should not be too hard to find. Its bascially the same one used on both Whirlpool and Kenmore for many many years.........
Im sure you will love that set once its hooked up and running......
And NOTE: Tim LOVES sudsavers! He has a fabulous 1960 GE FilterFlo washer with a SudsSaver he uses all the time.......
Just pointing out a worn part is NOT knocking the whole system........Right Tim????!!!!!


Post# 276013 , Reply# 14   4/19/2008 at 20:29 (5,847 days old) by timonator ()        
Tim Loves Suds!

I save so many suds....Tide's stock is falling...but Mr Bubble is going up! go figure!

Post# 276015 , Reply# 15   4/19/2008 at 20:36 (5,847 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Hummm How about Soaky? Does that Kenmore have a Soaky Cycle? Ha! BTW I think thats a three speed model Tim. Doe it have an "extra SLO" on the options knob?

Post# 276021 , Reply# 16   4/19/2008 at 22:08 (5,847 days old) by timonator ()        
Jimmy...Hmmmm

You had me thinking..so I went down to take a look and No..Extra slo...But you did however Jog my memory on the Bleach/Fabric softner dispenser I remember the one on my mothes had two long flumes...that stuck out Hers came out a lot as well..May be a challenge to find one of those

Post# 276042 , Reply# 17   4/20/2008 at 04:29 (5,847 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)        

That is a beautiful pair. Congrats on getting them home, and I hope that all issues that exist with the washer are remedied, so you can put them to full use. My next door neighbors had that exact set, except the washer was not a suds saver. I do not know for sure whether their dryer was gas or electric, but I remember hearing a rumble akin to those I would normally hear on gas dryers by other brands. It lasted for the first five seconds after it was turned on, which was sufficient time to ignite the pilot.

As I also remember, their dryer had the spindle knob that matched the washer's, as opposed to the dryer above which has the tactile flat knob.

Good Luck,
James


Post# 276043 , Reply# 18   4/20/2008 at 05:23 (5,847 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )        

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My apologies, just a misunderstanding on my part.

Post# 276051 , Reply# 19   4/20/2008 at 07:34 (5,847 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Hey Tim, I just remembered I have the original owners manual and instructions for both the washer and dryer........Remind me and next time you are visiting I will make you a copy of them!

Post# 276072 , Reply# 20   4/20/2008 at 10:14 (5,846 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        
About your washer's issues

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Tim -

I saw those machines on Craigslist in Detroit, I am so glad someone got them who'll appreciate them!

You mentioned the missing or bad parts...I believe that the lid hinge parts are still available from WP or Sears. I recently bought some lid hinge pads from a Whirlpool parts dealer, and the hinges were used until very recently on DD machines.

I have a couple spare bleach dispenser bezels. I believe this machine uses the kind with the flow tubes that funnel the bleach to a reservoir in the corner of the cabinet. For whatever reason, the plastic they used for those is very brittle and I've never seen a bezel come off with the snap tabs intact. They're just sitting in my parts cabinet though, so if one of those would make you happy, just tell me if you need a bleach only, or a split bleach and fabric softener and it's yours.

I recently found three of those detergent cups. I needed one, but the other two are decent, though perhaps a tad yellowed. I'll check them for cracks - you're welcome to one of them as well if they're any better than yours.

One last thought....if you're looking for obsolete or NLA parts, check Sears Parts Direct. I have always bought from my Whirlpool/FSP dealer because I buy them at near wholesale. Recently I needed three items that came up "no longer available" from Whirlpool. I had checked the parts first at Sears and was surprised of the status. I went back to Sears, and they still had all three parts. In one case I get it at less then the last wholesale price because Sears had had the stock on-hand for a while and never updated or raised the cost. Something tells me they had new bleach bezels just a few weeks ago. I'm certain they have the non-solenoid type (that doesn't use the flow tubes) in white and a couple colors. If nothing else, you may be able to make one of those work.

Let me know if I can help you with the above parts! Congrats on the machines.

