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Post# 279851   5/13/2008 at 15:00 (3,447 days old) by commodorejohn ()        

OK guys, so here goes. He starts out empty.




Post# 279852 , Reply# 1   5/13/2008 at 15:01 (3,447 days old) by commodorejohn ()        

Got him loaded and filling with water. HOT, of course.

Post# 279853 , Reply# 2   5/13/2008 at 15:02 (3,447 days old) by commodorejohn ()        

CONTROL PANEL-Normal wash cycle

Post# 279854 , Reply# 3   5/13/2008 at 15:03 (3,447 days old) by commodorejohn ()        

Even with HE detergent, The Chairman works-up a ton of suds!

Post# 279856 , Reply# 4   5/13/2008 at 15:05 (3,447 days old) by commodorejohn ()        

And more suds!SPLASHY, SPLASHY! Yes, The inner lid serves a function.

Post# 279857 , Reply# 5   5/13/2008 at 15:05 (3,447 days old) by thomasortega (Los Angeles - CA)        

amazing!

Post# 279858 , Reply# 6   5/13/2008 at 15:06 (3,447 days old) by commodorejohn ()        

The slow spin and spray-rinse picture didn't turn out well, so onto the deep rinse!

Post# 279860 , Reply# 7   5/13/2008 at 15:06 (3,447 days old) by commodorejohn ()        

More rinsing

Post# 279861 , Reply# 8   5/13/2008 at 15:07 (3,447 days old) by commodorejohn ()        

Spun and DONE!

Post# 279862 , Reply# 9   5/13/2008 at 15:08 (3,447 days old) by commodorejohn ()        

A quick dry in the HARMONY, as I haven't ordered Mrs. Chairman yet!

Post# 279864 , Reply# 10   5/13/2008 at 15:09 (3,447 days old) by thomasortega (Los Angeles - CA)        

if i´m not wrong, the final spin has 4 ramps....

Post# 279868 , Reply# 11   5/13/2008 at 15:22 (3,447 days old) by commodorejohn ()        

Yeah, something like that. It stops and starts repeatedly, and gets faster each time. It doesn't seem to spin terribly fast, but the towels sure came out DRY.

Post# 279878 , Reply# 12   5/13/2008 at 15:45 (3,447 days old) by foraloysius (Groningen, the Netherlands)        

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Thank you very much for sharing the pictures. Does this machine have the same washing action as the GE Harmony? Or is it different? Enquiring minds want to know! LOL

Post# 279900 , Reply# 13   5/13/2008 at 16:51 (3,447 days old) by commodorejohn ()        

It's very similar, but alittle more rugged. I had to "re-program" the Harmony so that it will fill-up all the way to the top with water (Robert told me how to copy the THROW-RUGS cycle). Otherwise, the water level is automatically determined by the load weight (or torque on the motor) and like the Cabrio/Oasis/Bravo/Aquasmart, it doesn't put nearly enough water in the tub. The Chairman has manual water level selectons, and you can top-it-off, if you want. Sometimes I wonder if the Harmony was originally a Haier design, or just copied.

Post# 279911 , Reply# 14   5/13/2008 at 17:34 (3,447 days old) by nmaineman36 ()        

I wonder how that washer would be with shirts and a full load. The wash action looks pretty powerful to me. Nice machine.

Post# 279957 , Reply# 15   5/13/2008 at 20:54 (3,446 days old) by westyslantfront (Tucson, Arizona)        

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Hi John. Great pictures. I can't wait to see the Chairman in person. Sent you a package via UPS ground today. It contains what should have been packed inside the Chairman. Hope you will post pictures when it arrives.


Ross


Post# 279986 , Reply# 16   5/13/2008 at 22:11 (3,446 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Man, The Chairman really moves that water around! Thanks for posting pics.

Post# 280080 , Reply# 17   5/14/2008 at 14:46 (3,446 days old) by commodorejohn ()        

Mike, with a full load it tends to knot things up-of course I could probably try the slow speed. Nothing ripped or tore though when I did jeans and t-shirts. And Ross, I am VERY afraid of what you sent.

Post# 280091 , Reply# 18   5/14/2008 at 15:50 (3,446 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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ooooh I SMELL PHOSPHATES IN THE AIR!!!!!!!

