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Introducing the HOTPOINT 95620 Electronic De Luxe L.E
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Post# 290709   7/14/2008 at 16:27 (5,757 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Well the July repair session was completed last week and me and Rob had a great time (thanks to a great friend in Cardiff - you know who you are!).

Both me and Rob have a great affection for the Hotpoint New Generation series of machines, introduced in 1983.
I grew up, from 1986 onwards, with a 95452 800rpm Electronic De luxe in Almond.
Rob's early years were spent in close proximity to either a 95450 800rpm machine or a 95490 1000rpm machine - whichever it was, it was white.

Back at the start of May the machine below appeared - a Hotpoint 95620 Electronic De Luxe L.E.

Rather battered and cracked, we took the plunge and, with the help of the mate from Cardiff I picked up the machine from Bradford.

Here it is in all of its ebay glory!





Post# 290710 , Reply# 1   7/14/2008 at 16:29 (5,757 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

we got the machine back to Rob's where refettling quickly began.

This is the only picture we have of the machine with its brown door....


Post# 290711 , Reply# 2   7/14/2008 at 16:30 (5,757 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

as this was quickly replaced by a superb original chrome one (many thanks mate)...

Post# 290712 , Reply# 3   7/14/2008 at 16:31 (5,757 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

this was the piccy Rob posted on Tom's 9534 thread as a teaser...

Post# 290713 , Reply# 4   7/14/2008 at 16:36 (5,757 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Having replaced the door (this provided a major impetus to restore the machine in itself) we set to work looking the machine over thoroughly.

The facia was totally shot to pieces, with three pieces missing and fracture cracks radiating all over it.

Also, the machine had had a standard hotpoint replacement programmer dial added, which ruined the original New Generation look.
Truth be told, the number of machines I have seen over the years with these replacement dials is probably testament to the original dials fragility - the shafts at the back used to crack (as did the replacements if you weren't careful)...


Post# 290714 , Reply# 5   7/14/2008 at 16:37 (5,757 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

the feature buttons...

Post# 290715 , Reply# 6   7/14/2008 at 16:38 (5,757 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

and the area around the variable spin selector - as you can see it is riddled with fractures...

Post# 290716 , Reply# 7   7/14/2008 at 16:42 (5,757 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Having rotated the drum by hand, it was immediately obvious that the bearings were totally shot at and they sounded as smooth as driving over pot holes.

We needed to know how it behaved though electrically and so we plumbed it in and tested it outside, with powder, to give it an internal clean and degreasing...


Post# 290727 , Reply# 8   7/14/2008 at 17:05 (5,757 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Here is a vid of the machine with its test load during distribute...

CLICK HERE TO GO TO matchboxpaul's LINK


Post# 290738 , Reply# 9   7/14/2008 at 17:28 (5,757 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

and a vid of the machine on spin! it was deafening and pretty much totally drowned out the sound of the motor.

This was the last time it was plugged in for 2 months...


CLICK HERE TO GO TO matchboxpaul's LINK


Post# 290741 , Reply# 10   7/14/2008 at 17:33 (5,757 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

here is the faded powder drawer.

so far we need:

replacement chrome door - (souced and fitted)
replacement facia
replacement powder drawer facia
replacement powder drawer
replacement dial
replacement bearings
replacement lid side strips
replacement bodyside edge strips



Post# 290742 , Reply# 11   7/14/2008 at 17:35 (5,757 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Once dried out, the machine was put into storage to wait for July and a trip to Wales.

to be continued.....


Post# 290781 , Reply# 12   7/15/2008 at 05:13 (5,757 days old) by robm (Buxted)        

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What a great job you have done so far. The chrome door is definately an improvement. I will watch the vids later.

These machines spun diffently from the rest if I rememember correctly?

All the best

Rob


Post# 290842 , Reply# 13   7/15/2008 at 13:55 (5,756 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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Paul


I love the way you have started this thread!

It just fab....

awaiting more pics and more parts of the story in anticipation so I can get out my box of Persil New System Automatic.

R x


Post# 290846 , Reply# 14   7/15/2008 at 14:51 (5,756 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Wow! What an excellent find gentleman! I can't wait to see more!!!!!!!!! I loved spin slider hotties:D Brings back many memories of my liberator and 9534!!

Fantastic! Its great that we between us can all collect these excellent memorys and keep them alive. It will truely be a sad day when they get fewer and far between.

I've not had a chance to listen to the sound on your videos, but i have vivid memories of my hotpoints with bad bearings that sounded like a load of stones of cottons spin! lol.


Darren


Post# 290861 , Reply# 15   7/15/2008 at 15:55 (5,756 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Taking a break from the restoration tonight to post images of the New Generation series machines generally...

This is the two button version 'Super Electronic' - model 95130 in white and 95132 in almond.

This model and the 95360/95362 'Electronic Super Plus', which boasted three buttons, were the only New Generation machines sold with smooth brown plastic doors from new and for their entire production run....


Post# 290863 , Reply# 16   7/15/2008 at 16:00 (5,756 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
4-buttons

Here we have the start of the De Luxe machines, all of which boasted the much more classy chrome door.

This is the basic de luxe machine boasting 800rpm and 4 option buttons.

