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Post# 285171   6/14/2008 at 10:39 (3,411 days old) by phillygrl ()        

The University of Leeds in the UK has developed a front loader that uses one cup of water per load. Said to be produced next year. See the link for more info.


Post# 285207 , Reply# 1   6/14/2008 at 14:38 (3,411 days old) by funguy10 ()        

Wow! They're calling it the Dyson Bagless Vacuum of washers!
Here is the info from the page:

" A washing machine that uses only a cup of water to carry out a full wash, leaving clothes virtually dry, has been developed by British inventors.

Researchers say the technology, which uses less than 2 per cent of the water and energy of a conventional machine, could save billions of litres of water each year.

The machine, which has been created by academics at Leeds University, works by using thousands of plastic chips - each about half a centimetre in size - to absorb and remove dirt.

Around 44lb (20kilos) of the chips are added to each load, along with a cup of water and detergent.

During the washing cycle, the water is heated to help dissolve the dirt, which is then absorbed by the plastic chips.

The makers say the chips should be removed at the end of each wash, but can be used up to 100 times - the equivalent of six months washing.

The technology, dubbed Xeros, is already being compared to the Dyson bagless vacuum cleaner, which revolutionised the home cleaning industry when it was first released in the mid-1990s.

If adopted by many homes across the UK, the machine could save billions of litres of water each year.

According to Waterwise, a nongovernmental organisation which aims to decrease water consumption in the UK by 2010, washing machine use has risen by 23 per cent in the past 15 years, up from three times a week in 1990 to an average four times now.

The average UK household uses almost 21 litres (37 pints) of water daily on clothes washing, 13 per cent of consumption.

Nationally, this equates to approximately 455million litres (800million pints) of water a day - enough to fill 145 Olympic sized swimming pools.

Although the Xeros is currently in the design and testing stage, the inventors say they are in talks with a commercial partner.

The machine could be on the market as early as next year, they added.

Professor Stephen Burkinshaw, the machine's inventor, said tests have produced 'quite astonishing' results.

'We've shown that it can remove all sorts of everyday stains including coffee and lipstick whilst using a tiny fraction of the water used by conventional washing machines,' he added.

Dr Rob Rule, director of Xeros Ltd, a company created to develop and market the machine, said: 'This is one of the most surprising and remarkable technologies I've encountered in recent years. Xeros has the ability to save billions of litres of water per year and, we believe, the potential to revolutionise the global laundry market.'

He revealed the company has secured an investment of 500,000 from the University's commercialisation partner, IP Group plc, conditional upon reaching certain milestones.

The team also said the technology could be useful to high street dry cleaning firms as it will get rid of the need to use potentially harmful solvents, some of which have been linked to cancer.

More than two million washing machines are sold in the UK each year, giving the market a value of around 1billion.

Post# 285298 , Reply# 2   6/15/2008 at 07:30 (3,411 days old) by stainfighter (Columbia, SC)        

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44 lbs. of chips added to the load??? So, a load is going to weigh approximately 60 lbs?! Wouldn't this take the machine out of the soft-mount into hard-mount status due to the vibration level - ain't no way I'm going to inspect every piece of clothing to ensure there are no chips to melt in the dryer afterwards. If we could somehow get people to stop wasting water by checking faucets, etc. leaks that would save so much water

Post# 285369 , Reply# 3   6/15/2008 at 17:57 (3,410 days old) by lightedcontrols (Wytheville, Va.)        
Is it just me or....

does this sound like LOTS of hooey? Wouldn't the fabric of the clothing in the machine absorb the cup of water immediately??? Nope, sounds like a scam on investors to me. Mark Lightedcontrols

Post# 285377 , Reply# 4   6/15/2008 at 18:26 (3,410 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
I'm hardly ever here on this page,

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But that sounds disgusting. Sorry guys and gals. I want my clothes to see water flushed in and out of them. I'll just keep using the 1-18, Whirlpool, Speed Queen and any other water consuming machine while I'm alive. I'll wash by hand then use that machine.