Post# 280137 , Reply# 19   5/14/2008 at 20:05 (3,445 days old) by bestcleaning ()        

Wow. Beautiful machine, congrats. The impeler agitator wash very well.
Waiting the video.
Rodrigo


Post# 280168 , Reply# 20   5/14/2008 at 22:57 (3,445 days old) by tlee618 ()        

John, that is really a neat machine. I love all that water action. What a fun machine. Keep us posted as to how well you like it.

Post# 280265 , Reply# 21   5/15/2008 at 15:07 (3,445 days old) by commodorejohn ()        

Rodrigo and Terry I will make a video this weekend, and attempt to post it on YouTube. Don't know how well it'll work as I've never posted a video before, but I'll try anything once! It's a pretty big machine and holds quite a bit of laundry. Maybe I'll run it on a smaller load and lower water level if you like VIGOROUS action.

Post# 280329 , Reply# 22   5/15/2008 at 21:53 (3,444 days old) by tlee618 ()        

John, you know we love action!!!LOL That would be great if you could do it.

Post# 280407 , Reply# 23   5/16/2008 at 10:06 (3,444 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

I don't understand how impeller action washers can give very uniform cleaning if items get knotted up so that water cannot flow through the fabrics. Consumer Reports used to grade washers on cleaning uniformity.

The 4 graduated spins are designed to cope with the water spun out of the load in incremental amounts so that the pump does not air lock. Drag on the spinner basket from water trapped between it and the outer tub would give poor spinning and cause great wear on the motor. Each spin removes a percentage of the water. Stopping or slowing the basket allows the water to settle in the bottom of the outer tub so that it can be pumped out. When the machine goes into the high speed spin, there is not enough water left in the load to impede the spin action, nor too much for the pump to handle in the deceleration after the spin. My Creda and Duet, and to a certain extent the W1918, use the same principle for handling the water extracted during spins.


Post# 280445 , Reply# 24   5/16/2008 at 15:30 (3,444 days old) by funguy10 ()        

I thinke the Kenmore Oasis does it too. at the start of the final spin it does a series of slow-speed spins. At 7 minutes( or is it 5)left in the cycle the high speed spin starts.

Post# 280446 , Reply# 25   5/16/2008 at 15:41 (3,444 days old) by commodorejohn ()        

Tomturbomatic, it washes very well, and Consumer Reports rated it as GOOD in washing, but only FAIR in water consumption, and POOR in gentleness (although everything comes out OK). If you mix the load with different types of items, it won't tangle or knot, but put 4 pairs of jeans in--the legs WILL tangle together. It's a very nice machine, and I'm quite happy with it.

Post# 280460 , Reply# 26   5/16/2008 at 18:41 (3,443 days old) by westyslantfront (Tucson, Arizona)        

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And what was packed inside the washer?

Post# 280492 , Reply# 27   5/17/2008 at 03:16 (3,443 days old) by commodorejohn ()        

YES ROSS!!! We CAN do a load of laundry with the Chinese TIDE that came inside the machine. And while it's washing, you can read me excerpts from "Quotations from Chairman Mao Tsetung" which I received via UPS GROUND from a very dear friend of mine in Tucson! Next weekend?

Post# 280496 , Reply# 28   5/17/2008 at 04:12 (3,443 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Graduated Spin

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It is called on my Miele, and yes it prevents suds lock and or more water from being extracted than the pump can handle. Many Amercian front loaders simply start the final spin cycle, then if sensors detect suds lock and or too much water slow the spin down until the situation corrects itself. Trouble is if the situation does not change, machine never reaches final spin speed, and one is left with under extracted laundry.

On one's Miele, another advantage of the graduated spin cycle, is laundry is redistributed several times before final high speed spin (if chosen), thus much less chances of an unbalanced load.


As for the merits of impeller washers, have been there and done that with the Hoover. While the desgin is different, still they aren't my favourite design. Too much tangling.

L.


Post# 280506 , Reply# 29   5/17/2008 at 08:09 (3,443 days old) by westyslantfront (Tucson, Arizona)        

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Hi John. I would like to know Chairman Mao's laundry hints.
Does Chairman Mao have a guide to stain removal?


Ross


Post# 280529 , Reply# 30   5/17/2008 at 14:03 (3,443 days old) by commodorejohn ()        

Launderess,there is NO comparison to this machine and a Hoover. I also own a Hoover, and the wash action is totaly different. As I mentioned earlier, if you mix the load with different items of clothing, and don't overload the machine, everything moves around freely and washes well, without tangling. If you don't, well yes, you have knots. It's all how you load the machine, just like any other type of machine.




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