Sold as the 95450 Electronic De Luxe in white and the 95452 in almond (one of which catered for my family until 2005)....



Post# 290864 , Reply# 17   7/15/2008 at 16:04 (5,756 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
4 buttons......again

They also manufactured the 95490 and 95492 Electronic De Luxe.

Visually identical to the 95450/452, this machine was a 1000rpm machine.

The 95492 on the right has had a replacement later series brown door fitted, as well as a default 4-button replacement facia - hence there is no model number under the Hotpoint script....


Post# 290865 , Reply# 18   7/15/2008 at 16:11 (5,756 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
5 buttons with a bit of variety!

The main subject of this thread in all it's official brochure glory!

The 95620 'Super Electronic De Luxe L.E' in white, with the 95622 in almond.

Enough said...


Post# 290867 , Reply# 19   7/15/2008 at 16:16 (5,756 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
and finally

the pinacle of New Generation design!

The 95840 'Microtronic De Luxe L.E' in white and the 95842 in almond.




Post# 290868 , Reply# 20   7/15/2008 at 16:21 (5,756 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
and now for the dryers...

the New generation Compact.

The 17430 'Super Dryer' in white and the 17432 in almond.

Me and Rob picked up a 17430 on Saturday just gone!


Post# 290870 , Reply# 21   7/15/2008 at 16:23 (5,756 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

the basic non-De Luxe dryer, with no low/high heat button and its basic non-chrome door...

the 93470 'Super Dryer' in white and 93472 in almond...


Post# 290873 , Reply# 22   7/15/2008 at 16:25 (5,756 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

and now the De Luxe machines, with their chrome finery.

The 93580 'Super De Luxe Dryer' in white and 93582 in almond...


Post# 290874 , Reply# 23   7/15/2008 at 16:27 (5,756 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
and finally

the top of the line dryer, in the form of the 93730 'Reversomatic & Creasecare' in white and the 93732 in almond.

This was the direct match dryer for both the 95620/622 variable and 95840/842 Microtronic...


Post# 290878 , Reply# 24   7/15/2008 at 16:48 (5,756 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
There remains a mystery machine however....

and I would love to know more about it.

Hotpoint also manufactured the 95470 and 95472 model - where did it fit in and what did it look like? does anyone have any ideas on it?

I do have a bit of a theory, but it is only a theory.

By 1984 the 800 rpm models 95450 and 95452 had quickly become a Currys exclusive model.
Was the 95470/472 therefore an 800rpm non-exclusive replacement for the 95450/95452?

Be great if this one can be put to bed and the last blocks of New Generation red squares on the spreadsheet be dispensed with.

Fingers crossed.
Cheers
Paul
p.s thanks Rob and Darren for your comments. Getting rid of the replacement mottled brown door rim, with the original chrome style one, created an instantaneous improvement. I remember saying to Rob, soon after that event, that I really wanted to do the machine justice.

Believe me Darren - the bearings were really shot. The 2nd vid should bring back memories for you! How does mine and Rob's machine compare?

Will continue with the restoration tomorrow. tbc....


Post# 290880 , Reply# 25   7/15/2008 at 17:08 (5,756 days old) by electron800 ()        
the 95620

Is my favourtie Hotpoint of all, therefore one of my fav machines. (only second to Hoover electrons) So pleased to see one being restored. Two cool machines in one go. I'm so jealous! My next door neighbour had the 93580 dryer in their garage. It lasted years!

Post# 290881 , Reply# 26   7/15/2008 at 17:09 (5,756 days old) by hotpoint9534 (UK)        

Great machine! I was always fascinated by the models with 9 programmes on the dial. If only I had the technical knowhow to change bearings and things. The chrome door and rocker switches make my 9534 look like a poor relation.

I can answer Matchboxpaul's query on the 95470/95472 machines. The service manual states that they are 'As 95490 - 95492 except bronze door trim fitted'.

Hope that helps,
Tom







Post# 290911 , Reply# 27   7/15/2008 at 21:09 (5,756 days old) by 7080swashertalk ()        

I like the design of the Euro machines, it doesn't matter what decade. They always had a very professional and sleek look.
The recessed dial is great for installing the machines under kitchen units and not having to worry about bumping the dial.
The multi-button piano switches are always a treat.

Too bad about the fascia panel. I don't know about availabilty there but here the cosmetic bits can be more difficult to order from the manufacturer or very expensive and not always a direct match.

Best of luck in refitting this.


Post# 291017 , Reply# 28   7/16/2008 at 13:32 (5,755 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Hi ya guys.

Thanks Tom for the info - pick your brains again if I may.

I take it then that the 95470/472 was therefore a 4 button, 1000rpm model visually and programme wise identical to the 95490/492, bar the bronze door?

and were the options 'Auto Prewash' 'Half Load' 'Slow Spin' and 'Economy Wash', the same as the 95490/492?

and finally, would I therefore be correct in thinking that the following comprised the full New Generation series:

95130/95132 - 2 button 800/500 rpm
95360/95362 - 3 button 800/500 rpm
95450/95452 - 4 button 800/500 rpm
95470/95472 - 4 button 1000/500 rpm
95490/95492 - 4 button 1000/500 rpm
95620/95622 - 5 button 1000rpm variable
95840/95842 - Microtronic 1000/500 rpm
96700/96702 - Top Loader

17420/17422 - compact, no options
17430/17432 - compact, low heat button
93470/93472 - full size, no options
93580/93582 - full size, low heat button
93730/93732 - full size, buzzer, low heat and door release buttons

The above would hopefully be the full, core model lineup.