Gordon


Post# 276077 , Reply# 21   4/20/2008 at 10:50 (5,846 days old) by chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)        
"Filter-Flo"

Actually, this could be a 1968 set as well. I do have a picture of THIS exact set in both of my 1968 Sears Catalogs (I have both, the S/S and the F/W issues of that exact year). I also have the 1966 and 1967 Sears Catalogs, and I don't recall seeing this set listed or pictured in neither of those catalogs.

AND

"Timonator":

This is in fact a 3-Speed machine. It was the #2 Kenmore for 1968 (the model below the Lady Kenmore) and it was one of two "Alphabet" machines (the other one being the #3 Kenmore with the side slide conceal cover...... the model that's below THIS one).

Being that I am not technically minded, I don't know what to do in reference to the "Sud-Saver" issue, but if you look around in these circles (and I am talking about amongst the other club members here), you should be able to locate a Bleach and Fabric Softener Dispenser from somewhere here. Now, as for the Lid Hinges??? Up until about 2006, Kenmores have always had side lids that opened toward the left, so in saying that then, these Lid Hinges should still be available at Sears. Kenmores were side opening from 1957 until 2006 (and that would include most of the older Belt-Drive machines as well as all of the newer and recent Direct-Drives). I would check with Sears and see if they still have them (I believe that they still do).

Anyway, these are beatiful machines. I see the exteriors cleaned up very nicely, I cannot wait until you service the outer tub and the inner wash basket (I see some rust in the wash basket). I am anxious to see these beauties up and running very soon.

--Charles--


Post# 276092 , Reply# 22   4/20/2008 at 13:29 (5,846 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Tim congratulations!! They are truely beautiful. And although i know many Kenmo's, I still love to see panel close-ups of both the washer & dryer. Bob

Post# 276094 , Reply# 23   4/20/2008 at 13:32 (5,846 days old) by timonator ()        
The Story Continues

Gordon Thanks very much for you help I hope we can work something out on the parts The Dispenser is indeed a bleach/Fabric softner Dispenser heres a look under the hood

Post# 276097 , Reply# 24   4/20/2008 at 13:35 (5,846 days old) by timonator ()        
Charles

You are probably right I dont know the exact year of the machine I suppose the model number can tell you that which the tag is on it I just need to clean my bifocals lol I know my parents bought a set like this after they moved into their house in 1965 could have been a couple of years later because I do remember going to the laundromat! A far as Speeds I just looked at the "smaller Dial" and I didnt see any thing there that referred to a super slo speed but it may be done through the timer Havent played with it much yet

Post# 276099 , Reply# 25   4/20/2008 at 13:38 (5,846 days old) by timonator ()        
OK I couldnt stand it!

I hooked it up and guess what? It runs perfectly! The previous owner claimed it would just keep filling with water but ..It worked fine maybe the trip to ohio jarred something loose LOL I havent done a load of clothes in it yet I need to find a Permenant spot for it! Thanks again guys for your Help and Info I allways enjoy your input

Post# 276100 , Reply# 26   4/20/2008 at 13:42 (5,846 days old) by timonator ()        
Made for Permanent Press!

I noticed this on the lint filter lid on the dryer ..My mothers didnt have this nor have I ever seen one with this on it..anyway I thought it was cool so I thought Id post a picture of it

Post# 276101 , Reply# 27   4/20/2008 at 13:46 (5,846 days old) by timonator ()        
Tip of the Day!

DO NOT...I repeat DO NOT move a Belt Driven Kenmore Barefooted! You could smash the hell outta your Big Toe! Like I did...I wont post the gory pic lol

Post# 276111 , Reply# 28   4/20/2008 at 14:59 (5,846 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Yikes!! tim!! I hope your big toes isn't too bad!! Sorry!! Thank you for the pics. No, this is only a 2-speed machine. It just occurred to me friends of my parents had this exact set, but in copperone. (1965-1967) That has to be the most versatile kenmore washer Sears offered in its day. Thank you for the pictures Tim. Does the dryer say anything about SoftHeat or Wringkle Guard? Yeah, that "Made for Permanent Preess" was put on many of their dryers for several years.

