Thread Number: 17735
Older Dishwashers and Dish Breakage |
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Post# 289513 , Reply# 1   7/9/2008 at 03:42 (5,769 days old) by whitekingd ()   |   | |
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I've had my Kitchen Aid KDS-14 dishwasher (1962) for twelve years. I've never had a broken dish with it. It's FABULOUS as long as you load it properly. |
Post# 289515 , Reply# 2   7/9/2008 at 04:49 (5,769 days old) by jeffg ()   |   | |
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At least some of the breakage problem was due to the dishes themselves. Delicate china was much more prevalent before the 1970s, when manufacturers assumed it would always be handwashed. |
Post# 289516 , Reply# 3   7/9/2008 at 05:19 (5,769 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)   |   | |
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Our first dishwasher, a 1962 GE Pull-out, never broke a dish. My Mother broke many more of her china and crystal pieces by insisting on hand washing them. The manuals were always emphatic about proper loading and I don't think, in the 45 years that I've been using a dishwasher I've ever seen a machine break a piece. That goes double for my experience in professional kitchens; careless waitstaff and manual dishwashers account for 100% of breakage. Remember that Jocelyn Cochran supposedly invented the mechanical dishwasher to stop all the breakage of her china by clumsy hand washing.
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Post# 289527 , Reply# 6   7/9/2008 at 07:42 (5,769 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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that continually broke dishes were the very early Crosleys with the tumble tub action. If the water level wasn't up to snuff beacause of low water pressure and the timed fill mechanism ,and you were using China instead of the recommended Melamine plates, then when the machine set about tumble washing the dishes, they didn't have enough room to float by each other and so breakage occurred. Other vintage machines didn't have this problem. |
Post# 289531 , Reply# 7   7/9/2008 at 08:14 (5,769 days old) by mikepaquette ()   |   | |
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I have never even heard of this machine Could you please explain Mike |
Post# 289533 , Reply# 8   7/9/2008 at 08:20 (5,769 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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very early Crosleys with the tumble tub action Uh huh, washing dishes by tumbling them in a porcelean coated drum didn't go over very well, did they Jon? So anyways, I have (for the most part) only used vintage dishwashers for over 11 years now and have 1950's dinnerware (Redwing and Blue Heaven) and have never had a dish broken by any of the numerous vintage dishwashers I have used. |
Post# 289534 , Reply# 9   7/9/2008 at 08:22 (5,769 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 289682 , Reply# 11   7/10/2008 at 06:21 (5,768 days old) by toggleswitch2 ()   |   | |
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I was wondering (didja smell smoke? *LOL*), in Euro dishwashers with a cold fill, when such a fill follows a very hot temperature-boosted wash, does that stress or crack the glassware/dishes? Apparently not. |
Post# 289867 , Reply# 13   7/11/2008 at 03:31 (5,767 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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I have a cold fill dishwasher and never had any problems with cracking or stressing, not even with the finest china. The temperature differences are not that significant, the dishwasher is still warm on the inside when the water of the next rinse gets in and that warms it a bit up. The temperature differences are much smaller than for instance when pooring boiling tea into a cold cup. I used to break a lot of stuff when I didn't have a dishwasher, after that I can't seem to get rid of stuff I don't like. LOL |
Post# 289911 , Reply# 14   7/11/2008 at 08:34 (5,767 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 289971 , Reply# 17   7/11/2008 at 12:13 (5,767 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 289982 , Reply# 18   7/11/2008 at 14:05 (5,766 days old) by tlee618 ()   |   | |
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Jon, that is such a cute picture!! |