Be great to finally get this variant of Hotpoint fully sussed.

Cheers for the info above Tom.
Paul


Post# 291018 , Reply# 29   7/16/2008 at 13:35 (5,755 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Oh and ps Tom....

can you let on as to what was the 95470/472's formal name?

Paul


Post# 291019 , Reply# 30   7/16/2008 at 13:40 (5,755 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Well here we go to Wales...

well, there already actually.
didnt think to take a photo of it in the car - flippin heck!

with the lid off, during preperation for dismantling...


Post# 291021 , Reply# 31   7/16/2008 at 13:42 (5,755 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

grubby outer powder drawer and a very crumbly concrete block...

Post# 291022 , Reply# 32   7/16/2008 at 13:43 (5,755 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

its amazing where washing powder got!

Post# 291023 , Reply# 33   7/16/2008 at 13:44 (5,755 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

front panel off revealing all the innards.

the lower concrete block was in much better condition that the upper one - maybe heat rising had more of an effect on the upper block....


Post# 291024 , Reply# 34   7/16/2008 at 13:47 (5,755 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

outer drum front panel off which includes the heating element - all in good nick, with little, if any, lime scale damage...

Post# 291025 , Reply# 35   7/16/2008 at 13:48 (5,755 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

the inner drum really is in great condition too, with no dings or dents...

Post# 291026 , Reply# 36   7/16/2008 at 13:50 (5,755 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

New Generation buttons off revealing the actual switches which do the job - simple Matchbox affairs...

Post# 291029 , Reply# 37   7/16/2008 at 13:53 (5,755 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
then outside....

where the physical work commenced...

Post# 291030 , Reply# 38   7/16/2008 at 13:53 (5,755 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
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Hey Paul and Rob

Great pics :).

What would you give to be able to grab a Tardis and raid that showroom/warehouse!!!

Seamus


Post# 291033 , Reply# 39   7/16/2008 at 14:12 (5,755 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        
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God to think that kid in the picture is probably the same age as me lol.

R x


Post# 291036 , Reply# 40   7/16/2008 at 14:24 (5,755 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Indeed Seamus

Looks great doesn't it.

Power House in 1986 apparrently - New gens, electrons, round door bendix, late liberatoresques and slanted creda dryers.

oozes appliance history.

paul


Post# 291037 , Reply# 41   7/16/2008 at 14:27 (5,755 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

powder drawer removed for cleaning...

Post# 291038 , Reply# 42   7/16/2008 at 14:28 (5,755 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Bearings removal!

the drum wanted to stay locked tight in there and it took a major effort to get it all loosened!


Post# 291039 , Reply# 43   7/16/2008 at 14:30 (5,755 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

but eventually it conceded and was removed, revealing the delights of a grubby outer drum and some delightful 'bleeding bearings' stains...

Post# 291040 , Reply# 44   7/16/2008 at 14:32 (5,755 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

up close, showing how the trough at the bottom of the outer drum is a useful depository for all sorts of bits n' pieces, plus of course showing the lovely old inner bearing seal...

Post# 291041 , Reply# 45   7/16/2008 at 14:34 (5,755 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
the drum spider

despite the staining from the bearings, the drum spider is in good condition.

there were worries that the bearings would be so worn down as to have damaged the drum shaft - thankfully all was fine...


Post# 291042 , Reply# 46   7/16/2008 at 14:35 (5,755 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

the bearing shaft from the back of the drum, with old bearings removed...

Post# 291043 , Reply# 47   7/16/2008 at 14:36 (5,755 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

and with new bearings applied...

Post# 291044 , Reply# 48   7/16/2008 at 14:36 (5,755 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

and from the front, showing the bearing seal...

Post# 291045 , Reply# 49   7/16/2008 at 14:37 (5,755 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

and the lovely old bearings, covered in rust jelly.
mmmmmmmmmmmm......nice.


Post# 291046 , Reply# 50   7/16/2008 at 14:39 (5,755 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

new bearings in, and after a thorough scrub to the inside of the outer drum, the inner drum was reinserted and secured...

Post# 291047 , Reply# 51   7/16/2008 at 14:40 (5,755 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

the outer drum was moulded in August 1985....

Post# 291048 , Reply# 52   7/16/2008 at 14:41 (5,755 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

a new front door seal applied...

Post# 291049 , Reply# 53   7/16/2008 at 14:42 (5,755 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

details of the door release mechanism - a simple spring on a lever affair.

the seal on the outer drum front plate was also replaced, as was the door seal clamp - after much fighting to get it attached...


Post# 291050 , Reply# 54   7/16/2008 at 14:43 (5,755 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

outer casing number 2914?.....

Post# 291051 , Reply# 55   7/16/2008 at 14:45 (5,755 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

front back on and replacing the powder drawer.

also, the top rim of the front panel had received a thorough clean, to get rid of all that old powder scum - came up glistening...