Post# 285386 , Reply# 5   6/15/2008 at 19:34 (3,410 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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Before you know it, we'll be prewashing the laundry by hand just like the dishes! YIKES!

Post# 285392 , Reply# 6   6/15/2008 at 19:57 (3,410 days old) by decodriveboy (FL, US)        
Oh God

Well, it was only a matter of time, folks....

Tons of stupid people will probably buy this, and enjoy sporting nonstop 'eau de armpit' and other B.O.!

Post# 285421 , Reply# 7   6/15/2008 at 22:33 (3,410 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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There is a thread posted about the subject ..... THREAD 17347... CALLED -- ALL THAT AND A BAG OF CHIPS Darren k

Post# 285423 , Reply# 8   6/15/2008 at 22:38 (3,410 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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There's a thread posted about the subject ... THREAD 17317.... CALLED -- ALL THAT AND A BAG OF CHIPS. Darren k

Post# 285429 , Reply# 9   6/15/2008 at 23:05 (3,410 days old) by filterflo58 (new york)        

thats simply gross.

Post# 285434 , Reply# 10   6/15/2008 at 23:30 (3,410 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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Ooh sorry about the double post. But a washer with one cup of WATER... AAAAH.... WITH A GROUP LIKE A.W. WASHER PEAPLE ........ I RATHER LOOK AT A DRYER FIRST LOL ! O N E C U P O F W A T E R ! hhhaaaaa hhhhaaaaaa hheeee heeeeeee


Post# 285506 , Reply# 11   6/16/2008 at 09:57 (3,409 days old) by jasonl ()        
Here's the secret

The chips are made out of people.


Post# 285569 , Reply# 12   6/16/2008 at 16:17 (3,409 days old) by thomasortega (Los Angeles - CA)        

It just reminds me the Dr. Who's 4th season's 1st episode which appears thousands of cute little baby aliens made by fat.

In a few days we'll discover these plastic chips are aliens LOL

Post# 285646 , Reply# 13   6/17/2008 at 06:53 (3,409 days old) by mrx ()        

I don't understand how you'd get the chips back out of the clothes again though. Wouldn't you just end up with pockets full of chips ?!

I always thought that the best way of doing laundry to save water might be to squash it between two layers, e.g. perhaps a balloon would inflate in the middle of a drum after the clothes had been distributed and stuck to the sides of the drum by a distribution speed spin.

Then the machine would force water through the compressed clothes using a high pressure pump.

You wouldn't need to agitate them at all.

I'd say the draw back though would be that it would produce some amazing wrinkles :)

Post# 285656 , Reply# 14   6/17/2008 at 08:10 (3,408 days old) by spiceman1957 (North Carolina)        
Some clothes don't get clean!

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I have had a front loading machine (Sears) for two years. Although I am fairly happy with the machine, there are times when things don't come out clean. For example, I had a T-shirt that had some cooking grease on it. I washed the shirt twice in the machine, and finally had to soak it in Tide with Bleach, then washed it again. I don't remember ever having to do this with a top-loader. Has anyone had this problem? Also I understand that in years from now, mfgs. will stop making top-loaders per government standards, am I correct? Based on what I just read in this thread, there is no way a machine can clean clothes with a "cup of water".

Post# 285691 , Reply# 15   6/17/2008 at 12:41 (3,408 days old) by mrx ()        

If you detergent's not shifting fats and grease stains you're using a badly formulated HE detergent and should try something else or you're just not using enough detergent.

If you put the machine on a normal cotton cycle with a decent dose of a good detergent that stain should have been removed.

In general, front loaders (used correctly) will remove more stains than top loaders as the machine basically pushes an enzyme and surfactant laden straight through the clothes.

I'd suggest you try some other detergent.

Post# 285975 , Reply# 16   6/18/2008 at 23:47 (3,407 days old) by sudsmaster (East of SF, West of Eden)        

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I'd not want to see how it handles a load of dirty cloth diapers.

Methinks this is a hoax.

Post# 286053 , Reply# 17   6/19/2008 at 11:25 (3,406 days old) by oxydolfan1 ()        


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