Post# 276120 , Reply# 29   4/20/2008 at 17:24 (5,846 days old) by timonator ()        
Model Number

OK here it is for all you MODEL number GURUS...
What year is it? 110.6615801


Post# 276121 , Reply# 30   4/20/2008 at 17:50 (5,846 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        
Gee, imagine that! Its a 1966 model after all.........

Thanks for showing the model and serial Tim! Like you said on the phone, its just like the car guys! Ha. Oh well, When I said approx 1966 model I was kind of speaking from experience, since I had this exact set a while back and sold it to a member on here..........so much for experience!

Post# 276122 , Reply# 31   4/20/2008 at 17:53 (5,846 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

BTW Tim, I talked to Myra tonight, she said she has several of the dispenser troughs for this machine. If you want I will have her put one aside for you and pick it up the next time I visit her, probably in a few weeks.........Oh and she also has lid hinges, so many she said that she doesnt even save them anymore, her supply is that vast! Yeah!

Post# 276123 , Reply# 32   4/20/2008 at 18:25 (5,846 days old) by timonator ()        
How Cool is That!

Imagine that! It is a 1966! Please Tell Myra to put em aside for me Id be greatful if you could get them for me! If I remember correctly the Sears Catalogs Came out six months or so Before the actual calender year. I sure did love to look at all those pictures. And the Christmas Catalog..who could forget that!

Post# 276127 , Reply# 33   4/20/2008 at 18:45 (5,846 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        
Sears Catalog????

Hummmm Tim, are you sure you were'nt using that Sears Catalog at the little house out back? Ha! You know, we dont have much indoor plumbing here in Ohio.......

Post# 276128 , Reply# 34   4/20/2008 at 19:03 (5,846 days old) by timonator ()        
hmmmm

Maybe the underwear section...I'll leave it at that!

Post# 276140 , Reply# 35   4/20/2008 at 21:21 (5,846 days old) by chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)        
Hey...... I stand corrected, sort of......

"Timonator" (and other guys):

I do stand corrected and I am sorry for the misprint and typo on this board today. The Kenmores that you have recently acquired could be in fact 1965's to 1967's. And in that case, then (Timonator), your washer could just be a 2-Speed Machine then. But I will say this though, there is a similar model that was available back in 1968 that was a #2 Model that strikingly similar to your model. Only the control panel is different from your machine. But THIS machine (that I have scanned onto here), is in fact a 3-Speed Machine (read the text when you open the link).

Maybe THIS was the machine I was talking about.

Anyway, sorry for the mistake and all. Even self-proclaimed "Kenmoretorians" like myself can be wrong sometimes and are not deemded perfect (LOL). This time is one of them.

Anyway, enjoy your new machines. They are absolute jewels.

--Charles--


Post# 276141 , Reply# 36   4/20/2008 at 21:24 (5,846 days old) by chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)        

Hey...... I stand corrected, sort of......
"Timonator" (and other guys):

I do stand corrected and I am sorry for the misprint and typo on this board today. The Kenmores that you have recently acquired could be in fact 1965's to 1967's. And in that case, then (Timonator), your washer could just be a 2-Speed Machine then. But I will say this though, there is a similar model that was available back in 1968 that was a #2 Model that strikingly similar to your model. Only the control panel is different from your machine. But THIS machine (that I have scanned onto here), is in fact a 3-Speed Machine (read the text when you open the link).

Maybe THIS was the machine I was talking about.

Anyway, sorry for the mistake and all. Even self-proclaimed "Kenmoretorians" like myself can be wrong sometimes and are not deemded perfect (LOL). This time is one of them.

Anyway, enjoy your new machines. They are absolute jewels.

--Charles--



Post# 276146 , Reply# 37   4/20/2008 at 22:12 (5,846 days old) by chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)        
Timonator......

Sorry for the repeat messages..... What I was trying to do is upload an image of the 1968 Washer so mentioned in my posts.

Okay so, I am going to attempt to do so again.