Post# 291052 , Reply# 56   7/16/2008 at 14:49 (5,755 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

the innards all put together again.

we did procure a replacement top breeze block but, after sealing it with glue, discovered it wasnt deep enough to allow the bolts to be attached and the block secured - blocks from new generation machines and 95/wm machines are different!

rather grudgingly, the old one was reused, but heavily sealed under a couple of layers of glue, to try and stop further chipping and disintegration of it. no more chips have fallen off it - yet.

we will be keeping our eyes out for a replacement one!


Post# 291053 , Reply# 57   7/16/2008 at 14:50 (5,755 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

front back on and door release mechanism tested - all OK...

Post# 291054 , Reply# 58   7/16/2008 at 14:53 (5,755 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

then back in doors for some trial runs...

Post# 291057 , Reply# 59   7/16/2008 at 15:05 (5,755 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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This thread is phenominal. Thank you so much for doing it! Its so very interesting. That machine is going to be mega when its done! hopefully lots of visual footage of it action:D:D:D

Ooooooooooooooh heres a painful memory. The 95840 'Microtronic De Luxe L.E I won one of these on ebay, only to be told it wouldn't be delivered for a month! In my impatience i cancelled the entire thing. Sadly.

Heres a pic of the one i won. I really wish i'd waited.

Darren


Post# 291062 , Reply# 60   7/16/2008 at 15:31 (5,755 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Darren.

I have that piccy in my album too. Looked like a great machine and I too wish you had pursued it too. would have been great to see one of those working. hey ho.

Weird thing is I dont remeber it ever being relisted for sale.

glad you are enjoying the thread.
more of the restoration tomorrow!

tomorrow its the fluffy bits that get reattached!

in the meantime, here is a short test wash vid...


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Post# 291063 , Reply# 61   7/16/2008 at 15:38 (5,755 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Ahh yes, it was relisted but the seller made no mention of being messed around etc, as they knew they were out of order making me wait a month. There was a white one cast aside outside someones house near my g.fs parents! I hope its still there! I'd love to fix it up good!

Nice video! oooh how excitink!

Darren.


Post# 291066 , Reply# 62   7/16/2008 at 16:25 (5,755 days old) by hotpoint9534 (UK)        

Hi Paul, your assumption is correct with regard to the 95490 being identical to the 95470 except for the trim. The wording is 'Electronic De Luxe' on the 95490 so I assume it's the same on the 95470.

Attached is more info on the changes and the New Generation range (except models 95620 and above which are covered by a different service manual).

Tom.


Post# 291067 , Reply# 63   7/16/2008 at 16:26 (5,755 days old) by hotpoint9534 (UK)        

Design Changes

Post# 291068 , Reply# 64   7/16/2008 at 16:33 (5,755 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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Crikey,

Tom that confirms ours was made between Aug 1985 - and October 1985 as ours has the earlier trim strips - we have some of the newer ones to replace and they dont fit due to various holes and lugs being different.


How nice to be able to be so accurate in dating our machine

Rob


Post# 291071 , Reply# 65   7/16/2008 at 16:37 (5,755 days old) by hotpoint9534 (UK)        

Hi Rob,

Both types of top cover trims are still available from Hotpoint.

Bronze with Plastic Clips part no. 168565
Bronze with Steel Fix part no. 168223

Hope that helps,
Tom.


Post# 291075 , Reply# 66   7/16/2008 at 16:46 (5,755 days old) by hotpoint9534 (UK)        
New generation fascias

Showing a few of the variations available. Models 18381 and 1852 are included as they were still being made when the New Generations came out in late 1982.

Post# 291080 , Reply# 67   7/16/2008 at 16:57 (5,755 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Wow, this takes me back to when they first came out, Agri Electrics here we come!!!, superb machines, you can see they had engineers designing them, everything accessible!!!

The panels where about the weakest link, very brittle over time, not helped by little support behind, those dinky toggle switches are a hoot considering the size of the rockers!!!Hotpoint did a survey about which programmes where most used and guess what..numbers 2, 5 & 7 won.

I love the heater built onto the front plate, well easy to remove for servicing...AND, a sound all of its own, well done boys, I hope you bought teacher mathew a beer or two!!!

Looking forward to seeing the finished product...as well as using it!!!

Cheers, Mike

p.s. I guess it was the teacher that rested the front panel onto that dream of a tumble dryer!!! I know is wasnt you two, you`d both have been freaking at that...Lol


Post# 291084 , Reply# 68   7/16/2008 at 17:16 (5,755 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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Mike,

LOLOLOLOLOL @ the control panel!

T'was the devil in me that caused the UK's members to errupt into sheer excitement with that sneaky pic phone message.

Well why does it surprise me that number 5 was amongst the most commonly programme.

The state of my cousins white socks was just indescribable with my Aunt using number 5 to wash them with on her 9514. Add in a cup of KWIKSAVE NO FRILLS powder to the mix and its enough to turn ya stomach.

Id love to moan that her teatowels and dishcloth were dirty due to the low temp cycle but seeing as they never went near the washer I cant.....


I can assure you that the most commonly used cycles in this house are 1 2 4 6 and 8.

number 5 is exclusive for jeans and jeans only!

R




Post# 291244 , Reply# 69   7/17/2008 at 14:32 (5,754 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Once again - cheers to Tom for the info you have posted. Really great stuff and really useful - even down to the months of introduction! brilliant.

Yep Mike - it was, I think, teacher who placed the panel against that classic dryer.
He wanted to put the dryer outside whilst we worked on the 95! I said you ain't bloody doing that - didnt want it getting wet. A true classic from Hoover late 70's.

cheers
Paul


Post# 291246 , Reply# 70   7/17/2008 at 14:45 (5,754 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Now for the fluffy bits....

which make the machine recognisable.

Thanks to the help of a great mate of ours, we sourced a 956XX facia.

Before anyone picks us up on it - yep it is from a 95622! However original ones are so difficult to come by, which arent smashed and cracked, we were/are eternally grateful to have one at all. Thanks mate!

Me and Rob do think we know the location of another 956XX facia, but its a case of getting into the bloody shop to find out! been trying for 6 months now!!!!

Anyway, the facia we have is great - in good condition and looks much better than the £40 replacements, allegedly available from Hotpoint, which are missing any form of model numbering and which look wrong because of it.

Below is a contrast image between the old knackered and the old sound...


Post# 291248 , Reply# 71   7/17/2008 at 14:49 (5,754 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

and the 'here's a warning' picture.

Hotpoint 95 series facia's get very brittle. I had never realised how bad they are until i saw our machine in Bradford.

If you are not careful, you can very easily push your fingers and thumbs through them!

As a result, me and Rob are planning on carefully unscrewing the facia from the machine whenever we move it.

If you plan on moving a vintage 95 - dont apply any force, if you can avoid it, to the facia - this is what can result...


Post# 291249 , Reply# 72   7/17/2008 at 14:52 (5,754 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
now to the dials...

Our hotpoints knight in shining armour also came up trumps with a new generation dial too. - and it looks a treat...

Post# 291250 , Reply# 73   7/17/2008 at 14:56 (5,754 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
and finally for the fussy bits...

the powder drawer.

whilst in cardiff, we went shopping to his local machine spare parts place and came up trumps with, what must be the 95622 facias original matching powder drawer.

The yelps of excitement from rob, when he stumbled across it were startling to say the least.

in far better condition that our original one, the programme details have faded hardly at all when compared to the one the machine came with.

old old on the left.............new old on the right


Post# 291251 , Reply# 74   7/17/2008 at 14:58 (5,754 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

and another of the two drawers, with the new old one also now containing an original hotpoint liquid dispenser...

Post# 291253 , Reply# 75   7/17/2008 at 14:59 (5,754 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
sticking the bits on....

facia on....

Post# 291255 , Reply# 76   7/17/2008 at 15:02 (5,754 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

new generation dial added....

Post# 291256 , Reply# 77   7/17/2008 at 15:03 (5,754 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

and powder drawer....

Post# 291258 , Reply# 78   7/17/2008 at 15:04 (5,754 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

powder drawer innards....

Post# 291263 , Reply# 79   7/17/2008 at 15:32 (5,754 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

back in time a bit to a full spin speed test, with a bit of naughty variable spin play.

will not be being repeated.....often anyway!


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Post# 291266 , Reply# 80   7/17/2008 at 15:35 (5,754 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

barring the side strips - she is now complete!

looks pretty good if i dont say so myself...


Post# 291267 , Reply# 81   7/17/2008 at 15:35 (5,754 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

here is rob setting the programme for the first load...

Post# 291268 , Reply# 82   7/17/2008 at 15:36 (5,754 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Mains light and rinse hold lights both glowing nicely...

Post# 291269 , Reply# 83   7/17/2008 at 15:37 (5,754 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

with the instruction manual...

Post# 291271 , Reply# 84   7/17/2008 at 15:44 (5,754 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Job in Cardiff done and nearly time to unplumb and set off for Crewe...



Post# 291273 , Reply# 85   7/17/2008 at 16:21 (5,754 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

and finally for tonight...

fully fitten facia, with a bit of a load, distribute and short spin...

enjoy.
final update on sunday evening.

cheers
paul


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Post# 291275 , Reply# 86   7/17/2008 at 16:58 (5,754 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Oohhh!!..Programme 5

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Nowthen, just remember that feeling when after all the hard work you finally get to "Simply Switch On" for the first time ....wasnt is sooo worth it....its looking great boys....i`ve forgotten how those timer dials sound as you ratchet the program....great stuff..and then the Whoooooshh of that spin!!!

Enjoy, Mike


Post# 291347 , Reply# 87   7/18/2008 at 06:12 (5,753 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        
First Wash Back Home

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When we got back to Crewe from Cardiff we couldnt wait to get it going with a mountain of washing accrued over our weeks holiday.,

First wash was the whites.

No.1 White Cottons @ 70deg.

Being a Low Energy Machine it washes approx 10 degrees lower than the cycle number indicates unless you press superwash which sees that it washes at the full temperature for each cycle.

So ~I selected number 1 and pressed superwash to get a high temp 85deg wash for whites.
being white cottons I selected full spin speed of 1000rpm.

Here it is not far into the wash.


Post# 291349 , Reply# 88   7/18/2008 at 06:16 (5,753 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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Heated up and about to start the longer periods of fast tumbleing.