Post# 276150 , Reply# 38   4/20/2008 at 23:07 (5,846 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)        

Charles:

I admit I had to look closely at the pictures to figure out which year these Kenmores were, as the 1966, and the 1968 models are close in appearance. They have almost the same exact features too. I read the ad for the washer you posted, and this washer features the Roto Flex agitator, whereas the 1966 model has a Roto Swirl. Originally I thought you were referring to another model offered in 1968, with the same console design, and two dials just like this one, except the smaller dial regulated load size. That one also came with only one shift lever for water temperature, and it had the Vari-Flex agitator. Now I know there was another model which I was unfamiliar with.

Have a good one,
James


Post# 276151 , Reply# 39   4/20/2008 at 23:25 (5,846 days old) by chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)        
70 Series....

That's right...... the model I have uploaded above did come with a Roto-Flex Agitator. That was the one that was in my catalog. But I also know of someone on here at the club that also has a similar model that has originally came with a Vari-Flex Agitator. But now, he has a Dual-Action Agitator inside of it.

So yep.... you were right..... there was in fact a simlilar model with a Vari-Flex Agitator inside of it.

--Charles--


Post# 276165 , Reply# 40   4/21/2008 at 06:48 (5,846 days old) by timonator ()        
It's All Good

Enjoyed all the posts! interesting catalog pics too! Although the pics are slightly different Ive never seen one of those! Sears really made some Glitzy stuff back then. While Whirlpool just kinda sat back and handled the production end of things Sears Did a wonderful job of marketing and providing financing. which is what put them to the top years ago Sad to say all the Financial analyst predict Sears/kmart will be out of biz within the next five years! Sad if it happens

Post# 276214 , Reply# 41   4/21/2008 at 14:23 (5,845 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Interesting, subtle differences in features on equivalent models from year to year. One of my aunts had a Kenmore with the same control panel as in the catalog pic above (complete with separate 3-speed control and Cold options), but it had a RotoSwirl agitator.

Post# 276229 , Reply# 42   4/21/2008 at 16:51 (5,845 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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I have recently found out that catalog listings of machines are usually only a representative listing of what was a much greater overall lineup, some of which were not even on the floors at the store.

One recent example...some may have seen a post I put out there recently looking for a 1972 Kenmore control panel. I figured there was only one model that looked like that but never put two and two together as to why one machine I saw years ago had no bleach dispenser and mine does....usually the appearance of a machine changed when they added features, or so I thought.

Doing research on that panel, I found that there were three machines that used the exact panel. There was the entry level machine which used a straight vane agitator, then there was a step-up that had a Super Roto-swirl, and then there was the best of the three which included two dispensers including the agitator mounted softener disp. and the left corner mounted bleach dispenser (it had the roto-swirl as well). There was only one digit difference in the model numbers, but all were 60-series machines. Only the middle machine was listed in the catalogs from what I've seen.

In this case, everyone is probably correct in what they remember and saw, as Sears very well may have made a half-dozen models that were only different in agitator and the wiring (for the 3-speed motors).

I'm thinking that's why you guys all remember similar things that are subtly different.

G


Post# 276287 , Reply# 43   4/21/2008 at 22:15 (5,845 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)        

It is what makes Kenmores so interesting. You never know what you are going to find.

Timonator: Glad the washer is up and running, and with no problems. HOORAY! It must be great to have your childhood washer once again. I love that pic of the washer in action. That Roto Swirl is making serious waves. I wonder how much use it had over the years. The under side of the lid has almost no fading, as if it were still new. However, the lid is leaning back like a typical aging Kenmore that has been well used.

BTW: Hope your toe is feeling better.

Have a good one,
James


Post# 276308 , Reply# 44   4/22/2008 at 06:30 (5,845 days old) by timonator ()        
James

The lid is leaning back because the hinges have been removed or at least on of them I dont know the story Behind it It was that way when the previous owner bought the house they were in. Anyway new hinges will soon be installed along with the bleach/fabric softner dispenser and Hopefully She'll be good to go!


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