These machines gave much regular, longer and faster tumbles than the Hoover contempories - IMHO its quite evident this made way for a better clean and it certainly shows compared to results from the Hoover Electron.



Post# 291350 , Reply# 89   7/18/2008 at 06:18 (5,753 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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Rinsing away

Post# 291352 , Reply# 90   7/18/2008 at 06:21 (5,753 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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The rinsing performance of this machine is also IMHO better than the Hoovers of the era despite Hoover using way much unneccessary water.

THis is evident due to the fact that Hotpoint rinse cycles had a spin after each rinse whereas Hoover only had one inbetween the 2nd rinse and the 3rd of 4.

Here is the complete cycle. its amazing how much you could get into a 9lb load which seems so small these days with 18lb load machines on the market ean readily available.

Pic 1 nearly full



Post# 291354 , Reply# 91   7/18/2008 at 06:22 (5,753 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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with some of the load removed there is still a fair way to go.

Post# 291355 , Reply# 92   7/18/2008 at 06:26 (5,753 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        
Next Wash

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THe race to get stuff washed and dried...


Load of acrylic sweats and jumpers.



Post# 291358 , Reply# 93   7/18/2008 at 06:27 (5,753 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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Detergebt in the dispenser.

Lidl Formil which comes in a bottle similar to the 80s/90s Persil bottles before it went to a concentrated Micro liquid.


Post# 291359 , Reply# 94   7/18/2008 at 06:28 (5,753 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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Wash set!

Slower spin speed now. 600rpm


Post# 291360 , Reply# 95   7/18/2008 at 06:29 (5,753 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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Time for a cup of coffee ....



Post# 291361 , Reply# 96   7/18/2008 at 06:30 (5,753 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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Washing away

Post# 291438 , Reply# 97   7/18/2008 at 12:39 (5,753 days old) by dubstar85 (Glasgow, Scotland)        

Such a beautiful machine! Listening to the machine going into the short spin sounded exactly like my old washer drier. I just have a question though. Does the machine tumble in between spins? My old washer drier would spin loosen a few times during every spin cycle. I would love to know if Hotpoint used the same sequence in washing machines.

David


Post# 291626 , Reply# 98   7/19/2008 at 17:30 (5,752 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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Found one of my fave pics of it awaiting in our storeage unit proir to its trip to Cardiff.



Post# 291627 , Reply# 99   7/19/2008 at 17:31 (5,752 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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the 2 washers circa 1985. Nice to think these were displayed not far from each other 23 years ago in a nice showroom.


Post# 291757 , Reply# 100   7/20/2008 at 12:49 (5,751 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Here we go - the final set of vids for the time being...

a bit of washing going on....


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Post# 291758 , Reply# 101   7/20/2008 at 12:53 (5,751 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

and into distribute.

now, unfortunately i ballsed up a bit and havent got a 1000rpm video.
really sorry - either thought i had one when i didn't or i deleted it by mistake. I came away from that week off with over 400 pictures and vids to sort through - probably deleted it in error.
will deffo do a 1000rpm vid when we get it out again - possibly next month.

there is one more vid after this one to post though.

listen to that door interlock buzzing away....


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Post# 291766 , Reply# 102   7/20/2008 at 14:38 (5,751 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
the final vid for the time being...

some rinse cycle tumbling, then we see the dial click round for the distribute. then into a short spin of about 575ish, then to off.

hope you have enjoyed the vids and i will do one of it at 1000rpm when we have it out to play next...


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Post# 291775 , Reply# 103   7/20/2008 at 15:07 (5,751 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

well, that is pretty much it.

The machine has had:

replacement facia
replacement programmer dial
replacement chrome door
replacement power drawer
replacement powder drawer facia
replacement bearings
replacement lid side strips
replacement waste water hose
replacement front door seal
&
replacement sump hose

I think that is everything.



There are still one or two things to do:

replacement side strips.....we will be keeping our eyes out for a suitable pair, with the correct attachment fixtures.

we will be keeping our eyes open for any 956XX facia.....with something so fragile, you can never have too many (a 95620 one would be great).

one or two of the more major paintwork dings may get touched up.....the one on the lid, above the powder drawer is a particularly irritating one for me.


But, other than that, me and Rob are really pleased with the results. it is great to see and hear a New Generation in full flight again and i loved this particular model as a kid. i'd never have thought that, nearly 25 years after they were introduced, i would finally own one.




Have just had a browse through the contributory postings - apologies for not answering these questions earlier...

Hi RobM...i think the last vid posted might answer your question re:different spins.
My mums machine would go into distribute, ramp upto spin and then afterwards decelerate back to distribute, but would not stop.
The 95620 decelerates down to stop, which i never knew it did. Indeed i remember the looks on mine, rob's and the cardiff friends faces when it did decelerate to stop. Written across them was the comment 'well, i never knew it did that!'.
Can be a b1tch rebalancing, with small loads though, as the machine snatches straight back upto distribute speed, which can cause the load to attach itself to one part of the drum.
Hope that this was the different spin that you were referring to.

Hi David...i think this machine was programmed differently to your washer-dryer. Doesnt do intermediate tumbles in between distribute.
What model washer-dryer did you have - i seem to remember you mentioning 9934 before?
My 9901 didn't (i think) do intermediate tumbles. Perhaps it was a slightly later feature. cheers for your comment.

If I have missed anyone - again, apologies.




Can I take this opportunity to thank, also on Robs behalf, our mate in Cardiff without whose help all this could not have been done.
Thanks for sourcing many of the main replcement parts and components, offering advice, grafting and generally being a superb bloke.
Thanks for helping collect it with me as well.
Without your it would still be a total mess.
Cheers mate - you are very much appreciated.

All the best to you all.
cheers
paul
p.s i post the piccy below again, as i like it so much - 'New Generation Illuminated'




Post# 291803 , Reply# 104   7/20/2008 at 18:08 (5,751 days old) by dubstar85 (Glasgow, Scotland)        

No problem! Yeah, i had a white 9934. Was a good machine except for the vent ripping clothes etc :-(

Heres what my machine done: the machine would drain and distribute and rev up to 400rpm and stop. It would tumble twice then distribute and spin at 600rpm for a 30 secs.

On the final spin it would do the same and when the knob moved on you could hear the machine would dip then go back up 600rpm. It was sort of like a hoover machine but the dip was much shorter. On the fast spin the machine would go from 600rpm up to 1000. In the manual it said it had pulsed spins so i guess that was that! I got excited you see when i saw it stop after the first burst haha.

David


Post# 292275 , Reply# 105   7/23/2008 at 09:47 (5,748 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
The showroom Pic

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Hey Rob

Yup guess you would have been about the same age as the kid in the pic- and im sure you would have been checking things out the same as he obviously is as well !

LOL!

Seamus


Post# 292278 , Reply# 106   7/23/2008 at 10:12 (5,748 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Of course...

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Rob..

Being those "few" years older than you I got to play with Matchboxes and Liberators ;).

I can still remember discovering how a Hoover door slide worked- much to the annoyance of various Seeboard and CO-OP salesmen no doubt!!

Seamus


Post# 293347 , Reply# 107   7/29/2008 at 15:51 (5,742 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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Lol Seamus,

Now you know we have a matching Hoover for any machine of the time so il slip in the Hotpoint Electronic De Luxe upright of the same era as the 95620.

Now for the matching dryer!



Post# 295110 , Reply# 108   8/6/2008 at 14:45 (5,734 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
Hellow

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Hi, I'v just started rebuilding a 95622, same machine but in almond and same year and hop it will be as good as yours when I have finshed, luck would have it I also found crome door for mine as it had been replaced with a brown one. Whish I could find a liberator to do up!!

Thanks, Lee


Post# 295133 , Reply# 109   8/6/2008 at 16:01 (5,734 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        

Interesting machine-----and you guys did a wonderful restoration!
THe chrome door and new console facia were a real improvement!
The many photos are great----- helps one to appreciate all your work.

Best wishes!


Post# 295218 , Reply# 110   8/7/2008 at 01:32 (5,734 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Time for a cup of coffee

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Hello Rob & Paul

what a brilliant thread!.........arggh that fot of you sitting there hands clasped watching! thats me aswell after i have done a rebuild......only difference is i would have an ashtray full up with fag butts, and a load of half drunk tea cups everywhere.
The pictures really show the tasks involved, and the mounting excitement as you near the end of the job.

Really well done, I am pleased you got something you really wanted and were able to get it right.

It pi...s me off that i am not allowed to bring any of my machines into the house for real use.......I dream that one day the Bosch will blow up and i might get a chance then to bring one into the house

Again well done and thanks for an excellent thread
Gary


Post# 295242 , Reply# 111   8/7/2008 at 07:46 (5,733 days old) by hooverkeymatic (England)        
Hotpoint

I have a Hotpoint WM53 1200.
First,congrats to the find.Id love to have one.
My hottie has a couple of faults though.It needs a new suspension arm,a new interlock and it sometimes overfills.I really like it.Ay comments about the new range of hotpoints.They look alright.


Post# 295260 , Reply# 112   8/7/2008 at 09:42 (5,733 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Ay comments about the new range of hotpoints.They look alrig

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Dont get me started lol!!

Seamus


Post# 295296 , Reply# 113   8/7/2008 at 12:22 (5,733 days old) by tuthill ()        
Wow

That was impressive, nice work! Thanks for all the photos

Post# 295337 , Reply# 114   8/7/2008 at 17:15 (5,733 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
and here was me thinking me and rob were the only New Genner

How do Lee and welcome to the forum.

Really great to know that there is an almond 95622 undergoing the rebuild treatment.

Almond was such a great colour - my mum had a 95452 from 1986 through 2005 and how smart it looked. Was bought to go with the new kitchen in 1986 and was retained when another new kitchen was installed in early 2005.
Was only got rid of because of bearings seizure - had I been back into washers and dryers back then, then it would be in store right now.
Alas it was one of those which got away.

Finding the replacement chrome door is the visual key - that is what inspired me and Rob (with the help of a great mate) to do right by our 95620.

They were (and still are) great machines - be sure to show us the progress. Be great to see an almond New generation again!

Cheers
Paul



Post# 295342 , Reply# 115   8/7/2008 at 17:28 (5,733 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Steve.
Thanks for the best wishes - me and rob are really pleased with the machine, although there are still one or two visual things to sort out.
Namely a left and right hand side strip. I am sure we'll stumble across a couple eventually.


How do Gary.
Realy pleased you enjoyed the thread.
The piccies do show some of the tasks involved - bloody hell, that nut really didnt want to release the drum!
How is the A3190 and A3110 doing? me and rob are keeping an eye out for a replacement spin speed button for the 3110. They really are great machines and possessing the very first Electron 1100 version - all those WANTED adverts paid off big style.


Cheers guys
Paul


Post# 295425 , Reply# 116   8/8/2008 at 02:14 (5,733 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Time for a cup of coffee

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Hello Paul

It is a pleasure to see all this, I wish took fots but i cant be asked....I just want to get on.......Electrons all have the same basic problem when i get them, "twisted tub"......so its out with trusty 13mm spanner and mole grips, molykote grease, new suspension kit and the machine upside down......., then of course there are wheels........bloody awful softish rubber ones at the back, this is worst design feature of all the early Hoovers from a stability point of view, I replace them all with suitable new ones, and then there is any rust that needs treating.........blah blah blah........you get the picture.

The A3190 is basically done now it had an unusual fault in that the thermostat was playing up......that was perhaps the biggest suprise to find......especially down here

The A3110 is still lovely........makes me smile when i look at it.........thanks for looking out for a spin speed button, they are for sale on some websites, but they are black (A3190 etc) and bloody expensive for what they are, if they were brown then i would swallow the cost and just get one

I brought home a A3350 which i have started to work on, but i got flu and have stopped for the time being

Regarding the trim on the lovely chromey Hotpoint we get them in at work from time to time, but that brown trim is always broken, however if one comes in with trim in tact i will try and remove it for you and also if any chrome doors come in i will get them

I still have the purple chrome door for a Hotpoint tumble dryer here that mikechesterfield said he wanted but he has not got in touch so i dunno about that

BTW the lad with tussled red hair and side burns looks ded cute in the fot

right i think thats it so far

Take care
Gary


Post# 295482 , Reply# 117   8/8/2008 at 11:08 (5,732 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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LOL!

Cheers Gary - Im assuning your referring to moi? Its certainly not red I can assure you :)

Im living proof blondes CAN be intelligent! :)

Have posted a pic of me in the off topic forum but heres one of me anyways.

Excuse the scruffs im dressed in,

AM going to raid the local spares shop on Monday - the guys not been there for months but il keep calling his mobile until he promises to be there. We need a ton of stuff as it is from there so its worth pestering him silly now as he keeps standing us up.

Will see what I can do in the line of A3110 buttons etc.

I f you want you can mail privately or add me to MSN if you want and you could maybe send me a list of stuff you need that I might find you - this guy has thousands of obsolete parts from machines long gone.

Cheers

Rob


Post# 295506 , Reply# 118   8/8/2008 at 14:14 (5,732 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Time for a cup of coffee

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OK ok strawberry blond then :-)

Post# 295605 , Reply# 119   8/9/2008 at 02:44 (5,732 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Zachary.

great to see another Hotpoint fan joining the club!

The 4th machine I used after leaving home (in a rented house) was the 100rpm WM52.

Have to say it did the job very well and never gave us any trouble whatsoever, in the two years me and my mates lived in that house - and it was used daily.

If I had the space and with them beng still quite readily available, I too would acquire a First Edition WM from that series of machine.
All of a sudden, they will vanish and become like gold-dust, so you do wisely to keep hold of a good example now.
Welcome and happy collecting.



Hi Gary.

Bloody hell - Electrons and those rubber rear wheels! Me and rob reorganised our storage (the best we could) yesterday. Our A3350 is sat next to the hotpooint 95620 and has the matchbox D6018 dryer stacked on top of it. The stack leans back something chronic - all because of those rubber wheels going flat. A really p!ss poor design they had going.
Rob - me and thee will have to procure replacements somewhere down the line!

Cheers gary for offering to keep your eyes peeled for trim and chrome doors -a real good idea re the latter as they arent available anymore.
In all liklihood, even if you get a machine with intact trims, they will crack on removal - they are painfully fragile. Also, just to be awkward, they changed the way they fitted between series of machines, with our 95620 neeeding first series strips with round lugs.
The latter series had round and square.
If you do come across any, please let me or rob know.

Re your Liberator purple door - I am pretty sure Mike still wants it. Just give him a gentle reminder of its existence.

We will keep our eyes peeled for true A31XX buttons for you, if we ever get back into the Aladdins Cave - we havent managed it for over 6 months now and are beginning to take it personally! dont quite know what we have done?

anyways, all the best
paul



Post# 297989 , Reply# 120   8/19/2008 at 17:51 (5,721 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        
Powerhouse,

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No sigh Gary of the buttons we are trying to locate, bloody annoying especially after a weekend gathering lots of obsolete parts for other machines too.

Hows the Connie going?

I have a 612 awaiting restoration - you just cant beat a really heavy upright when it comes to cleaning carpets so I cant wait to get my beast up and running - should hopefully relieve the Turbomaster for a while when I need to really give the carpets a good going over.

Motor and chassis is fine, it just needs a new power cord and a few minor cosmetic bits doing to it to make it better,

catch you soon

Rob & Paul



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